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“Last Wednesday, at a Deputies Committee meeting at the White House, officials from the State Department, the CIA and the Joint Chiefs of Staff discussed limited military strikes against the (Assad) regime … One proposed way to get around the White House’s long-standing objection to striking the Assad regime without a U.N. Security Council resolution would be to carry out the strikes covertly and without public acknowledgment.”

– Washington Post

Call it stealth warfare, call it poking the bear, call it whatever you’d like. The fact is, the Syrian war has entered a new and more dangerous phase increasing the chances of a catastrophic confrontation between the US and Russia.

This new chapter of the conflict is the brainchild of Pentagon warlord, Ash Carter, whose attack on a Syrian outpost at Deir Ezzor killed 62 Syrian regulars putting a swift end to the fragile ceasefire agreement. Carter and his generals opposed the Kerry-Lavrov ceasefire deal because it would have required “military and intelligence cooperation with the Russians”. In other words, the US would have had to get the greenlight from Moscow for its bombing targets which would have undermined its ability to assist its jihadist fighters on the ground. That was a real deal-breaker for the Pentagon. But bombing Deir Ezzor fixed all that. It got the Pentagon out of the jam it was in, it torpedoed the ceasefire, and it allowed Carter to launch his own private shooting match without presidential authorization. Mission accomplished.

So what sort of escalation does Carter have in mind, after all, most analysts assume that a direct confrontation between the United States and Russia will lead to a nuclear war. Is he really willing to take that risk?

Heck no, but not everyone agrees that more violence will lead to a nuclear exchange. Carter, for example, seems to think that he can raise the stakes considerably without any real danger, which is why he intends to conduct a low-intensity, stealth war on mainly Syrian assets that will force Putin to increase Russia’s military commitment. The larger Russia’s military commitment, the greater probability of a quagmire, which is the primary objective of Plan C, aka–Plan Carter. Take a look at this clip from an article in Tuesday’s Washington Post which helps to explain what’s going on:

“U.S. military strikes against the Assad regime will be back on the table Wednesday at the White House, when top national security officials in the Obama administration are set to discuss options for the way forward in Syria…

Inside the national security agencies, meetings have been going on for weeks to consider new options to recommend to the president to address the ongoing crisis in Aleppo,…A meeting of the National Security Council, which could include the president, could come as early as this weekend.

Last Wednesday, at a Deputies Committee meeting at the White House, officials from the State Department, the CIA and the Joint Chiefs of Staff discussed limited military strikes against the regime…

The options under consideration… include bombing Syrian air force runways using cruise missiles and other long-range weapons fired from coalition planes and ships… One proposed way to get around the White House’s long-standing objection to striking the Assad regime without a U.N. Security Council resolution would be to carry out the strikes covertly and without public acknowledgment, the official said.” (Obama administration considering strikes on Assad, again, Washington Post)

Don’t you think the Washington Post should have mentioned that Carter’s sordid-little enterprise is already underway?

Consider the bombing of Deir Ezzor, for example. Doesn’t that meet the Post’s standard of “U.S. military strikes against the Assad regime”?

Sure, it does.

And what about the two Syrian bridges US warplanes took out over the Euphrates last week? (making it more difficult to attack ISIS strongholds in the eastern quadrant of the country) Don’t they count?

Of course, they do.

And let’s not forget the fact that Carter’s jihadist buddies on the ground launched a mortar attack on the Russian embassy in Damascus on Tuesday. That’s another part of this low-intensity war that’s already underway. So all this rubbish about Obama mulling over these “new options” for “military strikes” is complete hogwash. Plan Carter is already in full swing, the train already left the station. The only thing missing is presidential authorization which probably isn’t necessary since Il Duce Carter decided that it was his turn to run the country.

Now check out this clip from a Memo to the President from a group of ex-U.S. intelligence agents who compelled to warn Obama about (among other things) “asserting White House civilian control over the Pentagon.” Here’s an excerpt:

“In public remarks bordering on the insubordinate, senior Pentagon officials showed unusually open skepticism regarding key aspects of the Kerry-Lavrov deal. We can assume that what Lavrov told his boss in private is close to his uncharacteristically blunt words on Russian NTV on Sept. 26:

“My good friend John Kerry … is under fierce criticism from the US military machine. Despite the fact that, as always, [they] made assurances that the US Commander in Chief, President Barack Obama, supported him in his contacts with Russia… apparently the military does not really listen to the Commander in Chief.”

Lavrov’s words are not mere rhetoric … Policy differences between the White House and the Pentagon are rarely as openly expressed as they are now over policy on Syria.”
(Obama Warned to Defuse Tensions with Russia, Consortium News)

How shocking is that? When was the last time you read a memo from retired Intel agents warning the president that the Pentagon was usurping his Constitutional authority? That sounds pretty serious, don’t you think?

