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Under fire for his handling of the coronavirus pandemic, President Donald Trump, his campaign and his party are moving to lay blame for the 80,000 U.S. dead at the feet of the Communist Party of China and, by extension, its longtime General Secretary, President Xi Jinping.

“There is a significant amount of evidence” that the virus originated in a Wuhan lab, said Secretary of State Mike Pompeo last week.

Trump himself seemed to subscribe to the charge:

“This is worse than Pearl Harbor. This is worse than the World Trade Center. There’s never been an attack like this… It could have been stopped in China. It should have been stopped right at the source.”

There is talk on Capitol Hill of suspending sovereign immunity so China may be sued for the damages done by the virus that produced a U.S. shutdown and a second Great Depression where unemployment is projected to reach near the 25% of 1933.

The Trump campaign has begun to target the Democratic nominee as “Beijing Biden” for his past collusion with China and his attack on Trump for “hysterical xenophobia” when Trump ended flights from China.
What is the historical truth?

On China, Trump is the first realist we have had in the Oval Office in decades. But both parties colluded in the buildup of China as she vaulted over Italy, France, Britain, Germany and Japan to become the world’s second power in the 21st century.

Both parties also dismissed Chinese trade surpluses with the U.S., which began at a few billion dollars a year in the early 1990s and have grown to almost $500 billion a year. Neither party took notice until lately of our growing dependency on Beijing for products critical to our defense and for drugs and medicines crucial to the health and survival of Americans.

The mighty malevolent China we face today was made in the USA.

But what do we do now? Can we coexist with this rising and expansionist power? Or must we conduct a new decades-long Cold War like the one we waged to defeat the Soviet Empire and Soviet Union?

The U.S. prevailed in that Cold War because of advantages we do not possess with the China of 2020.

From 1949-1989, a NATO alliance backed by 300,000 U.S. troops in Europe “contained” the Soviet Union. No Soviet ruler attempted to cross the dividing line laid down at Yalta in 1945. Nor did we cross it.

East of the Elbe, the Soviet bloc visibly failed to offer the freedoms and prosperity the U.S., Western Europe and Japan had on offer after World War II. America won the battle for hearts and minds.

Moreover, ethnic nationalism, the idea that separate and unique peoples have a right to determine their own political and cultural identity and destiny, never died in the captive nations of Europe and the USSR.

China today does not suffer from these deficiencies to the same degree. Unlike the USSR, China has four times our population. Where the USSR could not compete economically and technologically, China is a capable and dynamic rival of the U.S.

Moreover, if we begin a Cold War II with China, we would not be starting with the advantages Truman’s America, undamaged at home in World War II, had over Stalin’s pillaged and plundered land in 1945.

Where ethnic nationalism tore the USSR apart into 15 nations, today’s China is more of an ethno-nationalist state with Han Chinese constituting 1 billion of China’s 1.4 billion people.

There are millions of Tibetans, Uighurs, Kazakhs in southwest and west China, and tens of millions of Buddhists, Christians, Muslims, Falun Gong and other religious minorities. But China is unlike the multiracial, multiethnic, multicultural, multilingual Moscow-centered and Russian-controlled Soviet Empire and USSR that shattered after 1989.

China’s weaknesses?

She is feared and distrusted by her neighbors. She sits on India’s lands from the war of the early 1960s. She claims the whole South China Sea, whose waters and resources are also claimed by Vietnam, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, the Philippines and Taiwan.

The peoples of Hong Kong and Taiwan fear that Beijing intends to overrun and rule them.

Even Vladimir Putin has reason to be suspicious as Beijing looks at the barren but resource-rich lands of Siberia and the Russian Far East, some of which once belonged to China.

ORDER IT NOW

China is thus a greater rival than the USSR of Stalin and Khrushchev and Brezhnev, but the U.S. is not today the nation of Ronald Reagan, with its surging economy and ideological conviction we would one day see the ideology of Marx and Lenin buried.

Three decades of post-Cold War foolish and failed democracy-crusading have left this generation not with the conviction and certitude of Cold War America, but with ashes in their mouths and no stomach to spend blood and treasure converting China to our way of life.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

Copyright 2020 Creators.com.

 
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  1. Patkins…

    Does China surround US militarily or does the US surround China militarily?

    Does China hold Hawaii as puppet state to be used against the US or does the US hold Taiwan as a puppet state to be used against China?

    Does China have a history of imperialist aggression against the US or does the US have a history of imperialist aggression(in collusion with Europeans and Japan) against China?

    American political moralizing is the most obnoxious and repulsive. Here is a nation founded on total ‘genocide’ of the native populations, and it goes on and on yammering about human rights and justice even as it bullies the whole world militarily.

    Now, it’d be good for the US to cut or reduce ties with China and rebuild the American working class. But THAT decision is up to Jews, the real masters over the cucked out white race in the US. If whites need any kind of war, it is a Cold War with Jewish Power whose future vision for both US and EU is MORE DIVERSITY and BLAME WHITEY. Naturally, whites should be most angry with Jews, but of course, Jews know this, and it is why Jews use their white goy cuck-collaborators to direct all the White Rage at China(when not Russia or Iran… or even Venezuela). And even though Buchanan has gotten in hot water with the Jews in the past, he won’t mention Jewish Power because he’s too much of a ‘boomer’.

    US is truly special in world history because it’s an empire with an empire. This makes its power awesome but also obnoxious. American Power has a super fat-burger mentality. It’s not enough to have the biggest burger but must have the super-fat-burger, the biggest burger plus MORE.

    Before there was America as Superpower or empire-empire, there were many empires in world history. These empires had an ethnic core and ruled over other peoples. And most of these empires were smaller than half of US, even 1/3 of US. The entirety of the Ottoman Empire or Austro-Hungarian Empire could fit into the US several times. The Roman empire at its height was smaller than continental US.
    French and British empires were truly huge, but they were still empires in the traditional sense. There was the dominant ethnic core in modest-sized nations ruling over others. Take away the empire, and the core nation wasn’t much of a power on its own. British Empire could be an empire only by ruling over non-Brits.
    But due to its vast size and diverse population, the US developed as an empire. For most of its history, US was an Anglo-empire ruling over ethnic whites, blacks, American Indians, and non-white immigrant groups. Even without overseas possessions and military bases, US was an empire all on its own, and many times larger than the Ottoman Empire and Austro-Hungarian empire. In other words, if any nation didn’t need an empire, it was the US, an empire unto itself, esp with Alaska and Hawaii.

    This is why the notion of the American Empire is the most piggish in world history. Whatever criticism one could make of British, French, Turkish, Austrian, Byzantine, Persian, or Japanese empires, at the very least one could argue that those peoples could be a GREAT POWER only with an empire. In contrast, US doesn’t need an empire to be great. But apparently, being great isn’t enough. US must have more and more and more. It is downright insatiable in its appetite for the ever bigger fat-burger. It went from Ugly American to Ugly Fat American to Ugly Fatty-Fatso American to Ugly Fatty Fatso Fatkin America and etc.

