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Don’t be on the wrong side of history, Communists often warned, though of course, they needed entire classes of such people, from the bourgeoisie to landowners, kulaks, reactionaries, decadents, Fascists, monarchists, counter-revolutionaries, unreformed intellectuals, wreckers, diversionists, believers in God and, often, even yesterday’s revolutionary heroes. It didn’t matter if these charges made sense individually or collectively, for Communists had to generate new enemies to squash.

It’s a natural outcome of the us vs. them Jewish mindset, chosen vs. unchosen, into eternity. The ultimate racism, Jewish thinking is a condescension or righteous rage against others, for these aren’t just inferior to Jews, but guilty of malevolence, in thoughts if not acts, against Jews. Blocking Jewish progress or destiny, they’re on the wrong side of history.

Much dumbed down, today’s reds simply charge anyone they disagree with, even slightly, as a Fascist. If you don’t think a guy like Johnny Sins, say, should soap his balls in a female shower just because Sins decides, spontaneously, that he’s a woman, you’re a Fascist.

For writing “female” so offhandedly, I’m also a fascist. There are no unambiguous penises or clitorises, but merely a continuum of jutting pudenda. Granted, half of us don’t have a lurid gash beneath our balls, but let’s not sweat that detail.

If someone told you just a year ago that today’s us-against-them would pit those who believe the entire world should, if not must, be “vaccinated” against those who would rather not be jabbed, you’d probably laugh it off, “Shut the hell up, you dumbass conspiracy theorist!”

In the first camp, we have Anthony Fauci, Klaus Schwab, Dustin Moskovitz, Albert Boula, Rochelle Walensky, Ron Klain, Jeff Zaints, Noam Chomsky, Scott Gottlieb, Howard Stern, Big Bird, Fondling Joe and, uh, Ron Unz, etc. In the second, we have thousands of nurses, policemen and firemen who would rather lose their jobs than be “vaccinated.” American pilots, too, have staged a walkout to protest the jab.

I’ve merely been inconvenienced by vaccine mandates. If they weren’t in place, I would be flying to Paris soon, with flights and hotel room for a week all paid for. (After my song-and-dance, I could hang out with a friend near Toulouse, then just linger in France.)

Since I’ve been canceled, literary invitations have disappeared almost completely, so this was very rare, but the catch was I had to be vaccinated, so no, thanks.

Also, Vietnam will reopen soon, but only to the double, triple or quadruple-jabbed, so I will still be locked out. Until when, who knows?

Making their own lives so difficult, are anti-vaxxers insane? No, Faucians, they’re just, uh, Fascists!

On November 6th in Boston, protesters against Covid “vaccines” were attacked by a mob, one of whom is quoted by boston.com in a subheading, “We heard there was going to be a rally of anti-vaxxers and white supremacists… and we wanted to help drown that out.” So the issue is immediately shifted from Covid “vaccines” to white supremacy.

Here’s an Ecologist—Informed by Nature headline, “Anti-maskers, anti-vaxxers and the racist right.”

A Conversation headline, “The inherent racism of anti-vaxx movements.”

At NBC News, there’s an article by Tonya Russell, its “culture and wellness writer,” “Why are anti-vaxxers so desperate to be seen as victims?” It begins:

In 1946, Albert Einstein paid a visit to Lincoln University, a historically Black university. Like many scholars who fled Nazi Germany, he found his place among Black people. That’s because, after escaping harm, many Jews found they weren’t embraced in the U.S., either. Both groups found common ground as they experienced bigotry and discrimination great enough to cause their deaths.

Again, race bumps Covid “vaccine” concerns. Beware of all those who would use race to mask the greatest health and human rights crisis ever, and it’s only beginning. Russell:

Three-quarters of a century later, certain Americans who are neither Jewish nor Black believe they, too, are experiencing a similar oppression. Apparently, being told to wear a mask and get a vaccination to stop the spread of a deadly virus means they now know what it’s like to live in Nazi Germany.

After stressing that anti-vaxxers are spoiled white babies, Russell wants them to “reflect on the modern-day adversity that your neighbors currently face, like the fact that Black and brown people have been disproportionately impacted by Covid-19.”

Like nearly all mainstream media narratives, this one doesn’t add up, for black and brown Americans lag behind whites in Covid vaccination, and it’s not because of cost. In the US, even illegal immigrants can be death jabbed for free, since it’s already paid for by American taxpayers. Ven al norte por el veneno gratis!

From 1932 to 1972, the United States Public Health Service enrolled 399 black men with latent syphilis in a bogus treatment program, The Tuskegee Syphilis Study. Since the goal was to observe this disease’s unchecked rampage, none of these men were treated, although penicillin had been made available by 1947. Thus, more than a hundred of them died, 40 of their wives were infected and 19 children were born with congenital syphilis.

Remembering this, plus many other instances of their government’s perfidy, American blacks are understandably more likely than whites to be anti-vaxxers.

I just spent three months in South Africa, a country I’m pretty sure is in Africa, where most people are black, I think. South Africa has just 39 Covid “vaccine” doses administered per 100 people, compared to 274 for Gibraltar, 185 for Singapore, 172 for Israel, 169 for Iceland, 164 for China, 158 for the UK, 154 for Japan, 129 for the US and 76 for Russia. Keep in mind that China and Russia have their own vaccines, bypassing the American Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson, and the British AstraZeneca.

I’m now in Namibia, where the Covid vaccination rate is even lower than South Africa’s, despite a massive propaganda effort to get people jabbed. Saner than others, black Africans are the least vaccinated.

Entering Windhoek in the dark two weeks ago, I was greeted by a billboard showing four health workers, “NAMIBIAN HEROES. They risk their lives to take care of YOU. Protect our front line workers, Get vaccinated.”

Walking around, I saw many more public encouragements to get jabbed, plus a vaccination center in a downtown shopping mall, though with hardly any suckers.

Most importantly, life is normal here, with restaurants and cafes open to everyone, unlike in, say, Paris. There is no apartheid between vaxxed and unvaxxed.

Its worst manifestation is in Lithuania, a warning for us all. Sixty-nine percent of Lithuanians are vaccinated, thus entitled to an “Opportunity Pass.” The rest are blocked from most activities.

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As tweeted by one Gluboco Lietuva, Lithuania’s unvaccinated can’t patronize cafes or restaurants, enter a shopping center or “non-essential store,” receive beauty services (hair or nails, etc.), use a fitness center, gym or sauna, attend outdoor events with more than 500 people, visit a loved one in a hospital, read at a library, though they can drop by to return or pick up books. If a university student, they can’t attend classes.

Lietuva, “This is the future facing countries that impose a Covid Pass: EU, US, UK, Australia, Canada… Is this the world you want?”

Covid passes, then, are not about health, yours or anybody else’s, but control of the vaccinated, and punishment for jab resistors, but why are they so coerced, threatened, shamed, ostracized and slandered?

Paul Craig Roberts alerted us to a video by a South African doctor, Shankara Chetty. Before breakfast one morning, I spent a couple hours transcribing his message.

Video Link

With the bat soup theory discredited, Covid is an engineered toxin, “a poison with an agenda,” but what is its aim?

Its release into the world was to gurney millions into hospitals, where most would be wrongly treated, “to engineer death and damage,” thus creating the appearance of a pandemic.

With widespread fear stoked, people were then “conned” into giving up their freedoms, into thinking “the safest place for us was in jail,” though in Albania, South Africa and Namibia, etc., they just got tired of this nonsense, and returned to normal life, more or less. In Albania, they don’t even bother with masks.

To regain our freedoms, we must be vaccinated with spike protein, “one of the most contrived toxins or poisons that man has ever made.” Herded like cattle into a box car, we can only stumble out through a plunge dip, Chetty says, but this treatment will likely kill us:

Now this toxin in the long term is going to get people with pre-existing illness to have those illnesses exacerbated. It has bits of prion in it. It has bits of HIV protein in it. It is definitely engineered. So, people with cancers are going to have their cancers flare up, and we’ll say they died of the cancer. People with visceral injuries or predisposition, like our diabetics and hypertensives, are going to have strokes and heart attacks, and the rest at varying times, and we’ll attribute those to their pre-existing conditions.

The Covid “vaccines’” aim, then, is “to kill billions without anyone noticing it, so it’s a poison with an agenda.”

Even if it’s not billions, but merely millions, or just a few hundred thousands, a goal that’s likely reached already, isn’t this vaccine farce a monstrous crime demanding our full attention and condemnation?!

The US Food and Drug Administration has authorized the emergency use of the Pfizer vaccine for children as young as five, although they have almost no chances of catching Covid. Two months from now, such kids will need vaccine passports to enter public spaces in San Francisco.

After buying 3.5 million vaccine doses from Pfizer, Costa Rica is making spike protein jabs mandatory for its children.

In August of 2020, Belarusian President Aleksandr Lukashenko claimed the World Bank and IMF had offered him \$940 million of “Covid Relief Aid” if he would impose “extreme lockdown,” thus crashing the Belarusian economy. Lukashenko refused this cloaked bribe.

How many, though, have accepted the Faucian bargain?

There’s an entire world beyond the Covid box car and vaccine plunge dip. Let’s reclaim it. We don’t need anyone’s permission to be normal.

Linh Dinh’s latest book is Postcards from the End of America. He maintains a regularly updated photo blog.

 
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  1. Dumbo says:

    We don’t need anyone’s permission to be normal.

    I think that’s the whole issue. If “going back to normal” requires showing a QR-code with your private health information every time you just want to have an espresso somewhere, and having mandatory jabs every six months in order to achieve “herd immunity”(LOL), then it is not “normal” anymore, is it?

