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Jared Polis, the Democratic governor of Colorado, thinks those of us who oppose scientifically dubious, constitutionally suspect and dangerously overbroad face mask mandates are “selfish bastards.”

I think Polis is a pandering pandemic control freak endangering public health, safety, and sanity.

There. Now that the name-calling is out of the way, let’s talk facts.

Contracting COVID can be fatal or debilitating for the elderly, immune-compromised and physically challenged. But there is no catastrophic public health emergency justifying sweeping government orders and ordinances that would force healthy citizens to wear masks in an increasingly oppressive climate of manufactured fear — completely untethered from pragmatic realities and risk assessments.

According to the federal government’s own COVID-19 data, 120,675 deaths in America have been tied to the virus. Tracked weekly by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control, fatalities peaked on April 18, 2020, with 16,897 succumbing to the disease. (Keep in mind that many medical whistleblowers have reported that these statistics are inflated by including “COVID”-related deaths uncorroborated by lab results and also by including patients who died with COVID infections, but not necessarily from the virus itself.) In the 12 weeks since April 18, as states have reopened and protests (or riots) of all kinds have brought tens of thousands of people in close contact, deaths have fallen precipitously.

For the week of July 11, 2020, guess how many deaths were attributed to the virus? 181.

The total number of deaths for school-age children between February-July 2020 are 9 (under 1 year of age); 7 (ages 1-4); 14 (age 5-14); and 149 (ages 15-24).

All deaths are tragic, of course. But we haven’t banned cars, bikes, swimming pools, aspirin, plastic bags or matches to prevent the tens of thousands of school-age deaths that occur each year due to unintentional accidents involving these items. We don’t mandate that all kids wear life vests at bath time because nearly 100 children drown in a tub yearly. We don’t mandate that all pet owners muzzle their dogs at all times because someone, somewhere, might be attacked upon exposure to Fido.

In a CNN interview this week, infection disease bureaucrat Dr. Anthony Fauci asserted that “I think you can trust me” and other “experts” as nationwide mask mania escalates.

Does he think we all have amnesia? This is the same joker who just four months ago told CBS News, “There’s no reason to be walking around with a mask.” His fellow experts in the federal public health-industrial complex dismissed surgical masks as inadequate protection from small airborne particles and warned that they did not form adequate seals around the face.

And remember this?

“Seriously people- STOP BUYING MASKS! They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus…”

That was our surgeon general, Dr. Jerome Adams, in February.

ORDER IT NOW

Or how about this: “There’s not much we can do, so we’re all walking around feeling rather victimized by this virus. By using a mask, even if it doesn’t do a lot, it moves the locus of control to you, away from the virus.”

That was Dr. William Schaffner, professor of medicine in the division of infectious diseases at Vanderbilt University, quoted in Time magazine in March.

Or how about this from the same article: “‘Even if experts are saying it’s really not going to make a difference, a little (part of) people’s brains is thinking, well, it’s not going to hurt. Maybe it’ll cut my risk just a little bit, so it’s worth it to wear a mask,’ she says. In that sense, wearing a mask is a ‘superstitious behavior’…”
That was Lynn Bufka, a clinical psychologist and senior director for practice, research and policy at the American Psychological Association.

Reviewing the scientific literature in her upcoming book, “The Case Against Masks” with Kent Heckenlively, former federal research scientist Dr. Judy Mikovits summarizes: “The more effective a mask is at blocking normal air flow, the greater the problem with decreased oxygen and increased carbon dioxide a person is likely to have. The less effective a mask is at blocking normal airflow, the less of a case can be made for using it. And we haven’t really dealt with what seems to be the main way that the virus spreads, through coughing and sneezing which spreads respiratory droplets.”

Watching young, healthy people jogging or hiking on isolated trails in mid-July around Colorado Springs in cloth and surgical masks drives me nuts. They’re not protecting anyone else and are likely making themselves sick. In what sane world is breathing through moist bacteria traps and cutting yourself off from vitally needed oxygen a public health virtue? Vulnerable kids especially are being lied to by panic-mongers and exploited as human shields. Meanwhile, a recent journal article in the New England Journal of Medicine acknowledges: “The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is… minimal. In many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflexive reaction to anxiety over the pandemic.”

The evidence does not support broad mask mandates. Yet, now we free-thinkers and free-breathers face jail time and witch hunts for dissenting. It’s all about politics, power, and control. “Selfish bastards” who promote superstitious costumery as science threaten us all.

Michelle Malkin’s email address is [email protected] To find out more about Michelle Malkin and read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate website at www.creators.com.

 
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  1. I must be a “selfish bastard” then. I stopped placing any trust in man , i.e. these know-it-alls as well as any government officials, and place my trust in God. I’d rather die for what I believe than live in the ways of this wicked world.

    • Replies: @Reger
  2. zimriel says:

    Michelle Malkin is wrong and demonstrably so. Car accidents do not expand past the point of contact; a virus does. And playing the “gotcha!” card against public-health officials when they were stupid does not make her smarter when she agrees with their past stupidity.

    • Disagree: R.C.
  3. Cortes says:

    Excellent article. Thank you.

    Perhaps compliance with attitude may produce results? Mask up in ridiculous manner or in plain masks bearing corporate logos? How would Gates respond to people using masks with Windows TM over the mouth area? Or any of those corporations donating to BLM?

  4. I’m sorry, Mrs. Malkin. You make a very good case based on the principles of liberty and common sense, but I gotta trust the experts on TV. Dr. Fauci is an EXPERT, Michelle, and he told me right there on the TV: “There’s no reason to be walking around with a mask.” …. wait …

    So, anyway that’s why I’m not wearing a mask, not selfishness or “muh Constitution”. That’s the last thing I heard, as I am afraid to even watch the TV now for fear of catching the Kung Flu over the cable. It’s very contagious, I was told, also back in March.

    I have not seen a single episode of Season 2 of the Kung Flu Panic-Fest. This may explain why I’ve run into trouble here and there, as documented by Peak Stupidity in Scenes from the Kung Flu re-Panic, Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4*, and Part 5,

    Seriously, keep up the great work, Michelle, from one selfish bastard to another!

    .

    * Caution: Part 4 contains graphic images of Oriental women wearing nothing BUT face masks.

    • Replies: @VinnyVette
    , @anon
  5. Remember last year when disposable straws were going to be the end of the world? I wonder what the environmental footprint of disposable masks is going to end up being.

    • Replies: @Stop Clinton and Bush
  6. The US went overboard. The EU got it right. Masks should be obligatory in enclosed spaces like public transport, airplanes, stores and office buildings. Restaurants should really just serve people outside.

    Wearing a mask jogging or walking in a park is a waste of time, and forcing people to do that just makes them non-compliant in those situations where wearing a mask would actually be helpful.

    • Replies: @Liberty Mike
  7. The whole point of what the Democrats are doing is that they push everyone’s buttons everywhere all the time to see what parts of their control Trump will resist and then they fall all over themselves acting like that is their key insight into how new norms should function. In short, the fact that Trump wouldn’t wear a mask is the very reason they are now saying that everyone has to wear a mask. There is, in fact, no way to comply with their demands because at any point where you comply they will find something else to emphasize. They are trying pathologize “whiteness”, which means they are trying to make you feel bad about your self and to create the norm that white people are uncooperative bad citizens in order to flip the narrative against you. That is what they mean by the “equity” agenda. If you study for exams, that’s racist. If you use logic to reason through a public policy proposal, that’s racist. Etc Etc. It’s a game you can’t win. So just stop playing and try your best to be humble and compliant in situations where you can see they are obviously trying to provoke you so that they can blame you for being an awful human being. That this has become a method of governing is the most odious part but I think they imagine that this is what white people have been doing to black people all along so they think they are turning the tables for justice.

  8. Realist says:

    People who claim that wearing a mask does not restrict passage of gasses to and from the lungs…are either stupid or lying.

    • Replies: @botazefa
    , @anon
  9. MacFan99 says:

    Bravo, Michelle! Dr. Fauci has admitted that he will lie to the American public to further secret agendas he has. It is therefore incumbent on all thinking Americans to ignore anything else he says.

    I’m a 68 year old fellow Colorado resident and I have three “co-morbidities” (diabetes, high blood pressure and taking mild immunosuppressants for my arthritis). I will only wear masks when forced t0, e.g., to enter and exit a restaurant.

    Other than that, I’m an adult and I can take care of myself and take such minor risks as I choose to. Gov. “Panic Prone” Polis can go suck rocks.

    I’ve also done some (very) informal polling of people I come in contact with and almost every employee who has to wear a mask all day at work hates it and agrees that they are not helpful. I go to the “People’s Republic” of Boulder a few times a week and have seen most folks walking around outside without masks. This makes me hopeful that Panic Prone Polis will not survive politically.

  10. @Peter Akuleyev

    Wrong. Masks should not be obligatory anywhere.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @botazefa
  11. @zimriel

    Show us the randomized control tests the conclusion of which prove that masks are at once (1) necessary to prevent transmission of viruses and (2) pose no health threat to wearers.

  12. My wife and I are in our 60’s in excellent health, no pre-existing conditions and no daily meds needed for either of us down here in Elvis’ Home Town….Thank you Lord👣🙏👆🙌
    We tend to avoid stores that demand we wear masks, if at all possible. We successfully invoke the Local Democratic Mayor’s “exceptions” to wearing a mask virtually 100% of the time. This did not make one of the local assistant Mgrs at Kroger very happy. When I claimed the Mayor’s exceptions per his recent Executive Order for Masks, he indicated it was a Kroger Policy. I immediately went outside to check both entrances for posting of Kroger’s Mask Policy and Mayor Shelton’s Mask Order; NO SIGNAGE AT ALL. Went back into the store, mentioned the lack of any Kroger and Mayor’s REQUIRED (Yes, he put the onus of ‘enforcement’ of the Mask Policy upon the business owner, nice😖) SIGNAGE and proceeded to shop. It was sadly obvious that this Manager, among many of the Uninformed Electorate, NEVER actually read Any of these EO’s, even when they are only 2 pages long😲. More Social Media Misinformation, who woulda guessed😲😜😤😖😠
    After 5 months of this Total Campaign of Misinformation by the ‘Experts’ and the Anti-Trump media, we aren’t taking it anymore. As Retirees, we are Blessed to be able to go about our Daily routine, with little to no impact to us, financially.
    We spread the word via Email/Facebook to others about the CHRONIC AND ENDLESS articles of MISINFORMATION, even in Ol’ Miss.
    November can now come soon enough…..vote the IDIOTS out of office OR quit whining about yer Local, County, State and Federal rules/regulations being signed into law, because Y’ALL are too busy to be involved/stay informed!

