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UPDATE: Scroll down to read full motion to dismiss on constitutional grounds, memorandum in support of motion to dismiss, and stipuation of undisputed facts.

MERIDIAN, IDAHO — Kleiner Park is an all-American, family-friendly gathering place west of Boise with 60 acres of greenery, trails, ponds, outdoor performance facilities, picnic shelters, and children’s swings and slides. Two weeks ago, I enjoyed a visit there with several hundred freedom activists gathered to support GOP Lt. Gov. Janice McGeachin’s gubernatorial bid. The sun shone brightly. Toddlers romped on the lawn. A sea of unmasked faces roared the Pledge of Allegiance in joyful unison.

But all is not and never will be back to “normal” in America. Never forget that citizens across this country still face tyrannical persecution and prosecution for defying COVID-19 tyranny just two short years ago. At the publicly owned Kleiner Park, I met and embraced mom of four Sara Brady, whom I recognized instantly from the worldwide viral video of her arrest in April 2020.

“What ever happened to your case?” I asked. This un-American nightmare, it turns out, has yet to end.

On April 21, 2020, Sara and other families had been enjoying fresh air and sunshine (God’s natural immunity and mental health boosters) amid a statewide shutdown of schools. She and other moms opposed a city order that playground equipment in a public park be wrapped in what amounted to crime tape. (That apocalyptic scene had been replicated all over this nation, including in my own neighborhood park.)

Sara simply questioned aloud the junk science-rationale for punishing healthy children — while cops and park officials violated their own social-distancing rules and mask protocols.

For her crimes of constitutionally protected peaceable assembly, petition for a redress of grievances and lawful dissent, Sara was shackled, placed in a patrol car, booked into Ada County jail and charged with misdemeanor trespassing by a grandstanding Republican state attorney general.

“I’m a mother of four children and married to a (Boise) police officer,” Sara told me this week. “Our lives are so busy and chaotic simply trying to manage a household of six, let alone attempting to defend myself against the State of Idaho for literally taking my kids to a play date. It’s very daunting. I didn’t go back to ‘normal’ after that day.”

Indeed, more than two years later, after dozens of online status hearings, two suspended trial dates, four different attorneys and nearly \$30,000 in legal fees, Sara now awaits a May 31 hearing on her motion to dismiss the single criminal misdemeanor charge on constitutional grounds. Sara’s attorney, Seth Diviney, argues in his filing this week that the trespass law is unconstitutionally vague; the arresting officer exercised “unbridled authority” to “arbitrarily persecute dissenters” while others who breached the playground equipment went free; and Sara’s “expressive conduct” in the playground area of a public park “was content-based (and viewpoint-based) speech” in a “traditional public forum” that is “protected by the First Amendment.”

ORDER IT NOW

Since that revolutionary maternal act in 2020 on behalf of her children and other families, Sara has been an ongoing target of both prosecution and persecution. “I had people track me down, take videos and post them in a hate group (this group still exists, but Facebook won’t take it down). I was reported to CPS multiple times. I’ve had letters and mail come that I’ve been scared to open … Many days, I’ve wondered if I could keep going. It’s affected my mental state. There isn’t a day that goes by that I’m not dealing with it to some degree.”

But Sara has no regrets about that fateful day in Kleiner Park. In fact, she told me, “I’m hoping that I can blaze a trail and others here in Idaho can use the legal briefs I’ve paid for to stop the state from doing the same thing to them.” (You can contribute to her crowdfund campaign at https://www.givesendgo.com/supportsarabrady .) She and her family have paid another high price — doxxing by left-wing vigilantes, threats and harassment, and smears by character assassins in the media who are allergic to sovereignty-defending mothers. Buzzfeed, for example, attacked Sara for challenging her son’s school over unlawful vaccine exemption documentation. The school backed down.

The silver lining of this entire ordeal, Sara reflects, is that her viral moment helped “wake up” countless parents who had been sleeping and galvanized her own activism. “It’s really appalling how the government came in to ‘save’ everyone and then made such a huge mess, and now everyone is acting like it never happened — except for those of us that are being so harshly punished for daring to push back. I’ve learned how corrupt our government is and how fragile our freedoms are. I feel like I’ve been ‘awake’ to things going on for several years now, but these last two years have really shown me the evil we have in our country.”

Sara’s courageous battle is a light in the darkness. “Being an example to your child to stand up against tyranny is one of the most powerful messages you can give,” she told me. “Freedom is the most important gift given to us. I would rather be handcuffed and taken away from you than to bow down to the state.”

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UPDATE: Here are Sara’s most recent court motions filed by Seth Diviney yesterday:

Motion to Dismiss on Constitutional Grounds

Memorandum In Support Of Motion to Dismiss on Constitutional Grounds

Stipulation of Undisputed Facts

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  1. It is entirely lawful for the police to arrest someone who is trespassing in a park that has been properly closed to the public for health reasons. The first amendment right to protest is always limited by time, manner and place. Public health rules plainly allow government to limit public gatherings during a public health emergency. Grandstanding of the sort practiced by Ms Brady is to be frowned upon. Fascinating that when right wing types break the law, Ms Malkin has no problems with lawbreaking. But if Ms Brady had been a BLM activist, Ms Malkin would be all up in arms.

    Indeed, in her last column at Unz, Ms Malkin complained when “liberals” protested against Kelly Neidert at a college in Texas. In Ms Malkin’s book, only conservatives can protest. What is more amazing is that in the Neidert case, no one has suggested that the protestors have broken any law. Here, Ms Brady was arrested for breaking public health rules.

    Kudos to Ms Malkin for spelling Janice McGeachin’s name correctly. A few columns back, Ms Malkin wrote an entire column about the Lieutenant Governor in which Ms Malkin spelled her name incorrectly.

    • Disagree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @MeLoveYouLongTime
    @Harry Huntington

    She Ives for Double Standards.

    , @Angharad
    @Harry Huntington

    Harry - you are a pathetic, clueless tool.

    Replies: @Harry Huntington

    , @Michelle Malkin
    @Harry Huntington

    Sara’s attorney, Seth Diviney, argues in his filing this week that the trespass law is unconstitutionally vague; the arresting officer exercised “unbridled authority” to “arbitrarily persecute dissenters” while others who breached the playground equipment went free; and Sara’s “expressive conduct” in the playground area of a public park “was content-based (and viewpoint-based) speech” in a “traditional public forum” that is “protected by the First Amendment.”

    Replies: @Harry Huntington

    , @Gmcginty
    @Harry Huntington

    “Grandstanding of the sort practiced by Ms Brady is to be frowned upon.”

    Dang good thing grandstanding isn’t illegal. Every politician, every person with a political point of view, every self promoting person would be in jail.

    , @George 1
    @Harry Huntington

    Entirely Lawful? Properly Closed? Except that all of the Powers That Be knew full well that the entire Covid 19 narrative was a fraud. Fraud cannot be a basis for demanding extra constitutional authority. If fact what it is, is treason and we should call it that.

    When police enforce unconstitutional and fraudulent mandates then they are no better than the Waffen SS or the Stasi.

    , @CSFurious
    @Harry Huntington

    The better argument would be that there was no reason to shut the playground in the first place.

    Replies: @Harry Huntington

  2. If Ms. Brady had been a BLM activist, she would have been screaming obscenities, blocking traffic, and encouraging the homies to burn down the neighborhood. All she did was break utterly absurd
    “public health rules”. Good for her.

  3. Roger says: • Website

    “Two weeks ago, I enjoyed a visit there with several hundred freedom activists gathered to support GOP Lt. Gov. Janice McGeachin’s gubernatorial bid. The sun shone brightly. Toddlers romped on the lawn. A sea of unmasked faces roared the Pledge of Allegiance in joyful unison.”

    Several hundred FREEDOM activists roaring the Pledge of Allegiance to an oppressive State in joyful unison? Not only that, but these so-called “freedom” activists were supporting a known member of a system which deliberately seeks to destroy the freedom these people claim they support.

    Does anyone else see the inconsistency here?

    How can you be free if you worship an institution which wants to enslave and own you? Unless, of course, you believe that “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.”

    • Replies: @Angharad
    @Roger

    The people in Idaho were supporting Heirloom America. WHITE America. Not Jew Tyranny.

    Replies: @Roger

    , @Michelle Malkin
    @Roger

    Touche.

