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In all but one of the last seven presidential elections, Republicans lost the popular vote. George W. Bush and Donald Trump won only by capturing narrow majorities in the Electoral College.

Hence the grand strategy of the left: to enlarge and alter the U.S. electorate so as to put victory as far out of reach for national Republicans as it is today for California Republicans, and to convert the GOP into America’s permanent minority party.

In the Golden State, Democrats control the governors’ chair, every elective state office, both U.S. Senate seats, 46 of 53 U.S. House seats and three-fourths of each house of the state legislature in Sacramento.

How does the left expect to permanently dispossess Middle America?

Let us count the ways.

In 2018, over 60 percent of Floridians voted to expand the electorate by restoring voting rights to 1.5 million ex-cons, all of Florida’s felons except those convicted of sex crimes and murder.

Florida gave Bush his razor-thin victory over Al Gore. Should Trump lose Florida in 2020, he is a one-term president. If the GOP loses Florida indefinitely, the presidency is probably out of reach indefinitely.

Florida’s Amendment 4 is thus a great leap forward in the direction in which the republic is being taken. Gov. Terry McAuliffe of the swing state of Virginia restored voting rights to 156,000 felons by executive order in 2016, calling it his “proudest achievement.”

In California and Oregon, moves are afoot to reduce the voting age to 17 or 16. Understandable, as high schoolers are more enthusiastic about socialism.

Last week, a bold attempt was made by House Democrats to lower the U.S. voting age to 16. It failed — this time.

Some House Democrats apparently feel that with “Medicare-for-all” and the Green New Deal of Rep. Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez on the table, they have enough progressive legislation to satisfy the socialist base.

Thanks to Gov. Jerry Brown, every adult citizen in California who gets or renews a driver’s license, gets a state ID card, or fills out a change of address form with the Department of Motor Vehicles is automatically registered to vote. Purpose: expand voter rolls to include those who have shown no interest in politics, so they can be located on Election Day and bused to the polls.

Ari Berman of Mother Jones writes that Nancy Pelosi’s 700-page For the People Act that did pass the House contains “a slew of measures designed to expand voting rights, which … include nationwide automatic voter registration, Election Day registration, two weeks of early voting in every state … restoration of voting rights for ex-felons, and declaring Election Day a federal holiday.”

House Republicans offered an amendment to the bill with language that said, “allowing illegal immigrants the right to vote devalues the franchise and diminishes the voting power of United States citizens.”

All but six Democrats voted against the GOP proposal.

The Democratic Party does not want to close the door to voting on migrants who broke our laws to get here and do not belong here, as these illegals would likely vote for pro-amnesty Democrats.

If the new U.S. electorate of, say, 2024, includes tens of millions of new voters — 16- and 17-year-olds; illegal migrants; ex-cons; new legal immigrants from Asia, Africa and Latin America who vote 70 to 90 percent Democratic, the political future of America has already been determined.

California, here we come.

As a Democratic insurance policy, Memphis Congressman Steve Cohen has introduced a constitutional amendment to abolish the Electoral College.

Some Republicans support statehood for Puerto Rico, which would add six electoral votes that would go Democratic in presidential elections about as often as Washington, D.C.’s three have, which is always.

Ben Franklin told the lady in Philadelphia, “We have a republic, if you can keep it.” Our elites today, however, ceaselessly celebrate “our democracy.”

Yet John Adams was not optimistic about such a political system: “Democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes exhausts and murders itself. There never was a Democracy yet, that did not commit suicide.”

Thomas Jefferson, a lifelong believer in a “natural aristocracy” among men, was contemptuous: “A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where 51 percent of the people may take away the rights of the other 49.”

Madison wrote in Federalist 10, “democracies … have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.”


If one day not far off, as seems probable, tax consumers achieve a permanent hegemony over the nation’s taxpayers, and begin to impose an equality of result that freedom rarely delivers, the question of who should choose the nation’s rulers will be tabled anew.

We do not select NFL coaches or corporate executives or college professors or generals or admirals by plebiscite. What is the empirical evidence that this is the best way to choose a president or commander in chief?

Peoples are wondering that the world over, as our democracy does not appear to be an especially attractive stock.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

Copyright 2019

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  1. So wealth inequality is not a problem? What’s wrong with going back to Ike’s top marginal rate of 90%? And what’s wrong with a little socialism in those areas where it is appropriate, where capitalism doesn’t work? Should we allow 50,000 people a year to die unnecessarily because of no health care. Isn’t that an embarrassment? Isn’t that unchristian?
    Or should socialism just be for the rich? Wall Street gets bailed out, so what about regular people?
    Should the mainstream media companies–all 5 of them–who control the legacy media continue to brainwash the American people? Then we’ll all get behind Israel and the destruction of what’s left of the Middle East. Is that a good outcome?
    Face it. Old structures are breaking down. Healthcare doesn’t work in America. Increasing income inequality is breaking up the fabric of our society.
    What’s wrong with change that works for ordinary people, even the brown people?

  2. anon[393] • Disclaimer says:

    The current system will come crashing down in the next few decades: NYC has an enormous and growing debt and may go bankrupt during the next recession; California can’t afford to lose even a small percentage of its rich; American companies absolutely can’t compete against their Asian rivals; the end of the petrodollar is a real possibility as the US increasingly exports oil; US regime changes are failing world wide; the EU defies Washington over Iran; American elites are incompetent buffoons; book banning and censorship are present and will only grow worse with time; the republican party is hopelessly corrupt and inept; the president we elected is an empty suit who cares only for Israel …

    With the brakes off, the democrat coalition will be free to pack the supreme court and strip the right of all its freedoms. Additionally, expect the economy to go into a tailspin from mismanagement (Housing Crisis 2.0). Dark times ahead. I think we need a plan B.

    This kind of government just isn’t going to work out. Personally, I think this is the time we should be considering parting ways with it. For example, if Alabama seceded, it would have demographics not far off from the US in the 1980s (I believe it is now much whiter than the national average). Afterwards, the further importation of a few million conservative republicans would make it a whitetopia; and since political persuasion is heritable, it would likely be a permanently stable nation, unlike the current metastable mess we find ourselves in. There is potential here for those who might want to seize it. Personally, if these authoritarians want to disposes me, I’d like to depart them. We owe them no loyalty.

    • Replies: @dvorak
    , @peterAUS
  3. anon[393] • Disclaimer says:

    “What’s wrong with change that works for ordinary people, even the brown people?”

    I agree with everything you wrote above that. However, I see no reason why we can’t have all of that as separate countries. And as separate countries, we’d get the benefit of also being able to preserve our freedoms and culture + we’d win every election in the process.

  4. Daniel H says:

    Pat should have been saying this in the 80s/90s, but he was all gung ho rah, rah Ronnie back then. Awww, “Nobody was aware of the demographic shift going on back then…..” Bullshit, I was aware, and shouted it out loud to any and all. Now, it’s too late. It’s too late. It’s too late. The best we can hope for is peaceful nullification/separation. The alternatives are much worse. I hate Republicans.

    • Replies: @lavoisier
    , @Eric Novak
  5. G. Poulin says:
    @john dordan

    Oh, shut up about Christianity. You don’t know a goddam thing about it.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  6. Solzhenitsyn said we are here
    Because we rejected God.
    Who will shed a tear
    When we burn down liberty’s abode?

  7. dvorak says:

    Why should NYC go bankrupt when Manhattan alone has $1.74 trillion of real estate value to tax? Your analysis – more like barstool rant – sucks.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  8. Anonymous[409] • Disclaimer says:

    Pat should have been saying this in the 80s/90s



    What’s the matter with you?

    • Replies: @Daniel H
    , @MarkinLA
  9. Hail says: • Website

    to convert the GOP into America’s permanent minority party

    This is clearly too narrow a view.

    The people doing this are motivated by race, not by allegiance to some political party as some kind of grand strategy to win elections.

  10. Hail says: • Website

    We do not select NFL coaches or corporate executives or college professors or generals or admirals by plebiscite. What is the empirical evidence that this is the best way to choose a president or commander in chief?

    Especially when the ‘plebiscite’ is racialized.

    Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore said people in multiracial nominal-democracies always vote on the basis of race and religion. This is clearly not a good idea at all, and it is why Lee Kuan Yew proudly ran a one-party state ensuring unquestioned ethnic-Chinese political supremacy over Singapore.

    The serious damage that could be done by voting “race over quality” (ex.: Ocasio ‘Airhead’ Cortez) is softened only by the presence of the Deep State behind the increasingly-shabby-looking curtain of the small-d democratic dog-and-pony show. (Trump, mid 2015 to early 2017, was off-script but has since returned to the arms of the men behind the curtain.)

