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Gemma and Lasikar at Their Wedding

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Imagine all the people living for today
Imagine there’s no countries.
It isn’t hard to do.
Nothing to kill or die for,
And no religion too.
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace.
You may say I’m a dreamer,
But I’m not the only one.
I hope some day you’ll join us,
And the world will be as one.

If you like these lyrics, you’re most likely to be young, progressive and/or a Westerner. A video of the song begins with John and Yoko walking through a misty woods towards an elegant mansion. Above the door, there’s a sign, “THERE IS NO HERE,” a clear reference to Thomas More’s Utopia, which literally means “no place.” Whereas More was being satirical, Lennon sang “Imagine” quite earnestly, and his admirers see it as an ideal. Considering how things are going in the West, they feel closer to this goal of having no countries than ever. Borders are bad, and nationalism is just another word for Fascism, they believe.

Ensconced in his sumptuous TittenhurstPark estate, Lennon crooned, “Imagine no possessions. I wonder if you can.” No, I can’t, John. Mi casa es tu casa is just a figure of speech, amigo. Interviewed by National Public Radio in 2006, Jimmy Carter actually claimed, “And of course, as you know, in many countries around the world—my wife and I have visited about 125 countries—you hear John Lennon’s song ‘Imagine’ used almost equally with national anthems.”

There is a 2004 film, It’ll Never Last, that’s about three British women with foreign husbands. Aristocratic Alexandra Tolstoy fell in love with a Muslim horseman while on a ten-month trip along the Silk Road. After the wedding, she moved into his grim, Soviet-era apartment on the outskirts of Tashkent, Uzbekistan.

Patricia from Belfast married Tiziano and moved to Rimini, Italy.

Oxford-graduate Gemma Burford married a Massai warrior and moved into a rural house without running water or electricity in Tanzania.

If differences between countries were merely cosmetic and trivial, for we’re all the same, after all, these women should have been able to adjust well enough to their new environments, but none of these marriages lasted, and the first one to call it quit, even before the film ended, was Patricia. One might think that this is rather surprising, for she didn’t move into that foreign a culture, but of course all societies are alien to any other, and that’s why we have 196 countries, with each subdivided even further. Just as Idaho is not Mississippi, your average Bavarian wouldn’t want to move to Saxony.

Language isn’t just communication but a shared heritage, so if you can’t quite master a new tongue, you don’t quite belong in that community. At her wedding, Patricia pronounced anello [ring] as agnello [lamb], which cracked up the entire church, then at home, Tiziano started to carp about her cooking, and after dinner, he would go to his mama’s house for coffee and only return around 11.

Patricia had become drawn to Italians through the movies, “If I watched a foreign film or something, I liked the tall, dark man with the dark eyes, like Italian people. I just liked someone who was different from myself.” After the breakup, she reflected, “When I look at my wedding video, I just think I was so stupid, so very stupid. So naive.”

Tolstoy could talk to her man in Russian, and she swooned over his boldness, fearlessness and how he rode, so erect and shirtless, on a mare. Shamil also knew Alexandra was destined for him, “For example, I can tell straight away if a horse is right for me.” Bucking the Uzbek just five years later, this perfect horse is now shacked up with Sergei Pugachev, a Russian tycoon. They spend most of their time on the French Riviera.

Tolstoy claims that Putin wants to kill both her and Pugachev, while the Russian government has charged the former banker and shipyard owner with embezzlement. Sheltering Pugachev, France won’t turn him over, however, just as Russia won’t let Uncle Sam snatch Edward Snowden. Countries will always disagree, of course. Nine men, ten opinions. Before the Chinese dissident Liu Xiabo died in custody, Germany had offered him asylum.

Gemma Burford and her Masai beau, Lesikar, fell in love without even a common language, and there were other obstacles, such as the Masai tradition of polygamy. Filmed with several flies buzzing or landing on his face, Lesikar’s dad explained, “I spoke with Gemma’s parents. I said to them I would only agree to the marriage if Gemma would accept the possibility of Lesikar taking another wife.”

For his part, Lesikar was convinced he had found a right mate, “Finding a good wife is as hard as finding good cattle. It’s a matter of luck.”

Gemma’s affable dad recounted his first visit to Tanzania, “That trip was an eye opener. Up to the village, it was horrific, to be honest.” Then, “Most countries, you can talk about things, and people will know what you’re talking about, but there, of course, there was very little you could talk about that you had a common knowledge of, let alone a common interest.”

Still, Mr. Burford came round to embracing his son-in-law, thanks in part to Lesikar’s visit to England, “When he came over, he came dressed as a Masai warrior, with his blankets and his shoes, which are made out of rubber tires, and he also had his great, big 14-inch knife that he had at his side.

“Once he settled in at home, he was fine. The problem comes in trying to feed him. He only eats beef and lamb or goat. They don’t eat anything else. They eat vegetables. They don’t eat any sweet things. They don’t have cakes or anything.


“We were quite surprised at how quickly he picked up things, how bright he was. The thing that strikes you with Lesikar is his smile. The room lights up when Lesikar smiles. Everyone falls for that. He really is a very nice chap, but also very intelligent, we’re beginning to find.”

Lesikar, “The things I missed most were my cows and my family. I didn’t like the food. Although my mother-in-law tried very, very hard to make it tasty, the meat tasted like paper.”

Lesikar was glad to return to his Masai ways, with Gemma joining him. Without resolving the polygamy issue, they wedded after she got pregnant. There is a scene of her doing laundry outside, using a plastic tub, “Yeah, I do feel at home here. I don’t feel as at home here as I want to. I think the more I live here, the more I will feel at home here […] A lot of people say it all the time, and even here, they say, ‘Ah, you’ll never cope, you’ll never cope.’ Just watch me. OK, I’ll put you on the guest list for our silver wedding, God willing.”

Gemma’s dad had a concern, “I think the one thing with the difference in culture is the worry that the women are regarded, not inferior, but they have their jobs, and the men have their jobs, and the women’s jobs are all the manual work, and the men’s job is thinking and drinking, and I can’t see Gemma settling for that.”

After giving birth to a daughter, Gemma had to confront the issue of female circumcision, “At the moment, there is no other way… for a girl to become a woman. They believe you can’t have a healthy child if you haven’t been circumcised.”

They moved to Arusha, a city of 400,000, and founded a safari business, but the marriage collapsed in 2010, with Lesikar returning to his family and cows. Gemma wrote in 2017, “Lesikar has moved on and had more children, although he hasn’t quite equalled his father’s record yet.” In the film, Lesikar stated, “I am one of nineteen children. Sorry, I mean seventeen.”

Each of us is already a nationalist via our infinity of affinities. Just as Lesikar belongs to the Masai nation, Gemma has reverted to being an English woman, for she has moved back to the UK with her two daughters.

By marrying and moving into another culture, the women of It’ll Never Last tried their best to join another nation, and their failure to do so illustrates, rather gloriously, that mankind is still diverse. Our differences don’t just reflect our ideals but define our autonomy.

Far from promising peace, those who sing of no countries are really threatening us all with unspeakable violence, psychic and physical.

