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“Welcome to America, the Land of Freedom”, read the signs at Washington, DC’s international airport as you line up to have your fingerprints taken and your body cavities searched for mini nuclear devices.

I could have titled this article “Setting the Cat among the Pigeons”. In an attempt to forestall the expected avalanche of disagreement, I confirm my awareness of statistics produced by a wide range of individuals and institutions of widely-varying intent and ideology, and which can “prove” almost anything one cares to prove, GINI coefficients being one easy example. The statistics on which this article is based were not selected carelessly and are not invalidated by a reader’s disaffection.

The United States Is the Best Only at Being the Worst

The US today has the greatest income inequality of all Western nations[1]Income inequality in the United States; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_inequality_in_t...States[2]US income inequality | US news | The Guardian; https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/us-income-inequality, surpassing China and more than a few undeveloped nations as well. From this, it has the lowest social mobility of most nations[3]The Decline of Social Mobility in America – The Atlantic; https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/07...491240, meaning that improving one’s station in life is becoming increasingly impossible. If your parents are not educated and wealthy, you will never be either, and the American Dream is dead. The US today has the smallest middle class and the largest lower class of all major nations, the middle class having been mostly eviscerated in 2008, that process completing itself today, and will probably never now recover. Americans carry the largest amount of personal debt among all nations[4]Total US household debt soars to record above $13 trillion; https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/13/total-us-household-d...n.html, including credit card debt and increasingly unrepayable student loans, and the US now leads the world in personal bankruptcies[5]https://www.debt.org/bankruptcy/statistics. Since 2008, according to the US government’s own statistics, the US has the lowest percentage of home ownership at 57%[6]October 29, 2019; https://www.census.gov/housing/hvs/files/currenthvsp...ss.pdf, ranked 43rd in the world, far below China at 90%[7]China Home Ownership Rate | 2019 | Data | Chart | https://tradingeconomics.com/china/home-ownership-rate, and America now has a virtual epidemic of homelessness compared to most other nations, with untabulated millions of homeless families with children.

The poverty rate in the US is extraordinary, with official statistics placing this number at 13% but in reality with more than 25% of the population living below the poverty line, in most cases far below[8]The official U.S. poverty rate; https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/09/16/of...etric/. It also has the highest percentage of children living in poverty, and with almost a third of all US citizens dependent on food stamps and other government aid to survive[9]One-Third of US Population Gets Food Subsidies; https://www.newsmax.com/US/food-stamps-assistance-pr...513860. Unemployment is also extraordinary. According to the government’s own statistics, fully 40% of working-age Americans have no job[10]The real jobs numbers: 41% of America unemployed, 1 in 3; https://www.rt.com/usa/jobs-us-employment-welfare-749[11]Shocker: 40% of Workers Now Have ‘Contingent’ Jobs; https://www.forbes.com/sites/elainepofeldt/2015/05/2...nment/, with many of the rest under-employed, working only part-time. It is only American cities or those in the most impoverished of nations that contain such vast areas of urban decay and desperate slums like those of Detroit and Chicago, where half of the areas are violent crime-ridden wastelands where no one goes.

The US has the highest educational costs, and yet the poorest overall quality of education in the developed world and parts of the rest. Read this article[12]https://www.unz.com/lromanoff/substandard-education-...erica/. It will open your eyes. A few good schools or universities in an entire nation do not make it a world leader, the proof residing in the highest level of functional illiteracy of all major nations (25%) and a truly legendary level of ignorance[13]https://www.globalresearch.ca/brief-look-substandard...694267. The US is the only country in the world where, in repeated polls for the past 60 years, a full 75% of the adult and student populations cannot find their own country on a map of the world[14]Ibid
(https://www.globalresearch.ca/brief-look-substandard...694267)
. Compared to other nations, the US has the highest health care costs by a factor of two to ten, and yet has a surprisingly poor overall quality as well as the highest percentage of a population without health care[15]Americans without health insurance; https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/16/americans-without-he...p.html. The US has the highest infant mortality rate and the shortest life expectancy at birth of all major nations and far below many others[16]Infant Mortality; http://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/MaternalInfan...ty.htm[17]U.S. Infant Mortality Rate 1950-2019; https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-sta...y-rate, ranking around 50 in a list of countries. The US has the highest obesity rate of all nations, with nearly half of the population being overweight[18]Adult Obesity Facts; CDC; https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html, one of the highest rates of sexually-transmitted diseases[19]America’s sexually transmitted disease rates are out of control; https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/americas-se...AIAW4M, of anti-depressant drug use that increased by 65% in only 15 years[20]U.S. Antidepressant Use Jumps 65 Percent in 15 Years; https://consumer.healthday.com/mental-health-informa...6.html, a national crisis in opioid drug use[21]Opioid Crisis Statistics | HHS.gov; https://www.hhs.gov/opioids/about-the-epidemic/opioi...istics and of depression. It has the highest teen-age pregnancy and abortion rates of all developed nations[22]Teen Pregnancy Rates Declined In Many Countries; https://www.guttmacher.org/news-release/2015/teen-pr...d-2011, and one of the highest divorce rates[23]Marriage and Divorce; https://www.census.gov/topics/families/marriage-and-...e.html[24]“Coming out of the penumbras: World culture and cross-national variation in divorce rates”, December 2018 issue of Social Forces. https://academic.oup.com/sf/article-abstract/97/2/67...055442. Note that in many international studies US statistics aren’t collected because, as observers noted “The authors left out the US because the country is “an extreme outlier.” The US also has the largest number of one-person households (about 30%)[25]U.S.: Number of households 1960-2018; https://www.statista.com/statistics/183635/number-of...he-us/[26]Single-person households United States 1960-2018; https://www.statista.com/statistics/242022/number-of...he-us/, and the largest percentage of fatherless children (about 25%)[27]Fatherless Statistics for the United States; https://fatherhoodfactor.com/us-fatherless-statistics/.

America is one of the two most racist countries in the world, where even the random and unprovoked killing of non-whites is not only permissible but usually meets with approval. Americans are gun-crazy, owning more guns than the entire rest of the world combined, and more guns than all the world’s police and military. They carry their guns everywhere, and use them everywhere, the US having the highest rates of gun shootings and murders of any nation, with more than 20 small children and more than 200 adults being sent each day to either the hospital or the cemetery. Many small American cities, like the nation’s capital of Washington DC with only half a million people, or places like Detroit or Chicago, have more murders each year (by an order of magnitude) than does Shanghai with 25 million people. The overall homicide rate for China is 0.6 and for Shanghai 0.2; that for the US is 4.0. The gun death rate for children in the US is 40 times higher than for any other nation in the world[28]Gun Violence in 2018; https://www.thetrace.org/2018/12/gun-violence-facts-...s-2018[29]Guns in the US: The statistics behind the violence – BBC News; https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34996604. The US also has the highest number of crimes committed with firearms each year, a staggering total of a minimum confirmed of 500,000 and an estimated 3 million[30]CDC Study: Use of Firearms; https://www.cnsnews.com/…/cdc-study-use-firear...errent[31]CDC Asked About Defensive Gun Uses; https://www.forbes.com/…/2018/04/30/that-time-...n-uses, and the highest number of violent raids on private homes, with more than 80,000 instances per year of SWAT teams kicking in someone’s front door in the middle of the night, always terrorising and sometimes killing the occupants, usually without identifying themselves and often attacking the wrong house.[32]Speaking Truth to Empire: 80,000 Swat Team Raids Per Year; https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/04/28/speaking-tr...a-wtf/[33]The Rutherford Institute :: Are Police in America Now a Military, Occupying Force? John W. Whitehead; August 05, 2013; https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/jo..._force

The US has the highest rate of cocaine and meth usage of any nation[34]What is the scope of cocaine use in the United States; https://www.drugabuse.gov/…/cocaine/what-scope...states, thanks in large part to the CIA’s very successful war on drugs which permits that agency to import cocaine duty-free. The US has the highest rate of gender inequality[35]Gender equality stalls in the U.S., Stanford report finds; https://news.stanford.edu/2018/03/16/gender-equality...-finds among industrialised nations, far exceeding egalitarian nations like China (and formerly Iraq and Libya). The US has the highest number of lawyers and lawsuits in the world, by orders of magnitude, a reflection of both natural belligerence and inborn greed, Americans spending twice as much on lawsuits each year as on new cars[36]Issues of the Lawyer Population: Japan; http://scholarlycommons.law.case.edu/cgi/viewconten...xt=jil. Japan has 14,000 lawyers, China 160,000, the US 1.35 million (11 per 100,000 for Japan and China compared to 300 per 100,000 for the US). Americans surpass the entire world in their amount of useless consumption, having long passed the point where it can be deemed pathological. As one measure, that of shopping mall space per capita, Germany has 2.7 sq ft per person, Japan has 3.9 and the UK has 5. For every American shopper there are 24 sq ft of mall. The US has by far the highest level of carbon emissions on a per-capita basis, thanks in no small part to General Motors who has repeatedly committed genocide on electric automobiles.

Wars and violence are defining adjectives of America. The US as a nation is now, and has always been, intensely militaristic, inherently provocative, combative and violent. The US is by far the largest merchant of death in the world, being responsible for about 70% of total world arms sales. For comparison, Russia is second at 17%, while China is at 3%. If we include everything, the US spends about twice as much on its military each year as the entire rest of the world combined, already well-documented by many authors at well in excess of $1 trillion. It also has the world’s largest network of foreign military bases, with more than 1,000 such installations, including many that appear on no map, and the world’s largest number of bio-weapons labs, with more than 400 outside the US. America has launched the most wars of aggression in the history of the world and has been at war for 235 of its 243 years as a nation, all those wars unprovoked and unjustified, and none of which were either wars of ‘liberation’ or ‘to make the world safe for democracy’, but for colonisation and plunder. The US is also outstanding in that it has assassinated more foreign world leaders and other officials (about 150)[37]https://www.globalresearch.ca/cia-us-government-assa...693720 than even Israel has done, and also operates the largest network of torture prisons that has ever existed in the history of the world. The US also wins first prize for having some of the most bloodthirsty homicidal mass murderers and pathological killers in the history of the world, far exceeding our former heroes Stalin and Hitler. Kissinger, Albright and Curtis LeMay come immediately to mind, but there are more.

The US has by far the highest incarceration rate of all nations, with more than 25% of the world’s prisoners in its jails and with almost 35% of all adult Americans having a criminal record. Alarmingly, the US has by far the highest number of internment camps – prison camps – in the world, all 800 fully-staffed but empty, waiting for Americans to dare launch another Occupy Wall Street or similar protest. The US has the most militarised police forces of any nation, with frighteningly heavy-duty military hardware like MRAPs, APCs, drone aircraft and automatic weapons. The police motto “To protect and serve” that was once plastered on every police car, has been amended. It now reads “To occupy and kill”. The US has by far the highest number of civilians killed each year by police (well over 1,000) of any nation in the world, even including rogue states and axis of evil members. Americans have far more to fear from their local police than from terrorists. Police brutality in America is now legendary, so common as to be one of the nation’s defining adjectives, with beatings, shootings, harassment, false criminal charges reaching epidemic proportions and increasing.

America is the world’s only nation with a website named “Killed by Police.org” to document the epidemic of civilians killed by police, and the only nation where local newspapers have sections devoted to listing the number of daily killings in each neighborhood of the major cities to assist citizens in house purchases. Violent crime rates in the US are at least an order of magnitude above those of China or Japan (and many other nations).

The US also has one of the most corrupt police and judicial systems in the world. No Western country is particularly free of this charge, but America excels. As one example, the US has by far the largest number in the world of citizens falsely convicted by fraudulent testimony, some 40,000 convictions caused by one fraudulent forensics lab alone. And of course, the US has the world’s largest espionage network by orders of magnitude, with an ambition to steal every secret and to record and save every communication by every human on the planet.

It is no longer a secret that American-style democracy has a few flaws, with extreme dysfunction and rampant corruption among the more visible, though looting the public trough would run a close second. The US also has the government most totally over-run with puppet-masters and controlled by parasitic aliens, having entirely lost control to its various lobbies and with all its elected officials having sworn allegiance to the Jews and Israel rather than to America. The US has the highest number and percentage of Presidents, Secretaries of State and Defense Secretaries who were certifiable as criminally insane and who should have been given lobotomies and committed to institutions for life. Too many names to list here. America is the one nation that has more or less institutionalised government corruption at virtually every level, extending deeply into the judiciary, the regulatory bodies and Congress, as well as local and state governments. The US is well-known for compiling the most fraudulent economic statistics of all developed and undeveloped nations, including the hugely fictitious ‘average income’ of $45,000, and is one of the most indebted of all countries in the world today. I strongly suggest everyone read this short article on US economic statistics[38]https://www.unz.com/lromanoff/us-economic-statistics...mbers/ and cease the rubbish about how China’s numbers can’t be trusted.

Not to be outdone, the US media are in a class by themselves in terms of dishonesty, bias, censorship, and petty opinion-based journalism. American journalists are mostly cut from the same cloth, displaying more or less the same malignancies.

The US has the most complete immunity for elite white-collar crime, prosecuting only its person-companies but never the persons. Americans boast of their transparent and corruption-free financial system, and the US media enjoys trashing China for what appears to be an occasional corporate fraud. But in the long list of the world’s largest corporate bankruptcies due to fraud and corruption, all but one occurred in the US. Ron Unz prepared a list that included Enron, WorldCom, Tyco, Global Crossing, Adelphia, MF Global, Lehman, Bear Stearns, Merrill Lynch, Washington Mutual, and Wachovia. The US has also been home to the world’s largest Ponzi schemes like those of Bernie Madoff and Allen Stanford, that resulted in almost $100 billion in public losses. It is the US, not China, that is the home to corporate fraud and deceit, while all but two of the largest corporate frauds in China in recent decades were committed by American firms, not Chinese.

To end our list of areas in which American Exceptionalism truly shines, the US has for years been deservedly voted the world’s most hated nation, is widely reviled as the world’s greatest bully, and judged by all peoples – including Americans – as the greatest threat to world peace.

Lest anyone think the above list is unfair or exaggerated, you can do a simple test by applying the items to other countries. Germany, for example, or China or Canada. Certainly every nation has some deaths, crime, divorces, military spending and so on, but none of the items in this list can be applied to Germany, China or Canada, nor to any other nation. The US does have the greatest debt, highest military spending, racism, killings, guns, incarceration, torture prisons, initiated wars, and all the rest. The records for inequality, obesity, consumption, personal debt, poverty, cocaine use, murders, all belong to America, with no other nation even in the running. The claim is as demonstrably true for ignorance and hypocrisy as it is for police brutality. As an accusation or an indictment, the list is 100% accurate, a factual description of America as it is today, seen without the propaganda and rose-colored glasses.

A complete list of areas of American Exceptionalism must include one other item: The most traitors. This unfortunate category exists on several levels, the first being the President and White House staff and the US Congress who, as we already know, have pledged allegiance to Israel rather than America. The second is the foreign-owned US FED, criminally pursuing its own agenda while systematically destroying the economic fabric of America. The cadre of elite owners of most large US banks and multinationals fall into this category as well, pursuing their own private advantage while consciously gutting the economy of their own nation.

But there is a third, more pervasive level, a large cadre of educated Americans who are essentially compradors, traitors to most of their values and to their people, embedded in the system and dependent on it, participating fully in the destruction of their own country by acting as lieutenants for the officials of the secret government. These individuals are vital for the success of the transformation of the US to a fascist state, with the elites dependent upon them to execute their policies, yet they also profit from their positions in terms of attractive salaries and protection from much of the law. These are the people who best know of all the crimes and social injustices, being in fact a willing part of their execution process, but least likely to blow the whistle for fear of damaging their careers. It is the middle level of educated executives, lawyers, accountants and managers in government, criminal corporations, Foundations, think tanks, the media, and so many others, who are directly responsible for knowingly inflicting the vast damage on their own people and nation. Like the CEOs of the banks and multinationals, these compradors seek only their own advantage, discarding their human values and blinding themselves to the harm they do.

The following bulleted list is for your ease in reading.

  • Greatest Income Inequality of major nations
  • Lowest social mobility
  • Smallest middle class and largest lower class of all major nations
  • Largest amount of personal debt
  • Highest percentage of university graduates with massive student-loan debts
  • Lowest percentage of home-owners of major nations
  • Highest number of homeless of major nations
  • Highest percentage of repossessed homes and autos in the world
  • Highest Poverty rate of major nations
  • Largest number of children in poverty and homeless children in major nations
  • Greatest slums and urban decay of any Western nation
  • Highest percentage of population receiving government food aid
  • Highest level of unemployed, under-employed, and part-time employed
  • The highest number of people aged 65 to 75 returning to the workforce to survive
  • Only nation with no mandated paid holidays or maternity leave
  • Highest educational costs
  • Highest functional illiteracy rate of all developed and semi-developed nations
  • Highest level of ignorance
  • Highest health care costs
  • Most people without health care
  • The only Western nation with high GM food content
  • Highest infant mortality rate
  • Highest obesity rate
  • Shortest life expectancy at birth
  • Highest rate of sexually-transmitted diseases
  • Greatest production and access of pornography
  • Highest anti-depressant drug use
  • Highest teen-age pregnancy and abortion rates among developed countries
  • Largest number of one-person households
  • Largest percentage of fatherless children
  • The most strident nationalism of all nations
  • Highest level of racism and race-related violence
  • Highest number and percentage of guns
  • Highest murder rate
  • Highest number of gun shootings
  • Largest number of firearms crimes per year
  • Highest cocaine and meth usage
  • Largest number of lawyers and lawsuits
  • Highest carbon emissions
  • Highest military spending
  • Highest arms sales
  • Largest network of foreign military bases (1,000) and foreign bio-weapons labs[400]
  • Most wars of aggression of any nation in the history of the world
  • Most governments destabilised and overthrown
  • Largest number of foreign leaders and officials assassinated
  • Longest-lasting genocide in the history of the world
  • Largest network of torture prisons – and prison ships – in the history of the world
  • Worst human rights record of all nations, possibly excepting Israel
  • Highest incarceration rate
  • Highest percentage of population with criminal records
  • Largest number of civilian internment camps
  • Most militarised civilian police force
  • Largest number of civilians killed by police
  • Highest number in the world of violent SWAT raids on civilian homes
  • The only nation with widespread civil forfeiture
  • Largest commercial and military espionage network
  • The government most over-run by parasitic aliens
  • Highest percentage of criminally-insane Presidents and officials in history
  • Most institutionalised government corruption
  • Most complete immunity for elite white-collar crime
  • Most and largest corporate bankruptcies due to fraud
  • Most fraudulent economic statistics of any major nation
  • Most biased and dishonest media and columnists
  • Most hypocritical of all nations
  • Most hated nation
  • World’s greatest bully
  • Greatest threat to world peace

Notes

[1] Income inequality in the United States; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_inequality_in_the_United_States

[2] US income inequality | US news | The Guardian; https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/us-income-inequality

[3] The Decline of Social Mobility in America – The Atlantic; https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/07/social-mobility-america/491240

[4] Total US household debt soars to record above $13 trillion; https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/13/total-us-household-debt-soars-to-record-above-13-trillion.html

[5] https://www.debt.org/bankruptcy/statistics

[6] October 29, 2019; https://www.census.gov/housing/hvs/files/currenthvspress.pdf

[7] China Home Ownership Rate | 2019 | Data | Chart | https://tradingeconomics.com/china/home-ownership-rate

[8] The official U.S. poverty rate; https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/09/16/official-us-poverty-rate-is-based-hopelessly-out-of-date-metric/

[9] One-Third of US Population Gets Food Subsidies; https://www.newsmax.com/US/food-stamps-assistance-program/2013/07/08/id/513860

[10] The real jobs numbers: 41% of America unemployed, 1 in 3; https://www.rt.com/usa/jobs-us-employment-welfare-749

[11] Shocker: 40% of Workers Now Have ‘Contingent’ Jobs; https://www.forbes.com/sites/elainepofeldt/2015/05/25/shocker-40-of-workers-now-have-contingent-jobs-says-u-s-government/

[12] https://www.unz.com/lromanoff/substandard-education-in-america/

[13] https://www.globalresearch.ca/brief-look-substandard-education/5694267

[14] Ibid

[15] Americans without health insurance; https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/16/americans-without-health-insurance-up-more-than-3-million-under-trump.html

[16] Infant Mortality; http://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/MaternalInfantHealth/InfantMortality.htm

[17] U.S. Infant Mortality Rate 1950-2019; https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/infant-mortality-rate

[18] Adult Obesity Facts; CDC; https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html

[19] America’s sexually transmitted disease rates are out of control; https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/americas-sexually-transmitted-disease-rates-are-out-of-control/ar-AAIAW4M

[20] U.S. Antidepressant Use Jumps 65 Percent in 15 Years; https://consumer.healthday.com/mental-health-information-25/antidepressants-news-723/u-s-antidepressant-use-jumps-65-percent-in-15-years-725586.html

[21] Opioid Crisis Statistics | HHS.gov; https://www.hhs.gov/opioids/about-the-epidemic/opioid-crisis-statistics

[22] Teen Pregnancy Rates Declined In Many Countries; https://www.guttmacher.org/news-release/2015/teen-pregnancy-rates-declined-many-countries-between-mid-1990s-and-2011

[23] Marriage and Divorce; https://www.census.gov/topics/families/marriage-and-divorce.html

[24] “Coming out of the penumbras: World culture and cross-national variation in divorce rates”, December 2018 issue of Social Forces. https://academic.oup.com/sf/article-abstract/97/2/675/5055442

[25] U.S.: Number of households 1960-2018; https://www.statista.com/statistics/183635/number-of-households-in-the-us/

[26] Single-person households United States 1960-2018; https://www.statista.com/statistics/242022/number-of-single-person-households-in-the-us/

[27] Fatherless Statistics for the United States; https://fatherhoodfactor.com/us-fatherless-statistics/

[28] Gun Violence in 2018; https://www.thetrace.org/2018/12/gun-violence-facts-statistics-2018

[29] Guns in the US: The statistics behind the violence – BBC News; https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34996604

[30] CDC Study: Use of Firearms; https://www.cnsnews.com/…/cdc-study-use-firearms-self-defense-important-crime-deterrent

[31] CDC Asked About Defensive Gun Uses; https://www.forbes.com/…/2018/04/30/that-time-the-cdc-asked-about-defensive-gun-uses

[32] Speaking Truth to Empire: 80,000 Swat Team Raids Per Year; https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/04/28/speaking-truth-to-empire-80000-swat-team-raids-per-year-in-usa-wtf/

[33] The Rutherford Institute :: Are Police in America Now a Military, Occupying Force? John W. Whitehead; August 05, 2013; https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/are_police_in_america_now_a_military_occupying_force

[34] What is the scope of cocaine use in the United States; https://www.drugabuse.gov/…/cocaine/what-scope-cocaine-use-in-united-states

[35] Gender equality stalls in the U.S., Stanford report finds; https://news.stanford.edu/2018/03/16/gender-equality-stalls-u-s-stanford-report-finds

[36] Issues of the Lawyer Population: Japan; http://scholarlycommons.law.case.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1614&context=jil

[37] https://www.globalresearch.ca/cia-us-government-assassinations/5693720

[38] https://www.unz.com/lromanoff/us-economic-statistics-unreliable-numbers/

 
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  1. 76239 says:

    “America is one of the two most racist countries in the world”

    Horseshit. Blacks are better off in the US than in poor Africa. Just ask them if they want to move?

    ” 80,000 instances per year of SWAT teams kicking in someone’s front door in the middle of the night, always terrorising and sometimes killing the occupants, usually without identifying themselves and often attacking the wrong house”

    Yeah, they just do this to black people, right?

    • Agree: Based Lad, Realist, Z-man
    • Disagree: Tom Welsh
  2. Based Lad says:

    The United States is also the only first world nation that houses a dysgenic and overly coddled subsaharan criminal element. Why can’t we be like the European nations? We aren’t European enough.

    “America is one of the two most racist countries in the world, where even the random and unprovoked killing of non-whites is not only permissible but usually meets with approval.”

    By Jove. Is the author able to navigate the internet properly? I’d reckon he skims solely the approved narrative headlines. A white boomer was murdered in broad daylight and the black king who dunnit is getting probation. A white five year old got his face shot off and the media turns a blind eye. All of the problems the author outlines could disappear in a year had we the gumption to be MORE racist and MORE patriarchal. Expel every non-European foreign born person. Arrest every artist and producer that encourages anti-social degeneracy. Deploy the terror squads to high crime neighborhoods. Incarcerate every dual citizen and foreign national involved in government. Repatriate the scum responsible for the proliferation of criminal mentality back to their continents. Dissolve all trade deals and enact economic protectionism. The coup de grace: end universal suffrage. Problems gone. Get a grip kiddo.

  3. d dan says:

    But, but, but… they are not ordinary Americans’ faults. They are China’s faults. Russia’s faults, Iran’s faults, Israel’s faults, Venezuela’s faults, Cuba’s faults, North Korea’s faults, advantage-taking allies’ faults, greedy trade partners’ faults, UN’s faults, WHO’s faults, WTO’s faults, immigrants’ faults, Jews’ faults, Muslims’ faults, Blacks’ faults, Browns’ faults, Yellows’ faults, Reds’ faults, communists’ faults, socialists’ faults, liberals’ faults, conservatives’ faults, libertarians’ faults, racists’ faults, capitalists’ faults, globalists’ faults, 1 percenter’s faults, Bill Gates’ faults, Soros’ faults, Koch’s faults, Trump’s faults, Obama’s faults, Bushes’ faults, Clinton’ faults, Reagan’s faults, politicians’ faults, the other parties’ (GOP, democrat) faults, red states’ faults, blue states’ faults, purple states’ faults, States governments’ faults, Supreme Court’s faults, lobbyists’ faults, Pentagon’s faults, Military-Industry Complex’s faults, Federal Reserve’s faults, Wall Street’s faults, Silicon Valley’s faults, 5G’s faults, Hollywood’s faults, big media’ faults, deep states’ faults, Covid-19’s faults, climate change’s faults, California fire’s faults,…

    The number of “someone else faults” – is this another exceptionalism?

    • Thanks: dogbumbreath
    • Replies: @Moi
    , @Really No Shit
  4. Surgical says:
    @Based Lad

    Oh yes, this little list should do the trick, LOL. “Get a grip”: good advice, you should take it.

    • Replies: @Based Lad
  5. Look at the comments. These bozos don’t care about inequality. They don’t care if the rich are eating their lunch. They don’t care about the poverty rate, and think that blacks make up all the poor, when their are actually more poor whites than poor blacks. They think the majority of homeless are black when the majority of homeless are white. (The cross-eyed retards.) They don’t care about the wars. NIMBY is the farthest they can see. Horizons are foreshortened for them. They actually think that, say, Nigeria or North Korea is more corrupt than the US. As if those little comparatively-honest countries could compete.

    All they care about is race race race. I like how they think blacks are rich because they are poor. And therefore blacks control everything. Because they are so rich. Because they are poor.

    Listen up, pinhead children, if all you care about is race, you are an idiot who does not deserve to have an opinion. Because your “opinions” are not opinions. The value of your “opinions” is like flipping a coin. You might land on the right side. You might land on the wrong. But neither is because the coin has the least smidgeon of consciousness.

  6. Cyrano says:

    What makes US truly exceptional are its elites. Obviously this exceptionalism doesn’t extend all the way down to more than half of the population – the so called deplorables – who are thankfully replaceable, which is currently under way – just to show them who are really the exceptional ones.

    Luckily, no one is even planning to do any replacement of the exceptionals – which would be treason of course, and probably dealt with accordingly, but not to worry, once the 3rd world deplorables fully replace the domestic deplorables, the replacement of the exceptionals WILL occur, despite the beliefs of the degenerates that they possess some unique qualities that are universally admired – especially by their 3rd world protégés.

    You see, the 3rd world deplorables tend to be emotional that way, they don’t care about the “unique” qualities of the exceptionals and eventually will come to see the different hue of the skin of the exceptionals, exceptionally offensive to their sensibilities and will do away with the degenerates who see themselves as untouchables – but that’s probably few decades down the road and the degenerates definitely don’t possess such fair-sightedness to see what’s coming to them.

  7. anon[196] • Disclaimer says:

    If the third world is nonaligned or less-developed nations, and the fourth world is nonindustrial subsistence populations, the USA is the fifth world. Due to state predation and repression the US dropped out of the first world into a unique bottomless shithole: genocidal failure to respect the duties of a sovereign state. America is a moribund society and nation killed off by its parasitic state.

    Americans could benefit from ECOSOC review because that charter body will hold the state responsible for all its economic rights derogations and state-sponsored predation. But for the US government, treating its subject population like shit is a vital interest. The US government has funneled all available resources toward repression and war to save money on protection.

    So realistically, the only way we’re going to get rid of this regime is if foreign liberators nuke the beltway and decapitate the COG regime. That means wiping out 10 million state apparatchiks in the capital area, plus extensive damage to at least one city in every state where fusion centers exercise decentralized CIA control. Even with careful use of kinetic or low-yield warheads, decapitating COG will probably cause at least 40 million more deaths.

    You can model it here nuke by nuke. It would probably take less than the 3,000-warhead laydowns of the cold war.

    https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

    Think of it as radiation therapy for cancer. The US government’s a cancer. It will beggar us and starve us all and lock us up tighter and tighter unless it is destroyed. We will look back on it and say it was necessary, proportional to the suffering it stopped, as Madelyn Albright said, it was worth it.

  8. Behind it all, the tribe as they yearn for the “good old days” of their Messiahs – Lenin and Stalin – who they helped murder FIFTY MILLION across Russia and Eastern Europe. But those do not count since they were mostly only Goyim. Their intent is to destroy national sovereignty and wipe Western culture off the face of the earth. BAMN.

  9. You ad me until you decided to claim that black men are being killed for no reason by cops.

    Wtf? What is wrong with you? Come on, man!

    Anyone who believes that nonsense is not worth reading. They have nothing to say.

    • Disagree: Tom Welsh
    • Troll: Biff
  10. I wouldn’t agree with all statements; but there are lots of incontrovertible, and indeed pretty earth-shattering, figures in this article.

    Do check your stats on home ownership, though. The paper you link to has 67%, not 57%. From what I witnessed from 2000 to 2009, I don’t think the US situation is comparatively as bad in this respect as you report. I wouldn’t think that France or the UK has a greater or at least significantly greater rate than that. As a matter of fact, many of the ills you mention for the US, such as poor education, ignorance, and rampant crime, have been steeply increasing in these two countries, as presumably in other European countries.

    On the other hand, you seem to assume that racism is axiomatically defined as hatred of non-whites by whites. Racism proper is arguably most virulent coming from blacks in the US. As for the general population, they are conditioned to view other countries as potential or actual threats and so xenophobia is quite intense. In one ironical instance, some russophobic Russian expats in the US find themselves at the receiving end of ambient russophobia. I’m sure the same is happening to some fanatically Westernized Chinese expats.

    Anyway, this is a great paper I’ll be using as a reference whenever someone tries to put down China, Russia or Iran as “a horrible dictatorship”.

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
    • Replies: @Biff
  11. Based Lad says:
    @Surgical

    Look it up smoothbrain. Black on white rape, murder and assault are all much higher rates than the inverse. “Oh no! Another hood rat dies by police!” More whites are killed by cops than blacks. Blacks commit 50% of homicides in the US. I could go on. Or you could learn how to seek out alternative narratives. There’s some here on Unz right now. All you have to do is click the blue words gramps.

    • Replies: @Tor597
  12. @obwandiyag

    All they care about is race race race.

    Seems to me that’s the rules of the game in the USA, and the lemmings are more than happy to play it.

    Horizons are foreshortened for them.

    Exactly. These dynamics are being engineered for the desired long-term result, and the compliant lemmings are the means to the end.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
  13. Saggy says:

    The problem with every article by ‘L. Romanoff’ is separating the reasonable from the pure fantasy. And the high fantasy factor makes the entire article worthless. For example ….

    The US has the …… poorest overall quality of education in the developed world and parts of the rest. Read this article[12]

    Just prima facie pure idiocy. How about the reference … the reference is an article by …. ‘L. Romanoff’.

    This guy is provocative, and could be interesting, but the high BS quotient makes the articles too hard to read, and leads to the suspicion that he is a (((disinformation agent.)))

  14. @anon

    So realistically, the only way we’re going to get rid of this regime is if foreign liberators nuke the beltway and decapitate the COG regime. That means wiping out 10 million state apparatchiks in the capital area, plus extensive damage to at least one city in every state where fusion centers exercise decentralized CIA control. Even with careful use of kinetic or low-yield warheads, decapitating COG will probably cause at least 40 million more deaths.

    I’ve occasionally pondered on how many individuals would have to be identified & eliminated to purify the planet of the psycopathic One World Government movement and usher in an era of genuine global peace and prosperity for the masses.

    Probably in the millions, for sure. And not just in North America – like a fungal infection, the tendrils have spread everywhere.

    Think of it as radiation therapy for cancer.

    A very apt analogy – just like radiation therapy, the “cure” may kill the host faster than the disease.

    Methinks a holistic approach may be better. A progressive dictator might help – but make sure you get a good one.

    • Replies: @Patagonia Man
  15. @Based Lad

    Hey Based, thanks for demonstrating LBJ’s point:

    “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.” – Lyndon B Johnson

    [emphasis mine]

    Cheers!

  16. 2024 will cure matters —-Mike Pompeo and Fester Addams Republicans versus Kamala ( The original Harris —7 feet tall and 400 pounds sans wooden face mask) and Million Dollar Man Ted Dibiasi on the Democratic side. Referee by wild popular choice–“Mankind”.

  17. @Saggy

    Saggy, it’s common practice for an author of an article to link to another article in which he has done the research, in this case the quality of the US’s education.

    Why would an author refer to some other author on the topic, if he is across his brief – as he is?

    If you have no argument with the substantive thrust of the article, maybe its better to remain silent.

    Cheers!

    • Replies: @Realist
  18. Lee says:

    Mr Romanoff could do all of humanity a great service by having flyers printed of his list of US short comings to be handed out at the southern border. Every foreign embassy worldwide should also have this list publicly posted to help deter the millions of people who yearly try to immigrate/visit the “shithole” of a country that America has become. Sarcasm

    .

    • Agree: Vinnyvette, Stogumber
    • Replies: @Rev. Spooner
  19. Biff says:

    the highest number of violent raids on private homes, with more than 80,000 instances per year of SWAT teams kicking in someone’s front door in the middle of the night, always terrorising and sometimes killing the occupants, usually without identifying themselves and often attacking the wrong house.[32][33]

    One of the top reasons I GTFO(with my dogs) – cops shoot someone’s dog every ninety minutes in America.

  20. Biff says:
    @Jean-Marie L

    Do check your stats on home ownership, though. The paper you link to has 67%, not 57%. From what I witnessed from 2000 to 2009, I don’t think the US situation is comparatively as bad in this respect as you report.

    One stat that isn’t mentioned or possibly never done is debt-ratio to home ownership. I remember that about twenty years ago banks were making a big push for people to take out 2nd mortgages against their current home. I personally know many who did driving up their payments, and extending their pay-off date(but n rich for a little while). Personally I consider home ownership as a home without debt, but that is not entirely correct for many reasons.

  21. @Ultrafart the Brave

    “I’ve occasionally pondered on how many individuals would have to be identified & eliminated to purify the planet … Probably in the millions, for sure.”

