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Was there linkage between the withholding of U.S. military aid and the U.S. demand for a Ukrainian state investigation of the Bidens?

“Was there a quid pro quo?”

This question has bedeviled this city for months now. “The answer is yes,” said U.S. Ambassador to the EU Gordon Sondland in sworn testimony on Wednesday.

Sondland added that President Donald Trump, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney, national security adviser John Bolton and Vice President Mike Pence were all wired in to what was up:

“They knew what we were doing and why. … Everyone was in the loop. It was no secret.”

And so where are we headed now?

The House intel and judiciary committees will advance one or more articles of impeachment against Donald Trump to the House floor, where they will be agreed upon in party-line votes and sent to the Senate for trial.
Impeachment appears as inevitable as anything in politics today.

Some are pressing the House, after Sondland, to slow down, cast a wider net, and demand the sworn testimony of Pompeo, Mulvaney, Pence, Bolton and Giuliani. Others are urging the House to strike while the iron is hot, move impeachment swiftly, and get it all done before the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary.

As the goal of the more rabid anti-Trumpers is to impeach, convict and remove the president, and then proceed with civil and criminal charges, this looks to be a fight to the death.

Mulvaney may have shown the White House the way to fight a month ago. Asked whether the withholding of aid to Ukraine until an investigation of the Bidens had been announced was not the definition of a “quid pro quo,” Mulvaney blurted out:

“We do that all the time. … No question about it… That’s why we held up the money. I have news for everybody. Get over it. There’s going to be political influence in foreign policy.” Welcome to the real world.

In return for meeting with President Volodymyr Zelenskiy, Trump had a right to demand that Ukraine initiate an investigation into its most corrupt company, Burisma. Especially since the ne’er-do-well son of Vice President Joe Biden had been given a $50,000-a-month seat on Burisma’s board just days after Joe demanded and got the resignation of the state prosecutor and signed off on a billion-dollar loan guarantee for this third-most corrupt regime on earth.

We read often that allegations of corruption in the smelly deal that put Hunter Biden on Burisma’s board are “unfounded.”

Who did the investigating?

And what are we to make of the crocodile tears of Democrats that Ukrainian soldiers battling secessionists and Russians in the Donbass have died for lack of U.S. weapons held up by Trump?

Is this not manifest hypocrisy?

ORDER IT NOW

Most Ukrainian government officials were not even aware that the military aid for which Congress voted was being held up. And from 2014, when Vladimir Putin’s Russia seized Crimea and backed the secessionists in the Donbass, to 2017, President Barack Obama confined military aid to the Ukrainians to “sending blankets and meals,” as said the late Sen. John McCain.

If Trump imperiled “national security” by withholding for two months this latest tranche of military aid, did not Obama more gravely imperil our national security by denying Ukraine lethal aid for years?

Among the foreign service professionals who testified to Adam Schiff’s intel committee this week, none chose to associate himself with charges of “crimes” or “bribery” having been committed during that controversial phone call of July 25.

Indeed, the weakness of the Democratic case may be found in the endless escalation of the charges. First, Trump was guilty of a quid pro quo, and then an abuse of power, and then throwing fighting Ukrainian allies to the wolves. Next, it was bribery.

But how is it bribery for a president, responsible for seeing that the laws are faithfully executed, to insist that a regime dependent on U.S. aid investigate a conflict of interest and potential corruption when the enriched beneficiary is the son of the vice president of the USA?

Even before his first day in office, President Trump was in the gun sights of the “deep state” and its media auxiliaries.

And the origins of that “Get Trump!” conspiracy inside the “deep state” are now under investigation by the Inspector General of the Justice Department and the U.S. Attorney for Connecticut John Durham.

The issue at hand: Criminal misconduct inside the U.S. government to determine the outcome of an election, and, failing that, to remove a president our government elite cannot abide.

Bottom line: If this country is not to be torn apart for a decade, the decision to retain or remove President Trump should be made by those who put him in the White House and not by rabid partisans like Adam Schiff.