Bottom line: The Pentagon is basically prosecuting their own little war in Syria and then chatting up the policy with Obama when they damn-well feel like it. Here’s more from the Washington Post:

“The CIA and the Joint Chiefs of Staff … expressed support for such “kinetic” options, the official said … That marked an increase of support for striking Assad compared with the last time such options were considered.” (Washington Post)

Of course they want to bomb Assad. They’re losing! Everyone wants to bomb someone when they’re losing. It’s human nature. But that doesn’t mean it’s a good idea. It’s a very bad idea. Just like supporting Sunni extremists is a bad idea. Just like giving shoulder-launched surface-to-air missiles (MANPADS) to fanatical crackpots is a bad idea. How crazy is that? And how long before one of these religious nutcases use their new toys to take down an Israeli or American jetliner?

Not very long, I’d wager. The idea of doubling-down on homicidal maniacs (By providing them with more lethal weapons) is really one of the dumbest ideas of all time, and yet, the Pentagon and CIA seem to think that it’s tip-top military strategy. Here’s one last blurb from the WA Post article:

“Kerry’s deputy, Antony Blinken, testified last week that the U.S. leverage in Russia comes from the notion that Russia will eventually become weary of the cost of its military intervention in Syria. “The leverage is the consequences for Russia of being stuck in a quagmire that is going to have a number of profoundly negative effects,” Blinken told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.” (Washington Post)

See? There it is in black and white. “Quagmire”. The new “Plan C” strategy is designed to create a quagmire for Putin by gradually ratcheting up the violence forcing him to prolong his stay and deepen his commitment. It’s a clever trap and it could work, too. The only hitch is that Putin and his allies appear to be making steady headway on the battlefield. That’s going to make a lot harder for Syria’s enemies to continue the provocations and incitements without triggering massive retaliation.

But maybe Carter hasn’t thought about that yet.

NOTE: Russia issues warning to Pentagon; Hostile aircraft that threatens Syrian troops will be shot down

This is from a Thursday report on Sputnik International:

“The Russian Minister of Defense said “that “Russian S-300, S-400 air defense systems deployed in Syria’s Hmeymim and Tartus have combat ranges that may surprise any unidentified airborne targets. Operators of Russian air defense systems won’t have time to identify the origin of airstrikes, and the response will be immediate. Any illusions about “invisible” jets will inevitably be crushed by disappointing reality.”

No More Deir ez-Zors

“I point out to all the ‘hotheads’ that following the September 17 coalition airstrike on the Syrian Army in Deir ez-Zor we took all necessary measures to exclude any similar ‘accidents’ happening to Russian forces in Syria,” Konashenkov said. (Sputnik)

MIKE WHITNEY lives in Washington state. He is a contributor to Hopeless: Barack Obama and the Politics of Illusion (AK Press). Hopeless is also available in a Kindle edition. He can be reached at [email protected].

(Republished from Counterpunch by permission of author or representative)
• Category: Foreign Policy • Tags: American Military, Russia, Syria 
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  1. bob sykes says:

    The Joint Chiefs have escaped civilian control and now have the independence of action and freedom from restraint of a Latin American junta.

    • Agree: Realist
  2. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    This rather elucidatory article reminded me of what Riesmann noted in his The Lonely Crowd, a book published in 1950.

    That is was no longer the president of U.S.A. who governed in the U.S.A. We are now 66 years past that book’s time.
    All what the U.S.A. has been doing with regards to Syria, Libya, even Afghanistan, has no relation with Obama’s will.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  3. Patriot says:

    Great article. Thanks, Mike.

    • Agree: Che Guava
  4. Kiza says:

    I have noticed Hasbara’s frustration with Obama. Tel Aviv is not happy and their minister of offence Ashton Carter jumps to attention (I wish I could imagine this crappy little Israeli servant as Il Duce). Carter is just bridging this gap till Hillary’s election rights-the-Obama-wrongs.

    All Hasbara and Western MSM controlled by the same masters from Tel Aviv are up in arms to get Hillary elected, to bring the plan for Greater Israel back on schedule.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  5. Diogenes says:

    The US is not unitary state it consists of competing compartments,it is poorly managed and has no integrity. You can’t blame it all on Obama; it is structurally defective. The military is too big ,full of meat heads,cowards ,simpletons and is dragging down the country economically. Americans and their cretinous military have their heads filled with false jingoist delusions of grandeur, righteous hubris, false bravado and are long overdue for a good shit kicking. They are cruising for fight and they going to get one. Their Jihadi proxy mercenaries in Syria and Iraq need to be annihilated to the last man and their Saudi and Qatari paymasters deserve to be bombed into the stone age for wars they have prosecuted,that’s a job for Iran. All Jews should leave Israel,give it back to the people it rightly belongs to and move to the US where they are much loved and cared for. If all this can’t be achieved then a world war will put things right.

