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Our overlords in the Beltway Swamp depend on you not paying attention. COVID-19 was a weapon of mass distraction for the past two years. Ukraine is the new shiny toy.

Put down their bread. Take your eyes off their circuses. Pay attention.

In the bought-off halls of Congress right now, Senate and House collaborators are preparing to send legislation to President Joe Biden that will open the floodgates to more foreign tech workers, wealthy foreign investors and foreign students — while our own homegrown American tech workforce, American business owners and American STEM graduates are still reeling from pandemic disruptions and displacements. The Senate passed the \$250 billion U.S. Innovation and Competition Act last June. The House passed a similar measure, the \$350 billion America Competes Act, last month. Biden wielded his State of the Union address to push for reconciliation of the two bills so he can commence another massive giveaway to foreign and domestic special interests.

The just-approved House bill would create a new visa category on top of the dozens of alphabet-soup visas already in existence. According to the open-borders, big business-backed American Action Forum, the “W” visa program will benefit three groups of foreign nationals: “W-1, entrepreneurs with ownership interest in a start-up; W-2, essential employees of a start-up; and W-3, W-1 and W-2 holders’ spouses and children.” Based on dubious “job creation” criteria similar to the fraud-riddled EB-5 investor visa program, if the foreigners’ startups are “successful,” the W visa holders could soon join the already overwhelming annual tide of 1 million green card winners who take up jobs in the U.S. and are then eligible for citizenship.

Only in the Swamp can a bill handing out citizenship for sale to the highest bidders be marketed as a way to help America “compete.”

Then there’s the poison pill for Americans studying in science, technology, engineering or mathematics (STEM). The House bill would lift the cap on immigrant visas for foreign nationals and their entire immediate families if they have doctoral degrees in STEM fields. Silicon Valley lobbyists will claim (as they have disingenuously argued for the past three decades) that there is a catastrophic shortage of high-skilled, high-tech labor.

Here are the facts, straight from the U.S. government: “Among the 50 million employed college graduates ages 25 to 64 in 2019, 37% reported a bachelor’s degree in science or engineering but only 14% worked in a STEM occupation,” according to the U.S. Census Bureau’s 2019 American Community Survey one-year estimates. “This translates into less than a third (28%) of STEM-educated workers actually working in a STEM job.”

I repeat again and again and again in the face of the America Last lies: There is no American tech worker shortage.

Other provisions of the House bill would grant amnesty and work permits to illegal aliens and refugees from Hong Kong, and “special immigrant visas” to 5,000 “high-skilled” Hong Kong residents for up to five fiscal years for a total of 25,000 new green card holders flooding the American tech workforce.

Only in the Swamp can legislation that busts open the cheap foreign labor pipeline and undermines native American STEM graduates be sold as a vehicle for increasing American competitiveness.

ORDER IT NOW

And that’s just the tip of the iceberg. Buried in the America Competes Act is a side bill snuck in as a last-minute amendment called the College Transparency Act, which will radically expand the federal government’s ability to conduct surveillance, tracking and profiling, of every college student in this country. According to The Federalist, the bill opens the door to collection of “student-related surveys, race or ethnicity, age, sex, attendance, program of study, military or veteran benefit status, enrollment and credential status, distance education enrollment status, and federal Pell Grant status.” In addition, “economic status, participation in remedial coursework, status as a parent of dependent children, incarceration or confinement status, disability status, and ‘other’ undefined data” will be collected “as the government later deems necessary.”

There would be no means to opt out of this national student database, and the bill “specifically allows third parties to sell student data.” The potential for abuse and exploitation of highly personal student data that could be used for racial, psychological and ideological profiling is terrifying.

Put on your shocked faces: Bill Gates and the Gates Foundation enthusiastically champion this American social credit system penetration into college student data — just as they have lobbied for years for the other America Competes Act provisions sabotaging American workers through relentless mass migration.

Any American politician who calls himself “America First” and shills for this traitorous monstrosity should be kicked out of office. Pay attention. Raise hell. Do something.

Michelle Malkin’s email address is [email protected]

 
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  1. Thank you for spreading the word on this treacherous bill with the lie of a title, Mrs. Malkin. I read VDare religiously, so I expect this sort of thing, but I don’t normally keep up with the wonky stuff. I do understand that our Feral Government makes efforts to screw the American people every day, but it’s so depressing to keep up with all the details.

    Now, I used the term “wonky”, but that doesn’t mean this is silly government stuff amounting to peanuts. Besides the loss of jobs and the Orwellian surveillance , just look at those monetary figures, readers. Were this 40 years ago, figures for random, screw-Americans spending bills would regularly be in the hundreds of millions, not hundreds of billions! Oh, just inflation? At 100,000%?! These people are way out of control.

    I like the House number just because it makes my math easy. \$1,000 per American* to screw over their and their children’s prospects in life even further. Who will get that money? It’s just more theft of the value of your labor, given to those who hate you. Looked a different way, it’s another big step to get us shortly past \$30,000,000,000,000 in national debt.

    It’s not gonna be fun, as we can already see at the gas pump, but I gotta say that the US dollar deserves to die. That’s the only thing that will stop these people.

    Peak Stupidity is nigh.

    .

    * Which is really about 3 thousand per actual-taxpaying family.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Lyin' Biden may be stupid and clueless of what is going on behind him. But I submit that the globalists dominating his illegitimate regime aren't stupid. They know what they're doing and have been chomping at the bit since the end of Obama's terms. Deliberately bring down the US behemoth at the behest of the Globalists, whose plan is to kill millions of people, especially slovenly Americans.

    Mayor Pete, Granholm, etc, hate the internal combustion engine and America's dependence on autos. And they're winning at the expense of Heritage America. JH Kunstler has been warning about this for years ever since the victory of suburbia at the expense of the cities. Happy Motoring to Walmart is coming to an end, as is ordering junk from Amazon with its promise of two-day delivery to your front porch.

    Americans learned nothing from wasting two years of their lives falling for Fauci's spiel. Now they're paying the price, as Covid-scam morphs into Ukraine-scam. Qualified American workers losing tech jobs to foreigners is part of it. Fast dwindling Heritage Americans cannot win at the ballot box, and no sense wasting your time writing to your bought-and-paid-for Congressperson. We can't take over Washington with both parties against us, controlled by a power whose name must not be mentioned. Separation is our only option.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  2. To be honest american wages are too high. But that will soon end. Not because of immigration but due to the end of dollar hegemony and the asset prices related to it. Real estate, stocks, military weapons.

    A lot of Americans incomes derives from non productive sectors: Military “service,” weapons manufacturing, non workers living on government benefits, financial services, various useless government offices– and derivatives thereof such a healthcare and education funded by benefits from the wage earners of useless sectors.

    There will be a shift to a more Canadian/Latin American type of economy where agriculture and resource extraction will make up the majority of GDP.

    America’s premier high tech manufacturers make overpriced defective products, e.g Boeing.

    The U.S can import all the STEM graduates in the world but it would yield no results if the culture remains greed oriented and elite dominated and exploitative.