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  13. Sparkon says:

    Reviewing the scientific literature in her upcoming book, “The Case Against Masks” with Kent Heckenlively, former federal research scientist Dr. Judy Mikovits summarizes: “The more effective a mask is at blocking normal air flow, the greater the problem with decreased oxygen and increased carbon dioxide a person is likely to have. The less effective a mask is at blocking normal airflow, the less of a case can be made for using it. And we haven’t really dealt with what seems to be the main way that the virus spreads, through coughing and sneezing which spreads respiratory droplets.”

    That’s pretty much nonsense from top to bottom.

    Tests by researchers at the Univ. of Illinois show that a double layer of cotton filtered out 98% of droplets containing marker particles the same size as SARS-CoV-2 ( ~100 nm).

    First, most common household fabrics, such as T-shirt material, have 40% or higher droplet blocking when used as a single layer. In two layers, to our surprise, T-shirt fabric had a 98% droplet blocking efficiency – exceeding that of the medical mask, while maintaining better breathability.

    Please see my previous comment with links to this study by the U of I, and also to another study by Florida Atlantic Univ. showing that virtually any mask filters particles and restricts their range. Once again, cotton came out on top.

    Cotton and many other fabrics are hydrophilic while most medical masks are hydrophobic. What this means is cotton masks are very good at ensnaring droplets while medical masks are not.

    It is not at all difficult to breathe through two layers of cotton. You wrote:

    Watching young, healthy people jogging or hiking on isolated trails in mid-July around Colorado Springs in cloth and surgical masks drives me nuts.

    When you recover, would you mind posting some news accounts from Colorado Springs, or anywhere else, about people falling over, or suffering a medical emergency, on isolated trails, or anywhere else, from excess carbon dioxide? I ask because this study from Vanderbilt states:

    Prolonged use of any face mask, including the N95 respirator, has not been shown to cause carbon dioxide toxicity or lack of adequate oxygen in healthy people. For some persons with severe chronic lung disease, wearing a mask may make breathing more difficult, but not because of CO2 retention.

    Recall, there are health care workers who routinely wear masks for prolonged periods as part of usual care (such as when performing surgery) and adverse effects from this practice have not been reported.

    Cloth masks reduce the number of microorganisms that someone releases into the air. So, the more people wear masks in an area, the fewer potential viral droplets go into the space, and the less risk that someone will be exposed to the virus.

    https://www.vumc.org/coronavirus/latest-news-you-asked-we-answered/does-prolonged-wearing-facemask-cause-harm

    [my bold]

    Finally, you’d think that health authorities are asking us to crawl through broken glass with barbed wire wrapped around our hands and knees, for all the fuss and histrionics over the simple expediency of mask wearing, which has been done in the Orient for a long time already, not only as a prophylaxis against disease, but also to mitigate allergies.

    • Replies: @botazefa
    , @FPD72
    , @AlexD
  14. botazefa says:
    @Realist

    There’s only one study I’ve seen, and it deals with n95 masks which form a reservoir between the mask and face. In theory, this could trap a small portion of exhaled gasses, cause them to mix, resulting in imperfect gas transfer. Some people in the study reported getting headaches wearing n95s. The researches attributed that to possible low oxygen. I don’t recall they were able to substantiate their claim. Mask tightness could also cause headaches, they mentioned.

    The paper and cloth masks that are common do not create a reservoir. Presumably they can get wet, causing more back pressure and perhaps some difficulty exhaling as a result. But is anyone reporting this? Do we see instances of people passing out from hypoxia or hypercapnia? I’ve not heard of any such cases.

    It seems highly unlikely that the non-n95 masks restricts gas exchange. I’ve never heard of such a thing, and I’m a retired respiratory therapist.

    What’s causing you to believe otherwise?

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Quartermaster
  15. botazefa says:
    @Liberty Mike

    Masks should be obligatory for people with infectious respiratory diseases who may come into contact with other people.

    Beyond that, masks are good when mowing the lawn and so forth.

    The problem with the CDC new guidelines on masks is that they treat everyone as infectious and infantalize and demean us in the process.

    • Replies: @VinnyVette
  16. botazefa says:
    @Sparkon

    Why do healthy people need to wear masks?

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  17. Agree 100% Colorado is averaging single digit deaths per week, and we haven’t had a day in which we had double digit deaths since Jun 12 (I don’t give a damn about “case” numbers)! This really getting ridiculous. Polis just wants his power and his ego stroked.

  18. My mind is truelly blown away on the sheer numbers of people buying into the mask wearing. I’m in western NYS. my guess is around 90% of the people I see when I walk into a store or any public place wearing them. I’m usually the only or occasionally there is one other person not wearing a mask. I thought surely with the summer heat and humidity, the fact the lying Fauci himself said the virus doesn’t survive in the heat and humidity, ppl would say screw this and stop wearing them if for no other reason than the sheer discomfort. But no! Ppl standing alone on street corners with no one anywhere near them, in open farmers markets, walking down the street in 90 degree heat with the mask on! I thought with all the info out there that masks do not protect against virus’s, the discomfort, and the utter stupidity of it all the madness would stop! I gave humanity far too much credit!

  19. @Achmed E. Newman

    Dr Fauci is an “expert?” Lmfao! Your “expert” first said masks were useless! Bought into Neil Ferguson’s bogus computer models, told us the virus would go dormant in the heat and humidity of summer, yet later decided masks were a necessity! Seems your expert cannot make up his expert mind! You make some excellent comments elsewhere on UR, but you have completely dropped the ball on this.

  20. Dr Fauci is an “expert?” Lmfao! Your “expert” first said masks were useless! Bought into Neil Ferguson’s bogus computer models, told us the virus would go dormant in the heat and humidity of summer, yet later decided masks were a necessity! Seems your expert cannot make up his expert mind! You make some excellent comments elsewhere on UR, but you have dropped the ball on this one!

  21. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:

    The responses to Polis’ mask mandate on Twitter are absolutely nauseating. It’s almost hard to believe how thick herd mentality has become in Colorado — but I shouldn’t be surprised from what I’ve witnessed over the last couple of years while spending time in the state. Whatever happened to the rough and hardened outlaws that were abundant in Colorado in towns such as Leadville just a 100 years ago? The populace of the state has become the epitome of a”Karen”. Meanwhile in Serbia, tens of thousands of ultranationalists protested against a new lock-down and had it quickly reversed. Americans have become overwhelmingly soft.

    Governor Jared Polis

    “Announcing a statewide mask requirement for public indoor spaces (like stores & businesses) unless someone has a medical condition or disability that prevents them from wearing a mask”

    https://mobile.twitter.com/GovofCO/status/1283836747692994560

  22. Anon[328] • Disclaimer says:

    Cotton masks stop aerosolized viruses the same way cotton underwear stops aerosolized farts. They are dunce caps for those who don’t know the difference between microns and nanometers.

  23. Realist says:
    @botazefa

    It seems highly unlikely that the non-n95 masks restricts gas exchange. I’ve never heard of such a thing, and I’m a retired respiratory therapist.

    What’s causing you to believe otherwise?

    You have got to be kidding. Put on a mask and go to a mirror. Now breathe in…notice the mask is drawn in toward your mouth. Now breathe out…notice the mask is pushed away from your mouth.

    What the hell do you think causes that???

    You must have been hung over when your teacher talked about respiratory restriction.

  24. Hans says:

    Very good one from Catherine Austin Fitts & Dr. Tenpenny – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C_Id35I23A

  25. anon[185] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Part 4 contains graphic images

    Finally, an uplifting use for face masks. On a downbeat note, even in the conservative Boise, Idaho region, government Bolsheviks are now mandating face masks in public places.

    Like you, I prefer to see face masks in pubic places.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  26. @zimriel

    The original statements were based on rigorous science. It wasn’t until certain people saw the opportunity for control that the mask idiocy started to become widespread.

    Here is one article I saw this morning.

    https://libertysentinel.org/scientist-exposes-face-mask-pseudo-science?utm_source=whatfinger

    The article has a link to another article that has numerous links showing that masks are simply a control boondoggle. What is being pushed now is junk science. If memory serves, it has a link to an article that debunks the junk science UC Davis study in favor of masks.

  27. @botazefa

    Just the facts, Mr. Therapist. The problem is that it does create dead space because it takes energy to push the exhaled air through the mask. When the wearer stop exhaling, the air left will inhaled. A number of people, wearing the masks you think to be fine, have passed from hypoxia. It’s worse with HN-95 masks. Leave off the fact that one needs to ensure than a N-95 mask will fit for it to have any chance at being effective.

