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Having embraced “Medicare-for-all,” free college tuition and a Green New Deal that would mandate an early end of all oil, gas and coal-fired power plants, the Democratic Party’s lurch to the left rolls on.

Presidential candidates Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren both called last week for race-based reparations for slavery.

“Centuries of slavery, Jim Crow, legal discrimination and segregation, and discrimination that exist today have led to a systemic wealth gap between black and white Americans,” Harris told The New York Times. “I’m serious about taking an approach that would change policies and structures and make real investments in black communities.”

Echoed Sen. Warren: “We must confront the dark history of slavery and government-sanctioned discrimination in this country.” This history has crippled “the ability of black families to build wealth in America for generations.”

That black Americans are handicapped by their history in this country, and cannot accumulate wealth as easily, and require compensatory reparations for slavery and segregation, is more than a controversial assertion.

Are the Democrats going to say this in their national platform in 2020? And how much will be the rest of America be forced to pay, and for how long?

Warren says Native Americans, too, must be “part of the conversation.” Apparently, they suffer from a similar handicap and need the same reparations.

How far and fast has the Democratic Party lunged leftward? In 2016, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders all rejected reparations.

Have Warren and Harris thought this through?

The questions that instantly arise are: Who would qualify as a beneficiary of reparations, and who would pay the immense transfer sums involved?

In 1860, there were 4 million slaves in 15 states and D.C. There are 45 to 50 million African-Americans in the USA today.

Would all black Americans, even the middle class and affluent, be entitled to reparations? How would the government go about proving that folks living here today had ancestors in slavery before 1865?

Do we, as Warren did to prove her Native American ancestry, conduct a DNA test? Do we consult Ancestry.com for every applicant for reparations?

The last 50 years have seen many marriages between blacks and whites. Would the children of such marriages qualify for reparations?

Barack Obama, whose mother was a white teenager and father was a Kenyan, would not qualify. But would wife Michelle and daughters Sasha and Malia?

Harris’s mother was from India, her father from Jamaica, where the British abolished slavery in the mid-1830s. But if the father had ancestors who were enslaved in Jamaica, would the senator qualify, or do reparations go only to the descendants of slaves within the USA?

While a higher percentage of African-Americans than whites are poor, there are more white poor than black poor in the USA. Does not endemic poverty produce the same negative consequence regardless of race?

What is the justice in excluding poor whites, or poor Asians and Hispanics, whose ancestors were not here in the USA when slavery existed before 1865?

From 1845 to 1849, the Irish fled a potato famine that persisted under the indifferent rule of the same British who introduced slavery into what became the United States.

As for the great migration of Eastern and Southern Europeans — Poles, Italians, Jews, Slavs, Slovaks — slavery was gone before they arrived. They had nothing to do with instituting Jim Crow. Why should they pay reparations?

Asians and Hispanics were a tiny fraction of the U.S. population as late as 1960, when segregation was being outlawed everywhere, but they are more than 75 million Americans today.

Should they be made to pay for sins their ancestors did not commit?

Warren took a DNA test to prove she was partly American Indian, as she put down on various legal forms. Would her less than 1 percent of Indian DNA be sufficient to provide her with reparations for America’s Indian wars?

If slavery and segregation explain the disparity in wealth between black and white in the U.S., what explains the equally wide disparity in wealth between Hispanics and Asians?

Politically, the party of slavery, secession and segregation was the party of Jefferson, Jackson, Clay, Calhoun, Wilson and FDR, who put a Klansman on the Supreme Court — the Democratic Party. It was the Republican Party that was formed to contain and end slavery, and did.

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One need not be a cynic to suspect Warren’s motivation. Her claim to be an American Indian angered Native Americans, and she would like to mollify them, and ingratiate herself with African-Americans, who constitute more than 60 percent of all Democratic voters in the crucial South Carolina Primary.

By pushing for compensatory reparations, Warren and Harris may be helping themselves, but they are further splitting their party along the lines of ethnicity and race and elevating an issue certain to divide their country more than it already is.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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  1. Wally says:

    Blacks have already received “reparations” to the tune of trillions of dollars in an endless variety of welfare handouts.

    Those who were never slaves living off those who never had slaves is what we already have.

    • Replies: @Martin Crisostomo
  2. “I’m serious about taking an approach that would change policies and structures and make real investments in black communities.”

    And when that doesn’t work, then what? When does it end?

    • Replies: @Hail
  3. Sometimes, I feel pity on folks like Mr. Buchanan.
    They are running against time and it’s too late.
    Demographics have changed and it will NEVER BE THE SAME. NEVER EVER.
    Republicans are the one who supported 1986 Amnesty, opposed 1996 immigration reduction by Bill Clinton, almost gave up border controls in the 80s and and the 90s.

    Whites will be attacked by the left and you can’t do anything about it. Reparations can be a harsh reality that Whites will be facing.
    Whites have lost the “Demographics Battle” and are set to lose the Big Democratic War.
    It would be a combination of South Africa and Brazil because it would take some time for Whites to reach 10 percent of the population.
    Many Whites will be wiped out because of Childless and many more miscegenate.
    Now , I am going to say something very important,
    After Trump loses in 2020
    DO YOU THINK DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS AND PRESIDENT WILL HAVE ANY SORT OF BORDER CONTROL? NO.
    MASS AMNESTY WILL BE PASSED AND IMMIGRATION MIGHT WELL BE DOUBLED AND WHITES WOULD BE ABOUT 25 TO 30 PERCENT OF THE POPULATION BY LATE 2050s.
    I AM PRETTY SURE IN A FEW YEARS ,WHITE PEOPLE HAVING BABIES WILL BE CRITICIZED FOR PROMOTING WHITE SUPREMACY.
    JUST GIVE ALL THIS A THOUGHT.

  4. swamped says:

    By pushing for compensatory reparations, Warren and Harris may be helping themselves”…to almost certain defeat – should either somehow swipe the nomination – at the hands of the president. Trump will make mincemeat of them both as he will make it impossible for them to recast themselves after the primaries which will then make it impossible for them to be elected.So if they’re helping themselves, it must be in some other way.What they’re really doing is piling the pressure on crazy Bernie, hoping for an early TKO of their leading rival so they can go on to duke it out between themselves to see who will be Trump’s punching bag on the big stage.That’s when it really gets interesting.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  5. KenH says:

    The USA has paid it’s debt to blacks many times over in the form of affirmative action, welfare, medicaid, grade inflation in high school and college and other race set asides, the music industry and allowing them to dominate professional sports like the NBA and NFL. Not to mention the trend in abolishing standards to benefit undeserving and ungrateful negro malcontents.

