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In judging the actions of Kyle Rittenhouse, set aside for the moment Wisconsin law under which he is being tried, and consider the natural law, the moral law, the higher law written on the human heart.

In terms of values demonstrated and the deeds done that night that Rittenhouse shot the three men who attacked him, who was on the righteous side?

Consider what Rittenhouse did that night of Aug. 25, 2020, and why.

Watching on television the nightly riots in Kenosha, Wisconsin, a town 20 miles from his home in Antioch, Illinois, that he knew well, Rittenhouse decided to go to Kenosha to protect property that embattled police had been unable to defend during the riots. For protection, he picked up the AR-15 that he kept in Kenosha.

Toward midnight, Rittenhouse was confronted by Joseph Rosenbaum, an ex-con twice his age. Rosenbaum threatened Rittenhouse, backed him into a corner and tried to grab the barrel of his rifle. When a shot rang out nearby, Rittenhouse shot four times within a single second.

When Rosenbaum fell, Rittenhouse took off running, looking for the police to turn himself in, with a mob in hot pursuit.

Out of that mob, an assailant hit him in the head, knocking his hat off. Rittenhouse fell on the street. Another rioter jumped, kicked and stomped his head on the concrete pavement. Another hit him in the head with a skateboard.

Another man confronted him with a loaded pistol and aimed it at Rittenhouse’s face from a few feet away.

Rittenhouse shot and killed Anthony Huber, who had hit him with the skateboard and was grabbing his gun barrel, and wounded the man holding the gun to his face. When Rittenhouse shot both men, he was still on the ground.

While Rittenhouse’s decision to go to Kenosha may have been unwise, it was also unselfish and, indeed, brave. He was risking his life in a riot to defend another man’s property and do his civic duty in a situation of lawlessness. He could have stayed home, as almost everyone in Kenosha did that night, while their city was burned and pillaged.

And what were the motives and goals of Joseph Rosenbaum, the child rapist and ex-con, and Anthony Huber, who wielded the skateboard?

What were they doing in Kenosha, if not helping to sustain a criminal riot to destroy property Rittenhouse had come to defend?

“Why was he there? I have no answer. I ask myself that question every day,” said Rosenbaum’s fiancee about that night.

Again, whatever one thinks of Rittenhouse’s entering a volatile situation, he emerges as one of the good guys. His actions were taken for commendable goals, whereas his assailants’ purposes were to engage in a criminal rampage and riot.

This is why Rittenhouse is being so fiercely defended. People sense that whatever he did, the 17-year-old went to Kenosha to do the right thing.

Those who believe the Black Lives Matter-antifa riots were justified are the ones who want Rittenhouse to spend the rest of his life in prison — for shooting rioters who were threatening and attacking him for interfering with their crimes.

Sensing Rittenhouse has the country behind him, media efforts have been mounted to find a racial element in Rittenhouse’s motivation. President Joe Biden implied that the Kenosha shootings were the work of white supremacists.

The president’s statement was as ignorant as it was malicious.

Rittenhouse is white. All three men he shot are white. His defense attorney and the prosecutor are white. The trial judge is white.

Only Rosenbaum is recorded as having used the N-word that night during what was billed as a BLM protest for racial justice.

Under Wisconsin law, the issue comes down to self-defense.

Did Rittenhouse fire his AR-15 because he believed, with reason, that he might suffer death or serious bodily harm if he did not?

Or did he provoke the rioters into attacking him so he could run up a body count, as the prosecution alleges?

ORDER IT NOW

Shooting the individual who put the loaded pistol in Rittenhouse’s face was surely self-defense. And, according to testimony, Rosenbaum and Huber both sought to grab the barrel of the AR-15 to pull it away, in which case Rittenhouse would have been at their mercy, and possibly dead.

The judge has expanded the range of charges of which Rittenhouse may be convicted, giving the jury a menu of lesser charges if they do not believe that Rittenhouse was guilty of “intentional homicide.”

The prosecution has described Rittenhouse as an “active shooter,” calling to mind the Las Vegas gunman who massacred dozens of people at a music concert by firing from his hotel room.

But a 17-year-old running from a mob and shooting while sitting on the ground and being attacked scarcely fits the description of an “active shooter.”

