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Why is Germany sending weapons to Ukraine? Don’t they realize these weapons will be used to kill Russian soldiers? Don’t they realize these weapons will be given to Nazi combatants who tattoo swastikas on their arms and march in torchlight parades? Don’t the German people care about that?

In World War 2, the German Wehrmacht killed 27 million Russians. Isn’t that enough? How many Russians have to die to satisfy Germany’s bloodlust? Another million or so? 5 million? 27 million? How many?

And, how does a country with Germany’s history justify the killing of more Russians today? Alot of people would like an answer to that question? I know I would.

Chancellor Olaf Scholz thinks that Germany has a moral obligation to back Ukraine in its war against Russia. In a televised speech to the nation he said, “We defend law and liberty on the side of the party under attack. We support Ukraine in its battle against the aggressor.”

What Scholz failed to mention were the numerous (Ukrainian) provocations that took place prior to the Russian invasion. He failed to mention Kiev’s stepped-up bombardment of east Ukraine where 14,000 ethnic Russians have been killed in the last eight years. He failed to mention the 30-or-so Ukrainian bio-weapons labs where lethal pathogens –that target specific ethnicities and spread highly-contagious diseases around the world– are being secretly developed. He failed to mention that President Zelensky had threatened to rebuild Ukraine’s nuclear weapons program which would put nuclear missiles on Russia’s western border. And he failed to mention that Ukraine had become a defacto member of NATO via its joint-military drills, logistical support, training and arms shipments from the Alliance. All of these have created a grave threat to Russia’s national security. But Scholz failed to mention any of them. Instead, he used the entire presentation to whip up support for another US-led bloodbath.

“We cannot allow ourselves to be paralyzed by fear,” Scholz said emphatically. “So, we have decided to deliver arms.”

Scholz is simply acknowledging what everyone already knows, that he got his marching orders from Washington, and he is complying with those orders. That much is obvious. Here’s how the World Socialist Web Site summed it up in a recent article:

“The historic decision to let German tanks roll against Russia once again is not driven by “security and peace” and least of all the protection of the Ukrainian population. Instead, Germany and the other NATO powers have systematically provoked Russia’s reactionary invasion to allow them to wage a proxy war against Russia on the backs of the Ukrainian population….

In the months leading up to the Russian invasion, the Ukrainian government, with massive support from the US and Germany, has been preparing to bring the areas held by pro-Russian separatists in the east of the country under its military control. A war against Russia in Crimea was also planned…. All restrictions imposed on Germany after the world war are to be removed, and the Bundeswehr will be rebuilt into the largest European army….

The German government has already delivered tanks from former East German stockpiles to Ukraine and announced further heavy arms deliveries. These include anti-aircraft tanks and self-propelled howitzers that are capable of enormous destruction. Germany and NATO are ready to lay waste to Ukraine in order to defeat Russia…

With its heavy weaponry, Germany is equipping the Azov Battalion and other neo-Nazi units. These groups are the political descendants of Bandera’s Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN), which was responsible for the murder of thousands of Ukrainian Jews.” (“On anniversary of defeat of Nazi regime, German Chancellor Scholz delivers war speech”, World Socialist Web Site)

How did we get here? How did we reach a point where no one is concerned about the reemergence of German militarism?

It can all be traced back to Russian President Mikhail Gorbachev.

In 1990, after the fall of the Berlin Wall, Gorbachev lifted his objections to German reunification and “agreed that a unified Germany will be free to choose which alliance it will belong to, and Chancellor Helmut Kohl told Gorbachev that Germany wanted to stay in NATO.”

Got that? Gorbachev gave Germany the green light to join NATO.

Can you see what a terrible mistake that was? Can you see that German reunification and the entry of Germany into a hostile, Russophobic military alliance (NATO) paved the way for the current conflagration?

Germany’s entry into NATO was followed by three waves of expansion that pushed the Alliance further and further eastward until today, NATO’s combat troops, military bases and missile systems are on Russia’s doorstep just a few hundred miles from Moscow.

And NATO’s eastward push will not stop at Ukraine either, any more than Hitler or Napolean stopped at Ukraine. Ukraine is just the last whistlestop on the way to Moscow. That’s the real strategic endpoint; Moscow. So, eventually, NATO will push deeper and deeper into Russian territory destroying everything in its path and killing anyone who gets in its way. That’s where all this is headed, in fact, the Pentagon warlords don’t even try to hide it anymore. “We want weaken Russia,” they say. “We want to break Russia’s back”. And, that is the plan. They want to crush Russia and seize its resources. Nothing is concealed. All of this is being stated publicly.

And it’s all Gorbachev’s fault. The crisis Russia faces today, can be traced back to Gorbachev.

What was he thinking? Was he thinking that NATO would honor its word and not “move one inch east” like they promised? Was he thinking Germany would not eventually ‘get back on its feet’ and resume its habitual march eastward? Was he thinking that leaders in the west had miraculously changed their spots and become more trustworthy, unselfish and peaceful?

What a stupid, stupid man. Gorbachev’s breezy liberalism has brought NATO’s weapons systems and NATO’s shock troops to Russia’s doorstep. He has cleared the path for another agonizing and bloody conflict that will plunge the entire region into chaos and ruin. Is it any wonder why western leaders sing Gorbachev’s praises at every opportunity? Check out this excerpt from an article at RT:

“Large-scale NATO military drills started in Estonia on Monday. The exercise dubbed ‘Hedgehog 2022’ is one of the largest in the Baltic nation’s history, according to the military bloc. The drills will involve some 15,000 troops from 14 nations, including both military bloc members and their partners.

Soldiers from Finland, Sweden, Georgia and Ukraine are among those that will take part in the exercise… The drills will include all branches of the armed forces and will involve air, sea and land exercises, as well as cyber warfare training, according to the broadcaster. According to a NATO statement, the drills will also see the US Navy Wasp-class landing ship ‘Kearsarge’ take part in the exercises….

The drills started just a day after Finland and Sweden officially announced their plans to join NATO...

The exercises in Estonia are, however, just one part of NATO’s large-scale military activities near the Russian border. Another Baltic state, Lithuania, is hosting the ‘Iron Wolf’ exercise, which involves 3,000 NATO troops and 1,000 pieces of military equipment, including Germany’s Leopard 2 tanks.

Two of NATO’s biggest exercises – ‘Defender Europe’ and ‘Swift Response’ – are taking place in Poland and eight other countries, involving 18,000 troops from 20 nations, according to NATO’s statement on Friday….

The NATO Response Force is currently taking part in the 7,500-strong ‘Wettiner Heide’ drills in Germany. The Mediterranean Sea is about to witness ‘Neptune series’ naval drills involving the USS ‘Harry S. Truman’ carrier strike group that will be placed under NATO command. This will only be the second time since the end of the Cold War that a US carrier group has been transferred under the military bloc’s command, NATO has said.

In June, the Baltic States and Poland will host what NATO describes as “Europe’s largest integrated air and missile defense exercise,” which would involve 23 nations. In late April, Finland hosted NATO naval drills. Now, it is also hosting a joint land exercise, in which troops from the US, the UK, Estonia and Latvia are participating.

The massive military wargames are taking place amid heightened tensions between Russia, NATO and some of the military bloc’s partners. Finland, which shares a long border with Russia, and Sweden decided to reconsider their long-standing policy of non-alignment following a major change in public opinion after the launch of Russia’s attack on Ukraine.” (“NATO starts drills near Russian border”, RT)

What will it take for the American people to see what’s going on right before their eyes?

NATO and the US are simulating a war on Russia because that’s the plan. These are massive, integrated, combined-arms exercises that are structured in a way that best addresses the strengths of a particular​ enemy. And that enemy is Russia. Can’t you see that?

And have you noticed how it’s suddenly okay to talk openly about war with Russia? Among the cadres of retired generals that appear regularly on the cable news channels and their chest-thumping allies in the Democrat party, all sense of caution has been completely abandoned. They’re no longer deterred by the threat of nuclear war because– according to them– the US will prevail in a nuclear war and, besides, they all agree that it is worth the risk. Maybe you think I’m kidding, but I’m not kidding. The prevailing view among establishment elites has fundamentally changed. These people want a war with Russia and they want it now. Their lust for war has completely eclipsed their fear of nuclear annihilation. It’s madness.

And Germany has joined the rush-to-war despite the fact that it will trigger an unprecedented energy crisis followed by a severe economic slump that could last for years. In short, Scholz has committed economic hari-kari to placate his masters in Washington. Here’s more from the WSWS:

“Germany is using the war to remove all obstacles that previously stood in the way of unrestrained rearmament… First, the German government increased the arms budget by €100 billion… and abandoned the principle of not supplying weapons to war zones. Ukraine was first supplied with light and then with heavy weapons. In the meantime, Ukrainian soldiers are also being trained on German soil...

The German government’s preparations for a Third World War are not limited to arming the Bundeswehr (Armed Forces) and providing military support to Ukraine…. The former editor-in-chief of finance daily Handelsblatt, Gabor Steingart, speaks bluntly about this in his “Pioneer Briefing” on Tuesday. Without the slightest qualms, he discusses the question of what is required to make a world war “manageable”:

“The waging of a Third World War is not just a military issue,” he proclaims. It is “first and foremost an economic issue. For without economic disentanglement along the power and military blocs, effective warfare that can be sustained over a longer period is impossible, as we can already see from Germany’s dependence on Russian natural gas.”

“Whoever wants to make world warfare manageable must first unbundle world trade,” Steingart emphasises. “Economic independence is more important than billions more for the Bundeswehr. So, it is not only the soldiers and their military equipment that must be gathered into an offensive formation, but also economic resources.”

“Viewed with this economic eye,” he then states, “the preparations for making a Third World War manageable are in full swing.”..

The insane policy of preparing a third world war and making it “manageable” is supported by all parties represented in the Bundestag… Germany must “urgently define its national interests against the background of the new reality” and “adopt a national show of strength to implement and safeguard them,” it says. “To meet this challenge, comprehensive military capabilities are needed, which will also entail many a sacrifice and burden.” (“Germany’s preparations for a third world war in full swing“, World Socialist Web Site)

Do you still think the idea of a Third World War is far-fetched?

Of course, not. The preparations are already underway. The elites want war because they see no other way to preserve the western-centric world order. That is why the threat of German militarism has been ignored by the media and foreign heads-of-state. Because they now think that German militarism can be used to defend America’s global primacy. And that’s what they want.

Here’s a bit more background from an interview with Norman Finkelstein

“The Russians were promised that there would be no NATO expansion to the East, that was the quid pro quo for the reunification of Germany after the decomposition of the Soviet Union. The Russians were promised that but the West went ahead. We’re talking about the 1990s: the promises were given, but the West then went ahead and started to expand NATO …. there was the first tranche, then the second tranche … Then NATO starts expanding in Georgia and in the Ukraine (which crosses) a red line.

To stop this, (Russia) offers a perfectly reasonable resolution: just neutralize Ukraine like we neutralized Austria after World War II, neither aligned with an Eastern bloc nor aligned with a Western bloc. That seemed to me perfectly reasonable…

And then the reasonableness of those demands,… have to always be seen in context. So, what’s the context? The context is the Soviet Union, the former Russia, it lost… the estimates are about 30 million people during World War II….

And now there’s this Ukraine, where Nazis are playing an outsized role. (and they), are aligned with a formidable military bloc called NATO (and) NATO keeps advancing and advancing and advancing, closing in on Russia, trying to suffocate it… And beginning around 2016, under Trump, begins to arm the Ukraine, pouring in weapons, engaging in military exercises with NATO, behaving very provocatively. And then the Foreign Minister Lavrov finally says we’ve reached the boiling point.

(So, for) more than 20 years… Russia has tried to engage in diplomacy; (to make Ukraine neutral) like Austria after World War 2… (So) if you agree that was a legitimate demand, and if you agree that the West was expanding and expanding NATO, and if you agree that Ukraine had de facto become a member of NATO, with weapons pouring in and engaging in military exercises with NATO; and if you agree… that Russia lost 30 million people during World War II because of the Nazi invasion,…, then the simple question is: What was Russia to do?

… I’m not a general and I’m not a diplomat, so I’m not going…. so, I’m not going to say it was the wisest thing to do…. But I will say … that they had the right to do it….They had …. the historic right to do it. 30 million people (killed during WW2), and now you’re starting again, now you’re starting again? No, no,… I can’t go for those who acknowledge the legitimacy of the arguments made by Putin but then call the invasion criminal. I don’t see that.” (“Norman Finkelstein : Russia has the historical right to invade Ukraine“; Listen to the whole interview, The Saker)

Yes, Putin has every right to protect his country from another foreign invasion. And, he’d be foolish to think that that’s not what Washington has in mind, because that’s precisely what they have in mind. What Washington really wants is a subjugated Russia languishing permanently beneath Uncle Sam’s bootheel.

So, Putin must do everything in his power to prevent that from happening. And, so far, he’s done just that.

Bravo, Vladimir.

 
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  1. Anon[282] • Disclaimer says:

    This article is spot on. The war party will
    continue to escalate this conflict into next year and further.

  2. Souza says:

    Excellent article!

    • Agree: JR Foley
  3. Got that? Gorbachev gave Germany the green light to join NATO.

    Sloppy work here – Germany joined NATO in 1955.

    I agree the insanity of the German government is very difficult to understand. Perhaps the intelligence operations of the pissant state have really good pictures of some German government folks with underaged farm animals.

  4. Moses22 says:

    Got to love Finkelstein, a man with integrity and a conscience who paid the price for both at the hands of Zionists.

  5. Good questions. And some answers.

  6. Anon[369] • Disclaimer says:

    Not to be Captain Obvious here, but I think the Krauts love them some Nazis…

    • Troll: Trinity, A. Nonymous
    • Replies: @Fritz Grantler
  7. RestiveUs says:

    What’s with this accusation of “German” militarism? Germany has not been an expression of Germans since the end of WWII and it’s demographic composition is being diluted by massive immigration. Whatever militarism might be ascribed to that country nowadays comes from the outside.

  8. @Zachary Smith

    A full forensic audit of the financial holdings and sources of revenue for German leaders and their families might shed some light on the “why” question….

  9. peterAUS says:

    …. these weapons will be given to Nazi combatants who tattoo swastikas on their arms and march in torchlight parades….

    … How many Russians have to die to satisfy Germany’s bloodlust?….

    …. 30-or-so Ukrainian bio-weapons labs where lethal pathogens –that target specific ethnicities and spread highly-contagious diseases around the world– are being secretly developed…..

    …. With its heavy weaponry, Germany is equipping the Azov Battalion and other neo-Nazi units……

    …. NATO will push deeper and deeper into Russian territory destroying everything in its path and killing anyone who gets in its way…..

    …. These are massive, integrated, combined-arms exercises that are structured in a way that best addresses the strengths of a particular enemy. And that enemy is Russia. ….

    …. These people want a war with Russia and they want it now. Their lust for war has completely eclipsed their fear of nuclear annihilation….

    … Bravo, Vladimir…..

    A man has to pay his bills, make a living.
    Slippery slope.

  10. Why did the US enter the the war so late in 1944? Because they had hoped that the Wehrmacht would defeat the Russians. However after February 1943 the tables had turned when the Germans were defeated at the battle of Stalingrad. The Red Army made rapid progress and that over a front that was at least twice the size of the western front. In June 1944 at the Normandy landings, the Red Army stood already at the gates of Berlin. It was feared in the west that the Russians would conquer the whole of Western Europe and they would have if the US and allies had not opened a new front in Western Europe. The Russians fought Nazi Germany for four years (June 1941 till May 1945). The US in the west were there not even a year (eleven months) and they have the audacity to claim they won the war in Europe. During those eleven months the Allies were halted by the Germans and lost two battles: at Arnhem (a bridge too far) Sept 1944 and in the Ardennes Xmas 1944. The Russians lost 27 million people during the war and were left with a scorched earth in 1945. Nevertheless the US in 1949 still saw Russia as a “danger” and founded NATO.
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    • Agree: Skeptikal, JR Foley
    • LOL: A. Nonymous
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    , @James J O'Meara
  11. Anymike says:
    @Zachary Smith

    The Federal Republic (West Germany) joined NATO in 1955. German reunification occurred in 1990.

  12. The article misses the point by 180°.

    It would be a definite improvement if the Germans were consciously giving weapons to “Natzees” instead of provoking their natural allies and bombing their own industries.

    If the Germans had any agency left (don´t get me started on the Enemy States Clause) instead of blindly yielding to the Jewish yoke, they´d be freezing all Jewish assets (sordid gains amounting to the entire country) and kicking all Jews out of “their” judiciary, police/intel, schools and media exactly like 1933. Instead, there are only timid mutterings of discomfort from the AfD and FPÖ.

    Not only is blaming the Germans the go-to easy way out, misguided at best and downright sick at worst, but should any Americans flatter themselves that they are sovereign in this matter they are even stupider than commonly thought of.

    • Agree: HdC, Pop Warner, A. Nonymous
    • Thanks: Rurik
  13. gkruz says:

    Maybe Germans today want to get revenge for the the millions of German women who were victims of the rape hordes of our Noble Soviet Allies.
    Seriously, is there a bigger Putintard Russian shill on this Russian shill site than this guy? How many millions of Russians were murdered by the kike Bolsheviks who set up the Soviet Union, Mikey? Who liberated the gulags when the Marxist Red Army was busy “liberating” the concentration camps? How much does the Kremlin pay you?

  14. Today’s Germany has little “German” left in it that has not been under the heel of Jews and Israel since WWII and the latter now emulate the very worst of what is imagined and stylized by Hollywood to be how and what Germans were. Very much like when their black brethren gain power and behave as they imagine white folk do e.g. Detroit mayor Kwame Kilpatrick as BMOC, limos, drugs, hookers, parties and top jobs for cronies. The world’s going to REALLY miss the predominance of WASP leadership … scratch that, missed terribly now, but has been missing for decades in our ZOG.

    • Agree: A. Nonymous
  15. What makes the author think that Germany is even a sovereign nation? I came to the conclusion that it is not, simply by considering how many crazy and illogical things that nation has done since the end of WW2, that in no way helped their population. There are literally Germans who are poor and even ignored by their own rich government. They come in last. Sound familiar?

  16. Boomer bitch whitney is trying to bamboozle his low IQ readership again.

    The deal with Germany is that it is an occupied country, complete with occupational forces and planted nuclear weapons.

    The problem is that Germany lost the war against the boshelvik subhuman hordes.

    The problem is a lying, piece of shit kike lover like you, who like millions of other boomercoons make it extremely difficult to see the truth. I expect you to drop another Holohoax article next week.

    • Agree: A. Nonymous
    • Disagree: JR Foley, Jay Fink
    • Troll: RoatanBill
  17. Vlad, nuke these motherfuckers back to the Iron Age. God bless you sir.

  18. MarkU says:
    @Zachary Smith

    You are thinking along the right lines. In general people aren’t allowed into positions of power unless the deep state already has the goods on them, they like them to be corrupt so they can destroy them if they rebel.

  19. Germany, as well as USA and NATO, were instrumental in breaking up Yugoslavia yet now they’re putting all their efforts into preserving the Ukraine.

  20. If the Merry Khans and associated puppet states get their wish of Putin being deposed or replaced by involuntary means, I hope his successor turns out not so compliant as the West counts upon.

    Maybe then the Kremlin will start executing on what the hardliners will push for: preemption on their tormentors. Starting with the most dangerous among them. Which means the You Ass, eh? America may not correctly answer to being a shithole nation, but it is certainly Asshole Country.

    When Russia as a nation finally looks realistically at its forward prospects under centuries-old but now perpetual, never ending, relentless and ever more sophisticated attack from abroad; when the Russians as a people stop imagining that they will ever be valued or even respected for their many ascendant virtues, their will to prevail, or the holy connection they feel with their land; when Russians give up on hoping Americans are as good as their appearance within a popular culture built to mythologize and congratulate themselves using all the time they saved not having to defend their land and families; when Russian leaders realize that the corollary to “what can we do if we have no Russia?” is something like “what can’t we do if we have no western aggressors?”…maybe then Western civilization (sic) will indeed end with a whimper, but only after some well-placed bangs.

    Someone’s gonna think it’s worth a try. Look around and think about where the world, under present management, is really, truly headed. A change is better than a rest. Out with the new, in with the old. You can’t beat someone who prints money and can sell it. You can’t win against someone who tells lies and makes them stick. You pretty much have to light ’em up. Just a modest proposal.

  21. @Zachary Smith

    Sloppy work: Whitney should have written that the reunited Germany was given green light to join NATO. Gorby should have demanded Germany to leave NATO. But as we know today, that would only be de jure; de facto Germany would continue to be in Washington’s pocket…

  22. bispora says:

    The US has occupied Europe for 77 years, with troops stationed continuously in defeated Germany. It has nuclear silos in Germany, which the Germans have no intimate knowledge of, the launching of nuclear missiles is decided by the Americans – only the consequences, the Russian nuclear missiles, which the Germans receive in return. So my answer to the question in the article is: the Germans are following orders…

    • Agree: Decoy
  23. sonny six says:

    It will be interesting to see who suffers the most from the coming nuclear war, the poor, the middle class, or the elite. The only good news is war news , nothing like a good old nuclear war. Will make for a good video game. Get out the cheerleaders, my favorite part of the show.

  24. Malla says:

    Sorry Mr. Whitney, just because NS Germany had a war with a Communist party ruled USSR in the past does not mean you can apply this to today’s conditions. Because German Chancellor Olaf Scholz has been a lifelong Commie himself. Scholz joined the SPD in 1975 as a student, where he got involved with the Jusos, the youth organization of the SPD. From 1982 to 1988, he was Vice President of the International Union of Socialist Youth. He supported the Freudenberger Kreis, the Marxist wing of the Juso university groups, promoting “overcoming the capitalist economy” in articles. In it, Scholz criticized the “aggressive-imperialist NATO”, the Federal Republic as the “European stronghold of big business” and the social-liberal coalition, which puts the “bare maintenance of power above any form of substantive dispute”. On 4 January 1984, Scholz and other Juso leaders met in the German Democratic Republic or Communist run East Germany with Egon Krenz, the secretary of the Central Committee of the SED and member of the Politburo of the SED-Central Committee, Herbert Häber.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  25. Malla says:

    It seems like Commies and Nazis are allying with Commies and Nazis to fight each other.
    If you ask me, Trotskyite Commie West is clashing with Stalinist Russia + China. The power struggle in Soviet Russia after lenin died is now global!! Both sides will use Capitalism when it suits them. Both sides will call each other “Nazis” when it suits them (Ukinazis Vs Putler + Xitler). Interesting Comedy World we have.

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  26. Why the US imperialists will boost their efforts to destabilize China through Xinjiang

    https://bit.ly/3NcCifU

  27. Hitch says:

    In World War 2, the German Wehrmacht killed 27 million Russians.

    LOL. What an absurd statement, and you forgot to mention the 6 gorrilian Jews. Even assuming 27 million “Russians” died, there were millions of Russian soldiers sentenced to death by Stalin for having the audacity to surrender or refuse to storm bone-saw MG34’s, and then there is the simple fact that armies from Finland, Spain, Hungary, Italy, Yugoslavia and Romania all participated in Barbarossa. The SS was also composed of volunteers from all across Europe.

    Gorbachev gave Germany the green light to join NATO.

    LOL. What an even more absurd statement. East Germany collapsed and was absorbed by West Germany. West Germans are still paying a “solidarity tax” (finally reduced in 2020) to subsidize the Ossies who even after 30 years of subsidies are still unable to stand on their own two feet. West Germany had been part of Nato from its inception. To claim that Gorbachev gave the green light to “join” is ridiculous.

    The real issue that very few pundits seem to realize is that Germany, like the UK, the US, Canada, Australia, France and all of the EU and all of Nato are merely provinces of ZOG.

    Just as we have observed how all these countries “leaders” followed deep state diktats about “Covid” like mindless zombies, so have we seen these exact same “leaders” following deep state diktats about “Russia’s invasion of Ukraine”. There is still an unseen hidden hand running the “west”, just as it has been for the last few centuries.

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    , @Miro23
    , @Liosnagcat
  28. I’d like to add, that 1,5 million Ukrainians fled to Russia so far.

    • Agree: JR Foley
  29. @Zachary Smith

    Öh – all of Germany could join NATO because of Gobratchev. That sentence is right. 1955, it was just the Federal Republic of Germany, not Germany, that did join NATO. So: If there is a mistake here at all, it is a tiny one.

  30. What Scholz failed to mention were the numerous (Ukrainian) provocations that took place prior to the Russian invasion.

    These so-called “provocations” are irrelevant to the subsequent arms supply issue, nor did they cumulatively even justify Putin’s war of aggression that Scholz begrudgingly responded to.

    All of these have created a grave threat to Russia’s national security.

    Falsely invoking “national security” is just a cheap propaganda cliché that is especially hypocritical when it comes from Russia, which has been posing a threat to European countries for decades. None of the four points (“provocations“) cited by the author (“bombardment of east Ukraine“; “bio-weapons labs“; “threatened to rebuild Ukraine’s nuclear weapons program“; “joint-military drills, logistical support, training and arms shipments“), without any supporting explanations, ever created a “grave threat” to Russia.

    • The bombardment of eastern Ukraine was in the context of mutual exchanges of fire between rebels and government forces (both of which had violated the Minsk agreements) and therefore legally an internal Ukrainian matter that did not impact Russian security.

    • Bio-weapons labs are all over the world and ought to be banned. They are not sufficiently developed and are generally unsuitable for military warfare. Their presence was not even cited by Putin prior to the initiation of hostilities.

    • Zelensky’s hot-air threat of re-building a nuclear weapon program is tame compared to Putin’s repeated nuclear attack threats because a nuclear program takes many years to yield nuclear bombs while a threat to fire existing ones can be realized in a matter of hours.

    • Joint military drills with NATO and other measures that entail closer military defense cooperation between that organization and Ukraine were all legitimate and formally acknowledged to be so by Russia in a treaty between it and NATO signed in 1997 in Paris.

    The latest rant provided by the author is an escalation of his usual over-the-top hysteria and hyperbole. The histrionics seem to go even beyond Russia’s official talking points so he has had to copy and paste from the hard-core “leftistWorld Socialist Web Site to spread the sappy drama.

    Instead, he used the entire presentation to whip up support for another US-led bloodbath.

    This accusation is a typical case of reverse projection given that the author has been trying to whip up support for the ongoing Russian bloodbath during the past few months already.

    And it’s all Gorbachev’s fault. The crisis Russia faces today, can be traced back to Gorbachev.

    Oh what a relief to read that it’s not Victoria Nuland any more. Actually, the crisis can be traced back to Yeltsin for having brought back Russian chauvinism and Stalinist nostalgia in the mid-1990s, with the failure to have vacated the illegally occupied Königsberg / Kaliningrad territory after the withdrawal of troops from other Baltic regions, in August 1994, and a revival of the annual military parade extravaganzas, in May 1995. These attitudes to project power were inconsistent with the concept of promoting peace and security and inevitably provoked a desire by neighboring countries to want to join NATO, leading to the expansion that began in 1999.

    Blaming Gorbachev or Yeltsin is beside the point now because it was Putin who then exacerbated the increasingly tense situation over more than two decades. Putin bears primary responsibility, which is why he is widely expected to be swept aside from power this summer.

    • Disagree: Badger Down
  31. @Zachary Smith

    Sorry — a quibble.
    “Sloppy work here – Germany joined NATO in 1955.”
    West Germany joined then.
    Germany “joined” in 6/1991

    • Agree: Biff
    • Replies: @Hitch
  32. It is not “Germany”. Germany is gone. Rejoice.
    Fuckwits like you have destroyed Germany and keep at it with daily doses of lies.
    It is your leftover lackeys doing your dirty “work”.
    America, Israel, Vatican delenda est.

    • Replies: @Malla
  33. Anonymous[246] • Disclaimer says:

    Frankly, Russia’s best chance, not to win a nuclear war with the West, but to at least get a few licks in before they are annihilated, is to wage a first strike against the West, and especially Washington, NOW, while they still have some advantages including their unstoppable hypersonic missiles. Facing existential extermination from a disdainful enemy that considers them to be subhuman, thoroughly inept and about to be conquered by their betters, I think they will soon realise that an all out first strike is their only remaining option to take our obnoxious selves with them to the abyss. Besides, the future is not looking too bright for the America we remember under the new “woke” regime now in control. Once all fairness for Russia is gone–because the place no longer exists courtesy of Uncle Sam, expect the same for America’s new white minority already being blamed for every sin under the sun. If I’m gonna perish soon anyway, at least I might be able to thank Russia for eliminating my domestic haters, as Russophobia gives way to the emergent leucophobia.

  34. Prayer for World Peace
    Russia and Ukraine are both Slavic
    They need to work for Love Salvific
    A Christian brotherhood truly Pacific.
    Lenin to Gorbachev were times of trial
    With great suffering and much betrayal
    Great price was paid, there is no denial.
    70 years of Babylonian captivity
    Stalin’s terror of unparalleled gravity.
    It’s a great miracle it became history
    By the grace of God Who gives victory.
    Though Reagan is given much credit
    Saint Michael is one who really did it
    Using Polish pope and Mikhail Gorbachev
    The great victory Saint Michael did achieve.
    By the Queen of Peace Our Lady’s intercession
    Fatima to Medjugorje in perfect procession
    We have been spared the fiery devastation
    Of WW3 and nuclear annihilation.
    Stop the war and negotiate
    Everyone’s view appreciate.
    After all, we are human the very same
    In peaceful coexistence there is no shame.
    Love is the answer.

    • Thanks: Agent76
    • Replies: @Agent76
    , @JR Foley
  35. The author is seriously going to pretend like Germany’s offensive against the Soviets wasn’t a preemptive defensive move to beat the Soviets to the punch? This shows tremendous ignorance of history by the author. This isn’t to portray one or the other as the good guys or bad guys, but rather to point out the ridiculousness of the author’s moral posturing. Like the Soviet’s hands weren’t already covered in blood, or that they weren’t planning their own offensive against Eastern Europe and ultimately Germany.

    • Disagree: MarkU
    • Replies: @MarkU
    , @JM
    , @JM
  36. GMC says:

    Textbook plan to recruit plenty of fighting men – Destroy the economy, job market, currency, and offer a good pay to the destitute civilians in order to become soldiers. Miraculously, pull billions out the hat for arms and mobilization and head East. This worked in the Mideast and recently in Ukraine to create huge proxy armies for the One World Order.

    All the leaders of the Nato and puppet governments are bought off as well as the Media, as they program the people to blame and hate Russia and China for all their problems. It took the US, Nato and Israel Oligarchs just 5 to 6 years to do this in Ukraine. The Euro and Dollar are in a non stop printing and disperse mode, and there is nothing going to change until Russia and China together, move in to finish it.

    • Replies: @Notsofast
  37. meamjojo says:

    “In World War 2, the German Wehrmacht killed 27 million Russians. Isn’t that enough? How many Russians have to die to satisfy Germany’s bloodlust? Another million or so? 5 million? 27 million? How many?”

    I think 27 million is a nice number!
    ———
    We Should Say It. Russia Is Fascist
    May 19, 2022, 1:00 a.m. ET
    By Timothy Snyder – Dr. Snyder is a professor of history at Yale University and the author of many books on fascism, totalitarianism and European history.

    Fascism was never defeated as an idea.

    As a cult of irrationality and violence, it could not be vanquished as an argument: So long as Nazi Germany seemed strong, Europeans and others were tempted. It was only on the battlefields of World War II that fascism was defeated. Now it’s back — and this time, the country fighting a fascist war of destruction is Russia. Should Russia win, fascists around the world will be comforted.

    We err in limiting our fears of fascism to a certain image of Hitler and the Holocaust. Fascism was Italian in origin, popular in Romania — where fascists were Orthodox Christians who dreamed of cleansing violence — and had adherents throughout Europe (and America). In all its varieties, it was about the triumph of will over reason.