    A more complete list of the risks wearing masks routinely is as follows:

    1) Reduced blood-oxygen levels leading to reduced mental clarity, lethargy, and reduced immunities. This condition, known as “hypoxia,” can cause persons to lose focus and make bad decisions which can be dangerous to others. People are already falling asleep and fainting when doing routine tasks while wearing masks. The result could range from physical injury to self or others due to inattentiveness all the way to a social tragedy such as a rushed inaccurate verdict rendered by an oxygen-deprived masked jury that was unable to fully focus on and comprehend evidence and arguments in a case.  The likelihood of viral infections increases with hypoxia because the body’s natural defenses are degraded.
    2) Carbon-dioxide toxicity from reduced ability of body to expel carbon dioxide (a waste product from all cellular activity).
    3) Moisture retention in lungs due to the mask’s retention of water vapor in the lungs. Moisture retention in lungs is a leading factor associated with pneumonia, bronchitis, viral and bacterial infections, asthma, and other respiratory ailments. Fluid build-up in the lungs can be very hard to treat and can result in death in serious cases of pneumonia and other ailments. If the lungs cannot take in dry air and expel humid air, then serious congestion may develop in the lungs.
    4) Increased facial touching resulting in viral / bacterial spread. Persons who wear masks are five times more likely to touch their faces continually throughout the day. They continue to adjust the mask with their hands and touch their faces in the process.  It is widely known that repeatedly touching the face and touching other surfaces is a major cause of viral and bacterial spread. This increased spread of infection can go from either the mask wearer to others or from others to the wearer. Even if a person wears gloves and then touches his face and other surfaces, the result is the same.
    5) More effort to breathe means additional respiratory distress especially with individuals who are tired, elderly, sick, or immunity compromised. Most legitimate medical efforts aimed at reducing respiratory ailments seek to improve the individual’s ability to breathe, not block it, impede it, or make it more labored.

    An article that deals with the foolishness of routine mask wearing can be found here:

    https://libertysentinel.org/scientist-exposes-face-mask-pseudo-science?utm_source=whatfinger

    There is another article in pdf form linked in that article which has a set of links to many other articles debunking the routine wearing of masks. IIRC, there is an article linked that debunks the UC Davis “study” that gets thrown up repeated to people that call BS on mask wearing.

    All the articles in favor of routine wearing of masks are junk science.

  28. @VinnyVette

    RTHSC, as they say, my friend, Vinny.

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    … oh, that’s Read The Whole Sarcastic Comment.

    … and one more thing. You will probably like the humor in the links I gave, once you get this comment ;-} If not that, come to part 4 for the Oriental mask-bikini girl. Not trying to push that stuff, but just saying … my question was: What the hell are strippers, excuse me, exotic dancers, supposed to do? I’ve not heard a word out of esteemed expert Dr. Fauci on that subject. Just asking for a friend, of course …

    • Replies: @VinnyVette
  29. anarchyst says:

    Wait a few months. You will see an uptick in respiratory problems among those who choose to wear masks. MASKS DON’T WORK.
    I have been using the “medical exemption” excuse not to wear a mask. It has worked so far.
    If I am “forced” to wear a mask it will be a Halloween mask, since the type of mask is not defined.
    I have a “Guy Fawkes” mask from the movie “V For Vendetta” that will be perfect for the role.
    Imagine thousands of people wearing Halloween masks with the “authorities” looking on…
    I encourage as many people as possible NOT to wear masks. If required to, get and wear a Halloween mask.

    • Replies: @gsjackson
  30. Scooter says:
    @zimriel

    @Zimriel:

    Here are a few very simple facts:

    1. the diameter of the virus is 0.125 microns.
    2. the pore size of best-available N95 masks is 0.3 microns.

    If you missed the math exercise, I’ll spell it out for you:

    As far as the virus is concerned, that’s like putting up chain link fence to stop insects.

    And that’s with the best-available N95 masks, which you probably aren’t wearing every day because they are both extremely uncomfortable and hard to get enough oxygen through so you’re almost certainly taking that mask off to increase air flow … and surprise now you’re –supposedly– spreading Covid … which is a vanishingly small danger to anyone under 85 or who doesn’t already have a seriously compromised immune system.

    And if you’re using one of those “fashionable” cloth masks that sheeple everywhere are sporting, that’s even more stupid because not only do they not seal your face their pore sizes are significantly larger than N95 masks.

    You and every other “Karen” have not only been fear-conned, you’re putting the rest of us at risk too because of your gullibility and frantic need to virtue signal.

  31. Sulu says:

    All of this mask business is poor Kabuki Theatre designed to force the sheep to get in line for the slaughter. I’m not a doctor but Covid-19 seems little more than a variant of the flu.

    I think all this was a Hail Mary effort designed to destroy the economy, enrich the already super wealthy and get Trump out of office all in one fell swoop. It has already done 2 out of three. But I suspect we are going to have Trump for 4 more years.

    Sulu

  32. Longplay says:

    Sadly, it’s not just the crazed governments that are mandating masks, but corporate retailers, too.

    • Agree: VinnyVette
  33. Oh boy, now I’m a “selfish bastard” according to the governor…. Name calling of citizens? Well, there have been many disturbing actions by our elected officials but, since moving to CO last Aug. ‘ 19 I see why shortly after arriving a campaign or movement to Recall Polis was afoot. Can that be revisited? I will not stoop to his game of name calling but if I did it would not be kind about his actions or choices etc.
    Michelle, I have followed you for several years, I admire and appreciate your commitment and passion for our country and citizens.
    I agree with you Michelle and read another informative article earlier-
    A scientific look at the mask fallacy – and why were told to wear them
    By – Daniel Bobinski
    Please keep up the fight, I’m starting to get vocal within my constitutional rights here in Springs too.

  34. Sparkon says:
    @botazefa

    Why do healthy people need to wear masks?

    Why wouldn’t they? Don’t healthy people get sick? Are doctors and nurses healthy people? Do asymptomatic, apparently healthy people carry and spread this virus? Do some sick people infected with this coronavirus nevertheless go out in public or into public places with no thought for others? Is it possible this disease may have long term health effects on vital organs that may not emerge until later? Could it be there’s still a lot we don’t know about SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19 after just several months experience? Could it mutate into a more deadly form, a la the Spanish Flu? Do you think if everyone started wearing masks, we might crush this thing by the end of summer?

    Most healthy people have a commitment to fitness and conditioning, and are likely to take that extra, even inconvenient step to safeguard their health. People who abuse their bodies, and may not be in good shape, won’t have the same motivation, nor will slackers, sociopaths, scofflaws, and criminals.

    I think we should have taken the bull by the horns back when this pandemic first emerged, masked up, spaced out, and kept on trucking. That would have required tight enforcement of mask-wearing, and social distancing, plus face shields for many, but it would not have meant shutting everything down.

    During the 1918 Spanish Flu Pandemic, there was a lot of back and forth on the mask issue. An Anti-Mask League formed in San Francisco. The Red Cross put it in sharp words:

    “the man or woman or child who will not wear a mask now is a dangerous slacker.”

    Yet, despite all that, the Spanish Flu eventually died down. The toll was terrible, especially the second wave in October 1918, but after the third wave, the bug petered out in 1919. The masks came off, life began its return to normal, and soon, the Twenties were ready to roar.

    So stay calm. Stay well. This too will pass.

    • Replies: @botazefa
    , @ALouise
  35. Alvin says:

    Shiksa Malkin conveniently leaves out that Polis is a homosexual jew.

    • Replies: @Anon
  36. anon[191] • Disclaimer says:
    @Realist

    I normally wear two heavy cotton masks on my derriere but when I pass flatus it goes right through like it weren’t even there. If the said bean flatus gas were an infectious agent, everyone within 100 feet would be dead. From this I come to the logical conclusion that one two three masks, whether on your derriere or face aren’t gonna do much of any good.

  37. Reger says:
    @Voice of reason

    It is a bit much asking God to protect the stupid. He does expect some degree of independence.

  38. Is there any empirical evidence that masks work?

    Is there any empirical evidence that masks don’t work?

    You decide:

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  39. botazefa says:
    @Sparkon

    So stay calm. Stay well. This too will pass.

    I don’t know what gives you the idea I’m in any way worries about wuflu. I’m not. I’m worried about yhe mass hysteria and the mythology that mask wearing by healthy people makes a difference.

    If masks are so effective why are we having ‘outbreaks’ in Texas, where masks are mandatory?

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  40. @botazefa

    “Beyond that, masks are good when mowing the lawn and so forth.”

    Thanks for the laugh!

  41. @Achmed E. Newman

    I did indeed miss the sarcasm my bad brother! You’re question on the strippers is a good one. Next victim of discrimination group maybe? Strippers er… Exotic dancers are people too! Lol

  42. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alvin

    …Polis is a homosexual jew.

    And for this very reason is why I won’t abide by any of his mandates. As an Eastern Orthodox Christian and a Traditionalist in the metaphysical sense, I see him as a degenerate and less than human. The words spoken out of Polis’ mouth mean nothing to me. I only respect the opinions of God-fearing men of good virtue who are ardent supporters of nationalism and traditionalism; not globalism and modernism like Polis.

  43. rashomoan says:
    @zimriel

    More and more masks I see recently have a valve that does not filter air leaving the interior of the mask but simply lets it out through a baffle, hence providing even less protection to those other than the wearer – which to my understanding is the now-accepted reason for wearing a mask – to protect others…

  44. Awash says:

    The Japanese wear them. They are doing fine.

    • Replies: @Sya Beerens
  45. Hans says:

    Is this the 3 stage Covid plan? – http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=210538

    Looks about right. Grim.

  46. openloop says:

    This disease is really serious. Every single nurse, paramedic and doctor I know is really emphatic about that. Let’s stop calling names. It hurts us as a nation. Also let’s remember that in addition to the illness and deaths, there is an freight train of real economic disaster bearing down on us. We are faced with the prospect of having the virus over-run our hospital capacity and also with government rules pushing us into a financial hole that could take a decade to recover from. Let’s figure out how to safely work and do the things we need to do to keep the economy running. Masks alone aren’t going to make you safe, but used sensibly together with other measures can help. Every business that hosts person to person interaction needs to figure out how to minimize the chance of virus transmission during those encounters. I personally don’t have faith that the government can solve this for us. We need to step up and get it done ourselves.

    • Agree: Corvinus
    • Replies: @Liberty Mike
  47. Sparkon says:
    @botazefa

    I don’t know what gives you the idea I’m in any way worries about wuflu. I’m not.

    I don’t know what gave you the idea that my comment was solely for you. The idea I have is that even if you didn’t read, understand, or profit by my comment, others may have.

