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“Lots of people don’t know what happened yesterday. To put it simply, Biden has forced all Americans working in China to pick between quitting their jobs and losing American citizenship. Every American executive and engineer working in China’s semiconductor manufacturing industry resigned yesterday, paralyzing Chinese manufacturing overnight. One round of sanctions from Biden did more damage than all four years of performative sanctioning under Trump. Although American semiconductor exporters had to apply for licenses during the Trump years, licenses were approved within a month.

With the new Biden sanctions, all American suppliers of IP blocks, components, and services departed overnight – thus cutting off all service [to China]. Long story short, every advanced node semiconductor company is currently facing comprehensive supply cut-off, resignations from all American staff, and immediate operations paralysis. This is what annihilation looks like: China’s semiconductor manufacturing industry was reduced to zero overnight. Complete collapse. No chance of survival.”

Posted at Jordan Schneider’s Twitter account @jordanschnyc from a translated thread at @lidangzzz

The Biden administration intensified its war on China last week when it detonated a thermonuclear bomb at the heart of Beijing’s booming technology industry. In an effort to block China’s access to crucial semiconductor technology, Team Biden announced onerous new export rules aimed at a “comprehensive supply cut-off” of essential semiconductor technology which– according to one analyst– led to an “immediate operations paralysis.” The terror unleashed by the announcement was aptly summarized in a thread posted at Jordan Schneider’s Twitter account from a translated thread at @lidangzzz (See above quote)

Naturally, the Chinese government was blindsided by the draconian new rules which include “all Chinese advanced computing chip design companies” and will undoubtedly “ensure the elimination of all American products and technologies from the entire ecosystem.” The new sanctions regime will likely inflict significant damage on China’s thriving technology industry while causing considerable harm to US partners who were not consulted on the matter. But while the announcement was a complete surprise, it does fit with the much more extensive list of hostile US actions towards China in the last few months. Some of these include:

  1. Multiple US delegations (Nancy Pelosi and other sitting Congressmen) traveled to Taiwan to challenge the One-China policy that has been the cornerstone for normal relations between the two countries for the last 40 years.
  2. Two US warships sail through strait, BBC
  3. US-India maneuvers on the India-China border
  4. The Biden Administration’s persistent determination to provide South Korea with a lethal missile defence system that can be used for offensive purposes and which threatens Chinese security
  5. The relentless strengthening of an “anti-China” coalition
  6. Two U.S. carrier groups conduct exercises in South China Sea
  7. And, now–according to the Financial Times– The EU is being urged to rethink its China policy

While in no way exhaustive, the list should give the reader some sense of the uptick in belligerence that is presently aimed at Beijing. Hectoring China has become a full-time job which is not entirely unexpected as US-China “containment” policy dates back as far as the Cold War. What’s different now –as Biden’s 2022 National Security Strategy indicates– is that the US sees itself in the midst of a “great power struggle” in which the primary enemy is China who is regarded as “the only competitor with both the intent and, increasingly, the capability to reshape the international order.” (NSS) In other words, the Biden administration is admitting that we are at war with China and that we must use any means necessary to prevail in that conflict. As foreign policy analyst Andre Damon recently noted, the NSS is not a strategy for the defense of the Republic but a “blueprint for World War 3”.

Indeed, so containment alone will no longer suffice. What is required is increasingly provocative actions that will help to isolate, vilify and, ultimately, weaken China so that it becomes a “responsible stakeholder” in the “rules-based system”. In other words, Biden seeks a compliant vassal who will click his heels and do as he is told.

Sound familiar?

Biden’s onerous new export rules fit perfectly within this broader strategy of persistent confrontation and hostility. It also jibes with the oft-repeated neoconservative view that there is “no hope of coexistence with China as long as the Communist Party governs the country.” So, once again, we can see that the administration’s attacks on China are not merely designed to “contain” Chinese development but are also aimed at regime change. We believe that the recent ratcheting up of Biden’s Tech War has nothing to do with national security concerns (like “still-emerging fields of artificial intelligence and quantum computing”) but is actually another desperate attempt to preserve Washington’s loosening grip on global power. Here’s how author Jon Bateman summed it up in an article at Foreign Policy Magazine:

“The Bureau of Industry and Security (BIS) announced new… limits on the export to China of advanced semiconductors, chip-making equipment, and supercomputer components. The controls… reveal a single-minded focus on thwarting Chinese capabilities at a broad and fundamental level.... the primary damage to China will be economic, on a scale well out of proportion to Washington’s cited military and intelligence concerns….This shift portends even harsher U.S. measures to come, not only in advanced computing but also in other sectors (like biotech, manufacturing, and finance) deemed strategic. The pace and details are uncertain, but the strategic objective and political commitment are now clearer than ever. China’s technological rise will be slowed at any price.” (“Biden is Now All-In on Taking Out China”, Jon Bateman, Foreign Policy Magazine)

There it is in black and white. The US is going to do whatever it takes to preserve its top spot in the global order “come hell or high water.” And Bateman is right, there will undoubtedly be “even harsher U.S. measures to come, not only in advanced computing but also in other sectors (like biotech, manufacturing, and finance)” And that, of course, means more sanctions and tariffs, more disruption to vital supply-lines, and higher costs for everything. If you thought the war with Russia impacted energy prices, “You ain’t seen nothing yet!” Winding back 40 years of globalization is going to be an excruciating experience tantamount to major dental surgery absent the Novocain. This is from Reuters:

“The U.S. is scrambling to tackle unintended consequences of its new export curbs on China’s chip industry that could inadvertently harm the semiconductor supply chain, people familiar with the matter said….as of midnight Tuesday, vendors also could not support, service and send non-U.S. supplies to the China-based factories without licenses if U.S. companies or people are involved. As a result, even basic items like light bulbs, springs, and bolts that keep tools running may not have been able to be shipped until vendors are granted licenses. And without the minute-by-minute support the foundries need, they could begin shutting down, one source said...

The U.S. planned to review licenses for non-Chinese factories in China hit by the new restrictions on a case-by-case basis, but even if approved that could create delays in shipments. Licenses for Chinese chip factories were likely to be denied.” (“U.S. scrambles to prevent export curbs on China chips from disrupting supply chain“, Reuters)

See what I mean? More supply-line disruption means higher prices, more battered household budgets, and fewer American families able to scrape by on their shrinking wages. Does anyone in Washington think about these things before they set the wheels in motion? The Biden administration is so obsessed with containing China, it is willing to send US standards-of-living off a cliff while bringing the world even closer to nuclear annihilation. Here’s more background from an article at the Asia Times:

The US measures won’t affect China’s sensors, satellite surveillance, military guidance and other strategic systems because the vast majority of military applications use older chips that China can produce at home…..The new US restrictions won’t stop China’s 2,000 surface-to-ship and surface-to-surface missiles from targeting US aircraft carriers in the Western Pacific, or US air bases in Guam and Okinawa, and they won’t prevent China’s more than 1,000 interceptors from aiming long-range air-to-air missiles at US planes…

It will also elicit an all-out Chinese effort to replace American chip-making and design technology. CapEx and R&D will shrink drastically in the US semiconductor industry while China allocates a massive budget to the sector.

On a five- or ten-year horizon, America’s technological edge in semiconductor design and fabrication is likely to vanish. As capital budgets collapse in the Western semiconductor industry, the damage to the US and other Western economies is likely to be greater than the harm inflicted on China...an all-out US ban on chip sales to China would eliminate 37% of the revenue of US semiconductor companies, lead to … the loss of 15,000 to 40,000 highly skilled direct jobs in the US semiconductor industry.”..

At worst, the damage to China’s economy is likely to be temporary… But the impact of the incipient depression in the Western semiconductor industry may well do permanent harm. (“China chip ban a US exercise in extreme self-harm”, Asia Times)

So, it could all backfire like the poorly thought-out sanctions on Russia that have thrust all Europe into an unprecedented energy crisis?

Yep, that’s what he’s saying. The new rules will cause China some short-term pain but—in the long run—they will only hurt American industry. It’s another classic example of ‘cutting off your nose to spite your face’, which appears to be Biden’s MO on a great number of issues.

It’s worth noting, that the Biden plan is another giant leap towards “de-globalization. (which is the reimposing of cross-border trade barriers in order to prevent further economic integration and lower costs.) For decades, business and political leaders have been touting the virtues of offshoring businesses and outsourcing jobs as if that was the true expression of God’s divine plan. But now that China’s growth threatens US global hegemony, foreign policy elites have done a quick 180. Now the globalization genie must be drawn-and-quartered and shoved back into his bottle so the West can preserve its primacy by effectively divorcing itself from the Chinese powerhouse.

By the way, “decoupling” is the new buzzword among foreign policy wonks. What the word implies is that the US must implement “some degree of technological separation from China, but shouldn’t go so far as to harm U.S. interests in the process.” In other words, Washington is on track to selectively terminate many areas of commerce with China while trying not to shoot itself in its own foot.

Good luck with that.

So, where is all of this heading, you ask?

To more conflict, more confrontation, higher prices, lower standards of living and, eventually, a disintegration of the prevailing order. That much is certain. The problem, of course, is that the China hawks now control the levers of power in Washington which means that the attacks on China will intensify, decoupling will accelerate, and a massively-destabilizing international crisis will soon follow.

The Biden administration is squandering American power on unilateral actions it cannot enforce and that will no have meaningful impact on China’s development. They’d be better off looking for ways to ease the transition to a new world, then pathetically trying to turn back the clock to the bygone “unipolar moment”.

 
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  1. Cook says:

    I have always said the country that was most likely to nuke the world is the U.S.

    They have form as shown in WW2 and Japan.

    The U.S is run by gangsters and run a global protection racket, hell they’re not going to share with upstarts…its time for a turf war.

    If parents in the U.S don’t want to see their children die for a bunch of gangsters then its time to remove the scum.

    But I suspect the populace will watch their idiot boxes and wait for permission to act…and will be annoyed when their weekend game -played by physical freaks- is interrupted by an announcement that they have 15 minutes to live!

  2. Anon[268] • Disclaimer says:

    One thing not discussed here. What will be the reaction in the US? Forty thousand jobs lost in the semiconductor industry? Is this to be taken lying down?

    It is not simply the Biden Administration. The entire Democratic Party has been the greatest supporter of Covid scams, Green fantasies, Imperial sanctions against Russia, and covert war against Russia. All of this is not beneficial to the people of the US. Medical tyranny, anti-industrialism, commercial harassment and covert war are only actions of destruction benefiting no one. The exception would possibly those globalists who hope to rule over a feudalistic, impoverished world.

    The Democratic Party has committed treason against the US and made irrational war against the world. This party should be proscribed and abolished, its members of any significance put on trial for war crimes of various sorts, jailed, and in serious cases, executed.

    Who will denounce Biden and the Democrats for treason?

  3. A123 says: • Website

    For decades, business and political leaders have been touting the virtues of offshoring businesses and outsourcing jobs as if that was the true expression of God’s divine plan. But now that China’s growth threatens US global hegemony, foreign policy elites have done a quick 180.

    The Elites have not done a 180° by choice. The American people have realized that they do not need the Elites any more.

    Is this an effort by the Globalists to get back ahead of the issue, to control it? Possibly. However, it is far too late for that manipulation to have any chance.

    “decoupling” is the new buzzword among foreign policy wonks. What the word implies is that the US must implement “some degree of technological separation from China, but shouldn’t go so far as to harm U.S. interests in the process.” In other words, Washington is on track to selectively terminate many areas of commerce with China while trying not to shoot itself in its own foot.

    The other half of the policy is MAGA Reindustrialization. American citizens want to recapture this dream.

     

     

    Obviously it will not be quite that Ozzie & Harriet, but this is the aspirational goal.

    ========================
        Good Jobs at
            Good Wages for
                American Citizens
    ========================

    PEACE 😇

  4. meamjojo says:

    We need the Chinese to return to building railroads for us in the USA.

    Don’t give them any more free tech!

  5. the question I have is why.
    why is the USA implementing sanctions that
    1) lower the US standard of living
    2) disrupt but don’t harm the sanctioned States
    3) weaken the United States in foreign policy

    If the goal is not exclusively to lower the US standard of living (in order to keep wealth expanding for elites while total wealth shrinks),then the sanctions only make sense if followed up by a catastrophic but victorious war in which solely the US will be able to have any sort of economy because the mainland US was spared the violence.
    Alternatively the sanctions might be a form of bluffing where they rely that the adversary will make the same calculus that these sanctions are a prelude to catastrophic war and that the US means serious commitment to war with these sanctions and to avoid war the adversaries will have to be more submissive in the next round of negotiations. A sort of mad dog theory to diplomacy.
    or maybe the reason for the sanctions is a combination of the both, lower standards of living, have a war and keep the economic gains of not being destroyed like the rest of the world in the hands of the elite. in essence hogging the post – world war III economic boom, unlike the post – world war II economic boom that benefited many non elites.

    Do the elites hope for post – world war II levels of economic growth after world war III, while the rest live in depression era levels of misery?

    This also all relies on a United States untouched by world war III. a crazy idea if it intends to trigger a war with the nuclear powers of China and Russia.

  6. Before we offshored manufacturing, Americans had a higher standard of living. I don’t care about unipolar vs multi-polar, but I do want to live in my own country that is run for the well-being of our people. There will be no nice way to bring this about. Millions of people in useless occupations will be displaced, as industrial workers were 40 years ago, but at least we won’t have to beg China to sell us face masks or shoes. Tough for the cubical rats, but they didn’t care when machinists were thrown out of work for the benefit of the stock market.

    #3 A123: Yeah, the corporate vermin might be trying to get in front of the parade and thereby keep their fat pensions. I hope they fail.

    And yes, we ought to keep our navy out of Cheese waters, just as we should keep out of Russia’s back yard. But calling our people home is not an aggressive act. They are free to stay there, forever. And the Chinese are equally free to call all of their people home. I wish they would.

    And how is it that all these tech workers will not be able to get work in this country? When we go back to making our own stuff, there will be plenty of work for them.

  7. MarkU says:

    Even Obama warned people about Biden….

    “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to fuck things up”.

    This is just the latest in a whole range of short-sighted measures (allegedly) intended to hurt the West’s designated enemies which will cause lasting damage to the Western world but only short-term inconvenience to the intended targets.

    If someone had wanted to perform a controlled demolition of the West, it is doubtful that they could have found a more effective way of doing it.

    In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.

    Franklin D. Roosevelt

    Just look at the state of the US these days…

    Thirty one trillion in debt.
    Infrastructure degraded by three decades of neglect.
    An education system where ideologically contrived garbage is prioritised over knowledge.
    Increasing lawlessness, even deliberate enabling of lawlessness.
    Deliberately contrived social conflict.
    Accelerating loss of reserve currency status.
    Streets littered with human faecal matter (even in the third world, shitting in the street is not considered normal)
    Loss of freedom of speech.

    I could go on but I think I have made my point. Europe is hardly better, though they don’t allow shitting in the streets (yet)

    If someone had made a sci-fi film in 1991 set in the America of today, most people would have regarded the setting as too absurd for the required suspension of disbelief. It would undoubtedly have been described as dystopian and most likely interpreted as satirical.

    • Replies: @OrangeSmoke
    , @Tom Welsh
  8. I’m not sure I would have quit. Some brave engineer needs to take Adolph Biden to the Supreme Court.

    • Agree: GMC, Notsofast
  9. @A123

    There is only one reason for “decoupling.” It’s a preparation for war.

    • Agree: Notsofast
    • Replies: @A123
  10. A123 says: • Website
    @Fidelios Automata

    There is only one reason for “decoupling.” It’s a preparation for war.

    Let me Fix That For You:

    There is only one reason for “decoupling”. It *prevents* war.

    Under gradual decoupling and MAGA Reindustrialization

    • The CCP will no longer be able to exploit America, thus losing the capacity for war.
    • Most Americans will no longer want inferior CCP junk, thus no longer having motivation for war.

    CCP Elites, Globalists traitors, and other grifters will try to stop this change. However, it is far too late for the SJW MegaCorporations to put Humpty Dumpty Back Together Again .

    PEACE 😇
    ________

    From: https://www.battleswarmblog.com/?p=52980

    Ziehan:

    “Within about 48 Hours of the policy being adopted last Friday, every single American citizen who was working in China in the industry either quit, or their companies relocated their entire division so they wouldn’t have to lose their staff.”

    “For all practical purposes the Chinese semiconductor industry of everything over Internet of Things level of quality is now dead, and that has a lot more implications than it sounds.”

    “Chinese have proven incapable over the last 25 years of advancing sufficiently [to run the technology required] to operate this industry, beyond being able to simply operate the facilities that make the low end chips, and even that had to be managed by foreigners. So there is no indigenous capacity here to pick this up and move on.”

    “In terms of industrial follow-on, this doesn’t just mean that the Chinese are never going to be able to make the chips that go into cars or computers, it also means that any industry that is dependent upon the hardware dies.”

    China can’t do anything remotely high tech (hypersonic missiles, AI, Great firewall, etc.) without buying chips on the gray market.

    The Bad New Continues for China’s Semiconductor Industry

  11. Hu Xijin: “Honestly, America is running out of moves when it comes to containing China. They’ve made some trouble for us, but those problems have not resulted in the kind of material restraints on China’s development that they were hoping for.

    “As China gets familiar with, and accustomed to, America’s same-old routine, these containment measures aren’t that big of a deal…. What is the US most afraid of? China’s steady development. Why did they say that “the next ten years are critical”? Because they’re afraid that China could overtake them in total GDP in the next ten years. 

    “This makes China’s response to the US’s containment strategy extremely straightforward: we’ll simply keep doing what we’re doing and concentrate wholly on development. Ensuring that we overtake America in economic growth in the long term and continuously strengthening our science and technology abilities are the best answers to America’s containment”. 

  12. China will just get what if needs from one of its largest trading partners — Taiwan.

    • Agree: Biff
    • LOL: meamjojo
    • Replies: @frankie p
  13. Biff says:

    The elites in America dumbed down the public education system generations ago, and there isn’t a semi-intelligent work force left anymore. Now they think they’re going to bring high-tech industry back to a dumbshit American work force?

    Clearly China is holding all the cards.

    • Disagree: Che Guava
  14. meamjojo says:
    @anyone with a brain

    It’s sad that you are not in charge, given how smart you clearly are!

  15. meamjojo says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    XI apologist and fanboy Godfree Roberts quotes a Chinese propagandist as some sort of authority. [lol]
    ———-
    Hu Xijin (Chinese: 胡锡进; born 7 April 1960) is a Chinese journalist and the former editor-in-chief and party secretary of the Global Times, a tabloid under the auspices of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP)’s official People’s Daily newspaper. He has been accused by the western media of being a political propagandist[1][2][3][4] and an early adopter of China’s “wolf warrior” communication strategy of loudly denouncing perceived criticism of the Chinese government and its policies.[5]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hu_Xijin

  16. Thank your catching that!

    I almost embarrassed myself by quoting the opinion of the Editor-in-Chief of the world’s biggest, most trusted newspaper!

    • Replies: @A123
  17. @Biff

    End female suffrage and you’ll get your country back.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  18. Is China Really Socialist?

  19. @Anon

    What fucking semiconductor jobs in the US? The jobs are in China. Mumbo fuckin’ jumbo.

  20. @Graveldips

    Well worded. And this is what the basic system was in the west….based on fairness and rationality. Idiots blame capitalism…..capitalism is the finest system we have. What is needed is capitalism combined with community. Why offshore anything? Ofcouse offshoring began with the IT boom and that eventually led to mass immigration from third world nations.

    A system based on a sense of community(bring back small businesses run locally), a believe in fairness and justice and that’s the way to go. Ofcourse nothing worked out like this. I

    • Replies: @Montefrío
  21. IronForge says:

    Overblown Title.

    DoomPr0n.

    Now, I fault China to be Slack-Arsed for NOT spending the Billions needed to build out their Domestic Semiconductor R&D and Production Capabilities – especially after the 2014 UKRainan Coup and Anti-RUS Sanctions.

    To be fair, I fault RUS/JPN/DEU for sitting on their Arses from pursuing Industrial Self-sufficiency decoupled from the U$D as well.

    Paralyzed? Does the Author think that Everyone Quit?

    What about SMIC? TSMC? CHN/JPN/DEU/RUS/KOR Firms not threatened by Biden?

    From what I gather, SMIC were a few years from catching up to and surpassing TSMC – from the sheer Volumes of Current R&D and Engineers graduating every year.

