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“We want to remind you that Russia has never attacked anyone throughout its history.” Dmitri Peskov, Kremlin spokesman

“NATO leaders are now engaged in the most blatant and irresponsible destabilisation and hybrid war operation since they used Islamic terrorists to destroy Libya and attempted to use them to break up Syria.” Nick Griffin, political analyst and former Member of the European Parliament, Unz Review

Here’s your US Foreign Policy quiz for the day: Which of these militant organizations has the United States supported over the years?

  1. Marxist guerillas in East Syria (The YPG, The People’s Protection Units, The Syrian Democratic Forces)
  2. Far-right Neo-Nazis in Ukraine (Ukrainian Security Services, Azov Special Operations Detachment)
  3. Islamic extremists in Syria, Libya, Kosovo, Chechnya and Afghanistan. (aka– Al Qaida, Al Nusra etc)
  4. Anti-leftist Death Squads in El Salvador and Nicaragua
  5. All of the above

If you picked “Number 5”, then pat yourself on the back. That is the right answer. The US has “armed and trained” all of these disparate groups and still supports many of them today. And the reason Washington supports them, is because they help to advance America’s geopolitical agenda. It doesn’t matter if the group is on the “right” or the “left”. It doesn’t matter if they are religious extremists or Godless atheists. What matters is whether they can be turned into an effective fighting force capable of achieving America’s strategic objectives. That is the overriding goal.

Bottom line: Ideology is irrelevant. What matters to Washington is power; pure, iron-fisted power.

The point we are trying to make, is that other countries do not conduct their business like the United States. Russia, for example, does not see coup d’états, color revolutions and military aggression as an acceptable way to conduct their foreign policy. They prefer diplomacy, negotiation and compromise. Moscow is committed to international law, universal security, and the peaceful resolution of conflicts. They do not see aggression or interventionist violence as legitimate ways to achieve their national interests which is why– as Kremlin spokesman Dmitri Peskov said on Saturday– “Russia has never attacked anyone in its history.”

Let that sink in for a minute: “Russia has never attacked anyone in its history.”

If that is true– and it is true– then what are we to make of the media’s endless claims that Russia is planning to invade Ukraine?

Either Russia is planning to break with an approach that dates back centuries or the media is whipping the public into a frenzy to create the perception that Russia poses an external threat to its neighbors? Which is it?

Most people already know the answer to that question because they have seen this same performance many times before. Unfortunately, these same people may be overwhelmed by the deluge of fear-mongering pronouncements and dire warnings of an impending conflict. Against their better judgement, they may actually believe the media is telling the truth this time. But the media is not telling the truth. There is no Russian Boogieman and the Russian army is certainly not going to go on a rampage killing and maiming innocent people across Ukraine. That is pure fiction.

What is actually taking place is not hard to grasp, but, first, we need to understand is that the target audience is not the American people. No. The current psyops is actually directed at Europe. The goal is to convince the Europeans that they need to strengthen and perpetuate Washington’s security umbrella (aka- NATO) to protect them from foreign enemies. The plan is also intended to drive Europe’s lapdog leaders back into Uncle Sam’s suffocating embrace. These are the objectives of the current operation. The US is taking emergency action to ensure that its European colonies don’t slip out of its economic and political orbit.

Second, Washington is trying to put a wedge between the EU and Russia in order to prevent greater economic integration that would inevitably lead to a massive free trade zone spanning Europe and Asia. Washington must sabotage that plan in order to maintain its dominant role in the global order. Here’s more on the topic by political analyst, Nick Griffin:

“The fundamental targets of the NATO warmongers in this crisis are not Donbass, nor even Russia, but Germany, and China’s One Belt, One Road initiative. They are trying to keep Germany down, and China out; failure to do both means that the US will become an isolated rust-belt island thousands of miles away from the core economic block of the world.

The same development also spells the forthcoming end of the dollar as the world’s financial reserve currency, while America’s time as a sole military superpower has already clearly ended. This is a classic example of the Thucydides’ Trap, the moment when an emerging power threatens to displace an existing great power as the hegemon of the age, a transition which all too often is accompanied by a war of desperation…..

the Washington policy-makers… know that Nord Stream 2 is about far more than a mutually beneficial energy trading relationship between Germany and Russia. In the shorter term, it also spells further financial disaster for the already failed client state of Ukraine. Longer term, Nord Stream heralds a steadily closer relationship between Germany and Russia, which would in turn be a huge step towards the creation of a giant Eurasian free-trade block.” (“Ukraine Implementing Minsk Accords & Ending Conflict ‘Very Last’ Thing US, UK Want, Ex-MEP Says”, Nick Griffin, The Unz Review)

Readers may have noticed that Griffin does consider the possibility that Russia might be the instigator of the current crisis. Why is that?

It’s because it is not possible, it’s that simple. As we have pointed out, Washington has everything to gain from a conflict in Ukraine, while Russia has everything to lose. If Washington’s plan succeeds, Russia will be further isolated and demonized, its commercial relations with Germany will be terminated, and it will be universally scorned as a bloodthirsty and tyrannical warmonger. How does any of this benefit Russia?

It doesn’t, and yet, this is the current direction of US policy, a policy that is dramatically shaping the public’s perception of Russia while ignoring Washington’s conspicuous attempts to reinforce its control over Europe and tighten its grip on the levers of global power.

So, how does one break the media’s spell so that people can see what is really going on? How do we raise awareness of the geopolitical gamesmanship that is playing out behind the smokescreen of disinformation? How do we cut through the media’s prodigious mountain of baloney and determine who is responsible for the current crisis and who is not?

It should be easy, after all, we’ve all seen this performance many times before. By now, people should have a good idea of what’s going on. And– if they don’t– then, perhaps, we can refresh their memories by asking a few simple questions that will shed light on the motives and historical behavior of the main actors, the United States and Russia. That ought to do the trick. That ought to help us to see which country is instigating the provocations, and which country is not. Which country is fueling the crisis and which country is trying to put out the flames.

So, what do we know about these two countries from past experience? How do they conduct their respective foreign policies? Do they follow the clearly-written “international” rules prohibiting foreign interference, military intervention and aggression or do they act unilaterally whenever it serves their interests regardless of the destruction, mayhem and death it may cause?

Answering these questions will lift us above the flustering din of the establishment media. It will help us to see that we are not comparing one peaceful, law-abiding nation to another peaceful, law-abiding nation. We are comparing one country that scrupulously follows the rules whether it is convenient or not, to another that invariably shows utter contempt for the basic principles of international law. While Russia has never launched a war of aggression, the US has initiated a series of conflicts that have plunged vast swathes of the Middle East and Central Asia into anarchy and ruin. Thus, the purpose of this questionnaire is to allow readers to mull-over the facts as we all know them, and determine for themselves where the source of the current crisis originates.

Question 1– Which of these two countries has launched– or helped to launch– military interventions in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Serbia and Syria?

  1. Russia
  2. The United States

Question 2– Which of these two countries built detention facilities at Bagram Air Force Base (Afghanistan), Abu Ghraib (Iraq), and Guantanamo Bay (Cuba), where prisoners were routinely subjected to vile and abusive treatment in violation of the Geneva Conventions?

  1. Russia
  2. The United States

Question 3– Which of the two countries fabricated a pretext for invading Iraq killing tens of thousands of Iraqis in the process?

  1. Russia
  2. The United States

Question 4– Which of these two countries has toppled or attempted to topple over 50 regimes since the end of World War 2?

  1. Russia
  2. The United States

Question 5– Which of these two countries has 800 military bases in countries around the world?

  1. Russia
  2. The United States

Question 6– Which of these two countries is more inclined to use military force to achieve its geopolitical objectives?

  1. Russia
  2. The United States

Question 7– Which of the two countries has repeatedly used false flags as a pretext for launching military interventions? (Note: “Remember the Maine”, Pearl Harbor, Gulf of Tonkin, Saddam’s WMD, Assad’s chemical weapons attacks, Gaddafi’s Viagra-crazed rape squads, etc)

  1. Russia
  2. The United States

Question 8– Which of the two countries is building nuclear missile sites on the other county’s border putting their main urban centers just 10 minutes away from nuclear annihilation?

  1. Russia
  2. The United States

Question 9– Which of these two counties (according to recent surveys) pose “the greatest threat to world peace” and represent “the greatest threat to democracy”?

  1. Russia
  2. The United States

(Note: According to the survey results: “The US was the overwhelming choice for the country that represents the greatest threat to peace in the world today.” Also, “Threat to Democracy?” Guardian)

Question 10– Which is these two countries imposes onerous economic sanctions (which are a violation of WTO rules and regulations) on any country that poses a threat to its global primacy?

  1. Russia
  2. The United States

Question 11– Which of these two countries “has never attacked anyone throughout its history”?

  1. Russia
  2. The United States

Question 12– Which country has provided military advisors and cutting-edge weaponry to the Ukrainian Army so they can invade east Ukraine and kill ethnic Russians?

  1. Russia
  2. The United States

Question 13– Which country’s media fails to report that the Ukrainian army is presently shelling ethnic Russians in the eastern part of the country?

  1. The Russian media
  2. The western media

Question 14– Which country’s media continues to repeat unverified claims of a “Russian invasion” while ignoring the buildup of Ukrainian combat troops (on the “Line of Contact”) that are planning a massive ethnic cleansing operation in east Ukraine?

  1. The Russian media
  2. The western media

Question 15– Which country’s media sustained a 4 year-long disinformation campaign alleging that the other country had hacked their presidential election and changed the outcome?

  1. The Russian media
  2. The western media

Question 16– Which country’s media has proved to be a more reliable source of information and does not function as the propaganda organ of the state disseminating unverified claims gathered from the corrupted Intelligence agencies who unquestioningly parrot the screwball narratives concocted by their globalist paymasters?

  1. The Russian media
  2. The western media

Question 17– (Extra Credit) Which country’s president is more likely to lead his nation into a catastrophic war that will be remembered as “the greatest strategic disaster in his nation’s history”?

  1. Vladimir Putin
  2. Joe Biden

The point of this article is not to bash the United States, but to provide historical evidence showing the stark difference between Washington’s approach to foreign policy and Russia’s. The questions are intended to help the reader review the historical facts– as we all know them– and decide for himself if the perpetrator of the current crisis is more likely to be the United States or Russia. The evidence– we think– clearly suggests that the blame lies with Washington, which is conducting another regionally-destabilizing operation aimed at strengthening its grip on global power.

Swansong for the New American Century?

For what it’s worth, we expect this operation to backfire spectacularly triggering violent ructions in the equities and bond markets that no one in the Biden administration has anticipated. It will also inflict irreparable damage to the threadbare Transatlantic Alliance leading to the ultimate disintegration of NATO. Even America’s most die-hard allies will be forced to revisit their relations with Washington to determine whether the reputational risks exceed the marginal benefits. 30-years of relentless aggression, unilateralism and coercion has pushed the country towards a catastrophe entirely of its own making.

We are now at the point of extreme danger brought on by feckless leaders who fail to acknowledge their own incompetence, their own hubris, and their own failures. The United States has been sowing dragons-teeth for the better part of the last century, and now Joe Biden is marching the country towards an unfortunate moment of reckoning. God help us all.

 
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  1. Cookie says:

    The problem is the American people have never been able to keep their dogs on a chain, so they go around biting everyone.

    Its quite simple, stop participating in sham elections and cut paying the portion of tax that goes to the military industrial complex…in fact stop paying tax at all…big business doesn’t pay and gains all the benefit of war.

    Americans its your stupidity and apathy that is causing this…get your dogs back on the chain!

  2. Trying to pretend that Russia has never attacked anyone, ever, is not helpful. There may be Finns still alive today who are eyewitnesses to the invasion of Finland in 1939. And John Wear did a pretty good job of making the case that an invasion of Germany was imminent had Hitler and company not prevented it by attacking them first. Russia is well over a 1000 years old. Of course they have attacked other nations.

    That said, the USA certainly appears to be the instigator of the messes mentioned here.

  3. Notsofast says:

    spot on as usual mike, thanks for pointing out that there is no right or left to the multi headed c.i.a. hydra. they represent the absolute worst element in all political and religious ideologies, for they are devoid of any decency and moral and represent only chaos, bloodshed and destruction in the service of their dark lords.

    • Replies: @tetrachord
  4. AntiDem says:

    >“Russia has never attacked anyone in its history.”

    I’m quite sure the Czechs and the Hungarians would disagree with that assessment.

    • LOL: profnasty
  5. Notsofast says:
    @Jefferson Temple

    i believe he is differentiating between russia and the soviet union. imo the soviets would never have been foolish enough to attack the german war machine as they were completely out gunned by the technologically superior german army. the soviets had been defeated by poland in the previous decade and never would have stood a chance against the germans without massive military aid from the u.s and u.k. the germans wanted the soviet oil fields in baku and if they had succeeded, probably would have won the war.

  6. 800 bases, not 800 countries…

    • Replies: @Quartermaster
  7. @Notsofast

    I don’t think so. Russia was involved in tons of wars in Europe and Asia throughout her long history. They were an empire, right? You don’t get to be an empire if you don’t send your army to bitch slap the competition now and then, right?

    I think the US is largely to blame for mismanaging the post Soviet world but that doesn’t mean the history of Russia should be whitewashed to try to make them appear like benign little lambs. It’s kind of disrespectful to the Russians as well as the reader when you think about it.

    • Agree: Decoy
    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    , @Notsofast
  8. Ko says:

    Russia never attacked anyone?

    Well, let’s see. I suppose all of those countries Russia occupied following WW ll attacked Russia, right? And Russia (yes, I know, Soviets) defended itself.

    • Agree: Sepp
  9. Wokechoke says:
    @Jefferson Temple

    USSR not exactly Russia. Try again. Seems like sophistry but it’s still important.

  10. Wokechoke says:
    @Jefferson Temple

    It’s a reasonable distinction. Russia as a nation state hasn’t been a very aggressive power. As an Empire under German aristocrats, yes, as a Communist regime under a Georgian Stalin and his Ukrainian Khrushchev lackey, yes it was aggressive. The USSR was not a Russian enterprise. In fact the communism suppressed natural national limitations. There’s a good argument to be made that Russia watched while aggressive states like France under Napoleon colonised Europe and eventually liberated the nations. There’s a good argument that the USSR collapsed during Barbarossa the Russian component rediscovered their nationalism and fought back from annihilation in Leningrad, Moscow and Volgograd as a nation. The British and French were far more aggressive historically. The Third Reich whatever you may like or not like about them, they were a war machine and heavily bombed 50 or so European cities in their victorious operations 1939-1942.

    The fighting in the Caucasus with Chechens and Georgians? Not all that big of problem. Pale in comparison to something like Iraq or Syria.

    • Disagree: HdC
    • Replies: @HdC
    , @tetrachord
  11. Notsofast says:
    @Jefferson Temple

    if you look into the long history of russia you will see that they have been invaded by many different countries, the mongols/tartars, the lithuanians/poles, the swedes, the ottoman empire, the french and the germans. each time they have pushed the invaders out and in some cases taken additional lands as the spoils of war but they were not a colonial empire like the british, french, spanish, dutch, german and american empires. they pretty much kept to their own neighborhood much like the chinese and imo this is why both of these countries will endure long after the crumbling zioneocon empire has expired.

    • Replies: @Jefferson Temple
  12. anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    Ideology is irrelevant. What matters to Washington is power; pure, iron-fisted power

    Yes but power is an instrument, a means to an end, the end being in this case to scoop up the wealth of the world. The power that a gun gives to a highwayman enables him to divest others of their valuables.
    The fake president has postured himself as someone interested in keeping Americans ‘safe’ from the Red Death virus and yet he now endangers the planet with his recklessness, subjecting all of us to actual jeopardy. He was head of the Senate’s Foreign Relations Committee at one time, showing how utterly mediocre the people making our policies must be. The prospect of a bunch of Ukrainians and Russians getting killed probably evokes some Hilary-like cackles from this inner group.

  13. Right_On says:

    Joe Sobran’s definition of an isolationist: “An American who thinks America should behave like other countries.”

    Someone else took a dig at opponents of appeasement, saying they believe that WWII could have been avoided if only it had started earlier. Ouch!

    • Thanks: Old Prude
  14. The point of this article is not to bash the United States, but to provide historical evidence showing the stark difference between Washington’s approach to foreign policy and Russia’s.

    The unintended consequence of your article, Mr. Whitney, is the display of your staggering ignorance on all 17 points. Your false dilemmas prove your dishonesty and your failure to acknowledge your own incompetence is evidence of your own hubris. Shame on you.

    • Disagree: JR Foley, Shafar Nullifidian
    • Troll: Bro43rd
    • Replies: @Humbert Humbert
  15. @Notsofast

    And @wokechoke, the article repeats several times that Russia has never attacked anyone. That is Kremlin propaganda for the credulous. What if I said, well, the US has never really attacked anyone except when X, Y, or Z was running the government? Sounds stupid right? I could say well, Germany never really attacked anyone until the Allies stripped them of many of their lands under the Treaty of Versailles and imposed unfair crushing debt and the Bolsheviks were trying to foment a soviet revolution in the wounded country. I could say well, the Saxons weren’t aggressive until they spent centuries fighting and expelling Viking invaders and then they took a little land to compensate themselves later for their trouble. Is that the same? Does it matter that the Kievan Rus themselves were descended from Vikings?

    In fact, Soviet Russia attacked other countries and pre-Soviet Russia attacked other countries from time to time. To assert otherwise is silly and pointless.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
  16. One-off says:
    @Jefferson Temple

    Thanks, all true. Pretending Russia doesn’t have a history of invading other countries is ludicrous and detracts from an otherwise excellent overview. Poland, for example, has been invaded and absorbed into Russia several times, including the recent unpleasantries that led to the second world war.

    That aside, it is clear the United States is desperate to stop Nord Stream Two from launching and is acting batshit crazy over Ukraine as a head feint. As Whitney and others have observed, the target audience here is Germany. As an American, the spectacle of D.C. doing its latest Chicken Little act is humiliating. The serious danger, which is unspoken, is the madness could lead to a nuclear war. The psychopathology the dying empire has displayed probably makes it a temptation to strike first. Surely there remains some sane folks at State and within the MIC who can stop the insanity.

  17. That’s such a nice regurgitation of Putin’s talking points. You also engage in the same old lies about Nazis being right wing. They are not. Nazism was always of the left, just like all forms of statism are.

    The US had nothing to do with Yanukovich running for Russia, nor was there a coup in Ukraine, except in Crimea. And save yourself the effort – the referendum was utterly bogus.

    There is no future in being a Putnist shill.

    • Disagree: JR Foley, siberiancat
    • Troll: Bro43rd, neutral
    • Replies: @JR Foley
    , @JohnnyRVF
    , @HdC
  18. @inspector general

    The 800 base number is utterly bogus.

    • Troll: Mevashir
    • Replies: @JR Foley
  19. @Jefferson Temple

    Putin doesn’t need any trouble causing messes. He is quite competent at that. Russian aggression if the cause of the theft of Crimea, the attempt to take a land bridge to Crimea by creating an insurrection in the Donbas, which failed miserable (Russia holds half of what they originally had and they were pushed back by mostly untrained civilians).

    Russia is the aggressor. Putin is lying about foreigners building nuke launch sites, the shelling in the Donbas (done by his heavy weapons which are illegal under Minsk), and his ravings about mass graves in the Donbas. Putin is an inveterate liar, just like every good KGB slug is good at it.

    • Disagree: Badger Down
    • LOL: JR Foley
    • Replies: @Jefferson Temple
    , @WJ
    , @grr
  20. @One-off

    We can only hope that the sheer terror of the prospect of a nuclear exchange will prevent one from occurring.

    I’ve been a big admirer of Whitney’s columns over the past year or so. That’s why I was nonplussed today over this assertion about Russia never being the aggressor. A head-scratcher.

