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“What is America’s mission?” is a question that has been debated since George Washington’s Farewell Address in 1797.

At last week’s Munich Security Conference, President Joe Biden laid out his vision as to what is America’s mission. And the contrast with the mission enunciated by George W. Bush in his second inaugural could not have been more defining or dramatic.

Here is Bush, Jan. 20, 2005:

“From the day of our Founding, we have proclaimed that every man and woman on this earth has rights, and dignity, and matchless value, because they bear the image of the Maker of Heaven and earth…

“Advancing these ideals is the mission that created our Nation… Now it is… the calling of our time.”

“So it is the policy of the United States to seek and support the growth of democratic movements and institutions in every nation and culture, with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world.”

America’s mission is “ending tyranny in our world,” said Bush.

Biden’s declared mission is far less ambitious.

“We are in the midst of a fundamental debate about the future and direction of our world. We’re at an inflection point between those who argue that… autocracy is the best way forward… and those who understand that democracy is essential.”

“Historians are going to… write about this moment as an inflection point… And I believe that — every ounce of my being — that democracy will and must prevail. We must demonstrate that democracies can still deliver for our people in this changed world.

“That, in my view, is our galvanizing mission.

“Democracy doesn’t happen by accident. We have to defend it, fight for it, strengthen it, renew it. We have to prove that our model isn’t a relic of our history.”

So, we have to “demonstrate that democracies can still deliver for our people,” and prove that our democracy is not “a relic”? Nothing here about the worldwide triumph of freedom or “ending tyranny in our world.”

Intending no disrespect, this is scarcely “galvanizing,” like, say, JFK’s inaugural:

“Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.

“This much we pledge — and more.”

In his Munich speech, Biden reassured Moscow and Beijing that the last thing we want is a new Cold War like the one that ended in America’s victory over communism, the Soviet Empire and the USSR.

Said Biden: Our mission is “not about pitting East against West. It’s not about we want a conflict. We want a future where all nations are able to freely determine their own path without a threat of violence or coercion. We cannot and must not return to the… rigid blocs of the Cold War. Competition must not lock out cooperation on issues that affect us all.”

Biden seems to be calling for “peaceful existence” between the democracies and the autocrats, and detente with both a Russia ruled by Vladimir Putin and a China ruled by Communist Party chair Xi Jinping.

Truth be told, Biden’s words are more in tune with the country today than are JFK’s (which led straight to Vietnam), or Bush 43’s neocon reveries, which vanished in the sands of Iraq.

Biden’s remarks also reveal the dichotomy that exists between what is on the minds of his countrymen, and what is on the minds of so many among our foreign policy elites.

ORDER IT NOW

Our Beltway elites want to “stand up” to Putin for Crimea and for prosecuting dissident Alexei Navalny. They want to stand up to autocrat Alexander Lukashenko for his fraudulent reelection. They want to stand up to China for its crackdown on Hong Kong and barbarous treatment of the Uighurs.

They want the U.S. to lead a global campaign to force the Burmese generals to surrender power, which they just seized from the civilian leadership.

What are the American people, most of whom could probably not find Belarus or Burma on a map, most concerned about?

The half a million Americans dead in the COVID-19 pandemic. That so many of the schools have failed to reopen and the kids are locked up at home. They know about the economic consequences of sheltering in place. They know about delays in the distribution of vaccines.

They remember the long hot summer of riot and race hatred that followed the death of George Floyd. Everyone has an opinion on Donald Trump’s challenge of the election results, and the mob invasion of the Capitol is burned into the national consciousness.

They are aware of the crisis on the Southern border now that Biden has put out the welcome mat. And everyone knows about the loss of heat, light, power and water in Texas from the worst winter storm in decades.

About new crusades for democracy, Americans don’t care much.

They do care, deeply, about what is happening to their own country.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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  1. Biff says:

    Democracy doesn’t happen by accident.

    Is that way the last election was such a blatant fraud?

    Our Beltway elites want to “stand up” to Putin for Crimea and for prosecuting dissident Alexei Navalny. They want to stand up to autocrat Alexander Lukashenko for his fraudulent reelection. They want to stand up to China for its crackdown on Hong Kong and barbarous treatment of the Uighurs.

    Our Beltway is full hypocrisy, double standards, truth inversions, fake news, and straight up propaganda.

    They want the U.S. to lead a global campaign to force the Burmese generals to surrender power, which they just seized from the civilian leadership.

    If those generals were building roads for American mining companies they would be just fine and dandy(just like in Honduras).

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  2. most of whom could probably not find Belarus or Burma on a map

    Easy peasy. They’re next to White Russia and Myanmar, respectively.

    • LOL: Alfa158
    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
  3. anonymous[233] • Disclaimer says:

    The American military has limited capacity. It can not provide security for Israel if it is also stretched thin by naval confrontation near Taiwan and deployments in the Baltics against Russia. Washington foreign policy elites who support Israel should see this Biden speech as eminently sensible.

  4. “New crusades for democracy” will lead the US, and the rest of mankind, to world war. Governments are blind to the pattern of history. Wars are fought over interests – Armageddon is in no one’s.
    https://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/

    • Replies: @SMK
  5. anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:

    Neither Bush nor Biden wrote those speeches. They were written by professional speechwriters and read by those two dolts who probably had no clue as to what it all meant, just that it all sounded so highfalutin n’ stuff. None of it bears any resemblance to reality. Look at the Biden lineup of interventionists and weep. The issues they are rolling out are just pretexts for aggressive action abroad. Americans care about what is happening to their country as internal polarization heats up, employment drops, infrastructure crumbles and so on. But this isn’t what they’ll get since the Biden team and their allies are the ones responsible for this internal downslide. Sort of like having an arsonist run the fire department.

  6. Emslander says:

    Biden can’t defend democracy in the world if a casual examination of his own election raises so many questions of non-transparency and legitimacy.

