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Last Monday, in a single six-hour period, NATO launched 10 air intercepts to shadow six separate groups of Russian bombers and fighters over the Arctic, North Atlantic, North Sea, Black Sea and Baltic Sea.

Last week also brought reports that Moscow is increasing its troop presence in Crimea and along its borders with Ukraine.

Joe Biden responded. In his first conversation with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, Biden assured him of our “unwavering support for Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity in the face of Russia’s ongoing aggression in the Donbass and Crimea.”

Though Ukraine is not a member of NATO, and we have no treaty obligation to fight in its defense, this comes close to a war guarantee. Biden seems to be saying that if it comes to a shooting war between Moscow and Kiev, we will be there on the side of Kiev.

Last week, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov answered that if the U.S. sends troops to Ukraine, Russia will respond.

Again, is Biden saying that in the event of a military clash between Ukrainians and Russians in Crimea, Donetsk or Luhansk, the U.S. will intervene militarily on the side of Ukraine?

Such a pledge could put us at war with a nuclear-armed Russia in a region where we have never had vital interests, and without the approval of the only institution authorized to declare war — Congress.

Meanwhile, off Whitsun Reef in the South China Sea, which Beijing occupies but Manila claims, China has amassed 220 maritime militia ships.

This huge Chinese flotilla arrived after Secretary of State Anthony Blinken put Beijing on notice that any attack on Philippine planes or ships challenging Beijing’s claim to rocks and reefs of the South China Sea that are in Manila’s exclusive economic zone will be backed by the U.S.

Our 70-year-old mutual security treaty with Manila covers these islets and reefs, said Blinken, though some are already occupied and fortified by China.

Apparently, if Manila uses force to assert its claims and expel the Chinese, then we will fight beside our Philippine allies. This amounts to a war guarantee of the kind that forced the British to declare war on Germany in 1939 over the invasion of Poland.

Two weeks ago, 20 Chinese military aircraft entered Taiwan’s air defense identification zone in the largest incursion yet by Beijing over the waters between Taiwan and Taiwan-controlled Pratas Islands. As national security correspondent Bill Gertz writes in today’s Washington Times:

“China is stepping up provocative activities targeting regional American allies in Asia … with an escalating number of military flights around Taiwan and the massing of more than 200 fishing ships near a disputed Philippines reef.

“China also raised tensions with Japan, announcing last week that Tokyo must drop all claims to the disputed Senkaku Islands, an uninhabited island chain that Japan has administered for decades but that Beijing recently claimed as its territory.

ORDER IT NOW

“The most serious provocation took place March 29. An exercise by the People’s Liberation Army air force that included 10 warplanes flew into Taiwan’s air defense zone is what analysts say appeared to be a simulated attack on the island. It came just three days after an earlier mass warplane incursion.”

While China appears clear about its aims and claims to virtually all of the islands in the South China Sea and East China Sea as well as Taiwan — it is less clear about its intentions as to when to validate those claims.

As for the U.S., does the present foggy ambiguity as to what we may or may not do as China goes about asserting its claims serve our vital interests in avoiding war with the greatest power on the largest continent on earth?

If red lines are to be laid down, they ought to be laid down by the one constitutional body with the authority to authorize or declare war — Congress. And questions need to be answered to avoid the kinds of miscalculations that led to horrific world wars in the 20th century.

Are the reefs and rocks the Philippines claim in the South China Sea, claims contradicted by China, covered by the U.S. mutual security treaty of 1951? Are we honor-bound to fight China on behalf of the Philippines, if Manila attempts to reclaim islets China occupies?

What is our obligation if China moves to take the Senkakus? Would the United States join Japan in military action to hold or retrieve them?

What, exactly, is our commitment to Taiwan if China attempts to blockade, invade or seize Taiwan’s offshore islands?

John F. Kennedy in the second debate with Richard Nixon in 1960 wrote off Quemoy and Matsu in the Taiwan Strait as indefensible and not worth war with Mao’s China.

With its warnings and threats, China is forcing America to address questions we have been avoiding for about as long as we can.

China is saying that it is not bluffing: These islands are ours!

Time to show our cards.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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  1. meamjojo says:

    For What Should We Fight Russia or China?

    We spend at least $700 billion on our military-industrial complex annually (and probably a lot more). Don’t we need to get some use out of the monies we spend?

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Joe Levantine
  2. Anon[615] • Disclaimer says:

    America would be well advised to “stick to its own knitting”, a country where every major city has streets full of homeless living in tents, where manufacturing, mainly of electronic equipment, has been outsourced, where the army has been hollowed out by the woke, should really seek to cure its own ills first. An attack on the Chinese would very quickly go nuclear. A nuclear war is unwinnable for anyone involved. Thank God that I live in the Southern hemisphere.