    Buchanan wrote a book called REPUBLIC, NOT AN EMPIRE, but it really should have been called NATION-EMPIRE, NOT AN EMPIRE-EMPIRE. There is no way the US cannot be an empire. Even if US were to go totally ‘isolationist’, it would still be an empire because it was founded as an empire(by the Brits) and expanded as an empire(against the Indians and Mexicans).
    Also, mass immigration was a form of import-imperialism. Traditionally, the imperialists conquered other lands and ruled over natives who served as peons, e.g. British Imperialists used Hindu labor in India.
    But as the US continent was vast and empty(and as Indians weren’t good for anything but shooting arrows and getting drunk and were too few in number), the US had to import the peons. The most blatant form of import-imperialism was the black slave trade, but later immigrants were brought from Eastern and Southern Europe(and even from China and Japan) to provide the labor force to build up the Anglo-American nation-empire. So, the notion of the US as just a nation is absurd. It was always an empire because its very foundation and development model were imperialist.
    The real question is HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH? Is America, so vast and rich, enough for American elites, OR must they rule over the whole world and push others around?

    In their super fat-burger mentality, the US elites are hardly different from Richard Spencer. What do David Frum and Richard Spencer have in common? One is Jewish and other is Anglo, but both are insatiable in their appetite for more and more and more. Whether Spencer sees himself as comic-book Nietzschean James Bond or Frum considers himself a Neocon Blofeld, the ‘world is not enough’ for either of them. As such, they represent the especially cancerous worldview of the Anglos and the Jews, and the Anglo-Zionist Axis is one of the most obnoxious(and evil) the world has ever seen.

  2. I’m not sure it will be possible for the United States to avoid a future cold war with China.

    First, there is the issue of history. The past has shown us that great power conflicts between rising and established powers are almost a certainty (Rome / Carthage, Athens / Sparta, USA / USSR, France / Britain, Western Europe / Germany, Western Europe / Russia, Germany / USSR). Even if you claim China will somehow be different due to culture or geography or ethnicity or whatever, the United States will not be. If one party is spoiling for a fight, the other is obligated to return the favor; I believe that’s a line Pat Buchanan himself once wrote in one of his books.

    Second, there is a fundamental psychology behind conflict that makes it attractive depending upon circumstance. There are several books on game theory and war that elaborate on this topic; John Mearsheimer wrote an excellent book on the subject, “The Tragedy of Great Power Politics.” The Chinese are human like everyone else. I don’t expect them to prove any different from every other group in history. It’s naive to believe otherwise.

    Qin’s wars of unification

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qin%27s_wars_of_unification

    Perhaps more importantly, American demographics may predestine a conflict. America isn’t a normal country in the same sense as Japan or South Korea. It is a political body not bound by any common bond one might normally build an international relationship upon — religion, culture, philosophy, ethnicity, history … increasingly, even language. Instead, Covid-19 has revealed that it’s really nothing more than an inefficient, loosely aligned federation of squabbling groups, all of whom have competing interests and only one common pursuit: self-gratification. There’s probably no better representation of this country than all the social media posts coming from supposed “nationalists” celebrating the end of stringent social distancing — after having previously dismissed the threat as a hoax — by rushing out to take pictures of themselves scarfing down hamburgers at local restaurants. Americans are a doomed people.

    China’s rise will threaten the American standard of living, so obviously those groups are going to unite around whatever arises to mitigate that. Since it won’t be possible to pursue national self-improvement strategies due to ethnic and gender set-asides, economic mitigation of China will probably come from a point of belligerence; it’s easy and, until now, it’s been relatively cheap. I expect more propaganda, tariffs, threats, and military adventurism in the future — from both sides, but probably starting from the United States first. You already see that with a flood of YouTubers (and propaganda outlets like Epic Times) blindly attacking “China” despite the obvious hypocrisy of their complaints: pretty much everything they accuse China of (censorship, racism, government corruption) is found in equal or superior measures within the United States.

    Mostly, Americans just feel threatened … and for good reason. Any nation that builds its foundational myth upon being the shining city on a hill, the world’s preeminent moral authority, is almost obligated to maintain that mythos. That means having a dominating military-industrial complex and near-constant conflict upon multiple fronts — social, geopolitical, economic. It’s not like the United States has anything to fall back on.

    • Agree: Mary Marianne, Jaylonw
    • Replies: @Divine Right
  3. anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:

    Once again, Mr. Buchanan is saying that Uncle Sam should bestride the globe if only “we” could. This website’s “Mr. Paleoconservative” is just a right-sizing imperialist. And with Chinadidit fizzling, he now has to feign concern on behalf of “her” neighbors, including even Russia, supposedly threatened by “this rising and expansionist power.”

    The mighty malevolent China we face today was made in the USA.

    Could any more projection or arrogance be written with a mere dozen words?

  4. @Divine Right

    Epic Times

    Epoch Times, I meant to say. They’re running an ad campaign on YouTube now. It opens with “did you know China is blaming the US for …”. YouTube features a large array of China-devoted channels with mysterious sources of financing. Epoch Times is one of them. Supposedly, they are based in Hong Kong.

    [MORE]

    Epoch Times: 207k YouTube subscribers

    https://www.youtube.com/user/epochtimesdigital/videos

    Little Known Epoch Times Is Largest Pro-Trump Spender On Facebook | All In | MSNBC

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uchUFah2dBQ

    Pro-Trump News Outlet The Epoch Times Funded By Chinese Spiritual Group | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdSFaR2Tll8

    NTD: Vietnam (?) 344k YouTube subscribers

    China Uncensored: 1.2M YouTube subscribers

    *May be affiliated with NTD

    https://www.youtube.com/user/NTDChinaUncensored/videos

    China In Focus: 388k YouTube Subscribers

    *NTD

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBOqkAGTtzZVmKvY4SwdZ2g/videos

    … etc.

    • Replies: @thetruth
  5. DB Cooper says:

    “She sits on India’s lands from the war of the early 1960s.”

    This is left is right up is down logic. What is India’s land anyway? There is no such thing as India until it was created out of the polity left behind by the British. The most one can give is India is entitled to whatever land grab the Raj was able to steal but not anymore. The fact is as of today India is still occupying a piece of China as we speak. The whole thing dates back to the time when the British has an empire in South Asia and the Raj was beginning to intrude into China’s territory at the turn of the last century. In fact the Republic of China (aka Taiwan) was issuing diplomatic protests after diplomatic protests to London of the Raj’s territorial intrusions but were duly ignored every single time. After all this was the heyday of British imperialism. When the British retreated and India was created India continues the expansionist policy of the Raj and continue the land grabbing activities of the Raj without missing a bit. In 1951, three and a half years after the British has already left the subcontinent, India finally trekked up and invaded and annexed Tawang, South Tibet. Tawang at the time was still hoisting the flag of the Republic of China (aka Taiwan) and Ambans from Lhasa were still stationing and collecting taxes there. Tawang is the birthplace of the Sixth Dalai Lama and home to a four hundred years old Tibetan monastery. The place is indisputedly historic Tibetan and has nothing to do with South Asia. In 1987 India renamed South Tibet to the so called Arunachal Pradesh and made it a state. Once again the Republic of China (Taiwan) issued a statement vehemently condeming India’s land grab even though by that time the Republic of China (aka Taiwan) has already been relegated to the island of Formosa since 1949.

