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It’s cold yet sunny on this Christmas morning. Standing outside, I’m surrounded by a squadron of winged insects. Dots of light, they hover and meander in air tirelessly. Like drunk pinballs, they jerk, dance and bounce down invisible grooves, and around unseen obstacles. No, they’re more like ponderous thoughts. (Your jumped-up synapses are but flying insects.) Now and then, each would dart decisively, like a jabbing boxer unleashing a right cross or hook, but for what purpose, I have no idea, being no insect, not even a very stupid one.

After nearly three weeks in Beirut, I’m back in southern Lebanon, in a village where life is still tranquil, and signs of obvious economic or social distress are nonexistent, unlike in the capital. Extended families ensure no one starves, or goes without shoes.

The day after I returned, there was collective mourning, however, for a 22-year-old native son had just been martyred in Syria. Within half a day, his body had been brought back, and banners and posters bearing his handsome portrait went up.

At dawn, speakers broadcast a plangent prayer, and this went on, episodically, throughout the day. On foot or in cars, mourners converged on the funeral, with some children dressed in military uniforms. They’re all proud to honor one of their own. With so many Hezbollah fighters clustered, security was airtight.

A community can’t survive if no one is willing to die defending its values.

As if to reinforce this most obvious, yet still often forgotten, truism, I just received a most incisive email from a Lebanese-American, Frank Isabelle.

Born in Columbus, Ohio, Isabelle has been lucky enough to spend many “restful and carefree summers” in his ancestral Lebanon. At the entrance to his grandmother’s village, there’s a mural, “Salima, the village of the resistor Ghassan Saeed, welcomes all.”

Isabelle:

Who is this man Ghassan Saeed? Frustrated with what he felt was a tepid response to the Jewish occupation of Lebanon, Ghassan and his fellow countrymen organized an informal cell to engage in resistance activities. Acting of their own initiative, and without any support from the all too numerous militias of civil war Lebanon, Ghassan was eventually imprisoned in an ambush while his comrade Pierre attained martyrdom. Today, Ghassan works as a mechanic.

Is it possible to imagine such a noble and pithy sentiment adorning the entrance of an American suburb? Of course not. For Americans, nothing seems more natural, more scientific than allowing their life to be rationalized for them. They not only live at the end of history, they also love nothing more than gloating over their static, passive existence. I can’t think of anywhere else in the world where people are proud to be so aggressively babied. But that’s the way it is with Americans.

Too harsh? Hardly. Cowering offensive lineman-sized babies can certainly use a few Younghoe Koo kicks in the ass, to jumpstart them, finally, into battle against their Jewish occupation.

First, though, they must give a shit about their village, hood or subdivision. Isabelle:

Communal life breeds sensitive people. That is why so many poets and martyrs are found among the ranks of the Lebanese, while pornstars and petty thieves are a dime a dozen in the vapid consumerist wasteland of 21st century America […] Every nook and cranny of our [Lebanese] village was crafted by our ancestors, and the trajectory and inertia of our common heritage feels almost inevitable. Each generation adds another level to our living quarters, or expands the garden a little more, or dedicates a new roadside shrine.

All day on Lebanese television, there are scenes of exuberant or somber Christmas celebrations in Lebanon and Syria, and it’s impossible to not be moved by reverent images of Biblical sites, historical churches, lovingly restored frescoes, children praying at home or Holy Communion taken in magnificent settings.

In Muslim-majority Lebanon, folks of whatever faith, or none at all, still retain enough of an innate sense of decency to not put up with any Christmas-capped talking turd or psycho Santas slashing innocents. Unlike in Israel, Christians are not spat on here. Meanwhile, Americans have long been conditioned to laugh at, and even pay for, their own degradation.

 

Most may think of Lebanon as a land of sectarian violence, with religious militias slaughtering each other, but coexistence has actually been the norm. Ancient Christian villages abut Muslim ones.

A short drive away from me is Anqoun. With its large portraits of Nasrallah and 25 martyrs who died expelling Jews, you know you’re in Hezbollah country, but just five minutes away is Maghdoucheh, the most sacred Christian site in Lebanon. Its resilience is worth examining.

The Christians of Maghdoucheh count themselves among the earliest. Saint Paul and Jesus preached in nearby Sidon, visible down the hill.

In 326AD, Saint Helena summoned a Maghdouchian to Constantinople, for she had heard about a sacred cave in faraway Phoenicia. There, the Virgin Mary had sheltered as her son preached, locals believed. Finding the Maghdouchian’s account convincing, Saint Helena sent an icon of the Madonna with baby Jesus to Maghdoucheh, where it still is today, locals believe, inside the cave.

For a millennium, both cave and icon disappeared. After the Muslim conquest, Magdouchians fled to Zahle and Zouk, each a day’s hike away. Abandoning their village, they covered their sacred grotto with earth, rocks and vines.

Returning 900 years later, they could no longer find it, however. Another century passed before the cave was rediscovered, by accident, when a kid goat fell into a hole in the ground. Thrilled, Magdouchians placed their icon inside a new chapel, but twice, it returned by itself to the cave, locals believe, so there it was the other day. In the soft yellow light, three women prayed to it.

Outside the cave, there’s a marble statue of a sitting Madonna, with a plexiglass sign behind her, in French, Arabic and English, “I’m waiting for my children.”

No sightseer, I had been to Magdoucheh a dozen times, but only to visit Abou Jihad “King of the Drink” Liquor Store. This is also Ali the driver’s favorite pilgrimage.

With Ali translating, I asked the 60-ish owner how long she had lived in Magdoucheh? Looking surprised, she answered, “All my life! My grandmother was here, and my grandmother’s grandmother.” On her wall was a mock but life-sized M-16, and two fake pistols, as decorations.

When Israel attacked Lebanon in 2006, some Magdouchians were nervous their village might be targeted by enraged Muslims, but Hezbollah reassured them this would not happen. It backed this up by protecting Magdoucheh and all other Christian villages inside its territory.

 

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2020 saw the assassinations of a top Iranian general and its leading nuclear scientist. An explosion in Beirut wrecked its port and hundreds of buildings. Though the war in Syria has cooled down, it persists. To most Lebanese, these attacks are parts of the long-standing Jewish/American war on the Iranian/Syrian/Hezbollah Axis of Resistance (against Israel).

So who’s winning this conflict? Obviously Israel, if you consider how their recent assaults have met with almost no retaliation, and how many Muslim nations have normalized relations with the Jewish state. Just this year, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Sudan and Morocco have done so, and soon, Oman, Pakistan and Indonesia may join them. Israel is here to stay, it’s clear, while the Axis of Resistance is economically crippled, diplomatically isolated and militarily impotent, no?

A closer look, though, will reveal that Israel’s solidity is entirely illusory, for its sugar daddy, slave and hired gun has been economically, politically, socially, intellectually and morally imploded, thanks, in large part, to the machination of Jewish power, ironically.

Driven by spite, hubris and contempt, it doesn’t know when to stop. Wagging the dog for decades, the all-too-clever tail has just about killed it. Uncle Sam has been reduced to a limp and blathering cross-dresser with less than a penny in his pockets.

Ah, but Sammy and his Jewish boss still have plenty of nukes! Going under, they may not hesitate to unleash a bunch. To get rid of the Jewish/American Axis of Evil, this might be the price Lebanon, the Middle East and the rest of humanity will have to pay.

Flying into Beirut two months ago, I suspected explosive events by the end of the year, especially near the American presidential election. Despite continuing turbulence everywhere, life has limped on, however, within the sick terms of our new normal.

In three days, I’ll leave for Cairo, the Mother of the World. Lovely Lebanon is still at peace, and that’s what I will remember. I won’t forget its rocky hills, olive groves, large curtains over entire balconies, old houses still stunning despite much neglect, quirky purse-shaped bread and relaxed, pleasant people everywhere.

Though the next cataclysm seems imminent, it will surely rise from the ruins.

Linh Dinh’s latest book is Postcards from the End of America. He maintains a regularly updated photo blog.

 
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  1. Emslander says:

    It’s obvious that we’re coming to the end of something and very quickly. Our governmental remedy for what is obvious to everyone in the perceptive world is to send out no-money to its favored entities and a few dollars to the people whose many dollars are now fully squandered. In exchange for lifetimes of work plus generations of men, now gone, who thought they were building structures upon which their descendants could build even more, we are getting peanuts and pornography.

    Lebanon now is what the USA will look like in ten years. Many places along the coasts have already reached that future. In some isolated and remote parts of the USA the seeds of a good future have been sown. Come back to your country, Linh, and find us.

    • Thanks: cronkitsche
    • Replies: @Polemos
  2. Polemos says:
    @Emslander

    In some isolated and remote parts of the USA the seeds of a good future have been sown. Come back to your country, Linh, and find us.

    That’s the thing: what is Linh’s country? I find it worthwhile how his closely observing local folks among their built worlds reveal a universality within our human condition — admittedly, having one’s viewpoint tends to produce a unified perspective… but I think there’s something to Linh’s grand narrative perspective that transcends the autochthonous, moleman closeness his encounters demonstrate and his narratives valorize. I am trying to say that Linh’s a world inhabitant showing us individuals and spirits living authentically when rooted and embedded, while being himself rootless and far apart from family, though never friends, in this time when we are all being broken down into our own atomized suffering rather than the collective solidarity claimed in the propaganda he’s challenging — so many of us challenging —

    it’s not in being an American that I feel that he speaks for me, to me, about something I have observed and can’t unsee, but rather in being anyone who has open and deep love for another, being a genuine human, that I feel is where my country and his country are one. I don’t know if that’s his goal or my naïve optimism, but it is why I enjoy his work in writing and picturing. I see more that, even though I am persuaded with the compelling story about the value of the local and the individual, the larger story involves all of us in this celebratory universe…

    and in this story, there are monsters…

    • Thanks: Mustapha Mond, Franz
  3. Linh really pulls no punches and tells it like it is. Another illuminating, stirring, infuriating, saddening, loving paean to a wonderful place and people I will never visit, but now feel, in some small way, that I have.

