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After 4 years of the most vicious, hyperbolic and incendiary character assassination campaign in the nation’s history, the media finally claimed its first fatality in a shootout in Portland on Saturday night. The victim–whose name has not yet been disclosed– was shot by an (allegedly) Antifa member who saw the man’s hat as sufficient provocation to gun him down in cold blood. This is the first incident in which the hysteria generated by the media and its accomplices in Democrat party can be directly linked to a political assassination justified on the basis that the victim espoused political beliefs different than those of the perpetrator. Simply put, he was killed because he was identified as a Trump supporter and, thus, “fair game”.

The media has fanned the flames of political hatred and retribution from the very beginning; from advising the public to reject the results of the 2016 elections to openly challenging Trump’s legitimate right to govern the country. They have fueled the animosity towards Trump by denouncing him as a fascist, a racist, a homophobe, a misogynist and a Russian agent. The media has employed all of its prodigious powers of persuasion to relentlessly demonize Trump, and they are responsible for the highly-charged and toxic atmosphere in which a tragedy– like Saturday’s shooting– became unavoidable. They cleared the path for a confrontation in which a self-righteous perpetrator felt entirely-justified in killing an unarmed man whose only crime was that he openly supported the president of the United States. There is no way to overstate the media’s culpability in this shocking incident.

This was not a robbery, a mugging or a clash between gang members. It was a political “hit” executed by a remorseless assassin who believed he was fulfilling his moral obligation by exterminating someone he considered an enemy of humanity. The media is as guilty of this crime as if they had pulled the trigger themselves. The blood is on their hands.

Unsurprisingly, the killer’s colleagues — gathered in downtown Portland for their nightly rioting session– were thrilled to hear the news that a Trump supporter had been shot-dead by one of their own.

“I am not sad that a f—ing fascist died tonight,” a woman barked into a bullhorn at the downtown riot. Her statement was greeted with cheers of enthusiasm from the bloodthirsty crowd.

Earlier in the evening, the group had laid siege to a gas station protected by a frightened owner who was verbally abused and physically threatened for having the audacity to protect his own property. For this, he was spat upon and denounced as a “Nazi”, which is the moniker attached to anyone who doesn’t ascribe to the prevailing anarchist doctrine that all property is a crime and that anyone who defends himself or his belongings is an enemy of the people. Thankfully, the owner was not beaten or killed like the unlucky victim just blocks away who was fatally wounded by a man (allegedly) connected to this same group of cutthroats.

It’s worth noting, that there is evidence that the killing was both intentional and premeditated. Just seconds before the gun was fired, an accomplice, who accompanied the killer said:

“Hey! Hey, we got one right here! We got a Trumper right here!”

(The accomplice’s comment was recorded on Twitter.) His pronouncement was followed immediately by two gunshots which slayed the victim and sent the killer fleeing into the night. As of this writing, the killer is still “at large.” (NOTE– There are many photos of the alleged killer on Twitter who has been identified by his unusual clothes and tattoos. We will not share those photos here since we do not have any corroborating evidence.)

The shooting took place following a long day of counter-protests in which a 600-car pro-Trump caravan drove through downtown Portland touching-off a violent reaction from BLM and Antifa activists. Bags of feces and other projectiles were hurled at the flag-strewn trucks as they slowly wound through the downtown corridor. There were a number of verbal altercations and some physical dust-ups that were not reported in the media but which popped up later on Twitter. These videos provide an instructive seminar on the rapid devolution of a major American city into a dystopian Marxist free-fire zone. Portland –much like its neighbor, Seattle, to the North– has essentially detached from mainland America and become an independent Republic governed by violent extremists, radical ideologues and moonstruck anti-Trump sociopaths all of who are determined to defund the police, eliminate all institutional means for providing security to the public, and establish their own malignant mini-state based on their own skewed version of history. Regrettably, Portland’s liberal mayor and governor have been supportive of this farce from the get-go and continue to reject federal assistance from Trump. They seem to enjoy their role as stewards of thriving American city that is presently descending into anarchy and ruin.

The Democrats continue to believe that they can control these elemental forces of violence and mayhem and use them for their own political advantage in November when (supposedly) these hooligans will put down their Molotov cocktails long enough to vote for Joe Biden, thus, eliminating the threat of a crackdown from Donald Trump.

It could happen, but it seems increasingly unlikely. Saturday’s murder crosses a number of red lines that demand an immediate and heavy-handed response. Something must be done. Without order, there can be no commerce, no security and no civilization. Our streets belong to the American people, not a raucous mob that rules through violence and intimidation. Saturday’s murder underscores the importance of straightening this situation out fast. If the Governor is incapable of preserving the peace, then Trump should.

 
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  1. Today’s Antifa are the spiritual descendants of yesterday’s commies. Unfortunately, America’s insurrection-friendly, liberal media are covering up and enabling BLM/Antifa criminality.

    Below is a rousing, image-rich overview of the historic ties between BLM, Antifa, and Marxist tyranny. It’s a definite ‘Must See’. Please circulate widely.

    https://thuletide.wordpress.com/2020/06/09/blm-antifa-communism/

  2. Escher says:

    This violence is too well-planned and executed to be a a spontaneous uprising.
    Could it even be the Trump team doing it to provoke a backlash from the silent majority against the democrats?

  3. Mostly completely agree with this analysis. It is still possible that this is a false flag, designed to step up the action, create martyrs ala maiden in the ukarane. Odd the lack of witnesses, early to the scene cell phone videos.

  4. Mark Green took the words right off my fingertips, yet I wouldn’t have thought of that great wording “spiritual descendants”. History may not repeat, but is sure seems to rhyme. It’s a century later, and, as Peak Stupidity predicted 3 years back, this is the time when the Commies come crawling out of the woodwork again.

    I don’t agree with the writer here on the very last part only. I don’t think it’s the Feral Government’s job to get involved. It’s all patriotic Americans’ job to get involved, if their city/county/state police have been told to stand down, and are standing down because their jobs are more important than doing the right thing. Guys like the one slain need to be more vigilant, more in numbers, and more armed, in the future. A few more Kyle Rittenhouse’s would put the fear of God into these Commie lowlifes.

    Kyle’s Life Matters!

  5. JimDandy says:

    Is there a legit place to donate to Rittenhhouse’s legal fund?

    • Thanks: Blue Juice
    • Replies: @Oldtradesman
  6. Something very strange is going on. Trump is asking Portland Oregon Mayor Ted Wheeler if he wants help with the National Guard to prevent BLM riots and has said that something very stange is going on with Liberal Mayors denying Federal help by denying calling in the National Guard.

    It is the Governors job to call in the National Guard. The president is not allowed to do that which is why GWB did not call in the National Guard during Katrina. Not because he did not want to, but because he was not able to.

    So why isn’t Trump dealing with the Governors in Oregon it is Kate Brown, younger sister of CA. former Governor Gerry Brown?

    Obviously the police are on a Swedish strike. They show up, but refuse to work because they believe that they should not be criticized for murder, brutality, and rights violations. It is that attitude that is calling on people to defund the police.

    Or show up but just for frivolous handing out of traffic tickets and citations.

    Who wants to pay for that?

    Cities burning and being looted and cops just fly around in helicopters and drive around handing out traffic citations or other victimless crime citations while those that are committing actual crimes against real victims have free reign.

    • Troll: JimDandy
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Ray Caruso
    , @Ash
  7. You don’t have characters showing up night after night nationwide from dusk to dawn creating havoc unless there is a paymaster. National Endowment for Democracy is flush with funds and Nancy Pelosi met with democracy protesters. Could there be another paymaster in the Republican ranks sponsoring unrest for future clamp down OR –is it the Joint effort of the 1% getting their laughs from the plight of the 99% on Main Street?

    • Agree: American Citizen 2.0
  8. Anon[370] • Disclaimer says:

    Mr Whitney ,
    If you cannot or will not find a way to blame zio-jews for everything then we readers will ignore your pablum. This is the Unz review not little miss Muffets story time. Jews control everything and everything is their fault. Simultaneously Whites and Muslims are superior ( while being controlled by Jews despite outnumbering Jews 300-1).

    Dont worry you will catch on eventually. Its not like your IQ is 214.

    • Troll: Anonymousse
    • Replies: @Robjil
    , @Svigor
  9. @Escher

    Kamala Harris stated quite clearly in a TV interview in late June that the “protests” would continue and her face/demeanor indicated that she meant ‘riots’. The Left has instigated this but, I’m thinking it’s likely that Trump has people infiltrated into the Antifa and BLM groups. That would be his style.

    I remain convinced that the astonishing and domino-fashion exposure of the sexual predator ways of titans in media and Hollywood was a Trump production. It started mere months after his inauguration, basically ONE reporter had all the good leads (he was fed them and his work on the topic garnered him a Pulitzer), and the masterstroke was co-opting the already long-existing but barely known, MeToo group, into the mix and letting them run with it and take credit. Fvcking brilliant!

    The Q thing stated that they have been “mapping Antifa leadership” for awhile. That sounds like from the inside to me.

  10. @Achmed E. Newman

    You don’t think it’s the Federal government’s job to suppress domestic insurrection? And what, then, is the job of the general government? I seem to remember Kyle Rittenhouse was charged with murder and attempted murder, which doesn’t sound like a great outcome for him. Is that so supposed to inspire a resistance?

    American Patriots may be inclined to take action, but if that action gets them 400 years in prison while rioters, looters, and vandals walk free, they won’t. Official governments have now openly endorsed this mass organized lawlessness while deliberately and intentionally prosecuting good people and letting criminals go. The State of Oregon is now an unlawful and illegitimate government, and the law-abiding citizens of that territory deserve the help of the government of which they are citizens.

  11. I do not really know. Maybe my estimation that there will not be a civil war in USA is wrong.
    Maybe some blood spilling is inevitable. US is moving toward being ungovernable.
    In my opinion Trump should resign and leave US to its own fate. He cannot do anything anyway.
    Democrats did now declare open war on white people and republicans who are protecting the white people.
    The aggressive blatancy and hypocrisy of Democrats is now in full sight.
    ………………………………………………….
    Trump should let it be and resign!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ………………………………………..
    After all Phoenix can rise only from ashes.

    • Replies: @sally
    , @Colin Wright
  12. Dude’s family needs to sue the City of Portland and the state of Oregon for wrongful death. If they’d fulfilled the most basic duties of any legitimate government to keep the peace, this would not have happened. Instead, the mayor and governor have cynically alowed antifa-BLM to run amuck in anticipation of their increased political support.

    • Agree: Majority of One
    • Replies: @Alden
    , @R.C.
  13. The line got cross a whole lot longer ago in time than just this murder, Mr. Whitney. And are you advocating for martial law…which, of course, will be used against true lovers of liberty and legit protesters and rallies for the restoration of the BILL OF RIGHTS? So you are advocating for a totalitarian police state under the guise of “ending Antifa-BLM riots”?

    Are you that blind that you can’t even see that THE CRIMINAL PSYCHOPATHIC ELITES ARE, AS ALWAYS, PLAYING AND PAYING BOTH SIDES? Perhaps while Soros pays Antifa and BLM thugs, Sheldon Adelson or the Koch Brothers or some billionaire right-winger (they do exist you know) is playing and paying “Proud Boys” or “Blue Lives Matter” or “Unite the Right” or some neo-Nazi and truly white supremacist band of thugs?

    The only “tipping point” is the hatred and divide and conquer is “tipping” this country toward complete slavery for all but the psychos running this show. Wake up, Whitney!

    And, of course, once this happens and everyone is “chipped” with a possible Mark of the Beast, the Chabaders and Talmudists-Kabbalahists of this world will institute their Noahide genocide of true believers on Christ, and enslavement of all gentiles and decent Jews besides.

    • Replies: @Majority of One
  14. TG says:

    “the prevailing anarchist doctrine that all property is a crime” – sorry, you are wrong there.

    The property of Bill Gates is not a crime. The property of Mark Zuckerberg is not a crime. Neither is the property of George Soros. You get the idea. If any third-world refugees were to dare to trespass on the gated estates of these luminaries, they would be rudely forced away, and machine-gunned en masse if necessary. And the journalists of the New York Times would not shed a tear. Believe that.

    No, it is only the property of the working class that is a crime. All property of the working classes must be expropriated by the elites so it can be put to more ‘socially useful’ purposes – such as, making our elites even richer.

    Karl Marx was wrong about most everything, but he was sure right about class war being at the bottom of most of our problems. He must be rolling in his grave, to hear the most vicious anti-worker anti-labor oligarchs in history claim to be working in his name.

    • Agree: nosquat loquat
    • Replies: @Dumbo
    , @Svigor
    , @Curmudgeon
  15. This is another example of Soros’ useful idiots trying to provoke the Deplorables/Proud Boys/ Three percenters/others into a violent reaction. If you examine the circumstances this victim was part of a rally/parade of Trump supporters who were in the wrong place at the wrong time. These (((Marxist)))-funded street thugs are going to be out and about in all of the Blue Hives committing crimes and making trouble. Be smart and keep your distance.
    If you examine the ongoing violence in Seattle, Portland, and the cities where Negro thugs have been shot/killed by cops, the logical solution is to avoid these areas. Stay away from crowds, period. After November 3rd, the fat will be in the fire for real, as neither side will accept the results. Retaliation now would just play into the hands of the MSM, Deep State, and (((others))) who are pulling the strings behind the scenes to bring down the USA.
    It is a shame this man was murdered. He should have never been there in the first place. The young Mr. Rittenhouse, as brave as he was, exercised extremely poor judgement in planning and tactics. And, I speak from my experience as a Viet Nam-era Infantry veteran and retired Peace Officer. Remember the movie: EMEMY AT THE GATES. When the German Officer is asked how he will eliminate the Russian sniper, he says: “…I will let him come to me.” Keep prepping and planning. Let them come to you. You should all have your lists made out of those in your community who share the values of these Marxist murderers. As Vito Corleone said: :Revenge is a dish best supped cold.” Plan accordingly.

  16. Biff says:

    Tipping Point?

    If the tipping point was twenty yards away this incident moved it up by nineteen and a half.

  17. Richard B says:

    Saturday’s murder crosses a number of red lines that demand an immediate and heavy-handed response.

    Agreed.

    But from who?

    President Kushner?

    Don’t hold your breath.

    • Agree: Twodees Partain
    • LOL: Trinity
    • Replies: @Trinity
  18. The media has done everything to promote hatred of Trump. It has blood on its hands.

    • Agree: jsinton, American Citizen 2.0
    • Replies: @Haxo Angmark
  19. He and his friends went to Portland bear spraying protesters and shooting ball bearings at them out of the back of pickup trucks. He harrassed the wrong guy and learned the lesson of a lifetime.

    Good riddance to cracker rubbish.

    • Replies: @Emslander
  20. @Achmed E. Newman

    17 year old kids should not have to be defending our country when we pay taxes for our leadership and police to keep us safe.

    Antifa/BLM are supported by elements in the government; DNC/ADL/SPLC/FBI, etc.

    Trump calculated correctly that people would blame the left (and the riots surely are the fault of the left) but look at the destruction and loss of life.

    IMHO, Trump should have set the dogs loose on those scumbags on day one because they call him racist Hitler anyway.

    You have to figure this shit is happening because the small hats want it to happen. The Feds were happy to use the military to force integration or shoot Vietnam protesters…..but suddenly now we’re told, “Oh! Trump can’t do anything! His hands are tied! It’s the fault of the Democrat mayors and governors!”

    Notice that under Trump anarcho-tyranny has been implemented. The covid scam was allowed to go down. The riots are permitted. All of this has the fingerprints of the small hats. Notice that nothing good ever happens for whites unless it’s a fluke…..the normal course of events is a steady march toward white genocide.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  21. Richard B says:
    @mark green

    Today’s Antifa are the spiritual descendants of yesterday’s commies.

    There’s nothing spiritual about these people.

    They’re materialists, which is the opposite of spiritual.

    They’re certainly a continuation of communism. But that’s not news.

    I think the important point is, what are we going to do?

    I’d love to be wrong. But, in the end, this incident and the lack of response from the hostile elite will simply reinforce something else we already know.

    The DNC = Demonic Narcissistic Communists

    The RNC = Really Never Cared (leadership) and Repressed Neo Cucks (base)

  22. mike99588 says:

    Clearly, there are sponsors that hope to provoke violence and to promote authoritarian backlash, that can later be misused against law abiding citizen, with further abuses beyond today’s level of abuse. We do not need new laws, we do not need new powers. Rather we need less interference and more honest performance.

    Commie/liberal”/”Obamunist” Governors, mayors, DAs, judges are on a strike – on strike not doing their real job, and striking at citizens attempting to protect themselves, family and friends.

    Crimes need to be correctly identified and prosecuted impartially. Criminals need to be dealt with timely and effectively. We have a total failure, often deliberate, to deal with multitudinous BLM and antifa crimes because of criminal, politically motivated “public officials”, who need to be removed.

    • Agree: Majority of One
  23. Wally says:
    @Escher

    Since when hasn’t Communism been “well-planned”?

    Your Trump team thing is desperate.

    As an aside:
    LeBron James Is A Bigot, by black man Jason Whitlock:
    https://www.outkick.com/whitlock-lebron-james-is-a-bigot/

  24. It appears that a Hero, a modern day Rambo has appeared to teach Chaim’s pet whites a lesson:

    https://www.rt.com/usa/499479-shooting-trump-rally-woodland-hills/

    May God keep him safe and elevate his score.

    • Troll: GeneralRipper
  25. This is the first incident in which the hysteria generated by the media and its accomplices in Democrat party can be directly linked to a political assassination justified on the basis that the victim espoused political beliefs different than those of the perpetrator.

    Actrually, that line was crossed more than three years ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_shooting

  26. Abbybwood says:

    Black Trump supporter “Raz” Trammel from Milwaukee was murdered while sitting outside his shop in broad daylight this past July. He had many pro-Trump signs in the windows of his shop:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kltv.com/2020/07/29/black-trump-supporter-fatally-shot-outside-his-milwaukee-business/%3foutputType=amp

    The murderer rode by on a bike and shot Mr. Trammel and is still at-large.

    Obviously until the murderer is apprehended and questioned no one will know for certain that the reason Mr. Trammel was murdered was because he was a Black Trump supporter, but it certainly is a very good possibility.

  27. @Escher

    This violence is too well-planned and executed…

    Could it even be the Trump team doing it…

    Good planning is not a hallmark of “the Trump team”. They were flying by the seat of their pants in 2016, and continue to do so today.

    But they’re the one-eyed man in the land of the blind, which explains their successes, limited as they may be.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  28. EL PMIS says:

    denouncing as fascist.. etc
    No. Not at all. You guys desperately needs to understand what that is.

    When a group surrounds you to scream epiteths, its not about denouncing or denigrating. Its to dehumanize (see soldiers deliberately missing in vietnam) and above all to fire up themselves for a kill.

    What that is in other words is a preparation for murder, and the moment the words begin its a license to self defend with lethal force against everyone iin the group.
    Just read the turner diaries, specifically the day of the rope.

    Or familiarize yourself with why the soldiers missed and the whole underlying psychology of that.

  29. GMC says:

    Where is the Commander of the National Guard of Oregon. or State Militia. ? The Governor and Mayor should be removed because of dereliction of duty or simply bought off , or threatened -it doesn’t matter which one. LOL It’s OK to send the NGers to Iraq, Afghanistan or some other place around the world, but – when their own Cities are on fire – just stand down and watch the show. Yep, sounds like another paid for False Flag gone live. That 17 yr old kid in Kenosha, made most of the Law Enforcement agencies and John Q Public , look pretty – chicken shit.

  30. Looks like the “Patriots”, putative brothers of the haplograph, are at it again, this time shooting up the homes of the only Black homeowners in a white Portland neighborhood:

    Hopefully some good citizen will humanely euthanize these savage golems before they harm some innocent people.

    • Troll: GeneralRipper
    • Replies: @nokangaroos
    , @annamaria
  31. Funny that when a some fat high school dropout sprays unarmed protesters in a panic with his AR, it is a heroic act, with the fat kid glorified as a new “John Wick” worthy of marriage to Ann Coulter.

    But when a violent trumptard gets shot after his micropenis President incites and encourages further violence, then some snowflake white supremacists get their panties in a twist and whine for a “heavy handed response” and fantasize that this is a “turning point”.

    So maybe BLM supporters shd glorify the trumptard’s shooter as another John Wick also?

    These white supremacist snowflakes can dish it out, but they can’t take it. They really aren’t any different from the violent, crazy blacks they mock and criticize all the time.

    In the eyes of the rest of the world, fat Kyle Rittenmouse the high school dropout and girl-beater is no different from Jamal the urban pimp beating up his whores when they can’t bring in the last \$50.

    If micropenis Trump gets 4 more years, I expect to see even more riots and even more shootings. Trump obviously thinks this fighting will solidify his base or even get him more support. There’s no reason for him to stop it and from his viewpoint every reason to encourage it.

  32. If the identity of the assassin is known, and the legal system, under the same control as the failing city government, makes no moves against him, then another “rubicon” has been crossed, and the legitimacy of the entire edifice is at risk. The implications are discussed above in Achmed E. Neuman’s comment.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  33. @Escher

    I guess at this point we cannot rule out anything.
    What can be said with reasonable certainty is whoever is behind this wants us to flip out – which is sufficient reason not to.
    (I know Musashi put it more elegantly; go sue me.)

    • Replies: @Ugetit
  34. Anonymous[146] • Disclaimer says:
    @No Friend Of The Devil

    It is the Governors job to call in the National Guard. The president is not allowed to do that which is why GWB did not call in the National Guard during Katrina. Not because he did not want to, but because he was not able to.

    Presidents federalize the Guard whenever they feel like it, with one distinct proviso: they must have the ruling class and their mass media behind them.

    That’s what Mr. Trump is lacking, and with a vengeance.

