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As our July Fourth celebrations were beginning, the U.S. quietly closed and abandoned Bagram Air Base, the largest American military base between the Persian Gulf and the South China Sea.

Afghan looters were soon seen scavenging inside the base.

The long retreat of the American Empire is underway, and this longest war is likely to end in bloody retribution for the Afghans who sided with us against the Taliban and are left behind.

When the last American departed Bagram, The Wall Street Journal reported that the U.S. is making plans for “an emergency evacuation of the American embassy in Kabul amid concern that a worsening security situation in Afghanistan could imperil the remaining military and diplomatic corps.”

Apparently, we are preparing for a possible Saigon ’75 finish to the war launched by George W. Bush 20 years ago. Pressed by reporters on the grim situation in Afghanistan, President Joe Biden did not want to reflect on or talk about what might be coming.

“I want to talk about happy things, man,” Biden told reporters. “Look, it’s Fourth of July … it’s the holiday weekend. I’m going to celebrate it. There’s great things happening.”

In that same edition, the Journal reported that China has moved 50,000 troops to the border region with India where forces of the two nations, in June 2020, had their bloodiest skirmish in decades.

Other reports suggest that China intends to fill the vacuum left by the departure of America’s power and provide billions from its Belt and Road Initiative to build a highway from Kabul, Afghanistan, to Peshawar, Pakistan.

As America executes its strategic retreat from Central Asia, China is on the move.

In addition to militarizing its frontier with India, China is reasserting its maximalist claims to the South China Sea, ending independence and crushing democracy in Hong Kong, continuing cultural genocide against the Uyghurs, and regularly sending swarms of warplanes toward Taiwan to transmit the message to Taipei that annexation is but a matter of time.

Nor was Chinese President Xi Jinping’s address on the 100th anniversary of the establishment of the Chinese Communist Party an exercise in nuance.

“We’ll never accept insufferably arrogant lecturing from those ‘master teachers!'” said Xi, drawing a roar from the crowd of party members and veterans. Clad in a Mao suit, Xi had other warnings for those who seek to stand in the way of Communist China’s destiny:

“The Chinese people will never allow foreign forces to bully, oppress or enslave us … Whoever nurses delusions of doing that will crack their heads and spill blood on the Great Wall of steel built from the flesh and blood of 1.4 billion Chinese people.”

Undeniably, Xi and his predecessors have an awesome record, as the Financial Times relates:

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“China’s emergence over the past four decades ranks as the biggest and longest-run economic boom in history. Its annual gross domestic product rose from a mere \$191bn, or \$195 per capita, in 1980 to \$14.3tn, or \$10,261 per capita, in 2019. It has raised more than 770m people from poverty and transformed the Chinese economy into a high-tech powerhouse that is on course to eclipse America’s in size. This transformation is the landmark achievement of the Chinese Communist party, which celebrates its 100th anniversary on Thursday.”

China’s growth could not have been achieved had it not been for the U.S. decision to throw open the world’s largest consumer market to Chinese-made goods, to bring Beijing into the World Trade Organization, and to sit idly by as a huge slice of U.S. industry and manufacturing was transshipped to China for production there and not here.

Between 1990 and 2021, U.S. imports of Chinese-made goods provided Beijing with the trillions it has accumulated to finance its strategic objective of becoming the first power on earth.

But this is water over the dam. Where do we go from here?

China’s assets are impressive. At 1.4 billion people, it has the largest population on earth. If its growth rate continues, it will have the largest economy. Its strategic arsenal of nuclear weapons is a fraction of ours, but given the horrendous damage these weapons can do, a nuclear war would be ruinous if not mortal for both countries.

In terms of conventional military — ships, soldiers, planes, guns, missiles and bases in the East Asia-Western Pacific theater where any war between us would be fought — China’s advantages are greater.

And of the issues over which we might fight — islands, rocks, reefs in the South and East China Seas, and Taiwan — none of them is claimed by us or vital to us. All are claimed by China as rightly theirs.

In the Cold War with the USSR, time, it turned out, was on our side. But in the last decade, Xi Jinping might fairly see time as having switched sides. Either way, we are surely better off relying upon our abilities rather than our weapons to win the competition and settle the rivalry that may settle the future of mankind.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

 
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  1. There has never been a group of Americans in power, so utterly stupid as the conservatives after WW2. except the Liberals after WW2.

