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“I have spoken with my Western colleagues about denazification. They say:” What’s the problem? You also have radical nationalists, don’t you?” Yes, we do, but we don’t have them in our government like Ukraine. And we don’t have thousands of people marching in the streets with torches and swastikas like Nazi Germany in the 1930s? And we don’t praise the men who killed Russians, Jews, and Poles during the war. But in Ukraine, they do.” Vladimir Putin, Russian President

The United States has been arming and training far-right militants that are the ideological descendants of Nazi war criminals that were directly involved in the mass-extermination of Jews, Slavs and Gypsies during the Second World War. These Ukrainian storm troopers are among the most vicious and malignant combatants Washington has ever employed to implement its foreign policy agenda. Naturally, Washington sees these fascist-zealots as mere pawns in its proxy war on Russia. Even so, the ‘alliance of convenience’ does not diminish the fact that Uncle Sam is now in bed with right-wing militants whose spiritual leader, Adolph Hitler, was responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of people as well as the destruction of large parts of Europe and Russia. Check out this clip from an article titled “Can Ukraine have a ‘Nazi problem’ with a Jewish president?:

“Ukraine really does have a far-right problem, and it’s not a fiction of Kremlin propaganda. And it’s well past time to talk about it,” explained journalist and expert on the Ukrainian far right, Michael Colborne.

The most known neo-Nazi group on Ukraine’s far right is the Azov movement. The movement grew out of the Azov Regiment (originally a Battalion), formed in the chaos of war in early 2014.

It was formed by a “ragtag group of far-right thugs, football hooligans and international hangers-on, including dozens of Russian citizens,” said Colborne, who wrote a book on the movement.”(“Can Ukraine have a ‘Nazi problem’ with a Jewish president?”, Jewish Unpacked)

While Russian President Vladimir Putin is committed to removing Ukraine’s Nazis from power, it is uncertain how he will do so. Self-identified fascists now hold positions of authority in the military, the government and the Security Services. They have also been the driving force behind the 8 year-long siege of the Donbass region in east Ukraine that is mainly inhabited by ethnic Russians. The militants’ hatred for their Slavic brothers suggests that Hitler’s racial theories are being ruthlessly applied in 21st Century Europe. Here’s an excerpt from an article at The Saker Blog:

“Since the Western-backed coup in Kiev in 2014, political organizations associated with neo-Nazis infiltrated Ukrainian mainstream politics as the Ukrainian government sent troops to try to crush the Donbass uprisings by force.

As Ukraine waged war against breakaway forces in the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics, the Neo-Nazi Groups in Ukraine gained notoriety for their belligerent rhetoric towards the population of the country’s east, as well as for eagerly participating in the civil war….

The (Azov Battalion’s) first commander was right-wing nationalist Andriy Biletsky, who led the paramilitary national socialist group called “Patriot of Ukraine” and was the founder of a neo-Nazi group, the Social-National Assembly (SNA) in 2008. In 2010, Biletsky, a former parliamentarian, apparently said that Ukraine was meant to “lead the white races of the world in a final crusade … against Semite-led Untermenschen (subhumans) ”by reports in a spate of Western mainstream outlets.” (“Ukrainian bad guys and a fair Russian response“, Batko Milacic for the Saker Blog)

Readers should take a minute to savor Washington’s duplicity on this matter, after all, while the Biden administration and the entire MSM was denouncing the January 6 protestors as “racists” and “white supremacists”, the US government was busy arming and training “white crusader” Nazis to carry out its war on Russia. What’s that all about? If there was an Academy Award for hypocrisy, Uncle Sam would be the hands-down favorite. Here’s more from the same piece:

“Azov took part in subsequent hostilities in Donbass and was incorporated into the National Guard of Ukraine in November 2014, although its members continued to wear neo-Nazi and SS-like symbols and regalia and openly express neo-Nazi views. Their logo echoes the Wolfsangel, one of the original symbols used by the 2nd SS Panzer Division Das Reich. Representatives of the Azov Battalion, however, have claimed their symbol is an abbreviation for the slogan “National Idea” in Ukrainian.

Ukrainian authorities did not bother to conceal the fact that in 2014, Azov comprised neo-Nazi-leaning volunteers from countries such as Sweden, Italy, France, Belarus, Canada, and Slovenia.

Despite the adoption of the 2015 Minsk Accords that were aimed at ending the civil war by reintegrating the Donbass into Ukraine in exchange for constitutionally-guaranteed autonomy, Kiev refused to implement a peace deal. Azov members took an active part in Donbass hostilities.

In 2016, the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) accused the Azov Battalion, officially upgraded to a regiment in January 2015, of committing war crimes such as mass looting, unlawful detention, and torture. Currently, the Azov “Special Operations Detachment” is engaged in the Ukrainian army’s counter-reconnaissance and special weapons operations.

The Russian Investigative Committee has opened a criminal case against a number of fighters from Azov units for crimes such as kidnapping, torture, use of prohibited means, and methods of warfare.” (“Ukrainian bad guys and a fair Russian response”, Batko Milacic for the Saker Blog)

Again, these are not your garden-variety, right-wing militants. These are full-fledged, battle-hardened Nazi storm troopers that have engaged in all-manner of illegal and sadistic activities including “the mass killing of prisoners, the concealment of corpses in mass graves and the systematic use of physical and psychological torture techniques.” And while they are lavishly supported by the United States, they oppose everything that America claims to stand for. They are universally opposed to liberal democracy, parliamentary government and racial equality. Instead, they advocate social regimentation, autocratic rule and glorification of the state. Race is very much at the core of Nazi Doctrine. (which may explain the animus these fascist groups have for the ethnic Russians in the east.) A few quotes from Hitler’s manifesto Mein Kampt help to illustrate this point:

“A stronger race will drive out the weaker ones, for the vital urge in its ultimate form will break down the absurd barriers of the so-called humanity of individuals to make way for the humanity of nature which destroys the weak to give their place to the strong.”

“Blood sin and desecration of the race are the original sin of this world and the end of a humanity that surrenders to it.” (“Adolf Hitler, Quotes on Race”, quotetab)

The above quotes provide a window into the ideology that was used to justify a world war against “inferior people” who were seen as expendable in the eyes of their Aryan overlords. Why– you may ask– is the US supporting the adherents of this same fiendish dogma in Ukraine today?

We can’t answer that, but here’s more background from an article by Monseigneur Carlo Maria Vigano:

“Neo-Nazi movements engaged in military and paramilitary actions operate freely in Ukraine, often with the official support of public institutions. These include the following: Stepan Bandera’s Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN), a movement with a Nazi, anti-Semitic and racist matrix already active in Chechnya and which is part of the Right Sector, an association of far-right movements formed at the time of the Euromaidan coup in 2013/2014; the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA); the UNA/UNSO, paramilitary wing of the far-right political party Ukraine National Assembly; the Korchinsky Brotherhood, which offered protection in Kiev to ISIS members; Misanthropic Vision (MD), a neo-Nazi network spread across 19 countries that publicly incites terrorism, extremism and hatred against Christians, Muslims, Jews, Communists, homosexuals, Americans and people of color.

It should be remembered that the government has given explicit support to these extremist organizations both by sending the presidential guard to the funerals of their representatives, as well as by supporting the Azov Battalion, a paramilitary organization that is officially part of the Ukrainian Army under the new name of Azov Special Operations Regiment and organized into the National Guard. ..

In March 2015, Ukrainian Interior Minister Arsen Avakov announced that the Azov Battalion would be one of the first units to be trained by US Army troops, as part of their Operation Fearless Guard training mission. … “We have been training these guys for eight years now. They are really good fighters. That’s where the Agency’s program could have a serious impact.” (“Declaration of Msgr. Carlo Maria Viganò on the Russia-Ukraine Crisis”,

Vigano is right, the US has been providing combat training to Ukrainian Nazis and other far-right groups in secret camps since 2015. These ultra nationalist militias will now pass along these same skills to tens of thousands of other like-minded militants increasing the global spread of fascism by many orders of magnitude. Here’s more from an article at Jacobin Magazine:

“Not just the Ukrainian far right, but neo-fascist forces from all over the world, including the US and Europe, will now receive combat experience with the most advanced weapons in the world. They will also be able to continue developing their international networks, to which the Ukrainian far right, and especially the Azov Battalion, have long been central…

… since 2015, the CIA has been secretly training forces in Ukraine to serve as “insurgent leaders,” in the words of one former intelligence official, in case Russia ends up invading the country. Current officials are claiming the training is purely for intelligence collection, but the former officials Yahoo! spoke to said the program involved training in firearms, “cover and move,” and camouflage, among other things.

Given the facts, there’s a good chance that the CIA is training actual, literal Nazis as part of this effort. The year the program started, 2015, also happened to be the same year that Congress passed a spending bill that featured hundreds of millions of dollars’ worth of economic and military support for Ukraine… (“The CIA May Be Breeding Nazi Terror in Ukraine”, Branko Marcetic, Jacobin Magazine)

But why has the United States gone to so much trouble to arm and train these combatants when it appears that the Russian army is clearly going to win the war?

The plan to defeat Russia was never intended to succeed in the initial phase of the conflict, but to lay the groundwork for a bloody and protracted insurgency fought by these same CIA-trained paramilitaries who now act as Uncle Sam’s Nazi warriors. Here’s the story from Yahoo News:

“The CIA is overseeing a secret intensive training program in the U.S. for elite Ukrainian special operations forces and other intelligence personnel, according to five former intelligence and national security officials familiar with the initiative. The program, which started in 2015, is based at an undisclosed facility in the Southern U.S., according to some of those officials….

The training, which has included “tactical stuff,” is “going to start looking pretty offensive if Russians invade Ukraine,” said the former official. One person familiar with the program put it more bluntly. “The United States is training an insurgency,” said a former CIA official, adding that the program has taught the Ukrainians how “to kill Russians.”

Though the agency’s paramilitary resources have been otherwise stretched thin in Afghanistan and on other counterterrorism missions, the U.S.-based training program has been a “high priority” for the CIA since its Obama-era inception, said the former senior intelligence official…. The Biden administration has reportedly assembled a task force to determine how the CIA and other U.S. agencies could support a Ukrainian insurgency, should Russia launch a large-scale incursion.

“If the Russians invade, those [graduates of the CIA programs] are going to be your militia, your insurgent leaders,” said the former senior intelligence official. “We’ve been training these guys now for eight years. They’re really good fighters. That’s where the agency’s program could have a serious impact.”

Both U.S. and Ukrainian officials believe that Ukrainian forces will not be able to withstand a large-scale Russian incursion, according to former U.S. officials. But representatives from both countries also believe that Russia won’t be able to hold on to new territory indefinitely because of stiff resistance from Ukrainian insurgents, according to former officials.

If the Russians launch a new invasion, “there’s going to be people who make their life miserable,” said the former senior intelligence official. The CIA-trained paramilitaries “will organize the resistance” using the specialized training they’ve received.

“All that stuff that happened to us in Afghanistan,” said the former senior intelligence official, “they can expect to see that in spades with these guys.” (“CIA-trained Ukrainian paramilitaries may take central role if Russia invades”, Yahoo News)

Let’s summarize:

  1. The United States has been arming and training Ukrainian fascist combatants in secret locations.
  2. The CIA training program began in 2015 which suggests there must have been a plan for goading Russia into invading. Nothing would have been left to chance. Strategic planners must have settled on what provocations they would use. (like the threat of NATO membership)
  3. Official Washington never thought the Ukrainian army could prevail against a conflict with the Russian Army, which suggests that the media’s stories about “the brave Ukrainian resistance” are reckless propaganda designed to garner greater public support.
  4. The country of Ukraine and the Ukrainian people are of no interest to the United States. Ukraine is only valuable in as much as it provides a staging ground (and the manpower) for Washington to prosecute a war against Russia.
  5. The clear strategic objective of the CIA program is to create an “Afghanistan-type” quagmire for Russia that will deplete its resources, inflict massive reputational damage, and kill as many Russian servicemen as possible.
  6. The ultimate goal of the CIA-generated insurgency is to destroy the Russian economy, isolate the Russian leadership, and send home as many Russian boys in body-bags as possible in order to affect a regime change that will replace arch-rival Putin with a compliant stooge like Ukrainian Puppet Zelensky.
  7. All the evidence suggests that the developments on the ground– including the luring of Russian troops into Ukraine– is part of a long-standing strategic plan to prevent the economic integration of Russia and Europe in order to control China’s development and preserve US hegemony into the next century. Thus, current US foreign policy can be summarized in just 10 words:

“We’ll deal with Russia first, then move on to China.

Important Notes:

1– Must watch– Tucker Carlson, America’s best essayist, “We are at war with Russia”

2– Must watch –

Prof. John Mearsheimer explains the crisis in Ukraine the crisis in Ukraine (with Ray McGovern), Consortium News

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  1. Ingrian says:

    I wrote about this for U. Toronto Jourtalism class taught by a close friend of Chrystia Freeland, Justin Trudeau’s carer, the woman who really runs Canada and whose grandpa was an OG Ukrainian Nazi. Didn’t end well. Also got a professor fired for inviting Andrii Parubyi, a recent founder of a couple Ukrainian nazi parties, to give a talk on ‘democratic reforms’ without introducing his background. Was hard to graduate. As a Russian, Nazism targets us as much or more than anyone else, as do the 30 bioweapons labs the US in Ukraine that the US isn’t even trying to cover up.

    My article on the Nazis blackmailing the state, two good links are right at the end, about the Nazi-driven Ukrainian nuclear program

  2. Exile says:

    While I agree that NATO is the aggressor and Putin is entirely justified, Whitney is biting a little too hard on the anti-fascist bait Putin is tossing out.

    U.S. support for the Azov Battalion is not “Operation Paperclip.” It has more in common with ISIS than with the NSDAP.

    Putin spent years in Eastern Europe with Russian security services. He knows how small-scale genuine European fascist movements really are. He probably helped funnel Russian funds to some of the more degenerate among them and certainly knows KGB and SVR that did.

    They do not have the numbers to threaten Russian interests. His problem is with NATO. Saying “NATO R Tha Real Nazis” (NR3?) is just a good propaganda move to make NATO look like even more murderous hypocrites than they already are.

    Guys in the anti-war alt-media shouldn’t swallow this hook too hard – it looks ridiculous to people with some idea of where fascism really stands.

    As for Mike’s view of fascism, Hitler wasn’t wildly popular with Germans because he fooled them all with his magic charisma and wily propaganda. Germans weren’t all dumb sheep in the 1930’s. They saw fascism as a valid and effective counter to Jewish degeneracy and Bolshevism. Which it was.

    Mike may have avoided the latest batch of war-hate kool-aid but he’s still wobbly from the WWII vintage stuff.

  3. Chris Moore says: • Website

    So all of these Lib-con accusations that Putinism=Nazism are actually projection. In reality, Neocons/Lib-cons = Nazism. That explains their joint support for Judeofascist Israel, too. That explains the 9/11 “Reichstag fire” used as a pretext to go to war against “Islamofascism” ‐‐ yet another example of projection.

    Wow, these Zionist are far more psychotic and criminally insane than most people realize.

  4. anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    are among the most vicious and malignant combatants Washington has ever employed

    The US organized and armed jihadi groups who were murderous head-choppers in it’s effort to overturn the Syrian state. The US supported and supplied the Pol Pot gang after they’d been chased out by Vietnam, holding them to be the only legitimate government of Cambodia. Insofar as this nazi stuff goes they can be whatever they want to be, nobody cares. It’s just that they shouldn’t rule over others, certainly not to be in charge of a large country of unwilling captives. Perhaps they should have their own smaller state. However, they’re just being exploited by the US as proxy cannon fodder just as the US uses everyone else, to be discarded later after everything’s been squeezed out of them. In this they and the rest of the Ukrainians are just puppets who get taken down but the puppet-master, which is the US, gets off scot-free, laughing at how cheap it is to rent these chumps and looking for its next adventure.

    • Agree: Badger Down
    • Thanks: Sarah, showmethereal
  5. U.S. support for the Azov Battalion is not “Operation Paperclip.” It has more in common with ISIS than with the NSDAP.

    Agree. The ISIS analogy is much better than the Nazi one. The term Nazi is only understandable from a Russian viewpoint of WW II and Bandera (who was far more interested in killing Russians than he was Jews, despite fighting alongside the SS & Co.). These Ukies, who serve Jewish leaders and take Jewish funding, are very strange Nazis indeed. It’s true there are some very odd historical relations between the NSDAP regime headed by a certain Austrian painter and the Zionist movement in particular, which have been explored by our host.

    Even so, Jewish support for the Bandera-Nazis is very widespread throughout the world, far beyond some strange goings on between Nazis and Zionists in the run up to WW II. In fact an even better title for this article would have been Uncle Schmuel’s Nazi Warriors. Uncle Schmuel and Mossad are the chief supporters of ISIS as well, despite all the gaslight-media screeching on about “Islamism” and “Islamo-Fascism”. Both John McCain and his camp-follower Lindsay Graham – who only the other day was screaming for Putin’s assassination – were very gung-ho on the Neo-Klown plan to carve up Russia for asset-stripping and other looting.

    • Agree: Old and Grumpy
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  6. UR is totally different today. I’m seeing timeouts all the time, blamed on the UR site. Maybe the site, maybe a new kind of DDOS.

    • Replies: @Gerhard57NL
  7. Naziwicz or Semitazis.

    Slavs are really dumb. These slavo-nazis are actually fighting for Jews who push globo-homo and Negrolatry on Ukraine? What are they, tardo-nazis?

    If Ukraine were a sovereign country and if ultra-right elements wanted to fight to defend its borders, I wouldn’t much mind. But these morons are working for Jewish globalists? Don’t they see the irony in all this? They are just as retarded as Antifa that is ostensibly ‘communist’ but work for Jewish super-capitalists who’ve hogged most of the wealth. Blackrock and Black Bloc.

    Jews exploit goyim cuz goyim are dumb.

    Ukraine is only 2% Jewish, but all these Slavo-dummies let Jews take over. Jewish oligarch funds a TV show with Zelensky the actor as an anti-corruption figure, and the masses of voters fall for the meet-john-doe shtick and make him president.

    Victoria Nuland goes there and hands out cookies to them like they’re children, and they take and nibble on the stuff. What are they, kids? Jewish wench treat them like children, and they act like children. Yummy, cookies!! What is this, Hansel and Gretel shit?

    Slavs need to wake up and clean up their act.

    But then, why be so hard on the Slavs? Anglos are supposed to advanced and smart but handed over all their great conquest and inheritance to the worst and most vicious elements of the Jewish community. Just look at Lindsey Graham’s face. Just look at Mitt cuck Romney. Or the Utah governor who approved of tranny crap. Anglos are more capable than Slavs but just as stupid in their own way. What are the three most sacred things in the US? Sheldon Adelson’s tribe, black thugs posturing as saints, and homo anus as the new angel.

    What a world.

  8. @Chris Moore

    It was an old observation that you ‘Scratch and liberal and find a fascist’, but today, in the Russiagate lunacy, the CoViD mania and now, the full monty of vicious insanity, Ukraine, our beloved ‘democratic’ friend, they have reached full totalitarianism, plus the hysteria and histrionics of the mass formation psychoses (several at once) feeding upon little, twisted, minds. EVERY revelation of neo-Nazi activity in Ukraine is met with, ‘Those are Putin lies, Russian propaganda, have been debunked (the most ludicrous of all)or are themselves ‘White supremacist’ propaganda, because Putin is the real fascists and Ukrainians ‘liberal democrats’ to the core’.

    • Agree: Humbert Humbert, Ace
    • Replies: @Jeff Davis
  9. Ukraine’s Jewish president fears his CIA assigned Nazi attack dogs.

    • Replies: @Chris Moore
    , @Kurt Knispel
  10. *Reads with interest, until*

    “Here’s an excerpt from an article at The Saker Blog”


    As a Russian, Nazism targets us as much or more than anyone else

    LOL, it’s horseshit like this that forces even would-be-pro-Russians to pull up short. As much as I’d like to trust Russians, they prove time and again that it’s not good practice.

  11. A part I liked – because it hadn’t occurred to me before.

    Readers should take a minute to savor Washington’s duplicity on this matter, after all, while the Biden administration and the entire MSM was denouncing the January 6 protestors as “racists” and “white supremacists”, the US government was busy arming and training “white crusader” Nazis to carry out its war on Russia.

    The part I didn’t care for was the link to professional jackass Tucker Carlson. The presentation was plenty strong without adding him to the mix.

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @showmethereal
  12. Ghali says:

    It is very strange that Carlson did not mention the US aggression on Iraq that killed more than 1.5 million innocent Iraqis. The US is currently occupying Syria, confiscating Syrian grains and oil. The US refused to end the illegal occupations of Iraq and Syria.

    • Agree: JR Foley, showmethereal
    • Thanks: true.enough
  13. @Exile

    Quite. It’s surprising how many people can’t see this.

  14. Alrenous says: • Website

    These Ukrainian storm troopers are among the most vicious and malignant combatants Washington has ever employed to implement its foreign policy agenda.

    Reality: pretty average actually. America is Fascist and prefers Fascist stormtroopers as its cat’s paws.

    Don’t try to lick Satan’s taint you nub.

    in bed with right-wing militants whose spiritual leader, Adolph Hitler, was responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of people as well as the destruction of large parts of Europe and Russia.

    1. No form of Fascism is right-wing. You have masculine and feminine variants, but they’re both radical leftists.

    2. Millions of deaths you say. What, like Lincoln domestically? Like FDR in Japan and Germany? Like America in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria? Etc, etc etc?

    Why, it’s almost like America is a Fascist regime. What a coincidence.

    Spare me the crocodile tears. Nobody gives a shit when a stranger dies. You especially don’t.

    Again, these are not your garden-variety, right-wing militants. These are full-fledged, battle-hardened Nazi storm troopers

    The answer to propaganda isn’t more propaganda. Don’t try to out-lie Satan.
    Still not right-wing. And no, they’re not. They’re cowering behind civilians. All leftists are cowards – Hitler included. Sure he was braver than your modern American, but I have to recall Julius Caesar.
    Do you know why populare Julius Caesar crossed the Rubicon? He was afraid of being tried for crimes he in fact committed. Quite rationally so. (Not that Rome didn’t richly deserve his degeneracy being violently visited upon her.) Of course he was incomparably superior to any modern, but relative to his time he was a safe-spacing danger-hair.

    Vigano is right, the US has been providing combat training to Ukrainian Nazis and other far-right groups in secret camps since 2015

    Far-right lol.
    But yes, it’s almost like everything they say is a lie! Almost like they have no principles whatsoever beyond kto kogo, except possibly pure malice! Time and past time to grow up and recognize this.

    but to lay the groundwork for a bloody and protracted insurgency

    Naive American romanticism. Why would Putin allow an insurgency? Unlike sissy America, he can just…not. He has no obligation to fuck up the “police action” part of the plan the way America did.

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    , @aldasfail770
  15. anon[365] • Disclaimer says:

    muh Nazis
    muh Holohoax
    muh Misanthropic duhVision

    I’m glad all you bought-and-paid-for fucktards came out of the woodwork just like mainstream media did on the other side.

    • Troll: 36 ulster, Clyde
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  16. Petermx says:

    “And we don’t have thousands of people marching in the streets with torches and swastikas like Nazi Germany in the 1930s? And we don’t praise the men who killed Russians, Jews, and Poles during the war.” Vladimir Putin, Russian President. No, you praise men who killed Germans, Austrians, Ukrainians, Latvians, Estonians, Croatians and anyone else you fought against.

    Yes, that is the allied view of history and they are liars. Torches and swastikas don’t hurt people. I like torches. Many people do. The Russians and Jews, or more accurately Soviets (even Stalin wasn’t a Russian by ethnicity) and Jews murdered tens of millions of their own citizens and many of those victims were Ukrainians. Russians of course, also had blood on their hands but the biggest mass murderers were the Jews, the founders of the communist country, making up 80 to 85% of its first government. Besides the mass murder inflicted on all the citizens of the USSR by Jews and Russians, the Poles ran their country like a torture chamber for their minorities, causing over one million Germans to flee their homes (since 1919 or after, they were part of Poland) to Germany by 1931 and large numbers of Ukrainians fled to Canada. The Poles treatment of minorities was covered in English newspapers and discussed in parliament in the early 30’s and like everything else the lying allies did, has been swept under the rug and covered up.

    That is why Bandera and other Ukrainians fought against the mass murdering Soviet government and murderous Poles and Jews. Similarly, in Belarus, Latvia and Estonia, they also didn’t like being murdered, so they put on uniforms and joined the Germans in expelling the Soviet mass murderers. The only problem is they lost the war, so the mass murdering USSR (like the guilty British, Americans and Jews) have all their crimes covered up and then they wonder why Bandera was attacking them. The answer is that long before he started attacking Poles, Jews and Russians, they had tortured and murdered millions of Ukrainians but if you leave that part out, you have Bandera attacking innocent Poles and Jews for no reason at all. LOL. It’s so typical.

    It’s hard to outperform the British and Americans when it comes to lying, but the Russians have a lot more to cover up. Like the confused author of this article and everyone else brought up on 75 years of lies, a few weeks ago or maybe a little longer someone made a comment to me about an atrocity Bandera supposedly committed against Poles, killing ten thousand or more people at Vinnitsa. I had never heard of such a thing and then I found this, so I’m guessing like the confused author of this article she also had heard another allied lie and the atrocity she was talking about wasn’t committed by Bandera, but the Soviet authorities (Jews).

    I had heard of the Soviet atrocity in the Katyn forest that the Soviets committed and then blamed on the Germans but I had never heard of this equally atrocious atrocity at Vinnitsa, committed by the Soviets, not the Germans or Bandera. And just as they did at Katyn, the Germans brought in doctors and experts to investigate the crime. Like Katyn, they also invited international observers. The Soviets had carried out another monstrous crime, this time at Vinnitsa and when it all came out all the Soviets could do was blame it on the Germans.

    Vinnitsa, Ukraine: Where Jewish-Led NKVD Terrorists Murdered 10,000 Christians And Blamed It On The ‘Nazis’

    In 1990 or 1991, after lying about it for fifty years and blaming it on the Germans, the Soviet Union admitted they were the guilty party that murdered about 15,000 Poles (military officers and intellectuals) in 1939 or 1940 at the Katyn massacre near Smolensk. Gorbachev turned over the documents they had relating to the atrocity to Poland and admitted the USSR committed the crime. For 50 years this had been blamed on the Germans and that is what the show trials at Nuremberg ruled too.

    The Germans had discovered the mass grave and brought doctors in and others to do autopsies and an investigation of what happened. The Germans invited foreigners (including British and I believe Americans too) to work with them on investigating the crime. From across Europe countries sent people to work with Germany and investigate the crime. The Americans and British refused to send anyone, like they refused to send anyone when President Putin invited them to send poll watchers to witness the vote in Crimea when ethnic Russians voted overwhelmingly for Crimea to join Russia.

    The world has known about Katyn since 1943 when Germany discovered the Soviet atrocity. I didn’t know there was as an almost equally horrible atrocity carried out by the Soviets in Vinnitsa that the Germans also discovered and then the lying communists also blamed the Germans for that crime which they had committed. Besides the swastika, maybe the hammer and sickle should be banned too instead of lionizing criminal communist groups like ANTIFA and BLM in the USA and elsewhere.

    Regarding the Polish atrocities against Ukrainians, I gave some background on this covered up aspect of history in another comment and I’ll repeat it here.

    Gerd Schultze-Rhonhof discusses this starting at 15 min and 15 seconds into his lecture.

    Poland annexed parts of Ukraine and Belarus (White Russia) from the USSR after WW I.

    “Banned from German schoolbooks” is “the humanitarian tragedy of the non-Polish minorities in Poland”. Poland had “five million Ukrainians” and many fled to (British) Canada. British newspapers and the British Parliament took up the subject.

    Manchester Guardian, 12/14/1931 – “The minorities in Poland are to disappear. This policy is being pushed forward ruthlessly and without the slightest regard for public opinion abroad” “The Ukraine under Polish rule is an inferno – the same can be said of White Russia [Belarus] with even greater justice. The purpose of the Polish policy is the disappearance of the national minorities”

    British Parliament, 6/15/32 -“in Volhynia, the conditions are harsher still” “one especially deplorable matter – that is, the torture of prisoners in the prisons and of suspects…I regret that the evidence is convincing that medieval torture is practiced”

    In France, a professor of Slavic studies who had lived there – “There were shootings, hangings, tortures, imprisonments, confiscations…Many Ukrainian priests were executed”

    In the lands taken from Germany things were similar. By 1931 already, over one million Germans fled Poland for Germany. More would flee later.

    The War That Had Many Fathers

    If you cover up the atrocities committed by Jews and Poles, then Bandera and Ukrainians become war criminals for defending themselves or taking revenge.

    I do not know about the behavior of the today’s Azov Battalion. What I do know is German, Ukrainian and European history is falsified and covers up the criminal behavior of allies and blames everything on Germans and victims of the communists that joined the Germans because they were glad to be free from the criminal USSR.

    • Agree: HdC
    • Replies: @ariadna
    , @Von Rho
  17. Criminalize Self-Hate Crime and Self-Hate Speech.

    Slavo-Nazis are self-loathing Slavs and must die.

    Serf-Nazis must die.

  18. Sepp says:

    A very disappointing article by Mike Whitney:

    The United States has been arming and training far-right militants that are the ideological descendants of Nazi war criminals that were directly involved in the mass-extermination of Jews, Slavs and Gypsies

    He allows himself to become a mouthpiece for Khazaria and a true believer of da 6 gorrillian. Schade.

    Just because someone calls himself a “Nazi” does not make him one, the “Nazi’s” actually had very high standards, at least until the planned genocide of Germany became apparent after the details of the Morgentau and Hooten plans were made public and the fire bombings of German cities began in earnest.

    These Khazarian Mafia thugs calling themselves “Nazi” are victims of the Ashkenazi Name Stealers like Kolomoisky. Of course the entire Red Army were victims/followers of the same tribe, and they aided the Khazarian mafia in the Holodomor. It is a major disappointment that Mike Whitney falls for the war propaganda hysteria. Neo-Antifa would be a far better description for Azov and Right brigades, but of course the Khazarians want to divide and muddy the water. So they call their thugs “Nazi”. These “Ukro-Nazis” are mercenaries for WEF and globalism, and have absolutely nothing to do with National Socialism. In fact, Putin himself qualifies as a National Socialist since he is both a Nationalist and a Socialist who is fighting the globalists and who doesn’t believe in Capitalism or Communism.

