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Last week, sources leaked to The New York Times that, in Ukraine’s targeting and killing of Russian generals and the sinking of Russia’s Black Sea flagship, the Moskva, U.S. intelligence played an indispensable role.

Apparently, our intel people identified and located for the Ukrainian forces what became the targets of their deadly attacks.

Why U.S. intelligence would do this seems inexplicable.

By claiming credit for Ukraine’s most visible military successes, we diminish the achievements of that country’s own forces.

By bragging publicly that we helped engineer the killing of Russian generals and the sinking of the cruiser Moskva, we taunt Russian President Vladimir Putin. We provoke him into retaliating in kind against us, thereby raising the possibility of a wider U.S.-Russia war that could escalate into World War III.

Moreover, U.S. boasting like this plays right into Putin’s narrative that Russia is facing and fighting in Ukraine a U.S.-led alliance that is out to crush Russia.

Indeed, why are we going beyond assistance to the Ukrainians in defending themselves, into making this American’s war?

When Speaker Nancy Pelosi arrived in Poland following her visit to Kyiv, she virtually embraced the idea of the Ukraine-Russia war as now being America’s war, declaring, “America stands with Ukraine. We stand with Ukraine until victory is won.”

Accompanying Pelosi to Kyiv was a delegation of House Democrats, one of whom, Rep. Jason Crow of Colorado, echoed Pelosi in Poland:

“The United States of America is in this to win.”

Their visit followed that of Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, who came out of Kyiv and declared the U.S. strategic goals in Ukraine’s war:

“We want to see Russia weakened to the degree that it can’t do the kind of things it has done in invading Ukraine.”

These statements by U.S. leaders reinforce Putin’s line that Russia is besieged by a U.S.-led Western alliance that fears and detests Mother Russia and wishes to see her defeated and diminished.

Our enemies in the West who seek to destroy Russia are like those we fought in the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945, Putin now claims. And intervention in Ukraine was necessary to prevent today’s neo-Nazis from dragging Ukraine into their larger conspiracy to destroy Russia.

Consider Putin’s words of a week ago:

“The forces that have always pursued a policy of containing Russia … do not want such a huge and independent country that is too big for their ideas … They believe it endangers them simply by the fact of its existence, although this is far from reality. It is they who endanger the world.”

We are hated for who and what we are, says Putin. And our military operation is an act of legitimate self-defense against the same kind of “Nazi filth” we fought in the Great Patriotic War.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov describes the recent surge in heavy Western weapons shipments to Ukraine as “NATO … going to war with Russia through a proxy and arming that proxy.”

By cutting Republicans out of her delegation to Kyiv, Pelosi appears to want to make the war not only America’s war, but her party’s cause.

ORDER IT NOW

That seems to be a motive as well behind Biden’s consciously exceeding any Western leader in the language he uses on Putin, calling him a “killer,” a “murderous dictator,” a “pure thug,” a “butcher,” a “war criminal,” guilty of “genocide,” who “for God’s sake … cannot remain in power.”

Such language is designed to showcase Biden as the world’s leading anti-Putinist and the most morally outraged of all the world’s leaders at what Russia is doing in Ukraine.

But, again, like the public boasting of U.S. intel agents over our role in the sinking of the Moskva and killing of the Russian generals, the effect is to disqualify the U.S. president from any role in negotiating a truce or an end to this war.

How do we benefit from having no leader-to-leader communication with the Kremlin, which President John F. Kennedy retained in the Cuban missile crisis to end it?

NATO Europe, which is supporting the Ukrainian resistance, is not on board with the U.S. plans to cripple Russia permanently.

America needs to recognize that our objectives in this war are not the same as Ukraine’s.

President Volodymyr Zelenskyy would like to have the U.S. plunge in and fight alongside Kyiv, devastate and defeat the Russian army, and expel Russia not only from the regions invaded this year but also from Crimea, which Putin annexed in 2014 .

America’s vital interests in this war, however, are to prevent it from becoming a U.S.-Russia war or a third world war or a nuclear war.

The U.S. goal of imposing a crushing defeat of Russian aggression is secondary to our far more vital interest in avoiding a U.S.-Russia war.

America’s interests are best served by an early and negotiated peace. Such a goal rules out imposing humiliating terms on Russia, which cause Moscow and Putin to escalate militarily — to survive politically.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

 
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  1. Rurik says:

    that Russia is facing and fighting in Ukraine a U.S.-led alliance that is out to crush Russia.

    duh

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @JR Foley
  2. USA1943 says:

    It is also about USD Hegemony and keeping the reserve currency For the USA

  3. This war is a US war. It has been from its onset back in 2014.

    Moreover, the US do not wage war on Russia but on its European allies. Russia being the hammer, Ukraine the nail. That nail that will end in Europe’s head. This is not the first time but it probably will be the worst.