An empire, by nature, must trample on nationhood, even its own, for it presents the empire’s ambitions as the nation’s necessities, for how else can you get Americans, for example, to go die and fight in Afghanistan or Iraq? Though citing love of nation constantly, our Washington rulers are essentially anti-American, and that’s why a genuine nationalist like Edward Snowden must flee to Russia.

Nationalism is simply the love of one’s language, culture, history and heritage, one’s very identity in short, but as wielded by an empire, nationalism becomes a murderous tool to violate one nation after another. The American empire is destroying the American nation.

Linh Dinh’s Postcards from the End of America has just been released by Seven Stories Press. He maintains an active photo blog.

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  1. Dan Hayes says:


    Good point about egregious John Lennon and his spaced-out partner Yoko.

    When JL was assassinated I mentioned to a class that the same Beatles who preached forbearance and non-acquisitiveness broke up over petty jealousies and money squabbles. The class was devastated – for my callousness toward their premier modern day saint!

    Your article covered a lot of ground and made many good points- very much appreciated

    • Replies: @Che Guava
    , @restless94110
  2. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The West will shrivel up and die as a direct result of the decisions from its women.

  3. No need to go to Africa to have sex with Negroes.

    Africa is coming to Europe. It will be Afrope.

  4. Alden says:

    yeah, I bet Tiziano went over to his Mama’s for coffee after dinner. He was visiting his girl friend or boyfriend.

  5. Nationalism is wrong, it is racism, that leads to fascism and gas chambers.

  6. Che Guava says:
    @Dan Hayes

    I like the article, Linh particularly the last sentence and the anti-mixmaster world sentence in general. ‘There is no here’ is asinine.

    I prefer Brett Ellis, ‘Disappear here.’

    Ono may be a drip, but some of her pre-Lennon art is very good, I am not talking about Cut Piece, but sculpture and her mail art, among others.

    A few of her early seventies tracks, too.
    Arguably, parts of her more recent ‘dance’ outing.

    It is funny, she was very much disliked in Japan (thinking being not ‘she broke up the Beatles’ but ‘if Lennon had to marry a Japanese woman, why did he not have the good taste to avoid a spoilt brat drama queen with a couple of fake suicide attempts behind her?’)

    Don’t forget, she was born with a set of golden chopsticks, i.e, very wealthy, which is why she could afford to live as she did before she met Lennon. Never a day of work.

    That has all changed, with her John Lennon museum in Saitama and all, media are non-stop positive nowadays.

    His relationship with her, a little sick, vis. the photo of him naked in foetal pose in front of clothed and unbent Ono.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
  7. Sean says:

    Nationalism is simply the love of one’s language, culture, history and heritage, one’s very identity in short, but as wielded by an empire, nationalism becomes a murderous tool to violate one nation after another. The American empire is destroying the American nation.

    You cannot have nationalism without nation states and nation-states raison d’etre is conflict with each other.

    This crazy old world has got on rather well with all the scarcity and resultant wars and selfishness and religious or national myths . It wont last long with peace (because there is) plenty . Technology powerful enough to give lifestyles even beyond John Lennon’s imaginings to the Western population. I speak of the Singularity. When there is nothing to fight about, there will soon be nothing, or no one, at all. Progress is greasing the skids toward humanity’s tomb.

    • Replies: @Saxon
  8. Shit, I agree with you (mostly) about something.

    You gonna dox me again? Not that it matters. I’m retired and can’t be blacklisted. Nor can I be easily found. Sold out everything in retirement and virtually vanished from recorded existence.

    Religion is also part of the deal. Religion is the oral history of our fathers and their fathers. It is the story of where we come from.

    Are you aware that Prez Trump ran as an opponent of American empire and pointless intrusion into other nations?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  9. Hey amigo, the current ethos is, “Your stuff for me, but not for thee.” The sooner you get that, the sooner we will all live in peace.

    • Replies: @englishmike
  10. unit472 says:

    Might the problem be that Western women do not easily adjust to living in less ‘advanced’ nations. I say that because there do seem to be a lot of women who marry Western men and adapt quite successfully to living in the US or Europe.

    • Replies: @Michelle
  11. “Imagine no possessions”
    You can only completely disdain materialism if you are absurdly rich. Lennon had a refrigerated room for his fur coats. I’ve only seen the attitude of “wouldn’t it be great if we could live without money” among the rich. It’s especially common in upper middle class students. The most anti-materialist religion – Buddhism – came from a bored prince.

    “Imagine there’s no countries”
    I’m imagining it, John, and it’s pretty horrific. Borders are the last thing protecting countries from being a mush of multiculturalist capitalist slop… protecting us from selling our inheritance for a globalist mess of pottage. Starbucks and Sharia. This ‘no countries’ idea can only come from a transnational elite. It can only be believed by natives who are deracinated from their own culture, or newcomers who are escaping some shithole.

    • Agree: anarchyst, Che Guava
    • Replies: @Oleaginous Outrager
  12. johnd [AKA "johnlee"] says:

    You are absolutely dead on with this essay. I point out to “nationalist” friends who like this song and then they change their minds… “Imagine no country” or “nothing to die for”? I may as well ignore my chain of ancestry … “god willing!”

  13. Saxon says:

    It doesn’t matter if you don’t want to fight. It matters if your enemy does and most of the enemies being flooded into Europe now do, especially the Islamic type. In any case, the threat posed by racial mixing that destroys peoples thus nations (as in the dumb woman who brought her halfbreeds back to the UK in the doco mentioned in the article) will sooner or later be seen as part of an enemy invasion.

    Conflict will happen regardless, as Vladimir Putin has pointed out–war is not decreasing.

    • Replies: @Sean
  14. Jason Liu says:

    Are women opportunistic, xenophilic outbreeders? The PUAs are right again!

    • Replies: @Saxon
    , @Che Guava
  15. @jilles dykstra

    Nationalism is wrong, it is racism, that leads to fascism and gas chambers.

    Nationalism may have its time and place, but at some point it becomes obsolete.

    Nationalism, probably a reaction to imperialism and other threats, certainly can lead to evil ideas and acts, but the blame is shared by all actors.

    Greedy, murderous varieties of corporatist capitalism can also lead to huge lies and propaganda such as the myths about gas chambers, while “our” side is claimed to be lily white and messengers from G-d.

    Here’s a better description of how it works.

    “Blame others for your own sins.”