    • Agree: follyofwar
    • Replies: @animalogic
    @anyone with a brain

    "it would yield no results if the culture remains greed oriented and elite dominated and exploitative."
    Agree absolutely.
    Thus, I believe you meant "american profits are too high."
    Some Americans are paid too much -- most are not even paid a living wage.

    , @Brad Anbro
    @anyone with a brain

    I vehemently disagree with your generalized statement that "American wages are too high." I would agree that "some" American wages are too high, but the majority of Americans' wages have less purchasing power than I did in 1969, the year I graduated from high school and got my first factory job, where I earned $2.24 per hour and could buy MORE with that $2.24 than I could with the $25+ wage that I retired with.

    I believe that a better general statement would be "American SALARIES are too high" - especially the salaries being paid to useless "leaders" of corporations that push papers around and try to figure out how to get more for themselves and the (rich) stockholders (and less for their employees). Add to that the salaries of the entire banking & "financial" "industries."

    Also, the individuals in the entertainment industry. And last, but not least, the grossly overpaid persons in professional sports. But you really can't blame the sports people - they're just trying to get what the other over-compensated individuals receive.

    Now for the most grossly UNDERPAID individuals in our country - the commercial airline pilots and the "semi" tractor/trailer drivers. When was the last time that YOU had the personal responsibility of a gasoline tanker truck driver? Or a commercial pilot? Probably never.

    The country needs to get back to where it was just after World War II - when unions were strong and the United States manufactured everything that it needed and paid a good wage. There is absolutely NO shortage of money in this country with which to pay individuals decent wages. The only "shortage" in our country is the greed of (some) Americans and their complete lack of compassion for their fellow citizens!

    Replies: @anyone with a brain

  3. I’m neutral-to-positive on [il/legal] immigration. Abolish the welfare state and tax leeches will stop coming here. Native-born leeches will self-deport .. back to whatever s*hole, European countries their *-grandparents fled from.

    Regarding the article:

    Great news for immigration lawyers (scumbag DEMs).
    Great news for full-tuition seeking, State U’s (DEM elites).
    Great news for tech billionaires (communist-DEMs).

    Ask yourselves why there’s no shortage of NBA players, X Studies profsters, congressional candidates, etc.

    If the guy who owns the Clippers would pay his programmers \$25M per year, then even LaBron would learn to code (and consider spending four years of Saturday nights in the college computer lab, along the way).

    If close relatives of high level, USG officials couldn’t receive \$100K per month, no-bid contracts from Ukrainian utility companies, maybe one of them would study differential equations (but probably not).

    If public universities concerned themselves with their original mission, i.e. training the next generation of applied scientists at zero tuition, instead of the bureaucratic imperative of securing higher funding for themselves, then they wouldn’t have to venture offshore to generate the high volumes necesary to fill up their cavernous lecture halls and high-rise dorms. (Those quack-PhDs, lacking the logical thinking skills necessary for programming, would self-deport).

  4. Anonymous[124] • Disclaimer says:

    I fear the West is lost. Six decades of feminism has killed masculinity.

    There is no one left to fight for the USA.

    Worse, it’s now mandatory to hate the nation and its white inhabitants.

    Canuck truckers were mostly white and all polite, clean, honest, responsible, peaceful, kid-friendly, etc. That is, “good guys.” Yet they STILL got their arses kicked by Jussie Turdeau and flown-in UN thugs. After some participants had their banks blocked and trucks impounded, still others trampled and jail, ALL truckers should have called in sick for a week…or until Jussie resigned.

    Instead, they wimped out.

    Pussies!

    Same for the recent US convoy to DC: a spectacle full of sounding horns and curious videography, but essentially signifying nothing.

    Now comes(!) the Oscar-nominated THE POWER OF THE DOG, yet another filmic turd dropped in the punchbowl of manhood. It epitomizes the arrival of filmic Wokemen. Another BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN clone, filled with gayness, sadism, and other PC crapola kink.

    Apparently, it’s now verboten to make movies where guys support each other, become emotionally-close friends, stay strong, and do NOT publicly masturbate, get buggered, and/or do other pervoshite.

  5. Put America and its legal citizens first!

    We owe nothing to the Non-Citizen!

    Another compelling example of why we need to remove the Democrat Party majority in the House and Senate in the upcoming election cycle this November, 2022!

    A new Conservative Republican Majority must repeal this horrible “America Last” legislation!

    Hold the new Conservative Republican Majority accountable for their votes and actions!

    Personal freedom and choice are on the line here!

    Vote and get out the legal vote!

    Fight for freedom and stop the spread of Marxism in our Constitutionally protected and guided Democratic Republic

    Get educated about this and other freedom killing legislation, so you can vote smart and protect the rights and sovereignty of all Americans!

    Stop Talking and Take Action!

    God Bless America!!!

    • Disagree: Abolish_public_education
  6. There hasn’t been any American tech workers shortage for almost two decades now – when the H-1B visa program to import foreign workers into the USA began to ramp up in earnest. These workers displaced Americans because they were cheaper and easily manipulated – they cost only 1/2 to 1/3 of their American counterparts, would relocate to work on projects in any city living a half-dozen or more to an apartment for the duration, and could not complain because if they did they’d get shipped back immediately to their home country by the sponsoring company and replaced by others who were willing to do anything to make 5 or 10 times as much as they could at home, if they could even find a job. As a bonus they often did substandard work because they did not understand what they were doing, and often did not have even minimal ethics about lying, cheating and stealing.

    Republicans as well as Democrats supported and increased the H-1B program. So many of our politicians could not care less about the American high-tech worker but instead are beholden to large corporations. Follow the money.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  7. @Achmed E. Newman
    Thank you for spreading the word on this treacherous bill with the lie of a title, Mrs. Malkin. I read VDare religiously, so I expect this sort of thing, but I don't normally keep up with the wonky stuff. I do understand that our Feral Government makes efforts to screw the American people every day, but it's so depressing to keep up with all the details.

    Now, I used the term "wonky", but that doesn't mean this is silly government stuff amounting to peanuts. Besides the loss of jobs and the Orwellian surveillance , just look at those monetary figures, readers. Were this 40 years ago, figures for random, screw-Americans spending bills would regularly be in the hundreds of millions, not hundreds of billions! Oh, just inflation? At 100,000%?! These people are way out of control.

    I like the House number just because it makes my math easy. $1,000 per American* to screw over their and their children's prospects in life even further. Who will get that money? It's just more theft of the value of your labor, given to those who hate you. Looked a different way, it's another big step to get us shortly past $30,000,000,000,000 in national debt.

    It's not gonna be fun, as we can already see at the gas pump, but I gotta say that the US dollar deserves to die. That's the only thing that will stop these people.

    Peak Stupidity is nigh.

    .

    * Which is really about 3 thousand per actual-taxpaying family.