    https://www.bbc.com/zhongwen/trad/chinese-news-40862957​​
    ​​
    Here is an excerpt of the statement issued by the Republic of China (aka Taiwan) (translated from Chinese):​​
    ​​
    “In regards to the issue of the Indian government illegal occupation of our country’s territory and establishes the so called ‘Arunachal Pradesh’ the foreign ministry of the Republic of China (aka Taiwan) put out this announcement in midnight as follows:​​
    ​​
    India illegal occupation of our country’s territory, the government of the Republic of China has repeatedly stated that it will not recognize. Recently the congress of India unilaterally pass the establishment of the ‘Arunachal Pradesh’ on the south of the so called McMahon Line. India government also made it into a state, the government of the Republic of China once again solemnly proclaim: the government of India intend to legitimize its illegal occupation of the territory of China, the government of the Republic of China regards this as illegal, void and absolutely not recognized.”​​
    ​​
    Since 2009 occupied South Tibet is recognized by the United Nation as a disputed territory, making India the only country occupying two United Nation recognized disputed territories. The other being Kashmir. Today occupied South Tibet is restless and India knows it. This is the reason AFSPA (Armed Force Special Power Act) is imposed on South Tibet. AFSPA gives the state the power to detain or kill anyone with impunity. It is a law meant to suppress dissents. It is imposed on area India deemed ‘disturbed’, such as Kashmir, the northeast and South Tibet. Under AFSPA rape by Indians are not even recognized as a crime. And rape by Indians in occupied South Tibet is rampant, which is no surprise given that India is the land of the rape. A couple of years ago yet another rape of a Tibetan girl by Indians triggered a massive protest in Bomdila, South Tibet which eventually prompt the then Indian defense minister to personally fly in to the area to deliver a stern warning to the locals to behave or else. Today Tibetans in occupied South Tibet are seething with anger but they are voiceless because they are not the right kind of Tibetans and the MSM couldn’t care less.

    Free South Tibet from India.

    • Agree: Mary Marianne
    • Replies: @DB Cooper
    , @DB Cooper
    , @Escher
  6. DB Cooper says:
    @DB Cooper

    Just to be clear, what precipitate the 1962 war is that India, having already gobbled up South Tibet in 1951, continues to push northward because as a proud British Raj wannabe India sees itself as the new imperial power in the block and bullying and land grabbing is what the Raj did and hence India imitated. China wasn’t alone in being land grabbed by India. All of India’s neighbors have been land grabbed by India. Here is a selected list:

    [MORE]

    1947 Annexation of Kashmir:
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/02/06/indias-shame/
    http://thediplomat.com/2015/08/kashmirs-young-rebels/
    1949 Annexation of Manipur:
    http://www.tehelka.com/manipurs-merger-with-india-was-a-forced-annexation/
    http://www.passblue.com/2017/09/05/in-lush-manipur-women-work-for-peace-as-militarization-marches-on/
    1949 Annexation of Tripura:
    http://www.crescent-online.net/2009/09/the-myths-of-one-nation-and-one-hinduism-in-india-zawahir-siddique-2316-articles.html
    1951 Annexation of South Tibet:
    http://kanglaonline.com/2011/06/khathing-the-taking-of-tawang/
    http://www.mainstreamweekly.net/article2582.html
    http://chasfreeman.net/india-pakistan-and-china/
    1954 Annexation of Nagaland:
    http://morungexpress.com/desire-nagas-live-separate-nation-deserved/
    http://nagalandmusings.blogspot.com/2013/01/indias-untold-genocide-of-nagas.html
    1954 Attempt annexation of Sikkim and Bhutan (Failed):
    http://redbarricade.blogspot.hk/2013/01/twisted-truth.html
    1961 Annexation of Goa:
    http://www.ruleoflaw.org.au/the-annexation-of-goa/
    http://www.historytoday.com/richard-cavendish/goa-falls-indian-troops
    http://goa-invasion-1961.blogspot.in/2013/09/india-pirated-goa-china-is-regaining_16.html
    1962 Annexation of Kalapani, Nepal:
    http://www.eurasiareview.com/07032012-indian-hegemony-in-nepal-oped/
    http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1239348
    http://www.sharnoffsglobalviews.com/land-disputes-116/
    1962 Aggression against China:
    http://gregoryclark.net/redif.html
    http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/news-events/podcasts/renewed-tension-indiachina-border-whos-blame
    1971 Annexation of Turtuk, Pakistan:
    http://www.openthemagazine.com/article/nation/suddenly-indian
    1972 Annexation of Tin Bigha, Bangladesh:
    http://www.dhakatribune.com/op-ed/2014/feb/20/killing-fields
    1975 Annexation of Sikkim (the whole country):
    http://nepalitimes.com/issue/35/Nation/9621#.UohjPHQo6LA
    http://www.passblue.com/2015/07/22/a-small-himalayan-kingdom-remembers-its-lost-independence/

    http://asia.nikkei.com/Politics-Economy/International-Relations/Indian-hegemonism-drags-Himalayan-kingdom-into-oblivion
    http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/annexation-of-sikkim-by-india-was-not-legal-wangchuk-namgyal/1/391498.html
    1983 (Aborted) Attempted invasion of Mauritius:
    http://thediplomat.com/2013/03/when-india-almost-invaded-mauritius/
    1984 Annexation of Ladakh
    https://dailytimes.com.pk/452178/china-and-indian-annexation-of-kashmir-ladakh/
    1987 Invasion of Sri Lanka
    http://www.asiantribune.com/node/63316
    1990 (Failed) First Attempted annexation of Bhutan:
    http://www.nytimes.com/1990/10/07/world/india-based-groups-seek-to-disrupt-bhutan.html
    2006 Annexation of Duars, Bhutan:
    http://wangchasangey.blogspot.in/2015/11/different-kind-of-anxieties-on.html#comment-form
    2013 Annexation of Moreh, Myanmar:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nehginpao-kipgen/easing-indiamyanmar-borde_b_4633040.html
    2017 Aggression against China:
    http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2017/07/06/sikkim-stand-off-china-india-collide-himalayas/
    http://www.scmp.com/week-asia/geopolitics/article/2102555/indias-china-war-round-two
    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/07/11/china-india-standoff-modi-has-bitten-off-more-than-he-can-chew/
    2017 (Failed) Second Attempted annexation of Bhutan:
    http://wangchasangey.blogspot.com/2017/08/the-strategy-behind-india-doklam.html
    http://www.scmp.com/comment/insight-opinion/article/2106709/india-must-find-face-saving-pretext-and-withdraw-doklam
    2018 (Thwarted) Attempt invasion of the Maldives
    https://www.ft.com/content/332a5b1a-1155-11e8-8cb6-b9ccc4c4dbbb
    https://thewire.in/223916/keep-off-maldives-yameen-government-tells-indian-military/?utm_source=alsoread

    • Thanks: animalogic
  7. Anonymous,[603] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    America will be very lucky if it even exists in it’s current form 20-years from now. Getting into a ‘Cold War II’ scenario is not going to be in the cards.