    Because of that, it’s impossible to define satisfactorily. People disagree, often vehemently, over what constitutes fascism. But today’s Russia meets most of the criteria that scholars tend to apply. It has a cult around a single leader, Vladimir Putin. It has a cult of the dead, organized around World War II. It has a myth of a past golden age of imperial greatness, to be restored by a war of healing violence — the murderous war on Ukraine.
    ….
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/19/opinion/russia-fascism-ukraine-putin.html

    • LOL: GMC
    • Replies: @MarkU
  38. meamjojo says:

    Now here’s a nice sneaky way to mobilize NATO and US troops close to Russia. Just in case…[lol]
    ==========
    Major NATO War Games Set to Begin Miles From Russian Base
    May 17, 2022

    The North Atlantic Treaty Organization will soon conduct large-scale exercises in the Baltics, with thousands of troops from more than a dozen nations set to take part in war games just 40 miles from the nearest Russian military base.

    Dubbed “Hedgehog,” the drills will kick off later this week in Estonia and run until June 3, meant to simulate a Russian invasion. They will involve 15,000 troops from 14 countries – including the United States, Britain, Denmark, Estonia, Iceland, Latvia, Lithuania, the Netherlands and Norway, as well as non-NATO members Ukraine, Georgia, Sweden and Finland.

    https://libertarianinstitute.org/news-roundup/major-nato-war-games-set-to-begin-miles-from-russian-base/

  39. What a stupid article.
    It was Germany that wanted peaceful relations with Russia since the end of WW2. Think of Ostpolitik or Nord Stream 1 and 2.
    The decisions to send weapons to Ukraine was not made in Berlin, but in Washington. Germany has still no sovereignty, it is still occupied by US forces and US institutions. The German government is full US educated “Young Leaders”, better to call them “Young Followers”.

    Besides that: Germany has for the last thousand years the heavy burden of the duty to defend Europe from invasions from the east: from the Huns, the Hungarians, the Turks and the Russians. WW2 was the last attempt, that Russia wanted to invade Europe. Stalin gave the orders, but Germany did a pre-emptive strike against his bolschewik Sowjet Union. Read the books of Viktor Suvorov.

    This article is full of antigermanism and hate against Germans. It reminds me of the Britisch and US propaganda in WW1. – Or is it satire?

    • Disagree: eah
    • Thanks: CelestiaQuesta
    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Carolyn Yeager
    , @eah
    , @Fox
  40. Germany, the Nazi successor State. is simply aiding its WW2 allies, as it did in Yugoslavia from the 80s, assisting the Crote, Slovene and Bosnian fascists who fought, and slaughtered, with them in WW2. I am not in the least surprised.

  41. mh505 says:
    @Zachary Smith

    Sloppy work indeed.

    27 million Russians? Might as well believe the 6 billion holohoax.

    • Agree: Da's Reich
  42. You had me laughing already just with Basil Fawlty’s goosestepping, great way to set the tone..

    The western leadership seems insane, but they know exactly what they are doing.

    They need a war, asap, with or without nukes (ideally limited), because their economy and their military are heading down the toilet, whereas Russia’s & China’s are headed to the stars.

    The longer they leave it, the more likely a “Twilights Last Gleaming” scenario will become a reality.
    I know it’s mostly wishful thinking, but more plausible each passing year..

    Their Great Reset is not just aimed at us plebs (though that is the main thrust of it);
    the western powers are willing to flip the table if it looks like they are going to lose their precious hegemony.

  43. Gorbachev gave Russia away to the West, then De Klerk did the same with South Africa. The next traitor was Zelensky, but in future it will be Scholz to dump his country into a proxy war in heroic style.

    The above assessment is based on the usual/old way of thinking. But what I observe becoming more and more visible, is the future in a world determined by Organizational Revolution, after the Industrial Revolution, after the Renaissance.

    It is a fit IMO and will have much better open-system-architecture outcomes than some idiotic (old style) WWIII

  44. And it’s all Gorbachev’s fault. The crisis Russia faces today, can be traced back to Gorbachev.

    What was he thinking?

    I’m thinking that M. Gorbachev was thinking “I’ll move to USA and be richly rewarded.” Is that what happened? Apparently not, but I’m picking that that was what he was thinking. And no, not a conspiracy theory, no conspiring needed to have a hope.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  45. Germany…like the Brits….like the US….like France…like Canada…like Australia…..answer to the Zionist Jews…. The Fascist ideology of many Ukrainians is being used as a smokescreen…..The fact of the matter is that the coup was engineered by Victoria Nuland, a jew, who is married to Robert Kagan ,…a Jewish Neocon,…who is a cofounder of PNAC,…which is the responsible for Operation Clean Break aka Oded Yinon aka the Plan for Greater Israel….and was responsible for the Iraq debacle …which was another war fought for Israel…..and who after the coup installed a Jewish puppet,,,who was replaced by another Jewish puppet…Zelensky, who’s biggest benefactor is a Jewish Oligarch …..Do you see the common denominator?

    • Replies: @Badger Down
  46. Kali says:

    It occurs to me that Germany is attempting to put itself on the ((right side of history)) and re-make it’s shattered reputation, no matter what the cost.

    I hope and pray that Russia takes some decisive deterrent action using it’s hypersonic capabilities against the ZEOL (Zionist Empire of Lies), targetting its economic, military and ideological infrastructure BEFORE it’s too late, before the ZEOL “manages” to expand us all into a third world war!

    Thanks for a very good article Mr Whiney. – Lacking in only one crucial aspect, in that it fails to identify the zionist cabal which controles and directs the actions of its empire from its Washington DC headquaters.

    It’s more crucial than ever that those of us who know the truth regarding jewish control of western governments speak out, no matter what the dangers, no matter how squeemish we may be to do so.

    We cannot solve a problem unless/until we confront it!

    Best wishes,
    Kali.

    • Replies: @profnasty
    , @Skeptikal
  47. Anonymous[242] • Disclaimer says:

    In World War 2, the German Wehrmacht killed 27 million Russians. Isn’t that enough? How many Russians have to die to satisfy Germany’s bloodlust? Another million or so? 5 million? 27 million? How many?

    And, how does a country with Germany’s history justify the killing of more Russians today? A lot of people would like an answer to that question? I know I would.

    Suppose that your questions were answered to your satisfaction, and showed that Germany was entirely justified. Than what? You’d OK the killings? Why should anybody care whether you OK’d the killings or not? A moral structure of some sort? Whence the authoritative moral structure you seem to be invoking, and how did it get its authority?

    The world is getting a bit sick of lying invocations of moral structures that turn out, 50 years later, to have been pretexts. Example: LBJ’s Great Society, which turned out to be a pretext for increasingly authoritarian government and genocide against any group outside the ruling coalition. Lying invocations have undercut even the idea of governmental legitimacy or for that matter of any legitimacy. We haven’t seen anything like the current situation since the wars of the 1600s undercut Catholic legitimacy.

  48. Z-man says:
    @Zachary Smith

    Well, look at their new leader ‘Schultz’, he looks like he plays with Barbie dolls at night.
    The NEOCON Bolshevik Rothschild Cabal in DC and London have a firm grip on Germany, in more ways than one. 😆
    The thing is the French ain’t gonna like it and it’ll eventually bite the Brits in the ass. The Germans will become the new ‘Russians in London’.

    NOTE: I hoped Boris of London would die of COVID. But, being a Christian man and believing in karma I actually was pulling for him to survive when he nearly kicked the bucket in 2020. Now I regret he survived.(Evil grin)

  49. Tom Welsh says:

    “In World War 2, the German Wehrmacht killed 27 million Russians”.

    Not quite. That is the figure given for total Soviet deaths. While most of them may have been Russian, all the other SSRs made their contribution. Including, let’s not forget, Ukraine, which took much of the brunt of the war.

    This slight quibble – purely in the interests of strengthening mr Whitney’s argument by removing any small flaws – in no way weakens his argument.

  50. Tom Welsh says:

    “What will it take for the American people to see what’s going on right before their eyes?”

    To be quite frank, I don’t think the US people care at all what happens to foreigners unless it involves harm to themselves. And they are too ignorant to see that it does.

    • Agree: JR Foley
  51. Tom Welsh says:

    “The elites want war because they see no other way to preserve the western-centric world order”.

    So, basically:

    “We had to destroy the world in order to protect it”.

    • Agree: MarkU, Old and Grumpy
    • LOL: profnasty
    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  52. Trinity says:

    Skimmed this boring article and couldn’t locate the words Jew, Khazar, Zionist, genocide of Whites, etc.

    Throw this useless misinformation-disinformation concocted (((horseshit))) into the round file next to Alex Jones and Jared Taylor.

  53. Notsofast says:
    @GMC

    completely agree, they are trying to recreate ww2 but with the western allies joining the axis powers against russia and china. they are doing their best to push china into the fray and at some point they’re going to get what they’re after. the russians have been purposefully reserved in their military operations not wanting to tip their hand (i don’t think they’re even using the s400 let alone s500’s) and china has also been quite reserved in their own response to the endless provocations but with the solomon islands deal they seem to have touched a very painful nerve with the new natzo fived eyed monster. interesting times we live in, these neocon pinheads should be careful what they ask for, they may not like what they get.

    • Agree: GMC
  54. @RestiveUs

    What wasn’t mentioned in the article is that Germany’s economy is about to be destroyed by making it sanction Russia with a destroyed economy Germany won’t be building much of an army

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  55. Malla says:
    @Contraviews

    Because they had hoped that the Wehrmacht would defeat the Russians.

    Yes, and they were making sure that the Wehrmacht would defeat the Soviets by providing the USSR with enormous landlease aid. And by secretly attacking German submarines to trigger a German mistake like Lusitania to bring instigate the American people to a war Germany. Since Germany did not take bait, they tried Japan. The Americans also helped the Germans by having Soviet spies in top positions in the US Government like Alger Hiss. Genius Plan!

    • Agree: Thirdtwin, Dream, Curmudgeon
    • Replies: @Thirdtwin
  56. anon[365] • Disclaimer says:

    Langley occupies Germany with 30,000 troops. Langley has their Green wogs blackmailed with pedo factions, paralyzed with pointless controversy and bribed up the ass.

    https://www.dw.com/en/pedophilia-scandal-entangles-german-greens/a-16836153

    Germany does what Langley says. BND’s a minor branch of DO and they run the little satellite for Cohen.

  57. MarkNiet says:

    I’m trying to find a suitable adjective for this article. Pathetic maybe…

  58. profnasty says:

    Debt is Slavery. White America is enslaved.
    They just can’t see, can’t understand. They not see.
    “Washington” is pushing White America towars the fire. Closer and closer you go.
    Do you think your AR-15 will make you free. More likely it will make you dead.
    Organization is the key to success. There will be a bounty on lone wolves.
    Ukraine is our future; if we’re lucky.
    Buffalo, the final day for William McKinley, my be the start of something big.
    Register, insure, tax, surrender: Your AR.
    A race war, like Ukraine, may be in the cards. It’s all up to the owner of the Casino.
    You have nothing to say in the matter.
    Best bet? Get to know your County Sheriff.

  59. Feb 19, 2022 Zelensky said he wanted Ukraine to be a nuclear nation.
    Feb 19, 2022 US Vice President Kamala Harris at the Munich Security Conference said “Ukraine should join NATO.”
    Feb 22, 2o22 Putin “We’re goin’ in.”

  60. Anonymous[670] • Disclaimer says:

    What a dumb article. Completely wrong in even the most basic facts, absolutely useless as an analysis of the German position which is actually the direct opposite of what the author claims.
    Even as piece of propaganda this is completely barking up the wrong tree. Germany more than any other European country would have wished to defuse this conflict as soon as possible because it can literally gain nothing from it.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    , @Badger Down
  61. Hitch says:
    @Malla

    You forgot the part about how the greens are really just closet communist zombies who have been brainwashed by Jewish AGW propaganda. Just one example of the magnitude of their cognitive dissonance is the fact that these Gaia loving, nature worshipping morons have become lovers of mRNA gene therapy injections produced by the same big industries they profess to despise and the same big governments they used to hold mass demonstrations against.

    There was a time when the greens were anti-war and anti-despotism. No more. The greens are now war mongering big government thugs, and the German greens are the worst of the bunch, and the biggest idiots to boot.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter, Malla
  62. Harry Law says:

    Mike Whitney…” What Washington really wants is a subjugated Russia languishing permanently beneath Uncle Sam’s boot heel.
    Correct Mr Whitney, what you missed out was.. and then pivot to China to subjugate them. Good luck with that.
    What NATO do not understand is Russia is self sufficient in oil and Gas, food and other vital commodities, has more nuclear weapons than the US and has the backing of 80% of the other countries of the world including China, India, Iran plus all the countries under illegal sanctions by the US and its vassals. This will end in tears for the EU who will starve, freeze and lose their economies. serves them right

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  63. profnasty says:
    @Kali

    Did you mean SHEOL?
    It’s a dark subterranean place where evil men are relegated post mortem.

    • Replies: @Kali
  64. MarkU says:
    @VertigoPerspectiveX

    You have fallen for that Suvorov garbage? Lol.

    There was no way the USSR was anything like ready to take on the Third Reich, they had enough trouble fighting the tiny Finnish nation in the winter war only a couple of years earlier. Maybe in the long term Stalin had aggressive designs (It is hard to read the mind of a dead man) but he would have known that the entire western world would have been against him if he ever made any real headway against the Germans. Any differences would have been rapidly patched up and troops from the US, UK, France, Spain etc would have joined the Axis forces to fight communism. Stalin was many things but he was not stupid or naive, he knew perfectly well which side the allies would have joined and he was well aware of the shortcomings of the Red army.

    Suvorov was a defector, a traitor to his homeland, who made a living writing whatever drivel his new masters and protectors wanted to hear, which was anti-USSR propaganda. The guy was just a shameless sell-out who ended up writing pro-Nazi rubbish in Kiev.

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  65. Considering what the Red Army did during its visit to Germany, and what Stalin did to civilians in “East” Germany and to the millions of Wehrmacht men held as slave laborers after the army surrendered, it must be satisfying to be able to even up the score, even if in such a tiny way. And it has got to be sweet too to repay the arrogant upstart Ukies who betrayed their wartime alliance with the Reich, and who have no option today but to be killed in large numbers in a war they cannot hope to win.

    Our misfortune is that we no longer have republican leaders with the wisdom of Thomas Jefferson, who advised in his second inaugural address, “You will do what is right, leaving the people of Europe to act their follies and crimes among themselves, while we pursue in good faith the paths of peace and prosperity.”

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  66. MarkU says:
    @meamjojo

    A song for you and all the other deep state shills on this thread.

    You probably don’t even get a place in a nuclear bunker for your efforts. If by some chance you do, good luck with your new life of subsistence farming and the new cancer rate. Shame there will be nowhere left to spend your money.

  67. sb says:
    @Zachary Smith

    By Germany we mean the Federal Republic of Germany .
    So called German unification was about the former DDR ( often called East Germany ) joining an existing country ( just like Saar had done previously )
    No new country was formed . Existing treaties and alliances were not altered

  68. Hitch says:
    @animalogic

    West Germany joined then.
    Germany “joined” in 6/1991

    Nope.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_reunification#Process_of_reunification

    German reunification (German: Deutsche Wiedervereinigung) was the process in 1990 in which the German Democratic Republic (GDR; German: Deutsche Demokratische Republik, DDR) became part of the Federal Republic of Germany (FRG; German: Bundesrepublik Deutschland, BRD) to form the reunited nation of Germany.

    That’s right, there was no new nation formed by the “merging” of two countries. Instead East Germany became a part of West Germany.

    German Reunification Treaty

    The two original copies of the Unification Treaty signed on 31 August 1990. West German Interior Minister Wolfgang Schäuble signed for the FRG and the East German State Secretary Günther Krause signed for the GDR.
    The Volkskammer, the Parliament of East Germany, passed a resolution on 23 August 1990 declaring the accession (Beitritt) of the German Democratic Republic to the Federal Republic of Germany, and the extension of the field of application of the Federal Republic’s Basic Law to the territory of East Germany as allowed by article 23 of the West German Basic Law, effective 3 October 1990.[17][18][19] This Declaration of Accession (Beitrittserklärung) was formally presented by the President of the Volkskammer, Sabine Bergmann-Pohl, to the President of the West German Bundestag, Rita Süssmuth, by means of a letter dated 25 August 1990.[19] Thus, formally, the procedure of reunification by means of the accession of East Germany to West Germany, and of East Germany’s acceptance of the Basic Law already in force in West Germany, was initiated as the unilateral, sovereign decision of East Germany, as allowed by the provisions of article 23 of the West German Basic Law as it then existed.

    The Stasi was broken up, and there were long debates about prosecuting them for their Judeo-communist crimes against Germany. This was one of the biggest of Germany’s mistakes in the last 50 years. Of course the West German politicians who had been taking bribes from the USSR and the East for decades were afraid that too much truth might leak out.

  69. “Bravo, Vladimir.”

    I will bravo Vlad when Russia rapes Germany as it’s longing to be molested by wanting to start the WWIII but why are Poles so gung-ho knowing fully well that they’re going to lose Gdansk aka Danzig.

  70. Malla says:
    @Karl from Germany

    There is channel on youtube about life in the USSR by an ex Soviet citizen, Sergei Sputnikov from the Ushanka Show.

    The Great Patriotic War That Comrade Stalin Was Not Ready For #ww2

    Even he believes that Stalin was ready to invade Western Europe and the theory that “Stalin was taken by surprise and not ready” as bullshit. The USSR was far better armed & prepared than what the rest of Europe had, before Barbarossa.
    And especially check out 7:35 minutes where he talks about Stalin’s indications of desiring a United Soviet European Union. Stalin was also not happy with the results of the war (8:35 minutes), since he got only half of Europe, not full, which he had initially wanted. The victory parade was never celebrated after the first time, the May 9 victory parade culture of WW2 was started in the USSR much later by Brezhnev, not even Khrushchev!! Brezhnev personally loved parades.

    Stalin was born in Ossetia, Georgia on the borders of Europe and Asia. Stalin was extremely pragmatic and knew that the third world was shit full of shit people, Europe was where it was at. Europe was the prize for socialism. That is why under Stalin there was far less support of Third World “liberation movements” than Trotsky or Khrushchev after him.

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  71. In spite of all the gloom and negative sentiments on Russia, Mike Whitney ends his piece with an upbeat and incomprehensible “Bravo Putin”. The question that goes begging and one that others here may want to weigh in on is: why has Russia failed to bring their operation to a quick conclusion when they had the upper hand? How could they be duped so easily into taking an eternity to allow for the “safe passage of civilians” at the Mariupol plant when in fact Zelensky was using that as a delaying tactic? Putin needs to be much more resolute than he has been in bringing the Euro Zionist to his knees or brace himself for a long and agonizing war, with time barely on his side.

    • Agree: Kali
    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
  72. Malla says:
    @Kurt Knispel

    Germany is gone. Rejoice.

    But once Germany was awesome.

    Check out how these simple Indian villagers/tribals react to video of Berlin of the 1930s. Check out their final verdict at the end. For them it looked like paradise with happy people. They remark about the happiness of the people in 1930’s Berlin.


    Villagers/ Tribals React To A Day in Spectacular Berlin in the early 1930’s in colour !

  73. @Malla

    It’s a comedy world if you think the Russian Federation today is “Stalinist”, communist, or totalitarian.

    • Replies: @Malla
  74. AndrewR says:
    @Anonymous

    How exactly is sending weapons to Ukraine defusing the conflict

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  75. AndrewR says:
    @Zachary Smith

    It is beyond time for a coup in Germany. Are there no officers willing to save their land and prevent WW3?

  76. @Observator

    So it’s Germans who have the right to hate and want revenge against RUSSIANS for WW2?? Please re-read what you have apparently written.

    • Replies: @Hitch
    , @coolhand850
  77. Jim H says:

    ‘What Washington really wants is a subjugated Russia languishing permanently beneath Uncle Sam’s bootheel.’ — Mike Whitney

    … just like occupied Germany: 77 years and counting.

  78. Bookish1 says:

    I get the feeling that beneath all the bullshit that is happening in Germany are the real Germans, the teutons of old, who are just waiting for the day when they can break loose of the sick, liberal dominance that has been lording over them since the end of ww2. The Germans have been dominated by a cultural and intellectual inferior nation and the Germans know it and are sick of it. They have been too patient. I hope that they gain their freedom soon.

  79. ariadna says:

    Sorry to see Whitney tarnish his record by publishing such garbage.

    “How many Russians have to die to satisfy Germany’s bloodlust?”

    So it all comes down to the recrudescence of “German militarism,” eh?
    Pathetic Germany, with its spine long broken, undergoing population replacement, being deindustrialized and and destroying its economy, is now fitted for a warrior costume to play little brother bully in the US image: no economy except for war to ‘defend democracies’

  80. Thirdtwin says:
    @Malla

    Not to mention the obscene losses in men and equipment in the daylight bombing of Germany.

    • Agree: Malla
  81. @HeebHunter

    If you are older than 19 yrs, I really feel sorry for you. ‘Bolshevik subhuman hordes’? Yeah, you’ve got the right answer to this problem.

  82. eah says:

    As with many things today, the problem is increasingly fanatical secular moral absolutism.

    Germany is sometimes derisively referred to as the Moralweltmeister, e.g. for its Flüchtlings- und Klima-politik — in the current Western secular moral canon, Russia is evil — this has been enough to get Germany to abandon its longstanding taboo on taking sides or delivering weapons to one side in an active conflict.

  83. @Anon

    And like the good little Krauts they are, they will bend over and grab their ankles for their Anglo-Zionist masters.

  84. Anonymous[670] • Disclaimer says:
    @AndrewR

    It’s not that Germany is really in full control of its foreign policy. But military aid from Germany was given so reluctantly that Germany in pro-Ukraine forums is basically treated as a Russian ally, so the exact mirror image of the hysteric hyperbole this article employs.

  85. Is this the same Mike Whitney who’s published a variety of other articles here and elsewhere which, even if one disagreed with the policy direction, one could still credit them with important insight and meaningful research?

    I’m having a hard time believing it. Mr. Whitney: you are coming across here as a) unhinged, b) slipping from 0-1 to 60 over a an open chasm from generally operating in your lane to Pepe Escobar levels of pontificating wildly about subjects that – this being Pepe Escobar we’re comparing you to – you have no idea what you’re talking about. Escobar is like the extreme sports version of writing-without-knowing-what-he’s-talking-about , you should give this a try in the slow lane before moving into his league.

    Your other writing shows restraint here. What’s going on? Where’d the brakes go?

    And it’s all Gorbachev’s fault. The crisis Russia faces today, can be traced back to Gorbachev.

    What was he thinking? Was he thinking that NATO would honor its word and not “move one inch east” like they promised? Was he thinking Germany would not eventually ‘get back on its feet’ and resume its habitual march eastward? Was he thinking that leaders in the west had miraculously changed their spots and become more trustworthy, unselfish and peaceful?

    What a stupid, stupid man. Gorbachev’s breezy liberalism has brought NATO’s weapons systems and NATO’s shock troops to Russia’s doorstep.

    Bro: the USSR was broke.

    B – R – O – K – E

    Broke

    It means: there’s a thing, it’s called “hard capital” – the USSR ran out of it.

    You either understand that, or you don’t. What you’re writing here screams super loud: you have no idea what you’re talking about.

    So it’s just like the other commenters here : it starts with – stop talking about things, when you don’t know what you’re talking about.

    • Agree: peterAUS
  86. Marcali says:

    “In World War 2, the German Wehrmacht killed 27 million Russians. Isn’t that enough? How many Russians have to die to satisfy Germany’s bloodlust?”

    1. Russians or Red Army soldiers?
    „But we have a series of estimates, most of them working independently from one another. The figure of 27 million Soviet war death must therefore be taken as the minimum figure for military deaths, as opposed to the German figure of 2,416,784 killed and missing, this latter category including all prisoners of war, some of whom eventually returned alive from the Gulag.”
    (John Mosier: Deathride, Hitler vs. Stalin: the Eastern Front, 1941-1945, Simon & Schuster, 2010, p. 338.)

    2. Whose bloodlust are we talking about?
    Crimean Front: „On 2 March, Mekhlis (the highest ranking Jew in the Red Army) launched his ’big music’ in a fiasco that proved to be the insane apogee of terror applied to military science. He banned the digging of trenches ’so that the offensive spirit of the soldiers would not be undermined’ and insisted that anyone who took ’elementary security measures’ was a ’panic monger’. All were ’mashed into a bloody porridge’.” There goes an army group of 250,000 men.
    (Simon Sebag Montefiore: Stalin, the Court of the Red Tsar, Phoenix, 2003, p. 421.)

  87. Kali says:
    @profnasty

    Did you mean SHEOL?
    It’s a dark subterranean place where evil men [of the zionist empire of lies] are relegated post mortem.

    I do hope so, prof! As long as the necromancers go there too, and every evil man stays dead!

    Thanks for the addition to my vocab’, which sent me on an interesting foray into the Encyclopedia Britanica. A welcome relief from the current news cycle.

    Fond regards,
    Kali.

  88. nsa says:

    The Resource Wars have begun. The Russian Federation spans 11 time zones and sits atop 1/4 to 1/3 of the world’s resources…if they can resist the globo-zio-homo empire and hold on to their resources. Time to nuke Berlin and dare any zio-nato-globohomo state to respond in kind? Best guess…..nuclear armed western elite globo-zio-homos would wring their hands but not risk their own gravy trains. And then, almost everyone hates the pathetic masochistic krauts and would secretly rejoice their nuking.
    What ever happened to AuthenticJazzMan? Did the old German hating coot die on us?

  89. anon[138] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s because Germany is basically controlled by Jews, who run all the media, banks, big pharma, big retail, education system, just like in the US. Even if not directly controlling the political parties, they control them indirectly from behind the scenes.

    Angela Merkel at least had some backbone and wanted close relations with Russia due to being from East Germany, but she was brought down by being conned into taking in 1m Syrian refugees, urged by Jew owned media like The Economist, with the cover “Let Them In, and Let Them Work”, making it seem like it was all highly educated professionals coming out Syria, and Merkel stupidly bought it and ended up taking in all the Afghans, Moroccans etc. with no language or any skills, a move so unpopular it basically ended her political career.

    Olaf Sholz is a lawyer, hence a spineless puppet propped up by Jew puppet masters of Germany. Jews want their revenge against Putin, who seized assets from Jew oligarchs like Yukol’s Mikhail Khodorkovsky and nationalized it. Jews don’t take kindly to rulers who seize their oil, look at what they’re doing to Venezuela and Iran. Same stories there. They want to control all the oil in the world, because whoever controls the oil controls China and India.

  90. @confusedaswell

    Perhaps that’s why Germany, and other EU countries, are in such a hurry to begin the war on Russia. Germany has only a precious few months before winter sets in. They need to act before their newly impoverished people start freezing to death, proceed to take up pitchforks, and topple their globohomo, US-owned government. Once the NATO shooting starts its people will do just what Americans always do (and Germans did under Hitler) – rally ’round the flag, no matter the deliberate carnage the government is foisting on the people.

    On a slightly different matter, I’m not sure that RT has it right when it reports: “Finland … decided to reconsider their long-standing policy of non-alignment following a MAJOR CHANGE IN PUBLIC OPINION after Russia’s attack on Ukraine.”

    If public opinion had changed to such an extent after Russia’s justified incursion, then why didn’t the Finnish legislature permit a called for referendum, rather than place the NATO decision solely in their own greedy hands? Could it be that they were afraid they would lose the vote?

    • Agree: Notsofast, nokangaroos
  91. Anonymous[358] • Disclaimer says:

    I agree completely with you.Whitney has gone off the deep end on this one. Germany has been very reluctant to get involved. But on this site you have many lovers of the russian monkey men. I think a lot of the clowns that support the russian knuckle walkers hope the,russians will be their salvation.What a joke!

    • Replies: @Malla
  92. sonofman says:

    After Gerhard Schroeder, Germany became Eurmany (bis auf Bayern), the prototype example for countries envisioned by the banking and corporate global government located in Brussels. The European Union has more debt than the United States. Even though they have significant influence and have created a third so-called uni-party (or deep state) the American people voted against the policy of making America into a nation of consumers only. Desperate to bring America back under control, their only conceivable strategy was to manipulate the vote. Mail in voting can only be legitimized by forcing people to stay home, i.e., locking down the economy because of a pandemic. But a pandemic that only affects Americans would be suspicious, so they used the benevolent guilt shamed Germans (Drosten PCR test) to convince everyone that a deadly virus (originating in economic power China) was a threat to the entire world (FYI, the symptoms characteristic to the Covid-19 sickness indicates an injected toxin).

    Ending the pandemic shortly after the increasingly obvious amateurish vote fraud would also be suspicious, so the medical industry used the opportunity to continue to make people sick (for profit), even children! But the deception and the utter loathing that they have for human beings, and the chaos and lost revenue caused by the untenable lockdowns, is becoming more recognizable with each day, and so now, a rug in which to cover their atrocities has been created; the threat of a nuclear conflict.

    With Eurmany once again leading the way, they want everyone to believe that Russia is bad, although they have legitimate security concerns. Remember those playground basketball courts when you were a kid, and everyone for some reason hassled the kid that owned the basketball, so he left and took the basketball with him? That’s the situation now in Europe. They have postponed Nordstream 2, but Eurmany continues to be the number one importer of natural gas (one third of which they sell to other countries at a profit) and Russia continues to honor the Nordstream 1 contracts, so if they continue to feign a gas shortage, it is obvious the price increase is to make up for the losses caused by governments deciding to lockdown their economies the last two years.

    There’s a hole in the bucket, an infinite loop of dumb ass decisions to cover dumb ass decisions. But don’t worry, even though it is a tragedy befallen on the Ukrainian people (wish more attention would be paid towards the other conflicts in the world) the threat of a nuclear genocide is alles Schall und Rauch. If there is any indication for what the future holds, Tom Brady has a ten year sports broadcasting deal, so eventually everything will get back to normal.

  93. The elite want war because it is good for business. Lots of dead unwashed is just bonus for them. Not sure how this will work out for them with the west no longer being producers, and diversity isn’t really good for creative thinking. Yet there will be lots of dead unwashed, so not all is lost especially looming great reset. However unless Putin and the Russians plan on putting the 1 percent crowd in the ground to feed Bill Gates beloved new food source, is any of this a bravo?

  94. @HeebHunter

    What a preposterous piece of bullshit.

    The Russians won the war because they are better warriors. They have perseverance and resilience and are prepared to make sacrifices. The Russians are closely related to the true, original Aryan people – not those like in the fake Nazi fantasies of the Germans, but the genuine people who spoke Sanskrit. The Russian language is related to Sanskrit.

    Whereas the Germans are Nazi fags and Queer Fascism proponents.

  95. @Zachary Smith

    …Germany joined NATO in 1955…

    Actually, although the Bundes Republik, West Germany, didn’t formally join NATO until 1955, the plan was laid out during NATO’s London and Paris Conferences of 1954. The USSR reacted to this ultimate provocation by forming the Warsaw Pact ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Pact).

  96. abllie says:

    The USA had no business in the war in Europe all they got out of it was Israel.

    • Agree: Trinity
  97. This is one of the more frightening pieces of analysis I’ve read regarding the USA/NATO/EU proxy war in the Ukraine. It suggests that the Zionist/neocons, who are currently using senile Joe Biden as their sock puppet, may actually be demented enough to push Russians into choosing between nuclear war and an abject surrender, which would necessarily include destruction of both Russia’s independence and Russian cultural identity. The result would surely be an escalating nuclear exchange which would eventually destroy Russia, Europe, and the USA.

    • Thanks: Agent76
  98. Hitch says:
    @RadicalCenter

    So it’s Germans who have the right to hate and want revenge against RUSSIANS for WW2

    Yes. The vast majority of Russians still lie about their behavior before, during and after the war, and they blame all Germans for defending Germany the same way Russia is in Ukraine today, so why can’t it be the other way around? Just consider their pathetic never ending obsession with the word “Nazi”. “Nazi” is an abbreviation for “National Socialist German Workers’ Party”. If you are not German, then you cannot be a “Nazi” by definition. There is no such thing as a “Ukro-nazi”. Ukro-American is far more accurate and fitting, especially since Americans are play toys and tools for the Jews just like the Ukrainians are, and unlike how the “Nazis” never were.