    • Agree: Matthew Kelly
    • Replies: @Flying Dutchman
  21. @Quartermaster

    I disagree. Putin is looking out for Russian interests, as he should. The woke dumpster fire that passes for the US government is the aggressor. They’re playing a dangerous game because years of bad governing have left few options. That’s how I see it anyway.
    We’re a long way past friendly attitude toward all, entangling alliances with none.

  22. @Cookie

    It’s not the American people, dumbass…..

    it’s the neocon jews.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
    • LOL: Realist
  23. I like how the Russians have a habit of responding to an American lie with a lie of their own. Russia didn’t become the largest country in the world by being nice.

    • Troll: RoatanBill
    • Replies: @Mario Partisan
  24. Seraphim says:
    @Ko

    Some of them did: Romania, Hungary and, well… Germany!

    • Replies: @Sepp
  25. JR Foley says:
    @Quartermaster

    Are you a writer from the CIA or slug from Washington Post?

    • Replies: @Fred777
    , @Quartermaster
  26. JR Foley says:
    @Quartermaster

    How about this one Hindquarter–The land of the Blue eyed Jesus created by God in 1776 and blessed with 246 years of existence has only known peace or rather, has not been at war, for 20 years. Now you I suppose are a Sunday church attender so open your abridged comic book to Proverbs at Chapter 6 where it reads for the record:

    [MORE]

    There are six things the Lord hates,
    seven that are detestable to him:
    haughty eyes,
    a lying tongue,
    hands that shed innocent blood,
    a heart that devises wicked schemes,
    feet that are quick to rush into evil,
    a false witness who pours out lies
    and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.

    USA is not doing what the Creator suggests it should do and in reality “In God we trust” on the dollar bill is NOT God Almighty but the god of this world –his name is Satan and he has been a liar and a murderer from day one.

    Now think –USA since WWII – Korea – Vietnam – Afghanistan – Libya – Somalia – Iraq – Serbia and now 1,000,000,000,000 for another year’s spending allowance for the Defence ( Offense) Department and it is being paid for by the American taxpayers but not the elite 1% who enjoy tax write-offs.

    • Agree: Notsofast
    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Quartermaster
  27. It’s simple. Russia demands NATO leave eastern europe. Perhaps they put a nuclear gun to the head of Israel, then blast NATO military installations all the way back to Berlin. Rebuild the wall. Patrol the entire length with drones. Keep the defensive pressure on the Ukies with the tanks, troops, and missiles. Dominate Eurasia.

    • Replies: @Quartermaster
  28. Sean says:

    Didn’t Russia under Catherine the Great attack Prussia?

    How the Army Made Britain a Global Power
    1688-1815
    CASEMATE 2021

    In the new book, How the Army Made Britain a Global Power: 1688-1815, published by Casemate, acclaimed historian and commentator Professor Jeremy Black, looks at this neglected, but ultra-important topic. Between 1760 and 1815, British troops campaigned from Manila to Montreal, Cape Town to Copenhagen, Washington to Waterloo. The naval dimension of Britain’s expansion has been superbly covered by a number of excellent studies, but there has not been a single volume that does the same for the army and, in particular, looks at how and why it became a world-operating force, one capable of beating the Marathas as well as the French. […]No other army matched this. The closest capability was that of Russia able, in 1806-14, to defeat both the Turks and Napoleon

    There were Russian troops in Switzerland by the end of the Napoleonic wars.

    Anyway, while it is true the US has bullied other countries, the important thing to understand is it did so the the extent it suited America’s purpose; they continued doing what had proved efficacious because they would be fools not to. Don’r expect Russia to be foolish, give Putin what he wants, and he is going to stick with what works and make further demands with menaces; why would he not? Eventually he would require something of the West it was going to balk at and by then Putin’s as if threatening military preparation for hostilities ploy might have so much momentum it could end in WW3.

    The Telegraph
    Yes, there is a whiff of Munich about the West’s appeasement of Putin
    With Macron attempting to push Ukraine into surrendering sovereignty, Ben Wallace is correct to point out that compromise can be hazardous.

    Read it at:-
    https://digitaleditions.telegraph.co.uk/data/881/reader/reader.html?#!preferred/0/package/881/pub/881/page/4/article/277106

    This problem requires both sides to compromise, not one party to go away thinking ‘So easy to get what I wanted with military pressure, I will try that again’.

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  29. Let that sink in for a minute: “Russia has never attacked anyone in its history.”

    At the risk of nitpicking, this needs some clarification. “Russia” is used as shorthand for both the Russian Empire and the Russian Federation. (Careless folks also used “Russia” to describe the USSR)

    The Russian Empire was as aggressive as anyone, and bulldozed its way to the East across Asia in the same way the US of A drove West across North America.

    The Russian Federation was born in desperate poverty and weakness, and it’s true that in the thirty odd years since it began it hasn’t started a foreign war.

    It’s also true that I found little else to quibble about in Mr. Whitney’s essay.

  30. termite says:

    Wow! Reading the questions, I am still not sure if the Mike is insulting the intelligence of the US readers, or the readers are that dumb. I am speechless.

  31. Mevashir says:

    This whole article seems awfully convoluted, when all you have to recognize is the US staged a coup d’etat in 2014 and has been pushing against Russia ever since.

    Beyond that, this feels a lot like a staged managed theatrical production. Maybe Putin wants to keep Biden propped up recognizing that he’s the only person in Washington who isn’t a die-hard warmonger. Maybe Putin thinks that Biden is the only thing standing between Russia and ZOG.

    WHY NOT JUST INVITE RUSSIA TO JOIN NATO AND VOILA PROBLEM SOLVED?!

    Or rename the UN NATO and again problem solved?!

    Notice the many similarities between Putin and Biden. Both of them have five letters in their last name. Both of them are reportedly devout about their faith, Russian Orthodox and Roman Catholic. Both of them have Jewish friends and relatives. Both of them are physically fit, Biden surprisingly so for a man of his age. I suspect on this last point Putin has a lot more respect for Biden than he did for Trump.

  32. Pamela says:
    @AntiDem

    It wasn’t Russia who used force to stop revolt in any of those countries, but the USSR. Media brainwashing is used to make Russia responsible for decisions taken by a conglomerate of nations and when the prime decision makers were in fact of a non-Russian nation I. E Georgia, Ukraine.

    • Replies: @erzberger
  33. Ghali says:

    Question #3 is not accurate. It should read:
    Which of the two countries fabricated a pretext for invading [and illegally occupying] Iraq killing [more than 1.5 million innocent Iraqi civilians and deliberately destroyed Iraq’s vital infrastructure] in the process?

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  34. A notable absence and crucial actor in the very scary scenarios depicted in this piece is the real puppeteer behind most, if not all, of America’s foreign policy initiatives – Israel. Consider the “flustering… din” created by the MSM without the hand of Israel firster Jews in total control of media narratives – and Hollywood. Consider the infiltration of key posts in any American administration by these welfare parasites of American tax dollars and a clearer, more comprehensive picture emerges.

    • Agree: Doug Hillman
    • Replies: @Miro23
  35. @One-off

    The serious danger, which is unspoken, is the madness could lead to a nuclear war. The psychopathology the dying empire has displayed probably makes it a temptation to strike first. Surely there remains some sane folks at State and within the MIC who can stop the insanity.

    Even if there are a few sane individuals skulking around keeping their heads down within those institutions, the institutions themselves have long since gone fully berserk and there can be no stopping the insanity from within. (No more than it was ever possible to “be a moderate influence from within the Nazi party”, the way many party members suddenly in 1945 claimed to have been.)

    I have no doubt at all that when all other options look exhausted, and perhaps earlier than that, the US empire will let the missiles fly as a last-ditch attempt to prop up its power, rather than submit to the collapse of that imperial power. The empire’s record gives zero reason to doubt this.

    That’s why the US government feels so comfortable behaving so recklessly: In its hive-mind it’s already at peace with the idea that someday they’re going to start WWIII. For them nuclear war is “imminent” the same way Christians say Christ’s return is imminent: It’s ready to happen the moment things are ready for it to happen.

    (Unfortunately Putin, with his evident fetish of endless talking and begging for reassurance from the US, also has given the US neocons reason to believe that in the end the Russians will surrender, so that WWIII might not be necessary after all. This perception also drives US reckless belligerence. Putin’s appeasement pattern, to the point that he’s STILL babbling pathetically about the dead-on-arrival Minsk agreement, is in itself destabilizing.)

    (If any of the US elites still need to convince themselves on a personal level that the US can and will win a nuclear war, and that they and their families personally can survive it, they’re convincing themselves of that right now.)

    • Replies: @One-off
  36. Anonymous[818] • Disclaimer says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    Alone the front picture of that video is most disgusting:
    Jews tabling with Jews Ukrainian and American or Jewish interests?

    Putin failed! He did not send a Tsirkon to that table talk.

    Ah sorry; 2014 Russian hypersonics were not ready yet (against the Jew).
    I wonder if the Jew ever gets to consume his own violence?

    But there are some seemingly positive news about medicine for the Jew:
    https://www.voltairenet.org/article215737.html

    • Replies: @Doug Hillman
  37. @Jefferson Temple

    We can only hope that the sheer terror of the prospect of a nuclear exchange will prevent one from occurring.

    It’s clear that the US elites don’t share this terror. If Europe’s elites feel that terror it’s not enough so far to motivate them to break free of US domination.

    As for we terrified peasants who have eyes to see, unless we’re going to rely on nothing but only hope, we need to incorporate the imminent prospect of nuclear war into whatever preparations we’re making for restored communities, alternative economies etc.

  38. John D. says:
    @Jefferson Temple

    I would agree that the Russians rolled into Finland because of a border dispute between them.

    However, a cursory glance at “Mein Kampf” in the mid-thirties would have left the reader in doubt of Hitler’s intentions towards Russia. Also, in war, the party that strikes first has the upper hand. So Stalin did indeed consider making the first move against Hitler but decided against it because his army were not ready.

    Instead, he opted for stalling tactics with Germany by signing a peace treaty with them while secretly building his forces for the invasion he knew Hitler had planned.

    But I might also have added to the list of questions, “Which Superpower has used nucear weapond in anger and against a non-nuclear Country?” and maybe also, “Which superpower used a powerful chemical defoliant extensively against a defenceless civilian population in the 70’s?”

    There are too many examples to mention all of them!


  39. Moscow is committed to international law, universal security, and the peaceful resolution of conflicts.

    As many observers will readily recognize, this is just one of the many falsehoods presented in this article. It is truly enlightening to see the “useful idiot” phenomenon so glaringly on display here. Still, many readers who are dissatisfied with US policies will reflexively gobble up this pro-Russia nonsense-propaganda because of a propensity toward simplistic binary perceptions, gullibility, lacking a historical perspective, or the capacity to think critically and in a nuanced manner.

    I have pointed out elsewhere on this site that Russia’s ongoing occupation of the Königsberg / Kaliningrad region is in violation of international law, as is its military threat to neighboring countries from there. Also, I have pointed out that its current military stance is in violation of the United Nations Chaarter, Article 2(4). Unlike past violations by “Moscow” already cited by other commentators in this thread, these violations are actively continuing, in progress at this moment.

    The list of demands Russia conveyed a week before Christmas 2021, under the threat of military force, violates the sovereignty of its neighboring countries, whose populations are glad to have gotten rid of prior occupations by Soviet forces. Russia acknowledged the rights of these countries to choose their alliances in a 1997 treaty in Paris, yet now it wants to blackmail them to relinquish their security so that “Moscow” may regain its former sphere of influence over them.

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  40. JWalters says:
    @Cookie

    I agree with the problem you cite. But it seems to me there is also a deeper problem. The American people have been successfully lied to by predators behind the scenes. They completely control the trusted mainstream press, and the decision-making politicians. The American people are unaware that their country is under the control of malevolent actors who disdain America’s stated ideals (like freedom of speech), and who are driving “America” to act against the interests of Americans themselves.

    Who are these stealth predators? They are the financial powers of the former British empire, who retained their financial empire even while Britain’s political empire collapsed after WWII. Here’s a recent, informative video on this financial empire by Matt Ehret.
    “The British Hand Behind the Global Deep State”


    Video Link
    At the center of this financial empire is the Rothschild bank.
    “War Profiteers and Israel’s Bank”
    https://warprofiteerstory.blogspot.com/p/war-profiteers-and-israels-bank.html

    And the British “aristocracy” are slavish servants of whoever has the money. (And America’s political and press “elite” are the same sort of people.)
    “How the Establishment Functions”
    https://consortiumnews.com/2022/02/10/how-the-establishment-functions/

    Consider this: On 9/11, before building 7 collapsed (not hit by a plane), a London TV news show reported its collapse. How would someone in London know this building was going to collapse? We know the Israelis did it, so Tel Aviv would make sense. But London? Well, the establishment of Israel (i.e. the military invasion expenses) was financed by the Rothschilds. So perhaps London was directing the 9/11 operation at the top level.

    The London news show clip is included in this video.
    “Former NIST Employee Speaks Out On World Trade Centre Towers Collapse Investigation”

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
    , @Cookie
    , @S
  41. Tom Welsh says:

    ‘“We want to remind you that Russia has never attacked anyone throughout its history.” Dmitri Peskov, Kremlin spokesman’.

    Like almost all sweeping generalisations about history, this turns out not to be true. In the Seven Years War, for example, a Russian army invaded Prussia in alliance with Austria, France and Sweden; in 1759 Austrian and Russian forces threatened Berlin and defeated Frederick the Great at the Battle of Kunersdorf, wiping out half of the entire Prussian army.

    Later, in 1799, General Suvorov led an army against the French in Italy and Switzerland – hardly the last defences of Russia! And of course Russian armies fought regularly against Napoleon when he was far from the borders of Russia, and before he invaded Russia. If Napoleon had not felt that the Russian government would never rest until he was overthrown and the Bourbons restored to the throne of France, he would probably not have felt the need to attack Russia.

  42. Tom Welsh says:
    @AntiDem

    If you are referring to the Soviet conquest and retention of Eastern Europe after 1945, it is reasonable to argue that the USSR was merely finishing nthe war that Germany launched against it. Note also that Hungary and the various parts of Czechoslovakia, willingly or unwillingly, accompanied the Germans in their invasion of the USSR. They began the war, so the USSR was quite within its legal rights to defeat them and occupy their countries.

    Strategically, the main reason for the Warsaw Pact was that the leaders of the USSR wanted a much bigger buffer of territory between them and what they quite reasonably expected to be the next huge invasion from Europe. Today, so easily giving up that buffer is looking more and more foolish.

    • Agree: Catdompanj
  43. Carton says:

    An interesting question: If New York, Washington DC and Los Angeles were destroyed by foreign nuclear missiles – would the rest of the United States applaud and feel relieved…?

    • Replies: @JR Foley
  44. Petermx says:

    Maybe I’ll come back to this article another time. I stopped reading when the article said the US armed “Far-right Neo-Nazis in Ukraine (Ukrainian Security Services, Azov Special Operations Detachment)”. Those so called “Neo-Nazis” are under the control of the Jewish president of Ukraine, President Zelenskyy. The Jews control most of the government and media and with stupid statements like yours, Ukrainians will never have control over there own country. To idiots like yourself, Ukrainians are “NAZIS” because they fought against the murderous Bolsheviks that killed at least 8 million of them in the 1930’s. Naturally, they supported the Germans and joined forces with them against the mass murderers in their own government that killed so many of them. The same thing happened in Latvia and Estonia.

    Apparently, Ukrainians can never have their own country. They have to be ruled over by Jews so idiots like Mike Whitney won’t call them “NAZIS”. Ukrainians, those people from Ukraine that speak Ukrainian, honor their soldiers that fought against the Judeo-Bolshevik mass murderers that killed so many of them. They welcomed the Germans because the Germans were not murdering them and were fighting the Judeo-Bolshevik murderers. Their hero Stepan Bandera has a statue in his honor in Lviv.

  45. Wokechoke says:
    @Jefferson Temple

    I don’t view the Soviet Union as a Russian entity. And you know why.

    • Replies: @Quartermaster
  46. MW gives an overblown version of things, even when essentially correct. If Hitler had not been determined to plunge into eastern Europe in pursuit of living space, then there would have been 2 decades, 1935-55, of Cold War between the Third Reich and the Soviet Union in which no Soviet attack would have been made on Finland, no Soviet occupation of the Baltics would have occurred, and by the mid-50s the emergence of someone like Khrushchev would have discredited Stalin’s maniacal purges. Russia, under both Czarist and Soviet leadership, was certainly an empire (and remains one today under Putin). But it was not as forwardly aggressive as either Hitler’s ambitious attempt to conquer living space for the Aryan race or as the global interventionism which the US has carried on since 1945. Making it sound as if there simply is no such thing as Russian imperialism, past or present, just sounds naive though. Putin does seem like the type of cautious politician who will probably be careful about stumbling into a foolish venture in Ukraine. But we’ll have to see.

    • Disagree: Petermx
  47. @One-off

    Here in central Central Europe (Bavaria-Austria-Hungary), many people feel that the partitioning of Poland, the Ribbentrop-Molotov compact aka Hitler-Stalin agreement, the Winter War, the atrocities of WW2 and the military interventions of 1952, 1956 and 1968 are wrongs of the past, whereas the banking crises (plural – the S&L disaster has been overshadowed by the 2008 “habbening” but should not be forgotten), the flooding of Europe with chimps and towelheads, the forced deindustrialisation and the imposition of wokeism at the expense of democracy are very much grievances of the present… and they originate not from Russia but from the US.

    • Agree: nokangaroos
  48. Anon[104] • Disclaimer says:

    By the copious amount of Hasbara comments on this thread, one concludes that Mike‘s articles are hitting home.

    One can also reasonably conclude the War Party is in desperation mode. They evil scheme to sow death and destruction in Europe seems to have been stymied by level heads.

    Samizdat has now emerged as the trusted news service. No one believes regimist Media any longer.

    • Replies: @Bro43rd
  49. History shows every empire eventually meets the war it seeks to avoid – its own destruction. It will launch that war in the vain effort to avoid that war.
    https://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/

  50. @Wokechoke

    And it was a Georgian that invaded ‘?Finalnd’.

  51. idealogus says:

    O My God!
    Nobody knows how to use gooogle anymore!
    Of course, Russia had plenty wars of conquest. I don’t remember the whole area between the Urals and the Pacific voting democratically for union with Russia.
    Don’t get me wrong. I am on Russia’s side in this conflict. Ukraine should be as neutral as Finland or Switzerland to avoid an atomic war.
    But on the other hand, the Russian ambassador could say such nonsense only in the USA. Only there the population is so history iliterate that they accept any Hollywood style statement like this.
    Smart people usually refrain from making obvious lies that are so very easy to dismantle.
    Where is Russia’s border? Where she wants! East Europe Joke. The joke is the result of living with the Russians for 300 years.

    • Replies: @matzahballsgonewrong
  52. JohnnyRVF says:
    @Quartermaster

    If you are going to Troll, might I suggest you learn how to be less than an irrevocably hopeless amateur? It might help to get out of your mum’s basement as well.

    • Replies: @Quartermaster
  53. Anonymous[355] • Disclaimer says:

    The current psyops is actually directed at Europe. The goal is to convince the Europeans that they need to strengthen and perpetuate Washington’s security umbrella (aka- NATO) to protect them from foreign enemies.

    And is instead convincing Europe that the US is too dangerous an ally to continue their US alliance.

    Washington is trying to put a wedge between the EU and Russia in order to prevent greater economic integration that would inevitably lead to a massive free trade zone spanning Europe and Asia.

    If Russia does not ally with Europe, then Europe will descend to an industrialized bit player, and Russia will do much the same while losing Siberia to China.

    The fundamental targets of the NATO warmongers in this crisis are not Donbass, nor even Russia, but Germany, and China’s One Belt, One Road initiative.