    It may make a desperate attempt to destroy the infrastructure China has been building for the last 20-30 years. I wouldn’t put it past them, but the hour is getting late for even that strategy.

    • Replies: @animalogic
    , @The Alarmist
  8. nsa says:

    Fatso Trumpstein, our own home grown white version of Idi Amin, and his merry band of jooies really stepped in it this time. The Chinese, WHO, the CDC, CIA, cable TV, BBC, Australia, South Korea, almost everyone warned him the wu-wu was heading this way and he needed to prepare. So how did our national hero and savior prepare? For six weeks he did nothing , playing golf in between gloating about the Chinese inability to control a little flu outbreak. His econ guru, Krudlow, outright dismissed the wu-wu in February as just being the flu and nothing to get all pissy about. Wouldn’t be a problem if the slant dummies didn’t eat bats and cats and rats, they stopped spitting everywhere they go, and they had a real medical system, right? Early March the wu-wu took hold in America and Trumpstein flat out panicked. No more herd immunity nonsense…..it was now all about saving granny by producing millions of those stupid venitlators. Now that the wu-wu is spreading out of control across the fruited plain, and Trumptein looks to be an incompetent ass-clown bullshitter and total tool of his jooie entourage…..what to do? Main Street has tanked (Wall Street still doing fine, for now) and the proles are pissed. Only one thing to do…..gin up an external enemy to deflect the blame. Hence, the new wu-wu war with China. The stupidity, hubris, and incompetence of Trumpstein and his merry band of self-serving jooies are just breathtaking.

  9. Exile says:

    China is neither dispositionally-inclined or geostrategically-positioned for cross-cultural hegemony. They’re an economic global competitor and a regional cultural and military power at worst. They have little need or interest in empire in the globalist sense of Britain or the USA.

    The Han lack the necessary traits, including philosophical depth, spirituality, aesthetics or Will to Power in the European sense, as well as the basic social skills to aspire to that sort of empire, much less actualize it.

    They’re a race of merchants, not visionaries, and they could not long or successfully rule over disparate peoples. If such an empire were even practically viable or desirable in this age (which it isn’t – if it ever was), they’re possibly the least-suited of the potential imperialists to make it happen.

    • Replies: @Jaylonw
    , @Anonymous
  10. Anonymous[112] • Disclaimer says:

    Pat, I don’t know why you carry water for these people after the way they treated you in the 1990s.

    • Replies: @nsa
    , @Buck Ransom
  11. @Anonymous,

    “America will be very lucky if it even exists in it’s current form 20-years from now.”
    I tend to agree.
    The key variable (I believe) will be the US dollar. The US can, likely, only maintain its Imperial pretensions on the back of its reserve currency privelige. China & Russia are actively working against the dollar — & who could blame them? US (criminal) sanctions rely on control of financial entities via the dollar.
    US & China conflict is assured — the only question is it’s form & degree. Neither can back down, however, either may hesitate & fail to take a final fatal step.
    Nuclear weapons are an obvious cause for hesitation.
    That the US has no realistic chance of winning a war between the two on profitable terms is equally obvious.
    Could the US thru a mixture of recklessness & negligence initiate conflict (beyond the mere economic) ? Yes.
    As Cov19 shows, US government professionalism & competence is shambolic. US elites generally are white- anted out with corruption.
    Further, given that the next 4-5 years will be under the leadership of Trump or Biden, then … optimism is probably not the best bet.

    • Agree: Realist
    • Replies: @BobM11
  12. Realist says:

    “There is a significant amount of evidence” that the virus originated in a Wuhan lab, said Secretary of State Mike Pompeo last week.

    Pompeo is a self confessed liar…and Trump is the dumb son of a bitch that hired him.

    The mighty malevolent China we face today was made in the USA.

    This from a guy deeply involved in the Presidency of Nixon…someone who caused tremendous damage to this country…I don’t mean Watergate.

    China gained much of its power from the stupid avarice of those only interested in increasing their wealth…short term…with indifference to long term destruction.

    • Agree: Rurik
    • Replies: @Buck Ransom
    , @T. Weed
  13. KenH says:

    Moreover, ethnic nationalism, the idea that separate and unique peoples have a right to determine their own political and cultural identity and destiny, never died in the captive nations of Europe and the USSR.

    The white peoples of Eastern Europe and Russia who emerged from communism are far saner and culturally and spiritually healthier than their “free” Western brothers. Communism can be a brutal system but if we could have the version they had that didn’t demographically swamp with third world races or treat them as contemptible untouchables then I’ll take that version of communism over the “freedom” we’re told we have in America.

    Of course, a big reason why post WWII communism was culturally conservative and nationalistic was because they killed and purged Jews from positions of power.

    • Agree: Rurik
  14. “…If we begin a Cold War II with China, we would not be starting with the advantages Truman’s America, undamaged at home in World War II, had over Stalin’s pillaged and plundered land in 1945.”

    Pat Buchanan is a perceptive commentator. It is wise not to think of a Cold War II as a sequel to the first. The solution is difficult to find. But leaders disastrously delude themselves they are fighting an earlier war. They did that in 1914 and 1939. Now we face the prospect of a third world war.

    https://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  15. She is feared and distrusted by her neighbors. She sits on India’s lands from the war of the early 1960s. She claims the whole South China Sea, whose waters and resources are also claimed by Vietnam, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, the Philippines and Taiwan.

    To echo someone above Hindu-dominated India is a paper republic compared to China. The rest are China’s economic competitors. Their slave labor also helped to wreck American manufacturing.

    The peoples of Hong Kong and Taiwan fear that Beijing intends to overrun and rule them.

    The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) isn’t dumb enough to kill those economies. Both in fact enabled China’s economic rise by mobilizing capital for industries.

    China is thus a greater rival than the USSR of Stalin and Khrushchev and Brezhnev, but the U.S. is not today the nation of Ronald Reagan, with its surging economy and ideological conviction we would one day see the ideology of Marx and Lenin buried.

    Beat back the HUN with LIBERTY BONDS reloaded.

    El Trumpo and cohorts risk repeating Hussein Obama’s failed pivot towards Asia policy that was designed to contain China.

  16. nsa says:
    @Anonymous

    “Pat, I don’t know why you carry water for these people…..”
    Priss, in comment #1 above explained it to you. Paddy is just another geriatric chrissy goy suckup cuck doing the jew’s business, in between apologizing for the antics of his beloved church queering kids across the globe. It’s that simple.

  17. 22pp22 says:

    This CCP worship is pathetic. A real cargo cult.

    • Replies: @anon
  18. @Realist

    “There is a significant amount of evidence” that the virus originated in a Wuhan lab, said Secretary of State Mike Pompeo last week.

    And there is the fact that Dr. Anthony Fauci directed a $3.7 million grant of funding to the Wuhan laboratory some years back, to collaborate with the U.S. on the study of Corona viruses.