    I truly believe that if Hitler were alive and Germany was still National Socialist, Putin and Hitler would ally themselves against the Anglo-US Khazarians.

    This TimesofIsrael article really illustrates the mind games being played by the Khazars:

    How Putin distorts WWII, Holocaust to justify invasion of Ukraine

    “In terms of all of the sort of constituent parts of Nazism, none of that is in play in Ukraine. Territorial ambitions. State-sponsored terrorism. Rampant antisemitism. Bigotry. A dictatorship. None of those are in play. So this is just total fiction,” said Jonathan Dekel-Chen, a history professor at Jerusalem’s Hebrew University.

    Jews themselves are telling you that those Ukro-Nazi’s are not Nazi. Shut up goyim, only Jews are allowed to label people as Nazi.

    Putin’s attempts to stretch history for political motives is part of a trend seen in other countries as well. Most prominently is Poland, where authorities are advancing a nationalist narrative at odds with mainstream scholarship, including through a 2018 law that regulates Holocaust speech.

    “Ukro-Nazis” aren’t Nazi, the Poles are! At least for today, because only Jews can decide who is a Nazi and who isn’t.

    “Whoever deals with the period of the Holocaust must first and foremost be committed to the complex reality that occurred then and not with wars over memory that exist today”

    Got that Goyim? Only Khazar Jews are “committed” to the “complex reality” of the “period of the Holocaust” are allowed to label opponents as “Nazi”.

  19. TKK says:

    This is planned conflict…a conspiracy between Ukraine Elites , Putin and the Biden Administration, and possibly NATO. Zelenskyy ‘s cocky and canned speeches are straight from Hollywood Jewish SAG writers.

    It is far too convenient for the Biden Crime Family and the Democratic Accomplices to have the Entire Spotlight removed from their staggering amount of crimes, right when the ball was starting to roll:

    * Covid Destruction of 80% small businesses, all for naught
    * Greatest transfer of wealth to the top .001% in the history of the civilized world (2 Trillion)
    * Hunter Biden’s extortions from Ukraine and China
    * January 6th Hoax
    * Supply Chain Fiascos
    * Life changing inflation
    * Confirmed Spying on the Trump Campaign and Presidency
    * Vaccine Deaths
    *BLM Fraud

    Putin likely has accepted a payout of many billions and he will go into hiding in Switzerland with his attractive younger lover and their four children , with guaranteed immunity from the International Criminal Court (ICC). He does care about restoring the image of the mighty USSR (read the many books about his life) but in the end, he is a pragmatist.

    It is important to note Biden was giddy when he told a Press Core: I have this little thing in Europe to worry about. Terribly, this was before any bombs fell. We had the strange countdown to Putin’s invasion from the White House. Biden knew he was officially off the hook. War with Russia is now the only story that matters.

    Even in his vacuous mind, Biden is still a megalomanic and despises the Americans who realize how catastrophic his imposed rule is playing out. Biden is just punishing middle America at this point, and blaming Putin.

    It is pure sadism.

    Here comes the pain.

  20. Thomasina says:

    “However, they’re just being exploited by the US as proxy cannon fodder just as the US uses everyone else, to be discarded later after everything’s been squeezed out of them.”

    Home-grown army: Antifa, BLM. They don’t care how degenerate these people are, just so long as they do what they’re paid for. Weren’t they using recently released criminals for Antifa? Didn’t the head of BLM end up with several houses?

    Foreign army: ISIS and Azov Battalion. Fund them, support them, train them. Good pay, and when things don’t go well, there’s always immigration into your country. That way they have a ready army in case they want to use them again.

    Where’s Antifa and BLM now? Gone the way of Covid and White Helmets.

    Different types of armies, but armies nonetheless.

  21. Anon[160] • Disclaimer says:

    The war party’s goal since 1990 has always to sow chaos and division in Europe. That’s the grand strategy.

  22. 1. Why does the author refuse to learn about the true meaning of “Nazi”?
    2. Does the author misuse the label “Nazi”?
    3. Does the author know the neutral definition of “fascism”?
    4. Does the author mix “Nazi” and “fascism” randomly?
    5. Are the author’s “Nazis” in the Ukraina descendants of “Nazis” or descendants of victims of the Jewish Holodomor?
    6. What came first the Jews’ Nazis or the Jews’ Wars; in the Ukraina esp. the Jewish Holodomor?

    And last but not least what mass-extermination of Jews, Slavs and Gypsies are you raving about yet again? (The term Slav – slave – is actually just as wrongly used as “Nazi”.)

    There were countless mass extermination of peoples of the RUS incl. the borderlanders
    a) trough the Jews’ Napoleon
    b) per First Jewish World War,
    c) through the Jewish coup d’etat 1917
    d) through the Jewish Holodomor
    e) per Second Jewish World War (with the Bolshois (Jews) sacrificing eastern whites en masse and often unarmed in the front lines)
    d) via Jewish organized collapse of the USSR (incl. Ukraina)
    e) per Jewish Maidan
    f) per Jewish provoked Russian razzia in the Ukraina to clean up the Jew’s deeds incl. the Jews’ orchestrated “Nazi” batallions!

    There have been many hollow clauses (with countless white bodies & souls in it); every known genocide was a Jewish crime! The one the Mikes are attached to has a sacrifice of well over 20 mio Russians; but do not count those 20 mio Germans plus the “collaterals”. Most of those 20 mio Germans got killed after the liberation, most of your Nazis did not loose their lives in battle but after surrendering to the Mikes.

    The Jew and his Mikes (hyenas) have been and still are the mass murderers!
    After their last hot war (JWW2) there have been more Jews on earth than before the start of it.
    The Jews are one of the largest peoples. Some estimate 200 – 300 million gangsters incl. offsprings.


    Mike bringing “The Nazi”; “Good Boy” says the Goy’s Master:
    Bring the evidence!

    • Agree: Sepp
    • Replies: @Ukraine Tiger
  23. If the Russians think what I think, the plan has a glitch. The Russians will not occupy non-Russian parts of Ukraine. Once Donbass and a land bridge to Crimea are secured, they will retreat. If Ukraine tries to attack territory held by Russians in Southern and Eastern Ukraine, Western Ukraine will be reduced to rubble.
    The Russians are not stupid to repeat the errors of Afghanistan. Once again, the Central Inanity Agency is projecting its way of thinking onto others. Unlike the Americans, Russians don’t rely solely on technology and overwhelming firepower, they actually apply military tactics and strategy. Also unlike Americans, Russians are perfectly aware that the “clear and hold” strategy is a recipe for quagmire. That’s why when they conquer a city like Kherson, they leave all the civil administration in place. The Russian goal is literally the stated goal, destroy the neo-nazi zombies and neuter Ukraine. Once that is achieved, to maintain it that way is very simple: every time Ukraine will try to “un-neuter” itself, it will suffer a massive strike from distance.
    Ukraine won’t be Gaza in the sense that the Russians don’t have and don’t want to turn it into a big concentration camp. It will have freedom of movement and freedom of trade. Militarily though, it will be like Gaza.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  24. Also embarrassing that our government puts so much into training foreign thugs to be hardened warriors, while diluting and coddling our own armed forces into an identity-obsessed mass of slovenly petty bureaucrats.

  25. Anonymous[299] • Disclaimer says:

    U.S. support for the Azov Battalion is not “Operation Paperclip.”

    Are you making a strawman argument or do you simply not have your terms straight? Paperclip was bringing Nazi scientists (like but not limited to Werner von Braun) to the U.S. What this is is Operation Gladio, a stay-behind network.

    The author writes:

    These Ukrainian storm troopers are among the most vicious and malignant combatants Washington has ever employed to implement its foreign policy agenda.

    Let’s see whom they’re “among” shall we?

    SEAL Team Six – “canoeing”
    Blackwater and the actual military in Fallujah
    Israel in Palestine
    The mujahideen in Afghanistan – How’d that work out? Brzezinski’s Folly: trying to give Russia its own Vietnam. Again, how’d that work out?

  26. Anon[993] • Disclaimer says:

    Unhinged people blithely say its all Putin’s fault. He is a bad man they say in proof of their assertion.
    I am guessing as to the number ( it is bloody hard to keep count) but is he the one who has primarily caused upwards of two million deaths tbis century?
    It seems crystal clear that it is the ones who make the stupid assertion.

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  27. Sepp says:

    I want to point out the inherent cognitive dissonance of someone accepting all the claims by the victors of the world war for Judea that the “Nazis” were out to commit “mass-extermination of Jews, Slavs and Gypsies“, while that same person who also claims that these exact same people are committing genocide against us with their “vaxxines”.

    How can you believe the version of European history presented by the very same tribe of Khazarians who are busy committing genocide against Europeans with their bio-weapon?

    Excess Deaths Point to Depopulation Agenda

    It All Makes Sense Once You Realize They Want to Kill Us

    The Conspiracy Theorists Were Right; It IS a “Poison-Death Shot”

    Planet Earth to Mike Whitney: The Khazarian Mafia has been lying to you for a very, very long time. You need to go do some homework and stop repeating their lies about WWII.

  28. Hopefully the UkroNazis and the foreign Nazi mercenaries will be annihilated but Ukraine is not the end of it. The real issue are the US rocket bases in Poland and Romania which are the sticking point between NATO and Russia. Unless the US is willing to remove these bases then Russia may very well have to destroy them and then we’ll see how NATO responds.

  29. JWalters says:

    Thanks for the links.

    Some valuable perspectives on the psychology and political and military positions of the Ukraine Nazis are given in this Lee Camp interview with US Marine and Former UN Inspector Scott Ritter on What The Hell Is Happening

    • Thanks: Humbert Humbert
    • Replies: @haha
  30. JWalters says:
    @Exalted Cyclops

    Zionist strategy – let’s you and him fight.

  31. Chriss says:

    General Issues
    Damage to the Environment
    Use of Depleted Uranium Projectiles
    Use of Cluster Bombs
    Legal Issues Related to Target Selection
    Overview of Applicable Law
    Linkage Between Law Concerning Recourse to Force and Law Concerning How Force May Be Used
    The Military Objective
    The Principle of Proportionality
    Casualty Figures
    General Assessment of the Bombing Campaign
    Specific Incidents
    The Attack on a Civilian Passenger Train at the Grdelica Gorge on 12/4/99
    The Attack on the Djakovica Convoy on 14/4/99
    The Attack on the RTS (Serbian Radio and TV Station) in Belgrade on 23/4/99
    The Attack on the Chinese Embassyon 7/5/99
    The Attack on Korisa Village on 13/5/99

    • Replies: @Chriss
  32. Chriss says:
    Former US President Bill Clinton travelled this week to Kosovo to celebrate the 20th anniversary of the end of NATO’s savage bombardment of Yugoslavia, which lasted 78 days from 24 March to 12 June 1999. Behind all of the hypocritical festivities, topped off by Clinton receiving Kosovo’s Order of Freedom and describing the authoritarian and corrupt government in Pristina as an exponent of “democracy” and “freedom,” his visit had the character of a warmonger returning to the scene of the crime.

    Clinton was joined for the ceremony by former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright and former NATO supreme Commander General Wesley Clark, all of whom played a leading role in initiating the war of aggression against Serbia under the guise of standing up for “human rights.”

    • Replies: @Chriss
    , @Notsofast
    , @Druid55
  33. The Azov Battalion isn’t. It is a regiment of 2,500 men in the Ukraine National Guard since 2017. As the Ukraine armed forces were about 240,000 before the war, this group is militarily insignificant. How many even hold “Neo-Nazi” views is open to question. Many think it is quite low.

    It is not the first time that Governments have incorporated radical paramilitaries into to their military – and it won’t be the last. Examples include the incorporation of Irgun into the Israeli Defence Force ( I’m sure Mr Unz could write a lot about that ! ) and many others.
    The advantages to the Government are obvious. It ennables them to put highly motivated individuals into the military and direct their aggression. Secondly, it helps neutralise or rein in any political parties with which the paramilitaries are associated.

    Obviously, all this is a godsend to Mr Putin, who can scare old Sovoks and others with stories of imminent gencide. However, the influence of the parties associated with the Azov Battalion can be disputed. Many think they are just a tool of the oligarch class, who actually control Ukraine. Zelensky, the Jewish President, and the Azov Battalion have some things in common, notably they were both bankrolled by the most powerful Ukrainian Jewish oligarch, Ihor Kolomoisky. The Haaretz newspaper considered him the most powerful Jew in the World! Add to which, the Azov Regiment has been armed by the State of Israel.

    Please read William Joyce’s article in this website, which offers a much fuller picture of the Jewish factor in Ukrainian politics.

    Ukraine = fake state.
    Azov Battalion = fake “Neo-Nazis”

  34. Chriss says:

    Dutch leaders involved in NATO bombing of Yugoslavia testify at The Hague

    …and Germany,

    The Central European Initiative or CEI, is the largest and oldest forum of regional cooperation in Central, Eastern and South Eastern Europe. It now counts 17 member states, many of whom are not even part of Central Europe: Albania, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Italy, Moldova, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Poland, Romania, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia and Ukraine. The origin of the Central European Initiative lies in the creation of the Quadragonale in Budapest on 11 November 1989 whose founding members were Italy, Austria, Hungary and the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (SFRY).

    The Initiative aimed at overcoming the division in blocks by re-establishing cooperation links, among countries of different political orientations and economic structures.

    At the first Summit in Venice in 1990, Czechoslovakia was admitted and the Initiative was renamed Pentagonale. In 1991, with the admission of Poland it became the Hexagonale.

    The organisation was renamed Central European Initiative (CEI) in 1992. On the same occasion, Macedonia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia and Slovenia were admitted as member states.

    The Czech Republic and Slovakia were admitted to the CEI in 1993 following the dissolution of Czechoslovakia. In 1996 Albania, Belarus, Bulgaria, Moldova, Romania and Ukraine joined the CEI as full-fledged members.

    The current membership derives from the adhesion of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (afterwards State Union of Serbia and Montenegro and later on Serbia) in 2000 and of Montenegro in 2006.

  35. ld says:

    infultration of institution politics police aided by the west with weapons and 30 biochemical warfare
    impunity to ra[e/murder kids and burn people alive
    ja volt

  36. meamjojo says:

    But why has the United States gone to so much trouble to arm and train these combatants when it appears that the Russian army is clearly going to win the war?

    That is not necessarily a given. Many Russian troops are being killed every day. Defections are high. Moral is sinking. A couple of GENERALS have been killed. If the Ukrainians can keep up an insurgency, then I believe that eventually, as like in Afghanistan, Russia will put their tail between their legs and crawl home to regroup.

    I believe that the Ukrainians need to not only use weapons to kill/cripple Russians but they should also be applying psychological warfare. Setup speakers that offer Russian soldiers who come to the side of the Ukrainians safety. Scatter the true story via leaflets through cities/towns that Russians are in. Make them question their reality. And so forth.
    Vitaly Gerasimov: second Russian general killed, Ukraine defence ministry claims
    Ukrainian intelligence says major general in Russia’s 41st army died outside Kharkiv along with other senior officers
    Mon 7 Mar 2022 20.51 EST

    Putin troops in total morale collapse – soldiers shoot EACH OTHER for not killing innocent
    A RUSSIAN troop said he was shot at by fellow comrades after he tried to protect Ukrainian civilians.
    Wed, Mar 9, 2022

    Captured Russian Commander Calls Ukrainian Invasion ‘Genocide’ And Reveals How The Kremlin Lied To Them
    Published 21:56, 08 March 2022 GMT

    • Disagree: true.enough
    • Replies: @Stevelancs
    , @Ukraine Tiger
  37. Self-identified fascists now hold positions of authority in the military, the government and the Security Services.

    This is a general phenomenon throughout the world. One would expect certain types of individuals with those attitudes to gravitate toward voluntary military and security services.

    Since numerous false allegations that were intended, in advance, to support Russia’s war of aggression were transparently shallow – at least to many – and thus easily deconstructed, the “Nazi” narrative, introduced only recently by Putin in a public speech, is now being trotted out, and spectacularly blown out of proportion. Out of desperation, it seems, a molehill is being transformed into a mountain.

    Conspicuously absent from this article was the one key piece of information that would have given a contextual perspective regarding the A3OB (Azov) battalion, which was purportedly upgraded to a regiment in 2015. These two military terms, in which the battalion is subsidiary to the regiment in an organizational hierarchy, do not in themselves provide the missing information regarding the actual size of this group.

    I am sure that its membership is not nearly even half as large as the population of the notoriously extremist illegal settlement of Kiryat Arba, near Hebron, whose inhabitants harbor ethnic hatred and terrorist sympathies, and have built a monument to the mass murderer Baruch Goldstein, who committed a massacre on Purim Day in Hebron 28 years ago. Surely plenty of US taxpayer money gets siphoned off to support this settlement community.

    Based on a source that described the A3OB battalion and regiments in some detail, the question on size is given by the following: “Approx. 1000 men in various sub-units“.

    Reasonable thinking would indicate that the existence of this group would certainly not be a rationale for waging a war against civilians in major cities in the Ukraine, especially Kiev and Kharkov, whose populations of millions do not share the ideological orientation of the regiment being singled out. Putin’s conflated de-Nazification goal is yet more bombastic rhetoric that may resonate with some people. Russia has already lost its propaganda war among most Western people, probably also among a substantial part of its own population.

    …when it appears that the Russian army is clearly going to win the war?

    That prediction appears simplistic. Winning a war is a relative concept nowadays because this assessment is determined according to the extent that initial objectives by the aggressors were met. (In reality all sides lose.) Initiators and defenders are measured by different standards. In this regard it appears that the Russian army has already “lost” the war, for the initial plan was to take over the major cities in a Blitzkrieg operation, which became evident by the days of food supply that captured or killed soldiers carried with them.

    Soldiers lack the motivation to fight because they were deceived into participating in the war under the pretense of conducting a military exercise, or “drill”. The Russian speaking population of Ukraine has not welcomed them with flowers but has fought them off and continues to provide stiff resistance. Even two weeks later, the initial military goals have not been achieved, so negotiations between foreign ministers are to occur tomorrow in the Turkish coastal city of Antalya.

    The CIA training program began in 2015 which suggests there must have been a plan for goading Russia into invading.

    No, there was no plan for goading Russia into invading, a ridiculous presumption that exposes the severe bias of the author, but of defending from a likely invasion by Russia with the minimum goal of establishing a land bridge between northern Crimea and Russia along the Azov Sea.

    • Disagree: bike-anarkist
  38. Dumbo says:

    Ah, about those American biolabs in Ukraine, they exist, the US admits:

    Demonic Jewess Victoria Nudelman: “There is no doubt in my mind, senator, and it is a classic Russian technique to blame on the other guy what they’re planning to do themselves,” she said.

    LOL. A “classic *Russian* technique”. Those Jews sure have chutzpah!

    I am really starting to believe that many of the people in the U.S. government are demon-possessed.

    • Thanks: true.enough
    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
  39. @Ingrian

    I don’t know what to make of this ‘biolab’ story. It seems a little to ‘qanon’ to be true, but then, you never know. Do they have an explanation for why the Americans had the stuff there whilst prodding Russia so hard, which seems risky, and also why they left it there even whilst predicting an invasion themselves?

    • Replies: @Getaclue
    , @Taliban
  40. MW is pretty much on target here, with the caveat that

    it’s these ersatz nazis who are working for a fundamentally JEWISH

    Zio-globohomo regime in Kiev. Not the other way around.

    Alzo, intimate connections between the nominal right-wing of organized Jewry, that is, Zionists,

    and hardRight anti-Jews are nothing new. Zionists both internal and external to Europe supported

    both Mussolini’s fascism and Hitler’s Naziism during the 1920’s-1940’s. Because:

    the Zion-in-Palestine project was going nowhere demographically

    unless and until they could find a dynamic, anti-Jew European leader

    who would chase hundreds of thousands of diaspora Jews out of Europe and into Palestine.

    (((They))) conjured up Hitler….and he did so.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
    , @Richard B
  41. Towey says:

    Hitler was popular because he bypassed the central bank to issue his own currency and achieved full employment in the middle of a world economic recession. That is why he had to be destroyed. The same goes for Gadaffi who proposed a new currency based on gold. The Bankers don’t allow competition.

    • Agree: Adam Smith
    • Thanks: beavertales, Nancy
    • Replies: @Ann Nonny Mouse

    Kim Philby reports (My Silent War) that continued support for Bandera was a bone of contention between MI6 and the CIA in the early ’50s; luckily Philby was in a position to spike both the CIA and MI6’s attempts to give Bandera’s bands concrete assistance.

    This has long history just as the original plans to destabilise Syria date from 1957 in UK

    NOTHING is new, everything has HISTORY

  43. That recalls the forgiveness of the exemplary Werner von Braun and the other boys in gray uniform.

  44. “ Adolph Hitler, was responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of people as well as the destruction of large parts of Europe and Russia.”

    With all due respect to Mike Whitney, whose journalistic contributions are invaluable, I would highly recommend that Mike read carefully the excellent essay by Ron Unz “The Demonization of Vladimir Putin as Another Hitler“ which very clearly cracks the official narrative of WWII. In the interest of balanced journalism the names of Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Winston Churchill should precede that of Adolf Hitler.

    Mike Whitney’s references, especially by Monseigneur Vigano, one of the remaining decent leaders of the Catholic Church, exposes the case of American and Israeli duplicity when it comes to collaboration with Fascists and Neo Nazis. Moral principles have never part and parcel of Western geopolitics and I very much doubt they will ever be.

    • Agree: E_Perez, Charles Orloski
    • Replies: @Mefobills
  45. Oracle says:

    If one agrees with the principle that no man is an island and that a collective’s existence is necessary for the existence of individuals, and if one understands that in this political climate, it is not possible to even hope for mere existence without being labeled with the enemy’s labels, then one can also understand that’s called vilification and it’s one of the steps outlined by the UN in the process of ethnic eradication.

  46. Anon[159] • Disclaimer says:

    If there was an Academy Award for hypocrisy, Uncle Sam would be the hands-down favorite.

    No… that would be the Jews.

    Christ told them to their face… “Hypocrites!”

    2000 years later, they are the Masters of Hypocrisy.

    Need I spell it out?

    Stop trying to give the true culprits cover.

  47. Publius 2 says:

    “Ukrainian authorities did not bother to conceal the fact that in 2014, Azov comprised neo-Nazi-leaning volunteers from countries such as Sweden, Italy, France, Belarus, Canada, and Slovenia.“

    Why is it so easy to find “Nazis” everywhere?

    Did the Jews do something bad that drew attention to themselves?

    • Replies: @annamaria
  48. Must read: Whitney Webb’s analysis of the CIA’s goal to pivot from the Ukraine insurgents to white nationalists in the US:

  49. Mike Tre says:

    The use of the term Nazi (basically its just a broad brush catch all slur for any group or person the PTP doesn’t like at the moment) has grown tiresome. By what action are these Ukrainians nazis? Are they displaced Germans attempting to revitalize a pre WWII German political party? Are they rounding up jews and gypsies? Or are they a bunch of morons running around hijacking NSDAP imagery from 85 years ago.

    The National Socialist Party of Germany is dead. It’s not coming back. Me hanging a swastika in my bedroom doesn’t change that.

    I can put on a powdered wig, but it doesn’t make me a member of the Whigs.

    I can wear a toga on the subway, but it doesn’t make me a strict Platonist.

    If you so called journalists want to be taken serious, stop evoking this term and come up with one a little more apt, like The Ukrainian Para Militant Clown Brigade.

    • Agree: Old and Grumpy
  50. Realist says:
    @Priss Factor

    I agree with your comments but have been constantly berated on this blog, by stating just such comments…even purportedly by Ron Unz, although I suspect it was a call by the moderator.

  51. Realist says:
    @Zachary Smith

    The part I didn’t care for was the link to professional jackass Tucker Carlson.

    Agreed Carlson is a minion in the charade put on by the Deep State. Someone gave him the moniker Cucker Tarlson…apropos.

  52. BuelahMan says:

    Poor Mike. So dumb he doesn’t know that he is actively protecting the jews by falling for the Nazi propaganda meant to flourish the jewish victimhood meme.

    We are not all ignorant, and certainly many of us refuse to stop pointing out how stupid (or purposefully corrupted) people like Whitney are.

    • Thanks: Sepp
  53. annamaria says:

    Hey, the famous UK castrati Ben Wallace (UK effeminite Minister of Def) and Richard Moore (headless head of MI6), why don’t you wear the Nazi insignia with pride? This is your color. And, by the way, leave Captain Tom Moore alone, you two petty war profiteers. he was an honorable man who thought with Nazism.

    Vladimir Zelensky’s visit to London on October 7-8, 2020, formally marked the transition of Ukraine to the patronage of Great Britain.

    First, the President of Ukraine and the Prime Minister of Great Britain Boris Johnson signed a bilateral agreement on political cooperation, free trade and strategic partnership — this was the first such agreement signed by the UK after Brexit.

    Second, the Minister of Defense of Ukraine Andrey Taran and his British colleague Ben Wallace signed a memorandum on strengthening cooperation in the military and technical spheres. The document provided for the allocation of a loan to Ukraine in the amount of 1.25 billion pounds and the re-equipment of the Naval Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with new British-built missile boats. At the same time, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba told the BBC that Kiev would not object if a British military base appeared on Ukrainian territory (although this is directly prohibited by the Constitution of Ukraine).

    But what is most interesting is that during Zelensky’s visit to London, he met with the head of the British intelligence service MI6By Richard Moore. The meeting was not announced, and in general they clearly tried to keep it secret, but the talks were reported by Ukrainian media focused on Washington.

    These Armed Forces of Ukraine armed by Great Britain:

  54. cohen says:

    You got to be kidding. Bio Weapons labs in Ukraine. Conspiracy theory right?

    No Victoria there are bio labs in Ukraine

  55. annamaria says:

    Captain Tom Moore fought against Nazism.

  56. cohen says:

    Victoria Nuland’s picture shows that she a ate all those cookies that she made for Nazi in Ukraine ate herself.

    • Replies: @Fritz Grantler
  57. annamaria says:
    @Publius 2

    Jewish communities of Canada and the US have been carefully cultivating the neo-Nazi (Banderite) community in Canada:

    At the same time, the Jewish Lobby has been mercifully harassing and imprisoning honest historians in WWII to protect the profiteering holobiz schema:
    Prisoners of Conscience:

    • Agree: Towey
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  58. @Anon

    …caused upwards of two million deaths tbis century?

    Causing more than two million refugees to flee Ukraine in fewer than two weeks is bad too.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Ukraine Tiger
  59. MuhNazis says:

    Is this UNZ or is this the ADL?
    You can’t stop blaming muh nazis, there’s no difference between this and some random mainstream article.
    Tiresome and boring, go learn what “Nazi” means and then come back.

    • Agree: Towey
    • Replies: @Tony Hall
    , @Sepp
  60. Mefobills says:

    What’s in a word? Much, because words invoke emotions and meaning in the minds of the listeners.

    Uncle Sam’s Nazi Warriors.

    Uncle Sam’s Neo-Nazi Warriors

    Uncle Sam’s Takfiri Warriors.

    Global Capital’s Takfiri Warriors.

    (((International Finance Capital))) useful idiots as warriors.

    Note that all of the above can be considered true, but some of the statements are more true than the others. Uncle Shmuel was subordinated to finance capital by the time of Spanish American War, and the (((capital class))) definetly had a lock on US of A after Wilson’s election in 1912. Woodrow – of the “I have unwittingly destroyed my country” fame.

    I don’t know how many times I have to repeat myself, but if you don’t keep your eye on the ball, you can become confused about the fabric of reality. Using words incorrectly can have consequences.

    Both Whitney and Putin are demonizing the NAZIs, when the real elephant in the room is money sick psychopaths lurking in the background.

    The chief culprit is money sickness, which is a real thing, on par with Psychopathy. Money sick people in control of Finance Capital, can then control the narrative and move the world. The narrative control also includes distorting the meaning of words.

    NAZI is one of the words that gets people all wound up because they have been programmed to react that way. The AZOV battalion is a tool of International Finance Capital in the same way as were the Takfiri Wahabist warriors.

    The string pullers are rubbing their hands in glee that you don’t see their hidden maneuvers, that you are easily led around by the nose.

    Here is a link provided by JWalters:

    Whitney… you took your eye off the ball.

    Below is the ball… and the reason for the Azov battalion, and the reason why Russia was a tool of the Bolsheviks.


    The Nature of Empire

    John Hobson’s 1902 classic analysis of Empire shows that big investors drive imperial policies, for their own benefit and at huge cost to the rest of society, including the immense cost of wars. “Imperialism. A Study”

    The key concepts are laid out in Part I of Chapter IV: “Economic Parasites of Imperialism”

    “By far the most important economic factor in Imperialism is the influence relating to investments.”

    “If, contemplating the enormous expenditure on armaments, the ruinous wars, the diplomatic audacity of knavery by which modern Governments seek to extend their territorial power, we put the plain, practical question, Cui bono? the first and most obvious answer is, The investor.”

    “Investors who have put their money in foreign lands, upon terms which take full account of risks connected with the political conditions of the country, desire to use the resources of their Government to minimize these risks, and so to enhance the capital value and the interest of their private investments.”

    “If the special interest of the investor is liable to clash with the public interest and to induce a wrecking policy, still more dangerous is the special interest of the financier, the general dealer in investments. In large measure the rank and file of the investors are, both for business and for politics, the cat’s-paws of the great financial houses, who use stocks and shares not so much as investments to yield them interest, but as material for speculation in the money market. In handling large masses of stocks and shares, in floating companies, in manipulating fluctuations of values, the magnates of the Bourse find their gain. These great businesses—banking, broking, bill discounting, loan floating, company promoting—form the central ganglion of international capitalism.

    The founding fathers never intended on the U.S. to become finance capitalist. They barely had time to understand what had happened when the Bank of England had come into existence in 1694. The revolutionary was against this predatory finance class.