    But the real crime is the one against children. They are not even hiding that Pfizer and Moderna’s big profits with these millions of new “customers” is more important for them than any concern about possible bad effects. There is no upside to vaccinating children with the mRNA Covid jab, since:
    a) children are basically immune to the disease, so they are doing it to “protect grandpa”, but:
    b) vaccinated people can still transmit the virus, so they are not protecting grandpa anyway, and he is likely vaccinated and “protected” already.

    So why are they vaccinating children, if not just for money?

  2. jsinton says:

    I totally agree. If your goal is to smash the economy, smash society, destroy civilization, kill everyone, but try to not look like it, then the COVID scamdemic is the perfect way. I’ve been trying to explain that to people almost since the beginning of the plandemic, but everybody just thought I was crazy. It’s been a strange sense of relief I’ve had that the world is finally catching up and cluing in. I was rather hoping I WAS crazy.

  3. TTSSYF says:

    My hope is that, within the next year or so, enough of the double-jabbed refuse the “boosters” and join the never-jabbed in shutting this farce down.

    I don’t doubt that a substantial minority of the world’s population will wear masks for the rest of their lives, but, as pathetic as that is, it will make it easy for the rest of us to know who to avoid.

    • Replies: @donut
    , @Frosty
  4. Thank you very much for transcribing the S. African doctor’s video. To me the best bet in this is doctors remember their Hippocratic oath and their conscience re-activates. Enough of them. Far more people who lived in the colonies in 1776 were with the king than were with the revolution. They say it only takes a few percent.

  5. Jiminy says:
    @Dumbo

    Don’t forget though that with the lockdowns kids have not been allowed to see their grandparents anyway. Some families have been split for months on end. Here I can’t wait to see what happens when it comes time to vote for our favourite politician. Are they going to close the voting booths to those that have said no to the vaccine? I think they’d like to. I know we can do a mail-in vote though, but it will be interesting to see how the great thinkers of our time respond. In the US vaccines are given away to people who don’t want them and are dying or maimed by them, yet diabetics can’t afford a vial of vital insulin that will save their lives because drug companies were allowed to jack the price up 5000%. Young adults sadly are dying because they just can’t afford to buy insulin. It’s a weird world.

  6. Another interesting post. You make some very valid points on this vaccine insanity.

  7. SZ says:

    Does anyone know why Vietnam has not purchased the Chinese or the Russian vaccines?

  8. ALSO: I found 5 think-o-graphical errors in your transcript you might want to go back and edit.

    1. the allergic reaction if I’m treated . . .
    I’m treated is untreated
    2. we see all these deaths, these deaths when . . .
    these deaths, these deaths is these deaths, the eighth day is
    3. we clear all the confusion . . .
    clear is create
    4. so the AMR will distribute this throughout . . .
    AMR is MRNA
    5. the virus was just the victim to give us a taste . . .
    virus is vector

    Thank you so much for doing this. I had seen this video promoted in these threads before but when you provide a transcript you really sell the idea that people ought to watch it and I would never have watched it if you had not done so. Gold star for Mr. Dinh today. *

  9. Wild Bill says:

    We are now entering the phase where society is split, making one part the “good guys” and the other part “criminals”. The expectation is (to paraphrase Jay Gould) to have half the poor kill the other half. Meanwhile, with the rabble bickering among themselves, infrastructure and supply lines as well as all non-mega business is destroyed, leaving shortages of basic necessities and creating more conflict over who will get what is left. As long as we tolerate the existence of creatures like Gates and Fauci and Schwab and of course all the central bankers among us we are doomed.

  10. As always very interesting article from Linh

    News from France: An official report from the very official ATIH (Agence Technique de l’Information sur l’Hospitalisation or Technical Agency on Information about Hospitalisation) demonstrates in it’s conclusions that:

    In 2020, for the whole year, hospitalisation for COVID represented 2% of all people hospitalised (because they were longer we reach 4%) and 5% of all hospitalisation of critical care.

    This has been reported on mainstream media.

    The saturation of the hospitals (destroyed by the EU dictatorship) was the same the precedent year, the same as 2018- 2017-2016.

    As I have reported many times, in 2020 there had been a slight increase in overall deaths in france which is scientificaly explained by the so called harvesting phenomenom (ageing of popualtion).

    Professor Raoult, after having been sued by the infamous Order of Doctors (Ordre des Médecins) for having cured thousand of people with HCQ and Ivermectin and talking directly to the population, goes full ballistic. He has made a video using the IHU Marseille channel:

    The title in english tells it all.

    Then he was interviewed by BFM tv, one of the worst propaganda media:

    He even accuses Bill Gates to be the chief engineer behind the whole injection program and when accused of being a conspiracy theorist he just told the presstitute to do his job and check the obvious datas with GAVI. He also denounced the conflict of interests behind all the official actors of this bogus pandemic, citing names like ex minister Agnès Buzyn and her husband Levy (responsible for having forbade the HCQ before the fake pandemic… If youtube translation works it is definitely a must watch.

    • Thanks: Joe Levantine
    • Replies: @Anon
  11. Piglet says:

    So why are they vaccinating children, if not just for money?

    Not just for money. When their parents and grandparents become too sick to properly care for them, who is supposed to look after them? Our “betters” know we can’t have millions and millions of children in such a situation, so they will be culled as well, like the cattle that we are, or at least the way they view us. At the very least kids will be made sterile so they’ll never reproduce, thus saving Mother Earth from the “plague” of overpopulation.

    Seeing what relatives and acquaintances are posting on social media, they can’t wait to get their next clot shot for themselves and their kids, and they despise those of us who resist. There’s no point in arguing with people so hell-bent on their own destruction. You can only work to save yourself and those who are like-minded.

    • Agree: TTSSYF, jsinton
  12. @SZ

    Easy to guess… Corruption of those in charge.

  13. anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    Communists had to generate new enemies to squash.

    Same technique being applied here. Some group is demonized as being a barrier to the coming paradise and has to be smashed. It’s always presented in simple terms of good vs bad which is at the mental level of most people.

    I was greeted by a billboard

    Who is paying for the posters and all the rest of the propaganda offensive? At root non-Africans but various busybody NGOs and foreign governments. They use African models for the advertising and hire them as frontmen to put a black face on something being pushed by non-blacks. Various presstitudes are hired to shill for this 24/7. We’re in the midst of the greatest propaganda campaign ever launched. Because of technological advances in communication it reaches more people than ever before, greater than the pushes for the previous wars. They’ll use this structure to hype their next war to bamboozle and dragoon everybody into it.

  14. Fauci and Gates, in particular, wouldn’t have the power they have today if not for senile tyrant Joe Biden. No one, beside the president, has the power to “attempt” to impose a vax mandate. It’s questionable if even SCOTUS can stop him, since his regime doesn’t listen to their edicts anyway. It doesn’t matter that old Joe is just a puppet who can’t string two sentences together, and whose brain no longer functions. What matters is that he’s THEIR puppet, the puppet of GloboCap and its propaganda arm GloboMedia.

    This Evil from Hell will not stop as long as Biden-Harris-Pelosi-Schumer and those communists who now control the democrat party remain in power. BTW, I believe that most democrats are not communists, but it only takes a well-organized dedicated minority to stage a successful coup – especially when the other side, the mainstream republicans, fail to recognize the Evil engulfing us. Elections will not save us from this growing tyranny.

    The question becomes: What are we gonna do about it? Wait until 78 year old Trump, Mr. Warp Speed himself, returns from his Florida golf courses to save us in 2024? In the immortal words of John McEnroe: “You Can’t Be Serious!”

    • Replies: @Derer
  15. @SZ

    With a population of nearly 98 million people, Vietnam has authorized nine COVID-19 jabs for emergency use, including the UK’s AstraZeneca, China’s Sinopharm, Russia’s Sputnik V, the UAE’s Hayat-Vax, Cuba’s Abdala, India’s Covaxin, and three U.S. vaccines including Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson.

    Vietnam has authorized 9 different vaccines, yet the Author – with his infinite medical expertise – rejects them all.

    Vietnam has administered almost 100 million COVID-19 vaccine doses: ministry
    https://tuoitrenews.vn/news/society/20211114/vietnam-has-administered-almost-100-million-covid19-vaccine-doses-ministry/64132.html

    First time I encountered Linh Dinh I looked through his archival materials and was quite impressed. But something has changed with him. A second and more detailed search found a piece titled Concerning the Alt-Right Mutations of Linh Dinh.

    The following is by way of brief preface to an important and thoughtful essay by Mike Boughn, whose piece immediately follows these comments.
    Shortly before Christmas, Boughn and I had a very tense email exchange with the notable poet, journalist, and photographer, Linh Dinh. The occasion was a recent article by Dinh, entitled, “Blacks, Jews, and You,” published in the Unz Review, one of the most widely read alt-right publications of the United States. When we saw the article, it had already gathered hundreds of comments beneath it, most of them of right-wing–even white-nationalist–tenor, fervently cheering Dinh’s polemic. Both Boughn and I immediately wrote to Dinh, a Contributing Editor at Dispatches for the past couple years, to express our dismay about the piece.
    Though shock is probably a more apt word. Indeed (and though I’d been myself concerned for some time about his attraction to zany 9/11 conspiracy theories), I considered Linh Dinh a friend and poetic comrade. He and I had long admired, supported, and on a few occasions written about each other’s work. The poisonous views he is now spouting are ones I never would have thought him capable of holding.

    People can change, and not always for the better. For an early part of my life I had an aunt who was just wonderful. But as the years went by, something happened to her. She became vindictive, incredibly selfish, and and started mistreating her own mother. My grandmother wanted to sell a small property to one of my cousins, and the aunt forbade it! Not yet understanding what was going on, I spoke up for Grandma. From then on I was very high on that aunt’s **** list.

