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Vinh Chau Chinese at the Seven Wonders Restaurant, Saigon, 2018
Vinh Chau Chinese at the Seven Wonders Restaurant, Saigon, 2018

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In the 17th century, the Manchus conquered China, causing thousands of defeated Chinese soldiers and their families to flee to Vietnam, then divided between north and south. The Nguyen Clan, rulers of the south, granted these Chinese land in nominal Cambodian territory, paving the way for Vietnam’s annexation of a third of Cambodia. This obscure history is just another example of how immigrants are used to serve rulers, and how de facto borders are often fluid, to be contested over.

In Bien Hoa, the competent and enterprising Chinese built a thriving port city that traded internationally, and for this achievement, their leader Chen Shangchuan [陳上川] was showered with accolades and honorifics. In the late 18th century, however, this Chinese city was looted then razed by Quang Trung, a rival to the Nguyen Clan. Thousands of Chinese were slaughtered.

In Bien Hoa, there is a modest shrine to Chen Shangchuan, but each Vietnamese town has a street named after Quang Trung, a brilliant general and king who instituted many key economic and social reforms. His butchery of innocent Chinese is but a footnote.

Through all the persecution, the Chinese are still doing well in Vietnam, thanks to their human capital. Never dwelling on historical injustices, they merely forge forward. Yesterday, I had coffee with Chan, a 64-year-old Chinese from Vinh Chau, a once miserable backwater on the coast. Visiting it in 1998, I had to endure a primitive ferry crossing plus miles of rocky road. Perched on a low chair in its main market, I had a regrettable bowl of soup.

Thirty years ago, Chan couldn’t afford his morning coffee. Now, he owns four houses and a 22-employee business that buys and sells used chains, cables and pulleys, “My son worked for a guy who did this, so that’s how we learnt the business. Now, we have clients from all over the country, even in Hanoi.”

“Why can’t they just buy their chains and cables up there?”

“We have the largest stock!” The mustachioed man smiled, “and the best prices. People trust us.”

Vietnam’s revival results from the economic reforms of Doi Moi. Once the state got out of the way, commerce blossomed, wealth was generated and abject destitution mostly disappeared.

Like most Chinese in Vietnam, Chan betrays an accent when speaking Vietnamese, and his usage of idioms can be slightly odd. Language bonds or repels in a continuum, and a Vietnamese can pick up immediately if you’re from the Mekong Delta, Saigon, Hue or Hanoi, etc.

A hands-on boss who’s not leery of getting his hands dirty, Chan’s at work by 7:30 each morning. “I can’t take a vacation. If I’m not here, my employees may pocket some of the receipts, you know, or neglect urgent orders.”

During the decade and a half after the Vietnam War, over a million people fled Vietnam by boat, but not Chan, “I had a friend who was a boat builder, so I could have escaped for free, but I didn’t go because of my aging father.”

To get on a boat, one normally had to pay eight gold taels, then risk capture, prison, hunger, thirst, sickness, storms, pirates and death, all in the hope of arriving in Thailand, Malaysia, Philippines, China or Hong Kong, yet even then, one may be repatriated, as many were.

Although wealthy now, Chan has only been outside Vietnam once, “I have a business associate in Cambodia. He kept saying, ‘You must come over!’ but I never went, so once, he just showed up and basically kidnapped me! I spent three days in Cambodia. It was fun.”

The café was on a street with an unusually wide sidewalk. We leaned back and watched people stream by. Since it was around 6:30AM, the temperature was pleasantly cool. Seeing a slow-moving funeral procession, Chan laughed, “Once in a wedding car, once in a hearse, then it’s over!”

I was about to joke that one can get in several wedding cars, then I remembered that Vietnam’s divorce rate is extremely low. Though many men frequent prostitutes or have mistresses, they don’t tend to dump their wives.

Though no longer living in Vinh Chau, Chan still owns land there. “I leave it fallow. It’s really not worth it to grow anything. The weather is too unpredictable. Before, you knew it would be dry for six months, rainy for six months, but now, it rains whenever it feels like. You stand a good chance of losing money by growing crops.” By owning land there, Chan is asserting he hasn’t abandoned his roots.

“What about shrimp farming? I hear that’s huge down there.”

“But they can all die. Shrimp farming is also very risky.”

“So what’s happening in Vinh Chau?”

“Almost nothing!”

“But I hear there’s a lot of development down there. It’s like a brand-new town!”

“That’s because of the money that’s being sent back by people like me. You must know your roots. If not for Vinh Chau, I wouldn’t be here. Although we’re no longer home, we stay in touch. If we hear, for example, that the temple needs to be fixed, we all chip in.”

Leaving Chan, I went to the Seven Wonders Restaurant to meet more Chinese from Vinh Chau. Once a week, about a dozen men and women meet to socialize and discuss what needs to be done back home. As the conversation was mostly in Teochew, I was out of the loop. Still, it was remarkable to witness such a sense of community from these successful business people.

Garish, the Seven Wonders flaunts bright concrete statues of Mickey Mouse, Minnie Mouse, Pluto and an Egyptian pharaoh. The cuisine is Cantonese, mostly.

If you ask a Vinh Chau Chinese how did his ancestors end up there, you’d only get vague answers, such as, “That’s where our boat land, more than hundred years ago.” One man said, “two, three hundred years ago.” And, “It was undeveloped land, so we just start to farm it and build houses.” Sort of like the Pilgrims.

“But weren’t people already there?” I asked.

“Yes, there were Cambodians, but there weren’t that many.”

Another man added, “And once we became more established and successful, we bought land from the Cambodians. That’s how our community grew.”

A young Cantonese raised in Cho Lon, Saigon’s Chinatown, told me his great-grandfather walked there all the way from Guangdong.

“Couldn’t he, ah, have gotten on a cart or something?”

Sen, “My people didn’t have any money! They were starving! In fact, when one of them died, the others had to hold him up and pretend he was still alive. They couldn’t bury him until dark.”

“Why?”

“If the other people saw a dead man, they would have eaten him! They were all starving!”

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After his dad abandoned the family, Sen’s mom became a whore, so he and his sister grew up desperate. Now, he’s a well-traveled yoga teacher, and his sister is married to a rich Jewish guy nearly twice her age in California. They roam the world to scuba dive.

At its peak in the 12th century, the Cambodian Empire occupied much of present day Thailand, half of Vietnam and all of Laos, then came eight centuries of decline that reached its nadir under Pol Pot, a man who combined secular Jewish messianism with atavistic Angkor yearnings.

The collision between East and West was greased by zealots pushing a bearded Jew, Jesus or Marx.

“Please, white man, can I endure this already taxing existence without any Jewish savior? Do I try to shove Buddha, Confucius or Laozi down your throat?”

“No, yellow man, you must choose one Jew or the other! Jewish is the only way! It’s universal brotherhood and all that, except in Israel!”

As smart and successful immigrants to be found in many countries, Chinese and Jews have often been compared, but there are many key differences between them. Unlike Jews, Chinese are not dominant in media, education, government or banking in their host countries. Native children are not taught to despise themselves for having wronged the Chinese, and Chinese don’t produce or host television or radio shows that mock the locals. There is no Chinese Howard Stern or Jerry Springer. Unlike Israel, the Chinese’ ancestral homeland’s survival is not dependent on the support of a heavily manipulated and indoctrinated client state.

Here, the main historical lesson is that China is a constant threat to encroach upon Vietnam, that Vietnam may be swallowed up entirely by China. Can you imagine American kids being taught that their nation’s biggest menace is not Putin, Islamic patsies or Mexican busboys, but the machinations of Israel?

Linh Dinh’s latest books are Postcards from the End of America (non-fiction) and A Mere Rica (poetry). He maintains a regularly updated photo blog.

 
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  1. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    After his dad abandoned the family, Sen’s mom became a whore, so he and his sister grew up desperate. Now, he’s a well-traveled yoga teacher, and his sister is married to a rich Jewish guy nearly twice her age in California. They roam the world to scuba dive.

    ROTFL. What a world.

    • Replies: @Joe Wong
  2. Truth says:

    Linhjo, no dog whistle. I’m proud of you.

    • Replies: @iffen
  3. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    As smart and successful immigrants to be found in many countries, Chinese and Jews have often been compared, but there are many key differences between them. Unlike Jews, Chinese are not dominant in media, education, government or banking in their host countries. Native children are not taught to despise themselves for having wronged the Chinese, and Chinese don’t produce or host television or radio shows that mock the locals.

    But Chinese love to mock other Chinese. I hear Chinese in Hong Kong are filled with contempt for Mainland Chinese and vice versa. I hear Taiwanese like to shi* on other Chinese.
    And Hong Kong cinema is full of people who like to mock everything, though mostly fellow Chinese.

    I think another key difference is Chinese in SE Asia didn’t have much competition. With the exception of Vietnamese who got some intelligence, Chinese could easily out-compete others in Indonesia, Philippines, Malaysia, and etc. If you’ve seen in ACT OF KILLING, it’s obvious that Indonesians are a bunch of moronic dodos. A Chinese kid in college from Indonesia told me what morons they are. A Indonesian maid had lots of kids. One went missing for a month and she realized the kid had been missing ONLY WHEN the kid reappeared again.

    Chinese don’t need to mock and belittle the locals since the locals do a good job of making a mockery of themselves all on their own.
    Also, you can’t use the cult of guilt on a people so moronic. Guilt requires some degree of conscience and ethics, and it’s just not there with the brown locals of SE Asia. Just look at the morons of ACT OF KILLING.

  4. Dan Hayes says:

    Hi Linh,

    Very glad to hear that you are hopefully safely and happily ensconced in Vietnam.

    Quoting my late father:

    1) The savage loves his native shore. (Appropriately enough he was quoting his fellow Irishman, James Orr, Bard of Ballycorry.)

    2) The Chinese are the Jews of the East.

    With regards to #1, welcome back to your native shore!

    With regards to #2, your essay is living proof!

    And looking forward to continuing reports from your “native shore”.

  5. “Here, the main historical lesson is that China is a constant threat to encroach upon Vietnam, that Vietnam may be swallowed up entirely by China. Can you imagine American kids being taught that their nation’s biggest menace is not Putin, Islamic patsies or Mexican busboys, but the machinations of Israel? ”
    ———————————————————————

    This is correct there are differences, but there are also several similarities. FOr example the Chinese have often been considered to be agents of a foreign power (China), and to be clannish, cheating and gouging and exploiting the local people- just like the Jew. Like the Jew, the Chinese have often been attacked physically – in Malaysia, in Indonesia, and in Vietnam – for their perceived ties to a foreign hegemon, or due to their affluence. In the US West, white mobs killed scores of Chinese whose hard work and acumen they resented, and it was said the hapless victims did not have “a CHinaman’s chance.”

    Like the Jew the Chinese have exercised economic power to punish their enemies, or buy them off. This happened in South Vietnam.

    In the 1950s the Chinese almost shut down SVN’s economy. when SVN ruler Ngo Dinh Diem turned up the heat on people he alleged had “dual loyalties.” He pushed measures requiring that all Chinese become Vietnamese citizens, barring them from some occupations, and demanded that the Viet language be taught in Chinese schools. A final decree ordered the dissolution of all 5 Chinese bangs, or regional groups that governed internal Chinese affairs- again perceived as a sort of potential fifth column enabling the Chinese to plot and consolidate power.

    Like the Jew the Chinese dominated key slices of the economy, and when threatened, the Chinese vigorously protested, and Taiwan weighed in to protest persecution of its overseas citizens. The Chinese retaliated also by withdrawing much of their money from banks causing a collapse in the local currency. The Chinese also hit the distribution system which they dominated bringing many commercial transactions to a standstill, and causing severe economic hardship. The US govt pressured both sides to come to an agreement and Diem was forced to eventually ease up on his persecution.

    Like the Jew, the Chinese also used widespread bribery, and behind the scenes lobbying to look after their interests. Unlke the JEw however who is visible in politics in the US, the CHinese prefer to keep a low public profile while they manipulate matters from behind the scenes. When the communist took over, Chinese luck ran out, as tens of thousands of Chinese “boat people” again suspected of dual loyalties were forced out- around a quarter of a million of them.

    And is Israel being this big existential threat to the US? No doubt Israeli boosters will say Israel or Jews are no worse than the Chinese or China, or Russia, or America in protecting their own interests. And they will say Israel has, while serving itself, also served Western interests in the region as well- as the Suez campaign of 1956 demonstrates, as well as various collaborations on the “War on Terror.” In domestic matters, the “neocon Jews” have served conservative interests well in terms of their in-depth intellectual attacks against various aspects of New Deal/Great Society liberalism.

    One curiosity- if Trump is supposed to be this great redemptive figure- making America great again, why does he seem so cosy with Israel, that threatening stronghold of Jewry? Why isn’t the great redeemer distancing himself from Israel so that America might breathe free?

    His daughter it is true is married to a very affluent Jew which raises questions as to who is tied in with who, and whether elite inbreeding and power, trumps US interests. Are the mystical hopes placed on Trump for redemption in some conservative quarters, just another shrewd manipulated control engineered by those tricky Jewz? Is today’s right itself being “played” by the manipulators of dual loyalties?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Malla
  6. “Chinese are not dominant in media, education, government or banking in their host countries.”

    Not true in Thailand that’s for sure.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @llloyd
  7. @Anon

    Using your criteria, then it could be said that white people have no conscience or ethics either, as well demonstrated by the mass slaughter of millions of Poles, Jews and others, as well as massacres of numerous Chinese when whites envied their hard work and prosperity. As far as Vietnam, the brown heads could certain not look to white “role models” for guidance. Said “role models” were busy bombing on a scale that was more than tonnages of WW2, and that killed hundreds of thousands of civilians. In fact official US documents (See Nick Turse’s books) show American government officials in some areas encouraging the mass destruction of hamlets and villages in order to generate more refugees who could then be “regrouped” to the “winning” side.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Bastian
  8. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I think another key difference is Chinese in SE Asia didn’t have much competition. With the exception of Vietnamese who got some intelligence,

    The Thais are at least as smart as the Vietnamese, and more pleasant too.

    Don’t forget the Indians. While most are pretty incompetent, there are a enough high flying exceptions like Ananda Krishnan and Tony Fernandes. The Sikhs are also solidly middle class although too few to challenge the Chinese.

  9. @Anon

    “But Chinese love to mock other Chinese.”
    Self-hating Chinese? Ha they have much to learn about destroying outgroups. I bet they don’t even teach their toddlers about Unit 731!

    If you need your circumcision tightened up let me know.

  10. Biff says:

    The collision between East and West was greased by zealots pushing a bearded Jew, Jesus or Marx.

    Heathens and Barbarians like peas and carrots. I love it when different peoples look down their nose at one another.

  11. utu says:

    do a good job of making a mockery of themselves all on their own

    I think you just did it to yourself. You, moron.

  12. utu says:

    Spot on on the conduct of Jews vs. the conduct of Chinese as a minority. The question is which part of cultural code makes Jews behave like Jews while Chinese like Chinese. It would be really good to know if we want to fix this world by fixing Jews which clearly are dangerous to this world.

    Already Voltaire in 18 century made some observations:

    “The Kaffirs, the Hottentots, and the Negroes of Guinea are much more reasonable and more honest people than your ancestors, the Jews. You have surpassed all nations in impertinent fables, in bad conduct, and in barbarism. You deserve to be punished, for this is your destiny.”

    “They are, all of them, born with raging fanaticism in their hearts, just as the Bretons and the Germans are born with blond hair. I would not be in the least bit surprised if these people would not some day become deadly to the human race.

    We really are talking about the survival of the human race.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  13. Chuck says:

    “No, yellow man, you must choose one Jew or the other! Jewish is the only way! It’s universal brotherhood and all that, except in Israel!”

    Kek!

  14. dodo says:

    that comparison of chinese with jews is interesting, but be careful, you could be witch-hunted by someone for anti-semitism

  15. Can you imagine American kids being taught that their nation’s biggest menace is not Putin, Islamic patsies or Mexican busboys, but the machinations of Israel?

    No. But Israel is not a menace to the US, for the most part it is a US puppet. It is a thorn in the Middle East that has been very effective in keeping Arabs angry and divided. The last thing the US wants is a united pan-Arab state. Israeli and US machinations have kept the smartest most capable Arabs ( essentially the descendants of the Phoenicians – the Palestinians, Lebanese and Syrians plus the Egyptian Copts) at each others’ throats allowing the stupidest Arabs (the Saudis) to get rich extracting oil and have far too much cultural influence with their debilitating Wahabi Islam. Before the creation of Israel Christian Arabs, Copts and Jews played very important roles in Iraq and Egypt as well. Using Israel to snap the historical bonds of these people to their historical homelands has also played a huge role into turning the Middle East into a disaster and dramatically reduced the native talent pool.

    • Replies: @mcohen
  16. Thanks for these vignettes. A pleasurable read.

  17. iffen says:
    @Truth

    Never use a dog whistle when a fog horn will work.

  18. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Where did you get your hatred of jews from? Jews do entertainment. You don’t deprecate Jack Benny or the Marx Bros. do you? Walter Winchell was big in his day.
    Have you never had a jewish bud? Or a jewish girlfriend?

    I recommend a very adroit book on the jewish question by Sartre.

  19. mcohen says:
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Spot on old chap.divide and conquer in the age of the empire.one has to ask who will benefit the most from declining us influence in the m.e -china of course as it has no oil resources of its own.
    Bear in mind that the vietnam war was started primarily to grab oil resources in the gulf of tonkin,

    https://www.epmag.com/vietnam-tells-china-move-oil-rig-gulf-tonkin-844721

    https://www.google.com.au/amp/uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKPEK26269420080720

    Good luck with your move to vietnam linh,the south china sea is the place to be.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  20. macilrae says:

    As usual from Linh Dinh a fascinating article, covering his topic from an unique and refreshing angle, but which seemed to get a little side-tracked towards the end — predictably causing many commentators here to shift focus onto well-trodden ground: albeit with validity.

    There is a sense of restless energy you get in Vietnam which seems largely absent in Cambodia or Laos where the laid-back atmosphere hits you like a wet blanket- I had put that down to the strong Chinese inter-mixture. In Cambodia there were surely Chinese monopolizing many businesses (I tried to visit a very dodgy-looking fish farm and was doggedly refused access – I have resolutely avoided eating farmed fish from those parts ever since) and I had tea with a fellow who was under indictment for murder while his grand-kids and chickens scrabbled on the floor and his heroin(?) IV hung on the nearby wall – he was Chinese and had fallen afoul of the authorities.

    I believe I am correct in saying that the majority of the Vietnamese “boat people” were ethnic Chinese – seemingly at that time there was a purge going on?

  21. Where did you get your hatred of jews from?

    A lot of folks get their hatred of Jews from Jews. It’s evident that Jews have a hard time getting along with anyone and hate each other as well as dumb goyim and when they act on their feelings, they encourage resentment and loathing.

    If one understands the the meaning of the word, “goy,” (s)he’ll understand the answer to your question.

    Another source of understanding the phenomenon is to read what the old prophets said. Apparently Gawd hizownself could hardly put up with his own “special” ones, nor they with him. Much of what they said was confirmed by Josephus.

    Any further questions?

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  22. luba says:
    @Anon

    Have you noticed that those Hong Kong & Taiwan people you encountered, who liked to mock Mainland Chinese, are all people who have been subjected to Western brainwash all those years?

    Some of Vietnamese greatest dynasties, such as Lý Dynasty, were created by kings who were Chinese descendents: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%BD_Th%C3%A1i_T%E1%BB%95. One of the greatest Vietnamese King “borrowed”/copied Chinese laws from Tang Dynasty: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%BD_Th%C3%A1i_T%C3%B4ng.

    Chinese was lingua franco in Vietnam for quite a long time. Till 20th century, the formal writing in Vietnam was done in literary Chinese. Some of the Vietnamese kings even tried to claim that Vietnam was the righteous heir of China.

    Maybe that explains partially the IQ/competitiveness of Vietnamese vs that of other your so-called brown ppl?

  23. @Anonymous

    Smart Thais usually have Chinese ancestry. There’s a lot of them.

  24. Here, the main historical lesson is that China is a constant threat to encroach upon Vietnam, that Vietnam may be swallowed up entirely by China.

    is there any country in 2018 still live in fear of being conquered and eaten up by china?

    Can you imagine American kids being taught that their nation’s biggest menace is not Putin, Islamic patsies or Mexican busboys, but the machinations of Israel?

    maybe after an american holocaust. after a major american military defeat. would never happen since we all got nukes now. base on current msm and total narrative control, that is the only way for the controlling narrative to collapsed. not before.

  25. luba says:

    One more question to @Linh Dinh : can average Vietnamese nowdays read some Chinese characters and your history book written in Chinese? Or do you need to get high education/specific training to read all those historic records written in Chinese?

  26. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @EnriiiqueCardovaa

    I think Linh spelled out the key difference with the Jews though. The Chinese may be clannish and money hungry like Jews are, but I don’t think the Chinese are near as hostile to the host populations which is proven with how the Chinese have populations all over the world who have co-existed with host nations.

    Jews on the other hand have been expelled pretty much everywhere they have been and even have a contemptible word, goyim, for the host populace whom Jews pretty typically despise.

    • Replies: @EnriiiqueCardovaa
  27. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Indians don’t have a huge presence in SE Asia, and the population there pretty much despises Indians anyway.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  28. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Who says he hates Jews? He isn’t allowed to talk honestly about Jews or else he is an antisemite?

    It isn’t that Jews do entertainment by the way. It’s that Jews are oppressive to other people who need to live with them, always calling them antisemite while those in the entertainment business help themselves to raping goyim women.

  29. mp says:

    I can’t take a vacation. If I’m not here, my employees may pocket some of the receipts…

    So yesterday I went to purchase electrostatic air filter inserts from a local A/C installer. Not the kind you can find at Lowes, or Home Depot. The only employee present was warehouse guy. The owner was out doing an install. I was told they don’t generally do over the counter retail. However, he added that for a twenty he’d get me a contractor’s roll out of the back warehouse.

    I pulled out my card, he hesitated, and replied, “Gots to be cash for me to do the deal.” I shrugged, handed over a Jackson, and he handed me the filters. No tax, no receipt, no nothing. My guess is that when Bossman got back, no mention was made of the deal, while on the way home, after work, warehouse guy was able to buy that case of Bud he hitherto would not have been able to.

    Soon, Bossman will ask warehouse guy, “Don’t we have a roll of filter packs somewhere?” At which time warehouse guy will respond, “I put it on the truck a couple of weeks ago.”

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  30. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    I think it’s because Chinese are people with a home, whereas Jews are not. Overseas Chinese usually arrived because China was particularly bad at the time, and they’re quite open to returning if the tides change.

    A good reason to support Israel!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @utu
  31. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    No insurance scams, public-private ripoffs, pay-day lenders, hand bag slaves or Howard Stern? Here’s socialism:

    “That’s because of the money that’s being sent back by people like me. You must know your roots. If not for Vinh Chau, I wouldn’t be here. Although we’re no longer home, we stay in touch. If we hear, for example, that the temple needs to be fixed, we all chip in.”

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  32. AaronB says:

    I’ve done business with Chinese in NY where they tried to use Jewish tactics on me. Undermine my self-confidence through criticism, feigned outrage – moral atracks, engage me in futile debate, shape my perceptions, create stress and confusion, guilt trip me, use heavily emotional language to make clear thinking difficult, and “assume” the superior pose.

    I don’t know if they learned from American Jews, or its just a natural tactic for a collectivist society to use against an individualistic and rationalistic one. Or if they picked up on American weaknesses intuitively.

    But I was very amused by it and couldn’t help but chuckle to myself.

    What the Chinese would do in SE Asia if they were dealing with an individualistic and hyper rationalistic society (everything open to debate, thus to being manipulated) is hard to say.

    How Jews would fare in SE Asia among a collectivist society where questions of identity and power are off the table and not open to debate – thus not open to being undermined, is easier to predict.

    Being overly rationalistic is a huge weakness among Americans – if everything is open to debate, including your identity, everything is open to being manipulated and undermined, and it’s easy to create confusion.

    Being individualistic is also a huge liability – studies show its very hard to maintain your opinions, even your perceptions, in the absence of social support. It’s quite remarkable. An individual us easily confused and undermined – a member of group, almost never.

    The individual from a collectivist society “knows” – he has the backing of the collective for his beliefs and opinions, and the individual from a non rational society also refuses to even debate certain questions, like identity. They are off the table. He cannot be confused.

    You can’t really analyze Chinese and Jewish behavior in their host countries without analyzing the culture of the host countries.

  33. @Anon

    But Chinese love to mock other Chinese. I hear Chinese in Hong Kong are filled with contempt for Mainland Chinese and vice versa. I hear Taiwanese like to shi* on other Chinese.
    And Hong Kong cinema is full of people who like to mock everything, though mostly fellow Chinese.

    I don’t know if mock is the right word – they mostly just don’t see each other as an ingroup and thus have no great reason to like each other*. A Malaysian or Indo-Chinese has as much to do with a Mainland Chinese as an Australian as to do with an Englishman(and probably a bit less so): same ethnicity, similar if modified culture, and often the same language, but with very different attitudes on values of life. There’s always something to claim locally as superior after all, whether it is cinema(Hong Kong), order/civility(Singapore), democracy(Taiwan), or even having a “more laid-back outlook on life”(SEA Chinese diaspora).

    I think the Jewish have a culture to be more tightly affiliated as an ingroup and frequently have a sense of outside oppresssion as an unifying myth. Indeed, anti-Chinese sentiment tends to be the main source of Chinese unity as well – less effective because often the population will perceive themselves as something other than “Chinese”(Singaporean, Malaysian, etc) .

    In Chinese, this is called being like “沙” and is often mourned: basically being like individual granules of sand that do not actually help each other. Since this has been going on at least a thousand years, it probably isn’t to change.

    *Some, of course, try to signal hard and seek acceptable by actively hating themselves: Gordan Chang being the most prominent example, but there are plenty of this in less prominent people. The sense of self-hate, the desire to be anything but Chinese, the desperate to escape is a palpable feeling those individuals exhibit.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @The Wobbly Guy
  34. @mp

    Not a good idea to admit to taking part in a crime, because that’s what you did. Knowingly.

    • Replies: @mp
    , @jacques sheete
  35. @Anonymous

    It’s voluntary. That’s not socialism as the word is used.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  36. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @EnriiiqueCardovaa

    There’s that American-Vietnam War dog whistle! Just can’t resist can we?

    The CIA controlled the anti-war movement then and still does. Rather then quote Tom’s Dispatch like a hung up evangelical getting high from his stash ask yourself why the New Jack Times published the Pentagon Papers? All the war secrets right out there in view? Why what will you do with the information you’ve been given? Get down and boogie probably, which today means floating the hours away on social survelliance media.

    By the end of another era you and your generation will be on the bandwagon like the 50 somethings before you who finally decided Kissinger (or any other celebrity) really did what was best for the country. It’s easier this way – trust ‘em.

    • Replies: @Malla
  37. Malla says:
    @EnriiiqueCardovaa

    In domestic matters, the “neocon Jews” have served conservative interests well in terms of their in-depth intellectual attacks against various aspects of New Deal/Great Society liberalism.

    Some of these neocon Jews were Trotskyites once. They support what is good for Israel. In-depth intellectual attacks against various aspects of New Deal/Great Society liberalism to attack the left as many in the left are very pro Palestinian.

    • Replies: @Malla
  38. With wisdom, Linh Dinh wrote: “Unlike Israel, the Chinese’ ancestral homeland’s survival is not dependent on the support of a heavily manipulated and indoctrinated client state… Here, the main historical lesson is that China is a constant threat to encroach upon Vietnam, that Vietnam may be swallowed up entirely by China.”

    Hi Linh,

    My older son underwent the usual Israeli indoctrination Process, toured the D.C. Holocaust Museum during a High Shool sponsored class trip, and upon his having turned 25 & well indoctrinated, he labeled me an “Anti-Semite.” Passionate, he fumed, “C’mon, father, I saw lampshades made with Jewish flesh!”

    Thanks for another meaningful and down-to-earth article, and below is linked a priceless “Rabbi Mintz” video who similar to you, talks with “no guile.”

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Anonymous
  39. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    What’s the rent on a two bedroom in Saigon? Are the women laid back or will they dump you like the American Chinese-Viet chicks because you’re a broke ass?

    • Replies: @republic
    , @Truth
    , @SomeGuy
  40. mp says:
    @RadicalCenter

    How does that make me a criminal? Are you serious? All I did was pay for a product. Just speculation on my part how it went down. If any crime was committed, it was not on my end. For all I know, the guy filled out all the necessary forms after I left. For all I know, warehouse guy was the owner’s partner. I don’t run their business for them. I do know that that’s the cash economy for you. It’s why government wants to do away with it.

    • Replies: @Druid
  41. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @RadicalCenter

    lolz, prompted libertarian. How should the word socialism be used?

  42. Malla says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    This is an even better video

    Above: Talmudic Jews say ‘Non Jews Are Beasts to Serve Us as Slaves’

    But are Jews really the chosen people? Maybe not.
    Check out the video below

  43. Malla says:
    @Anonymous

    The Counter culture hippie movement was a CIA Psy Op

    Strangely many rock and roll stars like children of military men. A total CIA psy op to change American society and introduce drugs into the society.

    • Replies: @MarkinPNW
  44. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    And why is it that the Chinese have a home and are able to hold onto it while Jews are not?

  45. Here is a good read for those who want to get a sense of the affinity for the ancestral homeland for the overseas Chinese in SEA rather than from some ABC here.

    http://m.scmp.com/week-asia/opinion/article/2121123/my-mother-and-mao-singapore-taxes-and-rise-hong-kong-property

    One should also read about the fund raising trips of Sun Yetsen in this regard.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  46. neutral says:

    How different are the Chinese and Vietnamese in terms of looks? Could somebody from Vietnam pass as Chinese without anyone giving it a second thought, and the same vice versa? What are the attitudes towards miscegenation, what would the typical reaction be to having ones Vietnamese daughter marry a Chinese man compared to say marrying a black? Finally are there any racial slurs/stereotypes that they have towards each other, that one is not supposed to say in polite conversation or online articles.

  47. republic says:
    @Anonymous

    https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Ho-Chi-Minh-City?displayCurrency=USD

    Apartment (1 bedroom) in City Centre 590.74 $ 383.46-880.72
    Apartment (1 bedroom) Outside of Centre 287.62 $ 176.14-440.36
    Apartment (3 bedrooms) in City Centre 1,167.29 $ 800.15-1,761.44
    Apartment (3 bedrooms) Outside of Centre 667.13 $ 352.29-968.79

    numbeo.com is a good website for cost of living in various world cities

  48. Truth says:
    @Anonymous

    Are the women laid back or will they dump you like the American Chinese-Viet chicks because you’re a broke ass?

    Translation:

    Translation: will my WhiteAmericanness be enough for broads half my age to fuck me for free, or at the most, food and $2 beers?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  49. Anon • Disclaimer says: • Website
    @Daniel Chieh

    Very interesting, thank you. Would you say competitiveness is a common trait among all the groups?

    And why do you think there is “the desire to be anything but Chinese, the desperate to escape”?

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    , @Rdm
  50. @RadicalCenter

    Not a good idea to admit to taking part in a crime, because that’s what you did. Knowingly.

    The same can be claimed, with validity, for anyone who votes or pays taxes willingly.

    Also anyone, including military, who works for a bureaucracy or some corporation that gets any form of bailout, subsidy or preferential treatment from the government is in a similar boat.

    Enjoy!

    Here’s one of endless examples of the point being made.

    “… I spent most of my [33 years in the Marine Corps] being a high class muscle- man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers.

    In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for [crony] capitalism.”

    Major General Butler USMC, War is a Racket, 1935

    http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  51. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Here, the main historical
    lesson is that China is a
    constant threat to encroach
    upon Vietnam, that Vietnam
    may be swallowed up
    entirely bsna. Can you
    imagine American kids being
    taught that their nation’s
    biggest menace is not Putin,
    Islamic patsies or Mexican
    busboys, but the
    machinations of Israel?

    You have eaten too much US UK France Vietcon propaganda sewage. Unz is not for you. Its strange so many Vietnamese even intellectuals like you, and most of my Vietnamese friends are so willing to fall into this Western and Vietcon brainwashing machine. They forgotten who had created the War, instigated the unnecessary civil wars, bombed their country with napalm, orange chemical, massacre their people brutally, rape their women, colonized their country…until China and Soviet went in to help.

    Real historical fact is Vietnamese invade and slaughter Cambodian, Hmog,.threaten to invade whole Asean,…to swallow all up. Too bad, Deng had kicked Vietcon ass real hard to stop its bloated ego and expansionary ambition.

    Ironically, almost all intellectual and good looking viets are actually fair skin chinese ethics yet anti China because of Vietcon propaganda. Real ethic Vietnamese are actually dark skin, small frame like Japan’s Ainu.

    If China will to swallow up Vietnam, it will has another 100Mil poor peasants to feed and uplift from poverty, an utter corrupted Vietcon government to clean up. They have enough own people and problems to handle, vast empty lands to develop, another shit hole is the last thing it wants.

    Its just strange that so many intellectuals are still falling for all these anti China, Russia, NKorea, Iran propaganda and participating in it, in whole Asean, Asia, my country too…even they themselves actually suffered much under the West imperialism colonist aggression historically up till now, while benefiting much from China trade currently. For last many hundreds years, China has never invade any country but a victim of endless aggressions, with all its neighbors invading around, especially Russia, Japan, India(still doing) and Vietnam(still illegally taking China’s SCS islands, occupying the most islands).

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    , @Malla
  52. Joe Wong says:
    @Anon

    China is a constant threat to encroach upon Vietnam, that Vietnam may be swallowed up entirely by China.

    Linh Dinh was wrong, “Vietnam” was part of China before it has its own state. In Chinese eyes, Vietnam like Taiwan are renegaded provinces. Vietnam was pried away by the French while Taiwan was pried away by the Japanese while China was weak.

    BTW, while the educated Linh Dinh in Vietnam he should mobilize the Vietnamese to get rid of the French imposed ugly curly European script and restore their ancestor writing script back as their national writing script. The French imposed curly script reminds people the Vietnamese is still servile to their ex-White master, and are deeply mentally colonized by the White like the Taiwanese who are deeply mentally colonized by the unrepentant war criminal Japanese.

    • Replies: @Joe Wong
    , @Anon
    , @Miltiades
  53. @ThatDamnGood

    Oh please, spare me, you know nothing of my background or the fact that I quite regularly travel most of Asia. You believe that there are secret “Daoist kingmakers” who coordinate three thousand year old plans. This is literal crackpottery.

    I’m not saying that there aren’t “patriots,” and I’ve specifically said that anti-Chinese sentiment serves as an unifying sentiment. Indeed, that’s specifically highlighted in the memoir you linked:

    I saw great potential in China, but I can’t claim to have had a crystal ball on the momentous changes that would follow the death of Mao Zedong. Luckily or unluckily, I was born Chinese, and I have always remained very proud of being Chinese. The more I heard people call China backward, the more I felt we must show the rest of the world, some day, that China can be advanced.

    But you hardly need to take from me that any large-scale loyalty to the motherland is highly slanted to the nominal, at best: consider Lee Kuan Yew himself in 2009 on Charlie Rose:

    SCMP, of course, wants to try to promote a notion of pan-Chinese support but it is not exactly an unbiased actor. This is important for the Party, which needs to get all of the support and talent that it can get worldwide. Thus the ideological slant that it seeks to present.

  54. wayfarer says:

    Linh your fortune cookie says,

    ” Don’t worry about money. The best things in life are free!”

  55. @jacques sheete

    I’m with you, just saying that the government’s theft and wrongdoing don’t justify ours individually.

  56. Joe Wong says:
    @Joe Wong

    Linh Dinh should know the current Vietnamese history was fabricated by the French and American for the purpose to sever the thousands of years of culture ties between Chinese and Vietnamese, so they can steal and colonized Indo-China including Vietnam forever.

    Vietnamese needs to get rid of their French imposed writing script and return to the writing script used their ancestors used, so they can read the real history of Vietnam instead of the toxic animosity filled French and American fabricated modern Vietnam history.

  57. @Anon

    Fairly so, I think. There are exceptions but its huge part of the culture these days, even when disguised. You’ll know it when your dad begins to comment repeatedly: “You know, Mr. Cheng’s son is only 27 and he’s already making $90, 000 and you are almost thirty too…” and lets the silence speak the rest.

    As for the latter…

    The desire to “fit in” can be more difficult for some than most. While I largely despise Gordon Chang and his story is an extreme example, I think that self-hating attitude(which he extends to all of China, and is honestly a profitable gig) is one way to try to affirm what to him, may be a failing identity.

    • Replies: @Anon
  58. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    The Holocaust Museum was built for a number of reasons. One of them was undoubtedly to keep anti-semitism alive although you’ll never read that in the news. How could that be? Isn’t that anti-semitic?

    If you look closer in SW DC you’ll see the museum really is a fortress. Off the mall, off of Independence Avenue really. Curious. After 9/11 things got even more obvious, surely the Holocaust Museuem might be next, we’ll need more jersey barriers, contractors and guards.

    Sophisticated survelliance, facial recognition, metal detectors, undercover guards and defense contractors at a museum? Why sure!

    Authority tells us a wayward patsy might show up (again or at anytime) all angry so the police state can put on a show. All the actors get training especially the patsies. The museum isn’t anyone’s enemy per se, but sustain that cognitive dissonance like a good patriot.

    You may need a security clearance at some point to go here, no joke, but today’s phones will do. This isn’t the steams engines display at the American History Museum where you could walk by the cool black guy falling asleep at the security desk. Those days are long gone and I’m glad some us jews realize it. I wonder how the museums are in Vietnam?

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  59. @Anon

    Anti-Chinese animus from Vietnam is inevitable.

    Consider that Mexico is also largely dominated by a basically Caucasian elite, relies heavily on the US for its living standard, and sends huge quantities of illegal aliens to earn money in the US but highly, highly despises America(as a nation, though not necessarily not the people).

    Given that, the fact that Vietnam has a heavily Han descended elite, relies on China for much of its living standard and sends illegal aliens into China, it should naturally parallel that they will despise the China(again, the nation but not necessarily its people).

    • Replies: @Anon
  60. @neutral

    A good analogy would be a comparison between Spaniards and Latin Americans. Many Latin Americans could pass by without comment in Spain and vice versa but even more would be readily identifiable as non Spanish because they are obviously mixed.

    The Vietnamese, that is the Kinh, are actually a mestizo race formed in the last two thousand years. Their ancestry is primarily Thai, but with a significant amount of Chinese ancestry from both a millennium of imperial rule and continuous Chinese migration. How they ended up speaking an Austro-Asiatic language no one is certain on. Their ancestry is quite similar to the Han Chinese of the far south such as Guangdong and Guangxi except the admixture ratios are different. Whereas the neighboring Chinese might be roughly 90-10 Northern Chinese and native Thai, the Vietnamese would be the inverse.

    In another parallel with the mestizos of Latin America, the proportion of Chinese ancestry rises with socio-economic status and the higher up you go the greater percentage of likely Chinese ancestry you’ll find. The Vietnamese rage against the perfidious Chinese much like the South Americans resent the Gabacho and the Gringo. Look a little closer at their elites ancestry, say Jorge Castaneda or Vincente Fox (aka Mr. Fuchs) and the irony dawns on you that the people most likely to be angry have ancestry that is primarily from those they resent.

    • Replies: @neutral
    , @Hibernian
  61. Chinese are not like Jews. In the West, it is the Germans that they share most affinity with. Jews have been in galuth for a long time. They have no peasantry. It was a driving force for the Zionists, this realization that they could not be a true landed nation without this. Peasant types were mocked and scorned (understand why Haaretz is named as it is) in Jewry, as opposed to Germany and China, where they were looked at as the bedrock of the nation-state.

    Germans prospered everywhere they went, not just in Europe, but globally. They retained their language, their rituals, their familial culture, just like the Chinese. They were not averse to intermarrying with the locals, like the Chinese, and unlike the Jews and Hindus, but culturally they kept apart, and found themselves superior to the lazy locals surrounding them. They were an historical people (i.e. seeing themselves as playing a role in history), like the Chinese. Their respective populations were equally at home farming, working in mines, or making shoes, and did not deign to refuse to work in particular fields. Popular unrest could be stirred up against them (Russia, the Baltic states, etc…), as it is the Chinese (Indonesia, the Philippines, etc…), due to the jealousy inherent to their success among indigenous. As in Bien Hoa, the Germans were invited to Poland, to Chile, to Russia, etc…to work and bring about prosperity.

    Internationally, in the aftermath of two (race) wars against them, Germans have been wiped off of the map, both physically and spiritually. From Russia to the United States, from Guatemala to Estonia, from Cameroon to Papua New Guinea, their contributions and prosperity have been erased, and very few recognize that the foundations they make their livings on are due to the previous industriousness of the Germans.

    This ridiculous trope about the Jews being like the Chinese, and vice versa, is spouted by superficial academics (e.g. Amy Chua) and such, particularly Jews, in a bid to show a link between successful peoples and turn it into self-praise, or as some type of talismanic assurance that hey, you can’t juggernaut us, we’re like you, ha ha ha. That’s all fine, until the struggle for resources becomes more glaring.

    The worldwide Chinese will not be as easy to dislodge as the Germans were.

  62. Malla says:
    @Anon

    For last many hundreds years, China has never invade any country but a victim of endless aggressions, with all its neighbors invading around

    These Chinese nationalists sound a lot like Indian nationalists. That is what all people in India say, just replace China with India in the above sentence.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @denk
  63. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth

    lolz. Real women punch someone in the mouth for such behavior. In America, prostitutes sometimes wait 20 years and then scream rape.

  64. Old Jew says:
    @The Seneca Effect

    see Yuri Slezkine: “Mercurials”. It may be unrelated to Amy Chua.

  65. neutral says:
    @Duke of Qin

    I must be honest, I cannot tell the difference, that image of the people at a Restaurant in Saigon, I don’t know if those are supposed to be Chinese or Vietnamese people.

    Also, as I already asked, are racial slurs common between the two, is miscegenation common or is it a big taboo?

  66. neutral says:
    @Joe Wong

    Oh please, this is just another variation of blaming all racial tensions on white people. One does not have to know anything about Vietnam to know that different people sharing borders end up having conflict on occasion. I do know however that China invaded Vietnam, not that long ago.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  67. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @A Currency Lad

    “Chinese are not dominant in media, education, government or banking in their host countries.”

    Not true in Thailand that’s for sure.

    Its true in general sense, overseas Chinese are only interested in making good money or job, not power play that bring risk. In Western countries, media, gov and banking are largely anti chinese, overwhelming controlled by whites or jews.

    But in Asean countries where majority local people are simply quite backward and lay back comparatively, not to insult, but look at local brown Thais, Malaysia Malays, Singapore Malays, Indonesia Malays, Burmese, Cambodian, Laos, they are of similar genes and culture wearing sarongs, eating with hands… that are traced back to a tribe in Yunan who migrated down south.

    So naturally the more business minded and hardworking smarter chinese dominate everything in Asean, with some Indians, Silks, Arabs and Eurasian.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  68. republic says:
    @Joe Wong

    A Jesuit priest of Jewish origin, Alexandre de Rhodes help create the Vietnamese alphabet in the 17th century.

    • Replies: @renfro
  69. @Anonymous

    To paraphrase an award winning Hollywood film, this is no country for goyim of goodwill.

    Otherwise, Anonymous, I do nog enjoy exchanging thought with the anonymous. So this is it, and in the words of Edward Murrow, “good night and good luck.”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  70. nebulafox says:
    @neutral

    The Chinese are generally paler skinned and fuller figured (not fat or anything, just that ethnic Kinh-native Vietnamese-tend to be very skinny and lithe), from what I’ve noticed.

  71. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Bullshit. Any chinese with a bag of money is welcome to buy off everyone. Where does this questionably earned loot end up? In an American Mafia bank to play with real estate. You do understand the US couldn’t have shredded Iraq without China buying up our so-called guarantees?

    • Replies: @Anon
  72. nebulafox says:
    @The Seneca Effect

    It is an interesting parallel. There used to be German districts in Warsaw, St. Petersberg, Moscow, all over the old Russian Empire before the world wars, much like you see Chinatowns in Bangkok, Jakarta, Saigon, etc. The Thirty Year’s War devastated Germany much like the Taiping Rebellion would China, leading to-on local standards-high quality human capital flowing in and not asking for much. For centuries, the slang word for “foreigner” in Russian and other Slavic languages was “German”, such was the association, and the language of medicine, law, and other professional occupations was stereotypically German, as seen in Dostoevsky’s novels. And much like Kuala Lumpur was founded as a Chinese tin mining village, cities like Tallinn and Prague were founded by Germans, albeit much, much earlier during the Ostiedlung-complete with Magdeburg Rights.

    That said, the Germans, while discriminated against initially for the same reasons the Chinese were among the smarter breed of Southeast Asian dictator (“Turn them loose to make money and science since we don’t have a native business/technical class for now-as long as they remember their place and don’t get too uppity”), also achieved a level of eventual power under the Tsars that the Chinese could never have dreamed of under the colonial powers. Thailand proved to be the major exception-the royal family is part Chinese. Which, of course, led most of them to side with the Whites in the Civil War, much like most Chinese sided with South Vietnam, leading the Communists to target both for ethnic cleansing.

    • Replies: @Anon
  73. @neutral

    There are ethnic overlaps. I’ve never heard of a slur for the Vietnamese in Chinese myself, though politically its quite acrimonious.