    This wouldn’t be cause to worry except that the Republicans and conservatism, inc. are a party of mewling cowards who want to be liked by the media and do anything their donors tell them to. And since Trump has become Jeb Bush since November 2016 it remains to be seen if he’ll strongly oppose this but I’m not hopeful given his recent initiatives to promote global homosexuality.

    At the end of the day we’ll probably get a conservative/Republican alternative to reparations.

    This nation still hasn’t paid it’s debt to white indentured servants or all the whites who’ve had their lives turned upside down (or taken from them) and seen their schools and neighborhoods destroyed and jobs disappear as a result of post 1960 racial policies favoring blacks at white expense.

  6. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @swamped

    How can something of so little consequence be interesting?

  7. DFH says:

    We must never forget the horror of redlining

  8. Stick says:

    The calls for Reparations tells us how completely bereft of ideas the Dems are. Identity Politics isn’t bringing the blessings they thought it would. So now we are treated to Gun Control, Climate Control, and Transfer Payments for race. Somehow I don’t think these are winning issues. It will be fun once Whites decide they have an Identity and defend it. Doubt the Dems will like the result.

  9. Pat yourself on the back Mr. Buchanan. Your prediction from your outstanding book “Suicide of a Superpower” is coming true. Trump cannot and will not stop demographic destiny. If talk of reparations hastens the collapse of the dying evil empire, then bring it on. As WB Yeats once wrote: “Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold.”

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  10. “As for the great migration of Eastern and Southern Europeans — Poles, Italians, Jews, Slavs, Slovaks — slavery was gone before they arrived. They had nothing to do with instituting Jim Crow. Why should they pay reparations?”

    I went through every census from 1860 to 2010 and tallied the number of immigrants. I applied a single exponential growth factor equally to each decade’s cohort (this was not meant to be an exact calculation, so I used simplifying assumptions). I jiggled it around until the outcome matched today’s population.

    I performed the same calculations on the growth of blacks in America.

    Assuming that white immigrants bred only with white immigrants (a simplification), the number of white Americans in 2010 who derived from immigrants and those who descended from whites native to the United States prior to 1860 was the same. In other words, half of all white Americans are descended from citizens who were not citizens of the United States in 1860, the outbreak of the Civil War.

    The rate of growth of the black population in America exceeds that of the white population which includes not only those who were here prior to 1860 but also includes the total descended from all the immigrants who arrived here post 1860!

    Blacks are not the victim of genocide, as so many dishonest black Democrats claim. On the contrary, demographically, they have prospered in America. Shed no tears for the black race. The incontestable fact that they are outbreeding whites shows that, just as when they were slaves in the south, they are well fed, housed, clothed and their health generally well taken care of.

    We owe them nothing beyond the basic protections enshrined in the Constitution.

  11. Didnt see this one coming! LOL

    Its not ‘the left’

    Its ‘the blacks’

    ‘The left’ is merely responding to a market of votes created by the presence of ‘the blacks’ in the democratic system.

  12. @KenH

    Good comment, but you might want to rethink the part where you claim that “allowing (blacks) to dominate in professional sports like the NBA and NFL” has something to do with affirmative action. Indeed, that is the one area of life based purely on talent. I’m sure those sports would love to see more white players, but they are not, on average, as athletically gifted as blacks. As they say – white men can’t jump.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  13. SafeNow says:
    @A RATIONAL THINKER

    “you can’t do anything about it”

    Agreed. It’s irretrievable now. Senator Flake, confronted in the elevator during the Kavanaugh hearing, merely looked down at his shoes. A perfect metaphor for passively allowing the country to unravel during the last four decades; and a gesture of acknowledgement that it’s over; nothing to do but look at your shoes. If Pat Buchanan had been president, California drivers would not now be stuck in “mattress in lane” traffic jams. Another metaphor from me, stuck in California, where it’s happening first, signing off for now.

    • Replies: @Vagabond
  14. “they are further splitting their party along the lines of ethnicity and race and elevating an issue certain to divide their country more than it already is.”

    Yes.

    So why interrupt them? I can work on my golf swing while they carry my ethnonationalist water.

    • Replies: @mr meener
  15. Vagabond says:
    @SafeNow

    Flake is a traitor and a prime member of the group which attempted the coup against the imbecile in the White House. Using him as example as not doing the right thing for America isn’t a good option.

    By traitor I mean shekel cocotte/

  16. We Thought They Were White, about the Jewish role in the transatlantic slave trade, is on the Internet Archive, here.
    This blog highlights some of the book’s themes.
    ● The South American slave trade is discussed in a JTA article, ‘How culpable were Dutch Jews in the slave trade?’

    If anyone should pay reparations, it’s…

  17. Rurik says:

    Asians and Hispanics … …are more than 75 million Americans today.

    Should they be made to pay for sins their ancestors did not commit?

    Hell no!

    They should be on the receiving end.

    Even England is advancing with ‘social justice’ in this regard..

    https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/police-positive-discrimination-boost-diversity/

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6735465/Graduate-25-turned-police-isnt-disabled-gay-black.html

    Reparations are like Affirmative Action, it isn’t so much about past guilt, but current guilt.

    Are Blacks and Hispanics at economic parity with Whites? Do they share arrest or incarceration rates?

    If no, then that is prima facia proof! of racism and discrimination in action!

    There are some truths that we all have to keep in mind.

    Were Asians responsible for African Slavery? Did Hispanics try to genocide the Jews during WWII?

    Or, were all the world’s people, including Amerindians, and Indians from India, and Pakistanis, and Africans and all the world’s people — ALL victims of white racism and colonialism and on-going racism in lily white nations like Iceland and New Zealand, where you’d be hard pressed to find even one Jussie Smollett!

    This is about finally, at long last, putting it to the racist White race. It’s about an overdue comeuppance that has nothing to do with your ancestors, and everything to do with your endemic, reactionary, congenital and intractable racism.

    In your own racist souls, right now!

    Do you want your daughter to have a black baby?

    Now you understand what I’m talking about.

    Do you encourage your son to examine certain notions about gender that are imposed by the Patriarchy? Do you use your influence as a parent to let your five year old son be curious about his true sexuality? Or do you impose your own bigoted notions of gender and misogyny on your own children?!

    The Patriarchy has been oppressing minorities and women and gays and Jews since going back to Rome and further, to Greece, when most people in those White nations were slaves!

    Now is the time of the Great Reckoning, when Jewish supremacists and their Blacks and Browns and women and gays and transgenders and Mexicans.. and all the world’s oppressed people are saying Enough! Never Again! will we allow you racists to enslave us and put us in ovens and keep us on plantations or in the kitchen!

    Never Again are the world’s good and victimized people of color, going to allow White, straight, gun-owning, Christian-type, book-reading, law-abiding redneck, David Duke, KKK, Neo-Nazi racists to oppress and hold down the people of color, and the Jews and the homos and women!