  2. SafeNow says:

    “surely better off relying upon our abilities rather than our weapons”

    I take it “abilities” is a polite word for plumbers, electricians, air traffic controllers, dentists, farmers, and the student body of Stuyvesant High School. So far, these “abilities” are still proficient. But I fear that the “good enough” ethos of the great demographic snd cultural replacement is contagious, and the “abilities” will be relaxed. Boeing Max, eliminate standardized testing, condo collapse, and so on.

  3. Notsofast says:

    mission accomplished….if the mission was to burn trillions of dollars in the desert.

    • Agree: Sick of Orcs
    • Replies: @Marshal Marlow
  4. The long retreat of the American Empire is underway

    We can dream but not true. Afghanistan is small potatoes, and the US is moving out of there to create more trouble in other parts of the world. Maybe in Turkey. Maybe with Russia. Or maybe a limited naval conflict with China over Taiwan. US empire is still in Europe and Asia, the two most important parts of the world apart from the US.

    https://odysee.com/@theduran:e/bolton-neocons-target-turkey-erdogan-for:0

    Idiot Japan is goading war between US and China by saying, ROTFL. China and Russia are planning a Pearl-Harbor-like attack on the US, LOL. Japan and Germany, the third and fourth biggest economies, are total whores of the US.

    China’s growth could not have been achieved had it not been for the U.S. decision to throw open the world’s largest consumer market to Chinese-made goods, to bring Beijing into the World Trade Organization, and to sit idly by as a huge slice of U.S. industry and manufacturing was transshipped to China for production there and not here.

    But that’s neither here nor there. However powerful China becomes, it will be an Asian thing. And if China finally ousts US from Asian Pacific, it will be good for both Asia and the US. It will be good for Asia because American influence is now only toxic with globo-homo BLM degeneracy. What has the US spread in Japan, SK, Taiwan, and etc recently but Negro-worship, ‘gay’ garbage, trash culture, and hatred between men and women? So, departure of US from Asia will be good for Asians. It will also be good for Americans because the US is better off focusing on American affairs than meddling in other parts of the world. What the hell is the US still doing in Japan, SK, and Taiwan? Let China take Taiwan. Let SK defend itself from starving NK. Japan needs to stop being a whore. Without meddling in Asia, Americans can focus on American interests, American economy, American sovereignty. After all, empire usually means not only loss of sovereignty among the subjects but also among the dominant power. It’s about time US brought back all troops from Asia, Europe, and Middle East and put them along US border to prevent illegal invasion.

    Also, however powerful China might become and no matter how many people it has — 1 billion, 2 billion, 5 billion, 10 billion — , the fact is they don’t have control over US elite institutions and industries. Those are controlled by Jews, and Jews are hellbent on turning the white race into an eternal helot people. China didn’t spread globo-homo. China didn’t encourage blacks to burn down cities. China didn’t arrest patriots who protested election fraud.

    Even before China began to rise, US was doomed because whites allowed Jews to take power in what had always been a great race-ist white Christian nation. White race-ism used to be awesome in this country. Lose race-ism, lose everything.

  5. JimDandy says:

    Is there a name for a vassal state that is a vassal state to two states?

    • Replies: @Rahan
  6. nsa says:

    As long as the Chinese exclude the jew, the Chinese will prosper. The USA welcomed the jew termites in between 1880 and 1920, and 100 years later look at the result. Any white non-jew think endless immigration from the turd world is a good idea?

    • Agree: anonymouseperson
    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  7. Mr. Buchanan for years has been posing as a dissident, questioning the costs and benefits of empire. However, anyone who reads him closely will realize that he invariably (i) demonizes any nation resistant to American hegemony, (ii) burnishes the Exceptional! image of Uncle Sam, and (iii) uses pronoun propaganda — “we, us, our” — to make readers think that any of this furthers the legitimate interests of Americans.

    This paragraph

    In addition to militarizing its frontier with India, China is reasserting its maximalist claims to the South China Sea, ending independence and crushing democracy in Hong Kong, continuing cultural genocide against the Uyghurs, and regularly sending swarms of warplanes toward Taiwan to transmit the message to Taipei that annexation is but a matter of time.

    is the message in today’s column.