    • Agree: Petermx
    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  99. Nat X says:

    Herman used to be the toughest yts around. WW II emasculated them. I visited my cousin when he was stationed in Germany, 83-86, and you could buy a pretty German whore for 50DM whioch back then was about 15 dollars.

  100. And then there’s the World Hell Organization that just received global affirmation with world tyrants that W.H.O. (the World Hell Organization) will be the governing body on all future pandemics, so jab that in your azz you despicable anti-Vaxers, you will either submit or be denied all basic human rights should you disobey the World Hell Organization.

    Welcome to hell

    • Replies: @Notsofast
  101. Agent76 says:

    Mar 30, 2022 Antiwar NATO Soldier DESTROYS Justification For Ukraine War

    Former British soldier and war resister Joe Glenton uploaded a viral video to his YouTube channel describing his criticism of the warmongering by media and politicians over Ukraine, the serious threat of nuclear war and the widespread mischaracterization of NATO as a defensive alliance.

    April 23, 2022 U.S. and NATO Fuel War in Ukraine “To Make it Permanent”

    The news preceding the interview and Gagnon’s analysis confirm the seriousness of the situation. Having initiated with the 2014 coup in Kiev the sequence of events that led to the Russian military operation in Ukraine, the United States and NATO are doing everything they can to fuel this war in Europe, making it permanent.

    http://marktaliano.net/u-s-and-nato-fuel-war-in-ukraine-to-make-it-permanent-by-manlio-dinucci-and-bruce-gagnon/

  102. Ellinas says:
    @Anon

    Μr. Whitney,
    There is NO such state called Germany, today.
    Germany and the German people were destroyed totally on 1945.
    The geographical area people call euphemistically “germany” is nothing else but an israeli owned LLC.

    People of the World MUST understand this reality.
    To this extent, the same applies with the rest of Europe as well US, Canada, Australia and Japan.

  103. E_Perez says:

    In World War 2, the German Wehrmacht killed 27 million Russians. Isn’t that enough? How many Russians have to die to satisfy Germany’s bloodlust? Another million or so? 5 million? 27 million? How many?

    The only unz article I stopped reading after the first lines.
    What a hateful unbridled nonsense. He is as ignorant of history as of present politics.

    How can this author pass the quality control of unz.com ?

    • Agree: Wizard of Oz
    • Replies: @Fox
    , @Ellinas
  104. Bookish1 says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    Bullshit! You can stop dreaming and start dealing with reality. The Russians are not better warriors than the Germans. They don’t even compare to the Germans as they are in an inferior class to the Germans. If america wouldn’t have sent billions of dollars in equipment to the Soviets the Germans would have beaten them without much problem

    • Replies: @Here Be Dragon
  105. MLK says:

    Consider the following from the Finnish President Niinistö as speaking of the West generally and Germany even more so than Finland:

    Listen carefully [01:44] when President Niinistö explains why. Niinistö explains he did not, and does not, consider Russia a threat; however, “what we see now, Europe, the world, is more divided. There’s not very much room for ‘non-aligned,’ in-between. So that was also what we are thinking.” WATCH:

    Also see:

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/05/15/sunday-talks-finland-president-sauli-niinisto-indicates-a-global-cleaving-behind-decision-to-join-nato/#more-233090

    • Replies: @coolhand850
  106. Fox says:
    @E_Perez

    After reading the line “27 million…..” I read a bit on and then stopped also. This article is chock-full of ignorance of fact, of lack of insight and historical understanding, as well as of the political realities of the present “West”, and of who is pulling the strings in the “Democracies”.

    • Agree: Wizard of Oz
  107. Germany is under zionist control as is every western country that has a zionist privately owned bank , which is all of them and here in the ZUS it is the FED, this is the controlling element in the world and people just cannot or will not see it.

    Nathan Rothschild infamously said: I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England, for the man who controls the British empire is the man who controls the money supply and I am that man.

    A central bank and a progressive income tax are 2 of the 10 planks of the communist manifesto and the ZUS has both and both are unconstitutional.

  108. Ellinas says:
    @E_Perez

    E-Perez
    Although I did not read* the article, you are absolutely correct.
    ……………………………………………..
    *I do not read anything about “germany” written by someone who compares the pre-war Germany with the today degenerated SOB’s population, they live in this geographical area after the war.

    PS
    I use to love their football when I was a kid.
    Now listening to football news I vomit when I listen about this “german” player or the other “german” player and I see some negros from Africa playing for Bayern Munich

  109. do chere says:

    The US was the first to detonate an atomic bomb and got away with it. So, they believe they can do it again without any harm coming their way.This is terrifying and equally tragically misleading. Hopefully in the end some sense will prevail. To equate WWII Japan with today’s Russia would be totally suicidal. The Pentagon must be aware of this.

  110. Malla says:
    @Anonymous

    russian knuckle walkers

    Russian “knuckle walkers” like her?

    Russian Farm Girl Anastasie Vaskevich. Her mannerisms and demeanor are far far more civilized than most Western girls today. Most Western women today are monkeys compared to this Russian farm girl. And she seems very intelligent too.

    • Replies: @HeebHunter
    , @Dream
  111. It is amazing the well educated people who still try to convince themselves and others that Hitler and Germany were the bad guys in WWII. Complete nonsense. The Communist Soviet menace of terror, rape, and murder, infiltrating and moving West was the primary reason Hitler went to war; (ethnic Germans being savagely butchered in the Czech Sudetenland, as well as in Danzig by the Poles, all on orders from the Soviet evil). Not to mention France tormenting Germans in the Ruhr Valley, and Churchill refusing countless attempts of negotiation and any type of agreement to avoid war. His masters had spoken and he was made to beat the drum or else.

    “If the Poles, Czechs, French and anybody else thinks they will slaughter our people and deny them their human rights in any way, they are sadly mistaken. We will go get those rights for them.” – Adolph Hitler

    Western Europe should be on their knees thanking Germany for slowing the commie menace looking to destroy all of Christian civilization everywhere. Putin seems to be in nearly the exact same position that Hitler was in back in 1939. After eight years of trying to bring some sort of peaceful resolution to the ethnic cleansing of Russian speaking peoples in Donbass, he was left with no choice but to say enough.

    It’s unfortunate Putin does not recognize and aknowledge the evil perpetrated by his former Soviet Union. He would have people believe that the Soviet Union was the good guy and savior in WWII as well as Russia is now in the current conflict. That there makes me not want to get behind his cause this time around, even if he is clearly in the right. As long as he continues to proclaim the Germans were at fault in WWII and not his evil murdering countrymen led by Stalin Inc., he can go up in flames with Ukraine.

    It make little difference in the outcome anyway. He is playing his assigned part in the drama just like the rest of the minions. The result of the conflict or war was decided before it ever began. Both sides are controlled by the same entity. They will be the only winners as always, and everybody else will suffer.

  112. Agent76 says:
    @anno nimus

    Thank you for your share Nimus!

    Jesus replied: “’Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’

    https://biblehub.com/niv/matthew/22.htm

    Oct 11, 2020 LOVE LIKE JESUS

    Loving like Jesus is the best way to live. Jesus teaches us to love our neighbors and to become less selfish and more invested in those around us. Whenever we demonstrate kindness and patience, we see the Lord’s love at work through us.

  113. Skeptikal says:
    @Malla

    Well, it doesn’t seem to matter very much what Scholz’s “true” beliefs are.

    What matters is that he is basically a traitor to his country.

    When the nukes start flying westward, Germany—and maybe a few US nuke silos— will be at head of the queue.

    Well, maybe second in line.

    If it looks like an expanded war is on the menu, Putin will strike first.

    And the planned maneuvers look like a very loud announcement of actual “operational plans.”

    These ueber-provocative military maneuvers look like good opportunities for Russia to do some practicing of its own.
    Get into the scrum.
    Maybe the NATO “war-gamers” won’t be able to differentiate between the “real” and “fake” Russians!

    Like on 9/11. “War game” suddenly turns into the real thing.

  114. Bookish1 says:
    @Bookish1

    The Germans definitely are not living in their natural state. They need to kick some ass and they can start right in their own country.

    • Replies: @Derer
  115. Olaf Sholtz is a brainwashed dupe of the WEF, he asks no questions and just does what his superiors tell him to do. Just like his predecessor Merkel, it doesn’t matter to him how many Russians die or Germans for that matter. The end justifies the means, because he’s been told that after the smoke clears, he and all his WEF buddies will be flown down to some paradise island near Australia where his hair will grow back and there’s never ending sex orgies with frauleins, frauboys and the Jagermeister and Schnapps never stop flowing.

  116. “If music be the language of peace, play on”
    German music composers (Ludwig van Beethoven, Johann Sebastian Bach, and Richard Wagner) and Russian composers (Igor Stravinsky, Sergei Prokofiev, Sergei Rachmaninoff gave the world great music that elevated humanity and the arts.

    What we have today are nothing more than degenerate despicable cRap artist now rainbowing most every culture around the world, shitting on the greatest music ever written and turn us into aspiring rappaz who idolize white hating Magic Negroz and GlobalHomoZioBIGsRxMIC3 PIGs.

    If you are what you eat, then you are what you listen too.

  117. @Bookish1

    The Russians have always been better warriors than the Germans.

    The Germans did not even have a state of their own for the most part of their history. The Russians kicked their arses numerous times beginning with their failed crusades when their whole goddamn horde was drowned in a lake near Novgorod. The Germans were never good warriors. They have never won a real war not even once on their own.

    Whereas the Russians have fought a hundred wars against a lot stronger enemies and have lost only a handful of times, and even then – only temporary.

    List of wars involving Russia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Russia

    You bitches are always looking for an excuse. Was there also billions of dollars in equipment sent when the Russians crushed Napoleon?

    The war would have been won anyway, it might have taken more time but the result would not have been different. No aggression against the Russians on their own soil has ever been successful, except for the invasion of the Golden Horde of the Mongols and the Tatars who were also defeated in the end. So suck it.

  118. With his invasion of Ukraine, the great statesman Putin gave the western neocons the rope with which to hang him. And it won’t be done by a NATO or any other kind of invasion, as some simple-minded Russia backers are imagining. It will be done when Russians themselves tire of the pointless bloody war and the economic and geopolitical isolation it has brought Russia. Bravo Vladimir?

    • Replies: @Derer
  119. EugeneGur says:
    @Hitch

    there were millions of Russian soldiers sentenced to death by Stalin for having the audacity to surrender

    Why do you guy always invent something so completely idiotic? If millions of soldiers had been sentenced to death, the USSR would’ve had no army left.

    that armies from Finland, Spain, Hungary, Italy, Yugoslavia and Romania all participated in Barbarossa.

    No, they did not. Hungary and Romania, yes, Spain, no. La Division Azul does not amount to an army. Finland did participate in a limited way, mostly around Leningrad. Yugoslavia – no, my friend. Croatia did supply troops, whereas Serbia fought hard against the Nazis. But what does it matter, anyway? The driving force of the whole enterprise were the Germans.

    The real issue that very few pundits seem to realize is that Germany, like the UK, the US, Canada, Australia, France and all of the EU and all of Nato are merely provinces of ZOG.

    And whose fault is that? Easy to blame someone else – particularly someone unseen and unknown like “an unseen hidden hand” for your own actions.

    • LOL: Hitch
  120. @Karl from Germany

    Thanks Karl from Germany. From the American vantage point, it seems that so few Germans in Germany will speak up for Truth for Germany. I know it’s actually against the law in today’s Federal Republic. Hope to see more of you.

  121. @Tom Welsh

    His mistake was claiming that it is the “western-centric world order”. It isn’t. It is the finance capital world order.

    • Agree: peterAUS
  122. Notsofast says:
    @CelestiaQuesta

    russia has withdrawn from the council of europe and is about to drop out of the w.h.o. and the w.t.o. as well.

  123. neutral says:

    As Hitler said, Germany died with him. There was no Germany after 1945, just a jew run hellscape, which would eventually lead to a full genocide that the jews always intended.

  124. @MarkU

    You have fallen for that Suvorov garbage? Lol.

    There have been several books written by others, since the opening of the Soviet archives, that have come to the same conclusion. One, by John Wear, was in the e-books section here at Unz.
    The Stalinist show trials at Nuremberg, refused to allow the defendants access to the documentation, including the aerial photos of the Soviet build up that they grossly underestimated. Unfortunately, it seems you have fallen for the Soviet/Russian “Great Patriotic War” garbage.

    • Agree: HdC
  125. @Malla

    Europe was the prize for socialism.

    Other than this, good comment. Europe already had socialism in several countries before WWII. Communism is not socialism. The NSDAP has socialist tendencies as did Mussolini’s Italy, where a form of universal healthcare was implemented in 1921.

    • Replies: @Malla
  126. nsa says:

    Check out the Southfront videos of the mass surrender of the 2000 zio-nazi globohomo rats coming out of their Azovstal ratholes. Can’t goose step with a leg blown off. Can’t give the seig heil salute with an arm shot off. How will the western judenpresse spin this mass surrender…or will they just ignore it?

    • Replies: @TRM
  127. @Here Be Dragon

    Russia war record:

    Could not win a fight against themselves until the German Prince Rurik organized them as a nation.

    Loss against Mongols.

    Retreated against Napoleon until he ran out of food. Did not win any battles. Coalition victory after Wellington and Blucher defeated Napoleon in a real battle.

    Loss to Japan. The first European nation to lose against non-whites. America would later embellish this record.

    Loss to Jews and serfs.

    Loss to German Empire.

    Pyrrhic victory against mighty Finland.

    Pyrrhic victory against Germany with the help of 3 world empires striking the enemy’s rear.

    Victory against their province of Czechoslovakia.

    Loss to Afghanistan.

    Loss to themselves. End of the USSR.

    Currently struggling against their former province of Ukraine.

    • Replies: @Here Be Dragon
    , @Derer
  128. Malla says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Russian Federation today is “Stalinist”, communist, or totalitarian.

    When I meant Stalinist, I meant something else than totalitarian. I am talking about a kind of mentality which they inherited from the later Soviet Government, especially related to Culture. See, When the Russian Revolution just happened all kind of promiscuity and homo-ugly art are pushed on the conservative Russian population via ‘shock therapy’. This led to a lot of social problems for Soviet society. When Stalin won the power struggle, and Jewish power reduced via purges, this policy was reversed. A later movement came about known as the Social Realism moment. In other words, with time the USSR became more socially conservative and also more nationalistic. Even P.R. China has become nationalistic with time. In more other words, the USSR was becoming in some ways like N.S. Germany itself.
    Most of the Trotskyists ran away to the West, some of them later became neo-cons. From spreading “revolutions” throughout the World they moved to spreading “democracy” throughout the World.
    But the West was moving in the opposite direction, already before WW2, some cultural deterioration was taking place (hence the “Degenerate Art” criticized in the Third Reich) and there were Fabian Socialists already. But the fact that a revolution of the proletariat had not taken place in the West made some Marxists change their approach, they blamed traditional Western culture for preventing this revolution. This ideology was developed by Jewish Marxists in Frankfurt in the Frankfurt institute, but when Hitler came to power, they all scrammed in to the West like rats and brought their poison with them. So what was applied on the Russian population earlier by the Trotskyists via shock therapy was now being applied on the Western World via gradual ‘boil the frog method’.
    Now with respect to Russia, the Left is divided. Some leftists are supporting Russia + China w.r.t the USA some are against Russia + China. What is going on? The leftists supporting Russia + China re the old style commies, in their mind the Cold War is still on and they were expecting Capitalist USA to collapse, but instead when the USSR collapsed, they were in shock. so even if now Russia is not run by a Communist party and China though run by a Communist Party has been very Capitalist lately (Major N.E.P or New Economic Policy on steroids), the old style leftists still hope that the duo will bring down the USA. they are interestingly joined by far right White Nationalists, National Socialists etc….because they look at Russia as a White country with a nationalist leader, some of them look at China (or until recently looked) as a successor to Third Reich Germany with a good combination of Socialism and free market and because they hate their own anti-White governments where Corporate Capitalism + cultural Marxist combination is a toxic mix.
    But the other type of leftists, the Champaign socialists, the Cultural Marxists-Trotsyite types, they hate Russia and China. BTW this divide exists among the Liberal-Left in India too. They look at Russia and China as too conservative and see them not going with their MTV globo-homo culture or state sanction for this. For them Russia and China are Nazi countries. They look at these countries like they are incarnation of Nazi Germany + Imperial Japan + Fascist countries.
    Thus we see a divide in leftists itself. So I that is what I meant by Stalinist, the Social Realism movement, the movement towards cultural conservatism.

    • Thanks: RadicalCenter
  129. Malla says:
    @Curmudgeon

    You are right but what I meant Marxist Socialism. Socialism run by a Communist Party with the goal of (supposedly) move towards the end state of Communism.

  130. @Hitch

    This item first blames this massacre on the “red army.” Then it switches to “Allies.” Then to “a Russian detachment” and next “the Soviets.” It ends with the “Allies.”

    These types of unbelievable barbarities are only carried out by Slavs or Asians, and Slavs do have Mongol ancestry. They are never carried out by Western Allies, so I have to wonder why the term Allies was used. When we in the West use the term ‘Allies’ we’re usually specifying France, Britain, North America.
    Of course, the Western Allies looked the other way from everything their Russian ‘ally’ was doing. Maybe that’s worse.

  131. eah says:
    @Karl from Germany

    The decisions to send weapons to Ukraine was not made in Berlin, but in Washington.

    Absolut Schwachsinn.

  132. @Here Be Dragon

    I guess if you call 27 million dead winning, not to mention another 50 million or so from purges and famine. About 20 million of those 27 milllion Russians were killed by their own Soviet government not the German military. Communism murders its own wherever it has taken root. Something you can’t say about Fascism.

    Fascism is the preferred type of government for any nation state trying to protect its native people and history. It murders invading mongrels like the Soviet Union or anyone else trying to sew division(usually by way of Marxist Communism) inside its borders. but not its own ethnic people.

    Russian is still basically a third world country with a good military and strong leader in Putin. Something happens to him and what he worked so hard to build unfortunately will crumble rapidly. There isn’t anybody on the planet other than him that could handle that job. Whoever is his successor will be a downgrade.

    He seems to have done an admirable job stabilizing his country , but he’s still a rotten Communist at heart.

    • Troll: mulga mumblebrain
  133. anon[396] • Disclaimer says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    These are not Germans, they’re (((Germans))), like Zelenski:

    The most degenerate tribe on earth is leading the whole Western world down the abyss now that they run the world.

  134. Karl1906 says:

    The answer is easy. Germany is ruled by four “parties”* and their politicians who are all funded and controlled by the US state department. German politicians of any importance (e.a. from the ground up) are either corrupted, murdered, jailed or blackmailed into line. Most willingly comply. It’s a life without any risks. German population will believe ANY propaganda and another totalitarian state on German soil doesn’t bother the majority at all.

    * The “conservatives” from the CDU used to be big money slaves and shills for decades. They originated from the “centre party” who brought Hitler to power in 1933. Kohl and later Merkel turned it into a populist neocon voters club. The worst of the bunch but the one with the least degree of principles in the first place.

    * The “social democrats” of the SPD… the oldest party and also the one called “the traitor party”. It’s supposed to be “socialist” and “for the workers and lower class” but it never stuck to its principles in over 100 years and always betrays its clients. The most shameful of the bunch. Now also neocon and US puppets, like the CDU.

    * The openly eco-fashist Greens party, “Die Grunen”, started out as a split-up from the “leftist” SPD and collected the more extreme likes of anarchists and lunatics from the leftist fringe. So nobody took them seriously. Yet, in the 1990s the German majority of voters had enough of corrupt Kohl and his cronies and decided to vote them into office(s). Big mistake. Joseph Fischer, a prolific power monger without any ethics or principles, turned the party into another neocon US-puppet. He called that “able for governing” (“regierungsfahig”). Now the same bunch as the CDU, maybe with the most rabid of the willing tools of the state department. Also runs the most incompetent politicians for office as any merit-based system is considered “racist, sexist and misogynist”.

    * The “liberal” (read: libertarian, not US-meaning “leftist”) party FDP always was a bad joke. It started out in 1949 as a collection of some of the worst former Nazi-state officials and collaborators allowed to return into political office (read: even worse than the CDU). The party helped the corrupt CDU over decades to remain in power. With the raise of the Greens in the 1990s the FDP basically became obsolete. It never had any principles and it’s basically the same bunch of corrupted bastards as the CDU. Also neocons.

    So, here’s the deal with the Germans. The population is under propaganda-sedation (come autumn most likely vaxxed and micro-managed to death for the “great reset”) and the politicians are run by the US empire in its death throws, with Alzheimers and terminal corruption determining its course. This Germany always used to be a puppet state and is now turning into a Third World puppet state and balkanised. The British wanted it, the Americans continued it and the German politics obeyed it.

  135. “All restrictions imposed on Germany after the world war are to be removed.”

    Of course, there will be no freedom speech or opinion, the German chancellor is still going to be Washington’s lackey, and there will be no freedom either to be anything else than a faggot or tranny. All other restrictions will be removed. In particular any restriction to abide by the constitution (aka Basic Law) or applicable law.

  136. @Alexandros

    First of all prince Rurik was a Varangian.

    The Russians had lost and then defeated the Mongols, had lost to Japan in the sea and then won on the land, never lost to the Germans but pulled out of the war to fight a civil war, demolished the Germans later, never lost to Afganistan. Never lost to anyone.

    French invasion of Russia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_invasion_of_Russia

    Napoleon’s army entered Russia with more than 450,000 men, more than 150,000 horses, around 25,000 wagons and more than 1,250 pieces of artillery. Only 120,000 men survived; as many as 380,000 died in the campaign.

    Learn history, bitch.

  137. @Malla

    Come on, you know exactly what kind of Russians people here despise and which Russians we like.
    Only a fucking braindead shill is fine with the hammer and sickle.
    WW2 was tragic, doesn’t mean that we have to bow to communism. Russia does itself a disservice when they keep worshipping the same commie fucks that brought them to spiritual and material ruin.

    Fuck communism. Fuck the Holohoax.

    • Replies: @Badger Down
    , @Malla
  138. @coolhand850

    Fascism is a political form of sadomasochism, a queer culture.

    • Replies: @coolhand850
  139. @coolhand850

    This. Russia will always remain intellectually, and spiritually inferior because of its stubborn adherence to communism.

    Just imagine trying to worship God and kike lenin at the same time. Oh wait, we don’t have to. The vatniks do it every day.

  140. @acementhead

    Gorbachev said, ‘We will take away your enemy’. Ergo Gorbie was an imbecile, or a traitor, because the USA would cease to exist without enemies. The whole world is the USA’s enemy, as we have seen since 1989.

  141. @Karl1906

    Joschka Fischer, as German Foreign Minister said, in 2006 as Israel was bombing Lebanon to rubble, that a couple of missiles hitting Haifa in retaliation was ‘crossing a red line’. VERMIN.

    • Replies: @Karl1906
  142. Germans – kind of slow. Lose WWI then WWII. What the &(*( do they expect to come of this?

  143. @Carolyn Yeager

    “…These types of unbelievable barbarities are only carried out by Slavs or Asians, and Slavs do have Mongol ancestry…”

    Lord Wikipedia has different information:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_of_the_Wehrmacht

    As for Slavs having Mongol ancestry, same can be said of many Germans.

    Some examples:

    A very mongolic looking Heinrich Himmler:
    A 100% mongolic looking Konrad Adenhauer:
    Mongolic traits recognizable in Ludwig Erhard:
    Even your sacred hero Adolf Hitler displayed unmistakingly mongolic traits in this youth portrait. See those broad flat cheekbones and mongolic eyes:
    Attila the Hun would be proud if he could see his invasion in the 4th century still having its genetic effects.

  144. Malla says:
    @Karl1906

    The British wanted it, the Americans continued it

    But the U.K and USA are turning Third World + balkanised too.

    • Replies: @Karl1906
  145. Miro23 says:
    @Hitch

    The real issue that very few pundits seem to realize is that Germany, like the UK, the US, Canada, Australia, France and all of the EU and all of Nato are merely provinces of ZOG.

    They do realize, but they also have to follow ZOG propaganda rules.

    So basically it’s a war between organized Jewry led by the Kagan/Nuland neocons (plus their WEF/Davos associates) and Russia, led by Putin. Putin crossed them in Syria, chased them out of Russia (jailed Khodorkovsky) and preempted their invasion of Eastern Ukraine. He also uncovered indisputable evidence of their bio-warfare aggression.

    No wonder they hate him. They’re in the habit of smashing to pieces any person/organization/country that opposes them and have a freaky blind arrogance that isn’t going to change.

    China is next in line for ZOG “regime change” .

    The Chinese are aware of the threat and are fast building up their nuclear forces. They have the option of an open military alliance with Russia or, for a start, just shutting down exports to the US. They provide half the things that keep the US functioning (try removing Chinese made products or components from the average US home or business).

    • Replies: @Hitch
  146. nickels says:

    Europeans are dumber than sh*t.
    Have been all my life.
    Not sure why but they are gayer than f**ck and dumber than sh**t.

    Its just one of those things.

    Americans are quickly bringing up the rear, but at least there is still a flame of brains carried by a few.

  147. @Bookish1

    – I would say the potential for snapping out of National Masochism is
    still there; but the Enemy can always play on deeply implanted European
    fears. Everybody – and with the exception of Austria and Finland that means
    everybody – who lives on German money has a vested interest in
    continuing the status quo.

    It will take a major crash.

    • Replies: @Bookish1
  148. Derer says:

    The post war Germany is ruled by those who were able to create ingenious hoax of misplaced victimhood culture. The laws were even created to penalize those that doubting or question the hoax fake evidence. Recollection of 30 mil Russians killed by Germans is not on their mind. The recent events against Russians or participation in Serbia bombing are clear indication of that. The silent majority of Germans will eventually learn the hard way what their inaction caused.

    • Replies: @Avery
    , @Malla
  149. @MLK

    What he wanted to say is I would love to give my support to Vladimir Putin and his cause, but it would be political suicide for Finland if I did that. In a perfect world Finland would have rightly allied with Germany in WWII as well, if it were only a question of right and wrong. Unfortunately, might makes right. Finland has no choice but to align itself with NATO. Simo Hayha is not around to protect them anymore.

  150. @Carolyn Yeager

    The Slavonic peoples, whom ignorant American inbreeds like you call Slavs, do not have any Asiatic ancestry and are far more European, both in their culture and in appearance, than degenerated inbreeds from the United States.

    And of the Slavonic peoples, the Russians are the closest to the Indo-European ancestors of all the European peoples, according to both linguistic studies and genetic studies alike.

    Speaking of barbarities, the amount of unthinkable cruelties that the British and the German peoples committed throughout the history is unmatched anywhere else but in the Spanish inquisitors’ torture chambers.

    Even after the Germans had split from the Catholic Church the burning of women continued, and in Britain they had a special version of it called the saddle when a woman was seated on a wooden saddle on the top of the stake.

    Even the Slavonic nations who were Catholic did not commit that kind of barbarities, or did it a lot less than savage and deranged Anglo-Saxon faggot gang of thugs. Let alone the Orthodox Christian nations – such things were exceptional.

    Were that the Slavonic barbarities, when the American generals were distributing smallpox infected blankets among the native Americans? Were that the Russians who bombed Dresden and Hamburg? You ignorant bitch.

    Next time the Russians should use nukes and wipe out this Nazi germ off the face of the Earth forever.

  151. Derer says:
    @Alexandros

    So why such a diabolic propaganda (fear), including yours, against such an insignificant country that Russia is?

    • Replies: @Alexandros
  152. @Here Be Dragon

    It is a bit hard to debate someone who believes Sergei Eisenstein and
    wikipedia are the apotheosis of history.
    For the record, Aleksandr Newskij murdered his father and brother and
    sold the realm to the Tatars just to keep the throne, and the battle on Lake Peipus
    never happened (indeed Eisenstein took his inspiration from the assault
    on Schlüsselburg, the history of which is as damning of bolshevism as any).

    • Replies: @Here Be Dragon
  153. @Franklin Ryckaert

    This is true and explains the less than perfect relationship between Nordics and Germans. The former have always viewed the latter as somewhat degenerate with elements of Tartar barbarity. The very name of Germany itself (Deutschland) has, in my opinion, its origins in this mixture. The root is “twix” which could possibly be related to “mix”. The story told is the German race was created by Dutch exiles and criminals mating with Tartar women to the East. The same can be said for the British Isles.

    That being said the Nordic element is still dominant in the German population. The same can not be said of the Slavs. So while the Germans have some barbaric elements in their DNA they were still left wide eyed at the brutality of the Slavs. Specialized units such as the Dirlewanger battalion. which was made up of German criminals and shirkers, did manage to make the fight for depravity more even, but that was only a small part of the German armed forces.

    This did not take place with Attila though. The process was begun long before that. Possibly the Yamnaya peoples was the first or among the first incursions of Mongolians into Europe, some thousands of years BC. The legend of Odin, or Wotan, might also be related to this event. The principal deity of these people appear to have been Thor.

  154. Avery says:
    @Derer

    {Recollection of 30 mil Russians killed by Germans is not on their mind. The recent events against Russians or participation in Serbia bombing are clear indication of that.}

    Well said.

    btw: Germany was one of the behind-the-scenes instigator of the criminal bombing of Yugoslavia (Serbs) and the behind-the-scenes facilitator of the creation of the criminal entity called “Kosovo”. A drug-dealing, sex-slave trafficking, murdered Serbs organ-trafficking enterprise.

    The darling of the NATO/West so-called “President” Hashim Thaci was finally indicted by his sponsors in the West on war crimes charges. I guess he went off his leash, and became too enterprising for NATO’s comfort.

    [Allegations of organ-trafficking against the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) – the rebel movement that Mr Thaci led – were first set out by a former Hague war crimes prosecutor, Carla del Ponte in 2008. The EU-backed court was set up to investigate the claims.] (BBC)

    Germans committing war crimes against Serbs is nothing new: I guess they still have fond memories of their Ustaše allies from their Nazi days.

  155. @Derer

    Western propaganda is always diabolical. They came out guns blazing against Trump who was nothing but a bend over for Jews. Same can be said for Putin who has never done anything for the common people and is also extremely cozy with Jews. His only “crime” in the eyes of the West is not embracing faggotry full stop, but the same can be said for a number of countries the West are friendly with. There is nothing “Hitlerian” going on here. Every step of this war has advanced the globalist agenda.

    If I were to guess this is not a real conflict at all. The intensity of the propaganda is only meant to convince people the conflict is real.

  156. @Contraviews

    “Why did the US enter the the war so late in 1944?”

    Well, the Germans hadn’t bombed Pearl Harbor yet.

    • Replies: @HdC
  157. Hoyeru says:

    if Putin hadn’t wasted 20 years trying to be pals with the West and pretty much giving them gas and oil for for free thus supporting their economies instead of creating a real military alliance with China this wouldn’t be going on.
    Fuck this shit, the same thing over and over.

  158. @Justrambling

    ” why has Russia failed to bring their operation to a quick conclusion when they had the upper hand? ”

    Objection, asked and answered, a millions times here and elsewhere (other than the MSM).

    Amber Heard’s judge: Sustained.

    “How could they be duped so easily into taking an eternity to allow for the “safe passage of civilians” at the Mariupol plant when in fact Zelensky was using that as a delaying tactic? ”

    Objection, leading, compound, lack of foundation.

    Amber Heard’s judge: Sustained.

    • LOL: Petermx
  159. ko says:

    And beginning around 2016, under Trump, begins to arm the Ukraine, ???

    No, before that with barry sotero

  160. Petermx says:
    @RestiveUs

    The situation is apparently too complicated for Mike Whitney to understand. Other articles he’s written have shown that too. Anyone that thinks there is a “reemergence of German militarism” is obviously out of his league writing on this subject, assuming he’s serious. There is no indication he is joking.

