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Among the works that first brought Henry Kissinger to academic acclaim was “A World Restored,” his 1950s book about how the greatest diplomats of Europe met at the Congress of Vienna to restore order to a continent shattered by the Napoleonic Wars.

The balance-of-power peace these men achieved lasted — with the significant exception of the Franco-Prussian War of 1870-1871 — for the full century, from 1815 to 1914.

Writing in The Wall Street Journal Friday, Kissinger declared that it is now an imperative that the world’s leaders, even as they deal with the raging pandemic, begin to make the “transition to the post-coronavirus order.”

“Failure to do so could set the world on fire.”

Yet, the ingredients Kissinger considers essential for establishing that new world order appear, like ventilators, to be in short supply.

“Sustaining public trust,” asserts Kissinger, “is crucial … to international peace and stability.”

But how do we trust again our adversary China, after its criminal cover-up of the menace and magnitude of the virus unleashed in Wuhan?

How do we trust again this regime that was, until recently, blaming the coronavirus on U.S. Army troops visiting Wuhan?

Observing governments thrashing about in the crisis, the phrase that comes to mind is not “public trust” as much as “every nation for itself.”

On Monday, The Wall Street Journal described Europe’s recent behavior thus:

“EU countries unilaterally shut borders and hoarded vital medical gear, leaving people stranded far from home, grocery stores struggling to stock shelves and hospitals desperate to save critically ill patients.

“When Italy and Spain, reeling from some of the world’s most deadly outbreaks, urged their richer and healthier Northern neighbors to help, Dutch politicians brushed off the appeals as new signs of southerners’ mismanagement.”

Last week, the EU’s Court of Justice ruled that Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic broke EU law by refusing to relocate refugees during the migrant crisis in 2015. The three nations offered no apologies.

Last month, Greece used force to stop Syrian refugees from entering its territory. According to Human Rights Watch, Greek troops and armed men at the Greece-Turkey land border sexually assaulted, robbed and stripped asylum seekers and migrants, driving them back into Turkey. The EU has stayed largely silent.

When Donald Trump’s issued his Jan. 31 travel ban on those who had recently been in China, candidate Joe Biden denounced Trump for “hysterical xenophobia and fearmongering.”

Biden now thinks Trump did the right thing.

Even lifetime liberals can put ideology on the shelf when the voice of the people is loud and clear enough.

We must “struggle to heal the wounds to the world economy,” said Kissinger.

Yet, the crisis has revealed that a prominent feature of this global economy is that China controls the production of medicines essential to keeping Americans alive. Do we want to continue that dependency?

Says Kissinger: “The world’s democracies need to defend and sustain their Enlightenment values… (and) safeguard the principles of the liberal world order.”

But did not March 2020 prove the superior wisdom of Alexander Hamilton: “Every nation ought to endeavour to possess within itself all the essentials of national supply.”

Today, borders are everywhere being strengthened as nations compete ferociously for N95 masks and ventilators. Authoritarian rulers are seizing broader powers. The claims of family, faith, tribe, nation and country seem ascendant over all.

“The founding legend of modern government,” writes Kissinger, “is a walled city … strong enough to protect the people from an external enemy. … This pandemic has produced … a revival of the walled city in an age where prosperity depends on global trade and movement of people.”

Kissinger calls the concept of the walled city an “anachronism,” a “legend.”

But is the idea of the nation-state, whose principal duty is the defense of the health, safety and security of the unique people who created it, the “legend”?

Or is the real legend, the myth, the idea of some New World Order of countries traveling and trading happily with one another in a federation of the world?

In this coronavirus crisis, we can see clearly now, no longer as through a glass darkly.

As in most wars, it is to the men of action not the men of words to whom the people turn — to governors, not legislators or members of Congress, who are taking action, as states outbid one another for critical medical equipment.

As for Donald Trump, suddenly, the elites are berating him for being insufficiently dictatorial.

ORDER IT NOW

Trump, they rail, did not move swiftly enough to invoke the Defense Production Act. He failed to use its authority to dictate to U.S. companies what they must produce. He did not shut down the country quickly enough. He failed to issue orders soon enough to governors who delayed shutting down their states.

People are dying, it is now said, because Trump did not immediately become the autocrat that progressives were denouncing him for being during the impeachment hearings two months ago.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

Copyright 2020 Creators.com.

 
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  1. TG says:

    Kissinger? KISSINGER?

    The man who presided over the first war that the Untied States could fairly be said to have lost (we won the war of 1812 in overtime). This despite an overwhelming technical and material superiority over the enemy – and yes, until then, the United States had indeed won wars against “irregular” adversaries.

    The man who pushed and screamed that we simply MUST ship our entire industrial base to communist China – and then got paid a small fortune by Chinese interests (“Kissinger and Associates,” anyone?).

    The best that can be said about Kissinger is that he is a vainglorious failure. The worst is that he is a traitor to his nation for money. Neither possibility suggests that we should give any credence to what he says.

  2. The best thing Kissinger could do is die. Politest too. Where’s Covid-19 when we need it?

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  3. Rosie says:

    But did not March 2020 prove the superior wisdom of Alexander Hamilton: “Every nation ought to endeavour to possess within itself all the essentials of national supply.”

    Go figure. I had no idea Mr. Hamilton was a xenophobic, protectionist, isolationist ultranationalist, etc.

    • LOL: Hibernian
  4. anonymous[100] • Disclaimer says:

    How do we trust again this regime that was, until recently, blaming the coronavirus on U.S. Army troops visiting Wuhan?