  11. Heymrguda says:

    Socialism is absolutely inevitable in any democracy. Seceding and/or separate countries won’t help, the leftists will simply relocate there after conditions in their territories or states become intolerable.

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
  12. anon[372] • Disclaimer says:

    What is the empirical evidence that this is the best way to choose a president or commander in chief?

    I must admit I don’t have an answer to this question. Democracy is failing all around us as the voters are proving to be as stupid as predicted.
    However I would ask a counter question. What is the evidence that Republics do any better? To the extent we had a Republic in the past, its leaders made the fatal errors of starting an Empire which is now consuming us, and of allowing a cabal of financiers to rob our treasury and gut our economy. The poisonous fruit we are harvesting today is from seeds planted by the leaders of the Republic. Was there ever a Republic that didn’t degenerate into tyranny?

  13. Issac says:

    The GOP did this to themselves. They chose death over populism and they shall receive both. The GOP will die and the left will absorb a tidal wave of economic populists.

  14. anon[143] • Disclaimer says:

    “Why should NYC go bankrupt when Manhattan alone has $1.74 trillion of real estate value to tax? Your analysis – more like barstool rant – sucks.”

    NYC liabilities now exceed a quarter trillion dollars and is growing. There is no way that city could ever hope to tax “real estate” to make up for it. Insults are the last resort of the ignorant.

    “Last October, the city said that its long-term liabilities, including bonded debt, pensions, and other retirement benefits for its public sector workers, reached a record $257.3billion, an increase of $4.7billion since fiscal year 2017. The average liability per New York City household has increased by more than $1,500 to $82,577, according to the Citizens Budget Commission.”

  15. anon[143] • Disclaimer says:

    “Your analysis – more like barstool rant – sucks.”

    It was a well written comment as evidenced by your complete inability to challenge anything in it. The one thing you had to offer was quickly debunked. Your analysis – more like angry spouting – sucks.

  16. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Daniel H

    I said it too. Nothing good was going to come from the mass importation of the Third World to the West.


  17. lavoisier says: • Website

    The electorate must be competent for a Democracy to function.

    Today being incompetent, or illegal, or a felon, or even dead are qualities prized by the Democratic party.

  18. anon[926] • Disclaimer says:

    “Manhattan alone has $1.74 trillion of real estate value to tax.”

    Not really, no. Your use of the word ‘alone’ here implies that there is this huge pool of free money available elsewhere when there really isn’t. Manhattan is far above the other boroughs in terms of taxable real estate. Further, NYC already has very high taxes, so they are pushing up against the limits of what they can do on that front; that’s why they needed Amazon, and that’s why De Blasio refused to consider further tax hikes. Combine that with a net out migration and growing pension liabilities – among others – and a severe recession might very well bankrupt the city. Taxing that real estate, which you erroneously think is a good idea, would probably only worsen the problem as companies and rich individuals flee the area for low tax havens elsewhere. The cost of doing business in that city is insane as it stands now; DC Comics, for example, moved out of NYC and to California after doing business in the city for 80 years due, in part, to the high cost of doing business there. Making it more expensive won’t help.

  19. Daniel H says:

    Bullshit. In the 80s/90s Pat didn’t go near the subject of immigration. He was too involved with establishment Republicans back them. The issues that consumed him were anti-Communism and low taxes. He was part of the rah, rah Ronnie wing of the Republican party. There was nothing ailing America that a few more tax cuts and increased military spending couldn’t solve. Search the record. Only in the late 90s did he make the first bleatings about immigration, then he backtracked and has only really come around in the past decade. Too late. Too late. He had an opportunity to use his access and presence in the mainstream media back then, but he didn’t use it, because he didn’t believe that immigration was a problem. Face it. But it’s too late now. Democrats will win in 2020 and they will win every subsequent presidential election, forever.

    The only politician in America talking about demographic shift/excessive immigration in the 1980s was liberal, former Democrat governor of Colorado, Richard Lamm. Nobody listened. Why should day, it was “morning in America”, “thousand points of light”, “the shining city on the hill” and all that other happy, clappy Republican rhetorical bullshit.

    As a nation, we are mortally wounded, bleeding out, slowly but steadily. Most don’t know it yet, but they will start knowing real soon.

  20. Daniel H says:

    Is Trump cucking out? I’m with HER (Ann Coulter). If Trump cucks out, cut him loose.

    • Replies: @Hail
  21. US Navy officers devote their lives to preparing for responsibility, study relentlessly, spend years away from home, are paid a fraction of their civilian worth, take orders from people they dislike, perform missions they find distasteful, eat restricted diets, sleep odd hours, observe a restrictive moral code, are assessed against a host of metrics, constantly watched for dishonesty and tried in special courts if they err. The idea that aspiring admirals would join a faction or publicly campaign for election is laughable. Instead, Human Resources experts in the Bureau of Naval Personnel recommend promotions to elected officials, who must confirm them.

    For two thousand years China has required aspiring politicians to devote their lives to preparing for responsibility, study continuously, spend years away from home, be paid a fraction of their civilian worth, take orders from people they dislike, eat restricted diets, sleep odd hours, observe a restrictive moral code, be evaluated against a host of metrics, be constantly monitored for immorality and tried in special courts if they err.

    Though commanding a fleet is an awesome responsibility governing a country, as Pat infers, is an order of magnitude more difficult, yet we permit ambitious amateurs to join political factions, solicit campaign funds and make unfulfillable promises to reach the pinnacle of power.

    Our process that has nothing to do with democracy: it’s simply how the Romans did it.

    Britain, a former Roman colony, copied them and the US, a former British colony, copied them.

    Roman politics has never had a moral filter to exclude blackguards and, in the absence of a moral filter, says Martha Stout[1], “Politicians are more likely than people in the general population to be sociopaths…That a small minority of human beings literally have no conscience was and is a bitter pill for our society to swallow–but it does explain a great many things, shamelessly deceitful political behavior being one.”

    Time for a moral filter?

    [1] The Sociopath Next Door, by Martha Stout Ph.D.

    • Replies: @RVBlake
  22. IMHO, the sooner the US breaks apart the better. You can’t put Humpty Dumpty back together again. But, in the interim, I’ll shed no tears for the death of the Stupid Party, aka the Republicans. They are just as braindead as the Dems. Once the GOP dies or becomes just a fringe party, I don’t see any scenario in which the Dems just stay together in one mammoth party. There are too many factions, and I can envision them splitting in two once the likes of Neocon Israel-firsters Trump, Pompeo, Pence, Bolton, and especially Chickenhawk Little Marco Rubio are swept into the trash bin of history. That is, if we don’t suffer nuclear devastation first.

    • Replies: @Daniel H
  23. Hail says: • Website
    @Daniel H

    cut him loose

    Buchanan Coulter 2020

    • Replies: @Daniel H
    , @follyofwar
  24. MarkinLA says:

    Wrong. Pat has written that he supported Reagan’s amnesty. It was probably because he was such a Reagan fanboy that he felt Reagan could do no wrong.

  25. MarkinLA says:

    It is easier and cheaper to coopt a Republic especially when people of such a low character as we have (and political parties) are the leadership. A democracy NEVER would have passed the 1986 amnesty.

  26. MarkinLA says:
    @Daniel H

    The Republicans have always believed the Mexicans were their niggers if they gave them amnesty.

    • Replies: @KenH
  27. @G. Poulin

    Perhaps he was referring to what is termed Christian values rather than the fictional mythology itself.

  28. Daniel H says:

    >> Chickenhawk Little Marco Rubio

    Marco Rubio, Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham….. all of a kind. Treacherous.

  29. Daniel H says:

    Uhhhh…..No. Ann doesn’t need any of these iPhaggots. I would be happy and proud to serve as Ann’s drone.

  30. Anonymous[312] • Disclaimer says:

    As you increase the tax burden, you lower the value.

  31. Realist says:

    I must admit I don’t have an answer to this question. Democracy is failing all around us as the voters are proving to be as stupid as predicted.

    Democracy always fails. A system of government that allows idiots to vote is doomed to fail.

  32. KenH says:

    It didn’t work out that way in 1986 and it’s not working out that way now. Several sources documented a 6% increase in hispanic support for the Democrats after the 1986 amnesty.

  33. KenH says:

    This article should be titled “How White America is to be Dispossessed” Pat is using middle class as a euphemism for white so he doesn’t get in hot water with the establishment and (((powers that be))).

    After the Democrats got badly routed in the 2010 midterms and the Obama agenda got stopped they resolved to capture and keep Congress and this “for the radical left wing agenda” bill will do precisely that and more.