    • Replies: @mike99588
  3. Can we send pat, his interns and their children to war? To the front lines?

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
  4. USA1943 says:

    I for one hope we go to war with both China and Russia, Biden has really strengthened our Military by letting Trans into the Military and adding a Diversity and Inclusion official for our Special Forces, Our Special Forces were facing shortages in Special Forces so Biden’s allowing Trans back in expands the talent pool, How would Russia’s SPETSNAZ do against Young, Strong, Powerful, Patriotic, Very Smart and Mentally Stable Trans Green, Berets, Trans Navy Seals etc. many of whom Just got their degrees in Critical Race Theory and or Gender Studies, Just tell them Russia and China refuse to call them by their preferred Gender Pronouns and that will have them ready to fight and if necessary die For Country and Preferred pronouns.

  5. GeeBee says:

    China is saying that it is not bluffing: These islands are ours!

    Time to show our cards.

    I am not a poker player, so the cards analogy might be slightly lost on me. As I understand it, the showing of cards comes at the end of the game, if not all of the other players have ‘folded’, and the showing decides the winner.

    If my very vague knowledge of the game of poker is correct, then using them as a military analogy, I can imagine that while China’s hand will be revealed as a Royal Flush, the USA will sheepishly lay down its two pair of transgendered knaves and outrageous queens, together with an Ace (spades, of course).

    • Agree: Realist, GomezAdddams
    • LOL: Marshal Marlow
    • Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy
  6. Dumbo says:

    Fight with China and Russia? What a joke.

    The U.S. government seems completely uninterested in defending the U.S. borders… In fact they support the demographic dissolution of the country.

    But for some reason which I cannot fathom they are very worried about the borders of China / Taiwan and Russia / Ukraine…?

    Biden apparently even wants to force Crimea back to the Ukraine, against the desires of its population… And neocons seem to want to go to war for that… But then again, was there any war that the neocons didn’t like? These people are vultures.

  7. El Dato says:

    Do the Europeans actually know what’s going on in their neighborhood

    Moscow holds emergency talks with US over fighting in Donbass as Ukraine says NATO exercises will train troops for war with Russia

    Over the weekend, Ukraine’s representative in talks over the future of Donbass said that the US-led military bloc was preparing itself for a potential conflict with Russia. “A large-scale NATO exercise has begun, called DefenderEurope 2021,” Aleksey Arestovich said, adding that “this basically translates to Defend Europe.” The envoy said that the drills will focus on areas “from the waters of the Baltic to the Black Sea, to put it bluntly, armed confrontation with Russia.”

    As part of the wargames, Europe is expected to see the largest deployment of US forces since the start of the 21st century. Around 20,000 American troops will participate, along with a 17,000-strong contingent from NATO member states and non-members like Ukraine.

    Prepare body bags.

    • Replies: @GeeBee
    , @Mulga Mumblebrain
  8. Dumbo says: • Website

    The EU slaves (they are nothing but slaves, their countries U.S. colonies or at best puppet regimes) would do well to break free of U.S. oppression and request the removal of all U.S. military bases from their territory, dissolve NATO and stop playing that stupid game. But nothing of the sort will come from slaves. They’d rather be fed by their master than being free.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  9. mijj says:

    USA wars with Russia – China wins, Russia survives, USA implodes.

    USA wars with China – Russia wins, China survives, USA implodes.

    USA wars with Russia/China – Russia/China wins, USA implodes

    The American mind exists in the imagineered USA Fantasy Theme Park. Americans should pay more attention to the sign that says: “Theme Park portrayals are for entertainment only, and have little bearing on reality”

  10. Yee says:

    “For What Should you Fight Russia or China?”

    For money, of course.

    Always keep in mind that war in Europe and Asia are good for the US, see the 2 world wars.

    Even if the US couldn’t stir up a major war, just by ratcheting up tensions might frighten capita to flee potential war zones. And where else could money in Europe and Asia go but the US market? Time to cash in the insanely high stocks…

    What Russia and China need to do is make sure the US understand that there’s no way it can stay out if there was a war…

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  11. Support another tinpot eastern European dictatorship when it provokes one of our chief economic rivals – it is Britain’s “diplomacy” of 1939 all over again, this time with nukes. What could possibly go wrong?

    Way back in 1898, President McKinley proclaimed the Pacific Ocean “an American lake”. We sure showed those sneaky Japs a thing or two about daring to put their home islands in our territory, by golly. If those commie gooks in Peking try to put their navy in our ocean after we withdraw our permission, we’ll make Hiroshima look like a weenie roast, coz ‘Murica!

  12. @mijj

    USA doesn’t war with Russia or China – Russia wins, China wins, USA implodes.

    The writing’s on the wall – too bad US elites forgot how to read!

