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When the Electoral College meets Monday, it will almost surely certify former Vice President Joe Biden as the 46th president of the United States. And he will take the oath of office Jan. 20.

There is, nationally, a growing if grudging realization of that reality.

Yet millions of Americans will refuse to accept the legitimacy of that election and its outcome and will continue to believe, with President Donald Trump, that it was “rigged.”

“Was the 2020 election stolen by the establishment to get rid of a president, Donald Trump, whom it loathed?” will be debated decades hence — as are questions such as, “Did FDR have advance knowledge the Japanese were going to attack?” and, “Did Lee Harvey Oswald act alone in Dallas?”

That perception that something was afoot first arose in the minds of millions in the hours after the election on Nov. 3, when 83% of Republicans polled by Gallup said they did not believe reports of Trump’s defeat.

Things perceived as real are real in their consequences.

And there was justification for that perception. Who was not stunned to learn that as Trump seemed to be pulling ahead in the voting count on Nov. 3, suddenly, around midnight, the vote counting appeared to stop in the crucial swing states, and we were told it would begin again early the next morning? Why the halt?

Again, things perceived as real are real in their consequences.

The Washington Post reports this week that, midway between Election Day and Inauguration Day, only 27 congressional Republicans would acknowledge Biden’s win. Some 220 GOP members of the House and Senate — 88% of Republicans serving in Congress — would not say who won the election.

And Trump continues to fight on, millions behind him, to persuade public officials in such battleground states as Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Georgia, Arizona and Nevada to withdraw their certifications.

He is said to be working the phones to get Republicans in Congress to reject the designation of Biden as president.

He has joined a suit by 17 states’ attorneys general to have the Supreme Court accept Texas’ argument that late alterations in the voting processes in four swing states be declared unconstitutional and illegal.

Among the more credible charges is that, due to the pandemic, late changes were made in the voting processes of states, especially with mailed-out and mailed-in ballots. The contention is that votes cast as a consequence of changes done contrary to state laws or constitutions should be thrown out. Most of those votes came from the urban precincts where Biden’s margins were massive.

While some 50 lawsuits filed in Trump’s cause may have been rejected in courts, the hourly allegations of fraud in the collection and counting of ballots have given credence to a generalized belief that Trump was cheated of votes he received and Biden received votes that were illicitly cast.

Where will this leave us Jan. 20?

ORDER IT NOW

American politics will be even more poisoned and polarized than it has been for the last four years. Tens of millions of Americans will see themselves as disfranchised and believe that the greatest champion they have had in decades was illegally driven from power by the same deep state-media conspiracy he fought for four years.

Reinforcing this perception is the sudden revelation this week that Biden’s son Hunter is indeed the target of a federal tax investigation.

That is a story the mainstream media not only refused to cover but sought to bury. And it further buttresses a widespread belief that the mainstream media were in the tank for Biden and will use the power they have to fix the outcome of future American elections in favor of the establishment to which they belong.

For scores of millions of Americans, the mainstream media have lost any credibility and moral authority they once had.

The media have spent four years promoting the falsehood that Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump conspired to steal the 2016 election, a charge for which the two-year Robert Mueller investigation could not find any substance at all. They championed the cause of impeachment of Trump over a single comment in a phone call to the president of Ukraine.

And all the while, they painted Trump as racist, sexist, homophobic and treasonous, and his followers as torch-carrying deplorables.

The hypocritical calls from the mainstream media today for us all to come together, after the atrocities they perpetrated, boggle the mind.

Amazing. And now that the Democrats appear to have captured the White House, the message is, “Can’t we all just get along?”

What lies ahead?

Some see secession. But though secession is unlikely, a secession of the heart has already taken place in America. We are two nations, two peoples seemingly separated indefinitely. Can a nation so divided as ours, racially, ideologically, religiously, still do great things together, as did the America of days gone by, to the amazement of the world?

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

Copyright 2020 Creators.com.

 
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  1. All men created equal but we need that Electoral College –therefore man is not craeeted equal. A selcct 1% runs the show and is currently in DC spending or money –feeding us Bullshit and have done f all for main steet for 45 years and tell us we are entirled? Fime for change –take them ALL out and give them the Romaoov treatment –all parasites living of our backs !!!

  2. Convenience voting in general (not just unsolicited, mail-in ballots) is the problem.

    Relax. The Republicans will do nothing about it. They don’t want to be accused of trying to limit voting rights (racism!), nor do they want to stop our troops in Timbuktu from voting.

    The best (worst) they can do is to accuse DEM ballot counters of not matching signatures.

    Pathetic.

    [MORE]

    Oh, and bring back the poll tax. $375 per off-year election ($1,000 for presidential elections) sounds about right. Redistribute the money to non-registereds.

    Based on the millions of dollars raised for election contests nowadays, the major (big government) political parties should have no problem paying for their supporters to show up.

  3. Trump supporters who assume that Mr. Buchanan is with them are mistaken. He has carefully distanced himself here from the ongoing court challenges, expressing sympathy as opposed to support.

    Reinforcing this perception [that the greatest champion they have had in decades was illegally driven from power by the same deep state-media conspiracy he fought for four years] is the sudden revelation this week that Biden’s son Hunter is indeed the target of a federal tax investigation.

    That is a story the mainstream media not only refused to cover but sought to bury. And it further buttresses a widespread belief that the mainstream media were in the tank for Biden and will use the power they have to fix the outcome of future American elections in favor of the establishment to which they belong.

    Mr. Buchanan mentioned Hunter Biden in nine columns since 2019. But this is the first time since February 4, 2020. He has never said a word about the laptop emails first reported on October 14 in the New York Post.

    Speaking of “Forever Wars,” Mr. Buchanan’s previous column “What Biden’s First 100 Days Might Look Like” (December 8) for some reason wasn’t published here. It includes this Exceptional! whitewash and warmongering for Uncle Sam:

    The drawdown in U. S. troops in Afghanistan, to 2,500 by Jan. 15, will leave us with the smallest contingent since the U. S. plunged into that country to remake it more in our image in 2001.

    And the troop drawdown comes at a time when the Taliban control the largest swath of Afghan territory since being overthrow[n] 19 years ago. The possibility of a collapse in Kabul, chaos ensuing and the country disintegrating early in a Biden presidency cannot be ruled out.

    Would Biden be willing to preside over an American defeat similar to that in Vietnam in 1975?