    The man who supposed to stop and reverse some of this and who we elected president is failing and becomes more like Marco Rubio every day. The political party that is supposed to oppose this is a dithering bunch of fools who are loyal only to the donor class and spent their first two years controlling all branches of government rewarding the donor class.

  34. RVBlake says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    Indeed. I don’t recall the author, but I’ve always believed the adage that anyone who lusts after power should never receive it.

  35. Mark G. says:
    @john dordan

    The 90% tax rate worked under Ike because it only applied to a very small percentage of the population, there were more deductions, and the overall amount of taxes as percentage of GDP was smaller than it is now because government spending was lower then. The people who like the 90% top tax rate back then usually don’t actually want any of the other things that made that era better in a lot of ways.

  36. AWM says:

    I won’t miss the Repubs at all, the Dems I know are Marxists, have always known, but the Repubs were the ones who pretended to be our friends. They have made the unforgivable mistake, and they will pay an unimaginable high price for that deception.
    There are millions and millions of us that feel that way, and guess what, we are all armed!

    • Agree: Daniel H, TTSSYF
  37. Paul says:

    Pat Buchanan writes: “If one day not far off, as seems probable, tax consumers achieve a permanent hegemony over the nation’s taxpayers . . . ”

    We already have that situation with military contractors — socialism for the rich.

  38. Pat


    The only proper sane response to this is a WORKING CLASS NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN RACE REVOLT!!!!

    And it starts with not consenting to be governed by Hindu-Jamaican POTUS Kamala Harris…..

    Turn off the GD Negro Ball…..turn that sewage off….

    The Native Born White American Historic Majority at some point in time should burn the Nation down rather than let the Chinese….Hindus…Sihks…Pakistani Muslims claim it for themselves….BURN THE WHOLE FUCKING THING DOWN…BURN IT DOWN!!!!…..ok, and that’s the memo!

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
    , @anonymous
  39. @john dordan

    High marginal income taxes hit only the “working wealthy” like surgeons and mid-sized business owners. Go ahead, reduce their incentives to produce. That’ll be a real help to us.

    You hate wealth inequality? Tax wealth. Oh, sure, that’ll go well….let politicians strip people of WHAT THEY ALREADY OWN?

    The stuff that doesn’t work now (medical services, for example) is a disaster BECAUSE of political intervention… (read some Market-Ticker dot org for Denninger’s rants about the medical services cartel and how it’s destroying us, courtesy of politicians and bureaucrats.)

    There are no political solutions to problems created by politics.

  40. @Hail

    Buchanan/Coulter 2020?

    I know very old senior citizens now think they still have what it takes to become potus (Sanders/Biden), but Pat is even 3 years older than Bernie. Replace Pat with Tucker Carlson – then you’d really have a formidable ticket!

    • Replies: @Hail
  41. @Heymrguda

    All roads lead to war.

    The notion that Productive (read: mostly white) Americans will sit down and be CHATTEL SLAVES to a brown/black/Asian political coalition of slave-masters is absurd.

    Wars have been fought over far less.

    If the Dems actually succeed in creating a “permanent” overclass coalition of parasites, sooner or later the pushback will be as Mount Tamboro blowing its top. THIS ISN’T SOUTH AFRICA.

    WHEN (not if) this Long Boom (enabled only by the delusion of putting everything on the National MasterCard) ends and people are THROWN into the poverty that is now only thinly disguised, tolerance for all this crap will evaporate. Raw hatred will seek targets. Leftists and their pets will be front-and-center.

    There’s no going back to the past. This means that either a real, hot, open civil war occurs to determine who will run what is now the USA, or (more likely) various regions of the USA will secede and The American Experiment will officially end.

    (I aver that it actually ended with the dilution of America’s founding WASP stock back in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, and that the follow-on to that was the Hart-Celler Immigration Act of 1965, which proved to drive millions of nails into the coffin of the already dead Republic.)

  42. @anon

    It’s childish to believe there’s a “set and forget” system that yields Utopia.

    All things change. Success itself plants the seeds of future failure, because people become besotted with self-satisfaction and come to believe their own self-flattering lies.

    Men have observed the cycles of human history for thousands of years. It was only in recent times people became so clueless that they came to think this is a Permanent Plenitude. (That no one seems to notice how much of today’s living standards exist only due to “putting it on the plastic” is just more evidence that we have far more stupid people alive now than ever before, and our trust in our “experts” is childish, stupid and stuffed with future hardship.

    We’re getting weaker (physically, immunologically, intellectually) with every generation now. Sooner or later this will result in a return of Nature’s harsh culling of the weak, only now it will resume on a planet with billions of people on it.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  43. @War for Blair Mountain

    One does wonder how all the Magic Negro brainwashing will play out.

    Americans sit in front of the TV and have one program after another and one commercial after another pour into his or her brain how every other doctor, CEO, Lawyer or even God himself is a black man or black woman.

    Between that and how we see how WON.DER.FUL are gays (why, they’re all soccer dads who dress nice and are oh-so-nice neighbors) and that trannies aren’t crazy at all, they’re just like us only, well, not so much….

    Video bypasses what little cognitive “suspicion” exists in anyone’s mind. It is the ultimate brainwashing system, and for decades it has brainwashed people into believing things that are palpably false:
    Blacks are less wealthy, etc., only because of white racism.
    Homosexuals are just like heterosexuals.

    It’s all a cargo cult.

    People are not fungible. It’s cargo cult thinking to believe you can simply swap a WASP man who occupies a position of high productivity and innovation in favor of a black, a woman, an Indian, a Chinese, etc., and you still get the same (or even better?!) high productivity and innovation.

    People are not interchangeable. But that’s what this cult believes, and they seem intent on destroying all of us in the interest of proving themselves right…even if the map they use to “navigate” is a warped caricature of the territory it claims to represent.

    All roads lead to war. If the current trend lasts long enough, it will truly usher in a Zombie Apocalypse.

    • Replies: @Charles_Martel
  44. Geronimo says:
    @john dordan

    It should be illegal to become a billionnaire . OK , you’re good at something , you get paid , but not billions . Beyond a reasonable home , a couple of cars , yachts , planes , some jewelry and a few million dollars , everything should be very heavily taxed . MAGA !

  45. @dc.sunsets


    No? The U.S. has fewer blacks, which puts a temporary speed bump in the way of white genocide in the U.S. But the U.S. has more Jews, plus an ever-growing Hispanic population that Jews can manipulate, canceling out any advantage U.S. whites have in the survival game. The racial steamroller gathers speed by the day, with most palefaces celebrating their coming demise while ritualistically chanting “Multiculturalism! Multiculturalism! It’s what’s for breakfast, lunch and dinner!”

  46. Saving Middle America and saving the Republican Party are two different and contradictory things. Mr. Buchanan ought to know that by now.

  47. @dc.sunsets

    Bro, bringing in southern and Eastern Europeans was not any part of our nation’s infiltration and decline. If you don’t already wish you could trade fifty million Anti-White noneuropeans for more of us Italians, Slavs, and the like, it’s hard to know what country you’re living in.

    All we Eastern and Southern Europeans did was bring some productive, hardworking, patriotic, loyal people who have the intelligence, genetic proximity, and cultural proximity to assimilate and improve the country — and often better-looking people with better food, too, compared to the Brits (you’re welcome 😉

    We European-Americans should all be united in removing, excluding, or imprisoning people who actually undermine our civilization, are too violent or disagreeable for our safety and peace of mind, and/or work collectively to favor their tribes at our expense, such as, on balance, Africans, waddling lower-intelligence mexicans and mestizo Latin Americans, and especially Muslims, Chinese, and Indians.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  48. CMC says:

    Are all the Pat Buchanan comment threads on Unz full of baloney or just this one?

    I see both Infogalactic and Wikipedia report him as saying, in 1992:

    If we had to take a million immigrants in, say Zulus, next year, or Englishmen, and put them in Virginia, what group would be easier to assimilate and would cause less problems for the people of Virginia?

    Wik also cites an interesting 1984 quote.

  49. Well, Pat, why don’t you run for POTUS on a ticket with Ann Coulter—one of the few tickets that Democratic cross-over voters, like me, could support, assumimg the candidates on this hypothetical ticket do not side against US citizens on certain third-rail-for-good-reason issues. Coulter has stated her support for the earned benefit of SSA several times.

    If Joe Biden is not too old to run, then Pat is not too old, and Coulter certainly isn’t. I, for one, am not going to vote for another Republican who will do nothing about the mass-scale, wage-undercutting immigration that I abandoned my lifetime voting pattern to vote against, and at this point, I do not trust many possible candidates to follow through on that issue.