Let the people decide the fate and future of the president of the United States. After all, they were the ones who hired him.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

Copyright 2019 Creators.com.

 
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  1. Jury selection time already Pat?

  2. Rurik says:

    “I said, I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars. I said, you’re not getting the billion. I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a bitch. (Laughter.) He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time.”

    “solid” = willing to end the investigation of Hunter Biden’s corruption vis-a-vis Ukraine.

    Perhaps this is the first time the insanity defense should be made due to the clear insanity of the Democrats running the asylum.

    • Agree: Realist
  3. Let the people decide? What a stupid idea. Something like half of the people are white. White people are evil and will just elect orange man again. Elections can be a good thing. But not if white people or people who live in the middle of nowhere are allowed to participate. It’s just like with free speech. I am totally in favor of free speech. Just not for white people. How dumb do you have to be to want Hitler to have free speech?

  4. Great idea, but the reason the Democrats are desperate to impeach Trump is that they don’t have anyone who can beat him in 2020.

  5. Let the people choose–
    But they’d rather snooze.
    No news is good news
    In commie coup blues.

  6. dfordoom says: • Website

    In return for meeting with President Volodymyr Zelenskiy, Trump had a right to demand that Ukraine initiate an investigation into its most corrupt company, Burisma.

    He certainly had no such right to tell a sovereign nation how to conduct its own internal affairs. Even an absurd fake nation like Ukraine. Ukraine’s corruption problems are Ukraine’s problem. Just because US presidents are accustomed to bullying other nations and interfering in their affairs doesn’t make it right.

    Trump has also attempted to interfere in the politics of that other loyal US vassal state, the United Kingdom.

    Arguing that every other president has displayed the same arrogant disregard for other countries’ sovereignty is no defence.

    Ukraine is a sorry excuse for a nation but that’s largely because it’s a US puppet state. Trump is just another imperialist president. And Buchanan reveals himself as a cheerleader for this sort of imperialism.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  7. anonymous[128] • Disclaimer says:

    “And from 2014, when Vladimir Putin’s Russia seized Crimea …”

    Good boy, have another of Ms. Nuland’s cookies.

    Mr. Buchanan is the Right suspender stretching to hold up Washington’s pants.

    • Replies: @Realist
  8. Erm, what do the US people decide? Nothing! They are the audience in a very bad and tasteless theater, that seems to go on and on.
    Suitcases full of cash, bribery and blackmail decide the political US circus, which also makes the congressional puppets dance if required.

    • Agree: Patriot
  9. How about the real issue: Why is Liddle Adam Schiff pursuing this beyond all reason?

    Answer: he murdered a child while raping him at a hotel (owned by the same guy who owns the Standard Hotel). His neighbour, a witness to the mayhem after the fact, was Anthony Bourdain. The child had been pumped up on Meth and may have ‘stroked’ out.
    Notice how witnesses in pedophilia cases always seem to die?
    Someone, Soros perhaps, ‘bought’ his iniquity.
    When this blows up in Liddle Adam Schiff’s face, Soros won’t be left holding the bag. Neither will Pelosi.
    Liddle Schiff is on his own. Do or Die.
    BTW: when Trump trolls Schiff as ‘Liddle Adam’ it is a reference to his use of children from the ‘Liddle Kidz’ Foundation ( a known pedophile front group).

    These people, like Denis Hastert, always end up in positions of power because they are VERY controllable.
    This paradigm needs to be destroyed.

  10. sarz says:

    Trump had the means, motive and opportunity to murder Epstein. And Trump’s contrasting statements on September 11, 2001 and September 13, 2001, the first arguing, rightly, that bombs had to have been involved, and the second in support of hijackers and kerosene fires bringing down the towers, show that some friend such as Giuliani or Silverstein had got to him in the meantime, and he is an accessory after the fact. I would be fine with the people deciding on his fate, but how to get the facts into the open. Would Pat Buchanan rule out impeachment?