    J. V. Stalin, Anarchism Or Socialism ? December, 1906 — January, 1907

    • Agree: Sowhat
    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  16. Brabantian says: • Website

    Hello Linh Dinh, enjoy your writing … you speak quite of the ‘real Americans’ whom I also was able to get to know a bit, in my time there

    But one thing about which you err above – what every government knows is a hoax – ‘Edward Snowden’ is in fact a known CIA fraud run by intel agencies, as Vladimir Putin himself hints … You will see this clearly if you look at the European intel agency report on the Snowden fraud

    For example, laughably, the official story is that Edward Snowden first ‘leaked’ to Bush VP Dick Cheney’s friend & biographer at the Washington Post, anti-9-11-truth Bart Gellman … of course no real ‘dissident’ would ‘leak’ to Dick Cheney’s friend at a flagship CIA newspaper … And then he was pumped by CIA rags NY Times & UK Guardian, global kings of Fake News & CIA propaganda

    There was little truly new in Snowden ‘revelations’, most of it known in essence years earlier, a 2008 book even – the USA is spying on everyone, all the big internet tools have ‘back doors’ for the CIA-NSA, etc … Snowden is partly fostering international black-mail, partly de-legitimising real dissidents who don’t have corp media promotion, partly a ‘rat trap’ to destroy real dissidents who contact Greenwald

    The intel agency report on the Snowden – Greenwald frauds:

    Glenn Greenwald & Jimmy Wales of the CIA’s Wikipedia, both were p-rnography sellers before their current gigs, gay p-rn in Greenwald’s case … a business where the CIA recruits its shills

    Note that Glenn Greenwald, is the employee in turn of 3 billionaire families, Bill Gates, the Rothschilds & now Pierre Omidyar, a CIA billionaire involved in Ukraine’s civil war, who certainly is not interested in helping ‘dissidents’ … … Imagine what Ron Unz could do with \$50 million for ‘great brave journalism’, like Omidyar gave to Greenwald, who produces very little except ‘me too’ meanderings, despite all that dosh

    Snowden & ‘constitutional lawyer’ Greenwald & ‘not really living at Ecuador Embassy’ Julian Assange (who was admitted to be a CIA fraud by both Zbigniew Brzezinski & Israel’s Netanyahu) – these guys not only all oppose 9/11 truth, but also, laughably refuse to discuss the USA Virginia federal judge court corruption about which they have specific files … the wide exposure of which would instantly make the extraditions of Snowden & Assange impossible

    Snowden & Assange are in place to help identify & kill real dissidents duped into contacting Snowman’s and Assange’s media pumpers like Glenn Greenwald … A leaker, Peter W Smith, recently turned up choked to death with a bag over his head, after ‘leaking’ to Wikileaks … Wikileaks claims of course they don’t have any files from him

    Julian Assange has had Rothschild lawyers & Snowden & family CIA-tied lawyers, Plato Cacheris, Bruce Fein, who never represent real dissidents etc etc

    The fake ‘dissident hero’ is one of the CIA’s best operations, with few questioning a ‘hero’ offered up to them by the CIA’s own media … we are all so ‘eager’ to heroes we can fall for one supplied by the governments themselves

  17. Nationalism is simply the love of one’s language, culture, history and heritage, one’s very identity in short, but as wielded by an empire, nationalism becomes a murderous tool to violate one nation after another. The American empire is destroying the American nation.

    This is a gold mine as a starting point for discussion, but unfortunately, I hafta run. Dang!

    The last sentence is correct, but I’m not convinced of the validity of the first phrase of the first sentence. Nationalism can arise from a number of causes, and as you note, can degenerate or be manipulated into a murderous tool as we can plainly see!

  18. Saxon says:
    @Jason Liu

    My view is that they are when their own men are conquered or when there is the illusion of such right now. After all in the tribal past they simply would have been taken by the other tribe if theirs lost. It’s not exactly a new evolutionary psychology angle of looking at it.

  19. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    How can a nation have ‘nationalism’ when its Congress allows millions of illegal aliens in each year and the EU opens its doors to millions of Africans, seeking the good life along with welfare benefits?

    Nations are being destroyed, but there is one that will reign supreme; the nation of Mammon.

  20. TG says:

    A nation is simply a family writ large. It is a group of people who have come together for common purpose, in a world that is often harsh and hostile.

    Imagine there are no families, only people. Would any government employee worry about a child with health or other issues the way that a parent would? Of course not. Remember what happened to the kids in Albanian orphanages… The family structure is not perfect, but without families to focus our efforts and charity, the world would be far worse.

    Nationality can also become toxic – as can anything good – but overall nationality is a positive force. It is the only known political structure that can take people of different classes and origins etc. and make them feel some degree of concern for each other. It makes people think about the long-term good of all, at least a moderate amount, instead of how-much-can-I-strip-mine-from-this-society-right-now-and-damn-everyone-else.

    A liberal friend of mine, commenting on how during WWII the Danes saved many Jews, complained that they did not do that out of some abstract sense of goodness, but because they considered Danish Jews to be Danes. Exactly.

    A nation whose borders – physical and cultural – have been erased, will be reduced to the level of a global commons. Nobody will sacrifice for it. Nobody will die for it. It will suffer from overuse and under-investment as do all such commons. People will not become globalist I-love-everyone idealists, if the nation dies then tribalism WILL take it’s place. And then you will have people living next to each other who feel that their neighbors of different ethnicity are the enemy, competitors for resources instead of compatriots and allies.

    The war against the nation state is a retrogression, and behind it are oligarchs whose motivation is simply gaining race-to-the-bottom wage rates, and the freedom to strip-mine nations of their assets without concern for the long-term consequences. We should not believe their fairy tales about universal peace etc. It’s all about cheap labor and easy short-term profits.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  21. Joe Hide says:

    As always, great article.
    When young and my peers were slumming with Beatles music, I just couldn’t get it. Their music seemed uninspiring and of poor quality. And this was when I was an uncultured, non-musical, rural hick (That had the ability to think independently).
    About most cross culture mating and marriages, you are probably correct. A shared belief and lifestyle system seems a priority in marriage.
    Keep up the great work Linh!

  22. Anonymous [AKA "Marcus M"] says:

    To simply define the nationalist is ‘one who wishes to be left alone, amongst his fellow countrymen and women, to live by their cultures and traditions’.

    It is the ‘inter’nationalist who wishes to destroy borders and turn the world’s multiple cultures into one, along with all the races into one. This, in turn, not only destroys many cultures and traditions (as dominating ones destroy) but also races.

    As a nationalist have I any desires on invading any other land and imposing my will upon them? No
    As a nationalist, have I any supremacist beliefs that my culture and race is superior to others? – No

    Ironically, if we want to get to the nitty gritty, it is the immigrants who are the real racists, who wish to destroy our cultures, traditions and race. It is they who are advocating white genocide of the European peoples.

    The concept of ‘nationalism’, we are told, is a relatively modern ideology. This couldn’t be more wrong. Any people, from any land, who have united together under their common culture and ancestry and defended against invading peoples ARE nationalists. We can go back to Greece, to Macedonia, to Phoenicia…..the list goes on and on.

    Nationalism IS NOT a reaction to imperialism or other threats. It is simply the collective choice of peoples, living in a certain land mass, who share common culture, history and ancestry.

  23. Avery says:

    { Though citing love of nation constantly, our Washington rulers are essentially anti-American, and that’s why a genuine nationalist like Edward Snowden must flee to Russia.}

    {Nationalism is simply the love of one’s language, culture, history and heritage, one’s very identity in short, but as wielded by an empire, nationalism becomes a murderous tool to violate one nation after another. The American empire is destroying the American nation.}

    THE best two paragraphs.
    And so true.