    Thank you, Linh.

    Stay healthy and happy, as you bring so much to so many, your on-going contributions to this world are something that would be sorely missed.

    And thanks to Ron for continuing to make possible this exceptional experience here on Unz Review.

    Cheers!

  4. TG says:

    “Wagging the dog for decades, the all-too-clever tail has just about killed it. Uncle Sam has been reduced to a limp and blathering cross-dresser with less than a penny in his pockets.”

    Yes, well, while you can’t get blood out of a stone, you can still get quite a lot of blood out of a walking corpse, if you only squeeze hard enough.

    “If this capital crumbled to the ground, the one thing that would remain is our commitment to our aid to Israel,” Pelosi said. “And I don’t even call it aid, our cooperation with Israel. That’s fundamental to who we are.” 2018 AIPAC conference in Hollywood, Florida.

  5. As always, Linh manages to put us “right there” where you can taste, feel and smell the places that he goes. A real talented artist who uses a computer keyboard as his paintbrush and the Unz Review as his canvas.

    • Replies: @Johann
  6. Brave Linh,
    You are far more courageous than I am, nonetheless, I fear for your safety. While in Lebanon, you would have been protected by the invisible and invincible Hizbollah fighters, but Egypt is an entirely different terrain to navigate safely. So be safe, and Merry Christmas, believer or not.
    Wishing you a glorious 2021!

  7. Mr. Grey says:

    I always enjoy the writings of Lihn Dinh, except when his dislike of jews leads him to uninformed rantings about ME politics.

    • Disagree: RadicalCenter
    • Troll: sarz, Alfred
    • Replies: @Badger Down
  8. The hyenas have arrived at the lion’s presence. They yap, squeal and bark, calling more beasts of the death darkness to depose the king.

  9. mcohen says:

    yes linh,lebanon has a great future.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  10. ‘…In three days, I’ll leave for Cairo, the Mother of the World…’

    Think about what you say and do there. The Zionists will be able to get at you more conveniently there than anywhere else you’ve been.

    • Agree: Mustapha Mond, Not Raul
    • Thanks: Oscar Peterson
    • Replies: @sarz
  11. @mcohen

    ‘yes linh,lebanon has a great future.’

    Well, Israel has to vanish first, that much is true.

  12. sarz says:
    @Colin Wright

    According to sources cited by Kevin Barrett, Sisi is halachically Jewish, his mother apparently being a Moroccan Jew whose brother is a big shot in Israel.

    I agree that Linh’s trip to Egypt will be very risky. Sisi has murdered thousands of Muslim Brotherhood demonstrators in cold blood, not to mention Morsi’s curious death.

    • Agree: Mustapha Mond, Not Raul
  13. Renoman says:

    A great writer, no one else in his league. Thanks!

  14. Exile says:

    A community can’t survive if no one is willing to die defending its values.

    Whites should heed Linh’s words here.

    Vietnam faced down the entire might of the United States for years, as has Afghanistan. Those people and those cultures are still around – worse for the experience but still around.

    They did so by being willing to endure privation and even death to preserve their values – first and foremost being their identity and sovereignty as a people.

    The survival of Whites as a race and of our European tribes depends on our willingness to take damage and push back. It’s on us.

    • Agree: Not Raul, Alfred
  15. Linh’s emphasis here is on community spirit. In Lebanon, this spirit still lives in villages whereas in cities the sense of community has been very much weakened. This community spirit is what made me feel more safe walking the streets of Beirut in the middle of the civil war than I felt as a student roaming the streets of Boston. The American society has no salvation as long as people look forward to a government of by and large mercenaries for solutions instead of reaching out for the community in a spirit of caring, empathy and solidarity.

    As for Mcohen’s quip about Lebanon having a great future, the cynical remark rings true considering how sectarianism has crippled the decision making in Lebanon. Yet, while sectarianism in Lebanon is something that could be solved one day, as long as the Palestinian problem has not been settled, Israel’s outlaw, artificially implanted status will never be solved with her immediate neighbours who can have a far longer breath than Israeli society can ever muster. When the Western main sponsors of Israeli intransigence are knee deep trying to survive the greatest depression to hit them soon, then Israel might have to ponder about the Bronx saying “payback is a bitch”.

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Replies: @mcohen
  16. Cowering offensive lineman-sized babies can certainly use a few Younghoe Koo kicks in the ass, to jumpstart them, finally, into battle against their Jewish occupation.

    First, though, they must give a shit about their village, hood or subdivision.

    How can you care about your village, ’hood, or subdivision if it’s a “diversity” zoo? How can you care about your neighbors when the vast majority of them don’t care that their community—and the country as a whole—has become a barbaric, chaotic, and odious “diversity” zoo? And worse yet, when they will vilify you in the strongest terms for caring? America is just not worth fighting for, and anyone who is stupid enough to think it is ends up being sent to a place like Iraq to fight an Israeli proxy war. America cannot be salvaged. It must ride the “diversity” train all the way to the bottom. Then, someday several generations from now, a White remnant may be able to rebuild some semblance of civilization on this continent, although I wouldn’t count on that. The combination of democracy and “diversity” can wipe out any civilization.

    • Thanks: cronkitsche
    • Replies: @Biff
  17. Americans have long been conditioned to laugh at, and even pay for, their own degradation.

    My god, they practically celebrate it now, and it’s not just the US. I stumbled across this the other day . .

  18. @gar manar nar

    I think I’d rather not watch.

    • Replies: @gar manar nar
  19. I gotta say: I think there’s a meaningful chance Linh will get killed if he goes to Egypt.

    From my point of view, it’ll just be a data point: if Linh emerges unharmed, it suggests something about the world, if he doesn’t, it’ll suggest something else.

    But I wouldn’t do it if I were in his shoes. Mind, I’ll be perfectly happy to be proved wrong — but I just want to be able to tell myself I said something if this plays out badly.

  20. The world will be a better place once the Zionist entity no longer exists.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  21. @Colin Wright

    Here’s a great response from a couple of Norse historians . . worth watching,

    • Replies: @Sirius
  22. Linh Dinh says: • Website
    @Colin Wright

    Hi Colin,

    Though I’m sure Cairo is crawling with Mossad, they’re in Lebanon, too, so they could have shut me up for good, if they wanted to, as I wandered all over Beirut. Burdened with so many sulfuric, Talmudic schemes, why would they bother with a midget gadfly with only a slight Jew tic?

    I mean, even Gilad Atzmon can feel perfectly safe in Jewjacked London, and it’s common knowledge Ron Unz doesn’t have to flinch or duck every two seconds at the Palo Alto Burger King.

    Linh

    • Agree: L.K
  23. @Colin Wright

    Turkey is probably more dangerous in this respect than Egypt, considering the mysterious deaths of foreign journalists. Egypt should be safe enough for a foreign anti-Zionist. After all LD is a writer and not a political activist who could be considered a threat. Still you never know how low those Zionist agents may want to go down their list of priorities for removal – surely not down to everyone who may have expressed anti-semitic views in public.

  24. @Linh Dinh

    ‘Though I’m sure Cairo is crawling with Mossad, they’re in Lebanon, too, so they could have shut me up for good, if they wanted to, as I wandered all over Beirut. Burdened with so many sulfuric, Talmudic schemes, why would they bother with a midget gadfly with only a slight Jew tic?”

    Well…I’ll be happy to see you emerge unscathed. You probably will.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
  25. @Commentator Mike

    To refrain from speaking out or from taking some action for fear of reprisal from our enemy isn’t prudence, it’s a fool’s cowardice. It grants the enemy an effortless victory. It doesn’t soften the hatred that drives the enemy, but strengthens it. And while cowardice may delay death at the hands of the enemy, it makes it more certain, and the life it extends not worth extending.

  26. TKK says:

    Communal life breeds sensitive people. That is why so many poets and martyrs are found among the ranks of the Lebanese, while pornstars and petty thieves are a dime a dozen in the vapid consumerist wasteland of 21st century America

    The cultish romanticized view of Muslims detracts from Linh as an intellectual truth seeker.

    The Turks I lived with in Istanbul and Diyarbakır lived 15 to a house. This did not prevent or tamper their daily scam of aggressively hawking worthless rugs as antique Ottoman treasures. Nor did it stop men from frequenting gay bathhouses in Istanbul and pounding German men and then going home and giving their wives STDs. Or kicking their wives teeth out, if the impulse struck.

    To be sure, having lived in Indonesia and Turkey, and traveled most of the ME, most Muslims don’t sit around navel gazing about their hatred for Jews. It’s laughable.

    Linh’s infatuation with political Islam is boring. It detracts from his powers of observation. To be sure, his seemingly endless supply of Muslims who have nothing to do but engage in smug mutual masturbation over Israel’s satanic nature is dubious, at best.

    Muslims are as equally intolerant as the most Chabad devotee, if not more bloodthirsty. Muslims are the other side of the face of Jews. Both arrogant and delusional that they have a direct line to God.

    Neither have any place in an honorable civilization outside of the dusty pages of theological ravings and madness.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter, utu
    • Troll: Corvinus
    • Replies: @Taxi
    , @Sirius
    , @Alfred
  27. TKK says:
    @Commentator Mike

    There are specific, guaranteed ways to get into trouble in Turkey.

    1) Give sexual or flirtatious attention to a virgin, or another’s man wife, sister, mother or close relative.

    2) Disparage Erdogan, Muhammad or Islam.

    3) Attempt to be a journalist that is not in lock step with Ankara.

    4) Attempt to talk politics with people when you are not Turkish

    Linh’s new Tourette like impulse to constantly harp on Jew hatred – if indulged in a tea shop or hookah bar in Turkey- will result in people avoiding him, reporting him to their local imam/ police or a fight.

    It is foolish to talk politics in Turkey because there is a very real chance you can be jailed or disappeared. Any topic that would result in someone getting “riled up” should be avoided entirely.

    Again, Turks want to make money, eat, smoke, DRINK TEA, have sex and go to Friday prayers and be left alone. You may find some University professors who want to tempt fate and risk arrest, but the man on the street will have *no* interest in discussing anything more controversial than football.