    IIRC, its one of the more common foreign brides but I can’t find the source for that. I’m not familiar with one myself in the circles I’ve known. Its not a big taboo if she’s light skinned or there wouldn’t be articles like this:

    http://www.lyhuong.net/uc/index.php/bandoc/356-356

  74. @neutral

    Vietnam hasn’t been part of China since the 1500s, and that has nothing to do with the French; nor would adding more intractable corruption problems to China help in the forseeable future.

    He’s pretty much a troll, just ignore him.

    • Replies: @Joe Wong
  75. nebulafox says:
    @Anonymous

    They are nowhere near as numerous as the Chinese, but there is a prominent South Indian minority in Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, and before the war caused them to flee, Vietnam. They tend to be of the rather prosperous merchant type and are discriminated against, but for the same reasons as the Chinese rather than because they are seen as working class.

    I do know that recent Indian migrants tend to be viewed differently, but then again, so are recent migrants from the PRC: including by the “native” Chinese themselves.

    • Replies: @Malla
  76. @Anonymous

    Fair enough. I just think there are some strong similarities between the two, as far as power in respective host societies and hostility. The Chinese have been extensively hated or resented in their host societies due to their dominance in local economies and educational systems, clannishness, as well as potential “dual loyalties” to a hegemonic China, from Vietnam to Indonesia. That feeling has not disappeared. I would agree though that the Jewish case is more extensive.

    Which again brings up the mystery- how come Trump who has been hailed as a “redeemer” figure by many, so cosy with Israel and assorted Jewish proxies/agents/boosters thereto, if these people are supposed to be such an internal threat?

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  77. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    The owners don’t want anyone to be anonymous. It’s otherwise illegal actually. Unz doesn’t even bother with tighter sockets on the front and your keystrokes are are all over the place for safe keeping and other resources. We would call this theft if we knew any better. But we don’t. We post after Chris Hedges writes about privacy. Lol @ the flock.

  78. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    Given that, the fact that Vietnam has a heavily Han descended elite, relies on China for much of its living standard and sends illegal aliens into China, it should naturally parallel that they will despise the China(again, the nation but not necessarily its people).

    I beg to differ on that. Many Vietnamese women dream to marry to US/ Singapore or work as illegal prostitute(sorry no offence), their men dream to study or work there no matter what job, yet they don’t despise any of these nations. They even admire Singapore chinese, but Almost all Vietnamese I come across hate China deeply regarding SCS and border war, tho not against China people.

    i would said mega anti China propaganda by US UK and Vietcon(after punished by Deng) are one main factor brainwashing their nations to harbour outsized deep enmity. Consider how much war suffering and sanction US & France had brought to them vs China, yet they admired them like gods without tiny bad memory. And their Vietcon gov knew SCS and border war historical facts very well, Viet is solely at fault and lying. But they chose to go India way to distort history.

    Similarly in Myanmar under West destructive sanction, almost all Burmese esp intellectual i met hate China blindly, complaining how China bully and grabed all their resources, sell them junks, and only West can defend them. When question how China did that, they couldn’t justify single point, because they heard from BBC, America Voice and Sweden short wave radio broadcasting, and USAid sponsored msm.

    Take an absurb example, one smart Medical Dr is whining how evil China wanted to build a mega billions dollars hydropower dam for Myanmar and took all its electricity for next 10yrs before giving it free, and sending all dredge soil back because its all filled with gold. When i qn who will pay $5B, he said Myanmar can’t afford. Then how about asking their dear Americans to build for free, he said no one will. So what’s wrong with such aids project to recover partial cost from electricity generated? Still these fools violently protest and force their gov to scrap the project they badly need. Now they can enjoy dredging river filled with “gold” in darkness told by the West fairy tale.

    But recent Western make Rohingya crisis conspiracy had Myanmar people awaken to what these evils up to. So they are realizing its China that protect them in last 50yrs from US war aggression.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    , @Karl
  79. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    You have no single knowledge about Asian or overseas Chinese. I doubt you ever travel out of your country or have any Chinese business friends.

    China is buying US treasury out of no choice. It needs to park its huge trade surplus and foreign reserves(to stabilize Yuan) in best return. Euro, Pound and Yen are just junks now after QE & negative interest. Everyone did that, but China war chess is too huge catching attention.

    Pls educate yourself before calling a very factual comments from someone having direct experience bullshit.

  80. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Joe Wong

    Linh Dinh was wrong, “Vietnam” was part of China before it has its own state. In Chinese eyes, Vietnam like Taiwan are renegaded provinces. Vietnam was pried away by the French while Taiwan was pried away by the Japanese while China was weak.

    This is something new, Vietnam is part of China. Facts pls.

    China regards all southern areas as uncivilized South Barbarians. Its not interested at all these lands, even when Zhenhe found Australia and many new lands well before Western Explorer uses his maps to explore.

    • Replies: @Joe Wong
  81. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @nebulafox

    The Germans might in technology and its people fighting spiritare still much fear by the AngloAmericans till this day. That’s why US refused to sign mutual non spying agreement with Germany.

  82. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @The Seneca Effect

    Interesting info.

    The Germans power in technology and fighting spirit are still very much fear by the AngloAmericans till this day. That’s why US refused to sign mutual non spying agreement with Germany even after been leaked about CIA tapping its ally Merkel phone.

    But the absurb moslem migrants policy and US manipulated German gov is destroying Germany.

    Chinese are too many to dislodge. China produce one Germany every 4yrs, 80Mil. And Chinese nature is to go anywhere if there is opportunity to improve life.

  83. @AaronB

    Using “criticism, feigned outrage – moral attacks, futile debate, perceptions shaping stress and confusion, guilt trips, emotionalism, and assuming superior poses pretty much describes some of the tactics of white groups, including white Americans in their dealings with others. They aren’t a Chinese monopoly by any means, or a collectivist one either. Activities overseas by super individualistic, rationalistic Americans have included all the above tactics.

    .
    AaronB says:
    What the Chinese would do in SE Asia if they were dealing with an individualistic and hyper rationalistic society (everything open to debate, thus to being manipulated) is hard to say.
    ———————————————–

    But its not hard at all. We have the historical record. When the CHinese ran into the rational, rugged American individualists on the West Coast of the US, they pretty much ran the same playbook- tight, clannish organization, concentration on the building power in the economic sphere, extensive “behind the scenes” manipulation including bribery, and a penchant for blunt force grinding work that could outlast their detractors.

    .
    How Jews would fare in SE Asia among a collectivist society where questions of identity and power are off the table and not open to debate – thus not open to being undermined, is easier to predict.
    —————————————

    How so? When the Jews encountered the collectivist societies like in the Ottoman Empire, etc etc, they pretty much, like the Chinese in their own sphere, ran the same plays, and did not do too badly overall..

    .
    Being overly rationalistic is a huge weakness among Americans – if everything is open to debate, including your identity, everything is open to being manipulated and undermined, and it’s easy to create confusion.
    —————————————————-

    But who says Americans are overly rationalistic? History delivers no such verdict. Matter of fact there is plenty of evidence that Americans prefer the contrary- appeals to the emotions, tribal loyalties (local, regional and racial) and good old fashioned cash on the barrelhead as in the horse trading, pork barrel, machine politics that keeps things moving. The university or think-tank egghead has never been a popular figure among Americans, and “rationalism” has had plenty of detractors- such as the fierce union struggles against “rational” corporate exploitation. And most Americans do not open everything up to debate- egghead academics in universities and think tanks might debate forever, but not the common “man in the street.” Even the much maligned media follow certain shared understandings with the public.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Sam J.
    , @AaronB
    , @Hibernian
  84. Sherman says:
    @AaronB

    You seem pretty stupid.

    It probably doesn’t take much to “undermine” your “self-confidence”.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  85. MarkinPNW says:
    @Malla

    Well, Russian defector and dissident Yuri Bezmenov, former KGB agent, claimed that 85% of the KGB budget was spent to culturally and morally undermine the west. When he defected, he insisted on settling in Canada because he did “not trust the CIA in the US.” Makes one wonder if he knew even more than he publically disclosed, and that the CIA was infiltrated by or otherwise in cahoots with the KGB to destroy US and Western society.

    • Replies: @Malla
  86. @Anon

    Haha.

    How typical. I’ve had some experience with that, though in Africa. At some point, its impossible to work with their elite on a rational basis, especially when you realize that they honestly don’t care for their people. Bribery is the only language that they understand.

    Its really sad all around.

  87. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    …reached its nadir under Pol Pot, a man who combined secular Jewish messianism with atavistic Angkor yearnings. The collision between East and West was greased by zealots pushing a bearded Jew, Jesus or Marx. “No, yellow man, you must choose one Jew or the other! Jewish is the only way! It’s universal brotherhood and all that, except in Israel!”

    Not so simple as all that. While Christianity was forcibly introduced to Southeast Asia by European Imperialists — all in all, its influence was probably better than Buddhism with its streak of nihilism — , communism was something Asians freely adopted on their own to expel the European Imperialists.
    While the Soviet Empire did forcibly take over and conquer peoples of Eastern Europe and Central Asia, communism spread in nations like China, Vietnam, and Cambodia out of the free will of Asians who came to believe that it was their best weapon against imperialism.

    The irony is that communism was indeed an effective weapon against imperialism, whereas Christianity was the religion of the invasive and oppressive foreigners. But in the long run, communism turned out to be oppressive and tyrannical(even murderous in some cases), and new generations of Chinese and Vietnamese are finding more meaning and purpose from Christianity, now divorced from imperialist designs. The new religion of Western Globalist Imperialism is Homomania as Jews have come to control the West and Jews have negative feelings about Christianity. The only kind of Christianity Jews can tolerate is the one that is all about Diversity or worshiping homos even more than Jesus.

    Anyway, I think we have to give communism some due. Yes, it was the god that failed. Its economic theory was ultimately flawed despite the utopian idealism. To understand why communism was bound to fail, one just has to imagine the entire economy of a metropolis run by city hall. City Hall can barely fund and manage the basic municipal operations. Imagine city hall controlling all the markets, all the restaurants, all the hotels, all the housing, all the stores, all the transportation, all the construction, and etc. Things would ground to a halt, especially since communism suppresses material incentives for hard work.

    Also, communism was bound to limit creativity because everything was about the collective and the plain. For good or ill, creativity is always elitist and/or iconic because it’s about rare talents working toward perfection of archetypal forms. This is why most people are not star material. Only Paul Newman could be Paul Newman. Only Clint Eastwood could be Clint Eastwood. Even in pop culture, how many people have the talent of someone like Paul McCartney or Burt Bacharach to compose and craft such wonderful songs? True art must be honest or visionary; true entertainment must be inspired and exciting.

    Humanism is indispensable as the basic social philosophy of a nation, but arts and creativity are about the special talent with the perfectionist touch. Because communism saddled arts and culture with the heavy moralism of the Worker and Revolution, communist expressions got boring and predictable.
    Worse, people are naturally spiritual, and since communism banished religion, it turned to elevating secular figures as new gods, and this cult of personality got stupid and obnoxious.

    So, in the long run, communism was bound to fail, and it deserved to fail. Who wants to live under communism forever?

    Still, one must give credit where it’s due in appreciating communism as a uniting force and organizing principle for Third World nations in a world where so many non-whites were under the domination of few Western nations. Against Western Imperialism, which seemed so overwhelming back then — just like many people in the 80s thought communism would last for many more decades, maybe indefinitely — , non-white peoples sought deliverance. How could they drive out the imperialists? Japanese offered an answer with Great East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere, but it was a case of replacing one imperialism with another(that could be even more brutal). As for traditional values and schools of thoughts, they seemed useless against the dynamic and aggressive West. Confucianism seemed quaint and irrelevant. If anything, it came to be associated with effete scholars who were doing calligraphy when their nation was being carved up by foreigners. Taoism and Buddhism were too mystical and passive to address the dire problems of reality. Both were thought systems of detachment and non-action. The old elites were either gone, collaborating with the imperialists, or offered nothing but return to domestic tyranny of privileged elites lording over the people as slaves, serfs, or tenant-farmers.
    There was capitalism, but global capitalism was dominated by few European empires and the US. Even if capitalism could work in the long run, it was useless in creating a unified mass against the imperialists. For one thing, capitalism under imperialist rule will favor the imperialist investors and owners and the native collaborator-comprador elites, as well as foreign merchants doing the bidding of the imperialists, as was the case of the Chinese minority. Also, capitalism is mainly about profits, and so, even Vietnamese capitalists would prioritize profits above all else. Even if it hurt the cause of Vietnamese independence and sovereignty, Vietnamese capitalists would have chosen profits over patriotism. We see this in America too. So many US capitalists will betray American workers and national sovereignty to stuff their own pockets. So, capitalism without full national sovereignty would have failed to bring Vietnam together. Look at South Korea. As it is defined by capitalism under US neo-imperialism, it favors profits over national unity and sovereignty. Even when the US keeps increasing tensions to keep the peninsula divided indefinitely, South Koreans continue to play toady to America because profits come first. As such, the two Koreas may never unite again.
    Another problem with capitalism is it takes time to develop. While capitalism is ultimately more productive and efficient than communism, it can have an disorganizing than organizing impact on society since it’s about the cutthroat competition of multiple players. Great Britain and the US were able to develop successful capitalist models because both were geographically secure and politically united. They didn’t have to worry much about invasion, and if anything, they became invaders than the invaded.
    But without geographical security and political-national sovereignty, capitalism can cause more problems because its openness can lead to easy infiltration and takeover by foreigners. After all, it was through capitalism that globalist Jews gained so much control over Russia and South Africa.
    Also, even the successful East Asian capitalist models relied on significant government controls and support. The rise of Japanese and South Korean economies is hard to conceive without the role of the state. And it was also true of rise of Modern Germany.

    Under French Colonialism and then American neo-imperialism, Vietnam couldn’t gain full national sovereignty with capitalism alone. Vietnamese needed something stronger and more ruthless in order to organize, unite, and fight to drive out the foreigners and build a new system based on nationalism and independence. And at the time, communism seemed like the best bet. Now, why not fascism?
    For several reasons. WWII gave fascism a bad name. Soviet Union, which presented itself as the champion of world revolutions, fought a bitter war against radical German fascism and prevailed. So, even fascists after WWII didn’t want to be associated with the label.
    Another problem was Fascism is an ideology of working with existing systems than creating a new one from scratch. So, Mussolini inherited the conditions of modern Italy and tried to make the best of it by balancing capital and labor, tradition and modernity. Same with National Socialism in Germany. Hitler was working with existing systems and inherited political norms. He did push for radical change in some ways, but he didn’t have to work from scratch, nor did he want to.

    In contrast, Vietnam was poor and backward. It had nothing much to inherit from the past. Also, the French imperialists had hardly invested much into Vietnam. They were mostly into exploitation of rubber like in the silly movie INDOCHINE. So, everything had to be built from scratch based on a new template. A more radical approach was needed than fascism that seeks a balance of tradition and modernity. (Now, Cuba could have done better with a fascist-nationalist model because the Castro regime did inherit a considerable economy and means of production from the pre-existing system. If the Castro regime had kicked out the mafia and worst of the oligarchs and had protected the national bourgeoisie on condition that they uphold Cuban nationalism against Yanqui and Jewish gangster-capitalism, it could have done so much more.)

    So, considering the main objectives of Ho Chi Minh, communism made good sense. Only communism could provide a simple but powerful idea to unite all Vietnamese who were poor and backward. In a nation with a small capitalist class and insignificant middle class, only something like communism could be a unifying force for the masses. Also, communist culture of discipline, purity of spirit, and sacrifice imbued the comrades with a willingness to die for the cause. It’s like what Michael Corleone observes about the Cuban rebel who gave his own life for the Revolution. It’s difficult for a revolution to succeed unless people are willing to die for it, just like it’s difficult for capitalism to succeed unless people are willing to work hard to afford fun stuff.

    To liberate and unify the nation, Ho Chi Minh and his cohorts had only communism as an effective weapon against France and the US. Only communism could unify the masses, instill iron discipline into them, and make them want to fight and die for a higher cause. And the Vietnamese did manage to defeat the French and the Americans, the only such record in the 20th century. They also bested the Chinese in the late 70s and prevailed over Cambodia, then a satellite of China. Could Vietnam have done all this without communist principles of organization, morale, sacrifice, and vision? I doubt it.
    To be sure, it was a most tragic century as the Vietnamese fought almost non-stop from WWII to the 1990s. But it is united unlike sorry Korea. Also, Vietnam probably has more political and historical respect than all the vassal nations of Southeast Asia.

    If anything, it is capitalism that is turning Vietnam into shit again. Now, I’m all for economic reforms and market dynamics in Vietnam. I’m all for Vietnam forging new ties with US, China, and the world. But considering the great struggle, sacrifice, and achievements of the Revolution, the current elites of Vietnam should be hanged for cucking out to Homomania and letting prostitution run rampant again, turning Ho Chi Minh City into old Saigon. Profits and incentives are good, but a nation made by Viet Cong shouldn’t go Viet Cuck.

    Now, the Middle East didn’t need communism because they had a powerful and timeless idea as an organizing principle: Islam. With faith in Islam, the Afghanis drove out the Soviets. Unlike passive religions like Buddhism or secular philosophies like Confucianism, the energies of Islam will never fade. Now, Islam has lots of problems and, like communism, can be repressive and hold back necessary reforms. But in a world where anything related to ‘freedom’ and ‘human rights’ are so defined and controlled by US globalist hegemony, the non-West needs some powerful countervailing idea or force to keep some measure of sovereignty.

    And to that extent, we have to give communism some credit.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Sam J.
  88. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    Lol. Malla, you used to be very factual and i learn much from your comments about China and India. Now that im stating facts, how can i be Chinese nationalist when im from anti China country?

    Name me an example China Hans had invaded and occupied another country in past few hundreds years.

    And since India gotten independent, how many states and countries it has invaded? I read its 50 over princely states, true? After Sikkin, its Bhutan & Bangladesh literally, then trying to control Nepal, Sri Lanka and Maldives now. Still fighting Pakistan and China for more lands which India no need.

    Instead of building infrastructure for its badly needed people, India chosen to waste so much on war machines and building roads for border wars, benefiting only few corrupted people and MIC.

    • Replies: @Malla
  89. Aaron B says:
    Being individualistic is also a huge liability – studies show its very hard to maintain your opinions, even your perceptions, in the absence of social support. It’s quite remarkable. An individual us easily confused and undermined – a member of group, almost never..
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    Who says in an individualistic society you do not have social support for your opinions? Again, history shows no such thing. Individualism does not contradict uniformity of opinion, you can have plenty of both co-existing at the same time, they are not mutually exclusive. The rugged individualists of the American West had plenty of mutual support as they burnt out and massacred various Chinese settlements for example. Likewise the free-wheeling, free booting, hard-drinking subculture of Irish Americans has long been criticized for unbridled individualism- yet the Irish were also known for their collectivism when it came to the political sphere and often unstintingly supported the most corrupt governments in urban America- a sore point with assorted WASP critics.

    .
    The individual from a collectivist society “knows” – he has the backing of the collective for his beliefs and opinions, and the individual from a non rational society also refuses to even debate certain questions, like identity. They are off the table. He cannot be confused
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    This may be so depending on how strong the alleged “collectivism” is, but your point fails to consider when a process of change, EMBEDDED IN WESTERN CULTURE ITSELF, causes loss of identity. In the case of the West, western culture itself has generated changes that leads to constant weakening of identity. The examples are old and many- from the rule of an imperial hegemon like Rome that weakens tribal identities, or the strong influence of a cultural hegemon like Hellenism (Greeks), to the influence of a uniform ideology- such as Christianity which also weakened old tribal bonds.

    Then there is the whole process of modernization, which also weakens the old tribal collectivist bonds. Hence once narrow-minded groups changed to consider themselves part of large aggregations such as Christians, Romans, Britons, Italians etc etc as is demonstrated by the new identities and fierce patriotism of the modern nation state. Likewise on a more internal plane, groups once seen as alien tribals, in time, lost their tribal identities and now consider themselves, and are now considered primarily to be, part of a larger identity grouping- called Americans.

    Also keep in mind that “rationalism” is something hailed as part and parcel of Western culture by conservatives, hearkening back of the Greeks, sacred paragons of Western culture. Sexual relations between boys and older men for example was viewed favorably in the hallowed, rational halls of Athenian thinkers. Matter of fact the famous “symposium” was a venue where such contacts were cultivated, and frequent, and the longest conversation if Plato’s Symposium is on the nature of homosexual love. This is not something brought in by today’s “liberals” or “Jewish interlopers.”

    And not only the “effete” Athenians. Among the mighty Spartans it was quite the thing- and a key part of the bonding system of their military. In fact newly married Spartan women were sometimes known to dress as young boys on their wedding nights, perhaps inspiring their he-men husbands to greater efforts in bed. So some of the alleged “individualistic excesses” we see today may not be so “new” at all, but part and parcel of millennia of influential Western culture. They are not necessarily a “Jew” product.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  90. @The Seneca Effect

    The Mercurians thing was ridiculous. “As professional cultivators of people, Mercurians use words, concepts, money, emotions, and other intangible as tools of their trade.” Oh.

    God, that book was so full of holes and contradictions (if also full of interesting tidbits). Slezkine didn’t know what to do to separate Germans in the Russia Empire after slamming them domestically so he gave them the “Mercurian” label while implying that back in their homelands they were not Mercurian, just Apollonian. LOL. He failed to note that they were an utterly accomplished and successful people wherever they emigrated. Transylvania. Argentina. Australia. Venezuela. Canada. And Germany, Austria, and Switzerland, their homelands, as well.

    Chinese, like the Germans up to the post-war generations, are innately conservative, as one would expect of an agriculturally grounded people. Jews – and one can take this in a negative or positive sense, but the fact can’t be denied – are a revolutionary people, an agitator people, wherever they end up. Jews are far more similar, when in galuth, to Hindus.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  91. AaronB says:
    @The Seneca Effect

    There are two sides to the Chinese character, if not more – Confucianism may be conservative, but Taoism is anarchic and radical, and it’s a big part of the Chinese psyche.

    Singapore may be dull and repressive and organized, but the Chinese also love noisy and chaotic cities where hedonism and freedom from restraint and indulgence in pleasure hold sway. The Chinese drink a ton and are avid frequenters of prostitutes.

    As for Jews, their communal and home life is very conservative, and they are only radicals when it comes to their host population.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    , @Truth
  92. @neutral

    A lot of overseas Chinese men (singapore, Taiwan etc) marry Vietnamese women since they cannot get local women due to hypergamy.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnamese_migrant_brides_in_Taiwan

    So no taboo there.

  93. @The Seneca Effect

    You are completely wrong on several counts. The Chinese have in several respects been like the Jews- from their economic and educational dominance, to the clannishness, to their perceived “dual loyalties.” It is not Amy Chua that makes the case, but the hard record of history, as conservative, and very NON superficial Thomas Sowell shows time and time again. No one need Chua to make the case, history makes the case.

    You also say that the Jews have no peasantry, but this is a weak point for while lack of a peasantry is generally true as to the diaspora, the Chinese have also pursued urban activities heavily as they settled throughout Asia. Matter of fact Chinese ownership of land was frowned upon by locals in many places, forcing the Chinese, like the Jews, to go into more urban occupations and pursuits. Hence the resented Chinese shopkeeper, mill owner etc is a staple figure in Southeast Asia. This does not mean no peasantry- there were farmers in various spots- but the bulk of Chinese activity was linked more with the urban line. The same pattern shows in the United States. The Chinese were driven out or restricted as to land-ownership. They were forced to go urban- hence the famous “Chinatowns” all over the US. Here again is another strong parallel to the Jews, parallels which you claim do not exist.

    You also say peasant types were mocked and scorned in Jewry. But this is dubious. Again, diasporan Jews were in many cases forbidden or discouraged from getting a land base. They had to go urban, just like the Chinese in the US and elsewhere. When the Jews had a chance to put together a viable living via agricultural occupations as in Israel, they did so with aplomb. And not only Israel. In his The Wealth of Nations, Adam Smith attributed much of the development of Brazil’s sugar industry and cultivation to the arrival of Portuguese Jews who were forced out of Portugal. And in ancient Babylonia there were quite large Jewish agricultural communities, until these were suppressed via taxation and other measures, after the Arab conquest.

    You say Germans prospered everywhere they went, true, but so did Jews and so did Chinese. And the wars against the Germans ere not “race” wars. This is laughable propaganda put forth by certain corporals. There is very little “racial” difference between Germans and their conquerors- white Americans, British and Russians- variation yes (what else is new) but no earth-shattering “racial” differences. And since when have Germans been “wiped off the mat?” This is even more laughable, unless you are equating “true Germans” with the long failed propaganda line put forth by the Austrian corporal.

  94. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    Thank you. I’m not happy to say that a lot of my ideas about Chinese probably come from “Noble House” and “Tai Pan” books. The Chang fellow sounds almost inmature, even if he’s made a killing. (I’m a different Anon from the one you originally answered to, sorry about that.)

  95. @Joe Wong

    The war between Chinese and the Vietnamese started long before white people showed up. The relationship is conquest, followed by rebellion. I would say that vietnam together with korea and Japan are part of the confucian civillisation, but not a part of China.

  96. Because of my Chinese ex-wife I follow your posts rather carefully.. you realize you could get in trouble for publishing points of view like this.. ;)

    L’Achiam!
    Capt. Roy Harkness

  97. @AaronB

    This is true. The Chinese don’t even really work that hard, for an East Asian country. I don’t think its such a bad thing, though – the ability to enjoy chaos helps one cope with change.

    It also means that less time is wasted on fake “overtime” where nothing much is actually being accomplished.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  98. AaronB says:
    @EnriiiqueCardovaa

    That’s a reasonable point, individualism may coexist in its earlier stages with collectivism.

    But it’s a process – I would say today Americans are far more atomized than they were in the 19th century, and it has lowered self confidence and led to demoralizing self-doubt.

    I was reading recently about the prisoner of war camps in the Korean War. A third of American soldiers signed confessions and cooperated with their captors, and many died from severe conditions – death in such situations is considered to be psychological – and their captors found it easy to create demoralizing leadership vacuums by seperating put the officers, who were not replaced.

    By contrast, the Koreans also had a large number of Turkish prisoners. None of them cooperated, and they survived almost to a man. Sick men would be spoon fed and closely tended by their comrades, and no matter how many times their officers were removed, the next lowest rank would become the leader.

    Not being hyper rationalistic, the Turks refused to be engaged in debate about values and responded with derision. Group unity made it easier to be self confident in their opinions. They were impervious to brainwashing.

    The Americans naively were willing to rationally analyze anything, and studies have shown that the first step in the brainwashing process is engaging the target in debate.

    The American Army concluded the released captives had serious character deficits and weak self identity and had been poorly indoctrinated in the values of their society.

    In short, they were merely reflections of American society, as the Turks were of theirs.

    Individualism and collectivism are absolute poles – most societies have some kind of balance between the two.

    The Japanese tend towards collectivism, famously, but you will find lots and lots of eccentrics and weird characters if you visit Japan, and the people can seem highly individually expressive in many situations and not the drab monotone many think, and Japanese culture has a tradition of eccentric Zen monks, wanderers, adventurers, roisterers, and sake swilling layabouts, that reveal a rich seam of anarchic individualism at the heart of Japanese society.

    The Chinese have a similar tradition – entire districts were crawling with eccentric hemits and recluses and wanderers, many of them former mandarins snd court officials.

    Regional identities merge into national identities – that’s not unique to the West. Happened in China too, and everywhere.

    But the centrifugal trend in America has recently been towards atomization and the breakup of any shared identity whatsoever, and the substitution of abstract principles in place of identity, principles that are negotiable and open to rational analysis.

    The result is that Americans live on quicksand, and are easy prey for any rogue with strong convictions.

    Of course American individualism had deep roots in Western culture and is not a “Jew product” – I dont agree with those silly people who think Jews alone created modern culture.

    You’d have to be really historically ignorant to believe that.

    But in overcoming modernity, it may make rhetorical and psychological sense for whites to “externalize” it as a creation of the Jews, and thus “non-white”, foreign, alien.

    Don’t underestimate the rhetorical uses of obvious untruths and the psychological role they may play in the revitalization of a nation. It’s called a “myth” – and they’re necessary lies based on an element of truth that reflect reality in a deeper way.

    Jews aligned themselves with modernity and unfairly exploited it, though they didn’t create it, and that gives the new myth resonance and symbolism.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Malla
  99. bandw says:
    @The Seneca Effect

    Very interesting observation. The Germans are also a pragmatic people.

  100. AaronB says:
    @Sherman

    Ah, too close for comfort :)

    Don’t worrh, my Jewish half-brother, when it is all over, you will feel a sense of relief. You had a good run, and for a while, you guys did well. But everything ends. Accept it gracefully.

  101. AaronB says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    . I don’t think its such a bad thing, though – the ability to enjoy chaos helps one cope with change

    And it just makes life more fun :) I admire that side of the Chinese character.

    Interesting point about working hours. That’s a good sign, that bullshit work isn’t socially necessary as a fiction.

  102. Culturally, I’ve always considered Vietnam as Southeast Asian, as do most Westerners, but my latest understanding is that the Vietnamese view themselves as bridging East and Southeast Asia – sort of like how the Czechs view themselves as a bridge between Core Europe and Eastern Europe. Most Vietnamese I’ve met tend to relate more to the Chinese rather than other SE Asians. Some of them downright look down at other SE Asians. One of them I knew has bothered to no end by the fact that Thailand was doing so much better than Vietnam economically (although this was back in the 90’s).

    • Replies: @Anon
  103. Interesting article. To be sure there are a lot of similarities as well as difference between the Chinese and the Jews. Some of their key similarities are:
    - both are good in business
    - both place high emphasis on education and family
    - both are clannish, though the Jews much more so than the Chinese
    - both tend to be the successful minority group wherever they land
    - both are dishonest and untrustworthy

    But the similarity ends there. IMO the single biggest difference between the Jews and the Chinese is this:

    The Jews are idealistic to a fault, while the Chinese are the exact opposite, pragmatic to a fault.

    The Jews started or dominated Judeo-Christianism, Marxism, Socialism, Communism, Zionism, Liberalism, Hedonism, Hippism, Tribalism, Cronyism, Neoconservatism, dominate Capitalism, basically invented every fecking -ism in the world, while the only -ism that stuck with the Chinese is Pragmatism.

    I think a lot of this is due to the Jewish intelligence being mainly verbal, while the Chinese intelligence being mainly spatial/mathematical.

    But this key difference is the reason why Jews tend to get involved in politics, the law, media, academia, while the Chinese tend to steer clear of those fields and concentrate in business or engineering. A perfect example is in Malaysia, where the Chinese have been highly discriminated for 5 decades, yet they rarely make a fuss, continue to keep their heads down, work hard, and look for ways to emigrate rather than try to get into politics to change their predicament. The Jews under similar circumstance would’ve organized and tried to take over the governments in these countries. Perhaps it’s as Alan Dershowitz said, Jews have Chutzpah, which makes them much more confrontational, while the Chinese eschew confrontations.

    • Replies: @EnrriqueCardova
    , @denk
  104. @The Seneca Effect

    Interesting comparisons between the Chinese and the Germans. To be sure they do have some similarities as you mentioned, especially with regards to their pragmatism. But there are also some major differences, for example:

    - the Chinese are known for their dishonesty, while the Germans are known for their honesty
    - Chinese societies are chaotic, dirty, loud, noisy, disorderly
    - German societies are clean, orderly, quiet, efficient
    - Germans are into precision, with great attention to details. Chinese are sloppy, and try to get away with whatever they can get away with
    - Germans are a lot more introverted than the Chinese. They make the Chinese look like Italians.

    I see a lot of parallels between the Germans and the Japanese.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  105. renfro says:
    @The Seneca Effect

    Amy Chua is married to a Jew, Jed Rubenfeld.

  106. utu says:
    @AaronB

    Do you remember the book name on American and Turkish POW’s during the Korean War?

    Long time ago I read a review of memoirs by Australian POW’s but now I can’t locate it. I remember that Australians found American individualistic behavior devoid of solidarity in POW camp despicable. It is interesting that the same behavior is extolled in Clavell’s novel King Rat where the ultimate surviver lives by wheeling and dealing that often exploits other prisoners.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  107. renfro says:
    @republic

    I cant find anything to certify that Alexandre de Rhodes was jewish born. OTOH He was quite against Jews and Judaism while in Asia, preaching that the Jews killed Christ and etc..

    Here’s the information.

    https://books.google.com/books?id=Yd_NBgAAQBAJ&pg=PT209&lpg=PT209&dq=Alexandre+de+Rhodes+not+jewish&source=bl&ots=O8-h_RHXd8&sig=kBquVU9Tlej8hju8hHr36svXeEY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiRycm3vJXZAhXqzIMKHb4EBMoQ6AEISjAI#v=onepage&q=Alexandre%20de%20Rhodes%20not%20jewish&f=false

  108. utu says:
    @EnriiiqueCardovaa

    You also say peasant types were mocked and scorned in Jewry. But this is dubious. Again, diasporan Jews were in many cases forbidden or discouraged from getting a land base. They had to go urban

    Not true. They had plenty opportunity to go into farming but never did. There is more profit in being a middle man than farmer.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  109. utu says:
    @Anonymous

    A good reason to support Israel!

    On Mars even better.

    • Replies: @Orwellian State
  110. Linh Dinh is a great writer and I love his personal insight, so I’ll add a little spice from my blog about Chinese.

    April 1, 2011 – Why South Vietnam Lost

    My blogs about Fletcher Prouty’s great book “JFK” failed to mention what he considered the key mistakes of the Vietnam war, which occurred before American combat forces arrived, when all decisions were made by the CIA. I found these interesting because few authors mention them, and none considered them vital:

    1. The CIA believed that French colonial rule must be immediately dismantled. While colonialism had evil roots, it had progressive elements. For example, the French established a justice system of provincial police and courts. While village chiefs handled local matters, the French colonial administration dealt with serious criminals, rural gangs, and resolved disputes between villages. As soon as the Americans arrived, they instantly deported all Frenchmen and fired thousands of supporting colonial Vietnamese police and support personnel. Nothing replaced their vital role, leaving the poorly trained and corrupt new South Vietnamese Army to deal with the resulting turmoil.

    2. Since China had become a communist state, all ethic Chinese in Vietnam were viewed as communist sympathizers. Ironically, the Chinese were the merchant class of Vietnam who operated a system of free trade. Villagers produced rice and mountain vegetables, which they traded for metal tools, medicine, and luxury items. Once the evil Chinese were deported, South Vietnam’s traditional system of trade halted. Villagers could not obtain basic items, while food shortages developed in cities while food rotted in rural areas because trade arrangements ended.

    3. People from North Vietnam are different from those in the South. They are taller and more Chinese in appearance, and speak with a different accent. After the split of North and South Vietnam in 1954, the USA installed an exiled Catholic, Ngo Dinh Diem, as President. The CIA thought it could weaken the North by arranging a mass exodus of “anti-communists” from the North. A million North Vietnamese were encouraged to flee southward after a massive propaganda campaign warned of life under communism. The USA devoted tremendous resources flying and shipping these people southward.

    These refugees were dumped in groups to form new villages in the South after the army seized private land. This angered the Southerners, while the old French court system no longer existed to resolve disputes. Most of the refugees were Catholics, whom Diem favored, so he awarded most government posts and military commands to these “foreigners.” Thus, the new South Vietnamese army was led by North Vietnamese, who settled rural disputes in favor of their fellow refugees. Finally, the new communist regime in the North used the chaotic exodus to send thousands of secret agents into the South, who landed jobs in the government and army.

    As a result of these actions, the American effort to create the nation of South Vietnam destroyed its established colonial judicial system, deported its Chinese traders, and imported a million Northerners who seized land and organized a corrupt government filled with communist agents. This turmoil provided millions of recruits for the Viet Cong revolutionaries, who most Southerners supported against the foreign dominated government and army of South Vietnam. The CIA solution was the formation of a huge army, which was filled by conscripts who were literally kidnapped from villages. This resulted in chaos, and the solution was — send in the U.S. Marines! No amount of American aid and military power could undo this political tragedy formulated by the CIA.

    Also, this video about the Chinese taking over Vancouver is of interest, and how the new immigrants have nothing in common with descendants of Chinese immigrants:

  111. Malla says:
    @MarkinPNW

    Yes I have seen Bezmenov’s video interviews. What is even more interesting is that the Soviet Union and many of it’s Eastern European satellites started rejecting some of the ugly art and culture destroying elements of the early Bolsheviks with time. This could be because of the rising power of Russians and other ethnics at the expense of Jews. This cultural phenomenon was called ‘Social Realism’. Ugly art was (similar to Cubism, modern art etc…) was rejected by healthy beautiful art even though the state message was Communism. While on the other hand the West was going in the opposite direction via phenomenon called ‘Cultural Marxism’, creating an ironical situation where the Communist East was now doing a better job of preserving many aspects of traditional European/Central Asian culture while in the West traditional European/Western society was under attack by the media, education system, judiciary etc… The CIA was actively trying to thwart this Social Realism movement. Imagine that. A supposedly free Christian country trying to thwart something like that.
    The soul of the Communist movement worldwide was always in the West, in the corridors of Wall street and early Jewish ghettos.

  112. SomeGuy says:
    @Anonymous

    Why anyone would want to interact with frigid primitive third world women that have cash registers for souls is beyond me…

  113. Malla says:
    @EnriiiqueCardovaa

    You also say peasant types were mocked and scorned in Jewry. But this is dubious. Again, diasporan Jews were in many cases forbidden or discouraged from getting a land base.

    You are wrong. Samuel Roth (himself) Jewish wrote in his book Jews Must Live in Chapter 6

    “This attitude of the Jews towards manual labor is historic. The Jewish apologists have a neat explanation for it. In most of the countries of the Diaspora the Jews were not permitted to own land or to work on it. Nor were they permitted to work for Christians. And since Jewish merchants could give employment only to a fraction of the great numbers of young Jews, the rest had to turn for careers to salesmanship, money-lending and the other promoting aspects of trade. This does not explain why Jews have never, like other peoples, gone into a wilderness and built up a land of their own. Nor why in England, in the thirteenth century, under Edward I, they did not take advantage of the offer by which Edward promised to give them the very opportunities Jews had been crying for for centuries.

    After imprisoning the whole Jewish population in his domain for criminal usury and
    debasing the coin of the realm, Edward, before releasing them, put into effect two new sets of laws: the first made it illegal for a Jew in England to lend money at interest. The second repealed all the standing laws which kept Jews from the normal pursuits of the kingdom. Under these new statutes Jews could even lease land for a period of fifteen years and work it. Edward advanced this as a test of the Jew’s sincerity when he claimed that all he wanted was an opportunity to work like other people. If they proved their fitness to live like other people, the inference was that Edward would let them buy land outright and admit them to the higher privileges of citizenship. Did the Jews take advantage of Edward’s decree? This way. To get around the laws against usury they invented such new methods of skinning the peasants and the nobles that the outcry against them became greater than ever, and Edward had to expel them to avert a civil war. It was not recorded that one Jew took advantage of the new right to till the soil.”

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  114. SomeGuy says:
    @AaronB

    If they speak English they must’ve learned from jews.

    Having lived in China, Chinese people generally lack morals and ethics, which gives some an edge eventually wherever they go as lots of them can grind work relentlessly as well with little desire for western luxuries like entertainment, culture or even sex beyond the occasional pay for play.

    Business deals usually resemble bait and switch scams where what you see / what was promised is never what you get and everything has to be reneged later on at a higher price.

    Needless to say, places where everybody jews each other hard are shitty ones to live in so they migrate elsewhere where they can make use of people that have better social norms.

    Typical shylock type behavior that got Chinese people shoa’d more than once:

    http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/vietnamese-tourist-kneels-and-begs-for-refund-of-iphone-6-at-sim-lim-square-0

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  115. Truth says:
    @AaronB

    As for Jews, their communal and home life is very conservative,

    You sure you’re feeling OK?

    • Replies: @Malla
  116. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    Most Vietnamese I’ve met tend to relate more to the Chinese rather than other SE Asians. Some of them downright look down at other SE Asians.

    Asian view them SEAsian, not East Asian or Chinese, although i notice most of their elites are Chinese ethics like Thailand. And they are quite smart and technology savvy, but mostly can’t or speak poor English. Thailand is definitely more advance than Viet.

    You may be mixing with only those rich educated one in US. I haven’t come across any average Vietnamese(i mix with a big group) look down on SE Asians or want to have slightest link to China they hate, as Vietnam is still in such poverty compare to most SE Asians, numerous poor girls still dreaming to marry out. Of course there are always exceptional few due to character, while some rich one will look down practically on anyone.

    In Singapore & Malaysia, there are shops where Vietnamese young girls sit and let old men select as wife for a small fees. And many young one still work as illegal prostitute in SEAsia out of poverty like Thai.

  117. Malla says:
    @Orwellian State

    Could we say
    Japanese=Northern Europeans
    Chinese=Mediterranean Europeans
    Vietnamese=Turks
    Other South East Asians=Arabs/Middle Easterners
    Papuans/Aboriginal Australians=Sub Saharan Africans

    Strange parallels if we go North to South in the European longitude zone and the East Asian longitude zone.
    Of course where does one put Koreans? Mongols? Siberians in Russia? Ainu?
    And is these any such difference in between Northern and Southern Chinese. Many early European traders wrote of Northern Chinese being more honest and introvert than Southern Chinese. Any truth in this?
    The Indian subcontinent would be akin to South America with India being the Brazil.

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  118. Malla says:
    @Anon

    No, what I really meant is that if you talk with people in the streets of India or in one of our elite engineering institutes, that is what you will hear, that India is a peaceful country and never invaded anybody but is repeated eyed jealously by foreigners like the British, Mughals, Pakistanis, Chinese etc… All states have state propaganda and brainwash their own citizens in tha propaganda. Even the Western governments do that but a bigger percentage of people in the West criticize and question the actions of their own countries.

    Name me an example China Hans had invaded and occupied another country in past few hundreds years.

    Well Chine did invade Vietnam in the past.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War

    It bullied Vietnam as far as the Spartly Islands are concerned

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson_South_Reef_Skirmish

    I am not saying China does not have an explanation for the above but the Chinese nationalists should realize that Vietnam has it’s own interest and so does India and calling the exercise of such interests as being a sucker to ‘Imperialists’ is plain wrong. Similarly Bangladesh, Sri Lanka etc… have their own interests as sovereign powers and if they want better relationships with the PRC, they have the right to. Indian nationalists do not understand this.

    Also Chinese nationalists being brought up on Communist theory throw the word Imperialist around but they would be aghast to know that Indian media calls the Chinese as evil Imperialists.
    The Chinese are not the only ones who can throw that term around.

    http://www.timesnownews.com/international/article/cpec-obor-protestors-opposition-gilgit-baltistan-disputed-territory/61044

    ‘Chinese Imperialism’: CPEC faces stiff opposition from protesters in Gilgit

    https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/defence/after-obor-gets-ready-pakistan-will-become-chinas-colony-s-akbar-zaidi/articleshow/59100114.cms

    After OBOR gets ready, Pakistan will become China’s colony: S Akbar Zaidi

    I think comparing the OBOR with imperialism is a bit far fetched, I am not saying calling China Imperialist is completely justified, am just saying that the term imperialist can be thrown around by non Chinese too and against the PRC itself.

    Besides that China did interfere in Africa against the Portuguese Empire, Rhodesia and South Africa. You might say that China was helping exploited people fight exploiters, but the reality on the ground was very different. Anyways Communist China had no right to interfere in a place so far away into the activities of other sovereign powers.
    I will provide links to this in connected post.

    And since India gotten independent, how many states and countries it has invaded? I read its 50 over princely states, true? After Sikkin, its Bhutan & Bangladesh literally, then trying to control Nepal, Sri Lanka and Maldives now. Still fighting Pakistan and China for more lands which India no need.

    I am not denying India does behave in an imperialist fashion. India did absorb the Kingdom of Sikkim but as far as Pakistan is concerned, after the liberation of Bangladesh, India did not absorb Bangladesh. I do not see India conquering Pakistan land. Indeed India returned land it had conquered from Pakistan back to Pakistan, land conquered by the Indian army in earlier Indo Pakistan wars. India repeatedly blames Pakistan for interfering in Indian Kashmir and China supports Pakistan. How can China which blames the whole world for interfering in it’s internal affairs as far as Tibet and Xinjiang are concerned, support a country Pakistan which India accuses of interfering in it’s own internal affairs??

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    , @Malla
    , @TT
  119. Malla says:
    @Malla

    Check this out, PRC interference in Africa.

    From

    https://archive.org/stream/TheSiegeOfSouthernAfrica/siege_djvu.txt

    A prominent Black leader in, South Africa, Chief Kaizer Matanzima of the Transkei, also warned African States supporting terrorism to “mind their own business”, and all responsible Black men in Southern Africa, knowing well that they are the potential victims of “liberation”, feel like this, and often say so. Chief Gatsha Buthelezi even made himself highly unpopular in Communist quarters by his remark and was the object of organized hostile student demonstrations when he visited Dar es Salaam, the Chinese headquarters in Africa and the base of Chinese arms supply.

    …snip….

    One was the regrouping of the tribespeople in protected villages, and I saw many of them along this road and later in the east and southeast, where other Chinese-motivated and Soviet-motivated groups of terrorists still made desultory forays across the border. The aldeamentos, or protected villages, were a good answer to the menace in one way: they did guard the people from the arsonists and abductors who plagued them when they lived in isolated groups. A disadvantage is
    that the Black tribesman clings tenaciously to the soil he knows, however perilous, and dislikes to be separated by distance from his land.