  24. anarchyst says:

    You bring up a good point about the Danes saving their jews as they considered them to be Danes, FIRST. This situation shows that there was a different mindset among jews who fully embraced Danish citizenship.
    Contrast that with the jews of today who consider themselves jews FIRST and then citizens of their respective countries.
    United States “foreign policy” is dictated by a cabal of jews who consider Israel FIRST and the United States secondary. One only has to notice how many jews with American citizenship volunteer for U S military service–almost NONE. These same jews have no problem volunteering themselves or their offspring for service in the IDF (Israel Defense Forces).
    Add to that, the forty or so congresscritters who hold dual citizenship with Israel. Dual loyalties never work, and are detrimental to their “host” country. If I had my way, anyone with dual citizenship would be prohibited from working in any governmental capacity. Those already working in government should be summarily dismissed from their positions and deported.
    The only way for jews to “redeem themselves” in the eyes of United States citizens is to shed their foreign entanglements with Israel and become Americans FIRST.
    THAT, my friends, will never happen…

    • Agree: Druid
  25. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Many good points well-made, but Mr. Dinh leaves out who drove the U.S. into 2 world wars and the “war on terrorism” and is pushing for WW III. That is serious omission.

    Masters of Deception

    Two world wars, for what and whom?

    MSM won’t contribute to that conversation, but I hoped for more from Mr. Dinh.

    • Replies: @Johann
  26. Dan Hayes says:
    @Che Guava


    Thanks for all the info on Lennon’s partner/cohort. Perhaps more than I ever wanted/needed to know, but nevertheless very sincerely appreciated.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  27. Feminine for Tolstoy is Tolstaya.

    Nationalism is simply the love of one’s language, culture, history and heritage,

    Nah, I don’t think so. ‘Nationalism’ has many definitions, but I don’t think this one fits. I’m pretty sure one can love one’s language, culture, history and heritage, while being utterly cosmopolitan. I don’t see the contradiction.

    • Agree: AP, Philip Owen
  28. Johann says:

    Once again Linh does an excellent job describing the current zeitgeist of the American Empire. Washington does indeed hate America and has done nothing but destroy young American lives along with others in its perpetual war mindset. Today one cannot avoid the blood thirsty war mongering of the ruling elite and its lying media in its efforts to trigger a war with Russia. I was of military age during the Vietnam War and could never understand the mantra that we were stopping communism in Vietnam while at the same time a bonafide communist state was ninety miles off our coast in Cuba. As far as John Lennon is concerned he was always a drugged out phony just like his buddy Sir Paul, a bunch a rich capitalists telling the peasants how to live.

    • Replies: @daniel le mouche
  29. Che Guava says:
    @Jason Liu

    Jason, what is a PUA?

    • Replies: @jim jones
  30. Do as I say, not as I do?

    There are 24 people listed as ‘columnists’ at

    Cockburn, Derbyshire, Dinh, Mercer, The Saker, Reed and Shamir definitely don’t live in the nations where they were born. Not sure about Lee, Arellano. Margolis lived for a long time and may still live outside the US where he was born.

  31. @jacques sheete

    Nationalism is simply that a group a people has a common culture.
    As the USA has no common culture, except moneycracy, moneycrazy, this is difficult to understand for USA citizens.
    Macron denies that a French culure exists, we, my wife and I, Dutch, are often in France.
    We know that French culture differs from Dutch culture.
    But Macron more and more makes it clear that he’s an idiot.
    The Dutch problem with immigrants, or children of, is that culturally they never became Dutch.
    We Dutch do not go on the streets with Turkish flags to support Erdogan, for us he’s just a far away crazy dictator.

    • Agree: L.K
    • Replies: @Joe Franklin
    , @Patricus
  32. @anony-mouse

    Shamir is a jew, I suppose he lived as a child in a jewish community, A Russian town, he now lives in a jewish community.
    The USA is not a nation, it is nation stew.

    • Replies: @anony-mouse
  33. jim jones says:
    @Che Guava

    Pick Up Artist, otherwise known as being red-pilled:


    • Replies: @Che Guava
  34. Biff says:

    What if you’re an American and you simply want to get away from empire, and your long time Thai wife of twenty years has helped you learn the language?

    Where is my nationalism? I must have put it somewhere?

    • Replies: @Linh Dinh
  35. Che Guava says:

    AFAIK, Margolis is a Canadian.

    Linh, for one, seems to have no choice, in any case he is American now, but I was asking directly and he was answering directly, the Viet state does not want him around.

    As for others on your list, sure, one or two are fakes, in some way. up to you to work it out. They are still writing interesting things.

    • Replies: @neutral
    , @anony-mouse
  36. neutral says:
    @Che Guava

    Whether the state of Vietnam wants him or not, that does not change that fact that his nationality is Vietnamese.

    • Replies: @Avery
  37. Linh Dinh says: • Website

    Hi Biff,

    If you’re living in Thailand, and your kids are half-Thai, then you should care very much about Thai society, culture and history, which I’m sure you already do. You are a Thai nationalist to the degree that you care about the Thai nation.


    • Replies: @Biff
    , @Bayan
  38. Che Guava says:
    @jim jones

    Thanks, though I cannot seeing the connection of ‘pick-up artist’ andr red pill.

    • Replies: @anon
  39. @jilles dykstra

    As the USA has no common culture

    US has a common culture, but you just don’t recognize it.

    The common culture is a federally entitled-by-law victim cult.

    In fact, the US’s victim culture is very similar to the state of Israel’s victim culture.

    The victim culture in the US has both a left and right ideology, the same duality as in Israel.

    The Left victim culture is dedicated to obtaining government entitlements for all the victims in the world. Left victim culture is concerned for all the people claiming to be oppressed by white-straight-Christian-males and white supremacy and Nazi.

    Some people refer to Left victim culture as social justice and liberalism.

    The Right victim culture is dedicated to obtaining government entitlements for Israel and Jews. Right victim culture is concerned for all the Jews claiming to be oppressed by Nazi and white supremacy.

    Some people refer to right victim culture as Zionism and neo-conservatism.

    Victim cult people comprise over 95% of the US voting population and over 85% of the Israeli voting population.

  40. Avery says:

    {….that does not change that fact that his nationality is Vietnamese.}

    Not sure about that.

    If Mr. Dinh is a naturalized U.S. citizen, then his nationality is American.
    I am a naturalized U.S. Citizen, and my passport says: “Nationality UNITED STATES OF AMERICA”. I.e. ‘American’.

    Mr. Dinh’s ancestry and/or ethnicity is Vietnamese,, but unless he is still a citizen of Socialist Republic of Vietnam, then his nationality is _not_ Vietnamese.

    • Agree: Talha, Che Guava
  41. AP says:

    Nationalism is simply the love of one’s language, culture, history and heritage, one’s very identity in short,

    One can, of course, love one’s own speech and people without being a nationalist.

    Your definition of nationalism is too broad and not very historical. One can love one’s ” language, culture, history and heritage” and not be a nationalist. Are tribal people who do these things nationalists? Are there, for example, Yanomano “nationalists” in the Brazilian jungle? Those pre-contact islanders off the coast of India who shoot arrows at planes – nationalists? In more modern times, a thoroughly ideological Bolshevik who likes his Russian language and his class-based mythology about his people’s history – nationalist?

    Nationalism was a modern liberal idea associated mostly with the empowerment and mobilization of the lower and middle classes, constituting the “nation,” worshiping themselves (their speech, history as constructed by their national historians, customs etc. ) above all else and overthrowing the traditional authorities – the Church and the aristocracy.