    This Author is not the same person who wrote the excellent stuff I saw on my first pass through his work. Like with my mother’s sister, the change has not been any kind of improvement.

  16. Wild Bill says:

    We have brought this upon ourselves. By being so tolerant of corruption and failing to adequately punish it we have really cultured it to a level that is going to destroy us. In the middle ages and before, there were usually many crimes but one punishment. In the more sophisticated societies there might be more than one punishment but it was not rehabilitation and a second chance to repeat the crime. The perpetrators of this crime cannot imagine being called to account for it in any way. It has not occurred to them that in future they may be watching as their families are fed into a wood chipper because they have already committed so many crimes and gotten away with it. It is our fault they have become as they are and it is up to us to fix it.

    • Replies: @orchardist
  17. donut says:
    @TTSSYF

    All the people I know who have been “vaccinated” are getting in line for their boosters without any reservations .

    • Replies: @Blakjack
  18. @Zachary Smith

    …as he has probably discovered ALL vaccines do one or the other type of harm, using only his well trained common sense.

    I could write thousands of words on the now visible antibody-dependent infectivity enhancement of inactivated virus vaccines upon reinfection. (That was expected anyway by way of example of the poultry coronavirus vaccines, or the feline coronavirus vaccine.) I do not have to write anything on the toxicities observed for the S-protein in full length, its subunits and even its breakdown products in wastewater. Many terrifying scientific papers have appeared on this topic in the past year, now raising concern on interference with DNA repair, too. You can access them yourself even in PubMed. The E-protein of the virus does also do a lot of harm and we now only analyse two of these viral proteins. As a plus, they are not durably, or if they are, then ‘falsely’ immunogenic.
    Instead of vaccines, early therapy is the way out. There is one fundamental commonality in coronaviral infections: up to now, they have proven to come back every 3 to 8 months and infect, then re-infect. The adaptive immune system does not protect specifically against these-because of autoimmunity, most of the clones will be repressed over a couple of months. The innate immune system does give some protection but against this one that has been in the making for three decades, it has a difficult task.
    Again use your common sense and think about the seasonal rhinitis and men`s fever…they re-infect every late autumn regardless if you had one the previous year.
    So I propose early therapy and chemoprevention.
    Linh Dinh has touched a nerve and he is right.

    • Replies: @Zachary Smith
  19. Blakjack says:
    @donut

    For me, it’s a mixed bag. Many step up blindly for #3, but I also know a fair number who are saying “I’m done!”.

    • Replies: @Anon
  20. @Dumbo

    protecting grandpa

    Grandpa?

    Hasn’t all the shrieking, hysterical propaganda been focused on grandma during this mess?

  21. willem1 says:
    @Dumbo

    I read recently somewhere that once these shots are classified as “childhood vaccines”, the issue of liability disappears for the pharmaceutical firms. That is why you won’t see “Comirnaty” appear on the market until that designation is granted.

    • Replies: @meamjojo
  22. Chris Moore says: • Website

    It’s a natural outcome of the us vs. them Jewish mindset, chosen vs. unchosen, into eternity. The ultimate racism, Jewish thinking is a condescension or righteous rage against others, for these aren’t just inferior to Jews, but guilty of malevolence, in thoughts if not acts, against Jews. Blocking Jewish progress or destiny, they’re on the wrong side of history.

    This is an important insight. ((Jews)) are brainwashed to believe — and brainwash others to believe — that their “chosen” path is the righteous path that all must take.

    Simultaneously, however, the seek to separate themselves from the goyim herd, and indeed polarize the goyim herd, to keep their chosen selves “pure blooded.”

    So basically, the ((Jews)) are announcing to the world “Be like us,” while simultaneously declaring “Keep your distance.” The hapless goyim simply can’t win, and that’s by design.

    Sure, a few elite goyim will break the barrier and become ((Jews)) — Chelsea Clinton and Ivanca Trump come to mind — but most will remain outsiders, and pathetic lost puppies following the ((Jews)) around like dogs, whimpering “Me too!”

    Much of the US Congress has put itself in that position. Now, with the “vaccines,” much of the world.

    When you plunge the needle into your arm, what comes out is your conscience and soul; you become the perfect, pathetic golem puppet to top-((Jews)), as the Israelis have. Refuse to become a golem? You’re an “unvaccinated” pariah. Only golem will be employed and respectable, henceforth.

    Top ((Jews)) don’t out-compete their rivals so much as they eliminate them as a competitive force by hook or by crook, until only ((Jews)) are left standing as the “elite.” This is why the US has been reduced to a clown show and a farce since soulless ((Jews)) ascended into the top of the “elite.”

    The insane contradiction is why ((Jews)) are destined to lose, and lose big. Their own bloodletting character will ultimately destroy them and everyone around them drawn into their insanity.

    The question is, how much of the world will be left standing?

    • Troll: meamjojo
  23. @Wild Bill

    accurate – correct;

    should be 7th grade Civics

    don’t forget the double-strength garbage bags; figure 50-65# each;

  24. I think Rand Paul is playing with fire and will be silenced shortly. Anyway, while he’s alive we should listen and support him fully.
    The link is preceded by an ad. Let it play out and then watch Rand shred the shameless vermin known as Fauchi.

    • Replies: @Notsofast
  25. Patricus says:

    I’m guessing, from Linh Dinh’s article, that he hasn’t chosen to be jabbed. As a non-scientist and non-epidemiologist I have nevertheless carefully followed this so-called Covid-19 disease. When the “vaccine” became available I considered the risks and benefits. At my age and physical condition the chances of death or significant injury from Covid are a small fraction of 1%. There are some nasty short term effects from the vaccine. Medium and long term effects are unknown. What sane person would take an experimental drug to protect against remote risks? Aren’t experimental treatments for those at death’s door? I have not seen or heard a compelling debunk of my simple logic from vax promoters. In any case I probably had Covid-19 in March 2020– three days of flu symptoms.

    They argued that the unvaxed are irresponsible Typhoid Marys recklessly spreading disease in communities. It is now evident that vaxed and unvaxed carry equal viral loads and both can spread or contract the virus equally. The unvaxed who had Covid and recovered are apparently the safest people one could hope to meet. We were promised protection from the severest symptoms of Covid if we were vaccinated. It now appears the most vaccinated populations are experiencing elevated hospitalizations and deaths. Time will tell on this last point.

    Some years from now we might read obscure articles on the Covid Hoax of 2021.

    Why would anyone receive the vaccine? I suppose the elderly or those with serious underlying medical conditions might justify these shots. Why would anyone else? It amazes me how rare are the skeptics among us.

    • Agree: Colin Wright, Jim H
    • Replies: @SafeNow
  26. raga10 says:

    South Africa with its relaxed anti-Covid measures had just under 3 million Covid cases and just under 90,000 deaths so far.

    Australia with its strict measures had just under 190,000 Covid cases and under 1,900 deaths.

    South Africa has a population of less than three times that of Australia (60 million vs 25 million). So do your own math and tell me, which of these two approaches is more effective?

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/south-africa/
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/australia

    • Replies: @Dumbo
    , @anon
  27. Dumbo says:
    @raga10

    It’s easy to pick and choose numbers from two extremely different countries to make a stupid point, or any point really, but if you compare a lot of many different countries, the reality comes up much more mixed-up.

    Germany for instance did strict lockdowns lasting months, has 70% of vaccinated people, and now has more cases than it had a year ago, where the “unvaccinated” were 100%. What gives?

    Austria (not Australia) had even stricter rules (now they are locking down the “unvaccinated”), but they don’t have so much to show for that, and I’m sure this new “lockdown” will backfire as well.

    As for Australia, it is not located in Europe and have no land borders with other countries so they were in a different reality and probably had less cases to begin with, although who knows, I don’t trust any of those numbers anyway.

    Also, it makes no sense to talk about “lockdowns” and “vaccine passports” only in relation to Covid, ignoring their consequence to society AS A WHOLE.

    It’s as if we looked at the number of automobile accidents and decided it was too high, so someone at government said, “OK, now no one can drive to work anymore, everyone must use a bicycle”, and then you have a reduction of 100% in automobile accidents, great, but, now you have people who can’t get to work and an increase in bicycle accidents. But who cares, government with their strict rules ended “automobile accidents”, right?

    • Replies: @raga10
  28. Charlie says:

    Whatever it is that’s behind this virus and the public health response, it sure isn’t reason. They’re now starting to walk back the idea of herd immunity: “We would discourage thinking in terms of a strict goal.” The LA Times tries to explain…

    “It’s a science-communications problem,” said Dr. John Brooks, chief medical officer for the CDC’s COVID-19 response.

    “We said, based on our experience with other diseases, that when you get up to 70% to 80%, you often get herd immunity,” he said.

    But the SARS-CoV-2 virus didn’t get the memo.

    “It has a lot of tricks up its sleeve, and it’s repeatedly challenged us,” he said. “It’s impossible to predict what herd immunity will be in a new pathogen until you reach herd immunity.”

    The CDC’s new approach will reflect this uncertainty. Instead of specifying a vaccination target that promises an end to the pandemic, public health officials hope to redefine success in terms of new infections and deaths — and they’ll surmise that herd immunity has been achieved when both remain low for a sustained period.

    “We want clean, easy answers, and sometimes they exist,” John Brooks said. “But on this one, we’re still learning.”

    https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2021-11-12/cdc-shifts-pandemic-goals-away-from-reaching-herd-immunity

    The takeaway…

    “Humans are not a herd,” said Kathleen Hall Jamieson, director of the Annenberg Public Policy Center at the University of Pennsylvania and an expert on the challenges of communicating science to increasingly skeptical – and often conspiracy-minded – citizens.