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @thetruth
  19. @Priss Factor

    81 year-old Buchanan, born in 1938, is hardly a boomer. The Boomer generation began after the War in 1946, the same year that Trump was born.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  20. @peter mcloughlin

    The US under Trump is already in a Cold War with China, and has been since he was elected. And, it was already losing badly, but the insane over-reaction by its leadership to the Covid PLANdemic has finished this dying empire off for good. Only the 1% Masters of the Universe who run the globo-homo economy will benefit, and they are enemies of the US people.

    If China deliberately started this plandemic, and I don’t think they did, it was a master stroke on their part. If Trump starts a Hot War with China he will rue the day he did. Buchanan’s America is dead, but I’m not sure if he knows it.

  21. “The mighty malevolent China we face today was made in the USA.”

    I had to stop reading at this point. Buchanan, the malevolent, mendacious, utterly moronic imperial mouthpiece that he is, has no standing to criticize anyone else for anything.

    • Agree: bluedog
  22. DB Cooper says:
    @DB Cooper

    Here is what happened in the Bomdila incident a couple of years ago. Two Indian jawans rape suspects were held by the local police (make up of local Tibetans) in a police station. This cause the Indian army to go to the police station and freed the two captives by force and vandalized the police station which in turn triggered a massive protest by the people and eventually prompt the then Indian defense minister to go to the area and deliver an ominous warning to the local Tibetan people to behave. Since then the anger of the Tibetans in occupied South Tibet have reached a boiling point because they know that even the police themselves are intimidated by the occupying Indian army. The two rape suspects got away scot free (per AFSPA) and the Indian jawans in occupied South Tibet are even more emboldened since then because they know they can do whatever they want, including rape, and there is nothing the Tibetans can do about it.

    Free South Tibet from India.

  23. T. Weed says:
    @Realist

    I agree that Pompeo is a fat lying warmonger in Israel’s pocket. About where the virus started, Ron Unz, in an essay a few days ago, thinks it might have started in a US lab, and was brought to China. But Oh, the military-industrial-Zion Complex would love to start a new Cold War, to keep the money flowing!

    • Replies: @d dan
    , @Realist
  24. @follyofwar

    That’s why I put ‘boomer’ in quotes.

    Buchanan isn’t technically a boomer but has some of the boomer mentality. Granted, as an arch-con, Buchanan opposed much of boomer attitudes, but his mindset was formed in the Cold War era, of which boomer-dom was a part. Boomers went from criticism of the empire in the 60s to embrace of empire in the 80s and 90s. Now, it’s true that Buchanan went the other way. He was defender of the empire in the 60s and later critic of empire, esp after end of Cold War. Still, he’s locked in the mindset of US hegemonism. Even as he opposes empire, he has trust in its institutions. When the Russia Collusion nonsense broke out, Buchanan believed much of the Russia hacking story EVEN AS he opposed confrontation with Russia. Buchanan, a DC resident all his life, still has too much trust in the elites.

    • Agree: GazaPlanet
    • Replies: @GazaPlanet
  25. d dan says:
    @T. Weed

    “I agree that Pompeo is a fat lying warmonger in Israel’s pocket. About where the virus started, … might have started in a US lab.”

    I thought you are going to say the virus started in a fat lying warmonger’s corpse. OK, my mistake.

    But, but virus always started out from a fat lying warmonger’s mouth, right?

    • Agree: T. Weed
  26. anon[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @22pp22

    This CCP worship is pathetic. A real cargo cult.

    It’s indicative of a loss in social cohesion and institutional faith in the United States. The same phenomenon was seen in the Soviet Union in the late 80s. America isn’t a real country with anything that holds it together other than instant gratification — fast food, reality television, mobile phone apps. People naturally want to share common bonds in some larger group or cause. It’s not surprising some would seek out something else when nothing is left here; in this case, disaffected people live vicariously through others (Russia, China, Japan, etc.). What exactly is left to belong to in the U.S. besides failed economic ideologies and corrupt political parties? There is no common religion, ethnicity, race, language, philosophy or even nationality anymore. No common decency either. It’s every man for himself.

    • Agree: 22pp22
    • Replies: @Escher
  27. Realist says:
    @T. Weed

    I just don’t think it is known where the virus started.

    • Replies: @T. Weed
  28. Realist says:
    @Buck Ransom

    And there is the fact that Dr. Anthony Fauci directed a $3.7 million grant of funding to the Wuhan laboratory some years back, to collaborate with the U.S. on the study of Corona viruses.

    Yes, strange indeed.

  29. Paul says:

    “. . . the U.S. is not today the nation of Ronald Reagan, with its surging economy. . . .”

    It resembles Reagan’s piling up of debt.

  30. Paul says:

    “Three decades of post-Cold War foolish and failed democracy-crusading. . . .”

    More like three decades (many more actually) of imperialist adventures.

  31. The great are doomed to fall,
    Hanged by their own cabal.

  32. BobM11 says:
    @animalogic

    “America will be very lucky if it even exists in it’s current form 20-years from now.”

    The more pressing fact is that America already does not exist in the form it existed when I grew up in the 60’s and 70’s. Heck, it bears no real resemblance to the form it existed in just 20 years ago. Remember August 2001? If anyone told you back then about the transformation the country was about to make you would have laughed at them, and so would most of the rest of us.

    We are now beyond the “slippery slope” and are already enmeshed within a brutal police state that has huge mass surveillance capabilities (that are in full use against the American public) and is on the precipice of near total awareness of the most minute details of any particular individuals life who happens to catch their attention. Our government has already been taken over by foreigners and has been going back a 100 years. These foreigners achieved near total power over the US government in 1963. We cannot vote our way out of this…we’ve been trying for decades now with no luck. The only political power left to Americans is their ability and willingness to take to the streets and march on Washington. Short of that, there is no hope.

    Some will call what I’ve written here “conspiracy theory”, but sadly it is the only conclusion one can draw from the available facts.

    • Agree: JasonT
  33. BobM11 says:

    Pat alludes to this but does not come right out and say it…People who think the US government is embarking on a “cold war 2” with China are mistaken. The US has zero chance to prevail in such a contest and the people ruling us have no intention to engage in such a policy. What we are seeing is the run up not to a cold war, but to a very violent and destructive hot war with China.

    My guess is that the US is presently setting the stage for a massive preemptive strike on China. The goal to be the removal of China as a viable competitor. My guess is they will neuter that portion of the Chinese strategic nuclear forces that can reach the US mainland as well as Chinese medium ranged ballistic missile forces, air forces and bases, naval forces and bases as well as doing enough damage to Chinese infrastructure to set them back 40 years or more. Whether the US has the ability to do this with conventional forces alone seems doubtful…

    I know it sounds like madness (and it is) but look at the cards showing on the table. The Chinese are on the verge of “winning the game”. The path above is the only possible one that does not end in China becoming the dominant world power…and they are a very ethnocentric people/nation. This is simply unacceptable for our rulers and they are going to opt to flip the table over and just shoot it out as their best last hope and maintaining their power.

    • Agree: JasonT
    • Replies: @botazefa
  34. nebulafox says:

    But tell me this: why should we convert the Chinese to our way of life? At the end of the day, despite all the Chinese machinations in our politics, they lack the ideological desire of a Soviet Union to see worldwide revolution: if anything, they are openly counter-revolutionary and desire a Westphalilan system. They just see an opening right now with America so clearly in domestic disarray to assert Chinese power over what is clearly becoming the ashes of the post-Cold War order. I’m not going to blame them for taking it, even if I also believe that Beijing is overreaching, and will get burnt by the backlash in the end.