    Voters like me also cannot vote for a Republican who does not appear to understand the difference between contributory social programs that citizens pay into all of their lives, ceding between 7.5 and 15.3% of every meager paycheck, and means-tested, non-contributory, pay-per-birth welfare that covers all of the main household bills of single-breadwinner parents, with up to $6,431 in refundable child tax credit cash on top of it, whether or not they are citizens, as long as they do not work hard, staying under the earned-income limits for the programs.

    This is a brutally unfair system that punishes hard work for low-wage, single earners with no welfare eligibility, leaving them with almost nothing but part-time, low-wage churn jobs, catering to citizens & noncitizens with unearned income for womb productivity that makes the low pay from part-time or temp work feasible.

    From what I see, most Republicans support this form of 100%-free welfare since it facilitates a cheap laborforce for freeloading, welfare-using employers, while many more Republicans are willing to attack the SS & Medicare programs, the latter of which is never, ever free.

    After 65, seniors continue to pay hundreds per month in supplemental premiums, and due to the mighty concentration of wealth and the devaluing of marriage, the number of single senior citizens with a tiny stream of income is much larger. It will be even larger for my generation, the Xers, notwithstanding those non-refundable child-tax-Credit-cashing dual-earner parents, with two earned income streams all through their working years and two SS checks, plus 401k streams all through retirement.

    It is a lot easier to hold a marriage together and to save money with two high-paying jobs to cover major bills, like housing, especially when the parents are above firing despite despite tons of time off (for kids)—days, weeks and months of time off beyond PTO and pregnancy leaves. It is a lot easier to save money for retirement when you do not have to give up anything to do it, including all of those lengthy & expensive vacations than any non-parent would be fired for, pronto, with no mercy.

    Seniors living on 1 SS check have fewer paid-off homes in this era of glorified working moms in dual-earner households & equally glorified, welfare-buttressed, single moms who lose all of that extra, womb-productivity bonus pay from .gov after their kids turn 18, so they must pay those Medicare premiums, plus unaffordable rent, on 1 SS check that is around $1,300 per month on average.

    The rich are out-of-touch with the concept of paying $900-per-month rent for a one-room hovel and all other bills on $1,300 per month, assuming the 80 year old can land one of the “voted-best-for-moms” jobs, catering to single-breadwinner womb producers with unearned income from government for out-of-wedlock reproduction.

    Granted, the 80-year-old applicant has a better chance of getting and keeping that job than a much younger single, childless earner with no unearned income from a spouse or government to make the low pay anywhere near palatable.

    Illegal immigration has a lot to do with 40 years of falling wages and the demise of the US middle class, as does the outright greed of Uniparty politicans—the leaders in both ethically amorphous parties who worked hand-in-hand with corporations to bring in all of this cheap, welfare-assisted immigrant labor and to set up the anti-marriage, anti-single-childless individual, single-mom welfare-plantation laborforce.

    It is not just a minority labor force, either, and Republicans & Democrats might be surprised at how many of the women that they pay for womb-productive sex via the rigged welfare system are not even registered to vote. Yet, they put my economic interests, and the interests of other registered likely voters, dead last in every single policy gesture. They may as well let illegal aliens vote. It will not make any difference to the way reliable voters, like me, are treated in all policy matters.

    This corrupt economic system, which has shifted all the money to a tiny elite and their welfare-privileged servants, has resulted in an economic situation where many of the people who might be open to voting for Republicans simply cannot afford to do so, especially when they have this cavalier, unrealistic attitude about SS & Medicare for the far-less-employable people above age 65 who paid into the programs.

    Many political candidates in both parties have so little clue about the way the labor market operates, or they just don’t care. Trump convinced a lot of people who either voted out of loyalty for Dems—even though they disappointed them again & again with more neoliberal policies—or just did not bother to vote for either side of the Uniparty.

    Trump either always was a neoliberal Uniparty Critter, pretending to oppose mass immigration to get elected, or he let himself be swallowed by the Swamp monster and its threatening, legalistic jowels.

    To change their voting patterns in any permanent way, cross-over voters who are not hardcore Republicans, but are not GOPe either, need a clear set of choices, particularly on issues where the party they have always voted for contradicts itself.

    The favoring of illegal aliens over underemployed American citizens was the catalyst for so many red-leaning blue cross-over voters who must be concerned with SS since they paid into the system, ceding what to them is a huge chunk of earnings, and they have no other retirement money because of wages that have not risen in 4o years, while expenses like housing have risen by 72% since 1995.

    So, what does Trump do? He flings dirt in their faces by calling for cuts to Medicare to fund the wall, rather than cuts to the $113 billion in welfare for womb-productive illegal aliens or taxing the billions in remittances sent out of this country each year by noncitizens, working on the cheap for employers who put the USA last.

    He finally gets religion on actually doing something about the wall by choosing to go for the jugular on third-rail, contributory social programs, attacking not the free welfare platter given to the cheap, welfare-assisted immigrant workers who provide subservient labor for the rich, but by attacking the non-free programs for his supporters who paid into SS & Medicare all of their lives.

    This group of likely voters has already seen cuts to Medicare through Obamacare’s cuts to healthcare provider compensation.

    But that way, more expensive illegal alien birthing procedures could be provided scott free, in addition to granting part-time-working single moms the one missing welfare nugget other than free cars: free medical care even after their kids turn 6 months old. “Poor,” part-time-working and non-working single moms always got free medical care upon presenting pregnancy test results to low-wage, but welfare-ineligible, Department of Human Services staff, even before Obamacare.

    All of the many layers of means-tested, womb-productivity freebies (the free housing, food, electrcity amd monthly cash assistance) were unopposed by recent generations of Republicans, the group that designed the refundable child tax credit windfalls up to $6,431, which are often used to fund some very un-conservative $900 tattoos and beach trips to copulate with boyfriends.

    Those womb-productivity freebies, supported by Uniparty Republicans, are the reason for the structural fall in Republican prospects outlined in this article.

    By going along with the welfare-fueled mass-immigration agenda of big corporations since they could provide large campaign contributions and lucrative, post-office-holding opportunities for the politicians and theirs, Republicans dug their own party’s grave.

    Wanton levels of un-conservative welfare-for-womb-productivity made possible the massive, bigger-than-the-Boomers Millennial and Z generations, which, despite their size, are too underemployed to keep up the SS trust fund without raising the cap every 5 minutes. What will happen as automation and the global outsourcing of the online era consume even more jobs than welfare-aided, under-the-table illegal alien workers who do not contribute to SS?

    Our America Last leadership just keeps adding more and more instant citizens via birthright citizenship, and more and more recipients of social programs whose bills are funded by government all during childhood, all during their reproduction years and all through their old age, with only the old-age benefits requiring contributions.

    Conservative court appointees, thus far, have made no difference, siding with cheap-labor-seeking corporations and noncitizens.

    Without a clear opposition to these things, it is hard for people who suffer the biggest economic consequences to vote against core, contributory social programs that they made payments to, decade after decade, while watching citizens and noncitizens undercut them in the labor market due to partaking in a libertine welfare-for-womb-productivity feast. And they won’t, not for the chance that one more un-trustworthy politician, just using the immigration issue to land the job, will actually do what he says. How many of the mostly GOPe Republicans could be trusted—not many, not on all of the most important issues, including the immigration issue.

  50. CMC says:

    What’s the term for when a really long comment follows your comment and thereby essentially blows your comment off the page? I read it somewhere about controlled or trolled forums.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  51. core, contributory social programs that they made payments to, decade after decade

    Republicans call them “entitlements” – implying that they are a form of undeserved gift from the government. And the strategy is to cut taxes, which leads to a deficit, which they hope to use to justify privatization of Social Security and Medicare.

    Pat Buchanan and Donald Trump are nostalgic about the 50’s but fail to mention that American middle class prosperity was made possible by the New Deal, strong unions, government involvement in the construction of housing (Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were owned by the government) etc.

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  52. Rurik says:

    Take a trip overseas,

    get familiar with the process and keep your passport up to date.

    We’re on borrowed time here in the good ol’ ZUS of A.

  53. istevefan says:
    @john dordan

    What’s wrong with going back to Ike’s top marginal rate of 90%?

    What’s wrong with going back to the demographics of Ike’s America? You give me that and you can have your 90% marginal rate.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  54. peterAUS says:

    There is potential here for those who might want to seize it.

    There is.

    The problem is, that would require a lot of competent work.
    Or, on a practical level, the vast majority of people who are unhappy with the current paradigm simply aren’t good enough to execute any meaningful change. We are talking about the group from low middle class to underclass.

    While those people do have moral fortitude and heart in the right place they, unfortunately, do NOT have expertise.
    That idea of yours demands members of the CURRENT elite to join and then organize and lead. Simple as that.

    From top state politicians and economists to members of “three letters” agencies and military personnel. Top level.

