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Here we are on the eve of Christmas, that day of joy set aside for celebrating the birth of Christ who came down to earth 2,000 years ago to show mankind the way to eternal salvation.

Yet, the present mood of America at Christmas 2021 seems better captured by Jimmy Carter in his “malaise speech” in July of 1979, several days before he cashiered half of his Cabinet.

“The threat” to America, said Carter, “is a crisis of confidence. It is a crisis that strikes at the very heart and soul and spirit of our national will. We can see this crisis in the growing doubt about the meaning of our own lives and in the loss of a unity of purpose for our nation.”

Carter’s speech, reflecting the mood of the nation, was initially well received. But when his dirge became contrasted with the optimism about America of Ronald Reagan, Carter was sent packing. He lost 44 states.

The malaise speech came to mind while perusing the latest polls about how Americans feel about the institutions and the individuals who are directing the course of the world’s greatest democratic republic.

Of President Joe Biden’s performance, the Economist, Politico and Rasmussen are all posting approval ratings, not yet a year into Biden’s term, that have sunk to 43 and 42%.

While nearly half of Americans approved of the job the Supreme Court was doing last July, Gallup finds that that figure has now plunged to an all-time low for the high court of 40%.

How many Americans approve of the job Congress is doing?

One in seven Americans, 14%. Two out of every three Americans, 63%, disapprove of Congress’s performance, a 49-point gap.

Is America on the “right track” under the new administration?

According to the Economist and Politico polls, 63% of the nation answers, “No.” In the Economist poll, only one in four Americans, 26%, said their country was on the right track.

These polls raise some fundamental follow-on questions:

How long can a democracy endure if it continues to generate such sweeping rejection from the people in whose name it purports to act?

How long before the American people, who consistently show a lack of confidence in the popular branch of government and in the course in which it is steering the nation, begin to lose confidence in the democratic system itself?

If democracy is continuously perceived as failing, can it survive?

Clearly, among the reasons for our present division and national malaise is that we have lost the great animating cause earlier generations had: the Cold War.

Americans have found no substitute cause to replace the Cold War and no substitute adversary like the late Soviet Empire.

George H.W. Bush’s “New World Order” excited only the elites. George W. Bush’s crusade for democracy did not survive the Afghan and Iraq forever wars he launched in its name.

Secretary of State Antony Blinken’s “rules-based order” will suffer the same fate.

And even as we are losing faith in the democratic institutions and individuals who run them, Americans seem, too, to be losing faith in the faith of their fathers as well.

Woodrow Wilson, in his campaign for president, declared:

“America was born a Christian nation. America was born to exemplify that devotion to the tenets of righteousness which are derived from the revelations of Holy Scripture.”

Harry Truman wrote to Pope Pius XII in 1947, “This is a Christian nation.” He did not mean we had an official religion or established church. He meant what he said to a conference of attorneys general in 1950:

ORDER IT NOW

“The fundamental basis of this nation’s law was given to Moses on the Mount. The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings which we get from Exodus and St. Matthew, from Isaiah and St. Paul. … If we don’t have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the State.”

What Truman was saying was consistent with what Thomas Jefferson was saying when he wrote:

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men.”

On April 6, 2009, Barack Obama, speaking in Turkey, declared that the United States no longer regarded itself as a Christian nation: “Although we have a very large Christian population, we do not consider ourselves a Christian nation.”

But Obama’s assertion also raises a follow-up question:

If we were a Christian nation under Wilson and Truman, when exactly did America cease to be a Christian nation?

And is there a causal connection, a correlation between the loss of faith in Christianity among our people and the loss of faith in democracy?

And is the loss of faith in both reversible — or inexorable?

Merry Christmas!

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

 
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  1. MEexpert says:

    world’s greatest democratic republic

    America is neither a democracy nor a republic. When you have unfair elections, stolen elections and then you can’t even talk about it, it is not a democracy. Party nominations are rigged. Social media controls the narrative. If you veer from it, you are censored or blocked. The media is an arm of a political party. The country as whole is controlled by an authoritarian little country and its agents.

