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“There go the people. I must follow them, for I am their leader,” is a remark attributed to a French politician during the turbulent times of 1848.

Joe Biden’s Wednesday declaration that President Donald Trump should be impeached is in that tradition. Joe is scrambling to get out in front of the sentiment for impeachment in the party he professes to lead.

Several factors surely influenced Biden’s change of mind.

Beset by gaffes and mental lapses while campaigning, which rivals like Cory Booker have seized upon to imply that Biden, at 76, is losing it and may not be up to the demands of the presidency, the former vice president has been on a steady slide in the polls.

This week, he was displaced as Democratic front-runner by Sen. Elizabeth Warren. And the $15 million Biden boasts of raising in the third quarter was eclipsed by the $25 million raised by Warren.

Moreover, with Bernie Sanders hospitalized after a heart attack, the possibility of a stampede to Warren as the socialist-progressive flag-bearer of the party has become real.

Biden concluded that he could not remain ambivalent and allow his rivals to appear tougher on Trump, especially when the cause of impeachment unites and animates the party and media establishment as powerfully as it does.

By taking his stand, Biden has made the question — Where do you stand on impeaching Trump? — the big issue in Tuesday’s Democratic debate.

Declaring for impeachment also gives Biden a way to deflect questions about what son Hunter did for that $50,000 a month from a Ukrainian energy company, while Joe Biden was Barack Obama’s point man battling corruption in Ukraine.

So it was that Biden came to tell a rally in New Hampshire:

“To preserve our constitution, our democracy, our basic integrity, he should be impeached. … He’s shooting holes in the constitution … we cannot let him get away with it.”

With polls showing a majority of Americans favoring an inquiry, and a Fox News poll showing a majority favoring Trump’s conviction and removal, impeachment appears inevitable.

What is Trump’s defense strategy?

Earlier this week, with a defiant letter from White House counsel Pat Cipollone dismissing the House inquiry as a fraud and a farce, Trump seemed to signal a strategy of massive resistance.

Wrote Cipollone: “Your inquiry lacks any legitimate constitutional foundation, any pretense of fairness, or even the most elementary due process protections. … The Executive Branch cannot be expected to participate in it.”

By Wednesday, however, Trump had backed away from Armageddon.

His new position: If the full House votes to open an impeachment inquiry, and he is given the same rights and protections Richard Nixon was given in 1974, he, Trump, would respect House subpoenas, while retaining the right to challenge them in the Supreme Court.

Thus, as Nancy Pelosi and House Democrats seek to ram through a bill of impeachment by Thanksgiving, based on Trump’s July 25 phone call to Ukraine’s president, Trump is preparing for siege warfare.

As Trump has himself conceded, impeachment is probable, even if the outcome of this historic collision between the president and Congress, which will decide the fates of Pelosi, Trump and Biden alike, is, as of yet, undetermined.

Yet in this struggle, Trump is not without assets.


The first is Adam Schiff, who has become the prosecution’s face in the impeachment battle. This is good news for the White House. For Schiff’s visceral hatred of Trump and desire to see him impeached, convicted, deposed, disgraced and imprisoned is a matter of record.

As long as Schiff heads up the impeachment inquiry, many will see it as simply a savage, partisan and vindictive exercise.

Then are also two potentially explosive inquiries into the roots of the Mueller investigation that are well-advanced. Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz has been looking into allegations that the FBI and DOJ abused the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act to launch the probe and kick-start the Russia investigation.

The Horowitz report is expected to be released within weeks.

U.S. Attorney John Durham has also spent months investigating the origins of the counter-intelligence investigation of Trump campaign aide George Papadopoulos.

Among Durham’s questions: Were intel agents of Britain, Italy and Australia enlisted to spy on Americans by U.S. intelligence agencies? For any counterintelligence operation against a presidential campaign would have required a signoff by then-President Obama.

Administration officials have also told Fox News that when Robert Mueller met with Trump in May 2017, Mueller was pursuing the open post as director of the FBI, something the former special counsel denied under oath during his congressional testimony.

Emails released this month through a Freedom of Information Act request by Judicial Watch indicate Mueller knew he could be named as special counsel if he wasn’t chosen as FBI director.

