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To hear the candidates debate, you would think that their fight was over who could best beat Trump. But when Trump’s billionaire twin Mike Bloomberg throws a quarter-billion dollars into an ad campaign to bypass the candidates actually running for votes in Iowa, New Hampshire and Nevada, it’s obvious that what really is at issue is the future of the Democrat Party. Bloomberg is banking on a brokered convention held by the Democratic National Committee (DNC) in which money votes. (If “corporations are people,” so is money in today’s political world.)

Until Nevada, all the presidential candidates except for Bernie Sanders were playing for a brokered convention. The party’s candidates seemed likely to be chosen by the Donor Class, the One Percent and its proxies, not the voting class (the 99 Percent). If, as Mayor Bloomberg has assumed, the DNC will sell the presidency to the highest bidder, this poses the great question: Can the myth that the Democrats represent the working/middle class survive? Or, will the Donor Class trump the voting class?

This could be thought of as “election interference” – not from Russia but from the DNC on behalf of its Donor Class. That scenario would make the Democrats’ slogan for 2020 “No Hope or Change.” That is, no change from today’s economic trends that are sweeping wealth up to the One Percent.

All this sounds like Rome at the end of the Republic in the 1st century BC. The way Rome’s constitution was set up, candidates for the position of consul had to pay their way through a series of offices. The process started by going deeply into debt to get elected to the position of aedile, in charge of staging public games and entertainments. Rome’s neoliberal fiscal policy did not tax or spend, and there was little public administrative bureaucracy, so all such spending had to be made out of the pockets of the oligarchy. That was a way of keeping decisions about how to spend out of the hands of democratic politics. Julius Caesar and others borrowed from the richest Bloomberg of their day, Crassus, to pay for staging games that would demonstrate their public spirit to voters (and also demonstrate their financial liability to their backers among Rome’s One Percent). Keeping election financing private enabled the leading oligarchs to select who would be able to run as viable candidates. That was Rome’s version of Citizens United.

But in the wake of Sanders’ landslide victory in Nevada, a brokered convention would mean the end of the Democrat Party pretense to represent the 99 Percent. The American voting system would be seen to be as oligarchic as that of Rome on the eve of the infighting that ended with Augustus becoming Emperor in 27 BC.

Today’s pro-One Percent media – CNN, MSNBC and The New York Times have been busy spreading their venom against Sanders. On Sunday, February 23, CNN ran a slot, “Bloomberg needs to take down Sanders, immediately.” Given Sanders’ heavy national lead, CNN warned, the race suddenly is almost beyond the vote-fixers’ ability to fiddle with the election returns. That means that challengers to Sanders should focus their attack on him; they will have a chance to deal with Bloomberg later (by which CNN means, when it is too late to stop him).

The party’s Clinton-Obama recipients of Donor Class largesse pretend to believe that Sanders is not electable against Donald Trump. This tactic seeks to attack him at his strongest point. Recent polls show that he is the only candidate who actually would defeat Trump – as they showed that he would have done in 2016.

The DNC knew that, but preferred to lose to Trump than to win with Bernie. Will history repeat itself? Or to put it another way, will this year’s July convention become a replay of Chicago in 1968?

A quandary, not a problem

Last year I was asked to write a scenario for what might happen with a renewed DNC theft of the election’s nomination process. To be technical, I realize, it’s not called theft when it’s legal. In the aftermath of suits over the 2016 power grab, the courts ruled that the Democrat Party is indeed controlled by the DNC members, not by the voters. When it comes to party machinations and decision-making, voters are subsidiary to the superdelegates in their proverbial smoke-filled room (now replaced by dollar-filled foundation contracts).

I could not come up with a solution that does not involve dismantling and restructuring the existing party system. We have passed beyond the point of having a solvable “problem” with the Democratic National Committee (DNC). That is what a quandary is. A problem has a solution – by definition. A quandary does not have a solution. There is no way out. The conflict of interest between the Donor Class and the Voting Class has become too large to contain within a single party. It must split.

A second-ballot super-delegate scenario would mean that we are once again in for a second Trump term. That option was supported by five of the six presidential contenders on stage in Nevada on Wednesday, February 20. When Chuck Todd asked whether Michael Bloomberg, Elizabeth Warren, Joe Biden, Pete Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar would support the candidate who received the most votes in the primaries (now obviously Bernie Sanders), or throw the nomination to the super-delegates held over from the Obama-Clinton neoliberals (75 of whom already are said to have pledged their support to Bloomberg), each advocated “letting the process play out.” That was a euphemism for leaving the choice to the Tony-Blair style leadership that have made the Democrats the servants’ entrance to the Republican Party. Like the British Labour Party behind Blair and Gordon Brown, its role is to block any left-wing alternative to the Republican program on behalf of the One Percent.

ORDER IT NOW

This problem would not exist if the United States had a European-style parliamentary system that would enable a third party to obtain space on the ballots in all 50 states. If this were Europe, the new party of Bernie Sanders, AOC et al. would exceed 50 percent of the votes, leaving the Wall Street democrats with about the same 8 percent share that similar neoliberal democratic parties have in Europe (e.g., Germany’s hapless neoliberalized Social Democrats), that is, Klobocop territory as voters moved to the left. The “voting Democrats,” the 99 Percent, would win a majority leaving the Old Neoliberal Democrats in the dust.

The DNC’s role is to prevent any such challenge. The United States has an effective political duopoly, as both parties have created such burdensome third-party access to the ballot box in state after state that Bernie Sanders decided long ago that he had little alternative but to run as a Democrat.

The problem is that the Democrat Party does not seem to be reformable. That means that voters still may simply abandon it – but that will simply re-elect the Democrats’ de facto 2020 candidate, Donald Trump. The only hope would be to shrink the party into a shell, enabling the old guard to go away so that the party could be rebuilt from the ground up.

But the two parties have created a legal duopoly reinforced with so many technical barriers that a repeat of Ross Perot’s third party (not to mention the old Socialist Party, or the Whigs in 1854) would take more than one election cycle to put in place. For the time being, we may expect another few months of dirty political tricks to rival those of 2016 as Obama appointee Tom Perez is simply the most recent version of Florida fixer Debbie Schultz-Wasserman (who gave a new meaning to the Wasserman Test).

So we are in for another four years of Donald Trump. But by 2024, how tightly will the U.S. economy find itself tied in knots?

The Democrats’ Vocabulary of Deception: How I would explain Bernie’s Program

Every economy is a mixed economy. But to hear Michael Bloomberg and his fellow rivals to Bernie Sanders explain the coming presidential election, one would think that an economy must be either capitalist or, as Bloomberg put it, Communist. There is no middle ground, no recognition that capitalist economies have a government sector, which typically is called the “socialist” sector – Social Security, Medicare, public schooling, roads, anti-monopoly regulation, and public infrastructure. These are a valid alternative to privatized monopolies extracting economic rent.

What Mr. Bloomberg means by insisting that it’s either capitalism or communism is an absence of government social spending and regulation. In practice this means oligarchic financial control, because every economy is planned by some sector. The key is, who will do the planning? If government refrains from taking the lead in shaping markets, then Wall Street takes over – or the City in London, Frankfurt in Germany, and the Bourse in France.

Most of all, the aim of the One Percent is to distract attention from the fact that the economy is polarizing – and is doing so at an accelerating rate. National income statistics are rigged to show that “the economy” is expanding. The pretense is that everyone is getting richer and living better, not more strapped. But the reality is that all the growth in GDP has accrued to the wealthiest 5 Percent since the Obama Recession began in 2008. Obama bailed out the banks instead of the 10 million victimized junk-mortgage holders. The 95 Percent’s share of GDP has shrunk.

The GDP statistics do not show that “capital gains” – the market price of stocks, bonds and real estate owned mainly by the One to Five Percent – has soared. This is thanks to Obama’s $4.6 trillion Quantitative Easing pumped into the financial markets instead of into the “real” economy in which wage-earners produce goods and services.

How does one “stay the course” in an economy that is polarizing? Staying the course means continuing the existing trends that are concentrating more and more wealth in the hands of the One Percent, that is, the Donor Class – while loading down the 99 Percent with more debt, paid to the One Percent (euphemized as the economy’s “savers”). All “saving” is at the top of the pyramid. The 99 Percent can’t afford to save much after paying their monthly “nut” to the One Percent.

If this economic polarization is impoverishing most of the population while sucking wealth and income and political power up to the One Percent, then to be a centrist is to be the candidate of oligarchy. It means not challenging the economy’s structure.

Language is being crafted to confuse voters into imagining that their interest is the same as that of the Donor Class of rentiers, creditors and financialized corporate businesses and rent-extracting monopolies. The aim is to divert attention from voters’ own economic interest as wage-earners, debtors and consumers. It is to confuse voters not to recognize that without structural reform, today’s “business as usual” leaves the One Percent in control.

So to call oneself a “centrist” is simply a euphemism for acting as a lobbyist for siphoning up income and wealth to the One Percent. In an economy that is polarizing, the choice is to favor them instead of the 99 Percent.

That certainly is not the same thing as stability. Centrism sustains the polarizing dynamic of financialization, private equity, and the Biden-sponsored bankruptcy “reform” written by his backers of the credit-card companies and other financial entities incorporated in his state of Delaware. He was the senator for that state’s Credit Card industry, much as former Democratic VP candidate Joe Lieberman was the senator from Connecticut’s Insurance Industry.

A related centrist demand is that of Buttigieg’s and Biden’s aim to balance the federal budget. This turns out to be a euphemism for cutting back Social Security, Medicare and replace social spending (“socialism”) to pay for America’s increasing militarization, subsidies and tax cuts for the One Percent. Sanders rightly calls this “socialism for the rich.” The usual word for this is oligarchy. That seems to be a missing word in today’s mainstream vocabulary.

ORDER IT NOW

The alternative to democracy is oligarchy. As Aristotle noted already in the 4th century BC, oligarchies turn themselves into hereditary aristocracies. This is the path to serfdom. To the vested financial interests, Hayek’s “road to serfdom” means a government strong enough to tax wealth and keep basic essential infrastructure in the public domain, providing its services to the population at subsidized prices instead of letting its services be monopolized.

Confusion over the word “socialism” may be cleared up by recognizing that every economy is mixed, and every economy is planned – by someone. If not the government in the public interest, then by Wall Street and other financial centers in their interest. They fought against an expanding government sector in every economy today, calling it socialism – without acknowledging that the alternative, as Rosa Luxemburg put it, is barbarism.

I think that Sanders is using the red-letter word “socialism” and calling himself a “democratic socialist” to throw down the ideological gauntlet and plug himself into the long and powerful tradition of socialist politics. Paul Krugman would like to call himself a social democrat. But the European parties of this name have discredited this label as being centrist and neoliberal. Sanders wants to emphasize that a quantum leap, a phase change is in order.

If he can be criticized for waving a needlessly red flag, it is his repeated statement that his program is designed for the “working class.” What he means are wage-earners and this includes the middle class. Even those who make over $100,000 a year are still wage earners, and typically are being squeezed by a predatory financial sector, a predatory medical insurance sector, drug companies and other monopolies.

The danger in this terminology is that most workers like to think of themselves as middle class, because that is what they would like to rise into. That is especially the case for workers who own their own home (even if mortgage represents most of the value, so that most of the home’s rental value is paid to banks, not to themselves as part of the “landlord class”), and have an education (even if most of their added income is paid out as student debt service), and their own car to get to work (involving automobile debt).

The fact is that even $100,000 executives have difficulty living within the limits of their paycheck, after paying their monthly nut of home mortgage or rent, medical care, student loan debt, credit-card debt and automobile debt, not to mention 15% FICA paycheck withholding and state and local tax withholding.

Of course, Sanders’ terminology is much more readily accepted by wage-earners as the voters whom Hillary called “Deplorables” and Obama called “the mob with pitchforks,” from whom he was protecting his Wall Street donors whom he invited to the White House in 2009. But I think there is a much more appropriate term: the 99 Percent, made popular by Occupy Wall Street. That is Bernie’s natural constituency. It serves to throw down the gauntlet between democracy and oligarchy, and between socialism and barbarism, by juxtaposing the 99 Percent to the One Percent.

The Democratic presidential debate on February 25 will set the stage for Super Tuesday’s “beauty contest” to gauge what voters want. The degree of Sanders’ win will help determine whether the byzantine Democrat party apparatus actually will be able to decide on the Party’s candidate. The expected strong Sanders win will make the choice stark: either to accept who the voters choose – namely, Bernie Sanders – or to pick a candidate whom voters already have rejected, and is certain to lose to Donald Trump in November.

If that occurs, the Democrat Party will evaporate as its old Clinton-Obama guard is no longer able to protect its donor class on Wall Street and corporate America. Too many Sanders voters would stay home or vote for the Greens. That would enable the Republicans to maintain control of the Senate and perhaps even grab back the House of Representatives.

But it would be dangerous to assume that the DNC will be reasonable. Once again, Roman history provides a “business as usual” scenario. The liberal German politician Theodor Mommsen published his History of Rome in 1854-56, warning against letting an aristocracy block reform by controlling the upper house of government (Rome’s Senate, or Britain House of Lords). The leading families who overthrew the last king in 509 BC created a Senate chronically prone to being stifled by its leaders’ “narrowness of mind and short-sightedness that are the proper and inalienable privileges of all genuine patricianism.”

These qualities also are the distinguishing features of the DNC. Sanders had better win big!

 
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  1. Dutch Boy says:

    Alas, Bernie’s program won’t work if he throws open the borders to a Third World tsunami (which he has promised to do). He used to denounce this as a Koch Bros. program but it seems he’s okay with it now. Perhaps he will now be the second Koch brother, since bro David has died.

  2. Mr. Hack says:

    One of Sanders’ biggest problems will be to continue trying to hide the costs of his various socialist programs to build his Utopian society and the related tax increases that will need to be raised to support it. You could see his anger when asked these sorts of questions on the recent 60 Minutes interview, where he wan’t able to answer any of the questions that were posed to him. Many of the “99 percenters” will have pause to reflect on whether they really want a 10% (or more) increase to their tax rates, especially if they’re gainfully employed making anywhere near the $100k alluded to herein. Bernie will probably end up getting a lot of unemployed college kids to vote for him, and then what?

  3. Levtraro says:

    I suspect his open-borders advocacy and Russia-bashing too are lies; these are lines of defence against internal forces. It makes sense for him to take those positions while he seeks the nomination. If he gets it, he can betray those positions. A serious politician has to demonstrate a large capacity for betrayal. At the end of the day, he is a hardened politician like the rest.

    • Agree: Jett Rucker
  4. Levtraro says:
    @Mr. Hack

    His “Utopian society” is a reality in most of the developed world.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    , @ld
    , @Pop Warner
  5. Mr. Hack says:
    @Levtraro

    And “socialist” countries like Sweden and Denmark require their average tax payer to fork over between 49% to 60% of their income in taxes. We’ll see just how popular and how far Bernie will go when Trump starts to point these little known facts out to the American voters. So far, Bernie doesn’t even know the combined costs of all of his proposed “Utopian” programs. 🙂

    • Replies: @Levtraro
    , @TKK
    , @Arnieus
    , @Delta G
  6. pogohere says:
    @Mr. Hack

    Cutting the MIC sector down to size in order to provide the wherewithal to fund weapons that work in order to defend the 50 states instead of rule-the-world is both the acid test and the third rail for a genuine populist. That policy, combined with allowing major financial predators to dissolve upon the failure of their business model, would fund what it takes to bring the US in line with life expectancy and health outcomes similar to what is being achieved in other developed countries.