    I’m certain that Others will fill the Gap. JPN/DEU won’t leave the CHNese Market.

    Sure, Biden pulled off an A-Hole Maneuver; but SMIC+Others were about to crowd out Murican Firms in 3-5 Years ANYWAY – so Brandon’s “Caregivers” are simply “Quitting while ahead” – while giving the most hindrance they can to CHN. A-Holes. Next? AAPL moving their production to Vietnam (VNM).

    CHN are being “decoupled” more from NATO-EU Trade Zones.

    Sniffer Brandon and his Caregivers are taking on RUS, €URoZone(pwned), KSA&OPEC+ – now IND(Politico Propaganda Rants started) and CHN – i.e., SCO+SilkRoad+BRICS+RCEP.

    Compounding Blowbacks expected.

    Because OPEC+, SCO, SilkRoad, BRICS, and RCEP have all the Natural Resources, Energy, Financing, and Food they need to maintain their Higher Rates of Economic Growth.

    The H8_Hegemony don’t Control RUS, OPEC+, and Asia. Brandon is isolating Murica and his €URoZone Vassals…

    • Replies: @Obsequious
  22. james1 says:
    @A123

    You seem to have lost your abilty ( if you ever it) to change your mind when the FACTS change. The above article clearly spelt out that the uSA will lose much more than China. I’ve spent 4 weeks in China some 8 yrs ago & you ain’t seen anything as marvelous as Shanghai –an example of what China has done in a very short time frame. Plus not only Shanghai !

    Idiots who don’t even have a pass port( guessing) should shut up because trying to be a patriotic stupid is really not in your best interests.

    • LOL: showmethereal
  23. anonymous[860] • Disclaimer says:
    @Graveldips

    There’s actually a lot of truth in this. Gender feminists insisted the bra-burning would end when women had “Equality” (code for privilege), but the bra-burning never stopped, and neither did the war against boys and men (white men). White women immolated their own culture, and stripped millions upon millions of American men of their rights as fathers, and of their dreams. And the cu*** still want men to pay the bills, fight the good fight when something goes bump in the night, and take a bullet for their honor. The marriage strike really isn’t a strike: the culture has stripped so much from men they can no longer assume their former role in our pussified society as bread-winners and strong heads of strong households. Frankly, I want MORE suffering for American white females. I want those gang-bangers from Northern Africa or South Africa tearing up cute suburban housewives – the soccer moms who turned and looked the other way and voted for Bill Clinton in the 1990s. I want suffering. These cu*** brought hell to their own society, egged on by shlomo, and it seems fitting they should reap the whirlwind.

    • Agree: TKK
  24. The idea could be to force China to annex Taiwan, to fulfil its semiconductor needs.

    • Agree: Bro43rd
    • Replies: @antibeast
    , @Notsofast
  25. Miro23 says:

    If Japan, Taiwan and South Korea see which way the wind is blowing, this would be a fine opportunity to choose China over the US. IOW they could step in and assist China in advanced chip design/ manufacturing.

    The US alliance is causing them more trouble than it’s worth with prospects of getting much worse.

    • Agree: Sarah
  26. anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:

    Listening to Trump bawl about how much he’s done for the very Jews who have tried to destroy him makes me realize that Costa Rica might not be such a bad place to live. The leadership in the United States is irreparably perverse. The country is too far gone to be righted, and now they’re killing us with a clot shot. It’s a nation without a future.

    • Replies: @Montefrío
  27. Brute stupid force is all that’s left. The world is better off without the US. Let’s boycott everything they export and stand for, and speed up their demise.

  28. @Graveldips

    There will be work for those tech workers? Of course. But what kind of work? Well, being engineers I guess they already know how to code.

    You need to understand the US government basically ruined their lives. And creating a pool of highly educated, destitute people is not good for any regime that wants to stay in power.

    This plan hinges on the assumption that semiconductor is a technology so advanced and complicated only the superior White race can master it.

    But the transistor wasn’t invented by Whites.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Graveldips
  29. A123 says: • Website
    @Godfree Roberts

    XI apologist and fanboy Godfree Roberts quotes a Chinese propagandist as some sort of authority. [lol]
    ———-
    Hu Xijin (Chinese: 胡锡进; born 7 April 1960) is a Chinese journalist and the former editor-in-chief and party secretary of the Global Times, a tabloid under the auspices of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP)’s official People’s Daily newspaper.

    I almost embarrassed myself by quoting the opinion of the Editor-in-Chief of the world’s biggest, most trusted newspaper!

    So…

    Are you admitting that the Chinese proletariat are Sheeple? They lack the intellectual capability to challenge bourgeoisie elite CCP propaganda?

    This would explain the ineptness of the CCP’s State Owned Enterprises. They are incapable of operating even mid-tier semiconductor fabs without foreign staffing.
    ___

    There is another possibility…

    The Chinese proletariat have acute survival instincts. The do not trust political issue pollsters. Fearing authoritarian surveillance (including social credit scores), the safe choice is providing poll answers about media believability that conform to the results desired by the bourgeoisie CCP elites.
    ___

    While India based journalism about China has its own, unsubtle bias. This piece shows that there is a significant gap between what the Chinese working class:

    • Say on the record to government media and pollsters
    • Do when they can avoid authoritarian controls

    “Actions speak louder than words”, Anthony of Padua, ~1,200 AD.

    PEACE 😇

  30. Karl1906 says:

    These people in charge only have one “strategy” – doubling down and upping the ante. It worked for them against their domestic opposition. Because they own all of the media and social networks.

    But this is not the whole world. Not even the majority of it. Hopefully, this will stop with the failure of their unipolar nightmare.

    Which is still in the stages of going full nightmare – for us. The rest of the world may sit it out. Alas, we here in Europe and the US are in the front row suffering from these violent, greedy and moronic lunatics.

    • Agree: Fred777
    • Replies: @Montefrío
  31. ‘Stupid is as stipid does.’

    Stultis 💣Americanus💰

    • Replies: @SeekerofthePresence
  32. @meamjojo

    “He has been accused by the western media of being a political propagandist [1][2][3][4]…”

    LMAO

  33. @SeekerofthePresence

    Should be ‘Stultus.’ Sorry, late nite false letter correction by modern software which has no fondness for Latin.

  34. @anyone with a brain

    This also all relies on a United States untouched by world war III

    US interests have no bearing on the decisions being made in Washington. The Khazar conspiracy–the supreme power in the United States–behind the simultaneous provocations against Russia and China seek the destruction of all three.

    https://www.unz.com/book/douglas_reed__the-controversy-of-zion/

    • Agree: inspector general
  35. After thirty years of transferring factories and jobs to China, (((DemonRats))) finally woke up to reality that expired years ago.
    Better late than never does not apply anymore, we are doomed.

  36. @meamjojo

    We need the Chinese to return to building railroads for us in the USA.

    Today, the railroads is called “5G!”

    5G, as I argued in my 2020 book You Will Be Assimilated: China’s Plan to Sino-Form the World, is the railroad of the 21st century – a carrier technology whose importance lies in the other technologies it makes possible.

    https://asiatimes.com/2021/05/us-is-chasing-chinas-tail-on-5g/

    • LOL: Thim
  37. Behind all these aggressive policies, and the constant Western MSM sewer regurgitation of hatred and racist contempt aimed at China, lies race and cultural hatred. Those constants of Western behaviour since the days of the Bronze Age, xenophobia, aggression and blood-lust, on steroids.
    Simply stated the Brandon regime and its Zionazi apparatchiki will destroy the human world rather than lose their position as Top Dogs. China does not even wish to dominate the world-that is Western behaviour. They wish to live in harmony with other States, a situation that is anathema to the Western ‘Gods Upon the Earth’.
    Moreover the ultimate aim is NOT to reduce China to a stooge State. That is impossible for racial and civilizational reasons. No matter how many half Japanese lesbians the USA can conjure up to rule a puppet State, the Chinese will, under the weight of thousands of years of living differently from the hyper-aggressive psychopaths of the West, revert to Chinese type.
    Therefore the plain aim, seen in US subversion (there is NO such subversion by China of the USA, needless to say)efforts targeting Taiwan, Hong Kong, Tibet, Xinjiang, ‘South’ Mongolia etc, is to smash China into fragments, killing as many Chinese as possible, and set it back decades, or even centuries. This is Ultimate Evil working as it always has done.

  38. @Godfree Roberts

    China has had the world’s largest economy, in PPP terms, since 2014.It is not as heavily financialised as the USA, is the most productive economy on Earth and the world’s greatest trading nation by far. Chinese wages are steadily growing, while in the USA median wages have stagnated for forty years. The USA’s last strength is MURDER.

    • Replies: @Rev. Spooner
  39. @A123

    Perhaps you are Zeihan. His racist arrogance and stupidity, and rabid Sinophobia, mirror yours, but that’s Zionazism after all. All hatred, all the time.

  40. El Dato says:

    Europe is over, it’s now a fully control shithole of the USA, a bit like El Salvador with currently still some industry.

    • Replies: @cohen
  41. Semiconductor manufacturing and the tools to manufacturing these semiconductors, the intellectual carpet bag as developing (as in is it indeed still a mostly Western asset), are they a capable tool for asymmetrical warfare? It seems to be a real proposition.

    Let’s see how this turns out. In case the above is real, there is unforgivable neglect by the Chinese System, they (Chinese) were hoovering their noses over the process, and were on own territory and terms for decades. If the capacity of China in semiconductor production is exclusively dependent of foreign control, that would be another show of nation states (the biggest ones) being under control of a territory agnostic elite with global ambitions.

    • Replies: @Gerhard57NL
  42. @MarkU

    While I agree with your comments on the degradation of the country by this Biden regime, it’s laughable to think that Biden is actually making any decisions. In the first year of the Biden regime I could not understand how they could allow Antifa/BLM riots and destruction while claiming the greatest threat was “white supremacy (unsaid but implied was “white Christian supremacy”). However, after reading up on Herbert Marcuse and his Frankfurt School gang it all made sense. The people behind Biden are Marxist Jews who are following the rebranded form of Marxism promoted by Marcuse. Censor or ban speech by conservatives, use the New Proletariat (ghetto blacks & sexual degenerates) to destroy the family and societal structure. All key positions in the Biden regime are controlled by far leftist Jews that are reading from the Frankfurt School playbook or maybe Norm Eisen’s U.S. color revolution. It’s not an exaggeration to say this regime is an existential threat to the republic.

  43. The recent move against the Chinese semiconductor industry and the destruction of the Nord Stream pipelines clearly show that America is losing its grip on power. I saw in the news a few weeks back a UN representative from Honduras or Nicaragua, well somewhere in Central America told the US to STFU basically. It was a clear sign to me that things are changing. A new world order is likely to form out of BRICS and the Shanghai Cooperation Agreement. I fully expect Europe to eventually jump ship (likely after their pending EU collapse). A fellow classmate in my master’s program in Russia asked me if I planned to return to the US after graduation and I flat out said no. The bubble that is America has been popped, welcome to the real world y’all.

    • Agree: nokangaroos
    • Thanks: GMC
  44. mike99588 says:
    @meamjojo

    Chinese certainly would be willing to build railroads in America (at least pre 2021) – they’ll own the railroad or you – in a debt trap.

  45. frankie p says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    Carlton,

    I live in Taiwan, and it is absolutely UNTHINKABLE that the government here would prohibit citizens from working in the semiconductor industry in China. There are SO MANY Taiwanese working in that industry, making big bucks compared to the shitty salaries they made at TSMC.

    The US has blown a fuse. The bulk of US citizens working in the Chinese semiconductor industry are DUAL citizens of China/USA or Taiwan/USA. Shit can the US citizenship is my advice. Australian or Canadian citizenship is cheaper, and the tax burden much lighter.

    • Agree: showmethereal
    • Replies: @Avery
  46. This is good news in the long run. China needed a kick in the pants to start applying themselves in the semiconductor arena. Now they will be forced to, and they will end up dominating the industry. Goodbye tscm, Nvidia, Intel, etc.

  47. Levtraro says:

    Winding back 40 years of globalization is going to be an excruciating experience tantamount to major dental surgery absent the Novocain.

    Well, globalization was excellent for Russia, China, Germany, India, and many others lesser powers, but primarily, it was good for the super rich in America, so logically at the end of the process, it was bad for America. Whatever is good for the super rich in America, is bad for America as a whole. So globalization needs to be reverted. The games played by American politicians are way more important that the greed of the American super rich.

  48. Mevashir says:
    @Anon

    This is what I sent out to Jewish family members and Friends yesterday regarding reports about an MIT professor saying we now have a one in six chance of a nuclear war between Russia and America:

    There’s only one man responsible for this pending calamity: The Moron in Chief Biden.

    His provocation of Russia via his Ukraine proxy has caused global food shortages, massive inflation, and growing likelihood of nuclear war.

    It’s fearful to think that this man, who can barely utter a coherent sentence and who shakes hands with shadows, has nuclear launch authority.

    The final responsibility for all this is with the DNC, that pushed Biden to the forefront against the wish of Democratic primary voters, and with Biden’s warmongering Jewish neocon advisers (like Victoria Nuland and her husband Robert Kagan), who hate all things Russian and who promoted the bogus war on [of] terror after the 9/11 Zionist Terrorist false flag attacks. Together with their Moron in Chief we have Winken Blinken and Nod. (Trump was correct all along to call him sleepy Joe, who is sleepwalking all of us over the cliff to global nuclear holocaust.)

    MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON US ALL!!

    A Jewish acquaintance wrote me the following:
    “Please do not send this to us. We do not agree with you and are appalled at the kind of “thinking” it reflects.”
    My response to their pathetically willful blindness:
    “You can be appalled as your flesh melts off your body when the east coast is nuked by Russian submarines.”

    • Replies: @brostoevsky
  49. The Government can’t take your citizenship away from you!

    U.S. citizens (or nationals) can never be stripped of their U.S. citizenship (or nationality), with limited exceptions.

    1. voluntarily perform any of seven “expatriating” acts defined by law, and
    2. perform the act or acts with a conscious desire (or specific intent) to abandon (relinquish) nationality.

    Becoming a naturalized citizen of another country after age 18.
    Formally declaring allegiance to a foreign government after age 18.
    Accepting a position in the government of another country after age 18, if one has citizenship in, or declared allegiance to, that country.
    Joining the military force of another country either (1) in any capacity if that country is engaged in hostilities against the U.S., or (2) as an officer.
    Formally renouncing U.S. nationality abroad before a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer.
    Formally renouncing U.S. nationality in the U.S. when the U.S. is at war, if done in writing and with the approval of the U.S. Department of Justice.
    Being convicted of treason or participating in any attempt to overthrow the U.S. government.
    The first five acts become effective only after the person who commits them has left the United States. The procedures for the sixth act (renunciation in the U.S.) have not yet been defined.

    The act must be accompanied by a specific intent to relinquish U.S. nationality.

    For all the acts listed above, it is not enough to appear to commit the act—even voluntarily—to lose U.S. nationality; the person must also commit the act in order to relinquish the nationality.

    https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/when-us-citizens-can-lose-us-citizenship.html

    • Thanks: Brás Cubas, follyofwar
  50. @Anon

    If this doesn’t convince the Chinese that USA is planning to go to war with China nothing will. China better stop procrastinating and help Russia. If Russia loses China will be easy to take down. United they stand, it will soon be China’s turn to be attacked and Russia will likely only extend the same amount of help that they have received which till now appears very little apart from some verbal support.

    • Replies: @Fred777
    , @Son of a Jedi
  51. @Godfree Roberts

    China has already overtaken the USA in functional GDP ages ago. If we disinclude parasitic and non-functional contributors to GDP, like finance charges, usury payments, camwhore websites, etc. then China is already above the USA.

    • Agree: Realist
  52. Mevashir says:
    @A123

    Just a few years ago China was the primary trading partner of your buddies in Israel. And only Pompeo’s extortionist threats changed that situation. So who are you really working for?

  53. antibeast says:
    @meamjojo

    That’s a logical fallacy called ‘attacking the messenger’. You should try debunking his statement that the USA had tried but failed to ‘contain’ the rise of China. Was he right or wrong? That is the question, not whether he is working for the CCP or not.

    My view is that the US Deep State is resorting to criminal acts of industrial sabotage which are desperate moves of a declining power. They serve no purpose but to disrupt the global industrial supply-chains of the world’s electronics manufacturing industries which are centered in China. The biggest beneficiary of these desperate moves is none other than Taiwan. After all, Taiwanese companies manufacture most of the semiconductor chips used in the world today, including China. They’ll end up designing the semiconductor chips to replace the American-designed ones that they manufacture today but are now banned by Biden. The end-result: US semiconductor companies are expected to lose their Chinese market share to Taiwanese semiconductor companies.

    And remember, Taiwan will eventually reunify with the mainland because it is legally a part of China.

  54. Bro43rd says:

    This is the US attempting to prod China to take Taiwan, thus giving the US a reason to defend it. A case of fatal hubris imo. I’m cheering any action that takes US down a notch but fearful b/c the US is like a cornered rabid animal, not behaving rational.

  55. Tom Welsh says:
    @MarkU

    “If someone had made a sci-fi film in 1991 set in the America of today, most people would have regarded the setting as too absurd for the required suspension of disbelief”.

    Robert A. Heinlein was offering remarkably familiar descriptions of what he called “the Crazy Years” back in the early 1950s.

  56. @A123

    The world’s biggest, richest, most profitable banks are Chinese SOEs, as are the world’s biggest, richest utilities. SOEs are not only highly profitable, they are also employment sinks that hire millions of staff when jobs are scarce. SOEs provide the world’s cheapest financial services, electricity, gas, and water.

    Profits of Chinese SOEs surge 30.1 pct in 2021. ecns.cn›news/2022-01-26/detail-…21 September. The combined profits of China’s state-owned enterprises (SOEs) surged 30.1 percent year on year to nearly 4.52 trillion yuan (about 715 billion U.S. dollars) in 2021, official data showed Wednesday. The SOEs raked in 75.55 trillion yuan in their operating revenue last…
    Missing: rise

    The Chinese are smarter than us, much better educated, and more widely traveled, and have 60,000,000 relatives living abroad so they know what’s going on. They are mature enough to know that mass communications require monitoring and honest enough to explain why and how they do it. If you don’t like a ruling you can demand an explanation and, since the Chief Censor is like our Noam Chomsky, his explanations are pretty convincing.

    Private censor YouTube’s moderation policy on elections, per Matt Taibbi:

    Under this policy, any discussion (say, by Hillary Clinton) of Florida 2000, where Jebbie purged the voter rolls in an MR SUBLIMINAL Bud from Legal insists I say “apparent,” here effort to hand the state to his brother who was running for President at the time would be demonetized.

    Chinese people overwhelmingly favor public censorship with published rules, and so would any sensible person.

    The anti-Xi banners didn’t go viral because non-Chinese can’t read them and real, existing Chinese saw that they were written by an illiterate kindergartner. That’s why the banner was left up so long.

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
    • Troll: A123
    • Replies: @Hulkamania
  57. @Cook

    I wouldn’t be surprised to see a false flag U.S. initiated nuclear attack somewhere around Europe in the near future (blamed on Russia).
    It’s quite easy to make vague calls to action for how to get a change in direction from those who rule without being clear as to how to implement this change. Can you be specific as to how you would go about achieving your goals (rhetorical question as we both know you would be ill advised to answer)?

    • Replies: @Realist
  58. antibeast says:
    @Old Brown Fool

    The idea could be to force China to annex Taiwan, to fulfil its semiconductor needs.

    Methinks it is the other way around. Let me explain:

    As the home of the world’s largest electronics manufacturing industries, China is the biggest market for the semiconductors chips fabricated in Taiwan. There is no way that China is going to kill the goose that lays its golden eggs. Besides, China now accounts for a big share of the back-end semiconductor manufacturing process called Outsourced Semiconductor Assembly and Test (OSAT) which is needed for the front-end semiconductor manufacturing process done by semiconductor wafer fabrication foundries such as TSMC in Taiwan.

    Biden’s US chip ban will make China become more not less dependent upon Taiwan which acts as a deterrent against any future Chinese invasion.

    • Agree: Decoy
  59. nickels says:

    China has gigadevice and the sky architecture W806 and Kin.
    Way better chips that American crap at 1/10th the price.
    The entire US foreign policy establishment is obviously high on dope.