    Reparations are just part of it. There’s also going to be a great social awakening, when MAGA-wearing racist school boys are not just stared down by numinous Tribal Elders, but beaten down with Antifa truncheons! As they should be!!! As they must be!!!

    The time has come America (and Europe and homophobic Russia!)

    Muslims and homos and feminists and Jewish supremacists and Blacks and Browns and Yellows are finally coming to get theirs.

    You’re either going to be part of the solution…

    or part of the problem..

    • Disagree: the grand wazoo
  18. Priss Factor [AKA "Asagirian"] says: • Website

    Best argument for abortion.

  19. Priss Factor [AKA "Asagirian"] says: • Website
    @A RATIONAL THINKER

    Whites should end the GOP, all become Democrats, and follow Liberal Jewish ideology.

    Liberal Jews say PRIVILEGE IS BAD. Then whites should ally with non-whites as fellow goyim who are abused, manipulated, and exploited by Jewish super-privilege. And whites should side with poor and helpless Palestinians against rich and powerful Zionists.

    Jews better not complain since they claim to be ‘liberal’ and for the underdog. Then, Jews should cheer whites siding with underdog non-whites against powerful Jews, the most elitist, well-connected, tribal, and privileged group in the world.

    Whites cannot get their nation back, but they can get some sweet revenge. If Jews complain, whites should just say, “We are following YOUR rulebook for siding with the underdog against the overdog.” Surely, Palestinians are underdogs compared to Zionists. And gentiles, white and non-white, are far less privileged than Jews.

    The Power crushes everyone.

    https://dailycaller.com/2019/02/26/omar-israel-palestine-twitter/

  20. The History we will never know…JEWS were all the main SLAVE merchants globally. The first jews that came to America were slave traders,,the first synagogue was built with slavery profits. Jews were behind the lucrative commerce during the Civil War, allegedly Jews killed Lincoln and blocked Reconstruction. Blacks became the jewish Ace Card, long ago jews knew that they will remain a minority compare to white Christians..they needed a “proxy” populatiosn to carry out their zio agenda of political. economic financial domination and their social agenda to decapitate white power. The jews came up with the NACCP which was originally ALL jewish NYork lawyers, that erased all chances of Black Nationalists leaders to run Afroamerican institutions like jewsish were the main prosecutors against Marcus Garvey. They used blacks to push for Affirmative Action and this resulted in many more JEWS often unqualify to be admitted to elite academic universities which allowed them to stablisha strangle hold on them. More JEWS were admitted after Affirmative action while very few blacks benefited. The people behind Black reparatiosn are JEWISH bankers, lawyers, the ADL, AIPAC…trilliosn that will go to Israel. Ironiclly JEWISH eugenicists, open bordeers politicians, predatorybankers, Hollywood had destroyed the BLACK family their social, economic, academic, LABOR, and its MORAL foundations…JEWS profit while blacks suffered

  21. @Wally

    JEWS profited the most from SLAVERY…so JEWISH Bankers MUST pay the reparations…this is like the HOLOCAUST perpetual taxes in Europe…where 2% of your PAY check goes to Holocaust taxes…

    • Replies: @Tony
  22. Hail says: • Website
    @The Alarmist

    File under:

    Democracy Doesn’t Work, why.

  23. How colossally short-sighted and out of touch would a person have to be to believe that the forced transfer of wealth from one race to another, openly and intentionally marketed and implemented as such, could possibly have anything but a horrific outcome? How can two people (Harris and Warren) who passed a bar exam be so utterly STUPID?? I get the lust for power and all, but if they’re willing to publicly announce this, let alone actually consider doing it, what in the name of fuck would make them hesitate to launch a half-dozen nukes?

  24. David says:
    @KenH

    A while ago, I did a little internet search to find the total spending on policing, criminal courts, and incarceration in the US. Then I estimated our Black National Product (BNP): what all American blacks earn in total.

    I don’t remember the numbers, but I remember that if I assumed 40% of the cost of policing and criminal justice could be reasonably apportioned to policing and punishing blacks, the entire BNP isn’t enough to cover it.

    So even if we set aside all the hand outs, and the harm blacks cause to the lives of whites through their criminal behavior, blacks entire contribution to national income can’t cover the burden of policing themselves and punishing their crimes.

    Hard to imagine what prosperity and accomplishment America might have attained without the contribution of blacks’ distinct talent.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  25. Renoman says:

    Don’t give an inch and put a scare into them every chance you get. It’s a simple equation, more for them less for us, take no prisoners this is war, if you don’t think so join the other team because you’ve already lost.

  26. mr meener says:
    @A RATIONAL THINKER

    we will end up exactly like south afreaka where it is legal to kill whites and take their land. GOP including trump lied about white genocide for 50 years. Pat was the only guy that would have stopped it. it will go down in history that the most heavily armed people mostly white were genocided without firing a shot. never before in history did a superior race build the best society ever only to hand it over to inferior nonwhite and have to pay for it. it makes the mass suicide at jonestown look like a garden party

  27. mr meener says:
    @Mark P Miller

    typical selfish coward “american” they coulda sure used you at the Alamo

  28. RouterAl says:
    @Rurik

    So it was white guys fault that Africans could not even invent the wheel and cement, in fact they never invented anything never knew that.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  29. It’s fine to talk about reparations, but who’s going to pay them? Certainly not the corporations: Banks, or Insurance companies which benefited most from slavery, no it will be the average White man. Yes, they’ll lay that burden on the back of the common tax payer while ignoring the centuries of accumulated wealth that can be traced back to the slave trade profits of certain families and multi-national companies. Whose going to defend us? For if the real culprits are exposed we will be labeled as anti-Semites for doing so, and the wandering Who will bring all their shenanigans into play. Get ready for civil disobedience, because we, the average white citizen, did not benefit from slavery, not one iota, and should not be expected to pay. Let the effected black families who can prove their lineage to sue and take the real guilty parties to civil courts. Waive all statues of limitation, and allow the suits to gather and prosper, or not.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  30. @Rurik

    Excellent parodical rant, Rurik! Great ending too – I may have to use that.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  31. Rurik says:
    @RouterAl

    So it was white guys fault that Africans could not even invent the wheel

    No, but it’s White guys fault if he doesn’t want his daughter to have black babies.

    Or too homophobic to tell his son to question his gender, and explore alternative sexualities while he’s in kindergarten. (waiting for boys to grow up is too late. The Patriarchy is nothing if not insidious). It imposes gender and sexual identity on young boys when they least suspect it, like when a pretty girl walks by and they notice something ineffably charming. By then it’s too late! You have to teach your sons and daughters to reject their imposed gender while they’re still very young.