    Replies: @follyofwar

    Lyin’ Biden may be stupid and clueless of what is going on behind him. But I submit that the globalists dominating his illegitimate regime aren’t stupid. They know what they’re doing and have been chomping at the bit since the end of Obama’s terms. Deliberately bring down the US behemoth at the behest of the Globalists, whose plan is to kill millions of people, especially slovenly Americans.

    Mayor Pete, Granholm, etc, hate the internal combustion engine and America’s dependence on autos. And they’re winning at the expense of Heritage America. JH Kunstler has been warning about this for years ever since the victory of suburbia at the expense of the cities. Happy Motoring to Walmart is coming to an end, as is ordering junk from Amazon with its promise of two-day delivery to your front porch.

    Americans learned nothing from wasting two years of their lives falling for Fauci’s spiel. Now they’re paying the price, as Covid-scam morphs into Ukraine-scam. Qualified American workers losing tech jobs to foreigners is part of it. Fast dwindling Heritage Americans cannot win at the ballot box, and no sense wasting your time writing to your bought-and-paid-for Congressperson. We can’t take over Washington with both parties against us, controlled by a power whose name must not be mentioned. Separation is our only option.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @follyofwar

    You'll get no argument from me on any of your good comment, FoW. I'll add this to the point of your 1st paragraph: The Globalist elites HATE HATE HATE [/Whisky] the White middle class! The white middle class, what's left of it anyway, has disposable income and time. They form political associations that bother the Globalist elites, they form competing businesses to Big Biz, and they are not complaint peons with their hands out begging for scraps.

    I'm not even saying it's some big plan of these people to squash the White middle class, but doing it sure makes them feel better. They envy the Conquistador-Americans who run Latin America, for example.

    That's what we are dealing with. They have been pretty damn successful so far, I gotta admit.

  8. Recently, it took 10 days for my sick dog’s veterinary appointment date to come up. Southern California. Stories like this abound. Newspapers cover these stories up, for the obvious reasons. This is a tech-worker shortage. I am not interested in fixing the shortage with native-U.S. workers years from now. Fix it right now. A recent study of skill and competence of medical workers ranked the US. 28th. (Japan was number one.) A 2016 Hopkins study found that 250,000 die annually from medical negligence. Ask the American people if they want, right now, more proficient, patient, conscientious, fastidious Chinese docs, or, more leafblowers.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @SafeNow

    The fix is easy: Big Biz could just offer decent pay - something that could help one lead a middle class life.

    Along with that, the handouts from Uncle Sugar would have to be curtailed to make it worth if for some Americans to get off the couch.

    See my previous comment for the reason they don't want to do this.

    , @anyone with a brain
    @SafeNow

    The problem is the American Medical Association has created an artificial scarcity by limiting the number of med students https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/4561/does-the-ama-limit-the-number-of-doctors-to-increase-current-doctors-salaries

    But one rarely mentioned cause for lack of cheap healthcare in the U.S is that the U.S population is much more unhealthy(obese and related diseases) than the European population while having more access. Of course that is in addition to other factors such as greed of various interest groups.

    Now that I think of it there will always be a tech worker "shortage" just like there will always be a gold "shortage" as long as you classify gold being more expensive than copper there will always be a shortage.

    Only a small percentage of the population can learn to code and less can learn to code and like it.

    The other issue is the tech monopoly, how is a small tech company supposed to keep up with Google, apple, Microsoft, amazon, Facebook and the sort vacuuming up all the talent at extremely high wages. There is a concentration of power and money that has destroyed a more competitive market.

    , @Biff K
    @SafeNow

    Nobody goes to medical school anymore. It's VET school. That's where the megabucks are. All these nulliparous white women get a dog or 2 at about age 40. I think the term is "fur babies." Veterinarians' rates are not regulated like your doctor's are. So, they charge whatever they can get away with. Even more so than dentists. The horrible inept breeding of dogs over the past 20 years has produced a huge patient load for that money grubbing vet. He's lovin' it!

    I can remember when vet school was remotely a 3rd level alternative for the poor sucker (5 out of 6 in the mid 70's) who couldn't get into med school no matter how hard they tried. Podiatry and chiropractor schools were considered semi-acceptable alternatives. Not any more! It's vet school. Oh...and, most med school grads today, say "screw this!" and go off and get an MBA after med school. Way more money and you never have to look at, let alone stick your finger in, some fat person's asshole.

  9. @follyofwar
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Lyin' Biden may be stupid and clueless of what is going on behind him. But I submit that the globalists dominating his illegitimate regime aren't stupid. They know what they're doing and have been chomping at the bit since the end of Obama's terms. Deliberately bring down the US behemoth at the behest of the Globalists, whose plan is to kill millions of people, especially slovenly Americans.

    Mayor Pete, Granholm, etc, hate the internal combustion engine and America's dependence on autos. And they're winning at the expense of Heritage America. JH Kunstler has been warning about this for years ever since the victory of suburbia at the expense of the cities. Happy Motoring to Walmart is coming to an end, as is ordering junk from Amazon with its promise of two-day delivery to your front porch.

    Americans learned nothing from wasting two years of their lives falling for Fauci's spiel. Now they're paying the price, as Covid-scam morphs into Ukraine-scam. Qualified American workers losing tech jobs to foreigners is part of it. Fast dwindling Heritage Americans cannot win at the ballot box, and no sense wasting your time writing to your bought-and-paid-for Congressperson. We can't take over Washington with both parties against us, controlled by a power whose name must not be mentioned. Separation is our only option.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    You’ll get no argument from me on any of your good comment, FoW. I’ll add this to the point of your 1st paragraph: The Globalist elites HATE HATE HATE [/Whisky] the White middle class! The white middle class, what’s left of it anyway, has disposable income and time. They form political associations that bother the Globalist elites, they form competing businesses to Big Biz, and they are not complaint peons with their hands out begging for scraps.

    I’m not even saying it’s some big plan of these people to squash the White middle class, but doing it sure makes them feel better. They envy the Conquistador-Americans who run Latin America, for example.

    That’s what we are dealing with. They have been pretty damn successful so far, I gotta admit.

    • Thanks: follyofwar
  10. @SafeNow
    Recently, it took 10 days for my sick dog’s veterinary appointment date to come up. Southern California. Stories like this abound. Newspapers cover these stories up, for the obvious reasons. This is a tech-worker shortage. I am not interested in fixing the shortage with native-U.S. workers years from now. Fix it right now. A recent study of skill and competence of medical workers ranked the US. 28th. (Japan was number one.) A 2016 Hopkins study found that 250,000 die annually from medical negligence. Ask the American people if they want, right now, more proficient, patient, conscientious, fastidious Chinese docs, or, more leafblowers.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @anyone with a brain, @Biff K

    The fix is easy: Big Biz could just offer decent pay – something that could help one lead a middle class life.

    Along with that, the handouts from Uncle Sugar would have to be curtailed to make it worth if for some Americans to get off the couch.

    See my previous comment for the reason they don’t want to do this.

  11. TG says:

    Kudos for this article.

    Suggestion: call your representative and senators NOW and leave a message!