    UNDERSTAND THIS: Linh is doing readers who have never traveled in the ME a disservice bordering on journalistic malpractice to make them think they can walk into a group of Turks, Egyptians, or Jordanians and start up a Coffee Klatch about the horrors of Israel.

    I don’t know if he is actually having these conversations and experiences but if he is- it is an outlier and he is seeking it out.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  28. Dumbo says:
    @Colin Wright

    Linh Dinh is like that “Charlie don’t surf” guy at Apocalypse Now.
    (Or is this anti-vietnamite?)
    He will be alright.

  29. Dumbo says:

    My question to Linh and all the others who suggest and end to Israel is, ok, then, what to do with the Jews (6 million??) who live there now? Disperse them among Arab countries? Take them to the U.S.? “Back to Europe”? Madagascar?? Auschwitz??

    I think the best solution would be that they stay in the Middle East. Maybe a one-state solution, i.e. no longer a “Jewish State” but some kind of compromise. I don’t see how a new diaspora would make things better given the 2000 years of problems it has caused.

  30. Biff says:
    @Ray Caruso

    How can you care about your village, ’hood, or subdivision if it’s a “diversity” zoo?

    The diversity of my old neighborhood never bothered me near as much as the governmental micro-management right down to the last blade of grass by hyper-busybody “Karen’s” that constantly feel the need to remind you of who’s in charge – and they need money, lots and lots of money.

    That would be reason #247 why I left.

  31. mcohen says:
    @Joe Levantine

    joe levantine.

    the problems facing lebanon are simple.no Jews to help lead the way.the crucial 20% are gone.The arab countries that have signed on are going to boom.they will have access to the
    the kind of people whose motto is ” i bring to completion”.

    so yes lebanon has a great future,simply because the South will become an unofficial extension of Israel and it will boom.the rest of the country i am not so sure about it’s future.

  32. J says:

    It is interesting that Linh mentions but fails to elaborate the fact that when Israel retaliated in 2006, her village people had no fear of the IDF but of the Hezbollah, their own militia. In the typical Arab way, South Lebanon protest daily against Israeli occupation (What occupation?) but they know well who is their true enemy.

    • Troll: Joe Levantine, Alfred
  33. Sirius says:
    @gar manar nar

    and @Joe Levantine, @Colin Wright

    Although it seems slightly off-topic discussing Scandinavia, I don’t see what the fuss is about.

    Why not show humility? I’ve been to the Scandinavian countries and I can say these are some of the best run countries in the world with some of the best quality of life (except in wintertime!). Does it serve any useful purpose to brag about it?

    I’ll answer that, and the answer is no.

    There are countries that constantly drumbeat into everyone’s head how “great” we are, how “we’re number 1”, how we’re “the best country in history” or if we go back to WW2, how “we’re the master race”. It never ends well.

    Even the rebuttal (by 2 Norwegians I presume) was fairly humble I would say, but they also took the commercial far too seriously. They argued that many of the points were superficial. Well, of course they were superficial: it’s a 2 minute clip! I don’t think it was meant as a putdown in any way. Basically the clip is exhorting people to travel and to bring back the best of what they experience and oh, isn’t it great to be back home? (Why it’s in English is not clear to me).

    As to the original quote by Linh that was referenced,

    Americans have long been conditioned to laugh at, and even pay for, their own degradation.

    It comes in the context of “Unlike in Israel, Christians are not spat on here [in Lebanon]”. It’s open to interpretation what degradation Linh is referring to, but I would suggest that it has a lot to do with the fundamental disrespect or worse that Israel and Zionists show to Americans constantly and their unwillingness to fight back or even to recognize it. The “paying for it part I interpret as being the subsidizing of the whole Zionist project, without which there could be no “Israel”.

    Remember Rachel Corrie? What did her government do to protect her rights or to demand justice after her murder by Israeli forces? Or the attack on the USS Liberty? Or the Lavon Affair? There are countless other examples, too numerous to mention here.

  34. @Mr. Grey

    Why on Earth would he dislike JEWS?
    It’s not as if they’ve done anything bad, like invading Palestine, killing farmers, maiming teenagers, attacking Lebanon, bombing Syria, assassinating people all over West Asia, interfering with US politics, infesting the UK Labour Party, interfering with children’s education in the US, running Ponzis, murdering US citizens, spying on the US, and doing whatever Jeffrey Epstein and the Maxwells were doing.
    No, why would he dislike JEWS?

    • Replies: @Anon
  35. @gar manar nar

    Thank you. I’ll boycott that airline.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  36. RebelRoy says:

    Linh you are a blessing.I am touched by your words.You inspire us to defend what we may have thought already to far gone.In other words you give us hope,and I thank you.God bless you.In learning about Hezbollah from what you write I can only wish Whites had the gumption to defend themselves so fiercely.Let Hezbollah be a light for us all against the children of Hell,the Jews.And I believe intelligent persons can separate those demon possessed from decent fellow humans like Ron Unz or Gilad Atzmon.We all have good or bad in us and we choose the path.Linh gives us the truth and love to see the right path.And thanks Unz for truly having the best site I have ever had the pleasure of experiencing,I would be lost without it.

    • Agree: Alfred
  37. Alfred says:
    @gar manar nar

    This is pure propaganda.

    I have lived in Oslo and I have traveled all over Norway and Sweden. I have a Norwegian son who is a doctor in Oslo. He told me a long time ago that in parts of Oslo, Pakistanis beat up any homosexuals who try to walk through their area – and it is only a few minutes by foot from Karl Johans gate.

    Around 30 years ago, I was checking in for a flight at Oslo’s old airport. The SAS girl at the counter was stunningly pretty. But she looked Spanish. I asked her how it was so. She told me that she was from Ålesund on the west coast of Norway. That explained it quite well.

    In 1588, the Spanish Armada was sent to invade England. The flee of 130 ships was blown north. Some of it ended in Norway. The local men wanted to kill the Spanish soldiers but their women intervened and protected them. In Norway, the people who live near the sea are healthier than the inbred people in the inland valleys.

    • Replies: @Z-man
    , @Wielgus
  38. Alfred says:
    @Colin Wright

    I think there’s a meaningful chance Linh will get killed if he goes to Egypt

    Nonsense. He is safer in Cairo than in New York or Boston.

  39. @Linh Dinh

    Shalom Dear Linh

    Have a nice and relaxed stay in Cairo.
    As you have guessed, You’re not a threat to us. More of an asset 🙂

  40. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    Extended families ensure no one starves, or goes without shoes.

    What? Why those Lebanese are a bunch of sissies, caring for those who need to be tended to because they’re sick or because they’re hungry or because they need a shelter cause their homeless.

    No real American would feel that way, they’d laugh at their being homeless or hungry or sick. We only worship those with immense wealth, cause that’s what we’re taught to do, make that almighty buck regardless of how many people you have to bulldoze over.

    We’ll go to gladiator contests to watch pampered multimillionaires playing for billionaire owners in a taxpayer financed stadium or forum, shed a tear when they play the national anthem, then sit passively when some Silicon Valley outfit strips away our freedom of speech.

    We’re a hallowed out nation, victimized by Wall Street predators, kiddie diddling DC types and our own laziness & stupidity.

  41. @Dumbo

    Require Israel to give back the Golan Heights and the Gaza Strip, and create an independent Palestine that includes the West Bank and part of Jerusalem.

    But let Israel expel all nonJews from the remaining Israeli territory, with ample compensation to build homes for the expelled Muslims, Christians, and Druze in Palestine, Syria, and Lebanon.

    Palestinians in the new officially independent country of Palestine would control the oil and natural-gas resources under their land, with a substantial but gradually declining minority share of the revenue paid to israel for the first 20 years after independence as part of the bargain.

    https://unctad.org/news/unrealized-potential-palestinian-oil-and-gas-reserves

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  42. @mcohen

    Your doubtless sincere concern for the non-Jews in the northern part of the area is touching.

    • Replies: @mcohen
  43. gotmituns says:
    @gar manar nar

    Americans have long been conditioned to laugh
    ——————————————————-
    Bingo – Just what does everybody laugh at nowadays. It’s like this anymore if you just have a short verbal exchange with a younger person (most everyone nowadays is a younger person to me). It’s like this – Me, I’ll have a cup of coffee please, Answer, ha, ha, ha, milk or cream, ha, ha, ha? Me, Milk please. Answer, ha, ha, ha okay, ha, ha, ha. Them, will there be anything else, ha, ha, ha. Etc., Etc., Etc.

    • Replies: @Craig Nelsen
  44. gotmituns says:

    The last time the israelis tried to attack Lebanon, they got their butts kicked. So they’ll keep to bombing them and not commit ground forces. The israeli grunts aren’t worth a shit.

  45. “On her wall was a mock but life-sized M-16, and two fake pistols, as decorations.”

    You just wait until American grandmothers start putting up similar decorations on their walls and all bets will be off.

  46. @mcohen

    Jews leading in what way exactly? Ultimately they accomplish nothing but destruction of the host.

  47. frankie p says:
    @Sirius

    “It comes in the context of “Unlike in Israel, Christians are not spat on here [in Lebanon]”. It’s open to interpretation what degradation Linh is referring to, but I would suggest…”

    We’ll cut out your suggestion since you don’t seem to know what Linh or you yourself are talking about. Let me tell you about the degradation. Jews in Israel, especially ultra Orthodox and Yeshiva students, spit on Christians, especially clerics, often. They don’t like seeing the cross, and they don’t like seeing Christian religious leaders in Israel, which they believe is for Jews only. EVERY Christian clergyman in Jerusalem has been spit on by Orthodox Jews. If the clergymen are foreigners and they get too aggressive with seeking protection and looking to press charges, they are quietly sent out of the country. The fact that you don’t know this well-known fact speaks to your complete lack of understanding of the facts on the ground in the apartheid State of Israel.