  8. The odd thing about Buchanan is he wrote books like “Republic, Not an Empire” but called for nationalism and rejection of globalism… but a part of him seems to lament the imperial decline of the US.

    Old habits die hard. His worldview formed during the Cold War years is still beholden to Imperial Prestige.

    • Agree: anonymouseperson
    • Replies: @houston 1992
  9. Perfect setting for a zombie movie.

  10. @Priss Factor

    Yup, as his old boss RMN used to say , to understand a man you have to know what age world was like when he was 20 yo…”

    PJB , born in 1938 was, as his bio says, ” born to be right…” Catholic, one of nine siblings, aware of Bolshevism, aware of the Left murdering conservatives in Spain including thousands of priests…….

    In 1986 so blinded by the Cold War 1, he thought maintaining the front against the USSR merited losing DRAM semiconductor capability to Japan/ Korea. He later recanted, but at least he was capable of seeing his follies.

    2012 talk (link below) is at Politics Prose bookstore in which Telegraph journalist, Stanley, explains what he learnt from writing his PJB bio, The Crusader.

    I think the 10 minutes are worth ones time…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THtf5Extvfk

    Key moments are at 5:04, 7:34 ;
    Stanley graciously lavishes praise on PJB at the end and what has motivated PJB.

    I cannot find a video of what PJB said subsequently

  11. @Greta Handel

    Similar to Enoch Powell in the UK, renegade Pat, wants to maintain some influence in the Stupid Party (lest it somehow becomes even more stupid.) So, just as Powell censored himself. PJB self-censors and engages in “we” and “our interests…” etc He is hedging, I am fairly certain.

    • Disagree: Greta Handel
  12. The decline of America and the Zionist American empire are NOT the same thing. Nor is China a serious danger to American territory. It is only a danger to an American empire in Asia.

    • Replies: @St-Germain
  13. @Notsofast

    Admittedly, the nights there are cold.

  14. Franz says:

    Afghan looters were soon seen scavenging inside the base.

    Sort of like Filipino looters were inside abandoned American bases there over 30 years ago when we packed out of there?

    The “American Empire” is a diversion while a third party robs us blind. Bases of the empire are part of the robbery. Just more proof Americans don’t run America.

    So okay, yeah, some enterprising Afghans get to make a bundle on Uncle Sugar’s stupidity. 20 years ago Dennis Kucinich tried to tell you it would happen. But we can’t listen to “lefties” Pat, can we?

  15. If there was a nuclear war between China and the USA, any surviving Chinese would set to repairing the damage, if it takes a thousand years. Americans would slaughter one another and turn cannibal, no doubt with exceptions, who would be hunted down by the ‘Exceptionalists’. Then the country would return to its natural state, with climate changes, of course.

  16. @nsa

    I imagine that well-behaved Jews will be welcome. Chinese will expect reciprocal rights, of course. Politicians bribed by foreigners get elected in the USA, and shot or spend years in gaol in China.

    • Replies: @Anon
  17. @houston 1992

    Your view is too charitable. But even if you’re correct, he’s become ineffectual at best.

    • Replies: @Houston 1992
  18. @Greta Handel

    There Pat goes with the Uyghurs again! Sigh!

  19. @anonymouseperson

    So, are you saying that if the American empire falls apart in Asia, its European lackeys will pretend not to notice and will continue to keep their rickety carts hitched to the same dying horse?

    Empires don’t retreat. And a retreat can always turn into a rout. It is not as though the Empire has no serious enemies who would certainly find surprising ways to take advantage of its deepening weakness.

    Buchanan is an astute student of history. And he has a proven instinct for identifying its megatrends. He’s also practical enough not to die on every hill. The GOP may now be moribund but its still offers a respectable platform for a battle-scarred patriot. Not for nothing is Buchanan the most accomplished scribe of political history that Columbia University’s Graduate School of Journalism has ever produced. Pat’s essay here once again hits the nail on the head.

    • Replies: @anonymouseperson
  20. crushing democracy in Hong Kong…..

    The Chinese didn’t “crush democracy in Hong Kong”, they successfully resisted a color revolution fomented by the CIA.

    Americans, on the other hand, have succumbed to their own color revolution (color: black) with barely a whimper.