    If masks are so effective why are we having ‘outbreaks’ in Texas, where masks are mandatory?

    Gov. Abbot did not order mask-wearing until July 2, 2020, and the mandate had opt-out loopholes for individual counties. According an article in the Texas Tribune, by July 9, almost 80 counties in Texas had opted out of Abbot’s mask order, and other counties were refusing to enforce it.

    Apparent wide-spread non-compliance with Abbot’s mask mandate seems to go hand-in-hand with the upsurge of COVID-19 cases deep in the heart (and lungs) of Texas.

    Sure, after they’ve put on their funny boots and funny hats, the cowboys in Texas just can’t be bothered putting on a funny mask. Even though Gov. Abbot ordered mask wearing in Texas, the cowboys and cowgirls down there aren’t complying, adding a new chapter to the Texas tradition of unmasked outlaws.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  48. @openloop

    Your comment exemplifies the solution in search of a problem mentality.

    It is not a serious problem.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Troll: Corvinus
  49. ALouise says:
    @Sparkon

    There are no real-world data showing asymptomatic spread. There are theoreticals and hypotheticals. And there is the occasional truth-telling medical organization that acknowledges that asymptomatic people probably don’t have enough virus to shed.

    I can run 50 miles in a day, climbing a mile in the process. If I have CoVid, it sure ain’t slowing me down. The chances that I have enough virus to spread to be dangerous, but not enough to make me ill? @@

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  50. gsjackson says:
    @VinnyVette

    Vinny, Vinny, the sarcasm couldn’t be any more obvious.

  51. gsjackson says:
    @anarchyst

    Alternatively you could get a magic marker and reclaim a little bit of your lost First Amendment right to free expression on this issue by writing on the masks “Sheople,” “Hoax Virus,” “Scamdemic,” etc.

    I’m serious about this being, among other things, a First Amendment issue. The courts have ruled that symbolic expression such as burning the American flag and wearing black arm bands to school are protected speech, despite offending a substantial majority of the population. How is the decision not to wear a mask any different? As it stands, the state is not just preventing you from symbolicly expressing your view on the most prominent political issue of the day, it is requiring you to express the very opposite of what you believe.

    • Replies: @Cowtown Rebel
  52. gsjackson says:

    Just to add to my comment above on potential legal remedies, I believe mandating masks is also a violation of the constitutional right to privacy, which has traveled quite some distance over the past 55 years. The SCOTUS decisions over that time period usually talk about protecting a zone of behavior that is intimate and personal. What is more personal and intimate than your health, and there are plenty of good reasons, most of them set out in this thread, for thinking that impaired breathing is bad for your health?

    If your employer isn’t part of government and constitutional remedies aren’t available against them, you can ask for an OSHA review. If I understand the regs correctly, employers have an affirmative obligation to ensure that the air breathed by employees has at least 19.5 percent oxygen. You may have seen the video where the guy measures the oxygen level of the air before putting on the mask and it is 20.5 percent. Almost immediately after putting on the mask it drops to 17.5 percent.

    Make yourself an absolute nuisance on this issue whenever you can. The courts blow with the political winds, and most right now will probably side with the tyrants. But maybe the scum will get tired of paying lawyers to defend law suits after a while.

    • Agree: anarchyst
  53. I can’t believe how many Unzers want people to die!

    [MORE]

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  54. Sparkon says:
    @ALouise

    There are no real-world data showing asymptomatic spread…

    …asymptomatic people probably don’t have enough virus to shed.

    You must not have looked very hard.

    Comparison of Transmissibility of Coronavirus Between Symptomatic and Asymptomatic Patients: Reanalysis of the Ningbo COVID-19 Data

    Conclusions: Through a more in-depth and comprehensive statistical analysis of the Ningbo data, we concluded that there is no difference in the transmission rates of coronavirus between symptomatic and asymptomatic patients.

    https://publichealth.jmir.org/2020/2/e19464/

    A recent mass testing campaign in San Francisco found that 53 percent of infected patients were asymptomatic when first tested and 42 percent stayed asymptomatic over the next two weeks.

    Another recent paper compared the evidence from 16 studies and estimated the overall rate of asymptomatic infection to be 40 – 45 percent. This is in line with the San Francisco finding, but the studies sampled were of various quality and size and likely include some pre-symptomatic cases.

    https://www.sciencealert.com/can-people-spread-the-coronavirus-if-they-don-t-have-symptom

    In any case, would you be able to distinguish between a healthy person, a pre-symptomatic person, an asymptomatic person, and a person with just mild symptoms? Can you be sure even that all infected, symptomatic people would stay home and self-quarantine?

    Most transmission of the coronavirus is coming from people who are asymptomatic and never develop any signs of the virus

    — Admiral Brett Giroir, the assistant secretary for the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.

    “When you measure the level of virus in the nasal pharynx of asymptomatic people, compared to people who are symptomatic, there doesn’t seem to be any difference, which means there’s as much virus in the nose of a person who’s asymptomatic as there is in a symptomatic person,”

    — Dr. Anthony Fauci

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/17/top-hhs-official-says-most-of-the-coronavirus-transmission-is-from-asymptomatic-people.html

    [my bold]

    Better safe than sorry. Even a little protection and proactive self-defense is much better than none. The fear of wearing a mask, and obstinate refusal to do so, increasingly seems to me like some kind of psychological disorder. YVMV.

  55. Mask or No Mask?
    Simple Healthcare Mandate or a Mass Mind Manipulation?

    What Would Dr. House Do?

    [MORE]

    Last week it seemed that the City of Colorado Springs was falling into the same “perception trap” about this Pandemic that it was the “end of the world” apocalyptic moment and that EVERYTHING has to change and we need a “new normal”. They wanted to put in place a Mandatory Mask Ordinance and held a couple of Council Sessions to discuss it and came to the realization that they did not have the legal right to do it, they did not have the health stats to support it, (from the El Paso County Health Department) and they decided to “Punt” on it for two weeks to the 27th/28th council sessions.

    However now that our CO GOV “Princess Polis” has put in place his ill-advised and Tyrannically-Devised Executive Order for a Mandatory Mask Order statewide… the City Council is now “off the hook”.

    This is all just Democratically-Led ed and Main Stream Media supported “PanicPorn”. It’s been proven that the initial statistical modeling that has been to project the size and scale of this pandemic has been flawed from the start. At the WHO, at the CDC, and the NIH, etc.

    The COVID-19 Testing numbers are inflated, false, and fraudulent, and are being exposed daily across the country now… because people are looking closer at the numbers. We should not be basing major healthcare and economic decisions on such a number anyways…. We should be counting ACTUAL HOSPITALIZATIONS OF PEOPLE WITH THE COVID-19 Lung Disease and ACTUAL DEATHS DUE TO COVID-19.

    For the last 30 days (From June 12th to July 12) the ACTUAL Number of Virus cases in Colorado vs the number of Deaths is 8,312 Cases vs 95 Deaths. This is 1.14% of the population. This is in line with most flu and influenza cycles annually:

    1. Approximately 9% of the world’s population is affected annually with the flu, with up to 1 billion infections, 3 to 5 million severe cases, and 300,000 to 500,000 deaths each year.

    2. CDC estimates that influenza was associated with more than 35.5 million illnesses, more than 16.5 million medical visits, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths during the 2018–2019 influenza season. So we are dealing with a flu virus here folds… not a new Frankenstein Godzilla threat…

    3. This is the 19th corona virus we have had to “deal with” on a global basis. It is a flu-like virus that has some unique “characteristics” about how it is spread, true… but the fact is that 98% of the population are able to get over it proves that is is just that a flu virus.

    Also who ever wrote the proposed Mandatory Mask Ordinance for Colorado Springs saying that this is a “Novel Corona virus” is just spewing Liberal Talking Points. This is not “Novel” this is the SARSCoV2 virus. It’s not COVID-19. COVID-19 is the Lung Disease you get when you let the virus spread throughout your body and get’s into your lungs, because you did not do anything about it during the first 5-10 day attack phase of the virus.

    That’s why we should NOT be sheltering in place and “waiting” to see the doctor because the longer you wait to treat this virus the worse it is for you and you end up in the hospital and get on a ventilator, and then your chances of beating this virus drops significantly.

    We already have identified and have seen proven treatments for this virus that the Infectious Disease crowd and the Main Stream media does not want to see the light of day, (like the ZenlenkoProtocol of Hydroxychlorochine and Azirymycin and Zinc), but I am not here to talk about his “highly controversial” topic… (It should not be, but maybe we can set aside another time for a deeper discussion of this 70-year old anti-malaria treatment that kills the SARSCoV2 within a week with a $20, 20-Tablet, 5-Day treatment protocol.

    Today we are talking about Mandating Masks:

    I’m not against wearing masks. WHERE IT MAKES SENSE! As long as the correct mask is used in the correct context.

    I took a friend of mine to the hospital last week for knee surgery, and they asked me to wear a mask and be temperature checked. Not a problem. This is a HEALTHCARE Facility where bacteria and virus rein supreme… I did notice that I felt uncomfortable wearing it because I had an asthmatic problem when I was younger and I noticed a definite shortness of breath when wearing the mask. Yes I am one of those people who object to wearing it for my health reasons, but I “stuck it out” in the healthcare environment for my friend.

    However, when I want to sit down with a friend at a Panera for lunch… I don’t need a mask. He is not sick, I am not sick. When I ride my bike or take a walk, I don’t need a mask I’m outside. When I shop at the store and all the employees have opted to wear a mask they are using it to protect themselves from a large number of people coming into the store. This is called “Asymmetric” Protection and works fine… Adding “Symmetric Protection”, (everyone wearing masks) adds nothing else to this context at all.

    Let’s talk about what masks do and not do…

    Note: I am not a healthcare professional… I am presenting information form known professionals and RN’s in the business:

    There are 3 Types of Masks:

    • N95 masks and masks with exhale ports
    • surgical masks
    • filter or cloth masks

    If you’re working with fumes and aerosol chemicals and you give your employees the wrong masks and they get sick, you can be sued.

