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“The Indians are seeing 60,000 Chinese soldiers on their northern border,” Secretary of State Michael Pompeo ominously warned on Friday.

He spelled out what he meant to commentator Larry O’Connor:

“The Chinese have now begun to amass huge forces against India in the north. … They absolutely need the United States to be their ally and partner in this fight.”

Pompeo had just returned from a Tokyo gathering of foreign ministers from the Quadrilateral Security Dialogue, or “Quad,” the group of four democracies — U.S., Japan, Australia, India — whose purpose is to discuss major Indo-Pacific geostrategic issues.

Exactly what kind of “ally and partner” the U.S. is to be “in the fight” between India and China over disputed terrain in the Himalayan Mountains was left unexplained. We have no vital interest in where the Line of Control between the most populous nations on earth should lie that would justify U.S. military involvement with a world power like China.

And the idea that Japan, whose territorial quarrel with China is over the tiny Senkaku Islands in the East China Sea, thousands of miles away, would take sides in a Himalayan India-China conflict also seems ludicrous.

Yet, tensions are rising between the U.S. and China, as the list of ideological, political and economic clashes continues to lengthen.

And there is a transparent new reality: China seems in no mood to back down.

When, after a year of demonstrations for greater democracy, the Hong Kong government failed to quell the uprising, Beijing stepped in and took control. The U.S.-led democracies that had been cheering on the Hong Kong marchers and protesters did nothing, and they have done nothing since to reverse Xi Jinping’s political coup but prattle on about “values.”

Lately, the democracies have been protesting, and rightly so, the inhumane treatment of the Uighur peoples in Xinjiang in China’s west.

Han Chinese have been moved into the region to swamp the local population of Turkic and Muslim Uighurs and Kazakhs and bring about the demographic change Beijing desires. “Reeducation camps” have been established to cleanse Uighurs of their ethnic and religious identities and convert them into loyal and reliable Chinese Communists.

In a speech in late September, Xi declared that Beijing’s policy of eradicating the ethnic and religious identity of the minorities of Xinjiang through state-driven education has proven “totally correct.”

He vowed to imprint a Chinese identity “deep in the soul” of the peoples living there. “Our national minority work has been a success,” said Xi, “It must be held to for the long term.”

Xi makes no apology for — indeed, he is proud of — using state power to impose the state ideology upon the peoples he rules, and he openly repudiates our democratic values as inapplicable in his country.

ORDER IT NOW

Our rejection of China’s claims to virtually all of the reefs and atolls in the South China Sea is also being ignored. Beijing’s warnings grow louder and more pointed as the U.S. continues to send warships, the latest being the USS John McCain, close to islets claimed by China.

What is our strategy here? Are we prepared for a naval and air clash in these waters? What would be the U.S. strategic goal?

The Chinese are now responding angrily and defiantly to what they see as the provocations of sending high-level U.S. officials, and selling new weapons, to Taiwan, which China regards as its lost province.

Again, what is our purpose in playing the Taiwan card now?

If it is to provoke a fight, then are we prepared for a war in the Taiwan Strait or South China Sea? Do we think the Chinese will capitulate?

Is this being done to “stand up to China” before Nov. 3?

Which is the party here that is engaged in bluster and bluff and which is the party that seems deadly serious as it views its vital interests and territorial rights as challenged?

There has been talk of the Quad evolving into an Asian NATO that embraces the major democracies in the Indo-Pacific Theater.

But the essence of NATO is Article V, where the U.S. commits itself to treat an attack on any one of some 30 nations as an attack on us.

Is there anything like this in the cards?

Australia, Japan and the U.S. are not going to war with China over its border with India, or its ethnic concentration camps in Xinjiang, or its seizing Hong Kong and atolls in the South China Sea.

When this election is over, this country has to think through what we are and are not willing to fight China for.

Xi Jinping dismisses our concerns over Hong Kong and the Uighurs, and he appears willing to fight for Taiwan and for what Beijing holds in the South China Sea, rather than see it permanently lost.

Are we?

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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  1. anonymous[267] • Disclaimer says:

    Has Mr. Buchanan lost interest in the next Most Important Election Ever? He’s written two Exceptional! columns in a row, this one like several others in recent years a press release from “Secretary of [War] Michael Pompeo” wrapped in pronoun propaganda and faux dissidence posed as questions.

    As long as people keep falling for

    Is it our task to keep Belgian babies off the Kaiser’s bayonets?

    Should we lose any sleep as Hitler turns the lights of democracy out across Europe?

    Do we as Americans still have what it takes to prevent the regime of Saddam Hussein from tossing Kuwaiti incubator babies on hospital floors?

    Is it really our business whether Hussein stockpiles weapons of mass destruction on the other side of the world?

    columnists like “Mr. Paleoconservative” will be part of the Establishment that runs our country and as much of the world as it can from Washington.

    • Replies: @robert scheetz
  2. While the author seems to be discussing the China vs Democracies (ie, “the Quad”, although the USA is definitively NOT a democracy) issue from a dispassionate & objective standpoint, the perspective is nonetheless very American – which I suppose is fair, given that the narrative is written by an American for an American audience. The overall sentiment of this article is inarguably intelligent and logical, putting the fundamental issue of the national interest (of all the involved players) front and center.

    I do, however, take certain allegations with a big, fat, crystallised grain of salt. For example:

    Lately, the democracies have been protesting, and rightly so, the inhumane treatment of the Uighur peoples in Xinjiang in China’s west.

    I believe the Uyghur people in Xinjiang today are the descendents of Turkish fighters brought in by a Chinese dynasty to fight some local war some centuries ago, and given land and riches in Xinjiang as a reward for their services. Hence a large body of what are now indigenous Turks living in a Chinese province.

    Fast forward to today, and we (allegedly) see propaganda operations & separatist agitations in Xinjiang fomented by the usual suspects (read: American & British alphabet agencies) heavily augmented by returning ISIS psychos who have been funded, trained and armed by those same malign actors in the Middle East. Queue acts of violence & terrorism directed toward a spontaneous “Color Revolution” in China’s Xinjiang province!

    China, being a totalitarian democracy, has apparently taken steps to rein in whatever situation is unfolding in Xinjiang.

    As to what exactly is happening in Xinjiang, our coordinated, syndicated and thoroughly orchestrated network of utterly subverted mainstream Western media channels breathlessly recite stories of Xinjiang concentration camps and Uyghur genocide – all reinforced through the dominant social media channels which actively censor and ban any counter-narrative information.

    I don’t claim to know what’s going on with the Uyghurs in Xinjiang, but given the history of malevolent Western extra-territorial activities & weaponised Western media campaigns, I’m not inclined to accept at the official Western narrative on the subject.