    Today’s Russia is pushing back against the Western Finance Class, many of this class whom are mentally sick – they have money sickness and think they are god. If they are Jewish, they are especially dangerous as the religion gives sanction and cover for their sickness.

  61. “they oppose everything that America claims to stand for”
    No values, no problems.

  62. Blip Blop says:

    muh Hitler!

    They’ve got the goyim trained like dogs. They have a Pavlovian response to the whole thing.

    The goyim have the mental ability of 12-year olds. Every single conflict, whether routine domestic politics or some international boogeyman, gets boiled down to the same tired pattern:

    That bad man is Hitler and we’re the beach-stormers for muh freedom!

    It’s all so tiresome, especially since even Hitler and the original Nazis weren’t really the monsters they were made out to be.

    • Agree: Towey
  63. Anon[728] • Disclaimer says:

    Not Uncle Sam’s, the Nuland/Kagan clan’s Nazi’s. To them, this is no big deal. At their level of Zionism/Talmudism, the holohoax was just a technique for bringing naive Jews to Israel, creating the greatest pity play in the history of the world, and an excuse to demand reparations for nothing. No big deal for them to now work with Nazis.

  64. @Commentator Mike

    The real issue are the US rocket bases in Poland and Romania…Russia may very well have to destroy them…

    Before unthinkingly and recklessly repeating sheer nonsense, you might have actually looked at a map to notice that neither Poland and Romania even have a border with Russia.

    What you referred to as “rocket bases” are actually Aegis ballistic missile defense system installations, with radar tracking and intercept capabilities. They are defensive, not offensive.

    Furthermore, had you bothered to spend just a few minutes on the Internet on this topic, you would have learned that there is only one such facility in operation, in Deveselu, Romania, located far west of Bucharest, even closer to Bulgaria and Serbia.

    Notice how far away that is from Russia’s two main population centers, Moscow and Saint Petersburg. It is easy to understand that such a base with defensive missiles is not a threat to Russia. Any claim to the contrary was just another intentional pre-war propaganda lie.

    You could have also easily found out that the proposed base in Poland is located in Redzikowo, close to the Baltic Sea, not so far from the Danish island of Bornholm. According to the US Defense Department, the missile installation it will not be completed until the end of this year. Of course there would be no threat to Russia from this site either.

    Your gratuitous and asinine support of senseless warmongering by Russia is truly astonishing. I’m wondering if you ever even completed at least a high school education – which doesn’t mean much nowadays anyway.

  65. @Priss Factor

    Maybe the Slavic Nazis think that it is them who are playing their Jewish paymasters?

    Maybe we’ve been here before?

  66. denk says:


    fucker [IM Murdoch’s bitch] carlson


    JOhn [flirt with the chicom and u’r dead] Mearsheimer !

    wHEN there’r so many better alternatives ?

  67. Towey says:

    Americans are communists not fascists. You were allies of Stalin in the second WW and financed the reconstruction of the Red Army. It was Wall St and the American corporations that financed the Bolshevik Revolution. Without American money communism would not have prevailed.

    • Agree: HdC
    • Replies: @Alrenous
  68. Could America be in cahoots to destroy the Nazis with the help of Israel using the invasion, i.e. pit the Azov against the Russian army?

  69. Anon[198] • Disclaimer says:

    Can’t quite decide on what you mean or imply.
    Perhaps to point out that the USA incited the circumstances in which Russia felt constained to introduced a vector of force into Ukraine will suffice in reply?

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  70. @Dumbo

    I am really starting to believe that many of the people in the U.S. government are demon-possessed.

    Where is Malachi Martin when you need him? There is: demon-possessed, exorcism-possible; total-demon-possessed, hopeless. Nuland appears the latter.

  71. annamaria says:

    Judea Declares War on Russia:сe-original-documents-planned-offensive-operation-against-donbass-in-march-of-this-year/

    The Russian Ministry of Defenсe got original documents of the combat order of the National Guard proving that Ukraine was preparing an offensive operation against Donbass in March of this year.

    The document approves the organizational structure of the battalion-tactical group of the 4th operational brigade of the National Guard … this formation of the air assault troops of Ukraine has been trained by American and British instructors under the “NATO standard” training programs in Lvov.

    The U.S. Army’s mission as leader of this multinational training group is training, equipping and developing a training center and providing doctrinal assistance to the Ukrainian military.

    Ukraine’s National Guard says that in meeting last year the UK military agreed to start training its forces, which include a thousand-strong neo-Nazi unit.

    “U.S. removing about 150 military trainers from Ukraine:”

    The current insignia of the US government:

    The US Government and Army brass have no shame:

    • Thanks: Charles Orloski, Nancy
  72. ariadna says:

    Thanks. Curious when the lecture in the video was given. Not possible in today’s Germany.

    • Replies: @Petermx
  73. annamaria says:

    The American military in Ukraine or Judea Declares War on Russia:

    “The CIA’s program, launched in 2013, was conceived as a way of strengthening moderate rebels fighting Bashar al-Assad in Syria… CIA-backed factions have entered what has been called a “marriage of necessity” with the jihadist group, which is exploiting its position to gain access to American weapons .”

    “450 jihadists from Syria arrive in Ukraine”

    “Presiden Zelensky appoints [Nazi] Aidar Battalion commander as Odessa governor:”

    By virtue of decrees №87/2022 and №88/2022, issued in the evening of 2 March 2022, President Zelensky appointed Generals Igor Taburets and Maxim Marchenko governors of the Cherkassy and Odessa regions, respectively.

    General Igor Taburets is the former Commander of Military Intelligence.

    General Maxim Marchenko is the former commander of the Nazi Aidar Battalion which had been routed in the morning.

    Very timely for the approaching V-Day in the US

    • Thanks: Nancy
    • Replies: @Fritz Grantler
  74. Anonymous[194] • Disclaimer says:

    Jews just loooove to plant controlled opposition everywhere they can. Case in point:

    • Thanks: InnerCynic
  75. Anon[146] • Disclaimer says:

    What the hell is wrong with you people?

    This site, is one of the major white nationalist and racialist (race realist) sites in the English speaking world. It should be wall-to-wall pro Ukraine!!!

    Ukraine is an actual White Nationalist Nazi state and we’re not supporting it? WTF? And it’s supported by the entire western world!!!

    And you cowardly yellow-bellied sh!t stains call yourself race realists and white nationalists?

    We finally have a way in to the mainstream you idiots! Don’t you realise it? Don’t you get the opportunity? I get the chicken fukkers like Anglin who’re mainly FBI niggas pretending to be something they can never be, being against a white nationalist neo-nazi state like Ukraine, but you guys?

    You moronic cretinous dolts really don’t realise that we finally have a way into the mainstream for white nationaists and race realists via our brothers in Ukraine? Just to stupid to understand that the entire west, every liberal, conservative, greenie, leftie whatever, even every fukking Karen with her pussyhat on, is supporting our white nationalist brothers in Ukarine!!!!

    Oh, Zelenski’s Jewish is he? Yeah, so can any of you smegmas point out the difference between a pro-Nazi white nationalist Jewish run Ukraine and this site?

    This is a fJew run white nationalist race realist wedsite you fucktards!!! is fuking Ukraine-on-the-web!!!!

    So pull your fingers ourt of your fannys and get with the program of supporting Ukraines you dipshits!

    • Troll: Pop Warner, Nancy, Allan
    • Replies: @Mefobills
  76. Mefobills says:
    @Passing By

    That’s why when they conquer a city like Kherson, they leave all the civil administration in place. The Russian goal is literally the stated goal, destroy the neo-nazi zombies and neuter Ukraine.

    Exactly. Russia’s strategy is well thought out, and does not leave behind a political vacuum.

    Globo Homo, when it does wars, the objective is chaos, so the foreign lands can be bought up cheap. Then a comprador elite is installed, but only much later after the financialization phase has progressed are the compradors installed.

    For example, the “rebels” in Libya, installed a debt spreading bank before the war was even completed. Behind the bank were psychopaths such as Hillary Clinton and her donor class.

    In Syria, Russia left “corridors” intact, so that Takfiri mercenaries could go home. Those Takfiris that were especially dangerous remained behind rather than be interrogated by the Russians.

    In this way, the “green corridors” serve as a sorting of type. The radical mercenaries remained behind in the cauldron, so they could be killed. It took some time to negotiate the removal of innocent civilians in Syria, and the same is likely to occur in Ukraine.

    The Islamists that sort out, who remove themselves into the corridors, are “agreement capable” and are used to prevent a political vacuum.

    In other words, if the civil administration is agreement capable, they will be left alone. If the region in conflict is not agreement capable, the sorting process will find those who can fill the political vacuum, where said vacuum is friendly to Russian interests (and not Globo Homo). Russia will create a political class to run Ukrainian regions, and then retreat.

    I would expect that some of the worst elements, rather than being killed in the cauldrons, might even be given an incentive, a region of their own, say Galicia near Poland, and then let that region revert back to Poland. In this way, Russia fobs off the Azov types into Poland.

    Russia is going to slice and dice the Ukraine (the borderlands) and create a farming zone, which is basically the middle of the lands, and thus will restrict access to the black sea.

    The farming zone will also be politically neutral, and will serve as a buffer against future missiles, such that there will be some warning time to respond to missile attack.

    If hypersonics are placed on the current border, then there is practically no time for Russia to respond to attack. Eventually Globo Homo will figure out hypersonic technology, so the window of time to establish a buffer borderland is short.

    Putin was wise to start the war, a just war, to then prevent a worse war (WW3) in future. Statesman always operate to improve the future.

    Globo Homo types are sick in the head. Western democracies are run by string pullers who operate in the shadows.

  77. @annamaria

    Your Captain holidayed in India pampering his ego, and never seen a Nazi let alone a Christ in his entire live, otherwise he would not have postured like that. He was basically a war bludger.

    (I lived 2,5 years next door to an SAS, who had Gurkhas as bodyguards during JWW2… fanny enough he too was into car racing after the war…and he was always anxious to look after me and wanted to cook for me…showed me disgusting Brit fighting tricks…talked much about his bloody Gurkhas…and somehow seemed to have feelings of guilt…and he had much contempt for his brothers from the penal colonies called ANZACS (?) for their disgusting treatment of German teenage soldiers.)

    Do you want to have some more nobleties of your war heroes?

    No respect for Allied veterans (as a former member of a returned servicemen club)!

  78. Mefobills says:

    What you referred to as “rocket bases” are actually Aegis ballistic missile defense system installations, with radar tracking and intercept capabilities. They are defensive, not offensive.

    How many times has Putin said that the Aegis launchers can easily be converted to offense?

    Six gorillion times at least. Have you not been paying attention before spreading your disinfo?

    No rational person can argue with Putin’s contention. It is pretty damn simple to install new software into the system, and it can be done in minutes.

    “Aegis Ashore ground complexes include MK-41 universal launchers. Their feature is the ability to load both Standard-3 interceptor missiles and Tomahawk long-range cruise missiles, for which new nuclear warheads are being developed,” he said at the time.

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  79. @meamjojo

    “Captured Russian Commander Calls Ukrainian Invasion ‘Genocide’ And Reveals How The Kremlin Lied To Them
    Published 21:56, 08 March 2022 GMT”
    Take a look at any military parade in Moscow. Not a beard in sight. You and the western numpties are being conned. Again.

  80. Robby says:

    How can you insinuate that the AZOV Regiment is “right-wing” while also stating that “they advocate social regimentation, autocratic rule and glorification of the state”? These are obvious tenants of socialism/fascism which directly reflect the agenda of America’s far-left….. who happen to be in charge.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  81. Trinity says:

    What about (((covid-19?)))

  82. Scared of Jews/Feds after Charlottesville.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
  83. @Anon

    …the USA incited the circumstances in which Russia felt constained to introduced a vector of force…

    If this is all you can say, then you are lost. There were no legitimate reasons for Russia’s invasion.

    • LOL: Doug Hillman
  84. ariadna says:

    Thanks for the laugh.
    What you know about the Balkans and the present Ukrainian state (one part territory of old Galicia, one part each Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania and Russia) and about the RF easily fits in a thimble, but what you misrepresent about it all could provide “content” for a long CNN series.

    Oy, yeah, Deveselu is “located far west of Bucharest,” right you are: 160 km! That is why Deveselu is it also known as the Far West of” Oltenia. Thousand perished trying to cross it.
    Also, right you are again, it is “far away from Moscow”– some 900 km!.… Maybe in the future they’ll make continental interbalistic missiles capable of traveling such distances but not in the near future.
    In fact Romania itself is so vast that you can fly in a commercial plane for a very long time before leaving the Romanian air space and only after two and a half very long hours of flight time after takeoff you reach Tel Aviv.
    Americans (like you, I presume) growing up in the confined space of the US cannot even imagine the enormous European space, and maps often confuse them, as well the conversion from cm to in.

    As for “Poland is located in Redzikowo, close to the Baltic Sea, not so far from the Danish island of Bornholm,”…Oh, it must mean the US intends to protect Poland from a Danish attack, right?
    To paraphrase you: Your gratuitous and asinine support of senseless warmongering against Russia is truly astonishing. (Except that it is not really astonishing these days).

    An amusing side note:
    There are two US military bases in Romania: Deveselu and the one on the Black Sea. Who says there are no pluses to having a military US base on your territory? The one on the shore of the Black Sea has provided a bit of help to the local black market. The news was quickly suppressed by the MSM to protect the US from embarrassment. Two years???!! And nobody at the base noticed it? (See below). One can argue that \$2 million over some 5 years is pocket change to the Pentagon but others say the theft was more substantial. Time for inventory en Deveselu?

    “Members of an organised criminal group allegedly stole fuel worth \$2 million over four years from a US military base in southeast Romania, prosecutors have found.

    The US filed a complaint with Romanian prosecutors who found out that several members of an organised criminal group have stolen liquid fuel, especially diesel oil, from the military base in Mihail Kogalniceanu and other areas dedicated to military exercises in the Constanta region.

    According to Romanian prosecutors, the fuel thefts started in 2017 and are worth an estimated \$2 million. They have since detained seven persons in connection with the case after conducting investigations.

    US armed forces have been using the military base near the Mihail Kogalniceanu airport since 1999. The base has also hosted other NATO military aircraft which are policing the Black Sea airspace.

    • Thanks: Petermx, Commentator Mike
  85. The Democratic Party is going to be defeated in Ukraine quite badly.

    The whole point of the Democratic Party’s slaughter in Donbass and all of Ukraine is to weaponized hatred 0f Vladimir Putin and Slavic Russia into open GENOCIDAL hatred of the Historic Native Born White American Working Class Majority….Call this the transference principle……

    So for example, if oppose Hindu LEGAL IMMIGRANTS coming to America LEGALLY so they can’t vote Native Working Class White Americans into a White Racial minority within the borders of America….you are a White Nationalist…therefore a Fascist….therefore a NAZI!!!…..therefore brutal Police State repression…..followed by extermination by nonwhites who serve in the US Military and Police Departments across the US…..with Hindu Judges giving out prison sentences to White dissidents. Who do think sentenced the Jan 6 protestors to jail?

    You will be straffed and bombed by Hindu and Pakistani and Sikh USAF Fighter Pilots……The homosexual pederast Joint Chiefs of Staff will make certain of this……

    You have been warned!!!!!

  86. TKK says:

    It’s astonishing to me that this crowd is falling for this latest American skullduggery – remember 9/11?

    This “war” is the brother from another mother.

  87. @Mefobills

    …simple to install new software into the system…

    It not only requires new software but also different warheads or missiles. Also, Russian missiles inside launch sites in the Königsberg / Kaliningrad region threaten far more people in Europe than the Romanian NATO missile base might theoretically threaten Russians, from afar, if offensive missiles were ever placed there. The entire matter reduces to arms control negotiations instead of projecting military threats, as Putin did last December.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  88. Mefobills says:
    @Joe Levantine

    In the interest of balanced journalism the names of Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Winston Churchill should precede that of Adolf Hitler.

    Joe, It does get annoying waiting for our “pundit” class to catch up. Please Whitney, and you too Ron Unz, try to keep up.

    The good news, is that they are slowly overcoming their narrative conditioning. Ron is especially brave. Most of the Western people (I’m American) were born into false narratives, that they then lapped up in their didactic schools, and were spoon fed by the owned press. It is too difficult to go back and sort through falsehoods. Normies don’t have the intellectual firepower or guts in most cases to overcome their conditioning.

    Here is a link to our previous conversation regarding Revilo’s revelations about FDR:

    UNZ readers may or may not take my advice, but it is good to disabuse yourself of narratives that don’t make sense. This greatest generation worshiping at the alter of FDR needs to be overcome.

    Its hard for many to accept, that maybe Hitler wasn’t so bad, that FDR was much worse than they were led to believe, and that Stalin was probably the chief architect of WW2. Churchill was a drunk piece of shit… and physiognomy is real.

    Maybe it was only Hitler and NSDAP that had the civilizational gonads to exit the control of (((international finance)))? See my link above in this thread, about who the real rulers are, where the “ball” is that your eyes should be focused on.

    These things are hard to accept for those who have been brainwashed since birth.

    Here is a repost of some of Revilo’s links: He had an up close view of FDRs shenanigans.

    • Agree: HdC
    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
  89. @Priss Factor

    Most westerners cannot wrap their heads around “the Nazi thing” in Ukraine. It’s back to “how can they be Nazis when they have a Jewish president?” Even though during WWII you had organized Ukrainian military units and guerilla fighters like Bandera allied with the Nazis, the roots of their ideology was centered more around hatred for Bolsheviks (and by extension Jews) due to the Holodomor in the 1930s. I don’t think of these Ukrainian Slavs so much as stupid but because the the country has pretty much been an economic shithole since its inception, groups with roots in past Nazi involvement will pretty will desperately bite at anything or anyone who will throw them a few shekels. The international globalists and oligarchs (Jewish and non-Jewish) know that resentment -past or present, real or imagined, is a fairly easy thing to manipulate. If you want to define this as stupidity, I am not going to give you too much argument. Once the few shekels coming from globalist sources dries up, and things become normalized in Ukraine (let’s see where this goes) -the boys that love to parade in jack books with freaky insignia and torches will return to a much quieter traditional animus of Jews, as well as queers, blacks or whatever. They have ignored the pushing of globo-homo only because of the shekel flow. Maybe one day these folks will see that Putin would have been a far better partner than Victoria Nuland or Kolomoiskiy could ever be.

    • Agree: bike-anarkist
    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  90. @cohen

    Victoria Nuland actually revealed too much. Rubio managed to deflected her faux pas by blaming the Russian. So chivalrous of him. Mrs. Kagan is a prime example that we gave up too soon on witch trials and witch burnings. #Broom lives matter

    • Agree: TKK
    • Replies: @TKK
  91. @mulga mumblebrain

    I must confess that I thought the decline of the Empire would be something of a gradual, not-overly-noisy affair. That notion, of the Empire going out with a whimper rather than a bang, is now torn to shreds, and the question becomes, considering the political class and media bristling with escalatory fervor “Will the world be able to avoid the Empire going out with a nuclear bang?”

    I was not worried before, but now … I don’t know. It will only take one little mistake for this thing to blow up.

    Now personally, I’m quite far from the zone of vulnerability, what I refer to as “the nuclear blast zone”, and quite prosperous. So to whatever extent it is possible to be “safe”, I’m safe.

    So looking ahead to see where this will go, my response to:

    The plan to defeat Russia was never intended to succeed in the initial phase of the conflict, but to lay the groundwork for a bloody and protracted insurgency fought by these same CIA-trained paramilitaries who now act as Uncle Sam’s Nazi warriors.

    … is the old saying “No Plan Survives First Contact With the Enemy”.

    Putin thinks ahead and is strategically adept. Ukraine is ***DEFINITELY*** not Afghanistan. And the Empire’s Neocon-directed foreign policy has a track record of self-delusional overconfidence leading to brilliant failure.

    • Thanks: CelestiaQuesta
  92. Getaclue says:
    @al gore rhythms

    You missed what the USA/Fauci did at WuHan? Was that “Qanon” too?

    • Replies: @al gore rhythms
  93. As others very cogently point out, Mike Whitney, you need to move past the jewish-inspired undergraduate shrieking of Nazi/Fascist, references to “Adolph” Hitler, and references to “far right” Nazi’s to be taken seriously.

    Your essay has so many glaring stupidities, conflations and oxymorons that some here understandably see it as foolish at best and zioprop at worst.

    Please take time to read the very able critiques which are posted above.
    These have been posted for your (apparently needful) education on recent history by members of a generally knowledgeable UR Commentariat.
    Continuing to post essays such as this will/have already damaged your credibility.

    • Replies: @Towey
    , @Anon
  94. Nazism died over seventy years ago. Can we please move on? Let the boys and girls of Azov stand on their own crimes they did on the behest of their Jewish oligarchs, American Congressmen, and US State Dept. No Hitler or Germans needed for the deflection.

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
    , @Alrenous
  95. The Russians are the scum of the earth and we all know it. May they die and all go straight to hell for their approved actions in Ukraine.

    Here is proof that Russians kill people indiscriminately:

    • Troll: Ukraine Tiger, ariadna
  96. @anonymous

    As I read the original above, I could not avoid this parallel formulation:

    However, they’re just being exploited by Israel as proxy cannon fodder just as Israel uses everyone the US in particular, to be discarded later after everything’s been squeezed out of them. In this the US, the Russians and the Ukrainians are just puppets who get taken down but the puppet-master Israel, which gets off scot-free, laughing at how cheap it is to rent these chumps, and looking for its next adventure.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  97. Mefobills says:

    This site, is one of the major white nationalist and racialist (race realist) sites in the English speaking world. It should be wall-to-wall pro Ukraine!!!

    Ukraine is an actual White Nationalist Nazi state and we’re not supporting it? WTF? And it’s supported by the entire western world!!!

    What the hell is wrong with you? I’m the reigning UNZ Nazi, and I can see through the B.S., but you can’t?

    You are being played. You are being punked.

    There is no functional difference between the UKRO Neo- Nazis and the Takfiris. They are both tools of (((globo homo))). Being used as a tool for you paymaster is being stupid in the extreme.

    Real NSDAP Nazis like myself, understand that Hitler was trying to stand up consensual and moral civilization. The Ukraine is not a functioning state, and the string pullers behind the polity are the worst sort of people.

    Aryans are supposed to be smart, and of the highest moral fiber.

    • Agree: CelestiaQuesta
    • Thanks: Trinity
  98. Joe Wong says:

    American national policy “We’ll deal with Russia first, then move on to China.” is eternal from day one the USA exists, that’s why the American always frosts and props Japan against China no matter what. USA is an innate enemy of China.

    • Replies: @denk
  99. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Carlton Meyer

    The Ukraine operation amounts to Russia trying to mop up yet another Judeofascist mess.

    I have no idea why Putin will name the Nazi, but not the Judeofascist. It’s as if Moses, when it came time to dispose of the Golden Calf Hebrews, said Oh, never mind. We’ll give them the benefit of the doubt. Or Jesus, when it came time to thrash the Synagogue of Satan from the temple, said Oh, let them stick around. They’re good with money.


    • Agree: Richard B
    • Replies: @HeebHunter
  100. Mefobills says:

    The entire matter reduces to arms control negotiations instead of projecting military threats, as Putin did last December.

    Who is threatening who?

    NATO rolled up to Russia’s doorstep, after abrogating promises made about not moving one inch to the east.

    Moral people make agreements and stick to them. They don’t rub their hands in glee as they dupe the goy.

    Putin has been explaining what Russia’s red-lines are for much longer than just “last December.”

    But, you are right in that arms control negotiation is part of the mix to solve the problem. Unfortunately, Russia rightly sees the west as “non-agreement compliant.” Why? Because the west has broken all of the previous agreements, or unilaterally pulled out of treaties.

    The western brain is occupied by a parasite, and causing it to malfunction. The west is the empire of lies.

    • Agree: Doug Hillman
  101. Petermx says:

    I would bet he’s not one of the more popular people among the establishment there but it appears he’s not disobedient enough to be thrown in jail. Amazon has the book as published in 2011 so I would assume the lecture is 2011 or later

    • Replies: @ariadna
  102. @Exile

    He probably helped funnel Russian funds to some of the more degenerate among them and certainly knows KGB and SVR that did.

    And you PROBABLY give sexual favours to State Department wonks.

    PROBABLY doesn’t get a lot of mileage here. Towey’s comment actually has grist for the mill.
    Your comment is based on shear dis-nformation.

    Are you stupid, or just woke and stupid?

    Saying “NATO R Tha Real Nazis” (NR3?) is just a good propaganda move to make NATO look like even more murderous hypocrites than they already are. even more murderous hypocrites than they already are.

    There is so much more background to this “event” that can be extrapolated to include probable events. Since Canada has quite cadre of Ukro-Nazis interfering with the Govmnt, that makes Canada a Nazi-Sympathizing govmnt. (you should see the looks I get when I state that!)

    I have come to believe that PROBABLY the post-WW2 Jews extrapolated the Baba Yar Massacre to become the template for the Holocough.

    PROBABLY is good enough to be true?

  103. Wielgus says:

    Vzglyad Russian website March 9, 2022 (Yandex translation, edited)

    When Ukraine becomes more accommodating


    The fourth round of negotiations between Russia and Ukraine is expected in the near future. Why did the three meetings that took place lead to almost no results, what saving opportunities does Zelensky still hope for, and why does Moscow still continue its seemingly hopeless attempts to negotiate with Kiev?

    In the spring of 1945, Adolf Hitler, who was in Berlin surrounded by the Red Army, hoped to the last for victory. His hopes were pinned on Walter Wenck’s 12th army, which was supposedly about to come and throw the Russians away. According to legend, the Fuhrer regularly asked his generals: “Where is the army of Wenck, where is it?”

    Vladimir Zelensky is now hoping for about the same phantom army of Wenck. Moreover, the appearance of this “army”, as an instrument of miraculous salvation, can take various forms. The establishment of a no-fly zone over Ukraine (so that Russian aviation does not flatten Ukrainian military facilities), the introduction of NATO troops or PMCs, the inclusion of Ukraine in NATO, the mass dispatch of modern weapons systems (including aircraft), the introduction of even more total economic sanctions against Russia.

    And despite the fact that the West says that such steps are impossible, Zelensky still hopes and believes. At least, he assures me of it. And since it takes time for the “arrival of the army of Wenck”, he is trying to pull it through the negotiation process with the Russian Federation on the territory of Belarus.

    “Kiev has been pulling the cat for five years for everything that is possible in order to mow down from the implementation of the Minsk agreements. Probably, on a hint from Washington, Zelensky’s team decided to play the same game, hoping to slow down Putin,” Crimean journalist Sergei Veselovsky explains to the newspaper VZGLYAD.

    Washington really suggested it – and, at first glance, it seems strange. The United States is not ready to support Ukraine – but at the same time they ask it to stall for time. The answer is very simple – the United States sincerely hopes that Russia will back down under the weight of sanctions. That it will stop the operation in Ukraine.

    “Neither the Americans nor the Ukrainians have fully understood that Moscow has made a decision and will no longer play giveaway with the insane,” Sergei Veselovsky continues. However, the hope for the arrival of the Wenck/capitulation of Moscow dies last, so the Ukrainian delegation is meeting with the Russian one for the third time on the territory of Belarus. For the third time, many hours of negotiations are held – and for the third time they cause, to put it mildly, disappointment.

    “The discussion on political and military aspects continued, but it is not easy. It’s too early to talk about something positive. We arrived with a large set of documents, took specific contracts, projects and proposals, hoped that today, regarding those points on which it seems to have already been agreed in principle, it would be possible to sign at least a protocol, but the Ukrainian side took all these documents home for study, could not sign something on the spot,” said the head of the Russian delegation, Vladimir Medinsky. Ukrainians, following their tactics, demonstrate their readiness to go for the fourth approach.

    Without a single step

    At the same time, Kiev is playing very clumsily – in fact, no progress has been achieved in three rounds of negotiations. As the Chinese say, the path of a thousand li begins with the first step, but Ukraine does not do it, even in humanitarian matters. In particular, it cannot agree with Russia on a minimum of a minimum – the opening of humanitarian corridors for the withdrawal of refugees from besieged cities (Kiev, Mariupol, Kharkiv, Sumy, Chernihiv).

    He can’t–but he doesn’t want to either. For three real reasons.

    First of all, because the refugees will not be silent. “It is clear to us that the Kiev regime by all means prevents the exit of willing civilians and foreigners to Russia, because it is afraid that people, once free, will tell the truth about the actions of Ukrainian radicals, as do those who managed to escape from the hands of these radicals,” said Russia’s permanent representative to the UN Vasily Nebenzia. According to him, we are talking about “threats, intimidation, blackmail by physical violence, the use of weapons against civilians and foreigners.” And such stories will be a serious blow to Ukrainian propaganda.

    In addition, as military expert Yuriy Podolyaka correctly tells, the entire defence system of Ukraine is built on the nodal points of defence in large cities. At these points there are mechanised units that leave the city, launch counterattacks on Russian units – and then go back into the cities, under the cover of civilians. And if civilians are withdrawn, then the Ukrainian units will be without protection.

    Finally, the Nazi battalions are categorically against such a scenario. After all, if Kiev still wants to arrange humanitarian corridors and thereby weaken the defence of cities, then parts of the Ukrainian army can surrender. They will be fed, watered, and after the end of hostilities, they will be released to their homes for the most part. And the same Nazis from “Azov” are waiting for a completely different fate – at best a long time, and at worst…

    At the same time, Kiev, unable to reach even the simplest agreements, already wants to increase the negotiating level. “We have long wanted direct talks between the President of Ukraine and Vladimir Putin, because we all understand that it is he who makes the final decisions, especially now,” says Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba.

    We talk until the last

    In this regard, a reasonable question arises: why does Russia tolerate this, why does it continue to send Medinsky to a meaningless dialogue with Kiev?

    There are several reasons for this. So, Kiev can be different – you can talk there not only with Zelensky, but also with the generals, as well as the oligarchy.