    Mr. Palaverconservative is a faithful servant of the Establishment.

    • Agree: botazefa, Catdog, Thomasina
    • Troll: Emslander, Polistra
    • Replies: @Mr. Ed
  4. anonymous[591] • Disclaimer says:

    I support secession of the South and Texas from the United States. It’s a win-win.

    • Troll: Jus' Sayin'...
    • Replies: @anon
  5. @GomezAdddams

    I’ve read your comment 3 x. it’s not satirical,
    right? What does created equal have to do w/ electoral college?
    Are we born equal,raised,fed,educated equally?
    Should we select leaders from the bottom percentile?
    Why do you want to murder parasites? They are essential,we all have them.
    Don’t know if life would exist w/o them.Breathe, relax and think…deeper.
    Were your parents alcoholics? Are you not blessed to be here ?Please be happier.

    • Replies: @GomezAdddams
  6. Not to worry … the SCOTUS will not have the nerve to state the obvious (as if ever) –
    that the elections in MI, WI, GA and PA violate the Constitution.
    What we have us instead is a full-blown Barbarossa complex developing in real time …

    Trump is gone but He is not dead, only sleeping under the (Cheyenne?) Mountain; but in times of dire need of His people He will rise and lead them to the Land of prosperity (+/- eradicate the Impure).

    – Defeated peoples everywhere have similar coping mechanisms; though Orange Man as foil is somewhat … crass. This is going to fester for a long time.

    – Any similarities to the runup to the War of Northern Aggression are no doubt purely coincidental 😛

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  7. It has been revealed to the American people that government is the enemy of the people, and that the mainstream media is their ministry of deception, along with big data, silicon valley and the organized globalist corporatist technocracy headed by Soros (The Migration Nazi) Schwab (the Transhumanist Locutus of Borg Nazi) and Gates (the Malthusian Vaccine Nazi).

    The reason that so many stalwart delusionals cling to the fantasy construct of the morally bankrupt ministry of deception is that the truth is so horrifying to them that it would be far too traumatic to accept.

    Their world is one where Trump is an evil maniac who is an incompetent, dangerous sociopathic madman. Giuliani is a hair dye bleeding criminal conspirator and the Republican party is a gaggle of gun wielding, militia forming white supremacists.

    For these far left progressives, the idea that their government wants to enslave them, and “reduce their numbers” so that elites can live in splendor forever as genetically augmented trans-humans is far too traumatic to consider. So a comforting narrative has been created for them to keep them “frightened, yet hopeful”.

    We live in a mostly fake world, with a fake republic, fake money, fake pandemics and fake values. We do sometimes see glimpses of the horror of reality, the horror of humanity and the horror of greed and corruption that truly defines our species.

    For those of us who refuse to accept it, life is hard and then we die, until none of us remain and the world suffers on. Among those who refuse to accept the great lie, we have the remnants of a Constitutional Republic, and the states and individual plaintiffs seeking to remedy the illegitimate “election” of the corrupt and demented Biden, and his maniacal, cackling, anarchist she-devil.

    We can observe how this progresses, and perhaps get a temporary reprieve from the 21st century China led tyrannical totalitarian world order, but the long range trajectory remains the same.

    Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely …

    https://roacheforque.blogspot.com/2020/11/the-battle-between-globalism-and.html

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  8. @goldgettin

    The leaders are from the bottom percentile –Biden was last in graduating class and Trump had a Jew write his college entrance exams —to attend Wharton. Rex Tillerson stated Trump has trouble with higher order reasoning ( Trump reads nothing) and Mattis stated Trump’s attention span is like an elementary school pupil’s—–this is indeed the bottom of the pickle jar. Wish H L Mencken were alive–he would have a field day along with T S Eliot–the Hollow Men are there–in DC –ruling??

    • Agree: Ugetit
    • Replies: @goldgettin
    , @Wielgus
    , @Bert
  9. Jimmy1969 says:

    The best summary of the horror show that I have ever read.

    • Agree: Emslander
  10. Wyatt says:

    All this pomp is just Trump being late to the party per usual. I said this for months. He should have had door kickers and forensic specialists ready to go on election night to catch the Democrats in the midst of fraud. Had he done that, he could have buried the Dems forever. Now, he’s hoping for a Hail Mary through the Supreme Court and putting everything on the line because of it.

    He’s still better than Biden, but nobody should forgive his unpreparedness.

  11. Andrew Anglin, perhaps the most prescient journalist working in America, predicts that Biden will resign shortly after taking office.

    https://dailystormer.su/are-they-planning-to-have-joe-biden-resign-immediately-after-he-is-sworn-in/

    • Replies: @KenH
    , @follyofwar
  12. FoSquare says:

    This is just a skimpy summary of what we already know. What’s the point?!

  13. Emslander says:

    The 2016 presidential election resulted in roughly:

    Clinton – 66 million votes.
    Trump – 63 million votes.

    Since California and most western states never check citizenship, it is probable that 5 million of Hilary’s total was from non-citizen, illegal voters. Conservative estimate.

    The population of the USA increased by only 6 million persons of all ages between 2016 and 2020.

    The 2020 presidential election supposedly resulted in:

    Biden – 81 million votes.
    Trump – 74 million votes.

    26 million more votes total in 2020 than in 2016. Is this possible in a country with a population increase of 6 million?

    Biden claims 15 million more votes than either Hilary or Obama, after campaigning mostly from his home.

    Trump had huge crowds of supporters come to rallies where he appeared and others where the only organization was spontaneous and he was not present.

    Trump increased his 2016 total by 11 million votes. This is an astounding increase for a sitting President. Considering some stories, this total may even have been diminished by biased vote counters.

    These basic numbers are all that are needed to see the scale of the Democrat fraud in the 2020 presidential election. The people know.

    • Replies: @Hans
  14. Angharad says:
    @GomezAdddams

    You must be a jew. The Romanovs, White Christian Royalty, where dethroned and slaughtered and disposed of exactly as the Talmud instructs, by vicious psychotic jews. Nicholas was going to implement reforms. The REAL butchery, starvation and mass murder occurred when the JEWS gained total power.

    A Reckoning is centuries overdue…

    • Disagree: GomezAdddams
  15. I can’t picture the author accepting, for example, that mere “allegations of fraud … [have] given credence to a generalized belief” as convincing evidence of some liberal cause he might be ranting against. The transparent weasel word hypocrisy here suggests elitist contempt for the readers’ intelligence and is exceeded only by the effectiveness of Trump’s big lie. When the marks so stubbornly refuse to accept they’ve been had, there is the handiwork of the master con man. Meanwhile, Trump has unfettered personal access to 75% of the $495 million his followed have so far contributed to his “Save America” fund, his final F U to the American people.