    You may well be surprised. What is necessary is to cut off the head of the snake. ‘But where does the snake reside?’ I hear you ask.

    Well, in fact, the snake is a many-headed hydra:

    1. the Vatican (after its coup in 1958 with the death of Pius XII), is being used for geopolitical aims of dismantling Central Industrialism in the former USSR, Warsaw Pact countries & former Soviet republics, witness Belarus, and to reunite with the (Eastern) Orthodox Church;
    2. the City of London, simply aka ‘the City’, the 1 mile² of bankster’s head offices – with their supranational institutions: World Bank, International Monetary Fund & Bank For International Settlements;
    3. the Federal Reserve – a private consortium of foreign banks which controls the US money supply (currency & credit) imposed on the American people by a traitorous president, Woodrow Wilson and the City of London;
    4. the comprador class in the EU – which has absolutely nothing to do with democracy & the European Central Bank (ECB) – a bankster’s cartel;
    5. the Pentagon – the base of the US Military Industrial Complex;
    6. ‘The Company’ as its euphemistically known for the supranational 3-letter intel agency for gathering/recording/monitoring all communications & sister agencies forming a network of spooks;
    7. Think tanks indulging in ‘group-think’ of the Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission, WEF, Chatham House, Council on Foreign Relations, etc, etc

    Now here’s the question.

    Ever read Revelations? Its rich in its symbolism of images used to convey concepts / future events.

    “I saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns …” (Revelation 13:1)

    The 10 horns are on the 7th head, these 10 kings will come to power in the future Revived Roman Empire.

    Living in the US have you observed the architecture of the public buildings – Federal and State? Even the Congress and seat of the legislative branch of the federal government, is called The Capitol, after Rome. Coincidence?

    So when we see a world body, something like the UN Security Council for instance, expanded to include 5 more countries e.g., Germany, India, Brazil, Japan and another(?) that would give us our 10 “crowns” on one of the 7 heads I’ve designated above (which one of them is the 7th, IOW has primacy, is open to debate).

    It’s all there hiding in plain sight, for our eyes to see.

    Cheers!

    • Thanks: Ultrafart the Brave
    • Replies: @jsigur
    , @Harold Smith
  22. Okay, okay. When I hit a sentence like this “even the random and unprovoked killing of non-whites is not only permissible but usually meets with approval,” I realize I’m dealing with a chucklehead who swallows everything he hears in the news media. The news media go out of their way to highlight all white-on-black crime while they ignore the reverse. On Americans’ general ignorance, though, I think he’s unfortunately right.

  23. @obwandiyag

    When obwandilag writes that “All they care about is race race race,” I fear he means the average Unz reader. But it’s the news media and the Democrats who constantly berate us about race. I don’t wish black people ill. I just don’t want to bear the burden of their faults and I certainly don’t want to continue paying to prop up the least productive of them with government money. And I refuse to swallow a drop of the blame-whitey propaganda that the principal news media offer. (Take a look at the NYT today, where two big pictures of accused men are given — both white, of course.) The notion that white people want “supremacy” over blacks is ridiculous. We simply are sick and tired of hearing about them, of being blamed for their problems and of having to listen to their horrible rap music in all sorts of public places.

    • Agree: mark green
    • Replies: @Tor597
  24. This is trolling but sadly, it is also based on the truth.

    Nowadays, all the young people outside America no longer want to go to America to work or study, and the older people, who used to admire or look up to America now look at at it with pity or disgust.

    It’s very sad what America has now become, esp under the relentless idiocy of the corrupt and incompetent Trump regime.

    America has now sadly become like the “shit-hole” countries Trump told those 4 young minority congresswomen to go back home to.

  25. USA to world: “Suck on it !”

  26. “Alarmingly, the US has by far the highest number of internment camps – prison camps – in the world, all 800 fully-staffed but empty, waiting for Americans to dare launch another Occupy Wall Street or similar protest.”

    Apparently the author doesn’t consider the current Antifa/BLM shenanigans to be authentic grassroots protests. I fully concur.

    • Agree: foolisholdman
  27. onebornfree says: • Website

    “The United States Is the Best Only at Being the Worst”

    So, if it’s truly the worst, Mr Romanoff, and assuming you live here, then why don’t you piss off to somewhere more suited to your tastes? Melbourne AUS? China? NZ? N.Korea? France? Spain? Germany? Almost all going “full speed ahead” with nationwide communo/fascist lockdowns, mandatory idiot-masks inside and outside your home etc. etc. and other such er, “niceties”. [Mandatory vaccinations soon to follow].

    And the same goes for anyone else who doesn’t like it in the US, just get the fuck out, fer chrissakes, instead of endlessly bitching/whining about Americas [admittedly] many, many faults!

    There’s a big world out there waiting for y’all.

    Or is it merely a case of “the US being “the best looking corpse in the morgue” and so I’ll stay”, perhaps?

    “Regards,” onebornfree

  28. onebornfree says: • Website
    @GreatSocialist

    “America has now sadly become like the “shit-hole” countries Trump told those 4 young minority congresswomen to go back home to.”

    I’m no Trump fan, but honestly, I have to give credit where credits due for that particularly on-target comment of his.

    “Shit-hole countries”! Classic!

    It’s almost worth hoping he gets another 4 years, just for similar off-hand comments of comparable value and humor that he might come up with; for it seems that there’s precious little else worth hoping/voting for with Trump, as far as I can see.

    At least I’ll get a few more good laughs as the entire US economy goes down the Covid-19 toilet to hell [turning it into yet another shit-hole country], mainly due to the National Socialist idiot-in-chiefs ongoing endorsement of state-wide lock-downs, mandatory mask wearing, nationwide- tax-payer funded vaccination “cures”, massive taxpayer funded bail-outs/welfare payments, and all the rest of the Kabuki theater “government to the rescue” CV-19 horseshit . 🙂

    See: “You,Trump,Sanders Etc., Vs “Dictator Syndrome” “:
    http://onebornfree-mythbusters.blogspot.com/2015/08/do-you-suffer-from-dictator-syndrome.html

    “regards” onebornfree

  29. Every empire in history has believed in its own exceptionalism: and history has always, ultimately, proven it wrong. This delusion is, to quote the last of the author’s bullet points – the “greatest threat to world peace”.
    https://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/

  30. Anon[103] • Disclaimer says:

    Mr.. Romanoff: “America is one of the two most racist countries in the world, where even the random and unprovoked killing of non-whites is not only permissible but usually meets with approval.”

    I stopped reading here. Mr. Romanoff isn’t as informed or experienced as I’d thought, but this is outright deception, ignorance or both. He hasn’t apologized yet, so I’ll guess both.

  31. Realist says:

    America is one of the two most racist countries in the world, where even the random and unprovoked killing of non-whites is not only permissible but usually meets with approval.

    Enough of your fucking shit!

    Blacks in America are the luckiest blacks on the planet.

    Americans are gun-crazy, owning more guns than the entire rest of the world combined, and more guns than all the world’s police and military.

    That is patently false…it is amazing how full of shit you are.

    • Agree: Saggy
  32. Realist says:
    @Anon

    I stopped reading here. Mr. Romanoff isn’t as informed or experienced as I’d thought, but this is outright deception, ignorance or both. He hasn’t apologized yet, so I’ll guess both.

    His name should be Jackoff..,.which he certainly is.

  33. Realist says:
    @GreatSocialist

    Nowadays, all the young people outside America no longer want to go to America to work or study,…

    Nothing sad about that…we have enough dumb bastards now.

  34. Realist says:
    @Patagonia Man

    Saggy, it’s common practice for an author of an article to link to another article in which he has done the research, in this case the quality of the US’s education.

    Because one lying asshole quotes or references another lying asshole…doesn’t make it true. In this case it’s the same asshole.

    • Agree: Saggy
    • Replies: @Patagonia Man
  35. Kali says:

    Hmm…. Interesting.

    If this article really does reflect the current social, political and economic state of North America (and it seems, generally speaking it dies, possible minor exaggerations notwithstanding)) it may give the rest of us a certain sense of smug superiority, went what we really ought to feel is a sense of trepidation, because right now America is litterally the Leader of the Western world. Dumb, corrupt, racist, indebted Americans lead and we follow!

    American Culture is, arguably, by far its biggest export.
    Corporatism. Militarism. Racism? (Maybe the Brits or Jews invented this one and exported it along with bygone colonialism.) Litigiousness. High level corruption and criminality within government. Indebtedness of the peasantry. Indoctrination for education. Violent crime. Homelessness. Poverty. U emoyment. Worstening health care. Media bias… And on and on and on…
    Every single westernised nation, I would suggest, is witnessing raising levels of all of the above as global cabalists work their dark magic against us all.

    Their masterstroke, “multicruralism”, is new speak for mono-culturalism. And though right now the worst excesses of that monoculture can be witnessed in North America, none of us is immune, and none of us is in a possition to gloat!

    So, what’s the solution? Blame the blacks. Blame white? Blame “the jews”. Blame China, Russia, North Korea? Blame Trump? Blame… Tom, Dick, Harry. Blame this, that or the other mono-god religion, depending which mono-god cult you favour…

    Yeah, we can go on blaming whoever we like, even as “they” (read our own people!) come to haul us off to FEMA camps to save the world from “covid19-20-21-22-”

    It’s been a while since I looked, so I can’t say off the top of my head how many unique visitors this website attracts every month, but I know it’s a high number… enough to light a hot fire under the seats of power in the US and keep it burning for a good long time.

    But then what? How might you organise and administer the “functions of state” (let’s face it, the overwhelming majority of people don’the even know what time of day it is without some authority figure to tell them) when the current regime has been deposed?

    Might I suggest that the time for a Pow Wow of the indigenous tribes is at hand. (I’ll give you a moment to stop laughing before I continue…)
    Yes, I am being serious! It’s time for whitey, blacky, jewy, to shut the fuck up, stop imagining ourselves as in any way superiour, more deserving, better, wiser, smarter, kinder, and just shut up and listen for a change!

    This world is a seriously fucked-up place because, somehow, by degrees, over generations of mongod-worship, we have handed our individual power/life-force over for others to weild against us, against our own best interests.

    It’s time we admitted that we and our ancestors have been wrong, and that we stood aside to give Pagans, Hethans and Savages a chance to reshape society in ways that may, might, possibly prove more beneficial for all!

    Let’s face it, they can’t do any worse than the mono-god cultists have done in our name, by our power!

    Anyone one who wishes to argue against this notion, I suggest you read the article again before commencing.

    Best wishes,
    Kali.

  36. My article listed about 70 discrete points yet several readers focused (a bit rudely, I thought) only on the racism point. I found myself wondering how they missed the “truly legendary level of ignorance”.

    However, my observation on American racism was not so black and white as ‘black and white’. The issue of racism in the US is rather different, though I can appreciate that in today’s climate the focus of some readers might have naturally shifted and thus my comment would appear inappropriate or wrong.

    Racism in America encompasses the sense of “good”, as in Americans are “good” even though they do many evil things (as a nation). It also includes a distinct sense of superiority over all others in every other nation. Americans are not only “good”, but they are “better” than all peoples everywhere. This isn’t necessarily universal, but it is still true. When people from China, for example, travel to another country and experience another culture, they think, “I’m different”. When Americans experience another culture, they think “I’m better”.

    This is one of the reasons your country so freely invades and kills people in so many other nations: You are not only “good” but you are “better”. Certainly better than the ragheads you kill for Jesus or the gooks you tortured to death in Vietnam, and much better than the chinks you want to kill today. And your god is on your side.

    That’s racism, folks, and unrelated to blacks and whites in America.

    This has existed from the day you landed in the New World, when Columbus set in motion a program of genocide that exterminated the entire Maya, Inca, and Aztec civilisations as well as the Carib Indians and 90% of the aboriginal natives in your country. It is the reason you, or people like you, exterminated the entire race of people in Tasmania, slaughtering every man, woman and child on the island. It was because you are “good” and “better”.

    It was the reason your great George Washington instructed his troops to skin the bodies of natives “from the hips downward to make boot tops or leggings”, and the reason your Theodore Roosevelt, the great Nobel Peace Prize winner, told Americans that the lives of aboriginal natives were “as meaningless, squalid, and ferocious as the wild beasts”, and that America’s extermination of them and the theft of their land “was ultimately beneficial as it was inevitable”.

    Lastly, one reader asked for an apology for my error, one which will not in this instance be forthcoming for the following reason:

    If I walk down any street in America and gun down a white man, I will, barring unusual circumstances, be placed before the mercy of a criminal court. But if I walk down a street in your country and gun down a black man, barring inexplicable bad luck, I can walk away because the policeman would likely have done the same.

    Ambrose Bierce said homicides were of three kinds, namely, felonious, justifiable, and praiseworthy. If I kill you, that’s perhaps felonious. If I gun down a nigger, that will be either justifiable or praiseworthy. That’s the truth, and you don’t have to like it.

  37. @Based Lad

    This guy is clueless and just lists data like BLM. If you take away the damage of the Blacks and the Illegal Aliens (contrary to what UNZ and others believe a true economic analysis would show that the Hispanics and Latins are a massive negative not net gain on the economy). Both these groups externalize the damage to the middle class (mainly whites). They have destroyed social services, their living areas and their crime rate is something the middle class is paying for.

    The next reason for all of this is that Globalism destroys everything it touches. We have off shored everything which both parties like especially the DemoRats. Trump is correct on this point. The USA is the number one importer in the world. The jobs that are left are mainly service industry types which pay poor wages and benefits. We don’t even make most or our medications and are at the mercy of China and India pharmaceutical companies.

    What Larry the Lounge Lizard leaves out is that for some reason people from Nigeria, Asia and other impoverished nations come here and succeed! Perhaps they have a better work ethic and don’t tell me that all the Mexicans etc. have a great work ethic because many don’t. I live with these folks and see how they drain the system. By the way on a side note do any of you realize what’s really going on in Chicago? Of course Mayor Lightfoot has no clue. Many of the shootings are gang related. When the Magic Jew Rahm Emanuel invited more Hispanics and Latins to Chicago he knew they would try to wipe out the blacks. Same stuff happened in LA and other cities in California. These gangs have infiltrated most of the USA (sure Ron doesn’t figure out the damage this does to society since he thinks this type of immigration Benefits us).

    As far as poverty goes did it strike anyone that maybe you shouldn’t have 7 kids by 7 different men and then wonder how you are going to support them? We simply have too many people for too few jobs and they are destroying the environment, the economy, and the social system. But this is what globalism does. It destroys families with low wages and benefits while enriching the corporations. And guess what it will get even worse ones Biden wins. They have a plan and that is to destroy this country by giving everything to the Blacks and Mexican types and destroy all the white middle class.

    • Agree: TKK
    • Replies: @Mefobills
  38. @Tono Bungay

    The news media go out of their way to highlight all white-on-black crime while they ignore the reverse.

    Yes indeed, the mainstream media amplifies the narrative of “whitey bad” while suppressing the reality of endemic black violence in the USA (not just against “whitey”, but against everyone).

    All part of the process of weaponizing the American black minority with a victim mindset for the purpose of stirring up directed chaos. “Colour Revolution”, anyone? I guess the “colour” for this one has already been selected.

    These things take time, of course, so the pot has been stirring for a generation or two so far. Not quite fully baked yet.

    From a purely academic perspective, it will be interesting to see how the Hispanic minority will be (or is being) used in all of this.

    • Replies: @Tor597
  39. @Larry Romanoff

    This is one of the reasons your country so freely invades and kills people in so many other nations: You are not only “good” but you are “better”. Certainly better than the ragheads you kill for Jesus or the gooks you tortured to death in Vietnam, and much better than the chinks you want to kill today. And your god is on your side.

    That’s racism, folks, and unrelated to blacks and whites in America.

    Yes Sir, you’ve nailed it on this one, but you could have better articulated your point.

    The USA has a racist dichotomy.

    Internally, there is a barely concealed undercurrent of (allegedly historically based) interacial tension (which IMO is being harnessed by hidden powers for naughty purposes).

    Externally, the USA is besotted with the “Master Race” mentality, something implicitly imbibed into post-WWII American culture and (more recently) explicitly embraced with Obama’s “Exceptional Nation” dogma.

    Neither brand of racism is healthy for either their proponents or their targets. As history repeatedly demonstrates, things never seem to end well for the “Master Race”.

    • Agree: Tom Welsh
    • Replies: @Larry Romanoff
  40. @Larry Romanoff

    It is the reason you, or people like you, exterminated the entire race of people in Tasmania, slaughtering every man, woman and child on the island. It was because you are “good” and “better”.

    I think you’ll appreciate the irony of this. The Tasmanian Aborigines were a distinct race, not the same as the mainland Australian Aborigines. The British colonists wiped them out, to the last man (actually, the very last Tasmanian Aborigine was a woman). Now, believe it or not, the tables have turned, and Tasmanian Aborigines have special status and priveleges under Australian law. But how can this be, you may ask, if the Tasmanian Aborigine race was wiped out? That’s a hard one, to be sure, but FWIW, now many Tasmanian Aborigines are blue-eyed and blonde. My hypothesis – if it pays to be a Tasmanian Aborigine… (?)

    It was the reason your great George Washington instructed his troops to skin the bodies of natives “from the hips downward to make boot tops or leggings”, and the reason your Theodore Roosevelt, the great Nobel Peace Prize winner, told Americans that the lives of aboriginal natives were “as meaningless, squalid, and ferocious as the wild beasts”, and that America’s extermination of them and the theft of their land “was ultimately beneficial as it was inevitable”.

    This sounds a little like the philosophy of the present-day “Chosen People” towards the Goyim.

    It sounds like the servants have learnt well from their masters.

    • Replies: @sb
  41. The US today has the greatest income inequality of all Western nations[1][2],

    You say that like it’s a bad thing. Inequality is what happens when people get what they deserve, because they don’t all deserve the same. Think of the U.S. as exceptional for having the most wonderful “diversity” of wealth, since that presumably accords with your mentality better. Vive la difference!

    it has the lowest social mobility of most nations[3],

    High “social mobility” is not a good thing. Percentile rankings are zero-sum games. You can only move up by stepping over those who are being pushed down the rankings. Low social mobility means that you are less likely to move down the social ladder from where your parents were. That’s a good thing. It’s especially good if it just reflects merit. Churning social positions for the hell of it would be a very bad thing. Thus, the U.S. is exceptional in having such wonderful “social stability.”

    “America is one of the two most racist countries in the world, where even the random and unprovoked killing of non-whites is not only permissible but usually meets with approval.”

    This is just too stupid to warrant a response. We are the only country that puts police in jail because a career criminal overdoses on fentanyl, and then give the criminal three funerals in a golden casket.

    The rest of the article is similarly warped.

    • Replies: @Tom Welsh
  42. Antiwar7 says:
    @onebornfree

    I think he said he lives in China?

  43. @Realist

    Realist, resorting to name-calling is just juvenile.

    The way debate works is, one makes a claim, in this case L. Romanoff, and others attempt to refute it.

    If there’s any fact about the US here that you can disprove – show us what you’ve got – with references!

    Cheers!

    • Thanks: Tom Welsh, Showmethereal
    • Replies: @Realist
  44. Highest murder rate

    False! Below is a listing of intentional homicide rates by country, both by total homicides and per capita. The United States is not even in the top ten by either measure.

    https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Violent-crime/Murder-rate

    After such a howler, how much credence are we to put in anything else this writer says?

    • Agree: Saggy
  45. Saggy says:
    @Larry Romanoff

    That’s racism, folks, and unrelated to blacks and whites in America.

    ‘Racism’ as an insult and attack is a recent development and is 100% a creation of the Jews*. And here we have LR harping incessantly on the racism of whites.

    I draw the logical conclusion, LR is a Jew, doing what Jews do.

    * not because ‘racism’ didn’t exist before the Jews weaponized it, but because anyone who had two brain cells realized that the races were different. But now, the Jews promote the 2+2=5 propaganda lie ..

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/racism

    Since the late 20th century the notion of biological race has been recognized as a cultural invention, entirely without scientific basis.

    • Replies: @Ilya G Poimandres
  46. Saggy says:
    @Crawfurdmuir

    The US ranks #55 in murders per capita …. !!! Who would have thought …..

    https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/indicators/VC.IHR.PSRC.P5/rankings

    • Replies: @Showmethereal
  47. Tor597 says:
    @Based Lad

    Nice fantasy there from your moms basement.

    Lets see you say that in real life.

    • Replies: @Icy Blast
  48. Tor597 says:
    @Based Lad

    White on Asian assaults and rapes are much higher than the reverse.

    Same is true overseas.

    Asians are being assaulted all through white countries yet whites are never assaulted in Asia.

    So maybe we should kick whites out of America.

    • LOL: Biff
    • Replies: @Icy Blast
    , @Mefobills
  49. @anon

    I honestly think the current American politicians are 100% copies of the old Chinese Mandarin class. The class of people that gave China 100 years of humiliation.

    This can get very dangerous for the USA as a nation.

    • Replies: @Tom Welsh
  50. Tor597 says:
    @Tono Bungay

    You are wrong. Whites 100% want supremacy over other races. That is why Whitelandia is so keen on keeping China down and Japan before it. Whites can’t fathom other people moving ahead of them.

    With blacks, there is a reason MLK and Malcom X were assassinated white Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton were not.

    MLK and Malcome X were revolutionaries that wanted blacks to have independence so they were killed. Jessie and Al were fine with blacks being controlled by whites so they lived.

    Same with red people. Any time they try to advance themselves white people over throw their government and replace them with a whiter version. See Evo Morales.

    • Agree: Showmethereal
    • Troll: GeneralRipper
    • Replies: @HeebHunter
  51. @Ultrafart the Brave

    Yes, I think you’ve stated something important. I claim no sociological credentials on racism, but the ‘master race’ mentality pervades both Christians and Jews, though not all of either. It seems to be the white, English-speaking nations that are the worst of this bunch (at least of the Christian element), with the US exhibiting the most pronounced characteristics.

    I would instinctively have tended to attribute this to the century of jingoistic propaganda (as you noted) to which Americans have been exposed (and through no fault of their own), but it existed much prior to that, perhaps this strain originating in England with their pride in the British Empire and Britannica ruling the waves. Yet, the French and other European nations had a strong sense of superiority over others, though not to the master race level. And the ‘master race’ syndrome exists powerfully in Japan, even to this day, as it does with some categories of Jews.

    • Agree: GreatSocialist
    • Replies: @Maowasayali
  52. @Larry Romanoff

    Larry Romanoff where did you learn your history? Native Americans never got along and were constantly killing each other, taking slaves and scalping each other. AIM the American Indian Movement is so bad that when the late actor Russel Means was the leader he needed armed guards as they were still after each other. Even today the Native Americans above Mexico still don’t get along. The Myans, Aztecs, and Incas were fucking Blood and Snake Cults. They massacred other tribes and were some of the most brutal people on the planet. That’s why the other tribes banded with the Spaniards to seek revenge.

    Why don’t you go back to the Romans or the Vikings and talk about them. They were conquers too. The Arabs ran the slave trade for over 1200 years. They castrated the males and used the women for sex slaves, killing their off spring. America is nothing more than a Corporate Fascist Military Industrial-Intelligence Police State just like most other countries. The wars are fought for the bankers and that’s who CFMIIPS works for. The citizens are just pawns. We have no control over what happens. As Twain said, “If voting would change anything do you think they would let you do it?”

    The people who control the CFMIIPS are the Jews and by the way…your name is Jewish isn’t it? If you are, maybe you should start with your own group before you start banging on America.

    • Replies: @Tor597
  53. Several readers appear to have taken instictive exception to my observations about the volume of gun ownership in America. Surprising as that claim may be to some of you, it is nevertheless true and extensively documented. The American Military News states, “US civilians own 400 million guns compared to military’s 4.5 million . . . the total number of firearms owned by private citizens vastly exceeds the police and military.”

    https://americanmilitarynews.com/2018/06/us-civilians-own-400-million-guns-compared-to-militarys-4-5-million-survey-shows/

    The UK Independent had a recent article stating, “Of the more than one billion firearms in the world, American citizens hold 393 million, for a population of roughly 326 million.”

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/gun-ownership-country-us-legal-firearm-citizens-statistics-a8406941.html

    There are hundreds of such credible references, and many studies having been done. Do a search for this: american citizens own more guns than the world’s military and police

    I wrote an article earlier on this precise topic that is quite heavily referenced. You might care to read it to expand your knowledge of this subject.

    https://www.unz.com/lromanoff/my-god-and-my-glock-the-theology-of-guns-in-america/

    One reader noted that the US is down at #55 on the list of per-capita gun murders in the world, but that is factually untrue. As I noted at the beginning of this essay, it is possible to locate statistics that will prove anything you want.

  54. @Tor597

    It almost feels like “whites” deserve the kikes who rule over them at this point.

  55. @Crawfurdmuir

    You” “Below is a listing of intentional homicide rates by country, both by total homicides and per capita.”

    Yes, but unfortunately your data is hopelessly out of date – 2008, 2009, 2010

    What did you do? Google it – and use the first link?

    Or look for a link that refuted Larry’s data – and use that in the hope that no one would open the link?

    • Replies: @Crawfurdmuir
  56. Some I agree with and some I don’t…but here is one you forgot: Americans are for the most part “exceptional” at NOT KNOWING SIMPLE GEOGRAPHY…remember that meme back around 2003 when the US invaded Iraq and two-thirds of Americans couldn’t find Iraq on a map? Ask any American to name ten capitals of African nations and….no way, Jose! Heck Americans likely can’t even name state capitals! As for math….being a former HS math teacher, I wonder how many in Common Core states think 2+2=5? And now some colleges want to get rid of standard English…replace with Ebonics maybe? Imma not like dat one!

    • Agree: Tom Welsh
  57. Icy Blast says:

    In about the sixth paragraph, the author started telling whopping lies about race. I stopped there. I figured it was a discarded draft of a speech for Ayanna Pressley – just another bit of poisonous trash. Where Unz finds these people I don’t know.

    • Replies: @Tom Welsh
  58. Icy Blast says:
    @Tor597

    Your post is a very lame diversion from the truth.

  59. I might also have noted that Americans have the most rights and freedoms in the world. For one, the right to sleep in tents, sewers and cardboard boxes while praising the democracy that made them homeless. The right to submit to body cavity searches to board an airplane and to be shot dead on the street, the freedom to support a family on a part-time job at Wal-Mart. Americans cherish their freedom to belong to the world’s largest lower class and they treasure the right to die in the parking lot at the hospital.

    Americans treasure the freedom of their children to wear body armor to kindergarten (pink for girls) and the now-enshrined right of every four year-old to be arrested and handcuffed by the police for misbehavior at the same kindergarten. The freedom to party in the streets to celebrate the freedom of their President to kill anyone in any other country he doesn’t like. The right to be brutalised by the police for exercising the freedom to protest prior brutalities.

    Americans treasure also the freedom of their Presidents, government and media to lie to them about almost everything, and their god-given right to believe all those lies. And of course as an American your life would not be complete without the freedom to place your hand on your heart and wave a pretty flag while pledging allegiance to the world’s greatest criminal enterprise.

  60. Mr Deeds says:

    Too many falsehoods ruin this article, and I just flat out had enough on the “racism” plot point where the author clearly lives in delusional clown world if he really thinks that non-whites being killed by police or “Bubba the Redneck” is some pervasive problem.

    You’re not gonna win friends at UNZ with that kinda crap buddy.

    • Agree: Vinnyvette
    • Disagree: Biff
  61. Tor597 says:
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    Truthfully, the media attacks everyone except for the chosen people.

    White people are just sensitive and can’t take any criticism at all.

    For instance, there are lots of slurs against all people of color. But as soon as white women get labeled with Karen, whites start to bitterly complain that they are being targeted.

    Quit being such whiney babies lol.

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  62. Tor597 says:
    @niteranger

    Native American never got along and were constantly scalping each other? What does that mean?

    You can say the same thing about Europeans too.

    The difference is that Europeans could kill each other and replace the population with more Europeans.

    Native Americans were genocided and their land was stolen from them. Thats why an entire race of people were wiped from the planet.

    • Agree: Kali
    • Replies: @Biff
    , @niteranger
    , @Jmaie
  63. @Patagonia Man

    All right, here are data from the 2016 – 2017 period:

    https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/indicators/VC.IHR.PSRC.P5/rankings

    The United States is well down the list in this ranking, as well.

  64. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:

    Excellent, all the things that America truly excels at, but afraid to advertise!

  65. TKK says:
    @Larry Romanoff

    If I walk down any street in America and gun down a white man, I will, barring unusual circumstances, be placed before the mercy of a criminal court. But if I walk down a street in your country and gun down a black man, barring inexplicable bad luck, I can walk away because the policeman would likely have done the same.

    As a criminal defense lawyer, I can tell you unequivocally that is not true. It is delusional.

    If you walk down the street and gun down a black who is NOT beating nor robbing you, you will be arrested for his death. Full stop. Even in the South. If evidence is found you premeditated to kill him, or killed him with a depraved heart, you could face the death penalty.

    Your article is packed full of shocking rancid truths about America that need to be heard. You lost your credibility by advocating The Big Lie. You have fallen victim to the relentless propaganda by the malevolent media of black men being chased by Pre Civil War Lynch mobs.

    CATEGORICALLY FALSE.

    Think instead: Insouicant, relaxed, $5000 rims, tricked out in $400 sneakers and the newest iPhones, EBTs cards with 3 digit balances, extreme preferences in all jobs, education and promotions, grants and contests regardless of merit. Free medical care. Reduced rent. Free lawyers. Free tuition. No gratitude.

    However—if you did commit certain crimes as a white man, and had the misfortune to land in a state prison with a high concentration of urban blacks— you would wish for death or membership in an Arayan/Biker gang with every cell of your being. You would commit homosexual acts and pay big money for protection from roving gangs of predator blacks who run the prisons with the threat and execution of sodomy rape, theft and extortion.

    THERE IS YOUR TRUTH.

    • Replies: @dogbumbreath
    , @WJ
  66. Thomasina says:
    @GreatSocialist

    Trump just inherited the “shit hole”. He played no part in its appearance. This shit hole has been 50 years in the making.

    Interesting that you would call Trump “corrupt”. What about the attempted coup- yes, an actual coup attempt – orchestrated against Trump by Obama, the FBI, the CIA, the Department of Justice? How about the Clinton Foundation? How about the impeachment proceedings over Trump asking the President of Ukraine to look into Biden funneling U.S. aid money out of Ukraine and into his own bank account?

    Trump is a novice compared to these guys.

  67. dually says:

    America is one of the two most racist countries in the world, where even the random and unprovoked killing of non-whites is not only permissible but usually meets with approval.

    Three kinds of lies:
    1. Lies.
    2. Damn lies!
    3. Statistics cited by LARRY ROMANOFF

    • Agree: Saggy
  68. @Saggy

    I prefer the term ‘groupism’.

    Groupism is when you see one person’s behaviour from a defined group, and extrapolate that behaviour to the group.

    Or when you know a statistic about a group behaviour, and meeting an individual from that group, you extrapolate to them.

    Black people are the fastest at the 100m historically, so this guy must be fast.

    Or I met a Jewish supremasist, so all Jews must be supremasists.

    It can be done for any group – colour, faith, sex, sushi eaters. It’s just the extrapolation that counts.

  69. Tom Welsh says:

    “The US has by far the highest number of civilians killed each year by police (well over 1,000) of any nation in the world, even including rogue states and axis of evil members”.

    The last nine words are redundant. The USA is the leading “rogue state”, and by itself constitutes the only “axis of evil”.

  70. Tom Welsh says:
    @76239

    “Blacks are better off in the US than in poor Africa”.

    Not necessarily. Many places in Africa are very nice to live in. Besides, black people who were born and have lived all their lives in the USA have no way of knowing how good or bad life in Africa might be.

    And, of course, some places – such as Libya – were among the world’s best countries to live in before the West – led by Washington – bombed the hell out of them and turned them into terrorist war zones.

    “Yeah, they just do this to black people, right?”

    The author nowhere suggested that “they just do this to black people”. The ill-treatment of black people and the brutality of the police towards everyone (except the very rich) are entirely separate issues.

    • Agree: Tor597
    • Troll: Z-man
  71. Anonymous[418] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    “America is one of the two most racist countries in the world.” BS article—–Stop reading.

  72. Tom Welsh says:
    @Based Lad

    “Expel every non-European foreign born person”.

    Whooops! And there goes a large percentage of the USA’s scientists, engineers, doctors and other highly intelligent professionals.

    “Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong”.

    – H. L. Mencken, “The Divine Afflatus,” (1917).

  73. @Larry Romanoff

    And the ‘master race’ syndrome exists powerfully in Japan, even to this day, as it does with some categories of Jews.

    The Meiji Restoration was a Jew operation. Japan, like America, are both 100% ZOG.

    Emperor Hirohito was only 5 feet 4 inches tall, but they told him he was 10 feet tall and Japan was (((exceptional))).

    Hence the exceptional cruelty with which the Master Race Japs dispensed with their enemies during WW2. They groomed him well for that kosher mass slaughter. 

    https://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news-photo/hirohito-the-crown-prince-of-japan-inspects-a-guard-of-news-photo/527737469

  74. GMC says:

    Larry Romanoff – You Nailed It ! And actually, you didn’t even have to compare the USA to other countries – because the tragic numbers, speak for themselves.

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
  75. What Mr.Romanoff has written is obviously true, despite its troll-some flavor.

    One point that may have been neglected is how the USA is the greatest money launderer in the world.

    It does this by printing money out of the thin air(ie: quantitative easing), and thus creating new money to pay for all that stuff that China makes for the US consumer.

    This has allowed the USA to live well beyond its means, and have a bloated and overrated military that is used to attack other small countries that cannot effectively defend themselves and thus create great profits for the military-industrial complex, at the expense of millions of foreign lives and only some thousands of US soldiers.

    This sort of regime change operation is actually no more than a stock market pump and dump operation, first you demonize some little country with false accusations, sanction them and provoke them into doing some hostile acts, or pretend that they have made some human rights violation like using poison gas or are committing genocide or incarceration of a minority, then bomb the shit out of them, and then rack in all that weapons used and resupply bucks. Maybe after that, install a puppet govt and steal their resources.

    Oh Yeah, Big Daddy Warbucks! Go USA!

    Also, by having the US dollar as the reserve currency(past cleverness no longer present), all other countries have to keep a supply of dollars for trading and thus the demand for this imaginary currency and also demand for US Treasuries. Thus countries buy US debt, further funding the USA’s bloated military and overspending.

    Everybody knows the USA will never pay back that debt, and also the debt will never go down. It will just go up and up until nobody wants to use the US dollar or hold US debt and then the US dollar will crash.

    This is the way that the shit-faced USA rapes the world financially, and everybody knows this.

    The USA was founded on the genocide of the Red Indians and the stealing of their land. The USA made 200 treaties with the Red Indians and broke every one.

    After that, the USA grew fat on the slave labor of innocent Africans, raping their women and “going black” in reverse.

    But Trump is even better, with his family descending from primitive savages in the black forest of Germany. Sometimes they caught the wild boars there and reamed them good, sometimes the wild boars caught THEM and reamed them good.

    In any case, Trump’s grand-daddy fled conscription and came to the USA as a lice-ridden and filthy immigrant, but made good selling liquor and supplying prostitutes to the miners. A pimp.