    And that’s our current understanding of the situation. No wonder anyone paying the slightest attention to this nonsense is starting to doubt the experts.

    ~ ~ ~

    Norman Doidge has a series of articles in Tablet called Journal of a Plague. The piece on Hydroxychloroquine is neatly written and balanced. Here he brings up the idea of vindictive denial

    What an interesting twist: Plagues always give rise to new customs, practices, and regulations. If the state can give a medication to some poor decent citizen on compassionate grounds, indeed why can’t it withhold it on vindictive grounds from a traitor and a fool (as someone who wanted the Trump drug must obviously be)?

    https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/hydroxychloroquine-morality-tale

    There’s also a long 25,000 word piece on the nonsense behind the vaccines and their rollout. Doidge gives short shrift to the idea of early treatment but otherwise presents a balanced picture of the corruption and confusion behind these vaccines.

    https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/needle-points-vaccinations-chapter-one

    All interesting and good, but what I really wanted was an excuse to post this image…

    • LOL: Si1ver1ock
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  29. @Tubib Thawr

    So I propose early therapy and chemoprevention.

    Perhaps you could provide some links for these items. With details, of course.

    Early therapy is always good. But in the US of A, short of going to an Emergency Room, getting access to a real doctor isn’t typically a speedy process. Example: the bean counters at the Medical Clinic I use shut the place down from Friday through Sunday. Walking in with a vague ailment but without an appointment gets a person a nurse practitioner. If you’re lucky.

    BTW, how is an ordinary citizen like myself to know if I have early symptoms of covid vs a head cold. Or the onset of flu? Even if I could afford it, too many visits to the doctor will get a note on the computer file that I’m a hypochondriac. And that computer file is available to just about any government gency or corporation.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_COVID-19_vaccine_authorizations

    That link lists the vaccines, and their mechanisms.
    1) RNA vaccines and DNA vaccines
    2) Adenovirus vector vaccines
    3) Inactivated virus vaccines
    4) Subunit vaccines

    I must ask how author Linh Dinh can be certain every single one of those mechanisms is defective/dangerous.

    No, from the tone of this essay, what I see is a newly converted know-all whiner. “Muh Freedums” is the theme here.

    I’m seeing more and more of that. A new “freedom” in my part of Indiana is the addition of some sort of noismaker to the exhaust system of cars. Walking towards a big box store the other day, a vehicle suddenly revved his engine, and the effect was the same as my holding a chain saw at arm’s length. The car was a good 100 yards away, and the noise was painful. Since then one of those things drove down the road here at about midnight. Both drivers were celebrating their Freedom to be complete assholes, and at the expense of other people.

    I don’t believe the “Old” Linh Dinh would have approved of such ****ishness, but the “New” one probably would. Freedom! He shows no sign here of being concerned about the welfare of anyone except for his precious self.

  30. Notsofast says:
    @Rev. Spooner

    dr. fasci’s puppy torturing experiments reveal a lot about the man. intentional animal torture cruelty or iatc is a hallmark of serial killers and other sociopaths. dr. philip kavanagh studies reveal this to be an indicator of what he calls the “dark triad” of personality disorders that include machiavellianism, narcissism and psychopathy, which explains quite well how he could knowingly harm such a large number of human beings, as he is probably deriving some sort of twisted sexual pleasure from all of this. dr fasci is merely the point of the spear (or spike protein) of a dark cabal of equally twisted verminous neocon scum and their billionaire oligarch masters. they are literally insane, just yesterday bezos said that humans would not be allowed to live on the earth and would be living in orbiting space stations to work in factories producing all future goods and that they would need special permission to visit the planet.

    • Agree: Adam Smith
    • Replies: @Liza
  31. SafeNow says:
    @Patricus

    It is now evident that vaxed and unvaxed carry equal viral loads and both can spread or contract the virus equally

    I think the “evident” and “equally”-transmitting might actually be unknown. The best study I read was the study at Sheba, in Israel, published 3 months ago, and that had severe limitations. It was an observational study, conducted by observing young women. It concluded that vaxed people are 65% less like to transmit Covid than are the unvaxed. There was funding from Pfizer and the NIH. If a rigorous study has been done, I have not heard about it. They just want to say “protect others!” and not know the data. Or they are pretty sure that rigorous data would not help them at all.

    Mark Twain once said that when everything around you has become appalling and horrible, just begin every day by eating a live frog. Then, the events of the day will seem mild by comparison. I think I am at the live-frog point.

    • Replies: @meamjojo
  32. raga10 says:
    @Dumbo

    As for Australia, it is not located in Europe

    Well, neither was South Africa last time I looked. Also, I didn’t just pick my examples at random; South Africa is the example Linh himself uses and Australia is a good counter-example because, unlike SA, it employed a number of strict measures (despite a number of missteps – Australia until recently lagged behind other developed nations in its uptake of vaccination)

    This comparison demonstrates that for all inevitable errors and problems, the alternative choice of putting your blinkers on while chanting, “nothing to see here, everything is normal!” is not in fact a winning strategy – surprise, surprise!

    • Replies: @Fidelios Automata
    , @Dumbo
  33. We, the Unvaxed, are the remnant of the human race as it occurred in nature. Or if you prefer, as it was created by God.

    • Replies: @raga10
  34. Derer says:
    @follyofwar

    Wait until 78 year old Trump, Mr. Warp Speed himself, returns from his Florida golf courses to save us in 2024?

    Not if he received the real Pfizer jabs. I wander if those, in authority pushing this spike protein for us, got really vaccinated too. Videos or pictures do not prove that real stuff was injected. We need lieutenant Colombo and affidavit.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  35. meamjojo says:

    “Now this toxin in the long term is going to get people with pre-existing illness to have those illnesses exacerbated. It has bits of prion in it. It has bits of HIV protein in it. It is definitely engineered. So, people with cancers are going to have their cancers flare up, and we’ll say they died of the cancer. People with visceral injuries or predisposition, like our diabetics and hypertensives, are going to have strokes and heart attacks, and the rest at varying times, and we’ll attribute those to their pre-existing conditions.”

    Get healthy or die What if the goal is to kill off the weak and sickened to make the human race stronger?

    • Replies: @Wild Bill
  36. raga10 says:
    @WorkingClass

    Really? You’ve had no shots for polio, measles, rabies? Not wearing glasses? Never had a tooth fixed? Congratulations then, you are indeed all natural, or if you prefer, as created by god. I think god would be a rather incompetent creator if our body was the best he could come up with, but hey – whatever floats your boat.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  37. meamjojo says:
    @willem1

    “I read recently somewhere that once these shots are classified as “childhood vaccines”, the issue of liability disappears for the pharmaceutical firms. That is why you won’t see “Comirnaty” appear on the market until that designation is granted.”

    Here you go:
    Here’s the real reason Comirnaty is not available
    It’s all about liability. It will magically become available when the vaccine for children is fully approved, not before.
    Steve Kirsch
    Nov 3, 2021
    https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/heres-the-real-reason-comirnaty-is

  38. …Big Bird, Fondling Joe and, uh, Ron Unz, etc.

    Big Bird:

    Fondling Joe:

    Nothing on Ron Unz yet.

  39. meamjojo says:
    @SafeNow

    People have to CATCH Covid first in order for it to be possible for them to transmit it to others. That does not occur all that frequently, despite what you might think from listening to the MSM. Similarly, the percentage of people with Covid that wind up in a hospital for treatment is under 1%!

    Most people who get sick from flu/Covid/etc. will stay home, isolate themselves from others and wait to get over the illness. Isolating themselves will prevent them from transmitting it to others.

    The point was that the Covid vaccines were supposed to grant someone immunity from catching Covid. This is what people believed when they all lined up to get the shots.

    When it was proven that this wasn’t happening in the real world, the messaging was changed to the Covid vaccines were only designed to REDUCE the possibility that someone would get seriously sick or wind up in the hospital.

    However, the FDA with the “approval” of Pfizer’s COMIRNATY is not on board with this change in messaging as witnessed by the use of the word “prevent” in the following quote from the approval documents:

    “Under this license, you are authorized to manufacture the product, COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA, which is indicated for active immunization to PREVENT (my emphasis) coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)”

    Now that we have much evidence that any Covid protections from the vaccines wane quickly and need to be refreshed via boosters and that breakthrough infections are rampant, the Covid messaging now gets further changed to “It concluded that vaxed people are 65% less like to transmit Covid than are the unvaxed”.

    Essentially, for the vaxxed, you don’t get the original immunity advertised/implied, you can still wind up sick and in the hospital, You can still transmit the infection to others BUT the percentage for transmission is reduced.

    And on top of that, you are taking an experimental concoction that has not been completely tested and may lead to problems like blood clots, heart issues, vascular problems, paralysis, autoimmune diseases and more.

    There is one word for people who accepted the Covid vaccines: SUCKERS!

    • Thanks: SafeNow
  40. IreneAthena says: • Website
    @Zachary Smith

    Meta-analysis studies of early treatments for SARS-Covid19. Note, many protocols use combinations of these treatments:

    https://c19early.com/

    Serious Adverse Reactions to US-licensed covid-19 vaccines. Only 1 to 10 percent of these end up being reported to VAERS:

    https://medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=VMAN&GROUP2=AGE&GROUP3=CAT&GROUP4=ONS&GRAPH=ON&GROUP6=CAT&GROUP7=VMAN&VAX=COVID19&SERIOUS=ON

  41. Charlie says:
    @Zachary Smith

    At this stage anyone denying that early treatment works is either simple or disingenuous. True, Google tries its best to suppress the info, but it’s not that hard to find a few links. Start with the FLCCC…

    https://covid19criticalcare.com/

    Some people have managed to figure it out all on their own. You treat early on first symptoms and stay the FUCK away from testing centers and hospital emergency rooms. If it’s COVID and you had the foresight to have a few cheap and safe medications on hand – IVM HCQ AZM Zinc D3 C – your odds of needing the emergency room go down by a couple orders of magnitude. If it is just the flu, the meds will probably help with that too.

