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Even before seeing the transcript of the July 25 call between President Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, Nancy Pelosi threw the door wide open to the impeachment of Donald Trump by the Democratic House.

Though the transcript did not remotely justify the advanced billing of a “quid pro quo,” Pelosi set in motion a process that is already producing a sea change in the politics of 2020.

The great Beltway battle for the balance of this year, and perhaps next, will be over whether the Democrats can effect a coup against a president many of them have never recognized as legitimate and have sought to bring down since before he took the oath of office.

Pelosi on Tuesday started this rock rolling down the hill.

She has made impeachment, which did not even come up in the last Democratic debate, the issue of 2020. She has foreclosed bipartisan compromise on gun control, the cost of prescription drugs and infrastructure. She has just put her own and her party’s fate and future on the line.

With Pelosi’s assent that she is now open to impeachment, she turned what was becoming a cold case into a blazing issue. If the Democrats march up impeachment hill, fail and fall back, or if they vote impeachment only to see the Senate exonerate the president, that will be the climactic moment of Pelosi’s career. She is betting the future of the House, and her party’s hopes of capturing the presidency, on the belief she and her colleagues can persuade the country to support the indictment of a president for high crimes.

One wonders: Do Democrats blinded by hatred of Trump ever wonder how that 40% of the nation that sees him as the repository of their hopes will react if, rather than beat him at the ballot box, they remove him in this way?

The first casualty of Pelosi’s cause is almost certain to be the front-runner for the party nomination. Joe Biden has already, this past week, fallen behind Sen. Elizabeth Warren in Iowa, New Hampshire and California. The Quinnipiac poll has her taking the lead nationally for the nomination, with Biden dropping into second place for the first time since he announced his candidacy.

By making Ukraine the focus of the impeachment drive in the House, Pelosi has also assured that the questionable conduct of Biden and son Hunter Biden will be front and center for the next four months before Iowa votes.

What did Joe do? By his own admission, indeed his boast, as vice president he ordered then-Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko to either fire the prosecutor who was investigating the company that hired Hunter Biden for $50,000 a month or forgo a $1 billion U.S. loan guarantee that Kiev needed to stay current on its debts.

Biden insists the Ukrainian prosecutor was corrupt, that Hunter had done no wrong, that he himself was unaware of his son’s business ties.

All these assertions have been contradicted or challenged.


There is another question raised by Biden’s ultimatum to Kiev to fire the corrupt prosecutor or forgo the loan guarantee. Why was the U.S. guaranteeing loans to a Kiev regime that had to be threatened by the U.S. with bankruptcy to get it to rid itself of a prosecutor whom all of Europe supposedly knew to be corrupt?

Whatever the truth of the charges, the problem here is that any investigation of potential corruption of Hunter Biden, and of the role of his father, the former vice president, in facilitating it, will be front and center in presidential politics between now and New Hampshire.

This is bad news for the Biden campaign. And the principal beneficiary of Pelosi’s decision that put Joe and Hunter Biden at the center of an impeachment inquiry is, again, Warren.

Warren already appears to have emerged victorious in her battle with Bernie Sanders to become the progressives’ first choice in 2020. And consider how, as she is rising, her remaining opposition is fast fading.

Sen. Kamala Harris has said she is moving her campaign to Iowa for a do-or-die stand in the first battleground state. Sen. Cory Booker has called on donors to raise $1.7 million in 10 days, or he will have to pack it in. As Biden, Sanders, Harris and Booker fade, and “Mayor Pete” Buttigieg hovers at 5 or 6% in national and state polls, Warren steadily emerges as the probable nominee.

One measure of how deeply Biden is in trouble, whether he is beginning to be seen as too risky, given the allegations against him and his son, will be the new endorsements his candidacy receives after this week of charges and countercharges.
If there is a significant falling off, it could be fatal.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

Copyright 2019

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  1. Rational says:


    Thanks, Sir, you are so right.

    This criminal thug “whistleblower” should be arrested for leaking Presidential secrets.

    This means the deep state criminals and gangsters are still hanging around in the white house.

    Where were these whistleblowers when Clinton was raping women in the white house and killing Vince Foster and other men? There is a long list of people who have vanished on

    Where were these whistle blowers when Obama was walking around with a fake birth certificate? Or Hillary was using a private server? Bengazi?

    In any case, Biden is the real criminal in the whole saga. What Trump did, even if there was a quid pro quo, was to get justice, and uphold law and order, and that is his job.

    What Biden and his thug son did was for personal gain, and that is a crime. Both these criminals belong in prison.

  2. Svevlad says:

    If it’s Warren, then it’s a cakewalk – Trump eviscerates her instantly

  3. anon[349] • Disclaimer says:

    Trump is inconvenient for Republicans, who would be pleased to see Democrats do their dirty work.