    • Replies: @Malla
  13. El Dato says:

    This is fast ramping up to a typical WWI-style mess of butthurt assholes / dramatis personae overplaying their hand. It’s just the well-manicured beards which have gone out of style.

    With tensions rising in Donbass, Ukraine pulls out of Minsk peace talks: Kiev refuses to meet Russia & OSCE in Belarusian capital

    The Ukrainian delegation to peace talks on settling the conflict in Donbass will refuse to attend any discussions if they continue to be held in Minsk. Kiev accused Belarus of “hostile rhetoric” and being “influenced” by Russia.

    Reznikov’s assertion that Kiev will no longer go to Minsk follows attempts by other Ukrainian officials to move discussions to another country. Last summer, Ukraine’s former president Leonid Kravchuk, who now serves on the Donbass negotiation team, revealed that he tried to move talks from Minsk to Sweden.

    In response, the Russian Foreign Ministry then noted that “the key to success in settling the Ukrainian conflict is not in the change of negotiating venues or formats,” but simply the political will of all parties.

    Even the Britags are piling on for no good reason, having barely survived their COVID/BREXIT double combo:

    Moscow pledges retaliation to US & UK plans for rocket deployment in range of Russia’s borders, sparking new missile crisis fears

    Russia would be forced to defend itself if Western nations go through with plans to station short- and long-range missiles in Europe, a Moscow diplomat has warned, insisting they could be used to target the country’s air defenses.

    In a statement released on Monday, Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said that Washington was increasingly discussing proposals to deploy rocket launchers to the continent. Previously banned by the INF Treaty, research and development has reportedly resumed since the pact was torn up in 2019 by then-US President Donald Trump.

    The spokeswoman argued that “the British military has now joined in with the openly hostile and destabilizing rhetoric,” citing intentions to upgrade its missile launch complexes to “make it possible to deliver deep missile strikes, in order to neutralize enemy air defense systems.”

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  14. GeeBee says:
    @El Dato

    Europe is expected to see the largest deployment of US forces since the start of the 21st century. Around 20,000 American troops will participate, along with a 17,000-strong contingent from NATO member states

    That’s 37,000 NATO troops on exercise. I took part in Exercise Bold Guard, in northern Germany in October 1978, when there were more than twice that number of troops. I was commanding a British artillery unit, and we were attached to the 4th MAB for part of the exercise. It was my first experience of American troops, and even back then it was, to put it as diplomatically as possible, not an impressive encounter. What the USA’s new military of the ‘three-Ws’ (‘woke, women and wannabee-the-other-sex’) must be like I dread to think.

  15. Realist says:

    Americans should unite with Russia and China to stomp the Deep State to death.

    • Replies: @Malla
  16. Realist says:
    @mijj

    The demise of The United States is inevitable…the seeds of destruction that were planted four hundred years ago have reached maturity.

  17. Rurik says:

    ..Ukraine is not a member of NATO, and we have no treaty obligation to fight in its defense,..
    ..
    China is saying that it is not bluffing: These islands are ours!

    Time to show our cards.

    who the fuck is this “we” / “our”?

    I feel more solidarity, amity and kinship with the people of Russia and even China than I do to the ZUS government. The Russians and Chinese may not like me, but at least I don’t feel like they’re obsessed with a psychotic imperative to genocide all European-descended people off the face of the planet.

    The Ukraine is being occupied and run by ((Globohomo)), the enemy of all mankind.

    When Pat talks about “we” and “us” and “our”, just who the fuck is he talking about?!

    It’d be like the people of Crimea speaking as if the quislings in Kiev were them. Imagine a journalist in Crimea or Donbas speaking as if the zio-government of Ukraine were them, one and the same.

    Like we’re all supposed to pretend that the ZUS government (and (((media and courts and universities…))) are “we” ?

    It would be like an 18th century American Indian talking to the rest of his tribe, and explaining that ‘because this land is slated for a cattle ranch with a railroad going through it, we have decided that the best thing for us would be to resettle on some scrub lands a few hundred miles away.

    ‘So we decided that we will all be better off, for the good of us all, to collect our belongings and begin the long trek for our freedom and progress’.

    At least if such an Indian gave such a speech, it could be counted on that the sane members of his tribe would have cut his throat on the spot.

    It’s humiliating enough to be ordered around by an enemy government. But to sincerely pretend that such a government, is one’s own, and acting on one’s own behalf, isn’t just insane, but deadly.

  18. Notsofast says:

    it’s starting to feel like we have already fought and lost ww3. take a look around, who’s in charge, how did they get there? what’s happening to the police and the military? what happened to the constitution and the bill of rights? hunter now talks openly about his golden name but no one talks about his golden hedge fund he brought back as a souvenir on air force 2. it would be almost humorous if i wasn’t in the middle of it. check and mate.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  19. Realist says:
    @meamjojo

    I agree with your comment…but the cost is at least one trillion dollars.