Russiagate consumed the first three years of Trump’s presidency. “Ukrainegate” and impeachment give promise of dominating the fourth.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

Copyright 2019

• Category: Ideology • Tags: Democratic Party, Donald Trump, Joe Biden, Ukraine 
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  1. The Fox News poll is nonsense fueled by Paul Ryan The King of the Cucks.

    This is yet another nothing burger.

    Impeachment will not get through the Senate.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  2. Rich says:

    Impeachment is inevitable, acquittal in the Senate is just as inevitable. The US government has become a joke and will only get worse. The fact that a spy can be planted in the White House to find any spec of dirt he thinks can be spun to destroy President Trump, shows how ridiculous we’ve become. No leader on earth will ever have a candid conversation with an American president again. We’ve allowed morons to destroy a once great nation. It’s a real shame.

  3. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:

    What’s the point of this Beltway drivel?

    Politics as sportsball, with Mr. Buchanan playing the part of the worn out jock in the ill-fitting suit treating it all as something serious back at the big desk in the studio. All designed to keep the sheep tuned into Washington.

  4. Impeachment may be Trump’s best chance for re-election. The people pushing the impeachment may well appear (or actually be) deranged. Trump’s re-election message will be simple; whatever defects I may have, the alternatives are obvious lunatics.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  5. Wally says:

    Hardly inevitable.

    The Bluffpeachment:


    The current situation in Washington is, in the language of poker, a bluff. The Democrats are bluffing; they have only weak cards in their hand. They actually have nothing against Trump. That’s all they have ever had.

    The current hysteria of the Democrats regarding impeachment is unusual. Firstly, it is based on rumors. That is why, secondly, the Democrats still have not decided which law Trump has violated. Thirdly, there was no vote in the House of Representatives to initiate the impeachment procedure (more precisely, the House of Representatives, in which the majority belongs to the Democrats, in a 332-95 decision, chose not to bother with impeachment).

    Therefore, the Democrats are forced to roll this bluffpeachment process despite Trump not violating any laws (at least, the Democrats carefully do not mention any statute that Trump has presumably violated). However, it is clear to everyone that Trump’s indictment, if brought forward, could only be for the worst — from the point of view of the Democrats — crime: the crime of winning the election.

    • Agree: El Dato
  6. The Horowitz report is expected to be released within weeks.

    We’ve been hearing that for months.

    The fact that an investigation of a prima facie case of Biden corruption is itself an deemed and trumpeted to be an impeachable offence is evidence that the Rubicon has been passed by the coup conspirators. It is only made clearer when none of the culpable parties in the DoJ, FBI, and CIA face any charges, while a number of Trump apparatchiks are looking at or doing time behind bars.

    Stick a fork in it. Time for Trump to head to Brasil.

    • Replies: @Wally
  7. There is the $ 50,000 a month Hunter Biden case. But apparently there’s also old Joe managing to suck up $ 900,000
    out of the Ukrainians. And publicly boasting he essentially blackmailed the Ukrainians into sacking a prosecutor who was getting closer to Hunter by threatening to cut off $ 1 billion loan guarantee …he generously gave them 6 hours to respond.
    Biden for Pres’– corruption AND dementia in one package!!

  8. JR says:

    “By Wednesday, however, Trump had backed away from Armageddon.”

    Buchanan is presenting this as a U-turn, but the White House is fully in its right to refuse cooperation as long as no vote in house has passed. For now this inquiry has the status of another fishing expedition only. When a real impeachment process is legitimized by a vote of course the White House will comply. That’s not U-turn but insisting on due process which the Democrats tried to circumvent.

    Looks that some anti Trump bias is coloring Buchanan’s views.

    After three years of Russiahoax the Democrats now intent on sequel Ukrainehoax.

    Mind you Russiahoax was a coverup and deflection from the weaponizing of the intelligence services of US, UK and probably Australia against presidential candidate, president elect and even president Trump. That’s a coup attempt. I am sorely missing some more explicit indignation on Buchanan’s part.

    Ukrainehoax serves the purpose of again trying to sweep the whole Russiahoax under the rug. So coup attempt 2.0

    The Democrats are very much aware they need to win to be able to flush these sordid affairs into the memory hole. However it doesn’t look that they will succeed.