    Replies: @Roger

    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Roger

    It's very hard for people to give up the idea that their country is simply--gone. The rulers are an entirely different class with different values; the new, paperwork-Americans don't share your history and founding mythos; and your children will be a despised ethnic minority in the new country. These loyal, patriotic people think their America is still here, and just needs another election cycle to turn around. It's not; it's disappearing under a tide of a million immigrants and Lord only knows how many illegals a year. Change the people, change the place.

    In one generation this will all be gone, all of it. America may still have the US legal forms and placenames and governing structures, but it will essentially be Brazil. It will no more be America than Israel would be Israel if you replaced all the Israelis with Palestinians, or replaced Tibetans and Mongolians with Han Chinese, or Ukrainians with Chechnyans. In a single lifetime, the US has gone from 88% white to 63% white; in 30 years it will be 60+% nonwhite and 40% white. The nonwhite demographic majority has already been born.

    Anybody wanting the old Anglo-America will have to secede from neo-America in order to get it. But in the meantime, conservative white people with surnames like "Brady" still do things like say the Pledge of Allegiance and fly the country's flag.

    Replies: @Roger

  4. Sara Brady is a brave woman.

    Now, please tell us what you think about Ukraine.

  5. Doesn’t sound as though that rally for McScreachin did too much good, judging from her HUMILIATING LANDSLIDE DEFEAT OF OVER 20 pts!!!! LOL!!!

    And this gal has been through 4 attorneys? That tells me this gal doesn’t have much of a case and is a difficult client.

    MAGA FOREVER,,,,

  6. @Harry Huntington
    It is entirely lawful for the police to arrest someone who is trespassing in a park that has been properly closed to the public for health reasons. The first amendment right to protest is always limited by time, manner and place. Public health rules plainly allow government to limit public gatherings during a public health emergency. Grandstanding of the sort practiced by Ms Brady is to be frowned upon. Fascinating that when right wing types break the law, Ms Malkin has no problems with lawbreaking. But if Ms Brady had been a BLM activist, Ms Malkin would be all up in arms.

    Indeed, in her last column at Unz, Ms Malkin complained when "liberals" protested against Kelly Neidert at a college in Texas. In Ms Malkin's book, only conservatives can protest. What is more amazing is that in the Neidert case, no one has suggested that the protestors have broken any law. Here, Ms Brady was arrested for breaking public health rules.



    Kudos to Ms Malkin for spelling Janice McGeachin's name correctly. A few columns back, Ms Malkin wrote an entire column about the Lieutenant Governor in which Ms Malkin spelled her name incorrectly.

    Replies: @MeLoveYouLongTime, @Angharad, @Michelle Malkin, @Gmcginty, @George 1, @CSFurious

    She Ives for Double Standards.

  7. @Harry Huntington
    It is entirely lawful for the police to arrest someone who is trespassing in a park that has been properly closed to the public for health reasons. The first amendment right to protest is always limited by time, manner and place. Public health rules plainly allow government to limit public gatherings during a public health emergency. Grandstanding of the sort practiced by Ms Brady is to be frowned upon. Fascinating that when right wing types break the law, Ms Malkin has no problems with lawbreaking. But if Ms Brady had been a BLM activist, Ms Malkin would be all up in arms.

    Indeed, in her last column at Unz, Ms Malkin complained when "liberals" protested against Kelly Neidert at a college in Texas. In Ms Malkin's book, only conservatives can protest. What is more amazing is that in the Neidert case, no one has suggested that the protestors have broken any law. Here, Ms Brady was arrested for breaking public health rules.



    Kudos to Ms Malkin for spelling Janice McGeachin's name correctly. A few columns back, Ms Malkin wrote an entire column about the Lieutenant Governor in which Ms Malkin spelled her name incorrectly.

    Replies: @MeLoveYouLongTime, @Angharad, @Michelle Malkin, @Gmcginty, @George 1, @CSFurious

    Harry – you are a pathetic, clueless tool.

    • Replies: @Harry Huntington
    @Angharad

    Thank you very much for recognizing my true value. Few appreciate it.

    I recognize it can be troubling when people discuss facts that concern Ms. Malkin's columns. But you have to agree, even if I have little value, Ms Malkin's columns inspire good discussion.

  8. @Roger

    "Two weeks ago, I enjoyed a visit there with several hundred freedom activists gathered to support GOP Lt. Gov. Janice McGeachin’s gubernatorial bid. The sun shone brightly. Toddlers romped on the lawn. A sea of unmasked faces roared the Pledge of Allegiance in joyful unison."
     
    Several hundred FREEDOM activists roaring the Pledge of Allegiance to an oppressive State in joyful unison? Not only that, but these so-called "freedom" activists were supporting a known member of a system which deliberately seeks to destroy the freedom these people claim they support.

    Does anyone else see the inconsistency here?

    How can you be free if you worship an institution which wants to enslave and own you? Unless, of course, you believe that “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.”

    Replies: @Angharad, @Michelle Malkin, @The Anti-Gnostic

    The people in Idaho were supporting Heirloom America. WHITE America. Not Jew Tyranny.

    • Replies: @Roger
    @Angharad

    This has nothing to do with the color of one's skin nor their racial or ethnic heritage. It has everything to do with understanding that you cannot be free from oppressive government if you swear an oath of fealty to that government.

    George Washington, the 'father of our country', was white, yet he waged a war against white farmers in western Pennsylvania and forced them to submit to his tyranny because they dared to believe that they were free to live their lives as they saw fit. Andrew Jackson, whose image is on the $20 bill, was white, yet he literally destroyed many of the Indian tribes of south-east America by way of the Indian Removal Act of 1830 and the Trail of Tears. Abraham Lincoln, also white, and enshrined forever as one of America's "gods", killed at least 600,000 white men and boys by prosecuting the War of Northern Aggression, a.k.a., Civil War, and by doing so centralized the power of tyranny in the federal government over the individual states.

    This is your Heirloom America, your white America, and the examples cited could be multiplied many times over.

    What does the the Pledge of Allegiance say--"...with liberty and justice for all"? Right. Of course, right, and pigs fly too.

    It is ironic that in the photo above, Sarah Brady is wearing a shirt which has one word written on it. Vote! As if voting for the "right" person, perhaps even Janice McGeachen, would guarantee her liberty. Voting, in theory, is exercising your right to choose the people who will represent you in government. In reality, it is nothing more than choosing which hand holds the club with which you are beaten.

    However, I do like the quote from Brady at the end of the article. I stand with her on that.


    “Freedom is the most important gift given to us. I would rather be handcuffed and taken away from you than to bow down to the state.”
     
    Freedom is given to us by God, not the government. It does not matter what government issues the orders. They are all predicated on one presumption: that the use of force and violence by some against others is legitimate as long as it is legal.

    If Patrick Henry, another white man with an English name from Heirloom America, were here today, he would revise his famous statement. If this is liberty, then give me death.

    Replies: @Angharad

  9. @Angharad
    @Harry Huntington

    Harry - you are a pathetic, clueless tool.

    Replies: @Harry Huntington

    Thank you very much for recognizing my true value. Few appreciate it.

    I recognize it can be troubling when people discuss facts that concern Ms. Malkin’s columns. But you have to agree, even if I have little value, Ms Malkin’s columns inspire good discussion.

  10. @Roger

    "Two weeks ago, I enjoyed a visit there with several hundred freedom activists gathered to support GOP Lt. Gov. Janice McGeachin’s gubernatorial bid. The sun shone brightly. Toddlers romped on the lawn. A sea of unmasked faces roared the Pledge of Allegiance in joyful unison."
     
    Several hundred FREEDOM activists roaring the Pledge of Allegiance to an oppressive State in joyful unison? Not only that, but these so-called "freedom" activists were supporting a known member of a system which deliberately seeks to destroy the freedom these people claim they support.

    Does anyone else see the inconsistency here?

    How can you be free if you worship an institution which wants to enslave and own you? Unless, of course, you believe that “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.”

    Replies: @Angharad, @Michelle Malkin, @The Anti-Gnostic

    Touche.

    • Replies: @Roger
    @Michelle Malkin

    Thank you.

