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In Bangkok for Miss Universe 2018, Miss Cambodia and Miss Vietnam made international news when they were idiotically mocked by Miss USA for not knowing English. The Vietnamese beauty, H’Hen Nie, is a Rade from Dak Lak, a province well-known to many American Vietnam War vets, but otherwise not often seen by foreigners. Its waterfalls and elephants don’t attract too many tourists, who prefer to crowd the beaches in Nha Trang, one province over.

Typing this, I’m lying on the floor, with mouse droppings inches from my laptop, in Dak Lak. It has been raining, often fiercely, for more than 24 hours. Outside my brownish steel doors are huge nylon sacks of plastic trash, or just trash. I’m working as a foreman at my brother-in-law’s plastic recycling plant, and living in the back of it. Tripping towards old age, I must make minimal provisions. It’s really cascading outside.

We have 30 employees, 23 women and seven men. The women’s main tasks are sorting the plastic pieces according to types and colors, and making sure no metal is left in them before they’re fed into the pelletizing machine. To remove metal, these small but tough women use a hammer or meat cleaver, mostly, but sometimes a screw driver or plier. Banging away for hours is grueling work, obviously.

Men load and unload heavy bags from trucks, operate the pelletizing machine. When men work together, even the smallest and weakest must suck it up and hump as much and as long as the rest, for to quit would be too humiliating. Sport teams, construction crews and armies all operate on this principle. Our hardiest male employee is also the shortest and scrawniest.

The women earned $6.82 a day, but their paces were slow, so now they’re paid by how many kilograms of plastic garbage they clear, which I track. Moving much faster, many routinely make more than $8.58 a day. The men are paid between $7.72 and $8.58. Around here, $6.43 daily is considered a decent wage, and most people don’t have to worry about rent, mortgage or property taxes.

The women prefer working here to the coffee plantations or lumber yards, since it’s inside and requires no heavy lifting. When a Rade woman was fired for repeatedly making mistakes, she threatened to bring her entire village down to take care of our manager, but nothing came of it.

Since the temperature inside the plant ranges from cool to moderately hot, it’s odd to see all the women well-wrapped up, so that only their eyes are visible. Perhaps they’ve retained this habit from toiling outside, where the dreaded sun will turn their skin darker, which they hate.

This town, Ea Kly, has around 20,000 people. Near our recycling plant, there’s a café with hammocks, so sometimes I go there to lie down, or to type. The owner used to serve beer, but she stopped when locals kept complaining about her price of 52 cents for a can of Saigon.

She only charges 34 cents for hot coffee with condensed milk, a Vietnamese standard, but it’s never hot. In Saigon, no one would put up with this, but we’re in remote, end of the road Ea Kly, OK, so just chill. In Hanoi, too, I’ve been served tepid coffee as “hot,” so it’s sort of a northern thing. From her accent, I can immediately tell the Ea Kly lady is a northerner. Decades of hard-core Communism degraded all northern foods and drinks, so that the worst pho on earth is actually in Hanoi, its birthplace.

It took a dozen visits before I found out the lady’s specialty is rice wine, home distilled, “I had to make my own because all the suppliers I tried were so inconsistent,” for they would use cheaper ingredients, hasten the process, cut corners. Though her wine has become famous locally, she won’t sell it in bulk, for fear it will be diluted or swapped, thus ruining her reputation.

She and her husband moved to Ea Kly in 1982, and back then, the FULRO insurgents were still very active. FULRO stands for Front Unifié pour la Libération des Races Opprimées. Rade, Cham and Cambodians made up the bulk of their membership, but there were also Bahnar, Jarai and K’Ho fighters, all unified by their hatred of the Vietnamese, who had stolen their lands.

You, too, are living on stolen land, and the fact that you’re still here means your heroically murderous ancestors have wiped out plenty of people, or at least their cultures. Physical war may be sporadic, but culture war is constant, and what’s at stake, always, is self-definition. The most common, persistent and insidious war is the fight between nations, often inside the same borders, over self-definition. Countless men have been willing to die to protect their nation’s ability to define itself. If you lose sight of this objective, you’re already defeated.

The café owner’s husband tells me, “When I first moved here, the FULRO would occasionally show up to collect rice, but what they needed most were medicines. Hunger, they could handle, but not being sick in the jungle.”

“Did they kill Vietnamese civilians?”

“No, not when I was here. They were in trouble. Our government is very good at maintaining security. The FULRO were being chased around, so they couldn’t set up base camps and grow vegetables, like our soldiers did during the war. A couple of times, drunk FULRO even walked down the middle of the road, shouting, ‘We’ll take this land back!’”

“So what happened?”

“We never saw those guys again!”

“What do you mean?”

“The government got them, I’m sure. We had plants inside all the minority villages.”


If it wasn’t for the Vietnamese, the Cham would not be aligned with the Rade, Bahnar and K’Ho, but subjugate and assimilate them into Champa, which once took up most of central Vietnam. These obscure and nearly obliterated nations should remind you that your nation, also, can easily meet the same fate.

With the Vietnamese, me included, surging into Dak Lak, the Rade have become a minority here. Most still live in their own villages, which I’ve been advised to stay clear of. Many Rade are employed by Vietnamese, so I often see them going to work, sitting on the flat beds of tractor trucks. In our plastic recycling plant, we also have a handful of Rade employees.

Near the end of a long day, the sweating men are taking a brief break, during which one Rade spoke to another in their language, which prompted a Vietnamese to shout, “Stop speaking Chinese! We can’t understand it!”

Second Vietnamese, “That’s not Chinese. That’s Rade!”

A third Vietnamese addressed the Rade in the one Cambodian sentence he knew.

Second Vietnamese, “That’s Cambodian. They’re Rade! It’s a different language!”

Fourth Vietnamese, “There’s this song I’ve heard. Maybe it’s Rade. I can’t quite remember the title…”

First Vietnamese, “You mean the one, ‘I don’t take a bath, and that’s why I stink’?”

This kind of racist needling or bantering, I’ve heard many times before, but as a minority in the USA. That’s just how knuckleheads talk, the world over. Culture war winners freely crack jokes.

One of the Rade men is older and taller than the rest, so he’s nicknamed Bố Già, or Godfather. A bit kooky, he’d fish out a plastic bracelet from the trash and wear it, or grinningly tilt a decapitated doll’s head back and forth, just to see the blonde babe open and close her eyes.

Though Rade are generally darker than Vietnamese, you will occasionally run into one who’s remarkably white, with vaguely or even quite pronounced white features, but this shouldn’t surprise, for the French were here for decades, then the Americans dropped by. Capitalizing on the Rade’s hatred of Vietnamese, the US armed them to fight the Viet Cong, but the Rade ended up killing a few ARVNs too.

In Saigon, you can’t stumble a block without finding at least decent food options, but in Ea Kly, the culinary offerings are rather humble and humbling. Outside Vietnamese schools, there are usually a handful of vendors, at least, selling breakfast, lunch and snacks, but the elementary school near me has just one choice in the morning, sticky rice with bits of corn, fried onion, pork roll and dry, shredded pork.

Although dog and cat meat joints are very rare in southern Vietnam, there are a handful in Ea Kly, thanks to the many immigrants from the north. As for the Rade, they have their own dishes, of course. To prepare one delicacy, they place slices of beef over a nest of weaver ants, then poke it to get the pissed-off ants to swarm out to nibble on the meat and urinate on it. The ant piss-marinated beef would then be placed on a tin roof, to be baked by the sun. Weaver ants and their eggs are themselves eaten, in a sweet and sour soup. At banquets, guests wolf down medium rare beef or buffalo dipped in just MSG. Another Dak Lak tribe, the Mnongs, can boast of a barely-cooked-pork salad, served in the pig’s hollowed out carcass.

Dak Lak is renowned for its coffee, including the super expensive cà phê chồn, Vietnam’s version of kopi luwak, which is coffee beans collected from the excrement of a civet. This beast only selects the choicest coffee cherries to eat, and its intestinal enzymes imbue the coffee beans with an elegant flavor, and no, there’s no shit to ingest after processing. When the French introduced coffee to Vietnam, it was an exorbitant beverage reserved for the priviledged, so coffee growers themselves could only afford crap, so goes the story, but this smell, to me, too much like later-invented illustration of Colonial oppression and class differences.

“Yeah man, they made us grow this java, but we could only sniff it, not drink it, so cursing our opprimée fate, we drunkenly decided to brew some random shit, found on the ground, but dude, it turned out to be some boss shit! The best shit ever!”