    Don’t be so overdramatic. It was one loose cannon among China’s diplomatic corps who tweeted that accusation. The same kind of reprimand should be given to Senator Tom Cotton for his bioweapons lab leak accusation against China.

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @anon
    , @Getaclue
  5. swamped says:

    “In this coronavirus crisis, we can see clearly now, no longer as through a glass darkly”… well, certainly glad that someone can; nobody else seems to be able to see very clearly where or why or how this “crisis” all came about. Sadly, the glass seems to get ever darker as we feel our way along with no real clarity about where we’re headed or who to believe. It would be nice if someone could offer some tangible light at the end of the proverbial tunnel but no one has yet. And Strangelove Kissinger is probably the last person anyone would want to turn to for clarity given his dark past. Unquestionably, we need a post-Kissinger World Order but not one of autocratic nationalism. Unfortunately that’s the way it’s shaping up. It’s a long ways from, “Every nation ought to endeavour to possess within itself all the essentials of national supply” to being “insufficiently dictatorial.” How to have one without the other is the trick – “raging [?] pandemic”, or not.

  6. @TG

    Erm…Kissinger a failure? You don’t live that long, destroy so much of the world, and get called the greatetest statesman ever, by being a failure. What Henry does, he does well, he’s been doing it for a long time, and not only is he getting away with it, he’s celebrated and rewarded for it. He truly is the greatest statesman of our time, the role model of every capitalist democrat. Look at him, his legacy. Understand, that is what your favourite party politician is aspiring to. Now think about the true purpose of our “statesmen”. Do you still vote for them?
    Frankly, this is the only guy on earth scarier than Billy de Patch, chief evangelist for GMOs and head rabbi of the church of universal obligatory vaccinations.

    • LOL: mark green
    • Replies: @TG
    , @henry bowman
  7. Biff says:

    But how do we trust again our adversary China, after its criminal cover-up of the menace and magnitude of the virus unleashed in Wuhan?

    I saw no cover-up other than narrative control for a few days until things got figured out – everyone does this and it is natural..

    Also, origins of the virus is still an unknown…

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  8. anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:

    Well, what do you know! China bashing laced with pronoun propaganda:

    “But how do we trust again our adversary China, after its criminal cover-up of the menace and magnitude of the virus unleashed in Wuhan?

    How do we trust again this regime that was, until recently, blaming the coronavirus on U.S. Army troops visiting Wuhan?”

    Readers need not leave this website to read other articles/comments showing that the provenance of the virus is unresolved. (Note, too, the use of “until recently” to imply that China has withdrawn its questions to Uncle Sam.) And any independent, critical thinker knows the mendacity inherent in all governmental and other institutional authorities in situations like this.

    But Mr. Paleoconservative calls to the Team Red sheep that it’s time to rally ‘round the Republican, boys, and to stay focused on the next Most Important Election Ever.

    • Agree: T. Weed
    • Replies: @Realist
    , @nsa
  9. Growing Sino-US tensions “could set the world on fire”, as Henry Kissinger portentously warns. The pattern of history points to another world war – regardless of the Coronavirus.
    https://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/

    • Replies: @Hrw-500
    , @OilcanFloyd
  10. Realist says:

    Kissinger’s Call for a New World Order

    Pat you forgot the question mark.

    Kissinger’s Call for a New World Order?

    FIFY

  11. Henry Kissinger is the most overrated diplomat and theoretician of the 20th Century. Even his idea that the Congress of Vienna somehow preserved peace from 1815 until 1914 is badly flawed. In addition to the Franco-Prussian War of 1870 that Pat cites, there were wars between Denmark on the one hand, and Austria and Prussia on the other, and a subsequent war between Prussia and Austria. There was the Crimean War between Russia on the one hand, and France and Great Britain on the other. There was the 1905 Russo-Japanese War. And there were constant dust-ups in the Balkans the Greek war for independence. And there was considerable unrest in Europe in 1848. Even as an academic, Henry Kissinger is not fit to carry George Kennan’s pencil case.

    In fairness to Henry Kissinger, he’s now 96 and people that age are likely to recommend what they are comfortable with and not to see the necessity for revising their views.

    And if trust is the criteria by which nations should be judged, the present COVID-19 hysteria should teach anyone that it is the United States/Imperial Washington that is most likely to act in its own interest and disregard the interests of even its putative “allies.” Something like take the log out of your own eye before you seek to remove the mote from your brother’s eye.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
    • Replies: @Meena
  12. Realist says:
    @anonymous

    Well, what do you know! China bashing laced with pronoun propaganda:

    “But how do we trust again our adversary China, after its criminal cover-up of the menace and magnitude of the virus unleashed in Wuhan?

    How do we trust again this regime that was, until recently, blaming the coronavirus on U.S. Army troops visiting Wuhan?”

    Yes, even Buchanan is a Deep State minion…what we don’t know is it purposeful or senility. But this is not the first time Buchanan has shown a fondness for Deep State interests.

    Readers need not leave this website to read other articles/comments showing that the provenance of the virus is unresolved. (Note, too, the use of “until recently” to imply that China has withdrawn its questions to Uncle Sam.) And any independent, critical thinker knows the mendacity inherent in all governmental and other institutional authorities in situations like this.

    The provenance of the virus may never be known.

  13. Realist says:
    @anonymous

    The same kind of reprimand should be given to Senator Tom Cotton for his bioweapons lab leak accusation against China.

    Tom Cotton one of the biggest warmongering assholes we have.