  16. Realist says:

    Some see secession. But though secession is unlikely, a secession of the heart has already taken place in America. We are two nations, two peoples seemingly separated indefinitely. Can a nation so divided as ours, racially, ideologically, religiously, still do great things together, as did the America of days gone by, to the amazement of the world?

    NO…this country is fucked.

    • Agree: Cauchemar du Singe
  17. Rurik says:

    He has joined a suit by 17 states’ attorneys general to have the Supreme Court accept Texas’ argument that late alterations in the voting processes in four swing states be declared unconstitutional and illegal.

    Among the more credible charges is that, due to the pandemic, late changes were made in the voting processes of states, especially with mailed-out and mailed-in ballots. The contention is that votes cast as a consequence of changes done contrary to state laws or constitutions should be thrown out. …

    Where will this leave us Jan. 20?

    that depends on what the SCOTUS does (dumbass)

    If they rule for Trump, then Trump may remain in the White House, and that could be very interesting.

    If they toss the suit out, -(I’d say likely, but with it will go the last shred of credibility for that already putrefied institution)- then the Deepstate is fully back in power. Only this time with a vengeance.

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  18. When the Electoral College meets Monday

    How can I take seriously a piece by Patrick Buchanan, whose opinions I usually respect and often share, that begins with such a gross misunderstanding of the Electoral College’s operations.

    This Monday the Electors of each state will meet in that state and cast their votes. These votes will then be certified and passed to appropriate officials including the President Pro Tem of the Senate of the United States. On 6 January 2021 that official will ultimately certify/decertify the votes of the Electoral College, count them, and either announce the President elect of the USA to Congress or in the event of a tie submit the election to the House of Representatives for a final vote.

    Those interested in a complete and unbiased description of the process can consult the Congressional Research Service’s (CRS’s) description of the process here: https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF11641.

    (For those unaware of the CRS, it is the non-partisan institution that conducts library research for Congress and advises Congress on all legal and legislative issues.)

    A partisan but nonetheless informative description of the pivotal role of the President Pro Tem of the Senate, i.e., the Vice President, may be found here: https://macris.substack.com/p/who-counts-the-votes-of-the-presidential

    • Replies: @GomezAdddams
  19. anon[715] • Disclaimer says:

    Unfortunately, this article enrages me. The past is done yet is always prologue. Confrontation with the Enemy awaits. If, for the Left, Trump was not my President, then for the Right, Biden is not my President.

    Looking at a map of the states arguing for the release of the electoral votes of Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin the possibility occurs that the beginnings of a new Confederacy may be in the making. It is unfortunate that I must use this term for the new Confederacy is not the old one, yet it is essential that the concept be used for it means that the US Government is now, again, the Union Government and Joe Biden may be its President. This is fraught with implications. There will again be two governments seeking allegiance from the population of the former United States.

    Of course direct secession is not the way to go. It was not even for the original Confederacy whose withdrawal from the US Government only served to give over the machinery of that government to the radical Republicans. They should have not claimed to secede de jure but only de facto keeping their seats in Congress and voting as a bloc to forestall action against the new born country.

    So it should be with the new Confederacy. They should strengthen their ties among one another and form a bloc in opposition to the Left creating a de facto new country which will grow in identity and strength as their battles with the Left become more pitched. But it will never declare itself a new country until very late in the day when its battles will have been won.

    Despite the possible final defeat of Trump the true battle is only beginning as the parties in opposition find themselves. We can’t just get along.

    • Replies: @Uncle Remus
  20. The scale of fraud and its obvious organization during this past Presidential election have made me truly paranoid.

    All of the Sturm and Drang over who’s to be next President may just be political theater because no one in his right mind and no sensible party establishment would want to be blamed for what’s coming over the next four years:

    The most intelligent among the Democrat and Republican establishment and Trump’s supporters must have realized that the current crises afflicting this country and the world are likely to come to a crux over the next four years, the result of at least three decades of grotesque greed, stupidity, and incompetence on the part of the USA’s and the world’s various establishments. It seems to me impossible that there’s any way out of this mess short of revolution(s) and I suspect that some among the political establishment and Trump’s supporters understand this. These people realize that winning the USA’s 2021 – 2024 Presidency is a political hot potato.

    This would play out worst for the Democrat Party. Evidence of the vote fraud that might win the White House is so palpable that close to a majority of polled Americans now believe a Biden-Harris win will be illegitimate. Even a sizable minority of polled Democrats share this opinion. If an illegitimate Biden-Harris Presidency oversees the disasters that are coming over the next four years, the Democrat Party will be screwed like no other political party in American history. Wise members of the Democrat establishment, if there are any such, may be looking for a way to dodge this bullet.

    Wise members of the Republican Party establishment, in the unlikely event there are any, may have reached a similar conclusion regarding a potential Trump victory, should Trump’s legal arguments prevail in the courts. Trump himself may realize this and his legal maneuverings may just be a ruse to position himself for a triumphant, “I-told-you-so” return in 2024.

    If the wisest members of the Democrat-Republican establishment can, I think they will work quietly behind the scenes to get the election thrown into the House of Representatives. There they can engage in surreptitious horse trading to ensure that neither Biden-Harris nor Trump-Pence wins the election. Instead some malleable pair of sacrificial lambs will gain the honor of overseeing the USA crash and burn over the next four years. Both sides will get rid of Trump. They can hope that in four years things will settle down to some kind of new, dismal order. If the Democrat establishment were really smart, they’d pick Bernie Sanders as the sacrificial lamb. As the next four years roll by, this would utterly discredit and destroy the out-of-control left wing of their party.

    OTOH, if Biden-Harris were to win, Biden would soon be deposed. The unpopular, extremely lightweight, and expendable Harris will then be set up to take the blame for the disasters the USA and world will experience over the next four years. Maybe this is the establishment’s ultimate game plan. But, if so, they haven’t allowed for a Trump resurgence in 2024. Something deep is going on here.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
    , @mike99588
  21. Chris Moore says: • Website

    Pat Buchanan has spent his career exposing the Jewish, neocon and liberal parasites, who have eagerly sold out the country and its Constitution first to Israel/Zionism and now to communist China. Trump basically voiced an echo of Buchannan’s platform, without actually carrying through on much of it, continued to sell out to Israel/Zionism for his Jewish relatives and their business interests, and only meekly put his foot down to stop the Chinese communists and their left-wing Jewish comrades and fellow travelers from completely taking over the country.