  20. @meamjojo

    That sounds like a chapter from the ideology of Madeleine Albright ( actually not so bright) “ what do we have this wonderful military for if we don’t put it to use”.

    I hope you are being facetious.

    • Replies: @meamjojo
    , @Old Brown Fool
  21. This amounts to a war guarantee of the kind that forced the British to declare war on Germany in 1939 over the invasion of Poland

    The “war guarantee” was a ploy by Perfidious Albion, Pat, as any serious historian must know, using Poles as dupes.
    It’s aims were to get Poles to a) keep refusing reasonable negiotiation with Germany over Danzig/the “corridor” and b) continue to physically attack German citizens, eg –

    https://patri-x.com/bromberg-bloody-sunday-polish-jews-massacre-5500-germans-in-one-day-followed-by-thousands-more-in-the-next-few-days/

    in order to exascerbate a localised dispute and provoke the World War that their Jewish financier rulers demanded. The Polish govt seemed quite willing to be the dupes of Perfidious in this worthless and duplicitous “guarantee” … Swiftly-Rydz for example

    https://www.realhistorychan.com/edward-rydz-smigly-started-ww-2.html

  22. Malla says:
    @Realist

    Russia sure, China nah!!! The Chinese hate the West. In the case of Russia, race is or blood is the same. In the case of China, it is best just leave them alone as long as they leave Japan alone.

  23. Rahan says:

    Blacks in the US have figured out in the new climate they can attack random Asians on the street with impunity.
    By the summer they will have figured out they attack random whites on the street with impunity.
    All during lockdown induced economic wipeout, and casting white Americans who fight back as insane fascists.
    At this point the US govt says everything is the fault of China, Russia, and Iran.
    Will the retards on the left and right agree? Will they assume a big war will bring everyone together and restart the economy and bring about a new social contract? Will they be retarded enough and psychotic enough to agree?

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  24. @Yee

    None of this madness has anything to do with “money”; rather, it has to do with the devil-worshiping, demon-possessed madmen running the corrupt “West” who pursue the evil and utterly hopeless agenda set forth in Isaiah 14:13,14; the result of which will be Isaiah 14:15.

  25. meamjojo says:
    @Joe Levantine

    That sounds like a chapter from the ideology of Madeleine Albright ( actually not so bright) “ what do we have this wonderful military for if we don’t put it to use”.

    I hope you are being facetious.

    Yes, facetious but it is far past time to cut the so-called defense budget by at least 50% and deploy those monies to more society useful areas, such as infrastructure update, education or whatever.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  26. @Dumbo

    The propaganda lines are russia is the devil to the left blues. China is evil just because to the right reds.

    Very very many stupid sheep even here on unz in the comments.

    • Replies: @Veteran Aryan
  27. mike99588 says:
    @Anon

    As a loud Quad member, it’s hard to think Australia wouldn’t get a few in a nuclear melee …

  28. @Malla

    The Chinese hate the West.

    I don’t know if that’s true or not but to the extent it is, who could blame them (for hating the U.S. “government” at least)? China’s not putting missiles in Canada and Mexico, doing “freedom of navigation” exercises in the Gulf of Mexico, trying to destabilize Hawaii, cutting off the supply of semiconductors to U.S. companies to damage them economically, etc.; as always, the U.S. “government” is the aggressor doing it to them. The U.S. “government” is going out of its way to make itself hated all over the world.

    • Replies: @Malla
  29. SafeNow says:

    Coast Guards of Philippines and Taiwan are not authorized to use force to defend sovereignty. China recently increased CG armament, but then left it unclear whether the CCG would use force to defend sovereignty claims. I still worry about Chinese force to defend sovereignty claims. But, as I have said before, I believe China is sending a signal by playing at bumper boats — ramming, shouldering, double hulls. Maybe the US should deploy, instead of a carrier group, an icebreaker. CG restrictions:

    https://amti.csis.org/force-majeure-chinas-coast-guard-law-in-context/

  30. @GeeBee

    Or in the case of China, a Royar Frush.

    • Replies: @frankie p
  31. In 1999 Jews controlled 90% of Russian wealth. Now they control 25%. That’s a slight which cannot be left unanswered

  32. @USA1943

    The only thing you forgot to mention was Biden’s lame brain plan to have special flight suits made for all of those pregnant fighter pilots.