    …snip….

    In Angola they are engaged, as they well know, in a war which they cannot militarily win because it is not a war at all, in any sense in which the word was ever used in history. It is an international conspiracy in which half the governments of the world join, wearing the mocking mask of moral indignation: Russian and Chinese Communists, American Quakers, British Socialists, Norwegian,
    Swedish and German Socialists.
    It can go on as long as hireling murderers can be enlisted by the promise of loot, women, private vengeance and political appointments. It can go on as long as America, Russia, China, “the satellite States”, Cuba and Algeria flood Africa with arms for these hirelings, and as long as the Socialist party in England and the Roosevelt school in America lavish
    money on them.

    …snip….

    I was able to travel through and to fly over the area called Centenary (I never learned which centenary: Rhodesia is not a hundred years old) on the north-western border where the hired killers with their landmines and weapons were galvanized into sudden activity by their Chinese masters in far-off, safe Lusaka and Dar-es-Salaam in late 1973 and early 1974.

    …snip….

    I wondered too whether any Chinese ever asked themselves why their country was killing people, unknown to them, thousands of miles away. If any do so, they presumably find the answer in the Thoughts of Chairman Mao. Around this hospital, on the bare ground, lay the families of these amputees. They dared not return to their villages, if anything remained of them, so they came to Tete and lay down on the ground around the hospital, hoping, I supposed, that food and shelter might some day, somehow, reach them.

    Thus the weapons, the worldwide clamour of chiefs and elders and the slavish mob, the troops (not the wretched Bakongo and Maconde killers but the thirty thousand Chinese so far assembled as railway workers, technical advisers and the like) in Zambia and Tanzania, the whole machine of the liberalist world revolution has been set up for the purposes of destroying Mozambique and extending the territory of the world revolution in Africa. But what of the other essential: money!

  120. Malla says:
    @Malla

    More
    BTW Cabora Bassa project was a dam being built by the Portuguese Empire in Mozambique part of it’s project to modernize Mozambique further.

    https://archive.org/stream/TheSiegeOfSouthernAfrica/siege_djvu.txt

    On Mozambique

    Above all, they have calmly gone ahead with the Cabora Bassa project, one of the greatest hydro-electric undertakings in the world. This place, when I was there, was already one of the wonders of the world, with machines like prehistoric monsters crawling along miles of lit streets burrowed through the mountain. Work was ahead of schedule and is due to be completed in 1975, when Mozambique hopes to supply services to its African neighbours.

    Cabora Bassa is only a few miles from Tete, the most dangerous area of Mozambique, but work went on there as if all the world were at peace. Cabora Bassa is said to be strongly guarded, though no open signs of this meet the traveller’s eyes. It has never yet been attacked by the murder gangs: whether from fear or by order of their Chinese masters, who might hope to take it over intact when world revolution day strikes, is anybody’s guess. The lake, when full, will stretch 155 miles to the Zambian border. Some with whom I spoke thought that this great stretch of water would prove to be a great hindrance to the murder gangs in their activities. Others, nearer to the menace, were less optimistic.

    …snip….

    His public exhortations to violence and revolutionary methods caused him to remove himself to Dar-es-Salaam, the Chinese-Russian invasion port in East Africa, where he found himself in congenial company with those whom one writer calls “the cream of Africa’s revolutionaries”, and whom I would call the scum of Africa.

    …snip….

    These emissaries infiltrate into the Ovambo villages by night and disturb and incite the tribespeople, particularly the young men, with tales of coming invasions patronized by the House of Helots in New York (U.N.) and limitlessly supplied with Chinese and Russian arms. The leftist-liberal world conspiracy has reached into this remote and peaceful pastoral community.

    …snip…

    The mighty gun-power of China and Russia is trained against them, and so is the vast moneypower of America (which paid for Russian and Chinese armaments in the first place and seems itself to be drifting toward a Communist takeover). In the operations room at the House of Helots (U.N.) the attack on South West (today’s Namibia) is next on the drawing board.

  121. Da Wei says:
    @Anonymous

    Hatred of Jews? There is no hatred in this writing.
    Have you had a jewish bud? Or jewish girlfriend? Besides being overly personal, this question is sophomoric, ’cause pokin’ don’t make you smarter. Would that somehow obviate the cogency of this paragraph? This is true:

    “As smart and successful immigrants to be found in many countries, Chinese and Jews have often been compared, but there are many key differences between them. Unlike Jews, Chinese are not dominant in media, education, government or banking in their host countries. Native children are not taught to despise themselves for having wronged the Chinese, and Chinese don’t produce or host television or radio shows that mock the locals. There is no Chinese Howard Stern or Jerry Springer. Unlike Israel, the Chinese’ ancestral homeland’s survival is not dependent on the support of a heavily manipulated and indoctrinated client state.”

    Now, in instant replay, here is the knockout punch:

    “Can you imagine American kids being taught that their nation’s biggest menace is not Putin, Islamic patsies or Mexican busboys, but the machinations of Israel?”

    Please, do not whine that these sentiments emanate from hatred. You are probably an intelligent person and should know that drawing conclusions and anticipating conduct based on past experience and probability do not constitute racism or antisemitism. And if they do, then we need to rethink our condemnation of racism and antisemitism. Maybe they are natural consequences of living with others and wanting to survive.

    You know what they would call “racial profiling” in China? Common Sense. You know what they would call you if you didn’t “profile”? Stupid.

    I suggest you rethink Sartre’s Anti-Semite and Jew in this context. That petit book can lead your head up your ass with its insistence on affirming every person’s moral freedom by not objectifying their essence. Or, by not making yourself an object by wearing hatred for the other on your shirt sleeve. Sure, you take each individual as you find him, but don’t let that make you stupid, and it can if you take Sartre as your guide.

    Sitting in a French coffee shop with a lesbian and a cigarette wouldn’t impress on anyone the need for conclusions — say conclusions about jews — that wasn’t essentially ambivalent. There was a reason Edward I kicked all jews out of England. He made a sweeping command for the common good and he had common sense.

  122. @EnriiiqueCardovaa

    Actually, the german population of eastern Europe has been cleansed of the map.

    Those who were not massacred or driven out directly after the war were relocated in the 80ies and 90ies.

    There is some talk of three million dead german civilians in eastern Europe immediately after the war, but that is certainly propaganda put forth by adherents of the Austrian corporal.

    So move on, there is nothing to see here.

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  123. Whoever says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    I recommend a very adroit book on the jewish question by Sartre.

    Do you mean Réflexions sur la question juive? I think it only applied to the situation in France in the first half of the 20th century. It’s a relic of a by-gone time and place.

  124. Sam J. says:
    @Anonymous

    “…I recommend a very adroit book on the jewish question by Sartre…”

    Forget him. What you need is a few article by Revilo Oliver.

    http://www.revilo-oliver.com/rpo/wwoop.htm

    http://www.heretical.com/oliver/js07.html

    • Replies: @Malla
  125. Sam J. says:
    @mcohen

    “…vietnam war was started primarily to grab oil resources in the gulf of tonkin…”

    I wish people wouldn’t say such silly things. If you remember the times the Commies were attacking all over the planet. They had multiple thousands of nuclear weapons pointed at the US and Europe and had publicly proclaimed they would bury the West. Now even the most simple, fleeting look at a map will show you that Vietnam was an important place geopoliticaly sitting aside the South Sea trade routes. I can state without any quibbles at all that if the US had not fought n Vietnam then large parts of South East Asia would have been lost to the Commies. During the time we were fighting in Vietnam the other countries around the area were fighting off their own Commie insurgencies. Some even won. Now there’s a lot of White bashing about the US bombing this and that, I’m not counting the present as it’s all because the Jews control the country, but just exactly what did the Commies do? Serve everyone tea? No they were some of the most horrendous killers ever on planet earth. As bad as we evil Whites are would you rather live in North Korea…forever?

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    , @TT
    , @TT
  126. Sam J. says:
    @EnriiiqueCardovaa

    “…Trump who has been hailed as a “redeemer” figure by many…”

    Cause it is likely Hillary would have been worse. It’s not that’s he’s good it’s that he’s not quit as bad. Not that I’m a big booster of his. It would not surprise me a bit if he was just another person put up by the Jews to do more mischief.

    I did have hopes though…dashed. Everything he’s done so far was nothing more than jeb would have done. Far as I could tell maybe we would have been better off with jeb. jeb is probably too incompetent to get up to too much trouble.

  127. Sam J. says:
    @AaronB

    This is a very good comment. Very, very good and quite right. In order to fight the situation we’re in a certain amount of pigheadedness is needed. I no longer give a damn about individualism or fairness until we can get a country to ourselves. Until then I care about my people first.

    I love how you’ve constrained a vast amount of critical thought into such a small space.

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  128. Malla says:
    @EnriiiqueCardovaa

    But who says Americans are overly rationalistic?

    I can understand your point, you are correct. You keep on posting how the Whites are just as bad as anybody. But compared to the standards of the rest of the world where clannishness is basic norm, Western societies and peoples have shown more incidents of self criticism than most other societies.

    For example the kind of immigration seen in the UK for example since WW2 would BE IMPOSSIBLE in India. If the numbers (as a percentage of original population) of racially different people would be allowed immigration in India, years ago (in a much earlier stage of population importation), there would have been riots in the streets, the politicians responsible found and hunted down, the party which allowed so many outsiders would never win in the next 60 years. A local version of the BNP (British Nationalist Party) would have won land slide victories in elections. Hell our present ruling party the BJP (Bharatiya Janata Party) is not that different from the BNP and the BNP may even be milder in comparison. Hardcore BJP ites (like the poster Singh on Unz) openly call for massacring all Muslims and Christians and cleansing our holy land of these vermin.

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  129. Malla says:
    @Orwellian State

    Very true, it is the Japanese who the most similar to Anglo-Teutons-Scandinavians.
    However when compared to most Asians outside North East Asia (South East Asians, Indian subcontinentals, Middle Easterners) the Chinese are really comparable to Germans. The rest of the people of Asia are even more chaotic, dirty, noisy and disorderly.
    The Bhutanese are quite an orderly, clean, honest and gentlemanly people and by Middle Eastern standards, Iranians are more disciplined. I do not know how Iranians compare with the Chinese in orderliness and lack of ‘tragedy of the commons’. I do not know how Central Asians like the Uzbeks, Kyrgyz etc… compare as well. How do the Uighurs compare to the Han withing the PRC in such civilized characteristics?

  130. Malla says:
    @AaronB

    As an Indian living in a collectivist society, your analysis is spot on. One of the many reasons I support White nationalism is because I find it unfair and unjust that the individualistc, rationalistic, universalist people are the one’s suffering the risk of loss of land and even genocide while the clannish, collectivist, racist (yes, we non Whites are super racist but your libtard crackpot will not accept that) non Whites are getting an advantage.

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    , @Singh
  131. Jon Orton says:
    @Anonymous

    Recording truisms isn’t hate. It’s observation.

  132. Malla says:
    @neutral

    What I was told is that the Southern Chinese look a lot like Vietnamese but it is much easier to make out a Northern Chinese from a Vietnamese.

  133. Malla says:
    @Anon

    Very good comprehensive analysis and I agree Communism did play a role needed at that time. But there is a teeeny weeny problem here.
    Communism was itself pushed on East Asians by internationalist bankers.

    Andrei Fursov talks about Joseph Stalin’s reluctance to create Communist China and how the Rockefellers wanted it.

    More on this

    https://lipstick-and-war-crimes.org/mao-yale-man-rothschilds-create-peoples-republic-china/

    Mao Was a Yale Man – Rothschilds Create People’s Republic of China

    https://wideawakegentile.wordpress.com/2013/12/18/jews-in-china-mao-era/

    CHINAS “REVOLUTIONARY” JEWS

    https://wideawakegentile.wordpress.com/2014/06/07/chinese-communism-yes-but-it-was-jewish-when-it-started/

    CHINESE COMMUNISM? YES BUT IT WAS JEWISH WHEN IT STARTED

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    , @Malla
  134. Malla says:
    @Malla

    The spread of Communism in East Asia/ Eastern Europe and nearly all anti colonial movements including the Indian Independence Movement by the Indian national Congress were at the end of the day a work of powerful elites behind the scenes. Their aim was to destroy the European empires especially the British Empire, strangely this movement was directed from London itself.

    Nesta Webster wrote

    The Bolsheviks lost no time in getting into touch with the leaders of the Kuomintang. In China, as in Ireland, in India and in Egypt, they pursued the same policy of exploiting Nationalism for their own purpose, namely the destruction of the British Empire. In 1920 Lenin said that it was in China that the British Empire would be overthrown, and the Kuomintang, like Sinn Fein (Ireland), Swaraj (India) and the Wafd (Egypt), was the instrument ready made to their hands. For the three principles of Sun-Yat-Sen — ^Nationalism, Democracy, Socialism — they had of course nothing but contempt, especially as, according to their view, ” Sun-Yat-Sen’s Socialism was of an absolutely inoffensive, and also quite futile nature.” ^ But his xenophobia could be turned to account.
    Meanwhile the pure doctrines of Bolshevism were being spread in China, by Siag Sea Fu, pamphlet published by the Communist Party if Great Britain instilled into Chinese minds by the agents of Moscow. Agitators were trained at the Communist University of Tashkent. Communist groups were formed in Peking and Shanghai, Marxist evening classes were held in Canton. In 1921 the Chinese Communist Party was founded in Shanghai ; by the following year Canton had become the hub of the movement. Through all this. Western inspiration was clearly visible, as for example in the Appeal to Seamen issued in 1922 by the Communist Party of Canton, where the passage occurs ;

    In China as elsewhere the leadership of the revolutionary movement was thus largely in the hands of foreigners or of Chinese who had received a foreign education. This was the case with the three men, Gallent, Borodin and Chen, who carried on the campaign against Britain in Canton after the death of Sun-Yat-Sen on March 12, 1925.
    Gallent or Galen, who has now assumed the name of Blucher, was a Russian general, dispatched by Moscow, of whom the Bolsheviks still have great hopes as a leader. Jacob Borodin, alias Michael Grusenberg, was a more complex character. First heard of in Spain, where he had been sent by the Third International to carry on propaganda, he reappeared during the following year in Mexico and the United States, where he became known as a leading agitator. In 1922 he was smuggled into England as an ” underground ” agent to act as adviser to the British Communist Party. In August of the same year he was arrested under the name of George Brown in Glasgow, sentenced to six months’ imprisonment and subsequently deported. Borodin then passed into the service of Sun-Yat-Sen, and was appointed Chief Adviser to the Government of Canton, where he received his salary regularly from the Soviet Embassy.
    Borodin’s colleague Mr. Eugene Chen, the Cantonese Foreign Minister, appears to have been a real Chinese, but born in 1878 under the British flag in Trinidad, where he was known under the name of E. Bernard Acham (or Ackam). Later he came to England and qualified as a solicitor in London.He seems to have been living in Richmond when he suddenly made up his mind to go and “ help China.”
    What influences brought him to this decision have never been revealed, but it is interesting to note, that like many an Indian agitator, it was in England, to which he owed all his advantages of education and training, that he became the enemy of our too hospitable country. On his arrival in China he entered Government service, and during the War edited certain Peking newspapers in one of which, the People’s Tribune, he daily vilified the British as “ brutal murderers, robbers, exploiters and liars.” In 1919 he joined Sun-Yat-Sen’s Party, and in 1922 became Foreign Adviser to the Canton Government,

    ..snip….

    Soviet Government and instructions issued to Borodin and Gallent.^ Minutes of other meetings of the Polit Bureau and the Military Council of China were found, with discussions on the funds required for carrying on the campaign. One document, marked “ Strictly confidential,” contained instructions to the Soviet Embassy from Moscow, saying : ” Stir up the mob to violence against Europeans in general, and the British in particular.” In Peking, as in London and elsewhere, it was clearly shown that the Bolsheviks were abusing diplomatic privileges by making the Soviet Embassy a centre of intrigue and revolutionary propaganda.

    …snip….

    We cannot allow the Communists to make China the experimental field for Communism and cause millions to die without reason. The tactics of the Bolsheviks are to stir up mob violence through wholesale destruction in order to seize political power. . , , If we allow their horrible politics to prevail all will be brought to nought.
    (This was written before WW2, millions in China did die as it became an experimental field for communism!!!)

    ….snip….

    . which displays its moral superiority by assuming in every difference with another country that England must be in the wrong, and that the opponent is therefore entitled to sympathy and support. The influence of this type of denationalised idealism may be dearly traced, since the beginning of the century, in the wanton sacrifice of British interests at many a vital point, most notably in India, Egypt and Ireland.*

    Mr. Bland locates this school of thought at present largely in the Round Table Group, Chatham House (the Royal Institute of International Affairs) and the League of Nations Union.

    …snip….

    The following is an extract from a letter received by the present writer in 1925 from a British official in the East :
    I take a very serious view of the intrigues of the ” Round Table ” and ” Fabian Society ” amongst the superior Civil Services of the Crown. I have for some time past been doing all in my power to combat this evil, but with no success, as the “ Round Table ” is now very strongly represented in High Places in official life and in Parliamentary circles : and practically holds any Government in its power which is in any way dependent on this particular class of permanent official, combined with the political Zionists in maintaining the Party in position. I have just retired from where I have been the last five years . . . and have seen and felt— -very much to my cost — the power wielded by these two pernicious bodies working together.

    …snip….

    The paralysis that has afflicted every Government in turn may in part be produced by a group of political ” Idealists,” in the main sincere, but not unsusceptible to dangerous guidance. I find it difficult, however, to believe that such institutions as the Round Table Group, Chatham House, the League of Nations Union or even the Fabian Society — which has certainly succeeded in penetrating the Ministries and the whole Civil Service — could, unless in alliance with financial power, exercise so decisive an influence on the councils of the nation and bend statesmen of every party to their will. More potent causes for the suicidal tendencies of the British Empire must be at work — the Hidden Hand operates under many disguises.

  135. Malla says:
    @Malla

    And check out what David Rockefeller said about Communist China, the creation of which, his banking oligarchic family had pushed for.

    “Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution, it has obviously succeeded, not only in producing more efficient and dedicated administration, but also in fostering a high morale and community propose. The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao’s leadership is one of the most important and successful in human history.”

    – David Rockefeller, New York Times, 1973

  136. SomeGuy says:
    @byrresheim

    >Those who were not massacred or driven out directly after the war were relocated in the 80ies and 90ies.

    I grew up with those “Germans” from Russia who relocated in the 80s due to the better economy in Germany and they were about as German as I’m Russian.

    Their docs were either fake or a German was in their family many generations ago.

    Their kids also hated Germans just like turkroaches, go figure…

    My father was a real German however from former Bohemia, now Czech Republic. They were made to leave right after WW2, lots of them died and their fellow Germans didn’t want them in Germany and gave them a hard time.

    History is pretty much a shit sandwhich for most people it seems.

  137. neutral says:
    @Malla

    I would agree in principle but I would adjust it a bit.
    Japanese=Aryans
    Chinese/Koreans=Central European/Slavs
    Vietnamese=Mediterranean Europeans
    Other South East Asians=Turks
    Indonesian=Arabs
    Papuans/Aboriginal Australians=Sub Saharan Africans
    Indians=Cannot compare to anything, they are Indians for both sides.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Singh
    , @Duke of Qin
  138. Sam J. says:
    @EnriiiqueCardovaa

    “…How so? When the Jews encountered the collectivist societies like in the Ottoman Empire, etc etc, they pretty much, like the Chinese in their own sphere, ran the same plays, and did not do too badly overall….”

    Here’s what happened to the Jews when they went to China.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaifeng_Jews

    The Chinese literally swallowed them up. Gone. Done. Ground into Chinese dust. Now they all are doing all they can to move to Israel because their power in China is…nothing, zilch.

  139. Sam J. says:
    @Anon

    “…Vietnam was poor and backward…. So, everything had to be built from scratch based on a new template. A more radical approach was needed than fascism that seeks a balance of tradition and modernity…”

    Good point and a good post. Made me think.

  140. anarchyst says:
    @Sam J.

    The Vietnam was was an INVASION by the North Vietnamese communists. South Vietnamese and American forces fought this conflict with one hand tied behind their backs, because they were not permitted to go into the areas where the enemy planning and logistics was taking place. Despite these restrictions, South Vietnamese and American troops prevailed in every battle in Vietnam, but here in the USA, it was a totally different story. The American “(communist) mainstream media”, communists and their “fellow travelers” blamed the American military for the prosecution of the war. Communist Walter Cronkite’s declaration that “the American military lost the war” despite the successes in the failed North Vietnamese Tet offensive proved that the American “mainstream media” could not be trusted. Us Vietnam veterans were considered “baby killers”, “loose cannons”, “mentally defective”, and were vilified and blamed for the war itself. Job opportunities that were supposed to be earmarked for returning Vietnam veterans never materialized. It is curious to note that as soon as the draft was abolished, he “anti-war” movement dissipated. These anti-war protesters (along with their chickenhawk political opportunists) were only concerned about one thing–”saving their own skins”–nothing more. There was no concern for the tens of thousands of “boat people” risking life and limb to escape that communist “paradise”.
    Ken Burns’ “documentary” on the Vietnam war praised the communist invaders while denigrating American and South Vietnamese troops. He inadvertently “let it slip” about the TRUTH of the communist “re-education” camps and system. Despite claims by the communists that “re-education” would last only about six months or so, South Vietnamese patriots were imprisoned by the communists for as long as 20 YEARS. Ken Burns is just another communist sympathizer.

  141. Malla says:
    @neutral

    Good one. But how are Central European/Slavs not Aryans in a genetic sense?
    I guess you mean from behaviour/ honesty etc…, in that case only WASPs are Aryans.

  142. AaronB says:
    @utu

    Sure utu,

    Peter Watson – war on the mind
    Denise Win – the manipulated mind
    James c. Scott – domination and the arts of resistance.

    All discuss the Korean war prisoner situation, if somewhat briefly. All fascinating books in their own right.

    Available for download at gen.lib.rus.ec

  143. AaronB says:
    @SomeGuy

    I’m sure they adapt their tactics to the situation. There is no “Chinese style” of doing business anymore than there is a “Jewish style” (in the immutable unchanging sense. In the proximate sense there very much is).

    Local conditions dictate your tactics, and what is possible.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  144. AaronB says:
    @Sam J.

    Thanks, Sam, I appreciate it.

    Yes, you have to have a certain amount of pigheadedness as it were. Certain questions are off the table. Not everything gets analyzed. If someone tries – don’t even engage in debate! By agreeing to debate, in some situations, you have conceded defeat. Every good salesman knows that, and exploits it.

    Rationality is vastly overrated. It’s a tool – don’t let it control you.

    Whites have to relearn the arts of being successful human beings, not just machines that invent machines. And they will – necessity will see to that.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  145. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @anarchyst

    Ken Burns was funded by Koch to remind you about the commies. Before Burns, Stanley Karnow did the same thing. His was a more thorough history, but he was careful enough not to leave out the commies. By the 1980s, commies were all the rage again. The Vietnam war was being touched up and re-written. Karnow wrote about the lying liars of this era later.

    You seem to be completely confused about everything Vietnam. Congratulations. The only way to win a war is to decisively defeat the public’s perception of it. The collective must understand it properly without any of the wrong ideas. COMMIE!

    • Agree: bluedog
  146. Malla says:
    @Truth

    You sure you’re feeling OK?

    I guess he means Hasidic Jews/Ultra orthodox Jews. Liberal Jews are definitely not conservative, indeed they have played a big part in destroying conservatism and they themselves got infected by the liberal disease they helped spread on others. Some Jews like Prager are trying to right that wrong.

  147. AaronB says:
    @EnriiiqueCardovaa

    Sure, they aren’t a Chinese or Jewish monopoly. Tactics transcend frontiers. Nothing is set in stone.

    Whites have certainly used these tactics in the past, and there are probably some who still do today.

    I am talking in generalities, and largely, focusing on the post WW2 situation. Western culture was/is on a trajectory – a trend, a process, a line of developement. Today, whites tend not to use these tactics, because they don’t fit so well in a nationalistic framework, or an individualistic one. In the 19th century, they used them more, but individualism was already gaining momentum.

    We don’t know if the Chinese would try and dominate and undermine local culture in AS Asia if they could. That they haven’t tried that in America yet means nothing. A precondition for trying that is that you closely resemble the local population – they do in SEA, not in America . Plus, in America that niche is occupied by a non-individualistic, non hyper-nationalistic group. So the Chinese would be competing again a collectivist group that more closely resembles and understands the host population.

    There are some signs that the Chinese do undermine host population self-confidence in SEA. In Thailand, where I’ve done business, the locals despise their brown skin and use whitening cream to try and look more like their overlords. Skinny Chinese guys with glasses are prized by local women.

    At least Americans are left with enough self confidence to not try and look like Jews and Jewish men aren’t widely desired.

    So, there are clear analogiez, and clear differences.

    As for Jews in the Ottoman empire, there simply isn’t any comparison. They did well, but were not nearly as dominant as they are in America, or were in Germany before the war. Which pretty much proves my point, not yours.

    Jews achieved greater dominance among a host population that was scientifically and technologically advanced because related to that comes hyper-rationality and atomization. You would think that Jews would be much dominant among the backward Ottomans. But the reverse is the case. Which proves my point.

    Sure, the common American man isn’t as rationalistic or as individualistic as the intellectual elite. But we are ruled by our elites, not the common man, and elite attitudes filter down to the masses. The common American man today is confused and demoralized by his elites.

    What made the WASP elite, a larger and certainly higher IQ group than Jews (a white “elite” would have a higher IQ than the Jewish “average” – based on mean group IQ and population numbers. And would vastly outnumber them. Do the math. Episcopalians alone, only one section of the white elite, have the same mean IQ as Jews), no match for the collectivist and non-rational tactics of Jews when the question was one of gaining social power and not producing machines, was the atomization and hyper-rationalism that the record shows was the theme of of elite American culture. Which also sapped motivation and morale – the very desire to hold on to power against determined and collective attacks.

    • Replies: @Anon
  148. Malla says:
    @Malla

    Come to think of it, there is not much difference in between Trotskyites and Neo Cons.
    The trotsyites wanted to spread ‘revolution’ throughout the world.
    The neo-cons want to spread ‘democracy’ throughout the world. The change was not that hard. The same games are being played but with different uniforms.

  149. AaronB says:
    @Malla

    Thanks.

    Yes, but it was a self inflicted wound for whites. And it did give whites tremendous advantages over the collectivist races – for a time. It allowed for the creation of technology, which allowed them to dominate the world for a time.

    Let’s not whitewash whites :)

    Over time, the source of white strength became the source of white weakness. It went too far and undermined itself. Anything carried too far undermines itself eventually.

    Whites, at the moment may indeed need to “whitewash” themselves as part of the process of recovery and because their enemies take advsntage. The erection of a new white myth is a healthy and necessary part of revitalization.

    If the new myth is one of relative balance – it strikes a mean between racial pride and racial self-loathing, when historically all group myths are ones of excessive racial pride. (as you say, this is characteristic of non white groups today. We see this on this forum) – then perhaps the last gasp of Western exceptionalism will have brought into the world something genuinely new. Western “progress” will have vindicated itself in its last gasp :)

    We can hope.

  150. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    Jew weren’t competing with Turks, though, they were competing with Greeks and Armenians.

  151. @EnriiiqueCardovaa

    LOL. Okay, bro. You got me.

    I’ve only got a few minutes – but next time you’re in Tel Aviv, take a walk through Rabin Square. You’ll see an ugly monument to the Holocaust by Yigal Tumarkin, an inverted pyramid. That pyramid represents what the great Zionist Ber Borochov said about the Jews (specifically Ashkenazis) in exile – that unlike other nations, theirs had no peasant base, and so was unwieldy and bizarre and unproductive. Like most early Zionists, and unlike most keyboard defenders of the Jews, he didn’t make excuses for his people.

    And as a bonus, since you’ve apparently never heard of degermanization campaigns, you can find a small example just by making a jaunt across town to the once flourishing agricultural community of Sarona. Peel yourself a juicy Jaffa orange and find out what happened there.

    • Replies: @Tumarkin
  152. Che Guava says:

    Daniel,

    I like your comment about overtime.

    … but I think employees of Foxconn and others do not like doing it, but are forced to.

    In Japan, the notoriously long working hours are something of a myth. One place I worked many years ago, major, I had to work very late one night to meet a deadline for programming. I finish, come out, it is after 9.30 p.m., the office still half full of people, they are not working but socialising or playing with their computers.

    That phenom., many other similar before and since, it is just loneliness and not wanting to go home, but was the latest hour I was seeing it.

    Do not want to be in the office so late!

    Many interesting comments on this thread, yours included, many questions on some of the points from me, but I will only leaving one.

    I see that the Wikipedia claims that the Vietnamese language is ‘austro-asian’. Sure, I can hear the phonological similarities to Thai. The grammar seems to make that claim wrong,

    I am not understanding the Vietnamese language, but the cognates and patterns that I do recognise are making me think that it is in the same family as the many Chinese dialects (or languages, since many are not mutually comprehensible in speech).

  153. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Thanks for this, Linh. Keep ‘em coming.

  154. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    and his sister is married to a rich Jewish guy nearly twice her age in California. They roam the world to scuba dive.

    Sounds like the owner of the Philadelphia Eagles, Jeffrey Laurie, married to the much younger Vietnamese immigrant, Tina Lai. https://heavy.com/sports/2018/02/jeffrey-lurie-wife-tina-lai-age-bio/

  155. @utu

    A good reason to support Israel!

    On Mars even better.

    Maybe that’s why Elon Musk is working so hard to start a colony on Mars. Let’s ship all the Jews, Muslims and blacks there, so we can have some peace.

  156. AaronB says:
    @AaronB

    Just to expand on this a little.

    Whites need to develop a “double mind” – where the surface doesn’t necessarily reflect the depths. This way you have psychological distance from any situation you’re in.

    One of the ways those Turks resisted brainwashing was by maintaing an attitude of amused emotional distance. Whites seem to be immersed in any situation they’re in, and have a kind of thin and flat mentality.

    Sometimes I think whites became so strong through technology that this gave them the luxury to be stupid. Nietzsche said power makes stupid.

    Jewish cunning is the tactic of the weak, but you see now that Jews have become so strong that they are becoming stupid. They are stupidly revealing their hand more and more, and are failing to realize that the tactic of calling everyone an anti semite isnt working anymore, that it can only work when you can plausibly claim to be a weak minority, not a dominant elite.

    You see this on Steve Sailer’a threads on various Jewish pundits where their responses are stupid and tone deaf (jpod, etc).

    Whites developed the skills to dominate physical space (technology) and Jews developed the skills to dominate social space. Every specialization involves a corresponding stupidity.

    The skills needed to dominate physical space are absolute honesty, abstract thought that is divorced from the emotions, and analytic inteligence (breaking down into smaller units rather than building up thought structures)

    The skills to dominate social space are duplicity, a very emotional way of thinking and an understanding of emotion, and synthetic intelligence – building up thought strictures for people to believe in, however flimsy and implausible (the point isn’t reality, but social results).

    These two skill sets are obviously opposites, and specializing in one leaves you stupid in the other.

    It’s why finance, media, and law are dominated by Jews, and engineering and inventions by whites.

    Whites became too specialized in one area – and that is very dangerous in a large world with no borders. Whites have to relearn the “human” arts and find a balance between these ways of thinking.

    Extremes may let you win for a while, but always end up destroying you. We see this with Jews too – their extreme specialization in the skills needed to dominate social space gives them great victories for a while, but always ends in them being banished, expelled, or worse. This is happening again in America.

    Asians are a good example of a culture much better at balancing these extremes, and this is reflected in their yin/yang philosophy. They are great engineers and have the human skills to remain socially cohesive, but they aren’t inventive like whites nor can they dominate social space like Jews.

    Extremes may seem exciting, and people who don’t really know Asian culture often think it seems “boring”. But anyone who looks past that and continues to engage with balanced Asian cultures find them to be deeply satisfying in a completely different way, and exciting extremes began to seem, ultimately, boring and juvenile.

    Sane culture are balanced. We dont have to turn to highly foreign Asian cultures for guidance. In the West our own ancient Greek and Roman cultures also concluded that balance is best, especially after they saw how the unbalanced Athenian culture led to disaster, and we can draw on these sources perhaps to turn away from our “Promethean” culture and towards sanity and balance.

  157. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Not a peep from heterosexual false flag stimulator Revusky. “It’s the jews!” says Linh. “Zionists” adds Barrett, warmly.

  158. @AaronB

    AaronB said: We dont have to turn to highly foreign Asian cultures for guidance.”

    Yup… refer to high American culture on display below?

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  159. @ChuckOrloski

    Well, yeah, modern culture.

    The joys of seeing who gets to hit the bottom of the barrel first.

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski
  160. Singh says:
    @Malla

    Reminder that there are no Mandir in Mecca or Vatican is our holy land less holy because it’s ‘Pagan’

    Abrahamics are free to denounce their bigotry & apostasy would probably work better for us

    https://vajrin.wordpress.com/2014/04/18/how-japan-dealt-with-the-christian-threat/

    Also you cucked faggot I’m not a Democrat so don’t put words in my mouth like Bjp supporter।।

    • Replies: @Malla
  161. Singh says:
    @Malla

    They kind of deserve it though after colonialism, imperialism & today trying to force everyone to live by their rules।।

    https://mobile.twitter.com/TAJackson20/status/954791387882385408

    If you say they’re manipulated by Jews or elites then,

    Not a horse, not an elephant and a tiger, certainly not. Give a young goat as oblation;,the Gods destroy the weak.

    Nobody will mourn them least not themselves as they only worship Jewish Ancestors।।

    Our Blood tends toward extremism both the most Radical Euro Pagans (Rus/Ukr) & Muslim (Afghan) are the most related to us।।

    Guru Sahib has ordered us to cleanse Melech, you are one if you stand by them।।

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾ।।ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ।।

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
  162. Singh says:
    @neutral

    Germans have not ever been Aryans you’re a pathetic people with no history who first latched onto the heritage of the Israelite, then the Roman & now the Aryas।।

    • LOL: iffen
    • Replies: @neutral
    , @Malla
  163. @Che Guava

    Vietnamese is austro asiatic with influence from dai and Chinese. Racially the vietnamese are similiar to the dai/tai. Check out out Razib Khan’s work on vietnamese genetics.

    The following link explains the origin of the vietnamese language quite well.

    http://eastasiaorigin.blogspot.sg/2017/07/origin-of-vietnamese-language.html

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  164. wayfarer says:
    @AaronB

    Whites developed the skills to dominate physical space (technology) and Jews developed the skills to dominate social space. Every specialization involves a corresponding stupidity.

    Now mankind needs to develop the skills that would enable it to dominate spiritual space, as one race, the human race. Ultimately its specialization would also lead to “stupidity,” but not for quite some time. For within a relatively infinite observable universe (one light year ~ 9.5 trillion kilometers) there is unimaginable abundance and adequate resources for each and every living being, here on earth today.

    Thanks for being of “service-to-others,” and sharing some love/wisdom with your fellow man.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  165. neutral says:
    @Singh

    I suggest you go to people that study German history and tell them of your profound truth that there is no German history.

  166. AaronB says:
    @wayfarer

    Spiritual specialization would certsainly involve a kind of stupidity from one perspective, and I think that’s always been recognized. All the traditions speak of an “unknowing”, etc. Lao Tzu says the great sage grows less everyday, while the common man learns more each day.

    Gain in one area, is loss in another. Always. Balance is perhaps key, and the infinite universe is abundant, as you say. It contains all. We stupidly cling to one side, but perhaps even that is a necessary movement of the totality.

    Thanks for your kind words!

  167. utu says:
    @AaronB

    You are doing very good job.

  168. Druid says:
    @mp

    Sorry but since you knew what he was up to, you’re part of the crime. It’s called buying backdoor. He stole, you knowingly bought

  169. denk says:
    @Malla

    No No no !

    All those trustworthy people with gravitas, Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Mccain,…….
    every murkkan ambassador to India, all came to this concensus….

    murkkans./Indians are mirrored images of each others, they’r made in heaven natural soul mates !

    I see trees of green, red roses too
    I see them bloom for me and you
    And I think to myself, what a wonderful world….

    —Louis Armstrong

    murkkan ambassador to India.,

    ‘In an increasingly frightening and unstable world, there is one nation we know will stand firm and resolute in its commitment to freedom, human rights, democracy and the rule of law. Without the relentless, selfless efforts of the United States, humankind would plunge into a seething cauldron of tyranny, slavery, chaos and endless war. Besides Israel, severely weakened as it is by the constant strain of fending off the barbarian hordes seeking to “wipe it off the map” and Great Britain, incessantly pressured by its Leftist, pacifist neighbors to appease and negotiate, the home of the brave wages its courageous struggle virtually alone.

    But fear not. The time draws nigh when an aspiring superpower will stand firmly alongside the United States in its defense of humankind. India, the world’s largest democracy and a haven for the free market economics of Capitalism, is forging a deep alliance with the United States.

    What a wonderful world it will indeed be when two nations, each of which was forged in the crucible of revolution against the imperial tyranny of Great Britain, can ally themselves to fend off the twin evils of terrorism and Islamofascism and now the twin terrors of Russkies/Chicoms, as they unite to spread democracy and corporate benevolence.

    https://www.countercurrents.org/miller120207.htm

    hehehehe

    • Agree: TT
    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  170. @neutral

    India isn’t that complicated. I’ve developed a simple rule of thumb for classifying Indian society that I feel is at least 90% accurate.

    5% – competent. Essentially Brahmans close to the white mean, Heavily verbal skewed so you’ll find them in the same niches as Jews; Finance, Media, Government, Academia. Any industry where bullshit and social networking is more important than delivering results. This formed the bulk of immigration to the West.

    20% semi competent. Half a standard deviation below white means. Your basic mercantile castes. Basically the equivalent of Levantine Arabs. What they lack in competence they make up for in doubling down on the ethnic nepotism and self dealing. Mediocre on their own, but highly parasitical in more open (less clannish) societies allowing them to fill an economic niche. Your Patel motel owners. A lot of Indians from the UK come from this category via way of Africa and also prevalent in SE Asia. More common now in the West than they used to be, which is why some Whites are beginning to catch on to the game the Indian elites have been playing that Indian immigration is somehow advantageous.

    75% incompetent. Probably a full standard deviation below. These are your typical violent incompetent turd world nincompoops. Basically your dumber form of Arab, the ones with not insignificant sub-Saharan admixture like say Egyptians. These people Westerners will never see unless they travel to India.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @JohnnyWalker123
  171. denk says:
    @Malla

    I have been saying this for the umpteenth time,
    India is the mother of WEAPON OF MASS MIGRATION, long before Kelly M. Greenhill plagiarized and theorised the idea, which formed the basis of current fukus devious scheme to unleash white genocides on the euros via ME refugees and yellow genocides on the NE , SE Asians via Indian migrations.

    *Over 90% of Tamils and over 90% of Tamil speaking Muslims live in Tamil Nadu, India. Due to proximity and slavery during the Dutch and British periods, close to a million of them were brought into Sri Lanka (Ceylon). Since then they have grown into 5 million with a very high population growth rate and due to illegal migration into the island. Until the end of the war in 2009, some of their extremist elements kept a low profile fearing repercussions. After the war, they are bringing more and more of their relatives from South India, Maldives, Bangladesh and Myanmar while slaying Sri Lanka’s human rights record claiming discrimination against minorities!

    If minorities are so badly discriminated against in Sri Lanka why do hundreds of thousands of Tamil Nadu people and Maldivians want to come to Sri Lanka? The latest of foreign outcastes to creep into the island are Rohingya (Bangladeshi) Muslims. Unless their plans are disrupted, Sri Lanka is heading into a three-pronged war.
    ………………
    After the end of the war, Indian interference worsened and hundreds of thousands of South Indians made their way into the island. They pose a demographic threat to the island nation. India is on a mission to take over the island’s economy.

    Supported by Indian sponsorship, Hindu expansionism in the island can be seen in every province. They have created an extension of India. Malaysia, Myanmar and Singapore have been very careful not to allow it. [sic]

    http://www.lankaweb.com/news/items/2017/09/25/some-tamils-and-muslims-turning-sri-lanka-into-a-refugee-camp-of-foreign-outcastes/

    If you have travelled to Sri Lanka late 2013, you might have thought that after flushing out tamil terrorists, Prez Rajapakse and Dr Gotabaya Rajapakse converted a hell into a almost a heaven. Not as glorious as Singapore, but admittedly moving towards the flying path with an aggressive plan.

    If you have travelled to Sri Lanka now in 2017, you will be disappointed, disgusted. The dream Singapore you had back in 2013 all gone. Is Sri Lanka now like pre Tamil War? Yes. Is Sri Lanka now look like Malaysia? No way. Is Sri Lanka look like Bangladesh? Is Sri Lanka look like Pakistan? Is Sri Lanka look like Vietnam, Thailand? No, No, No.

    Colombo looks more like an Indian city. Please be honest MDP. With the 3 wheelers allowed to flood roads by sucessive governments ( not only this governement) it will never look like Singapore or KualaLumpur

    http://www.lankaweb.com/news/items/2017/06/23/sri-lanka-a-heaven-converted-into-a-hell-in-just-two-years-potential-second-singapore-to-become-uganda/

    LOL !

    These guys should visit Singapore one of these days, they’d be shocked,

    shocked thinking that they’ve landed in Delhi by mistake !
    Ever since the tiny nation was suckered/bludgeoned by washington./delhi into signing an FTA which contained a sneaky clause to allow unlimited entry by Indian expats and their families , the once first world island has now turned into an unrecognisable third world Indian outpost.

    uncle sham must be mightily pleased by his handiwork, an unsinkable aircraft carrier squatting right at the China’s jugular ,built up by the Chinese blood sweat and tears over three centuries, now run by fukus Indian soul mates !!

    P.S.

    If one day I disappear from the forums, you should know Those masters of universe, TPTB has gotten to me. !

    hehehehe

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    , @Malla
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
    , @TT
  172. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Trump grilled Vietnamese Prime Minister Nguyen Xuan Phuc about why his country wasn’t spending more money buying American weapons.

    Vietnam is gearing up like a poor man’s Asian-Israel: Kilo-class subs from Russia, Coast Guard cutters from the US, Seaplanes from Canada, Su-30s from Sukhoi with Trump and the State Department doing the hard sell for more ‘Murican weapons ’cause China.

    • Replies: @Malla
  173. Malla says:
    @Duke of Qin

    That is quite accurate if you ask me.
    But there is a teeeny weeny minority among the 5% elites who are more visual IQ and are similar to Whites/East Asians. Like 5% of the 5%. They are the few genuine researchers you see in Western universities.

    And instead of sub saharan ancestry there is substantial Australoid ancestry. I think South East Asians also have this ancestry too which dumbs them down even thought they have Mongoloid ancestry from the North.
    South Asians (Indian Subcontinent) formed by Caucasoid+Australoid.
    South East Asians formed by Mongoloid + Australoid.
    In looks, IQ and behaviour that is what I think.

    But unlike South East Asia, in South Asia, due to the caste system intermarriage restriction, the IQ elites prevented regression towards the mean.

  174. Malla says:
    @denk

    murkkans./Indians are mirrored images of each others, they’r made in heaven natural soul mates !

    The Han are jealous.
    hehehehe
    Han ditched their Soviet ruskie buddies (whom Han considered lesser Whites anyways) and sat on Uncle Sam’s lap (Higher Whites) but uncle Sam treat proud yellow Han as pariah (Did Uncle Sam consider Han, lesser Yellows compared to the Japanese?). Han take big Anglo uncle Sam money and send weapons in Africa to destroy small Anglos of Rhodesia/South Africa. Han help big Anglo, but big Anglo still rebuff him.
    Han angry that, without doing any help, darkie smelly Hindoo (lowest of Caucasians) treated like brothers, by highest of Caucasians, Uncle Sam and John Bull (which was original Han dream). After rebuff by Anglos, the Han went workaholic to prove to themselves and the world that they are awesome. Yet big Anglos not treat Han like brothers. Han now frustrated and spend time on internet spreading hatred against brownie Hindoo, drinking baiju on the side.
    hehehehe

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    , @gT
    , @denk
  175. SomeGuy says:
    @denk

    >built up by the Chinese blood sweat and tears over three centuries

    You make it sound like they’re whites. Any ethnic Chinese society will inevitably be dominated by a few who squeeze the life out of everybody else via extortionary rents and 80h work weeks while in the west (((merchants))) are largely to blame.

    Empathy is not a Chinese trait. Don’t be fooled that the Chinamen due to their lack of violent tendencies and general industriousness can build a western or Japan like society that is largely middle class.

    If Singapore doesn’t turn into Dheli 2.0 it’ll turn into caged housing like in Hong Kong for the masses instead.

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    , @denk
    , @Anonymous
  176. Malla says:
    @denk

    yellow genocides on the NE , SE Asians via Indian migrations.