  6. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website

    The larger Russia’s military commitment, the greater probability of a quagmire

    Actually, it is exactly the other way around.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  7. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    A vote for Hillary means continuation of the Peace Prize winner’s plan to destroy Russia at the risk of all out nuclear war and mutual annihilation, whereas a vote for Trump offers the likelihood of a deal with Putin. But as Hillary has pointed out, Trump has called some women pigs, slobs and disgusting animals, so the nuclear option is clearly the only sane and decent choice.

  8. Why does Obama let this occur? He is Commander in Chief. If he is truly that weak, he is unfit for office. I suspect these attempts to characterize Obama and Kerry as the “good guys” is a load of crap.

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
  9. Karl says:

    > really one of the dumbest ideas of all time

    you wouldn’t _have_ this problem, if you actually had a Zionist Occupied Government

  10. The idea of doubling-down on homicidal maniacs (By providing them with more lethal weapons) is really one of the dumbest ideas of all time, and yet, the Pentagon and CIA seem to think that it’s tip-top military strategy.

    One wonders who are the greater of of the homicidal maniacs. Ash Carter is looking good for the title about now. He oughtta be fired, but Obama is so weak, so concerned with his golf, so disinterested, these guys are going to have a free hand from here on out.

    Still and all, when Putin starts shooting down American planes, what complaint will anyone have? It isn’t like anyone authorized a new war or voted funding for any of this. Our Generals in the Pentagon, our intel guys, our administration officials are the biggest losers since Custer & Co.

    Figure after all, in 15 years they’ve been at the War On Terror (ha!), all it turned out to be was a revolving door for Generals/consultants/lobbyists/cabinet officials to spread the dough around to the insiders at the expense of millions of lives the world over. But as serious military men burning serious piles of money and lives on a supposedly serious mission, the only serious things I see are the lives and money. Pinned down, how would they seriously explain all this?

    The Generals and Ash Carter are losers. They can’t win. Never thought I’d root against the policies of my own country, not that Ash Carter represents the country. These guys are psychos, they have no mandate but their own, it’s unbelievable. Chess pieces to them and Syria no serious interest of ours. And so Obama sits, watches, plays out the string, cooperative via his disinterest

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  11. @Diogenes

    You can’t blame it all on Obama; it is structurally defective.

    Yes, it is, and it appears to have been designed that way. However, while it’s structurally defective from the point of view of those with morals and those who have to pay for it all, it works just fine for the fetid ghouls raking in the cash.

    If Obomba had a pair, he’d fire the jerks…

    • Replies: @WorkingClass
  12. Che Guava says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Since there are two intensifying adjectives in the quote,

    exactly the other way around.

    in your comment is very cryptic.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  13. @Diogenes

    Aren’t you forgetting the consensus wisdom of UR commemters? There is you must know a Deep State where all is decided in unison with no competing egos or clashes of jurisdiction.

    • Replies: @Diogenes
  14. Rehmat says:

    How reliable an Israeli propagandist (Washington Post), and an Israeli poodle (Ash Carter) could be?

    Only in March 2016, kosher Gentile Ashton Carter told Senate Armed Service Committee
    that Russia, China, North Korea, and Iran pose ‘existential threat’ to United States. I wonder why Carter forgot to mention Syria that time.

    • Replies: @Sherman
  15. macilrae says:

    Please don’t blame Obama for all of this – I’m sure he was long ago told to “keep hands in pockets and to watch the blinking lights”. Faced with a former community organizer with a negligible track record in anything it’s the only safe course of action as the Pentagon sees it. Poor fellow should concentrate on his golf.

    Ask yourself how often you’ve seen a good talker get into a position that is way beyond his/her capability or understanding? Dammit, I have hired people like that!

    Carter is pretty scary and if Trump should beat the odds and become president I believe there is a real possibility of a coup d’etat.

  16. annamaria says:

    The Lobby is working in high gear. Look at this war criminal, Carl Gershman, another bloody warmonger of “special victimhood:”
    The UK servile kind rushes to the rescue: (The OpenDemocracy became an AutopsiedDemocracy).
    They will not stop until PNAC/Yinon Plan are not implemented in full force. Or else.
    Someone wrote that this madness will continue till the deciders start loosing their progeny, their own children and grandchildren, to the deciders-initiated wars.
    They are perfumed princes and princesses indeed – totally removed from reality.

  17. The thing with this “covert operation” is that now al-Qaeda might start targeting US flying objects as well with US provided MANPADs. There’s no way coordination works that well in real time, especially if Russia takes out a couple more of those al-Qaeda/ISIS communication posts crowded with US, Saudi, Israeli etc. officers.