    • Replies: @USA1943
  33. USA1943 says:
    @follyofwar

    Yes our Secret Weapon, I doubt Russia and China have that LOL

  34. America just can’t mind its own business it seems. The Zionist empire and its M.I.C. must be fed.

  35. @meamjojo

    For sure, cut the military budget by 50% (or more). But make it a true Infrastructure bill, unlike in the democrats SJW plan, where only 5% goes for infrastructure. Fix the crumbling roads, bridges, and railroad tracks. Repair the electric grid before it collapses.

    But more money for education? When the teachers with their powerful unions have refused to go back to the classroom, using this much overhyped political flu as a lame excuse? Those Woke idiots, indoctrinating our children with their leftist nonsense, should not be rewarded for their subterfuge with ever more taxpayer money. How about cutting their bloated budgets by 50% also?

  36. @Malla

    There’s a non-zero probability of the deep state running the US into the ground to the extent it becomes a 3rd world country and parts of it start seceding

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  37. @Notsofast

    it’s starting to feel like we have already fought and lost ww3. take a look around, who’s in charge, how did they get there?

    You sound like someone that would enjoy the book, “Unrestricted Warfare,” à great deal.

    • Thanks: Notsofast
    • Replies: @Notsofast
  38. @follyofwar

    Those Woke idiots, indoctrinating our children with their leftist nonsense, should not be rewarded for their subterfuge with ever more taxpayer money.

    A sane society would have canceled benefits, clawed back salary, and fired all these disgusting creatures for non-performance months ago.

  39. @Dumbo

    Fed by Massa, then sacrificed by Massa. Europe, vitrified, Russia and the USA decline to touch each other. UK and, perhaps, France spared, to avoid unnecessary retaliation. Israel smirking.

  40. Not sure if Pat authors these delusional babblings. Hey Pat, is that you?

    Anyway, the US off-loaded 300 tons of war supplies this week to the Ukraine. Previous to that the faus Pres. Bidet called Putin a ‘killer’, zaid he would ‘pay’ and his underling, der Kiken of State, Blinkenfeld, told the Chinese, in Alaska, to stfu and do what they are told, whereupon said Chinese told der Kiken Blinkenfeld to stfu and gtfo town.
    So, my question to you Pat, is when do we start folowing a foreign policy where Kike filth aren’t trying to start a War where Han Chinese, Russianz and, mostly, white Americans get killed? Can you pull yourself away from your Meramucil enema long enough to tell me wtf is going on with Israeli, I mean, American foreign policy?
    Or should I just assume that you are in an age induced fog and someone has access to your email?
    Judaica Delenda Est.
    3 simple words Pat. Go out with your integrity and dignitas intact.

  41. @Rahan

    “Will they assume a big war will bring everyone together and restart the economy…? “

    I believe that that is exactly what they believe.

    “Will they be retarded enough and psychotic enough…?

    In light of events over the last year, is there really any question about that?

    • Thanks: Rahan
  42. @Caspar von Everec

    They will murder us before they allow us to secede. We, the moderates, are unwillingly involved in one of those homicide/suicide pacts with the Anglo/Communists in the USA.

  43. Notsofast says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    the first edition cover is kind of an eye opener and raises a lot of questions in my mind.

  44. @Astuteobservor II

    “Very very many stupid sheep even here on unz in the comments.”
    – dude here on unz in the comments

    Ironic, no?

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  45. anon[170] • Disclaimer says:

    Amazing. We want to defend our “allies” thousands of miles from home, when we can’t even defend ourselves against invaders on our Southern border.

    America is a joke.

    • Agree: anonymouseperson
  46. anon[170] • Disclaimer says:
    @follyofwar

    When the teachers with their powerful unions have refused to go back to the classroom, using this much overhyped political flu as a lame excuse? Those Woke idiots, indoctrinating our children with their leftist nonsense, should not be rewarded for their subterfuge with ever more taxpayer money.

    The cognitive dissonance of the right baffles me sometimes. If our schools are really such leftist indoctrination centers (which they are), why the hell would you want them to reopen? Shouldn’t you wish for them to stay close for as long as possible? Instead of seeing Covid as the best chance to push more families into homeschooling, getting their kids out of our horrible schools aka leftist indoctrination centers, conservatives are pushing for schools to reopen ASAP, so their kids can continue to get brainwashed.

    The cognitive dissonance of the right is just about as bad as that of the left.

    • Thanks: follyofwar
    • Replies: @Jokem
  47. Jokem says:
    @anon

    Conservatives do not want to pay for education (however faulty) they are not getting.

  48. Renoman says:

    Proof positive that Biden is not of sound mid and should be ousted immediately.

  49. Malla says:
    @Harold Smith

    who could blame them (for hating the U.S. “government” at least)?

    Yes, I understand their anger with the U.S government, I do not blame them. Asfar as U.S. bases in some countries like Japan or South Korea, how many Japanese or South Koreans support them and how many oppose them? That is what is needed to be found out.