    Let’s become a mature people and see how that works for a while.

  7. El Dato says:

    Our Beltway elites want to “stand up” to Putin for Crimea and for prosecuting dissident Alexei Navalny. They want to stand up to autocrat Alexander Lukashenko for his fraudulent reelection. They want to stand up to China for its crackdown on Hong Kong and barbarous treatment of the Uighurs.

    Really! Why is Assange getting up much worse than Navalny?

    – Nobody cares about Crimea except as a means to soften up Russia.
    – Nobody cares about Navalny except as a means to soften up Russia. I would go so far as to say the West got him poisoned to have a nice narrative to get some got old “dissident” as pawn.
    – Nobody cares Lukash’s autocracy except as a means to soften up Russia.

    Why soften up Russia? For the nice eyes of goddess Democracy?

    Nope. To be able to connect its resource to the Globalist Bork and remove a military threat.

    – Do people care about Hong-Kong?
    – Do people care about Uighurs?

    Really!

    • Agree: Bro43rd, dfordoom
  8. KenH says:

    Biden doesn’t mean a word of it. This is just like how the Soviet Union claimed to be the bedrock of democracy while they were throwing people in gulags by the millions or just murdering them.

    If Biden was serious then he would rescind most sanctions on Russia and Iran instead of pursuing a policy of brinkmanship which the USA is doing at the behest of “our greatest ally” Israel.

    • Replies: @(((They))) Live
  9. America does not, or certainly should not “Have a mission” in the sense used.

    Americans may individually or collectively have any goals, purposes or aims they want to have and “America’s” only mission is to be the free and constitutionally governed place in which those purposes can be aimed at.

    America has no interest in how Ukraine, Russia, Burma or anywhere else is governed.

    • Agree: Emslander, El Dato
  10. Biden’s presidency is no more legitimate than the current leadership of Belarus or Burma.

    • Agree: Old Prude
  11. We want a future where all nations are able to freely determine their own path without a threat of violence or coercion.

    If Biden really meant this he would take steps to disband the CIA and declare Mossad terrorists.

  12. A123 says:

    Trump kicked the NeoCons out of the GOP. They returned to their traditional home in the DNC as NeoConDemocrats. These NeoCons are now pushing Biden to expand existing foreign wars. (1)

    On Wednesday, the day Biden was inaugurated, the Syrian government sent him a message imploring him to withdraw American forces from the country. 24 hours later i24 News reported that a convoy of about 40 trucks and armored vehicles “entered northeastern Syria” on Thursday supported by helicopters. The convoy entered the country from Iraq via the al-Waleed crossing “to bring arms and logistical equipment to bases in Hasakeh and Deir Ezzor provinces,” i23 News stated. And while “other local media” noted that such resupply convoys are not uncommon, SANA’s report added that an additional 200 U.S. troops were choppered into the Hasakeh province as well.

    After the NeoCons get their build-ups in Syria & Afghanistan, what new foreign wars will they start? Given the bribes Ukraine has paid the Biden family via Burisma, no one should be surprised when Biden deploys U.S. troops to help Ukraine “Rescue Crimea”. Biden may even be stupid enough to put boots on the ground in Iran.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.sgtreport.com/2021/01/24-hours-after-joe-biden-sworn-in-as-president-the-swamp-orders-us-troops-back-into-syria-with-convoy-of-40-trucks-armored-vehicles-and-helicopters-flying-overhead/

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  13. Realist says:

    Biden controls nothing. He has enough on his plate trying to control his bowels…he is brain dead. Trump chose to be a minion of the Deep State…Biden doesn’t know he is a sock puppet of the Deep State.

  14. @anonymous

    It is very rare that I am in complete agreement with an anonymous, but you are an exception. Biden’s words are precisely that – just words, and written by a group of speechwriters. He was probably using an autocue as well, like his old boss, Barry Obama.

    By their actions you will judge them, and the Biden regime shows no sign of supporting their words. On the contrary. Troops have been moved forward in Syria and, domestically, work is continuing on “domestic terrorism” legislation. Dissidents like Ricky Vaughn and others have been arrested and charged.
    The outlook is gloomy.

  15. @El Dato

    Excellent post, Senor Dato. I am pleased you have capitalised Global Bork too.
    Robert Bork provided the legal and intellectual justification for the non-enforcement of anti-trust laws, which resulted in the present state of oligopoly and oligarchs. It is only right that his infamy is commemorated.

  16. America’s mission is “ending tyranny in our world,” said Bush.

    Biden’s declared mission is far less ambitious.

    The mission of the Biden administration is identical to that of the Bushes’ administrations, i.e. to more fully implement Ruling Class tyranny globally. (Biden himself is incapable of any more strategic decision than between rice pudding and tapioca for lunch.)

    As a side note, someone needs to do a welfare check on Pat. I’ve been a long time fan of his, but based on this essay, it seems his cognitive capabilities have deteriorated alarmingly.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  17. Franz says:

    “Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty…”

    British historian Paul Johnson called this Kennedy quote “A blank check hurled at the feet of the world” and I’ve always thought Johnson was right.

    Effectively Kennedy was saying if the commies/terrorists/whatever are coming at you, anywhere in the world, the USA is your Always-Free-Triple-A-Cavalry to call. No ceiling, no time limit. Even in a highfalutin speech you don’t make freebies that big available on a permanent basis.

    Kennedy said this in 1961 in a relatively prosperous USA. After 6 decades, if Biden is the one to cancel the check, no complaints. If.

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  18. Poland should have its regime toppled.

    • LOL: Verymuchalive
    • Troll: beavertales
  19. Well?
    All I can say: We will see……..Did say the blind man.

  20. Phibbs says:

    What “democracy”? Washington D.C. is under Jewish/Israeli occupation.