    They have a system that works quite well for them, and one that hardly resembles anything out of Marx and Engels, for what it is worth: if anything, today’s China is what Chiang Kai-Shek wanted, a nationalist, authoritarian, Hamiltonian state with moderately socially conservative tendencies. Mao Zedong was just another dynasty founder, as he himself told the Old Man, who Mr. Buchanan will immediately recognize as the real one, not the actor. Once upon a time, he played a weaker China off against a stronger Russia, to America’s long-term geopolitical benefit. I suspect he’d advocate doing the reverse these days, and 20 years ago when it was already clear that China was going to be far stronger than Russia going forward, that would have been easy to do while still preserving reasonable relations with Beijing. But however much Putin privately distrusts China’s long-term intentions and power: how do you think he views the US after the last decade or two? We can’t just erase memories overnight.

    Now, in 2020: I don’t think many people in the Beltway appreciate how much America’s credit has been utterly, totally shot over the last couple of decades, with the government’s handling of this pandemic being the latest blow. I think Buchanan is better than most, but he still doesn’t draw the logical conclusion that our resources dictate a focus on survival and reform over the coming decade. Yes, a lot of Asian countries don’t trust Beijing’s version of events any further than they can throw them. But what nobody can deny is that the Chinese at least proved they could *handle* the pandemic domestically. You are asking people to embrace… what? A country whose bipartisan, gerontocratic leadership seems utterly determined to imitate 1990s Russian oligarchs?

    The best thing that the US can do for long-term foreign policy interests is to clean house in the Beltway, immediately castrate Wall Street and Silicon Valley, and completely reject the last few decades of self-destructive policy, before we end up going the way of the Qing. You want other countries to imitate you, you have to be something worth imitating. This is not 1941. This is not 1946, or even 1994. America is no longer a confident, unified polity. Our credit is busted. Our structures are in ruins. Our society is increasingly neo-feudal and corrupt. The seeds for eventual national rebirth do not lie in a Cold War and a military budget that we cannot even afford, but in domestic overhaul. America’s at a point where drastic cultural changes can take place, for good or ill, in the next couple of decades with the old order so discredited. The right ones, we’ll be in the saddle. The wrong ones, and the consequences can be permanent.

    Hell, I’ll quote Deng Xiaoping: “We should do more, and talk less.” And who cares if a cat is black or white? The only important thing is that it catches mice? Same with policy: left wing, right wing, let whateverism be our banner.

  35. @Priss Factor

    It’s difficult to understand the news media and the ridiculous things they say if we think of it as being directed at ordinary “educated” (in the American sense of that term) citizens. Particularly things like cable news.

    Much of this “political coverage” is clearly produced for the people who work in DC and it is designed to fit in with the HIVE MIND that exists there.

    Buchanan plays the role of a Smithsonian DINOSAUR for that crowd. His outreach among the broader public since the 90s campaigns and his book publications and stint on MSNBC has declined to miniscule proportions.

    He’s right that China would not remotely be what it is today if the US did not involve itself in building China’s economic power. Gang of Four trials were 40 years ago. China has made amazing progress in 100 years but it started at an incredibly low level of civilization.

  36. @Priss Factor

    That magic dirt piece of shit misses the natal part of Nation.
    It is a totally godless piece of trash dirt.
    With fat staines.

  37. @anonymous

    Pretty sure this is Pat’s rhetorical device: Feign he’s sympathetic to the Neocon/Imperialist side, and raise all the dilemmas and contradictions they would encounter….. with no solution. Unfortunately, this would be lost on the average American voter.

  38. T. Weed says:
    @Realist

    Maybe not, but Unz’ suspicions are well-founded.

    • Replies: @Realist
  39. anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:

    Regarding a cold war with China one needs to know what it is that we have that they are trying to take away? There are disputes between them and Vietnam, Malaysia, etc but what does that mean to us? Are we their errand boys or protectors? Nobody is going to fight on behalf of Indonesia or those other countries. China has developed economically and are now the workshop of the world. They make all our stuff now including pharmaceuticals. All our big box stores are piled high with things made there. We’re dependent on them so it would be best not to rock the boat. That’s just the reality of it. That the American system outsourced everything is shameful and totally our fault. Where would a cold war take us?

  40. botazefa says:
    @BobM11

    I know it sounds like madness (and it is) but look at the cards showing on the table. The Chinese are on the verge of “winning the game”. The path above is the only possible one that does not end in China becoming the dominant world power…and they are a very ethnocentric people/nation. This is simply unacceptable for our rulers and they are going to opt to flip the table over and just shoot it out as their best last hope and maintaining their power.

    I don’t think our US ‘rulers’ give a damn about the American people. Even if they were inclined toward American patriotism I son’t think there’s much of a cohesive American people anymore. We’re a multicultural dystopia.

    Why would our rulers direct the US military to attack China? Why would they care if China is a superpower? Probably they want China to be a superpower. They sure act like it – shipping all the jobs over there; mass media is China friendly; the re-invention of Russia as an adversary.

    There will be no war with China. China already beat the US

    • Replies: @BobM11
  41. Escher says:
    @DB Cooper

    Wasn’t Tibet annexed by Mao in 1959 or so?
    Wouldn’t be much of a China India border without that illegal act.

    • Troll: thetruth
    • Replies: @DB Cooper
    , @d dan
    , @DB Cooper
  42. Escher says:
    @anon

    Most small town Americans are decent and helpful folk. They have been shafted badly by the elites, with their livelihoods destroyed by offshoring, to be replaced by meth labs and the tender mercies of Purdue pharma.

  43. DB Cooper says:
    @Escher

    If you want to lie at least keep your timeline straight. The PLA sent in the army to China’s Tibet in 1951 to prevent it from being carved up because the British/US was at the time trying to foment a color revolution. 1959 is when the CIA asset Tenzin Gyatso (aka the 14th Dalai Lama) fled to India. Today a large portion of the Tibetan exiles in India are regreting of ever going to India but they are struck there. Many have returned if they can. The paranoid Indian government are actually very suspicious of the Tibetan exiles in India because they see them as Chinese spies everywhere but on the surface the Indian government is still putting up a brave face of pretending to be speaking up on behalf of the Tibetans. A few years ago there was a huge protest of the Tibetans in exiled in Delhi because of India’s ransacking the home of the Karmapa and confiscating millions of dollars his worshippers gave to the Karmapa. The Karmapa himself have fled India after years of house arrest and is living abroad with a Dominican citizenship to the embarrassment of India. India is particularly sensitive to the issue of Karmapa because the tradition seat of the Black Hat Sect is in Gangtok Sikkim, an independent Himalayan kingdom which India invaded and annexed in 1975. This is why India never allow the Karmapa to go to Gangtok.