    It’s barely thinkable. We are unlikely to hear it from any mainstream candidate. The US decline will continue until morale improves.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    , @Redneck farmer
  7. Mr. Hack says:
    @pogohere

    If this is what Bernie advocates too, he’ll run into even more problems with our military-industrial complex.

  8. onebornfree says: • Website

    “There is no middle ground, no recognition that capitalist economies have a government sector, which typically is called the “socialist” sector – Social Security, Medicare, public schooling, roads, anti-monopoly regulation, and public infrastructure. These are a valid alternative to privatized monopolies extracting economic rent.”

    No, they are not “valid alternatives” – they are all government mandated/controlled, always bankrupt, 100% criminal scams which rob individuals in the name of benefitting society as a whole, when they all do the exact opposite. Nothing more, nothing less.

    “Because they are all ultimately funded via both direct and indirect theft [taxes], and counterfeiting [central bank monopolies], all governments are essentially, at their very cores, 100% corrupt  criminal scams which cannot be “reformed”or “improved”,simply because of their innate criminal nature.”   onebornfree

    “Government  is a disease masquerading as its own cure”  Robert LeFevere

    “Taking the State wherever found, striking into its history at any point, one sees no way to differentiate the activities of its founders, administrators and beneficiaries from those of a professional-criminal class.”      Albert J. Nock

    No regards, onebornfree

    • Agree: Tlotsi
    • Troll: Biff
  9. TG says:

    Quandry? “If there is no solution, there is no problem!”

    The big deal with Bernie, I think, is his donor-driven post-2015 change on mass immigration. Even Ann Coulter says she’d vote for 2015 Bernie, but the present Bernie, who wants to wipe out border enforcement – which means wiping out the border – which means ending the country as a country – would invite at least hundreds of millions of third world refugees into the nation, and giving them all free medical care will bankrupt us very very quickly.

    Indeed the elites are screwing the average person, and most of that is today condemned as ‘socialism’ is about where Richard Nixon was in the political spectrum (how soon we forget). But Bernie 2015 was right: open borders is a Koch Brothers plan and it will wipe out all other good aspects of his proposed programs. Because corporate propaganda aside, no nation without an open frontier has either achieved or maintained a high standard of living in the face of massive population growth.

    If it’s 2020 Bernie vs. Trump, then I, as an FDR-style progressive, have no choice but to vote for Trump. And that’s sad.

    • Agree: Sean
  10. …in the wake of Sanders’ landslide victory in Nevada, a brokered convention would mean the end of the Democrat Party pretense to represent the 99 Percent.

    …as if it really mattered. Leftist policies are built on manufactured memes, anecdotal narratives, hyperbolic delusions, ephemeral boogeymen, sweeping generalizations, logical fallacies, and bloated definitions. In other words it’s lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, all the way up and down the chain.

    With leftists, the only reality is power. For everything else, in any conflict between reality and fantasy, fantasy wins every damn time.

    • Agree: Tlotsi
  11. gotmituns says:

    All this democratic BS is, is a bunch of vultures fighting over the remains of our once great Republic.

  12. Rahan says:

    I’ll just throw in this mildly related news item: a third of Poland, through decisions on the municipal level, has declared itself “no LGBT propaganda zones”. The pinkos are livid.

    https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/02/25/third-of-poland-lgbt-free-zone-atlas-of-hate-homophobia/

    The “federal govt” of the EU is also livid, but the local conservative state govt gives everyone the finger.

  13. nickels says:

    Unfortunately Bernie’s platform is incoherent.
    He supports identity politics, which is the creation of the Oligarchs to divide and rule the peons.
    So he is working for the Oligarchy.
    His ‘diversity’ is nothing more than a distraction from class and financial exploitation.
    These phony liberals work in the null space of the rich’s exploitation machine. They NEVER threaten the rich.
    In common parlance such people are called neoliberals.
    Bernie and his open border welfare state proves he is either a liar or an idiot.

    Of course, the whole discussion is pointless since congress has the power and they are all bought off long ago from every conceivable direction.

    Good explanation of this by a smarter leftie:

    • Agree: anon8383892
  14. nsa says:

    “The Democrat’s Quandary”?
    The Tribe’s Quandary would be more accurate. The Tribe controls US media, finance, and both political parties……does the tribe feel secure enough to install one of their own, a real live jew, into the White Hooch to replace their useful idiot crypto-jew, Trumpstein? Bolshy Bernie and Billions Bloomie are not electable, you say. Oh, really? Engineer a stock market douche along with even a mild recession, and you can say hello to President Bernie and 300 lb First Lady Jane. Hell, let some of that Ft. Detrick corona virus boomerang back into the US and watch the public go nuts with fear and anger. Bernie will be right there promising to cure the face mask shortage and provide free vaccines for everyone as part of his medicare for all plan. Bloomie would be even easier to install as he was a R most his life, just as Trumpstein was a D, and has actual experience running a large organization.

  15. Kim says:
    @onebornfree

    Government “health care” systems are nothing more than a scam for big corporate interests, as “health care” has very little to do with health and everything to do with underwriting the business models of Big Ag, Big Pharma, Big Chem and Big Medicine.

    The process works like this: Big Ag and Big Chem produce cheap grains and put them in boxes with masses of sugar or corn syrup fructose and grain-based oils and sell the resultant swill at 500% markups. The sheep-people eat this “food” and as a result develop diabetes, heart disease, and cancer, become obese and prone to strokes and numerous inflammatory diseases and all kinds of aggravating conditions and diseases of the intestinal system.

    Big Pharma and Big Med then take over to treat and manage these conditions (never, ever curing them), so that from an early age the sickness of citizens becomes a reliable profit center and the wealth of the human being trapped in this system is constantly drained off by these pitiless con men.

    The cost of this is difficult for individuals and families to meet, so the government must be brought in to force us to pick up the ever-inflating tab.

    Nothing about either “health” or “care” involved in this process at all. Socialist? Who cares? Does it matter what color hat the thief wears?

    • Agree: TKK, Mark G.
    • Replies: @onebornfree
  16. @TG

    Wiping out border enforcement is open to a very different interpretation. Hundreds of millions of refugees? Taking refuge from what? American destruction of their home countries and their former lives. If Bernie shuts the oligarchic vultures out of those countries, helps them to recover from American destruction, those refugees will want to return to their beloved homelands. So, Bernie wiping out border enforcement then would be win-win.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    , @Pop Warner
  17. I see you are the author of a book called “J is for Junk Economics”. I suggest that the problem cannot be understood in its entirety until you admit that in reality, J is for Something Else entirely.

    The purpose of the open borders push is not to help the poor downtrodden Third Worlders, who would simply get economically crushed to death in a global Who-concert stampede, as the sludge of the entire planet simultaneously scrambles for America. The purpose is not even to pander to our existing Third World sludge for their votes. The purpose is to permanently destroy White Christian America (which is to effectively say, America) by burying it alive under a 10,000-mile thick layer of Third World sludge which can never be removed. Cui, as they say, bono? Huh, it’s a mystery.

  18. @pogohere

    In about 10-20 years, watch for What Happened To European Healthcare? articles, as the effects of African immigration play out.

  19. Apparently Mr. Hudson is unaware that Europe finances its health care systems mostly through payroll taxes? Paying more in payroll taxes to pay for my health insurance to help keep my employer competitive wouldn’t bother me. Most Americans though, would suddenly decide their health insurance wasn’t that bad, or expensive.

  20. Nothing will ever wake up the majority of Americans to the reality of their political system. If they get a billionaire as a candidate who clearly bought the election things will still go on as usual. Nothing is not allowed to the ruling elite. This is the post truth America. Where it previously hid behind higher values now it’s blatantly doing everything it used to accuse others of doing. The elite does not need to hide – they simply just need to use some buzz words and “repent” for their past. Simply that is enough. And it’s gonna be candidate XYZ who gets the nomination.
    Hoping for most americans to awake in the face of clear evidence after so many years is borderline insane.

    • Agree: Marshall Lentini
  21. … every economy is mixed, and every economy is planned – by someone. If not the government in the public interest, then by Wall Street and other financial centers in their interest.

    This. Libertarianism is an even fairy tale than pure Communism.

    If he can be criticized for waving a needlessly red flag, it is his repeated statement that his program is designed for the “working class.” What he means are wage-earners and this includes the middle class.

    If all you have to sell in order to earn your living is your own labor, you are by definition ‘working class’, whether you’re earning $10 dollars an hour or a hundred dollars.

    The danger in this terminology is that most workers like to think of themselves as middle class, because that is what they would like to rise into.

    Ah, yes! All those “temporarily embarrassed millionaires” out there.

  22. Levtraro says:
    @Mr. Hack

    Many developed countries have substantially lower tax rates and they still provide what Sanders is promising (e.g. Spain). The thing is his promises are not utopian. Either you don’t know what utopian means or you could be insincere.

    One more thing. Higher tax rates could be understood as pre-paying for services that would otherwise risk families going bankrupt as it seems to happens a lot in the USA regarding health payments.

    Sorry, still one more thing. Where I live poor people receive an income from taxes paid by guys like me. I guess that is better than having 13% of the population eating fron handouts, aka food stamps? Also, 63% of people in the USA not having 500-1000 bucks for an emergency? Is that not embarrasing?

  23. Levtraro says:
    @TG

    I bet Bernie is lying about his supposed change of mind to open borders. As you said, it was a donor-driven shift in policy. As soon as he gets the nomination, if he does, he is going to do a 180 to attract Trump voters. Or do you believe everything he says?

  24. Another Bernie Bro using 2800 words to remind us “There’s nothing to fear from ol’ Uncle Bernie, he just wants to fund fire departments and fix our roads, what’s scary about that?”

    Free healthcare is a human right.
    Free education is a human right.
    Free abortion and birth control are human rights.
    Good jobs and affordable housing are human rights.

    You know how to tell if something is a human right? When nobody else has to pay for it.

    Medicare for all, at the same time “all” means anybody who can make it into America … what could go wrong?

    If Socialism is so great its disciples wouldn’t have to keep lying about it.

    P.S.: Give up two of the houses, Bernie.

  25. sarz says:
    @TG

    I suspect that the current Bernie on open borders is just a phase before the nomination. A salute to Demo idiocy.

    Bernie’s close associate Gabbard has been quietly talking sense on the border issue for quite some time.

    This is an issue on which Trump has himself waffled a lot and delivered very little. It would be looking a gift horse in the mouth if Bernie were not to run with the border issue against Trump.

    • Replies: @RudyM
  26. Liberal Democrats Meeting

    Stupid Voters

  27. Anon 123 says:

    Denmark was often rated as the happiest place on earth and as having the highest quality of living in spite of having to pay taxes in the 60% range. And no wonder–with birth, child care, education, housing, health care and retirement costs all covered by the state, I would be happy as a freakin lark and very willing to pay those taxes. Imagine living a life where you don’t have to spend decades stressing over how to pay for all that!

    But I suspect the core ingredient (never mentioned) in making their form of socialism work was having a homogeneous race, language and culture. And also in not having to endure the ever-draining financial burden of parasite welfare states such as Israel and Puerto Rico. Denmark might still be happy if they hadn’t thrown their doors open to mass migration.

    The ship for socialism in America sailed a long time ago. We have 21% actual unemployment and a vast unemployable underclass that is growing by the day. There is simply not enough money to sustain the mess that has been created.

  28. @Levtraro

    They also have tend to have large budget deficits like the US, without the excuse that they have to protect Europe from Russia. Please note how much European leaders across the spectrum s*** their pants if the US acts like it’s going to seriously reduce its military presence in Europe.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
    , @Biff
  29. Herald says:
    @TG

    If it’s 2020 Bernie vs. Trump, then I, as an FDR-style progressive, have no choice but to vote for Trump. And that’s sad.

    That’s not just sad, it’s totally wrong-headed.

    Better not to vote at all, than voting than for a man, who has proved himself to be a liar, arch-Zionist and a cold blooded murderer.

  30. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Kim

    Well of course! Tell me something I don’t know 😉. But the slaves [like Hudson] all love their government “healthcare”, “insurance”, roads, plus the indoctrination system that gets them all to love it all , aka government-run “education”.

    And so it goes….

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  31. Realist says:

    In a struggle between oligarchy and democracy, something must give

    America hasn’t been a democracy for decades…there is no contest…oligarchy (Deep State) won a long time ago. The only struggle is to continue the facade/charade that we are a democracy/democratic republic.

    The Deep State doesn’t care about the unimportant internecine squabbles of the ‘two parties’ as long as their important issues are maintained. As a matter of fact it strengthens the false perception that there is a choice when voting.

    The Deep State consists of the very wealthy who are greedy for more wealth and power. There are 607 billionaires in the US. There is no reason for the Deep State members to formally collude…they all know what needs to be done and how to do it. They use a relatively small amount of their money to place their minions in positions of power…heads of the movie industry, the media, the federal government, academia. From then on if the lessers in these groups want to keep their jobs/lives they will toe the line. It becomes self sustaining from tax money and the Deep State glories in more wealth and power. Here is an excellent example of the Deep State in action: The SCOTUS has passed down egregious decisions that abridge the First Amendment and show contempt for the concept of a representative democracy. Buckley v. Valeo, 424 U.S. 1976 and exacerbated by continuing stupid SCOTUS decisions First National Bank of Boston v. Bellotti, Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission and McCutcheon v. Federal Election Commission.
    These decisions have codified that money is free speech thereby giving entities of wealth and power almost total influence in elections. By gaining control of the SCOTUS the Deep State is able to further their goals.

    Another take on the Deep State:
    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2019/11/14/understanding-the-deep-states-propaganda/

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  32. Is the US presently a :
    1. Pathocracy
    2.Plutocracy
    3.Oligarchy
    4.Kakistocracy
    5.Cryptocracy
    6.All of the above ?

    • Replies: @Omegabooks
  33. Anon[398] • Disclaimer says:

    Lmao … in the end, (((Bernie))) will kneel to usury. They always do.

  34. Dr. X says:

    This article correctly describes how the neoliberal globalists and bankers are engaging in a massive ripoff of the “99%” (although I think the ratio is more like 80-20% rather than 99-1%). But I don’t think Bernie has the solution.

    Frankly, the Democratic Party had the solution — the New Deal, which actually did create economic security for the white working class. But they threw it out the window, and sided with the neoliberal oligarchy to finance their hedonistic post-1960s lifestyle of porn, drugs, miscegenation, integration, and recreational sex. They’ve completely destroyed the culture. I don’t think there is any solution at this point.

  35. It’s interesting: Hudson calls Democrat’s “the servants’ entrance to the Republican Party” and refers to the republican party’s agenda in favor of the one percent.

    Meanwhile, also on unz.com this very day, Boyd Cathey has a column “The Russians are Coming” wherein he calls Republicans “a sordid and disreputable second cousin of the advancing leftist juggernaut.”