  21. Chinaman says:

    crackdown on Hong Kong and barbarous treatment of the Uighurs.

    You mean the crackdown like the Capitol Hill Massacre? And the barbarous treatment of George Floyd?

  22. TG says:

    “About new crusades for democracy, Americans don’t care much.”

    Sure, but so what?

  23. El Dato says:

    Scott Ritter talking about nuclear war Europe becoming a possibility as aimless bureaucrats, NATO pushers and borderland inhabitants who think that living under a NATO umbrella is appealing behave dangerously.

    How Polish wargame where it loses to Russia could become a self-fulfilling prophecy

    The ‘Winter-20’ war game represents the kind of self-fulfilling prophecy that history often records after the fact, when it is too late for nations to change events on the ground. By portraying the Russian Army as little more than a modern-day version of Hitler’s Wehrmacht, ready to ravage a Poland helpless to stop it, the Poles are setting an artificial standard that serves to drive a NATO response.

    For its part, NATO has taken the bait, pouring troops and material into the Polish-Baltic region in numbers that eventually will constitute a viable offensive military capability. When this evolving military situation is juxtaposed with NATO’s aggressive posture regarding the internal domestic affairs of Belarus, and the possibility of Ukraine becoming a NATO member [0 chance of that, it will simply cease to exist], the result is a military threat Russia cannot ignore.

    Russia has carried out massive military maneuvers in its western military district in the past years. All are predicated on a response to NATO aggression, either against Kaliningrad or Belarus. All involve the delivery of a massive counterstrike designed to drive the NATO invaders out of Russian territory, or the territory of its allies. These counterstrikes involve deep attacks — the kind that will envelope enemy formations and seize large swaths of territory.

    The fact is, as things stand, the results of the ‘Winter-20’ exercise represent the true situation — in the case of a large ground war in the Polish-Baltic region, Russia would completely destroy forward deployed NATO units, and reach the Vistula River within five days. The only way NATO would be able to halt the Russians would be through the employment of nuclear weapons, such as the low-yield warhead carried by the US submarine-launched ballistic missiles. If NATO were to do this, Russia would most likely respond with a massive nuclear attack against the US and NATO. This sobering outcome should be pondered by those in the Polish General Staff who are helping shape events that, if left unchecked, could very well result in the end of man’s tenure on earth.

  24. @KenH

    I agree, the regime will talk peace, but they need want war with Iran, I doubt its the Nuclear program that worries them, its the Iranian missile program + support for Assad and Hezbollah that is pissing (((them))) off so much, but the problem is they need Iran to start the war. who knows what scam they will pull to make the US public want to destroy Iran

  25. SafeNow says:

    The U.S. ranked a lowly 25th in The Economist’s “Democracy Index” released about a month ago. The US is hardly in a position to hold itself out as a democracy role model or to promulgate democracy, and Biden’s State Department knows it. This would be like Cuomo holding himself out as an expert in nursing-home safety,

  26. Sparkon says:
    @Franz

    Effectively Kennedy was saying…

    There is no need to translate Jack Kennedy’s entirely clear English into your mangled and reheated version of it.

    I do think John F. Kennedy was a Cold Warrior when he took office, at least publicly, but he began to change his tune in the aftermath of the Bay of Pigs fiasco in 1961. Pres. Kennedy seems to have established some rapport or at least a modus vivendi with Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev during and after the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962, and may have arranged some back-channel diplomacy with Castro himself.

    Enter beautiful American journalist Lisa Howard.

    Lisa Howard

    In April 1963 Howard arrived in Cuba to make a documentary on the country. In an interview with Howard, Castro agreed that a rapprochement with Washington was desirable. On her return Howard met with the Central Intelligence Agency. Deputy Director Richard Helms reported to John F. Kennedy on Howard’s view that “Fidel Castro is looking for a way to reach a rapprochement with the United States.” After detailing her observations about Castro’s political power, disagreements with his colleagues and Soviet troops in Cuba, the memo concluded that “Howard definitely wants to impress the U.S. Government with two facts: Castro is ready to discuss rapprochement and she herself is ready to discuss it with him if asked to do so by the US Government.”

    [my bold]

    By June of 1963, the United States and the Soviet Union had agreed to set up “hot line” direct communications between Washington and Moscow, and on August 5, 1963, Kennedy and Khrushchev signed the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty.

    In October 1963, Pres. Kennedy issued NSAM 263, accepting the advice of his Secretary of Defense and Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff to withdraw all U.S. Forces from Vietnam by the end of 1965, with the first 1,000 pulling out before the end of 1963.

    In Nov. 1963, Sec. Def. McNamara gave a speech at the Waldorf Hotel in NYC where he reduced by half estimates of Soviet forces facing NATO in Europe, and outlined plans to reduce U.S. defense spending.

    In Dec. 1963, the Soviet Union announced a 4% reduction in defense spending, but by then of course, President Kennedy was dead.

    On July 4, 1965, so was Lisa Howard, reportedly after taking one hundred phenobarbitols.

    • Thanks: SafeNow, Marshal Marlow
    • Replies: @Resartus
    , @Franz
  27. The Biden presidency will be Obama 2.0.

    With the media covering for him, the hollow suit will read from a non-offensive script. No negative stories about the Biden’s allowed, and no negativity from the White House allowed.

    Behind the façade, the neocons in charge will be doing what neocons do.

    • Agree: Johnny Smoggins
  28. @Wade Hampton

    As I’ve been saying previously, Pat’s articles now are nowhere near the standard of 10 years ago. I admired Pat for his political efforts from the 1990s onwards, but some of the recent articles are at odds with what he was saying even 5 years ago.
    Many ageing columnists have employed aides or ghostwriters to write most or all of their columns, most notoriously George Will, who is several years younger than Pat. I suspect that this is now the case with Pat. The Paul Craig Roberts of this world are few and far between, and Pat, sadly, is not one of them. I hope Pat retires quickly and gracefully.