    This could be true. The British Empire did help in the spreading of us desis into South East Asia, especially Malaysia and Singapore and even Myanmar/Burma. If Indonesia instead of being part of the Dutch Empire and Vietnam of the French Empire been part of the British Empire instead, there would have substantial South Asian populations there too.
    The Brits also encouraged Bangladeshi migration into Syllet, where the local Mongoloid-Australoids were overwhelmed and absorbed by the more numerous Caucasoid-Australoid Bengalis. Similarly the Brits encouraged Hindu Nepali (who are semi mongoloid too tho) into traditional Buddhist Sikkimese (Bhutia/Lepcha) lands including Darjaleeng which is now in Indian Bengal state instead of Sikkim state.
    Later these Hindu Nepalese played a big role in delivering Sikkim to us by bullshit revolutions (payed by Indian Government) against the King of Sikkim, the The last Chogyal, Palden Thondup Namgyal who wanted to balance Indian influence with good relations with China.
    If you are interested in the whole Sikkim fiasco, the Indian annexation of Sikkim, imperialist style, this book is a mush read.

    http://pahar.in/wpfb-file/1984-smash-and-grab-annexation-of-sikkim-by-datta-roy-s-pdf/

    Smash and Grab: Annexation of Sikkim by Sunanda K. Datta-Ray
    P.S. The above book was banned in India.
    Fortunately Bhutan had already acquired an U.N. seat or it would have met the same fate as Sikkim. But Bhutan is now de facto a colony of India. Bhutan needs India’s permission to start diplomatic relations with any third country.
    It is surprising how much the British helped spread us desis around the world.

    While dividing the Indian Empire, into British India and British Burma, the British placed many Mongoloid peoples like the Naga, Mizo, Khasi, Chakma (basically today the seven sister states of the North East of India and the Chittagong Hill tracts of Bangladesh) in British India. These peoples never wanted to be part of India/Pakistan/Bangladesh, the British protected them from mainland Indians, but after they went, Indian forces forced them to be part of India (just like Muslim Pakistan forced the Chakma and other Mongoloid ethnic groups of the Chittagong Hill tracts to be part of East Pakistan/Bangladesh). Newly Independent India and Independent Pakistan taking away the independence of others, wow!!! What irony!!
    Even if the British government protected these ethnic groups during their rule, they should have divided the borders of British Burma and British India such that all these ethnic groups would have been on the Burmese side. Would have solved a lot of problems.

    Colombo looks more like an Indian city. Please be honest MDP. With the 3 wheelers allowed to flood roads by sucessive governments ( not only this governement) it will never look like Singapore or KualaLumpur

    LOL Sri Lankans are racially South Asians like Indians. The difference is not that big. The only advantage they (Sinhalese) have is that they are Buddhist and do not suffer from some of the pathologies of Islam and Hinduism. In the Indian subcontinent, Buddhist and Christian regions show less difference between rich and poor as well as lessor tragedy of the commons than Hindu or Muslim regions.
    Indians living in Sri Lanka is same as Koreans and Chinese living in Japan. Racially Sri Lankans are the same as Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis. Sri Lanka would never have become a Singapore, could have become at best (maybe if you stretch it) a Thailand.

    uncle sham must be mightily pleased by his handiwork, an unsinkable aircraft carrier squatting right at the China’s jugular ,built up by the Chinese blood sweat and tears over three centuries, now run by fukus Indian soul mates !!

    Chinese blood and sweat, but Chinese did not realize the importance of Singapore. If not for the British, Singapore would have been a tiny fishing village. Do not forget Stamford Raffles, the Grand father of Singapore. It was he who saw the importance of Singapore and made the first settlement here even if his British superiors opposed this move (of fear of provoking the powerful Dutch Indonesian Government nearby).

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  177. Malla says:
    @Singh

    You fool!!! There are mandirs/gurudwaras in Britain, America, France, Canada, Australia. All of them traditionally Christian nations.

    Also you cucked faggot

    And you are a brave Jatt Sikh? When Talha was question the Islamic brutality in pre colonial India, you ran away and I was defending our history. When ‘Bliss’ the communist faggot was insulting India, I fought with him on Unz, you ran away.

  178. Malla says:
    @Singh

    They kind of deserve it though after colonialism, imperialism & today trying to force everyone to live by their rules।।

    And why not the Muslim Arabs and Turks who were a 1000 times more brutal to us than the Brits? Why no flood Turkey and Arabia with Indians and Africans? How are Indians treated in Saudia? Like slaves no? What is brave Sikh Jatt doing about is? How are Indians treated in Britain? Given citizenship and equal pay no? Why brave Jatt Sikh only lambast kind gora angrez, but act like pussy in front of Saudia/Turki? What is brave Sikh Jatt doing about Arab melech treating your Hindu/Sikh brothers as slaves and Turkia not allowing Indian immigration to make up for 500 years of brutal Turko rule (a 1000 times more brutal than Angrez rule) over Hindus/Sikhs?

    Why does Sweden who hardly have much of an Empire share the same fate? Why does Ireland who had no empire outside Europe ahve to share the same fate? This Europeans deserve it due to colonization is nonsense. Turkey had Ottoman Empire, why no mass migration there?
    Jews want to finish of White race so than we will be goyim slaves of them.

    If you say they’re manipulated by Jews or elites then,

    Bhai mere, do you have biometric Aadhar card? If yes, (if no, it will become impossible to live in India soon) you are already on your way to become slave of Jewish bankers. Jews run India too, fool. Try attacking a Chabad House in India, your own Indian government will deliver you in a crate to mossad and the rest…….Wake up and smell the coffee.

    https://wideawakegentile.wordpress.com/2015/02/14/the-modi-bloomberg-smart-kosher-cities/

    https://wideawakegentile.wordpress.com/2016/12/05/uidai-aadhar-national-population-register-nilekani-and-the-globalist-agenda/

    https://wideawakegentile.wordpress.com/2016/10/28/rothschild-nm-and-the-tata-mess/

    https://wideawakegentile.wordpress.com/2016/05/15/ntro-s-kosher-backdoor/

    And who got Modi into power?

    https://www.youthkiawaaz.com/2013/04/apco-namo-namah-narendra-modis-ressurection/

    Why was an Indian Nationalist brought into power by globalists with links to Israel.
    Jews are doing a total takeover of Bharat varsha and there will be looting of your Hindu/Sikh brother’s blood and sweat for centuries, take my word.

  179. Malla says:
    @Singh

    Guru Sahib has ordered us to cleanse Melech, you are one if you stand by them।।

    Cleanse all Melech (non Hindus) from Indian subcontinent only or the entire world?

  180. Malla says:
    @denk

    Kelly M. Greenhill Weapons of Mass Migration indeed.
    Explain please Mr. denk how Han mass migrated to Taiwan and made the native Taiwanese minority?

    Native Taiwanese peoples such as the Ami, Atayal, Bunun, Hla’alua, Kanakanavu, Kavalan, Paiwan, Puyuma, Rukai, Saisiyat, Tao, Thao, Tsou, Truku, Sakizaya, Sediq etc…

    Yet Han shamelessly lambast Anglos for Native Americans, Maoris and Australian Aboriginals? And lambast us Hindus for treatment of our own tribal adivasis in Central India (the so called Maoists)?

    hehehehehe

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  181. Malla says:
    @Anonymous

    Well the Vietnamese have just acquired the Brahmos supersonic anti ship missile. Developed jointly by Russia’s NPO Mashinostroyenia and India’s Defence Research and Development Organization (DRDO) (well basically Russian brains and Indian money, trust me on this). A lot of Chinese naval Admirals are sweating under their uniform. LOL

    http://www.freepressjournal.in/india/india-ships-brahmos-missiles-to-vietnam-teaches-china-a-lesson/1123976

    India ships BrahMos missiles to Vietnam, ‘teaches’ China a lesson

    India has a Vietnam-India Comprehensive Strategic Partnership agreement with that country. The acquisition of Brahmos will be viewed by China as a move by Vietnam to protect its claims over the disputed South China Sea. Beijing claims the entire sea as its own.

    The Brahmos can accelerate to speeds of 2.8 times the speed of sound. It can strike enemy ships 300 km away. It can manoeuvre itself to avoid interception by surface-to-air missiles which may be fired to prevent it from hitting its target.

    At the 1.5 Track meeting between India and China, Karnad had made a policy prescription that in view of China supporting the nuclear programme of Pakistan, any strong-minded government in India would now have the option of arming India’s neighbours like Vietnam with the Brahmos missile. This policy prescription was taken up seriously by the government in 2005.

    The deal with Vietnam will annoy the Chinese enormously because this country brilliantly repulsed a Chinese attack in 1987 that China started in order to “teach a lesson” to that country for daring to challenge its bigger neighbour. During the war, China lost as many as 63,000 of its soldiers while Vietnam lost only 26,000. Chinese casualties would have been greater, had it not withdrawn. After a series of unsuccessful negotiations, China finally signed a border pact with Vietnam. China failed to “teach a lesson” to Vietnam.

    http://www.india.com/news/world/vietnam-confirms-purchase-of-brahmos-missile-from-india-2410718/

    Vietnam Confirms Purchase of BrahMos Missile From India

    Vietnam confirmed the purchase of BrahMos missile from India which is considered to be one of the most lethal missiles of the world. The purchase of missile is to persistently pursue national defence policy of peace and self-defence, said Foreign Ministry of Vietnam.

    BrahMos Missile:
    Travels at a speed of Mach 2.8 to 3.0 (3,400-3,700 km).
    The missile was developed with a joint effort of Research and Development Organization (DRDO) and Russia’s NPO Mashinostroeyenia.
    It is based on the sidelines of Russian P-800 Oniks cruise missile.
    It can be launched from land, submarine, ships, aircraft.
    The second version of the missile is currently being developed and reports suggest it will travel with a speed of Mach 7.

    https://sputniknews.com/asia/201709021057016649-india-secretly-supplied-vietnam-missiles/

    Has India Secretly Supplied Vietnam with 6,000-pound Supersonic Missiles?
    Chinese Admirals are really sweating so much, it is a downpour.

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  182. @Malla

    “In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.” – HHTG

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  183. llloyd says: • Website
    @A Currency Lad

    In Thailand, the Chinese have more or less entirely intermarried with the Thais. But I suppose you can say that about the Jews also. I don’t recall any anti Chinese sentiments or dual loyalty accusations. The Thaksin family and the Royal family are both of Chinese descent. So in Thailand you could say the Chinese have more than their finger in both camps. Again very like the Jews. I taught in Thailand and I can say there were some brilliant Thais. If they were Chinese descent, I didn’t know. Being brown is a stigma but no surety of lack of intelligence as my Thai in-law shows. The Thais are kind. They are very hard working unless they have connections then they seem to do no work at all. Thailand is totally corrupt. I worked illegally for the Government as a school teacher. They have a unique combination of gangsterism combined with sanctimoniousness as their politics demonstrate.

  184. Malla says:
    @Singh

    More Hinduvadi nonsense which has it’s origins amongst slimey Theosophists. You are blabeering the theories of General Olcott, a theosophist and a freemason.

    Check out the Alani

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alans

    The name Alan is an Iranian dialectical form of Aryan, a common self-designation of the Indo-Iranians.
    …snip….
    The fourth-century Roman historian Ammianus Marcellinus wrote that the Alans were tall, and blond:

    Nearly all the Alani are men of great stature and beauty; their hair is somewhat yellow, their eyes are terribly fierce.[55]

    Also
    From

    https://authenticgathazoroastrianism.org/2016/10/17/moslem-designation-of-the-vikings-as-majus-or-heathen-zoroastrians-and-the-maga-fellowship-of-zarathustra/

    Moslem voyagers, traders, and theologians from the Umayyad and Abbasid dynasties/caliphates, came into contact with the Vikings during their visits to trading centers such as Kiev and Novgorod, part of the “Volga Trade route.” Moslems appeared to have become very familiar with the Old Norse kinsfolk and their belief systems during these visits.

    Moslems classified the Vikings as Majūs or “heathen Zoroastrians,” since they thought them to be very much like Zoroastrians of pre Islamic Iran/Persia.

    Majūs, plural majūsī, from Greek Mágos μάγος, Latin Magus, is a term that goes back to the Avestan magá, referring to the Zoroastrian shaman warriors.

    According to Ibn Rustah’s (10th century,) Vikings accorded great respect to their ‘shamans’ [attibah] who had great authority over their chieftain.

    In almost all moslem accounts, reference to the Vikings starts with the phrase: “al-Majus (Vikings/Zoroastrians) – May God curse them!” Moslem envoys referred to the Viking chiefs/kings as malik al-majūs, and to the Viking lands as bilād al-majūs.

    Regarding Christianized Vikings, Moslem accounts state: Norse men were Majusi “Zoroastrian heathens,” but they now follow the Christian faith dīn al-naṣranīya, and have given up fire-worship and their previous religion, except for the people of a few scattered islands of theirs in the sea, where they keep to their old Majusi (Zoroastrian) faith.

    Moslem accounts to the Vikings include Al-Ghazal’s (8th – 9th Century, Al-Andalus) entitled “embassy mission to the Vikings,” originated within Al-Muqtabis fi tarikh al-Andalus of Ibn Hayyan (The collected knowledge on the history of Al-Andalus.)

    The most extensive account on the Vikings by Moslems is that written by Ibn Fadlan (10th Century, Baghdad.)

  185. Malla says:
    @denk

    If one day I disappear from the forums, you should know Those masters of universe, TPTB has gotten to me.

    I hope that never happens, denk. It is fun reading your posts.
    hehehehe

  186. @Daniel Chieh

    像一盘散沙

    “Xiang4 Yi4 Pan2 San4 Sha1″

    Maybe because there’s always a lot of us pulling in different directions. Then it takes some crisis to bring us back together. Shades of 分久必合,合久必分.

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  187. Malla says:
    @Singh

    They kind of deserve it ….. trying to force everyone to live by their rules।।

    And that would have been good for the world. And thus to prevent this from happening the globalists and their secret societies launched Communism, Islamic fundamentalism, Hippie movements, Urban culture, Hindu fundamentalism, counter culture, Hindu holyment in the west, anti colonialism, Afrocentrism, Cultural Marxism, black conscious communities, Gangsta Rap, La Raza etc…. All of that launched to prevent this from happening.

    What I understand is that the Globalist elite scum want us all to either behave like this

    A]

    OR on the other hand like this

    B]

    OR even this

    C]

    But not like this

    D]

    The globalists hate hate hate [D] behaviour and culture for the masses. After watching Hollywood for years, anyone can get this propaganda.

  188. My wife insists she’s able to tell Vietnamese from Chinese, though I could never do so myself. She says they have flatter faces.

    I had taught quite a lot of Vietnamese students on scholarship. Most of them scooted off to the US after getting their A Level results. Come to think of it, most of them looked almost indistinguishable from ethnic Chinese, which was why they are quite irked when local old people would talk to them in mandarin/hokkien/teochew and they would have to tell them they aren’t chinese.

  189. Che Guava says:
    @Third world nationalist

    Thamk you for that link to the helpful descritption.

    Very informative.

    Still, it is doing nothing to convince me that viet is austro-asian language.

    As one of the commenters there was pointing out and I am extending a little, if 70% of vocabulary is from China, grammar is the same, except in rare cases of import, then it is a southern dialect of southern Chinese.

    Not ‘austro-asian’.

    To claim that it is ‘austro-asian’ is like claiming that French is in the Germanic language family, based only on some shared vocab. and phonology in some places.

    It only leaves me more convinced that the Wikipedia is, as so often, wrong.

    However, thank you again for the link.

  190. @The Wobbly Guy

    I always heard 散沙; its nice to see the actual proverb. This is why its always so hilarious the notion that Han somehow can mass coordinate; some time ago, I heard of Koreans who helped by lending each other money to start small businesses. Would be nice if the Chinese could manage that, but of course not.

    Guanxi exists, and I think those localized patronage networks is what is often misperceived as greater coordination.

  191. @SomeGuy

    Yes, this is why Singapore, Taiwan, Hong Kong or even China doesn’t have a large middle class. Self-refuting nonsense.

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  192. Malla says:
    @AaronB

    Brilliant comment

    Whites developed the skills to dominate physical space (technology) and Jews developed the skills to dominate social space. Every specialization involves a corresponding stupidity.

    The skills needed to dominate physical space are absolute honesty, abstract thought that is divorced from the emotions, and analytic inteligence (breaking down into smaller units rather than building up thought structures)

    The skills to dominate social space are duplicity, a very emotional way of thinking and an understanding of emotion, and synthetic intelligence – building up thought strictures for people to believe in, however flimsy and implausible (the point isn’t reality, but social results).

    Maybe because Whites evolved in the cold North and had to fight nature to survive. Besides Whites of different tribes were often in situations where they had to cooperate to survive difficult situations in the snowy wastelands. That explains why Whites trust strangers much more easily than browns. This trust was meant only for fellow Whites of different ethnic group/tribe, not all mankind. Because of the influence of universal Christianity/ modernism they now trust everybody easily (to come to their countries), something others take advantage of.

    Jews evolved in the Middle Zone (in between the cold north and Hot tropics) where due to early start in farming, population densities rose faster, much earlier. So dealing with people was more important. Besides that, in the Middle Zone there was multi racialism/multiculturalism, races of different types (Caucasoids, Mongoloids, Negroids, Australoids) came and fought each other, mixed with each other, mated with each other. Hence populations here are untrustworthy of outsiders and concentrate on exploiting the out group.

  193. Hibernian says:
    @Duke of Qin

    “Vincente Fox (aka Mr. Fuchs)”

    Is he Irish and Jewish?

  194. Hibernian says:
    @EnriiiqueCardovaa

    The dominant force in American history has been the New England WASP. The emotionalism of the various “deplorables” has only been a force to be exploited.

  195. Malla says:
    @AaronB

    Jewish cunning is the tactic of the weak,

    Very true, you may find Otto Weininger’s thoughts, himself of Jewish ancestry helpful

    As there is no real dignity in women, so what is meant by the word “gentleman” does not exist amongst the Jews. The genuine Jew fails in this innate good breeding by which alone individuals honour their own individuality and respect that of others. There is no Jewish nobility, and this is the more surprising as Jewish pedigrees can be traced back for thousands of years.

    The familiar Jewish arrogance has a similar explanation; it springs from want of true knowledge of himself and the consequent overpowering need he feels to enhance his own personality by depreciating that of his fellow-creatures. . . .

    The faults of the Jewish race have often been attributed to the repression of that race by Aryans, and many Christians are still disposed to blame themselves in this respect. But the self- reproach is not justified. Outward circumstances do not mould a race in one direction, unless there is in the race the innate tendency to respond to the moulding forces; the total result comes at least as much from a natural disposition as from the modifying circumstances. . . .

    . . . The Jew is not really anti-moral. But, none the less, he does not represent the highest ethical type. He is rather non- moral, neither good nor bad. . . .

    . . . According to the definition of Schopenhauer, the word “God” indicates a man who made the world. This certainly is a true likeness of the God of the Jew. Of the divine in man, the true Jew knows nothing; for what Christ and Plato, Eckhard and Paul, Goethe and Kant, the priests of the Vedas, and Fechner, and every Aryan have meant by the divine, for what the saying, “I am with you always even to the end of the world” – for the meaning of all these the Jew remains without understanding. For the God in man is the human soul, and the absolute Jew is devoid of a soul.

    It is inevitable, then, that we should find no trace of belief in immortality in the Old Testament. Those who have no soul can have no craving for immortality, and so it is with the woman and the Jew.

    . . . Jewish monotheism has no relation to a true belief in God; it is not a religion of reason, but a belief of old women founded on fear.

    Why is it that the Jewish slave of Jehovah should become so readily a materialist or a freethinker? It is merely the alternative phase to slavery; arrogance about what is not understood is the other side of the slavish intelligence. When it is fully recognised that Judaism is to be regarded rather as an idea in which other races have a share, than as the absolute property of a particular race, then the Judaic element in modern materialistic science will be better understood. Wagner has given expression to Judaism in music; there remains something to say about Judaism in modern science.

    Judaism in science, in the widest interpretation of it, is the endeavour to remove all transcendentalism. The Aryan feels that the effort to grasp everything, and to refer everything to some system of deductions, really robs things of their true meaning; for him, what cannot be discovered is what gives the world its significance. The Jew has no fear of these hidden and secret elements, for he has no consciousness of their presence. He tries to take a view of the world as flat and commonplace as possible, and to refuse to see all the secret and spiritual meanings of things. His view is non-philosophical rather than anti-philosophical. . . .

    In the case of the Aryans, the metaphysical qualities of the male are part of his sexual attraction for the woman, and so, in a fashion, she puts on an appearance of these. The Jew, on the other hand, has no transcendental quality, and in the shaping and moulding of the wife leaves the natural tendencies of the female nature a more unhampered sphere; and the Jewish woman, accordingly, plays the part required of her, as house-mother or odalisque, as Cybele or Cyprian, in the fullest way.

    It is not, then, mysticism that the Jew is without, as Chamberlain maintains, but reverence. If he were only an honest-minded materialist or a frank evolutionist! He is not a critic, but only critical; he is not a sceptic in the Cartesian sense, not a doubter who sets out from doubt towards truth, but an ironist; as, for instance, to take a conspicuous example, Heine.

    What, then, is the Jew if he is nothing that a man can be? What goes on within him if he is utterly without finality, if there is no ground in him which the plumb line of psychology may reach?

    The psychological contents of the Jewish mind are always double or multiple. There are always before him two or many possibilities, where the Aryan, although he sees as widely, feels himself limited in his choice. I think that the idea of Judaism consists in this want of reality, this absence of any fundamental relation to the thing-in-and-for-itself. He stands, so to speak, outside reality, without ever entering it. He can never make himself one with anything – never enter into real relationships. He is a zealot without zeal; he has no share in the unlimited, the unconditioned. He is without simplicity of faith, and so is always turning to each new interpretation, so seeming more alert than the Aryan. Internal multiplicity is the essence of Judaism, internal simplicity that of the Aryan.

    Our age is not only the most Jewish but the most feminine. It is a time when art is content with daubs and seeks its inspiration in the sports of animals; the time of a superficial anarchy, with no feeling for Justice and the State; a time of communistic ethics, of the most foolish of historical views, the materialistic interpretation of history; a time of capitalism and of Marxism; a time when history, life, and science are no more than political economy and technical instruction: a time when genius is supposed to be a form of madness; a time with no great artists and no great philosophers; a time without originality and yet with the most foolish craving for originality; a time when the cult of the Virgin has been replaced by that of the Demi-vierge. It is the time when pairing has not only been approved but has been enjoined as a duty.

    But from the new Judaism the new Christianity may be pressing forth; mankind waits for the new founder of religion, and, as in the year one, the age presses for a decision. The decision must be made between Judaism and Christianity, between business and culture, between male and female, between the race and the individual, between unworthiness and worth, between the earthly and the higher life, between negation and the God-like. Mankind has the choice to make. There are only two poles, and there is no middle way.

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  196. Hibernian says:
    @utu

    Jews were forbidden to own land in those societies, but farming was largely done by landless laborers, sharecroppers, and tenants.

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  197. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    Just to keep the comparatives within the Euro-Africa latitudes:

    Japanese=Germans
    Northern Chinese=British
    Southern Chinese=French/Mediterraneans
    Mongols=Turkic Eastern Europeans/Kazakhstan
    Koreans=Austrians
    Vietnamese=Spanish
    Thai Elites=South African whites
    Thais=South African blacks
    Malays=Saudi Arabians
    Indonesians=Iraqis
    Filipinos=Moroccans
    Laotians=Ukrainians
    Cambodians=Zimbabweans
    Indians=Egyptians
    Pakistanis=Libyans
    Burmese=Algerians
    Bangladeshis=Somalians
    Sri Lankans=Tunisians

  198. Malla says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    Hehe Good one.

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  199. Malla says:
    @Hibernian

    Check out post number 113. Jews were given the chance to own land in Medieval England, they did not take it.
    In one way of looking at it, that is what Zionism is all about. Theodor Herzl wanted the Jews to be a complete people, people who farm, people who work, he thought that would be the best solution for the Jewish problem for Gentiles and Jews themselves.

  200. denk says:
    @SomeGuy

    You make it sound like they’re whites

    LOL,

    only the inept Chinese would do ‘blood , sweat and tears’ my dear,

    Thats no way for the whiteys, they’r on a higher plane see ?

    Ever heard of …….
    Blood for oil.
    Who says there’s no free lunch ?

    Works like a charm since 1600.

    hehheheh

  201. denk says:
    @Malla

    whiteys ditched Hans ?
    LOL.

    murkkans more than once dangled that G2 B.S. at China, only to be told that,
    You can take it back and stuff it up your ass’ !

    hehhehehehe

    uncle sham then teased India with the same G2 carrot knowing the Indians would fall for it, sure enuff, Bharat fall over itself to lap it up hook line and sinker. !
    You should read those Indian forums,
    ‘India and murkka will rule the world now’ !

    ROFLMAO 1

    Your recurring hearsay on Africa is getting stale and unconvincing.

    The Africans know who’s their friends and who’s screwing them.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/china-seen-by-africans-as-partners-america-and-europe-seen-as-predators/31731

    They wanna know why AQ and co keep getting stronger even tho the murkkans
    have been fighting them in Africa and elsewhere since 2001 !

    Surprise surprise, turns out the murkkans have been playing both sides, paying ‘moslem terrorists’ to fight murkkan trained military !

    AQ/BOKO HARAM/ISIS/
    The gift that keeps on giving,
    hhehehhe

    Must be ‘concidence’ while the great satan is supposedly kicking the terrorists ass, its the Chinese who keep getting shot at in Sudan, Mali….!

    ‘Han now frustrated and spend time on internet spreading hatred against brownie Hindoo, drinking baiju on the side.’

    Come on dont be coy, you’r the pro !

    hehehhehe

    • Replies: @Malla
  202. TT says:
    @Malla

    Well Chine did invade Vietnam in the past.
    ….
    It bullied Vietnam as far as the Spartly Islands are concerned

    Malla

    I had debunked these myths previously, you knew them. Why did you bring these US/Vietcon propaganda out as facts to spread fake news?

    Asia and whole world owed China much for using their blood to quell Vietcon & Soviet expansionary war after US allied flee. Otherwise, whole world incl India are part of SU now. Communism may be good for mankind, but disasterous under imperfect leaders.

    Why China gave Viet punitive attack:

    http://www.unz.com/ldinh/practical-vietnam-imploding-america-and-china-as-beacon/#comment-2138055

    Also the SCS spratly issues, i had debunked this US & its lackeys evil conspiracy to control the SCS shipping lanes, hence China lifeline.

    Older US, Canada produced world maps still clearly show China is the legitimate owners of all SCS islands. During 1800 Britannica and British world Atlas all show SCS belong to China. China announced in 1947 to reinforce these 11 historical lines, which Zhou Enlai change to 9 later, without any dispute from the world including US, UK and SCS border countries. It cannot be in one Obama’s stroke become illegimate. There are whole archived of historical facts, not an overnight drive by claim.

    This comment completely debunked the kangaroo fake Hague court judgement.

    http://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/did-the-ruling-sink-the-rule-of-law

    China navy confront US two strike forces in SCS:

    http://www.unz.com/ldinh/practical-vietnam-imploding-america-and-china-as-beacon/#comment-2139459

    Vietnam is the biggest illegal spratly island [email protected], first and most aggressive in building structures(incapable is another issue). China is late comer @7 islands. This article has detailed SCS historical facts.

    http://chasfreeman.net/diplomacy-on-the-rocks-china-and-other-claimants-in-the-south-china-sea/

    To instil enmity in its own nation using distorted history do not benefit anyone except corrupted politicians. Vietnamese with much unnecessary hatred, easily instigated by US to riot against China investment recently. So many China industries and investment stop moving downward now that could provide much needed jobs to improve their lives. Obor could even run thru Vietnam. To be bankrupt Yankee soulmate means its weapon buyer and canon fodder.

    India still spinning China invading border war propaganda till this day, when India is true aggressor as you had help identified. So instead of benefiting from its neighbour China Obor and massive investment to rise quickly as GDP No.2 and remove widespread poverty, it choose to be US evil soulmate to aggressively challenge China. A war with China is the end of India, and a destroyed China peaceful rise, fulfilling Uncle Sam dream to continue its hedgmon. A complete disaster for the world that we are hoping Russia-China could jointly save. India is great poison in this mankind struggle against US atrocity. When China and Russia down, India will be next target. India exPM Mamod Singh had correctly pointed out, only US is capable and will conquer India.

    Those historical interference you mentioned in Africa…if true, were Mao’s era SU communism vs Western fighting. Not any Chinese imperialism expansionary war or to grab land like US & India never stop doing. So this got nothing to substantiate Linh D foolish regurgitating US/Vietcon China threat propaganda that China want to swallow up his communist country, India and everyone.

    Ask every Vietnamese and Indians, they will readily condemn their corrupted bad government. Instead of trying to change internally, they are blaming others, which US & India are perfect shinning model.

    • Replies: @Malla
  203. @anarchyst

    ” Ken Burns is just another communist sympathizer.”

    Actually, I would state that Ken Burns is just another communist.

  204. denk says:
    @Malla

    LOL Sri Lankans are racially South Asians like Indians

    When even the Sri Lankans and Nepalese are complaining about Indian immigrations, cant you see the potency of Indian WMM ?

    The Sri Lankans are acute observers, way sharper than those whiteys/Indians who still subscribe to murkkan/Indian ‘shared values ‘ of ‘democracy, human rights,. rules of law’ [cough cough]

    murkkan/Indian G2 exposed in a nutshell,

    http://www.lankaweb.com/news/items/2017/12/28/unhrc-head-prince-zeid-reconfirms-our-position-that-un-is-a-monetary-influenced-biased-puppet/

    here’s a spoiler,
    Its nuthin but a glorified mafiaso outfit !

    Not the Chinese cup of tea ,
    hehehehe

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
  205. @AaronB

    As to the “jewish style” of doing business, all of the 2nd and 3rd generation Jewish vendors I used to deal with in the millinery district of NYC are gone. Their politics led them into a devotion for Bloomie and his policies destroyed their business model which had been established by their grandfathers and their fathers.

    I miss them these days. A Sikh importer way out in Long Island bought up much of their inventory remainders and I’ve bought a lot of it, out of date though it is.

  206. TT says:
    @Sam J.

    I can state without any quibbles at all that if the US had not fought n Vietnam then large parts of South East Asia would have been lost to the Commies. During the time we were fighting in Vietnam the other countries around the area were fighting off their own Commie insurgencies. Some even won. Now there’s a lot of White bashing about the US bombing

  207. denk says:
    @Malla

    TW is an island in China’s frontyard, robbed by the jp in 1898.

    USA/CANADA/OZ/NZ/Haiwaii/Chagos island/Guam/Puerto Rico/Iraq/Afghan/OKinawa/Jeju…..are continents/islands thousands of miles away from mother
    England, no history connection, no proximity excuse, pure land grab !

    No contest !

    whiteys win hands down !

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  208. denk says:
    @gT

    You’r very good at holding onto others coattail eh ?

    heheheh

    • Replies: @gT
  209. denk says:
    @Malla

    Hmm

    I agree,
    Daniel the model Chinese just get a good pat on the head from a whitey,
    er, I mean an Indian. ;-)

    hehhehehe

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  210. @denk

    uncle sham then teased India with the same G2 carrot knowing the Indians would fall for it, sure enuff, Bharat fall over itself to lap it up hook line and sinker. !
    You should read those Indian forums,
    ‘India and murkka will rule the world now’ !

    You really shouldn’t spend too much time on Indian forums. Stupidity is contagious and really is pointless.

    But it looks like it may be too late already.

  211. Malla says:
    @denk

    The Sri Lankans are acute observers, way sharper than those whiteys/Indians who still subscribe to murkkan/Indian ‘shared values ‘ of ‘democracy, human rights,. rules of law’

    What? Sri Lanka is a democracy, you fool.

  212. Malla says:
    @denk

    TW is an island in China’s frontyard, robbed by the jp in 1898.

    But Taiwanese natives not overwhelmed by Japanese Weapon of Mass Migration. Taiwanese natives are now like Native Americans/Australian Abos, minority in their own land, thanks to Chinese Weapon of Mass Migration.
    hehehehe

  213. TT says:
    @Sam J.

    I can state without any quibbles at all that if the US had not fought n Vietnam then large parts of South East Asia would have been lost to the Commies. During the time we were fighting in Vietnam the other countries around the area were fighting off their own Commie insurgencies. Some even won. Now there’s a lot of White bashing about the US bombing

    You actually believe your government propaganda into believing Yankee invade Vietnam for humanity reason like in all its past 50yrs atrocious wars spanning the whole world, even won the Vietnam war to save Asia?

    Sure You knew what atrocity your gov did to Vietnamese, attack Vietnam for its independent war against colonist France after Japan surrendered, when France lost, you staged the civil wars to divide, lost it with all your most destructive chemical weapons & bombs more than all WWII add up, you flee leaving millions of your helpless allies South Vietnamese in peril? How can your this nonsense save Asia? People like you make US endless atrocious wars possible. Read wikipedia.

    Its China that paid the greatest blood price for Asia peace by launching punitive attack on Vietnam after Asean begging for help. Singapore exPM LKY is the only one honestly reveal it in his memoir after many years, other hypocrite Asia leaders kept silent and continue to hype China threat. Whole Asean armies went up to resist Vietcon hopelessly at Thai border. Without China, all will be slaughtered in weeks. And Soviet with its invincible war hardened Vietcon army will sweep through whole Asia, Europe and the world, i will become commie too.

    I only get to read about China attacked to Vietnam in Lee Kuan Yew memoir. There he said, “after US defeated and fled, North Viet started to invade Cambodia, with Asean next. Vietnam, backed by Soviet, is invincible now. Asean had sent all their armies to Thailand’s border, possibly able to hold few weeks at most. So LKY went to ask Deng XP help. After China unsuccessful to dissuade Vietnam(whose China help rebuilt its economic and infrastructure after war), Chinese army launched punitive short attack to destroy its war capacity, while confronting Soviet million troops at its northern border. Soviet failed to honor its Vietnam treaty to counter attack China, so Vietnam invincibility war pride got crippled. China save whole Asean with its blood(many thousands soldier dead), so Asia can enjoy peaceful growth for next 30 yrs.”

    You are claiming like Tillerson, US had successfully destroyed ISIS to save Syria and the world from terrorists(make by US)

    http://www.voltairenet.org/article199417.html

    As bad as we evil Whites are would you rather live in North Korea…forever?

    North Korea, another endless atrocity and big lies by Yankee till this moment you believe and regurgitate.

    Who is the real evil demon? NK or US?

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/north-korea-versus-the-united-states-who-are-the-demons/28342

    Achievement of NK in healthcare, education…

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/north-korea-their-health-system-sucks-do-they-have-schools-and-hospitals-in-america-weve-got-medicare/5604293

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-social-and-economic-achievements-of-north-korea/5594234

    US tyranny and endless atrocities wars are not driven just by deep states interest groups, but also make possible by foolish blind zombies people like you. NK certainly is safer than US, with its medical cares an envy to US(quoted UN WHO Secretary)

  214. AaronB says:
    @Malla

    Thanks, malla. Interesting quote, although I disagree with some of it.

    the effort to grasp everything, and to refer everything to some system of deductions, really robs things of their true meaning;for him, what cannot be discovered is what gives the world its significance.

    After a few years of religious research, this is increasingly my view. It is at once deeply religious but it rejects all formal religion.

    Another good Jew, Wittgenstein, came to the same conclusion.

  215. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Vietnam is a important ally of the USA. Ho Chi Minh’s dream has finally been realized. An economic partner which has adopted core American values as its guiding principles.

    China is the bad guy? Israel is the bad guy. Friend, foe, you don’t know.

    Can you imagine American kids being able to recognize their daily dose of oversimplification propaganda in social media?

  216. SomeGuy says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    I have lived in China and I have observed the behavior of Chinese people.

    You have a Chinese name so I presume you’re Chinese and therefore can’t accept the truth that Chinese people have no empathy for each other, only care about their own family and quickly jew together what they can without limits.

    Only 40 years in, the deck seems almost completely stacked against average Wang in cities like Beijing and Shanghai despite prevailing party policies to limit large housing ownership holdings by few individuals and it took even less time in places that accepted outpouring wealth from China of dubious origins like Vancouver to become completely unaffordable.

    What is “muh dick” for the negro is “muh properties” for the Chinaman who gloats over the woes of the less cunning that has to pay his extortionary rents and lives in deplorable conditions.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    , @Anonymous
  217. Malla says:
    @denk

    ..are continents/islands thousands of miles away from mother England,

    Britain was a naval power. The ocean is it’s borders, owned by no one. And the ocean borders North America, Australia, New Zealand.

    • Replies: @denk
  218. @SomeGuy

    Cool. I have lived in America and I have observed the behavior of all Americans so according to what I can tell, America represents profound whining, gay worship, and a strong anti-intellectual spirit which it proceeds to attempt to forcibly export as universal values upon the world. That’s the same logic which you’re using: its equally bunk because of that.

    So yes, the behavior of post-CR Chinese immediately after the opening up of wealth in China is representative of all Chinese and is a truth for all time and space. So why is it that Taiwan and Singapore, both which are heavily Chinese, remain capable of providing for a middle class that isn’t extortionate in terms of housing?

    You might then wonder, perhaps, specifically who are the kind of Chinese that go to Vancouver and why they behave the way they do. The answer really isn’t that complicated, nor has it been limited to the Chinese. Hint: there is a reason why they’re trying to get out of China.

    Every culture that has had to go through that kind of deprivation creates survivors who ultimately seem harsh and brutal. Its a literal bottleneck effect, and the only way it can improve is through time and realization of values that aren’t survival. And indeed, in a country of that size, the idea that there’s a single overriding culture is pretty silly.

    As noted before: self-refuting nonsense. Live happy in your ignorance, though.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @The Wobbly Guy
  219. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @SomeGuy

    China still has hundreds of millions living in poverty according to the World Bank’s arbitrary $3.10 (2015?) a day measure. The Communist Government (as well as American conservatives) alternatively describe the glass as half full. Most of the urbanites have been levitated out of poverty. Linh wrote that the Chinese are stoic, not like Pol Pot or Mao, just stoic enough.

  220. TT says:
    @denk

    These guys should visit Singapore one of these days, they’d be shocked,

    shocked thinking that they’ve landed in Delhi by mistake !
    Ever since the tiny nation was suckered/bludgeoned by washington./delhi into signing an FTA which contained a sneaky clause to allow unlimited entry by Indian expats and their families , the once first world island has now turned into an unrecognisable third world Indian outpost.

    Getting so Serious? I stayed and worked, but left Singapore some yrs ago. Its flooded with mainland Chinese, Burmese, Vietnamese, Caucasian, Philippinos, but Indians wasn’t too many then.

    From news, it seems SG Gov, statutory boards and corporates are now fully stacked with foreign Indians.

    A Indian Lawyer who used to get scolded by judges for twisting liar become its Law & Foreign Minister. A blur Indian eye specialist become Youth Minister. A Indian charged for leaking state secret become deputy PM, Indian woman as state ministers, Indian President Nadan succeeded by another Indian turn Malay Muslim Pres….many high/appeal/chief court judges all Indians, MAS chief Indian, DBS CEO Indian,…its crazy isn’t it? Like US fully under Israelis Jews control. Wtf you people are voting for such shitty gov?

    Also its shocking to read that while all Singaporean and foreigners had to pay 10% extra fee to curb from owning extra property, all American and Indians are exempted. So US & India companies came in to buy up all prime apartments to rent and sell to Singaporean and expatriates for high return. What a stupid PM you have.

    .so Singapore has become another small shit hole India, no wonder so anti-China and super pro-India pro-US in its msm and policy now. And average IQ is dropping with IQ85 imports.

    I stayed in Sri Lanka 10yrs ago, never see any Indian. But recently always heard its flooded with Moslems and Tamils, exceeding Sinhalese number. In Australia there is a backlash for India WMM, now its China.

    Malla is correct, if the world is not careful with its immigration policy, it will become a shit hole. US already have many Jews & Indians,.. in high position, WH spokesman is Indian Raj Shah, ex-USAid chief, highly honored by India gov for promoting US India soulmating. So Indian farmers are forced to use Monsanto GMO seeds and weedkiller, and electronic payment when few have access to bank.

  221. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    The better people – where ever they are. In the US it’s the doctors and lawyers and judges and business men and women. The ones with nice houses who drive BMWs and Mercedes and don’t open their windows at stop lights with poor people begging. Soon the intelligentsia will demand that the cops ask for everyone’s papers to be safe. The loudest whiners will be arrested by the cops for disorderly complaining. Soon more Americans will become the working poor and realize they’d be better off if they remain quiet at all times, especially the internet – watch their manners otherwise the cops might shoot them in the street.

    “A Republic free from married queers. An armed and moral Republic. And that’s what we get when we standby and watch the humanity get hammered out of our fellow citizens – letting them them be worked cheap and farmed like a human crop for profit. Values have jack to do with politics. But in an obsessively religious nation, values remain the most effective smoke screen for larceny by the rich and hatred and fear by the rest.”

    • Replies: @Anon
  222. @TT

    While it is true that there are many foreigners in Singapore the current government does keep the number gaining citizenship relatively small, and has done a good job regarding illegal migration (canning + deportation). In contrast some opposition parties want more liberal citizenship requirements.

  223. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Is this an AI-generated post? ‘Cause I have to say: Pretty good work.

  224. Malla says:
    @denk

    Its nuthin but a glorified mafiaso outfit !

    The UN is the precursor for a one world government, just like the League of Nations before it. The elite bankers finance WW1, finance both sides, encourage both sides to go crazy and go to war, make money from war and then say to the world in innocent tone, ‘The world needs a world body to prevent mindless war, we need a world body’.
    The trick is ‘Create the problem in the first place and then offer the solution in your own favour’ .

    Similarly ofter WW2, Third Reich Germany forced into war by Great Britain/France (bankers controlling these countries), Japanese Empire encouraged to attack Pearl harbour. WW2. Hitler, who was biggest threat to bankers crushed. Bankers then cry ‘The world needs a world body to prevent mindless war, we need a world body more powerful than League of Nations’. So we get U.N.

    American nationalists have always been warning about U.N. as a pre One World government system.

    The American Nationalist John Birch Society has always been calling to get the U.S. out of the United Nations.

    https://www.jbs.org/action-projects/get-us-out-of-the-united-nations

    “Get US Out! of the United Nations has been the signature campaign of The John Birch Society for over 50 years. The global power elites view the UN as their main vehicle for establishing, step by step, a socialistic global government controlled by themselves. Now, more than ever, we need to get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US. Each year, we gain more support to Get US Out! ”

    What many do not know that the Rothschilds, was planning a ‘League of Nations’ a long time ago even before 1900s. He was stopped only by the Romanovs of Russia. From that time onwards, the Rothschilds have been using Jews in Russia, to attack the Tsars of Russia until we get the October Revolution.

    The plan is
    WW1–>Destruction of many Empires, League of Nations created & Balfour Declaration for creation of Israel.
    WW2–> Destruction of many Empires, League of Nations gives way to United Nations and creation of baby Israel
    WW3–>Destruction of USA, China, Russia and other European powers, Japan etc…
    U.N. gives way to One World Government ruled by elites, Creation of Greater Israel, the only superpower in the World.
    That is how it seems to be going. Now you understand why America (ooops…I mean Wall street bankers) is pushing for war with China/Russia. They want WW3 fast.
    hehehehe

  225. @Malla

    Malla says:
    I can understand your point, you are correct. You keep on posting how the Whites are just as bad as anybody. But compared to the standards of the rest of the world where clannishness is basic norm, Western societies and peoples have shown more incidents of self criticism than most other societies.
    —————————————————————

    What you say is basically accurate. Just wanted to point out how misguided the notion is of the perfect West, where all is pious merit, openness, free inquiry, free markets, impartial justice and sweetness and light. Its like the Irish back in the day who condemned Chinese “clannishness” even as they produced some of the most clannish and corrupt political behavior in the US.

    .
    “The second repealed all the standing laws which kept Jews from the normal pursuits of the kingdom. Under these new statutes Jews could even lease land for a period of fifteen years and work it.”

    @ malla
    But notice the limitations slapped on the Jew n your example. He could only lease land up to 15 years, not own it outright and pass it on to his descendants. This confirms my point that the Jews were never able to establish a substantial land base in their disaporan scattering. They had to go urban to stay afloat, just as the Chinese in the US had to go urban to say afloat when whites drove them out of agriculture, mining and other rural associated venues. When they did get a chance for SIGNIFICANT land ownership they took advantage of it.

    • Replies: @Malla
  226. Malla says:
    @denk

    The Africans know who’s their friends and who’s screwing them.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/china-seen-by-africans-as-partners-america-and-europe-seen-as-predators/31731

    They wanna know why AQ and co keep getting stronger even tho the murkkans
    have been fighting them in Africa and elsewhere since 2001 !

    Surprise surprise, turns out the murkkans have been playing both sides, paying ‘moslem terrorists’ to fight murkkan trained military !

    AQ/BOKO HARAM/ISIS/
    The gift that keeps on giving,
    hhehehhe

    Must be ‘concidence’ while the great satan is supposedly kicking the terrorists ass, its the Chinese who keep getting shot at in Sudan, Mali….!

    During the days of Rhodesia, Portuguese Empire etc…, you were with Uncle Sam and Soviet. Now you are becoming targets just like how the Rhodesians and Portuguese became targets earlier. Karma is a biatch.
    hehehehehe……

    • Replies: @denk
  227. Malla says:
    @EnrriqueCardova

    how misguided the notion is of the perfect West, where all is pious merit, openness, free inquiry, free markets, impartial justice and sweetness and light.

    I agree with you on this, the West was definitely not perfect. It was/is imperfect but the rest of the world was more or less, worse, however I would agree that in some particular characteristics were better than the West. But I guess every civilization tries to push such an image of perfection. Muslims, Indians, Chinese, Africans all rewrite ‘nationalistic history’ to show how perfect their civilisation was before European/Japanese/Islamic colonialism.
    For example in the Indian subcontinent Hindus project history about how Hindu India was this perfect place of morality and justice and prosperity before the Muslims and Europeans came. How Islamic rule and british rule destroyed this Utopia/Golden age. Muslim subcontinentals on the other hand consider the Islamic period as this perfect place of morality and justice and prosperity before the British Era. Every party tries to project the perfection of their civilization/history.