    • Replies: @Tom Verso
  35. jsinton says:

    My fear is that all the unrest and mayhem will be used as a pretext to declare martial law and totally suspend all constitutional protections. You WILL submit to vaccination or you will be executed, etc.

    • Agree: Ugetit
    • Replies: @SC Rebel
  36. Franz says:

    “…prosecutors contended that Streicher’s articles and speeches were so incendiary that he was an accessory to murder…” — wiki, Julius Streicher

    That was the conclusion of the prosecutors who sentenced him to death at Nuremberg. He wrote and published a newspaper. That was it. But if incendiary speech then made him accessory to murder and our own press is now even worse, why can’t The New York Times, etc., see the precedent?

    For years the press has been on an unabated anti-white rant. Maybe the 1619 Project was the last straw. But then again, it’s really been going on since the end of World War II which was the true Tipping Point. Our media is unintentionally proving Streicher might have been right after all and Victor’s Justice was only another day in Portland.

    Most of the World War II generation is gone now. Time for the truth. Because every day in the streets of our cities it’s being made obvious that our veterans fought on the wrong side.

  37. gotmituns says:

    Get into a good position, control your breathing, bring sights on six o’clock bull, take up trigger slack, let the round go at exactly the right moment – one round, one hit. That’s all anyone must know now. Oh yeah, pick your side.

  38. Something must be done. Without order, there can be no commerce, no security and no civilization.

    Too true.
    Most leftists. progressives and “liberals” don’t seem to agree. They want to use this for their own purposes, regardless of the mayhem caused. Worse than that, they are facilitating and funding these bandits.
    As you say, this may be the tipping point. The Reaction, when it comes, will be severe. Often as not, some of the innocent may suffer as well as the guilty.

    • Replies: @Ugetit
  39. Robjil says:
    @Anon

    It brainwashing by Zion MSM 24/7 spouting Zion divide and conquer BS. Six corporations own 90 percent of the world’s MSM. All of them are controlled by Zionists.

    These “rebellions” are Zion MSM Zombie Lemmings. They have no clue what they are doing at all or why. They await whatever BS comes for Zion MSM to decide what to do next.

    It is Zion after all. Zion MSM never allows free and open discussions on big or small issues.

    • Agree: Ugetit
  40. Dumbo says:
    @TG

    He must be rolling in his grave, to hear the most vicious anti-worker anti-labor oligarchs in history claim to be working in his name.

    Nah, Marx “Mordecai” was in on it. A Rothschild’s cousin would not know it? Puh-leeze.

    The property of Bill Gates is not a crime. The property of Mark Zuckerberg is not a crime. Neither is the property of George Soros. You get the idea

    Yep, they want to expropriate the middle class’ property and take it for themselves. So there will remain only the ultra-rich and the propertyless totally State-dependent paupers. All in the name of “equality” or whatever.

    • Agree: Ugetit
  41. If the Governor is incapable of preserving the peace, then Trump should.

    Somebody in elective office should, or they’ll face a serious question of legitimacy as the lose what is left of the consent of the governed.

  42. Art says:

    Drudge — FAKE NEWS!

    “BIDEN: TRUMP ENCOURAGING VIOLENCE”

    Here is an actual headline that conveys the facts – not the politics.

    “Biden voter assassinates Trump voter.”

    Once again as always, the Jew media misleads America. Drudge will fool millions of voters.

    We must get our country back from the Jews.

    • Replies: @Johnny Smoggins
  43. “This is the first incident in which the hysteria generated by the media and its accomplices in Democrat party can be directly linked to a political assassination justified on the basis that the victim espoused political beliefs different than those of the perpetrator.”

    No, actually, the first incident goes way back over three years ago to June 2017. That’s when James Hodgkinson, a Bernie supporter and Rachael Maddow fan, was taking target practice at a dozen or so Republican congressmen at their baseball game. Well, ok, “attempted political assassination.” You’ll recall, well, you won’t recall, because the MSM and the Democrats chased that assassination attempt out of the news cycle quicker than you could say Black Lives Matter. All of that was at a time when Hollywood celebs were doing tyrannicide-ala-Trump vignettes and the Democrats were calling him Hitler whenever they had a microphone in front of them.

  44. onebornfree says: • Website

    “If the Governor is incapable of preserving the peace, then Trump should.”

    And so, [even more, bigger] “government to the rescue”, right?

    Yeah, right. This just in:

    Government “solutions” [almost invariably to problems it has caused in the first place], never work, and only create even bigger/worse problems.

    So even if it is “constitutionally correct and legal” for Trump to stick the Fed’s dick into this situation [lets pretend it is], the fact of the matter is that the inevitable repercussions of his so doing will make the situation even worse than it already is. Far worse.

    If you think the Oregon government’s handling of the situation is bad [which it is, naturally], and you are stupid enough to believe that the Feds will make everything better somehow, “you ain’t seen nothing yet” .

    Simply stated : GOVERNMENT “SOLUTIONS” NEVER WORK!

    What this country needs right now is much _less_ government, not more “government solutions”, fer chrissakes!

    “Government is a disease masquerading as its own cure” Robert LeFevere

    “The kind of man who wants the government to adopt and enforce his ideas is always the kind of man whose ideas are idiotic” H.L.Mencken

    “Why Government Doesn’t Work” [pdf available here]:
    https://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Why_Government_Doesn%27t_Work

    See: “You, Trump Etc Versus “Dictator Syndrome”:
    http://onebornfree-mythbusters.blogspot.com/2015/08/do-you-suffer-from-dictator-syndrome.html

    “Regards” onebornfree

  45. @JimDandy

    Authorized by Kyle Rittenhouse’s family:

    https://fightback.law/

    Scroll to bottom of page and kick in \$20 for Kyle.

  46. “Our streets belong to the American people, not a raucous mob that rules through violence and intimidation. Saturday’s murder underscores the importance of straightening this situation out fast. If the Governor is incapable of preserving the peace, then Trump should.”

    I hate to tell you this, Mike, but that ship has sailed a long time ago. The Democrats don’t care about any streets other than the ones in their gated, armed-guard-protected communities, and the Republicans can’t contain their sympathies for black thugs like George Floyd and the Kenosha rapist. Did you watch the Republican convention? Trump, giving the finger to the cops who are trying to keep the streets safe, wants to meet with the family of Jacob Blake, yet another black criminal whose resisting arrest antics lead to mass rioting. No mention of Kyle Rittenhouse, who was actually trying to keep the streets in the possession of the American people.

    Wait until November, then we’ll all see just who the streets belong to. I don’t think you are going to like it.

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
    • Replies: @Ray Huffman
  47. @Biff

    “I’m Jewish”

    No sh!t? Really? We would never have guessed it.

    Let’s see.

    (1) Assigns herself the role of Protector of Morals.

    (2) Loud and obnoxious.

    (3) Labels a reasonable citizen who is engaged in free expression of their political preferences a “Nazi”.

    (4) Believes that her being Jewish exempts her from being judged by her inferiors, white Euros. She has, after all, earned the right through her people’s sufferink.

    (5) Gives herself a get out of jail free card to destroy other people’s property.

    (6) She will decide what may and may not appear in the public space.

    Yup, she’s Jewish. Cluelessly, incapable of introspectionly, dishonestly Jewish.

    • Replies: @Richard B
  48. Anonymous[661] • Disclaimer says:
    @Franz

    “Most of the World War II generation is gone now. Time for the truth. Because every day in the streets of our cities it’s being made obvious that our veterans fought on the wrong side.”

    Excellent points, Franz. Even General Patton, according to his own journals and letters, would have heartily agreed with you.

  49. Oh well, it had to come to this eventually…

    Practical note on how to deal with rioters, looters and shooters:

    4-buck at knee-cap altitude.

    A 12-gauge pump action shotgun loaded with 4-buck, fired towards the knee-caps, usually scatters the looters and shooters and allows them to weasel away to complain and riot another day.

    Or maybe not. What stupid ass looter is going to report the shooting at the local Police station?

    (I swear to God officer, I was just doing some peaceful looting, stealing and protesting against Police brutality, systemic racism and stuff and I was just shot by this brutal neo-nazi hillbilly Trump-supporter and shit, and I want him totally arrested and stuff…)

    Ain’t going to happen, and problem solved.

    However, be very careful with double 00 buck as it carries a whole lot more criminal liability with it, the looter being more likely to die on the scene. And as always, there is an ambulance chasing lawyer attached to every bullet!

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  50. Ugetit says:
    @nokangaroos

    What can be said with reasonable certainty is whoever is behind this wants us to flip out – which is sufficient reason not to.

    You get it.

    I did a search for Musashi, but I don’t know what you’re referring to. Was it something Sun Tzu-like?

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
  51. Ugetit says:
    @Franz

    Because every day in the streets of our cities it’s being made obvious that our veterans fought on the wrong side.

    Correct. As in Generals Patton and Butler correct, but despite the fact that the “Greatest” Generation is pretty much extinct now, the old war time propaganda lives on, unfortunately.

  52. @GreatSocialist

    I do not understand the BLM.
    Only in Chicago on the average at least 10 black people including women and children are killed by blacks. Here BLM do not care. If once in the moon policeman accidentally kilts some black criminal than all demonstrations starts.
    In my opinion this is typical hypocrisy.
    Blacks are only looking for justification to loot.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  53. @Thomas More

    You don’t think it’s the Federal government’s job to suppress domestic insurrection? And what, then, is the job of the general government?

    There really aren’t a lot of jobs that the Federal Gov’t is supposed to do in the first place, Mr. More, were it run per the US Constitution. A common defense (Note to Neocons: not a common offense!) is one. Suppressing domestic insurrections against the Constitution/Federal Gov. would be another. I could see Mr. Trump calling out troops to fire tear gas, rubber bullets, and an occasional accidental real one on antifa Commies destroying Federal property or coming up the Capitol steps (though I’d really like to see the latter).

    I seem to remember Kyle Rittenhouse was charged with murder and attempted murder, which doesn’t sound like a great outcome for him. Is that so supposed to inspire a resistance?

    Right, it’s not a great outcome. However, it’s for the people of Kenosha or Wisconsin in general to do what they can to help Mr. Rittenhouse get justice. No, he should never have gotten charged in the first place, no matter what the political fallout. It’s about doing what is right. Most people won’t do what’s right, under pressure.

    The point I was making above though, Mr. More, is that there’s great power in numbers. They cannot easily arrest 200 or 1,000 patriots defending the streets, and it just takes a few brave ones to enable more with not as much courage to come out. If there are 200 arrested, how many friends and family will be down at the courthouse to raise hell?

    It’s time for the right to learn a thing or two from the turmoil of the 1960s, not necessarily the politics, but the tactics. Peak Stupidity discussed all this 3 years ago, after Charlottesville, in “There’s Battle Lines Being Drawn”Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5, and Part 6.

  54. BaddyBone says:

    The Q thing stated that they have been “mapping Antifa leadership” for awhile. That sounds like from the inside to me.

    Please, cut the Q-shit. Years of University indoctrination has created lone wolf Marxists who are now finding a sense of “belonging.” They are destroying every moment of the present because they don’t see any future.

  55. Ugetit says:
    @Verymuchalive

    The Reaction, when it comes, will be severe. Often as not, some of the innocent may suffer as well as the guilty.

    That’s exactly correct and it’s exactly what our moneybag rulers are counting on. Unfortunately the process is probably inevitable before the good guys exhaust themselves and we get saddled with something worse. Getting rid of that will take generations before the cycle starts anew.

    Also, the innocent are destined suffer en masse, as usual, but the guilty few intend to end up owning it all and will generally range free, as usual. After all what’s a “justice” system (that they control) for?

  56. 1. as the first few paragraphs illustrate, the unceasing, UNIVERSAL condemnation of the bad orange man is ONE of the main pieces of circumstantial evidence that tee-rump DOES have real intentions of ‘draining the swamp’ in some fashion, if not exploding the whole pedo-elite cabal…
    2. further, that MOST of the rethugs, never trumpers, rinos, etc are sitting on their hands NO MATTER HOW EGREGIOUS the attacks on trump, only reinforces this thinking, in that there are no doubt plenty of rethugs who are enthralled to the pedo-elites…
    3. it is NOT what tee-rump has or hasn’t done, it is NOT what rethugs in genl have or haven’t done, it is MOSTLY all the astounding, unprecdented moves the dem’rats (w complicit rethugs) are taking to -apparently- forestall a tee-rump victory and theoretical pedo-elite purge: empty impeachment attempts, cliton cabal stay-behinds sabotaging trump admin efforts, legal hounding of trump cohorts by the (in)justice dept, the full-spectrum deep state pre and post election interference cum coup, the pre-planned mexican beer panic propaganda, lockdown and PURPOSEFUL crashing of the world’s economy, and finally the guided insurrection by the soros / cliton / gates cabal to instill chaos to blame on the bad orange man…
    THAT level of desperation: um, DESTROYING the planet in order to save their own useless hides, indicates to me that there is SOMETHING to tee-rump’s threat to drain the swamp…
    …and i NEVER needed no steenking Qanon to tell me the name of that tune…
    4. lifelong dem’rat / libtard… STILL believe in the progressive principles i was raised with, just that the dem’rats and nominal liberals have abandoned all principles… i have had to abandon the dem’rats…
    technically registered as a green party member, but that is mostly just because i can’t abide the two faces of the same korporate money party… for the first time in my life, i am going to not only vote for a rethug, but the worst rethug in the his story of the world, donald j trump… i am ONLY voting for other offices for rethugs who EXPLICITLY support the donald… otherwise, no vote…
    .
    IF DJT turns out to be one big psyop and not our last chance to throw off the shackles of the pedo-elite Empire, then my AR can just as easily turn around and point the other direction…
    just sayin’…

    • Replies: @Sgt Grumble
    , @Realist
  57. DaveE says:
    @Escher

    Could it even be the Trump team doing it to provoke a backlash from the silent majority against the democrats?

    If, by the term “Trump Team” you mean the Jewish contingent of the GOP, then yes, this may be just another Jewish infil-traition operation to keep the violence a’ rollin’.

    When they don’t get their way directly, the Jewish modus operandi is always to create division and antagonize both sides against each other.

    “Practice makes perfect” – and man do they ever practice the dark arts of subversion.

  58. @Robert Dolan

    You are right about the anarcho-tyranny, Mr. Dolan. Let me address one of your latter points first: Were I alive and in close to the political mindframe I am in (one could go back 25 years at least), I’d have been with the people of Little Rock, Arkansas regarding the sending of Feral troops – dead set against it, that is.

    I also agree that it wouldn’t hurt Trump any to go do it. You are right that you don’t let your desire to get along with the left guide you. It’s not right, for one thing, and yes, they will hate you anyway.

    Antifa/BLM are supported by elements in the government; DNC/ADL/SPLC/FBI, etc.

    How about I just write about the FBI, and the DOJ, which it operates under. If Trump wasn’t such a dumbass (sometimes), he would have hired a guy on HIS/OUR SIDE to run it, who would clean house and arrange whatever prosecutions are legal against some of these people. Believe you me, I’m sure they could find a lot of them. (That’s not to mention the cases against Big-Data.) Instead, he’s got people dead set against him and us. Stupid, stupid, stupid …

    The other groups are not (officially) part of the US Feral Gov’t, but yes, if your point is that they workd with it and get money for it, that should have been stopped.

    17 year old kids should not have to be defending our country when we pay taxes for our leadership and police to keep us safe.

    How old do you think most of the colonists/Americans fighting the Revolution or War of Northern Aggression were? Most of them weren’t that much older. Whether you pay taxes or not, the whole Establishment is hard-left now, Mr. Dolan. The Long March through the Institutions was successful. They are not on our side, and we can’t depend on them. As Michelle Malkin related from being there, and Peak Stupidity discussed in “Anarcho-Tyranny at the Support-the-Police rally. We’re finally on our own.”, ironically, even at a rally in support of the “LEOs”*, the cops stood down when Michelle and her crowd were attacked.

    Though he may be still kind of a good rallying cry, we can’t depend on that one bullshitter in the White House. We are on our own now, and the sooner we realize that, the better.

    .

    * I HATE that term.

    • Replies: @Emslander
  59. Tom Verso says:
    @Anonymous

    Thanks!
    I was also wondering about the President’s offer for the National Guard. Presumably he is implying: if the governor won’t help the city than he can override the governor.

  60. @Thomas More

    Mr. More, I meant to add, regarding my point about strength in numbers, that I saw this at the huge gun rights rally in Richmond, Virginia this January. Yeah, I was there, and here are two reports: “There’s great power in numbers – Case study: Richmond, Virginia” and “Richmond gun rally – a lesson about ignoring the narrative”.

    There must have been 20 to 40 thousand people there, most of the armed. There was absolutely no trouble whatsoever.

  61. Maybe. It even comes with its own lone gunman/family black sheep, with a commie power fist neck tat: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/portland-police-investigate-100-antifa-suspect-identified-4chan-hours-after-shooting

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/53-admitted-false-flag-attacks/5432931

    Soros funds and probably will make a killing investing in the rebuilding “smart” cities, as Agendas 21 and 2030 continue to be implemented: https://www.technocracy.news/?s=agenda+21

    The Terror Factory: Inside the FBI’s Manufactured War on Terrorism
    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13591775-the-terror-factory

    (OOPS! This comment was to be a reply to comment #3 above, commenter “North Cascadian”. HAL 9000 hiccupped – or my caffeine levels are off.)

  62. Emslander says:
    @TimeTraveller

    Good riddance to cracker rubbish.

    It’s good you show up here to illustrate Mr. Whitney’s central argument. Normal, middle of the road, political thinking will get you killed now in many parts of our great and free democratic nation.

  63. @Ugetit

    Gorin-no-Sho, or The Book of Five Rings 😉

  64. BuelahMan says:

    The final jewish wealth theft is under way and Trump is leading them as their hammer. BLM/Antifa, etc are basically the fake oppositions’ army. But make no mistake about it, Trump is up to his eyeballs in this jewish activity, especially the theft of our wealth.

    • Agree: nokangaroos, DaveE
    • Replies: @Ugetit
  65. MLK says:

    We’ve had innumerable tipping points since election night 2016, some of the principal ones of which you mention or allude.

    They all failed to wake mainstream and even prestige media from fueling the madness. An incident without any violence is emblematic — the treatment of Nick Sandmann. If you’re going after a child like this then you’ve surely lost the plot. You should give up your position, dig up some worms and go fishing, so you can rethink your life.

    The same principle is contained in the Kenosha incident involving Kyle Rittenhouse. Am I the only one to have noticed that the now available facts surrounding it lead to the clear conclusion that he was targeted by a registered sexual offender and other men with violent criminal records?

    Needless to say, it thankfully didn’t work out the way they intended. Worse for the Democrats and their Antifa Brown Shirts, the charging of the intended victim with murder will bring some sunlight to the organizational structure and shot callers involved. Unless I miss my mark, teenage Kyle was identified earlier on that fateful day to send a clear message about what happens to young people who are ‘on the wrong side of history.’

    Hopefully the tipping point we’ve reached is the “Antifa is a myth” lie.

    I abhor the hoary “unacceptable,” said by those who have and will continue to cravenly accept pretty much anything if it’s in their interest to do so. Instead, the entire situation, not the least the media’s reckless role in amping it up, is untenable. As untenable as the just exited CIA Director Brennan given a perch on MSNBC to declare the duly elected POTUS “treasonous” and call repeatedly for a coup.

    There’s so much going on the following passed with little notice but it’s only the beginning of the reckoning that’s coming for major media:

    https://jonathanturley.org/2020/08/29/federal-court-rules-in-favor-of-sarah-palins-defamation-lawsuit-against-the-new-york-times/

    This is just the tip of the iceberg in that the legal jeopardy is in the form of liability for civil damages. These media behemoths seem hellbent to by themselves some criminal liability before we get to the other side of this.

  66. Anybody knows what is precise and concise definition of racial justice?

    • Replies: @SC Rebel
    , @Erostratus
  67. Gunga Din says:
    @Biff

    “I’m jewish!” LOL! EFT.

  68. Another pudgy, corn-fed altrighter. I have said this many a time: if the militia were all attractive chads with Instagram accounts, your women would follow. Unfortunately, all your martyrs, legal and real ones, look like blobs. In that case, the baying mob of millennial and late gen-X white females will follow the herd of celebrities.

    And with no institutions on your side, there’s no Jacques-Louis David to make a Five-Foot Two Corsican look like Charlemagne.

    Hit the gym before you go on your cuck rides.

    • Troll: West reanimator
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @Dumbo
  69. fnn says:
    @GreatSocialist

    You must be paid by the FBI to write this shit.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  70. “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That, whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.
    Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and, accordingly, all experience has shown, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
    But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.

    • Thanks: Onan the Barbarian
  71. haha says:
    @GreatSocialist

    “Funny that when a some fat high school dropout sprays unarmed protesters in a panic ”

    Unarmed protesters? Unarmed?? Are you willfully blind or completely detached from truth and reality? One of the “unarmed protesters” shot by the kid was carrying a handgun and the mob was chasing him and calling out for his murder.

    “Snowflake white supremacists”? The snowflakes are on full display on the libtard side, crying out for protection from microaggressions. Now you get your damned gender reassignment surgery done, put on your pussy hat, and go marching “peacefully” setting some “peaceful” fires and fighting “peacefully”. But be prepared for normal people to call you out for what you and your ilk truly are: Spoilt brats, thugs and lunatics who should have been put down a long time ago.

  72. Hibernian says:
    @GreatSocialist

    You are neither Socialist (try Communist) nor great (to say the least.)

  73. sally says:
    @mark green

    The problem is bifucation, not 92% owned private media demonization.. Trump has not done what trump promised those who voted for him.. He should not be allowed another term.. but the Reputaturds can’t find a better person.. (what a sad commentary) .. the choice between Trump and Biden is the choice between being eaten alive by a python or lion.