  11. @Harry Huntington
    It is entirely lawful for the police to arrest someone who is trespassing in a park that has been properly closed to the public for health reasons. The first amendment right to protest is always limited by time, manner and place. Public health rules plainly allow government to limit public gatherings during a public health emergency. Grandstanding of the sort practiced by Ms Brady is to be frowned upon. Fascinating that when right wing types break the law, Ms Malkin has no problems with lawbreaking. But if Ms Brady had been a BLM activist, Ms Malkin would be all up in arms.

    Indeed, in her last column at Unz, Ms Malkin complained when "liberals" protested against Kelly Neidert at a college in Texas. In Ms Malkin's book, only conservatives can protest. What is more amazing is that in the Neidert case, no one has suggested that the protestors have broken any law. Here, Ms Brady was arrested for breaking public health rules.



    Kudos to Ms Malkin for spelling Janice McGeachin's name correctly. A few columns back, Ms Malkin wrote an entire column about the Lieutenant Governor in which Ms Malkin spelled her name incorrectly.

    Replies: @MeLoveYouLongTime, @Angharad, @Michelle Malkin, @Gmcginty, @George 1, @CSFurious

    Sara’s attorney, Seth Diviney, argues in his filing this week that the trespass law is unconstitutionally vague; the arresting officer exercised “unbridled authority” to “arbitrarily persecute dissenters” while others who breached the playground equipment went free; and Sara’s “expressive conduct” in the playground area of a public park “was content-based (and viewpoint-based) speech” in a “traditional public forum” that is “protected by the First Amendment.”

    • Replies: @Harry Huntington
    @Michelle Malkin

    People have made that same argument about enforcement of speeding laws. Police are not required to arrest everyone who violates a law. If an area is marked off with police tape, it is pretty clear a person does not belong. "Void for vagueness" challenges to trespassing laws were popular 50 years ago, but most present statutes have been redrafted to conform to US Supreme Court guidance. If the lawyer is making an "as applied" challenge, he should not succeed based on the argument that the arrest of Sara is arbitrary-- because arrest of one person as opposed to another is always arbitrary.

    My expectation is that if she has a clean record the judge will convict but impose no sentence. A misdemeanor is not a felony so there is no automatic loss of rights attached to the conviction. It will show up on back ground checks and might disable her from obtaining a liquor license (if it is deemed violent) or from being a parent supervising a school group.

    That is why it is always best to obey the police even if you disagree with them.

    Replies: @Greta Handel, @Michelle Malkin

  12. @Michelle Malkin
    @Harry Huntington

    Sara’s attorney, Seth Diviney, argues in his filing this week that the trespass law is unconstitutionally vague; the arresting officer exercised “unbridled authority” to “arbitrarily persecute dissenters” while others who breached the playground equipment went free; and Sara’s “expressive conduct” in the playground area of a public park “was content-based (and viewpoint-based) speech” in a “traditional public forum” that is “protected by the First Amendment.”

    Replies: @Harry Huntington

    People have made that same argument about enforcement of speeding laws. Police are not required to arrest everyone who violates a law. If an area is marked off with police tape, it is pretty clear a person does not belong. “Void for vagueness” challenges to trespassing laws were popular 50 years ago, but most present statutes have been redrafted to conform to US Supreme Court guidance. If the lawyer is making an “as applied” challenge, he should not succeed based on the argument that the arrest of Sara is arbitrary– because arrest of one person as opposed to another is always arbitrary.

    My expectation is that if she has a clean record the judge will convict but impose no sentence. A misdemeanor is not a felony so there is no automatic loss of rights attached to the conviction. It will show up on back ground checks and might disable her from obtaining a liquor license (if it is deemed violent) or from being a parent supervising a school group.

    That is why it is always best to obey the police even if you disagree with them.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
    @Harry Huntington

    Corvinus Goes to Law School

    , @Michelle Malkin
    @Harry Huntington

    I just uploaded her full motion to dismiss based on constitutional grounds, memorandum ISO the motion to dismiss, and stipulation of undisputed facts.

    Replies: @Jefferson Temple, @Harry Huntington

  13. @Harry Huntington
    @Michelle Malkin

    People have made that same argument about enforcement of speeding laws. Police are not required to arrest everyone who violates a law. If an area is marked off with police tape, it is pretty clear a person does not belong. "Void for vagueness" challenges to trespassing laws were popular 50 years ago, but most present statutes have been redrafted to conform to US Supreme Court guidance. If the lawyer is making an "as applied" challenge, he should not succeed based on the argument that the arrest of Sara is arbitrary-- because arrest of one person as opposed to another is always arbitrary.

    My expectation is that if she has a clean record the judge will convict but impose no sentence. A misdemeanor is not a felony so there is no automatic loss of rights attached to the conviction. It will show up on back ground checks and might disable her from obtaining a liquor license (if it is deemed violent) or from being a parent supervising a school group.

    That is why it is always best to obey the police even if you disagree with them.

    Replies: @Greta Handel, @Michelle Malkin

    Corvinus Goes to Law School

  14. @Harry Huntington
    @Michelle Malkin

    People have made that same argument about enforcement of speeding laws. Police are not required to arrest everyone who violates a law. If an area is marked off with police tape, it is pretty clear a person does not belong. "Void for vagueness" challenges to trespassing laws were popular 50 years ago, but most present statutes have been redrafted to conform to US Supreme Court guidance. If the lawyer is making an "as applied" challenge, he should not succeed based on the argument that the arrest of Sara is arbitrary-- because arrest of one person as opposed to another is always arbitrary.

    My expectation is that if she has a clean record the judge will convict but impose no sentence. A misdemeanor is not a felony so there is no automatic loss of rights attached to the conviction. It will show up on back ground checks and might disable her from obtaining a liquor license (if it is deemed violent) or from being a parent supervising a school group.

    That is why it is always best to obey the police even if you disagree with them.

    Replies: @Greta Handel, @Michelle Malkin

    I just uploaded her full motion to dismiss based on constitutional grounds, memorandum ISO the motion to dismiss, and stipulation of undisputed facts.

    • Replies: @Jefferson Temple
    @Michelle Malkin

    'arry is a resident clown at TUR. I'm not even going to reply to this idiot anymore. He can't understand that covidcon changed everything and that by supporting the police in this situation he is supporting full on oligarchical fascism. But I'll bet he fancies himself a full on liberal. What a joke.

    , @Harry Huntington
    @Michelle Malkin

    Thanks very much for posting the brief. The fact the brief arguing "vagueness" exceeds 25 pages is problematic. The exchanges between the police officer and Sara also defeat the vagueness claim because the officers instructions to leave were clear and legal.

    I would be happy to break down the problems with the argument, but I assume the state will do a fine job of that and we can read the state's response brief. Typically this type of vagueness challenge fails--would be characterized as pettifoggery.

    The key points are:
    --It is lawful to close a public park
    --It is lawful to limit public access to public places. That is why, for example, one cannot simply walk into a mayor's office or into the yard at the state prison. Indeed, we recognize that many public places should be closed to the public entirely.
    --As is clear from the statute, parks may be closed for a public health emergency.
    --There are proper ways (including time, manner, and place) to petition government for redress of grievance. For example, it would not be proper to protest this case outside the home of the judge hearing the case. It would not be proper to protest this case by entering the secure area of the local police station to exercise a first amendment right to petition the government.

    In this case, sections of the park were taped off. The protestors entered the taped off section. The police asked them to leave. There is no ambiguity.

    Just like many years ago the supreme court found it lawful to punish men who burnt their draft cards, there are limits on first amendment rights to petition.

    Though one may disagree with public health orders, this case is not a good example of how best to lawfully protest such disagreements.

    But once again, thanks much for posting the brief.

  15. @Harry Huntington
    It is entirely lawful for the police to arrest someone who is trespassing in a park that has been properly closed to the public for health reasons. The first amendment right to protest is always limited by time, manner and place. Public health rules plainly allow government to limit public gatherings during a public health emergency. Grandstanding of the sort practiced by Ms Brady is to be frowned upon. Fascinating that when right wing types break the law, Ms Malkin has no problems with lawbreaking. But if Ms Brady had been a BLM activist, Ms Malkin would be all up in arms.

    Indeed, in her last column at Unz, Ms Malkin complained when "liberals" protested against Kelly Neidert at a college in Texas. In Ms Malkin's book, only conservatives can protest. What is more amazing is that in the Neidert case, no one has suggested that the protestors have broken any law. Here, Ms Brady was arrested for breaking public health rules.