  11. BTW: when Trump trolls Schiff as ‘Liddle Adam’ it is a reference to his use of children from the ‘Liddle Kidz’ Foundation ( a known pedophile front group).

    You mean like lil’ donald drumpf’s lil’ buddies and “Miss” America fans – lil’ jeffrey epstein, lil’ alan dershowitz etc. etc.?

  12. I wouldn’t trust ‘the people’ with anything important. Most people are uninformed & brainwashed lemmings. The founders knew this and they were right.

    • Replies: @Realist
  13. Patriot says:

    For most of recorded history, leaders ignored the will of the goverened, and political/ruler succession was accompanied by violence, murder, and war. Scholars claim that up to a third of Chinese died during some dynasty changes.

    But, Westerners devised a brillant solution: DEMOCRACY! Candidates express their ideas and plans, and then the people choose by voting. In the USA, the Presedent then gets 4 yrs to try his ideas. If the people like the results, then they reelect him. If they don’t like the results, they elect someone else.

    The stupid and evil Democrats have broken this sacred covenent by attempting a coup. Do they really want to return to the Middle Ages when succession was decided by warfare and where the will of the people is ignorred? Should voters ultmately run government or should the deep state run our government and decide our leaders?

    The Democrats and deep state are playing a very dangerous game, which could destroy America. For example, if a Democrat is elected President in 2020, do the Republicans now have the right to attempt a coup — by any means possible?

    Democrat thugs beat up Conseratives. Trump supporters are de-platformed, fired from their jobs or have their businesses boycotted. Should Conseratives respond in kind? Is this really what Democrats want?

    • Agree: SeekerofthePresence
    • Replies: @follyofwar
  14. Realist says:
    @anonymous

    Buchanan has used the statement Russia seized Crimea numerous times.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
    , @Wally
  15. @Patriot

    Republicans will not do that – attempt a coup. They are a beaten bunch who still somewhat believe in the Rule of Law. Plus, even with Trump as POTUS, democrats still control the House, the Media, and the Deep State – with only McConnell’s silent Senate (perhaps) standing in the way.

    If it was their president being impeached by the GOP, the Left would have been rioting in the streets long ago. The shrinking base of white MAGA deplorables may raise a stink if Trump is deposed, but they will quickly be silenced by the police and the courts. Think Charlottesville.

  16. @Realist

    Old Cold War Warriors never die, they just fade away.

    • Agree: Realist
    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  17. nickels says:

    Yeah but then the horribly divided congress might have to explain why it unamiously passed a continued resolution of the patriot act and an anti BDS bill.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  18. Rurik says:
    @nickels

    explain why it unamiously passed a continued resolution of the patriot act and an anti BDS bill.

    because those things are considered ‘good for the Jews’

    ?

  19. Anon[284] • Disclaimer says:

    The Trump impeachment process has moved from a pathetic circus to a burlesque show. Schiff (The Joker)lives in his own parallel fictional universe. The impeachment process has become a joke, a political cynical electoral instrument

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  20. Hmmmm…let the people decide…. That’s what Israel Shamir is saying. Who said it first? Is israel taking a page from Pat or is Pat taking a page from Israel? When we have two columnists saying the same thing on a subject…well, no good can come of it.

  21. @follyofwar

    Yeah, but first, they lose their marbles.

  22. ricpic says:

    So is Pat saying that the Republicans are such squishes that Trump will be convicted in the Senate?

  23. Many in the alt media are now pointing out that Hunter Biden received $80K per month NOT $50K for his sinecure. Will probably rise to a $million a month compensation before done. Think of poor Hunter’s nose. And the fact that American median household income is $62K per YEAR.
    So a Democrat VP can interfere in Ukraine’s policies (not just withholding $1 billion US aid, and firing their AG to protect his cokehead son, but a COUP overthrowing a democratically elected President, that led to Hunter’s non-show job, and also led to re-patriation of Crimea), but a Republican (not really; more an Outsider) President, who DECIDES foreign policy in the Ukraine and everywhere else, cannot interfere in Ukraine policies? What a joke.
    The argument that Ukraine was corrupt before the coup is invalid; their median household income dropped in half after the coup, and the corruption just moved into Americans’ pockets (which makes it OK to our Establishment and MSM). The whole Ukraine American parasitic system should be in jail with Manafort, along with most of Congress, and indeed Trump. But why make this partisan? There’s plenty of corruption to go around. And we can free up the jail space by letting other people’s dopehead sons walk free, for once.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  24. ka says:

    Why is it a quid pro quo?