    But notice the limitations slapped on the Jew n your example. He could only lease land up to 15 years, not own it outright and pass it on to his descendants.

    But ahead Mr. Roth states
    “Edward advanced this as a test of the Jew’s sincerity when he claimed that all he wanted was an opportunity to work like other people. If they proved their fitness to live like other people, the inference was that Edward would let them buy land outright and admit them to the higher privileges of citizenship.”
    The inference was understood by everyone at that time. If the Jews proved to be sincere in becoming a farming people, they could buy out the land and become full citizens. What would King Edward get by having Jews in his kingdom just farm for mere 15 years? What long term solution would it solve?
    Those 15 years was a test where the behaviour of Jews would be observed, their sincerity would be observed. Not a single Jewish person took the offer. King Edward was the ruler of his realm, the welfare of the English people was his duty, he would have to be careful in giving English land to the Jews. It would have been naive to just give it outright to a people who had such a bad reputation of exploiting peasants.

    • Replies: @EnrriqueCardova
  228. gT says:
    @denk

    Malla at least makes sense and tries to get to the truth. You on the other hand are nothing but fake news trying to confuse matters, trying to distract from the truth. Make that fong kong news trying to confuse matters, trying to distract from the truth.

    And the truth is that the US and China, the Jews of the West and the Jews of the East, had a plan of world domination based on globalization, the New World Order, with the Jews in the West thinking that they would be in control eventually while the Jews in the East thought that they would be in charge eventually. Only Russia ruined the party by refusing to kowtow, and you kind of can’t rule the world when the biggest country in the goddamn world doesn’t comply. So now alliances are breaking down and reforming, breaking down and reforming, and there is plenty of fake news and fong kong news trying to confuse and distract, while contingency plans get drafted and discarded.

    • Replies: @denk
  229. Malla says:
    @denk

    EVIL INDIANS ARE ALWAYS SOULMATES OF EVIL AMERICA AGAINST INNOCENT CHINESE, huh? Shall we go to 1971, the Bangladeshi war of liberation??? eh. Want to go over that episode again.

    During Indo Pak war of 1971, the year Bangladesh got independence from West Pakistan, USA, Great Britain and even China were against India and may have attacked India in support of Pakistan. Only the Soviet Union saved India by proclaiming to the world, ‘declaring war on India was equal to declaring war on Soviet Union’ and dispatching Soviet submarines to stop American and British fleets dispatched to attack India.
    West Pakistani forces raped and killed scores of East Pakistanis/Bangladeshis in 1971 yet China with USA and Britain supported Pakistani dictators. China the benevolent middle kingdom!!!

    Archer Blood who was the American Consul General to Dhaka, Bangladesh (East Pakistan at the time). He is famous for sending the strongly worded “Blood Telegram” protesting against the atrocities committed in the Bangladesh Liberation War by Pakistani forces on Bengalis.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archer_Blood

    The Blood telegram (April 6, 1971) was seen as the most strongly worded expression of dissent in the history of the U.S. Foreign Service.[4][5] It was signed by 20 members of the diplomatic staff.[6] The telegram stated:

    Our government has failed to denounce the suppression of democracy. Our government has failed to denounce atrocities. Our government has failed to take forceful measures to protect its citizens while at the same time bending over backwards to placate the West Pak[istan] dominated government and to lessen any deservedly negative international public relations impact against them. Our government has evidenced what many will consider moral bankruptcy,(…) But we have chosen not to intervene, even morally, on the grounds that the Awami conflict, in which unfortunately the overworked term genocide is applicable, is purely an internal matter of a sovereign state. Private Americans have expressed disgust. We, as professional civil servants, express our dissent with current policy and fervently hope that our true and lasting interests here can be defined and our policies redirected.

    (U.S. Consulate (Dacca) Cable, Dissent from U.S. Policy Toward East Pakistan, April 6, 1971, Confidential, 5 pp. Includes Signatures from the Department of State. Source: RG 59, SN 70-73 Pol and Def. From: Pol Pak-U.S. To: Pol 17-1 Pak-U.S. Box 2535;)[7]
    In an earlier telegram (March 27, 1971), Blood wrote about American observations at Dhaka under the subject heading “Selective genocide”:
    1. Here in Decca we are mute and horrified witnesses to a reign of terror by the Pak[istani] Military. Evidence continues to mount that the MLA authorities have list of AWAMI League supporters whom they are systematically eliminating by seeking them out in their homes and shooting them down
    2. Among those marked for extinction in addition to the A.L. hierarchy are student leaders and university faculty. In this second category we have reports that Fazlur Rahman head of the philosophy department and a Hindu, M. Abedin, head of the department of history, have been killed. Razzak of the political science department is rumored dead. Also on the list are the bulk of MNA’s elect and number of MPA’s.
    3. Moreover, with the support of the Pak[istani] Military. non-Bengali Muslims are systematically attacking poor people’s quarters and murdering Bengalis and Hindus.
    (U.S. Consulate (Dacca) Cable, Selective genocide, March 27, 1971)
    Even today Bangladeshis think highly of Arthur Blood. “When Archer K. Blood died last month, in retirement in Colorado, there was family, a few old friends and an entire nation to mourn his passing, but the nation that grieved for him was not his own. It was Bangladesh.”[1] His death made headlines in Bangladesh, but was lucky to make it to the back pages of the obituary sections in American newspapers. Bangladesh sent a delegation to the funeral in Fort Collins and Mrs. Blood received numerous communiques from Bangladeshis.

    From http://www.theworldreporter.com/2011/10/1971-india-pakistan-war-role-of-russia.html

    This brought China in the picture. US needed help from China and the messenger was Pakistan. US approached China very secretly on this issue, who was more than welcoming as it believed that their relations with US could improve from this onward.
    .During the second week of July, 1971, Kissinger arrived in Beijing, where he heard the words by then Chinese Prime Minister Zhou Enlai: “In our opinion, if India continues on its present course in disregard of world opinion, it will continue to go on recklessly. We, however, support the stand of Pakistan. This is known to the world. If they [the Indians] are bent on provoking such a situation, then we cannot sit idly by.’ On this, Kissinger responded that China should know that the US also backs Pakistan on this issue.
    Indira Gandhi, the Indian prime minister in those times decided to tour most of the Western capitals to prove Indian stand and gain support and sympathy for the Bengalis of East Pakistan. On November 4th and 5th she met Nixon in Washington. Nixon straight forwardly told her that a new war in the subcontinent was out of the question.
    The next day, Nixon and Kissinger assessed the situation. Kissinger told Nixon: ‘The Indians are bastards anyway. They are plotting a war.’

    So the Chinese decided to support the Pakistanis who were murdering Bengalis in East Pakistan as the Blood telegram showed. China became soulmate of the USA in opposing and threatening India. SO MUCH FOR THE PROPAGANDA HERE by denk THAT EVIL INDIANS ARE ALWAYS SOULMATES OF EVIL AMERICA AGAINST INNOCENT CHINESE. Here we see PRC soulmatey of USA in support of murderous Pakistani regime and threatening India.
    Indian PM Indra Gandhi, showed China, Great Britain and USA the middle finger and sent in the Indian Army to the shock of USA, Britain and China. It resulted in the freedom of Bangladesh and the biggest defeat of Pakistan military’s history.

    LOL LOL LOL
    …continued in next post

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  230. Malla says:
    @Malla

    continued further

    Further we read
    On December 10, Nixon instructed Kissinger to ask the Chinese to move some troops toward the Indian frontier. ‘Threaten to move forces or move them, Henry, that’s what they must do now.’ China feared any action on India might attract Soviet aggression. At this, US assured China that any action taken by Soviet Union will be countered by US to protect China.
    So only the fear of Soviet action stopped China from taking action against us. Wow.
    further we read from

    http://www.theworldreporter.com/2011/10/1971-india-pakistan-war-role-of-russia.html

    Vladimir Kruglyakov, the former (1970-1975) Soviet Commander of the 10th Operative Battle Group (Pacific Fleet) remembers:
    “I was ordered by the Chief Commander to track the British Navy’s advancement, I positioned our battleships in the Bay of Bengal and watched for the British carrier “Eagle”.
    But Soviet Union didn’t have enough force to resist if they encountered the British Carrier. Therefore, to support the existing Soviet fleet in the Bay of Bengal, Soviet cruisers, destroyers and nuclear submarines, equipped with anti ship missiles, were sent from Vladivostok.
    In reaction English Navy retreated and went South to Madagascar.
    Soon the news of American carrier Enterprise and USS Tripoli’s advancement towards Indian water came.
    V. Kruglyakov “ I had obtained the order from the commander-in-chief not to allow the advancement of the American fleet to the military bases of India”
    We encircled them and aimed the missiles at the ‘Enterprise’. We had blocked their way and didn’t allow them to head anywhere, neither to Karachi, nor to Chittagong or Dhaka”.
    The Soviet ships had small range rockets (only upto 300 KM). Therefore, to hold the opponent under the range, commanders ran risks of going as near to the enemy as possible.
    “The Chief Commander had ordered me to lift the submarines and bring them to the surface so that it can be pictured by the American spy satellites or can be seen by the American Navy!’ It was done to demonstrate, that we had all the needed things in Indian Ocean, including the nuclear submarines. I had lifted them, and they recognized it. Then, we intercepted the American communication. The commander of the Carrier Battle Group was then the counter-admiral Dimon Gordon. He sent the report to the 7th American Fleet Commander: ‘Sir, we are too late. There are Russian nuclear submarines here, and a big collection of battleships’.
    Americans returned and couldn’t do anything. Soviet Union had also threatened China that, if they ever opened a front against India on its border, they will receive a tough response from North.
    And ALSO SRI LANKA HELPED THE PAKISTANIS AGAINST US and Bangladeshis even after we requested them not to. So much for denk about how Indian screws Sri Lanka for their past mistake.
    So let me get this straight, USA, China and Great Britain became soul matey with Pakistan, the same Pakistani dictators who were killing innocent East Pakistanis/Bengalis. Even American consulate Arthur Blood (even today considered a nation hero by Bangladeshis) sent a telegram about West Pakistani brutality and condemning the U.S. government support for West Pakistan. China, USA and UK wanted to threaten India, India showed all three the middle finger and sent in the Indian Army in support of Bengalis, decimating the Pakistani Army, while the American, British and Chinese leadership haplessly watched from the sidelines. It was only Soviet action which stopped China, USA and UK from taking action on India, on us.
    90,000 Pakistanis soldiers surrendered to the Indian Army while benevolent Middle Kingdom China, evil USA and evil Britain sat and watched haplessly.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Pakistani_War_of_1971

    hehehehehehe

  231. @Malla

    Point taken but when you look at the whole deal it is quite understandable why the Jews would not rush to take it. It was not only the land but a raft of other restrictions made the land deal not as sweet as it sounds. Thus the Statute of Jewry stipulates:

    -Usury was outlawed in every form.
    -Debtors of Jews were no longer liable for certain debts.
    -Jews were not allowed to live outside certain cities and towns.
    -Any Jew above the age of seven had to wear a yellow badge of felt on his or her outer clothing,
    -All Jews from the age of 12 on had to pay a special tax of three pence annually.
    -Christians were forbidden to live among Jews.
    -Jews were licensed to buy farmland to make their living for the next 15 years.
    -Jews could thenceforth make a living in England only as merchants, farmers, craftsmen or soldiers.

    Basically the deal killed the Jews main occupation as moneylenders, and loans made would not all be repaid. There were restrictions on movement and the social stigma of being marked off as an enemy alien. The land opportunity was a lease not full ownership and required 15 years in an unfavorable position, with no real guarantees that the terms would not be changed at whim by the king.

    Also importantly, if the Jews were to become a viable peasantry of yeoman farmers they would ideally have to live away from the various towns to which they were officially confined and constantly monitored. Most peasant farmers at the time in England lived in dispersed rural settlements, under the thumb of various feudal landlords. Thus the Statute of the Jewry with its limitations on movement, actually hindered the Jews from becoming a viable class of noble yeoman farmers. In fact Roth shows that periodic arrest warrants were issued to round up Jews who had strayed from their designated towns or cities.

    And even if allowed out of a designated Jew settlement, almost the only land option was to become a lowly peasant on one of the feudal estates, which carried its own set of restrictions, on top of the Jew restrictions already in place. They would still be segregated away from everyone else, under the medieval thumb of lord or church estate- people who hated their religion- a rather unpalatable prospect. Another possible land option was for the ex- Jewish moneylenders to become landlords, but this would put them in a superior position over Gentiles who ultimately be doing most of the work for the Jew bossman – an intolerable state of affairs.

    Given this situation it is not surprising that most Jews were unable or unwilling to jump into farming in any substantial way.

  232. Malla says:
    @TT

    Denk got it wrong. The alliance is not necessarily an Anglo Indian alliance, It is a Jewish-Hindu upper caste alliance against Whites in the West, muslims in middle East, against China as well as lower caste poors in India, against everybody else basically. Upper caste Hindus especially Brahmin’s are similar to Jews (these brahmins are not like ancient Aryan priests of Vedic Hinduism, they behaved like today’s Anglos, today we have mystery Babylon mixed with original Aryan vedic religion (as well as Tibetan Bon and tribal Indian religions) which gives us Puritanic Hinduism, dominant Hinduism today that you see in India), they love cheating swindling, believe themselves Gods on Earth, love spreading rumours, lying, creating complicated phy op ideology and religions to enslave others mentally so that others can work for them as slaves while they rule. Basically similar to Jews. Purannic Hinduism (common today in India) is similar to Mystery Babylon, Talmudic ideology, Zohar and Kaballah.

    Not only that, upper caste Hindus are basically second grade Jews and lower caste Hindus are gypsies. What is a Gypsy if not a Jew with low IQ? Or a Jew, a Gypsy with high IQ.
    Second grade Jews ..er… upper caste Hindu worship the real Jews, more than the Christian Zionists. This is because Jews repeatedly cheat, swindle Hindus themselves. Hindus only respect great swindler than themselves. Brahmins laugh at Jesus Christ and Buddha. Both are fools according to them. How can they be gods? Rabbi Moshe the diamond dealer is how god should be, using superior intellect to cheat swindle weak people.

    It is Jews/ Freemasons along with their Brahman/ bania (merchant) allies who played a big part in destroying Anglo rule in India (Research Edwin Samuel Montagu, the Jewish Secretary of State of India, who wrote that the British Government will itself create Indian nationalism and eventually give independence). The Anglo side of the British Empire were seen as protectors of the Indian poor against upper caste Hindus. Jews and upper caste Hindus/Freemasons etc… work together to remove Anglo from picture, poor Indian farmers exposed. India being a Communist Soviet ally, Indians one day being exported en mass around the world as henchemen of the Jews, all this was decided long time ago even before WW1, this is a long time plan. That is why you see many American tech companies and Financial companies with Indian CEOs. Being outsiders they will be loyal to Jews and not have any feelings for Whites, black Americans. Same with Indians in Great Britain and Singapore. Indian elites help Jewish elites run America, UK etc, to keep Whitey masses down and in return give Jewish banking run corporations the channel to exploit poor Indian farmers in return deal. Win Win for both.

    In Western Europe, I have seen the same thing as Singapore, native Whites are second class citizens and the elites use Indians, muslims and blacks to keep the native White masses down. Just like how the Catholic Polish elites used Jews as intermediaries in their rule over Orthodox Ukrainians in the Polish -Lithuanian Empire. In Britain, I saw foreigners, Indian/ Nigerian families given advantage over native working class Whites, even retired old Whites in housing.

    I think PAP in Singapore might be doing the same. Importing Indians en mass to take the role of what Jews had in Polish Empire in Ukraine. To be intermediaries in between Singapore PAP elites and majority Singaporeans who have worked so hard building the city state.

    Besides there is one more phenomenon at work. Singapore is becoming an elite city. Many cities in the Anglo Saxon world, Singapore and Dubai are becoming elite cities. Elites from third world or other first world countries loot their own countries and buy houses in these cities. Example are London (Great Britain), Vancouver (Canada), Perth/Sydney/Melbourne (Australia), Auckland (New Zealand), Singapore, Dubai (UAE), many American cities. Recently even second tier cities of Britain other than London such as Manchester and Birmingham are being targeted for this. These cities are/were built up first world cities built by first world populations (except Dubai), clean and efficient unlike third world populated hellhole megalopolises. So third world elites loot their own countries and come and settle in these cities, buy property. This is harmful for both common man of Anglo World/Singapore and third world. The Third world people are looted and the money goes out of country and common man Anglos cannot buy houses in their own cities as rent/ property tax/property price is too high. Soon these cities will become like Brazilian cities, where elites will coexist with brown black servant classes in ghettos with no middle class, ironically they will become third world megalopolises. You will be surprised how rich Nigerians and Indians are buying up Dubai property lately. Singapore is becoming such a city for elite Indians. Also Singapore has become a tax heaven to reroute black money (illegal) of India back into India as White laundered money. Earlier Mauritius was used for this. If you see, Foreign Direct Investment in India, tiny Mauritius has big investment in India as much as big economies like Britain or Japan. How is that possible? That is not investment but Indian illegal money of Indian elites being rerouted back to India using shell companies in Mauritius. Recently Singapore is also taking a part of that rerouting money laundering business and hence Singapore government likes Indian elites, this rerouting business/ money laundering also makes money for local banks.

  233. Malla says:
    @denk

    Not the Chinese cup of tea ,
    hehehehe

    But China is a permanent member of the security council, a VETO power. Japan, Germany and India are not.
    Why would the elites give that power to People’s Republic of China? Unless Communist China was created in 1945 to fulfill some roles in the elite master plan.

    hehehehe

  234. Karl says:
    @Anonymous

    8 anonymous > Don’t forget the Indians

    women almost as fat as blacks

  235. Karl says:
    @Anon

    78 Anon > almost all Burmese esp intellectual i met hate China blindly, complaining how China bully and grabed all their resources, sell them junks

    their punishment for having done the exact same to the Rakhines.

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  236. Karl says:

    the Viets do love their cream in their coffee. That’s what happens when you’re colonized by Frogs and not by Ottomans.

    If Linh Dinh was/is putting ACTUAL cream in his coffee in Vietnam, it’s a 70% chance that it came from an Israeli-established & managed dairy farm

  237. @Orwellian State

    Orwellian State says:
    The Jews are idealistic to a fault, while the Chinese are the exact opposite, pragmatic to a fault.

    This is too broad brush a statement. The Jews are very, very pragmatic. Hence the Jewish money lender in medieval times was not squeamish about doing business with anyone, even the abbeys, churches and monasteries, his religious enemies that attacked Jews vigorously as part of their religious spiel. Several of these religious organizations were in such debt that they had to appeal to the kings to unilaterally cancel their debts owed to Jews. As long as the coin was real gold or silver, the pragmatic Jew would do bidniss. Other than that, you are correct as to Jewish verbal intelligence etc. But also keep in mind that the Jews have been much closer to the main currents of Western culture, via the key area of the Middle East, and then the Mediterranean zone. And you are correct that the Chinese generally are not as confrontational.

    .
    Some guy says:
    Having lived in China, Chinese people generally lack morals and ethics, which gives some an edge eventually wherever they go as lots of them can grind work relentlessly as well with little desire for western luxuries like entertainment, culture or even sex beyond the occasional pay for play. Business deals usually resemble bait and switch scams where what you see / what was promised is never what you get and everything has to be reneged later on at a higher price.

    The Chinese are no more unethical than white Europeans, as the trail of broken treaties with each other, as well as indigenous non-European peoples well attest. In Europe itself the “perfidious” in “perfidious Albion” pretty much sums up the a lot of history, and not just Britain’s. The Chinese are just not as hypocritical about their bait and switch as Europeans.

    .
    Malla says:
    The mighty gun-power of China and Russia is trained against them, and so is the vast moneypower of America (which paid for Russian and Chinese armaments in the first place and seems itself to be drifting toward a Communist takeover). In the operations room at the House of Helots (U.N.) the attack on South West (today’s Namibia) is next on the drawing board.

    This is nothing special. The revolutionaries had to get arms and money from somewhere. If the Chinese were willing to help, then hey- people would take the help. Politics 101. The Soviets were glad to take aid from the Western capitalists and imperialists when the Germans were cleaning their clocks in WW2. Likewise the US was glad to supply aid to communist guerrillas in the Balkans to tie down enemy troops, and was glad to supply aid to Mao in China and aid to one Nguyen Ai Quoc, aka Ho Chi Minh in Vietnam, for the same service. Said US was also happy to reeive aid from the French when fighting Britain for independence.

    .
    byrresheim says:
    Actually, the german population of eastern Europe has been cleansed of the map. Those who were not massacred or driven out directly after the war were relocated in the 80ies and 90ies. There is some talk of three million dead german civilians in eastern Europe immediately after the war, but that is certainly propaganda put forth by adherents of the Austrian corporal.

    Sure there were mass expulsions of Germans after the war in the East. After the Fuehrer’s massive “cleansing” operations against Poles, Slavs and other uttermensch, it was too late in the day for chivalry when the war ended. As thou sowest, so shalt thou reap.

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  238. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @SomeGuy

    >If Singapore doesn’t turn into Dheli 2.0 it’ll turn into caged housing like in Hong Kong for the masses instead.

    This is an entirely ridiculous statement. As somebody who lives here, I can say with absolute certainty that Singapore’s public housing system is one of the best in the world. The housing development board constructs tens of thousands of units of public housing every year, and buying a home is quite affordable. A three-bedroom apartment, like the one I live in right now costs around $400,000, in a neighborhood near the city center, in a housing complex with built-up amenities like a school, a clinic, a shopping center, a MRT stop, wet markets/hawker centers, etc.

    In other cities I’ve lived in (Toronto, New York, San Francisco/Bay Area), this would be absolutely unthinkable. My parents and many of my old friends are still in Toronto, and they tell me about the ridiculous heights that the property market there has reached in recent years. It’s almost impossible to find a house going for under $1 million. Even a one bedroom condominium in Scarborough (which to non-Torontonians, is the suburban east end of the city, where most of the population is Caribbean and South Asian, with a few Chinese) goes for around $300,000. In the eloquent words of one of my friends when I went to visit over the winter holidays, “the mandem are fried, fam.”

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  239. @Duke of Qin

    20% semi competent. Half a standard deviation below white means. Your basic mercantile castes. Basically the equivalent of Levantine Arabs. What they lack in competence they make up for in doubling down on the ethnic nepotism and self dealing. Mediocre on their own, but highly parasitical in more open (less clannish) societies allowing them to fill an economic niche. Your Patel motel owners. A lot of Indians from the UK come from this category via way of Africa and also prevalent in SE Asia.

    Actually, in the UK, Indians (suprisingly) exceed the White British in educational attainment and income. Their incarceration rates are lower too. Also, on cognitive testing, their children perform at the White mean. Indians are exceptionally over represented in British medical colleges, but their pass rate is lower than the White average.

    You might be surprised to know that a large fraction of UK Indians are of untouchable origin and come from the rural northern villages. According to the research I’ve seen, their economic and academic performance is similar to that of the White British. I was shocked to see that.

    The UK Pakistanis and Bangladeshis come from more rural backgrounds than the Indians. Interestingly, both groups academically perform similarly to the White British. On the cognitive testing of children, both groups score about 1/3 of a standard deviation lower. Given that South Asian Muslims practice cousin marriage (which depresses IQ), that might be a factor to consider.

    Toronto (Canada) has a large number of Indian subcontinentals from non-elite backgrounds. Their children score at roughly the White mean on standardized tests. Their national incarceration rate is lower than the White average. However, their incomes are also below the national average (this income gap disappears in the second generation).

    75% incompetent. Probably a full standard deviation below. These are your typical violent incompetent turd world nincompoops. Basically your dumber form of Arab, the ones with not insignificant sub-Saharan admixture like say Egyptians. These people Westerners will never see unless they travel to India.

    Indians don’t have significant subsaharan African mixture. They’re also not “dumber” than Arabs. Most of the jobs in the Gulf states (professional, entrepreneurial, skilled and unskilled labor) are done by Indian subcontinentals. Not native or even imported Arabs. They’re clearly much brighter than Arabs.

    There lots of lower caste Indians in Singapore and Malaysia. They were brought as laborers generations ago. I believe they economically outperform the Malays (who receive affirmative action), but underperform the Chinese (who get no affirmative action). According to the statistics I’ve seen, they’re roughly half way between both groups on various measures.

    5% – competent. Essentially Brahmans close to the white mean, Heavily verbal skewed so you’ll find them in the same niches as Jews; Finance, Media, Government, Academia. Any industry where bullshit and social networking is more important than delivering results. This formed the bulk of immigration to the West.

    At least in America, Indians are mostly in IT/software/tech. Not verbal fields. The second generation are moving into some of those verbal fields, but I wouldn’t say that Indians skew verbal. They seem roughly equal on verbal and quant. Asians have more of a quant skew. Jews have more of a verbal skew.

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  240. denk says:
    @Malla

    Im sure the Chicoms must be quaking in their boots,
    hehehe !

    war nerd on the IAF…..

    http://exiledonline.com/war-nerd-fag-vs-fag-the-india-pakistan-phoney-war/

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  241. denk says:
    @TT

    *Getting so Serious? I stayed and worked, but left Singapore some yrs ago. Its flooded with mainland Chinese, Burmese, Vietnamese, Caucasian, Philippinos, but Indians wasn’t too many then.

    Like I say, you should pay a visit one day, you’d be overwhelmed left, right and centre !

    From news, it seems SG Gov, statutory boards and corporates are now fully stacked with foreign Indians.
    *A Indian Lawyer who used to get scolded by judges for twisting liar become its Law & Foreign Minister. A blur Indian eye specialist become Youth Minister. A Indian charged for leaking state secret become deputy PM, Indian woman as state ministers, Indian President Nadan succeeded by another Indian turn Malay Muslim Pres….many high/appeal/chief court judges all Indians, MAS chief Indian, DBS CEO Indian,…its crazy isn’t it? Like US fully under Israelis Jews control. Wtf you people are voting for such shitty gov?

    Dont you people me !
    I got nuthin to do with it !

    Havent you heard of tyranny of the majority ?
    Thats the trouble with ‘democracies’, aka fukusi[ndia], the five eyes, jp, sg……
    where 70% who’r sheeples/morons call the shot ultimately.

    P.S.
    Dont be surprised , an Indian PM aspirant is waiting in the wing !
    Now That will be the day,
    A made in washington/delhi, Indian run , unsinkable aircrat carrier squatting at China’s jugular !
    hehehheheh

    *Also its shocking to read that while all Singaporean and foreigners had to pay 10% extra fee to curb from owning extra property, all American and Indians are exempted. So US & India companies came in to buy up all prime apartments to rent and sell to Singaporean and expatriates for high return. What a stupid PM you have.

    Blaming the ‘compradors’ is getting it ass backwards.

    Ask yourself,
    Why do the mighty Germans also succumb to washington’s dictat
    to antagonise Russia ,which’s a vital energy source ?
    What about France, the Dutch……?
    Why does Oz keep poking the dragon’s eyes when Aussie economy depends on
    a prosperous China ?
    Why does Seoul wanna pisss off its largest market when China pose no threat to SK ?
    The list goes on….

    You think they’r all stupid, Merkels, Macron, Roh…..?

    Its all about survival ,they dont wann get bumped off. !

    The Zio/Wasp/Indian One World tyranny dictates that all ‘allies’ should jump to uncle sham’s tune , even if it means shooting themselves in the foot, or else,…
    We’ll send in the jackals !

    *.so Singapore has become another small shit hole India, no wonder so anti-China and super pro-India pro-US in its msm and policy now. And average IQ is dropping with IQ85 imports.

    I stayed in Sri Lanka 10yrs ago, never see any Indian. But recently always heard its flooded with Moslems and Tamils, exceeding Sinhalese number. In Australia there is a backlash for India WMM, now its China.

    In Oz, its more than Chinese immigrants,
    While washington is going all out, full spectrum B.S. on the Russiangate,
    Canberra has gone berserk beating the drum on ‘foreign interference’, read ‘yellow peril’ !
    See, there’s kinda like division of labor, to unite the five eyes sheeples/morons against that twin Russkies/chicoms terror !

    heheheh

    *Malla is correct, if the world is not careful with its immigration policy, it will become a shit hole. US already have many Jews & Indians,.. in high position, WH spokesman is Indian Raj Shah, ex-USAid chief, highly honored by India gov for promoting US India soulmating. So Indian farmers are forced to use Monsanto GMO seeds and weedkiller, and electronic payment when few have access to bank.

    Its not that a govn is ‘careless’ in its immigration policy which lets in a hordes of WMM, its engineered from above, the Zio/Wasp/Indian overlords want a white genocided and yellow genocided world under its thumb,

    like I say, the murkkan hierachy is currently like so…

    Wasp./Zio/Indians
    Western Euros/ Jp
    other Euros
    Latins
    Chinks./gooks/others

    Yet John Derbyshire and other morons keep whining on the ‘Chinese overclass’,sometimes I wonder if he’s a shill on a diversion mission. ?

    hehehe

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  242. Malla says:
    @EnrriqueCardova

    The Chinese are no more unethical than white Europeans, as the trail of broken treaties with each other, as well as indigenous non-European peoples well attest. In Europe itself the “perfidious” in “perfidious Albion” pretty much sums up the a lot of history, and not just Britain’s. The Chinese are just not as hypocritical about their bait and switch as Europeans.

    Not true at all. In general Northern Europeans do tend to lie and cheat a lot less than third worlders. I am not saying 100% of them are perfect but the percentage of people who lie and cheat often are much less than third worlders. This is something we Indians accept amongst ourselves quite grudgingly.
    Statecraft may be different. There seems to be a big difference in between people and government. As far as perfidious Albion, well there was a lot of influence on Britain of bankers like the Rothschild families when this term was coined.
    In my experience blacks lie the most (again not 100%) and we Indians are not very far behind.
    During the British Raj, Indians would pay extra to court officials for a British judge rather than an Indian judge as British judges were considered more honest and fair.

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  243. Malla says:
    @denk

    http://exiledonline.com/war-nerd-fag-vs-fag-the-india-pakistan-phoney-war/

    Yeah, but the 1971 war was different. Still China could do nothing but to sit and watch haplessly as their ally Pakistan was defeated nice and easy. Nor could China’s deep soulmates America and Britain do anything. Chicoms sure quaked in their boots when they thought of the Soviets.

    It seems the Henry Kissinger and the Chinese leadership only saw nightmares involving middle fingers for months afterwords. Middle finger given to them by an Indian woman!

    Sri Lanka always helped our enemy against us. Now they get screwed. Karma is a bitch. Those blackie shits need more screwing for licking Pakistan’s ass.

    hehehehe

    • Replies: @denk
    , @denk
  244. denk says:
    @Malla

    Me ?
    I’ve got nuthin to do with what allegedly happened in Rhodesia decades ago,
    which had nuthing to do with the current carnage wrought by the fraudulent War OF Terror ?

    You’r getting your priorities ass backward,
    hehhehhehe

    The world should be united against the fraudulent War OF Terror,
    Exhibit Sudan….

    ‘the USA via the CIA has been paying the salaries of the South Sudanese Army (SPLA) since 2009. In other words, both the soldiers (“rebels”) supporting riek Machar and the soldier supporting President Salva Kiir are being paid by the USA, paid to kill each other? ‘

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2014/01/23/the-usa-v-china-in-south-sudan/

    • Replies: @Malla
  245. denk says:
    @Malla

    I already conceded, when it comes to land grab, you win hands down.

    So when whiteys yap about TW, Tibet…..

    Its classic anglo/Indian style,

    Robber crying out robbery !

    hhhhhhh

  246. @Daniel Chieh

    I blame the Cultural Revolution for destroying what remained of the ethical roots of chinese culture (Confucianism, Taoism, Legalism – they’re not the best foundation for developmental ethics, but they’re also all we had then). Add in the deprivation, the cannibalism, the starvation, and what was left of the chinese people when Deng started his reforms were an amoral lot seeking wealth and fortune at any cost. Can’t really blame them.

    Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Singapore fared better because we still held some vestiges of traditional culture. HK and Sg particularly so when British systems were layered on top.

    It’s gonna be a long time before the Chinese people as a whole regain some semblance of socially-useful morality – noblesse oblige and the sort. I suspect that’s what the ruling CCP is concerned about nowadays – what happens after you get rich? Maybe that’s why Xi Jinping is focusing on corruption and harmony – he’s trying to rebuild an ethical culture which had been lost.

    There’s certainly some bent in PRC media towards these in recent years. My mom’s currently hooked on some PRC talk show that tries to reconcile quarreling families. I’m sure there are others lauding philanthropic works by rich chinese.

    • Agree: Daniel Chieh
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  247. Linh Dinh says:
    As smart and successful immigrants to be found in many countries, Chinese and Jews have often been compared, but there are many key differences between them. Unlike Jews, Chinese are not dominant in media, education, government or banking in their host countries. Native children are not taught to despise themselves for having wronged the Chinese, and Chinese don’t produce or host television or radio shows that mock the locals. There is no Chinese Howard Stern or Jerry Springer. Unlike Israel, the Chinese’ ancestral homeland’s survival is not dependent on the support of a heavily manipulated and indoctrinated client state.”
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    Sure there are some differences between Chinese and Jews (which no one denies) but there are also key similarities, like their key “middleman minority” status amidst hostile host populations. And if native Vietnamese are not taught to feel guilty about wronging Chinese that’s not saying much. That’s a moral indictment on them. These would be the same native Vietnamese taught to gloss over a mass campaign of murder against civilians including deliberately incinerating scores of women and children in bunkers (see the VC at Dak SOn, or the NVA at Phu Than for example) to spread terror, along with a whole lot of other nice activity (mines set to go off amidst packed civilian buses anyone? Rocket and mortar rounds dropped amid packed civilian streets and not at any military targets? Another 2 decades of ruthless slaughter and terror to gain power anyone? Oh, and lets wipe out a quarter of our country’s population as in the killing fields of Cambodia! Guilt free y’all! And hell, what’s a few tens of millions among friends as in “the Chairman’s” China? Gee what nice guilt-free “role models” for the West to emulate.

    And the Chinese in SE Asia have oft mocked the locals in their Chinese language media, not only within different countries but in places where the Chinese hold sway such as Singapore, where Malays, Indonesians etc are openly mocked and looked down on by the Chinese.
    As for education, the Chinese are pretty dominant, one of the major complaints against them by the locals. Banking- yep- Chinese got that covered too. In fact they almost shut down south Vietnam when Diem was trying to muscle them around. Media- oh sure, the Chinese are not as visible or dominant, but if the Jews have obtained their dominance via the likes of Howard Stern and Jerry Springer, what does that say about the gentiles?

    Government? No the Chinese are not highly visible, but then again, for most of Western history Jews were not prominent either in government as rulers or high, or even low level officials. Hell, they were for most of history banned from getting such positions. Same with the Chinese who like the Jews, also influence host governments through “hidden” deployment of cash- whether via bribes, or campaign contributions, or strategic loans and gifts.

    Jews more prominent in the West? Sure. They have been linked with Western culture much more than East Asian, and in any event inevitably would influence the West more thru Western adoption of portions of Jewish religion.

    Jews rely on the US for Israeli survival? Sure, but that is a comparative recent phenomenon of less than 80 years- a relatively minor time period compared to almost a thousand years of Jewish history prior. American Jews stay in business now not merely because of their “evil” activity, but because they serve the interests of America and the West in the Middle East. When Jews no longer serve the interests of the West, they will be discarded, just as Jews were discarded in medieval times when they no longer served the interests of ruling elites.

    When Jews were financing the kings and assorted elites in Medieval times, they were tolerated, even welcomed. But when said Jews began to demand payment on their loans and took action against the properties used as collateral, (including church properties) then they had outlived their usefulness. Edward I of England, a tyrant that suppressed Scottish independence paid lip service to the benefit he had gotten from the Jews in his Edit of Expulsion- stating that he and his ancestors, “have received much benefit from the Jewish people in time past . .” but they were discarded all the same. The same pattern will be repeated in America. It is only a matter of time.

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  248. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Orange Realtor isn’t going to address any problems with labor exploitation and the H1B, that would unAmerican.

    It’s not in the news, out of sight out of mind. Vietnam must have fake news too, maybe Linh can show us how the Vietnamese do what the CIA do, plus the real owners over there like we have here. There probably was a George Carlin type Vietnamese guy, but they probably had him killed too.

  249. Malla says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    You might be surprised to know that a large fraction of UK Indians are of untouchable origin and come from the rural northern villages.

    Not true at all. A large part of the Indian population are of mercantile bania ancestry and there are a LOT of Brahmins/kayasthas/Thkurs etc… in Britain.
    Indeed lower caste Indians are complaining about discrimination from upper caste Indians in the UK.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-38663143

    According to the research I’ve seen, their economic and academic performance is similar to that of the White British.

    Not true at all. Bangladeshis and Pakistanis earn far less than White Britons.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/08/uk-minorities-lag-white-counterparts-income-170807080047883.html

    Indians don’t have significant subsaharan African mixture.

    That is true.

    At least in America, Indians are mostly in IT/software/tech. Not verbal fields. The second generation are moving into some of those verbal fields, but I wouldn’t say that Indians skew verbal.

    Indian IT talent is very hyped. Most of them use their verbal cunning clannish skills in office to climb the corporate ladder than do real ground breaking work. I have friends in IT, they tell me as it is.
    An Indian in the USA finally admits the mass faking of resumes by Indians to fool Americans

    It is all cheatin and swindlin with desis.

    And I agree with Duke of Qin. A large chunk of the population in the Indian subcontinent is indeed low IQ. My dad, my uncle both ran businesses. I have worked in many countries. There for I am skeptical of South Asia ever becoming developed in a Western or East Asian sense. Will never happen, not even close.

    Most of the software programmers in India, hardly do high level coding jobs but some kind of support work.

    Indeed the Indian industry itself claims that a whooping 80% engineers in India are unemployable.

    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/80-engineers-unemployable-as-they-lack-key-skills-report/articleshow/58141318.cms

    And this has become a major topic of discussion in India

    Why is India producing unemployable graduates?

    Most of our engineers have no knowledge, interest or skill in engineering

    The second video is in Hindi but check out the topic. One of the panelist is Mohandas Pai, who was in a top position in Infosys, the Indian software giant.

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  250. Malla says:
    @EnrriqueCardova

    Jews rely on the US for Israeli survival? Sure, but that is a comparative recent phenomenon of less than 80 years- a relatively minor time period compared to almost a thousand years of Jewish history prior.

    How old is modern Israel?

    American Jews stay in business now not merely because of their “evil” activity, but because they serve the interests of America and the West in the Middle East. When Jews no longer serve the interests of the West, they will be discarded, just as Jews were discarded in medieval times when they no longer served the interests of ruling elites.

    Again Evil YTs and exploited innocent Jews, all the time. Not true. There may have been times when some European King exploited Jews when it suited him, but most anger towards Jews came from exploited European peasants.

    As far as Christianity hating Jews, this goes both ways. Jews hated Christianity and Christians too.

    but because they serve the interests of America and the West in the Middle East.

    What interests do they serve really? Are they that necessary?
    It seems more like the USA serves Israeli interest.

  251. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    $400K for an apartment? Is that affordable? The rents in Saigon are more insane then I ever remember too. Prices just keep getting higher. People aren’t really working, they’re pushing paper.

    Some people are working and in Singapore the law is pro-landlord. One law out of that body of law has made “rent control” illegal.

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  252. @Malla

    In general Northern Europeans do tend to lie and cheat a lot less than third worlders.

    That’s true. Northern Euros and Japanese are the most honest ethnic groups.

    Eastern Europeans are pretty dishonest though. Comparable to Indian subcontinentals. The same is also true for Chinese. So I’m not sure if this has anything to do with hot weather/cold weather.

    Singapore is an interesting example of a country that’s predominately Chinese (with around 20% of the population being divided between Malays and Indians), but non-corrupt. Taiwan and Hong Kong aren’t exceptionally honest by international standards, but they’re not abysmal either. Mauritius (which is 2/3 Indian and 1/4 black) isn’t abysmally corrupt either. However, none of those countries (other than Singapore) is really comparable to the Northern Euros.

    Statecraft may be different.

    It is different. From my experience, most Americans are fairly honest in their personal dealings. Not always, but usually. However, Americans are comfortable with their government using dishonest/unethical tactics when dealing with foreign nations/governments. I wouldn’t be surprised if other Northern Euros and Japanese think the same way.

  253. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    American oligarchs are the most corrupt. The slaves can’t even name them of course, but name an Asian country where 4 or 5 obvious Government agencies spy on all their slaves?

  254. Not true at all. A large part of the Indian population are of mercantile bania ancestry and there are a LOT of Brahmins/kayasthas/Thkurs etc… in Britain.
    Indeed lower caste Indians are complaining about discrimination from upper caste Indians in the UK

    I was reading that over a third of of the Indian Sikh population in the UK is of untouchable origin. The UK Sikhs are actually comparable to the White British in income, academic attainment, and other measures. Interestingly, according to what I read, the Sikh untouchables are about as successful as the higher-caste Sikhs. Which apparently has provoked some jealousy within their community.

    I have no idea how untouchable Sikhs compare to other types of untouchables, but apparently they’ve fared well in the UK.

    Not true at all. Bangladeshis and Pakistanis earn far less than White Britons.

    Those groups earn less. Indians earn similarly to the White British, but surpass them in the second generation due to better educational credentials.

    Most of them use their verbal cunning clannish skills in office to climb the corporate ladder than do real ground breaking work.

    Indians don’t, on average, have particularly good verbal skills. They’re only good in comparison to Chinese, who are almost unintelligble. However, there are some Indians who are high in verbal ability. They often get into management positions and then hire lots of fellow Indians.

    The reputation Indians have is that they’ll work long hours and let the employer abuse them. Also, as you said, they’re clannish and hire their own. The quality of Indian programmers isn’t particularly good, I agree.

    I wonder how the quality of Chinese programmers compares to Indian programmers.

    Here are the average salaries (by nationality) of H-1bs transitioning to permanent residency. Top 25 nationalities.

    India $100,632
    China $92,363
    South Korea $53,611
    Canada $120,483
    Mexico $77,003
    Philippines $67,333
    United Kingdom $122,302
    Taiwan $92,085
    Pakistan $106,222
    France $119,581
    Nepal $92,129
    Japan $83,117
    Brazil $106,385
    Turkey $96,228
    Russia $108,073
    Venezuela $95,446
    Germany $114,785
    Iran $75,436
    Italy $106,522
    Israel $123,825
    Colombia $92,384
    Australia $131,775
    Ukraine $102,930
    Poland $79,706
    Spain $106,943

    There is a relationship between the complexity of a job assignment and income. So innovative, higher-level programmers tend to make more (on average).

    The European/Anglo programmers earn more than Indians, but the Chinese and Koreans earn less.

    Here’s a link to the origin of foreign-trained physicians in the United States.

    Indians account for 22% of foreign-trained U.S. physicians. Chinese are 3%. Canada is at 4% and Europe is at 11%.

    However, Indian doctors are 4x more likely to be disbarred than British-trained doctors.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/10809221/Doctors-from-India-more-likely-to-be-struck-off.html

    The figures show that over the last five years, around 1 in 1,000 doctors who trained in Britain has been struck off. This compares with around 1 in 250 of those trained in India, and 1 in 350 of those who came here from Pakistan.

    That’d suggest that Indian-trained doctors are half a standard deviation less competent than British-trained doctors. It’d be like a 93 IQ vs 100 IQ (assuming British doctors are set at 100).

    When all countries with at least 1,000 doctors working here were compared, Egypt and Germany have the highest proportion of doctors struck off over the five years, with 1 in 136 medics removed from the register, followed by Poland, with 1 in 149 struck off.

    Egyptian, Polish, and German doctors are apparently even worse. Tough to believe for Germans.

    Here’s another study from the UK on British-trained medical students.

    https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1741-7015-5-8

    Male students and students from ethnic minorities have been reported to underperform in undergraduate medical examinations. We examined the effects of ethnicity and gender on pass rates in UK medical graduates sitting the Membership of the Royal Colleges of Physicians in the United Kingdom [MRCP(UK)] Examination in 2003–4.

    Pass rates for each part of the examination were analysed for differences between graduate groupings based on self-declared ethnicity and gender.

    Candidates volunteered gender and ethnicity using 14 ethnic categories approved by the UK Commission for Racial Equality. Candidates who did not self-declare were subsequently invited to do so by letter. Ethnicity was grouped into eight categories: Afro-Caribbean (Black-African, Black-Caribbean, and Black-Other), Asian sub-continent (Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi and Asian-Other), Far East (Chinese/Chinese British and Malay), Middle Eastern (Arabic and Other Middle Eastern), Mixed, White, Other and Unknown (consisting of candidates who did not declare). Examiners declared gender and ethnicity using the same categories.

    If you click on the link, you’ll see that White British-origin medical students had the highest pass rate. Indian subcontinentals, Far East Asians, Middle Easterners, and Afro-Carribeans did worse.

    However, relative to their numbers, Indian subcons and Asians are very overrepresented in British medical schools. Their pass rates are lower though.

    Pass rates on the British medical examination.

    Ethnic group Part 1 Examination Part 2 Written Examination Part 2 Clinical Examination

    Afro-Caribbean: 38.5% 71.4% 56.5%
    SubContinent (Indian): 38.5% 75.4% 61.8%
    Far East: 34.7% 69.0% 54.2%
    Middle Eastern: 34.0% 70.8% 65.1%
    White: 50.3% 83.1% 75.5%

    If you want to get a US MBA, you have to take an exam called the GMAT.