    • Agree: animalogic
  21. @Priss Factor

    “Asian thing” huh you british descanded small brain with a yellow fever , China is making british and australians into his concubines as we speak .

  22. China’s rise to power?

    Answer: Who let the Chinese in?

    Answer:‘started with Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan…

    My older cousin…phd in mathematics….told me that the Mao Suits with thick black glasses and greasy hair appeared on SUNY Stony Brook Campus January 1979…….In 2021, drive on 25A past SUNY Stony Brook and all you see are Mainland Chinese all over the place….

    China’s rise to power=the repeal of the 1888 Chinese Legal Immigrant Exclusion Act

    A 1+1=2 type question:Why are the Chinese being imported into America?

    Answer:Because 4 Star US Army General Slimey Mark Milley wants Chinese LEGAL IMMIGRANTS and their US born Chinese geneline to vote The Native Born White American Working Class Historic Majority into a violently persecuted White racial minority within the borders of America…

  23. Rahan says:
    @JimDandy

    Is there a name for a vassal state that is a vassal state to two states?

    The smaller countries of the EU/NATO are vassals of Brussels and Washington at the same time. And, implicitly, Israel.

    If you keep your head down, say all the right things, and are fine with losing the active chunk of your population to the West, send occasionally five people to “participate in peace keeping missions” and vote “correctly” to sanction Dr. Doom, it works out, like for the Baltics… You get to be Soviets larping as Swedes to your heart’s content.

    [MORE]

    • Agree: Old Brown Fool
  24. Afghan looters were soon seen scavenging inside the base.

    Should’ve been rigged with a million lbs. of explosives. 💥

    • Replies: @Realist
  25. Realist says:

    As America Recedes, China Rises

    Buchanan has such a special way of stating the obvious…like Rain Man or Forest Gump.

  26. @houston 1992

    I’ve just seen a comment (#155) posted a couple days ago by Doris under Mr. Sailer’s “Donald Rumsfeld, RIP” that may help you and others see how Mr. Buchanan — if it’s even still him — has since become an Exceptional! shill.

    Or you can go straight to the evidence:

    Neocons Setting Up Rumsfeld as Iraq Fall Guy

    https://www.wrmea.org/005-march/neocon-corner-neocons-setting-up-rumsfeld-as-iraq-fall-guy.html

  27. Rurik says:

    bloody retribution for the Afghans who sided with us against the Taliban and are left behind.

    good

    I remember a fellow American saying he turned down an offer to go to Afghanistan and work as a contractor for a gob of cash. I was glad he turned it down, because as far as I’m concerned, every foreign contractor or Afghan collaborator working with the Great Whore, deserves to suffer whatever the Afghans decide to exact by way of punishment for invading and occupying their nation.

    China has moved 50,000 troops to the border region with India

    Oh my God!

    Where do I sign up?!

    warplanes toward Taiwan to transmit the message to Taipei that annexation is but a matter of time.

    Over my neighbor’s son’s dead body!

    “We’ll never accept insufferably arrogant lecturing from those ‘master teachers!’” said Xi, drawing a roar from the crowd of party members and veterans. …

    “The Chinese people will never allow foreign forces to bully, oppress or enslave us …

    Try to imagine an American politician saying the same about AIPAC

    Americans might be too busy forcing another burger down their gullets to notice, but the rest of the world sees very plainly that North America is a vassal and whore to the ((war fiend / money junkie)).

    An extremely humiliating fate for a people to tolerate.

    I suppose if AIPAC is filling your coffers with ‘Benjamins’, then at least you have some reason\$ for supporting the fiend- (even if it’s a betrayal of one’s own people to thier worst enemy),

    But for your average American to suffer such servile ignominy is beyond depraved.

    The Afghans that sided with the Great Satan deserve their fate, just as all those who take AIPAC’s shekels deserve the same. We should ship them all over there, and give them to the Taliban to deal with.

    Either way, we are surely better off relying upon our abilities rather than our weapons to win the competition and settle the rivalry that may settle the future of mankind.

    Who the fuck is this “we” and “our”, eh Pat?

    I feel more affinity and kinship with the Chinese people than I do with ‘wokeness’ or Cuckservative Inc.

    As a patriotic American, my biggest enemies are in Washington, DC and Hollywood, not Bejing.