    Buchanan has a habit of relaying US propaganda and deception in its worst aspects. This article certainly takes the price.

    Let me repeat: This war is a US war

    • Replies: @Parfois2
  4. The current US war in Ukraine has been a (((US))) war since 2014, if not earlier. Russia wanted to stay out of it, but the USers kept pushing.

    • Agree: Max Maxwell
    • Replies: @Charles Martel France
  5. meamjojo says:

    “Moreover, U.S. boasting like this plays right into Putin’s narrative that Russia is facing and fighting in Ukraine a U.S.-led alliance that is out to crush Russia.”

    All your base are belong to us!

  6. Developments are beginning to meet all the conditions for WW III, the conflict opposing sides have not been able to fight since the beginning of the atomic age. Yet that is the direction mankind is headed, deaf as always to the pleading of history.
    https://patternofhistory.wordpress.com/

    • Replies: @Luke Lea
  7. Wokechoke says:

    First these politicians crushed the American people, now they intend to enslave the American people into waging war on these Russians.

    It could not be stated simpler.

    The behavior of the French and British public will be interesting to note. They will determine much of the European response to the situation.

  8. nickels says:

    Might want to get out of Washington DC unless you like 5000 deg F.

  9. Renoman says:

    Ya it’s a US war and always has been, it’s gonna cost you way more than you thought and it might just sink you and for what? Feed the Arms rats? What a lousy excuse to kill people, you should be ashamed.

  10. Altai says:

    NATO Europe, which is supporting the Ukrainian resistance, is not on board with the U.S. plans to cripple Russia permanently.

    NATO Europe
    France and Germany

    Fixed that for you. The UK and ‘New Europe’ are fully onboard with chasing down Russia to any end. Much of the rest of ‘Old Europe’ that is in NATO isn’t really gunning as hard but have as yet to form a coalition to argue against it.

  11. Mr Biden and US Government have no intention of an early end to the war; the US wants to bleed Russia dry; they have steadfastly refused to consider diplomacy; Mr Zelenskyy is foolish if he believes America will burn for Ukraine; he and his country are being used in a proxy war against Russia; Ukraine should ask itself; what good has aspiring to join NATO done or its alliance with USA. in 2014 the US with the Maidan revolution caused the loss of Crimea and because Mr Biden refused Mr Putins reasonable security guarantee requests Ukraine is being destroyed. Secretary Austin saying door is still open to Ukraine is an insult when thousands of Ukrainians are being killed and it is well known Ukraine will never be admitted into NATO. Mr Putin is in a trap. The most he can accomplish now it seems is to conquer Donbass and build a land bridge to Crimea. Capturing Black sea coast and Odessa and reaching Moldova appear beyond capabilities of Russian military. Using nuclear weapons would bring no good options and a war with US/NATO would destroy Russia. Mr Putin would appear to have no good options. Even if he conquers Ukraine he would have a huge country of over 40 million constantly rebelling and killing Russian troops.

    • Replies: @Gordon Keeble
    , @JL
  12. Protogonus says: • Website

    It is by design that Russia has no good options, for the goal is the end of Russia as a national power in Eurasia, along with its independent foreign policy in the Middle East. The Russians themselves don’t quite get what is happening and why. A darkness surrounds the Spirit of Russia.

    Indeed, what is the nature of the dark power now suddenly emerging into visibility after centuries of machinations and warmongering in the shadows? Who or what has been around that long? What is the motivation? The answer will actually come as no surprise to Unz.Com readers:

    https://www.academia.edu/76372363/To_Sevastopol_With_Love

  13. Phibbs says:

    I was in the U.S. military and used to be a proud American. Now, I hope President Putin launches tactical nukes on every single Israeli-Occupied Government, Israeli and NATO base in existence.

  14. Americans have to pay high taxes, year in/out, in order to support

    • endless US “covert” military, and other interventions, abroad.
    • massive public education, and other forms of welfare, at home.

    The swamp in action.

    • Agree: Max Maxwell
    • Replies: @anonymouseperson
  15. Ryan says:

    Especially at the point in which one “side” of the war has no economy or arms industry, and is effectively defeated but for its ability to provide cannon fodder for a foreign power.

  16. Cookie says:

    The U.S has been after a new cold war for a long time, the economy is based on war.