    Harry Truman captured the essence of present state of affairs as such,

    If we don’t have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the State.”

    The debacle in 2020, known as the impeachment of President Trump was hardly an example of democracy in action. The House of representatives accused him of “abuse of power”,” while demonstrating “absolute abuse of power,” by rushing through several articles of impeachment not once but twice.

    In a democracy everybody is equal under the law. Yet, Hillary Clinton, Obama, Clepper, and Comey remain untouched. BLM and Antifa burn businesses and federal buildings and attack the police remain free, while a peaceful demonstration on January 6 is labeled insurrection and people are called terrorists and prosecuted. Parents objecting to what is being taught in schools are called terrorists and full weight of the federal government is thrown at them for what is a local matter.

    Some members of the press whose job it is to expose corruption in the government are prosecuted for doing their job.

    I can go on, but there is not enough space to list every criminal act by the federal government and the congress.

    America a democratic republic? Hardly!

    Merry Christmas, indeed.

  2. sir,

    liberty and freedom, like life itself, are gifts from Our Lord. “I have come that they may have life and have it more abundantly.” “You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.” John 10 & 8.

    one needs to have faith in order to come to the truth. he needs courage to grasp and hold on to the truth. he has to follow the truth to persevere in faith. he must have faith to maintain his courage. all of these are inter-related and feed upon one another.

    when the pursuit of happiness takes a carnal, hedonistic turn, then self-centeredness, selfishness, and greed take hold, and discernment and wisdom are lost. Then courage disappears, life becomes boring, meaningless, even intolerable.

    the Foundation is Faith; may Our Lord, God and Savior Jesus Christ help us keep it, for the sake of Our Lady the Holy Virgin Mariam, Mother of God, amen. Merry Christmas!!!

    • Replies: @Back_tothe_land
    , @SBaker
  3. JimDandy says:

    Imperfect as he was, the only legitimate reason to feel very uneasy about the Trump administration was the violent, unhinged tantrum the left was throwing.

    • Agree: Decoy, SBaker
  4. Both parties and their constituents still have total faith in Jews and Israel, so don’t you worry, Patkins.

  5. Darkwing says:

    If there was a god, all of this would not be happening.

  6. Renoman says:

    America might be able to avoid Civil war if it did the following:
    Make doing business with offshore banks a high crime. If caught, no more citizenship and deny the right to do business in America ever again.
    Install a death tax that sends all a person’s assets back to the government except for Ten Million.
    Socialize Medicare.
    Make federal hiring a merit job, no one should be given a job because of skin color or sexuality.
    Quit the ridiculous tag on bills in Government, end the lobby system.
    Get out of the weapons business and no more foreign wars, mind your own business.
    Close your immigration, take only the best and brightest.

    Well it’s been nice knowing you, won’t be long now.

    • Agree: Max Maxwell
    • LOL: RoatanBill
  7. Franz says:

    The USA isn’t a democracy and it isn’t Christian.

    The Founders wanted a Republic (which maybe worked for awhile or maybe not) and they wanted no national religion, seeing how divisive religion was in Europe. They probably assumed American citizens would always be some variety of Christian but they made no binding contract to that effect.

    The real question NOW is: With the Founders being cancelled, did anything they said about Republican virtues, Christian or otherwise, matter? The Founder’s stock is an absolute minority, and a hated one at that. Talking politics or religion is a leisure time activity for a strong and confident nation. The USA is neither.

    • Agree: Max Maxwell
  8. – Jefferson´s god was the masonic Grand Arqitecte de l´Univers, while
    H. Salomon Truman´s was the blood- and smoke-craving Yahu
    (putdowns of Wilson are like the sand by the sea).