    Perhaps they are both correct, and each of their own party’s ruling apparatus is no better than the “other” party’s ruling apparatus at all.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  36. anarchyst says:
    @Levtraro

    You miss one very important point.
    Almost every European country is covered under the “American defense umbrella” which relieves them from having to shoulder their own defense costs.
    This is why they can have extravagant “social programs” and “free” health care.
    As to “lower taxes”, I beg to differ.
    When one has to pay the equivalent of $6.00 to $10.00 for a gallon of gasoline, is that not considered a “tax”?
    The cost of living is much higher in the socialized European countries. From “value added taxes to exorbitant gas and other energy taxes, the real taxation is much higher.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
    , @Onlooker
  37. Jake says:

    The motto of both Democrats and Republican Neocons and Republican Country Clubbers: Don’t Think; Don’t Ask; Pay Taxes; Vote for Us; Never Doubt ‘Our’ Filthy Rich; Blame ‘Them’ for Everything ‘We’ Call Bad.

    American Democracy, WASP created democracy, is a whore’s game. It is con artistry.

  38. @Anon 123

    No, there still is enough money even now to take care of the vast unemployed and underemployed class of people, WITHOUT further taxing those of us still working full-time and increasingly struggling.

    1. Place natural resources — oil, gas, and minerals — under public ownership. Distribute the proceeds from their extraction and sale as an equal dividend to every US Citizen. (As part of the grand bargain, make it MUCH harder to gain US Citizenship, e.g. no birthright citizenship and no chain migration aka “family reunification.”) This is a more thorough, more equitable national version of Alaska’s resource-funded permanent fund.

    How much do executives and shareholders of energy corporations profit each year off of our God-given natural resources? That becomes revenue available for all US Citizens as a universal basic income. (To minimize price/rent inflation, we can start the UBI very low and phase it in gradually over a period of, say, 8 years.)

    2. Stop the us government’s constant aggressive wars and occupations far from our borders, and close the majority of our bases abroad. Bring the troops home from Europe, Japan, and South Korea — they can guard our southern border instead, and the new bases will provide a sustained boost to the hundreds of towns around the new bases here at home.

    What if we reduced direct war, occupation, and foreign-base spending by $400 billion per year. Seems like a conservative figure. Here is a website that still has 2018 fed gov spending stats — and seems to undercount military spending — but a place to start:

    https://www.nationalpriorities.org/interactive-data/trade-offs/?state=00&program=14

    Of course, since we are borrowing a large chunk of the fed gov’s current spending, we should not simply re-spend all of the military savings. Allocate part to other spending, but simply don’t spend the rest (thereby borrowing less each year).

    3. The current federal “Alternative Minimum (Income) Tax” kicks in at far too low an income level. Conversely, the AMT rate is far too low for extremely high incomes. What a coincidence. Apply the AMT only to household annual income above $2 million, amply adjusted for inflation, but tax the starch out of the oligarchs and billionaires. Yes, they can be forcibly prevented from moving their assets and themselves out of the country. Bloomberg, Zuckerberg, Buffet, Trump, the Sacklers, et al., can be confined and their property confiscated as needed to pay the AMT on their income and a wealth tax.

    Even now, the money is there to directly help the American people with no increase in taxes on 99.5% of us, and with less fed gov borrowing than now.

    • Agree: Nonny Mouse
    • Replies: @Corrupt
  39. ld says:
    @Levtraro

    Cheap compared to the cost of healthcare in the US. No one goes bankrupt giving their child life saving medical treatment anywhere else but JUSA. 64% of bankruptcies are caused by healthcare. It would save lives and billions of dollars by wiping out useless insurance companies who provide zero health benefit.

  40. Jake says:
    @Anon 123

    But I suspect the core ingredient (never mentioned) in making their form of socialism work was having a homogeneous race, language and culture. And also in not having to endure the ever-draining financial burden of parasite welfare states such as Israel and Puerto Rico. Denmark might still be happy if they hadn’t thrown their doors open to mass migration.

    Socialism always causes problems, but the simple, and very obvious, fact is that the only way to have a chance to make socialism work for the masses is the above: the nation must be homogenous, and it must have no desire to be an imperial overlord.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    , @Mark G.
  41. @Rahan

    OMG. The Poles are demonstrating self-governance, having leaders reponsive to the people???

    Think what having such a thing here in the US could mean. No more public funds spent educating four year olds on trannyhood. No more Drag Queen Story Hour.

    We can’t have that. To fulfill the people’s needs, self-governance must be taken away from the people.

  42. Mike P says:

    I see no reason to believe that a third party would help – that party would be subverted just as the others. You can observe this live in several European countries – more parties, but one just as useless as the other.

  43. Mike P says:

    The entire idea of “representative democracy” is an anachronism and a fraud. The “representatives” are simply voluntary hostages. The quality of this sorry lot of volunteers has declined in inverse proportion to the ever-increasing coercion they are subject to. With modern technology, there is no reason why the citizenry could not vote on important laws or executive decisions directly.

  44. RudyM says:
    @sarz

    Bernie’s close associate Gabbard has been quietly talking sense on the border issue for quite some time.

    What has Gabbard said in particular that is so sensible? The best I’ve heard from her is that, well, we have to have some sort of control of our borders. But she is for another mass amnesty. I can see how that can seem “pragmatic,” but it is just an invitation for more large scale illegal immigration.

    https://www.numbersusa.com/content/my/congress/11623/gradescoresheet/

    Who is a closer associate of Sanders, Gabbard or AOC? Obviously the former can’t campaign for Sanders while she herself is running, and Sanders can’t boost Gabbard the way he has boosted AOC, but for the moment anyway Sanders looks closer to AOC than to Gabbard.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  45. RudyM says:

    To the onebornfrees of the world: one is born free to die without the assistance of others. One is born free if complete and utter dependence on others can be considered freedom.

  46. melpol says:

    Lack of hospital beds for those infected with the virus will be blamed on Trump. He will be accused of funding a trillion dollar military handout and neglecting the health of the American people. Trump will look so bad that Sanders can easily beat him. If the virus comes on big, Sanders will be our next president.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  47. Skeptikal says:
    @Mr. Hack

    ” Many of the “99 percenters” will have pause to reflect on whether they really want a 10% (or more) increase to their tax rates, especially if they’re gainfully employed making anywhere near the $100k alluded to herein. ”

    You still don’t get it. And maybe the voters don’t get it, either.
    This is what Bernie must explain clearly.

    First, the rich will be more heavily taxed to raise needed funds for a decent society.

    Second, increased taxes on workers will be repaid with plenty to spare in a reduced monthly “nut.”
    Primarily, health insurance premiums.

    Maintaining SS payments will also help the economy.

    The *real* economy. Since seniors spend their SS checks. They also spend on their children and grandchildren. For this reason, increasing SS payments would be a boost to the real economy.

    • Replies: @phil
  48. @Nancy Pelosi's Latina Maid

    Should have been more clear, all that “free” garbage in the list above is Real Bernie, vs. the “let’s just repair the roads” family-friendly Bernie.

    Socialism always ends up squeezing our turnips till there’s nothing left to give.

  49. rexl says:
    @Dutch Boy

    Where are the homeless from? Afghanistan, Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador? Imagine immigrating to the US just to become homeless.

    • Replies: @melpol
    , @Wally
  50. TKK says:
    @Mr. Hack

    And “socialist” countries like Sweden and Denmark require their average tax payer to fork over between 49% to 60% of their income in taxes. We’ll see just how popular and how far Bernie will go when Trump starts to point these little known facts out to the American voters.

    In truth, Trump does not know these particulars either. His speech writers will tell him. He is not a reader, nor does he have intellectual curiosity. He won because HC is repellent. And we were duped into believing he would actually stop the insane tide of moochers living here illegally.

    Further, I am already taxed at 40% being childless and unmarried in my income bracket. My accountant has to get creative with deductions. I receive nothing for this theft.

    I would far prefer healthcare as a benefit for the 40 cents of every $1 I earn stolen from me to pay for the underclass to become more obese and pay for their insulin, cell phone and rent. And the jolly cherry on the shit sundae-

    after they take my money they hate me because I am white. And on it goes.

  51. Thomas Luongo posed this question to Bernie:

    “You’re asking for the top job in the world and you can’t outmaneuver a broken-down, inconsolable twat who is the antithesis of everything you are supposed to stand for?”

    Bernie is faking another run at the democrat nomination the way he did in ’16. He has never been a serious candidate.

    https://tomluongo.me/2020/02/24/russiagate-claims-next-victim-bernie-sanders/

  52. Levtraro says:
    @Redneck farmer

    That’s contrived as an argument for unsustainability of government services a la European. Essentially you say that if USA military bases and personnel go home the European social network will collapse. It’s imaginative, I grant you that.

  53. Levtraro says:
    @RudyM

    Don’t be naive, Bernie will betray the AOC faction if he is nominated, just wait and see if/when (big if/when) he is nominated. It’s the obvious strategy at this point.

    • Replies: @Avis
  54. Arnieus says:
    @Mr. Hack

    Sweden and Denmark require their average tax payer to fork over between 49% to 60% of their income in taxes.

    Socialism seemed to work in those countries when they were run by whites for the benefit of the tax payers. It remains to be seen how long average tax payers will tolerate paying tax rates like that when the money is going to unskilled unproductive immigrants and they receive little benefit.

    • Replies: @Jett Rucker
    , @Anonymous
  55. melpol says:
    @rexl

    Being homeless in America is a good deal. Welcome Amigo to a cot and three hots plus a generous monthly check. Word of the good deal is bringing poor Latinos across the border. Protesters against the homeless influx are called Racists. Amigos and Tequila will soon be partying in our bedrooms.

  56. Anonymous[102] • Disclaimer says:

    The funny thing is how much money is being wasted now. Bernie is not even elected and the debt has nearly doubled. Its not the cost of Bernie’s programs that you should be worried about. Its the run away spending that is going on now. Ask yourselves, who is benefiting today and listen to the tools that tell you Bernie is worse. At least Bernie gives you something in return.
    Maybe it time you learn to think on your own. Bernie deserves the chance to prove you wrong.

  57. Anonymous[102] • Disclaimer says:
    @melpol

    Sounds like a good reason to move national healthcare and the CDC in to the military budget.

  58. Levtraro says:
    @anarchyst

    Dear fellow anarchist, it is good to have relatively low expenses in defense. I prefer my tax money to go help people in need so I don’t have the endure their misery and/or their crime. Also, European social programs are not “extravagant”, no need to exaggerate.

    If we have to live under a government, and we don’t have a choice in the matter realistically speaking, better make them spend the money they steal from us on the poor rather than on extravagant defense budgets.

    I suspect if the peoples had a say in the matter, the umbrella could be taken away anytime.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  59. Well said.

    Few Americans seem to realize that their political system is pretty much a set of theatrics disguising plutocracy and empire as democracy.

    Readers might enjoy:

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    https://chuckmanwordsincomments.wordpress.com/2018/07/22/john-chuckman-comment-how-american-politics-really-work-why-there-are-terrible-candidates-and-constant-wars-and-peoples-problems-are-ignored-why-heroes-like-julian-assange-are-persecuted-and-r/

    https://chuckmanwordsincomments.wordpress.com/2019/02/27/john-chuckman-comment-the-rise-of-a-dual-society-in-america-plutocracys-effect-on-democracy-resembles-a-top-predator-among-a-grazing-herd-an-interesting-video-by-tucker-carlson-someone-i-norm/

    https://chuckmanwordsincomments.wordpress.com/2018/11/29/john-chuckman-comment-unavoidable-flaws-in-our-press-government-press-relationship-in-the-west-americas-basic-structural-problem-is-plutocracy-and-its-empire-and-not-globalism-myth-of-tru/

    https://chuckmanwordsincomments.wordpress.com/2018/08/20/john-chuckman-comment-an-article-asks-whether-america-is-a-republic-or-democracy-the-historical-facts-are-clear-as-is-the-current-reality-of-american-plutocracy-and-aggression-and-world-empire/

    https://chuckmanwordsincomments.wordpress.com/2018/05/10/john-chuckman-comment-american-division-of-wealth-how-you-convert-a-somewhat-democratic-government-into-plutocracy-u-s-national-government-has-simply-ignored-a-basic-responsibility-for-years/

    https://chuckmanwordsincomments.wordpress.com/2019/12/29/john-chuckman-comment-when-facts-and-logic-no-longer-matter-how-americas-power-establishment-works-at-home-and-abroad-why-it-cannot-be-changed-by-americans-change-is-coming-though-from-outs/

    https://chuckmanwordsincomments.wordpress.com/2019/10/08/john-chuckman-comment-the-inevitable-deleterious-effects-of-empire-and-america-is/

    https://chuckmanwordsincomments.wordpress.com/2019/03/05/john-chuckman-comment-reflections-on-putin-as-a-leader-and-on-the-world-situation-in-which-he-works/

  60. Onlooker says:
    @anarchyst

    Such bold assertions not backed by the facts. In some European countries it is expensive but in many it is not. I am an expat in Europe having left North America and can accurately and with first hand experience attest that the good life is not so expensive. As for the benefits of the U.S. military presence, feels like an occupation, the kind of protection the mafia supplies. Many who write here seem to think in black and white without any shades of grey. There is not one good way to live and many do not choose an extravagant lifestyle but find satisfaction in tradition, community, family and simplicity.

  61. Asking questions like there is democracy to begin with.

  62. anarchyst says:
    @Levtraro

    You make an excellent point about defense expenditures, especially those coming from “uncle sam”.

    However, the way the world is, without the “American defense umbrella” protecting Europe, I would not be surprised of the European states would reactivate their old “squabbles” and end up in another “world war”.

    I believe that “the wrong side” won WW2 and made the world safe for “jewish supremacist zionism”, the yoke that we all live under today.

    Best regards,

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  63. anarchyst says:
    @Realist

    America has NEVER been a “democracy”, but is supposed to be a “Constitutional Representative Republic”.

    The true definition of a democracy is “two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner:…

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Twodees Partain
  64. Last night’s debate in Charleston, South Carolina was every bit telling: three Jews (2 billionaires and poor old Bernie with only a few million in his socialist pocket) and four shabbos-goyim (Biden being the most sycophantic followed by the “Fag of Malta” butt-gag and trailing them the two douchebags, Warren and Klobuchar). It’s all a big circus and the only thing that was missing was the Roman (proverbial) bread. So there you have it. It will be the Orange Cockatoo once again as the featured clown of the powers that be and get ready for the mother of all depression to be followed up by the hot WWIII, which will allow the Donald to be a tyrant a la Roosevelt with several more terms in the White House!

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  65. Avis says: • Website
    @Levtraro

    You think Sanders will flip, and you’re calling Rudy naive?

    Trump didn’t play nice about immigration on the campaign trail. Not in the primary, not in the general. He was pro-borders and he rode it all the way to the White House.

    Then he got in there. That’s when the establishment, which doesn’t want our borders enforced, rained hell down on him and he buckled. The same thing will happen to Bernie, and he won’t even pretend to resist. The man is an abject coward. He doesn’t have the balls to stand up to loons disrupting his own events, or even to call out Lizzie Warren for blatantly lying about him.