    Granted, our elected representatives are mostly bought-and-paid for whores who don’t care about us but only serving their wealthy patrons and getting cushy consulting jobs etc. when they retire. Still, they can sometimes be influenced by public pressure. Remember how public outrage killed the “gang of eight” illegal immigrant amnesty plan? The memory of that defeat still influences republicans, most of whom would normally be all too happy to sell out the American public.

    Be polite, be calm, say something positive that you appreciate about your representative (if you can), but state in no uncertain terms that you think that replacing American workers with foreign nationals so wages and living standards for workers can be hammered down, and rents and profits boosted for the elite, is a primary concern and that you will be following their vote and you will remember. Really, what’s more important to you: Ukraine’s border, or our own?

    For other information on this topic I would recommend “NumbersUSA”, but that’s just my opinion. No I didn’t get paid to say this.

    Probably we are doomed. But we can at least try.

    • Replies: @Abolish_public_education
    @TG

    call your representative and senators NOW and leave a message!

    I've never worked in a politician's office, so I don't know what happens to such messages. I've left several "vote this way" sorts of comments over the years. The staffer politely acknowledged my interest. I assume she simply kept score, and at 5:00 relayed the day's final tally to her boss.

    The few times when I've called to argue against a policy position that the official had publicly taken, the flunky denied my request to speak to the officeholder. The flunky was also pessimistic about my chances of ever getting a direct word with the guy. However, flunky did insist that I express my concerns to it. After I ranted for a minute, flunky proceeded to spit back her boss' position on the matter, basically taken word for word from his press release.

    It was like talking to a wall.

  12. @SafeNow
    Recently, it took 10 days for my sick dog’s veterinary appointment date to come up. Southern California. Stories like this abound. Newspapers cover these stories up, for the obvious reasons. This is a tech-worker shortage. I am not interested in fixing the shortage with native-U.S. workers years from now. Fix it right now. A recent study of skill and competence of medical workers ranked the US. 28th. (Japan was number one.) A 2016 Hopkins study found that 250,000 die annually from medical negligence. Ask the American people if they want, right now, more proficient, patient, conscientious, fastidious Chinese docs, or, more leafblowers.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @anyone with a brain, @Biff K

    The problem is the American Medical Association has created an artificial scarcity by limiting the number of med students https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/4561/does-the-ama-limit-the-number-of-doctors-to-increase-current-doctors-salaries

    But one rarely mentioned cause for lack of cheap healthcare in the U.S is that the U.S population is much more unhealthy(obese and related diseases) than the European population while having more access. Of course that is in addition to other factors such as greed of various interest groups.

    Now that I think of it there will always be a tech worker “shortage” just like there will always be a gold “shortage” as long as you classify gold being more expensive than copper there will always be a shortage.

    Only a small percentage of the population can learn to code and less can learn to code and like it.

    The other issue is the tech monopoly, how is a small tech company supposed to keep up with Google, apple, Microsoft, amazon, Facebook and the sort vacuuming up all the talent at extremely high wages. There is a concentration of power and money that has destroyed a more competitive market.

  13. @TG
    Kudos for this article.

    Suggestion: call your representative and senators NOW and leave a message!

    Granted, our elected representatives are mostly bought-and-paid for whores who don't care about us but only serving their wealthy patrons and getting cushy consulting jobs etc. when they retire. Still, they can sometimes be influenced by public pressure. Remember how public outrage killed the "gang of eight" illegal immigrant amnesty plan? The memory of that defeat still influences republicans, most of whom would normally be all too happy to sell out the American public.

    Be polite, be calm, say something positive that you appreciate about your representative (if you can), but state in no uncertain terms that you think that replacing American workers with foreign nationals so wages and living standards for workers can be hammered down, and rents and profits boosted for the elite, is a primary concern and that you will be following their vote and you will remember. Really, what's more important to you: Ukraine's border, or our own?

    For other information on this topic I would recommend "NumbersUSA", but that's just my opinion. No I didn't get paid to say this.

    Probably we are doomed. But we can at least try.

    Replies: @Abolish_public_education

    call your representative and senators NOW and leave a message!

    I’ve never worked in a politician’s office, so I don’t know what happens to such messages. I’ve left several “vote this way” sorts of comments over the years. The staffer politely acknowledged my interest. I assume she simply kept score, and at 5:00 relayed the day’s final tally to her boss.

    The few times when I’ve called to argue against a policy position that the official had publicly taken, the flunky denied my request to speak to the officeholder. The flunky was also pessimistic about my chances of ever getting a direct word with the guy. However, flunky did insist that I express my concerns to it. After I ranted for a minute, flunky proceeded to spit back her boss’ position on the matter, basically taken word for word from his press release.

    It was like talking to a wall.

  14. @anyone with a brain
    To be honest american wages are too high. But that will soon end. Not because of immigration but due to the end of dollar hegemony and the asset prices related to it. Real estate, stocks, military weapons.

    A lot of Americans incomes derives from non productive sectors: Military "service," weapons manufacturing, non workers living on government benefits, financial services, various useless government offices-- and derivatives thereof such a healthcare and education funded by benefits from the wage earners of useless sectors.

    There will be a shift to a more Canadian/Latin American type of economy where agriculture and resource extraction will make up the majority of GDP.

    America's premier high tech manufacturers make overpriced defective products, e.g Boeing.

    The U.S can import all the STEM graduates in the world but it would yield no results if the culture remains greed oriented and elite dominated and exploitative.

    Replies: @animalogic, @Brad Anbro

    “it would yield no results if the culture remains greed oriented and elite dominated and exploitative.”
    Agree absolutely.
    Thus, I believe you meant “american profits are too high.”
    Some Americans are paid too much — most are not even paid a living wage.

    • Thanks: anyone with a brain
  15. Just do not vote, REVOLT!

  16. @anyone with a brain
    To be honest american wages are too high. But that will soon end. Not because of immigration but due to the end of dollar hegemony and the asset prices related to it. Real estate, stocks, military weapons.

    A lot of Americans incomes derives from non productive sectors: Military "service," weapons manufacturing, non workers living on government benefits, financial services, various useless government offices-- and derivatives thereof such a healthcare and education funded by benefits from the wage earners of useless sectors.

    There will be a shift to a more Canadian/Latin American type of economy where agriculture and resource extraction will make up the majority of GDP.

    America's premier high tech manufacturers make overpriced defective products, e.g Boeing.

    The U.S can import all the STEM graduates in the world but it would yield no results if the culture remains greed oriented and elite dominated and exploitative.

    Replies: @animalogic, @Brad Anbro

    I vehemently disagree with your generalized statement that “American wages are too high.” I would agree that “some” American wages are too high, but the majority of Americans’ wages have less purchasing power than I did in 1969, the year I graduated from high school and got my first factory job, where I earned \$2.24 per hour and could buy MORE with that \$2.24 than I could with the \$25+ wage that I retired with.

    I believe that a better general statement would be “American SALARIES are too high” – especially the salaries being paid to useless “leaders” of corporations that push papers around and try to figure out how to get more for themselves and the (rich) stockholders (and less for their employees). Add to that the salaries of the entire banking & “financial” “industries.”