Kyle Rittenhouse used his rifle to protect someone else’s property and his own life. He was both righteous and in the right. They were in the wrong.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

 
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  1. JimDandy says:

    One of your best, Pat. An instant classic. Thank you.

    • Agree: Derer, Patricus
  2. If Rittenhouse had been murdered by the so-called “antifa” goons as they wanted to do, we wouldn’t even have heard of him. Most of us here know personally of cases where this has been demonstrated. The MSM decide which cases they’ll let the general public hear about, and they’ll supply the ‘context’ too.

    • Agree: Trinity, R.C.
    • Replies: @James Forrestal
  3. What’s with the police—at Starbucks or KFC munching on some chicken?

    • Replies: @white ice
  4. KenH says:

    Looks like Pat grew back his spine because he mostly just pukes out the MSM talking points about current events so I’m surprised he didn’t describe Rittenhouse as the 17yr old who shot three “protesters”. Rittenhouse defended his life against three very violent left wing rioters.

    The judge has expanded the range of charges of which Rittenhouse may be convicted

    I thought the judge removed at least one charge, so if he recently expanded them then shame on him. The judge should have declared a mistrial based on the misconduct of the prosecution. People think he’s being fair and perhaps he is but I also think he’s trying to ensure conviction of Kyle on something to mollify the mob.

    If there was any justice in America Rittenhouse would not have been subjected to this farce of a trial and this malicious and partisan prosecution. Instead all of the left wing rioters would be facing serious prison time or firing squads for their actions.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  5. Petermx says:

    They should erect a statue for Kyle. Unselfish, brave, a tenacious and great fighter.

  6. Trinity says:

    Rittenhouse did more for America in one night than the anti-White (((republicans))) and anti-White (((democrats))) have done in a century.

    All “our” leaders in Washington do is SUCK UP WELFARE AND LIVE LIKE KINGS. Maybe “write” a book or two.

    • Agree: Max Maxwell, Derer
  7. Chris Moore says: • Website

    While Rittenhouse’s decision to go to Kenosha may have been unwise, it was also unselfish and, indeed, brave. He was risking his life in a riot to defend another man’s property and do his civic duty in a situation of lawlessness. He could have stayed home, as almost everyone in Kenosha did that night, while their city was burned and pillaged.

    Rittenhouse is the equivalent of the first responders on 9/11. He doesn’t know that the neolib-neocon regime is playing a deadly game on the American people, jerking them around like rubes on a string for higher geopolitical purposes.

    ((Jewish)) occupied regimes always do this, because ((Jews)) are the Synagogue of Satan. For example, the Synagogue of Satan did 9/11 and blamed it on “Islamofascists.”
    https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9-11/Israel_did_it

    The War on Terror was a disaster, the American rubes are getting restive, so now the Synagogue of Satan is turning against Americans domestically, and using left-wing operatives and useful idiots to do it.

    Had Rittenhouse known the Synagogue of Satan was in the land, would he have rushed to Kenosha? Had they known, would the First Responsders have rushed into landlord ((Larry Silverstein’s)) death traps?

    Until the American people are ready to do something about the Satanists that walk among them, the “heroes” are suckers and rubes, just like the soldiers of WW1 and WW2. But the good news is that the Synagogue of Satan hasn’t gotten away with another big war and another draft to force the rubes into their sacrificial role.

    That means Satan is growing weaker, and it is within our grasp to extinguish his evil once and for all.

    • Thanks: Theophrastus
    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
  8. Rittenhouse was well-intentioned but this is why civilians should not try to do Law enforcement’s job. Its the same with George Zimmerman and the Arbery case. Civilians dont have the training and protections LEO does. Rittenhouse should have told those business owners to arm themselves and protect their own property. Hopefully the jury wont by into the Prosecution’s nonsense and Kyle will be acquitted. But there wont be any ”unrest” like the Liberal Media is hoping. Blacks are not going to protest and riot because a white kid was acquitted of killing two white men.

  9. Trinity says:

    Where is Trump and his “If I had a son he would look like Kyle moment?”

    Oh, that’s right, Trump has no balls and he isn’t half Black like Obama.