What if a Rade moves to, say, Minneapolis and decides to open a restaurant serving ant piss-marinated beef? If all cultures, and hence all cultural practices, are equally valid, then there’s no reason why he can’t, but of course he won’t be able to, just as Muslims can’t have their prayer calls broadcast across an American city, or Christians their displays of the Ten Commandments on public land. The more multicultural a society, the more muted and blunted each culture within it, and a man can only be fully himself within his own, self-defined context. As soon as a Rade, Indian, Kenyan, Swede or whoever is removed from his native soil, he’s compromised, if not a sick caricature of himself.

Sometimes, I eat lame pho at a place run by a woman from Thai Binh. Here since 1995, she used to make excellent money serving bus passengers, “That’s how we could afford to send our kids to schools. My place was open from 3 in the morning until 10 at night. Back then, a bus from South to North would take several days, so there were many stops.” Now, with much better roads, they just zoom by, thus depriving her and many others of income.

She offered all types of dishes, “I had fresh killed rabbits. I had dogs, but the dogs would cry and moan during the night, just like people, so I stopped.”

Many of her customers have been Rade, “My husband went to Saigon and bought a 60 million dong [$2,500] flat screen, so the Rade would just sit here for hours, from 8 in the morning until 4!”

“But they would order food and drinks the whole time?”

“Hardly anything! Some would just get cigarettes for 5,000 [21 cents]. If they ordered dog meat, they would keep requesting extra lemon grass and skunkvine leaves, so they could dip them in the fermented shrimp paste, and I couldn’t say no.”


Once when she was away, her husband pissed off some Rade so they wrecked the place, “They thought he didn’t want to serve them because they were Rade, but it was just because I wasn’t around. He was drunk, though, so he didn’t say it very nicely.”

She goes home to Thai Binh every three years, but once stayed away for five, “The last time, it cost me 10 million [$429]. For each person I visited, I had to bring a tin of cookies, a kilogram of sugar and a packet of MSG. If it’s an old person, then I would also give 500,000 [$21.45].”

Like me, she moved to Dak Lak for economic reasons, and though she’d rather be in Thai Binh, I’m sure, where the culture is more familiar and congenial to her, she doesn’t have a choice but to stay and, likely, die here. A visit to the local cemetery showed that most of the deceased came from elsewhere. In the eyes of the Rade, they’re all invaders, and so am I.

If you take the long view, no land is intrinsically the property of any tribe, so terms such as “native American” or “first nation” are inherently nonsensical. Nations have always encroached on each other, and these include not just armies but immigrants, illegal and legal. Of course, outsiders have also been welcomed in, and the justification, nearly always, is that they benefit the host society. To this list, we can count African slaves to the Americas, Muslims to Europe and, now, Southeast Asians to Japan.

During Miss Universe 2018, H’Hen Nie wore an outlandish banh mi outfit as Vietnam’s national dress, but such is the evolution of culture. With its French bread, paté and mayonnaise, this bastard of French colonial rule has been embraced by Vietnamese to define themselves, to be draped onto a Rade whose self-definition has been much compromised by Vietnamese.

Since H’Hen’s mother speaks no Vietnamese, she’s interviewed by vnExpress through a translator. She shares, “At that age[14], girls in my village start to get married, have children. Back then, if H’Hen had listened to me, she wouldn’t be able to shine so brightly today. I feel very happy and lucky that my daughter was so stubborn. From now on, I will never urge her to get married […] As a child, when I was still carrying her on my back to school, I could see that she was very special. As a child, she made everyone cherish her because she was so cheerful and positive. The road from home to school was very long, and got muddy each time there was a storm, but H’Hen never dreaded it, but went to school diligently. There were days she went to school without breakfast. I feel guilty for not having the means to send her to school properly. H’Hen’s achievement today is mostly through her own effort.”

Placing fifth at Miss Universe 2018, H’Hen was paid $25,805, all of which she has already given to charities, with the main project the building of a library in her impoverished village, Sut M’Dung.

It’s not hard to see why H’Hen is receiving a tremendous amount of love from fans, domestic and foreign, but cheering her on, Vietnamese can also congratulate themselves on proving to the world that 1) They don’t discriminate against minorities 2) Despite having 54 ethnic groups, Vietnam is just one big, happy family. Similar delusions infected many Americans when they elected Barack Obama.

Having often been threatened with cultural annihilation, one society doesn’t just know that self-definition is an endless war, but is willing to fight even to the death for it, and that’s why it will endure. Warring against itself, the other one implodes.

Linh Dinh’s latest book is Postcards from the End of America. He maintains a regularly updated photo blog.

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  1. Biff says:

    I’m working as a foreman at my brother-in-law’s plastic recycling plant, and living in the back of it.

    I live in the Phra Khanong district of Bangkok, and just down the road is a huge recycling plant. There is no real door, but just two gaping openings on the street side, so you can get a real good ‘look see’ while driving by. Lovely place, and you do get a genuine sense of taking what they’re giving cause I’m working for a living. It’s constantly busy, and it is an industry that has become big-business in this part of the world. Thirty years ago Thailand was a genuine throw away/littering society, and has transformed into a recycle everything environment – doesn’t mean you won’t find garbage piled up here and there – get real.

    Point is – have mercy for those who have to work in that environment.

  2. so Vietnamese, like Koreans and Chinks, also kill and eat companion animals?I did not know this, though I should have.

    it’s a good thing the invasive Whites largely liquidated the “native”, treacherous, asiatic savages in north ‘Murka, thus preventing all sorts of future badness.

  3. anon[199] • Disclaimer says:

    Very interesting article.

    I was going to ask a few days ago if you could video the workers and ask them about their life there but they probably don’t speak english. 🙁

    • Replies: @Linh Dinh
  4. Linh Dinh says: • Website

    Here’s a full interview of a domestic servant in Saigon. Though she makes more than people in rural areas, she is always at work, more or less, with practically no time to herself. She gets one day off a month. As a live in servant, she can save money, however, so can make future plans.

  5. @Haxo Angmark

    ” … companion animals?”

    Is that what you call that filthy dog sleeping in your bed? By the way, this Linh Dinh is a hell of a writer.

    • Replies: @mp
  6. niceland says:

    You, too, are living on stolen land, and the fact that you’re still here means your heroically murderous ancestors have wiped out plenty of people, or at least their cultures.

    Interesting. I am perhaps one of very few readers who can deny this. Iceland was uninhibited when settled by my ancestors. Yes the Icelandic sagas mention “papar” Irish monks being present here but nothing more about them or what happened to them. Being monks – the vikings hardly did much damage to their lineage. Perhaps this is the reason we are so guilt free and “innocent” people in general.

    I am trying to decide if I feel more sorry for the fantastic writer Linh Dinh or his subordinates working in the recycle factory. I make more in a hour than they make each week. And I bet their work is more demanding and harsh than mine. It’s just sad. However you pay $8 for a decent beer over here and $1000 per month for tiny apartment in the suburbs.

    Love your stories Linh, along with Ron – you are the best of

  7. Anon[441] • Disclaimer says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    Merry Christmas from Switzerland:

    “Not Just for Christmas: Swiss Urged to Stop Eating Cats and Dogs”

    Hundreds of thousands of people in Switzerland eat cat and dog meat, particularly at Christmas, according to a Swiss animal rights group seeking to ban the practice.

    SOS Chats Noiragigue is behind a campaign to ban the consumption of cats and dogs, more commonly associated with countries such as China and Vietnam, in the small European country. A petition to parliament has gathered almost 18,000 signatures so far, including actress and animal rights activist Brigitte Bardot.

    Founder and president of the group Tomi Tomek told the BBC that 3% of Swiss people eat cat or dog meat, 80% of them being farmers. The Lucerne, Appenzell, Jura and Bern areas are the main culprits.

    “One woman gave me a recipe for cooking newborn cat,” Tomek said. “I went to the police, a veterinarian and the government and they all told me that there was no law against it.” She was told to write a petition and try to get a politician to support her. She’s now rallied five to her cause.

    Cat meat even features prominently on Christmas menus in some parts of Switzerland, Tomek said, while dog meat is also used to make sausages. “It is an old tradition in Switzerland to eat dog meat like sausages and use dog fat for rheumatism,” she said. “They eat cats because they taste like rabbits.” They are apparently prepared in the same way and best served with white wine and garlic.

    “Farmers will eat their cats and dogs when they have too many, says Tomek. “I told them to sterilize the animals but they said it was too costly and it made a good meal.”

  8. niceland says:

    I found your paypal donation page! Have some rice wine and write more stories for us.

  9. Miro23 says:

    Like me, she moved to Dak Lak for economic reasons.