    This is again Mackinder’s contribution to Geopolitics. The US does not want to become the Oceanic player, because Mackinder says that player loses in the long run. I’ve pointed out that a bipartite division of Asia into Eurasia (Europe/Russia) and EastAsia (China and subject allies) the best outcome the US can now gat, as it prevents deployment of Asian resources against the Oceanic power.

    The US is clearly trying to get the Russian Federation (RF) to violate the UN stricture against aggression using state sponsored troops. Mike Whitney is doing something like using rhetoric to prove that the sun rises in the morning. He’s also doing what he implicitly criticizing, accusing the US of the equivalent to throwing premature babies out of incubators. That isn’t the best part of Whitney’s article. For that matter, trying to assume the authority of a pedant asking one question after another is a bit past its prime, having been overused in recent years.

    The US doing once again trying to get RF to put itself in the wrong because the US government is disintegrating, as is the US political system. It would not surprise me to see proof that the transition of Canada to authoritarian rule is a live exercise to increase chance of success for something similar in the US. Remember that the current US elite has broken many laws while trying to stay in power. An international crisis might provide the distraction the elite needs to win the 2022 and 2024 elections.
    A disintegrating government does not know what to do, so it does what it knows. In this case, it is simply trying to implement the US long term attempt to integrate Asia into the US world trade system. That attempt failed with the withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan, but habit is strong. Consider the US policy of moving NATO up to the RF’s borders, and the color revolution in Ukraine.
    In fact, the US doesn’t now have a conventional military establishment that could engage any near peer (https://smallwarsjournal.com/jrnl/art/us-not-ready-peer-peer-fight-europe). Further, RF has said that it will use nuclear weapons, and no conventional or counterinsurgency force can survive a nuclear assault. An actual war would be the end of NATO and force the US into an immediate Oceanic strategy. Economically, it would produce a large drop in global productivity and a financial panic in the US. Unless the US government is trying to get itself ejected from NATO as too erratic to live near, the US government’s attempt to start a fight in Eastern Europe is an attempt to bring about something that would be very bad for the US.

    The only US policy with a chance of success is AUKUS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AUKUS), which forms the Oceanic alliance. If you want a mnemonic, the disappointment of the US in having to use this strategy can be heard by pronouncing AUKUS (Aw, cuss!).

  54. Lee says:

    Question 18

    What country has Russia recently invaded?

    Answer

    Russia invaded the Ukraine in 2014 when they took over Crimea. Some have short memories here.

    OF said:

    That aside, it is clear the United States is desperate to stop Nord Stream Two from launching and is acting batshit crazy over Ukraine as a head feint.

    If that is the case, why did Biden on his few days in office agree to lift the sanctions on NS2 allowing for its completion———–sanctions that DT had put in place to try and stop it??

    • Replies: @Robjil
  55. Fred777 says:
    @JR Foley

    Is there a difference?

    • Replies: @GomezAdddams
  56. Z-man says:
    @Robert Dolan

    No, Cookie is right. The NEOCONS/Military Industrial Complex/Christian Zionists/MSM have to be put on a tight leash and the American people have to wise up.

    • Agree: Realist, JR Foley
    • Thanks: GMC
    • Replies: @c matt
  57. MarkNiet says:

    “We want to remind you that Russia has never attacked anyone throughout its history.” Dmitri Peskov, Kremlin spokesman
    Because Hitler didn’t allow that to happen.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
  58. Z-man says:

    The Russians and Putin have to be patient. The Donbas can be had in its entirety without a shot being fired. The ‘psyops’ have to be turned against the CABAL. It might be a Herculean task, but that’s what it’ll take.

    • Agree: JR Foley
  59. Wokechoke says:
    @MarkNiet

    No he precipitated a Soviet pretext to occupy Brandenberg and Saxony Anhalt instead. Did you miss the Cold War Iron Curtain…

  60. Robjil says:
    @Lee

    Short Memory – US invaded Ukraine on 2/22/14. The 8th anniversary of the US take over Ukraine is 2/22/22.

    Crimea voted to go back to Russia. It was not an invasion. Crimeans did not want to be part of the US empire. Crimea was given as a friendship gift to Soviet Ukraine in 1954. The friendship ended on 2/22/14, so the gift went back home.

    Donbass also did not want to be part of the US empire. So it revolted. It was part of Russia until it was given to Soviet Ukraine in 1922.

    • Agree: GMC
    • Thanks: Sean, Catdompanj, Catdompanj
    • Replies: @Catdompanj
  61. Wokechoke says:

    Quite apart from the Entire domestic territory of the US being a fully colonial settlement founded on the land conquered from Injuns and internally colonised by the Northern states after that…ocean going possessions and a tacit supervision of South America. Wahtaboutism perhaps but Russia’s history is not like this and is not as aggressive.

  62. WJ says:
    @Quartermaster

    You have an inordinate interest in Russia and Ukraine while at the same time your home country (presumably) is falling apart more so on a daily basis. I am an American and it would be hard for me to care less about Ukraine or Russia when my Southern border is being invaded by millions of people we will regret not stopping.

    It’s fun for some conservatives dabble in foreign affairs considering that they mean nothing to Americans.

    • Replies: @Badger Down
  63. MLK says:

    History Points to the US as Perpetrator of Crisis in Ukraine

    This article title is correct. Though it should have included the word ‘manufactured’ before crisis.

    The salient question is why now? I won’t belabor what I have already in my previous comments. Suffice it to remind, there is nothing the foreign powers and domestic interests behind the “Biden” regime won’t gift to in return for keeping the illegitimate “Biden” regime in place.

    No sovereign is cute and cuddly. You’re doing better than most if you soberly assess whether they are able to effect their interests and objectives under the totality of the geopolitical circumstances.

    The last three decades is such a Sad Story for the US, there is no price those responsible won’t pay to cover their tracks.

    A weak, infiltrated, compromised and illegitimate US administration is a slot machine to be lovingly maintained so the jackpots keep coming. Could anyone have imagined a worse moment for the USG to renegotiate the end of the Cold War settlement?

    Just as, despite the election steal, the US would be doing fine if Biden’s handlers kept him in his basement, leaving everything Trump put in place, George Kennan spelled out what the US should and shouldn’t do when the US dog caught the Soviet mail truck.

    Even none-too-bright middle schoolers thought we should drive Russia into a strategic alliance with China or execute a messy, expensive and dangerous plan for energy to flow directly from Russia to Germany.

    The level of coordination by all concerned is a sight to behold. A manufactured crisis followed by a Putin-Biden summit in which all the US gets is Biden appearing the peacemaker for domestic consumption.

    Are you starting to figure out why anyone who is anybody, foreign and domestic, went to by any means necessary, in furtherance of Trump Must Go!

  64. Realist says:

    Great article Mike.

  65. Miro23 says:
    @Justrambling

    A notable absence and crucial actor in the very scary scenarios depicted in this piece is the real puppeteer behind most, if not all, of America’s foreign policy initiatives – Israel. Consider the “flustering… din” created by the MSM without the hand of Israel firster Jews in total control of media narratives – and Hollywood. Consider the infiltration of key posts in any American administration by these welfare parasites of American tax dollars and a clearer, more comprehensive picture emerges.

    I’m not sure about that. Agreed that the MSM is run by Israel firster Jews, but that doesn’t automatically mean that they get reciprocal love from Israel.

    It’s not too difficult to see that neocon led USA is in big trouble, and that it’s losing its Imperial grip. Also the Israelis haven’t got any problems with Putin (he received a big welcome when he visited Israel) and they’re doing deals with the Chinese despite complaints and begging them not to (for example from ex CIA director, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo).

    Israel seems to be joining plenty of other places in getting away from this sinking ship.

    • Replies: @Justrambling
  66. Sean says:

    President Yeltsin and his circle thought Islamic extremism was the common European enemy (helped by the war in Chechnya), they kept asking if Russia could join Nato and were fobbed off. In his first years as President (around 2001) Putin actually tried to join Nato and was told Russia would have to go through channels with the application being subject to certain criteria. Nato activated Clause 5 at the time of 9/11 and Putin immediately asked the US how Russia could help the US fight against Jihadi terrorists.

    In 2008 at the insistence of the US under Bush, Nato announced that Georgia and Ukraine would become members. No uncertain outcome after a rigmarole process for Ukraine–it was just announced they would be joining. Likewise Georgia. But Russia got the bum’s rush. By 2008 Putin understood very clearly that Nato is an implacably anti Russia alliance, and aided by rising oil prices he built up Russia conventional forces. Ukraine was chose to side with Nato, so Putin is going to try and make Ukraine militarily neutral, or cease to exist.

  67. MLK says:

    Here’s what I mean by a do-over.

    The last thirty years could not possibly have been worse for the US. Focusing geopolitically, it’s ranged from weaker to utterly disastrous vis-à-vis every other power, great and not so great.

    Nor is the collapse over yet because there is close coordination between all the relevant parties, including the illegitimate Biden regime, to destroy the US so that our period of national humiliation is closer to China’s century than Russia’s decade or so.

    You’re not thinking hard enough if you think that Russia and China proposing a UN-centric security structure is anything but exactly what the ruling and governing classes behind the “Biden” regime want.

    Give the devils their due, after so thoroughly removing trade as a subject within the province of of the American people with a Constitutional Republic, they’re going for the whole shebang. Replacing it with “our democracy,” shorn of the Constitutional and Bill of Rights (which Obama called just “an old piece of parchment), consigning the American people and nation to at best as much sovereignty as the Chinese have under the CCP.

    The least worse outcome of this contrived crisis is that the US and NATO pull out of Ukraine, Minsk II is finally implemented, and Russia/Germany get Nord Stream II, all in return for nothing in the national interest. Just some PR for internal consumption for the Democrats, RINOs and Neocon filth to try to mitigate what is coming from Trump/MAGA.

  68. The United States is nothing more than an oversized Israel at war with all its neighbors. And for good reason since the same people run both countries.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
  69. One-off says:
    @Flying Dutchman

    I will allow Putin may not appreciate the full extent of the Empire’s madness, and that elements of D.C. may be ready to take everyone out with them via a nuclear war. But I also watched the American response to Covid, and cannot but help believe the same people wearing face coverings as a religious sacrament probably are fearful enough to push back. This assumes some of the policymakers are in the Covid fear porn camp and could scuttle the plan, which may not be the case. As an aside, you are correct that Neocons are delusional enough to think Putin might surrender rather than turn their neighborhoods into glass.

    Regardless, the United States is closer to nuclear annihilation than any time other than perhaps Andropov’s brief and ultimately fatal flirtation with the notion of a first strike.

    • Replies: @Flying Dutchman
  70. @matzahballsgonewrong

    So you provide no rebuttals and no arguments to the FACTS that Mike Whitney has presented, but only your emotional outburst. Is your hair on fire too?

  71. MLK says:

    Everybody gets something when you’re playing bingo!

    It finally dawned on me that we can’t understand Justin’s self-destruction (with help) in Canada without remembering that Chrystia Freeland is his deputy and has been driving the bus.

    Her grandfather was a prominent Ukrainian Nazi and Chrystia has long been a favorite of the successors to them, Davos and lovable George Soros.

    How to keep all of that filth on team as their Ukraine project is wound down — sail Justin’s ship and give his chair to Chrystia.

    You can’t always get what you want, but sometimes you get what you need.

    • Replies: @Johnny Smoggins
  72. Bro43rd says:
    @Humbert Humbert

    Out of auto-comments

    Now thats lol funny, TY!

  73. @Fred777

    Washington Post likes Lia –CIA prefers Thomas and CNN puts it together as —-Lia Thomas –a heart-throb.

  74. padre says:
    @Jefferson Temple

    That was the USSR, not Russia!

    • Replies: @Jefferson Temple
  75. @Sean

    You cite the Telegraph? It is simply another aspect of the Rottenchild control nexus over the Sceptred Isle. Ukrainian “sovereignty” was totally violated by Viccious Nudelman, the U\$\$A Department of \$tate and Little Georgie of Our \$orrow\$. The legitimate, elected government was overthrown in a violent coup d’ etat by the above-mentioned meddlers.

    The current regime in Kiev is a gawd-awful amalgam of Khazarian and Galician revanchists who hate the common Ukrainian people and detest Russia.

    Sean, your mentality is either that of a very well paid operative or an imbiber in the blather spewed by the talking heads on boobtoob nitely noose.

    • Replies: @Sean
  76. Anonymous[995] • Disclaimer says:

    Good piece. One obvious correction:

    Under Stalin Russia did invade Poland in 1939.

    Perhaps better to say invasions post WWII.

  77. @Robert Dolan

    It’s not just a dozen crazies in D.C. think tanks.

    Only the Jewish Establishment and the Global Jewish Nation have the breadth & depth of institutional penetration globally to pull off scams like 9/11, “Global Warming”, Covid Reset, Kalergi Replacement and the ongoing aggression using Ukraine.

    The Jews are waging a war of aggression against the White Christian world.

  78. Agree completely with Whitney, and would add that the ZUS was the perpetrator in the destruction of the middle east with the Israeli and traitors at the highest levels in the ZUS government in their attack on the WTC on 911.

    Zionists are in control of the ZUS government and have been since 1913 when they saddled America with their privately owned FED, which by the way is unconstitutional and is the root of every foreign war that the ZUS has been involved in, and the FED needs to be abolished.

    • Agree: Notsofast
  79. @Been_there_done_that

    When the USSR broke up, diplomatic representatives of the U\$\$A promised that NATO would not expand into either the former Soviet Bloc nations of east-central Europe or into the former SSRs, Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia. Broken promises and false premises appear to be the basis for your contentions.

    In the Yalta and Potsdam conferences in 1945, FDR agreed that a portion of East Prussia would be given over to Stalin. Now, I’m all for re-redrawing the borders of the nations scrambled up after both the world wars; but when the victors establish new national boundaries they are merely compounding the errors previously made by essentially all of the warring parties.

    Why pick on Russia, while the U\$\$A and Perfidious Albion are at least as guilty in not only messing up the national borders as well as the forcible relocation of peoples who had lived on their lands for centuries? Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

    Your obsession with that slice of Ost Preussen strikes me that you may be either a Pole or of Polish descent. Perhaps a direct descendant of Smigly Ridz?

    • Agree: Agent76
  80. HdC says:
    @Quartermaster

    Shouting (capitalizing) your assertion doesn’t make it a fact.
    Here is an easy way to distinguish between the two political/economic systems:

    Everything that the communists (remember it is a Jewish invention) have tried/done/attempted in the human, political, judicial, or economic sphere, has turned that sphere into garbage. Bar none.

    The National Socialists did their best to improve their country and their citizens’ standard of living. This they achieved with great speed and to a very large measure. Many of the measures implemented are still in use today:
    Autobahn/superhighways,
    Volkswagen or the people’s car, more popular then ever,
    Worker’s Council, whereby the employees have direct representation on their employer’s board of directors. One of the reasons why labour trikes are relatively rare in Germany.
    There are numerous others, but these will suffice to illustrate.

    Finally, the Germans battled valiantly to keep the murderous Soviet Union from invading Europe.
    Had the communists been successful in their attempt, I’d venture my opinion that we all would be living (barely existing?) under communism, and speaking Russian.

    But, as we used to say in my business of heavy engineering: No good deed goes unpunished.

    It is ironic, though, that all the WW II victorious countries, including my beloved Canada, are being rapidly turned into cesspools. There must be a moral here, somewhere.

    • Replies: @Badger Down
  81. @padre

    Oh yeah, well the real USA was a Jeffersonian republic so really none of the stuff that happened over the past 150 years really counts because it’s not the “real” US, so nyah, nyah, nyah.

    Gimme a break.

  82. @Anonymous

    Good news indeed. Anti-aircraft defenses for Hezbollah that Israel deems a “poke in the eye”, are undoubtedly part of the “military-technical” measures Russia has taken since the US rejected its security proposals. These are happening in Syria as well, near Syria’s Israeli-occupied Golan and at Latakia Port, denying Israeli airstrikes. I expect the Syrian army will soon evict the US looters from its oil fields as well, with Russian assistance.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  83. @Humbert Humbert

    Rebuttals and arguments? No sir, no one should waste their time on idiots like Whitney. Putin’s going to be declared an “armed and extremely dangerous terrorist” and be dealt with the same way as Bin Laden.

    • Troll: Bro43rd
    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Avery
    , @Avery
  84. HdC says:
    @Wokechoke

    Germany was not a war machine!
    The National Socialists were pre-occupied with improving the standard of living of the working class. Most of the German economy was utilized in to order achieve this.
    A true war economy was not begun until 1943 or so.

    A thought about the so-called German Empire, as mentioned in an earlier thread, above.
    Germany never was an empire in the sense that Britain or Russia were, or the USA is attempting to be.

    That term comes from the existence, for over 1000 years I think, of The Holy Roman Empire of the German Nations. In the early 1800’s this consisted of 300! individual political entities such as cities, kingdoms, principalities. I own a book on Political Geography published at that time, from which I cite this.

    That was he German Empire.

    After the Franco-Prussian War it proved advantageous and timely in 1871, to combine this loose federation into a unified nation in order to resist the incessant French invasions more effectively.

    Over the previous 400 years the French had invaded German territory 40 times.

    • Agree: annamaria
  85. Agent76 says:

    Apr 16, 2021 Ready for nuclear holocaust with Russia over Ukraine?

    Are we prepared to see our loved ones burn alive in a nuclear holocaust in a war with Russia over Ukraine? If not, cut out the macho saber rattling and deescalate before it’s too late.

    Feb 21, 2020 Putin unleashes on Global Banks

    Who do the Ukrainian elites serve? The banks that keep their money, of course…

  86. HdC says:
    @Robert Dolan

    So who enabled those worthies???
    Your “arch enemy” A. Hitler tried to warn you. Your pres. Roosevelt called him “Uncle Joe”. Now his ideological descendants are turning the western world into cesspools. Karma is a bitch.

  87. @idealogus

    Ukraine should be as neutral as Finland or Switzerland to avoid an atomic war.

    “Next time just run and hide in the chicken coop!” said the sheriff to the victim of armed robbery, “’cause, ye know, they might use a dirty bomb on you!”

    • Troll: Bro43rd
    • Replies: @annamaria
  88. Agent76 says:
    @emerging majority

    This covers some information related with your post Emerging.

    Nov 29, 2016 The Map That Shows Why Russia Fears War With USA

  89. Polymath says:

    Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Georgia, Ukraine all in living memory

    You can blame all but the last two on “Soviet Union not Russia” but I doubt that the people in those countries who still remember the tanks think that’s particularly important.

    • Replies: @Lee
  90. The American people don’t want any more jew wars.

    Over and over I hear the same comment that, “Why should we care about Ukraine’s border when our own border is wide open?”

    The jews have overplayed their hand.

    Our people are brainwashed and gullible, but there is a limit to everything…..it’s just that the small hats are unable to recognize it.

    • Agree: annamaria
  91. How does Putin escape the trap that has been set for him?

    Putin has called the Russian Security Council together (today) to decide whether or not to “recognize the sovereignty” of the eastern part of Ukraine called the Donbass. (which is occupied almost exclusively by ethnic Russians) http://thesaker.is/putin-holds-meeting-with-security-council-tape/

    If Putin agrees to allow the Donbass to reunite with Russia, then Russia will have to defend it against the 60,000 troops in the Ukrainian army that have surrounded the area and are currently shelling it with artillery fire.

    As soon as Russian troops cross the border into Ukraine (to defend the ethnic Russians), the media will scream “Invasion” and all of Europe will fall in line behind US-NATO…

    Nord Stream will be cancelled, and Washington will have achieved its goal.

    How does Putin escape this trap?

  92. martin_2 says:

    Surely if, according to the liberal establishment, black criminality and dysfunction in 2022 must be understood as the legacy of slavery, something that ended one hundred and fifty years ago, then the present, risk averse, actions and threats coming from the Russian leadership must likewise be understood as the inevitable consequence of the suffering of the Russian people during the Second World War, something that happpened a mere 80 years ago.