  10. @KenH

    And if Kyle had been killed by the mob, would his killers have even been prosecuted? After all, that disgusting prosecutor called them heroes for attempting to put down an “active shooter.” Maybe they would have been given medals.

    • Replies: @Phil4Phil
  11. Phibbs says:

    Sorry, Pat, but not all the thugs who were shot were white. Rosenbaum was a Jew. Jews are not European in origin. If Jews are white, then so are Moroccans, Egyptians and Libyans. Indeed, Jews hate us Caucasians. That’s why they are out to destroy us. Just read Jewish articles in the Jew-owned media if you doubt that.

    • Replies: @Chris Moore
  12. Phibbs says:
    @Max Maxwell

    Max, Liberals would not allow the police of the national guard to put down the rioting. Heroic citizens like Rittenhouse stepped into the liberal-made breach. Don’t you know anything about the background of the case?

  13. Rittenhouse was totally innocent and this can be proved by simply looking honestly at the videos. Lies, obfuscation and filth, is all you get from the establishment news and the democratic party politicians. There is literally nothing they yield too, even the fact that the vaccinated seem to be spreading more of the virus than the unvaccinated. As Jen Psaki would say,” its clearly(muddy) the case.”

    • Agree: republic, Miro23
  14. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Phibbs

    Most contemporary Whites are just dumb rubes that have made themselves cannon fodder for ((Jews)) and their whore politicos.

    True, they are higher IQ on average than Blacks and Browns, but they’re no competition for Zionist eugenics programs.

    The “smartest” Whites have done the math, figured this out, and joined the Synagogue of Satan. Same with the smartest Browns and Blacks.

    This is because they have no integrity or character and are all about power and wealth by any means.

    Judas is multi-cult. You can’t assume Whites are the good guys because they’re White. Are there Whites in the Synagogue of Satan?

    Hebrew Moses had no problem killing Hebrews and Shemites who couldn’t hack higher civilization. Indeed, doing so laid the groundwork for Christian civilization which also put savages to a litmus test and ground them out if they failed.

    How many times was the Synagogue of Satan pogrommed from higher civilization? At least 109.

  15. anon[377] • Disclaimer says:

    @follyofwar #10

    “And if Kyle had been killed by the mob, would his killers have even been prosecuted? After all, that disgusting prosecutor called them heroes for attempting to put down an ‘active shooter.’ Maybe they would have been given medals. ”

    In Chicago they would be let off by the Soros-installed fem-x DA as “mutual combatants.”

  16. Anonymous[916] • Disclaimer says:
    @Max Maxwell

    “Rittenhouse was well-intentioned but this is why civilians should not try to do Law enforcement’s job. Its the same with George Zimmerman and the Arbery case. Civilians dont have the training and protections LEO does.”

    The Zimmerman case was clearly self-defense. Law enforcement is nothing but a government-funded gang.

    “Rittenhouse should have told those business owners to arm themselves and protect their own property. Hopefully the jury wont by into the Prosecution’s nonsense and Kyle will be acquitted. But there wont be any ”unrest” like the Liberal Media is hoping. Blacks are not going to protest and riot because a white kid was acquitted of killing two white men.”

    They will if it happens on a day ending with “y”. Do try to follow along.

  17. Just saw that Rittenhouse was acquitted on all charges. Now we’ll see what happens to the judge and the jurors, and possibly Rittenhouse himself, at the hands of the mob.

    • Replies: @SafeNow
    , @Gugwee
    , @follyofwar
  18. SafeNow says:
    @Rex Little

    Now we’ll see what happens to the judge and the jurors, and possibly Rittenhouse himself,

    Kyle should move to the reddest part of a red state. Otherwise he will constantly face, at a minimum, non-physical but nonetheless very unpleasant confrontations. Cuck me, hate me, troll me, but that’s reality now.

  19. Franz says:

    The woke mobs will try to get him some other way BUT.

    Thanks to the trial and verdict he now has lots of friends and connections. He should be able to relocate to a good place, complete his education and training. Some money from a book and movie deal should be forthcoming.

    And if he chooses to spend some time in the military, he’s already got a killer rep.

    The Rittenhouse acquittal, be hopeful, can be a turning point if we all insist on it. The lawless elements of this nation including the porous borders should be addressed by the elder truth tellers for the sake of our youngest hero. Well done, jury.