    Here are GMAT scores by nationality/region. The worldwide mean was 558. Standard deviation is roughly 120 points.

    gmat-profile-citizenship-ty2016-web-release-2%20(1).pdf

    The Chinese took 70,744 GMAT exams in 2016. Their GMAT mean was 581.
    The Indians took 33,123 GMAT exams in 2016. Their GMAT mean was 577.
    The Africans took 5,268 GMAT exams in 2016. Their GMAT mean was 458.
    The Eastern Europeans took 4,704 GMAT exams in 2016. Their GMAT mean was 565.
    The Americans took 83,410 GMAT exams in 2016. Their GMAT mean was 547.
    The Western Europeans took 19,138 GMAT exams in 2016. Their GMAT mean was 566.

  255. Bastian says:
    @EnriiiqueCardovaa

    @EnriiiqueCardovaa “well demonstrated by the mass slaughter of millions of Poles, Jews and others” Obviously, you’re simply a brainwashed moron, and think exactly what your masters taught you to think. Consequently, “your” opinion has no value.

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  256. @JohnnyWalker123

    However, none of those countries (other than Singapore) is really comparable to the Northern Euros.

    Singapore is the only Chinese dominant society that uses English as its lingua franca. Lee Kuan Yew was educated in the UK and was very pro-British in his early years. I think that has a lot to do with why Singapore is such a clean(both figurative and literal) and safe country.

    HK was ruled by the British for 100 years, but the HKers kept Chinese as their lingua franca, they never fully adopted English norms, and remained very much a Chinese society, which is why the triads ran wild there for a while, while the British turned a blind eye. Many of these triads came from China, they were chased out of China by the Chinese Communist party in 1949. Since HK reverted back to Chinese control in 1997, there have been massive crackdowns with mass arrests. The last one occured in 2015 with some 4,300 arrested in HK. In a span of a few months in 2015 the Chinese government arrested 43,000 gang members in Southern China. These days they keep a low profile in HK.

    Taiwan is the same way, except it was never ruled by a western power, but by Japan. Taiwan has a very large black market economy, with the triads pretty much running the underground economy of gambling, drugs, money laundering, trafficking, prostitution etc. They operate under the tacit acceptance of the government, and has mass influence over the government.

    The Yakuzas in Japan also run a similar black market economy and operate under the tacit acceptance of the government.South Korea also has prominent gangs.

    Singapore is the only Asian society that does not have a black economy or gang culture. Lee Kuan Yew dragged them out of the rotten traditional Chinese culture by making them all learn and speak English, and cracked down hard on all the tongs.

    All the illicit activities in the Chinese diaspora are among people who still speak Chinese. The only way for the Chinese to stop corruption or gang activities is when they adopt English as their primary language. The same can be said of all Asian groups.

  257. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “Vietnam’s revival results from the economic reforms of Doi Moi. Once the state got out of the way, commerce blossomed, wealth was generated and abject destitution mostly disappeared.”

    It went from really bad, like losing teeth and not getting enough to eat, to much better. Of course, if you look closely, the state is no where near “out of the way” nor will it ever be.

    By owning land there, Chan is asserting he hasn’t abandoned his roots because it’s a reductive approach to defining identity. He says: “If we hear, for example, that the temple needs to be fixed, we all chip in.” All associations are reduced into that of money or material wealth almost unconciously at first.

  258. @TT

    From news, it seems SG Gov, statutory boards and corporates are now fully stacked with foreign Indians.

    A Indian Lawyer who used to get scolded by judges for twisting liar become its Law & Foreign Minister. A blur Indian eye specialist become Youth Minister. A Indian charged for leaking state secret become deputy PM, Indian woman as state ministers, Indian President Nadan succeeded by another Indian turn Malay Muslim Pres….many high/appeal/chief court judges all Indians, MAS chief Indian, DBS CEO Indian,…its crazy isn’t it? Like US fully under Israelis Jews control. Wtf you people are voting for such shitty gov?

    Say it ain’t so. Indians are parasites like the Jews. Whatever they touch turn to shite. Singapore will be another corrupt shithole like India in no time. Lee Kuan Yew’s son is destroying his own father’s legacy. This is why nepotism is a bad idea, regression to the mean is playing its hand here. What a shame.

  259. @Bastian

    And you are living proof that manure can sprout legs and walk. Now run along and make another flatulent non-contribution somewhere else….

  260. @neutral

    When I was going on R&R from Tan Son Nhut airport in 1969, I had lunch in a local restaurant. I asked the waitress if she was Vietnamese, and she took it as an insult. She was Chinese, Thank You! Out where I had been I had seen very few live Vietnamese, so I could not draw any conclusions from that on nationality. She may have been atypical in her response, but I doubt it.

  261. @Orwellian State

    Taiwan is the same way, except it was never ruled by a western power, but by Japan. Taiwan has a very large black market economy, with the triads pretty much running the underground economy of gambling, drugs, money laundering, trafficking, prostitution etc. They operate under the tacit acceptance of the government, and has mass influence over the government.

    Such a criminal place, in fact that Norway has twice as much crime, and Sweden has three times as much. Unlike you, I deep have roots in that land and while things have gone much worse without the KMT, the idea that it is seriously ridden with anything of a criminal underground as the world usually understands it is as farcical when disturbing the peace with loud noises is considered a daring way to act out criminally.

    Singapore is the only Asian society that does not have a black economy or gang culture. Lee Kuan Yew dragged them out of the rotten traditional Chinese culture by making them all learn and speak English, and cracked down hard on all the tongs.

    When I wrote about Chinese who want to do anything to pretend that they are not, by condemning everything about themselves and begging for acceptance by others, you are a classic example(though unlike Gordon Chang, you aren’t even paid for it). No one respects a running dog: not Liu Xiaobo and not you.

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    , @Malla
  262. Malla says:
    @TT

    I had debunked these myths previously, you knew them. Why did you bring these US/Vietcon propaganda out as facts to spread fake news?

    Sorry I had not come across those points on Unz. Only now since you linked, I know.

    Asia and whole world owed China much for using their blood to quell Vietcon & Soviet expansionary war after US allied flee. Otherwise, whole world incl India are part of SU now. Communism may be good for mankind, but disastrous under imperfect leaders.

    Not likely. Soviet Union saved India from the West and China in the 1971 war.
    Vietnam invaded Cambodia, no doubt. But Cambodia had Pol Pot, who killed 25% of his own population especially the educated intellectuals. That does not mean Vietnam would have conquered all of South East Asia. That sounds far fetched. LKY must have over reacted. Vietnamese might have been battle hardened but they lost a lot of men and material in the war with USA and South Vietnam.
    So to think that Vietnam would invade Myanmar, malaysia, Thailand, hell even Indonesia sounds very far fetched. And imagine how much power such an invasion would give to American hawks to call of an re-invasion of South East Asia. That would be very stupid on Vietnam’s part.
    I agree that China did not take any territory from Vietnam, no doubt about that but Vietnam’s case is different from India’s where India actually entered Chinese territory. And no people like foreigner interfering in it’s affairs. The Chinese action can be used by the Vietnamese elites to rile up the people against China.

    Vietnam is the biggest illegal spratly island [email protected], first and most aggressive in building structures

    OK, I did not know that before. you have a point.

    India still spinning China invading border war propaganda till this day, when India is true aggressor as you had help identified. So instead of benefiting from its neighbour China Obor and massive investment to rise quickly as GDP No.2 and remove widespread poverty, it choose to be US evil soulmate to aggressively challenge China.

    The Indian elites are arrogant and have been bullying their neighbours for some time, in fact immediately after the British left. In China’s case, they were over confident and paid the price, they tried to bite something they could not chew, broke their teeth. To save their honour they spun stupid story for the aggressive thuggish Indian masses, that China back stabbed India. Even without USA in the picture, the Indian elites cannot stand being number 2 or 3 in Asia. They wanted to be number 1, so with China’s rise, they are pissed like little child.
    The USA just had to take advantage of these childish emotions. Simple as that.
    The Pakistani elites are scum too but not so childish. Besides, Pakistan is collapsing as a failed state. OBOR/CPEC is one of it’s last ditch effort to save itself. India can at least survive.

    Those historical interference you mentioned in Africa…if true, were Mao’s era SU communism vs Western fighting. Not any Chinese imperialism expansionary war or to grab land like US & India never stop doing.

    I am not blaming the present PRC of their interference in Africa. PRC of the past was different, it was ideological, today the PRC is more pragmatic. I was just pointing out that the PRC has a history where it interfered with other sovereign powers where it had no business. That is all. And yes, there was no land grab. I agree. Today’s PRC is different. USA is way bigger threat.

    US/Vietcon China threat propaganda that China want to swallow up his communist country, India and everyone.

    Vietnam I do not know but why would China want to swallow India? That would be dumb mistake. The British made that mistake, I hope the Chinese are smarter than that. Indian subcontinent is only problems and more problems. Better to just leave it alone. No wonder the British gave independence with ease, they just had enough and just wanted to go home. Too many problems, too much headache. Castes, Hindu-Muslim clashes, people shitting in the fields, too many ethinic groups hating on each other, corruption, cheating, pollution, ungrateful people etc…. Why would anybody want India, Pakistan or Bangladesh? Too much problems. Not enough resources like Africa worth all the trouble. Africa is a permanent headache too but it has lots of resources.
    Maybe that is why India did not try to absorb Bangladesh like it absorbed Sikkim. Sikkimese were nice Tibetan like people, Bangladeshis were like fellow Indians, more problems and on that most are Muslims.

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  263. Malla says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Eastern Europeans are pretty dishonest though. Comparable to Indian subcontinentals. The same is also true for Chinese. So I’m not sure if this has anything to do with hot weather/cold weather.

    You have a good point there. The behaviour of North Eastern Europeans and non Japanese North East Asians does put a spanner on the cold climate theory. Eastern Europeans are not comparable to Indians or Arabs. Indians and Arabs are sure worse. But Eastern Europeans do not tend to be as honest as their Western European brothers. I have always wondered if the Hanjal line played some part in this difference in between North Western Europeans and North Eastern Europeans.

    But if one goes to Southern Europe, the cold climate theory does seem valid. There is a major difference in general morality and behavior in between Northern Italians and Southern Italians, Northern Spaniards (Galicia for example) and Southern Spaniards, Northern Portuguese and Southern Portuguese.

  264. Malla says:
    @denk

    Yeah I am sure, Boko Haram just like Al-Shadat, ISIS etc… is in bed with CIA/Mossad. No doubt about that. Boko Haram is used to keep Nigeria in line with what the banking elites want. Whenever Nigeria dares to walk out of line, Boko haram magically becomes active. LOL. Just like when President Duerte of the Philippines walks out of line of what the elites want, the Morros in Southern Philippines become active. Very magical relationship in between the warriors of Islam and banking elites.

    the USA via the CIA has been paying the salaries of the South Sudanese Army (SPLA) since 2009.

    Maybe, but the Southern Sudanese were treated like shit by the Northern Sudanese. You cannot deny that. Called Gorillas, raped by Northern Janjaweed bastards, Arab culture forced on the Christians in the South. No wonder they wanted out, CIA or no CIA.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/sudan/1463215/Arab-militia-use-rape-camps-for-ethnic-cleansing-of-Sudan.html

    Arab militia use ‘rape camps’ for ethnic cleansing of Sudan

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  265. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    It’s quite affordable, considering that the average household has a monthly income of around $8000, and typically parents will help their children to buy their first home. The Singaporean government heavily encourages home ownership, so the law is unfavorable to tenants and renting. Home owners make up 90% of the population. I have no complaint about this. Renters tend to have no sense of ownership of their property and will leave it in a poorer condition than people who own their homes.

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  266. TT says:
    @denk

    Like I say, you should pay a visit one day, you’d be overwhelmed left, right and centre !”

    So Spore and India become one united curry nation now. LOL. Its been long time away, need to see how shithole my beloved Spore getting now…so much fond memory.

    “Havent you heard of tyranny of the majority ? Thats the trouble with ‘democracies’, aka fukusi[ndia], the five eyes, jp, sg…… where 70% who’r sheeples/morons call the shot ultimately.”

    Aah… must be Russian & Chicom meddling with the Spore voting. CIA has gotten solid evidences from UK ex-agent echoed by France & Germany that with 50% citizens consist of new migrants given best benefits bribery and 20% civil servants forced to vote by default, 70% is the lowest it can goes. Now at 70% voting result, it means not a single genuine Singaporean voted for ‘em, that’s treason!!! Its outside force meddling in our country…shrieking PMLee…with his team howl in tune…..we must resist…

    “Dont be surprised , an Indian PM aspirant is waiting in the wing !
    Now That will be the day,
    A made in washington/delhi , Indian run , unsinkable aircrat carrier squatting at China’s jugular ! “

    I know this new Indian PM name, its LeeXX junior… after his ID race is changed to Indian bcos he like curry. Didn’t that’s how its SElected President got off with Indian to Malay race change overnight bcos she is a Indian-Chinese Muslim? Im scratching my barrel hard but still can’t figure out. Will you scratch yours and enlighten me?

    Lee shrieking China must obey cooked up fake SCS Hague court ruling… TPP is important for Spore survival…its nonsense to say TPP serve to exclude China, we will use Japan train for Obor…wait, why Xi not inviting me for Obor meeting, didn’t Spore & China have excellent relationship since my father time?

    Why You kept my armoured carriers for Taiwan wargaming against PLA? You building many mega ports in Malaysia? You even built a mega city at my border Johore, a new financial center? What, you want to place multi rocket launchers with 100km range at my border? Ooh..my 20×40 km USS Unsinkable aircr carrier is doomed…let’s built more bomb shelters in every house with smoke detectors…and pray hard China won’t route all Cisco ships to Malaysia, trade Yuan in Johore finance center, Obor link direct from Johore to Jakarta, a new Global FTA excluding Spore, no SQ passage thru SCS & China airspace…you idiot for cracking own biggest rice bowl for next many centuries.

    Now Uncle Scam is pressing Sg to buy their useless F35 & more weapons to join fighting China in SCS for Uncle Scam.

    “You think they’r all stupid, Merkels, Macron, Roh…..?

    Its all about survival ,they dont wann get bumped off. !”

    OMG, you just leak the most sacred Pentagon Top Secret even Snowden didn’t, now everyone know CIA is meddling in every countries government. What we got to do now? Whole world has to sanction US, sent our troops to Mexico border and banned US in Olympics for not using enough asthma steriod!!!???

    See, obedient India Modi get a warmest WH bear hug with all nuclear transfer perks and removal from US terror blacklist for massacring thousands of Moslems Indians.

    For humanitarian, Uncle Scam proclaimed:
    We will keep sanction China for TAM, Regime change to Assad, Iran, Venezuela… for suppressing riots. We don’t allow anyone to build Nuclear WMD, UN must sanction and we will fry NK & Iran. How about India & Pakistan nuke and numerous bloody crack down of protests? No no.. they are our allies, different, they need more tech transfer, aids and investments to solve.

    “Canberra has gone berserk beating the drum on ‘foreign interference’, read ‘yellow peril’ !
    See, there’s kinda like division of labor, to unite the five eyes sheeples/morons against that twin Russkies/chicoms terror !”

    Lucky i gave up OZ citizenship decades ago, else they may poke my eyes mistaken for a old dragon since all look alike if you are Asian. Most true ozzies are very friendly but racism is obvious in poor rednecks when they spotted us driving their unaffordable dream car, and those new poor whitish migrants arriving with supremacy dream, until he realized why all car/estate white salesman ignore him to eagerly serve Asian….making bird chirping sound. New Mercedes E200 for half a Toyota1.6 Spore price… new seafront 2Storeys mansion for a old 3room flats….cheap.. cheap…cheap..now he know he is a impecunious vagabond in new land of rich migrants.

    Ask China sent 30Mil rich people over, Oz will be chicomized. Threaten Oz, if you don’t accept, your gov gonna bring in 30Mil Indians…your choice, Singapore/Toronto or Delhi?

    If China is a chicom then all capitalism nations are super commie. Chinese are exceptional good capitalist in DNA, except their sane socialist gov won’t let capitalist hollow out country like US. Their corruption is unprecedented, until Pres Xi resisted many powerful groups to crack down so hard that some Chinese interestingly told me now all corrupted gov officials are crying their life are ruined by Xi removing their local emperor power, have to start living a decent life.

    “Its not that a govn is ‘careless’ in its immigration policy which lets in a hordes of WMM, its engineered from above, the Zio/Wasp/Indian overlords want a white genocided and yellow genocided world under its thumb,”

    This always puzzle me, why Merkel & EU chiefs are so obsessed and absurdly forcing whole EU to accept millions of moslem refugees in with terrorists knowingly. Yet Europeans are not revolting. Its damage and social cost is absolutely destructive….perverted EU is gone case making Russia look like a saint country now.

    “like I say, the murkkan hierachy is currently like so…

    Wasp./Zio/Indians
    Western Euros/ Jp
    other Euros
    Latins
    Chinks./gooks/others”

    Im gonna migrate to India as WMM counter strike, and pretend to be highest hierarchy brown now with my new tanned. My name is Khan, or Shah, which is better? Seriously i did inquire about taking up Indian citizenship few years ago as i love its encapsulated 5000yrs civilization and Himalayas beauty.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @denk
  267. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    Is a running dog something like a running footman?

  268. denk says:
    @Karl

    Have you ever reflected on what uncle sham does in your name on a lonely night , Karl ??

    WHY DO THEY HATE US ?

    http://www.krysstal.com/democracy_whyusa.html

    [warning]
    This link sometimes take ages to load, but its worthwhile for the uninitiated, the ironly would be lost on Karl tho.

  269. denk says:
    @gT

    Malla blah blah….

    Like I say dude, do you have any original thought besides quoting Malla the great ?

    Oops you do have an ‘analysis’ on the impending ‘yellow peril’ !

    And China’s uncomfortable position would be made increasingly untenable by point 2, its 1.4 billion people. It could end up with Chinese eating Chinese, so to survive more or less comfortably China would have no choice but to invade other countries to steal their resources and to resettle their people. And because of point 1, there would be no problem with this solution at all.

    http://www.unz.com/article/the-russo-chinese-alliance-revisited/#comment-2169410

    I told you Thats’ pure unadulterated B.S., cuz
    China never does Blood for Oil, sorry to dissapoint,

    here’s the other reason that I didnt spell out,

    How do you propose a Chinese expedition force [ROFLMAO] would break thru the first /second island chains, when its ringed on all sides by the ‘Asian Nato’ ?

    Fact is, China would be smothered by an avalanche of ‘international outrage’
    before fukus has a chance to launch its air sea ‘shock and awe’ on the Liaoning.

    Ergo,
    Xi and Co would be mad to even entertain such a move,
    ‘attack a country willy nilly to grab resources and RESETTLE’ [SIC]
    [news flash] fukus is the only one who could get away with that kind of shit with impunity,

    I dont see the Chinese exhibiting any mad cow syndrome, which’s so prevalent in fukus, so you must be the one who’ve gone bonkers.

    hhhhhh

    • Replies: @gT
  270. denk says:
    @Malla

    1971 was a teachable moment.

    Under tremendous pressure from washington to attack India, China stood its ground, even tho Beijing sorely needed murkkan ‘friendship’ after breaking out with USSR.
    China never compromised its ‘no first use of force‘ and ‘no first use of nukes’ principle in order to garner favor from USA.

    India OTOH has never seen a war on China that it doesnt like.
    Since its independence the Indians have been whoring themselves to the Russians or murkkans , often both. [1962 !]

    In 1962 India attacked China with the backing of both the USSA/USSR, no mean feat that !

    IN 1971 India Balkanised Pak with USSR support,

    After the USSR collapse, India crawled back to uncle sham, fastened itself to washington’s bandwagon to encircle China .

    In 1949, Mao proudly proclaimed that the Chinese have stoop up.
    Will the Indians ever see the day they’ll be able to cut off its umbilical cord to its former colonial master ?

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  271. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    No country in the world has a more authoritarian Government with the exception of the USA which puts more people in prison. Many obedient slaves in Singapore are junior authoritarians themselves and want more than anything to be a part of the machine that dispenses “authority”. These children worship a brutal father Government who takes care of them and smotes people who step out of line. Like any tyranny with a Democratic front a big percentage are barely making it, 21% of 5.3 million are poor. Home ownership is a questionable individual choice, and a bad regional choice. The result is Singapore is very American: petty asshole aristocrats, brutal rules and hidden slums all over.

  272. denk says:
    @Malla

    Sri Lanka always helped our enemy against us. Now they get screwed. Karma is a bitch.

    WHY DO THEY HATE US, [Indian edition]

    Exhibit Sri Lanka,

    http://www.lankaweb.com/news/items/2017/05/16/modi-subdues-sirisena-and-ranil/

    • Replies: @Malla
  273. TT says:
    @Malla

    Maybe that is why India did not try to absorb Bangladesh like it absorbed Sikkim. Sikkimese were nice Tibetan like people, Bangladeshis were like fellow Indians, more problems and on that most are Muslims.

    If China try absorb India to become SinoIndo monstrous 2.8Bil population, no one can imagine….its disaster for everyone even if Indian voluntary agree without war.

    India is clever to give Bangladesh independent, imagine feeding 100Mil of super productive people with no jobs, no resources, moving into India already crowded cities….

    Now i read in Globalresearch that Bangladesh already applied its WMM down to India Assam, the same moslem Bengali(Rohingya) in millions. But msm said its India Hindu trying to push Muslims Indians out to Bangladesh by denying them citizenship. Which Is true? Sound like another Rohingya case but bigger scale.

    • Replies: @Malla
  274. Malla says:
    @TT

    Im gonna migrate to India as WMM counter strike, and pretend to be highest hierarchy brown now with my new tanned. My name is Khan, or Shah, which is better? Seriously i did inquire about taking up Indian citizenship few years ago as i love its encapsulated 5000yrs civilization and Himalayas beauty.

    You will give up Aussie citizenship to get Indian citizenship? Really? India is gonna become a slave state to Zio elites. All Indians have to have a biometric card and very soon we will all be cashless. No democracy, government will control everybody. All Indians will be robot slaves for Zio controlled rulers, if you oppose the policies of Zio Govt, the Govt will just shut down your biometric profile. No financial transactions possible anymore. You will have to barter your underwear to buy a bus ticket or a samosa to feed yourself.
    India is being prepared for becoming a slave support state of Greater Israel of the future. Kind of like the role murrika plays today. You might ask, how will India with it’s huge population of low IQs and pussy South Asian physically weak soldiers play the role of murrika? Can she pull it off? Why not choose some White or Yellow nation with good combination of high IQ majority and brave soldiery? Because Greater Israel will be a superpower in her own right. India will just be a support state, cannon fodder source, so to speak, a shithole supersupportpower. Pakistan will disappear according to plan, break into pieces or become part of Greater India, Akhand Bharat. Pakis already discuss this in their TV shows, see it as a threat to their existence and Indian Hindu Fundus are all calling for Akand Bharat or greater India all day in Indian TV shows. So I do not think coming here long term is a good idea. Besides, the whole world will be an India if the Zio elites get with their plan. Tokyo will be like India, London will be like India (getting there fast). India is the future of the world but with no democracy, a U.S. black ghetto/brazillian favela culture and artificial fake GM food. You will find India everywhere.

    Maybe marry a Israeli chick (your kids will be Jewish and Chosen) and live in the states. Let the dumb Jews of Israel fight it out, be the smart Jew and live in America and make smooth aliyah later when the dumb Jews and Arabs have fought each other out. The only problem during aliyah will be dealing with the Orthodox racist rabbis who will not consider you Jewish that easily. But your kids will definitely be of the chosen as their mom is chosen.

    Or become a CEO of a company or president of country and further the globalist plan so that you would be given a position amongst the elites of the future. Do what Bill Gates does, donates his money for globalist causes (vaccines in India, smart cities with no privacy etc..), he is buying his place in the ruling eliteship of the future. Merkel is buying her place too. Try something like that.

    Anyways Khan is a Muslim name, a big no no, muslims of India are all gonna be massacred. Hinduvadi are just waiting for the fall of the White man, fall of the West, then the swords come out and we have mega massacres. Yipeeee. Maybe Christians too. And later Buddhists, Sikhs and Jains to bring back Brahmin Raj. That is the end game of the Hindu right (supported by Zios). Untouchability, Dalit slaves, rich temples/poor people , temple girl prostitutes etc…In other words the golden period what Hinduvadis talk about. The Brits bought modern technology, allowed the lower castes to study, stopped Sati….How Evuul!!!! We want golden period back. Plastic surgeries and Vimanas back.

    Try Tripathi, Dixit, Iyer, Banerjee, Agnihotri, Mishra…..good Brahmin surnames. If you look Mongoloid try some Bengali/Assamese brahmin surname to slip in. Like say Banerjee, Mukherjee, Ganguly etc…

    P.S. I would prefer living in China over India, if I were you. Why?
    Let this high IQ Indian guy explain why.

    • Replies: @SomeGuy
    , @TT
  275. anarchyst says:
    @Malla

    Israel (Mossad) has been holding American politicians and “movers and shakers” hostage for decades, if not generations. You see, all American telephone billing records go through an Israeli company–Amdocs. Israel has one of the most effective spy networks on the planet and has “dirt” on just about anyone who has political influence.
    In addition, there are THOUSANDS of jewish hasbara–high level policy wonks with influence in the State department who have dual Israel-American citizenship, along with over 40 Congressmen and Senators. Our American government has been co-opted by Israeli interests and now does Israel’s bidding. The threat of blackmail keeps our politicians in line. AIPAC has purchased “the best politicians that money can buy”.

    • Replies: @Malla
  276. Malla says:
    @denk

    Under tremendous pressure from washington to attack India, China stood its ground,

    LOL.

    http://www.theworldreporter.com/2011/10/1971-india-pakistan-war-role-of-russia.html

    During the second week of July, 1971, Kissinger arrived in Beijing, where he heard the words by then Chinese Prime Minister Zhou Enlai: “In our opinion, if India continues on its present course in disregard of world opinion, it will continue to go on recklessly. We, however, support the stand of Pakistan. This is known to the world. If they [the Indians] are bent on provoking such a situation, then we cannot sit idly by.’

    On December 10, Nixon instructed Kissinger to ask the Chinese to move some troops toward the Indian frontier. ‘Threaten to move forces or move them, Henry, that’s what they must do now.’ China feared any action on India might attract Soviet aggression. At this, US assured China that any action taken by Soviet Union will be countered by US to protect China.

    Soviet Union had also threatened China that, if they ever opened a front against India on its border, they will receive a tough response from North.

    LOL when Soviets thundered, the Chicoms shivered. China stood it’s ground. LOL. Sound like Indian grade bullshit switheroo like 1962, China backstab India after calling ‘Hindi Chini bhai bhai’ non sense to explain Indian defeat to China to the thuggish Indian masses. You Chinese are learning this art of bullshit from Indian elites.
    hehehehe

    In 1962 India attacked China with the backing of both the USSA/USSR, no mean feat that !

    Yeah, that is shameful history for us. We do not like it, we not like that reality. We prefer official Indian govt version. When reality is tough, take some cocaine snorts.
    hehehehe

    In 1949, Mao proudly proclaimed that the Chinese have stoop up.

    When you have all that Rockefellar/Rothschild money & support behind you, anybody can stand up tall and proclaim whatever you want.

    hehehehehe

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  277. @Orwellian State

    Gang culture is well and alive in Singapore, though heavily supressed.

    Gangster culture went from being solely a Chinese thing to a multi racial thing nowdays.

  278. Malla says:
    @denk

    Since its independence the Indians have been whoring themselves to the Russians or murkkans , often both. [1962 !]

    I guess that is what the famous ‘Non Aligned Movement’ was all about. On paper it looked like third world countries proudly proclaiming to the world that they will not be forced into this American Soviet Dialectic White man Games. In reality it meant ‘we can whore ourselves to any side we want when it suits us and whichever side gives us the most’.
    Pakistan is even worse, whoring herself to Murrika, now China gets the used whore Murrika Jocks used for ages. Even whored herself to Saudi Arabia in between.

    • Replies: @Malla
  279. Malla says:
    @Malla

    And what did China do?
    Take Soviet support to establish themselves, heavy industry and all. Then jumped on American lap and USA and her allies invested money, built factories and used Chinese slave labour. Wow so lovely. No China has to run back to their Ruskie brothers. Lot of jumping about.
    hehehehehe

  280. Tumarkin says:
    @The Seneca Effect

    Would you mind elaborating on where you read of Tumarkin’s inspiration for the Holocaust monument in Tel Aviv? Tumarkin, who is elderly and ailing, is a close relative. I’m curious about where you may have read that (I believe it is true, btw, or at least that Yigal has said so in the past), and whether this and/or related info can be found online. AFAIK, such information would be hard to find outside of Hebrew language periodicals, old catalogs and industry and academic texts, also mostly in Hebrew.

    • Replies: @The Seneca Effect
  281. Malla says:
    @TT

    Yes it is true, Bangladeshis are doing a Rohingya like Islamic expansion on fellow Caucasiod-Australoid hybrid Indians but here it is not racial but religious war. Having more babies and demographically overwhelming Hindus and Christian Indians. In the North Eastern states (Nagaland, Assam, Mizoram, Sikkim, Tripura, Meghalaya etc… ) it is racial as Caucasoid-Austaloid hybrids Muslims vs Christian/Buddhist/Animist Mongoloid Australoid hybrid South East Asian like Indians and Tibetic Mongoloids of Sikkim and Arunachal Pradesh. You must realize it is an expansion with a long history. Syllet in Northern Bangladesh was Mongoloid-Australoid too but have been overwhelmed and absorbed now. Just north of that is Indian state of Assam and the expansion continues across the border. In the Bangladesh Chittagong hill tracts area, traditional home to Mongoloid Australoid South East Asian like Buddhist peoples like the Chakma are too facing Muslim Demographic expansion supported by the Bangladeshi Government. They have been fighting for independence from Dhaka.
    If you want more info check out this Burmese guy Hla Oo’s Blog

    http://hlaoo1980.blogspot.in/2017/04/long-running-buddhist-genocide-in.html

    Long-running Buddhist Genocide In Bangladesh

    http://hlaoo1980.blogspot.in/2013/04/genocide-of-buddhists-in-bangladesh.html

    Islamic Genocide of Buddhists In Bangladesh – Part 1

    http://hlaoo1980.blogspot.in/2013/05/buddhist-exodus-from-bangladeshs.html

    Buddhist Exodus From Bangladesh’s Chittagong Hills

    Looks like the Bangladeshis are either evicting the Mongoloid Buddhists across Myanmar and then following them to Myanmar itself to continue expansion. Or they are just absorbing them by forced conversion and intermarriage. You must realise that bengal is one of the most fertile regions in the world and hence traditionally has one of the highest population density. Traditionally in the agricultural age, Bengal was the most richest region of Indian subcontinent because of rich fertile lands. Most are Muslims living in Bangladesh and 1/3rd of the population live in Indian state of West Bengal who are mostly Hindus.

    His website is a wealth of knowledge about what is really happening in Myanmar and that region of India/Bangladesh

    http://hlaoo1980.blogspot.in/2012/07/riots-between-bengali-muslim-illegals.html

    Riots between Bengali-Muslim Illegals & Natives in Assam (Indian state of Assam)

    http://hlaoo1980.blogspot.in/2013/01/george-soros-puppet-master-in-burma.html

    George Soros “The Puppet Master” in Burma Again?

    http://hlaoo1980.blogspot.in/2012/07/armed-bengali-intrusion-from-bangladesh.html

    Armed-Bengali Intrusion from Bangladesh

    http://hlaoo1980.blogspot.in/2012/06/rioting-bengali-muslims-killing.html

    Rioting Bengali Muslims Killing Buddhists in Maungdaw

    http://hlaoo1980.blogspot.in/2013/04/bengali-muslims-butchered-burmese.html

    Bengali-Muslims Butchered Burmese-Buddhists in Medan!

    Now on the other hand, racially similar Indians too are now scared of Bangladeshi overflow in to India. Bangladesh has lower per capita income than India and cross the border to India. The Earlier Congress government and the Communists in Bengal protected them, they were a vote bank just like how black Americans are vote banks for democrats.

    The Big Fight: How to prevent illegal immigration?

    Checking Bangladesh infiltration holds challenges for Assam government

    This is a video in Hindi

    Illegal Bangladeshi Immigration into Assam, India: a pre-planned tactic for greater Bangladesh

    Effect of Illegal Bangladeshi’s Migrants on Indian People – Economy & Sovernity of the Country

    You would think a shithole like India would not face illegal immigration. But we face Bangladeshi migration.

    But now that the Right winged Hindu fundamentalists are in power, they are building a Wall. Yup a wall, like a USA Mexico Wall. trump faces controversies in America for his Wall, in India all Indians even some lefties support the Wall. INDIANS want to kick all illegal Bangladeshis out, 99% of them. It is a big political topic and unlike the USA, nearly all Indians want illegal immigrants kicked out. Trump would have had it easier in India.

    Justifying the Great Wall of India

    I WOULD DARE ANY WESTERN LEFTY CRACKPOT COME TO INDIA and PROTEST AGAINST THE WALL. The poor masses of India will beat up these lefties pussies and leave them to rot in gutters with glee.

    • Replies: @TT
  282. TT says:
    @Malla

    An Indian in the USA finally admits the mass faking of resumes by Indians to fool Americans

    So many Indians got caught even in Singapore with fake resumes. India has many professional faked resumes companies providing fake Uni or Dip certificates, even contacts for potential employers to call up. They will then pull out the file and replied accordingly as University or ex-employers. Some companies suspected over their new staff poor ability not matching resume, went over India to find out its only a one man shop. Well, they just get fired if found out, no big deal, try next one.

    Most of the software programmers in India, hardly do high level coding jobs but some kind of support work.

    Even in US, some aren’t even a qualified programmer. Once i was in same plane with a young Indian lady to San hose. She is sent by Infosys as programmer. Fresh from high school, with only 1month programming course, nothing else. I can’t imagine how she gonna screw up project. But she will only get paid $1200, which barely enough to pay for her $800 rent and food.

    Most of our engineers have no knowledge, interest or skill in engineering

    The education quality in India is quite backward 20yrs ago, there I saw their text books were filled with obvious errors, so students are learning wrong things. Not sure now.

    Pay is low even for good engineer in India. I had one client, his engineer always could get his IC design one time passed to my amusement. And the design sold in millions pcs to big PC mfg. His salary is only miserably $1K hardly motivate him, in US that will be 10x at least.

    Its good to hear India could discuss such problem openly now. Then there is hope that some qualified one could one day return to revamp the educational system.

    • Replies: @Malla
  283. @Malla

    most anger towards Jews came from exploited European peasants.

    Only in part. The historical record actually shows that those leading the charge against the Jews were often host society elites, or aspirants no longer in lowly peasant condition. Hence in the case of England, the people most vociferous, and demanding harsh action against the Jews were society elites both in the noble houses and among the churches. It was from these people that the Jews made most of their profits, or gained most of their concessions and favors. These were the people most in debt to the Jews and these were the people that stood to gain the most if their debts to the Jews were cancelled, and/or Jewish property seized. Keep in mind that some church leaders and properties were in debt to Jews as well. Elites or aspiring/rising tpes had every incentive to Jew-bash, and stood to gain the most.

    This pattern is not unique to the Jews. The Chinese have encountered the same pattern. Often the people chomping at the bit most (among others) for harsh action were/are elites or aspiring elites in various sectors (business, universities, banking etc) who find their prospects blocked by Chinese dominance in higher education, commerce, banks etc etc. Chinese control of transport vehicles, rice and other processing mills, etc also put a damper on local business aspirants who faced ruthless competition from the well organized Chinese, who could also operate secretively across entire regions using networks of “fraternal” societies. They stand to gain the most from harsh action against the Chinese. Thomas Sowell has a bit of documentation on this in his various books.

    • Replies: @Malla
  284. Malla says:
    @anarchyst

    Yup, true, I am aware of it.

    Check out this joke:
    What will happen if the USA and Israel go to war with each other?

    Ans…The U.S. Congress will itself support Israel.

    LOL

    You see, all American telephone billing records go through an Israeli company–Amdocs.

    Yeah I know…as if USA does not have expertise and technology to do it themselves.

    Rebekah Roth exposes Israeli involvement in Sept 11 attacks

    Israeli companies are responsible for a lot of security in American airports and even Amdocs is mentioned in the video. Because it seems a first world country like the USA cannot do it themselves. Ya rite.

    BTW the Indian government has given the contract of collecting biometric information of India’s billion plus people to a French company run by Ex-CIA called Saffran. The same company is running the biometric Orwellian project in Pakistan collecting biometric data of Pakistanis, the enemies of Indians!!! What a World!!!!

  285. TT says:
    @Malla

    Thks for the rich info. I did heard about some Buddhists ethnic cleansing in Bangladesh but msm have been silent on it.

    India Bengali(Rohingya) case is also not prominently told in msm. May be its not useful for US now, unlike Myanmar is used to sabotage China Obor. That’s why India has been supportive to Myanmar, since facing similar problem. Also India has investment in Rakkhaine seaport.

    Once settled in big number, Muslim Bengalis will ask for Independent state which no country will allow, which means separatist war like Myanmar Rohingya case. Even Myanmar own local Muslim is afraid of these illegal migrants brothers, as they have created unwanted tension that jeopardize Muslims long time good relationship with Myanmar Buddhists that allow them to dominate many businesses.

    • Replies: @Malla
  286. Malla says:
    @TT

    May be its not useful for US now, unlike Myanmar is used to sabotage China Obor.

    Bingo. Exactly. that is why the Rohingyas are suddenly the big favourites of the West.
    BTW elite Bengalis are a high IQ group and two of them won Noble prizes and have been intellectual elites of India. Most of them more Caucasoid looking upper castes. Like Amartya Sen and Rabindra Nath Tagore

  287. SomeGuy says:
    @Malla

    >All Indians have to have a biometric card and very soon we will all be cashless. No democracy, government will control everybody. All Indians will be robot slaves for Zio controlled rulers, if you oppose the policies of Zio Govt, the Govt will just shut down your biometric profile. No financial transactions possible anymore.

    Fortunately the vast majority of Indians are too impoverished and low IQ for a large scale implementation of anything technologically advanced.

    They can’t even get toilets and a working sewage system for most people ffs…

    While China has shown that mobile payments that even street sellers can easily accept are implementable, I doubt India will ever get to a point where anywhere near the majority can even afford mobile phones.

    • Replies: @Malla
  288. TT says:
    @Malla

    You will give up Aussie citizenship to get Indian citizenship? Really? India is gonna become a slave state to Zio elites..

    Already given up decades ago.

    If thing going so bad in India, then i might have to move to Taiwan first, from there sneak into China after they unified. Its almost impossible to get citizenship in China, safe from India WMM.

    Maybe marry a Israeli chick (your kids will be Jewish and Chosen) and live in the states.

    Which nice jew chicks will marry to old bloke…. and old jews are fat ugly. Then got to circumcise. No no..never live in states, it will at best collapse under debt and civil war bcom shithole, or fried by nuke.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @denk
  289. Malla says:
    @TT

    Which nice jew chicks will marry to old bloke

    Jewesses love $$$$ and Yicchus (Status). Got some?

    Then got to circumcise.

    Yeah, a Rabbi will suck your dick blood.

    never live in states, it will at best collapse under debt and civil war bcom shithole, or fried by nuke.

    Sad but true.

  290. Malla says:
    @SomeGuy

    Fortunately the vast majority of Indians are too impoverished and low IQ for a large scale implementation of anything technologically advanced.

    Unfortunately it is getting implemented. The masses may be low IQ but the elites are high IQ and the Zio elites want it done. That is why they got Modi in power in the first place. The illiterate masses are no w been told to be proud of their thumbprints. (since the illeterate poor could not sign they would use thumbprints on documents, anghuta-chaap was a derogatory term for such people.). Now they are told to be proud of being anguta-chaaps. Thats is the PR spin the Government is spewing.

    They can’t even get toilets and a working sewage system for most people

    What is surprising is that there are more mobile phones in India than toilets!!! Millions of the poor will sell their kidneys to get a cheap Chinese smartphone but will shit in the open. This phenomenon makes Mr. Rothschild very happy. Each smartphone bought and he does a ‘mehehehe’ evil laugh touching his fingers together.

  291. Malla says:
    @EnrriqueCardova

    You make good points and you are right. However Jewish exploitation of the poor cannot be ignored.

    Keep in mind that some church leaders and properties were in debt to Jews as well.

    LOL, they are themselves responsible for this. The Catholic church banned usury for Christians so Jews obviously cornered this business. This has got to be one of the dumbest laws even put into place. Instead they should have banned usury by everyone in the Christian realm, Jewish or Christian. By allowing only jews into this business, they are giving a lot of financial power into the hands of Jews. Why would they do this? A lot of things in history makes no sense but whenever you see such weird behaviour in history, one should dig deeper. There is ALWAYS something behind the scenes, that has been my experience anyways.

    Another factor which probably created a lot of anger against jews is that they had a reputation of cheating and swindling. Now I am not saying that Europeans were perfect human beings but Jews definitely cheated swindled more to get such a reputation.

    Wherever jews lived in their diaspora, there were similar perspectives about them in the traditions of surrounding peoples including even the Middle East:

    * “A real Jew will never pause to eat till he has cheated you. (Serbian)
    * “The Jew cheats even when praying.” (Czech)
    * “A real Jew will get gold out of straw.” (Spanish)
    * “So many Jews, so many thieves.” (German)
    * “A bankrupt Jew searches his own accounts.” (Greek)
    * “Bargain like a Jew but pay like a Christian.” (Polish)
    * “A Jewish miser will reject nothing more than having to part with his
    foreskin.” (Russian)
    * “A Jewish oath, a clear night, and women’s tears are not worth a
    mite. (Venetian)
    * “A Jew, if he cheats a Moslem, is happy that day.” (Moroccan)
    * “Mammon [money] is the God of the Jews.” (Hungarian)

    [MORE]

    Compare with what did the Jewish community think, and celebrate, about itself in its own traditions in?

    * “A Jew at a fair is like a fish in water.” (Yiddish)
    * “The Jew loves commerce.” (Yiddish)
    * “A Jew and a wolf are never idle.” (Yiddish)
    * “The Jew likes to poke his nose everywhere.” (Yiddish)
    * “Better in the hands of a Gentile than the mouth of a Jew.”
    (Yiddish)
    * “When the Pole thinks, he seizes his moustache, when the Russian
    thinks, he takes hold of his forelocks, and when the Jew thinks, he
    holds his hands behind.” (Yiddish)

    A lot of similarity.
    The following are more examples of traditional Jewish self-identity from a collection of Yiddish folk sayings, further confirming certain troubling aspects of collective Jewish identity:

    * “One need never suspect a Jew — he surely is a thief.” [p. 139]
    * “It’s good to do business with a thief.” [p. 233]
    * “If you steal — you’ll have.” [p. 233]
    * “What is smaller than a mouse may be carried from a house.”
    [p. 233]
    * “Petty thieves are hanged, major thieves are pardoned.” [p. 233]
    * “A thief gives handsome presents.” [p. 230]
    * “Before a thief goes stealing, he also prays to God.” [p. 231]
    * “Better with a hometown thief than a strange rabbi.” [p. 231]
    * “Thieve and rob if you must but be honorable.” [p. 232]
    * “God protect us from Gentile hands and Jewish tongues.” [p. 196]
    * “Live among Jews, do business among the Goyim.” [p. 143]
    * “If you steal enough eggs, you can also become rich.” [p. 249]
    * “A fool gives and a clever person takes.” [p. 106]
    * “Always take — if you give me, I’ll go away, if not, I’ll stay.”
    [p. 106]
    * “Always take!” [p. 106]
    * “The goy is treyf [forbidden] but his money is kosher
    [acceptable].” [p. 126]
    * “Offer a Jew a ride and he throws you out of your own wagon.”
    [p. 45]
    * “A sense of justice we want others to have.” [p. 127]
    * “Money rules the world.” [p. 179]
    * “Money is the best soap — it removes the greatest stain. (p. 179)
    * “Gold shines out of the mud.” [p. 179]
    * “Gold has a dirty origin but is nevertheless treated with honor.
    [p. 180]
    * “The world stands on three things: on money, on money, and
    on money.” [p. 180]
    All from The Miracle of lntervale Avenue: The Story of a Jewish Congregation in the South Bronx. by Shirley Kumove 1985

    Jewish psychoanalyst Theodore Reik, in Jewish Wit Pg 62 (his volume about the subliminal psychological meanings of Jewish humor) notes:

    “All kinds of deception and cunning, of fraud and trickery, devised and committed by Jews, either to get money or to avoid paying money, are exposed and candidly revealed by Jewish jokes.”

    There is even an entire tradition of Yiddish folksongs like this Ruth Rubin – A Treasury of Jewish Folksong — Song 8:

    “Stealing has made its home in my heart,
    It doesn’t let me alone for a moment.
    It tells me that it was made just for me,
    That it can’t live without me for a moment.”

    Jews using booze to exploits poor peasants

    Also According to Hillel Levine
    Jewish merchants were eventually afforded a monopoly on alcohol distribution throughout most of Poland, including the Ukraine. This meant that the person who regularly demanded tax payments from such peasant “slaves,” the person who managed the land and made decisions upon which the impoverished peasants were exploited, the person who dragged the peasant’s child away, the man who drove the peasant into deeper debt, and the man who sold the peasants booze to drink away their misery, all had a Jewish face.