    What he refers to as “German militarism” is the false narrative victorious allied nations imbued into history books to hide their own warmongering and militarism that led to two world wars. I wish Germany was “militaristic” to the degree its governmental policies represented its own interests. I would recommend two “militaristic” changes in German government policies to start things off. End the censorship laws in Germany upholding allied lies that people like Mike Whitney have swallowed hook, line and sinker. Stop bowing to foreign countries like Israel (Jews in general), Poland and the US that speak in an accusatory and hostile manner towards Germany constantly. Greatly improve relations and trade with Russia which would greatly improve not just Germany and Russia’s economies but all of Europes.

    If Germany had any independence at all, they would do these things and it might have prevented Russia from feeling they needed to attack Ukraine to protect their own interests. It would also prevent pissants like Finland and Sweden from acting up. It might also completely change the balance of power if Europe’s biggest economy was allied with or at least refused to act against Russia and China.

    • Agree: Fox, Hitch, HdC, bike-anarkist
    • Replies: @Dr. Charles Fhandrich
  161. @Here Be Dragon

    Thankfully I no little about sadomasochism or queer culture other than it is a Marxist Communist invention meant to corrupt the moral foundations of Christian culture. Fascism is the very weapon required to counteract such filth. It is one of the primary reasons it was developed as a governing philosophy to begin with. Created to smash all forms of debauchery that seek to undermine the health of any society they are given free reign in.

    Fascism believes every individual has the right to his or her own self determination as long as its pursuit does not hurt the culture, traditions, standards, and overall belief system agreed upon by the majority of inhabitants common to that place. Fascism is true democracy because its adherents normally constitute 80-90% agreement on all important issues(normally only possible in relatively homogeneous cultures).

    This is unlike the kind of democracy common to the Western world in which a 45% majority may take away the rights of the remaining 30% who are opposed, as well as those of the 25% who are neither for or against either. This type of structure is only good at ultimately creating division, as history has proven.

    • Replies: @Here Be Dragon
  162. JR Foley says:
    @anno nimus

    Satan lives through England and USA —–“walking up and down the earth and all that is it” ” father of lies and murder” ” a liar and murderer since the beginning” —-ALL fits the same pattern–

  163. @Franklin Ryckaert

    The picture of Heinrich Himmler looks especially oriental with him wearing those Mr. Moto glasses, but then anyone who wears glasses like that looks like they’re oriental. As for the last picture, that’s a youthful photo of Adolph Wong the last mayor of Shanghai before the commies took over.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Revusky
  164. How many Russians have to die to satisfy Germany’s bloodlust?

    I agree with the general thrust of the article but this is nonsense. Germans have no animosity towards Russia, let alone a bloodlust. In any event Germany has no agency being, for reasons unclear to me, a mere satrap of the USA, carrying out even the most self-destructive measures on American orders. This has been ongoing since the end of WW 2.

    While making no claims to be a geopolitical strategist I cannot understand why Putin didn’t apply the economic sanctions before taking the military option. Had he done so he’d have held the high moral ground and given Europe the excuse to bring Ukraine to heel. He could also have taken out with precision weapons the biolabs and the Ukrainian artillery position shelling Donbas. Would this not have made more sense?

  165. @nokangaroos

    You are that stupid Finn or Estonian who was telling me how the Russians are Asiatic and all that?

    You clown, keep reading fake alternative history because in the real one you are a bunch of fishermen, who failed to make a contribution to the world, either in science or in culture. A bunch of envious losers.

    The Chronicle of Novgorod is an authentic historical document and the battle is mentioned in it.

    • LOL: nokangaroos
    • Replies: @Marcali
  166. Renoman says:

    The F-ing Germans AGAIN! As Basil Faulty said “Remember the WAR! the west are a bunch of greedy brainwashed “Broke” lunatics. They think War will put a chicken in every pot, yes a red hot deep heated chicken to solve the great over population problem. Covid was a start but it’s too slow and they are afraid of the law suits when the poison Vax kicks in. Either way, we are screwed and by sleepy Joe, oh the shame of it all.

  167. EugeneGur says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    These types of unbelievable barbarities are only carried out by Slavs or Asians, and Slavs do have Mongol ancestry. They are never carried out by Western Allies

    Are you for real? I am hardly ever surprised at anything the Western people do or say but sometime this is just too much. Setting aside for the moment what the Russians allegedly did, weren’t that the “Western allies” who bombed the hell out of Dresden, Cologne, and a host of other German cities? Fried hundreds of thousands in Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Mind you, these were all attacks essentially against the civilians. This is common knowledge, so even you could’ve hardly missed that information.

    • Replies: @Alexandros
  168. @Anonymous

    Well not nothing: now Germans can wear swastikas with pride.

  169. TRM says:

    #TradeForAssange

    Come on Vlad. Think about how pissed the USA & UK would be if you demanded Assange be part of any trade. It’s the only chance the guy has to see daylight a free man again. Let Julian & Edward hang out together in Moscow.

    #TradeForAssange

    • Agree: Skeptikal
  170. @Here Be Dragon

    The Russians prevailed in that particular war because of massive land mass, massive population whom were sacrificed, willingly or not, massive western assistance and the season called winter. They put up an impressive fight and won but they weren’t the superior fighting force of the day.

    • Agree: Bookish1
    • Replies: @Here Be Dragon
    , @HdC
  171. Skeptikal says:
    @Harry Law

    “What NATO do not understand is Russia is self sufficient in oil and Gas, food and other vital commodities”

    Actually, this is the one point that NATO understands very well.

    Especially the grifters of the USA.

    They want stuff from Russia without having to pay for it.

    Like people who loot from stores.

    Indeed, they would like to loot Russia and then make the rest of the world pay THEM for Russia’s stuff.

    Not surprisingly, Russia has armed itself to the teeth and is waiting on the front porch.

    Or, actually, is going down to the end of the driveway to to look around and make sure.

  172. Skeptikal says:
    @Kali

    “the Zionist cabal that controls and directs the actions of its empire from its Washington DC headquarters.’

    A.k.a. Neocons.

  173. TRM says:
    @nsa

    #TradeForAssange

    Come on Vlad. Think about how pissed the USA & UK would be if you demanded Assange be part of any trade. It’s the only chance the guy has to see daylight a free man again. Let Julian & Edward hang out together in Moscow.

    #TradeForAssange

  174. @EugeneGur

    There is a difference between dropping bombs from afar and violating a teenage girl before literally crucifying her on the side of a tree. The Allies had a lot of blood on their hands and acted in a sanctimonious ways but it is rare to hear about pure barbarity on behalf of the common troops.

    I read a story about Russians waiting in line to rape a young girl. After a while the girl perished from this treatment and the soldier who was currently enjoying her asked his commanding officer what he should do? He was told “get on with it, we got people waiting”.

    Another story relays how a bunch of Russian soldiers descended on a nursery and started raping elderly and terminally ill patients in a sexual frenzy. This time the commander was merely worried whether the victims were suffering from contagious diseases which might impact fighting power, and only intervened when he learned this was indeed the case. By that time however several of the patients in the nursing home had perished from all the violent raping.

    As far as I know such incidents would be completely unthinkable in any Western army no matter the regime. You have to go down to the black and Muslim ghetto’s to find this type of behavior.

    It should perhaps be noted that this type of behavior was more common among the Mongolian elements of the Russian army and less so with the Europeans.

    • Agree: Carolyn Yeager
    • Troll: Here Be Dragon
    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
    , @Skeptikal
  175. Cking says:

    I can’t stand it, to read of a German stateman engaging in unrealistic, reckless, warmongering blaming and targeting Russia. There is no benefit to German interests here. The Western powers, Washington, get what they want, a permanent wedge between Russia and Germany. The Ukraine-Russia Crisis is the age-old British perpetual war waged upon Europe; Germany in particular. Germany is not a free state, but a client and subordinate to the US/NATO firm. War or no war, Europe is going to be plunged into poverty and starvation, in submission to the imperatives the ‘Ancient Ones’ deem necessary. Germany, made a wreck by the West’s Liberalism, once again is being forced to kill itself. Sickening.

    The West’s accepted WWII narrative demands revision as well. WWI and WWII were organized to destroy the German nation-state, and annihilate the German people because she was a rival to the British Imperial system. 15 million Germans died before, during and after WWII. I dare say if not for the Bolshevik Revolution and the 1920 Invasion of Poland, the massing of Red Army troops on Poland’s 1939 border, the two-faced, Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, the Warburg brothers, etc. WWII may not have erupted. At least 3 million Germans were being killed throughout Europe as the result of the pathological anti-German era between the world wars. The Soviet made famine in Ukraine, the Holodomor, cannot be forgotten. There is a reason for the existence of the Ukie Nazis.

    War with Russia is stupid now, especially for the Europeans, yet people in high places think high stakes chaos has so many benefits for them; radical population reduction, population control, permanent authoritarian government, the abolition of the middle class and the private life, regimentation in all aspects of the individual’s life, the reorganization of the trans-Atlantic banking/financial system at the expense of the little people, and America’s domination over everyone. No matter its denials, Israel is obviously very invested in Ukraine and trust Russia has its eye on Israel. This cannot end well for the crazy men.

    https://www.hudson.org/research/13994-100-years-of-communism-and-100-million-dead

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  176. As noted by others, Germany doesn’t even have a foreign policy separate from the Global American Empire (GAE). But the Russian State has worked its soldiers into such an anti-nazi lather, that they are calling the Ukrainians they hope to kill “Germans”. Putin says the Ukrainians are ruled by nazis even as his own troops’ ethnic bigotry has them fantasizing about killing an ethnicity they aren’t even fighting.

  177. Dream says:
    @Malla

    Russia isn’t a conservative country by any standard.

    1) Russia has the highest HIV prevalence rates of any non-black country. That rate keeps increasing.

    2)A very high prostitutes per
    10,000 population (In Russia its 208, while in USA its 31. In UK its 11.)
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_statistics_by_country

    3)Russia has the highest rate of abortions in the entire world.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_abortion_statistics

    4)”More than 40 percent of girls have already lost their virginity by the age of 15 — a year younger than the legal age of consent in Russia — researchers said in a study titled “Medical and Social Problems of Raising Teenagers,” Izvestia reported Monday.”
    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2014/05/27/40-percent-of-russian-girls-lose-virginity-before-reaching-age-of-consent-a35849

  178. Bookish1 says:
    @nokangaroos

    If that is what it takes—-i believe a major crash is coming

  179. peterAUS says:
    @Cking

    ….people in high places think high stakes chaos has so many benefits for them; radical population reduction, population control, permanent authoritarian government, the abolition of the middle class and the private life, regimentation in all aspects of the individual’s life, the reorganization of the World banking/financial system at the expense of the little people,…..

    My “bold” edit.

    As for

    …This cannot end well for the crazy men…..

    Looking at what’s been happening so far I doubt it.

    • Replies: @Cking
  180. anonymous[159] • Disclaimer says:

    One of the most difficult concepts to master, and which most people never master – is self-criticism. I am one billion percent sure that Hitler thought of himself as a genuinely good guy.

    He never saw himself as a monster. After all, how can somebody be bad when he is only looking after the interest of the good german people against the evil savages from the east (Slavs).

    I had the misfortune to spend (too) many years in the west. People there are incapable of understanding that they can be lied to about who is good and who is evil and nobody will ever volunteer to admit that their side is evil.

    Plus, how can somebody who is on the side of democracy be evil? Impossible. Never mind that “democracy” is just a pile of BS, where voters don’t decide really anything.

    I have a different perspective on things – Russia has never been on the wrong side of history and it’s still not at present time. NATO has always been an anti-Russian alliance, not some democrapcy spreading mechanism for improving the lives on unwilling recipients of democrapcy at the cost of 500 000 children which at that time was exchange rate at which democrapcy can be obtained.

    And what is the exchange rate for achieving democracy now? As many Russians as you can kill especially if they are killed by lesser Russians (mallorussians) or as I like to call them maloumnyi – which of course means retarded.

    How can you go and kill your fellow Slavs to make benefit the Great Satan? Is the formula for democracy – the more evil you do, the firmer commitment to democracy you show? Hitler was the goodest guy in history according to him and the equally monstrous nation that he was at the helm at that time.

    The same type of goodness is emanating from the west now. The more evil you are – the better you are, because you are fighting for a good cause. That’s absurd and shows the degeneration of the west at present time. You can’t commit evil for a good cause, because it automatically seizes to be a good cause once you commit evil in the name of the “good cause”.

    Tell that to the morons of the west. Of course when you a fighting against evil (supposedly Russia) and if you outdo them in this category – then it’s OK, you just proved to be more crafty, but you didn’t started it, so you are exonerated again.

    That’s the “logic” under which they are operating and trying to sell themselves to the world as the good guys. As, I said, don’t worry about it, you were never the good guys (except in your minds) and your never will be of any good for the general well-being of the western civilization. History (if it self survives) will not remember you as good guys, because you are going to lose this one, and they say that history is written by victors – even if they are opposed by a whole lotta of propaganda – which actually should cease to exist if the victory of the future writers is comprehensive enough.

  181. FifthDim says:

    Since 988 AD, the year the Russian Orthodox Church was founded, the Roman Catholic Church first and most important task was to destroy Russia.
    The Roman Catholic Church started the 1st Crusade to Russia by ordering Napoleon to invade and face a total defeat.

    The Roman Catholic Church pushed Russia into WW1 because Russia would stand for her ally Serbia as soon as Austria-Hungary declared war against Serbia, and we all know how this story ended.

    The Roman Catholic Church started the 2nd Crusade to Russia by requesting Nazi Germany to invade; it is well documented that many Nazi leaders and top collaborators of the Nazi regime escaped to South America with Vatican passports, she faced total defeat again.

    After WW2 the Roman Catholic Church started planning the 3rd Crusade to Russia, or even way before WW2 was over, she created a multinational army to achieve her will; it does not matter if hundred of millions die directly and indirectly around the world as a result of the attempt but she will not stop until Russia bows in defeat, not to NATO but to the Roman Catholic Church.

  182. @Jefferson Temple

    So why then the superior fighting force did not prevail, if they could benefit from the use of that massive land mass even more, and had a lot more assistance from their own allies, and the season called winter was working against the Russians as well?

    You pathetic bastards are looking for an excuse. There is none. You lost, because the Russians were better. Smarter and stronger.

    • Thanks: Towey
    • Troll: Jefferson Temple
    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
    , @Towey
  183. @coolhand850

    That’s right.

    Or in plain words Fascism is about bondage and dominance. BDSM for the masses. You are a Nazi fag so go watch Nazi porn, and leave me alone.

    • Replies: @coolhand850
    , @Malla
  184. Fox says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    You are making a good case for Germany to always have been wary of Russian expansive politics, yet another piece of evidence for the correct perception that led to Barbarossa on June 21, 1941..

  185. Fox says:
    @Karl from Germany

    How much the current behavior of Germany has its source in Washington is evident from the fact that Scholz had to meet Blinken and Austin in Ramstein, an exterritorial American military base on German soil. They didn’t feel it necessary to go to Berlin and ask.

  186. @Alexandros

    Thanks Alexandros, that was exactly what I was/am thinking, that these reactive ‘Slavonics’ cannot appreciate and refuse to hear. See how they just start screaming and finger pointing. They can go to my podcast series on the Wehrmacht War Crimes Bureau investigations, from the book by Alfred de Zayas, for details: https://carolynyeager.net/wehrmacht-war-crimes-bureau. And this is only what they did to soldiers, not to young females whom they came upon. Some of the worst atrocities took place in the Ukraine, the following two occurred in Feodosia and Grischino: https://carolynyeager.net/wehrmacht-war-crimes-bureau-1939-1945-part-10

    This is what is meant by “barbaric” and it was not found on the battlefields of the Western countries I mentioned. This type of personal mutilation was done by the Poles and Czechs also (when they got the chance), as well as by the Russians. Germans never displayed such behavior; it was inconceivable to them.

    I certainly in no way condone or make less of the nighttime carpet bombing of residences and the fire-bombing perfected by the RAF, how could I? The American bombing was also divorced from any consideration for human values. But there is a difference.

    Again, thanks Alexandros for coming in on this.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Here Be Dragon
  187. Anon[338] • Disclaimer says:

    @Cking

    Funny how the Hudson institute does not mention how many people were killed in the name of religion. I am not endorsing communism, but it was easy for me to find an article that I had just posted here that 80 million have been displaced from our wars. We have the biggest prison (gulag) system in history. You don’t think that would have been easy to research?

    Prison State
    https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/prison-state/

  188. @RadicalCenter

    The Soviet Union’s idea of good government.

    https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/members-of-the-league-of-german-girls-lined-up-before-doing-exercises-picture-id545719839?k=6&m=545719839&s=612×612&w=0&h=IBFRCOitEtMPvJJxVIz_SM5U6rF3NYRjQ_YGKlfQdq8=

    Germany’s idea of good government.

    It doesn’t take a student of WWII history to determine who the real evil and threat to humanity was, and it wasn’t Germany.

    • Agree: Cking, HdC
    • Replies: @Derer
  189. RMax368 says:

    Only it can’t be about an American power grab, because it is going to collapse America and weaken Russia. Aren’t the Bidens heavily financed by the Chinese? Isn’t China heavily investing in infrastructure and transport, with a sideline in aquiring reserves of natural resources? Who will be left standing when this is all over?
    The Bidens are immoral crooks, the kind that will sell out anyone if there is a buck in it.
    The Chinese then are just doing business, it’s nothing personal.
    If the USA is willing to sacrifice all of it’s freedoms, resources and lives and allow immoral selfish people to continue to ruin it, then so be it. It is far cheaper to pay off the Bidens than launch a real war. Given all of the facts that have been revealed about the Bidens, the idea that even one person would vote Democrat in the next election is madness. A thirty percent vote is the event horizon of destruction.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  190. peterAUS says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    …. Germans never displayed such behavior; it was inconceivable to them…..

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirlewanger_Brigade

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  191. @Carolyn Yeager

    Bitch you have lost your mind completely. Look at yourself – I have just seen your photo. You are a Mongoloid. Your so called articles are sick fantasies.

    No wonder you are so fond of Elie Wiesel. And let us not forget that Yiddish is a Germanic language. You Nazi idiots are all the same – no matter what language, no matter the place.

    And when we are calling you a bitch we are not screaming and not finger pointing, we are spitting through the teeth.

    Bitch!

    • Troll: Richard B
  192. @Here Be Dragon

    I’m not for the Nazis. I am for truth and reason. To be honest I don’t know anybody who speaks Russian or German personally, so naturally neither has ever done anything to me good, bad, or otherwise. You on the otherhand, this cannot be said, as exhibited in this ridiculous post above. For all I know that’s a photo of you and your husband on your wedding day. Congratulations and may you both have years of endless love together.

  193. Dream says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    Russians would have been kaput without the help of the the then Germanic nations of UK and USA.

    The original Aryans i.e. Indo-Iranians ( Sintashta culture), before mixing with the natives of India and Iran, were genetically closest to modern Nordics.

    • Replies: @Here Be Dragon
  194. peterAUS says:
    @RMax368

    …. Who will be left standing when this is all over?……

    The people who are at the top of the current world financial system.

    They are carefully dismantling the current system and introducing the new one, WITH, of course, them still on the top.

    That’s the plan, anyway.

    • Agree: Liosnagcat
  195. Malla says:
    @HeebHunter

    They were brainwashed for decades.

  196. Malla says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    ZOG FBI “National Socialists” agents.

  197. @Dream

    No they were not, and there would be no proof of that if they were – we do not have a sample of the Aryan DNA.

    However we can make conclusions based on the linguistic studies.

    Sanskrit and Russian: Ancient kinship
    https://www.rbth.com/blogs/2014/11/01/sanskrit_and_russian_ancient_kinship_39451

    And we can compare the distribution of the Haplogroup R1a of Y-DNA in the world and see that main centers are located in the north-west of India and the west of Russia.

    The Aryans lived in the north-west of India – that is known.

    • Replies: @Dream
  198. @peterAUS

    Yeah, just keep mixing apples and oranges. I was of course referring to the common German soldier, not a special unit of degenerate criminals. And from that Wikipedia page I have no idea just what they were supposed to accomplish and who was overseeing them. It’s all pretty vague and disjointed. I don’t trust that to be the last word on the subject.

  199. Cking says:
    @peterAUS

    There is no room for playing games with Russia. Israel, is the Achilles heal in all this Ukraine crisis. IMHO, Eventually, Zelensky will have to beg for peace terms. Why the US Congress voted to send \$40 Billion more to Ukraine is mystifying. Where are they getting their information? Too many members of the Congress owe familial and allegiance to Ukraine; it should be disclosed to the American people.

    At best Ukraine will shrink and Israeli and Mafia investors will be able to buy up Ukraine for pennies on the \$dollar. Some war, some country we have.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  200. @Here Be Dragon

    You are fairly new here and maybe don’t know that you are way out of line. I’m going to report this comment to Ron Unz. Let’s hope he takes action to prevent his site from deteriorating into a low-life slum.

  201. “It’s all Gorbachev’s fault.”

    Everyday that goes by, it looks like the Tankies were right, after all.

    I wonder if Berlinguer is having regrets from his grave.

  202. Karl1906 says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Well known fact. Though not the moment when the Greens lost their “virginity”. That was when they voted for the NATO-attack against Serbia.

    And you should also never forget at this opportunity that it was Genscher (from the FDP) in the first place who seriously started the conflict in Yugoslavia by recognising Croatia and Slovenia as separate states. US state department’s plan most likely was to break the country apart and – as usual – German politics were complicit.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  203. Karl1906 says:
    @Malla

    Population and countries of the US and UK are balkanised and ethnically “purged” (or better “swapped”) because the US establishment considers that more useful for their “new world order”.

    They fully fit into Sun Tzu’s statement:
    “An evil enemy, will burn his own nation to the ground…. to rule over the ashes.”

  204. @Hitch

    The real issue that very few pundits seem to realize is that Germany, like the UK, the US, Canada, Australia, France and all of the EU and all of Nato are merely provinces of ZOG.

    Absolutely!

    The only question is: To what extent are Russia and China also “provinces of ZOG?”

    I mean, if war-induced population reduction and a “great reset” to a globalized “new world order” are the goals, is it so far-fetched to think that Russia and China are just playing their parts in this piece of Kabuki theater?

    • Agree: peterAUS
  205. @Zachary Smith

    Germany joined NATO in 1955.

    That’s West Germany. East Germany was part of the Warsaw Pact.

  206. @Joe Paluka

    The picture of Heinrich Himmler looks especially oriental

    Yeah, man! Dammed Chinks!

  207. Malla says:
    @Derer

    The recent events against Russians or participation in Serbia bombing are clear indication of that.

    Most western populations are OK with bombing other White people but go ape shit when non Whites are bombed. Bombing both Whites and non Whites by ZOG is wrong but Western Whites seem to be OK when other White people are fucked, whether they be Rhodesians, White South Africans, Serbs or Russians. It supposedly shows “moral superiority”. The only other race, they are comfortable with bombing are maybe North East Asians, bad news for China.

    If the Serbs would have been blacks, Western populations would be in the streets protesting their own “Nazi” Governments. Check out the extreme opposition to the Iraq war (which was a good thing too) but nothing similar when Yugloslavia was attacked. That is how most Westerners think, now a days.

  208. @Liosnagcat

    Why do people always say ‘Kabuki’ theatre? You might as well say Noh theatre, or pantomime. The real analogy is to ‘bunraku’ or the Japanese puppet theatre (or any other puppet theatre you can think of-I like the metaphor of ‘shadow puppetry’ myself for Platonic reasons and from John Dewey’s ‘…politics is the shadow thrown on society by big business..). There the puppeteers controlling the marionettes are dressed all in black, and the audience pretends not to see them. The Master Puppeteers, however, are dressed in their finery, for all to see. Does that remind you of anyone?

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  209. Anonymous[138] • Disclaimer says:

    Why is it so hard to get it? What Germany did in WWII is ancient history. Germany is now part of the American Empire. Like the Medes absorbed into the Persian Empire under Cyrus the Great they are now part of a greater entity for which they will be called to fight when the times are right. It is against Persia that the Greeks fought.

    The American Empire was formed from the beginning of the US. It advanced under different banners across the last two centuries. The conquest of North America, the removal of the Indians to reservations, the war against Spain, WWI, and the later wars in Europe and the Pacific that followed. Each step was justified for a different reason, and a different historical context and each step has brought an expanded empire.

    That empire of the US is now the Western Empire and heir to Western Civilization. The end feat of that Empire is planetary consolidation. The West will now go to war for planetary hegemony. The last act of Western Civilization after Oswald Spengler is a civilization spanning universal empire which the West sees as the entire planet. The US as the Western Empire will now fight for planetary empire or break in the attempt.

    The current sentiments expressed against the Germans is a product of their defeat in war. When Hitler stood as a colossus over Europe no one would have expressed their fear of the Germans in the same way. Someday, if the US loses, similar sentiments may be expressed about the US as are now expressed against Germany, but, for now, the game is in play. Winners do not play by moral rules demanded by others; they make the rules that others must play by.

    This is the true vision of the US and the Western Empire. The scraps of historical territories and previous attempts at empire are now forged into a new instrument to make another bid for ultimate power over the planet.

  210. peterAUS says:
    @Cking

    Eventually, Zelensky will have to beg for peace terms.

    Not necessarily.

    Why the US Congress voted to send \$40 Billion more to Ukraine is mystifying.

    For a lot of people.
    For a lot it isn’t. It’s about strengthening Ukrainian side in the war.

    At best Ukraine will shrink….

    That’s one possibility.
    Others are: regime change in Kremlin, fracturing of Russian Federation and the last, but definitely not the least extended high intensity conventional warfare in that theatre. An excellent way, with The Scamdemic, to deliver The Great Reset.

    • Replies: @GMC
  211. @Here Be Dragon

    Here we see the typical of the slav(e)ic subhuman bolshevik.

    “You nazis are the real kikes, like eli wiesel! You caused the Holocaust! We make sure it is illegal to bust the holohoax myth though! We love Jesus and Lenin!”

    Subhuman beings on a lower spiritual and intellectual level: the Slav(e)s. Just cut the hohols legs off, take the Black See and leave us alone, you fucking subhumans.

    • Agree: coolhand850
    • Troll: RadicalCenter
  212. Hitch says:
    @Miro23

    So basically it’s a war between organized Jewry led by the Kagan/Nuland neocons (plus their WEF/Davos associates) and Russia, led by Putin.

    At this point that is our best hope. The alternative, that Putin is just a stooge, is too grim to even contemplate. However, if one scratches the surface and looks around, there is ample evidence that Putin is part of the cabal. For one thing, Putin was a WEF “Future Global Leader”, and there are dozens of chummy photographs of him and Klaus Schwab hobnobbing it up. Then there is the issue of Putin’s Jewish mother and all the effort he puts into keeping this covered up. There is also Putin’s participation in the Covid scam to worry about as well. Edward Slavsquat has written many articles about Russia’s failure to refute the WEF NWO.

    https://edwardslavsquat.substack.com/p/biosecurity-grooming

    https://edwardslavsquat.substack.com/p/is-putin-fighting-to-stop-the-clot

    https://edwardslavsquat.substack.com/p/optimized-russia

    https://edwardslavsquat.substack.com/p/covid-russia-triumph-of-the-virus

    • Agree: peterAUS
    • Replies: @Hitch
  213. @Here Be Dragon

    “…So why then the superior fighting force did not prevail, if they could benefit from the use of that massive land mass even more, and had a lot more assistance from their own allies, and the season called winter was working against the Russians as well..?”

    The Soviets practiced scorched earth tacitc, they were used to their own cold winters and had winter clothing, their allies (US and UK) provided them with more material than the few allies Germany had. That said, they were indeed formidable fighters. Operation Barbarossa was doomed to failure from the start, but don’t tell that to megalomaniac Uncle Adolf.

    • Replies: @Here Be Dragon
  214. Dream says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    We do have DNA samples of the Indo-Iranians aka Aryans of Sintashta culture.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sintashta_culture#Genetics

    Here are the genetically closest modern populations.

    • Thanks: Malla
    • Replies: @Here Be Dragon
  215. Hitch says:
    @Hitch

    One would think that even if Russia and China aren’t really opposed to the WEF/BIS NWO, that Iran certainly is. However, even Iran is playing the CBDC/Social Credit game.

    This is why Mr. Whitney’s scorn for Germany really misses the target. He seems to be convinced that Putin and his beloved Russia are really fighting against Schwab/Gates/Soros. This is not at all clear, they are quite possibly simply in different dialectic lodges of the Masonic order, just like the North and the South in the US civil war.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  216. @Karl1906

    And I will never forget that Germany was joined by the Vatican, led by Wojtyla, the great patron saint and protector of priestly paedophiles.

  217. Towey says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    Fat finger. Without American and British finance, weapons and technology they would have been defeated by Hitler at Barbarossa. They only won because the communists had access to Jewish capital and WASP muscle.

  218. “In World War 2, the German Wehrmacht killed 27 million Russians.” Yes, that’s what “some” people believe.

    • Replies: @Alexandros
  219. neutral says:
    @Liosnagcat

    Russia and China are not ZOG, the amount of anti China and Russia propaganda from real ZOG states should be more than sufficient evidence to show that.

  220. I do hope somebody translates this article into German ASAP.

  221. Maybe it is just me . . .

    but the year is 2022 and the only country making hay about past WWII animosities leading to aggression is

    Russia.

    Though I agree . . . war is a nasty nasty nasty business that routinely takes lives and is best avoided, unless of course one party insists and Russia is insisting.

    • Replies: @Petermx
  222. @RestiveUs

    Immigrants and the militarization of Germany? Would you hold that to be true of America, Britain, France, Australia, Japan and Taiwan? I doubt it, unless you had the Zionist factor in mind.

  223. @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    The number is probably not far off. Stalin conscripted 35 million men, at the end of the war perhaps 10 million were still available.

    Germany lost maybe 4 million in fighting. They inflicted casualties in the 3 to 1 and 5 to 1 range. So between 12 and 20 million killed and wounded.

    Accurate estimates are problematic because of the lack of honesty in Soviet reporting.

    • Replies: @HdC
  224. Petermx says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Yes, I think it’s you. I hear Americans, British and of course Jews talk about WW II all the time still today and the biggest lies are pushed. It wasn’t the Russians that popularized a claim of genocide decades after the war ended, redefined the word holocaust for their own purposes and made it into a moneymaking scam or scheme (take your pick) involving billions of dollars and involving every country in the world. These were Jews and the English speaking world more than any other that made it into what it is. Besides the Jews I have heard many British talk about WW II still today as if it happened 5 years ago. All three lie and are self righteous.

    But admittedly, no one matches the Jews in this. They played a big role in starting WW II and implicit in many articles from Jews is that there was no alternative to war. They began pushing for war in 1933 already. And the third thing they insist on is they had nothing to do with starting the war and it’s “anti-semitic” to claim otherwise. How can these three things be facts at the same time?

    Blatantly lying is no problem for many Jews. They have pushed Einstein as not just the ultimate genius, but the most decent man that ever lived, a lifelong pacifist. The Times of Israel had an article last week on a letter Einstein wrote in 1936 in which he urged an attack on Germany (that’s in the title of the article) and said this should have happened in 1933 already but the Jewish newspaper calls him a “pacifist” in the same article. The definition of the word pacifist means the The Times of Israel are liars. Someone can’t be a pacifist and demanding war at the same time. Three years later the “pacifist” Einstein wrote a letter to the American president urging work begin on developing an atomic bomb to be dropped on Germany, Einstein’s own country. That’s a “pacifist”? There was certainly no “holocaust” taking place in 1939. Einstein is just one example of why Jews were viewed as enemies by Germany, why Jews were arrested and why many were targeted in the war.

    • Agree: HdC
  225. LOL.

    Scholz doesn’t make independent decisions.

    He was overruled on Nord Stream 2, sanctions, and neutrality. His coalition government is trying to muzzle dissenters including Schröder.

    A similar fate awaits Sweden and Finland led by ‘virtuous’ nevertheless myopic women. They might also be forced to host bases, accept nuclear weapons, and increase military spending at the expense of social services.