    Kudos to Ms Malkin for spelling Janice McGeachin's name correctly. A few columns back, Ms Malkin wrote an entire column about the Lieutenant Governor in which Ms Malkin spelled her name incorrectly.

    Replies: @MeLoveYouLongTime, @Angharad, @Michelle Malkin, @Gmcginty, @George 1, @CSFurious

    “Grandstanding of the sort practiced by Ms Brady is to be frowned upon.”

    Dang good thing grandstanding isn’t illegal. Every politician, every person with a political point of view, every self promoting person would be in jail.

  16. @Michelle Malkin
    @Harry Huntington

    I just uploaded her full motion to dismiss based on constitutional grounds, memorandum ISO the motion to dismiss, and stipulation of undisputed facts.

    Replies: @Jefferson Temple, @Harry Huntington

    ‘arry is a resident clown at TUR. I’m not even going to reply to this idiot anymore. He can’t understand that covidcon changed everything and that by supporting the police in this situation he is supporting full on oligarchical fascism. But I’ll bet he fancies himself a full on liberal. What a joke.

  17. @Harry Huntington
    It is entirely lawful for the police to arrest someone who is trespassing in a park that has been properly closed to the public for health reasons. The first amendment right to protest is always limited by time, manner and place. Public health rules plainly allow government to limit public gatherings during a public health emergency. Grandstanding of the sort practiced by Ms Brady is to be frowned upon. Fascinating that when right wing types break the law, Ms Malkin has no problems with lawbreaking. But if Ms Brady had been a BLM activist, Ms Malkin would be all up in arms.

    Indeed, in her last column at Unz, Ms Malkin complained when "liberals" protested against Kelly Neidert at a college in Texas. In Ms Malkin's book, only conservatives can protest. What is more amazing is that in the Neidert case, no one has suggested that the protestors have broken any law. Here, Ms Brady was arrested for breaking public health rules.



    Kudos to Ms Malkin for spelling Janice McGeachin's name correctly. A few columns back, Ms Malkin wrote an entire column about the Lieutenant Governor in which Ms Malkin spelled her name incorrectly.

    Replies: @MeLoveYouLongTime, @Angharad, @Michelle Malkin, @Gmcginty, @George 1, @CSFurious

    Entirely Lawful? Properly Closed? Except that all of the Powers That Be knew full well that the entire Covid 19 narrative was a fraud. Fraud cannot be a basis for demanding extra constitutional authority. If fact what it is, is treason and we should call it that.

    When police enforce unconstitutional and fraudulent mandates then they are no better than the Waffen SS or the Stasi.

  18. @Michelle Malkin
    @Harry Huntington

    I just uploaded her full motion to dismiss based on constitutional grounds, memorandum ISO the motion to dismiss, and stipulation of undisputed facts.

    Replies: @Jefferson Temple, @Harry Huntington

    Thanks very much for posting the brief. The fact the brief arguing “vagueness” exceeds 25 pages is problematic. The exchanges between the police officer and Sara also defeat the vagueness claim because the officers instructions to leave were clear and legal.

    I would be happy to break down the problems with the argument, but I assume the state will do a fine job of that and we can read the state’s response brief. Typically this type of vagueness challenge fails–would be characterized as pettifoggery.

    The key points are:
    –It is lawful to close a public park
    –It is lawful to limit public access to public places. That is why, for example, one cannot simply walk into a mayor’s office or into the yard at the state prison. Indeed, we recognize that many public places should be closed to the public entirely.
    –As is clear from the statute, parks may be closed for a public health emergency.
    –There are proper ways (including time, manner, and place) to petition government for redress of grievance. For example, it would not be proper to protest this case outside the home of the judge hearing the case. It would not be proper to protest this case by entering the secure area of the local police station to exercise a first amendment right to petition the government.

    In this case, sections of the park were taped off. The protestors entered the taped off section. The police asked them to leave. There is no ambiguity.

    Just like many years ago the supreme court found it lawful to punish men who burnt their draft cards, there are limits on first amendment rights to petition.

    Though one may disagree with public health orders, this case is not a good example of how best to lawfully protest such disagreements.

    But once again, thanks much for posting the brief.

  19. @Harry Huntington
    It is entirely lawful for the police to arrest someone who is trespassing in a park that has been properly closed to the public for health reasons. The first amendment right to protest is always limited by time, manner and place. Public health rules plainly allow government to limit public gatherings during a public health emergency. Grandstanding of the sort practiced by Ms Brady is to be frowned upon. Fascinating that when right wing types break the law, Ms Malkin has no problems with lawbreaking. But if Ms Brady had been a BLM activist, Ms Malkin would be all up in arms.

    Indeed, in her last column at Unz, Ms Malkin complained when "liberals" protested against Kelly Neidert at a college in Texas. In Ms Malkin's book, only conservatives can protest. What is more amazing is that in the Neidert case, no one has suggested that the protestors have broken any law. Here, Ms Brady was arrested for breaking public health rules.



    Kudos to Ms Malkin for spelling Janice McGeachin's name correctly. A few columns back, Ms Malkin wrote an entire column about the Lieutenant Governor in which Ms Malkin spelled her name incorrectly.

    Replies: @MeLoveYouLongTime, @Angharad, @Michelle Malkin, @Gmcginty, @George 1, @CSFurious

    The better argument would be that there was no reason to shut the playground in the first place.

    • Replies: @Harry Huntington
    @CSFurious

    Ironic that your argument is an argument Antifa or BLM would make about their issues. Covid has had the delightful effect of putting the spotlight on the glaring inconsistencies in what today passes for "conservative" argument. There once was a long long time ago in a place far far away thoughtful conservatives argument. You may want some day to read books by the late Richard Weaver. Folks often like to quote the title of one of his books, Ideas Have Consequences (without actually quitting from or reading the book). You might like his Ethics of Rhetoric or Southern Tradition at Bay. The Southern Agrarians also have a nice discussion of conservative principle in I'll Take My Stand, which is a collection of essays by leading thinkers. Conservatives fell for Milton Friedman and his thoughts on economics--Friedman was correct on inflation but otherwise no conservative.

    Keep in mind several things. Lincoln was not a conservative. Ronald Reagan was an FDR Democrat who called himself Republican. Reagan conservatives were never for reducing government power or improving the lot of the middle class or expanding the middle class.

    Finance capital, private equity, real estate interests, and such are not in favor of "free markets" as classical economics understood the term.

    Bottom line point--the fact you dislike a law does not give you license to break the law in protest.

  20. Anonymous[120] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s high time that conservatives recognize that the police are the armed enforcers of state power.

  21. Michelle, can you contact me thru my website Twitreport.com about a business opportunity?
    Kind Regards

  22. @Roger

    "Two weeks ago, I enjoyed a visit there with several hundred freedom activists gathered to support GOP Lt. Gov. Janice McGeachin’s gubernatorial bid. The sun shone brightly. Toddlers romped on the lawn. A sea of unmasked faces roared the Pledge of Allegiance in joyful unison."
     
    Several hundred FREEDOM activists roaring the Pledge of Allegiance to an oppressive State in joyful unison? Not only that, but these so-called "freedom" activists were supporting a known member of a system which deliberately seeks to destroy the freedom these people claim they support.

    Does anyone else see the inconsistency here?

    How can you be free if you worship an institution which wants to enslave and own you? Unless, of course, you believe that “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.”

    Replies: @Angharad, @Michelle Malkin, @The Anti-Gnostic

    It’s very hard for people to give up the idea that their country is simply–gone. The rulers are an entirely different class with different values; the new, paperwork-Americans don’t share your history and founding mythos; and your children will be a despised ethnic minority in the new country. These loyal, patriotic people think their America is still here, and just needs another election cycle to turn around. It’s not; it’s disappearing under a tide of a million immigrants and Lord only knows how many illegals a year. Change the people, change the place.

    In one generation this will all be gone, all of it. America may still have the US legal forms and placenames and governing structures, but it will essentially be Brazil. It will no more be America than Israel would be Israel if you replaced all the Israelis with Palestinians, or replaced Tibetans and Mongolians with Han Chinese, or Ukrainians with Chechnyans. In a single lifetime, the US has gone from 88% white to 63% white; in 30 years it will be 60+% nonwhite and 40% white. The nonwhite demographic majority has already been born.