    Eliminate both Biden and Trump. Romney is salivating.

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
    , @Rich
  4. “WHERE . . . ”

    To be honest they were everywhere

  5. In his phone call with Zelensky, President Trump mentioned two subjects in particular which are Kryptonite to the Democrats: Crowdstrike and “the server,” meaning the DNC server which was never forensically examined by the FBI. Pulling on these two threads may be even more interesting than the stuff about the big-bucks shakedowns of foreign governments by Joe Biden & Son, Inc. Just for starters: what the fcuk is the DNC server doing in Ukraine?

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @Bruce Arney
  6. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:

    “The great Beltway battle for the balance of this year, and perhaps next, …”

    Sure, until the next SCOTUS nomination or whatever next scene is scripted into the puppet show. Another week, another Armageddon.

    Dissident? Pfft. Mr. Paleoconservative’s job as Stagehand Right is to cue Team Red into voting in the next Most Important Election Ever.

    National politics: as meaningless and distracting as sportsball.

    • Replies: @JamesD
    , @JamesD
    , @Bruce Arney
  7. I wonder what would happen if Trump was impeached, removed from office (very unlikely, but possible) and then wins the election in November? Well, what happens besides Democratic and mainstream media (but I repeat myself) heads exploding.

    • Replies: @DL42
  8. The Democrats have completely lost their minds. They are making all out war against Trump and against the white Christian majority.

    They want to take the guns away from white men, while allowing black and Hispanic gangs to keep their guns.

    They want us to stop eating meat and eat bugs instead.

    They want to shut down all industry and destroy our economy.

    I would like to think that many sane Democrats will jump ship due to the insanity…..but the MSM lies so much that people don’t know what to believe.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  9. @Svevlad

    Not so sure about that. Envy is one of the seven deadly sins, and there are an awful lot of people in this country who want to bring down the people they envy. Warren is their candidate with her wanting to put a tax on wealth as well as income.

    • Replies: @JamesD
    , @R.G. Camara
  10. DL42 says:
    @Diversity Heretic

    Well that’s the very reason that Trump will be exonerated in the Senate. They know that if they vote to remove, Trump will likely win the 2020 election by a landslide, and then there’s approximately a 100% chance they’ll be primaried and lose.

    The only possible reason to imagine this would be if a large enough group thought that half a year of president Pence would be enough to get us into war with Iran, which there’s a good chance it would, but I doubt half the Republican senate is willing to commit career suicide to get that.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  11. SafeNow says:

    In an 8-22 to 9-23 Real Clear Politics poll, Warren vs. Trump, the RCP average was +4Warren. Thus, even without this latest Biden problem, Warren found the formula. This event clinches it. She will be the nominee, and will be a problem, with her magical giveaway plans. On the WSJ Report, Paul Gigot aptly characterized her as “slippery.” Maybe that’s a good nickname — Slippery Liz.

    • Replies: @anon
  12. I now think that someone on the Trump team did this leak. It only helps him. The dirt on Biden was public, but ignored by the corporate media. Now they are forced to report it to attack Trump, and it makes Dems look corrupt. Big media spins this, but not true leftists like Jimmy Dore and others with millions of followers.

  13. El Dato says:
    @Buck Ransom

    Nowadays “servers” can be transferred via fiber optic across the world in a heartbeat.

    Maybe the DNC got a cheap hosting contract with a company working out of an abandoned steel mill?

    • Replies: @Buck Ransom
  14. El Dato says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    You still need the help of Democrats swarming the impeachment button.

  15. KenH says:

    She has foreclosed bipartisan compromise on gun control,

    You make it sound so promising and benign but red flag laws would be selectively enforced against politically incorrect white people, so called universal background checks would likely open the door to a universal gun registry and banning AR-15’s and other “assault weapons” is unconstitutional. Trump and the republicans were on the verge of one of the biggest cucks in the GOP’s history which would have unconstitutionally limited the scope of the 2A more than any president and party in history.

    But that’s what I’ve come to expect from a whichever way the wind blows president. Trump’s support of the 2A always seem calculated and half hearted to me.

    I would think Trump would want to hold his fire on Biden since he’s a gaffe master and would probably be easier to dispatch as the nominee since he’d probably gaffe himself right out of the race. Lizzy Warren just overtook Biden in some polls even before the Ukraine story and she’s a better debater and arguably a more formidable candidate than geriatric Joe.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  16. @anon

    “Romney is salivating.”

    The country isn’t ready for a President who wears magic underwear. Neither party is now worth a bucket of warm spit. Both parties killing themselves has been the only silver lining to the gray cloud of their mortally injuring the US.