    • Replies: @Chuck
  42. Biff says:
    @Linh Dinh


    Actually my wife that was born and raised in Thailand is of Chinese descent. Her Grandparents on both sides, who were of merchant class that fled China during the Cultural Revolution. I guess their nationalism didn’t jibe with the changing political atmosphere of their time.
    Things happen that way sometimes.


  43. Michelle says:

    A guy I know married a Thai woman and brought her to live with him in chilly San Francisco. She drove him crazy because he could not get her to stop opening virus containing spam emails. If it was addressed to her, she reasoned, she had to open it. That marriage didn’t last a year.

    I think that the few white women who remained with their Indian husbands during the colonial and frontier days, didn’t have much of a different life than one spent in a log cabin. In fact, Indian life was communal so it was probably easier for a woman, white or red, than it was for a single woman living with her white husband and kids in the middle of the prairie.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  44. Boris N says:

    Sheltering Pugachev, France won’t turn him over, however, just as Russia won’t let Uncle Sam snatch Edward Snowden.

    No, it is not “just as”, because Russia does not give a shelter to Western crooked oligarchs who have stolen and embezzled Western money, while the West is most eager and prefers to give a shelter exactly to such a type of Russian crooked oligarchs who have been steeling and embezzling Russian money.

    • Agree: melanf
  45. Boris N says:

    Borders are bad, and nationalism is just another word for Fascism, they believe.

    They may be saying whatever they want but they do not believe it for sure. No mainstream left party, except fringe libertarians, have ever proposed to literally open the borders or repeal all the migration rules and laws. On the contrary for the past 20 years they’ve made the migration rules stricter, e.g. you ought to give them your fingerprints to get a US or EU tourist visa.

  46. Linh Dinh: “though citing love of nations, our Washington D.C. rulers are essentially anti-American.”

    The profound sentence above called to mind Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn’s important essay, “Repentance and Self-Limitation in the Life of Nations.”

    Linh Dinh is far sighted. How many people do you know who have the moral integrity to expose Lennon’s diamond studded jackboot hit, “Imagine”?

    Zionist N.W.O. indoctrinational work in the U.S.A. is the vast open conspiracy that our “rulers”

    AMERICA once hosted the late-great Russian in exile. Even President Carter shied away from Solzhenitsyn’s criticisms of American culture & distorted politics.

    Can I “imagine” my country without voices like that of Linh’ s. His is precious samizdat from under S. Philly’s rubble!

  47. Wally says: • Website
    @jilles dykstra

    Especially ‘gas chambers’ that were simply scientifically impossible as alleged. LOL !!

    recommended, alleged ‘holocau\$t’ gassing process debunked:
    ‘Cyanide Chemistry at Auschwitz’

    You cannot have ‘6M Jews & 5M others’ supposedly murdered without there being utterly massive, visible, verifiable human remains.
    Particularly when Jews say they know where these massive remains are located.
    But no such remains can be seen.


    You cannot allow the discomfort created by conditioning to guide your analyses. As with all the other forms of crimespeak, you must engage it, preferably in public, you will get used to it. First it will be hard, but with time it will get easier (it is also great fun to watch the indoctrinated respond). Somebody needs to be the first one to scream “the emperor has no clothes“. Then, once one person does it, the others realize that it is safe and more follow. The key thing here is not to allow ideological “sacred cows” to roam around your intellectual mindspace and limit you in your thinking.

    If you start with false premises, everything you subsequently extrapolate from those premises will likewise carry along the original error and thus exhibit error within themselves; aka: garbage in, garbage out.

  48. @Che Guava

    Margolis was born in US. I believe he now lives in Canada. If so he’s included.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  49. Art says:

    Nationalism is simply the love of one’s language, culture, history and heritage, one’s very identity in short, but as wielded by an empire, nationalism becomes a murderous tool to violate one nation after another. The American empire is destroying the American nation.

    Linh Dinh,

    How great – beautifully said – simply said.

    Many Kudos.

    Peace — Art

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  50. LauraMR says:

    It should not be difficult to find statistics of intra-national and inter-national rates of divorce.

  51. Bayan says:
    @Linh Dinh


    You write like an artist; but you answer like a soldier in war, as if there is only one clear answer.

  52. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Che Guava

    I think the connection is probably something like this: they consider themselves red-pilled as to the nature of women, so instead of trying to get meaningful relationships, they just go for “game” and sex.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  53. @Brabantian

    That’s a little too complicated for me … I’m going to apply Occam’s Razor and go with Snowden being a CIA plant to discredit NSA. Fewer dots to connect, and good old-fashioned interagency rivalry is much more believable.

  54. @The Alarmist

    “Your stuff for me, but not for thee.”

    That reminds me of the principle of socialism, as defined by my mother*:
    What’s yours is mine and what’s mine is my own.
    I don’t remember her offering it as a recipe for living in peace.

    *She might of course have been repeating what someone else had said.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  55. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Shouting Thomas

    That doxxing was extremely unprofessional. ad hominem attacks and doxxing in a single post. Not cool. Not cool at all.

  56. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    That’s got to be really hard for her. Thais are very social people and need to be part of an extended family / village.

    I think that’s one big reason why Thai/Western marriages always break down. The Westerner wants a one-to-one emotional relationship with an underlying current of ‘you and me vs. the world’ whereas the Thai wife puts far less emphasis on marriage and lives more through her own family/friends/village. Westerners are intrinsically a lot more oriented towards a few high quality relationships (nuclear family, close friends) whereas Asians spread their affection over a wider field and often blur the lines between family/friends/business/village.

    • Replies: @Michelle
  57. njguy73 says:

    “By ‘nationalism’ I mean first of all the habit of assuming that human beings can be classified like insects and that whole blocks of millions or tens of millions of people can be confidently labelled ‘good’ or ‘bad’. But secondly — and this is much more important — I mean the habit of identifying oneself with a single nation or other unit, placing it beyond good and evil and recognising no other duty than that of advancing its interests. Nationalism is not to be confused with patriotism…By ‘patriotism’ I mean devotion to a particular place and a particular way of life, which one believes to be the best in the world but has no wish to force on other people. Patriotism is of its nature defensive, both militarily and culturally. Nationalism, on the other hand, is inseparable from the desire for power. The abiding purpose of every nationalist is to secure more power and more prestige, not for himself but for the nation or other unit in which he has chosen to sink his own individuality.” – George Orwell, “Notes on Nationalism,” 1945

  58. @Brabantian

    Thank you for all the detailed info. I had heard this of Snowden and had always suspected Assange, great buds with Amy Goodman, Noam Chomsky, and, yes, Israel Shamir. All these phoney ‘dissidents’, just another ingredient of Total Lockdown, or alternately The Fun House, or, if preferred, our brave new world forever and ever into the future.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  59. njguy73 says:

    “But now, here’s a funny thing. As well as being a new-minted American, I am also, still, a citizen of the United Kingdom, a subject of Her Majesty the Queen. I am, you see, a dual citizen…Taking out U.S. citizenship does not cause the authorities in London to strike you from the roll of their citizens. There is, in fact, no such roll. Anyone born in the U.K. to U.K. parents remains a citizen for life, unless he takes some positive legal action to renounce his citizenship…” – John Derbyshire, 2002.