  60. Ross23 says:

    This is hardly the end of the world for China, here`s why

    China make their own chips their main producer SMIC mass produce 14 nm

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiconductor_Manufacturing_International_Corporation#14_nm

    14 nm you may say not as good as Taiwan`s TSMC 5 nm, well did you know 14 nm chips were only invented in 2014 hardly the dark ages

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microprocessor_chronology

    Apparently SMIC have just created a 7 nm chip, which probably prompted this latest US action which puts them at 2019 level or 3 years behind

    https://thediplomat.com/2022/08/chinas-semiconductor-breakthrough/

    So the question is can this rapidly accelerating progress overtake the west, anyone with any intelligence can work that one out

    • Replies: @BlackFlag
  61. Miggs says:
    @anyone with a brain

    This is all meant to destroy the United States. The article has it all wrong.

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  62. Fred777 says:
    @paperclip2

    China would not be easy to take down on its own. But the more they help Russia the more they avoid the fight. Both countries know what they are up against and there is probably more cooperation than publicly known.

  63. @A123

    What you – well not you but those who believe this drivel – do not seem
    to realize is the Great Depression is the equilibrium state of a saturated economy;
    it wasn´t the Natzees ™ [cue sulfurous odor] who nedded the war to get
    themselves out of the muck.
    Apart from size the Usual Suspects are not really that competitive,
    and the entire postwar “prosperity” was already an extortion racket –
    and now the economics of size are gone too -> moar war.
    (I´m no fan of the classical Marxist take but Adolf Kozlik nailed it half
    a century ago – Der Vergeudungskapitalismus, 1966)

  64. @mulga mumblebrain

    As a proud racist I cannot in good conscience fully agree 😛
    but I´m not too sure how much of this is pre-midterm posturing;
    Brandon will do anything to make him look statesmanly
    (you know, like Dubya – read: Depends with a codpiece; we are doomed)
    and the Banzai charge he ordered on Kherson was shot in the oven.

    • Replies: @Charles Martel France
  65. MarkU says:
    @OrangeSmoke

    I agree that Biden isn’t making any real decisions but he is still more than capable of fucking things up. Just consider the recent consequences of his impromptu remarks about MBS and Saudi Arabia.

    It isn’t just the Biden regime that has fucked up America, its been going on for about three decades now. Off-shoring US and European industries to the far East (which I carelessly omitted from my list) has eviscerated the West and destroyed the prosperity of its citizens.

    You are right, those people must go.

  66. Hano says:

    I’m cool with this. You would think China would be appreciative of the wealth it was given, when the Anglo American empire shipped all our manufacturing over there. But no. They have been plotting our downfall. Why would I side with China over my own country?

    • Replies: @Fred777
    , @GomezAdddams
    , @xyzxy
  67. @Miro23

    Japan and South Korea are run by individuals, individuals that can suddenly die or otherwise suffer if they start doing things that are not aligned with American interest.

  68. @mulga mumblebrain

    At the bottom of it all it’s identity that matters. Yes the White vs Yellow race war is approaching.

  69. Nice one, Joe.
    Doubling down on OK Corral stupidity.

    Well, you’ve certainly lost in Ukraine.
    That 66 billion dollar bargain your General talked about, where ukies would die instead of the Yanquis in your war against Russia… It’s now a definite F grade. How to know?

    Apart from 30 to 40% loss of power and strikes ongoing, today the Berlin moneychangers said the Hryvnia will not be accepted after end of the month. Kiss of death, Joe.

    You will also fail against China, you sad dolt.
    PS Fuck you and Fuck your country.

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
  70. Hitch says:

    The Jewish Neocon Cabal has really thrown down the gauntlet to their goyim slaves with this move. They have already weaponized every aspect of western civilization, but they keep cranking their war of hate for goyim to new levels.

    Whereas a Jew, with or without dual citizenship, knows that he can always flee to Israel to escape justice, a dual citizen goy “US Person” now has become a Noahide slave no matter where he lives.

    ZOG-US worldwide taxation was already a curse for non-Jewish “US Person” (Elite Jews don’t pay taxes). Now after GILTY, FATCA and FBAR the ZOG-US IRS has all the data on expat US Persons living overseas. Just as few people realize that the clot-shot was the real motive for the Covid bioweapon, and just as few people realize the social credit is that real reason for CBDC, few people realized that enslavement of expats was the real motive for FATCA.

    All those ZOG-US slaves who submitted to the draconian IRS power grab in 2008 and started filing US taxes even though they lived their lives off shore are now caught in the US shitizen net.

    US citizenship has now been totally weaponized, just like SWIFT, CB bank reserves, and even underwater gas pipelines.

  71. @Miggs

    I also have seen this theory.
    It has some plausibility.

    But then where is any American voice of any substance?
    Americans continue to be enthusiastic destroyers of the world, few of them object to this role. Some Europeans are protesting in the street, Yanks are home watching Mickey Mouse.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  72. @IronForge

    Japan, Germany, and any other country in the chip supply chain will have to play ball if their tech involves any American input. Even if it doesn’t, American political pressure is likely sufficient to force them to comply. I guess we’ll know the real impact of this latest round of sanctions by how China responds. If China finally decides to hit back, it will mean the sanctions really hurt.

    • Replies: @IronForge
    , @showmethereal
  73. @Miro23

    Well, South Korea is fighting hard to keep its access to the Chinese market under great pressure from the Yanks, but Taiwan is pretty much a lost cause. At this point we’re just doing whatever we’re told and we even seem to have accepted the inevitability of our chip manufacturing capacity being moved out of the island.

    Japan, I don’t know…

  74. cohen says:
    @A123

    123 peace emoji man.
    Shameless, despicable, and despised by collective commentators on this site.

    You were absent for a while. Perhaps picking up after the 4 red heifers brought in from Texas for the big event. you are a Good Christian Zionist, a model slave of some Rabbi.

    You a total foo, always cite strange historical facts. In your comment a while ago you emphasized that the tribesmen were forced out of “Jewish Palestine”, a very sexy term.
    It was 40 AD and not 600 AD when Romans cleansed Palestine.

    The moron in front of Lincoln Center seems so happy. I admire your comical picks.

    Question? Can you refer me to a real corrupt Rabbi who could help me to convert into Judaism. I would like to have 1200 slaves. I started working on my future slaves list.

    BTW. Dont tell me that every Rabbi is corrupt. I am looking for the wizard of corruption

    • LOL: Thim
  75. A123 says: • Website
    @Graveldips

    how is it that all these tech workers will not be able to get work in this country? When we go back to making our own stuff, there will be plenty of work for them.

    You are correct. There will be plenty of Good Jobs at Good Wages for U.S. Citizens when they return home.

    Intel makes chips in the U.S.

    Additional manufacturers are coming here: (1) (2)

    Apple chip partner TSMC is considering expanding its existing plans to open up a chip foundry in Arizona, with the Taiwanese firm apparently planning to open up to a further five more locations in the state.

    TSMC has been working to build a $12 billion chip factory in Arizona, one that was originally announced in May 2020 and that the company has been busy raising funds to construct. However, it may not be the only project TSMC is planning to build in the United States.

    According to three sources of Reuters, TSMC is looking into potentially adding another five facilities in Arizona alongside the existing project in Phoenix.

    One source claims the increase in facilities is a response by the U.S. government request, though didn’t go into details. “Internally, TSMC is planning to build up to six fabs,” said the source.

    The primary structures are complete. Start up will occur in 2023. Insiders expect the TSMC Arizona facility to achieve full production in 2024.

    Oct 4 (Reuters) – Chipmaker Micron Technology (MU.O) said on Tuesday that it planned to invest up to $100 billion over the next 20-plus years to build a computer chip factory complex in upstate New York, in a bid to boost domestic chip manufacturing.

    The project, which Micron claims will be the world’s largest semiconductor fabrication facility, is expected to create nearly 50,000 jobs in New York, with the first phase investment of $20 billion planned by the end of this decade.

    The selection of New York State is odd. Low cost, reliable electricity is necessary for semiconductor production. Reliable state government is also desirable. One has to assume that more than generous subsidies will deal with excessive NY taxation. More news to follow on this proposal.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/05/04/five-more-tsmc-chip-plants-planned-in-us-expansion

    (2) https://www.reuters.com/technology/micron-plans-invest-up-100-bln-semiconductor-factory-new-york-nyt-2022-10-04/

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  76. Fred777 says:
    @Hano

    China must have been gobsmacked by the way the American empire threw its own citizens and future under the bus for improved short term quarterly profits.

  77. Hitch says:
    @Davy Crockit

    The Government can’t take your citizenship away from you!

    LOL. We are long past any constitutional or amendment or “legal” right having any applicability to anyone the ZOG elite deem to be “not part of the future”. They deliberately planned to modify the DNA of everyone in the country by forced injections, for christs sake. Or just take a look at what they have done to Snowden or Assange.

    All they have to do is put you on any one of a number of secret lists, and they can ruin your life or even make you become a virtual “non-person”.

    The act must be accompanied by a specific intent to relinquish U.S. nationality.

    Theoretically all those expats working for Chinese companies could use these newest sanctions as justification for renouncement of US citizenship by claiming that the act of not quitting their job was “accompanied by a specific intent to relinquish U.S. nationality”.

    The reality here is that one has to pay a $2500 “renouncement fee” at a US embassy in order to renounce. After placing numerous hurdles in front of expat tax donkey’s in order to make it as difficult as possible, or even impossible, to renounce, the State Department is not going to simply allow people to ignore presidential directives and use that as a legitimate claim for escaping the clutches of the IRS.

    One recent example of how they have made renouncement nearly impossible was how they closed US embassies across the planet during covid for those people seeking to renounce. Even now there is a massive backlog, and in many countries a renouncement appointment may take years to schedule, until which the ZOG-US tax donkey will simply have to remain compliant under threat of draconian penalties and simply continue paying his Capital Gains, Income Taxes, Death Taxes, GILTI taxes, Transition Taxes and so much more.

    https://www.expatustax.com/gilti-tax-and-transition-tax-on-foreign-business/

  78. @meamjojo

    Joseph Amtrak Democratic Party with Hillary and Hunter at homeplate and the USA will help Zelesnkyy win in Ukraine and then –a pink elephant entered the White House looking for the john?

  79. @Hano

    You were sold out by the 1% and DC,

  80. Anon[812] • Disclaimer says:

    The following sticks out in my mind based on MSM blurbs over the past several years:

    “China leads in technological advances, will be number #1 !! China will be the new one and only superpower .”

    Now we hear there are American engineers whose resignations have thrown Chinese technological superiority in a tailspin. DUH ?

    I remember when Japanese Kaizen was the in thing. Every dickhead executive was headed to Japan to copy their master processes. Decades later ask about Kaizen and people assume it is some new sushi dish. This is just one example of bullshit that arrives, is gospel, we worship and then it disappears and is replaced by some other nonsense. ISO 1999, 2000, 2001 was another such malarkey.

    So China is going to be dominant because they are super smart but then we find out that without American know how they are not so super smart. All this is reported by a Jew on a Twitter account. LOL

    You know, at one time MSM and 24/7 Social Media was going to be the equivalent of the industrial revolution. These have disintegrated into 24/7 blather and drivel hosted by every dickhead with access to a computer.

    The more “information” we are force fed the more stupid we become. The people who invented Covid to wipe out billions need not have bothered. The majority of earths population is already brain dead. They occupy space, including the one in their heads.

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  81. Anon[496] • Disclaimer says:
    @The_Masterwang

    But the transistor wasn’t invented by Whites.

    LOL

    The Transistor Inventors John Bardeen, William Shockley, and Walter Brattain were all scientists at the Bell Telephone Laboratories in Murray Hill, New Jersey in 1947.

    They look most white.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @The_Masterwang
  82. katesisco says:
    @anyone with a brain

    There is that ‘return to feudalism’ I’ve seen here at Unz. All of us peons being born to nothing but debt. This extensive evidence of school testing showing failure to achieve grade proficiency at all levels lends support to that. Then there is the US with the extraordinary death rate for births; are these birth showing less than successful Apgar scores and the wealthy’s response? And the surprising fact that iodine levels globally are not optimum which could alone lead to an 8 POINT drop in IQ.
    The US appears to be prepping for the return of industry but obviously it will be robotic. The current stock of employables lacking the IQ to safely be around robotic machinery. And there you have it…the return of feudalism.

  83. xyzxy says:
    @Hano

    Why would I side with China over my own country?

    It’s not your own country anymore. Unless you are Jewish, or one of the sad groups under their influence.

    And it’s not really about ‘siding’ with one country or the other. At least from a fundamental economic standpoint. Economics is not necessarily a zero-sum game. That is only how the US plays it.

    Let’s dig a little deeper. Assuming you are one of the genuine American ‘dispossessed majority’ (re: in the Wilmot Robertson sense), then here’s the thing you must learn: it’s not the Chinese who are destroying ‘your country’. The Chinese could disappear tomorrow, and things would get no better in the US.

    I know that may be difficult for you to understand, given the low-level of your comment. But I presume you are willing to learn, since you are on this site (even though you have no commenting history!). I mean, I don’t want to call you a troll. Right? LOL

    • Agree: A B Coreopsis
  84. First of all, IP, Intellectual Property, was meant for trade not foreign policy. The US is denying US IP owners their ability to make money. This probably constitutes a “taking” under the constitution and they should be compensated for it.

    Secondly, China is under no obligation to honor US IP rules if they are being used to threaten China’s security. It could simply declare them null and void or it could break only select IP rules and offer compensation.

    Third. It could offer citizenship, dual and otherwise, to people who want to stay and work in China. In some sectors, it might add enhanced compensation. You might end up with Ameri-town, just like you have little China Towns in the US. It could team up with some partners like Malaysia or Thailand to offer joint Chinese / Thai dual citizenship.

    Fourth. China needs to figure out what to do with its US holdings. Keeping their reserves in US Banks and the Federal Reserve seems unwise at this point. Maybe they could send the dollars to Switzerland and buy gold.

    Fifth. They could send Russia the chips it needs to keep its manufacturing going. Let Russia produce the “borrowed” IP. If the West asks for payment, Russia can write checks against assets seized by the US.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  85. TG says:

    You know, Taiwan has a lot of chip-making expertise. I don’t know if Taiwan has the full range of chip-making expertise, but if China did take Taiwan over perhaps that could end China’s problem?

    But really, China has no need to invade Taiwan. Perhaps all this Chinese saber-rattling is just a pressure campaign. “Give us all your chip-making expertise and we let you live in peace, or else we invade and the Taiwanese ruling class loses everything.”

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  86. Zumbuddi says:

    Surely America’s bestest ally will rush in to back-stop Joe I am a zionist Biden.

    After all, Israel is the One, the Onlee Start Up Nation, performer of Economic Miracles (all without using a shekel of its own money).

    Not only that, Israel is King of the world of technology and innovation.

    Step aside, David; and hang in there, Jesus INRI:

    In the world of technology and innovation, Israel is king. The country has more hi-tech start-ups per capita than anywhere else in the world and is second only to the US in venture capital funds . . .
    It’s no secret that Israel – the “start-up nation” – is a global centre for technology.

    https://theculturetrip.com/middle-east/israel/articles/11-israeli-innovations-that-changed-the-world/

    While this frontal attack on China may, indeed, harm USA in the short term, surely and without the scintilla of a doubt Start Up Nation King Israel will rush to the aid of its American BFF.

    Isn’t that why ADL was so annoyed with Trump for calling American Jews ingrates?

  87. @OrangeSmoke

    Whitney gives it away when he says it will help China a lot in the long run. Biden works for the Chinese more than he does for the US. The destruction of the US has been part of the elites plan for decades. This is just one more small step in the same direction.

    • Troll: A B Coreopsis
  88. rgl says:

    Former president O’bomb’em’s quote: “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to fuck things up.” Today, I think Biden has proven the veracity of O’bomb’em’s quote. The US can’t possibly sink any lower, but Biden is doing his level best to do so.

    The time cannot be that far off where China forbids the export of so-called ‘rare earth’ minerals, an absolute need for american chip products … everything from so-called ‘smart phones’ to automobile computers to jet aircraft systems. Rare earth minerals aren’t really that rare, however the US lacks the processing facilities to make this stuff into useful products. These facilities do not spring up overnight, nor are they cheap to build.

    America needs a third foot. They’ve shot their only two to shreds.

    • Replies: @A123
  89. Anon[826] • Disclaimer says:

    At the risk of sounding too Freudian, I think one reason Biden has adopted such bellicose policies towards Russia and China, especially after the Right claimed he was in bed with Beijing, is due to his son Beau’s death. Beau was a veteran and aspiring political figure:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beau_Biden
    Joseph Robinette “Beau” Biden III (February 3, 1969 – May 30, 2015) was an American politician, lawyer, and officer in the Army Judge Advocate General’s Corps from Wilmington, Delaware. The oldest child of current U.S. president Joe Biden and Neilia Hunter Biden, he served as the 44th attorney general of Delaware from 2007 to 2015 and was a major in the Delaware Army National Guard in the Iraq War. He died of brain cancer in 2015 at the age of 46.

    Perhaps his grieving father, our current President, feels it necessary to wield the military aggressively as a way to memorialize and vindicate the memory of his beloved eldest son?

    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
  90. @Arthur MacBride

    Thanks …
    the economists used to say the tipping point is when the Hryvnia falls
    below the Ruble – the capital flight alone would kill the Keeheef junta;
    but this is even funnier – it seems the purse is nearer and dearer than the cloak 😀

    • LOL: Arthur MacBride
    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  91. @PetrOldSack

    The Chinese do not need foreign control or guidance anymore. My current job is railways related and some colleagues told me how fast the Chinese have learned to master really big and complex projects on their own. They had experts from Siemens and Alsthom in for high speed trains and French engineering firms for high speed tracks and associated geology. Now they can manage all that themselves and they have surpassed everything that runs in Europe in just a single decade. Soon they will match or outdo all the Japanese achievements. The shivers run down your spine when you study the quality and the scale of it all. The days of the Chinese merely being able to copy the engineering of others, have been over for a while now. The days of hastily shoddy building and making construction mistakes like in the Three Gorges Dam, will be over soon as well.

    Taking away all the American knowledge and business from Chinese tech firms will be only a temporary setback. It will serve as an extra boost for the Chinese to get self-sufficient and independable. Warnings in the West to not neglect the leading edges in skills and educations have been given off for years, and have been neglected. It can not be denied any longer that engineers from India, China, Singapore, Japan, Russia, Slovenia and Malaysia have grown to be of an equal or even superior level. Of course, these people will team up and will be happy to fill the voids that the Americans left. Electronics will be developed again, but perhaps based on new standards which may no longer be compatible with US made electronics. If development of smartphones, tablets and laptops is left over to the control and initiative of Asians, Asians might as well dictate how operating systems work and what features will be included in new equipment used worldwide.
    For now, the availibility of the latest chip making equipment by ASML, necessary for making the latest generations of processors and fast memory modules, is under tight US control. Right now, Silicon Valley and the big US tech firms still decide how much Asian electronics firms may advance toward the leading edge. Once those restrictions are gone, US big tech will die.

    With Chinese production gone, the Americans will now probably try to make India come up with alternatives. We’ll see how that goes.

    • Replies: @PetrOldSack
  92. @Cook

    “Pentagon, this is Admiral Mahmoud Kwansei, commander of 2 carrier fleets off the coast of China. We need fuel and supplies; we are running low. Please respond ASAP.”

    “Admiral, sorry but we don’t have any left in the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. We sucked it dry to lower gas prices for election momentum and sold the rest to China. Over and out, Pentagon.”

    “The Secretary of the Joint Chiefs is on his way to the Russian embassy to get on his knees and give an oral presentation to the senior staff to beg for oil for our fleet.”

  93. US chips are fed into Chinese military tech, which is then arrayed against the US. This is not complicated, sorry. I wish it weren’t so. It is so. Whoever builds the top AI and software will control the world, and at this point, it’s the US or China. I wish it weren’t so. It is likely to be so.

    Mike Whitney is very concerned about China and the price of refrigerators. Maybe he should ask himself which side he is on.

  94. IronForge says:
    @Obsequious

    I disagree.

    CHN’s Economy+ChipMkt are too big to Pass Up.

    JPN’s Largest Trading Partner are the CHNese – only the Taipei Sabotage of the Senkaku-Daidou Fiasco+Riots (Diplomatic Back-Burner for decades until JPN&CHN decided to Trade in their JP¥+CN¥, ending HKG and Taipei’s Role as Middlemen) have prevented the JPN-CHN Trade from being 4-5× the JPN-USA Trade Volumes (projected from earlier growth rates).