    And a well earned congratulations to Pat, who got this right from the start.

  20. Gugwee says:
    @Rex Little

    Probably nothing will happen with the baying mob. Darren Wilson and George Zimmerman are still walking around. The people who make the loudest threats are usually the most cowardly punks. All mouth and no action. Unfortunately, Kyle, the judge and the jurors do have to worry about the juice. Kyle killed at least two of their fellow tribesmen. The juice are the most vengeful people in the world, hands down. And since they are also the most powerful people in the world, you don’t cross them and have no consequences. Kyle will get federal charges and civil suits. His life is most likely ruined, even with the acquittal. The judge will probably lose his job. For the jurors, IRS audits, job losses, and maybe even unsolved suspicious deaths are likely.

    • Replies: @Miro23
    , @Carroll Price
  21. @Rex Little

    That’s about the best news I’ve heard all year. But, watching Fox News, there are quite a few still milling around the courthouse. Hopefully, the fact that it’s cold in Wisconsin may keep the rioters at bay. But there may be rioting in other cities as well. We’ll find out this weekend. I agree that Kyle should quickly move into the country in a red state. And don’t join the military!

  22. @Franz

    You sound delirious.

    And if he chooses to spend some time in the military, he’s already got a killer rep.

    Why would this teenager now want to work as a “killer” for Uncle Sam, under a Commander-In-Chief who smeared him and still cluelessly expresses surprise and disappointment in the acquittal?

    And a well earned congratulations to Pat, who got this right from the start.

    According to the Search engine, this column is the first in which Mr. Buchanan has written “Rittenhouse.”

    • Replies: @Franz
  23. In the future, BLM should disavow kinship with white antifa. Antifa are always psychos and criminal sorts, not worthy of affiliation. They shouldn’t be allowed to march with BLM, nor claim kinship with BLM. Blacks should drive off antifa everywhere antifa turns up. And BLM especially ought not riot over Kyle getting off. White antifa also dealt BLM a “black eye”, as it were, from the trial and antifa claims of kinship with BLM. That should have been Reverend Al’s take and message to his own people.

    Lastly, why should blm tolerate having to share the bounty of looting with the White muhfuckahs of antifa?

  24. Franz says:
    @Greta Handel

    “Killer rep” is an old term indicating “a fellow who has won respect by his deeds.” Ironically it would apply had he been sent to prison also. I would hope he DON’T go into the military for his sake, but it’s his choice.

    Pat was asked on television during the 2020 disturbances about Rittenhouse and said it was self-defense. He may not have written it down. It’s not unusual, Pat was not making a verdict just noting the details were fairly clear thus far. He turned out to be right.

  25. Miro23 says:
    @Trinity

    Where is Trump and his “If I had a son he would look like Kyle moment?”

    Good point. Trump has of habit of being MIA.

  26. Odd to use the term ‘righteous’ just as the Pentagon butchers are STILL doing in referring to the drone attack that blew seven children to bits in Kabul recently. It looks like the Thanatopians have decided to proclaim that their global terrors and driven by some sort of divine mission, to bring peace, the peace of the grave, to humanity.

    • Replies: @GomezAdddams
  27. Miro23 says:
    @Gugwee

    Maybe, but there’s something new in the air. Nothing lasts forever and the ZioGlob have had a good run (at least since the late 1960’s).

    There are some cracks in the dam – this Rittenhouse judgment, Hollywood stars coming out for the Palestinians. When 9/11 breaks open then it’s the Deluge.

    • Replies: @Sir Launcelot Canning
  28. @Miro23

    And the Virginia governor election.

  29. @Chris Moore

    Rittenhouse is the equivalent of the first responders on 9/11.

    Not really. On 9/11, the people in the buildings were the first responders. The government employees showed up as secondary responders doing the jobs they are quite well paid to do. Rittenhouse was not being paid to help his community. He might be considered a hero. The government employees were just doing what they are paid to do.

    • Thanks: schnellandine
  30. @Sir Launcelot Canning

    After the case was decided. He should have supported Rittenhouse from the beginning.

    • Replies: @schnellandine
  31. @Franz

    And if he chooses to spend some time in the military, he’s already got a killer rep.