    Yet Trump still maintained Jewish advisors in his hierarchy that were fully in bed with both the Zionists and the communist plan, schizophrenia that is typical of the generations raised in the Jewish century.
    https://rense.com/general87/century.htm

    Still, I kind of hope Trump is able to stop the election theft and retain the presidency because by even giving voice to Buchanan’s platform (if not carrying much of it out) he woke up millions of Americans to the reality of Zionist and communist parasites taking over the country.

    On the other hand, if Trump loses in the courts, then maybe the sh*t will really hit the fan because “deplorable” America will realize it’s in an existential crisis. Also, the Zionists and communists will no longer have an excuse for their unconscionable abuse of the earnest left who is just looking for a fair economic shake and maybe some competence and decency from the central government.

    If those two sides were to unite, the communists and Zionists (including Republican neocons) would be absolutely crushed in short order. But before that can happen, America needs to get over its Judeophilia and its phobia of “anti-Semites” (who are really anti-parasites).

    That, really, is the key to saving the country. And if it can’t accomplish that psychological feat to make the next great stride forward, the nation is most likely finished.

    • Agree: Rurik
  22. BuelahMan says:
    @GomezAdddams

    You apparently have no idea what the Electoral College is (and why it is).

  23. @Jus' Sayin'...

    There they can engage in surreptitious horse trading to ensure that neither Biden-Harris nor Trump-Pence wins the election.

    There are a hundred legal and Constitutional reasons why that is totally impossible.

    Of course, this is the year of the impossible!

    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
  24. gay troll says:

    How anyone can still put faith in Trump after all the broken campaign promises and all the Zionist gaslighting from Q, I know not. It’s like hope and change for retards. Trump is Lucy, election fraud is the football, and Trump supporters are Charlie Brown.

    • Troll: Rurik
  25. The most relevant comment Mr. Buchanan makes in this article is, “The hypocritical calls from the main stream media today for us all to come together, after the atrocities they perpetrated, boggles the mind.” It sure does. This establishment media clearly consider the general American public to be the worlds biggest dunderheads, as they go on day and night, as if everything was perfectly normal. It’s kind of like the line in the musical “The Sound of Music”, where the new German government official says that, “Everything in Austria is the same, nothing has changed. ”

  26. KenH says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    I’ve been privately predicting that Biden will resign after about one year but maybe it will be even sooner. Kamala is Hussein Obama in drag and that’s who (((the establishment))) adores and wants calling the shots.

    • Agree: Johnny Smoggins
  27. Until the democratic party allows free speech in this country, it remains a traitorous entity, not worthy of representing Americans.

    • Agree: gay troll
    • Replies: @Cauchemar du Singe
  28. @Roacheforque

    If the people you list were really Nazis, we would be in less danger.
    A Migration Nazi would be rounding up those who do not identify as “American” (with no hyphen).
    A Transhumanist Locutus of Borg Nazi would be in charge of ridding us of parasitic bankers, and implementing massive debt free public works.
    A Malthusian Vaccine Nazi would be stomping out vaccines, promoting healthy life styles (including child bearing and rearing) and organic farming.

  29. willem1 says:

    So for the second presidential election in a row, the presumptive loser leaves scorched earth behind on his/her way out, poisoning the well for the “winner.” Perhaps “Not my President” will work twice in a row, too.

  30. Kamela started out here with a citizenship status we now know as “anchor baby”, i.e. her eligibility is debatable.

    When Biden drops and Kamela, prior to ascension, gets ruled ineligible, Nancy becomes president.

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  31. @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    Trump had the chance 3 years ago to hammer the censors and thought police inthe MSM…
    AND social media, especially Faceberg and Twitsker.
    He blew it.
    Also, why is AG Barr still AG ?
    The empire building vile lump should have been FIRED…
    1) for disinterest in Epstein deep filth
    2) failure to smash BLM and Antifa this past Summer
    3) not going after the money and its dispensers re: Blam and Antifa
    YESTERDAY for his scumbaggery re: overt, orchestrated, conspiratorial ELECTION FRAUD.

    Does Barr have “something” on Trump that keeps his fat jew ass in power ?
    “Something” like J. Edgar Hoover had “something” on EVERYBODY that kept that freak in power ?

    • Replies: @Dr. Charles Fhandrich
  32. Exador says:

    People who think the Supreme Court will save Trump, are fooling themselves. The SCOTUS showed us with DACA that it is pragmatic, not analytical. It knows that reversing the election (and it IS a reversal in the eyes of 90% of the country, thanks to the media) would cause chaos.
    They will rule to avoid that.

    • Agree: gay troll
    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  33. anon[287] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    to many blacks and non whites in tex-ass and the south. whites must live in whites only states. the whites that dont can pollute themselves and live with the non whites

    • Troll: Chris Mallory
  34. lloyd says: • Website

    In the 1980s, a Russian leader came from outside the inner circle to represent the Russian “deplorables”. You know the forgotten Russians at the waiting queues at the shops. He was destabilised by his political enemies. In 1991, a coup was engineeered by deep State and forced his resignation. Crowds blocked the Russian military from occupying the Russian Parliament and the military surrendered. Seccession happened throughout the Russian Empire as local leaders abandoned any pretence of loyalty. The Russians found themselves assaulted by minorities everywere in the Empire who revived ancient conflicts and demanded independence from the Russian Communist State. The Russian middle class was ruined by economic collapse. Pensions were obliterated. The Russian State became a global pauper. Then a strong man, Putin restored order and stability. 1991 Soviet Union. 2021 the American Empire. Thirty years exactly

    A closed mind could just believe a nutter just happened to be alone in a loft with a gun above JFK’s head. The US election is not plausible denial. It is eyes wide open.

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
    • Replies: @Anon
  35. ’Murka today reminds me of an episode of “Lost in Space,” where the mendacious stowaway, Dr. Zachary “O the pain, the pain” Smith, leads the crew on a visit to a hostile planet. Good luck.

  36. @Justvisiting

    There are a hundred legal and Constitutional reasons why that is totally impossible.

    I am anxious to have my ignorance diminished. Please provide me with four or five of these along with supporting citations.