    The Chinese may consider your typical middle or working class American to be a rival of sorts, by the Z.U.S. Federal government and Western media harbor a murderous, genocidal hatred for us. And spend every minute of their rotten lives doing all they can to fuck us over.

    When you say ‘us’, and ‘our’, I feel more comity and kinship with the Chinese government and Chinese people than I do with our ((‘woke’ institutions and politicians)).

    When Xi mentions these “insufferably arrogant … … foreign forces” doing all they can to “bully, oppress or enslave us …”

    I also feel like cheering. Viva Xi! Viva Alexander Lukashenko! Viva Viktor Orbán!

    We all need to resist the fiend! China, Belarus, Hungary, Russia and North American patriots.

    That is a ‘we’ and ‘our’ that I can get behind!

    Fuck the arrogant (((foreign forces))) and their treasonous whore politicians – presuming to order us around and use our children as cannon fodder in thier wars.

    Send them all to Afghanistan or China to fight “our” wars.

    Hey Mitt, hey Marco, hey corporate CEOs and ‘wokeness’, you got your parachutes and rifles ready?

    If it was a war between you and the Taliban, (or Chinese or Russian..), I’d be on thier side before you could say ‘AIPAC’s shekels’.

  28. Rurik says:

    If it was a war between you and the Taliban, (or Chinese or Russian..), I’d be on thier side before you could say ‘AIPAC’s shekels’.

    Neither the Taliban nor Xi or Putin ever called me a privileged racist

  29. Realist says:

    As our July Fourth celebrations were beginning,…

    As our Independence Day celebrations were beginning,…

    FIFY…surely you are old enough to know the correct name of the celebration held on July fourth in this country.

    In addition to militarizing its frontier with India, China is reasserting its maximalist claims to the South China Sea, ending independence and crushing democracy in Hong Kong, continuing cultural genocide against the Uyghurs, and regularly sending swarms of warplanes toward Taiwan to transmit the message to Taipei that annexation is but a matter of time.

    My God…the Chinese are acting a little like the United States…but only a very little.

    Hong Kong and Taiwan are Chinese and should be reincorporated into mainland China.

    The Uyghurs are not being subjected to cultural genocide…the People’s Republic of China does not approve of organized religion…in this case Islam.

    “We’ll never accept insufferably arrogant lecturing from those ‘master teachers!’” said Xi, drawing a roar from the crowd of party members and veterans. Clad in a Mao suit, Xi had other warnings for those who seek to stand in the way of Communist China’s destiny:

    “The Chinese people will never allow foreign forces to bully, oppress or enslave us … Whoever nurses delusions of doing that will crack their heads and spill blood on the Great Wall of steel built from the flesh and blood of 1.4 billion Chinese people.”

    The gratuitous, deprecatory Clad in a Mao suit phrase is to be expected from you.

    Yes, Xi does have a poetic flair. A welcome change from our dear leader…C’mon man.

    • Replies: @anon
  30. @Greta Handel

    Pat is an intellectual historian who has used politics and the GOP as his arena / vehicle for getting his ideas out. Pat does not want to trade the old GOP vehicle into the crusher. I wish he would be more candid, but some influence is better than none. His wife also does not want to be ostracized. Per Darwin evolutionary theory , we evolved in groups of 50-70 for tens of thousands of years , and we fear ostracisation as that was death for so much of our evolutionary history. ( Kevin M writes about the issue including for Lindbergh and his wife …)

    I attended his WH Wars book promotion talk at the Nixon library in May 2017. At least some passionate pro PJB Hispanic Republicans attended and cheered him. So he has a toehold ….

  31. Realist says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    Should’ve been rigged with a million lbs. of explosives.

    Why it’s their country? We should have never been there. You sound like an imperialist.

    • Agree: GomezAdddams, Brad Anbro
  32. You’re confusing terrorist muslims with an official government, the latter of which wouldn’t be looting.

    Since we were there, we should’ve fought to win, without mercy. That’s how real warfare is waged, not Uniparty Forever Wars™.

    You sound like an imperialist.

    If I am, what of it? The USA doesn’t live up to the definition of imperialism.

    • Disagree: Rurik
  33. Other reports suggest that China intends to fill the vacuum left by the departure of America’s power and provide billions from its Belt and Road Initiative to build a highway from Kabul, Afghanistan, to Peshawar, Pakistan.