    Trump’s recent demeanor however clearly reveals he is fully aware he will be winning shortly given the Barr and Durham investigations. The timing will conveniently help his reelection. Only another economic crises might prevent that.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  9. KenH says:

    For Schiff’s visceral hatred of Trump and desire to see him impeached

    Shifty Schiff’s hatred is the eternal Jewish hatred of white European gentiles. Schiff viscerally hates Trump because he’s a white man and even though he cow tows to Jews he’s still a bit of a wild card and could be like the king in middle aged Europe who expels the Jews after previously supporting them.

  10. BuelahMan says:

    Trump is a lying, worthless jew water carrier. But if that were the reason for impeachment, NONE of them would exist.

  11. Impeachment, maybe. Maybe just a CIA purge like Carter got, or CIA might blow Trump’s brains out like they did to JFK. CIA hack David Sanger at Mockingbird HQ just explained why Trump has got to go.

    “Mr. Trump’s sudden abandonment of the Kurds was another example of the independent, parallel foreign policy he has run from the White House, which has largely abandoned the elaborate systems created since President Harry Truman’s day to think ahead about the potential costs and benefits of presidential decisions.”

    Could this be any clearer? Trump has presumed to set policy without CIA supervision. The “elaborate systems” are nothing more or less than CIA, the President’s Gestapo, which Truman didn’t want either. And it’s not the president’s Gestapo. The Gestapo is in charge. Mueller married into the Gestapo’s Cabell clan. CIA is disciplining its puppet ruler.

    Your government is CIA. You will get nowhere till you storm and raze the CIA and take your files home. Sack up, the Germans did it to the Stasi, and you could do it too.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  12. Anonymous[983] • Disclaimer says:

    The only support Trump has outside of the US was from Brexiteers in the UK, but he is even rapidly losing that by refusing to extradite the US embassy worker who ran over and killed a British person in a hit-and-run crash.

    Now all but the most fanatical Brexiteers regard Trump as a scumbag. Most Brexiteers have now given up any hope of Trump being an ally and agreeing a good deal with the UK, there is clearly no chance of that in reality. Now even most Brexiteers see Trump for what he is he is finished.

  13. I wonder if anyone will come up with the idea to muster a couple of hundred thousand Trump supporters to form a symbolic protective circle around the White House, thereby shutting down DC, like the climate and yellow vest protesters do elsewhere. Would be interesting to see how the factions would handle that one, and how the country would respond.

    History is made by men like Trump, not by nice guys who follow the rules. Love him or hate him, it may now not be possible to return to the status quo ante, and that is not a bad thing. Trump twittered last night the most astonishing truth about the deliberate destruction of Iraq on falsified intelligence. No other high-ranking American politician has ever been so frank about his country’s crimes.`We need more, not less, of that, even if it comes from the mouth of a New York real estate developer.

    • Agree: follyofwar, Rurik
  14. @Robert Dolan

    Totally agree! What the hell has happened to Fox News since Roger Aisles was deposed? After the ‘polls’ showed that Hillary was a lock to beat Trump, does Pat really maintain any belief in them?

    Trump wasted his first two years listening to Paul Ryan, who did the bidding of the Koch brothers. All he got out of it was a tax cut for the rich that no one outside of the 1% wanted, and no money for the wall, which Ryan opposed.

    It does bother me, though, that since Trump’s partial pull out of the troops along the Turkish border, which set the neocons hair on fire, there could be enough GOP senators who will flip and vote for conviction. It depends upon how many votes that never-Trumper Mittens Romney is able to sway to his side.

  15. @Diversity Heretic

    Just look at the unblinking bug eyes of pencil-neck Adam Schiff and tell me that that man is not deranged. I recently watched “Joker,” and feel that Schiff is more deranged than that character.

  16. @Remedial Civics

    All there is that CIA does worry about its work load. It is the workload that justifies its existence, (or at least about volume of their employees)

  17. TGD says:

    Trump abandoned our Kurdish friends and allies to the ruthless Turks and just announced that the USA is sending an additional 1000 troops to Saudi Arabia. The Al Saud clan of degenerate hypocrites and their Wahhabi storm troopers are the sworn enemies of the west. Has Trump gone bonkers?

    President Pence- sounds better and better.

  18. Amon says:

    Hmm, well my opinion is clear.

    Trump needs to be impeached, not for Ukraine, Russia or his tweets, but for his clear cut slavish devotion to a foreign hostile nation and its people to the clear detriment of the american people and their nation.

    No nation on Earth should suffer under a leader who puts the needs of other people above the natives of the nation he leads.