  17. Tsigantes says:

    Thank you, Mr. Buchanon.

    I’m writing from Athens, Greece, where the Greek language media, along with most other European non-English language media, have tracked the Hunter Biden story since 2014 – the unashamed and unabashed nepotism, corruption and conflict of interest of his appointment to Burisma, and the subsequent trail of arrests in Ukraine for drugs, prostitution, drunk driving. Burisma itself is not a pretty story, and by being headquartered in Cyprus it of course evades Ukrainian taxes.

    All this is an old story here.
    It is satisfying, given the outrages that have been forced on the Ukrainian people, to have at least one tiny part of this horrible mess brought to light. For us it is immaterial who does this good thing.

    The fact that the Ukrainian prosecutor intended to prosecute despite Washington’s domination speaks to his honesty. Only the compradore “elites” of Europe would pretend anything different – for Washington’s sake.

    Meanwhile one can only marvel at the Democrat party: surely they realise they are only shooting themselves in the foot. Worse, what if it leads to the unveiling of other Obama era crimes?

  18. yetagain says:

    Thanks Pat – for reminding us that you never got over Nixon and now are confronted with even worse from this President.

    No wonder you’re whistling past the graveyard trying to change the subject.

    Enjoy Trump – you chose him old sport.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  19. anon[339] • Disclaimer says:

    Biden insists the Ukrainian prosecutor was corrupt, that Hunter had done no wrong, that he himself was unaware of his son’s business ties.

    All these assertions have been contradicted or challenged”.

    This is par the “American” course. This attitude of ordering other nations interface with many unrelated areas . America vouch for their honesty integrity and love for rule of law, desire for woman’s lib , peace, democracy and open business as the reasons for them to liberate Iraq ,sanction Iran, topple Basher ,kill foreign leaders ,impose IMF on Libya or Pakistan and displace tribals from Amazon or Ganges ,or dismantle welfare stems in Venezuela or India.

    Biden just made this personal.

    Whats wrong with this?

    Just as Biden knows that he was aware of the business and the corruption so was America that Taliban did nit attack USA and Saddam did not carry out 911 or conduct any WMD or CW tests .

    Biden was bombastic. So was America in 2003.

    Chicken coming home to roost . But the home has been usurped also by latinos blacks immigrants and by the climate change.

  20. Yup, first it was Tricky Dicky, now it’s herr drumpf.

    Nice judgment Pat – that’s gotta hurt, no?

    (BTW: How did your spin attempts for Nixon pan out durinh his impeachment episode?)

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
  21. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:

    — Slippery Liz.

    Good one. She’s gotta be next to get defrocked, a phony progressive Wall Street war hawk. Only not so soon that a limp Biden zombie could rise again.

    TULSI Gabbard = A Thinly Veiled Threat to Israel
    This speech was about Saudi Arabia, but the Israel Lobby has to get a cold chill at the thought of a US military that ONLY DEFENDS AMERICA.
    “Our military exists to defend America—not the radical Islamist dictatorship of Saudi Arabia”

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  22. El Dato says:

    We all enjoy Trump, and I hope the enjoyment lasts another few years, because there is a lot of roach-infested curtains and termite-infested walls to be torn down by the bumbling mastodont.

    (And, bugger me sideways, La Pelosi looks like something out of a Disney “Ghosts of the Carribean” amusement park ride, what’s going on?)

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  23. I certainly enjoy watching dishonest don – mob boss (and capo of the first family of real estate crime) indict himself.

    At least with other mobsters, it normally takes some FBI wiretaps. don, well he saved the FBI the trouble and provided the call summary – being dumb enough to believe that what he said would be ignored.

    Talk about earning his moron certificate…

    He is the gift that giveth – until he removes himself from office.

  24. JamesD says:
    @Minnesota Mary

    Hatread of Jesus Christ and envy of his followers.

  25. JamesD says:

    Yeah, because Trump completely let us down on SCOTUS. Wait….

    • Replies: @anonymous
  26. JamesD says:

    Dems are in a bind on this one. I think the DNC orchestrated the leak to take out Biden who is clearly losing it. But Biden’s strength was his “so called” pro-labor appeal, and there’s no one to take up that mantle. “So Called” because Biden sold out labor on the TPP with China in exchange for $1.5 Billion to Hunter.

    The replacement is the problem. Warren ain’t it. Watch the Fake News Media and see who they start promoting. Yes Warren can win the primary, but free medical to illegals means she’s toast.

    Also keep an eye on Michelle Obama.

  27. @Robert Dolan

    I would just call it the White Majority. Many of us on the Dissident Right are not Christians, most of whom worship Israel.