    “Inside the Ukrainian “Hitler’s General Staff”, not all are beyond reason. Some understand that the end is near and you need to lay yourself at least a couple of bundles of straw. But they do not always do it skillfully and foolishly shoot, not watching the language. Kireyev was killed along with the officers of the GUR by SBU officers who were following the orders of those who do not want to negotiate with Moscow,” says Sergey Veselovsky.

    And if the “alternative centres of power” negotiate a little more intelligently, then perhaps the liberation of a number of Ukrainian cities (which are controlled, for example, by oligarchs) will go much faster.

    Secondly, Moscow demonstrates to the Western public its willingness to negotiate. The history of international relations and the banal rules of PR state that you should never refuse offers to discuss a peaceful solution to the problem – even if you understand that negotiations will not lead anywhere.

    At the same time, the two reasons listed above pale in comparison with the third, the most important. For Vladimir Putin, unlike Zelensky with his “drug addicts and Nazis,” Ukrainians are their own. Part of the great Russian people. That is why he wants to minimize civilian casualties, that is why he leaves a chance for denazification and demilitarisation of Ukraine through the negotiation process. That is why the Russian leadership says that the military operation will end immediately after the Ukrainian army lays down its arms. Therefore, Vladimir Medinsky regularly visits Belarus and will continue to visit.

    However, an endless visit is also not expected. Russian troops are successfully moving forward. The massive disappointment of Ukrainians from the realisation of reality (which they already feel thanks to the gangs of looters from the Volkssturm roaming the streets of cities) can cause, in turn, a coup or even the collapse of Ukrainian statehood.

    Therefore, time is playing against President Zelensky. He needs to understand that there is no army of Wenck and there will not be. And that if he continues to hope for a miracle he does not deserve, he may well end up like Hitler, disappointed by the absence of this miracle.

  104. @Priss Factor

    Ukraine is only 2% Jewish, but all these Slavo-dummies let Jews take over.

    The same applies to all the non-jewish US citizens. How come they have you all over the barrel and are giving you all a hard pounding?
    I have a hardcover book by a former British communist, first published in 1950. The author, Douglas Hyde, from a working class background gives an in-depth account of how to capture local governing bodies and take control.
    Douglas, after serving the communist cause all his life, got disenchanted and dropped out. It’s a very honest and heartbreaking account of his crusade for communism.
    Maybe you can find this book on line, so I’ll post the details below:
    I BELIEVED by Douglas Hyde
    First published in 1950
    Republished by the Reprint Society Ltd.,
    by arrangement with William Heinemann Ltd. 1952

  105. @Old and Grumpy

    Both sides need a strawman (“the Nazis/the Russians”) because
    Naming the Jew is verbotten. It can´t go on forever.

    • Agree: Trinity, Druid55
  106. @Brooklyn Dave

    Having a Jew as the supreme commander of the UkroNazis is the whole point of it. And then Putin can respond with an anti-Nazi war without mentioning the Jews in charge, while the Western Jews, shabaz goys and their msm can scream that they’re not Nazis … because of the Jews in charge.

  107. @Been_there_done_that

    Next thing you’ll be telling me they’re there to protect against Iranian ballistic missiles. LOL. As if Iran wants to bomb Eastern Europe. You’re just a propagandist or a fanatical irrational anti-Russian hater.

    • Replies: @Doug Hillman
  108. Trinity says:

    Ukrainian (((“Notsee”))) = (((Bolsheviks)))
    What happened to Ghislane Maxwell?

    Hey (((the Jew globalists))) cannot have a war in the middle of (((covid))) can they? That shit be racist,yo.

  109. NATO rolled up to Russia’s doorstep, after abrogating promises made about not moving one inch to the east.

    You are exposing how misinformed you are about this topic by repeating popular cliches (doorstep, inch), which I have recently shown to be lies or exaggerations, taken out of their context. If you have any interest you could easily find my explanations in the archives. Yet even if all this were actually true, it would not justify the current invasion of Ukraine.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  110. Dumbo says:
    @Priss Factor

    This guy (Richard Spencer) was *always* an obvious plant. Why would anyone take this clown seriously? What has damaged white people in the US more than Charlottesville? Well maybe only the January 6 “insurrection”, promoted by another Judas goat, Trump.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  111. @TaterSalad

    Another lunatic Russophobe maniac. The UkroNazis are going down, fast or slow. As will the idiot foreign Nazis rushing to Ukraine to commit war crimes and crimes against humanity. And don’t think that running to the West is going to save them – remember how Bandera ended up gassed with cyanide on a street in Munich.

  112. Führer ZionLendSki is now begging; wants to urgently negotiate and Putin(g) what they want, accepting Crimea & Donbass the way the RUS has it (already).
    If little Hitler, that is what Jews & hyenas, the creators of fake Uki-Nazi, have been calling Putin for two decades, if little Hitler talks to the Juwki-Führer & Cons (all Jews on the Kiew) than the Putin might as well go to hell himself.
    For your Ukrainian Nazis (Jews) can only be one non negotiable place be left: the lamp poles on Maidan and the Azov boys must live (to rebuild the Ukraina) in chain gangs togehter with the Rabbis.

  113. Ian Smith says:

    This pearl-clutching about neo-Nazis in Ukraine is seriously the gayest form of Putin-sucking.

  114. @Exile

    It’s pathetic to see both Russia and the West call each other da real nazis. Putin should have been up front about the reasons for invading Ukraine instead of throwing red meat to his boomer base and crying about le ebil ukronazis. I WISH there were more nazis in Ukraine because then they would oust that jew president.

    Both the West and the East are living in this modern Jewish morality, where “fascist” is synonymous with “bad guy” and Hitler is the Great Satan of the 20th century for killing some jews. There isn’t any side in Europe that is free from this toxic mindset, which is ALWAYS used by jews to attack Europeans themselves, regardless of whether they fought for or against Hitler. Europe will be forever shackled to this jewish view of history as long as it keeps using “fascist” as a crude insult.

    • Replies: @Exile
    , @Biff K
  115. Joe Wong says:

    Those [graduates of the CIA programs] neo-Nazi Ukrainians and CIA agents appeared in the USA-UK-DPP engineered 2019 HK color revolution riots, they did act as rioters’ leaders, directors, and controllers on the ground but not at the first line of action. They melt away and out of HK once the HK police took strong counter riot actions.

    • Replies: @denk
  116. Anon[356] • Disclaimer says:

    The US did not arm the “head choppers” but rather paid lip service to wanting Assad to be ousted. But in fact Russia and the US were/are on the same page regarding syria ; labeling any and all Syrians who opposed this brutal mass murdering decades long regime, as “head choppers” terrorist fundi fanatics. The Americans were all saying ; though Assad is bad, if he’s toppled things could get worse! How worse can torture prisons and bombing and leveling of towns be? They also said; well he’s good to Christian. Like that is the only moral calculus they have.[ well looks like good- to -Christians- Assad’s enabler, Putin is not good to Ukrainian Christians ] The reason isis gained a foot hold is because the world stood by as Putin/ Assad, engaged in a holocaust of Sunni Syrian Arabs, who were NOT fundi fanatics. The same way the Amerikans engaged in a holocaust of Sunni Arab Iraqis in Baghdad;we murdered them all, and installed a Shia/ Kurd government with a green light to persecute the Sunni a Iraqi Arabs, even prohibiting them from being part of the Democratic Iraqi government! THAT gave rise to isis, as fundi fanatics from all over the world, many ignorant internet convert psychopaths descended on Iraq,then went into Syria. The Americans all praised Putin when he got Obama out of his red line ultimatum gaffe. What’s Alleppo was the US’s actual response to Putin/Assads leveling of that ancient city. God heard that and answered their contemptuous complicity with a holocaust; it’s Ukraine!

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  117. annamaria says:

    In the US, one cannot criticize Nazism anymore.

    But Facebook allows praise of the Nazi Azov Battalion:

    The Judeo-Nazis dictate what to think. The US Army brass is trembling and obeying the Ziocons. The dishonorable US brass has no memory and no future.

    • Troll: Sepp
  118. The CIA has been busy for decades training Uncle Sam’s Nazi Warriors, from black power militants, remember Jewish hippy radicals ‘Chicago Seven’, Muslimjihadens, Columbian-Mexican-Afghan drug cartels, SPLC, NAACP, BLM, Antifa, the list is long.

    While Uncle Sam’s CIA was busy training anti-white hate groups, they were calling whites “white supremacists and domestic terrorists. It’s funny how they use the same simple playbook over and over while whites are corralled into their safe houses brainwashed until they are forced to submit to GlobalHomoZioBIGsRxMIC3BLM every demands or risk any means to a livelihood, or even worse, shamed, banned and cancelled from social media.

    How convenient to start another war now to distracts from failures of a Hundred Years’ War that never ends. This war opera reality show has played out far to many times. It’s time we stop giving our money to immature PIGs (People in Government) who get off playing war games in their personal sandbox with real weapons and human lives.

  119. Notsofast says:

    too bad some angry serb didn’t give them the archduke ferdinand treatment.

  120. Wielgus says:

    Donbass forces doing their own version of psychological warfare. Captured member of Aidar battalion says he joined up because there was no other work, says Zelensky has fled and tells Ukrainians to give up their weapons. This is as real or unreal as any amount of pro-Ukrainian stuff out there.

  121. Sepp says:

    This is a comment relevant meme from Anglin’s Memetic Monday:


    • Replies: @Sepp
  122. Mefobills says:

    You are exposing how misinformed you are about this topic by repeating popular cliches (doorstep, inch), which I have recently shown to be lies or exaggerations, taken out of their context

    Good goy propagandists like you always mix in some truth. Another tactic is to limit the argument, say by asserting a certain historical point in time, but not going back further or giving context.

    It is actually you who are misinformed and making a fool of yourself.

    Below is from 2017, so it is not new information. People that purposefully leave out of account relevant information are disinfo agents.

    U.S. Secretary of State James Baker’s famous “not one inch eastward” assurance about NATO expansion in his meeting with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev on February 9, 1990, was part of a cascade of assurances about Soviet security given by Western leaders to Gorbachev and other Soviet officials throughout the process of German unification in 1990 and on into 1991, according to declassified U.S., Soviet, German, British and French documents posted today by the National Security Archive at George Washington University

    Other documents are also available… but it would take bravery to disabuse yourself of false notions.

    A NATO hypersonic missile placed in Ukraine has only minutes of flight time to Moscow. That effectively is a doorstep and inches, despite your bleetings to the contrary. Putin has already explained this, but you weren’t listening.

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  123. annamaria says:

    Are you “Semite-led Untermenschen” or simply Semite (Judeo-Nazi)?” – Nice to see your holobiz tall tales going in smoke, particularly because it was your own tribe that made this final, irrevocable step in collaboration with Ukrainian neo-Nazis.

  124. Sepp says:

    This one proves that it is all about Kazaria, not “Ukro-Nazis”…


  125. I’m at least 124 comments late but watch the TUR commentariate devolve into utter incoherence in 3..2..1..

  126. Mefobills says:

    The US did not arm the “head choppers” but rather paid lip service to wanting Assad to be ousted. But in fact Russia and the US were/are on the same page regarding syria ; labeling any and all Syrians who opposed this brutal mass murdering decades long regime, as “head choppers” terrorist fundi fanatics. The Americans were all saying ; though Assad is bad, if he’s toppled things could get worse! How worse can torture prisons and bombing and leveling of towns be?

    This whole comment thread is whack a mole. All of the retards are coming out of the woodworks. I suppose that is the case because the Western Media is an empire of lies. The U.S. did arm the head choppers via the petrodollar system, and then they flew air cover for the mercenary army via U.S. air force.

    IT WAS RECYCLED PETRODOLLARS that funded the Takfiris. Globohomo wanted to put pipelines across Syria. This was to cut-out Russia from sending natural gas to Europe. The natural gas was to come from the South Pars Condensate Field. Qatar was also funding the Takfiri’s as they wanted to tap into the Pars and bypass Iran.

    The TBill/Petrodollar economy came into being in 1973. The agreement was signed by Saudi Kingdom. It is KSA SUNNI monarchies who created Wahabbi ideology.

    It is no accident that the Takfiris are mostly Sunni Wahhabists, and further they are mercenary soldiers paid for by recycled petrodollars, which in turn is Globo-Homo. The Takfir’s are punks receiving their lucre from Globo Homo, exactly the same as the Azov types in Ukraine.

    I’ve been warning everybody on this comment thread to keep your eye on the ball. If you don’t, you can get confused about who the players are. The ball in comment link below.
    Whitney also took his eye off the ball.

    The western world is FINANCE CAPITALIST. If you don’t understand that, and the behind the scenes string pulling of the capital class, you can easily be maneuvered by trigger words, such as Nazi. It is not good to be confused and led around by the nose.

    • Replies: @Anon
  127. JVC says:

    Just as a reminder–only 2 countries voted against a recent UN resolution condemning neonazism.
    Those countries would be the Ukraine, and the United States. Also remember the founder of the CIA–Allen Dulles==was a leader in recruiting Nazi intelligence/SS personnel and spiriting them out of Europe into the US . One might say that the CIA evolved directly from Nazi teachings, and the continuity is, and has been, obvious.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  128. Tucker Carlson may be the “best essayist” on TV (and I watch him nightly), but Whitney’s claim that he is “America’s best essayist” is going a bridge too far. I’ve always thought that the best essayists, the best journalists, write for a living. At the start of Russia’s incursion, he blamed the aggression solely on Putin, although he backtracked a night or two later and blamed it all on Biden and the democrats. One thing Tucker will never do is to bring up the role of the Jew.

    OTOH, I can’t blame him for it. He wants to keep his lucrative job. If Fox decides it can’t take the heat and fires him, he’ll be replaced by another neocon. The only thing saving him is that he has the top-rated show in the genre, although I hear his show is having trouble attracting sponsors. If the Biden regime stumbles into direct conflict with Russia, and a few American soldiers are killed, it could well mean bye-bye Tucker from the airwaves. Which would be tragic. Of course, he could start his own podcast and be free to say what he really thinks.

  129. Wielgus says:

    Look inside a captured base of the Ukrainian Spetsnaz unit Medvedi (“Bears”) near Mariupol. Insignia of a bear’s paw as well as Nazi insignia are noted. They seem to have left in a hurry, leaving a mess including a fair amount of munitions and a Ukrainian flag.

  130. JewSA says:

    Ukraine was meant to “lead the white races of the world in a final crusade … against Semite-led Untermenschen

    This worked out well didn’t it? Ukraine has had more blacks immigrate since the Jew coup in 2014 than the 100 years before it combined. Ukraine the Shabbas Goy of the Synagogue of Shaitan.

  131. @Mefobills

    It is actually you who are misinformed …

    Funny that you are quoting an article from Marxism Leninism Today to draw this erroneous conclusion. For a more intelligent appraisal please note the following message (January 30, 2022 at 10:18 am GMT), which includes an embedded link to a Russian publican in which Gorbachev confirmed in an interview that the not-one-inch comment by Baker in 1990 did not apply to NATO for all eternity, as you erroneously want to believe, but explicitly to East Germany. (His purported pledge has been kept to this day.) Just follow some of my earlier comments to convince yourself.

    Your problem seems to be that you threw critical thinking out the window and substituted it by trusting phony political propaganda instead.

    A NATO hypersonic missile placed in Ukraine has only minutes of flight time to Moscow.

    I thought everyone has agreed that NATO has no hyper-sonic missiles. They do not have any missiles placed in Ukraine, so you are trying to invoke and defend two combined fantasies.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
    , @Mefobills
  132. Taliban says:
    @al gore rhythms

    Wel the uSSa likes to experiment with all kinds of deadly viruses/pathogens….. But they’re not allowed in their own country…. therefore they are doing it in Ukraine, Georgia Kazachstan and all other Stan’s…..

  133. Exile says:
    @Pop Warner

    I can understand the Russian logic. If you omit the myth of angels vs. demons in WWII, modern Russians have to reach back to repelling Napoleon for a historic high note.

    Russia almost entirely collapsed after they abandoned the mythology of communism. As a Russian leader I would not rush to knock out a central pillar of Russian pride and identity right now. It’s a big reason why Putin has so staunchly endorsed Orthodoxy.

    I would lean on what I had. Plus the Nazi myth is double-edged for the “Allies” in this context.

    But analysts and pundits should not be falling for this.

    Whitney is smart enough to nuance this if he used his head rather than going with Pavlovian trigger responses over “Nazi bad.” The information is out there, especially at this very site.

  134. Mefobills says:

    One might say that the CIA evolved directly from Nazi teachings, and the continuity is, and has been, obvious.

    Whack a mole.

    The CIA is a direct lineage to MI6. MI6 in turn is directly related to the mercenary army wing of British East India Company.

    After the Indian rebellion in 1857, the British Crown assumed direct control of India with the British Raj.

    At this point in time, Globo Homo constructs were complete. A debt spreading private bank came to control a country, and it had a mercenary secret service to help enforce far flung debt contracts.

    The debt contracts in turn are part of the capital class I’ve been trying to drill into the brains of the normies in the comment threads.

    The CIA antecedents are NOT NAZI. Operation paperclip was an operation to grab German Scientists, technology, and patents. At the time, the National Socialists were the most advanced people and economy on the planet.

    If you live in the western world, you have been fed a cock and bull story all of your life.

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  135. Thank’s so much for the detailed analysis. It looks like the US is currently executing a staged pre-planned operation against Russia. Russia knows that but they have chosen to escalate the thing slowly as long as the fighting is limited to Ukraine. However the conflict might slip out of Ukraine, and whenever the thugs loose the C&C support from Uncle Sam they will be forced to retreat, I hope so.

  136. Biff K says:
    @Pop Warner

    OK children…today lets look at the letter “N”

    Poor spelling and grammar as well as the absence of proofreading makes many comments a real chore to digest. But a screwed up (excuse the expression, neovocabulary) has only added to that perennial problem.

    In Europe and in the West in general, (ironically, with girls being the exception), acting too man-ish has acquired the nomer “nazi.” Acting too man-ish takes many forms, way beyond scratching your ass while hoofing over to the fridge to get the half&half for your coffee. Recently used in Ottawa meaning “truck drivers” even things that are common sense like minding your own goddamned business now falls under (supposedly) Vlad’s definition of “nazi.” An unfortunate misuse of the term – although in Vlad’s case it does have some pertinence, although not for the right reason. Heck, if Kiev needs anything, it would be a batch of blood thirsty Nazis – and I mean real ones, going after what they were invented to go after! Maybe in that screwy Cyrillic alphabet “nazi” reads “NATO?” [somebody should check that out]

    The letter “N” has become very important in schools these days. Why don’t the girls & kids just go back to using the word narcissistic? (Frankly, like “nano” it at least sounds smarter, no?).

    Come to think of it, “Neoliberal” is another one – I’ve noticed at least 6 different definitions in its now frequent use. Then there’s [email protected] – an “N” word that’ll destroy your Social Credit Score in a heartbeat.

  137. Mefobills says:

    I thought everyone has agreed that NATO has no hyper-sonic missiles. They do not have any missiles placed in Ukraine, so you are trying to invoke and defend two combined fantasies.

    Now I know that you are stupid and have low reading comprehension. You are not reading the thread comments and are only pushing your false narratives.

    If hypersonics are placed on the current border, then there is practically no time for Russia to respond to attack. Eventually Globo Homo will figure out hypersonic technology, so the window of time to establish a buffer borderland is short.

    Putin was wise to start the war, a just war, to then prevent a worse war (WW3) in future. Statesman always operate to improve the future.

    Globo Homo types are sick in the head. Western democracies are run by string pullers who operate in the shadows.

    You are sick in the head, and are virtue signaling for your masters.

  138. Clyde says:

    However, they’re just being exploited by the US as proxy cannon fodder just as the US uses everyone else, to be discarded later after everything’s been squeezed out of them.

    Senile Putin is the cannon fodder master in this mindless Putin invasion. He uses his own Russian boys as cannon fodder. And maybe the 10,000 strong Chechen army that Ramzan Kadyrov assembled. That was all over the news 2 weeks ago. But it looks like Ramzan has bailed on Putin because he thinks Pooty will not be around too much longer. The Chechnyans are sitting out senile Putin’s war

  139. Alrenous says:

    Fascism is just Communism for those who lack faith and wish to compromise with little adjustments like not all starving to death.

    • Replies: @Towey
  140. profnasty says:

    Nazi Schmatzi.
    NSDAP. Nationalist: Support Legacy citizens of like kind with inviolate borders. Socialist: Communism sucks. Ever notice how the Big Capitalists on Wall Street are mostly open borders, race mixing Communists? Democratic: The people should have a voice in big national decisions. Workers: Socialism works when Everyone Works. Party: Hey, who doesn’t enjoy a good party?
    NSDAP is where you want to be.

  141. Corrupt says:

    Your spreading of Russian propaganda is despicable. Azov is not Nazi… And they treat the separatist areas the same as Russia treats it’s separatists.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  142. Biff K says:
    @Priss Factor

    By “homo” you mean “gay.” The two terms are far from equivalent.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
    , @Biff K
  143. Wielgus says:

    According to the Russian site Vzglyad, the Ukrainians have asked foreign journalists not to put “TV” on their vehicles as the Latin letter “V” is used by the Russians and journos might get shot by mistake.

  144. IMO the war is being stoked intentionally…

    because the Fed is backed into the corner and must raise interest rates.

    This morning, 09 March 2022 the Fed QE Treasury purchases stopped:

  145. Probably the headline will not be a surprise, just further evidence of the malevolence of the Mad Dog. The US agency involved in these 30+ Biolabs is —

    The “Defense Threat Reduction Agency” at (where else) the Pentagon.

    Uncle Shmuely can think them up …
    Just right for all those clean-cut Americans to pretend to themselves what clean-cut work they are doing; like eg the “soldiers” firing DU into civilians in Fallujah.
    It’s why America is so respected worldwide.

    Ukrainian biolabs near Russia’s borders engaged in the development of components for biological weapons, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova has said.

    • Thanks: RichardDuck
  146. Mefobills says:

    For a more intelligent appraisal please note the following message (January 30, 2022 at 10:18 am GMT), which includes an embedded link to a Russian publican in which Gorbachev confirmed in an interview that the not-one-inch comment by Baker in 1990 did not apply to NATO for all eternity, as you erroneously want to believe, but explicitly to East Germany.

    You are a legend in your own mind, right? Superior intelligence, engaged in PilPul.

    Endless quibbling and argumentation as a tactic to confuse and tire out opposition in political debate. Typically employed by liberal bugmen posing the question “What is a White person” and then continuing to focus on outliers and border examples unrepresentative of a well defined core definition.

    Basically, it is Jewish equivocation and hand waving to deflect attention.

    It is laughable that the former Soviet Union was OK with NATO to bypass East Germany, and then advance to Ukraine.

    Putin even offered to Clinton, for Russia to join NATO, this to have security guarantees.

    Of course, Clinton did his pyschopath chuckle, and proceeded to move NATO eastward.

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  147. annamaria says:

    Who has hatched the neo-Nazi monster in Ukraine?

    These three organizations: the Anti-Deformation League (ADL), American Israeli Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), and Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA).
    In short, the neo-Nazi Shabbos in Ukraine is the Jewish Lobby’s baby.

    For decades, the ADL and AIPAC have been deadly hostile to anyone doubting the holobiz stories. Hundreds of decent people lost employment, were beaten by Jewish thugs, and some were imprisoned, including solitary confinements.

    At the same time, the Anti-Deformation League, American Israeli Public Affairs Committee, and Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs have been carefully cultivating the so-called Banderites in Canada. The Banderites are the progeny of Nazi collaborators and members of SS 1st Galicia. While imprisoning honest historians in WWII, the Jewish Lobby was promoting Banderites and allowing them to hold regular Nazi parades and build Nazi memorials. Exhibit One of this peculiar Jewish support is Christya Freeland, a proud progeny of a prominent Nazi collaborator Chomyak.

    It has no sense to expect any decency from these Jewish organizations. They hate Western civilization with the same passion the Jewish Bolsheviks hated Russian civilization.

    • Agree: Yukon Jack, Towey
    • Replies: @Mefobills
  148. The United States has been arming and training far-right militants that are the ideological descendants of Nazi war criminals that were directly involved in the mass-extermination of Jews, Slavs and Gypsies during the Second World War.

    That’s where I stopped reading.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  149. @Mefobills

    MI6 in turn is directly related to the mercenary army wing of British East India Company.

    That’s correct, Mefo.
    The initials M.I. stand for Military Intelligence.
    MI5 = domestic ; MI6 = foreign

    At the time, the National Socialists were the most advanced people and economy on the planet.

    Also correct and easily verifiable by those who are not too lazy to put in some research.

    Incidentally, one may write (as in snail mail) to MI5 to inform them how much they are admired (or whatever LOL). Do not mention James Bond, Skripal, top-secret papers left at bus-stops, or From Russia With Love. The address is —

    PO Box 3255, London SW1P 1AE. (info from Wiki)

    am Ende steht der Sieg.

    • Agree: Mefobills
  150. snuffy says:

    My question is, how does having a Jewish president line up with having neo Nazi militia or even government controlled extreme right wing anti semitic military units? What am I missing here?

  151. Sepp says:

    Since Mike Whitney seems to be obsessed with flinging spittle over “Nazis” and the Holofraud, I thought I would provide an important update concerning the latest chapter of the Khazarian genocide of Europeans dating back to the beginning of the last century.

    Dr. John Campbell on the Pfizer FOIA document release


    Campbell states in typical British understatement that it is “Quite Alarming” and wants to know why it wasn’t released earlier.

    “Surely this should have been public domain from the start”. LOL. Big Khazarian Pharma corporations don’t need no “Informed consent”

    In 3 months 42086 adverse reactions or in cover up speech “events”. 1223 deaths from the clot-shot admitted by Pfizer during this 3 month period alone.

    At about 9:30 he gets into the long, long list of adverse reactions. It is “quite alarming”.

    at 13 min Campbell goes through the additional 9 page list of “adverse events of special interest”. LOL. “Safe and effective” to a Khazarian means only 9 pages of side effects and “conditions”.

    At 16min Campbell gets into Austria now saying that the “cost” of vaccine side effects are “not favorable” compared to the benefits.

    “The coverup is a scandal on a par with Watergate” LOL. More British understatement.

    Listen to Cambell stutter at 20min. LOL. “If it is something I caused”… He is culpable for the toxic poisoning of millions of idiots who listened to his “daily talk” of moronic gullibility.

    “It appears that we have done some harm”

    “Their understanding of the word safe is completely different from my understanding of the word safe”.


    But never forget: Nazi’s gassed and cremated 6 million innocent Jews out the of 2.5 million Jews living in the area that Germany conquered. I know that is true because Khazarian Jews never lie. Just ask Mike Whitney.

    • Agree: Towey
  152. Anon[356] • Disclaimer says:

    Petro dollar system? You’re talking about Saudi Arabia, which is NOT Assads secular Syria. But the petro dollar system where we got below market oil and that helped us win the cold war,[ only Americans could afford huge gas guzzling cars, which exemplified arrogant Americanism during the later 20th century] is exactly what the fundie fanatics objected to, but there are non fundie fanatic Sunni Arabs, who also objected to tyrannical dictators which either the US or the soviets supported for their cold war alliances[ military bases, etc].Not all Sunni Arabs are fundi fanatics and those who rose up peacefully to topple Assad, were not, and for that matter neither were core Alqaeda whose objection was not to our not being Muslim but to our policies in their homelands which did not benefit the people there but did benefit only US and Israel and/or Soviets and the ruling dictator regimes. Though that is exactly what Islamophobes and anti Semites[ against semitic Arabs this time] of the west and the east want US to believe. You’re regurgitating that propaganda. Which is why the right wing media is now all in a bind; there’s Hannity the biggest war mongering genocidal fantasizing anti Semite in the US[ against semitic Arabs, that is] now curbing his hatred of Arabs including Saudis[ the best friend in the ME the Amerikans ever had ] for the reality on the ground; SA oil is preferable then war with Russia ] is not erased by media propaganda.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  153. Mefobills says:

    It has no sense to expect any decency from these Jewish organizations. They hate Western civilization with the same passion the Jewish Bolsheviks hated Russian civilization.

    They are front organizations for their international global finance capital class.

    WW2 was won by these same people… basically creditors holding debt instruments on the world, and then extracting rents – to have a nice easy life.

    In order to take rents and unearned income, they tell themselves sweet lies, like how important and intelligent they are, while their victims are mere animals to be harvested.

    It is a special kind of sickness. With money sickness, there is no loss of wants. The world is not enough.

    Below link are crises actors, no doubt who get their filthy pay from this same finance class. It is actually pretty funny, but also sad that we have fallen this far.

    We’ve entered a new era, where social media has the reach to brainwash the simple minded. The human evolved for millenia with a slower, and more “real” stimulus provided by nature, and not the jewtube.

    Video Link

    • LOL: Yukon Jack
  154. @Mefobills

    You are not reading the thread comments…

    You invoked your own conjectural (“if“) comment, which I had read. earlier Please prove that (1) NATO has successfully developed accurate hyper-sonic missiles and (2) has placed them In Ukraine, which were your premises. If you cannot show this you are indulging in fantasies.

  155. Paul C. says:

    More fake news revealed in this 30 second video.

    Video Link

    • LOL: Trinity
  156. Mefobills says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    both Mussolini’s fascism and Hitler’s Naziism during the 1920’s-1940’s. Because:

    the Zion-in-Palestine project was going nowhere demographically

    unless and until they could find a dynamic, anti-Jew European leader

    who would chase hundreds of thousands of diaspora Jews out of Europe and into Palestine.

    (((They))) conjured up Hitler….and he did so.

    Whack a mole time… again!

    The didn’t conjure up Hitler. What a bunch of BS.

    Both National Socialism and Fascism were a response to national labor coming under control of the finance capital class. It was disruptive to have the economy shift from agrarian farming to industrialization. The movements were organic, and against the actors you claim was supporting them. The finance capital class was horrified about the rise of Fascism and National Socialism. Our Jewish friends were especially overwrought by it.

    In the case of Germany, it was attacked to start WW1, then there was a bear raid finance attack by the west which caused the hyperinflation, then the democracies wanted war when Hitler was elected.

    Here is Mussolini on Fascism. Anybody who bandies the word Fascism had better do their homework, and that includes Whitney in this editorial, who obviously gets it wrong.