    The rules are clear on that matter, impeach, then execute for high treason.

    • Replies: @albionrevisited
    , @Wally
  19. Amon says:

    What, you want a Judeo-Christian in the drivers seat?

    You want a guy that thinks the world owes it to the Jews to invade and destroy Iran, then blow up the Dome of the Rock and build a third temple on its rubble so the end of times can come rolling in?

    You want that kind of crazy in charge?

  20. Anonymous[101] • Disclaimer says:

    Looks that some anti Trump bias is coloring Buchanan’s views.

    Could be but his views are kind of dull regardless. Looks like Buchanan’s political experience didn’t lead to wisdom and insight. His shtick seems to be political horse trading and score reading analysis but too often he’s just wrong or boring.

  21. Disappointing article by Buchanan.

    The important story and the main focus of this latest ‘scandal-investigation’ should be about former VP, Joe Biden; not Trump.

    The entire impeachment movement is nothing more than ‘Russiagate 2.0′. The witch hunt continues.

    It’s our Democrat-favoring news media (along with countless government operatives) that has turned the real story upside-down.

    It is Trump who is the whistleblower. Trump was seeking the goods and trying to blow the whistle on a corrupt former Vice President. The facts speak for themselves. Biden and his son were selling influence and meddling in the affairs of Ukraine to get away with it.

    Isn’t this news?

    Of course it is.

    Then why is it not being investigated?

    I hear crickets.

    Was Biden’s interference in a Ukrainian anti-corruption investigation (that was moving towards his son, Hunter) “politically motivated’?

    Of course it was.

    So why not look there?

    It is entirely appropriate to investigate and blow the whistle on the Bidens. Tragically, our own ‘investigative’ news media won’t do it because they’re too politically invested in removing Trump from office.

    Political operatives who pose as journalists shudder at the thought of another Trump victory in 2020. So they’re using their power to distort reality.

    The wrongdoer (Biden) gets protection while the whistleblower (Trump) gets attacked. This is a moral farce.

    In a sane world, President Trump would be commended–not denounced–for taking an interest in this barely-known (and insufficiently investigated) scandal involving globe-wrecking politicians (such as Joe Biden) who interfere in the affairs of sovereign states while they line their pockets.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  22. @follyofwar

    Good comment! Adam Schiff certainly wins the prize for most repellent physiognomy. Couple it with the antics of the “Squad of Four” and you could pretty much create Donald Trump’s 2020 re-election campaign advertisements.

    • Replies: @anon
  23. Ilyana no. 16, mais non. Since CIA’s work load is crime, their number-one worry is impunity. They attack any threat to their impunity violently and lethally. They don’t need to justify their existence, they need to stay in power, because CIA is the regime. They have an unlimited secret budget they top up by cooking the government’s books and skimming the proceeds of illegal drugs trafficking, child trafficking, gun-running, fraud, and piracy. They can kill you or torture you and go to war and get away with it. They can take over an entire agency like HUD to fund a war. They can make anything DoD has fall off the truck and disappear. They can stop DoJ or the courts in their tracks.

    So you’d think CIA would be pretty sans souci, since they run a totalitarian kleptocracy. But like all totalitarians, public awareness of their arbitrary acts and crime upsets them. So they worry about public opinion and international standing. That’s why they infiltrate and control the media and civil society. They worry about the fake democracy they set up. That’s why they bribe, compromise, and blackmail all VIPs, and kill the ones they can’t control.

    That’s why there’s only one reform that matters: do what JFK wanted to do before CIA killed him. 1,000 pieces, 4 winds. Family jewels. Truth and reconciliation. Put Gina Haspel and her kiddy-pimping torture cowards in prison under SAMs for life. CIA’s a cancer.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  24. MEexpert says:

    Trump is a gutless President. He back tracks everything. If he could, he would back track his presidency.

    • Agree: Rosie
  25. @Remedial Civics

    Everything is correct what you said and I do not contest that. But the thing is that CIA needs patriotic cover under which it operates. The cover is to make trouble all all over the word and than force military to solve it. CIA is projecting this as protection of US democracy, protection of American
    freedoms and protection of American way of life and all other kinds of similar B.S.