    Most JPN (Non-Defense) Industrials are contemplating WHEN to begin prioritize the CHN Trade – not “IF”.

    Some will comply; but any declines in Business will be taken up by others.

    Govt_JPN may be pwned; but the spineless will be replaced based on Trade Realities.

    JPN didn’t leave the RUS Sakhalin Projects; and those other Corporations who could stay – are staying. Similar for DEU – many of their Companies who do Trade with RUS have stayed in RUS.

    Brandon and Blinken have overreached their Influence-Bullying and are ClusterFailing at it around the World.

  95. Anon[812] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    According to Master Wang and his cabal of Chink trolls, the Slopes discovered everything. The fact is their major discoveries were the chopstick and the fortune cookie and those took 4000 years. Per another Asian dope, the noodle was discovered in China and brought to Italy by Marco Polo. Well whatever !!. Other than that they are a pretty useless bunch.

    Now folks point out that they discovered gunpowder and the compass. But who cares ? Discovery of anything is useless unless it can be put to use. I imagine for thousands of years Chinks observed steam when they boiled a pot of water. Yet this meant nothing until the White Man harnessed that energy and invented the steam engine it all meant nothing. Like anything else, the Chinese at the time were still using sedan chairs carried by sweating half starved coolies. Does this mean the Slopes discovered the steam engine ? LMAO.

    The next thing we will hear from Master Wang is that the inventors of the transistor, while white, were eating Moo Goo Guy Pan and got the inspiration as such. Therefore, the Chinese invented the transistor.

    To read the comments of these people keeps me amused. With their level of stupidity, sloth and lassitude, how are they ever going to be superior to whites ? Maybe my next fortune cookie will provide the answer. Master Wang is not a Master and not a Wang, not even a Wong. He is a Dong !

    • LOL: antibeast
    • Replies: @kicktheroos
    , @JR Foley
  96. Notsofast says:
    @Old Brown Fool

    thinking the same thing myself, this may be ukraine 2.0, the u.s. has claimed to have troops and weapons secretly and illegally stationed in taiwan, add to this the provocation in iran, with 85 billion dollars worth of weapons left behind in afghanistan (oops), just as the taliban are having border flare ups with iran.

  97. @Cook

    All of the sanctions are done by an insular, hermetically sealed class from Ivy League schools in law, “International Relations”, and other esoteric areas designed to pre-place them in grubmint, NGOs, corporations, where they will receive and follow orders and directives by the very small number of super rich families.

    There is no consolation, discussion-you will notice-with relevant industries, farmers, or even the general polity-those disgusting deplorables.

    The governments in the West are foreign occupiers, plunders, sociopaths, and demonic.

  98. Decoy says:
    @Graveldips

    You are the most optimistic person that I’m aware of. This policy against China looks good on paper but doesn’t factor in the repercussions. I envision another Russian sanctions debacle, but in that debacle the European economies were adversely affected. The China “sanctions” are going to affect us, and not in a minimal way.

  99. Realist says:
    @Jim Richard

    Agreed.

    It’s quite easy to make vague calls to action for how to get a change in direction from those who rule without being clear as to how to implement this change. Can you be specific as to how you would go about achieving your goals (rhetorical question as we both know you would be ill advised to answer)?

    It would be foolish to directly confront the Deep State physically, but those with a modicum of intelligence can see a non-electoral method of making a change.

  100. Drsmith says:

    Seems if US of A and NATOstan is bent on a two front war . First they goaded Russia into war with Ukraine now they are doing the same with Taiwan….guess things are far worse the West than I suspected as it seems like they are in a fight to the death with China and Russia.

    Why can’t we be friends, why can’t we be friends? as the song goes…

    • Replies: @Dieboomerdie
  101. @Anon

    ‘ Who will denounce Biden and the Democrats for treason? ‘…only the Democrats ( one wing of the Anglo-American-Zionist Corporate-State Party )…?!…What about the other wing, the Republicans ( RINO )…the other side of the same coin ?!…

    • Agree: nosquat loquat
  102. jimbojones says: • Website

    This move makes sense in principle, but of course remains confusing in light of the schizophrenic behavior of the US over the last three decades.

    Trying to keep at home a strategically important and highly profitable industry such as chips is the most obvious thing in the world and should have been a no-brainer. So in this regard, good for team Biden and good for the US. Also good for the Chinese. Let them develop their own chips. They can do it and it will be good for them to become independent of the US in regard to chips.

    What doesn’t make sense is, how do you intend to both (a) maintain world dominance and (b) ship off most of your industry including strategically important sectors to your major opponent the way the Americans did it over the last 30 years? It’s ridiculous. The obvious answer is that the geniuses in Washington thought they could do a color coup in China but it didn’t pan out.

    So now, if Washington intends to sink Europe and wage a two-front war against Russian and China, as appears to be the case, they must be set on a course of breakneck reindustrialization akin to what happened in 1939-1945. The question is, (1) are they really doing it after saying we don’t need no industry and industry is bad for the planet for 30 years? And (2) can they do it in the trannyfied US of the 2020’s?

    If they try to reindustrialize for real, what the hell, I’m all for it. Industry good, Malthusians bad.

    • Replies: @Decoy
    , @RoatanBill
  103. @Davy Crockit

    The Government can’t take your citizenship away from you!

    Slaves are bought and sold. The US govt are even reluctant to accept an expatriating act done overseas as a legitimate loss of citizenship until they’ve extracted their pound of your flesh.

  104. A123 says: • Website
    @rgl

    The time cannot be that far off where China forbids the export of so-called ‘rare earth’ minerals, an absolute need for american chip products

    Rare earth minerals aren’t really that rare, however the US lacks the processing facilities to make this stuff into useful products. These facilities do not spring up overnight, nor are they cheap to build.

    China is equally dependant on imports of other materials. Everyone rational understands that sudden decoupling is undesirable. This is a risk with Veggie-In-Chief Biden, but they do have handlers around him to curtail the worst possible outcomes.

    One key element of MAGA Reindustrialization is GRADUAL Decoupling. Time is required to spin up resource extraction & refining industries, such as rare earth elements. A bridging solution is available. The CCP has sent rare earth elements to the U.S. packaged in useless wind turbines and photoelectric cells. A huge amount of raw material can be reclaimed from these failed ‘green energy’ scams.

    At the same time, the CCP will no doubt seek out alternate victims to exploit for its colonial ambitions. They are welcome to the eternal fiasco that is sub-Saharan Africa. And, it would be entertaining to watch Xi attempt to absorb Afghanistan.

    America needs a third foot. They’ve shot their only two to shreds

    The feet of Americans have been kept in shackles, placed there by SJW Globalist MegaCorporations and their CCP collaborators. The U.S. needs to remove the weight of CCP exploitation from their legs. First to stand, then to walk, and ultimately to proudly carry the banner of MAGA freedom across the land.

    PEACE😇

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  105. global thermo nuclear war is only the first part of build back better.

  106. @nokangaroos

    Brandon will do anything to make him look statesmanly
    (you know, like Dubya – read: Depends with a codpiece; we are doomed)
    and the Banzai charge he ordered on Kherson was shot in the oven.

    • LOL: nokangaroos
  107. SafeNow says:

    China has 300,000 people with an IQ of 160 or above (the US, 10,000). When Covid struck, China built a hospital in one week. When it comes to producing medicines, especially new ones, China does the organic synthesis “benchwork” because their workers (unlike US workers ) are very fastidious. And so on. China will emerge from this hiccup, and fast. And of course, there’s this…Euripides said: Nothing is stronger than dire necessity. The scary part is that Biden‘s people are aware of all of the above but did this anyway.

  108. @A123

    They also need to decouple from Israel and cut the Jewish lobby adrift.

  109. @nokangaroos

    Right. Once the moneychangers drop you, it’s over.

    Additional is the news that Israeli defence minister Benny Gantz received a phone request from Alexei Reznikov (sp?) Ukraine defence minister. He declined to take the call.

    They’re finished.
    Zelensky bought a massive house in Israel for his parents – – he can easily afford that on his Hryvnia salary of course. Maybe they will expect a house guest soon.
    Kolomoisky also not far away.

    Maybe these kikes might also receive some callers when Ukrainians wake up to how they have been treated.
    That would make nice headlines in NYT.

  110. @Cook

    So much for “Bejing Joe” snuggling up to the Chinese Communists. Didn’t the corrupt Biden clan, with Hunter as point man, have big investments in China? The end of Biden’s anti-American Regime can’t happen soon enough. How on earth can we wait until the 2024 election to get rid of that senile would-be dictator, and his neocon coterie of haters, marching the world to Armageddon?

  111. @Nathaniel Eli

    Wisely, Nathaniel Eli wrote: “Mike Whitney is very concerned about China and the price of refrigerators. Maybe he should ask himself which side he is on.’

    Hi Nathaniel!

    It doesn’t matter which side Mike is on, because in so many ways and for many reasons, the satanic Club always concoct an excuse for supply chain disruption.

  112. [email protected] who complained about globalization complaining about its reversal because it might hurt

  113. @Nathaniel Eli

    It’s quite clear which side all these bozos who suck off Putin and Xi are on. For example, if you complain about DCs illegal invasions and war crimes, but you somehow support Russias invasion of Ukraine, you need to take Putins dick out of your mouth.

  114. @Drsmith

    Lol Ukraine is a fight to death for Russia and it looks like they’re getting more and more of their citizens killed in this ill thought out illegal invasion. Even if Russia wins, NATO will barely be affected.

  115. @A123

    Zeihan is a shill and has been shilling for 8 months about the Ukies winning. Before this year ends, he will have to eat his boots unboiled.

  116. anastasia says:

    In other words, after we sell half the United States to the Chinese, with all its manufacturing companies and food manufacturers (the entire pork industry), we punish them by forcing their engineers to leave China, and in the long run, while it will all be made into an effort in futility, China still owns the United States?

    Did I get that right?

    Other than impoverishing us all and risking our lives, is there any other news about the bold steps we are taking against China?

  117. @A123

    A123, I know you and your history. I think you are an Israeli paid dis-information agent. Putin’s latest warning to your country is that relations will change with Israel if it supplies lethal weapons to Ukraine.
    Iran and Syria might not have nuclear weapons but the Bear does. Israel’s Samson Option will be shoved down it’s twitching brown star.

  118. BlackFlag says:
    @Ross23

    How dependent on Americans working in China were those breakthroughs? Anyhow, even if this ban were to be executed correctly, China probably has spies all over the chip industry which makes me wonder how they can still be behind TSMC. I guess it’s not like nuclear technology which relies on a few key secrets that can be easily transferred from one organization to another.

    • Replies: @A123
  119. Avery says:
    @frankie p

    {I live in Taiwan,…. Australian or Canadian citizenship is cheaper, and the tax burden much lighter.}

    Question: what’s the advantage for a Chinese to have Canadian or Australian dual citizenship?
    I understand it facilitates travel tremendously — like visiting family regularly — but both Canada and Australia are in Anglosphere: US can always find ways to pressure Canada and Australia to do the same US did. And both will obey.

  120. @Graveldips

    “When we go back to making our own stuff, there will be plenty of work for them.”

    One hopes. It will, however, be a long and arduous process to rebuild and retool all that has been destroyed during the abandonment of USA domestic manufacturing. Autarky is conceivabe in the USA of the interests of its citizens are placed first. I for one would be pleased to see the end of transnational corporations and a replacement by nationally-prioritized manufacture by firms that look to the USA market first. Float the domestic boat, don’t sink it!

    • Replies: @Graveldips
  121. Zumbuddi says:
    @Anon

    Perhaps his grieving father, our current President, feels it necessary to wield the military aggressively as a way to memorialize and vindicate the memory of his beloved eldest son?

    — Anglin’s recent diatribe about Jamie Raskin:

    There’s something very weird about Raskin’s reaction to the suicide of his only son.

    Raskin cut short his “grieving” in order to get to the Capitol in time to support Pelosi.
    His first published mention of his son’s suicide included the directive to “wear masks.”

    Was Tommy R a horse’s head to ensure Jamie stayed on-script?
    Is Tommy sharing digs with Epstein in TelAviv?

  122. @Davy Crockit

    Mr. Whitney’s claim that Biden has the authority to take away US citizenship from Americans working in China doesn’t make any sense. This is the first I’ve heard of this story. Does Whitney have another credible source besides some guy’s Twitter ramblings? Do we have a declared war with China? No, we don’t!

    If Biden actually issued that decree, then the defendants and their lawyers need to challenge his regime in court rather than meekly quitting their positions. If they don’t prevail, after appealing to SCOTUS, then the Republic is lost, and they would be better off staying in China.

  123. @mulga mumblebrain

    As far as trade goes, China had 50% and India 23% respectively of global trade just 350 years ago. The industrial revolution in England, especially the steam engine was a game changer. This is now becoming yesterday’s news and the world will again revert to the older paradigm.

  124. @RJ Macready

    Fully agree. Ojalá, this will be the future for the USA and the Global South.

  125. A123 says: • Website
    @BlackFlag

    How dependent on Americans working in China were those breakthroughs?

    Near 100%.

    Shanghai Microelectronics [SMEE] is the only lithography machine manufacturer in China. They have been stuck at the 32-28nm scale for years and years.

    SMEE claims to have generated a 14nm machine, however there is no market indication that such chips are being made in production volumes. At best it may be generating low yields at high cost for the PLA. However, given SOE willingness to lie in service to government propaganda needs, 14nm may be 100% mythical.

    China probably has spies all over the chip industry which makes me wonder how they can still be behind TSMC. I guess it’s not like nuclear technology which relies on a few key secrets that can be easily transferred from one organization to another.

    Decades ago Intel, and presumably other major corporations, realized that the CCP drones lacked ingenuity. The only option for China to proceed was stealing IP from competent countries.

    While the details are still secret, it is widely believed that U.S. Intelligence and Intel Corp setup CCP espionage teams, letting them steal incorrect data and failed concepts. TSMC and ASML have been even more opaque on their counter intelligence operations. However, they also know that the only way the CCP can advance is thievery. They have definitely been protecting their IP.
    ____

    The bottom line is that the authoritarian CCP is stuck. And, they have no one to blame but their bourgeoisie elite class.

    SOE’s lack ingenuity and creativeness. High-IQ, but very linear thinking, government employees cannot make intuitive leaps to drive technology forward. They will continue to be mired at the 28nm scale until they have a systemic change away from central control.

    PEACE 😇

  126. @OrangeSmoke

    Most American citizens have been anesthetized, lobotomized with free money and shiny plastic knick knacks. They have forgotten the basics of life and probably think that spaghetti grows on trees. They are far removed from realities of life.
    The two oceans (Atlantic & Pacific) that kept them safe from all modern wars have also made them delusional and exceptional in their mind.

  127. @anonymous

    I came to that conclusion in 1995, got out in ´98, although not to Costa Rica. Further south, much further. Costa Rica in ´92 was already turning into a downmarket Dominican Republic lady-wise and an expat tree-hugger paradise. Bah! You’re certainly right about one thing though: the USA is “a nation without a future”, at least an immediate future. One hopes the capacity is still there to rebuild and demonstrate manufacturing merit!

  128. @Karl1906

    From afar, I’m afraid I agree.

  129. Joe Wong says:
    @A123

    “Once upon a time, in the 50s, a family could own a house, a car and send the kids college all on one income.” The Americans still can do that with money spare to travel and build a golden egg nest for retirement, only if the Americans can stop their government from wasting trillions upon trillion on bombing and killing all over the world on the fabricated phantom WMD allegation as an aid to spreading “democracy.”

  130. @Gerhard57NL

    I took note of your analysis, as a referral for later occasions. Thanks for your input.

  131. @OrangeSmoke

    Marcuse was a latecomer. The genius behind all this was Antonio Gramsci. Mind you, if he were still alive, I’d like to face-stamp him, but he blazed the trail for whatmust now be stopped or else.

  132. Joe Wong says:
    @meamjojo

    Chinese wanted to rebuild the infrastructure for the American, but the stupid and greedy politicians in Washington stop the projects because they cannot agree on how to divide the kickbacks in the brown envelops among themselves.

    Perhaps the states of the USA need to break away from the USA, so each state can get Chinese rebuild their infrastructure without being hindered by the greedy and stupid politicians in Washington.

  133. @Anon

    Partisanship is a folly… Mike Pompeo joined a think tank and gets paid to do nothing but try to incite a war with China.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  134. @The_Masterwang

    A collapse, or even a serious reduction in international trade, would provide vast opportunities for engineers. All the things we used to make before they were offshored would be made here again. Cars, shoes, lightbulbs, you name it. And yes, the engineers can retrain. My father went from sheet metal mechanic to aerospace engineer, without going to college. Surely a man with an engineering degree can do better.

    • Replies: @orchardist
  135. @Graveldips

    “But calling our people home is not an aggressive act. They are free to stay there, forever.” Actually the vast majority of those people are Chinese born (mostly the Mainland but many from Taiwan also) who became naturalized citizens. The quote in the article is alarmist. They didn’t all leave. Many went back with the express purpose that they would be staying. But yeah others will be leaving. US companies though have loads of R&D workers in China though. Of course those people will simply get jobs at Chinese competitors who will get government funding…. it’s really a stupid policy – but hey…

  136. Joe Wong says:
    @A123

    The American politicians are cowards, if they still have any ball, they should cut off all trades and links with China immediately to stop the Chinese dead in their track, instead of making fanciful lies to fool the Americans and to cover for their incompetence and helplessness to stop Chinese rise.

    • Replies: @Hulkamania
    , @A123
    , @TheMoon
  137. @Godfree Roberts

    Yes, China is much better than the West, which also employs state censorship and repression except done arbitrarily and without any clear rules. Some random Jew doesn’t like your opinion? Well, then he can have your life destroyed. See Alex Jones as a recent example. It’s not like that in China. Everyone knows what is and is not prohibited, and almost everyone is in agreement on what should and should not be prohibited.

    • Agree: A B Coreopsis
    • Replies: @Godfree Roberts
  138. @Joe Wong

    That would harm the USA much more than it would harm China. China actually has a real economy. The USA does not.

  139. Decoy says:
    @jimbojones

    De-industrialzation occurred over about 20 years and realistically we need the same amount of time to re-industrialize. This policy against tech workers in China is abrupt and I get a sense of desperation and panic and turmoil within the Biden Administration. Whoever made the decision had to go talk to Joe so Joe could sign the order. Wish that conversation would have been recorded. Would be comedy gold. The chaos within the Biden Administration is very risky for the United States but also for the world.

    • Agree: Godfree Roberts
  140. @Obsequious

    Correct… Except China is the largest market for semiconductors and US share of tech is getting lower and lower all the time. Go check – SK Hynix and Samsung and TSMC were all just given 1 year waivers against these sanctions for their Chinese fabs…. Just about enough time that US companies can be replaced – which contrary to the first story quoted – has been going on since 2018….

    • Thanks: Godfree Roberts
    • Replies: @Obsequious
  141. @Montefrío

    Yes it will be long and arduous, but it is doable. Japan and Germany rebuilt, so can we. It will require, however, crushing the wokeness. That’s inevitable, since wokeness requires money to sustain itself, and wokeness produces nothing. That newly unemployed engineer doesn’t need Negroes and harridans to get things done, and will take the red pill with gusto. In an open contest between useless eaters and productive White men, the former haven’t a chance.

    • Replies: @TheMoon
  142. A123 says: • Website
    @Joe Wong

    The American politicians are cowards, if they still have any ball, they should cut off all trades and links with China immediately to stop the Chinese dead in their track,

    The PRC is a major importer of U.S. Agricultural products be cause they are so unskilled they cannot even feed themselves. Pushing the CCP so hard they cannot feed their people is the one thing almost certain to start a war.

    While it is obvious that the U.S. would be better off than than PRC. There were would be some nasty dislocations. For example, a great deal of OTC generic meds come from China.

    A GRADUAL decoupling is better for both Chinese and American workers.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  143. Um… what will happen when China reciprocates, or stops exporting key products to the US?

  144. @Si1ver1ock

    I’m surprised that no one has given you even a measly “Agree” with your proposal to grant Chinese citizenship to any US citizen that decides to stay. That idea was the first to pop into my mind as an instant way to turn the tables on this latest illegal move by the US. It would be interesting to see how many would accept the offer. If the numbers were large enough to matter, it would at least be an embarrassment for the US.