    The two party system has divided America, just as the Gun/no Gun issue, and Abortion/no Abortion, free school lunch/ starve to death narratives have done. No American can fix these things, because the constitution of those who govern, does not allow governed Americans to fix things. only a vote by the 527 elected, salaried, no count persons who populate congress and the white house can fix these kinds of problems. So I say the problem is not in the media, not in the congress, but in the constitution.

    Yes the privately owned media has fueled those fires, but the truth is your reputaturd government did not restore must carry rules, so I blame one sided media power on the government itself, Trump had charge of the government for four years and did nothing about the media<= owned 92% by 6 private persons worldwide. .. . so why should I care if one of his booster club members got his head blown off, for tooting a Trump horn at at a Biden rally. Trump don't care, why should I..

    Trump's refusal to fix unfairness may lead to his own demise.. Refusal to fix is exactly what happened to the Czar in Russia when Lenin and Trotsky Commies including 274 NYC citizens took jobs in the cummunist revolutionary government Russia in October, 1919. The same is about to happen in the USA governed America. unless the American people rise to stop it. which they won't.. they will wait to complain until it is common for their son or next door neighbor to permanently disappear in the middle of the night as happened to 32 million White Russian Ukraines between 1919 and 1932.

    • Agree: GMC
  74. Yet another ignorant right wing Amerikastani which couldn’t define a Marxist to save its life but which, like almost all of its fellows, uses “communist” and “Marxist” to mean “anything we don’t understand and don’t like”.

    • Agree: vot tak
    • Troll: Richard B
    • Replies: @Richard B
    , @Reg Cæsar
  75. @Achmed E. Newman

    “A few more Kyle Rittenhouse’s would put the fear of God into these Commie lowlifes.”

    I would agree with the assessment, however, I feel that a seventeen years old boy was sent out to do a man’s job … where are the adults?

    • Agree: GMC
    • Replies: @V. K. Ovelund
  76. Step back and dispassionately look at the situation unfolding in the riot torn cities.

    You have two groups of idiots, pro and anti Trump, causing all manner of mayhem. The anti forces are encouraged by the Dems, probably directly with funding and strategically placed bricks to be used as hand launched missiles. The other side is not as well organized and doesn’t seem to have any direct support from the Repubs. What they have in common is that they are dumb as a box of rocks and hell bent on ratcheting up the violence and property destruction.

    When the pro forces show up wearing MAGA hats and waving flags, they know that’s like a red cape to a bull, so they do it as an incitement. They got their wish. You can’t fix stupid.

    Let’s step back even further and look at the entire population of the country. What I see are two camps that hate each other and want to win some bullshit election. Each side is rooting for their team of idiots so stupid that they voluntarily enter a mini war zone to show off their gang colors.

    Now tell me that my description isn’t just as accurate as those claiming that antifa and blm are fighting racism and fascism and are the good guys while their opponents are there to protect property and support truth, justice and the American way. Bullshit on both sides.

    That the love of gov’t and its murderous regimes is so strong that people will risk death and maiming to support the ludicrous concept is mindbogglingly stupid. That’s the majority of the US population.

    • Troll: Hippopotamusdrome
    • Replies: @onebornfree
    , @Svigor
    , @Poco
  77. PhilK says:
    @GreatSocialist

    Fear not, Democrats !!!

    Team JoHo’s finest minds are at work on your behalf.

  78. @North Cascadian

    It is still possible that this is a false flag, designed to step up the action, create martyrs ala maiden in the ukarane. Odd the lack of witnesses, early to the scene cell phone videos.

    Touché ….. Quote from Karl Rove, one of the stanchest Republican ever known:

    “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors … and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”
    — Karl Rove

    Kind regards,

    Mohamed

    • Replies: @anon
  79. Realist says:

    What Trump says or doesn’t say in Kenosha, tomorrow, will be telling.

    • Agree: Emslander
  80. Ma Laoshi says:

    All nice and well, except for the part where many of those decrying the mayhem now were all for it when Trump unleashed it on Hong Kong (not talking about Mr. Whitney personally here; e.g., Paul Joseph Watson comes to mind). As it is said in the Skyrim game, “Justice may be harsh, but it is still justice.”

    • Replies: @Parsnipitous
  81. @Reg Cæsar

    To my mind, an example of poor planning happened when the crowd leaving Mr. Trump’s over-long acceptance speech left the White House grounds late at night. They were immediately set upon, heckled and intimidated by the anarchists, with Rand Paul and his wife in grave danger, with only a policeman with a bicycle holding the mob off.

    Security knew there was a large mob outside, which was trying to disrupt Trump’s speech. Yet nothing was done to protect the attendees as they exited. Trump’s team knew that Mayor Bowser is an enemy, who would do nothing to protect Trump supporters. Yet, why didn’t they plan for it?

    I hope their lack of planning was not deliberate and designed to help them politically, but, if not deliberate, it certainly seems to be incompetence. The optics of a hundred anarchists attacking a US Senator and his wife makes the leftist democrats who have enabled them look very bad. But, the fault here lies, not with the overmatched DC police, but with the federal officials responsible for ensuring security.

    • Replies: @V. K. Ovelund
    , @Getaclue
  82. @Art

    Drudge has found his inner Jew and is now all in with the anti White and pro globohomo program.

    A much better conservative news aggregator is here, kind of like Drudge from 10 years ago

    https://therightnews.ca/

  83. Svigor says:
    @Anon

    Can you kikes please have mercy and come up with some new boilerplate? This ham-handed sarcasm about jevvs controlling everything down to the weather is really tired, shopworn, and unfunny.

    I thought you lot were supposed to be smart and funny? So why are your comments so stupid and unfunny?

  84. @Supply and Demand

    OK, we get it, S&D, you’re gay, and you’re only interested in watching this news if it helps you to wank off. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

    [MORE]

    No, of course not!

    • Replies: @Supply and Demand
  85. Svigor says:
    @TG

    Not really. The (((oligarchs))) are all too eager to jam people of disparate languages, races, ethnicities, cultures, nationalities and religions (in other words, tribes) into one polity because it destroys worker solidarity. Their being all the same class amounts to jack shit.

    It’s a national/racial struggle, always has been. Class is a divider within tribes, but people cross it much more readily than they cross group lines.

    There’s a reason the (((oligarchs))) bombard Whites with anti-White, anti-White-consciousness propaganda 24/7/365, and not anti-class-solidarity propaganda; because the former are enormous threats to them, and the latter is no threat at all. And for the same reason, (((they))) bombard us all with blackness and pro-black propaganda.

    Furthermore, (((they))) have no problem with blegs’ property, working class or not. Of course, you could say that Marxists don’t categorize blacks as working class, but then you’re just making my argument for me.

    Communists ideology has its good points (e.g., the concept of false consciousness, boy is that ever on the mark), but you haven’t fingered them.

    If anything, commies’ class rhetoric is designed to dissolve tribal loyalties and reduce men to individual economic units; i.e., to destroy human solidarity and empower the ruling class; just a new (((ruling class))) to replace the )))old one(((.

  86. A123 says:

    Is this the end of the DNC? They are against civilization itself….
    .

    .
    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Supply and Demand
  87. Darcy says:

    Mr. Whitney, if you are in bed with one fascist faction of ruling elte against another fascist faction, in my vocabulary you are called a Fascist sympathizer. It doesn’t matter which clique you are supporting. You cannot save face by condemning the Democrats and at the same time being in bed with the Trumpists.

    • Agree: vot tak
  88. The killer has been identified ….Michael Forest Reinoehl….48 year old snowboarder currently unemployed
    It appears he did kill the victim because he was a Trump supporter..

    The link contains a video of the shooting and a brief interview with the perpetrator

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/portland-police-investigate-100-antifa-suspect-identified-4chan-hours-after-shooting

    This is a clip from the article–

    Reinoehl’s sister confirmed it was him:

    Reinoehl’s 36-year-old sister said she was awakened just before 8 a.m. Sunday by a threatening phone call from someone who told her that “our whole family was in danger unless we turned him over.”

    “That’s how I found out,” that her brother was allegedly involved, she told The Oregonian/OregonLive.

    She called Sandy police to report the threat, she said. Once she looked online and saw screenshots of her brother’s photo, she said she called Portland detectives.

    “We reached out to police and confirmed that we recognized Michael in the screenshots,” she said. She asked that her name not be used because of the threats.

    Michael Reinoehl has been estranged from the family – including her, their parents and a younger brother – for at least three years, his sister said. -The Oregonian

    • Thanks: follyofwar
    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome
  89. anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:
    @Zarathustra

    Zarathustra:

    The correct total for daily murders in my Chicago is ~ 2 a day, 10 shot, 2 killed. Still terrible by any standard of basic civilization.

    The best sources for Chicago murders and mayhem are:

    HeyJackAss
    SecondCityCop
    CrimeInWrigleyvilleAndBoystown

    Honest Chicago commentary in somewhat mainstream media

    John Kass – Chicago Tribune (now getting deplatformed, pushed off the Mike Royko page 2

    Mancow Muller – WLS AM morning host – humor, regular guy commentary about violence and political corruption.

  90. Richard B says:
    @ThreeCranes

    Great comment!

    She’s proof that there’s only one real KKK in the world today.

    The Kvetching Kosher Khazars.

    • Agree: Trinity
  91. sally says:
    @Zarathustra

    https://themillenniumreport.com/ <= These people believe make believe acts of god are designed to establish ungovernable status in USA governed America. From behind the tree warfare <= targets not USA Infra structure, but destruction of the resources still available to Americans, Mayhem for the population, and lack of leadership for the top down governors. Direct confrontations are configured as media events designed to enable propaganda to be used to destroy the ability to govern and designed to win converts to the perpetrators.
    This is exactly as was done against the Czar in Russia (1919), and Gaddiffi in recent times.

    The USA has a constitution which denies those it governs any say in the operations of the USA.. and the opposition to American freedom has been using denial of voice by the governed in USA affairs as a base line reference point to convince Americans none of the USA people (SENATOR, MEMBER OF THE HOUSE OR EXECUTIVE OR JUDICIAL Branch members) are worthy of even the time of day..

    Trump’s resignation might wake up America but those in the USA would not like that and unless some kind of coordination were to develop the outcome might be disastrous.

    • Thanks: Zarathustra
  92. Trinity says:
    @Richard B

    Javanka is indeed a problem and one of the reasons Trumpstein will NEVER be taken seriously by anyone with any knowledge of the Jewification of America. Admittedly, Trumpstein appears to be the only choice in this election as well IMO, I mean it isn’t as if Joe & The Ho will be a better choice for Whites. Javanka stands for everything that Trumpstein opposes or at least pretends to oppose with the exception of his over the top love for Jews and Israel, but it isn’t as if Joe & The Ho aren’t even more cucked for Jews and muh Israel. As I have pointed out on several occasions already, the Constitution and/or state rights didn’t stop the Dutch Jew from invading Arkansas with federal troops and forcing White Southerners to send their children to school with negroes nor did it stop JFK from making Governor Wallace back down in Alabama. Trumpstein is a blowhard, a man of many words and little action, HOWEVER, IF Joe & The Ho ARE SELECTED, Whites will be in for some serious trouble that makes what is happening now look like a stroll in the park.

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  93. @fnn

    You are quite right. “Great Socialist” is a CIA agent shooting from the rooftop in the dark to kill both protesters and police. This is a tactic of the “color revolution” such as in the Maidan in Ukraine. Rogue elements of our own government are out to destroy America. And the vaccine will be the “rapture” to send humanity back to the extraterrestrials.

  94. Anonymous[181] • Disclaimer says:

    Tipping point indeed. This shooting is Trump’s ticket to the White House; it’s that simple.

  95. Richard B says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Yet another ignorant right wing Amerikastani which couldn’t define a Marxist to save its life but which, like almost all of its fellows, uses “communist” and “Marxist” to mean “anything we don’t understand and don’t like”.

    Just as the other side routinely calls anyone who disagrees with them Nazis.

    https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=9X3ck_1598817291

    This video also proves that there’s only one real KKK in the world today.

    The Kvetching Kosher Khazars.

    The Right and Left are intellectually bankrupt.

    Everything that is happening is symptomatic of that.

    They’re both Enlightenment ideologies. Two sides of the same Enlightenment coin.

    And the Enlightenment can be reduced to one principle.

    The adaptation of the organism to the environment is considered the basis of all moral and intellectual decisions.

    The basic aim of both the Right and Left is to make every moral decision an intellectual one and visa versa.

    The Right and Left assume, and have for ages, that the structure of the mind is identical to the structure of nature.

    But, as we now know, that is a judgment made in error.

    That is what is happening today.

    Explanatory Collapse.

    The violence is symptom of a larger issue, which is that.

    The collapse of Explanation itself.

    Both the Right and Left have their heads firmly stuffed up the same 18th century ass.

    Marx is simply a watered down inversion of the very thing Marxist despise.

    All Marx did was pour his interpretation of Hegel into a pre-existing Christian-Enlightenment mold.

    The damage Marx did fades into nothing compared to the damage now being done in his name.

    • Replies: @S
    , @S
  96. oldtimer says:
    @Escher

    Escher – you really are a special kind of STUPID!

  97. @Achmed E. Newman

    If you don’t think Sholomo has carefully managed the cult of physique and its myriad of gross mirror iterations, I would encourage you to read the Protocols. Part of the reason I defected from the United States of Monsanto was an inability to find products that weren’t injected with metabolism killing Schmuel Juice made from maize.

  98. SC Rebel says:
    @jsinton

    Your fear is justified and it’s exactly what the elite want us to do. They want a pretext to declare martial law. So far, we haven’t given it to them, which means these incidents will increase in number and size over the coming months.

    • Agree: jsinton
  99. Ko says:

    Worse than incapable of keeping the peace, they are unwilling. The mayors of Seattle and the Portland should be arrested and tossed into Guantanamo for being terrorists.

    • Agree: TKK
  100. SC Rebel says:
    @Oldtradesman

    Thanks. I’m praying for that young man.

  101. @North Cascadian

    The founder of the Prayer Patriots, Joey Gibson, seems like an asset of some kind. He was involved in the Hong Kong protests, another “spontaneous” black bloc uprising. He has been coordinating with Portland Police. Kyle Rittenhouse was recruited by a now deleted Facebook page (run by whom?). The deep state has had several decades of practice since the COINTELPRO days. When everyone goes about in masks, who can tell the difference between BLM, AntiFa, opportunist criminals, undercovers, Feds, and spooks? Of course, the government leaders are sitting back to watch the chaos unfold. Either way they’ll get what they want.

    • Agree: vot tak
    • Replies: @Chevrus
  102. tempus says:

    Looks like the rest of the country is receiving what the South has been receiving ever since Lincoln invaded it in 1861.

  103. onebornfree says: • Website
    @RoatanBill

    “That the love of gov’t and its murderous regimes is so strong that people will risk death and maiming to support the ludicrous concept is mindbogglingly stupid. That’s the majority of the US population.”

    Exactly. And predictably,all of the idiot slaves [including the author of this piece, apparently] become totally distracted by these tragic,[ but minor ], deliberate, staged, events, while all the while, in the background what precious little of their freedoms that is left is removed from them piece by piece, right under their collective “right” and “left” idiot noses, by the very same criminal institution they all unreservedly worship and simultaneously fantasize is actually protecting their freedoms.

    “The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it’s profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.” Frank Zappa

    “Because they are all ultimately funded via both direct and indirect theft [taxes], and counterfeiting [central bank monopolies], all governments are essentially, at their very cores, 100% corrupt criminal scams which cannot be “reformed”or “improved”,simply because of their innate criminal nature.” onebornfree

    Regards, onebornfree

  104. @Zarathustra

    ‘After all Phoenix can rise only from ashes.’

    It can take a while.

    The collapse of the Roman Empire in the West is usually dated to 476 ad. There had been problems for over two hundred years preceding that date — but let’s take 476.

    Painted in broad strokes, life descended into what could be defined as blood-soaked anarchy for about the next thousand years.

    Somebody compiled statistics (gotta wonder how reliable, but…) showing that the around 30% of the male aristocracy in each generation met violent deaths throughout that span.

    That’s not exactly what most of us are used to.

    • Agree: V. K. Ovelund
    • Replies: @Francis Miville
  105. Wade says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    If we manage to survive, Kyle Rittenhouse will become a venerated man of folklore, equivalent to Paul Revere, except that we will have the footage to prove that he really did it.

  106. @Thomas More

    The State of Oregon is now an unlawful and illegitimate government, and the law-abiding citizens of that territory deserve the help of the government of which they are citizens.

    Correct for crazy Portland but not the surrounding cities whose administrations and police departments are functioning as normal and will not accept the crazies.

    The city of Portland has a decidedly idiot mayor that thinks he can blame everything on Trump. He was chased out of a demonstration by the very people he supports. The Portland police arrest the Antifa types then drop charges and release then back on the street to repeat their illegal violent acts.

    The killing of a Trump supporter in Portland will stir up the mostly conservative and gun owners outside Portland. The crazies in Portland will regret drawing blood and their victory dances.

    • Replies: @Realist
  107. Tick Tock says:

    Does this classify as a HATE CRIME? Would that finally make Antifa an organized HATE GROUP?

    Are they now a Domestic Terrorist Organization?

    • Replies: @Whitewolf
  108. @Really No Shit

    … I feel that a seventeen years old boy was sent out to do a man’s job….

    I’m pro-Rittenhouse, but he’s 17. He sent himself out. That’s what white 17-year-olds do.

    Seventeen-year-old men lack the agency to accomplish much else on their own, but if they are normal, then they’re brimming with agency to court danger. What normal 17-year-old with a pulse does not relish the thought of a brawl?

    • Replies: @Really No Shit
  109. @GomezAdddams

    As with the “victims” of Rittenhouse in Kenosha, the three rioters there happening to have been stamped with the contemporary Scarlet Letter (felon) would have found it essentially impossible to land even existence-level jobs. Already having done prison time and there being immersed in a group of people who included a disproportionate number of true and actual criminals; these guys became easy pickings for paymasters looking to amp up the violence.

    It is most probable that these paymasters were closely connected with the deep state actors (think CIA for the controlling element of the nexus), with the ultimate goal being the imposition of Martial Law and the final terminus to the shattered remnants of our Bill of Rights.

    The aim of the ultimate paymasters, the globalist financial elite, is to seriously reduce world population levels, leaving only their minions, pliable serfs and themselves remaining and sustained as the All Seeing Eye of Horus hovering above their New World Order globalist lockdown plantation.

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Bill P
  110. @follyofwar

    To my mind, an example of poor planning happened when the crowd leaving Mr. Trump’s over-long acceptance speech left the White House grounds late at night.

    I dislike blaming the targets of violence for poor planning. I would rather blame the perpetrators.

    With even a light police presence, it ought to be safe to exit a civic event at night.

    • Replies: @Alden
  111. @Johnny Smoggins

    Thanks for the tip. There is also “Revolver,” which I didn’t know of until Tucker Carlson mentioned it as an alternative to Drudge.

    • Replies: @A123
  112. @omegabooks

    You get right down to the gist of the matter. I just made a related comment at 11:11 a.m. CDT.

  113. Every media person whether print or TV, including media owners, writers, etc … who incite, tell lies, mis-lead, and/or merely read what is put before them is part of the cabal. They are all guilty and have a hand in all this mayhem. While they gladly collect large wages for being hired liars and deceivers they have no excuse for the evil they cause and I will have No pity for them come Judgement Day. This has been going on for at least a century. Better to be a weather or sports person.

    • Agree: DaveE
  114. John Long says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    Thanks for the link.

    Haven’t read Drudge in months.

    From what I understand he really found his inner sodomite.

    • LOL: DaveE
  115. Just a few days ago you were lionizing Rittenhouse for killing protesters… Without thinking that it has crossed a tipping point when a minor crosses a state border with an illegal firearm and then shoots a protester in the face where being a protester is the mere provocation.

    The tipping point was crossed some time ago and you were cheering on it.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Hibernian
  116. Alden says:
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    Father of 19 year old Lorenzo Anderson who was shot by Seattle CHAZ thugs is already suing the city for ceding control of part of the city to anarchy and criminals.

    Maybe that’s the way to go. All the businesses and their insurance company attorneys due the cities for ordering the police to stand down, refusing to ask the national guard to restore order etc.

    • Replies: @S
  117. Whitewolf says:
    @GomezAdddams

    My money would be on a joint operation of the 1%. They aren’t doing it just for laughs though. It’s a distraction from them.

  118. Alden says:
    @V. K. Ovelund

    Blame the victims , or poor planning or whatever is the overwhelming theme of UNZ commenters.

    Shouldna go to the county fair, shouldna go to work or school, shouldna live in this or that city, shouldna be out after dark even in December at 5/pm shoulda woulda coulda but always always blame the victims , poor planning, parents of young adults blame anyone but the criminals.

    Veronica Baker went to the same high school as her killers, it’s all her fault she was killed. Blame the victim blame the victim blame the victim that’s the mantra of the stay at home MEN OF UNZ.

    • Replies: @Genrick Yagoda
    , @Poco
  119. Chevrus says:
    @Joey Pastrami

    This pretty much what I have been thinking all along. There is just so much precedent behaior from the alphabet saboteurs it’s unlikely they AREN’T doing….

  120. Exile says:

    This is the first incident in which the hysteria generated by the media and its accomplices in Democrat party can be directly linked to a political assassination justified on the basis that the victim espoused political beliefs different than those of the perpetrator. Simply put, he was killed because he was identified as a Trump supporter and, thus, “fair game”.

    The victims of Connor Betts came first, at the very least – and they were not alone. The “Socialist Rifle Club” with which Betts was affiliated has bragged about these kinds of actions and certainly made no sincere attempt to disavow Betts.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Dayton_shooting#Perpetrator

  121. A123 says:
    @follyofwar

    Drudge apparently sold his site months ago. Drudge Report is no longer useful as a resource.