    I pray for its dissolution and reversion to Palestine. I agree with Nasrallah; let the Palestinian Jews stay, and ship the fucking Ash-can-nazis back to Poland. The only thing that scares me is that Uncle Shmuel and the Jewnited States will try to absorb them.

    • Replies: @Sirius
  48. frankie p says:
    @mcohen

    Real move of a cohen,

    Link an opinion article from Israel about how Lebanon’s future requires making nice with Israel.

    Take off the pink-tinted glasses. Israel’s lack of a future will run through Lebanon and Syria.

  49. Quote “I can’t think of anywhere else in the world where people are proud to be so aggressively babied.”

    Yes all because we dumbed down our country to allow black ghetto trash inbred degenerate rap thug culture to accepted as “normal” behavior. So blacks can feel good and are babied from cradle to grave by weak White cuck liberal idiots. Now Biden the groper and Camel Hairs will hasten the demise.

  50. Linh Dinh is writing from the trenches — literally. He can go home again, if he has one. US? Rejected. VN? Perhaps just a memory.

  51. Johann says:
    @Joe Paluka

    Linhs Post Cards from the Edge of America is an excellent description of what America has become. I really enjoy his stories about his stay in Philadelphia where I grew up. He has vividly portrayed the state of Americans who have been shamelessly exploited by their Zionist government. His story of how he came to America as a Vietnamese refugee is thought provoking . The Vietnamese have suffered terribly under the boot of American Imperialism yet Linh is surprisingly sympathetic to the poor American Veterans who were forced marched out of their high schools to Military training camps and then sent tobSoutheast Asia in order to kill and pillage. He shows how that experience totally dehumanized them and he goes to the various VFW clubs where wretched American Vets gather in order to find out what happened to them. He also exposes the underbelly of the soul destroying drug plague that came to America with the broken down GIs. His analysis of the evil American Empire is thought provoking. Some of his opinions are out there but for most part they hit the bullseye. Linh has to be the most perceptive writer to come out of America considering the piles of garbage that are printed in the Empire today.

    • Agree: GMC
  52. @Linh Dinh

    Egypt has the worst cuisine in the Middle East. You’re going to be missing Lebanon sooner than you think Linh.

    • Replies: @Sirius
  53. Taxi says:
    @TKK

    Communal life breeds sensitive people. That is why so many poets and martyrs are found among the ranks of the Lebanese, while pornstars and petty thieves are a dime a dozen in the vapid consumerist wasteland of 21st century America

    Dude, the above quote that you cite and base your whole comment on was penned by a Christian American-Lebanese.

    Care to address this comment again as written by a ‘Christian Lebanese’?

    On second thought, puleeeeeaze don’t – I’m already barfing, choking and overdosing on your unfuckinggbelievable level of stupidity!

    OMFG!!!!

    • Agree: Larchmonter420
  54. Z-man says:
    @Alfred

    He told me a long time ago that in parts of Oslo, Pakistanis beat up any homosexuals who try to walk through their area

    Well that’s at least a good thing. LOL!

    With respect to the original post, yeah pure propaganda, but ‘systemic propaganda’ made for the children, to brainwash them!

  55. Z-man says:

    From the article it seems that Christians and Muslims haven’t completely broken ties, and that’s a good thing.

  56. WJ says:

    The writer is right about this being the dying days of the American experiment. We are babies. If not, there would be an uprising over a paltry 600 dollars for low income people while the Smithsonian gets 1 billion for museums for Latinx, and Israel, that has a superb government health service, get 500 million on top of the 3 billion we have already given them this year. We are babies pacified on porn and corn chips.

  57. @Commentator Mike

    Though I’m sure Cairo is crawling with Mossad, they’re in Lebanon, too, so they could have shut me up for good, if they wanted to, as I wandered all over Beirut. Burdened with so many sulfuric, Talmudic schemes, why would they bother with a midget gadfly with only a slight Jew tic?

    Salam Linh

    Colin is a coward hasbara who missed the gist of your fine writing. Like most American he will go whining about things. You are safe as long as you have the One guarding you.

    Keep up these cheerful articles, so that we can share in your Hope!

    Mohamed

  58. Sirius says:
    @frankie p

    Not that I dispute it, but you state it as if this is the key to understanding the Palestine conflict, especially when not knowing it shows a “complete lack of understanding” of the situation. Seriously? Based on one aspect from thousands or millions of facts? I was just guessing as to what Linh meant.

    You might want to consider when writing what your goal is, to impart information, to get something off your chest or to piss people off, especially those who might actually agree with you that the Zionist entity is an apartheid, illegitimate state.

    • Replies: @frankie p
  59. Sirius says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    Have you been there recently? There are now plenty of excellent Syrian restaurants in Cairo, since many Syrians had to find their future there.

  60. Sirius says:
    @TKK

    Wow, the ignorance is breathtaking. I can’t get over how many people regard the Muslims, a world-wide population of about 1.5 billion people spanning the globe, as some sort of monolith.

    The Turks are about 80 million people, maybe 6% of the overall world Muslim population. Now I would say, based on this insightful comment, you have not enough knowledge to generalize about that 6%, much less than to expand that to the hundreds of ethnic groups that make up “the Muslims”.

    Not to mention, as Taxi pointed out, that the one man you quoted isn’t even Muslim but Christian.

    On another note, I’m pretty sure married men going to gay bathhouses doesn’t conform with Islamic teachings, so perhaps you would want to reevaluate your generalizations?

    It seems to me you just wanted to complain about Turkey. Did you see anything good there?

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @AnonStarter
  61. @Dumbo

    ‘I think the best solution would be that they stay in the Middle East. Maybe a one-state solution, i.e. no longer a “Jewish State” but some kind of compromise. I don’t see how a new diaspora would make things better given the 2000 years of problems it has caused.'

    You’re aware there was no original diaspora? Seriously. It was a canard dreamed up by early Christians. Look it up: the Jews were never expelled from Palestine.

    Zionism amounted to the last and worst excess of European colonialism. That the settlers are still there is no more a justification for continuing the project than it would be reasonable to allow the French to return to Algeria, or the Italians to Libya.

    Happily, forty percent of the Jews in Israel wish they could leave as it is. If we stop subsidizing them, they all will.

    …and they’ll mostly come here, to the US. And that will be fit and just, since we bear more responsibility for their crimes than any other state.

    • Agree: Sirius, Joe Levantine
    • Replies: @Dumbo
    , @Anon
  62. Beautiful & optimist tribute to Lebanon. Thanks and God bless you, Linh. “Go into Egypt…” 🙏

    Will share the article with Lebanese members of my Saint Joseph’s Melkite Catholic Church, but most of the lay-leadership shun my opinion about the Supremacist Israeli Jews.

    • Replies: @Larchmonter420
  63. Dumbo says:
    @Colin Wright

    You’re aware there was no original diaspora? Seriously. It was a canard dreamed up by early Christians. Look it up: the Jews were never expelled from Palestine.

    ???
    I meant, the diaspora after the Romans destroyed their second temple. Either expelled or by choice, many moved away. Where did the Jews in Europe came originally from, if not Ancient Israel? Khazaria?

    Zionism amounted to the last and worst excess of European colonialism.

    So Jews / Israelis are European now? Most WNs seem to disagree with that view…

    That the settlers are still there is no more a justification for continuing the project than it would be reasonable to allow the French to return to Algeria, or the Italians to Libya.

    Since Algerians are currently colonizing France, and Libyans overflowing to Italy, I’d rather France and Italy were still colonizing their lands, instead of them, ours.

    …and they’ll mostly come here, to the US. And that will be fit and just, since we bear more responsibility for their crimes than any other state.

    With that, I guess I agree. Jews seem happy in America and America seems happy with Jews. Even today many Israelis would migrate to the U.S. if they could. Now, what consequences the influx of seven million Jews could have in America is hard to fathom, but since they basically already control Wall Street and Washington and Hollywood, I guess not much would change.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  64. @Sirius

    It’s open to interpretation what degradation Linh is referring to . .

    Actually, the link following his comment explains exactly what he is referring to :

    https://www.unz.com/article/the-war-on-christmas-updated/

  65. @Dumbo

    ‘…Where did the Jews in Europe came originally from, if not Ancient Israel? ‘

    Europe.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
  66. @Sirius

    ‘…It seems to me you just wanted to complain about Turkey. Did you see anything good there?’

    What makes it worse is that my wife and I did spend a month there — and it ranks pretty high on our list of countries we want to visit again. Seeing as how we’ve been to twenty seven countries or something, on every continent but Australia, I think our opinion has a certain modest validity.

    But a month of casual tourism isn’t a basis for passing definitive verdicts — so I won’t start going on about how mighty fine Turks are. However, I didn’t see anything corresponding to what TKK alleges. In fact, I wonder if he actually did.

    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
  67. @RadicalCenter

    ‘… as part of the bargain.’

    There’s the rub. There’s no point in making a bargain with Zionists.

    They never keep their word. That was true in 1920, it was true in 1948, it was true in 1978, and it was true in 1995.

    To date, the only group that has succeeded in negotiating with Israel is Hezbollah. You don’t do it with words.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  68. jimmy1969 says:

    The Lebs in North America have mostly been hard working decent people, many of them tradesmen and the like. They remind me of Italians from generations past all brick layer type people. One difference though is that many Italian girls were real hot and pretty. Leb girls are all short hairy little stumpy fat things and they are known for one thing: they smell. Another difference is that many Leb men have chips on their shoulders …they have that Arab blood and are hot heads and pretend tough guys…but really they are mostly punks and none of them can fight. They are like the Portuguese a shabby looking mixed breed of pe0ple…most of the leb men are short and bald by 30.

    • LOL: Alfred
    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
    , @Jimmy1969
  69. Walter says:

    Recalling the foundational principle that there can be no question of justice except between equals, and noting that the zionist forward operating base established by MI6 in concert with Nazi-collaborating and enabling German Jews is now totally dependent on the suborned US quislings sending money and other services (like Epstein’s whore-house), and bearing in mind the obvious failure of the US, it seems obvious that FOB-zion will also collapse.

    When that happens the retribution will be a world-class blood-bath.

    zionists have done and are doing a vast disservice to Jews, themselves, and everybody else.