    America routinely withholds civilian and military aids to foreign governments over corruption , questionable expenditure, not following IMF rules and not participating into American led genocide destruction or sanction or for America escaping from unlawful laws or illegal application of laws .

    It is lawful inquiry to ask why Russiagate was dropped now and not 2 yrs ago when the evidence was clear that there was nothing .
    It is lawful to ask why Biden was not sanctioned by Obama government . Why Nuland was allowed to meddle and choose over the decisions made by the Ukranian? Biden abused power . Why should be allowed to contest election? He with that information should have faxed impeachment back then .

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  25. Stick says:

    Schiff has guaranteed a forty plus state landslide for Trump. The interesting thing is who will the Dems nominate to wear this defeat, the Woke wing or the Boomer wing?

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @Wally
  26. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Stick

    Schiff has guaranteed a forty plus state landslide for Trump.

    I’ll make a firm prediction. This will lead to a massive increase in support for Trump among Trump supporters.

    To most Democrat supporters it will either make no difference or it will make them hate Trump even more.

    So the question is, will it make any difference to the Rust Belt voters who actually elected Trump in 2016? My feeling is that they will judge Trump on whether they think he has done what they wanted him to do – bring back manufacturing industry jobs. Will he pick up any more of these Rust Belt voters than last time? Probably not. Will he lose a few of them? Probably, but that will be purely because they feel he hasn’t delivered on economic issues.

    Will all these scandals or supposed scandals or manufactured scandals alienate those Republicans who always hated Trump? Or will it make them more inclined to support him? Could go either way. Either way it’s unlikely to make a significant difference.

    Will the Ukraine thing have any significant effect on Biden’s chances? Probably not.

    People mostly vote on bread-and-butter issues. They don’t care if politicians are corrupt because they assume all politicians are corrupt.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  27. Wally says:
    @Realist

    That would be the Crimea that voted overwhelmingly to be part of Russia.

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Floda
  28. Wally says:
    @Stick

    There will certainly be massive voter fraud by the left in 2020.
    Even more than there was by them in 2016, which was substantial.

    Still, recall the overwhelming geographic support for Trump in 2016.

    Of the ca. 3100 US countries Trump won ca. 2700, Hillary won ca. 400.

  29. Realist says:
    @Wally

    That would be the Crimea that voted overwhelmingly to be part of Russia.

    That’s the one.

  30. Floda says:
    @Wally

    You mean, RE-JOIN Russia, which in 1954 under Stalin’s immediate successor Khrushchev made Ukraine a gift of Crimea. Crimeans voted of 95% in favor of this re-union, no doubt helped by the fact Russian pensions and salaries are approximately DOUBLE those of Ukraine. Putin is a clever fellow indeed.

    • Replies: @Wally
  31. So the Democrats are calling for an investigation into Trump for calling for an investigation into the behavior of some Democrats. So when the Democrats do it, it’s in the interest of Truth, Justice and the American Way, whereas when Trump does it is for selfish gain.

    And Trump’s investigation is despicable because its intent is to influence the 2020 election. But the Democrat’s investigation of Trump is clearly not motivated by this end.

    The brighter the light you bathe yourself in, the darker the shadow you cast.

    (For Jung, our Shadow is that self-serving part of ourself which we are not willing to look at because it would call into question our high opinion of our motives and actions.)

  32. Wally says:
    @Floda

    IOW, people wanted back the pensions & salaries that Ukraine had drastically, unfairly cut & imposed upon taking over the Crimea.