    Anybody wanting the old Anglo-America will have to secede from neo-America in order to get it. But in the meantime, conservative white people with surnames like “Brady” still do things like say the Pledge of Allegiance and fly the country’s flag.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Roger
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Paragraph #1. Absolutely correct. I have no argument with that.

    Paragraph #2. Also correct, except that America is an idea, a dream, a hope, rather than an ethnic homogenous group of people to the exclusion of everyone else. It does not matter what the color of one's skin is, where they were born, or what race they belong to, as long as the underlying foundation, "...with liberty and justice for all" is sound and adhered to religiously.

    Paragraph #3. I do not want to return to the old Anglo-America nor do I want to continue on the path we are traveling. I want to be free from ALL oppressive government. It does not matter to me what someone's name is nor their political affiliation. If they seek to rule over me, I will resist them with everything that I am capable of. Joseph McCarthy, J. Edgar Hoover, and Richard Nixon were conservative, white persons of Anglo-Saxon descent, but they did not hesitate to destroy and enslave countless other persons less fortunate. God forbid that we should go back to that form of government, even if it was conservative and white. Proverbs 26:11 sums that up quite succinctly--"As a dog returns to its vomit, so a fool repeats his folly."

    In the last paragraph of the article above, Sarah Brady is quoted,


    “Freedom is the most important gift given to us. I would rather be handcuffed and taken away from you than to bow down to the state.”
     
    The State. Any State. All States. Regardless of the composition of its subjects.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @George 1

  23. @CSFurious
    @Harry Huntington

    The better argument would be that there was no reason to shut the playground in the first place.

    Replies: @Harry Huntington

    Ironic that your argument is an argument Antifa or BLM would make about their issues. Covid has had the delightful effect of putting the spotlight on the glaring inconsistencies in what today passes for “conservative” argument. There once was a long long time ago in a place far far away thoughtful conservatives argument. You may want some day to read books by the late Richard Weaver. Folks often like to quote the title of one of his books, Ideas Have Consequences (without actually quitting from or reading the book). You might like his Ethics of Rhetoric or Southern Tradition at Bay. The Southern Agrarians also have a nice discussion of conservative principle in I’ll Take My Stand, which is a collection of essays by leading thinkers. Conservatives fell for Milton Friedman and his thoughts on economics–Friedman was correct on inflation but otherwise no conservative.

    Keep in mind several things. Lincoln was not a conservative. Ronald Reagan was an FDR Democrat who called himself Republican. Reagan conservatives were never for reducing government power or improving the lot of the middle class or expanding the middle class.

    Finance capital, private equity, real estate interests, and such are not in favor of “free markets” as classical economics understood the term.

    Bottom line point–the fact you dislike a law does not give you license to break the law in protest.

  24. @Michelle Malkin
    @Roger

    Touche.

    Replies: @Roger

    Thank you.

  25. Roger says: • Website
    @Angharad
    @Roger

    The people in Idaho were supporting Heirloom America. WHITE America. Not Jew Tyranny.

    Replies: @Roger

    This has nothing to do with the color of one’s skin nor their racial or ethnic heritage. It has everything to do with understanding that you cannot be free from oppressive government if you swear an oath of fealty to that government.

    George Washington, the ‘father of our country’, was white, yet he waged a war against white farmers in western Pennsylvania and forced them to submit to his tyranny because they dared to believe that they were free to live their lives as they saw fit. Andrew Jackson, whose image is on the \$20 bill, was white, yet he literally destroyed many of the Indian tribes of south-east America by way of the Indian Removal Act of 1830 and the Trail of Tears. Abraham Lincoln, also white, and enshrined forever as one of America’s “gods”, killed at least 600,000 white men and boys by prosecuting the War of Northern Aggression, a.k.a., Civil War, and by doing so centralized the power of tyranny in the federal government over the individual states.

    This is your Heirloom America, your white America, and the examples cited could be multiplied many times over.

    What does the the Pledge of Allegiance say–“…with liberty and justice for all”? Right. Of course, right, and pigs fly too.

    It is ironic that in the photo above, Sarah Brady is wearing a shirt which has one word written on it. Vote! As if voting for the “right” person, perhaps even Janice McGeachen, would guarantee her liberty. Voting, in theory, is exercising your right to choose the people who will represent you in government. In reality, it is nothing more than choosing which hand holds the club with which you are beaten.

    However, I do like the quote from Brady at the end of the article. I stand with her on that.

    “Freedom is the most important gift given to us. I would rather be handcuffed and taken away from you than to bow down to the state.”

    Freedom is given to us by God, not the government. It does not matter what government issues the orders. They are all predicated on one presumption: that the use of force and violence by some against others is legitimate as long as it is legal.

    If Patrick Henry, another white man with an English name from Heirloom America, were here today, he would revise his famous statement. If this is liberty, then give me death.

    • Replies: @Angharad
    @Roger

    Yawn. Get over yourself. NO place, nor person, is perfect. Washington was an arrogant, yet very talented social climber. He was a brilliant general - but an ahole as a person. Jackson - I'd like him cloned and brought back to RULE this country. Lincoln was a (((crypto))). Too bad his co-ethnic Booth didn't plug him before he took office.

    The cheering people were cheering for Heirloom America - and RACE is EVERYTHING.

  26. Roger says: • Website
    @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Roger

    It's very hard for people to give up the idea that their country is simply--gone. The rulers are an entirely different class with different values; the new, paperwork-Americans don't share your history and founding mythos; and your children will be a despised ethnic minority in the new country. These loyal, patriotic people think their America is still here, and just needs another election cycle to turn around. It's not; it's disappearing under a tide of a million immigrants and Lord only knows how many illegals a year. Change the people, change the place.

    In one generation this will all be gone, all of it. America may still have the US legal forms and placenames and governing structures, but it will essentially be Brazil. It will no more be America than Israel would be Israel if you replaced all the Israelis with Palestinians, or replaced Tibetans and Mongolians with Han Chinese, or Ukrainians with Chechnyans. In a single lifetime, the US has gone from 88% white to 63% white; in 30 years it will be 60+% nonwhite and 40% white. The nonwhite demographic majority has already been born.

    Anybody wanting the old Anglo-America will have to secede from neo-America in order to get it. But in the meantime, conservative white people with surnames like "Brady" still do things like say the Pledge of Allegiance and fly the country's flag.

    Replies: @Roger

    Paragraph #1. Absolutely correct. I have no argument with that.

    Paragraph #2. Also correct, except that America is an idea, a dream, a hope, rather than an ethnic homogenous group of people to the exclusion of everyone else. It does not matter what the color of one’s skin is, where they were born, or what race they belong to, as long as the underlying foundation, “…with liberty and justice for all” is sound and adhered to religiously.

    Paragraph #3. I do not want to return to the old Anglo-America nor do I want to continue on the path we are traveling. I want to be free from ALL oppressive government. It does not matter to me what someone’s name is nor their political affiliation. If they seek to rule over me, I will resist them with everything that I am capable of. Joseph McCarthy, J. Edgar Hoover, and Richard Nixon were conservative, white persons of Anglo-Saxon descent, but they did not hesitate to destroy and enslave countless other persons less fortunate. God forbid that we should go back to that form of government, even if it was conservative and white. Proverbs 26:11 sums that up quite succinctly–“As a dog returns to its vomit, so a fool repeats his folly.”

    In the last paragraph of the article above, Sarah Brady is quoted,

    “Freedom is the most important gift given to us. I would rather be handcuffed and taken away from you than to bow down to the state.”

    The State. Any State. All States. Regardless of the composition of its subjects.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Roger

    Diversity, liberty or equality; choose one.

    Replies: @Roger

    , @George 1
    @Roger

    A first world country cannot import multiple millions of people every year with IQs a full standard deviation below the average of the importing country without destroying itself. We have been doing that for a long time but Brandon has put it on steroids.

    The "America is an idea" crowd are fools. The "New Americans" don't care and are not capable of caring one bit about our representative republic or our concepts of liberty. The new Americans are totally incapable of maintaining a modern society. I would point you toward Southern California. Outside of a few enclaves S.C. is now a foreign country. How do you suppose that happened?

    Western society with a focus on Liberty cannot be maintained by our emerging demographic. The social capitol to do so simply does not exist.

    Replies: @Roger, @Achmed E. Newman, @anarchyst

  27. @Roger
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Paragraph #1. Absolutely correct. I have no argument with that.