    • Agree: Kratoklastes, GeeBee
    • Replies: @Awash
  3. “USA should nuke all nations who do not measure up——global cooling will result—and God will ensure America will remain safe- united and prosperous.” Mr Grim Reaper knows his stuff-

    • LOL: Realist
    • Replies: @follyofwar
  4. Pat Buchanan should perhaps do some travelling and understand more than the USA current situation which is far from perfect. USA spent 740 Billion on Defense last year and this was larger than the next 40 combined. USA has been at war over falsehoods in Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya—-while USA infrastructure crumbles and Americans are misrepresented —-USA has been sold out by the clique in DC.

    • Agree: anonymous1963
    • Replies: @Piglet
  5. anonymous[333] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s time to get out of the Western Pacific. Any buildup to match China’s buildup in the region will end up being used to wage a bigger war in the Middle East. This can be the only reason why NYT columnist Bret Stephens supports the US providing Taiwan an explicit guarantee and selling more weapons to them. Stephens is a pro-Israel hawk, everything he says must be seen with the goal of supporting Israel in mind. US military pressure on China will lead to China supplying more accurate missiles to Iran and investing in Iran’s oil and gas industry (not simply buying oil but investing in new production capacity). The change in the balance of power in the Middle East with Chinese support for Iran will be awful for Israel. So the only astute reason why Stephens and other pro-Israel hawks would support military confrontation with China is to protect the erosion of the US military budget which has been falling as a percentage of GDP. Maintaining a robust military would give the US the capability to still topple Iran when the stars eventually align.

    • Agree: Exile
    • Replies: @Rurik
  6. Another war Pat Buchanan —this will push the Debt to new levels but DC will be happy. USA has 740 bases afar but with crumbling infrastrucure and problems galore at home—better fix things along Main Street USA.

    • Agree: Realist
    • Replies: @AaronInMVD
  7. the democracies have been protesting, and rightly so, the inhumane treatment of the Uighur peoples in Xinjiang in China’s west. Han Chinese have been moved into the region to swamp the local population of Turkic and Muslim Uighurs and Kazakhs and bring about the demographic change Beijing desires. “Reeducation camps” have been established to cleanse Uighurs of their ethnic and religious identities and convert them into loyal and reliable Chinese Communists. In a speech in late September, Xi declared that Beijing’s policy of eradicating the ethnic and religious identity of the minorities of Xinjiang through state-driven education has proven “totally correct.”

    Guess what? 53 Muslim and predominantly Muslim nations, all of which have inspected China’s program, agree with Xi.

    And guess what else? Most of the countries condemning China’s program have
    (a) never seen it and
    (b) recently bombed or are bombing, or otherwise terrorizing Muslims.

    And guess what else else? We spent billions spreading terrorism in Xinjiang. Says US Ambassador Chas. H. Freeman,

    “The CIA programs in Tibet, which were very effective in destabilizing it, did not succeed in Xinjiang. There were similar efforts made with the Uyghurs during the Cold War that never really got off the ground. In both cases you had religion waved as a banner in support of a desire for independence or autonomy which is, of course, is anathema to any state. I do believe that people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones applies here. I am part American Indian and those people are not here (in the US) in the numbers they once were because of severe genocidal policies on the part of the European majority”. 8/31/18

    https://supchina.com/podcast/legendary-diplomat-chas-w-freeman-jr-on-u-s-china-strategy-and-history-part-3/

    • Agree: dfordoom
    • Thanks: Ultrafart the Brave
    • Replies: @Rich
    , @showmethereal
    , @DinoN
  8. USA needs war to keep DC happy–either Party.

  9. Mr. Buchanan is totally off track.

    Trump’s pet-pig Pompeo is just spouting nonsense as usual and trying to goad the Indians into further conflict with China.

    But neither China nor India wants a serious conflict. Apart from a few skirmishes to show the voters back home that their leaders have large gonads, neither country wants more than a few dozen casualties that they will have to explain to their voters or supporters.

    If you have lived with Chinese and indian politicians for decades, you won’t have any misguided fantasies abt them having a war so that delusional neocons and virus-ridden trumptard Americans can chortle with glee.

  10. anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:

    The mistreatment of Uighurs is just a pretext. No one in America even knows who they are to begin with nor do they care. The reefs and atolls in the South China Sea (note the name) are controllable by them because they live there and we don’t. China has become the world’s rising economic power and is now a competitor. Much of this was helped along by the US, by the way. Military conflict would have economic motives rather than concocted concern over who controls some desolate mountain tops. There’s a limit as to how much power the US can project into other parts of the world and the days of being able to do so started winding down in Asia around the time of the Korean war. War over there is a losing proposition; let’s not even fantasize about it.

  11. @anonymous

    Should China be allowed to persist in its ascent and the U.S., its descent, the dollar will lose its hegemony, its debt service (along with all its vassal states), become insupportable, and the entire Wall St. will edifice collapse. Therefore, war with China is a necessity … for the 1% and its factota. As for the rest of us, we will suffer with loss of Washington/Wall St. hegemony; but much less than after a World War.

    • Agree: Exile
    • Replies: @Albertde
  12. mike6972 says:

    Quick! Let’s defend India against China so India can continue taking our IT jobs. We wouldn’t want to upset our giant corporations! Let’s draft former US IT workers, give them guns, and send them to India so that Indian IT workers can continue doing the work they stole from Americans. Three cheers for the New World Order!

    • Agree: jim jones
    • Replies: @Hillbob
  13. Pat Buchanan asks the hard questions. For both Beijing and Washington “vital interests” are at stake, which history shows leads to war. Conflict between the US and China will be a world war.
    https://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/

  14. Xi Jinping dismisses our concerns over Hong Kong and the Uighurs, and he appears willing to fight for Taiwan and for what Beijing holds in the South China Sea, rather than see it permanently lost.

    Are we?

    Yes.

    Nearly never are the correct parameters brought into mind though. When one is not infected with what passes for this kind of analysis at the Saker, the most important facet to know – that is easily known – about China’s military posture is that its strategies are all defensive in nature and are predicated around its inability to choose the location of the fight. From there, all else is specifics and best not talked about.
    Secondary to all of that are its universal lack of actual combat experience, where in all dimensions it stands to face veteran US adversaries. In a conventional standoff the entire Chinese surface fleet will be mopped up in under 3 weeks and the war would shift to a hut/kill of submariners and attrit for land-based missiles of un-predictable duration.

    It’s the failure to get around these that causes commenters to fail to grapple with the real problems at hand. For one: China may be expected to wage aggressive asymmetric warfare with the US against soft targets like water supply and electrical grid. For another – the risk of nuclear escalation isn’t small – it’s high, and the cost of nuclear exchange will be incalculable. Lastly – while we are distracted with a war demanding all our national assets, problem areas like Korea and Iran become acute risks as their leaders will be prone to see opportunity.