    Probably the story the world over. Also a nice essay on getting by in difficult circumstances without any rancour. Wishing Linh a Happy Christmas and thank you for the interesting writing.

  10. anon[122] • Disclaimer says:

    I am trying to decide if I feel more sorry for the fantastic writer Linh Dinh or his subordinates working in the recycle factory. I make more in a hour than they make each week. And I bet their work is more demanding and harsh than mine. It’s just sad.

    i was thinking about that too

    wonder if we had a little fund raiser for them and they could have a nice celebration and feast courtesy of Unz readers

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  11. anon[122] • Disclaimer says:

    “One woman gave me a recipe for cooking newborn cat,” Tomek said. “I went to the police, a veterinarian and the government and they all told me that there was no law against it.”

    busybody went to the police, lol

    • Replies: @Curious
  12. Sergio says:
    @Linh Dinh

    Big mistake, big time misnomer!!! America is the Continent NOT a country “stupid”.

  13. pyrrhus says:

    Merry Christmas Linh Dinh!

  14. republic says:

    Interesting article. I visited the Central Highlands a few years ago, nice cool climate at 5,000 feet above sea level. Big change from the heat of Saigon.

    So it seems that the Vietnamese are doing to the local ethnic groups there what the Chinese did in Tibet and the Sinicization of the area, the ethnic colonization of the minority population.

    This population replacement strategy is now underway in all the White majority countries in the world. (with the notable exception of the Slavic countries).

    • Replies: @LostHopeless
  15. @niceland

    “I make more in a hour than they make each week. And I bet their work is more demanding and harsh than mine.”

    I only break a sweat at the gym. We should enjoy our Western lifestyles while they last, which might not be much longer.

    • Agree: niceland
  16. @republic

    This is an ongoing project across wide swathes of the world. The people moving do not know that they are being used as a tool for the globo-home. Much of Singapore and peninsular Malaysia is seeing a yuuuge influx of Indians [dot] so much so that Singapore had an ethnic riot a couple years ago, featuring burning of buses and cars, shots being fired etc; although without the blood, gore and rapine you normally see in ethnic riots in India. But if the trend continues, that may start happening as well.

    So do you blame only the Indians and leave out the puppet masters? Of course both are to be blamed but the real blame goes to the enablers. I work in tech and the Indian [dot] invasion of it is almost complete, so much so it has become an Indian “ethnocracy” featuring all the nepotism, passive aggressiveness and creepiness that you’d expect from them. But they aren’t the ones issuing the visas (notwithstanding their deep pocketed lobbies like NASSCOM and immigration voice). I really don’t want them doing to other industries what they’ve done en masse to tech.

    But the fact is, they are (still) not calling the shots. Our putative “governments” [in the west] are. Unless the globo-homo transnational elite is displaced or culled, the world will see ever more population displacement, ever more war and ever more tragedy and no one would be able to do anything about it.

    OTOH, regarding guest worker programs [both white and blue collared]:
    The only viable way to manage guest workers using their skills without destroying the native population is to do things the oil rich gulf way. You can earn a million$ a year in Dubai and live there for 30 years. You still can’t become a citizen or have any say in politics.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Miro23
    , @Jeff Stryker
  17. @Anon

    Speaking of culture wars. I’ll bet Newsweek found all five people in Switzerland who (allegedly) eat dog and cat meat so they could take the heat off the millions of Asians who do.

    Newsweek is only slightly more credible than Michelle Obama’s academic achievements.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  18. Alfred says:

    Send these Swiss to Australia. We have 18 million feral cats that are exerting a huge toll on native wildlife.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
  19. thanks for your articles. I read all. Very good, and human

  20. Linh

    Love your writing. Thank you so much for sharing: my favorite part of this site.

    The ant piss beef anecdote got me hungry.

    Three Saigon restaurant/stand faves? I’ll be there in a few days.

    Incidentally, any idea why Malaysians (where I am currently living) are so uninterested in Vietnamese food? I see fewer and fewer Vietnamese restaurants in KL, and, when open, they are generally empty.

    • Replies: @Rev. Spooner
    , @Linh Dinh
  21. I scornfully turned down a teaching hour Western International School in Siem Reap (Cambodia) which paid $8/hour because my last part-time job had been $18/hour teaching pharmacy employees at Fench-owned U-Care. A woman working hard on a building site (!) here is doing well to make $8 a day while the best cocktails in the Raffles Hotel (owned by the Kingdom Group of Companies chaired by the Emir Waleed bin Talal bin Abdul-Aziz As-Saud) charges $12 for a good gin-and-everything cocktail in a brilliant cocktail lounge with lovely books to sit and read and chessboards. On the other hand, a small marijuana pizza from Ecstatic Pizza on the street facing the children’s hospital – enough to stone two people quite well – is $9.

  22. @Sergio

    Yo soy estadounidense, no americano.

    • Replies: @republic
  23. Lelle says:

    “1) They don’t discriminate against minorities 2) Despite having 54 ethnic groups, Vietnam is just one big, happy family. Similar delusions infected many Americans when they elected Barack Obama.”

    Good one, Linh Dinh.

  24. republic says:

    excellent video by Infowar’s Paul Joseph Watson

  25. republic says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    Latin Americans are very sensitive, everywhere else in the planet citizens of the United States are known as Americans.

    In Mexico the local polite term for white Americans is Americano. The lower class which hates White Americans calls them gringos.

    If Fred Reed is reading this: I have nothing against Mexicans, so long as they stay in Mexico!

    • Replies: @Nawi
  26. Anonymous[382] • Disclaimer says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    This Swiss pensioner says he grew up eating cat.

    “Swiss man Martin Bühlmann admits to eating cats
    According to the pensioner from Lucerne, cat meat is ‘delicate and easily digestible’”


    A Swiss pensioner has admitted to a peculiar culinary preference – cooking and eating cats.

    Martin Bühlmann, a 72-year-old former hunter and amateur cook, said he liked to eat the food his grandmother would have prepared, also including pig’s ear, tripe, calf’s brain, lungs, heart, fox and badger.

    And speaking to a Swiss radio documentary called Das Tier und wir (The animal and us), the Lucerne resident said he grew up in a large, poor family and that his mother would often cook cat meat for dinner when he was a child.

    He said feline meat was “very delicate and easily digestible, it tastes better than rabbits”.

    “I find such dishes as cat meat more ethical than dishes such seafood or sushi, which is shipped from overseas,” he added.

    Switzerland is one of the few countries in Europe that still allows people to kill cats or dogs for consumption, according to Blick.

    Mr Bühlmann insists he no longer eats cats but said he felt it was not different to killing and eating a chicken.

    He insisted he killed the animals humanely, using a gun.

    “If farmers had surplus cats, they would often called me to help,” he said.

    He called the increasing humanisation of pets “ridiculous”, and said even feral cats should be eaten.

    “They just do not belong in the forest, so you should shoot them there,” he said.

    But even he drew the line at eating dogs – saying he could not bear to eat something that reminded him of his beloved late pet canine, Julian.

  27. anon[265] • Disclaimer says:

    The only viable way to manage guest workers using their skills without destroying the native population is to do things the oil rich gulf way. You can earn a million$ a year in Dubai and live there for 30 years. You still can’t become a citizen or have any say in politics.

    nothing wrong with that – sensible policy

  28. Curious says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    Do crackers kiss said companions while they’re screwing them, right after said companions had just licked excrement?

  29. A clear, informative writing style that is also almost whimsical. Wish I could do that!

  30. A very sad story.
    Reading it I wondered why I see not a word how to improve life there.

    And I wondered why we, in any case in western Europe, succeeded in improving the quality of life.
    Before European countries began controlling the world our relative wealth cannot be explained by stealing or exploiting outside Europe.
    Using coal energy was a big step forward, but long before the steam engine considerable parts of European the population led better lives than described here.

    Now it may be that contemporary historians ignored common people, but a book as
    A.Th. van Deursen, ‘Een dorp in de polder, Graft in de 17e eeuw’, Amsterdam, 1998
    is about common people in an ordinary village.
    A number of exceptional coïncidences caused that so many records of the village survived that the author can describe the day to day lives of almost any villager.
    These people had far better lives than described in the article here.

    Venezuela now crosses my mind.
    Even without oil there is no need whatsoever for miserable lives in Venezuela, as those who know the country explain.
    The soil is very fertile.

    So the big question is ‘why did Europe succeed in providing decent lives’, and a considerable part of the world not ?
    The thought that re introducing colonialism would be a good thing for the world regularly crosses my mind.