    • Agree: Bill Jones
    • Replies: @SafeNow
  29. SafeNow says:
    @Verymuchalive

    I see your point about oldster columnists, but they do not need to cement every brick and cornice into place themselves. In many professions, the oldster provides much-needed historical perspective and judgment, while leaving the implementing details to a younger person. Of course, the subordinate must be meritorious; finding this subordinate can be challenging, and hiring him, expensive.

  30. Resartus says:
    @Sparkon

    I do think John F. Kennedy was a Cold Warrior when he took office, at least publicly, but he began to change his tune in the aftermath of the Bay of Pigs fiasco in 1961.

    After he botched a fairly decent operation by changing it at the last moment….
    I would say the Military didn’t have his back, even with him being a Navy guy…..

    • Troll: Mulga Mumblebrain
    • Replies: @Sparkon
  31. SMK says: • Website
    @peter mcloughlin

    Biden’s “mission” (actually the “mission” of his anti-white radical leftist puppeteers) is to “rip out systemic racism by its roots” and declare war on and abolish “white supremacy” and “domestic terrorism,” the “domestic terrorism” of “racists” and “white supremacists,” not BLM and Antifa, which the left and Biden and Harris support.

  32. For Paddy to talk about Resident Biden’s belief

    “And I believe that — every ounce of my being — that democracy will and must prevail”

    Without mentioning that it clearly did not is yet more proof that it’s time for him to retire.

  33. Renoman says:

    I hope he means it but he sure is surrounded by an evil gang of freaks. Either way it’s what Israel says.

  34. @anonymous

    Just FYI, pat doesn’t write these articles either.

    Don’t read too much into it.

    • Replies: @Marshal Marlow
  35. Pat Buchanan is now a babbling hack.
    America has a faux President who babbles about systemic racism and the UN’s Gutteres just joined the anti-White hate fest. We are now staring down a double barrel Jewish shotgun as the oligarchs use their bootlicking shabbos to tell EUROPEAN and Euromericans that they are in season. Expect show trials, FBI ‘stings’ and Operation Gladio-style attacks as the War of Terror morphs into a War on Whites.
    But somehow none of this matters because America isn’t in charge anymore?
    Earth to Pat, it is no longer 2004. We are in dire straits: failing infrastructure (Texas is cold Pat), massive debt levels, 1st Amendment gutted due to complete Jewish ownership of the Bullhorn and a government beholden to Big Jew (Wall St.-FIRE, Pharma, etc) and Big Satan (MIC, Pentagon-DIA).
    Oh, don’t forget Pat, small and medium business was wiped out by Con-job 19 and the oligarchs just did a huge wealth transfer-trillion dollar theft. I care not of a Burmese coup given that the U.S. coup can only be spoken of in hushed voices for fear of Jewish assassination squads.
    New meds Pat. Or stop smoking Hopium. Really.

  36. @Reg Cæsar

    I thought Myanmar is Burma.

    Or is it next to Julie Newmar?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  37. Yee says:

    Wish the Yankees were enthusiastic about spreading advance technologies instead of ideologies…

    Crusades for Christianity and democracy hasn’t done much good for the rest of the world, unlike the spread of technology.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  38. @Paperback Writer

    Or is it next to Julie Newmar?

    Still kicking at 87!

    And a centimillionairess. Who took Steve’s leaf blower away.

    https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/actors/julie-newmar-net-worth/

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
  39. @Yee

    Wish the Yankees were enthusiastic about spreading advance technologies instead of ideologies…

    Crusades for Christianity and democracy hasn’t done much good for the rest of the world, unlike the spread of technology.

    What good has our “spread of technology” done for the rest of the world? John Derbyshire is right that only Anglo-Saxons (and some close kin) can do democracy, but Christianity is more universal than computer science.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  40. @Astuteobservor II

    If that’s correct then I think its wrong for Ron Unz to publish it without a qualifier. Something like: “Written by an anonymous person and unequivocally endorsed by Pat Buchanan”.

  41. Sparkon says:
    @Resartus

    Fairly decent operation you say? The Bay of Pigs was in a swamp. You could hardly pick a worse location for what was planned, with a distant objectives in the mountains through sparsely populated land worked by intense Castro loyalists. Too make matters worse, word of the invasion had leaked out well beforehand because of loose lips at the CIA.

    JFK was more or less railroaded into approving the operation because the CIA had been hyping it to the Cuban exiles, but Pres. Kennedy refused to let the ill-fated invasion force him into deploying the Marines.

    The Bay of Pigs was in the Zapata Swamp, a wetland on Cuba’s south coast. There was no significant town closer than Cienfuegos, forty miles away along circuitous roads through dense jungle. The Sierra del Escambray was farther yet, its foothills rising at least ten miles beyond Cienfuegos. Amid the Zapata vegetation, crocodiles and snakes flourished, but humans did not. Those few who lived there worked in the small-scale production of charcoal. The revolutionary government had built roads, provided education, and raised the standard of living of the peasantry. Fidel and Raúl had built personal followings in the Zapata area, each visiting many times. Fidel had even spent Christmas Eve there with local families in 1959.

    Within the CIA, there was concern about the refocusing of the operation at the Bay of Pigs. Jake Esterline studied the area on a map. “I thought to myself, it does look very secure,” he remembered, “no one is going to get in there very easily but how are we going to get any more recruits, how are we going to expand this front because there is nobody there except alligators and ducks.” At the beginning of April, David Atlee Phillips entered the war room to see on the map a large red cross over Trinidad, and new markings aimed at the Bay of Pigs. “I thought I was victim of an April Fool trick of the meanest kind,” he said. The new location, he argued, was too far from the Sierra del Escambray, and the swamp too perilous.
    […]
    Later, Bissell would admit that little thought had been given to how invaders might operate in the swamp, as opposed to the mountains for which they had been trained.