    And Trump’s daddy was a KKK member, arrested at a KKK rally after being too slow to run away from the police, and then became a front-man for Nazi business interests in the USA before WW2.

    From Drumpf to Trump, but in the end, no change to the clown-like shit-show called the Trump drama series.

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
    • Replies: @Ponder
  76. Wow. a very precise shot at America’s most underlying problem:

    These individuals are vital for the success of the transformation of the US to a fascist state, with the elites dependent upon them to execute their policies, yet they also profit from their positions in terms of attractive salaries and protection from much of the law. These are the people who best know of all the crimes and social injustices, being in fact a willing part of their execution process, but least likely to blow the whistle for fear of damaging their careers. It is the middle level of educated executives, lawyers, accountants and managers in government, criminal corporations, Foundations, think tanks, the media, and so many others, who are directly responsible for knowingly inflicting the vast damage on their own people and nation

    A very illuminating description of modern day America, no punches pulled by Larry Romanoff.

  77. Tom Welsh says:
    @Saggy

    Since you couldn’t be bothered, I looked at the second source for low educational standards cited in the article. True, it is also by Larry Romanoff. But it contains quite a lot of citations. To save you the trouble of following the link, here they are.

    (1) Dr. Andreas Schleicher who was in charge of the PISA test on behalf of OECD, said “While that’s important, for me the real significance of these results is that they refute the commonly held hypothesis that China just produces rote learning. Large fractions of these students extrapolate from what they know and apply their knowledge very CREATIVELY in novel situations. In my opinion, it’s the American k-12 education which has failed miserably in teaching the American students the solid basics, has to be reformed.”

    He also added this: “I have no respect for a large number of the Chinese students who come to U.S. for UNDERGRADUATE study. Most of these students are from well-off families and and academically too weak to get into decent Chinese colleges. The real smart Chinese students are the ones who finish their undergraduate education in China and come to the U.S. for graduate study and beyond.”

    (2) What You Need to Know About the International Test Scores; https://www.huffpost.com/entry/international-test-scores_b_4379533

    (3) Global Test Shows U.S. Stagnating – Education Week; https://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2013/12/11/14pisa-2.h33.html

    (4) Vietnam Wallops U.S. on Test Scores; https://www.huffpost.com/entry/vietnam-wallops-us-on-tes_b_7290682

    (5) Asian countries top OECD’s latest PISA survey; http://www.oecd.org/…countries-top-oecd-s-latest-pisa-survey-on-state-of-global-education.htm

    (6) In PISA Test, Top Scores From Shanghai Stun Experts; https://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/07/education/07education.html

    (7) The National Assessment of Education Progress, or NAEP — called the Nation’s Report Card — is an exam given to fourth-grade and eighth-grade students throughout the country by the National Center for Education Statistics, a branch of the U.S. Department of Education . . . results released Wednesday show a slight decline between 2013 and 2015. Only 36 percent of fourth-grade students and 34 percent of eighth-grade students in 2015 scored high enough to be considered proficient or above in reading. In math, 40 percent of fourth-grade students and 33 percent of eighth-grade students scored proficient or above. Many experts have stated that Americans are “uneducated to a degree unmatched by many third-world countries”.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/naep-scores_562fd4fde4b06317990fcf74

    (8) The Washington, DC radio station, WTOP, reported in 2016 that only 25% of American 12th graders are able to write an essay. Many educators called in to say they thought the number was too high..

    (9) Scores for Class of 2014 show no improvement
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/sat-scores-for-class-of-2014-show-no-improvement-from-previous-marks/2014/10/06/80beb554-4d5b-11e4-aa5e-7153e466a02d_story.html

    (10) Average SAT Scores Over Time: https://blog.prepscholar.com/average-sat-scores-over-time

    (11) SAT scores at lowest level in 10 years; https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/sat-scores-at-lowest-level-in-10-years-fueling-worries-about-high-schools/2015/09/02/6b73ec66-5190-11e5-9812-92d5948a40f8_story.html

    (12) John Taylor Gatto “Dumbing Us Down” https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/41319.John_Taylor_Gatto

    (13) God Created Gravity: Why the U.S. Can’t Keep Pace With …
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/god-created-gravity-why-t_b_4387942

    (14) Only 25 Per Cent of All Americans Go to College and Only 16 Per Cent of These Actually Try to Learn Anything. The Unz Review; Alexander Cockburn • March 23, 2012; https://www.unz.com/acockburn/the-myth-of-the-knowledge-economy/

    (15) US adults are dumber than the average human; https://nypost.com/2013/10/08/us-adults-are-dumber-than-the-average-human/

    (16) US adults rank below average in global survey of basic education skills
    https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2013/10/08/us-adults-rank-below-average-global-survey-basic-education-skills

    (17) National Assessment of Adult Literacy; https://nces.ed.gov/naal

    (18) Literacy Statistics | National Adult Literacy Survey; http://www.americanliteracy.com/publication-literacy-statistics.html

    (19) Author: Irwin S. Kirsch; National Adult Literacy Survey (NALS); https://nces.ed.gov/statprog/handbook/pdf/nals.pdf

    (20) Just How Stupid Are We? https://www.amazon.com/Just-How-Stupid-Are-We/dp/0465014933

    (21) Terence P. Jeffrey, October 28, 2015; Detroit Public Schools: 93% Not Proficient in Reading; 96% Not Proficient in Math
    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/detroit-public-schools-93-not-proficient-reading-96-not-proficient

    (22) http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/03/03/08_learning.html
    Learning to Be Stupid in the Culture of Cash; March 8, 2003; By Luciana Bohne

    (23) On November 18, 2015, Christopher Ingraham wrote in the Washington Post that Ben Carson’s presidential campaign inadvertently underscored this point Tuesday night, when it took to social media to share a map of the United States in which five New England states were placed in the wrong location.

    (24) https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/11/18/ben-carsons-campaign-made-a-u-s-map-and-put-a-bunch-of-states-in-the-wrong-place/?tid=pm_pop_b

    (25) Dr. Peng Shi | USC CAIS; http://www.cais.usc.edu/news/prediction-and-optimization-in-school-choice/.

    (26) No Division Required in This School Problem; https://www.nytimes.com/…/13/education/no-division-required-in-this-school-problem.html

    (27) In another televised beauty pageant, a high school girl was asked to explain a quote by Confucius. In response, she said: “Confucius was one of the men who invented confusion.”

    (28) https://www.unz.com/runz/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/

    (29) An article in Forbes magazine stated that “America’s Millennials Are Among the World’s Least Skilled”. Specifically, they are short on literacy, numeracy, ability to follow simple orders, poor at solving problems.

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
  78. padre says:
    @76239

    In other words, USA is still better than Africa?I won’t argue that!

  79. Tom Welsh says:
    @Icy Blast

    “In about the sixth paragraph, the author started telling whopping lies about race”.

    Do you have any evidence for your rather extreme claim?

    Any at all?

    • Replies: @Icy Blast
  80. Moi says:
    @d dan

    The US is effed, as in finito. Only Americans are too stupid to know that.

  81. vot tak says:

    A thoroughly enjoyable article. Thanks, LR.

  82. Another fact goes unmentioned: the US has the largest number of unindicted war criminals in the post-WW II world, a fact that allows for an escalation of war crimes committed. For those here who refuse to accept the racist nature of our country, they need only look at the ethnic makeup of the millions of victims of our unprovoked foreign wars of aggression.

  83. Lol says:

    How retarded do you have to be to think killing minorities in the US is acceptable when each thug committing suicide by cop becomes a national conversation is beyond me, especially when blacks pretty much slaughter each other and everyone else in crime stats.

  84. Lol says:
    @Tom Welsh

    Yes and the vast majority of criminals, idiots on welfare for generations etc. Do you suck Alex nowrasteh’s dick and count day laborers as entrepreneurs? Lmao

  85. sb says:
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    You read a lot about the “extermination of Tasmanian aborigines ” by writers who have not read up on the subject
    This claim is made frequently by woke” history war” zealots .

    Well Tasmanian aborigines were few-numbered in the thousands -and probably well on the road to extinction if left uninterrupted
    They overwhelmingly died of disease through lack of immunity – haven’t we heard this before ?
    Some were killed in skirmishes but attempts to capture them were notoriously unsuccessful so that can’t be it .
    Those who survived chose not to breed probably through ,admittedly, broken hearts and spirits.

    To say they are extinct is to say there are no “full bloods ”
    By this measure many white Europeans are not so being less than 100% white European and there are no New Zealand Maoris -as it is accepted all contemporary Maoris have some European heritage .
    Of course there are those who lie about such things

    • Replies: @Larry Romanoff
    , @Jiminy
  86. “America is one of the two most racist countries in the world…”

    What is the other one, Larry? What exactly is a “racist” anyway?

    “Americans are gun-crazy, owning more guns than the entire rest of the world combined, and more guns than all the world’s police and military. They carry their guns everywhere, and use them everywhere…”

    I guess you’ve been busy, Larry, counting guns all over the world and tracking American gun owners everywhere.

    Wild, mindless bloviating in the style of a fat, tattooed-lady SJW.

    Why is Ron giving this dope a forum for this raving nonsense?

    http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2020/08/systematic-racism-defining-deviancy-down.html

  87. Icy Blast says:
    @Tor597

    You’re just messing with people. If only you had the sense of humor of Tiny Duck.

  88. Icy Blast says:
    @Tom Welsh

    Mencken was an unapologetic German-American. I think the U.S.A. would be able to muddle through without your friends. It would just have 40% fewer people. As for your quotation from Mencken concerning stupid solutions – “…neat, plausible, and wrong,” – he was no doubt referring to Marxism.

  89. You have forgotten to mention that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton profited from kowtowing to whites.

    Jesse Jackson was exposed as having an illegitimate child only because one African-American firm donated money to his group and then was cut out of the AT&T bond deal.

    Please read Shakedown, a book about Jesse Jackson.

    As for Al Sharpton, I wrote for a black newspaper, which was founded by Africans, who had immigrated to the United States. They had a very low opinion of Al Sharpton; but they loved the fact that he had not paid taxes or a legal judgment.

    The Publisher was laughing when Al Sharpton’s office went up in flames thus destroying his lack of financial records.

    Thank you.

    Edward Manfredonia

    Edward

    Edward Manfredonia

  90. Biff says:
    @Tor597

    There’s a reason that North Sentinel Island would never be allowed to exist as is inside the borders of the United States. It’s because “EVERYTHING” has to be subjugated.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sentinel_Island

  91. @Tor597

    Truthfully, the media attacks everyone except for the chosen people.

    White people are just sensitive and can’t take any criticism at all.

    I think you’re right about the “Chosen People” – they exercise inordinate influence with absolute impunity.

    However, that in itself should alert thinking people to the patterned narrative that the media is feeding us, and why.

  92. @Saggy

    Excellent point. If the U.S. education system sucks per Romanoff’s fantasmagorical opinion, why do his beloved Chinese pack as many of their precious little ones into U.S. universities?
    Don’t even bother pointing out facts to Romanoff. He’s nothing more than a shill for the Chinese.

  93. Realist says:
    @Patagonia Man

    The way debate works is, one makes a claim, in this case L. Romanoff, and others attempt to refute it.

    I did refute it. The statement America is one of the two most racist countries in the world, where even the random and unprovoked killing of non-whites is not only permissible but usually meets with approval. is so goddamn stupid…that one who make it (Romanoff) and one who defends it (you) is a dumb fuck. That is my opinion…if you don’t like it don’t read or reply to my comments. I have better things to do than debate with a goddamn idiot.

    If you’re so worried about blacks dying…why don’t you go to the big cities and try to talk the stupid bastards out of killing each other?

    • Agree: Icy Blast, Poco
    • Replies: @Rev. Spooner
  94. Realist says:
    @Tom Welsh

    Not necessarily. Many places in Africa are very nice to live in.

    Name one?

  95. Mefobills says:
    @Tor597

    White on Asian assaults and rapes are much higher than the reverse.

    That data is available in the Color of Crime report.

    The numbers of Black on White crime relative to White on Asian crime are not comparable…not even in the same statistical realm.

    For the most part, northeastern asians and whites get along fine, as both racial groups evolved in last ice age, for high trust shaming or guilt cultures.

    https://www.amren.com/the-color-of-crime/

    • Replies: @Tor597
  96. So this website is not ultra-conservative right wing?

    • Replies: @foolisholdman
  97. upro says:

    I’m sure your fanboys in China loved this story Larry.

  98. upro says:

    Larry is a classic white uncle type. The Japanese rightwing have their own “white guy who is on our side” who spouts their beliefs in english about how the Rape of Nanking never happened, Japan didn’t start the war, Tojo dindu nuffin and they love him for it. Larry is the Chinese version. Larry’s worldview = China never did anything wrong in its entire history. Tienamen was a myth, Great Leap Foward famine was a myth, forced abortions due to One Child Policy is a myth, China’s neighbours hating China’s guts is a myth, America bad, America bad, America bad.

    Can you name even one negative thing about China’s government?

    • Replies: @trickster
  99. Mefobills says:
    @Tom Welsh

    “Expel every non-European foreign born person”.

    Whooops! And there goes a large percentage of the USA’s scientists, engineers, doctors and other highly intelligent professionals.

    “Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong”.

    You will have to explain why America prior to 1965 immigration act, was a scientific and intellectual powerhouse, without peer in the world.

    Whites were 89% of the population of the U.S. in 1965, and the amount of northeast asians, and sub-continent Asians was statistically insignificant (1 percent or less). This white co-hort of 89% had the additional drag of a black population that is not known for its engineering and technical prowess.

    • Replies: @foolisholdman
  100. This is a fast but excellent piece in placing a mirror on America in the 21st Century. I for one dont understand why there are so many negative replies to LR’s conclusions. There are obviously many so called White Nationalists or Patriots (both real and fake) venting rage here, that still believe they are “Exceptional” above the rest of the non-Anglo Saxon world, but as LR says the exceptionalism might be more on the negative side these days. The critics need to grow up and take responsibility for the mess the US is now in, in order to fix things, if that is their real goal.

    I find his bullet list of conclusions to be basically in line, but of course there surely exists a similar bullet list of positive achievements to the US experiment as well, but that was obviously not the thrust of this article. As should be well understood, self aggrandizement does not fix anything.

    What all Americans should agree on is the US national experiment is being sunk maybe even per plan, from certain elements of the controlling leadership, but not necessarily by us “bottom feeders” as the moneyed elite like to call the rest of us these days.

    The cries of outrage and venom being spewed at LR would be better placed into how to fix things in the USA and how the population can come together to put America back on a sane and positive coarse that serves the entire populace, not those who just consider them Chosen of some sort. What we have had the last 40 years, is surely a divide and conquer mission by the two parties.

    For me the LR bullet list is a fairly accurate of national examples that demonstrate a societal and governance destruction. My exceptions are :

    The most strident nationalism of all nations
    Highest level of racism and race-related violence

    Other countries can be exemplified here of potentially taking the lead, one being our Most Favored
    State, which is a large part of our national problem, suckering our leadership at every turn, and plundering our wealth and ethos.

    • Agree: Kali, GomezAdddams
  101. Icy Blast says:
    @Vinnyvette

    I don’t think “Larry Romanoff” has ever been to the United States.

    • Replies: @Saggy
    , @trickster
  102. Mefobills says:
    @niteranger

    Here is the economic data for why immigration is a net negative, which bolsters your argument:

    https://cis.org/Report/Immigration-and-American-Worker

    It is actually worse than the report suggests, because a mult-cultural tower of babble civilization is low trust.

    Low trust has many knock on effects that are not captured in GDP figures. Bottom line is that if people don’t have trusting relations, then that is an enormous drag on quality of life and ability to produce. Did I say enormous? Yes, in the full sense of the word.

    After Putnam’s data came out, there should be nobody alive advocating for immigration of diverse types of peoples.

    https://www.saddleback.edu/faculty/agordon/documents/Bowling_Alone.pdf

    I notice there is a lot more ignorance at Unz.com lately. It is probably due to common core kids coming of age. Common core edumakation dumbed down a whole generation, and filled their heads with nonsense.

    • Agree: frontier
  103. upro says:

    Romanoff on Uighur prison camps: blah blah blah western media lie, nobody is mistreated, zionist media, Uighurs have bad cultural habits, the Han Chinese generously wants to help them

    Romanoff on the Cultural Revolution: More people died in Woodstock then the so called CIA Cultural Revolution. It was a great Chinese campaign to get rid of Jewish culture. Most Chinese young people had a good time, everything bad you read about is a western media lie.

    Romanoff on the Taiping Rebellion: CIA backed color revolution to overthrow legitimate Chinese government. Jews.

  104. @sb

    “Of course there are those who lie about such things”

    True, and I’m sorry to say you are one of these. Each single statement you made in your post is factually untrue. I don’t understand why you believe it is a good idea to post such thoroughly false information. How do you gain from this?

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Half-Jap
    , @sb
  105. G J T says:

    America is one of the two most racist countries in the world, where even the random and unprovoked killing of non-whites is not only permissible but usually meets with approval.

    You lose all credibility with this ridiculous comment.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
  106. Saggy says:
    @Tom Welsh

    You could site one hundred article, the idea that the US educational system is not one of the best if not the best in the world is preposterous on its face.

    • Replies: @Tom Welsh
  107. Realist says:
    @Tom Welsh

    Whooops! And there goes a large percentage of the USA’s scientists, engineers, doctors and other highly intelligent professionals.

    This country did fine until we started immigration from non white countries…this country was built by white Europeans. Your statement is ridiculous.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
  108. Realist says:
    @Larry Romanoff

    True, and I’m sorry to say you are one of these. Each single statement you made in your post is factually untrue. I don’t understand why you believe it is a good idea to post such thoroughly false information. How do you gain from this?

    Kettle…black. Right back at you. You are a bozo.

  109. Z-man says:

    What no mention of the 500 pound gorilla in the room? (Star of David here) ROFL!!
    The one thing I can agree with this poser is that of income inequality. The top 1-2% should be made to pay their fair share which is a lot more than they are paying now.
    This is one of the two Trump policies I am against. Granted they are big issues but I bet he is forced to tow the line by the corporate thugs/GOP right wing on the tax breaks for the rich and ‘The Lobby’ on the other thing*.

    *Spoken like the give and take dialogue between Joe Viterelli & Billy Crystal in ‘Analyze This’. LOL!

  110. This is a very article. The last few paragraphs are especially on target.

    I’ll probably link to it.

  111. frontier says:
    @Tom Welsh

    It’s quite boring to read the half truths of Mr. Larry Madoff,, um, or was he Romanoff? The supporting troll brigade is no better. If Africa is a better place, why so many Africans risk their lives to come here? If US is the worst, why we have to build walls to keep out the influx of people from glorious happy countries? Which other country has more immigration?

    When we look at crime rates per race, white America is no worse than EU.

    Racism? Yes – their is racism in US, it’s written in law and its anti-white.

    Lots’a Guns? After Antifa and “defund the police”, anyone who argues against guns is a subversive moron.

    The BS becomes even more obvious when we consider the article’s lack of any hint of analysis… replaced by idiotic assumptions. Who said America was the best? If that was the case we wouldn’t be on this site, discussing real problems and the reasons for them. We regularly try to analyze the problems of healthcare, debt, deficit, immigration, crime, redistribution, education, media, etc and in that light, the article is less than useless, the only conceivable purpose for it is subversive trolling.

    The article quality on this site is going down… Yesterday two black hos made the top spot… as if anybody cares. If it wasn’t for Unz I wouldn’t know about their existence…

    • Agree: Z-man, Realist
    • Replies: @Z-man
    , @Kali
    , @Realist
  112. sonofman says:

    This should be the title and subtitle of this article:

    The Destruction of American Exceptionalism

    The consequences of the decisions and policies of selfish, corrupt, traitorous and dishonorable politicians who are the puppets of the international corporate and finance elite

  113. @Realist

    If I were an American black, which I’m not, I would much rather live in Angola. My most recent trip there with my Chinese university has convinced me that Chinese imperialism will be much better than the White kind, because the Blacks aren’t going to be treated like coddled children and instead the Low-IQ labor that they know they are. They seem to rather like it as well.

    No one actually enjoys being a welfare-class — name one society that has chosen gibs over honest work. It is certainly not the negro, because there are no jobs here to begin with, Whites rightly repressed them for 80 years post emancipation, and then gave them make-work for Shlomo, Inc for another 40 before cosigning to them welfare bin where they are paid lower-middle class wages to stew in their own hatred. Real unemployment in the Failed State of America is upwards of 25% and has been since the 80s.

    • Agree: Showmethereal
    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Realist
  114. Saggy says:
    @Icy Blast

    I don’t think ‘Larry Romanoff’ exists.

  115. Eight hundred prison camps manned but empty? Invisible to locals, or course. He leaves out the camp at Roswell, where space aliens are interned and force to repair black helicopters and to manufacture the microchips that will be injected into us by forced vaccination.

    • Replies: @Biff
    , @Larry Romanoff
    , @Amon
  116. trickster says:

    Larry is a Ju troll released on furlough from his padded cell to irritate UNZ readers with his long and boring article of drivel and twaddle. I would like to remind Larry that the worse country in the world donates billions to his homie homeland and the population of the worst country in the world puts bread and butter on his table.

    In typical Joo Joo fashion this ingrate crumb snatcher, after sniffing out the tidbits on the masters floor, now turns around and bites the hand.

    All the worse this and worse that is sheer nonsense. I dont even have to do any research to conclude that Larry is one of the WORSE contributors to this site. His writing is utter shit.

    How is that for yet another worse.

  117. JohnF says:

    Probably a lot here is true, but let me play Alexander the Great cutting the Gordian Knot with a very simple question: if America is the worst, then why do we have so much immigration?

  118. trickster says:
    @upro

    Please…dont ask LArry to name a negative thing about another country or anything else. Who needs another 4000 words of bunk ?

    When I need to see shit, I will look at the neighbour;s dog taking a dump

  119. In one word; US is a banana republic.

  120. trickster says:
    @Icy Blast

    You are quite right. I have it from reliable sources that Larry Romnoff is not only a fake name but that he lives in WOnderland. As a result of the Corona, he has been quarantined and as you can see, the isolation and medication is having an adverse affect on his “writing”.

  121. Half-Jap says:

    Great article. For once, not something elevating China at the expense of (x), usually the USA. This is when you excel, needless for me to say; China, imo, can always stand for itself in any event without white knights. So I kinda will lol:
    It is a sad state of affairs in the USA, where I felt freer in Beijing, and of course even more freer in Tokyo, than ever in the US. Neither cities would I be pestered by beggers (or police), while in the US it is expected, and at least in Tokyo (afaik), the support is strong for these unfortunates, while poor Americans are left to their destitution or drug addled or both, and ofc, jailed.
    I agree with Paul Craig Roberts that the US is on the express train towards 3rd world status, if not already there on many aspects; whenever I am there, everything is in poor condition: even in the posh districts, the roads are crumbling, the bridge hasn’t been reinforced, sidewalk a hazard to navigate, the police are intimidating while fat and mostly doing nothing but try more intimidation to passersby (and wtf is with the banditry via ‘civil asset forfeiture?’ Not even China has such private expropriation!).
    O’ Sweet home Alabama, I never knew you.

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  122. JBW says:

    Delta is ready when you are, but, wear a mask.

  123. Half-Jap says:
    @JohnF

    The USA is the best of the worst, and has maybe the worst handle on influx of the miserables.
    Compared to Japan, the US cities are almost universally shitholes, or on the way there, where immigrants seem to be draw, though the US plantations can always use their labor.
    It’s always been a neoliberal project to open borders to destroy the citizen worker who had some rights.

  124. Half-Jap says:
    @Larry Romanoff

    Wherever there is benefit from lies, States lie. UK re Hitler, OZ re Taz, or even China re Japan, US re China today, etc.
    My appreciation of Mao was enhanced from facts, while a lot is mythology. Humans aren’t perfect, and act under circumstance for the best.
    My emperor should offer a post-humous medal to Sun Yatsen, his supporters, and Mao and his collaborators.
    Then we should figure out outstanding issues on a non-western idea of territoriality.

  125. @JohnF

    Have you ever seen the videos where black rappers drive up to the hood and throw $5 dollar bills into a crowd of homeless while their homies piss on them? Same reason why people move to America. They have deemed the ritual humiliation acceptable.

  126. Biff says:
    @Fred V. Reed

    Eight hundred prison camps manned but empty? Invisible to locals,

    Not taking a side, but in the northern half of Nevada the possibilities are endless. Wyoming too – Dick Cheney’s bunker is surrounded by human shields.

  127. @Fred V. Reed

    The existence of the FEMA camps is well-documented. I wrote a prior article that dealt with this and more, titled, ‘The Next American Revolution’.

    https://www.unz.com/lromanoff/the-next-american-revolution-anticipated-civil-unrest/

    All you needed to do was a quick search for FEMA camps in the US.

  128. gotmituns says:
    @76239

    “America is one of the two most racist countries in the world”
    —————————————————————————-
    I hope we can take over first place all to ourselves.

    • Replies: @Herald
  129. @Lee

    The queues at the border and at the embassies for US visa is due to the US Dollar. Be very careful and watchful; if you see the $ imploding, run for your life. Start preparing for it as it’s going to happen, so be prepared and have a bolthole.

  130. @Ultrafart the Brave

    Don’t you think this obsession with race race race makes Antifa and Unz reader types the same thing? I mean, to our owners, it makes no difference which race you trumpet and which race you obliquoize. What matters is that you keep whanging on about race in typical stupid ignorant manner, and don’t ever think about, as the intelligent ought, grabbing your guns and start burning down their mansions.

    • Agree: Ultrafart the Brave
    • Replies: @Supply and Demand
  131. @Realist

    You refuted just one of his many accusations and left the others. So I’ll assume they are true.
    American Exceptionalism- my ass. Just another catchy slogan for the lazy and obese with free money because the dollar is global currency.
    When the tribe is through with you all, you will wake up to a new well deserved nightmare.

    • Replies: @Realist
  132. Amon says:

    Let’s be honest, cops have zero trouble killing minorities; just as they have zero problems killing majority white folks.

    They treat the streets like it’s central Baghdad circa 2006 and every face in the crowd is a potential killer that needs to be put down hard. Which explains why a swat team was to serve a warrant for a minor drug possession and ended up busting into a house after firing a tear gas grenade into a baby crib which resulted in 3rd degrees burns all over the baby while mommy and daddy got body slammed into the ground when they tried to help their child.

    Turns out the cops forgot to check if the perp was even present, which surprise, he had not been for years. They just drove up, went for the house and then looked like idiots afterwards when they had to explain why they tried to burn a baby alive for a minor drug possession warrant.

  133. Amon says:
    @Fred V. Reed

    It’s not that hard to keep something out of the public eye. Just make it look like it belongs there, keep a light crew so it seems to be in use and no one, absolutely no one outside of the conspiracy folks will ask questions.

    Who even pays attention when they zoom past a barbwire fenced complex in the middle of nowhere, especially when it has barracks and army personal wandering around.

    Hell, they managed to run a black site in the middle of Chicago for years.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/24/chicago-police-detain-americans-black-site

    • Replies: @Alden
  134. AyeNon says:
    @Based Lad

    It is an honor to read your post Sir. You made one person’s day, at least.

  135. anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    He’s right about racism. All those people from other countries come here then group and vote together with each other in an attempt to genocide the whites are racist. Look what they do to old defenseless white people in nursing homes and even those who are able to live alone, they dump them in neighborhoods where they are attacked walking with their walkers. Yes they all are racist against white Americans. They come here to take whatever they can and vote out the white people then blame whites when they start wars in other countries. The left supported/went to war in Serbia for the Muslims, as well as Afghanistan, Libya, Egypt, Yemen, Tunisia and Syria, why they didn’t want to go to Iraq is a mystery. Somehow I doubt that all the white supremacists in this country would go to war in a middle eastern / African country because of inequality. I just can’t imagine the white nationalists, wanting to skip around the world for democracy. I can’t see the Christian Identity Movement, the Amish, or even the West borough Baptists, wanting to overthrow governments for gay rights, human rights or anything else.
    Yes he is right and they are racist. We might be supremacists be we aren’t racist enough to go bother people with it.

  136. @obwandiyag

    Unz readers believe the American mansion is their birthright. I suspect this is because a few thousand goyim have sniffed the giant ass of Jewish power up close, and have mistaken it for their own.

    • Agree: jsigur
  137. WJ says:
    @76239

    Yeah, this dipshit writer is off his medications or parts of his post are not so subtle parody.

  138. anon[133] • Disclaimer says: • Website
    @76239

    BS article start-to-finish dependent on the usual gimmicked far-left statistics and totalitarian socialist rhetoric or false comparisons.

    The 1930’s wants its propaganda back.

    If UNZ is trying to please the leftists who banned it, good luck.

    • Agree: Realist
  139. @TKK

    As a criminal defense lawyer, I can tell you unequivocally that is not true. It is delusional.

    If you walk down the street and gun down a black who is NOT beating nor robbing you, you will be arrested for his death. Full stop. Even in the South. If evidence is found you premeditated to kill him, or killed him with a depraved heart, you could face the death penalty.

    Arrested is one thing….prosecution for murder is another:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin

  140. WJ says:
    @TKK

    You hit it spot. This odd post hit on some truths but his racial segment is the equivalent of saying 2 + 2 = 5. DOJ and FBI statistics completely contradicts his garbage about blacks being murdered with impunity. The Cannon Hinnants exceed the un-justified un armed killings of black people.

  141. JohnF says:
    @Larry Romanoff

    Well, I thought I was going to have to re-read your article carefully and follow up with some of my own research to educate myself about some things. But you’ve just lost ALL credibility with me or any fair-minded person. It’s actually just the opposite of what say, and clearly so. If a cop kills a black person his life is probably over, and even if he is officially cleared of wrongdoing it will follow him the rest of his life. On the other hand if a cop kills a white guy it MIGHT make the local news. Blacks are actually privileged in their treatment by police, among many other ways.

    I could go on and on with examples but you’ve already seen at least some of those examples – you must have – so you are simply being dishonest (the article you’ve written may still be good but if you can’t see that black lives are treated with WAY more respect than white lives in this country then you have piss-poor judgement even if you may still be a good researcher). Instead I’ll just show you an example you might not have already seen (probably have not already seen) and ask you the simple question of how the Tony Timpa case is different from the George Floyd case (other than the obvious, we didn’t have looting/violence/murder and literally billions of dollars worth of damage worldwide due to riots after the Tony Timpa incident). Tony Timpa like George Floyd had a heart attack while in police custody. The officers involved with the Timpa case are back on duty after having been investigated, and I think rightly so – the video shows them being insensitive (to put it politely) but at the end of the day they are cops and not doctors.

    • Replies: @Biff
  142. jsigur says:
    @Patagonia Man

    You forgot to mention Jews certainly a group that runs many of the other places you cite!

    Does that mean you are Jewish not to mention the obvious like that? Also revelations is contained within an Abrahamic religion context, and all of the Abrahamic religions were started by and serve Jewish aims. All three are great ppl controlling devices

    • Replies: @Anon
  143. Mefobills says:
    @Based Lad

    The coup de grace: end universal suffrage. Problems gone. Get a grip kiddo.

    Liberalism and it (((tenets))) make easy in-roads into Western Civilization. This is done by usury out of finance which funds clown world hypnosis.

    Who is easiest to hypnotize and dupe? Women. White women are especially a problem as they become less feminine year on year. What real man wants a porker hildebeast? This then turns the women even more toward the government as her sugar daddy.

    Allowing women to become voters was and is a disaster. Universal suffrage democracy is a joke, as population become non-critical thinkers. Women are much less likely to be critical thinkers, and instead operate with emotion.

    Note that BLM tends to be white women who have been duped with liberalism, white soy boys who want some poon, and easily maneuvered negroes.

    We don’t let children vote.

  144. jsigur says:
    @GreatSocialist

    As you happily ignore the insanity of the left wing media and their role in inciting the mayhem occurring now and also as you ignore the enabling of the bad behavior by NWO entities in silent control of the police force that stands down to left violence and makes up facts about nationalist right violence

  145. @JohnF

    You ask a good question. One obvious reason is that many of those immigrating to the US, or trying to, are from countries that you have trashed with your brutal military and trade policies and, for many of them, life has no longer any hope at home and they believe they have a better chance to survive economically in the US. That may be true for them, because they aren’t interested in the political or most of the social problems. They just want to survive.

    Another category are those wealthy enough so as to bypass the political troubles.

    But I think one major answer is that most of them know only the positive propaganda that the US spreads through the VOA, Radio Free Asia, Radio Free Europe, and through the control of the mass media in many nations. Most people in most countries are not aware of the negatives because they have few sources of information other than those emanating from the US itself or under the control of the same media people. You must know this, but the CIA owns newspapers in many countries. I don’t have a total, but it isn’t small, and through this ownership they propagate the chastity of America. In Western countries, the governments don’t object, and in the poorer nations the governments don’t dare object.

    A supplementary item is that it is only the US that so openly trashes every other country. In China, it is only during the past year or so, with all the intense provocations, that the media are saying anything negative about the US. I have never seen this before. It simply isn’t the cultural practice of most other countries to point fingers and say “Look. See how bad he is.” It’s only Americans who do this, or at least primarily Americans. And thus residents of other nations have no ready access to all the negative information. If they did have, they wouldn’t even be thinking of visiting, much less emigrating.

    Social changes usually occur slowly but take on an air of permanence when they do occur. I know that for Chinese citizens, ten or twenty years ago many who went to the US to study thought they would like to remain there, perhaps the majority. Today, it is only a small minority who want to stay; almost all students get their foreign degree and head for home where life is better.

    It may require yet another ten years or twenty years but (if we avoid a world war in this time), I think the desire to go to the US to either study or live, will have run its course.

    I have Chinese friends in the US who have quite high-level positions and good jobs, and who regret very much having US citizenship now because of the anti-Chinese racism and the deteriorating environment. Even they are now thinking of returning to China, even having lost their citizenship.

    • Replies: @Ilya G Poimandres
  146. denk says:

    Uncle sham the exceptional,
    voting record in the UN….

    tip of an iceberg.

    UN votes on prohibition of chemical and biological weapons.
    109-1

    insure United Nations decisions on the maintenance of international peace and security.
    119-1

    Calls for an end to all military and nuclear collaboration with the apartheid South Africa.
    114-1

    n disarmament and cessation of the nuclear arms race.
    120-1

    alternative approaches within the United Nations system for improving the enjoyment of human rights and fundamental freedoms.
    136-1

    Opposes support for intervention in the internal or external affairs of states.
    104-1

    United Nations Conference on Women.
    121-1

    Condemns Israeli policy regarding the living conditions of the Palestinian people.
    118-1

    Afirms the right of self determination for the Palestinians.
    120-1

    Endorses the Program of Action for Second Half of United Nations Decade for Women.
    132-1

    Declaration of non-use of nuclear weapons against non-nuclear states.
    110-1

    Emphasises that the development of nations and individuals is a human right.
    120-1

    Calls for the cessation of all nuclear test explosions.
    130-1

    Prohibition of manufacture of new weapons of mass destruction.
    116-1

    Reversing the arms race.
    133-1

    Congrats,
    Uncle sham is truly exceptional,
    Always at the right side of history.

    hehhehehe

    • Agree: Majority of One
    • Thanks: d dan
  147. @Vinnyvette

    Excellent point. If the U.S. education system sucks per Romanoff’s fantasmagorical opinion, why do his beloved Chinese pack as many of their precious little ones into U.S. universities?