    Because a war may be unavoidable, and because of the asymmetric and nuclear risks – good strategy now would be for the CIA to wage a vicious campaign of destabilization. The more a shooting war becomes likely, the more aggressive should be our campaign to destabilize the CCP’s grip on power – a CCP sufficiently distracted by internal problems and intranicene conflict is least likely to risk facing down the US in the S. China Sea or Taiwan.

  15. Realist says:

    “The Indians are seeing 60,000 Chinese soldiers on their northern border,” Secretary of State Michael Pompeo ominously warned on Friday.

    How many US soldiers are on the Russian, Syrian, Iranian borders?

    Yet, tensions are rising between the U.S. and China, as the list of ideological, political and economic clashes continues to lengthen.

    Yes, the Deep State does not like the prospect of China interfering with US world hegemony. The Deep State means to keep unipolar control of the world (it’s too late for that).

    The U.S.-led democracies that had been cheering on the Hong Kong marchers and protesters did nothing, and they have done nothing since to reverse Xi Jinping’s political coup but prattle on about “values.”

    What bullshit…even the US is not a democracy.

    In a speech in late September, Xi declared that Beijing’s policy of eradicating the ethnic and religious identity of the minorities of Xinjiang through state-driven education has proven “totally correct.”

    Yes, China is a secular country and they have no intent to allow their country to be overwhelmed by religious dogma as in the US.

    Xi makes no apology for — indeed, he is proud of — using state power to impose the state ideology upon the peoples he rules, and he openly repudiates our democratic values as inapplicable in his country.

    Our democratic values that is a goddamn joke…this country is under the total control of the Deep State. Further more it is of no business of the US how China runs it’s country.

    • Troll: Corvinus
  16. By staring down the US, China can be a guiding light for the rest of the free world. Let’s hope that they (and Russia and Iran) can hold off a war long enough, just a few more years really, for the US military to be completely degraded by affirmative action hire black and women officers.

  17. Yet, tensions are rising between the U.S. and China, as the list of ideological, political and economic clashes continues to lengthen.

    China is a sovereign country on the other side of the world; China did not force the U.S. to offshore its manufacturing industries; and China does not do “freedom of navigation” exercises in the Gulf of Mexico. Tensions are rising because of Trump’s relentless provocations.

    Lately, the democracies have been protesting, and rightly so, the inhumane treatment of the Uighur peoples in Xinjiang in China’s west.

    When the corrupt “West” ends its crimes against humanity then it may have some standing to criticize Russia, China, Iran, Venezuela, etc.; until then the sanctimonious hypocrites should shut-up.

    Xi makes no apology for — indeed, he is proud of — using state power to impose the state ideology upon the peoples he rules, and he openly repudiates our democratic values as inapplicable in his country.

    While the evil orange clown holed-up in the white house illegally occupies Syria, steals Syrian oil, burns Syrian crops, starves Venezuela and Iran, supports Israel’s endless crimes against the Palestinians, arms Saudi Arabian butchers, threatens all life on earth with nuclear brinkmanship, etc.

    Xi Jinping dismisses our concerns over Hong Kong and the Uighurs, and he appears willing to fight for Taiwan and for what Beijing holds in the South China Sea, rather than see it permanently lost.

    Are we?

    Alas, the trademark pronoun propaganda appears.

    Well the evil orange clown is probably willing (or can be manipulated into it) and his jewish-supremacist handlers and enablers don’t have much of a choice because the satanic world empire of their wet dreams has no chance to succeed unless all other world powers are brought down, so they will risk destroying what’s left of the U.S. without hesitation.

  18. Awash says:
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    Did an Uyghur steal your lunch? You seem to have personal animosity toward a helpless minority.

  19. @Awash

    ‘Helpless minority’? Ma Zhonying and his “Army of Rape and National Restoration” is still in living memory for some!

    • Replies: @Awash
  20. utu says:

    “Australia, Japan and the U.S. are not going to war with China over its border with India, or its ethnic concentration camps in Xinjiang, or its seizing Hong Kong and atolls in the South China Sea.” – Mr. Buchanan did not mention Taiwan here because he knows that the US has no other option but to go to war over Taiwan’s independence. Taiwan is the most important piece in the new Domino Theory.

    • Troll: d dan
  21. Antiwar7 says:

    This article is so dishonest. It states:

    In a speech in late September, Xi declared that Beijing’s policy of eradicating the ethnic and religious identity of the minorities of Xinjiang through state-driven education has proven “totally correct.”

    Xi was NOT talking about “eradicating the ethnic and religious identity of the minorities of Xinjiang.

    This is what he was talking about:

    Thanks to strenuous efforts from all sides since the second symposium in 2014, major progress has been achieved in the work related to Xinjiang, Xi said, citing a series of markedly improving key indicators from 2014 to 2019, such as a sound economic momentum with an average annual GDP growth rate of 7.2 percent, people’s living standards being significantly improved with an average annual 9.1 percent growth in residential per capita disposable income, and more than 2.92 million out of 3.09 million people being lifted out of poverty.

    Such a sound situation where people live and work in contentment has laid a solid foundation for long-term peace and stability in Xinjiang, Xi said.

    Source: http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-09/26/c_139399424.htm

    • Thanks: Ultrafart the Brave
  22. Farenheit says:

    Han Chinese have been moved into the region to swamp the local population of Turkic and Muslim Uighurs and Kazakhs and bring about the demographic change Beijing desires

    Change some of the nouns, and you’re just describing California over the last 20 years.

    • Agree: Rurik
    • Replies: @anonymous1963
  23. Rurik says:
    @anonymous

    will end up being used to wage a bigger war in the Middle East. This can be the only reason why NYT columnist Bret Stephens supports the US providing Taiwan an explicit guarantee and selling more weapons to them.

    from Venezuela to Iraq, to Iran and Syria and Lebanon to Russia and now China, it always boils down to the same thing.

    Israel is currently consolidating the world’s cyber/information technologies into a weaponized super-surveillance state.

    Every call that is made, every character typed into a search engine, all GPS data and everything else, are all collected and sifted though algorithms and sorted and stored. AI super-computers (that make yesterday’s super-computers look like the calculators we used in school) are all used in a military-type of intelligence gathering for purposes that render the use of the word ‘nefarious’, utterly insufficient.

    Their only rival on the cyber-tech intelligence-gathering stage is China.

    When a power becomes an unilateral power, (just like a man/king/emperor/etc..) it doesn’t much care for the idea of a rival. Israel has been the unilateral power in the West, and beyond, since the end of the second world war, when Israel rose out of the ashes of Europe, to ride herd on America like that iconic ‘Master’ riding on ‘Blaster’s shoulders.

    China is growing to become an inconvenience to the ((unilateral power)) on the planet today.