    Of the US citizens involved, I wonder how many are considering what they would face back in the US job market with the Fed Gov crippling the US manufacturers ability to make money which naturally leads to layoffs and loss of income. Viewed from that perspective, someone would be foolish to leave a paying job for unemployment in the US if they could also maintain some form of citizenship to be able to not be a stateless person.

    This is just another case that highlights that all “citizens” are cattle with respect to their governments. The gov’t operates as though they own you. You need permission to leave their jurisdiction and without a passport, you’re stuck in a large open air prison. All gov’ts collude to do this so any one of them can say that it’s not them preventing you from leaving it’s the bad gov’t at the other end that won’t let you enter. That’s a very convenient scheme between all the gov’t mafias.

  145. CSFurious says:

    The U.S. is currently controlled by maniacs.

  146. @A123

    More vicious, moronic, hate-crazed racism from the resident Zionazi troll. Whether this evil imbecile is simply pig ignorant, or lying, who really cares. Who is the world’s largest food producer? China with 20% of output in a terrain not best suited to large scale food production. There’s your ‘unskilled’ you slimy, supremacist, racist thug, and on their own territory, not stolen land as with the Zionazi entity.

    • Agree: Hulkamania
  147. TheMoon says:

    Can we stop pretending Joe Biden is in charge of anything other than pudding cups?

  148. @jimbojones

    It’s not just plant and equipment that’s needed to re industrialize. You also need people with the skills to make all that hardware and software function. The US education system has been turning out lazy dolts with degrees in nonsense like economics and business administration. What use is a social science PhD in an industrial setting, or some gender study flake? All the basket weaving degreed people are a net drag on the economy and are going to be more of a drag as time goes on. The US dug a seriously deep hole with their lack of promoting the trades and STEM allowing people to waste billions on phony disciplines.

    The US is in no shape to re industrialize unless it wants to import the talent to further lower the living standards of the native US population that have become too fat and complacent as welfare recipients or workers in menial jobs because they’re as dumb as a stump. The skill pool required is being buried daily as the older generation dies off; the skills that US policy caused to go to waste as industry was offshored.

    • Replies: @Notsofast
  149. TheMoon says:
    @Graveldips

    Except White men are proving to not be big fighters.

    I kept hearing “If they come for our children, then it’s war” my whole life. Well, they’ve already indoctrinated two generations of children, and are looking to normalize mutilating surgery on young children, and… memes and a scattering of hurty words, or retarded elders just shitting on younger generations for the indoctrination the elders sent their children to.

    When I hear about a single vigiliance committee or one dirtbag “transition” doctor (or porn peddling elementary school teacher) hanging from a bridge, I’ll believe there’s some fight left in them.

    • Replies: @Hulkamania
  150. @showmethereal

    Pompeo, in my opinion, is a truly Evil psychopath, even for a denizen of the US ruling elite. He is also, or pretends to be, an End Times religious lunatic, one of that type who loudly proclaim their desire for an end to this world, in fire, so that they might ascend to Heaven to sit next to their ego-projection Divinity, while everyone else burns in Hell, forever.

    • Replies: @JR Foley
  151. TheMoon says:
    @Joe Wong

    “cowards”

    You misspelled “paid foriegn agents”

  152. @Graveldips

    Men-of-the-Mind went on strike when Nixon closed the Gold Window in 1971.

    They will not return until they can be paid properly for the produce of their minds.

  153. @A123

    More racist garbage from the resident Judaic supremacist. The Chinese, being ‘yellow’, are, naturally, inferior to the mighty White Man, and that paragon beyond paragons, the Jew, like A123. Over and over flows the race hatred, as for 3500 years, the Chinese just the latest Amalek, or Moabites, or Midianites, or Jebusites, destined for elimination to please Yahweh. Indeed, A123 is SO loathsome I often suspect it is a Judeophobe, bent on portraying Jews in as negative a light as possible.

  154. @A123

    Where do you see this weight of CCP exploitation.

    Have you ever run a business in your life?

    It was US corporations that decided on their own to offshore their manufacturing and China was there with open arms to accept their gift of technology transfer. China would have been stupid to do anything else. The reason corporations left was the regulatory environment and the labor costs. As soon as one widget maker left for the lower cost Chinese environment, his competitors were almost force to follow to stay price competitive.

    The US Fed Gov and the unions pushed corporation just that bit too hard and they decide to take the options available to them to stay as functioning enterprises in a world market. It was US stupidity and greed that pushed the corporations into the life and death decisions they were forced into in many cases. Why do you think there are almost no appliance manufacturers in the US, for example? They all left because they had to or go bankrupt by staying.

    • Replies: @A123
  155. @Anon

    Hey incelitititis some fat ugly asian female laugh in your face for you having the temerity to look at her.

  156. @A123

    What those sources aren’t telling you in those stories is that it is only based on US subsidy. Not only for construction – but they will require operational subsidy since those will be less profitable than overseas fabs. TSMC is already complaining they can’t get enough talent to run them. Likewise Intel says they can’t even get enough labor to build the ones they promised in Ohio.

    Please let us know how those operational subsidies will work. Where will the money come from every year.

    • Replies: @A123
  157. @Anon

    Those are Chinese born engineers who became naturalized citizens and spent most of their careers enriching US companies before returning to China to work. Don’t take my word for it…. Just look up who the individuals… you do realize that without Chinese and Indian talent – Silicon Valley would collapse right? Go there (Silicon Valley) and drive around and see. And see where their overseas talent is also.

  158. A123 says: • Website
    @RoatanBill

    Where do you see this weight of CCP exploitation. … It was US corporations that decided on their own to offshore their manufacturing and China was there with open arms to accept their gift of technology transfer.

    The CCP exploiters linked market access to tech transfer. SJW Globalists MegaCorporations favored “anyone but Christians”. This gruesome twosome worked together crushing American industrial production. The bottom line is:

    Long Term — U.S. workers do not need anything from the CCP.

    However, undoing the damage will take time. Entire skill sets have to be retrained. Lengthy lead time construction is needed for MAGA Reindustrialization.

    The US Fed Gov .. pushed corporation just that bit too hard and they decide to take the options available to them to stay as functioning enterprises

    You are correct. Corrupt elements of the U.S. government collaborated with the CCP for personal gain.

    NAFTA and the WTO sold out American workers. H1B/OPT visas wiped out entry level positions in STEM disciplines and crushed lifetime wages for those who could get in. Outsourcing jobs should be punitively punished.

    High tariffs are not feasible immediately, but rolling them up over time would employ American workers who would have the wages to buy American made goods. It is a virtuous circle.

    There is a way back to a Great America, but it will take decades of consistent effort. The task will last well beyond Trump’s 2nd term. The most that can be achieved in 4 years is starting the process.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  159. @TG

    No Taiwan does have have the full range. Nowhere does. It’s a huge interconnected ecosystem – and the US is trying to carve China – the biggest market – out of it. Taiwan engineers know how to use the tools (from US – Japan – Europe) but it doesn’t make the tools. Mainland China has been advancing because 10% of Taiwan semiconductor engineers already live and work on Mainland China. What Mainland China has been doing is getting overseas Chinese who worked in US tool companies to return to China and start their own companies. That’s why the US is trying this. Those tool making companies are making large advancements. This move by the US is like throwing the proverbial “kitchen sink” to try to slow China down. Like with space and nuclear energy – it is likely to backfire sooner than expected. in 2018 when Trump first started sanctioning Chinese tech… China was “10 years behind”… now in 2022 it is “5 Years behind”…. The rate of catching up is accelerating. China didn’t remain 10 years behind…. It cut further into the lead – so the US only scheme is further sanctions.

  160. Agent76 says:

    October 6, 2022Who’s really running Biden White House? Patrick Wood has the answer: Clue — it’s the same folks who’ve been pretty much running every administration since 1976

    The Trilateral Commission is the gatekeeper of the modern technocracy movement, and technocracy is ground zero for the global totalitarian (beast) system. This organization was co-founded 50 years ago by David Rockefeller and Zbigniew Brzezinski. Trilateralists are the ones today who are pushing the war on carbon, the war on food and the coming world war between Russia-China and U.S.-NATO. Their overall agenda represents a war on humanity and, as such, receives inspiration from the very depths of hell.

    https://leohohmann.com/2022/10/06/whos-really-running-biden-white-house-patrick-wood-has-the-answer-clue-its-the-same-folks-whove-been-pretty-much-running-every-administration-since-1976/#more-11441

    • Replies: @Notsofast
  161. @TheMoon

    Yes, white people are mostly faggots. And they will soon be the minority in the USA. Anyone thinking that white people will be “saving America” or anything like that is retarded. Why should any white person put in effort to “save” a non-white Jewish country anyway? The game now is getting as much as you can and bailing out before the train runs off the cliff.

  162. Alfa158 says:

    It’s unfortunate for the Chinese that they did not plan ahead and start to develop their own engineering and science talent. If they had done so they could have, just guessing, off the top of my head, produced 1,381,145 engineering graduates in 2020 alone. Or they could have, just guessing, off the top of my head, currently have 262,760 STEM students in just US universities alone.
    Not that it would have done them any good. Any number of people will tell you that the Chinese are basically ants with no ability for innovation or creativity. In fact the enormous number of Chinese names in patents and scientific papers are Americans using Chinese pseudonyms to keep our Asiatic friends from developing an inferiority complex.

    • LOL: Hulkamania, Notsofast
  163. @A123

    The CCP exploiters linked market access to tech transfer.

    You’re going to use that flimsy excuse for why you claim CCP exploitation? Don’t you have anything substantial and not just a characterization convenient to your argument, but nonsense?

    Let’s be real. No one put a gun to the head of any corporation to move to China. China didn’t kidnap anyone and force them to sign on the dotted line. US corporations eagerly moved to China for the lower wage rates, lessened environmental restrictions, access to raw materials, lots of engineers and a host of other reasons, not the least of which is access to a burgeoning consumer market of many times the size of the US and growing in wealth and appetite for a better life. I keep wondering when General Motors will relocate to China since they sell more of their crap cars there than in the US. Tech transfer was going to happen with or without some formal agreement since once you see something, you can’t unsee it.

    US workers did get sold out, but they weren’t innocent in the machinations. Unionism with pay rates that exploited the rest of the non union workers in the country forced up the cost of anything unions touched. To compete in a world market, one would have to be a complete idiot not to notice that the labor rates elsewhere were a fraction of the US rate and you have people eager to work and less likely to shut your plant down due to their latest demand. Unionism and the laws that force businesses to deal with legalized extortion will always force people to find a way to circumvent that.

    If the US wants to be competitive, it’s not to give one small but powerful segment of the market above market wages by stealing them from the non union workers. It’s to shut down unions, shut down the useless military and their monumental waste and trim the gargantuan demands the Fed Gov makes against the average guy’s wages. The Fed Gov can be gotten rid of wholesale and the US along with the entire world would be better off. US workers could afford to work for less because they would keep more of what they earned. It’s the Fed Gov’s theft from the average worker that causes them to look for higher wages and that leads to the spiraling effect that led to today.

    As far as visas are concerned, if the US education system would produce something other than dunces, it might not be necessary to import engineers to do the work that actually requires some intelligence and training. The US population specifically makes fun of those geeks that build the entire world those morons live in. The culture has been making fun of slide rule toting nerds for decades preferring to idolize some rapper or other imbecile that happens to know how to manipulate a ball, a child’s toy.

    The US population is going to get a mighty wake up call real soon because the US is losing its hegemonic position and the bulk of the world’s populations are behind the effort to unseat the bully that’s been killing them and stealing from them for decades.

    • Agree: Levtraro
    • Replies: @A123
  164. A123 says: • Website
    @showmethereal

    TSMC is already complaining they can’t get enough talent to run them. Likewise Intel says they can’t even get enough labor to build the ones they promised in Ohio.

    There are plenty of STEM educated U.S. citizens. Many of them left STEM jobs to work for higher pay. There will be a start up process to re-establish the work force. Business Planning 101.

    they will require operational subsidy since those will be less profitable than overseas fabs. … Please let us know how those operational subsidies will work. Where will the money come from every year.

    For facilities that are well sited, operational support will only be needed for the first few years. Once full production is reached, close to the end consumer, the TSMC fabs will be among the most profitable on the planet. . Lower time to deliver by eliminating several weeks at sea in a freighter. The business advantage is obvious and massive.

    How would they work in New York State? I find it surprising that anyone would consider it. Once MAGA Reconstruction policies start appearing, ventures will mostly target Red States. At least it is upstate NY, however I suspect Micron will reconsider their site selection.

    PEACE 😇

  165. Notsofast says:
    @RoatanBill

    ….unless it wants to import the talent….and that seems to be their exact plan. after destroying the e.u. economy, the u.s. will attempt to poach german industry and their skilled work force. texas is offering volkswagen, lucrative tax incentives and the offer of low cost, stable energy supplies. i think they plan to do the same with taiwans semiconductor industry. destroying the e.u. economy will also put many highly educated europeans out of work and those that can afford to leave prison europe will emigrate. the waves of ukrainian refugees have not yet, really begun to wash over the dark and cold e.u.

    i feel sorry for the europeans but they drank the kool aid for years, as has the average american and i’m sure that after their plans fail spectacularly (as they always do), they will just turn around and do the same to us.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  166. @Hulkamania

    China’s rules haven’t changed much, and here they are:

    Article 6: Online information content producers must not make, reproduce, or publish illegal information that contains the following content:

    (1) Content opposing the basic principles set forth in the Constitution;

    (2) Content endangering national security, divulging state secrets, subverting the national regime, and destroying national unity;

    (3) Content harming the nation’s honor and interests;

    (4) Content distorting, vilifying, defiling, or denying the deeds and spirit of heroes and martyrs; or harming the names, images, reputations, and honor of heroes and martyrs through insult, defamation, or other such means;

    (5) Content advocating terrorism or extremism, or inciting the commission of terrorist or extremist activities;

    (6) Content inciting ethnic hatred or ethnic discrimination, or undermining ethnic unity;

    (7) Content undermining the nation’s policy on religions, or promoting cults and superstitions;

    (8) Dissemination of rumors, disrupting economic or social order;

    (9) Disseminating obscenity, sex, gambling, violence, murder, terror, or instigating crime;

    (10) Content insulting or defaming others, or infringing other persons’ honor, privacy, or other lawful rights and interests;

    (11) Other content prohibited by laws or administrative regulations.

    Article 7: Online Information Content Producers shall employ measures to prevent and resist the making, reproduction, or publication of negative information containing the following content:

    (1) Use of exaggerated titles, or titles that seriously do not fit the content;

    (2) Sensationalizing gossip, scandals, misdeeds, etc.;

    (3) Improper comments on natural disasters, major accidents, or other disasters;

    (4) Content that has sexual innuendo, is sexually suggestive, or is readily associated with sex;

    (5) Content such as gore or horror that causes physical or psychological discomfort;

    (6) Content inciting discrimination against groups or regions;

    (7) Content promoting coarse, crass, or vulgar content;

    (8) Content that might lead minors to imitate unsafe behaviors or behavior that violates social mores, or that induces bad habits for minors, etc.;

    (9) Other content with a negative impact on the online ecosystem.

    Chapter III: Online Information Content Service Platforms

    Article 8: Online information content service platforms shall carry out entity responsibility for information content management, strengthen the platforms’ governance of the online information content ecosystem, and cultivate an online culture that is positive, healthy, and supportive.

    Article 9: Online information content service platforms shall establish mechanisms for the governance of the online information content ecosystem, create detailed rules for governance of the online information content ecosystem on that platform, and establish systems such as for user registration, account management, information review for publication, review of comments for posting, management of the page and site layout ecosystem, real-time inspections, emergency response, and the handling of online rumors, and links to ‘black’ [off the books or illegal] industries and information.

    Online information content service platforms shall set up a person responsible for the governance of the online information content ecosystem, assigning specialized personnel corresponding to the scope of operations and the service model, and strengthening training and evaluations, to increase the caliber of employees in this area.

    Article 10: Online information content service platforms must not transmit the information provided for in article 6 of these Provisions and shall prevent and resist the transmission of the information provided for in article 7 of these Provisions.

    Online information content service platforms shall strengthen the management of information content, and where information provided for in articles 6 or 7 of these Provisions is discovered, shall immediately employ measures to address it in accordance with law, storing relevant records, and report to the relevant regulatory departments.

    Another unfamiliar aspect of Chinese censorship, democratic centralism, can be found in their constitution: “After democratic and open discussion during policy formulation, once agreement is reached and policies are legislated, discussion is suspended while everyone unites to implement them”. Democratic discussion + unified action.

    • Replies: @Hulkamania
  167. @A123

    China has been exporting domestically manufactured 7nm chips in quantity for almost 18 months and expects to have 5nm within 6 months.
    China is self-sufficient in 14nm+.

    • Agree: JamesinNM
    • LOL: A123
  168. frankie p says:
    @A123

    Actually, who the hell would want to depend on Americans to improve their semiconductor fabs? Intel pretty much started outsourcing their wafer fab work to TSMC a few years ago before Biden and the evil congress printed a bunch of money and put it in the trough for semiconductor companies to produce in the US.

    SMIC depends on the likes of Liang Mong Song, one of the geniuses responsible for many of the breakthroughs that occurred at TSMC. Liang worked at TSMC from 1992 to 2009; he was involved in memories and advanced logic process technology developments. Dr. Liang owns over 450 patents and has published over 350 technical papers. I guess he’s a tough guy to work with, and after TSMC passed him up for a position he wanted, he jumped ship and went to Korea, initially teaching at Seoul University to avoid the 2-year no-compete clause he signed with TSMC, but eventually ending up at Samsung, where he led them to breakthroughs that allowed them to leapfrog (16nm, 14nm) TSMC.

    In 2017, Dr. Liang made the move to SMIC, bringing a large team of hand picked engineers with him. He was named the Co-CEO of the company. In the years he has been at SMIC, Liang has enabled the company to successfully mass-produced FinFETs, and this year SMIC fabbed 7nm wafers for customers.

    SMIC is not far behind TSMC and UMC, and the China market for high-end chips is big enough that they will NEVER have to export.

    No Americans involved.

    • Agree: Hulkamania
    • Replies: @showmethereal
  169. A123 says: • Website
    @RoatanBill

    I do not disagree with many of you observations about the dysfunctional state box U.S. education and industrial policy.

    Why do you not grasp that one of the reasons why it is so bad is CCP exploiters (among others) put money into politics to make it this bad for U.S workers?

    Blame the organ grinder, not the monkeys.

    PEACE 😇

    • Disagree: Hulkamania
    • Troll: mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  170. JamesinNM says:

    It wasn’t Biden or the deep state. Who really did it?

  171. Mike Whitney’s factual piece is missing out on a crucial detail: Zionist Biden along with his Jewish owners inside his administration, together with an Affirmative Action defense secretary will not stray from extending their global hegemony, regardless of the potential for yet another world war. Their provoking two past world wars continues on to the next, this time with a fuck the rest of humanity caveat. White America reaps what it sows.

    • Agree: JR Foley
  172. @Godfree Roberts

    Almost all of this is how the USA was historically, too, until Jewish pornographers redefined the term “free speech” to mean freedom to peddle obscenity in public. Ironically, the Communist Party of China is closer to American founding ideals on speech than 2022 USA is.

  173. @Notsofast

    I don’t think the fat lady has sung yet as concerns Europe, specifically Germany. The Germans have a reputation and even a stereotype of being efficient, industrious and to some extent Prussian in their attitude toward belligerence. These 1st world people are not going to take being purposely thrown back centuries due to their political class of fools. I expect that with the proper coaxing that cold temperatures will bring, there will be a reaction by their corporate world as well as the industrial workers that largely support their economy.

    When things get existential, one should expect a reaction equal to the threat.

    My expectation is that the EU will fall apart, the Euro will be put on rolls to be displayed in that small room and a new set of criminals, but with the correct attitude at the moment, will cause the disintegration of NATO, will get the US bases closed and will reestablish a relationship with Russia.

    Putin has been very easy on the European people, it has been their idiot political class that has caused all the damage. Demonstrations are aimed at their politicians and their overlords in Brussels, not Russia, by and large. Putin want the US out of Europe and the best way to accomplish that is to have the German people see that he’s not their problem but could be their salvation if they only get rid of the crew of incompetents now in charge.