    A potential replacement is:
    http://ancipient.com

    It does a decent job based on algorithms, picking up stories like this one:

    https://summit.news/2020/08/31/videos-show-leftists-throwing-objects-from-balcony-at-trump-supporter-convoy-on-portland-highway/

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  122. Dumbo says:
    @Supply and Demand

    LOL, yes, what we mostly need are “chads with Instagram accounts.” 😀

    Women follow, ergo, they are not really relevant here. Let them follow the celebrities if they wish.

    I agree with the other commenter, those who praise muscular men too much are likely gay.

    I mean, Sparta, Bronze Age Pervert, and all that.

    Napoleon, Hitler, Caesar, Ho Chi Minh, none of them were buff like, say, Conan the Barbarian (who was a fictional character, by the way). In leadership, strategy and intelligence are more important than personal physical strength.

    • Replies: @Supply and Demand
  123. @Realist

    The NJP’s link to the event in Los Angeles via Twitter stated: “This is not available to you.”

    • Replies: @Realist
  124. Whitewolf says:
    @Tick Tock

    Does this classify as a HATE CRIME? Would that finally make Antifa an organized HATE GROUP?

    Are they now a Domestic Terrorist Organization?

    The US government itself could and should be classified as a domestic terrorist organisation. There’s no way the rioting and looting could continue this long without it’s implicit support for what’s going on.

    All the hysteria and lockdowns over covid 1984 should be classed as terrorism as well. Even the official death tolls while significant don’t justify the hysteria and response by the government.

    • Agree: Realist
  125. Alden says:
    @Дима Трамп

    Once and for all ignorant moron, the firearm was not illegal, it was legally registered in WI, and like thousands of people in the Antioch IL Kenosha WI area Rittenhouse commuted from his home in Antioch IL to Kenosha WI daily because he works in Kenosha

    America isn’t 1920-196os Soviet Union when people needed special passes to travel from one town to the next.

    BTW the way, where’d you get the idea it’s illegal to cross state lines ?

    Half the despicable MEN OF UNZ were defending Epstein Maxwell for violating federal law 18 USC 2421 2422 2423 2424 and 2425 by transporting prostitutes across state lines in an ongoing criminal enterprise for decades.

    Now you’re making up laws that an IL resident can’t work in WI because it means crossing state lines.

    • Agree: Poco
  126. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Yet another ignorant right wing Amerikastani which couldn’t define a Marxist to save its life but which, like almost all of its fellows, uses “communist” and “Marxist” to mean “anything we don’t understand and don’t like”.

    Their fundamental agreement with Marx is their insistence on a permanent monopoly of power. Their own.

    It’s also an elegant illustration of his most useful trope, “first time, tragedy; second time, farce”.

  127. Iva says:

    http://www.israelshamir.com/article/belarus-on-the-brink/…………&#8230;.globalists/zionists/communists want to dismental Belarus to appoint pupet government and buy for pennies properties and industies that belong to government. This is wat they did with Poland.
    I see that there is a revolution going on in the US. Russian revolution was limited also to few cities and started by paid criminals oppressing the rest of the population ( 3 BLM men shot by Rittenhouse have a long criminal record). Lenin came to St Petersburg with \$5 M worth of gold. Where did he get it???? He was poor living in one room in the attic. Rand Paul, afterI BLM harassed him in DC, said the FBI should start stopping these people , getting their ID, finding out who pays for their hotels in DC, then we will know who financed them. I do not like what became the Democratic party.
    James Perloff in book “Council on Foreign Relations” explains how Deep State works.
    CFR used to have offices in NY, DC, Tokyo and London. @/3 years ago they opened office in Warsaw, which is a bad sign that they have “work to do “ in Eastern and Central Europe. CFR is a globalist/zionist/communist organization and as long as it exist world and its humanity is in danger.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  128. If this escalates nation wide, race war here we come.

    • Agree: Agent76
    • Replies: @Menes
  129. @Dumbo

    I chose Napoleon in particular because he understood the necessity of a good PR campaign as part of leadership and strategy. His star rose when he started using his General’s salary as commander of the Army of Italy to cultivate the Instagram of his day: paintings hung in victory squares, and public pamphlets. Napoleon never won a victory as grand as his colleagues on the Rhine during that period, but they are not remembered. They did not whiff absolute power.

    In regard to physique: you have proved my point there. Those leaders may not have aesthetics IRL, but all of them had institutional support that cultivated them as such. There are no busts of Caesar as a pudgy layabout with a factory-made AR and backwards slouch cap. Remember, Jane Fonda said she’d marry Ho Chih Minh if he proposed to her. I would never call that man aesthetic, but the consent factory was sure at work trying to convince the world he was.

  130. Liamjq says:

    What is wrong with you????….. “Shootout”?????…..”Tragedy”????….in what universe is a cold blooded murder a “shootout”?…and why don’t you look up tragedy so you’ll know the difference between that and an atrocity.. ps spare us the idiotic use of “assassination” at any time

  131. Hibernian says:
    @Дима Трамп

    …a minor crosses a state border with an illegal firearm…

    This hasn’t been established. Neither has Mr. Rittenhouse’s story that he was lent the weapon by a friend in WI. Guess who has the burden of proof.

    …where being a protester is the mere provocation.

    Sure. Even Adam Schiff is now decrying the violence, while of course blaming it on our Orange President.

    • Replies: @Supply and Demand
  132. @TG

    “the prevailing anarchist doctrine that all property is a crime” – sorry, you are wrong there.

    Yes, and no. The problem we have today, is that the original meaning and context of the anarchist doctrine is beyond the intellectual capacity of the morons who pretend they are anti-globalist.

    The all property is a crime is twisted from its inception approximately 200 years ago. The early socialists understood that with the dismantling of the craft guilds, finance capitalism was created. The masters of their crafts and their local businesses were replaced with factories and the masters were now employees. Property is the product or fruit of labour, and is moveable. The theft of property was the theft of the product or fruit of those who produced it, because the product was sold for more than the cost of production, but the profit went to the financier, not to the producer.
    Real estate is not property, it is real property. That distinction no longer exists in common usage today, even though it is legally enforced.
    So Bill Gates has property, and real property. Some of his property is undoubtedly stolen from those he has employed.
    As for the anarchists, the original anarchists were not interested in destroying property or real property. They were interested in destroying finance capitalism and government control over local economies. The socialists and communists of yesteryear, would be horrified to be associated with these useful idiots pretending to lefties.

  133. @A123

    Are they the Real Racists, too?

    • Replies: @A123
  134. @Trinity

    With all the respect no. If Biden wins all problems will disappear, as reported by media, only economic problems will arise in full.

  135. Agent76 says:

    August 11, 2020 What If Trump Won’t Leave. Trump is prepared to do whatever it takes to keep power. Can he be stopped? By Frances Fox Piven, Deepak Bhargava

    Events in Charlottesville, Lafayette Square, and Portland have shown the country that President Donald Trump is prepared to do whatever it takes to keep power, including embracing militant white supremacists and using federal troops to tear gas and arrest peaceful protesters.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/55448.htm

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Hibernian
    , @Zarathustra
  136. @Johnny Smoggins

    I gave up on Drudge about 3 years ago. Thanks for the suggestion, Johnny.

  137. Svigor: “This ham-handed sarcasm about jevvs controlling everything down to the weather is really tired, shopworn, and unfunny.”

    If it’s untrue, then what DON’T they control? Let’s see you prove it.

  138. @Hibernian

    You must think you still live in the America with a functioning justice system. You don’t — you’re in this one, now.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  139. A123 says:
    @Supply and Demand

    Are they the Real Racists, too?

    Yes. Racist Democrats are the backbone of the SJW Globalist DNC.

    PEACE 😇

  140. Emslander says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    For the life of me, I can’t figure out what in the hell you are trying to assert.

    If the Jews are at the bottom of everything that’s wrong in the world, they have no fear of the unusual people on the Unz Review.

    • Agree: American Citizen 2.0
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  141. Realist says:
    @Majority of One

    The NJP’s link to the event in Los Angeles via Twitter stated: “This is not available to you.”

    I don’t know…maybe you have to be a member.

  142. Realist says:
    @Majority of One

    As with the “victims” of Rittenhouse in Kenosha, the three rioters there happening to have been stamped with the contemporary Scarlet Letter (felon) would have found it essentially impossible to land even existence-level jobs. Already having done prison time and there being immersed in a group of people who included a disproportionate number of true and actual criminals; these guys became easy pickings for paymasters looking to amp up the violence.

    That is true. Life is full of choices…make as many good one as you can.

  143. Corrupt says:

    Time to play Cowboys and PantiFa.

  144. Robert Dolan: “17 year old kids should not have to be defending our country when we pay taxes for our leadership and police to keep us safe. ”

    Damn right! Where is Philip Brailsford when you really need him? Where is Joseph James DeAngelo Jr., aka the Golden State Killer? Where’s Derek Chauvin?

    You just can’t depend on anyone nowadays.

    • Agree: Ray Huffman
  145. S says:
    @Richard B

    The Right and Left are intellectually bankrupt…Everything that is happening is symptomatic of that…They’re both Enlightenment ideologies. Two sides of the same Enlightenment coin.

    Excellent post.

    The whole Hegelian Dialectic of Right vs Left, Capitalist vs Communist, Conservative vs Liberal, and in the United States as a microcosm of this, Republican vs Dem, is not natural at all and was (and is) manmade, and has been broadly controlled and guided by human minds and hands ever since it’s late 18th century inception.

    [MORE]

    People’s continued belief in this artificial dialectic (myself included at one time) can in large part be attributed simply to the power of the Big Lie, and it has to be said, the power of self deception.

    And, yet, they tell us (somewhat) openly about what they do, and have been doing…ie it’s part of the open historic record that Thomas Jefferson, author of the US Declaration of Independence, was, in addition, 1984 O’Brien like*, author, or, rather co-author, of the French Revolution’s Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen, the latter being a ‘foundational document’ of the revolution which introduced to the world ‘the Commune’, ‘counter revolution’, the ‘political commissar’, ‘Red Republicanism’, ‘Whites’, the mass arrests and executions of the ‘Great Terror’, all of which Soviet Communism would evolve from.

    The excerpted and linked article below from (an apparent) Masonic website* elaborates upon how it was that Founding Fathers of the 1776 Capitalist American Revolution, were also Founding Fathers of the 1789 Communist French Revolution as well.

    ‘As soon as America gained her independence from Great Britain (with substantial French assistance), first Franklin and then Jefferson went on missions to France where they served as nuclei around which formed a latticework of interrelated or interconnected French revolutionary leaders, one of whom was Marie Joseph Paul Ives Gilbert du Motier, Marquis de Lafayette, who, after fighting in the American Revolution, imported revolutionary ideology into his native France under Jefferson’s guidance and inspiration.’

    ‘Products of the European Enlightenment, Franklin and Jefferson were station masters of France’s American depot, as Lafayette was an agent of the French central station trained on the American revolutionary training ground. Seeding the revolutionary cloud was not a one-sided French venture, however. On the contrary: the seedtime of the French Revolution was during Benjamin Franklin’s ministry to France–and that American was the seed-planter.’

    *O’Brien in Orwell’s novel was Winston’s secret police torturer/interrogater, and in reality, co-author of Winston’s and Julia’s false hope, Emmanuelle Goldstein’s resistance book.

    **The outstanding Belcher Foundation website is dedicated to the preservation of the memory and lifework of Jonathan Belcher (1682 – 1757), a prominent British royal colonial governor, founder of Princeton University, and first North American born British Freemason.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_the_Rights_of_Man_and_of_the_Citizen

    https://www.monticello.org/site/research-and-collections/french-revolution

    https://www.belcherfoundation.org/trilateral_center.htm

  146. anon[367] • Disclaimer says:

    Commenting still verboten on Yahoo forum by American citizens. I’m posting this everywhere. All forums on the net that censor citizens should be boycotted. Three cheers for the Unz review.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  147. Anon[415] • Disclaimer says:
    @Curmudgeon

    If that were actually true, and therefore true in isolation as your well written short essay implies, then the socialists and communists of yesteryear would not have attached identity demands to their economic goals.

    Demands having to do with race and nationhood, primarily.

    Where these communists are fundamentally wrong, and why they are either doomed to fail or to cause anyone who adopts their worldview to fail in terms of self determination and prosperity (which may be the actual goal), is that political power is not created within the framework of economic class “bonds” (in quotations because the bonds are culturally and therefore politically weak, innately prone to manipulation by rulers and their money, and therefore of no true political consequence).

    Political power can only be created via racial bonds. Which is why race for the commoner is the ne plus ultra target of the ruling class that also realizes its power through racial bonds, primarily.

    Communists of yesteryear attack race as a concept.

    My proposal is that communism is not actually interested in economics except as a stalking horse. As we can observe in both China and the United States today, capitalism is coherent with communist goals.

    Those true goals being the sociopolitical dismantling of a People, and therefore of their Political Power, in order to pave the way for them to be ruled as slaves by (often) a foreign Power / ethnic group.

    • Replies: @MrVoid
    , @Curmudgeon
  148. aandrews says:

    https://twitter.com/aibarra/status/1300263692953694208

    In a normal circumstance, if there was a report of people throwing rocks at cars from a freeway overpass, the cops would be there quasi-immediately. However…this seems to be a different situation, freedom of speech, perhaps.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  149. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:
    @Agent76

    Several years since I’ve read anything at infoclearinghouse.
    Seems it has devolved into rubbish unless the linked article is an aberration.

    Curious why you would recommend rubbish.

  150. Bill P says:
    @Majority of One

    What are you talking about? Felons can get jobs no problem. Maybe not working at a bank or as a cop, but pretty much anything that requires manual labor and doesn’t require a security clearance is open to them. Every felon I know is gainfully employed making a solid wage.

    The idea that nobody will hire felons is pure bunk.

    • Replies: @Alden
  151. S says:
    @Richard B

    I should add (to my just previous post), if people are tired of being manipulated and whipsawed about by this manufactured and broadly controlled Right vs Left Hegelian dialectic, they should publically denounce it, and it’s synthesis of global Multi-Culturalism as well.

    Stop participating in it, and laugh at its parts, as well as its whole. Don’t add to the hatred surrounding and permeating this dialectic, that just makes this dialectic’s promoters stronger, as they feed off of this hatred.

    If at all possible, offer better, life affirming ideas.

    It’s unfortunate that there hasn’t been a mass movement rejecting this Left/Right dialectic going back a hundred or more years. If there had been one, the IRA wouldn’t perhaps have been suckered into going Marxist, and the Irish today losing their identity as a result. Same with China, first going Capitalist, and then Communist, finally a mix of the two where China’s organic identity remains suppressed.

    The people(s) of the world don’t have to be this artificial dialectic’s promoters toy soldiers and playthings, for them to have their way with.

    • Replies: @Majority of One
  152. @Stephen Paul Foster

    the cops who are trying to keep the streets safe

    Very funny. Seems to me they made the streets less safe when they arrested Kyle. And when they disarmed the McCloskeys. And when they do such things hundreds of times every day to decent citizens.

    They’re mercenaries who don’t give a damn about you or your family. They will obey absolutely any orders they are given by their vile paymasters. ANY orders. And when those paymasters decide you don’t need your guns anymore, guess who’s going to execute that wish–THEM!

    Get a clue.

    • Agree: MrVoid, 3g4me, Trinity, Stonehands
    • Replies: @Stephen Paul Foster
  153. Did we forget Jessica Whitaker? In broad daylight, downtown Indianapolis her small party was assaulted and threatened by armed BLM scum. Since her companion was also armed the thugs relented. Seemingly. Shortly they tracked and shot from a safe distance, killing the woman who had the fall to say, All Lives Matter. There have been no arrests.

    • Replies: @Realist
  154. @GomezAdddams

    Soros and his front organizations have been active for a number of years around Multnomah County (Portland). Finally this year they got their man elected DA, name of Mike Schmidt. This is the bird dropping all the charges. There seems to be core group of several hundred Antifa out there every night, and somebody is providing food and lodging, and also the uniforms – black clothing, black helmets, black boots, black backpacks.

    It’s truly amazing how the FBI has not managed to infiltrate and bust them after all these years. Maybe the FBI and Deep State are really in on this, wouldn’t be surprised.

    • Agree: annamaria
    • Replies: @Alden
  155. Just a little perspective here. This is not the 1960s. False-flag demonstrations in various American cities meant to whip the yobs. Like you. Are not the end of the world. Nobody else reports the shit out of this stuff like you do. I wonder why.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  156. @Dweezil the Weasel

    Wise words. Organize and wait for the enemy to come to you.

  157. Eloquent stuff, Mike Whitney. But please don’t call them Marxists or anarchists. Marxist revolution depends on a vital proletariat–that is, a productive working class ready to seize the means of production. Forty years of neoliberalism and offshoring have destroyed the American proletariat. The hooligans raising hell (many for pay, I’m sure) in Portland are a combination of lumpen proletariat (or sub-proletarians) and petit bourgeois. Marx despised both classes and considered them reactionary.

    And you can’t call them anarchists, either. Philosophical anarchism (Bakunin, Proudhon, et al.) depends on a belief in cooperation, so that the industrious individuals working together can exist productively without an overriding state. The punks leading this nationwide TDS orgy have no sense whatsoever of cooperation and living productively.

    What they are doing will damage the very idea of “the left” for at least a generation.

    They are nihilists, and useful idiots. And yes, the media, and the political class, especially the Dems, are to blame.

    • Replies: @MrVoid
  158. MrVoid says:
    @Anon

    Communism, the theoretical construct, was just means to and end, the end being the toppling of any kind of aristocratic order and the destruction of western civilisation. Today’s Marxists (the contemporary spiritual heirs of the original Marxists) aren’t communists any more. They don’t talk about about implenting communism any more, or if they do, it’s just in-group flag-waving done without real ideological commitment. All of that went out of fashion. Some of them became neocons. Bernadine Dohrn, who is probably still a “communist” flag waver, was recently the president of a foundation that funnels money from corporate America into BLM protests. The Marxists have abandoned communism in favour of status quo corporatism. Why? Because A) Jews control corporate America and communism would necessitate state seizure of of privately held corporate assets which is the last thing they want to have happen now. B) The Marxist vision of destruction is still being fulfilled, but in a total and irreversable fashion that makes old fashioned communism seem relatively benign, even preferable to the status quo.

  159. MrVoid says:
    @nosquat loquat

    Eloquent stuff, Mike Whitney. But please don’t call them Marxists or anarchists.

    I think the Marxist label is very valid. They are the spiritual successors of the early Marxists. They are what yesterday’s Marxists have morphed into and it’s not something that they are at all ashamed of.

    • Agree: Hibernian
  160. Hibernian says:
    @Agent76

    The pretense that they’re “peaceful protesters” has been dropped even by Adam Schiff. He just says that it’s all Orange Man’s fault.

  161. Alden says:
    @Bill P

    I agree

    The big retail chains hire vast numbers of parolees and felons. The various Kruger supermarket subsidiaries and Walgreens are major employers of felons. Kruger owns most of the super market chains in the country. State governments give tax breaks and other subsidizes to the big chains to employ felons as clerks. Been going on for decades. Many affirmative action government employees are felons

    Plus, it’s illegal in many states to not hire parolees and felons because of their criminal records. Rodney King had his job at city owned Dodger stadium arranged before he was released from prison

    • Agree: Hibernian
    • Replies: @TKK
  162. S says:
    @Alden

    Father of 19 year old Lorenzo Anderson who was shot by Seattle CHAZ thugs is already suing the city for ceding control of part of the city to anarchy and criminals.

    Lawsuits might indeed be the way to go.

    One would of thought the ultimate fate in 1978 of the Euro progressive led Blackcentric/Communist Jonestown Autonomouz Zone (JAZZ) in Guyana, a trailblazer in this sort of thing, and the shooting murder by its thugs of Democratic US Congressman Leo Ryan, would have been enough of a lesson to Dems to avoid tolerating (and, or, embracing) this sort of thing in the future for all time.

    Apparently not.

    The self declared ‘progressive’ sorts do seem to have some sort of death wish, and they want to take everyone else down with them.

    Unlike many other figures who are considered cult leaders, Jones enjoyed public support and contact with some of the highest level politicians in the United States. Jones met with vice presidential candidate Walter Mondale and First Lady Rosalynn Carter. Guests at a large 1976 testimonial dinner for Jones included California Governor Jerry Brown, Lieutenant Governor Mervyn Dymally, and California Assemblyman Willie Brown, among others.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown

  163. Larry says:

    The keyboard-warriors almost got Kyle killed.

    And you have learned nothing.

    Keep working with the BLM/antifa playbook and you will succeed in getting more people killed.

    It will accomplish nothing.

    • Troll: Trinity
    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  164. Hibernian says:
    @Supply and Demand

    With the high powered legal representation he has, the kid has a chance at least against the state murder charges. A change of administration will surely mean a civil rights investigation and civil rights charges. Aside from those two issues, he’ll quite likely be convicted of or plead to minor state charges and serve some time. Yes, even a short sentence will be hell for him because of his notoriety. Hopefully he’ll have a good support network.

  165. Rooster7 says:

    The problem is there is so much disinformation, those on the left see this as the same thing as the Kyle Rittenhouse shootings. It’s no longer possible to sway people with facts, truth, and logic. They’re fed a stream of B.S. with bits and pieces of truth and lies intertwined; there’s no helping those who don’t want to see.

  166. Hibernian says:
    @aandrews

    My cousin as a PD in NE Illinois defended kids who dropped boulders on an expressway, with predictably fatal result. This incident motivated him to go into private practice as soon as possible. That something like this would be condoned or minimized is utterly evil.