    Also it would be a miracle if this doesn’t cause some sort of unintended consequences (conflict). In essence this is the “covert war”, just look at the new USAAF paint scheme:

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
  18. Sherman says:

    Hey Homer

    Maybe you haven’t heard but Syria imploded. All these wonderful Muslims in Syria are too busy killing each other off to pose an “existential threat” to the US.

    The only threat from Syria to the US is Syrian Muslim refugees moving here.


    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Rehmat
  19. @jacques sheete

    If Obama had a pair he would come out on the steps and tell the people the whole fucking truth about everything. Everything. Same can be said about Bubba and Dubya. We are accustomed to presidents who are murderers and traitors. And people object to Trump because he is vulgar?

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  20. nsa says:

    You should be glad israel exists….otherwise, we would have 8 million more traitorous jooie termites over here eating away at what remains of western civilization.

    • Replies: @DaveE
  21. @Mis(ter)Anthrope

    Why does Obama let this occur?

    There’s plenty of room up there next to Jack and Bob Kennedy, the last two to say no to a bullshit war. Don’t think that isn’t made abundantly clear to every President on Inauguration Day.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  22. @anon_the_nth

    Those are enemy forces paint schemes for dog fighting exercises, those don’t go overseas. No one would mistake the planes.

    • LOL: Kiza
    • Replies: @annamaria
  23. Pax says:

    Iacta alea est.
    Syria warring will destroy another country.
    Clinton fingerprints are to be found on the destruction.
    Libya was destroyed by Clinton and England and France.
    What will be left of the east Mediterranean in Clinton years?
    Turkey may be next to have war.
    Who benefits, who lies?
    Trust no one.

  24. DaveE says:

    Yep. The enemy painted a big target on its back in 1917 / 1948.

  25. annamaria says:
    @Jim Christian

    You mean, Al Qaeda/ISIS jihadis know their true masters and would not harm the ziocons’ feeding hand?

  26. turtle says:

    So, the OKW is insubordinate?
    Mirabile dictu.

  27. carter is the type that would never admit he is wrong till he gets a bullet between his eyes. but it will all be too late since he is already dead. in the current situation, the bullet is when an american jet gets shot down by one of the s300/400.

  28. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    The Iraq War was for Israel, as retired Marine General Zinni pointed out, and then got savaged in the Zionist MSM for speaking the truth.

    Gadaffi was NO threat to the USA, but was hated by Israel, so he had to go.

    Following that line of reasoning, is the Syrian War being waged to placate Israel, so the Zionists can continue with their theft of Syria land on the way to their fantasy of ‘Eretz Israel?’

    And for asking that obvious question, I’ll be slammed as anti-Semitic.

    • Replies: @Anonymous Smith
  29. Diogenes says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Is there some reason why actors in the Deep State can’t disagree on policy? The DS is not immune to internal power struggles so your sarcasm does not undermine the theory of the DP.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  30. utu says:

    In what circumstances was Chuck Hagel replaced with Ash Carter? Was it related to strategy with respect to Syria?

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  31. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website
    @Che Guava

    in your comment is very cryptic.

    Nothing cryptic at all. This whole meme of “second Afghanistan” is very popular in Western media, obviously for a reasons of not learning the real history of that war. Russia’s fast reaction forces do have full capability to deploy to Syria, if push comes to shove, do their job in somewhere between 1 to 2 months and leave mopping operations for SAA. Syria is not Afghanistan, not even close and, as I proposed not for once, Russia’s more substantial involvement with such force in Syria was limited merely by the diplomatic, not operational necessities. By now, however, it seems that Russian involvement is sufficient for inevitable fall of Aleppo and with it–a final decision of the war. Hence such a hysteria in US media. Any war, meanwhile, is a quagmire by definition.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  32. annamaria says:

    [It’s important to choose one handle and stick with it, or use Anonymous/Anon. You’re probably not attempting to conceal your identity by switching between “Annamarina” and “Anna”, but henceforth please stick with the former since you’ve used it much more frequently. All your “Anna” comments will then be merged to “Annamarina.”]

    “…Syria imploded. ” – True.
    If there is indeed a civil war going between the government of the sovereign state of Syria and the US/EU-created ISIS, then the US-provided material and arm aid to the jihadis is a violation of the US Constitution. (Actually, the state of Syria has been suffering a US/EU-sponsored invasion of jihadis belonging to ISIS/Al Qaeda; the jihadis are also supported by such paragons of various human-rights-values as Saudi and Qatar kingdoms.)
    Moreover, the US operatives from the CIA and Pentagon are in Syria in violation of international law. (These two group seem are at war with each other, btw:
    By providing the lethal ammunition to ISIS/Al Nusra (Al Qaeda) jihadi in Syria, the US has been participating in war crimes.
    By providing various support to ISIS in Syria, Israel has been dirtying the memory of victims of the 1941-1945 war of aggression. The word “Holocaust” has become inseparable from the word “ziocons” and from the horrors of the ruined Iraq, Libya, and Syria.
    But you cannot find this wording on the presstituting MSM:

  33. since obama has jumped on the “russia as a monster” bandwagon, perhaps he ok’d the military strike at deir ez zor. then leaked: the renegade ass carter done it on his own.
    that would explain why carter hasn’t been fired.
    yes, i know, obama is ambiguous re: the syrian affair. i also know he doesn’t have the balls to end america’s participation in what has already become another blot on his most precious legacy.
    look at his record: afghanistan, iraq, libya, syria, somalia, yemen, are disasters. a free ride for bush war criminals because obama is a war criminal. no justice for criminal banksters. obamacare which further entrenched & enriched the system that extorts americans at their most vulnerable. the amped up police state; neoliberal colonialism; murder of americans for free speech and nothing at all; a dictator presidency with the power of judge, jury, and executioner.
    so, because of classification, 50 years from now americans may learn of obama’s orders to bomb syrian troops out of a cease fire.
    anything is possible from this duplicitous asshat.
    he’ll hand his messes off to the next one.
    and it so it goes.

    • Replies: @DaveE
  34. annamaria says:

    The idiots in charge are devoid of any dignity; most likely they do not even know the word “dignity.”
    Here is a winding article about very bad Russians: ‘Russia’s Senior-Most officials’ Ordered DNC Hack:”
    After thousands of stenographed words (directly from the WH), the authors acknowledge something that makes the White House’ accusations ridiculous: “Notably, the statement didn’t blame the Russian government for targeting state elections systems, but it did say the activity had been traced to servers owned by a “Russian company.
    But the Obama administration did squarely blame the DNC hacks on the Kremlin…”
    The White House looks and sounds not just ridiculous – the Obama administration looks (and perhaps is) stupid!

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  35. @utu

    hagel wanted to live and let live, but the power that be wants everyone under our boots. so we got carter.

    ex: hagel wanted to work with china, carter wants to contain and sabotage china as much as possible till it becomes another japan or just collapse altogether. our reach towards burma and india, are all aimed towards that goal. just look at the one road one belt countries, you can see all the usa handiwork.

    derbyshire hates china because china view the west as enemies, people like him as spies(1980s) he doesn’t even realize how many spies we sent into china with people like him 🙂 since carter, we, the usa, just proved our selves to be 100% enemies.

    the reason for replacement is the power behind the scenes wants the above. for every country that doesn’t want to be japan or the EU. that is how I understand it.

  36. @Greg Bacon

    Gadaffi was NO threat to the USA, but was hated by Israel, so he had to go.

    I’m not niggling here, Greg, but, the real reason Muammar Gaddafi was assassinated was because Libya didn’t have a central banking system controlled by the Rothschild banking clan.

    In the year of 2000 there were seven countries that didn’t have a Rothschild controlled central bank:

    North Korea

    We all know what happend with Iraq and Afghanistan. In 2003 there were five countries that didn’t have Rothschild controlled central bank:

    North Korea

    Sudan has been ripped in half, and it’s unclear who actually controls the banking system in either country. When Libya was attacked from within, and Gaddafi was assassinated, the very first thing the “Rebel” leadership did was to sign a 200+ page contract with “international banking interests” to establish a new central bank in that country. These kinds of international contracts are long and very complicated…yet the “Rebels” produced it within hours of Colonel Gaddafi’s death.

    As of 2011, the only countries without a Rothschild controlled central bank are:

    North Korea

    If you will recall, the Cuban’s caught US NGO’s redhanded in the act of trying to foment civil unrest (Arab-spring style) in Cuba. The Cuban government began shouting to the world what the US was up to, and how it was being done. The US government moved in swiftly to calm the Cuban’s down…by “normalizing” relations with the small communist country, they [US] essentially bribed them [Cuba] with the promise of billions of dollars of trade, annually. The Cuban government quietly dropped their protest.

    It’ll be interesting to see what happens with Iran, and, especially, North Korea…time will tell.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @frankie p
  37. DaveE says:
    @Lawrence Fitton

    Ambiguous on the Syrian affair? You gotta be kidding.

    Obama made it perfectly clear he’s a zionist agent when he screamed about “Assad’s chemical weapons” and “gassing his own people” etc. etc in 2013. Pure lies, of course. He hasn’t quit since, although he’s toned it down a bit to avoid exposing himself too egregiously.

    We ain’t seen or heard the last of agent Obama, Messiah In Waiting.

  38. @Diogenes

    My sarcasm, as you call it, was not of course directed at you. But as you have now, somewhat to my surprise, espoused the validity of “the theory of the Deep State” perhaps you would be good enough to give me your understanding of it. Contrast and compare with Establishment(s), elites to make it clear if it is more than the donor class in the American plutocracy.