    Anthropologist Frances Pine notes traditional peasant perceptions of local lawyers and innkeepers (code words for Jews, especially the latter) in the Polish mountain area known as the Podhale:

    “Lawyers and innkeepers were portrayed as encouraging village men to drink and then, when they were unable to pay their debts, taking their lands as forfeit. Many of these stories probably contain substantial truths; for instance, land records from the 19th until the mid-20th century show frequent mortgaging of lands and transfers of land title to pay off debt to non-villagers who are listed as innkeepers and advocates.”

    In the mid-eighteenth century, in rural areas of parts of Eastern Europe, up to 85% of the Jewish population “was involved in some aspect of manufacturing, wholesaling, or retailing of beer, mead, wine, and grain-based intoxicants, like vodka.”

    In the Russian province of Zhitomir, 73.7% of the Jews living there made their living by leasing distilleries and selling alcohol at taverns. Even in the Polish town of Oswiecim Jakob Haberfeld, a Jewish “liquor magnate” owned (up to the World War II era) the most beautiful building in the area — a 40-room mansion. By the late nineteenth century perhaps the largest brewery in Europe, Schultheiss-Patzenhofer, “was a ‘Jewish firm’. In the Ukraine, by 1872, after the feudal system had passed into history, wealthy Jews owned about 90% of Ukraine’s distilleries.

    So we see exploiting the alcoholism of peasants to loot them dry by jews.

    Even many jews themselves wrote about the jewish exploitation of goyim.

    Hayim Zhitlowsky was from the Jewish village of Uschah in what later became part of the Soviet Union. He was, as one Jewish historian puts it, “the outstanding thinker of the Jewish cultural renaissance in the Yiddish language in the twentieth century.” He was no peasant anti-Semite; he was a lover of his own Jewish people, and influential in preserving their culture. But Zhitlowsky was deeply troubled by the omnipresent Jewish exploitation of their surrounding non-Jewish peasant neighbors. In 1883 he wrote:

    “[The Jewish businessman] Samuel Solomovich Poliakov built railroads in Russia. Those railroads were, according to Nekrasov’s famous poem, built on the skeletons of the Russian peasantry. My uncle Michael in the [Jewish town of] Uschach distilled vodka for the Russian people and made a fortune on the liquor tax. My cousin sold vodka to the peasants. The whole town hired them to cut down Russian woods which he bought from the greatest exploiter of the Russian peasants, the Russian landowner…. Wherever I turned my eyes to ordinary, day-to-day Jewish life, I saw only one thing, that which anti-Semites were agitating about; the injurious effect of Jewish merchantry on Russian peasantry.”

    Other Jews, especially among socialists, were moved by the Eastern European peasants’ plight at the hands of Jewish communities. “We were convinced,” wrote one, “that all the Jews were swindlers.” Another, Pavel Akselrod, said that “however great the poverty and deprivation … of the Jewish masses … the fact remains that, taken overall, some half of them function as a non-productive element, sitting astride the neck of the lower classes in Russia.”

    Ber Borochov, a Jew, a socialist, and a Zionist, explained Jewish exploitation of non-Jews this way: “The vast majority of non-Jews gain their livelihood from nature … whereas the majority of Jews earn their living directly from other men. In Russia and Galicia 70-80% of non-Jews earn their livelihood from nature; a similar percentage of the Jews earn theirs from men.”

    As far as cheating commoners, Malcolm X the great black leader actually did speak about Jewish control over the black communities in those days.

    Malcolm X speaks about the economic exploitation and domination of blacks by Jews. Jews wearing Nazi uniforms and riling up White against blacks. I kid you not!!!!!! About how Jews are intolerant of criticism of themselves but love it when blacks criticize Whitey.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @anonymous
  292. Malla says:
    @denk

    Well, who told those blackie Sinhalese to ass lick Pakistan, when they are are like a dropping in the ocean of mighty India near by. You know how haughty and vindicative the Indian elites are. They talk about yoga, meditation and world peace and all that nonsense to fool stupid childish Whitey leftists (about whom they joke about amongst themselves) but they are very very vindicative. Sri Lanka will face the vindicative revenge of our sneaky elites/deep state for ass licking Pakistan, for decades to come now. Cannot be helped.

  293. The Viets are running circles around some commenters’ view of them. The Vietnamese economy is booming, because they play off ALL the major powers and play nice to ALL middle-powers and stay away from global bar-brawls.

    China is VN’s biggest trade-partner. Many MNCs only came to Vietnam because they got 2 flies with one strike – the Chinese market and SEA market. The Chinese are feeding their own rival in the Spratleys.

    VN sells produce & other goods to Iran in exchange for oil, while using the profits to buy weapons from the Israelis. Weapons aimed at China.

    Indians, Europeans, Americans, Japanese, Korean and foremost Russians are selling weapons to Vietnam. Unlike Taiwan China can’t say anything. Russians declined the sale of Iskanders to VN, so Isrealis are jumping in with LORA TBMs.

    Arab oil-sheiks are also investing heavily many sectors, while in case of the UAE a whole regiment of VPA soldiers are “private security”.

    Japan/South-Korea distrust China and gave/is giving the much-needed low-interest loans for infrastructure-projects. This makes VN more and more interesting for foreign investors.

    Meanwhile the Vietnamese labour-market is eased by sending 80k guest-workers overseas every year. Here in Germany over 25 000 Viets are expected in the timeframe 2015-22. Average Hans is pissed off the Arabs and Africans migrants, but praise the Viets, who control the Crystal-Meth/Weed market and using Arabs/Africans as small time street-pushers.

    In addition the numbers of Viet Kieus jumped from 1 million in 1990 to 4 million in 2017. Meaning 14 billion USD remittance last year. This fuels the growth of light-industries and stabilizes the real-estate sector. This attracts lots of investors.

    Europeans talk about Nigerian asylum-seekers and Afghan refugees, while ignoring the 15k of illegal Viets, who arrive every year in addition to the legal ones.

    The children of Viet Kieu and UMC Viets are climbing the ladders in their new homelands, but due the wide spread do not draw unwanted attention. In many business-consultancies Vietnamese experts are pushing their clients to invest in VN.

    Now keep in mind the Vietnamese are still quite young and are expected to grow to 115 million in 2050 from 95 million in 2017. Combine that with 5-7% GDP-growth per year with GDP per capita 2300 USD in 2017 vs 1800 USD for India.

    Vietnam might end up being “Switzerland on steroids with a navy” by the mid of this century.

    TL-DR

    Vietnam is like that inconspicuous VW Golf. Just keep in mind that a VW Golf comes in many flavors from 75hp to 400hp. But even if you are in Porsche shaking off that Golf R400 won’t be easy.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @SomeGuy
    , @TT
  294. denk says:
    @Malla

    No wonder they wanted out, CIA or no CIA.

    Nope

    Dont forget how uncle sham makes a living, a professional arsonist !
    CIA scoured the globe to look for sparks, turns it into a towering inferno and hey presto, uncle appears at the crime scene in firefighter garb !

    pre CIA vs post CIA…..

    Every R2ped victims turns into failed states without fail/,,,,
    Kosovo
    Iraq
    libya
    Syria [work in progess]
    Myanmar [turning up the heat now]

    Sudan…
    how it all started,

    Indeed, the Darfur crisis is following a pattern which is so well-worn now that it has almost become routine. Saturation reporting from a crisis region; emergency calls for help broadcast on the electronic media (such as the one recently on the BBC Radio 4 flagship ‘Today’ programme); televised pictures of refugees; lurid stories of “mass rapes”, which are surely designed to titillate as much to provoke outrage; reproachful evocations of the Rwandan genocide; demands that something must be done (”How can we stand idly by?”, etc.); editorials in the Daily [1]

    Telegraph calling for a return to the days of Rudyard Kipling’s benevolent imperialism[6]; and, finally, the announcement that plans are indeed being drawn up for an intervention.

    ………
    Intervention will allow Western forces to control an oil rich region, and perhaps to expel the present holders of concessions. The fact that the biggest of these is China, and that America’s other foreign adventures also seem to have as their goal the control of energy supplies to that strategic rival, only adds further piquancy to what is, otherwise, an all too banal case of modern imperialistic meddling. ‘

    http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/27e/764.html

    So how did that works out ?

    ‘If one asks the question “who benefits from the South Sudanese civil war?” the answer is clear. The USA is presently the ONLY beneficiary of the ongoing horrors in South Sudan for this latest round of conflict has once again shut down the Chinese run oil fields in the country.’

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2014/01/23/the-usa-v-china-in-south-sudan/

    ‘rapes camps in Kosovo’, ‘viagra fed soldiers in Libya’, ‘genocide, mass rapes in Sudan’, ‘genocide, mass rapes in Myanmar’…

    fool me once,,,,,,,

    [1] Telegraph, the Mail are kinda like British edition of faux news,

    • Replies: @Malla
  295. denk says:
    @Malla

    It seems the Henry Kissinger and the Chinese leadership only saw nightmares involving middle fingers for months afterwords. Middle finger given to them by an Indian woman!

    You mean that emperor dowager who….

    flattened the Sikh golden temple , leading to the Sikh genocide in 1984,

    WMM yellow Bhutan and ‘absorped’ yellow Sikkim outright, [1]

    would’ve Sikkimised Nepal if not for some internal squabble ,

    sponsoring the LTTE in Sri Lanka,

    wow,
    The Indian edition of dowager Clinton ?

    No wonder they keep saying Indians./murkkans ‘shared many common values’,
    a mirror image of each other. !

    hhhhh

    [1]
    ‘absorpt’ into…
    thats how its referred to in MSM, this western democrazies are so cute
    hhhhhh

    • Replies: @Malla
  296. denk says:
    @TT

    Im gonna migrate to India as WMM counter strike

    Dont forget to visit the NE,
    Ever wonder how the seven sisters got WMM into mother India ?

    The Nagas, Assamese, Manipuris……
    They dont look Indian at all !
    Why do the heartlanders call them chinki terrorists ?

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Malla
    , @TT
    , @Malla
  297. denk says:
    @Malla

    Then US President Richard Nixon According to the State Department historian, ‘When the fighting developed, the Nixon administration tilted toward Pakistan. The tilt involved the dispatch of the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise to the Bay of Bengal to try to intimidate the Indian government. It also involved encouraging China to make military moves to achieve the same end, and an assurance to China that if China menaced India and the Soviet Union moved against China in support of India, the United States would protect China from the Soviet Union.

    China chose not to menace India, and the crisis on the subcontinent ended without a confrontation between the United States and the Soviet Union.’
    ”””””””
    On November 10, Nixon instructed Kissinger to ask the Chinese to move some troops toward the Indian frontier. ‘Threaten to move forces or move them, Henry, that’s what they must do now.’

    This was conveyed to Huang Hua, China’s envoy to the United Nations. Kissinger told Huang the US would be prepared for a military confrontation with the Soviet Union if the Soviet Union attacked China.

    On December 12, the White House received an urgent message. The Chinese wanted to meet in New York. General Alexander Haig, then Kissinger’s deputy, rushed to the venue, but was disappointed. Huang just wanted to convey his government’s stand in the UN, no words of an attack in Sikkim or in the then North East Frontier Agency (now, the northeastern states).’

    China chose not to menace India ..inspite of murkkan pledge to cover its back !

    Its not about the Russians, its China’s ‘no first strike‘ principle at work,

    http://www.rediff.com/news/special/claude/20061226.htm

    • Replies: @Malla
  298. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Another German reader

    lolz. Another moron who celebrates arms dealers and their paying customers. Keeping up with the Joneses means militarism and militarism means worshipping Satan. The fear of socio-economic or cultural inferiority always makes the devil worshippers stockpile large numbers of weapons because they believe large numbers of people will probably need to be shot for defense.

    Soon the Vietnamese will open their own factories. Eventually they will believe in the wonderfulness of war and killing again. New movies will replace the old ones. These will show how Vietnamese soldiers kill with love in their hearts.

  299. Central Canada has a large city called Toronto. The population of Toronto is nearly 3 million and the city is extremely ethnically diverse. About 23% of the Toronto School District’s students are of Indian subcontinental origin. About 1/10th of the Indian students (2%) are of Indo-Guyanese origin.

    The Indo-Guyanese are the descendants of landless agricultural laborers brought to work on plantations in the Caribbean. So they’re likely representative of India’s genetic potential. Many of these Indo-Guyanese have migrated north to Canada and American.

    According to the statistics of the Toronto School Board, Indo-Guyanese students have test scores roughly comparable to the average of the school district.

    See this link below.

    http://www.tdsb.on.ca/Portals/0/AboutUs/Research/PortraitsSouthAsian.pdf

    South Asians, East&Southeast Asians, and Whites are combined about 75% of the students in the Toronto School District. 12% are black, 5% are Middle Eastern, and 2% are Latin. 7% are mixed.

  300. Truth says:
    @denk

    Wow four Hijra. Obvious ones!

    But someone will tell me I’m seeing things…

  301. SomeGuy says:
    @Another German reader

    Viets are 3rd world trash as evident by their shitty country where the elderly have to hustle 24/7 because their children can’t take care of them and even 90 year old lottery ticket seller grandma gets scammed / robbed. Is that even comprehensible to a western person? See vid:

    Easterners from high trust societies with strong legal systems get fucked over in these places just like westerners.

    If a western company invests in a 3rd world country / completes a large scale infrastructure project chances are they’ll not be paid because the money has already been embezzled (see the cases of Manila airport or the Bangkok airport highway project where large German companies got scammed for many millions).

    >The children of Viet Kieu and UMC Viets are climbing the ladders in their new homelands

    Those of largely Chinese descent yes, those of indigenous shifty monkey descent largely remain poor for life or even end up in prison like viet gangbangers in California.

  302. Malla says:
    @denk

    China chose not to menace India ..inspite of murkkan pledge to cover its back !

    Its not about the Russians, its China’s ‘no first strike‘ principle at work,

    Chose LOL. USA was far away. Soviet was nearby with shared border, so choice was easy as China was not sure how much Murrica could help them. LOL

    Chinese Prime Minister Zhou Enlai: “In our opinion, if India continues on its present course in disregard of world opinion, it will continue to go on recklessly. We, however, support the stand of Pakistan. This is known to the world. If they [the Indians] are bent on provoking such a situation, then we cannot sit idly by.’

    Cannot sit idly by!!! Had to sit idly by because when Soviets thunder, Chicoms (and murricans/Brits) shivered.

    its China’s ‘no first strike‘ principle at work

    That principle vanished when punitive action taken against Vietnam.

    hehehehe

    • Replies: @denk
    , @TT
  303. Malla says:
    @denk

    Yeah Indira Gandhi acted Hillary in many ways. Attacked the Golden Temple of Sikhs (for Muslims equal to attack on Mecca), occupied the independent kingdom of Sikkim, had the emergency when democracy was suspended. Ya she had her bad side, I never say she was angel. She was horrible person.

    But lets us see what kind of ally China (and their murrikkan soulmates) were supporting in Pakistan.

    A regime that did this?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Bangladesh_genocide

    The genocide in Bangladesh began on 26 March 1971 with the launch of Operation Searchlight,[5] as West Pakistan began a military crackdown on the Eastern wing of the nation to suppress Bengali calls for self-determination rights.[6] During the nine-month-long Bangladesh war for independence, members of the Pakistani military and supporting Islamist militias from Jamaat-e-Islami[7] killed up to 3,000,000[4][8] people and raped between 200,000 and 400,000 Bangladeshi women,[8][9] according to Bangladeshi and Indian sources,[10] in a systematic campaign of genocidal rape.[11][12] Independent researchers estimate the number of people killed as being between 300,000 and 500,000,[1] and describe the 3 million number as excessively inflated.[13] The actions against women were supported by Muslim religious leaders, who declared that Bengali women were gonimoter maal (Bengali for “public property”).[14] As a result of the conflict, a further eight to ten million people, mostly Hindus,[15] fled the country at the time to seek refuge in neighbouring India. It is estimated that up to 30 million civilians became internally displaced.[8] During the war there was also ethnic violence between Bengalis and Urdu-speaking Biharis.[16] Biharis faced reprisals from Bengali mobs and militias[17] and from 1,000[18] to 150,000[19][20] were killed. Other sources claim it was up to 500,000.[21][22]

    Genocide of East Pakistanis/Bangladeshis by West Pakistani soldiers (China and Murrika’s close buddies)

    So the Pak generals genocided hundreds of thousands of people and China the benevolent Middle Kingdom of peaceful rise and harmony was smiling by, showing their angry fists at India, shivering at Soviet thunder, wrote love poems to the Pak generals along with Murrican soul buddies before an Indian bitch showed them middle finger.

    hehehehe

    • Replies: @denk
  304. Malla says:
    @denk

    Well I agree that many of our North East brothers and sisters face racism from mainlanders (mostly low IQ thug trash) and some have even been killed. But many from the NE have risen to high positions in India.
    Like Kiren Rijiju, who is now our Union Minister of State for Home Affairs of India.

    Besides, many mainlanders in India also have mongoloid genes. I think even Punjabis have 14% mongoloid genes in ancestry.

    • Replies: @denk
  305. Malla says:
    @denk

    I am not denying the US Govt had other motives (though many Americans and European genuinely wanted to help) than helping the dinka, maybe oil. But Sudan has a long history of slavery and brutality of southern non Muslim peoples. The US Govt motives were mostly something else, no doubt about that.

  306. Malla says:
    @TT

    The education quality in India is quite backward

    Video in Hindi. Patna University (one of the oldest Universities in India) built on Oxford model by the Brits is falling apart, even during British era, the University was famous for native Indian Literature studies. But it is falling apart now, no teachers, only Oxford like architecture. Massive National libraries built by the British are all falling apart.

  307. @Tumarkin

    Tumarkin,

    I’m sorry, I can’t recall, which is a failure on my part. It was in my notes, which come from all sources – my guess is that this particular fact came not from online but from a book on Zionists/Zionism, and it would have been in English or Russian.

    I remember years ago, while visiting a relative in Tel Aviv, I asked about the sculpture, but like so many today (in all societies) he had no idea about anything, including not knowing who Yigal Tumarkin was.

    Your relative is a cantankerous, difficult, provocative, and insightful man, and the world will be poorer when he leaves it.

    • Replies: @Tumarkin
  308. anarchyst says:
    @Malla

    During the turbulent “civil-rights” mess of the 1950s and 1960s, we used to have a saying: “Behind every Negro, there is a jew”, as almost all of the carpetbagger civil-rights promoters and handlers (both behind the scene and overtly) were New York-based jews, who later in their illustrious “careers” morphed into poverty p!mps, race hustlers, and civil-rights attorneys.

  309. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    Oh please. We’re the Chosen People for a reason and we have suffered a great deal for it. Just because want to stay in the mud forever doesn’t mean that you should.

    • Replies: @Malla
  310. gT says:
    @denk

    So sorry, China wanted to rule the world together with the USA via globalization via the New World Order, but the plan didn’t work out too well, so sorry. All the smokescreens and distractions in the world can’t hide that, so sorry.

    and more people are beginning to realize the truth about China, so sorry

    http://katehon.com/article/chinas-globalist-agenda

    • Replies: @denk
  311. Malla says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    No one respects a running dog: not Liu Xiaobo and not you.

    More like, nobody likes those who speak the harsh truth.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  312. @Malla

    I’m waiting for Gordon Chang’s predictions to come true any day now.

    Same goes for all related hokum by self-haters.

    • Replies: @Joe Wong
  313. Tumarkin says:
    @The Seneca Effect

    He is all those things. Would make a fitting epitaph. He’s also prolific, in words and art, leaving a complex legacy for us to reckon with (at least we who knew him: like your young relative, Israelis in general may not be so inclined, though we’ll see what happens when he passes).

    I was surprised to see him referenced here, and moved at seeing his words and art invoked “accurately,” for lack of a better term, in this wide-ranging discussion. Maybe not so surprising on reflection: he was deeply affected by his travels in India and elsewhere in Asia, and was both a diaspora German (birth name Peter Hellberg) and a pioneering Israeli. He’ll be amused to hear about the conversation here and the controversial venue for it: still stirring things up from his sickbed. Thanks for this unexpected personal jaunt. Finally, I agree with you that it’s an ugly sculpture, and in the right context he might too, beauty not being paramount in his aesthetic.

  314. denk says:
    @Malla

    Since you’r an avid anglophile ,
    Lets compare China to your idol, fukus.

    China HAD TO support Pak cuz its practically Beijing’s only breathing space,
    being strangled from all sides by hostile forces.

    fukusi[ndia] have no such worries, no existential threats,
    they do have the luxury to choose their ‘allies’ , yet they WENT OUT OF THEIR WAY to lap up hundreds of hideous regimes as long as its ‘our kind of guys’

    Compared to the democrazies, China actually looks like an angel, !

    hhhhhh

    P.S.

    did Pak commit war crimes as alleged ?
    prolly,
    but Im not gonna take wiki’s words for it 1

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  315. denk says:
    @Malla

    So China didnt jump on the opportunity offered by USSA to attack India cuz of USSR ?

    Yet Beijing had no hesitation thrashing the Indian’s ass in 1962 ,
    in defiance to BOTH USSA./USSR !

    What gives ?
    Obviously USSR wasnt the factor here,
    in 1962 China was attacked !

    VN….

    Same scenario, China launched a punitive campaign, AFTER repeated warnings to Hanoi not to shell Chinese villages at the border fell on deaf ears.

    “no first strike’ principle at work,

    QED

    hhhhhh

    • Replies: @Malla
  316. denk says:
    @Malla

    That pic serves as the perfect backdrop to my question,
    How did the ‘seven sisters’ , aka NE, ended up in India, the people simply dont belong. !
    Fact is, when you look at a map, the NE stick out like a sore thumb from the Indian land mass. !

    Here’s a dirty little secret but you wont hear it in fukus MSM…
    The ‘seven sisters’ were actually part of South Tibet and its peripherals, before India, ‘the world’s largest democracy’, WMMed, genocided, gangraped them into mother India.

    That why I’ve been calling ‘
    The Tibet that no anglos wanna talk about’ !

    Exhibit Nagaland….[same for Assam, Manipur;........]

    ‘ By my side is Yongkong, a Naga who has been in exile in London since the 1960s.

    He watches the film quietly; the villagers gathering to give their testimonies, one by one. A woman in white describes what the soldiers did to her children. A man, a rice grower, twists and turns as he re-enacts the various forms his own torture took – finally opening his mouth to the camera and showing the place where his teeth were before the Indian soldiers plucked them out with pliers.
    ………………
    Do we look like Indians?’ another Naga exile, Khodao Yanthan, rhetorically asks me.

    The three million Nagas who inhabit the region are of Sino-Mongolian origin.

    Culturally, linguistically and physically they have more in common with the Karen people in Burma or even the Chinese than with the Indians. Indian troops – many from the notoriously undisciplined Assam Rifles – are taught that the Nagas are cannibals and head-hunters who must be dealt with accordingly. The result is pitiful.

    https://newint.org/features/1994/06/05/keynote

    If you think thats evil, reading this make my blood boil,,,

    ‘For 91 years, ever since the Simon Commission’s visit, we have been saying “Nagas are not Indians”. Between 1955-1964 more than 200,000 Nagas were killed by Indian army shot to death, starved to death, burnt to death, raped to death, among those raped to death 709 were said to be below 20 years. Many maimed and many became insane. 4 lakhs detained in concentration camp for one year, chained and locked, all in the so called state of Nagaland. Out of 860 villages 645 were burned some of them 19 times with all their granaries. (Sources – The blood and tears written by Kaka D Iralu and From Phizo to Muivah written br Dr Lanu Nungsan Ao).
    Can we the Nagas in Manipur simply say it did not happen to us?’

    http://kanglaonline.com/2016/12/the-hill-valley-divide-widens-again/

    Well it might as well ‘did not happen’ as far as the five eyes is concerned,
    they have a full time job keep an eye on ‘oppression’ in Chinese Tibet !

    I heard the ICC is now guning for Duterte’s ‘human rights abuses’, obviously cuz Ph is no longer brown nosing uncle sham like Modi !

    hhhhhhhh

    Ergo,

    The appointment of some locals to high officialdom in NE is nuthin but window dressing to obfuscate the hideous realities on the ground.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  317. denk says:
    @gT

    Hey kiddie,

    I had kicked that anon butt back then,

    http://www.unz.com/ldinh/practical-vietnam-imploding-america-and-china-as-beacon/#comment-2138352

    Was that you ?

    *so sorry*

    You ought ta be, just keep making yourself look like a sorry ass !

    do I smell some Indian trolls, ?

    hhhhh

    But thanks to you, I come across a comment that I missed ,

    http://www.unz.com/ldinh/practical-vietnam-imploding-america-and-china-as-beacon/#comment-2147523

    My apology to TT, I had prolly gone on to some other business and missed your comment, some times I dont follow up on a thread for too long,.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
    , @gT
  318. Malla says:
    @denk

    China HAD TO support Pak cuz its practically Beijing’s only breathing space,
    being strangled from all sides by hostile forces.

    Stupid excuse. Pakistan, the U.S. ally?

    did Pak commit war crimes as alleged ?
    prolly,
    but Im not gonna take wiki’s words for it

    Yes they did. If Wiki or any other source say USA did something bad, you take word for it. If on other hand it says some Chinese ally did something bad, you no take word for it. Chicom sense of justice.

    hehehehe

  319. Malla says:
    @denk

    So China didnt jump on the opportunity offered by USSA to attack India cuz of USSR ?

    Yet Beijing had no hesitation thrashing the Indian’s ass in 1962 ,
    in defiance to BOTH USSA./USSR !

    The USSR did not threaten China in 1962. The USSR was overall neutral.

    https://www.rbth.com/articles/2012/10/25/reassessing_the_soviet_stand_on_the_indo-china_conflict_18635

    There was no open Soviet threat to China in 1962

    1971 was different. People’s Republic of China was in bed with USA in 1971. With fukus. Making sweet love. So USSR was not so neutral in 1971. Remember, when Soviets thunder, Chicoms shake in their boots.

    hehehehe

    “no first strike’ principle at work,

    LOL LMFAO. Is this what you call no first strike principle?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War

    Chinese forces entered northern Vietnam and captured several cities near the border. On March 6, 1979, China declared that the gate to Hanoi was open and that their punitive mission had been achieved, before withdrawing their troops from Vietnam.

    Entered? Entered? How you enter another nation as no first strike? You drinking a lot of strong warm baiju again?

    If that is no strike principle of Chicoms, the world is very concerned.

    hehehehe

    • Replies: @TT
  320. Malla says:
    @denk

    I am aware of it. India act like imperialist power. We had no right to capture and force them in Indian Union against their will.

    Naga “A cry for Freedom”

    But you make mistake. This has nothing to do with fukus. This was done by Indian ‘freedom fighters’, who fought for independence from Britain. Nehru was Independence Hero, Sardar Patel was independence Hero, they deny north Eastern people their own independence. The Indian elites, when they did this to the Nagas and other, were ENEMIES of UK and USA. They were the freedom fighters, they taught in school curriculum to hate the British, covering up the good things British Raj did. India joined fukus much later.

    So why is it that international press before 1947 were crying to the British to give independence to India, keep quite about Indian imperialism in north East? Why they keep quite? Whay they accuse Apartheid South Africa and Rhodesia of evil but keep quite about India in North East/Kashmir, Indonesia in Irian Jaya? Why western lefties talk all day about evul White colonialism but keep mum about non White imperialism???? Why Why Why? That is my question. And how is it that one people who get independence from another power themselves take away the independence of other peoples?

    The ‘seven sisters’ were actually part of South Tibet

    False, Only Arunachal Pradesh was Southern Tibet. The others are different. But they deserve independence from India anyways.

  321. Malla says:
    @denk

    Hey denko buddy,
    gT is rite.

    Check dis out

    How the Rothschilds Prepared China to Be the Next USA

    hehehehe
    After USA collapse, China will be new fukus.

    hehehehe

    Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu : ‘Jewish and Chinese culture have much in common’
    He says there is so much similarity in between Chinese people and Jewish people. He says ‘marry the two’.

    hehehehe

    Chinese have a lot of similarity with Jews. Should one trust Chinese? Bibi destroyed the credibility of Chinese. Now all think Chinese are like Jews and not trust them.
    Congrats for marriage, China, for getting new Jewish wife. Where is honeymoon?

    hehehehehe

  322. Malla says:
    @denk

    The appointment of some locals to high officialdom in NE

    High officialdom in only NE????
    Kiren Rijiju, is Union Minister of State for Home Affairs of All India.
    Minister of State of Home Affairs. He can decide fate of mainland Indian states. He controls all police in all India. He is that powerful!!!

    • Replies: @denk
  323. TT says:
    @denk

    Ok, i will try visit NE, always wonder what is inside that huge land link to India in a thread like a forgotten land.

    The Nagas, Assamese, Manipuris……
    They dont look Indian at all !
    Why do the heartlanders call them chinki terrorists ?

    They have to stick out tongue to prove Indian like Mukkam & Israel did.

    Heartlanders are right to call them chinki terrorists, look its obvious they are like some Yunnan tribal no matter how they assimilate.

    Illegally hiding inside India forest with those long string weapon and scanty army uniform, for sure they have no gd intend but forcing Indian armies to rape them for self defense, then they cry foul. What a cunning terrorist.

    • Replies: @Malla
  324. Malla says:
    @denk

    Henry Kissinger, Slimeball, fukus Darth vader Lord on Chinese Leader

    http://www.china.org.cn/english/features/dengxiaoping/103469.htm

    Deng Xiaoping One of Greatest Men of 20th Century: Kissinger

    I see trees of green, red roses too
    I see them bloom for me and you
    And I think to myself, what a wonderful world….

    hehehehehe

    Kissinger, fukus Darth vader Lord on Indians

    https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/indira-gandhi-is-a-bitch-the-indians-are-bastards/227789

    Kissinger: Well, the Indians are bastards anyway. They are starting a war there.

    Who iz with fukus? India or China? It iz fukuchi behind the scenes.

    hehehehe

    • Replies: @TT
  325. gT says:
    @denk

    Stop imagining crap you crouching dragon hidden tiger load of BS. And once again, so sorry, China wanted to rule the world together with the USA via globalization via the New World Order, but the plan didn’t work out too well, so sorry.

    • Replies: @TT
  326. TT says:
    @Malla

    “Punitive mission” is not first strike. China is quite impressive to keep its no first strike rule very consistently under much threats so far.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War

    The reason cited for the attack was to support China’s ally, the Khmer Rouge of Cambodia, in addition to the mistreatment of Vietnam’s ethnic Chinese minority and the Vietnamese occupation of the Spratly Islands which were claimed by China.

    After Viet invaded Cambodia, SEAsia will be next. Asean with Spore exPM Lee KY flown in to personally asked DengXP help defending Asean. All Asean troops enmassed at Thai border to form second line to defend once Cambodia fall, est. can last few weeks at most.

    This is very severe condition for Asean, as world most powerful US Allied had just suffered disastrous defeat under Vietcon, won’t be able to get its people stomach another bigger bloody war immediately.

    • Replies: @Malla
  327. TT says:
    @Malla

    Cannot sit idly by!!! Had to sit idly by because when Soviets thunder, Chicoms (and murricans/Brits) shivered.

    This repeated comment is not true. China & US aren’t afraid of Soviet if they need to attack India.

    China probably think its not justifiable if Pak was really at fault, even tho they had allied up against India threat. Without China ground involvement, US can’t defend Pak against Soviet & India.

    China had proven itself in Vietnam war against Soviet threat, and against US nuclear threat in Korean War. This is why US takes Chinese warning very serious, but not Russian.

    1. Under Soviet threat, China enmassed 1.5M troops at Soviet border, went ahead to attacked Vietnam without US military backing. Nuclear armed Soviet failed to honor its 25yrs mutual defense treaty with Viet.

    Loud thunder storm without rain is empty.

    2. US aggressively risked nuclear war with Soviet in Cuba missile crisis, embargo Cuba, blockaged Soviet ships and forced its nuclear submarine to surface which tantamount to act of war. Soviet withdrawn. Im not a fan to justify this hedgmon US crazy challenge to nuclear armed Soviet, but truth should prevail.

    Wonder where are the 1.4B mainland Chinese, always depending on few foreigners to help defend China.

    Wiki.

    On November 3, 1978, the Soviet Union and Vietnam signed a 25-year mutual defense treaty, which made Vietnam the “linchpin” in the Soviet Union’s “drive to contain China.”[52]

    On January 1, 1979, Chinese Vice-premier Deng Xiaoping visited the United States for the first time and told American president Jimmy Carter: “The little child is getting naughty, it’s time he get spanked.” (original Chinese words: 小朋友不听话,该打打屁股了。).[53]
    On February 15, the first day that China could have officially announced the termination of the 1950 Sino-Soviet Treaty of Friendship, Alliance and Mutual Assistance, Deng Xiaoping declared that China planned to conduct a limited attack on Vietnam.

    The reason cited for the attack was to support China’s ally, the Khmer Rouge of Cambodia, in addition to the mistreatment of Vietnam’s ethnic Chinese minority and the Vietnamese occupation of the Spratly Islands which were claimed by China. To prevent Soviet intervention on Vietnam’s behalf, Deng warned Moscow the next day that China was prepared for a full-scale war against the Soviet Union; in preparation for this conflict, China put all of its troops along the Sino-Soviet border on an emergency war alert, set up a new military command in Xinjiang, and even evacuated an estimated 300,000 civilians from the Sino-Soviet border.[54] In addition, the bulk of China’s active forces (as many as one-and-a-half million troops) were stationed along China’s border with the Soviet Union.[55]

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @denk
  328. TT says:
    @gT

    China wanted to rule the world together with the USA via globalization via the New World Order,

    No…. China want to go it alone without US even been offered the G2.

    China vision is larger than NWO, its a multi polars properous peaceful world co-exist in harmony, under non interference and mutual respect system, with China at center.

    China will avoid all historical empires’ same mistake in expansionary imperialism that collapsed everyone of them. It could become center of the world for long time if base on moral virtue and self sustained strength.

    If you can understd Mandarin, Watch youtube 大国崛起 you will get insight of what China up to. Im observing China closely for last 20yrs, they have grand plan not just to revive past glory, but to reach another apex that will affect the world greatly.

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwXMmy5fUrVzrhuQ4Bp-CB9qIN1rOmhdf

    • Replies: @gT
  329. TT says:
    @Malla

    Deng Xiaoping One of Greatest Men of 20th Century: Kissinger…

    Kissinger: Well, the Indians are bastards anyway. They are starting a war there.

    Who iz with fukus? India or China? It iz fukuchi behind the scenes.

    Indians called US(Kissinger) slimeball, he called Indians bastard, that’s why they are perfect soulmate by nature. Well, all are soulmates when they can benefit each other. Only China & India calling Ba..ba…brother long time but still can’t make up.

    No leaders had really criticized Mr DengXP, but many praised him. Even enemies like Fukus and West all out to smear China, they remained venerating him as a Greatest Man in personal level. That speak great volume for itself.

    Mr Deng, who survived Mao’s communism, had brought China 1.4Bil poor nation from disastrous war strickened state to current prosperous Socialist country that will shape the world positively for a long time. Such achievements is qualified to make Mr Deng one of Greatest Men in history.

    Mr Lee Kuan Yew said that too, even go further in his memoir, “There is only one leader i admired, that is Mr Deng Xiao Ping.” As Deng admirer, LKY himself, had make his mark in Singapore, is one leader that:

    Henry A. Kissinger said: The world will miss Lee Kuan Yew.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-world-will-miss-lee-kuan-yew/2015/03/23/80867914-d172-11e4-8fce-3941fc548f1c_story.html?utm_term=.3a8becf119f2

    Lee Kuan Yew was a great man. And he was a close personal friend, a fact that I consider one of the great blessings of my life. A world needing to distill order from incipient chaos will miss his leadership.

    …He developed into a world statesman who acted as a kind of conscience to leaders around the globe.

    ….

    A visit by Lee to Washington was a kind of national event. A presidential conversation was nearly automatic; eminent members of the Cabinet and Congress would seek meetings. They did so not to hear of Singapore’s national problems; Lee rarely, if ever, lobbied policymakers for assistance. His theme was the indispensable U.S. contribution…..His interlocutors attended not to be petitioned but to learn from one of the truly profound global thinkers of our time.

    • Replies: @Malla
  330. TT says:
    @Another German reader

    Enjoy your interesting rare insight of Viets.

    Could you share the latest status in Germany about Muslim refugees affecting Germany, what’s possible future outcome like a uprising to overthrow gov by either peaceful voting or violent means, or continue eroded till muslimized?

    Why would Merkel want so many Muslim refugees and low grade foreign migrants in? Germany is extremely high developed country when i visited, it don’t need low level immigrants or can they assimilate. Social cost will be astronomical.

  331. denk says:
    @TT

    If thing going so bad in India, then i might have to move to Taiwan first, from there sneak into China after they unified. Its almost impossible to get citizenship in China, safe from India WMM.

    Bad news here my friend !

    They’r all over Sg, HK, SEA, these Indian sexpats,

    TW is also bringing in h1b Indians, ditto Jp

    can you see the patterns, all fukus vassals are required to shoot themselves in the foot by voluntarily getting penetrated by fukus sepoys !

    Even China is now crawling with Indian WMM

    https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/2-indian-men-held-in-china-for-trying-to-molest-woman-1429802

    The ‘seven sisters’, Sikkim, Bhutan had long been zapped by Indian tsunami,

    Myanmar is currently being hammered by fukus , UN for its attempt to stem this yellow holocaust.

    Is NK the only yellow country left standing ??

    Those who whine about white genocide aint seen nuthin yet !

    hhhhhh

    • Replies: @TT
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
  332. Joe Wong says:
    @Anon

    Vietnam has been part of China more than a thousand years starting BC. It is written all over the places in history including Vietnamese own history. Unless you are one of those megalomaniac Eurocentrists who consider there was no civilization outside of Europe while stealing the fruits produced by other civilizations as their own inventions.

    • Replies: @Anon
  333. M.Radant says:

    More proof all Jews need to be exterminated once and for all!

    • Replies: @Anon
  334. Miltiades says:
    @Joe Wong

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam

    Either you are incorrect about Vietnamese history or Wikipedia is.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    , @Joe Wong
  335. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Joe Wong

    I mean if you could share some historical facts to back up will be good, not a refute to your claim.

    Ancient China had labeled all southern people including Guangzhou, Fujian, SE Asia as Southern Barbarians because of their uncivilization compare to advanced Northern China, which make Vietnam even more unlikely of any interest to them.

    Its a burden to have such faraway land that required your protection and aids but nothing in return. That’s probably the reason why US didn’t want to include Mexico in it.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  336. Joe Wong says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    Anyone exposes anything fabricated by the West in according to their ‘God-fearing’ morally defunct evil ‘inquisitor’ imagation is troll, no wonder nearly all clips on the Youtube about China produced by the West follow the Orientalism laid down by their barbaric racist forebears since 18th century.

    You are contradicting yourself, if Vietnamese was not closely linked to China, the French, American and the Japanese would not have spent so much effort and spilt so much blood to make sure the Vietnamese will never able to read their own history and get back to the old relationship with China. You should know if not the corrupted and incompetent Manchurian court, the joint Vietnamese and Qing forces would have kicked the French out of Indo-China right from the beginning, China would not have such ungrateful thorn at it side right now.

    French was always looked down by the Brits, because the French always stole spoils on the Brits coattail like the American.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  337. @Miltiades

    Being a troll, he can occupy both positions at once.

  338. Malla says:
    @TT

    Indians called US(Kissinger) slimeball,

    Wrong, everybody KNOWS (not only Indians) he is a slimeball. He has been (and still is) behind a lot of policies of fukus.

  339. Malla says:
    @TT

    This repeated comment is not true. China & US aren’t afraid of Soviet if they need to attack India.

    China probably think its not justifiable if Pak was really at fault, even tho they had allied up against India threat.

    It is true. Probably think?

    • Replies: @TT
  340. Malla says:
    @anonymous

    We’re the Chosen People for a reason

    Chosen people? What childish non sense is this? According to whom? When your ancestors wee barbarian nothings in the middle East, my ancestors had already composed the Vedas. Why Vedas not say you are chosen people? According to ancient Indians, your people would be called ‘Mleccha’ which means barbarian.
    It is all self gloating and nothing else. you are no chosen people and thus on that account at least you do not have to suffer.

    Just because want to stay in the mud forever doesn’t mean that you should.

    This ‘piece of Wisdom’ needs to be directed against jews more than anyone else.

    As far as chosen people b.s. , may be this will make things clear

  341. TT says:
    @denk

    Guess i have to troll even harder for Putin and Kim now, they might give me a honary citizenship for that like Paul CR. The last two safe countries from Malla’s kins… lol.

    Seriously, i think China leaders are smart enough for India WMM to even start. Indian is only good in English speaking countries, but not China. At max, India 1.3B is still less than China population, so can’t over run it. And Indian still see China with great enmity, as tho Chinese had slaved and killed them like British did.

  342. Malla says:
    @denk

    Well China decided to WMM us too. But we would not let them.

    http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/chinese-labourers-banned-from-indian-power-sector/521778/

    The government has banned Chinese labourers from working in the Indian power sector. What remains to be seen is whether Chinese power players will continue to bid on parts of larger projects if the hundreds of labourers required per project are banned from entering India, or if the Centre and much of the private sector will pitch in.

    “Those unskilled and semi-skilled workers can be found in India,” home minister P Chidambaram told The Indian Express. “We are no longer approving visas for temporary workers.”

    hhhhhhh

    • Replies: @denk
  343. Malla says:
    @TT

    “Punitive mission” is not first strike.

    How is punitive action not first strike????

    • Replies: @TT
  344. @Joe Wong

    You should know if not the corrupted and incompetent Manchurian court, the joint Vietnamese and Qing forces would have kicked the French out of Indo-China right from the beginning, China would not have such ungrateful thorn at it side right now.

    Qing are Manchus. What are you talking about? Are you even Chinese? Sometimes your rambles make me doubt, because you don’t even sound like one of the ultranationalists. You just…ramble, usually along SJW lines.

    In a world where the French didn’t exist, Vietnam would continue to be a thorn because opposition to China is essentially their founding myth. Its the glue that keeps them together.

    • Replies: @Joe Wong
  345. TT says:
    @Malla

    It is true. Probably think?

    Its not true even you repeat thousand time. Tell me why China dare defy Soviet military threat who had enmassed million troops at China northern border, launched punitive attack to Vietnam who actually had a mutual defense treaty that India don’t? After Soviet failed to attack China to help Vietnam, Soviet credibility was greatly damaged.

    I can’t read current China leaders mind, let alone those dead one. So the best guess i can said is they probably think, Pak case is not worth for China sacrifice like Vietnam & Korea under naked US invasion at its doorstep.

    May be they had regretted now, because a Pak’s Bangladesh will cutoff India access into 7sisters and Tibets. That also will give China access to Bay of Bengal more easily.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  346. Malla says:
    @denk

    Lets compare China to your idol, fukus.

    What???? There is nothing called fukus, it is and always has been fukuschi.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-12/new-world-order-takeover-very-real-and-will-begin-germany-and-china

    The New World Order Takeover Is Very Real… And Will Begin With Germany And China

    Some believe the NWO is a purely “western” construct and that eastern nations are defending themselves against an encroaching globalist empire. I have also shown that this is nonsense, and that eastern nations work closely with the same exact globalists they are supposedly at war with. This includes Russia’s Vladimir Putin, a figure often ignorantly praised by select liberty activists.

    What we see in the mainstream is conflict, yes; but it is theatrical conflict. At the end of the day, Eastern leaders pander to globalist high priests at the IMF and BIS and have lunch with NWO icons like Henry Kissinger, just as heads of the Republican Party and even Donald Trump’s family go out to parties with Democrat strategists and George Soros.

    It’s all a kabuki play. All the world is a stage…

    So, the question then remains, since the NWO and a one world economic system is in fact a real threat proven to exist through considerable evidence including the very words of prominent globalists, how does such a thing begin? If the U.S. is merely a limb that the globalists are willing to sacrifice in trade to gain even greater centralization, where will the NWO actually take root? As noted, both Eastern and Western nations are at the disposal of the international financiers, so it should come as no surprise that the NWO is seemingly taking shape around the relationship between two nations; one from either side.

    China has served the NWO model as more of an oppressive economic testing ground.

    China’s relationship with globalist institutions is well known. They are one of the first nations to openly call for a new global currency system headed by the IMF and based on the SDR basket. China has also recently been inducted into membership in the SDR basket by the IMF, showing that the back scratching is mutual.

    hhhhhhhhhhh

    http://yournewswire.com/george-soros-china-new-world-order/

    George Soros Announces China Must Lead The New World Order

    In an interview with the Financial Times, George Soros (‘Soros = Sore ass’ from all that humping from the devil himself LOL) has subtly laid out the banksters’ plan for ushering in the New World Order, announcing that China must lead the New World Order, “creating it and owning it” and supplanting the United States as the world’s economic superpower.

    hhhhhhhhhh

    I have been sayin this since the day I woz born. It is not fukus but fukuschi.

    hehehehehe

  347. Joe Wong says:
    @Miltiades

    The link confirmed that Vietnam was part of China for large part of its history, it seems you are reading it selectively based on the Cold war mentality.

    Wikipedia was written by the Westerner, so they present Vietnam in their point of view of Vietnam, not a Vietnam before they know about Vietnam, in addition the Wikipedia article did not mention the deep culture link between Vietnam and China, so the West can portray Vietnam to fit their never ending full spectrum dominance needs. The information of that article is skewed by the Western Eurocentrism bias; in fact most Wikipedia articles carry such systematic bias, for example the author(a Russian) wrote about Japanese Burakumin even claimed Japanese Kanji was developed by the Japanese themselves in according to his parallel development theory. Wikipedia is full of half-baked hypothesis written by Edward Harper Parker, Gordon Chang, or Peter Navarro like pundits. Wikipedia is in fact a skillfully disguised extension of Eurocentrism.