    I must ask how author Linh Dinh can be certain every single one of those mechanisms is defective/dangerous.

    It’s not the mechanism but these specific vaccines. There’s lots of anecdotal information of serious short term adverse events, and no information whatsoever on possible long term problems. I think it was 9 months after rollout that the GSK swine flu vaccine was recognized to be causing narcolepsy. It was nearly 5 years from when the FDA approved Vioxx until it was pulled from the market. It should be obvious the FDA saying any drug is safe doesn’t make it so.

    And your point about loud mufflers… Are you implying my unwillingness to participate in a medical experiment and instead make my own healthcare decisions is a public nuisance? Maybe you haven’t got the memo yet. Demonization doesn’t work.

  42. @Zachary Smith

    Part Two: Finding a doctor (you may need to scroll)

    https://covid19criticalcare.com/network-support/the-flccc-alliance/

    Best to get busy with that project right away, to have supplies on hand at the first signs of respiratory distress.

    • Agree: Charlie
  43. Wild Bill says:
    @meamjojo

    “What if the goal is to kill off the weak and sickened to make the human race stronger?” Have you had a look at Gates and Fauci and Schwab and Jacob lately? Get a couple of bookends for a photo and you’ve got “A Weekend at Bernie’s”.

  44. @ IreneAthena

    Your first link had “Paxlovid” at the top, and it very well might turn out to be a world-beater Covid treatment. It’s my guess the stuff going to be far too expensive for me to take at the first hint of sniffles. Rich people can afford to keep both that and Molnupiravir in the medicine cabinet, and the \$500=\$1000 treatment won’t cause them to bat an eye. By way of contrast, a typical Insurance Company will stall long enough that the treatment will no longer be any kind of “Early”. Supposing they don’t reply with a flat Hell No. Best case situation for Insurance Companies is that they collect premiums for many years, but then you die quickly upon becoming ill. Their denial of treatments speeds up the “dying” process.

    @ Charlie

    “Zinc D3 C” – So long as a person avoids an overdose with the D3, those are both harmless at the worst and quite beneficial at the best. But I don’t see them as “early treatment”; they’re part of my daily ‘vitamin’ routine. Early in the Pandemic I saw a report from China claiming that the death rates in areas with low soil Selenium were higher than places with adequate amounts of that mineral. So since last year I’ve added a small amount of that element to my daily intake. I’ve also got a tube of Ivermectin in the fridge, but I’d have to be in very bad shape and the hospitals already full before breaking that out. What do they say about self lawyering?

    A Man Who Is His Own Lawyer Has a Fool for a Client

    I’d modify that for self-doctoring:

    A Man Who Is His Own Doctor Has a Fool for a Patient

    IMO a person has to do all he/she can to improve his chances. I don’t mix with crowds – no concerts, ball games or churches. A mask is worn every second I’m out in public, and it’s not one of the silly surgical types either. If one of my N-100s isn’t handy, I’ll slip on an N-95. There is a small bottle of antiseptic mouthwash in the car – Listerine, I think.

    But there is a limit to the self-help stuff, and I embraced vaccination when it became available. I’ll get a booster too. Prevention is a LOT better than treatment.

  45. Anonymous[209] • Disclaimer says:
    @Zachary Smith

    None of the vaccines convey immunity, and while they may reduce symptoms you have to weigh medical necessity against the harm it may do the patient. To do otherwise is unethical. Vaccinating children for instance; they don’t get sick but can have serious side effects from the injection such as cardiomyopathy. Injecting them with an experimental substance, yes as there are no FDA approved vaccines – these are clearly experimental, is a breach of medical ethics. Hospitals claim they are just following guidelines and that may explain their behavior but it does not excuse it. Nazi prison guards were just following instructions as well.

    That the companies have no liability for the vaccine under the emergency use order is telling. Besides, he has already had covid. Why should he get vaccinated.

  46. @Dumbo

    So why are they vaccinating children, if not just for money?

    • Replies: @Reverend Goody
  47. @meamjojo

    One undeniable aspect of this has been the opportunistic misleading of people with obscure (and, in some instances, redefined) terminology.

    So, looking again at your blocked quotation, might another such device be at work in the phrase following the PREVENT you’ve highlighted?

    “Under this license, you are authorized to manufacture the product, COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA, which is indicated for active immunization to PREVENT ([your] emphasis) coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)”

    So what exactly is “coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)” in this context? It may not even be a reference to infection (and, thus, transmissibility), but to a defined set of sufficiently severe symptoms. Which is how, after all, that hosannafied 95% efficacy informing the emergency use authorization was calculated.

    I’m unconvinced that my use of the products would, even colorably, benefit others.

  48. Vaccinating children for instance; they don’t get sick but can have serious side effects from the injection such as cardiomyopathy.

    Some of the kids get sick to the point of dying, but that doesn’t seem to hapen very often. No, it’s the asymptomatic kids who are the problem.

    Asymptomatic children can spread coronavirus for weeks, study finds
    https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-children-study/a-54749938

    and

    Symptomatic and Asymptomatic Viral Shedding in Pediatric Patients Infected With Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2)
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2770149

    A child who appears to be in perfect health spreading the disease around for weeks is not a trivial problem, especially for the older people he/she encounters.

    However, I agree that compulsory vaccinations doesn’t seem to be a good idea for the very young, at least not at this point. Why not set up some temporary schools for those whose parents object? 100% masking there and daily Covid tests of the sewage water.

    Regarding the no-liability, that bill was passed during the time of the first senile President – Ronald Reagan. I’ve been unable to find any breakdown of Republican/Democrat votes for the bill. Only that it was bi-partisan. Whether or not the bill was a good idea, it’s been around now for decades.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @meamjojo
    , @Blakjack
  49. @Zachary Smith

    A carpenter who builds his own cabinets has a fool for a client!
    A mechanic who changes his own oil has a fool for a client!
    A plumber who fixes his own faucet has a fool for a client!
    A farmer who grows his own food has a fool for a client!
    A chef who cooks his own food has a fool for a client!

    By the way, Lysine kills covid dead.
    So does IV vitamin C.

    • Thanks: RestiveUs
  50. Liza says:
    @Notsofast

    That one particular medical experiment on dogs is the tiny tip of a massive iceberg. Such mistreatment of animals by scientists has been going on for an almighty long time, with millions horribly sacrificed, but for some strange reason very few people ever did anything about this, with most preferring to look the other way. Lots of folks had at least an inkling, but shrugged their shoulders. “Human health is worth it! That’s what animals were placed here for! Don’t you care about cancer victims?”

    Those of you who reject the death shot – what have you ever done about these unspeakable experiments on animals? Maybe being pushed into a corner by the barking-nuts pro-vax forces is the little jab your conscience needs.

    Corona 19 was just the squeezing of the giant carbuncle – homo sapiens [sic] was crackers long before 2020.

    • Agree: Adam Smith
  51. jsinton says:

    Jeff Bezos told the world his vision of the future of the human race yesterday. Most people will not be allowed to live on the planet and Earth will be some sort of nature reserve. People will live on space platforms orbiting the Earth because there is unlimited space out there. Which means we’re all gonna die and be hunted like cockroaches because nobody is gonna pay to put 8 billion people in space. We’re all expendable now. Plandemic is just another word for extermination.

    https://www.rt.com/usa/540203-bezos-earth-population-limit/

    • Agree: Adam Smith
    • Thanks: Emil Nikola Richard
  52. @Derer

    I don’t believe for one second that the so-called Booster shot Biden received on his TV stunt was the real thing. The chance that something could go wrong, or that Biden might even croak, had to be unacceptable to those engineering this Great Reset. Same goes for Mr. Trump, although with his ultra quick recovery, and no 10 day quarantine, I wonder if he ever had Covid in the first place.

  53. Anonymous[209] • Disclaimer says:
    @Zachary Smith

    About the law – you can read about it here:

    https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB10443

    The full text of the 2005 law is here; I don’t think Regan was president then:

    https://www.congress.gov/109/plaws/publ148/PLAW-109publ148.pdf#page=140

    To my knowledge this is the first time the secretary has made a 319 (emergency use) declaration.
    Why?

    The “vaccine” doesn’t convey immunity so what would be the purpose of rounding up unvaccinated children?

    They even had to change the definition of vaccine on the CDC website. The old definition:

    “Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but can also be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.”

    You can verify this using the internet wayback machine.

    The new definition :
    “Vaccine: A preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but some can be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.”

    They had to redefine vaccine because while covid vaccines offer some protection against illness they don’t produce immunity. Given that why vaccinate kids who don’t get ill or people who have already recovered. From a medical standpoint this is unnecessary.

    • Replies: @Zachary Smith
  54. IreneAthena says: • Website
    @Zachary Smith

    Zachary Smith, (1) I’m glad you noticed the price column in the c19early.com link I shared. Compare the very low price, and the very high number of effectiveness studies, of the humble and much-maligned-by-the-mainstream-press Ivermectin, to the much higher price and much lower number of effectiveness studies, of the newer Covid-19 pills on offer.

    (2) I shared the graph and table pulled from VAERS data for a reason, too. Make of it what you will. Taking the Covid-19 shot isn’t a “one-and-done” deal. There are realities you will want to consider before you get your next Booster.