    Paragraph #2. Also correct, except that America is an idea, a dream, a hope, rather than an ethnic homogenous group of people to the exclusion of everyone else. It does not matter what the color of one's skin is, where they were born, or what race they belong to, as long as the underlying foundation, "...with liberty and justice for all" is sound and adhered to religiously.

    Paragraph #3. I do not want to return to the old Anglo-America nor do I want to continue on the path we are traveling. I want to be free from ALL oppressive government. It does not matter to me what someone's name is nor their political affiliation. If they seek to rule over me, I will resist them with everything that I am capable of. Joseph McCarthy, J. Edgar Hoover, and Richard Nixon were conservative, white persons of Anglo-Saxon descent, but they did not hesitate to destroy and enslave countless other persons less fortunate. God forbid that we should go back to that form of government, even if it was conservative and white. Proverbs 26:11 sums that up quite succinctly--"As a dog returns to its vomit, so a fool repeats his folly."

    In the last paragraph of the article above, Sarah Brady is quoted,


    “Freedom is the most important gift given to us. I would rather be handcuffed and taken away from you than to bow down to the state.”
     
    The State. Any State. All States. Regardless of the composition of its subjects.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @George 1

    Diversity, liberty or equality; choose one.

    • Agree: Angharad
    • Replies: @Roger
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    If you want to refute my argument, then do so. I will gladly engage. If you do not or cannot, then post more comments like this one, which mean nothing.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

  28. Do the black neighborhood playground now. Didn’t think so. REALLY EASY TO PUSH AROUND WHITE MOTHERS ON HIS POWER TRIP. Bet he wishes he could have turned the dog loose on her.

  29. @Roger
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Paragraph #1. Absolutely correct. I have no argument with that.

    Paragraph #2. Also correct, except that America is an idea, a dream, a hope, rather than an ethnic homogenous group of people to the exclusion of everyone else. It does not matter what the color of one's skin is, where they were born, or what race they belong to, as long as the underlying foundation, "...with liberty and justice for all" is sound and adhered to religiously.

    Paragraph #3. I do not want to return to the old Anglo-America nor do I want to continue on the path we are traveling. I want to be free from ALL oppressive government. It does not matter to me what someone's name is nor their political affiliation. If they seek to rule over me, I will resist them with everything that I am capable of. Joseph McCarthy, J. Edgar Hoover, and Richard Nixon were conservative, white persons of Anglo-Saxon descent, but they did not hesitate to destroy and enslave countless other persons less fortunate. God forbid that we should go back to that form of government, even if it was conservative and white. Proverbs 26:11 sums that up quite succinctly--"As a dog returns to its vomit, so a fool repeats his folly."

    In the last paragraph of the article above, Sarah Brady is quoted,


    “Freedom is the most important gift given to us. I would rather be handcuffed and taken away from you than to bow down to the state.”
     
    The State. Any State. All States. Regardless of the composition of its subjects.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @George 1

    A first world country cannot import multiple millions of people every year with IQs a full standard deviation below the average of the importing country without destroying itself. We have been doing that for a long time but Brandon has put it on steroids.

    The “America is an idea” crowd are fools. The “New Americans” don’t care and are not capable of caring one bit about our representative republic or our concepts of liberty. The new Americans are totally incapable of maintaining a modern society. I would point you toward Southern California. Outside of a few enclaves S.C. is now a foreign country. How do you suppose that happened?

    Western society with a focus on Liberty cannot be maintained by our emerging demographic. The social capitol to do so simply does not exist.

    • Replies: @Roger
    @George 1

    Well, I have not been called a fool for a long time, but you must have seen something. What is it?

    As to your comment,


    "Western society with a focus on Liberty cannot be maintained by our emerging demographic. The social capitol to do so simply does not exist."
     
    Tell that to those who roar out the Pledge of Allegiance joyfully, in unison, without ever considering that one of the phrases says, "...one nation under God, indivisible..." Those who believe this are caught up in a fantasy that America will always exist in the form it has always been. One nation. Indivisible. The facts on the ground refute that, though, because America is splintering and will, sooner or later, disintegrate into many different social groups, each of them trying to persuade their adherents (and outsiders, sinners all) that they have the authority of Truth to back them up.

    If Western society with a focus on liberty cannot be maintained by our emerging demographic, then I say it is time we went our separate ways and quit deluding ourselves that we are one nation. Peaceful dissolution would be the best way, but we will probably take the hard road of violent dismemberment, simply because we cannot conceive of any other idea than being the top dog and forcing everyone else to submit to the perceived order.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @George 1

    Right, George. For those unaware, Michelle Malkin has played a big part in anti-immigration-invasion activism. That is along with all the rest of her political stances. I'm pretty sure she would agree with Anti-Gnostic, your, and my take on this point.

    10 years ago, when Ron Paul was running for the GOP primary, I told him in person "if you want to win [my State], you need to talk about illegal immigration" I wish he'd taken that to heart and become a much smarter and more capable version of a Donald Trump of '16.

    I can tell from his columns that Dr. Paul really does get this now: Of these dozens of millions of immigrants (legal and otherwise) arriving every decade, we are not getting more than a handful of future Citizenship in the Nation merit badge earners, Constitution-readers, or Ron Paul Liberty Report viewers..

    Sorry, I got completely O/T from the post. We are lucky to live in an area in which the police are more mellow in some ways. I remember this very time, April of '20, and we went to the parks every nice day too. Even when the silly crime tape was up, people played on whatever they wanted to.

    , @anarchyst
    @George 1

    There’s more.
    Yes, our “obsolete farm machinery” is a major problem, and has been for a long time, but another “elephant in the room” is many of today’s immigrants.
    There used to be a time when just about ANY immigrant who set upon the shores of America was not only grateful, but willing to shed his “old world” ways and support his adopted country.
    He might have not known the language, and found some American customs and practices “strange”, but he fully embraced the idea that he could be an AMERICAN. He not only embraced the American ideal, but made damn sure that his children fully appreciated the land in which they were born.
    Contrast that to today’s immigrant, who is only concerned about one thing–American dollars. Today’s immigrants care not about the founding principles of this country, the Constitutional principles in which our rights are endowed by our Creator, that our “rights” are not granted by government, and that the most important thing about being an American is the sense of freedom that he doesn’t want for himself or his offspring.
    Today’s immigrant brings his “old-world” customs and squabbles here, demanding that us native-born Americans kowtow to him and change OUR ways to accommodate his “old-world” ways.
    Their children are not encouraged to become Americans and fully assimilate, but are required to maintain their “old-world” customs and ways, even if they run counter to American customs and mores.
    These old-world customs and ways quite often are criminal in nature, and do nothing to endear them to native-born Americans. They just do not want to assimilate.
    Many immigrants, once here, will bring their elderly relatives here to sponge off the Social Security system, even though they have not paid a penny into the system.
    Welfare and social services scams are common. Those immigrants who run retail businesses receive special “loans” from the federal government–loans not available to native-born Americans.
    Russian immigrants are expert at running Medicare and other healthcare scams. Middle eastern types run welfare “bridge card (EBT)” scams.
    Jews are even more brazen. There are entire jewish communities that openly flout “civil-rights” and “anti-discrimination” laws with impunity. These communities will not allow anyone not of jewish persuasion to buy real-estate or attend the so-called “public schools”. You see, these communities are “jews-only”. In addition, they are massive users of the social welfare system, out of proportion of their numbers. They may be financially successful, but are expert at hiding their income so they can receive welfare and social services “benefits”. Gaming the system, indeed…
    Foreign-owned retail businesses run an EBT card scam in which they pay EBT recipients 50-cents cash on the dollar. When they are “caught”, they feign “language difficulties”, and are quite often given a “slap on the wrist” and told not to do it again.
    In Michigan, the social services (welfare) system allows muslims to claim up to four “wives” as dependents–one “wife” and three “relatives”.
    Native born white Americans who need help are almost always refused sorely needed "assistance", while blacks and immigrants waltz in and get all kinds of “help”.
    Most of today’s immigrants do not deserve to be here and should go back to where they came from.
    As an aside, immigrants who brag about "how good it is in the old country" and that who disparage the united States of America have a special enmity with me. I always respond as such: "If life was so good in your home country and life is so terrible here, why don't you go back where you came from?" The utter dazed and confused looks on their faces (facial expressions) speaks VOLUMES.