    • Agree: Levtraro
    • Thanks: JR Foley
    • Replies: @Notsofast
  174. Notsofast says:
    @Agent76

    and people say poles aren’t smart, old zbig is as intelligent as goebbels, too bad his kids are as intelligent as gerbils.

  175. @A123

    What I grasp is that you have half abandoned your untenable previous position and have latched onto a new and improved one – corruption in the ranks of the US elite. Say it isn’t so!

    Why not try to correct my analysis that pretty clearly lays out who did what and why. Self interest and the survival instinct will always attempt to surface regardless of laws and other nuisance issues for the corporations. Greed, power, influence peddling is what politicians live for; a perfect marriage.

    Corporations didn’t need to be bribed to want lower cost and less hassle. China didn’t have to bribe Congress to make the moves possible or to prevent them from interfering in them. The stock market, insider trading and the greed of the political class saw the clear advantages to their personal bank accounts to go along with the deindustrialization of the country. That’s simply what scum politicians do. That’s why people elect them, to screw them repeatedly at every opportunity; at least that’s how it can be interpreted.

    The CCP exploited no one. They were the recipients of gifts via the exploitation that the US political class and the corporations engineered with little if any significant urging by China. The corporations saw an opportunity and the politicians saw a profit. That’s all it took to get the ball rolling.

    As usual the average working guy took it on the chin primarily because he’s stupid. He keeps voting for one POS after the next and expects a change that hasn’t happened in half a century. I can feel sorry for their plight, but they kept making the same mistake over and over again all under their control.

    • Agree: showmethereal
    • Thanks: JR Foley
    • Replies: @A123
  176. @The_Masterwang

    Yes the White vs Yellow race war is approaching.

    A peculiar development, though unfortunately true.

    The vast majority – I would suggest the overwhelming majority – of White Honkies all around the world have no particular quarrel with the Chinese people, in fact their most pressing concerns right now involve surviving attempted genocide by their own governments.

    The reverse is probably also true – the Chinese people mainly just want to raise a family and live their lives, as do the bulk of humanity.

    So who exactly is driving the push to all-out war? It’s certainly not Joe Biden, despite the popularity of the phrase “The Biden Administration” – sleepy Joe neither owns any administration nor does he have any clue what he is doing for most of his waking hours. He’s a puppet – a cringingly obvious one – who gets paid to read scripts (poorly and erratically) and revel in the delusion that he’s “the prez”, even though he was never actually elected to the position.

    Seems to me that, in a perfect world, the hidden handlers calling all the shots from behind the curtain would be dragged out into the sunlight and summarily strung up on lamp posts. And all their paid mercenaries and complicit stooges.

    And then we might all be finally be able to get some untroubled sleep – all 8 billion of us.

    • Agree: JR Foley
    • Replies: @The_Masterwang
  177. @A123

    You are simply not living in reality. These TSMC fabs are not coming to the US organically. It is with political persuasion. And it is reality the US has to subsidize them. The industry left for a reason.

    Also for it’s size the US does not have a large STEM workforce per capita. Also you might want to check math and science scores.

    • Agree: nokangaroos
    • Replies: @brostoevsky
  178. @Biff

    No, they will import a slew full of H-1B Indian (dots, not feathers) engineers they can pay 1/2 what they would have to pay a U.S. engineer.

    • Replies: @Biff
  179. Notsofast says:
    @RoatanBill

    that would seem to be the best possible outcome and a delicious irony. the hubris of these neocons is intolerable and at some point they are going to get smacked down.

  180. @frankie p

    You are correct… There are many more like him too…. But some of them became naturalized US citizens – and so now they have a tough decision to make.

  181. What is really going on here now is this:

    The power is the power over life and death. It’s the unconscious power of Money. It’s the bitter flavor we were tasting when we thought we declared our Independence from England. It’s the taste of radical political and economic oppression exercised by powerful and wealthy tyrants demanding extreme and absolute control of money and government. That’s what you get when you combine the Systems of Economics and Government signified by the elites. It demands a ruthlessly honest re-evaluation of all existing forms of Business and Government. No Lies tolerated. No hiding possible.
    They want to deny you living a real and vibrant life.

    We witness the rise of madly Frantic efforts on the part of the wealthy members of the status-quo as they struggle in a loosing battle to hold on to their worn out and increasingly eroded sense of privilege. It’s the Time of the Death of established “Law and Order”.

  182. frankie p says:
    @A123

    What a clown! Lower delivery time by eliminating several weeks in a freighter! As if the downstream testing, packaging and subsequent installation in digital devices is in the US! Clue for you, moron. The shipping of Arizona-produced wafers will be towards Asia, where a complete downstream process awaits. The only wafers that will remain in the US will go to the Department of Defense, the REAL reason the US needed TSMC in the US. And if you believe that TSMC will open 6 fabs in Arizona, I have an underground aquifer that I would like to sell you. Do you know how much water is used in a semiconductor fab? Do you have any idea how dry Arizona is right now. You also realize that Morris Chang, retired chairman of TSMC, openly said that costs for wafers produced in the US will be AT LEAST 50% higher than in Taiwan? Unprofitable, unfeasible, inorganic.

    • Agree: antibeast
    • Thanks: showmethereal
  183. JR Foley says:
    @Anon

    A typical racist but confused whether you are a Jew after the tribe of Leona Helmsley or a follower of Trump —both Jew companions and reason why USA in the dumps. Biden is the alternative but he is a load short of a full deck? Has anyone seen Vince McMahon lately —??

  184. JR Foley says:
    @meamjojo

    China STEM –Science – Technology- Engineering- Math versus USA today? What are the figures. The Forecast for China is a demand of 80,000,000 Engineers withing 10 years —-and it will indeed be there for the record .. Canada –England and USA are beyond the need for STEM graduates when a half literate student can enter some political science – American History- American Psychology-USA Sociology –Geography- Debating Course and graduate and then become a hedge fund manager working in the Big Apple making millions or become a lawyer earning billions ???

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  185. JR Foley says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    There was a recent event in Hollywood circles planning a re-make of Addams Family with a real life Uncle Fester and I suggested: “Mike Pompeo” —bible on the desk and motto on wall “Sure we lied-sure we stole –sure we cheated” while having a chat with his sponsors “Koch Brothers” and laughing about drilling on USA public lands but not paying Royalties.

    Then a phone call —long silence and it is Peter Navarro with a new idea to apply import duties to 90% against Chinese imports. Pompeo then sticks a light bulb into his mouth –it lights up and Charles Koch yells “Phone Trump —you are the light of the World”. Call made —long silence and then Mike Pompeo exclaims ” Donald is upset –Joe Biden is now granting Amtrak a 25 Trillion package to get Amtrak moving.

    Will this suffice –I am being serious ???

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  186. @JR Foley

    Now that Pompeo has the lean and hungry look, perhaps he’s be a better Lurch. Or we could chop off his hand…..

  187. @JR Foley

    Watching ‘woke’ students screaming and gibbering like rabid mandrills, in order to drown out debate, I rather fear, or, to be honest, hope, that the future of the Exceptional intelligentsia is as black as Mike Pompeo’s heart.

  188. @Mevashir

    You shouldn’t bother associating with Jews, most if not all despise you and consider themselves superior to you. They have truly become the enemies of freedom and the human race. The time to shun the Jew has come.

  189. @showmethereal

    China will likely take Taiwan by force very soon, which will destroy all American plans with computer chip manufacturing. Also Pelosi’s stock portfolio will take a nose dive. There’ll be nothing the US government can do about Chinese reunification. As ship’s a fool to attack a fort. Western militaries are stretched too thin and have given away large chunks of their stockpiles to the Ukrainians only to have them destroyed or taken by the Russians. The West was outsmarted by Putin and Xi. Not hard to do considering who we have in power in the West. One name Liz Truss… She’s dryer than Ghandi’s flipflop.

  190. Biff says:
    @Enemy of Earth

    No, they will import a slew full of H-1B Indian (dots, not feathers) engineers they can pay 1/2 what they would have to pay a U.S. engineer.

    That’s already happened, and it’s still not enough to fill the void.

  191. @Ultrafart the Brave

    Coexistence is only possible when fighting over resources and lebensraum promises an inferior return to minding your own business. But the Malthusian nature of the world means scarcity inevitably occurs. Notice the Western media complaining about the Chinese consume too much resources and produce too much pollution while ignoring the fact that the average White consumes and pollutes far more? White racial instinct surfacing. Because of scarcity the relationship between races can only be zero-sum.

    The human animals has evolved the instinct to exterminate the Other to secure their own existence. Those you call deranged racists are simply responsible people who are willing to look further ahead.

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  192. antibeast says:
    @A123

    The CHIPS Act looks more like a desperate attempt by the Biden Administration to save Intel from TSMC and Samsung by disguising this bailout fund as a technology investment. Intel’s competition is not coming from SMIC in China but from TSMC in Taiwan and Samsung in South Korea. By bailing out Intel, the USA wants to protect its own US semiconductor manufacturing industries from Taiwan and South Korea. That is the real intent of the CHIPS Act, not to ensure national security by imposing technology sanctions against China, whose semiconductor manufacturing industries lag behind Taiwan and South Korea. Otherwise, why did the Biden Administration pressure TSMC and Samsung to build wafer fabs in the USA? How is that related to China? The answer is obvious: the USA wants to hollow out the semiconductor industries in Taiwan and South Korea in order to promote its own US semiconductor industries. What the Biden Administration fears the most is for the USA to lose its semiconductor manufacturing industries not to China but to Taiwan and South Korea. That’s what drove Biden’s CHIPS Act which is a replay of the USA’s Sematech consortium against Japan back in the 1990s. The rest of the China bashing is just a red herring.

    • Replies: @Obsequious
  193. @showmethereal

    What about the Chinese chip manufacturers, though? None of them will receive a reprieve from the US and the sanctions will decimate them.

  194. A123 says: • Website
    @RoatanBill

    You missed this up at #11. Let me repeat it for you, with bold added for clarity: (1)

    CCP Elites, Globalists traitors, and other grifters will try to stop this change.

    However, it is far too late for the SJW MegaCorporations to put Humpty Dumpty Back Together Again

    With the bold do you now see what you previously overlooked?

    I am glad that you are finally coming around to my position. You now agree with me — The CCP, MegaCorporation Elites, and others have shared culpability.

    Let us go back to the goal I previously stated up in #3 that you also missed: (2)

    American citizens want to recapture this dream.

    ========================
        Good Jobs at
            Good Wages for
                American Citizens
    ========================

    The answer is MAGA Reindustrialization. Resource extraction, refining, manufacturing, etc. need to come back to the U.S. These industries are essential to have good jobs at good wages.

    Where are these jobs now? The leading (but not only) country under cutting U.S. citizens is China.

    Do you see how MAGA Reindustrialization implies a gradual decoupling from CCP resource extraction, refining, manufacturing, etc. ?

    As I stated previously in both #3 and #11, there others are involved. Fixing the problem is not 100% about China. As I indicated above, before your first post in this thread, there are other culprits beyond the CCP.

    Thanks for coming around to my view point.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/bidens-tech-war-goes-nuclear/#comment-5608684

    (2) https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/bidens-tech-war-goes-nuclear/#comment-5608435

    • Replies: @Hulkamania
    , @RoatanBill
  195. Zane says:

    Biden does not decide anything. His handlers tell him what to do.

  196. @A123

    America cannot reindustrialize and compete with China because America has a much lower quality of people than China does.

    • Replies: @Graveldips
  197. @A123

    I really didn’t think you were this used car salesman slimy. I wasn’t expecting that, but then everyone on this site has their suspicions about your motives and maybe they’re correct.

    I see you might have taken a sales class. “Assume the sale” is an old gimmick but you used it incorrectly. You are supposed to be subtle about it and act as though you’ve made the sale, not trumpet it out loud and way over the top at that. You’re welcome.

    See what I just did? Subtle.

    Where do you see this weight of CCP exploitation.

    The above was my original query to you. In no part of that was anything but the CCP mentioned. It was specific to your assertion that the CCP was exploiting the US in some way and I wanted you to provide some backing for that bald assertion. So far I’ve received nothing of substance in that regard. I have received misdirection, the inclusion of other entities that did exploit the US in some way, but still, any evidence of CCP involvement is missing.

    To be honest, I didn’t think for a moment you would produce any evidence for your charge as I’m unaware of any worth mentioning. This really was an exercise to highlight your mendacity which others have also done in the past. I did expect a better showing on your part using some form of twisted logic at least, but your performance was distinctly subpar. You would have been better off ignoring my post instead of digging the hole deeper.

    I know I shouldn’t have fed the troll, but your compact one line lie was too much for me to ignore. I don’t like the CCP because it’s just the Chinese version of a mafia with it’s peculiar characteristics. I don’t like any of the world’s mafias, but I don’t go around making things up and expecting people not to notice.

    If you’ll do me the favor of keeping your lying more subtle with at least a reasonable hint of truth in it, I’ll not shine a light on it. Should you reply, I’ll not waste more of my time reading it.

    • Replies: @A123
  198. @brostoevsky

    You sound a lot of like Douglas Macgregor.

  199. @Obsequious

    Then I suppose no one will be getting their new iPhones or Tesla cars.

  200. @antibeast

    That’s exactly right. Forcing TSMC and Samsung to set up production in the US is intended to even the playing field in terms of cost for Intel, and Intel is getting the lion’s share of the CHIPS subsidies that will hopefully ensure that it comes out on top against its Asian rivals. In Taiwan there is an implicit understanding that our semiconductor industry is being hollowed out but we’re powerless to do anything about it. South Korea, though, is putting up a fight against the US.

    • Agree: showmethereal
    • Replies: @antibeast
  201. A123 says: • Website
    @RoatanBill

    ROTFLMAO… Why do you lie in a such an obviously way?

     
    Your pathetic strawmanning is not effective. You made up this fake position about “100% CCP” that I never had. Then you have the temerity to try to co-opt my own position as yours.

    Are you kidding?!?!?!?
    ____

    If you want examples of CCP exploitation you do not have to look far. (1)

    the U.S. Trade Representative estimated in 2018 that Chinese theft of American IP costs U.S. firms between $225 billion and $600 billion every year. General Keith Alexander, a former National Security Agency director, has called China’s technology theft “the greatest transfer of wealth in human history.”

    Members of Congress should revisit the full range and scope of the Chinese Communist Party’s foreign-technology-and-science-acquisition programs and address them in the bill. A crucial fact for congressmen to consider is that acquisition of foreign technology is not an incidental or secondary concern of Beijing’s grand strategy; it is a core component of Beijing’s ambition to be the world’s leading power. The CCP believes that erosion of the U.S. technological base is a requirement for its grand designs. Indeed, General Secretary Xi Jinping has made acquiring “key core technologies” one of his foremost goals.

    If you do not like that source, simply search on “CCP IP theft”.

    No doubt you will try to blame IP Theft on someone else too, because deception is your core value. I bet you are far too lazy to provide anything of value.

    Please, stop strawmanning by extracting a single two word phrase out of a complex web of interrelated issues. Your attempt to Rearrange the Deck Chairs will not stop your Titanic from sinking.

    In short, try to be more serious instead of ranting.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/06/china-is-stealing-our-technology-and-intellectual-property-congress-must-stop-it/

    • Troll: mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  202. @The_Masterwang

    Coexistence is only possible when fighting over resources and lebensraum promises an inferior return to minding your own business.

    You’re speaking from the point of view of the elite classes – of those that would be King (or in the Satanic Globalists’ case, of those that would exterminate 90% of humanity and rule with an iron fist over whatever remained).

    This does not translate to the outlook of the common classes which comprise the bulk of humanity, which the Globalists call the “useless eaters”, who generally just want to be left alone to live their lives in peace.

    As for international or global conflict in pursuit of resources, again for the overwhelming majority of humanity occupying the “useless eater” caste, minding one’s own business is universally a far preferable option to the consequences of war.

    Coexistence of the masses of humanity is therefore only necessarily precluded by the corrupt cabals who hijack the machinery of government for their own selfish ends. This is by no means a given – it is actively catalysed by vested interests.

    [MORE]

    Notice the Western media complaining about the Chinese consume too much resources and produce too much pollution while ignoring the fact that the average White consumes and pollutes far more?

    Perhaps you should take the time to read and reflect upon George Orwell’s dystopian classic, “1984”. When the Western media complains, you are hearing the sentiments of the tiny but powerful carnivorous ruling class that has subverted the entire Western world to serve its interests. Whatever diminishing proportion of Western citizenry continues to accept the Western media narrative enforced by the ruling elite only do so because they have been brainwashed since birth and don’t know any better.

    China would do the Western peoples an inestimably great service if it could find a way to wipe out that tiny ruling minority in the West that has no loyalty to anyone but themselves. Believe it or not, the Western people themselves are becoming increasingly motivated to find a way to do exactly that.

    White racial instinct surfacing.

    No, predatory elitist instincts surfacing. There’s a difference.

    The human animals has evolved the instinct to exterminate the Other to secure their own existence.

    The “instinct to exterminate the Other” is what might otherwise be labled “tribalism”.

    It’s true that humans, as a herding species, have an inbuilt desire to align their views and behaviours with those most familiar to them, and have a corresponding suspicion of those whose appearance or customs fall outside their habitual experience.

    Although a natural consequence of human nature, I regard the prevalence and amplification of the tribal impulse to serve vested interests (as is manifest in the currently growing international tensions) to be a devolution of human society which is very much against its collective best interests.

    Those you call deranged racists are simply responsible people who are willing to look further ahead.

    As I have not actually accused anyone of being “deranged racists”, I presume your intention with this statement is rhetorical. However, I am unable to parse your logic.

    On one hand, I would have expected that someone who qualifies for the label of “deranged racist” might be classified as an evolutionally retarded psycopath prone to extreme tribal tendencies – hardly someone concerned with humanity’s collective future.

    On the other hand, anyone who is willing to look further ahead might be expected to be cognizant of the consequences of the choices made by human societies, and therefore would emphatically reject racial characterizations devoid of factual substantiation – certainly not the posture of a “deranged racist”.

    However, if you happen to be a “deranged racist” yourself, then that would entirely change the tenor of your statement.

    • Replies: @The_Masterwang
  203. Joe Wong says:

    The Americans have been bombing and killing around the world on the fabricated phantom WMD allegation as humanitarian aids. The US government openly announced their national motto is “we lie, we cheat and we steal.” The US government is totally untrustworthy.

    Quoting statements from the US Government as supporting evidence is like using a vial of detergent to prove that Iraqi did have WMD, it is simply a doublethink.

  204. antibeast says:
    @Obsequious

    Forcing TSMC and Samsung to set up production in the US is intended to even the playing field in terms of cost for Intel, and Intel is getting the lion’s share of the CHIPS subsidies that will hopefully ensure that it comes out on top against its Asian rivals.

    The Biden Administration tried to pull a ‘bait-and-switch’ on TSMC and Samsung by promising them US government subsidies and then not fulfilling those promises. At least Terry Gou was smart enough to do opposite by pulling a ‘bait-and-switch’ on Wisconsin. Now both TSMC and Foxconn are scaling down their planned investments in the USA.

    In Taiwan there is an implicit understanding that our semiconductor industry is being hollowed out but we’re powerless to do anything about it. South Korea, though, is putting up a fight against the US.

    Unless the USA forces TSMC to close down, the semiconductor industry in Taiwan will do just fine. South Korea is powerless because it is under US military occupation while Taiwan is not powerless because it is legally part of China. All the Taiwanese need to do is to agree to unite with China. Once Taiwan is politically part of China, there is nothing the USA can do about it.

    • Replies: @showmethereal
    , @Obsequious
  205. antibeast says:
    @Obsequious

    The new semiconductor fabrication plants were intended for lagging-edge chips but they will have to be postponed or canceled until China can source second-hand equipment from other countries. But China can still invest in the upstream and downstream sectors of the semiconductor industry while developing its homegrown mid-stream semiconductor fabrication equipment sector which would take about 5-10 years. In the meantime, Taiwan and South Korea would most likely take up the slack in producing the lagging-edge chips that China had planned to manufacture which would have taken market share away from the USA.

    China’s semiconductor wafer fabrication industries are mostly for lagging-edge chips which do not really compete against US semiconductor companies. Taiwan and South Korea — not China — are the real competitors to the USA. That’s the real intent of the CHIPS Act which is to cripple the semiconductor industries in Taiwan and South Korea, in order to save the US semiconductor manufacturing industry.