    What we see is the opposite ‘down with white supremacy’.
    Now it is not just white supremacy, there also was or is Indian supremacy, the Indians of the sub continent.
    Uganda expelled all Indians, long ago, Ugandans took over Indian factories, also a cement factory
    The Indian owner regularly removed cement dust from the roof, the Ugandan did not.
    With the first rain the factory collapsed.

  31. @Linh Dinh

    Norman Lewis, ‘A Dragon Apparent, Travels in Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam’, 1951, 1982, London mentions tribes who, with working forty days a year, led, for them, satisfactory lives.
    Anyone understands one cannot and could not eat the piramids, nor can one eat Stonehenge, Gavrinis or Barnenez.
    Yet these things were built.
    One must conclude that at the time people were so prosperous that they could waste their time on building useless monuments.
    Of course, cathedrals, exactly the same.
    Nowadays the way to waste superfluous wealth is war.

  32. @Alfred

    I spent several years in Switzerland and got to know thousands of people. I can say with certainty that if any “Swiss” are doing it, they’re probably “refugees” from the Third World. The notion presented here is just a ridiculous fantasy designed to make primitive Asian habits look better somehow. The number of Swiss (or Swedes, or Danes etc) migrating to Asia and Africa is vanishingly small, for good reason.

    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
  33. @Curious

    Linh Dinh needs to learn how to moderate comments.
    You’re the reason why.

    • Replies: @Linh Dinh
  34. eah says:

    These obscure and nearly obliterated nations should remind you that your nation, also, can easily meet the same fate.

  35. Nawi says:

    “…everywhere else in the planet citizens of the United States are known as Americans.” which, in other words, means that ALL of these “planet citizens”are PARTIALLY WRONG.

    I would say that it is quite offensive (and plainly stupid) to use the word America to refer only to one country although many people in LA will not tell you this in your face, they are quite polite (while at the same time they will probably think you are an idiot)

  36. eah says:

    HongcouverVancouver, Canada.

    • Replies: @Linh Dinh
  37. Miro23 says:

    OTOH, regarding guest worker programs [both white and blue collared]:
    The only viable way to manage guest workers using their skills without destroying the native population is to do things the oil rich gulf way. You can earn a million$ a year in Dubai and live there for 30 years. You still can’t become a citizen or have any say in politics.

    Agree with this. I’ve seen it working in different countries with no problems.

    If most of the new arrivals in the US after 1965 had guest worker status rather than citizenship it would be a much happier place.

  38. @LostHopeless


    You come from a working poor background in Oklahoma as an oil worker or lower class Brit sales manager.

    Dubai or Oman seem like the kingdom of Aladdin. Exotic. Minarets beneath a setting sun. Warm waters and beautiful desert beaches. Stark beauty of the desert.

    For the working poor redneck oil worker from the trailer park or the Cockney from a poor estate, the lack of crime is a relief. Locals are to rich and the penalties too severe.

    The Gulf seems quite glamorous.

    As a result, some Americans and many British stay there for years and years. Home become a once-every-few-years trip back for a week and a memory.

    Additionally, jobs are often better paying.

    Then one day you are sixty years old. You have worked there for 25 years. And your contract is terminated. You have not worked for a British or American company so you have no pension. You have not paid into the tax system for years so you have minimum social security. Often times, you have no house to return to.

    Worse yet, most Western countries degenerate. Anyone who left the US or Britain in 1989 to work in Dubai at age 30 and is now sixty and given their walking papers by the Dubai government is in for a rude shock.

    This happens more to Brits than Americans. But it happens frequently.r

  39. mp says:

    In cities, trendy millennials take their designer dogs with them like children. Dressing them up in little doggie outfits, ferry them around in strollers, and bring them to places it used to be illegal to bring a dog (grocery stores, restaurants). Grocery stores have special gourmet dog food sections. It’s nothing to see the humans getting some doggie tongue action in puplic, while dog crap lines the streets. There’s an app that lets you get your dog walked while you work. Doggie day care. It’s the cult of the dog. Disgusting.

  40. Linh Dinh says: • Website
    @Mr McKenna

    As with most writers at Unz, I don’t have the power to moderate comments.

    • Replies: @eah
    , @Trevor H.
  41. Linh Dinh says: • Website

    Hi eah,

    It’s actually Toronto. I’ve walked down that block a few times…


    • Replies: @eah
  42. eah says:
    @Linh Dinh

    Perhaps you are right — I found the image here.

  43. eah says:
    @Linh Dinh

    Comments on the ‘Audacious Epigone’ part of are not moderated — they appear immediately (you still have 5m to edit/delete the comment).

  44. Anonymous [AKA "Anonymous75"] says:

    Interesting article. Reminds me of working years ago for a Korean outfit in LA, a hi-end graphics company that did work for all the major film and music studios. They demanded no less than 80 hour work weeks and strictly forbade taking any time out to eat a meal. The family that owned the company had inherited massive wealth to begin with–they drove his and her Rolls Royces and had a home in Calabasas–but still insisted on working alongside everyone else. They worked long stretches around the clock then when tired enough would simply lie down on the floor wherever they happened to be–cement, carpet, whatever, and sleep for a few hours. For total refreshment there was a dank shower built next to their small offices, and they supplied free to employees–the only benefit I can remember–a plastic gallon jug of Hartz Mountain dog shampoo, although I never had time to avail myself of that amenity. I was hired weighing 145 lbs, and left eight months later weighing 118 lbs.

    Geez Linh, thanks for the memories LOL.

  45. @Nawi

    The next time you hear a person refer to an American why not ask them if they are referring to a Brazilian or a Venezuelan? The reaction you get will likely be quite a bit more instructive than any reply to your comment here.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Nawi
  46. Every autumn as a ritual I put down eight mouse traps. Usually I do catch about plus minus 10 mouses.
    Mouse find his way into any house, that is a fact.
    I have to do it because they eat everything from rubber. I did have a recommendation to use cheese, as a lure but it did not work Only thing works is a piece of bread.
    Last year I did find new design of mouse trap with a plastic part. it was not good.
    You cannot make a better mouse trap. That is the truth.

    • Replies: @Durruti
    , @Miro23
  47. Trevor H. says:
    @Linh Dinh

    It’s one kind of hell if you can,
    And one kind if you can’t..

  48. Durruti says:

    You cannot make a better mouse trap.

    That is why I support Democratic Republics, and specially, the effort to restore Ours in America.

    Like how you write and think. Would love to see a complete article by you.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  49. @Anonmalayexp

    Many Malaysians are Muslims and eat only halal while the ethnic Tamils from India are probably vegetarians. I think they distrust the the meat being served. Just guessing.

  50. anon[190] • Disclaimer says:

    does it bother you?

  51. @Mr McKenna

    I can say with certainty that if any “Swiss” are doing it, they’re probably “refugees” from the Third World.

    I hope you aren’t as “certain” (and wrong) about things that matter. It’s true that the media has turned a tiny molehill into a mountain, but not to make Asians look better. There is a tiny kernel of truth in the story. It really is legal to consume cat and dog in Switzerland, and it certainly appears that in a number of more remote valleys ancient traditions of eating dog and cat on occasion probably persisted into modern times. An animal rights activist looking to make a name for herself made up the number “3%” and the German press, who loves mocking the Swiss, had a field day with the story which quickly went global.

    In reality, very few, if any Swiss, still eat cats or dogs, but it is actually probable that more than 3% of the population alive today has consumed that meat at some point in their lives. It was a hard life living through winter in a remote Alpine village prior to the 1960s.

    A Swiss reporter even found butchers who said they ate dog meat 20 years ago, but don’t anymore.

    • Replies: @NZLex
  52. @Durruti

    I am Diplom Engineer Mechanical (retired) I never did write anything in my life except Technical evaluation reports, and Proposals complete with sketches and Drawings, eventually leading to final plans. So I am not as most of you here, newsman. I never developed vocabulary to write an article.
    But here and there I am capable to write a longer comment.
    I really do like you, so I am sorry to disappoint you.

    • Replies: @sbarrkum
  53. Nawi says:

    I usually do that and quite often. It is other way of saying he/she is an idiot.

  54. Linh, what makes you think that your audience in the US is so goddamned interested in canine and feline cuosine of Nortb Vietnam? Skip the details!

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Alden
  55. M Edward says:

    I hate to spoil anybody’s fun here, but I haven’t seen UNZ post a story about the Danish and Norwegian women slaughtered by Islamists in Morocco.

    SO I WILL ….

    It’s time to wipe Islam from the face of the planet.