    At the doctoral level (Phd), some Universities in the US still offer world leading education/opportunities. However, this isn’t the case at the “regular” undergraduate level. Also, the Chinese “little ones” coming to the USA and elsewhere to get an undergraduate degree are mostly “the inferior academic students” who did not have the grades to get into a Chinese University.

    Now, if these below average Chinese rejects are graduating near the top of the class in American Universities, what does that say about the native populations academic abilities?

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  148. A truth told with bad intent
    Beats all the lies you can invent.
    – William Blake

    Has it occurred to anybody that the evidence the author presents is both a cause and a consequence of a LACK of “exceptionalism” — a sneering word that encompasses not just irrational entitlement but has gradually and insidiously been applied to the fundamental pride and self-worth that people naturally want to feel about their country?

    There are far more critics — whether actually informed, reflexively antagonistic, or merely sufficiently propagandized — than there are people willing to do the actual work to regain reasons for pride and common identity. The antidote to exceptionalism’s dark side is not through encouraging a self-hating, self-sabotaging mindset.

    I feel bad for all the populations who are so demoralized and globalized that they no longer feel any reason to regard their own country as unique and deserving of pride. I’m sure some of them get a nice rush of schadenfreude to join in the rising chorus of demeaning another country which has achieved so much — all the time aided and abetted by the domestic voices that drown out and demean the will and worth of their own people.

    • Replies: @Majority of One
  149. Z-man says:
    @frontier

    It’s quite boring to read the half truths of Mr. Larry Madoff,, um, or was he Romanoff?

    Good one! (Grin)

  150. The only thing exceptional about the ZUS is their ability to invade and bomb and destroy any country that suits the greater Israel agenda and their ability to fight Israels wars and sacrifice Americans for Israel, while at the same time killing millions of innocent men , women and children in the mideast, all for Israel.

    The ability of the ZUS to create and arm and support AL CIADA aka ISIS and all off shoots thereof to do their dirty work of the final destruction of the mideast and all of this murder and destruction, again all this for zionist Israel, truly this is exceptional.

    Also what other nation besides the ZUS would have let Israel and the zionist traitors in the ZUS government attack the USS Liberty and kill 34 and wound 174 and get away with it, and attack and destroy the WTC on 911, killing some 3000 Americans and get away with it, yes , the ZUS is truly exceptional.

    • Agree: Robjil
  151. macilrae says:

    The article is fascinating, horrifying and largely coincides with observations we aliens have been making for the past several decades – more than several, actually, for those of us who are old enough. Larry Romanoff has anticipated some of the reactions he’d engender and appears to have thoroughly rehearsed having to to refute them.

    As has been observed by some more objective commenters, reactions to racial issue seem to have eclipsed all the others in certain people’s minds. Yet the bulk of what is said is so completely spot on that this is really just reduced to a quibble.

    Furthermore, and this is absolutely fascinating, an amazing number of comments blast Larry as a likely (and now apparently confirmed) foreigner for daring to venture upon this topic – attacking him for his temerity – rather than for what he is saying! A lot of dangerous-sounding people, angry and profoundly unhappy to be confronted with the truth they have so long been attempting to deny.

    Those who live in the more affluent European countries should not be complacent either – much of what is said here is increasingly applicable to them – UK probably being the foremost among these.

    • Agree: Kali, Showmethereal
    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  152. Scanning both the article and comments, what I have learned in the last 5 years – specifically with my website and DaLimbraw Library – and generally before that as I read the many, many well researched articles by various authors – no one has total insight or accuracy as to all the facts they report on. That’s just the way it is – we’re human!
    To throw out the entire premise of an author because it doesn’t meet with our pet opinion is delusional – the presumption being that we have it 100% correct. To repeat, and I quote Justice Clarence Thomas from his book: “No one has 100% of the gospel!”
    Everything I have learned has come from other people – all just as fallible as I am – but they sure did their job as researchers and writers from which I benefited. Their skills benefited DaLimbraw Library and continue to do so.
    What I find valuable from Larry Romanoff is the overall PERSPECTIVE which he presents. At the same time, his lengthy essays seriously challenge the folks with reading comprehension problems.
    I have discussed and addressed that issue with a number of people including some who teach. The conclusion is unmistakable – that skill has all but disappeared from our conversations because it is no longer taught. Most folks simply grab on to something familiar in the text, relate some anecdotal experience about it and assume they’ve read and understood it. The fact is, they’re incapable of understanding it – reading comprehension!

    • Agree: AnonCN
    • Replies: @Realist
  153. bob jones says:

    jews and blacks.

    capsule summary

  154. Realist says:
    @Rev. Spooner

    You refuted just one of his many accusations and left the others. So I’ll assume they are true.

    You mean you are looking to me for guidance? You don’t know how to think for yourself? I don’t care what you assume…grow a pair.

    I have better things to do than refute a dumbass.

  155. Stogumber says:
    @Tom Welsh

    Here in Germany, Andreas Schleicher has a bad reputation. He is by profession a statistician but prefers the role of pope in pedagogics, knowing exactly what the different states have to do to improve their education. I suppose that his statistic tables are sound, but would not trust him otherwise.

  156. Realist says:
    @Supply and Demand

    If I were an American black, which I’m not, I would much rather live in Angola.

    Why if you were black? Move there anyway…you appear to have their low IQ.

    My most recent trip there with my Chinese university has convinced me that Chinese imperialism will be much better than the White kind, because the Blacks aren’t going to be treated like coddled children and instead the Low-IQ labor that they know they are. They seem to rather like it as well.

    It is obvious you have much destain for blacks. Are you from China? Are you Chinese? Why do you think you know the US better than I do?

    • Troll: Biff
    • Replies: @Supply and Demand
  157. bob jones says:
    @Larry Romanoff

    “If I walk down any street in America and gun down a white man, I will, barring unusual circumstances, be placed before the mercy of a criminal court. But if I walk down a street in your country and gun down a black man, barring inexplicable bad luck, I can walk away because the policeman would likely have done the same.”

    dude you seriously need to share your stash bc you’re fuckin hallucinating bigtime

    either that or you’re a deranged idiot

    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
  158. Realist says:
    @Crush Limbraw

    Everything I have learned has come from other people – all just as fallible as I am – but they sure did their job as researchers and writers from which I benefited.

    You are incapable of thinking for yourself.

    • Replies: @Crush Limbraw
  159. mirpaz says:

    BC Canada has a huge child poverty;

    https://www.sparc.bc.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/1.15-First-Call-BC-Child-Poverty-Report-Card-2018.pdf
    Homelessness and drug users are huge, seniors are also among the most vulnerable to homelessness and poverty due to very low pensions, thanks to Harper. For a country of 35 million, just in bc 175 thousand children living in poverty, is an absurd.

    https://www.uwlm.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/B.C.-Seniors-Poverty-Report-Card.pdf

    Just in 2015 there were 70 thousand seniors living in poverty. For 2019 is not out yet. Cost of living and cost of housing and food have skyrocket.

  160. aandrews says:

    “America is one of the two most racist countries in the world, where even the random and unprovoked killing of non-whites is not only permissible but usually meets with approval.”

    A fascinating map of the world’s most and least racially tolerant countries
    Washington Post

    • Replies: @Tom Welsh
    , @Wally
  161. Stogumber says:

    Some of Romanoff’s propositions contradict each other. If the U.S. citizens are thus poor, there wouldn’t be so much obesity and so much “unnecessary consumption”. Then, some problems didn’t origin in the U.S. themselves but immigrants brought them from home. Overall, Romanoff cannot explain whyever so much people try to immigrate into the United States.

    In matters of civil liberties, the United States are nowadays even more exceptional than ever. Most countries of the Anglosphere have dropped freedom of speech (remember the Canadian who said that “freedom of speech” was an American, not a Canadian idea?) and have established “Human Rights Commissions” as kangaroo courts without the traditional rules which protect the accused. And it is still only the U.S.A. that grants its citizens their “own pursuit of happiness” (an idea which was widely accepted in the West, but is now completely unheard of). We here at Germany are somewhat better off than the Brits or Canadians because we copied a lot of the American Constitution into our “Grundgesetz”.

  162. Kali says:
    @frontier

    Who said America was the best? If that was the case we wouldn’t be on this site, discussing real problems and the reasons for them.

    Bit of a rhetorical question, really (though maybe you do have a reply to offer?) ; would you say that the visitors to this website are representative of the wider population of the US?

    • Replies: @frontier
  163. Art says:

    It is unbelievable how many comments blame blacks.

    It is unbelievable how many comments don’t blame Jews.

    In most every category of US cultural failure, Jews have played a major negative immoral role.

    The Jew role in trashing our religious and family culture, their role in media, their role in foreign policy, their role in the FED and banking, have all conspired to bring us to our current degenerate condition.

    For America to get fixed, will require that the JQ be addressed – PERIOD.

    p.s. The role of the Jew controlled MSM in our decline is monumental. Nothing else comes close.

    • Agree: Robjil
  164. Richard ‘the Gorilla of Wall Street’ Fuld exemplifies USA exceptionalism best. He is the Finance Bozo that leveraged Lehman Brothers Inc. 44:1 on the erroneous assumption that the Wall Street Banking Cartel would bail him out if Lehman’s bets went South.

    The Chicago School of Economics, Princeton, MIT, Harvard, Columbia, Oxford, et cetera. all bet the farm on the fourth largest investment bank, and bankster slime Fuld until he lost the USA in the mix.

    Americans running the investment banks on Wall Street are the most exceptionally imbecilic uneducated morons on the face of Planet Earth.

    Thank God for uneducated Americans running Wall Street into the ground. Were it not for ignorant American exceptionalists governing Wall Street we would never have evidenced the Great Financial Crisis in our lifetimes.

    God bless Richard Fuld and his parents.

    RW

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
  165. @d dan

    It’s all the fault of dirty yellow rats loving Jews and their meloveyoulingtime whores … Zookie with the hoodie, anyone?

    • Troll: d dan
    • Replies: @Tor597
    , @denk
  166. @bob jones

    dude you seriously need to share your stash bc you’re fuckin hallucinating bigtime

    either that or you’re a deranged idiot

    LOL…Yes, but you forgot the most probable explanation.

    Larry is just another disgusting, lying Leftist ideologue.

    This is the same sort of outrageous bullshit the Jewmedia has been churning out day and night for the past 30 or so years. The non indoctrinated understand that the exact opposite is reality in the current US.

  167. @Realist

    Me thinks you made my point on reading comprehension – rather well, I might add!

    • Replies: @Realist
  168. Realist says:

    It is obvious that Romanoff brought his minions, hangers-on and trolls with him.

  169. Realist says:
    @Crush Limbraw

    Me thinks…

    That has never happened.

    I quote

    Everything I have learned has come from other people…

    Which means you can’t learn on your own…and it is obvious.

    • Replies: @Crush Limbraw
  170. Realist says:
    @frontier

    Racism? Yes – their is racism in US, it’s written in law and its anti-white.

    Speaking of anti-white racism.

    Go to Google Images and enter the following:

    White American men

    Now

    Black American men

    Do you see the difference in what is presented…why do you think that is?

    Now enter:

    White American couple

    Now

    American inventors

    Do you see anything strange…why do you think that is?

    For more fun you can enter:

    Black American couple…see any Whites? Why do you think that is?

    Or other iterations of your choosing.

  171. @Tor597

    The so called “Native Americans” who were here when the settlers arrived are ancestors of the people who conquered the previous groups who came across the land masses. Do you think they were here all the time? Each group crossed the Bering Land Bridge or came down the coast. Do you actually believe these people got along?

    I guess they didn’t steal the land from the previous group right? The entire race of people were wiped from the planet. No they weren’t wiped from the planet. Contrary to the popular myths of many Indians today and the PC Crowd from the boundary line of Mexico through Canada the greatest total population present was not 100 million, not 17 million as some have said but probably under 3 million. The 100 hundred million is politically correct nonsense. When the settlers arrived on the East Coast where were all the Indians? They were small tribes whose populations were limited by the environment. Where are all the bodies and the remains? We find very few compared to other areas because the numbers weren’t there.

    With modern scientific methods and an understanding of quantitative analysis this is what the land would most likely support. Most of the land didn’t support farming all year and they were mostly hunter gatherers. If you know anything about this you would have known one of the reasons they were always at each others throats was over hunting and fishing areas. If this was a “Garden of Paradise” this would have never occurred. Many tribes wanted guns to kill other tribes over grievances that went back generations. THEY HAD AN EXTREME TRIBALISTIC MENTALITY!

    And guess what they weren’t all wiped out in the Continental US and Canada! Do you know why? Because they assimilated. That’s why there’s little bit of Indian DNA in so many Americans (except for Elizabeth Warren). In fact, Indians from US and Canada have had the highest intermarry rates and always had. They were not all wiped out with disease.

    From Mexico on down there was most likely a population of 50 to 70 million. And it was the Spaniards who indeed wiped them out many with disease. With mobility disease travels whether it’s the flu, small pox, or Covid 19. Because the population was concentrated and dense, disease spreads more quickly in these areas. They also murdered them because they wouldn’t quit the blood sacrifices. So you can decide who was worse the Spaniards or the Blood and Snake Cults.

    This is history. They were conquered. Get over it. We are no more brutal than anyone else on the planet. Yet all the bastards who hate us want to come here!

    • Disagree: Showmethereal
    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
    , @Tor597
  172. @European Greek

    No, this site publishes articles which a lot of sites would refuse to publish. IOW this site is a gallant attempt to maintain freedom of speech. You can read all sorts of articles here. You will probably agree with some and disagree with others but you will seldom be bored.

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
  173. @Larry Romanoff

    Hear hear! Russian in London sent by wealthy parents in the 90s to escape the violence, all of us regret it now! 🙂

  174. @Mefobills

    A large part of the pre-WW2 European intelligensia was either Jewish or left-wing or anyway anti-NAZI and emigrated to the USA when they could. After the war under Operation Paperclip, the US imported most of the NAZI scientists they could lay their hands on. Under a similar scheme they imported a lot of Japanese scientists, particularly germ warfare specialists. Importantly also the US had an educational system which worked and had not developed its anti-intellectualism anything like as far as it has come to today.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  175. @Tom Welsh

    “Besides, black people who were born and have lived all their lives in the USA have no way of knowing how good or bad life in Africa might be.”

    You’re absolutely right. Blacks are incapable of using their smart phones or computers (let alone going to the library) to access a deluge of material published from all over the world about life in Africa. The can’t get unstuck from World Star or watching that WAP “music” video.

  176. @Anon

    Well said. I couldn’t agree more.

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    Ghislaine’s nephew got job at Hillary’s State Department

    by: Free Press International News Service
    2020-08-23
    Source: FreePressers LOGO

    Ghislaine’s nephew got job at Hillary’s State Department
    Ghislaine Maxwell and Hillary Clinton

    maxhill by N/A is licensed under Internet N/A

    FPI / August 23, 2020

    A nephew of Ghislaine Maxwell was “gifted” a position at the State Department by then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and also worked for Clinton’s 2008 and 2016 presidential campaigns, a report said.

    The celebrity tabloid OK! Magazine reported that Clinton provided Maxwell’s nephew, Alexander Djerassi, a position within her department when he was just out of college and gave him “special treatment.”

    Since Maxwell was arrested on charges of helping Jeffrey Epstein abuse underage girls, several rumors have circulated about her ties to famous figures including Bill and Hillary Clinton. Maxwell, 58, is in federal lockup in Brooklyn awaiting trial for allegedly grooming and trafficking girls for Epstein.

    The report references Djerassi’s LinkedIn profile, which lists his role at Clinton’s State Department as chief of staff for the “Office of the Assistant Secretary of State, Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs” from May 2011 to June 2012. Djerassi served as special assistant to the office from May 2009 to May 2011, his online profile says.

    Djerassi, a Yale and Princeton alum, is the son of Maxwell’s sister Isabel.

    Djerassi’s name was also discovered in a collection of Clinton’s emails that were hacked by WikiLeaks. In a November 2011 message, Assistant Secretary Jeffrey Feltman referred to his “special assistant, Alex Djerassi.” Feltman mentioned Djerassi again in a January 2012 email, according to WikiLeaks.

    From September 2007 to June 2008, Djerassi was a policy associate for Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign.

    Djerassi lists a job as “national security policy planner” for the “Clinton-Kaine Presidential Transition Team” in 2016.

    The Daily Beast reported that Epstein visited the Clinton White House multiple times in the ’90s, and Maxwell attended Chelsea Clinton’s wedding in 2010.

  178. @Patagonia Man

    There is some reason to believe that the first beast of Rev 13 is the “jewish collective” and the second beast is the office of president of the U.S. (particularly the post 9/11 office of president into which the first beast has de facto consolidated political power).

  179. @macilrae

    I doubt Europe is any better off. The engineered migrant waves of the last decade is going to destroy it too.

    The pea brains can’t handle anything outside of their safe cocoons and echo chambers.

    It is why they attack Larry relentlessly instead of talking about the info in his article.

    To all the Retarded anons, you want to prove a point? Refute one of Larry’s points. He provides sources, so you should too.

  180. @Realist

    I’m white (of Finnish extraction, laugh all you like) grew up in Milwaukee, spent the first 38 years of my life in America, and the past 6 in China after marrying my wife and having a beautiful daughter. It opened my eyes to quite a bit — especially how industrious blacks can be when not coddled by goodwhite civilization and managed by chinamen.

  181. upro says:

    The Chinese shill is posting in the wrong place. How receptive are white “race realists” going to be to this White America is racist to non-whites nonsense? He should post this to asian incel forums where he’ll get a much positive reaction. Those are his natural readership next to CCP officials.

  182. Truiop says:

    What a shitshow. Babylon

  183. @niteranger

    Excellent post, but this sack of shit you are responding to is just another indoctrinated white American hater. Check out his previous posts to get an idea. (If you can stomach it).

  184. Great essay. “America” is an example of how evil destroys itself (and anything and everything it can take down with it). The worse things get in “America,” the more “America” must lash out against any country that is a good example by comparison; that is, any country with a government that at least tries to do something for “the people” must be destroyed.

    “Since 2008, according to the US government’s own statistics, the US has the lowest percentage of home ownership at 57%[6], ranked 43rd in the world, far below China at 90%[7], and America now has a virtual epidemic of homelessness compared to most other nations, with untabulated millions of homeless families with children.”

    The housing issue is a very good specific example of calculated evil at work in a domestic context. Since satanists seek to rise to the top not by their own merits, but by bringing everyone and everything else down, one thing they had to do in order to achieve complete control of the U.S. “government” was to eviscerate the middle class (the socioeconomic class from which political resistance to their evil agenda would arise).

    One way to get rid of pests is to destroy their habitat. And to accomplish that our masters implemented confiscatory property taxation, thus achieving the first tenet of Marx’ communist manifesto: “[a]bolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.” So to correct the author on one detail, in America nobody actually owns any land or any home; we can only rent land and shelter from local governments. The satanists knew that once the laws are on the books and the system implemented, human greed would take over and we would destroy ourselves with crushing property taxation, which is exactly what’s happening.

  185. @Realist

    Alright, enough of this wizzing contest – you have literally exemplified my point that most folks have little or no reading comprehension. You latched on to a phrase and continue to pursue your picayune pea-brained logic – so le’mme ‘splain it so even a dumbquat can – maybe – get a sniff of what’s going on.
    Very simply – you’re not seeing DaForest cause youze is wizzing on DaTrees!🐕

    • Replies: @Realist
  186. Realist says:
    @Crush Limbraw

    You are saying nothing of substance…my comment is correct.

    • Replies: @Crush Limbraw
  187. Pft says:

    Sadly everything written is true.

    What happened? My hypothesis is
    we gave up on Christian values. Not speaking of institutionalized religion but the idea of a Natural or Gods Law that is above Mans Law. We replaced that with Scientism. Mad scientists who see us as a virus and guinea pigs. We convinced ourselves these were men of reason and logic and immune from the temptations of capitalism. We were wrong. Just as Priests and Bishops and Popes can be corrupted so too can Scientists

    Today we are a mean spirited selfish and fearful people, who care nothing about democracy, freedom and human rights, and lack humanity, allowing and indeed supporting our governments to sanction misery on so many countries and their people and ourselves, and we are now a force against Democracy embracing Authoritarianism but waving a flag in Gods name. Which one though?

    As individual Christians we were strong and brave. We believed God to be on our side. The idea of God empowered the individual and made him important. Perhaps delusion but perception is reality. We also believed in an afterlife. Once we died serving God we would go to Heaven, or so people believed. That made us brave. Since God was all seeing , doing Evil without getting caught by other men meant nothing, since we would go to hell. That was a powerful deterrent. We didn’t need many police then, people policed themselves. The universal belief also led in cohesion and cooperation with neighbors, and promoted unity instead of the divisions we see today

    We longer have all this. We are cowards as a result, replacing God with our party or ideology of choice , and our brains as well, and priests have been replaced by corporate scientists and public scientists that have entered into public private partnerships that enrich themselves . Thats our new religion. How pathetic is that?

    The Christian Right was subverted by Christian Zionism. A corruption of Christianity with its Old Testament Focus led by a Mean Spirited and Vindictive God, a move away from Christianity and the teachings of Jesus to love your neighbor. Many are Christians in name only.

    I think one of the major flaws of the Enlightenment was the belief that man could be ruled without laws that were constrained by Natural or Gods laws. As Hitler and Stalin both admitted, their actions were legal based on their (mans) laws. The same is true today in US.

    The universal belief in Christian values also acted as a great constraint on the ability of the psychopathic elite, which is why they attacked it starting from the 18th century(some might argue as early as the 16th century)

    In the 19th century there was enormous increase in post-moral cynicism and ruthlessness due to the ideas of Nietzsche and the ideology of Social Darwinism, leading to nationalist-fascist-militarism, “scientific-socialist” Communism and in the middle monopolistic-exploitive capitalism. This set the stage for a century of war and Satanic cruelty

    Compounding the problem is the elite are now united by their own Religion. That religion is Transhumanism. They are Homeo Deux. You are neanderthals (Homo I) They consider themselves your Gods and your only purpose is to serve them. Those who cant serve will be eliminated.

    G. K. Chesterton had it right, “when people cease to believe in God it is not that they believe in nothing, but that they believe in anything.” The destruction of the belief in the God-man Jesus Christ led to new divination and deification, the pursuit and celebration of the man-god, “homo deus,” and Nietzsche’s conception of the post-moral “Superman.” It could take nationalist, racialist, imperialist, utilitarian, or hedonistic egotism.

    The marriage of the sub-moral Darwinian idea of “survival of the fittest” and Nietzsche’s idea of the post-moral will to power produced a predatory mindset that exists today.

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
  188. Biff says:
    @JohnF

    The officers involved with the Timpa case are back on duty after having been investigated, and I think rightly so

    And that makes you a piece of shit…

    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
  189. Jmaie says:
    @Tor597

    Genocide does not mean what you think it means. There are more Native Americans alive today than when the white man showed up on the continent.

    • Replies: @Tor597
  190. Wally says:
    @76239

    “80,000 instances per year of SWAT teams”?

    – Easily explained:
    The Color of Crime: https://www.amren.com/the-color-of-crime/

    – The US is so “racist” that it is the #1 preferred destination of black Africans and other so called “POCs”.

    – The real “privilege” problem is black, not white.

    • Agree: GeneralRipper
  191. Mefobills says:
    @foolisholdman

    The point is that white countries do just fine without jews and other races present. Do I need to list more examples to make the point?

    This idea that white countries are improved by immigration fails on every level, yet it is bandied about as if it is truth.

    The real truth is that anybody shilling for multiculturalism should have their head examined.

  192. @Biff

    Oh my! Little Biffy is upset again…lol

    Take another bong hit, Biffygirl. It’s gonna be ok.

  193. frontier says:
    @Kali

    would you say that the visitors to this website are representative of the wider population of the US?

    If we judge by what people say in public, the answer is no. However, that may not be the whole story, many people are still using the old cliches but think differently or are confused internally.. and who can blame them, we’re in a brave new world that few are prepared for. Maybe the best answer is the one given by a Chinese party functionary visiting France. He was asked “What do you think about the French Revolution?” The reply: “It’s too early to say”

    Boy, was he right….

    • Thanks: Kali
  194. Tor597 says:
    @Really No Shit

    Why don’t you fix your American Uigher problem before you cast hate on others?

    His name was Jacob Blake.

  195. Tor597 says:
    @Mefobills

    lol. Nice white propaganda site.

    I’m not talking about the number of cases since Asians are a much smaller percent of the population.

    I’m talking about rate. There is almost non existent asian on white crime, yet you cannot say the opposite.

    Here is a white guy who slashed open the face of a 5 year old kid. There are also cases if whites throwing acid on asians all because whites are too ignorant to use a mask.
    https://mobile.twitter.com/JayPotato1/status/1239742327893020673

    • Agree: GreatSocialist
    • Replies: @Mefobills
  196. @Realist

    Of course your comment is correct – U DaMan!
    “In those days there was no king in Israel: every man did that which was right in his own eyes.” – and based on your comment history just on this article, you haven’t missed a beat.
    Bad news – didn’t work out well for those self-righteous know-it-alls in Israel – but that’s just then, this is now – right?
    BTW – this is what might be called big picture – but who cares when you’re peeing on trees, right?🐕

  197. Tor597 says:
    @niteranger

    You might as well make that same argument about white Europeans.

    The whites who live in the UK were the whites who killed off whatever tribe was there first.

    So whats your point? I guess you have no problem with arabs or blacks taking Europe since whites who live there now aren’t the originals right?

    • Replies: @niteranger
  198. Poco says:

    “If I walk down any street in America and gun down a white man, I will, barring unusual circumstances, be placed before the mercy of a criminal court. But if I walk down a street in your country and gun down a black man, barring inexplicable bad luck, I can walk away because the policeman would likely have done the same.”

    If that were the case all black men would have been wiped out in the US long ago.

    • Agree: GeneralRipper
  199. denk says:

    Lets hear it from the unpeople

    From quora,

    Is uncle sham a racist ?

    hERe’r some sample responses…

    [MORE]

    IM Han,
    that @#$%^, sure picks on us
    fact is, the entire [[[five liars]]] lean on us like tons of bricks,

    exhibit A
    [[[five liars]]] scold China over HK,
    [[[five liars]]] sanction China over UIghurs.
    tip of an iceberg
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hongkong-protests-britain/uk-us-australia-and-canada-scold-china-over-hong-kong-law-idUSKBN23425F

    Im Chagosian,
    We wanna go back to our home,
    been begging for sixty years, they treat us like transparent.
    Are we not human beings?

    IM Okinawan/

    We have been protesting for 70 decades,
    sent our delegates to Wasington .
    Con-gress was too busy to give us a hearing,
    they were in session passing a resolution on their prized UIghurs bro.
    The potus was having lunch with HMDL
    [[[tHEY]]] told us to take the next plane home, those [email protected]#$%^& treated us like dirt.

    IM from Kashmir,,,…
    For [[[them]]], moslems are sand niggers.
    Deos it sound racists to you ?

    Yet even moslem aint born equal.
    Those head choppers in Xinjiang got the royal treatment from uncle sham, its [[[their]]] freedom fighters, hell bcos the UIghurs are killing Hans.
    We who get shot, raped in Kashmir are called the terrorists, bcos we’r up against [[[five liars]]] Indian cousins.
    So yes, uncle sham is a racists and…a hypocrite to boot.

    IM from Nagaland, the so-called Indian NE
    Our story is India’s best kept dirty little secret.
    One of the worst genocide in 20C,
    when was the last time you heard us mentioned in the [[[five liars]]] domain ?
    we’r the ultimate unpeople.

    Im from Jeju island, SK,
    UNCle sham appropriated our beautiful island to build a monstrous naval base, bristling with missiles which can reach Shanghai in 15 min.
    when we protest, their goons beat us to pulps.

    Im from Puerto Rico,
    OUr freedom fighters were either killed or rotting in jail

    Im from Palestine…………….
    uncle sham sanctions Beijing over those rioters in HK and the head choppers in Xinjiang.
    Yet he vetoe over 300+ UN resolutions sanctioning Israel.
    Is he racist, you be the judge.

    ————–
    PS
    See that cunt [really no shit] who pop up in every China thread ,

    I wanna finish off those dirty yellow rats

  200. Fuck you, Romanoff. Really?

    America is one of the two most racist countries in the world, where even the random and unprovoked killing of non-whites is not only permissible but usually meets with approval.

    I’m 63. My whole life I’ve been bludgeoned with concern for Blacks, Blacks, Blacks, starting with the riots in DC after MLK. Affirmative action, endless crime, endless worry. Fuck you. The racism for 60 years in the U.S. is reverse, period.

    STDs, the depravities of feminists, ‘women’s rights’, media, homos, trannies, the whole Jewish line in your list and in the media about how I’m the bad guy? Fuck you. All your items in the list of “American Exceptionalism” are the depravities, violence and bullshit of others, Jewish driven and delivered. 99% of the sexual depravities have the name Stein after them. Asshole.

    I played ball with Blacks in school, I served with Blacks in the military, I serviced and installed their phones in DC for over thirty years. I, Larry, unlike you, have worked, played and done business with Blacks my entire life. It was all fine and forgotten for twenty years or more. Then you used Obama to unleash this monstrosity upon us all. Don’t hang this on me and my kind. I guess AIPAC got to you, Romanoff, although they owned you all along. They got to you but good. How much were you paid? How much to hang the depravities of criminal Blacks and feminists, all of them Jewish, on my people?

    Fuck you, Larry. The U.S. isn’t Stars and Stripes anymore, because of YOUR people. Not mine. The only good in the U.S. came from MY people, not yours. Your (((people))) were the slave traders in Philly, your people were the factory owners and bankers who used slaves in the factories you moved out of New England in the 1850s. Your people were the slave and cotton traders. You think we’re idiots. Your people drove the wars, the banks, the slavery. And you blame it on ME? Ya fuckin’ creep. You won’t publish this,, but I know you’re gonna read it. And that’s enough for YOU. Fuck you, once again. You must live in a gated community while you spout your masters’ lines.

    You never met a goyisha feminist (except you may have raped one) or a Black in your life, your list of ills your people caused us here are strictly Jewish in cause and effect. And when you’ve stolen the last morsels, you’ll move onto another host to suck dry. Fuck you, Romanoff. Creep. I cannot believe this article was published given what we know about how YOUR people made us considerably LESS than exceptional.

    • Agree: GeneralRipper
    • Replies: @Larry Romanoff
    , @Alden
  201. Tor597 says:
    @Jmaie

    Obviously a lie unless you count mixed white/hispanics.

    But let me ask you this. Why do white nationalists like you decry the fate of the white man when there has never been more whites on this earth?

    • Replies: @anon
    , @frontier
  202. Mefobills says:
    @Tor597

    Good try. Metadata tells the tale with statistical method. Your exception does not make the rule. If you were intellectually honest and read the report it does show that Northeast Asians are less violent than whites.

    You are dead wrong by comparing Asian white vs black white. In no way are they statistically in the same ball park.

  203. Larry, why are you wearing down your keyboard preaching to Americans when you need to be warning THE REST OF THE WORLD to NEVER come to the poverty-stricken, raysiss living hell that is the USA, not even to visit.

    You’re not doing a good job of sounding the alarm or keeping the global riff-raff safe from a fate worse than death.

  204. @Stogumber

    Most countries of the Anglosphere have dropped freedom of speech

    Mostly agreed. Some decades ago, Holocaust denial in Canada was prosecuted under a false-news law but this was declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. This was however but a momentary setback for the forces of righteousness, who quickly came up with the hate laws to accomplish the same thing.

    More recently Canada has enacted forced-speech laws, requiring people to use the preferred pronouns of the transgendered. Violations of this law will indeed get you hauled before the Human Rights Commissions with no legal protections, as you say. If you claim that there are only two sexes, they will get you under the hate-speech law.

    You can be fired for just about anything you say, and often for what you don’t, as for wearing a ribbon in protest against a government policy.

    That said, I rather doubt your American courts give any weight to the pursuit of happiness clause in the Declaration of Independence. And there is a 100 mile civil-rights-free zone around the international border of the U.S., which includes all international airports. This pretty much includes about half the country.

    Many legal scholars claim your Bill of Rights is a dead letter. I am inclined to agree.

  205. @Tor597

    I guess we will find out. You don’t seem to understand history at all. Blacks and Native Americans are so tribalistic that they seldom come together for the greater good of all. In Africa they are still killing each other….and still take slaves. In South Africa they are killing other tribes which are now coming into their country.

    The Arabs were driven out numerous times from parts of Europe. They are being invited in by the political insanity of diversity run by the Jewish Propaganda Machine (while they throw the blacks out, kill the Arab Palestinians and so forth).

    Did you ever think that the main reason they don’t build very good civilizations is because they remain in these tribalistic entities? Perhaps you should move to Africa and enjoy these wonderful people.

  206. Mefobills says:
    @dogbumbreath

    Why are below average Chinese rejects even in our country?

    The relevant question is, how does their presence benefit America?

    It only benefits the College bureaucracy which has their hands out grabbing the cash. The same hippy retreads festooning college bureaucracies have no qualms about indebted American kids going into hock.

    Young Americans are transferring their life energy to the old retreads and meanwhile the Chinese presence has no national strategic or tactical benefit.

    • Replies: @Godfree Roberts
  207. @Sollipsist

    Over time I had come to expect rather high standards from at least a polarity of posters at the Unz site. Yours, sir, was one of the very few such commenters who maintained the standards of intellectual integrity to which I had become accustomed. As one of the few open-posting availabilities to be found during this deeply devolutionary period in American cultural history; this facilitator can draw in a potpourri of pouters and poseurs, as is evidenced in all too many of postings on this thread.

    It is an incontrovertible reality that since the days of John Dewey and James Bryant Conant, the American public has been deliberately dumbed-down by an intentionally skewed miseducational system; a cultural misadventure which has been intensely exacerbated by Hollywood and the mass media of mesmerization and mind-control. Over time and generations the mindset of the average American, decent and industrious as she/he might be, has devolved to the pre-literate state of medieval serfs, though ironically convinced that their half-hour of nightly boobtoob noose has kept them abreast of unfolding reality.

    Thus I meet you halfway, agreeing in part with your central premise, as I understand it; yet at the same time maintaining a point of view that at least among some rural populations and portions of those of the laboring classes who have not been edjumacated beyond any possible level of residual common sense; there is an intuitive realization that America has been sold down the river by those compradores Mr Romanoff has cited. It was this denigrated underclass which Mr. Trump recognized as his potential populist base and tailored his appeals accordingly.

    In short, I remain perversely proud of the fact that I shall ever remain 5 credits short of an honors degree in history; having lost virtually all respect for institutions of higher learning which compensate their football and basketball coaches at salaries several removes higher than that of their presidents/chancellors. Or to follow the KISS principle (Keep it simple, stupid) all one needs to do to know what is going on in this ruptured republic is to follow the money.

  208. @Half-Jap

    O’ Sweet home Alabama, I never knew you.

    It’s a real tragedy for the common folk. I believe the Anglo-American Empire peaked somewhere back in the mid-1980’s, when just about everything was looking up and the kiddies all still had something to look forward to.

    The rot started to set in even before the Cold War ended, and really took off after that.

