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From the moment I was born, I’ve wanted to write a 20,000-word tribute to Barbra Streisand, but this is not it, unfortunately. I’m still not ready. Instead, I want to talk about how we routinely distort, embellish or simply erase much the past, so what’s preserved and presented is not so embarrassing.

It’s a universal impulse. Photos are carefully chosen or touched up, personal accounts are self-exculpating if not glorifying, too many histories are cartoony tomes, and lifelong assholes are eulogized.

I know a man in his 60’s who was exposed as having a five-year-old bastard with a much younger woman. Before his wife could finalize their divorce, the geriatric Priapus dropped dead, however, so his obituary simply stated that he was a “loving father and faithful husband who would be deeply missed by his grieving wife, daughters and grandchildren.”

At Unz Review, the American Pravda series has called bullshit on the dogmatic versions of World War II, the Holocaust, JFK’s assassination, 9/11 and other key events. It has forced us to see beyond the clichés about Winston Churchill, Adolf Hitler and John McCain, etc. Though the “moon landings” are not scrutinized here, others at Unz have raised a huge red flag on the gold tinfoil-wrapped mother of all achievements.

What a joke it is to display that farcical lander at the Smithsonian. I’ve seen it many times. Go look for yourself.

Since historians have so often lied, it is imperative that we reexamine the past endlessly, and when there’s a law against it, such as the case with the Holocaust, we can be sure the official falsehood can’t withstand inquiry, so must be defended by force.

At least no one is defending Jankiel Wiernik and Vasily Grossman for claiming that an SS man, Josef Hirtreiter, could tear a child in half with his bare hands.

Grossman, “This creature specialized in the killing of children. Evidently endowed with unusual strength, it would suddenly snatch a child out of the crowd, swing him or her about like a cudgel and then either smash their head against the ground or simply tear them in half. When I first heard about this creature—supposedly human, supposedly born of a woman—I could not believe the unthinkable things I was told. But when I heard these stories repeated by eyewitnesses, when I realized that these witnesses saw them as mere details, entirely in keeping with everything else about the hellish regime of Treblinka, then I came to believe that what I had heard was true.”

Yes, as true as Elie Wiesel’s infants being tossed into the air as targets for machine guns, his hanged boy writhing for more than half an hour because he was too light for the rope, and a dying boy playing Beethoven, on his last night on earth, for the dead and dying. As has been pointed out in an Alexander Cockburn article, permanently featured at Unz, there’s no way the violin strings could have survived the maddening cold during that 30-mile march through the snow, assuming there was even a violin, but hey, Wiesel was a guy who claimed to have read Kant’s Critique of Pure Reason in a nonexistent Yiddish translation.

Shameless liars and fabulists aside, even honest accounts are necessary selective, thus unavoidably subjective.

In a recent Unz article, Guillaume Durocher explains, “Any historian’s work is only as good as his criteria for accepting documents and other data as valid, his criteria for highlighting or accepting this or that fact from the huge mass of historical data, and his inferences.” So even the best and most enlightening history is woefully incomplete. That’s why we must keep investigating.

Can it be that it was all so simple then? Or has time rewritten every line? As soon as it’s written, said or even thought, Barbra, it’s been revised or hedged, if not doctored. Oh, how I love you!

See, even that blunt headed declaration is not exactly how I really feel about Barbra, but we can do it all again, and again, as in refining each remembrance, description and definition, so as to inch closer to a truer understanding of anything, for as painful as it is to remember, the worst is to memorialize bullshit, and it’s positively evil to make others revere the same, so let’s comb through every inch of that cursed earth for bone fragments or bullshit, whatever turns up. What’s your objection?

Lordy, and I began this doodle aiming only to retrieve lost trivia, as in the way we really were. Here in Busan, I see an Englishacademy,” or hagwon, nearly every block, but the English on people’s clothing and shop signs are often ridiculous. For example, there’s a chain of clothing stores called “WELL MADE,” so far so good, but here’s its slogan, as stated in bold on each façade, “FOR OUR WORK AND LIFE BALANCE WITH INDIAN.”

For such a large chain, with stores everywhere, you’d think they must have at least one English proficient employee who could say, “Wait a second here, this doesn’t make any sense.”

There are so many other weird examples, and even the names of English academies can be off, such as “ADVANCE ENGLISH” or “UNIQUE ENGLISH.” No one should learn basic English to become like James Joyce of Finnegans Wake.

The English literature on Japan is quite vast, but not so with Korea. There is one book, though, that delves into the strange world of English teaching here. In No Couches in Korea, Kevin M. Maher tells us:

We were left to fend for ourselves—we had no program, few resources, an owner who couldn’t speak English, and a director who didn’t care. We taught however we wanted. If a teacher was sex-minded, he steered his respective classes into sexual topics. Students that liked that, would take their course. If a teacher were politicized or religious, they would gear their lessons in that direction. Years later, I would see every kind of teacher in all sorts of different situations. They used the classroom as a venue to teach and argue for their personal values or causes. Other teachers always brought board games to every class. Their discussion would be generated around that game.

Maher taught in Busan in 1996-97, and among his three roommates was a Rush and comic book geek who loudly complained of his sexual frustration and watched TV from six inches away. Everyone shunned him. Still, this insufferable weirdo was also an English teacher because he was, well, a white native speaker of English.

They were crammed into a tiny apartment up a hill in Deokcheon-dong. I’ve been there. Now thoroughly gentrified, it was rather dumpy then. Next to Maher’s daily bus stop was “a monstrous pile of garbage,” and to even get there, he had to walk through South Korea’s largest dogmeat market.

This funky experience inspired some of Maher’s best prose, so it’s more than worth it, “Butcher tables were set up next to the cages. The dog meat had been boiled and skinned, and you could see the entire musculature of their bodies—and the looks of horror frozen on their faces. Little skinless dogs were heaped in stiff piles. Next to them were dog limbs and other body parts sliced into different cuts. A head attached to the breastbone, the rest being cut into separate pieces.”

Also striking is Maher’s description of his very first class, and the 25-year-old had just arrived, without any sleep, after a 15-hour plane ride from Portland, Oregon:

Inside the classroom, there were only twelve students at twelve desks. The other students didn’t leave, however. They peered in as many windows as they could. Each classroom had hallway windows placed at an adult’s eye level, closer to the ceilings. This height disadvantage didn’t faze them, however, as they took turns and lifted their friends to see, or took their initiative and pulled themselves up to hang, watch, and shout. The halls echoed. I thought they might go home shortly if I waited them out, but they did not. Numerous times, I yelled, “Go home!” But interruptions and yelling made whatever teaching I had planned not possible. “You kids have to go home!” But they didn’t understand a word I said, and I didn’t know how to say it in Korean. “I’m trying to teach! You kids have to go!” I closed the windows, but they merely opened them again.

This intense curiosity was irritatingly constant during Maher’s entire stay in Busan, for as a white man, he was freak each time he appeared in public.

Maher recounts another instance:

Our night began with a Korean man who was driving past on his motorcycle. When he saw two white people like myself and Caden standing at this stand and eating Korean food, he turned his head to stare. A few pedestrians were almost hit by him, but it didn’t faze him. He then parked the bike in front of us, threw his legs over one side towards us, and quietly sat on the bike and watched us. We were like escaped zoo animals who had somehow amazingly learned to eat human food. He didn’t budge, and he didn’t feel an ounce of shame by staring as if we were a TV set. He seemed in awe that these non-Asian people existed in physical form on the streets of Pusan.

It wasn’t all bad. A stranger shook Maher’s hand and said, “USA #1,” then, “Welcome to Korea.” Seeing Maher and his friends on the street, a high school girl gave all six of them flowers, starting with the white men, then the white women, with the odd Korean in Maher’s group the last to get one, and only because the girl was prodded.

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The old couple who ran Happy Mart always said to Maher, “I love you,” each time he entered their store. A stranger would spend up to 20 minutes to help Maher find an address, or even give Maher his own umbrella, and go without one in the rain.

Though Maher wanted nothing better than to blend in, it wasn’t going to happen because he looked different and couldn’t speak Korean. He wasn’t just from elsewhere, but clearly a transient, waiting for his next plane. In America, too, he had always been anxious to move on, and most intensely from Michigan, his home state, for it represented the ultimate confinement, and not just to a place, but family and history, of any kind. Maher’s Michigan was flattened and had no horizon. As a young man, Maher wanted freedom from it all.

Though Busan is much more cosmopolitan in 2020, foreigners still stand out. In an article from just a month ago, Busan resident Chris Tharpe talks about how he’s treated at Yeonil Market, “Minhee sends me there because the local vendors always give me the white man hook up. We figured out early on that, not only do I enjoy better service, but I often receive 10–20% more of any product than she does. Sure, it’s racism, but the good kind.”