    Just as y0u have to teach your White children that they belong to a vile and racist heritage. And owe all the world’s POC a debt they can never repay. But they can try!

    Instill in your children a visceral hatred for themselves. Make them as self-loathing as you can, and urge them to reflexively genuflect and abase themselves to all people of color at every opportunity.

    Especially Jewish supremacists and Holocaust survivors. Do you remember the Holocaust?! That’s when the whitest people who ever lived, (Nazis), tried to genocide the most innocent and divine and inoffensive people off the planet for all time, because they were innocent, and because they simply wanted to practice their humble religion in peace. But NO! Instead they were put into ovens! And White people made soap out of them! And did evil experiments on them, and sewed their feet to their arms and their hands to their ankles! What kind of sick, twisted monsters White people are!

    So make sure your children all understand how vile and contemptible and guilty they all are.

    As POC make it possible for evil White people to make amends, by paying reparations and having their babies, and especially if you can convince your son to give them favors, like the greatest hero of all time today, Captain Sweden! Then and only then will there be harmony in the world.

    • Replies: @tyrone
  32. What is the justice in excluding poor whites, or poor Asians and Hispanics, whose ancestors were not here in the USA when slavery existed before 1865?

    Seriously, what is the justice, Pat? What IS the justice in holding anyone who’s never captured, shipped, sold, or owned a slave in his life responsible for shit that happened 1 1/2 centuries ago?!

    Are we going by the Old Testament now, with that punishing the next 5 generations business (I forget which book, sorry)? I didn’t know people were that hard-core fire-and-brimstone religious in America, and I am pretty sure the US Constitution doesn’t allow for any of this type of crap. Besides, it’s been 6 generations or so, even if we do use that Old Testament policy. (Besides, it was God doing that, not some dicked-up Federal Government.). I don’t care if your great-great-great Grand-Pappy owned the biggest plantation in Mississippi with 1200 slaves, that doesn’t make YOU guilty and responsible for any of it.

    What the hell is wrong with people as erudite as Pat Buchanan who won’t state this simple principle?

  33. Rurik says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Excellent parodical rant,

    Thanks Achmed!

    But perhaps I was a little too oblique with my wry

  34. Rich says:

    If anyone is owed reparations, it’s the descendants of the Union soldiers who freed blacks. All blacks should willingly pay a percentage of their income to the descendants of these folks for eternity, because without these brave men, they would still be picking cotton for room and board. Remember, it wasn’t a slave revolt that freed them, it was a Pale Army dressed in blue.

    • Replies: @By-tor
    , @captflee
  35. Anon[324] • Disclaimer says:

    “It’s fine to talk about reparations, but who’s going to pay them?”

    Bigger question: what happens when they get their reparations and nothing changes in terms of their success rate in society? Answer: more reparations because it obviously can’t be their fault according to modern Leftist orthodoxy. This is more likely to devolve into something akin to a universal basic income. Over time, it will grow and spread to other groups and the economy will eventually crash – the US ended as a superpower. Don’t say it couldn’t happen. The US is filled with a lot of dumb people and they get dumber all the time. The prime example is Venezuela. Once prosperous, they nationalized their oil industry after Chavez was swept into power by hordes of incompetent voters, and they’ve been poor ever since. That could be America’s future, too.

    “If anyone is owed reparations, it’s the descendants of the Union soldiers who freed blacks.”

    The descendants of those Union soldiers should pay the rest of us for all the damage they unleashed.

  36. anon[789] • Disclaimer says:

    “Blacks have already received “reparations” to the tune of trillions of dollars in an endless variety of welfare handouts.”

    They also destroyed our inner cities, probably depressing the GDP by trillions over the last 50 years. On top of that, they pay for virtually nothing in society – whites pay the overwhelming majority of all taxes. They are the beneficiaries of affirmative action – they get jobs, professional school admissions, and handouts they don’t deserve; we discriminate against our own kind to help these ungrateful people. They’ve destroyed our movie industry by imposing ridiculous racial quotas on everything. Did you see the Oscar nominees this year? What an embarrassment, a stupid superhero movie for Best Picture. Their crime has cost us hundreds of billions, both in terms of direct medical and police costs and lowered property values (and the costs associated with having to flee to better neighborhoods). They’ve trashed our public schools; whites spend billions on private school due to their abuse. They receive handouts from my people for everything from food to help on their electricity and phone bills. Enough.

    White men were just over 25% of the population in 2003 but represent over 80% of the casualties in Afghanistan. We are the best book writers, the best directors, the best scientists and inventors – the best of everything this country has – we are over 90% of electrical line workers, the majority of firefighters … and everything else these people benefit from. We own these people NOTHING. They owe us.

  37. Hail says: • Website

    What about counter-proposing that Blacks pay reparations to Whites for their crime rates and the property value declines they caused in city after city. and the ethnic cleansing of Whites out of much of urban America in the mid-late 20th century?

    Unlike slavery, all the above is is very much in living memory and caused a real hit to quality of life. Probably a quantifiable economic hit, as well.

  38. Tom Leher. Against the Identiy Politics party line:

    Oh, the white folks hate the black folks,
    And the black folks hate the white folks.
    To hate all but the right folks
    Is an old established rule.

    But during national brotherhood week, national brotherhood week,
    Lena Horne and sheriff Clarke are dancing cheek to cheek.
    It’s fun to eulogize
    The people you despise,
    As long as you don’t let ’em in your school.

    Oh, the poor folks hate the rich folks,
    And the rich folks hate the poor folks.
    All of my folks hate all of your folks,
    It’s American as apple pie.

    N

    New Yorkers love the Puerto Ricans ’cause it’s very chic.

    Step up and shake the hand
    Of someone you can’t stand.
    You can tolerate him if you try.

    Oh, the Protestants hate the Catholics,
    And the Catholics hate the Protestants,
    And the Hindus hate the muslems,
    And everybody hates the Jews.

    But during national brotherhood week, national brotherhood week,
    It’s national everyone-smile-at-one-another-hood week.
    Be nice to people who
    Are inferior to you.
    It’s only for a week, so have no fear.
    Be grateful that it doesn’t last all year!

  39. anon[108] • Disclaimer says:

    Let’s do the debits and credits:

    The reparations I — a first-generation American, and my family, owe to Blacks should be counterbalanced by the several hundred thousand dollars I and my family have paid in property taxes alone over the past 60+ years, taxes that support schools that Black children attend.

    Do we have a deal?

    If the taxes my family has paid exceeds the amount we’re supposed to pay in reparations, where do we collect the refund?