    • Replies: @Anon
  209. @Pft

    #188

    we gave up on Christian values. Not speaking of institutionalized religion but the idea of a Natural or Gods Law that is above Mans Law. We replaced that with Scientism.

    Agreed without a moral compass that is well anchored in a “God” based Universe, which is above all our nonsense about (country, ethnics, profession, gender, etc. etc) setting our life codes, world outlook, social principles and personal character we would fall back to our animalistic and predatory (i.e. Darwinian) mind set, which is a major driver to where have arrived as a society, which defines our country..

    Today we are a mean spirited selfish and fearful people, who care nothing about democracy, freedom and human rights, and lack humanity, allowing and indeed supporting our governments to sanction misery on so many countries and their people and ourselves, and we are now a force against Democracy embracing Authoritarianism but waving a flag in Gods name.

    At times all peoples (and even persons) need to engage in an honest self-appraisal or self-criticism, that is to”get out of one’s skin” and take a good look at one’s self. Even to engage in cathartic cleansings in order to redirect ourselves for a better pathway, which I with many believe comes only from having a moral and not material based compass. Nobody can say the US as a country is on a positive and uplifting direction these past decades. No need to I take LR essay on the sorry state of the US state/country/nation today personally or to get all defensive.

    As stated in TT #101

    The cries of outrage and venom being spewed at LR would be better placed into how to fix things in the USA and how the population can come together to put America back on a sane and positive course that serves the entire populace, not those who just consider them “Chosen” (Exceptional) of some sort

  210. sb says:
    @Larry Romanoff

    I see that you are one of those ” I am always 100% right ” people . I guess it goes with the territory of being a conspiracy theorist

    At least the non conspiracy theorists among us now have some idea of the veracity of your extreme claims

  211. anon[183] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tor597

    Compared top the 70s, definitely the numbers of the white middle class has gone down . That causes lot of distress among the stupid entitled white morons who have gravitated to the racist rant of the GOP in increasing numbers after a black guy was asked to hold the place until next sheriff in town. showed up .
    One of their preoccupation is the dwindling number of the whites , a myth which works like opioid for the affected part.

  212. frontier says:
    @Tor597

    Because the “diversity” on this earth is now much more numerous and they don’t preserve other cultures like whites do. You see, diversity is a value only in white countries, the rest blame whites for their own failures, exactly like you do. So it’s time to wave a farewell to diversity and the various “whitey bad” crudes like you.

    Are you trying to convince me that I don’t have to protect my life and vital interests, and yield to snake manure merchants like you… because… the Indians failed to protect theirs? You’re asking us to become South Africa because someone else could not resists to become America? … You aren’t the smart type, are you?

  213. @Jim Christian

    I think you have good reason to be angry, but not necessarily at me. For one thing, some readers here claim I don’t even exist, so perhaps your categorization is wrong.

    But are you so very sure you are howling at the right moon? Much of what you wrote may well be true, but remember the adage about how you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink?

    I despise your media as much as do you, but it was you – or millions similar to you – who chose to believe them about Iraq and Libya (and so many others), and it was you – or millions similar to you – who thought it a good idea to kill those ragheads for Jesus. That was your choice, not mine. You may have pornography on your computer; there is none on mine. That’s a choice.

    I don’t think you should worry about whether IPAC got to me; the issue is that they got to your President, White House, and Congress. I can’t do anything about that, but you could.

    Maybe instead of blaming me for all your troubles, you should do some self-reflection. After all, the difficulties facing your nation today did not happen overnight. You watched them happen over decades, but you did nothing.

    In spite of my harsh condemnation of many things American, I have a deep sadness for your country and your people because the conditions you described have been imposed upon you, in the absence of which you would be a much finer country and people.

    You imagine me as a kind of monster, a despicable representative of all that is wrong with your country, but that categorization is unfair. It was painful to me to read your comment because I recognized the truth in what you wrote and I feel truly sorry for you and your people.

    I am guilty only of trying to wake you up and make you change course before it’s too late. I don’t mean to be unkind, but that’s more than you are doing.

    • Agree: Kali
    • Replies: @yurivku
  214. Excellent and comprehensive article on the topic! I have never seen a more complete listing of the “exceptionalities” as this one. To the large cadre of treasonous educated Americans you could add scientific “ experts”, humanities scolars, university boards and professors, socio-/ economical/ political advisors, econometrists and statisticians.

  215. Alden says:
    @Amon

    You may be right about FEMA camps. But you cited The Guardian. There hasn’t been a word of truth published in The Guardian since 1917.

    It’s less truthful than the NYSLIMES

  216. Well, out comes another tragic video of an unarmed black man being shot multiple times in the back in front of his children while walking away from a bunch of panicked white cops.

    Doesn’t look good for the cops, although its possible that they may have reasonably thought he was getting into his car with 3 young children to obtain a weapon. But very very unlikely.

    Looks more like he refused to surrender or be compliant, and then the white cop behind him lost his cool and shot the black guy for defying him. That’s what happens when we sadly have cops with low IQ and even lower emotional control.

    I used to work in law enforcement as an armed supervisor, and I am amazed at all the excuses that come from rabid cop supporters to excuse simple stupidity or loss of emotional control. Cops have a very tough job, and many do their difficult job very well and even are heroes. In general, I support cops 100%.

    But when useless cops screw up, we shouldn’t push the levels of absurdity to justify their dumbass incompetence or foolish mistakes.

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  217. Tom Welsh says:
    @Larry Romanoff

    ‘My article listed about 70 discrete points yet several readers focused (a bit rudely, I thought) only on the racism point. I found myself wondering how they missed the “truly legendary level of ignorance”’.

    Maybe the focusing is a symptom of the truly legendary level of ignorance.

    • Replies: @Poco
  218. Tom Welsh says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    “You say that like it’s a bad thing. Inequality is what happens when people get what they deserve…”

    I hope you realise that that is a value judgment. It’s your personal opinion of how things “should” be.

    On the other hand, one may argue that almost everything important and useful that human beings have achieved was done by teamwork. Even Newton, as cold and arrogant a man as you could ever hope to meet, made his famous remark about standing on the shoulders of giants.

    For every single individual accomplishment or breakthrough that you can point out, it will become evident that nothing could have been done without massive support from others – often thousands of others. They just don’t get their names in the history books, that’s all.

    The Chinese people have a much more communitarian, cooperative philosophy – based, please remember, on thousands of years of civilisation. And look what they are achieving.

    In the long run, we can settle the issue by just waiting and seeing who comes out best. My money is on China and other nations where more stress is put on cooperation than on individuals battling to the death for the spoils.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
  219. Smith says:
    @Larry Romanoff

    Care to test it out, Larry?

    Book a flight to the US and shoot a nigger?

  220. Tom Welsh says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    “I honestly think the current American politicians are 100% copies of the old Chinese Mandarin class. The class of people that gave China 100 years of humiliation”.

    Wow. That must take the prize for the most ignorant, biased, arrogant, smug comment yet.

    “The old Chinese Mandarin class” ruled the world’s oldest and greatest civilisation from the days of the Roman Republic (and earlier) until the 20th century. They invented the very concept of a civil service, imitated by almost every civilised country in the world.

    Moreover, until the early 19th century China (along with India) led the world in production and trade. See, among many other sources, “Contours of the World Economy 1-2030 AD: Essays in Macro-Economic History” by Angus Maddison.

    China’s “100 years of humiliation” (and India’s somewhat longer period of subjugation) were caused exclusively by the greed, violence and ruthlessness of Europeans and Americans (including, by the way, the Roosevelt family). They insisted on importing drugs such as opium to China, ignoring the laws of the Chinese government and its attempts to enforce them. The opium was largely grown in India, driving out valuable crops to enrich distant British landowners.

    In medieval times, the Chinese invented almost all the “advanced” weapons that the white men used to break into the Middle Kingdom. Gunpowder, bombs, rockets, armoured ships, even flying machines… they were all invented, used, and eventually forbidden as too harmful to be allowed in a civilised country. Before Columbus was born, Admiral Zheng He sailed his fleet around the Indian Ocean, touching Madagascar and Sri Lanka. Some believe they even reached North America. Zheng He’s ships were bigger than any built in the West before the late 19th century, and could have used Columbus’ ships as lifeboats.

    The big mistake the Chinese made was not realising that the “barbarians” whom they scorned would pick up those discarded weapons and refine them until they had the power to overcome the Chinese and crush them underfoot.

    With the advent of Mao Zedong, the Chinese became reunited and set ambitious goals – most of which they have already achieved. One of those goals, obviously, was to arm themselves well enough that the Western barbarians could never again win a war against them.

    • Agree: Showmethereal
    • Thanks: Kali
  221. Marc s says:

    Translate this to spanish and leave it in fliers along the border please.

  222. Tom Welsh says:
    @Realist

    List of African countries by GDP (PPP)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)

    Rank Country Peak GDP $B Peak Year
    1 Egypt 1,391.734 2019
    2 Nigeria 1,275.027 2020
    3 South Africa 813.100 2019
    4 Algeria 684.649 2019
    5 Morocco 332.358 2020
    6 Ethiopia 240.168 2019
    7 Ghana 226.127 2019
    8 Angola 208.034 2020
    9 Kenya 206.532 2020
    10 Libya 187.796 2010

    Sorry if the formatting is a mess; if so, look at the source page cited above.

    I found Tunisia a very pleasant country to live in back in the 1960s; I don’t know how it has progressed since.

    Libya is an interesting case study. Between 1969, when he seized power, and 2008 when Libya came under attack from “the West”, Colonel Qadafi increased Libya’s GDP from about $4 billion to about $86 billion. This turned it from one of the poorest nations in Africa to clearly the wealthiest.

    Then NATO came in and bombed it to hell; within a year or two order had broken down, there was no government, the country was ravaged by wars between terrorist factions, and slavery had been reestablished. Oh, and somehow unaccountably all the gold that Colonel Qadafi had amassed to support his planned African dinar currency disappeared. I wonder where it went…

    So one of the reasons that African countries remain relatively poor is that, whenever one of them puts its head above the parapet, Uncle Sam and his catamites come along and hammer it down with baseball bats. The “lesser breeds without the Law” are not allowed to become rich, or even comfortably well-off; all their surplus wealth belongs to you-know-who.

    • Agree: Larry Romanoff
    • Replies: @GomezAdddams
    , @Ponder
  223. Emslander says:
    @Based Lad

    This goes into the same category of articles from Unz as the “No Moon Landing” and “Ancient History is Made Up” articles.

  224. Realist says:
    @Supply and Demand

    If I were an American black, which I’m not, I would much rather live in Angola.

    From Wikipedia

    Angola has a serious humanitarian crisis; the result of the prolonged war, of the abundance of minefields, of the continued political (and to a much lesser degree) military activities in favour of the independence of the exclave of Cabinda (carried out in the context of the protracted Cabinda conflict by the FLEC), but most of all, by the depredation of the country’s rich mineral resources by the régime.[citation needed] While most of the internally displaced have now settled around the capital, in the so-called musseques, the general situation for Angolans remains desperate.[38][39]

  225. yurivku says:
    @Larry Romanoff

    Well said Sir.

    I am guilty only of trying to wake you up and make you change course before it’s too late.

    It’s too late and it’s good. USAists will never confirm their crimes and that Carthage must be destroyed for sake of whole world.

    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
  226. Thim says:
    @Larry Romanoff

    Ron Unz ought to reassess allowing this Romanoff to write for his website. The guy is a lunatic. He should be at National Inquirer, where they just write anything they want, not at a respectable web site

    • Replies: @vot tak
  227. Jiminy says:
    @sb

    I always thought that the small Tasmanian blacks ended up down in that state because they were forced there by the other blacks over time. There was no further to run. All throughout Australia’s history there were migrations of people from Asia down through the continent. Bones from early humans have been found that some believed predated today’s blacks, being from totally different tribes of people.
    Early settler journals talk of tall blacks hunting down smaller blacks on a beach, where the water was red from their blood. These early writings are hard to examine because a lot of them are in private collections, and rarely see the light of day. Certainly whites killed blacks, blacks killed whites, and what people don’t like to acknowledge is that blacks killed blacks – but that seems to be acceptable. I think the small blacks of the Queensland forests suffered the same fate.
    And as you say, I’m certain that black Tasmanian DNA still courses through the veins of people today.

  228. Such an impressive compilation of facts, statistics, and data should be an introduction to all American Studies courses. And, as such, it should be promoted and publicized everywhere. I just tried to do that: I tried posting the link on FB. I was immediately censored.

    But I suppose you have had similar experiences. Just one more example why the US is currently ranked #25 on the list of the world’s best democracies, even by such a conservative, pro-Western outfit as the Democracy Index.

  229. Tom Welsh says:
    @Saggy

    “You could site one hundred article, the idea that the US educational system is not one of the best if not the best in the world is preposterous on its face”.

    Your misspelling of “cite” and “articles”, as well as your unabashed claim that evidence is less important than your prejudices, refute your statement. (If you are a product of the US educational establishment).

    • Replies: @Saggy
  230. Tom Welsh says:
    @aandrews

    All your pretty map shows is that:

    1. Americans are hypocritical enough to lie on an industrial scale when answering questionnaires about politically sensitive subjects.

    2. The Washington Post is a mouthpiece of the US government.

  231. Wally says:
    @aandrews

    – A laughable Marxist, so called “World Values Survey” produced map, published in The Washington Pravda Post.

    – Whose “values”?

    BTW:
    Black on white violence & murder is massive.
    Police kill more whites than blacks even though blacks engage in much much more crime.

    The Color of Crime: https://www.amren.com/the-color-of-crime/

    50 Things Neo-Marxists Don’t Want You to Know About Trump:
    https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2020/07/29/50-things-they-dont-want-you-know-trump-harpercollins-reveals-breitbart-editor-jerome-hudsons-book-cover/#

  232. Perhaps one of the best analyses of how inept and propagandistic the US educational system is can be found in the publications by John T. Gatto. I recommend “Against School.”

    As one reviewer said: “Gatto points out that the real purpose of education in the US is not to promote critical thinking skills, creativity, intelligence, and free thought, but to actually ensure that American children never grow up intellectually, that they become ‘docile and incomplete citizens–all in order to render the populace manageable.’”

  233. Stealth says:

    Larry, at least one of your sources is shit. I have ‘t bothered to check the rest, but since the first one I clicked on doesn’t qualify as a real source, I can only imagine how many of the rest of them are equally bad. Your claim that 75 percent of Americans cannot locate their country on a map (which is obvious BS) is relayed from an opinion column stating that a polling company, not named of course, said so. “Global Research” indeed.

    • Replies: @Stealth
    , @Larry Romanoff
  234. America has many faults but most would vanish if we would MAWA.

  235. Stealth says:
    @Stealth

    And now I see that it was you who wrote it. Ok, what polling company was that?

  236. @Tom Welsh

    Informative post, marred slightly by the very last paragraph.

    Mao was a Yali (Skull and Bones in China) and it is highly debatable that he united China.

    In any event, the present economic success of China is credited to Deng Xiaoping, not Mao Zedong, who went off script and off the reservation.

    Hence, the Jews and their MSM have demonized Mao and lionized Deng.

    Peace out.

  237. Ronnie says:

    “”The US is the only country in the world where, in repeated polls for the past 60 years, a full 75% of the adult and student populations cannot find their own country on a map of the world[14].””

    Reference 14 is empty. I cannot find any evidence for this statement. Do you have any ?

    • Replies: @Larry Romanoff
  238. @76239

    That is only because blacks in the US are so brainwashed that they think it is better to be poor and live ina nation that doesnt want them except to use as a footstool – than to live among their own people.

  239. @obwandiyag

    How could you leave out that when they dont blame blacks for everything – they blame Jews…????

  240. @Saggy

    Yeah this one is a little over the top. Even though many of the issues are valid… He does play “fast and loose” with terms such as “rate” and “worst” and “most”. Context is key. So even though some points might be valid – misuse of some of those terms will turn many readers off.

  241. @yurivku

    Bring it on, monkey.

    Please.

    😉

    • Replies: @yurivku
  242. Miville says:
    @anon

    I don’t believe in the virtue of too many nuclear bombs, except for symbolic value. I for one would first nuke Hollywood after giving a few days’ warning to vacate the place. Then I would do the same to Manhattan. But the the greater part of the job should be done by the agency of a Second Civil War that never ends, first dividing the country into two, and then into 4, 8, 16 up to 1024, most of these splinters being motivated by renewed religious intolerance. After all America is supposed to have started with the Pilgrim fathers that is to say with people that European societies could not longer support because of their fanaticism : they were not in quest of a land of freedom but of a land of conquest where to crush all opposition to their views and the master colonizers just made sure no religious sect was too strong to endanger their construction. Then there was the revolution of 1776 which should be more appropriately called the Satanic pact of 1776.

  243. @Tom Welsh

    You are like that Martin jacques guy. A great humanist. But zero clue.

    Stay logical. Less worshipping.

    You can like China, I like china, but to praise the Mandarin class that was responsible for pretty much everything wrong with ancient China. I am speechless.

    The reason the Chinese civilization endured for 2000 years was because the Qin, the first Chinese dynasty setup the frame work which every subsequent dynasties copied almost wholesale. Even the two barbarian dynasties didn’t deviate from the formula set up by the Qin.

    Gun powder was never exploited and advanced because of them.

    The Chinese Ming fleet stopped exploring because of them.

    Owned 80% of the wealth n land n paid zero taxes.

    The dynastic cycle where 10s of million peasants died was because of them. That is each cycle.

    Mao? He was a good public speaker. Got the ball rolling. That was it. If I remember correctly, that general named Lin did most of the work. And he got purged by Mao for it.

    And finally, the kmt that ran China into the ground n fled to Taiwan are the Mandarin class. They are betraying their country n race for personal gain just like the current American politicians.

    • Replies: @d dan
    , @Tom Welsh
  244. Dick says:

    Whether we believe the content of this article or not, we must recognize the American people are the most propagandized and brainwashed people on the planet. They swim in a sea of propaganda beyond their ability to perceive. I speak with some experience having been born and raised in the US before leaving for calmer waters 30 years ago. The majority of Americans are not as evil or greedy as those that represent them, but they are blinded by ideology and patriotism and years of being told they are exceptional.

    • Agree: Kali
  245. Smith says:
    @Tom Welsh

    There is many historical inaccuracies in this post.

    About gunpowder weapons (bombs, explosives, rockets), China did not ban them, in fact, the mongols enslaved the Song scientists and used these very weapons against them to conquer Song and many other countries, and it was the mongols who even spreaded those weapons to Europe.

    And about Zheng He’s fleet. They were big but unwieldy, there’s a reason they stay together, linked and must slowly advance by hugging the coastal shores. This is why China, despite having a huge fleet, failed to colonize and mark new lands, so they only colonize via immigration as seen in Singapore and now in Malaysia/Indonesia.

    Meanwhile, the barbarian smaller viking ships were sailing to America and actually built a colony there.

    Zheng He’s fleet, on the other hand, would be shot to shit if they decide to actually invade a nation with a navy, and they cannot be even used for land invasion due to the slow speed that they travel.

    Zheng He’s fleet is a actually testament to chinese mind, making a big, unwieldy but actually useless thing. And in the end, they are all burned down so only records of them remain, we even lack the proof Zheng He used these big ships to travel at sea (when small and faster ships were wiser for travel).

    And barbarians? The very mandarin class you praised come from Qing dynasty, Manchu stock, whose the Han said to be barbarian, and the manchu, a minority, imposes their own culture on the Han that now the Han still dresses more in Manchurian clothing (Cheongsam) than their own traditional Han clothes.

    The chinese were a great civilization for sure, but they did not spare the world domination due to benevolence, but because they constantly failed to make use and improve upon their own innovation, and of course the Cao Cao mentality where they do not trust each other which leads to civil war (the most devastating chinese conflicts have always been civil war). We can learn a lot from chinese success, but also from their mistakes.

  246. @Ronnie

    I don’t know if I have the original poll citation, but I’m almost certain it was done by PEW. The first one occurred when I was a university student, and it became one of the great laughs of the day. Similar studies have been repeated many times since then, with essentially the same results among adults and students at all levels including university: about 75% of Americans couldn’t find either their country or Canada. This became so commonly known that even your late night talk show hosts like David Letterman have made frequent reference to it.

    Some apologists have since conducted studies showing better results, but the samples are small and the methodology flawed, as is obvious if you examine the detail. But this is the smallest part of the low-quality education and level of ignorance. There is so much more. The sad truth is that most of what Americans believe about their own country, is false. Jingoistic propaganda.

    As extract quote from my previous article ‘Substandard Education in America’

    https://www.unz.com/lromanoff/substandard-education-in-america/

    Similarly, the US claims the highest level of literacy in the world – 99%. Truly enviable. But then, reading the small print at the end of a recent highly-regarded “definitive study” purporting to document American educational supremacy, what do we find? Just as with its economic statistics and every other comparison the US produces, we discover manipulated and falsified data. In these so-called studies produced by the US government and its educational institutions, the Americans simply misrepresented the facts so they could place themselves at the top of the list. In the case of functional literacy, the US position is this:

    “For highly developed or high income countries where literacy statistics were not collected, a rate of 99% was assumed.”

    We might legitimately ask why the Americans didn’t bother to collect statistics. The reason is that in all studies, researchers have found the rate of functional illiteracy in the US is almost 25% of the total population, with the illiteracy rate for adults in many American cities like Detroit having been documented at almost 50%, a very long way from the fictional 99% literacy ‘assumed’, and in many other major cities like New York large swathes of the population read below a grade three level and have no math or other skills. The highly-regarded National Adult Literacy Survey found a total of almost 25%, or about 50 million of the 200 million American adults functioning at the lowest literacy level. In an article published in the San Jose Mercury in 2001, it was documented that 75% of California high school seniors could not read well enough to pass their exit exams. In basic literacy – the ability to understand and use basic written text – 80% of Americans reached only a level 2 out of 5.

    As I wrote in my introduction, “The statistics on which this article is based were not selected carelessly and are not invalidated by a reader’s disaffection.”

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
  247. @Stealth

    One of the most famous references to this astonishing level of American ignorance occurred on US national television during a Miss Teen USA pageant when one of the finalists, Miss South Carolina, Caitlin Upton, was asked why most Americans couldn’t find their country on a world map. Here is her answer, which was posted on YouTube and received more than 40 million views: (You can still find it. It’s worth seeing.)

    “I personally believe that US Americans are unable to do so because, uh, some people out there in our nation don’t have maps and, uh, I believe that our, uh, education like such as, uh, South Africa and, uh, the Iraq, everywhere like such as, and, I believe that they should, our education over here in the US should help the US, uh, or, uh, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future for our children.”

    • LOL: Biff
  248. Instructive, surely, to note sources are mostly American. I.e., the greatest critics of America are Americans. Does any other country come close?

  249. d dan says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    “…but to praise the Mandarin class that was responsible for pretty much everything wrong with ancient China. I am speechless.”

    The Mandarin class has helped China to maintain leaderships in more areas for longer time period than any other systems invented (including modern democracy) by any civilizations for any other nation. It was one of the great social advance in humanity in ancient time.

    You are using modern standards and hindsight to criticize an extremely old system.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  250. Anon[264] • Disclaimer says:
    @jsigur

    Also revelations is contained within an Abrahamic religion context, and all of the Abrahamic religions were started by and serve Jewish aims. All three are great ppl controlling devices

    It’s best to think of Revelation as a business plan, not prophecy.

  251. Larry says:
    @76239

    The entire article is one enormous cherry-picking pie.

  252. Anon[264] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    It’s a real tragedy for the common folk. I believe the Anglo-American Empire peaked somewhere back in the mid-1980’s, when just about everything was looking up and the kiddies all still had something to look forward to.

    The 80’s weren’t that great for the rank and file.

    It was the dawning of the age of the narcissistic Yuppie, the Leveraged Buyout, the export of manufacturing kicked into high gear, and the mantra was ‘Greed Is Good’.

    • Agree: Sollipsist
    • Replies: @Sollipsist
  253. denk says:
    @Really No Shit

    It’s all the fault of dirty yellow rats loving Jews

    So its those dirty yellow rats loving Jews who send you off to colonise NOrth America, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Oz, NZ, Chago island.etc etc……

    Is those Chinese loving Jews who make you into this rabid Chinese hating mad dog ?

    Its those Chinese loving Jews who sent [[[the family]]] off to destroy (((their))) beloved China?

    https://journal-neo.org/2018/12/10/anglo-saxon-eyes-are-fixed-on-countering-china/

    Is there any grey matter between your ears, Read Shit Head. ?

    • Replies: @Poco
    , @Really No Shit
  254. @d dan

    You guys are giving them enormous credit which isn’t theirs. IMO, everything that ancient China has achieved is not because of them but despite of them.

    And of course I am looking at them through 2020 lens.

    The current American politicians bears almost 100% resemblance to them. That is why I think USA is fucked.

  255. @Smith

    Don’t butt in when you have no clue about the subject in question.

  256. Poco says:
    @Tom Welsh

    Why wouldn’t one focus on a blatantly stupid ass statement and point it out? Especially if one agrees with the rest of the article.

  257. Poco says:
    @denk

    The Anglos already won. You’re but an appendage of their empire. Your only recourse is nuclear. China is already faltering and its government will not survive. Just another globalist hangout. The globalists hate us all but their headquarters are in the US and it’s anglo jewish bosses. China will go the way of the Soviet Union. I’m not saying that is good or bad, it’s just an observation. Bet on it.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
    , @denk
  258. @Smith

    Every statement in your post is factually untrue. Every statement. I’m sorry to say this, but it isn’t only the ignorance of so many Americans that is stunning in its extent, but the apparent total disregard for truth.

    Idiocies are stated by idiots as fact, opinions are stated by the opinionated as fact, wishful thinking is stated by the delusional as fact, wild accusations lacking even a shred of evidence are stated by evangelicals as fact. This is almost entirely an American phenomenon. Yes, there are some idiots and liars in every country, primarily it seems in the English-speaking countries, but on days like this it seems the US p0ssesses 95% of them. I have never seen anything like this in any other nation.

    Every single statement in “Smith’s” above post is factually and provably untrue, and most are the precise opposite to the truth.

    Only in America. And it is these same idiots who inhabit the world’s largest military and always looking for a fight. God help us all.

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
    • Replies: @Smith
    , @Astuteobservor II
  259. @Crawfurdmuir

    It seems that Mr Romanoff has mistakenly used the US position among advanced economies in place of its position for ‘all comers’.

    For all-comers, the US squeaks into the top 100 for murders per 100K population. (The UNDOC data on murders using firearms is too patchy to be useful).

    Within the OECD, the US is 4th (below Colombia, Mexico, and Lithuania) as of 2015 – but compared to its Anglophone peers, the US murder rate (5/100k in 2015; 4.96 in 2018) is 3x-4x higher than most of the primary Anglophone economies:

     • Australia: 0.8/100k
     • UK: 0.96/100k
     • New Zealand: 0.8/100k
     • Canada: 1.8/100k

    If you ‘back out’ all murders committed by blacks in the US, the US ‘ex-blacks’ murder rate is still more than twice that of the UK, Australia and New Zealand, and is 50% higher than Canada (even when leaving Canadian murders by non-whites in the data).

    Canada stands out; I wonder if Canada’s so high relative to real Anglohpones because half of them are basically brain-damaged Frogs? Or maybe it’s Yanks sneaking across the border and snuffing out poor bewildered Canucks, eh?

    It’s the same when the ex-black US murder rate is compared to ‘first world’ countries – Western Europe, Japan, Singapore, Western Europe, the Scando’s and so forth. Even the Irish and the wops – Grecians, Italians, Spaniards and Portuguese – only murder at a rate of 1/100k.

    In a normal advanced economy, about 1 person in 100k gets intentionally killed by a fellow citizen. Wealthy civilised people are just not that murder-y.

    In the highly abnormal US, it’s more like 3/100k, even when black perpetrators are completely removed.

    Sometimes people say “It’s not you, it’s me“… not this time, Americans. It’s you. Excluding blacks, when it comes to murder you behave like Maghrebains, Eastern Africans, or Subcontinentals; worse than Turks.

    • LOL: Biff
  260. yurivku says:
    @GeneralRipper

    you will do it yourself, asshole. Minneapolis, … ,Wisconsin, then elsewhere. Hide your balls if have them.
    Please.

    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
  261. @Larry Romanoff

    “I personally believe that US Americans are unable to do so because, uh, some people out there in our nation don’t have maps and, uh, I believe that our, uh, education like such as, uh, South Africa and, uh, the Iraq, everywhere like such as, and, I believe that they should, our education over here in the US should help the US, uh, or, uh, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future for our children.”

    It is unlikely that Caitlin Upton failed to finish high school: when she made that stream of incoherent Yanklish she was roughly high-school senior age (the median high school ‘graduate’ is 18.1 years of age; she was 17 years and 6 months at the time).

    Nowadays every one has – they have great maps. The best maps. I know some things – a lot of things, maybe not everything, but probably everything – about maps. People come up to me all the time, and all of them love our maps; they tell me that our maps are the best they’ve ever seen. Let me tell you, ours are the best – they’re perfect – you wouldn’t believe how perfect they are. When you see the maps – these great American maps – you’ll see how great they are. Great, great maps. Perfect maps.

    • LOL: d dan
    • Replies: @Biff
    , @Larry Romanoff
  262. Smith says:
    @Larry Romanoff

    @Astuteobservor+II

    Can you two correct me then?

    It’s strange to see Larry saying it’s wrong but with no proof to back it up. These facts are easily check-able e.g. Zheng He’s fleet and the mongols using explosives.

    And no, I’m not even a westerner, just your average vietnamese.

    • Replies: @Larry Romanoff
  263. @GreatSocialist

    I don’t know if you’ve seen them, but Joe Rogan’s interviews with Michael A Wood Jr repay attentive listening.

    Wood Jr was a Baltimore cop for over a decade until a freak workplace accident (a torn shoulder while moving a desk FFS); he’s also a Marine (he says that he joined the Corps as a 17 year old to get his shit squared away; he always wanted to be a cop).

    I’m very anti-cop for a variety of reasons – mostly to do with corruption and the omertà which makes ‘good’ cops equally-bad – but Wood Jr lays it all out there: that most ‘shooter’ cops are pussies; that most cops are scared all the time; that black cops are harsher on blacks because they’re dismayed at their race… a bunch of stuff.

    The first interview is 2¾hours long, but worth every minute…

  264. @Tom Welsh

    Ouch!!! You didnt have to hit him so hard…. Maybe 3 to 5 references… But all that?? Are you trying to scare them from Unz altogether? Lol. In all seriousness – it is sad how deluded people in the United States are when it comes to “exceptionalism”. Some of the things in the article are out of context – but overall – as with education – it is correct at the problems.

    • Replies: @Tom Welsh
  265. @Saggy

    I think the writer meant to say the US has the highest among “developed” nations rather than overall. That is his error. But for a developed nation the US is indeed the violent. And aside from that – when you look at many of the countries 1 to 54 on that list – many of them are directly related to crime in the US. Many of the criminal gangs in those countries in the western hemisphere are funded by drug proceeds from the supply chain to feed the United States. Without queztion the overwhelming majority of those illegal guns in those countries are bought in the US and shipped illicitly into those countries. That is not even debatable.

  266. @Vinnyvette

    Those references are for grade school. So you are a perfect example of this broken education system. You should ask yourself how come it is so easy for students from a supposed country full of oppressed people can send so many students to the US. How come Chinese can get into so many schools in the US is what you should ask. You also might want to look at some of those schools budgets

  267. @Smith

    That’s not how it works. You made the claims; you provide the evidence to support them.

    • Replies: @Smith
  268. Kali says:

    I just read a comment on this website; an American asking how (I paraphrase) “the greatest nation on earth” became such a shit hole. (Refrencing race riots).

    Could it possibly have anything to do with the self-conglatutory jingoism “y’all” fell for while you should have been playing closer attention to the facts?

    All of the commenters on this thread getting hung-up on the question of racism, pointing fingers all over the place, when self reflection would be a much more appropriate responce to such a hard-hitting, well referenced essay.

    Stop attacking the messenger and you might actually manage to learn something of value!

    The more I read on this website (commenters and contributors) the more inclined I am to agree with Larrys’ overall assessment and opinion of Americans. Of course this doesn’t go for all Americans, but enough to cause me watch the USA burn with uncharacteristic dispassion.

    A nation hoisted by its own racist petard. If it wasn’t all so sad it might be laughable.

    Kali

  269. @denk

    Try to straighten out those slanty eyes to see clearly who is the “Read Shit Head.” … just look in the mirror!

    • Replies: @denk
  270. Biff says:
    @Kratoklastes

    Nowadays every one has – they have great maps. The best maps. I know some things – a lot of things, maybe not everything, but probably everything – about maps. People come up to me all the time, and all of them love our maps; they tell me that our maps are the best they’ve ever seen. Let me tell you, ours are the best – they’re perfect – you wouldn’t believe how perfect they are. When you see the maps – these great American maps – you’ll see how great they are. Great, great maps. Perfect maps.

    Nice work channeling Trump.

  271. @Tom Welsh

    “We came We saw He died !” was the funniest line indeed from Hillary Clinton’s catalogue of Grim Conquests. Libya had many good things for its citizens –highest standard of living and education and social services–

  272. @Kratoklastes

    Beautiful. My sincere compliments. Donald Trump couldn’t have done better.

    🙂

  273. Tom Welsh says:
    @Showmethereal

    Actually I did the laziest thing – I simply copied the whole of Larry’s references section.

  274. Tom Welsh says:
    @GomezAdddams

    Just one (lukewarm) description:

    “Ten Reasons Libya Under Gaddafi Was a Great Place to Live”
    https://www.africanexponent.com/post/ten-reasons-libya-under-gaddafi-was-a-great-place-to-live-2746

    Unfortunately the placard carried by the lady in the photo was mistaken.

    That was why Qadafi had to die and Libya had to be “bombed back to the stone age”. Uncle Sam could not tolerate a foreign country whose citizens were so obviously far more prosperous than *average* Americans.

    • Replies: @Really No Shit
  275. Tom Welsh says:
    @GomezAdddams

    ‘“We came We saw He died !” was the funniest line indeed from Hillary Clinton’s catalogue of Grim Conquests’.

    I think that video footage was what finally made me see the light and understand the Clintons. Not just the astonishing butcher’s bill among those who have presumed to criticize or investigate them, but this:

    “Hillary as Prez…”

  276. In the category of ‘The World’s Most-Hated Nation’, I might have added something instructive. Surely, much of this negative feeling results from American military atrocities, bullying, and the almost overwhelming diplomatic and financial gangsterism so popular today. But there is another category that is far from insignificant and that seems to escape attention. I very much doubt Americans appreciate the extent to which their Zionist media are responsible for creating this condition worldwide. The surprise is that it is deliberate. It cannot possibly be accidental.

    The enormity of anti-China hate literature in the US major media during the past year is one instructive example. I had a long conversation with a senior Chinese executive who told me in the early summer of operating his factory 24/7 and pushing his staff to work 12-hour days to produce vital COVID-19 medical supplies for the US while partially sacrificing his commitments to China. After being exposed to the outrageous denigration of China in the US media, he said he would never again take any action to assist Americans. His final comment to me: “After this, I wouldn’t cross the road to piss on the US if it were on fire.”

    The US Zionist media are not only programming Americans to hate Chinese (or Russians, or Iranians); they are also programming the Chinese (and Russians, and Iranians) to hate you. This is the method used by the European Zionists for “Let’s you and him fight.” Media barrages of this exact same sort were very largely responsible for the onset of both World Wars, and are being used again in preparation for World War Three.