  37. @GomezAdddams

    Very good points, though the holes go deeper.
    Biden and Pres.Trump are just faces on the cereal box.
    It’s been said that propaganda/disinformation is the #1 weapon of war.
    Sounds to me as if you’re believing the nonsense.It’s put out there
    for a reason.Don’t buy it. Good luck to us all.

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
  38. @Wyatt

    Very good points, though the holes go deeper.
    Biden and Pres.Trump are just faces on the cereal box.
    It’s been said that propaganda/disinformation is the #1 weapon of war.
    Sounds to me as if you’re believing the nonsense.It’s put out there
    for a reason.Don’t buy it. Good luck to us all.

  39. “Did FDR have advance knowledge the Japanese were going to attack?”

    Doesn’t matter. He invited them to. An oil embargo by a neutral country is not an act of war per se, but with the Lend-Lease Act we forfeited any claim to neutrality and became a belligerent.

    “Was the 2020 election stolen by the establishment to get rid of a president, Donald Trump, whom it loathed?”

    Doesn’t matter. There was undoubtedly an attempt to do so. Attempts to commit felonies are felonies as well.

    • Agree: nokangaroos
  40. @Jus' Sayin'...

    The original purpose of the Electoral College was to reconcile differing state and federal interests, provide a degree of popular participation in the election, give the less populous states some additional leverage in the process by providing “senatorial” electors, preserve the presidency as independent of Congress and generally insulate the election process from political manipulation.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  41. @nokangaroos

    They denied leave to file stating that Texas did not have standing to challenge the results of the four Defendants. Ergo, the fraud in four or five cities fucks over the whole nation.

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/121120zr_p860.pdf

    • Agree: Miro23
    • Thanks: nokangaroos
  42. @Rurik

    They held Texas lacked standing. I tried to post on Newslinks but apparently I have posted too much in that last 24 hours. Will you do it?

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/121120zr_p860.pdf

    • Replies: @Rurik
  43. Our institutions were designed for a small, isolated, non-diverse polity. With the advent of America’s Empire, these institutions have broken down. Elections n Constitutions cannot govern an Empire. The Supreme Court’s denial of the Texas suit shows that the last institution has failed. The Empire now drifts helplessly, all its institutions in ruins, nothing any longer has legitimacy. The Court’s decision is a modern Dred Scot decision, leaving nothing but secession n civil war.

  44. @Abolish_public_education

    She is not a natural born citizen as neither of her parents were citizens when she was born. But given the way the SC doesn’t give a shit about the Constitution, given today’s refusal to grant standing to Texas, probably none of the states in the country would have standing to challenge her status.

    From now on we might as well presume that no one in the country has standing to file a lawsuit anywhere.

    • Agree: mike99588, Rurik
    • Replies: @follyofwar
  45. @Sin City Milla

    The best thing for the US now would be Russian troops occupying DC. They are a Western civilization n they know much better than the befuddled American elites how to run an Empire.

    • Troll: Corvinus
    • Replies: @mike99588
  46. USA1943 says:
    @Sin City Milla

    That is why The founders put in long moratoriums in Immigration some decades long, to give the incoming groups time to assimilate, Imagine what problems we would have if their was no Moratoriums on Immigration. We are Lucky they thought of the Breaks to allow and encourage assimilation if we didn’t have that we would not be the United States we would be the Divided States.

  47. mike99588 says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    Honestly, I think Trump would be too old in 2024, and passe’.
    If the Deep Staters have not already destroyed him a la Flynn/Manafort/Roger Stone et al by ’24, and destroyed Tea Party type conservatives generally.

    Trump has 20-40 days to MAGA back the presidency with a massive sting, or go down as just a temporary Deep State anomaly after 4 years of hope porn. The US will then probably become a vassal corporatist state of China. “We” may have PTSD every time a train of box cars passes by…

    Frankly, if Zhou Biddin’ (Joe) is disqualified for high crimes, or removed from succession for treason, even with “Seal Team 6”, I’m good.

    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
  48. mike99588 says:
    @Sin City Milla

    Russian troops wouldn’t be feasible, or desirable.

    However, half a dozen well placed (bluest) city busters might be a doable, big urban renewal improvement for almost everybody else …

  49. Wielgus says:
    @GomezAdddams

    The British actor and writer Peter Ustinov thought Adlai Stevenson never became US President because he was too clever and the electorate in the USA did not warm to him.

    It seems to me the electorate everywhere tends to like amiable or apparently amiable people who do not use too many big words that make their heads hurt.

  50. Bert says:
    @GomezAdddams

    Replacing democracy with demarchy would solve that problem: pre-qualify a pool from members of the public who meet IQ and personality (no Dark Triads allowed) criteria, and then choose public officials and high-level bureaucrats randomly from this pool. Set the emoluments at a high level so that those chosen are happy to serve a multi-year term. No barrel scraping with this method, not of IQ or personality.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  51. What lies ahead?

    Exactly! Plenty of lies ahead, like the fiction that ours is a republic of free-born persons.

    You will conform and believe, or you will be repressed in a cashless society where you will own nothing and what you need will be rented to you or provided to you by your wise masters … provided you conform and believe.

  52. “Oh, there won’t be a secession!”

    I wouldn’t hold my breath on that one.

    My late father was a kid that cold December day that Fuchida’s strike force hit Pearl. He’d tell you? Before? Nobody believed it possible we’d enter WW2. Nobody.

    And then? Well, guess.

    We got a little problem. Goes like this: 70,000,000 citizens feel strongly they got cheated this last election. And many of them are red-faced pissed about it, yes.

    The chips, yes, are about to fall where they may.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    , @Corvinus
  53. Emslander says:

    I wouldn’t hold my breath on that one.

    The collapse of the debt funding mechanisms will pre-empt all political solutions. Secession won’t be necessary. Remember that this Wuhan panic was initiated just as the zero interest rate policy of the Fed was beginning to burst at the weak points. The overnight rates in New York went to over ten per cent at one point and the Fed started regularly flooding it with its “no-money”.

    All the curtains will now fall and the little wizard’s light show will be seen for what it is. China will lead the creditor world in demanding real interest on the dollars it uses to buy our debt. Interest rates will shoot up to where they reflect actual risk and the dollar prices of all of your assets (farms, homes, cars, precious metals and shitty works of art) will go to zero. Hope you saved a little money to bribe the border guars.