    I am positive there are people on that level who feel similar to what “deplorables” fee.
    The TRICK is to find them.

    As I see all this at the moment, I feel it simply requires a true American entrepreneur, a hard and honest businessman in fact, who will find those guys. Get them onboard. “Connect” the top and the bottom.

    Connect, essentially, some top members of the “managerial” class with “deplorables”. Connect a detonator with an explosive, if you will. To get into analogy better, a smart, sophisticated high tech detontor with a huge mass of explosive.
    The explosion could then carve, and…well….reorganize…. a feasible teritory you are talking about.

    That’s the key, IMHO.

  55. Asagirian says: • Website

    Instead of America First, we are gonna get American BURST.

    Saving white America? That ship has has sailed already.

    The only thing left for white America is revenge… like with Lady Kaeda in RAN(Kurosawa).

    End the GOP. All whites join the Democrats. Whites embrace non-whites as fellow gentiles. Point to Jewish elites as the privileged and powerful. Bring it down.

    And then, history will get really interesting. An empire without an head. It will fall apart.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  56. Baxter says:

    i lived in the same area for 38 years and within a hundred miles of where my ancestors settled in the mid 1800s. They migrated from South Carolina. I wonder what they would think of our new minority majority multi-whatever society.
    I do not feel a part of this society. I do feel I have let my ancestors down, as well as my future children.
    Perhaps the death of America will be life for the rest of the world.

  57. Corvinus says:

    “What’s wrong with going back to the demographics of Ike’s America?”

    How going back to the 1850’s demographics–decidedly WASP and few Eastern and Southern Europeans?

    “You give me that and you can have your 90% marginal rate.”

    The 90% marginal rate would actually significantly impact Jew money and the elites who promote globalism.

  58. Corvinus says:

    “WHEN (not if) this Long Boom (enabled only by the delusion of putting everything on the National MasterCard) ends and people are THROWN into the poverty that is now only thinly disguised, tolerance for all this crap will evaporate. Raw hatred will seek targets. Leftists and their pets will be front-and-center.”

    I see you are back for yet another installment of Chicken Little.

  59. Corvinus says:

    “Bro, bringing in southern and Eastern Europeans was not any part of our nation’s infiltration and decline.”

    LOL, so now you are believing in magic dirt? Typical. Look out for your own skin in the game.

    “If you don’t already wish you could trade fifty million Anti-White noneuropeans for more of us Italians, Slavs, and the like, it’s hard to know what country you’re living in.”

    WASPs despised Eastern and Southern Europeans. They brought in disease, pauperism, and Roman Catholicism. The Mediterranean types were on the bottom rung of the European totem pole. Why do you think the Immigration Acts of 1921 and 1924 sought to significantly curtail their inclusion into the American body politic?

    “All we Eastern and Southern Europeans did was bring some productive, hardworking, patriotic, loyal people who have the intelligence, genetic proximity, and cultural proximity to assimilate and improve the country — and often better-looking people with better food, too, compared to the Brits”.

    LOL. Not according to nativists. These groups were decidedly of low intelligence and were genetically and culturally disparate of the native stock. Why are you trying to white wash history here?

    “We European-Americans should all be united in removing, excluding, or imprisoning people who actually undermine our civilization…”

    Except it was not YOUR civilization. America was founded by the hardy English, Cornish, Welsh, and Scots. To quote Paul Harvey–“Once upon a time, we elbowed our way onto and into this continent by giving small pox infected blankets to native Americans. Yes, that was biological warfare! And we used every other weapon we could get our hands on to grab this land from whomever. And we grew prosperous. And, yes, we greased the skids with the sweat of slaves.”

    “are too violent or disagreeable for our safety and peace of mind, and/or work collectively to favor their tribes at our expense, such as, on balance, Africans, waddling lower-intelligence mexicans and mestizo Latin Americans, and especially Muslims, Chinese, and Indians.”

    Replace “Africans, mexicans mestizo Latin Americans, and especially Muslims, Chinese, and Indians” with “Slavs, Poles and Italians, and Jews, Romani, and Bulgarian, and you are speaking the WASP native tongue of the late 1800’s!

  60. TTSSYF says:

    Not sure, but I think I know why some of my comments take a long time to get approved and posted.

  61. @Corvinus

    I see that you are still in the midst of the ongoing choking of your little chicken.

  62. Hail says: • Website

    One thing we’ve learned from the failure of Trump:

    Known, longterm moral seriousness > Big talk from out of nowhere.

    Trump really was a demagogue. He has now largely been ‘outted’ as such except to a rearguard of low-info fans (most people are “low-info,” alas.)

    I cannot disagree that Pat Buchanan is more advanced in age than ideal, but that he is a known-quantity with absolute moral seriousness of purpose is more important than age. I do think Tucker qualifies on these grounds, as well.

  63. Trump actually won the popular vote. So did Kerry. Obama won much much more of the popular vote than the official vote says.

  64. @Corvinus

    Depends on how you apply said rate. In Ike’s time there was no “Great” Society to feed.

    And no they don’t wanna go back that far, it’s just the browns and blacks that cause them trouble.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  65. @john dordan

    90% is not a little socialism at all, and other things in Ike’s time were different, both from right and left, helping out this arrangement (small descentralized administration, tons of families, unions, factory work, gi bill, Europe paying us back from rescuing them, no great society, no encouragement of single mothers), but I get your point.
    Which is to say that you think just one somewhat good statist proposal (who cares, nationalists are not libertarians) and think it will solve everything. So you sound like the right wingers you came to hate on, claiming the wall or the tax cut will solve everything. In fact, you just came and spouted this without reading Buchanan’s article at all. Buchanan’s point is precisely that the left is going far beyond just asking for the 90% tax on marginal rate.

  66. @Corvinus

    Again, 1920 to 1965, a repeat is needed to achieve similar results.
    Oh and a world war to unite the country would help as well.

  67. swamped says:

    We do not select NFL coaches or corporate executives or college professors or generals or admirals by plebiscite. What is the empirical evidence that this is the best way to choose a president or commander in chief?” Given the high turnover rate of NFL coaches, corporate executives, generals & admirals, maybe they don’t have the best ways to choose either. As to what tenured prof’s have been teaching their students lately, it’s questionable if the rest of society wants to behave like a college campus. Nonetheless, this is a very chilling question. It implies that voting should be done away with altogether, perhaps in favor of some kind of fascism. And we all know what the empirical evidence for that is. Despite its many flaws “our democracy” does at least, appear to be a more attractive stock than that.

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    , @Eric Novak
  68. That is a click-bait title.

  69. Pat, “How Middle America Is to be Dispossessed”?

    Er, by armed settler supremacists brandishing assault rifles and “valid” court orders?

    Nothing like a little state-sponsored cleansing and expropriation.

    After all, the president’s greatest foreign “ally” does it all the time with no ill consequences.

  70. TTSSYF says:

    And your side of the political spectrum is not busy running around like Chicken Littles with their heads cut off, crying about how we’re all going to literally burn up in ten years?

  71. Patrick B., come now – the president is “dispossessing” middle America via “massive tax cuts for the middle class” , cuts and threats to their healthcare coverage, “massive infrastructure/jobs spending” and a huge ramp up in defence spending to carry on neocon/likud regime change plans globally.

    Yup, that’s the way real billionaires “dispossess” the rest of the country – via “socialism” for themselves. The middle class are “winning like they never won before”, they’re clearly “sick” of winning and “can’t take it” any longer.

    Enjoy it Pat, this “paradise” won’t last forever (despite your best excuses).

  72. Corvinus says:
    @Disordered (with a bad memory)

    “Depends on how you apply said rate. In Ike’s time there was no “Great” Society to feed.”

    Actually, Ike supported many of those programs. He just kept the funding levels the same–no increases.

    “And no they don’t wanna go back that far, it’s just the browns and blacks that cause them trouble.”

    Whites cause a lot of trouble, too.

  73. Corvinus says:

    “The only thing left for white America is revenge… like with Lady Kaeda in RAN(Kurosawa).”

    LOL, and we have yet another armchair warrior chiming in. So when can we expect you to pull a St. Breivik?

  74. when4us says:

    It just occured to me old Patrick, as middle America is being “dispossessed” by the president, who is not seeing any cut to their benefits or support – actually, something of a major increase?

    Alas, a typical result from team “America First”.

  75. @Corvinus

    Some of us can actually “do” abstract cognition.

    Those stuck in Piage’s stage 4 (concrete thinking) can’t keep up. Sorry, honey, but the 2-sd communication gap rears its head once again.

    Do yourself a favor. Try to look at these two graphs and explain them. Then, maybe you’re able to have this dialogue.