    That man knows migration. He once lived here illegally, of his own admission, for several years, then left and came back legally with a Chinese-born wife. If you haven’t, you should read his columns on “The National Question.”

  60. @Johann

    ‘As far as John Lennon is concerned he was always a drugged out phony just like his buddy Sir Paul, a bunch a rich capitalists telling the peasants how to live.’

    Totally. I remember getting the impression way back in high school in the early eighties that all these British musicians were just business men. Huge acts: the Beatles, the Stones, the Who, Elton John, Eric Clapton, Fleetwood Mac. All shite. All capitalist opportunists from a soulless place. After many years living in the hell known as England, I can now wholeheartedly confirm all my old suspicions.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  61. Che Guava says:

    As I’ve said before, the buttons should include a ‘thank you’ or ‘thanks’one, but thanks for that!

  62. Che Guava says:

    I don’t mean to be obtuse here.although I am intentionally obtuse at times.


  63. Che Guava says:

    I can’t be bothered with the whole delete-cancel-repost right now, but Margolis is, as a reporter, greatly inferior to Cockburn or Fisk, both of whom expose themselves to danger, to report from the scene.

    At least, as near as they can go without being held hostage or for ransom.

    Those latter aims are just common sense.

  64. Che Guava says:
    @Dan Hayes

    I read much.mainly Japanese and English, also a little old Chinese script (can read all of the ancient sword and mirror inscriptions in C4 to C6 Japan), my recent post of DAF lyrics, I know what they mean, should have posted an English translation, but cannot read much German. Actually, when I think about iit, quite a lot, but I could never read e.g. Heidegger in German.

    Summer hol. project, learn at least to start to sound Russian Cyrillic correctly.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  65. annamaria says:
    @daniel le mouche

    There is a difference between courageous men and women and the opportunists.
    Snowden and Assange are known by their names for their courage, whereas the droves of ziocons/neocons are known for their lack of principles and for the proclivity for slandering political non-conformists. John Pilger is another name that the loyalists to the empire love to smear.

  66. @Dan Hayes

    Interesting about your experience with your class.

    There was a very negative biography done on Lennon. The first part of it ran in Rolling Stone, But then it kind of disappeared. And the author, who had done a similar, negative bio on Elvis, suddenly died.

    I was able to track a copy of the Lennon book in a used bookstore in Chelsea, Manhattan in 2005, and it is pretty amazing if even 50 percent of its facts are true. Yoko has spoken out against this book, but it paints her as an extremely mean, dominant woman, who spent most of her time managing her husband’s assets (there were 500,000 dollar cows in their inventory among other things), had sex with any man or woman who was around, while John was a babbling fool constantly talking about being assassinated (this account was depicting Lennon in the mid to late 70s) and constantly high on coke or heroin or both (if that’s possible).

    It was difficult to read at some points, but in the end, it humanized Lennon much more than the many Rolling Stone interviews of him that I had read over the years. He didn’t deserve to get shot, but from what the book said, he was acting kind of jiggy about that possibility for a good spell there.

    Be careful of what you wish for, you just might get it.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @laura r
  67. ‘John Pilger is another name that the loyalists to the empire love to smear.’

    Don’t know about that. He writes for the Independent as well as for some mags, the Nation? Can’t be bothered to look. He writes convincingly and his documentaries are convincing too. But he’s most certainly employed by The Man. He also won’t touch 911, and is another great bud of Assange, whose courage may all be another act in the fun house show. I do like Pilger on Hollywood–but he never fingers the elephant in the room. He also loves Chomsky, and never tires of quoting the typical tiresome Anglo Harold Pinter’s Nobel speech.

  68. Another ringer from Linh Dinh!

    Far from promising peace, those who sing of no countries are really threatening us all with unspeakable violence, psychic and physical.

    You can say that again. They now feel comfortable ‘joking’ about White genocide. These are dark times.

  69. That crazy white lady who married into the Masai is a dingbat.

    She has no use for her own ethnicity, culture, and history. She has no desire to preserve them. And she has no real respect for Masai culture. If she really respected the Masai, she would know that it is a special identity, not something anyone can join and ‘larp’ like some costume-game.

    True nationalism means a deep sense of shared blood and narrative, preferably over territory called ‘homeland’, with others of your kind. This sense of togetherness is real on the genetic, historic, and territorial level. (Even if others of your kind are away from the homeland, they look back to homeland as the true their true home and feel an affinity with others of their own kind.)

    After all, a Hungarian in America looks back to Hungary as his ancestral homeland. He doesn’t look to any other nation as his true homeland. It’s a sense of roots and origins. And when black Americans look to origins, it is Black Africa, mostly West Africa.

    And it is because of this shared sense of blood, history, and territory that a people can survive great tragedies. If one’s sole identity is ‘myself’ or ‘my family’, then it’s all over if you or your family is wiped out. Suppose some Jew is in a Nazi camp and sees himself ONLY as a libertarian individual. If the Nazis kill him, he is over and that’s that. The Nazis defeated him totally. Or, suppose a Jew’s only identity is closest kin. If the Nazis wipe out the entire family, it is totally lost and gone forever. But if a Jew has a shared identity with other Jews, he cannot be totally beaten even if he is killed. Even if his entire family is killed. As long as Jews as a people survive, they can carry on and even triumph.
    It’s like the military. If you identify with your fellow Marines, it’s not total loss even if you are killed because you share a sense of brotherhood and common purpose with other Marines. So, as long as they keep fighting, your spirit is alive with them even if you’re dead. A Jew who only thinks of the individual is finished if he dies. A Jew who only cares about family and close ones is finished if the family is wiped out. But a Jew who feels a sense of Jewish Nationalism is spiritually alive even if he and his family is killed since he shares common identity and destiny with other Jews. So, as long as other Jews live, the Jewish Nation lives on, and his spirit is alive through them.

    It’s like Russians lost 20 million people in WWII. All those men lost their lives as individuals but they didn’t lose as a nation since surviving Russians preserved the identity and culture. As long as surviving Russians carry the torch, even the dead Russians are alive in spirit through that fire. That is nationalism. Indeed, as long as people survive as a nation, even huge losses don’t matter much. If Japan were to lose 50% of its people in an asteroid attack or horrible war, Japan will still be a whole nation. Even though it lost 50% of its people, the remaining 50% carry on with the identity, history, and territory that represents the 50% that was lost. And from the remaining 50% can come more people to fill up the island again. It’s like the Holocaust may have killed 70% of European Jewry, but that it didn’t mean Jews were 30% of what they were. They were still 100% whole since identity, history, and territory are not about numbers but an organic sense of community where the living carry on with the spirit of the dead of the past and of tragedies.

    Every individual is unique and every family is unique. So, every Jew is different from all other Jews, and every Russian is different from all other Russians. Still, there is a sense of blood, history, and territory that binds an individual with others of his kind. So, even if a Jew dies, he can rest assured that others of his kind in blood, memory, and loyalty will carry on. The national community of which he is a part will not perish even if he perishes. And that is a good feeling.
    Now, if he is the ONLY Jew left in the world, his death will be the end of it all. Then, non-Jews may remember Jewishness as a museum piece — like we remember Hittites and others of extinct cultures — but Jewish Nation will be gone for good.