  26. To illustrate CIA controlling the so-called courts, Ilyana, here are some cowardly worm judges fellating CIA in court. The buttplugged bottoms obediently call torture a “colloquial term,” because the CAT, supreme law of the land equivalent to federal statute per The Paquete Habana decision, is slang, or something. In here whipped CIA bitches Justin L. Quackenbush, Ronald M. Gould and Richard A. Paez and Dean D. Pregerson are squealing like pigs for the Mountain Man.

    Special award for sucking CIA cock to Ronald M. Gould, who slurped and went Oooh! for Pompeo’s magic words “exceptionally grave,” even though nothing justifies the subject crime under the supreme law of the land, the CAT. They must really have some acrobatic Jonbenet action footage on Gould.

    Yes, uncivil words, Pat, but our so-called judges are contemptible vermin.

  27. MEexpert says:

    In all this discussion, no one has mentioned the influence that Israel has on our elections. Israel interferes in every US election. They intervene and pressure every US presidential action that may effect Israel. Let us have an Israelgate Mr. Schiff.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
  28. @follyofwar

    Nancy turned on a dime to support a ridiculous scam that she is calling an impeachment inquiry. She is not that stupid. She is following orders from above her pay grade. Interesting that Gabbard turned at the same time.

    I think Trump finally made it clear that he will not start a shooting war with Iran. So the order came down. Impeach him NOW. For any or no reason.

    I don’t understand why everybody is so sure the Senate will not convict. Trump is not a real Republican. And Senators follow orders too. Trump should promise that he will run as an independent if removed from office. That might make convicting him less tempting for Republicans.

    Will Horowitz and or Barr actually MOVE against high treason in the CIA, the FBI and the State Department? We already know that Comey will not be indited. Is there somebody more guilty than Comey?

    I would like to see Trump serve out his term. Pence will give us world war three. I would like to see Trump win a second term. Warren will give us Communism.

    We’ll see what happens.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
    , @anon
  29. Foul impeachment is the brave emetica,
    Show trial the new justice for Wokemerica.

  30. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:

    Will two white males, Biden and Trump, knock each other out and open the way for Warren?

  31. @WorkingClass

    Impeachment won’t even go through the House, let alone the Senate.

    The reason ugly nancy is only doing the stupid “inquiry” is because she can’t take the vote to impeach,
    knowing it won’t get the needed votes.

    So, it’s just kabuki theater that isn’t going to go anywhere, just the same old coup, Russiagate nothingburger 2.0

    I have come to agree that the reason is because he won’t make war with Iran, because he’s done everything else those bastards could possibly want. They demand absolute obedience, not just 95% obedience.

    And the Dems lack both a platform and a decent candidate, so they have to resort to jewing. They
    don’t know what else to do. Governing and trying to help the American people would be too much work for them. The jewing is much easier.

    • Replies: @anon
  32. Cortes says:

    No need to worry.

    Cipollone knows his onions.

  33. Robjil says:

    US ukraine is not even a foreign nation. It is an overseas US territory like Puerto Rico.

    Nuland says the US invested 5 billion to get Ukraine. Nuland’s used neo-Nazi thugs to beat and kill policeman to get the thing “glued” together (her words). She blessed the coup with the immortal words – F–k the EU.

    This is the type of “democracy building” that the US is doing overseas.

    It is a farce. The whole charade is a joke on all of us.

    There are many clues that US ukraine is an US overseas territory. US ukraine votes like the US at the UN.

    In 2017, the 10 countries with the highest voting coincidence with the United States were, in descending order: Israel, Micronesia, Canada, Marshall Islands, Australia, United Kingdom, France, Palau, Ukraine, and the Czech Republic.

    How the US controls this overseas territory.

    Neither Poroshenko, nor other heads of the Kiev mode are simply not able to lead the country. They never made decisions — decisions were made by the USA and money for maintenance of Ukraine was allocated by them too. The USA made impact on the IMF, and that in turn gave out money. Poroshenko’s role in this question is purely passive. He was rather silly to propose himself as a candidate in 2014 and to become the president. Because no matter who would be on his place the events would be developed in the same way.

    Yes, here is proof of what I am saying. US ukraine and Puerto Rico are both US overseas territories. The US even uses the same people to play games in them.

    This week, the US territory of Puerto Rico declared bankruptcy. Two months earlier, Natalia Jaresko, the US-born Ukrainian investment banker once charged with restructuring Ukraine’s economy, had been tasked with steering Puerto Rico out of its debt crisis. Ukrainian observers couldn’t help but sympathize with their Caribbean ‘fellow victims’.