    In short, if you think this is a picture of sustainable goodness, I guess you and I remain that 2-SD (or more) gulf apart.

  76. It’s all very sad. But it’s not like the GOP deserves to live.

    • Replies: @Franz
  77. @swamped

    Consider doing an internet search for Hans Hermann Hoppe and “Democratic Leviathan,” read it (it’s pretty short) and get back to us if you still think democracy is more attractive than pretty much any alternative.

    Actually, I’ll save you the trouble:

    Just an excerpt:

    More importantly, however, theory contradicts this interpretation; whereas both monarchies and democracies are deficient as states, democracy is worse than monarchy at keeping the size and reach of the state in check.

    Theoretically speaking, the transition from monarchy to democracy involves no more or less than a hereditary monopoly “owner” (the prince or king) being replaced by temporary and interchangeable monopoly “caretakers” (presidents, prime ministers, and members of parliament). Both kings and presidents will produce bads, yet a king, because he “owns” the monopoly and may sell or bequeath it, will care about the repercussions of his actions on capital values.

    As the owner of the capital stock on “his” territory, the king will be comparatively future-oriented. In order to preserve or enhance the value of his property, he will exploit only moderately and calculatingly. In contrast, a temporary and interchangeable democratic caretaker does not own the country, but as long as he is in office he is permitted to use it to his advantage. He owns its current use but not its capital stock. This does not eliminate exploitation. Instead, it makes exploitation shortsighted (present-oriented) and uncalculated, i.e., carried out without regard for the value of the capital stock.

    Nor is it an advantage of democracy that free entry into every state position exists (whereas under monarchy entry is restricted by the king’s discretion). To the contrary, only competition in the production of goods is a good thing. Competition in the production of bads is not good; in fact, it is sheer evil. Kings, coming into their position by virtue of birth, might be harmless dilettantes or decent men (and if they are “madmen,” they will be quickly restrained or if need be, killed, by close relatives concerned with the possessions of the dynasty).

    In sharp contrast, the selection of government rulers by means of popular elections makes it essentially impossible for a harmless or decent person to ever rise to the top. Presidents and prime ministers come into their position as a result of their efficiency as morally uninhibited demagogues. Hence, democracy virtually assures that only dangerous men will rise to the top of government.

    In particular, democracy promotes an increase in the social rate of time preference (present-orientation) or the “infantilization” of society. It results in continually increased spending and taxes, paper money and paper money inflation, an unending flood of legislation, and a steadily growing “public” debt. By the same token, democracy leads to lower savings, increased legal uncertainty, moral confusion, lawlessness, and crime. Further, democracy is a tool for wealth and income confiscation and redistribution. It involves the legislative “taking” of the property of some (the haves) and the “giving” of it to others (the have-nots).

    And since it is presumably something valuable that is being redistributed–of which the haves have too much and the have-nots too little–any such redistribution implies that the incentive to be of value or produce something valuable is systematically reduced. In other words, the proportion of not-so-good people and not-so-good personal traits, habits, and forms of conduct and appearance will increase, and life in society will become increasingly unpleasant.

  78. Ah, the Mises “institute”.

    They have a perfect score of identifying what they refer to as “mal-investment” episodes – but, only after those booms have gone bust.

    That’s why they’re not very useful chaps and it drives them crazy – causing them to lash out at every one else’s record of prediction.

    I remember with great mirth how many of these “Austrians” also happened to be “peak oil” fans right at the energy price highs of Summer 2014 – only to have to suffer a whopping price collapse that took the price of Brent slightly below that of its 2008/09 crisis low.

    They argued sheepishly a short while after “the fall” that there was some “mal-investment” that had taken place.

    Still, they never did admit to being part of any over-enthusiasm.

    So too with the gold and silver market in 2011.

    It’s a real knack they have.

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
    , @dc.sunsets
  79. @briefisbetter

    At least TRY to address the philosophical points Hoppe made, rather than changing the subject to some sort of rant-worthy strawman.

    For all practical purposes EVERYONE who made predictions these past 25 years got it all wrong. If you disagree, please share with everyone your trading account in S&P futures, documenting how you turned $10,000 into $50 billion. Yeah, that’s about what I could have done had I imagined in 1995 that the bond bull market that began in 1981 would run for 35 years and that it would coincide with the largest credit bubble and build-up in debt in human history, a feedback loop that skewed asset prices to the moon.

    Maybe James K. Glassman’s Dow 36,000 will prove out as prophetic. But my bet is that this isn’t Nirvana, and that things that can’t go on forever eventually stop, even if that point is unimaginably beyond any prior guess of sane limits.

    Recall that Mises himself irrefutably demonstrated in 1922’s Socialism that any s0-called economy based on socialist calculation was doomed to collapse, yet the USSR outlived him. Being right about ones theory isn’t the same thing as being right in a time-frame that is relevant to an individual. Economists are uniformly awful traders.

    There’s a reported $250 trillion in USD denominated debt in existence now. Maybe we’re near top-tick, maybe it can double or go up tenfold from here, I have no idea (and neither do you.) But eventually it will stop and the rationalizations that allowed it to rise to that will evaporate, causing everyone to reframe existing data.

    The stampede for the exits should be quite a spectacle when it arrives. In the meantime we can marvel at the astonishing level of idiocy among the people sent by voters (we assume) to Washington DC to rule us. Booker, Cortez, Waters, the list of people with sub-100 IQ’s is quite long. Truly our elected representatives are at the forefront of IDIOCRACY.

  80. @briefisbetter

    PS: Mal-investment.

    How’s this for a definition: Congress borrows vast sums of money in the bond market from savers. It then uses this loot to build out massively in all the industries favored by politicians:
    Military Industrial Complex
    Medical/Insurance Cartel (this is the big one.)
    Welfare Administration (including money thrown at refugee resettlement.)
    Higher Education Cartel

    Those industries vastly expand employment, creating vast demand across the economy and economists celebrate the compound rise in “GDP.” Some of the income from all those nice-paying jobs is saved, and finds its way back into the BOND MARKET where it fuels a new round of borrowing by Congress (you could add corporations and consumers to the borrowers list.)

    Rinse and repeat for literally decades. This creates an interesting edifice: A vast amount of the economy now depends entirely on continued and rising BORROWING, the market for which is accumulated SAVINGS. The savings is in the form of IOU’s (future cash flows) which can only be funded by the entire edifice firing on all cylinders, generating GDP and savings, enabling borrowing-and-spending.

    If this Does NOT look like a pyramid scheme to you, you’re too short for this ride.

    No matter how much you love roses, what happens when your rose-growing operation in Fargo ND loses power to the greenhouses in January?

    This is what WILL happen when someday, next month or next decade (?) compound growth in borrowing can no longer be sustained. It’s not a mechanical system, it rests on mass psychology, nothing more. There’s no way to say in advance “how high is up.”

    But anyone who thinks this can be sustained forever is an idiot. And unless the 35 year (1981-2016) bond bull market can be reignited, all roads lead to higher interest rates (i.e., lower bond prices) and that, pal, is where this party ends in a bubonic-plague level hangover.

    Where is a whole lot of wealth sitting? In bonds. In an OCEAN of them. And rising rates is evaporating that value.

  81. Art says:

    When it all crashes, will AOC become the new fascist commie femmi Green Furhrer? She is already drawing big crowds.

    p.s. Have your babies before she takes power.

  82. Hmmm, all pseudo theory and lectures, but no practice make the Austrians profitless bores and windbags.


    • Replies: @Mark G.
  83. Wally says:
    @john dordan

    Top 20% pay 95% of taxes:

    About 50% of workers pay zero fed. taxes but get massive amounts of cash and free stuff as if they did.
    Hell, they even get ‘tax refunds’.

    CA is about 14% of the US population but consumes 30% of all US welfare funding.

  84. KenH says:

    While the Democrats are crafting a legislative strategy to guarantee electoral victory for their side the Republicans once again are left holding their cocks and”muh principles.” If the Republicans were truly a serious political party then they would have enacted an immigration moratorium and repealed birthright citizenship while making the lives of illegal aliens hell to discourage more from coming. They’d also promote high white birth rates.

    Instead the GOP is still the party of corporate tax cuts, foreign regime change (for Izzy) and philo-semitism on steroids. They can’t seem to do much else.

    For decades now conservatism inc., has accepted the browning of America as inevitable and they never spoke out against it cuz Dems R the real racists and we’re all equal. Rather, they thought they could win the brown and black man’s hearts through kindness, economic prosperity and strategic anti-racism but it’s failed miserably.

  85. werehere says:


    How exactly does “U.S. welfare” fund itself (as opposed to trump’s tax cuts for his billionaires)?