  28. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:

    Justice Kennedy – who decreed the change in legal marriage – was another Republican choice for whom young Mr. Kavanaugh clerked before helping President Cheney with the Patriot Act to earn his first robe on the Swampville Circuit. Chief Justice Roberts was the one who nailed down Big Sickness for the pharmaceutical and insurance industries.

    Like the “federal” elections held every November in even-numbered years and the 5-4 decrees of the Court, the nail-biting confirmation hearings are another part of the show that keeps people gulled into accepting that so many things in life are to be run by people in Washington. Mr. Buchanan for years has been proclaiming each The Most Important Ever.

    I’m still inclined to the notion that the Constitution was intended, at least by some of its authors and supporters, to create a limited national government. But even by the time of Marbury, those entrusted with the powers have arrogated the authority to redefine them. In my lifetime, the Court exists to deal with hot potato social issues in lieu of the invertebrate Congress, to forebear (along with the invertebrate Congress) the warmongering and other “foreign policy” waged under auspices of the President, and to dignify the Establishment’s shepherding and fleecing of the people.

    Why should a robed, unelected politician be redefining marriage? Entrusted to enforce the Constitutional limitations on the others? Sure, questions like these are posed from time to time in a dissenting Justice’s opinion, but that ends the discussion other than in the context of replacing old Justice X with middle-aged Justice Y. Those of us outside the Beltway are told to tune in and root Red. And there are pom pom shakers and color commentators just like Mr. Buchanan for Team Blue.

    But keep voting GOP….

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  29. @anon

    No democrat votes will be cast for months, yet Pat and other pundits are already saying that Pocahontas Warren will be their nominee. Tulsi raised the question of Warren’s lack of qualifications to be Commander-in-Chief (the most important job of any president). The media and the DNC are trying to bury Tulsi, just as the RNC tried to do the same with Trump – and we know how that turned out. The DNC failed this time to cheat her out of her rightful place in the upcoming debate, which must make phoneys like Warren scared to death. Don’t count Tulsi out. Americans are sick unto death of constant war.

    • Replies: @anon
  30. highest says:

    No one is “in a bind” save for the one under an impeachment inquiry – the President.

    He has no one to blame but himself and no conspiracy theory crap can mask his obvious stupidity and culpability.

    Talk about irony.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  31. @El Dato

    Compare 79 year-old Pelosi today with the Pelosi of 2007, when she told Leslie Stahl on 60 Minutes that she was against impeaching Bush. Back then she wasn’t bad looking and seemed to be in much better control of her faculties. The Pelosi of 2019 looks like she has aged 25 years and has trouble keeping her dentures in her mouth. Both she and Biden have hung around far too long.

  32. And yet, Pelosi is the one who announced and is leading an impeachment inquiry against Trump – who has trouble keeping his mouth shut at key moments so that he doesn’t impeach himself.

    Interesting. Maybe the President needs dentures instead of more Propecia.

  33. Enjoy Buchanan analysis, except his studious ignorance of Sanders popularity among the proletariat/serfs/plebeians/uninsured/underinsured/drowning under student debt and general disgruntled citizens…

    I noticed a link to Jimmy Dore, whose increasing popularity represents those people who are just below the surface of the pollsters waiting for someone, anyone to overthrow what everyone knows is a corrupt political governing class…viz Biden, Clinton and the rest on both sides of the isle.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  34. Pat mentions Butt-gig at only 5-6% nationally. Well, Andrew Yang is rising despite being outfunded and lacking many ultra-rich donors; Emerson Polling reported that he just reached eight percent nationally.

    Not saying that Yang will win the Dem nomination by any means. Just saying that he should be mentioned if other candidates with equal or less poll support are constantly mentioned.

    I’ll bet that Yang will be one of the three last Dem competitors standing and that he will poll more than ten percent consistently as others drop out.

    I wouldn’t vote for any Dem running in the general election. But for people voting in the White-Hating Sexually-Indeterminate Party Primary, Yang might be the least personally unstable and dishonest. Moreover, his UBI proposal deserves a hearing IF he truly requires recipients to give up other taxpayer-provided welfare benefits to get the UBI.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  35. @Zagonostra

    Agree with your point about the constituency you described, and also about the utter unfairness and unaffordability of medical care for many good, hard-working U.S. citizens.

    But nobody is “drowning under” undergraduate debt unless they made obviously stupid, easily avoidable decisions:

    (1) first and foremost, picking a school they know they can’t afford without large debt, i.e. a private and/or out-of-state university rather than a much cheaper in-state government university,

    (2) living in a dorm or apartment, instead of going to school near home and living with family when possible,

    (3) paying for an expensive meal plan or restaurants instead of cooking/eating at home,

    (4) in some cases, failing to work full-time during summer and part-time during the academic year.