    • Agree: T. Weed
  14. NPleeze says:

    But how do we trust again our adversary China, after its criminal cover-up of the menace and magnitude of the virus unleashed in Wuhan?

    Put down the crack pipe, Pat, there was no cover-up. China was in full communication with WHO starting with the first patient on Dec. 31, and provided the full genetic sequence of the virus by Jan. 12. US CDC officials visited Wuhan on Jan. 8 and by mid Jan. the DoD and other federal agencies were holding classified meetings about quarantines and travel restrictions.

    You’re just scapegoating China for the massive, criminal “incompetence” (malice) of the US government. It has robbed Americans of trillions of dollars to enrich the oligarchs via the “security state” but end of the day has provided no security. Admit the truth, Pat, instead of scape-goating, it’s pathetic.

    How do we trust again this regime that was, until recently, blaming the coronavirus on U.S. Army troops visiting Wuhan?

    How do you know those troops didn’t have “Patient Zero”, hmm, Pat? Oh, you don’t?

    Tell us, Pat, why did CDC shut down Fort Detrick in Aug. 2019? And if you don’t know, how about you just shut the fuck up, hmmm? Your rampant speculation is absolutely unrelated to facts, not that that slows an ideologue with a scape-goating mission down.

    “The world’s democracies need to defend and sustain their Enlightenment values …”

    And by Enlightenment he actually means his Illuminati (Global Dictatorship) values.

    • Agree: T. Weed, follyofwar
    • Replies: @Ozymandias
  15. Why isn’t this vile creature dead yet?

    • Replies: @NPleeze
    , @Bill Jones
  16. NPleeze says:
    @Adam Smith

    Hell doesn’t want him.

    • LOL: Curmudgeon
  17. Jsinton says:

    What Kissinger is really saying is he wants to save the old world order that he was so prominent in crafting. Trump has been a wrecking ball for his project. The virus greatly accelerated the process.

    • Replies: @NPleeze
    , @SBaker
  18. @Adam Smith

    Kissinger or Buchanan?

    • LOL: Adam Smith
  19. NPleeze says:
    @Jsinton

    Trump has been a wrecking ball for his project

    Bahahahahahahaha! TrumpTARD alert.

    • Replies: @Jsinton
  20. anon[357] • Disclaimer says: • Website
    @anonymous

    Don’t be so overdramatic.

    Don’t be so naive.

    The “US troops brought coronavirus to Wuhan” narrative is being pushed very hard by the criminal mainland authorities.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  21. kissinger surely and perhaps pat also yearn for world that is fast disappearing in the rear view mirror of history.

    an american centered world where washington and nyc make all the important decisions for the planet and must be obeyed or else.

    its tough being a god only to discover your subjects no longer pay you much heed let alone obedience and all done without the excess violence of world war.

  22. @ThreeCranes

    And he should take Soros and Adelson with him!

  23. Yee says:

    “How do we trust again this regime that was, until recently, blaming the coronavirus on U.S. Army troops visiting Wuhan?”

    What monsters are the US creating in their military bio-labs all over the world? I wish the author could shed some light…

  24. @Biff

    I remain a big fan of Tucker Carlson, and he always makes some very valid points, yet he has been peddling the same anti-China narrative as Mr. Buchanan, as he nightly reiterates that they are solely responsible for this plague upon humanity. Tucker can make these claims all he wants, but, does he really know, or is his obvious hatred of China clouding his judgment?

    There are those, like Pat and Tucker, who insist on blaming our Chinese “adversary” for the mess we are in today. Yet, did China make us shut down our economy? Or did our incompetent, corrupt political leaders, listening to quacks like 79 year-old Anthony Fauci, do it all themselves?

    • Replies: @Jsinton
    , @John Johnson
    , @Biff
  25. Jsinton says:
    @follyofwar

    There’s no denying the Chinese hid the epidemic, and continue to hide the epidemic, all for political agenda. That’s criminal negligence. We should sue their pants off.

  26. Jsinton says:
    @NPleeze

    False assumption. You must be a real brain.

  27. Ximenes says:
    @TG

    “The man who presided over the first war that the United States could fairly be said to have lost .”

    Nonsense, he, and his boss Nixon, did a masterful job extricating us from a ridiculous war. Ever wonder why we’re still in Afghanistan? We haven’t had that kind of talent since.

  28. Hibernian says:
    @TG

    (we won the war of 1812 in overtime)

    It was a stalemate like Korea would later be. We repelled a British invasion but we didn’t annex Canada.

    • Replies: @TG
    , @Thomasina
  29. @Ximenes

    We’re still in Afghanistan because it borders Iran to its west and Israel wants us there. Israel has the final say in what the US does in the Middle East, and we will be free to leave Afghanistan only after we first get Israel’s permission.

  30. @NPleeze

    “And if you don’t know, how about you just shut the fuck up, hmmm?”

    Truer words were never spoken. I assume that we will never hear from you again.

  31. Trump is a con artist. Erik Striker’s article on international finance and the shilling on the right was way better than this fluff.

  32. @anon

    Don’t be so naive.

    The “US troops brought coronavirus to Wuhan” narrative is being pushed very hard by the criminal mainland authorities.

    Don’t be so naïve.

    Everyone knows it’s the 5-G towers cooking people from the inside out 😉

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  33. @Jsinton

    We should sue their pants off.

    True, the number of underemployed ambulance chasing lawyers in the USA by far outnumbers the PLA and are bound by fewer ethics.