    Your own media are consiously creating racial hatred in you and in others, hatred which would never otherwise exist, and they are doing it to put everyone onside for another World War that only their friends want, and for which – one more time – you will be the Bankers’ Private Army, will pay all the costs and take all the battlefied casualties while they rake in all the money afterward. Your media follow the same pattern today against China that they used against Iraq, Libya, Jugoslavia – all of which were later proven to be lies.

    I wish Americans would think about this, because most everything you are being told about China, Russia, and Iran today are also lies.

  277. @Larry Romanoff

    He is Vietnamese.

    There are a lot of stupid Americans, but this is just a stupid Vietnamese.

    Americans have enough stupid ones there is no need to take more that isn’t our own.

  278. @Larry Romanoff

    That is the same thucydides trap talking point.

    But I must point to nukes. It makes all the talking points moot.

    It is why cold war never turned hot.

    But I must agree that the Media is turning the population of both countries to hate each other. Like the comments section clearly shows.

    • Replies: @yurivku
  279. @Poco

    This comment is like an extreme alpha male getting his shit pushed in, ass torn up on live video, smiling at the camera with tears streaming down his cheeks, stating I won, this is my reward.

    • Replies: @Poco
  280. denk says:
    @Really No Shit

    No need for mirror, your stupidity is fully displayed here for all to marvel at…

    Read shit head

    Its those Chinese loving Jews’s fault, they make us do all these vile thing, they send us to destroy their beloved China.

    P.S.
    Fuck your Jew cop out.

    Im still waiting for your answer,
    when did the Chinese ever laid their hand on fukus ?

    • Replies: @Really No Shit
  281. denk says:
    @Poco

    Anglo wins

    Who dares cheats wins ?

    Then please tell that cunt ‘real shit head’ and his ilks stop bitching on all day about
    [[[their ]]] Jew overlords and white genocide , all that jazz.

    • Replies: @Really No Shit
  282. @denk

    The dirty yellow rat cockroaches are everywhere in the US infesting it just like they have crawled all over Tibet, East Turkmenistan and Inner Mongolia.

    How do you get rid off those pests? You fumigate the planet!

    • Replies: @denk
    , @denk
  283. @denk

    It’s the dirty yellow rats that are clear and present danger …

  284. Tom Welsh says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    “Stay logical. Less worshipping”.

    I’ll see your warning and raise you this:

    “Words ought to be a little wild, for they are the assault of thoughts on the unthinking”.

    – John Maynard Keynes (New Statesman and Nation 15 July 1933)

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  285. @Tom Welsh

    The reason Mommar Gaddafi had to go was a twofer: a dislike of Israel and the elite mindset which believes that all the oil wealth belongs to them and not to the beastly Arabs.

  286. @Tom Welsh

    Thanks for not refuting my points.

    Good to know my points on this are irrefutable.

    Lol.

    • Replies: @Tom Welsh
  287. @Stogumber

    The poorest people in the US have the highest rates of obesity. High sugar high fat low fiber diets. Top that off with little physical activity aside fromwalking around in Walmart. You know the second most obese country in the world? Mexico.

    • Replies: @Tom Welsh
  288. denk says:
    @Really No Shit

    so its white trash like you who wanna
    genocide the Chinese, then stop blaming on the Jews, fucking coward.

    • Replies: @Really No Shit
  289. Poco says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    I am not an anglo nor a jew. I didn’t claim I won anything because I didn’t win anything. We are all losing. Dumbshit.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  290. Ponder says:
    @GreatSocialist

    You have nailed the single reason why USA is not a fully fledged shithole country —– its exuberant privilege of having the world’s reserve currency presently maintained by military threats like to Iran for rejecting dollars and wanting to open an oil burse in other currencies, like Saddam changing the oil payments to be received only in Euros, or Gaddafi wanting to institute and African currency backed by gold etc etc etc

    Once this privilege of printing money backed by bombs is eliminated, all those who keep saying to others —– why don’t you leave US if it’s so bad will be unable to comprehend what happens as those sub-humans abandon ship in droves.

    The only thing stopping this is —– how to disarm the monkey with grenade —- once the world read China, Russia and their allies figure out a way to stop the US without the US resorting to nuclear war, you can bet your last dollar that that is the day the dollars reign as the reserve currency of the world ends. As important as trade is, who wants to keep selling goods and services for worthless pieces of paper?

  291. @Anon

    The 80s frankly ripped the bottom out from those of us in the working-to-middle class Rust Belt. Not that the trend hadn’t begun in the 70s, but up until the 80s the region could still boast a paradigm of two-parent families who owned their own house, worked (and were promoted from within when deserved) until a decent retirement, voted, attended church (out of tradition rather than desperation), supported local communities and business, and provided their kids with either college education or a decent trade.

    The 80s were when a lot of people realized that it made more financial sense to offshore production and abandon unions. And maybe it did make sense, and maybe people always have trouble adjusting to historical labor and economic shifts, but it was done with such abrupt and selfish callousness that it utterly devastated one of the remaining vestiges of what we used to call The American Dream. Going back later was painful and depressing; it was very much like seeing the aftermath of a war.

  292. @Pft

    1) sorry to break it to you but When Jesus said “love your neighbor as yourself” He wasnt making up a new religion. He was speaking to Hebrews who understood He was quoting from the writings of Moses in the book of Leviticus.

    2) Americans thinking “God is on our side” has been one of the main problems. It is supposed to be the other way around. That is the problem with American exceptionalism.

    • Replies: @Tom Welsh
  293. @Smith

    The idea about why the Chinese failed to colonize the nations they sailed to is simply false. They didnt because thats not who they were. Those fleets went to explore and see the world and make links with people. That is what they did. The Ming shut it down because they felt it was a waste of time since they found nothing that was more valuable that what they had in “the middle kingdom”. But you are right that they werent “war ships” because they weren’t supposed to be. But water proof compartments and rudder technology was certainly pioneered in that time. And China did invent some naval weapons that indeed scrap. But your idea they didnt conquer and colonize because they couldnt is simply false. They simply had not intention nor thought. They brought animals back from East Africa – not slaves. Even closer to home – Ryuku was a tributary state – but independent for all intents and purposes. They could have easily did ehat Japan did when it turned it into Okinawa… That was just not their intention.

    Also while it is true people do still where Manchu clothes – to claim Han people follow Manchu culture overall is silly. In fact – many complain Manchu culture and language has disappeared because they intermarried with Han people. And the testimony of Manchu rulers themselves would show you the Manchu sought to govern their newly won Dynasty in the Han style. I am not sure how you could possibly argue otherwise

    • Agree: Tom Welsh
    • Replies: @d dan
  294. @Kratoklastes

    Correct. Also of note is that illegal guns in Canada are generally across the border.
    But pointing out that even if you remove blacks the US is still more murderous than other developed nations (not all OECD are) will certainly sting the “American Exceptionalist” white supremacists

  295. Ponder says:
    @Tom Welsh

    Tell him
    • Botswana- — a fairly comfortable country to live in. I only wanted to give just one, but I will give three.
    • Rwanda —- yes, the same one of the tutsi genocide. Unbelievably transformed.
    • Tanzania —- a fairly peaceful country with all you need, at one of the cheapest rates. Move in with a few dollars ( 100,000 is enough) and you could buy a farm land and build a quarry stone house of your dreams. Labour is cheap because food and necessities are very cheap. It was once a socialist country only now trying to incorporate capitalism. With an extra 100,000, you could live as a king till your dying days. You could be self sufficient running a fruit, herbs, spices and vegetable forest farm — I have over 40 varieties — and keeping all types of domesticated animals, fowls (for meat and manure for recycling back to the farm) and fish. And actually generating some income enough to run your farm with some profit within 1st 5-7 years. How do I know? I have such a setup though not in Tanzania.

    • Thanks: Tom Welsh
  296. @Poco

    Sorry, you just got your shit pushed in.

    No escape.

    • Replies: @Poco
  297. @Sollipsist

    1000s of bankers were jailed in the 1970s. So of course they have to change the system. 2008, zero bankers went to jail.

    System change complete.

    • Agree: Tom Welsh, Sollipsist
  298. @Kratoklastes

    Look at where we are getting our immigrants from – mainly countries that rank much higher on their domestic murder rates than the U.S. does on its. Latin America, where narcotraficantes abound, has sent its gangbangers here to colonize a profitable market. You can take the gangbanger out of his country of origin, but you can’t take that country out of him. We’re also getting people from the Middle East, where violence is also a way of life.

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  299. d dan says:
    @Showmethereal

    “The idea about why the Chinese failed to colonize the nations they sailed to is simply false. “

    It constantly amazed me how people will make things up when they don’t like China: ships too big, ships too slow, innovations too useless, mentality too Cao Cao (whatever it means, LOL), …

  300. @GomezAdddams

    And yet most Americans have not the slightest clue about what really happened in Libya and how their “change” candidate and the woman (who they claim are less war like) were responsible.

  301. @Crawfurdmuir

    FALSE!! Latin America got gangs mainly from their immigrants who went to the US and had to form gangs for protection. They then got access to guns and learn American criminal enterprise. As they got deported or chose to go back – they brought it with them and THEN gun violence soared in Latin America. To use one example the trump crowd like to use – MS-13 was a US creation. Most of those rough El Salvador people originally came because the US was backing one side in the civil war.

    • Agree: Ron Unz, Tom Welsh
    • Replies: @Crawfurdmuir
    , @Sollipsist
  302. Smith says:
    @Larry Romanoff

    OK then, let’s go one by one:

    1/Mongols using explosives of the Song against them and other countries, proving that explosives weapons were not banned:

    Confined within the camp, mood among the Hungarians turned to panic after their sallies were ineffective and they sustained repeated bombardments by stone and gunpowder. Terrified by the flaming arrows, the trampling crush of their comrades resulted in the deaths of many soldiers. The nobles inside the camp felt little loyalty to the king, and likely would have deserted had they not already been surrounded.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mohi#Role_of_gunpowder_and_firearms

    The Yuan forces disembarked and advanced in a dense body protected by a screen of shields. They wielded their polearms in a tightly packed fashion with no space between them. As they advanced they also threw paper and iron casing bombs on occasion, frightening the Japanese horses and making them uncontrollable in battle. When the grandson of a Japanese commander shot an arrow to announce the beginning of battle, the Mongols burst out laughing.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasions_of_Japan

    2/ Zheng He’s fleet were big, unwieldy and slow and travelling by hugging the coasts:Easily check-able by seeing Zheng He’s voyages himself, note that he MOSTLY hugged the coast. And each of his voyage averages about 2 years, with the sixth one being an exception (more than a year).

    Meanwhile, look at Columbus’s voyage with “lifeboat” size ships:Columbus’s voyages were more seaworthy, as it crosses an open ocean in large distance, and discovered and charts new lands that the westerners didn’t know before, as well as building colonies and forts.
    Speed-wise: http://columbuslandfall.com/ccnav/cctl.shtml
    Columbus’s first voyage and return was made in under a year. The second voyage being the longest has him actually staying in these lands and colonizing them.

    The Viking voyages in comparison:Despite having just small boats and lesser technology, they also crossed the Atlantic and also colonized new land, UNLIKE Zheng He.

    So despite the fact that the Chinese hype him up, Zheng He’s feats weren’t all that special compared to the ones before and after him.

    3/ Zheng He’s ships-size:
    To this date, not one Zheng He ship remained. All were burned down when the Ming banned the voyages. All we have is records that come after the expeditions.
    Oh but we do have this:

    In 1962, a large rudderpost indicating a rudder area of 452 square feet was unearthed at the Longjiang Shipyard. It has been widely said dimensions of this rudderpost corresponds with a ship of between 538 and 600 feet in length, lending credence to the notion that ships of these dimensions were indeed built. However, such use of this piece of archeological evidence rests upon supposing proportions between the rudder and the length of the ship, which have also been the object of intense contestation.

    This means that Zheng He’s big ship could have existed due to the existence of the rudderpost, but that does not mean such a large ship was actually made nor that such a large ship was used for sea travel.

    4/ Chinese conflicts deadliest being civil wars:
    The second Chinese-jap war was very devastating, with around 10 million Chinese dead.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Sino-Japanese_War

    But this is nothing compared to the famous Chinese civil wars, those last longer and kill more:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Rebellion
    20-30 million estimated dead.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Lushan_Rebellion
    16-36 million estimated dead.
    And the most famous, the 3 kingdoms conflict:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Kingdoms#Population
    From eastern Han pop of around 54 million, to reunited Jin dynasty, only 16 million, reduced to only 1/3. Of course, this casualty doesn’t come only from warfare, but also famine, diseases, but it’s a testament to the devastating of Chinese fighting each other.

    Chinese wearing Manchu clothes more than Han clothes:
    Let’s just say if you visit China, especially Shanghai (Larry should know, he’s in China), you will find more ladies wearing this:
    Than this:The latter being equivalent to LARPing in western circles.

    That’s a testament to how a minority, the Manchu, imposes their culture upon the Han.

    @Astuteobservor+II
    Uh, excuse me but how am I stupid again?

    @Showmethereal
    Wrong, the Chinese have tried to conquer and colonize before. Their various invasions of Vietnam were a testament of that, as well as the Yuan (Chinese-mongol) attempts to invade Japan.
    And sometimes, they were successful, such as the Han-XiongNu war (where admittedly the XiongNu were constantly raiding the Chinese, but still military expansion is still expansion):
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han%E2%80%93Xiongnu_War

    But the Chinese cannot expand more because they failed to do so, not because they were not willing.

    And to say, everything that is needed inside the Middle Kingdom is already there, that itself is backwards thinking and leads to the collapse of the various Chinese dynasties. Their ignorance thinking nobody else could surpass them.

    And about Han vs Manchu, I don’t know, but the traditional clothes of China from Qing onwards seems Manchurian to me, and not Han – Tang – Song – Ming.

    As said, we can learn a lot from the Chinese success, but also a lot from their mistakes.

    @Kali
    The message would be more well-received if it was delivered with less lies.
    There’s a bigger problem going in the USA than racism, it comes down to large but inefficient government as well as corporate leaders who suck the wealth of all races.

    Larry Romanoff trying to pigeonhole this “racism” problem means he’s just an agent of disinformation and must be combated.

  303. @Tom Welsh

    On the other hand, one may argue that almost everything important and useful that human beings have achieved was done by teamwork.

    Fair inequality (i.e., meritocracy) isn’t inconsistent with teamwork at all. People should get unequally rewarded for how well they contribute to the team. Some will contribute more, some less.

    If every team member gets exactly the same control, the same credit, and the same pay, no matter what they contribute, the “team” will usually cease to function and produce nothing.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  304. @Smith

    Oh, for Christ’s sake. When will you realize Wikipedia is useless as an information source on anything historical or political? You have selected one widely-disreputable garbage source and tell yourself you know it all. You are now a China expert. Good for you.

    In particular, the entire Wiki entries about Zhang He and China’s ocean navigation are worse than rubbish.

    Read this, particularly the section on China’s ocean voyages and navigation. Learn something real and useful before you begin talking.

    https://www.unz.com/lromanoff/history-of-chinese-inventions-the-present-and-the-future-recent-chinese-state-of-the-art-innovations/

    Further, there is no historical record of the Chinese having tried to conquer anyone. Next, the Taiping “Rebellion” was not a Chinese war; it was Jewish war. The Taipings controlled much of China and forbade the possession, use, and transport, of Opium. The Rothschilds, Sasssoons, Kadoories, and others financed, trained, and armed, an army of nearly one million men and launched the greatest slaughter in the history of the world – between 70 and 90 million Chinese dead. And they did it to restore their opium profits.

    Similarly, everything else you state is just rubbish, and I won’t waste any more time refuting it. I am not responsible for your education. If you prefer to remain as ignorant as you are, you have my permission and blessing.

    • Replies: @Maowasayali
    , @Tim too
    , @Tim too
  305. vot tak says:

    Here is a good example of pindo exceptionalism:

    US National Security Council Official Confirms Collision Between American, Russian Forces in Syria

    https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/202008261080286863-us-national-security-council-official-confirms-collision-between-us-russian-forces-in-syria/

    First the pindo propaganda:

    “At approximately 10 a.m. (Syria Time), Aug. 25, a routine Defeat-ISIS Coalition security patrol encountered a Russian military patrol near Dayrick, in northeast Syria. During this interaction, a Russian vehicle struck a Coalition Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected All-Terrain Vehicle (M-ATV) causing injuries to the vehicle’s crew,” the statement reads.

    Also called al-Malikiyah, the town sits in the northeastern tip of Syria and is where the Syrian Democratic Forces, the US-allied Kurdish militias, convene their Syrian Democratic Council.

    “To de-escalate the situation, the Coalition patrol departed the area,” Ullyot said. “Unsafe and unprofessional actions like this represent a breach of de-confliction protocols committed to by the United States and Russia in December 2019. The Coalition and the United States do not seek escalation with any national military forces, but US forces always retain the inherent right and obligation to defend themselves from hostile acts.”

    Now what happened:

    [MORE]

    “However, video footage and multiple reports of the event tell a different story. Video shot on the Russian side shows several US vehicles blocking a road, which the Russians then try to circumvent through a variety of tactics, including hovering low over the blockade with a helicopter and then attempting to drive around it. However, subsequent footage shows the US vehicles moving to block the Russian ones as they try to get past, until two of the Russian vehicles “sandwich” the American Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) vehicle between them.

    Rob Lee
    @RALee85
    ·
    Aug 26, 2020
    Replying to @RALee85
    So the Fighter Bomber Instagram channel that posted this video claims the Russian Mi-8AMTSh helicopter in this video was hovering over American forces, presumably to try to disperse them or force them to move. 318/

    Rob Lee
    @RALee85
    A longer video of the confrontation. US forces appear to be blocking a road and then attempt to block the path of the Russian patrol when they drive through the field. An American MaxxPro MRAP appears to collide with a Russian Typhoon-K MRAP. 319/

    Sahara
    @LMR_Sahara
    Replying to @Archer83Able
    Not shown in this video but another video shows the US MaxxPro MRAP being sandwhiched by a Russian Kamaz Typhoon APC and BTR-82A IFV/APC. I’d imagine that may have been the specific crash that may have injured the guys involved

    https://twitter.com/LMR_Sahara/status/1298678395664863232/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1298678395664863232%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fsputniknews.com%2Fmiddleeast%2F202008261080286863-us-national-security-council-official-confirms-collision-between-us-russian-forces-in-syria%2F

    It’s unclear which collision resulted in the injuries to the US soldiers.​”

    Short synopsis. The pindos (who are in Syria illegally) blocked a Russian patrol (who are in Syria legally). The Russians went around the pindo roadblock. The pindos then chased after the Russians, annoyed them, and got their israeli quisling arses handed to them as the result. The pindos then did the all american exceptional thing they are noted for when confronted with their betters, and ran away.

    Pathetic.

    • LOL: Tom Welsh
  306. upro says:

    Romanoff denies pretty every bad thing about China as a western lie. If Tienanmen Square was totally peaceful like Romanoff says why does the CCP censor it so much? Just let the truth come out, there’s plenty of Chinese internet users who aren’t shills who will toe the party line. But they’re so insecure and cowardly they have to censor it. If Romanoff is so correct why wouldn’t his arguments even be available on the Chinese internet?

    Because Romanoff is a liar. I mean go look at this archive its basically the Chinese equivalent of notorious twitter troll/race baiter Tariq Nasheed. Tariq believes african-americans have EVER done nothing anything wrong and if he sees a video of a black man attacking a white man for no reason he’ll justify it by saying the white man called him the N word with zero evidence. Romanoff is the same way, the Chinese have never done anything wrong. The only difference is Tariq is african-american, Romanoff is a white guy, and no doubt he has a chinese wife, doing the dirty work of the CCP.

    • Replies: @Biff
    , @Astuteobservor II
  307. upro says:

    I have to laugh at all the anti-american people. I wouldn’t disagree with real arguments against American interventionism or even American culture but you guys bash America mindlessly you don’t even realize how much worse it would be under China. French people criticize America, its like breathing for them. The American government does nothing obviously. French people criticize China, say something about the Dali Lama, One China policy, Hong Kong, Uighurs, Xi Jiping’s resemblance to a cartoon bear, get ready for a economic boycott on France. Its happened to China’s neighbors many times which is why China is so despised in its own backyard.

    And this is with a China’s that’s not near the power its going to have in the future. If the US falls like so many haters want it to and China ascends you will not have as much ease bashing China like you bash the US. And yes once China has the means they’re going to engage in all the stupid pointless interventionist wars America does. That’s not unique to America that’s just great power geopolitics which China is now a part of.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
    , @d dan
  308. vot tak says:
    @Thim

    “Ron Unz ought to reassess allowing this Romanoff to write for his website.”

    The standard zionazi-(very)gay approach.

  309. Poco says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    Shouldn’t you be dead by now? Still hiding from the pandemic obtuseobserver? I wasn’t cheerleading. It’s just obvious. You’re a moron with a strange obsession with anal sex and excrement.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  310. @Larry Romanoff

    Further, there is no historical record of the Chinese having tried to conquer anyone. Next, the Taiping “Rebellion” was not a Chinese war; it was Jewish war. The Taipings controlled much of China and forbade the possession, use, and transport, of Opium. The Rothschilds, Sasssoons, Kadoories, and others financed, trained, and armed, an army of nearly one million men and launched the greatest slaughter in the history of the world – between 70 and 90 million Chinese dead. And they did it to restore their opium profits.

    I concur!

    All wars are bankers’ wars and none more bloody and profitable than a civil war.

    If I may toot my own horn, one of my comments 4 years ago on this subject became a feature article at Darkmoon. Allow me to quote the relevant passage:

    “When the Jews were demonizing the Chinese in the West during the 19th Century—in order to justify their Opium Wars—they often cited Chinese cruelty and barbarity, without any irony and with a stern face, of course. Missionaries were sent to China, along with the opium dealers, in order to bring Christianity to the Chinese heathens and no one in the entire world of Christendom batted an eye, let alone cried hypocrisy.

    In truth, the missionaries were sent to gather intelligence and to sow the seeds of revolution for the House of Rothschild. The Taiping Revolution 太平天国运动 (1850 to 1864) aka “Taiping Heavenly Kingdom Movement”, with an estimated 50–70 million dead and millions more displaced, was started by Hong Xiuquan, a Chinaman who believed himself to be the younger brother of Jesus Christ.

    Folks, you just can’t make this stuff up unless, that is, you’re a JEW.”

    Cf. The Demonization of China by the Usual Suspects

    • Replies: @denk
  311. @Poco

    Lol.

    No escape.

    😂🤣😘

  312. @upro

    Until China does all the bad things you think it will do, you are just projecting.

    And no, there will not be a world super power after USA. USA would still dominate the Americas at the very least. Even USA is only one after the fall of USSR. The imperial dream is already dying after just 3 decades.

    China would be an economic power house n regional hegemon. USA will be the same. If EU can unite n work together, it will be the 3rd one. Russia will always be there with its nuclear warheads.

    • Agree: Showmethereal
    • Replies: @Showmethereal
  313. @Hypnotoad666

    I don’t think that is what he meant.

    Team work towards a goal doesn’t mean equal compensation or reward for all members of the team.

  314. @Sollipsist

    Your primary observations are accurate. This is what John Kozy (I believe it was John) called “The Great Transformation”, the time when everything took a huge step for the worse. You identified a few items, but there were many more.

    When the FED initiated the savage financial recession in 1983, that was preparation for this transformation, and it has been continued through the several economic shocks since, including 2008 and 2020, all part of the same process and leading to the same end.

    It’s not a secret that the recession of 1983 was engineered by the FED, though the instructions to do so emanated from Europe, and for which FED Chairman Volcker even publicly announced his intention to trash the economy, create a recession to the point where “blood would run in the streets”, and to destroy labor. Yet the industries of finance and economics, and the entire US Congress, treated that recession, which was factually a vicious planned attack on the nation’s economy and on the middle class, as they treated every other recession – as an unfortunate disaster of unknown origin.

    I covered this briefly in the following article, four or five paragraphs dealing directly with it that may interest you.

    https://www.unz.com/lromanoff/lets-have-a-financial-crisis-first-we-need-a-central-bank/

    • Thanks: Sollipsist
  315. Chinaman says:
    @Larry Romanoff

    Thank you. Very insightful. However, it is baffling to me how the US Zionists would benefit from the animosity between US and China and WW3 given their large investment in China. I think you are giving too much credit to the Jews and it is the “natural belligerence” of white Americans which is responsible for this hatred.

    The media just feeds on this cesspool of hatred to gain viewership and exposure. There is a market and demand for propaganda materials that incite racial hatred. It generate revenue in the form of ads, speaking engagements and MAGA hats. It is basically clickbait.

    With a bit of introspection, I can also identify the source of the schadenfreuden that emerge from reading your US bashing. It is the same emotions that the MSM feeds on when it goes China bashing. Just a different audience and there is a market for all races and creeds. These visceral emotions lurks in the dark corners of the subconscious and are usually suppressed because they are deemed socially unacceptable. This is why the reader feels a sense of satisfaction or an awakening when these emotions are evoked. I think racism, xenophobia and its counterpart, nationalism taps into something hardwired during our evolutionary history. Group selection, in-group altruism and all that…

    You are doing an exceptional job with that and as a Chinaman, I commend you for it. Your writing reveals a deep resentment against the West and Jews particularly. ( I don’t love them at all) My question to you is whether you have done the necessary introspection to understand which part of your personal experiences\history have contributed to your current outlook and perspective. In my case, it was definitely a worthy exercise.

    • Replies: @Tom Welsh
    , @Larry Romanoff
  316. Chinaman says:
    @Smith

    As a Viet, you do know that you are genetically indistinguishable from a southern Chinese, right ?

    You would be Chinese during when Zheng He set sail since Ming ruled Vietnam so don’t denigrate OUR legacies and achievements.

    If you are really Viet, you should really look in the mirror and recognise the Chinese in you.

    My brother, you are just a self-hating Chinese.

    • Agree: showmethereal
    • Replies: @d dan
    , @Smith
  317. yurivku says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    But I must agree that the Media is turning the population of both countries to hate each other. Like the comments section clearly shows.

    Well, media does it, but not to forget those the news generators as your POTUSes, their helpers the list is endles I don’t know where to start it Bushes, Clintons, Obama, Trump, Allbright, Pompeo … you understand I think. Are they make us love you, exceptional americans ?

  318. @Smith

    The Yuan were Mongols. First you claim the Manchu are foreigners and dont count… But when the Mongols want to invade other places as rulers of China – suddenly the Chinese are hypocrites..??? As to Columbus – it was not just size… The ship tech was not as advanced yet. Europeans only passed well after that and because the Ming shut down sea voyages (wrong move on their part). But you cannot be serious. Chinese map making was more advanced at the time as well. And talking about sea worthy on the open ocean. COLUMBUS THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO INDIA!!!! They literally had no clue what they were doing. Zheng hugged the coast because mapping the land was part of their purpose!!! Stop trying to twost history. And I never said China didnt conquer. There is a huge difference of having a dispute with a NEIGHBOR and then fighting and defeating them – and extension controlling what you took as a DEFENSE so that your neighbor doesnt turn around and invade you back – than deciding “we deserve to control the world and everyone in it so everywhere we go we will just take whatever we see fit”. Maybe in yoir world there is no difference.

    The only thing you were right about was that Chinese rulers both Han AND Manchu were foolish in dismissing foreign technology. But funny how now that the CPC recognizes that you all now say they want to take over the world. Make up your mind.

    • Replies: @Tom Welsh
    , @Smith
  319. @Astuteobservor II

    Yeah the auto-hate-China crowd makes me shake my head. They rightly point out that Chinese prefer to be insular and prefer to stick to their own… But then in the next breathe say China wants to tske over the world and subjugate everyone. They dont even see that they are double minded.

  320. Tom Welsh says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    “Thanks for not refuting my points.
    “Good to know my points on this are irrefutable”.

    Good example of a faulty inference. There is at least one other reason why I did not refute your points.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  321. Tom Welsh says:
    @Showmethereal

    “The poorest people in the US have the highest rates of obesity”.

    Naturally. A diet high in refined carbohydrates does that – especially as you get past 40. Poor people eat diets high in refined carbohydrates because they literally can’t afford anything else. Tom Naughton once priced garden soil against breakfast cereal, and found the soil cost more weight for weight.

    More and more people in the USA are poor, so more and more people are obese.

    “High sugar high fat low fiber diets”.

    No, high grain high sugar diets. Poor people don’t get enough healthy fats – from meat, eggs, dairy, fish, or vegetables like avocados. They do load up on very unhealthy artificial fats – vegetable oils and the like. They also usually don’t get enough good quality protein, which is also expensive.

    In the 18th and early 19th centuries European visitors were amazed that even working people in the USA ate meat two or three times every day. In Britain or France, it was more like once a month.

    The “food-like substances” industry has specialised for nearly a century in designing and manufacturing “foods” that taste attractive (once you get habituated to them), cost next to nothing to manufacture, and don’t kill people immediately. They just make them fat, sick, and eventually diabetic.

    Rich people – at least the smart ones, including those who are smart enough to do what theair ancestors did for millennia – eat a very specific diet. Lots of meat – ideally game animals, birds and fish, but they will fall back on grass-fed beef, mutton, and free-range poultry and pork – eggs and dairy to taste, fresh vegetables, some fruit… that’s about it.

    When I was at one of the leading British boarding schools, I used to enjoy massive helpings of rice pudding, treacle pudding, pies, tarts, etc. with custard. The rich boys looked down their noses and sneered. I didn’t understand why at the time, but they never ate desserts or puddings at home. It was soup, meat or fish, and fruit or cheese.

    Aristocrats have always eaten essentially what hunter-gatherers do. After they started the workd force on grains – which stunted their growth and made them chronically sick – they went right on eating the healthy diet their ancestors had. Among other things, it made sure that a typical nobleman could whip a typical peasant even without weapons.

    • Replies: @vot tak
    , @showmethereal
  322. Tom Welsh says:
    @Showmethereal

    ‘Americans thinking “God is on our side” has been one of the main problems’.

    It’s one of the many symptoms of overbearing entitlement.

  323. Biff says:
    @upro

    This is what I like best about Romanoff’s essay’s – they get trolls like you all twisted up in a fervor.

    Much like the never-Trump crowd.

    • Troll: GeneralRipper
    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
  324. Tom Welsh says:
    @Chinaman

    “as a Chinaman, I commend you for it”.

    Thanks for your comment – and also thanks for (incidentally) reassuring me that “Chinaman” is not a name resented by Chinese people.

    It has often been insisted on by the politically correct in the West that “Chinaman” is demeaning, and one must say “Chinese man”.

    That struck me as illogical, as we always say “Englishman”, “Scotsman” or “Frenchman”.

    (By the way, a “chinaman” is the name for a special bowling technique in cricket! I don’t know why, although it may suggest special cunning and skill).

  325. Tom Welsh says:
    @Showmethereal

    “…controlling what you took as a DEFENSE so that your neighbor doesnt turn around and invade you back…”

    More or less as the USSR did after 1945. Having very nearly been overwhelmed by Barbarossa, which was explicitly intended to exterminate the Soviet peoples and steal their land and resources, the Soviets reasoned that having a bit more warning might be critically important next time. So they hung on – temporarily – to East Germany and the rest of the Warsaw Pact zone.

    Then, 45 years later, they withdrew and left those countries their independence again.

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  326. Tim too says:
    @Larry Romanoff

    “Further, there is no historical record of the Chinese having tried to conquer anyone. ”

    And so why was there a battle of Talas? And there are some other such things. The facts about Chinese activities west of the He Xi corridor and points further west of the Pamirs would seem to contradict your assertion.

    But I could be wrong. Maybe it is a Rashomon thing? ‘That’s not how I remember it!’

  327. Tim too says:
    @Larry Romanoff

    “Further, there is no historical record of the Chinese having tried to conquer anyone.”

    And the Tang fought the Tibetan empire over lands in the Tarim Basin, 670–692. Isn’t that conquest? And there are some other such things.

    But then I guess it depends on what is acceptable as ‘the historical record’, and interpretations of events, as in Rashomon.

  328. @Tom Welsh

    Please, we both know it cannot be the second reason otherwise you wouldn’t be dodging left and right lol.

  329. @upro

    You mean the same French media that told the Chinese they deserve the terror knifing attacks that killed hundreds?

    Also the same media that told a Chinese journalist that freedom of the press = the ability to completely fabricate a front page news story? Like the Obama interview?

    And more recently, the same media that shit on the medical supplies donations from China to your worthless country?

    Yea, China should throw down their firewall so you can bombard them with your shit. Literally shit.

    Not sure about all of the French, but people like you of any nationality deserved to die horribly.

  330. @yurivku

    Two historically liberal Democrat states and cities controlled by Democrats. Pretty scary stuff. The US is a big country and all this bad behavior by niggers and college kid Commie trash is going to bring more white Americans into our fold.

    Watch what happens in November, my little Sub Con monkey friend. Wisconsin went Republican for Trump in 2016. I’d say it’s a shoe in this time around with possibly Minnesota as well.

    • Replies: @yurivku
  331. @Biff

    That creature in the video is one of your kind, little Biffygirl.

    Wait till you see them this next time around. It’s gonna be epic…lol

    Nice try at projection though.

    • Replies: @Biff
  332. d dan says:
    @upro

    “French people criticize America, its like breathing for them. The American government does nothing obviously.”

    Yes, they did “nothing obviously” – not obvious to idiot like you. They don’t care about USELESS rants like yours. In the meantime, e.g.

    “In 2014, France lost part of the control of its nuclear power plants to the United States. Frédéric Pierucci, former senior executive of one of Alstom’s power company subsidiaries, found himself at the heart of this state scandal. His story goes to the very core of how he plotted the key features of the secret economic war that the United States is waging in Europe…

    Frédéric’s story unpacks how the United States is using corporate law as an economic weapon against its own allies. One after the other, some of the world’s largest companies are being actively destabilised to the benefit of the US, in acts of economic sabotage that seem to be the beginning of what’s to come…”

  333. @denk

    No one wants to genocide the dirty yellow rats and least of all me but an abject lesson is a must to make sure you don’t get to big for your britches!

  334. d dan says:
    @Chinaman

    “My brother, you are just a self-hating Chinese.”

    The “self-hating” sometimes really gets to the point of hilarity and ridiculousness. For examples, when racist Whites claim that the Chinese are “copycats”, “thieves”, “not innovative” or “not creative”, etc, they usually refer to all Asians, and in fact, all colored-people. What is most spectacular is when you hear culturally imprisoned, Stockholm Syndrome-inflicted and brainwashed Indians, Vietnamese, or even Hong Kongers, Taiwanese and overseas Chinese regurgitate those exact words. At least the Japanese and Koreans seldom fall into the same trap because they have been at the receiving end of those racist attacks in the 1980s/90s.

    You just have to admire the power of the Western cultural hegemony and propaganda.

    • Agree: Tom Welsh
  335. @Chinaman

    I would like to alert readers to the fact that our Mr. “Chinaman” is not Chinese, but is a Jewish troll who is only about one-half as clever as he imagines himself to be. People of different ethnic backgrounds and cultures tend to have quite different sentiments and quite different ways of expressing those sentiments. Our troll has no idea of that.