    If you honestly think there’s any chance he’s going to actually buck people with actual power, that can actually harm him, you’re beyond naive. You’re delusional.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  66. @Rahan

    Top-down, meet bottom-up. The globohomo oligarchs hate subsidiarity and locality. They’ll spend their zillions to do whatever it takes to crush it. They’ll also throw pejorative names at it such as racist, homophobe, racist, Nazi, racist, etc. etc., in an associated attempt to make the rest of the dumb, clueless brown peons hate it too.

  67. As the electorate has been dumbed down, their ostensible leaders have turned into blithering clowns to entertain them.

    When you consider that it’s only been about 75 years since WWII, the race to the bottom really hasn’t taken too long.

  68. “If you don’t vote you can’t complain,” so goes a saying. But the time for complaining is over. Since I do not vote and will not vote (I have removed my consent so to speak), I am not in the 99 percent. Since I do not seek power I am not in the 1 percent either. I seek truth…now what percent is that? I do not care, but truth seeking is the best percent. As the Who said,”Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.” Or rather, psychopath.

  69. Anon[263] • Disclaimer says:

    Let’s it be Trump again. Others won’t get voted anyway.
    做生不如做熟 We’d rather deal with the familiar one.

  70. @9/11 Inside job

    Number 6…and soon to be “Noahide-ocracy”! Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah! (Now if you want to substitute “Sharia-ocracy” just because you’re a Christian ZioShill…. go right ahead…there’s a reason there’s a huge number of guillotines somewhere in Georgia…)

  71. Wow! The first time I’ve heard an American speak basic political truth in a very long time. A great and honest analysis of the situation!

    I’m not at all optimistic about the outcome. But up here in Canada we have our own political mess to worry about.

  72. @onebornfree

    It is a criminal scam either way. Why the fuck can’t people see that? That is Hudson’s point.

    Pick your poison. Do you want the government (which arguably has power somewhat spread out) to be your poison or do you want oligarchs to be your poison (where power is in the hands of a few). I think the obvious choice for anyone who is not an oligarch is to put power in the hands of a government that at least has some possibility of spreading power between different classes of society.

    If you disagree, then you are either an oligarch, or an oligarch’s toady, dreaming that someday you might be an oligarch as well.

    • Replies: @onebornfree
  73. Levtraro says:
    @Avis

    So you say he will double-flip? That after flipping to pro-borders if/when he gets the nomination, he will back-flip to pro-immigration if he gets to be POTUS because of pressure from the establishment? It’s a good hypothesis.

    But then again you compare Trump’s path to Sanders’ path to POTUS-bliss when these are not comparable. Bernie has to double-cross his AOC faction which are rabidly pro-immigration while Trump had no such faction to double cross.

  74. Levtraro says:
    @anarchyst

    No need to worry about that. The large European states are tame now with regards to expansion and war. Some would join the USA in some adventurism outside Europe but a European war like before is completely off the table for the foreseeable future.

    A more sensible hypothesis is civil war against the immigrant population at some point in the next few decades ( I bet starting in Scandinavia). USA bases and personnel in Europe would be useful in protecting the pro-immigrant faction, you know, to destroy the ugly head of facism/racism raising up again, but I suspect that is not what you might want your tax money to be used for.

    • Agree: John Regan
  75. @Nonny Mouse

    ” If Bernie shuts the oligarchic vultures out of those countries, helps them to recover from American destruction, those refugees will want to return to their beloved homelands”

    Thanks for the laugh.

    And they say shit-libs have no sense of humor!

  76. @RadicalCenter

    The Republicans are the pawl on the ratchet of the Democrats totalitarian Come-along.

    • Agree: Twodees Partain
  77. @Anon 123

    But I suspect the core ingredient (never mentioned) in making their form of socialism work was having a homogeneous race, language and culture. And also in not having to endure the ever-draining financial burden of parasite welfare states such as Israel and Puerto Rico. Denmark might still be happy if they hadn’t thrown their doors open to mass migration.

    That would be my assessment also. Though I would add that in order for the socialism to work (at least in the short term), you also need a high trust society. And probably a population that is well above the global averages in such particulars as intelligence, conscientiousness and time preferences, among others.

    Unless the system is specifically designed to counteract this, it will still produce highly dysgenic fertility, which renders it unviable in the long term. Remarkably, the Scandinavians actually understood this when they built their welfare state, and included eugenics as part of it. Middle class parents were given monthly grants for every child, while criminals and the feeble-minded were forcibly sterilized. In fact, the Scandinavians sterilized a larger part of their population than the Nazis did with theirs:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilisation_in_Sweden

    As the Wikipedia article notes, the based Swedes even took especial care to sterilize that portion of the mentally ill population which is now sanctified as “transgender” in the US, which they apparently wanted particularly much to get rid of. One way to trigger Bernie Bros might be to ask them if he wants to copy that bit as part of his Scandinavian Socialism.

    • Agree: Mefobills
    • Replies: @Skeptikal
    , @Skeptikal
  78. Moi says:
    @TG

    I don’t have the link to the article, but some months back Ralph Nader wrote a piece saying Nixon was our last lefty prez. Nader wasn’t kidding, and I agree with what he said about Nixon.

  79. Wally says:
    @rexl

    No, typically illegals come here for all the free stuff at the expense of US taxpayers.

    And as many have explained, the illegals get more than homeless citizens.

    If illegals do get jobs, usually manual labor & ‘service’ industries, they receive under the table payments at the expense of citizens who already work in the same fields & pay taxes.

    • Agree: TKK
    • Replies: @TKK
  80. Anonymous[671] • Disclaimer says:
    @TG

    The big deal with Bernie, I think, is his donor-driven post-2015 change on mass immigration.

    He didn’t change his position. You and others misinterpreted his position.

    Bernie is a leftist and socialist. Hard leftists and socialists do oppose Koch Brothers style “Open Borders”, which is a policy driven and influenced by the needs and wishes of big business. As big government socialists, they don’t want corporations determining immigration and border policy, they want the large socialist government determining it.

    Leftist socialists are not going to be reflexively against immigration as right-wingers imagine just because they’re against corporation driven “Open Borders”. They are generally going to support refugee immigration, and support immigration if it promotes socialism domestically, which it clearly does in the US, and if it promotes the socialist cause internationally.

    Bernie’s base of support consists primarily of white leftists and socialists, and Hispanics, neither of which is anti-immigration. Moreover, strongly anti-immigration voters are for the most part right wingers or Republicans who will never vote for a socialist.

    Polemicists and reactionaries like Coulter are not acting in good faith when they proclaim they would vote for Bernie. They’re lying. What they really mean is that they hope Bernie would shift the Overton Window so that Trump and other Republicans can go even further right towards the views and policies that they really support.

  81. Delta G says:
    @Mr. Hack

    I for one would have gladly paid 50-60% of my income to taxes that were well spent and protected my family and myself from the Garbage of Middle American Life Today. But lets do a more careful examination of what that means for an American Family of 4 living on an income of $70,000 a year. When in most places in a median income.

    Health Insurance and Medical Expenses $10,000
    Private Schools instead of Garbage Schools (K-12) $25,000
    Automobile Costs (Purchase/Lease/Insurance/Operation/Maintenance Repair) $15,000

    So conservatively $50,000 which is 71.43% of the families income and none of which is tax deductible currently in the US. Nor does it include Taxes

    So if this Hypothetical Family had all of the Medical Costs covered by Government Health Care, had decent schools so they did not have to pay exorbitant costs of private school and later College Tuition and had a functioning Mass Transit and or at least subsidized transportation system they could easily save $40-45,000 of this family budget.

    So if they paid 60% of $70,000 or $42,000 they would be far ahead with some money left.

    The US Taxpayer has to stop feeding the PIGS which have been stealing them blind since the late 1950’s and raping them since 1975.

    The PIGS are stupid or they would not be PIGS. PIGS are never satisfied.

    I imagine there will be some degree of violence sooner or later to attempt to fix this mess. It is an unsustainable system and it will collapse or be torn apart one way or another.

  82. Cyrano says:

    Bernie is threatening to expose the delusions of the deep state in regards to multiculturalism.

    Prior to Bernie, the deep state’s not so deep thinkers believed that the phony socialism that they invented works on 2 levels. It portrays US as a liberal country and on the second level it scares those who have no clue about socialism even more away from wanting to have anything to do with socialism.

    The party slogan of the deep state – fake socialism is better than the real one – was never true, and with Bernie threatening to bring some of the real features of socialism to US, it will bring into turmoil the “brilliantly” constructed deception by the deep state.

    If US are going to get some real socialist policies, the question will emerge – do they still need the fake socialism that’s destroying them and the rest of the western world.

  83. Wally says:
    @Mr. Hack

    Bolshevik Bernie’s biggest problem is the fact that Americans are pleased with their lives.

    Most ‘better off financially’ under Trump than Obama: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/poll-most-better-off-financially-under-trump-than-obama

    More in U.S. Say They Are Better Off Than in Past Elections: https://news.gallup.com/poll/285593/say-better-off-past-elections.aspx

    85% of American workers are happy with their jobs, national survey shows: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/01/85percent-of-us-workers-are-happy-with-their-jobs-national-survey-shows.html

    New High of 90% of Americans Satisfied With Personal Life:
    https://news.gallup.com/poll/284285/new-high-americans-satisfied-personal-life.aspx

    Most Americans Still Rate Their Healthcare Quite Positively: https://news.gallup.com/poll/245195/americans-rate-healthcare-quite-positively.aspx

    Americans’ Satisfaction With Their Healthcare: https://news.gallup.com/poll/226607/news-americans-satisfaction-healthcare.aspx

    Trump in a 2020 landslide.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  84. It’s one thing for the oligarchy to stay in charge by controlling the narrative, the candidate selection process, and the outcome of elections. And yes, we are in a moment when the distress of the 99% is disrupting that status quo and provoking a civil war in politics and culture.

    What worries me is that challenging the wealthy by breaking the corporate narrative control and threatening an electoral revolt is a “soft power” kind of challenge. But what about the MIC and Deep State dominance? And the Israel Lobby dominance? Those folks, by the evidence available to us, and with the approval of the 1%, are unlikely to stand by and let something as limp as the electoral process disrupt their racket. They are not shy. If need be, they will kill any challenger to their dominance.

    So, while I see Bernie heading for an electoral win quite possibly large enough to prevent the DNC from cheating him out of the Democratic nomination, should he win the Presidency, preventing him from dying of “a heart attack” before his inauguration may well be a challenge. Paranoid? Maybe, but who can say? President Sanders may need an extraordinary level of protection just to stay alive.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  85. Agent76 says:

    There will never be brokerd convention because both private clubs made sure of that a long time ago. View listen and read for yourselves.

    Who’s Afraid of an Open Debate? The Truth About the Commission on Presidential Debates

    The Commission on Presidential Debates is a private corporation headed by the former chairmen of the Republican and Democratic parties. The CPD is a duopoly which allows the major party candidates to draft secret agreements about debate arrangements including moderators, debate format and even participants. The result is a travesty riddled with sterile, non-contentious arguments which consistently exclude alternative voices that Americans want to hear.

    The 2012 Debates – Memorandum of Understanding Between the Obama and Romney Campaigns

    Obama and Romney 2012 Debates Memorandum of Understanding

    https://publicintelligence.net/obama-romney-debate-mou/

    Sep 8, 2019 Rigged Debates, Media Smears, & Taking On The DNC | Tulsi Gabbard

    No matter what political party you belong to, we need to be able to hear a variety of political perspectives.

  86. Mr. Hack says:
    @Wally

    Wally, your fight isn’t with me, it’s with Delta G (see comment #81). You both seem like intelligent, articulate commenters here. Why don’t you two go head to head for a few rounds – it would be interesting?

  87. Sean says:

    As Aristotle noted already in the 4th century BC, oligarchies turn themselves into hereditary aristocracies

    Sounds like a reading of the thesis of Piketty, yet hereditary aristocracies must be endogamous and–if they are to keep wealth in the family–consanguineous, which does not have much appeal for modern elite, for sound genetic reasons. Also Water Scheidel show in his Escape from Rome: The Failure of Empire and the Road to Prosperity, the failure brought about competitive fragmentation and selection. Political, economic, scientific, and technological breakthroughs followed and allowed Europe to take off “It wasn’t until Europe “escaped” from Rome that it launched an economic transformation that changed the continent and ultimately the world. What has the Roman Empire ever done for us? Fall and go away”.

    Piketty himself was clear in his first book that the two world wars brought about a huge leveling of wealth. But cities were levelled too. Piketty went on to assert–in his second and even weightier tome–that a struggle for equality has been the great driver of human progress. Yet from doorstopper of Walter Scheidel
    the Neolithic long before the Bronze Age conquests, the “natural” human condition seems to have been inequality, while actual change to that condition often came in the aftermath of war (or plague and famine). Reduction of inequality by ideologically driven political change was often violent and ultimately at the cost of widespread pauperisation.

    https://www.brookings.edu/blog/social-mobility-memos/2014/03/14/the-author-of-the-son-also-rises-responds/

    https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/gregory-clark-response-chart.jpg?w=489&crop=0%2C0px%2C100%2C512px

    Studies of social status within ethnically homogenous groups show that genetics plays a substantial role in outcomes. Thus if elites and underclasses are drawn from parent populations by selective recruitment, they will differ genetically from the general population. It will take many generations for those differences to dissolve. This is not an “ugly” fact. It is not a “beautiful” fact. It is just a fact. This fact helps explain why it is so hard for societies using the levers of social policy to eliminate group disparities in outcomes. It is a fact that we should be aware of in thinking about inequalities of income and wealth.Studies of social status within ethnically homogenous groups show that genetics plays a substantial role in outcomes. Thus if elites and underclasses are drawn from parent populations by selective recruitment, they will differ genetically from the general population. It will take many generations for those differences to dissolve. This is not an “ugly” fact. It is not a “beautiful” fact. It is just a fact. This fact helps explain why it is so hard for societies using the levers of social policy to eliminate group disparities in outcomes. It is a fact that we should be aware of in thinking about inequalities of income and wealth.

    • Agree: Agent76
  88. barr says:

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/abc-news-suspends-david-wright-for-remarks-made-in-project-veritas-video-report

    Someone called himself a socialist ( in limited sense ) and the same someone did not say nice things about Trump ,his fate was sealed . Apparently that was from Keefe of Vertia Project or something and done as an ambush.

    So will Fox reassign someone out of its roster of campaign covering journalist if he or she says that he or she is capitalist and has hated Obama for doing certain things?

    This is where the Democrat is stuck. they have cornered themselves into an ideological hole where the very words communism and socialism ring hollow and sound unAmerican and unnatural.

    Democrat has offered the diet or lighter version of Republican all along since Carter . This might have worked when Clinton threw out Bush sr. But that was the media’s doing and was achieved by foreign powers working through domestic dummies and 5th columnists .
    Obama was a choice made by and at the upper tier to divert attention form anti war frenzy and to continue more or less Bush jr policies under new management.

    Sanders is introducing a radical break at many levels He is making the word -socialism acceptable in common parlance . This simple change is too much for the gatekeepers and the masters. Because they know from their own irresponsible anti American activities in the past – its not what one sees but what lies beyond . If sanders wins today, tomorrow some one more radical will shape the campaign of the future . This is why McGovern was hounded out of town by the father of Bill Krsitol.