    More like a fairly indecent operation, I’d say.

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  42. Biden hired as asst. health secretary a man who dresses as a woman and think it’s ok to give children drugs to halt puberty. And that’s just one of his “problematic” hires. We are so beyond fucked, I just wonder how many people actually realize it yet.

  43. Daniel H says:

    So, it looks like the Democrats are willing to do the job that Republicans just couldn’t do: stay out of wars.

    Face it friends, the Republicans are losers. The sooner they disappear the better.

  44. @El Dato

    Navalny was poisoned? That’s news to me. The doctors who treated him in Russia had tests done. No sign of a nerve poison but blood sugar 4 times normal. Diabetics should manage their medication and diet with care.

    Navalny is unstable so that’s hard for him. Multiple medical problems make life difficult. That explains a suspended sentence for fraud and his idiocy in not returning from Germany after he no longer needed treatment. That meant he violated his parole conditions and was liable to serve his suspended sentence. [email protected]

  45. Yee says:

    Reg Cæsar,

    Technology improve quality of living, Christianity and democracy brought crusades not peace.

    The West should keep their Christianity and democracy to themselves, give us technology instead.

  46. Sparkon says:
    @Sparkon

    I neglected to leave a source link for the paragraphs I quoted:

    One of the Most Ridiculous Things That Has Ever Occurred in the History of the United States, excerpt from Red Heat by Alex von Tunzelmann at Hazlitt describes the breathtaking adventures of the invaders at the Bay of Pigs:

    It was around midnight when three Cuban militia groups, at Playa Girón, Playa Larga, and Punta Perdiz, each noticed lights out to sea. Seven ships were approaching. The map on which Esterline and Hawkins had replanned the operation had not indicated coral reefs, and analysts had concluded that the shadows on aerial photographs were clouds or seaweed. But beneath the smooth, dark sea, coral reefs there were. The first landing craft ran aground on them, eighty yards offshore. One of its red marker lights accidentally started flashing. As the men onboard climbed out and waded toward the beach, a Cuban jeep drove up to meet them. Alerted by the red light, the local militia thought it was dealing with a lost fishing boat, and had come to warn it to avoid the reefs. As it turned to park, the jeep’s headlamps illuminated the school of frogmen approaching the soft white sand. The leader of the invading group, the CIA’s David Gray, opened fire. For all Kennedy’s emphasis on plausible deniability, the first man to engage Castro’s troops at the Bay of Pigs was an American.

    The first wave of Brigade 2506 began to make its way inland. Meanwhile, one of the ships, the Houston, was sunk by one of Fidel’s jets just inside the bay. This rendered an entire battalion useless, along with its cargo—which, according to Cuban reports, included food and drinking water, gasoline, light arms ammunition, explosives, and one and a half tons of white phosphorus. Many of its 130 men seemed to be paralyzed with shock. A CIA officer paddled up to the Houston in a dinghy, shouting, “Get off, you bastards, it’s your fucking war!” Soon afterward, the Cuban air force also sank the Rio Escondido, a freighter that carried most of the invaders’ fuel and all of their signaling equipment. Two further ships turned back, insisting they would only continue with American naval and air support.

    When Kennedy awoke the next morning, he was informed that the air cover had been sent—but the military planners had forgotten the one-hour time difference between Cuba and Nicaragua. When the brigade’s B-26s arrived, the unmarked American planes were still sitting on the aircraft carrier.

    • Thanks: gay troll
  47. @Reg Cæsar

    Julie is a prize eccentric but that’s show biz, and yes, she’s looking good. Great, actually. She’s a staunch Democrat who said that Hillary had “cankles.” And she is also a veteran of the golden age of theater, when you needed some real chops to tread the boards. I think she won a Tony.

    I don’t know the leaf blower story.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  48. Incitatus says:

    “What is America’s mission?… Here is Bush, Jan. 20, 2005: ‘From the day of our Founding, we have proclaimed that every man and woman on this earth has rights, and dignity, and matchless value, because they bear the image of the Maker of Heaven and earth…Advancing these ideals is the mission that created our Nation… Now it is… the calling of our time.”

    Great GWB 2005 speech. Three years after invading Iraq, no end in sight (e.g. Rummy’s “dead-enders”, looting the National Museum, burning the National Library). Where are Saddam’s WMDs Pat?

    Why wasn’t Iraq Ken Adelman’s “cakewalk”? Why did we shed blood (thousands of men) and treasure ($3+ trillion) for a war Richard Pearl and AEI promised would “self-finance”? And (contrary to promise) got us nowhere?

    Give us a hint.

    GW Bush enacted two wartime tax breaks (Cheney said it was ‘our’ due), doubling the National Debt ($5 to $10 trillion). Obama, saddled with Bush’s 2007-08 RE melt-down and the ACA, did the same ($10 to $20 trillion). Trump (with one major tax break) did even better – $7 trillion in one term. And, of course, he left Biden the COVID pandemic. 500,000 dead and counting.

    Well done, Donald! Well done GOP! Well done Pat!

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  49. Franz says:
    @Sparkon

    There is no need to translate Jack Kennedy’s entirely clear English into your mangled and reheated version of it.

    Maybe I should have tried Esperanto slang — You missed my point and your own.

    Whatever Kennedy did or did not want, or whom he knew, is irrelevant. The “blank check” to the world is still operational.

    Don’t you get it?

    Kennedy was turned into a demigod by the bums who killed him. Why? Because his lusty “A new generation… tempered by war…” is what they wanted him to represent. After he was safely dead.

    Phil Ochs wrote and sang “Cops of the World” in 1966… long time ago. The words still ring true, which is how they used the Kennedy myth and the blank check he wrote.