    Which is not the way to survive the lower ranks in the military. It was said in basic training that the best thing was for the sergeant not to know your name when you graduate. You don’t want to get noticed for good or ill. In that way, the first couple years in the military are like prison. Keep your head down, don’t draw attention. Attention is usually a bad thing.

  32. white ice says:
    @GomezAdddams

    Nah, the police were held back by the Mayor and Governor. This happened on the 3rd! night of destruction. The Gov even turned down help from Trump

    • Replies: @GomezAdddams
  33. @Chris Mallory

    He should have supported Rittenhouse from the beginning.

    Best thing for KR would’ve been to have that lard bucket keep his trap shut into eternity. If not possible, then until after the trial. Trump poisons everything. He poisoned many of his own endeavors by yapping diarrhea-style. The sooner that bastard keels over from too many quarter-pounders, the better for the world.

  34. anon[227] • Disclaimer says:

    This the way resistance grew in Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua and in Iraq that drove the ex-cons out.Some ex-cns are trying to negotiate to stay a little bit longer in Iraq and is hedging their bets in Hong Kong ,Niger and Mali.

  35. @white ice

    Absolute pathetic leadership —Kenosha needs a Mayor not a Mare —or better yet a Nightmare.

  36. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Could this be the call to rebel or simply a cop out –??

  37. More of the same old same old…



    Video Link
    Maybe its a Jewish counter-counter revolution?

  38. Best to test Pat’s argument with some counterfactuals:
    (1) If the BLM protestors largely engaged in peaceful protest and come armed with AR-15 rifles for their protection would their act of carrying military weapons be considered per se provocative? When in civilized culture can we acknowledge that the public display of military weapons is per se provocative and justifies response?
    (2) Why shouldn’t protestors be entitled to destroy retail property as part of protest? It is not residential property no lives are put at risk. Business is insured for the loss. It produces a lasting message to the community that is disadvantaged while the business is closed. Isn’t the “answer” to such destruction for the business either a: close or b: do what protestors want and fix society? Why shouldn’t protestors be allowed to coerce social change by compelling business to close or cooperate? Conservative protestors can go out and do the same thing can’t they?

    The reality is that this episode proves all those Second Amendment people who insist they need the Second Amendment to defend against tyranny are full of hot air. The only man out that night was a seventeen year old boy. The Second Amendment types all otherwise surrendered the city to the match.

  39. @Harry Huntington

    The Second Amendment types all otherwise surrendered the city to the match.

    Wasn’t my city. In my city, that sort of thing doesn’t happen. If it goes down in yours, maybe you’re just getting what you voted for. Sorry, I accept absolutely zero blame for your crap city burning.

  40. @Harry Huntington

    Why shouldn’t protestors be allowed to coerce social change by compelling business to close or cooperate?

    Most major corporations support the BoweLMovement and get looted anyway.

    The Second Amendment types all otherwise surrendered the city to the match.

    Had the #2A townsfolk opened fire on the rioting thugs the MUH PENSION cops would attack the former but not the latter, on orders from the communist pigs occupying the government of a once-American city.

    • Agree: schnellandine
    • Replies: @Harry Huntington
  41. @Max Maxwell

    When Law Enforcement doesn’t do its job (and it rarely does), then who is supposed step in, if not the Kyle Rittenhouses of the world?

    Viva Kyle!

    • Replies: @Harry Huntington
  42. @Harry Huntington

    1. “Largely engaged in peaceful protest”?? What the heck is that supposed to mean? If 10% of a crowd of 1000 angry blacks are burning down the Loop in your crappy city, does the fact that 90% are merely watching and cheering mean the crowd was “largely engaged in peaceful protest”?

    2. “Civilized society”? Where there are angry blacks burning down buildings, it ain’t civilized. I’d bet that the civilized blacks–they do exist although they seem to become rarer all the time–stay off the street when that’s going down.

    3. “Why shouldn’t protestors be entitled to destroy retail property”? That is one of the dumbest things you have ever written, Harry–and I have followed your career of inanity for a long time over at the Washington Times (I’m amazed to find you here). Why shouldn’t the protestors be entitled to burn down your house when you aren’t at home? Or your Lutheran church, that hotbed of Whitey supremacy?