  89. Ron Unz says:
    @Jeff Davis

    So, while I see Bernie heading for an electoral win quite possibly large enough to prevent the DNC from cheating him out of the Democratic nomination, should he win the Presidency, preventing him from dying of “a heart attack” before his inauguration may well be a challenge. Paranoid? Maybe, but who can say? President Sanders may need an extraordinary level of protection just to stay alive.

    That’s exactly one of the several reasons he should pick Tulsi Gabbard as his VP. The voters might finally get a little suspicious if she *also* keels over from a “heart attack” age 38. And the “Deep State” hate her so much more than Sanders, they’d hire an extra food-taster for him.

    Since today’s Democrats are so big on race/gender issues plus “military service,” nominating America’s first non-white woman as a VP and a war veteran would check all the boxes.

    • Agree: utu
    • LOL: Art
    • Replies: @Jeff Davis
    , @Justvisiting
  90. @Jake

    Socialism always causes problems, but the simple, and very obvious, fact is that the only way to have a chance to make socialism work for the masses is the above: the nation must be homogenous, and it must have no desire to be an imperial overlord.

    It’s actually more complicated than that because there are homogenous third world countries that haven’t gotten it to work.

    Capitalism hasn’t saved them either so I suspect both sides in the debate don’t really want to talk about race and put too much faith in their ideology.

    I’m open to new theories but I think everyone is lying about race. It seems rather odd that Socialists have to point at White countries as models while conservatives don’t like talking about poor capitalist countries.

    I am for national healthcare but I also think today’s Socialists are full of s— and privately suspect that race is a factor while publicly claiming that only stupid waycist Whites would think otherwise.

  91. Mark G. says:
    @Jake

    Socialism always causes problems, but the simple, and very obvious, fact is that the only way to have a chance to make socialism work for the masses is the above: the nation must be homogenous, and it must have no desire to be an imperial overlord.

    Socialism never really had a chance to work for very long in the U.S. because we always had a large black underclass. They were already a problem before the nineteen sixties but became even more of a problem after changes in the welfare rules during the sixties that caused more single black female welfare recipients producing future black male criminals and another even larger generation of black female welfare recipients. Combining these welfare rule changes with changes in the immigration laws to open up the country to third world immigrants and expensive imperial wars starting with Vietnam in that same era speeded up the process.

    The U.S. built up a lot of wealth in the nineteenth and early twentieth century free market era which provided the money to enable New Deal reforms which put in place a basic welfare safety net and decrease income inequality. Changes in the sixties I just mentioned and just the fact that the wealth previously created would eventually run out caused an end to this thirty or forty year period and led to the subsequent era of nonstop government deficits that will eventually lead to government bankruptcy.

  92. @onebornfree

    I talked like you for most of my life. You know what won’t work but not SPECIFICALLY what will work for more of us.

    What’s your idea for perfectly industrious and frugal Americans who still can’t afford good medical care? A generic “live healthier” or “rely on Charity” won’t cut it.

    You have any major health problems that require care? Ever need major surgery? Or do you figure somehow you never will?

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  93. @Rahan

    Much of Europe may go a lot farther than that against these deviants as Europe turns Muslim. One of the few salutary effects of Europeans surrendering to that religion.

    By the way, you can have a lot of fun walking around a homo-infested city wearing a “Kadyrov 2020” shirt during this election season.

  94. @onebornfree

    So what would you actually do about it?

  95. onebornfree says: • Website
    @davidgmillsatty

    “I think the obvious choice for anyone who is not an oligarch is to put power in the hands of a government” .

    Spoken like a true slave to the system. 😒

    You’ve obviously gone “full retard”. Never go “full retard”.

    “Regards” onebornfree

  96. TKK says:
    @Wally

    UNC Chapel Hill underwrites free medical care for NC Illegals, to includes expensive surgeries.

    The illegals know the play- show up to the Hospital ER, say you don’t speak English.

    A social worker appears. Illegals are shepharded to the front of the line. They receive a card called UNC Care. It’s the Wonka golden ticket.

    From there on, everything is free. It’s a bypass of Medicaid. Whites citizens who need charitable help must provide reams of exhaustive and hyper vigilante documentation, and if they own a busted up singled wide trailer worth $5K, they do not qualify for UNC Care.

    Could any country survive this?

  97. @Levtraro

    You mean the homogeneous white world? I’d love to have a country filled with mostly Danes, too. Wealth inequality is inevitable when millions of people incapable of gaining any kind of success in a modern European society flood the borders and leech off those productive members of society

  98. @Ron Unz

    Bernie/Tulsi is the only ticket I would vote for over Trump.

    I sent Trump to DC to burn the place down. Three years later the results are in: the Swamp drained him. That said, he started the revolution. Now comes 2020, and the next chapter.

    I still like Trump. He made some progress: destroyed Hillary. And I choose to believe he was sincere in his stated policy goals, but faced unprecedented obstruction — “Six ways from Sunday”. So I don’t blame him entirely for not achieving those goals.

    But for me, the top priority was ending the wars.

    So now, as Bernie takes up the revolutionary cause from the left, I’m waiting to see who gets my vote.

    It never occurred to me, but yes, the idea of Tulsi as an insurance policy is another very good reason to pick her.

    Will that happen? Will the Sanders team see that? Chuck Rocha and Nina Turner are the only Sanders team members I’ve seen in action, and they’re some wicked smart people. Or will they wuss out and pick a centrist? (Personally, I think Bernie is sufficiently revolutionary not to wuss out, and yet …)

    Then too, it’s still eight months till the election. If challenged, Trump could yet execute any of several winning plays: withdraw from Syria, Iraq and Afghan; pardon Julian Assange; declare his intent to replace Pompeo with Tulsi as Secretary of State. The list is long, and Trump wants to win.

    Interesting times.

    • Replies: @Wally
  99. anonymous[284] • Disclaimer says:

    Ironically the DEM party has become the Oligarchs party…the DEMs debased themselves abandoning the WORKING class long time ago. The DEM recipe for WHITE conservative deplorables is something like DETROIT model a former city the cradle of the Auto/industrial manufacturing is now a desolated city bankrupt, violence, dilapidated etc. This is the PLAN for all WHITE anglo saxon deplorables goyim…Illieterate, Unemployed, violent and give them all the (tax subsidized) drugs opiods, pornography, that their subhuman hallow souls desired…white genocide/…

  100. It is funny to read so many men say that Bernie doesn’t really mean what he says about open borders but that is just their psychological projection.

    If you are going to vote for a candidate you better believe what he is saying or you are not voting for him but for a mirage.

  101. Realist says:
    @anarchyst

    America has NEVER been a “democracy”, but is supposed to be a “Constitutional Representative Republic”.

    A Constitutional Representative Republic is democracy with lipstick.

    • Disagree: anarchyst
    • Replies: @Mefobills
  102. Skeptikal says:
    @John Regan

    “Though I would add that in order for the socialism to work (at least in the short term), you also need a high trust society. ”

    Surely socialism can mean different things in different societies.
    Has anyone determined the ultimate universally applicable definition of “socialism.”

    I don’t think so.

  103. Skeptikal says:
    @John Regan

    Hmm, so you are positing that everything undertaken in a “socialist” country is part of “socialism.”

    I don’t think so.

    That doesn’t mean that I disagree (or agree) with the actions undertaken in Sweden.

    I just don’t see that they are necessarily concomitant with “socialism.”

    I guess you are saying that socialism leads to freeloading via having more children than one can afford. I guess the reason for this would be to take over the host society—which would probably kill it, right? So why would freeloaders want to do that? .
    But in a high-trust society there won’t be any freeloading.
    People will have only two children in order that the next generation can enjoy the same benefits as their parents.
    Is that the supposition?

    I think that all of this is a hypothesis, or a clutch of hypotheses—not an axiom.

  104. @Nonny Mouse

    Taking refuge from what?

    Climate change, according to Bernies website

  105. There is no quandary. The US democracy has long become “one dollar – one vote”. Those who still believe that Dems represent working people should not take IQ test to avoid being deeply disappointed.

    • Agree: Biff
  106. Johan says:

    Democracy (and the ‘mass vote’ republic) is founded upon some sort of curious reasoning that all people should have a vote in the governing of society. This effectually means that mass man the mediocre will govern, because the mediocre is statistically overabundantly present. By some sort of reason, mass man the mediocre then becomes some sort of holy cow to which all should pay tribute to.
    At any rate, naturally those who are more intelligent, those who think and act bigger, and those who are more active and creative than mediocre man will again assume leadership implicitly in the long run. And why not, should they suppress their qualities and competences to declare mass man the holy cow fit to govern for all times? Nature distributes intellect and energy quite different than the curious construct of democracy allows to use, and it distributes it very unevenly… And nature cannot be suppressed in the end by man made constructs like democracy or a republic with a popular voting system.

    Mass man’s rule exists only temporary legitimately in order to give rise to new forms by destruction of old forms, mass man basically can only destroy. So democracy in the long run will naturally hit the dust, as elites, regardless of whether they are good or bad will take over, which is required anyway to bring about constructive progress (instead of destructive). Nature also demands evolution, which is only what elites (oligarchy or aristocracy) can bring about, Nature doesn’t like mass man’s conservatism, and small and incoherent thinking to rule for all times.

    In the time of emergence of a new elite, or a reformation of elites, they will pay lip service to democracy as long as it lasts. And in the last decades we are seeing that the emerged elites are more and more mainly paying lip service, while acting otherwise, they denounce all kinds of things
    which have come about through democratic means more and more, or they try to make these things look suspicious or problematic (while overall still paying lip service to democracy).
    So that the phase right now appears to be a competition among elites in order to determine who will take over explicitly. Aside of waiting for opportunities to increase control (never waste a good crisis).

    Democracy cannot turn the tide, mass man is by now not really a suitable vital candidate…, while he has enough ‘bread and play’ he has at large too little to complain about to risk his life and he enjoys a relatively comfortable situation, while disposing of an elite asks for great sacrifices, sometimes even his life. A coup by the army perhaps in collaboration with the police force might do the trick, but there might be too many trans-genders and women among these forces, just kidding here, or not.

    Another issue is that mass man the consumerist is no longer the main milking cow. Gigantic amounts of money have been earned from this by now somewhat decadent creature globally during the twentieth century, and from this money science has moved on, and technology has developed, and enormously influential power houses are formed (called: corporations). Their money flows unhindered and untaxed through the world through gigantic pipes at high speed, in quantities historically unprecedented, all made by investments in mass man, investments in a population historically unprecedented in size. While mass man was investing in what?

    So the amassing of more money and power by elites is now more and more a matter of investments in big futurist technology (intelligence) and futurist tech infrastructure. They have already made the minds of mass man relatively used to this through creation of tech cults and a whole materialist tech-futurist ideology, through their propaganda channels, of which mass man is a subscriber, the silly holy cow is even massively paying for the propaganda he gets fed… They are shooting more and more grid satellites into the air as we speak, ultimately paid from mass man’s consumerism. Some are there to role out even more advanced tech for mass man the entertainment consumerist. Others are big techs big investments, destined for other purposes..

    So, they, the elites, think big and smarter, and they have been and are investing in intelligence, and what has mass man done with all the riches science and tech afforded him? Buying smartphones and wide-screen tv’s, cars and porn, kitchen equipment, gaming tech and whatever consumerist tech, some investment in intelligence is that…

    So, elites, they think bigger, and they are way more active, in fact, their mouths are dripping from the prospect of power, luxury and wealth for them and their posterity which no king and emperor has enjoyed in any (known) historical time. No mass man doing a bit of boo-boo and complaining as a holy cow with holy rights will prevent their advancement.

    But don’t worry, they have more high-tech ‘bread and play’ in development, the holy cow’s tin can on wheels is probably going to become a lot more expensive to drive around in the whole day, some austerity there upon ya, but as to make up for that y’all are going to stay at home more, attached to screens more and more, to awesome images which they serve structurally for you. Which is little else than an advanced continuation of your last seventy years.

    • Replies: @Kim
    , @Jett Rucker
    , @rogibe
  107. Pft says:

    This is a fake wrestling match. The script has been written, trump for 4 more. The Dems are not seriously contesting the script. If they were they would have found a viable candidate and would have fired DNC leadership and distanced itself from Russia gate and impeachment. None of these candidates are electable.

    Like Trump they submit to the elites and Israel wishes. And Bernies as socialist as China, fake socialism, both captured by neoliberalism. On economic and foreign policy and military matters, they are no different than Trump. Different look thats all, like Coke and Pepsi,just 2 different flavors

    Which one actually wins the nomination is irrelevant.

    The party is dysfunctional, or at least doing its best to appear to be. Perhaps just for entertainment purposes. I mean, nobody could be as detached from reality as they pretend to be.

    So don’t waste your time with this. Better off watching reruns of classics where you already know the ending. The acting and scripts were far better than this reality cluster bomb, even if the picture quality is not as good.

    • Agree: Twodees Partain
  108. SBaker says:
    @Mr. Hack

    The Wall Street Journal’s James Freeman on Wednesday blasted Bernie Sanders for continuing to push far-left policies in the South Carolina debate, while ignoring fundamental questions about how the plans would be funded.
    “He is what he’s always been. He’s basically the angry, uninformed college freshman who never grew up,” Freeman told, “America’s Newsroom,” adding that Sanders displays “Marxist rage and envy” with no realistic proposals behind it.
    “The opponents kind of exposed it in different ways. You saw his Senate colleagues pointing out he’s incompetent, he’s never getting anything done,” said Freeman, assistant editor of the Wall Street Journal editorial pages.
    He continued, “You ask yourself, how can you propose turning upside down the entire health care economy, the entire energy economy … without thinking through any of the repercussions, the cost, how you pay for it.”

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
  109. Art says:

    But it would be dangerous to assume that the DNC will be reasonable.

    Please – the DNC is Jew oligarch money. They are never going to support Bernie. The Jew oligarchs have it good in America – they do not want to change anything. They want Trump or Bloomberg to keep the economy on tract. Bernie’s socialism would kill the US and world economy – period.

    We have a choice between a slow steady long term economic death with Trump, or a sure short term economic collapse and failure with Bernie. All those taxes and regulations that Bernie promises will stifle any real growth.

    There is no question but that the Jews have killed America’s corporate fiduciary culture. Pre Greenspan – corporations were held accountable for customers, employees, communities, nation, and shareholders. Today the Jews have overtaken our economy and changed it into a greedy money first, shareholder first culture – that must and will eventually die.

    The inferior greedy Jew culture must go, if America is to become itself again.

    • Agree: Jett Rucker
  110. Wally says:
    @Jeff Davis

    Bernie is a Castro praising Communist authoritarian who effectively wants government control of everything & everybody while flooding the US with illegals aliens.