    So Master is going to order his big dumb golem Blaster, to go show China ‘who run Bartertown’

    No wonder the J-supremacists are so mad at Mel. That imagery of Master-Blaster is just waaayyy too uncannily and metaphorically accurate.

    • Agree: Exile
  24. Awash says:
    @Supply and Demand

    A billion Han against a million Uyghur. Shameless CCP.

  25. Dr. Doom says:

    China is expanding due to the need to use up unmarried males and grab resources.

    Taiwan should not be a protectorate of the Falling American Empire.

    We need to look inward at our internal problems and avoid further foreign adventures.

    India is in between Pakistan and China. Both have aims on Indian territory.

    We should mind our own business for once. We have serious problems at home.

    Immigration, infrastructure and jobs should be the focus of the American Government.

    Nothing else…

    • Replies: @anonymous1963
  26. @GomezAdddams

    “USA should nuke all nations who do not measure up.”

    In that case, the USA should NUKE itself!

  27. Nope.

    You alt-righters are sissy-wissy scaredy-cats.

    The sky is falling. The boogie-man is comin to gitcha.

  28. Lately, the democracies have been protesting, and rightly so, the inhumane treatment of the Uighur peoples in Xinjiang in China’s west.

    Han Chinese have been moved into the region to swamp the local population of Turkic and Muslim Uighurs and Kazakhs and bring about the demographic change Beijing desires. “Reeducation camps” have been established to cleanse Uighurs of their ethnic and religious identities and convert them into loyal and reliable Chinese Communists.

    Our elites are using immigrants to change demographics at home, and are complaining that China is doing that to another people? Are rulers really are crazy and evil!

  29. Anon[548] • Disclaimer says:

    Wear a mask to protect yourself
    Vote Trump to finish this country off sooner than vote Biden and wait a little longer .

  30. Hillbob says:
    @mike6972

    How did India go about stealing these(IT) jobs again? Pray , tell me genius

    • Replies: @Donald A Thomson
  31. TJM says: • Website

    Buchanan is completely out of date. Someone please tell him to take his meds and go watch “Gunsmoke” reruns.
    Any thinking human who still believes in these dumb ass nation state wars is an idiot.

  32. anon[264] • Disclaimer says:

    Quick! Let’s defend India against China so India can continue taking our IT jobs. We wouldn’t want to upset our giant corporations! Let’s draft former US IT workers, give them guns, and send them to India so that Indian IT workers can continue doing the work they stole from Americans.

    You mind-melded with Marc Short, Pompeo, and Kush Jr simultaneously.

    Exactly why / how the Republiscam party led to the current betrayal of its base voter for short term, lucrative, payoffs.

    Now, back to the front lines – our paying Mughal replacements contributed a million bucks and they deserve nothing less than your total sacrifice, you cant stop voting til they are ready, after all..

    Unfortunately, this is not farce –

    It was springtime at President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago club, and the favor-seekers were swarming.

    In a gold-adorned ballroom filled with Republican donors, an Indian-born industrialist from Illinois pressed Mr. Trump to tweet about easing immigration rules for highly skilled workers and their children.

    “He gave a million dollars,” the president told his guests approvingly, according to a recording of the April 2018 event.

    In Trump’s quasi defence it look like there as a major gap between this outburst and the eventual Tweet, so it is still a sellout, but it seems like the sellout might have been due to some other combined plottings instead of merely the one gleeful payback of the million dollar donor who expected his full recompense.

  33. India and China creating this mess over pieces of snow. What clowns.

  34. If America had a sane foreign policy, there would be as little chance of war as between China and Argentina.

  35. @Farenheit

    Or pretty much the whole of the west.

  36. @Dr. Doom

    ENDING immigration should be the focus.

  37. @SimplePseudonymicHandle

    Nearly never are the correct parameters brought into mind though.

    You clearly have put some thought into your analysis of the geostategic issues re China vs USA.

    What strikes me as missing from this assessment is any consideration of the fundamentally crucial question – WHY?

    There seems to be an implicitly accepted justification for all this American imperial belligerence in the assumption that “China, Iran, North Korea & etc” are all evil – like a paradoxical real-life parody of a fictional South Park parody – and that any flag-waving American extraterritorial unilateral shock-and-awe campaign deserves the world’s unconditional support.

    I’d suggest that those views are diametrically opposite to reality. The past 20 years is replete with substantiated evidence of the lies which have facilitated the rampage of American imperialism. Saddam Hussein’s alleged WMD’s are just the proverbial tip of the iceberg.

    Even your own commentary hints at the truth:

    China’s military posture is that its strategies are all defensive in nature…

    So who is the aggressor here, and WHY?

    Again, the entrenched villainous characterization of sovereign nations who have invaded no-one, and certainly pose no risk to the USA:

    …problem areas like Korea and Iran become acute risks as their leaders will be prone to see opportunity …

    Acute risks to what? American imperial dominance of the planet?

    And opportunity to do what? Iran and North Korea both have no particular history of unprovoked unilateral military aggression, unlike a certain globally extended imperial power who unilaterally threatens everyone.

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but North Korea had one third of its entire population bombed and napalmed out of existence by the American air force during the Korean War, so one might forgive them for being a little paranoid about imperial intentions toward them. Their current development of a viable nuclear deterrent has been prompted by an understandably defensive mindset given the decades of belligerent threats and genocidal economic sanctions by the USA and it’s colonized South Korean proxy. As for the nuclear question, don’t forget the USA has over 5,000 of the damn things to terrorize everyone with, so it’s funny how the USA seems so determined to prevent any of it’s prospective military targets from acquiring the reciprocal means to defend themselves.

    It really does appear to me that the existential defensive postures of targeted nations is habitually projected as “aggression” to justify the American imperial mindset for global domination. The fundamental question remains – why???

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Rurik
    , @MarkinLA
  38. @Awash

    You seem to have personal animosity toward a helpless minority.

    If you believe I have stated something in error or which is motivated by animosity, then point it out.

    Given the extended trickle-fed mainstream news campaign on the subject and the very long track record of those same media, together with a historical separatist movement in Xinjiang coupled with the alleged involvement of Chinese Uyghurs in the CIA proxy ISIS, I choose not to accept the veracity of the official Western narrative at face value.

    • Replies: @Antiwar7
  39. Han Chinese have been moved into the region to swamp the local population of Turkic and Muslim Uighurs and Kazakhs and bring about the demographic change Beijing desires.

    Only that the facts show that the Uighur population had been rising much quickly than the Han population.

    • Replies: @Anon99
  40. Renoman says:

    Mike is nuts, China and India have plenty of cannon fodder without the USA adding it’s monstrous stupidity to the situation.

  41. @Hillbob

    The US companies hired them. They were cheaper.