  34. I see that Kissinger is still a GOP hero to people like Pat. Hey, Pat, polish his shoes while you’re down there.

  35. ricpic says:

    Kissinger has all his marbles, or even most of his marbles at 96? Kudos to the sly old fox.

  36. Meena says:
    @Diversity Heretic

    Was it the guilt ? Or was it the real confidence in him ? Why was he elevated and why Roger was demoted? Was it the guilt about holocaust ? Or was it the fear that allowed Kissinger to shine his dark light on the political situation for so long ? He is a psychopath . His footprint on war against Iraq and Iran are deep and enduring .

    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
  37. @Ximenes

    He and his boss Nixon created the monster that is China, which now appears poised to engulf us, out of retarded Congress of Vienna style balance of power games against the Soviet Union that did not look ahead beyond the next election cycle. The clearest textbook case in living memory of selling your soul to Satan in order to drive out Beelzebub.

    Well, for Nixon, at least. He was an intelligent man, who understood how things worked. He knew what evil was afoot in the American Republic he had inherited. In younger days, he even fought it. But then he thought himself powerless to stop it, and so acquiesced to it instead.

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Richard_Nixon
    http://www.fpp.co.uk/History/antisemitism/Nixon_onJews.html

    Kissinger, for his part, was born without a soul, like Antichrist in the movies. As even his sympathetic biographers invariably reveal, he was evil at least as far back into childhood as the paper trail can trace him. It just got far, far worse when the great and the good admitted him to the halls of power.

    By the way, Alexander Solzhenitsyn warned us about all this at the time. If we appeased China in order to stop Vietnam, he told us, we would get something a thousand times worse some decades down the line. Now the historical record has spoken, and as usual, he was right.

    https://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/alexandersolzhenitsynharvard.htm

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  38. Anon[200] • Disclaimer says:

    Trump was not the decisive, capable leader he tried to sell himself as. If he had real brains and balls he would’ve stopped all international flights from landing in the US the day Wuhan went on lockdown. If US citizens stuck abroad aren’t happy, well, too damn bad, they want to play hotshot globalists with all the international travels, they’re on their own. They don’t get to bring the virus back to infect their countrymen.

    The post coronavirus world order is nationalism on steroids. It’s time to tax 90% of income above $500k, or $250k for all jobs on Wall Street to help pay for this fiasco. Wall Street and its love of globalization brought this pandemic upon the world, while destroying our industrial base and causing widespread underemployment of our college grads with their love of H1b coding slaves.

    In addition, tax all international flights by 50%, and impose a 25% tariff on all goods imported from non-OECD countries. Globalists need to pay for what the wrought.

    Kissinger can kiss my ass with his globalism.

    • Replies: @Thomasina
  39. @Jsinton

    “We should sue their pants off.”

    How do you propose that “we” collect damages on that one? WWIII?

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  40. anon[116] • Disclaimer says:

    While Kissinger was maneuvring to take Taiwan’s UN Security Council Seat and get that Country expelled, the U.S.was also secretly bombing Cambodia and Laos.
    Was the Vietnam War a smokescreen to enable the USAF to bomb Chiang Kai Shek’s Republic of China Armies controlling the Golden Triangle on behalf of Communist China?

  41. @follyofwar

    There are those, like Pat and Tucker, who insist on blaming our Chinese “adversary” for the mess we are in today. Yet, did China make us shut down our economy?

    They are primarily to blame. They actually threatened the doctor who was first trying to report it with prison time. The Chinese government wasn’t even allowing doctors to discuss what was happening.

    They were also warned about wild game markets after the last SARS.
    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/3908790/ns/health-infectious_diseases/t/civet-cat-becomes-sars-scapegoat/#.Xo0X1ohKg2w

    If you don’t like the response of Trump or the governors then that is fine but they didn’t cause the problem.

    • Disagree: Biff
  42. This pandemic has produced … a revival of the walled city in an age where prosperity depends on global trade and movement of people

    What a load of crap.

    I can list a dozen African countries that embraced globalist principles and did not become prosperous.

    Pretty amusing that this pandemic isn’t over and yet the globalists are already scrambling to write their articles on how we need to just pretend it never happened.

    Good luck with that.

  43. @Jsinton

    ‘… We should sue their pants off.’

    How were you planning to collect on any award?

  44. MBlanc46 says:
    @TG

    To what extent is the US Kissinger’s nation?

    • Replies: @TG
    , @Diversity Heretic
  45. Biff says:
    @follyofwar

    Yet, did China make us shut down our economy? Or did our incompetent, corrupt political leaders, listening to quacks like 79 year-old Anthony Fauci, do it all themselves?

    It took a bought and paid for congress to create a financial house of cards over a forty year period, and a collective sneeze to send it crashing. China had zero control over any of it. None, Nada, Zip…….

    It’s is bad as Hillary blaming the Russians for her loss..

  46. dfordoom says: • Website
    @follyofwar

    “We should sue their pants off.”

    How do you propose that “we” collect damages on that one? WWIII?

    In the case of rabid right-wingers pushing the anti-China line, yes I think that is what they have in mind. Remember that the best answer to any problem that afflicts the US (even if, or rather especially if, it’s a self-imposed problem) is to bomb and/or invade other countries.

    These people are not sane. They really do think the Chinese are a threat to their precious bodily fluids.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  47. Escher says:

    But did not March 2020 prove the superior wisdom of Alexander Hamilton: “Every nation ought to endeavour to possess within itself all the essentials of national supply.”