    • N95 masks: are designed for CONTAMINATED environments. That means when you exhale through N95 the design is that you are exhaling into contamination. The exhale from N95 masks are vented to breath straight out without filtration. They don’t filter the air on the way out. They don’t need to.

    Conclusion: if you’re in Target and the guy who is spreading the SARSCov2 Virus has a N95 mask, his expelled breath is unfiltered and being exhaled into Target (because it was designed for already contaminated environments, it’s not filtering your air on the way out).

    • Surgical Mask: these masks were designed and approved for STERILE environments. The amount of particles and contaminants in the outside and indoor environments where people are CLOGGING these masks very, VERY quickly. The moisture from your breath combined with the clogged mask will render it “useless” IF you come in contact with someone who is spreading the SARSCoV2 virus and your mask traps it, YOU become a walking virus dispenser. Every time you put your mask on you are breathing the germs from EVERYWHERE you went. They should be changed or thrown out every “20-30 minutes in a non sterile environment.”

    • Cloth masks: I can’t even believe I’m having to explain this but hopefully you all know CLOTH masks do not filter anything. You mean the American flag one your aunt made? Yes. The one with sunflowers that looks so cute? Yes. The bandanna, the cut up t-shirt, the scarf ALL of them offer NO FILTERING whatsoever. As you exhale, you are ridding your lungs of contaminants and carbon dioxide. Cloth masks trap this carbon dioxide the best. It actually risks your health, rather than protect it. The moisture caught in these masks can become mildew ridden over night. Dry coughing, enhanced allergies, sore throat are all symptoms of a micro-mold in your mask.

    Summary:

    So, let’s not go “overboard” with a Mask Mandate, It’s not needed despite the Aggressive threats from our Governor Telling us to “Wear a Dam Mask”. How about us all “Reading the Dam Research” and understanding what works and does not work in spreading a simple flu virus and respect individual health rights of individuals. We are all quite experienced already in this process as we have been doing it for hundreds of years…

    Also, good luck in enforcing this mandate. There are no laws you can use to fine and jail people, and the ADA has a lot to say about what you can and can’t do when it comes to violating someones healthcare rights.

    So in summary… Let’s all pushback on these Mandatory Mask Ordinances and encourage your elected officials to Please Shut Down and Vote NO on all Mandatory Mask Mandate . It’s not needed.

    We are all adults and don’t need permission slips from our doctors to Just Say “No Masks | No Vax | No “Woke” |No More.

  56. FPD72 says:
    @Sparkon

    Here are the OSHA medical requirements for employees wearing N95 masks. Notice the possible need for a pulmonary fitness test:

    Medical Clearance

    Whenever respirators of any kind are required, medical clearance for a person to wear the respirator must be obtained beforehand. N95s are no exception.
    Obtaining this clearance may require a medical exam, but generally, review of the OSHA questionnaire by a healthcare professional is all that is required.
    OSHA provides the questionnaire to be used in Appendix C to the Respiratory Protection Standard.
    The employer provides a copy of the questionnaire for the employee to fill out, but the completed questionnaire is NOT shared with the employer. It is a confidential document. It is shared only with the healthcare professional who will review it and decide whether or not an actual physical exam is necessary.
    The employer is informed by the healthcare professional simply as to whether or not the individual is cleared to wear an N95 based upon the information provided in the questionnaire.
    Medical clearance is not an annual requirement. It is obtained before a person is permitted to wear the required N95 respirator and is not repeated unless there is some change that requires it.

    Question: how many members of the general public are getting medical clearance before wearing N95 masks?

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  57. Sparkon says:
    @FPD72

    Just to be crystal clear, I have never recommended, or even suggested, that the general public acquire or wear N95 masks.

    Please read my comment #13 above, which includes this statement from the Vanderbilt Univ. Medical Center:

    Prolonged use of any face mask, including the N95 respirator, has not been shown to cause carbon dioxide toxicity or lack of adequate oxygen in healthy people.

  58. @gsjackson

    When this nonsense first began, I was walking around with aquatic googles and a snorkel with a toilet paper roll attached marked “Corona Filter.” I’ve worn masks with signs that said “Identity Theft” and “My Life Doesn’t Matter” on them. I also stood in line at the grocery store singing “When Your Smiling” and “Put On A Smile And Cheer Up” while wearing a T-Shirt that said “Nobody Knows I’m Elvis” and a Mask that said, “The Masked Singer.” Most recently, I went shopping wearing an authentic and complete Ninja outfit. Needless to say, I’ve been looking for ways to make a mockery of the whole situation from the beginning and only a lack of funding prevents me from going even further into fits of lunacy.

  59. Corvinus says:

    “But there is no catastrophic public health emergency justifying sweeping government orders and ordinances that would force healthy citizens to wear masks in an increasingly oppressive climate of manufactured fear — completely untethered from pragmatic realities and risk assessments.”

    Actually, there is.

    https://news.yahoo.com/white-house-wants-cut-35-125000676.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/19/us/politics/republicans-contradict-trump-coronavirus.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/18/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-response-failure-leadership.html

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/18/health/long-term-effects-young-people-covid-wellness/index.html?utm_content=2020-07-18T23%3A00%3A13&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twCNN&utm_term=link

    https://www.insider.com/third-of-florida-children-tested-for-covid-19-tested-positive-2020-7

  60. Corvinus says:
    @RoatanBill

    What the reporter** does NOT offer in the first study (2019) are its limitations, as acknowledged by the authors.

    This study has several limitations. First, the criteria for viral polymerase chain reaction testing may have missed participants who were infected but asymptomatic. Unrecognized infections may have increased the probability of finding no difference between interventions, even if a difference existed.

    Second, self-reporting of symptoms in daily diaries likely underestimated illness among HCP who often work while ill.

    Third, despite being intentionally conducted as a pragmatic effectiveness trial, 8 incomplete participant adherence to assigned protective devices could have contributed to more unprotected
    exposures, increasing the probability of finding no difference between interventions even if a difference existed. However,participant-reported data indicates this did not differ by study group.

    Fourth, participants were not instructed to wear protective devices outside the workplace, which may have biased the results toward finding no difference between groups, although the rates of adherence did not differ by study group and household exposure was reported as much lower than workplace exposure.

    Fifth, only 2 N95 respirator and medical mask models were studied, limiting the ability to generalize about the protectiveness of other models.

    Sixth, the sample size required to definitively determine whether N95 respirators or medical masks are more effective for protection from laboratory-confirmed influenza in the health care setting required approximately 10 000 participant seasons, which was not feasible with the available funding or resources. However, the morbidity and mortality associated with a wide range of viral respiratory infections, including novel and emerging pathogens, renders a secondary outcome in this study, laboratory-confirmed respiratory illness, important.

    In the second study cited, Long (2020), I was told that we ought not to trust Chinese scientists because of their duplicity. Regardless, here are the acknowledged caveats to their study.

    Through the course of influenza pandemics, large numbers of facemasks may be required to use in long periods to protect people from infections.23 Using N95 respirators is likely to result in discomfort, for example, headaches.23 A previous study3 reported that there was an inverse relationship between the level of compliance with wearing an N95 respirator and the risk of clinical respiratory illness. It is difficult to ensure high compliance due to this discomfort of N95 respirators in all studies.

    The reason for the similar effects on preventing influenza for the use of N95 respirators versus surgical masks may be related to low compliance to N95 respirators wear,23 which may lead to more frequent doffing compared with surgical masks.13 Although N95 respirators may confer superior protection in laboratory studies designing to achieve 100% intervention adherence,24 the routine use of N95 respirators seems to be less acceptable due to more significant discomfort in real‐world practice.11 Therefore, the benefit of N95 respirators of fitting tightly to faces is offset or subjugated.13 However, it should be noted that the surgical masks are primarily designed to protect the environment from the wearer, whereas the respirators are supposed to protect the wearer from the environment.

    There are several limitations to this study. First, some RCTs had a high risk of bias due to lack of allocation concealment and blinding; although it is impractical to blind participants who would know the type of masks they are wearing. Second, the number of included studies focusing on the community was small. Consequently, the results of the subgroup analysis might be unreliable. Third, we identified RCTs from published systematic reviews, which may result in the omission of relative RCTs. Finally, there might be publication bias, and we cannot assess it due to an insufficient number of included RCTs.

    In one of the studies (The use of masks and respirators to prevent transmission of influenza: a systematic review of the scientific evidence, Faisal bin‐Reza, 2011) that were listed by the reporter, the author acknowledged:

    Continued research on the effectiveness masks/respirators use and other closely associated considerations remains an urgent priority with emphasis being on carefully designed observational studies and trials best conducted outside a crisis situation. However, examination of the literature has highlighted that well‐designed studies in this field are challenging. Studies need to be adequately powered to assess potentially small differences between interventions and the independent effect of mask/respirator wearing when a second intervention (e.g. hand hygiene) is employed; an appropriate control group must be identified (e.g. no use of masks/respirators). Most of the studies we examined were too small to reliably detect what would be anticipated to be moderate effects. Perhaps, one solution is to fund large multi‐centre trials with similar protocols in different sites for multiple years to achieve sufficient power. Protocols should include the collection of detailed exposure data, objective monitoring of compliance and assessment of potential confounders. It may be difficult to design studies employing a control group that does not use any protective equipment (including masks/respirators), particularly in healthcare settings, as such precautions are routinely recommended. Finally, there is a striking paucity of published studies with microbiologically proven influenza infection as an outcome; inclusion of laboratory outcomes is essential in any future study of masks/respirators on transmission of influenza.

    Now, for the 2015 study involving the first RCT of cloth masks, here is its discussion notes. Focus on the bolded parts.