    If the US companies are stopped from bringing Indians to the USA, they’ll increase movement of the jobs to India.

    It’s called capitalism.

    A few years back, one of the Australian banks advertised that they weren’t moving IT jobs to India. They bought an Indian bank and the IT work was done there. Apparently, there are companies that want to make profits that are as large as possible. I’m not surprised; are you?

    I don’t care because I don’t prefer Australian to Indians. If I did, I couldn’t say how to prevent that even after thinking about it seriously. There’s not much support for giving up capitalism for socialism. That sort of competition will only grow stronger as more countries educate their people. [email protected]

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    , @Showmethereal
  42. Exile says: • Website

    I’m more convinced every day that Pat is not writing these columns anymore. Ron Unz has said much the same here previously. I didn’t get the impression Ron was kidding.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  43. anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    These are well framed questions.

    No Buchananite will even attempt to answer them in good faith. Maybe they’ll shoot some squid ink, though.

  44. Rurik says:
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    It really does appear to me that the existential defensive postures of targeted nations is habitually projected as “aggression” to justify the American imperial mindset for global domination. The fundamental question remains – why???

    Germans watched as millions of the best of Ukraine were systematically starved to an excruciating death.

    Forced to watch their children die slowly and horribly in front of their own eyes by the millions. As the government of Ukraine’s goons stood by well fed, and made sure no food got to these people slated for a cruel death.

    It was because of the incomprehensible evil of these Bolsheviks, that Germany armed herself against themselves being next to be starved to death en masse. Germany had a lot of experience with that, since they were starved en masse into signing the German people into slavery at the end of the first World War, when Germany honorably laid down its arms at the Armistice, only to be betrayed and starved into submission.

    So Germany knew well of their enemy’s penchant for using lies, treachery and starvation as a weapons.

    The Nazis of Germany, were simply those Germans who were willing to fight to defend Germany from another mass-starvation/genocide, imposed by their enemies in the east and in the west.

    What a horror it must have been, to be menaced by such monsters from each side.

    But the point is, that the main psychological weapon of their enemies was (and is) the lie.

    Blame Germany for what its enemies were intending and doing. Project onto Germany, what you yourself are doing to her. As you plan Germany’s genocide, accuse them of genocide.

    This has been the modus operandi of unscrupulous fiends for centuries.

    Want to destroy a nation like Iraq- because you’re an imperial hegemon who covets more power in the region? Blame Iraq for being an imperial power unrestrained by law or reason or decency, and bomb her into submission, so that you can have complete power over her and her subdued citizens.

    Easy itz, if you control the levers of information.

    You simply use the lie.

    The lie used to destroy Germany and allow her enemies to carve her up, was that it was Germany that wanted war and aggression. Not those innocent Bolsheviks who’d recently genocided millions in the Ukraine, and only wanted fair play!

    The lie.

    Today the lie is that Israel/the U.S. are the victims, and that it’s the Palestinians who’re the terrorists, and that Israel/U.S. are just trying to protect themselves from those that would harm them!

    This is the lie of the 21st century. The lie that has been used after ((9/11)) to enslave to world to the lie.

    and just as there isn’t one in a thousand that would point out the lie vis-a-vis Germany during both world wars, so too there isn’t one in a thousand that will point out the lie of the 21st century.

    That it is Israel and its rabid dog; the U.S., that are menacing and terrorizing innocent nations and slaughtering innocent people all over the planet.

    But because this lie is enforced by weapons and sanctions and other belligerence from the PTB, few if any are willing to speak out directly against the lie.

    Russia doesn’t want all the lies exposed because it too benefits from the perpetual lies about Germany.

    Islam doesn’t want the lie exposed, because it too benefits from the lie being used to perpetually demonize Germany (and Europe) so that Muslims can continue to invade and colonize Germany (in particular) and Europe and the West in general.

    This is how alliances are made to the lie.

    Make others willing to go along with the lie, so that they too can benefit.

    Look at Erdogan’s Turkey wallowing in the lie, so that Turkey can steal more of its neighbor’s lands.

    Look at how so many billions of the world’s people all cynically go along with the cruel genocide of the Palestinians, so that they can all make common cause with global Jewish supremacism to open the West to invasion and colonization.

    This is why the ‘sainted’ MLK was a rabid Zionist. He was perfectly willing to go along with the cruel genocide of the Palestinians, because he knew that by doing so, the Zionists would advance his own agenda of Black ascendancy in the ZUS.

    That’s how the lie works.

    AOC and the Maxine Waters will stand stalwart locking arms with Chuck Schumer and his uber-racist, genocidal Zionist goons, condemning an entire people to humiliation and ethnic cleansing and oppression, so that they can eat a few anti-White crumbs tossed from Zion’s table.

    And to heap insult upon misery, they use projection, (the Palestinians are the terrorists! and they want all the Jews dead! It was Germany that wanted to control the world, as Stalin grabbed up every inch his Red Army Rapists could enslave. Saddam and Gadhafi and Iran are the aggressors and terrorists!!!)

    All vile lies, and all maintained by these devil’s alliances, where millions of Muslims go along with Erdogan for cynical reasons of their own, while Muslims in Syria and Iraq are punished under the juggernaut of lies, emanating out or the orifice of the Big Banks, and their assorted stooges in the Western media and governments.

    The fundamental question remains – why???

    Look into the nature of man, for the answer to that one.

    He isn’t created in the image of a just and loving God. No. His soul was hammered out in the caldrons and crucibles of nature, red in tooth and claw. And in that caldron, he discovered treachery as the ultimate weapon. The lie.

    And human being’s infinite willingness to go along with ‘the lie’, so long as they see their personal benefit by doing so.

  45. Rich says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    There are more American Indians alive today than were in the continental United States when Jamestown was established or the Pilgrims stepped on Plymouth Rock. The fact that the term “genocide ” is thrown around so often shows either that people aren’t that educated, or are “educated ” too well.

    • Replies: @Godfree Roberts
  46. anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:
    @Exile

    Punch “Pompeo” into the search tool, run it against Mr. Buchanan’s columns, and you’ll see what I mean by press releases.

  47. anon[847] • Disclaimer says:

    Every word that comes out of Pompeo’s mouth is a lie, including “and” and “the”.

    Tucker Carlson and the Twittersphere have been abuzz with accusations of the coronavirus being manufactured in a lab in Wuhan, purportedly through a leak by a female scientist named “Dr. Yan”. Meanwhile the NYTimes pointed out today that “Dr. Yan” herself has murky background. She was a post doc at HK University and mysteriously fled to the US recently, and that she was a member of a non-profit named “Rule of Law Society” founded by Steve Bannon.