  226. @Hitch

    Government rationing, especially in a country with disparate racial, ethnic and religious groups who often dislike and distrust each other, means that outnumbered and/or powerless people will be starved to death eventually. Hell no.

  227. Nat X says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    The hun has always had homo tendencies, i.e Ernst Rohm…

  228. I do not agree. The bolsjevik Russia with Stalin was the worst massmurderers in Europen historia. Hitler was number two.

    Russia has stolen Krimea and invaded Ukraine. Russia is the war kriminal. Russia must leave Krim and Ukrain and pay for all damages in Ukraine. Until then Russia will face total isolation by the West and most of the world. China and India will have to choose between doing business with Russia (\$1.7 trillion market) or the West (\$50 trillion market), it is a no brainer. Russia will be like a gigantic North Korea and Putin an ridiculous Kim Jung-un threatening the world with nuclear war to get attention.

    Russia is totally corrupt by its security services, president, oligarchs. All of them are simple thievs and murderes. The rich men of Russia is no Steven Jobs type of entreprenörskap creating massive value forte world by creating new technology, all these useless people are just simple thieves.

    Russia needs to be de-bolsjeviked and de-militarized and the brains of Russian really needs to be washed from Stalenism. If not Russia will have no future.

    • Agree: Wizard of Oz
  229. @Franklin Ryckaert

    Of course the aid that the Russians were getting was significant, and indeed helped a lot, but the Germans had all of Europe with all of its industrial potential at their disposal.

    The amount of the aid is also often exaggerated – the Lend-Lease was in aggregate \$130 billion in goods over the period of five years. That is significant but not critical.

    To claim that without that aid the Russians would have lost the war one has to be insolent and stupid. Most of the losses the Germans took were on the Russian front, and it is without Russia the Allies would have never won.

    The order of priorities in their logic is arse-about.

  230. You do remember that the PAX Americana still has 38000 troops on German soil. He literally has 38000 guns pointing at his people that he can’t do anything about without severe punishment. What can Scholz do until yanqui vete a casa.

    • Agree: Petermx
    • Replies: @HeebHunter
  231. Marcali says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    Perhaps it is true:
    According to Margarita Buber-Neumann who surviveg both the National Socialist and the Communist camps: Stalin = Hitler + Asia

  232. GMC says:
    @peterAUS

    Yo Pal – most of the 40 billion will be in Swiss, British, and off shore accts faster than the bill was passed. Let’s see, in another month, if the Ukie soldiers that surrenderor die are wearing new boots or shoes and sneakers. I spent years in Ukraine – knew many old Ukie military men. They were terribly screwed over by the Kiev military corruption – it was a fact of life in Ukraine. And Hopefully, this war is the end of the line for Kiev, and their Zelinsky’s, Poroshanksters, YanukoBitch’s, and all the Jew Oligarchs – one way or another. Happiness would be shooting down all the Ukie Oligarch private jets , with American made shoulder missiles. PS WTF happened to all those tough Aussie Nam Vets when it comes to this NWO Australian POS Gov. ? I think of them when I looked at the mountains north west of Vung tau, last time I was there.

  233. Corrupt says:

    “Don’t they realize these weapons will be used to kill Russian soldiers?”

    You say that like it’s a bad thing.

  234. @Dream

    Reading comprehension problem?

    You chart shows the realative genetic distance of various ethnic groups to Rus Sintashta, whatever that means.

    Now in the article it reads,

    This culture is thought to represent an eastward migration of peoples from the Corded Ware culture. It is widely regarded as the origin of the Indo-Iranian languages.

    The people of the Sintashta culture are thought to have spoken Proto-Indo-Iranian, the ancestor of the Indo-Iranian language family.

    Although it does not make a lot of sense to discuss that, let me point it out that no language in Europe does belong to the Indo-Iranian branch.

    The Indo-Iranian languages, the same as Balto-Slavic and Germanic languages, belong to the group of the Indo-European languages, and descend from the ancient Proto-Indo-European language.

    The Indo-Iranian language was a direct precursor to Sanskrit – the language of the Aryans. However it belongs to a different branch, the same as Balto-Slavic and Germanic languages belong to different branches.

    Linguistic studies allow to compare the grammatical and lexical structure of two languages and to reconstruct their mutual influence or dependencies, and therefore to make conclusions regarding the people who spoke them in the historical and anthropological context.

    The studies show a close resemblance between Sanskrit and Russian. Not Sanskrit and something Scandinavian, but Sanskrit and Russian.

    Furthermore, in the article it is said that the DNA samples of two males showed that one carried haplogroup R1a, while the other carried R1a1a1b. Both of them carried Indo-European haplogroup.

    You can see it on the chart that predominant haplogroup among the Russians is R1a, whereas it is not the predominant haplogroup among the Scandinavians. Except for the Russians the Poles and the Czech share the same haplogroup, but their languages do not have a lot in common with Sanskrit.

    You should have known that the Nazi idea of the Nordic Aryan race was a pure bullshit, not based on science and has been discredited with scientific data a long time ago.

    • Replies: @Dream
  235. Petermx says:
    @JohnnySweden

    Disagree 100%. Judeo-Bolshevik Soviet Union is not the same as post 1989 Russia. After the American backed coup of the Ukrainian government in 2014 Crimea held a plebiscite in Crimea to decide what the people of Crimea wanted. The population there voted overwhelmingly to join Russia. To go a little further back, in 1990 when the USSR collapsed Gorbachev let the different republics become independent and he let Germany unify when the Americans promised NATO would not extend one inch further east. They would not ask east European countries to join NATO. They lied. Just a few years later they began asking east European countries if they wanted to join NATO and now most of eastern Europe belongs to NATO. The Russia-Ukraine war could have been avoided if not for the Americans. All Ukraine had to do was agree they would not join NATO, a military alliance that views Russia as its enemy. They refused. Ukraine was not given its independence so they could join a military alliance and join others in a war against Russia.

    Maybe Sweden and Finland will learn that lesson too. Austria, Switzerland, Sweden and Finland have all been neutral for many decades or much longer. When you join a military alliance and declare a country that has done nothing to you for many years you risk getting smacked down. I think many Europeans would like to see that. I would,

    • Agree: Incisive One
    • Replies: @ariadna
    , @Johnny Sweden
  236. aandrews says:

    US & UK anti-ship missiles. EU panic over Ukraine wheat. Erdogan trolls Finland & Sweden. Update 1
    Alex Christoforou
    First published at 10:50 UTC on May 20th, 2022.


    Video Linktimestamp 12:37

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
    , @aandrews
  237. @Carolyn Yeager

    Do not report to Ron Unz – better straight to Gestapo. Tell them, how dares he, this Untermensch, talk to me like that!

    Oh and I forgot – that DNA map that you proudly published on your web site clearly shows, that your ancestors come from the region formerly known as Khazaria.

    So I guess it explains your apparently inherent arrogance and delusions of grandeur.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
    , @Fox
  238. ariadna says:
    @JohnnySweden

    “Russia has stolen Krimea and invaded Ukraine.”
    You get your facts and your history from… where? Wikipedia?

    “Russia is the war kriminal. Russia must leave Krim and Ukrain..”
    Do you get a prize for using the letter “k” as often as possible?

    “China and India will have to choose between doing business with Russia … or the West … , it is a no brainer. “
    No, Johnny Skewden, it is like this:
    “The West will have to choose between starving and freezing or doing business with Russia (if Russia accepts), China and India … , it is a no brainer. ”

    • Agree: Avery, Petermx
    • Replies: @Johnny Sweden
  239. Fox says:

    The voice of an unsettled spirit speaks from your words. Carolyn Yeager is quite right in expecting a civil tone, otherwise, what is the point of your presence here if you just ant to get your throw out angry outbursts mixed with triumphalism?

    • Thanks: Carolyn Yeager
  240. ariadna says:
    @Petermx

    All true.
    This hope: “Maybe Sweden and Finland will learn that lesson too. Austria, Switzerland, Sweden and Finland have all been neutral for many decades or much longer” is based on the implied assumption that at some point they will have a wise leadership with a spine, and animated by real concern for their own nations.
    They had decades during which they could have watched the NATO members sinking in debt to the IMF in order to buy the weaponry dictated by NATO, which they did not need, and for decades they c could have congratulated themselves for abstaining from joining the sorry club.
    And that even before considering the peril of painting on their chest a bull’s eye saying in Russian “I am Russia’s enemy.”

    • Agree: Petermx
  241. HdC says:
    @Jefferson Temple

    To say nothing about the massive material help from the good ol’ USA.

    • Replies: @Jefferson Temple
  242. @Here Be Dragon

    Yep, you are a liar through and through. You cannot tell the truth. That informs us of all we need to know about you.

    There are so many of you now here on Unz Review comments that it’s hardly possible for others to get a word in edgewise. Ron Unz should watch out that his model website doesn’t collapse from the unequal weight. So much for free speech, I guess.

    • Agree: Richard B
  243. @aandrews

    Thanks … two points:

    – These anti-ship missiles – they are not for breaking a blockade; we are talking about a bathtub the Ruskies can perfectly well block without any assets in the water; but with Elendski´s recent failure to take back Snake Island the logical next move is an amphibious one on Odessa, and this scares the bejeezus out of them.
    – As for Turkey vs. Sweden/Finland I have this vision of Andersson ringing up
    Erdogan and going:
    “Listen, Reccep: The Americans have us by the ovaries; if we don´t sign up and buy their stuff they kick us out of SWIFT and sanction our industries and impound our yachts. We know their war guarantees aren´t worth shit and their armaments, slightly less so, but you know they are psychos.
    I beg you in tender feminine supplication Help Us, Reccep!
    We already have a plan: [ ] If we play this right you will get your F-35s and be thanked for taking them and we will buy a shitload of those Bayraktars your brother-in-law is making, and hopefully the Jew will croak before too long.”

    Of course I may be wrong 😀

    • Replies: @ariadna
  244. HdC says:
    @James J O'Meara

    The USA was in it from day one, selling arms and industrial plants, plus food, and USA dollar printing plates. to the USSR. And war material to Britain.
    The USA interfered with German shipping and naval vessels in the Atlantic, long before any declaration of war by Germany. The latter was a legal requirement by Germany so that commands to fight back could be legally given. The USA never observes such international niceties.

    • Agree: nokangaroos
  245. ariadna says:

    Whose choice was it to place the photo at the top (from Fawlty Towers): the author’s or the editor?
    It looks like a warning to the reader that the view of Germany expressed in the article is cartoonish.

  246. ariadna says:
    @nokangaroos

    Unconfirmed but likely:

    Pres Putin has called Finland’s president and offered Russia’s help if Finland would like to win the Eurovision contest next year….

    • LOL: nokangaroos
  247. @Petermx

    In my opinion, your post is more aligned with the truth of the last 80 years, than any I generally read, including Mike Whitney’s. He sounds like a writer from Stars and Stripes, circa, 1940’s. “When you arrive in Germany, do not pat the blond German Children on the head, do not befriend them, for they are the offspring of evil…. and so on. lol.

    • Agree: ariadna
    • Thanks: Petermx
    • Replies: @Petermx
  248. HdC says:
    @Alexandros

    Is there an estimate available as to how many Soviet soldiers were shot by communist rear guard police battalions, who shot any Soviet soldier that made a move to retreat or surrender?

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  249. @Petermx

    It is the Government of Ukraine that can legally do a referendum about Crimea, not an invading force from Russia. The referendum about separating Tjeckien and Slovakia was correctly done. Ukraine has always had large Russian and Ukrainian speaking population and Russia has no right what so ever to invade Crimea and do a referendum there about Crimeas country status. It is like USA would invade British Columbia in Canada to connect USA with Alaska and do a referendum there and just tell the world that now BC belongs to USA.

    Russia really deserves to lose this war big time. Russia is the war criminal and the Putin regime deserves to be hanged in classic fashion.

    • Agree: Wizard of Oz
  250. @Johnny Sweden

    Another Nazi fan-boy-a Swede, and we all know how deep are the roots of fascism in Sweden. Russia did NOT ‘invade’ Crimea-a Big Lie. The Crimeans were attacked by your Nazi idols, and had voted already, in the 90s, to rejoin Russia, but were ignored. A ‘referendum’ under Nazi rule would be as genuine as a Eurovision Song Contest ‘vote’. Why aren’t you in Azovstal with your buddies?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  251. @HdC

    Think of a number, multiply by a thousand, and you have your answer.

  252. Skeptikal says:
    @Alexandros

    “As far as I know such incidents would be completely unthinkable in any Western army no matter the regime. You have to go down to the black and Muslim ghetto’s to find this type of behavior. ”

    Not in the Occupation army in Japan.

    “I read a story . . .”

    “Another story . . .’

    Huh.

    How come the stories I read tell of the Ukrainians nailing people to trees and castrating Russian POWs?

    • Replies: @Alexandros
  253. @JohnnySweden

    Countries with 74% of the global population have refused to sanction Russia, despite Western threats and subversion eg Pakistan. If that is your idea of the ‘rest of the world’, then you are a pretty typical racist Swede fascist, a very common form of Nordic insect. A little Brievik clone.

    • Troll: JM, Wizard of Oz
  254. anon[717] • Disclaimer says:
    @Johnny Sweden

    Unless of course, British Columbia had always been American. Until it was given to Canada in 1954.

    • Replies: @Johnny Sweden
  255. @Skeptikal

    In Japan? What happened there?

    How come the stories I read tell of the Ukrainians nailing people to trees and castrating Russian POWs?

    Because they’re still doing it?

  256. saggy says: • Website

    Bravo, Vladimir.

    Vladmir has brought us to the doorstep of WW III and Whitney is cheering him on.

    Putin has made a horrific blunder, and let’s hope the consequences can be contained.

    The same thing happened at the start of WW II. Hitler had reasonable demands on Poland, and tried for a year to negotiate them. When that failed he thought he could take what he wanted. What he did not understand was that Jews controlled the west and were waiting for a reason to go to war with Germany./

    Putin is making the same mistake. He had reasonable demands on Ukraine, and tried for years to negotiate them. Failing that he thought he could take what he wanted. What he did not understand was ……

  257. @HdC

    Yes. Falls under western assistance.

  258. @anon

    If you give away anything you transfer the ownership to the receiver of your gift. If you take back your gift without the consent of the receiver, it is a crime. So Russia is a war criminal, simple as that.

  259. Fox says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    Dragon:
    See my comment 243 which should have registered as Reply to you.

  260. @saggy

    It makes a lot of sense to me.

  261. @Badger Down

    You try and display a Swastika on a scale model in Germany.
    How far would the red rapist have come without British and American help?
    Whitney is lazy, stupid and dishonest.

  262. aandrews says:

    http://stormer5v52vjsw66jmds7ndeecudq444woadhzr2plxlaayexnh6eqd.onion/russian-prank-callers-pretend-to-be-zelensky-talk-to-george-w-bush-for-long-period/

    The most telling thing is that this is apparently really how world leaders talk to each other. Bush doesn’t seem to think it’s weird.

  263. denk says:

    Biden has announced that the 21st century is the century of competition between the United States and China. For the U.S., it must be about competition, never about cooperation. Europe is not in the running; it lost long ago. The role of Europe is to be the follower, so that the United States can be the leader. The European Greens aspire to lead the followers, wherever Washington leads them.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2021/05/03/diana-johnstone-washingtons-green-branches-in-europe/

  264. JM says:
    @VertigoPerspectiveX

    Why is Germany sending weapons to Ukraine? Don’t they realize these weapons will be used to kill Russian soldiers? Don’t they realize these weapons will be given to Nazi combatants who tattoo swastikas on their arms and march in torchlight parades? Don’t the German people care about that?

    In World War 2, the German Wehrmacht killed 27 million Russians. Isn’t that enough? How many Russians have to die to satisfy Germany’s bloodlust? Another million or so? 5 million? 27 million? How many?

    And, how does a country with Germany’s history justify the killing of more Russians today? Alot of people would like an answer to that question? I know I would.

    It’s a low-life presentation under the cover of supporting the right side (Russia) in the current war.

  265. JM says:
    @VertigoPerspectiveX

    Something else that has to be said and it isn’t designed to make one popular, particularly in the current context and that is that figure of 27 million Russians killed. After the war, the blood drenched Stalin gave the figure as 5 million. The construction of the justification (it already had Western endorsement!) for Russian occupation of Eastern Europe required many planks: one was the Holocaust of the Jews, another the ‘evil pre-war Eastern European regimes’ and another was the – expanded – Russian losses. This is not in any way to minimize the enormous Russian or other suffering, but even in this, balance and truth is needed. Instead almost everyone takes the “Soviet” figures on trust. Even into the Post-Soviet period the Russian government were still lying about the Katyn massacre, blaming it on “the Nazis”. As one who defended that, took its ‘truth’ for granted, I’m no longer a believer in any of these ‘self-evident truths’.

  266. Dream says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    Reading comprehension problem?

    You chart shows the realative genetic distance of various ethnic groups to Rus Sintashta, whatever that means.

    Those are the closest modern day ethnic groups to the people of Sintashta culture, in increasing order of genetic distance.

    Although it does not make a lot of sense to discuss that, let me point it out that no language in Europe does belong to the Indo-Iranian branch.

    Of course, Indo-Iranians did not go back to Europe.

    The Indo-Iranian language was a direct precursor to Sanskrit – the language of the Aryans. However it belongs to a different branch, the same as Balto-Slavic and Germanic languages belong to different branches.

    The Avesta actually contains more references to “Aryan” than Vedic texts do. Aryans predate the Sankrit language.

    The studies show a close resemblance between Sanskrit and Russian. Not Sanskrit and something Scandinavian, but Sanskrit and Russian.

    The closest European language to Sanskrit is Lithuanian. Language does not equal genes, anyway.

    Furthermore, in the article it is said that the DNA samples of two males showed that one carried haplogroup R1a, while the other carried R1a1a1b. Both of them carried Indo-European haplogroup.
    You can see it on the chart that predominant haplogroup among the Russians is R1a, whereas it is not the predominant haplogroup among the Scandinavians. Except for the Russians the Poles and the Czech share the same haplogroup, but their languages do not have a lot in common with Sanskrit.

    That doesn’t tell the entirety of genetics. Russians are obviously genetically far closer to R1b Irish than they are to Indians.

    You should have known that the Nazi idea of the Nordic Aryan race was a pure bullshit, not based on science and has been discredited with scientific data a long time ago.

    Its literally last decade genetic science.

    A bunch of people from the Corded Ware culture of Europe migrated in Central Asia, forming the culture of Sintashta. Again these peoples of Sintashta culture migrated into South Asia and Iran and intermixed with the natives. The Corded War peoples and those of Sintashta were more or less indistiguishable genetically. Modern North Germanics descend from Corded Ware peoples, with basically no foreign admixture. Indians and Iranians are a mix of Sintastha peoples and native peoples, and that is why modern day Indians and Iranians are gentically different from the original Indo-Iranians.

    Its stupid to use the term Aryan to refer to modern-day White people, since they are not direct descendents of Aryans, but that does not change the fact that the Aryans were whites, most similar to modern-day Nordics.

    • Replies: @Here Be Dragon
  267. Petermx says:
    @Johnny Sweden

    Wrong. After their government was illegally overthrown with the help of the Americans, the Crimeans wanted to leave Ukraine and Russia had the right to hold that plebiscite. They didn’t invade Ukraine. They had troops there all along. They had a big Navy base there, always did and still do. There was no invasion. They were already there because that was part of the agreement that gave Ukraine its independence. They invited the criminals that run the EU and US to attend the plebiscite but all (except one) refused to attend the voting because they knew Crimea would vote to join Russia. Austria sent represenstatives and said the vote was peaceful and fair (unlike the corrupt US, Europe’s boss). It was a pleasant day and run like a typical western European election they said.

    Ukraine lost Crimea because of the Americans. Unfortunately, they might now lose half of Ukraine because of warmongering Jews that run US foreign policy.

    The Russians don’t deserve to lose the war. The lying Amercans and Europeans deserve to freeze, and might do that.

    • Agree: GMC, GMC
  268. Atle says:

    Hadn’t thought about a lot of that. Thanks.

  269. @yankeecomehome

    Literally nobody (((forgets))) about this. Boomerbitch whitney is another parrot for the mainstream Holohoax foundational myth.

    The entire (((west))) need this myth of ww2 and the holohoax to justify itself, as meekly as it is now. No Holohoax, no parasitical yids and amerimutts, russkies STFU and we can dump communism/liberalism and all other kike-isms into the toilet.

    But nope, the godless, the subhumans, they can only exist in a world without truth.

  270. @Karl1906

    This, sir, is what Mr. Whitney should have elaborated on.

    Instead he stuck to well worn Soviet and British propagand tropes about bloodthirsty Germans.

    • Agree: HdC
  271. @Badger Down

    This is why people consider the slav(e)s and their shills subhumans.

    Even their lies are crude and child-like.
    And it is getting sloppier every day.
    Reminder that it is profane and satanic to engage in idolatry. It is offensive to God to pretend to worship him while openly revere kike lenin and communism.

    After jewtin, russia will really go to the shitter. Enjoy your highlight. You are manipulated into doing God’s will, giving globohomo a bloody nose. But he will come around for your sins soon enough, when jewtin croak. Then you can have your commie parade in hell.

  272. The “Germans” won’t kill nobody ever again. At least not in a war. Germany is done. Almost all softies, Lefties, greenwashed idiots.

    Germany and Russia were financed and tricked into 1. and 2. word war. The angloamerican finance elite were eager to destroy ever possible rival. That’s what they realy achieved. Millions of germans and russians dead. Both people estranged.

    I am a German. And I would fight for Russia if they were to invade Germany.

  273. saggy says: • Website
    @saggy

    US and UK Split With France and Claim There Is No Exit Ramp for Putin

    After French President Emmanual Macron called for a negotiated settlement to the war in Ukraine, American and British officials said Russia must lose

    by Kyle Anzalone Posted onMay 20, 2022CategoriesNews
    https://news.antiwar.com/2022/05/20/us-and-uk-split-with-france-and-claim-there-is-no-exit-ramp-for-putin/

    The US and UK are eyeing the complete defeat of Russia in Ukraine. Breaking with other NATO members that prefer a negotiated settlement, an American official stated the war ends with the “defeat” of Russia and a high-level British official said Russian President Vladimir Putin “must lose.”

    • Replies: @saggy
  274. @RestiveUs

    Looking closely at it over the years, there’s always been an undercurrent of German or even pan-German nationalist sentiment, despite the best efforts of globalists to smother it totally. It’s a bit like the skein of Confederate sympathy in the United States. It’s usually associated with racial awareness (or over-awareness). For the most part if you meet someone from Germany they will, like a battered housewife lapse into a submissive self denial if you ask anything regarding German nationalism.
    When the German state was destroyed, the ideologically fascist layer which Hitler had attracted around him (Bormann, &c) who didn’t really care much specifically for the National Socialist creed which made it an ethnically aware ideology, attached themselves parasitically into the United States’ intelligence apparat. (Dulles and that group, who seized complete control in 1963)
    So to these people, who were a Fascist International, they don’t need Germany anymore. It served its purpose and can be a testing ground for truama based mind control on a mass scale. But since such methods are not 100% perfect, there can be found men (and women) in Germany who carry a torch for Erich Hartmann, Micheal Witmann or Rommel and the other heroes of Germany’s brief time of greatness. This is why in Afghanistan ‘peace keeping’ ops, they kept finding German soldiers uttering old NatSoc slogans &C.

  275. ariadna says:
    @Johnny Sweden

    Your comments of diminishing returns… each sillier than the preceding one.
    You should have quite while you were just trounced, not ridiculed

  276. @Mike Stanford

    Many Germans during the 33-45 period recognized this. Read Walter Schellenberg’s memoirs. He notes that the German intel services were full of people with pro-Russian sympathies.
    Hermann Goering and Ribbentrop both warned Hitler that the USSR was too big a dog to take down.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  277. ariadna says:

    What happened to Mike Whitney?

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  278. saggy says: • Website
    @saggy

    Ominous –
    Report: US Plans To Sink Russian Black Sea FleetUS Drawing Up Plans To Sink the Russian Black Sea Fleet: Ukrainian Official – https://news.antiwar.com/2022/05/20/us-drawing-up-plans-to-sink-the-russian-black-sea-fleet-ukrainian-official/

    Reuters reports the White House is seeking to move advanced anti-ship weapons to Kiev
    by Kyle Anzalone Posted onMay 20, 2022CategoriesNews

    Shortly after Reuters published an exclusive story that the White House was looking to move advanced anti-ship missiles to Ukraine, an official in Kiev said that the US is making a plan to sink Russia’s Black Sea Fleet.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  279. @Dream

    Aryans were whites, but there is no reason to say they were most similar to modern-day Nordics. Your list does not contain any data, it was compiled by god knows who based on god knows what, most probably just to create a false argument. You want a serious talk then bring up a serious proof. So far it looks like you are trying to make things fit to a narrative that you like.

    For your information: the language of Avesta called Avestan descended from the Proto-Iranian language, “a sister language to the Proto-Indo-Aryan language, with both having developed from the earlier Proto-Indo-Iranian. As such, Old Avestan is quite close in grammar and lexicon to Vedic Sanskrit, the oldest preserved Indo-Aryan language.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avestan

    The oldest preserved Indo-Aryan language is Sanskrit, and the closest European language to Sanskrit is Russian. This is not just my incompetent opinion but the opinion of a Hindu linguist. Of course Lithuanian also must have a lot in common with Sanskrit since Lithuanian belongs to the Balto-Slavic group. Lithuanian and Russian both descended from the Proto-Balto-Slavic language.

    Sanskrit and Russian: Ancient kinship
    https://www.rbth.com/blogs/2014/11/01/sanskrit_and_russian_ancient_kinship_39451

    Language does not equal genes, but it reflects a degree of proximity between cultures which in turn affects the genes. And sine you said that “Russians are genetically far closer to Irish than they are to Indians” it looks like you really need to do your homework. There is no such thing as ethnic Indians, first of all. Second there is a caste system in Hinduism.

    There are white people in the north-west of India, descendants of the Aryans. They do not intermix with the natives. Look at these girls from the northern state of Rajastan.

    Not only they are white but they have typical Russian faces.

    • Replies: @Dream
    , @Malla
    , @Bookish1
  280. Dream says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    Aryans were whites, but there is no reason to say they were most similar to modern-day Nordics. Your list does not contain any data, it was compiled by god knows who based on god knows what, most probably just to create a false argument. You want a serious talk then bring up a serious proof. So far it looks like you are trying to make things fit to a narrative that you like.

    What I posted is basically a summary of modern genetic studies. Not my fault you don’t keep up to date with them. You can get a brief idea about about Indo-European migrations on Wikipedia. The chart I posted lists the genetically closest modern ethnic groups to the original Indo-Iranians, using the Vahaduo G25 tool.
    If you are interested in the complicated genetics stuff behind it, then you can look into these papers.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6822619/
    Here are the datasets.
    https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/datasets

    Language does not equal genes, but it reflects a degree of proximity between cultures which in turn affects the genes. And sine you said that “Russians are genetically far closer to Irish than they are to Indians” it looks like you really need to do your homework. There is no such thing as ethnic Indians, first of all. Second there is a caste system in Hinduism.

    Stop posting ridiculous statements. Russians are far closer to the Irish than they are to any South Asian ethnic group. The whitest South Asians are probably the Kalash, and they are genetically very different from whites( that includes Russians). The Aryans had already mixed with the native peoples of South Asia( who were basically a bunch of local West Eurasians and Australoid/Austro-Asiatic types) before the formation of the caste system. All modern South Asians are a mix of the three, and hence genetically different from their Aryan forbears.
    European genetic continuum.

    European compared with South Asian.

    There are white people in the north-west of India, descendants of the Aryans. They do not intermix with the natives. Look at these girls from the northern state of Rajastan.
    Not only they are white but they have typical Russian faces.

    They are not white. I find it surprising you find their appearance white, but that is subjective. Aren’t Russians usually able to tell apart Slavs from Caucasians?

    • Replies: @Here Be Dragon
  281. @Dream

    Of course the Russians are far closer to the Irish than to any South Asian ethnic group. But the Aryans are not any more South Asian than the Russians are Siberian. They are immigrants, that is not their homeland and they do not share their ethnic origin with the indigenous people, the same as the Hungarians and the Finns do not share with the rest of peoples in Europe.

    The formation of the caste system happened before the migration. The Aryans had encoded it in the Vedas and it spread around the subcontinent along with their religion.

    The data that you have referenced is generic, it does not answer the questions we are discussing. The girls on the photo – the two girls in the front – are white, not blond white but white and that is obvious. That shows that there are people in the region who do not belong to the South Asian ethnic group. According to the Vedas the Aryans came from the north and settled in the northern part of the subcontinent.

    You are confusing the Nazi idea of Aryan race with the actual Aryan people. Neither in the article that you have referenced, nor in the chart can we see any proof of your arguments. There is no such thing as “a summary of modern genetic studies” and it appears that you are not even interested in the reality of this world. You rather seem to be attached to the idea of the Nordic Aryan race – which is a fantasy, and has been refuted.

    However this is up to you to choose what to believe in, and whether to live in a lie or to learn that the world is a little more complicated. Who am I to interfere? Stay with your illusions.

    • Replies: @Dream
    , @Malla
  282. JR Foley says:
    @saggy

    USA— – NATO set up the color revolution in Kyiv. A leader elected with a majority higher than Obama was tossed out and the thugs were trained using Nazi tactics and NATO oversight and USA manuals. Then these 35 biological weapon sites in Western Ukraine –USA sites and then following 2014 and installation of the Poroshenko Jew ( son of Mafia boss Waltzman) the Western Ukraine kill 13,000 Eastern Ukrainians in Donbass while FOX-CNN is covering Kanye and Kim. Odessa had a plebiscite ( where people express democracy by means of ballot) and THEY wanted to return to Russia. HOw or why was Crimea Ukrainian? Old Days Nikita Khruschev ( The Ukrainian boss of USSR – 1954) gave Odessa to Ukraine ( made no real difference then since both Ukraine and Odessa were in the USSR) to Ukraine —now remember 1962 and this is the same Nikita who placed nuclear weapons in Cuba and USA were upset –very upset. However when it comes to another vile lying Jew Zylenskyy and his ordering nuclear weapons for Kiev -and 35 USA biological weapon sites and Azov Nazi thugs —Putin is to look the other way?

    • Replies: @saggy
  283. The weapons being sent to Ukraine will certainly kill Nazis from Russia. I’m pretty sure Scholz is well aware of that fact, and he he more aware of such facts than the author is who is willfully obtuse on the matter.

    • Troll: RadicalCenter
  284. saggy says: • Website
    @JR Foley

    Putin is to look the other way?

    Yes. Putin/Russia made a horrific mistake when, even with Nuland’s leaked convo, they led the Maidan revolution go down.

    Now, they’ve made another horrific mistake. Ukraine is not their enemy, the US/NATO is the enemy, and they are riding high and in no danger whatever. They have Russia where they want them.

    That’s my opinion now. Now we have Russia against the US/NATO in a shooting war, and neither is willing to lose. What possible outcome is there but disaster for the world. That is the odds on outcome.

    Even if Russia somehow manages to ‘win’ in Ukraine … they will still be in a worse position after the war with Sweden and Finland in NATO, and the whole freaking world conditioned to expect a catastrophe.

    Should Hitler have abandoned the Germans in Danzig? Absolutely.

    • Replies: @Bookish1
  285. denk says:

    CIA>AIPAC IPAC>GREEN>EURO.