    • Thanks: Bro43rd
  93. HT says:

    His premise will sound attractive to some, but it is completely lacking in defining who and what the real problem is.

  94. Anonymous[283] • Disclaimer says:

    Poland, Finland, Hungary and let’s not forget about Soviet subversion across the world.

  95. TRex says:
    @Jefferson Temple

    The Soviet Union (Russia) did invade other countries notably Afghanistan (1979), Hungary (1956), Czechoslovakia (1968).

    • Replies: @Quartermaster
  96. Robinski says:

    Russian history begins with the Kievan Rus. In order to expand beyond the immediate area of Kyiv, there had to be some sort of “attack”, whether it be of the military or arm-twisting variety. Getting to the Pacific Ocean from Moscow and Kyiv included subduing the natives, demanding attacks of many varieties. If you read Victor Suvorov’s books, you’ll know that Stalin was preparing for an offensive war against Germany. To say that Russia never attacked anyone is as willfully blind as saying America was unpopulated before Europeans or Palestine was an empty land before Israelis.

    • Replies: @Badger Down
    , @annamaria
  97. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mike Whitney

    How does Moscow escape the War Party’s trap ?

    Easy – by sticking to the Minsk accord solution like Moscow has for last 7 years. Berlin, Paris, and Kiev have all signed onto the Minsk accords. How to implement the Minsk Accords is being discussed in the so-called Normandie Format talks. I believe another round is scheduled for Thursday.

    The War Party in Washington is discrediting themselves by their silly lies. Most of the Euros have already told the War Party to stuff it.

    If Washington keeps pushing its ear to destabilize Europe; Macron and Scholz might pull another DeGaulle and pull out of NATOs bureaucracy. Most of the rest of Europe would follow suit.

    Macron is mighty upset about getting backstabbed on the Aussie Sub deal. Scholz is shocked that Biden thinks he can dictate when NS2 opens.

  98. @Wokechoke

    But, it was. The main movers and shakers were Russian, and after Stalin, Russians took over again, and dominated the regime until its end. It was exceedingly rare for anyone to reach high rank in the party or military unless they were great Russian.

    Khrushchev was Mallorussian, not Ukrainian.

  99. @JR Foley

    Such ignorance you demonstrate.

    • Replies: @JR Foley
  100. @JohnnyRVF

    A Putinist troll wants to accuse someone of being a troll. How droll.

  101. anonymous[345] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cookie

    When I entered my first year of community college I was puzzle why the USA and Canada under a common colonial regime had striking different political/Historical development. I believed that Canada did not have a bloody war for independence from UK, and they settled the slavery issue without a Civil War. Often times my relatives that chose to keep moving North and stayed in Canada they tell/brag about the great sense of PEACE,order tolerance in Canada. I wanted to find out personally so I traveled to Vancouver Canada. I was awestruck the beauty, cleanliness, security of the City. This current Trudeau violence is completely Historically UNprecedented in Canada. Never in Canadian History pre/post colonial had ever taken place such horrible repression, violence…Canadas teh most peaceful country on earrth is now the ONLY country under Martial Law in open warfare with its own populations.

    • Replies: @HdC
  102. @Mike Whitney

    Putin set the trap for himself –
    he should have annexed all of Noworossija (and liberated Transdnjistr)
    in 2014 before Cookie Nudelman & Cie. had time to marinate the “West” in
    their shameless lies (holy crap – that I should live to side with Russia over that
    area! Verily, this world is not for long 😀 ).
    All would be over by now; instead he tried to deescalate (which would have worked
    with Hitler (pbuh), but not with the Evil Ones) and now there is no way of quickly
    getting off the back foot.

    (What I do not quite get are the Ukies themselves – how stupid do you have to be
    to let yourself be used by the murderers of your people?).

  103. @JWalters

    The American people are unaware

    Agree your analysis ref Rothschild/Square Mile etc manipulating USA, which is basically a colony to them. It is a willing colony it seems to me, with your super-corrupt politicians and your laughable fairytale media, staffed by Americans.
    USA is less than 250 years old and is now pretty-much a basket case; massive natural advantages have been squandered in favour of your acting as the global Mad Dog.

    So the deeper question, and I ask with respect, is WHY are Americans so effing stupid that they cannot see this picture ? It surely cannot be that all/most Americans are obese morally-depraved imbeciles, as many round the world perceive them ?
    What about your American “christian” churches for example.
    Where is their moral leadership ?
    I have met Americans in USA who cannot identify some of your own States, who seem to know nothing about anything past the superbowl. Your country is in danger of total collapse and your citizens post on here to quibble abt Dems, MAGA and other bullshit, divert and do anything but say words like, you know, maybe we do have a problem.

    It is not the fault of the world that Americans are so stupid, corrupt, juvenile, ignorant and morally depraved (with apologies to those who are not).

  104. @MLK

    Her grandfather was a prominent Ukrainian Nazi and Chrystia has long been a favorite of the successors to them, Davos and lovable George Soros.

    Funny how “Nazis” like Soros and Freeland seem to always do things that benefit Jewish interests and Israel.

    I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find out that Freeland is as Jewish as Soros.

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
  105. One-off says:
    @Mike Whitney

    I’ll take a stab at it.

    Putin will declare Donbas/Donetsk to be autonomous zones similar to Kosovo. He will not invade, Putin will claim, unless the Ukraine attacks either region. As the United States did with Kosovo, Russia will gradually ensure the independence of the Ukraine even if the state is not realized at the United Nations.

    Sanctions still will be imposed, albeit smaller ones than with an outright invasion. I suspect Germany has greenlighted this approach as the maximum allowed to keep Nord Stream Two viable. It would be nice if we still had actual media to see if this in fact is what is happening.

    Will it work? Dunno.

    • Replies: @One-off
  106. @emerging majority

    …promised that NATO would not expand…

    This is a blatant propaganda lie that has been exposed as such. Even if it were true, it would have been superseded by the 1997 Paris treaty between NATO and Russia.

    “...Potsdam conferences in 1945, FDR agreed that a portion of East Prussia would be given over to Stalin.

    For the purpose of temporary administration. Annexation would have contradicted the basic principles of the United Nations, which at that time had already constituted itself.

    Your obsession with that slice of Ost Preussen…

    It is not an obsession but a recognition that this has been at the heart of the conflict between NATO and Russia, though many are in denial about it. Russia’s failure to withdraw from this illegally occupied territory motivated the further expansion of NATO.

    Without conclusively resolving this lingering issue the Cold War will continue. I addressed the legal issue on this question in a different thread at this site eight days ago:

    https://www.unz.com/article/the-ukraine-crisis-facts-versus-lies/#comment-5173423

  107. @Johnny Smoggins

    That´s trivial, and a major reason I despise the bandying about of terms like
    “fascist” (if you´re antifa I at least have some idea what you mean) or
    “Nazi” (always obfuscation). Remember that to the (((opposition)))
    language is a weapon, and clarity of thought is their enemy.

    • Replies: @MLK
  108. Anonymous[371] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cookie

    ¡A la mierda Joe Biden!

    • Replies: @anonymous
  109. One-off says:
    @One-off

    *gradually ensure the independence of Donbas

  110. Bookish1 says:

    All Putin has to do is not invade Eukraine. He can threaten it for months on end and not invade and he wins.

  111. Oh please! Bolding and italicizing is not “shouting.” Frankly, I could not care less about your ignorance. I stated facts, facts you Putinist shills have serious difficulties with. Too bad for you.

  112. @JR Foley

    You described Putin to a “T” with that quote. I also grant it describes Biden to a “T.” Too bad they can’t both lose.

  113. @julio besser

    Not going to happen. Russia does not have the financial ability, and rapidly losing the demographic battle. In 10 years, Russia may not even be able to man an Army.

    • Replies: @JR Foley
  114. @Arthur MacBride

    Some years ago, while scouting the internet, I came upon a 1906 state of Kansas graduation test for 8th-graders—as rather few Americans at that time attended high-school. Scanning through the questions, I determined that I might just barely pass it, or maybe achieve a solid “C” on the “F” through A” scale.

    It was my take at the time that the average American PHD would have even more difficulty in surmounting that pinnacle than even myself, as advanced degrees in the U\$ are awarded on the basis of specialization in their chosen discipline.

    At roughly the same time period, two educationists who then ran the college of education for Columbia University, John Dewey and James Bryant Conant, determined along the lines of “no use in teaching these people the classics or any serious subjects, as we mainly need them to toil in our factories and farms.” Funded heavily by the prime Robber Baron, John Davison Rockefeller, the Columbia school of education became the central nexus for the educationist industry in America as it was essentially the first major school of education in the still young nation.

    Nowadays, middle schools (aka junior high schools) are the great wasteland, educationally as those hormone-laden age-group youngsters are still ensconced in CO-EDUCATIONAL classrooms. Upshot of this is that very little attention to such minuscule instruction as is offered, as the boys are practically bouncing out of their seats, scoping out the girls, who themselves are primped-up before leaving for school in the morning and virtually reeking of feminine pheromones.

    High school–so called–is chockablock with sports programming, assemblies and proms, leaving little time for the pretended education propounded by instructors who, on average, barely manage to achieve I.Q. levels reaching, perhaps, 110. Devolution reigns supreme—by POLICY imposed by the Department of Education in the Di\$trict of Corruption, making sure that their charges remain stupefied and sterilized intellectually and absolutely driven away from any possibility of critical thinking or independent creativity.

    This devolutionary trend, which has been accelerating for more than a century, has become the planned project of highest finance capital and their various minions and willing gophers.

    Yet, though educationally half-starved and politically unsophisticated, much of rural and small-town America still retains residual tendrils of common sense. If there is any hope for this nation, it is not to be found among primarily coastal urban elites, as their value systems are mostly centered on going along to get along, as bell-cows for the herd in its great stampede into the WEF’s Great-Reset.

    • Replies: @S
    , @JWalters
  115. Question 18 : Which of these two nations declared 100 million of their population “white Supremacists “ and domestic terrorists – the greatest threat facing their country from within”?

    1) Russia

    2) USA

    • Thanks: Kolya Krassotkin
  116. It seems leaders in Donbass region, which is being indiscriminately shelled by the heroic west’s Jewish puppet president in Kiev, have appealed to Russia.

    Pres. Putin is set to recognise both breakaway regions as independent States.

    This will have the Dementia patient chewing the rug again …

    https://www.rt.com/russia/550143-putin-announce-decision-donbass/

    Meanwhile in Lugansk (rather like HK riots for “democracy”)

    https://www.rt.com/russia/550162-ukraine-lugansk-explosion/

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  117. @Been_there_done_that

    “blatant propaganda”—exposed by precisely whom? Please source your information on the 1997 Paris “treaty”.

    The United Nations, eh? So how was it that one nation among those which constituted the Big Five, Nationalist China, was given the boot and replaced on the SECURITY COUNCIL, no less by Mao’s murder-state? Who cut the deal setting up the Nixon/Mao confab? None other than Heinrich Kissinger, the prime minion for the Rottenfeller Crime Clan in full coordination with the Rottenchild Crime Clan.

    How could it have been that one of the five primary world powers which formed the basis for the UN, could have been kicked out of the Security Council, over which it held veto powers? Did someone from \$tate give the Nationalists a little talking-to that the U\$\$A would no longer guarantee the security of Taiwan?

    Another part of the deal made by Nixon and Mao hinged on Nixon’s ownership by the aforementioned Rottenfeller Crime Clan and all its sleazy associations such as the Council of Foreign Relations, a subsidiary of Chatham House, on behalf of City of London, the shotcaller for the ruling financial elite. What was set-up in that meeting was the eventual arrangement to de-industrialize America and to build up Mao’s regime into what is now Xi Jin Ping’s economic powerhouse.

    I’m afraid that you have dived in waaay over your head in our confrontation, as you most evidentially appear to have little if any understanding of the meta level of geopolitical reality. Your apprehension of history—and not the one provided by stenographers writing on behalf of the victors– appears to be rather shabby and shopworn.

    Legal/schmegal: International law has been violated so many times by the governing pro\$titicians in the di\$trict of corruption, that it would take me the rest of the afternoon to fill this thread with the countless violations of national sovereignties by the WEF’s primary pitbull attack-dog the U\$\$A military.

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  118. Fred777 says:
    @Mike Whitney

    “How does Putin escape this trap?”

    By telling the Americans they are lucky he didn’t take the entire Ukraine

  119. @Arthur MacBride

    Meanwhile the US senate tries to keep the fire going.

    the Senate “commends the courage, resolve, and restraint shown by the Ukrainian people in their pursuit of sovereignty and democracy, and pays tribute to the many men and women who gave their lives in pursuit of a free and democratic Ukraine.”

    The document also “reaffirms unwavering US support for a secure, democratic, and independent Ukraine, free to choose its own leaders and future.”

    Do those bought-and-paid-for arseholes imagine anyone anywhere outside of Tel Aviv has even the slightest amount of respect for them ?

    https://www.rt.com/russia/549866-us-passes-ukraine-support/

  120. @One-off

    But I also watched the American response to Covid, and cannot but help believe the same people wearing face coverings as a religious sacrament probably are fearful enough to push back.

    I think that far more elemental than any proximate fear, those who became Covidian wingnuts were desperate to channel their massive free-floating fears over looming economic, social and ecological collapse into their extreme authoritarian cult of the state and scientism, all boiling down to total abject obedience, which they religiously believe will make everything work out all right.

    If they were willing to destroy the bodies, minds and souls of their own children as a state-ordered sacrifice to the Covidian gods, they’ll meekly, obediently, enthusiastically follow the government into a nuclear firestorm.

    • Replies: @One-off
  121. @Ghali

    True. Question 2 “Far-right Neo-Nazis in Ukraine (Ukrainian Security Services, Azov Special Operations Detachment) is also not accurate.
    In a situation where (((Victoria Nuland))) conspires to put (((Yats))) in charge after the coup, and a government that has been riddled with the (((tribe))) since 2014 and now has a Jewish president, I`m supposed to believe “Nazis”, neo or otherwise, are working with the (((tribe))).
    They want it back.

    • Agree: nokangaroos, Petermx
  122. @Mike Whitney

    Putin makes a very important historical statement following the Russian Security Council meeting on Donbass recognition:

    Very enlightening and loaded with facts for anyone interested in truth:

    Congratulations to Russia and its peoples (and to Americans interested in truth).

  123. @Mike Whitney

    How does Putin escape this trap?

    I keep being told Germany and Europe need Nordstream and Russia does not. So unless Putin’s too weak to be able to forego things that are just wants but not needs, I don’t see how he’s in the trap.

    As for what the western imperial media will say, it’s incomprehensible to me how anyone in Russia still could be so craven (or stupid) as to still be worrying about that. Anyone sentient knows the media ALWAYS will lie and spin the worst. If the Russians still haven’t learned that this is an indelible fact of current reality, they have worse problems than I thought.

    • Replies: @Kurt Knispel
  124. @Arthur MacBride

    What about your American “christian” churches for example.
    Where is their moral leadership ?

    The establishment churches in lockstep, evidently by prior plan, carried out the great apostasy immediately upon government command in 2020. The bad shepherds shackled the doors to the sheepfold and dispersed the flocks to hunker down each alone and wait for perdition. As one they revealed their real allegiance is to Satan and not Christ.

    Of course the great majority of the “Christian” sheep were happy to obey.

    • Replies: @JWalters
  125. @Mevashir

    A kind of associate NATO membership was created under the “Partnership For Peace.” Russia was invited, but Yeltsin turned it down, as I recall. Ukraine joined.

    Putin knows the purpose of NATO was two fold: 1. Sit on Fritz, and 2. keep Russia out.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  126. anonymous[345] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    The current Crisis in UCRAINE once again has proven the TRUMP THESIS CORRECT…The primacy of American INTERESTS and PEACEFUL coexistance with RUSSIA..(China).

  127. @Mike Whitney

    Saker is a misinformed clown that simply takes anything Putin spews as gospel. So far, his record is quite poor on Ukraine.

    By the by, until the Russian invasion, less than half the population of Donbas was ethnic Russian. The morons running to the two Russian statelets have been expelling Ukrainians as they did in Crimea.

    There are no massacres occurring in the Donbas unless Russia is perpetrating them. The longer Putin hasn’t gotten his way, the more shrill his screaming becomes. Anyone paying attention to him is a fool. He’s a liar and the truth is far from from him.

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  128. HdC says:
    @anonymous

    Not entirely true.
    In the early 1900’s a bitter labour strike was brutally suppressed by the police in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. A number of the strikers were killed.

    Then we had the Toronto Revolution. These revolutionaries assembled on Yonge Street near Lake Ontario, and marched north.

    When the revolutionaries found the first open public house (pub or bar), they went in and partook of that establishment’s offerings.

    And that was the end of that revolution.

    The foregoing is from memory from my Canadian History class many, many, years ago.

    Agreed that Canada is a very pleasant, peaceful, beautiful, decent country, having many individual freedoms. Just don’t step on the toes of those that must remain nameless.

    As we say in Ontario, the Process is the Punishment, should you run afoul of the powers-that-be.

  129. @TRex

    I lived in Germany during Prague Spring. Brezhnev created a PR nightmare of the USSR, and it haunted him to his death.

  130. @emerging majority

    Please source your information on the 1997 Paris “treaty”.

    You’re obviously too lazy to do any basic research, yet to avoid acknowledging the established facts you prefer instead to rant incoherently about your personal “meta level” perspective, which appears to condone violations of international law or treaties if adhering to them would fall outside this meta world. I provided a link to the official text of that 1997 treaty earlier this month. Go find it if you’re interested.

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  131. anonymous[345] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jefferson Temple

    Checoslovakia 1968? Afghanistan 1980s? Putin has OUTsmarted the stupid mad NEOcons in Crimea/Syria/China/ and now even closer to America in Venezuela/Nicaragua/Cuba..???

    • Replies: @Jefferson Temple
  132. gte757n says: • Website

    Wasn’t the Ukraine’s current President installed by the USA ? ?

    President Putin just announced that he will recognize two break-away republics in the Ukraine – –

    “..I deem it necessary to make a decision that should have been made a long time ago – to immediately recognize the independence and sovereignty of the Donetsk People’s Republic and the Lugansk People’s Republic..” Putin said in a televised address.

    From there, it’s just one small step for Russia to treat the entire Ukraine the same way the USA treats its Protectorates and Territories.

    Sauce for the goose…

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  133. @Flying Dutchman

    In the linked Putin speech (132.) Putin assumes that “the West” will sanction no matter what;
    It implies the continuing boykott of Nord Stream 2.

  134. I have to say that is one sweet Hitleresque pose Creepy Uncle Joey can break out. Dig it:

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  135. One-off says:
    @Flying Dutchman

    “If they were willing to destroy the bodies, minds and souls of their own children…”

    Their own bodies, though? Not so much. As well as being narcissists, these folks are sociopaths; their children are ornaments either ignored or used to virtue signal. If this even threatens to go nuclear (and these self-absorbed pigs are able to get that information), the resulting whig-out will be something to behold. But/for the nuclear threat to themselves, those inside the Imperial Capitol would be going full steam ahead. Same mindset at play as the NPC parents they manipulate at will.

  136. MLK says:
    @nokangaroos

    Yes, it’s best to judge people by their actions not their words.

    Soros used to love telling the story about how delighted he was as a boy to confiscate the property of Jews with his Nazi friend.

  137. @anonymous

    The world has gotten tired of American bossing everyone around. Not sure they’ll be happy in the long run if Russia or China is doing the bossing around but they probably aren’t thinking about it that way.

    What crazy American warheads need to realize is that if those two separatist regions of Ukraine want to secede, the best thing is just LET THEM. Who cares? But the warheads, as usual, don’t care what’s best for everyone.