  30. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Roger

    Diversity, liberty or equality; choose one.

    Replies: @Roger

    If you want to refute my argument, then do so. I will gladly engage. If you do not or cannot, then post more comments like this one, which mean nothing.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Roger

    You like to talk about America as an idea, but only one ethnic group in the history of the world dreamed up the idea and fought for it.

    Feel free to browse around unz.com to learn why a diverse society must always have shelves of civil rights laws enforced by nuclear-armed bureaucrats to keep the borders open and outlaw freedom of association. I presume you already know that equal men are not free and free men are not equal.

  31. Roger says: • Website
    @George 1
    @Roger

    A first world country cannot import multiple millions of people every year with IQs a full standard deviation below the average of the importing country without destroying itself. We have been doing that for a long time but Brandon has put it on steroids.

    The "America is an idea" crowd are fools. The "New Americans" don't care and are not capable of caring one bit about our representative republic or our concepts of liberty. The new Americans are totally incapable of maintaining a modern society. I would point you toward Southern California. Outside of a few enclaves S.C. is now a foreign country. How do you suppose that happened?

    Western society with a focus on Liberty cannot be maintained by our emerging demographic. The social capitol to do so simply does not exist.

    Replies: @Roger, @Achmed E. Newman, @anarchyst

    Well, I have not been called a fool for a long time, but you must have seen something. What is it?

    As to your comment,

    “Western society with a focus on Liberty cannot be maintained by our emerging demographic. The social capitol to do so simply does not exist.”

    Tell that to those who roar out the Pledge of Allegiance joyfully, in unison, without ever considering that one of the phrases says, “…one nation under God, indivisible…” Those who believe this are caught up in a fantasy that America will always exist in the form it has always been. One nation. Indivisible. The facts on the ground refute that, though, because America is splintering and will, sooner or later, disintegrate into many different social groups, each of them trying to persuade their adherents (and outsiders, sinners all) that they have the authority of Truth to back them up.

    If Western society with a focus on liberty cannot be maintained by our emerging demographic, then I say it is time we went our separate ways and quit deluding ourselves that we are one nation. Peaceful dissolution would be the best way, but we will probably take the hard road of violent dismemberment, simply because we cannot conceive of any other idea than being the top dog and forcing everyone else to submit to the perceived order.

  32. @George 1
    @Roger

    A first world country cannot import multiple millions of people every year with IQs a full standard deviation below the average of the importing country without destroying itself. We have been doing that for a long time but Brandon has put it on steroids.

    The "America is an idea" crowd are fools. The "New Americans" don't care and are not capable of caring one bit about our representative republic or our concepts of liberty. The new Americans are totally incapable of maintaining a modern society. I would point you toward Southern California. Outside of a few enclaves S.C. is now a foreign country. How do you suppose that happened?

    Western society with a focus on Liberty cannot be maintained by our emerging demographic. The social capitol to do so simply does not exist.

    Replies: @Roger, @Achmed E. Newman, @anarchyst

    Right, George. For those unaware, Michelle Malkin has played a big part in anti-immigration-invasion activism. That is along with all the rest of her political stances. I’m pretty sure she would agree with Anti-Gnostic, your, and my take on this point.

    10 years ago, when Ron Paul was running for the GOP primary, I told him in person “if you want to win [my State], you need to talk about illegal immigration” I wish he’d taken that to heart and become a much smarter and more capable version of a Donald Trump of ’16.

    I can tell from his columns that Dr. Paul really does get this now: Of these dozens of millions of immigrants (legal and otherwise) arriving every decade, we are not getting more than a handful of future Citizenship in the Nation merit badge earners, Constitution-readers, or Ron Paul Liberty Report viewers..

    Sorry, I got completely O/T from the post. We are lucky to live in an area in which the police are more mellow in some ways. I remember this very time, April of ’20, and we went to the parks every nice day too. Even when the silly crime tape was up, people played on whatever they wanted to.

  33. In today’s America, and in many other parts of the world, the process is the punishment. Selective prosecution is a major problem in this country. BLM and Antifa types who have committed crimes are ignored while innocents who defend themselves (but are of the wrong political persuasion) are charged with crimes.
    Being charged with a crime, the indictment, the arraignment and trial are all a part of the punishment. Even if the case is dismissed, the damage, the difficult days, the threat of fines, incarceration and legal bills, and the uncertainty of what comes next are all punishments.
    Observe those who were arrested after the January 6, 2020 demonstrations—those who were purposely let in to the capitol and then arrested, days, weeks, and months after the event.
    Those who are presently incarcerated for the January 6, demonstrations are “special cases”–”political prisoners” who have been identified by their political enemies and prison staff and have been selected for “special treatment”.
    Even if their cases are dismissed, the damage has already been done. The time served, the harassment and brutality can never be “taken back”.
    This also extends to the likes of Kyle Rittenhouse, who is clearly observed on video defending his own life against rioters, who was “put through the legal wringer”–once again, the process being the punishment. Thankfully, he was acquitted by a competently-run legal system (in his case).
    The Memphis couple who were charged with “brandishing weapons” against the BLM and Antifa criminals who broke down a barrier and were trespassing on private property is but another example of selective prosecution. They were indicted on “weapons charges” for merely defending themselves.
    My third and final example of this is the “Satilla Three” who are languishing in prison for defending their lives and neighborhood against Ahmad Arbery, a career criminal who was “casing” construction sites for materials and tools that he could steal. In this case, the “powers that be” went “prosecutor shopping” when the initial prosecutor refused to indict. It took “four tries” before they found a prosecutor who would indict.
    It turns out that Arbery had “doubled back” and threatened the man with the shotgun, pulling on it causing it to fire. You see, Arbery had felt “disrespected”, and in his feral, uncivilized way had to confront the man who had “disrespected” him. Arbery could have run off in any direction, but chose to confront the man with the shotgun. This was a clear case of self-defense, having been video taped as well. The trial was a fiasco, with a weak, incompetent judge, civil-rights hustlers and Arbery family members in the courtroom threatening riots if the “correct” verdict was not rendered. Requests for a change of venue and a sequestered jury were denied. Evidence showing Arbery’s previous criminal activity in the Satilla Shores neighborhood were also suppressed. It would seem that, with all of the legal and procedural misconduct, these three men should have good grounds for a successful appeal.
    Once again, the process is the punishment…something democRATs have been using to their advantage.

  34. – will comment here in some response to comment 1. and otherwise harry huntington.
    ‘It is entirely lawful for the police to arrest someone who is trespassing in a park that has been properly closed to the public for health reasons. The first amendment right to protest is always limited by time, manner and place.’

    Sorry, false. Though I maintain the constitution is not valid contract, and which many recognized shortly after it’s scribbling, and which after skirmishes took place because people didn’t want it, the ‘bill of rights’ was attached, after which people calmed down, though should not have. That said, those who want to live by it, anyone claiming to be ‘government’ or ‘state’ by claim of constitutions, have violated and continue to violate the bill of rights by scribbling any law that in any way controverts any of the bill of rights, therefore voiding their claimed positions. If the constitution is a contract, that is fact, regardless people have ignored the mass of controverting laws that have been scribbled and continue to be. As to the cons who claim it’s a ‘compact’ to skirt the premise it’s a contract, it’s no difference, and nonsense.

    Point being the first amendment does not say freedom of speech – unless we say otherwise cuz health bs, it states freedom of speech. Further there is the fourteenth amendment right to be secure in our persons, and to extent ‘taxes’ are extorted by ‘govermt’ or ‘state’ to make ‘parks’ – they are public property. Not ‘state’ property, public property, meaning every person. As for the cons claiming ‘health’ nonsense, there is no such thing as ‘virus’. Sickness is gut biotic imbalance, or if you ate poison, and even if there were, no one has the right to dictate whether we ‘go outside’ or not. What the dictators did the last two years is far, far beyond wrong. And people are snapping out of it, though we need to help each other further snap. Share our strength.

    If we want rights have to enforce them, not by ‘courts’ but by other means. I don’t have to describe or list, just give thought to sharing info. The person in the article suing though maybe well intended won’t change the situation through courts, supposed courts are part of the problem. Sharing info around us and making other effort is what matters. To that, the article is some reminder of tyranny, so appreciate that, and otherwise it’s important to make effort on the future, where we live.
    .