    Then the guy on the broadway show must‘ve been his woke stepbrother.

  48. TG says:
    @Hibernian

    Not exactly. But we did Finlandize Canada.

    • Replies: @Oikeamielinen
  49. TG says:
    @paranoid goy

    . Sadly you have a valid point. Still, I think on the essentials we agree.

  50. @dfordoom

    In the case of rabid right-wingers pushing the anti-China line

    Oh give me a break, as if it’s only rabid right-wingers that don’t trust China.

    Virologists around the world wanted more information and China lied while the WHO defended them.

    Here is what the MSM wants you to forget about:

    • Replies: @SBaker
    , @Anon
  51. Anonymous[833] • Disclaimer says:

    The hell is this the warmongering old cold warrior Pat from the 60’s and 70’s spouting Sinophobic slurs like Mao was still in charge over there? Your boss Tricky Dick and Doctor Strangelove went there, made nice and “opened up” the country, making possible the deal of a lifetime: offshoring our middle class jobs in exchange for bargain-priced trinkets. Remember? You’ve been listening to the Democrats rant far too long and loud about their imaginary enemy Putin, Pat. Ragging on Xi will do you no better. Cabin fever from the lockdown making you hysterical, Patrick?

  52. @Meena

    I’m not a student of diplomatic history so I don’t know the details of the circumstances of Henry Kissinger’s rise to power and his continuing presence. It may be simply that he looks and sounds as if he has genuine gravitas and perception morphs into reality. I’m reminded of Adlai Stevenson, the Democratic presidential candidate in 1952 and 1956. He had a great reputation as an intellectual. But one close associate later recalled that Adlai could go months without picking up a book. Kissinger continues to write (I suspect at 96 his staff does most of the actual work) and get published, so he must obviously be saying something profound. Right?

  53. @MBlanc46

    A good point and it’s a feeling that I also have about Zbigniev Brezhinski. They brought European prejudices and points of view to the United States that, however appropriate they might have been for a German Jew and Pole, respectively, were not well suited to a nation on a different continent. It shows that immigrants can do damage even when they are highly educated and articulate.

    Give me Milwaukee-born George Keenan any day over these two!

  54. SBaker says:
    @Jsinton

    True enough. The chicoms are running scared along with the DC establishment and their leftist allies. George Patton used a wrecking ball of tanks to trash the German socialist Wehrmacht. And like Trump, Patton knew the Russians were just as cutthroat. The rats are pissing themselves as the borders go up to stem the flow of 3rd world trash. Their power is slipping away.

  55. SBaker says:
    @John Johnson

    Too many facts get in the way of the Chicom’s deceit. Xi is even called president when he is the current dictator appointed by the little group of the Chicom establishment. Actually, their system is only a different color of rose then the king and his nobles.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  56. Kissinger, the butcher of Cambodia, at 96 still blowing the bugle for the New World Order! Should it surprise anyone ?

  57. Kissinger might be the world’s oldest AND shortest war monger. There ought to be something we could spray him with.

  58. @SBaker

    Actually, their system is only a different color of rose then the king and his nobles.

    No we do not live under a totalitarian government.

    Our doctors are free to get online and discuss medical reports.

    China shut down early online conversations by doctors and fined one for rumor mongering. Look it up yourself if you deny this.

    In fact China plans on locking their internet down even further through their own redesign. Leftists in the West can only dream of that level of information control.

  59. @Anon

    taking out of context. At the early stage no one knew it was human to human while medical research was being conducted.

    I knew it was human to human. There was no other explanation for the spread at that point. You are also ignoring or unaware of what was posted by Ai Fen
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/11/coronavirus-wuhan-doctor-ai-fen-speaks-out-against-authorities

    https://www.axios.com/timeline-the-early-days-of-chinas-coronavirus-outbreak-and-cover-up-ee65211a-afb6-4641-97b8-353718a5faab.html

    China doesn’t allow open research or even basic discussion of the facts and that is a key reason why it spread.

    The WHO pretended China is just another government which is intellectually dishonest.

    Anyone that looked at the evidence could see that it was spreading at that point. Why are we funding the WHO? I’m not a paid employee at the WHO and I did a better job of analyzing the situation.

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  60. Thomasina says:
    @Hibernian

    The U.S. attacked Canada and burned down a fort.

    In retaliation, Canada and the British set off for Washington and burned down the White House and the Capitol Building.

  61. KenH says:

    According to Human Rights Watch, Greek troops and armed men at the Greece-Turkey land border sexually assaulted, robbed and stripped asylum seekers and migrants, driving them back into Turkey.

    Since the vast majority of the would be invaders were Muslim males it looks like they might have gotten their backsides stretched out and learned a little about Brokeback Mountain. But this is how Europe should deal with Muslim and African invaders going forward since this is the only language they seem to understand. And since they neither fear nor respect white Europeans they should be taught some very hard lessons.

  62. Anonymous[130] • Disclaimer says:

    But how do we trust again our adversary China, after its criminal cover-up of the menace and magnitude of the virus unleashed in Wuhan?

    We? Who’s we? Clinton, Soros and Buchanan?

    China is your adversary, gimp.

    • Agree: Ship Track
  63. “But how do we trust again our adversary China, after its criminal cover-up of the menace and magnitude of the virus unleashed in Wuhan?”

    Buchanan, the eternal US jingoeist. He seemed to get a lot of things straight in “the unnecessary war” even if he managed to avoid naming the jew. This is expected behaviour from a jesuit.