    • Troll: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
    , @Mevashir
  138. @Veteran Aryan

    Biden is not Hitlerian in any sense.

    Biden speaks gibberish…..he’s a clown…..he does what the jews tell him to do.

    • Replies: @Veteran Aryan
  139. grr says:
    @Jefferson Temple

    That was the USSR, a completely different animal. Bolsheviks and their successors, who belonged to a certain tribe.

  140. grr says:
    @Quartermaster

    Qrtrmaster is an obvious NATO/Zionist troll. And not very effective as it is so obvious.

    • Agree: Bro43rd
  141. Sepp says:
    @Seraphim

    After the Molotov/Ribbentrop pact of August 1939, Romania invaded Russia and stole Bessarabia. Right. And Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland and Finland too.

    Some communists simply can’t stop carrying water for Stalin even after all the millions he murdered. Seraphim is one of them.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  142. @Jefferson Temple

    Your outlook is that of a simple minded cretin.

    The American people have zero say as to what their jewish led government does.

    • Replies: @Jefferson Temple
  143. @Jefferson Temple

    Well said. Mike has written a very convincing summary in the context of the current crisis. However his enthusiasm has resulted in this very dangerous statement which is counterproductive.

    “Russia has never attacked anyone in its history.”

    Out of Mathematics it is very difficult to prove a statement that includes the words “always” and “never.” 🙂 .

    A slightly weaker statement would be as effective. After all Russia has conquered vast swaths of territory in the seventeen and eighteen centuries and the actions of the Russian fur traders were not not always pious. The occupation of the Aleutians has been documented and both the Russians and later the US were viewed as invaders and oppressors (Ilarion Merculieff). The same applies to other North-Atlantic countries who colonized the world in the 1500’s and later.

    The period of conquests should now be considered closed, but it looks like the US still sees the globe as an empty space for them to own.

  144. Cookie says:
    @JWalters

    We are lied to in some way or another, some of us take the effort to look at the claims of the whore media, reseach the facts and come to our own conclusions.

    But most sit on there couches, eating cheesburgers, slurping high fructose drinks, pick a commentator they like and adopt their views and then sign-off their comments on blogs with their real name- dumbass!

    • Agree: Avery
    • Replies: @JWalters
  145. @Cookie

    The problem is the American people have never been able to keep their dogs on a chain, so they go around biting everyone.

    The problem is that America has never been invaded and occupied by a hostile power so they don’t understand why other people have an issue with it. Nothing wrong with America that a carpet bombing won’t cure.

    • Thanks: nokangaroos
    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
  146. @gte757n

    Excellent move! If Ukraine and the EU don’t like it they can get their entire gas supply from Russia cut off. And every other resource they buy from Russia. It’s about time Russia imposed sanctions on the West instead of getting blackmailed Itself with sanctions.

    • Replies: @Avery
  147. Mevashir says:
    @Quartermaster

    Thanks. My suggestions were sarcastic. I was on a bus today and the driver was listening to a rightwing radio jock denouncing Putin as a dangerous aggressor yada yada yada. I wanted to shove this article down his throat!

    Why not create an alternative NATO (North Arctic Treaty Organization) for Russia Canada and the USA. It could be called Son of NATO or NATOVITCH?!

  148. Mevashir says:
    @Jefferson Temple

    Americans don’t have a good record on permitting lawful secessions. Ever heard of the Civil War?

    • Replies: @Jefferson Temple
  149. @Robert Dolan

    The American people so far have not exercised their power over their government. There i fixed that for you.

    I think I told you before that this idea that the Jews are responsible for everything evil and we’re all powerless to defy them anyway has worn pretty thin. We the people do have the power, if and when we wake up to exercise it.

    In the meantime if you think Ukraine is any of our business, gear up, grab your rifle, and get on over there. For my part I’ve already deployed to the other side of the world on behalf of the banksters and war profiteers for the last fucking time.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
    , @sally
  150. Avery says:
    @Commentator Mike

    {Excellent move!}

    Agree wholeheartedly.

    {If Ukraine and the EU don’t like it they can get their entire gas supply from Russia cut off. }

    Disagree: Russia and Russian leaders don’t operate like the GloboReptiles of the West. Russia has NEVER cut off natural gas supplies for political reasons; only if the customer fails to pay. And only after giving the deadbeat customer (Ukraine) a lot of leeway. Ukraine has not paid and has stolen Russian gas transiting its territory. So Ukraine should be cut off. EU (Germany) is different matter. EU by itself is not Russia’s enemy. EU is under Anglo-American yoke: Russia does not want to antagonize EU (Germany). The idea is to gradually wrest Germany and France from under the Anglo-American GloboSorosista* jackboot. And you don’t do that by cutting off their livelihood. Russia can sit back and wait for Germans to decide for themselves if they want to be subservient to Anglo-American GloboSorosistas for another 100-200 years, or find their cojones and tell them to get out.

    __________________________________
    * an alien creature that has taken over the body and mind of genuine, traditional America.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  151. @Jefferson Temple

    “We the people do have the power, if and when we wake up to exercise it.”

    Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

    Tell that to the poor bastards sitting in jail since Jan.6th, 2021.

    • Agree: Avery, SafeNow, OilcanFloyd
    • Replies: @Jefferson Temple
  152. S says:
    @emerging majority

    Some years ago, while scouting the internet, I came upon a 1906 state of Kansas graduation test for 8th-graders—as rather few Americans at that time attended high-school.

    Point well taken. Some years back, I came across some school text books for middle schoolers (ie 12 and 13 year olds) from 1918, and it would easily have been college level material today.

  153. @Mevashir

    Everything changes. It’s time for a change.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  154. JB Smith says:

    I live in Canada. I’m now systematically considered as “less than” due to my vaccination status. The government has declared that I’m a terrorist for not supporting endless lockdowns and has threatened to take my children, kill my pets, and steal my bank account. My church has been harassed by the cops several times over the past 2 years.

    Frankly, I don’t give a damn. I’m definitely not supporting Canada/USA at this point. They don’t support me. I have nothing against Ukrainians or Russians – they are both European Christians and I wish no harm against the people on either side. I suspect in the long term, Ukraine will be better off under Russian control than us Westerners will be under Western control.

  155. annamaria says:
    @matzahballsgonewrong

    Whitney is a bright and decent man. As for your post, it does not impress with decency

    • Replies: @matzahballsgonewrong
  156. Mevashir says:
    @Jefferson Temple

    https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/bulletin-moscow-publishes-map-of-bomb-shelters-to-their-citizens
    This popped up on Rense. I’ve thought for a long time that I am willing to die in a nuclear attack if it will decapitate the evildoers who ride roughshod over ZOGDC.

  157. annamaria says:
    @matzahballsgonewrong

    You need to find and read a book or two about the history of Ukraine while paying attention to her peculiar geography.
    Currently, Ukraine suffers a Bankers war because the Financial Squid needs more blood and flesh. It wants desperately Russian resources for free.
    After the joint Kagan/Neonazi enterprise (regime change) in 2014 Ukraine has become the poorest and most corrupt state in Europe. The cherry on the top is the regularity of Neonazi parades in Kiev and Lwow.
    Symptomatically, Canada suffers fascist regime under the brainless puppet Trudy because the Financial Squid has been losing its omnipotence in western “democracies” and wants to re-establish a “discipline”. A la Operation Gladio.
    The US is eaten out, hollowed, and it stinks rot. But the FedReserve (privately owned) is fine.

  158. Lee says:
    @Polymath

    P said”

    Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Georgia, Ukraine all in living memory

    And beyond living memory please add Japan, China, and Mongolia to the list of countries that Russia invaded.

    • Agree: Mevashir
  159. Cookie says:

    I think Putin has just out-manoeuvred the U.S, by recognizing the independence of the separatist regions and calling for peacekeepers.

    All they need is China to agree to send peacekeepers and thats it, the West cannot ignore the status of the separatist regions.

  160. ‘History Points to the US as Perpetrator of Crisis in Ukraine’

    I do think our motive in all this has been to create a crisis. We could care less about the rights and wrongs of the situation.

    Our (or rather, our handlers) motive has been to distract us from the massive damage being done to our own country. It’s all got nothing to do with the Ukraine.

    • Agree: Wielgus
  161. sally says:
    @Jefferson Temple

    I cannot agree that Without the Jews, there would be no problem? The people have been kept in the dark and misled by non government third party corporations, NGOs, and certain politically powerful and or independently wealthy individuals. This situation is not limited to USA governed America, but is common to the people of most western NATO countries.

    The problem is not the government, not the Jews, but the controlled narrative propaganda; the mind control technology that government has allowed private parties to fund (disguised as advertising ), the filtration of content by the search engine enterprises, and the gate blocking control which denies those would otherwise respond, access to media.

    Thus technology, advertising<=because it funds the whole propaganda process, and access control at the gate have been allowed to shape the minds, thoughts and behaviors of westerners and the result has been that most western people are not aware of the NATO attempt to deny Russia. The situation is just not understood or known to most of those governed by western nation states.
    On 6:00pm news just now, not a word re signing by Putin of recognition of DPDR and LPR.

    from https://www.rt.com/russia/550170-putin-donbass-ukraine-speech/ i quote translated from Russian:

    "On Monday from Denis Pushilin and Leonid Pasechnik, the leaders of the DPR and LPR, calling for Moscow's backing for their independence. Putin chaired a televised meeting of the Russian Security Council to consider the request, in which he was urged by top officials to grant both regions recognition."

    As I understand it Putin did finally grant that request. Now What?

  162. @Mevashir

    I’d rather not. What will be, will be.

  163. @Felix Krull

    The problem is that America has never been invaded and occupied by a hostile power so they don’t understand why other people have an issue with it. Nothing wrong with America that a carpet bombing won’t cure.

    That’s not quite true. The South was invaded and occupied, and is still oppressed and dominated by the other regions. The South sends lots of young men to the military, but it is also home to some the most authentic anti-imperialist and isolationist sentiments in the nation. Unfortunately, there is no indigenous leadership in the region, and Washinhton is dead-set destroying the native demographics and culture through transplants and immigrants and an idiotic and dishonest culture war.

    • Agree: Lee
  164. Anonymous[307] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ko

    The post WW2 occupation of Eastern Europe was agreed to by Churchill and Roosevelt. And what the USSR occupied was previously taken over by the Nazis. The Soviets “liberated” them from the Nazis, so to speak, not attacked sovereign independent countries.

    The Soviets liberated Norway too, but withdrew as per the Yalta Agreement. Most people either forget or are not aware of Norway’s liberation by the Soviets.

    https://scorchedearthstories.wordpress.com/2014/10/28/scorched-earth-updates-king-of-norway-thanks-red-army-for-liberation-from-nazis-70-years-ago/

  165. @Robert Dolan

    Ok Captain Blackpill. Go sit on the toilet until the all clear sign sounds.

  166. @WJ

    The “Kagans” (“Victoria Nuland”) don’t care what Americans think. The US can dry up and blow away. They want the Ukraine.

  167. anonymous[363] • Disclaimer says:

    Now that Russia has decided to stop taking shit, maybe we should start expressing our preferences for what they should nuke. Russia might do us poor downtrodden US bastards a favor, and win our minds and hearts when the beltways loses this war and we bulldoze them into mass graves.

    So, your Excellencies: in your strategic nuclear planning we request that you strike the following, for optimal world improvement:

    The Capitol
    The White House
    Langley
    NSA
    DHS
    CDC
    FDC
    New York City
    FOP headquarters in Nashville
    Hollywood
    New Jersey
    CONUS south of the 42 parallel
    Vegas
    Ottawa
    Joy Behar’s house
    America
    New York City again
    Microsoft
    Florida
    The Shell Station on Lowell Road
    Chicago
    Harvard
    Epcot Center
    Starbucks (all of them if possible)
    Henry Karrer Middle School in Dublin, Ohio
    Atlanta
    The Grand Canyon (please make it even bigger)
    Manhattan
    that Paul Bunyan statue I saw once

  168. Not bad, but your articles on the Covid injections were more interesting and more horrifying. Is the pandemic over?

  169. @HdC

    victorious countries

    Wake up, Dude. The Jews started and won both world wars. Did you think Canada and USUK won?

    • LOL: Trinity
  170. @Mike Whitney

    Led by the usual suspects, the Chew Pork Slimes and the Jeff Bezos owned and CIA controlled Butt-WaPoo; American media is all-out in attempting to cast the blame on their most hated Posterboy, V.V. Putin.

    Those who have the steady guts to prevent barfing while they watch the talking-heads on boobtoob nitely noose, will be gifted with a full dose of barf and garbage. So if you choose to listen to the litany of lies, do yourself a favor and bring along both smelling-salts and a barf-bucket.

    Needles to say, our most beloved Commandeering Chief is slowly reading his cue-cards while regurgitating the line that Winker, Blinken and Nod a chance for truth-talking have so kindly provided for him, as his mental processes are rarely capable any more of retention of recent knowledge.
    ..or clearly stated orders from his monitors. That clown could not all by himself lead a horse to water, much less make him drink.

    The OSCE, a UN connected mission, responsible for monitoring the line of demarcation between the defending loyalists to their original lawfully elected president and as against their sworn enemies, the Azov Battalion, the fascistic Galicians and scared shitless Ukrainian conscripts. OSCE has determined that most by far of the artillery shells have fallen on or behind the lines of the beleaguered loyalists.

    Why are those conscripts trembling in their combat-boots? Mama Bear may be getting just a tad agitated over predators messing with her cubs.

  171. wholy1 says:

    Looks like another good example of “cui bono”. Ukraine been a US D[e]C[eit] Criminal Cabal decades-long “honey pot”. And the “players” are increasingly desperate to ensure past grifting is not disclosed!

  172. @Quartermaster

    You are so full of it that would take entire issues of both the Chew Pork Slimes and the Butt-Wa Poo to clean up the mess.

  173. Trinity says:

    Wasn’t the old Russian Empire one of the largest empires ever? Roman, Mongolian, British, etc. Well we “bloody” well know what happened to the British. And we know (((the Bolshevik “communist”))) took over Russia aided by NYC bankster and ” capitalist ” (((Jacob Schiff.))) Muh Israel is our greatest ally.

    Somebody call slumlords Donald Trump and ((( Jared Kushner.))) Muh Israel First / Kush/Baby Trump Jr 2024

    Cue: Where Have All The Cowboys Gone by Paula Cole

  174. @Robinski

    Someone invaded Russia. And someone invaded Palestine. Saying “Russia did X”, when really the USSR did it is like saying “Palestine bombed Syria”, when really “israel” did it.
    You heard about Schiff and the Russo-Japan war?

  175. @Avery

    Yes, I know Russia doesn’t do sanctions. I meant it as a last option if the EU keeps going along with US dictates. Russia said itself it doesn’t care about Western sanctions so maybe Biden’s “sanctions from hell’ will cut off all trade with Russia including the gas supplies.

  176. @Miro23

    Israel getting away from its very own sinking ship? Seems a little far fetched.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  177. @sally

    No, I don’t argue that there aren’t plenty of elite, connected and wealthy jews who are responsible for a huge amount of the propaganda and general evil that goes on. I’m just sick of the constant barrage that would have us think that they’re the only bad actors. Getting rid of Neocons would help a lot but what about the elites who are not Jewish who work against the true interests of the people. Do they get to scapegoat the Jews and walk away blame free?

    Separate but related, I see the Israeli expertise at cyber crime to be a major threat to any restoration of the American way. An electronic Cheka which can hack your electronics any time without you even knowing is terrifying.

  178. @Been_there_done_that

    For your inflammation, Willy Wimmer, former Vice President of the OSCE and also a ranker in the German Ministry of Defense, stated that he personally witnessed documentation of the NATO promise to Russia that they would not expand eastwards to squeeze Russia. This documentation was presented to Chancellor Helmut Kohl by Wimmer.

    Another German source, the major “Der Spiegel” newspaper published a document revealing that this promise on the part of NATO was agreed to at a meeting of defense ministers/secretaries of the U.K., the U\$\$A, France and Germany on March 6, 1991.

    The promise did not last long. In 1992 the notorious Neocon superjew, Wolfowitz, pronounced a new doctrine claiming that now that the U\$\$A was the world’s only super-power it could do as it pleased when it came to ordering NATO to expand eastwards.

    The rest is history. DonethereBeenthat, you are hereby outflanked and are subject to enfilading fire. You yammer on about treaties and such, obviously being a proud supporter of the Empire which has violated virtually every treaty it has ever signed…particularly treaties signed under the promise of “as long as the sun shall shine and the grass shall grow” to innumerable native tribes.

    You are a disgrace to the Battle at Concord Bridge and to the Declaration of Independence. You support the evils that have rendered this land into nothing more than a ruptured republic, one which is run by liars, oath breakers and parasitical scum which have risen to the top of the toilet bowl.

    • Thanks: Mevashir
    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  179. JWalters says:
    @Cookie

    I too am frustrated at what incompetent citizens most Americans are. A major factor I believe is that most people are not very interested in politics.

    For example, if major league baseball was completely corrupt, and the mainstream press was covering it up, I would be completely unaware of it because I’m not much interested in major league baseball.

    Most people are like that with politics. I paid no attention to politics for a long time. Even now, there are only certain aspects of it that interest me. I pay almost no attention to local or state politics. Fortunately there are people who do, as I’ve learned that even local politics are quite corrupt.

    Another factor is the changes in our education system, which is discussed in the thread started by Aurhur McBride’s reply to my post, paralleling your reply.

  180. Seraphim says:
    @Sepp

    I keep in mind and repeat the warnings of Bismarck:
    ”It is debatable if such a war could possibly result in Russia being, as Count Kálnoky put it, “smashed.” But such a result is beyond all probability, even after the most brilliant victories. Even the most favorable outcome of the war would never result in the disintegration of the main power of Russia, which rests on the millions of native Russians of Greek denomination. Even if separated by treaty, these would always come together again just as quickly as the parts of a dismembered body of mercury. This indestructible empire of the Russian nation, strong by its climate, its deserts, and its wantlessness, as well as by the advantage of having but one frontier in need of protection, would, after its defeat, remain our born adversary in need of revenge, just as modern-day France is in the West”.
    ”Do not expect that once taking advantage of Russia’s weakness, you will receive dividends forever. Russian has always come for their money. And when they come – do not rely on an agreement signed by you, you are supposed to justify. They are not worth the paper it is written. Therefore, with the Russian is to play fair, or do not play”.
    ”The secret of politics? Make a good treaty with Russia”.
    Neither the befuddled Kaiser nor the no less befuddled Hitler listened to him.
    You may add the warnings of Marshal Montgomery:
    ”Rule 1, on page 1 of the book of war, is: “Do not march on Moscow”. Various people have tried it, Napoleon and Hitler, and it is no good. That is the first rule. I do not know whether your Lordships will know Rule 2 of war. It is: “Do not go fighting with your land armies in China”. It is a vast country, with no clearly defined objectives”.
    Nobody wants to listen to Montgomery either!

  181. JWalters says:
    @Flying Dutchman

    Hopefully the storyline is beginning to turn.

    “Church leaders call expansion of Israeli national park a ‘direct attack on the Christians in the Holy Land’”
    https://mondoweiss.net/2022/02/church-leaders-call-expansion-of-israeli-national-park-a-direct-attack-on-the-christians-in-the-holy-land/

    “Rejection of ‘Israel’s apartheid’ grows as D.C. Episcopalians affirm their opposition, 3 to 1”
    https://mondoweiss.net/2022/02/rejection-of-israels-apartheid-grows-as-d-c-episcopalians-affirm-their-opposition-3-to-1/

  182. @Been_there_done_that

    Whats this bullshit you’re peddling re: Kaliningrad oblast? This formerly german area was taken in response to the german aggression on SU. It has nothing to do with NATO which did not exist in 1944-1945 when the facts on the ground were established. If you’re so bothered about it why is Gibraltar still not returned back to Spain, the Malvinas islands to Argentina and the illegally occupied Cyprus territory where the british base is to Cyprus? 3 lands taken at different times by the greedy brits, the ownership rightfully still challenged by the respective countries (well, at least the cypriots get paid some pidly whore money for it).