    • Replies: @Diogenes
  39. @Anonymous Smith

    I suspect everything you say about central banks and Rothschild control is total rubbish because you are spouting BS on what I happen to know about. For example do you know who was appointed in mid 2003 to set up Iraq’s new currency (and who recommended him for appointment). I do because he is a friend of mine. Do you know his ethnicity or his attitude to Israel? I do and it makes your claims evident hogwash.

  40. Tom Welsh says:

    ‘“Kerry’s deputy, Antony Blinken, testified last week that the U.S. leverage in Russia comes from the notion that Russia will eventually become weary of the cost of its military intervention in Syria’.

    But what did Messrs Winken and Nod have to say? I think we should be told.

    What these gentlemen seem to have overlooked is that, to the Russian people, matters like these are not of trivial passing importance – to be forgotten as soon as the ball game, or their favourite chat show, comes on. The Russians are serious people, and understand very well that not only their national pride and honour are at stake in Syria, but very possibly their national safety – even survival.

  41. annamaria says:

    [Use “annamarina”]
    Who is Ashton Carter?
    “Carter was a supporter of the 2003 invasion of Iraq, as well as an advocate of preventive wars against North Korea and Iran.[46][47][48] In response to increase in tension in Ukraine, Carter considered proposing deployment of ground-launched cruise missiles in Europe that could pre-emptively destroy Russian weapons.[49]”
    No wonder that Carter is a darling of ziocons.
    By all markers, Ashton Carter is a high-functioning psychopath: he has “superior intelligence, as demonstrated by observed behavior and IQ tests; possesses impeccable social skills and exudes charm; often comes from a strong family background; is driven—he knows what he wants, and he knows how to get it; is calculating, cleverly assessing a situation and purposely planning action; is patient and willing to work people and situations until the time is right for him to make his move” – and he has no conscience. This is why the US plutocracy has selected this charming, smart, totally unprincipled bureaucrat to lead Department of Defense (Offense). He is like them.
    “…the War Party is ascendant. It controls Congress..” The War Party has selected Carter as the bestest warmonger (Carter, similar to the worrisome Kagans and Wolfowitz, has zero (0) direct military experience.)
    Carter is a terrific choice for mega war-profiteers’ bank accounts; as for the families of the same profiteers – their children and grandchildren – the “choice”is able to produce a globally catastrophic result making them (and many others) cease to exist. The CIA-Pentagon bickering in Syria is an example of a law-level trigger that could activate a nuclear war. Carter is a brilliant careerist but he is not a statesman and, as a psychopath, he is a dangerously deficient human being, considering his position.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @WorkingClass
  42. Every evening the ‘news’ goes on about children dying in Syria. It’s all Putin’s vault, never unelected, warmongering, check-cashers like Ash Carter. According to the news, Obama’s policies didn’t create the war refugee problems, Syria wasn’t destroyed when he decreed “Assad must go,” and we aren’t sinking into a quagmire trying to drag Russia into one.

    If Obama cared about Syria’s children, he’d fire Carter. He hasn’t, so I assume he’s good with dragging our country deeper into a propaganda parallel universe where we wage war while blaming it on Russia, and the American people can only pay while hoping they haven’t miscalculated us into WWIII. The only way to win Obama’s Smart War is to lose and exit as quietly as possible, and help put Syria back together again. Assad’s winning is the only way forward to minimize the death and mayhem Obama and HRC have brought. Obama might think it beneath him to lose, but he had already lost when he started this mess.

  43. El Dato says:

    All what the U.S.A. has been doing with regards to Syria, Libya, even Afghanistan, has no relation with Obama’s will.

    Consider that Obama detected “red lines” back in 2014 that the wanted to bomb, I would say it corresponds totally with his “will”. It’s not strong, I would say it has the strength of Czar Nicolas II, but it is there. And it corresponds.

    Well, ok, he chilled the situation with Iran. Gotta give him that.

  44. Diogenes says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Yes, allow me to correct myself what I meant by the Theory of the Deep State was really about the theory of Deep Shit in that what appears to be at the surface the actions of legal or official agents of the State is more often emanating from unofficial and non legal power brokers who have the power to influence and/or control law makers, not exclusively by money other but by other and many varied methods of cooption and compliance or compulsion. So what bubbles up from the State cesspit of Shit runs deep with a morass of competing toxins non of which are ever able to dominate the rotten State cesspit. By the way in a democracy the common voter feeds the crap pit but has no control over its pollutions!

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  45. @Diogenes

    What a pleasant rare occurrence in the comments on UR, if not one of the great essays of the latest semi literate age:-)

    It irritates me to have to wade through the simple minded simplistic stuff on UR which tries to match the descriptions of the world to what the commenters’s IQ can accomodate in complexity. The name Rothschild in a comment is one of the most reliable identifying markers….