    • Replies: @Zachary Smith
  55. Charlie says:
    @Zachary Smith

    Zachary Smith says:
    November 14, 2021 at 11:36 pm GMT • 2.7 hours ago • 400 Words

    Ron’s sock puppets come and go but the message and tone are always the same.

  56. @Anonymous

    National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Childhood_Vaccine_Injury_Act

    The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act (NCVIA) of 1986 (42 U.S.C. §§ 300aa-1 to 300aa-34) was signed into law by United States President Ronald Reagan as part of a larger health bill on November 14, 1986. NCVIA’s purpose was to eliminate the potential financial liability of vaccine manufacturers due to vaccine injury claims[1] to ensure a stable market supply of vaccines, and to provide cost-effective arbitration for vaccine injury claims.[2]

    Most likely there were later legal ‘tweaks’ to the process.

    Regarding “immunity,” research for a previous post of mine found that no vaccine is 100%.

    https://www.unz.com/ldinh/mislabeling-misthinking-misanalysis-sure-death/#comment-4978744

    There is a new malaria vaccine out. It requires 4 injections, and is considered a triumph to produce 77% immunity. The TB vaccine is a lot worse:

    The BCG vaccine can be anywhere from 0 to 80% effective in preventing tuberculosis for a duration of 15 years

    It would be nice if we had a perfect Covid vaccine. So far, we don’t. It would also be nice if some kind of treatment was invented to whack the virus in the same way the early antibiotics killed bacteria. So far, that’s not happened, either. We must try to stay alive with what we have until somebody comes out with the Covid miracle prevention/treatment.

  57. @IreneAthena

    I can be as cynical as anyone about the Ivermectin thing. To prove it really works, researchers are going to have to create some large and expensive studies. Supposing the Big Drug Companies suspect it DOES work, they’ll make those studies very hard to arrange. Even more expensive. Next they will do their best to prevent publication of the results, or at least delay them forever.
    Sad to say, another Big Pharma option will be to hire some *hore scientists to run parallel rival studies which will be guaranteed to produce negative results. Thoroughly muddy the water as was done with 9/11 and the Kennedy assassination. If they can peddle a \$1,000 or \$10,000 treatment for Covid, they sure don’t want a \$5 option available.

    Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) – from the stories I’ve been reading VAERS is quite useless. Not an accident, but something both Trump and Biden wanted to happen. Trump because he was extremely proud of his vaccine, Biden because he wants to do NOTHING except vaccinate. And of course Big Pharma has no interest whatever in allowing any warts of their vaccines being recorded.

    Regrettably, my choice of the Booster is based on a ‘gut’ instinct, for I don’t trust the statistics being advertised by the three vaccine companies. IMO they’re all mighty economical with the truth – whatever that might be. But sitting on my hands isn’t an option, so I’ll trust the old ‘gut’. 🙂

    As things stand now, I figure the Covid boosters are going to be an annual event like flu shots. Perhaps the two can be combined into one dose.

  58. Welcome to our adventures in medical lawlessness. This crash course will teach all about the chronic criminal behavior of the pharmaceutical industry and their partners in crime: the CDC and FDA.

    Alas, this tale does not have a happy ending—No prisoners in prison for the habitual offenders here. No executives being led to court in hand-cuffs. No orange jump-suits, no brawls in the cafeteria. In fact, there is no justice to be found at all, except for some small fines for their myriad of crimes amounting to little more than a mild cost of doing business. So sit back, relax, and enjoy the show:

    http://tritorch.com/criminal

    • Thanks: Jim H
    • Replies: @true.enough
  59. MBlanc46 says:

    I thought that this racist punk had gotten his feelings hurt here at unz.com and decamped for parts unknown.

    • Replies: @republic
    , @Anon
  60. IreneAthena says: • Website
    @Zachary Smith

    Oh absolutely, Zachary Smith, data collection for all things Covid is… I believe the scientific term is “crap….” that’s why I TRY to remember to post the message “reported cases are estimated to be only 1 to 10 percent of the actual” whenever I post search results based on VAERS data. I used to be allowed to post VAERS data on other social media, and these posts may have enlightened the “vaccine is absolutely SAFE and EFFECTIVE” crowd, for the 12 or so hours it was displayed before they were removed by higher-ups multiple times.

    There was a large-scale real-life display of Ivermectin’s effectiveness this past June in Uttar Pradesh, India, news about which has been…surprise, surprise….suppressed. There’s a five-part series called “Behind India’s Ivermectin Blackout,” and its really a fascinating read. I’ve posted an overview… and the “big reveal” in part V.

    https://www.worldtribune.com/behind-indias-ivermectin-blackout-new-covid-cases-dropped-97-percent-in-5-weeks/

    https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indias-ivermectin-blackout---part-v-the-secret-revealed/article_9a37d9a8-1fb2-11ec-a94b-47343582647b.html

    I understand, you gotta trust your gut. But you know, even with vaccinations and boosters, break-through cases are a thing, and if you can be treated successfully, cheaply, and early, that’s a much better outcome than the possibility of being ventilated and treated with super-expensive drugs in hospital. — and you’re stickin’ it to big pharm.

  61. @Zachary Smith

    There’s nothing poisonous about Dinh’s views. As for medical expertise, we are only allowed information from one side, so there is absolutely no way to know if anything is safe. After all the lying about the Covid scam-demic, who can blame us?

  62. @raga10

    Nothing IS happening. The masks, the vaccinations, the lockdowns, all unnecessary. Except for those with compromised immune systems, the first are harmless paranoia. The second, possibly riskier than the “pandemic.” The third, pure insanity.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  63. @Dumbo

    So why are they vaccinating children, if not just for money?

    To kill as many of the little bastards as possible, and to sterilize the rest.

    These “vaccines” are the gift that just keeps on giving – they even kill babies before they’re born, and poison the babies nursing on their mother’s breast. It’s a gift from Heaven (or more accurately, Hell).

    Didn’t you know Satanists like Uncle Klaus and creepy Bill (and, for example, the entire Australian political class, and the current fake American administration) just love to kill children (and stop any more from being born)?

  64. JimDandy says:

    What’s with all these irrelevant old Jewish bustouts bitterly ranting against “Anti-Vaxxers”? You know, Howard Stern, Gene Simmons, Noam Chomsky, Fauci, etc.

    • Replies: @meamjojo
  65. Anon[274] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bugey libre

    FYI: Raoult does not treat with Ivermectin, he treats with a “bitherapy”: HCQ + azyt

    His institute has complied with French law and helped with the vaccination drive. He counsels vaccines gingerly, for those “who would die: elderly and obese”

  66. Anon[274] • Disclaimer says:
    @Blakjack

    Good to know. In my case, most —not all— are running to boost.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  67. meamjojo says:
    @Charlie

    27 Oct 2021
    Study: Common antidepressant guards against COVID hospitalization

    The readily available antidepressant fluvoxamine significantly reduced COVID-related hospitalizations, according to a large study published Wednesday.

    Why it matters: The clinical trial suggests that a cheap, readily available drug could dramatically reduce serious illness and death when prescribed early.

    • Researchers from Canada, the U.S. and Brazil honed in on the drug for its anti-inflammatory properties for the study, published in the journal Lancet Global Health ( https://www.thelancet.com/journals/langlo/article/PIIS2214-109X(21)00448-4/fulltext ).

    For the record: Fluvoxamine was approved by the FDA in the 1990s to treat obsessive compulsive disorder.

    The big picture: Participants with an early COVID-19 diagnosis were given 100 mg of the drug twice daily for 10 days. Those in the control group were given a placebo.

    • The clinical trial looked at nearly 1,500 people in Brazil. Among the participants who were given Fluvoxamine, the rate of hospitalization decreased by a third, according to the study.
    • Among the participants who followed through with the fluvoxamine protocol, only one patient in the fluvoxamine died, compared to 12 in the control group.

    What they’re saying: University of Minnesota infectious disease scientist Dr. David Boulware, who conducted his own study of the drug in coronavirus patients, told the New York Times: “It’s not a shiny new, expensive drug. The nice thing about this is it has a known safety profile.”

    https://www.axios.com/covid-study-fluvoxamine-antidepressant-20eb32f7-5103-4888-b196-3e902c047c98.html

    I’m looking for a link from which I can purchase Fluvoxamine (Luvox) w/o a prescription (100mg X 20 minimum) for my Covid kit in case I should contact it. My primary MD refuses to write a script for it.

    Any knowledge on sourcing this drug from the community? Any website is ok but I’d like to avoid those viagra pill mills if possible.

    • Replies: @Charlie
    , @The Alarmist
  68. meamjojo says:
    @Zachary Smith

    Asymptomatic children can spread coronavirus for weeks, study finds
    https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-children-study/a-54749938

    and

    Symptomatic and Asymptomatic Viral Shedding in Pediatric Patients Infected With Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2)
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2770149

    This is BS! The authors interchange asymptomatic with “mild or unrecognized disease” as follows:

    However, the vast majority of infected children have mild or unrecognized disease, and this population may play important epidemiologic roles by potentiating spread of infection through communities6 and/or boosting herd immunity. Only small numbers of children have been included in prior studies focused on kinetics of viral shedding in the setting of symptomatic or asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection.7-12 To our knowledge, no prior studies have systematically focused on the frequency of asymptomatic infection in children or the duration of symptoms and viral shedding in both asymptomatic and symptomatic children

    You can’t do that. Think about what a true asymptomatic carrier is – someone who is IMMUNE to the disease, such as they show absolutely no effects of having it, yet carry enough viral load to be able to infect others they come in contact with.