    He damns China with no to faint accusations of a “cover up”, the implication being that China deliberately sacrificed her own people with the goal of tricking the US into not reacting fast enough. The accusation is absurd, and even though Buchanon is getting quite senile he still can’t jump out of his entitled yankee shadow.

    Buchanon’s narrative is the China “allowed a local epidemic to escape and covered it up”, and there for is guilty of some kind of Jesuit crime. The truth here is that Zerohedge was banned for covering the outbreak already in January.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  64. @The Alarmist

    Boy, Everyone is really smart. Do you have contact information?

    The reality is, even the “experts” are, at this time, in no position to know what is the cause or source. The virus is real. The dangers of Electromagnetic Radiation are real. There may, or may not be, a multiplying/synergistic effect. If there is one, which multiplies the other, and to what degree?

    The Chinese are withholding information, and so are all other governments. Every official narrative is contains (un)healthy doses of bullshit. My guess is that we will never know the truth, but the majority of governments will eventually agree on a singular official narrative that will be sufficient to shut down the “deniers”.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  65. @John Regan

    In respect of China, Nixon understood that “no official recognition” was meaningless. China still existed, and it was impossible to ignore 1/4 of the earth’s population, and the world’s largest standing army. “Official recognition” would give the US more access to China, in order to spy on them more easily. Normalizing relations did not mean moving all your production to China. After all, it hadn’t moved to the Warsaw Pact, which also had “cheap labour”. That project was handled by his (((financial advisors))).

    As for Solzhenitsyn’s warning, Mao, Liu and Dong operated on an significantly different basis, under the First Constitution, or even Ye under the Second, than Xi does under the Forth Constitution. If there is a common thread, perhaps it is Lenin’s “the capitalists will sell us the rope we will hang them with”. Had it not been for the capitalists meddling in Chinese affairs in the 19th century, I suspect we wouldn’t have seen a Mao.

  66. @John Johnson

    China doesn’t allow open research or even basic discussion of the facts and that is a key reason why it spread.

    No government allows open research, and at the time, no one knew “the facts”. The “facts” said it originated in the Wuhan market. That was disproven. China is still seeking patient zero. Other countries are doing the same, or have already identified patient zero. The US seems uninterested in doing so.
    The “facts” said it was accidentally leaked from the Wuhan Lab. I am acquainted with 5 people who work or worked in a Level 4 Lab at the scientific and technical levels. Unless there were significant breaches to safety protocols – like the ones the CDC reported at Fort Detrick – the chance of it “accidentally” leaking are virtually nil. Even the mainland hating Taiwanese acknowledge that.
    The “facts” ignore the Taiwanese virologist/pharmacologist that noted the US is the only country that has all 5 branches of the Corona virus.
    The “facts” ignore the Italian doctors saying they were treating a strange new pneumonia in late October and early November.
    The “facts” also ignore that those being treated for vaping in the US last July, were presenting with the same symptoms as those in Italy and Wuhan.
    Is the WHO to be trusted? Of course not, they, like Bill Gates, want to vaccinate everyone.
    Perhaps the reason the US military has 25 bio-weapon labs outside the US, is to avoid CDC inspections.
    Right now, China is being offered up as the sacrificial lamb to stop further investigation – nothing to see here, move along – and they aren’t buying it. There is still too much we don’t know. We will never know the truth, because the truth will expose those really responsible, and spoil their plan.

    • Agree: dfordoom
  67. @Ship Track

    He damns China with no to faint accusations of a “cover up”

    Are you not reading this thread? We have already posted links showing a cover up.

    China defenders are really picking the wrong fight here. This is a classic case of totalitarian state trying to lie and control information to the determent of everyone including China.

    • LOL: Ship Track
  68. nsa says:
    @anonymous

    “…..pronoun propaganda….”
    Generic First Person Plural Paddy Piffle: blah blah blah……..we…….blah blah blah………us……….blah blah blah………..our……….blah blah blah………..ourselves…………blah blah blah……….ours………..blah blah blah……….we………blah blah blah………..ad nauseum.

  69. @Curmudgeon

    I was kidding, but there is something to be said about the hazards of non-ionising radiation at the various frequencies used for 5G.

    This guy, a politician, denies it, so it might be true:

    This guy is considered by many to be a professional conspiracy theorist, but just because something is a conspiracy theory doesn’t mean it isn’t conspiracy fact. Note that this pre-dates the COVID-19 scare:

  70. anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:
    @John Johnson

    “We have already posted links showing a cover up.”

    Who are “we”?

  71. Thomasina says:
    @Anon

    “If he had real brains and balls he would’ve stopped all international flights from landing in the US the day Wuhan went on lockdown.”

    Wuhan went into lockdown on January 23rd, right in the middle of Trump being impeached over Ukrainegate, which came right after Russiagate.

    The globalists are now furiously trying to use the virus as a way to bring Trump down. Right off the bat Trump suggested administering hydroxychloroquine, but he was shot down for that. Trump will be proven right in the end.

    The art of winning is not to fight. Just stand back and let the other side put their own balls in a vise. Trump is a master at that.

  72. @TG

    Tut, tut! Finlandization went out of style in the glasnost period three decades ago.
    Proper intellectuals today praise Finland’s progressiveness.

    It might be more accurate to say that Canada is Americanized, or perhaps Canadianized since it is under the heel of a certain, krhm, tribe, just like the USA.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  73. TG says:
    @Ximenes

    “Nonsense, he, and his boss Nixon, did a masterful job extricating us from a ridiculous war. Ever wonder why we’re still in Afghanistan? We haven’t had that kind of talent since.”