    A limitation of this study is that we did not measure compliance with hand hygiene, and the results reflect self-reported compliance, which may be subject to recall or other types of bias. Another limitation of this study is the lack of a no-mask control group and the high use of masks in the controls, which makes interpretation of the results more difficult. In addition, the quality of paper and cloth masks varies widely around the world, so the results may not be generalisable to all settings. The lack of influenza and RSV (or asymptomatic infections) during the study is also a limitation, although the predominance of rhinovirus is informative about pathogens transmitted by the droplet and airborne routes in this setting. As in previous studies, exposure to infection outside the workplace could not be estimated, but we would assume it to be equally distributed between trial arms. The major strength of the randomised trial study design is in ensuring equal distribution of confounders and effect modifiers (such as exposure outside the workplace) between trial arms.

    Cloth masks are used in resource-poor settings because of the reduced cost of a reusable option. Various types of cloth masks (made of cotton, gauze and other fibres) have been tested in vitro in the past and show lower filtration capacity compared with disposable masks. The protection afforded by gauze masks increases with the fineness of the cloth and the number of layers, indicating potential to develop a more effective cloth mask, for example, with finer weave, more layers and a better fit.

    Cloth masks are generally retained long term and reused multiple times, with a variety of cleaning methods and widely different intervals of cleaning. Further studies are required to determine if variations in frequency and type of cleaning affect the efficacy of cloth masks.

    Pandemics and emerging infections are more likely to arise in low-income or middle-income settings than in wealthy countries. In the interests of global public health, adequate attention should be paid to cloth mask use in such settings. The data from this study provide some reassurance about medical masks, and are the first data to show potential clinical efficacy of medical masks. Medical masks are used to provide protection against droplet spread, splash and spray of blood and body fluids. Medical masks or respirators are recommended by different organisations to prevent transmission of Ebola virus, yet shortages of PPE may result in HCWs being forced to use cloth masks In the interest of providing safe, low-cost options in low income countries, there is scope for research into more effectively designed cloth masks, but until such research is carried out, cloth masks should not be recommended. We also recommend that infection control guidelines be updated about cloth mask use to protect the occupational health and safety of HCWs.

    The fact is that there is **enough** evidence to support the wearing of masks or respirators during illness to protect others, and public health emphasis on mask wearing during illness may help to reduce influenza virus transmission. In addition, mask use is BEST undertaken as part of a package of personal protection, especially including hand hygiene in both home and healthcare settings. Early initiation and correct and consistent wearing of masks/respirators may also improve their effectiveness.

    Most importantly, the reporter chose NOT to go into depth regarding the background and context of these studies, as well as incorporating experts in the health fields to provide additional information about the research. That is decidedly problematic.

    **I thought we cannot trust the media since it is all “Fake News”???

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  61. @Corvinus

    I weld steel quite often so I wear an N95 mask frequently to avoid getting iron, iron oxide, and many other compounds into my lungs especially when using an angle grinder to clean the steel prior to welding. These are relatively large particles that make my arms and the rest of my face as black as any black African and I’m a white guy.

    I came to my own mask conclusions based upon known FACTS and my experience.

    The super scary virus is 125nm in size. An N95 mask filters down to 300nm.
    Therefore, the N95 mask does not filter out the virus in the absolute. If the virus is a beach ball then the mask is an open doorway for it.

    Now, one might say that the virus is captured inside a cocoon of moisture as part of the exhalation or inhalation process, and the mask is trapping the larger combined entity.

    Sounds reasonable until one realizes that any moisture in the mask is subject to surface evaporation if the ambient environment isn’t 100% saturated air. Therefore, that evaporation will likely take the virus with it and allow it to loft into the immediate environment. Add a sneeze or cough into the mix and the moisture in the mask is expelled at high velocity allowing evaporation greater access to the exploded surface area of the ejected mist to potentially free the virus from the moisture cocoon. Any mask reasonably saturated with moisture will, via physics, eject some of that moisture during normal exhalation or inhalation. Sucking air through an N95 mask become rather difficult quickly if exhalation moisture or sweat has saturated it.

    Masks also don’t cover the eyes as an entry point for the virus. I wear wrap around eye protection when working on metal.

    Now consider that a single virus can start the replication process. It just takes one 125nm particle to infect an individual. Viral load is definitely a thing to consider, but the difference between initial virus amounts is just a timing variable for when the SHTF.

    A rag with ear loops is completely useless because it doesn’t conform to the facial features allowing large gaps to simply bypass the rag. Since these now stylish face diapers are prominently displayed by all the asshats in gov’t and their medical whores, instead of an N95 mask, I conclude the entire mask fatwa is bullshit and they know it.

    Given that the medical establishment has emphatically stated that coffee is bad for you and later that it’s good for you, that cholesterol is bad but later that it’s the triglycerides, that doctors featured in Marlboro commercials, etc, etc, etc, I further conclude that the medical establishments OPINIONS aren’t worth spit as they have no empirical and DEFINITIVE proof for just about anything they claim. MD’s, in particular, take credit for what the immune system actually accomplishes.

    Therefore the mask wearing edicts are just the control freaks getting off on their new found power because the general population is too stupid to figure it out.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  62. @Sparkon

    … Gov. Abbot ordered mask wearing …

    Pray tell, is every utterance of some politician a new law of nature? Isn’t it just that asshat’s opinion and he’s using the color of law to try to get compliance? Don’t the asshat’s in different jurisdictions have different opinions and different fatwas? The entirety of the ‘law’ is just an opinion, provable by showing that different jurisdictions have different laws. Why must I or you obey an opinion?

    If you’re so enamored with the law as to call the mask objectors outlaws, then I suggest that you’d be just fine if the same asshat’s decide to put a video camera in your bedroom to make sure you’re not abusing your wife. It would be advertised as an anti spousal abuse initiative. Would you be OK with that?

    Not everything the political class comes up with, even if it’s a law (their stupid opinion), should be blindly obeyed. That leads to tyranny which is already well underway in the US.

    The Covid hysteria is a manufactured crisis to attempt to cover the current economic implosion that started for real in Sept 2019. They’re going to try to keep it going throughout the unfolding depression to keep the angry mobs of decent citizens off the streets looking for their heads on a pike.

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  63. Sparkon says:
    @RoatanBill

    … Gov. Abbot ordered mask wearing …

    In the future, use quotation marks or the blockquote tag with my exact words, not yours, if you want to quote me, because that’s not what I said.

    Apparently, your reading comprehension is not too good, or you’d rather set up a straw man. My comment was about the timing of Abbot’s order. Until you demonstrate that you were able to follow the discussion, I see little merit in trying to engage with you, but here it is again:

    botazefa:
    @Sparkon
    “If masks are so effective why are we having ‘outbreaks’ in Texas, where masks are mandatory?”

    Sparkon:
    @botazefa
    Gov. Abbot did not order mask-wearing until July 2, 2020, and the mandate had opt-out loopholes for individual counties.

    You wrote:

    Isn’t it just that asshat’s opinion?

    No, it’s the consensus of most health authorities, both here in the USA, and around the globe.

    “It is striking just on the face of it that essentially every country that has used masks has done better than every country that hasn’t,” said Richard Stutt, a postdoctoral research associate at Cambridge University. Stutt was the lead author on a recent peer-reviewed study, which concluded that universal use of face masks in public could significantly reduce the spread of the virus, and if paired with lockdowns, prevent future waves of infection.[…]

    But at the state level, a growing number of mask requirements have come into force. Last week, Robert Redfield, the director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said that the country’s outbreak could be controlled within four to eight weeks if everyone wore masks.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/07/20/mandatory-face-mask-requirements-global-coronavirus/

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    , @RoatanBill
  64. @Sparkon

    You missed the entire thrust of my comment. Let me make it clear. No one has the right to FORCE anyone to wear a mask. Not the governor, not the president, no one. Timing is of no consequence. No one has the right to lock people up without a jury trial and a conviction for a crime. What governors and mayors are doing is tyrannical.

    Consensus has given us the BS CO2 argument about global warming now called climate change even though every graph shows temperatures rising hundreds of years before CO2 starts rising. They have the cart before the horse for political reasons.

    Consensus isn’t science. Proof is science. By allowing blowhards to issue fatwas the economy has been ruined and the effects of that catastrophe are yet to be realized. More people are going to die of the economic and its fall on effects than will ever die of this virus.

  65. @Sparkon

    BTW – Here’s another opinion from the CDC folks you apparently trust.

    https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article

    The medical establishment doesn’t operate on proof, it operates on statistics and comes to conclusions by running flawed experiments.

    Just from the Abstract: “Here, we review the evidence base on the effectiveness of nonpharmaceutical personal protective measures and environmental hygiene measures in non-healthcare settings and discuss their potential inclusion in pandemic plans. Although mechanistic studies [*] support the potential effect of hand hygiene or face masks, evidence from 14 randomized controlled trials of these measures did not support a substantial effect on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza. We similarly found limited evidence on the effectiveness of improved hygiene and environmental cleaning.”

    You can read the rest for yourself.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  66. @Alex222311155646

    And that’s not yet the worst of it. We’ve seen how bacteria grow resistant to antibiotics when exposed to them a lot. Guess what kind of superbugs they’re breeding by spraying tons of disinfectant everywhere?

    COVID-1984 is not too serious a health issue (yes, it can kill, but so can the flu and the common cold. We don’t consider those “serious”, do we?), but the aftermath of what the morons do to combat it will eventually cause just what they pretend COVID-1984 is. Lethal diseases that we can’t fight off because they’re immune to all possible cures.

    • Troll: Corvinus
  67. Corvinus says:
    @RoatanBill

    “I came to my own mask conclusions based upon known FACTS and my experience.”

    Which is subject to confirmation bias.

    “Given that the medical establishment has emphatically stated that coffee is bad for you and later that it’s good for you, that cholesterol is bad but later that it’s the triglycerides, that doctors featured in Marlboro commercials, etc, etc, etc, I further conclude that the medical establishments OPINIONS aren’t worth spit as they have no empirical and DEFINITIVE proof for just about anything they claim.”