    Trump should have know that he is not dealing with an independent nation when talking to someone from the US overseas territory of Ukraine.

    • Replies: @Wally
  34. anon[251] • Disclaimer says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Threat of impeachment leads MSNBC casting out Sanders or Warren from the awareness out of consciousness . Works for Clintonite where Biden is an useful appendage ( can Clinton be VP candidate ?)
    Impeach Trump – success leads to Pence – Rubio( Cruz) or Pence -Cotton Dem and GOP happy because handlers want that
    Impeach no success Trump wins but faces Biden and faces GOO challengers like Israeli firster Joe Walsh .

    2020 will be the Chinese Year of Riot out of Hongkong.

  35. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:

    Interesting that Gabbard turned at the same time.

    Disappointing. She can’t possibly believe that arming the Azov-Nazis improves our national security. For her to be reasonably hip to Syria, yet so deluded about Ukraine ….. sad.

    • Replies: @alexander
  36. Wally says:
    @The Alarmist

    “Stick a fork in it. Time for Trump to head to Brasil.”

    Oh yawn.

    Been hearing that since 2016.

  37. Wally says:

    “Neo-Nazi thugs”?

    Is that why “that shitty little country” of Israel arms them?

    If Jews thought that the ‘Nazis’ did what Jews laughably claim, then Jews would hardly be supplying the alleged latest incarnation with arms.

    • Agree: Robjil
    • Replies: @Robjil
  38. Incredible situation. Hope some kind of protest in Washington is schedulded by the american patriots in case the worst happen (impeachment). You can’t be stolen at the corner of the wood and do absolutely nothing ! Medication, television, and intimidation to get people fired out of their jobs in the end won’t be enough to prevent a giant protest.

  39. anon[251] • Disclaimer says:
    @Diversity Heretic

    Why does he look so ugly who always seems to have just been released from the passive position of a homosexual activity .

  40. Corvinus says:

    “Is Impeachment Now Inevitable?”

    Yes. As well as it should be. Next question.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  41. Robjil says:

    It is a joke. This Ukraine thing is what woke me up. Nuland, Jewish, used “neo-Nazi” theme to take over Ukraine. She wasn’t scared of using “Neo-Nazi” themes. In our MSM for decades, one hears that every tiny bit of “Nazism” is so dangerous, it is like kryptonite. Any Swastika found anywhere is the “end of the world”. Yet, Nuland had no such “fears”, she unleashed neo-Nazi culture, an imaginary violent vision of it from our Zion MSM, on a large European country in the 21st century like it was child’s play.

    This all adds up that Nuland and her crowd doesn’t believe in the 6 million story after all.

  42. alexander says:

    From what I could tell, Tulsi supported “inquiry” into the issue, and nothing beyond that.

    When I look at every single D.N.C establishment candidate, with the exception of Tulsi Gabbard, I see a giant “23 T (Trillion)” tatoo-ed on each of their foreheads.

    This is the cost of their war fraud, to each and every American taxpayer, which has yet to be paid off.

    By lying us into illegal war, for the past 18 years, they have betrayed us all, and nearly exterminated our nations solvency in the process.

    What an absolute disgrace .

    • Replies: @anon
  43. nickels says:

    Clown government. Honk honk.

  44. Retire Buchanan. You are a hack.

    Attempting to impeach Trump, the only President who’s shown the courage to reform the corrupt out of control Juggernaut that America Inc. has become, would be the precipitant to a Civil War. 3 years of Never Trump is not legitimate. Trump was elected as POTUS despite massive voter fraud in every major city the Democrats control. In California alone, fraudulent voting is estimated to amount to 1 million (conservatively).
    Americans will only tolerate so much.
    Where’s your outrage at the Corrupt Media Pat? Is it absent because you are part of it? It has been 3 years of ‘get trump’. Get a grip you RINO posterboy cuck.
    What did you ‘conserve’ in all your years of ink? Hey Pat. Tell us what a great conservative you’ve been and how you worked tirelessly to preserve the Republic.

    • Replies: @albionrevisited
    , @dfordoom
  45. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:

    Have you listened to her town halls? Yes, she’s only supporting an “enquiry,” but she says that’s because (and she acknowledges her change of position) there was a threat to US security (in the Trump/Zelinsky phone call), the delayed military aid, yada, yada.