  167. Alden says:
    @Army of the Potomac

    I’m sure the FBI is in in it. The ostensible reason for affirmative action was to replace qualified White government workers with unqualified black workers.

    The hidden purpose was to infiltrate dissident subversive revolutionary Whites into government work, especially at managerial levels. This was done by the “ relevant experience “ experience requirement. For blacks and browns, it was just existing.

    For Whites it was belonging to college revolutionary clubs, working a year or two at revolutionary non profits, government radical organizations like Teach For America and working on a political campaign for a far leftist politician That’s the only way a White can get a government job. Then there’s the interview in which the applicant is expected to recite the latest liberal manifesto.

    And that’s how we got an FBI that refuses to enforce RICO legislation against these revolutionaries.

    • Replies: @Ugetit
    , @Niebelheim
  168. @Anon

    I agree with most of your comment, however, I think it is worth noting that Marx and Engels – the communists – had little support from the “international socialists” as late as 1870, and, in fact outright rejected communism. The original socialist movements were “international” only from the perspective that they shared each others’ ideas. Because they were focused on local economies, not national economies, they did have, in some respects, attach to an identity of local and to some degree national, but never foreign.
    I think what happened in the USSR is somewhat self explanatory in that regard. The comparison I would make is the old trade union movement, which was openly anti-immigration. However, once the immigrant, regardless of race, was an employee and became part of the union, he was a “brother” (or sister, if female). It didn’t mean you had to socialize with them or even like them, but for the purposes of advancing the cause of workers, there had to be solidarity. The USSR did not welcome mass immigration from the 3rd world. Like the CIA, they brought in duped to educate and send back to sell the programme.
    That is not what the idiots posing as communists today are all about. The race bit plays right into the hands of finance capital as a distraction from what is happening.
    As for the convergence of communism and capitalism, I would agree that it is a convergence with finance capitalism. As I have posted previously, in the 70s I had Soviets, a Czech, a Slovak and an East German in my classes. In the economic system aspect, keeping people employed was paramount. How busy people were at work seemed to be a secondary consideration. I saw it as “idle hands are the devil’s workshop” attitude. Malcontents and those chronically dismissed from jobs were sent for “re-education”. Stalking horse? There is an argument to be made for that, because of the behviour modification aspect of that system. We have the same with finance capitalism. The news is inundated with the stock market and business reports 24/7, as if that means anything to the unemployed trying to figure out where they can live and feed their families. Yet the overwhelming majority of the population laps up the bs about the “mysterious market forces”. They never look at who is in control from the perspective of who or what is the commune or politburo.
    We may not be on the same page, but I think we are in the same chapter.

  169. Realist says:
    @Sgt Grumble

    The way to fight Antifa, BLM and other anti-White groups is not to attack them in public…since the law is not on your side…but to determine who they are. Learn about them, find out where they live, what their patterns are…then take care of the problem. Guerrilla tactics are excellent for this situation.

  170. Getaclue says:
    @follyofwar

    Trump is barely in charge of large portions of the Government he is President over — the FBI and CIA tried to remove and frame him, anyone not a moron knows this now — the DOJ was in on it, Federal Judges are part of the “Resistance” — much of the Secretary of State people have also been part of the “Resistance”, the Military brass Obama installed obviously hates him and they have also worked against him as we saw with the Colonel who was allowed to try and frame him up for the Ukraine impeachment and who paid no price for doing so…. — the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs’ comments as to walking to the Church and regretting it etc. — so this is the reality at hand now not what you are saying — people think because Trump is President he can do whatever — not the reality — he’s not Obama who had the support of the NWO hacks throughout Government, the Mainslime Media etc. just the opposite. Given this I see people all the time attacking Trump who completely overlook this reality — happens on UNZ all the time….

  171. Anonymous[517] • Disclaimer says:

    The Jews are out of control. No need for explanation. Just look at the names pushing all this. Been down this road before now it’s time to deal with them again. They don’t respond to kindness or negotiation. They want their own way and will use black people to get it.

    Trump will win. When he does expect a dramatic response from the Jews. An acceleration of what we are seeing. Trump will then have the right to use any and all means necessary, including the military, to eliminate the threat.

    Cops should stop cooperating with liberal authorities. Let protesters storm their neighborhood and homes.

    Deputize citizens and stop arresting those who condemn and fight against this madness.

    Make anti-semitism as popular as anti-Trumpism.

    The Jews will be put on notice. Their utterances and behavior getting them locked up for subversion.

    They are anti-American.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
  172. Realist says:
    @art guerrilla

    IF DJT turns out to be one big psyop and not our last chance to throw off the shackles of the pedo-elite Empire, then my AR can just as easily turn around and point the other direction…
    just sayin’…

    That is most likely the case…a charade. Trump has done too little to drain the swamp. His actions belie his words. He has hired assholes like Bolton and Pompeo.

    • Replies: @art guerrilla
  173. @Emslander

    I was replying to Robert Dolan, whose comments I usually agree with. I responded to some of the points with my own opinion. What’s so hard to understand? Are you a Millennial who needs fewer than 140 characters?

    (What you could do is read Mr. Dolans comment first, then read mine again.)

  174. Realist says:
    @AriusArmenian

    The killing of a Trump supporter in Portland will stir up the mostly conservative and gun owners outside Portland. The crazies in Portland will regret drawing blood and their victory dances.

    I damn well hope so.

  175. anon[209] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dweezil the Weasel

    Mr. Whitney. And are you advocating for martial law

    What a rude question.

    Here you are, a mere commentor on this nice man, Mr. Unz’s website, while prolific Mr. Whitney is a syndicated dissident or something and (haven’t checked) may be even a published author, or possibly “ex-” some shady outfit cum “agency” (like that other prolific Unz column) who has seen the light and is now “informing” us mere commentators and readers about what is going on and what we’re to think.

    And you, mere you, insist on thinking for yourself? Using your head? Casting a cold eye on the “binary divide” and call BS on all these theatrics that require heavy daily dose of digital ink and tweets and armies of twits to keep going?

    How dare you. Rest assured your kind will be the very first that will be rounded up when we “restore peace” to our divided (how did happen O Lord?) nation.

    There.

  176. Anonymous[160] • Disclaimer says:
    @mark green

    Antifa isn’t about a class struggle and they aren’t Marxist. They are simply brownshirts for the totalitarian political movement BLM which has as it’s subject race, just like the National Socialists. This is a fascist moment pure and simple.

    • Replies: @SteveK9
  177. JimDandy says:
    @Escher

    You’re not a troll. I think Trump has not cracked down on Antifa as hard as he could because A.) The media would make him look like a fascist and B.) Antifa is great for Trump.

    But why is/was the Democrat leadership and the anti-Trump media protecting/defending/encouraging Antifa? Could it be that they knew they didn’t have a candidate who could beat Trump, so they are going for a long shot that totally disrupting society would change that reality?

    Biden just asked if anyone honesty thought there would be less violence if he was elected. He is openly admitting, in essence, that he loves what the rioters are doing.

  178. @Getaclue

    Excellent post. This totally sums up the present situation.

    Lots of people are saying that Trump should send in the military or National Guard to quell these bandits. But what if they refuse ? I don’t think they will. But what if part of the military obstruct or fail to comply with this order. This I think much more likely. I’m sure Trump is aware of this.

    A sharply divided military is often the prelude for civil war. Let’s hope not in this case.

  179. SteveK9 says:
    @Anonymous

    I believe Antifa and BLM are part of the larger ‘Social Justice’, ‘Critical Theory’, ‘Woke’ ideology/movement. That includes LGBTQPIUJFYTFJHBLUIHPN as well. I thought this was some casual terminology, but it isn’t. It’s been building for decades. It has virtually taken over Academia and its power in Society is growing. I am thinking of reading this:

    Cynical Theories: How Activist Scholarship Made Everything about Race, Gender, and Identity―and Why This Harms Everybody Hardcover – August 25, 2020
    by Helen Pluckrose (Author), James Lindsay (Author)

    because I want to understand it better, and learn how to fight it (if I can).

  180. Phibbs says:

    The role of the Jews in all this should not be elided. Jews own the mainstream media and the politicians. The Jews brought down imperial Russia in 1917 and it looks like they are up to their old tricks. The Jews are bringing down this country, too.

  181. @V. K. Ovelund

    “What normal 17-year-old with a pulse does not relish the thought of a brawl?”

    Very true! But without the adult support it will not be successful… it will limp along at best to no avail.

    • Thanks: V. K. Ovelund
  182. @anonymous1963

    in Kenosha, 2 dead Jew-communists.

    in Portland, one dead patriotard Trumpchump. Ah,

    good times,

    good times!

  183. Peter Frost says: • Website
    @GreatSocialist

    Trump obviously thinks this fighting will solidify his base or even get him more support. There’s no reason for him to stop it and from his viewpoint every reason to encourage it.

    Then why give him what he wants? That’s the part I don’t understand.

    • Replies: @vot tak
  184. @Realist

    not to get into an endless stream of rationalizations, BUT, having been undermined, cockblocked, stymied, and vilified from before day one of his adminisration BY HIS ‘OWN’ (sic) PARTY, he has been playing with AT LEAST one hand tied behind his back…
    given the incredible conditions he has had to battle against at every turn, including insiders, advisers, etc who are against him, it is semi-amazing he can get ‘his way’ on much of anything… gee, i wonder if that has meant he appoints some Deep State slimeball like bolton to appease some faction, in order to get his way on something else… you know, political horse-trading behind closed doors…
    not to mention, he not only repudiated bolton after the fact, he regularly mocked him when boltons camel nose was inside the trump tent…
    no, i have ZERO love lost for trump, BUT, IF he IS ‘draining the swamp’, it would only make sense to wait until his second term was secured before he made any moves to roll up the pedo-elites… IF he is TRYING to do that, much less succeeds, i will be first in line to throw the rose petals before him…
    …otherwise, well, i won’t be happy, and i am betting a TON of Qanon fans will have pitchforks and torches… they can only be played so long before they figure out the game is forfeited…
    but -realistically- what is the alternative, as far as mainstream political ‘choices’ go, if one believes Empire is propped up by the mutual blackmail/extortion of the pedo-elites ? ? ?
    otherwise, it is the way Empire likes it: heads, Empire wins; tails, you lose…

    • Replies: @Realist
  185. @Getaclue

    … happens on UNZ all the time….

    Oh man, not more of this Alden bit. Listen, I was about to mash [AGREE] till you got to the end, GetaClue. There are plenty of things that President Trump could EASILY have done, completely within the powers of the office. That whole DACA crowd, which will end up in the multiple millions more foreigners living here, could have been sent back via his simply not renewing an Executive Order of Øb☭ma’s (E.O.s being fairly damn unconstitutional to begin with). Just don’t freakin’ renew it!

    Yes, he’s been distracted as hell by the 3 years of Russia-gate BS and now all this. His problem is not all those things – his problem is that he has the attention span of a retarded house cat. You DELEGATE if you are a leader. You don’t drain the swamp by hiring swamp creatures. You get people on your side, and honestly, there has been plenty of patrony(?) over the years, so you just hire someone you trust, whether he knows the particular area or not. The point is to get people working FOR you in the first place, in the executive branch of government, which the President is boss of.

    You get a trusted lawyer friend to handle all of the flak coming at the office, he tells you what to say in the evenings, or tweet, if you can’t get your thumbs under control, and you spend time making strategic moves (if ICE SUV* doesn’t get on the damn agenda, get me a list of who will be fired, this week!) and tactical moves (“Oh, Congresscritter ABC won’t get on board? What does he want really bad for his district, or how can we f__k things up for him, if he doesn’t cooperate?”). This is simply doing the job, and I’d think a guy like Trump would know all about this way to behave.

    BTW, obviously Javanka should be kicked out of the house – they are old enough to go out on their own.

    OK, this is my general beef with the President, not at all anything to do with the riots – I agree with replier VeryMuchAlive.

    .

    * VDare term.

  186. Trinity says:

    Maybe instead of those “Make America Great Again” hats, people will start wearing, “Hitler Was Right” hats. haha. Makes me remember those stupid bumper stickers from the 1990’s, “Rush Is Right.” Yep, Lush Limbaugh, yet another cuckservative who was made rich kissing Jew/Israel ass for decades, and you know Lush knew who really was pulling the strings. These robotic, soulless talking heads like Lush, Pawn Vanity and even Tucker Carlson who do put out partial truths, won’t ever dare mention Jewish power and influence over Antifa, BLM or the destruction of Western Civilization despite it being obvious to anyone with a room temperature IQ. In a way, these partial truth tellers do more harm than the flat out gay commies on CNN and MSNBC.

    • Agree: Stonehands
  187. @Getaclue

    Another thing that I totally forgot, and the last comment got long:

    President Trump is Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces. It is completely within his power to bring troops back from anywhere. (Sure, maybe Congress has to vote on closing bases, but then if no one is manning them…). He would have pleased this guy, along with plenty of independent voters who erroneously may not give a damn about the immigration-invasion but do want the war-mongering ended.

    Tell me, who is actually blocking moves like this?

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  188. @Curmudgeon

    That is absolutely correct. I’ve been trying to make that some point in these threads and on other sites for quite some time, but you say it more succinctly than I do. Thank you. I will save your post.

  189. aandrews says:

    LIVE: Trump holds a press conference

    “Biden won’t even say the name Antifa. I don’t believe he said that. He mentioned others, but he didn’t mention Antifa…I wonder why?” LOL He also describes the rioters as members of the “Biden Party”. To borrow one of his lines: Good stuff! LOL

    He also mentions how the Media describes the protests as peaceful as buildings are burning in the background, an image your humble servant linked to here.

    Trump’s going to kill this election. (As an aside, he looks exhausted.)

    • Replies: @aandrews
  190. Anonymous[194] • Disclaimer says:

    Is this the birth of a WHITE MARTYR…the White sacrificial lamb that will never ,now or ever in History reach the level of Black civil rights saints of the 1960s..KENT state, Mississippi, ….The all powerful MSM will never see him or other fallen white victims of BLMANTIFA as fallen icons of White conservative America…not them they are deplorablesv white privelege Inhuman racists that can and must be shot dead..lynched mobbed kicked beaten torched raped aborted…George Floyd a convicted low life sex CRIMINAL that died as a result of a DRUGGED OVERDOSE…while resisting arrest…sparked a chain of riots lootings beatens etc….This and many other deplorables WHITE victims do not enjoy the status that blacks do…deplorables do not deserve riots, shootings, murals, toppling statues…not them…Braced for whats coming DEM LED MANTIFA terrorism …next is South Africa, Zimbawe, Namibia…WHITE DEPLORABLES RACISTS CONSERVATIVE are NOT humans….the only good white man-woman is a DEAD white man-woman-babies…

  191. @A123

    A virus pretends to be part of the cell it is invading. And it may pretend for some time that it belongs. Then, after it receives some signal, the virus begins to use the cell to replicate its own poisonous alien nature to destroy the cell and the organism. Doesn’t it A123?

    • Replies: @mark green
  192. @Iva

    Lenin was not poor and living in an attic. Volkogonov wrote that he had, as head of the party, an income of three hundred thousand dollars a year He went to Baden Baden and ate in fine restaurants in Paris. The Closerie de Lilas restaurant has a plaque on a table for him. As for the five million dollars, everybody knows Jacob Schiff gave it to him, and more, and Schiff made several thousand percent on his investment in stolen wealth from the executed Russians.

    • Thanks: Trinity
    • Replies: @ivan
  193. vot tak says:
    @Peter Frost

    It’s really pretty simple psywar manipulation, weedhopper, for it to work, they must have an opposition. A controlled opposition.

    Controlled is the operative term here.

  194. annamaria says:
    @TimeTraveller

    Obama and H. Clinton have arranged regime change in Ukraine by cooperating openly with local neo-Nazi (see Bandera and Banderites) and with the blessing of the Lobby (see the names of the current prez and premier-minister of Ukraine). For a time-traveler, you are surprisingly uninformed about the actual political views of the DNC.

    Other amazing achievements of the Obama-Clinton team include the still-ongoing war in Syria (and the US material and financial support for ISIS) and the destruction of Libya; Libya now has flourishing slave markets. Can you read that? Democrats’ policies led to the establishment of slave markets in North Africa. Read again and try to contemplate on the fact for a moment. https://www.thebigsmoke.com.au/2020/06/18/the-slave-trade-is-alive-and-well/

    You are finny with your hapless propaganda on this forum. Was Mr. Adam Schiff your mentor?

  195. aandrews says:
    @aandrews

    23:35, as he was taking questions from the lugenpresse.

  196. Ha ha haaaaaa!

    Watch this, crackers. It’s pure gold:

    • Thanks: Stonehands
    • LOL: Biff
    • Troll: GeneralRipper
  197. @obwandiyag

    “Where are you from, boy?”

    “Nairobi ma’am, isn’t everybody?”

  198. @Larry

    Three fewer thugs on the street is a start.

    • Replies: @Larry
  199. @Alden

    Alden. You are a better commentator than this. Please refrain from referring to the MEN OF UNZ.

    Many people here would support you, but I suspect that a lot are growing weary about hearing this from you. There may be one or two bad apples, but the quality of posters on this site is very high.

    • Replies: @anon
  200. R.C. says:
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    Such lawsuits are going to be happening.
    Beyond that, BLM & Antifa have BIG \$ / ‘deep pockets’ and they will be getting sued too.

  201. In one of his more splenetic moments, Thomas Jefferson proclaimed, “What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. It is its natural manure.”

    I am reminded of the marker I’ve seen on Battle Green at Concord, on the grave of three brave young Britons who gave their lives that April 19th, only, it reads, “to keep the Past upon his throne.”

    Today in America, one faction is under the dead hand of that past, pressed down hard by “the tradition of all dead generations”, the bright rags of “time-honored disguise and borrowed language” fluttering in their eyes, in simulation of liberty.

    That faction’s opponents are not so burdened.

    Even if the past chances to “win” this round this week, this month, this year, we remember what happened to the Sturmabteilung in 1934, once it had outlived its usefulness to its leader.

  202. @Curmudgeon

    They were interested in destroying finance capitalism

    That was also true for Germany’s National Socialists. It’s interesting to me that many more people were aware of who and what the Jewish Banksters were in those days compared to today. In spite of having more control and information at your fingertips, the noose has tightened to the point that if you even broach this subject you are an evilnaziwhowantstokill6millionJews.

  203. The Patriot Prayer cracker was actually Chinese!
    Look at his face!

    • Troll: GeneralRipper
    • Replies: @Wade
  204. Realist says:
    @art guerrilla

    BUT, having been undermined, cockblocked, stymied, and vilified from before day one of his adminisration BY HIS ‘OWN’ (sic) PARTY, he has been playing with AT LEAST one hand tied behind his back…
    given the incredible conditions he has had to battle against at every turn, including insiders, advisers, etc who are against him, it is semi-amazing he can get ‘his way’ on much of anything… gee, i wonder if that has meant he appoints some Deep State slimeball like bolton to appease some faction, in order to get his way on something else… you know, political horse-trading behind closed doors…

    So he is ineffectual?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  205. vot tak says:
    @TimeTraveller

    LOL, reminds of the local hero here, gay edgar hoover, who shared clandestine sex videos of hollywood stars with is mommy.

    These things are as sick gets.

    • Troll: GeneralRipper
    • Replies: @Ugetit
  206. Flubber says:

    One thing for sure – there’s no room any more for giving nutjobs the benefit of the doubt.

    A lot more Antifans are going to get preemptively shot by non Antifans on the basis of “tis better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6”

    • Replies: @vot tak
  207. @Dweezil the Weasel

    “…I will let him come to me.” Keep prepping and planning. Let them come to you.

    That might have worked for Zaitsev at Stalingrad, but it’s suicide in this context — though it has an irresistible emotional appeal to the lazy and unthinking. You can’t possibly win a defensive war, especially from your home address. It’s such a glaringly faulty concept I can’t believe as many maintain this Alamo masturbation fantasy as do — and can’t even remember how that one ended. This was old even in 1993, and should have progressed further by now.

    But it hasn’t. [sigh!]

    Note what has happened to those who demonstratively brandished weapons on their own property in warning to recent aggressively “peaceful protesters” even when they were legally entitled to do so. Remember the recent video of a woman being dragged out of her own home by an Antifas mob?

    In this managed mess, things have to go utterly and hopelessly beyond the tipping point before defensive acts have a prayer, and the smart people will be sure it doesn’t.

    My late political mentor said it perfectly: The next one will be a drop-gun and icepick war.

    Take it to them, in other words.

    • Replies: @Dweezil the Weasel
  208. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @Realist

    So he is ineffectual?

    Reduction of successful and illegal blue-collar border crossings from Mexico to 1/3 of the number back in 2016 Trump used agreements with Mexico and procedural changes in the US. Not bad, considering that he’s had to fight for it every step of the way. Not ineffectual, either.

    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/trump-effect-illegal-border-crossings-are-way-down-128162

    • Replies: @Realist
  209. vot tak says:
    @Flubber

    “One thing for sure”, flubber works for israel.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  210. Svigor says:

    Prediction: Trump will be too busy visiting the likes of Jacob Blake, negro rapist, to even mention the name of Kyle Rittenhouse or the victim in this case, much less lift a finger to help them or their families. If you’re )))White(((, you only matter to the GOP and the orange homo on election day.

    vot tak says:Next New Comment
    August 31, 2020 at 11:56 pm GMT ⇑
    @TimeTraveller
    LOL, reminds of the local hero here, gay edgar hoover, who shared clandestine sex videos of hollywood stars with is mommy.

    These things are as sick gets.

    You’re obviously a homosexual.

    That said, IIRC, JE Hoover a faggot and was in up to his eyeballs with the zhid crime bosses who recorded his shenanigans. So be careful who you criticize – zhids are your team, after all (assuming you aren’t a zhid yourself, which is not at all unlikely).