    China’s not putting missiles in Canada and Mexico, doing “freedom of navigation” exercises in the Gulf of Mexico, trying to destabilize Hawaii, cutting off the supply of semiconductors to U.S. companies to damage them

    Agree. Even though China is not perfect, it is shameful how the USA elites are unnecessarily targeting China.

    But my point is that from a White Nationalist perspective, China is not a friend but not an enemy either (as it seems to becoming of the Zio elites). Many Chinese are trained by their own one sided history classes to hate the West and even Japan as a people and many (not all, not even the majority) would want genocide.
    Unfortunately for the Chinese, the 1.5 billions Indians are trained by their own one sided history classes to to hate the Chinese in the same way.

  50. The Biden administration – rightly or wrongly – believes “vital interests” are at stake in the growing confrontation with China and Russia. Unfortunately the pursuit of interest so often leads to war. There have already been two horrific world wars. We can’t avoid another – that’s in nobody’s interest. Yet mankind has not learned the lessons of history.
    https://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  51. @Malla

    But my point is that from a White Nationalist perspective, China is not a friend but not an enemy either (as it seems to becoming of the Zio elites).

    Frankly I don’t understand this point of view. White Nationalists can’t have friends of another race? White Nationalists can’t be on friendly terms with any country that isn’t “White”?

    Many Chinese are trained by their own one sided history classes to hate the West and even Japan as a people and many (not all, not even the majority) would want genocide.

    As I type this the satanic “West” flirts with WW3 (and potentially, planetary extinction). What sentient being on this planet doesn’t hate the satanists and their order-following servants who would bring this on the world? I live here and I hate the satanic West so I can’t see faulting anyone else (regardless of race or national origin) for feeling the same way.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Angharad
  52. Malla says:
    @Harold Smith

    White Nationalists can’t have friends of another race? White Nationalists can’t be on friendly terms with any country that isn’t “White”?

    I never said that, indeed of all the Nationalists in the world, White Nationalists can be the best friends with people of other nations. Because of all the nationalists on Earth (especially hindutva Nationalists), White Nationalists are far better informed about the World and history as well as they have a far more honest understanding of the World than naive Western libtards. An America run by White Nationalists would not have taken the present animosity with China but they would not have let Chinese imports destroy American manufacturing in the first place.
    What I meant is that many White Nationalists are looking at China as a Savoir, which I think is dangerous as many Chinese are trained to hate Western Whites (and the Japanese) to the point of genocide. After all they are taught the same one sided Leftist bullshit about history as American kids are taught in their propaganda class rooms back home. Not all Chinese would want that of course, many Chinese like White people and White cultures. All I am saying is beware.
    Russia on the other hand is different. While they too are taught many one sided anti-Western propaganda (and Westerners are taught one sided anti-Russian propaganda) , they are of the same race at the end of the day and Putin has supported many Nationalist parties in Western Europe. Russia and many Eastern European countries are comparatively far more nationalist and traditional than Western White countries and a huge chunk of their population are not happy with the mass immigration of foreign enemy race infiltrator populations brought in by the Western Governments and the progressing racial and cultural genocide among Western White nations. Russia has also allowed many White South African farmers to come to Russia. Though the USSR and even Communist China allied with Wall Street had played a big role in destroying European Empires in Africa as well as Rhodesia, South West Africa (Namibia) and Apartheid South Africa.

    • Disagree: GomezAdddams
  53. Malla says:
    @Ilya G Poimandres

    too bad US elites forgot how to read!

    I do not think the Globalist elites really care if the USA implodes, they are pushing the USA towards that direction in the first place. If the USA implodes, they have used and thrown away the USA at used toilet paper.

    • Agree: Angharad
  54. @peter mcloughlin

    The only ‘vital interest’ to the psychopaths in Thanatopolis DC is that the USA MUST rule the entire planet with ‘Full Spectrum Dominance’ forever, or until the End Times, whichever comes first.

    • Agree: Marshal Marlow
    • Replies: @GomezAdddams
  55. @Veteran Aryan

    Do you English? Many =/= all.

    So Un-American of you. Also, very American of you. It is rare to be stupid in so many ways. You won the genetic lottery.

    • Replies: @Veteran Aryan
  56. @Joe Levantine

    Apparently the same principle somebody adapted in 2019:

    “What do we have these fine viruses for if we don’t put them to use?”

  57. @USA1943

    And since none of the antagonists have followed these novel and brilliant ideas, their forces are stuck in mid 20th century, giving America more advantage!

  58. @Malla

    Unfortunately for the Chinese, the 1.5 billions Indians are trained by their own one sided history classes to to hate the Chinese in the same way.

    It is even worse; the 1962 conflict is not taught in history books; students learn about it through only media!