    You do realize that the link you provided that questioned the effectiveness of masks is based on research from the medical establishment, right? So there is a disconnect here. You claim you do not trust their opinions…yet the source you offered relies on their opinion as evidence in support of the claim. So is it that you are selective in your outrage of the medical community when it suits your purpose?

    The fact of the matter is that new research may contradict earlier findings. It does not mean that we should distrust those professionals and their work; rather, we should applaud them for their continued efforts that yield results that become applicable to our lives.

    “Therefore the mask wearing edicts are just the control freaks getting off on their new found power because the general population is too stupid to figure it out.”

    The general population is smarter and more informed than you give them credit for.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  68. Corvinus says:
    @RoatanBill

    “The medical establishment doesn’t operate on proof, it operates on statistics and comes to conclusions by running flawed experiments.”

    Now, you do realize that this study was one found in the source that you cited, correct? Are you saying now that you disagree with this finding?

    And the reality is that the medical establishment does operate on proof. For example, clinical trials for drugs undergo a strict process before they are allowed to enter the marketplace. In other words, there are research protocols in place that enable medicines to be rigorously tested before pharmaceutical companies sell them to the general public.

    “No one has the right to FORCE anyone to wear a mask. Not the governor, not the president, no one.”

    Actually, We The People enabled our representatives to make policies for the general welfare of citizens. So the order for citizens to wear masks falls under this expectation. Now, feel free NOT to adhere to this policy, just realize that there are consequences for your actions.

    “Consensus isn’t science. Proof is science.”

    It’s called proof through consensus.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  69. Tall Guy says:

    Michelle,

    I enjoy reading your columns, but in this one, you have a HUGE error. You claim that for the week ended July 11, 2020, there were 181 deaths attributed to COVID. This figure does NOT match up with reporting from the CDC. Their total for that week was 4.361.

    That’s QUITE an enormous difference, and undermines your argument to some extent, given that actual reported deaths for COVID that week were 25 x what you claim.

    Here’s a reasonable take: The government lied at first because there was a severe shortage of N95 masks, so they told the public they were useless. Now that there are enough masks for healthcare workers, they are partly telling the truth. That is, an N95 mask will help a huge amount in preventing you from getting or spreading the virus, and other masks will help just a very small amount. So their “wear a mask, any mask” exhortations are still deceptive.

    So, no N95 masks available to you? Continue physical distancing as much as possible to be safe. Younger and want to take the chance? At least then avoid contact with the vulnerable.

    Michael Osterholm, health expert at the University of Minnesota is my source for the mask usefulness claims. Check out some of his Youtube interview on the subject.

  70. @Corvinus

    I provided the link for the person I was replying to. I don’t buy their pro or con research because they keep changing their minds on all sorts of medical issues. They either lied to me yesterday or they’re lying to me today.

    And make no mistake, it is lying when you publish something in some supposedly reputable journal that is so flimsy to be disproved later. The medical establishment even invents ailments like nosocomial infections and
    iatrogenic disease that most people have never heard of. Look them up – they are ailments caused by the medical establishment.

    No one has yet proven that the Covid virus is responsible for the deaths. Some think it’s TB that’s the real killer with Covid along for the ride. All the PCR testing is BS with all their false positives and negatives. The only real test is to examine a sample under an electron microscope and even then you have to trust the person’s opinion on what it is he’s seeing.

    The long and short is that the medical profession is way way way overrated. Year after year heart disease, cancer and other ailments take millions of lives and the medical and pharma mafia’s just want to provide symptomatic relief because an actual cure would be bad for business.

  71. @Corvinus

    I’d hate to have your logic on a jury. You can’t possibly be an engineering STEM graduate.

    Proof by consensus is outright bullshit. Consensus is what has wasted the last decade on the fraud that is climate science and the CO2 warming. Anyone can look at the graphs to see that the warming precedes the CO2 rise by hundreds of years. Even the 97% consensus was bogus.

    Sorry, but proof relies on empirical evidence that is replicable. Look at all the approved drugs that are later withdrawn. Why is there a vaccine court if they’re safe? Why does big pharma have an exception via the law that they can’t be sued for damages?

    You are cheering on the tyranny that is unfolding in the US. I left the US 16 years ago because I saw what was coming after 911. Every day new developments confirm I made the right decision.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @Sparkon
  72. @ corvinus and the rest of the supine smart guys:
    you wanna wear a face diaper ? go ahead, be a smart guy, but STFU about your pseudo science mumbo jumbo to FORCE people to do counterproductive actions BECAUSE YOU ARE SCARED…
    you and your ilk demonstrate PRECISELY why it would be a GOOD thing if the mexican beer virus fraud killed every last nekkid ape on the planet and we let a species with intact gonads take over…
    AS IF your (and my) miserable, pathetic, cowardly, pointless, boring lives are so dog damned pwecious the universe would collapse in sadness were we to disappear…
    geez, what a disgusting species… just WHAT is so admirable about this critter ? ? ? not a damn thing worth saving I can see these days… the seed is weak, the species is spent, time for extinction…
    .
    begun the corona wars have…

    • Troll: Corvinus
  73. I must say it’s quite disturbing going out and seeing so many people wearing masks, but on the other hand I’m sure it helps to reduce the risk of infectious airborne diseases and pollen allergies.

    But my main concern is: How will we enforce the bourqa ban in Christian countries when we are forcing our own women to cover their face?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  74. OK, I’ve had it…to all practical purposes COVID19 has been weaponized…and it’s a pretty damned effective weapon. The ISSUE THEY DO HAVE THERAPEUTICS THAT WORK!!! Several in fact, but it’s been weaponized… since when have you known a doctor not treat an infectious disease? I’m a retired nurse specialist, RN, CRNI.

    How can ANYONE be stupid enough to believe in contact tracing & follow up? THERE AREN’T ENOGH PEOPLE TO DO IT!!!! PERIOD!!! They can barely staff testing facilities….then then the issue of enough test kits….then the issue of reliable test results; there NO such thing as 100% positive tests from any lab….then hydroxychloroquine initially successful in treating C-19 in France, a president declared compasionate use of the drug and all hell broke loose..EVEN THO’ AT THE TIME WE HAD NOTHING ELSE AVAILABLE! Then the medical community became politicalized and attacked the drug use saying it caused death or worse, they shot out a suppossed study supporting their declaration and the study was posted in the New England Journal of Medicine…BOTH HAD TO RETRACT AS THE SO CALLED STUDY WAS A JOKE..So we now have leaders in the medical community misleading their colleagues because of their political leanings..the list goes on…WHO CAN WE REALLY TRUST?

    Positive cultures are sent home to stew for 2 weeks, instead of treated w/ one of the available regimens… Here’s a post from a medical C-19 group… then you f’ing understand WHY all positive cultures SHOULD BE TREATED!…. and NEVER allow this disease to progress… its like watching polio to see how far it will go:
    So I recently talked to a co-worker who has been working in ICU directly with covid positive patients. She said that they’re really trying to look into the clotting issue that’s happening. And that multiple autopsies are showing extensive amounts of clots everywhere. I knew there was a clotting issue happening, but they’re finding it in most severe cases. There’s a study I’ve been reading about with the gout medication colchicine. And that patients who are clotting have a high alpha defensin protein that this medication blocks apparently. It’s been showing some promise. Has anyone heard of physicians starting this on their patients?

  75. Corvinus says:
    @RoatanBill

    “I’d hate to have your logic on a jury. You can’t possibly be an engineering STEM graduate.”

    “Proof by consensus is outright bullshit.”

    You do realize that YOU were the one who supported this concept when you linked to the reporter’s claim that masks are ineffective, right? In other words, the author of the story provided several studies that demonstrated scientific consensus–the collective judgment, position, and opinion of the community of scientists in a particular field of study. Consensus implies general agreement, though not necessarily unanimity.

    Recall you previously stated that “the medical establishment doesn’t operate on proof, it operates on statistics and comes to conclusions by running flawed experiments.” Using YOUR logic, you are the patently refuting the reporter’s assertions because he employed proof by consensus.

    So did you simply link to someone without investigating their position and how it was derived? Are you still standing by the source you linked to? Yes or no? Why?

    “Consensus is what has wasted the last decade on the fraud that is climate science and the CO2 warming.”

    https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus

    Let us put your reasoning and logic skills to the test. Offer specific counter evidence to dispute the assertions in this link. Please show your work. Of course, the studies you cite are (gasp) based on proof of consensus. Remember, being outright dismissive (“even the 97% consensus was bogus”) assuredly does NOT constitute evidence.

    “Look at all the approved drugs that are later withdrawn. Why is there a vaccine court if they’re safe?”

    Indeed, there are some drugs that have been recalled, and thus there are legal protections in place. But the gold standard is evidence-based medicine. It has been a process. Please educate yourself.

    https://www.fda.gov/files/Promoting-Safe-and-Effective-Drugs-for-100-Years-%28download%29.pdf

    “Why does big pharma have an exception via the law that they can’t be sued for damages?”

    It was a Supreme Court case involving generic drugs. It was a 5-4 decision.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/edsilverman/2013/06/24/in-supreme-court-ruling-drugmakers-win-and-consumers-lose/#404c8ba336d6

    In explaining the decision, Alito then wrote the appeals court settled on an inadequate notion that Mutual could be held liable, unless its medicine was withdrawn entirely. “The court of appeals’ solution – that Mutual should simply have pulled sulindac from the market in order to comply with both state and federal law – is no solution. Rather, adopting the courts’ stop-selling rationale would render impossibility pre-emption a dead letter and work a revolution in this court’s pre-emption case law.”

    What was meant by impossibility pre-emption? As Leslie Kendrick of the University of Virginia School of Law explained recently on Torts Prof Blog, “state tort liability for design defect or failure-to-warn is predicated on a judgment that a drug or drug label was not designed safely. But (drugmakers) generally cannot alter drugs or labels without FDA approval. Thus, (drugmakers) argue, it is impossible for them to comply with both tort law and FDA requirements.”

    “You are cheering on the tyranny that is unfolding in the US”.