  183. Mevashir says:

    GOD BLESS PRESIDENT PUTIN!

    Traveling home on the bus tonight, surrounded by people with ragged clothes, tattoos, green hair, and other signs of the wreckage of American society, it occurred to me just how brilliant Vladimir Putin is.

    He promised not to invade Ukraine. And he is a man of his word. First of all he recognized the Eastern republics as a new country. Then he sends in a peacekeeping force. Not Ukraine and not an invasion! What a brilliant maneuver!

    Truly our corrupt and vile political class stands no chance against a cunning adversary like Putin. Whether you hate him or like him, you have to feel jealous that the Russians have such a great leader and we are ruled by such scum.

    I think any person of decency and integrity should be praying that the Russians prevail in this confrontation. Use the words ROSSIYA MATUSHKA which I believe is Russian for Mother Russia. May God protect her and prosper her against the wicked and depraved principalities and powers that rule the West.

    [MORE]

    Here are some videos to inspire us:

    • Agree: Z-man, Robjil
    • Thanks: emerging majority
    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @Desert Fox
  184. JWalters says:
    @Arthur MacBride

    WHY are Americans such incompetent citizens is indeed a key question. Part of the answer is a lack of interest. In my reply to cookie’s post (which parallels yours) I discuss the disinterest factor, including my own history of disinterest.

    Another factor is the education system, raised by emerging majority in reply to your post. I’ve added a comment to his post.

    Also, I’m coming around to the view that there is a deliberate sabotage of American culture going on by the Jewish supremacist banking cartel that, it increasingly appears to me, is trying to rule the world.
    “War Profiteers and Israel’s Bank”
    https://warprofiteerstory.blogspot.com/p/war-profiteers-and-israels-bank.html

    It should be noted that this cartel makes enormous efforts to thoroughly brainwash the rank and file Jewish community. Here’s the view of a Jewish, Israeli-born therapist who now lives in Scotland.
    “It’s time for American Jews to recognize they have been duped”
    http://mondoweiss.net/2015/07/american-recognize-duped

    • Thanks: Mevashir, Arthur MacBride
    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
  185. Avery says:
    @matzahballsgonewrong

    {Putin’s going to be declared an “armed and extremely dangerous terrorist” and be dealt with the same way as Bin Laden.}

    Who is going to do it, homes? Maybe youse would like to volunteer?
    And who is the one that will do the ‘dealt with’ thing, Yank?
    In any case, whoever it is that tries will have a few hundred tactical nukes* up his/her arse. And if that don’t disabuse them of their delusions, maybe a Tsar Bomba next.

    [Tsar Bomba(s) 1080p ᴴᴰ Novaya Zemlya Russia equal to about 58 megatons of TNT ]

    ____________________________________________________________
    *
    https://www.icanw.org/nuclear_arsenals
    Russia 6,255 warheads.
    USA 5,550 warheads.

  186. @Robert Dolan

    Biden is not Hitlerian in any sense.

    But his pose is – which is what I said.

    [MORE]

  187. Mevashir says:
    @Mevashir

    [MORE]

    The boy ice skating is an 8-year-old Russian national champion!

  188. Avery says:
    @matzahballsgonewrong

    btw: as soon as youse GloboReptilians declare war criminals* G.W. Bush and T. Blair, quote, “armed and extremely dangerous terrorists” and jail them for causing the deaths of 100s of 1,000s of Iraqi civilians, including children, then youse can bloviate about Putin.

    ____________________________________________________
    * the British Chilcot report found that the British invasion of Iraq was unjustified: illegal.
    Therefore the US invasion was also illegal.
    Therefore the invasion was Bona Fide war crime.
    Which makes G.W. Bush and T. Blair who were commanders in chief of their respective nations and who ordered their armed forces to invade — Bona Fide war criminals.

    • Agree: Notsofast
    • Replies: @matzahballsgonewrong
  189. @JWalters

    The problem is that America has never been invaded and occupied by a hostile power so they don’t understand why other people have an issue with it. Nothing wrong with America that a carpet bombing won’t cure.

    That’s just lazy thinking. Americans have tried to vote their way out of this mess for decades, only to have their so-called representatives change course after being elected. The politicians do exactly as they are told, and the agenda is largely hidden from the voters. It is outright stupidity to say that the America voters get what they vote for, since the agenda is largely hidden. More often than not we get the exact opposite of what we voted for.

    • Replies: @Flying Dutchman
    , @JWalters
  190. @Notsofast

    How about 40 000 people killed in 1956 during Russian intervention in Hungary?

    • Replies: @Notsofast
  191. c matt says:
    @Z-man

    No disagreement. But how do we put them back on a leash through which they have thoroughly chewed?

    • Replies: @Z-man
  192. peterAUS says:
    @sally

    Now What?

    Nobody knows.

    We are in interesting times for sure.

  193. Cookie says:

    Europe is at the crossroads, it must decide either they are captive to the U.S business elite whose front office are the bases dotted everywhere, or will they start removing these dots and trading with the future?

    The U.S.A are in for some hard times economically, until hard sanction are put on businesses who abandoned the American people then life for the bottom U.S citizen will not improve, you need your heavy industry people.

    Australia isn’t stupid, even though they have problems with China they still try and sell them anything that isn’t nailed down.

    As in the statement in the movie Network (god Americans use to make good movies) stated “the world is a business…it has been since humans crawled out of the slime.”

  194. As I have previously posted elsewhere, back in March of 2014, Chris Ernesto outlined Brzezinski’s overview of Ukraine’s strategic importance to Russia. This article summarizes some of Zbig’s opinions and excerpts taken from his infamous 1997 book, The Grand Chessboard. Since that time there have been several changes to both the technological and geopolitical(military) posture within the Eurasian region. For example; Russia no longer requires the mineral resources of Ukraine, because the Chinese BRI will eventually be a conduit that will provide rare earths for high tech finished products like computers and cell phones. The Taliban have already invited China to play a role in (true) economic development and in principle have negotiated plans that accelerate the BRI initiative. The Chinese-Taliban alliances will ensure rare earth and other mineral deliveries to Russia. This commercial integration will, of course, be a gradual process since Russia and China are at best frenemies due to former wars between them and also China still maintains a one million standing army that can be rushed to the Russian border during any future conflict.

    Russian naval access to the Black Sea via the Ukraine is of diminishing importance since efforts have begun to expand their naval port in Tartus as well as the Hmeimim air base in Latakia Syria. They are currently in the throes of constructing a floating dock (port) at its naval base in Tartus that will be completed by the end of this year. Warm water access is now guaranteed. This new posture is coupled with the very recent deployment and testing of the Zircon anti-ship hyper sonic cruise missile and the RS-24 Yars ballistic missiles. The Zircon can destroy any aircraft carrier with one salvo and the RS-24 serves as the Russian arm of Armageddon, much like our sub launched D-5’s do.

    Zbig, that old cold warrior and the many, “Check-Point Charlie(s)” of the past, are just that- in the past. The hatred and animus in Brzezinski’s psyche for anything Russian is clear enough and it seeps into his interpretations and historical perspectives. Tho, it must be acknowledged here that, Poles hating Germans and Russians hating the other two probably lie just beneath the skin of so called- western Europe’s “civility”. There was and remains a European predilection towards warring with their immediate neighbors, so it goes…we here in the USA had our “civil war” In effect, we “had it out” amongst our own brothers and cousins, thus will never return to repeating old and prejudicial mistakes, nor flirt with secession (as Texan’s often do) However the EU has yet to evolve as successfully as the USA has among its differing cultures. I’m referring to peoples south and north of the Mason-Dixon line. That said, someone (behind the curtain) with great power and influence or Club of Rome? assumed that a monetary union, a Euro EU economic integration plan directed by a select group of un-elected Oberführer(s) who would, without reservation, obey the Banksters- aka Brussels i.e., EU, NATO WCO, could (somehow) accomplish what all the intricacies and fruits of the American Civil War did however that integration effort and its conspiracies simply petered out. Example; the Germans like to hoard their own Euro’s and skip anything fiat, or anything else for that matter, from southern Europe.

    ASIDE: In regards to this latest Ukraine crisis, the USA is just a cog in the wheel, totally under the control on the international bankers. Keep in mind that all wars are banker wars. Visit Revero’s documentary;

    What, might spell real trouble for world peace and security? Most likely it won’t be in the Donbass, rather those events that immediately follow a collapse of the EU/Euro. The initiating catalyst will be France. Then everyone will witness what the real problem was in the first place, a collision between monetary systems and their developmental policies (nation building). Wall Street, London, Brussels, Japan, Rothschild and FR banking cartels are now in direct opposition to the Yuan-Ruble both backed by enormous gold reserves. I had hopes that crypto-Bitcoin would come to the rescue, perhaps mitigating between this new bi-polar world but there’s just not enough Bitcoin to influence either side.

  195. @Robjil

    95% of Crimeans voted to rejoin Russia. The UN, UK AND USA had a Ukrainian President removed and invalidated this referendum. Unbelievable the people who accuse others of having short memories.

    • Agree: Robjil
  196. Z-man says:
    @c matt

    Yeah, they’ve chewed right through it.(Grin) I just echoed the previous post. Instead of ‘on a leash’, it’s influence and power must be attacked, in as cunning a manner as they employ, and then defeated. But that’s the difficult part.

  197. annamaria says:
    @Robinski

    https://www.moonofalabama.org

    Minsk 2 reinforced by UN Resolution 2202(2015) have called for Donbass to be an autonomous area specified in a constitution, which Kyev refuses to do.

    Have you ever heard about Kosovo? The US/NATO had been bombing Yugolavia for months; broke the country, and then declared the independence of Kosovo.

    The US/NATO has committed war crimes to accomplish a regime change in Yugoslavia.

    Amidst at sea of U.S. flags, the rulers of Kosovo announced its ‘independence’ from Serbia… This declaration is the latest act in the west’s quest to destroy Serbia, a pillar of the former Yugoslavia

    https://www.socialistrevolution.org/is-nato-using-depleted-uranium-in-yugoslavia

    Depleted Uranium is literally toxic waste—the remains of uranium-238 and uranium-235 used in nuclear reactors. … Several weapons used during the recent conflict in Yugoslavia contain depleted uranium, including missiles and armor-piercing incendiary rounds. … Moreover, there is compelling evidence that D.U. ammunition was used by NATO in the 1995 bombing of Bosnia.

    • Agree: JR Foley
  198. Agent76 says:

    May 15, 2017 Ukraine: US-Installed Fascist Rule in Europe’s Heartland

    Will Donetsk Rejoin Russia? The nation shares a near-1,500 mile land and sea border with Russia. Stop NATO’s Rick Rozoff earlier explained Ukraine is “the decisive linchpin in plans by the US and its NATO allies to effect a military cordon sanitaire, severing Russia from Europe” – a sinister plot perhaps intended as prelude to nuclear war.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukraine-us-installed-fascist-rule-in-europes-heartland-will-donetsk-rejoin-russia/5590150

    Sep 9, 2016 US funded Ukrainian army is terrorizing civilians, 2016

    Russell Bentley is a former US marine, that now fights for the Donbass, Eastern Ukraine, against the US-funded Ukrainian army.

  199. Sean says:
    @emerging majority

    You cite the Telegraph?

    I twice cited Professor Jeremy Black, who is one of the most learned military historians.

    It is simply another aspect of the Rottenchild control nexus over the Sceptred Isle.

    They are not ten feet tall you know. As I recall a married Rothchild left her husband from another almost as wealthy British Jewish family for a black rapper, so they can’t even control their own. And as I keep pointing out Israel refrains from meaningfully criticizing Putin about Ukraine, or anything else.

    Ukrainian “sovereignty” was totally violated by Viccious Nudelman, the U\$\$A Department of \$tate and Little Georgie of Our \$orrow\$.

    The ultimate aim of America and every every 0ther country is to be totally secure. But because America is unable to to conquer the whole globe because it is separated from the World Island by large bodies of water. But the US has hegemony in its own backyard and this total regional dominance is as much as security the US can achieved. America’s objective is to prevent any other country attaining hegemony in their own region. Great powers like Russia and China if secure in their homelands areas would be free to cause trouble in the Americas. As Professor John Mearsheimer puts it “Most Americans don’t think about this, but the reason that the United States is wandering all over God’s little green acre, sticking its nose in everybody’s business, is because we are free to roam. We have no threats in the Western Hemisphere that pin us down”. The rules of the game were not made by the USA, they existed from the time of ancient Greece and was clear in the Melian Dialogue of Thucydides.

    Our opinion of the gods and our knowledge of men lead us to conclude that it is a general and necessary law of nature to rule whatever one can. This is not a law that we made ourselves, nor were we the first to act upon it when it was made. We found it already in existence, and we shall leave it to exist for ever among those who come after us. We are merely acting in accordance with it, and we know that you or anybody else with the same power as ours would be acting in precisely the same way

    It is necessary to ceaselessly expand the Western alliances into the region of rival great powers and up to their border (as with the American missile base in Poland that Putin was complaining in his speech on Monday) that would be able to hit Moscow on four minutes on launch) to prevent them achieving regional hegemony. John V. Walsh has cited proof that this is exactly the way American strategist’s think in new article on this site where he gives the Wolfowitz Doctrine

    [T]he U.S.’s “first objective is to prevent the re-emergence of a new rival, either on the territory of the former Soviet union or elsewhere…. no regional power must be allowed to emerge with the power and resources “sufficient to generate global power.” (And) we must maintain the mechanism for deterring potential competitors from even aspiring to a larger regional or global power.”

    In 2007, it the US and was about to build ABM bases in Poland, supposedly to defend against Iranian nuclear ICBM’s they still do not have two decades later, was happening the next year at the insistence of the US, Nato announced that Georgia and Ukraine would become members, which Nato with the runaround Russia got the when they tried to join. By 2008 Putin understood that Nato which both he and his patron/ predecessor Yeltsin had actually tried to join, is dedicated to making Russia insecure. In 2016 an ABM missile base of America became operational in Romania. The Polish base is going to become operational later this year. See https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/16/world/europe/poland-missile-base-russia-ukraine.html That is what has brought matter to a head, and is the main point in Putin’s speech made a few hours ago, where ie noted the 300 seconds hypersonic flight time of the base from Moscow.

    The current regime in Kiev is a gawd-awful amalgam of Khazarian and Galician revanchists who hate the common Ukrainian people and detest Russia.

    In 1990 Ukrainian had the same standard of living as Poland, now it has one third. Thousands of Ukrainian women are surrogate mothers for wealthy Chinese and Western couples. Ukraine has hit rock bottom. But they want to play Nato like Poland is trying to, whereby Poles will get cheap gas from American LNG, subsidized by America.

    Sean, your mentality is either that of a very well paid operative or an imbiber in the blather spewed by the talking heads on boobtoob nitely noose.

    Putin said “I have never said this publicly but in 2000 I asked Bill Clinton about Russia joining NATO”. So who is the gullible one? I see the world as it is. America has inflicted a series of diplomatic and geopolitical catastrophes on naively led Russia. The trouble is the US has done far too good a job and Russia is now bound hand and foot. There is no way out for Putin, and once cut off from innovations that Russia cannot produce (Russia not longer ever tries to develop new microprocessors) by Western sanctions that are now inevitable, his country is going to become technologically dependent on China within a generation. China is the great winner in all this,

  200. @Mike Whitney

    How does Putin “escape this trap”??? Very easily, simply do not have regular Russian Army troops cross into DPR Donesk/DPR Lugansk ON A LARGE SCALE. Then The United Nations Charter would kick in and all would be lost for Russia and the DPRs. Not necessary anyway, Ukraine failed to reduce Donesk/Lugansk in 2014, and failed to renew the offfesive in 2015 and hasn’t taken the initiative since. DPR Donesk/DPR Lugansk has been de facto independent since then, and time is on the DPR’s and Russia’s side. Every year the DPRs fight they get sharper. Russia has plenty of deniable options: logistical support(food, uniforms, boots, body armor, tents and bivvy bags, radios, binoculars and night vision, rifle optics and ammunition, you name it, DPRs got it), resupply, repair, and replacement of DPR heavy equipment. Intelligence and targeting information(BOTH CRITICAL!!!). Special Forces training, command, advisory, and organizational support of DPR troops. Russian Special Forces operating manpads, anti armor teams, sniper teams on DPR territory, antiaircraft missiles and artillery support from Russian territory, air dominance operations over the DPRs, medical evacuation, surgical hospitals and long term care, the list is endless. It is unlikely to be necessary, but the Russian Army could conduct quick decisive interventions at the battalion level, then return to Russia. That would be deniable. Really all Russia has to do is maintain the status quo. In two years it will be 10 years since the DPRs separated from Ukraine, every year makes Ukraine’s claims more irrelevant.

  201. @OilcanFloyd

    It is outright stupidity to say that the America voters get what they vote for, since the agenda is largely hidden. More often than not we get the exact opposite of what we voted for.

    One of the most true adages goes, “fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me”, and it’s applied nowhere better than to American voters who claim to get the opposite of what they voted for.

    So it is outright stupidity to say the American voters get anything other than what they vote for, nothing more, nothing less. And the agenda is never hidden. Everyone knows exactly what the lies are and what the liars really will do once voted in.

    (This also applies to believing the word of institutions which are known pathological liars, such as ever having believed them when they claimed there was a “pandemic” and that the only salvation was to unquestioningly obey whatever the liars said.)

  202. @annamaria

    He might have been, but he is no more if he writes such garbage.

  203. JR Foley says:
    @Carton

    Narrow it down please —–White House Pentagon and CIA and 6 big war welfare bums and YES –I would applaud !!!

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  204. Mevashir says:
    @JR Foley

    I always thought that Hollywood and Las Vegas should have been the targets on 9/11.

  205. JWalters says:
    @emerging majority

    You bring up a number of good points. I’ve also been told that civics education has been gutted in the schools. Thomas Jefferson advocated educating every child at the public expense so they could (1) read about the issues of the day, (2) keep track of their basic finances, and (3) understand why the revolution was fought, so as to maintain their liberty in the future. Further, best students would be sent to college at public expense so that the leaders of society would not all come from the wealthy class. We’ve lost touch with those goals.

    The financial rulers have taken control of the textbooks to ensure we don’t learn our history, and that we especially don’t learn the history of their machinations.

    We’ve also seen the kiddification of society, with movies glorifying kids and ridiculing adults, with parents pampering their kids, and with games and movies feeding their minds and wasting their time with garbage.

    However, there has been a serious interest in the education community to find the most effective methods of education. This began as a move away from animal training techniques, which were basically rote memorization with rewards and punishment. The shift has been to a focus on thinking skills. For example, Elizabeth Green wrote How to Build a Better Teacher which describes the history of such an effort in teaching elementary school mathematics. And I know first-hand of a number of teachers who are genuinely interested in their students, and doing the best they can for them.

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  206. JWalters says:
    @OilcanFloyd

    I agree with your comment. But the initial passage you attribute to me is not mine.

  207. @Humbert Humbert

    – The Malvinas, Gibraltar and Cyprus are only a question of time
    (and Brexit doesn´t help); Königsberg however is still legally
    “Territory of the Reich under Russian administration”, not a part of Russia
    (much the same goes for three fifths of “Poland”).

  208. @emerging majority

    …the NATO promise to Russia that they would not expand eastwards …

    You have clearly lost the argument, which astute readers following this exchange will easily recognize by your silly and emotional drama-queen clown antics. You have:

    • failed to address the facts based on the acknowledgements in the 1997 Paris treaty;
    • reverted to a false characterization taken out of context, which is entirely irrelevant;
    • diverted from Russia’s real threat by complaining about Neocon doctrine and Empire;
    • engaged in attacks against me (“disgrace..”), based on a fabricated association.