    Any hints on changing the myth and cancelling the check would be helpful.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  50. @Franz

    If Kennedy had any clear understanding of America’s vital interests, he would have launched a full scale invasion of Cuba in 1961. This would have ensured that Cuba remained within America’s orbit and precluded the near nuclear war of 1962.

    There would be no direct American involvement – apart from military aid – in South East Asia, where it had no vital interests. But Kennedy was not a pragmatic politician. He failed in Cuba and tried to overcompensate by military intervention in Vietnam.

    As Kennedy’s Inaugural Speech makes plain, he laid the ground for America as a Propositional Nation. He was in many ways the 1st Neocon President. It was during his Presidency that Israel acquired, from America, the materials necessary to build nuclear bombs.

    • Replies: @Franz
    , @G. Poulin
  51. Sparkon says:

    British historian Paul Johnson called this Kennedy quote “A blank check hurled at the feet of the world” and I’ve always thought Johnson was right

    Whatever Kennedy did or did not want, or whom he knew, is irrelevant. The “blank check” to the world is still operational.

    This whole “blank check” business is nonsense and a figment of Paul Johnson’s fevered imagination, irrespective of what you think, but of course the right wing and other Kennedy bashers are going to try to have a field day with it.

    To wit, this same Paul Johnson was later honored by George W. Bush with the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 2006. Really!

    You accept this Brit’s hyperbolic label and claim, but I don’t. Beware of foreigners trying to poison the American well, and never forget that Actions Speak Louder Than Words! Pres. Kennedy’s decision to pull out of Vietnam indicates that those words in his inaugural address may have been just rhetoric to appease the dangerous right wing in the United States.

    President Kennedy’s actions after the Bay of Pigs clearly show he was working to deescalate conflicts around the world, reduce tensions between the United States of America and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, and pull out of Vietnam, which may have been among the reasons he was assassinated, but there were several, including LBJ’s likely indictment for criminal activity.

    “I was assured by every son of a bitch I checked with—all the military experts and the CIA—that the plan would succeed,” Kennedy told Nixon, who came to see him in the Oval Office on 20 April. The president paced around the Oval Office, cursing the CIA, the Joint Chiefs, and members of the White House staff. Nixon advised him to invade Cuba. At this, Kennedy demurred, pointing out that Khrushchev might attack in Berlin if he did. “It really is true that foreign affairs is the only important issue for a President to handle, isn’t it?” Kennedy remarked. “I mean, who gives a shit if the minimum wage is $1.15 or $1.25, in comparison to something like this?”

    There were those who blamed Eisenhower for allowing a faulty invasion plan to be designed in the first place. At this, according to Dick Nixon, Ike “hit the ceiling.” “I would never have approved a plan without adequate air cover,” he told Nixon. On 22 April, Eisenhower met Kennedy at Camp David, and informed him in short terms that not only had the operation been a military disaster, but it had been worse: it had let Khrushchev see he was weak. “I just took their advice,” Kennedy pleaded, meaning the CIA and the Chiefs of Staff. After leaving the meeting, the new president was visibly shaken.

    A few days later, he sought an audience with another five-star general, Douglas MacArthur, at New York’s Waldorf-Astoria Towers. MacArthur did blame Ike, his old rival and sometime subordinate officer. “All the chickens are coming home to roost and you are living in the coop,” MacArthur said, gruffly. “Eisenhower should have done something about Cuba sooner.”

    Many opinions, but again, actions speak louder than words. Kennedy and Khrushchev set up the “hot line” and signed the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, which are hardly signs of weakness, but rather indicate mutual respect between the Soviet Premier and the American President, and those momentous actions to reduce tension and avoid miscalculations were visible to the whole world.

    JFK’s decision to pull out of Vietnam speaks volumes, as does McNamara’s speech in November, but they killed JFK before he could put these plans into action, and LBJ reversed Kennedy’s decision to pull out of Vietnam.

    Any hints on changing the myth and cancelling the check would be helpful.

    I can’t change the myths bouncing around in the heads of right wingers and resolute Kennedy bashers, but I can try to set the record straight.

    It is you who have to cancel the bogus “blank check,” because it’s all in your imagination.

    • Replies: @Franz
  52. @Incitatus

    The idiot W’s second inaugural speech reminds me of a song often sung in the Methodist church of my youth: “Onward Christian Soldiers, marching as to war, with the cross of Jesus going on before.” On at least one occasion Bush even called our nation’s mission a “Crusade,” a declaration of War Against Terror – IOW a war against Islam. It’s a short step from the belief of the superiority of Christianity over all other religions, to the belief that our country is the one and only “Exceptional Nation,” with the duty to right all wrongs by bombing the enemy into submission.

    Lord save us from these Christian Soldiers, who take their marching orders from God’s Chosen People.

    • Agree: nokangaroos
  53. Franz says:
    @Verymuchalive

    As Kennedy’s Inaugural Speech makes plain, he laid the ground for America as a Propositional Nation. He was in many ways the 1st Neocon President.

    A striking way of looking at it, but true. It might also explain the Neocon’s exclusive deification of JFK after his death — a point many Americans, maybe most, never agreed with.

    My family on this issue was typical. They were sad JFK got killed in 1963 because they wanted to see him go down in flames to Barry Goldwater in the 1964 election. Goldwater was much more hard nose than Kennedy, and in his later years acknowledged that the bullet that killed Kennedy also killed the chance of a Goldwater presidency.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  54. Franz says:
    @Sparkon

    It is you who have to cancel the bogus “blank check,” because it’s all in your imagination.

    It’s not in my imagination.

    It’s American troops stationed all over the globe. No post-World War II president has seriously questioned this issue. Ask any group of veterans from the last 50-60 years. So who/what were we protecting, exactly?

    Kennedy isn’t all the problem, and his was a different world. If the security state killed him I see irony at work. JFK may have hated the CIA but the CIA won.