    Did I follow this advice? No, not enough of it. I worked a lot of hours in the summer and during the school year, but ended up borrowing money anyway because I insisted on attending an expensive private university, with no family around to live with, instead of a much cheaper in-state “State school.”

    The difference between me and most folks who made stupid decisions indebting themselves unnecessarily for college — Warren and Sanders supporters et al. — is this: I’ve never complained about some imaginary college debt crisis, and I sure as Hell have never demanded that taxpayers cover my college loans. I spent many years paying them all off, and I deserved to do so given my imprudent choices.

    There’s a great book on this entirely self-inflicted “college debt crisis” by Zack Bissonnette, “Debt Free U.” One additional suggestion is attending dirt-cheap community college for the first two years, then transferring to a four-year institution. That seems to be “beneath” some of our little entitled snowflakes because supposedly “only stupid people go to community college” or “only poor people go to community college.”

    There’s also a new book by Dave Ramsey sidekick Anthony O’Neal about graduating college without debt, but I haven’t read it yet.

    In short, one can’t realistically find affordable medical care and medical insurance in many cases, but that is not at all true for college education despite the drumbeat of self-pitying hysteria.

    • Replies: @DRA
  36. Simply start by overthrowing the person at top of the “corrupt political governing class” – Trump.

    • Troll: follyofwar
    • Replies: @MaryLS
  37. @anonymous

    Nicely said.

    I’ll add that if we actually adhered to the Tenth Amendment, the federal government wouldn’t be legislating, regulating, or otherwise interfering in most of the areas it currently does.

    There would be no vicious fight over which side of contested issues gets to impose their views and preferred laws on all 350 million people living here.

    In turn, there would be no need for either side to run to the robed dictators and plead for them to impose a one-size-fits-all national approach to abortion, homosexual marriage, homosexual adoption, seat belt and helmet laws, drinking age, marijuana legalization, health insurance, etc.

    On a related note, we need to eliminate life tenure for federal judges, impose a mandatory retirement age, and greatly reduce their pensions. Are people here aware that federal judges get paid their ENTIRE salary when they take “senior status”, even though they have free reign then to choose their own workload (often, in time, handling no more than half the cases of an “active status” judge)?

    Then when an Article III federal judge retires, he gets his highest annual salary as his pension. This means that a retired federal judge received TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN PENSION EVERY YEAR UNTIL HE DIES. Who the Hell gets anything close to that among us taxpayers??

    The judges are out of control in how they rule, how they treat litigants and staff, and how they bilk the taxpayers.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @follyofwar
  38. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:

    Don’t count Tulsi out.

    Straight up. But strange how these commenters think the CIA “whistleblower” and fake Ukrainegate allegations won’t go the way of nothingburger Russiagate. Sad.

  39. martin2 says:

    How is it right for My Biden’s son, a man who has no knowledge of Ukraine or its language, who knows nothing about the oil and gas industry, and doesn’t appear to even have any business expertise, how is it possible for him to get a top executive job with this company earning something like 50,000 dollars a month? And Ukraine is supposed to be a poor country! His exorbitant salary was funded by the gas bills of poor Ukrainians. What a greedy bastard! And his dad is supposed to believe in “social justice” and equality. Clearly he hasn’t been very successful in convincing his son. Or maybe the elder Biden is just another leftist hypocrite, making sure his own family benefits from him having the right connections and being able to pull strings, whilst expecting everyone else to play by the rules. His cunt of a son earned more in a month for doing fuck all than most hard working stiffs would earn in a year. And Biden expects people to vote for him and his version of equality! Fat chance of that. His goose is cooke

  40. Paul says:

    How will Elizabeth Warren, should she get the Democratic nomination, defend the affirmative-action race preferences of the system she scammed?

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  41. Rich says:

    If by some crazy upside down miracle Trump is removed from office, Pence will get the nomination, win against the crazy bolsheviks in the dem party and serve 8 years as president. By then Mitt will be an old man on his way to Mormon heaven.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    , @anon
  42. HEREDOT says:

    It’s pointless to stand on individuals.Zionism whip, absolute power.

  43. Paul says:

    One thing about Elizabeth Warren is that she will put policy proposals out there instead of just attacking Donald Trump like other candidates do.

  44. @Minnesota Mary

    Pocohontas has four big things going against her personally:

    1. Intellectual lightweight. For all her ballyhooed law professor status and her book (which appears to be ghost-written) , she had to steal a spot at Harvard through lying about affirmative action — otherwise she’d be a second-tier law professor at Rutgers, doing nothing. Warren also has a very vacant stare when flustered or something unexpected happens, as is demonstrated when she freezes when people call her Pocohontas. Trump will have a field day with that tic during the debates. In short, while she’s not stupid, she’s below average for a Senator.