    So it looks like Steve Bannon and the CIA have been the ones behind all the unrest in HK; this is the guy who supposedly helped Trump win so he could drain the swamp, and he was recently charged with doing some shady deals with a Chinese dissident millionaire who bribed him off to go against the government that wants to charge him for corruption. It explains why Brietbart, the Ziocon mouthpiece that he once worked at, is now the biggest China basher. Hardly a day goes by without multiple new articles about the evils of China, and they still insist on calling it the “Chinese virus”. These Ziocon warmongers will not be happy until America goes completely bankrupt going to war with the whole world.

  48. barr says:

    The federal government blows up our sacred sites, steals our kids, militarily occupies our communities, and shoots at Native Americans.”
    by
    Kenny Stancil, staff writer

    • Twelve people, including at least eight Native Americans, were arrested near an immigration checkpoint in Southern Arizona on Indigenous Peoples’ Day after United States Border Patrol agents and Arizona law enforcement officials violently repressed a peaceful action held Monday morning by roughly 30 land and water protectors.
    • The O’odham Anti Border Collective
    • organized an Indigenous prayer ceremony to voice opposition to the cultural and ecological destruction caused by the construction of President Donald Trump’s border wall.
    • After telling them to clear the roadway, Border Patrol agents, Arizona state troopers, and officers from the state’s Department of Public Safety attacked participants with tear gas and rubber bullets.

    The O’odham Anti Border Collective made the following demands:.End the checkpoints and remove all Customs and Border Protection agencies from O’odham lands;
    Immediate and indefinite discontinuation of border wall construction at Quitobaquito Springs and throughout O’odham territories; •
    Immediate demilitarization of O’odham lands;
    Remove the Integrated Fixed Towers;
    End racial profiling and harassment of Indigenous peoples;
    End incarceration and deportation of O’odham people from O’odham homelands by border patrol;
    End sexual and gender violence by border patrol;
    https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/10/13/native-americans-protesting-trump-border-wall-tear-gassed-arrested-us-agents

    What does allow USA to lecture China on Uighur?

    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
  49. @barr

    What does allow USA to lecture China on Uighur?

    Especially since the U.S. elites are playing demographic games with their own population.

  50. Anon99 says:
    @Passerby60

    We all know that facts, charts and data are meaningless for alt-righters and MSM. Someone can spew the most egregious lie and if repeated often enough it becomes truth.

  51. Petermx says:

    I did not even become aware of the US slipping to stay ahead in the technology race until the last few years. I knew for years that many students in top American universities were foreigners and that education in the US was not competitive compared to other countries but the US touted its technological expertise in high tech and biotechnology until only recently when China was revealed to be a top competitor. I think to Trump’s credit, he brought these truths out with his speeches on how he says China and others have taken advantage of the US. I am not sure they or anyone else has and I think the US did similar things to gain the technological advantage it held since 1945 but I think Trump and other Americans that put America first correctly see that the US has skipped in its lead over China and others and I think that is part of why the USA has animosity towards China. I do not think picking a fight with China will benefit the US and it could be very dangerous. This isn’t 1940 and if the US provokes a war with China they have missiles that can hit US territory.

    But I think the animosity Trump and some others show towards China is not shared by the Jewish mainstream media. While this media helped concoct a ridiculous lie that Russia is an evil enemy of the US and that Trump was a spy for Russia and almost carried out a coup against him, this same media is pro-China, a staunch defender of China and called Trump a “racist” for very wisely forbidding Chinese nationals from entering the US when the virus was spreading like wildfire in China. Of course, when Trump forbade European nationals from entering the US they had no problem with that and said nothing. I think the Jewish media’s preferences for which countries it supports or opposes is very much tied to history. Organized Jewry likes China because they are not white and they don’t like or support white or European countries. The Jewish media hates Putin because he is a nationalist (like Trump) and the Jews power is limited in Russia to wealthy Oligarchs. I do not believe they have a big influence on politics and Jews resent Putin’s support for Syria against the terrorists that destroyed the country, which the US gave support to under Jewish pressure. This is obviously done for Israel, Syria’s neighbor. And Jews support Ukraine because they now control it. They have a strong hand or even dominate politics, the media and maybe industry there too. Jews are now highly regarded in Ukraine, even leading the country after killing many millions of Ukrainians in the 1930’s. Once again, the power of the media comes thru.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  52. @SimplePseudonymicHandle

    Secondary to all of that are its universal lack of actual combat experience, where in all dimensions it stands to face veteran US adversaries.

    When was the last time the U.S. military faced a peer competitor with equal or better missile technology for example? China’s U.S. “adversaries” are only “veterans” when it comes to attacking third world countries with a limited ability to fight back.

    In a conventional standoff the entire Chinese surface fleet will be mopped up in under 3 weeks.

    Or so you luxuriously speculate, but I bet you won’t be found on any U.S. ship in the South China Sea under attack by a volley of YJ-18 supersonic cruise missiles.

  53. Rurik says:
    @Petermx

    the animosity Trump and some others show towards China is not shared by the Jewish mainstream media.

    good comment

    and your antenna is well tweaked, when it comes to understanding geo-politics.

    I’m just far more cynical than you, and I don’t believe the Trump administration would fart without Rothschild approval. If they’re looking askance at China, then it can only mean they’ve been given their marching orders.

    The J-supremacists currently have two camps; the belligerent Zio-camp of Trump, and the SJW camp of ‘wokeness’. The wokeness camp is pro-China, because as you mention, it’s a non-White nation taking jobs from Whitey.

    But the belligerent camp (Trump) is not happy about sharing Global Tech surveillance with any rival. Even China.

    at least from where I’m standing. But you do make good points.

    • Thanks: Petermx
  54. AaronInMVD says: • Website
    @GomezAdddams

    The funny thing is that this is the big differentiator in what the USG is doing versus what the Chinese are doing. How many “troop surges” has the Chinese government had to sell their public on this century? How many Chinese military interventions are going on in the Western Hemisphere? And so on.

  55. @Rich

    Does ‘American Indians’ in your case include Elizabeth Warren?

    Has the number of American Indians grown as a percentage of the population of the USA?

    China’s minorities have increased their share by 25% in the last 50 years, and are over-represented in Congress.

    • Replies: @Rich
  56. MarkinLA says:
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    North Korea both have no particular history of unprovoked unilateral military aggression

    I believe the North invaded the South. There was no such thing as North Korea before the end of WWII.

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  57. MarkinLA says:
    @Donald A Thomson

    If the US companies are stopped from bringing Indians to the USA, they’ll increase movement of the jobs to India.

    No they won’t. This has largely been a failure as the costs of the US company maintaining control far outweigh any savings from the lower priced labor. The quality is usually low resulting in constant trips back and forth to straighten things out.

    At one point this was all the rage by corporate executives but it has been throttled back due to the problems.