    Here’s a graph of the market share in the global semiconductor logic foundry industry:

    Here’s a graph of the market share in the global semiconductor memory industry:

    As seen in the above graphs, the USA is losing badly to Taiwan and South Korea. This is Toshiba deja vu all over again!

  206. TXJoe says:

    It is apparent that Russia and China are too slow to act and too naive to think that the US will abide by international law!The CIA is tasked with destabilizing Russia and China and so far they’re running circles around Beijing and the Kremlin. We’ll see if the Chinese will be able to save its semi conductor tech companies. Challenging Biden’s order in court would be futile. Whatever Beijing does, it needs to be do it with a lightening strike, economic or military. Otherwise China will experience the same results the Kremlin did facing an enemy that couldn’t stand ten days against it, still standing today (albeit losing too many soldiers) and fighting because Russia is still “dilly dallying” around! A bold move would be for both Russia and China cease to recognize the USD, tough to do when they have 3 trillions of it! One would have to be insane to accept a currency created from thin air for real products? The Chinese will surely escalate leading to WW3, with nukes flying everywhere and that’s what the western elites want!

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  207. Che Guava says:
    @Biff

    O.K., I’ve never been there, and, from reading, I know the state education system’s are FUBAR, but also know from ‘net and life connections, much talent there is simply being discarded, you have talented U.S.-born coders and hackers and other talents working shit jobs in fast-food and supermarkets and other such because the national govt. prefers to employ a flood of mainly Indians, mostly talentless, but all hyper-stuck-up, to take all of the jobs.

  208. @brostoevsky

    Well part of the reason the US is twisting arms to get not just TSMC – but also Samsung – to move advanced manufacturing fans (through huge subsidy) to the US is in case of war in the Taiwan Strait or the Korean Peninsula. South Korean firms are more resistant though. Honestly though – war will only happen if provoked. But hey they provoked over Ukraine- so I guess It is possible

  209. @Hulkamania

    America does need to improve the quality of its people. The solution is racism and patriarchy.

    Start with deporting immigrants, illegal or legal, who do not belong. No Africans, Moslems, or Hindus at all. No “Viva la Raza” types, nor any criminals. No non-Whites who badmouth Whites on social media. Next, sterilize criminals and chronic welfare recipients. Third, hang drug dealers, molesters, and any other major felons. And of course, destroy the Woke and their paymasters. That’s the stick.

    The carrot is to fix the schools, largely by purging them. Train young White men in useful things, math, foreign languages, trades, the sort of thing we were taught 60 years ago. Teach them the truth about our people and other peoples, about Blacks, Jews, and homos. Yes, it will take decades, but the alternative is slavery.

    No, this is not possible under our current regime, but it’s collapsing as we watch, so we will need to create something better.

  210. @Obsequious

    Nah. Only SMIC is below 28nm. All the others are above.( YMTC and Changxin on the memory side are at 18 and 22 respectively- but again it’s memory so different). But in terms of supply chain China is self sufficient now at 28nm and almost self sufficient down to 14 nm. And not too far off in the 7nm realm either (maybe a couple of years). That’s where the problem lies for China. Below 7nm China only has a few tool and chemical companies like AMEC who are involved (AMEC is used by TSMC in their 5nm process already). SMIC has overloaded on foreign tools that will keep it able to produce down to 7nm – for the foreseeable future – until local tool replacements can be developed (tool and software companies work directly with fabs to develop future tools so we can be assured all Chinese companies in the chain are now being given full access to SMIC fabs to come up with replacements). YMTC and Changxin I can’t say for certain by I do know that last year Japanese media was reporting YMTC was doing similar with Japanese companies (buying up inventory) because they expected to be blacklisted as well.
    But here is the thing. The VAST majority of global chip demand is for 28nm and above. Chinese fabs make their money there. So no – this will only delay China by maybe a couple of years. And if in the next 3 to 5 years China figures a way around EUV’s to go 5nm and below – it will be game over. There will be nothing else the US could do.

    US tool and software companies in the industry make up to 1/3 of their revenue from China collectively. If they are replaced by local Chinese companies completely- where can they make up 1/3 of revenue??? The demand is in China. They can hope for India – but that is at least 20 years away. What happens to them between now then? How will they find R&D funds to remain at the top of the curve??? Will the US gov subsidize??

    • Replies: @antibeast
  211. @antibeast

    South Korea has been vocal against a Chips 4 blockade against China that Biden has been trying. They also complained about the new EV rules that will penalize foreign made EV’s for subsidy since Korean makes keep there manufacturing of EV’s at home. So South Korea does TRY to stand up for themselves sometimes

    • Replies: @The_Masterwang
  212. antibeast says:
    @showmethereal

    But here is the thing. The VAST majority of global chip demand is for 28nm and above. Chinese fabs make their money there. So no – this will only delay China by maybe a couple of years.

    The effect of the US tech ban on semiconductor manufacturing equipment is going to be 5-10 years delay in building homegrown equipment in China. That’s for Chinese companies like AMEC which has succeeded in selling its deposition/etch equipment to MOCVD companies for fabricating GaN, SiC, LED devices. But AMEC has not succeeded in selling to SMIC because their products are way behind the curve. So the interim solution would be to buy older but refurbished equipment from other countries which has been happening for a number of years.

    Instead of attacking the mid-stream semiconductor wafer fabrication sector, China is trying a new strategy of targeting the upstream (Design/CAD/IPBlocks) as well as the downstream (packaging, assembly, testing) sectors of the global semiconductor industry value-chain. That’s where China I think will have the most success. After all, a semiconductor chip is useless without the circuits and packaging to be used in electronics products. Speaking of electronics products, China’s electronics manufacturing industries account for 70-80% market share in the world. They used to be labor-intensive which was why the USA, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and Europe outsourced them to China. But China has been leading the way to automate them which makes China’s dominant role in this crucial industry sector irreplaceable as it consists of tens of thousands of electronics factories churning out the electronics parts, components and subsystems that make up an electronics product.

    And if in the next 3 to 5 years China figures a way around EUV’s to go 5nm and below – it will be game over. There will be nothing else the US could do.

    SMEE’s lithography equipment is still at a prototype stage and will not affect the EUV market in the foreseeable future. China’s best bet is to target the upstream sector (Design, CAD, IPBlocks) as well as the downstream sector (packaging, assembly and testing) because that’s where a lot of innovation is going to happen in the next few years. My prediction is that China will adopt the Chiplet business model where fabless companies can sell their IPBlocks to be designed as part of Chiplets which are then assembled on a package. The other innovations I see happening is in Computer Architecture, especially in MPP to be used in AI chips for servers.

    5nm and below are really useful only for mobile devices such as smartphones and notebooks due to their need for low-power consumption. Let TSMC and Samsung and Intel slug it out in that market which I predict will suffer from a massive glut in production capacity in the next few years. You need high volumes to make a profit in that capital-intensive business. If the US government does not allow Intel to sell its semiconductor products or foundry services to China, then how would it survive against TSMC and Samsung?

  213. Lez says: • Website
    @Cook

    That is right.

    Factually, the Race for What’s Left taken with the disposition of certain very important people, by their self-estimations, to risk everything to lose nothing creates the risks everyone is facing into.

    Some more history of The West, notably The US and China is discussed here . . . https://les7eb.substack.com/p/ukraine-long-proxy-war-vi-god-favours

  214. @Ultrafart the Brave

    You seem to think there’s a fundamental difference, some kind of moral and spiritual disconnect, between the masses and the ruling elite. I believe the only difference between them is the power they hold. Pluck a random guy off the street and give him power. Present before him the full picture of the state of the world. What do you think will become of him?

    In any case, evolution isn’t teleological. Anything subject to selection pressure inevitable evolve to suit the environment. Since tribalistic psychology has evolved to be part of fundamental human nature, you probably should give genocide a chance – it must have aided the survival of your ancestors. Just wait for the push to come to shove, so to speak. You will see your innocent common people adopting the ideas of the elite.

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  215. @Graveldips

    America would do much better to purge racist imbeciles like you. As no sane country, with Ukraine about to disappear, would have you, they’ll need to perfect time travel, and send you back to apartheid South Africa or Nazi Germany, where you’ll fit right in.

    • Replies: @Graveldips
  216. @showmethereal

    South Korea has just cucked and is now completely subservient to American interest. They are now in the process of actively provoking war with North Korea and China on behalf of the US.

  217. @A123

    That’s your ‘evidence’ is Zionazi troll? The lies of a US regime thug, who, somehow, appears to be a goy, although he is only quoted as a ‘source’. The Trade Representative in 2018 was Lighthizer, a fanatic enemy of China, who seems to think that mindless bullying, the US preference in all matters, will work with China.
    The Report is full of the usual lies, but you live by, through and for lies, don’t you, troll? Every country on Earth seeks to obtain technology, covertly or overtly, with the Zionazi entity a leading actor. Snowden showed that, as for decades, even over a century, the USA remains the world’s leading IP thief.

  218. @Graveldips

    You cannot accomplish those honorable goals without a proper revolution where the enemy tribe is systematically exterminated. I don’t think you have the capacity for that. And you can expect the rest of the world to kick you really hard when you are down. Don’t even have to look to non-Whites. The Russians will be the first to get their revenge.

    • Replies: @Avery
  219. @The_Masterwang

    You seem to think there’s a fundamental difference, some kind of moral and spiritual disconnect, between the masses and the ruling elite.

    Yes indeed – the entire Australian political class, for example, from the top echelons of the Federal Government all the way down to local city councils, has been infested with paid traitors and Globalist stooges beholden to the directions of an international Satanic cult which worships Lucifer and sacrifices children. There assuredly is a spiritual dimension to the predicament currently faced by the collapsing Western Empire.

    I believe the only difference between them is the power they hold. Pluck a random guy off the street and give him power. Present before him the full picture of the state of the world. What do you think will become of him?

    I do not share this view. IMO the majority of people are motivated by good intentions and empathy for their fellow citizens. By contrast, the bulk of the Western political and corporate classes are fundamentally greedy lying arseholes – a prerequisite for their ascension to the lofty corridors of influence and success in a dog-eat-dog ecosystem, or as you might say, a “zero sum game”. Those dynamics are epitomised by the typical behaviour of the mega-rich billionaire class – they don’t get that wealthy from being a bunch of nice guys, and those are the very people who are now pushing to exterminate 90% of humanity. That is undeniable – if in doubt, just purchase and read Klaus Schwab’s book. It doesn’t matter if you or I or anyone else subscribe to their particular outlook, because they do, and they have the money, power, influence and consolidated resources (including legions of complict stooges entrenched in governments throughout the world) to make it happen.

    In any case, evolution isn’t teleological. Anything subject to selection pressure inevitable evolve to suit the environment.

    For better or worse, I’m not persuaded by your reasoning. “Evolution”, after all, is just a theory. If we accept for the sake of argument that evolution is a “thing” (and IMO that’s a tenuous proposition at best), then global humanity – in order to survive at all as a harmonious and tolerant international community – must necessarily “evolve” beyond the destructive effects of the tribal impulse, if as you suggest a species will “evolve to suit the environment”. The alternative, given the simultaneous “evolution”of technological wonders, is extinction.

  220. Avery says:
    @The_Masterwang

    { The Russians will be the first to get their revenge.}

    Nope.

    Russians are not like that at all: they just want to live in Russia without GloboWest — i.e. US & UK — constantly trying to needle them, constantly stick their nose in their internal affairs, foment trouble for Russia anywhere they can, try to loot their country, try to steal their country from under them……

    Russians even forgave (Nazi) Germans for much, much worse than US & UK have done.

    They and the Chinese want to be left alone.
    That’s all.
    US & UK and GloboWest will self-destruct without Russia getting involved.

    Here:
    Paul Craig Roberts explains why and how very well.
    https://www.unz.com/proberts/western-civilization-is-ceasing-to-exist/

  221. @Ultrafart the Brave

    I agree that the rulers and the ruled are morally disconnected. The sort of people who seek to rule countries are different from those who seek to be left alone and sit on their own porch and talk about baseball, their children, and motorcycles.

    There are, of course, worthless SOBs in every community, but politics seems to distill the true essence of scumhood.

    • Agree: Ultrafart the Brave
  222. @mulga mumblebrain

    When America was strong and healthy it was racist, patriarchal, and anti-homo.. When Britain was strong and healthy it was racist, patriarchal, and anti-homo. When Germany was strong and healthy, it was racist, patriarchal, and anti-homo. Without racists, America would have disappeared already. Moderate racism is a positive good, as is patriarchy and keeping homos in the closet.

    And if racists were purged, we’d have no Orientals, no Blacks, no Jews, and no Mexicans. A paradise for SJWs, they could posture all day and never have to confront racial reality.

    And if imbeciles were purged, you’d be gone.

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
    , @anon
  223. Jonas J. says:

    Absolutely wrong, it’s Putler’s war…he’s the only one being a relentless savage. In fact he’s an enemy of all people. He has to be stopped here and now be any means necessary.
    The third-class Nazimafia shithole country formerly known as RuSSia has to be defeated, demilitarized, denuclearized, deimperialized and denazified. Their pundits and collaborators like Trump, Bolsonaro, Orban, Vucic etc. need to be silenced and imprisoned. In essence, RuSSia has to go through something similar as Germany after WWII, that’s the only way to establish a more stable world order…

  224. @Ultrafart the Brave

    People are motivated by good intentions and empathy only when they feel comfortable. What is going to happen is two races will be struggling over the limited resources required to satisfy their wants (NOT needs). Then the natural tribal instinct kicks in. Kindness and understanding are for losers. Violence is gold. The one means to justify all ends. Look at the history of your race and tell me I am wrong.

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  225. @antibeast

    South Korea is powerless because it is under US military occupation while Taiwan is not powerless because it is legally part of China. All the Taiwanese need to do is to agree to unite with China. Once Taiwan is politically part of China, there is nothing the USA can do about it.

    If Taiwan were to be unified with China, TSMC would be destroyed. The US would make sure of it.

    • Replies: @antibeast
  226. @antibeast

    Mostly agreed but AMEC is indeed already being used by TSMC in their 5nm manufacturing.

    As to lithography – one can never tell. Life can be full of surprises. If we are all here in 5 years it will be interesting to see what happens. One thing we know is the industry will be very different.

    But yeah supply chains are important so that is a good strategy. BMW just announced another billion US dollar investment in batteries in China and announced they will be moving Mini EV production from Britain to China. They said China has the biggest market share and most complete supply chain – so it’s a simple business decision…. Except for the most bleeding edge – soon the same will be said of the semiconductor industry- regardless of what the US tries. When you look at space development- many posit that US pressure on China actually spurred China to be more self sufficient and now they are direct competitors to NASA.

    • Replies: @antibeast
  227. antibeast says:
    @Obsequious

    If Taiwan were to be unified with China, TSMC would be destroyed. The US would make sure of it.

    How do you suppose the USA can destroy a Taiwanese company in Chinese territory? Bomb TSMC?

  228. Joe Wong says:
    @A123

    Nowadays every product need 14nm+ chips even for baby toys. Some of them need a few and some of them need hundreds in each item. The world depends on Chinese products, if China is not self sufficient in chips, China can not produce enough produce enough to keep the world supply chain moving, and the world supply chain will collapse like avalanche which will make supply chain interruption by VOVID-19 pandemic like child play, and the Americans economy will fall over the cliff.

    The USA will become anarchy due to empty shelves in stores, which caused panic in the public and widespread plundering for daily necessities.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  229. @TXJoe

    It is apparent that Russia and China are too slow to act and too naive to think that the US will abide by international law!

    While the former may be true, the latter isn’t. They surely know that the US does not abide by international law, it’s so obvious to everybody.

    • Replies: @A123
  230. @The_Masterwang

    Then the natural tribal instinct kicks in…

    No it doesn’t.

    The tribal instinct kicks in when the ruling elite leverage that pathology to advance their own plans, irrespective of the interests of their people. Herman Goering stated this explicitly, and he should know.

    BTW, Russian President Putin has also stated essentially the same thing, characterising the cabal now ruling the West as “Satanic”. Open your eyes.

    Kindness and understanding are for losers. Violence is gold. The one means to justify all ends. Look at the history of your race and tell me I am wrong.

    You are wrong.

    Clearly you have a bug up your butt over historical offenses, but you have construed a literal battle between Good and Evil for control of the world to be a mere “clash of races”, namely your race versus some other race you have a permanent boner for – ergo, you are indeed the “deranged racist” of your prior comments, the “deranged racist” which you introduced to the narrative and characterised as a misunderstood visionary.

    So by all means, get prepared for your “clash of the races”, if that suits your fancy, because epic clashes are surely coming. However, if heading into what is shaping up one way or another to be an existential battle, it might be prudent to first understand who your real enemies are and who’s actually calling the shots. It would be a real tragedy to expend all your effort and resources eliminating your true enemy’s adversaries and intended targets, making it that much easier for him when he finally decides to get around to dealing with you.

    • Replies: @The_Masterwang
  231. It looks like USA will become to Germany what China used to be to USA. USA will be transferring German companies and brains to USA, and possibly other European ones, while offering cheaper fuel and access to raw materials. So US is hoping to industrialise and benefit from the coming de-industrialisation of Europe. Thus US hopes to overtake PR China in a few years time. We’ll see how this works out.

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
  232. @Graveldips

    And if imbeciles were purged, you’d be gone.

    Touche!

    We await Mulga’s fiery response with bated breath and clenched butt-cheeks.

    (Seriously, Mulga, we really do love you – the world would be a less interesting place without you).

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  233. antibeast says:
    @showmethereal

    Mostly agreed but AMEC is indeed already being used by TSMC in their 5nm manufacturing.

    You’re right. AMEC has indeed sold its plasma etching equipment to both SMIC and TSMC. But their biggest success to date has been in the MOCVD market where they account for 80% of China’s GaN/SiC semiconductor industry for producing LEDs, Power ICs and RFICs.

    But yeah supply chains are important so that is a good strategy.

    Having an end-to-end supply-chain is the only strategy that will work.

    That’s why China is targeting the entire end-to-end semiconductor industry supply-chain for the upstream, mid-stream and downstream sectors, from materials to CAD Tools/Silicon IP in the upstream sector, all the way to advanced chip packaging, assembly and testing in the downstream sector. The midstream sector is an old, mature industry, with lots of long established players. The reason why China backed SMIC, YMTC, Changxin, AMEC, SMEE, etc. is to build enough mid-stream players at home to serve domestic markets as insurance against potential supply-chain disruptions. No way can those Chinese companies compete against TSMC, Samsung, SK Hynix, Micron, WDC, KIOXIA, ASML, Applied Materials, Lam Research, Tokyo Electron, Nikon, etc. in the global semiconductor industry.

    China’s best bet is to focus on niche markets such as MOCVD which AMEC has done or target the upstream and downstream sectors where its huge semiconductor market size and vast electronics manufacturing industry ecosystem allows it to set the industry standards and own the intellectual property for all kinds of electronics products. China can then license those IP to domestic and foreign companies for their semiconductor chips to be used in their electronics products which will be sold worldwide.

  234. A123 says: • Website
    @Commentator Mike

    It is apparent that Russia and China are too slow to act and too naive to think that the US will abide by international law!

    While the former may be true, the latter isn’t. They surely know that the US does not abide by international law, it’s so obvious to everybody

    Russia, China, and India are also known for besmirching “international law”. Why is the phrase even used? Everybody realises that concept is a joke.

    There is NO SUCH THING as international law. Fuggedaboutit!

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  235. d dan says:
    @antibeast

    “How do you suppose the USA can destroy a Taiwanese company in Chinese territory?”

    Still under-estimating how low USA can go? There is no “lowest” in their vocab, there is only “lower”.

    Bombs could easily be planted by any American trained Taiwanese traitor, and WSJ’s headline would be “Poor quality Chinese missiles hit TSMC factory…” Just look at how Ukraine work.

    • Replies: @antibeast
  236. antibeast says:
    @d dan

    Still under-estimating how low USA can go? There is no “lowest” in their vocab, there is only “lower”.

    Not at all. But I doubt the USA could afford to ‘destroy’ the goose that lays the golden age.

    Bombs could easily be planted by any American trained Taiwanese traitor, and WSJ’s headline would be “Poor quality Chinese missiles hit TSMC factory…” Just look at how Ukraine work.