Fluent in Korean, with a Korean wife and having lived in Yeonsan-4-dong for five years, Tharpe has become just a regular neighborhood guy, “most familiar faces bow or greet me out loud as I make my way through the narrow streets on my daily rounds, especially when I’ve got my dogs on leash, which often produce big grins.”

On a recent birthday, a drunk Tharpe fell backwards into his neighbors’ glass door and shattered it. Unhurt, Tharpe made it home, only to pass out, so he and his wife could only go over to apologize the next day, “When she explained what happened, the old couple just shook their heads and laughed, as if this is to be expected on a man’s birthday. We of course offered to pay for the new glass door front, which I assumed would require a big wad of cash. The couple, however, elected to go with the one they had before, a basic, plastic composite that only set us back around 30 bucks.”

Sounds very familiar and old school to me, somewhat like the South Philly I used to live in, which is also disappearing. South Philly also has a wet market, by the way, one of the last in the USA, but there must be thousands in South Korea. All thriving, each one is the liveliest part of its neighborhood.

The sterile, skyscraping condos of South Korea are made more tolerable because traditional wet markets are nearby. To a lesser degree, hawker centers serve the same function in Singapore.

Old school, you rub against each other more, buy each other beer, lend money that often isn’t paid back, let a down-and-out buddy sleep on your ratty couch, threaten your best friend with a pool stick or put a few bucks in a jar at your local tavern for someone’s medical emergency. Whatever the aggravations, though, you’re also nourished by this sweet and sour social soup, or you wouldn’t be swimming in it.

More people each day would rather be left alone, however, so they can become even more intimate with their gadgets. At my Busan guesthouse, there’s young man who’s nearly always down in the basement kitchen, playing video games on his laptop. From his fluent English and accent, I’m guessing he’s a Korean-American. Since he’s always engaged with shooting the enemy in some desert setting, we haven’t talked. Several times, I’ve found him sleeping at his table at 4 or 5 in the morning.

Taking the subway in Seoul, Daegu and Busan, I often hear no conversations, because everyone is transfixed by his cellphone, although the very old are more likely to be liberated from the tiny screen. Like everywhere else on earth, Koreans have become more isolated than ever.

In his book, Maher describes an entirely different world:

Once on the bus, there wasn’t anywhere to sit. I had my bag in one hand and my pen and paper in another. Suddenly, I felt a pull on my bag. “Hey,” I yelled. A woman pulled my bag out of my hand and sat it on her lap.

“Korean culture,” Louie explained. “If you are standing, and you have a bag, it is second-nature for a sitting person to grab it from you, and place it on their lap.”

Another observation:

Whenever I saw Koreans carrying large items up the steep steps, complete strangers would grab the other end and help them take their bags up the stairs. Once they reached the top of the stairs, the stranger would depart without saying a word. A few years later when I moved to Seoul, it seemed to have disappeared.

So much has disappeared everywhere, and that’s why every city, town and village needs its own literature to record what’s most unique about it, but that’s exactly what we don’t have right now, for writers everywhere are either ignored or not up to the task of authoritatively and passionately capturing the local.

In art, you have the 17th century Dutch painters of everyday scenes. A rising middle class created a huge demand for pictures, and they wanted depictions of the ordinary, for they had “a deep love of life and interest in one’s environment,” to quote Johan Huizinga. So there you have it. Without this deep love of life and interest in one’s environment, everything fades away, flakes off, crumbles and stinks.

Though buxom females are way overrepresented, and muddy field hands or grunting dock workers are rarely seen, these genre paintings still provide posterity with an incredibly rich portrait of Dutch society from 400 years ago, so that it’s not just more alive than all others from its time, but perhaps even ours. Jacks and Jills have never been more masterfully loved.

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In literature, fictional works of a certain bent have also accomplished this, and in English, we can cite Sherwood Anderson’s Winesburg, Ohio (which really describes Clyde, Ohio), James Joyce’s Dubliners, Willa Cather’s Great Plains trilogy and Annie Proulx’ Close Range (about rural Wyoming). Please do augment this list, for everyone’s enlightenment.

Since I’m in Korea, I’m reading about Korea, but of course, as an English reader, I only have access to a tiny portion of writing about this place. Still, it’s not nothing, for every effort to understand the past can only enrich the present.

Experiencing present day Korea, it’s hard to believe it was once the Hermit Kingdom. Now, even small towns have English or white models on shop signs and advertisements. Just over a century ago, few Koreans had ever seen a foreigner.

Memories barely flicker in the corners of our alcohol drenched, drug addled and TV numbed minds, Barbra, and that’s we must work much harder to remember, even if it’s too painful, for we can’t simply choose to forget, the way we were. I love you, Barbra.

Let’s close with a fascinating passage from Isabella Bishop. From 1894 to 1897, she made four visits to Korea, just as the country was opening up, and this is how she was received at a village inn:

My room had three paper doors. The unwalled space at once filled up with a crowd of men, women, and children. All the paper was torn off the doors, and a crowd of dirty Mongolian faces took its place. I hung up cambric curtains, but long sticks were produced and my curtains were poked into the middle of the room. The crowd broke in the doors, and filled the small space not occupied by myself and my gear. The women and children sat on my bed in heaps, examined my clothing, took out my hairpins and pulled down my hair, took off my slippers, drew my sleeves up to the elbow and pinched my arms to see if they were of the same flesh and blood as their own; they investigated my few possessions minutely, trying on my hat and gloves, and after being turned out by Wong three times, returned in fuller force […] The pushing and crushing, the odious familiarity, the babel of voices, and the odors of dirty clothing in a temperature of 80°, were intolerable.

But Bishop tolerated it, and we thank her, for leaving us so many memorable sketches of the way we were, just yesterday, so tell me, would we? Could we? Let’s dig and find out.

Linh Dinh’s latest book is Postcards from the End of America. He maintains a regularly updated photo blog.

 
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  1. Biff says:

    I love you, Barbra.

    That two bit tramp who had the most succulent hooters back in the day said she was going to move out of the U.S. if George W got re-elected in 2004. Yet, the Malibu still suffers.

  2. Dumbo says:

    While the Jews are liars and fabulists, the Germans did kill a lot of Jews, of course not close to the famous six million. Stories about children might be fantasy as most of Eli Weasel’s book, but thousands of Jewish children died in the ghettos etc.

    The Russians took revenge on them by raping thousands of women.

    Of course, the Jews also could and can still be quite barbaric when bombing Palestinian children.

    And the so-civilized Japanese killed, raped and tortured millions of Koreans and Chinese.

    And the “good guys” Brits and Americans bombed 100,000 civilians in Dresden.

    The Americans are still bombing whatever they can in the Middle East.

    And so it goes.

    • Replies: @Rev. Spooner
    , @Wally
  3. History is a set of lies agreed upon. Vote for Pedro. –Napoleon Dynamite

  4. anon[185] • Disclaimer says:

    The weakest-link rule applies: this one belongs in the Moon Landing Hoax Articles cellar.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
  5. “The Way We Were.” Thanks for this, Linh, I really think about the way my Center St. Taylor Borough neighborhood was.

    Was beauriful, different, gone. Had block parties, no licked doors. Thank you, Linh.

  6. @Biff

    Zappa was an atrocious musician and songwriter, good at cornering the spotlight but he was a great defender of free speech.

  7. @Biff

    Strisend looks good to those who love goats. If I could breed humans, I would mate Philip Roth with her.

  8. @Dumbo

    Its all going to be taken care of. After this Covid 19 affair, everything will be better managed and your sensibilities will never be offended. Disease, death, genocide and bloodshed will not be like a Korean wet market but delicately managed, have a little patience.

  9. peterike says:

    Please do augment this list, for everyone’s enlightenment.

    Everything by George Gissing for life in 19th century England (Dickens without the schmaltz).

    James Fenimore Cooper’s Satanstoe for a depiction of New York City and environs in the 18th century. Fascinating.

    Giants in the Earth: A Saga of the Prairie by Ole Edvart Rolvaag for the lives of Nordic immigrant pioneers on the American plains.

    A Tree Grows in Brooklyn and other novels by Betty Smith for tenement life in New York City.

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  10. @anon

    Yeah. Here’s the real skinny. The photos they took when they were really on the moon weren’t very good. So they faked some to make them look better. Faked photos don’t mean a faked moon landing.

    • Agree: Ron Unz
  11. The Discovery of France.

  12. Linh Dinh quoting Grossman: “This creature specialized in the killing of children. Evidently endowed with unusual strength, it would suddenly snatch a child out of the crowd, swing him or her about like a cudgel and then either smash their head against the ground or simply tear them in half. ”

    Seems entirely possible to me. In fact, the Roman historian Suetonius says that Caligula’s daughter was killed in a similar way to the above, by bashing her brains out against a wall. People have been doing this sort of thing to their own offspring, and other peoples’, forever. But tear them in half? It depends on the strength of the man, and what is meant by “in half”. Horizontally, across the abdomen, or vertically? Certainly, it wouldn’t be impossible for a man to do the former, particularly if the child in question was very small or frail. Vertically would be more difficult, but an arm or a leg could be pulled off by a strong man with relative ease. In that case, “in half” might be an exaggeration, but excusable under poetic license.