    – Insofar as there is an American Faith it is Manifest Destiny.
    (when Germany displayed not a tenth of this faith everybody and his mama agreed
    their men must be killed and/or castrated, their women and children burned alive
    and the ground salted – but I digress)
    The ill mating of Puritanism and capitalism has proven unbeatable at (malignant) growth
    and conquest but precious little else; with no outgroup left to sodomize this side
    of Uranus (= reach of the Monroe Doctrine), the system enters into crisis.
    For better or worse, the Puritan must sodomize someone.
    (H.L.Mencken defined Puritanism as “the nagging thought that someone,
    somewhere might be happy”)

    Therefore:
    – The sooner America loses Faith, the better for all concerned (though a reasonable time frame for introspection, 50 Years since Vietnam or almost three generations, has passed without a ray of hope).
    – Civil War is inevitable anyway so stop bitching (I repeat that the system could have run forever as long as there is something to expand to, but there isn´t).

    Merry Christmas 😀

    • Replies: @JimDandy
  9. Lurch likes this idea “God..zilla”.

  10. Recall that a little-scrutinized immigration law was passed in 1965 by a trio we’ll call The Jew, The Cuck and The Drunk. The Jew knew the effect it would have since he and The Cuck used The Drunk as the “face” of the new law to assure the masses there would be no radical change in who was permitted to immigrate.

    Seventy years later we are well on our way to becoming a Third World country. A few years before being installed by the Deep Shit, the disgusting Fraudsident Earpiece said replacing Whites was a good thing.



    Video Link

    With the exception of Dr. David Duke, not a single uniparty turd has expressed the idea that Whites have their own racial self-interests, especially as “diverse” aliens replace the native Euro-White population.
    Soon not even a simp like Carter will escape cancellation.

    Non-whites are incapable of preserving America’s Founding Principles; what is worth saving shrinks every year.

    It will be no small feat if 100 years hence the global population of Whites is a third of its current numbers. Hope springs eternal.

  11. Exile says:

    Democracy in its modern form has always been a false god.

    One man, one vote – but only donors get the policies they want

    Two parties – funded by the same donors. Does the Sheldon Adelson donor wing disagree with the Haim Saban wing on anything of importance?

    A half-dozenish Jewish corporations control the media. Thousands of Jewish advocacy groups, groups for Blacks, Browns – nothing for Whites who are still a majority of the population.

    “Colorblind” civil rights laws that Whites are effectively barred from using in 99.9% of cases despite 24/7 open, unashamed expression of anti-White hatred so toxic it would be unimaginable if directed against another race.

    That’s democracy.

    Inevitably someone is going to say “not true democracy.” But everyone today from Pat Buchanan to Rachel Maddow is talking about the democracy we have now, not someone’s theoretical, historic or ideal form of democracy.

  12. @MEexpert

    Thanks. Very accurately summed up.

  13. @Darkwing

    Since when is it God’s place to rule America? In the Beatitudes Jesus told what it took for Jesus to be with his people. Early on the people opened their doors for Christ to enter. As a Christian nation God would be evident here, but we’re no longer a Christian nation.

  14. Whoremerica is a fake country and it cannot die soon enough.

    • Replies: @rgl
  15. Dumbo says:

    Merry Christmas, Pat!

    As for democracy, it’s game over.

    We won’t see it for a while now.

    But then again, was it ever little more than a sham?

    The powerful are always powerful, democracy just allows them to hide better.

  16. @MEexpert

    America is run by a secret society and is malevolent is all that can be concluded especially from recent events. The founding myth of the American Empire centers around the Holocaust which was a cover up of mostly American war crimes against Germany by the iconic General Eisenhower. So most Americans, especially religious, believe that Americans are good people and that its government is good (by handing out chewing gum to children in World War II). But that myth is slowly being exposed for what it is thanks mostly to the Covid hoax indicating that nothing is what we think it is.

  17. Christ who came down to earth 2,000 years ago to show mankind evil Jews the way to eternal salvation.

    FIFY, Pat.

  18. Mr. Ed says:

    Pat surely has fallen; I used to always read him, and even voted for him for POTUS back in the day. Now I skip his writing and simply read the comments. They’re more interesting.