    No country has ever recognized Tibet’s independence. The only country that takes a slightly different stance is Britain which at one time switch from recognizing China’s sovereignty over Tibet to suzerainty because of Britian’s territorial ambition on Tibet when it has an empire in South Asia. At the end of 2008, a little over a decade after Britain returned Hong Kong back to China, Britain finally has no stake in Tibet and can afford to be honest for once. The British government put out a statement recognizing China’s sovereignty of Tibet (before it was suzerainty, not sovereignty) and in one fell swoop trashes whatever rationale India has on its claim on South Tibet (Arunachal Pradesh), however ridiculous and illegal it was to begin with. The statement, supported by both the conservative and labor parties, is remarkable in its honesty in conceding Britain did at one time has design on Tibet and is almost apologetic in tone. Here is an excerpt:​​
    ​​
    “…But our position is unusual for one reason of history that has been imported into the present: the anachronism of our formal position on whether Tibet is part of China, and whether in fact we harbour continued designs to see the break-up of China. We do not.​​
    Our ability to get our points across has sometimes been clouded by the position the UK took at the start of the 20th century on the status of Tibet, a position based on the geopolitics of the time. Our recognition of China’s “special position” in Tibet developed from the outdated concept of suzerainty. Some have used this to cast doubt on the aims we are pursuing and to claim that we are denying Chinese sovereignty over a large part of its own territory. We have made clear to the Chinese Government, and publicly, that we do not support Tibetan independence. Like every other EU member state, and the United States, we regard Tibet as part of the People’s Republic of China. “​​

    ​​
    https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200708/cmhansrd/cm081029/wmstext/81029m0001.htm​​

    There have been a sea change in the altitude of the Tibetans in exiled in India towards China and towards India over the years because unlike the days when China was closed off and nobody really knows whats going on there today Tibetans in exiled know (many who have acquired Western citizenship have returned and visit and know first hand what it is like and many actually felt disgusted at the Western propaganda) and India and Western propaganda don’t work anymore. Several years ago even one of the Dalai Lama close associates, a Rinpoche have returned to China permanently after a hip surgery in China. He never went back to India.

    Tibetans in exiled in India experienced first hand what it is like to live in India because of the constant racial slur (momos, chinkies) and getting beat up or killed by Indians just because of their looks is not news anymore. A couple years ago there were huge protest by the Tibetans in Delhi just for that. Tibetans in occupied South Tibet (so called Arunachal Pradesh) don’t have racial slurs problem because they are still the majority of the area but have a different problem because of the rampant rape by India rapists and the lawlessness and stage killings under the AFSPA. Unlike the exiled who went to India on their own volition they were the natives and have a history of fighting the British and the Indians. These two type of Tibetans will give India trouble in the long term, especially after the Dalai Lama bite the bullet. The northeasterners in general never want to be part of India anyway. This is why Bollywood is banned in Manipur and Assam and K-Pop is popular there.

    Now have a cup of cow piss and go fuck yourself you stupid filthy stinky rapey low IQ Hindoo dumb fuck. Just putting a flag won’t work anymore. The Tibetans hate you Indians. The Dalai Lama have said openly many times Indians are lazy. Who knows what His Holinness said behind closed doors.

    • Replies: @Escher
  44. thetruth says:
    @Divine Right

    Epoch time, Chinese name is 大纪元,owed by the Anti-China Cult Fa lun gong. Fa Lun Gong is Headquartered in upstate New York, not in HK.

    • Replies: @Divine Right
  45. thetruth says:
    @Buck Ransom

    do your own research, ONLY less than $600000 of that $3.7 million went to China’s Wu Han lab. The data is on NIH web side!

    and for that small amount of money, multiple U.S. research institutes., including DARPA, North Carolina P3/P4 lab, Fort Detrick before shut down and reopened, the CIA… etc., got >10000 Bat virus samples, and had been using the Wu Han lab to do their bio-weapon GoF research during the Fort Detrick shutting down!! That is a HECK of deal!!

    China was too stupid, and was taken advantaged of by the Evil Empire of the U.S.!!

    and here is from the other web site, according to Ted Cruz:

    “They said in fiscal year 2019, the funding for the Wuhan Institute [of] Virology was $76,301. Now, what did it go to? And I’m repeating what NIH has told me in writing … it was part of an overall $3.7 million funding program that went to six years in sites in China, Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia, and Myanmar.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/watch-latest-verdict-with-ted-cruz-takes-on-the-wuhan-coverup

  46. d dan says:
    @Escher

    “Wasn’t Tibet annexed by Mao in 1959 or so?”

    Second time in the day when I answer to idiotic “Tibet independence” clown.

    Hey Escher, talk is cheap. If you think Tibet should be “free”, why don’t you ask your government to recognize Tibet as a country. Better still, sponsor its UN membership.

    No? Not even a single country in the world recognize Tibet as a separate country. ZERO, NONE.

    So, live with it. Tibet has been part of China longer than the existence of countries called US or India.

    • Agree: Jaylonw
  47. DB Cooper says:
    @Escher


    Here are two pictures of future Indian rapists of Tibetan girls in India occupied South Tibet (so called Arunachal Pradesh). South Tibet was invaded and annexed by the shithole in 1951, three and a half years after their master the British has already left the subcontinent.

    • Replies: @Escher
  48. bluedog says:

    Poor old Pat he can’t get away from the Reagan scam,his trickle down program,his braying to the business sector “come to Washington and let show you how to move your business out of the country, and increase your profit” and then he created the off-shore accounts to protect that profit from the tax man.But there was more to come yet as the deficit head for the moon with full after burners on.Old Pat should retire and give it up for he’s living in la-la land and that’s not going to change.!!!!

  49. Realist says:
    @T. Weed

    Maybe not, but Unz’ suspicions are well-founded.

    How so?

  50. Derer says:

    This is about China-US relations but Pat Buchanan keeps wrongly bragging about the previous cold war “victory” over the Soviets.

    “Cold War like the one we waged to defeat the Soviet Empire and Soviet Union?”

    “Moreover, ethnic nationalism…never died in the captive nations of Europe and the USSR.”

    “Moscow-centered and Russian-controlled Soviet Empire and USSR that shattered after 1989.”

    What did we win, our defense budget against those “evil” Russians is crippling our economy with humongous debt – a military ordinary hammer costs $6000 in Russia only $1.30. A new born baby instantly owes $60000. Sadly, Russian military seems to be more modernized and superior to the US at much lower cost.

    Basically Russia god rid (ethnic nationalism) of numerous Muslim countries, but strangely they remain more loyal to Moscow than to Washington, despite subversion. On the other hand the American ethnic/racial antagonism is ruinous and beyond repair. Tell me, what are the spoils of the cold war victory over the Soviets?

  51. @thetruth

    Epoch time, Chinese name is 大纪元,owed by the Anti-China Cult Fa lun gong. Fa Lun Gong is Headquartered in upstate New York, not in HK.

    Like I said, “mysterious source of funding.”

    “According to NBC News, “little is publicly known about the precise ownership, origins or influences of The Epoch Times,” and it is loosely organized into several regional tax free non-profits, under the umbrella of the Epoch Media Group, together with New Tang Dynasty Television. … Tax documents of the Epoch Media Group indicated that between 2012 and 2016, the group received $900,000 from a principal at Renaissance Technologies, a hedge fund led by the conservative political donor Robert Mercer.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Epoch_Times

    The CIA is known for using third parties like this. They also have an office in HK … and in many other areas of influence.