    What the U.S has done in assisting Ukraine in intelligence in targeting Russian high ranking officers and shipping is to have made the world a dangerous place for American high ranking officers and assets as Russia will now increase its assistance to the U.S enemies.

    So you get the public control measure of a cold war so as to try and unite a nation that is a nation only in name.

    The states who don’t like the way the U.S is developing should seriously look to go their own way.

    • Agree: JR Foley
  17. anon[180] • Disclaimer says:

    The U.S. goal of imposing a crushing defeat of Russian aggression is secondary to our plan and program to fart unicorn rainbow sparkles.

    Pat, when are you gonna fire that intern? Anybody who takes US state victory shit seriously is a moron.

    The US has a role. It is to lose. It is to get humiliated and discredited as a great power, arms supplier, or ally. It is to be a figure of fun for the civilized world.

    You guys need to stop pretending this regime gives a shit what you think. It does not. It has all the deliberative capacity of Gadafy with a bayonet up his asshole. You need to help it collapse and expire.

  18. @Phibbs

    Any soldier in the US military today is just a chump and NOT defending America.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
  19. Any ideas about how USUKgermany is going to sneak a tank, for example, into Ukraine without Russia seeing it and blowing it up before it gets off the trolley? How small do these “advanced weapons” have to be to make them invisible?

  20. JR Foley says:

    Leonid Kravchuk has croaked and will Biden attend his funeral?

  21. Luke Lea says:
    @peter mcloughlin

    From the very dawn of civilization when conquest first began, history has been little else than the story of warring states in a relentless competition for power. Indeed, conquest is the original sin that dare not speak its name. In the following essay I hypothesize in great detail, convincingly I think, that the Adam and Eve myth was originally conceived as a political allegory about military conquest, made possible by the invention of agriculture (the neolithic revolution). If my hypothesis is true, it means that the story of Adam and Eve began its life in the oral history of a primitive people who suddenly found themselves on the bottom of society, making it the oldest human verbal artifact extant:

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/10q-cx2v05UnAsHb9BaRBZqYtPljiMZ52h6UxvHj0duA/edit?usp=sharing

  22. @Max Maxwell

    Ukraine being prepared to be the new Israel.

  23. anon[128] • Disclaimer says:

    Of course it’s a US proxy war, years in planning. The whole idea is to weaken Russia through a prolonged war and economic sanctions. Next up is Taiwan, to weaken China. Jews have been at this game for centuries, first in Europe now on a world stage. With each war there’s plenty of financial rewards, billions in “aid” to the war torn country where no one knows who that money goes to or what it buys, billions more going to the MIC, plus war sells news, and of course they also make a killing on the financial and commodities markets.

  24. The US regime is “in to win” because it wants to hand Ukraine back to Kolemoisky and other unelected oligarchs, the ‘rootless cosmopolitan’, dual passport plantation owners who fled the country back in February.

    Then, rape the land and resources to pay back for the lend-lease weapons. The oligarchs would kick back millions to reward the politicians who made it happen, namely the Biden Democrat cronies.

    It’s a war over the spoils.

  25. Parfois2 says:
    @archie bald

    “This war is a US war. It has been from its onset back in 2014.”

    From back in 1917 actually, with a short interlude back in 1942-45 because of a masterstroke to destroy Europe as a competitor, sort of a northern Monroe Doctrine.

  26. JR Foley says:
    @Phibbs

    I hear what you say and the reason I am so angry with USA and Canada –not the average main street hardworking man and woman attempting to make a living but the scum sitting in DC and Ottawa with a HUGE access to big money and are Corrupt–from head to toe. A tactical nuke over Trudeau ( Nazi convert) and Amtrak Joe —well deserved.

  27. reading says:

    of course. This is the holy war of the God of democracy and freedom America as God How can you escape God’s duty?

    Those who believe in democracy and freedom are not guilty of murder Let’s drink to the God of democracy and freedom

  28. The (((West))) is leading Ukraine down the primrose path, and the end result is that Ukraine is going to be wrecked (Mearsheimer, 2015).

    Pretending otherwise, in public, to avoid smears and mainstream media bans is part of the problem.

    The Kremlin could do the same with the Real IRA and others. In 1973 ETA, the Basque separatist group, assassinated Prime Minister Luis Carrero Blanco (Spain). José María Aznar and Thatcher (Provisional IRA) survived.

    Those who are messing up countries also gave us pyramid credit, the crash of 2007/2008, and ‘too big to fail’ great swindle.

    One doesn’t need instructions from opportunistic CCP/CPC mandarins in Beijing or ‘Death to America’ affiliation or commie ‘traitor’ credentials to highlight the bleeding obvious.