  54. @GomezAdddams

    The original purpose of the Electoral College was to reconcile differing state and federal interests, provide a degree of popular participation in the election, give the less populous states some additional leverage in the process by providing “senatorial” electors

    They also didn’t want to give a direct vote to the people in case they elected a dangerous demagogue.

  55. @Bert

    Replacing democracy with demarchy would solve that problem: pre-qualify a pool from members of the public who meet IQ and personality (no Dark Triads allowed) criteria, and then choose public officials and high-level bureaucrats randomly from this pool.

    The real problem is the two party system in that it mainly attracts opportunists.

    Both parties support telling certain fibs to the public so a prequalification is the ability to lie.

    That is really why you end up with career slimeballs like Biden.

    • Replies: @Bert
  56. Mr. Ed says:
    @Greta Handel

    You’re absolutely correct; Buchanan is living at least 40 years in the past.

  57. Rurik says:
    @davidgmillsatty

    I posted it.

    So the fat lady has sung, and the ZUS will be headed by an uber-corrupt, doddering old Deepstate whore and his VP slag.

    Since I seceded from the zio-regime in my heart decades ago, this isn’t such a big deal for me, but for millions of Americans who have clung to the delusion that America was a nation of laws with some scintilla of hope for their children, it must be a heavy burden to bear today, as the Deepstate has got its blood-stained claws firmly back on the levers of power.

    All eyes on Georgia now, as they attempt their absolute coup.

  58. @Cthulu Smith

    The chips are certainly getting closer to falling.

    Did anyone see the recent violence in Olympia? I saw at least one antifa dork with an AR-15.

    We are getting closer to seeing a full on shoot-out between antifa and the oddballs that show up to fight them.

    I really don’t think that trying to give them a beating is a good strategy. It’s only a matter of time before someone pulls a gun and shoots into the other side. I’d hate to see anyone shot over dealing with indoctrinated 19 year olds. Most of them can’t even explain what they want. That is a much bigger problem. They are coming out of the school system and they can’t even form a sentence describing their political goals.

  59. @anon

    In 1861 many in the slave states thought they should do exactly as you describe, stay within the Union and force the radicals, abolitionists and the sectional president that had been elected to back down.
    Many, especially but not exclusively, in the border slave states, maintained that stance throughout
    the conflict. Their strategy in significant ways was operative after the war.

  60. @Sin City Milla

    leaving nothing but secession n civil war.

    There are other options.

    One is the Roman Empire model–slow and steady decline into the dustbin of history…

  61. America is not in need of bi-partisanship! America is in need of Non-partisanship! As far as a revolt by Trump voters, if they are stupid enough to revolt over Trump losing the election while they sat quietly in their homes and masked and distanced during covid-19 as they were commanded to do then they are even more stupid than I thought! So, basically an acknowledgement that they dare about Trump’s authority over them more than they care about their own freedom! Like obedient slaves defending their master! I would be quite shocked if they are really that fucking stupid!

    Andeea Iravani

  62. @Johnny Smoggins

    Rush Limbaugh has been saying the same thing. Senile Biden is an embarrassment to the party. His only job was to be the front man for the democrat takeover. He was chosen only because he was Obama’s VP. Now that he’s done his job they’ll soon get rid of him. The leftwing media never liked him, so his son Hunter’s corruption, which will also envelop him, has finally been released. People who thought they were voting for Biden have been hoodwinked. They were actually voting for the very unlikeable, very irritating Kamala.

  63. @davidgmillsatty

    Ted Cruz doesn’t qualify either. He was born in Canada to a Cuban father who was not a citizen and lived there for 3 years. He held dual citizenship until he renounced his Canadian citizenship in 2014. During the 2016 campaign, Trump questioned Cruz’s eligibility, and other lawsuits were filed – none successful. As the definition of “natural born citizen” has been expanded by the courts beyond its original intent, I predict that any lawsuits claiming Kamala to be ineligible will also fall on deaf ears. (Just as the Texas case was).

  64. @mike99588

    I think Trump would be too old in 2024, and passe

    You are right.

    However, there may be an electable politician waiting in the wings to assume Trump’s mantle. If Trump could win the Presidency in 2016 then somebody who sincerely adopted the opinions and policies of Trump but lacked his obnoxious personality, corrupt background, laziness, incompetence, and general unsuitability for the Presidency could pull off the same feat in 2024.

    The problem is finding such a person and then bringing his candidacy to the public’s awareness in the face of universal establishment opposition.

    • Replies: @mike99588
  65. @follyofwar

    I agree that Cruz is ineligible.

    I think Coulter (not a fan) has discussed the idea that if determination of a citizen’s status, e.g. natural born or naturalized, requires reference to (congressional) legislation, then ipso facto such a citizen can’t be natural born.

    Next thing you know, Congress will decree that natural born status applies to anyone who has lived here for more than 25 years. Then Schwarzenegger will run.

    Harry Sussex 2044!

  66. Anonymous[196] • Disclaimer says:

    WTF…Perception…!!! is that what you said??? perception…is not based on FACTS scientific material evidence…The great RIFT between American vrs their govt is growing exponentially. They said that the KENNEDY(s) assassinations deflowered americans virginity NOW is the trauma of DIVORCE …someone is cheating in this relationship…and usually (the young) is the worst casualty. NOW the conspiracies will keep its torrential course thus eroding civic trust .. their influence will grow for good, bad or evil..

  67. Again, things perceived as real are real in their consequences.

    We perceive things not as they are, but as we are, Mr. Buchanan. [Y]our belief in what we see is driven by a perception that lies either within this world or “beltway” as you might call it, or from without.

    In this world a hand once appeared and began writing on a wall wild unknowable things. Certain of those at the time yearned to know the meaning, however, most were paralyzed with fear because the hand had no arm nor body. Daniel 5:5

    I read some commentator above accusing you of living forty-years in the past. That’s nowhere near enough for purposes of knowing the ONE who “declares the end from the beginning, and from ancient times things that are not yet done.” Isaiah 46:10. Another four fingers and thumb now writing the edge of land sadness, end of world gladness? If so, let’s go. . . קֵץ
    If not, get your guts together.

  68. [adapted slightly from the original in a comment thread in Althouse two or three days ago]

    If you’ll allow me a long posting… For some years I’ve participated in a Portlandia-based group of ex/retired-academics, Peace Corps and international NGO veterans, etc., all predictably solidly over on the prog left. Their former weekly meetings in meat space went virtual some months ago when the COVID freak-out arrived. My previous presentations were focused on water resources politics in Southeast Asia, on which I hold some expertise.