    His innocence is what is charming (and disgusting) about LD’s writing. He has such a cheerful, hopeful view of human nature he can’t conceive of the brutal reality, which I suspect he’s somehow never encountered. Homo lupus homini — man is a wolf to man. I read his stuff with a horrified fascination, like driving past a car wreck. I keep wondering when some rando is going to wander up and punch him in the face for no reason at all. Or when some badge nigger at a border crossing is going to give him a cavity search, just for fun. But it never happens! No, it’s always all rainbows and unicorns in LD’s world. People love hearing about fictional realities, of course, and some authors ride that to success. Religions are founded on it. Thus, fiction shapes the collective consciousness.

    • Agree: commandor, Adûnâi
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    , @Dumbo
  13. Anon[375] • Disclaimer says:

    Dangerfield lives in Cambodia, and he says it is a really nice ethnostate. He says he watches TV every day, and it is basically just Cambodian people and Cambodian culture. Lots of references to their way of practicing Buddhism. He says the people seem very happy and energetic, far more so than the English.

    I wouldn’t be too worried about globalisation in the East. Maybe Japan is getting itself in trouble. A few Asian-looking white models is not too bad, not nearly as bad as what we whites put up with. Even in Finland you can’t go to a mall without imbibing images of white women in the arms of black men.

    I imagine in any ethnostate, there will always be some people fascinated by foreigners. In The Secret Garden, the house servant had hoped that Mary Lennox would be “black” (a.k.a. Indian) because she had never seen a “black” person before and found it fascinating to talk to a foreigner.

    Eventually even I get a bit bored with the same old stuff, and I am an ethnat.

    So I wouldn’t read too much into the fact that there are some people on the street who did some nice things for whites back in the 90’s (apparently this has changed a LOT since then, as seen with the anti-white and anti-American statements of PSY). They are being nice to the foreigner; there will always be people who want to be “welcoming” to foreigners. The west has a lot of these people, too many. The store-keepers are probably also expecting the foreigner to be loaded, and probably are hoping to get a lot of business from it.

    Finally, whites are not the sorts of people to take advantage of the kindness of these people, at least not at any large scale. So we won’t be flooding Korea with immigrants in the way that our countries are flooded. Korea will stay Korea. Cambodia will stay Cambodia.

    The same can not be said about our countries.

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  14. Truth says:
    @obwandiyag

    So it is unreasonable to conclude that faked photos of an expedition are an indication of a faked expedition?

    • Replies: @Hamlet's Ghost
  15. From the moment I was born, I’ve wanted to write a 20,000-word tribute to Barbra Streisand

    Great opening, but it begs the question, Why?

    Maher’s Michigan was flattened and had no horizon. As a young man, Maher wanted freedom from it all.

    Michigan, land of terminal moraine. The best thing coming out of Michigan is I-95.

    The sterile, skyscraping condos of South Korea …

    … make Singapore look like it has soul.

    • Replies: @veloman
  16. veloman says:
    @The Alarmist

    Do you mean I-75 or I-94. I-95 isn’t near Michigan.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  17. @obwandiyag

    I dunno; I found the “fake moon landing” article, if nothing else, thought-provoking–which, apparently, is the POINT of this website.

    Also, since recently coming to the conclusion that everything I was ever taught in school or read in history books or “news” was LIES, well, in my case, the jury’s out. Why should I believe ANYTHING these liars have written, when 95 percent of that shit is proven lies? WMDs? Golf of Tonkin? WWII? Skripals? Etc.? Etc.? Etc.? Most of the crap I learned was before I was 25. The Kuwaiti ambassador’s daughter, Nadira? The “nurse”?

    Trayvon? OPCW? Russiagate? Christ, I was a fool.

    What makes the moon landing especially true?

    I’d LIKE to believe we actually landed on the moon (I WATCHED it on t.v. when I was five), but at this point, I. JUST. CAN’T. BELIEVE. ANYTHING! So, my healthy sense of skepticism is on hyper-alert. For EVERYTHING.

    If the “news” reported the sky was blue, man, I’d look outside.

    This all has dumped my world-view upside-down, and I am unsure of ALL my prior leanings/thoughts/convictions. It has been an incredibly difficult wake-up even though I was somewhat prepared for it by a very cynical father, but even he, at this time, would think I need to remove my tinfoil hat. I would counter that I might need more layers of tinfoil to deflect all the bullshit.

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  18. Patriot says:

    During my travels, I’ve been surrounded by curious nationals, and have had “native people” poke my skin, touch my belongings, or feel my hair or beard. No problem. We all laughed. I enjoyed the experience.

    Compare that to the hundred articles in the past 20 years by People of Color angrily shriking because some curious White child touched their hair. In America, POC are trained and encouraged to be permanently aggrived over any small imagined insult. Microaggressions!

    Another example was a year ago when American POC threw a giant hissy fit about a (NY?) art museum allowing visitors to put on kimonos — supposedly a cultural appropiation. I was in Kyoto Japan at the time, a lovely city that ENCOURAGES foreigners to rent/buy kimonos and walk around the city. One day a gaggle of old Japanese ladies surrounded my 2 daughters on the street and worked feverishly for 15 min to correctly adjust their kimonos. Not a word of English, but lots of bowing, laughing and kind smiles and pats. This kind gesture is a favorite memory of our family’s visit to Japan, but when compared to the protest in NY, it illistrates the lying, bankrupt pathology of the American Left.

  19. Saggy says: • Website
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    His innocence is what is charming (and disgusting) about LD’s writing. He has such a cheerful, hopeful view of human nature he can’t conceive of the brutal reality,

    You must be a complete fool. The ‘tearing children in half’ is a standard trope in the holohoax, here is quote from Wiernik’s book …http://www.zchor.org/treblink/wiernik.htm

    One of the Germans, a man named Sepp, was a vile and savage beast, who took special delight in torturing children. When he pushed women around and they begged him to stop because they had children with them, he would frequently snatch a child from the woman’s arms and either tear the child in half or grab it by the legs, smash its head against a wall and throw the body away. Such incidents were by no means isolated. Tragic scenes of this kind occurred all the time.

    Great Scott, that is the quote from the online book.

    This is the quote from the physical text:

    pg. 19
    A German named Zopf was a vile a savage beast, who took special delight in abusing children. When he pushed women around and they begged him to desist because of the children, he frequently snatched a child out of a woman’s arms and tore it in half

    This book is full of absurdities, so idiotic that I actually bought a copy as a collector’s item.

    It was, btw, one of the most quoted ‘first-hand’ references in Raoul Hilberg’s definitive ‘The Destruction of Euroopean Jewry’

    I made a list of about 25, here are some more of my favorites ….

    pg. 14
    One of them, Ivan, was tall, had and gentle eyes, but was, nevertheless, a sadist. He often attacked us while we worked and nailed our ears to the wall

    pg 29
    The Germans stood around with satanic smiles on their faces, radiating satisfaction over their foul deeds. They drank toasts with choice liquors, ate, caroused, and enjoyed themselves around the warm fire. Thus, even after death the Jew was of some use … the heat came from the burning bodies of Jews. The German fiends stood warming themselves, drinking, eating and singing.

    pg 34
    However ‘freedom or death’ was our motto. In the meantime I completed the construction of the blockhouse. To celebrate the occasion, the ‘Hauptsturmfuehrer’ treated us to rum and sausage.

    The Germans stood around with satanic smiles on their faces, radiating satisfaction over their foul deeds. They drank toasts with choice liquors, ate, caroused, and enjoyed themselves around the warm fire. Thus, even after death the Jew was of some use … the heat came from the burning bodies of Jews. The German fiends stood warming themselves, drinking, eating and singing.”

  20. Anonymous[341] • Disclaimer says:

    Hello, Linh,
    I’m a Goodreads librarian and thought I’d let you know that I have linked your blog “Postcards” to your Goodreads author’s page as well as added your biographical blurb from your blog to your Goodreads page.
    If you don’t want this, let me know and I will remove them.
    Regards,
    W

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  21. TheBoom says:

    Christopher G. Moore’s early Vinnie Calvino novels do a good job capturing Bangkok from 1990 onward.