  29. Ret. Col. Douglas MacGregor and Paul Craig Roberts note that Poland may well move into western Ukraine on invitation from Kiev.

    Such an intervention would set the stage for direct confrontation with Russia.

    The 👹west👺 is not just courting nuclear war, it’s begging for it.

  30. JL says:
    @Max Maxwell

    Even if he conquers Ukraine he would have a huge country of over 40 million constantly rebelling and killing Russian troops.

    No. First of all, the population of Ukraine is now only about 30 million. Secondly, you either forget, or never knew, that this was first and foremost, a civil war. As such, the easterners will run the country (or territory), like before, after the war, there is no need for Russian occupation. These guys have a pretty big chip on their shoulders, so I don’t doubt they will employ whatever level of brutality is needed to keep any potential troublemakers in line.

  31. hum says:

    Buchanan, the war in Ukraine was always America’s war; like most other wars.

  32. @Badger Down

    Is Ukraine’s War Now America’s War?

    The War has been an American proxy war starting from 2014 but it is now becoming more than clear – through the US economic,military and political support to Zelensky – that the Ukranian war is becoming America’s war. That is why it makes a lot of sense to worry about WWIII which could be brought about by three characterwise similar individuals like Biden,Blinken and Nuland.

    Biden wants to die and take many people with him. The question is this : who is going to stop him?

    I hope Mr Buchanan is going to be more vocal in the coming months.

  33. Atle says:

    My guess is that this will eventually go nuclear.

  34. RobinG says:
    @Rurik

    “Duh” is right.

    archie: This war is a US war. It has been from its onset back in 2014.

    Badger: The current US war in Ukraine has been a (((US))) war since 2014, if not earlier. Russia wanted to stay out of it, but the USers kept pushing.

    Parfois2: From back in 1917 actually, with a short interlude back in 1942-45

    Bingo. Now, this headline looked promising, like some reality was being leaked. But then it’s such a concoction of truth and absurd disinfo and hawkishness, very sad. But what can we expect, after “ten years as a U.S. diplomat.”
    Ukraine Is in Worse Shape than You Think
    https://time.com/6176748/ukraine-war-economy/

    • Replies: @Rurik
  35. rgl says:

    I wonder if Mr. Buchanan reads the tripe his ghostwriters produce.

    Is Ukraine’s War America’s War?

    Of course it is. And has been since the end of WW2. There was a brief armistice during the ‘Eltsin Years’, after the collapse of the USSR, but even then Russia was a target for theft and exploitation.

    As long as Russia exists as a free, independent nation, there can be no peace between the US and Russia. Russia only wants Russia. The US wants the world. Russia (and China), and a host of lesser lights are determined not to be swallowed whole by the US blob.

    As long as there are those willing and able to withstand the US, a state of war will exist. Perhaps not always overt, but ongoing nonetheless. America has been at war for something like 95 percent of it’s entire existence. If there is a war anywhere in the world, you can bet US fingerprints are all over it.

    Yes. Ukraine’s war is America’s war. As is Syria’s. As is Iraq’s. The US Army. Coming to a country near you.

  36. JR Foley says:
    @Rurik

    Every war has USA involved –no War = No economy and No War = No religion—-

    • Replies: @Rurik
  37. Rurik says:
    @RobinG

    from your link

    It is worth remembering that Ukraine has been fighting a Russian invasion since 2014. Between 2014 and February 2022, almost 10,000 were killed in the simmering war in the Donbas,

    obviously trying to imply that those 10,000 were killed by Russian forces, when it’s basically the opposite of the truth, that most of those 10,000 were Russian-speaking civilians killed by Ukro-Nazis trying to provoke Russia by murdering innocent people.

    The depths of rancid dishonesty reeks,

    I often find myself praying that there is a karma, and divine justice in this world or the next, for all rotten lying scum.

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @anon
  38. Rurik says:
    @JR Foley

    Every war has USA involved –no War = No economy and No War = No religion—-

    Not quite that one-sided, but I get your point.

  39. RobinG says:
    @Rurik

    Are you familiar with the Dreizin Report? Someone shared this with me. Seems like a useful source. Some internal detailed reporting, such as, “Take a look at these gas station lines in the Kiev area, over the last few days…”

    https://thedreizinreport.com/2022/05/15/russia-helps-the-ukraine-meet-its-emissions-reduction-targets/

  40. anon[286] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    Thank you Rurik. With a handle like yours, I expect some more aggressive Russophile positing from you. Otherwise, you are not worthy of the handle. Get to work. 🙂

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