  40. Baxter says:

    I have said this before and i will say it again, liberal progressive minority majority America is a lost cause. America is not a country and it hasn’t been in a long time. It is a bunch of different nationalities and races and ethnicities and religions and cultures and sub cultures and lifestyles and alternative lifestyles and classes and underclasses (permenant underclasses it appears) and different sexual orientations and genders.
    What is holding all of this together? Anyone?
    A very rich society can mask a lot of problems. A poor one, not so much. As America sinks into the ranks of the upper third world we are going to be seeing a very different liberal progressive minority majority America.

  41. Tony says:
    @Martin Crisostomo

    STFU with your bs already.

    • Replies: @Pat Kittle
  42. Anon[161] • Disclaimer says:

    Reparations are a short time horizon harassment. While I agree that the issue deserves maximum attention and resistance, implemented or not they are the equivalent of a distraction for what they are likely planning.

    For a glimpse, look south to Mexico. Which has gotten immensely worse over the past ten years. How did that occur? How is it that a nation that borders the USA has gotten so bad that you cannot safely drive through it without a significant risk of being kidnapped and killed? There has to be purposeful policy involved in that decline.

    Over the next 200 years, they are planning on turning this nation into Mexico North. At a certain point in time, these neo-communist aggressors will purge the police forces of White men. That is inevitable. When that occurs, but probably slightly before, we are going to begin to see cartels operating with impunity in the USA on the level that they do in Mexico.

    That is the future. State facilitated ongoing terrorism of the United States at the hands of Mexican cartels. At that point, they will be working with other international mafias who have large groups already embedded in the US (Nigerians, etc) and will also be openly running sections of the US. Mark my words. Its not going to happen overnight, but think about what 1819 looked like in the USA. The time period between then and now is the amount of time that they will take to burn the USA down to its studs. They will not need it all.

  43. The only fair reparations, is reparations in kind. White people should slave for POCs for the next 200 years. Chains, whips, rapes, the works.

    http://heretical.com/miscella/rcnoa.html

  44. By-tor says:
    @Rich

    If anyone is owed reparations, it is the People of the American South whose property was stolen from them at gunpoint by the invading northern corporate vandals, murderers, negroes and rapists masquerading as an ‘army’. American southerners should have sued those radicalized northern bastards after the US military occupation ended in 1877.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  45. Culloden says:

    From 1845 to 1849, the Irish fled a potato famine that persisted under the indifferent rule of the same British who introduced slavery into what became the United States.

    […]

    Why should they pay reparations?

    Should they be made to pay for sins their ancestors did not commit?”

    I agree. I live in Québec. One of my ancestors was Irish. He flew just before the famine. He settled here in the Vallée du Richelieu. He and his family and descendants were kept in absolute poverty by the Anglo-US corporations. During the 1837 rebellion of Patriots, they lost everything, the Brits set fire at random, they killed arbitrarily and hanged people to kill the rebellion.

    My other ancestors were from Scotland (a poor girl speaking in gaelic) and Jersey (a deserter who fled Europe ruined by the Napoleonic wars). They settled in Saguenay on the lands stolen by Bagotville CFB used to bomb and destroy Libya. They were kept in absolute poverty, had to rent lands to Price, were paid in Price tokens, and had a Price store only.

    The descendants worked in Anglo-US shops (Singer, Crane, Dominion Textile, ….). They were used as cannon fodder by the Brits during WWII.

    Today, things are somewhat bettter, however about 75% of our revenue goes, through extortion, ie, taxation for zero service, to corporations owned by Anglo-US banks.

    So regarding immigrants in Québec: politicians and state-owned CBC repeat ad nauseam that we, descendants of slaves, are racists, and that we should pay for immigrants. Why? Why immigrants from Peru, from Morocco, Tunisia, West Africa? To help Canadian bankers establish business contacts with Europe and North Africa to rob poor countries with IMF and other fraudulous currencies?

    Life is very hard this winter with 3,5 metres of snow and -37C nights of polar colds. Immigrants like Black people or Latinos are usually nice people, very nice people! That’s not the point! However they often can’t adapt to the hard climate and certainly not work as efficiently as we, ”RACISTS descendants of slaves”, can.

    We work for Anglo-US corporations, as our slave ancestors did, the salaries are not high, they’d never been high, and we are kept in low-grade positions to keep our salaries low. Unions are prohibited, and shops close as soon as they can be sold to Latin America or China.

    Thanks Mr Buchanan for all you good articles.

    America (USA) is always great with sites like UNZ, Consortium, AMCONMag, AHTribune, compared to Québec trash false msm like CBC or Gesca.

  46. anon[297] • Disclaimer says:

    “The only fair reparations, is reparations in kind. White people should slave for POCs for the next 200 years. Chains, whips, rapes, the works.”

    STFU. POCs can get the hell out of the first world paradise we built (and they sponge off of) and stop using all the things we invented, like medicine and airtravel. And they can take their SJW cuck sympathizes with them. If I ran the army, I’d round you losers up and dump you all in Somalia permanently. Just 10,000 of you losers deported would set a nice example for the rest. BTW, you speak like my people haven’t experienced massive crime, including rape and robbery, from these groups. Like you said, reparations in kind. Send our B2s to Africa and level their cities like they leveled our once beautiful and crime-free urban centers; use the army core of engineers to destroy their public transportation; use the CDC to spread incurable STDs everywhere; use the marines to force integration of our people into all their stuff.

  47. A lot of white folk will vote for this. So much for supremacy.

    • Disagree: TTSSYF
  48. How did the Left veer so far so fast?
    Caught in the maelstrom of godless self,
    Bursting seams, the ship has lost her mast;
    No repair but the barnacled shelf.

  49. TTSSYF says:
    @follyofwar

    Another excellent essay that foretold where we now are is Lawrence Auster’s The Path to National Suicide.

  50. TTSSYF says:
    @the grand wazoo

    It’s not “fine” to talk about reparations. This needs to be squashed immediately and in no uncertain terms. Don’t even grant anyone pushing it the dignity of a discussion.

  51. TTSSYF says:
    @By-tor

    The South had a right to secede, and only about 6% of Southerners even owned slaves. This is utter nonsense and the result of this country having it too good for too long (even though, when you look at our national debt, we are living in a state of denial about having it good — we’re living on borrowed time already).

    This may be the last straw for a lot of whites who have been quietly but resentfully accepting what’s been pushed on us for decades. It may be time to start openly supporting Jared Taylor and American Renaissance. Even 30% of our current 64% of the total population could be a formidable block.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  52. nickels says:

    Not sure exactly how anyone is going to repair’ate an average lack of about 20 IQ points, but a little cash never hurt anyone, I guess.

  53. @follyofwar

    “but they are not, on average, as athletically gifted as blacks” in only those sports in which running faster than the other guy is of the essence.