    You can compare 1990 to 1950s Bangkok by reading Jack Reynolds’ A Woman of Bangkok which was published in that decade. Those two periods in some ways have more in common than they do with modern central Bangkok

  22. swamped says:

    “From the moment I was born, I’ve wanted to write a 20,000-word tribute to Barbra Streisand, but this is not it, unfortunately. I’m still not ready. Instead, I want to talk about how we routinely distort, embellish or simply erase much the past, so what’s preserved and presented is not so embarrassing”…instead? that’s actually a very appropriate segue to talk about – if not give tribute – to bulbous Barbara. Seems Babs is a big fan of Israel & has performed there frequently, no doubt in tribute to BDS. She was even special pal’s with Shimon Peres, longtime Israeli pol who, just like Kissinger & Obama, was such a deserving winner of a Nobel Peace Prize, in ’94. A few years later the Nobel Committee publicly expressed regrets that Peres’s Nobel couldn’t be recalled because of his shameful human rights record afterwards. But that didn’t seem to trouble Barbie at all. Certainly, no country routinely ‘distorts, embellishes & erases’ the past like the Jewish State; ever since it’s founding myth of ‘a land without a people, for a people without a land’!
    In a junket to her promised land not long ago, yeshiva-schooled Streisand gushed:
    “I realize it’s not easy to fully grasp the dynamics of what happens in a foreign land. Israel and the United States have much in common: Two great and noble countries, each with problems of course, but always striving to shine as a beacon of hope.” That’s the way they were (& are) to Barbrat anyway. And now let’s all stand as she leads us in a stirring rendition of the Hativka!

  23. Tony says:

    You should know that the koreans consider the vietnamese an inferior race.

  24. Linh Dinh says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    Hi W,

    Thanks for making the link and adding the bio. Much appreciated!

    Linh

  25. @Truth

    No, not really. The famous photo of the flag raising at Iwo Jima was taken after the original raising was considered not dramatic enough. So they got a bigger flag and made sure the cameras were in the perfect spot to record the event, second take.

    The battle of Iwo Jima was very real regardless.

    • Replies: @Truth
  26. @Anon

    It would never occur to our host to describe Cambodians as energetic.

  27. Saggy: “You must be a complete fool. The ‘tearing children in half’ is a standard trope in the holohoax, here is quote from Wiernik’s book ”

    And you must be an utter weakling if you don’t understand that this would be possible for a strong man to do. I myself can pick up a barbell weighing nearly 400 lbs., and the world record for a deadlift, recently set, is well over 1000 lbs. Could a child’s body withstand these kinds of forces? I don’t think so.

    Now, did it happen just as these Jews claim? That’s another question entirely. They do tend to bring violent behavior out in people.

    • Replies: @Saggy
  28. Try as I might, I cannot believe the veracity of the moon landing(s) after having read Dave McGowan’s ‘Wagging The Moon Doggy’ at least three times over the years. McGowan recently passed on and his daughter continued his mini opus on her own site.

    His article is a perfect deconstruction of the supposed landing(s) using NASA’s own website in very many instances. It is heavy on humour and very readable though many friends of mine with whom I have had discussions regarding the moon landings never seem to visit the site after promising to do so for further discussion. Even my most literate friends are degenerating to watching yootoobe videos of some mo-mo yakking about a serious topic instead of doing serious reading. Hey-ho.

    BTW, to the idiot who believes that some Notsee monster could tear a child apart, why don’t you try simulating that with a whole uncooked chicken? Report back on how easy the wings or legs came off. Then imagine doing that to a 50lb gobbler, un-plucked.

    Cheers-

    • Replies: @Ahem
  29. Franz says:

    every city, town and village needs its own literature to record what’s most unique about it, but that’s exactly what we don’t have right now

    Sanity like that happens only when all tribes get their holy land from their very own one true god. It’s not here yet, but it’s really getting close.

    To add to the local/region writer’s list, I nominate:

    Work, for the night is coming by Jared Carter. Came in around 1980, still writes, a bit grim but real. These poems are located in the fictional home of Mississinewa County in Indiana, the poet’s home state.

    Also:

    The hocus-pocus of the universe bu Laura Gilpin. Small town hopes, dreams, frustrations. A bit hard to find, it was Gilpin’s first and only poetry book, and she died in 2007. But if you chance on any of her poems you’ll see why she won the Walt Whitman Poetry award.

  30. @veloman

    My bad … I meant I-75 … must have had Jersey on my mind 😉

  31. “for writers everywhere are either ignored or not up to the task of authoritatively and passionately capturing the local.”
    We all know that behind this assertion lies the increasing morbidity of the “local”. Globalism is slowly filtering out local, unique elements. Flattening the curve, as it were…. And, let’s recall, our Elites are not local — they are deracinated cosmopolitans, whatever they say to the contrary.
    Naturally, it’s a work in progress.
    The other observation in LD’s quote is the failure of writers: ie they are ignored or lack authority & passion.
    Neoliberalism & globalism can’t be said to encourage real art. Art by its nature may tend towards independence, to question, to disturb & upset. We all know how open the PC are to being questioned or disturbed….
    No coincidence that modern culture is hardly conducive to Art, let alone great Art.
    Or perhaps, we have simply exhausted many artistic forms?
    Many people believe that the diverse types of music placed under the rubic of “rock ‘n roll” has simply run its course — that it has exhausted it’s palate
    of colors, if you will.
    As usual LD has written a colorful & thought provoking piece.

  32. I’m in the middle of reading “Churchill’s War” by David Irving. Found it online for free. Search WSCv1. It is destroying my illusions about Churchill. I’m going to follow it up with “Hitler’s War”. I have a sneaking suspicion it will have the same effect there.
    Thanks for the commentary, Linh.

    • Replies: @Adûnâi
  33. Saggy says: • Website
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Could a child’s body withstand these kinds of forces? I don’t think so.

    Torn “in half”? Complete idiocy. Has it ever happened in recorded history? Beyond that, look at the ‘evidence’ as cited in my post. If you believe it happened because of that you’re an idiot twice over. Here’s one from Wiesel’s ‘Night’, the most read book on the hoax, …

    Babies were thrown into the air and the machine gunners used them as targets.

    Possible? No. But you believe it, right? The Jews are absolutely shameless in telling absurd prima facie lies, and publishing them widely, and fools like you defend them. Perhaps …..

  34. Adûnâi says:
    @Jim Richard

    > “I’m going to follow it up with “Hitler’s War”.”

    Feel free to check out my comment with an excerpt from “Lying about Hitler” – a book by Richard Evans that debunks a lot of David Irving’s theses.

    https://www.unz.com/proberts/churchills-war-the-real-history-of-world-war-ii/#comment-3856498

    • Replies: @Saggy
  35. Saggy says: • Website
    @Adûnâi

    I’d say the book to read is Buchanan’s “Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary War’ ….. as a tie-breaker …

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/ALp2GkpcuzZi/

    • Replies: @JImbobla
  36. Liam O’Flaherty’s short stories, Linh Dinh. Reading you over the years(since Counterpunch before it was completely co-opted) you’ve a similar eye for the details, absurdities, cruelty and humanity of this stupid life. Get a copy of one of his books titled, I Went To Russia, if you can for a chuckle or two. He’s out of fashion now because he’s not nearly as ‘woke’ as they’d like “I was born on a storm-swept rock and hate the soft growth of sun-baked lands where there is no frost in men’s bones.”.

  37. Saggy: “Torn “in half”? Complete idiocy. Has it ever happened in recorded history?”

    I’m sure children have been dismembered by hand many times in history. I also think you and the other lamer up there who doubts that 400 to 1000 lbs. of force would be enough to tear a child’s limbs off are both a couple of weak sisters who have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to what is or isn’t possible with regard to physical strength. I begin to think maybe you’re a woman, Saggy. Why do you call yourself saggy, anyway? Are you describing the condition your tits and ass? Maybe they’d be less saggy if you put down the bag of Cheetos and hit the gym once in a while.

    Saggy: “Possible? No. But you believe it, right? ”

    Possible. Yes. Ever heard of skeet shooting?

    • Replies: @Saggy
  38. Saggy says: • Website
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    tear a child’s limbs off are both a couple of weak sisters

    You are a moron. Tearing off a limb was common practice in the middle ages, as in drawn and quartered. That’s not ‘torn in half’.

    Possible. Yes. Ever heard of skeet shooting?

    You are not a doctor, you’re a phony. Did ever hear of skeet shooting with a 15-20 lb. skeet using machine guns, you damned idiot.

  39. Saggy: ” That’s not ‘torn in half’.”

    As I said in my first post on this thread, “torn in half” could be poetic license. The quoted passage didn’t give any specifics about the exact weight of each part of the dismembered child, and even if it did, and they were exactly equal, someone like you would probably then start whining that the volumes were different.

    Saggy: “Did ever hear of skeet shooting with a 15-20 lb. skeet using machine guns, you damned idiot.”

    One can certainly toss an object weighing 15-20 lbs. into the air and shoot at it using any kind of firearm. Are you really so stupid as to think this is impossible?

    • Agree: Adûnâi
    • Replies: @Saggy
  40. Dumbo says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    No, it’s always all rainbows and unicorns in LD’s world.

    If Linh’s portrayals of the downtrodden are rainbows and unicorns…

    As Oscar Wilde quipped, “we are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.”

    Others like the doctor prefer to look at shit and at rodents biting each other.

    Never trust doctors, I say.