  348. TT says:

    Got to really stop visiting UNZ. Its so addicting sucking much of my time reading vast interesting comments from so many knowledgeable people.

    Malla and Denk are good soulmate, both knowledgeable and good funny writer….hehehehe..dont be coy, you are pro… really make me lol.

    • Replies: @Malla
  349. Malla says:
    @denk

    Ever wonder how Xinjiang got WMM into Middle Kingdom People’s Republic of China ?

    The Uyghurs
    They are not pure Mongoloids at all like the JKCs (Japanese, Koreans, Chinese)

    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2008/03/uyghurs-are-hybrids/

    The Uyghurs are an ‘in between’ population of pure Mongoloids (North East Asians Japanese, Koreans, Chinese) and pure Caucasoids (Northern Europeans like Russians, English, Germans, Poles, Swedes etc…).
    Uyghurs should be independent, they are more like Central Asian ex Soviet republic Stans.

    hehehehehe

  350. Joe Wong says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    Obviously, you are either not a Chinese or you are a mentally colonized Gweilo wannabe. You should know there was a clear distinction between Manchus and Chinese then. Qing force was Chinese not Manchus.

    You should be grateful, because someone is taking the trouble to point out the Western BS even on the UNZ Review.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  351. Malla says:
    @TT

    Thanks bud. Hey, even if we have differences of opinions sometimes, I enjoy reading your posts and debating you.
    And yes, I really like Denk’s comments too.

    • Replies: @TT
  352. TT says:
    @Malla

    The reason cited for the attack was to support China’s ally, the Khmer Rouge of Cambodia, in addition to the mistreatment of Vietnam’s ethnic Chinese minority and the Vietnamese occupation of the Spratly Islands which were claimed by China.

    Didn’t i give the reason? Viet make the first strike to China ally Cambodia, mistreat Chinese minority like Linh, and occupied China’s island.

    If India refuse to get out of Donglan after repeated warnings, China had to force them out. Is that call first strike or self defense? You got to understand meaning of first strike. Otherwise every tom dick harry will go into China land and do whatever they like as long their military don’t strike Chinese?

    Im not defending Denk debate with you here, as he is real pro, no need my clumsy add on.

    • Replies: @Malla
  353. Joe Wong says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    When the West cannot use destruction to get their way, they turn to delusion web weaver like Gordon Chang for savior, mind you Gordon Chang gets his tips from Peter Narrvao via his wife.

  354. Malla says:
    @TT

    If India refuse to get out of Donglan after repeated warnings, China had to force them out. Is that call first strike or self defense? You got to understand meaning of first strike. Otherwise every tom dick harry will go into China land and do whatever they like as long their military don’t strike Chinese?

    Donglan (Dokhlam) is different. India just got scared as it is so close to Bhutan. Recently with Nepal getting closer to China (because of Indian bullying and China building up good reputation in infrastructure development), India is scared of losing border nations to China’s side. India does not allow Bhutan to have diplomatic relations with China. They were even scared of Bhutan having diplomatic relations with Japan, even though India has good relations with Japan and Japan is very far away. We gave green signal only after a long time to Bhutan Japan diplomatic relations. This is obviously wrong, Bhutan is independent country and has right to have diplomatic relations with anybody it chooses.
    Bhutan had such protectorate relations with British Empire/British Raj/British India, not independent India. India forced Bhutan to continue the protectorate status even if Bhutan was not interested in continuing it anymore.

    You say China forced us out. Do you have any links to this? As, in India, media propaganda is that China got scared and we got out after giving tough lesson. I want the truth. Give me link in English if you have.

    • Replies: @TT
  355. Malla says:
    @TT

    That also will give China access to Bay of Bengal more easily.

    Past is past, China is getting access to Bay of Bengal via Myanmar OBOR and Bangladesh is also joining OBOR.

    http://www.dhakatribune.com/opinion/op-ed/2017/10/31/one-belt-one-road-means-bangladesh/

    http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/dhaka-defends-belt-and-road-project/article19804468.ece

    Dhaka defends China’s OBOR project

  356. Malla says:
    @denk

    Bhutan actually reversed the Hindu WMM many years ago, expelling Nepalese Hindus (mostly madeshi). They are Hindu Nepalese, India used earlier, to absorb Sikkim by financing fake anti King revolution.

    https://www.amren.com/news/2009/09/bhutan_refugees/

    But fukus/UN decided to use them as WMM on American Whitey instead.

    from

    https://www.amren.com/features/2013/10/the-refugee-racket/

    “Bhutan? These people were actually ethnic Nepalese who had moved, uninvited, into Bhutan, which kicked them out. They were living in refugee camps in what is actually their own country—Nepal—but the Nepalese didn’t want them either, so UNHCR decided we needed them”

  357. @Joe Wong

    Oh, what, the Han Bannermen that the Manchu were constantly trying to suppress in despite being overall more effective? Yes, there was a clear distinction. A distinction where Han could always count on being a second-class citizen that if lucky, he could someday be married and count as a Manchu, and while the Manchu Bannermen were basically a subsidized freeloading class…and this you defend?

    Although the banners were instrumental in the Qing Empire takeover of China proper in the 17th century from the Ming dynasty, they began to fall behind rising Western powers in the 18th century. By the 1730s, the traditional martial spirit had been discarded, as the well-paid Bannerman spent their time gambling and theatergoing. Subsidizing the 1.5 million men, women and children in the system was an expensive proposition, compounded by embezzlement and corruption

    Its immaterial either way. The Vietnamese had rebelled against the Ming dynasty after the successful invasion in 1400s; was that caused by the French? The Vietnamese defended against Qianlong Emperor’s invasion, was that caused by the French? For all practical purposes, by the time the Vietnamese loyalists to the Ming lost, any reality that Vietnam would be part of China anymore was gone. The purging of pro-Chinese sentiment was done by the Vietnamese, not by any foreign power at the time.

    So its mostly an impoverished country now. And it probably will remain that way forever. But its what they chose.

  358. TT says:
    @Malla

    You say China forced us out. Do you have any links to this? As, in India, media propaganda is that China got scared and we got out after giving tough lesson. I want the truth. Give me link in English if you have.

    Its just an example, not to mean China had taken physical action to drive India out that time.

    As many Western analysts pointed out, China is practising Sun Tze strategy, highest level is to win a war without fighting. But knowing a war means Obor, Brics, SCO and all grand plans, peaceful rise are in jeopardy, a result Yankee ploted with India as canon fodder, China tried to restraint.

    A large troops with multi rockets launchers and artillery had moved there, with permanent defense structure built up. Even Blood donation drive to prepare for real war, not an impulse to fight with mouth unprepared. Ultimatum is then given.

    India knew this is for real, so withdrawn since already gotten enough mileage.

    Dokhlam was a backward peaceful place. There is even no border fence or troops, just occasionally some border patrolling, and a dirt road. Now, India is facing a permanent armed large troop at its most sensitive chicken neck, what it has asked for.

  359. TT says:
    @Malla

    If you and denk found i stop responding or dissappear, it means i have successfully quit my addiction to read you guys funny comments, not some mishaps. Im in very safe 3rd world country now…but need to spend more quality time in my other interest. Unz took most of my data plan and time.

    • Replies: @denk
  360. gT says:
    @TT

    Yippy, its the cute, cuddly Disneyland fairy tale narrative again, you guys need a new play book with better tactics.

  361. Malla says:
    @TT

    Even tho Indian army has used a lot of brutality over the people there, there are concessions given too. Just like Han give concessions to minorities in PRC like exemption from One Child Policy.
    NE Indians do not have to pay many taxes paid by mainland Indians. Also mainland Indians cannot buy land in many NE states, can only lease land. NE people face more threat from Bangladeshi migrants than mainlander Indians. Though many mainlander Indian mercantile communities like Marwaris exploit North East Indians but they cannot own land, only lease, by government rule. Only in NE state of Tripura have the natives (like Kock Borok) become minority (WMMed) as Bengali Hindus moved there in millions to escape Bengali Muslims in 1971 War. Bengali Hindus have become majority there.

    • Replies: @TT
    , @denk
  362. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @M.Radant

    You guys have serious problem. Did jews ever harm you? They didn’t even steal a cent from you or touch your butt yet you harbour such sickening thots to terminate them once and for all like cockroaches.

    Everyone is digging jews hard here, Malla even come out with a long collection of poetics verse that make me laugh. But probably for fun, and open for jews to defend or mock us back as we deserved for starting it.

    Ron is a jews, who kindly give us a platform to enjoy it free. You wanna terminate him?

  363. Malla says:
    @TT

    Maybe you are right. Maybe China was not gonna attack India in 1971, no first strike principle and all. But from India’s point of view, our government was concerned of such a possibility. Indeed the Soviet-Indian accord was signed with China (as well as the U.S.A and Great Britain) in mind.
    From

    http://www.indiandefencereview.com/spotlights/1971-manekshaw-prepares-for-war/

    1971: Manekshaw Prepares for War

    “Though there had been no open hostilities with the Chinese after 1962, except for an artillery duel in 1967 around Nathu La, India could not be sure of China’s attitude if we went to war with Pakistan. That country’s leaders had consistently wooed China and had been receiving assurances of friendship and considerable aid in weapons and equipment. In the 22-day war of 1965, China had issued an ultimatum to India and had moved some troops threateningly, but had refrained from intervention.

    Sensing the likelihood of war over Bangladesh, Pakistan’s rulers had been at great pains to cement their friendship with China. At the military level, India’s planners proposed to neutralise the Chinese threat to some extent with a winter campaign, when the passes connecting India and Tibet would be snowbound. But the Chinese would still have some potential for intervention. At this stage, the politicians came to the rescue with the Indo-Soviet Treaty of Friendship and Cooperation. The clause on mutual help in case of aggression1 was intended to deter the Chinese in case they wanted to come in on Pakistan’s side. ”

    From

    http://www.rediff.com/news/2003/apr/03sam1.htm

    “The delay witnessed the establishment of a formal Bangladesh government in exile inside India, enabled the government of India to finalise a Treaty of Friendship with the Soviet Union and neutralise interference from both China and the US.”

  364. TT says:
    @Orwellian State

    First, let us make clear that Chinese speak many kind of languages and dialects, not just Mandarin Chinese. For the China official language used in Beijing its better to just call it Mandarin (Chinese) here to avoid confusing with dialects. Many Chinese still speak their own dialects like Cantonese, Fujian-Hokkien, Teochew, Hakka, Hainan….etc.

    Singapore is the only Chinese dominant society that uses English as its lingua franca. Lee Kuan Yew was educated in the UK and was very pro-British in his early years. I think that has a lot to do with why Singapore is such a clean(both figurative and literal) and safe country.

    I would said it got to do more with LKY leadership quality than this educated in UK, very pro-British claims. Many countries leaders are educated in UK, pro-British, yet their countries are dirty and unsafe. HK during British ruling, was a stellar example of dirty and unsafe place. Even UKUS themselves weren’t safe consider its high crime rates. These speak for itself.

    However, LKY did mentioned he had noticed of UK greenery during his study there, which aspired him to apply on Spore.

  365. TT says:
    @Orwellian State

    HK was ruled by the British for 100 years, but the HKers kept Chinese as their lingua franca, they never fully adopted English norms, and remained very much a Chinese society, which is why the triads ran wild there for a while, while the British turned a blind eye.

    HK
    Under British 100yrs ruling, HKers never kept Mandarin Chinese as their lingua franca simply because majority aren’t educated to speak Mandarin at all. They only can speak Cantonese, with some English.

    Yes, HK was full of crimes because corrupted British turning a blind eye, either of no goodwills or utter negligent. Upon returning to China, crimes were massively cracked down and HK today has lowest crime rate. Did HK people all start speaking English and adopt English norm after China took over like you said a prerequisite for safe clean country? No, most actually start learning Chinese and speak Mandarin, while their Cantonese traditional life goes on.

    Ironically, those countries uses English as lingual franca and fully adopted English norms, are having highest crime rates. Where Anglo touches, it becomes crime infested corrupted place.

    Taiwan
    Whereas for Taiwan, KMT had brought over the original Chinese language 繁体字 and traditional culture together with many Chinese elites, and preserved till these days without been destroyed by Culture Revolution in China or affected by China simplified Chinese writing 简体字. These are real preserved traditional Chinese culture.

    And most Taiwanese actually speak their local dialect闽南语, similar to Hokkien 福建话use in Asean, or a mixture with Mandarin. Those triads and gangsters are more inclined to use common macho dialect instead of Mandarin usually spoken by the educated deemed a weakling. Taiwan is actually ranked among lowest crimes rate country, although their triads have high standing in global secret society.

  366. TT says:
    @Orwellian State

    Singapore is the only Asian society that does not have a black economy or gang culture. Lee Kuan Yew dragged them out of the rotten traditional Chinese culture by making them all learn and speak English, and cracked down hard on all the tongs.

    Its foolish to call 5000yrs civilization of tradition Chinese culture as rotten. Every civilization has its own merits and cons.

    Singapore
    LKY himself emphasized much on traditional Chinese culture, esp Confucianism, as his corner stone to guide his own Hakka family/clans and rule the country. All his three children were purposely sent to study in Chinese medium school until high school to instill the Chinese value deep in them before moving on to higher English medium school merely because English is the dominating medium, not because English is any superior compare to Chinese, Japanese, Germans, French, Spanish….

    However, LKY had correctly see the important rise of English as business medium due to US hegemonic power. So English is adopted as first language for all English medium school, while different ethnics study their own mother tongue as 2nd language, namely Chinese, Malay, Tamil. But Nanyang University(before shut down to cutoff Chinese communist) & Chinese school like Hua Zhong High School still produce many of Singapore best elites, tycoons, bankers,… and ministers till these days.

    In LKY memoir, he cited his observation that those Chinese educated ones were most intelligence, very patriotic and willingly to sacrifice, esp communist, will give up their life for the good of country, while most English educated one embracing Anglo value were only seeking opportunities in prosperous time and flee on the moment of trouble.

    Long history of Organized Crimes
    Singapore has a long history of organized gangster culture involving all races(Indians, Malays, Eurasian too) till now which the older generation knew better or had directly involved. It also has one of biggest black economy (eg. leader in global soccer match fixing, Top10 money laundry country). Interestingly, all Anglo associated countries are the forefront in black economy too, with US the apex.

    Lee KY was ruthless in cracking down on organized gangs using infamous Internal Security Act(ISA), a open ended jail term without trial. ISA is most feared by all till this very day. It got nothing to do with English usage but a combination of many factors like good governing, improve living standard, education, etc.

    How SG police is so super efficient in crime control and arresting criminals?

    Here’s the trick. Besides adopting all effective conventional tactics, Police and Gangs are closely linked. When a crime happens in a certain gang’s territory, that gang chief is responsible. Only gangs know how to track down and restraint gangs efficiently in their own way and network.

    Police will arrest disobedient gangsters giving trouble, and co-exist with cooperative one. This is most efficient self-regulated controlled crime applied in most countries including yours. Don’t be naive thinking there is no organized criminal gangs in some country.

  367. TT says:
    @Orwellian State

    All the illicit activities in the Chinese diaspora are among people who still speak Chinese.

    This is like saying all child sexual crimes in the UK paedophiles are among people who still speak English. Sure some speak wales, scottish, Irish…

    In fact, many Chinese diaspora couldn’t speak Mandarin, let alone those uneducated criminals. No gangster will speak Mandarin to make himself a laughing stock bcos its a language deemed as used by weakling educated gentleman. Gangster prefer to use their own macho dialects with jargon peppered with obscene fxxk and sending regards to others mother private parts. Using Mandarin is like Anglo mafia using Shakespeare’s old English poetic language, not very eloquent and awkward.

    Nowsaday most criminals are better educated, speak English. They utilize IT to run criminal business efficiently eluding Police tracking, like illegal loan shark. They employed professionals and set up front shops to launder money, legalize and corporatize their illicit business. Those still using dialects are been look down as obsolete uneducated gangs.

  368. TT says:
    @Orwellian State

    The only way for the Chinese to stop corruption or gang activities is when they adopt English as their primary language. The same can be said of all Asian groups.

    Name one country esp in the West who speak English as primary language but has no corruption or gang activities? While you are glorifying English as moral superior Language that when adopted will eliminate crimes in Asia, yet all English speaking Anglo countries are themselves the most corrupted with highest crime rates in world ranking, esp USUK!

    Anglos might be very established to legalize big corruptions like Clinton’s fund while keeping daily small deal clean, even legalizing drugs usage as Opoid, still their high crimes rate can’t be hidden.

    The biggest drug organizers are also mostly educated & sophisticated western English speaking drug lords, CIA is the chief Godfather(quote Globalresearch) large scale farming in Afghanistan, transporting in tonnes using container cargo and flight under diplomats cover.

    You might want to educate yourself that all Mandarin speaking countries (China, Taiwan, HK, Singapore) and most Asia(Japan, Korea) that you mentioned, all have the top10 lowest crime rates, while all English speaking anglo countries like US, UK, Australia,… have highest crimes rating.

    Your nonsensical claim is thus without merits.

    http://chartsbin.com/view/39717

    http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Violent-crime/Murder-rate

    Who are Singapore Chinese diaspora
    Lee Kuang Yew was the only gold medalist of Cambridge University, first and only one in 15yrs history no British can achieved. Yet he spent much time to learn Chinese till his old age, not English. Singapore, with 75% Chinese ethnics majority still speaking Mandarin, is as some had highly appraised, equivalent to Northern Europe, having many Top global rankings well above every Anglo countries.

    These highly achieved Chinese diaspora, are what LeeKY reminded the West: “If you think Spore is highly achieved, then you should know we(including him) are only the descendants of poor China peasants who came Singapore to work as labour. The real elites are all in China and Taiwan KMT. What we had/can achieve, they will do in many folds given similar peaceful condition.”

    That really scare the shits out of all Potus and Congress elites everytime he reminded them to work with China for a peaceful rise. Trumps is first Potus to miss that important message after LKY death.

    • Replies: @Malla
  369. TT says:
    @Malla

    Heartlanders are right to call them chinki terrorists, look its obvious they are like some Yunnan tribal no matter how they assimilate.

    Illegally hiding inside India forest with those long string weapon and scanty army uniform, for sure they have no gd intend but forcing Indian armies to rape them for self defense, then they cry foul. What a cunning terrorist.

    Ahh… so these women are actually minority ethnics of India, not illegal sneak in terrorists. They look nothing Indian but absolutely of China minority ethnics, how they ended up been in India land becoming its minority, targeted as chinki terrorists?

    So Indian has grabbed their land again and blamed them for wearing scanty uniform fighting with string instruments, what a sins they have done. Still malevolent Indian gave them tax concession after violating them as punishment, how kind our indies… hehehehe…

  370. denk says:
    @Malla

    He controls all police in all India. He is that powerful!!!

    Hmm

    So they appoint a NE man to oversee the rape of NE ?

    Like adding insult to injury !

    hhhhhh

  371. denk says:
    @Orwellian State

    both are dishonest and untrustworthy

    Paled face speaking in forked tongue,

    just ask the Indians !

    hhhhhhh

    • Replies: @Malla
  372. denk says:
    @TT

    Wonder where are the 1.4B mainland Chinese, always depending on few foreigners to help defend China.

    I feel your pain. !

    But dont blame the Chinese, I doubt even 1% frequent any English forums, let alone political sites/

    Trouble is,
    The CCP has absolutely no idea of information warfare.

    Every country’s embassies have dedicated personnels to scour the local press for ‘negative’ stories and to counter it when necessary.
    I’ve never seen Chinese embassies doing this duty.

    Even discrepit Indonesia has embassy staffs monitoring Chinese media, no less !
    I was surprised some years back when Indon embassy wrote to the Chinese mag ‘Asiaweek’ to ‘clarify’ some perceived errors in a story about Indon !

    No wonder China has such a negative image in the world today..
    fukusi rumour mills have the field all to themselves !

    Its left to old men like us who couldnt stand all the B.S. and take it up on ourself to do something about it .
    YOu’r right, what a thankless job. !

    If only CCP would give me one dollar for every post I wrote since 1999,
    hhhhhhhh

    • Replies: @TT
  373. Malla says:
    @TT

    while all English speaking anglo countries like US, UK, Australia,… have highest crimes rating.

    What? US, UK, Australia have highest crime rating?
    They have higher crime rating than Haiti? Guatemala? Brazil? Venezuela?

    Non Anglos commit crimes in these countries far above their percentage of population. Remove non Anglos and the crime rate will plummet.

    • Replies: @TT
  374. Malla says:
    @denk

    just ask the Indians !

    Me Indian sez ‘China is perfect heaven, peaceful rising Middle Kingdom (rising so fast peacefully that it will escape Earth’s gravity very soon), full of fluffy panda angels with perfect balance of yin and yang, land of milk and honey and baiju fountains everywhere.’
    Even Borat agree with me.
    hehehehe

    • Replies: @denk
  375. Malla says:

    What I learn on Unz from denk

    People’s Republic of China

    Anglo World

    Japan

    India

    —————————

    Why does denk waste time writing posts? Denk should just post above post on all Unz pages and throughout the Internet and we will understand. We will get the message. He can save his time and efforts.
    hehehehe

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @TT
  376. denk says:
    @Malla

    Not you,

    Ask the native American Indians about how paled face speaking in forked tongue.

    They must be turning in their grave knowing that ..

    South Asia Indians also speak with forked tongues !

    Thats you guys.,
    hhhhh

    • Replies: @Malla
  377. denk says:
    @Malla

    Even tho Indian army has used a lot of brutality over the people there, there are concessions given too.

    You should try interviewing some Nagas how they feel about said ‘concessions’ !

    Is it supposed to write off the 300000 Nagas who’re ,,,
    Shot to death, starved to death. , tortured to death and rape to death ?

    It’d be funny if it hadnt been so brutal .

    hhhhhh

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  378. Malla says:
    @Malla

    I also learn the difference from denk and TT
    between
    Chicoms

    and Vietcoms

  379. Malla says:
    @denk

    You mean what I fork tongued Asian Indian said was all lies in that post, opposite of truth?
    So truth would be
    ‘China is imperfect hell, violently sinking Middle Kingdom, full of scaly reptilian devils with imbalance of yin and yang, no milk, no honey, no baiju anywhere’

    There, I guess that is the truth now.

    hehehehehe

  380. Malla says:
    @denk

    It is not funny at all, I agree
    Answer me this
    The whole world (the U.N, Western press) spoke about evil Apartheid South Africa and Rhodesia (which was a lot of b.s.) but keep quite about Nagaland and Mizoram in India?
    Are Indians more Anglo then Rhodesians or Afrikaners?

    • Replies: @denk
  381. Malla says:
    @denk

    And why you keep quite about Bangladesh/Pakistan?
    Only speak bad about India?

    Chittagong Hill tracts of Bangladesh
    Before colonization, the indigenous Jumma people of CHT were independent. There had been no external interference by any outside power in the affairs of the CHT until 1787, when an agreement was signed with the British, who started colonizing the area in 1860. From 1787 to 1860, the British government did not intervene in the internal administration of the CHT, then from 1860 to 1900 it administered CHT through a set of laws promulgated from time to time. For the maintenance of discipline among the police personnel in the CHT, Frontier Police Regulation III of 1881 was promulgated on the 7 December 1881 and the CHT Police Force was raised with indigenous Jumma people. In the interest of good governance of CHT, in 1900 the British government enacted the CHT Regulation 1 of 1900 and declared it as an Excluded Area in order to protect the Jumma people from economic exploitation by non-indigenous Bengali people, and to preserve their traditional socio-cultural and political institutions based on customary laws and communal ownership of land.
    In August 1947, the British handed over the administration of CHT to the government of Pakistan. The Pakistani government recognized CHT as an Excluded Area under the CHT Regulation of 1900 in the first Constitution of Pakistan adopted in 1956. However, from the outset the Pakistani government looked upon the Jumma people with an eye of suspicion for being anti-Pakistani as well as anti-Islam. The Jumma people were discriminated against in areas of employment, business, and education. Government policy was clearly revealed by the repeal of the CHT Frontier Police Regulation of 1881 that disbanded the Jumma police force in 1948.
    In 1950, implementing its brazen designs violating the principles and spirit of the CHT Regulation of 1900, the government of Pakistan started a Bengali Muslim settlement program which continued until 1966. The government enacted the CHT (Land Acquisition) Regulation in 1958 in order to grab the Jumma people’s ancestral lands. Moreover, the government snatched away the rights and privileges of the Jumma people by cancelling the Excluded Area status of the CHT in 1963. In 1960, in order to carry out its plan and break down the economic backbone of the Jumma people of the CHT in the name of so-called industrial development, the Pakistani government built the Kaptai hydro-electric dam on the Karnaphuli river in the heartland of the indigenous Jumma people.
    After nine months of war of independence against Pakistan, Bangladesh emerged as an independent state on 16 December 1971. The Jumma people, hoping that the new rulers of Bangladesh would realize their hopes and aspirations, demanded regional autonomy in a democratic way. Unfortunately, the government of Bangladesh did not respect their fundamental rights and did not write a single word in the Constitution regarding the entity and safeguard of the Jumma people. Rather, immediately following the independence of Bangladesh in early 1972 the CHT underwent militarization.
    When the democratic movement to safeguard the national existence of the Jumma people was negotiated by the government with repressive measures through the civil and police administrations, including through militarization with the construction of three Army cantonments, it forced Manabendra Narayan Larma, then MP and hero of the CHT Jumma movement, to call for an armed struggle. An armed wing of PCJSS was formed under the name Shanti Bahini (Peace Force). Since 1979, the Government of Bangladesh has undertaken a drastic program to settle the Bengali population from other districts of Bangladesh to CHT so they would outnumber the Jumma people, and to use them as human shields for the protection of Army personnel.

    Iz it becuz Pakistan and Bangladesh are good freinds of China and are joining OBOR?
    Chicom Hypocrisy!!!

    hehehehe

    • Replies: @denk
  382. @TT

    You got good knowledge of how things work in Singapore. And the organised crime scene here. Personally i like traids as they were they were formed to evict the manchus. A sort of brotherhood. As long as human biology is what it is, the mannerbund will be eternal.

    • Replies: @TT
  383. denk says:
    @Malla

    LOL,

    ME no chicom,

    just that I hold India to a higher standard, what with all that jazz
    about ‘the world’s largest democracy’,

    hhhh

    • Replies: @Malla
  384. denk says:
    @Malla

    No but post Nixon, every prez sez Indians are ‘our kind of guys’

    meaning fukusI[ndia] are one big happy tefloned family,

    nuthin sticks !

    hhhhh

    • Replies: @Malla
  385. Malla says:

    Hahahaha this is funny
    This is denk’s own link

    http://www.ilaam.net/Intl/IndiaTerrorist.html

    India has a long record of Anti-Americanism. On May 18, 1999, The Indian Express reported that Mr. Fernandes, the Defense Minister, organized and led a meeting with the Ambassadors from Red China, Cuba, Russia, Yugoslavia, Libya, and Iraq to discuss setting up a security alliance “to stop the U.S.”

    India votes against the United States at the United Nations more often than any country except Cuba. It had a long term friendship with the former Soviet Union and supported its invasion of Afghanistan.

    Hahahah fukusi[ndia] is a Chinese scam.

    • Replies: @denk
  386. denk says:
    @Malla

    WMM my ass !

    hundreds or even thousands of Chinese workers are just like a drop in that Indian ocean, !

    hhhhh

    You should visit Fiji for example,
    [tip of an iceberg]

    The Indian tsunami got so bad the native Fijians had to BAN further Indian WMM lest they became minorities in their own land, may be they already are !

    The Fijians got whacked by the “international communities’, read fukusI, for ‘unacceptable racial discrimination against Indian tsunami’, just like what they’r dissing out to Myanmar to day.

    WMM is our prerogative, do as I say, not what I do,
    sez fukusI

    hhhhh

    Or YOU CAN try Sg,
    wherever you go, you’d bump into Indian WMM, left , right and centre.

    Whiteys who mourn about white genocide ain seen nuthin yet,

    hhhhhh

    • Replies: @Malla
  387. denk says:
    @TT

    I feel your pain.

    No need to disappear, just moderate you output,

    When I was younger and very gungho, I often did real time debate , even overnight.

    Such indulgence are taking its toll on me, eyes are failing and my day job is demanding,

    These days moderate my post to at most two sessions a day when I got the time, seldom do real time unless Im free and aint going anywhere like today ;-)

    Not need to quit,
    just take it easy and post whenever you find the time and feel like doing it.

    • Replies: @denk
  388. Malla says:
    @denk

    just that I hold India to a higher standard,

    You need not. We are folk tongued Indians remember. Need to hold your Pakistani friends to higher standards. They are paragons of truthfulness and kindness.

    hehehehe

    From link provided by you earlier

    https://www.sott.net/article/359163-The-Truth-Perspective-Weapons-of-Mass-Migration-Interview-with-Michael-Springmann-on-Europes-Migrant-Crisis

    Daesh or whatever you want to call them, but it’s the same crowd of fanatical Muslims that the Americans, Saudis and Pakistanis had recruited, trained and supported all these years.

    So you Pak buddies have been on Murrikka’s lap recruiting ‘Warriors of Islam’ for Zio- Murrica’s use.
    But Pak is your best friend now.

    Check out the lovin in between Paks and Chins. Check from 0.24 seconds (English part out of Urdu) where the Pak leader narates his love for the Chinese Leadership in impeccable English (LOL) in front of his embarrassed aides.
    ‘Our freindship higher than the Himalayas
    Deeper than the deepest Sea in the World
    And Sweetest and Sweeter than Honey’

    Tears rolled down my eyes when I listened to this. What love, what friendship!!
    Birds of a feather flock……
    hehehehe

  389. Malla says:
    @denk

    You should visit Fiji for example

    I could not even tho I had a chance. I got on a flight to Fiji, but I guess, I got on wrong flight and I ended up in Taiwan. I went searching for native Taiwanese, found only Han and more Han and only Han in Taipei.

    hehehehehe

    WMM my ass !

    Wooo, were you stuck in migrant camp in Europe by mistake? Were you unfortunate victim there? Must have been a horrible experience, no wonder you are so emotionally scared.

    hehehehehe

    hundreds or even thousands of Chinese workers are just like a drop in that Indian ocean, !

    And already, the Indians cannot stand the Chinese workers?

    hehehehehe

  390. Malla says:
    @denk

    But they support us so much that Western media talk about evul Apartheid, Evul Rhodesia (load of b.s.) but keep quite about Nagaland and Mizoram? And even before Nixon, world media keep quite about Nagaland and Mizoram? Media also keep quite about Bangladesh’s Chittaging Hill tract people (who are similar to nagas in looks and culture). How is that possible?
    Indians and Bangladeshis are more Anglo than Rhodesians and Afrikaners? How iz dat more possible?

    hehehehehe

  391. denk says:
    @Malla

    did I post that link ?

    LOL,

    Nixon, Kissinger, Indira Ghandi blah blah….

    Malla you’r so yesterday !

    A sample of some recent headlines…..

    Trump Discovers ‘Indo-Pacific’ on Asia Tour in Boost for India
    [make way China, Asia = Indo, hhhhhhh]

    Modi’s enthusiastic bear hug beats Trump’s handshake

    Donald Trump’s quotes on India: Narendra Modi is a great man, I am a fan of Hindus

    President Obama and India’s Modi Forge an Unlikely Friendship

    Hillary supported export of nuke technology to India after Clinton Foundation got cash infusion from Indian politician – and it wasn’t even his own money!

    Hillary Clinton as next US president will be good news for India

    Kirchick: In India, they’re missing George W. Bush – NY Daily …
    Former president George Bush came to India last month in what marked his first overseas visit since leaving office in January – and was very warmly received.

    Manmohan to Bush: people of India love you

    tip of an iceberg !

    Indian are so anti fukus , the murkkans must be grade A masochists

    buahahahaha

    thats all folks !

  392. denk says:
    @denk

    In case you havent notice,

    dont do real time with Malla,

    the guy is obsessed, like you say, we need some quality time for ourself

    hhhhhh

    thats all folks,

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @TT
  393. Malla says:
    @denk

    dont do real time with Malla,

    the guy is obsessed,

    Typical standard response when difficult questions asked. LOL.

    Obsession with the truth is not a bad quality, Denk. Ask Confucius scholar.

    hehehehe

    thats all folks,

    Translation: Too many difficult questions asked. Am bailing out.

    hehehehehe

    • Replies: @denk
  394. TT says:
    @Third world nationalist

    Secret societies are prevalent in older time like 1950′s-80. Now its more sophisticated syndicate. If you are not with ass, you are against ass… gangster is like George Bush. So either you join one to bully or get bullied …

    The police has concluded its better to be the biggest organized gang so all gangs have to obey and toe their line to keep society safe, instead of playing cat & mouse. Only criminal know criminal mind.

    No one asks protection money now. 20yrs ago I personally heard one woman shopkeeper actually mocked a gangster asking for money. If she complaint, Police will beat up the gang’s boss of that area and have him guaranteed the safety of complainants. Of course the boss know how to deal with that culprit that hurt his ass sorely. How efficient.

    But wonder why illegal prostitution is flourishing in such strict law enforcement Spore? LKY told, we could but shouldn’t, clamp down prostitution. Otherwise our women will be harmed by many sailors on R&R (like Jpn Okinawa). No complaint, no raid.

    So you hardly find any woman there forced into prostitution by organized gangs like in the West or causing public nuisance. The pimp boss worry more than anyone for his business. Any complaint will land him in jail and lost his lucrative business.

    School bully and gang infiltration? I heard now all Spore school discipline masters are make volunteer uniform police, no asshole want to mess up with the biggest gang.

    What a genius to come out with all such systems-Self regulated controlled crimes.

    • Replies: @Malla
  395. TT says:
    @denk

    That’s rt. Mallas isnt a student cum worker as he said. He is a Pro, 24/7 with voracious capacity.

    Malla, how did you manage to cramp so much info into your brain, and find time to debate a seasoned Pro like Denk(he even kept template to refute fukus), while still can cope with study & work?

    Im retiree enjoying free time traveling and residing somewhere hidden, still find it demanding… and eyes are blurring and tearing recently.

    But its addictive to read you guys and many good commenters interesting yet funny comments. That’s only thing attract me to unz. Got to offline a while to rest. Thks denk for encouragement.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  396. TT says:
    @Malla

    Check out the crime ratings websites link. Don’t worry, Indians will overwhelm these criminals very soon, Anglo or not. They aren’t aware of Indian power of real criminal until they see it, and make the untouchable lower caste in US.

    • Replies: @Malla
  397. TT says:
    @Malla

    Why does denk waste time writing posts? Denk should just post above post on all Unz pages and throughout the Internet and we will understand. We will get the message. He can save his time and efforts.

    LoL. That’s really a good one. You have beaten denk, Pro since 1998. If all Chinese & Indians are like you both, China & India can be real BaBa brothers.

  398. TT says:
    @denk

    No wonder China has such a negative image in the world today..
    fukusi rumour mills have the field all to themselves !

    Its left to old men like us who couldnt stand all the B.S. and take it up on ourself to do something about it .
    YOu’r right, what a thankless job. !

    If only CCP would give me one dollar for every post I wrote since 1999,

    May be i will change to new handle called Chicom troll. Then no need to defense myself anymore.

    Xi, Putin, Kim, Assad, Aungsan,..haven’t paid even 1cent for all my hardwork. My report used to worth more than US$25k. They should at least reimburse my data cost, or grant me free citizenship to travel freely.

    Indians are very diligent to write obvious distorted propaganda on China everywhere, even Spore Straits Times and west msm published such junks.

    Well i need some rest now. You strive on with coy Malla cheering for you, since 1999.

    • Replies: @denk
  399. Malla says:
    @TT

    Wow, that is really smart. Smart moves to keep down crime.

  400. Malla says:
    @TT

    Malla, how did you manage to cramp so much info into your brain, and find time to debate a seasoned Pro like Denk(he even kept template to refute fukus), while still can cope with study & work?

    Fortunately my job gives me a lot of free time. I am a specialist in some technologies/ complicated machines (I cannot specify on Unz), very very few people in India are specialized in this technology (I studied in Europe) and am hired by a multinational European company. I am mostly needed in time of troubleshooting technical/software problems and presentation to clients on the technologies (if dumb sales team gets hard technical questions, dumb client manager cannot understand and have to be explained like kid). But such things happen only 3 to 4 times a week on average, some weeks I am totally free. So I get a lot of free time in my job and get bored. Am in office with laptop. So I am getting paid to type on Unz and debating denk.

    • Replies: @TT
  401. denk says:
    @Malla

    You ingrate !
    I aint got all day for this, do you know whats CNY ?

    恭喜发财

    hhhhh

    You want the truth ?
    this is the truth.

    Modi/Israel love fest…..

    Despite Recent Setbacks, India-Israel Ties Have Never Been Stronger

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/despite-recent-setbacks-india-israel-ties-have-never_us_5a51485de4b0f9b24bf317f1

    fukusI[ndia]

    QED

    hhhhh

    • Replies: @Malla
  402. denk says:
    @TT

    no need to entertain Malla , whenever you feel bored, just disengage.

    The guy is obsessed, he’ll grab some sands even when falling down ;-)

    If you humor him you wont have any quality time for yourself,

    hhhhh

    • LOL: TT
  403. TT says:
    @Malla

    What a good job. So you get to research much stories to refute us with your big notebk and broadband while i had to base on old memory typing on small cell phone.

    But i prefer freedom to travel widely, while busy, every project and people i met, i learned. Life is short, live meaningfully, go for what you really love while still young… and die without regrets.

    Fly like a bird, with wings as burden.

    • Replies: @Malla
  404. Malla says:
    @denk

    Modi/Israel love fest…..

    Despite Recent Setbacks, India-Israel Ties Have Never Been Stronger

    Check post 237, I never denied it.

    Also check post 326 about prosperous and happy marriage between long lost soulmatey.

    恭喜发财

    Happy New Year to you, Denk. May New Year bring Prosperity and Happiness to you and loved ones.

  405. Malla says:
    @TT

    恭喜发财 TT

    May New Year bring Prosperity and Happiness to you and loved ones.

  406. Malla says:
    @TT

    No I meant, I have lived in many European countries including Britain, in all White towns. Crime is nearly non existent. If you go to areas with more ‘diversity’, you get crime.

  407. Malla says:
    @TT

    But i prefer freedom to travel widely, while busy, every project and people i met, i learned. Life is short, live meaningfully, go for what you really love while still young… and die without regrets.

    Fly like a bird, with wings as burden.

    Thanks for the wise words TT, I will think about it.
    Cheers.

  408. myself says:
    @Malla

    Mongolians and Manchurians = Vikings
    Japanese = Teutons
    Han Chinese = Roman-Macedonians
    Koreans = Gauls and Briton Celts
    Vietnamese = Phoenicians
    South East Asians = Aztecs-Incas
    Aboriginals = Sub Saharans

  409. myself says:
    @The Seneca Effect

    You know, I have lived in China, mostly in the birthplace of the Han racial identity – the Central Plain. This is the region, about the size of the combined American north-east and north-west Europe, which is north of the Yangtzi river. You know, Beijing etc.

    There, I met many other wai-guo-ren (broadly, “foreigners”). Americans, Russians, Scandinavians, Poles, Brits, Frenchmen, Germans, Italians, Scandinavians plus of course lots of Koreans and even some Japanese, as well as Israelis, Latin Americans – you get the gist.

    All these groups THOUGHT they saw some of their traits in the Han – anything from business pioneer ethos (said Americans), love of motherland (said by Russians), family orientation (remarked upon by Latin Americans), and so forth.

    Naturally, Koreans and Japanese have actual similarity to Han. That’s too obvious.

    But indeed the most consistent remarks, at least as voiced by Whites, about broad similarity between themselves and the Han were expressed by . . . the Germans.

    • Replies: @myself
  410. myself says:
    @myself

    To be fair, foreigners also saw in the Han many bad traits they disliked in themselves.

    Americans – “Han have limitless greed! Fucking cowboy capitalists without rules!”
    Russians – “Han actively and enthusiastically support totalitarianism!”
    Brits – “Han are arrogant”
    Japanese – “Han are unreasonable nationalists”
    Germans – “Han are much too obedient, like robots”

    Hmm. I’d say all these people were projecting.

  411. As smart and successful immigrants to be found in many countries, Chinese and Jews have often been compared, but there are many key differences between them. Unlike Jews, Chinese are not dominant in media, education, government or banking in their host countries. Native children are not taught to despise themselves for having wronged the Chinese, and Chinese don’t produce or host television or radio shows that mock the locals.

    This is a good point that can never be overemphasized. I used to think that hostility towards the Jews was nothing more than envy. The Jews are smart and have their act together. Thus they are successful and therefor resented. I lived in SE Asia during part of the late 90′s and worked with and did business with many overseas Chinese. The overseas Chinese tend to be entrepreneurs, are content to make lots of money, and by and large do not attempt to influence the politics and culture of their host countries. I used to think the Jews were a lot like the overseas Chinese in this regard.

    Unfortunately, they are not. Instead of focusing on technology and entrepreneurship, they instead go into fields such as academics, media, politics, and political punditry. They are not content with merely being successful in business (if they did, there would be no problem as Americans respect success). Rather, they seek to have political and culture influence in the host societies they live in, and I think this is the REAL reason why they are resented.

    If the Jews were to be like the Overseas Chinese, there would be no problem. Despite occasional riots in Indonesia (Indonesians “run amok” about every 30 years or so), there is no overseas Chinese equivalent to antisemitism. This fact alone suggests that it is not mere envy that drives antisemitism.

    • Replies: @myself
  412. I was avoiding this discussion for obvious reasons — I am going to focus on one advance, the pushing of Jesus in order to effect policy by the west.

    http://royalheritagecruise.com/Vietnam/Vietnam-Facts/vietnam-religions.html

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/asia/rsv/rsv10.htm

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/asia/rsv/rsv11.htm

    The numbers indicate that in South Vietnam two groups preached about Christ: Catholics and protestants.

    The total percentage of protestants: 1%

    The total percentage of Catholics: 5.6 – 7%

    The press of or for a Jewish anything met with little success and more importantly, was not a serious factor during the cold war. The most contentious internal battles were not between the Jew pushers and the rest of the population, but rather among the various nonjewish related belief systems indigenous to Asia. Note: christianity requires no belief in the Old Testament rendering of being Jewish.

    92% of the population if my read of the stats is correct had no affiliation with Christ, nor were they required to do for support. It’s a very strange twist given that North Vietnam commenced to slaughter the entire population North of South in an attempt to kill any religious belief system at all. Whatever the consequences from North Vietnam purging it is the fault of Christ believers or Jews. Contrary to the authors suggestion.

  413. Rdm says:
    @AaronB

    Your view on Chinese is partially true and others are diametrically opposite.

    Don’t lump Chinese in South East Asia and Chinese from mainland together.

    Chinese in SEA (Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, ….) have different manners albeit follow the traditional Chinese value, i.e., respect elderly, work ethics, etc etc etc.

    What seems to be different then?

    Chinese in SEA are more open with their outlook and views. Chinese from mainland are still clannish and stick to their mainland Chinese. They don’t stick with Chinese from SEA. You won’t find two Chinese from mainland and HongKong together. The only time you’d see them together is one migrated to HongKong or Singapore in their late stage, and then still stick with their mainland Chinese. That’s when you think all Chinese stick. Not at all.

  414. Rdm says:
    @Anon

    That’s very simple. The desire, innate or indoctrinated, to escape to anything but Chinese is very common among Chinese women.

    That’s why you see many Chinese women with Western men.

    Western men can be bald, lanky, socially awkward, ultra racists, white supremacist, but Chinese women (all Asian women) will stick to those losers like a moth to a flame.

    1. Richard Spencer
    2. Derb

    If you google it, all White supremacists once had or still have Asian women as their partners. This works for both genders.

    White supremacist denigrate anything but Whites, but can’t get White women.
    Asian women denigrate anything Chinese, but can’t manage to get rid of their DNA.

  415. myself says:
    @Abelard Lindsey

    Overseas Chinese do engage in much commercial banking, but are almost never interested in control of public policy regarding such activities. Their interest is profit, nothing more.

    They also engage in owning media outlets and studios – again as profitable ventures, not as propaganda vehicles.

    For the more intellectual members of their people, there is academe, where they have no political agenda, only purely professional ones (in other words to research and teach).

    To be fair, the Overseas Chinese do engage in defensive propaganda, mostly to counter blatantly anti-Chinese propaganda that they feel is directed at their community. But as far as trying to shape society, or god forbid “improve” it? They know enough to leave that to the locals.

    It seems the Overseas Chinese are very careful not to overstep their bounds. They know they are outsiders, so they keep quiet, keep their heads down, and get on with things.

  416. @The Wobbly Guy

    Maybe that’s why Xi Jinping is focusing on corruption and harmony – he’s trying to rebuild an ethical culture which had been lost.

    He’s using it as a pretext to elevate himself to absolute power, much like Mao. This card-carrying member of the apparat has a family fortune estimated to be in the hundreds of millions of dollars, no doubt garnered through less than honest means. He’s persecuting alleged corruption among his rivals in order to replace them with his men. That will help him create a government in harmony with anything he wants to do.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  417. @Johann Ricke

    And what do you think “he wants to do”. Perhaps he would prefer to be honoured in memory by comparison with Confucius rather than China’s first and second emperors.

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