    “As they say – white men can’t jump” except, of course in the sport devoted exclusively to jumping high–high jumping–in which most of the world’s premier players are white.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  54. @David

    Good, provocative stuff. If it’s true, it’s pretty devastating. That they don’t even pay their own way shouldn’t come as too great a surprise considering Africa, Haiti and the like.

  55. @Alfred1860

    I get the lust for power and all, but if they’re willing to publicly announce this, let alone actually consider doing it, what in the name of fuck would make them hesitate to launch a half-dozen nukes?

    You really want an answer to that? Absolutely nothing. They hate you and wish you were dead. And with $22 trillion in bonds we just print up and sell, they think they don’t even need your tax dollars anymore.

  56. @ThreeCranes

    Perhaps blacks are averse to flopping head first, (which is how its been done since the Fosbury Flop, made famous in the ’68 Olympics), and potentially breaking their neck. Plus it doesn’t pay very well. (lol).

  57. @Tony

    Tonysteinwitzberg, the Great White Hasbara Hope

    • Replies: @Tony
  58. Anon[332] • Disclaimer says:

    “I have said this before and i will say it again, liberal progressive minority majority America is a lost cause. America is not a country and it hasn’t been in a long time.”

    True. I hope all the worthless, Aspergery “white nats” on the internet finally get that. Enough with this “we need to stick together” nonsense; it’s either stubborn idiocy born from a loyalty to a system they ironically oppose (you can’t change a system you support unless you are willing to destroy it utterly first), or it’s propaganda carefully inserted by the deep state to keep dissidents under control. “Whites” are too diverse to ever have a strong group identity, or by the time they do, it will be too late and the country will resemble South Africa. You guys aren’t taking anything back. It’s gone. You’re going to have us fighting until we lose everything and end up oppressed.

    We need to start working on an independence movement. That means: forming a political party or co-opting the local republican party, abandoning unproductive street demonstrations until the time when the proper support is in place, winning state elections in red states, using state legislatures and local governments to enact secession trip wires (such as Kamala Harris’s racist reparations plan – racial theft), funding our own media and think tanks, co-opting the police and militaries, using state legislatures to ban government front groups like the SPLC, and reaching out to the Russians, the EU, and the Chinese for financial support post break up; I’m sure the Chinese would be willing to offer financial assistance in exchange for breaking up the Empire and/or basing rights. We need to get on this ASAP. Make no mistake about this, Trump WILL lose in 2020. Anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding himself/herself. The demographics are against it, especially when you consider all the blacks that will vote in the election for this racial theft program. Trump has also done himself no favors by turning himself into Jeb Bush.

    Imagine we had our own country. We’d make all the rules and win every election. We’d be able to ban SJW hate and ensure freedom for our own people. No more wars. No more immigration. High social trust. Culture. Culture that revolves around our people. No more corrupt media. We’d control the narrative. No more corrupt and wasteful government. No more doxxing, no more race controversies like Covington … how is any of that a bad thing? We could enter into an alliance with Russia and China and the EU. We’d be fine. What’s holding you guys back? Ignorance? Laziness? Fear? Dual loyalties? Why be loyal to a country that isn’t loyal to you and racially oppresses you on a daily basis?

    Of course, the common WN response (deflection, really) is to claim “you can’t just make that happen.” Smh. What a bunch of losers. No wonder they lost the culture wars, and now the entire country. Duh. That’s why you get out and make it happen. You embrace a stated and achievable objective, you form groups with the aim of promoting the idea to the public, you enact consequences for dissenters, you win local elections and turn the democratic system against your enemy, you ban the opposition (or threaten to once you are free, which will embolden support), you embolden the masses with manifestos, you propagandize, you offer awards to members, you pass laws defending your people from oppression while leaving the enemy open to oppression themselves, you get the public on your side by presenting a detailed plan of action and proving that you can govern effectively, you pass laws deplatforming Leftist hate, you make their actions illegal, you promote yourselves as an oppressed group … etc.

    Have a problem with any of that? Well, those things are all what your opposition has been doing to you. Say the wrong thing and you get banned from the internet or doxxed (witch sniffing). Hold the wrong opinion and congress denounces you. Cross the government and they ban your financial support. Cross the wrong demographic and suddenly your constitutional freedoms go out the door and you’re found guilty of a hate crime and locked away for decades; meanwhile, the opposition fakes hundreds of blood libel hate hoaxes against you with no punishment. Rosanne Barr was fired for a simple Tweet. Jussie Smollet, on the other hand, still has a job after faking an elaborate blood libel hate hoax aimed at millions.

    There are entire groups like the SPLC dedicated to promoting various lies aimed at your people – keeping you down in the mud, oppressing you. They burn your statues, threaten to destroy Mount Rushmore, seize your guns by force, destroy your creative freedom, and revoke your freedom of speech and of association. They promote sexist lies aimed at you like the wage gap and claim that you have some kind of privilege that you don’t have in order to oppress you and excuse their inadequacies. You’re expected to sign up for their military but aren’t allowed to hold any of the “wrong” views while in service; you represent the overwhelming majority of all the casualties while standards are lowered for members of the democrat coalition who contribute proportionately very little…but you’re still supposed to salute on Veterans Day. Why? What “freedoms” does this government protect of yours that they also aren’t trying to steal away from you?

    Why is anyone loyal to that? You’re not Making America Great Again because America was never really great to begin with. You just didn’t see it or want to admit it. You had jobs and comfort, so it didn’t matter. But things are coming to a head now. Soon, all Southern states may have governors like Stacey Abrams, a bigot who burns your flags and threatens to sick the military on people to steal their guns and blow up their monuments. Again, why are you loyal to that? Huh? Name me one thing this evil country has given you that you couldn’t have gotten better if you had been born in South Korea or Japan, or increasingly even China or Russia. This country gives nothing but takes everything. Now, they literally want to steal your paycheck and hand it to democrats. Ask Kamala Harris. She’s all for it.

    Why the the loyalty? I don’t understand. Can someone please shed some light on this for me, because I truly don’t understand. Is it apathy? Creature comforts rotting the brain? Low IQ? Brainwashing? Deep state propaganda? (Some WN website owners who refuse to address this topic realistically have a deal with the government, I would suspect. That’s how they keep out of jail. They steer the people in approved directions. In fact, I heavily suspect one in particular is a trap for getting people to publicly doxx themselves by attending stupid “flash rallies”.)

  59. While I agree with the sentiment expressed here by some that if anything the groids owe us reparations, I must nonetheless point out that reparations 100% conditioned and contingent upon the recipients being deported to africa (best case scenario) or to an all-negro nation somewhere on the American continent (not as good, but I’ll take it) would be the greatest deal struck by any government in the entirety of human history.