    Real collapse is fast. And horrid.

    Avoid schadenfreude. Take no pleasure when it happens. Defend the innocent lives, because everyone knows the guilty will fly away with bags of loot and abandon their coreligionists to the mobs.

    And recall that the orthodox Jews, and many secular Jews, objected to the foundation of Israel due to the overt and obvious nazi-fascist-racist bigotry that state would inject into the middle east.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/albert-einsteins-1948-letter-to-the-new-york-times-comparing-israeli-politicians-to-nazis/5653561

    In a sense what’s happening is an ongoing Jewish civil war in an occupied Palestine. Of course the Arabs in Palestine are in many examples the genetic relations of the zionists – thus civil war, and the American Jews are beginning to understand it this way, as a terrible crime and deeply embarrassing matter.

    It can happen anytime. But the failure of the “big brother” to support the operating base will be the last shoe to drop…

    Like they say, next year…

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  70. @Sirius

    What I see in this commercial is globalism at the service of corporatism at its best. Now I sure loath any nation that calls itself superior or holy for such claimed holiness has proven to be a bane to the human race leading to horrible bloodshed.

    It is every country or community’s right to think it is special through its traditions and history. However, when in the interest of profit some corporation tries to whittle away at a people’s sense of identity by telling them their traditions are all imported from foreign cultures and keeping mum about some of the achievements of the Scandinavian people such as their flare for exploration which made them reach the North American continent centuries before Columbus discovered Central America, and their myriad skills at surviving in one of the most inhospitable lands of the planet to produce far more than the Inuit culture could produce as evidenced by their industrial and artistic achievements, I feel this is taking commercialism a bit too far.

    I am in no position to judge if there is an intended subliminal message to push the agenda of globalism here, but with the way all aspects of our lives are being influenced by the PTB and their relentless push for syncretism in the interest of a fully centralised system of governance, I do not rule out some wicked attempt by the makers of the advertisement at the service of the globalist cause.

  71. @Colin Wright

    I tried doing business with them a few times and the memory of it gets me sick to my stomach. Hence, I always delegate any business with Turkey to my business partners. Though I admit that the Turk’s sense of hospitality is wonderful.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  72. Ah Lihn Dihn
    You now see what history hides
    Like your own country bombed and raped from the same who hides
    The Knights Templar they say are heroes of the past
    But in reality
    They’re the same who bombs and rapes now
    Freemasons are the scourge of humanity that dosn’t wants peace
    Only to pretend to be the right side of humanities rite
    Only in disguise like the Knights Templar past
    The Freemason bombs rapes and kills with ease
    Only who are admitted to .gov shills
    Are yesterday’s Templar and today’s Freemason that kills

    God bless

  73. Anon[274] • Disclaimer says:
    @Badger Down

    Why on Earth would he dislike JEWS?
    It’s not as if they’ve done anything bad, like invading Palestine…….

    Strange that he doesn’t dislike indonesia. They invaded and occupy west papua and have killed 20x more civilians than israel has.

    He also doesn’t dislike turkey who invaded and occupy cyprus . Invaded / bombed syria , occupy kurdistan etc.

    Doesn’t dislike iran who starts proxy wars in lebanon,syria , yemen. Attacks oil infrastructure in saudi arabia, bombs jewish civilians in argentina etc.

    No prob with Russia, occupying dagestan,chechnya , kaliningrad, crimea , killing 10% of the population of chechnya etc

    The list goes on

    • Replies: @Badger Down
  74. Mediastan says:

    Linh’s reports are always so cutting and yet heartfelt, compassionate and targeted. I find comments add very little to the impact of his writing. We are bot discussing so much as agreeing or arguing in an echo of his clarity. I might only add the poetic myself, as I am no reading Thomas Merton’s Raid on the Unspeakable, a 1965 collection of anti-war essays. The passage I am pondering just might contribute to his story:

    “You are not so much concerned with ethical principles and traditional answers to traditional questions, for many men have decided no longer to ask themselves these questions. Your main interest is not in formal answers or accurate definitions, but in difficult insights at a moment of human crisis. Such insights can hardly be either comforting or well defined: they are obscure and ironic. They cannot be translated into a program for solving all the problems of society, but they may perhaps enable a rare person here and there to come alive and be awake at a moment when wakefulness is desirable—a moment of ultimate choice, in which he finds himself challenged in the roots of his own existence. You have considered the critical challenge of the hour, that of dehumanization, and have dealt with it.”

  75. @Joe Levantine

    ‘I tried doing business with them a few times and the memory of it gets me sick to my stomach…’

    I may regret it, but I’ll bite. What happened?

    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
  76. Anon[274] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    French to return to Algeria, or the Italians to Libya

    The current arab occupiers in Libya and algeria are not natives. Arabs are from arabia , a thousand miles away. Where should these invaders go ?, by your own moral arguments Arab invaders/ occupiers originally from arabia don’t belong in morocco, western sahara , mauritania,Libya,algeria , tunisia or egypt. If you have any consistency to your own arguments, that is.

  77. Anon[182] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sirius

    Unlike in Israel, Christians are not spat on here [in Lebanon]”.

    In 15 Islamic countries including Iran and Pakistan, converting from Islam to Christianity is illegal and punishable by death. This is not worth mention by linh , but possible anecdotal accounts of spitting are far worse anyway.

    Remember Rachel Corrie?

    The useful idiot that got in the way of a bulldozer in deference to some Muslim family that wouldn’t lift a finger to help her kind if the situation was reversed ? Darwin award .

  78. @jimmy1969

    Well Jimmy, are you sure you can locate Lebanon on the world’s map?

    • Replies: @L.K
  79. Cato says:

    Linh, always got a lot out of your posts. But this anti-Semitism thing… Jews are people just like you and me, not monsters puppet-mastering everything. You seem to listen to the Arab street just a little bit too well.

    • Disagree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Oscar Peterson
  80. Ah Lihn Dihn

    I knew some freemason
    They’re all the same
    Like history past
    They’re nothing but Knights in dull armor who claim
    Who wants to murder rape kill
    Like history past
    They have no conscience still now
    But
    Like their shadow ghost
    Who has doubts
    But their ghost will never show
    Until they’re dead
    Not knowing the dread
    They caused the living to say why
    The Freemason must die
    Like the murderous rapist Templar past

    You know it, I know it, so stop pretending
    God Bless and happy new year Lihn, stay out of Israel, your reporting will reveal the lie. They hate the truth. The jews are a kanker sore on society. Only if our people would awake

  81. aspnaz says:

    Great article, it cuts to the core of the problem: many people, maybe most in the west, will not fight for what they believe in, whether that be principles, beliefs or family.

    The west requires a renewal before it can rise again to be great again. Renewal will involve pain and the eradication of much western thinking. The renewal will need to transform both the rich and poor: the rich will have to become leaders, the poor will have to become energised and commited to a common goal driven by their leaders.

    Economic demise is what is driving the Covid/WEF/authoritarian movement in the west, that demise is the result of having run out of common goals to motivate the people. The powerful have been fighting each other rather than driving towards a common goal: moving US manufacturing to China illustrates how money has become more important than “Made in the USA”. Money is more important than nationalism, so the nation dies.

    Seeing that imminent death of the nation, the powerful are erecting protective fences around themselves by exerting excessive control over the majority. They live in fear of revolution as the economic malaise starts to bite and people become desperate. Their aim may be honourable, as in it may be for personal and family protection, but unfortunately the means are not honourable: the rich never use honourable means except in the history books.

  82. frankie p says:
    @Sirius

    Yes, I did come down too hard on you. Mea culpa.

    You should, however, look into facts before you make guesses. I have looked at your comments, and you seem to be informed on many aspects of the I/P conflict. It’s surprising that you were unaware of the spitting on Christian clergymen.

    Be well, Sirius.

    • Replies: @Sirius
  83. @Cato

    “Linh, always got a lot out of your posts. But this anti-Semitism thing… Jews are people just like you and me, not monsters puppet-mastering everything.”

    Spare us the nebulous complaints. What specifically do you disagree with in LD’s piece?

    • Replies: @Cato
    , @Anon
  84. Anonymous[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @Walter

    Yep.

    Don’t you love it when people realize that reality is a bitch? The Problem of Pain, and they act like they’ve discovered it. These same idiots say “You are responsible, so I deserve absolute power”.

    On the bright side, they are talking, not shooting, which makes them much easier targets.

    • Replies: @Walter
  85. Cato says:
    @Oscar Peterson

    Cowering offensive lineman-sized babies can certainly use a few Younghoe Koo kicks in the ass, to jumpstart them, finally, into battle against their Jewish occupation.

  86. Anon[274] • Disclaimer says:
    @Oscar Peterson

    I disagree that everywhere he goes he runs into an unending supply of vocal anti semites eager to discuss their hatred of jews with strangers. All these people are mere literary devices.

  87. @gotmituns

    It’s like this – Me, I’ll have a cup of coffee please, Answer, ha, ha, ha, milk or cream, ha, ha, ha? Me, Milk please. Answer, ha, ha, ha okay, ha, ha, ha. Them, will there be anything else, ha, ha, ha. Etc., Etc., Etc.

    Maybe you were in a hardware store.

    • LOL: RadicalCenter
  88. @Anon

    You say “israel” is as bad as Turkey?
    That’s antisemitic!

  89. Actually I was saying

    turki-. ( 80,000 killed in occupied Kurdistan and Cyprus.)
    indonesia—(500,000 killed in occupied West Papua. )
    russia
    iran

    Are all far far worse than Israel.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Sirius
  90. @Fat greasy bug eyed dwarf

    ‘…Are all far far worse than Israel.’

    And how much money do we give to each of them?

    • Thanks: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Anon
  91. HalconHigh says: • Website

    Felt some anger & frustration in your writing, Linh.

    Be patient, the USA can’t even dismantle itself properly lol

    ps…I have Younghoe Koo on my fantasy team.