    Since that’s absurd, and she must know it, (Obama refused to give them weapons at all), she is likely succumbing to pressure/group think. Maybe she feels this is neutral, and buys her time to get up to speed. I realize that Tulsi [and her staff] have a ton more on their plates than I do, but that in 5 years she hasn’t got a better handle on something as important as Ukraine… is not cool. And about her staff… which one(s) is the AIPAC mole? Or the Clinton/DNC mole. Or whatever.

    Meanwhile. the hearings are a shit show witch hunt, and the media is doubling, tripling down, lies to the 10th power. Very hard to push back, but Ukraine finally getting attention is hopeful.
    Ukraine whistleblowers are actually CIA agents

    • Replies: @alexander
  46. @Amon

    None of that will change if Trump is removed, but the flood gates of the third world will be thrown open.

  47. @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    What are you going on about? Pat didn’t even make a case for Trump’s impeachment; he’s just laying out what’s happening and how the white house is likely to respond.

  48. They are bluffing. Nobody except a few Christo-Zionist kooks wants a President Pence. It’s Biden who should (and hopefully will) end up in prison.

  49. How come that Democrats can investigate about Trump everything, even if he farts correctly.
    And why it is that Trump cannot look even under Biden & co fingernails.

    Yes it looks kind of strange that Trump wanted to investigate Biden after he become a candidate for presidency.
    But that did happen because of Trumps kindness.
    Trump did know all about Biden’s crooked dealings long time ago like everybody else but he let it slide.
    Only when Biden declared his presidency Trump wanted to be certain that rumors are true or not.
    He wanted to avoid disappointment for American people and American government and also avoid embarrassment for Biden also,
    Not only it was Trumps right it was his duty.
    So what will happen when Biden becomes President and The truth will appear.
    Who will have an egg on his/her face, and also on all democrats faces.
    I do think that risks are high for Democrats.

  50. alexander says:

    I would not be surprised if Tulsi is being pressured, quite a bit, from the powers that be.

    What that means in the end, in terms of her platform, is anyone’s guess.

    Voters will notice, almost immediately, if she has capitulated, … the exact same way voters noticed , when Bernie chose to stand behind Hillary, right after the DNC fiasco.

    I hope Tulsi stands her ground, she is the DNC front runner, on the basis of google hits, and debate domination…she is the shoe -in.

    Everyone also knows that Liz Warren is a “bought and paid for” establishment stooge.

    We will see what happens.

  51. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:

    Voters will notice, almost immediately, if she has capitulated, … the exact same way voters noticed , when Bernie chose to stand behind Hillary,

    Do you really think so? Bernie’s supporters (and his capitulation) were very obvious. Nobody had to explain free college, or single payer. OTOH, Ukraine and Russia are completely opaque to most Americans, or worse than opaque since they’ve already swallowed the MSM/neocon garbage. Even Tulsi repeats the “Russia interfered in 2016 election” nonsense, and talks about safeguarding future elections. She kind of side-steps it, but she never outright debunks.

    In a recent town hall, she said she would not run as an independent, and that the most important thing was defeating Trump. (So much for the kooks who think Trump should run with her as VP, lol.) She’ll back the Dem. candidate, I guess. We will see, all right. If she backs Biden, I’ll be sick.

  52. Wally says:

    As if Trump is the only President to kiss Jew ass.

    I’ll take what good Trump has done so far vs. the absolute madness that would be a Hillary Clinton regime or any of those running for nomination.

    In the real world you take what you can get and then keep working from there. Things will not drastically change for the good overnight, but they are changing.

    Just imagine ‘immigration’ under Hillary or any those running for nomination.

    Wise up, calm down.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  53. dfordoom says: • Website

    Attempting to impeach Trump, the only President who’s shown the courage to reform the corrupt out of control Juggernaut that America Inc. has become, would be the precipitant to a Civil War.

    Pure fantasy.

  54. @Wally

    More invaders under Trump than Obama.

    Awful truth.

  55. @TGD

    Go Back to Langley you lying CIA shill.

  56. @albionrevisited

    He’s not laying out what’s happening. He gave a highly selective version of event; so selective that it’s not an outline. HIs analysis is a form of propaganda. He and the whole ‘conservative’ analyst section of the Cia-Media have been doing this for years.