    It’s funny, in light of your assertions in a different thread yesterday, that your annoying tantrum derives from your reliance upon Der Spiegel as a source, as you stated. That Hamburg publication completely degraded itself a few years ago when a popular “journalist” (scumbag) admitted to having regularly fabricated stories. In need of funding to stay afloat, the publication then received millions of dollars in donations from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, according to funding declarations at their foundation’s web site, which I have personally verified.

    Russia’s Internet propaganda outlet, RT, picked up on the story from Der Spiegel only a few days ago with its own presentation:

    “We made it clear to the Soviet Union – in the 2+4 talks, as well as in other negotiations – that we do not intend to benefit from the withdrawal of Soviet troops from Eastern Europe,” the document quotes US Assistant Secretary of State for Europe and Canada Raymond Seitz.

    “NATO should not expand to the east, either officially or unofficially,” Seitz added.

    What you falsely described as a “promise” is nothing more than a verbal statement of conditional positions pertaining to NATO troops in East Germany after an expected withdrawal of USSR troops. (These 2+4 talks occurred 32 years ago with regard to Germany.)

    Note the term “do not intend“, which is based on the circumstances at that time and certainly not a firm commitment for the indefinite future pertaining to other regions. Also note the term “should not“, which expresses a sentiment, but is not equivalent to such assertive terms as “shall not”, “must not”, “cannot”, or “will not”.

    Even Gorbachev confirmed in an interview with a Russian publication that no promises were made about NATO expansion beyond Germany in those discussions. (Check the archives from a few weeks ago for quotes and a direct link.) However, as I pointed out at Unz Review, NATO has adhered to the limited understanding to this day, since there are no NATO bases in eastern Germany.

    The cited document unambiguously confirms that NATO took on a very magnanimous stance toward the USSR, and later toward Russia. Remaining Russian troops did not leave the Baltic states until August 1994. It then became increasingly obvious, through its failure to leave the Königsberg / Kaliningrad region, that Russia wanted to maintain for itself the option of an easy military reconquest in the future.

    This unanticipated position to illegally occupy previously captured territory necessarily changed the dynamics of the region. As you prefer to ignore, in the 1997 treaty Russia acknowledged the rights of these countries to choose their alliances. Whatever was said or suggested at the 2+4 negotiations years before that, with regard to NATO expansion, thus became irrelevant.

    Poland did not join NATO until 1999. Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia joined NATO in 2004. Russia’s lingering Stalinist attitudes, reflected by the manner in which its leaders mishandled the Königsberg / Kaliningrad situation is largely responsible for these countries having sought their alliance with NATO as a defense against the Russian threat.

    All this explains why Russia’s recent public whining, as of last December, about NATO enlargement, over the years, as an alleged threat, is so spectacularly hypocritical, and why your theatrical attacks against me are unfounded and disgusting.

    It’s “game over” for your tarnished handle “emerging majority“. In case you operate on behalf of a troll farm, I suppose your supervisor will wish to assign you a new handle, with which you will surely irritate us again with more of your unfounded propaganda nonsense, incoherent meta perspective pretensions, and raw hysterics.

  209. erzberger says:
    @Pamela

    So Germany had nothing to do with WW 2 because Hitler was Austrian?

  210. @Wokechoke

    Post WWII-German governments have been very different from Third Reich (thank God!), yet they all recognized their responsibilities to pay compensation to the victims of the latter. They did not try to bow out saying: “this was not us.” Similarly, Russia now is not the Soviet Union, yet there is some historical continuity whether they like it or not: Kremlin buildings remain the same, they inherited from the Soviets nuclear weapons, etc. Even in total disagreement with past policies, they cannot say, for example: “these were these pesky guys from Kazachstan who do not part of our country anymore” Decisions were taken in Kremlin, and they still are…

  211. @Wokechoke

    You guys completely omitted three partitions of Poland with Russia being one of the main actors in the process of dismantling of the Polish statehood, quashing national uprising there, deporting thousands of people to Siberia, etc.
    The Poles definitively went overboard with their anti-Russian, yet there are deep objective historical causes of that attitude.

  212. S says:
    @JWalters

    You should read the book linked below if you’ve not already done so. Though a bit dry in places, it pretty much agrees with your post, and is well worth a gander.

    https://archive.org/details/newrome00poes/page/n15/mode/2up

  213. @Humbert Humbert

    This formerly german area was taken in response to the german aggression on SU.

    The USSR was allowed to administer this territory provisionally in 1945. Sovereignty was not transferred to Russia, which simply annexed it, in contravention of international law. Therefore the issue remains unresolved.

    You are very confused. This topic has been explained repeatedly in detail. If you feel that a lingering sentiment of vengeance is paramount, but internationally accepted legal principles are irrelevant, then you should state so explicitly.

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  214. S says:
    @Arthur MacBride

    There are explanations, though I wouldn’t say a lot of excuses. People in the United States should know far better than they do the nature of their own country and it’s history. Self deception, almost needless to say, has played, and does play, a massive role in how the present state of affairs came to be.

    It’s multi-faceted, and not necessarily in the order of importance I list and describe below.

    [MORE]

    One major aspect of this is since its founding one could say that there have been two United States which have warred against each other, one, a traditional ethnically based country where people simply wanted to be left alone, something which people, especially during times of war, have been encouraged to think they always had, and a second, global empire seeking United States, a New Rome, which powerful elements of the elites and hangers on have adhered to since 1776. I think the former, though certainly not perfect, a traditional ethnically based US, would have been far better, though imo, the odds have always been against it succeeding.

    Almost everyone has an innocent, if but a bit naive, relative or ancestor that was generally a very low level member of one (or more) of the various secret societies which have permeated US society since its founding. So, almost immediately, should you question what some of the more powerful and higher level folks involved in these societies were up to, and why all the secrecy, these persons will respond with ‘great grandfather Thomas was a member of this society, and he was a-okay’, or, ‘Uncle Jack was a member, and he was a good egg’. For them, a very great many unfortunately, further thought and discussion about this important matter ends there.

    The unfortunate, and absurd, ideology of British Israelism, aka Anglo-American Israelism, has historically certainly played a role, amongst some of the powerful, and not so powerful. People should be happy and content with their actual origins and not tell themselves tall tales.

    The failure to this day to have dealt in a truthful matter with chattel slavery and it’s trade, where with the early 19th century introduction of wage slavery, ie specifically the so called cheap labor/mass immigration system, rather than abolishing slavery, it was instead monetized, that is it was distilled down to it’s financial essence, whilst profits were maximized. This failure has been a catastrophe of unprecedented proportions for the peoples of the world and for humanity as a whole, though particularly a disaster for the people of the United States.

    The long term dysfunctional relationship that has existed between the Anglo-Saxon and Jewish people, starting at the time of Cromwell. Being of a somewhat codependent nature and ultimately destructive towards both peoples, an amicable if at all possible separation of the two should have been sought.

    Not taking a firm enough stand historically. I don’t say this condemningly, I wasn’t there. Many powerful, and not so powerful people, correctly protesting things, but as soon as a war comes along going ahead and ‘signing up’ for duty anyhow. If all those great many America Firsters, after elements of the US elites had finagled a war with Japan and Germany in 1941, very much against the general American public’s wishes, had, at no doubt great hardship to themselves, refused to sign up and answer their induction calls then, would today’s US elites and hangers on be so ready today to start WWIII?

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  215. Anon[824] • Disclaimer says:

    TSARIST Russia attacked everybody and his brother for CENTURIES. It’s what royalist Russians DO. And of course the Russian-led USSR attacked all kinda countries for all kinda reasons.

    So I assume you have started a “blank slate” as of some VERY recent date for some specific VERY recent Russian government. And this new, post-Commie Russia is now rich enough (and Capitalist enough) that they can BUY enough stuff under mutually beneficial trade deals that passing out bullets to the Ruski soldiers isn’t worth the expense.

    The Americans USED TO BE pretty good at winning the “guns vs. butter” games, but American Capitalists went multi-national. And so now the ONLY purpose of US DoD is SELLING guns (no butter) to any country whose checks clear. (Um, we LOAN them US tax dollars so they can AFFORD to buy useless crap from Lockheed, etc.)

    But this all depresses me, so I’m gonna go watch videos now (starting with the 9 millionth showing of “Time Warp”

  216. Notsofast says:
    @tetrachord

    …….40,000 people killed during the soviet unions intervention…. fify.

    • Replies: @Patrick McNally
  217. @JWalters

    Thank you for your measured and well-reasoned response. Also thanks for the information from Jefferson on education. I was quite unaware of that. Jefferson, I consider to have been our best president and in a real way a truly noble exemplar of good governance.

    Yes, it would appear that most contemporary parents, those in the egregious sub-urbs in particular, due to the near total lack of a sense of commonality/community in those breeding-grounds. The old African proverb “It takes a village to raise a child” is utterly apt. Children should not be raised in anti-communities.

    If this country is to have a future it will require dismantling all the Metropoli and people who wish to make children should receive all possible encouragement to become part of newly established rural, communitarian villages with the lands around them being held in trust as commons.

    I don’t feel comfortable with the term “educational community”, as those institutions need a complete re-theorization and then a massive restructuring. The current system separates children from the community and essentially hot-houses them into their own little world. Thus, the exponential manifestation of the kid-whipped parents phenomenon.

    It is good to learn, though, that there are people within the educational system who are beginning to re-think their environment. What the educators need is for outside voices with whom they can interact in order to conceptualize and then develop needed new educational formats. Even in the 1970’s it was Danish social policy to locate pre-schools and kindergartens immediately adjacent to retirement homes and even nursing homes. Little kids and lonely elders possessing the wisdom of many years desperately need each others’ company.

    My personal take, as you will have gathered, is that the traditional liberal approach of gradualist reformism simply will not succeed. We need a revolution in our entire cultural matrix. One giant step would be the realization that education is totally a community affair and responsibility. Kids need adults who are NOT necessarily authority figures…and vice versa.

    • Replies: @JWalters
  218. Wokechoke says:
    @tetrachord

    Poland is a problem country. Warsaw is no world power. Berlin and Moscow are. Countries like France and Britain and now the US cry a river about plucky little Poland but generally people on Poland’s side end up having a weak partner with unpredictable behaviour.

  219. Wokechoke says:
    @Druid55

    Oh yeah, chechnyiraqiranlibyasyria…

  220. @Been_there_done_that

    To slightly paraphrase the egregious Viccious Nudelman, Gauleiter to her established puppet coup d’etat regime in Kiev: “Fuck international law”. Why you keep harping on this desiccated old rag which long ago and consistently in the recent past has been constantly violated by the U\$\$A and other bank\$ter denominated regimes; I simply cannot fathom;

    “What do you think of Western Civilization”? Asked an interviewer of Mohandas Ghandi. “I think it would be a good idea”, the sage responded. The same is true with international law. It would be a good idea, but those who support Neo-imperialist financier regimes will never accept any such reins on their reigns of state terror.

    You are constantly barking up the wrong tree. Capisce?

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  221. @tetrachord

    Does it trouble you that the decisions taken by the current Russian government are generally well thought out and not at all similar to those of Stalin’s regime and his Bolshevik predecessors? You do appear to insinuate that Russian diplomacy and geopolitical stances are somehow not kosher. In order to preserve domestic harmony in that multi-ethnic state, they apparently feel a need to smooth over previously nasty actions by prior governments.

    It’s somewhat similar to the treatment given George Washington in American history books. To the Lenape (Delaware) people he was known as “the destroyer of villages” as his Federal forces and even before that, revolutionary army forces, burned off the fields and orchards of the natives and likewise their very homes, driving them out of the territory which lands were much coveted by his land-speculator associates.

    Stephen Vincent Benet wrote a remarkable poem titled “Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee”. This happens to be the unfortunate legacy of the American people.

    The great visionary Way-Shower, Jesus, reminded us to not get all worked up about a speck in our neighbor’s eye, when there is a log in our own.

    • Replies: @tetrachord
  222. @emerging majority

    “Fuck international law”

    A typical political hypocrite you are, apparently even proud of it! Less than twenty hours ago you got all worked up about some alleged verbal “promise” for eternity during negotiations in 1990, that you falsely claimed was not kept, yet now you sweepingly deride basic legal principles and signed treatieswhen it may be inconvenient, simply because they have not always been strictly adhered to. I guess this is the selective Orwellian and amoral attitude one needs to have to be a committed Vlad-cultist, but then it seems somewhat peculiar that you even bothered to respond to my initial message in this thread, which was prompted by contradicting the following quote in Whitney’s propaganda piece: “Moscow is committed to international law…

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  223. @Notsofast

    More like 2,500 dead and 20,000 wounded. Ugly enough, but no 40,000 dead.

    • Replies: @Notsofast
  224. @S

    Thank you for this thoughtful analysis, S.
    I just scanned my 2012 diary, my last year (of six) in USA before return to UK. In that year I was offered US citizenship, which I respectfully declined. There was just too much writing on the wall, too many ominous stormclouds, too many warnings being laughed at by most (if not all) Americans, too much blatant immorality. The City of Destruction (Pilgrim’s Progress) in my mind.
    I shared this thought with another Christian and he thought it reasonable … but, you know, after all, it is America … the mighty … others were not so sure and one lady confided to me that America is under God’s curse for persistent immorality.

    Perhaps (I don’t know) this lady would find disfavour for such a view, because it was my strong impression that Americans worship America. Not just simple patriotism, but a level of adoration that was/is inexplicable. Bonehead politicians were revered for emitting the most banal crap that in Europe would get them laughed out of town.
    More recently see MAGA.

    At Reformed churches, I became unsure if I was in a synagogue. All the claptrap was fervently believed, greatest ally, holocaust, evil nazi’s. One person had a blue and white theme throughout his house to show respect for Israel. Bombing VN was great. No knowledge, just emotion. Though there were exceptions, I could no longer live among such people. I have never returned.

    The disaster of America is an amazing phenomenon … Too big to fail, but failing … it is not others that are to blame, but Americans themselves.
    Let us hope they can somehow turn it round.

    • Thanks: JWalters
    • Replies: @emerging majority
    , @S
  225. Notsofast says:
    @Patrick McNally

    thanks for further fixing it for him.

  226. Wokechoke says:
    @tetrachord

    The nature of the Soviet Union was radical equalitarianism in the form of a dictatorial communism. I’m not comfortable with that being endlessly connected to the behaviour of a national Russian state led by an ethnic Russian. Stalin was a Georgian, Kruschev a Ukranian. When Russian stated to actually lead the state as the figure head you get guys like Gorbachev or Yeltsin…this is not Trotsky leading the Red Army nor is it Stalin dominating the scene. If you look back you get Czars like Alexander who fought the extraordinary despotism of Napoleon were the Arussians did liberate a cowed continental Europe. It’s a mixed bag.

  227. @emerging majority

    No, it does not trouble me. I think that Russia takes right course of action now which I support wholeheartedly. That does not mean, however, that she was not a genuine aggressor in the past. Tsar Alexander, for one, was a true tyrant. To say otherwise is to display, at best, historical ignorance.

    • Disagree: matzahballsgonewrong
    • Replies: @emerging majority
  228. JWalters says:
    @emerging majority

    Thanks for those thoughts. We seem to be pretty much on the same wavelength. If you haven’t seen it, you might enjoy this recent discussion of Jefferson’s personal and public view.
    “Jefferson and Hemings: On Slavery, Race, and Love”
    https://mariannewilliamson.substack.com/p/jefferson-and-hemings-on-slavery?utm_source=url

  229. @Avery

    According to your twisted logic Putin’s a dove only because he did not kill those Iraqi children? What about 400 children he killed in Beslan, thousands of Chechen women and children in two wars, chemical attacks in Syria?

  230. @tetrachord

    History could play a role in the attitude of countries towards each other. However that is not the case with the present day Poland. The poor Poles think that they would get more acceptance from the West the more they demonstrated an exaggerated degree of hatred towards their slavic brothers, the Russians. It is just like a silly male believing that hating or belittling women would endear him to the members of a macho club he has just joined.

  231. @Notsofast

    If it were not for the biological warfare that the Soviets unleashed on the German army in the fall of 1941, it would have been all over for Stalin before Christmas. At some point the German casualties from the disease were much higher than death from battle injuries.

    • Replies: @Kurt Knispel
  232. @matzahballsgonewrong

    You Matz have certainly gone wrong?!

    Your mother?:

    You seem to be one of those brazen and quite violent Antifa boys living by mother, missing a father and getting money through Ferkel’s & Anetta Kahane’s Amadeu Antonio Foundation paid for by German tax slaves to be even more dishonered and further Stockholm syndromed?

    Or are you in Jo Greeez’ 1000 bucks Hass program for one hour mischief a day?
    Your LOLing shows your disposition and your dire need of a lolly and extra attention.
    LOL?

    • Replies: @matzahballsgonewrong
  233. Petermx says:

    “The far right neo-Nazis” in Ukraine have passed a law banning “anti-Semitism” there which should ensure no Ukrainian will dare accuse the Jews of killing millions of Ukrainians before the war. I would expect the expression “Judeo-Bolshevism”, among many other things including honoring their national hero Stepan Bandera to be criminalized also. “The far right neo-Nazis” did the same thing after they killed the Czar and his family and created the Soviet Union in 1917. They passed a law banning “anti-Semitism” and another law banning Christianity.

    http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=62898

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  234. @Kurt Knispel

    Kurt Knispel (20 September 1921 – 28 April 1945) was a Sudeten German Heer panzer loader, gunner and later commander, and was the highest scoring tank ace of World War II with a total of 168 confirmed tank kills;[1] the actual number, although unconfirmed, may be as high as 195.[1] He is counted with Johannes Bölter, Ernst Barkmann, Otto Carius and Michael Wittmann as being one of the, if not the, greatest tank ace of all time.
    Would you mind explaining why you chose this guy as your “pen name” here?
    Something does not seem right here.

    • Replies: @Kurt Knispel
  235. @Been_there_done_that

    Much of “international law” was enacted by regimes which were already under control of the Bank\$ter cabal, headquartered in City of London, with Wall \$treet as its primary coordinate. So when alleged international law is often determined by victors in various bank\$ter devised wars on behalf of the WarDefense industry prime investments; then we have a problem, Houston.

    You appear to be a linear, literalist thinker with a definite lack of holistic right-brain input. Many such are to be found who have been edjumacated beyond their capacity for discovering their own senses of balanced minds.

  236. @Arthur MacBride

    Reformed churches are an excellent locus to discover the undying tendrils of Calvinism. Calvin was a horrid human who became dictator of Geneva, where he happily burned dissidents at the stake. He gave the Spanish Inquisition a fun run for the money.

    One of the chief strains of Old Testicles Calvinism in America were the Puritan settlers at Plymouth Rock. They called themselves “Pilgrims”, but in fact they were tyrannical religious fanatics who even named their children with horrid names drawn from egregious books like Leviticus.

    As a man with religious connexions, you may quail at my terminology descriptive of that book of Bronze Age Hebiru nomads, allegedly having “escaped from Egypt”. If you conduct a proper exegetical study of the book of Genesis, you should discover that in older maps, many of the place-names cited there are located in southern Arabia, neighboring on Yemen.

    There are three rather distinct types of seemingly related phenomena: Mythology, Myths and Mythopoetical presentation. The ancient Hebiru created almost nothing by themselves, rather they took their myths from Ancient Egypt and from the Fertile Crescent—such as Hammurabi’s Code. According to my exegetical research, much of the Proverbs were “borrowed” from the Egyptians. You are probably quite aware that the Septuagint was assembled by some 70 rabbis working for a couple of years in ca. 200 B.C. in Hellenistic Alexandria, which was at that time the primary locus of Hebrew theology.