    OK I will grant Kissinger some minimal credit that – unlike utter morons like McCain and Hilary Clinton etc. – he didn’t insist that the Vietnam war be waged forever. However. It still took him something like five bleeding years of messing around pretending to be a diplomatic genius and then losing, when a rational person would have just pulled out and declared victory in year one. Leaders like Polk or Sherman could have outright won the the Vietnam war three times over in less time…

    And that still does not forgive Kissinger’s greatest sin: taking money to shill for sending our industrial base to communist China. So I stand by my statement that Kissinger was incompetent/treasonous and whatever he says now should be given no credence.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
    • Replies: @Ximenes
  74. @John Johnson

    “posted links showing a cover up.”

    That’s really funny coming from a yankee.

    I saw no links about the cover up of the US releasing the “Spanish” psyop flu in 1917.
    I saw no links about the cover up of the deaths of 5000 US soldiers in a botch bio-weapon attack on Korea in 1953.
    I saw no links about the cover up of MKUltra LSD attack on an entire generation of Americans.
    I saw no links about the cover up of the AIDS plandemic.

    What personally bothers me because I have personally suffered for years is that I saw no links about the cover up of the release of Lymes disease from Fort Detrich.

    Congressman claims evidence links Lyme disease to US military bioweapons research

    US Congress Orders Pentagon to Reveal If Lyme Disease-Carrying Ticks Were Weaponized

    “Now it seems that members of Congress feel the same way. According to Roll Call an amendment to the 2020 defense authorization bill was included via a voice vote to “conduct a review of whether the Department of Defense experimented with ticks and other insects regarding use as a biological weapon between the years of 1950 and 1975.””

    This latest Lymes cover up started in September 2019. It is a so typical for the US to project its war crimes on its own victims that no one bats an eye any more. It is part an parcel of American Exceptionalism dating back to the start of the “revolution”.

    For the US to accuse any other country of irresponsibility is Talmudic audacity. But we all know who are the slaves and who are the slave owners in that “Judeo-Christian” cesspool.

  75. Anon[650] • Disclaimer says:

    David Rockefeller made ut till 103, with multiple heart surgeries.

    Soros is 89.
    Kissinger is 96.
    Hillary is 72.
    Biden is 79.
    Pelosi is 80.

    David Rockefeller never stopped cheerleading for globohomo. He stayed at it right till the end. I expect the list above to remain in service to their master also, until their fingers lose their grip and they go to recieve their eternal just reward.

  76. Intelligence report warned of coronavirus crisis as early as November

    ” Concerns about what is now known to be the novel coronavirus pandemic were detailed in a November intelligence report by the military’s National Center for Medical Intelligence (NCMI), according to two officials familiar with the document’s contents.

    The report was the result of analysis of wire and computer intercepts, coupled with satellite images. It raised alarms because an out-of-control disease would pose a serious threat to U.S. forces in Asia”

    From that warning in November, the sources described repeated briefings through December for policy-makers and decision-makers across the federal government as well as the National Security Council at the White House. All of that culminated with a detailed explanation of the problem that appeared in the President’s Daily Brief of intelligence matters in early January, the sources said.

    It looks like the National Security Council was aware of the CIA-19 virus months before even Xi knew. Pat Buchanan is blowing hot Bolton style neocon air.

  77. @Ximenes

    Nonsense. Nixon was never Kissinger’s boss. Kissinger stretched the war out as long as he could before allowing Nixon to even pretend to do anything at all about it. Humanity can do without that kind of talent.

  78. @Oikeamielinen

    Canada is Canadianized…what a concept.

  79. NPleeze says:
    @John Johnson

    What links prove a cover-up? Post the best one you got and I’ll demolish it.

    And this aside from the fact, even IF there was a cover-up, the US sure wasn’t fooled by it. And I will post just two links to prove it, though there are more:

    * Intelligence report warned of coronavirus crisis as early as November: “As far back as late November, U.S. intelligence officials were warning that a contagion was sweeping through China’s Wuhan region, changing the patterns of life and business and posing a threat to the population, according to four sources briefed on the secret reporting.” Of course there is no evidence for this, so this is the propaganda part of the report. ““Analysts concluded it could be a cataclysmic event,” one of the sources said of the NCMI’s report. “It was then briefed multiple times to” the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Pentagon’s Joint Staff and the White House. … From that warning in November, the sources described repeated briefings through December for policy-makers and decision-makers across the federal government as well as the National Security Council at the White House. All of that culminated with a detailed explanation of the problem that appeared in the President’s Daily Brief of intelligence matters in early January, the sources said.” In fact, it seems the Pentagon (which operates Fort Detrick, which was shuttered in August 2019 by the CDC for two actual “breaches”) knew much more about the dangers of the virus than China – which – along with the Pentagon taking over the US response to the virus in January and the consistent use of “classified” meetings to discuss that response – indicates that SARS-CoV-2 is in fact a released Fort Detrick virus.
    * White House memos warned in run-up to pandemic of up to 2M deaths, economic devastation: “Navarro delivered the warnings to others at the White House in internal memos in January and February, saying that the United States could see up to 2 million deaths and trillions of dollars in economic damage.

    So no matter what China did, US top officials were well aware of the dangers of this virus.

    The attempt by the DoD/Intel Agencies to blame this so much on China is itself further proof that Fort Detrick is the culprit here. Their arguments are just so idiotic and unsubstantiated.