  41. Saggy says: • Website
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    As I said in my first post on this thread, “torn in half” could be poetic license.

    Idiotic. Give the evidence for it in WW II.

    One can certainly toss an object weighing 15-20 lbs. into the air and shoot at it using any kind of firearm.

    Again, idiotic. Give the evidence for it, preferably with a 20 lb baby and a machine gun.

    Give the evidence for it at anytime in history. I’ve already supplied you with Wiernik’s and Wiesel’s quotes. As I recall there is another instance of baby tearing in half that took place at a train station, and another of child shooting in a camp. So, there’s your start. Put your best case together. Or cease with this idiocy.

  42. JImbobla says:
    @Saggy

    Will check it out. Thanks

  43. @Saggy

    I saw a mule deer knocked completely in half, the dumb thing had tried leaping across traffic on route 17 which goes from the Santa Clara Valley to the coast. Yeah, the forces (deer vs. econobox car) may have been greater, but this was a friggin’ deer, maybe 150 lbs, encased in deer skin. Knocked right in half. I only saw it in a glimpse as I passed on my motorcycle, the hind end of the deer, the cop comforting the crying lady with a now-dented red econobox car.

    The midsection is a weak spot though, just the spine and the encasing skin, with some abdominal muscle and the linea alba, a strip of fascia opposing the spine, for strength. It’s a weak spot in tetrapods.

    I don’t find this story unbelievable at all.

    • Replies: @Pericles
  44. Dumbo: “If Linh’s portrayals of the downtrodden are rainbows and unicorns… ”

    Way to miss the point, Dumbo. (Aptly chosen nick, btw. Shows a great deal of self-insight.)

    “As Oscar Wilde quipped, “we are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.””

    That may be, but as Confucius said, “Man who walk in gutter looking at stars likely to get run over by passing car.”

    At first, I would’ve imagined that an author who was excommunicated from the literary world for thoughtcrimes would have a better understanding of human nature and reality. But some people never learn.

    • Agree: Adûnâi
  45. Saggy: ” Give the evidence for it in WW II.”

    As I said, whether it actually happened or not is an entirely different question. My remarks only addressed its possibility.

    Saggy: “As I recall there is another instance of baby tearing in half that took place at a train station …”

    You really think it would be impossible for a strong man to tear a child like this apart with his bare hands?

    • Replies: @Dumbo
    , @Saggy
  46. Wally says:
    @Dumbo

    obediently said:

    “While the Jews are liars and fabulists, the Germans did kill a lot of Jews, of course not close to the famous six million. Stories about children might be fantasy as most of Eli Weasel’s book, but thousands of Jewish children died in the ghettos etc.”

    – No they didn’t.

    – You nor anyone else has proof of a thoroughly debunked “holocaust-lite” position that you & those like you espouse due to your inability to deal with cognitive dissonance.

    – Simply stated, there is no more proof for “holocaust-lite” than there is for the equally absurd full blown “holocaust” narrative.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
  47. @Saggy

    Oh, Hell, I was riding in a car to Seattle once, and the Mac truck in front of us hit a deer. All that was left was chunks of meat and blood raining down on our car. 70 mph, Mac Truck.

    Doesn’t mean a GUY could rip a child limb from limb. Maybe one or two COULD, but how many overall Nazis could?

  48. Biff says:

    The latter half of the comments belong in a gore museum.

  49. Truth says:
    @Hamlet's Ghost

    Well that did happen on this planet.

  50. Dumbo says:
    @Wally

    Yes they did. I don’t usually reply to idiots, but here at Unz this is impossible. I also had to reply to the dumb doctor too.

    Idiots like you who think that the Nazis “dindu nuthin” are the other side of the coin of the holoco$t narrative and paradoxically help to perpetuate it. You’re probably a Jewish troll as well.

    Unless you think that the Nazis were “the most moral army in the world”, as a certain other children-bombing army now is proud of saying.

  51. Dumbo says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    The mere fact that you lose so much time arguing about the technical feasibility of tearing babies apart shows that you have serious mental problems. Doctor, heal thyself.

    • Agree: Commentator Mike, Saggy
    • Replies: @Linh Dinh
    , @Adûnâi
    , @Saggy
  52. Linh Dinh says: • Website
    @Dumbo

    Hi Dumbo,

    He thinks most of us are “miserable bastards” who should just die, and this is his constant fantasy about me, “I keep wondering when some rando is going to wander up and punch him in the face for no reason at all. Or when some badge nigger at a border crossing is going to give him a cavity search, just for fun.” He keeps wondering, mind you.

    Now, he insists on the possibility of a child being torn in half with bare hands, but notice how he changes a child, fully clothed and snatched from a crowd, to a naked newborn, who’s no longer being torn in half, but having his arms yanked out.

    This “doctor” is clearly a Swedenborgian hell dweller, for only a man in hell can confuse rabid hatred with wisdom.

    Linh

  53. Adûnâi says:
    @Dumbo

    > “The mere fact that you lose so much time arguing about the technical feasibility of tearing babies apart shows that you have serious mental problems. Doctor, heal thyself.”

    If this is the topic that will make Dr. Robert Morgan/spahn ranch to comment again, I’ll take it.

    I wish Chechar could see us now! His blog breeds infanticide ideation (“breeds”, haha).

    And they say 4chan likes… what’s the word? It’s called guroposting in Russian. Well, this is goreposting in text form! High-IQ. What’s the point of talking about politics without killing children in painful ways?

  54. Pericles says:
    @alex in San Jose AKA Digital Detroit

    Well, why not get together with Dr Robert Morgan and make a video of him tearing a deer apart along the midsection with his bare hands, preferably a live deer. That will shut up the doubters.

    • Replies: @Saggy
  55. Saggy says: • Website
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    As I said, whether it actually happened or not is an entirely different question. My remarks only addressed its possibility.

    BS. You wrote that LD was ‘disgusting’ because he did not believe this idiocy.

    His innocence is what is charming (and disgusting) about LD’s writing.

    I do believe it is impossible for a man to tear a child ‘in half’, and I do believe it is impossible to do skeet shooting with a machine gun and a 20 lb. baby.

    But without even a hint of real evidence that either event has actually occurred, I don’t see any way to settle the matter. And, given that all of the holohoax is a lie, I don’t see any real need.

  56. Saggy says: • Website
    @Dumbo

    Idiots like you who think that the Nazis “dindu nuthin”

    I’m one of the idiots who think the Nazis didn’t do anything. One reason is the role of Judge Konrad Morgen, Morgen testified at Nuremberg….

    I don’t want to have to reconstruct the entire argument … so I’ll cut and paste …

    However, in mid-1943, Himmler recalled Morgen to investigate and prosecute corruption in the concentration camp system, which had become rampant, as reflected in Himmler’s notorious Posen speeches.

    Morgen’s investigations began with Karl-Otto Koch, the commandant of Buchenwald and Majdanek, Koch’s wife Ilse Koch, sadistic SS officer Martin Sommer, and Buchenwald’s camp doctor Waldemar Hoven. Charges included theft, military insubordination, and murder.

    Koch was tried, convicted, and executed shortly before the end of the war. In post-war testimony, Morgen claimed the stories of Frau Koch’s fetish with lampshades made of human skin were merely a legend: he had personally searched Koch’s home near Buchenwald and found nothing of the kind. He later told the American journalist John Toland that he persisted in denying the story while being threatened with beatings and while actually being beaten twice by his Allied interrogators after the war.

    Part of Morgen’s testimony at Nuremberg, The Avalon Project : Nuremberg Trial Proceedings Vol. 20

    [MORE]

    HERR PELCKMANN: Why was a special power of attorney from the Reichsfuehrer necessary?

    MORGEN: For the guards of the concentration camps, the SS and Police courts were competent; that is, in each case the local court in whose district the concentration camp was located. For that reason, because of the limited jurisdiction of its judge, the court was not able to act outside its own district. In these investigations and their extensive ramifications it was important to be able to work in various districts. Besides that, it was necessary to use specialists in criminal investigation, in other words, the Criminal Police. The Criminal Police however could not carry on any investigation directly with the troops, and only by combining juridical and Criminal Police activities was it possible to clear this up, and for this purpose I was given this special power of attorney by the Reichsfuehrer.

    HERR PELCKMANN: Now, how extensive did these investigations become? You can be brief because the witness Reinecke answered this point in part.

    488

    7 Aug. 46

    MORGEN: I investigated Weimar-Buchenwald, Lublin, Auschwitz, Sachsenhausen, Oranienburg, Hertogenbosch, Krakow; Plaszow, Warsaw, and the Concentration Camp Dachau. And others were investigated after my time.

    HERR PELCKMANN: How many cases did you investigate? How many sentences were passed? How many death sentences?

    MORGEN: I investigated about 800 cases, that is, about 800 documents, and one document would affect several cases. About 200 were tried during my activity. Five concentration camp commanders were arrested by me personally. Two were shot after being tried.