    The Green Cold War
    Transatlantic parliamentary alliance launched against China – with substantial involvement of a German Green politician.
    10
    JUN
    2020
    BERLIN/WASHINGTON (Own report) – Politicians from the German Green Party are playing a leading role in a new transatlantic anti-China alliance of legislators. Anti-Chinese hardliners, Marco Rubio and Bob Menendez, are considered the driving forces in the Inter-Parliamentary Alliance on China (IPAC), launched last Friday, currently involving members of twelve parliaments. Officially, the organization seeks to forge a common western policy toward China. A concrete aim appears to be the implementation also in Europe of the US sanctions policy against Beijing. IPAC is mobilizing legislators, there where national governments are still rejecting the sanctions. In the wings of the Munich Security Conference, last February, Reinhard Bütikofer, a Green Party member of the EU parliament had already proposed the creation of such a legislator pressure group. He is now acting as IPAC co-chairman. The alliance, which is calling for the development of “security strategies” against China, has an Ex-CIA specialist on its advisory board.

    https://www.german-foreign-policy.com/en/news/detail/8302

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  286. Dream says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    Of course the Russians are far closer to the Irish than to any South Asian ethnic group. But the Aryans are not any more South Asian than the Russians are Siberian. They are immigrants, that is not their homeland and they do not share their ethnic origin with the indigenous people, the same as the Hungarians and the Finns do not share with the rest of peoples in Europe.

    The Aryans moved to South Asia thousands of years back, they mixed with the natives, and don’t exist anymore. All South Asians have Aryan genes, except some isolated groups like the Sentinelese. The Aryans created India as we know it, so its weird to call them immigrants today.

    The formation of the caste system happened before the migration. The Aryans had encoded it in the Vedas and it spread around the subcontinent along with their religion.

    The modern caste system, where within each Indian ethnic group the upper castes have more Aryan genes, and its practise of endogamy, developed in India long after the Aryans had settled.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_system_in_India#Early_Vedic_period_(1500%E2%80%931000_BCE)

    The data that you have referenced is generic, it does not answer the questions we are discussing. The girls on the photo – the two girls in the front – are white, not blond white but white and that is obvious. That shows that there are people in the region who do not belong to the South Asian ethnic group. According to the Vedas the Aryans came from the north and settled in the northern part of the subcontinent.

    That is your subjective interpretation of their phenotype – something which I don’t agree with. In any case they are absolutely not genetically white/European – there are no such ethnic groups in South Asia. Those are just random North Indian girls – they absolutely belong to some South Asian ethnic group. Everyone with long roots in India is racially admixed. If you are ignorant enough to believe there are long lost white people in India, like some 19th century crackpot, its better not to waste time arguing with you.

    You are confusing the Nazi idea of Aryan race with the actual Aryan people. Neither in the article that you have referenced, nor in the chart can we see any proof of your arguments. There is no such thing as “a summary of modern genetic studies” and it appears that you are not even interested in the reality of this world. You rather seem to be attached to the idea of the Nordic Aryan race – which is a fantasy, and has been refuted.

    It does not matter what the Nazis thought – whites have been calling themselves Aryan long before the Nazis. The Nazis also believed that Aryan Europeans came from Central Asia- which absolutely isn’t true. The genetics of the ancient Indo-Iranians are known, with North Germanics being their closest modern relatives. It’s not some Nazi Aryan fantasy. That’s modern science. You on the other hand have, what seems to me, some weird ideas about Russian-Indian brotherhood. Advice – keep looking up stuff on genetics on the Internet, learn about the Indo-European migrations, look at PCA plots – it will only be a few weeks till you get what I am saying.

    • Replies: @Here Be Dragon
  287. Malla says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    There are white people in the north-west of India, descendants of the Aryans. They do not intermix with the natives. Look at these girls from the northern state of Rajastan. Not only they are white but they have typical Russian faces.

    Please, they make look Whites and may look Russian and I have seen many Indians who look like Slavs with dark skin and all that, the truth is all people in the Indian subcontinent are racially mixed, period. You get dark skinned and light skinned people in the same family. Caucasoid looking and Australoid looking people in the same family. In Indian West Bengal/ Bangladesh and in Orrisa/Assam regions of India and Nepal, you often see Caucasoid looking and Mongoloid looking people in the same family, I have Bengali relatives of upper caste, I am from UP tho. The family has people who would pass as Germans (with heavy tan) and some as Chinese. You do not see that in Russia or Norway or Germany or even China or Japan.
    Indian subcontinent is like Latin America, Brazil on steroids. India is not similar to Russia or Nigeria (as some idiot Afrocentrists think, Indians be blacks like uz an sheet) or even Apartheid South Africa (might have been in ancient times), it is more similar to Brazil.

  288. Malla says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    That shows that there are people in the region who do not belong to the South Asian ethnic group.

    They do not intermix with the natives

    What an idiot, they are South Asians now. The only native South Asians are black Australoid, but no pure black Australoids are left, all got mixed. There were Caucasoid (as well as Mongoloid) migrations into the subcontinent other than Aryans, including the earlier Indus Valley people and post Aryan migrations like Scythians, Khambojas, Tusharas (Tocharians), Kushanas etc… If you think there are White people with no genetic mixing with others in the Indian subcontinent today, you are having some strong booze. Say that shit in India and the entire 1.2 billion population will burst out laughing. Your comment shows, you have never been to the Indian subcontinent and saying bullshit outta your ass. The caste system did not work perfectly like Apartheid South Africa but with time became like Mexico-Brazil. Even the Kalash are probably mixed up by now.

    • Agree: Dream
    • Replies: @Dyauṣpitṛ
  289. @saggy

    That’ll be The End. The Russians will sink every NATO ship in the Black Sea in response, decapitate the orc regime in Banderastan and see if the Yanks really do want to die. Looks like hysterical orc agit-prop, written by some English psychopath from Integrity Initiative, or by some deranged Guardian feminazi.

  290. @denk

    The German Greens are definitely the New Nazis. All that propaganda painting Greens as Nazis, because the Nazis were fond of natural places, has turned out TRUE. Is this the proof of morphic resonance, or that the Gods really are crazy, or that scum who sell out in every sphere, economic and social, are never to be trusted. The German Greens soon became a very vulgar upper middle class obsession, a milieu where Nazi sympathies never dies out, and where race hatred of the non-Europeans is, plainly, very strong. Butikofer-arse-kisser, perhaps.

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
    • Troll: Dream, Petermx
    • Replies: @denk
  291. Richard B says:
    @Anon

    This article is spot on.

    Not exactly.

    Why is Germany sending weapons to Ukraine?

    Because, like the United States, Germany is a vassal of Jewish Supremacy Inc. (JSI). That’s why.

    Don’t they realize these weapons will be used to kill Russian soldiers?

    Of course they do. That’s the point.

    Don’t they realize these weapons will be given to Nazi combatants who tattoo swastikas on their arms and march in torchlight parades?

    Does anyone think that JSI has come this far to let some clown birgade operate as anything other than yet another one of their paid proxies?

    Don’t the German people care about that?

    The German people have had even less say in their destiny since WWII than Americans have. And that’s saying plenty. That’s why the past of both countries has been subject to historical slander and forgery (by using America’s name, flag, and Constitution to hide behind while destroying the country). The same kind of forgery applies not just to an historical perspective, but a contemporary perspective as well . And this can be seen whenever JSI forges America’s signature on its actions. And everyone else, including those who should know better, follows suit, from the Legacy Media to Alternative Media, to Mr. Whitney and The World Socialist Website.

    That’s why The Unz Review is so extraordinary. Speaking of perspective, TUR is giving a voice to the life of the mind and the world of ideas from both a contemporary and historical perspective. That’s why in terms of the Internet it’s sui generis.

    “We cannot allow ourselves to be paralyzed by fear,” Scholz said emphatically.

    Haha! As if Germany hasn’t been living under fear since 1945. And not just Germany.

    But the silliest part of the article, by far, is Mike’s pinning the tail on the Gorbachev donkey. How lazy and irresponsible can you get? Above all, it’s inaccurate.

    There’s never any single causal force to anything. Though that’s not to say that there’s never a primary causal force, one that sticks out above all others. That’s why, from this perspective it’s not at all inaccurate to pin the tail on the JSI donkey. Especially since it’s braying the loudest. And the fact that it’s braying the loudest (they cry while they beat you) is why it’s now pulling all the stops when it comes to propaganda, censorship, coercion and force.

    But there’s a snake in this Garden. You can’t impose your will on the world ad infinitum without eventually destroying the world or yourself.

    And that’s why Maurice Samuels said what he said about his own people, what I’m referring to here as JSI. That they are the destroyers of the world. Because they’re possessed by a single-minded desire to impose their will on the world. The problem isn’t just that they think they’re invincible, but that many of their victims do too. Either way, they’re not invincible anymore than the rest of us are powerless.

  292. ARC says:

    germany does not exist anymore since mai 1945. The entity running under the name germany is a ngo created by the winners of WW2 and ruled by them. We have a proverb here – every monster you ceate comes back to you one day.
    The fight the germans fought ( in WW” ) was only won, because the zionists force one after one from the countrys whose gouvernments thewy have infiltrated. These gouverments brtrayed their own poeple to serve their masters – exactly the people who germany fought against.
    After the war the the US became the home of the zionsists – simply from an economical view. They destroyed everything that once defined the USA. The declaration of independance, the gold standard, the murder of the greatest american people in history and now they have brought the american people down to the deepest ever point of the countrys existence. They are about to move to china now, leaving burned ground. I cannot believe the statements in this article are based on a missing knowledge of the real history or just stupidity – someone must have payed for that – guess who…….

  293. Bookish1 says:
    @saggy

    Hitler couldn’t have abandoned the Germans in Danzig because Hitler was a man of true character with a dedicated Aryan allegiance. He had to be true to himself and there was no other way. Hitler makes todays political leaders look like failed pygmies with no morals. Second rate politicians. Wannabe leaders who don’t have the character to measure up to true leadership.

    • Agree: Carolyn Yeager
  294. @Dream

    You are showing that you are a man of faith – you believe. When there is a belief there is no reasoning. You are also trying to take a pose of standing on the higher ground which is comical. What is the point to answer me if you are not willing to look at my arguments without bias, if you are dead sure that you are better informed and I am ignorant? Did not I tell you that I do not care if you prefer to stay with your illusions? You have a friend here who is a little retarded but he supports your views, why are you talking to me? Talk to him.

    But anyway since you are still arguing, here is where you are wrong.

    First, regarding the caste system. Have you read that article? “During the time of the Rigveda, there were two varnas: arya varna and dasa varna.” That Arya varna was as the name suggests – the Aryans. Later more sophisticated divisions were introduced but it was from the beginning with them. The caste of Brahmins has negligible amount of alien genes because the regulations require to avoid marriages with other castes with the exception of the caste of warriors. The same rule is applied to the caste of warriors as well. Due to that their genetic profile is different.

    There are two generation of Brahmins, the second was a later composed of the local people so there is a difference between them also and it depends on the region.

    Y-DNA haplogroups in populations of South Asia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_in_populations_of_South_Asia

    For example – look at the column with R1a haplogroup, on the right – in the east of the subcontinent 23.2, in the west 35, in the north 48.9 and that is general data. Even this shows that there are different people in the north with different origin but let’s look at specific groups. Bihar Brahmin – 60.53, Uttar Pradesh Brahmin – 67.74, West Bengal Brahmins – 72.22, and that is a lot higher than the average among the Indo-Aryan castes in general – 40.2, and the highest in the subcontinent.

    Other ethnic groups who speak Indo-Iranian languages also have a high percentage of the R1a haplogroup. However the Brahmin caste in all areas has about thirty percent more of that haplogroup. That is because they have a very small degree of admixture due to the regulations of the caste system and they still have their original blood and genome – the predominant haplogroup is R1a.

    Y-DNA haplogroups in populations of Europe
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_in_populations_of_Europe

    Now look at the same data among the Europeans. Haplogroup R1a, we are interested in its amount among the Nordic peoples. Let’s look at the Germanic peoples and the Scandinavians.

    British 9.38, Danes 16.67, Dutch 4.0, Finns 28.9, Germans 23.6, Icelanders 23.76, Norwegians 25.0, Swedes 24.4 – none of the Nordic peoples has a lot of R1a. Look at the Baltic peoples – Estonians 37.3, Latvians 39.5, Lithuanians 36.0 – a lot closer to the R1a ancestors. Now let’s look at the Slavic peoples.

    Belarusians 51.0, Bulgarians 17.5, Czechs 34.2, Macedonians 15.2, Poles 57.0, Russians 59.4, Ruthenians 44.0, Serbs 26.0, Slovenians 38.7, Ukrainians 43.2 – plain and simple, it shows that the Russians and the Poles have the largest amount of the R1a haplogroup in Europe. The Southern Slavic peoples are not as close to the R1a ancestors.

    Since it is self-explanatory there is no need to comment on that but in case you still cannot connect the dots what all of this means is that the Northern Slavic peoples, the Russians and the Poles, share the same haplogroup and therefore the origin with the Brahmins, who are the direct descendants of the Aryans.

    Furthermore the linguistic studies confirm that, because the Russian language has a lot in common with Sanskrit – more than any other language.

    • Replies: @Dream
  295. @Generalfeldmarschall von Hindenburg

    Hermann Goering and Ribbentrop both warned Hitler that the USSR was too big a dog to take down.

    Hitler’s economists also warned that Germany wouldn’t benefit economically because they were so dependent on trade with the USSR.

    But Hitler didn’t want to wait any longer and ordered the war even though the Western front was still open. In his writing he said he wouldn’t make the mistake of two fronts.

    He probably would have pulled it off if they went south to begin with but he was talked into the three prong attack by his generals. Hitler did understand that there was more to war than just blowing up the enemy. He was right to try and starve off Moscow by cutting the Volga instead of attacking the city directly.

    It’s a shame that he wasn’t able to take out the Soviet government and save us all a major headache.

    Putin is no Hitler when it comes to military tactics and seems too arrogant to even bother reading about the basics. When I saw that massive column of Russian armor I knew that they would be in trouble. You don’t parade your armor through the woods of hostile territory. Military basics 101.

  296. @mulga mumblebrain

    Another Nazi fan-boy-a Swede, and we all know how deep are the roots of fascism in Sweden. Russia did NOT ‘invade’ Crimea-a Big Lie. The Crimeans were attacked by your Nazi idols, and had voted already, in the 90s, to rejoin Russia, but were ignored.

    Nazi idols?

    Russia sent in fake separatists and then held a fake vote. Or are we supposed to believe that ethnic Ukrainians voted for a Russian dictatorship? Putin didn’t even make it believable with 97% voting yes. What a joke. No one recognizes that vote and it was their last one.

    If Russians could vote this war would be over.

    The world and the Russian people think this war is stupid.

    Only Putin and a dozen people on Unz think this war is a good idea.

    Putin will be dead by September and the world will spit on his grave. A resentful little loser dictator that thought could he launch a 1939 style invasion.

    I am German-American and I hope the Germans send even more weapons. The German and American howitzers are the best in the world. The M-777 can use a GPS guided shell that will hit a tank every single time. With a 25 mile range the Russians have to either burn missiles or risk putting choppers in the air to take them out. Have fun losers.

  297. Al, yo! says:

    All this fails to mention the tug of the credit markets, esp. those Russian generals at the end of the Soviet era that borrowed big time to kick start imperialism in Russia. From the Japanese. Then the defection of the Ukrainians from Russian loans killing the ability of the Russians to pay back the Japanese. And on and on and yaddy, yaddy.

  298. denk says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Annalena Baerbock’s immaculate credential,…
    London school of economics,
    WEF young leader,
    membership of German Marshall fund..
    mentored by IPAC founding member Reinhard Bütikofer,

    A perfect trojan horse.

    The entire EU is run from USAss.

    Ursula von leyen in Tokyo.
    ww2 axis powers reunited, serving as attack dogs of the anglophone.
    What an irony !

    https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/japan-pm-kishida-confirms-further-cooperation-with-eu-deal-with-russia-2022-05-12/

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  299. @denk

    Germany is a direct successor State to the Third Reich. There was no real ‘de-Nazification’, the BND is a direct descendant of the Gehlen network, the US still controls German politics, the German business elite were barely discomfited, the Left was euthanised by the SDP selling out and the Baader-Meinhof false-flag operation, Germany is totally controlled by the Zionazis consequent to the horrors of WW2 etc, etc.
    Germany is a dead State, ruled by zombies. The transmogrification of the Greens into liberal fascist warmongers is truly hilarious, and deserves a Gunter Grasse to turn it into a novel. Or Thomas Bernhard, more appropriately. Germany is committing slow-motion suicide, driven on by feminazi Harpies.

    • Thanks: Commentator Mike
    • Replies: @Fox
    , @denk
    , @denk
  300. @ariadna

    What happened to you that you’re asking content-free questions that make no sense? What’s your specific substantive criticism of Whitney’s statements?

  301. @mulga mumblebrain

    Wayang, the Indonesian puppet shadow theatre would be the best analogy.

  302. Excellent article, thanks.

    Yes, Putin has every right to protect his country from another foreign invasion.

    Not only is the Russian SMO in Ukraine justified, it is legal.  Russia invoked UN Charter/Article 51, to protect Crimea; DPR; LPR, from the Ukrainian escalation (not just the non-stop bombing since 2014, but the preparation to conquer Crime; DPR; LPR), with evidence. That is why you don’t hear a peep out of the UN against Russia’s SMO.

    Likewise with Finland.  When Finland lost its last war with Russia, it signed a peace treaty, that stipulated it would be neutral in perpetuity.  If it breaks that treaty, there will be hell to pay.

    NATO is evidently not for defence, we have 30 years of NATO aggression. It is not a club that can be “joined”, it is invitation only. And membership is by unanimous vote.  So the evidence is, again, NATO has prepared Finland & Sweden for colonisation, for decades, the big tick is happening now.

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  303. Dream says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    First, regarding the caste system. Have you read that article? “During the time of the Rigveda, there were two varnas: arya varna and dasa varna.” That Arya varna was as the name suggests – the Aryans. Later more sophisticated divisions were introduced but it was from the beginning with them. The caste of Brahmins has negligible amount of alien genes because the regulations require to avoid marriages with other castes with the exception of the caste of warriors. The same rule is applied to the caste of warriors as well. Due to that their genetic profile is different.

    You claimed that “The formation of the caste system happened before the migration”. The Aryans encountered the the Dasas/Dasyus after they had moved into South Asia( the Rig Veda was composed in Punjab). The “Arya” and “Dasa” are not caste divisions, but racial ones. The actual caste system was created later and divides society into 4 castes – Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya and Shudra.

    Brahmins and Kshatriyas have significant amount of non-Aryan genes. ( Steppe_MLBA = Aryan/Indo-Iranian while Iran_N and Onge are pre-Aryan components)

    https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Ajai-Pathak/publication/329451295/figure/fig1/AS:[email protected]/Proportions-of-Ancient-Ancestry-in-South-Asian-Populations-qpAdm-plot-indicating.ppm

    You know nothing about India, so stop posting nonsense.

    For example – look at the column with R1a haplogroup, on the right – in the east of the subcontinent 23.2, in the west 35, in the north 48.9 and that is general data. Even this shows that there are different people in the north with different origin but let’s look at specific groups. Bihar Brahmin – 60.53, Uttar Pradesh Brahmin – 67.74, West Bengal Brahmins – 72.22, and that is a lot higher than the average among the Indo-Aryan castes in general – 40.2, and the highest in the subcontinent……..
    Belarusians 51.0, Bulgarians 17.5, Czechs 34.2, Macedonians 15.2, Poles 57.0, Russians 59.4, Ruthenians 44.0, Serbs 26.0, Slovenians 38.7, Ukrainians 43.2 – plain and simple, it shows that the Russians and the Poles have the largest amount of the R1a haplogroup in Europe. The Southern Slavic peoples are not as close to the R1a ancestors.

    Y-dna haplogroups don’t tell the entire story – they only tell us the paternal line. A mulatto with a Russian father is going to have more R1a than an Englishman , but the Russian father and the Englishman are going to genetically closer to each other. Same is the case for R1a Aryans, R1a Slavs, modern Indians and Nordics. The Indian upper castes are significantly admixed with genes very different from Aryan genes, which makes them very different from modern Slavs and ancient Aryans( and all other whites).

    It is a similar situation for Slavs, Nordics and Aryans. Although Slavs are R1a like the Indo-Iranians, all genetic components taken together( every paternal and maternal line) put Nordics ahead of Slavs in terms of overall genetic similarity to Aryans. Unlike Indians, neither Slavs nor Nordics directly descend from Indo-Iranians, but lack of genetic admixture from non-whites make them both much more similar to Aryans. A good, more recent example would be the case of modern Spaniards, conquistadors and mestizo Mexicans.

    • Replies: @Here Be Dragon
  304. @Here Be Dragon

    @Hic movere labia

    In order to avail yourself to the service, for more than a few days, it may be a good idea to behave in a manner than demonstrates the pride of your race. Regardless of what you think about someone. Otherwise you risk getting categorised early, which may not benefit your needs in the long term.

    Separately, don’t mess with our Carolyn.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  305. By threatening Russia, NATO endangers Germany. Could be the game plan. After all, both the Russians and the Germans are deeply hated by Americans!

  306. @Incisive One

    Russia invoked UN Charter/Article 51, to protect Crimea; DPR; LPR, from the Ukrainian escalation…

    This was a public relations stunt that nobody took seriously except Russian propagandists or trolls like Scott Ritter. Russia can invoke all it wants but it has no legal standing. Russia had no sovereignty over these territories, which themselves were involved in the escalation of each side mutually shelling the other.


    When Finland lost its last war with Russia, it signed a peace treaty, that stipulated it would be neutral in perpetuity. If it breaks that treaty, there will be hell to pay.

    You did not even provide quotes. In any case that treaty was superseded by a newer treaty signed in 1992. (See news report below and notice the word “replaces“.) With two significant falsehoods in one post that can easily be checked you have exposed yourself as yet another disinformation agent.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1992/01/21/russia-finland-sign-political-treaty/84e04ce2-40e9-4b2d-ac5c-843b1174f543/

    Washington Post – 1992

    RUSSIA, FINLAND SIGN POLITICAL TREATY
    HELSINKI, JAN. 20 —

    Finland and Russia signed a political treaty today that dissolved a 1948 agreement limiting Finland’s role in Western Europe and obliging it to help defend the Soviet Union against attack.

    The post-World War II treaty ruled out Finland’s membership in the European Community and gave rise to the term “Finlandization” to describe a weak country accommodating itself to a strong one in order to maintain its autonomy.

    The new agreement — Russia’s first political treaty with a Western country — replaces the 1948 Treaty on Friendship, Cooperation and Mutual Assistance, which required Finland to help defend the Soviet Union against any attack through Finnish territory.

    • Replies: @Incisive One
  307. Fox says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Germany has been murdered in 1945 by the wholesale implementation of an elimination policy that was dressed up and pushed upon an increasingly unbelieving world as revenge. To this day the liars and ports of hatred, aided by the ever-existing sediment of humanity who’d sell their daughters for profit. Hence, what the current Greens and Reds and Yellows and Blacks (these are the colors associated with the establishment parties which produce the show 0f post-War Democracy) are doing is what t5he “Allies” set up beginning with May 23, 1945, when the last legitimate German government was arrested at gunpoint at Flensburg. These men even had to drop their pants.
    The oh-so-clever planners in Washington and London thought they would bag the problem posed by an independent mighty nation in Central Europe forever. Now, there is big, indispensable country (who pays for all the NWO projects?) in a pivotal position in Europe ruled by people who are motivated by guilt, self-loathing, moralistic megalomania and a deathwish that is doing all the crazy stuff you’d expect to be done by people who have lost their mooring in life. And for the German people in general, I think they simply don’t feel that a world that has mobilized all of its resources twice to annihilate them is a place for them anymore. The world’s “cultural” achievements are now based on demonizing Germans, their achievements their blood, their past and future in every expression of “art”, and “science” and “politics” and “ethics” and “morality”. Hence, crazy stuff is happening.
    It is amazing how fast the once-mighty west, the double Victor over the small country of Germany in 1 generation is falling into the abyss. Where’s the fruit of victory? It has now an idiot king as the outward expression of loss of seriousness.
    Russia is the only nation that seems to have come out of the Second World War psychologically healthy, hence you can project future developments.

  308. @Malla

    There’s zero evidence of aryan migration. Not archeological nor gebetics. According to romila thapper, michael witzel etc or any scholars. If anything we have continuation if civilization from early bronze age.

    Genetically you need mass amounts of dna from indian subcontinent which they haven’t gotten so can’t prove conclusivly. We had one female dna from rakhigarhi which suggested most of steppe dna came through female. But even there that evidence is inconclusive. You need to find male dna from india to prive aryan incasion conclusivly. End of story.

    • Replies: @Malla
  309. @Dream

    You are a real fanatic.

    Let me remind you what your initial statement was.

    The original Aryans i.e. Indo-Iranians (Sintashta culture), before mixing with the natives of India and Iran, were genetically closest to modern Nordics.

    You have not presented any credible data from a respectable source to back it up. You have been shown a lot of credible data from a respectable source that discredits your statement. Yet you are still arguing with nothing but incoherent logic trying to prove your point which has been proven to be wrong. Why are you so stubborn?

    It does not matter and makes no sense to get into an argument about the complexities and development of the caste system, because the point was that a particular group of the Aryans avoided mixing and therefore preserved their original genome – that is, their predominant haplogroup remained the same.

    Even a very stupid person should understand that there is no other source of R1a haplogroup in that region, and especially in the light of the information that you referenced before it should be clear even to an idiot that the Aryans had a predominant haplogroup R1a in their genome – confirmed and correlated with the samples from the Sintashta culture.

    Now how on Earth can you still deny the obvious?

    All genetic components taken together (every paternal and maternal line) put Nordics ahead of Slavs in terms of overall genetic similarity to Aryans.

    Where is a material proof of this idiotic claim?

    Pure logic is showing that you are wrong, the common sense is screaming that you are dumb and the indisputable material data proves that you are mistaken. People of the Sintashta culture had the haplogroup R1a. Only 20% of the Nordics have it, whereas 60% of the Russians do and yet the Nordics are ahead of the Slavs, in terms of genetic similarity.

    Go see a doctor, son. You are too stupid for your age.

    [MORE]
    Haplogroup R1a
    https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1a_Y-DNA.shtml

    Proto-Indo-Iranian speakers, the people who later called themselves ‘Aryans’ in the Rig Veda and the Avesta, originated in the Sintashta-Petrovka culture (2100-1750 BCE), in the Tobol and Ishim valleys, east of the Ural Mountains.

    The Sintashta-Petrovka culture, associated with R1a-Z93 and its subclades, was the first Bronze Age advance of the Indo-Europeans west of the Urals, opening the way to the vast plains and deserts of Central Asia to the metal-rich Altai mountains.

    The Indo-Iranian migrations progressed further south across the Hindu Kush. The Indus valley succumbed circa 1500 BCE, and the northern and central parts of the Indian subcontinent were taken over by 500 BCE.

    R1a is generally stronger is the North-West of the subcontinent, and weakest in the Dravidian-speaking South (Tamil Nadu, Kerala, Karnataka, Andhra Pradesh) and from Bengal eastward.

    Over 70% of the Brahmins (highest caste in Hindusim) belong to R1a1, due to a founder effect.

    Nowadays, high frequencies of R1a are found in Poland (57.5% of the population), Ukraine (40 to 65%), European Russia (45 to 65%), Belarus (51%), Slovakia (42%), Latvia (40%), Lithuania (38%), the Czech Republic (34%), Hungary (32%), Norway (27%), Austria (26%), Croatia (24%), north-east Germany (24%) and Sweden (19%).

    • Troll: Incisive One
    • Replies: @Dream
  310. hi folks! says:

    Jewish architect Daniel Libeskind added a transparent arrowhead
    to the façade of the building, creating, according to the Dresden
    Tourism board, “an outwardly visible expression of innovation”.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundeswehr_Military_History_Museum#Architecture

    • Replies: @Incisive One
    , @Fox
    , @Marcali
  311. ” . . . I hear Americans, British and of course Jews talk about WW II all the time still today and the biggest lies are pushed . . .

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=einstein+pacifist&&view=detail&mid=51AE6F92FC14242601E951AE6F92FC14242601E9&&FORM=VDRVSR

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=einstein+pacifist&docid=608011986120635833&mid=0D740DF3B34F6959D2DC0D740DF3B34F659D2DC&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

    I am for better or worse not a pacifist in the traditional meaning of the term — no war under any circumstances and committed in all circumstances to non-violence

    • Replies: @Incisive One
  312. @Been_there_done_that

    Russia can invoke all it wants but it has no legal standing.

    Those of us who respect the law worry about things like that, evidently US/NATO; the Western media; and their mouthpieces do not.

    The evidence that it is legal, is that the UN have said nothing against the Russian SMO. Same as they said nothing against (eg) the Azovstal blockade; surrender; filtration; processing. Whereas the Jew institution has an awful lot to say about other things.

    (Quotes Jew propaganda machine)

    Such an act defines you, a blue-and-yellow macaw, pretending to be scarlet.

    With two significant falsehoods in one post that can easily be checked you have exposed yourself as yet another disinformation agent.

    You check against Talmud; JS: WSJ; NYT; WS; wiki; etc, which is ever-changing, and re-interpret it to suit whatever you are prosecuting at the moment.  Then there are the warring factions that keep changing, that have yet more re-interpretations and websites.  Good on you for keeping up-to-date.

    Truth is permanent.  The rest of the world checks against objective Reality.  

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  313. @EliteCommInc.

    Exactly. Einstein is the greatest plagiarist of all time (look up the manufacture and sale of st einstein). His flatulent “theories” are all crashing now (the plagiarised ones are not, but they are unfortunately not attributed to the real authors). Just another Jew with a knack for twisted quotes, that are interesting to the uneducated, nonsensical to others. His actual achievements are in the Zionist effort and the creation of IsraHell.

  314. @hi folks!

    Jewish architect Daniel Libeskind added a transparent arrowhead
    to the façade of the building

    … thereby desecrating it.

    Ah yes, the Cult of Ugliness strikes again.

  315. Fox says:
    @hi folks!

    Libeskid is no doubt a talentless freak; but so are those who solicited the defacement of the building and then decided for Libeskind’s “design”. No one normal would either design or choose anything as wantonly hateful and destructive as what the building in Dresden has been afflicted with.

  316. Germany killed 27 million Russians in WW2? Absolute balls!

    • Replies: @Marcali
  317. “Exactly. Einstein is the greatest plagiarist of all time (look up the manufacture and sale of st einstein). His flatulent “theories” are all crashing now (the plagiarised ones are not, but they are unfortunately not attributed to the real authors). Just another Jew with a knack for twisted quotes, that are interesting to the uneducated, nonsensical to others. His actual achievements are in the Zionist effort and the creation of IsraHell.”

    I don’t make any c0mments that are relevant to the above references. I walk carefully around Dr. Einstein because of some his personal choices and what they might suggest.

    • Replies: @Incisive One
  318. @John Johnson

    Bows and arrows against the lightning, mein freund…

  319. Lupusalba says:

    Germany is an occupied country controlled by the American Imperial Vampire. The German “elites” are mostly brainwashed to believe all the Big Lies concocted by the occupiers, so they willingly follow the American line. Those who try to represent German interests are demonized as Nazis. As for WWII, the fact is that Hitler offered Stalin an alliance in November of 1941, when Molotov came to Berlin. Stalin wanted ALL of Europe and prepared to invade. The German attack of June 1941 was a preemptive attack only weeks before the planned Soviet strike.

    • Agree: Incisive One, HdC
  320. Malla says:
    @Dyauṣpitṛ

    We had one female dna from rakhigarhi which suggested most of steppe dna came through female.

    Rakhigari was before the Aryan invasion, you buffoon, so to look at Rakhigari for Aryan/Steppe for anything to do with that invasion is stupidity.
    There is accepted proof of Aryan migration but Hinduvadi monkeys cannot swallow this fact.

  321. @EliteCommInc.

    Incisive One:

    Einstein is the greatest plagiarist of all time (look up the manufacture and sale of st einstein). His flatulent “theories” are all crashing now (the plagiarised ones are not, but they are unfortunately not attributed to the real authors). Just another Jew with a knack for twisted quotes, that are interesting to the uneducated, nonsensical to others.

    His actual achievements are in the Zionist effort and the creation of IsraHell.

    I don’t make any c0mments that are relevant to the above references.  I walk carefully around Dr. Einstein because of some his personal choices and what they might suggest.