    • Replies: @James Forrestal
  43. @Sick of Orcs

    So your point is what I said. We saw here that 2nd Amendment types have no courage and in practice do not act to maintain social order. The Second Amendment arguments about stepping up to maintain order are a fiction. No one believes them. The reality is 2nd Amendment types are disjoined, disconnected, selfish, never train together, and lack the organization or discipline to be good for anything. A few thuggish teenagers with skateboards are more than their match.

    If 1 seventeen year old with a military style weapon is the face of the 2nd Amendment, the 2nd Amedment serves no point. Every time someone cries, “but my second amendment rights” we should shut them down by asking what they did to stop riots last summer.

  44. @Federico Hohenstaufen

    Kyle is quite instructive because there was only one Kyle. The other 2nd Amendment types stayed home. If the 2nd Amendment types are to be taken at their word, there should have been a man or woman with a gun guarding every business. There was not. Time to recognize that the 2nd Amendment types are blowing a bunch of hot air.

  45. @Harry Huntington

    Another inane comment by a clueless inhabitant of the People’s Republic of Chicago.

    The people you deride as “2d Amendment types” are, unlike your peeps and heroes, law abiding people. They won’t rise up until provoked. When that day comes, however, there will be hell to pay, with no quarter asked or given. The Founders saw this in their crystal balls and nodded approvingly.

    And if you want to stand by spouting your inanities while Mayor Beetlejuice promotes arson and riot and mayhem in your crappy city, that’s your lookout. We “2d Amendment types” are standing by in amazement and amusement.

    Meanwhile, America outside the dystopian Dem cities has become a vast armed camp. Tell your peeps to stay well north of I-80.

    • Replies: @Harry Huntington
  46. @Harry Huntington

    In (more) normal times, I would agree with you Harry, but these aren’t normal times.

    Without naming names, because there are too many to mention, the federal mafia is just as bad or worse–evil–as state and city level commie pigs.

    Yes, Kyle is a hero, but instead of a parade they tried to crucify him. Kyle got two million (illegal and excessive) bail while recently a vile orc shot several people at his high school and was given house arrest.

    Had other Kenoshans fought back like Kyle, even if there was ample video evidence–like in Kyle’s case–it was self-defense every time, (((fake news))) and fedthugs would’ve still dropped the hammer. There would be 2AM soviet-style raids on those Kenoshan’s individual homes the same way Biden’s Personal Thugs raided Project Veritas’ founder James O’Keefe’s home.

    Not enough Whites have reached the point of Nothing Left To Lose, which is what it’s going to take. Any action taken before then will result in more 1/6-style Patriots thrown in gulags.

  47. @Federico Hohenstaufen

    You mean to say that last summers riots burning down city center is not provocation? I guess these folks are waiting for nuclear war. They have demonstrated the 2nd Amendment is worth zero, and we can dump it, Unless 2nd Amendment types step up, we know its true value.

    • Replies: @Federico Hohenstaufen
  48. @Harry Huntington

    Why should any 2d Amendment downstater come to the rescue of Chicago? Let the Negroes burn it down–and let the Lakefront Libs, who voted for that Negro Lez mayor and have the “Black Lives Matter” signs in front of their homes, be the first to die. It don’t make me no nevermind.

    But when the arsonist Negroes come to burn down my town, it’s a different story. Then they and you Chicago Libtards will begin to understand the 2d Amendment.

    Hope to meet you soon.

    • Replies: @Harry Huntington
  49. @Federico Hohenstaufen

    I am sure that by the time “your town” has troubles your view will have changed to “my neighborhood.” And when your neighborhood is threatened, your view will have changed to “my yard.” And when your yard is threatened your view will have changed to “my house.” And I would imagine when your house is threatened, your view will have changed to “my upstairs bedrooms.” And when the upstairs bedrooms are threatened, your view will have changed to “my bedroom.” And when your bedroom is threatened, your view will change to “my closet.” And when finally the closet is threatened, you will simply turn your second amendment gun on yourself and utter, “they will never get me.”

    Time and again second amendment types prove it is all bluster. It is never the right time or the right place.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  50. @Gugwee

    I agree. In less than two years it will be: Kyle who?

  51. @Harry Huntington

    Maybe the 2nd Amendment types are waiting for Harry Huntington to step up and lead them.