    No mercy, none !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @By-tor
  56. A couple of unrelated comments for this article:

    *google “save the oceans, stop recycling plastic”

    *In America and Europe 100 years ago there were many jobs and situations requiring manual labor and dirty noisy conditions with subsistence pay. It has been the norm for the existence of civilized man. If you think about it, only thing remarkable is a historical sense is how this state of affairs is able to be looked at critically. The future is bright, but it was never going to happen worldwide at the click of a switch.

    *The tribalism or identity politics and accompanying group identities spoken of in the article are falling into the dust heap of history. Geographic and reproductive groupings of people are going away, victims of wealth and motor cars.

    *How stupid is it that people judge their fellows by the group and by the ancient histories of these groups. For example, based on the citations in the article, no white person alive today in the US ever drove an Indian off “their” land or owned a black person. Similarly, the crusades were a long time ago, as was the French occupation of Vietnam. It’s a dopey drumbeat throughout the world right now, idiots continue to gobble it up and see life through its lens. Be an individual, it’s what you are anyway.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    , @Miro23
  57. wayfarer says:

    “Solution to Stop Islam”

    “Muslim Refugee Rape Epidemic: Coming to America? “

  58. Another wonderful, humorous punch in the gut, by the incomparable Signore Dinh. Keep them coming, very enjoyable reading.

  59. Talha says:
    @M Edward

    Come get some.

    You know where we are located (Morocco is easily found on a map); just don’t be a neocon pansy and have others do your fighting. If you have the balls, grab a rifle and take your sons with you and storm a beach. The Muslim world will give plenty of hills to choose from to die on.

    • Replies: @Reuben Kaspate
  60. Talha says:

    Mr. Dinh, a few questions…

    So this plant only deals with plastic? I have always wondered how recycling workers deal with glass shards and stuff especially in that kind of a manual operation.

    Also, are there Cham people in Vietnam or just remnants in Cambodia? I used to live by a Cham community in So Cal and enjoyed going to Friday prayers at their center even though I couldn’t understand much of the sermon since they gave it in Cham. Beautiful community; very welcoming – a Chinese brother married into them.


    • Replies: @Linh Dinh
  61. @Anon

    Italians eat cats, or did 45 years ago. They taste like rabbit, one told me.

    • Replies: @utu
  62. utu says:
    @George F. Held

    In Slovenia and Croatia they still eat rats.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  63. @Reuben Kaspate

    Skip the details!

    Or you could just skip his articles.

    LD is one of the few I bother reading and I find all of it not only very interesting but always excellent. The main message of this article is particularly well appreciated by me.

    I can also relate to the comment about the commies even wrecking the Pho in Hanoi because the sick bastards manage to wreck most of what they touch and most of it is on purpose. A large part of why Amerika is in the pits or on a steep slope downwards by any reasonable measure is that the country was used to fight on behalf of the Reds and crackpot Zionists and has long been a Red/Zio cesspool. If you think that’s hyperbolic BS, look up Marx’s 10 planks and consider that all have been implemented by our owners here for many decades, and remember who jumps when Netanyahu barks.

    As for eating dogs, cats or horses, never tried ’em but see nothing wrong with the idea.

    BTW, one of the secrets to a great pho is to use beef tendon

    • Agree: Bill Jones
    • Replies: @Stonehands
  64. By-tor says:
    @M Edward

    Get your NATO occupation armies, military ground attack aircraft and NYC-Tel Aviv-London-Paris-Brussels financial predators, homosexual NGO’s and politicians out of the Muslim population oil-rich lands.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  65. Agreed. But can we also expel the bankers, homosexuals, and homosexual-glorifying media and NGOs from the NON-Muslim countries?

  66. Linh Dinh says: • Website

    Hi Talha,

    There are plenty of Cham left in Vietnam, and they constitute the only Muslim Vietnamese. There are three Cham mosques in Saigon, and walking by one recently, I saw a group of Malaysian tourists visiting it. Saigon has two other mosques, one built in the 1930’s by Indians, all of whom were chased out by the Communists after 1975. (Indians also built three Hindu temples in Saigon.) The fifth Saigon mosque was built in 1885, and is now used mainly by Indonesians and Malayasians.

    Nearly twenty years ago, I used to hang out with Inrasara, a Cham poet, and I’ve translated a couple of poems by him. They’re in my anthology of Viet poetry, The Deluge.

    After Vietnam invaded and destroyed Champa, Cham fled to Cambodia, Malaysia, Thailand and even Hainan. In Cambodia, the Cham eventually attempted to depose the Khmer king, install their own Po Nik Ibrahim and turn Cambodia into an Islamic kingdom, but their spectacular failure led to harsh retaliation by the Cambodians, understandably, which led many Cham to flee back to Vietnam, where they were welcomed by the Vietnamese to help settle land Vietnam had stolen from Cambodia. The Cham were put to work digging canals, for example. When not slaving for Vietnamese, Cham did find time to build the magnificent Jamiul Azhar Mosque in An Giang.

    When Pol Pot ruled, about half of Cambodia’s 250,000 Cham were killed, but today, there are nearly a million in that country. They’re much more visible in Cambodia than Vietnam, and I saw quite a few in Phnom Penh during my visit this year.


  67. RJJCDA says:

    As an MP, worked with the Rades (and others) in Pleiku in 1965. They had a platoon-sized unit called Eagle Flight that were under a detachment of a SF C-Team. Can still count in their language while forget how to in Vietnamese.

    A relative of mine championed the “yards” cause for many years at international agencies, etc. He had heard my stories about them and viewed my photos.

  68. @niceland

    You can’t steal land since nobody owns it in the first place. By the time Europeans got to America most of the land they took had probably been claimed and “stolen” many times over by rival tribes. — to the extent that they even had a concept of land ownership.

  69. Anon[188] • Disclaimer says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    They are only companions in an urban setting. In rural areas all animals have a job to do, and are no different from other animals. Yard dogs and barn cats are not pets.

  70. @Greg the American

    Absolutely agree that “tribalism or identity politics” are pernicious influences.

    Unfortunately, there’s little or no evidence that they “are falling into the dust heap of history.” If anything, they’re on the ascendant, as the last vestiges of Anglo-American civilization crumble everywhere. Those were societies which actually valued and rewarded merit and achievement, as opposed to money or math scores.

  71. @Linh Dinh

    Talha’s people used to spread high culture, language and religion in the Southeast Asia, now his people are on the receiving end of the Arab cultural, linguistic and religious mumbo jumbo…

  72. @Talha

    With all due respect to your bravado, if the white Christians decided to wipe you off the face of the earth, all they have to do is unite (your unification won’t be a substitute for the lack of technological prowess) but you can thank your lucky stars that your Afro-Semitic cousins, the Jews, prefer you the Muslims, to Christians. And as long as the Jew isn’t truly opposed to Islam, ain’t nothing go gonna happen to them there hills in Morocco (and all he wants in return for saving your collective behinds is the itty bitty Israel)…

    • Replies: @Talha
  73. RobinG says:

    In Bangkok for Miss Universe 2018, Miss Cambodia and Miss Vietnam …

    Wasn’t the real international news that Miss Spain was a tranny, or something?

  74. @anon

    Does Ron really want his site to be a Fundme?

  75. @utu

    And in Africa they eat Albinos.

    • Replies: @Reuben Kaspate
  76. BobX [AKA "Bob who says thanks for leaving LD"] says:

    So LD the chronicler of the down trodden has become the whipman oppressing the down trodden. I guess he felt it time to put his study of the breed to use.

    • Replies: @Linh Dinh
  77. indocon says:

    Add Moly Tibbits to this list.

  78. Anton says:
    @jilles dykstra

    The Indians swept the cement dust from the roof; the new Ugandan owners did not. The roof collapsed with the first rain.

    Let me guess. The Ugandan owners did not bring in a Ugandan architect or Ugandan building inspector so as to avoid the possibility of having to acknowledge that the Indians were right about something.

    This kind of thinking seems to be a worldwide phenomenon.

    I hope that factory was empty at the time of collapse.

  79. Linh Dinh says: • Website

    Hi Anonmalayexp,

    I’m assuming you’ll be in downtown, mostly, and I rarely go there, so don’t know its restaurants. If you want a break from Vietnamese food, there is a Syrian restaurant, Al Sham, at 300 Võ Văn Kiệt. Though I haven’t tried it, I hear it’s very good. I’d like to talk to its owner someday.


  80. @jacques sheete

    Kudos, mr sheete as usual. And in addition regarding the“vendibles” -especially during an emergency. There are lots of stray cats here in N. Philly!

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  81. Linh Dinh says: • Website

    With your understanding of labor and industry, not to mention pure, youthful wisdom, you should be the Labor Minister of Venezuela, at least!