    • Replies: @Stonehands
  211. Ximenes says:
    @Thomas More

    “American Patriots may be inclined to take action, but if that action gets them 400 years in prison while rioters, looters, and vandals walk free, they won’t”

    What is needed is not patriots, but Christians for whom martyrdom is the object and goal. That is the only force that has successfully contended with Jewish power in the last two thousand years.

  212. @ploni almoni

    A virus pretends to be part of the cell it is invading.

    Camouflage, mimicry and treachery are the flip side of this sordid affair.

    https://bigleaguepolitics.com/over-600-jewish-groups-declare-their-support-for-black-lives-matter-terror-uprising/

  213. Ugetit says:
    @BuelahMan

    …Trump is up to his eyeballs in this jewish activity…

    If anyone doubts this then I’d like to know how Trump’s managed to keep breathing thus far. As for the theft part, you get that as well.

    • Replies: @gsjackson
  214. Farmhand says:

    Time for Trump (or Governors of states with laws that support such) to call forth the Militia. This is exactly the type of problem that the Militia was designed for, in addition to Tyranny. When the Police are hogtied by rules and political correctness, citizens of states and counties can, and should, take care of it.

    • Agree: Majority of One
  215. Farmhand says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Exactly.
    If the President would call forth the Militia (volunteers not dependent on a paycheck) or the State Governors, this would be finished very quickly. The lawless run amok with impunity, but we lawful await the time and place, the official confirmation. They mistake our patience and neighborliness for weakness. BIG mistake.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  216. Hibernian says:

    …but Christians for whom martyrdom is the object and goal.

    So you’re going to volunteer to be first?

  217. Anonymous[194] • Disclaimer says:
    @mark green

    IT was a well planned coordinated executed ASSASSINATION a murder for political gain…the real executioners are the DEM DNC BLMANTIFA terrorists…FBI?

  218. Ugetit says:
    @Alden

    The hidden purpose was to infiltrate dissident subversive revolutionary Whites into government work, especially at managerial levels.

    Yes, and that sort of thing’s been going on for decades. McCarthy was onto them.

  219. Ugetit says:
    @vot tak

    LOL, reminds of the local hero here, gay edgar hoover, who shared clandestine sex videos of hollywood stars with is mommy.

    Typical Commie smear. Those things are as sick as it gets.

    • Troll: vot tak
  220. @Dweezil the Weasel

    Dweezil, I agree with much of what you’re saying. On the other hand, these people yearn for victory.

    As a Vietnam vet you saw 17 year-old “kids” under arms. They were led. With a little experience some of them were capable of self-direction. Think back. I know that you know this.

    Kyle is a late maturing 17 year-old, not an experienced NCO or warrant/company/field-grade officer. He performed the role and movements of a basic rifleman almost flawlessly, without direction, and survived, uninjured. Much of it is videorecorded. Most people, including Boomers, have never seen anything like this before.

    Give credit where it’s due. It was job well-done.

    • Agree: mark green
  221. @S

    Quite right about the trap of dialectical mind-moulding. Take the nefarious two-party system. For years I’ve been maintaining that that duopoly is the whipsaw regime. Voters get tired of getting whipped by the D’s so next go round they become convinced they would be better off getting sawed by the R’s. Back and forth. Forth and back. It’s a big yo-yo, a bit similar to NBA basketball up and down the court and adding up to crazy-assed numbers.

    The entire concept is even more ancient than the “Enlightenment” notions of the likes of Newton and Des Cartes, culminating with Hegel and Marx. We go way, way back to the time of the Roman Empire and the man who set it up by crossing the Rubicon and thus destroying the Republic—J.C. Now I am not referent to Jesus Christ, but to the man after whom the term B.C. was actually dedicated—Julius Caesar. When he attacked Gaul (contemporary France) he followed genocidal policies against the Gaulish people. And he Developed a strategy for ruling the remnants of that folk: “Divide and Conquer/Divide and Rule”.

    As long as WE THE PEOPLE remain artificially divided by clever main-scream propaganda memes, that long will we be ruled via their many minions by the financial elite headed up by the Rothschild and Rockefeller Crime Clans…the globalists and their New World Order agenda. Do NOT vote for either the Demolicans or the Republicrats. They are toxic. Each party likes to present itself and its candidates and agenda as Jesus Christ and their opponents as Godzilla. Many naive Americans fall for the shtick.

    The duopoly parties are run by the DNC and the RNC. As was in Soviet Russia those central committees call the shots for their members. And the little man behind the curtain gives those shotcallers their marching-orders.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  222. gsjackson says:
    @Ugetit

    It’s said that he’s guarded by the equivalent of a brigade, which includes the regular SS types, the Marines and his personal security detail. Zionist tool though he may appear to be, they still send out their media and political minions to attack him every single day 24/7/365, and if this information about his security is true he apparently is quite concerned about his safety.

    Does your moniker, by the way, draw on one of Trump’s well known locutions?

  223. ivan says:
    @ploni almoni

    Lenin was in the main financed by the Kaiser’s intelligence services. It is pretty well known that they sent Lenin across to Finland Station in a train liked a “sealed bacillus” in Churchill’s phrase. Its kinda funny that the Kaiser later ranted that he shouldn’t have trusted the Jews, when he had himself screwed his own blood cousins in Russia. Jews being the great fencers, professional mourners, and all round cheats were of course on hand later to steal the furs, Faberge eggs, jewelry and open-cast strip the assets of the aristocracy, when Lenin had to finance his wars and electrification.

    So many great patriots such as Armand Hammer, made their money that way. And their latter day descendants such as “Bill” Browder follow in the train.

  224. @Curmudgeon

    Sorry! You are absolutely wrong. Real anarchists were against inheritance of power and inheritance of property. Any property. They wanted new system which they did not really defined.
    (Because they did not clearly define the new system that is why they were called anarchists.)
    Anarchist means a person who wants to destroy the existing system but he himself does not know what he wants.

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  225. anon[161] • Disclaimer says:
    @Larchmonter420

    Give it a rest. @North Cascadian spoke as one completely ignorant of the subject. “…possible that this is a false flag…” Well, maybe if Robert Evans had been the shooter. And there ARE cell phone videos. And an at-the-scene audio. Do you think the Deep State was grooming and mind-controlling Michael Reinoehl for years?
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/police-investigating-antifa-supporter-michael-reinoehl-in-portland-shooting-11598904528

    PHOTOS of Reinoehl
    https://www.nationalistreview.net/2020/08/31/we-reached-out-to-police-sister-of-portland-assassin-rolls-on-her-brother/

  226. @Agent76

    You have it upside down. Trump does need white supremacists.
    It is white supremacists who need a leader.
    I do not think that Trump would go as far that he would risk it. After all Trump has too much to loose.
    But if there would be civil war and white supremacist would be winning than maybe.
    Even in that case it will be quite uncertain.

  227. @anon

    It is because here on UNZ we behave as civilized people.

  228. Trinity says:

    “Our” leaders are either number one: COWARDS, or number two: IN ON THIS DESTRUCTION OF TRADITIONAL AMERICA, or number three: COWARDS that are going along because they are compromised to the hilt, and that INCLUDES THE LOVABLE LOSERS KNOWN AS THE REPUBLICANTS and quite possibly even Trump and the Javanka ensemble. NO DOUBT that (((Javanka))) is not about to oppose the riots. “Our” President and the (((republicants))) have done very little if anything to quell these violent riots that have resulted in tens of deaths, millions of dollars of worth of property damage, rapes, businesses being lost, etc. Once again, the OPENLY anti-White (((demsheviks))) do whatever the hell they want to do and the (((totally controlled opposition known as the republicants))) do what they do best, NOTHING. Same scenario has been happening since the departure of the Dixiecrats ( probably the only TRUE democrats that were ever for the working class Whites in America, with the possible exception of POS like Carter and LBJ) from the South in the 1970s.

    This whole PLANNED Jewish Bolshevik operation is just the same old tune that has been played before in places like France, Spain, and the Soviet Union, and was even attempted in Germany before Hitler leveled it for at least a few years. Watched Tucker Carlson show tonight and he asked a guest why (((the people in charge of funding these riots))) haven’t been prosecuted under the RICO laws that has in the past nailed mobsters, outlaw bikers, etc? I think we all know the answer to that question, don’t we? The whole damn system is either bought off or corrupt to the core. This problem could instantaneously be solved even by a middle school kid if he was presented with the facts of the case. We all know one certain name keeps popping up when it comes to who Daddy Warbucks is when it comes to funding these organizations like (((Antifa))) and (((BLM)) and I am sure it runs even deeper, many more (((influential rich and powerful people))) who wish to turn this country into a shithole for God only knows why.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @American Citizen 2.0
  229. TKK says:
    @Alden

    Waffle House is the” go to” employer for people on parole. They have a memorandum of understanding with several Department of Corrections in the Southeast.

    It’s good for them to work. The food is dirt cheap, poorly prepared and they pay them minimum wage.

    So, Waffle House winks and laughs all the way to the bank. It’s a privately held company for a reason.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  230. @Erostratus

    Erostratus: My bad for not clarifying things. I did not mean to sit and wait at my home until the enemy is at the gates. I live in Kootenai County, ID. A few months ago, when the Spokane County ANTIFA decided to come over to Coeur d’Alene and burn businesses, a large group of unorganized, armed militia patrolled the business area for days. When a carload or two of Soros’ useful idiots did show up, they decided discretion was the better part of valor. After a few off-color, childish invectives, they left. The irony of this is the mealy-mouthed leftists, Karens, and Beta Males on the CDA City Council were forced to congratulate the local gunslingers! The business community insisted.
    I have a huge field of fire around my house and neighbors who kill salmon and Bambi for sport. They were downtown to give pause to the Spokane Marxists. Range cards have been all made out. The lines of drift along the BNSF line have been plotted and are under observation. With four public shooting ranges within a 5-mile radius, the rat line of intel is quite extensive.

    • Replies: @Bill P
  231. anon[161] • Disclaimer says:
    @Genrick Yagoda

    ….the quality of posters on this site is very high.

    So they tell themselves.

  232. Neoconned says:
    @mark green

    I don’t think its the beginning of an escalation or something of that sort even though some on both sides want to see it as a 1920s “Germany street war” thing between Reds & Browns.

    I hate to demean all this but those out there in Portland(a fringe city of 3rd rate importance at that) are the type left or right who are looking for trouble. In the age of social media random regional conflagrations of violence seem local and focused when they aren’t.

    People looking for trouble tend to find it & those who don’t don’t.
    We had big BLM protests from 2014 to 2017…..thats already dated….

    The only thing i will admit….i was tuning on the radio the other day and happened to catch that dude Bud Sexton. He noted how surprised he was how nobody talks about the Middle East any more….

    I’ve also noted the sharp turn in the last few yrs from naval gazing while we focus “outward” at affairs abroad & now we are sharply turning our focus inward as ppl begin talking crazy sh*t like civil war, militias, paramilitaries, rioting etc

    1 issue i think many fail to catch….with the decline of our manufacturing base its not like the 1960s….protesters can’t fall back on the local shipyard or steel mill with a guaranteed pension and health insurance etc….

    Many of these protesters are literally unemployable or at best underemployed. Imagine if you’re 40 years old like half these protesters and your only opportunity is Burger King even though that’s the same garbage job you had in high school…..hell the service economy isn’t all its cracked up to be is it?

  233. ariadna says:
    @Escher

    “This violence is too well-planned and executed to be a a spontaneous uprising.
    Could it even be the Trump team doing it..”

    So you are saying that something well-planned and executed is impossible to achieve by the Democrats? If so, stupidity and incompetence is hardly a recommendation to vote for them.

  234. Bill P says:
    @Dweezil the Weasel

    I was just there a month ago (took my son fishing on the Coeur d’Alene river — gorgeous stream BTW) and the locals told me about this incident. Good on them, but my impression was that despite their effective thwarting of BLM in CDA, they didn’t take the political threat seriously enough.

    I don’t mean to say you should go civil war ii on these people (yet), but being from western WA, I see the threat in every public agency, university and even community college and public school. Ban public sector unions and purge the UoI commies from Moscow. Be ruthless like they are with us.

    They will start showing up there soon, and you won’t even notice them at first. They’ll be working in air-conditioned offices, they’ll be going to liberal churches to claim they’re Christian, and they’ll play nice and appeal to your common decency. Don’t buy it!

    Hopefully, I’ll be there soon, too. I’ll do my best to sniff them out and warn you. In the meanwhile, don’t be complacent.

  235. RobinG says:
    @Thomas More

    You remember wrong. Kyle Rittenhouse was/is NOT charged with murder.
    The charge is intentional homicide. Look up the difference.
    HOMICIDE vs. MURDER

    • Replies: @vot tak
  236. @Escher

    This violence is too well-planned and executed to be a a spontaneous uprising.
    Could it even be the Trump team doing it to provoke a backlash from the silent majority against the democrats?

    … or could it be well-funded anti-White genocidal Jews, carried out the Judaic imperative to eliminate Whites (“whiteism”)?

    (((You))) know all about that, don’t (((you))).

    • Replies: @Escher
  237. Substitute ‘democratic party’ for ‘the media’ … and the story still plays the same.

    ‘The media’ is the propaganda arm of the democratic party in the same fashion that antifa is the armed militia of the democratic party or that the blm movement is the hand on the tiller of the democratic party.

  238. @Oldtradesman

    Interesting. The legal team behind that site have won hundreds of millions in judgments in recent years. Their client list runs the gamut, to say the least. I’ll be keeping an eye on them.

  239. @No Friend Of The Devil

    People keep repeating that the president can’t deploy the National Guard unless the local authorities ask him to. That is uninformed (or, in some cases, mendacious) b.s. Every state National Guard is part of the U.S. Army. As the president is the commander-in-chief, he has full authority over the Army, including the National Guard. That authority has been used a number of times, notably by Dwight Eisenhower in order to “integrate” (i.e. destroy) Little Rock’s Central High School. Needless to say, good old Ike’s actions were entirely against the will of the local governor and mayor, but that didn’t matter because the president has ultimate authority over the National Guard. Trump doesn’t lack the authority to put down the rioting and looting rabble using the National Guard; he lacks the backbone.

    • Replies: @botazefa
  240. @TimeTraveller

    Thanks, there TT; you crazy fuck. ( it takes one to know one )
    That’s the last revolutionary gasp on the formerly wild west internet.

    Voxnews.

    Hurry, it ain’t gonna be up long.

    • Agree: TimeTraveller
  241. @TimeTraveller

    Here’s a good one, too!

    Cliff notes for flag-waving patriotards:

    • Agree: TimeTraveller
    • Replies: @TimeTraveller
    , @Poco
  242. Mike G says:

    After reading some of the comments on this thread pretty obvious it is end of time

  243. @Svigor

    Haha. A lot of delusional people here. Still paying yids 150 bux/month to have the talmudvision propaganda pumped into their over-priced mortgaged to-the-eyeballs cucksheds.

    Additional interest-bearing tribute to have their spawn indoctrinated at the vile Marxist universities. ( status- seekers bowing and scraping at their master’s feet )

    The submission to the face diaper; the beatings in the street. ( administered often enough by their own race)

    And so it goes. As the indignities race towards denouement.

    Like a battered house wife, the patriotards pray cringily for Trump –

    “He’ll be better this time.”

    • Agree: Svigor
  244. Neoconned says:
    @Dweezil the Weasel

    Actually “a dish best served cold….” is a joke from a Star Trek movie lol but whos counting….

  245. Larry says:
    @ThreeCranes

    The next Kyle might end up dead, blood on your hands.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  246. @Stonehands

    I love Harry Vox and can’t get enough of him, but the Patriot Prayer and Proud Boys are controlled by the same people.

    It doesn’t change or prevent me from supporting or profiting from the collapse of golem society.

    • Replies: @Trinity
  247. @Larry

    Not on mine. I didn’t encourage him, but I do applaud anyone who defends themselves. As Hobbes said, no government has the right to force an individual to do himself in or to commit harm to himself. The right to self defense is central to English Common Law.

    Personally, I would not allow an antifa to put a bullhorn in my face and scream at me. That is assault. And not figuratively speaking either. Sound waves displace molecules. Molecules are real, tangible things. They impinge on eardrums. Above a certain level, they cause damage to the sensitive receiving structures in the ear.

    Antifa protesters are not affected since they have lost most of their hearing because they listened to too much crappy music through bud-like headphones, but normal people are not so handicapped. A person with a bullhorn or air-powered nautical horn can easily damage your ears–and the damage in irreversible. An individual has the right to defend yourself against such an assault. Hopefully, some such case will make it to court. The science is beyond question.

    If and when someone shoots one of these bull-horn toting bastards, I will applaud. And if their blood is, as you say, somehow on my hands–though I fail to see how that could be since I’m recommending that they don’t bullhorn someone to begin with–then so what? Wouldn’t bother me a bit.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  248. @Ray Huffman

    “They’re mercenaries who don’t give a damn about you or your family.”

    So then why are they risking their lives trying to remove dangerous criminal cretins from the streets like George Floyd and Jacob Blake? I haven’t seen a salary schedule for Kenosha cops, but I’m guessing no self-respecting “mercenary” would put his life on the line for such puny wages.

    Just a couples of “clues” you might want to consider.

  249. Realist says:
    @Anonymous

    It is sickening to hear Trump and his lackeys with their bullshit…Promises made…Promises kept

    That is such blatant bullshit. All politicians are lying scum.

  250. @Achmed E. Newman

    Thanks. I agree with you about Trump. If he were more politically astute or legally aware, he might have taken actions, outlined by you, which might have aided his cause.
    However, this might have resulted in an early indictment, deposition or assassination.
    Despite bending over for Israel, the Zionist MSM hate him even more, as do the vast majority of Jewish voters. Appeasement has not worked.

  251. vot tak says:
    @RobinG

    “You remember wrong. Kyle Rittenhouse was/is NOT charged with murder.
    The charge is intentional homicide. Look up the difference.
    HOMICIDE vs. MURDER”

    Another typical rightwing “expert”. 😀

    I’ll look it up for him.

    The Differences Between Murder and Homicide Charges

    https://www.crooks-law.com/murder-homicide-charge-differences/

    “As with certain other provisions of Wisconsin’s criminal code, the ways in which Wisconsin law defines homicide charges are somewhat unique. Specifically, technically speaking, there is no crime of “murder” in Wisconsin (aside from felony murder, which is discussed below). Instead, the offense commonly referred to as murder in other states is classified as “intentional homicide” in Wisconsin.”

  252. vot tak says:

    The zionazi-gays go to the next stage of their psywar campaign.

    Trump Says ‘Revolution’ Will Occur in US If Biden Becomes President

    https://sputniknews.com/us/202009011080333153-trump-says-revolution-will-occur-in-us-if-biden-becomes-president/

    “Biden won’t calm things down,” Trump said. “They will take over. They will have won. If Biden gets in, they will have won. He’s a weak person. He’s controlled like a puppet. So it’s not going to be calm … They will have taken over your cities. It’s a revolution. You understand that. It’s a revolution and the people of this country will not stand for that.”

    According to Trump, funding for the “revolution” is coming from “very stupid rich people that have no idea that if their thing ever succeeded, which it won’t, they would be thrown to the wolves like never before.”

    The banana republic just got more banana republic.

    • Troll: GeneralRipper
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  253. Escher says:
    @Pat Kittle

    (((No))), (((I))) (((don’t))) (((.)))

  254. @Morosamguten...

    Good point about #4 buck. 00 can be lethal even at longer range.

  255. trickster says:

    Well ,Fall approaches and people generally have long started to not give a shit about Covid 19, Covid 20.5, the second wave or whatever. The news pimps (I mean the news Editors) seem to have run out of fresh daily ideas to spin the story, Fauci and Birx bray to a disinterested audience and even our resident Unz expert Karlin ( our brilliant millions of people will die fortune teller) has run out of statistics and colourful graphs. The public has long ceased fighting over ass wiping paper and masks are passe even as designer wear, strewn all over the place except in garbage cans.

    All this drama, followed the hype of Russia collusion and FSB/ KGB agents lurking in every glory hole establishment looking to subvert democracy and free elections.

    For those who believed we would have a momentary respite and could live a few months in relative boredom it is not to be. The news beast must be fed so now we have (trumpets please) the riots, looting, burning, shootings, beatings starring Antifa, BLM, a motley assortment of black and white youth who should be in school and who knows which other ne’erdowells, malingerers and malignant rascals. We even had rappers taking over cities I mean:

    [MORE]

    I had a little Homie his name was Raz
    Motherfucker OG took over Chaz
    A hard ass nigga running the Town
    Fuck the Police, Am a bring dem down

    etc etc… The Trickster has lyrical talent no ?

    Now as every blogger, talking head and ordinary citizen with the IQ of a worm joins the momentous debate we are confronted with the following mysteries:
    -Are Jews involved ?
    -Did we see Soros in Kenosha ?
    -Is the FBI and CIA running the show ?
    -Is Trump setting up the Dems ?
    -Are the Dems setting up Trump ?
    -Are they setting up each other ?
    -Will there be martial law ?
    -And if martial law will there be mandatory vaccines ?
    -Will the UN be sending in troops to take over ?
    -Will there be a shortage of toilet paper ?
    -Is there a worldwide conspiracy involving the Warburgs, Gates, the Clintons ?
    -Are the Jews running the Chimps ?
    -Will climate change have any effect on the rioters ?
    – Are the (well fill in the blanks………..)

    And so as the world turns and the sun sets eternally in the west , the circus show must go on.

    Lets see, we have 2 more months before elections and by sheer coincidence before winter sets in.

    The Trickster, who can trace his ancestry to African witch doctors, Native Shamen and Nostradamus, who has had his crystal ball cleaned and consulted with the top mediums and spritualists will make the following prediction: We have 2 more months of this shit before another drama comes to light and we start the whole process all over again.