    Also, the individuals in the entertainment industry. And last, but not least, the grossly overpaid persons in professional sports. But you really can’t blame the sports people – they’re just trying to get what the other over-compensated individuals receive.

    Now for the most grossly UNDERPAID individuals in our country – the commercial airline pilots and the “semi” tractor/trailer drivers. When was the last time that YOU had the personal responsibility of a gasoline tanker truck driver? Or a commercial pilot? Probably never.

    The country needs to get back to where it was just after World War II – when unions were strong and the United States manufactured everything that it needed and paid a good wage. There is absolutely NO shortage of money in this country with which to pay individuals decent wages. The only “shortage” in our country is the greed of (some) Americans and their complete lack of compassion for their fellow citizens!

    • Replies: @anyone with a brain
    @Brad Anbro

    I see your point, and am also mindful that americans have insane housing costs and also having a car is obligatory.

    How much annual discretionary money does one need to live a decent life.

    Assuming 25 dollars per hour, 25% taxes, 40 hour work week. Take home pay is 730 dollars a week and 2,920 per month and assuming, 1,200 dollars of monthly expenses. That equals 1,420 dollars a month of cash to spend on whatever you want. That is 17,040 dollars a year. If you don't pay rent or have mortgage payments, let's assume that is 1000 usd per month. The you have 2,420 dollars a month, 29,000 dollars a year.

    That is a lot of money, especially compared to the third world, if one is being compensated that much for factory work, work that could be done in the third world and just as well by a younger labour force with lower rates of drug addiction and obesity. One would have to be crazy to continue manufacturing in the U.S.

    Again my calculations are back of the envelope calculations but even then. Why should a firm pay the cost of the luxury cars of the landlord and doctors of employees? When in the third world employees can get the same level of healthcare and housing from less greedy real estate and health sectors.

    The U.S economy has a lot of parasites working bullshit jobs, however any correction to it will end up dropping wages, because when compared to the rest of the world Americans make a *TON* of money.

    You ought to compare wages for the jobs you said are underpaid, with wages overseas.

    Replies: @anyone with a brain

  17. @Brad Anbro
    @anyone with a brain

    I vehemently disagree with your generalized statement that "American wages are too high." I would agree that "some" American wages are too high, but the majority of Americans' wages have less purchasing power than I did in 1969, the year I graduated from high school and got my first factory job, where I earned $2.24 per hour and could buy MORE with that $2.24 than I could with the $25+ wage that I retired with.

    I believe that a better general statement would be "American SALARIES are too high" - especially the salaries being paid to useless "leaders" of corporations that push papers around and try to figure out how to get more for themselves and the (rich) stockholders (and less for their employees). Add to that the salaries of the entire banking & "financial" "industries."

    Also, the individuals in the entertainment industry. And last, but not least, the grossly overpaid persons in professional sports. But you really can't blame the sports people - they're just trying to get what the other over-compensated individuals receive.

    Now for the most grossly UNDERPAID individuals in our country - the commercial airline pilots and the "semi" tractor/trailer drivers. When was the last time that YOU had the personal responsibility of a gasoline tanker truck driver? Or a commercial pilot? Probably never.

    The country needs to get back to where it was just after World War II - when unions were strong and the United States manufactured everything that it needed and paid a good wage. There is absolutely NO shortage of money in this country with which to pay individuals decent wages. The only "shortage" in our country is the greed of (some) Americans and their complete lack of compassion for their fellow citizens!

    Replies: @anyone with a brain

    I see your point, and am also mindful that americans have insane housing costs and also having a car is obligatory.

    How much annual discretionary money does one need to live a decent life.

    Assuming 25 dollars per hour, 25% taxes, 40 hour work week. Take home pay is 730 dollars a week and 2,920 per month and assuming, 1,200 dollars of monthly expenses. That equals 1,420 dollars a month of cash to spend on whatever you want. That is 17,040 dollars a year. If you don’t pay rent or have mortgage payments, let’s assume that is 1000 usd per month. The you have 2,420 dollars a month, 29,000 dollars a year.

    That is a lot of money, especially compared to the third world, if one is being compensated that much for factory work, work that could be done in the third world and just as well by a younger labour force with lower rates of drug addiction and obesity. One would have to be crazy to continue manufacturing in the U.S.

    Again my calculations are back of the envelope calculations but even then. Why should a firm pay the cost of the luxury cars of the landlord and doctors of employees? When in the third world employees can get the same level of healthcare and housing from less greedy real estate and health sectors.

    The U.S economy has a lot of parasites working bullshit jobs, however any correction to it will end up dropping wages, because when compared to the rest of the world Americans make a *TON* of money.

    You ought to compare wages for the jobs you said are underpaid, with wages overseas.

    • Replies: @anyone with a brain
    @anyone with a brain

    Oops, I was not sure whether to use use 1200 or 1600 for monthly expenses, I thought I used 1600, so I used 1000 for housing, but assuming 1000 for housing and 200 for other expenses is kind of unfair. Either way my point stand.

    I am also in awe at the benefits and pay of U.S soldiers, they get everything paid for and get more benefits of they are married. Keep in mind most of these people produce nothing of value, especially the ones stationed overseas.

    Replies: @Abolish_public_education

  18. You missed my point completely. I was discussing living and working conditions in the United States. I do not care how high or low wages are in other parts of the world.

    My point is that there is more than enough money to go around here in the United States, if the rich would begin to pay their own way, as they did after World War II. Currently, the effective income tax rates here in the United States are at their lowest point since World War II.

    The whole problem is GREED and (Americans’) lack of compassion for their fellow citizens. The United States has become a washed-up Banana Republic, which went from manufacturing useful products for Americans to purchase and making a decent wage, to being a has-been world manufacturing powerhouse, whose main industries now are the armaments industry, petroleum, illegal drugs and screwing others out of their money.

    I stand by my comments because the FACTS speak for themselves, not withstanding what the totally corrupt “Democrats” and “Republicans” tell their constituents. And the corporate-owned media.

    • Replies: @anyone with a brain
    @Brad Anbro

    I totally get what you are saying.

    My not related point is that by any global measure Americans are over paid. Any levelling on a global scale would mean a significant drop in American living standards.
    That point is related to this article because the article supposes it is natural and rational for American wages to stay high when in truth it is highly unnatural and will end soon. Americans think they are going to be able to compete with China, Russia and Europe, but they can't. It has been dollar diplomacy and weak neighbours and two oceans separating Americans from hostile invaders that had kept American wages high.

    Americans can compete but it would require an enormous shift in the culture. From hustling to producing.

  19. The country needs to get back to where it was just after World War II ..

    Get off this union, Union, UNION! high horse.

    What’s needed is less government, especially on the backs of business. Private firms naturally respond to the hardships imposed on them by moving capital [including human, i.e. jobs] offshore.