    • Thanks: Pop Warner
  157. @Mefobills

    It is laughable that the former Soviet Union was OK with NATO to bypass East Germany, and then advance to Ukraine.

    This is the second time you were shown to have made a wrong claim and then accused me of pilpul. NATO has not advanced (in)to Ukraine. On what basis do you claim this?

    Gorbachev, to whom Baker was alleged to have made the “not-one-inch” proposal, personally confirmed in the interview what should have been obvious, namely that it applied to Germany, which was the subject of the negotiations. NATO expansion occurred after the break-up of the USSR, under Yeltsin, later under Putin. Russia agreed to this in the Paris treaty in 1997. Instead of acknowledging the facts you revert to denial and more false accusations. You must be in some kind of ideological Vlad-Cult trance, like so many other commentators who post here.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  158. Mefobills says:

    You’re regurgitating that propaganda. Which is why the right wing media is now all in a bind;

    I’m not regurgitating propaganda. I’m setting you straight.

    Nixon went off the gold standard in 1971. In 1973, Kissinger went to KSA (Kingdom of Saudi Arabia), to sign the petrodollar deal.

    Oil is to be priced in dollars, and the Kingdom cannot have its own bourse. This is why today, you don’t see Saudi as big finance actors, like the Jews.

    Petrdollars are to be recycled to Western Banks, and especially to buy TBills.

    In return, KSA gets U.S. NAVAL protection via the 5’th fleet, and front line military gear, including AWACs jets.

    KSA was allowed to recycle Petrodollars into building Madrassas, especially in the Chechen area and in China’s Uighur areas. In this way redical Islam was funded by globo homo.

    The first run for this recycling of Petrodollars was the good terrorists, the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan.

    You don’t want to admit that the Takfiris are dupes – then fine. Go ahead and make pretend.

    The KSA made a deal with the devil.

  159. @Getaclue

    As I said, you can say that America was goading Russia into invading Ukraine (which seems to be the case to me) or you can say that the Americans had secret biolabs in Ukraine…but holding both of those opinions together requires some explanation, doesn’t it?

  160. @Corrupt

    Another Nazi fan-boy. It’s those uniforms-so sexy! Probably a ‘Guardian’ ‘liberal’.

    • Replies: @Corrupt
  161. Skeptikal says:

    Whitney’s account is sadly incomplete.

    The CIA program in the Ukraine was launched right after WW2. The Asov Battalion did not “create itself” in 2014.

    You cannot understand the situation in the Ukraine today without mention of Reinhard Gehlen. A search of this webpage did not get a hit, so most of the US-Ukraine-Nazi story has been left out.

    From Wiki’s Gehlen entry:
    “In late 1945, following the 7 May surrender of Germany and the start of the Cold War, the U.S. military (G-2 Intelligence) recruited him to establish the Gehlen Organisation, an espionage network focusing on the Soviet Union. The organisation would employ former military officers of the Wehrmacht as well as former intelligence officers of the Schutzstaffel (SS) and the Sicherheitsdienst (SD).[3] As head of the Gehlen Organization he sought cooperation with the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), formed in 1947, resulting in the Gehlen Organization ultimately becoming closely affiliated with the CIA. ”

    Except basically Gehlen’s organization–a thick web of spies and Ukrainian fascists who had fought on the Nazi side during the war—was already in place, primarily in the Ukraine.

    According to Doug Valentine (whose name also does not appear on this webpage), the CIA, using Gehlen and his web of agents in Ukraine, were focused on the Ukraine from the get-go, as the obvious forward point of attack to destroy the USSR (see Valentine, The CIA as Organized Crime; see also “Seventy Years in Ukraine,’

    [excerpt from a longer 2-part interview video] “A nine minute segment from Part 2 of Doug Valentine’s The CIA As Organized Crime. For 70 years the CIA has been working to undermine and occupy Ukraine to bring down Russia using such things as paramilitaries, right wing Nazi groups, corrupt politicians and businessmen, coups, and warfare in the eastern Ukraine region of the Donbass.” ).

    If one follows Valentine, I think Whitney also has it wrong in his point 4.
    The USA is very much interested in Ukraine’s resources. That is, US oligarchs and their pals, such as the Bidens. Yes, let’s talk about ALL the oligarchs, not just the Russian and Ukr ones.

    So get going and fill in Whitney’s blanks. He is a quick study on lots of subjects, but this one requires a deeper understanding of the history of this region than Whitney seems to possess. Even the “recent” events started well before 2015. For instance, I see no mention here of Yulia Timoshenko, the blonde bombshell with braids, and others who were and are players driving the situation to where it is now.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  162. Biff K says:
    @Priss Factor

    Slavs are wrapped up in religion. It’s a cultural thing. Think Bible thumping hillbillies but with a taste for sauerkraut and kielbasa, oblivious to cornbread. Wearing socks, and sporting numerous gold caps instead of dentures and wearing shoes sans sox. Little more than that, really.

    Raised in a classic (nowadays termed “ethnic”) predominantly Slav and Italian neighborhood in a large American city, in post WW II times, I can tell you that in more than just a few of us, our BS detectors went off when we were first hauled off to church at the age of 4 or so. Bells & smells and some man nailed to a telephone pole (telephone pole? – supposedly back when electricity and phones weren’t even thought of in the wildest of dreams?). Adults who otherwise seemed entirely sane, suddenly and inexplicably acting like someone would if, say, someone just stabbed your cat to death, right in front of you, and strangest of all, carrying on like that in unison! [did you ever consider what that looks like to a four year old who spends a lot of time, all week long, observing adult behavior?] God forbid don’t get me started on blessing Easter baskets containing a stick of butter carved in the shape of a cute little lamb with cloves for eyes; or walking on our knees the length of the church, to kiss Jesus’ feet at the head of the altar on Good Friday – well yeah, “good” in our opinion because yippee! no school. Let’s just say, that outside of the then austere Eastern Europe, in many cases Vatican II finished off what our BS detectors started, for those of us who could manage to somehow doubt cult things.

    Eastern (geographically central) Europe, probably for linguistic reasons, has experienced delayed moderin* (*local dialect – like Saturin, pasteries, etc) cultural evolution than Western Europe, with its centuries of WASP influence and, more recently, broader more non-censored exposure to Jewlywood and ((London)) TV culture. Hence, its churches are relatively more busy today.

  163. annamaria says:

    The Kagans’ clan was lining up with Ukrainian neo-Nazis well before 2014.

    The Jewish Lobby has been priming Canadian and Ukrainian Banderites for a fight against Amalek-Russia for the last 30 years. There are Nazi memorials in Canada, which were “tolerated” (cultivated) by the Jewish Lobby. All according to the sick Talmudic mentality “what is good for Jews.”

    It is not the Jewish Lobby that might surprise with its unbounded cynicism and indecency; Talmud allows everything to Jews. It is the US Army brass that has been living willingly under the Jewish heel and betraying the memory of Americans and Europeans fallen during WWII.

    American military brass is for sale.

  164. I recall I usually like Whitney’s stuff, but this article is not making any sense to me. Could be because it is all new to me, but:

    1. National socialism is a good thing as practiced in the past. A nation should be coherent and it’s gov’t stick up for its own people. It is opposed to communism which is international socialism. I don’t believe the CIA funds Nazi’s, or why is all of American govt working for globalization, which is communism.

    2. Many volunteers in Ukraine from Sweden, Canada, etc.? What the what!? How many? You must have approximate numbers to write that, so what are the numbers? Probably like 5 guys from each of those countries mentioned? Or am I supposed to believe that thousands of Canadians have left for Ukraine to serve in Neo-Nazi death squads?

    3. Descendants of Nazi war criminals? Doesn’t the smart money today say there were none, basically, but that the real war criminals were bolsheviks and the US 8th Air Force?

    This article is like a cross-compilation mess of various myths.

  165. @Kurt Knispel

    Nazi is just a short term invented by jews to name the National Socialists. Therefore it ain’t extreme right but leftist.

    • Replies: @Kurt Knispel
  166. Trinity says:

    Muh Ukraine.
    Muh “Nazis?”
    Oy vey. The flying know, Saul.

  167. @Biff K

    Are the two guys here ‘gay’ or ‘homo’?

    • LOL: Swaytonious
  168. annamaria says:

    It is important to mention that Banderites (Ukrainian collaborators with German Nazis) were saved from the Nuremberg court and delivered safely to Canada. There, Banderites held their regular parades and even built Nazi memorials. They were never bothered by Jewish organizations.

    The Trudeau government has been using the Canadian military for training the Ukrainian neo-Nazis.

    Trudeau the puppet is under a command of a prominent Banderite Christya Freeland:

  169. @meamjojo

    It is a given. There is fuck all insurgency happening around here. I am still waiting to see the “invaders”.

  170. anonymous[408] • Disclaimer says:

    This is why UNZ is such a great site.

    We have a tsunami of articles praising nazism, white supremacy, etc, and denouncing Jews as the most destructive evildoers humanity has ever seen.

    And then we have articles like this one saying the exact opposite.

    If only the comments were not censored!!!

    One can only dream.

  171. @Been_there_done_that

    And not one of them was in any danger. Could have just stayed home and sat it out.

  172. Towey says:

    Fascism is a NATIONALIST ideology that arose in response to the atrocities committed by the communists. In Spain it was because of the atrocities committed by the communists during the Red Terror leading up to the civil war. It’s funny how nobody seems to have heard of it.
    In Germany it was because of the national and economic destruction caused by the vindictive Versailles Treaty, the economic and moral decadence of the Weimar Republic and the atrocities committed by the communists Hungary, Russia and Ukraine.
    To paraphrase General Patton, who did understand the difference.’ We defeated the wrong enemy. We should have joined the fascists to defeat the communists. In 50 years the USA will be morally destroyed’.
    And I am willing to bet that in a few years, with the economic and moral destruction caused by the communists, people in the USA will be crying for a strong leader to rid them of the scourge.
    Hitler’s sin was to bypass the central bank to issue his own currency and achieve full employment in the middle of a world depression. THAT is why he was popular and had to be destroyed. And I am willing to make another bet that when this debt based financial system finally collapses, leaders will have to look to Hitler’s example if they wish to restore their economies.

    • Agree: Arthur MacBride
    • Replies: @Alrenous
  173. “The United States has been arming and training far-right militants that are the ideological descendants of Nazi war criminals that were directly involved in the mass-extermination of Jews, Slavs and Gypsies during the Second World War.”

    Show us the electrified conveyor belt of steam bears the “Nazi war criminals” used to masturbate the jews to death with in a gas-tight eagle cage or go f*** yourself with this s**t,Whitney.

    • Agree: meamjojo
    • Replies: @Towey
  174. Ram says:

    What we haven’t heard in the recent days are things like, ” They are killing their own people in the country” (allegedly 5000 Kurds in Halabjah) and the ” Responsibility to Protect” or R2P,. These words were used when we tried to justify killing a million or so people in Iraq. Bush and Blair were deemed to be heroes for a time.

    Putin is doing exactly the what Blair and Bush did after 14000 people were killed in East Ukraine over 8 years. Yet he gets no such plaudits, even though he did his best to prevent blood shed over the 8 years.

  175. Mefobills says:

    This is the second time you were shown to have made a wrong claim and then accused me of pilpul. NATO has not advanced (in)to Ukraine. On what basis do you claim this?

    Damn more PilPul hair splitting on your part. You are a good example of why people hate Jews.

    Read Whitney’s article here:

    Do you even know about the security assurances that Putin was asking for? The security assurance was that NATO was NOT to forever expand up to Russian border. Russia was having fever dreams about NATO infrastructure in Ukraine. Why is this concept so hard for you?

    Pilpul is hairsplitting the law and using legal arguments, rather than looking at the intent of the law. The intent of not moving NATO east was for Russian security. The fact that it was no longer the soviet union is you doing pilpul.

    Athenians hate Jerusalemites.

    The war between Athens and Jerusalem continues relentlessly into our present day, and this side of the 21st century, it is cultural philosopher and Jazz artist, Gilad Atzmon, who now updates us on this epic and raging battle where each side is struggling to occupy the very perception of humanity itself. Both sides claim to be the saviors of mankind; and currently, the Jerusalem school of thought is leading, but only because its agents have successfully infiltrated to the core, the elite leadership and governments of the Western world.

    The western brain is host to a finance parasite. Jerusalemites are not agreement capable. Only if it is good for the Jew.

    The security assurances Putin wanted from the west, met a wall of hair splitting from the usual suspects.

    Circling back to your vomit about Gorbachev means less than nothing. There was probably never good faith on the part of western globo homo to not advance east. Bush was likely snickering into his sleeve about how he got over on Gorbachev.

    The Jerusalemites who now infest the west were rubbing their hands gleefully at the opportunity to dismember Russia and turn it into so many new debt instruments denominated in dollars. The idea was to extract Russian wealth, and to hell with the patrimony that rightly belongs to the Russians.

    The point is, that there never was a written agreement. There was only a verbal agreement, which is a big green light for Jerusalemites to practice the usury game.

    The conclusion is that the West has gone rogue, it is no longer of Athens, and now the (((worst sorts))) use any underhanded tactic they can dream up. As long as there is money in it, then it must be good.

  176. Anonymous[655] • Disclaimer says:

    The United States has been arming and training far-right militants that are the ideological descendants of Nazi war criminals that were directly involved in the mass-extermination of Jews, Slavs and Gypsies during the Second World War. These Ukrainian storm troopers are among the most vicious and malignant combatants Washington has ever employed to implement its foreign policy agenda.

    Mike Whitney, you are an idiot or a very sick man.

    • Agree: meamjojo
    • Replies: @Trinity
  177. @Mefobills

    “ It is untrue that I or anyone else in Germany wanted the war in 1939. It was desired and instigated exclusively by those international statesmen who were either of Jewish descent or worked for Jewish interests. I have made too many offers for the control and limitation of armaments, which posterity will not for all time be able to disregard for the responsibility for the outbreak of this war to be laid on me. I have further never wished that after the first fatal world war a second against England, or even against America, should break out. Centuries will pass away, but out of the ruins of our towns and monuments the hatred against those finally responsible whom we have to thank for everything, international Jewry and its helpers, will grow.”

    From Hitler’s final testament. For full reading see link below.

    Son of Sam, aka David Berkowitz, one of America’s most notorious serial killers had his say at court but no such right is allowed to Hitler. This testament is a small step towards history objectivity. I would deem it unprofessional to assess Hitler’s true beliefs and state of mind without having read Mein Kampf.

    The verdict about Hitler’s legacy is still work in progress as we realise where the victors of WWII are leading us.

    • Agree: Sepp
    • Thanks: Mefobills
  178. annamaria says:

    Purim is coming. American Jews are longing for genocide of current Amalek.

    “Putin must be taken out,” says Jewish Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines.

    Jews are taught genocidal habits from infancy when Jewish elders give Jewish children toy nooses and cookies in the form of a human ear during Purim. This “most joyful” Jewish celebration is about the genocide of Persians by their obnoxious Jewish guests.

    Haines was born in New York City… Haines’ mother was Jewish

    It seems that her parents failed to teach heinous Avril Haines about the sanctity of life. Also, did her Jewish mom really want to see her daughter become a protector and supporter of neo-Nazis in Ukraine?

  179. Athena says:


  180. haha says:

    Thanks for posting this FANTASTIC Scott Ritter interview. Some more please!

    • Thanks: JWalters
  181. Towey says:

    Totally lost any credibility with that sentence. I will never read another article written by him.

  182. Towey says:

    Sick of this only 5. Reactions allowed. Now I have to write Thanks!

  183. Athena says:

    Video below

    Since 2014, US-NATO has bombed and prepared a civil war in Ukraine.

    Blocus to prevent delivery of materials in hospital

    Government bombed the population

    Interdiction to speak in Russian

    Peoples burned alive

    All this for the purpose of creating a civil war

    SEGREGATION: Peoples in the East: children prevented from going to shool or kindergarten, people must remain in their basements, people left in insecurity by denying them the right to work or to have their pension, these peoples no longer considered to be part of the Ukrainian people, 1.5 million of the Donbas population must be exterminated

    Every week: Bombs or rockets fired on population

    Zero respect of MINSK agreements

    NOW: Horrific situation peoples dying,

    why do people go participate in this horror? They don’t know what war is people who go participate

    Sanctions destroy civilians

    De-escalate by always keeping contact and through ceasefires

    Peoples disinformed or don’t understand, will when (if) war extends to France

  184. @al gore rhythms

    No-it just requires the Western MSM scum and trolls like you to just deny the existence, attested for YEARS, of the biowarfare labs.

  185. Richard B says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    Alzo, intimate connections between the nominal right-wing of organized Jewry, that is, Zionists, and hardRight anti-Jews are nothing new.


    As the saying goes, The best way to control the opposition is to lead it.

    • Troll: Fr. John
  186. Fr. John says:
    @Chris Moore

    I was going to wonder if ANYONE on this site, was willing to point out the EXACT PARALLELS of the TALMUDIC JEWS, and their current, world-wide DOCTRINES OF JEWISH SUPREMACISM.

    Because all this ‘wailing’ about ‘eeeeevil not-sees’ is utterly meaningless, when there are JEWISH NAZIS helping the stupid ‘goyim’ of Ukraine do the very thing, they do EVERY SINGLE DAY.

    Worldwide Jewry is our GREATEST ENEMY, not these Ukrainians.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @JWalters
  187. Trinity says:

    Seems like the neutered clown is willfully ignorant. Maybe he’s auditioning for a gig at fox news.

  188. @annamaria

    Don’t forget Passover. ALL the first-born, from babes to dotards, including animals, murdered by the Jews’ psychopathic ‘God’ (in fact, themselves) and they celebrate it every year. I believe one of the seder ‘prayers’ refers to the goyim ‘rising up to oppose us’, in every generation. It must have some effect on some Jews, in breeding fear and hatred of the goyim.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  189. Biff K says:
    @Biff K


    (I’m 10X more homo than any of them, for 10X as long, but you’d never know.) And I’m only telling you this because you asked and you don’t know me.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  190. The United States has been arming and training far-right militants that are the ideological descendants of Nazi war criminals that were directly involved in the mass-extermination of Jews, Slavs and Gypsies during the Second World War.

    Mike Whitney, go take your meds. Just like your sponsor Putin you are a very sick man.

  191. annamaria says:

    The zionized US ideology in Ukraine:

    Outright Nazis. They took millions of civilians hostage in cities without humanitarian corridors, drove terrified people into basements and subway stations. Poisoning people with lies about “Russian atrocities”, mass shootings, executions, violence, carpet bombing. They place civilians with machine guns near strategic command and control facilities. As in Kiev at the SBU building, closely adjacent to the St Sofia Cathedral.

    Zelensky’s curators and Bandera battalions are staging a humanitarian catastrophe, leaving the towns and villages of Donbass and blowing up everything: bridges, substations, pumping stations. Remember the liberation of Ukraine and 1945, the agony of the Third Reich. The quote of the demoniac, issued in the orders on the destruction of the entire infrastructure of Germany: “if the war is lost, it absolutely does not matter that the people will die.”.

    Today, it is the demoniac ideology of Ziocons, whose sadism has been devastating Ukraine and whose indecency is on display at all levels of governance in the Empire of Lies.

  192. annamaria says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Jews poison their children’s minds with hatred and genocidal intentions. This is tragic for all.

  193. So many Ukies in my hometown in Ontario they had their own hockey team! They were shit though, never wanted to go in the corners for the puck! Been pushing and asking about Freeland for years now, even met her two years ago at a highschool reunion fundraiser for an MP, when I broached the subject about Freelands Nazi grand dad he laughed and tin foil hatted me, but all my high school buddies have, and yet as with most CT disciples I am at least a 9/10 times right! Imagine her nerve even posing just last week with the Ukie Nazi black and red banner in front of Toronto City Hall, In broad daylight with about 40 supporters in the pic. Then when someone asked why this flag was in the pic, she photo shopped hers out of the pic, but there was still two other redblack banners visible. And she is Deputy PM and the Minister of a Finance who shut down the truckers bank accounts and stole all the money. We had a special commission hastily assembled last week and our top Intelligence guy said To our Parliament committee there was no legal grounds or even a reason for Trudope and Freeman doing any of it, no law was broken to allow them to use the Emerg act , they were wrong on all aspects of the emerg measures, and still the accounts are frozen and the two leaders of the truckers protest are in jail with no bail allowed.

    Even our Supreme court says they “ Know” the two leaders, Pat King and Tamara Lynch, will re offend! Even though our committee Was told there was no offense, he said and I quote” their only mistake was thinking they lived in a democracy, where they were allowed to peacefully protest” Bizzaro Kafka world, PK Dickensian!

    How the Jews in Canada allow this is mind blowing!! Everyone knows about her Nazi connections now, and still nothing done at all, we have Bandera Nazis everywhere in our civil service, and western Universities especially.

    The Gehlen Nazi network and the early CIA sent the Ukie Nazions to the western Canadian provinces to blend in because many there were Ukies from the 1890’s -1930’s already there. These people , who settled on govt land that they would own if they had a harvest within three years time, and were living in actual sod house dwellings, were hardy farmers who broke the land for our wheat fields.

    Wonderful hard working Canadians, I know many of their descendants. But I have no doubt there are many Bandera Ukies born here in Toronto, fighting over there, same ones from St Josaphats who never went for the puck battles. I wonder what they think of taking on real Russian troops, as opposed to shelling babushkas in Donbass for the past 8 years! Naz Drovia🇨🇦

    • Replies: @ariadna
    , @Athena
  194. Alrenous says: • Website

    If you had read the link you would already know I am going to say: making a distinction between national Fascism and international Fascism is not relevant. Especially since national Fascism is clearly imperialist. International Fascism seeks to conquer the world, bringing all countries under Fascism. National Fascism seeks to conquer the world, bringing all countries under Fascism.

    The latter has already happened. Or the former. Hard to tell.

    Cope and seethe, NPC.

    • Replies: @Towey
  195. Noble47 says:

    The truly scary part about this discussion comes right after this clip. Nuland adds that if there is a bio-weapon attack, it will be the Russians who do it.

    What a perfect set up for a false-flag attack with a bio-weapon, which will then be blamed on Moscow.

    These people won’t be satisfied until they start WWIII.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan, annamaria
    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  196. Y’all need to get over the Nazi thing and Azov. They aren’t “Nazi” except in Putin’s fertile KGB trained imagination. I get why Putin would hate Bandera. Bandera was a Ukrainian nationalist and he was opportunistic as to the source of help. Bandera was so effective, the Soviets hunted him down for 10 years after the war and killed him Paris.

    If you want to rid the world of Fascists, start in Moscow. Putin and his inner circles are complete fascists.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
  197. @Noble47

    The small hats have an INSANE hatred for Russia and for Putin and for Orthodox Christianity.

    They can’t stand the fact that Putin frowns on trannies and buttfucking.

    The nose believes very strongly that anal sex is the cement that holds society together.

  198. Towey says:

    There is no such thing as international fascism. It is communism,.

    • Replies: @Alrenous
  199. Towey says:
    @Arthur MacBride

    Thank you! I have exceeded my allowance again. Very frustrating and very childish way to be treated.

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  200. denk says:
    @Joe Wong

    Its been the white ganged up on the rest of world since the days of EIGHT nations alliance, with a special loathing reserved for the chinaman.

    I was wondering , why blue ?
    Then it dawn on me, those are blue blooded uber mensch, the aristocratic class.

    NOt all whites are born equal tho.
    Notice that most anti war activists, anti-imperialists are Irish, Scots, or Welsh.
    Imagine, the entire west boast a grand total of exactly TWO pol with balls…Mick Wallace and Clare Daly !

    [[[five liars]]] are the most malicious, but FUKUSA are real hardcore
    [They dont like that F word and concocted that awful AUKUS]
    Notice that Trudeau led Canada and Ardern led NZ dont make the grade !

    • Replies: @acementhead
  201. ariadna says:

    “How the Jews in Canada allow this is mind blowing!! Everyone knows about her Nazi connections now, and still nothing done at all, we have Bandera Nazis everywhere in our civil service, and western Universities especially.”

    Maybe the reason is that the Canadian Jews (like the Ukrainian Jews) know that the “nazis” in question are just tools, thugs in costumes and with flags of their own design, whom they are maintaining as attack dogs.

  202. @Dumbo

    This guy (Richard Spencer) was *always* an obvious plant.

    If he were black, he’d been an eggplant.

  203. TKK says:
    @Old and Grumpy

    The Under Secretary of State just told a sitting Senator that there are unsecured bio- weapon lab- vials of Ebola- in Ukraine as the Russians are “invading” and he did not ask one follow up question in alarm, logistics or concern.

    Instead, he said, with fake grave concern, a soft ball so soft it is Charmin: And do you have have any doubts that the Russians…

    And she sailed it right back.

    America makes me physically sick. Actually nauseated. I may have to just go dark on all current events.

    The most perfectly timed “war” in the history of America is too much for me to accept, especially it seems the whole West is buying it, except a few like minded souls.

    • Agree: Towey
  204. Jewish Power gone nuts because no one calls out on it as crazy Jewish Power.


    I pledge to the ‘fag’ of the…

  205. Von Rho says:

    Let me understand. You mean that:
    1) The Germans brought in German experts to prove that they are not criminals, but the Soviets. Try to look for recent studies on the topic.
    2) Soviet butchers were mostly Jewish. No they were not. Dzerzinsky, director of the Tcheka, for example, was a Polish Roman Catholic nobleman (like Brzezinski).

    • Troll: Petermx, ariadna
  206. Alrenous says: • Website

    Communism just is a kind of Fascism. Or Fascism is a kind of Communism, depending on how you want to slice it. So is Democracy. Or Republic, if you want to be pedantic. Plato a rather obvious commie to anyone who reads his book.
    It’s all far left. More precisely, far-far-far-left. (Analogous to north-north-west.) The epitome of irresponsible government. It all runs out of other people’s money if it doesn’t lose a war first.

    Full Communism is merely far-far-far-far-left, and then everyone starves to death. E.g. Ukraine, coincidentally enough. E.g. Szechuan province.

  207. Alrenous says: • Website
    @Old and Grumpy

    “Real Nazism has never been tried (again)!”

    Meanwhile there’s photos of Zelenskyy posing with a hakenkreuz.

    Of course it rather punctures the narrative when a Gyew acts this dumb…
    Can you imagine getting beat up by such a loser? Ouch. Can’t fight and can’t think.

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  208. @Mefobills

    There was probably never good faith on the part of western globo homo to not advance east.

    You deployed highly flawed logic to pretend, retrospectively, that people had perfect foresight about circumstances that would occur years later. Nobody at the 2+4 negotiations in 1990 anticipated the collapse of the USSR and the independence of countries under their military occupation. There are no NATO bases in East Germany, per Baker’ understanding, so the claim that he broke a “promise” is false. Your use of the word “probably” clearly indicates your musings are all conjectural – wishful thinking.

    The Baltic states that were formerly in the USSR joined NATO in 2004. As I have explained recently (March 7, 2022 at 3:33 pm GMT), Russia has itself to blame for having created the conditions that compelled these states (and others) to join that alliance.

    And regarding your imaginary NATO hyper-sonic missiles based in Ukraine, you have proven neither premises. Also, the initial message in this thread that I first responded to essentially advocated a possible nuclear exchange because destroying a defensive radar and missile installation in Romania would be a clear announcement by Russia of a severe pending missile attack.

    Instead of acknowledging and accepting the facts you go on these Pilpul & Jew rants and thus highlight your lack of perception and sophistication.

    • Troll: ariadna, Swaytonious
    • Replies: @Mefobills
  209. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    From here in the Netherlands, i visit the UR-site several times a day. I’ve never seen it in a down-situation yet. Only when there is something wrong with the internet connection as a whole, which would inflict the contact with all sites on it. That happens rarely, because the Netherlands has a dense network of fast internet services with a good bandwidth. Microsoft, Google and other big players have several data centers here, because Dutch internet is regarded as a reliable hub and a good spider’s web center from which to reach large parts of Europe. We also have a rather relaxed tax regime for foreign investors and thus a good settling climate.

  210. @Mefobills

    There was no written agreement but there is written evidence that the West did promise that NATO won’t expand. See here for instance:

    • Thanks: Mefobills
  211. meamjojo says:

    Jewish Ukraine Fights Nazi Russia
    The absurdities of this historical moment, as embodied by President Zelensky, point us to the deeper truths of Ukraine’s messy identity, which is proving to be a more powerful construction than Putin’s authoritarian nostalgia
    by Vladislav Davidzon
    March 04, 2022

    “It’s very serious, it’s not a movie,” Volodymyr Zelensky told CNN from deep inside his military command-and-control bunker in Kyiv. “I’m not iconic, I think Ukraine is iconic.” This was a remarkable statement for a wartime president to have to make—especially one who ascended to the presidency from inside of the television screen, on the satire Servant of the People, having played an ordinary man who became president, and a president who saved Ukraine. At least half of the real-life Zelensky’s statement was also objectively false. He is now indeed an icon. His emergence as the most valorous, poised, and fearless wartime president of recent Western history is a truly bizarre manifestation of the randomness of history. War is a strange business—some people rise to the occasion and become heroes, while others shrivel.

    When Vladimir Putin launched this war of aggression and choice, he had expected a quick collapse of the Ukrainian armed forces, and that the young, unserious Zelensky would either capitulate or flee. But Zelensky has not only stood his ground under pressure—he has also rallied the Ukrainian nation, whose existence he is helping solidify even as Putin seeks to destroy it, in a totally unpredictable manner. It is now functionally impossible for the Russian army to deliver the “decapitating” strike that Putin had ordered against the government without turning Zelensky into a world historical martyr, and an independent Ukraine into an immortal idea.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @ariadna
    , @Wokechoke
  212. @Alrenous

    Fuck the trifles. It does not matter what colour the shirts are, whether people are marching with torches or candles, or whether their youth indoctrination org is called HJ or Komsomol or whatever.
    Left-wing ideology emphasises the rights of the collective, right-wing ideology emphasises the rights of the individual; hence the left are, in ascending order, social democrats (= American liberals), socialists and ultimately the totalitarians which comprise nazis, Trotzkists, Stalinists, Maoists, Polpotists and dunno, their alleged distinctions just serving as flags for the infighting between the various power-greedy leadership cliques. The right, by contrast, are, in ascending order, European liberals (= American conservatives), libertarians, and anarchists (for some 75 years, in the German parliament the rightmost seats were where the FDP delegates sat). Totalitarians deny the right of the individual to life, anarchists deny the existence of (and need for) society. The National _Socialists_ just had the common sense not to indulge in socialist destruction of the economy while arming for a war – which was later used, in an amazing interpretative sleight-of-hand, to brand them as “right-wing”, which they never were.
    Hence I see no contradiction between kippacracy and fascism in Ukraine (or anywhere else). All the Oriental hate cults are intrinsically totalitarian. Muslims, revered by some in this forum, and Yesids, elated by victimhood, are not a whit better.