    Nationalism is knowing that there are others of your kind in blood, memory, and claim to territory(or longing for lost land). It is knowing that even if you die, others like you will carry the torch and keep the community alive through genetics, space, and memory. And that is a good feeling.. that your identity and being will go on through others like you and their children, that is if they keep lit the torch and pass it down.

    But globalism seeks to weaken all national identities. Without a sense of organic community, there is only fad and fashion defined by pop culture degeneracy and politically correct dogma that would have you believe that one’s true identity should be based on escapist fantasy(of 50 genders and tattoos and worshiping celebrities) than rooted & based reality.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  70. Diversity, Degeneracy, and Poverty.

    The future of Africance.

    The cancer of diversism.

  71. JackOH says:

    ” The American empire is destroying the American nation.” There’s probably much truth to Linh’s epigram. I’ve had the thought for years that tossing an American youngster a rifle, and sending him outside America’s borders, makes that same youngster uniquely vulnerable to undue feelings of superiority over others, and uniquely vulnerable to the machinations of our political overlords.

  72. Lennon sang “Imagine” quite earnestly, and his admirers see it as an ideal. Considering how things are going in the West, they feel closer to this goal of having no countries than ever.

    Queen had an equally globalist song – One Vision.

    One flesh, One bone,
    One true religion
    One race, One hope
    One real decision
    Wowowowowo woh yeah oh yeah oh yeah

    The repeated ‘one’ betrayed a certain narcissism, combined with Freddie Mercury’s promiscuity – which was fatal for him in the end.

    No hate, No fight
    Just excitation
    All through the night
    It’s a celebration
    Wowowowowowo yeah
    One one one one one one one
    One vision

    What is end result of this globalist ideology? Mercury’s last lines in the song:

    One day hey hey
    Just gimme gimme gimme gimme
    Fried chicken!

    Which reminds me of the population graph:

  73. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Priss Factor

    Maybe she had to lose it to find it?

    Traveling the world, integrating into foreign cultures and then returning back to England is a great tradition. See such greats as James Brooke, first Raja of Sarawak.

  74. I think these women are determined to join a new nation because they’ve never heard a single good thing about their own, and are hell-bent on disassociating themselves with the stain. I saw a local news bit some months ago about a high school aged white girl who decided to identify as a male. It was a feel-good story about how accepting her friends were of her decision, In the interview she/he kept going on and on about “finding the proper identity” and it occurred to me that a big part of all this “finding the proper identity” is about finding an identity that is not just white. Gotta join an approved group at all costs.

  75. The author misses the most important point of all in this subject and thus the article is useless.

    The point is that all of these women exemplify Western liberated woman: desperately craving a strong, masculine man to submit to, as white men emasculated themselves to appease feminism. As white men lost their balls, white women turned to mudsharking.

    There is also an explicit element of true female sexuality manifest here: liberated women desire to not only submit to a strong man, they want to degrade themselves. Mudsharking is self-degradation. This is behind the story of the Uzbek and the negro (the white Italian not so much).

    Now women are literally importing hordes of muzzgroids to Europe, just flat out importing men who wet their panties by being unapologetically patriarchal. They are of course only very dimly aware of this, or not at all.

    White men elevated women to be their equals and the women now destroy our civilization and the futures of our children in a great spasm of hind-brain evolutionary-psychological whoring.

  76. Zenarchy says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Nationalism can be useful from time to time to disengage from imperialism.

    The problem is similar as with nuclear weapons: once you have nuclear weapons you need permanent peace between nations that have them. Nationalism has similar issues; as long as it’s always non-aggressive it can be just fine, but how to achieve that during economic and other kinds of crisis?

    In the Balkans, Croats and Serbs in particular are good examples. Also funny ones, considering they’re both Christians (Catholic vs Orthodox) and speak forms of basically the same language (just marginally more different than, say, Swiss German and German German), and yet Croat Catholic nationalists – the Ustashe – committed probably the most cruel genocide in European history that shocked even Nazis when they saw the Jasenovac camp where much of the killing was via hammers, axes, and knives. (70 percent victims Serbs, 10 – Jews, 10 – Romani, 10 – communists and other political opponents).

  77. Sean says:

    Russian innovation is a petrified forest. Nikolai Ogarkov Chief of the General Staff of the USSR in 1984 admitted that the Soviet Union was a generation behind America. Russia has altered everything but they as far behind America as ever. Luckily for them, they have nothing anyone wants, so they will be left alone to sink further into backwardness.

    Nationalism is about self-protection first and foremost The Germans nation became a politically unified after centuries of being invaded. Israelis are nationalistic in large part because of what happened to Jews when they did not have a nation.

    Fisticuffs have broken out in The Guardian between two intellectual big shots, philosopher John Gray and psychologist Steven Pinker. The fight, which features lots of rhetorical flourishes and high dudgeon, addresses a serious issue: Is humanity achieving moral progress? Or, as Gray would put it, “progress”? Philosopher John Gray asserts that the statistics with which Steven Pinker documents the decline of violence “are murky, leaving a vast range of casualties of violence unaccounted for.”
    First, a bit of background on Gray. He is almost comically gloomy about humanity’s prospects. In his best-known books, Straw Dogs (2003) and Black Mass (2007), he mocks humanity’s aspirations to create a better world….

    In the final analysis Gray is correct, because humanity and their technology will not survive the rapidly approaching take off of exponential moral and scientific progress.

  78. laura r says:

    “imagine” was written by a 20 something multi millionaire who traveled 5 star for most of his life. he grew up in a safe white working class town. yoko’s father was a japanese billionaire. IMO she has no talent. after “meet the beatles”- they sounded like barry manilow does las vegas. either that, or some faggy broadway musical. when i think of lennon & mc cartney i think elevator musak.

  79. laura r says:

    these people could afford body guards. they also could have used the back door or service entrance. never liked them anyway. that rolling stone cover of them was disgusting. both were creepy IMO. i was a dissident those days, as i am now. too bad they didnt do more “love me do”- i liked them so much better.

    • Replies: @restless94110
  80. @laura r

    Yeah, I never was digging on Lennon’s work in the 70s, not the beginning stuff with Working Class Hero, not the middle period in LA, and not the end stuff just before death. Woman is the Nigger of the World? Please.

    I’m like you. I really like the Stones and the Beatles when they were writing edgy, original songs in their first 5 years or so.

    And then it became lovey-dovey and then, with John, very political.

    I used to have a quote on my kitchen bulletin board by some old painter. Something like:

    Live an undramatic life, so that you may bring drama to your work.

    Lennon should have followed that concept.

    I guess success changed the music of both those groups. It had to get complicated and boring. I think they were trying to get back to simplicity with the last album but they broke up instead. Mainly because of the Yoko and Linda or so it is said.

  81. Hibernian says:

    Another formulation is that the Christian says, “Brother, what’s mine is yours,” and the Socialist says, “Brother, what’s yours is mine.”