    • Replies: @BobX
  82. sbarrkum says: • Website


    Technical evaluation reports, and Proposals is a rigorous fact based writing.

    Well suited to comment on society and politics. Creative writers will tend to be “creative.

  83. Thank you very much. I did need a little encouragement. I was quite depressed.

    • Replies: @Reuben Kaspate
  84. Alden says:
    @Reuben Kaspate

    I like the details. Whether it’s barfly Americans eating free mini tacos at happy hour or Rades eating ant piss marinated beef I love his stories.

    • Replies: @Reuben Kaspate
  85. denk says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    Third world savages eat dog./cats,
    First world nobles kill them for the fun of it.

    fukus gas hundreds of dogs in Diego Garcia to intimidate their owners, then shipped them off to some ghettos thousands of miles from home.

    They exiled the indigenous from Marshall island, nuked it into glass, complete with hundreds of live goats to test the radiation effect.

    In the 78 days carpet bombings of ex Yugo, zoo animals went crazy under the incessant bombardment , such that the tigers killed and eat their own cubs.
    gawd knows how many cats/dogs were killed in that 78 days aerial vandalism?

    Ever heard of the cat man of Syria ?
    He set up a home for thousands of stray cats which lost their owners and homes during the savage fighting.
    Can you imagine how many cats/dogs were killed outright …when you bomb market places, wedding parties, villages, resident area ?

    What about human collateral damages you ask ?

    From what I gather, its those cutesy cats/dogs that tug at first world nobles heartstrings.
    These days civilian deaths by fukus bombings are reported , if at all, as casually as some sport events scores.
    Perhaps if they’r gonna start reporting on cats/dogs killed in fukus daily bombardments, first world nobles might go on the streets to demand a stop to the madness ?

    • Agree: By-tor
    • Replies: @Reuben Kaspate
  86. BobX [AKA "Bob who says thanks for leaving LD"] says:
    @Linh Dinh

    Well it has been some time since anyone attributed any youthful qualities to me, so thanks for that. Venezuela or Vietnam I view like any of the other shithole countries. I do not aspire to visit let alone be Minister of anything.


  87. denk says:


    the chinese are canada’s jews (must kowtow) — good2know [1]

    Trust a 5liar to twist my comment on Chinese affinity for Canucks as a demand for obeisance .

    Vassals paying homage to emperor of the middle kingdom ceased centuries ago, these days, all murikkan ‘allies‘ have to kowtow to those masters of universe in Washington DC/

    Exhibt 1

    Full spectrum sycophancy…..



  88. Talha says:
    @Linh Dinh

    Wow – thanks for such a detailed reply. Much appreciated – this is one part of the Muslim world that I haven’t done much research into.

    Stay safe and I hope 2019 turns out to be a great year for you and yours.


    • Agree: Miro23
  89. Talha says:
    @Reuben Kaspate

    all they have to do is unite

    While I have fun speculating about “when pigs fly” scenarios as much as the next guy I don’t take these scenarios very seriously.

    I think most Christians (M Edward is no fan of Christianity, ask him) would be quite satisfied with Moroccan authorities finding the perpetrators and bringing them to justice. You know; punish the guilty…

    I doubt most of them think that engaging in the international, apocalyptic version of the Jack Ass film series by attacking the entire Muslim world is an intelligent way to deal with a horrific murder of two women. Maybe I’m wrong.

    Besides, since much of the Muslim world is already in pre-modern conditions, it has a lot less to lose in the hypothetical exchange.

    the Jews, prefer you the Muslims, to Christians

    Certainly historically true for obvious reasons. You should remind them of this since the worst anti-Islam propaganda is put out by Zionists or Zionist- affiliated organizations.

    And as long as…

    …Allah (swt) is our Guardian and Protector, we need not worry about the staying power of Islam or that He has our back:
    “Those to whom the men said, ‘The people have gathered against you, therefore fear them’, but it only increased them in faith, and they said, ‘Allah is sufficient for us; He is the best disposer of affairs.’” (3:173)

    However, I think it’s common courtesy for someone – if they wish to simply delete the Muslim world (including our grandmothers and babies) – that they at least have the decency to pull the trigger or personally do the blowing up and put themselves in harms way for the privilege rather than acting like, what’s the term, ah yes – a “punk ass bitch” – and asking someone else or someone else’s son to do it. Wouldn’t you agree?


    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  90. @Talha


    I lived in and worked in the GCC for years-Oman and Dubai, with some freelance gigs in Kuwait. These places are much safer than where you are in California right at the moment-for anybody. Most of the crimes that do occur in Dubai are committed by Filipinos, Indian Hindus or Russian mafia.

    Would you rather walk through Dubai or Los Angeles at night?

    In the time that the US has been “nation-building” in Afghanistan and other Muslim countries it has gone down the toilet into homelessness, stagnated wages, drug abuse, black protests, militarized police, collapsing infrastructure and every other index of development. The US is far poorer and worse for the average person than before George Bush was elected and went on a Holy War.

    The bottom line with Syria is that the bean counters told Trump that another war would reduce the US to a bankrupt pile of IOU’s to countries like China that will no longer loan us money because we declared trade war on them.

    Muslims IN the US are doing fairly well, for all the moaning that whites do about Jews. Iranian Muslims have not let Jewish antipathy keep them out of Beverly Hills.

    As for the two tragic victims of this crime, it happens to white girls in the US because of blacks. r

    • Replies: @Reuben Kaspate
  91. @Alden

    Have it your way then… each to the devil his own way!

  92. @Jeff Stryker

    Iranian Muslims in Beverly Hills? A Jew from Iran calls himself Persian when it suits his needs and gullibles like you take it up hook, line and sinker… a Shah or two don’t make Little Iran, more like Little Haifa, sirrah!

  93. @denk

    The “Cat Man” should have gotten into touch with Uncle Linh Dinh to properly recycle those stray cats. So much for the business acumen of the Arabs!

    • Replies: @denk
  94. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Pop a few pills, it surely can’t hurt at your age.

  95. @Sergio

    Don’t know where you live, Pepe, but if it’s in the United States you are an American.

  96. @Curious

    So nice to hear from you, George the Curious monkey. ‘Inquiring minds want to know’–or was it ‘no’?!?
    And let me guess: you’re a successful Beltway lawyer and Ivy League graduate, which is only in small part due to Affirmative Action quotas and in very large part due to both your native intelligence and boundless Curiosity, and of course lots of reading and hard work, when you weren’t playing gangsta rap going to and from class on your personal device. (?)

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  97. @jilles dykstra

    Climate certainly has something to do with it: no tropical country is known for its brilliant intellectual pursuits, though the hot desert climes of the Arab countries used to be, perhaps because it was possible to escape the heat by being indoors. Also, and probably mainly, there’s Christianity. Genes, IQ and the rest probably come in as well–we’re not Kukamungas!

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  98. @Bill Jones

    But, in America, we only eat pussy!

  99. @daniel le mouche

    Whites don’t use the word cracker. He is black or Mestizo. It is like the word “peckerwood”. No white uses it.

    Chances are he is a West Coast minority. East Coast or Rust Belt blacks tend to use ethnic slurs-Mick, Polack, Dago etc.

    My money, therefore, is on a Mestizo.

    • Replies: @daniel le mouche
  100. @daniel le mouche

    Why are Han Chinese and Jews so intelligent, then?

    Both come from desert/semitropical regions.

    • Replies: @bike-anarkist
    , @ZOGged
  101. @Nawi

    ‘I would say that it is quite offensive (and plainly stupid) to use the word America to refer only to one country’

    How so? As far as I know, we’ve always called ourselves Americans, and our country America. Do Mexicans call themselves Americans or their country America? No. Canadians? No. Hondurans, Guatemalans, Chileans, Brazilians, Argentinians?? No, no, no no and no.
    But somehow, some way, you are soooooooo offended. Why? Just cuz.

  102. @Jeff Stryker

    Sorry, Jeff, but I have often used both ‘cracker’ and ‘peckerwood’, not because I’m black, but because I think they’re funny and I often like to imitate blacks, perhaps a result of having lived for years in heavily black ghettoes. Dunno. But without a doubt, East Coast blacks do indeed use the word ‘cracker’, it’s where I learned it. I’ve never been to the West Coast, so have no idea about it other than from tv and movies, which I studiously avoid.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  103. denk says:
    @Reuben Kaspate

    While the cat man might just be another feline lover like me,
    the way MSM blame the plights of Syrian stray cats all on govt forces attacks, make me wonder if its another psyop like the white helmets,

    Empire watch 101..
    Be cynical,
    Be very cynical,
    You just cant be TOO cynical when it comes to the 5lies.