  92. Alfred says:
    @TKK

    The Turks I lived with in Istanbul and Diyarbakır lived 15 to a house

    How exactly do these Turks relate to the Lebanese? There is absolutely no connection.

    Nor did it stop men from frequenting gay bathhouses in Istanbul and pounding German men.

    It may have escaped your notice, but in all of the Mediterranean plus the Middle East, the guy doing the pounding is not considered to be homosexual. As for Germans at the receiving end of the pounding, it is another matter.

    Did any of these Turks of yours allow a German to pound them? 🙂

    • Replies: @Dumbo
  93. Walter says:
    @Anonymous

    I remember the song! Many thanks.

    Foster Dulles’ Calvinist “ethos” seem objectively aligned with both the nazi-fascist and Jewish-fascist ethos. This ethos also seems to be present in the “character” of the female anointed to rule as soon as Mr 10% exits, albeit in a distorted or derivative way…”if you’re against us you are a “racist” and therefore not entitled to speak, or live” is not very far from the Foster and Allen attitudes.

    Kinzer’s “The Brothers” is, if you can put up with the errors and lies, worth reading. He either misstates of ignores small matters, such as Nixon being the POC running the anti-Castro stuff, and the germ-war against China and Korea – little things either brushed away or simply lied about. Nevertheless worth reading, especially between the lines.

    I also, and with fewer caveats, recommend Devil’s Chessboard (Talbot).

    Jeffery Kaye (see medium and twitter) nailed the germ war as indesputable fact. That program began in 1941 (according to Merck Report from ’46) on an industrial scale, and went active 01 January 1952 in Korea using “forgiven” Japanese boffins (war criminals of the worst sort).

    Speaking of germ war. 2 remarks. (1) No definitive ending date can be discovered for this program. and (2) The Chinese understood what happened @ Wuhan immediately, it was not their first rodeo.

  94. @Sirius

    As someone who has worked, studied and lived in and among Turks in Turkey for a good stretch of time, I’ve tried to engage TKK in dialogue whenever any positive mention of Muslims or Turks happens to drop him groundward like a pound of mercury fulminate.

    He never responds, which is hardly surprising given the demonstrable myopia with which he approaches the subjects.

    Too bad. For him, that is.

    • Replies: @Sirius
  95. @Colin Wright

    Basically, not one of them was true to his word. The material bought was nothing like what was agreed. The losses were humongous. Finally the matter of further dealings was settled on the principle that no merchandise would be paid unless sent on consignment, thoroughly inspected and payment is subsequently done if the quality is as agreed or otherwise the supplier is asked to remove his material from our yard.

    • Thanks: Colin Wright
  96. mcohen says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Yes,especially the border with turkey.northern lebanon will eventually break away from the country with tripoli its capital.its a shame really,especially after what lebanon has endured these past few years.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  97. Anon[395] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    The previous administration gave Iran 150 billion. Indonesia gets around 700-900 million in us aid. Turkey gets 180 million in us aid.

    • Replies: @Munkin-4
  98. @ChuckOrloski

    Beautiful & optimist tribute to Lebanon. Thanks and God bless you, Linh. “Go into Egypt…”

    Excellent advice to Linh. Yes to Egypt and no to\ only Cairo.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  99. @Larchmonter420

    Yo Larchmonter!

    Speaking respectfully, Linh does not go anywhere as a tourist.

    Reckon he will visit & photograph Cairo slums and street people smoking hashish.
    Without significant connections, it was hard to find good jobs there. Subsequently, Egyptians were silently encouraged (by their government) to partake hashish, because, while stoned, they would not riot.

    Lastly, in January 1981, as tourist, I went to Luxor, the ancient city of Thebes. Saw relics of Alexander The Great’s occupation and the Valley of Queens and Kings. Is about hour flight from Cairo and I will be surprised, not disappointed, if Linh goes to Upper Egypt, Luxor.

    Fyi, in November 1997, a terror attack killed 60 people at the Temple of Hatshepsut, and when I look at this video development, I recall how I marvelled at International archaeological recovery efforts of ancient artifacts.

    Asalaam aleikum, Larchmonter.

    • Thanks: Larchmonter420
    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  100. I have been having problem with jews and their yes-man for a long time, and I tried to pass as much information I could about them on 4chan during years.
    It’s hard to see them being really defeated from what I’ve learned so far, it requires a level of honesty and understanding most people are very far from achieving and they know it.

  101. Munkin-4 says:
    @Anon

    ‘The previous administration gave Iran 150 billion.’

    Anon395 is clearly another anon liar.

    The US admin. didn’t ‘give’ Iran that money — it was Iran’s money to begin with. Zionists lie with no hesitation…

  102. Sirius says:
    @frankie p

    Thanks.

    The abuses in occupied Palestine/occupied southern Syria are so numerous and have been going on so long one can be forgiven if missing a fact here or there. Eventually there is information overload.

    But the points I brought up are still valid and far worse than spitting, although it’s still quite revolting.

    Be well also, Frankie P.

  103. Sirius says:
    @AnonStarter

    True, but the myopia extends far beyond him. Many people in western countries see “Muslims” as one big group, all 1.5 billion, for which they make all kinds of generalizations. Since 9/11/2001 the generalizations have been almost uniformly negative. The propaganda has been relentless, for reasons you are probably aware.

  104. Sirius says:
    @Fat greasy bug eyed dwarf

    Are all far far worse than Israel.

    No they’re not. None of them represent a colonizing movement that within a generation destroyed a society and emptied out 90% of the population of the area they occupied. That is what happened to Palestine in 1947-49 and continued (the emptying out or “ethnic cleansing”) on a more gradual basis ever since, even today.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @AaronB
  105. We should never forget are murderous past
    The Freemason tells all like it will last

  106. …letting us little people die
    They don’t give a fuck ’bout you and I
    Just to fight their ‘ole political jesuit templar freemason lies

  107. @Sirius

    ‘…Are all far far worse than Israel.

    No they’re not. None of them represent a colonizing movement that within a generation destroyed a society and emptied out 90% of the population of the area they occupied. That is what happened to Palestine in 1947-49 and continued (the emptying out or “ethnic cleansing”) on a more gradual basis ever since, even today.’

    Indeed. And there are other reasons too.

    But it just gets old. Proving Israel is indefensible gets to be like proving infant rape is wrong. It’s easy – but it gets tedious.

    But sigh. Once more into the breach. To my mind, the central point is that in almost any time line, no matter what we did, Burma or whoever would still be there. We didn’t cause it to come into being.

    We did cause Israel. Absent vigorous and insistent US support, it’s unlikely it would have come into being, or having come into being, would have endured. We could make it vanish today — just pull the plug.

    Not so with Burma. The distinction is like that between teenage boys in general, and my teenage son in particular. Other teenage boys may be out there stealing cars or robbing houses. That’s regrettable.

    If my son is one of them, it’s incumbent on me to do something about it. Ditto for Israel. Without us, her crimes couldn’t happen. They’re our responsibility.

  108. Dumbo says:
    @Colin Wright

    No they didn’t. They were somewhere else before they wound up in Poland and Russia. Either Turkey (Khazar theory) or the Middle East!

    It’s like saying the gypsies are “European” because they have been living there for centuries.

    (Of course, Jews mixed a bit with Europeans, but so did gypsies (I guess – who would have sex with a gypsy is anyone’s guess, but they kidnapped European babies too).

  109. Dumbo says:
    @Alfred

    It may have escaped your notice, but in all of the Mediterranean plus the Middle East, the guy doing the pounding is not considered to be homosexual.

    I think this is true only of Arabs, Armenians, Turks and maybe Greeks (can’t abandon tradition, gnome sayin’). Not that I would know or even been to those parts of the world, but it’s the stereotype.

    Also, I’ve known of a few Arabs and Turks in Europe who became flaming gay once they were free in the West (or were always gay and just had more excuses to do it).

    A lot of homosexuals in Israel too, by the way. It could be something in the water in the region.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  110. Sirius says:
    @Dumbo

    It’s like saying the gypsies are “European” because they have been living there for centuries.

    No it isn’t. One can convert to Judaism. You cannot convert to being a Roma or a Sinti (the preferred nomenclature). And anyway Colin Wright’s point that there was no exodus from Palestine is correct.

  111. @Dumbo

    ‘No they didn’t. They were somewhere else before they wound up in Poland and Russia. Either Turkey (Khazar theory) or the Middle East!’

    You could look at them. Netanyahu looks above all, like a gentile Pole. The Tunisian Jew Jishai looks just like…wait for it…a gentile Tunisian. That Yemeni Jewish murderer looks…Yemeni!

    The various Jewish populations may or may not be related to each other — but they are above all related to the gentile populations among whom they lived.

    Go figure. If you want to read the additional evidence on this point, get a copy of Shlomo Sand’s The Invention of the Jewish People.’ Jews are no more a race than Catholics are — and equally to the point, they’ve no more title to Palestine than you or I do.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
  112. AaronB says:
    @Sirius

    None of them represent a colonizing movement that within a generation destroyed a society and emptied out 90% of the population of the area they occupied.

    Not sure how thats possible. Colin Wright established the principle that colonization does not displace the local population – when the Muslims colonized the region, apparently the local Jews and Christians merely converted.

    Clearly, then, the majority of today’s Israelis are really the original inhabitants of the land who just reconverted to Judaism.

    Because we know colonization never creates an exodus.

    • Replies: @Sirius
  113. Dumbo says:
    @Colin Wright

    OK. Maybe… I don’t know, I didn’t study the genetic origins of Jewish people… However for a people that is “just a religion” they look more similar among themselves than, say, Catholics (in particular the ashkenazi – I know that there are other Jews, Persian Jews, etc, who a bit look different. I actually met a Persian Jew who was very pretty and didn’t look “Jewish”, certainly not ashkenazi.

    Now I am not saying that Jews are a race, but their heritage is partially hereditary/genetic as well (and not just cultural).

    But that creates another question, if there’s no genetic common heritage, if it’s “just a religion”, what explains their ethnocentrism? Just culture? I find that hard to believe.