    HERR PELCKMANN: You had them shot?

    MORGEN: Yes. Apart from the commanders, there were numerous other death sentences against Fuehrer and Unterfuehrer.

    HERR PELCKMANN: Did you have any opportunity of gaining personal insight into the conditions in concentration camps?

    MORGEN: Yes, because I had authority to visit concentration camps. Only a very few persons had this permission. Before beginning an investigation, I examined the concentration camp in question in all its details very closely, inspecting especially those arrangements which seemed particularly important to me. I visited them repeatedly and without notice. I was working mostly in Buchenwald itself for 8 months and have lived there. I was in Dachau for one or two months.

    HERR PELCKMANN: Since so many visitors to concentration camps say they were deceived, do you consider it possible that you, too, were a victim of such deceit?

    MORGEN: I have just pointed out that I was not a mere visitor to a concentration camp but I had settled down there for a long residence, I might almost say I established myself there. It is almost impossible to be deceived for such a long time. In addition, the commissions from the Reich Criminal Police Department worked under my instructions, and I placed them directly in the concentration camps themselves. I do not mean to say that in spite of these very intensive efforts I was able to learn of all the crimes, but I believe that there was no deception in regard to what I did learn.

    See also Another wrench in the Holocaust Myth, SS judge Konrad Morgen – https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=4421

    Now, it is your turn – what is the evidence for the killing of a single Jew in the camps for being a Jew? Ans: there is none whatsoever beyond the preposterous lies of the Jews, e.g. Zyklon, a commercial insecticide used all over Europe, and used in the camps to kill lice to prevent typhus, was instead used to kill Jews. It is absolutely preposterous.

    The link to Morgen’s Nuremberg testimony – https://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/08-07-46.asp – there’s lots more

    MORGEN: I am speaking of the beginning of my investigations in July 1943.

    HERR PELCKMANN: What crimes did you discover?

    MORGEN: Pardon me, I had not-may I continue?

    HERR PELCKMANN: Please, be more brief.

    MORGEN: The installations of the camp were in good order, especially the hospital. The camp authorities, under the Commander Diester, aimed at providing the prisoners with an existence worthy of human beings. They had regular mail service. They had a large camp library, even books in foreign languages. They had variety shows, motion pictures, sporting contests and even had a brothel. Nearly all the other concentration camps were similar to Buchenwald.

    PRESIDENT: What was it they even had?

    MORGEN: A brothel.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
  57. Dumbo says:
    @Saggy

    People were stripped of all their property, in many cases separated of their family, and then locked against their will, first in ghettos, then in concentration or forced labor camps. Not for any crime that they had committed, but mostly for being Jewish or for other identity reasons. If that sounds “nothing” to you…

    Many died of diseases or hunger. Others were shot. Not to mention what happened on the Russian front in places such as Ukraine.

    Of course, there might not have been “gas chambers” nor all the other delirious stories about “human lampshades”, there’s a lot of obfuscation and exaggeration, but even in Nazi propaganda material they are very clear about their intentions, both for Jews and for other considered “untermenschen” such as Slavs. Why would they write that if they didn’t mean it?

    (Ironically, regular POWs were much better treated).

    In any case, saying that the forced labour camps were actually some sort of holiday camp, with books and brothels, seems a very German thing to do. They may even have had them, too. Which doesn’t change things all that much.

    But the idea that Germans would be incapable of being systematically cruel seems weird to me, like thinking that because today’s Japanese are ordered and civilized, they could not possibly have tortured and killed thousands of Chinese in Nanking.

    Anyway, contrary to most here, I’m not much of a fan of Nazi Germany, nor even of contemporary Germany, which has a similar authoritarian strike, only in a different direction.

    • Replies: @Saggy
  58. Saggy says: • Website
    @Dumbo

    But the idea that Germans would be incapable of being systematically cruel seems weird to me, like thinking that because today’s Japanese are ordered and civilized, they could not possibly have tortured and killed thousands of Chinese in Nanking.

    OK, it seems weird to you. Does it seem weird to you that Americans are systematically cruel? It does seem weird to me, but there is some evidence from Viet Nam, and from Abu Graib.

    So, from that can I conclude that the US tortured shot and killed Japanese in the camps in CA? I don’t think it happened. I don’t think that a single Japanese person was killed in the CA camps for being Japanese. Now if there is some evidence otherwise, let’s see it It could have happened, but I would have to see some evidence to believe it. And I assume that if it happened it would have been prosecuted, to believe otherwise I’d need some evidence.

    We know, from Morgen’s career, that crime in the German camps was prosecuted.

    For the same reason I don’t think it happened in the German camps because all the evidence is to the contrary ! The Germans did their best to run the camps in as harmless a way as possible and all the actual evidence, discounting the endless lies of the Jews, supports that. Konrad Morgen’s career supports that.

    And you seem to think that the Jews were ‘guilty’ of nothing but being Jewish ….

    mostly for being Jewish or for other identity reasons.

    This video by Rabbi ben Porat will disabuse of that notion …. ‘Why Hitler Hated the Jews’

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/uKbrffKEyE3m/

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @Dumbo
  59. One book that gives a good description of China, Korea, and Japan at the turn of the Twentieth Century is Farmers of Forty Centuries by F.H. King. It is a book primarily about agriculture and the practices of the farmers of these countries, but it gives good detailed descriptions of the farmers and how crops were grown back then. http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/5350

  60. They used the classroom as a venue to teach and argue for their personal values or causes.

    Sounds like my high school.

  61. Saggy says: • Website
    @Pericles

    Even a 20 lb. dog would do, preferably already dead. The phony Dr. could do it on his own, and film it of course. That would settle the matter.

  62. Corvinus says:
    @Pissedoffalese

    “Also, since recently coming to the conclusion that everything I was ever taught in school or read in history books or “news” was LIES, well, in my case, the jury’s out. Why should I believe ANYTHING these liars have written, when 95 percent of that shit is proven lies?”

    The reality is you WANT to believe what you learned is a lie. In that manner, it is much easier to NOT think critically. Your reasoning is much like the author of this piece. Generally speaking, those who have a healthy self-esteem have no need to “distort, embellish or simply erase” the past; rather, they embrace their foibles and learn from their mistakes. And on occasion, we do seek not to preserve and present what was embarrassing us. It is an impulse, and it is universal among the human race, but it is reflective of a particular moment, and not necessarily due to a “routine”. Moreover, historians have not perpetually lied, nor do they employ “their own criteria for accepting documents and other data as valid”. Rather, the true historian strictly adheres to standards for research and scholarship as established by the field at large. Otherwise, employing that own subjective “rules of thumb” leads he/she to be subjective and slanted in their work. As a result, the best and most enlightening history is rigorous. Of course, there will always be contentious debate as to what the interpretations of facts mean, that goes with the territory of being a historian. Indeed, that is why we investigate. Although, I do find it fascinating how the Alt Right employs the same type of logic as the author–when their narrative undergoes scrutiny, defend it by peculiar type of force–the “Fake News” cudgel.

  63. Corvinus says:
    @Saggy

    “The Germans did their best to run the camps in as harmless a way as possible and all the actual evidence, discounting the endless lies of the Jews, supports that.”

    And therein lies your problem. The evidence supplied by historians by way of first-hand accounts of the Germans, Russians, and Jews demonstrate clearly the camps were other than “run as harmless as possible”. So, from YOUR perspective, their account is automatically referred to as “a lie”. See, there is then no need for you to have to honestly address proof to the contrary. All you need to do is label in that manner and move on. It is a display of intellectual sterility on your part.

    NOTICE that you also insist that your side has “actual evidence”. So anything contradicts your predetermined narrative is essentially and routinely discounted. I get it. If you were to admit that the Holocaust occurred, your entire world view would come crashing down. Meaning you have to distort, embellish, or simply erase much of the past that is personally uncomfortable to you, so what is preserved and presented is not so embarrassing.

    So here is an exercise. Please demonstrate with specific counter evidence how and why this firsthand account by a German soldier is “a lie” regarding treatment of Jews at Auschwitz.

    https://www.politico.eu/article/auschwitz-guard-germany-holocaust-history-world-war

    “This process [of selection] proceeded in a relatively orderly fashion but when it was over it was just like a fairground. There was a load of rubbish, and next to this rubbish were ill people, unable to walk, perhaps a child that had lost its mother, or perhaps during searching the train somebody had hidden — and these people were simply killed with a shot through the head. And the kind of way in which these people were treated brought me doubt and outrage. A child was simply pulled on the leg and thrown on a lorry … then when it cried like a sick chicken, they chucked it against the edge of the lorry. I couldn’t understand that an SS man would take a child and throw its head against the side of a lorry … or kill them by shooting them and then throw them on a lorry like a sack of wheat.”