    Yes, of course, first as a race: the twenty centuries of inbreeding; incest; and perversion, including coprophagy, which is relevant here.  Perverts the intellect as well. And therefore how they ‘think’.  Der Führer understood that, it was called Jewish Science, the perversion of Science in Western Civilisation, since 1911.

    Yes, St Einstein was infamous for his liaisons.  Same as the rest of his race.

  322. Lupusalba says:
    @Anon

    The article is totally off-target. Germany is an OCCUPIED COUNTRY and completely under the thumb of the warmongers in Washington, New York, and London. The so-called Green Party of Germany is essentially the overseas extension in Europe of the Democratic Party of Biden. German patriots, who want to exit NATO. are demonized in Germany’s controlled press as Nazis. Watch Compact tv Der Tag to get a sense of how the anti war national oppression in Germany thinks. The website Junge Freiheit is also worth while.

  323. Dream says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    You are a real fanatic.

    Let me remind you what your initial statement was.

    The original Aryans i.e. Indo-Iranians (Sintashta culture), before mixing with the natives of India and Iran, were genetically closest to modern Nordics.

    I have already posted it above.

    You have not presented any credible data from a respectable source to back it up. You have been shown a lot of credible data from a respectable source that discredits your statement. Yet you are still arguing with nothing but incoherent logic trying to prove your point which has been proven to be wrong. Why are you so stubborn?

    You have the gall to post one BS after another, yet you claim you are the one in the right.

    “Language does not equal genes, but it reflects a degree of proximity between cultures which in turn affects the genes. And sine you said that “Russians are genetically far closer to Irish than they are to Indians” it looks like you really need to do your homework. There is no such thing as ethnic Indians, first of all. Second there is a caste system in Hinduism.”

    “There are white people in the north-west of India, descendants of the Aryans. They do not intermix with the natives. Look at these girls from the northern state of Rajastan.”

    It does not matter and makes no sense to get into an argument about the complexities and development of the caste system, because the point was that a particular group of the Aryans avoided mixing and therefore preserved their original genome – that is, their predominant haplogroup remained the same.

    Again, you claim that Aryans preserved their original genome and avoided mixing – which is obviously false. Upper caste Brahmins have significant amount of non-Aryan genes. Aryan genes come mostly through the male line – of course their Y-dna is going to be R1a. The maternal DNA is predominantly native and non-Aryan.

    Pure logic is showing that you are wrong, the common sense is screaming that you are dumb and the indisputable material data proves that you are mistaken. People of the Sintashta culture had the haplogroup R1a. Only 20% of the Nordics have it, whereas 60% of the Russians do and yet the Nordics are ahead of the Slavs, in terms of genetic similarity.

    Go see a doctor, son. You are too stupid for your age.

    Your “pure logic” is faulty. A mulatto son of Russian man has more R1a than an Englishman. The entirety of genetic heritage matters, not just specific Y-DNA haplogroups.

    • Agree: Incisive One
    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Here Be Dragon
  324. denk says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    DER SPIEGEL

    Germany belongs in the rule based western democracies .
    USAss, warts and all, is far better than totalitarian China any day

    One might sniff at its inanities but such sentiment is widely shared among the mugs in both Germany and Jp.

    Apparently a case of Stockholm syndrome

  325. @Incisive One

    The evidence that it is legal, is that the UN have said nothing…

    Russia’s war of aggression has been condemned by votes in the UN.

    You check against Talmud…

    Citing an article in the Washington Post from more than thirty years ago, that reported the treaty you claimed was still valid had been replaced, has nothing to do with the Talmud.

    You have confirmed your function as a bullshitter and propaganda troll. Now that you have already lied twice – for the second time – will you do it again for a third time?

    • Replies: @Incisive One
  326. denk says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Will Germany remain neutral? Will it lead “Europe’s” charge against China, in the transatlantic alliance? Germany is building up its armament with a crescendo of billions.

    German arms companies were already pushing to have a share in the weaponized ring around China, to “keep China down” from the sea. In the western alliance, Germany is reinforcing that ring, as West Germany before, when it shared logistics and technology, but above all, lots of money and the racist depiction leading to a slaughterhouse in Vietnam.

    Germany is not neutral. It is about to join the front.

    However, unlike before, today’s weapons can reach Berlin directly from Asia’s battlefield. … Don’t be deceived.

    https://www.german-foreign-policy.com/en/textversion-columns/no-8-july-august-2019

  327. Malla says:
    @Dream

    The Paniya jungle tribals of South India have the least of the Caucasoid type DNA it seems (Indus Valley and Aryan). It is interesting because they look most similar to black papuans/Australian aboes. They are also the most Onge.
    there is also this community in Karnataka whose art has strange similarities to Australian Aboes and they worship the buffalo. The whole Aryan cow people vs tribal buffalo people may have some truth after all. In Vedic literature, cow milk is considered excellent for intellect while buffalo milk for bran and muscle building. The story of Hindu goddess Durga killing the semi buffalo demon Mahisasura. South Indian city of Mysore is named after Mahisasura and many adivasi tribals worship Mahisasura. Buffaloes are called “mahis” in many Indian languages.

  328. Soon, Germany will no longer exist at all!

  329. @Dream

    Pal what you are doing now is what we call “can’t see the forest behind the trees.” Let’s do it in brief one or time and that’s it.

    Your initial statement.

    The original Aryans i.e. Indo-Iranians (Sintashta culture), before mixing with the natives of India and Iran, were genetically closest to modern Nordics.

    Yet the samples from the remains of the Sintashta culture people showed that they had the R1a haplogroup, and that was before they allegedly started mixing with the natives. So we know that the original Aryans had the R1a haplogroup.

    [MORE]

    But you still insist that they were genetically closest to modern Nordics despite the fat that only 20% of these Nordics have that haplogroup. What about the rest of them?

    And you are telling me that there is a proof of that proof is a list, found god knows where, but for sure that it was not found on a respectable site and is not based on scientific data because that is not how it’s done. You said that is “a summary of modern genetic studies” but there is no such thing. You have not provided a reference.

    And then we have a new statement, made without a reference.

    All genetic components taken together (every paternal and maternal line) put Nordics ahead of Slavs in terms of overall genetic similarity to Aryans.

    And again there is no data to support it, and even no logic behind it. You are arguing for the sake of argument. You see, women do not migrate without men, and women do not conquer other people — men do.

    You line of reasoning seems to be that these beautiful Nordics, whatever that means were the Aryans who migrated along with their women — to Scandinavia and therefore are purer, whereas the Russians or the Brahmans have been mixing with women from other people, and therefore are not as close to the original Aryans as these fabulous Nordics.

    As far as I understand, that is what has lead to the idea that “a mulatto son of a Russian man has more R1a than an Englishman.” But this is not how it works. There is no more R1a or less R1a — there is either R1a, or something else.

    And if we agree that the Aryan genes come through the male line — “and of course their Y-dna is going to be R1a” then we have to agree, that if the Nordics, whatever they are, were descendants of the Aryans, then the Nordic men would have the haplogroup of their fathers, who would have the haplogroup of their fathers — going back right up to the Aryans.

    And that would have to be the haplogroup R1a.

    However since only 20 percent of these wonderful Nordics have this haplogroup, we cannot consider them to be either direct descendants, or even close relatives of the Aryans — they are like a person whose great grandfather, one of four, was an Aryan and three other were something else, or we can phrase it like this — not more than 20 percent of these Nordics are descendants of the Aryans.

    And to be clear, it does not matter to me and I do not consider the Aryans a super people, like you do, but this is how it is — the Russians and the Poles are the closest relatives of the Aryans, perhaps even their direct descendants. The Russians and the Poles — and not all of them, but 60 percent of them — have the same genome, which they inherited from the Aryans, or which all three of them inherited from their common ancestors.

    And here is another error. Another statement with no basis.

    You claim that Aryans preserved their original genome and avoided mixing — which is false. Upper caste Brahmins have significant amount of non-Aryan genes.

    First of all there is no “upper caste Brahmins” — they are the uppermost caste, and in the article that I referenced in the last comment, which you probably haven’t read it is explained, that “over 70% of the Brahmans belong to R1a, due to a founder effect.” The founder effect is when a group of people do not mix with general population — like the Amish people for example.

    The Brahmins can only marry women from the families of the Brahmins.

    You see, there is no way they could get the R1a gene from other peoples, because those are either the Persians or the Afghans, and are not Hindus, and the Brahmans are Hindu priests. The same way there is no other explanation that 80% of the Nordics do not have the R1a gene, except that they had fathers from a different people — not the Aryans.

    Even if we assume that their mothers were Aryan women that would not be enough, and that would bring up another question — did the Aryan men abandon their women, in favor of other people’s women, the same way as the Aryan women abandoned them in favor of other men, and if that is true then we can understand how they lost their R1a gene.

    Well the Russians and the Poles did not mess with other people’s women that much, and if the men did not mix then the women did not mix either.

    For this reason son it’s Y-DNA that is used to trace people’s origins.

  330. @John Johnson

    I am German-American and I hope the Germans send even more weapons. The German and American howitzers are the best in the world. The M-777 can use a GPS guided shell that will hit a tank every single time. With a 25 mile range the Russians have to either burn missiles or risk putting choppers in the air to take them out. Have fun losers.

    and …
    @peterAUS

    And you should know that teams switching to the new guns there ARE well trained and experienced artillerymen. And, I do know that, for a good 152/155 gunner switching to a new gun doesn’t need to take more than 48 hours of PROPER training, tops. A week is more than enough for the type of warfare we are watching there. Which they ARE getting both there in Germany and some other places as well.
    Add to that fact smart ammunition and, the most important, total battle awareness provided by NATO, well….enjoy the show.

    Well, Lays and Germs, the show has started. Two days of reportage on social media, including Telegram, four videos that I watched.  

    Preliminary

    1  Most US/UK/EU-NATO weapons are stuck in the West (the rail network has been disrupted), they are not getting through to the East. So these are the few that are getting through.
    2  No sign of the ‘smart’ projectiles.  No sign of the ‘smart’ guiding systems (note that the other US weapons depleted their e during the ‘training’ phase, and were thus quite useless).  So these are plain projectiles, fired using manual trajectory calculation.
    3  These are not “shoot and scoot” units, an idiotic American term for mobile units (proper name self-propelled gun, basically a lightly armoured tracked vehicle, with a much larger [than a tank] gun).
    4  These are towed units that take time to set up, and after firing a volley, take down.  This is important because the target can calculate the position of the source from the incoming trajectory, and shoot back (“counter-fire”).  Since the Russians can put satellites in space, they can calculate a trajectory.
    5  Them thar Ebil Wushans are using batteries of self-propelled guns Hyacinth-M, their version of shoot-and-scoot.  And non-electronic trajectory calculation.  In some cases, they do have drones aloft, that report enemy positions.

    The Show

    1  Two videos
    Entire AFU battery with US M-777 battery destroyed.  All servicemen lost.

    2  Two more videos
    Entire AFU battery with 155mm artillery of unknown origin destroyed.  Most servicemen lost, a few wounded found & taken to hospital.

    The Review

    First, the show is too short.  Do not buy popcorn.  Second, the actors are not very good, they appear to be untrained for their particular roles.  The producer, being Jewish, is performing a sacrificial war (their god in Moloch, it demands human sacrifice).  While the spectacle has spiritual significance for him, it is disgusting war porn for humans.

    Zero out of ten.

    You two are fantasising again, loudly, out of touch with Reality.  Too much flatulence and not enough fæces.  Think about changing your god.

  331. @Been_there_done_that

    First, now that you have crossed the line of civility with name-calling, I can too.  Suck it up.

    The evidence that it is legal, is that the UN have said nothing…

    Russia’s war of aggression has been condemned by votes in the UN.

    Imbeciles and Talmudists ( splitting the atom, and engage the fragments, in denial of the indivisibility of the atom ) evidently require a further explanation that un-perveted humans do not need.

    The evidence that the Russian SMO in Ukraine, is an SMO
    __ that requires invocation of the UN Charter/Article 51,
    and that it is a legal SMO
    __ under the UN Charter/Article 51,
    is evidenced by the fact that the UN (any subordinate part) have said nothing about the Russian SMO in Ukraine being illegal
    __ which would require not complying with UN Charter/Article 51.

    Feel free to pluck more hair, and spin a wig, I will just feed it back to you until you choke.

    Citing an article in the Washington Post from more than thirty years ago, that reported the treaty you claimed was still valid had been replaced, has nothing to do with the Talmud.

    1  No, it was you that cited the article.  Blue-and-yellow macaws are so adorable.
    2  No, I did not claim that article was valid, the article is propaganda, quite false.
    3  I reminded people that the treaty is valid (it is not a claim, or by me alone).
    __ For those whose appetite for pig-poop has had a direct effect in the cranium, the execution of a second agreement or treaty (addressing specific issues) does not void or nullify or replace the previous agreement or treaty (addressing different specific issues), unless it specifically states such replacement.
    __ Only the Talmudist organ Warshington Post twists that into “replacement”.
    __ Outside the domain of the WP, both treaties stand.
    4  No, I did not say that citing an article in the Washington Post from more than thirty years ago, that reported the treaty you claimed was still valid had been replaced has something to do with the Talmud.
    __ I said, as evidenced severally, your entire behaviour, your troll actions herein, are Talmudic.  That implies you are a Jew or goyim shill, a Talmudist.  That does something to do with the Talmud, the most burned book in history.
    __ That means you’ve been there, done that, you sleep with swine and eat their excrement.

    The Obsession of the JewWikipedia (public domain)

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  332. @Carolyn Yeager

    Agreed. He is an unwelcome addition to an already excessive array of crazed, bitter and at best uncivil commenters on UR. One can’t help wondering if they are out to destroy it.

  333. @Incisive One

    …under the UN Charter/Article 51…

    There are a variety of reasons why Russia invoking UN Article 51 to try to justify its illegal invasion is a cynical joke and cannot be taken seriously. You can read more about it here, which addresses this matter:

    Understanding the Illegality of Russia’s Invasion of Ukraine – Kieran O’Meara
    https://www.e-ir.info/2022/03/13/understanding-the-illegality-of-russias-invasion-of-ukraine/

    …does not void or nullify or replace the previous agreement or treaty…

    Less restrictive terms of a newer treaty between two parties automatically and necessarily replace any elements of a prior treaty that they may be in conflict with. This is a consequence of basic logical reasoning, which you obviously lack.

    I note that for the third time within less than a day you have spread the same false assertions, even upon having been corrected, yet you still refused to accept the basic facts. I don’t care if you call that “Talmudic” because you are the one making yourself appear ridiculous.

    • Replies: @Incisive One
  334. @Here Be Dragon

    There is also a linguistic argument for a close relationship of Slavs and original Aryans (Indo-Iranians). The Balto-Slavic languages belong with the Irano-Indian languages to the satem group of Indo-European languages. Greek, Italic, Celtic and Germanic belong to the centum group. For further information, see:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centum_and_satem_languages

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Here Be Dragon
  335. Does the White Race have any future?

    • Replies: @Bookish1
  336. Dream says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    Yet the samples from the remains of the Sintashta culture people showed that they had the R1a haplogroup, and that was before they allegedly started mixing with the natives. So we know that the original Aryans had the R1a haplogroup.

    But you still insist that they were genetically closest to modern Nordics despite the fat that only 20% of these Nordics have that haplogroup. What about the rest of them?

    I never claimed the Aryans were not R1a. Overall, yes Nordics are closer to the Aryans, as the the chart shows. You are just obsessed with haplogroups. which don’t tell tell the entire story.

    And you are telling me that there is a proof of that proof is a list, found god knows where, but for sure that it was not found on a respectable site and is not based on scientific data because that is not how it’s done. You said that is “a summary of modern genetic studies” but there is no such thing. You have not provided a reference.

    DNA research papers are not going to show a mere corollary.

    And again there is no data to support it, and even no logic behind it. You are arguing for the sake of argument. You see, women do not migrate without men, and women do not conquer other people — men do.

    You line of reasoning seems to be that these beautiful Nordics, whatever that means were the Aryans who migrated along with their women — to Scandinavia and therefore are purer, whereas the Russians or the Brahmans have been mixing with women from other people, and therefore are not as close to the original Aryans as these fabulous Nordics.

    Russians and Nordics are not descendants of Aryans, as I have said before. Aryans are a name for Indo-Iranians of Sintashta culture and their direct descendents. The Corded Ware peoples (ancestors of Nordics and Russians) did not leave Europe. On the other hand the Sintashta peoples( who were an offshoot of Corded Ware) moved into India inhabited by genetically different peoples – their migration was male dominated. It also doesn’t make sense to put Brahmins and Russians together – the latter are only a bit behind the Nordics in terms of genetic distance to Aryans, whereas the former are now a different race completely.

    [MORE]

    First of all there is no “upper caste Brahmins” — they are the uppermost caste, and in the article that I referenced in the last comment, which you probably haven’t read it is explained, that “over 70% of the Brahmans belong to R1a, due to a founder effect.” The founder effect is when a group of people do not mix with general population — like the Amish people for example.

    The Brahmins can only marry women from the families of the Brahmins.

    Yeah, yeah I know, being an Indian. Brahmins are upper caste. Brahmins from different ethnic groups are genetically different and have different proportions of Aryan DNA. That doesn’t change the fact the Brahmins are brown, very different from their Aryan forbears. Brahmins are less than 70% West Eurasian.

    You see, there is no way they could get the R1a gene from other peoples, because those are either the Persians or the Afghans, and are not Hindus, and the Brahmans are Hindu priests. The same way there is no other explanation that 80% of the Nordics do not have the R1a gene, except that they had fathers from a different people — not the Aryans.

    Even if we assume that their mothers were Aryan women that would not be enough, and that would bring up another question — did the Aryan men abandon their women, in favor of other people’s women, the same way as the Aryan women abandoned them in favor of other men, and if that is true then we can understand how they lost their R1a gene.

    R1a predates Aryans (R1a originated over 20000 years ago). Again, Russians and Nordics are not descendants of Aryans, as I have mentioned before. Aryans refer to Indo-Iranians of Sintashta culture. Aryans were just one subgroup of white people who carried R1a. The people of Sintashta culture were derived from a migration of people from Corded Ware culture of Europe. Aryan migration/invasion into India was male dominated – as invasions often are.
    The ancestors of Nordics and Russians were the Corded Ware peoples who stayed behind in Europe and mixed with racially similar men and women(regardless of their haplogroups).

    • Replies: @Here Be Dragon
  337. Bookish1 says:
    @Twin Ruler

    the white race could easily be the most dynamic, successful people to lead the world with China and everyone else following behind us like baby ducks following their mama if we would get off our asses and adopt Jewish type tribalism and look past our differences and see the benefits to our entire race. If 15,000,000 jews can control the world just think of what the white race could do with our numbers.

  338. Malla says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    Greek, Italic, Celtic and Germanic belong to the centum group.

    Very true, but the interesting thing is that the Tocharian language in North Western China too belonged to the Centum group.

  339. Malla says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    The founder effect is when a group of people do not mix with general population — like the Amish people for example. The Brahmins can only marry women from the families of the Brahmins.

    False, Brahmins have mixed with non Brahmins in the past. There was a huge mixing of castes during a period of time, maybe coinciding with the Buddhist period.

    Sensitivity Over Aryan Migration Due To 2 Misconceptions, Says ‘Early Indians’ Author | The Quint

    • Agree: Dream
  340. @Franklin Ryckaert

    You seem well read and good-tempered.

    This kid I am talking with is not like that, he is a real fanatic. Found some list somewhere that contains no data and is arguing with me that Scandinavians are the Aryans, and that his list is a proof of it. He believes it like the word of God.

    Now he has run out of arguments and started talking about the maternal lineage, although there are no samples of the Aryan mitochondrial DNA. Yet the mitochondrial DNA of the Russians shows that the Russian gene pool is not mixed with Asians, as he thinks.

    The mitochondrial gene pool of Russians are represented by mtDNA types belonging to typical West Eurasian groups.

    Genetic studies on Russians
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Russians

    I have shown him charts, articles, tables and what not. He is irresponsive. I have tried to explain how to figure it out – he could not hear me. At this point I am curious where are the boundaries of his stubborness. I did not expect anyone else to read it.

    Thanks for the link.

    Yes I am aware of the linguistic argument and have also referenced an article, but this kid does not consider it an argument at all. There is a number of articles in fact books about the connection between Russian and Sanskrit.

    Most people believe the relation between Russian and Sanskrit is as distant as that between Persian and Sanskrit or Latin and Sanskrit. Linguist and author W.R. Rishi writes in his book that Russian and Sanskrit share a deeper connection.

    According to Rishi, the relation between these two languages is very close and correspondence between these two languages is so minute that it cannot be attributed to mere chance.

    “The facts lead us to conclude that during some period of history the speakers of Sanskrit and Russian lived close together.”

    Sanskrit and Russian: Ancient kinship
    https://www.rbth.com/blogs/2014/11/01/sanskrit_and_russian_ancient_kinship_39451

    • Replies: @Dream
  341. Dream says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    You seem well read and good-tempered.

    This kid I am talking with is not like that, he is a real fanatic. Found some list somewhere that contains no data and is arguing with me that Scandinavians are the Aryans, and that his list is a proof of it. He believes it like the word of God.

    Seems like you are a Slav trying claim Aryans as your own people, which they are not. Not everyone has a long, illustrious history – so accept it and move on. Love your dishonesty – I have repeated that Nordics/Scandinavians are neither Aryans nor their descendants, but their closest modern relatives.

    Now he has run out of arguments and started talking about the maternal lineage, although there are no samples of the Aryan mitochondrial DNA. Yet the mitochondrial DNA of the Russians shows that the Russian gene pool is not mixed with Asians, as he thinks.

    Nice try – I have never gone for the Russians have Mongoloid blood route.

    I have shown him charts, articles, tables and what not. He is irresponsive. I have tried to explain how to figure it out – he could not hear me. At this point I am curious where are the boundaries of his stubborness. I did not expect anyone else to read it.

    Thanks for the link.

    Yes I am aware of the linguistic argument and have also referenced an article, but this kid does not consider it an argument at all. There is a number of articles in fact books about the connection between Russian and Sanskrit.

    You keep going for the linguistics argument. Every Indo-European language is related to Sanskrit. By many metrics, Lithuanian is the closest European language to Sanskrit. Russian is not special. Latin Americans also speak Spanish, but most of them have Amerindian blood so are different from Spaniards.

    Unfortunately for you, Russians have nothing to do with Aryans, other than being white. The descendants of Aryans are Iranians and South Asians – not Slavs or whites.

  342. @Dream

    Kid I can also argue for sport like you, but if you have nothing to show except for that “chart” with no data and no reference then there is nothing to talk about. But – here we go again.

    The original Aryans i.e. Indo-Iranians (Sintashta culture), before mixing with the natives of India and Iran, were genetically closest to modern Nordics.

    No, because the original Aryans had different ancestors than most of these Nordics, since we know that they belong to different haplogroups. The genes are different — what is so difficult to understand? The Aryans were R1a, and 80 percent of the Nordics are I1, so they cannot be the closest because there are other peoples with higher percentage of R1a, like the Russians and the Poles who possess 60 percent of it, whereas the Nordics have 20.

    Overall, yes Nordics are closer to the Aryans, as the chart shows. You are just obsessed with haplogroups.

    You are supposed to understand now that it is all about haplogroups, if you want to argue about ethnic origin of anybody or any people. There is no other way to tell that, as long as biological content is what we are looking for — that is the blood. The genes, the bodies. Your “chart” does not show anything.

    Anything at all.

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    Russians and Nordics are not descendants of Aryans, as I have said before. Aryans are a name for Indo-Iranians of Sintashta culture and their direct descendants. The Corded Ware peoples are ancestors of Nordics and Russians.

    Yes most probably, and they were also been the ancestors of the Aryans. Like I said as well. But it does not change anything — because we are arguing about the Aryans. However if you want to bring these Corded Ware peoples to the table than read the article first — they were also R1a. But this is not what we are talking about.

    The first major expansion of R1a took place with the westward propagation of the Corded Ware culture from the northern forest-steppe in the Yamna homeland. This was the first wave of R1a into Europe, the one that brought the Z283 subclass to Germany and the Netherlands, and Z284 to Scandinavia. The Corded Ware R1a people would have mixed with the pre-Germanic I1 and I2 aborigines, which resulted in the first Indo-European culture in Germany and Scandinavia, although that culture could not be considered Proto-Germanic — it was simply Proto-Indo-European at that stage, or perhaps or Proto-Balto-Slavic.

    Haplogroup R1a (Y-DNA) — History of R1a
    https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1a_Y-DNA.shtml

    And now you are changing the tune again, and we are all of a sudden no longer are interested in the Aryans. Now these Corded Ware peoples are the topic that we are switching to.

    The ancestors of Nordics and Russians were the Corded Ware peoples who stayed behind in Europe and mixed with racially similar men and women (regardless of their haplogroups).

    Yes for sure both of these mixed with similar men and women, except that Nordics mixed a lot more, and that is the reason there are 20 percents of the Corded Ware R1a gene among them, and not 60, like among Poles and Russians. You can count on fingers kid — it’s basic algebra. Don’t be so stubborn.

    It also doesn’t make sense to put Brahmins and Russians together — the latter are only a bit behind the Nordics in terms of genetic distance to Aryans, whereas the former are now a different race completely.

    We are not putting them together, we are using them to confirm that the Aryans had the dominant R1a gene. We are not talking about the Brahmins — we are talking about their ancestors.

    That doesn’t change the fact the Brahmins are brown, very different from their Aryan forbears.

    Yes, so what? The Russians are still fair-haired and blue-eyed.

    No matter at what angle we look at it, there will be the same result all the time — Poles and Russians are the closest descendants of the Corded Ware culture people and the closest relatives of the Aryans, and this is a material fact — it’s biological. You can’t fake it, can’t make it up, because it’s countable.

    So stop arguing son. You are looking stupid.

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  343. Dream says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    No, because the original Aryans had different ancestors than most of these Nordics, since we know that they belong to different haplogroups. The genes are different — what is so difficult to understand? The Aryans were R1a, and 80 percent of the Nordics are I1, so they cannot be the closest because there are other peoples with higher percentage of R1a, like the Russians and the Poles who possess 60 percent of it, whereas the Nordics have 20.

    No, Y-DNA haplogroups do not tell us overall genetic similarity. If that were true then Russians would closer to Indians, which they are not. Imagine being this dense.

    You are supposed to understand now that it is all about haplogroups, if you want to argue about ethnic origin of anybody or any people. There is no other way to tell that, as long as biological content is what we are looking for — that is the blood. The genes, the bodies. Your “chart” does not show anything.

    Anything at all.

    You just don’t want to accept it.

    Yes for sure both of these mixed with similar men and women, except that Nordics mixed a lot more, and that is the reason there are 20 percents of the Corded Ware R1a gene among them, and not 60, like among Poles and Russians. You can count on fingers kid — it’s basic algebra. Don’t be so stubborn.

    The haplogroup argument is doesn’t apply. No need to keep repeating it.

    We are not putting them together, we are using them to confirm that the Aryans had the dominant R1a gene. We are not talking about the Brahmins — we are talking about their ancestors.

    You kept claiming Brahmins are unmixed, despite being told and shown otherwise.

    Yes, so what? The Russians are still fair-haired and blue-eyed.

    No matter at what angle we look at it, there will be the same result all the time — Poles and Russians are the closest descendants of the Corded Ware culture people and the closest relatives of the Aryans, and this is a material fact — it’s biological. You can’t fake it, can’t make it up, because it’s countable.

    So stop arguing son. You are looking stupid.

    No, Nordics are the closest modern group to both Corded Ware and Sintashta.

    Corded Ware ancestry is highest among Northwestern Europeans, though Russians are quite close.

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  344. @Dream

    Are you being serious or is it some kind of trolling — I’m puzzled. You can’t really be that stupid. Perhaps there is a mental issue, or something? This is not sane, buddy. You need to stop and learn something new. There is no shame in it.

    Seems like you are a Slav trying claim Aryans as your own people, which they are not. Not everyone has a long, illustrious history — so accept it and move on.

    Did I not tell you that I don’t care about the Aryans, it’s common sense and the truth that I care about. And Russia does have a long an illustrious history, son. The Russians have accomplished a lot, a lot more than most other peoples, and more than some with a longer history. The Russians don’t need the Aryans to be considered a great people.

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    Nice try — I have never gone for the Russians have Mongoloid blood route.

    That was implied. Otherwise, how could you even assume that the Nordic peoples were closer to the original ancestors than the Russians are? That assumption implies that the Russians must have been mixed with some non-European peoples. Since mixing with Finno-Ugric and Baltic peoples would not make them less European, less blond, less light skinned than these Nordics.

    You keep going for the linguistics argument. Every Indo-European language is related to Sanskrit. By many metrics, Lithuanian is the closest European language to Sanskrit.

    What metrics, there are no metrics in linguistics. You have said that before — have you found the proof? Because I referenced a book of a Hindu linguist. You keep quoting yourself. Excuse me but you are not a linguist. Your opinion doesn’t matter. Show me an opinion of an expert. Someone with competence in the field.

    And consider this — every Indo-European language is related to Sanskrit but this relation is not the same. The degree of proximity is not the same. And according to the Hindu linguist Russian is the only European language that shares as much grammatical similarities with Sanskrit. This is harder than DNA, so we stopped using it as an appeal to your logic. That was mentioned for another person.

    Unfortunately for you, Russians have nothing to do with Aryans, other than being white. The descendants of Aryans are Iranians and South Asians — not Slavs or whites.

    Dude if there is a lot of common ground in the languages, that means that the peoples used to live close to each other for a long time. And if there is a lot in common between their genome, that means that the two peoples had the same ancestors. You can speculate whether one is a descendant of the other, or both are the descendants of another — it doesn’t matter.

    The question of this argument is whether the Russians or the Scandinavians are closer to the Aryans, and now to an extent to the Corded Ware culture people. You brought it up.

    No, Y-DNA haplogroups do not tell us overall genetic similarity. If that were true then Russians would be closer to Indians, which they are not. Imagine being this dense.

    Yes this is dense indeed. Why would the Russians be loser to Indians, they would have to spend a few hundred years in India to get any closer to them. As I have referenced above the maternal lineage of the Russians is 99% West Eurasian.

    You just don’t want to accept it.

    The list that some kind of no-name made on his home PC, that is not based on a scientific research and is not referenced on a credible website? Of course, I don’t want to accept it — it makes no sense. Bring me a respectable reference.

    The haplogroup argument is doesn’t apply. No need to keep repeating it.

    You really must be trolling. But you are not, are you? You simply still don’t understand that it is all about the haplogroups. You should never ever talk about these things again. Ever.

    You kept claiming Brahmans are unmixed, despite being told and shown otherwise.

    Being told maybe, but shown – when? You have been shown the real statistics. Their dominant haplogroup has remained R1a. Almost 70 percent of the Brahmans have the Aryan R1a gene. There is no other reason for them to have this gene, or will we now argue that they could have inherited it from the Afghans or Persians?

    No, Nordics are the closest modern group to both Corded Ware and Sintashta.

    Here we go again. This is stupid.

    Corded Ware ancestry is highest among Northwestern Europeans, though Russians are quite close.

    You are an amazing man. You are something.

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  345. @Been_there_done_that

    There are a variety of reasons why Russia invoking UN Article 51 to try to justify its illegal invasion is a cynical joke and cannot be taken seriously.

    Of course.  Those who want to not-take-it-seriously have an intent (legal term), so they concoct any number of “reasons”.  That does not change the objective reality of the invocation of UN Charter/Article 51, that only changes the subjective “reality” of those with that criminal intent.  

    Further, it proves they are pathologically insane (denial of reality; fabrication of a private “reality).  

    Trumpet that on the propaganda machine and you produce what we have: propaganda that the sheep believe as “reality”.  That produces a collective “reality” that is in violent contradiction with reality, which is what we have, the echo chamber on CNN/MSN/etc. This argument is an example.  The tactic is given in the Talmud, the strategy is given in the Protocols.

    Those who know the law, who understand reason, who are attached to reality, remain unchanged.