    For starters Comrade Bernie demands:
    – Only government controlled healthcare, private insurance would be banned.
    – Only government controlled energy, which essentially means controlling the entire economy.
    – An unaffordable, unnecessary “Green New Deal” based upon absurd, debunked Communist fake ‘science’.
    – Taxes up the butt on everything, everybody,

    Actually given the impediments placed in his way, Trump has been remarkably productive. See my comment #83, plus:

    Appeals Court: Trump Can Withhold Funding from Sanctuary Cities: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/02/26/appeals-court-trump-can-withhold-funding-from-sanctuary-cities/
    Gallop poll: Confidence in Trump Economy Hits Highest Level Ever:
    https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2019/11/21/confidence-in-trump-economy-hits-highest-level-ever/
    Trump heads into 2020 with ‘historic’ judicial appointments : https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-heads-into-2020-with-historic-judicial-appointments
    “That brings Trump’s total to 102 federal judges confirmed in 2019. Over the course of his administration, that total jumps to 187, including 50 to circuit courts of appeal and two Supreme Court justices.”
    Trump’s 60-point accomplishment list : https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/media-blackout-trumps-60-point-accomplishment-list-of-american-greatness

    • Agree: SBaker
    • Replies: @Jeff Davis
    , @Biff
  111. Anon[140] • Disclaimer says:

    I wonder what our elites will resort to to stop Bernie this time?

    If conventional slanted media coverage/mega donations/and the usual dirty tricks like charging $3,200 dollars to attend the debate, ensuring the audience was filled with wealthy establishment cheerers and booers dont work, what then? It be kinda touchy to outsource the dirty work to the Mossad wouldnt it? Another heart attack perhaps? Bernie have secret service protection yet?

    The Bloomberg commercials on endless youtube videos, news broadcasts, and television get to be too much in my opinion. Its like “Hey Im Mike Bloomberg and I was a Republican Mayor but now Im a Democrat, and intend to be in every commercial break you see until you give up and vote for me”.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    , @Jett Rucker
  112. Johan says:

    “The alternative to democracy is oligarchy. As Aristotle noted already in the 4th century BC, oligarchies turn themselves into hereditary aristocracies. This is the path to serfdom. ”

    The last sentence is not the reasoning of Aristotle, but the conclusion of the writer. No serfdom is greater than that of our hyper-regulated mass democracy, with a state of regulation which knows no historical precedent, a subjugation to an army of thousand small dictators working day in day out, week in and out, month and year in and out to create more regulations and policies, and a public of voters demanding ever more regulations. Like Ortega wrote, leading to a state which gradually strips all flesh from the body of society. What lacks then is violence, but that is even worse, because the slavery is not felt in that case, one becomes used to it, to soft dictatorship, like a caged bird knowing little better.

    An aristocracy is small, doesn’t give rise to huge bureaucracies and states, and doesn’t consist of tons of petty regulators. The creation of tons of petty regulations, procedures and policies, ultimately creating a matrix like a cage can only be the work of the collective collaboration of masses of people, especially the smaller the mind is, the more regulations are demanded, the more the urge to interfere in everything. Even ‘evil’ aristocracies would not desire to occupy themselves with that. Ultimate serfdom comes from the people in a system with universal suffrage, as only they are ubiquitously present everywhere. A form of democracy which according to Aristotle was the worst of the worst, a convoluted situation of licentiousness on the one hand, and over-regulation on the other. A form of democracy which he was relatively favourable to is one governed by a very limited amount of people, who also have little time to engage in policy making, far different from a system with masses of politicians and armies of bureaucrats being full time occupied with government and regulations. Also governed by people who are not decadent city dwellers, overly rich and or prone to all kinds of unnaturalness.

    • Agree: Jett Rucker
    • Replies: @Mefobills
  113. Kim says:
    @Johan

    At any rate, naturally those who are more intelligent, those who think and act bigger, and those who are more active and creative than mediocre man will again assume leadership implicitly in the long run. And why not, should they suppress their qualities and competences to declare mass man the holy cow fit to govern for all times? Nature distributes intellect and energy quite different than the curious construct of democracy allows to use, and it distributes it very unevenly… And nature cannot be suppressed in the end by man made constructs like democracy or a republic with a popular voting system.

    Intelligence and energy are found everywhere. As are stupidity and sloth. And that includes among the ruling classes. And as anyone who has ever worked in a bureaucracy will attest, intelligence and energy are far from being required for anyone to rise to power and place in human societies.

    Rather, the indispensable quality required to achieve a position of power is to want it deeply, fiercely, and to be willing to do – even to be desirous of doing – anything at all, even the most evil things, to obtain and keep power.

    By name, such people are called sociopaths and psychopaths.

    And whatever social system we care to organize, as long it involves a population large enough to separate the rulers from the ruled so as to protect the rulers from the quick and deadly vengeance of the people (the size, say, of a small tribe) then sociopaths and psychopaths will always be able to insulate themselves from the proper consequences of their evil and we – those of us who are not insane – are always going to have to put up with them.

    • Replies: @onebornfree
    , @Johan
  114. if Bernie keeps telling that he will reopen the borders means he do not want to be president.

  115. Economic hit man Hudson knows all about weapons sales. Trump just completed another big fat deal with the Indians. This is certainly something Burn “Lockheed” Sanders is qualified to do. The Crown family, the Carlisle Group i.e the scum rich – determine who handles formalities.

  116. Biff says:
    @Redneck farmer

    They also have tend to have large budget deficits like the US, without the excuse that they have to protect Europe from Russia. Please note how much European leaders across the spectrum s*** their pants if the US acts like it’s going to seriously reduce its military presence in Europe.

    Duped by the Russian scare are ya.

  117. Anonymous[176] • Disclaimer says:

    Bernie Sanders is obvious fake opposition. He’ll either fumble and fold like he did last time or develop some “health concerns” at a crucial moment (before or after the elections).

  118. Jett Rucker says: • Website
    @Arnieus

    When would Swedish taxpayers ever be able to tell when their tax monies were going to “such people?”

  119. Jett Rucker says: • Website
    @Anon

    … it be kinda touchy …

    I’m reading you carefully (the way I think). Are you writing that way? Do you think that way?
    Wasting my precious time.

  120. Sounds like Mr. Hudson is endorsing Sanders, good enough for me.

    Man, the comments here are starting to look more and more like Breitbart. You folks really need to take a break from your hasbara, take a walk around in the real world. If your primary reason for voting Republican or Trump is immigration, you’re pissing in the wind. Welcome to capitalism.

    I’ll give the commie Jew a shot, he’s hated by more of the right people than Trump. I trust him more not to launch nukes on someone for hurting his feelings over twitter as well. Sanders was one of the few who voted against the Magnitsky act, as well as the sanctions idiot Trump has put on Russia.

    It is entertaining to read a whole thread of comments from people who literally sit around posting on the web 24/7 complain about socialism, free shit, and lazy people. Haha!

    You dudes seriously need to get a life!

    Hey Wally! How you feel about this gem? Article is even from one of your favorites, Ben Shapiro, so you can’t deem it “fake news” Trump even had his favorite homosexual ambassador do the dirty work for him. Sad!

    Trump’s ICE Deports NAZI War Criminal Who Stayed Under Obama

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/trumps-ice-deports-nazi-war-criminal-who-stayed-ryan-saavedra

    The Trump administration announced early on Tuesday morning that it had arrested 95-year-old Jakiw Palij — the last known Nazi collaborator living in the United States — at his home in Queens, New York, and deported him to Germany.

    “President Trump commends his Administration’s comprehensive actions, especially ICE’s actions, in removing this war criminal from United States soil,” the Office of the Press Secretary said in a statement. “Despite a court ordering his deportation in 2004, past administrations were unsuccessful in removing Palij.”

    “To protect the promise of freedom for Holocaust survivors and their families, President Trump prioritized the removal of Pali,” the statement continued. “Through extensive negotiations, President Trump and his team secured Palij’s deportation to Germany and advanced the United States’ collaborative efforts with a key European ally.”

    ABC News reported that “Trump told U.S. Ambassador to Germany Richard Grenell to make Palij’s deportation his number one priority when he got to Berlin.”

    In a font larger than the rest of the press release, the White House emphasized: “Palij had lied about being a Nazi and remained in the United States for decades. Palij’s removal sends a strong message: The United States will not tolerate those who facilitated Nazi crimes and other human rights violations, and they will not find a safe haven on American soil.”

    – See folks, Trump can get stuuf done when he wants too. He just doesn’t care about the things you want him to do.

    • LOL: niceland, Wally
    • Replies: @Biff
  121. Jett Rucker says: • Website
    @Johan

    WTF? Bread and play?
    WTF? You take up a lot of space.

    • Replies: @Johan
  122. Biff says:
    @redmudhooch

    Man, the comments here are starting to look more and more like Breitbart.

    You beat me to it.

    • Agree: niceland
  123. Mefobills says:
    @RadicalCenter

    I talked like you for most of my life. You know what won’t work but not SPECIFICALLY what will work for more of us.

    What’s your idea for perfectly industrious and frugal Americans who still can’t afford good medical care? A generic “live healthier” or “rely on Charity” won’t cut it.

    Onebornfree-dumb cannot answer your question. Libertarianism cannot answer complicated questions, because the ideology itself is bovine. It is caved in head thinking… or as Hudson says, “J” is for junk economics.

    With regards to medical care, it falls into the mixed market category. When you are healthy you can make wise choices, and under those conditions medical is price elastic. Or, rather it should be price elastic, but since prices are hidden from you by rentiers, then you cannot make choices about how your money is spent.

    When you are sick and infirm, then medical care becomes inelastic. You don’t care about price, you just want to live, and be healthy again.

    The government medical care crowd assumes that medical is always inelastic market – hence medical care for all. Libertarian free-dumb proponents assume that medical is always purely elastic mode.

    Both are wrong. Rent seeking and high prices are output due to this misidentification. Medical is mixed market, hence it is both elastic and inelastic.

    A mixed market solution is to figure out where medical switch points are; when your care is elastic and when your medical care shifts modes to become inelastic.

    My recommendation, which nobody cares about, is to have a bonded third party, who you pay for out of your insurance. It is mandatory to have an third party arbiter. This third party steps in as your advocate during times your medical care switches over into inelastic mode. This third party is not government, but your own trusted advisor, who you pay. In turn the third party is bonded and trusted also by the government.

    With regards to government, its job is to lower prices. It can do that by ferreting out rentiers – usually it is drug companies and individuals who are “stealing” with various schemes.. many times they are complicated schemes.. Libertarian theology gives cover and sanction for these thefts, as if they don’t exist.

    The second element (beyond bonded third party) is to direct spend debt free money from treasury into individual medical savings accounts. This becomes your money to spend and there are incentives to spend your money wisely.. and to also keep yourself healthy by making good choices. Average people will tend to make good choices if they know what prices are.

    With medical care for all, there is no price discovery, and no incentives to self medicate, abstain or be frugal. At end of life, medical car for all will have to ration care.

    The libertarian “tards” are correct about some of the above, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.

    • Thanks: RadicalCenter
  124. joe2.5 says:

    ” We have passed beyond the point of having a solvable “problem” with the Democratic National Committee (DNC). That is what a quandary is. A problem has a solution – by definition. A quandary does not have a solution. There is no way out. The conflict of interest between the Donor Class and the Voting Class has become too large to contain within a single party. It must split.”

    There is no quandary; there’s no internal conflict as you represent it. The Democrat Party (and the Republican, too!) is the Empire’s administrative organization. It exists to give the impression that elections are of any use and ensure the implementation of the ruling class instructions. It does not belong to, represent, or in any other way relate to any other social class than the Owners of the Country — imperialist monopoly capital. No exceptions there, even the New Deal was by order of the Owners. The “Voting Class” (beautiful name) have zilch to say. They are just the civilian version of cannon fodder.

  125. If Americans are going to choose a talking head to pretend to be their leader, can they PLEASE choose someone without that horrible jew accent? Whenever I hear Bloomstien or Sanderfeld speaking I just cringe.

  126. onebornfree says: • Website

    I see mofo Bill is back spouting his usual never-ending, “government knows best”, commie mind-rot, presumably for the imagined benefit of all the other legions of fools here suffering from the exact same mind-rot.

    Predictable but ….Yawn.

    Was wondering when he’d show up to support his favorite fake economist, Hudson, who spouts the exact same “government knows best” commie mind-rot.

    Such is life. And so it goes….

    Onwards and upwards ! 😜
    “Regards” onebornfree

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  127. @Ron Unz

    Sanders does not have the luxury of finding the “best VP”. He needs to win the nomination with a majority of delegates on the first ballot or he won’t be picking anybody for VP.

    His VP choice will have to get him the guaranteed delegates he needs to get over 50% on the first ballot–many folks are predicting that will be Elizabeth Warren (if she gets enough delegates to get that done).

  128. @Levtraro

    Since Bernie’s world view has already been implemented in plenty of other places, then life’s sorry losers are spoilt for choice for places to live and we need not repeat it here. People like me who don’t need or want the government to take care of them would gladly pay for their plane, train, boat or bus ticket to the awesome country of their choice so we can have one place on earth that doesn’t cater to worthless parasites.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  129. Wally says:
    @Levtraro

    said:
    “Many developed countries have substantially lower tax rates and they still provide what Sanders is promising (e.g. Spain):

    Wrong, Spanish socialism is a miserable failure.

    Is Spain finally done being socialist?: https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/02/is_spain_finally_done_being_socialist.html

    Socialism Now, Socialism Tomorrow, Socialism Forever — The Ruin Of Nations : https://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/socialism-ruin-nations/
    exc.:
    “Spain, says Moore, is just another one of those countries that “experimented with quasi-socialist governments” and has had to pay “the bitter price” for indulging in the exercise.”

    From Venezuela to France, Socialism Is Failing All Over the World: https://panampost.com/carlos-sabino/2017/04/27/socialism-is-failing-all-over-the-world/

    Why Socialism Is Still Awful Despite Its European Image Makeover: https://thefederalist.com/2017/11/13/socialism-still-awful-despite-european-image-makeover/

    • Thanks: Mark G.
    • Replies: @9/11 Inside job
  130. MBlanc46 says:

    It’s their party and they can choose their presidential candidate in whatever fashion they choose.

  131. SafeNow says:

    Bernie initially struck me as sharp, smart, agile; but then I realized he merely has command of a few dozen talking points, and the related jargon, and he adroitly defaults into this limited toolbox. Of course all of the candidates except Mayor Pete are limited in this way, but now we are talking about Bernie. I can’t imagine him in a cabinet meeting or the like, where he must thoughtfully deal with novel, complex issues. It won’t suffice to wave his arms, turn red, and shout about pharmaceutical billionaires.

  132. It is pure fantasy to think bernie has a chance against trump with modetates and independents. His open borders insanity coupled with his praise for commie dictators has already destroyed him completely outside of his lunatic followers. These people think wiping out billionaires is going to solve all their problems?! Newsflash a$$wipes: you could bankrupt every billionaire in america tomorrow and you wouldnt even dent the current deficit. Not to mention you all would still be broke lazy losers who dont want to contribute to society yet see fit to enhance govt power. Eff off you losers!!

    • Replies: @Mefobills
    , @Biff
  133. @Dutch Boy

    Maybe he’s just paying lip service to the open borders wing and would revert to his true convictions in the general election and presidential term, with a policy nod to the immigrationists by proposing more aid to Central America or stopping the dumping of cheap US grain there.