    Two more months folks before we move to the next load of bullshit ! ENJOY !

  256. Hibernian says:
    @TKK

    A return of the convict leasing system, after a fashion?

  257. @Getaclue

    I do not disagree with your rebuttal to my post. But I was only specifically referring to the incident when Trump’s guests left the WH grounds. I never said it was Trump’s fault. The fault lies with whoever was in charge of ensuring that the guests made it out safely. They should have known that the DC police, under the direction of its Trump-hating BLM mayor, wasn’t up to the job.

  258. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @Majority of One

    The duopoly parties are run by the DNC and the RNC.

    You’re right, these two parties are toast. DNC is breaking up into ethnic components, whether it wins this next election or not. It can’t rule, so if it wins the 2020/11 election and sets up a “permanent government”, that government will not last. S. Africa can have ethnic government because it has the Zulus. The US has nothing like that.
    By the same token, if the RNC wins this next election, it still has nobody to replace Trump when he can’t govern anymore (gets too old to govern or in 2024, whichever it is). Same problem the RF has with Putin. For the RNC to pick a successor to Trump, it would have to be something other than what it is. If the RNC can’t pick a successor to Trump that can provide equivalent leadership, it goes to join the Whigs.

  259. Trinity says:
    @TimeTraveller

    Lemme guess, you are the typical Jew. You are a coward afraid of physical confrontation, or at least a fair fight. Good example are the Israelis and their “battles” with rock throwing Palestinians or how you meekly surrendered to Germans who had enough of your shit, after welcoming the Jew with open arms as they were fleeing Russia. You are the typical Jewish male, inept physically, no talent or desire to build anything, no artistic ability, you have only treachery, hate, deception. You are the typical lying vermin and schizophrenic, delusional, sociopath that is so common among (((people of your descent,))) who is often a sexual deviant as well. This could very well be the result of inbreeding or bad genetics.

    • Agree: BloodSpirit
    • Replies: @TimeTraveller
  260. @Escher

    Ted Wheeler would have called out the police if he thought it was anyone other than his thugs out there doing damage.

  261. Svigor says:
    @RoatanBill

    You’re a lying piece of shit.

    You’re a paid shill working for antifa’s bosses and pretending to not be what you are, a far-left or jevvish dirtbag. Your name’s probably literally Shlomo and you probably have a Tel Aviv IP addy.

    The bit where you created a false equivalency between the left and the right here is extremely jevvish. The left is responsible for all the violence, period. The right’s very limited response is just that, a response to the insane levels of lawlessness and rioting and violence that have come from the antifa and BLM for five or six months now, all across America. You jevvs don’t get to burn our neighborhoods down and then claim provocation when we come out armed to prevent you wreaking further destruction.

    Creating false equivalence between the Rittenhouse self-defense shootings and the antifa’s cold-blooded murder of Danielson from ambush is about as jevvish-bolshevik as it gets.

    No one’s buying your bullshit except your paid shill (((friends))).

    And antifa LARPing as anti-establishment rebels on behalf of the jevvish regime running Weimerica isn’t strange at all; the regime is simply getting what it pays for; extrajudicial mercenaries doing the dirty work official regime employees can’t be seen doing (suppressing the White goyim).

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  262. Svigor says:

    BtW, this “a pox on both their houses” phony moral equivalency thing is PRECISELY the line “mainstream” (paid oligarch mouthpiece) jevvish “right-wingers” (neokahns) are taking. So TelAvivBill has that going for him. That’s who he sounds like: some faggot jevvish neocon nevertrumper.

  263. @Svigor

    You apparently live in some fantasy world where everything you can possibly imagine must be fact.

    I’m an atheist, former catholic. I live in the Caribbean and no one pays me a nickle for my posts. You are delusional as well as foul mouthed.

    If you want to counter my posts, do so without attacking me personally and supply some logic bereft of things you can’t possibly prove.

    I wasn’t going to bother with a reply, since you’ve made the same inane comments about me personally before, which I did ignore considering the level of trash prose involved, but I’m just getting tired of you stalking me just to run your mouth off.

    Counter my arguments if you can, or just shut up.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  264. Wade says:
    @TimeTraveller

    False. I think “Daniel-Son” is Japanese. 🙂

  265. Svigor says:
    @RoatanBill

    1. Even if we accept your story at face value, it just makes you a coward who ran away to retirementville and is now shamed by the bravery of men like Rittenhouse, which shame you then sublimate into attacks on his character and behavior. IoW, at best you’re still a piece of shit.

    2. We all noticed how you criticized Rittenhouse for defending himself, then criticized Danielson for getting himself murdered from ambush. So you’re more interested in criticizing your supposed “allies” whatever they do, and not your supposed “enemies,” whatever they do; we aren’t buying your bullshit story, Shlomo.

    “Foul mouthed”

    Some times the best policy is just to call a piece of shit (i.e., you) a piece of shit. Get your shit squared away, or fuck off, and I won’t need to chastise you again.

    • Agree: GeneralRipper
    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  266. Svigor says:

    I’m an atheist, former catholic.

    I knew you wouldn’t deny being a jevv*. Jevvs can almost never deny being jevvish, because tribal loyalty, and buttgoys often can’t, either, because they’re incapable of even the iota of criticism of jevvs inherent to denying being one.

    *No, saying you’re an atheist or a Catholic or a former Catholic isn’t a denial, stop trying to be cute.

    I’m not a jevv. See? That’s a straightforward denial.

  267. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @vot tak

    Trumps comments on Biden and revolution are here:

    “Biden won’t calm things down,” Trump said. “They will take over. They will have won. If Biden gets in, they will have won. He’s a weak person. He’s controlled like a puppet. So it’s not going to be calm … They will have taken over your cities. It’s a revolution. You understand that. It’s a revolution and the people of this country will not stand for that.”

    https://sputniknews.com/us/202009011080333153-trump-says-revolution-will-occur-in-us-if-biden-becomes-president/

    This is the year that the government money runs out, and the cities either establish totalitarian rule or they cannot support their populations (270 million people out of 330 million total for the US).

    According to Trump, funding for the “revolution” is coming from “very stupid rich people that have no idea that if their thing ever succeeded, which it won’t, they would be thrown to the wolves like never before.”

    https://sputniknews.com/us/202009011080333153-trump-says-revolution-will-occur-in-us-if-biden-becomes-president/

    President Trump calls this perfectly — the first thing the totalitarian government would do is confiscate all remaining private wealth (or, for overseas rich, confiscate all US assets and try for overseas assets as well). The second thing the totalitarian government would do is spend that wealth on political infighting.

    This is quite a relief. Trump does seem to understand what he’s seeing.

    • Replies: @MrVoid
    , @vot tak
  268. @Svigor

    All your assertions are wrong. You apparently have a reading comprehension deficit.

    I said several times I hope Kyle gets off and once that if I were on the jury he would definitely get off. So, I’m not anti Kyle. I’m anti an immature boy openly carrying a weapon into a war zone and expecting a good outcome. What he did was stupid in my opinion and the results bear this out.

    As for the pro Trump person killed, he too flaunted is colors in front of the other gang and that was also not the smartest thing to do, which the events confirm.

    Both sides aren’t helping matters by ratcheting up the violence.

    I ask you – if Kyle was your son and he told you he was going into town with a plainly visible AR to mingle with the leftist cretins, would you have applauded his intentions or tried to talk him out of it?

    I learned long ago, never wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it.
    George Bernard Shaw

    This is my last reply to you as you’re too filthy to deal with.

    • Replies: @Svigor
    , @Zarathustra
  269. Poco says:
    @Stonehands

    I’m not exactly clear on your meaning. Are you saying that the FBI, CIA, and NSA are controlling Antifa and for that reason should not be resisted. To resist antifa is playing right into the hands of the security agencies but to acquiesce to the demands of antifa, who the security agencies control, is in fact, resisting the security agencies? Just trying to understand the point.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  270. MrVoid says:
    @Anonymous

    Except he’s wrong. The rich people aren’t stupid, and they won’t surrender their wealth. Trump is just one of those people who thinks that communism is still the plan. It stopped being the plan about 25 years ago. If the left succeeds, America will look something like South Africa. The super wealthy will be able to hold on to their assets, while other people will be eaten alive by inflation. Jews will have the luxury of departing for Israel.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  271. Poco says:
    @RoatanBill

    Piss on elections.
    The deep state is the enemy.
    The deep state is the FBI, CIA, woke corporations, etc..
    The FBI, CIA, etc. control, encourage, bankroll antifa.
    If anyone says a fuck you to the deep staters then they are “inciting” the deep staters to do their nefarious deeds.

    I disagree. Let’s suppose Trump IS just another deep state flunky. Trump, the democrats, the republicans, all deep staters. Wouldn’t it still be incumbent to give a hearty fuck you to all of them? And if they all are part of the deep state and run blm/antifa it would be important to resist. Make one’s voice heard.

    Trump, Biden, parties are immaterial to this. Violence was begun by the blm/antifa deepstate dupes. It wasn’t incited by regular people. They may be tools but those tools must be crushed.

  272. Something must be done. Without order, there can be no commerce, no security and no civilization. Our streets belong to the American people, not a raucous mob that rules through violence and intimidation.

    To be more precise, the streets belong to the American government, the behavior of which represents the will of the American people to an unknown extent, and the mobs also are made of American people and represent the will of an unknown percentage of Americans. The African American slaves, for example, must have prayed against the USA and white imperialism: their prayers are being answered right now. The whites did not repent hard enough, and now the ones repenting are irreligious or atheist so God might not care.

    Furthermore, the US stole most of its land and doesn’t honor treaties, so we need to also consider the general interests of humanity and the wishes of the indigenes who have stronger claims on the land. Many foreigners don’t mind seeing this country getting a taste of its own “medicine”, after causing so much anarchy abroad. Some Indigenes might be happy to see the genocidal Empire and its pretentious, extremely destructive excuse for a “civilization” finally crumbling; certainly, a part of the green and diversity-loving Left would be glad to put some Indigenes in charge again.

    It’s amazing how people just take for granted that the existence and prosperity of this country is good and should be sought even at the expense of a hundred other nations.

    Every revolution and descent into anarchy is an opportunity for worsening or improvement. We’ll just have to wait this out and see which forces prevail. Unlike Syria or Yemen or Ukraine, the USA is hurting many other countries: many oppressed people stand to benefit from our suffering, even if it doesn’t end well for US.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  273. @Colin Wright

    Don’t worry! You are way too uncouth to claim to be Romans. Roman decadence is not anything for you to fear, and anyway it was so slow that all good people had the time to move to the far better built Constantinople or even closer cities in Italy whose future was brighter, mostly for better employment, better business opportunities, as the Near East has always been richer in consumers and producers, and for health reasons, as the main reason that made Rome dwindle was the Pontine marshes extending and spreading malaria. But you are not in any kind of Rome. You are in Carthage, the most money-minded empire ever, now resorting to black magic and child sacrifice to keep its right to print all the world’s money. You didn’t listen to Cato. Scipio is coming. It won’t take four centuries but four days to engulf your whole country in an ocean of fire. Blood-soaked anarchy is what characterized the anglo-saxon way of life as America was still young and growing compared to all other nations it vanquished, even in comparison to colonial Spain.

  274. Poco says:
    @Alden

    Retreat is all the armchair quarterback “analyst” types know. They decry the condition of the country but refuse to endorse any kind of action by those they should be supporting. To hell with the analysis George Will wannabes.

    • Agree: Trinity, GeneralRipper
  275. @Poco

    It should be obvious that elements IN our government support Antifa and BLM….

    the DNC/ADL/SPLC/FBI/CIA.

    There is no other way to explain why they have allowed the rioting and killing to go on for so long.

    You can say, “Oh, it’s the Democrat mayors and governors and Trump can’t do anything!”

    I’m old enough to know better because I’ve seen the Feds go in if it’s a situation where whites can be fucked over. The Feds never miss a chance to screw white people in every way possible. And this is because small hats run our government.

    Antifa and BLM are stupid frontline soldiers for the small hats.

    Notice that NOBODY in the GOP says or does anything about the rioting and killing. They are all hiding under their beds scared to death that the small hat media will call them racists.

    What a sad mess.

    • Agree: GeneralRipper, MrVoid
    • Replies: @Trinity
  276. @Ma Laoshi

    Paul J. Watson is a fag and deep state op

    • Replies: @Parsnipitous
  277. Trinity says:
    @Robert Dolan

    I’m all out of “Agree” tags, so I’ll just say your comment is SPOT ON.

  278. botazefa says:
    @Ray Caruso

    You are correct that The President can deploy the National Guard:

    In 2006, Congress passed the 2007 National Defense Authorization Act, which gave the president the authority to mobilize National Guard units within the U.S. without the consent of state governors.

    I disagree with you that Trump hasn’t done so due to lack of backbone. Or, at least, there is an alternate explanation. Given that BLM, antifa, rioters, looters are overwhelmingly Democrats, and understanding that the DNC is directly supportive of BLM, and it being an election year, Trump should not call out the National Guard unless requested to do so. To do otherwise would be a political gamble at best.

    A wise person with backbone has the discipline not to be drawn into a fight. The protesters (and DNC/Biden) want a confrontation with troops gunning people down in the streets. It plays into their narrative that Trump is an authoritative white supremacist personality. Trump should not take the bait.

  279. @vot tak

    That’s for sure. Vot Tak knows who is a hidden Mossad man but he doesn’t know who isn’t.

  280. @Zarathustra

    My reference was “the original anarchists”. The original anarchist was Pierre-Joseph Proudhon who, at first thought capitalism could be reformed, and saw co-ops as the inheritors to finance capitalism. He referred to Marx who stole and twisted many of his ideas, as “the tapeworm in socialism”.
    Anarchy is literally “without structure” the reference was to “big government”. Co-ops require structure. Co-ops compete with other co-ops in the market. No real socialist then, or now, would deny his family the inheritance of his personal property. Even a communist would not claim a dead man’s watch belonged to the state.
    There is no question that they resented large landowners, but 200 years ago, real property was a source of wealth, from its produce, that became finance capital.

  281. Peter Frost says: • Website

    Furthermore, the US stole most of its land

    Most of that stealing took place literally centuries ago. Settlement of the Thirteen Colonies began in the early 1600s. By the time of the Revolution a specifically American culture and people had already come into being.

    Keep in mind that “indigenous” is a relative term. You’re indigenous not because your ancestors have always lived on your land but because they, at some point, seized control of that land and made it theirs.

    Does that sound immoral? Well, morality doesn’t matter over the long run. It’s a social construct that we created to make our societies livable during the time of our existence. Was it “unfair” for modern humans to steal Europe from the Neanderthals? Well, the question is absurd.

    Our notions of fairness were meant for people living today in our society. If you try to extend those notions indefinitely across time and space, you will only succeed in destroying yourselves.

    So, please, get real. There is hardly any land on this planet that did not once belong to another people. Maybe you were asleep in class when your teacher mentioned that fact.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
    , @Menes
  282. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @MrVoid

    Except he’s wrong.

    OK, that’s one person heard from. Anybody else?

    • Replies: @MrVoid
  283. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @ContrarianKen

    It’s amazing how people just take for granted that the existence and prosperity of this country is good and should be sought even at the expense of a hundred other nations.

    Gee, isn’t it common knowledge that countries are in competition? Are we to be responsible for the existence and prosperity of a hundred other nations? In other words, do you support Bush II’s foreign policy?

    Oh, but wait– that was intervention done wrong. If you do it, it would be done right, you being superhuman and all.

  284. Erostratus says: • Website
    @Zarathustra

    Anybody knows what is precise and concise definition of racial justice?

    I am so glad you asked. Virtually nobody realizes that there is one, thinking it to be just some vague term to suggest an empath’s “better world.”

    It’s not.

    Social justice is an intentional replacement for

    natural justice

    .

    Example: In the case of

    natural justice

    , if a man is assaulted, beaten and robbed and the guilty party is caught, he will be tried, convicted and jailed. This is presumptively the position of the “reasonable man.”

    However, in an example of

    social justice

    , the above facts remain completely the same, but with these added details: The victim is white and prosperous, with a nice home and car. His ancestors may have even owned slaves. The perpetrator is black, poor, drug-addicted and may bear numerous other liabilities.

    Guilt and innocence now become reversed. The victim becomes the black man who is materially and spiritually deprived as a result of the presumably unearned and guilty wealth of the white man, who is regarded as a class enemy and who additionally shares and inherits the onus of his forebears. The black man’s innocence may even be plead in a “black rage” defense.

    Class enemies were liquidated in their millions from the earliest days of the Soviet Union and succeeding communist states, even when they were objectively blameless. Personal innocence is a mere detail with no merit; if one looks like a class enemy, he is one, which is what must be remembered.

    I am a legal pauper and descended of an illiterate white slave, the personal chattel property of the Governor of Virginia colony prior to the introduction of black servitude. I have no expectation of “justice,” social or otherwise.

    Thank you for your question!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  285. MrVoid says:
    @Anonymous

    OK you wanted more replies, so I’ll indulge you with a second one. Since I ran out of my supply of crystal balls, I’m not really sure of any future eventuality. I believe that South-Africanization with the super-wealthy holding onto their assets is the left’s overarching plan but, yes, it could backfire. A Stalin or a Velasquez could arrive on the scene and scuttle the plan, seizing privately held assets from the rich. I do think it’s possible, and if that’s what Trump is alluding to then he could be right. But it’s not the left’s plan, and Trump should acknowledge that. The plan is to hold on to stuff and stick it to everyone else.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  286. @Johnny Smoggins

    Drudge, Breitbart (Bannon), Alex Jones (at least married to and covering for), Jordan Peterson – don’t they all find their Inner Jew in the end?

    Then you have the likes of Ben Shapiro and Mark Steyn, etc, etc ad nauseam.

    Here’s a list of 100 top “conservative” sites:

    https://stoppingsocialism.com/2020/01/top-conservative-websites/

    I don’t know many of them well. How many are NOT: 1) controlled by ultimately tribal Jews or 2) afraid to touch the JQ with a 10-foot-pole?

    Same shit on the left (see Chris Hitchens).

    • Agree: GeneralRipper
  287. Anon[367] • Disclaimer says:
    @Yukon Jack

    Now it’s evident why the term N–ger was invented by someone. Does anyone know if the man is alive? The laughter, is evidence of deformed brains. The democrats support of this stuff, they need not bother to deny it, their hateful rants about whites and white privilege having gone on now for years, being what indicts them.

  288. @Parsnipitous

    Somebody up-thread also mentioned Joey Gibson, Patriot Prayer organizer, who also went to Hong Kong “to help”.

    (Nothing against Patriot Prayer foot soldiers, but it just may be that they were set up.)

    I find it VERY hard to believe that you can be against BLM/Antifa rioters, but welcome the exact thing in Hong Kong. I know, there are some anti-China patriots, but they are, I’m afraid, confused. Their “influencers” are at least duplicitous, but probably cynical.

  289. Sulu says:
    @Escher

    It’s the Jews, stupid!

    Sulu

    • Replies: @Svigor
  290. American Citizen 2.0 says:
    @Trinity

    I think they sincerely believe that they are creating a new culture without racial bias. So they want new norms to emerge by challenging everything they can involving the old values. They are culture warriors who believe in a completely different kind of culture than one wherein a white Christian male in a heterosexual marriage would be the primary source of norms in America. The baseline can be set by a different ethnic group and government can focus its resources primarily on meeting those needs.

  291. Svigor says:
    @RoatanBill

    All your assertions are wrong. You apparently have a reading comprehension deficit.

    So much for your pretense to intellectual rigor; the obvious alternative to “a reading comprehension deficit” (midwit poseur much?) is that I just don’t believe your story. I also don’t believe you couldn’t come up with this obvious alternative on your own, which only adds to your credibility deficit, to put it in the sort of midwit poseur terms you might prefer (you make sure to extend that pinky).

    I said several times I hope Kyle gets off and once that if I were on the jury he would definitely get off. So, I’m not anti Kyle. I’m anti an immature boy openly carrying a weapon into a war zone and expecting a good outcome. What he did was stupid in my opinion and the results bear this out.

    Yeah, when you weren’t condemning his behavior. Fuck you, shitbird. Yep, that’s profanity. It’s all you merit; you don’t deserve to be treated as if serious.

    As for the pro Trump person killed, he too flaunted is colors in front of the other gang and that was also not the smartest thing to do, which the events confirm.

    Again, fuck you. Socialists and communists and jevvs flaunted their socialism and communism and jevvishness and revolutionary intent in front of Hitler and his buddies, and those kike cunts and their buttgoy toadies got what they deserved, which the subsequent events confirm.

    You kike shill, you. (omigawd, the goy just used our own “might makes right ‘argument’ against us, oy vey!”)

    I ask you – if Kyle was your son and he told you he was going into town with a plainly visible AR to mingle with the leftist cretins, would you have applauded his intentions or tried to talk him out of it?

    I ask you, if the kike revolutionary bolsheviks in the Weimar Republic were your sons, would you applaud their behavior, or try to talk them out of the provocations that gave rise to the NSDAP?

    You’re making a really stupid argument here. It’s like asking how I’d vote on a jury if my son was on trial. The whole point of trials is to remove the decision from the hands of interested, and therefore biased, parties. Trying to inject that bias back into the political decision-making process at the abstract level in use here is dumb.

    I learned long ago, never wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it.
    George Bernard Shaw

    In my experience, arguing via famous quotes is the domain of niggers and other dimwits – generally speaking.

    This is my last reply to you as you’re too filthy to deal with.

    Good. Then I will abuse you at will, unopposed. Which is all you merit.

  292. Svigor says:
    @Sulu

    It’s depressing, the lengths the midwit goyim will go to avoid admitting this simple fact.

    Grug-brains are too grug to really absorb the midwit training, so they’re relatively easy to deprogram.