    Bigger picture, today’s MW jobs should be enough to support a middle class lifestyle. That is because prices, for things people want to buy, generally fall faster than wages. Everyone is familiar with cheaper and more functional cell phones. But that wealth creation magic (i.e. more for less) should be occuring EVERYWHERE in the economy, to one extent or another.

    If it weren’t for government regulations on the oil industry, e.g. no drilling off Malibu, no XYZ pipeline, no fracking, and its direct burdens on consumers, e.g. taxes and wars, then a gallon of gasoline today would cost LESS than it did in ’29 (inflation adjusted).

    For instance, in ’29 leaded gas cost 21¢/gal. A gallon of unleaded today should cost <= \$1.75. That’s right. (In CA, state gasoline taxes alone currently add > 60¢.)

    In ’29, entry level (i.e. MW) jobs paid ~50¢/hr. So 1 hour of work could buy 2.5 gallons of gas. Currently, the MW in CA is \$15/hr. Up until a few weeks ago, gas prices here — the highest in the nation — averaged about \$4.40/gal. So despite all the taxes and regulations imposed on the industry in the past 50 years, one hour of work could buy 3.4 gallons. (In the less government world of which I write, 1 hr of work should buy more than 9 gallons.)

  20. @anyone with a brain
    @Brad Anbro

    I see your point, and am also mindful that americans have insane housing costs and also having a car is obligatory.

    How much annual discretionary money does one need to live a decent life.

    Assuming 25 dollars per hour, 25% taxes, 40 hour work week. Take home pay is 730 dollars a week and 2,920 per month and assuming, 1,200 dollars of monthly expenses. That equals 1,420 dollars a month of cash to spend on whatever you want. That is 17,040 dollars a year. If you don't pay rent or have mortgage payments, let's assume that is 1000 usd per month. The you have 2,420 dollars a month, 29,000 dollars a year.

    That is a lot of money, especially compared to the third world, if one is being compensated that much for factory work, work that could be done in the third world and just as well by a younger labour force with lower rates of drug addiction and obesity. One would have to be crazy to continue manufacturing in the U.S.

    Again my calculations are back of the envelope calculations but even then. Why should a firm pay the cost of the luxury cars of the landlord and doctors of employees? When in the third world employees can get the same level of healthcare and housing from less greedy real estate and health sectors.

    The U.S economy has a lot of parasites working bullshit jobs, however any correction to it will end up dropping wages, because when compared to the rest of the world Americans make a *TON* of money.

    You ought to compare wages for the jobs you said are underpaid, with wages overseas.

    Replies: @anyone with a brain

    Oops, I was not sure whether to use use 1200 or 1600 for monthly expenses, I thought I used 1600, so I used 1000 for housing, but assuming 1000 for housing and 200 for other expenses is kind of unfair. Either way my point stand.

    I am also in awe at the benefits and pay of U.S soldiers, they get everything paid for and get more benefits of they are married. Keep in mind most of these people produce nothing of value, especially the ones stationed overseas.

    • Replies: @Abolish_public_education
    @anyone with a brain

    Today's equivalent of '29 wages is only ~$4.50/hr. Meanwhile, with employment taxes (e.g. FICA) factored in, the current MW ($15/hr) is actually more like $16; even so, employers where I live are screaming for help. By my calculation (I'm not an economist), over the past 90+ years, private sector worker productivity has really gone UP. This, despite all the gov kneecapping of the economy. Talk about magic!

    Had gov policy over that span been more laissez-faire and all other things stayed "flat", one hour of work ($4.5) would still only purchase 2.5 gallons (@$1.75).

    wiki reports that the '27 Model-T then-sold new for $360 ($5,400 equivalent); I'd say today's # is closer to $3,600, but what do I know? When one sees that a '22 Ecosport -- F's baseline, economy car -- MSRPs at $22,000, that's all someone needs to know about how USG policies have decimated the American middle class.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  21. @anyone with a brain
    @anyone with a brain

    Oops, I was not sure whether to use use 1200 or 1600 for monthly expenses, I thought I used 1600, so I used 1000 for housing, but assuming 1000 for housing and 200 for other expenses is kind of unfair. Either way my point stand.

    I am also in awe at the benefits and pay of U.S soldiers, they get everything paid for and get more benefits of they are married. Keep in mind most of these people produce nothing of value, especially the ones stationed overseas.

    Replies: @Abolish_public_education

    Today’s equivalent of ’29 wages is only ~\$4.50/hr. Meanwhile, with employment taxes (e.g. FICA) factored in, the current MW (\$15/hr) is actually more like \$16; even so, employers where I live are screaming for help. By my calculation (I’m not an economist), over the past 90+ years, private sector worker productivity has really gone UP. This, despite all the gov kneecapping of the economy. Talk about magic!

    Had gov policy over that span been more laissez-faire and all other things stayed “flat”, one hour of work (\$4.5) would still only purchase 2.5 gallons (@\$1.75).

    wiki reports that the ’27 Model-T then-sold new for \$360 (\$5,400 equivalent); I’d say today’s # is closer to \$3,600, but what do I know? When one sees that a ’22 Ecosport — F’s baseline, economy car — MSRPs at \$22,000, that’s all someone needs to know about how USG policies have decimated the American middle class.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Abolish_public_education

    I agree with your ideas in these comments, A_p_e, but I think you have a "deflated" idea of how much inflation we've had over the years. I don't agree that the dollar of 95 years ago is the same as a 10 today. I'd say it's between a 50 and a 100. Let me give you something I wrote about REAL money in this Peak Stupidity post (near the bottom) a few years ago about the price of gasoline:


    Remember that I wrote in the last post that one could get a gallon of gasoline for 2 or 3 silver dimes, well for 2 or 3 of ANY dimes. Now, if one ran into a counter-clerk inside the station who a) could speak English and b) understands the value of real money,... hahahaaa ... OK, not bloody likely... Just say that you did. 2 or 3 pre-1965 dimes which contain mostly silver would still buy you that 1 gallon of gasoline.

    Let me give a few details on that last bit: The cool thing with that old silver money was that the silver amount was linear with face value (denomination). They all have 90% silver and because the weights of those 1964-and-earlier dimes, quarters, 1/2 dollars, and dollars were made linear with denomination, the silver amount is too. Lastly, except for the Morgan and Peace dollars, the 1 dollar coin weighs in at ~ .8 tr-oz, 1 dollar in face value results in 0.72 tr-oz of silver. Therefore, at a mid-range of the fairly stable $14 - $18/oz spot price of silver, 2 dimes, or 20¢, has 0.144 tr-oz, of it, which fetches $2.30 in our fiat dollars, enough to buy, HEY!, yes, 1 gallon of gas.

    Does that last part have anything to say about what is REAL MONEY and what are just pieces of green paper? Indubitably, it does!
     
    Gas may have been on the high side if it were $0.20/G in the 1920s. One could get if for that in the 1960's. To update my post, 2 silver dimes could get you around a gallon of gas in 1964. Had you kept those dimes, and if you didn't get ripped off "selling" them for pieces of paper and cheap-metal coins, at the spot price of $25/tr-oz (which you cannot actually GET silver for - you try it) that 0.144 oz would get you, wallahh!, a gallon of $3.60 gas. Oops, it's not $3.6o? Yeah, how much tax are you paying vs in 1964?