  52. Jaylonw says:
    @Exile

    That makes them best qualified to be world’s number 1, as they have no desires for being world police or kick ass all the time.

  53. songbird says:

    China is more of an ethno-nationalist state with Han Chinese constituting 1 billion of China’s 1.4 billion people.

    I thought the percentage of Han was higher. Wikipedia gives 92% for mainland China. Seems believable to me with the proviso that some Han have a touch of ethnic exoticism and might not be 100% digested on a genetic level, but are still culturally Han.

    • Agree: Blinky Bill
  54. But both parties colluded in the buildup of China as she vaulted over Italy, France, Britain, Germany and Japan to become the world’s second power in the 21st century.

    Wow, that’s being incredibly generous to all the countries named. In terms of hard power, China’s been ahead of them since they “contained” the US adventure on the Korean Peninsula.

    From 1949-1989, a NATO alliance backed by 300,000 U.S. troops in Europe “contained” the Soviet Union. No Soviet ruler attempted to cross the dividing line laid down at Yalta in 1945. Nor did we cross it.

    An equally plausible way to look at it is that the Sovs abided by their agreements, as they had in Korea, and held on to Eastern Europe as a buffer zone to prevent further Western Aggressions against Mother Russia. They probably never had any interest to overrun Western Europe, and figured Western decadence would usher in socialism in the West. With the benefit of hindsight, especially now, they would have been right.

  55. @Anonymous,

    The USA will exist in its present form right until the states of California, New York, and other minor players are bailed out. There are some stats that suggest these Blue States have until recently been net tax contributors, but weather or not that was true in good times, it ain’t going to look that way to Red State America, especially now, when they are already making big sacrifices. Newsome and Cuomo have pointed a loaded gun at the USA, and Pelosi and Schumer are urging them to pull the trigger.

  56. BobM11 says:
    @botazefa

    @botazefa

    China’s supplanting the US as the global dominant power is simply unacceptable to the people that rule over us because:

    Han Chinese are a very ethnocentric people. They have maintained a cohesive “Chinese” culture for thousands of years. They also have a strong entrepreneurial spirit. You can find Chinese owned/run businesses anywhere you can find Han Chinese.

    Our (((globalist elites))) that rule over us, have ran their experiment to see if they could penetrate and subvert Chinese institutions and culture (as they have done across the West) and it has failed.

    (((They))) did manage to draw China into the global financial and trade system, but rather than this leading to the subversion (conquest) of China by the (((globalist elites))), it has led to China’s rise to the cusp of global superpower status. The Chinese are on a trajectory to “win” by essentially taking over the financial/trade system. A Chinese dominated system is going to be a lot less favorable towards (((them))).

    The last shift of global superpowers back in 1944 saw the US supplant the UK (the $ supplanted the British pound). In that instance, it was not a problem for the (((globalist elites))) because their level of influence in the US was no less than that in the UK. In this case, when the Chinese supplant the US, (((they))) will lose control of global finance, which has been the source of their power going back centuries. Such a transformation would be akin to the fall of Rome in historical context.

    So, with these cards showing on the table, what other options are there for these (((globalist elites)))? Their entire empire will collapse if they lose control over the global financial system. Without it, even their Jewish colony in Palestine will become completely untenable. We are talking about a people who have engineered numerous wars, including two world wars, to build this empire. Why would anyone think that they would shrink from another to maintain it?

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  57. Escher says:
    @DB Cooper

    Lol. I’m not Indian. And what’s with the unhinges name calling at the end.
    Contlor your invective, erse youl BP velly velly high, and need to dlink bat soup to get bettel.

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
  58. Escher says:
    @DB Cooper

    India is a shithole.
    What that has to do with China bullying and annexing culturally incompatible lands like Tibet and East Turkestan (what you call Xinjiang) and intimidating the peaceful Taiwanese is beyond me.

  59. DB Cooper says:
    @Escher

    Taiwan regards Tibet and Xinjiang part of Republic of China dumb ass. In fact when the shithole make occupied South Tibet a state and renamed it to the so called Arunachal Pradesh in 1987 Taiwan puts out a statement condemning the shithole’s travesty. Read my earlier post moron. What makes your think I am from mainland China?

  60. DB Cooper says:
    @Escher

    I can tell you had Taiwan not lost the civil war and still running mainland China South Tibet would not have been invaded and annexed by the shithole India. The northeast of India including South Tibet are totally culturally incompatible with India and the people there never wants to be part of India. Bollywood is banned there while K Pop is popular. Why don’t you complain about it? Who gives you the self righteousness to judge? Are you a fucking Christian? Just because you read the bible and go to Church doesn’t make you holy you understand?

  61. DB Cooper says:
    @Escher

    Let me be clear so your dumb skull won’t misunderstand as far as I am concerned Taiwan should take back mainland China and reclaim the land the CCP lost including South Tibet.

    And Chinese people don’t religiously or ethnically oppressed, its never part of the cultural DNA. You people do because you people are weird. Its got to do with Christainity. Whenever you have a god is great my god is bigger than your god religion nothing good will come out of it.

    Free South Tibet from the Indian rapists.

  62. DB Cooper says:
    @Escher

    I am not from mainland China, dumb ass.

    • Replies: @Escher
  63. @BobM11

    Great comment.

    “Why would anyone think that they would shrink from another to maintain it?”

    As I see it, a majority of “the people” don’t understand the Satanically evil nature of the creatures that rule the corrupt “West.” IOW our rulers operate at such a level of depravity and deception that the average person’s mind simply cannot go there. They cannot in their wildest dreams imagine that “their” “government” would unleash an indiscriminate biological weapon on the world in an effort to stop China’s rise to great power status, no matter what the risks and no matter how many innocent people (even “their own” people) they have to kill to do it.

    • Agree: bluedog
  64. Anonymous[798] • Disclaimer says:
    @Exile

    The Han lack the necessary traits, including philosophical depth, spirituality, aesthetics or Will to Power in the European sense, as well as the basic social skills to aspire to that sort of empire, much less actualize it

    If I may hazard a guess, I would conjecture that you have been around the rather mercantile Overseas Han, the overwhelmingly Cantonese emigrants widely regarded by the Chinese as the least intelligent and culturally crudest of all people? (As in they define “low-class” among the Chinese; btw, Hong Kong is Cantonese. Maybe they feel both better, and yet much less, than Mainlanders? Jung and Freud would have field days with the Hong Kong residents.)

    That’s like judging the potential of the American people by the impressions gotten from the most white trashy inhabitants of the Appalachian mountains, simply because you never encountered any other kind.

    I’ve lived in China, and I couldn’t even recognize any of these traits (actually stereotypes) you listed.

  65. vox4non says:
    @Escher

    Such a disappointment to read an adult resorting to such childish mocking, but hardly surprising from bigots.

    Do you speak any other language apart from English? Are your other language skills up to par?

  66. Tomsen says:

    If you cant beat them, join them. Join China and when the right time comes………………….back to where we started.

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