    Finally, the idea of Israel was to have a country for a people that didn’t have a country. It seemed like a sensible idea at the time (maybe not so much now). Still, why shouldn’t they be entitled to live in their own country, in a region where historically many Jewish people lived? (Palestine). I mean, it’s not even Arab/Muslim originally, Palestine saw lots of changes in population, also Babylonian, Roman, Turkish, British and Arab occupations. And Jews were there all this time (maybe some of the Muslim or Christian in Palestine today descend from some of those Jews who converted).

    I don’t know, I don’t see (in theory) that Israel should be such a big problem. If it wasn’t for Muslims not wanting it there. And for Jews lately using it as a base for disrupting the whole region for their own purposes.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  114. Alfred says:
    @Dumbo

    Not that I would know or even been to those parts of the world, but it’s the stereotype.

    Well that explains why you know so little about the Spanish, the French and the Italians who are north of the Mediterranean. 🙂

    BTW, this is not something recent. It has nothing to do with the gay movement. It has always been the case. The Turks bought Slavs who were captured or enslaved by their Jewish moneylenders. The boys were castrated and used for pleasure.

    Long-Term Consequences of Castration in Men: Lessons from the Skoptzy and the Eunuchs of the Chinese and Ottoman Courts

  115. @Dumbo

    ‘…I guess – who would have sex with a gypsy is anyone’s guess…’

    Old song tune: ‘Come to me, little gypsy sweetheart…’

    Obviously, the idea appealed to somebody.

  116. @Dumbo

    ‘…Finally, the idea of Israel was to have a country for a people that didn’t have a country. It seemed like a sensible idea at the time (maybe not so much now)…’

    Well, one, the original idea wasn’t to have a country. When the Allied Powers at Versailles agreed to a ‘Jewish National Homeland’ in Palestine, Chaim Weizmann assured all and sundry that a ‘Jewish National Homeland’ would be taken to mean an independent state.

    No sir. Some schools, a newspaper, agricultural cooperatives…something like what the Mormons, have, for example.

    Two, it wasn’t as if the land was empty. Palestine was already nicely populated with Palestinians, thank you.

    Three, lots of identifiable groups don’t have their own country. Mormons, the Bahai, Basques, the Rohingya, Sikhs, Catalans, Bretons…the list goes on and on. Why should the Jews be uniquely entitled to their own land? A land that was already taken, no less.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Wander
  117. @Colin Wright

    ‘…would be taken to mean an independent state…’

    Oh dear. For ‘would’ read ‘…would never….’

  118. Sirius says:
    @AaronB

    the principle that colonization does not displace the local population

    Sophistry. There is no such principle and you’re playing with words (whether Colin Wright said it or not is for him to address). With Zionism the goal was always to remove the local population. You can read it in Herzl’s writings as early as the 1890s or Ben-Gurion’s pronouncements in the 1930s.

    Naeim Gilad was an Iraqi Jew who immigrated to Palestine from Iraq in 1947 but very quickly became disillusioned with Zionism especially as he found the Ashkenazis were discriminatory even to him as an Arab Jew. He later became a vocal anti-Zionist emigrating to New York. He was rare amongst Jews from Arab countries in that he witnessed the events of 1947-49, writing:

    And I began to find out about the barbaric methods used to rid the fledgling state of as many Palestinians as possible. The world recoils today at the thought of bacteriological warfare, but Israel was probably the first to actually use it in the Middle East. In the 1948 war, Jewish forces would empty Arab villages of their populations, often by threats, sometimes by just gunning down a half-dozen unarmed Arabs as examples to the rest. To make sure the Arabs couldn’t return to make a fresh life for themselves in these villages, the Israelis put typhus and dysentery bacteria into the water wells.

    Giladi refers to Uri Mileshtin, an Israeli historian, an official historian of the Israeli army (IDF) no less, writing and speaking of the use of bacteriological agents.

    http://www.inminds.co.uk/jews-of-iraq.html

    Furthermore, some Palestinians didn’t resist initially in 1947-49 because they didn’t realize that their Jewish neighbors planned to expel as many of them as possible. They thought it was just another invader who would let them continue with their lives cultivating the land, as the British and the Turks had done.

    A good example is Deir Yassin, whose village leadership made a deal with the Jewish leadership in Palestine to stay neutral in the fighting. On April 9, 1948 which was still during the British “mandate”, the village was attacked and everyone was massacred or expelled. The village does not exist today, completely erased. This as the Zionists, now the “Israelis”, wish to do with all of Palestine eventually. It is by no means an exception as no less than 400 villages were erased by the Zionists.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_towns_and_villages_depopulated_during_the_1948_Palestinian_exodus

    Does that sound like conversion to you?

    • Thanks: Alfred, Joe Levantine
    • Replies: @AaronB
  119. Thank you Linh. I always appreciate your efforts.
    I hope you have a really nice celebration.
    Only one 2020.
    I love you, Linh.
    Peace

  120. AaronB says:
    @Sirius

    Well, it has to be that the locals converted to Judaism.

    We know invasions don’t displace former inhabitants. We know that when the Arabs conquered Palestine the locals all converted to Islam even without there being any historical record of it. We can only know it without historical record because its some kind of basic principle that Colin Wright discovered, and that you agreed to.

    Therefore the Jewish conquest of modern Israel can’t have led to an exodus of former inhabitants. The historical record cannot tell us anything- its a matter of a basic historical principle discovered by Colin Wright, with your agreement.

    • Replies: @Sirius
  121. @mcohen

    Du bist eine Schande. Oder soll ich sagen, IHR seid eine Schande. See ya, bubela.

  122. @ChuckOrloski

    In california, í might riot over the hashish PRICES.

    • LOL: ChuckOrloski
  123. @Dumbo

    Ashkenayi jews mixed far more than a little bit with white europeans. This study reports that ashkenazim are forty percent italian on average, coming from their maternal line.

    I dońt think there is much coupling between white european peoples and gypsies. For once the europeans show some common sense and standards.

  124. @TKK

    TKK

    Linh’s new Tourette like impulse to constantly harp on Jew hatred – if indulged in a tea shop or hookah bar in Turkey- will result in people avoiding him, reporting him to their local imam/ police or a fight.

    I find that hard to believe although I’m not as familiar with Turkey as you seem to be. To make offhand disparaging comments about Jews is perfectly acceptable in Egypt and other Arab countries and locals do it all the time. Granted if as a foreigner you carried about it all the time they may think you are odd but I doubt anybody would report you and if they did the authorities couldn’t care less. The important thing is not to involve yourself in local politics. I’d think it’s much the same in most Muslim countries although they may be less anti-Semitic than the Arabs the further away they are. You’re more likely to get beaten up and reported to the local imam if you kept praising Israel and flashing the star of David around.

    • Replies: @AnonStarter
  125. ‘Linh’s new Tourette like impulse to constantly harp on Jew hatred – if indulged in a tea shop or hookah bar in Turkey- will result in people avoiding him, reporting him to their local imam/ police or a fight.’

    ‘I find that hard to believe although I’m not as familiar with Turkey as you seem to be…’

    Particularly in Turkey and particularly since the rise of Erdogan, it is hard to believe. Just look up trailers for the Turkish ‘Valley of the Wolves’ franchise. Certainly anti-Israel and anti-Zionist sentiment is perfectly acceptable.

    • Agree: Wielgus
    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
    , @Wielgus
  126. @Colin Wright

    ‘Valley of the Wolves’ – great TV series and movie franchise; there’s a brilliant one where these Turkish special agents shoot up all of Israel, sort of do a Rambo on the IDF, as revenge for their inhumanity. Some of the TV episodes explore the links between Freemasons, intelligence agencies and crime organisations and how they all link up to influence local politics and regional geopolitics.

    And consider that Israelis killed some unarmed Turkish charity workers on a ship bringing humanitarian aid to Gaza.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  127. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    I have seen Turkish translations of Mein Kampf and the Protocols on shelves in Turkish bookshops. You can get in trouble for statements on a wide range of things in Turkey, but not for anti-Semitism.
    It cannot always be taken at face value. When diplomatic relations were interrupted, commercial relations were not and Turkish trade with Israel actually increased.

  128. Sirius says:
    @AaronB

    Actually, the European Jews who settled initially the southern (historic) Syrian provinces under the Ottomans and later Palestine under the British after 1918 did a good job of converting themselves. Perhaps you can explain to me why around 90% of them changed their family names.

    Why did David Grün become David Ben-Gurion, or Yitzhak Yezernitzky to Yitzhak Shamir, or Szymon Perski to Shimon Peres or Benzion Mileikowsky (Benjamin’s father) to Netanyahu and on and on. It’s one thing to have a stage name if you’re an actor or performer, but when a whole population does this? You change your name and suddenly a European Jew becomes a Hebrew? It seems to me there’s an element of fraud here, like the whole Zionist enterprise.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @AaronB
  129. @Commentator Mike

    I find that hard to believe

    You’re correct in that.

    It may be that a foreigner who can’t be trusted arouses suspicion by excessive talk about the topic, but in general, Turks are much like the Arabs you describe.

    It’s all about trust. Cultivate trust and you’ll know what others really feel. Otherwise, you’re always outside the loop.

    • Agree: Polemos
    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  130. @Commentator Mike

    ‘…And consider that Israelis killed some unarmed Turkish charity workers on a ship bringing humanitarian aid to Gaza.’

    One of them was born in America — but that was cool, apparently.

    …reading the Wikipedia page on it is morbidly humorous. If you’ve any doubts about who controls Wikipedia, that’ll put ’em to rest.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  131. @Sirius

    ‘…It seems to me there’s an element of fraud here, like the whole Zionist enterprise.’

    I’d be inclined to be strictly fair and call it an ‘element of wishful thinking’ — it’s only fraud if you don’t believe your own bullshit. But yeah. Poles, etc of the Mosaic faith descending on Palestine on account of a lot of nonsense.

    They were a band of deluded quacks. Absent subsequent historical events, it all would have most deservedly petered out on account of its inherent absurdities.

    Instead, here we are.