  82. Sean says:

    You always get free riders, and the picture shows a rather dumpy lady who married a tall handsome man.

    An empire, by nature, must trample on nationhood, even its own, for it presents the empire’s ambitions as the nation’s necessities, for how else can you get Americans, for example, to go die and fight in Afghanistan or Iraq? Though citing love of nation constantly, our Washington rulers are essentially anti-American, and that’s why a genuine nationalist like Edward Snowden must flee to Russia.

    Nationalism is simply the love of one’s language, culture, history and heritage, one’s very identity in short, but as wielded by an empire, nationalism becomes a murderous tool to violate one nation after another. The American empire is destroying the American nation.

    Socrates refused to flee the hemlock, saying one can no more reject one’s country than one’s parents, therefore he must convince his fellow citizens or accept whatever punishment they see fit to administer. That is love of ones country but it is only there for times of trouble Nationalism is simply banding together in an attempt to attain security in response to unending threat. Sparta became nationalistic, like Germany, because it was surrounded by enemies and would never be safe until they were neutralized.

    Lihn Dihn’s idea of national feeling seems rather close to Taoism and a sustainable culture. But that failed when the Chinese Empire tried it. The US has a progressive narrative, whereby it pokes it nose in all around the globe in suport of morality. Britain did the same thing when it was dominant. members of the American armed forces are all volunteers and the wars they go to are really very low intensity ones. I don’t see these small superpower tit for tat conflicts as a disaster. In fact there is good reason to think international cooperation is much more dangerous than internal and external discord over war in third world (and rate) countries like Syria or Afghanistan.

    Martin Nowak says in his book, The Supercooperators, that reciprocity and mutual interest win out in the end. In computer simulations a tit for tat strategy won and dominated eventually more and more cooperation and even what might be called altruism spread and become dominant

    American rushing towards progress is the real danger. As Nowak notes, we seem to be the lone technological life form in the Universe and given that intelligent life must have arisen it apparently self exterminates not long after technology takes off (about the point where we are approaching now). This would not surprise a Taoist and I suppose it is possible some alien worlds halted scientific advance in the way the Chinese Empire did. Believe in conscious rationalism as a route to perfectibility and the transcending of war, scarcity, ect is the White Whale that America cannot help but pursue.

  83. Anonymous [AKA "Ten Count Toronto"] says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Not true. Other form s of fascism did not require nationalism at all. For example the Inquisition killed, mutilated and terrorized people regardless of their national or ethnic identity, and the Church and it’s empire was pan-national and multiethnic by nature. Centuries later in the Stalin-era purges, the security apparatus Stalin used was once again multiethnic, and neither national, nor regional nor ethnic identification offered any protection from it’s the excess.

    Totalitarianism and related excesses are possible under any circumstance where an alliance of like-minded zealots and absolutists have unchecked power. Nations are just one type of administrative unit which can provide an incubator for such movements to develop, but it’s hardly the only one. History shows that nations have provided a host for at least as many POSITIVE and beneficial social experiments as they have for the ugly ones.

  84. @TelfoedJohn

    Buddha didn’t have dick to do with Buddhism. He had no interest in metaphysics, he was just searching for the right way to live this life.

    All the metaphysical tomfoolery only came about much later, when later “Buddhists” got involved in the competition for followers in the crowded religious field of the subcontinent and greater Asia, and the detached arhats didn’t have much to offer the general public, so it was transformed into another “salvation” religion.

  85. Truth says:

    Buddha didn’t have dick to do with Buddhism.

    LOL, yeah and the Christ guy…no connection with CHRISTianity at all.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Lin
  86. Talha says:

    When people make such a claim, you would expect them to give it at least some grounding in an external source. Research paper, book, their uncle’s twitter feed…something.


    • Replies: @Truth
  87. Truth says:

    Yes, and he could just start with the etymology of the word.

  88. Lin says:

    Buddha had no dick??
    Wrong(Sorry, I’m taking it literally,not metaphorically..), Let me tell you a Buddhist scandal little known to non-Buddhists:

    Buddha had 3 wives, no kidding. He got his enlightment at the age of 18 and said to be celibate since then. Something strange happened: 6 years after he was supposed to be abstained from sex, one of his wives got pregnant and gave birth to a son. Rahula was his name. HowTF it happened? Well your guess is as good as mine. The usual apologetics of the Buddhist faithful are:
    1)The pregnancy lasted 6 years.
    2)immaculate conception Buddhist style

    Well, Buddha’s court officials were not too convinced and they excluded the possibility their holy prince took a celibacy holiday and accused that royal concubine of adultery and wanted to execute her on a burning pyre hindu style. Buddha stopped them and accepted Rahula as his son.

    The whole event could be made into a very interesting movie or TV series with erotic images associated with a holy figure OR with ‘philosophical’ paradigms thrown in

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  89. Hibernian says:
    @daniel le mouche

    Fleetwood Mac was an American group.

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  90. @Hibernian

    From Wikipedia (the very first line of their entry):
    ‘Fleetwood Mac are a British-American rock band, formed in London in 1967.’

  91. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The whole event could be made into a very interesting movie or TV series with erotic images associated with a holy figure OR with ‘philosophical’ paradigms thrown in

    Oh happy day. Just what the world needs — more religious myth.

  92. Chuck says:

    Nationalism is a stepping stone to Globalism. In the 19th century, good liberals were nationalists. Now they are globalists.

  93. Svigor says:

    Trouble with this is that the left has killed waaaay more people than the right; well over 100 million people in the 20th century alone.


  94. Svigor says:

    You cannot have nationalism without nation states and nation-states raison d’etre is conflict with each other.

    You cannot have ethnic/racial strife within homogeneous States; States’ raison d’etre is borders protecting ethnic/racial groups from one another.

    You guys suck at this. Improve plz.

  95. Svigor says:

    You speak of putting all your eggs in one basket; the behavior of a moron.

    My view is that they are when their own men are conquered or when there is the illusion of such right now. After all in the tribal past they simply would have been taken by the other tribe if theirs lost. It’s not exactly a new evolutionary psychology angle of looking at it.

    If female xenophilia were simply human nature, there wouldn’t be such a mania for propaganda pushing it, or such a mania against resistance. No, panmixia is an agenda.

    And it wouldn’t still be so rare, in the face of such a zeitgeist.

  96. Michelle says:

    Missing her family and how she used to do in practically Paradise. Everyone who got to know her felt bad for her. Her husband just wanted sex with a Thai woman without the trouble of flying to Thailand and paying for the privilege.

  97. Patricus says:
    @jilles dykstra

    How can you say the United States has no common culture? From coast to coast the American experience is not uniform but quite recognizable to all that visit different states. An Alabamian and Oregonian have more in common culturally than English, Welsh and Scots.

    I’m pretty sure Americans are not unique in their pursuit of money. Not every American is obsessed with accumulating cash, it is a small minority, but everyone needs some money to live. Perhaps the Dutch don’t want or need money.

    Americans are not unaware of their common culture but many visitors from other lands can’t comprehend Americans. Sometimes it is the English speaking visitors who are most ignorant. We might generalize about Europeans, “they are all indistinguishable continental Euro trash.” That would be a stupid Characterization much like yours.

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