    How much “free stuff” does Israel get?

  86. @dc.sunsets

    Thank you dc.sunsets for glaring charts.

    Debt is Mama Satan’s milk.
    The conscienceless use it to bilk
    The know-nothings who dream of silk
    And sell out their children without guilt.

  87. Corvinus says:

    “Some of us can actually “do” abstract cognition.”

    What you are doing here is insisting that a catastrophic financial event will take place and will result in a bloody civil war of epic proportions. In other words, the end result is guaranteed.

    The reality is that it is speculation on your part, sweetie.

    “Do yourself a favor. Try to look at these two graphs and explain them. Then, maybe you’re able to have this dialogue.”

    Certainly it is within the realm of probability that the markets will tank, as evident by the 1987 and 2011 crashes, and there will be political and economic unrest as a result of short-sighted governmental and business policies. That is our history of booms and busts in our capitalist system. What remains certain is that there are American citizens who remain dedicated to put Humpty Dumpty back together again, rather than partake in a scorched earth policy.

    “In short, if you think this is a picture of sustainable goodness, I guess you and I remain that 2-SD (or more) gulf apart.”

    Never made that claim, ma’am. What I am saying is that you expect citizens to go from David Banner to Hulk in a flash, with the consequence being the lopping of liberal heads and the throwing of Jews from helicopters.

    Partition and secession are pipe dreams. However, IF this scenario does unfold, we will then see whether or not the armchair warriors on this fine blog will actually make good with their promise to go full Pinochet.

  88. Oh yes CMC, you’re quite right, hasbara doth do exactly as you say:

    What’s the term for when a really long comment follows your comment and thereby essentially blows your comment off the page? I read it somewhere about controlled or trolled forums.


    • Replies: @peterAUS
  89. peterAUS says:

    A vague idea, of sort. An addition to some previous, recent, musings, about “self-determination” thing. That “think tank”, “feasibility study” etc.

    Perhaps…..those couple of think tank members charged with economy could add this idea, in general, to their study.

    Like… would the “self-determination” entity fix that problem. The problem being automation, the disappearance of meaningful jobs, stuff like that.

    Not only for the working class, that’s given.

    Time is coming, fast, for the middle class, white collar professionals. Medical doctors (general practitioners and such, pharmacists etc). the legal profession, all sorts of consultants…oh, yes, and educational sector ….lots of them.

    I just feel that people would be responsive to the idea of “self…” if they can see some hope and future there.

    Just a thought.

  90. peterAUS says:

    Doesn’t matter. Forget the “general population”, those “peasants” of yours. Waste of time.
    Focus on a message to a couple, not more, of those who aren’t. I have a feeling that’ll be harder and harder on the open Internet rather soon.

    When I check this site I skip over 80 % material, skim through 15 %, and really read not more than 5%.

    Focus, time, energy.

    My two cents, anyway.Free will and such.

  91. Mark G. says:
    @showus-don't tellus

    I call people like this “hit and run leftists”. They drop some inane comment onto a comment section like a smelly turd and then run off. The inane comment will be something like name calling someone a “bore and windbag” followed by no specific examples of what makes them that or why. They don’t want to offer examples or arguments because anything they come up with will be so feeble it will be easily refuted, then making them look like a fool. They really only discredit their own side by doing this. Please kind sir, enlighten us with your superior wisdom about Austrians.

  92. @dc.sunsets

    Well, I don’t disagree in general with your post, but your comment about Chinese and Indians is off base. Let’s face it–most Chinese and Indians in this country are as innovative and productive as your average WASP (a lot of whom, by the way, live in trailer parks, suck up welfare, and are meth heads). And, by and large, the Chinese and Indians hate Muzzies and hold slackers and illegal aliens in contempt.

    And–the Chinese have brought us “happy ending” message parlors, not to mention General Tso’s Chicken.

    • Replies: @Eric Novak
    , @anarchyst
  93. @Daniel H

    He did say it in the ’90s. He ran for President of the United States on it in 1992 and 1996.

  94. @john dordan

    A better solution is to send the next 50,000 uninsured dead back to the Third World, before they vote in Third World Medicare for all. Racial Socialism like yours only works in a nation without 400,000,000 guns in private hands and with full control of the military. The leftist project to turn America into a Third World shîthole to impose Socialism is almost complete. What you didn’t plan on is tens of millions of white natives who will want to shoot you on the street during secession. We’ll be keeping the nukes and the Nat’l Parks.

  95. @Charles_Martel

    Most of the Indians in this country own convenience stores and motels because the SBA gave them Federally-backed, low-interest loans unavailable to white Americans. Did you really think that America just decided to dump the entire hospitality industry because they wanted to become computer programmers?

  96. @swamped

    Rule by the Third World in a racial Socialist-redistributionist regime makes the return of Hitler look sane. We’ve been singing the Horst Wessel Song in anticipation. It will be a beautiful time-especially the revenge.

  97. Is is safe to come out yet?

    Any more Austrian “economic” lectures about how to trade the world’s commodities markets working their way into our wallets via the comments board?

    The hapless Austrians only ever lighten those wallets and drain trading account balances.

    Shush, don’t mention that to them – after all, they’re “really smart”.

  98. Franz says:

    But it’s not like the GOP deserves to live.

    Amen. And then some.

    The only pregnant advice Trump got was from Mike Whitney, who said don’t give any corporate tax breaks; the Piggies only sit on the money or invest it in China. Whitney said just give a $150 per month raise to every retiree and watch the boom that follows.

    (Note to any Antifa around: I am aware that this is right out of the German NSDAP playbook. But others used it earlier, and besides, older workers bankrupted during Wiemar are precise early analogs for the millions of downsized American workers from the last 30 years.)

    The “fat” years under Reagan were fueled a great deal by millions of flush retirees from the Depression through the Korean War years. Retirees buy essentials, hiring young workers, who then have some job security and can start families, buy homes, the whole shot. That money can only trickle down. Corporate money trickles out.

    Flush retiree days are mostly over. Oldsters are either staying on the job till they die or squeezing along on Social Security because their pensions evaporated when the factories were bought out.

    As it is, Trump is doing everything Hillary would have done, only through incompetence instead of malice.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  99. anonymous[163] • Disclaimer says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    Diluvium ignis, te rogamus libera nos. Amen.

    I’m there with you, burn it all down. I now pray the above, every morning, for thermonuclear war to destroy the “Hillary Blue Islands.” If I was in the position of General Ripper, I’d launch Wing Attack Plan R.

    Those “islands” correlate closely to a nuclear target map, save for the ICBM fields in the remote northern plains.

    Of course, there’s fallout to consider. Airbursts would be nice. But country boys know how to dig and hunker down for a spell.

  100. Rich says:
    @Daniel H

    You couldn’t be more wrong. One of Pat’ s big issues when he ran in the Republican primary in 92 was an immigration moratorium.

  101. The “fat years” under Reagan were fueled by massive federal deficits – just like they under this larded president.

    Deficit-financed tax cuts that will “pay for themselves” went the same refrain. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

    It was unfortunate for Reagan that really big boom – the ’90s – came with fiscal restraint.

    trump is getting much economic juice from his already large deficits – among the largest in the developed world. That’s why he is constantly talking up the real economy as representing some sort of miracle.

    It’s a “miracle” alright – of not getting much from spending a boatload.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
    , @Mark G.
  102. olde reb says:

    I believe the problem is that the 535 elected “representatives” of the people are beyond control when they go to D.C. They set their own salaries, judge their own ethics, and are allowed to sell their votes on benefits to deep commercial pockets. If they were elected as state employees, and subject to immediate review and recall by state legislative bodies, at least some control might be possible. It would put teeth in the tenth amendment.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  103. olde reb says:

    I believe the problem is that the 535 elected “representatives” of the people are beyond control when they go to D.C. They set their own salaries, judge their own ethics, and are allowed to sell their votes on benefits to deep commercial pockets. If they were elected as state employees, and subject to immediate review and recall by state legislative bodies, at least some control might be possible. It would put teeth in the tenth amendment.

  104. getthin says:

    trump the borrower-and-spender-in-chief – that’s the problem.

    His fiscal policy is as fat and undisciplined as his own body.

    It really is a case of “what you see is what you get”.

  105. TTSSYF says:

    At least the “fat years” of Reagan and Trump got us some “economic juice” — unlike with Obama, who doubled the national debt with exactly nothing to show for it other than a massive increase in the number of freeloaders on welfare. (Obama also assured us, upon His mere nomination, that history would record that that was the moment when “the oceans began to recede and the planet began to heal.” Meanwhile, this current crop of stupid, crazy Dems are running around and crying about how we’re going to go extinct in 12 years, among other bits of insanity about knocking down walls, reparations, “Medicare for all”, free college, and a multi-trillion-dollar “New Green Deal”. Yeah — I’ll take Reagan and Trump any day over that.)