  35. @Roger
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    If you want to refute my argument, then do so. I will gladly engage. If you do not or cannot, then post more comments like this one, which mean nothing.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    You like to talk about America as an idea, but only one ethnic group in the history of the world dreamed up the idea and fought for it.

    Feel free to browse around unz.com to learn why a diverse society must always have shelves of civil rights laws enforced by nuclear-armed bureaucrats to keep the borders open and outlaw freedom of association. I presume you already know that equal men are not free and free men are not equal.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Thanks: Angharad
  36. @Roger
    @Angharad

    This has nothing to do with the color of one's skin nor their racial or ethnic heritage. It has everything to do with understanding that you cannot be free from oppressive government if you swear an oath of fealty to that government.

    George Washington, the 'father of our country', was white, yet he waged a war against white farmers in western Pennsylvania and forced them to submit to his tyranny because they dared to believe that they were free to live their lives as they saw fit. Andrew Jackson, whose image is on the $20 bill, was white, yet he literally destroyed many of the Indian tribes of south-east America by way of the Indian Removal Act of 1830 and the Trail of Tears. Abraham Lincoln, also white, and enshrined forever as one of America's "gods", killed at least 600,000 white men and boys by prosecuting the War of Northern Aggression, a.k.a., Civil War, and by doing so centralized the power of tyranny in the federal government over the individual states.

    This is your Heirloom America, your white America, and the examples cited could be multiplied many times over.

    What does the the Pledge of Allegiance say--"...with liberty and justice for all"? Right. Of course, right, and pigs fly too.

    It is ironic that in the photo above, Sarah Brady is wearing a shirt which has one word written on it. Vote! As if voting for the "right" person, perhaps even Janice McGeachen, would guarantee her liberty. Voting, in theory, is exercising your right to choose the people who will represent you in government. In reality, it is nothing more than choosing which hand holds the club with which you are beaten.

    However, I do like the quote from Brady at the end of the article. I stand with her on that.


    “Freedom is the most important gift given to us. I would rather be handcuffed and taken away from you than to bow down to the state.”
     
    Freedom is given to us by God, not the government. It does not matter what government issues the orders. They are all predicated on one presumption: that the use of force and violence by some against others is legitimate as long as it is legal.

    If Patrick Henry, another white man with an English name from Heirloom America, were here today, he would revise his famous statement. If this is liberty, then give me death.

    Replies: @Angharad

    Yawn. Get over yourself. NO place, nor person, is perfect. Washington was an arrogant, yet very talented social climber. He was a brilliant general – but an ahole as a person. Jackson – I’d like him cloned and brought back to RULE this country. Lincoln was a (((crypto))). Too bad his co-ethnic Booth didn’t plug him before he took office.

    The cheering people were cheering for Heirloom America – and RACE is EVERYTHING.

  37. @George 1
    @Roger

    A first world country cannot import multiple millions of people every year with IQs a full standard deviation below the average of the importing country without destroying itself. We have been doing that for a long time but Brandon has put it on steroids.

    The "America is an idea" crowd are fools. The "New Americans" don't care and are not capable of caring one bit about our representative republic or our concepts of liberty. The new Americans are totally incapable of maintaining a modern society. I would point you toward Southern California. Outside of a few enclaves S.C. is now a foreign country. How do you suppose that happened?

    Western society with a focus on Liberty cannot be maintained by our emerging demographic. The social capitol to do so simply does not exist.

    Replies: @Roger, @Achmed E. Newman, @anarchyst

    There’s more.
    Yes, our “obsolete farm machinery” is a major problem, and has been for a long time, but another “elephant in the room” is many of today’s immigrants.
    There used to be a time when just about ANY immigrant who set upon the shores of America was not only grateful, but willing to shed his “old world” ways and support his adopted country.
    He might have not known the language, and found some American customs and practices “strange”, but he fully embraced the idea that he could be an AMERICAN. He not only embraced the American ideal, but made damn sure that his children fully appreciated the land in which they were born.
    Contrast that to today’s immigrant, who is only concerned about one thing–American dollars. Today’s immigrants care not about the founding principles of this country, the Constitutional principles in which our rights are endowed by our Creator, that our “rights” are not granted by government, and that the most important thing about being an American is the sense of freedom that he doesn’t want for himself or his offspring.
    Today’s immigrant brings his “old-world” customs and squabbles here, demanding that us native-born Americans kowtow to him and change OUR ways to accommodate his “old-world” ways.
    Their children are not encouraged to become Americans and fully assimilate, but are required to maintain their “old-world” customs and ways, even if they run counter to American customs and mores.
    These old-world customs and ways quite often are criminal in nature, and do nothing to endear them to native-born Americans. They just do not want to assimilate.
    Many immigrants, once here, will bring their elderly relatives here to sponge off the Social Security system, even though they have not paid a penny into the system.
    Welfare and social services scams are common. Those immigrants who run retail businesses receive special “loans” from the federal government–loans not available to native-born Americans.
    Russian immigrants are expert at running Medicare and other healthcare scams. Middle eastern types run welfare “bridge card (EBT)” scams.
    Jews are even more brazen. There are entire jewish communities that openly flout “civil-rights” and “anti-discrimination” laws with impunity. These communities will not allow anyone not of jewish persuasion to buy real-estate or attend the so-called “public schools”. You see, these communities are “jews-only”. In addition, they are massive users of the social welfare system, out of proportion of their numbers. They may be financially successful, but are expert at hiding their income so they can receive welfare and social services “benefits”. Gaming the system, indeed…
    Foreign-owned retail businesses run an EBT card scam in which they pay EBT recipients 50-cents cash on the dollar. When they are “caught”, they feign “language difficulties”, and are quite often given a “slap on the wrist” and told not to do it again.
    In Michigan, the social services (welfare) system allows muslims to claim up to four “wives” as dependents–one “wife” and three “relatives”.
    Native born white Americans who need help are almost always refused sorely needed “assistance”, while blacks and immigrants waltz in and get all kinds of “help”.
    Most of today’s immigrants do not deserve to be here and should go back to where they came from.
    As an aside, immigrants who brag about “how good it is in the old country” and that who disparage the united States of America have a special enmity with me. I always respond as such: “If life was so good in your home country and life is so terrible here, why don’t you go back where you came from?” The utter dazed and confused looks on their faces (facial expressions) speaks VOLUMES.

  38. – part correction on my post further above, when said fourteenth amendment right to be secure is actually fifth, due process, not fourteenth, however fourteenth affects fifth and other supposed amendments, and however, unfortunately most of them are bogus, the language in each is controverting, or, has been attempted controverted by bogus case law. If disagree read second amendment, two separate claims shoveled into one. The first half is for state or government, ‘regulated’ militia’, the second half having nothing to do with the first half, and individual rights -separate from ‘state’. The catch is ‘regulated’ ‘militia’. Doesn’t matter if later some court separated the two it’s hink to begin with. The language in most ‘amendments’ is controverted within the amendment itself, meaningless, or if not it’s controverted by other scribbled supposed case law, so judges can apply what law they want to whomever, or not, without solid basis people can point to.

    Second example, supposed claimed ‘exceptions’ to the first amendment are void ab initio. It does not matter what lawyers or ‘supreem’ lawyers claim. ‘shall not be infringed’ is clear. There is no condition in the amendment. While most others are controverted in the amendments themselves that one is not. The cons who claimed ‘exceptions’ *were acting outside the constitution they claim gives them power as ‘judge’ therefore *jurisdiction did not exist to ‘decide’ the exceptions or bogus case law otherwise. Therefore void.
    https://www.law.cornell.edu – search first amendment
    The cases and claims underneath, void. They claim to allow spew speech for lawyers to defame people in court, but then controvert and limit people elsewhere with fighting words nonsense or obscenity law nonsense, soon hate speech nonsense, but, used the first to legalize filth, which is not speech words.

    In other words, it appears ‘laws’ have been made to be, basically psychotic.

    Whatever, otherwise see article. Don’t mean to be off topic just caught my error and led to further clarifying.

  39. She’s a brave woman during these two years of craziness.The conservative is civilized in his protests while it’s the liberal who yells,stalks,harasses,destroys property,and commits other acts of violence and has been doing so ever since the 60’s.Nuts to them.

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