    Groening, according to his story, was so filled by “doubt and outrage” that he went to his superior officer and told him: “It’s impossible, I can’t work here any more. If it is necessary to exterminate the Jews, then at least it should be done within a certain framework.” His superior officer calmly listened to Groening’s complaints, reminded him of the SS oath of allegiance he had sworn and said that he should “forget” any idea of leaving Auschwitz. But he also offered hope — of a kind. He told Groening that the “excesses” he saw that night were an “exception,” and that he himself agreed that members of the SS should not participate in such “sadistic” events. Documents confirm that Groening subsequently put in for a transfer to the front, which was refused. So he carried on working at Auschwitz.

  64. Saggy says: • Website
    @Corvinus

    Please demonstrate with specific counter evidence how and why this firsthand account by a German soldier is “a lie” regarding treatment of Jews at Auschwitz.

    where we read …..

    This process [of selection] proceeded in a relatively orderly fashion but when it was over it was just like a fairground. There was a load of rubbish, and next to this rubbish were ill people, unable to walk, perhaps a child that had lost its mother, or perhaps during searching the train somebody had hidden — and these people were simply killed with a shot through the head.

    This is prima facie absurd … so it is not serious … which means Corvinus is either a Jew, stupid, or just completely uninformed. There is no way to tell, but from the tone of the post probably a Jew.

    And there is extensive photographic evidence of the ‘selection procedure’ Auschwitz, let’s have a look … https://www.yadvashem.org/yv/en/exhibitions/album_auschwitz/index.asp

    The photos were taken at the end of May or beginning of June 1944, either by Ernst Hofmann or by Bernhard Walter, two SS men whose task was to take ID photos and fingerprints of the inmates ….. The photos show the arrival of Hungarian Jews from Carpatho-Ruthenia

    I think these were slaughtered en masse according to the hoax. Let’s see some of the pics …..

    Selection:Selected for slave labor:Selected for slave labor:The gore you’ve been waiting for – Last moments before the gas chambers ….

    • Replies: @Saggy
    , @Corvinus
    , @Truth
  65. Dumbo says:
    @Saggy

    The Germans did their best to run the camps in as harmless a way as possible and all the actual evidence, discounting the endless lies of the Jews, supports that.

    In Nazi propaganda, just as in this site’s comments, there is a constant droning that “Jews are evil parasites, we must destroy them and get rid of them”, and on the other hand, “We did nothing, we treated them the best we could, we never tried to harm them”. So which one is it?

    The mere fact that there were such concentration camps is already wrong, and, worse, it failed. Franco in Spain was able to stay in power for decades. Mussolini might have obtained the same if he had not entered the war. Isabella of Spain was able to expel the Jews and Moors from Spain without so much fanfare.

    I’m sorry, I don’t buy that the Nazis were misunderstood angels with a very humanistic outlook. Just look at their own propaganda material, at their own projects.

    This video by Rabbi ben Porat will disabuse of that notion …. ‘Why Hitler Hated the Jews’

    He might have reasons to hate the Jews, just as the Communists had reasons to hate the Tsar or the bourgeois. That doesn’t really justify whatever they did.

    Look, I’m not trying to defend the Jews or say they were innocent. They were expelled from lots of countries, so they were and are, as a group (despite individual brilliance), many times noxious. But I don’t admire Nazi Germany nor think that they were great good misunderstood guys. Perhaps because I am not German. It’s not my country.

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
  66. Saggy says: • Website
    @Saggy

    The fate of the Hungarian Jews according to Yad Vashem

    In May 1944 the deportation of Hungary’s Jews to Auschwitz began. In just eight weeks, some 424,000 Jews were deported. By the end of the Holocaust, some 565,000 Hungarian Jews had been murdered.

    Incidentally, … Yad Vashem’s Auschwitz Album is ….

    The Auschwitz Album is the only surviving visual evidence of the process leading to the mass murder at Auschwitz-Birkenau. I

    And, the German soldier’s account of the selection procedure at Auschwitz is nothing compared to arrival of the Jews at Treblinka, according to Wiernik …

    pg. 8
    We came into the Treblinka camp. Only on arriving did the horrible truth dawn on us. The camp yard was littered with corpses, some still in their clothes and some naked, their faces distorted with fright and awe, black and swollen, the eyes wide open, protruding tongues, skulls crushed, bodies mangled. And blood everywhere, the blood of our brothers and sisters, our fathers, and mothers.

  67. Corvinus says:
    @Saggy

    Exactly what I thought you were going to do. Rather than address the particular issue in front of you, what is your Pavlovian Dog response? Ad hominem. I am a “Jew, stupid, or just completely uninformed”. I get why you went that route–your entire worldview is being questioned. It makes you uncomfortable, so you lash out with an unsubstantiated charge. But that is in your playbook–label anyone who dares to challenge you with the unfounded claim that they are Jewish.

    You show us photographs and claim there was no slave labor and no gas chambers. Yet clearly the visuals are an indication at the very least of a FORCIBLE HERDING of a FREE PEOPLE from their domiciles to unfamiliar environs. The context of the photographs is IN THE MOMENT BEFORE Jews would be toiling as slave labor or Jews would be taking their last shower. Numerous eyewitness accounts verified these two activities took place at concentration camps.

    Of course, if a treasure trove of archival footage emerged demonstrating the depiction of Jewish slave labor or the execution of Jews by way of Zyklon gas, you and your ilk would automatically indicate this evidence was manipulated, doctored, and/or manufactured. It NEVER ends. Again, you have to distort, embellish, or simply erase much of the past that is personally uncomfortable to you, so what is preserved and presented is not so embarrassing.

    NOTICE how you went off on a tangent so you did not have to directly respond to a forthright request. So now please demonstrate with specific counter evidence how and why this firsthand account by a German soldier is “a lie” regarding treatment of Jews at Auschwitz. That means you have to clearly show that the account and testimony of Oskar Groening is absolutely false. Rather than send everyone on a wild goose chase, focus on your effort to answer this inquiry.

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
    • Replies: @Saggy
  68. Truth says:
    @Saggy

    Hey Bro, spelling was never my strong suit. What are the last four letters in “Ashkenazi?’

    • LOL: Republic
    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  69. Saggy says: • Website
    @Corvinus

    I get why you went that route–your entire worldview is being questioned.

    I went that route because to show that there is actual evidence and we don’t have to rely only on ‘testimony, by showing what the selection process at Auschwitz actually looked like, contradicting everything it the idiotic ‘testimony’ you quoted. And, I went that route to show you that there is actual photographic evidence of what went on in Auschwitz. There is lots more, in particular the ‘death books’, the Nazi records of the deaths of prisoners, they wrote and kept a death certificate for each prisoner that died. The Soviets captured the data and immediately ‘disappeared’ it, finally revealing it to the world after glasnost. Now you can buy the summary books on Amazon …There is more, the decoded German communications between Auschwitz and Berlin, the testimony of Morgen, Ursula Haverbeck discusses the newly revealed Auschwitz procedure manuals in one of her vids, and so on. Thus there is no mystery about what went on at Auschwitz. At the same time there are the endless lies of the Jews.

    what is your Pavlovian Dog response? Ad hominem. I am a “Jew, stupid, or just completely uninformed”.

    Was I wrong? Because the brainwashing is so com;plete in the west it is impossible to tell if you’re a Jew or just someone who is totally brainwashed, but .. because of your interest in the subject I’ll guess you are a Jew. No one else could tout the idiotic ‘testimony’ of Groening.

  70. Corvinus says:
    @Saggy

    “I went that route because to show that there is actual evidence and we don’t have to rely only on ‘testimony, by showing what the selection process at Auschwitz actually looked like…”

    We have first hand accounts, direct eyewitness testimony, and photographic evidence regarding the Holocaust. We know that Jews were taken against their will, put in ghettos, and then transported to concentration camps. You deny these conclusive facts because it makes you feel uncomfortable.

    “contradicting everything it the idiotic ‘testimony’ you quoted.”

    You are tasked to demonstrate how and why a Nazi soldier is lying about Jewish treatment by Germans at Auschwitz. What do you do? Patently avoid offering the requisite evidence to support the assertion.

    “Was I wrong?”

    Decidedly. I am Goy. Pure Goy.

    “Because the brainwashing is so com;plete in the west it is impossible to tell if you’re a Jew or just someone who is totally brainwashed, but .. because of your interest in the subject I’ll guess you are a Jew.”

    No brainwashing, just the deployment of logic and reasoning on my part.

    “No one else could tout the idiotic ‘testimony’ of Groening.”

    Prove how and why this testimony is “idiotic”. Prove how and why he is outright lying about what he witnessed. Stay focused on your task.

    • Replies: @Saggy
  71. @Saggy

    You never heard of false accounting? Even Germans get convicted for it. The ones who fail selection don’t even make it into the account books or the tattooing, and even those that do may not be recorded if they’re no longer useful as slave labour. Simple bookkeeping fraud, if it can even be called that.

  72. @Truth

    Ashkenazi = ZionNazi. Just another version of the same Nazi crap – make Israel supreme instead of make Germany supreme.