    • Agree: Ship Track
  80. Henry Kissinger is not a part of the historic American nation or tribe, and should have never been given any authority or voice. His tribe benefits from internationalism often at the expensive of the nation.

    There is no reason that Americans should trust the people running the nation! They (Trump included!) have proven themselves detached, hostile, and traitors to the historic American nation. Everything essential to the functioning of our society, from banking, education, medical care, the military, etc. is used to to bilk us out of money, and to serve the interests of others.

    The goal of people running the nation is obviously to transform and destroy historic America, and to replace the population with foreigners who have no ties or sympathies to the nation or culture. Asking us to trust these snakes is a joke. I wish nothing good for Kissinger and his ilk.

    • Thanks: Rurik
  81. @TG

    The worst is that he is a traitor to his nation for money.

    Kissinger was never a traitor to America, because he could never be an American. The traitors are the people who trusted him and put him in a position to do harm.

    My guess is that his ancestors did no better in his old “homeland.”

  82. @peter mcloughlin

    Maybe we are at the point that bio-warfare is the new way to wage war? It’s cheaper, infrastructures aren’t destroyed, viruses don’t have to be trained or convinced to fight, and you don’t have to convince the public to fight or agree. We could be at war already and not even know it.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  83. @paranoid goy

    Erm…Kissinger a failure? You don’t live that long, destroy so much of the world, and get called the greatetest statesman ever, by being a failure.

    …Are you out to lunch? The “greatest statesman” title has been given by follower traitors, a great statesman does not lose wars, send Manufacturing base of a nation to an outside source, my God, are you are a boomer?

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
    • Replies: @paranoid goy
  84. Ximenes says:
    @TG

    “…when a rational person would have just pulled out and declared victory in year one.”

    Cut and run was a viable strategy. Many people advocated it, and they may have been right. Eugene McCarthy was their standard bearer in the ’68 election– and he lost, decisively. The majority of the electorate did not want to cut and run, they wanted ‘Peace with Honor,’ which is what both Nixon and the Dem nominee, Hubert Humphrey, promised.

    McCarthy, like Bernie Sanders today, chose to be right and lose. Nixon took a position that got him elected and used it to get us out of Vietnam. That kind of pragmatism is what we need today in Afghanistan.

  85. @henry bowman

    Do sarcasm much? Irony? No? Sorry I insulted your sensibilities… I bet your favourite politician is nothing like Henry Kissinger at all. At all.
    Also, I find this virus-jail great practice at first reading people’s words before I knee-jerk my own jerky knee-jerks.

  86. Rurik says:
    @OilcanFloyd

    We could be at war already and not even know it.

    Truer words…

  87. Rurik says:

    Kissinger declared that it is now an imperative that the world’s leaders, even as they deal with the raging pandemic, begin to make the “transition to the post-coronavirus order.”

    “Failure to do so could set the world on fire.”

    I remember when, after 9/11 and so many people began to have questions about what we were all being told

    And the huge, intractable reluctance (refusal) to investigate, until some wives in New Jersey, who had lost husbands, put on so much pressure (along with millions of others) that they had to do something. So when the smirking chimp (Dubya) announced that yes, (OK fine! ‘fuck you’) they were indeed going to have an official ‘investigation’, and it was going to be headed up by none other than Henry Kissinger (!), I knew right then and there that they were all lying.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  88. Miro23 says:
    @Rurik

    And the huge, intractable reluctance (refusal) to investigate, until some wives in New Jersey, who had lost husbands, put on so much pressure (along with millions of others) that they had to do something. So when the smirking chimp (Dubya) announced that yes, (OK fine! ‘fuck you’) they were indeed going to have an official ‘investigation’, and it was going to be headed up by none other than Henry Kissinger (!), I knew right then and there that they were all lying.

    Combine that with Ehud Barak, in real time, almost tripping over himself to set up Osama Bin Laden, and directly calling for the destruction of Iran, Iraq, Libya and North Korea. These world class criminals tricked the US in ME wars, murdered 3000 Americans on 9/11, were responsible for destroying much of the Middle East along with killing more than a million Arabs.

    Yet the sad creeps in US Congress still manage to give this criminal leadership 28 standing ovations in 47 minutes.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  89. Rurik says:
    @Miro23

    Yet the sad creeps in US Congress still manage to give this criminal leadership 28 standing ovations in 47 minutes.

    I recently had a conversation here at UR about the occasional suitability (and even felicity!) of that marvelous invention; the guillotine.

    The French used it for aristocrats who had treated the common Frenchman as their tax slaves, so that they could lavish more opulence and sumptuousness upon themselves, while the common people languished and starved.

    But I doubt even the most strident revolutionary, could not have even conceived of a French aristocracy that would mass-murder French citizens wholesale, as a pretext to get the French commoner to fight wars on behalf of England (their enemy at the time).

    Imagine a Frenchman, so corrupt and perfidious, that he’d sacrifice the lives of the French people on behalf of the enemy of France.

    And yet…

    Tom Cotton wants American young people to be ordered to kill and die on behalf of the murderous scum who perpetrated 9/11.

    It’s a whole new level of black-hearted treachery and craven betrayal, so much so that there aren’t really words. But somehow, I know what Dante was talking about with his Ninth Circle.

  90. If Nuremberg would have been established , Kissinger would be behind bars.
    Never forget his comments about soldiers and his role in Chile 1973 and many other countries.

    Instead he received Nobel-“peace”Prize…. tsss,tssss

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