  104. anarchyst says:
    @daniel le mouche

    You bring up a good point…
    Let me add to the discussion.
    Here in the USA, there are two “subsets” of blacks. Differences between the two subsets of blacks are easily discerned, if one knows what to look for.
    The two subsets consist of “Carolina blacks” and Alabama blacks”.
    Carolina blacks look down on Alabama blacks as they see Alabama blacks as being “uneducated and uncivilized”.
    Alabama blacks migrated to the midwest during the time when the automobile companies were looking for “warm bodies” to populate their assembly lines. It was highly desirable for Alabama blacks to migrate to Detroit; “working for Mr. Ford” was not only a step up, but was financially rewarding, as auto companies paid well. Alabama blacks’ social connections and “roots” appeared not to be as deep as those of Carolina blacks.
    Carolina blacks saw no need to migrate to the upper midwest, as their social connections and their “roots” to the eastern seaboard ran much deeper. Carolina blacks ARE much more educated than their Alabama counterparts.
    Having done much traveling throughout the United States, it was easy to notice the differences between Carolina blacks and Alabama blacks.
    Carolina blacks are much friendlier and open, offering assistance to just about anyone, regardless of race. The “chip on the shoulder” does not appear to be a factor in race relations.
    Alabama blacks (still) appear to have a “chip on their shoulders”, possessing a sullen attitude, and wariness when involved with whites and others outside their race. They may be “nice” to your face, but still harbor much resentment. Their education level is much less than that of Carolina blacks–it shows. Their propensity to blame “the (white) man” for their own failures is still a major problem.
    One can easily observe the differences between blacks who populate Michigan (Alabama blacks) and those who live on the eastern seaboard (Virginia, the Carolinas, Georgia, etc.)
    Food for thought…

  105. @anarchyst

    Interesting, I’d never heard the terms or concept. But what of say, Baltimore or Philadelphia blacks, who are certainly very violent and uncouth? What about the Missouri of Mark Twain’s time, when as he describes it blacks and whites got on quite well? What about, say, St. Louis or Kansas City nowadays, or Texas? It seems it must be more complicated, and that it doesn’t really explain black behavior, certainly not in full.

  106. @Linh Dinh

    What an awesome comment. Impressive!

    • Agree: Talha
  107. @Stonehands

    There are lots of stray cats here in N. Philly!

    I wonder if cat liver pate would make a good banh mi! 😉

  108. @Jeff Stryker

    Hate to break it to ya, most Jews came from Europe, and they are not semites.

  109. homahr says:
    @Linh Dinh

    Very interesting. May you have more information regarding Cham rebellion in Cambodia to turn that country to their own Islamic kingdom? Couldn’t find much online.

    I also read a while back on Al Jazeera that Cham in Cambodia were mostly Shia Muslim and not Sunni Muslim. Surely, that is not correct, the Cham must be Sunni. (article:

    The only Shias that I have read about and met in that region are very few in Malaysia, with a sizable number in Indonesia (around 1 million).

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Linh Dinh
  110. Talha says:

    All the Cham I ever came across in the So Cal area (there were three particular centers or mosques that I knew of being founded by and mostly attended by the Cham community scattered around Orange County – close to where the Vietnamese community was) were all Sunni.

    It’s been a long time so I forget whether they adhered to the Hanafi or Shafi’i school, which would give a indication as to who they took their Islam from.


  111. Miro23 says:

    Every autumn as a ritual I put down eight mouse traps. Usually I do catch about plus minus 10 mouses.

    You cannot make a better mouse trap. That is the truth.

    Totally boring but the plural of “mouse” is “mice”. And there’s a future for electronics in pest Control:

    Tottington Hall’s annual giant vegetable competition is approaching with the coveted Golden Carrot as its prize. Wallace and Gromit provide a humane pest control business, “Anti-Pesto”, protecting the townspeople’s vegetables. One evening after capturing rabbits found in Lady Tottington’s garden, Wallace devises a plan to turn them against vegetables by using his latest invention, the Mind Manipulation-O-Matic to brainwash them. Suddenly, the machine malfunctions and one rabbit gets stuck to Wallace’s head causing their minds to fuse before Gromit cuts the power; however, the transfer appears to have worked, as the rabbit shows no interest in vegetables. They name the rabbit Hutch and place him in a cage.

    The story continues ….

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  112. Linh Dinh says: • Website

    Hi homahr,

    Al Jazeera is wrong and you’re right. Like those in Malaysia, Cham Muslims are Sunni. Cham were Hindus when Islam arrived in Champa in the 10th century, and by the 15th century, most Chams still hadn’t fully converted. Fleeing to Cambodia in waves, they met Malays there, so their Islam was heavily influenced by these. Many Chams also emigrated to present day Malaysia. The Sunni influence flowed back into Vietnam.

    In Vietnam, there are about 40,000 Chams who are known as Banu Muslims, and their religion has elements of Hinduism and traditional, tribal beliefs.

    Champa was Hindu, and you can clearly see this just by looking at their ruins in central Vietnam. Chams became increasingly Muslim as their kingdom was swallowed up by Vietnam.

    For centuries in Cambodia and Vietnam, Chams were under heavy pressure to assimilate, sometimes most brutally, so that nearly half no longer speak the language. How many Chams are there is also not clear, for Cham nationalists prefer a higher count, while Vietnam and Cambodia a lesser number. Many Chams have also intermarried or at least begotten mixed Chams.


  113. Miro23 says:
    @Greg the American

    How stupid is it that people judge their fellows by the group and by the ancient histories of these groups.

    These people are actually your grandparents and parents, trying to give you a better start in life. They may be wrong, but they’re doing it for you, and they maybe know something that you don’t.

  114. NZLex says:
    @jilles dykstra

    The “white man’s burden” is so heavy sometimes, eh? I doubt those hard working people want or need your pity. More people in the poor countries know true happiness than those in the soft, privileged West – I know this from personal experience. People need food, shelter, work and family/social relations – not excess wealth and comforts. The problem is with European types thinking they know better than the poor, ignorant savages – they never asked for help, and all the “help” received so far has made their lives much worse in the majority of situations. If you want to colonize somewhere, please choose somewhere in Europe or North America this time.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  115. NZLex says:
    @Peter Akuleyev

    I think the point of the commenter you are correcting is that surely “superior” white people would never be so nasty as to eat a sweet little doggie! I am a dog owner myself, and the thought of eating them turns my stomach, but I certainly am not stupid enough to think it the consumption of canine or feline meats has anything to do with racial background. When people are hungry enough they will eat anything, including each other. All over Europe there are “unusual” cultural eating habits – it is just plain racist to try and pass this off as a purely “savage” phenomenon. “Must be Muslim refugees! Surely not goodwhite Swiss!!!” lol.

  116. @bike-anarkist

    Hate to break it to ya, most Jews came from Europe, and they are not semites.

    Finally, someone gets it! Frauds to the max!

  117. @bike-anarkist

    Their founding population was Semitic. They test about 50% Semitic and 50% European, mostly Mediterranean. That’s what the DNA tests indicate.

  118. Joe Wong says:
    @Linh Dinh

    Sergio has a point, the world should not refer USA as America, USA is only a small portion of the America, there are many nations in America. We also should call the Yankee as Yankee, not as American.

    The world should call out the lies every time the Yankees make them, like claiming they are the American not other people in the rest of the nations in America. In fact the Yankees are squatters of North America and they are also thieves of North America, they stole the land they are squatting from the First Nation of the North America.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  119. Joe Wong says:
    @Linh Dinh

    The way the Vietnamese waging culture war against Rade, Cham, Cambodians Bahnar, Jarai, K’Ho and other minorities is not surprising, because it was part of the French colonial iron fist rule of Indo -China, and French is notorious in committing culture genocide wherever they go. Vietnamese adores their colonial master French and imitates the French as much as possible including the French’s culture war against Rade, etc. minorities and the French imposed curly written script to show their identification and admiration of the French.

    • Replies: @Talha
  120. @Joe Wong


    As are Canadians, as are Latin Americans, as are Chinese in Taiwan…and so on.

  121. Joe Wong says:

    The American is blaming Chinese on everything bad happening to the USA. The Americans appear to have a “chip (white supremacy) on their shoulders”, possessing a sullen attitude, and wariness when involved with Chinese on trade and technology. The Americans are not even bother to be “nice” to your face, and harbor much resentment for their own blunders. The American education level is much less than that of Chinese. Their propensity to blame “the Chinese” for their own failures is a major problem for the trade, prosperity and peace with the Chinese as well as with rest of the world.