  73. Saggy says: • Website
    @Corvinus

    Prove how and why this testimony is “idiotic”. Prove how and why he is outright lying about what he witnessed.

    If you had the brains of a frog you’d know that I already disproved it before you even posted by reviewing the career and citing the testimony of Konrad Morgen, the Judge who prosecuted crime by the SS in the camps. The idea that the Nazi canp guards went around shooting people in the head for sport is 100% preposterous. Morgen tried Otto Koch, the commandant at Buchenwald, for his involvement in the deaths of 3 prisoners. Koch was convicted and executed. Read Morgens Nuremberg testimony I quoted in a previous post.

    Then I disproved it by showing actual pictures of the ‘selection” procedure at Auschwitz, which you also seem to have ignored.

    Then I quoted from Yad Vashem, the same site that had published the pictures, saying that the Hungarians had been executed en masse.

    The beauty of the holohoax is that they don’t give an damn if the contradict themselves, if they publish preposterous prima facie absurdities, like Wiesel’f book claiming that the Nazis used Jewish babies for skeet shooting, and that they killed the Jews by tossing them alive into burning pits, one for adults, and one for children.

    No brainwashing, just the deployment of logic and reasoning on my part.

    You’re either woefully deceived or lying.

  74. Corvinus says:

    Saying something is “100% preposterous” is not an argument. You have not proven anything except that you enjoy giving the run around. I get it–someone who challenges your narrative makes you uncomfortable. Konrad Morgen, the “selection procedure”, Yad Yashem…they have NOTHING to do with the testimony of Oskar Groening.

    The topic before you is this German soldier, NOTHING else. Prove how and why this testimony is “idiotic”. Prove how and why he is outright lying about what he witnessed. Stay focused on your task.

    • Replies: @Saggy
  75. Dumbo: “The mere fact that you lose so much time arguing about the technical feasibility of tearing babies apart shows that you have serious mental problems. Doctor, heal thyself.”

    Who says it’s lost time? I enjoy exposing your lies and hypocrisy, and LD’s and the others too. For me, it’s recreation.

    Let’s get something straight, the topic of whether a man could tear a baby in half was initially broached by LD, when he wrote, in a sneering dismissal of the idea, “At least no one is defending Jankiel Wiernik and Vasily Grossman for claiming that an SS man, Josef Hirtreiter, could tear a child in half with his bare hands.” And this from a prick who thinks of himself as compassionate! LOL. I really can’t get over this, and have been laughing about it all day. I can just imagine this posturing fuckwit telling some poor, sobbing Jewish woman that her baby couldn’t possibly have been murdered in this way. “Sorry, ma’am, but that’s impossible!” says Saint Linh Dinh the compassionate, turning his back on her and following it up with “Damn Jews! Always lying!” under his breath. Yes, what a model of compassion and “mental health” we have here! And his pal Dumbass, oops I mean Dumbo, also takes this attitude. So much for his “mental health” too.

    Of course, LD later goes on to complain:

    Now, he insists on the possibility of a child being torn in half with bare hands, but notice how he changes a child, fully clothed and snatched from a crowd, to a naked newborn, who’s no longer being torn in half, but having his arms yanked out.

    Maybe because English isn’t LD’s first language, he doesn’t understand that a newborn is a child too. And in fact, there’s no mention in the passage he quoted about the age of the child, or if it was fully clothed or not. This is just stuff he dreamed up. For all anyone knows, it could have been a newborn, or maybe a child not much older. Also, since nobody here (except possibly Saggy) is either stupid enough or has enough effrontery to claim that a strong man couldn’t tear apart the infant in the picture I posted, LD now has to fall back on the “That’s not in half!” cavil that I previously responded to above. Yes, as I said, if it happened at all, I doubt anyone weighed the dismembered parts to determine if they were equal. “Torn in half” could be excused as poetic license; excused, that is, IF one had an ounce of compassion in his so-called soul. But it looks like LD is short that ounce, despite all his pretension.

    Ironic, isn’t it? These hate-filled bastards denounce ME for lacking compassion. But I, of course, have already said that compassion is only an illusion, so I am not surprised at their hypocrisy. On the contrary, I thank them for the demonstration.

    • Agree: commandor
    • Replies: @Saggy
  76. @Corvinus

    Groening has paid dearly for telling this.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  77. nxradio says:

    Linh Dinh needs a new occupation. I didn’t get all the way thru it so I don’t know what the argument is about concerning the Nazi camps, etc.
    Just wanted to say that Linh Dinh might invest in some house-broken
    chickens that won’t poop all over his desk, and just have those chickens stomp around on his keyboard for 20 minutes and then put the delightful creatures back in their nest. Presto, he’ll have his next article all ready to post.

    This guy makes no sense whatever. He just rambles along with endless disjointed, disconnected pointless comments that don’t add up to thimble full of stale beer. Why this website or any website gives his useless rubbish a platform is beyond me….

  78. Saggy says: • Website
    @Corvinus

    Let’s have a look at what really happened, according to HBO ……. and see a little skin at the same time … ! …..


    • Replies: @Corvinus
  79. Saggy says: • Website
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    I enjoy exposing your lies and hypocrisy,

    The only thing you are exposing is what a perverse fool you are.

    since nobody here (except possibly Saggy) is either stupid enough or has enough effrontery to claim that a strong man couldn’t tear apart the infant in the picture I posted,

    Not ‘tear apart’ dumbo, tear in half. You can’t even say it, much less do it.

    • Replies: @Saggy
  80. Saggy says: • Website
    @Saggy

    There is a further point to be made …. and a quite remarkable one I think ….

    I have Wiernik’s text, and he writes ‘torn in half’ not ‘torn apart’ or ‘torn in pieces’. He could just as easily written ‘torn apart’, but he wanted to make the story perfectly absurd, so that no one in their right mind would believe it, so he wrote ‘torn in half’. Maybe the idea was that something that preposterous couldn’t be made up, so the absurdity in the already absurd context of the holohoax would make it more believable.

    I have Wiesel’s text, and he writes that the babies were ‘thrown into the air’ and the ‘machine gunners’ used them as ‘targets. He could have just as easily written that the ‘babies were shot’, but that is not absurd enough, so he could have written ‘babies were thrown into the air and shot’, that is pretty absurd, but he realized he could take it one step further and wrote that the babies were ‘thrown into the air’ and used as targets by ‘machine gunners’. Not a shred of evidence or corroboration, absolutely nothing supports this preposterous idiocy, yet our students in middle school are taught this as fact. This is more than lies, teaching preposterous lies as fact is a direct form of mind control. It is Orwellian.

  81. Corvinus says:
    @Saggy

    I’m not surprised that you are avoiding your task. I get it–someone who challenges your narrative makes you uncomfortable.

  82. Jim Smith says:

    The comment section seems to have devolved into an argument over holocaust revisionism. Let’s change the subject: Linh made the observation that certain Dutch paintings, “still provide posterity with an incredibly rich portrait of Dutch society from 400 years ago, so that it’s not just more alive than all others from its time, but perhaps even ours.” More recent efforts are cited in the literary form: “Sherwood Anderson’s Winesburg, Ohio (which really describes Clyde, Ohio), James Joyce’s Dubliners, Willa Cather’s Great Plains trilogy and Annie Proulx’ Close Range (about rural Wyoming). But then Linh gifts us a mandate! “Please do augment this list, for everyone’s enlightenment.” He suggested it; let’s do it! My offering is Main Street and Babbitt by Sinclair Lewis. Further, Cannery Row and Tortilla Flat by John Steinbeck.
    “Bums by Jack Kerouac qualify?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  83. Jim Smith says:

    Ahem: “But do On the Road and The Dharma Bums by Jack Kerouac quality?”

  84. @obwandiyag

    This assumption is about as ridiculous as the people who believe the moon landing was fake, but we really did go to the moon in secret! If the photos are shopped, why would you believe any of what the spacemasons sold you?

  85. Anonymous[341] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim Smith

    I’m glad you stepped forward. The comment sections are usually drivel, either dismaying or, sometimes, hilarious, but usually just boring.
    I agree with your selections and would add James T. Farrell’s Studs Lonigan trilogy, about an Irish-American growing up on the south side of Chicago during the Depression of the 1930s, Henry Miller’s Black Spring, especially his memories of growing up in Brooklyn, and for something completely different, Hamlin Garland’s Middle Border series about the harsh realities of farm life in the Midwest in the late 19th century. Main-Travelled Roads, a short-story collection, is a good place to start.
    There are many others, now mostly forgotten, from the days when ordinary people avidly read extraordinary novels.

  86. Ahem says:
    @Timur The Lame

    Are you not aware that most, if not every, lunar landing site has been photographed by moon orbiting satellites.

    Random footprints have been photographed meandering everywhere around the landing sites. Those lunar landers with vehicles also left wheel tracks wherever they went.

    When you have looked it up, using any search engine, you will have learned.

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