    I say:

    He who controls the Strategic Gravel Deposits of Afghanistan will control the world.

    Mahan or Sailer or some other guy on the internet wrote that.

    China will discover that controlling the Strategic Gravel Deposits of Afghanistan is no bowl of beef with broccoli.

    I have been warning for a long time about the frisky grabby play that China will one day make for the Strategic Gravel Deposits of Afghanistan and now Pat Buchanan has spoken of it and I feel nothing but dread and remorse and a strong sense of foreboding for the future.

    Mitch McConnell has been a clear and present threat to the national security interests of the USA for decades now and Mitch McConnell has been an agent of the Chinese Communist Party for decades and Mitch McConnell is married to a woman who has extremely shady connections to the Chinese Communist Party and I wonder if this Chinese plot to grab the Strategic Gravel Deposits of Afghanistan hasn’t been one of the insidious goals of that treasonous skunk who misrepresents the great state of Kentucky in the US senate.

    I predicted what Mr Pat Buchanan has recently written about.

    I wrote this in 2018:

    The Chinese will waltz right in and steal the strategic gravel deposits of Afghanistan after the American Empire departs Afghanistan.

    The Chinese will use the strategic gravel deposits of Afghanistan to create the roadbed underlayment for their One Road, One Belt, Many DeadBeat Nations project for global domination.

    The Russians will tell the Chinese it is better to have muddy roads than an Afghanistan Islamic Warrior eating figs and taking pot shots at you. The Chinese will say we know how to handle these Islamist creatures, thank you, and they will start digging into the gravel deposits greedily.

    Some sneaky intelligence operative will hatch a plan — for a good profit — to make sure the Afghanistan Islamic Warriors know how badly the Chinese treat their own Islamic populations.

    I think the CIA did that to Russia in Afghanistan some years back. That CIA plot, combined with the open borders mass immigration policies of the United States government, resulted in a dramatic change in the New York City skyline as viewed from the Hoboken train station.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/will-trump-exit-afghanistan-too/#comment-2709386

  34. tyrone says:
    @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    Right!, liberal/conservative: a three card monty routine …..the American voter is the mark.

    • Replies: @Dr. Charles Fhandrich
  35. @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    “Erik Prince and Blackwater in Ukraine —for the sake of freedom and democracy, Then again USA moving out of Afghanistan –mission accomplished —cost –perhaps a few billion” and Pius Pompeo’s analysis coming from his younger nephew –Michael–is an opinion at best.

  36. “addition to militarizing its frontier with India, China is reasserting its maximalist claims to the South China Sea, ending independence and crushing democracy in Hong Kong, continuing cultural genocide against the Uyghurs”

    The 240 million or so Euro-Americans are the Uyghurs or Tibetans of America.

  37. @War for Blair Mountain

    Racist are stupid, aren’t they. Its a Zhong shan suit, created by Sun Yat-sen, actually.

  38. @tyrone

    Bravo to you friend. You caught my meaning.

  39. @War for Blair Mountain

    In 2021, drive on 25A past SUNY Stony Brook and all you see are Mainland Chinese all over the place….

    Chinese have a major presence in Montgomery County, MD, just adjacent to DC.
    Chinese scientists have held very many positions in Mo Co’s genome labs and research centers for at least 20 years. Lots of Chinese scientists and technicians at NIH in Bethesda.

    Where once Italian and Greek restaurants lined the major thoroughfare, now Chinese, Vietnamese and Korean restaurants dominate. Chinese groceries have displaced the formerly prevalent “Giant.”

    The Chinese have established communities for their old folks, a scaled-down model of the Jewish community center in closer-in Montgomery County. Two years ago parents clamored to get their children into the MoCo public school that had an immersion program in Mandarin. A high-end gated community advertised that it was in the bounds of the Mandarin program.

    Chinese buy up real estate — the crappier the better — and rent it out. Purchases are made for Chinese “cousins” back in China, and for their children in college in Canada.

    15 years ago Flynt and Hillary Leverett wrote the near-equivalent of Pat’s essay: they argued that while US was threatening and attempting to economically destroy Iran, China and Russia were allying and expanding. Their book, Going to Tehran, posited that US policy toward Iran should replicate Nixon’s policy toward China.