  19. SafeNow says:

    Several years ago a China-born woman I knew had just naturalized – – learned the language, studied civics, assimilated, liked Yeats. The big thing that brought tears to her eyes was that now she was where rights come from God, not the government; because governments don’t give you unalienable rights, governments cannot take away those rights. That was the main thing.

  20. JimDandy says:
    @nokangaroos

    Since you seem to know every goddamn thing, what will the Civil War look like? Don’t leave me hangin’, dawg.

    • Replies: @SafeNow
    , @nokangaroos
  21. SafeNow says:
    @JimDandy

    what will the Civil War look like? Don’t leave me hangin’, dawg.

    A fair question, but things have reached the point where if you lay-out a plan of procedure, you might face consequences. Conservative columnists and pundits always say things like “get involved!” and then stop there, never saying what that would look like.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
  22. JimDandy says:
    @SafeNow

    I see the biggest potential for actual civil war being conflicts between Blue Feds and Red States. Washington sends troops/agents into a state to enforce its will, a GOP governor is defiant, etc. But perhaps in 2044, President Rittenhouse will be heralded as the man who fired the first shots of The Second American Civil War.

  23. @Darkwing

    I’m away on holiday, Darkwing, and don’t have the book with me, but at approx. Chap 34 of Exodus for the 2nd time God is said to be jealous, but there it’s written that his actual name is Jealous. If there was a god, if Mister Jealous was/is real, all of this would definitely be happening.

    But … just read the Sermon on the Mount. Most important writing of all time. Short, read it, and decide then if Buchanan is worth more than a laugh.

    Looks to me like the CR Church, the Counter-Reformation Church, some call it the RC Church, which has been waging its Thirty Years War for its hegemony for well over 10 times 30 years, non-stop.

    Then look at that other fading hegemon and notice that our only hope is for Russia to plant ballistic missiles in Venezuela and Cuba and absolutely wipe out the hegemon.

  24. Dutch Boy says:

    The secular republic begun by our Deist founding fathers is just continuing its march to its inevitable end: an anti-Christian tyranny.

  25. @Darkwing

    Isn’t your premise based on you knowing the mind of God and what Gods plans are? St. Paul wrote, ” now the Holy Spirit, even examines the depths of God. St Augustine wrote, “Is God bounded by the world or is he outside of it?

  26. Anon[159] • Disclaimer says:

    Faith in Christianity is not necessary for democracy. Greek and Roman traditions are more important for west’s democratic tradition. But some aspects of Christianity may be conducive for democracy. Also in Christian majority countries laws that emanate from the legislatures will be influenced by Christian faith. In the west Christianity complements democracy to a degree.

    Both the Greek and Christian traditions can be described as west. But the Greek tradition more so than Christian tradition. Russia, Eastern Europe and much of Africa and Latin America are Christian too, but no deep tradition of modern democracy.

  27. anon[379] • Disclaimer says:

    Pat. This is the stupidest fucking piece ever written in any Indo-European language, in cuneiform, in hieroglyphics, in kanji, or in runes.

    How do you spell the cooking implement in “potato”?

    Right! P-O-T. Easy, right?

    Now here’s a hard one! How do you spell the man’s name in “tomato”?

    Right, Yay!! T-O-M!

    Ok, How do you spell the fuck in “democracy in American”?

    There is no fuck in democracy in American?

    THAT’S RIGHT, YOU FUCKING DOTARD, GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL
    THERE IS NO FUCKIN DEMOCRACY IN AMERICA
    IT’S A KLEPTOCRACY PROPPED UP BY A POLICE STATE

    • Replies: @GomezAdddams
  28. @Darkwing

    God hasn’t turned his back on America. Just the opposite: America has turned its back on God. Solzhenitsyn’s “old ones” in the Gulag explained a nearly identical state of affairs very eloquently as recounted in The Gulag Archipelago

    “Over a half century ago, while I was still a child, I recall hearing a number of old people offer the following explanation for the great disasters that had befallen Russia:

    ‘Men have forgotten God; that’s why all this has happened.’