    The sheep and the instruments of evil (you) have to busy themselves maintaining the concocted “reality”, because reality keeps puncturing it (as I did to yours). The sheep are forever surprised when their fantasy is punctured, but they are used to “facts” that keep changing.  Insanity.  Mental masturbation.  I have no problem with you doing that, I have a problem when you attempt to infect others.

    You can read more about it here, which addresses this matter:

    How precious. You think that I am going to read the propaganda, the subjective “reality” of criminals.  Thanks but no, I keep my mind free of filth, free of the excretions of those with a criminal intent.  I do not argue with their excrement, I call it out for what it is, which act destroys it.

    But programmed imbeciles such as you, in schizophrenic denial of the reality that your bubble has been punctured, keep on trucking.

    Less restrictive terms of a newer treaty between two parties automatically and necessarily replace any elements of a prior treaty that they may be in conflict with.

    Hysterical.  The subjective “reality” in violent contradiction with reality.  The prior treaty is “remain neutral, in perpetuity“, which is a legal term, it means it cannot be replaced.

    This is a consequence of human reasoning, which due to your diet of pig poop, evidently lack.

  346. “Yes, of course, first as a race: the twenty centuries of inbreeding; incest; and perversion, including coprophagy, which is relevant here. Perverts the intellect as well. And therefore how they ‘think’. Der Führer understood that, it was called Jewish Science, the perversion of Science in Western Civilisation, since 1911.

    Yes, St Einstein was infamous for his liaisons. Same as the rest of his race.”

    I am not sure what it is you would like me to say here. My comments were to the articles contend about refighting WWII by Germany. As I understand it neither Germany nor the rest of Western europe or most of Eastern Europe is interested in rearguing German expansion ambitions which started pre 1939.

    That today in 2022, the only nation seeking to refight that effort is Russia. Jews did not incite German expansion aims or the aims of modern Russia. There is a parallels which could be made but the article does not make it.

    Advocates for the Russian invasion can certainly argue their case, it is weak in my view, and turns in on itself. And I certainly understand why there is so much time and effort in making a dust bowl contention or multiple such attempts to avoid the central issue.

    Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in in error and the rationale to do so does make the grade, even her own calls on leaning on the OSCE rebuke her actions.

    Coupled with her threats of war and nuclear war it is a matter that simply cannot be permitted to stand.

    Don’t hate Russia
    Don’t hate Russians
    Don’t hate Pres Putin

    Not a fan of Nazism, transgender advances for political advantage – that is a private matter, same relational conduct, as is generally understood but that is an issue for Ukrainians to work out as a sovereign nation as is nearly every complaint made, including whether Ukraine wants to be a buffer defense region for Russia proper. Her choice and no one else’s.

    ——

  347. Dream says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    Are you being serious or is it some kind of trolling — I’m puzzled. You can’t really be that stupid. Perhaps there is a mental issue, or something? This is not sane, buddy. You need to stop and learn something new. There is no shame in it.

    Physician, heal thyself.

    That was implied. Otherwise, how could you even assume that the Nordic peoples were closer to the original ancestors than the Russians are? That assumption implies that the Russians must have been mixed with some non-European peoples. Since mixing with Finno-Ugric and Baltic peoples would not make them less European, less blond, less light skinned than these Nordics.

    No, that was not implied. European ethnic groups are not genetically indisguishable. Austrians are not as close to the Aryans as Nordics, that doesn’t mean Austrians have Mongoloid or Sub-Saharan blood.

    What metrics, there are no metrics in linguistics. You have said that before — have you found the proof? Because I referenced a book of a Hindu linguist. You keep quoting yourself. Excuse me but you are not a linguist. Your opinion doesn’t matter. Show me an opinion of an expert. Someone with competence in the field.

    And consider this — every Indo-European language is related to Sanskrit but this relation is not the same. The degree of proximity is not the same. And according to the Hindu linguist Russian is the only European language that shares as much grammatical similarities with Sanskrit. This is harder than DNA, so we stopped using it as an appeal to your logic. That was mentioned for another person.

    “Metric” is a figure of speech. Here are some articles about the similarity between Lithuanian and Sanskrit.

    “It is a common belief that there is a close similarity between the Lithuanian and Sanskrit languages; Lithuanian being the European language grammatically closest to Sanskrit.”
    http://vilnews.com/2011-04-incredible-indian-lithuanian-relations-2

    http://autarmota.blogspot.com/2017/03/ancient-link-between-sanskrit-and.html

    “Surprisingly, Lithuanian is also thought to be the closest surviving European relative to Sanskrit, the oldest written Indo-European language, which is still used in Hindu ceremonies.”
    https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20180319-are-lithuanians-obsessed-with-bees

    Russian isn’t special.

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    Yes this is dense indeed. Why would the Russians be loser to Indians, they would have to spend a few hundred years in India to get any closer to them. As I have referenced above the maternal lineage of the Russians is 99% West Eurasian.

    Stop using the R1a argument to claim that Russians are to closest to Aryans, then. You also objected previously to the fact that Russians are closer to Irish than to Indians, which is outrageous.

    The list that some kind of no-name made on his home PC, that is not based on a scientific research and is not referenced on a credible website? Of course, I don’t want to accept it — it makes no sense. Bring me a respectable reference.

    You base your beliefs on rambling on linguistics and one specific haplogroup, mate. Genetic distance and PCA maps are far more reliable.

    You really must be trolling. But you are not, are you? You simply still don’t understand that it is all about the haplogroups. You should never ever talk about these things again. Ever.

    Your haplogroup argument is based on one single haplogroup on the male line.

    Being told maybe, but shown – when? You have been shown the real statistics. Their dominant haplogroup has remained R1a. Almost 70 percent of the Brahmans have the Aryan R1a gene. There is no other reason for them to have this gene, or will we now argue that they could have inherited it from the Afghans or Persians?

    Are you incapable of interpreting charts?

    https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Proportions-of-Ancient-Ancestry-in-South-Asian-Populations-qpAdm-plot-indicating_fig1_329451295

    No matter how you look at it, Nordics are closest to Aryans. Here’s a PCA using RUS_Sintashta_MLBA coordinates. Not my fault you don’t get genetics.

    • Replies: @Here Be Dragon
  348. @Incisive One

    You think that I am going to read the propaganda, the subjective “reality” of criminals. Thanks but no, I keep my mind free of filth, free of the excretions of those with a criminal intent.

    Your entire rant exposes your closed-minded and brainwashed attitude, a kind of escapism. You are living in a trance state, within a parallel mental universe that has no objective validity because it is logically contradictory. You are not going to convince a single rational-minded reader that your delusional interpretation of international law on the two issues you raised is correct and can therefore only appeal to other idiots. Your behavior is a typical response of trolls who have casually spread false information, in the false presumption of not being challenged, and were subsequently exposed as bullshitters.

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  349. @Incisive One

    The prior treaty is “remain neutral, in perpetuity“, which is a legal term, it means it cannot be replaced.

    To further underscore your ignorance and inclination toward wild fabrications, which your message is full of, it should also be pointed out that you have provided no source whatsoever for your quote in bold letters. Here is a link to the actual English language text of the 1948 treaty between Finland and the USSR:

    http://heninen.net/sopimus/1948_e.htm

    It is easy to verify that neither the words neutral nor perpetuity appear therein. Finland was thus not obliged by the treaty to be neutral. It chose to take this position. A reference to perpetuity in a treaty between countries would seem highly unlikely because no country would even pretend to permit itself to be constrained to certain conditions in perpetuity, much less those that affect its own security. Even a formal legislative declaration of perpetual neutrality, as occurred in Austria in 1955, is only valid for the period in which it remains in force and is therefore subject to reversal, as circumstances change.

    …diet of pig poop…

    This web sites attracts many Jewish commentators who operate as paid trolls to flood the commentary sections with false Russian propaganda narratives. It is a very easy job, just engage in the same Hasbara tactics as before, only instead of accusing their opponents of being an “ant-Semite” or “Jew-hater” or “Racist” if they cannot contradict an argument, they type instead on their keyboards such terms as “Jew” or “Talmudic” or “Pilpul“. It is really a simplistic modus operandi, quite easy to recognize. I know because they do it to me regularly.

    By gratuitously invoking “pig poop” you have unwittingly outed yourself. In many European cultures a pig is an animal associated with good luck. This is also true in Chinese culture, where the pig is one of the 12 animals of the lunar years. In American culture the term “piggy bank” is associated with fortune. Obviously you have internalized a different connection to the term pig and were mentally trapped into reflexively exhibiting this perspective in your comment because you temporarily forgot that the intended readership lives in a different environment from your own. So now that you have been outed you can reveal to us, from what militant Jewish settlement in the illegally occupied territories of Palestine you are typing your nonsense from.

    https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2376474/jewish/Pigs-Judaism.htm

    Pigs & Judaism

    There is probably no animal as disgusting to Jewish sensitivities as the pig. It’s not just because it may not be eaten: there are plenty of other animals that aren’t kosher either, but none of them arouse as much disgust as the pig.

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  350. Marcali says:
    @hi folks!

    Correctly: “an outwardly visible expression of madness”

  351. Marcali says:
    @Shivermebeak!

    Yes, because this number covers only the “military deaths”:

    „But we have a series of estimates, most of them working independently from one another. The figure of 27 million Soviet war death must therefore be taken as the minimum figure for military deaths, as opposed to the German figure of 2,416,784 killed and missing, this latter category including all prisoners of war, some of whom eventually returned alive from the Gulag.”
    (John Mosier: Deathride, Hitler vs. Stalin: the Eastern Front, 1941-1945, Simon & Schuster, 2010, p. 338.)

  352. @Been_there_done_that

    Your entire rant exposes your closed-minded and brainwashed attitude

    So freaking what.
    I am brainwashed to accept the single objective reality, and all that flows from that, you are brainwashed to reject reality and instead believe (faith, not reason) the collective, subjective “reality”, as evidenced.  Deal with it.

    You are living in a trance state, within a parallel mental universe …

    The objective reality, the universe, does not have those concepts, they are foreign.  Your concocted collective “reality” has those, along with transgenderism; climatism; etc.  Thanks for producing solid proof of yourself.

    logically contradictory.

    There you go again, soiling yourself, all on your own.  The logical excludes contradiction, contradiction is illogical.  But you have “logically contradictory”.  Hysterical, the domain of the insane.

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  353. The logical excludes contradiction, contradiction is illogical.

    When a logical process, which I alluded to, leads to a contradiction, this is called reductio ad absurdum, which is a method of proving that a disputed proposition, by logically following its deductive implications, is indeed false. This is exactly what your phony claims have shown; they are illogical. By extension, then, you are the essence of absurdity.

    • LOL: Incisive One
  354. @Dream

    Here we go again… You are one stubborn Hindu.

    No, that was not implied. European ethnic groups are not genetically indisguishable. Austrians are not as close to the Aryans as Nordics, that doesn’t mean Austrians have Mongoloid or Sub-Saharan blood.

    That was implied whether you intended to say that or not. The Russians are not Austrians. There are only Finno-Ugric and Baltic peoples living around, all others are Mongoloid.

    Here are some articles about the similarity between Lithuanian and Sanskrit. Russian isn’t special.

    Lithuanian and Russian belong to the same language family. Of course there are similarities between Lithuanian and Sanskrit, if there are similarities between Sanskrit and Russian. But only a linguist an determine whih language is closer to another. You are not a linguist.

    Stop using the R1a argument to claim that Russians are to closest to Aryans, then. You also objected previously to the fact that Russians are closer to Irish than to Indians, which is outrageous.

    No, I said of course the Russians are closer to the Irish – in general, but I pointed out that there’s no such thing as Indians, speaking of ethnicity. The Russians are closer to the Brahmins than to the Irish – that’s what I said.

    You base your beliefs on rambling on linguistics and one specific haplogroup, mate. Genetic distance and PCA maps are far more reliable.

    PCA maps is not what is used in genetic studies. And I’m afraid you still don’t understand what a haplogroup is. All this talk we are having is about haplogroups. That’s what it is, no matter how we call it.

    “A haplogroup is a genetic population group of people who share a common ancestor on the patriline or the matriline.”
    https://isogg.org/wiki/Haplogroup

    Your haplogroup argument is based on one single haplogroup on the male line.

    Yes, and on the fact that the Russian mitochondrial haplogroup is 98.5 percent West Eurasian. You on the other hand can’t present any data of the Aryan mitochondrial haplogroup – we don’t have any samples.

    Here’s a PCA using RUS_Sintashta_MLBA coordinates. Not my fault you don’t get genetics.

    You don’t get it, stupid 🙂

    • Replies: @Dream
  355. Dream says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    That was implied whether you intended to say that or not. The Russians are not Austrians. There are only Finno-Ugric and Baltic peoples living around, all others are Mongoloid.

    You interpreted it the way you wanted to, I guess.

    Lithuanian and Russian belong to the same language family. Of course there are similarities between Lithuanian and Sanskrit, if there are similarities between Sanskrit and Russian. But only a linguist an determine whih language is closer to another. You are not a linguist.

    Good to see you agree that Russian is not special in that regard.

    No, I said of course the Russians are closer to the Irish – in general, but I pointed out that there’s no such thing as Indians, speaking of ethnicity. The Russians are closer to the Brahmins than to the Irish – that’s what I said.

    No Indian ethnic group or caste is as close to Russians as Irish are – including Brahmins – that should be obvious.

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    PCA maps is not what is used in genetic studies. And I’m afraid you still don’t understand what a haplogroup is. All this talk we are having is about haplogroups. That’s what it is, no matter how we call it.

    “A haplogroup is a genetic population group of people who share a common ancestor on the patriline or the matriline.”

    Your argument that Russians are closest to Aryans is based on two flimsy premises – that Russians are R1a and that Russian and Sanskrit share similarities. Being high in R1a is not an indicator of overall genetic similarity to Aryans as Brahmins also have high amount of R1a, yet are not particularly close to Russians, who are also high in R1a. The reason is that entirety of genetic heritage matters, and since Brahmins are predominantly non-Aryan( and non-white) on their maternal line, they differ genetically from their Aryan ancestors. The linguistic argument shouldn’t even be regarded. Genetic distance is far more reliable.

    Yes, and on the fact that the Russian mitochondrial haplogroup is 98.5 percent West Eurasian. You on the other hand can’t present any data of the Aryan mitochondrial haplogroup – we don’t have any samples.

    There is intra-group variation within Europeans.

    • Replies: @Here Be Dragon
  356. @Been_there_done_that

    You are so stupid, you can’t obtain the relevant treaty, you grab the wrong treaty and gee whiz, the item isn’t there.  Hysterical.  I give up, I will not be wasting more of my time on you.

    A parting gift for you:

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  357. @Incisive One

    …the relevant treaty, you grab the wrong treaty and gee whiz, the item isn’t there.

    Q: What do you think is the “relevant treaty“, and why didn’t you provide a link to it?
    A: Because it only exists in your imagination.

    In any case, if the treaty you imagine was superseded by a newer one, it is no longer relevant.

    • LOL: Incisive One
  358. Derer says:
    @coolhand850

    This picture was taken from Buchendwald…Germany’s idea of good government.

  359. Derer says:
    @Frank Walus

    What Russian isolation? From 195 countries 154 did not join American desperate sanctions against Russia. Europe’s economy is collapsing, clean your glasses.

  360. @Dream

    You are misunderstanding me again.

    No Indian ethnic group or caste is as close to Russians as Irish are – including Brahmins – that should be obvious.

    Of course not, but we entioned the Brahmins in connection with the Aryans, pointing out that both had the same paternal ancestors – of the R1a group.

    Being high in R1a is not an indicator of overall genetic similarity to Aryans as Brahmins also have high amount of R1a, yet are not particularly close to Russians, who are also high in R1a.

    The R1a factor is the only genetic data available, so any biological similarity to the Aryans can only be deterined through that link.

    The linguistic argument shouldn’t even be regarded. Genetic distance is far more reliable.

    No it isn’t. Linguistic similarities cannot be coincidental.

    • Replies: @Dream
  361. @Anon

    Take your medication – Arschloch !

  362. I love this site : Every loon and Jew-haters are wanking in their basements writing this well …..Scheisse !

  363. Dream says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    The R1a factor is the only genetic data available, so any biological similarity to the Aryans can only be deterined through that link.

    This is ridiculous, of course we have genetic data – autosomal SNPs.
    If a man is haplogroup R1a it means his father, his father’s father, his father’s father’s father and so on are also R1a, nothing more than that. Y-DNA haplogroups pass from father to son. It is useful for indicating patrilineal descent, nothing more. We also have mtDNA of Aryans, unlike what you claimed, but that isn’t important here.
    Allentoft 2015 analyzed the remains of four individuals ascribed to the Sintastha culture. One male carried haplogroup R1a and J1c1b1a, while the other carried R1a1a1b and J2b1a2a. The two females carried U2e1e and U2e1h respectively.[
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sintashta_culture

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6822619/#!po=8.28221

    If you are interested in knowing why Nordics cluster closer to Sintashta:
    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?16244-Why-are-most-east-Euros-further-from-MLBA-steppe-than-northern-western-central-Euros

    No it isn’t. Linguistic similarities cannot be coincidental.

    Not necessary when we have genetic data.

    • Replies: @Here Be Dragon
  364. @Dream

    The reference to an internet forum does not tell me a thing. There is that same list without data, it makes no sense.

    The mtDNA haplogroup of the Sintastha culture women is, the same as Y-DNA R1a, most widespread among the Russians.

    As we can see there is no presence of U2 in Scandinavia, save for 1-2% in Denmark and the area in the south of Sweden.

    • Replies: @Dream
  365. Dream says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    The reference to an internet forum does not tell me a thing. There is that same list without data, it makes no sense.

    It would, if you were a bit more willing.

    The mtDNA haplogroup of the Sintastha culture women is, the same as Y-DNA R1a, most widespread among the Russians.

    Not Russians, no. Its frequent among Udmurts, Mordvins and North Caucasians, who are a part of Russia.
    Haplogroup U2 is rare lineage very homogeneously spread across most of Central Asia, Europe, the Middle East and North Africa, with a frequency typically ranging from 0.5% to 2%. Only a few isolated ethnic groups, mostly in the Volga-Ural and North Caucasus regions, have frequencies above 3%. This includes the Uralic-speaking Udmurts (10%) and Mordvins (7%), as well as the Karachay-Balkars (4.5%), Nogays (3.8%), North Ossetians (3.6%), Adyghe-Kabardin (3.6%) and Dargins (3.6%) in the North Caucasus, and the Latvians (3.5%) in the East Baltic.”

    • Replies: @Here Be Dragon
  366. @Dream

    Yes more frequent among Udmurts, Mordvins and North Caucasians. But we are not talking about them, we compare the Russians with the Scandinavians.

    Let’s now sum it up.

    We have two men and two women from the Sintashta culture. The men belong to R1a group and the women to group U2.

    Among the Scandinavians 20% belong to R1a and 1-2% belong to U2 – in Denmark and the south of Sweden. Among the Norwegians 20% belong to R1a but less then 1% of the to U2.

    Among the Russians 50-60% belong to R1a and up to 5-6% to U2 – in the west, and in other areas, the same as the Danes 1-2% belong to that group.

    Conclusion.

    The Russians are a lot closer to the people of the Sintashta culture.

    • Replies: @Dream
  367. Dream says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    Not really, haplogroups tell us only the maternal( mother-daughter) and paternal line( father-son).

    Here’s a PCA from a scientific article – Sintashta clusters with North, Central and Western European populations.

    https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aat4457

    • Thanks: Malla
    • Replies: @Here Be Dragon
  368. @Dream

    “Ancient genomes suggest the eastern Pontic-Caspian steppe as the source of western Iron Age nomads”

    Look, pal.

    You are a sick person. You need to see a doctor and do it now because it’s gonna get worse.

    Yes I’ve read all of this article – which is absolutely irrelevant, doesn’t relate to the topic and contains no information, that would either directly or even remotely support your obsessive theories.

    Do not reply.

    • Replies: @Dream
  369. Dream says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    You need not read the entire article, just examine the illustration minutely.
    There’s a legend on the left of the illustration( part A), there in the Bronze Age section you will find the symbol for Sintashta, a blue circle with a red boundary.
    On the PCA map to the right of the illustration( part C), within the dotted orange circle representing North, West and Central European populations, you will see the symbols for Sintashta( at 11’O clock).

    • Replies: @Here Be Dragon
  370. @Dream

    You really think that I can’t read the chart?

    “On the PCA map to the right of the illustration, within the dotted orange circle representing North, West and Central European populations, you will see the symbols for Sintashta.”

    You need to read the entire article – not me. You probably can’t even comprehend it. Let’s read it together.

    We produced genome-wide sequence data for 35 Bronze Age and Iron Age individuals from the Pontic-Caspian steppe from four cultural groups, which comprise 13 Srubnaya-Alakulskaya individuals, 3 Cimmerians, 14 Scythians, and 5 Sarmatians.

    First of all, the article is about migrations of Caspian steppe nomads to the west. Russia is not represented in this research whatsoever – the focus is on Europe. Second, among the samples are Cimmerians, Sarmatians, Scythians and the Srubnaya culture people. All four are considered to have been Iranian tribes. The Sintashta culture symbols included in the chart relate to a different research, mentioned in the references.

    Principal component analysis (PCA) plot visualizing 35 Bronze Age and Iron Age individuals presented in this study, and in published ancient individuals in relation to modern reference panel from the Human Origins data set.

    The Human Origins data set is related to the figure B of the chart – “Map showing the locations of ancient individuals sequenced in this study, and the locations of previously published ancient individuals used in comparative analyses” – and on this map we see two samples of the Sintashta people, located in Poland.

    These are the very same two samples that we see in the PCA plot – figure C, within the dotted orange circle representing North, West and Central European population – which includes Poland.

    This research doesn’t answer the question whether the Russians or the Scandinavians are closer or further to the people of the Sintashta culture. The data presented here is a proof of presence of the Sintashta people lineage in the Central Europe, which we know about. To determine the degree of relatedness of any people to another people we need to compare their haplotypes.

    As we remember among the Sintashta culture people that were sampled, “One male carried haplogroup R1a and J1c1b1a, while the other carried R1a1a1b and J2b1a2a. The two females carried U2e1e and U2e1h.” As we have seen, haplogroup R1a is three times more frequent in Russia than in Scandinavia. The same with haplogroup U2. Regarding haplogroups J1c and J2b see the articles below.

    Haplogroup J in general is spread throughout Europe, with the highest parameters in its region of origin in the south of the Ural Mountains, and even higher in Persia. And in Europe the frequency ranges from 3 to 12 percent, the highest percentage is in the UK region, and in Scandinavia as well as in Russia it’s about 7%.

    More specific data with respect to subgroups J1c and J2b is showing that the highest percentage is found, for J2b – in the south of the Ural Mountains area and in the Balkans, going up to 10% there and the lowest percentage in Europe is in Scandinavia where only in the north of Sweden there is a presence of 1-2% – which must be the Sámi people. For J1c there is no statistics and it appears to be having died out.

    According to all the available data, the closest people to the people of the Sintashta culture are the Russians and the Poles.

    Period.

    [MORE]
    Haplogroup J Distribution
    https://history.earthsci.carleton.ca/harvey/genealogy/dnatestingj1.htm

    Haplogroup J2b Distribution

    • Replies: @Dream
  371. Dream says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    First of all, the article is about migrations of Caspian steppe nomads to the west. Russia is not represented in this research whatsoever – the focus is on Europe. Second, among the samples are Cimmerians, Sarmatians, Scythians and the Srubnaya culture people. All four are considered to have been Iranian tribes. The Sintashta culture symbols included in the chart relate to a different research, mentioned in the references.

    That is the aim, yes. The article does compare several populations, from a time period spanning the Bronze Age to the modern day.

    The Human Origins data set is related to the figure B of the chart – “Map showing the locations of ancient individuals sequenced in this study, and the locations of previously published ancient individuals used in comparative analyses” – and on this map we see two samples of the Sintashta people, located in Poland.

    I don’t see any symbols for Sintashta in Poland. All of them are present in between the Pontic-Caspian steppe and Kazakh steppe. You must be mistaken.

    These are the very same two samples that we see in the PCA plot – figure C, within the dotted orange circle representing North, West and Central European population – which includes Poland.

    But not Russians. The Slavic cluster would plot differently from the dotted orange circle.

    [MORE]

    As we remember among the Sintashta culture people that were sampled, “One male carried haplogroup R1a and J1c1b1a, while the other carried R1a1a1b and J2b1a2a. The two females carried U2e1e and U2e1h.” As we have seen, haplogroup R1a is three times more frequent in Russia than in Scandinavia. The same with haplogroup U2. Regarding haplogroups J1c and J2b see the articles below.

    Haplogroup J in general is spread throughout Europe, with the highest parameters in its region of origin in the south of the Ural Mountains, and even higher in Persia. And in Europe the frequency ranges from 3 to 12 percent, the highest percentage is in the UK region, and in Scandinavia as well as in Russia it’s about 7%.

    More specific data with respect to subgroups J1c and J2b is showing that the highest percentage is found, for J2b – in the south of the Ural Mountains area and in the Balkans, going up to 10% there and the lowest percentage in Europe is in Scandinavia where only in the north of Sweden there is a presence of 1-2% – which must be the Sámi people. For J1c there is no statistics and it appears to be having died out.

    I might have to remind you again, but paternal and maternal haplogroups only stand for two lines of descent, father-son and mother-daughter. There are numerous other lineages which are “removed”, unfortunately. Haplogroups are analogous to surnames, in that regard.

    According to all the available data, the closest people to the people of the Sintashta culture are the Russians and the Poles.

    Well, blogs on linguistics, particularly ones which are proponents of Out of India theory, are not reliable, I am afraid.
    “While DNA evidence is gradually chipping away at the notion that Aryans brought civilisation to India, scholars such as Shrikant Talageri have analysed the Vedic texts and showed how the older books talk about places in eastern India whereas the later ones provide descriptions of the geography of northwestern India. This can only mean one thing: the ancient Indians moved into Central Asia and perhaps then on to Europe.”
    https://www.rbth.com/blogs/2014/11/01/sanskrit_and_russian_ancient_kinship_39451

    • Replies: @Here Be Dragon
  372. @Dream

    Either you are color blind or you don’t know geography.

    I don’t see any symbols for Sintashta in Poland. All of them are present in between the Pontic-Caspian steppe and Kazakh steppe. You must be mistaken.

    What you see between the Pontic-Caspian steppe and Kazakh steppe is the Mezhovskaya culture. The place is the same where the Sintashta culture had been nine hundred years earlier.

    The Sintashta symbols are designated with the red square. That plane between two rivers is Poland. That’s Poznań area – west of the Vistula river, east to Oder.

    But it doesn’t matter because the focus of that research was not to determine relatedness between peoples. The red arrow points down at that spot. The research is about migrations.

    But not Russians. The Slavic cluster would plot differently from the dotted orange circle.

    There is no Slavic cluster, the research is about migrations of nomadic tribes – it’s about territories. And it’s focused on Europe alone. This data is inappropriate.

    Paternal and maternal haplogroups stand for two lines of descent, father-son and mother-daughter. Numerous other lineages which are removed.

    You need to read what a haplotype is first. Don’t remind me that you are clueless, it’s obvious. A man can inherit only two haplogroups, nothing is removed.

    There are no numerous other lineages. Using your own example, when a black man has a child with a white woman the child is not white. So there is no removal of anything.

    A man has both Y-DNA and mtDNA but passes down only Y-DNA. You inherit mtDNA only from your mother, and not from your father’s mother. There are also mutations that form subgroups.

    This is why two men – R1a and R1b – are close, in their origins while R1a and N1c are distant, even if their appearance is more or less similar. R1a and R1b are subgroups of the R1 group.

    That’s why the Russians are closer to the French than to the Finns, in their origin. Of course there’s also mtDNA that must be taken into consideration, but that’s the concept.

    And when we are talking about a people we are counting because not every person in the nation is of the same origin. We count the percentage to see how many are related.

    Well, blogs on linguistics, particularly ones which are proponents of Out of India theory, are not reliable, I am afraid.

    My reference was not to an article in that blog. My reference was about the book quoted in an article. You have a reading comprehension problem, pal.

    W.R. Rishi – India & Russia: Linguistic & Cultural Affinity
    https://vedic.su/Vedic/tur/IndiaRussia_Rishi_OCR.pdf

  373. Dream says:

    Either you are color blind or you don’t know geography.

    What you see between the Pontic-Caspian steppe and Kazakh steppe is the Mezhovskaya culture. The place is the same where the Sintashta culture had been nine hundred years earlier.

    The Sintashta symbols are designated with the red square. That plane between two rivers is Poland. That’s Poznań area – west of the Vistula river, east to Oder.

    Those symbols in Poland are not Sintashta symbols. Those circles do not have red boundaries. You are mistaken. Use your brain – why would Sintashta symbols be in Poland?

    The Mezhovskaya symbol too lacks a red boundary, you can see one located in the same region as the Sintashta symbols.

    But it doesn’t matter because the focus of that research was not to determine relatedness between peoples. The red arrow points down at that spot. The research is about migrations.

    Yes, but it demonstrates genetic relatedness.

    There is no Slavic cluster, the research is about migrations of nomadic tribes – it’s about territories. And it’s focused on Europe alone. This data is inappropriate.

    Lots of the samples are from outside Europe.

    [MORE]

    You need to read what a haplotype is first. Don’t remind me that you are clueless, it’s obvious. A man can inherit only two haplogroups, nothing is removed.

    There are no numerous other lineages. Using your own example, when a black man has a child with a white woman the child is not white. So there is no removal of anything.

    A man has both Y-DNA and mtDNA but passes down only Y-DNA. You inherit mtDNA only from your mother, and not from your father’s mother. There are also mutations that form subgroups.

    Good, you are getting there. Of course there is a “removal”( I put removed within quotation marks), a man has only two haplogroups but eight great-grandparents. So yes, numerous haplogroup lineages are “removed”.

    This is why two men – R1a and R1b – are close, in their origins while R1a and N1c are distant, even if their appearance is more or less similar. R1a and R1b are subgroups of the R1 group.

    That’s why the Russians are closer to the French than to the Finns, in their origin. Of course there’s also mtDNA that must be taken into consideration, but that’s the concept.

    And when we are talking about a people we are counting because not every person in the nation is of the same origin. We count the percentage to see how many are related.

    R1a and N1c have different origins, but within say, Latvians, a R1a man and a N1c man would be genetically much closer to each other than the N1c Latvian man is to a N1c Yakut.

    My reference was not to an article in that blog. My reference was about the book quoted in an article. You have a reading comprehension problem, pal.

    W.R. Rishi – India & Russia: Linguistic & Cultural Affinity
    https://vedic.su/Vedic/tur/IndiaRussia_Rishi_OCR.pdf

    I am sorry I cannot read minds.

  374. No, imbecile.

    Prior to all your mumbo-jumbo, you are breaking the Four Laws of Thought, the laws or foundation of Logic. Your mumbo applies, sure, after the development of a valid argument, at a later stage, which can thus be identified as a fallacy, but you never get past the foundation, which you shatter all on your own.

  375. Blubb says:

    What a dumb take.

    Ukrainian Soldiers are being trained on German soil…. BY AMERICANS.
    On your American air bases.

    This reads to me like Americans desperate to for once not be the bad guy and picking Germany to be the sacrificial animal.

    It’s your war, guys, sorry! We just want North Stream II.

    • Agree: erzberger
  376. erzberger says:
    @Zachary Smith

    “I agree the insanity of the German government is very difficult to understand. “

    Insane yes, difficult to understand no.

    The Germans know who they are up against, and got the submit or die message since 1945. The US still has most of their gold reserves – in safe keeping so the allegedly evil Russians won’t steal it, among other assets.

    https://www.algora.com/Algora_blog/2020/03/01/the-greatest-intellectual-property-theft-in-history-operation-paperclip-the-plunder-of-germanys-scientific-and-industrial-knowledge-after-world-war-two

    • Agree: HdC
  377. Dorus says:

    Well written. I feel like I am about the only person among my friends that has read history coming to this invasion. Mr. Putin had no other choice. Its a good thing that the democrats will be send home in two years time so there is still hope for humanity.

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