    I wonder if they have recalibrated that argument.

  40. bayviking says:

    China’s rise took twenty years. America’s decline took 40 years. A comeback is possible with a change in thinking and policy. But it will also take time, possibly 10 years with the right leadership. Like our dead Kennedy that still managed to inspire our determination to land on the moon.

    First we must abandon paper shuffling as a core economic system and make production of new wealth our top priority.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  41. The disinformation about an Uyghur “genocide” is totally worthless. The effective power in China, which is not a deep (hidden) power, but does not bother with the charade of rigged elections, to the difference of the effective power in many Western countries, protects its citizens from jihadists. It does not stir up chaos to better control its population.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  42. China is a paper dragon; it is overpopulated; has an aging population; its military capabilities are greatly exaggerated; it faces growing debt; but they are smart; they wont make the mistake the British, Russians and Americans did and send in troops to Afghanistan; they will just build roads and leave their military at home; China is the modern day ”Yellow Peril” invoked to increase ”defense spending” for the Pentagon; they have a modest nuke arsenal enough to vaporize a few American cities which would be a deterrent to any US government but not the huge nuclear expensive nuclear arsenals of Russia and the US; as for the Afghans they are tough people; they can take care of themselves; we should just leave as it appears we have done.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  43. @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    American elite expected the Chinese elite to throw their working people to dustbin and join the globalist elite in looting, killing and ruining the whole earth, and then settle on Mars. Apparently the Chinese elite have other ideas. Those ideas may not be good for the workers of the rest of the world, though.

    • Replies: @Dr. Charles Fhandrich
  44. @War for Blair Mountain

    If what you say comes through, and a Chinese-majority USA does appear, the LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ priests would find that a Chinese-majority USA does not tolerate them, unlike the White- majority USA; and about the other “racial” minorities, well, lets politely say Chinese will not feed them for free, they will make them earn their living, measure them, and throw away those who are not up to their mark.

  45. SteveK9 says:

    Pat needs to get together with doddering Joe and head to the old folks home. Everything he says is so simplistic, it is not worth reading.

  46. @Max Maxwell

    China has enough nukes to cause a nuclear winter and kill us all, hence their sensible decision to not engage in a pointless nukes race. As for a ‘paper tiger’-it is to laugh! Its military isenough for defence, and it owes most of its debt to its State banks. As for aging-that’s what robotisation, computerisation, 5G and 6G, AI and automation are for. In a few decades the Chinese will have more ‘lying flat’ time than they’ll know what to do with.

  47. @Jean-Marie L.

    To falsely accuse a nation of ‘genocide’ based on utterly fraudulent ‘evidence’ created by a Christian fascist lunatic, Zenz, a US-controlled ‘Australian’ disinfo sewer, the ASPI, and the BBC vermin, is Evil, and a de facto declaration of war. That it comes from the genocidal imperialist, settler, regimes of the Five Eyes, including Canada, now counting the unmarked graves of thousands of Indigenous children, brutally murdered by the Church and State, is hypocrisy so vile that words fail.

  48. @bayviking

    China’s rise began in 1949. It is a mistake to say it began in 2000 or 1978.

  49. @St-Germain

    Well as far as I am concerned sir, the American empire in Asia can indeed fall apart. If that means, as you seem to fear, that the American empire in Europe will also follow suit, that is fine. Americans don’t need an empire.

    • Agree: Max Maxwell
  50. Anon[283] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    I imagine that well-behaved Jews will be welcome.

    Of course. Well behaved meaning not showing preference for their own kind, not infiltrating any institutions (LOL, not that any non-Chinese, of any sort, would ever be allowed to), not pushing any cultural agenda of any sort, and never being influential in any sphere of life, at least as a group. Individuals are fine. Alien groups are not.

    A great many individual Jews have already made lives in China. But they can never be a force as a group.

    When any one group becomes judged as “too influential” (not even powerful per se), the Chinese crack down, hard.

    Heard of Falun Gong? 100% Han Chinese religious group, was found to have adherents in various sectors – business, academe, local governments, media. And they were found, upon government investigation, to be networking with each other to place yet more members into positions of influence.

    One day, the Han Chinese put all the pieces of the puzzle together – they didn’t like the picture. So began the crackdown. They executed many, sent most to camps, and the rest fled. This was all done well into the reform period of China, in 1999.