    2. Pocohontas. Stealing her affirmative action spot won’t go away. It could be a wedge issue against blacks–just enough to keep many of them from turning out for her. Plus it makes people generally not trust her. And a lot of whites who harbor problems with affirmative action but think its ok to solve some racial imbalance see her act as a betrayal—they’ve had to put up with subpar racial colleagues while getting no goodies, but she lied and took the goodies all the way to the Senate. Anyone who had a cheater vault over them to take a prize are going to harbor grudges against such a cheater.

    3. Nagging wife tone. When Margaret Thatcher was moving up the ranks, she was mocked for her shrill, hectoring tone when she got angry or upset, which came off as nagging wife and not leader-esque. She had to take elocution classes to learn how to speak in a female way that was commanding and with respect, which is difficult for women as it is unnatural. Warren still sounds shrill and nagging when upset or engaged, like a crazy aunt at Thanksgiving everyone rolls their eyes at and feels bad for her husband.

    4. Female. As Hillary learned, race is not gender. While many people (especially blacks) were energized to vote for the first black president (Obama), they were less so for the believed-to-be “first” female one (Hillary). Feminists have long piggy backed on racial issues, to less success. Hate whitey has far more legs than manhating. You’ll turn out for your race far more than for your gender. And many people still understand how unnatural it is for a country full of men to be led by a hectoring woman.

    And that;s before we deal with the fact that any D is going against the marvel that is Trump: 53% approval rating, good economy, and a master of the media moment.

  45. @Rich

    N.B. Mormons don’t believe in heaven, they literally believe that if you live the correct way in life that when you die become a God with your own little universe to rule over.

    I used to wonder why people said Mormons aren’t Christian, now I know.

  46. anonymous[931] • Disclaimer says:

    Thanks, same to you. The 10th Amendment has withered away as the rest of the document has been amended by judicial fiat with scarcely a peep from the gutless Congress and state politicians.

  47. anonymous[931] • Disclaimer says:

    Why do so many of the one-and-done commenters write so much alike, and ignore questions like mine?

  48. @Svevlad

    Warren is like Hillary in that she is so widely despised that she won’t be able to draw the crowds needed to explain the usual democrat vote fraud in reported totals.

  49. @KenH

    “she’s a better debater and arguably a more formidable candidate than geriatric Joe.”

    Yes, but that’s a very low standard. Biden is barely a notch above retarded. Warren is still not attractive to democrat voters. Most of her support seems to be among the young maniacs in college who will likely forget to vote or will screw up their ballots somehow.

  50. @Carlton Meyer

    The Ukrainian government officials that Biden was extorting in 2016 would be the ones installed in power after the Obama State Department and CIA did their regime-change thing in Kiev in 2014. We may be heading for an illuminating discussion of some of this stuff — intrigue that has so far been pretty much hidden from public view in the USA.

  51. anon[299] • Disclaimer says:

    If Pence rules for 8 years, he will bring on Armageddon – the Rapture, destroy the world.

    Will Mormon heaven be destroyed in Rapture?

  52. @El Dato

    So how come The Smartest Woman In The World (TM) was keeping hers in a bathroom closet?

  53. anonymous[198] • Disclaimer says:

    Andrew Yang will emerge as the Democratic nominee.

    • Replies: @MaryLS
  54. We’ll have to see how it plays out. Let’s say Bernie wins, the first thing he will probably do is call for national unity, but how likely is it that will happen? Will the MAGA crowd dig in and “resist” socialism, gun confiscation?

    The Dark Horse not mentioned here is Andrew Yang. Some polls have him 4th or 5th. Some online bookies have him in third place, behind Warren and Biden. If Biden goes down, It could come to Yang vs Warren.

    Andrew Yang has a lot of positive energy and he appeals to Trump voters.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @EoinW
  55. @RadicalCenter

    Now we’re on RBG watch. Will she make it until after the next election (hoping that Trump is defeated), or finally croak before then? Given her years of poor health, she is making a mockery of the SC’s lifetime tenure rule. If she dies, McConnell’s refusal to give Obama’s final pick, Merrick Garland, a hearing (citing an imaginary ‘Biden Rule’) will come back to bite the GOP. The circus would be even worse than the Kavanaugh fiasco if Trump makes his pick before the next election. Given how these ridiculous confirmation hearings have degenerated, and the threats to their families, I suspect that many well qualified judges wouldn’t even take the job.

    Justices like RBG are ruling however they want anyway. They use the Constitution as toilet paper.

  56. @anon

    It wouldn’t take Pence anywhere near 8 years to do it. More like 8 months.

  57. Rich says:

    Hilary Clinton, as a dem candidate for US president, said she’d impose a no fly zone on Syria while Russian jets were in the air, I think the US left is more apt to bring about WW3 than anyone on the right.