  60. ricpic says:

    Why do whites vote Democrat in the face of the party’s blatant anti-white agenda?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  61. @A RATIONAL THINKER

    Rational thinkers haven’t used all-caps since the Byzantines invented minuscules 14 centuries ago.

  62. @ricpic

    Why do whites vote Democrat in the face of the party’s blatant anti-white agenda?

    For the same reason bootleggers supported the 18th Amendment.

  63. @Alfred1860

    How colossally short-sighted and out of touch would a person have to be to believe that the forced transfer of wealth from one race to another, openly and intentionally marketed and implemented as such…

    Africans never had any legitimate business in North America. This forced transfer of wealth has been going on for 400 years.

    Some of them had the decency to try to leave. But this self-same Democratic Party had the gall not only to stop them, but to force the disinterested and uninvolved to do so as well.

    The party should pay the reparations.

  64. Tony says:
    @Pat Kittle

    Figured you say something stupid like that.

    • Replies: @Pat Kittle
  65. El Dato says:
    @Rurik

    Reparations are just part of it. There’s also going to be a great social awakening, when MAGA-wearing racist school boys are not just stared down by numinous Tribal Elders, but beaten down with Antifa truncheons! As they should be!!! As they must be!!!

    YT will invent the self-moving extermination camp before that ever happens. It will be like the intro robot from the Robot Carnival. Only more direct.

  66. TTSSYF says:

    No reparations without repatriation!

  67. anarchyst says:
    @TTSSYF

    Jared Taylor and American Renaissance is jew cucked as well. I have been banned from commenting on the American Renaissance website for years now, just for bringing up the “jewish question”. However, I have noticed that there are more responses and mentions of the “jewish question” on American Renaissance presently…

    • Replies: @Pat Kittle
    , @TTSSYF
  68. You guys are really overthinking this. The only justification required for extracting resources from an enemy tribe is the ability to do so. The Left and its coalition of mercantile minorities and urban foot soldiers now believes that between its demographic strength and control of the propaganda organs it now has the power to make whites pay up. As this demographic power grows stronger in the coming years and decades its demands will correspondingly increase and transcend the purely financial.

    Whites are already second class citizens via affirmative action, disparate impact laws, and “hate crime” legislation where so called protected groups consist of non whites and whites are not “protected.” This second class status will become more and more pronounced over time. Eventually, whites will be excluded from positions of authority entirely and from the lucrative job and careers. They’ll be made into serfs and peasants by a thousand government diktats. If they are kept around at all, it will only be to provide a supply of sexual entertainment for the new overlords. If you think that’s not the plan of our Epstein-Island elites then you (or likely your granddaughter) are in for a rude awakening. The guy who said whites will pay for slavery in kind is not wrong.

    • Agree: Rurik
  69. @Tony

    Tonywitzbergstein:

    Never ever even once have I seen a hasbara admit being a hasbara, which is understandable — your hasbara superiors instruct to deny being hasbara.

    And we know there’s a whole poop-load of you hasbara online:

    [ Israel hasbara troll ]:
    — (https://www.bing.com/search?q=%5B+Israel+hasbara+troll+%5D&pc=MOZI&form=MOZSBR ]

    • Replies: @Tony
  70. @anarchyst

    Same thing happened to me at AmRen — plus 100’s of my comments disappeared down the Memory Hole without a trace.

    I did publicly take Jared Taylor to task, acknowledging his right to censor AmRen as he sees fit, but questioning his use of the T. Jefferson quote on the AmRen masthead:

    “There is not a truth existing which I fear, or would wish unknown to the whole world.”

    To Taylor’s credit he at least removed that quote.

    Despite his fealty to (((those who must not be named))), the AmRen website has not escaped (((their wrath))). Maybe that’s why AmRen lately allows more naming of (((those who must not be named))).

    Despite my personal experience at AmRen, I respect Taylor’s unflappable manner of presenting an honest perspective on behalf of huwhite people. He’s a good guy.

  71. TTSSYF says:
    @anarchyst

    Nothing is perfect. Taylor is a brilliant and eloquent advocate for whites, and that’s good enough for me. I see no need at present to overtly push any “Jewish question” and muddy the waters when, right now, we desperately need to coalesce into a unified block who cheerfully but unapologetically promotes the interests and well-being of European whites and European-descended white Americans. I recognize that the majority of Jews seem to be congenital Leftists / Bolsheviks who flow into white gentile countries and agitate and do all they can to destroy the white gentile majority (I’m not sure they can help it), but we can oppose them and others who oppose us on an individual basis, without making blanket statements about their entire racial group or ethnicity. Right now, we need to encourage baby steps by whites who are just beginning to see the light, and we don’t need to alienate such people, who are trying to find the words to join the cause and stand up for themselves when the media, political establishment, acquaintances, friends, and family come down on them like a ton of bricks for being “haters”. Plus, we need to make allowances for non-gentile whites to join us when they are clearly on our side. There are plenty of Jewish people (albeit likely a minority) who see things as we do (David Horowitz, Stephen Miller, David Gelernter, the late Lawrence Auster, just to name a few).

    • Replies: @Pat Kittle
  72. tyrone says:
    @Rurik

    Very funny schtick………. and you can still dial up the bat-shit crazy just a little……just for kicks and grins.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  73. @TTSSYF

    Very well said.

    However, even a brief partial list should include Ron Unz, as you’d no doubt agree.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
  74. APilgrim says:

    More to the point of reparations,

    Slave owners were defrauded of their property by Mr. Lincoln & other ‘Radical Republicans’.

    The ‘Emancipation Proclamation’ & Amendment XIV were the HEIST mechanisms.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  75. Rurik says:
    @tyrone

    dial up the bat-shit crazy just a little……just for kicks and grins.

    try as I might, I’m still not able to match the ((Globohomo)) for sheer schizoid – hatred of the White, Western “Patriarchy” – lunacy.

    https://www.rt.com/uk/452301-gay-trans-sex-education-children/

  76. APilgrim says:

    Reparations related to eminent-domain abuse, for slave property are large.

    And there is the matter of 150 years of accrued interest. Thanks for bringing the matter of reparations into the headlines again.

    Pay on demand!

  77. anarchyst says:
    @APilgrim

    The “Emancipation Proclamation” applied only to “the states in rebellion”-not to the northern states “not in rebellion”…

    • Replies: @APilgrim
  78. APilgrim says:
    @anarchyst

    Correct, however ALL US Slave-holders, (including Native-Americans & Blacks) were deprived of their property, without compensation by Amendments XIII & XIV.

    Clearly in contravention of constitutional prohibitions to such thefts.

  79. @KenH

    Please give/show me examples of conservative/republican alternatives. I cannot imagine what that would look like.