    Since then I have spent well-nigh 50 years working on the history of our (Communist) revolution; in the process I have read hundreds of books, collected hundreds of personal testimonies, and have already contributed eight volumes of my own toward the effort of clearing away the rubble left by that upheaval. But if I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible the main cause of the ruinous revolution that swallowed up some 60 million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than to repeat:

    ‘Men have forgotten God; that’s why all this has happened’.”

    In light of the above, also take note of this: In America and elsewhere in the Post-Christian West, churches, and cathedrals are being burned down, converted to mosques, etc. In Russia, the very place where a similar disaster took place starting in 1918, they are now building an average of one new church a day, and even recently built a huge cathedral outside Moscow. Notice the rabid, insane push by our overlords to go to war with Russia? So, to answer Buchanan’s question:

    Yes, America certainly has lost its faith, or as the old ones noted: “Men have forgotten God”. This does not have to be a permanent state of affairs, but remembrance of God happens mainly on the individual level – one by one.

    • Thanks: SeekerofthePresence
  29. It would seem the two party system has outlived its usefulness; the two major parties are increasingly dysfunctional and produce bad candidates; case in point our current senile incompetent 79 year old president and his dangerously unqualified VP; if she were to become president the Republic would be in grave danger; the two parties are ”’two wings on the same bird of prey;” as Pat once said; alternative parties are the answer not just one but multiple ones; America both is and is not a Christian nation; in the sense that a majority of Americans are Christian yes America is a Christian nation but America technically has no official religion. Congress also needs term limits but they will have to be imposed from outside as that body will never vote for term limits for itself; Islamic extremists Russia China Iran and North Korea are poor substitutes for the menacing Soviet Union; as for Americans losing faith in Democracy there are no alternatives; as Winston Churchill said Democracy is the worst form of government except the other ones that have been tried from time to time. The US is not a Democracy it is a Republic; one that is lurching toward totalitarianism.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  30. Some good news abt crime in USA, anyway —

  31. @JimDandy

    My money is on a dollar collapse followed by the joggers running wild;
    your duty is to survive the purges before.

    Not that it matters 😀

  32. reading says:

    All the classic laws of pagan Buddhism perish The prophet said to his disciples

    A few years after my death There will be demons wearing our sacrificial clothes He was full of our teachings In fact, he is addicted to greed, gluttony and lust Jealousy and other evils, they climbed to the high level of sacrifice drive away. Exclude true believers Such a world is the end Only true believers insist more in this case To go to heaven

    So many civilizations have doomsday predictions

    Christianity has been usurped by democratic theology The United States Congress is the Holy See Senators are bishops The congressman is the chaplain

    The news media is a choir The CIA and FBI are the courts XXX is a crusader

    The wise men and prophets thousands of years ago saw this situation

  33. Incitatus says:

    “Has America Lost Its Faith?”

    Pat pans Jimmy Carter without mentioning the illegal ‘October Surprise’ staged by the dirty-tricks branch of the out-of-power GOP to release Iran hostages only after the election. Also unmentioned is GOP hard line gospel ‘never negotiate with terrorists’. But, of course they did then, latter in Iran Contra, and still latter when Trump surrendered Afghanistan in talks with the Taliban that excluded the US-supported native government. Diplomacy ala 1938 Munich, eh Pat?

    Pat then casts his net on obscure polls and equally worthless answers:
    • “How many Americans approve of the job Congress is doing?”
    • “Is America on the “right track” under the new administration?”

    Building on that, true student of Clubfoot Joe Göbbels, Pat weighs in with self-serving conclusions (it’s whatever he decides to write every week). That’s his livelihood/hobby.

    Dividing America with crap polls and partisan rhetoric, leveraging a minority to power for personal (900 words per week) gain. That’s Pat.

  34. nsa says:

    Ezra Pound nailed it when he defined democracy as “a country run by jews”. He was incarcerated for 13 years in a jail for the criminally insane following WWII.