    I don’t think anyone, especially Mike Pence, believes in the “Rapture”. That’s a story no one takes seriously. It was a fiction book written by Tim Lahaye that made a lot of money. There’s no evidence that indicates Pence belongs to any doomsday cult.

  58. JR says:

    Pelosi’s move looks more like a short term tactical appeasement for the extreme left democrats. Only a week ago Pelosi threw Nadler under the bus by comparing him to obsessed Captain Ahab and now we are supposed she opted for Impeachment while she only opened an inquiry.

    • Replies: @seekerofthepresence
  59. @Paul

    Just like they all do. Hypocrisy and mendacity.

  60. Vojkan says:

    The only competent candidate Democrats have is Gabbard and they’ll never allow her to get nominated. So Warren or someone else, I believe they’ll need much more than 1 million dead people and 3 million illegal immigrants to beat Trump.

    • Replies: @anon
  61. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:

    When Biden and Warren have gone down, it will be Yang vs. Gabbard.

    Tulsi Gabbard: Impeachment would be ‘terribly divisive’

    • Replies: @DRA
  62. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:

    “Elizabeth Warren’s CFR Q&A paints a picture of an establishment candidate lip-synching the Washington consensus on Israel-Palestine and pushing regime change against Venezuela. Her State Dept would be a haven for CNAS and CAP hacks.”

    Elizabeth Warren won’t stand up to Israel’s crimes

  63. @Rich

    Every Evangelical I know believes in the rapture.
    And most are Dominionists who believe they will be swept up into heaven before the nukes start flying. Pence, I believe, is both.

    P.S. Recent Princeton U. simulation indicates 34 million would die in first 45 min of nuclear exchange just in the European theater.
    91 million would die in the first several hours as the war expanded.

    The “Our Father” says, “Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.” Can’t recall the Bible ever discussing nuclear war in heaven.

    • Replies: @Rich
  64. ricpic says:

    Well, that gets the Biden problem out of the way as far as most Democrats are concerned. Now let’s see if they can somehow manipulate the nominating process sufficiently to get their darling vicious woman of colah Kamala the nod.

  65. @JR

    “Trump, I stab at thee!” yells Ahab.

    The Pequot ends up in pieces…

    • Replies: @seekerofthepresence
  66. “Ukraine-gate” is just further proof of the corruption in both parties , as Pat Buchanan has previously stated the Democratic and the Republican parties are ” two wings of the same bird of prey “.

  67. trumphab says:

    Actually. the film version of Trump’s impeachment would feature Gregory Peck as Captain Trumphab harpooning himself with his utterly corrupt personal stupidity.

    Then his crew (led by Mick Mulvaney) come to try remove yet another self-launched harpoon from Captain Trumphab’s foot while Trumphab swears, “It was a perfect throw, a beautiful throw I tell you”

    The rest of the crew sigh, “Oy vey – not again!”

  68. @9/11 Inside job

    Klingon, with multiple cloaking devices.

    Defective plasma coil in Speaker’s head.

  69. EoinW says:

    Not that I am ever right about this predicting game, however I said last year that Hillary Clinton will be the Dem nominee and I am sticking to that call.

    Why else would the Democrats bring up Ukraine unless it was to take out Biden, making way for Hillary? The vampiress shall need another stake in the heart before we’re finally rid of her.

    Tulsi is a nice idea but totally unrealistic simply because the DNC will not allow her to win. We know they can rig their nominating process. Gabbard is the only one who could beat Trump, because she is anti-war. And being anti-war is another reason why she won’t be given a chance to run against him.

    So it’s Trump in a cakewalk, unless he is stupid enough to start a war with Iran. When that war comes an USA in economic collapse will be of far greater concern than who the next president will be…of a country soon to break up.

    PS does anyone know why Tulsi has been allowed back into the debates for October? The DNC shutting her out makes sense. Allowing her back in? Were the tv ratings that bad without her? Or are the DNC even more incompetant than I thought?

  70. Rich says:

    The only people I’ve ever heard say that Evangelicals want to bring on the “Rapture”, are anti-White leftists seeking to defeat moderates and conservatives. Evangelicals, at least the mainstream ones, are among the the most docile of citizens. Without firing a shot they’ve allowed illegals to swarm into their country, lower wages and take jobs. They’ve given in on homosexual marriage, affirmative action and women’s “liberation”. Their religion may be misguided, but they are no threat to the country, or the world.

  71. Who cares about Tulsi? She’s not being impeached.

  72. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @9/11 Inside job

    Emphasis on “previously” — now, this website’s Mr. Paleoconservative is a Team Red cheerleader, gulling people to vote for more of the same in the next Most Important Election Ever.