    Merely because I oppose your line of thinking? That is a wild generalization on your part.

    “No one has yet proven that the Covid virus is responsible for the deaths”.

    Actually, the medical professional has established it. YOU simply choose not to believe it because of your perpetual skepticism of this particular field in its entirety. How is that logical?

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  76. @Commentator Mike

    Good point. Also, how will we identify people who rob banks?

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  77. Sparkon says:
    @RoatanBill

    I’d hate to have your logic on a jury. You can’t possibly be an engineering STEM graduate.

    Proof by consensus is outright bullshit. Consensus is what has wasted the last decade on the fraud that is climate science and the CO2 warming. Anyone can look at the graphs to see that the warming precedes the CO2 rise by hundreds of years.

    Well, RoatanBill, it is your flawed logic on full display here. The conjecture about man made global warming because of CO₂ is one thing, and wearing a mask because of COVID-19 is a different thing entirely. Proving that conjecture A is false, does not prove that conjecture B is false.

    In any event, there is no consensus in either case. There are scientists and engineers on both sides of both issues.

    An association fallacy is an informal inductive fallacy of the hasty-generalization or red-herring type and which asserts, by irrelevant association and often by appeal to emotion, that qualities of one thing are inherently qualities of another.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  78. @Sparkon

    I never claimed conjecture A proves conjecture B or vice versa.

    I said all consensus is bullshit unless there’s empirical evidence to back it up that isn’t relying on some interpretation by a high priest.

    My logic stands.

    I did notice you never answered any of my questions in our previous exchange. I know why. You can’t answer because you can’t back up your assertions.

  79. @Corvinus

    I already told you that I included the link not because I believe in it but because I wanted to show the other poster that his religious belief in authority is misplaced because they speak out of both sides of their mouth. You keep harping on this as though you’ve discovered something. You haven’t. Building a shaky straw man topples easily.

    I also told you, point blank, that I make up my own mind. I read just about everything, but I believe next to nothing when the subject matter is one of the ‘soft sciences’ like medicine. They can and do and have made up all sorts or nonsense in years past to where their credibility is near zero with me.

    Your ‘please show your work’ reminds me of the global warming zealots that always used some form of appeal to authority for their religious views. They never understood that the entire field is nothing but conjecture and bad models. You’ve confirmed my suspicion that you have no real scientific or engineering background. All yo do is kneel down to authority figures.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  80. Corvinus says:
    @RoatanBill

    “I already told you that I included the link not because I believe in it but because I wanted to show the other poster that his religious belief in authority is misplaced because they speak out of both sides of their mouth.”

    Except only until I pressed the issue did you make this statement.

    “You keep harping on this as though you’ve discovered something.”

    I have. You were not entirely honest.

    “They can and do and have made up all sorts or nonsense in years past to where their credibility is near zero with me.”

    Right, based on confirmation bias. In other words, it is YOUR opinion. But not all opinions hold equal weight.

    “Your ‘please show your work’ reminds me of the global warming zealots that always used some form of appeal to authority for their religious views. They never understood that the entire field is nothing but conjecture and bad models.”

    Discourse mandates that one shows their work. You made the claim, now support it.

    “You’ve confirmed my suspicion that you have no real scientific or engineering background. All yo do is kneel down to authority figures.”

    Merely because I request that you provide evidence to buttress your assertions?

  81. Sparkon says:

    In addition to the CDC, WHO, Mayo Clinic, Johns Hopkins, Stanford, UCSF, UCSD, American Lung Assoc., and many other reputable scientific organizations now recommend face coverings to stem the spread of COVID-19.

    The case from Springfield, MO proves the point.

    The two hair stylists in Springfield, Mo., broke the cardinal rule of infection control: Despite having respiratory symptoms, one went to work and saw clients for eight days, when she learned she had tested positive for Covid-19. Her colleague also developed symptoms, three days after her co-worker, and also kept working until she tested positive, two days after the first stylist. Together, they saw 139 clients, with appointments for haircuts, shaves, and perms lasting 15 to 45 minutes.

    Yet when the local health department identified and contacted the 139 clients, asking them to self-quarantine for 14 days and checking in daily about whether they had developed Covid-19 symptoms, not a single one (of the 104 who agreed to be interviewed) did. Of the 67 who consented to a swab test, every one tested negative. There was one other notable fact about the case: Both stylists and every client had worn a face covering.

    The stark case, described on Tuesday in Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, adds to the near-universal scientific consensus that, more than any of [other] single action short of everyone entering solitary confinement, face coverings can prevent the transmission of the coronavirus that causes Covid-19.

    [my bold & correction]

    https://www.statnews.com/2020/07/14/if-everyone-wore-mask-covid19-could-be-controlled-cdc-director-urges/

  82. @Achmed E. Newman

    how will we identify people who rob banks?

    You know the answer to that. We won’t need to as they plan to abolish cash money.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  83. r says:
    @VinnyVette

    They had to give themselves time to buy stock in the companies that produce the masks. They aren’t even the same masks that health professionals use.

  84. Tom S. says:

    Why are none of these “experts” talking about the reality of how we get sick? The reality is we get sick by touching contaminated surfaces and then touching your mouth, bose, eyes. Masks are not going to stop the spread. Sanitizing surfaces and your hands will. Masks are giving people a false sense of security. Go into any grocery store and watch as the cashier and bagger touch every single item of every single customer. They are wearing masks, and many times, gloves. The problem is that if their hands or gloves were contaminated by touching a previous customers items then every item they touch after that is potentially contaminated. You leave the store, feeling safe becase everybody was wearing masks and standing behind plexiglass. When you get home you unpack your groceries and touch every item as well as the bag handles. It’s the same when the cold or flu is going around. Everybody is wiping down their mouse and keyboard at work. You touch, elevator buttons, doorhandles, stair railings and on and on. Restaurant servers are wearing masks but they are touching your plates and glasses and salt and pepper shaker, etc. They must sanitize those items and surfaces after every customer. Better yet, carry a small spray bottle with rubbibg alcohol in it or hand sanitizer and sanitize your hands after every store or restaurant visit.

  85. AlexD says:
    @Sparkon

    Tests by researchers at the Univ. of Illinois show that a double layer of cotton filtered out 98% of droplets containing marker particles the same size as SARS-CoV-2 ( ~100 nm).

    And?

    While the study ends after the mask stops the droplet, real life doesn’t work like that. The droplet evaporates, and then the virions are just sitting there on the mask, waiting for the next exhalation to carry them through the mask (whose pores are far too large to stop 0.1 micron particles) and into the air, where they become aerosols. This happens continuously for as long as the infected person keeps talking and breathing.

    Aerosols don’t fall to the ground within six feet like droplets. They can float around for hours if there is a slight air current, like the kind in rooms with people moving about or where there are a/c systems working. They go through a mask like a mosquito goes through a chain link fence, and they can affect people not only more than six feet away, but in different rooms or even different floors (thanks to the ventilation system of the building).

    It’s been known for ages that masks don’t impede the transmission of respiratory viruses. That’s why the CDC said it up front, that’s why the WHO said it up front, and that’s why it was the mainstream medical view just a few months ago, based on the sum total of science and research that has been done since our species discovered the existence of viruses. Now we’re supposed to believe, in a matter of weeks, that so much new evidence came in so as to turn the whole thing on its head? As Carl Sagan said, “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.” You don’t get that in two months of hurried, slipshod “science” during a pandemic.

    That’s why we don’t rush science. Not the “science” that the left keeps pointing to like it is some kind of infallible word of God, with themselves in the role of prophets whose interpretation of the word is not open for debate, but the real science, where skepticism and debate is the purpose of the whole thing, not a form of blasphemy against the church.

    The “science” of the left is a religion, and an objectively false one at that.

    Fauci’s explanation for his about-face was ridiculous. He said they were trying to save the masks, which were in short supply, for medical professionals who needed it. Was there some shortage of T-shirts or bandannas that I somehow missed? Ever since the about-face, that’s what they have been telling us to use if other kinds of masks were not available.

    It’s not that the idea of using improvised masks didn’t occur to anybody at first. The medical science literature is full of studies on the efficacy (or lack thereof) of improvised masks in the event of a pandemic, with publication dates that go back five, ten, twenty years.

    If Fauci had known that masks do work against respiratory viruses all along, as he claimed, it defies belief that he would poison the well by lying and saying masks do not work (and that they can even be hazardous if used improperly) when he knew, or should have known, that the shortage they were seeing was temporary.

    It also makes no sense to suggest that the “don’t bother masking” advice was based on a personal decision of his to lie for the greater good. It had been not just his advice, but the advice of the WHO, the surgeon general, the CDC, various other countries’ health departments, and the entire medical community as a whole, for far longer than “COVID” has been a household acronym.

    When a person says two polar opposite things, only one can be true. The other has to be false. Fauci admitted lying, which was already self-evident. But which statement was the true one? There’s no reason to take his word for it that his second statement was the true one, as he’s an admitted liar.

    To believe the first statement was easy… it was the non-controversial conclusion of decades of study into respiratory diseases, including 20 years studying SARS, a close relative of COVID-19. The other requires so many logical implausibilities (starting with the idea that it was something Fauci made up rather than the view of the CDC, WHO, and medical science as a whole), that no one who had actually stopped to think about what Fauci said could ever believe it.

    It doesn’t take a scientist to see which side the preponderance of the evidence favors.

    I’ve debated with the maskists online, and when they praise Fauci for being brave enough to admit he was wrong when new evidence came in about COVID and masks, they’re changing his argument from “I knew masks work, but I lied to protect the supplies for medical professionals” to “I thought that masks were ineffective, but now new evidence has come in and I changed my mind.”

    The use of strawman arguments is common, meaning to knowingly misrepresent the opponent’s argument in a way that makes it easy to knock down, but this is kind of a reverse strawman where they’re declaring the argument of the guy they are defending to be the strawman and substituting a better one. If that had been the argument that Fauci wished to make, he would have made it, but it isn’t.

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