    There may be a few people in the world capable of this feat but the numbers are surely extremely small and as I posted previously, the WHO itself has not been able to demonstrate asymptomatic transmission in their labs.

    You clearly don’t understand the subject or what you are posting about. You focus on a specific word and one of a few poorly done studies and then try to drive to the conclusion you want to arrive at based on a poor foundation, which means any conclusion is fallacious.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  69. The fossil fuel industry and Rightwing ideologues have created a new strategy to stop ANY action to avert Near Term Human Extinction caused by climate destabilisation, and protect those tens of trillions in fossil fuel assets.
    Those who have seen through the multiple layers of lies, disinformation, totalitarian censorship and BigPharma corrupted ‘science’ and MSM bastardy, and realise that something nassty is afoot with CoViD19, the compulsory gene therapy ‘vaccines’ and the imbecile policies like taping masks to little childrens’ faces, are being cajoled to see anthropogenic climate destabilisation as another elite conspiracy. In fact it is the opposite. CoViD19 policy is a series of lies within lies, but climate science is real science, tested over decades and confirmed by real world observations.
    It’s a strategy that relies on the Rightwing Authoritarian Personality’s stupidity, ignorance, arrogance and paranoia. And it’s working a treat, pushed by the usual suspects, many Fossil Fuel and BigPharma (the same parasite elite)stooges, others merely trolls.

    • Replies: @mike99588
  70. @Fidelios Automata

    The masks are useless for aerosols. Possibly, if they cut down the size of the initial inoculum, the dose of virus, when in the form of droplets, they might serve some purpose. But applied to little children, who if well and not obese, are absolutely safe, they are the work of deranged, sadistic, cultists, and will prove to have harmed many of these children, some profoundly.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
  71. @Zachary Smith

    The fix on ivermectin was there from the beginning. When the initial in vitro lab results (one of many in recent years showing ivermectin’s efficacy against a wide range of viruses)from a local respected institute and a top University, came out in c.April, 2020, a local presstitute, a darling of the CoViD cultists, immediately spewed that ivermectin was ‘sheep dip’.
    So, this alleged medical ‘expert’, did not know of ivermectin’s Nobel Prize, the 3.7 billion doses given to humans with absolute safety and great efficacy. Or he did, and simply lied and vilified for some no doubt nefarious reason. Only later did ivermectin become ‘horse de-wormer’.
    Now, of course, Pfizer, as rumoured, has produced ‘pfizermectin’, that works in the exact same pharmacodynamic fashion as ivermectin, but will be one hundred times more expensive. Those who have dared point this out have been assailed by the ‘Fact Check’ Mafiosi, lying through their teeth, as usual. If we survive there really must be some sort of investigation, even if only crowd-sourced, into the diabolical crimes against humanity committed by the cultists.

    • Agree: Notsofast
  72. HalconHigh says: • Website

    Talked to an old High School friend of mine the other day.
    He was a real smart guy, National Honor Society, Class president…blah, blah.

    Anyways, he was shocked when I told him I hadn’t been vaxxed.
    “Aren’t you afraid ?” he asked….um, no not really.
    Don’t have enough money to fly anywhere, anyway.

    What’s really bothering me is the \$9.95 “Convenience Fee” added on to my rent that I have to pay every month.

  73. @SZ

    Bribes to the Vietnamese politicians from big pharma.

  74. There’s an entire world beyond the Covid box car and vaccine plunge dip.

    Indeed, and officials will tell you that the best way to get to it is through the jabottoir.

  75. Dumbo says:
    @Zachary Smith

    IMO a person has to do all he/she can to improve his chances. I don’t mix with crowds – no concerts, ball games or churches. A mask is worn every second I’m out in public, and it’s not one of the silly surgical types either. If one of my N-100s isn’t handy, I’ll slip on an N-95.

    LOL. I know people who were mask fanatics and they still got it. Others who were extremely skeptical and rarely or never used masks, never got it. I really don’t think masks help at all. Most transmission occurs inside households — or in hospitals (I know more than one person who got it in a hospital while being treated for something else). Just like the flu, actually.

    I think people used masks in Japan or China, even before Covid, not so much for fear of getting a disease, but as a form of courtesy to others, especially if you were sick and did not want to pass anything. They are more collective-minded. But as a measure of containing the spread of disease, it’s mostly useless.

    I embraced vaccination when it became available. I’ll get a booster too. Prevention is a LOT better than treatment.

    Yeah, when it works. So far, it’s ben quite a disappointment. Just like the flu vaccine, btw, which is only about 50-60% effective and needs to be repeated every year.

    If you look at the data, the number of cases and deaths do not change so much with lockdowns, masks or even vaccination — the only thing that really appears to correlate with a big increase in the number of cases is seasonality. More cases in winter, less cases in summer. This, in basically every country, independently of the measures taken. More or less like the flu.

    I think in the end, the most useful way to think about Covid is really “it’s just the flu, bro”. Maybe it isn’t literally, I wouldn’t know. I do think there are some differences. But it’s similar enough. We didn’t react to other flu seasons in this same insane way.

  76. @meamjojo

    People have to CATCH Covid first in order for it to be possible for them to transmit it to others. That does not occur all that frequently, despite what you might think from listening to the MSM.

    IIRC, in one of the original trials, the absolute risk reduction was based 0.84% infection rate in the unvaxxed versus 0.04% in the vaxxed. From that, they derived 95% efficacy.

    This of course ignores the big issue that there was no way to control for the fact that the two groups might have had differing levels of exposure to the virus or something that triggered the COVID package of symptoms … they still haven’t demonstrated COVID stems only from SARS-Cov-2… during the trial period. A human challenge trial might have been more suitable for supporting the claims being made, but that was waved away as being unethical.

    To your point, less than 1% unvaxxed roaming “in the wild” contracted the virus or something that triggered the COVID package of symptoms during the trial period.

  77. Charlie says:
    @meamjojo

    I started down the online Rx path with Dr. Syed Haider.  They will both write a script and source the meds. In the end it was going to be too expensive but I’m pretty sure Fluvoxamine was on the menu.

    https://drsyedhaider.com/

    You might also try finding something on the FLCCC Pharmacies page.

    https://covid19criticalcare.com/pharmacies/

    Fluvoxamine is the big favorite of Steve Kirsch but remains a second tier treatment in the FLCCC protocol. In a recent FLCCC Weekly Update, Dr. Kory was saying Fluvoxamine is poorly tolerated by many of his patients with complaints of dizziness and brain fog. Here’s the episode. 

    https://odysee.com/@FrontlineCovid19CriticalCareAlliance:c/FLCCC-WEBINAR-Importance-of-early-treatment-11-4-2021:d

    Maybe best would be some combination of the FLCCC I-MASK+ protocol and the Fareed/Tyson protocol based on Dr. Zelenko’s work. Dr. Tyson’s little clinic in El Centro, CA has had phenomenal success.

    https://www.thedesertreview.com/news/dr-george-fareed-and-dr-brian-tyson-share-early-treatment-protocol/article_7728815e-3ca2-11eb-8a08-7b4b0156c181.html

    Good luck with it.

  78. @Zachary Smith

    So long as a person avoids an overdose with the D3….

    You have to consume a shit-load of D3 to reach toxic levels; far more than the RDAs you see on the bottles. You probably won’t see any meaningful benefit under 5000 IUs a day.

    • Replies: @Jiminy
  79. TTSSYF says:
    @Anon

    One of my Leftist friends eagerly got double-jabbed last year and announced at that time that a “booster” would most likely be needed. So yes, some people are fully on-board with as many boosters as they’re told are needed. Others reluctantly complied with the two shots in order to keep their jobs but at least two have said they’re drawing the line at boosters. So it’s a mixed bag for me as well.

    I think as time goes on and it becomes more apparent that the virus is now endemic and the jabs are no more effective against COVID than annual flu shots are for the flu, combined with the courts shooting down the mandate as un-Constitutional, capricious, and politically motivated, people who refused the vax and thought the world’s reaction to COVID was insane are going to be vindicated. As VDH wrote in a recent article, “History will grind out the truth.”

    • Replies: @Anon
  80. Charlie says:
    @Charlie

    Oops, not AZM, whatever that might be, but AZI, azithromycin.

  81. For writing “female” so offhandedly, I’m also a fascist. There are no unambiguous penises or clitorises, but merely a continuum of jutting pudenda. Granted, half of us don’t have a lurid gash beneath our balls, but let’s not sweat that detail.

    This is something that has bothered me for a while now. The Radical Left’s philosophy seems to tied to a person’s sexuality as if sexual freedom is somehow the greatest good they know or can know.

    They maintain this even as they veer into obvious deviancy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArOQF4kadHA

  82. @meamjojo

    Seriously, you want to take a mind-conditioning SSRI during a period of heightened propaganda and mass hysteria?

    And like many anti-depressents, it may induce suicidal thinking or behaviour, particularly in younger folks.

  83. Blakjack says:
    @Zachary Smith

    Zachary Smith is either just another uninformed “expert”, or more likely a deliberate disinformation expert, better known as a troll. From the conclusion from the actual original article by Han, et. al., that he is quoting: “ The major limitation of this study is that we were not able to analyze the transmission potential of children with COVID-19. This is primarily because of Korea’s strict quarantine and isolation strategies, which minimize exposures to individuals with vulnerabilities. Thus, we could not answer the question about infectivity and the infectious period in this cohort study.”

    Zachary Smith trumpets a bolded headline multiple times that asymptomatic children spread C19, yet the article he refers to says they could prove no such thing. Zachary Smith’s methods remind of the CDC’s. Perhaps he works there?