  57. @dfordoom

    So the Media has relentlessly attacked Trump for over 3 years for no reason?
    Take a look at how many top Civil Servants and Top Intelligence people are gone since Trump took office. The DS is losing bodies.
    Not only that but the number of resignations in top Business positions is not normal either.
    There have also been siginificant resignations and retirements in Congress.

    So, there is no reform?

    Re: Civil War.
    Toppling a political leader is often a precipitant event in the political deterioration that precedes Civil War.
    There is a defacto civil war within the American Elite going on right now. You haven’t noticed? Strange.
    The idea that this will not spill over into the overall society, if it goes on long enough without a resolution, is ludicrous. There are too many unresolved issues eating away at the overall society that go back to the early 1950’s and the growth of one very malignant entity: the MIC/Deep State. Not only did they accumulate a great deal of power but they immediately began social engineering. The State broke the ‘posse comitatus’ taboo by using the Army to enforce radical social engineering.
    Nobody even used the term ‘Deep State’ 10 years ago. Only people in certain circles were even familiar with the term. The phrase was first used to describe the underlying structure of the Turkish state.
    You are living in a complacent deluded fantasy world.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  58. dfordoom says: • Website

    Re: Civil War.
    Toppling a political leader is often a precipitant event in the political deterioration that precedes Civil War.

    You mean like the civil war that followed the toppling of Nixon?

    The preconditions for civil war don’t exist. To have a civil war you need a significant number of people prepared to kill, or die, for their cause. How many people do you think are prepared to kill, or die, for Trump? You need an organised coherent opposition. It doesn’t exist. You need people willing to fight for years (civil wars tend to be lengthy).

    You need more than a few keyboard warriors posting Pepe the Frog memes.

    I’m not sure you understand what an actual civil war would be like. You’re talking about hundreds of thousands of deaths. It’s fortunate that it isn’t going to happen.

    Right-wingers who talk about civil war are engaging in dangerously deluded magical thinking.

  59. Rurik says:

    Trump abandoned our Kurdish friends and allies to the ruthless Turks

    • LOL: Ilyana_Rozumova
  60. Rurik says:
    @mark green

    Biden and his son were selling influence and meddling in the affairs of Ukraine …

    So why not look there?

    Imagine how the sane world sees US partisanism.

    But then Russia was under the ((exact same thrall)), when no one ‘noticed’ the gulags’ or the pogroms.

    Just like no one ‘noticed’ what was/is going on in Rotherham, or Malmo.

    People who notice things, like Julian Assange, or Michael Hastings, become examples and warnings for the others. And that’s the whole point.

    Success in Western ‘journalism’ today, = being particularly adept at not noticing things.

    The Emperors new Clothes was published almost two hundred years ago, but is as salient today as it ever was.

    You could go back to Bible even: ‘Hear now this, O foolish people, and without understanding; which have eyes, and see not; which have ears, and hear not’

    Getting people so notice what for them is inconvenient; is like the idiom ‘You can lead a horse to water… but you can’t make an ideologue see something that crumbles the foundations of his world view’. Or something like that.

    We live in an era where wishing and proclaiming that certain “truths” or “realities” are so, are supposed to make them so.

    AOC declares that we will all die in 12 years, unless we mandate an end to planes and automobiles. A Swedish teenager hectors us all from the UN lectern, that ‘we are destroying her dreams’, by driving to the grocery store, as the Third World threatens to explode the numerical population (and carbon emissions and destruction of the environment) of Sweden.

    Insanity is the new normal. And noticing that, will bring condemnations from the UN Human Rights Commission and Swedish teenagers.

    What is there to do but laugh at the hysterical inanity and absurdity?

    We’ve gone from Franklin and Jefferson to AOC and Adam Schiff.

    Just stumbled across this appallingly offensive video.

    I’m posting it here in the name of free speech, as I suspect it will be taken down.


    • Agree: SeekerofthePresence
  61. anonymous[299] • Disclaimer says:

    Is Impeachment Now Inevitable?”


    Yes. As well as it should be.

    I was just going to say, Only in the minds of those in the shallow end of the pool is impeachment inevitable.

    then along comes Corvinus, treading water, her bathing cap askew.

    paddle those water wings, Corvi-doll!

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  62. Corvinus says:

    “I was just going to say, Only in the minds of those in the shallow end of the pool is impeachment inevitable.”

    You are drowning in your own ignorance, ma’am.

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