    That bomb comment was meant to be a sarcastic remark. Regardless, I don’t see how China would allow anything to happen to TSMC after Taiwan’s reunification with the mainland which will occur sometime before the end of this decade. Will Intel survive that long after the world finally dumps x86? Then what is the USA going to do after the decline of its own semiconductor industry? That must have been the reason why the USA is now in panic mode to try saving Intel.

  237. @Ultrafart the Brave

    This has little to do with the past but a lot to do with the here and now. And it isn’t a struggle between good and evil – there are no such things. It’s an existential conflict between tribes. Yours and mine. Over lebensraum and resources. Please don’t try to put the blame on your leaders. They rule with your collective, expressed consent in the democratic process.

    And in any case, your “satanic ruling class” cannot be dealt with unless you are dealt. When the stakes are total and wars will also be total. In a total war no one is innocent and all considerations are strictly tactical. For example, you don’t firebomb children’s hospitals because children drain the enemy’s resources. Not because setting children on fire is an abhorrent thing even to think of.

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  238. @Commentator Mike

    It will not be quite the shot in the arm Paperclip was …
    the Usual Suspects have lived on poached brain for too long while neglecting
    the progeny – the workforce is dumb as shit and entitled as hell, a bit like
    South Africa only more expensive; most of the fracking basins have already
    peaked; tax candy machloikes work for tiny shithole countries piggybacking
    on larger economies (read: Ireland at max) but not for serious ones.

    As soon as the ability to print $$$ with impunity is (inevitably) gone,
    the entire edifice will crumple like the House of USsher.

  239. @antibeast

    Why not? In any case they probably already have people there ready to destroy everything and grab all the engineers when the order is given.

    • Agree: nokangaroos
  240. @A123

    NO country on Earth, with the exception of the USA, spits, urinates and defaecates on International Law as does Israel. Thank-you for a monster class in arrogant chutzpah. Israel follows Talmudic ‘Law’ ie kill anyone who gets in your way, men, women and children, and to Hell with International Law, mere ‘Christian morality’.

  241. @Ultrafart the Brave

    Racists are the ULTIMATE Evil stupidity. There is one race, the human race, and it is living on borrowed time. We must hang together or….

  242. There is one race, the human race, and it is living on borrowed time. We must hang together or….

    Good comeback Mulga.

    Let’s see anyone dismiss that statement without looking like a malicious troll.

    Just BTW, I’d propose a calibration of the term “racist” – it seems to me that it’s perfectly understandable that a person of one particular ethnic origin might feel disoriented or outside their comfort zone or even feel threatened if placed into an unfamiliar situation with people of different appearance, language and cultural habits. Anyone in those circumstances might respond awkwardly or inappropriately, but that’s not “racist” – it just takes people time to become accustomed to a new situation and adapt.

    On the other hand, people who harbor antagonism against other people because they are different IMO are “racists” – the bad kind. Perhaps “bigot” would be a better more general term to capture all varieties of unjustifiable intolerance (because, after all, there are some patterns of behaviour that should not be tolerated).

  243. @The_Masterwang

    And it isn’t a struggle between good and evil – there are no such things.

    Clearly, there is little basis for reasoning with such as yourself when the fundamental premises underlying our material reality are apparently in dispute.

    Humans are a degenerate species existing in a thoroughly degenerate plane of existence – but there are others both far better and far worse. Had you the occasion to encounter a single one of these, I suspect your world view would be irretrievably transformed.

    It’s an existential conflict between tribes. Yours and mine.

    Keep believing that. By this stage of your life, I imagine it will be almost impossible for you to dig your way out of what appears to be pathologic bigotry.

    Please don’t try to put the blame on your leaders. They rule with your collective, expressed consent in the democratic process.

    Clearly you’ve been swallowing the Kool-Aid that’s been custom-designed for the Western masses.

    None of the current crop of Western governments has been “democratically” elected – they have been installed by the Globalist cabal. The West is ruled by a collection of totalitarian regimes controlled by a tiny group of psycopathic genocidal billionaire oligarchs.

    You voluntarily endorse the lie of Western “democracy” so emphatically – perhaps you should apply for a well-paid position in the planetary army of Globalist stooges.

    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/biden-is-not-president/

    You seem to me to be incapable of accomodating the unfolding reality, probably because you’ve invested so much of yourself in a simplistic and inherently racist “us vs them” world view.

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  244. anonymous[270] • Disclaimer says:
    @Joe Wong

    and the Americans economy will fall over the cliff.

    The USA will become anarchy due to empty shelves in stores, which caused panic in the public and widespread plundering for daily necessities.

    Maybe one of the greatest things that should happen now.

  245. @Ultrafart the Brave

    This is interesting, instead of hurling insults at the enemy with whom you are in conflict, you insult the enemy for being in conflict with you. A novel method of misdirection. Very creative.

    Since you are not rebelling against your ruling class you must consent to their rule. And by obeying those “satanic” elites you position yourselves as our foe. You can’t insult your way out of this simple fact.

  246. @antibeast

    TSMC would almost certainly be destroyed before China completed the take over of Taiwan. It’s not far-fetched at all. Prominent figures in the US have advocated such a scorched-earth policy — anything to prevent China from acquiring TSMC’s tech. Also, Morris Chang in an interview recently hinted at the destruction of TSMC as a warning against Chinese invasion.

    • Replies: @antibeast
  247. antibeast says:
    @Obsequious

    TSMC would almost certainly be destroyed before China completed the take over of Taiwan.

    Certainly? How certain are you of the ability of the USA (or the world for that matter) to replace TSMC?

    It’s not far-fetched at all. Prominent figures in the US have advocated such a scorched-earth policy — anything to prevent China from acquiring TSMC’s tech.

    I don’t think it’s that far-fetched at all for the USA to try to sabotage TSMC as it has done to Toshiba, Alstom, Huawei, etc. But I don’t see how the USA can afford to lose TSMC as it does not have anything equivalent anywhere in the world to replicate what TSMC has achieved to date which took decades to accomplish. The only thing the recently passed Biden’s CHIPS Act would accomplish is to award pork barrel projects to his cronies and kleptocrats.

    Also, Morris Chang in an interview recently hinted at the destruction of TSMC as a warning against Chinese invasion.

    Who says China is going to invade Taiwan? The last thing China wants to do is to kill the goose that lays the golden egg. The USA has its own goose (Intel) that lays the golden egg but that goose is dying of constipation.

  248. SOL says:

    Would like to see M. Hudson to summarize his predictions for the future of the Empire…

  249. Europa78 says: • Website

    Making semiconductors is not like making other products. The process is so technical and precise that it’s impossible to simply steal schematics and copy the process. So, China is at least 10 years behind the US and Taiwan… I wrote a long tweet thread explaining the real purpose behind Pelosi’s trip to Taiwan when it happened on my Twitter account. I would encourage you to read the thread and watch the videos linked in the thread, which explain the process of chip manufacturing and just how difficult it is.

    That said, wars are won with technology, so you are right, this is about US hegemony. I think you have it backwards though, this may hurt the US in short run, but it will hurt China more in the long run, in my opinion, which is a good thing. The solution to the US’s fucked up foreign policy initiatives since WWII isn’t to hand supremacy to the East. Instead, we need to maintain technological supremacy, while purging the parasites from our ZOG system. The US bullies because our ZOG overlords control our media & politicians, so if we can win back our government, the US will fall back into isolationism, which is our default position historically. That’s the best solution for the world in my opinion.

  250. This is interesting, instead of hurling insults at the enemy with whom you are in conflict, you insult the enemy for being in conflict with you.

    There is no “instead” here, Mr Masterwang, although believing so might bring you comfort. Neither is there any “enemy” fitting your description, apart from you yourself – a “tribe” of 1.

    And by obeying those “satanic” elites you position yourselves as our foe.

    Good comeback – a devilishly clever act of ducking, weaving and repositioning yourself to recover your footing! Trouble is, now you’ve maneuvred youself into the stance of acknowledging what you previously dismissed – that the Satanic Globalists are your enemy.

    BTW, you did it again – “our foe”. There is no “our”, it’s just you and your belligerent tribe of 1.

    [MORE]

    Look, it’s all been mildly interesting to engage on this forum with a character who self-identifies with his permanent giant boner (something of a marvel in itself, but I guess beating other people around the head with it helps).

    But let’s get real here, the narrative that you’ve been pushing doesn’t actually provide any clarity about the world around us – far from it. What it does reveal is a glimpse into the inner terrain, the “mind” as it were, of what increasingly appears to me to be a psychosis-bound “deranged racist” – and those are your words, not mine.

    Almost nothing in your discussion or argument, or whatever you might call it, has any tangible connection to the unfolding situation in the real world. Virtually everything that you’ve been spouting across these several posts has been projection – casting your own suppressed self-image upon the world at large, which I suppose must validate your internally entrenched agony at historical grievances (or some similar pathos). Or something like that – in any case, I’d suggest consulting with a competent psychiatrist (is there a traditional Chinese medical discipline analogous to psychiatry? Maybe go find one of them).

    FWIW, if you interpret a critical assessment as an “insult” then I would counsel you against indulging in any intercourse with opposing views – that trait is an overt symptom of a bona-fide homicidal axe-wielding maniac (apologies to The Young Ones). Maybe ISIS would be more your thing (they’re into projection too, albeit rather insistent about it) – but then you’ve got the “Yellow Tribe” issue to get past first. Is “Brown” a kind of “Yellow”?

    While we’re still full of enthusiasm (because seriously, this is all getting a little tedious) let’s recap some of our adventures from previous episodes (if for no other reason than to placate the nostalgic curiosity of our adoring fans)…

    Episode 1…

    Quoting you

    Those you call deranged racists are simply responsible people who are willing to look further ahead.

    Projection – “Those you call deranged racists…”

    First I’ve heard of it. Sounds like you just made that shit up – it came from somewhere out of your very own “deranged racist” mind (and let’s be clear here, they’re your words, not mine).

    So these fictional “deranged racists” which you accuse some imagined opposing “tribe” of accusing your own fictional “tribe” of being, are in the very next phrase portrayed by you as “responsible people who are willing to look further ahead” – selfless visionaries working for a better future or some similar fantasy.

    Dude, there’s no-one leveling allegations of “deranged racists” except you, only in reverse so as to frame your fictional “tribe” – which in reality is a peculiar “tribe” composed of a singularity, namely you and you alone – as an aggrieved party.

    This is all a fantasy – it’s all you. Projection, plain and simple.

    Episode 2…

    Here’s a quote from your own mouth…

    I believe the only difference between them is the power they hold. Pluck a random guy off the street and give him power. Present before him the full picture of the state of the world. What do you think will become of him?

    Yes, so you say, you believe. But it’s not some “random guy off the street”, is it – it’s you, projecting your own psychoses onto the world at large. A common phrase around the world is that “shit floats” – hence the ascension of the very worst that society has to offer to the highest echelons of influence and power. By any logical reckoning of those demographic processes, that would be a minority, but according to your calculus, all people are fundamentally shit and will turn into despots and tyrants if arbitrarily lobbed into a position of authority. That, of course and by necessity, includes yourself.

    By your own projection, look into a mirror, and what will be looking back at you is, to coin a phrase, a “piece of shit”. That’s not my argument, by the way – it’s yours (although since you are the one making that argument, I’m inclined to think that in your specific case it’s probably true).

    BTW, just as a side note (any decent entertainment series has at least one sub-plot in every episode)…

    In any case, evolution isn’t teleological. Anything subject to selection pressure inevitable evolve to suit the environment.

    Aside from the fundamentally unresolved issue of confirming that the theoretical process of evolution has actually contributed to the adaptive capacity of organic species (let alone being a major determinant of biospheric diversity), who said that if it is a valid process, that it’s not guided by a higher intelligence? Of course, your later disclosures point to your personal philosophical framework which categorically excludes such a possibility – but that’s beside the point at this particular juncture.

    The point is – given your claim that “Anything subject to selection pressure inevitable evolve to suit the environment…” – why then haven’t you evolved beyond your own inveterate bigotry? If evolution is a “thing” as you assert, then this implies your own inevitable extinction.

    Episode 3…

    People are motivated by good intentions and empathy only when they feel comfortable.

    This generalisation is emphatically and empirically false. However, since you have made this claim, it’s evident that you believe it and that you will behave accordingly. Once again (do we need to say it?) – projection.

    And BTW, you removed any shred of doubt about that…

    Kindness and understanding are for losers.

    Episode 4…

    And it isn’t a struggle between good and evil – there are no such things.

    For an outsider peering into the depths of an irretrievably bigoted and psychosis-riddled mind, that statement might best be framed as “wishful thinking”. However, just to be fair, if Godzilla really existed (is that a “Yellow Tribe” thing?), most people probably would need to see it to believe it.

    A paradigm is a hard thing to shake – so hard, in fact, that people will physically see or not see whatever is required to sustain a deeply held view. Many experiments have been done which confirm this.

    Nonetheless, with something so profound and fundamental as the concept of good and evil, denial or dismissal must be extremely rare. One might introduce the principle that it is logically impossible to “prove” that something doesn’t exist (“you can’t prove a negative” etc etc). Acceptance of that thesis would at least oblige an open mind on the subject.

    Does denial of the existence of good and evil exclude the existence of Angels and Demons (and a whole menagerie of assorted creatures not bound to our material substrate)? I would venture that encountering any of these just once might prompt a serious revision of one’s world views.

    In any case, as far as our current tribulations are concerned, the reality of good and evil one way or another doesn’t really matter, because the agencies planning extermination of 90% of humanity (and that includes Mr. Masterwang’s fictional “tribe”, BTW) do believe, and they are motivated by Luciferian imperatives.

    Here in Australia, the Satanic “tribe” (how does Mr. Masterwang’s fictional “tribe” feel about them? Hypothetically speaking, of course) burns newborn babies alive and then eats them. Every state in Australia has legalised “full-term abortions” in which the child has its brains sucked out of its skull during birth – this is now a thriving multi-billion industry across Australia, and moves are now being made to legalise “post-birth abortions” up to two years of age, something of a bonanza for the Satanic cannibals who over decades have progressively hijacked control of the country.

    Similar things are happening across the Western world – thoroughly evil things promoted by the Satanic Globalists which contradict the will of Western peoples.

    Those are effectively just sideshows compared to the Globalists’ planned Great Reset and New World Order in which 90% of humanity will be exterminated and the remainder will be enslaved, fed on crickets and maggots and will all “own nothing and be happy”.

    Currently and thankfully, both China and Russia and a growing cohort of the “Global South” stand in the way of these Satanic plans. Russia’s President Putin has explicitly recognised the Satanic motivations of the Globalist psychopaths.

    Meanwhile, Mr. Masterwang disavows the concepts of good and evil.

    Doesn’t matter – the people coming to kill Mr. Masterwang along with 90% of the human race do believe in the battle between good and evil, and that’s what is driving them, notwithstanding Mr. Masterwang’s one-man obsession with fighting the “White Race” in a fantastic projected world where good and evil don’t exist (and BTW, does Russia count as part of the “White Race”? What about Japan? Vietnam? India? So many contradictions and logical inconsistencies).

    It’s an existential conflict between tribes. Yours and mine.

    Looks like we gonna have ouselves a hoedown.

    You’ve got a “tribe” of 1.

    How many can I have on my team?

    Maybe I should just let the Globalists deal with you – then the rest of the world can attend to more pressing matters.

    Please don’t try to put the blame on your leaders. They rule with your collective, expressed consent in the democratic process.

    This nonsense has already been debunked. No doubt Mr. Masterwang, besotted as he is with the Western mainstream news propaganda, would enlist the aid of “Fact Checkers” to reinforce his claims, but I’d rather defer to the judgement of someone like Mr. Godfree Roberts or Mr. Larry Romanoff on the subject of Western “democracy”.

    Suffice to say that Mr. Masterwang’s entire projection of his personal binary “Yellow Race vs White Race” dichotomy for the world collapses when the lie of Western “democracy” is exposed as a diabolical global power-grab by a tiny cabal of Satanic billionaire psycopaths who incidentally are coming to kill Mr. Masterwang along with the rest of humanity.

    So Mr. Masterwang categorically cannot concede – remember the paradigm? As Darth Vader might paraphrase – “Your powers of projection are complete“.

    • Replies: @The_Masterwang
  251. LJ says:
    @A123

    It’ll be generations before that happens. The demoralization damage is all but complete.

    The state of technology and its capability for controlling humankind is far too advanced for it to happen as well.

    Unfortunately.

  252. LJ says:
    @Graveldips

    Tough for the cubical rats, but they didn’t care when machinists were thrown out of work for the benefit of the stock market.

    This says so much, I could write pages, a book on this general concept.

    It is at the core of our general demise as a society. Tied directly to it, it’s how the central banking system and control of a nation via it, leads to it.

  253. GoySoy says:

    I am still amazed that people here still cant read the script. The jews totally control the West, and to control China, they need leverage. Since the Chinese still control their own money supply, the jews will leverage through technology. All this anti Chinese rhetoric and policies are implemented for mainly 2 reasons; Bring Chinese back from Western world, and israel will control the export of the technologies that the Chinese need. The moving of HQs and R&Ds of major Western technology companies to israel, is part of this plan. For the last 50 years, the Chinese have followed a very well executed jewish plan to become the next “Superhost”.

  254. Vonu says:

    I don’t remember the president having the authority to revoke citizenship.
    If Biden takes away Americans’ citizenships while they are out of country, do they not automatically become refugess by default?

  255. @Ultrafart the Brave

    A brute force approach. That takes a lot of effort.

    Believe me or not, but I am not a tribe of one. I am simply the only one that bothers to tell you. The reality of race inevitably becomes obvious when different races interact. Most of us don’t interact with your ruling class. We interact with your masses. We get to observe their behaviors and beliefs up close. Then we conclude that we are dealing with wolves.

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  256. @Graveldips

    Read the article.

    Losing the Chinese market = that many job loses. Why would you have workers sitting around not doing anything without demand?

  257. @The_Masterwang

    A brute force approach. That takes a lot of effort.

    What? You still here?

    Hey, we do what we can to keep the world safe.

    Meanwhile, your previous portrayal of yourself as a misunderstood visionary slandered as a “deranged racist” got me to thinking.

    Turns out Mike Adams had a lot to say about someone like you quite a few years ago – maybe while you were still in nappies (do they use them in your part of China? Just saying – it might be a “tribal” thing) or not even born yet…

    https://www.naturalnews.com/036112_sociopaths_cults_influence.html

    Klaus Schwab could always use someone like you on his team (even if you don’t know it) – until your usefulness runs out, that is.

    • Replies: @The_Masterwang
  258. @Ultrafart the Brave

    I must admit your kind is very creative when it comes to tactics. It never occurred to me you can condemn the enemy for responding to your aggression. A very novel way to take the moral high ground. However I am not so easily confounded. I hope there will be more honest violence in the future instead of whatever you call this. But I understand your nature and what your genes compel you to do.

    The bottom line is this: coexistence is impossible, eventually one must cease to exist to secure the existence of the other. We have at most two generations before that happens. Competition becomes conflict becomes skirmishes become total war. The effort put into the weapons of mass destruction will not be wasted. The survivors will emerge from the ashes and continue the struggle with nihilistic cruelty until extermination is achieved. No one is at fault here. It is just nature taking its course. And if you really believe the things you said, well, then you are in the minority, powerless to stop the wheel of history in any case.

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  259. @The_Masterwang

    Dude, now you’re just descending into fits of hyperbole and fantasy.

    FWIW, here’s your doppleganger…

    … you’re the little one, BTW. The big one is Klaus Schwab.

    We’re waiting with bated breath for your attack using sharks with lasers.

    • Replies: @The_Masterwang
  260. @Ultrafart the Brave

    You can’t mock us into submission. That’s pathetic for you to even think it worth trying.

  261. You can’t mock us into submission.

    Dude, seriously, we don’t go to the circus to make the clowns submit to us. Why would we want to interrupt their antics?

    They entertain us! (… and since a few posts back, you’ve become the gift that just keeps on giving).

    The Young Ones were impervious to logic or reasoning, and so are you.

    Yet strangely, you’re not amused (how very regal).

    How about a change of pace? Here’s your new doppleganger…

  262. anon[216] • Disclaimer says:
    @Graveldips

    Time to deport you to Poland or Hungary . One of the 2 will take you and the circles you hang around with.

    • Replies: @Smith
  263. Smith says:
    @anon

    Is deportation to Poland or Hungary supposed to be bad now, or?

  264. @antibeast

    Extremely informative — thanks.

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