    • LOL: JimDandy
  35. Escher says:

    Happy Holidays, indeed.
    America is a giant and violent mall now. That’s it.

  36. @anon

    245 years of existence and yet a remarkable 22 when USA has not had war—now this is peace and goodwill indeed–a complete Lie. In god we trust is Satan–not Santa.

  37. @anno nimus

    This is the Truth that they try to keep hidden, but more are finding it every day. Amen.

    Merry Christmas!

    And if you have the ear: Listen to what the Angels of the churches are saying.

  38. Has America Lost Its Faith?

    Pat isn’t writing the headlines. That should be “her faith”.

    Woodrow Wilson, in his campaign for president, declared:

    “America was born a Christian nation…”

    Coming from the ass who got us involved in parochial European conflicts for the first time, after promising peace, this is quite rich.

    Harry Truman wrote to Pope Pius XII in 1947, “This is a Christian nation.”

    I hope His Holiness directed the President to the nearest confessional booth. A Christian nation wouldn’t have elected his ticket in 1944.

    At least Harry S isn’t on a coin, like his terrorist predecessor.

    If we were a Christian nation under Wilson and Truman, when exactly did America cease to be a Christian nation?

    When we elected them.

    • Replies: @Bing Bong Trump
  39. @Max Maxwell

    America both is and is not a Christian nation; in the sense that a majority of Americans are Christian yes America is a Christian nation but America technically has no official religion.

    America is– or was– a Christian nation. But “America” has no official anything. The United States of America have an official seal and official flag, but no official religion, nor official language.

    Don’t confuse a nation with a state.

  40. How did we come to this?

  41. Anonymous[130] • Disclaimer says:

    “Americans have found no substitute cause to replace the Cold War and no substitute adversary like the late Soviet Empire.”

    In a word, CHINA.

    • Replies: @Max Maxwell
  42. Anonymous[101] • Disclaimer says:

    Notice that neither Wilson nor Truman said “Judeo-Christian” as Mr. Buchanan so often does. That “Judeo-Christian” stuff needs to stop.

    As for Obama, “If I had a son, he would get his sorry ass shot while committing the crime of assault like Trayvon Martin.”

    WWRJD? What would Rachel Jeantel do?

  43. @Anonymous

    China is not a good substitute for the Soviet Union; it does not want to oppose communism on anyone; it is not as powerful militarily while it has a larger economy than the US; it is poised to surpass USA because they are smarter and investing in STEM rather than wasting funds on its military and trying to control the planet; but Americans do not feat China like they feared the USSR.

  44. @Reg Cæsar

    Good point. Any ‘new world order’ is inherently anti-Christian, as it is substituting one set of fundamental, undergirding principles to another.

    Those presidents in particular attempted to make themselves into something approximating God by contriving to shoulder the impossible burden of saving the world. They had this strange emotional mix of “if I must” combined with “you’re welcome” that aims to make us feel guilty and grateful for a job no one asked them to do, and that they were destined to fail at, while allowing them to escape accountability for their actions in persuit of what they claim is the greater good.

    We are fallen, and the only way of setting that right is through Jesus, and it doesn’t happen in this world. However we can fall further by rejecting Christ, and by embracing Him and attempting to follow His example we can make things better, for ourselves and others in everyday life.

  45. Truth says:

    Ladies and Gentlemen; Merry Christmas…

    • Replies: @IreneAthena
  46. IreneAthena says: • Website
    @Truth

    Merry Christmas, Truth. Who is the guy in the Santy-Claus hat? Famous Black person from December 1963…. trying to guess. I give up. Who?

    • Replies: @Truth
  47. IreneAthena says: • Website

    Merry Christmas Pat Buchanan!!!
    (Is someone famous gonna say Merry Christmas back to me? Screen capture, at the ready!)

    And is there a causal connection, a correlation between the loss of faith in Christianity among our people and the loss of faith in democracy?

    And is the loss of faith in both reversible — or inexorable?