    His above post is a not-very-clever apology for the Zionist rot in American society, and is instructive in the ease of twisting truth. Note his observation that the media “feeds on this cesspool”; the Jewish media do not feed on this; they create it for the public to feed on it. That is not the same thing.

    No Chinese anywhere would attempt the amateurish psychoanalysis our troll performs, so perhaps a bit more “introspection” would be of benefit.

    • Agree: GreatSocialist
    • Replies: @Chinaman
  336. @Tim too

    Has it occurred to you that if you have to look back 1,300 years to find a battle, that maybe you’re stretching a bit? How far back do you have to look to find a record of the US trying to conquer someone? Two hours?

    It isn’t a matter of what is “acceptable as an historical record”. It’s a matter of the source and ideological slant of your information. There are ‘historians’ out there who create the most imaginative and often vicious revisions of history, to serve their purposes. Wikipedia in particular lies about almost everything related to history or politics, especially when the Jews are somewhere in the background.

    Here is a post I copied from my article on The Pleasures of Depopulating the Earth: Insert this into your “historical record”:

    The Great China Famine was not as advertised in the West. China had some exceptional weather in the period from 1959, but all that did was create a food shortage. When we go to our kitchen and find the cupboard bare, we don’t starve to death; we go to the supermarket and buy more food. The question then is why, when Mao discovered his cupboard was bare, he didn’t simply go to the supermarket.

    The answer is that he did go to the supermarket, but it was closed. Upon hearing of China’s food shortage, The European Jews, using the US as an international bullying enforcer, initiated through the UN a worldwide food embargo on China. Vietnam and nearby nations were in approximately the same position as China and unable to help, but no Western nation would donate any food to China, nor sell any food to China at any price. The US and Canada particularly had huge reserve food stocks, but refused to sell.

    For three years the Western world sat and watched while 20 million Chinese starved to death.

    The Western Jewish media and ‘historians’ have twisted this tale to blame Mao for “killing” 20 million of his own people.

    “But then I guess it depends on what is acceptable as ‘the historical record’, and interpretations of events . . .”

    I guess it does.

    • Replies: @Poco
    , @Tim too
    , @Ron Unz
  337. @Larry Romanoff

    Then the source for your extraordinary claim of Americans and maps is a teenage girl in a beauty pageant, who was prompted by a poor mans Simon Cowell. Let that sink in.

    All of your sources are shit that I can see. My favorite is your claim of 90% Chinese home ownership lmao. Your source for this is the Chinese government, who’d never tell a lie (like Wikipedia, apparently). Imagine believing that 90% of Chinese own their own home, or 75% of the US don’t know what the US looks like.

    Few Americans would be that ignorant, or that foolish to believe such a claim.

    Your article is garbage because it’s full of claims that are demonstrably false, and they look even worse when you show us what led you to believe them, in the footnote.

    The disclaimer you put on top is cute. At a minimum you should learn about sourcing before you embarrass yourself again.

    • Troll: GreatSocialist
    • Replies: @vot tak
  338. Any of you boys do this shit yet?

    White American boys did that SIX FUCKIN TIMES.

    So, in some ways, maybe we are “exceptional”.

    Amirite?

    Americans are some of the best human beings on this rock. We love our country and we’re proud of our history.

    • Replies: @Uncle Fester
  339. Poco says:
    @Larry Romanoff

    Did China invade Vietnam in 1979?
    1962 in India. 1967 India. Take over Tibet in 1950? I’m not excusing US invasions just skeptical about pure as the driven snow China.

    • Replies: @d dan
    , @showmethereal
  340. @GeneralRipper

    That’s been disputed, but how about BUILDING THE MODERN WORLD

  341. Huhyte American Boys up on the Moon.

    American Exceptionalism.

    Smooches, darlin’.

  342. vot tak says:
    @Tom Welsh

    It works out like this:

    The rich have the money to buy better food products. They have the time to spend more time looking into healthy diet choices. They have the education prepping them on how to look at these choices, if they choose to use it.

    But a lot of middle class and richer people are fat, as well. Gluttony, greed, plays a large part. Plus psycho disorders about personal relationships. Also how susceptible to advertising (conformism, herd mentality) plays a large part, as well.

    The poor lack the wealth and resources, time and education. They make do with what they can afford and what knowledge they come by. The working poor literally have no time at all.

    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
  343. Biff says:
    @GeneralRipper

    Exhibit B: shows up.

    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
  344. @vot tak

    Well thankfully, the “poor” have phony Leftist dipshit cunts like you advocating for them day and night.

    That should boost their confidence.

    • Replies: @vot tak
    , @Tom Welsh
  345. d dan says:
    @Poco

    “Did China invade Vietnam in 1979? 1962 in India. 1967 India. Take over Tibet in 1950? “

    None of these are called “invasion” in any meaningful way. Vietnam and India have disputes with China. It could argued China did not start the wars. Also, China withdrew from all the lands she won from the wars – every soldier and every inch of land.

    Tibet has been part of China since Qinq dynasty – that is longer than the existence of United States, Canada or Australia. Even today, all nations in the world recognize Tibet is part of China – not one of the 200 countries recognize Tibet as an independent country.

    Finally, even if you want to insist they are “invasions”, they happened decades ago. Which major powers (US, Russia/Soviet, France, UK, India) or even minor powers (Australia, Israel) are as restrained as China that have not been involved in war for that long?

    • Agree: Ron Unz
    • Replies: @Poco
  346. @Biff

    Here she comes!

    Here comes the big girl!

    lol

    • Replies: @Biff
  347. vot tak says:
    @GeneralRipper

    The usual guardianista zionazi-(very)gay response. Otherwise known as likudite.

    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
  348. vot tak says:

    Follow up to an earlier article about the israelis pindo colonials vainly attempting to prevent the Russian hoards from interfering with israel’s terrorist proxies.

    US troops operating (illegally) in Syria tried to block Russian patrol despite being warned, Moscow says, after vehicles collide

    https://www.rt.com/russia/499179-us-troops-tried-to-block/

    ” The Russian Defense Ministry has said that US troops involved in a dangerous incident in Syria were informed beforehand of a military convoy moving into the area – but deliberately blocked its path, prompting a Russian response.

    It’s worth remembering that the Russian military is in Syria legally, under international law, whereas the American presence is illegal. Damascus did not attack the US, nor did it invite Washington to send troops.

    Reports of Russians staging a “violent” fracas deep in northeastern Syria have been doing the rounds in US/UK media since Wednesday, when Politico first broke the news. Citing the customary anonymous sources, the outlet reported that four US military personnel had been injured when a Russian armored vehicle rammed an American one, leaving crew members with a “concussion-like” trauma.

    Valery Gerasimov, chief of the Russian General Staff, reached out to his US counterpart Mark Milley through a direct line, reminding him that the coalition command had actually been aware that the Russian convoy was to pass through the area.

    “Nevertheless, US military personnel attempted to block the Russian patrol, in violation of existing [safety] agreements,” the ministry’s statement offered.

    Russian patrolmen were trying to avoid an incident as two US armored vehicles began chasing them, the defense ministry said in a statement on Thursday. Two more American vehicles then blocked the road, it added.

    The Russian troops were left with no choice but to take “necessary measures to prevent the incident and further fulfill their duties.”

    Footage of the standoff popped up on social media, apparently showing several Russian armored trucks being shadowed by the US M-ATV vehicles.”

    There is a very amusing earlier incident when israel’s jailhouse bitc…, sorry, pindos, attempted to harass a Russian patrol which ended with the pindo vehicle embarrassingly blowing a radiator hose. I posted a video either here or at sakers a while back.

  349. vot tak says:
    @Uncle Fester

    Is this another guardianista zionazi-gay troll or an israeli computer generated propaganda text? Their isn’t much difference between the two now.

    • Replies: @Uncle Fester
  350. @vot tak

    You got that gay shit on your mind all the time, boy.

    I could probably check your posts and find the word “gay” as well as references to sodomy in at least 80% of them.

    lol

    • Agree: Poco
  351. Biff says:
    @GeneralRipper

    We got us a four year old with internet access.

  352. @vot tak

    Look at your greatest allies in this thread Larry, their all jews and socialists.

  353. Tom Welsh says:
    @GeneralRipper

    I enjoyed your courteous, intelligent, factual, closely-argued comment.

    The more so as it conclusively proves the correctness of Mr Romanoff’s article.

    • Agree: Biff
  354. yurivku says:
    @GeneralRipper

    Ok, asshole. I do have pleasure watching all that.

  355. denk says:
    @Really No Shit

    The dirty yellow rat cockroaches are everywhere in the US infesting it just like they have crawled all over Tibet, East Turkmenistan and Inner Mongolia.

    How do you get rid off those pests? You fumigate the planet!

    Hey mofo,
    The Manchus conquered Xinjiang.
    The Mongols conquered Tibet, they invaded China for hundreds of years before overthrown by MIng .
    All these happened LOOONG before the anglos fanned out from England to colonise USA, Canada, Oz, NZ, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, GUam, Falkland,
    Diego Garcia, Marshall island, Okinawa,
    Jeju, Ph, Afghan, LIbya, Iraq, Syria…..

    Sounds like you’r all over the planet to me, may be we should all support white genocide to rid the earth of this vermins eh ?

  356. Smith says:
    @Chinaman

    Bro, I do accept that we are brothers, especially with the cantonese (and the japs from their language, notice how many vietnamese and japanese words were based on cantonese).

    And no, I’m not self-hating because I’m a vietnamese and not a chinese.

    I myself love Chinese civilization but when there are historical inaccuracies, I point them out, that’s all.

    Brotherhood doesn’t trump facts, and that’s a more healthy relationship.

    We can learn a lot from you chinese, but also from westerners, and discard the bad parts.

    • Replies: @Chinaman
  357. Poco says:
    @d dan

    I am well aware of the inherent evilicity of all White nations. I am beat over the head with it on a daily basis. Thank you for your reply regarding China and their withdrawals from conflict. The US should withdraw from their conflicts.

  358. Tim too says:
    @Larry Romanoff

    Larry, you wrote “in the historical record”. Just what time frames do you say are included in the historical record?

    No, I’m not stretching it: you wrote “in the historical record”. That’s a long time.

  359. denk says:
    @Maowasayali

    The mofo ‘real shit head’ and his ilks do not seem to need any guidance from the Jews , or whatever.
    Those are born and bred white trash supremacists, here’s the scary part, they
    represent the vast majority in [[[five liars]]] domain.

    P.S.
    With due respect to the minority thinking murikkans, unfortunately an endangered species.

  360. Ron Unz says:
    @Larry Romanoff

    The Great China Famine was not as advertised in the West. China had some exceptional weather in the period from 1959, but all that did was create a food shortage. When we go to our kitchen and find the cupboard bare, we don’t starve to death; we go to the supermarket and buy more food. The question then is why, when Mao discovered his cupboard was bare, he didn’t simply go to the supermarket.

    The answer is that he did go to the supermarket, but it was closed. Upon hearing of China’s food shortage, The European Jews, using the US as an international bullying enforcer, initiated through the UN a worldwide food embargo on China. Vietnam and nearby nations were in approximately the same position as China and unable to help, but no Western nation would donate any food to China, nor sell any food to China at any price. The US and Canada particularly had huge reserve food stocks, but refused to sell.

    For three years the Western world sat and watched while 20 million Chinese starved to death.

    The Western Jewish media and ‘historians’ have twisted this tale to blame Mao for “killing” 20 million of his own people.

    Actually, I’m pretty skeptical of that historical analysis. Here’s a comment I left a couple of months ago:

    Well, I finally got around to reading Yang Jisheng’s 2008 book TOMBSTONE regarding Mao’s Great Leap Forward, which had been very positively reviewed in the elite American MSM and by leading China scholars. Yang had been a high-ranking Chinese journalist with access to leading official sources, and he relies quite heavily on senior PRC scholars and academics.

    The book runs over 600 pages and pretty much settles the issue in my mind. The disastrous famine produced by Mao’s Great Leap Forward was just as bad as I’d always believed it to be, and quite possibly even worse. One of the later chapters which runs 40 pages is devoted to estimating the total number of famine-deaths based upon different methodologies used by different senior Chinese demographers, and most of them converge on a figure of around 35 million, pretty much what I’d always heard. Yang also effectively rebuts the various excuses made by Mao sympathizers.

    The rest of the book provides the detailed case studies of various provinces and is filled with horror-stories, including discussion of the thousands or tens of thousands of documented cases of cannibalism caused by the famine.

    https://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/china-has-problems-in-new-bipolar-world-but-u-s-has-worse/?showcomments#comment-3943816

    I assume you’re quite familiar with TOMBSTONE, and would be very interested to hear your case against it.

    • Replies: @Tim too
    , @Larry Romanoff
  361. Tim too says:
    @Ron Unz

    Romanoff writes “For three years the Western world sat and watched while 20 million Chinese starved to death.”.

    Canada sold wheat to China in that famine period. Canada bucked the coercion.

    “…By early the following year [1961], Canada officially announced the sale of about $60 million in wheat and barley to China.

    “As the food shortage became more apparent, China was forced to become more active on international grain markets. Due almost exclusively to increased sales of wheat and barley, Canadian exports to China grew from about $9 million in 1960 to over $147 million only two years later.

    https://www.manitobacooperator.ca/news-opinion/news/canadas-trade-relationship-with-china-built-on-wheat-2/

    • Replies: @Larry Romanoff
  362. @Ron Unz

    The main point I was making was that – from natural causes – China had a food shortage, not a famine.

    The famine was caused entirely by the worldwide food embargo placed on China. Everyone ignores this fact but this – to me – is the only important fact. Without the food embargo, there would be nothing to discuss here. You make the same mistake as everyone else: “The disastrous famine produced by Mao’s Great Leap Forward . . .” Except that it wasn’t.

    In real terms, Mao’s management or mismanagement is a red herring and the political situation at the time was irrelevant. The millions of deaths from starvation were the direct result of a food embargo placed on China, a years-long, cold-blooded and deliberate attempt to starve China to death. The same thing was done by the same people during the Korean war, seeming as an attempt to force China to lose the war through starvation. Google appears to have lost its memory on both events.

    Quote from the document below: “During China’s worst famine (1959–1961), the U.S. imposed a food embargo when the Chinese government was desperate to purchase grains from the international grain market to feed its starving population.”

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/323410238_China’s_Food_Security_Strategy_Reform_An_emerging_global_agricultural_policy/link/5a94b8a9aca27214056754e0/download

    This has nothing to do with being a Mao sympathizer or “making excuses”. And yes, I’m familiar with that book, and I don’t necessarily share all the conclusions. The studies that I trust most have been done by real historians and scholars, and all centered on the 20 million figure I quoted.

    It is also true that most, or perhaps all, famines of consequence have been accompanied by tales of cannibalism. In the West, our history books tend to miss this point while remembering it in the case of China. None of this is black and white. And just so it doesn’t go unsaid, I find it unpleasant that the West who was directly responsible for the starvation of millions then takes pleasure in these accusations.

    So far as Yang’s book is concerned, if the WSJ wants to be impressed that’s fine with me, but I don’t share their sentiment. The WSJ and NYT were also terribly impressed with Julia Lovell’s “definitive” book on China’s opium century, calling it a “tragic-comedy”. I don’t share their sentiment on that book either. In both cases, there are many other studies by more reputable historians that have come to very different conclusions. I don’t consider either of the above works “definitive” in any sense, and on this matter I am in the good company of many other Chinese scholars.

    You can read all the glowing reviews of Tombstone here:

    https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781466827790

    “Tombstone is a landmark in the Chinese people’s own efforts to confront their history.” Not quite. I would go so far as to state that any book on China that receives this kind of approbation in the West, is suspect, and it’s generally a mistake to assume (or choose to believe) these books have broad acceptance or approval among Mainland Chinese scholars. They are usually written for a Western audience through a Western ideology lens and it’s a bit naïve to assume they are free of dollar signs. The valuable studies and publications are published only in Chinese, and not by Western-oriented yuppies.

    • Agree: Maowasayali
    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  363. TJM says: • Website

    The author makes good points and backs them up with links to the statistics. But America is a big and very diverse place. The standard of living varies quite a bit depending on where you live. Also the degree of government corruption and police violence also varies. It’s not fair to paint the USA in broad strokes except perhaps at the Federal level. Butte, Montana isn’t Venice Beach, California. TJM

  364. @showmethereal

    MS-13 was a US creation.

    No, it’s not – it was a creation of Salvadoreans. If they came here and learned how to develop and exploit a U.S. market for narcotics, that was still their doing. We should never have let them come here. Chalk up another consequence of the Hart-Celler Immigration Act of 1965.

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  365. @Tim too

    Yes, that part is true. I believe Canada was the only country that did “buck the coercion”, as you put it. I don’t have accurate figures readily at hand but, if memory serves, the amount sold to China during the embargo was not too large. I believe the increase in exports to China mentioned in your reference were mostly after the embargo had been lifted, I believe in 1961.

    Nevertheless, my statement was correct as printed: “For three years the Western world sat and watched while 20 million Chinese starved to death.”. Canada’s exception was no doubt an enormous blessing, but that’s only one of many countries.

  366. Ron Unz says:
    @Larry Romanoff

    The famine was caused entirely by the worldwide food embargo placed on China…n real terms, Mao’s management or mismanagement is a red herring and the political situation at the time was irrelevant…So far as Yang’s book is concerned, if the WSJ wants to be impressed that’s fine with me, but I don’t share their sentiment…I would go so far as to state that any book on China that receives this kind of approbation in the West, is suspect…

    Well, I’d always had a pretty conventional view of the Great Leap Forward, namely that Mao’s totally irrational policies produced a gigantic famine that killed something like 35 million people.

    But then a year or two ago one of the writers here published an article claiming otherwise. I didn’t think his arguments were any good, but as a consequence I followed some links to some other pieces that made a more effective case. So after that, I wasn’t sure what to think.

    Last year, I saw a copy of TOMBSTONE on sale for $0.25 at the Palo Alto Library booksale, and picked it up, finally reading it a couple of months ago. The author was a longtime senior Chinese journalist, it runs 600 pages, his extensive archival research was assisted by a large number of regional Chinese officials, and he provides demographic estimates independently derived by a number of senior Chinese population experts. In my mind, he made an absolutely conclusive case that Mao’s irrational agricultural policies killed 35 million Chinese, with weather being a rather minor contributing factor. You really should read it for yourself and see if you can pick any holes in his exhaustive analysis.

    Among other things, the Chinese government stubbornly pretended to the world that there was no ongoing famine, so I very much doubt they desperately tried to import huge amounts of grain from overseas.

    The West certainly publishes lots of dishonest historical propaganda, but I’m sure that China *also* publishes dishonest historical propaganda. And just because a book is positively reviewed by Western experts doesn’t mean it’s false.

    • Replies: @Larry Romanoff
    , @L.K
  367. @Ron Unz

    You and I have chosen different sources of information and I won’t debate this further here. However, I am genuinely surprised you would discard a worldwide food embargo as an irrelevancy unworthy even of mention.

    “I very much doubt they desperately tried to import huge amounts of grain from overseas.”

    I would be interested to see the evidence for this assertion.

  368. Chinaman says:
    @Larry Romanoff

    If trolls are the commenters who start their reply with a compliment, then who needs fans!

    It is reasonable to be skeptical of my cognitive and psychoanalytical abilities since they are in fact not-so-special but to question my Chinese identity and to project your fear and loathing of Jews on me is pure paranoia. Just as your readers shouldn’t conclude that you are a Nazi because you expose Jewish shenanigans, me professing to be an introspective Chinaman commenting a website run by a Jew does not make me a Jew troll. The two don’t compute. I was merely trying to think a little deeper the meaning of all this hate because of your thought-provoking article.

    I have written more words of comments (60k, WTF) here than you have articles here on UNZ. Like minded friends here like D Dan and long time enemies like Smith here can vouch for my consistent anti-Americanism ( as Unz puts it) and I have been called a Chinese supremacist. Ron Unz will tell you my IP is from Hong Kong and this is where I reside. It was the coverage on the HK protests that brought me here.

    In all sincerity, I want to thank you for your article and your knowledge of Chinese and American history is something that all Chinese should aspire to. It help us put the current state of the world in context.

    Now, I should add that if introspection is not your thing, then perhaps you should get some external help.

    No self-respecting Chinese would let someone call him a Jewish apologist or Jewish troll and not defend himself.

    先禮後兵 , 禮上往來

  369. Chinaman says:
    @Smith

    Bro, Vietnamese culture is Chinese culture…until the French came to romanatize your name, your name was written in Chinese.

    I guess it doesn’t matter anymore. We are all speaking English and they have colonise our minds.

    • Agree: showmethereal
    • Replies: @Smith
  370. @showmethereal

    That seems a bit like arguing that the Mafia was an American creation. Certainly true in one sense, but inarguable that tighter immigration and border control could have at least pulled its fangs out before they had a firm grip.

    In both cases, they couldn’t have grown so powerful without a misguided political pandering attempt at prohibition to cure a symptom rather than a cause of the overall domestic problem — one that was exacerbated by a unsupportable glut of discontented lowest income workers.

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  371. Herald says:
    @gotmituns

    The other one is Israel, so that will take a lot of beating, but if we keep on trying success could be ours.

  372. @Tom Welsh

    Yes I should have specified the WRONG types of fat. yes some fats are indeed beneficial.

    I agree with most of your comment…. But I disagree about what you said regarding meat. Our ancestors did not eat so much meat as modern americans. meat was more of a “treat”. and even in societies where it was prevalent – the portions eaten were much smaller. my grandfather was a farmer who reared chicken – goats – pigs (cows required too much land and were expensive to feed). they did not eat as much meat as a modern American. My grandfather grew to 6’3″. my great grandfather was 6’4″…. Again he ate less meat. Frankly his diet was probably less caloric than a modern American and he worked the field all day (yes he was farming into his 70’s and I was able to see it as a small child). Both of them passed 90 years of age.

  373. @Tom Welsh

    “More or less as the USSR did after 1945”
    “Then, 45 years later, they withdrew and left those countries their independence again”

    True – but 1945 to 1990 was a completely different world than 300 or 500 years ago. If you use that same measure of Russia going back centuries – it would be tiny in comparison now.

  374. @Poco

    The only one you got right was Vietnam in 1979… Though the goal was not to take Vietnam but to get them to leave Cambodia.
    India?? No way!! That was the Indians.
    Tibet was a part of China since the 1700’s…. You can’t take over what is yours. All it did in 1950 was re-establish order and sovereignty.

  375. @Sollipsist

    No – not comparable. The Sicilian Mafia and the Neopalitan Camorra existed in Italy before they got to the United States. They simply recreated a watered down version in the US (for instance drug dealing – killing police and judges – killing relatives were all banned in the US but were commonly used in Italy). MS-13 is another story. They were created on the streets of Los Angeles. They took their structure based on Mexican prison gangs which were also created in California. Not the same thing at all. The two biggest gangs in El Salvador today were BOTH created in California. MS-13 and “18th Street”

    As to stopping them at the border. Again – the US intervention in their troubles caused greater turmoil and sent them flowing up to the US border. Same with Hondurans. And actually same with Jamaica in the 1970’s and 80’s (though obviously Jamaicans flew in to JFK and MIA). Stick your hand in a hornet’s nest you get stung.

  376. @Crawfurdmuir

    Maybe I should have written “US based creation” instead. It is a FACT that El Salvador did not have an endemic street gang culture. That was learned in California… It was then exported back to El Salvador – along with the 18th Street gang. Many in El Salvador probably agree with you… The murder rate shot up exponentially once they learned US street gang tactics and had US connections for shipments of illegal guns in their land. That’s why they – and Honduras and Guatemala – had vigilante squads that seek to kill deportees as soon as they got off the planes. Sadly for them – the numbers were too big.

    http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,59841,00.html

    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2007-jun-03-me-gerson3-story.html

    https://pr.aljazeera.com/post/153595769155/latin-america-investigates-el-salvador-assassins

  377. denk says:

    Pompeo presses Israel to cool ties with China US Secretary of State asks Netanyahu to limit Chinese investment in Israeli infrastructure projects, points out Chinese support for Iran.

    Israel, US close to signing deal on leaving China out of 5G infrastructure

    Another one bites the dust under
    The Exceptional’s
    Global Chinese Exclusion Act.

  378. @Mefobills

    Why are below average Chinese rejects even in our country? The Chinese presence has no national strategic or tactical benefit.

    They were here because they paid full boat for tuition and, by so doing, subsidized the education of millions of American kids.

    Now they’ve gone, just when our states are cutting education budgets.

    American education is about to take another giant step backwards.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  379. denk says:

    Sochal Faal, with connection to USN intel,
    peddled the CT that the murder of Chinese ambassador to Israel was in retaliation to the death of US Space force commander,
    Col. Thomas Falzarano,
    The implication is that Falzarano was bumped off [sic] by the Chinese, but why ?
    Que the two successive Chinese space launch failure in Mar.

    This is interesting,

    I’ve no problem with the suggestion that CIA./MOSSAD did ambassador Du, AFAIC its a given.

    Similarly, Col Falzarano was most likely responsible for the two Chinese space mishaps ,

    but…
    the suggestion that the Chinese took revenge by killing the Col is yet another naked fukus baseless projection,

    Coups and assassinations are as murikkan as apple pie, but never the Chinese cup of tea.
    no way, NO track record, no evidence.

    If Pompass and gang had any shred of evidence , how long do you think before the mofo launch WW3 ?

    Moral of the story,..

    So you think those swamp things in Washington are natural born liars ?
    well you aint seen nuthin yet, many of the
    lying pos in UNZ alone make Pombass looks like jeezus christ.

    JOhn albion Derbyshire call China the
    land of lies.
    The idiot should look into a mirror, do murikkans have mirrors at home , just wondering ?

    I’ve affinity with mathematicians and physicists cuz I like the subjects, besides, geeks are often more rational, rigorous and benign than lawyers and bankers and death merchants, the evil triad who infest the entire US ruling class.

    But in the land of liars, even mathematician like JOhn albion Derbyshire and former DOO Ass Carter , a physicist, are all certified lying pos, which goes to show how a fucking shit hole is this USA.

  380. Mefobills says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    Why was American education among the best in the world, say in the 1950’s, when there was no Chinese presence?

    Chinese don’t subsidize education fro American kids, whose education costs have gone UP.

    The costs have gone UP because under Reagan there was this idea that college should be funded by private debts, e.g. loans from private banks, but co-signed by government.

    Soon after this event, the college bureaucracy BLOATED to 2 or 3X the cost price from before.

    Also, the colleges became gold-plated as they embarked on a building boom. Hippy retreads put their hands out because after all, their professor-ships were so important to educate ummm brainwash the youngsters.

    The Chinese students are funding the gilded bureaucratic system and not lower costs for natives. That is evident in the data.

    There are other knock on negative costs associated with Chinese student presence, including demonstrable technology theft.

    Come on Godfrey, don’t be an ideologue, you are a data driven person. Let the data lead you to proper conclusions. I back you up when you are right on China, but you often square up against me when I rightly point out where China goes wrong. Stop doing that and be rational.

    • Replies: @Godfree Roberts
  381. Saggy says:
    @Tom Welsh

    You damn numbskull, I’m a Berkeley PhD with a resume as long as your arm working on projects like the space station Freedom (stability control) and the Mars Observer (inertial navigation). I’m a product of the US educational system and it is obviously unmatched anywhere in the world.

  382. @Mefobills

    Why was American education among the best in the world, say in the 1950’s, when there was no Chinese presence?

    Because the rest of the world was on its ass.

    Chinese don’t subsidize education fro American kids,

    The Financial Risk of Overreliance on Chinese Students
    Dec 17, 2019 – As higher numbers of students from abroad have sought a college education in the U.S., the country’s higher education financing structure has become increasingly dependent on international enrollment. Higher education institutions (HEIs) have relied more and more on the tuition of international students—increasingly Chinese students—to supplement operation budgets. Subsidizing higher education with international student tuition and fees may be running its course, however, as growth from China has decreased steadily for nearly a decade and appears to be entering a period of contraction (see Figure 2). …https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjGyqeQ78PrAhUj4nMBHRLfAxQQFjAAegQIBhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwenr.wes.org%2F2019%2F12%2Fthe-financial-risk-of-overreliance-on-chinese-student-enrollment&usg=AOvVaw1OPlZCo0y0_WCr9STKOdn_

    There are other knock on negative costs associated with Chinese student presence, including demonstrable technology theft.

    Name one case in which a Chinese agent stole significant technology from us. Analysis has shown that we gain more than we lose by employing Chinese researchers. Besides, China is ahead of us in science, so why would they steal from us?

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  383. @onebornfree

    I’m certain Larry said he lives in China.

    And the same goes for anyone else who doesn’t like it in the US, just get the fuck out, fer chrissakes, instead of endlessly bitching/whining about Americas [admittedly] many, many faults!

    Those of us that are expats still have a right to complain because the shit in the US shithole is sloshing all over the rest of the world. We’d like it to get cleaned up and say so.

    • Replies: @Larry Romanoff
  384. vot tak says:

    The “exceptional” way of flying an aircraft:

    US Navy Hawkeye Aircraft Crashes in Virginia

    https://sputniknews.com/military/202008311080331988-us-navy-hawkeye-aircraft-crashes-in-virginia/

    Fortunately nobody on the ground was injured or had their home/business obliterated.

  385. @RoatanBill

    I think this is a valid and very important point.

    I have neither cause nor right to interfere in the structure or government elections in Venezuela or France, because their affairs are none of my business and nothing they do is done against me or much affects anything in my life.

    That cannot be said for the US, who engages in many things that are done against me or directly affect my life, and usually in a markedly negative way. I have good cause, and much right, to ‘interfere’ or participate in US elections because there is no other apparent way to save my world from interference, bullying, brutality, wars, famines, misery, financial chaos and more.

    I don’t tell the French or Venezuelans how to run their country, because it doesn’t affect me, but the US, if given a chance, will turn my country and many others into truly ‘shit-hole’ countries to maintain their control of the world.

    I think every country should interfere in US elections, especially Russia, China, Venezuela, Iran and South Korea, and I think every person in every country should be endlessly complaining about America’s “many, many faults”.

    • Replies: @Kali
  386. Kali says:
    @Larry Romanoff

    I’ve run out of “agree” tags, but I do agree.

    A “thanks” to Godfrey Robert also. 🙂

  387. Mefobills says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    Because the rest of the world was on its ass.

    You are being evasive.

    The American System of Economy built out Colleges that were low cost, to thus have low prices for American Students. That was inverted with Ronald Reagan privatizing college funding, and since then the costs of gone up DESPITE THE CHINESE or other foreign students.

    We didn’t need Chinese students before, and we don’t need them now.

    The collapse of American education lower down in public schools had other causative factors as well, most importantly integration with negroes, which slowly led to declining standards… teaching to the lowest common denominator.

    In late 50’s especially, public Education was increased with extra government injection of public money, along with higher standards, to create world class outputs. The reason: Fear of Russia, especially after Sputnik sent out beep beep signal as it orbited the earth. The rest of the world wasn’t on its ass in 1957.

    With regards to Chinese theft of technology, that totally happens. It has even happened to me directly, although at a much higher level in the Semiconductor industry. My company was the first one to go to China and teach Chinese engineers. It was more than obvious that there were agents implanted in our operations. Americans are too brainwashed with neo-liberalism to understand when they are being bilked.

    Stop being an ideologue. If you read my comments I am supportive of China when they are in the right, but when they get out of line, they should be criticized.

    The stealing of technology happens with stealth. It is simple banal questions that are asked, especially in research colleges. The research colleges in turn are funded with tax dollars.

    There is also a concerted effort by China to target research level and above to acquire american technology. This is not stealth, but an overt effort on the part of Chinese government.

    Stealing the patrimony of others, to then monetize it, is not cool. It is a shifting of other people’s wealth to then turn it into prices elsewhere, thus victimizing American innovators, taxpayers, and labor.

    Trumpeting the rise of Chinese science cannot over-look the transfer of patrimony from America especially. This was a low cost way to boot-strap Chinese science, and I consider that low cost way a form of theft, a generational theft of America.

    Granted, wall street was in on the game, and American politicians were in on it too, so there is plenty of blame to go around.

    China is definitely not blameless, and the U.S. definitely does not need immigration (or foreign students) of any sort.

    It’s funny, that China’s rise correlates almost exactly to their adopting the American system of economy, and America’s decline correlates almost exactly to abandoning the model.

    And then somehow America’s genetic potential is questioned as the causative factor – as if Chinese are supermen. Then we have to listen to other confused arguments that somehow we need Chinese students to pay for poor us.

    Clown world is annoying.

  388. denk says:

    GLOBAL Chinese Exclusion Act….

    The Sri Lanka chapter,

    Chinese companies sanctioned for involvement in the Colombo port city proj,.

    https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/us-sanctions-could-put-chinas-sri-lanka-project-in-trouble-132747

  389. @Mefobills

    My doctorate is in comparative education. I did my field work in Europe. My demonstration project, in five New England school districts, focused on the obstacles to reforming/innovating in American schools. The conclusion of my dissertation, which was published in 1973, was that the system was doomed–largely for political reasons. Don’t bs me about education.

    We have always imported our intellectual and scientific talent. Always.

    With regards to Chinese theft of technology, a proportionate (to China’s share of world trade/IP filings) number of routine trade secret thefts has been exaggerated beyond imagining. There has never been a sigfniciant theft. Read

    PROSECUTING CHINESE “SPIES: AN EMPIRICAL ANALYSIS OF THE ECONOMIC ESPIONAGE ACT. by Andrew Chongseh Kim†,” CARDOZO LAW REVIEW [Vol. 40:749]
    http://cardozolawreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Kim.40.2.6.newcharts.pdf

    Conclusion: This Study finds that Chinese and other Asian-Americans are disproportionately charged under the Economic Espionage Act, receive much longer sentences, and are significantly more likely to be innocent than defendants of other races.

    Although it is possible that Asian-Americans are prosecuted more often because they commit espionage more often, it is also possible that they are prosecuted more often because the DOJ has focused more resources to detect and punish spying related to Asian countries and defendants and so spends fewer resources investigating espionage conducted by defendants of other races.

    This Study also suggests that the DOJ is more likely to file charges prematurely, based on weak evidence, when the case involves an Asian- American defendant.

    Although some of these disparities may reflect legitimate concerns over the risk of flight, they may also reflect implicit biases with regard to the loyalty of Asian-Americans to the United States.

    In addition, this Article reveals that the traditional justifications for pretextual prosecutions generally do not apply to convictions of Asian-Americans originally suspected of espionage for false statements. Rather, these convictions harm the accountability of the DOJ, may serve to punish otherwise innocent minorities simply for being wrongfully profiled, and, ultimately, may force loyal Americans to refuse to cooperate with investigators for fear of being punished for false statements.

    By addressing racial biases and creating more transparent processes for charging and resolving espionage cases, however, we can reduce the number of innocent Americans charged with espionage and minimize the harm caused by these unfortunate cases.
    http://cardozolawreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Kim.40.2.6.newcharts.pdf

    China’s rise correlates almost exactly to their adopting the American system of economy, and America’s decline correlates almost exactly to abandoning the model? Rubbish. Under massive embargoes and exclusion not only from trade and finance, but participation in the UN–while conducting four revolutions–, For twenty-five years, Mao grew the economy twice as fast as the US managed during its boom years and left China free of debt.