  132. Wielgus says:
    @Alfred

    I do not know much about Norway but I think a certain Mediterranean look found in particular among many Irish, Scots and Welsh was there long before 1588 and has nothing to do with the Armada. It might be a physical type present among Celts. Spaniards (by no means all that swarthy in appearance anyway) were pretty much killed on sight either by Irish or by English soldiers worried they might establish themselves.
    I am unaware of Armada ships running aground in Norway.

  133. @Colin Wright

    Yes the wikipedia report is hilarious and so much of it doesn’t make sense or add up. By “unarmed” I meant without firearms but I suppose picking up anything lying around could be considered getting weaponised.

  134. @AnonStarter

    I find many of TKK’s posts, especially about his experiences as a US lawyer, informative and interesting but some of the accounts of his travels seem unreliable. He claims that he hasn’t travelled as a common tourist but actually stayed with local families, and one would expect that this would have given him a better picture of places and societies he visited. Perhaps it depends on who he stayed with and this may have narrowed rather than broadened his experience and led to some of his unrepresentative claims.

    • Replies: @AnonStarter
  135. @Wielgus

    ‘I do not know much about Norway but I think a certain Mediterranean look found in particular among many Irish, Scots and Welsh was there long before 1588 and has nothing to do with the Armada. It might be a physical type present among Celts. Spaniards (by no means all that swarthy in appearance anyway) were pretty much killed on sight either by Irish or by English soldiers worried they might establish themselves.
    I am unaware of Armada ships running aground in Norway.’

    The theory I’ve read — in a book by some academic but long ago — is that these dark types represent the genetic remnants of the pre-Celtic population. There would have been some interbreeding, and every so often the dark, relatively short type pops up.

    …statistically, how many Spanish sailors could (a) have been shipwrecked, (b) survived, and (c) managed to somehow ingratiate themselves with the local population? Forty two?

    Obviously, not enough to make much of a genetic contribution.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  136. @Commentator Mike

    I find many of TKK’s posts, especially about his experiences as a US lawyer, informative and interesting

    Yes, I do as well.

    Perhaps it depends on who he stayed with and this may have narrowed rather than broadened his experience and led to some of his unrepresentative claims.

    I think this is more likely the case.

    I mean, comparing it to my own experience, the portrait is alien. In spite of the occasional drunken brawl that I’d hear from a nearby casino, I felt safe walking the streets of Laleli (central to old Istanbul) alone at 2AM where I’d never feel the same in any major American metropolis. The company I kept made a big difference.

  137. AaronB says:
    @Sirius

    Those names were artificial names forced upon them by European governments. When they returned to their native land they naturally resumed their authentic names.

    Most Israelis today are clearly descended from the local people who lived there before 1948, who converted to Judaism.

    After every invasion, the local population just converts to the religion of the dominant power, and there is never any exodus.

    Noted historian and anthropologist Colin Wright has discovered this as an iron law of history.

    • Troll: L.K, Alfred
    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
    , @Sirius
  138. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    Certainly not enough to make much of a genetic difference.

  139. @AaronB

    Most Israelis today are clearly descended from the local people who lived there before 1948, who converted to Judaism.

    After every invasion, the local population just converts to the religion of the dominant power, and there is never any exodus.

    Can you show evidence of large numbers of local Muslim and Christian Palestinians converting to Judaism, the religion of the dominant power, after the Jewish invasion and takeover in 1948? But yes there was no exodus, the Palestinians were driven off their land by force.

    Now you may be referring to something that happened a long time before 1948. But then for more than a millennium that land was under Muslim control, and before that under Christian Byzantine and pagan Roman control. I’m not clear what you’re trying to say in this comment.

  140. Sirius says:
    @AaronB

    When did European governments ever force Jews to have “artificial names”. So Tsarist Russia forced Jews to have German or Polish names? That seems highly implausible. Do you have any proof of this? Even a single instance?

    Leon Trotsky’s birth name for example, was Lev Davidovitch Bronstein: a Russian Jew with a German-sounding last name. Did some German government force one of his ancestors to change from some Hebrew name? In fact many Jewish Russians had German-sounding last names probably because they were Yiddish names, and they had a naturally evolved language, Yiddish.

    Ancient Hebrew was a liturgical language that had to be revived as a secular day-t0-day language to be put into regular use as Modern Hebrew. Hebrew wasn’t spoken as a common language even during Roman times or during the time of Jesus; it was Aramaic.

    Indeed the originator of Modern Hebrew, Eliezer Ben Yehuda, born Eliezer Yitzhak Perlman in Tsarist Russia (incredibly, with another German-sounding name), taught his son Hebrew when no one around could actually speak Hebrew. Perlman immigrated to Jerusalem in 1881 when it was part of Ottoman Syria and changed his name, arguably starting that trend in name-changing. He certainly started a trend in teaching and learning Modern Hebrew.

    I’m giving you actual facts with people and names, not platitudes. Where are your facts supporting the imposition of European names on European Jews? To simply claim that European governments imposed these names is to deny more than a millennium of European Jewish culture.

    Check the history and judge for yourself which one is the more “artificial” (your word, not mine).

  141. Wander says:
    @Colin Wright

    Dear, the objective of creating the state of Israel was never religious or race, it was so that the Jews could have an official ARMY, bombs, weapons, satellite and so on. See the main controversy of the creation of the two states and do not let Palestine have an army! “Terrosist groups” are communities that cannot have an official army. Which other religious group has an official army?

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  142. @Wander

    And a place for Jewish criminals to escape and retire to, as well as to run their international criminal operations from.

  143. Wander says:

    Things that are not disclosed in the press https://www.voltairenet.org/article211872.html

    Who is destroying Lebanon and Why

  144. L.K says:
    @Joe Levantine

    JoeLevantine to TROLL jimmy1969

    Well Jimmy, are you sure you can locate Lebanon on the world’s map?

    LOL
    Nailed it.
    The moment I finished reading – wasting my time with jimmy1969’s troll comment – I knew this prick does not have a clue about Lebanese people at all.

    • Thanks: Joe Levantine
  145. Alfred says:
    @Wielgus

    In very bad weather with a strong headwind, running short of supplies, and leaking, Santiago finally turned east and ran with the wind toward Norway (Ødegaard 2001: 29). They made landfall on 18 September 1588 near Skudeneshavn (Ødegaard 2001: 34) and picked up a local man who agreed to guide them north to Bergen. As they sailed up the coast, they encountered another strong storm. Leaking badly, they turned into Hardanger Fjord and wrecked near Mosterhamn (Ødegaard 2001: 34).

    Everyone survived the wreck (Ødegaard 2001: 34). After a few months stay at several locations in the Bergen area, most of the crew sailed on a German ship toward Hamburg but wrecked again near Halmstad, Sweden (Ødegaard 2001: 19). They then traveled mostly overland to Buxtehude, a town near Hamburg, where they asked to be released to find their own way home (Ødegaard 2001: 39).

    Santiago (1551 ship)

    There 120 people on board. I suspect that this case was documented because some of these people got back to Spain. I doubt if Norway’s fishermen at that time did much record keeping.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  146. Wielgus says:
    @Alfred

    Interesting, thanks.
    Armada sailors were trying to steer as far west as possible, to get out into the Atlantic as far west of Scotland and Ireland as possible so as not to be wrecked on their coasts before heading south back to Spain. Nonetheless, a lot were.

  147. @Wielgus

    In the 13th Century IIRC, the English King had a conflict with the Pope and wrote him a letter it in which it was claimed that the English traced their ancestry to a Brutus the Trojan who 12,000 years before had migrated with his people to Britain from Spain.

    I don’t know how much credence was given to this story by modern historians or pre-historians; but I had always regarded it as fiction. However, after the advent of modern molecular genetics, I read, about 30 years ago, that about three-quarter of the genes in the British of the 1990s was derived from ancestors who came to Britain, from Spain, about 12,000 years ago!

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  148. @Wielgus

    Small piece of evidence of Armada ships running aground in Scotland: according to tales I heard in Scotland, the ship(s) had very little food on board except for almost inedibly sour Seville oranges. When the Scots asked what use they were they were told that they were good for making marmalade. Although most southern European people call jam some name like marmalade the British reserve this name for Orange jam. True? Could be. Probably impossible to prove or disprove.

  149. Wielgus says:

    I don’t know. From what I can gather, most Armada sailors who ran aground in Scotland did so in islands of the Gaelic-speaking Hebrides. Quite a few seem to have been murdered. One major ship ran aground on Fair Isle, south of the Shetlands. If there was any opportunity to discuss oranges it was there, although some of the Spanish died of starvation. Survivors were brought to Orkney and later to Edinburgh, Scotland was then neutral in the conflict between Spain and England. Many were killed when the ship taking them back to Spain was attacked by Dutch gunboats.

  150. Wielgus says:
    @foolisholdman

    A racist-inclined British or American magazine of 1899 claimed the Irish were of Iberian origin. Not the English, however.

    • Replies: @HalconHigh
  151. HalconHigh says: • Website
    @Wielgus

    There may be some evidence of that.

    All my immediate relatives are Irish, but I was part of the Genographic Project carried out by Dr Spencer Wells which shows my DNA ends in Galicia in NW present Spain.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  152. Jimmy1969 says:
    @jimmy1969

    I think it is near that Country that have defeated them a dozen times….Israel.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  153. @HalconHigh

    ‘There may be some evidence of that.

    All my immediate relatives are Irish, but I was part of the Genographic Project carried out by Dr Spencer Wells which shows my DNA ends in Galicia in NW present Spain.’

    Major Celtic settlement in both Ireland and Spain. Not demographically overwhelmed by later arrivals. Northwestern Spain in particular is not at all what one might expect, racially.

  154. @Jimmy1969

    ‘I think it is near that Country that have defeated them a dozen times….Israel.’

    Well, let’s make it sporting. We’ll start giving Lebanon four billion a year in military assistance and the latest military technology and turn a blind eye while they develop nuclear weapons.

    Or cheaper: don’t arm either side!

    Then we’ll come back in a dozen years and score the results.

    • Agree: Wielgus
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