    Jesus had questions along the same lines, maybe? “When the Son of Man comes, will He find faith on the earth?”

  48. Cogitosus says:

    The basic cultural ethos of the non-christian world is, “kill your neighbor and take his stuff.” The basic ethos of Christian culture is, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” This is why Jesus responded with the parable of the Good Samaritan when the Jews asked, “Who is my neighbor?” The Jews hated the Samaritans. They also hated Jesus for emphasizing this fact.

    All governments, everywhere, all the time, kill their enemies. This is how governments maintain their power. There is no exception to this rule. The Jews saw Jesus as their enemy, so they killed him.

    Even though America has a Christian culture, it has never had a Christian government. In fact, the American government was founded upon the moral right to kill its enemy, the British army. This “right” was used to justify the Declaration of Independence and the American Revolution.

    Jesus refused to kill his enemies. He refused to form a government. He told Pilate, “My kingdom is not of this world.” He was not a good Jew. He did not support or defend the Jewish state. Despite what many people believe, Jesus did not base his teaching upon law, or obedience to a law. He declared that the Law of Moses was obsolete and irrelevant. And without law no government can function.

    Therefore, it is impossible to establish a Christian, or Christ-like, government. A “Christian government” is an oxymoron, a self-contradiction. Cultures can be Christ-like, but governments cannot. This failure to distinguish between culture and government has been the source of endless confusion, suffering, hypocrisy, persecution, torment, and death. Christians cannot become Jews. They cannot establish a “Christian State.”

    If you doubt this, please read the Apostle Paul’s Letter to the Galatians. The Jews hated Paul even more than they hated Jesus, and Paul, just like Jesus, was executed by the Romans to placate the Jews.

    • Replies: @Anon
  49. Faith is a feeling. In the real world feelings are not facts. Humanity is well along now in its journey from intellectual childhood to responsible adulthood. We are collectively experiencing the growing pains of our species’ teenage years, with all the anxieties and rages and dreams and hopes of that turbulent time, no longer infantile but not yet entirely rational. Whether we will survive or succumb to the ultimate teen angst, suicide, is an open question. Falling back on ancient ways that have lost all credibility is a sure way to end the future we might otherwise achieve. Christianity’s traditional role as the compliance assurance arm of state power, of enabling imperialism, genocide, misogyny and homophobia disqualify it from ever returning to its former position of preeminence. Our own so-called Christian United States struck the first blow long ago when it refused to establish that faith as its official state religion, the first nation to do so in some fourteen centuries of western history.It’s been quite the American cottage industry since the “second great awakening” of the 1820s to revise that embarrassing heritage.

    In Jesus’ culture, men were superstitious primitives who, lacking science, imagined observable natural phenomena were the work of all-powerful invisible entities, which could be influenced, like benevolent but unstable parents, to produce favorable outcomes, through magical thoughts and rituals. Jesus said you must be as children to enter the kingdom of heaven because children believe everything authority figures tell them. But now we recognize we are not sheep: the services of a good shepherd are no longer required. And may we recall that the shepherd’s job description was never to ensure that his flock live long happy lives of self-actualization, but rather to lull his charges into a false sense of security so they could be more easily fleeced, and ultimately butchered.

    • Replies: @Thomasina
  50. Anon[332] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cogitosus

    Despite what many people believe, Jesus did not base his teaching upon law, or obedience to a law.

    He left us a law, and told us that only by obedience to that we would reach true life.
    Obviously, the law was neither the Old Testament’s, nor the hybrid taught by the Church for the best part of 20 centuries.
    I don’t know if you are, or view yourself as, a Christian, but you are about the unique commenter here who can see what Christianity, and who Christ, are.

  51. Thomasina says:
    @Observator

    Nice spin. You must be a politician.

    Facts and science do not provide values. As someone said above, “America is a giant and violent mall now.” When you don’t have values, you end up with a nation of hustlers, grifters, Shylocks, crime and corruption.