    • Replies: @Stonehands
  46. nsa says:

    Yellen – jooie. Fischer – jooie. Bernanke – jooie. Volcker – jooie. Miller – useful idiot goy. Burns – jooie. See a trend there, ozzie? Or just a coincidence, perhaps?

    • Replies: @Art
  47. Art says:

    Obama administration considering strikes on Assad, again, Washington Post

    The Obama presidency has to be considered a total failure.

    He was going to keep us out of wars – well what do you call Libya, Yemen, and now Syria and more fighting in Iraq. How is the world safer?

    Obamacare is a failure. He would NEVER compromise with the Republican. Domestically what has he accomplished? The answer is NOTHING! Year after year they passed budgets that doubled the deficit.

    What a waste of eight years.

    p.s. Unbelievable – the US government is attacking the people who are fighting ISIS. How totally screwed up is that?

    p.s. The Jew MSM bosses are cheering – greater Israel here we come.

  48. Art says:

    Who is Ashton Carter?

    He is the proud man who made America better and safer – it is he who put American women into foxholes.


    • Replies: @hbm
  49. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Ass Farter should be thrown in prison.

  50. Art says:

    Yellen – jooie. Fischer – jooie. Bernanke – jooie. Volcker – jooie. Miller – useful idiot goy. Burns – jooie. See a trend there, ozzie? Or just a coincidence, perhaps?

    You left out the worst of the bunch – Bubbles Greenspan!

    He did more to hurt America then anyone who has ever lived.

  51. @annamaria

    You have to be a psycho to be a war monger/profiteer. A smart guy with no conscience has a huge advantage in the service of evil. We need to identify these people in the womb and snuff them. Cash Carter is not a hawk. He is a monster.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  52. RussG553 says:

    The number of bridges over the Euphrates that have been bombed by US and its vassals is now up to 8, I believe (7 at least – lost count).

  53. Ash will have to reconsider:

  54. Rehmat says:

    Hi Sharon – was it not you the bastard who ordered the mass killing of over 3,000 innocent men, women, and children inside Sabra and Shatila refugee camps Beirut?

  55. frankie p says:
    @Anonymous Smith

    Your comment cannot be taken seriously because of the fact that you have left China off the list of countries without Rothschild controlled central banks. All the efforts of China to create failsafe firewalls in order to keep their currency and economy in the hands of the Communist Party and free from manipulation from the global financial vampires are testamony to that. I invite you to provide evidence to the contrary.

    Frankie P

    • Replies: @Anonymous Smith
  56. @Wizard of Oz

    “It irritates me to have to wade through the simple minded simplistic stuff on UR which tries to match the descriptions of the world to what the commenters’s IQ can accomodate in complexity. The name Rothschild in a comment is one of the most reliable identifying markers….”

    Are you denying that the Rothschild bankers are shareholders of the Fed?

  57. annamaria says:

    “Cash Carter is not a hawk. He is a monster…”
    Another piece of a puzzle: “Hagel was replaced with Carter because Hagel was not a neocon. …Carter is married into a hard core Ziocon family who are 150% pro-Bibi. … he is an example of the subservience of people to family influence.”
    Now we have a reason to look at Carter’s policies in the Middle East/Ukraine through a prism of ziocon interests.
    Comment section:

  58. Kiza says:

    Look what was flapping off Manhattan Bridge for one hour (before police removed it):

    This made my day!

  59. @frankie p

    You’re right…China has been trying to get out from under the thumb of the Rothschild’s. Now, the last time I checked, China owed the Bank of International Settlements (owned by Rothschild) quite a large sum of money. In addition to that, the Rothschild’s have significant holdings in the Chinese financial services industry, through The People’s Bank of China…and visa versa, The People’s Bank of China has invested in Rothschild businesses. Those are some of the direct, visible connections…behind the scenes is where the Rothschild’s exercise their influence: Through bribery, blackmail, infiltration of their agents into key positions in the financial sector, etc.. The countries on my list won’t even let the Rothschild agents set foot in their countries.

    Now, the Chinese system of government isn’t purely communist…it’s a hybrid system that includes communism and elements of capitalism under the same roof. As you well know, China has many Billionaires, a huge, thriving middle-class, and welcomes all forms of foreign investment. This type of hybrid communist/capitalist system was described by Congressman Larry P. McDonald in the following quote, from 1976…

    “The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control…Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent.”

    China is the prototype government for the New World Order…a Technocracy.

    So, that’s why China isn’t on my list…once they’ve kicked the Rothschild’s, and all the Jewish NGOs, completely out of their country, I will then put them on my list.