    Here’s an extract from the blurb announcing last night’s ZOOM-intermediated event, which I thought didn’t bode well:
    ____

    “Robert Reich recently said: ‘When this nightmare is over, we need a Truth and Reconciliation [T and R] Commission. It would erase Trump’s lies, comfort those who have been harmed by his hatefulness, and name every official, politician, executive, and media mogul whose greed and cowardice enabled this catastrophe.’ And The Nation recently wrote: ‘We need a form of truth and reconciliation commission precisely because our normal institutions have failed. We need to understand how that failure happened, who is responsible, and who should face justice. . . .’

    The ‘reconciliation’ part of a ‘commission’ is just as important as the ‘truth’ part. We still have to have a society with these Trump people, and that can’t happen until we understand what they’ve done and feel measures have been taken to protect us from them again.”
    _____

    The participants yammered on about the boundless delusions and stupidity of the Trumpistas and spoke psuedo-knowingly about the “conservative media” and the strangulated and deluded “conservative mindset” —and also the persistent justified guilt and derangement of US Vietnam war soldiery— but I doubt whether any of them really read or watched anything from the right-leaning online intelligentsia (to include sites such as this); nor actually ever once spoke as equals with thoughtful conservatives: or with real-life VN vets, for that matter. One even went off on the Romanian Dracula/Vlad the Impaler legends to solidy the Draculaization of Trump.

    I was ready to pull the plug about ten minutes in, and then the idea arose semi-spontaneously amongst several of us (these were not stupid people!) that since the hideous Trumpistas were never, ever going to buy into any Truth and Reconciliation (T and R) enterprise that was fully predicated in advance to require the Right’s total abnegation and apologia —which they probably knew wasn’t forthcoming on such outrageous terms— maybe each side could stage their own internal T and R initiatives?

    The latest upsurge in Portlandia Antifa craziness was the ongoing and ugly Mississippi Street eviction confrontations; which appeared much less beloved by far, by the left intelligentsia who suddenly found much to criticize in the local politicos’ collapse in deference to “95% peaceful protesters” agenda, but were now backing away from that.

    And as Prof. Althouse has not been shy to tell us —and in my jaundiced view, increasingly obnoxiously so— there would be no shortage of content for a T and R thing on our side.

    I closed my participation by saying I’d post this flyer on several of the right-leaning sites that I follow closely, and suggested that they do the same, and we’d compare responses.

    I don’t underestimate the risks coming further apart at the seams and it seems that parallel T&Rs might serve us all very well, as a plausible mechanism to back away from the abyss and re-establish some modicum of national unity and purpose.

    • Replies: @mike99588
    , @nokangaroos
  69. mike99588 says:
    @follyofwar

    Zhou (Joe) Biden “simply” needs to be disqualified before Jan 6 or a final House vote. Then Trump is president as the qualified candidate with the most electors.

    How many ways of disqualification are there?
    “HTH Zhou”

  70. mike99588 says:
    @Hanoi Paris Hilton

    T & R Commission …

    Forget the blue pill(s).
    Ferdinand Marcos’ election in 1986 had more US credibility.

    For the informed voter under a Biden or KH takeover, they only need to decide whether they are in an Occupied France or a Vichy France.

  71. mike99588 says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    Finding a working substitute would be a big, big order, in any shape or form.

    Let’s face it, younger means more info/ideologically contaminated, more likely compromised ala JRoberts, likely less financially independent, and likely less base building.

  72. Miro23 says:

    Can a nation so divided as ours, racially, ideologically, religiously, still do great things together, as did the America of days gone by, to the amazement of the world?

    No chance of that. The division is deliberate – fragment the opposition while the special interest oligarchy loot the country. The same crowd did the same job on Russia under drunken President Yeltsin and stripped Russia of everything of value that they could find.

    In the end, it was Putin who finally chased them out (hence the media hate) so maybe the US is waiting for its own nationalist Putin – some military/ security services guy. Putin usefully followed Stalin’s tactic of loyal service until he judged that he had amassed sufficient personal power.

  73. Bert says:
    @John Johnson

    No, the real problem is that almost no “dissidents” can think outside the box.

  74. Reinforcing this perception is the sudden revelation this week that Biden’s son Hunter is indeed the target of a federal tax investigation.

    The Hunter Biden tax investigation is distraction to make simple-minded “conservatives” think they’ve won one. When anyone with a brain knows that Hunter, and his daddy are world-class crooks.

  75. @Exador

    Supreme Court justices don’t want Red brigades on their front lawns.

  76. Hans says:
    @Emslander

    Hillary refused to come out of her hole after election night because she had been promised the fix (fractional shifting of votes) was in. She didn’t win the popular vote any more than Sloppy Joe did with or without the illegals. Powell is correct in saying Trump won by so much this time that he “broke the alogrithm.” Hence they resulted to to massive open vote dumping.

    Finally, the people finally know. Progress.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  77. @Hanoi Paris Hilton

    OMFG … you are serious.

    – I knew (((Reich))) was a contrarian but he hadn´t struck me as deluded;
    did he really say that?
    – Gen. Lee (pbuh) famously quipped that had he known what he was up against he´d have fought to the last man – so thanks for a glimpse into the abyss.
    – The fun part is we´d probably agree on two thirds of the actual issues –
    end the wars, reasonable health care, infrastructure, segregation –
    but all that is left to say is …

    Go tikkun yourself.

  78. @Cauchemar du Singe

    Trump did much. He was surrounded by traitors in his own party from day one. Mitch McConnell’s support was lukewarm. Paul Ryan, Lindsay Graham, Jeff Flake, indeed, much of the senior senators were hopeless, where as in the Congress some real brilliant and tough people on the younger side supported him. The whole leftist media complex was conspiring with the Democratic party and all of big tech to sink the President. Finally, after failing in all of their bogus and traitorous actions, including a phony impeachment, they were forced to cheat on a massive scale and when Biden stupidly suggested he was against fracking, which is a source of thousands of jobs in many states, the democrats and the establishment media knew that the cheating needed to be BIG AND SPEEDED up, the results in the three key states affirming that that cheating was successful and on time.. Of course the election was stolen by the very serious and criminal entities on the political left, that have controlled the U.S. for over seventy years now and the Western Nations just as long. Googles actions alone, should have resulted in its immediate break up.