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  106. Mark G. says:

    The fiscal restraint of the 90s largely came from the peace dividend from the end of the cold war. Clinton does deserve credit for not starting any major wars. Other government spending, though, didn’t really decline. Deficits disappeared because of a decline in defense spending, but also because of an overheated economy created by federal reserve policies that created a stock market bubble that blew up at the end of the decade. You can also add in that the large baby boomer generation were in their peak productive years during that period. That was a one time thing not to be repeated and not something Clinton policies had anything to do with.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  107. No mention of the fat 1990’s – which came with fiscal discipline (which the neo-cons blew with take-2 of the laughable Laffer curve under Cheney.)

    Trump is now take-3 of laughable Laffer-nomics (you know, deficit-financed tax cuts for corporates and the rich which will magically “pay” for themselves – at least in the Republican estimates).

    Of course, that’s if we don’t count Brownback’s recent attempts at a Laffer tax paradise in Kansas – which also had to be reversed by the state’s lawmakers (bi-partisan) before it blew every one up.

    Truly, there isn’t much new under the right-wing sun – merely more. This mirrors trump’s attitude toward fast food. His body is a temple to that philosophy.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  108. anarchyst says:

    There used to be a time when just about ANY immigrant who set upon the shores of America was not only grateful, but willing to shed his “old world” ways and support his adopted country. He might have not known the language, and found some American customs and practices “strange”, but he fully embraced the idea that he could be an AMERICAN. He not only embraced the American ideal, but made damn sure that his children fully appreciated the land in which they were born.
    Contrast that to today’s immigrant, who is only concerned about one thing–American dollars. Today’s immigrants care not about the founding principles of this country, the Constitutional principles in which our rights are endowed by our Creator, that our “rights” are not granted by government, and that the most important thing about being an American is the sense of freedom that he doesn’t want for himself or his offspring.
    Today’s immigrant brings his “old-world” customs and squabbles here, demanding that native-born Americans kowtow to him and change THEIR ways to accommodate his “old-world” ways. His children are not encouraged to become Americans and fully assimilate, but are required to maintain their “old-world” customs and ways, even if they run counter to American customs and mores. These old-world customs and ways quite often are criminal in nature, and do nothing to endear him to native-born Americans. He just does not want to assimilate.
    Today’s immigrants do not deserve to be here and should go back to where they came from.
    As an aside, blacks have been here for two hundred years and still have never assimilated…

  109. Who knew that AIPAC is really just trying to encourage all Americans to “assimilate” into the “traditional values” that the founding fathers imparted to the citizens of this republic?

    No wonder apologist (paid?) Walter Russell Mead keeps trying to convince his fellow citizens of precisely that.

  110. It seems that California will become a test/case study of how to build a permanent BLUE state impentetrable to GOP/Conservative/alt parties. During the first day of the Trump presidnecy the DEM state establishment announce expressly am agenda of obtruccionism, a long/protracted war to destroy the trump administration. In fact the DEM AG of California declared refused to open the VOTING records for the 2016 and earlier election, plagued by fraud, mismanagemeent, lies and Result manipulations. There is abundant evuidence that there was wide spread FRAUD during the 2016 election in Caliofnia all inetned to make the GOP lost. Dead people voting, illegal mexican voters, border crossers voting in San Diego, tons of VOTING ballots found en empty apartments, back aelleys, trash bins, etc. In California the marching drive to disenfranchised conservative voters has been relentless in so many differnet sahpes and forms. Califonia approve the DMV Motor voting , HSchool graduates MUST regsitered DEM to be able to graduate, obtain a Drivers license. Most people are abel to resgister without proof fo citiznship, residence, etc. I reme,mber taking USA History Class in freshman college days..The professor ask me at what point in History was the USA Civil War (1800s) inevitable I said at the Bleedin kansas massacre…In that point in History the ELECTORAL system was violated massively, ..IT was no longer credible and the only option left was WAR…Lets hope the DEMs learned from History.

  111. MarkinLA says:

    Reagan was just in the right place at he right time. Volcker (Carter’s pick) tamed the inflation that allowed interest rates to go down all during the 80s. That also had the effect of ending the 16 year bear market in stocks with companies selling for half their book value and tax law changes led to the LBO stock boom.

    Of course, Reagan had some effect. He wasted tons of borrowed money on weapons that would never be used and his malfeasance led to a commercial real estate boom and bust that destroyed the Savings and Loan industry that the tax payer paid for (unless you believe that nonsense that the RTC actually made money).

    Reagan was also lucky in that the microelectronics and PC industries matured leading to tens of thousands of job openings for engineers, scientists, and technicians.

  112. MarkinLA says:
    @olde reb

    The problem is a stupid electorate. The House is up for a vote every 2 years and their pay is nothing compared to the private sector.

  113. MarkinLA says:

    Reagan’s amnesty and free trade did more to destroy America than anything Clinton or Obama did.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  114. MarkinLA says:
    @Mark G.

    The deficit disappeared because the stock bubble also resulted in immediately sold stock options that are treated as ordinary income and subject to FICA taxes. The national debt never went down. The government was still raiding the SS fund even with the capital gains the stock bubble generated.

  115. MarkinLA says:

    Bubbles like the 90s are an illusion. The capital gains become capital loses when the bust comes. The tax laws make you pay the tax immediately on the way up but not on the way down. It might take you decades to wipe your losses off and they are losing value to inflation.

  116. Hibernian says:
    @Undocumented Shopper

    Entitlement just means it can’t be cut so deep cuts have to be made to the few things that can be cut.

  117. Terrific comments section.

    I live in a rural area and don’t have to deal with all the egotistical politically correct. It saddens me to see what has gone on. I would bet that 95% of Americans don’t know anything about the real issues. The dopes sit in front of their televisions all day and watch this garbage put out by the media-absolute, mindless, depressing garbage.
    The USA is gone and I am going to stand with those who form separate states. The bulk of the youth in America are spoiled, stupid, self centered babies.

    • Replies: @Harry P. Heller
  118. between says:

    Well, that means that “the bulk of youth in America” – your “spoiled, stupid, self centered babies” – are merely just like the president.

    He’s obviously a poor influence on them.

  119. @john dordan

    Socialism is for freeloaders.

  120. Yes, freeloading billionaires like trump.

  121. @Daniel H

    I hate Diversity, and was awakened to it in grade school in the 70s. So I will cut you a slight pass. You are young, aren’t you? Either that, or a total idiot. Why does everybody under 40 think they are experts, when in fact you are by far the dumbest (and most brainwashed) generation in US history?

    Buchanan was indicting immigration in the 80s. He opposed Reagan’s insane, Jewish-neocon-suckered 1986 Amnesty (total black mark on the Gipper’s otherwise modestly admirable reputation). I was there; I remember. He denounced mass immigration as soon as the Berlin Wall fell (Nov 1989 – I was in an airport when it happened; it was on every TV screen throughout every airport I passed through that day).

    Buchanan was loudly denouncing immigration at every point in the 90s. This includes his Presidential primary campaign in 1996. I know; my firm did work for him, and I personally met him 4-5 times, and aided in a serious fundraiser for him in 1995.

    You don’t know what the hell you’re talking about, which makes me assume you are another ridiculous “Millennial”.

  122. @lost American

    What is needed is a conservative, White separatist racial republic, totally sovereign, carved out of the dying carcass of the USA. What a sad end to a wonderful White country, gone “brown”, like feces.

    That said, I think the emphasis must be on RACE. I would rather live in an all-White social democracy with high marginal tax rates and a generous safety net (for Whites-only, I repeat), than in a more capitalist, but White-minoritarian society.

    I agree the Millennials are the most pathetic, wussy, morally degenerate and brainwashed generation in US history. Bar none the biggest losers ever (and not just because they are the least White; the young Whites are mostly douchebags, too).

    If there is a micron of hope, it is that I have heard that the youngest Whites (under 25 circa 2019) are actually fairly rightist – but especially highly race-conscious (made so no doubt by all the disrespect and persecution they must put up with in their dirty diversified schools). I am impressed with most of the young teens I encounter. Their parents are more offended by my blunt race-realism than they are. They will be the shock troops for the future survival of America (if it survives in a smaller, purer version of its old self).

    Socialism Sucks. Diversity sucks even more. Goodbye USA!

  123. Well, there you have it folks – the U.S. is doomed unless it adopts the Israel model (wholesale).

    Hmmm, I knew this attack on “millenials” and “snowflakes” had to come from history’s biggest bunch of whingers.

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