    That’s when the real fleecing occurs. You get the sheep to join in the hustle in order to survive. Low-level hustlers being led by the high-level hustlers. Everybody is in on the fleecing game.

    This isn’t a “teenage” nation struggling to find its way. This is a nation on its back, stripped of all hope. They will have to find the “child” again – the goodness, kindness, innocence, love, truth.

    I detect a sea change, though. America IS beginning to look itself in the mirror, and they don’t like what they see.

  52. SBaker says:
    @anno nimus

    And a late Merry Christmas to you.

  53. Cut the BS, Pat. America is filled with foreigners who could never become Americans, even if they wanted to, and an elite that despises Americans and their culture and past, and has every desire to see Americans destroyed and our nation taken from us and transformed into something that we wouldn’t want or recognize. The ballot box has been tried for decades and it doesn’t work, because the wonderful Republican party that was repeatedly voted into power to save the nation proved to despise its base as much as the Democrats ever did. We have a fight much bigger than the Cold War ever was, and there is no political way out of it. So, yes, there is no reason for actual Americans (not immigrants, the descendants of immigrants, migrants, or whatever else we call those who have swamped the nation post 1965.) to have any faith in America, its future, and certainly not the traitors running the nation. The present and future are a foreign country.

    • Agree: The Anti-Gnostic
    • Disagree: Corvinus
    • Replies: @MEexpert
  54. “Has America lost its faith?”

    No. America has lost America.

    A while back, a bunch of Chinese students from Beijing won some sort of academic contest, and the prize was a trip to New York City.

    The group was touring around downtown Manhattan when a reporter walked up to them and asked, “So how do you like America?”

    One of the students rather hesitantly replied, “It’s wonderful, except… where are all the Americans?”

    The liberal reporter put his foot down: “These are all Americans.”

    The Chinese kids burst out laughing: “No they aren’t.”

    • LOL: anaccount
  55. MEexpert says:
    @OilcanFloyd

    America is filled with foreigners who could never become Americans, even if they wanted to, and an elite that despises Americans and their culture and past, and has every desire to see Americans destroyed and our nation taken from us and transformed into something that we wouldn’t want or recognize.

    America is not going to be destroyed by foreigners. That honor is reserved for the Natives. Foreigners are more patriotic than the native Americans. We sit on our computers and talk about how bad our elected officials are and yet year-after-year we send them back to plunder the citizenry.

    Jews are only about 2% of the population.

    We hate every foreigner (legal included) while the Jews consolidate their power. They control the government, the Media, Businesses, academia, Hollywood, Industries, and every profession leaving peanuts for the rest of the fools. They have destroyed the constitution, first amendment, second amendment, fourth amendment, and who knows what else. The protector of first amendment, the ACLU is controlled by the Jews so there is no challenge to BDS destruction, but what happened to non-Jewish lawyers.

    You could deny God but can’t deny Holocaust, You can call the President of the United States every name in the book but can’t say anything bad about the Prime Minister of Israel or Israel itself.

    We need to flood our elected officials with letters, not emails. Stand in front of their local offices and demonstrate but please no insurrection. Maybe in front of the local newspapers and TV stations until we are heard.

  56. rgl says:
    @No Worries

    Whoremerica is a fake country and it cannot die soon enough.

    Too soon is not soon enough. Yankistan has spilled more than it’s share of blood.

  57. GeneralRipper [AKA "Nemo me impune lacessit"] says:
    @Truth

    Happy Kwanza to you, Troof.

    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
  58. GeneralRipper [AKA "Nemo me impune lacessit"] says:
    @GeneralRipper

    Oh hold on! Forgot this one.

    • Replies: @Truth
  59. Truth says:
    @GeneralRipper

    A 25 year-old beats a 40 year-old
    A clip from 1956
    …And a 270 lb. guy beats a 220 lb. guy.

    Merry Christmas.

  60. GeneralRipper [AKA "Nemo me impune lacessit"] says:

    Excuses, excuses.

    How very “negro like” of you, Troof.

    Happy Kwanza!

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