    • Replies: @Alrenous
  213. Yo Mikey boy, no matter how hard you scream NAZI, your granddaddy and daddy are still pieces of subhuman ZOGbot little shits who fought on the side of communism, KIKES, faggots and other reprobates and demon worshippers!

    NSDAP Germany at the end would always be the country that fought the kikes and the commies!

    Stay mad and hell-bound!

  214. @Carlton Meyer

    Oh yes, have another Carlton:
    The poor, innocent, peaceful “Ukraine Jewish president” would have peace yesterday if the bad Nazis would not threaten his life. Keep on meyering your Jewnighted BS.

    Your ZionLendSki is murdering Ukrainians wanting to come to terms with Russia. Parallel he is handing out Poolish AKs to housewives & children and stirring them up against their own liberation from scum like yourself.

    If you want to know what is going to happen to your Jewish (transl. criminal) regime over Ukraine, have a look how the Chechen terrorists ended.

  215. @Alrenous

    I agree with the majority of this comment. However honestly I could give a shit about Ukraine or their people. My favorite wars are African and involve lots of forced cannibalism and fistulas and Ukraine just cannot rouse my attention. I too don’t give a shit about strangers and mostly just see them for my amusement. That is a unpardonable sin in 2022 where we are threatened to have our life destroyed if we don’t pretend to care about every stranger real or fictitious on earth.

    Even ghosts of Kiev (not keev moron politicians who have sign language idiots in the corner of the screen) and snake islands are not enough to thrill me. What I do know is that the USA is backing Ukraine and that means that I should support Russia just on principal. The USA is all evil all the time and nothing they do has been good for years.

    • Replies: @Francis Miville
  216. @Ukraine Tiger

    “Nazi” is a Jewish expletive for selfconscious, light, white and bright Aryan and originated from their curse and hatred against the light, white and bright Christ, the Nazarean from Nazareth; an Aryan settlement.
    Real Nazi = Christ(consciousness).

    • Thanks: Petermx
  217. El'geherg says:

    Huh, this makes me a lot more sympathetic toward Ukraine if true. Of course it is hysterical hyperbole but it made for amusing reading.

  218. @Towey

    Most welcome, Towey.
    Others did the work, I merely pointed Whitney to what they said.

    I have to say that “History Channel” Whitney has lost credibility with me.
    His essay is just msm zioprop.
    I thought he had the rep of a serious analyst. This is junk, nothing more.

  219. annamaria says:

    If you insist, a repost:

    Some musing on the moral facet of the war in Ukraine, though the proper name of this war is “Judea Declared War on Russia.”

    Three main protagonists had met in Kiev in 2014: John McCain, Nuland-Kagan, Ukrainian Nazis
    1. Tokyo Rose John McCain was a wealthy playboy, whose dad, American admiral John S. McCain Sr. had covered for Israel when Israel attacked and murdered sailors on USSLiberty.

    2. Nuland-Kagan is a regular Zionist with Talmudic mentality (“what is good for Jews”), which made it easy for her to dismiss the trifles of Arlington Memorial (418,500 Americans died in a fight against Nazism) and to expose the Holobiz for what it has been for decades – a successful profiteering schema. The shamelessness of Jews is legendary, and they already are pushing aggressive apologias for Jewish-Nazi collaboration in Ukraine. In 2022, Nuland-Kagan went to Moscow to warn Putin that Russia will be ruined economically. That was rich from a progeny of Jewish Trotskyists who almost destroyed Russia a hundred years ago by murdering en masse her officer corps, clergy, professional class, and exterminating all independent-minded people.

    3. The Ukrainian self-proclaimed Nazis were nurtured by Canadian Banderites, the progeny of SS 1st Galicia death squad, and by the Jewish Lobby. Before meeting McCain and Nuland-Kagan in 2014, the Nazi leaders – the so-called “White Fuhrers” — used to profess ‘“Our nation’s historical mission at this critical juncture is to lead the global White Race in its final crusade for its survival. A crusade against the Semite-led Untermenschen.” After the meeting (perhaps, it was a profitable enterprise) the White Fuhrers have become the Semite-led Untermenschen.

    The never-decent McCain should have simply invited the Nazis for a rave party on the graves of the Arlington Memorial. He was a traitor from a family of traitors. The geriatric and zionzied US Congress of profiteers would have joined the party.

    Nuland-Kagan is a Bolshevik parasite set up to destroy western civilization. Her Talmudic mentality is not just psychopathic – it is devoid of the notions of decency, shame, honor, and mercy. The Jewish genocidists (from infancy- see the Purim monstrosity) will not stop in their search for Amalek.

    Purim is coming – a celebration of the genocide of Persians. Jewish children will be handed toy nooses and cookies in the form of a human ear. Many years ago, the Persians (Iranians) let the Jewish guests become too powerful, and, eventually, the Jewish thirst for power and deception resulted in the slaughter of 75 thousand Persians of all ages by Jews (according to the book of Esther). Today, Russia is their Amalek. Next is the US.

    As for the hapless Ukrainian and Canadian Banderites, they have entered history as the Semite-led Untermenschen. No glory for them.

    The Jewish idiot in charge:
    Volodymyr Zelensky is dancing in heels.”

    You obviously do not have children, which is a good thing.

    • Troll: meamjojo
  220. ariadna says:

    Oh, yes, give me Tablet, please… as good as wiki for the judeo-zionist angle. I find it amusing how all of you claim to know exactly what Putin thought, or “expected,” and how surprised and disappointed he is by his “lack of progress.” And who better than Pandora Papers Zelinsky to “solidify the Ukrainian nation” robbed blind by the vultures? No problem selling him as a “world historical martyr.” We are making them all the time and also exporting them (think our drug addict felon sainted by BLM George Floyd).

  221. Anonymous[140] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeff Davis

    Good point.
    It always leads to Israel:


    Notice how the Israel first traitors in the US body politic want the war, the Kiev rabbi says Jews are going to fight against Putin, and Israel then says they will bring the Ukraine Jews to Israel if there is war. The zionist terrorists are creating a war where only non-Jews will die.

    “The Jewish Empire of Satan, led by Israel and consisting of all Anglo and NATO countries, vassals, and possessions, very badly wants to start a war in Eastern Europe to kill as many white people as possible.” – Anon

  222. Alrenous says: • Website
    @Gaylord of the German Gaylands

    More or less what I’m getting at, yeah.

    Caring about “rights” of the individual is still a leftism, though. Agree: specifically a Christianism. Proper rightism is about responsibility: you pay for your own stuff, nobody can force you to pay for their stuff. If you want to be entitled to something, pay for / seize it yourself.

    Secure your shit. If it’s secure, it doesn’t matter who else thinks you have a “right” to it. If it’s not secure, then it again doesn’t matter who else thinks you have “right” to it, because it won’t still be there if you look away and look back.

    Naturally someone will try the “collectivism” crap on you. Be ready and willing to shoot them in lieu of trying to argue about it. St. Rittens knew. All of a sudden they’ll have an attack of civility…

    • Replies: @Swaytonious
  223. Mefobills says:

    Instead of acknowledging and accepting the facts you go on these Pilpul & Jew rants and thus highlight your lack of perception and sophistication

    You are a classic Jerusalemite type. You probably lack empathy and have sociopathic tendencies.

    You are uninterested in getting at the truth, and are using reverse projection techniques.

    The Jew cries out as he strikes you.

    Russia laid out all of their claims in the recent security requests given to the West, that you probably know nothing about.

    One of the claims was the indivisibility of security that the West agreed to. That means NATO cannot forever expand, because it makes Russia less secure.

    The answer to the security requests from Putin, was an increase in Shelling in the Donbass, and some discussion about Ukraine acquiring Nukes.

    Then there is this that really got Russia’s panties in a wad, which of course you could give a damn about, because you are a PilPul master.

    Russia was worried about Ukraine joining NATO, and rightly so given the above. Russia was worried about the West developing hypersonics and putting NATO launchers on the border.

    Putin has even said it is only a matter of time before the west develops hypersonic and catches up with them (Russia).

    You are having trouble following this argument logic because you are very Jewish.

    Hitler noticed this tendency among the Jews in Berlin, when he debated them. He (Hitler) would make very good arguments that no rational (Athenian) person could argue with. But, the next day, the Jew would be back, pushing the same points, as if the previous day did not exist.

    Basically at this point, your opinion doesn’t mean shit. Russia has already invaded Ukraine, and there are new facts on the ground. History will show that Russia was in the right, and the invasion is JUST WAR DOCTRINE.

    JUST WAR DOCTRINE is a Christian Concept (which you probably are unable to understand given your Jewish orientation), where a future conflagration is avoided by war now.

    Already in Ukraine, Russians are finding biological labs, where predators from the West were doing illegal biological research.

    The West has become mammonites and Jewish, which is why you defend it. I’m American, and am disgusted by your type and the lack of empathy and morality.

  224. @aldasfail770

    The spelling Kyiv they impose is just there to take us for idiots. In Russian and other Slavic languages e and i tend when unstressed to converge towards an intermediate sound between e (as in yet) and i (as in machine) like i in bit, like they do in many American English varieties that cannot distinguish between pin and pen. Same thing for o and a : when unstressed they merge into some intermediate sound like aw or u in but or a in Vienna, like in many varieties of American English that cannot distinguish between volume and valume. It is also there to destroy Russia as an identity in the Westerners’ consciousness : Kiev was always renowned as the first founding capital city of the Russian Empire. That has to be erased. Kiev remained after having deposed by other political capitals the spiritual capital of Russian orthodoxy : that has to be erased : it has to become the gay capital of Russia.

    Being a homosexual never prevented nor a general nor a soldier to win a war. But standing for alternate sexual lifestyles as a spiritual value in itself to be imposed as a mark of one’s conquering civilization was always conducive to defeat. The war of Ukraine cannot be won by the Western camp. The globalists are sending their own troops to premeditated defeat. The West could win the cold war in Eastern Europe because it then stood locally for the camp that sought to go back to traditional morality, loosely backed by American Moral majority. Now they are on a planned course to defeat.

    I see you all here coming to tear each other’s hair as to whether the Ukies are authentic Nazis or not, which many think they cannot be since Ukraine has declared itself a Jewish entity. This is a deliberate exercise in cognitive dissonance, a direct attack on logic itself : you have to accuse any White or not so white worker who opposes excessive immigration of Nazism while supporting people in Kiev who fly real Nazi ensigns and plan to kill the same people as the Nazis did, who assume only the dark side of the movement. Cognitive dissonance is most useful to install a totalitarian regime, but such a regime cannot win wars, even fake ones, unless it abandons it.

  225. Mefobills says:

    Here is more on the biological labs, which my very Jewish friend

    will probably use PilPul and deny. Please enjoy his comment history to see what a Jerusalemite looks like.

    It is cookies Nudelman Kagan, the fat Jewess neocon behind the State Department Maidan Coup of 2014, talking to the gay and compromised NeoCon, Rubio.

    Together, they are laying the groundwork for plausible deniability.

    These people are ghouls, and they don’t like it when we notice them:

  226. Sparkon says:

    Meanwhile there’s photos of Zelenskyy posing with a hakenkreuz.

    As I pointed out early yesterday under Philip Giraldi’s article,
    that photo of Zelenskyy holding up the jersey with a swastika is fake.

    Image: Snopes dot com

    All the ruckus about some Ukrainians dressing up in flamboyant uniforms illustrates how conditioned most of the Western world is to react to name-calling and magic symbols just like Pavlov’s dog.

    William Neptune, Passamaquoddy chief, 1920

    The iconography of the Slavic Native Faith or Rodnovery movement contains various swatiska-like symbols, but of course the swastika itself is an ancient symbol that has appeared in many cultures, as the photo of Chief Neptune illustrates.

    • Replies: @Alrenous
  227. Che Guava says:


    I have your article on a tabbed page. Am looking forward to reading it once I post this.

    Four points on Mike W’s article.

    1. If, as Putin, Shoygu, and other officials have said, there is no intention of occupation, who are these terrorists going to fight? A more legitimate govt. than the post-Maidan ones?

    2. Pres. Putin has, some time ago, stated his support for a federation of regions as the polity of the Ukraine. If it is to continue as a state, that seems the way.

    More recently, I read that he said he wants the place broken up, have no idea if it was true or not, but Polish irredentists would, I am sure, be happy to have Galicia. As that was the name of the Waffen SS division raised in the Ukraine, Azov and co. should also be pleased by such a solution.

    3. Although the werewolf idea failed in most of western Europe, it did last for eight or so years in the Ukraine and Estonia. I am astonished by the success of the latter, it is a small country.

    The only way to make such a thing happen in the Ukraine of now is for U.S., NATO, and EU goons and their Jewish masters, and the Ukraine’s Jewish bad comedian pres. to allow any kind of diplomatic and political solution. I don’t think that will last very long, economic effects too bad, but the Zionist masters and their slaves may do all they can to prevent a fair settlement. Such has happened many times before.

    4. Mike has joked about the anyone we don’t like is Hitler phenom. among Western left morons many times.

    It is amusing in a bad way to see him join in. Hitler’s govt. did a far better job of rescuing Germany from a far worse state than Franklin Rosenfeldt in the U.S.A. Likewise, from most evidence, not too interested in war unless pushed.

    Sure, Russians (not Jews) were the biggest victims, but how many of the soldiers were shot from behind by machine gun nests run by Jewish political commissars? Stalin only started to move against them after Stalingrad, maybe he was hearing too many reports of incipient rebellion and resentment. In any case, while they were in the driving seat, Jewish Bolsheviks did far more damage and killing in the U.S.S.R. than the National Socialists ever did.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  228. Che Guava says:
    @Che Guava

    Accidentally hitting post instead of preview,
    of course, one line should have ‘refuse to’, but it was timeout before I could correct it.

  229. Wokechoke says:

    Maruipol is on the edge of falling. I wonder how many strangers are going to be scooped up in the surrender.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  230. Wokechoke says:
    @al gore rhythms

    I’ll give it a go. Russia struck three years too early. 2025 was the intended starting point. By then the Ukrianians would have hit Russian tanks with radiological bombs and chemical and biological retaliation.

    There’s an argument that all the players in ww2 knew a nuclear bomb was about to be made real. The entire war a rush to settle it all before one or another developed the bomb and won anyway.

  231. Che Guava says:

    I have another idea, Russian and other U.S.S.R. soldiers had already begun to murder the Jewish commissars in their, first, machine-gun nests, later, the polit. Jews with only pistols later, no more machine-gun nests, I cannot imagine a world where many red army didn’t kill some Jewish political commissar cowards.

  232. Anon[305] • Disclaimer says:

    Mike Whitney, like Glenn Greenwald, et al., remind us they work first for “Israel First” and White Elimination, traitors within the gates everywhere. Whites are most in the way of what is coveted by the JWO. The demonized word “Nazi” – propaganda live ongoing – applies to Jews and their projections of evil onto goyim. They’ve been at this for a long time and are now famous as Master of Deception. “Israel works all the ropes” (Israel Shamir).

    • Agree: Towey
  233. @Mefobills

    Russia was worried about Ukraine joining NATO…

    Yawn; that was merely a phony pretext Putin presented to NATO in his hypocritical blackmail attempt last December. In that particular case “security needs” was just a euphemism for “submit to us“. I responded to this specific question briefly earlier this week (March 8, 2022 at 4:41 am GMT):

    He (Hitler) would make very good arguments that no rational (Athenian) person could argue with.

    The analogy you presented here is not applicable to our exchange in this thread because you have not made any arguments but only repeated shallow propaganda which I have proven to be factually invalid. (Of course you were not able to back up your claims.) Your response was then to play the drama queen and stage a tantrum by calling me a “Jew“.

    JUST WAR DOCTRINE is a Christian Concept…

    You referred to a philosophical or theological concept from the fifth century. Even according to contemporary Catholic interpretation, none of their criteria for “just war” have been met. If Putin thought there were any legal validity to this ancient construct, I imagine he would have invoked it, but instead he provided the public delusional bullshit..

  234. Alrenous says: • Website

    Image: Snopes dot com

    Opposite-day website says it’s fake?

    The neo-nazi Gyews never cease to amuse me.

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  235. @Wokechoke

    I think Russia may have to repeat its previous Georgia exercise but this time take the whole country. It seems Georgia didn’t learn anything from getting a bloody nose last time and has been operating US military biowarfare labs since the war in 2008 as well as applying to join the EU.

    That is also why I think Russia must take the Ukraine so as to prevent having to fight once again because they won’t give up being hostile.

  236. @Mefobills

    Hitler noticed this tendency among the Jews in Berlin, when he debated them.

    You are incorrect about the details. You must be alluding to a passage in Mein Kampf, in which he described Jews taking on different positions. He was most likely describing his experience in Vienna, which he mentioned a few sentences before. The Google translation from the original text is as follows:

    If, after hours of persuasion, I was convinced that this time I had finally broken the ice or cleared up some nonsense, and I was really happy about the success, then, to my misery, I had to start all over again the next day; it had all been for nothing.

    Original text:
    Wenn ich nach stundenlangem Zureden schon überzeugt war, dieses Mal endlich das Eis gebrochen oder einen Unsinn aufgeklärt zu haben und mich schon des Erfolges herzlich freute, dann mußte ich zu meinem Jammer am nächsten Tage wieder von vorne beginnen; es war alles umsonst gewesen.

    The manner in which you paraphrased this passage was exaggerated. Actually the general situation is the reverse of what you described. I thought that by having presented the facts and clarified the issue, after you had insisted on spreading nonsense, the issue was resolved. Yet the next day you came out with more nonsense, as if my effort had been for nothing. So it was actually you, who has been acting like a hysterical Jew – for all readers to verify.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  237. Athena says:

    The ultimate goal of the CIA-generated insurgency is to destroy the Russian economy, isolate the Russian leadership, and send home as many Russian boys in body-bags as possible in order to affect a regime change that will replace arch-rival Putin with a compliant stooge like Ukrainian Puppet Zelensky.

    Canada’s NATO and anti-Putin cheerleader, Mrs Chrystia Chomiak Freeland:

    “Whether it is in Ukraine, or elsewhere, one day we will have to stop him [Putin] .”

    ”If by “we” Freeland meant NATO, and if by “will have to stop him,” she meant by war, then Canada ‑ and the world at large ‑ may be in very serious trouble. “If Canadian foreign policy toward the Russian Federation is to be based on Freeland’s mendacious distortions and misapprehensions of Russia and Putin,” said historian Michael Jabara Carley, “then Canada-Russian relations are headed to new lows.”

    She wants to indoctrinate children (see the following video). She says NATO is about ”protecting democracy”, ie protecting Ukrainians against Russia. She says NATO must be taught at home and children be warned early about the danger represented by Russia:

  238. @Chris Moore

    In the Main Cathedral of the Russian Armed Forces, there is a huge mural with iosef “son of jews” stalin, his fake generals and other commies together with Jesus Christ and Mother Mary.

    Russia is hugely dependent on the Holohoax and ww2 myth for a national identity. I can’t find the press conference, but Putin basically said at one point that there are too many babushka and old vatniks left, and removing lenin stinking carcass is too much for the peasants’ feeble mind.

    I believe the modern Chinese and Russians are God’s scourge to destroy the (((west))). We should pray for God’s mercy and repent. There is no “savior of the huwhite race”, this much is clear after (((trump))).

  239. Mefobills says:

    Others are noticing your autism, or retardation or whatever it is you have going on. Getting flagged as a troll is not a trophy.

    JWalters posted a Scott Ritter video, which you should watch:

    I am sketching the big picture, and you always PilPul on nits and details. This technique of yours freezes time and place, and forces out-of-context logic. The intent is to deflect and deceive, not get at the truth.

    I was paraphrasing Hitler. You made a mountain out of a molehill, but my point still remains. Hitler was disgusted, the same as me.

    I had to start all over again. In other words, Hitler had to make his argument again and again. I’ve tried multiple angles to get through to you, but you lack something – autism? You cannot agree to basic facts, facts which are becoming well known.

    Watch the video, maybe Scott can get the Ukraine/Russia situation through your thick skull. The Russians were legitimately aggrieved about the possibility of NATO launchers on their borders. They were legitimately aggrieved about NATO, and USA inability to make and keep agreements.

    Your position basically boils down to Russia = Bad; Russia has no legitimate grievances. In your worldview maybe, but try hard to step outside of your box.

  240. The Nazis in Ukraine are gonna cop it big time! I’m surprised how much enthusiasm there is in the West to support them considering the West bases its “values” on anti-Nazism and its defeat of Hitler.

  241. Anon[305] • Disclaimer says:
    @Arthur MacBride

    Arthur MacBride – Thank you. Your comments are spot on, but not all humans have a sense of honor or care about credibility, not all are sane or even open to reason that isn’t “profitable”. Psychos are psychos, parasites are parasites. A single psycho may end up in a facility for the criminally insane but a Tribe of them may consider itself entitled, collectively and individually. Psychos don’t care about “credibility” as long as they’re getting away with murder. Some things never change for the better.

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  242. Druid55 says:

    Though I dislike the Ziocons and dislike war, the Serbs were involved in at least ethnic cleansing and possibly genocide, so the had to be stopped and punished!

  243. @Mefobills

    Unlikely he will or can step outside his box, Mefo.
    What you experience and describe has been seen before —

    The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn’t help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn’t help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn’t remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.

    A. Hitler; Mein Kampf ch 2 “Years of Study and Suffering in Vienna.”

    • Thanks: Petermx, Mefobills
    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
    , @Anon
  244. @Anon

    Thank you, what you say is certainly correct and easily observable, Anon.

    However for a social/political analyst to post facile msm “historical” narrative on a site like UR is mystifying. Many posters here are highly qualified in various disciplines, including history. Several posted up excellent detailed correctives for Whitney, others simply expressed disgust at what might be “fear of the Jews” narrative by Whitney.

    I don’t know what it is, maybe the infamous American ignorance of history, maybe fear. But if Whitney or whoever cannot relate truth rather than zio propaganda, then his input is worthless or less than worthless, his credibility as a writer is zero.

    I hope I’m wrong and he will look at those critiques.
    They are very well written and deserve his and others’ attention.

    • Replies: @Swaytonious
  245. Sparkon says:

    s that all you’ve got?

    Attacking the source is always a fallacy, and name-calling is child’s play, so you have presented exactly nothing of substance to support your case.

    Opposite-day website

    What does that even mean?

    Image: Snopes dot com

    It is standard practice, to say little of common courtesy, to provide a credit when posting an image online, a convention few follow here at UR.

    To give you an executive summary, numerous sources have called the Zelenskyy swastika photo fake, and it is as phony as the proverbial \$3 bill.

    So read it and weep. The original, unaltered photograph with jersey #95 was shared June 8, 2021 on his Instagram account by none other than Volodymyr Zelenskyy himself:

    I had already found an article at Reddit about Zelensky being awarded the honorary #95 jersey back in mid-2021 even before I found the article about it at Snopes, or his Instagram post.

    Ukrainian president Zelensky received a new personal uniform of the national team of Ukraine under number 95. 95 reference to the comedian media franchise that he was part of Kvartal 95 . from europe

    Clearly, the 95 on Zelenskyy’s jersey was easily modified in an image editor into the implication-laded swastika, but it’s certainly not the first time people have fallen for cheesy fakes, because you can indeed fool some of the people some of the time…

  246. @Arthur MacBride

    Excuse, please.
    I omitted to include the URL.

    Nb For any interested … Ch 2 has various observations on working men and trade unions; Vol 2 Ch 12 is on this question.

    • Thanks: Mefobills
  247. @Mefobills

    …Scott Ritter video…

    Scott Ritter has occasionally appeared on RT videos for a long time already, for instance at Crosstalk. The video features Lee Camp, who is a host of the RT show Redacted Tonight. These Russian propaganda positions are not new to me. A big talking point that Ritter reiterated was Putin’s speech in 2007 at the Munich Security Conference, in which he purportedly set a “red line” on NATO expansion. As I have pointed out multiple times, that would be in violation of their 1997 Paris treaty with NATO, and other obligations, so it was arrogant of him to have attempted to bully other countries.

    Ritter talked a lot about Russian military tactics and even boasted that the Russians would kill people who had tattoos of any symbols they didn’t like. This would be criminally insane driven by raw hatred. He complained that some in the Ukrainian military were getting training by NATO instructors and wearing similar uniforms, or weapons, so he jumps to the illogical conclusion that they are thus a NATO proxy army. None of what Ritter said adds up to a legitimate rationale for a war of aggression to punish a nation that. refused to be bullied or blackmailed by threats.

    Nothing in the entire article in National Security Archive about the 1990 negotiations with Gorbachev, on the future of Germany, contradict the points I have already made here in multiple threads. The quote by Kohl (“We believe that NATO should not expand the sphere of its activity.” ) was essentially a non-committal opinion pertaining to the circumstances at the time, during which NATO’s sphere of influence could not expand much anyway, except into East Germany (which it refrained from establishing bases in), because the countries to the east were occupied by Soviet troops. To conflate discussions at these meetings, more than three decades later, in order to claim something different, is simply deceptive.

    The reference “Helsinki formula that states choose their own alliances, so Germany could choose NATO” also means that other states, farther east, that gained their independence later, would likewise be entitled to ally with NATO, as would Ukraine, which does not even meet the basic criteria to be a candidate for possible EU membership, just as it is not eligible for NATO membership. Russia’s talking points to justify its recent actions are based on paranoia, bullying, and exaggerations. Putin will probably have to pay dearly for his miscalculations.

  248. Russian military tactics and even boasted that the Russians would kill people who had tattoos of any symbols they didn’t like.

    The Saker wrote pretty much the same

    the Russians have offered humanitarian corridors and promised safety and good treatment to all Ukrainian POWs (Nazis are excluded, as are foreign mercenaries, they will be interrogated and shot).

    So anyone with a Nazi tattoo could face summary execution. Especially if they fall into the hands of the Lugansk and Donetsk People’s militia.

    This would be criminally insane driven by raw hatred.

    What? Execution of criminally insane local and foreign Nazis driven by raw hatred is somehow criminally insane? You want these monsters to be given POW status? Personally I’d prefer them to be dragged through People’s Courts in the Lugansk and Donetsk People’s Republics and all their crimes against humanity and war crimes documented and broadcast to the world before they get the bullet, but then I’m not the one making the decisions.

    • Agree: acementhead
    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  249. @Mefobills

    I’ve tried multiple angles to get through to you, but you lack something – autism? You cannot agree to basic facts, facts which are becoming well known.

    You probably have already noticed that he doesn’t propose anything constructive. He just tries to dismantle any valid view or factual evidence opposing the ZOG narrative, and at same time he avoids any clear defense of ditto ZOG.
    All this done with a lenghty rhetoric. IMO it’s clear he has behind him a group designed to spread doubt and quarrel among people here…

    • Replies: @dogbumbreath
  250. Athena says:

    How the Jews in Canada allow this is mind blowing!!

    FSWC Calls for Investigation After Ukrainian Neo-Nazis Brag About Receiving Training from Canada’s Military

    October 18, 2021

    ”Toronto (October 18, 2021) – Friends of Simon Wiesenthal Center (FSWC) is calling for an investigation by Canada’s Department of National Defence after far-right extremists within the Ukrainian military were found bragging on social media that they received training from the Canadian Armed Forces.”

  251. @denk

    “…special loathing reserved for the chinaman.”

    It is not true that new Zealanders have a “special loathing for the chinaman.” I lived in Mangere Bridge from age 12 to 20, surrounded by Chinese owned market gardens. Our immediate neighbors were Chinese. The New Zealand Chinese were the best people in the world. Their crime rate was zero. I know people now, in Epsom, with Chinese neighbors, they are great people. One Niece of mine is married to full blood Han. He is 100% New Zealander, indistinguishable from white New Zealanders.

    Oh did I mention that two of the three sons of the Chinese neighbors in Mangere became doctors? That was back in early ’60s. No special privilege for them and no ‘tiger mother’, the parents spoke no English.

    According to the CIA World Factbook(which I believe to be accurate) Chinese are third largest racial group(at 5%) in NZ. This will be largely due to immigration in the last 50 years

    • Replies: @denk
  252. JWalters says:
    @Chris Moore

    Bypassing the various labels for the moment (which are confusing to me), I’d agree the American mainstream public needs to learn ASAP that the US media and government have been captured by war profiteering criminals. America is no longer the “good guy” in foreign affairs. Unknown to most Americans, “America” has become the bad guy.

    The criminals behind the curtain are whipping Americans into another emotional frenzy to enable their criminal manufactured war, which is not as it appears, and is very costly to the American people.

    The absurd chaos in American affairs is only understandable when we add to our picture these criminals behind the curtain. They are parasites that have taken over America’s central nervous system – media and politics, and they are killing the host.

    As for labels, how about the stealth “Zionist Empire”?

    • Replies: @Kurt Knispel
    , @HdC
  253. JWalters says:
    @Fr. John

    A convenient collection of data supporting your picture:
    War Profiteer Story

  254. Wokechoke says:

    Hahaha. Good one. Had the reader going until the last sentence.

  255. Rellik88 says:

    National Socialisms was started to combat communism. It was Communist Antifa in Weimar Germany inciting violence. It took brown shirts to stop it. Seeing how the (((people))) successfully installed communism in Russia.

    Add in the fact that Nazis and Communist Russians battled.

    Duh of course Nat Socs hate Russia. I’m not a Nat Soc but American so Hate Russia naturally.

    Whats I really get a top kek about.

    Is Putin claims of going after Nazis, is no better or worse than America going after ISIS.