    • Replies: @Malla
  59. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Dumbo

    Biden apparently even wants to force Crimea back to the Ukraine, against the desires of its population… And neocons seem to want to go to war for that… But then again, was there any war that the neocons didn’t like?

    The neocons don’t give a damn about the Crimea or the Ukraine or Taiwan. The neocons want every nation on Earth to accept being part of a global American Empire. And they are prepared to risk nuclear war to achieve that objective.

    And besides, war is good for the military-industrial complex.

    These people are vultures.

    That’s being very unfair to vultures.

    Nuclear war is more likely today that at any time during the Cold War.

  60. Malla says:
    @Old Brown Fool

    When I learnt History in school in Delhi (90-2000 syllabus), it stopped at WW2! That was during Congress period. The new history books under the BJP are different. That time it was not anti-Islamic at all, indeed they showed Islamic Indian rulers as one of us (even though many were of Central Asian/Turkish stock). Of course it was genocidal and full of hatred and propaganda against the British. It also showed the Nazis in a bad light and showed the Russian Revolution in a good light.
    I came to know about the Indo-China War in school 1962, in a chapter in Hindi class, how a mountain boy bravely fought the Chinese invaders supporting the Indian soldiers and gave his life for his motherland. Our teacher, told us that the Chinese backstabbed us after telling us “Hindi Chini Bhai Bhai’ and attacking the next day. Why did China attack India? He proudly told us, China had a huge population problem so to cull their population, they attacked India so that our brave jawans could reduce their population for them.
    But already before that chapter came up, we all knew about the “evil Chinese and their aggression against our motherland”. All our elders spoke about it, there were serials on TV etc…

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  61. frankie p says:
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    Worse for the US: a Loyal Flush

  62. The SCS had always been a territory of China. The eleven/nine-dash line was a creation of the ROC and PRC, and fully endorsed by the post-war parties (China, Japan, US) and undisputed by the Philippines/Vietnam and Malaya (UK). Which is why the ROC controls the two largest islands in the group.

    It was only recently that the US uses this as a weapon against China, and the new claimants like Vietnam and Philippines grabbing dozens of small islands and rocks.

    US State Dept Chief of Spatial Geography and Boundary Analysis, Daniel Dzurek, who works as a professional geographer with distinction on this exact subject; from his book “The Spratly Islands dispute: Who’s on First”:

    “Because the Allies, in particular the United Kingdom and the United States, could not agree on which government represented China, no Chinese delegation participated in the 1951 San Francisco Peace Conference. Therefore the Republic of China (Taiwan) negotiated a separate peace treaty with Japan, signed on 28 April 1952. Article 2 of the text included a reference to the San Francisco treaty: “It is recognized that under Article 2 of the Treaty of Peace with Japan signed in the city of San Francisco in the United States of American on September 8 1951, Japan has renounced all right, title and claim to Taiwan (Formosa) and Penghu (the Pescadores) as well as the Spratly Islands and Paracel Islands”. Republic of China has argued that the explicit reference to the Spratly and Paracel islands in the text of this bilateral treaty implies Japanese recognition of Chinese sovereignty. Samuels and Lu have observed that, unlike the 1951 treaty, the Sino-Japanese text mentions the Spratly and Paracel islands in the same sentence as Taiwan and the Pescadores islands. The latter are generally recognized as Chinese territories. Moreover, according to the negotiating record Japan insisted that the renunciation article deal only with Chinese territory. This shows that the ROC and Japan viewed the islands of Taiwan, the Pescadores, the Spratlys, and the Paracels as having a similar status – that is, belonging to China”

    US State Dept South China Sea expert Ambassador Chas Freeman who served for decades in the region, regarding China’s claim to the SCS:

    “In 1945, in accordance with the Cairo and Potsdam Declarations and with American help, the armed forces of the Republic of China government at Nanjing accepted the surrender of the Japanese garrisons in Taiwan, including the Paracel and Spratly Islands. Nanjing then declared both archipelagoes to be part of Guangdong Province. In 1946 it established garrisons on both Woody (now Yongxing) Island in the Paracels and Taiping Island in the Spratlys.”

  63. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Lady Morticia will be having tea with Hillary Clinton later this week- Morticia is concerned over Bill’s staying at home watching TV 24/7 —primarily re-runs of the Munsters.

  64. Pat Buchanan is another draft dodger. Got himself classified 4-F back in 1960 because of “reactive arthritis” by the District of Columbia draft board. He was ONLY 22 years old. So Pat went to Columbia University and got a Masters Degree and moved up the D.C. shaky ladder of fame.
    A likeable guy but he needs to stop throwing around words like “if WE go to war’ and ” WE should go to war.” Buchanan won’t ever go to war nor will his children or grandchildren.

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
  65. @Astuteobservor II

    Do you English?