    On a personal level I cannot consider myself a Christian as Constantine’s book was created by a consortium of “bishops” who worked for many months on various scriptures and scrolls and not only edited these but also redacted and interpolated broadly. I do consider myself as a Jesusite, after having read the “apocryphal” book of Thomas, who emphasized Jesus as a spiritual way shower, rather than as the focus of vicarious atonement.

    As you appear to be quite conversant with Pilgrim’s Progress, you might find some familiarity in Canterbury Tales by Chaucer which includes this timeless quote “If the gold is tarnished, what will the iron be”? That, to me perfectly describes the current climate in America, particularly the Di\$trict of Corruption, where at least over the past 40-50 years, instead of the cream rising to the top, as was not unusual into the 70’s; more recently it has been the scum.

    But do take heart, as of this morning America’s own “Freedom Convoy” is currently leaving in the form of some 300 vehicles from Adalanta, California for Arizona, the first leg on the way to that den of innumerable iniquities. Meanwhile, during their 30 days of national lockdown, the good people of Canada, mostly drawn from the working-class, but including a fair marbling of professionals, et al are working to “find a way to pull money out of the system” under the slogan of “exit the system”. This will hit the enemies of humanity right where it hurts, right in their moneybag.

    • Thanks: Mevashir, Arthur MacBride
    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @Mevashir
  237. @tetrachord

    Tsar Nicholas I was the true tyrant. His polar opposites were Alexander II and III, who abolished serfdom and under the thoughtful guidance of Count Sergei Witte, created a national climate of Renaissance-level creativity and intellectual growth and splendor in the arts. Assassination by alleged “anarchists” , likely financed by agents of Perfidious Albion (much like the hidden support for the Antifa fanatics in America today) ended the noble efforts of those noble Tsars, resulting in the accession to the throne of the somewhat hapless Nicholas II, who with his family was butchered by Khazarian Red terrorists at Ekaterinburg.

    • Replies: @matzahballsgonewrong
  238. Mevashir says:
    @emerging majority

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM_fXSFsA9g&t=1s
    This Israeli guy advocates buying gold and silver instead of trying to withdraw cash. He says that a run on banks will simply force government to close the banks. But he claims there’s no limit to using your debit card to purchase bullion. He doesn’t address the problem of where to store physical gold/silver and how to utilize it for daily transactions. Not sure what to think.

    • Replies: @Petermx
  239. Mevashir says:
    @emerging majority

    That, to me perfectly describes the current climate in America, particularly the Di\$trict of Corruption, where at least over the past 40-50 years, instead of the cream rising to the top, as was not unusual into the 70’s; more recently it has been the scum.

    Eloquently stated. Or as they say, flies are drawn to both honey and shit.

  240. Mevashir says:
    @Petermx

    The far right neo-Nazis” did the same thing after they killed the Czar and his family and created the Soviet Union in 1917. They passed a law banning “anti-Semitism” and another law banning Christianity.

    Are you being facetious? Are all movements the same (right vs left) so long as they are dominated by Jews?

    • Replies: @Petermx
  241. @matzahballsgonewrong

    Everything seems in vain with your species – poison green red fascists – at this point in time.
    But – my boy – I will keep on aiming for you too and hoping you will find your father in truth – in the right.

  242. Petermx says:
    @Mevashir

    Yes, I’m being facetious. I think the author is an idiot for saying the US supported “Far-right Neo-Nazis in Ukraine (Ukrainian Security Services, Azov Special Operations Detachment)” when the Ukrainian president is a Jew and Ukraine is dominated by Jews, as is made clear by them passing a law against “anti-Semitism”. The US gave money to the Jewish led government, not Ukraine’s army.

    I also take issue with Pepe Escobar’s statement in his latest article that “Moreover, the people of Donbass do not want to be subjected to a regime harboring neo-Nazis.” I think many Ukrainians would reply that they don’t want to be subjected to a regime harboring commies or their supporters, or they would not have welcomed the German army as liberators when they arrived in 1941, while the Judeo-Bolshevik regime had killed 8 million Ukrainians over the preceding years.

    • Agree: Mevashir
    • Replies: @Mevashir
  243. Petermx says:
    @Mevashir

    That’s true. You can’t use it for every day transactions. You could store it at home or you can store it at a company that will hold your gold for you in their vault. Many people do that. You have to pay a fee every year. It cost me \$245 last year.

    You can buy the gold from here:
    https://www.europac.com/schiffgold/

    This is another way you can buy gold and they won’t charge you a storage fee from this operation in Australia but you will not have actual gold held for you. Your money will be used to purchase gold in your name but it won’t be physically held for you in a vault. Peter Schiff says it is a reputable firm and a safe way to own gold. And there is no storage fee.

    https://www.moneymetals.com/

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  244. Mevashir says:
    @Petermx

    …the Ukrainian president is a Jew and Ukraine is dominated by Jews, as is made clear by them passing a law against “anti-Semitism”. The US gave money to the Jewish led government, not Ukraine’s army.

    I was part of a Hasidic group in Israel that traveled every year to the rebbi’s grave in Ukraine for the Jewish New Year. Here are some posts I wrote about Jewish influence on and control of Ukraine based on that limited perspective:

    https://www.unz.com/article/russia-ukraine-et-al-what-next/?showcomments#comment-5130405
    https://www.unz.com/article/russia-ukraine-et-al-what-next/?showcomments#comment-5130977

    • Replies: @Petermx
  245. Mevashir says:
    @Petermx

    Didn’t FDR ban private gold holdings? Didn’t he close the banks? What’s to stop the government from raiding companies that serve as vaults for private bullion owners? I don’t think anything is assured these days.

    • Replies: @Petermx
  246. Cookie says:

    If the West are so concerned about the Ukrainian situation then the situation can be solved quite easily by the U.N agreeimg to send peacekeepers.

    All the Ukrainian government has to do is ask for them, why haven’t they?

    The U.S would be aware of such a tactic and would advise the Ukrainian government…unless they want conflict?

    The last two years has been very profitable for the pharmaceutical “elites”, could this be the energy “elites” turn as they fall over each other to fill the Russian void…at a premium of course.

    Is this the new profit making “crises” model, now who profited from crisis in the past?

  247. Petermx says:
    @Mevashir

    Thanks. I read your comments.

  248. @emerging majority

    Wow, so much venom regarding things that happened 150 years ago 15,000 away from your home country. You really don’t give a s*\$t about those Russians, do you? All you care is having a family, a home, cheap gas and a comfy job. Then go out and fight for it.

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  249. Petermx says:
    @Mevashir

    You’re right. If things get bad enough maybe they will seize people’s gold. They could also seize your bank account like they are doing in Canada now if you help the truckers. Yes, many years ago FDR banned owning gold but you can own gold now, for many years already – decades, at least since the 70’s. If you don’t want to put it in a vault or hold it at your home contact the people at the second link I gave you. It’s in Australia and they hold it in your name.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  250. Mevashir says:
    @Petermx

    I am in no position to buy gold or silver. If I can manage to pay off my \$800 credit card balance I will be more than happy. Beyond that I have what I need to survive on. For which I am grateful.

    The Bible teaches that material possessions cause anxiety and frustration to their owners. I can appreciate the worry that people have about how to manage and safeguard their wealth. I have no idea how they should do it. Given the behavior of governments around the world during the covid scandemic, destroying civil liberties and livelihoods, I don’t doubt for a second that they can snatch private gold and silver Holdings, cryptocurrency, along with conventional Bank accounts. Nothing is safe from ZOG predators.

    This is something I wrote presenting a policy to cripple Zionist control over America:

    [MORE]

    https://www.unz.com/article/out-thought-out-bought-out-fought-why-the-9-11-truth-movement-failed/?showcomments#comment-4973403

    GOD BLESS PRESIDENT PUTIN:
    https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/history-points-to-the-us-as-perpetrator-of-crisis-in-ukraine/#comment-5188848

    THE FOLLOWING ARE SOME COMMENTS I JUST EMAILED TO A FRIEND, WHO IS AN ELDERLY LEADER IN THE AMERICAN JEWISH COMMUNITY, A FIERCE CRITIC OF ZIONISM, BUT ALSO COMMITTED TO THE SO-CALLED DEMOCRATIC VALUES OF AMERICA. HE WORRIES THAT PUTIN IS A NEO-STALINIST AND CANNOT STAND THE MAN. I WROTE THE FOLLOWING:

    DEAR A,

    I guess you were shocked and upset that I admit to admiring Putin. Part of it is because I have embraced Christianity and you have not and I see him as a champion of true Christian faith.

    But the other part is I see him as the only person who can stand up against abusive Zionist and Jewish neocon power. I was living in Israel in 2005 when Putin came on his State visit. He completely shocked the Israelis by spending 24 hours in the country doing the following. He spent 15 minutes at the Western Wall, 30 minutes with the knesset, refused to go to yad vashem, and spent 4 hours in a meeting with the Russian Orthodox patriarch of Jerusalem. And then he jetted home. The Israeli media was in shock.

    I was amazed at his chutzpah. He was able to demonstrate to the Israelis that he has his own interests and agenda in the Middle East and they are not going to swallow him up. For better or worse, this is the only kind of person the Israelis can respect. They fear Putin and that acts as a modest restraint on their otherwise intolerable behavior.

    All the people in the West that cater to the Israelis sending them money and weapons and constantly apologizing for them in different political forums the Israelis actually loathe them in their hearts. Like any bully they hate the people who are weak and cower before them and they respect the people who will smash them in the face as they deserve.

    All of your writings on behalf of the Palestinians and bemoaning Israeli atrocities have done zero to help the Palestinians. The Israelis encroach more and more every day. The Israelis like nothing more than Jewish people to wring their hands in existential angst while the Israelis callously and brutally advance their agenda on the ground.

    Now as far as Putin’s own behavior. I don’t know if it’s true that he kills journalists. But I do know that since the fall of the Soviet Union the US has lied and reneged on every promise made to the Russians. We have surrounded them by military bases, we’ve encroached NATO Eastward onto their borders, we positioned rockets right near their territory claiming they’re for the Iranian threat which is probably a lie. We have 30 illegal bioweapons factories scattered around the world, many of them in former Soviet republics. The Russians have seen what we did in the name of democracy and freedom to Iraq Afghanistan Libya and Syria. They resolved not to allow us to rape and destroy them as we have done to so many other countries in the world.

    I think Putin considers his country to be in a state of war ever since the 9/11 Zionist terrorist charade. He’s very carefully marshaled his strength planned his strategy built up his resources. In a situation of war, as I am sure you know, leaders have to resort to cruel behavior. You probably admire FDR for standing up to Hitler. FDR did a lot of unethical and horrible things. He imprisoned the Japanese-Americans in concentration camps. He banned all American organizations that supported Germany and opposed entering the war. He authorized horrendous fire bombings and nuclear attacks on German and Japanese civilian cities. But Jews accept this as the price necessary to stop Hitler. The point is once you resolve to go to war you accept atrocities and cruelties on your side as a necessary price of victory.

    I see Putin, despite flaws, as the only person who can stand up against abusive Zionist Jewish power. Perhaps the difference between us Allan is that you see the Zionists as only abusive in their small territory in the Middle East. But I and many many others see them as the shadow government here in America and ultimately responsible for all the atrocious American foreign policy debacles since September 11th 2001. People like me are rooting for Putin to stand up against the Jewish neocon bully that is ravaging the global community. He is the last best hope for humanity. May God bless him and help him granting him discernment against the satanic foes arrayed against him. Amen

    Here are some comments I posted at Unz. You might want to look at them:

    • Replies: @Petermx
    , @DevilAdvocate
  251. Russia has never attacked anyone in its history???

    Poland 1939

    Afghanistan

  252. S says:
    @Arthur MacBride

    If i didn’t know better I might think you were implying that the United States is Babylon as described in Revelation Chapter 18.

    You could be right.

    You’re obviously quite well informed on the subject of the actual nature of the relationship between the US and Britain (ie Wall Street and the City of London, ‘the special relationship’, etc) as delved into upthread by J Walters in post 42.

    All the same, you may find certain of my archived posts of interest as I delve rather deeply into that sort of thing in a great many of them. So much so, if those posts were to ever be coagulated into a book form (something I have no intention of doing) I might be tempted to call it: The Secret History of the United States and the United Kingdom.

    Hehe!

    Thank you for your thoughtful respomse.

    • Thanks: Arthur MacBride
  253. How would you reconcile the image of Alexander II you depicted with some of the most draconian measures that were introduced, ever, over a subjugated nation? There was an official fight with the Polish language. It was forbidden in all public placed, especially at the schools. Any teaching of Polish history was illegal and punishable by prison. Ten of thousands of people were exiled for life, all Polish institutions (such as most important banks) were dismantled. The execution site in Warsaw–on old military fort–was working overtime. The Poles were to loose any connection with their culture and be russified. This are just a few things for a starter. How enlightened, liberal, Renaissance, intellectual or cultural is it?

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  254. Petermx says:
    @Mevashir

    I wasn’t suggesting you buy gold. You expressed an interest in it and a lot of people would not know how to buy it so I showed you how.

    I agree with your sentiments about Putin but my feelings are a little stronger. The US media lies all the time. They have no shame. The US is a corrupt country and they have no problem committing murder and covering it up. I don’t believe Putin killed anyone as the leader of Russia because the American media are blatant liars that said Trump was a Russian spy for four years. Trump murdered a top Iranian general and the Iranians have not taken revenge for that. Maybe if the US continues its downward spiral they will still take revenge. I didn’t vote for Trump but like he said and many millions of other Americans know, I know the last election was stolen from Trump to put a senile long time politician into power that couldn’t attract more than 100 people to a speech he was delivering (and often he had no more than 15 or 20 people) while Trump would attract 20, 30 thousand or more to speeches, sometimes more than once a day. Also, a lot of evidence was presented showing the election was stolen.

    • Replies: @JR Foley
  255. @The_Masterwang

    I’m not a scholar of Russian history but I imagine that Russia’s immense size is largely due to the same factors that have made Canada an immense country by territory.

    Namely, the territory consists largely of little coveted tundra, thus sparsely populated, and requiring little violent conquest to claim and hold.

    I would bet much more blood has been spent per square acre in fighting over, say, Italy, than Russia.

    Is Canada large because Canadians are a violent people?

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  256. @Mevashir

    Thank you for your openness.
    My best wishes for you.

  257. @matzahballsgonewrong

    Boy!! You win the Big Brass Ring and a ton of free fool’s gold.

  258. @Mario Partisan

    Italy is not a bad choice, but how about Belgium? It’s the highest per-acre/hectare bit of land in all of Europe that’s been fertilized by blood.

    • Replies: @Mario Partisan
  259. @tetrachord

    Like many 19th Century heads of state Alex II was an extreme nationalist, so evidently he tried to integrate the northwestern Slavs (uniformly Catholic) with his Eastern Orthodox Slavs. That only bred resentment, as people tend to be more clinging to their religions, sometimes, than life itself.

  260. idealogus says: • Website

    “We want to remind you that Russia has never attacked anyone throughout its history.” Dmitri Peskov, Kremlin spokesman

    What un epic fail.
    Suddenly the statement just became a lie. After all was allways a lie.
    Russia has just attacked Ukraine.
    And Mr. Serafim, your beloved Putin just said that Ucraine stole land from Poland, Roumania and other country. Basarabia and Cernauti if you remember – because I am from Roumania. My grandparents are alive and remember the last time Rusia never attacked us. It was 24 june 1940 when Rusia attacked Roumania. Long before Germania and Roumania conter-attacked Rusia in 22 june 1941.

  261. @emerging majority

    I think you are right about Belgium, considering it’s size and it’s having been a major part of the WWI western front.

    I chose Italy because “Masterwang” was addressing Russia’s size, which was established in eras long preceding the modern. I was trying to contrast the effort it probably took the medieval czars to hold Siberia, with all the efforts it took various groups to hold Italy – having had in mind Roman-Celtic wars, Gothic-Byzantine wars, Lombard-Byzantine wars, Norman-Moorish wars, Napoleonic wars, Italo-Austrian wars, etc. Perhaps a similar series could be written for Belgium, but I am not as familiar with its history.

    Also, I was thinking Italy because it’s natural environment contrasts well with Russia’s. Italy is a land with temperate climate, sunny, has fertile soil but also easy access to the sea for fishing from any point. It is prime real estate, especially for the pre-modern era. And just as prime real estate fetches a high \$ price, it also fetches a high blood price. Most of Russia not so much.

  262. Peace on Earth. Please sign this call: https://schillerinstitute.nationbuilder.com/convoke an international conference to establish a new security and development architecture for all nations.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  263. peterAUS says:
    @Suzanne Rose

    An excellent initiative.

    Would you, by any chance, know how many of these
    https://www.forbes.com/billionaires/
    signed in?

    Say…..20?
    Or it’s more?

    And, how many of these (still alive, naturally) ?:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_Peace_Prize_laureates#Laureates
    Must be at least 10?!

    Don’t worry.
    If this works we’ll have Peace on Earth.
    If it doesn’t we’ll have the peace all the same. Eternal type of it.

    All good.

  264. JR Foley says:
    @Quartermaster

    American red neck buffoon —low IQ —junior high graduate ?

  265. JR Foley says:
    @Petermx

    So it is not without reason that seasoned political observers looked for outside connections to the recent protests in Ukraine that has, in an almost exact repeat of the 2004 protests, sought to overthrow the elected government of Viktor Yanukovych in order to install Viktor Yuschenko’s political allies. Those connections have not been difficult to find.

    Audio of Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland apparently dictating who the US wanted “in” and “out” of the supposedly grassroots-supported interim government only came as a surprise to those who did not believe Washington or its allies in the Washington Consensus were actively involved with the ongoing protests in the country. As did the revelation of her admission last December that the US had already pumped \$5 billion into the funding of the Ukrainian opposition.

    As did the appearance of confirmed terrorist supporter John McCain at a rally with the leader of the Ukrainian neo-Nazi Svoboda party leader. As did the appointment of a central banker as the interim Prime Minister and his immediate announcement that the country was in talks with the US, EU, and IMF for emergency loans. As did the appearance of a slick new viral propaganda video in English promoting the supposedly grassroots uprising which was immediately exposed as finding its “inspiration” in Council on Foreign Relations member Larry Diamond, who has worked closely with the same N.E.D. and USAid that were linked to the 2004 Orange Revolution.

    In the latest startling revelation, Pando.com has published documents implicating the Omidyar Network in the funding of the current Ukrainian protest movement. The Omidyar Network is the NGO of billionaire Ebay co-founder Pierre Omidyar, who recently set up “First Look” as an outlet for (among others) Glenn Greenwald, Jeremy Scahill and Laura Poitras to selectively publish some of the Snowden document archive, 99% of which continues to be withheld from the public.

    As geopolitical analysts from across the board explain, the Ukrainian coup has been deliberately provoked by outside agents to promote a combination of US, EU, NATO and IMF interests.

    Perhaps more worrying than the interference itself are its potential implications. As Russia’s every move is now being scrutinized for a possible military response to the ongoing crisis, the specter of a larger military operation now hangs over Eastern Europe. Part of the decade-long encirclement of Russia by NATO and deliberate provocations on Russia’s doorstep, this process of brinksmanship now threatens to plunge the region into a war the consequences of which cannot be foreseen, let alone contained.

    As supposedly “progressive” outlets once again scramble to throw their support behind the billionaire oligarchs and NGOs that have helped to destabilize the country, and as neocons unite with neoliberals in their agenda to carve up Ukraine for western interests, it remains to be seen what genuine alternative outlets will stand up against this blatant interference and stand up for the principle that it is up to the Ukrainian people, and no one else, to decide what happens in their coun

  266. JR Foley says:
    @Quartermaster

    Russia has external debt of 17% of GNP –easy to clear. Canada is 1 Trillion in Debt and USA 30 Trillion? Paper is not gold —-one day the balloon is going to pop–when Justine is King In DC.

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