    If the Chinese will not hesitate to do this to their own, to a group with a great many connections internationally, would the Chinese hesitate with anyone? Note that Falun Gong adherents continue to lobby and buy Western politicians and media to put pressure on China – to no avail.

    Jews can practice their religion in China, in peace. If they self-segregate, they become, automatically, “alien”. The Kaifeng Jews are 99.99% Han Chinese by genetics, well-behaved, law-abiding – and are seen as alien, because they put religion before nation.

    That’s China.

  51. @Old Brown Fool

    Yes that is true…However, White Men who are real men…wouldn’t offload that job to the Chinese..

    Larger point:One way or another, the day of reckoning is coming for White Democratic Party Liberals…..This filthy degenerate subhuman species continued existence will not be tolerated in the future…Or perhaps the White Democratic Party Liberals long term plans was always to be exterminated like a nest of cockroaches that they are….

  52. anon[367] • Disclaimer says:

    Afghanistan is a sink hole. So far it has swallowed up 3 empires – British, Soviet and JuSA. In each case, the imperialist power that pulled out of Afghanistan went on an inexorable decline.

    Xi’s Imperialist China will be next. Let them go dig their own grave with Afghanistan.

  53. anon[389] • Disclaimer says:
    @Realist

    the People’s Republic of China does not approve of organized religion…in this case Islam.

    China doesn’t have a problem with Islam. There are almost 25,000 mosques in Xinjiang, the majority of which were built in the last 20 years.

    What China doesn’t want is radicalized Muslims and ISIS types of Jihadis. (Some did fight for ISIS) As Xinjiang shares a border with Afghanistan and Pakistan, Wahhabi extremist ideology took root in some parts of Xinjiang, and China tried to remove that influence.

    Just three years ago, the US was bombing them in Afghanistan.

    U.S. targets Chinese Uighur militants as well as Taliban fighters in Afghanistan
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna845876

    There years later, some UK politicians would like to welcome them with open arms.

    UK should create asylum fast-track for Uyghurs, say MPs
    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/uk-should-create-asylum-fast-track-for-uyghurs-say-mps/ar-AALT731/

    Good job, UK.

    • Thanks: Realist
  54. Anon[994] • Disclaimer says:

    Isn’t Xi stating the obvious?

    If your country has kept its sovereignty against constant subversions/color revolutions from globalists and oligarchs and lifted its population out of poverty to prosperity, why would you tolerate propaganda from the globalist media peons that invert the picture?

    The Xinjiang camps, HK, etc. are all bull like CIA’s Tibet and the Hollywood Dalai Lama.

    China is a relatively open country, there are plenty of expats and foreign companies in Xinjiang and Urumqi. The incarcerated are ISIS/CIA trained terrorists who maimed and killed thousands of civilians. There are no reasons to exterminate Uighyurs, who stayed on their land, kept their language and culture for centuries as part of China. For real genocide look closer home, especially at the thousands of buried bodies of native Canadian children in Catholic boarding schools who died under mysterious circumstances.

    • Replies: @Anon
  55. @Old Brown Fool

    Yes. Not the comment of a “Fool” at all. I couldn’t agree with you more.

  56. Anon[166] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    China is a relatively open country, there are plenty of expats and foreign companies in Xinjiang and Urumqi.

    Yeah. Xinjiang is a cornerstone in China’s BRI

    https://www.scmp.com/economy/global-economy/article/3140169/china-europe-rail-trade-undamaged-beijing-brussels-tensions

    A record 6,090 trains passed through Xinjiang inland ports in the first six months of the year carrying 6.57 million tonnes of goods in and out of China

    Plus

    Former chief of staff to United States Secretary of State Colin Powell and retired Army Colonel, Lawrence B. Wilkerson, on Xinjiang

    That’s why the US, the UK, Canada, and Australia push hard for the Uighurs genocide narrative. Not because the so-called genocide happened, but because they hope the propaganda can achieve their geopolitical goal.

  57. “As America recedes, China rises.”

    Pat, don’t worry about it too much. We still have the best “weekend paint ball warriors” in the world. If only the paint ball guns were made in the U.S. instead of China..

  58. As America Recedes, China Rises

    Every dog has its days. The white dogs have had their days.

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