    Fuck Ukraine, Fuck Russia

    I do hope Russia dumps all the Biden evidence they capture

  256. @Wokechoke

    Thanks for attempting an answer. It’s all highly speculative, although possible. Maybe some answers will emerge on this blog.

    • Replies: @kingokaise
  257. bert33 says:

    With our woke administration and russia’s national history during big two, ever more the reason tp shut down the ukrainian army and start prosecuting people maybe biden should be supporting the russian effort

  258. denk says:

    tucker carlson had many very illustrious VIP on his show.



    Lets provoke the chicom to attack TW, pray for a bloodbath, there’d be our PR bonanza

    JOhn Mearshmeir

    Anyone who flirt with the chicom and you’r dead man

    Recently one of his guest snarl at the camera , frothing at the mouth

    What we need is an army of alfa men who wanna sit on a mountain of Chinaman skulls.

    now There’s a shitload of wn white supremacists at UNz WHO declare their wish to genocide chinaman

    Exhibit A

    Lets start with 500M


    BUt tucker carlson is different, the mofo is the darling of wn and his show is beamed live nightly to the entire nation.

    In aNY normal society, there’d be hue and cry , the guest kicked out and the host censured.

    BUt this is USAss
    Sicko like this get a standing ovation and tucker is the national treasure .

    Then they keep whinning…

    we white man dindunuthin,
    its Israel, its the Jews, its the chinaman



  259. @Commentator Mike

    …crimes against humanity and war crimes documented and broadcast to the world …

    This seems to be an exaggeration. If it had been as you claim, then Russia could have gone to the UN, drawn attention to the issue with documentation, and then made the case to seek authorization in order to assist the Russian population militarily in the eastern Donbas under the R2P doctrine, which was approved by all members in 2005. This would have gotten it much sympathy for its cause. But this war doesn’t really seem to be about this small territory, or else Russia would have just invaded those specific regions being held by the separatists.

    Instead, as Israel, Russia has been acting like a rogue state, for all the world to see. Only deluded fanatics are on Russia’s side now. If there were inherent support within Russia’s population, then the government would not have deemed it necessary to shut down much of the media and threaten journalists with penalties of up to 15 years in prison for not dutifully reporting the government’s propaganda line. The goal is obviously to engage in a large-scale illegal conquest and grab as much land as it can under antiquated motives, using phony pretexts.

  260. Anon[336] • Disclaimer says:
    @Arthur MacBride

    Excellent quote selection, it’s as if Mr. H was describing the personality of most women I have ever met, dated, or married.

    • LOL: Arthur MacBride
  261. denk says:

    There has always been abuse, taunts , even assaults on Chinese in UK, US, OZ, CANADA, NZ due to the anti immigrants issue, the violence skyrockets after the so-called ‘Chinese virus‘ and ‘China is a threat to our security‘ psyop.

    As mentioned before, I notice Kiwis are the most benign among the five eyes family.
    UNfortunately Wellington seem to be arm twisted by big bro into joining the anti china bandwagon as well lately

    Also I appreciate there’r many decent man like you, the trouble is with wn white supremacists , not with whites in general.

  262. @Commentator Mike


    “You’re just a propagandist or a fanatical irrational anti-Russian hater.”

    Both, and quite likely very well paid troll.

  263. WW2 is long gone. There are no Nazis. Anyone who identifies as a “Nazi” doesn’t even know what that means, has no power, and is a victim not an oppressor. Such a fringe minority needs compassion, not extermination.

    Would Putin label all White rights and ethnic Russian rights as “Nazism” and “extremism?” Many celebrate projections that show that 1/3 of Russians will soon be Muslim. But somehow it’s wrong to want more White Slavs. Progress is always defined as fewer Whites.

    The only extremism that should not be tolerated is denying that Russia belongs to ethnic Russians.

  264. @Mefobills

    Although been_there_done_that may well be “sick in the head” or “autistic”, I don’t think he’s stupid or illiterate. Worse, he is fundamentally dishonest, possibly a tribal zealot, paid troll or both, as I’ve learned in responding to several of his recurring posts. He stubbornly clings to his very own unsupported “facts” despite ample evidence proving them false, by me and many others he has baited here with absurd allegations. I found it rather fruitless to debate serious issues with a dishonest egotist, religious zealot, or paid troll.

    On the other hand, although your responses, spot-on and well-supported, are not likely to sway a dishonest actor or paid propagandist, they may be quite helpful to other readers here who he is attempting to confuse and distract, including me. So thank you.

  265. @Been_there_done_that

    UkroNazis are to be swatted like flies. Russia has bigger fish, like USA, to fry in the UN

    UNSC to convene at Russia’s request to probe into U.S. military biological activities in Ukraine

  266. @DevilAdvocate

    Perhaps, Been_there_done_that does have Autism….too many vaccines. Before continuing, maybe we should ask if he’s had the mRNA shot and boosters.

    In 2016, there was a documentary called VAXXED that suggested MMR vaccines was linked to Autism.

    • Agree: Towey
    • LOL: DevilAdvocate
    • Replies: @DevilAdvocate
  267. Sepp says:

    This shows the degree of sophistication of the mind control.

    • Thanks: Towey
  268. Hraezlyr says:

    And this site parades as some kind of “source of knowledge?” It is as rich in intelligence and knowledge as CNN, or any other propagandist outlet, is. Wolfsangel the Ukrainians are using is a German heraldic charge from the 15th century which symbolizes independence. German peasants first started using Wolfsangel symbols 6 centuries ago against oppression of princes and their mercenaries. Here you can read it all yourselves, ignorant american imbeciles.

    But what I find interesting is that Russia is openly parading Communist insignia like five-pointed star, which USSA is also using. All those pentagrams in USSA flag. Tut-tut. Do you know who uses five-pointed star? Communists, Muslims, Jews and the USSA. Hippie freedom lovers and good-hearted liberal imbeciles in the USSA have killed over 33 million people in their numerous aggression across the world since the end of WWII. How many have “Nazis” in Ukraine killed in theirs? Zero. Nada. Zilch. They haven’t invaded anyone. Since 1991 “peaceful” Russian dogs have attacked Chechens in their pursuit of freedom and independence of Russian occupation in 1999, Georgians in 2008, raised separatist rebellions in Ukraine in 2014, intervened in Syrian civil war on Assad’s side in 2015 and outright invaded Ukraine this year. How many have Ukrainian “Nazis” attacked? None whatsoever. They defended their homeland against Russian aggression.

    Now that said, how is it that Russkies are openly using Communist five-pointed star insignia — the very symbol under which hundreds of millions of people have been killed – but Ukrainians cannot use Nazi one? If one is free to use five-pointed star than the other is free to use Wolfsangel.

    I don’t see Russian invaders having any objection or reservation regarding the use of their Soviet flags and symbols, why should Ukrainians have regarding the anti-communist insignia?

  269. Putin has approved foreign volunteers to fight on the Russian side in the Ukraine and tens of thousands of Middle Easterners are waiting to be deployed. Could we be seeing Hezbollah and off duty Iranian Revolutionary Guards taking on the UkroNazis, Western Nazi volunteers, Zionist Jew and Israeli volunteers and ISIS jihadis from the immigrant and refugee communities in the West? Get your pop corn. I hope it is made clear to the Middle Eastern volunteers on the Russian side that they are fighting against the establishment of a new Jewish Khazaria in the Ukraine under the patronage of USA and NATO and to show no mercy to Nazis, jihadis and other assorted enemy combatants being recruited by the Jewish regime of Zelensky and his ZioNazi Western mentors. Today they liberate Ukraine from the Jewish yoke, tomorrow Palestine!

  270. Hraezlyr says:

    Also, how is it that in all those Hollywood film propaganda workshop Nazis have always been villains, felons and criminals and never Communists? If USSA found Ukrainian “Nazis” as its ally, then surely Nazis would be portrayed in more positive light in USSA propaganda. Instead, internationalist ideologies of Liberalism and Communism are celebrated. How is it that Jews tend to hold highest political office in Ukraine? You were saying they are Nazis. What a pathetic propaganda these masonic outlets are parading with. But some people other than your own holding highest political office in your land is also revealing. It is also a form of occupation which must be death with. From what I know Ukrainians are a people and Ukraine is an nation-state. Jews or any other minority element cannot represent Ukrainian people for they are no part of it. Nor can they vote in Ukrainian elections and elect Ukrainian leaders, for they are no part of their ethnic cohort… their national tissue. What is true for Jews is also true for any other people residing on someone else’s land. They cannot vote for leadership of something or someone they are no part of, and even less so represent something or someone they are not. It’s basic logic. Don’t you know what logic is? Evidently not. What reason do “enlightened” liberal mammals have exactly? None. You are fakes and frauds. Charlatans and jokers.

  271. @dogbumbreath

    Yes, perhaps. But have you noticed how he (they) elaborates his comments and replies with plenty of details and a good dose of logic, while at same time avoiding carefully to answer directly to obvious facts or questions posed to him ?
    For me, this is a conscious and voluntary work. After all, if TUR is becoming a reference and valued site, denouncing the official narrative, attacks would be expected, beyond the usual ignorant troll.

    • Replies: @dogbumbreath
  272. @JWalters

    Formost it is about maintaining the fake dollar.

  273. @Mefobills

    You are having trouble following this argument logic because you are very Jewish.


    I enjoy your comments quite a bit

    • Thanks: Mefobills
  274. EugeneGur says:

    Russia could have gone to the UN

    Russia has gone to the US 500 time already – the result has been exactly zero.

    made the case to seek authorization in order to assist the Russian population militarily in the eastern Donbas …. This would have gotten it much sympathy for its cause.

    People in Donbass don’t need your “sympathy”. They require for the Ukrainian Nazis to stop killing them every day, as has been done, with full blessing of the West, for 8 (!) years. Germany and France, the countries, supposedly acting as guarantors of the MinskII agreement, essentially supported the Ukraine’s sabotage of it.

    f there were inherent support within Russia’s population, then the government would not have deemed it necessary to shut down much of the media

    Why has the West shut down all Russian media? Some did it before the events in Ukraine, like Germany with RT. Are they afraid that if the Western public hears the truth, the public opinion might change? It might, actually.
    The Russia government, perfectly correctly, don’t want the Russia population to hear/read calls to kill the Russian soldier, murder Russian leaders or any Russian as is now allowed on Facebook and Instagram. All Russia “opposition” media are Western-owned. It’s the patriotic media that relies on public support.

  275. @Alrenous

    I’ve come to the conclusion that

    right-Virtue Generating Civilization revolving around duty

    Left-degeneracy Generating Civilization revolving around perversion.

  276. Che Guava says:

    Mariupol, like Odessa, by all reports at the time, had many residents opposing the coup of 2013 to 4, only violent repression stopped the process.

    So, ‘fall’ may not be the best way to say it.

    • Replies: @Hraezlyr
  277. @Arthur MacBride

    In regards to Americans being ignorant on history one need only look at who controls the educating establishment.

    I had a rough home life as a kid and had a library three blocks away. It was my refuge.. and while there I discovered my love for reading… So I read and read and read. It’s the only reason all of this threw up red flags for me.

    • Thanks: Arthur MacBride
  278. HdC says:

    The USA has NEVER been the “good guy” when it comes to foreign wars.
    That they were definitely on the wrong side during WW II, and WW I for that matter, is painfully obvious now.
    If I were Germany I’d give Nato and the USA the finger and say: “Your turn, fellas”.

    • Agree: Towey
    • Replies: @Alrenous
    , @Hraezlyr
  279. @DevilAdvocate

    Been_there_done_that is either a TROLL or living in an alternate reality. I have met many during the Scam-demic where no amount of logic, reasoning or facts can change their mind. I admire Mefobill’s patience and can say his comments are a treasure at UNZ.

    What this illustrates is people are different and have the right to think different. Thus a Uni-Polar World cannot work. A Multi-Polar World provides the space where people of like mind and constitution can live together without this kind of friction. My hope is we are witnessing the return of a Multi-Polar World.

  280. peterAUS says:

    Title: Czar Vladimir islamic warriors?


    ..We receive a huge number of applications from all sorts of volunteers from different countries who would like to come to the Lugansk and Donetsk People’s Republics in order to participate in what they consider to be the liberation movement. The largest number is from the countries of the Middle East: already more than 16 thousand applications. And here, of course, we consider it right to respond positively to requests, especially since these requests are not for money, but at the true desire of these people. We know many of them…


    ….if you see that there are people who want to come and help people living in Donbas on a voluntary basis, especially not for money, well, you need to meet them halfway and help them move to the war zone….

    An excellent idea.

    Now, after third day of fighting at Mariupol, the city appears to be fully encircled. Good tempo and momentum. Now, simply the city itself…….
    Snag is: it appears that the locals on the Russian side are reluctant to get into the real fray. Understandable.
    Time to send in proper cannon fodder.

    Or, perhaps they’ll send that “international” brigade into Kharkov. When Russian high command finally decide where, exactly, the center of gravity is. Any moment now…….

    Btw, excellent tactics re Russian local commanders. Send a squad of that meat, see where they got plastered from and shower that area with artillery.

    Looking forward to watching that.

    Good news: Russians could, if they were naive, relax a bit and assume that won’t be any calling up of reserves and/or sending conscripts into meat grinders.

  281. @dogbumbreath

    …living in an alternate reality… I admire Mefobill’s patience…

    Perhaps you were in a trance and confused it with reality, because you seem to have suppressed the fact that he was unable to ever substantiate any of the following six claims that he made with such insistence, which I showed were all false:

    • Broken not-one-inch-east promise by Baker in 1990
    • Russian “concern” of Ukraine joining NATO was genuine
    • NATO has hyper-sonic missiles or will soon deploy them
    • NATO has missile bases in Ukraine on border with Russia
    • Just War Doctrine legally applies to the Russian invasion
    • Applicability of Hitler analogy (persuasive vs. stubborn)

    Going on rants or tantrums and making malicious accusations are not examples of patience.

  282. Alrenous says: • Website

    Nothing stops both sides from being the wrong side.

    Both sides deserved to lose. Which is good, because they did.

    • Replies: @HdC
  283. HdC says:

    Well, the Germans managed to keep the Soviets from invading central and western Europe. In my humble opinion, that deserves better than the usual tripe of “Germany baaad, communism good”.
    That the Soviets did manage to infest eastern Europe, for that you can thank Pres. Roosevelt and his administration.
    The heirs to those war mongers poked the Russian bear once too; now we are facing a nuclear kinetic exchange.
    You think I am overreacting? I recently perused excerpts of a book that analyzed the Nuremberg war crimes trials.
    The overriding conclusion was: Don’t lose a war!
    What do you think Mr Putin will do when facing the loss of his war, and is threatened with “Moscow War Crimes Trials, where the law is made up as it goes along, and real defence is impossible?

    • Agree: Towey, Petermx
    • LOL: Alrenous
  284. @dogbumbreath

    What this illustrates is people are different and have the right to think different. Thus a Uni-Polar World cannot work. A Multi-Polar World provides the space where people of like mind and constitution can live together without this kind of friction. My hope is we are witnessing the return of a Multi-Polar World.

    Absolutely. But there are certain rules of general good sense that every one endowed with a minimum of good will and sense of truth apply to their reasoning and excahnge with others.
    Been-there-done -that is a good example how these rules are blatantly violated. He can apply his strict logic and detail on analysing and refuting whatever he considers to go against his “truth”, while at same time conveniently avoiding to see and examine what is obvious to everyone endowed with good sense.

    In Buddhism there is a story that exemplifies this. It’s about a sage who points to the moon with his index finger, in order to show and explain it to another man. But the man, instead of following the direction and looking into the moon, he just looks to the sage’s index finger, he examines it in detail, describes all the finger’s characteristics, and in the end declares: “There is no such thing as the moon, I just see a finger with such and such characteristics”.
    When we refuse to see beyond the words, refusing to see to what they point, instead of the words themselves, it’s impossible to see the truth.

    • Thanks: dogbumbreath
  285. Hraezlyr says:
    @Che Guava

    What “coup,” Communist dog? They are Ukrainians, both citizens of Odessa and Mariupol. Those who didn’t want to be Ukrainians left 2014. Russian vermin tried to bring Kharkiv and Odessa 2014, but both cities resisted for they are Ukrainian not Russian. For Mariupol Communist sympathizers like yourself were parroting Russkie stories about how “44% of Mariupol’s citizens were ethnic Russians.” The truth is that not even 0.4% is ethnic Russian there. Russian vermin is finished in Ukraine. What it could bring Russian out of Ukraine it did. From these fires of war, Ukrainian national spirit will emerge stronger than it ever was. Forged in the fires of Russo vermin invasion and forever after it will stand against Russian vermin. The fact that behavior of Russian vermin was responsible for the forging of yet another national spirit who will become anti-Russky is… most apt. The fate it would seem has a sense of humor. All of Russo trash western border is filled with such spirits, so what is one more on top of so many already existing. Communists and their sympathizers must be dealt with. There must be no mercy for Communist filth.

    • Troll: Commentator Mike
  286. Hraezlyr says:

    There is no “good” and “bad” guys, you clown. Good and evil does not exist. Nature does not recognize it. Masonic filth has been polluting your feeble little minds with their gnostic stories. In reality “good” and “evil” is non-existent. Do you know how those stories came to be? Gnostic Manicheans saw “struggle” with light and darkness (day and night) and gnostic freemasons adopted their deep “knowledge” about the matter. Such “knowledge” to see Earth’s rotation as “struggle” between light and darkness, that is between good and evil. Such fiction. You need to have mind of the cave-man to believe in such imbecility, that is to have no mind at all.

    • Replies: @HdC
  287. Hraezlyr says:

    There are however those who are no threat to their neighbors and those who are not. There are those who attack their neighbors, and those who do not. Ukrainian Nazis are no threat to their neighbors, but Russky Communists evidently are. Ukrainian Nazis seek no rule over other nations in their vicinity, while Russky Communists clearly do. Russkies think they have right to attack, occupy or subjugate others, Ukrainians do not. Who is liked by their neighbors and who is commonly hated? It’s clear to everyone.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  288. Wielgus says:

    “Vzglyad” Russian website, Yandex translation

    Congressman: According to secret briefings, Zelensky has no chance

    March 12, 2022, 11:47
    Photo: Zuma/TASS
    Text: Vera Basilaya
    Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has no chance, in the current situation, the Kiev authorities will “quickly collapse,” said US Congressman Darrell Issa, adding that this is being discussed at secret briefings without the participation of the President of Ukraine.

    “Fortunately, President Zelensky is not present at our secret briefings, where it was repeatedly said that he has no chance, he will not survive and will quickly collapse. We supply it as if in order for it to fail,” Darell Issa said on Fox Business, Komsomolskaya Pravda reports.

    The congressman also added that the help of the American side now, in fact, does not bring real benefits for Ukraine. However, he noted that he considers the US sanctions imposed against Russia to be “unreasonable.”

    Earlier, the head of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, said that he was ready to personally ask Russian President Vladimir Putin for asylum for Vladimir Zelensky if he was ready for dialogue, otherwise the Ukrainian leader would face the fate of former Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili.

    Kadyrov also suggested that Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky transfer power to Viktor Yanukovych and “rely on fate” in order to partially atone for his guilt.

  289. @Hraezlyr

    Mariupol is going down, going down, going down
    Mariupol is going down, going down, going down
    Bang, Bang, Bang!

    Nazi scum are going down, going down, going down
    Nazi scum are going down, going down, going down
    Bang, Bang, Bang!

    URA! URA! URA!

    • Troll: Hraezlyr
    • Replies: @Hraezlyr
  290. @Zachary Smith

    Yeah Tucker Carlson couldn’t care less what happens to any Russian. He is of the same mind as Mike Pompeo… They want the US to be friendly to Russia just so the whole white race can fight against China.

  291. HdC says:

    “…There is no “good” and “bad” guys, you clown. …”
    This little ditty springs to mind in reply: “Those without beliefs, believe anything”.

    • Replies: @Hraezlyr
  292. @Commentator Mike

    Thanks for one of the few sensible comments… You are correct that it is not just about Ukraine…. It is also about NATO removing offensive US weapons from all territories since the post Soviet era… It was spelled out in black and white… These Azov groups are part of it – but frankly had those other NATO de-escalation moves been made – there would be a different set of circumstances now.

  293. Che Guava says:

    I have Russky, Polski friends, Jewish-ruled Ukraine as a state is a bad joke, has been so for almost ten years. If your people can shake that off, it would be a step forward.

    However, your user-name appears to be Israeli, so GTFO.

  294. annamaria says:

    Judea Declared War on Russia – and the stupid followers of Stepan Bandera have betrayed Bandera and sold out Ukraine (and Ukrainians) to Zionists.

    Andriy Biletsky, the commander of the self-proclaimed Nazi Azov Battalion: “Our nation’s historical mission at this critical juncture is to lead the global White Race in its final crusade for its survival. A crusade against the Semite-led Untermenschen.

    Yarosh, Biletski, Parubyj, and the whole bunch of Ukrainian generals appointed by the Jewish President of Ukraine (dirty-dancer) Zelensky are the Semite-led Untermenschen or Zionists’ goons.

  295. @Mefobills

    Your comment escaped me, it is way beyond your regular concise comments on technicalities of finance. Thanks.

  296. peterAUS says:

    Material butcher’s bill, in just three weeks, for controlling less than 30 % of the enemy territory, and no major urban center taken:
    Russia – 1136, of which: destroyed: 474, damaged: 14, abandoned: 172, captured: 476

    This is surprisingly high number even for the Russian way of war.
    And we still, haven’t seen any major urban combat where the real casualties will start mounting up.

    Speaking of which:

    This IS improvement. Good move by Kremlin. Much better to waste some Syrians than own citizens.

    All good.

    Don’t worry about all that economic stuff.
    The NPCs (90 % of Western population) will blame the war in general, and Putin in particular, for the coming hardship. They’ll probably be even proud of it. “Look at me how I suffer for common good” etc. They did pass the (Scamdmic) test with flying colors.
    Learn how to live with much less (freedom included) and hope that TPTBs won’t make a mistake and get all this nuclear.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  297. @annamaria

    What a rogues’ gallery of ZioNazis!

  298. Wielgus says:

    (No such thing as a free weapons system even if “we are all Ukrainians”)
    Vzglyad website (Russian source – Yandex translation)

    Zelensky: Ukraine will have to pay for the help of the West
    March 12, 2022, 20:03 text: Alexandra Yudina
    Western countries are providing assistance to Ukraine, but not free of charge, Kiev will have to pay for it, Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky said at a briefing for foreign journalists.

    “Today, the money that Europe and the world allocates to us, they all go to humanitarian aid or weapons. Sometimes, you know, the weapons that are allocated to us, you have to understand that not everywhere, but all this has a score. And when they discuss the amounts that are allocated to us, it was all worth it, it’s not free,” TASS reports his words.

    According to Zelensky, Ukraine deserves to be in the EU. “And we don’t need to promise anything, we need to be specifically supported,” he added.

    Recall that President of Ukraine Vladimir Zelensky signed an application for Ukraine’s accession to the European Union on February 28. French President Emmanuel Macron said that he did not consider it possible to start the procedure for Ukraine’s admission to the EU. Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte explained that there is no accelerated procedure for joining the European Union.

    Meanwhile, the participants of the summit of EU leaders in Versailles disagreed on the issue of Ukraine’s accession to the EU.

  299. Wielgus says:

    Vzglyad website – Russian source, Yandex translation, edited

    The Ukrainian operation debunks the inflated reputation of “Bayraktars”
    Turkish “Bayraktars” are effective only in certain conditions
    March 12, 2022, 19:30
    Photo: .ua
    Text: Andrey Rezchikov


    Long before the Russian special operation, Ukrainian politicians and the military declared that the Turkish Bayraktar drones would give them a powerful weapon against the “aggressor country”. Ukraine started purchasing these UAVs after Azerbaijan’s victory in the Second Karabakh War – it was then that these drones had a brilliant reputation. Why are the Bayraktars almost powerless now?

    On Saturday, the official representative of the Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation Igor Konashenkov said that over the past day during the operation in Ukraine, the Russian military shot down five drones, including two Bayraktars, and a total of 123 unmanned aerial vehicles have been destroyed since February 24.

    At the time of the beginning of the Russian special operation, Ukraine had from 5 to 50 Bayraktar TB2 devices. There is no exact data on this. The country has other drones, including its own production, such as the Leleka-100, but it is around the Bayraktar that the image of modern weapons has been created, which almost decides the outcome of modern military conflicts. This myth was actively supported in Ukraine.

    Now, according to the Telegram channel “Reports of the militia of Novorossiya”, almost all the Bayraktars that were in the arsenal of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) were shot down by Russian air defence fire. Part of them failed due to improper operation, “but it will not be possible to restore them quickly.”

    The other day, the Turkish military transport aviation carried out another delivery of drones for the AFU through a Polish airfield, and from there the drones were delivered to Ukraine by cars. Last Wednesday, the Ukrainian Defence Minister announced in a Facebook post that the country had received a fresh batch of combat drones. “They are ready to fight,” Alexey Reznikov said.

    In 2020, Kiev agreed with Ankara on the release of Turkish “Bayraktars” on the territory of Ukraine. It was not about a screwdriver assembly of components, but the transfer to Ukrainians of UAV production technology, whose electronic filling is supplied from the USA and Canada. The Kiev authorities announced the start of production only in December last year. It is currently unknown how well it is debugged.

    In 2019, Ukraine purchased Bayraktar T with high-precision MAM-L aerial bombs with a laser beam guidance system in the amount of \$ 69 million. The price of one drone is about \$ 2 million. The warhead of the missile is equipped with charges of both thermobaric and fragmentation types – that is, it can be used to defeat both heavy equipment and infrastructure, as well as enemy manpower accumulations. Of the minuses, Bayraktars are devoid of self-defence systems and are easily detected and hit by air defence systems.

    Ukraine has its own experience in the production of drones. During the Soviet years, the Kharkov Aircraft Factory produced the Tu-141 “Strizh”, which was in service with the USSR Air Force from 1979 to 1989. If Russia has long abandoned the “Swifts”, then in Ukraine they are still used. On the eve it became known about the loss by the AFU of two such machines at once, one of which even flew to the capital of Croatia.

    There were suggestions about the agreements between Kiev and Ankara on the supply of Bayraktars that the Ukrainian military leaders hoped to repeat the Karabakh blitzkrieg in the Donbass with the help of Turkish drones. Indeed, one of the main discoveries of the Karabakh war was the massive Bayraktar TB2 attacks. Military experts at that time stressed that the Second Karabakh War turned out to be a new type of war, and its main feature was the massive and effective use of shock UAVs.

    The Western press continues to praise the Ukrainian “Bayraktars” with might and main, noting that despite the disadvantages – slow speed (no more than 130 km / h) and low altitude (seven kilometers) they were not completely destroyed in the first few hours after the start of the Russian special operation.

    The Russian Federation has long-range cruise missiles capable of destroying drones on the ground, short-range anti-aircraft missile systems that can easily shoot down drones in flight, and electronic warfare (EW) means that can block the communication of drones, after which they fail during flight. Moreover, in Libya and Syria, Russian forces effectively resisted Turkish tactics and shot down their drones.

    The Russian Defence Ministry has repeatedly informed about the destruction of Ukrainian drones before, but the Ukrainian media continue to report on how the Bayraktars are launching new guided missile strikes. However, these videos are isolated and cannot be verified. Recordings from exercises, editing and other fakes can be issued for real shots. Nevertheless, Ukrainian social networks and Telegram channels even compose songs about this drone. On Thursday, a video appeared on social networks claiming that Bayraktar allegedly destroyed a Russian mobile rocket launcher.

    Sergey Denisentsev, an expert at the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, notes that any strike UAVs work well only when the enemy does not have full-fledged air defence and air force. “We see some videos from the Ukrainian side, but there can be no undivided domination that the Bayraktars had in Karabakh. The Russian army has a full-fledged air force, air defence, etc. A lot of Ukrainian drones were shot down in the air and hit on the ground,” the expert says.

    At the final stage of the war, the air defence systems of the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic were disabled and the Bayraktars destroyed the Karabakh troops with impunity. “This cannot happen in Ukraine while the Russian Aerospace Forces have air supremacy. Kiev’s ability to use Bayraktars is limited,” Denisentsev explained. He believes that even an increase in the number of drones will not affect the effectiveness of their use in these conditions.

    Denis Fedutinov, a well-known expert on unmanned systems, also notes that there have been many reports from the Ukrainian side about the use of drones, “however, I have not seen unconditional confirmation of these facts.” “After the war, a significant propaganda effect appeared in Karabakh, aimed, among other things, at promoting drones. This was not done without the participation of the Turkish side. The image of an ultra-efficient system was inflated, and relatively inexpensive when compared with its American counterparts,” Fedutinov believes.

    According to him, in the same Karabakh, many operations were carried out by ground-based means – artillery and missile systems, and then were issued as the results of the work of “Bayraktars”. “Drones were more involved in pointing weapons and monitoring the results of the strikes. But in general, the events in Nagorno-Karabakh were presented as a war of a new generation, a war of drones and robots, where attack drones are, as it were, the main means,” the interlocutor explained.

    Moreover, Ukraine cannot significantly increase the number of drones, “because everything depends on the ability of the Turkish side to reproduce them.” “The question here is not in quantity, but in the ability to cover the Bayraktars. Bayraktar itself cannot conduct air combat due to the lack of air-to-air missiles, it cannot challenge air supremacy and destroy fighters.

    This is a weapon for working on the ground,” said the expert of the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies.

    As for the complete destruction of the Ukrainian “Bayraktars”, it is not so easy – at least because of the huge size of Ukraine. “There are many airfields in Ukraine. Bayraktar can be based on simple and even abandoned airfields, it is easy to disguise it. Therefore, destroying them all at once at the beginning of the operation is not such an easy task,” Denisentsev said.

    The successful work of Russian troops against Turkish UAVs is illustrated, in particular, by the feat of Captain Alexey Pankratov. It is reported that from the first day of the special operation, the officer performed tasks to cover a separate motorised rifle brigade from enemy aircraft. As a result of competent actions, Pankratov’s well-aimed fire shot down one Su-25 and three Bayraktars of the Ukrainian armed forces, which made it possible to prevent an air attack on the positions of Russian motorised infantry. And the next day, two more Bayraktars were destroyed by the forces of the division under the direct leadership of Pankratov.