    Ironic, no? Was that supposed to be “U speaky Engrish?”

  66. @Veteran Aryan

    This retard doesn’t even know how to talk back.

  67. polistra says:

    China owns us. We’re not going to fight our owner.

  68. Incitatus says:

    “Two weeks ago, 20 Chinese military aircraft entered Taiwan’s air defense identification zone in the largest incursion yet by Beijing over the waters between Taiwan and Taiwan-controlled Pratas Islands.”

    Chicken Little redux? How blissfully clear skies are when the GOP is in control.

    Silence on Trump’s increased four-year (2017-20 vs Obama 2013-16) US-World Trade Deficit by $518,986,000,000 (+17.87%). ‘45’ increased the US-China deficit by $72,472,000,000 (+5.26%); the US-Mexico deficit by $131,864,000,000 (+56.7% despite claims of miraculous NAFTA reversal).

    Trump sent more jobs abroad in four years than Obama 2013-16, claimed otherwise, and boasted about the “most delicious piece of chocolate cake you’ve ever seen” served Xi Jinping at Mar-a-Lago. That’s the Trump-Buchanan-GOP!

    “As national security correspondent Bill Gertz writes in today’s Washington Times.”

    “National Security Correspondent” Bill Gertz? Do you mean high-school graduate Bill Gertz who slavishly dedicated his first book to cult-leader/employer Father Sun Myung Moon, owner of Washington Times? Yea, he’s a real gem.

    Gertz famously reported “France helped Iraqis Escape” 6 May 2003; followed with “Search for Iraqis Focuses on Europe” 7 May 2003; “Probe of French Passports Sought” 9 May 2003; “Rumsfeld Expects to Find French Aided Iraqis” 10 May 2003; “US Probes Passports as France Protest Lies” 17 May 2003; “Intelligence Team Finds French Passports in Iraq” 24 May 2003.

    A sensational series of unsourced lies and innuendo by a Moon sycophant who couldn’t even earn a college degree, all meant to punish France and prop up the (weak) Neocon/GOP Administration case for invasion. Where are those WMDs Bill Gertz and Pat?

    Saddam certainly wasn’t in Europe with an EU passport supplied by the French, despite tool Gertz and ‘Holy Father’ Moon. Naturally, neither corrected their screeds.

    Simple question: given the record of proven lies, why should anyone believe “National Security Correspondent” Bill Gertz? If you quote him as an authority, why should anyone believe you Pat?

    Give us a hint.

  69. Miville says:
    @Veteran Aryan

    In Esperanto you can : Ĉu vi anglas? (Do you english?) You can also put : Ĉu vi parole usonas? Though the standard question is “Ĉu vi parolas angle?”

    • Replies: @Veteran Aryan
  70. @El Dato

    So, we must all die because the Ukronazi orcs demand it.

  71. @El Dato

    A Russian attack on Little Britain would be a mercy killing-the place is a mad-house run by intellectually challenged hereditary chinless wonders, and the Jewish Board of Deputies.

  72. @Malla

    India is such a sad, sad, case.It does look like it would take centuries to recover from the depredations of the English, and learn to not grovel to the White Boss. But with accelerating climate destabilisation, they don’t have a chance.

    • Replies: @Malla
  73. @Miville

    Already under attack for not being woke enough:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_reform_in_Esperanto

    Does it ever end?

  74. Seceding is the way to go- Do it on a 12 month term- clean the slate (start off with a fresh constitution and laws) and get ready to start again in a year- Russia and China occupation while its all set up?????

  75. Malla says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    learn to not grovel to the White Boss

    You are obviously a low IQ monkey
    What part of this could you not get.

    Of course it was genocidal and full of hatred and propaganda against the British.

    Our textbooks are anti-British.

  76. Angharad says:
    @Harold Smith

    There is no “West” anymore. Jews are in total control of EVERY institution that was once “The West”.

    You hate the demon worshipping jews.

    • Agree: anonymouseperson
    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  77. @Angharad

    There is no “West” anymore. Jews are in total control of EVERY institution that was once “The West”.

    If you reread my comment, you’ll see I used the phrase “satanic ‘West’” – referring to the lands presently under the control of the spiritual heirs of the Pharisees, i.e. the first beast of Rev 13, Satan’s agent in the physical realm.

  78. @follyofwar

    “ For sure, cut the military budget by 50% (or more)”

    Much more. Think of Russia spending USD 40 billion and establishing a balance of terror with the mighty US armed forces. China’s substantial budget of around USD 275 is still dwarfed by the declared US defence budget of USD of 700+ without taking into account the intelligence agencies budget of around USD 70 billion and other black ops that inflate the total US military spending to close to one trillion USD as clearly documented by Chalmers Johnson in his many books about the American empire.

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