  58. Miro23 says:

    In a reckless provocation to China, the Trump administration has given notice of three major arms deals with Taiwan. The rocket launcher and missiles on offer are advanced attack systems. Beijing is infuriated and vows to respond.

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/503487-trump-arms-sales-taiwan/

    Taken together with many other provocations – it looks like Trump and ZioGlob/CIA world want a military conflict with China. The Chinese government/military certainly find it deeply worrying.

    The ZioGlob could in fact be preparing the ground for a China False Flag. Their media would spin it, it would keep the MIC dollars flowing, and it would usher in their much desired Emergency Government (getting rid of troublesome US democracy).

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  59. @Miro23

    Taken together with many other provocations – it looks like Trump and ZioGlob/CIA world want a military conflict with China.

    There is no other way to interpret it, IMO. The elders are desperate, and orange clown seems to be their Biblically-predicted evil messiah.

    The Chinese government/military certainly find it deeply worrying.

    And then once China is out of the way, Russia will get their full attention…all in their wet dreams.

    The ZioGlob could in fact be preparing the ground for a China False Flag.

    Speaking of that, in retrospect it looks more and more likely IMO that SARS-CoV-2 was a failed bioweapon attack against China. And plan B might have been to allow the virus to spread here and then exaggerate everything and cause as much hardship as possible…all to be blamed on China, as part of the demonization campaign leading to war.

    Their media would spin it, it would keep the MIC dollars flowing…

    The MIC dollars will flow regardless of anything; there’s always money for “defense.”

    and it would usher in their much desired Emergency Government (getting rid of troublesome US democracy).

    I agree that at some point the elders will need martial law here as they destroy what’s left of the U.S. in pursuit of their hopeless agenda.

  60. Rich says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    I’m not arguing that China mistreats its minorities, I’m not too familiar with the plight of minorities in your country. From what I’ve read on this site,minorities appear to be doing well there. There are more Indians living on reservations than were alive in the 16th century. There are also many Euro-Americans who have Indian ancestry. There was no “genocide” and most deaths were from lack of immunity to foreign diseases. The Indians gave us syphilis, so don’t think their germs didn’t try, ours were just more lethal.

    • Troll: Sya Beerens
    • Replies: @anon
  61. That would be considered Suicide….The US and China are two sides of the same coin

    China: Produces/exports/takes shit
    US: Consumes/imports /talks shit

    The Supervile Muslims must be out of style….

    • Troll: Rich
  62. Piglet says:
    @GomezAdddams

    USA spent 740 Billion on Defense last year and this was larger than the next 40 combined.

    And aren’t most of those “next 40” allies?

  63. Piglet says:

    China, and indeed the rest of the world, looks at the USA and sees a country in which a thousand riots took place in its cities, where rioters ran amok while police and national guardsmen knelt before them, to include violence right outside the White House itself; a country rapidly racking up clearly unsustainable massive amounts of debt, a country with collapsing infrastucture, a country embracing the lowest cultures, tearing down its own statues, obliterating its own history, led by a blow-hard who may be replaced soon with a corrupt old goat who is clearly mentally declining, to then be replaced by a woman whose only claim to fame is sleeping her way to the top; a country with military leadership that is increasingly “woke” and not supportive of their own leader, in charge of a military that has floundered in its overseas blunders.

    As shown in John Pilger’s documentary The Coming War on China (available on YouTube), an attack on China has been in the works for many years; however, the USA is now circling the drain and all the Chinese need to do is wait us out. They don’t need to engage the USA in a war. It is defeating itself.

    • Troll: Sya Beerens
  64. ‘War’ means à certain Superpower drops bombs on poor brown powerless small folk south of the equator

    The rest is Supercoward’s propaganda

  65. Albertde says:
    @robert scheetz

    I can’t understand what makes you or other Amerticans think that a future war is going to be over there when Putin has already said that in any future war involving Russia (and I doubt China will be any different) is going to include attacking the decision centres promoting the war. Let me spell it out for you – that means Washington, DC (seat of US Federal Government), NYC (Wall Street-economic centre) and Los Angeles (Hollywood-US propaganda centre).

  66. Chinaman says:

    This whole article is bizarre.

    Xi declared that Beijing’s policy of eradicating the ethnic and religious identity of the minorities of Xinjiang through state-driven education has proven “totally correct.”

    Whatever is happening in Xinjiang, it is magnanimous compared to the bombing of sand niggers back to stone-age, and directly and indirectly killing 1-2 million Muslims in Iraq and Syria. Not to mention all the atrocities that the crusaders have committed against Muslims in a 1000 years. It is ok to virtue signal but it is absolutely unbearable to the crusaders cry crocodile tears for Muslims.

    Our rejection of China’s claims to virtually all of the reefs and atolls in the South China Sea is also being ignored. Beijing’s warnings grow louder and more pointed as the U.S. continues to

    America rejection of China’s claim ? Ok, China also rejects the claims of white people on Native Indian’s land. Who the fuck do you guys think you are to reject China’s claim on the south CHINA sea? It is called the South CHINA sea, not the Gulf of Mexico, you dumbass!

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  67. @Donald A Thomson

    Indeed… IBM already has more jobs in India than the US now.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  68. MarkinLA says:
    @Showmethereal

    IBM stopped being a leading technology company about 25 years ago. Now they sell services. They are probably involved with sales and installation of services.

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  69. d dan says:

    “Is War with China Becoming Inevitable?”

    No, it isn’t because US is good in bully the weak but afraid of the strong, and China is too strong.

    In 2017, after firing over 100 missiles into Syria, a journalist asked Pentagon, “why did we attack them?”
    Pentagon: Because we suspect they have WMD.
    Journalist: Then we didn’t we attack North Korea?
    Pentagon: Because we believe they have WMD.

    rephrased from 金灿荣

  70. vox4non says:

    The USA has been having a whale of a time riding roughshod over the rest of the world for the last half century, and it has been addicted to the money and guns. Now facing a near-peer hegemon, the US will lash out using one reason or another. For the rest of the world, the question is whether it will bring out the demise of everyone else.

  71. anon[201] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rich

    Yes right you are . Vietnamese gave us malaria . May be we should put whites on the reservation and let them multiply and erase any concerns .

    • Replies: @Rich
  72. @MarkinLA

    Actually a lot of it is engineering. IBM actually still gets the most patents of any US company each year. Much of the patents are produced in Asia (India and China especially).

  73. @Godfree Roberts

    Not to mention many non-Chinese (many Muslims included) travel to Xinjiang and post videos of their trips showing that they don’t believe western media any more because while security is tight (obviously because of terror attacks) – they see no real repression at all.

  74. @Awash

    Helpless minority??? Many individual people visit XInjiang to debunk wester propaganda. I just chose this one (see below)… A Muslim girl from Malaysia who went to check it out. As she notes – as a foreigner she is allowed to wear a hijab – but local women can’t. That’s literally the only thing anyone could find to complain. Except – other nations banned the hijab too. Are they oppressing Muslims too?