    Of course, all this does not mean that strike UAVs as a weapon system as a whole do not have a real combat value. Both Bayraktars and other similar drones are very effective, but only under certain conditions. Judging by what we see on the battlefield, the Russian command has managed to understand this. An example of this is not only the inglorious use of Bayraktars by Ukraine, but also the very effective use of Russian UAVs against Ukrainian troops.

    • Thanks: Commentator Mike
  300. @peterAUS

    It looks that the Russians will not be obliterating the Ukrainian forces trapped in the cauldrons, as I had expected, as presumably that would use up a lot of artillery and cause many civilian casualties, but are breaking them up into ever smaller isolated pockets. It seems they’re dealing with the cities in the same way. This is slower and probably exposes the Russian forces to some ambushes but it reduces civilian casualties. Then as such ever smaller pockets are liberated they’re combined into ever increasing areas free of enemy combatants. Escaping enemy soldiers will only end up being trapped and/or broken up in new pockets, running around hopelessly like rats, and are actually acting in a disorganised way on a macro level even if on a micro level they seem to be organised and performing their functions. Any small success here and there, like knocking out some Russian tanks, sends them into raptures and gives them some hope but ultimately their efforts are futile as this Russian method grinds them down slowly but surely. In fact it must be fun for Russian commanders playing with them in this way, they must have a good laugh watching the Ukrainian forces on the battlefield. The LDNR militia seem to be a rag tag outfit and are suffering many casualties but are experienced and highly motivated, and have got the UkroNazis on the run leaving behind tanks and other equipment although they don’t give details of Ukrainian casualties and captives. They obviously fit well into this battle plan despite the heavy casualties. Ukrainian troops simply don’t stand a chance either in the open fields or the inbuilt urban areas. The Russian method is mathematical, geometric, and methodical.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Hraezlyr
  301. peterAUS says:
    @Commentator Mike

    You put some thought there and expressed in a civil way so I’ll respond:

    Why “no” would require a deep understanding of modern MOUT/FIBUA which, in my experience, is sorely lacking on this online pub.
    You appear to be interested in topic. I suggest reading
    which will give you solid grounding, and update it with

    THEN, start watching what’s going on.
    If you wish, of course.

    I’ll briefly reiterate here:
    Russian armed forces lack both expertise and equipment for modern MOUT. So, while that “pockets” IS a way to do it, Russians can not do it without huge destruction and (civilian) loss of life.
    Ukrainian soldiers mounting a defense of Mariupol, Kharkov and Kiev are doing well.
    The LNDR militia are NOT experienced in modern MOUT.
    These shitheads coming from ME are much worse; the real cannon fodder.

    I suggest you keep focus on Mariupol. You’ll notice, if you are careful observer, that the real fighting still haven’t moved from suburbs into the multi-story part of the city. THAT is the place where this fight will be won or lost.
    And, again, according to my info, Ukrainian defenders there are doing well.
    So…keep watching.

    And Mariupol is the smallest 244 km2 with density 1,800/km2. Kharkov is 350 km2 with 4,500/km2. Kiev is 839 km2 with 3,299/km2. Density in particular.

  302. annamaria says:

    “Ukrainian soldiers mounting a defense of Mariupol, Kharkov and Kiev are doing well.”

    Are you sure that these Ukrainian soldiers represent the acme of modern warfare? You seem to be in favor of using civilians as a human shield, which is surely a talmudic (shameless, dishonorable) manner of ‘doing well’ in the current situation.

    This man is a known expert:

    Also, what are the recent military achievements of the graduates of the U.S. Army War College? – Fallujah? Raqqa?

  303. annamaria says:

    “And, again, according to my info, Ukrainian defenders there are doing well.” comment section:

    The “muh 13 Spartans, the “muh Kiev ghost” and a hundred other examples have been proven to be fake. Why should we believe anything Ukraine is saying right now when they’re quite clearly willing to tell as many lies as necessary to manipulate the American public?

    The Pentagon has people who are exceptionally good at producing fakes. In Afghanistan in the early 2010s, I met an IO shop with guys who could forge extremely convincing photos and hand-written documents meant to cause confusion and distrust in the Taliban. I’m sure they’re even more sophisticated a decade later. And it is common knowledge that we trained a Ukrainian disinformation machine and put it in Crimea. In 2014 they escaped to West Ukraine. They must be using the hell out of it right now, and they’ve had 8 years to produce a mountain of fakes they can drip-feed onto the internet.

    I spell it out more in the article below, but that’s the general gist of it.

    It has the sense to trust this person; he describes his field experience. As for your “Ukrainian defenders are doing well” – doesn’t sound convincing. “The Pentagon has people who are exceptionally good at producing fakes. … And it is common knowledge that we trained a Ukrainian disinformation machine…”

  304. Athena says:

    ”The U.S. government still spends billions every year on disability payments to those who served in Vietnam — including their children, many of whom are suffering from dioxin-associated cancers and birth defects.”

    “We spend billions per week on undeclared wars to injure, kill, and destroy. We spend hundreds of millions of dollars on fraudulent and wasteful defense contracts. We spend billions on drones and bombs which kill 687 civilians per 14 enemy targets, amounting to a ratio of nearly 50 civilians killed for each undeclared enemy killed.”

  305. Hraezlyr says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Look at this communist imbecile. Why don’t you take some Russian name, Communista Mike? It would be appropriate. If Russian dogs could take Mariupol, they would. What they are doing is killing civilians and razing the city with artillery bombardment.

    Now look at these Russian dogs. They had claimed that Mariupol was their pro-Russian city just before the invasion. After the failure to occupy it, they started shelling the city to the ground. That’s Russian dogs’ general modus operandi. But to have the gall to claim that city was one of the biggest pro-Russian cities with 44% of its citizens being ethnic Russian was especially despicable. Russky lies know no bounds.


    From what I see, you Communist dog, your cowardly Russkies are mass murdering civilians via shelling of that city, because they cannot take the city as soldiers ought to: through fight with opposing soldiers. Cowardly Communist dogs are doing what they have always been done: murdering civilians. You Communists are among the lowest humanoid lifeforms. Scum without honor.

    • LOL: Commentator Mike
    • Troll: DevilAdvocate
  306. Hraezlyr says:

    Those with beliefs don’t believe anything. Fools and imbeciles do. There are sound beliefs in forms of theories that are products of logical deduction which can be later on confirmed through empirical evidence (or discarded should they fail to prove themselves through empirical observations), and then there are these kinds of imbecilic gnostic teachings followers of gnostic cults are polluting unsuspicious minds with (like your mentioning of “good” and “evil”). I was explaining to you simple truth: that there is no “bad” or “good” guys or “good” and “evil” from which that thought of yours originated. There is always a point of reference. Einstein knew this and adopted it in his physic theory when explaining the world around us. You can read about it. It is called relativity. From the point of Russkies what they are doing is good, good for them: they are invading another nation trying to conquer them, wishing to appropriate whatever they could Ukrainian into themselves. It is bad for Ukrainians of course. They are being bombed, their infrastructure destroyed, being killed and 2.5 million of Ukrainians have been expelled from their land by Russkie invasion as of now. From the point of reference of us neutral bystanders that invasion of Russian dogs is bad of course, unless you are Communist sympathizer who cheer for Russo dogs for historical and ideological reasons.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  307. Petermx says:

    It’s not only recently. During WW II the USA was much more known among Germans for their ability to drop bombs on cities and civilians than to fight an opposing army. The former was much less dangerous than the latter, especially as Germany’s ability to defend German skies continued to weaken.

  308. Hraezlyr says:
    @Commentator Mike

    You ignorant Communist clown, Russkies are suffering heavy losses. Their proven losses are at least 3x higher than Ukrainian ones. They lost 1149 tanks, IFVs, APCs and auxiliary units in addition of losing 4 generals, whereas Ukrainians lost 327 such units. That’s why your cowardly Russkie dogs are doing things like attacking civilians with cluster munition which are war crimes by the customs of war. Ukrainians are fighting valiantly while invading Russkie dogs are suffering on the battlefield so they turn onto killing civilians instead because civilians are easy targets that do not fight back. That is well known communist tradition.

    • Troll: Commentator Mike
    • Replies: @annamaria
  309. @peterAUS

    I suggest you keep focus on Mariupol. You’ll notice, if you are careful observer, that the real fighting still haven’t moved from suburbs into the multi-story part of the city. THAT is the place where this fight will be won or lost.
    And, again, according to my info, Ukrainian defenders there are doing well.
    So…keep watching.

    Uh, I don’t know if being stuck in a few blocks downtown surrounded by a huge and growing army offers any prospects of winning. But watch Odessa next as apparently supplies and reinforcements of fighters are still pouring in from Western Ukraine, and presumably from the West with those newly recruited mercenaries.

    The UAF are waiting for the assault in the city of Odessa, transferring reinforcements from western Ukraine.

    That will be a tougher nut to crack. We’ll see.

    These shitheads coming from ME are much worse; the real cannon fodder.

    Well yes. But I don’t think they’ll be used in Mariupol or anywhere in the LDNR. I think the LDNR militia wants to free its own territory by itself, even at great cost in lives of its militia men, although of course Russian forces pressing from the north helps. I think it’s something to do about their pride as a newly formed republic and having fought for 8 years. Even any Russians fighting there are those who are from that region and the foreign fighters are those who have some association with the area and have fought for LDNR previously. That is just my impression. Apparently there are many foreigners applying to join the LDNR forces but I think they’re not accepting them this time round unlike in the earlier wars post 2014.

    • Replies: @DevilAdvocate
    , @peterAUS
  310. Hraezlyr says:

    Doesn’t matter. On their land Ukrainians are free to worship whatever ideology they want. They are no threat to anyone. When they become a threat to their neighbors, then their ideological perspective becomes troublesome. They couldn’t possibly worship Communist ideology after Communist occupation and all those grievous Communist crimes they were subjected to.

    Millions Ukrainians were killed by the Communist during Communist Muscovite occupation; just in Holodomor crimes in the 1930s, 3.5 million Ukrainians were killed e in the 1930s. And since Russkies are such ardent followers and worshipers of Communism, naturally they will be seen as adversaries by Ukrainian people. Naturally they will turn to ideological enemy of Communist plague. Why do you look surprised, Communist dogs? It’s perfectly normal to like enemy of your enemy. It is to be expected.

    Nazis will always mass supporters, naturally because of national socialism all sane people love and cherish (for none but utter imbeciles could ever yearn to be exploited by the capitalist parasites for personal benefit (enriching) of the few), but also because we Nationalists are staunch enemies of internationalism. Only national character exists. Internationalist ones just represents a class of political compradors who are working for for their personal benefit for foreign interests. We Nationalists have our nation, our people, land, traditions, history and culture. Internationalists only exists as a class of political compradors and nothing more.

    What is left of Internationalists – Communists – in Ukraine? What is left is just that political class of compradors and nothing more. Poroshenko, Yanuovich, Timoshenko, et al. That’s what is left of internationlism. Nowadsys they wouldn’t ever dare to shout some internationalist slogans like they did during their Communist days. You are left right where you always were: non-existence.

    • Troll: Commentator Mike
    • Replies: @annamaria
  311. @Commentator Mike

    Uh, I don’t know if being stuck in a few blocks downtown surrounded by a huge and growing army offers any prospects of winning.

    It depends on what we understand by “winning”. If the resistency manages to stay there for long time, exhausting the attackers, keeping the civilians as shields, and somehow being re-supplied, things can last enough to both exhaust the attacker army and, more important, create a wave of support which will defeat any negotiations and agreements later. And inspiring guerilla and discord, later.
    In the end, the russians may win militarily but be defeated in everything else.

    That was probably the logic behind a war of complete destruction, as led by US in ME, so that there is nothing to resist in the end, limiting their own losses, and no trace left to be shown to journalists and to the world.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  312. annamaria says:

    “they are invading another nation trying to conquer them…”

    — Actually, this describes your zionist masters.

    Judea Declared War on Russia and the stupid followers of Bandera flocked under Judea’s banners. Ukraine has a Jewish president (of homoerotic persuasion), a Jewish PM, and Jewish handlers from Nuland-Kagan to Blinken. You have been Judaized!

    Even your murderous hate towards Russians is an imitation of Jewish hatred of “Amalek” (Persian, German, Spaniard, Russian…).

    Banderites have got a Darwin Award by becoming the willing two-legged cannon fodder for the Knesset on Potomac. Banderites betrayed not just Russians and Byelorussians: by serving their Zicoon masters, Banderites betrayed all Slavic people. Judas.

  313. annamaria says:

    Just say whatever you want to say in Hebrew. You are not a Slav anymore. Your Nazi battalions are property of Jews.

    • Replies: @Hraezlyr
  314. annamaria says:

    “Millions Ukrainians were killed by the Communist during Communist Muscovite occupation,,,”

    — The First Secretary of the Communist Party of Ukraine during Holodomor was Lazar Kaganovich. All six secret police bosses at that time were Jewish.

    By sleight of hand, you want to convince others (and yourself) that Bolsheviks were Russians. You forgot whom Stepan Bandera was fighting: the Judeo-Bolsheviks.

    Banderites in Canada and Ukraine were bought by American Ziocons to fight against Russians. What’s her name – Nuland-Kagan? Yes, she is your new commander. Mazel Tov! Perhaps Banderites should take on a new name of the Kaganites.

    The criminal investigation established that the leadership of the Bolshevik totalitarian regime – Stalin [Georgian], Molotov [Russian with a Jewish wife], Kaganovich [Jew], Kaganovich [Jew], Postyshev [Russian], Kosior [Pole], Chubar [Ukrainian] and Khatayevych [Jew] had on the territory of the Ukrainian SSR committed genocide of a part of the Ukrainian ethnic group.

    All these opportunists – Biletski, Yarosh, Parubyj, and other alleged “nationalists” acting under the command of the Jewish Lobby – have betrayed the memory of the Ukrainian people who perished under the Bolsheviks’ regime.

    • Agree: Petermx
    • Troll: Hraezlyr
    • Replies: @Towey
    , @Hraezlyr
  315. @annamaria

    Are you sure that these Ukrainian soldiers represent the acme of modern warfare? You seem to be in favor of using civilians as a human shield, which is surely a talmudic (shameless, dishonorable) manner of ‘doing well’ in the current situation.

    What PeterAUS is probably pointing is: the RF army is doing too many mistakes, so that gives an advantage (probably temporary) to the Ukrainian army.

    It looks that using civilians as shields has become a “standard” technique in urban warfare. Of course it’s wrong. And RF army tiptoeing on their advances do not help them at all.
    But that “technique” probably explains why the US led a war of complete destruction, in ME, so that there is nothing to resist in the end, while limiting their own losses, and no trace left to be shown to journalists and to the world.

  316. @DevilAdvocate

    There is no chance of resupplying those in Mariupol and the same will apply to other areas when their encirclement is complete. I don’t think it’s bad PR the way it’s going as they’ll be able to capture some of he Nazis and whoever is on their wanted lists and these will later be brought to trial and their crimes broadcast to the world.

    • Troll: Hraezlyr
    • Replies: @DevilAdvocate
  317. @Commentator Mike

    Even without resupplying, they may have good stocks of ammunition and food. And you underestimate the body’s capacity to go without food: up to 30 days or more. Even if that means a lack of physical strength (not too necessary, if they are not moving around).

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  318. peterAUS says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Uh, I don’t know if being stuck in a few blocks downtown surrounded by a huge and growing army offers any prospects of winning.

    I do. Especially in adverse weather. As it drags out.

    …watch Odessa next..

    One city at the time. TIME as keyword.

    …I think the LDNR militia wants to free its own territory by itself, even at great cost in lives of its militia men…

    Great cost in lives for sure. As for the result of that, we’ll see.


    If the resistency manages to stay there for long time, exhausting the attackers, keeping the civilians as shields, and somehow being re-supplied, things can last enough to both exhaust the attacker army and, more important, create a wave of support which will defeat any negotiations and agreements later.


    Even without resupplying, they may have good stocks of ammunition and food.

    There are also some other ways/tricks to get both but let’s leave that out of this conversation.

    • Replies: @DevilAdvocate
  319. @peterAUS

    It looks the RF army is finally doing the dirty necessary job.

    I hope there aren’t too many civilians in those buildings…

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  320. peterAUS says:

    It looks the RF army is finally doing the dirty necessary job.

    10 % of it. If…IF…the actual target was there where the shells hit. Just two levels below it’s just a sound.
    Besides, that’s the easiest part of the play.

    Remaining 90 % is The Problem.
    SOMEBODY has to advance to that building. Not easy…..
    Then, the same somebody (or what’s left of the guys who started the assault) has to CLEAR the building. ALL of it.

    Then the next building. And the next.
    A lot of buildings in a modern city.

    Bottom line: I haven’t seen, so far, anything such done by Russians in this war.

    Fallujah, done by Americans, is the latest in modern MOUT. And, yet, BUILDINGS in that city were a joke compared to Mariupol, Kharkov, Odessa, Kiev…….

    I guess you haven’t even skimmed through that (admit, dated a bit) material I referenced somewhere around here. There is a part about type of buildings, MATIERIAL used, layout of an urban environment, etc.
    There is also a part about how many men is required to clear and secure a multistory building.
    Perhaps you could take a quick look at that.

    As for

    I hope there aren’t too many civilians in those buildings

    They are in the cellar, if in that building at all.
    Of course, fighters and their ammo are in the cellar too.
    I am sure that a couple of thermobarics/satchel charges will solve that problem upon actual assault. All part of …ahm…liberating Ukrainian people.

  321. Hitler loved, absolutely loved his folk and his country. They loved him too. He saved their land, their people. He was their greatest hero. Adored by all.

    He spouted Darwinism and Eugenics in his writings and speeches because he was a well-read man. Eugenics was born in America and was heavily embraced by America and France and England. Every developed country was experimenting with Eugenic ideology. It was the latest Science of the day.

    But oh…the Evil Nazis and their plan for the Master Race. It is all so ridiculous that we lay all the blame on Germany.

    Hitler was fighting the Bolsheviks and the spread of communism. Hitler and the National Socialists had a very simple solution for Jewish Bolshevik partisan TERRORIST. When caught red-handed they immediately executed the whole lot of them -right there on the side of the road. Machined gunned into a ditch.

    This is how Putin will deal with American trained supposed Nazis. They will be shot on the spot. Through attrition..America will lose its newest Terrorist Army.

    We created Al Qaeda
    We created ISIS
    We created the Contra deaths squads of the 1980s
    We created the Columbian death squads of the 1970s
    We created the Cuban death squads of the 1960s
    We funded the death squads in Lybia in the 2000s

    Now we create a bunch of Nazi fucks in Ukraine

    I am so tired of funding this shit with my tax dollars.

  322. @Towey

    I think you are right. I’ve been struck by the fact that Winston Churchill wrote books on WW2 but never mentioned his enemy Hitler mistreating Jews, though he must have had his spies in enemy territory.

    • Replies: @Towey
  323. Hraezlyr says:

    Ignorance is strong with your. Israel and the Jews generally are supporting your Russkie dogs, not Ukrainians like I do. You are blathering, fruitcake. And we Illyrians are no Slavs, but carriers of Slavic culture. Russian dogs are no Slavs, but Tatar plague.

  324. Hraezlyr says:

    Your Russkie dogs served Bolsheviks. They did it of their own free will. Are you unable to read too? You’ve already proven your inability to comprehend. You must be a woman. It’s a waste of time conversing with women. Those Nationalists you mentioned, silly woman, were never served international political orientation (occupation) in any way, shape or form. Jews served internationalist (Communist) political occupation as compradors, Nationalists ever served only their own. You are ignorant of basics.

    • Troll: mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Sparkon
  325. Hraezlyr says:

    You ought to finally start learning the basics, Communista crowd. The basics are very simple. In no universe can nationalists be on the same team as internationalists. By the very definition, internationalists represent political occupation of national worlds and by definition national words are organic entities with their origins, histories, authentic cultures, ethnic people, etc. Internationalists are just political class of servants and sub-servants in the forms of mindless primates who are serving the function of useful idiots for the political class by being their zombie followers in addition of occasionally shouting political (ideologically communist or liberal) slogans, and… that’s all. Nationalists cannot be followers of internationalists.

    Nationalist worlds cannot possibly be followers of that which by their advertised and public political program is trying to ruin national worlds, that’s why internationalists are just political class of servants and an indoctrinated collection of useful idiots (which are naturally always dominantly represented by women since that gender by its inherent natural mental faculty simply lacks logical ability (relative to their opposite gender) for understanding the world around them which makes them easily subverted and enslaved to serve someone else’s will or interests instead of their own, that is the world they originated from; as I often remark, women are slaves by nature and it is not a coincidence or a chance or accident that woman is portrayed as a betrayer in all the oldest of stories like the Bible for instance nor has the custom that women leave their families sprung out of nothing, nor is the women’s support of internationalist political occupation represented by its ideological liberalism and communism accidental).

    But know this, also: traitors shall be dealt with and all shall fall under its natural order sooner or later; there is no defying natural laws in the long run. Many others before your ilk even existed were defying sacred laws of natural gravity too. You clowns think you are somehow the first? You are not. And you shall follow those before you on the same path into the void. That’s why the ancients use to say that fate is determined.

  326. Wielgus says:

    Shot-down aircrew, certainly US ones, are taught that a week without food will perhaps be unpleasant but not do them any harm although if they have to move around their stamina will eventually degrade. Prison hunger strikers can last for months but they typically conserve their energy.
    Lack of access to water is a bigger problem.

    • Replies: @DevilAdvocate
  327. annamaria says:

    Ms. Hraezlyr, you protest too much.

    Ukrainian Nationalists have been serving American Ziocons for decades, beginning with Ukrainian Banderites who were skillfully tamed by Jews. Don’t you think that the anti-Christ Christya Freeland (a progeny of a prominent Nazi collaborator Chomyak) can become a trustee of the World Economic Forum and Deputy of Just Trudy if she were not a loyal servant to Jewish interests?

    Currently, almost all Ukrainian Nationalists are Semite-led Untermenschen. This is why Israel has been providing rifles to the Azov battalion that was created and financed by the president of the Jewish Community of Ukraine Kolomojsky.

    This is the official leader of the Ukrainian Nationalists: “Volodymyr Zelensky is dancing in heels.”

  328. annamaria says:

    The Arlinton Memorial should be renamed. Ask those American generals who have been supporting and arming Ukrainian self-proclaimed Nazis. The US Army brass is a zionized scum of war profiteers. They should invite Mr. Ze to become their Leader, on a par with Admiral Levine.

    On March 14, at about 11.30 a.m. Moscow time, Tochka-U tactical missile was fired at a residential block of Donetsk city from the territory controlled by the Kiev nationalist regime.

    ▪️ The shelling of the city was carried out from the north-western direction, from the area of Krasnoarmeysk settlement, which is controlled by Ukrainian nationalist units.

    ▪️ As a result of the explosion of a cluster warhead in the center of Donetsk, 20 civilians were killed. Another 28 people, including children, were seriously injured and taken to medical institutions.

    ▪️ The use of such weapons on a town with no armed forces firing positions, i.e. deliberately targeting civilians, is a war crime.

    ▪️ The armament of Tochka-U missile’ warhead with cluster ammunition proves that the purpose of the nationalists’ strike on the city was to kill as many civilians as possible.

    ❗️I would like to draw your attention to the fact that the decision to use this type of missile weapons is made, at least, by the command of the Ukrainian grouping of troops, after approval by the leadership of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Kiev.

    The Nazified Armed Forces of Ukraine in Kiev are continuous with the zionized Armed Forces of the US. As it is well-known, the American military and NATO are very fond of murdering civilians en masse, whether in Yugoslavia or Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Yemen.

    New leader for the US Army:

    Volodymyr Zelensky is dancing in heels.

    Dr. Rachel Levine, the highest-ranking openly transgender official in the United States. Previously known as Richard Levine, Rachel Levine officially transitioned her gender in 2011.

  329. @Wielgus

    Sure. I have 1st hand experience because I decided to make a serie of fasts, 3 years ago.
    Started with 1, 2, 3 days fasts. Then, after some preparation and dieting, I went for a 17 day fast.
    Lack of energy is significant, but other than that everything went well. Afterwards, in 1st days of breaking fast, the energy surge and stamina are incredible. It’s like to go back to early adulthood.
    Now, I keep an habit of fasting 1 day/week.

    Prison hunger strikers can last for months but they typically conserve their energy.

    Yes, but after around 28-30 days, there is a threshold where physical damage starts and it’s quite irreversible. Russian doctors studied extensively this, and the use of fasting as a healing tool. See Yuri Nicolaev, Voytovich and Malakhov.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  330. Sparkon says:

    Your Russkie dogs served Bolsheviks. They did it of their own free will

    Some did; most didn’t. You are simply trying to blame the victims of the Communist revolution and take-over in Russia.

    For all your bitter blather about Russians serving Bolsheviks, you seem blithely unaware of Stalin’s programs to liquidate the Kulaks and NEPmen, who were predominately successful Russian small-scale businessmen, landlords, and entrepreneurs, so of course the Bolshevik thieves wanted all their stuff, and of course as a consequence, some Russians, perhaps many, didn’t like Stalin and the Bolsheviks too much.

    Here’s some of the Bolshevik Gang in 1934.

    (L-R) Lazar Kaganovich (b. 1891, Ukraine), Iosif Stalin (b. Ioseb Besarionis dze Jughashvili, 1878, Georgia), Pavel Postyshev, (b. 1887, Russia), Kliment Voroshilov (b. 1881, Ukraine)
    Photo: Alamy

    Pavel Postyshev had been one of the major players in Ukrainian collectivization, and you may note he was the sole Russian in the photo above showing Stalin’s inner circle, at least one of them.

    Pavel Postyshev was shot in 1937, ostensibly for being a Trotskyite, possibly for developing his own cult of personality, and plausibly for being Russian.

    Just as they taken what they wanted from the Tsar and the Church, the Bolsheviks took everything they could from the Soviet citizens. This wealth was used to help fund the massive Soviet program of industrialization that took place during the 1920s, and military build-up during the 1939s, with much of the infrastructure designed and its construction overseen by Western industrialists such as Henry Ford.

    Not that the Kulaks and NEPmen were alone. In fact, all Soviet citizens suffered and many perished during the brutal collectivization programs that seized their property, possessions and land, resulting in the deaths of millions of Russians, Belorussians, Ukrainians, and Kazakhs, among all Soviet nationalities who suffered at the hands of Stalin and his Bolshevik henchmen, who were little more than gang of murderous thieves hiding behind Marxist-Leninist ideology.

    • Replies: @Towey
  331. Wielgus says:

    I have done a certain amount of fasting and protest hunger striking myself. The worst bit was Day 2. Terrible hunger. After that the system adjusts.

  332. Truthor says:

    Discounting the media frenzy about “nazis” in Ukraine, the Azov Battalion (Azov Special Operations Detachment, also known as the Azov Detachment, Azov Regiment) has held Mariupol against overwhelming Russian aggression since the beginning of the Russian invasion some 20 days ago. They are only 900 men, staunch Ukrainian nationalists who dare to celebrate their ancestors who fought for a free Ukraine against the Soviets. (Actually the Ukrainians fought until 1955 until they were finally pacified.)

    Mariupol is in shambles. More than 1250 civilians have been killed. The city is largely destroyed, as one can see from news photos, yet the Azov Battalion – originally formed of Ukrainian civilians who went to war against Putin and his “little green men” in 2014 and became so effective that they were made part of the Ukrainian National Guard – have bravely held out against seemingly impossible odds. They continue to punch well above their weight, destroying large numbers of Russian equipment and killing Russia’s spec ops soldiers and marines sent against them.

    Azov Battalion is truly an amazing formation which has been fighting for the past 8 years, and continues to hold.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  333. peterAUS says:

    It’s actually a regiment, not a battalion.

    And it’s not just them; there are plenty of other Ukrainian soldiers, well organized and coordinated for the defense of the city.

    The effort has been going well, as expected, taking into account low capabilities of RF armed forces for modern urban warfare.

    And, the attackers aren’t “spec ops soldiers and marines” but LDNR militia.

  334. Corrupt says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Of the two (Socialist Fascists and Communists), the commies seem to do a much better job murdering innocent people.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  335. Towey says:
    @Ann Nonny Mouse

    Well there was the Haavra Accord between Hitler and the Zionists when the German government agreed to subsidize Jewish immigration to British controlled Palestine. If I recall, even lessons in Hebrew were to be paid for. To celebrate the accord they minted a medal or a coin with a star of David on one side and a swastika on the other.

  336. Towey says:

    And without American money the revolution would not have succeeded at all. See Anthony Sutton. Wall St and the Bolshevik Revolution. The Russians were the victims in all this.

    • Agree: annamaria
  337. Sparkon says:

    Yes, Trotsky was Jacob Schiff’s main bagman, but it wasn’t just American money that financed the Russian Revolution.

    … over 21 million rubles were spent by Lord [Alfred] Milner in financing the Russian Revolution… The financier just mentioned was by no means alone among the British to support the Russian revolution with large financial donations.” Another name specifically mentioned by de Goulevitch was that of Sir George Buchanan, the British Ambassador to Russia at the time.

    Caption: This cartoon by Robert Minor appeared in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch in 1911. It shows Karl Marx surrounded by enthusiastic Wall Street financiers: Morgan partner George Perkins, J.P. Morgan, John Ryan of National City Bank, John D. Rockefeller and Andrew Carnegie. Immediately behind Marx is Teddy Roosevelt, leader of the Progressive Party.

    Please see my previous comment, but note the correct, updated link just above here:

  338. @Corrupt

    NO-ONE equals the Anglosphere in genocide.

  339. @Ingrian

    Assholes ,

    Non – Germans , Slavic Untermenschen cannot be `Nazis`.

    I suggest that you move to the Russian paradise , and never return .

  340. @annamaria

    Annamaria ,

    I “love ” your comments – you obviously are insane…get treatment -Liebling !

  341. @cohen

    UNZ Review Comments,

    A platform for pathological Jew-haters…My , my , without all this hate you probably could not live….

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