    So! where in the hell were you?

  52. @Carroll Price

    If you have followed other of my postings, you would know that I think the 2nd Amendment is anachronistic and only the police and military should have guns. 2nd Amendment types all argue with me and contend they need guns to prevent tyranny and disorder. The problem is that last summer when government appeared not to be in control, the 2nd Amendment types all stayed home. I am left to wonder, if the summer of 2020 did not bring out the 2nd Amendment types, then what would? I am left with my usual proposition, the 2nd Amendment is anachronistic and it is time to ban gun ownership and confiscate all the guns.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  53. Phil4Phil says:
    @follyofwar

    An excellent point, Folly. When Rittenhouse was first charged, I looked at the videos and quickly concluded that the “mob,” as Buchanon calls it, was after KR because he’d shot a man: four rounds from point-blank range. From the lady who swatted him with her purse to the fellow that KR shot in the arm, they seemed to me brave citizens who were taking on a panicked, trigger-happy kid who was fleeing the scene of the crime.

    Still, I thought it was a pity that a well-meaning youngster would spend years behind bars; if some adult had taken away his rifle and handed him a baseball bat for self-defense, the poor kid wouldn’t have ended up in the same predicament.

    I thought no more about the matter till, to my amazement, KR was acquitted of all charges, evidently on the argument of self-defense. If Billy the Kid had shot a member of the posse out to nab him, I thought, could he have argued “self-defense”?

    KR should have been convicted, at least, on the lesser charge of endangering public safety. A flighty, panicky kid like that should never have had a gun in his hands. Whoever gave it to him should have sat in the defense chair alongside him.

    • Troll: schnellandine
  54. @Harry Huntington

    If not already there, England or Australia is where you should be.

  55. @HammerJack

    Speaking of “not hearing” of people…
    CTRL-F “Ziminski” gives zero hits in the OP and the comments — as does “Grosskreutz.”

    MOT or not, Rosenbaum was an obvious crazy who was clearly seen as disposable by more senior arsonists and looters — he reportedly had no prior history of allegiance to antifa, and went more or less directly from the nuthouse to the riot, where he ranted and raved at multiple non-rioters, threatening to kill them, challenging them to shoot him, etc. And Huber wasn’t much better — just look up his criminal record. “Jump Kick Attacker” Maurice Freelander was also a career petty criminal, and was almost entirely left out of the narrative, apparently due to some sort of dispute with the prosecutors over dropping his multiple open charges in return for his testimony.

    Grosskreutz, on the other hand… he confessed to participating in about 100 BLM/ antifa riots. What, it was his full-time job? Apparently he was involved as part of the “People’s Revolution Movement” of Milwaukee — a neo-Bolshevik group with ties to the anti-White terrorist group “BLM,” the Gangster Disciples (criminal street gang), and antifa. Grosskreutz has also has been notably more successful than the other attackers in getting his criminal record wiped clean — and in working with the prosecutors during the Rittenhouse show trial. Looks like a more significant figure than the other three, who seem to have been involved just for the sheer joy of participating in arson attacks, looting, and gang assaults on normal citizens. Though it’s possible they got some cash and/ or drugs in return for their participation in the riot, I suppose.

    But Joshua and Kelly Ziminski clearly played a central role in the rioting, the arson attacks, and the mob assault on Rittenhouse, yet they were hardly mentioned in the trial, and neither appeared as a witness.

    Rittenhouse testified that, shortly before Rosenbaum’s ill-fated attack, he overheard Joshua Ziminski order Rosenbaum to “Get him [Rittenhouse] and kill him.”

    Given Rittenhouse’s legal situation at the time, that’s not necessarily probative, of course. But it’s… interesting. Let’s take a look at what the Ziminskis were doing just before the gang assault begins. The Ziminskis are standing by the vehicle in the background; Rittenhouse appears from the right side, chased into the parking lot by Rosenbaum (bag in right hand). Watch Kelly Ziminski’s left hand:

    See that emphatic gesture? Yeah that looks pretty consistent with Rittenhouse’s story — you can almost hear the “Get him!”