    Big-brains are too big-brained to give a good flying goddamn what anybody, kikes included, demand they believe; you need but point out to them any indoctrination they might have previously overlooked to create an adverse reaction to same.

    But midwits? Holy shit do they take to the (((indoctrination))) like ducks to water; just smart enough to absorb the programming, just dumb enough to want to.

    • Agree: Sulu
  293. @RoatanBill

    You are incorrect.
    Kyle was there just standing and watching. Although he had a weapon his intentions we can only guess. Because we can only guess his intention, his intention are irrelevant to the case.
    It was the democratic demonstrators that evaluated his intentions as unfriendly and also as obstruction to their activities.
    It was democratic demonstrators that did try to eliminate this obstruction.
    This fact does throw legitimate suspicion on democratic demonstrators presumed activity.
    …………………………………………
    Lets put it in the simple terms.
    If the demonstrators would simply did pass by and peacefully demonstrating. No interaction would have happened.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    , @Svigor
  294. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @Erostratus

    Personal innocence is a mere detail with no merit; if one looks like a class enemy, he is one, which is what must be remembered.

    That makes more sense out of an anecdote from Nikita Khrushchev’s biography.

    He was in public once, and was a minor Communist Party official, when a woman he didn’t know said “I don’t know that man, but he looks like a capitalist!” and the crowd started to turn hostile. That was a deadly accusation in those days, and not joining in the condemnation could get a person condemned himself.

    Nikita Khrushchev quickly and loudly replied “I don’t know that woman, but she looks like a streetwalker!”, got some laughs, and the situation was over.

    Any serious reply would have probably gotten Nikita Khrushchev arrested and quite probably convicted, as will any serious reply to similar “class enemy” accusations now.

    So, remember that and maybe save your life!

  295. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @MrVoid

    Else, guy. Else.

  296. @Peter Frost

    Excellent post.
    Modern notions of fairness are precisely that – modern. They cannot be imposed retrospectively onto people in the past who had different notions of what was fair and acceptable.
    I’m glad to see you’re still active during this time of Coronamadness and Floydmania, Mr Frost.

  297. vot tak says:
    @Anonymous

    “This is quite a relief. Trump does seem to understand what he’s seeing.”

    That zionazi-gay psywar was being pushed by the buggered scum of israel’s “american” conservative talk radio quislings today.

  298. Menes says: • Website
    @Astuteobservor II

    If this escalates nation wide, race war here we come.

    How is that a race war? Antifa is overwhelmingly young whites, who seem to be better educated than the MAGA types, who have more money, more guns, more cars. In Kenosha the right wing killer and all his leftist victims are white. The revenge killing in Portland of a white rightist was by white leftists. Portland is the whitest big city in America. Most of the antifa riots, looting and killing is taking place in white majority cities.

    If, God forbid, there is Civil War II, it will be like the first Civil War: mostly whites vs whites. And the result will be the same.

    • Troll: GeneralRipper
    • Replies: @Poco
  299. Menes says: • Website
    @Peter Frost

    Was it “unfair” for modern humans to steal Europe from the Neanderthals? Well, the question is absurd.

    What’s really absurd is your comparison. Neanderthals went extinct 40,000 years ago, native americans are still around. African humans and European neanderthals co-existed and interbred for millenia.

    What happened to native americans, and native australians, happened in the modern age, mostly in the 19th century. We have photographs.

  300. @Zarathustra

    In the absolute, I agree with you.

    However, in the real world it’s not that cut and dry. If you’re in a mall and suddenly see someone with a rifle slung over his shoulder, what immediate reaction would you have? That person has every right to peacefully carry such a weapon, but the social norms and human instinct would frown on that practice.

    Now consider the same situation where someone enters the mall with a concealed handgun. No one would know that person has a weapon and no alarm instinct would ensue. The difference is the in your face obviousness of the one weapon versus the other. It’s incitement in the one and not in the other.

    Kyle had every right to have that weapon. The now dead and injured predators had no right to accost him in any way. However, they reacted to the sight of the AR just like anyone else would react by looking at the weapon as a potential threat. That they attempted to do something about it was their mistake. That Kyle boldly displayed it was his in the context of common social norms and common sense. If he wanted to have a weapon for self protection, a concealed handgun would have been a better and smarter choice.

  301. @Mike Whitney

    She called Sandy police to report the threat

    LOL. Is there a youtube compilation of defund the police people yelling “call the cops” when they get rekt somewhere?

    • LOL: GeneralRipper
  302. @Menes

    Modern C21st notions of fairness cannot be applied retrospectively to peoples of the past – even the fairly recent past. The legal and moral case for colonization was accepted overwhelmingly in C19th Europe and North America. It is only after WWII that most states agreed to desist from new colonization and render it illegal. So the legal change is recent – within the last 75 years. Even so, many states ignore this – notably China in Tibet and Sinkiang.

    Even the Modern Period ( Let’s say, since 1650 ), has seen important changes in what is fair and acceptable. For example, in the early C18th slavery was accepted as a fact of life the world over. Indeed, Islam actively condoned the institution. Later in the century, it was declared unlawful in several European countries. Then it was abolished in new territories ( Catherine the Great, Crimea 1783 ) and colonies ( Royal Navy, St Helena 1795 ). The rest is well-known.

    If by “African Humans”, you mean Homo sapiens, then you are likely mistaken. Modern research tends to support an origin in Arabia and West Asia, not Africa. The supposition is they then spread to Europe, the rest of Asia and Africa.

  303. Peter Frost says: • Website
    @Menes

    What happened to native americans, and native australians, happened in the modern age, mostly in the 19th century. We have photographs.

    Your argument seems to be that a people becomes “indigenous” only when it has driven the original inhabitants to extinction and has destroyed all evidence of their former existence. No photographs, no crime. That is a strange “moral” argument to make.

    Actually, there are many cases in the world where a population has been demographically replaced but still exists here and there. The Khoisan peoples still exist in the Kalahari. We have photographs. Nonetheless, they are extinct over most of their former territory, and the current inhabitants see themselves as indigenous.

    Most of South-East Asia was once home to Negrito peoples. They still exist here and there in the interior of the Malayan Peninsula and parts of the Philippines. We have photographs. Nonetheless, they are extinct over most of their former territory, and the current inhabitants see themselves as indigenous.

    Arctic Canada was once home to the Tuniit people. They no longer exist, and we don’t have photos, but we have plenty of archaeological evidence. We’ve even retrieved their DNA from skeletal remains. And the current population, the Inuit, have detailed memories of them. There was apparently a time when the two groups coexisted and carried on a form of trade. Then, when the Inuit became sufficiently numerous, they drove them off. Yet the Inuit are considered indigenous to their land.

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  304. Poco says:
    @Menes

    Not better educated. More intensively indoctrinated.

    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
  305. @Peter Frost

    Most of South-East Asia was once home to Negrito peoples.
    Total stupid nonsense.
    Movement of tribes was always from east to west and from south to north.
    Never ever in opposite way.
    These two streams of people can be clearly identified by a shape of the scull.
    Stream from the south have an eggshape form of scull. Some of them the upper part (the brain part is considerable narrowing.) This stream of people are intellectually inferior people.
    The east west stream coming from Japan-China through India have a triangular form of scull and are of considerable higher intellect.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  306. @Zarathustra

    I try to rebut people in a polite manner. In your case, I’ve got to say you really are an ignoramus.
    I have known about the Andaman islanders and other negrito peoples for decades. Steve Sailer knows much more about them than my passing knowledge.They regularly feature in his articles

    For your enlightenment, here is the article:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negrito

    As the article notes:

    The pre-Neolithic Negrito populations of Southeast Asia were largely replaced by the expansion of Southern East Eurasian populations, beginning about 5,000 years ago.[3]

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  307. @Verymuchalive

    Your comment is totally irrelevant.
    I did look at the picture. These people have triangular form of scull.
    That mean their origin is eastern ergo Japanese- Chinese origin.
    Going back 5 thousand years is small fraction of the time.
    That they have black skin does not mean that their origin is Africa.
    That is ludicrous.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  308. @Poco

    Not better educated. More intensively indoctrinated.

    Better Ed-Jew-cated.

    😉

    • Agree: Poco
    • LOL: Trinity
  309. @Zarathustra

    You’ve not read the article and you can’t spell. The word is skull, not scull. I know of no hominid with a “triangular form of scull”. I suspect that you are either a troll or some crazy person who likes to comment on things he knows nothing about.

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  310. Svigor says:
    @Yukon Jack

    And in our twisted, perverted, jevv-infected “society,” if I call that nigger a nigger, suddenly his crime becomes unimportant, and I’m the bad guy.

    Couldn’t come up with a better one-sentence description of a society that needs to be destroyed…

  311. Svigor says:
    @Zarathustra

    The guy’s a phony. His argument: Kyle was dumb, put himself in a position to bla bla bla.

    And this from a guy who is so dumb he comes here, presents himself as right-wing, and talks shit on a right-wing hero, then acts like he has no idea why right-wingers would shit on him; he literally won’t take his own fucking advice and just shut his mouth and mind his own business and steer wide of any potential conflict.

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  312. Ash says:
    @No Friend Of The Devil

    Kate Brown is most definitely not Jerry Brown’s sister.

  313. @Verymuchalive

    Look at picture of Lincoln or Einstein. These are typical triangular shapes of skull.
    Than look at the picture of father of that rapist who got shut seven times, he is of the typical egg shape of the skull. (Front view.) (Biden to the certain extent has triangular shape of skull.)
    (Seeing is believing!)
    ……………………………………
    Maybe I did get a little bit overly irritated by name.
    But than what is in the name. Spanish did call them Negritos. But than to this day native population of America is called Indians.

  314. @Svigor

    This is beautiful.
    No more demonstrations. But even the term of demonstration is questionable. Pussyhats were demonstrations. Demonstration means “to show” usually discontent.
    So why these so called demonstrations happened at night. When people were sleeping. To whom these demonstrators were showing discontent? To buildings?
    These were no demonstrations! These were rioting looting and arson.
    Back to beautiful!
    It took one seventeen years old boy to put this nonsense to rest.
    One seventeen years old boy defeated combine forces of Democrats, BLM, and antifa.
    Imagine!

  315. @Alden

    “And that’s how we got an FBI that refuses to enforce RICO legislation against these revolutionaries.”

    The failure of the Justice Department and FBI to use RICO to investigate and indict the ringleaders and to confiscate their war chests shows that the Federal Government is as much an enabler of these Marxist uprisings as the Democrat local governments and state leaders who openly support them and tell Trump to mind his own business. This is a top down movement at all levels. If the Feds would only cut the head off of it, it would wither away. It’s evident the Feds don’t want to stop it. Why?

    • Replies: @Svigor
  316. Svigor says:
    @Niebelheim

    The feds don’t want to stop it because they’re all on the same side. The jevvish oligarch/donor class, the judenpresse, the deep state (“national security” apparatus, etc.), and antifa are all on the same side. Antifa are the (((regime’s))) extrajudicial shock troops; mercenaries who do certain jobs the gov’t can’t be seen doing, like suppressing White American voter turnout, suppressing White Americans’ right to free assembly, suppressing White Americans’ right to redress of grievances, suppressing White Americans’ right to free speech, etc. Basically the idea is that antifa/BLM rioters suck all the oxygen out of the room so the regime’s enemies can’t assemble, as they did in Charlottesville (the regime didn’t like the sight of 5k right-wingers gathering in C-Ville at all; that’s when the pre-emptive antifa counter-campaign started).

    Antifa are only anarchist in the sense that the same sort of useful idiots were anarchist during the Russian Revolution (after the revolution was won, the Bolsheviks liquidated the useful idiot anarchists). In the current case, they’re not revolutionaries, but counter-revolutionaries. They’re no threat at all to the jevvish regime. How could they be? They profess the exact same beliefs as professed in corporate boardrooms all across America.

    The first fissures between the (((regime))) and its extrajudicial mercenary force (antifa) are only appearing now, because the regime doesn’t like the polling data it’s seeing (antifa may win orange faggot a second term of uselessness).

  317. Svigor says:

    The FBI takes its marching orders from the ADL now. ADL has become functionally equivalent to a sort of administrative NKVD, in the form of an (openly zionist/jevvish supremacist) “NGO”; the will of jevvry taken institutional form.

    • Agree: MrVoid, Richard B
  318. Anon[367] • Disclaimer says:

    anonanoanHere’s the latest craziness having to do with the fanatical Trump hating morons. A twelve year old kid, a boy, got punched out by a much older leftist democrat because she did not like the Trump sign the boy was driving into the ground.. These democrats are too sick.

  319. Richard B says:
    @North Cascadian

    It is still possible that this is a false flag

    Who knows?

    Cautious judgment is always the wise choice, though not always possibe.

    In these times, though, cautious judgment is essential.

    Regarding this shooting, I do have to say that the shooter in the photos looks in his 50’s, a bit crazed, and probably very fond of drink and drugs.

    But in The Vice interview he looks like he’s in his 30’s, 40 tops, and seems in good physical condition, and centered, but in an erry, psycho kind of way.

    He just looks and sounds like he’s lying.

    But, again, who knows?

    Either way, let’s face it, Antifa, BLM, The DNC, The ADL, The SPLC, etc. and their friends in Government, Woke Captial, and, of course, what used to be known as Higher Education (now best referred to as Non-Stop Indoctrination), are all members of the same Dark Triad.

    They all have the same Machiavellian lust for power, narcissism, and psychopathology.

    The Right might be stupid, and they’re certainly that. But the Left are evil.

    High time we ditch both once and for all.

  320. Anonymous[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Yes, get involved. But even if you never carry or even own a gun, be sure to buy and register one and get gun owners defense insurance before you get involved. And if you don’t know a top top criminal defense attorney, do some research.

    Then go see him her and give him her a small retainer for any future problems. And be sure to keep at least 100K liquid for legal fees. And set up a charitable foundation managed by a professional fund raiser to help with the remainder of the legal fees.

    Remember Marlin Brando’s son Christopher Who Killed a sister’s friend? Brando’s net worth went from multi millions to ordinary middle class after that trial was over.

  321. Anonymous[401] • Disclaimer says:

    Remember when Mad Maxipad Waters urged her acolytes to confront “diverse ideas” whenever and wherever they encountered them?

    https://tinyurl.com/y6arcxoy

    Of course, she didn’t like being similarly “confronted” herself:

    https://tinyurl.com/y4ph4r3x

  322. Anonymous[401] • Disclaimer says:

    GreatSocialist: >”some fat high school dropout sprays unarmed protesters in a panic with his AR, it is a heroic act”

    Indeed. However, you omit that (1) Kyle is far less fat than waddling Hilligula; (2) he panicked due to antifa thugs trying to kill him; and (3) he “sprayed” nothing. Every shot hit its mark.

    I understand your omissions. Being a socialist, you’re allergic to facts. Like Kyle acting like an EMT; putting out literal dumpster fires; and protecting property from your fellow droogs.

    Now, the sequence you also omitted. Kyle’s extinguishing a fire caused thugs to want to extinguish him. Your cowardly, lynch-mob buddies tried their usual stunts. They (1) tripped him; (2) hit him with a skateboard; (3) kicked him in the head a la Marquise Love; and (4) then ran at him with a loaded handgun.

    What you’re REALLY pissed at is that Kyle held his ground and…in quick order…fired 3 shots, each hitting a target.

    >”micropenis President”

    I guess you’d know Don’s size ‘cuz you regularly enjoy Fido’s ravaging your own fundament.

    > “incites and encourages further violence”

    That would be Maxine Waters, her “summer-of-love” sistah, and MSM.

    >”some snowflake white supremacists”

    Are you a toxic rain black inferiorcist?

    >”get their panties in a twist and whine”

    Ah, like most cowards, you project your own effeminate nature onto others. What next: saying the President is retarded?

    >”glorify the trumptard’s shooter as another John Wick also?”

    No. Wick only attacks those who attack him first. As did Kyle. You and Team Aholes want to kill anyone who disagree with you. Yet you call others “weak”!

    >”These white supremacist snowflakes can dish it out, but they can’t take it.”

    PROJECTING!

    You must have missed these:

    https://tinyurl.com/y5b7cxa3

    https://tinyurl.com/yxwowfub

    >”In the eyes of the rest of the world, fat Kyle Rittenmouse the high school dropout and girl-beater”

    Perhaps that’s true on your planet. However, on Earth all the thugs he bulleted had criminal records:

    > “If micropenis Trump gets 4 more years, I expect to see even more riots and even more shootings.”

    YES! American streets may well fill with dirt-napping antifa fanboys like

    “Skateboard No More” Tony Hubris Huber;
    “Bye-bye Bicep” Grosskreutzm; and
    “Jojo B. No Mo’ ” Rosenbaum

    Given your taking knees to fellate Tony, Joe, and 12-Gaige…plus your wishing Don’s johnson better fit you ever-yapping bouche…I suspect you would have fit right in with Goebbels, Inc. I can hear you now, 1933-45, praising Adolf for being a vegetarian teetotaler who loved children and dogs, omitting that both of the latter had to have pure-Aryan bonafides.

    Keep up the good work, though GS. You’re certainly earning the Poptarts your momster Ilsa tosses into the basement for you: https://www.ebay.com/itm/292421941857

  323. @Trinity

    Ok, you’ve won me over. I am now ready to go down with the ship. The cluster graphs were right. I am in the red circle and there is no escape.

  324. vot tak says:

    “Hey! Hey, we got one right here! We got a Trumper right here!”

    That line is part of the neocon psywar talking points distributed to their prostitutes (waves at whitney) right after the shooting took place. It is not what was said by those involved and is one of their typical inventions to get their baboons agitated.

    What was said is not determined exactly, nor is who did the talking. Witnesses, who recorded the videos say something else was said and one of the two claims it was Danielson/Pappas mainly doing the talking that was recorded. But you know, neocon whitney has a neocon job to do.

    The framing of this shooting is very suspicious, especially the personal involvement from trump and the likudite extremist right (waves at whitney, again). It’s like they were sitting there waiting with prepared material to disseminate once it went down.

    Neither the shooter or shootee are what the media portray them as. Danielson is portrayed as this all around nice guy defending american values, while Reinoehl is a dedicated leftist defending against fascism and white supremacy. Very doubtful either is this.

    A brief encounter, then gunshots. Now narratives fly after fatal Portland shooting.

    https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/a-brief-encounter-then-gunshots-now-narratives-fly-after-fatal-portland-shooting/

    See also:

    Michael Reinoehl, Aaron Danielson both armed at Portland protest, court documents reveal

    https://www.twincities.com/2020/09/04/portland-killing-suspect-and-victim-had-guns-documents-say/

    And:

    https://www.mankatofreepress.com/region/blm-rallies-memorial-for-man-killed-in-portland-shooting/article_39f66fe5-291a-5dc2-b22d-e0008b5fc535.html

    Both men were armed with handguns, though earlier press reports I saw stated Danielson was not. No doubt this omission was not accidental.

    Some other questions. Why are the patriot prayer baboons using paintball guns? They are not lethal, but they are still a gun and most of those those seeing these will naturally assume these are regular guns. Those hit by them are likely to remember it and not be positively disposed towards the shooter. Reinoehl had posted a photo of the bruise he got from a paintball strike (this may be a motivating factor in him gunning down Danielson).

    Likewise why did the local authorities allow paintball gun use? If I was going to start shooting people I didn’t like with one of these, at the bare minimum I would be arrested for assault and battery, likely some overzealous cop would mistake the paintball gun as a regular firearm and dispatch me pronto. I read some speculation that the paintball guns were used to tag people. To mark them for later ID.

    Then there is the Reinoehl vice interview. Vice is cia/mossad for youngsters the same way rfe and related diarrhea is for their parents. Why or how did Reinoehl connect with this zionazi-nazi disinfo outfit.

    Another question, why did Reinoehl only shoot Danielson and not also Pappas? He knew they were together. So far no serious motivation for the murder has been presented. Unless Reinoehl was a secret assassin/hitman, this shooting seems to be well outside his petty criminal previous existence. Obviously there is a lot about this crime that we are not being informed about.

    • Replies: @vot tak
  325. vot tak says:
    @vot tak

    More questions and speculation.

    Reinoehl appears to be a rather unstable individual (the racing stint with his kids). Not much on him personally on the web. He claims military service, the u.s. military says they have no record of it. Snowboarding instructor and some contractor work (in construction, I presume). Prior to the portland protests, he doesn’t appear to have any recorded political history. The black power neck tattoo is testimony to anti racism personal beliefs, though. Beyond this, his family estrangement, his possible connection to government spooks (the vice interview definitely raises that possibility), I don’t have enough info to go on.

    Danielson is another oddity. So are patriot prayer. His name is Jewish, yet he is associated wth a far right supposedly Christian outfit. Is Danielson Jewish, a check on the web yeilded zero info on his religion. Nothing about his funeral or funeral plans.

    Another thing being held back about him is he is obviously gay. Along with Pappas. Look at gibson, as well:

    https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.splcenter.org/sites/default/files/dsc_0462.jpg&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwikoI3k8NfrAhVCYjUKHW0qACwQ5hMIBTAA&usg=AOvVaw1spgTlbCAb_v4SjVIDKXrq

    He’s the one on the left. He, and the other 3 are unmistakenly gay. This patriot prayer group look very much a mainly gay branch of the far right, likudite republican psywar machine. Homosexuality and neoconnery literally go hand in hand.

    Danielson, and patriotic prayer, are not white supremacists, that is obvious.

  326. Zanna says:
    @mark green

    CRIMINALS who FUEL the riots and want to obtain a MILITARY POLICE STATE = FOREIGN TERRORISTS, NOT Americans terrorists.

    These foreigners, these Agent Provocateurs ACT AGAINST the UNITED STATES’ CONSTITUTION.

    SIBEL EDMONDS:

    Designed Riots, Trump, The Insurrection Act & When Enough Is Enough

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