    • Replies: @Dutch Boy
    , @Anonymous
  134. Anonymous[352] • Disclaimer says:
    @Arnieus

    A reasonably high dose of welfare programs does work in completely white societies. They are cohesive, industrious, less prone to abuse it and the abusers are seen as losers which limits their breeding options.

    The problem starts when hordes of low IQ strangers enter the system. It becomes a breeding incubator for them and the clock starts ticking.

    • Agree: SBaker
    • Replies: @Mefobills
  135. Mefobills says:
    @onebornfree

    I see mofo Bill is back spouting his usual never-ending, “government knows best”, commie mind-rot,

    None of what I propose is not commie mind-rot. It is you who has mind rot.

    Commies wrongly want labor and the entire production process to be under government control.

    This creates a pyramid of power, where bureaucrats run everything, and if a psycho gets the levers of controls in his hands, then it is game-over.

    Libertarian-tards, like you, make pretend that all of life is two-way relations, and then look the other way while hidden psychopaths and rentiers maneuver the polity for their own self aggrandizement.

    The plain fact of the matter is that humans have three way relations with each other. Even small groups of humans pick a tribal chieftain or some arbiter to solve disagreements.

    Also, all economies are MIXED, and that means that government must be in its position within the economy to then lower prices. Government is the fourth factor of production, when government is doing its role – and its role is to supervise the commons.

    Just because government oversteps its role, and goes out-of-bounds does not make Libertarianism correct. Overstepping of bounds is a separate argument, but that is too nuanced for the simple minded – so some people can never be reached. The simple minded cannot be reached, especially if the simple minded are substituting thought with emotion.

    Conflating disparate arguments to build an ideology is nefarious stuff, which is why libertarian-ism is dangerous. It ensnares the well meaning, but simple minded. Usually, young people who “feel” things, are easy for libertarians to prey upon, because young people knowledge base is not mature. If they are low IQ, they may never mature.

    An example of water rights exposes libertarian-tard ideology for what it is. No small group of landowners are going to willingly let their land be submerged in a new lake, or allow a large dam to be put into place. It takes imminent domain to build out the commons, to then benefit common people with clean water. If you are benefiting now from the commons, which were built in many cases by your ancestors, then you are receiving a free gift from the past. They didn’t do it for their own benefit and with random human action… it was planned by a third party given legal power.

    The “tards” don’t have the answers, and their ideology is based on simple-minded false premises.

    There is no such thing as individual two way human action miraculously coming to some sort of panacea. There is no god in gold. Money’s true nature is law.

    Complex constructs like civilizations and economies have hierarchy and feedback nodes. This is so obvious it should not even require stating. How the hierarchy and feedback nodes are constructed is the real question. Lolbertarians should be laughed out of the room because they make pretend there is no hierarchy and feedback is through credulous human action.

    Hudson is actually an important figure who uses history as his guide. He doesn’t engage in libertarian a-priori false logic.

  136. Mefobills says:
    @Anonymous

    A reasonably high dose of welfare programs does work in completely white societies. They are cohesive, industrious, less prone to abuse it and the abusers are seen as losers which limits their breeding options.

    Bowling Alone by Putnam bolsters your argument. Putnam was a liberal who couldn’t accept his data, so he sat on it (his data). Eventually he overcame his own wrong-think, and published.

    It is actually worse than what you state. Immigrating of outsiders makes a society low-trust. As Putnam puts it, people “turtle” and hunker down. They stop engaging with their neighbors.

    The civilization becomes low trust, and people start “Bowling Alone.” The knock on effect is that volunteerism and gift economy goes to the wayside. The American experiment then fails.

    There is another aspect that liberals like Putnam are loath to admit. People are tribal and they want to extend their wealth to others who are like them. They don’t mind if their tax dollars goes to others who are their genetic kin. To admit the reality of race is a step too far for liberals.

    So, socialism can and does work in mono-ethnic white high-trust populations, like those of Skandinavia. The sort of socialism they created is not communism.

    Brown populations tend to produce low trust civilizations, and then they escape from themselves to go to a white high trust civilization.

    Worse, we have libertarian-tards among us, and (((predators))) who want these brown people as labor, to then strengthen their capital. The bad guys create ideologies that give cover and provide sanction for their hidden thefts.

    I consider the theft of high trust society to be a crime of the highest order. Usury is a word purposefully normed out of our language, but it used to be considered murderous sin.

    https://www.saddleback.edu/faculty/agordon/documents/Bowling_Alone.pdf

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  137. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Kim

    “And whatever social system we care to organize, as long it involves a population large enough to separate the rulers from the ruled so as to protect the rulers from the quick and deadly vengeance of the people (the size, say, of a small tribe) then sociopaths and psychopaths will always be able to insulate themselves from the proper consequences of their evil and we – those of us who are not insane – are always going to have to put up with them.”

    So…. “we” need even _more_/bigger government to make everything “better”, right? 😉

    Regards, onebornfree

  138. I believe the notion that Bernie’s nomination would assure Trump’s re-election is not accurate. We even have a recent big-name poll that shows Bernie beating Trump by a decent margin. Trump is not wildly popular despite the enthusiasm of his base supporters, and he has been unsuccessful at most of what he has attempted. His crudity and name-calling have grown into a source of embarrassment for many.

    Clint Eastwood, the actor and director and minor politician, is known to be quite conservative in his politics. He supported Trump in 2016, yet he has just announced that he is endorsing Bloomberg, going out of his way to criticize Trump for his inappropriate name-calling and tweeting.

    Remember, Trump is a minority President. His base is not large enough to elect him. That’s why he pulled in anti-war people not otherwise in his base in 2016, but he has sure let those people down.

    In Iraq and Syria and Iran, he has intensified hostilities, very much so in Iran. The American-supported Saudi Arabian assault on Yemen continues. He has encouraged Israel’s aggressiveness and has virtually promised it perpetual total control of the Palestinians, instead of peace.

    The recent agreement signed in Afghanistan represents almost no progress towards peace, and that’s if it even takes effect, something not at all certain owing to that county’s politics.

    First, the Taliban wanted an agreement with all US troops leaving, but the US refused. Second, the agreement only reduces US troops to 8,600, the number that were there before Trump. Third, even that reduction doesn’t take place until a year and half of “truce.”

    Trump could have set a schedule for pulling out all the troops, but he did not. Afghanistan is not and never was a threat. The US, despite its superior weapons and heavy use of bombing, has been stalemated by the impoverished Taliban who still control more than half the country. The longer the US stays there, the more chance hostilities will flare up again. Vietnam redux because the Taliban are the same kind of determined people the Vietnamese were.

    Unfortunately, I’m pretty sure the Pentagon intends to stay in Afghanistan for some time, considering Trump’s increased hostilities towards neighboring Iran and China, and Trump certainly isn’t going to oppose it.

    Trump enjoys bragging about the economy, but the truth is there are serious weaknesses threatening every major economy, including that of the United States, and Trump himself has only contributed to making them worse. Sanctions, threats, tariffs, reduced trade, higher consumer prices, and wars do not strengthen economies. Just the opposite. And neither does the kind of debt Trump is piling up.

    Bernie has a real chance of defeating Trump because Bernie inspires the young and energetic.

    If they turn out in good numbers, it can be decisive.

    Who else do the Democrats have? There’s absolutely no excitement about Buttigieg or Bloomberg or Warren or Biden. None.

    Tulsi Gabbard is a very attractive politician, but the Democratic establishment virtually exiled her from the race.

    The Democratic establishment is now working against Bernie with Bloomberg and Buttigieg, but they are not having a lot of success. However, if Bernie doesn’t secure enough votes in the primaries for a first-ballot convention victory, a brokered convention kicks in automatically, and establishment forces will almost certainly displace him.

    Bloomberg has pockets deep enough to buy support – that’s how he managed to get himself into the Nevada candidates’ debate. Given the clear bias against Bernie within the party’s establishment, Bloomberg will get all the official cooperation he needs. Hillary Clinton pretty much heads up that establishment, and she has made negative public comments about Bernie while he campaigned, an unprecedented display of hostility within a political party.

    Again, Bernie is not a socialist. He’s a progressive, and a very eloquent one. Trump is loud but about as eloquent as George Bush.

    Bernie would need his eloquence to defeat the predictable smear about being some kind of communist, but I’m sure he has it in him.

    It’s interesting that the re-emergence of threadbare tales about Russia interfering in American elections now contain the twist of Russia working to get Bernie elected.

    • LOL: Wally
  139. onebornfree says: • Website

    “The Strangest Thing about the Debate” [ but not at all strange to the vast number of writers and readers here, of course 😂

    “It struck me about one hour into what Politico calls “the snarling incoherence of the latest Democratic presidential debate” that was “painfully hard to follow.”

    What precisely was so painful?

    It was not what divided this gaggle of politicians vying for your affection. It was what united them. They all agree that their job is to have a plan for your life. This is the source of the pain.

    How did it happen that all these candidates have come to believe that it is their job to plan the economy, manage your finances, fix your job, improve your wages, get you to the doctor, get your kids educated, keep you off drugs, make you equal to others, give you climate justice, grant you vacation time, and one thousand and ten other things?

    That this is what they are supposed to do is not even questioned. And if you listened carefully, you will see that all of them agree that there is only one direction for government power: more. Everything without exception can be solved with more money, more power, more bureaucrats, more engagement, more plans, more intelligence, more focus.”

    https://www.aier.org/article/the-strangest-thing-about-the-debate/

    Mo’ gubmint, mo’ gubmint, mo’ gubmint…..And so it goes….

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  140. Bolteric says:

    This is a good diagnosis of the Dems terminal condition. I don’t quite agree with Bernie being the solution, and he’s voted for war almost as much as W.Obama has lead us into it. See his record of funding it. Also, it will take probably 4 or 5 cycles of Presidential elections to establish a third centrist party. I did duly note your criticism of so-called “centrism.” The question remaining: how infiltrated will centrism be with the problematic elements that define the other two, particularly the Dems (as G. Vidal says they are a bit prettier – save Bernie – and a little bit more corrupt – I don’t know if that was pre 11th Sept). The Libertarians might also have a key role in any party evolution.

    • Replies: @Bolteric
  141. Mefobills says:
    @onebornfree

    It was not what divided this gaggle of politicians vying for your affection. It was what united them. They all agree that their job is to have a plan for your life. This is the source of the pain

    Mo’ gubmint, mo’ gubmint, mo’ gubmint…..And so it goes….

    Jeez.

    Two brain cells available to rub together?

    The whole premise of this article by Hudson, is that Oligarchy and Rentiers form in civilizations, and that is where we are at now. Hudson also does good work on how a civilization must find balance, and generally that means land reform and taxing away unearned income.

    The “Bloomberg” phenomena is that of money trying to buy influence. The bought and paid for politicians are sock puppets for a government controlled by said oligarchy. Those of us who are able to reason things out can see the parallels with ancient Rome.

    Lolbertarianism does not codify the concept of rents and unearned income, and in Lol Lol land, what is happening today, cannot happen. Reality itself is exposing lolbertarians like you as spouters of false doctrine.

    People can see with their own eyes what is going on around them, and if somebody spouts an ideology that is out of alignment with visible facts on the ground, then that “spouter” will be ignored or laughed out of the room. Again, if people are forced into cognitive dissonance, to observe a reality at odds with narrative, they will reject that narrative.

  142. Anonymous[352] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mefobills

    Good post. I agree.

    The worst part is that an average low IQ foreign invader in a high IQ trust-based society can’t compete. He’s not going to excel in school, build a decent career from that foundation and convince the high-value local girl to make babies with. The same applies for intelligently outcompeting rivals in a (legal) business venture.

    Therefore, his best course of action is to actually cheat the host system.

    Hence the crime, rapes, welfare abuse and indiscriminate breeding are completely predictable and logical outcomes. Under the cold eye of natural selection, procreation reigns supreme and demographics are destiny. This also means that a sufficiently large low IQ invader horde has every incentive to kill their host population and only spare some women. This is not new.

    • Agree: Mefobills, SBaker
  143. dale ruff says:

    This article made sense until I encountered this fantasy: “. But the reality is that all the growth in GDP has accrued to the wealthiest 5 Percent since the Obama Recession began in 2008. Obama bailed out the banks instead of the 10 million victimized junk-mortgage holders. ”

    The Obama Recession of 2008. And wasn’t it Hank Paulson, Bushs
    Treasurer, who devised the bank bailout, arguing without it there would be a worldwide depression and riots in the streets. ” Obama’s role was to follow thru with the Paulson/
    Bush bailout.

    I can’t believe Hudson thinks we are too stupid to remember the truth.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  144. Mefobills says:
    @Generalissimo X

    Newsflash a$$wipes: you could bankrupt every billionaire in america tomorrow and you wouldnt even dent the current deficit.

    Newsflash for you.

    If the billionaires earned their income, then no problem. If the billionaires stole their income by taking rents and usury, that is a different story.

    If the billionaires use their ill-gotten gains to then issue a cloud of hypnosis through their owned media, to then further their condition at societies expense, then that is a real problem.

    Most rational people don’t like having smoke blown up their rectum, and then being told it is perfume.

    With regards to the deficit, with a (((debt money system))) such as we have, that is the only way new purchasing power can get into the real economy.

    Please study up on Wynne Godley’s sector equations. But, then again, I don’t expect normies to be conversant with how the actual money system works. Normies can be easily swayed and duped by propaganda. They conflate household economics with how a government works.

    Also with regards to deficit or public debts, they can be erased especially if you owe it to yourself. Pretty much all public debts on the books at the Fed can be ignored or erased. Yes, I know the FED is a private stock owned operation, but the TBills and paper on the FED’s ledger can be legally erased.

    Private household debts can also be erased easy enough, and there are reasonable plans put out by folks such as Steven Keen.

    None of this “reality” is actually part of political debate, because politicians are sock puppets for Oligarchy. They like things as they are, as they retreat to their gated communities to escape the low-trust society they created. Meanwhile Manuel mows the grass, while Maria cleans the house and gives good B.J’s

  145. Mefobills says:
    @dale ruff

    Where is the fantasy?

    Hudson was one of the few economists to predict the housing bubble. He also recommended against the policy of bailing out the banks and then subsequent QE.

    He was right on all counts.

    Hudson also has resurrected classical economics, which has the tools to analyze housing bubble economics.

    Housing bubble was not fantasy. Housing prices were pushed by making bank credit too easy. NINJA loans (no income, no job) were given out like candy. The rating agencies were in on the take.

    Insurance worked to get in on the game, especially with Graham Leach Bliley act. All of this was done before Obama.

    Subsequent QE, kept the bad debts in place, and then pushed finance asset prices – making the stock market inflate to then destroy pricing signals. This is where we are still at today, as if people cannot learn.

    But, since Obama was the first Jewish president, being run by Chicago Jewish mob money, he protected his bankster clients rather than the economy.

    • Replies: @Generalissimo X
  146. Dutch Boy says:
    @Lockean Proviso

    Possibly but it seems he is getting a lot of Latino support now and he might be loathe to cut off that spigot.

  147. Mefobills says:
    @Realist

    A Constitutional Representative Republic is democracy with lipstick.

    The U.S. republic failed.

    It especially failed by 1912. The 16’th, 17’th, Federal Reserve Act, and IRS were all installed as gears to a machine, which converted the U.S. to a democracy. Universal Suffrage voting pushed the dead republic carcass over into its grave.