    What happened after the Ziminskis (apparently) told Rosenbaum to go after Rittenhouse? Joshua Ziminski fires a single shot. Why? No, it’s not a “warning shot,” as he claimed — he’s clearly not in any danger. Both of the men are out of effective pistol range, and it doesn’t really look as if the shot is aimed at anything in particular. But Ziminski knows that Rittenhouse is running away from a guy who has repeatedly expressed a desire to kill him… and now he hears shots from behind. He’s gonna slow down, turn, and evaluate the threat. He has to — which gives Rosenbaum the chance to catch up to him.

    And what do the Ziminskis do immediately after Rosenbaum’s attack leads to his own death, while Huber, Grosskreutz, Freeland, and the rest of the mob are chasing after Rittenhouse, howling for blood?

    Joshua puts the gun away, and both of them walk calmly away. And shortly after the riot, his weapon was somehow “lost” or “stolen” or “fell into the lake while fishing” or some similarly-likely story.

    Huh.

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  56. GeneralRipper [AKA "SnidelyWhiplash"] says:
    @Carroll Price

    Carrol, you’re talking to Harry CUNTington.

    Ok.

    I remember this fag from a few years ago. He calls himself Catholic, if I’m not mistaken…lol

    Just like Joe “I think I shit myself” Biden.

  57. Incitatus says:

    “Consider what Rittenhouse did that night of Aug. 25, 2020, and why.”

    Consider what GOP whores will do to further their own empty careers by pimping 18-yr old Rittenhouse for ‘congressional internship’ or even ‘medals of freedom’.

    That’s what poor empty Pat Buchannan is all about. 800 weekly words, regular as a bowel movement, just as meaningful.

  58. @Federico Hohenstaufen

    “Largely engaged in peaceful protest”?? What the heck is that supposed to mean?

    This?

    Or this?

    Or perhaps this “peaceful” treatment of a 71 year old man who committed the terrible “crime” of trying to put out a fire that the regime-backed BLM-antifa terrorists had set:

    Robert Cobb, a member of the Danish Brotherhood Lodge and close friend of Pamela “Sue” Moniz, owner of The Mattress Shop, responded to the scene after watching live video of people setting the area on fire.

    Seconds later Cobb was hit in the head with a plastic bottle filled with concrete, knocking him to the ground. In addition to breaking his jaw, the blow caused lacerations to his head and split his nose.

    Hey, he’s lucky that “peaceful” mob of arsonists, looters, rioters, and other terrorists didn’t just “peacefully” shoot him… right?

    But of course, Mr. “Huntington” didn’t make up the “peaceful riots, arson, and terrorist attacks” canard on his own — he’s just parroting a required element of The Narrative that’s determined at a much higher level. After all, who ya gonna believe, goy? The “news” media narrative — or your lyin’ eyes?

  59. anonymous[379] • Disclaimer says:

    it was also unselfish

    The little loser mofer was there to make some money. Since when did acting the lowly mercenary become “unselfish”?

    If you wish to spin something, then deceit sounds like sweet music within the accursed rightwing echo chamber.

    Sheesh! Pagan godless whitevil scum!

  60. It’s remarkable how many hate-crazed anti-Whites seem to honestly believe that normal Americans are somehow “morally obligated” to allow regime-sponsored mobs to assault and kill them whenever they please — see the comment above.

    Of course — the rioters, looters, and arsonists who invaded and sacked Kenosha had every right to be there, and to attack and destroy whatever and whomever they liked. The only “morality” that a commenter like anon in #60 understands is “Who, whom?” If a rioter, looter, arsonist, or other terrorist is a member of an officially-sanctioned organization like the anti-White terrorist group “BLM,” the semitic supremacist street gang “antifa,” or affiliated organizations like the “Peoples Revolution Movement” [aka the Gangster Disciples] and wants to attack you, your home, or your belongings — the only “acceptable” responses for a White goy are to: 1. Run away, or 2. Accept your fate. It’s somehow “immoral” to interfere with officially-endorsed riots/ acts of terrorism which are aimed at “approved” targets.

    In what passes for the “mind” of a commenter like anon[379] in comment #60, this is apparently a self-evident “moral principle” which requires no further explanation. It’s interesting from a psychopathological standpoint, I suppose — very illustrative of the typical mindset of ignorant, hate-filled anti-Whites.

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