    • Agree: SeekerofthePresence
    • Replies: @SeekerofthePresence
  79. @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    Can’t understand why Trump-n-Flop appointed so many ministers who were against him. Even his own law officers opposed him. (This failure would be like Wyatt Earp going to work for the bought-and-paid-for Sheriff Beehan.) In 2016 he had boasted of his ability to appoint smart, loyal lieutenants. In practice, not!

    And why his devotion to Israel rather than to his own Maga agenda? His missteps created a catastrophe in the making.

    It seems ’Murka and the world are rapidly moving to a Rollerball (1977 version) scenario, where six large corporations ruled the world. In today’s world they might be Google, Facebook, Apple (mainly to support the vast intelligence network) and Tesla, Boeing, and Exxon-Mobil (to support energy and the military).

    They prohibited heroes, so that no one would oppose the deep-corporate-state. Trump tried to change course through executive orders, but he was no Jonathan E.

    In the last game (I believe against Tokyo) there were no rules, as we found in this last “election.”

  80. @SeekerofthePresence

    No doubt you make some very interesting points, that are not at all clear.

  81. @SeekerofthePresence

    Corrections: the original Rollerball came out in 1975, not 1977. The last game was against New York, not Tokyo.

    Trailer…

  82. nsa says:

    Overt fraud was noticeably absent in the 2020 Presidential Selection, as proven by the final pre-election polling. Silver, the sports betting statistician at 538, mashed together all the pre-election final polls and came up with a 7% popular vote advantage to JoeDepends. He then subtracted the 3% error in the 2016 Presidential election caused by shy DiaperDon voters lying to pollsters. 7% – 3% = 4%. 4% is almost the exact popular vote advantage that JoeDepends won by……51.38% for JoeDepends vs 46.91% for DiaperDon i.e. 4.47% advantage to JoeDepends. Humble nsa is neutral, pissing on both the geriatric frauds and voting instead for Howie the Greenie, who received only 390,000 votes total because the Green Party was excluded from the ballot in 20 states. nsa likes birds and frogs…….chirp chirp….ribbit ribbit.

    • Thanks: Grahamsno(G64)
  83. Corvinus says:
    @Hans

    Trump didn’t win by a landslide as he claimed because enough American on their own accord saw right through him and chose not to support him. The fact of the matter is that he lost.

  84. Corvinus says:
    @Cthulu Smith

    “Goes like this: 70,000,000 citizens feel strongly they got cheated this last election. And many of them are red-faced pissed about it, yes.”

    More like 20,000,000 feel that way. And they can be mad all they want. What are they–but more importantly YOU–going to do about it. It’s like the guys at their Saturday night bowling league yammering about their old lady, but they never do anything about her chirping.

  85. Corvinus says:
    @Sin City Milla

    “The Court’s decision is a modern Dred Scot decision, leaving nothing but secession n civil war.”

    So are you going to do something about it, Proud Boy, or just sit and stew like you normally do?

    • Replies: @Sin City Milla
  86. Anon[240] • Disclaimer says:

    Suez at least has strategic value. For 70 years the US has foisted its attentions upon purely peripheral, useless deployments. The Middle East is starting to wear thin. A new peripheral deployment is needed. China knows that the US needs this, and so has created tensions in the South China Sea. This will justify Australia as the next military buildup. The companies that manufacture the campaign patches for uniforms might as well begin right now. A design featuring a kangaroo would look really cool.

  87. @Anon

    Yes, but how does one depict a Woke kangaroo?

  88. Phoenix says:

    What lies ahead?
    Some see secession.

    I do, too. The Constitution does not specify how states can withdraw from the union, so this will need to be negotiated.

    States that leave will have the option to accept other currencies besides Federal Reserve dollars.

    American retirees living outside the US receive their social security pensions. This probably would continue in states that secede.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  89. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Anon

    This will justify Australia as the next military buildup. The companies that manufacture the campaign patches for uniforms might as well begin right now. A design featuring a kangaroo would look really cool.

    If you wanted a design that reflected real Australian values it could be a kangaroo gunning down Afghan civilians.

  90. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Phoenix

    What lies ahead?
    Some see secession.

    I do, too

    Because wishful thinking works. All you have to do is ask your enemies to give you half the country and of course they’ll do it. Magic is real.

    Meanwhile in the real world any state that tries to secede will be stomped so hard their eyes will water.

  91. Anon[282] • Disclaimer says:
    @lloyd

    Who bankrupted Russia before they bailed out Russia with their borrowed fiat money?

  92. TBeholder says:

    “Was the 2020 election stolen by the establishment to get rid of a president, Donald Trump, whom it loathed?” will be debated decades hence

    It will not be.
    It’s quite obvious now, it will be obvious and moot after either cold civil war in USA will become hot or (less likely now) this will be somehow averted.
    If this was somewhat enigmatic, Facehug would not censor mentions of Benford’s Law, would it?

    83% of Republicans polled by Gallup said they did not believe reports of Trump’s defeat.
    […]
    The Washington Post reports this week that, midway between Election Day and Inauguration Day, only 27 congressional Republicans would acknowledge Biden’s win.

    Just “Republicans”? Also, who on Earth trusts the Washington Compost?

    If we are gonna keep it 100…it looks like the Democrats might have pulled some type of finesse with this election.
    The problem is, white liberals have a history or doing deceptive moves, then making BLACK PEOPLE the face of the con. So when there is backlash, it falls on us
    — Tariq Nasheed 🇺🇸 (@tariqnasheed) November 7, 2020

    Notice how hesitant they are to call this election…..
    Thats because they know it was some shady stuff going on with them ballots….
    and when they call the election, some BS might go down..
    This is why white liberals are pushing Black people out in the forefront of this
    — Tariq Nasheed 🇺🇸 (@tariqnasheed) November 7, 2020

    For example, this fellow is very unlikely to be a secret Trumpkin, yet he calls BS too.

  93. TBeholder says:
    @Wyatt

    He had the “whistleblowers” in enough of the right places. And thus witnesses for the court. Probably more than already made noise.
    Will this be enough? Who knows. It did look like “definitely yes” at first. It looks somewhat less like “yes” now.
    But then, Trump did look like he gave up before — right until it turned out he somehow won again.
    It’s about escalation and timing as much as it’s about legitimacy.

  94. @Corvinus

    I already did. I sent a personal invitation to Putin.

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