    • Agree: GreatSocialist
    • Replies: @Mefobills
  390. I remember a case from the late 90s or early 2000s where Apple settled a lawsuit from a Chinese company called Creative, effectively admitting that Apple had stolen the software for its iPOD from the Chinese company that had made a similar product earlier. Apple paid the Chinese company US$100 million but had effectively killed the Chinese company’s product by its blatant theft and market dominance.

    Many, many other cases of US companies stealing tech from Chinese and non-US companies.

    That’s why the claim that it’s only other companies(china) that steal tech from the US is utter rubbish.

    Given that the USA uses its dollar as the reserve currency to rape the rest of the world thru national-level money-laundering(unlimited dollar printing n forcing the world to use dollars n buy US debt) and thus financial fraud at the country level, I’d say the USA is the greatest thief and fraudster in the world.

    Let’s not get our snowflake panties in a twist and remember this before accusing other countries of stealing US tech– they are just doing what the US does to them many times over.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  391. Mefobills says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    We have always imported our intellectual and scientific talent. Always.

    The English used to point at the rubes in America during the colonial period, and exclaim and snicker about how backward they were.

    Benjamin Franklin’s Philadelphia Colony then built a great college and library, and then emphasized teaching. Franklin used Bills of Credit that were not English money to do it.

    The rest of the world was also forced to recognize that Franklin and the American’s had captured “Promethus Fire.” Franklin’s experiment on electricity forced the old world to sit up and take notice.

    After the Civil war especially, the American System was resurrected by Henry Clay, and public credit was pumped into the schools, and technical apparatus of the Country.

    Post Civil war was an explosion of American technical and scientific achievement unparalleled in the world. This was new knowledge done by unleashing the creative human spirit, where the conditions were set by the polity.

    Mao did drag his people forward, but not in the same way. It was a “catching up” to what others already knew. It was fast following. Fast following is immensely easier than innovating, orders of magnitude easier.

    With regards to having to import talent, that implies that the american population doesn’t have what it takes, that it doesn’t have a smart fraction. The English were obviously wrong in Franklin’s time, and your argument is refuted by Post Civil war years.

    Yes, there has always been immigration of talent, and the American System purposefully immigrated the best and brightest from Europe. Hamilton talks about this specifically in some of his papers, especially around the time of report on manufactures. So, the idea is to fast follow, catch up by importing talent, and then pumping capital into the schools and scientific establishment.

    Sound familiar to China today, and not Mao?

    China instead of immigrating Han “Asian” talent and know how, has done a twist where they “acquire” what they need to fast follow by other means, and I consider this method of stealing of other’s patrimony as cheating. The rest of the world agrees. Even the Russians were pissed off when China bought SU-27’s to only copy them.

    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/russia-angry-china-stole-and-copied-its-jet-fighter-designs-80351

    Conclusion: This Study finds that Chinese and other Asian-Americans are disproportionately charged under the Economic Espionage Act, receive much longer sentences, and are significantly more likely to be innocent than defendants of other races.

    I’m not surprised. Humans are tribal animals. This is why multiculturalism is stupid beyond belief. China is correct to keep their population as monolithic and HAN as possible. The U.S. does not need to immigrate Chinese or any other “tribes” because it causes high friction, and you get knock on effects like that above. When the U.S. imported European genius, it kept its population majority white.. that sort of immigration policy works OK.

    With regards to Chinese theft of technology, a proportionate (to China’s share of world trade/IP filings) number of routine trade secret thefts has been exaggerated beyond imagining.

    This is a case of if the tree falls in a forest and you aren’t there, did it fall.

    The data set you advertise does not include the soft importation of patrimony by sneaky means. This is my point from earlier. The Chinese Student or Chinese Spy uses other techniques, often something simple as asking. I personally can attest to this

    Tricks the Chinese used early on were going to trade fairs and using Chinese credit to short circuit American innovation.

    One example: A friend invented a rotary switch that incremented LED lights “ON” in a sequence for a miners head lamp. The LED’s had to be set into a mold. Our Chinese friends found him at a trade fair, then offered to build out the molds in China provided he licensee his technology.

    Of course he went with China as they offered funding (new Yuans) and building the molds for him.

    China then ends up with capturing the “LED miner headlamp” market. The America middle class is short circuited as it never had the chance to increment headlamp technology, and American middle class is denied its labor, and the goods and prices it would have made.

    When Clinton approved giving China hard won and invented technology, was that an IP filing? Or was that corruption of the American Political class with money?

    https://www.nytimes.com/1999/05/11/world/clinton-approves-technology-transfer-to-china.html

    The non-ideological answer is that the corruption exists in both China and the U.S., and I maintain that you are acting as an ideologue.

  392. Mefobills says:
    @GreatSocialist

    Given that the USA uses its dollar as the reserve currency to rape the rest of the world thru national-level money-laundering(unlimited dollar printing n forcing the world to use dollars n buy US debt) and thus financial fraud at the country level, I’d say the USA is the greatest thief and fraudster in the world.

    The finance class in the U.S. uses its reserve currency power to rape the rest of the world. The laboring American middle class is dissipated.

    The others that benefit include the Military Industrial Complex.

    Hudson showed how it works way back in the 70’s.

    https://michael-hudson.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/superimperialism.pdf

    Nixon had gone off the gold standard in 1971, the world then moved to floating exchange rates.

    The bottom line is that one of the iron rules of economics was abrogated. That rule: Trade between nations must always balance.

    After that event, the finance class in the U.S. exported dollars, and most of those dollars flowed into war and building out of some 800 military bases around the world.

    China decided to use Mercantilism, a twist on the Japanese model, which is also imbalanced trade, where goods are exported for dollars. China then acquires those dollars and sent them back to the U.S. to buy TBills.

    This then hoisted America on its own Petard, but it also allowed China to keep the dollar price high.

    TBills price high, Interest Rates Low, Dollar held up.

    The Wall Street/China gambit worked to enrich both the finance class in the U.S., and also worked for China to fast follow and climb up the technology curve.

    The end result is that american middle class and labor is hollowed out, with their patrimony shifted away; American heartland was subjected to generational theft that derived from a complicated economic mechanism that seems to escape the ideologues on these pages.

  393. L.K says:
    @Ron Unz

    The West certainly publishes lots of dishonest historical propaganda, but I’m sure that China *also* publishes dishonest historical propaganda. And just because a book is positively reviewed by Western experts doesn’t mean it’s false.

    Exactly. Same could be said with regards to Russia(*also* publishes dishonest historical propaganda).

    Re China, at least one of your authors, Godfree Roberts, takes positions so extreme at times, my feeling is he is not exactly reliable a source… to say the least.

    • Replies: @Godfree Roberts
  394. @Mefobills

    You quote Western, sour-grapes sources to buttress your argument, but the stats don’t support it.

    Here’s some data to support my contention that China came by her technology honestly:

    1. China outspends us 4:1 on R&D.

    2. China has 300,000 people with IQs above 160 to our 10,000. All of theirs are researchers or work in government, while ours work in Wall Street.

    3. Chinese kids graduate high school three years ahead of ours in STEM subjects–with the equivalent of a junior college BSc.

    4. China is the world’s leading patent filer.

    5. Chinese scientific papers dominate all categories in peer-reviewed journals:

    • Thanks: GreatSocialist
  395. @L.K

    I don’t pose as a source or an authority and don’t expect anyone to treat me as such.

    I provide sources of information–99% of which are Western–about China.

  396. Loup-Bouc says:

    I owe Larry Romanoff a partial apology.

    I have trashed two of his more recent articles because they bore assertions that were, at best, nuts, at worst emanations of emotional plague. Those two articles were rife with fallacies.

    But THIS article, “American Exceptionalism,” is spectacularly factually correct and perhaps the best ever exposition of the harms and stupidity, even evils, of American Exceptionalism.

    I recommend comparison of this: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/55507.htm
    which underscores some of Mr. Romanoff’s observations.

    • Agree: GreatSocialist
  397. “America is an idea”, goes Joe Biden’s latest advert, and I am inclined to agree.

    The Hollywood soft power of America is an attractive delusion that has seduced people around the world for decades until only recently, where the full-on corruption, intimidation and warmongering of the last 3 administrations has permanently vaporized the rosy view many people, esp the global young, have of America.

    Gone is the illusion of a land where one can pursue one’s dreams of personal freedom, self-actualization, wealth, success, societal acceptance and so on.

    Instead a global audience sees incredible hypocrisy, with the Trump regime spewing about human rights and democracy while behaving like thugs and rapists.

    All we see now are 200,000 dead from a virus that probably escaped from US laboratories, rioting and burning as US police have their daily shootings of blacks live taking vitamins and a microdick POTUS so corrupt, malicious and delusional he would make an excellent Netflix drama series villain.

    Given that the USA has already been raping the rest of the world financially through the US dollar for decades, this sort of thuggish behavior from the USA is the “tipping point” as white supremacist Unz columnists love to talk about.

    Now whenever “Fatboy” Pompeo, “Delusional” Donny Trump or his pet monkey “SoiCowboy” Navarro try to rape some other country, they get told to go and fuck themselves without the slightest facade of politeness.

    It’s no longer “America First,” it’s “America, Go Fuck Yourselves.”

  398. Smith says:
    @Chinaman

    Won’t deny that.

    But bro, like the japs, we can appreciate chinese culture from afar.

  399. Smith says:
    @Showmethereal

    I forgot to reply to this dude.

    The Yuan are both mongols and chinese, you know full well many chinese deflected and willingly joined the mongols.

    Who cares about map making? What matters is going there and conquer/colonize. China failed to do that, China failed to go over Asia and constantly defeated/bested by its neighbors, in fact, Chinese migration only explodes worldwide after the west colonizes them, for good and bad. It didn’t conquer Asia not because it didn’t want to, but because it couldn’t.

    If Zheng He’s ships were sea worthy, they would be going straight to the sea, and thus faster route, hugging the coast is actually very inefficient way of traveling. Do note that modern ships have very good mapping and they do not hug coast.

    And dispute that leads to invasion and occupation of neighbor countries are invasion, in fact, it’s the logic that the US is using, except worldwide.

    And if CPC is an actual honest player, it wouldn’t necessarily start shit with Vietnam and SEA as large. But welp, looks like China is up to their old tricks again.

    As said, I can respect China culture, but this push of China as a good and honest player doesn’t sit well with me.

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  400. @Mefobills

    Is China sending “agents” to absorb US tech as immoral as the US letting Nazi (and even Japanese) scientists go free in exchange for them giving all their info to the US government to exploit? Or even going further back when the US did it to the Brits and French pre WW1 – are Chinese efforts any different?

    • Agree: d dan
  401. @Smith

    I won’t even address your historical projections and inaccuracies because it was done and would be superfluous. And spare me the garbage about Vietnam and the South China Sea. Vietnam has overlapping claims with the rest of the claimants. vietnam seized the most features in the Spratly islands. Vietnam militarized them first and reclaimed land before anyone else. Stop the nonsense propaganda. But the accurate history of the 20th century in the SCS is this:

    https://chasfreeman.net/diplomacy-on-the-rocks-china-and-other-claimants-in-the-south-china-sea/

    I don’t want to insult all Vietnamese but it seems Vietnam is up to it’s old tricks. it hates China until someone attacks Vietnam – and then it feigns kinship hoping China will help. Indeed China helped – but failed – in trying to get the French out of Vietnam in the Qing era (which is also how China lost the South China Sea islands – because the French took them as payback)….. Then later China helped fight the US — and after both incidents Vietnam then turned around and claimed China was being a bully when China expected loyalty.

    • Agree: d dan
    • Replies: @Smith
  402. Smith says:
    @showmethereal

    Vietnam up in old tricks?

    Vietnam is just trying to maintain its own sea lanes and the island chains that Vietnam has historically kept.

    Also, China has never held these islands until today with their modern navy, stop talking bullshit. And talking about bully, who invade dVietnam in 1979 after the US left?

    By this dishonesty, it’s clear the chinks aren’t here to talk about reason, just another face of conquerors trying to pretend to be righteous.

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  403. @Mefobills

    Thief calling “thief”:

    Opinion: The tactics the U.S. employed to challenge Britain’s hegemony a century ago look similar to Beijing’s today, writes Katherine E. Epstein.

    Posted by The Wall Street Journal on Wednesday, March 20, 2019

    The Wall Street Journal
    Opinion: The tactics the U.S. employed to challenge Britain’s hegemony a century ago look similar to Beijing’s today, writes Katherine E. Epstein.
    http://www.facebook.com

  404. @Mefobills

    [China is correct to keep their population as monolithic and HAN as possible. The U.S. does not need to immigrate Chinese or any other “tribes” because it causes high friction, and you get knock on effects like that above. When the U.S. imported European genius, it kept its population majority white.. that sort of immigration policy works OK.]
    So, you want to steal the Chinese innovation of keeping their population as monolithic as possible (and therefore keeping Amelika white) and still accuse them of stealing from you???

    Do you know the English word that describe such behaviour? I think it begins with “h”.

    • LOL: d dan
    • Replies: @Smith
  405. Smith says:
    @Deep Thought

    Another historical inaccuracy.

    The chinks didn’t invent ethno-nationalism, that is inherent in nature.

    We do have a lot of chinks complaining about muh raysiss everywhere though, never mind their own state of affairs of over 92% Han chinese.

    • Replies: @Deep Thought
  406. @Smith

    Well I’m at least glad you didn’t attempt deny that China tried to help against the French – and did help against the US…

    Vietnam is trying to maintain it’s own sea lanes???? What does the Spratly’s have to do with Vietnam??? yet Vietnam seized more than anyone else. That doesn’t pass the smell test.

    Yes in 1979 China did invade vietnam – but not to take over the country… It was to get you to leave Cambodia. But Chinese are not cowboys like Americans – so China – who helped teach you all guerilla warfare – pulled back and just held your border areas for a decade… In the end that did help you to leave Cambodia. All was forgotten until again you started seizing in the SCS again. Vietnam – I have nothing personal against… But those are facts. China when the Communists got into power even made concession to you and shortened the 11 dash line the western backed Nationalists drew – to a 9 dash line in solidarity with you. Facts.

    That link is from someone who is apolitical and does not side with any actor in the SCS issues. You reject it because it doesn’t support the fake history taught in Vietnam.

    • Agree: Patagonia Man, d dan
    • Replies: @Smith
  407. Smith says:
    @showmethereal

    This retarded Singaporean ch*nk is still shilling, and I’m gonna destroy your every point.

    Well I’m at least glad you didn’t attempt deny that China tried to help against the French – and did help against the US…

    Vietnam paid that in full with various chinese invasions in history, Vietnam is not indebted to China, especially not with that attitude.

    [MORE]

    Vietnam is trying to maintain it’s own sea lanes???? What does the Spratly’s have to do with Vietnam??? yet Vietnam seized more than anyone else. That doesn’t pass the smell test.

    Smell test? Go to Spratly and check it out, all the landmarks and artifacts were Vietnamese, they are historically proof that they belong to Vietnam, meanwhile, China has nothing in its hands except map. No, your fake claim doesn’t pass the smell test. Again, your precious chink fleet didn’t manage to colonize jackshit until the modern age, as I have said and proven above.

    Yes in 1979 China did invade vietnam – but not to take over the country… It was to get you to leave Cambodia. But Chinese are not cowboys like Americans – so China – who helped teach you all guerilla warfare – pulled back and just held your border areas for a decade… In the end that did help you to leave Cambodia. All was forgotten until again you started seizing in the SCS again. Vietnam – I have nothing personal against… But those are facts. China when the Communists got into power even made concession to you and shortened the 11 dash line the western backed Nationalists drew – to a 9 dash line in solidarity with you. Facts.

    China has taken over Vietnam MANY times in the past, we don’t want their invasion. Invade and kill yourself, but leave Vietnam alone.
    What the fuck did China mean by “get you to leave Cambodia”? Pol Pot attacked Vietnam and got hit back, so what is China’s doing there? Oh yeah, a busybody imperialist, same as USA. And no, Vietnam never officially leave Cambodia, China’s invasion did not manage to protect Pol Pot, and nowadays Vietnam maintains brotherhood relationship with both Cambodia and Laos, aside from retarded Champa nationalists which are riled up by CIA and chinks. Fact.
    And Vietnam has done no crimes for it to be forgotten meanwhile China did crime and nobody has forgotten yours. China funded Pol Pot along with the USA and encourage him to attack Vietnam and then uses him as a claim to attack Vietnam, meanwhile China has no noble goal by protecting Pol Pot (just pure geopolitical interest to keep Vietnam in check), Cambodia remains a poor and undeveloped country despite their sucking to China, they are just pawn to be used. Fact.
    Meanwhile, the Spratly islands have historically belonged to Vietnam or the SEA countries with all the historical proofs and artifacts, while China makes up fake history and refuses to negotiate. Fact.
    And no, ch*nks did not teach us guerilla warfare. We have engaged in guerilla warfare against chinks way before the French or Americans show up in Vietnam. Fact.
    Both 11 vs 9 dash line are both bullshit, further proving that both the nationalist and communist chinese are greedy motherfuckers, trying to grab land/sea while remaining righteous. But fine, keep mentioning Chiang, it’s gonna make your case more ridiculous.

    That link is from someone who is apolitical and does not side with any actor in the SCS issues. You reject it because it doesn’t support the fake history taught in Vietnam.

    I read and he said this:

    China first asserted sovereignty in the modern sense to the South China Sea’s islands when it formally objected to France’s efforts to incorporate them into French Indochina during the 1884 – 1885 Sino-French war. Chinese maps since then have consistently shown China’s claims, first as a solid and then as a dotted line.

    In his own words, China claimed the islands on 1884, meanwhile the Nguyen dynasty (or even before him, the Nguyen lords) of Vietnam has claimed and colonized both islands back in the 17th century or even earlier. One quick check can prove him wrong.
    https://english.vietnamnet.vn/fms/special-reports/9481/historical-documents-on-vietnam-s-sovereignty-over-paracel-and-spratly-islands.html

    Many ancient geography books and maps of Vietnam clearly indicate that “Bai Cat Vang”, “Hoang Sa”, “Van Ly Hoang Sa”, “Dai Truong Sa”, or “Van Ly Truong Sa” (Paracel and Spratly islands), has long been included within the territory of Vietnam.
    “Toan Tap Thien Nam Tu Chi Lo Do Thu” (The Handbook of the South’s Road Map), compiled in the 17th century by a man named Do Ba, clearly noted in the maps of Quang Ngai Prefecture in Quang Nam area that “there was a long sandbank in the middle of the sea that is called Bai Cat Vang (Golden Sand)”, and that “during the last month of every winter, the Nguyen rulers [3] send 18 boats there to collect goods, mainly jewelries, money, guns, and ammunition”.
    In the book entitled “Giap Ngo Binh Nam Do” (The Map for the Pacification of the South in the Giap Ngo Year) made by duke Bui The Dat in 1774, Bai Cat Vang is also indicated as a part of Vietnam’s territory [4].

    If he’s apolitical, he would check the historical claim and artifacts of people living in the South East Asia Sea, and he wouldn’t side with such blatant sea grabbing. So this shows he’s actually political and a liar.
    Meanwhile, where are your historical proofs of your 9 dash line? Oh yeah, only the violence of your modern fleet.
    Also, give back Singapore to Malaysia, ch*nk.

    • Troll: d dan
  408. @Smith

    Look Smith,

    Compared to all the empires in the world China, Russia, France, Spain, Portugal, Dutch, Danish, the UK, the US, Japan, Indian, even Germany – ‘Nam is a footnote in the history of the world.

    No-one is interested in your prattle.

    Have a nice life.

    • Replies: @Smith
    , @Deep Thought
  409. Smith says:
    @Patagonia Man

    Fortunately, I’m not here to prattle, I’m here to educate ch*nks who fail history class.

    You display such arrogance, Patagonia Man, though that arrogance has doomed empires before, so it’s a good thing to have. I’m gonna tell you one more history lesson:

    Empires don’t last. They break down when they get fat and bested by their smaller and nimbler countries, as ch*nks and everyone else in your list have shown.

    And a nice life we shall have, Vietnam will keep standing because of our history, our culture and unity. Thank you for the wish.

  410. @Smith

    The Viets invented ethno-imperialism:
    .

    http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=218:thecaseofthefallenchampa&catid=47

    The case of the fallen Champa PDF Print E-mail

    Written by Suleiman Idres Bin

    Monday, 12 September 2011 23:36

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    chammapFor quite a very long time, the world leaders have forgot Champa, and no ordinary people know anything about what has happened to Champa. By virtues of modern technologies, the history of the fallen Champa is now being revealed in the media networks and has attached worldwide attentions. The Champa’s history is the worst of all the world histories. The Champa’s enemy destroyed the whole country and everything it contained, massacred all its population, annihilated all its indigenous

    races and wiped out all the country’s boundaries. The Champa’s declared enemy is the north Vietnam, the Champa’s country is the so called central and South Vietnam and the Champa’s population and indigenous races are the Cham, Jarai, Radhe, Chru, Koho, Mnong Maa, Bahnar, Sedang, Cham Hroi and Stieng…Etc. The North Vietnam conquered the entire Champa’s territories and committed genocides on its whole population in order to expand land from North-Viet to south-Viet. The so-called central-Viet and south-Viet did not exist before the first half of 18th century. There is nothing left for the Champa’s survivors now but the conquered country itself which is absolutely priceless. The total number of the Champa’s living people today is estimated 1.5 million half of which live in Cambodia.

    It is a phenomenon that Champa was found by its indigenous people with a multiplicity of races and tribes. All of these people today are the progeny of their Champa’s ancestors living in their own country without their own government and their rights to self determination are denied even basic human rights. Politically they are the oppressed races and socially they are isolated citizens and apartheid. All the inhabitants of highland areas, remote hills and no-man land areas throughout the country belong to the communities of the same tribe men whose living condition is dependent on weather and nature. Their basic needs, foods, clothing and shelters are relying only on what is described as self-supporting methods. Their primitive life goes on without education, healthcare and welfare to support life whatsoever. This is the kind of status and people that the newly adopted UN Declaration means to protect. In part it reads, “The Declaration emphasizes the rights of indigenous peoples to maintain and strengthen their own institutions, cultures and traditions and to pursue their development in keeping with their own needs and aspirations.”

    The official name of Champa during its entire existence from 2nd century until it was conquered by north Viet and completely ceased to exist in 1832 was Kingdom of Champa. Prior to this date it had been known as Linyi since 192 C.E. The Kingdom consisted of five states with one central government. From North to South they are: Indrapura (Binh Tri Thien), Amaravati (Quang Nam, Quang Ngai), Vijaya (Binh Dinh), Khauthara (Nha Trang), and Panduranga (Phanrang, Phanri and Phanthiet). The location of Champa’s territories in its entirety is between 11th and 18th parallel line of latitude. The country coexistent bordered North Viet in the north and Kambuja (Cambodia) in the south and the west.

    The north Viet was formerly known as Dai-Viet (great Viet) in the history. It was its intention and scheme that one day its neighbor champa would become its own country by all means and would be called south Viet. To carry out its policy of expansionisms successfully the Dai-Viet needed to take two courses of action. First was invasion and second was ethnic cleansing. One could not substitute the other. At all cost the Dai-Viet had committed crimes against humanity, violated the international laws, and ignored the rights of its neighbor’s country as a consequences of which Champa was erased from the Indochina’s map indefinitely.

    During peaceful coexistence with all neighbors from 2nd through 9th century, Champa’s population was living in happiness and prosperity and enjoying high civilization. But from 10th century until its end, Champa always had had problems with the Dai-Viet’s aggressions. In 1036 and again in 1306 the Viet attacked Champa and the King surrendered resulting in the lost of northern lands. But from the years 1311 through 1353, Che Bong Nga, a brilliant general of Champa had defeated the Viet and recaptured successfully his lost lands. Unfortunately after his death, the Viet regain the victory over Champa. Constantly the Viet invaded the capital of Vijaya and destroyed it completely in 1471 while Champa lost a part of Khauthara in the central part in 1611. In another front the Viet infiltrated Camranh and settled there as its new border in the year 1653. It was obvious that Champa was overpowered by Viet’s manpower. Finally it was in the year 1832 when the entire Champa nation was destroyed and conquered by the Viet until today. For the Viet, the mission was accomplished with the destruction of Champa, the “killing fields” of the 19th century and the death of its whole population, the unforgettable races.

    The history of Champa and its tragic story were written in many languages including Cham, Chinese, Vietnam, Khmer, Indonesian, Malay, English and French. It contained it full accounts and all the events of the last 900 years of its life. It is available in stone, and wood inscriptions and all forms of documentation of conceivable past. Everything was documented to such an extent that the world should be able to find justice and liberate Champa for its people of all generations to come, this only rightful owner.

    The case of the fallen Champa is very unparallel, and it deserves a presentation in the UN assembly. It has indeed attracted much attention of the international academics such as university scholars, men of letter, writers and historians. It has been the case study for their thesis, treatise and discourse and so on. They undertake the task of writing about Champa, its people and cultures for their countries. (Part of their works are provide at the end). Today Champa appeals to all peace-loving countries of the world to support the fundamental rights and the noble cause of the fallen races so that the peaceful solution and justice could be found in the international forum.

    All people of Champa are united under one leadership to continue their struggles for the independent land whether or not they have the support of the new UN declaration on the rights of indigenous peoples. First they resolved to liberate their country through non-violence approaches such as diplomacy, politics and economics. The needs and aspirations mentioned explicitly in the declaration mean that every indigenous people have their rights to self-determination and self-government in their own native land. In light of the UN declaration, the people of Champa demand that they be authorized to join the UN assembly for self-introduction presentation as one of the indigenous peoples of the world coming from a country whose name is King of Champa.

    Whatever nation is ruling Champa today is being condemned by all the peoples of the world regardless of their differences of belief and religion. No one nation has the right to rule or colonize another nation on the basis of one being the victor and another being the vanquished. In the history of mankind, there has been no such a rule that applies to the game of sport and gamble. Colonization in those olden days existed only within time limits although it brought both advantages and disadvantages to the host country.

    To achieve to autonomy in the territory populated by the native people of Champa, namely the central Vietnam, the case of Champa can be handled in the same way the UN was doing for east Timor of Indonesia about ten years ago. The number of Champa native population is twice of that of East Timor and so is the size of the country. In every respect, the case of the fallen Champa is far more feasible and favorable for the UN to pursue accomplishment in its mission than the case of East Timor, an island country newly independent. For the sake of the great diversity of the indigenous tribes and their national land, all people around the world shall not forget Champa.

    Up to the present day, the Viet rulers and leaders with their national citizens, populations and governments and regimes inside Champa are all but new comers from their north lands and are all but descendants of the late Dai-Viet ancestry and Nguyen dynasties who had converted Champa into their new Vietnam since 18th century. These Viet people called Champa (Dat Nuoc) or new motherland illegitimately or in violation of all laws and norms of humanity. In fact they are both imperialists and colonialists in one of the countries of the Indo-Chinese peninsula. They call their Leader emperors Nguyen, emperor Gia, emperor Minh, and president Ngo, president Ho…Etc. who had reigned Champa in succession since their success of conquest. All of these rulers have ignored and denied the rights to self-determination of neither the racially native and indigenous population nor have they had in the least a lenient policy toward them, not to mention their other crimes against the Champa Kingdom.. These are the Viet leaders who have been suppressing all the Champa’s nationalists’ resistances and oppositions of all form.

    Only and only the Champa’s people have the right to rule their own country in order to have peace and justice in our society and in our region, all foreigners do not have that right and are not entitled to absolutely. Such are the inalienable rights of every people living in the world. According to the geographic study, the almighty God has granted a country or a homeland to every people of every race in every location on the blessed earth. This has become the law of nature. All living creatures in land and sea bear witness and testimony to this eternal truth. Human being has no right to deny or change it. The territorial integrity of the Kingdom of Champa is indeed the gift from almighty God to the Champa people. Therefore, its sovereignty must belong to them at all times.

    • Replies: @Smith
  411. @Patagonia Man

    [‘Nam is a footnote in the history of the world.]
    .
    You are wrong! Nam sees itself as the 3rd most powerful imperialist country on earth– After Amelika and the former USSR!!!

    • Replies: @Patagonia Man
  412. @Tim too

    Where is Tarim Basin and which people(s) were residing there at that time and before then?

  413. Smith says:
    @Deep Thought

    Wow, so did the chinks steal from the viets then?

    What happened to all the manchu and mongol, xiongnu, khitdan, tangut?

  414. @Deep Thought

    … and that kind of imperial hubris, (i.e., extreme or foolish pride or dangerous overconfidence, often combined with arrogance) is exactly why Nam will remain a footnote in history!

  415. @Smith

    [Wow, so did the chinks steal from the viets then?]
    .
    If they did, the “3rd greatest military power in the world” should steal it all back– just like what the Chinese had done to “the manchu and mongol, xiongnu, khitdan, tangut”. I am 100% behind you!!! ;-D, ;-D, ;-D
    .
    .
    [What happened to all the manchu and mongol, xiongnu, khitdan, tangut?]
    .
    They have all been “stolen” back by the Chinese!
    .
    That is one peril they, and the Japponese, did NOT consider!!!

  416. @Smith

    I see you are seriously delusional. For you to seriously think the Vietnamese held sway over the Spratly islands before anyone else is not even worth arguing. No doubt the Champa people were otu there… But holding sovereignty??? Yeah right… You are beyond help. yes it is correct – by the source that I sent to you that in 1884 was the first time China made overt claims. Why? The writer implied why but your daftness won’t let you see… Prior to that – nobody ever challenged China in the region for those islands before the French. The name “South China Sea” itself was a name given to it by WESTERNERS in the 16th century. They named it that for the same reason they named what is ASEAN now “indo china”. Big neighbors had the big influence. Such as it was in the seas.
    In any event – fast forward to modern times and the Japanese militarily took those islands. Then after WW2 Japan signed it over the western backed Republic of China. The People’s Republic of China superseded them and reduced the ROC 11 dash line to a 9 dash line to accommodate Vietnam. Decades later Vietnam decided that’s not enough anymore. It’s hypocrisy.

    I won’t even waste time with the rest of your points. It’s like writing a rock.

    And your use of ethnic slurs shows you probably aren’t a Vietnamese. Either you are an old soldier who fell in love with a “flame” in Vietnam during the war and now projects himself into the situation… Or your are a child born out of a war dalliance and are frustrated.

    • Replies: @Smith
  417. @Smith

    [Wow, so did the chinks steal from the viets then?]
    .
    If what you try to imply above is true (that Viets stole from the Cham people like the Chinese stole from the Viets), then you are merely admitting that Nam/Viets are just small versions of China/Chinese– from intellectual ability to chauvinist attitude, from body size to penis size– which, of course, is the chauvinist Chinese’s view about Vietnam/Vietnamese and which is also the view the Viets resent the MOST!!!
    .
    If you were a real Viet, WHY are you working so hard to propagate a narrative that the Viets hate so much???!!!

    • Thanks: showmethereal
  418. Smith says:
    @showmethereal

    So please provide the artifact and historical documents? Provide the proofs that the chinks actually owned the South East Asia sea historically?

    1. The artifacts and landmarks are there, and it’s vietnamese.

    2. Champa is a part of Vietnam, and the cham people are vietnamese, so it’s not even an argument to bring up Champa.

    3. Provided Champa is put into question, Champa has never given the sea nor land to the chinks.

    4. The South China Sea is called by the westerners, we vietnamese call it the East Sea and we are the actual native in the region.

    5. Your source says 1884, meanwhile my source says 17th or earlier, so which is sooner? Your source is inherently biased because he doesn’t list the historical claim of Vietnam, already made centuries earlier than chinks or Chiang.

    6. Japan giving lands to chinks? Irrelevant, Viet Minh under Ho Chi Minh kicked out the japs and retook the government, any claim and dealing you have under the japs, you go to the japs and ask for it.

    7. The 11 dash line or 9 dash line? Both bullshit claim by China that has never been proven historically, China failed to conquer/colonize in the past and now try to landgrab/sea grab ASEAN nations with their modern fleet, that’s pure aggression, of course NOBODY is going to take it.

    And seriously, every asian country use slurs against foreigners. I know chinks have their slurs for vietnamese, and japs and koreans have slurs for chinks, the usage of slurs doesn’t mean you are “white”, so stop trying to virtue signal you dirty singaporean chink.

    You are the imperalist crying thief. You cannot argue further because your logic is flawed, and based entirely upon your own fake history.

    • Troll: d dan
  419. @Smith

    I won’t respond to your bullet points because they are nonsense which doesn’t stand up to real scholarship..
    But to your last sentence – if China is imperialist – then what was Vietnam in seizing those islands clown??? And Champa is Vietnamese??? yet when Chinese have different ethnic groups you imperialism. You are indoctrinated clown who trips over your own hypocrisy.

    • Replies: @Smith
  420. vox4non says:

    Smith is like one of those nationalists / jingoists that are blind to their own nation’s faults but ever so ready to point out others.

    It’s understandable if Smith (such a standard Western name yet so ironic for someone behaving so pugnaciously as a Viet nationalist) does not want to elaborate on his country’s less glorious past but to whitewash (I wonder where he learned it from) history so much speaks much of his delusions of grandeur. He may wish to deflect on Champa all he wants but enough scholarly works disprove him otherwise, if he cared to look.

    His victim-hood only stems when he addresses China, and the racist epithets that he uses. I suspect the reason that he resents China so much, is because China is so much more than he is.

    • Agree: showmethereal
  421. vox4non says:

    The USA needs to do lots of introspection, but that requires a humility and a willingness to learn. That also means dropping the mindset of the American exceptionalism. Without which, the ideals remain just ideals; and the longer the US takes to return to that, the gulf between words and deeds grow wider and the hypocrisy becomes more rank.

  422. @Smith

    What are you complaining about Smith old- boy? 800 military bases worldwide is 1,000 too few??? Vote for Trump of the other guy- enjoy !! Freedom and democracy–the second amendment-the Lolita Express– Hillary should be have been Queen—WWIII put off by 4 years—–the bible—all men created equal and more nonsense—-ask Mikey Pompeo-

  423. Smith says:
    @showmethereal

    Hey chink, take long time to reply to this post.

    Vietnam holds these islands by our historical claim and international law, we are not seizing shit, chink, you are.

    And champa people is one ethnic group in Vietnam.

    And yes, the fact we annexed Champa doesn’t mean you chinks did not do imperialism and or not currently doing imperialism, such as what you are doing right now in our sea.

    And who’s indoctrinated? You constantly fail to prove your claims yet dare to say your opponent is the brainwashed one, LOL.

    @ vox4non

    What’s to elaborate? War happens and Vietnam annexed Champa, now champa people live in Vietnam.

    The only ones who seem to be mad about this are chinks, because they want to point out HUURRR YOU DO IT TOO, never mind that they did to the xiong nu, hmong, khitdan, tangut, and now is doing to be tibetan and uighurs.

    And China isn’t much more than anything really, it’s just a big robber, that’s why it’s constantly defeated by Vietnam.

    @ GomezAdddams

    I’m complaining about chink imperialism in the South East Asian sea.

    • Replies: @GomezAdddams
  424. @onebornfree

    A classic “either-or” fallacy. Amerikka, love it or leave it. But nothing in between.

  425. Icy Blast says:
    @Tom Welsh

    Does your spaceship ever land on Earth? To take on supplies, for example?

  426. @Smith

    You got 780 military bases worldwide—need more??

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