    • Thanks: Ultrafart the Brave
  75. @MarkinLA

    There was no such thing as North Korea before the end of WWII.

    True, neither North Korea nor South Korea existed until the end of Exercise WWII.

    FWIW, South Korea’s formative years were under the brutal rule of a US-installed puppet dictator, which has over the decades evolved into an industrial powerhouse with increasingly democratic leanings and growing resistance to the effectively ongoing US occupation. Similar in some ways to Japan.

    Meanwhile, North Korea started out as a Soviet-sponsored Marxist dictatorship which has persisted as a charismatic dynasty to the present day.

    Two idealogically opposed camps, birthed at the conclusion of Exercise WWII and the onset of the Cold War.

    As to who started the Korean War, I’ll keep an open mind on that one, although I admit I have a certain skeptical bias (eg, http://911review.com/articles/anon/false_flag_perations.html).

    Despite all those considerations, the US and South Korea stand out a mile as the aggressors on the Korean peninsula today, with the US clearly agitating for any excuse to once again bomb North Korea back to the stone age and finally take over the whole peninsula – presumably as part of the American strategy of completely surrounding Russia (and now China) with an empire of military bases.

    So, again, is it any wonder North Korea has taken steps to arm itself with the means to deter American aggression? And in this case, as emphatically demonstrated by the fates of Iraq, Libya and now Syria, the feared aggression is real, not a projection.

    • Agree: showmethereal
  76. @Chinaman

    This whole article is bizarre.

    I think you summed it up pretty well.

    The self-righteousness of articles like this one, despite the outward appearance of objectivity, is a little hard to take.

    It all comes across like an impartial discussion of the tactics and game plan of a serial killer selecting his next victim. Maybe we should avoid that particular victim until a better opportunity arises, or we might suffer some injury. That target is a bit too assertive, let’s look for an easier mark.

    Inherent but dispassionate complicity in the imperial crime spree.

    America rejection of China’s claim?

    If it wasn’t so blatantly outrageous it would be comical.

    Why is it that Western “news” agencies, in reporting on American “freedom of navigation exercises” conducted “in accordance with the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea”, never EVER mention that the USA is not even a party to the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea because the USA itself refuses to be held accountable to it?

    Breathtaking hypocrisy on a planetary scale.

    • Thanks: Rurik
  77. DinoN says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    Muslims have by now realized what is an American HUG! It is not Love but a Choke hold. This goes for all 3rd World Countries too.

    • Replies: @Meena
  78. Antiwar7 says:
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    The Gray Zone has some good articles debunking the Uyghur stories:
    https://thegrayzone.com/tag/uyghurs/

    • Thanks: Ultrafart the Brave
  79. Meena says:
    @DinoN

    India is a now a live clinical demonstration to understand how Zio-Ameruca influences a country ,how it makes India believe that India is special ,powerful, and above all ,how the country is culturally historically ideologically closer to USA ,the west and to the civilized society . India is flooded with flattery, hopes, dreams and it’s history culture political practices are validated ensuring the status quo for the elite and dispelling any doubt the voters might have about the leaders.

    The whole project is to goad India fall into ant -Chinese line .

    Indian leaders cater to the needs of the voting blocks connected by caste language geography and by transactional relationships . leaders are no aberration .They are not removed from the historical practices of earlier leaders .No one in India has cared for the citizen for centuries . India is internally colonized . These leaders see more opportunities in extracting from the larger pool of the citizen living in poverty illiteracy ill health and ignorance . This impoverished sections fall for the religious slogan and manufactured religion animosities . This section ignore the realities they are forced to live in . This section fall for the emotional manipulation and turn out to be victims of negligence which is of their own making . USA can see the criminal behaviors of the leaders .USA ignores and often supports these criminal leaders in exchange for allowing USA enter the market shape the politics and buy weapons . When necessary , it asks to provide soldiers and ammunitions and the lands to fight American wars. Now it is India rising against Chinese system – that is the sales pitch from USA.

    In 1980 Pakistan and Afghanistan carried water for USA against Soviet .

  80. Frederick says:

    Chine is already waging war against us.
    Biological war- covid 19
    Economic war- trade, and communist democrats shutting down our economy.
    Chemical war- fentanyl, and meth inundation.
    5th column war- arming blm/antifa.
    Psychological war- the fake news, and owned media.
    Regular war- troops in Canada, and Mexico.
    War by proxy- israel, and the drug cartels.
    Organized crime war- clinton, and biden chinese owned crime families.
    So the question is- when do we get off our sorry asses, and fight back?

    • Replies: @Chinaman
  81. Chinaman says:
    @Frederick

    Regular war- troops in Canada, and Mexico.

    Yes. This was all discssued in the “100 year plan” to replace America. What you don’t know is that the CCP have been funding a secret society called “Hauching” made up of the descendants of San Francisco Chinaman in 1800 who are still pissed about the Chinese Exclusion Act. They have planned this revenge for the last 100 years.They are 200,000 strong and they plan to invade the heartlands from the West and I have seen maps where California will be renamed New Beijing. The date I have been given is Christmas 2020 as the height of the 2nd wave and the whole country is overwhelmed.

    I think it is a bit too late to fight back but it is not too late to learn mandarin.

  82. antibeast says:

    The US Deep State better come up with something better than the “QUAD” which consists of four misfits, as follows:

    1. USA — aging population who can’t afford to pay off their medical debts while living under a dysfunctional society, moribund economy and corrupt politics.
    2. Japan – aging population who don’t have enough people to take care of their old people while living under a xenophobic society, stagnant economy and corrupt politics.
    3. Australia — aging population who don’t want to work while living under a dysfunctional society, resource-extractive economy and corrupt politics.
    4. India — overpopulated country with lots of poor people trapped in an oppressive caste system, protectionist economy and corrupt politics.

    The USA, Japan and Australia should worry more about how to take of their aging populations while India should spend more time and money taking care of its poor people.

    • Replies: @Showmethereal
  83. @antibeast

    Yes but you just described why they all roped in India into the Quad. India has a lot of young poor bodies to conscript and throw into a fight. Remember the Brits were using Indians against China all the way back in the Opium Wars. They used Indians in their “concessions” in Chinese cities during the century of humiliation. Of course the times are ver5 different now – but Indians dont seem to aware of it. They have the most bellicose and war hungry media i have seen. And they truly believe they are a super power with help of the Hindu “spirits”. Read the comments section on Indian news or even Youtube channels. Its “scary” how far out there a lot of them are. They truly believe they could walk in and destroy China. They seem all to eager to be used as missile fodder for the Anglos.

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