  73. MaryLS says:

    Trump was elected, but he is hardly a member of the “governing class”. The governing class is doing everything they can to get him dumped.

  74. MaryLS says:

    That eoild be amazing, but it is not likely. Yang is not part if the establishment. I like him, but he suits more as a cabinet member than President. He has knowledge and good ideas, but I think he is out of step with too many Americans who are not ready for his brand of social engineering.

  75. @Carlton Meyer

    Due to the leak coinciding with his being fired, many people suspect that Bolton, who actually hates Trump, was the inside leaker.

  76. @Twodees Partain

    Hillary is still waiting in the wings.

    She believes three’s a charm. But the country still isn’t ready for a gorgon in the Oval Office.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  77. @anon

    “…[Pence] will bring on Armageddon…”

    That’s the crackpipe talkin’ again. Stop. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

  78. pB says:

    imagine thinking the future of the democratic party rest on anything other than demographics.

  79. @Kolya Krassotkin

    That’s credible. I hope that Hillary’s influence is dying out as the people she has been blackmailing with her stolen FBI files die out.

  80. @Rich

    The rapture fantasy predates Lahaye’s series of novels by generations. It’s a staple dogma of Dispensationalists, and is taken literally by a large segment of Christians, unfortunately. Pence, as a politician, is likely faking his beliefs, but that isn’t much comfort.

  81. APilgrim says:

    Lyndon Hermyle LaRouche Jr. ran for president eight times from 1976 through 2004, running first with the now-defunct U.S. Labor Party and later as a Democrat. LaRouche was convicted in 1988 of tax and mail fraud conspiracy after a jury found him guilty of cheating the IRS and his own supporters. He served five years in prison and ran his 1992 presidential campaign from a prison cell.

    Lyndon LaRouche, at age 96, died on Tuesday, February 12, 2019.

    LaRouche was connected to an array of odd conspiracy theories, which morphed over time.

    So Biden & Hillary can also campaign from prison, perhaps as running mates.

  82. A123 says:

    On behalf of President Trump, I would like to thank Pelosi for the last 3 days: (1)
    + 50,000 New Donors
    + $15,000,000 Raised

    Nancy, we couldn’t have done it without you.

    PEACE 😇



  83. DRA says:

    Given that I expect there will be no contest in the Republican primary, I expect to vote in the Democrat primary; Gabbart or Yang are my current faves.

    • Replies: @APilgrim
  84. DRA says:

    Agree! 2 yrs voluntary draftee, 2 yrs JC, U of IL BSCE, grad work at Northwestern and a successful career and happily retired. About $2k debt upon U of I graduation.

  85. APilgrim says:

    They do seem slightly less SCUMMY than the others.

    Local, County, State, & congressional races are important.

    I split ticket vote, all the way up & down the ballot. Political parties nominate the dead, blind, crippled, crazy, and incarcerated. So there are usually several NON-STARTERS for the GOP and the Democrats.

    Have fun.

  86. Marxists co-opt the constitution
    To force Hillary restitution.

  87. @Buck Ransom

    “Kryptonite” a double shot.

  88. @anonymous

    It certainly is a huge distraction, though. Like a car wreck.

  89. Anonymous[102] • Disclaimer says:

    All this says is that Warren will be the next President. I’m down with that.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  90. Anonymous[102] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twodees Partain

    The Democrats focused on getting a majority of votes last time. They won’t make that mistake again. That majority will spread to the states that control the electoral college. Pat Buchanan and reality don’t make any sense together.

  91. Rurik says:

    Warren will be the next President. I’m down with that.

    no doubt, “Anonymous”

  92. Corvinus says:

    “Well that’s the very reason that Trump will be exonerated in the Senate.”

    Only for R’s to cover up their own malfeasance. But Trump is making it easier for him to get pinched.

    “They know that if they vote to remove, Trump will likely win the 2020 election by a landslide…”

    Are you Nate Silver?

    “The only possible reason to imagine this would be if a large enough group thought that half a year of president Pence would be enough to get us into war with Iran, which there’s a good chance it would…”

    Actually, it’s highly unlikely.

  93. Corvinus says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    “I now think that someone on the Trump team did this leak. It only helps him. The dirt on Biden was public, but ignored by the corporate media.”

    LOL. No. The leaker was a career intelligence officer who is carrying out his duty to protect America first.

    You do realize that two corrupt Ukrainian prosecutors repeatedly dropped cases connected to Paul Manafort’s old pro-Kremlin boss, Viktor Yanukovych, at the behest of Trump, right?

    You do realize the former Ukrainian prosecutor at the heart of the Trump whistleblower scandal states that he saw no evidence of criminality by Hunter Biden, right?

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