    Putin did the right thing in restoring what was right.

  33. “Let the People Decide Trump’s Fate”

    How about just letting the Constitution function?

    Impeachment is part of the Constitution.

    The process is not being abused here.

    The fact is, there has always been a political dimension to impeachment.

    After all, the jury, the US Senate, is a political body with each juror responsible pretty much only to constituents for his or her vote.

    • Replies: @Ivegotrythm
  34. @Anon

    I have never seen anyone whose eyes pop out that far. It make him look insane, even demon possessed.

  35. @ka

    ALL foreign policy involves a certain amount of quid pro quo, and the democrats know it. Washington never gives something away without expecting something in return.

  36. @dfordoom

    But I hope that Trump’s MAGA base doesn’t stick with him if he greenlights a war against Iran, no matter how he might try to justify it. He fired Bolton for nearly leading this country to war, but the threat remains ever present. I hope that Trump knows he is toast if he starts a holocaust of the Iranian people. But, if things turn sour for Trump on the impeachment front, he could always do like Clinton did and Wag the Dog. The current crisis vs Iran could have been avoided if Trump hadn’t done Netanyahu’s bidding and torn up the Iran agreement.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  37. dfordoom says: • Website
    @follyofwar

    The current crisis vs Iran could have been avoided if Trump hadn’t done Netanyahu’s bidding and torn up the Iran agreement.

    I agree.

  38. @JOHN CHUCKMAN

    That elected officials are responsible to their constituents is an interesting idea. Where did you hear about it? How can I find out more? Do you think it will work in Britain? How does it work in America?

  39. @dfordoom

    ‘He certainly had no such right to tell a sovereign nation how to conduct its own internal affairs…’

    You need to distinguish between conduct that you disapprove of and conduct that’s actually illegal.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  40. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Colin Wright

    ‘He certainly had no such right to tell a sovereign nation how to conduct its own internal affairs…’

    You need to distinguish between conduct that you disapprove of and conduct that’s actually illegal.

    There’s conduct that is not technically illegal but that is still quite clearly immoral. There’s also behaviour that is clearly improper and an abuse of power but is not technically illegal. Trump’s behaviour in this case would seem to fall into both those categories.

    The idea that politicians can do anything they like as long as they don’t technically breach the law is what has gotten us into the mess we’re in now.

    Of course it goes without saying that all American presidents have been guilty of equally egregious misconduct. The idea that things can be justified by saying that “everybody does it” is another thing that has gotten us into the mess we’re in now.

  41. @Michael888

    Many in the alt media are now pointing out that Hunter Biden received $80K per month NOT $50K for his sinecure. Will probably rise to a $million a month compensation before done. Think of poor Hunter’s nose. And the fact that American median household income is $62K per YEAR.

    $80K per month is pretty much a million dollars a year, which is small change for a gas company, but what exactly is the going rate for having someone with the same surname as the vice-president of the US on the letterhead.? How valuable is this when negotiating for drilling rights, etc. with governments like Kazakhstan.

    Burisma is a company registered in Cyprus, but operates mainly in Ukraine, though also in some other countries. One of the predecessor companies that Burisma owned a chunk of stock was called Sunrise Energy Resources, a Delaware Corporation, which could be where the Biden connection originally came in. Sunrise acquired some Ukrainian companies that had gas drilling rights, and eventually Sunrise ceased to exist and its assets became part of Burisma.

    The principal owner of Burisma is Mykola Zlochevski, whose daughter Karina Zlochevska also served on the board along with Biden’s son, so it seems like Zlochevski like to mentor young people and give them well paid internships to learn the gas business while sitting on the board. I would imagine this made his board pretty compliant with his wishes.

    The whole business of multinational gas and oil drilling is pretty susceptible to corruption and is all is about who you know. God knows how you would ever sort out this cosy mess.

  42. freddy says:

    hes a zionist president..his buddies will help him out…..hes a god in isarel,named a town after him and put his face on a coin….like them hes chosen

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