  60. annamaria says:

    “It is these fighters, al-Qaeda and their affiliates, that the US is trying to protect from the Russians, and as well other US intelligence operatives that are likely embedded with them. The narrative that Russia is committing a humanitarian catastrophe is intended to hide this fact, as well as to shift the blame for the suffering in Aleppo off of the US’ shoulders. Yet it was the US support to the rebels that is primarily responsible for the suffering.”
    The incredibly stupid situation that the US is in right now, when being identified as the most active supporter of Al Qaida in Syria, persists thanks to a pressure from the Lobby and war profiteers. The US has committed numerous war crimes in the name of war on terror during last 15 years and to be recognized as the main arms supplier for the demonized Al Qaida and even to be caught on military advising the ISIS/Al Qaida jihadi in their fight against a government of a sovereign state of Syria, makes US into a laughing stock. This moral and military mess is a sign of confusion inside the US government. The country does not belong to US citizenry anymore but serves as a hapless host for various parasites.

  61. hbm says:

    Don’t forget turning the Armed Forces into a welfare program for sexual psychotics interested in free genital mutilation surgery. A true American patriot.

    The enemy is Washington.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  62. mcohen says:

    below average comments

    3/10 -4.5/10

  63. Art says:

    Carter Launches Plan C; Pentagon Begins Low-Intensity, Stealth War in Syria

    Secretaries of Defense do not launch wars. Presidents do.

    This is 100% on Obama.

    • Replies: @Joe Franklin
  64. @hbm

    Here’s a link to an article that supports a related contention. Complete with a picture of two fiends, one of which is Ass Carter itself.

  65. @Art

    This is 100% on Obama.

    Don’t forget to mention Obama’s complicit advisors:

    Tony Blinken Deputy National Security Advisor

    Danielle Borrin Director of Intergovernmental Affairs and Deputy Director of Public Engagement

    Gary Gensler Chairman, Commodity Futures Trading Commission

    Jonathan Greenblatt Special Assistant to the President and Director, Office of Social Innovation and Civic Participation (Domestic Policy Council)

    Jack Lew Secretary of the Treasury

    Eric Lynn Middle East Policy Adviser

    Matt Nosanchuk Associate Director, Office of Public Engagement for Jewish Outreach

    David Plouffe Senior Advisor to the President

    Daniel Rubenstein Ambassador to Syria

    Dan Shapiro Ambassador to Israel

    Gene Sperling Director, National Economic Council

    Aviva Sufian Special Envoy, U.S. Holocaust Survivor Services (Inaugural role)

    Adam Szubin Director, Office of Foreign Assets Control (Treasury)

    Janet Yellen Chairwoman, Federal Reserve

    David Cohen Deputy Director, Central Intelligence Agency

    David Saperstein Ambassador for Religious Freedom

    Amy Rosenbaum Director of Legislative Affairs

    Raffi Freedman-Gurspan Liaison to the LGBT Community

    • Replies: @Art
  66. Che Guava says:
    @Andrei Martyanov


    Thx for the reply. However, you did not address my point about your unclear language.

    I agree, or at least, share sympathies with what you express in your reply.

    Please re-read your original post, and consider how it is not clear expression at all..


  67. Note to President Putin:
    Not all Amerikanski are supporting the current war in
    Syria. Many of us are opposed to our government’s interventions
    and hate it, but we can’t seem to stop it by ourselves.

    Perhaps someone can send this on to the Russian government.

  68. Art says:
    @Joe Franklin

    Make no mistake – they are Sayanim – working first and foremost for Jew money interests and Israel.

    sayanim (sing. Sayan; Hebrew: helpers, assistants) is a Jew living outside Israel who volunteers to provide assistance to Israel and/or the Israeli Mossad utilising …

  69. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Jim Christian

    The Generals and Ash Carter are losers.

    No way. They’re big winners. Here’s how.

    Imagine you’re Ash Carter. You got the power to do something big: win a war, trash Putin, be a national hero.

    There’s a 1% chance it’ll lead to nuclear spasm war, in which case you’ll probably be ionized in a flash like most of your compatriots.

    But the payoff, with a 99% probability, is that you’ll get more power, more fame, more money, more girls. So what you gonna do. Be a wimp, or take a small risk for the guns, girls and gold.

    It’s obvious, isn’t it. You go for the big prize, as will all of your successors. One day, inevitably, we won’t be lucky. Then it’s game over. But chances are that by then you’ve already kicked off. And if not, so what? The other guy who blew it all for everyone, is gonna do it whatever you decide to do now. So go for it.

    Which means nuclear annihilation is a certainty. Unless? What?

    • Agree: Stephen R. Diamond
  70. The US is fighting proxy wars against Russia in two countries: Ukraine and Syria. The possible gains to the US – removing Ukraine from the Russian orbit, and closing Russia’s naval base in Syria – are so trifling that the American motivation must be something else.

    It seems unlikely that the American goal in Syria is to destroy an old enemy of Israel, because the biggest threat to Israel nowadays comes from Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza.

    What is the driving force behind American actions? Have financial institutions or arms manufacturers decided that it is time we had another major war?

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