    Replies: @Abolish_public_education

  22. @Brad Anbro
    You missed my point completely. I was discussing living and working conditions in the United States. I do not care how high or low wages are in other parts of the world.

    My point is that there is more than enough money to go around here in the United States, if the rich would begin to pay their own way, as they did after World War II. Currently, the effective income tax rates here in the United States are at their lowest point since World War II.

    The whole problem is GREED and (Americans') lack of compassion for their fellow citizens. The United States has become a washed-up Banana Republic, which went from manufacturing useful products for Americans to purchase and making a decent wage, to being a has-been world manufacturing powerhouse, whose main industries now are the armaments industry, petroleum, illegal drugs and screwing others out of their money.

    I stand by my comments because the FACTS speak for themselves, not withstanding what the totally corrupt "Democrats" and "Republicans" tell their constituents. And the corporate-owned media.

    Replies: @anyone with a brain

    I totally get what you are saying.

    My not related point is that by any global measure Americans are over paid. Any levelling on a global scale would mean a significant drop in American living standards.
    That point is related to this article because the article supposes it is natural and rational for American wages to stay high when in truth it is highly unnatural and will end soon. Americans think they are going to be able to compete with China, Russia and Europe, but they can’t. It has been dollar diplomacy and weak neighbours and two oceans separating Americans from hostile invaders that had kept American wages high.

    Americans can compete but it would require an enormous shift in the culture. From hustling to producing.

  23. Yes, and the BIGGEST “hustlers” are the (legal) hustlers running the corporations, the banks and in the so-called “financial industry,” whose main objective is to screw any one out of money that they can. This is not to mention the criminal Federal Reserve and their attendant handmaidens, the individual banks. But that is another subject altogether. Also, the criminal IMF, the WB, the WTO and the UN organizations.

    Our country needs to change its name from the “United States” to “Scams R Us.” Might just as well call a spade a spade…

  24. @Abolish_public_education
    @anyone with a brain

    Today's equivalent of '29 wages is only ~$4.50/hr. Meanwhile, with employment taxes (e.g. FICA) factored in, the current MW ($15/hr) is actually more like $16; even so, employers where I live are screaming for help. By my calculation (I'm not an economist), over the past 90+ years, private sector worker productivity has really gone UP. This, despite all the gov kneecapping of the economy. Talk about magic!

    Had gov policy over that span been more laissez-faire and all other things stayed "flat", one hour of work ($4.5) would still only purchase 2.5 gallons (@$1.75).

    wiki reports that the '27 Model-T then-sold new for $360 ($5,400 equivalent); I'd say today's # is closer to $3,600, but what do I know? When one sees that a '22 Ecosport -- F's baseline, economy car -- MSRPs at $22,000, that's all someone needs to know about how USG policies have decimated the American middle class.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    I agree with your ideas in these comments, A_p_e, but I think you have a “deflated” idea of how much inflation we’ve had over the years. I don’t agree that the dollar of 95 years ago is the same as a 10 today. I’d say it’s between a 50 and a 100. Let me give you something I wrote about REAL money in this Peak Stupidity post (near the bottom) a few years ago about the price of gasoline:

    Remember that I wrote in the last post that one could get a gallon of gasoline for 2 or 3 silver dimes, well for 2 or 3 of ANY dimes. Now, if one ran into a counter-clerk inside the station who a) could speak English and b) understands the value of real money,… hahahaaa … OK, not bloody likely… Just say that you did. 2 or 3 pre-1965 dimes which contain mostly silver would still buy you that 1 gallon of gasoline.

    Let me give a few details on that last bit: The cool thing with that old silver money was that the silver amount was linear with face value (denomination). They all have 90% silver and because the weights of those 1964-and-earlier dimes, quarters, 1/2 dollars, and dollars were made linear with denomination, the silver amount is too. Lastly, except for the Morgan and Peace dollars, the 1 dollar coin weighs in at ~ .8 tr-oz, 1 dollar in face value results in 0.72 tr-oz of silver. Therefore, at a mid-range of the fairly stable \$14 – \$18/oz spot price of silver, 2 dimes, or 20¢, has 0.144 tr-oz, of it, which fetches \$2.30 in our fiat dollars, enough to buy, HEY!, yes, 1 gallon of gas.

    Does that last part have anything to say about what is REAL MONEY and what are just pieces of green paper? Indubitably, it does!

    Gas may have been on the high side if it were \$0.20/G in the 1920s. One could get if for that in the 1960’s. To update my post, 2 silver dimes could get you around a gallon of gas in 1964. Had you kept those dimes, and if you didn’t get ripped off “selling” them for pieces of paper and cheap-metal coins, at the spot price of \$25/tr-oz (which you cannot actually GET silver for – you try it) that 0.144 oz would get you, wallahh!, a gallon of \$3.60 gas. Oops, it’s not \$3.6o? Yeah, how much tax are you paying vs in 1964?

    • Replies: @Abolish_public_education
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I don’t agree that the dollar of 95 years ago is the same as a 10 today. I’d say it’s between a 50 and a 100.

    I used a long-term, average inflation rate of 2.5% (prices double every 29 years). If it weren't for the heroic activities of the private sector, then dollar-prices of goods would indeed be rising much faster.

    I agree that the [US Federal Reserve] has destroyed the value of the dollar, but so long as one tracks the prices of different commodities relative to the same standard (i.e. apples to apples), one should discover around the same, relative price movement.

    In '29, a unit of gold could buy X hours of unskilled labor and Y gallons of gas. In 2022 ..

    Y ÷ X should still about what I calculated.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  25. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Abolish_public_education

    I agree with your ideas in these comments, A_p_e, but I think you have a "deflated" idea of how much inflation we've had over the years. I don't agree that the dollar of 95 years ago is the same as a 10 today. I'd say it's between a 50 and a 100. Let me give you something I wrote about REAL money in this Peak Stupidity post (near the bottom) a few years ago about the price of gasoline:


    Remember that I wrote in the last post that one could get a gallon of gasoline for 2 or 3 silver dimes, well for 2 or 3 of ANY dimes. Now, if one ran into a counter-clerk inside the station who a) could speak English and b) understands the value of real money,... hahahaaa ... OK, not bloody likely... Just say that you did. 2 or 3 pre-1965 dimes which contain mostly silver would still buy you that 1 gallon of gasoline.

    Let me give a few details on that last bit: The cool thing with that old silver money was that the silver amount was linear with face value (denomination). They all have 90% silver and because the weights of those 1964-and-earlier dimes, quarters, 1/2 dollars, and dollars were made linear with denomination, the silver amount is too. Lastly, except for the Morgan and Peace dollars, the 1 dollar coin weighs in at ~ .8 tr-oz, 1 dollar in face value results in 0.72 tr-oz of silver. Therefore, at a mid-range of the fairly stable $14 - $18/oz spot price of silver, 2 dimes, or 20¢, has 0.144 tr-oz, of it, which fetches $2.30 in our fiat dollars, enough to buy, HEY!, yes, 1 gallon of gas.