    Democracies are easy to maneuver, as the average voter can be easily duped. Bloomberg’s money buying his way into the election process should be evidence enough for even the most unaware and low thinking type of people.

    After the 17’th, Federalism was destroyed. Today, Senators are lackeys for their owners, as they are no longer beholden to their states. The founders never intended Senators to be elected.

    Ergo… the U.S. is NOT A REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC. Senators represent their owners, and in my opinion they should wear patches like NASCAR drivers, and maybe also a star of david for AIPAC.

    • Agree: Realist
  148. SBaker says:
    @Mr. Hack

    Like every communist sociopath, BS is driven by envy and ingratitude. He is a deep state politician with 40 years of feeding off the taxpayers, while spending his greed-driven energy thinking of new ways to steal the labor of others for personal gain and power. This greedy little man is a menace to US citizen taxpayers if ever there was one. Who will support him if he gets the nomination: 100% of welfare recipients, irresponsibly indebted people, 90% of Africans, 90% of muslims, 70% Hispanics, 98% of illegal aliens, and 80% of the jewish population.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  149. @Wally

    “Bernie is a Castro praising Communist authoritarian who effectively wants government control of everything & everybody..”

    This is your brain on anti-communist brain-rape, courtesy of the IC, the MIC, Joe McCarthy and JE Hoover. The Commies are 30 yrs gone. Your brain-damage is outdated. Recover your mental autonomy if you can and try to catch up.

    • LOL: Wally
  150. mallik says:

    I think Hillary hates Bernie at heart and sometimes expresses that too and so as long as she has some hold on DNC, it is very difficult for Bernie to be sponsored as a Dem candidate.

  151. Mr. Hack says:
    @SBaker

    I don’t think it’s possible to get the kind of turnout that you’re indicating for these minority subsets. For them, Bernie will just be another old white guy spewing out his own brand of BS that will never get inacted into law – and these minorities have been bamboozled by plenty of politicians in the past. Most of them will stay home and open up another can of suds and call it a day.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  152. Anonymous[352] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lockean Proviso

    Man, I still remember the times when people were hoping that their chosen political representatives weren’t lying to them during elections.

    We’ve come a long way.

    • LOL: Lockean Proviso
  153. @Mr. Hack

    Bernie isn’t hiding anything — details of his programs and how he intends to pay for them are all spelled out online: https://berniesanders.com/issues/how-does-bernie-pay-his-major-plans/

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    , @Sick of Orcs
  154. @Wally

    Whenever a Socialist comes to power ,whether it is in Europe or South America , their attempts to improve the lives of working people are subverted by US intelligence , military , corporate and banking interests . For example , as soon as Chavez came to power in Venezuela the US tried to remove him in a military coup and in Chile the US did remove Allende in a military coup. Today the US is trying to bring Maduro down in Venezuela by sanctions and lawfare . If Bernie Sanders becomes the Democratic party nominee , we will be subjected to more stories about how socialism has been a failure in Venezuela , a failure which our plutocrats have deliberately engineered .

    • Agree: Cyrano
  155. @Mr. Hack

    Yup. Elections are won and lost on turnout–at least as much as policy.

    If more of your voters turn out than the other candidate’s voters you win.

    It is turnout that is the most difficult for polls to predict, and that is why they can be very unreliable.

    (That is why much of the policy discussion around here is amusing–reminds of my college dining hall days…totally irrelevant to an actual election.)

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  156. Cyrano says:

    I think that Bernie is flirting with disaster. To declare yourself a socialist in a country that has snuffed any “regime” that even faintly smells of socialism since WW2 is both brave and dangerous. If elected it’s a big question mark whether Bernie will be allowed by the deep state to implement any of his “socialist” policies. That’s why the fake socialism – multiculturalism – was invented in the first place, so no real socialist policies will ever have to be introduced. Here is how it all started:

    In the 1960’s, the capitalist scientists discovered that all proles have a defective gene which makes them yearn for socialism. Luckily, the capitalist scientists also discovered that due to low IQ, this socialist gene in the proles can easily be fooled with fake socialism – and thus eliminate the yearning for real socialism.

    Never mind that the fake socialism does much more damage than the real one – to country, nation, civilization, but luckily it doesn’t touch the God of all institutions – capitalism, so the fake socialism will be allowed to continue to wreak havoc until it destroys everything except that most venerable of all institutions – capitalism. Is that smart or what? The capitalist scientists really outdid themselves on that one.

  157. @Really No Shit

    I have said it many times already, Andrew yang was the only candidate with any chance of beating trump. He actually addresses the issues that got trump elected.

    Trump gets another 4 years now that yang is gone.

    • Replies: @Really No Shit
  158. Mr. Hack says:
    @donnasaggia

    Well, it’s too bad that he couldn’t mostly remember the costs himself during the last debates that I watched. He said that he didn’t know exactly and couldn’t add them all up to estimate the exact “dollars and cents”. He couldn’t even provide round figure estimates, except for healthcare costs that he stated would be around 10 trillion extra from what it is today. Biden, I believe immediately jumped on that figure and said that in reality it would be closer to 30 trillion. He’s at least smart enough to not specifically state how much he intends to raise taxes to fund all of these programs., It appears that he really doesn’t have a good command of the figures, which is probably good enough for his base of college students, who probably only want to hear “free tuition.”

  159. The demoshits aren’t going anywhere. The hordes of orcs, punjabs, dog-diners, goblins, trogs etc. keep flooding in, legally or not. 90% of them vote gibsocrat and retardicans don’t seem to care.

    I look forward to secession and revolution. They are needed. Too much pissing on the human spirit the last 20 years.

  160. Biff says:
    @Generalissimo X

    His open borders insanity coupled with his praise for commie dictators has already destroyed him completely outside of his lunatic followers.

    So says the television.

  161. Biff says:
    @Wally

    Bernie is a Castro praising Communist authoritarian who effectively wants government control of everything & everybody

    Just like now!

    • Replies: @Wally
  162. Anon[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Also want to add as to how easy it is to flip the election results in deciding who wins or loses.

  163. @donnasaggia

    Bernie isn’t paying for any of his schemes. WE ARE.

  164. @Mefobills

    Get back to me when cheetoh crushes bernie like reagan did mondale. Hudson’ s teack record wont save him from this nonsense.

    • Agree: Mefobills
  165. @Astuteobservor II

    In a society enamored with the “Hollywood” sponsored mulatto culture showcasing trunks with a whole lot of junk in it would rather vote for bimbos like the Kardashians than a smart dude like Yang.

  166. Wally says:
    @Biff

    Nope, definitely not “just like now”. You haven’t seen anything yet.
    i.e.:
    – Just wait until you only have Communist controlled healthcare.
    – Just wait until illegal aliens get free healthcare, food, jobs at citizens expense thanks to Communism.
    – Just wait until everyone, including illegal aliens gets “free” college, at all others expense.
    – Just wait until you have no energy without Communists controlling it.
    With Communist control of energy Bolshevik Bernie will have control of virtually everything.
    – Just wait until you no longer have choices, a la the former USSR, Bernie’s favorite; beside Fidel’s Cuba that is.

    Communism: The most failed system of governance the world has ever seen.
    recommended:
    Bernie’s / Communists lies about Castro’s Cuba:
    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/02/remember_when_they_were_called_communists.html

  167. @anarchyst

    It’s actually, “Two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner”.

  168. @Justvisiting

    So, you still think that all the votes are counted and the one with the most votes wins? What are you, in the fourth grade?

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Justvisiting
  169. @Gleimhart Mantooso

    It’s not just life’s “losers” who are increasingly struggling to keep up with housing and medical costs. You are either out of touch with the nature of many such people, or just a heartless bastard. Maybe both.

    Good you’re so confident that your family will never need help.

    • Replies: @TheSkepticalCynic
  170. roonaldo says:

    As elections approach, aka “Trainwreck 2020,” we search in vain for someone about whom we may hope:

    “Turn him to any cause of policy,
    The Gordian Knot of it he will unloose,
    Familiar as his garter, that when he speaks,
    The air, a chartered libertine, is still.”
    –Shakespeare, Henry V

    And so begins the pre-election countdown:

    Quandary….check; Conundrum….check;
    Clusterfuck….affirmative;
    SNAFU if we do….roger that;
    FUBAR if we don’t…okeydokey.

  171. @RadicalCenter

    It’s not his heart that is missing! It’s cerebral hemispheres.

  172. phil says:
    @Skeptikal

    Junk economics. Spending does not enrich societies on a long-term basis.

    The marginal income tax rate in Denmark hits 60 percent for the middle class. Denmark’s average living standards are significantly lower than in the US despite having a bigger percentage of ethnic Europeans. It would have a much worse situation if more than 25 percent percent of its population were black or Hispanic.

    The household income distribution in the US will become increasing skewed as blacks, Hispanics, and unmarried whites become a majority of the adults.

    • Replies: @Nonny Mouse
  173. @phil

    The word “average” you use is misleading in this context. The statistics tell us the median, and that, not the average, is what counts. This island I live on has 1000 inhabitants. My income is $999 short of a million dollars a day. Everyone else here earns $1 per day. That makes the average income for us islanders $1000 per day. But our median income is $1 per day and only one person in 1000 earns more. Skewed, yes. Not only here, everywhere. To talk of the average income is outlandish when the distribution is always enormously skewed.

  174. Wally says:
    @Twodees Partain

    “It’s not the people who vote that count, it’s the people who count the votes.” -Joseph Stalin

    And then there’s election / voter fraud.
    BTW, Trump did carry the majority, easily:

    Massive voter fraud: U.S. Election Meddling: Nationwide Voter Fraud, Importation of 15M Foreign-Born Voters: https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/07/19/foreign-born-voters-voter-fraud-election-meddling/

    Michigan Recount Exposes Clinton Electoral Fraud: Half of Detroit Votes Show Signs of Tampering, Votes in Hillary-heavy Detroit may have been counted up to 6 times: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/12/no_author/hillarys-electoral-fraud/

    Democrat Political Machine Built’ on ‘Reliance of Illegal Votes’: https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/08/09/exclusive-eric-eggers-democrat-political-machine-built-on-reliance-of-illegal-votes/

    12 Staffers At Dem-Linked Group Charged With Voter Fraud: http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/09/12-staffers-at-dem-linked-group-charged-with-voter-fraud/

  175. @Twodees Partain

    In elections where there is cheating, policy discussions are even _more_ irrelevant!

  176. rogibe says:
    @Johan

    Sir, I agree with and would like to ask you many many questions.

    Roger Adams

    • Replies: @Johan
  177. Mefobills says:
    @Johan

    “The alternative to democracy is oligarchy. As Aristotle noted already in the 4th century BC, oligarchies turn themselves into hereditary aristocracies. This is the path to serfdom. ”

    The last sentence is not the reasoning of Aristotle, but the conclusion of the writer.

    I will let the reader decide who is more accurate – you or Hudson:

    http://www.preservearticles.com/articles/brief-notes-on-aristotles-classification-of-states/6967

    Cycle of State:

    Aristotle further believes that all the states go through a cycle of revolutions. The state began with the establishment of monarchy which was the virtuous rule of a single man. Though after some time such a virtuous man could no longer be produced yet the rule of one man remained and his power was maintained by force.

    It was tyranny or despotism. It was replaced by aristocracy by means of a revolution. The spirit of aristocracy also began to degenerate and was replaced by oligarchy. By a popular uprising, oligarchy was turned into polity which soon degenerated into democracy, a sort of mob-rule.

    Out of darkness, then, again arises the supremely virtuous man, some Caesar who restores law and order. The cycle is completed and begins all over again.

    • Replies: @Johan
  178. Johan says:
    @Mefobills

    ” aristocracy also began to degenerate and was replaced by oligarchy”

    The situation in which we find ourselves consists of the long term degeneration of aristocracy, while their rule was gradually replaced by mob rule (democracy) The aristocracy on the long term degenerating, and the gradual formation of an oligarchy within the democratic systems (this oligarchy is the topic of all contemporary conspiracy theories, of thinkers who think democracy will last forever..).
    The rule of mass man during the twentieth century has also lead to the development of a new power, the merchant class, or in modern terms, the commercial class, these are today known as the all powerful corporatism. Corporations are today the most powerful among the oligarchy, more powerful than nobility (if anything left) and religious powers, even often the latter being subservient to the commercial class (which includes of course the US silicon valley tech corporations).

    It should be noted here that our contemporary democracies with universal suffrage is Aristotle’s worst nightmare. The kind of democracy which he evaluated to be relatively the least prone to massive decline is one governed by a relative minority, of healthy people who lived outside of the city only coming together sparsely in order to decide on policies.

    Serfdom, democracy is serfdom to mediocrity and mob rule, oligarchy is serfdom to a lower type of elites than aristocracy. Aristocracy on the other hand, while mostly having misbehaved and having abused their position, can consist of a benevolent nobility, as the renaissance and the enlightenment (flourishing of art and science) are per definition the works of a small part of the recent historical aristocracies. All of the improvements brought about in the nineteenth and twentieth century are a product of the impulse from a small part of these historical aristocracies. Art and science (and tech) in the hands of an oligarchy like our modern corporatism is a recipe for disaster though, as some conspiracy theorists already are warning about. Hence, if this lowest form of elite, the contemporary corporate oligarchy would evolve into hereditary aristocracies, it would mean they would be raised to nobility and become cultured, instead of remaining at their current status, which is that of semi-barbarism.

  179. Johan says:
    @Kim

    “And as anyone who has ever worked in a bureaucracy will attest, intelligence and energy are far from being required for anyone to rise to power and place in human societies”

    The bureaucratic forces are lower in intelligence and energy, they consist of ordinary mass man who has risen slightly upward through some higher but minor level of education, they are indeed often automaton executers, devoid of active intelligence. A man of energy is not fit to make a bureaucracy, bureaucracies per definition consist of a multitude of just above average man, they execute what the energetic and bigger thinking man commands, in as far as the latter is even concerned about petty regulations. The man of intellect and energy these days is mostly to be found high up in the ranks of corporations, often alternating between jobs high up in the ranks of politics, ideological institution and corporations. Corporate power makes up the bigger part of the oligarchy in our contemporary democracies. Their intelligence is very one sided, semi-barbarian, they are actually the lowest form of elites (far below aristocracies), but their energy and capacity of big thinking is far above that of mass man, and that of bureaucratic man (the latter being per definition small minded, dependent and non adventurous/risk taking in comparison).

  180. Johan says:
    @rogibe

    Question and answer is not the type of thing here though. Structural views which defy contemporary ruling views which are all the product of contemporary ideology require a totally disattached view which is hard to convey, and even, a news medium is not the best place for it.

  181. Johan says:
    @Jett Rucker

    ‘You take up a lot of space’

    Actually contemporary oligarchy is increasingly aware that mass man takes up at lot of space… haha.

  182. Corrupt says:
    @RadicalCenter

    “How much do executives and shareholders of energy corporations profit each year off of our God-given natural resources? That becomes revenue available for all US Citizens as a universal basic income.”

    So you’re OK with me stopping by your house and chopping down a few trees, as “our God-given natural resources” could be processed into lumber and paper to distribute throughout the nation?

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