    • Replies: @KenH
  80. The question of reparations payments for slavery is interesting. I suspect it can never be answered, only haggled over. It has already become quite complicated.

    Repeated IQ testing invariably results in the average IQ of the white Americans coming in around 100. For black Americans, it is around 85. For native black Africans, it is 70 — unless they are black university students in South Africa; then it is about 85 again.

    It would be politically incorrect to surmise that the reasons for these differences could be genetic, so we will banish that thought forever. It injures the prevailing paradigm to imagine such a possibility; the question may not even be raised. Obviously, then, the reasons for this difference must be exclusively environmental, cultural, and even nutritional. I offer as scientific proof of this thesis my own declaration of faith in the matter.

    Therefore, having ruled out the possibility of a genetic component, we can conclude that the net effect of the entire African environmental and cultural experience in America has been beneficial to the intellectual development of the black, despite — or because of — the centuries of slavery and discrimination. There is something about the American experience that has raised the IQ level of blacks here from what it is in Africa. I suggest that this alone considerably reduces the reparations claims of blacks upon whites.

    I have read that black income in the USA would rank them as the 11th wealthiest nation in the world, if American blacks were taken as a nation – not as rich as California, of course, but then California has Julia Roberts, Tom Cruise, etc. Compare this with, say, the income of the nation of Liberia, composed of repatriated American ex-slaves, and you must come to the conclusion that however destructive the American experience was for their forebears, the current descendants of slavery are doing quite well in America — much, much better than had their forebears remained in Africa. Some day, someone may argue on this and various other bases that even allowing blacks to remain in this country after the civil war has been reparation enough. And when all the costs of that noble experiment – the economic, educational, cultural, moral, criminal, public health and political costs – are subtracted from the bill for reparations, indeed we may find we have already made a considerable overpayment and are entitled to a refund.

    But the success of the reparations claim will not be a matter of justice; it will be a matter of force. Ironically, by the time the blacks muster the muscle required to enforce their claim politically or otherwise, the only people left around to pay the bill may be the Hispanics, who won’t like that idea one bit. Doubtless they won’t pay, either, except at over-priced sporting events and showings of Spike Lee films, the viewing of which will by then have become compulsory.

  81. KenH says:
    @Judith Barsella

    Please give/show me examples of conservative/republican alternatives. I cannot imagine what that would look like.

    You’ll have to ask the National Review or the GOP for alternatives. Rather than oppose the left they just offer to give us everything the left wants in smaller doses. The so called Obamacare “repeal” that Republicans were offering after Trump got elected was just a reworked version of it.

    Republicans have pitched several alternatives to Democrat amnesty and mass deportation isn’t included in any of them. They are rank cowards.

  82. Mr. XYZ says:

    If slavery and segregation explain the disparity in wealth between black and white in the U.S., what explains the equally wide disparity in wealth between Hispanics and Asians?

    Selective immigration might have something to do with this. Of course, this raises the question–if selective immigration was possible, why not selective evolution? In other words, why couldn’t some groups have had more eugenic fertility than other groups had at various points in time throughout history?

  83. Tony says:
    @Pat Kittle

    That hasbara nonsense is getting really old. Its guys like you who accused Trump of being a member of the tribe about 10 years ago because he was a rich NYC real estate magnate. That trope makes people on this site look real dumb. Any disagreement and right away its joo, joo, joo. Come off it.

    • Replies: @Pat Kittle
  84. captflee says:
    @Rich

    Really, Rich?

    Even benighted Brasil freed its slaves by 1988 without having to resort to violence, much less slaughtering 700,000 human beings in order to maintain the existing form of central government funding.

    Emancipation via military action has, I believe, been accomplished but twice in this hemisphere; Haiti and the USA. I would be hard pressed to state which case has ultimately been more disastrous in the long term.

  85. captflee says:

    OOPS!

    Make that 1888… having spent a chunk of 1988 comfortably ensconced on the Avenida Atlantica in Rio, I would probably have noticed an emancipation, had it not occurred a century previously.

    That same 1988, in a West African port, I was treated to the edifying spectacle of young African-American crew members joyously debarking in search of their roots, invariably accompanied by an obsequiously voluble local “shore pilot”, very heart warming and inspirational, let me assure you.

    As a dashing young second mate in those days, I stood the four to midnight watch, notable for being slow-ish, allowing time for chart corrections, etc., not without some entertainment, but lacking the drunken mayhem the mid-watch often experienced. The AB down at the accommodation ladder and his local counterpart, a contracted guard from Mali, all seven feet two inches of him, with glistening, jet black, tribal scarred cheeks, pointy filed teeth, and wielding a wooden staff taller than him and about two inches thick would notify me via radio when anyone approached the vessel, and I would break off making rounds or correcting charts and hasten to the gangway, there to ascertain the bona fides of any visitor, or the likelihood of any crew member in his cups to safely find his bunk without assistance.

    So, first night in port, barely past sunset, the first of our intrepid roots explorers returned in a cab, involuntarily divested of cash and clothing. Up the ladder he dashed, naked as a jaybird, but stopped on deck long enough to hug me tightly and exclaim, sotto voce, ” Thank God they dragged my people outta this place! A poor man in America has a roof over his head and food in his belly. Here, you are lucky to have a piece of cardboard and a shitty sidewalk to sleep on. These muthafuckas are crazy!” Having as one of my collateral duties the joyless task of Medical Officer, I told him to come see me after getting cleaned up and dressed, so I might attend to the results of the various blows and kicks he had earlier received.

    Upon his return, he related that his previous impression that there existed a glorious Pan-African unity and consciousness was incorrect, and that in town a rather non-inclusive tribal ethos prevailed, with the Big Man’s tribe at the summit, with Europeans just below, then other tribes, and then somewhere about 2/3rds of the way down to Tuvalu, mixed race blacks. His appeals to black brotherhood, he said, returned only more blows, and the response that “he was not their brother, in fact, not even a member of their tribe”. Alas, he was only the first that evening. Whether this consciousness-lowering exercise benefited the recipients down the road I know not.

    • Replies: @Pat Kittle
  86. @captflee

    Entertaining review of “roots”!
    🙂
    As Muhammad Ali put it:

    “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat!”
    — (https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali ]

  87. @Tony

    Tonyfeldsteinwitzberg:

    You’re right, “hasbara nonsense is getting really old.”

    Israel’s hasbara trolls now infest countless online forums, with the sole intention of derailing discussions of Israeli treachery. It is indeed getting really old.

    For those not yet familiar with Israel’s hired Internet trolls…

    “The Goyim’s Guide to Hasbara Trolls”:
    — ( http://educate-yourself.org/cn/The-Goyim-Guide-to-Hasbara-Trolls-from-Jonathon-Blakeley22nov11.shtml )

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