    Does that last part have anything to say about what is REAL MONEY and what are just pieces of green paper? Indubitably, it does!
     
    Gas may have been on the high side if it were $0.20/G in the 1920s. One could get if for that in the 1960's. To update my post, 2 silver dimes could get you around a gallon of gas in 1964. Had you kept those dimes, and if you didn't get ripped off "selling" them for pieces of paper and cheap-metal coins, at the spot price of $25/tr-oz (which you cannot actually GET silver for - you try it) that 0.144 oz would get you, wallahh!, a gallon of $3.60 gas. Oops, it's not $3.6o? Yeah, how much tax are you paying vs in 1964?

    Replies: @Abolish_public_education

    I don’t agree that the dollar of 95 years ago is the same as a 10 today. I’d say it’s between a 50 and a 100.

    I used a long-term, average inflation rate of 2.5% (prices double every 29 years). If it weren’t for the heroic activities of the private sector, then dollar-prices of goods would indeed be rising much faster.

    I agree that the [US Federal Reserve] has destroyed the value of the dollar, but so long as one tracks the prices of different commodities relative to the same standard (i.e. apples to apples), one should discover around the same, relative price movement.

    In ’29, a unit of gold could buy X hours of unskilled labor and Y gallons of gas. In 2022 ..

    Y ÷ X should still about what I calculated.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Abolish_public_education

    An oz of Gold can buy 475 gallons of gasoline today, where I live, while it would have bought 100 gallons of gas in 1929 IF it were at the 20 cents you said. I'm not saying I don't believe you on that price. I just haven't checked it out, but if it was, then that was a lot of money for the time. I don't think the oil business was as big then, and autos were not yet ubiquitous.

  26. @Abolish_public_education
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I don’t agree that the dollar of 95 years ago is the same as a 10 today. I’d say it’s between a 50 and a 100.

    I used a long-term, average inflation rate of 2.5% (prices double every 29 years). If it weren't for the heroic activities of the private sector, then dollar-prices of goods would indeed be rising much faster.

    I agree that the [US Federal Reserve] has destroyed the value of the dollar, but so long as one tracks the prices of different commodities relative to the same standard (i.e. apples to apples), one should discover around the same, relative price movement.

    In '29, a unit of gold could buy X hours of unskilled labor and Y gallons of gas. In 2022 ..

    Y ÷ X should still about what I calculated.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    An oz of Gold can buy 475 gallons of gasoline today, where I live, while it would have bought 100 gallons of gas in 1929 IF it were at the 20 cents you said. I’m not saying I don’t believe you on that price. I just haven’t checked it out, but if it was, then that was a lot of money for the time. I don’t think the oil business was as big then, and autos were not yet ubiquitous.

  27. Another quick search confirms 21¢ and a downward trend to gasoline prices during the 1920’s (it says equivalent to \$2.41). This site says 20¢/\$3.24.

    I’m surprised your local comparison to gold is 4.75. I used a pre- Uke war figure of \$4.40/gal.

    A quick search shows that in ’29, the price of gold was \$20.67 per [oz]. 1 oz would buy 98.4 gallons. Close enough to your baseline figure.

    Three months ago the spot price of gold was ~\$1,800. @\$4.40, an ounce bought 409 gallons. Our modern figures differ a bit.

    Anyway, 409 ÷ 98.4 = 4.2X as much. Less than your figure, but still way more than the [per hour of labor] ratio would predict.

    The last time that [per oz of gold] could buy 36% more (3.4:2.5) than it did in ’29, equivalent to 133.8 gallons, was back in, umm .. 20 years ago?

    So much for my economic predictions.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Abolish_public_education

    It's not hard to fathom. Gold and silver are REAL money. (Yes, and gasoline was expensive in the 1920s.)


    Our modern figures differ a bit.
     
    Yeah, because the spot prices of gold and silver go up and down on a small time scale, and the price of gas does too. I'm talking about the big picture. A dollar a century ago would be like a hundred dollar bill now, in what it could generally buy. A fiver in 1980 would buy what a twenty does today.
  28. @Abolish_public_education
    Another quick search confirms 21¢ and a downward trend to gasoline prices during the 1920's (it says equivalent to $2.41). This site says 20¢/$3.24.

    I'm surprised your local comparison to gold is 4.75. I used a pre- Uke war figure of $4.40/gal.

    A quick search shows that in '29, the price of gold was $20.67 per [oz]. 1 oz would buy 98.4 gallons. Close enough to your baseline figure.

    Three months ago the spot price of gold was ~$1,800. @$4.40, an ounce bought 409 gallons. Our modern figures differ a bit.

    Anyway, 409 ÷ 98.4 = 4.2X as much. Less than your figure, but still way more than the [per hour of labor] ratio would predict.

    The last time that [per oz of gold] could buy 36% more (3.4:2.5) than it did in '29, equivalent to 133.8 gallons, was back in, umm .. 20 years ago?

    So much for my economic predictions.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    It’s not hard to fathom. Gold and silver are REAL money. (Yes, and gasoline was expensive in the 1920s.)

    Our modern figures differ a bit.

    Yeah, because the spot prices of gold and silver go up and down on a small time scale, and the price of gas does too. I’m talking about the big picture. A dollar a century ago would be like a hundred dollar bill now, in what it could generally buy. A fiver in 1980 would buy what a twenty does today.

  29. @SafeNow
    Recently, it took 10 days for my sick dog’s veterinary appointment date to come up. Southern California. Stories like this abound. Newspapers cover these stories up, for the obvious reasons. This is a tech-worker shortage. I am not interested in fixing the shortage with native-U.S. workers years from now. Fix it right now. A recent study of skill and competence of medical workers ranked the US. 28th. (Japan was number one.) A 2016 Hopkins study found that 250,000 die annually from medical negligence. Ask the American people if they want, right now, more proficient, patient, conscientious, fastidious Chinese docs, or, more leafblowers.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @anyone with a brain, @Biff K

    Nobody goes to medical school anymore. It’s VET school. That’s where the megabucks are. All these nulliparous white women get a dog or 2 at about age 40. I think the term is “fur babies.” Veterinarians’ rates are not regulated like your doctor’s are. So, they charge whatever they can get away with. Even more so than dentists. The horrible inept breeding of dogs over the past 20 years has produced a huge patient load for that money grubbing vet. He’s lovin’ it!

    I can remember when vet school was remotely a 3rd level alternative for the poor sucker (5 out of 6 in the mid 70’s) who couldn’t get into med school no matter how hard they tried. Podiatry and chiropractor schools were considered semi-acceptable alternatives. Not any more! It’s vet school. Oh…and, most med school grads today, say “screw this!” and go off and get an MBA after med school. Way more money and you never have to look at, let alone stick your finger in, some fat person’s asshole.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman

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