    “Carolina blacks” and Alabama blacks” may be an interesting concept, but the above is reality, and a very bad news for the world.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  122. Talha says:
    @Joe Wong

    This is honestly not unique to Vietnam; this is more something that is endemic to wherever the modern nation-state takes hold, especially one that associates nationality with ethnicity. To single out Vietnam isn’t being fair.

    Though one could legitimately assign a fair share to the French in that much of the modern nation state is based on their original model.


  123. Joe Wong says:
    @jilles dykstra

    This is what the White said about India. India is in the form of radical militant Hinduism which is the world’s most Degenerated, Duplicitous, and Debauched nation to have ever existed – carnage is happening today in India the likes of which has not been seen in thousands of years. When India and Pakistan were born and in its aftermath 100 million were killed and many more were displaced by the fascist Hindutva fanatics. India is the only caste system nation in the world that abuses human beings by birth, e.g. the higher caste can gang rape lower caste and lynch the victim afterwards as one of the caste privileges.

    The West (Europeans and their offshoots like the American, Aussie, etc.) is where is now, because of those hundreds of millions of people all over the world who were robbed and murdered, those who become victims of their very madness of colonialism and orientalism, of the crusades and the slave and Opium trades. Cathedrals and palaces, museums and theatres, train stations – all had been constructed on horrid foundations of bones and blood, and amalgamated by tears.

    The West squandered all the wealth they obtained thru stealing, looting and murdering hundreds of millions of people all over the world in the scrabbling of a dog-eat-dog play rough over the monopoly to plunder the rest of the world through two World Wars, one on the edge of Armageddon, and on the verge of another Armageddon. It proves the West is incapable of bringing peace and prosperity to the mankind because of their flawed culture, civilization and religion. The chaos and suffering of the world in the last few hundreds of years under the dominance the West proves they are a failure.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  124. RobinG says:
    @Joe Wong

    Hey, Joe, don’t hold back now! Seriously.

    But see #125, what Talha says. Aren’t you really railing against the pitiful state of humanity? After all, while you decry the West, you simultaneously declare the Hindus the “..most Degenerated, Duplicitous, and Debauched nation to have ever existed…”

    Those Hindu castes were there long before the British, and Polynesian tribes were exterminating each other so long ago that we only know about it through archaeology. And how about those Japanese!

    I’ll grant you, the Westerners are almighty hypocrites, and the arrogance and self-righteousness makes Americans especially repulsive. What’re ya gonna do? (Shrug.)

    • Replies: @LostHopeless
  125. ZOGged says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    You show your utter stupidity ( as if that was ever needed to be shown explicitly) when you try to extrapolate everything from SEA to China.

    Ever been to China in the winter dunce? Even Hong Kong gets way more chilly than say Bangkok in the winter months. Doesn’t go above the mid 50s and dips to the lower 40s / higher 30s. That’s not tropical by any definition!

    More than half the country gets pretty darn cold in the winter else derb (the one with the chinese wife) wouldn’t have tagged them the “ice people”.

    You need to stop dicking around where your knowledge is ZERO

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  126. @ZOGged

    Hong Kong is on the Tropic of Cancer and Israel borders on North Africa.

    Neither is the land of ice and snow. It never snows in Hong Kong.

    Yet their IQ is higher than Europeans on average.

    • Replies: @LostHopeless
    , @Duke of Qin
  127. @Miro23

    I fell for “My fair lady” but soon I did realize that it was a hoax. Eventually I also did realize that those who learn English perfectly fill up their brain to the extent that there is no room for any other knowledge and so they are not capable to learn anything else. ( I did know about mice long time ago but I also did forget about it long time ago.)
    ((Still thank you!))

    I do not think “stare at goats” is valid scientific subject

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Peter Akuleyev
  128. Miro23 says:

    I also still check my spelling. Learning English perfectly is almost impossible and I agree that it would be a waste of time.

  129. Michelle says:

    Linh, I just read a fabulous article by a lesbian “Cable Guy” . My first thought after reading it, was that I thought that you would love it. Here it goes!!

  130. @Jeff Stryker

    I think what he is was trying to get at was that Hong Kong is one of THE southernmost cities in China yet it get’s chilly there. But then again it is lost on you Mr. Patel. You need some animal protein. Stop worshipping that steak and instead eat it. That’d do your feeble mind some good

    Ever been to beijing (peking) in the winter? Ever been to the Chinese hinterlands? It gets pretty cold out there.

    Perhaps you need to visit those cities where sub-zeroes are not very uncommon (I mean F not C in case you were guessing). A friend of mine was once stuck in a blizzard in Beijing I think in 2009. Right now it’s 20F there. That’s no tropical paradise. If you visit harbin in the winter, you’d think flint MI was a bit more cosy

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  131. @RobinG

    Don’t fret Ms. Robin. These hindus are fast replacing the WASPs as the new elite everywhere. They not only hate whitey (except his wimminz), they ADORE the Zionists too. After all, the blood based ideology of the Jooz appeals to the hindoo way more than Christianity ever will (you know, being “born” superior and all that). That and their shared hatred for everything middle eastern, including Islam!

    But don’t hold your breath now, they won’t be sending their sons to die in that sandbox for the greater glory of “Izrul”, that’d be the new unter-menschen aka latin’x’ folks, blacks and poor whites.

    So since you also hate white American men so much, I’d think you’d welcome the new boss around with a nice ‘head’. He’d just use you (as in white wimminz) as his sex toy and then go on to take orders from his zionist overlords!

  132. @LostHopeless

    Northeast China is far less economically successful than the Southern provinces and Han Chinese of the South are more economically successful as a group than the Northern Chinese.

    Denk or Joe Wong would agree with me.

    European Jews are genetically the result of Arabs from the desert who married Italian women in Roman times, not places known to be freezing cold.

    In point of latitude, the Greek and Rome empires where European culture began were much warmer than Northern Europe.

    What makes you believe I am a Hindu Indian, of all things? I’m white. I’m not even a Jew. I’m a meat and potatoes German-American from Southeast Michigan.

    The fact of the matter is that the Han Chinese and Jews have IQ’s and their regions could be classified as temperate.

  133. @Jeff Stryker

    The Chinese of Hong Kong are not autochthonous to the South. No more than Germans Americans are native to Texas or Missouri. Lingnan, as China’s Southern semi tropical coastline did not definitively become Chinese until the 2nd millennium. It was sparsely populated jungle and inhabited by Thai-Kadai speaking natives until they were assimilated and/or displaced. Historically the Red River Delta region of Northern Vietnam was much more important than Guangdong and Guangxi to Chinese dynasties of old because it had significantly larger populations and thus more tax revenue. One thing most people are unaware of is that the Chinese invasions of Vietnam were primarily naval affairs. Armies sailed to Vietnam because land passage through the North was unfeasible because of difficult terrain and lack of settlements. The heartland of the Chinese, the Han race, is on the banks of the yellow river encompassing the modern provinces of Shanxi and Shandong, Hebei and Henan.

    • Replies: @LostHopeless
  134. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:

    Eventually I also did realize that those who learn English perfectly fill up their brain to the extent that there is no room for any other knowledge

    So true. It really is a fucking stupid language.

  135. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Eventually I also did realize that those who learn English perfectly fill up their brain to the extent that there is no room for any other knowledge and so they are not capable to learn anything else.

    Kto kak. Nabokov, Brodsky and Vladimir Voevodsky all managed to learn to communicate in written English better than most native speakers, without forgetting Russian or how to learn new things.

  136. Thinking says:

    A fascinating piece on Vietnam, I wasn’t even aware of the Rade.

    I look forward to reading more work by Mr. Dinh.

  137. @Duke of Qin

    reasoning with “Stryker” is like talking to a wall, only that once you’ve made a convincing point, he tucks tail and run only to resurface on some other thread with his relentless trolling.

    He pretends to be from the mean streets of detroit, now supposedly living the good life with his Thai-Chinese wife in Thailand. Always defends the (((chosenites))) and the (((Indians[dot]))). Ready his incoherent blabber the gist of which is :
    whites bad, (((they))) superior, Indians good etc. he’s a professional troll out to disrupt and cares non about facts

  138. topolcats says: • Website

    We had an unfortunate clash sometime back in relation to Thailand. Unfortunate, because 99% of your writing in accurate. I loved this article and the one about Japan. I was in Japan when I read was spot on. Keep up the great work…!

  139. @Joe Wong

    You’re addressing the wong topic. Try to make your remarks wererant!

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