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  55. G. Poulin says:
    @Verymuchalive

    I think it was Lincoln who dedicated us to a proposition, one that over time has gotten us really f—ed.

  56. @Paperback Writer

    I don’t know the leaf blower story.

    You should. Brentwood. Celebrities. Mexican laborers. Pollution. The issue has iSteve written all over it!

    Julie Newmar Writes: Get Rid Of It… Leaf Blowers

    “Why would you vacuum your lawn? Your lawn is not a billiard table.”

    According to the CBS video she links to, Santa Monica has an iPhone app for the purpose of reporting blowers.

    Noisy Leaf Blowers – YES, a BAN is POSSIBLE

    “Noise annoys. Julie called attention to the problem several years ago, but in this “PC” age, there was backlash. Huh?

    “It seemed that some were defending the noisy leaf blowers because they were being wielded by “people of color,” and many were pitiful poor immigrants. Should they have to go back to using old-fashioned rakes, as people all over the world have used for hundreds of years?”

    Sound & Fury

    “IF THERE WAS ANY DOUBT that the high-pitched, whiny noise emitted by leaf blowers could transform otherwise sane, peace-loving people into borderline sociopaths, “Catwoman” actress Julie Newmar put it to rest. In a move that attracted national attention, the lithe Hollywood starlet last year spray painted the word ruido–Spanish for noise–in the alley outside a neighbor’s house when he refused to stop his gardener from using a blower.”

    “Two dozen or so immigrant Mexican laborers in dirt-stained baseball caps sitting in the spectator seats couldn’t look more disgusted. They have come all the way from the suburbs of California to the capital to attend this hearing. One of them, I learn later, has even participated in a hunger strike to protest the ordinance that Graves and other members of the entertainment industry such as Tony Danza and Meredith Baxter have turned into a cause célèbre.”

  57. Oh, *that* leaf blower story. I thought you meant Steve was directly involved.

    I agree with Julie about this, and about Hillary’s cankles.

  58. Sparkon says:
    @Franz

    It’s American troops stationed all over the globe.

    No doubt, but you’re trying to blame it all on John F. Kennedy, who was president for less than 3 years almost 60 years ago, so yes, it is all in your imagination.

    No post-World War II president has seriously questioned this issue

    What was NSAM 263? What was McNamara’s speech at the Waldorf in Nov. ’63 about? What was Lisa Howard up to? You’d like to pretend it all never happened, but Pres. Kennedy had ordered a total U.S. withdrawal from Vietnam of about 16,000 American GIs, which by the way is just 3% of the total of 549,500 GIs in Vietnam by 1968 under Pres. Lyndon Johnson, and I think JFK had much more in store for ’64.

    Ask any group of veterans from the last 50-60 years…

    I’m one of those veterans, having served in the USAF from 1964-1971 with an honorable discharge at the end of my service. If Pres. Kennedy hadn’t been killed, I do declare it would be a much better world today.

  59. Franz says:

    I’m one of those veterans, having served in the USAF from 1964-1971 with an honorable discharge at the end of my service.

    Same here, only I got out in 1972 (USN). Emergency appendectomy at a real bad time extended my tour while almost killing me.

    For the record, I don’t disagree with all that much you have been saying. I just can’t unlearn the fact that Harry Truman gave us the National Security State in 1947 and every few years there is always a crisis, JFK or no JFK, to keep justifying it. Kennedy just believed the rank of “president” mattered more than it did. He should have tempered his Inaugural (“Bear our share of the burdens” maybe? “Any” means a lot.)

    To what extend to presidents even make actual policy? Nixon’s “imperial presidency” blew away like a dry leaf in Autumn. When the actual rulers tired of him, he was shipped out. And they didn’t care much that we could see the hook pulling Dick offstage.

    An old service buddy of mine really did play a game of chess with G. Gordon Liddy during his radio days, and Liddy basically told him the country is run by the agencies. My friend won the chess game, but was disturbed by a former operative telling him the facts of life.

  60. How any intelligent person pay any attention to “mission statements” by presidents of the US or the empty rhetoric that corporations put on their websites is beyond me. Biden, like Trump before him and Obama and Bush before him, just read flowery sounding slogans and statements written for them by professional speechmakers. 95 percent of it’s just BS and the only reason that they read it is because of tradition. The press want to hear the speeches and it gives work to the journalists that try to interpret them. It’s the same thing that sportscasters do when they try to decipher every unintelligible grunt that comes out of the mouths of negro sportsball players and team owners. It creates jobs and gives listeners something to do in their pathetically empty lives.

  61. @Biff

    Crimea was liberated from the threat of Ukronazi genocide, under to ‘Responsibility to Protect’ doctrine, applied honestly, for once. And verified by massive popular vote. Navalny is a fascist, racist, chauvinistic crook, thief and Western asset, not a ‘dissident’. Lukashenko was properly elected, and the text-book ‘Colour Revolution’ has failed. China cracked down on Western financed and trained compradore terrorist thugs on its own territory in Hong Kong. It doesn’t belong to the English drug-runners anymore. And the Uighurs are treated well, and the stories of barbarity are all Western lies of the ‘Germans impaling babies on bayonets’ type.

  62. @A123

    Funny how nearly all the worst neo-conservatives, the most bloodthirsty and aggressive, are Zionazi Jews, many former Trots, and quite a few devotees of the Talmudic ‘philosopher’ Leo Strauss.

  63. @anonymous

    Nothing need to be said about Coma Joe. W was so dumb, that his role in 2001 was to read about a pet goat.

  64. Petermx says:

    I would recommend our “beltway elites” visit Belarus, in particular Minsk, before doing anything else. Minsk is the capital and it is a very beautiful city. It puts most or all major American cities to shame. OK, that’s not saying much but it stands up well against many other European cities too. I didn’t see any slums or dangerous no go areas like I would bet are in London and Paris today.

    Perhaps our “beltway elites” want to put some Jews in charge of Belarus too so they can do to Belarus what they have done to Ukraine. Actually, that probably is their plan.

  65. @Charles Carroll

    I had the definite sense the second time I watched that scene play out that it was also a personal jab at W. I don’t know precisely what the sub-text was but it seemed to really put W into a feeling of discomfort- as though he knew he had been set up for ridicule. The camera was right their recording it all. It struck me as a humiliation ritual with layers of nasty sub-text.

    • Replies: @Charles Carroll
  66. Just out of curiosity, why in God’s name did you drive a BMW around in Michigan of all places during a primary where you needed votes?

    I sent you a 50 dollar check that year – your sister Bay sent a nice thank you letter —- HAD YOU ASKED ME I WOULD HAVE SAID hey if Trump can be president some day so can you —- BUT YOU HAD TO DRIVE A BEEMER —- and, to tell the truth, the Beemers back in the day were not all that great.

    Oh well, you are a good guy overall.

  67. @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    Would the mastermind do that to his son? Papa Shrub’s crime family is very powerful, although it is subordinate to the Khazarian Mafia who also participated. They are into occult symbolism. Research Baphomet. In 2000, they inverted the stars of the GOP logo. The twin towers represent the gates of hell. Baphomet points upward and downward, meaning as it is above, so it will be below. I.e., it is Satan’s turn to rule the earth. See Teddy Roosevelt’s statue on Roosevelt Island in DC. He was a Freemason which had been infiltrated by the Khazarians. They assassinated Lincoln, because he ended their very profitable slave trade business.

    https://vigilantcitizen.com/moviesandtv/the-esoteric-symbolism-of-the-viral-video-i-pet-goat-ii/

  68. dfordoom says: • Website

    Truth be told, Biden’s words are more in tune with the country today than are JFK’s (which led straight to Vietnam), or Bush 43’s neocon reveries, which vanished in the sands of Iraq.

    Biden’s words sound a lot more sane to me than JFK’s or Bush 43’s. A lot more sane and a lot more hopeful.

  69. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Reg Cæsar

    John Derbyshire is right that only Anglo-Saxons (and some close kin) can do democracy

    In 2015 David Cameron was returned as prime minister of the UK. His party got 36% of the vote. Is that an example of how well Anglo-Saxons do democracy?

  70. @Franz

    The Deep State may or may not have commissioned the assassination of Kennedy, but I’ve always had trouble seeing the involvement of Mossad and the Israelis. Kennedy was good for the Jews. Certainly unlike Eisenhower. Kennedy had allowed them to obtain materials necessary for nuclear bombs. He looked on them very favourably.

    So it’s hard to believe they would want him permanently removed, unless they were absolutely certain that Johnson were be even better for the Jews. I don’t think they would take the risk. But unless we find absolutely definitive evidence, we’ll never know one way or the other.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Franz
  71. Ron Unz says:
    @Verymuchalive

    The Deep State may or may not have commissioned the assassination of Kennedy, but I’ve always had trouble seeing the involvement of Mossad and the Israelis. Kennedy was good for the Jews. Certainly unlike Eisenhower. Kennedy had allowed them to obtain materials necessary for nuclear bombs. He looked on them very favourably.

    No, you’re entirely mistaken, although that was certainly the naive public impression at the time. During the 1990s numerous historians conclusively proved that behind the scenes, JFK was locked in a gigantic and very bitter battle with the Israeli government over the nuclear weapons issue, with the American president making the matter his top international priority. He was also arranging to destroy the power of the growing Israel Lobby by having AIPAC’s predecessor organization declared “a foreign agent.”

    All these policies were immediately reversed after JFK was killed, and there’s strong, almost overwhelming evidence that Israel’s Mossad played a central role in the assassination. I discussed the topic at very considerable length in a long article a year or two ago:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-mossad-assassinations/#final-judgment-on-the-jfk-assassination

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
    , @Resartus
  72. @Ron Unz

    Thanks for the reply. My recollection of Kennedy’s relationship with Israel is based on knowledge that is over 30 years old, so it must be very dated by now. I’ll give your article a thorough read. Certainly, Johnson’s attitude to Israel was supine to say the least, and you do not have to be a USS Liberty survivor to agree with that.

    • Agree: anonymousperson
  73. Franz says:
    @Verymuchalive

    The Deep State may or may not have commissioned the assassination of Kennedy

    I look at it this way: There’s always been a debunking squad, call it the “Kennedy had it coming anyway” club, and they keep pointing to Chicago Mafiosi, Texas Oilmen, Cold Warriors, etc. They miss the fact that none of these, even Israel, would have had half a chance without the cooperation of the US security state, at the very least the NSA, CIA and the FBI.

    The “JFK bad” argument fails to grasp is that it don’t matter. If a president was removed by or with deep state approval, the American system is illegitimate. We now have a media and university system who by itself can effectively nullify a president they don’t like. Trump I mean.

    Why bother with elections if the New York Times knows best? Why investigate an assassination if being insulted as a “conspiracy theorist” is all it gets you?

    Franco was in charge of Spain when I was in the navy. Liberals of the world hated him, a real fascist after all. But Spaniards had more freedom then, and a far more say in how they lived, than Americans have now.

    It probably really does matter that JFK was “removed” by the Dulles wing of our permanent establishment. Soon, maybe real soon, they’ll dump elections. That’s what started with JFK: Citizens count for nothing.

  74. Resartus says:
    @Ron Unz

    He was also arranging to destroy the power of the growing Israel Lobby by having AIPAC’s predecessor organization declared “a foreign agent.”

    Considering the Democrat’s pandering to foreign Leaders/Companies,
    my opinion every Lobbyiest not registered as a “Foreign Agent” should be arrested….
    Could make the argument, even most politicians on both sides should be registered…..

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