  84. @Zachary Smith

    But I guess you’re perfectly fine with saint Chomsky’s latest “encyclical”, in which he suggests that unvaccinated people be isolated, and denied social privileges?

    • Replies: @Zachary Smith
  85. Jiminy says:
    @The Alarmist

    I’ve read an article about a product called quercetin that’s been tested for over a decade for it’s virus fighting qualities. Quercetin is a flavonoid derived from fruit and vegetables and leaves that can help the body in times of sickness. Apparently it’s taken with zinc, vitamin c and lecithin. As far back as 2008 DARPA were testing it for its anti-viral capabilities. And as it’s sold in health food shops and chemists as a herbal supplement, I don’t think authorities can successfully ban it. There’s a lot of studies on the net about the use of quercetin. I read about it firstly on the epoch times website. It seems to have quite a following.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  86. anon[370] • Disclaimer says:

    This induced mass hysteria might have a silver lining. All the compliant types who talked themselves into the snake oil might now start to question other vaccinations, most of which are bullshit:

    https://alethonews.com/2021/11/15/negative-vaccine-effectiveness-isnt-a-new-phenomenon-it-turned-up-in-the-swine-flu-vaccine/

    Having been duped, and often permanently injured, they might even start distrusting the corporatized medical proletariat of today, which bears no relation to the original profession.

    I was lucky. Corporate med parasites tricked me before COVID hit, so I knew not to trust them. There’s this test doctors tout as a substitute for an invasive procedure. So you take the test, and 1/3 of you get false positives, stampeding more reluctant patients into the procedure. I said, wait, what about all the false positives, but bullshit corporate doctors dismissed that and I held still for lucrative medical bullshit. Never again.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
  87. Dumbo says:
    @anon

    Thanks for the link. Interesting. That would explain why they are now wanting to also “jab” people against the common flu at the same time — perhaps the Covid vaccine makes you more susceptible to getting the common flu, or vice-versa? Or perhaps it’s just to reinforce the vaccine brainwash, but, it seems possible that in terms of vaccination, more is not always better. That’s why I am so skeptical of so many vaccines and boosters needed, if you need so many, how good can it be?

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
    , @meamjojo
  88. republic says:
    @MBlanc46

    He moved north to Namibia, probably because he only got a 90 day visa for South Africa.

  89. Dumbo says:
    @raga10

    Perhaps you’re unaware, but correlation is not causation. Maybe Australia had lower cases because it’s a warmer country. Or has lower population density. Or because they have all those scary animals and the virus was afraid to go there. Whatever. It could be anything. Perhaps they are just more insane, as I remember that they re-instituted a lockdown because one single 99 year old had died of Covid.

    Now, the vaccines, perhaps they help, perhaps they don’t, but at least they are a form of medication. Lockdowns are evil and stupid, and completely pointless. The data is NOT on the side of the lockdowns:

    https://alethonews.com/2021/11/15/the-geniuses-are-locking-down-again/

    Again, one thing is “quarantines”, separating sick people from healthy people, which has been practiced for ages, can be sensible. But “lockdowns”, understood as locking totally healthy people in their houses because they “might one day catch a virus”, is insane and pointless and does not work. Or they wouldn’t be (in some countries) repeating them over and over again. (They say that do the same thing over and over expecting a different result is one of the definitions of madness).

    • Replies: @raga10
  90. @Jiminy

    Quercitin is interesting, although it is not easily absorbed by the body.

    How about green tea?

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2855614/

  91. TTSSYF says:
    @Dumbo

    My understanding is that what’s being referred to as a “booster” is just a third shot of the same. If so, then it’s no more a “booster” than this year’s flu shot is a “booster” for last year’s flu shot.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  92. saggy says: • Website

    It is very odd to me that LD has joined the covidiots …. and I wouldn’t comment except that I just came across an interesting vid, based on some very complete data, with some surprising results to me …. I’ll briefly summarize (with approximate #s)
    In UK
    80% vaccinated, with 95% of population (vaxxed and unvaxxed) having antibodies !
    current infection rate per 100,000 vaccinated is significantly higher than rate per 100,000 unvaccinated !!
    …. but then nearly everyone has antibodies … so that’s weird ..
    and,
    current death rate per 100,000 vaccinated is significantly lower than rate per 100,000 for unvaccinated … and that’s weird too …

    Bottom line … get vaxxed … unless you’re <40 …. (as per stats at end of vid)

    • Replies: @Biff
  93. Anon[274] • Disclaimer says:
    @TTSSYF

    Agree. I am now starting to quietly state: “Some bodies just can’t take this vaccine. A million deaths +inhabilitations are not acceptable side effects.” I let it rest at that, they know I’m vaccinated so it kind of sinks in.

    Our minds are made to grasp truth.

  94. @TTSSYF

    “If so,” then I believe you’re precisely wrong — the flu shot is different each year because it attempts to predict and match that season’s most prevalent mutation(s). The Pfizer, et al, products need the “booster” because their claimed efficacy diminishes over several months.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  95. Frosty says:
    @TTSSYF

    ” The Covid “vaccines’” aim, then, is “to kill billions without anyone noticing it, so it’s a poison with an agenda.” ”

    If the toxin works as designed, only those who are capable of thinking for themselves and do not blindly worship authority figures will remain alive. Then what?

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  96. anon[762] • Disclaimer says:

    Could be I’m wrong. Could be I drink too much. But it sorta feels like after I took that vaccine my genius kinda left me. Usta be that I had so many ideas like a river (and tributaries) flowing through me all the time to the extent that I couldn’t keep up at all. So had to drink for awhile to slow down a little. Happened for years. But right around the same time I took the vaccine the genius which was always there died. Usta be it would come back in a few days, good as gold, but for the last few months it disappeared. Could be I just drank it away, or it could be something to do with the vaccine. I don’t know but I sure wish it hadn’t disappeared. I miss it a lot.
    Best of luck dealing with this virus while having to deal with dishonest drug companies at the same time my friend.

    • Replies: @raga10
  97. for black and brown Americans lag behind whites in Covid vaccination

    And that’s supposed to convince me vaccination is a bad thing?

    The joke is on the antivaxxers. It is interesting that high IQ conservatives generally rushed to get the jab way back in March. My ex-Army Intelligence buddy even jumped the queue to get the vaccine way before he was supposed to. This is Trump’s vaccine after all, a point Fox News seems interested in making you forget. There is also a reason vaccines are slow to get to Third World countries. COVID is a bioweapon engineered by the Chinese to wipe out the useless. Hence the high death rates among the old, the chronically ill, the obese etc. and the ridiculously low mortality for young people. If a lot of blacks, brown immigrants and white opioid addicts decide to not get the shot and die, well, that was the point in the end.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
    , @bike-anarkist
  98. raga10 says:
    @anon

    But it sorta feels like after I took that vaccine my genius kinda left me.

    You’re not imagining it! This is what happens: when they stick the needle into your arm, they sneakily use this moment to suck out your creative juices while you’re not looking – most people turn away so that makes it easier but in any case, all nurses have been trained in this procedure at secret workshops conducted at Walmart sites.

    Then (((they))) inject these sneakily collected creative juices into their own veins, thus improving their superhuman abilities even further while you’re left wondering WTF just happened.

    It’s all true, I swear.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
    , @anon
    , @TTSSYF
  99. Dumbo says:
    @Peter Akuleyev

    COVID is a bioweapon engineered by the Chinese to wipe out the useless.

    LOL. You, sir, are an idiot.

    Hence the high death rates among the old, the chronically ill, the obese etc. and the ridiculously low mortality for young people. If a lot of blacks, brown immigrants and white opioid addicts decide to not get the shot and die,

    Now you’re contradicting yourself, because if the virus only attacks the “old and chronically ill”, obviously it’s not going to kill people who simply didn’t get the shot. (anti-vaxxers, I suppose, tend to be younger than most vaxxer boomers, and blacks and latinos are on average younger than whites in the U.S.).

    I repeat: you, sir, are a complete idiot. I don’t want to read anything else by such a moron, so I have to click on the “Ignore commenter” button now. Good bye.

    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
  100. Dumbo says:
    @raga10

    You, on the other hand, are much less smart and less funny than you think you are, but I don’t think it was caused by vaccines.

    • Replies: @raga10
  101. @gar manarnar

    Now I haven’t heard of anybody else saying this, and a person would suppose the Corporate Media would be all over if it truly was a “Lefty” thing. It certainly is a dumber-than-hell thing to say.

    Maybe it’s just a Chomsky thing. Something I did discover about the guy is that he’s 92 years old. Definitely past his expiration date for “shaping societies”.

    https://www.unz.com/jcook/is-forced-isolation-of-the-unvaccinated-really-the-lefts-answer-to-the-pandemic/#comment-4975224

    • Replies: @gar manarnar
  102. anon[762] • Disclaimer says:
    @raga10

    “they sneakily use this moment to suck out your creative juices while you’re not looking – most people turn away so that makes it easier but in any case, all nurses have been trained in this procedure at secret workshops conducted at Walmart sites. ”
    Dunno about that, sounds a bit like a movie script, but something definitely disappeared.

  103. TTSSYF says:
    @Greta Handel

    Of course the flu shot is different every year. And if the COVID jab were any good, it would be different every year, or maybe even every six months. If so, it wouldn’t be a booster, anymore than the annual flu shot is a booster.

  104. TTSSYF says:
    @Frosty

    Humans take a giant evolutionary step forward.

  105. This thread is about covid, and so maybe an appropriate place for some recent news about the disease. Unfortunately bad news.

    How SARS-CoV-2 in American deer could alter the course of the global pandemic
    https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/11/10/1054224204/how-sars-cov-2-in-american-deer-could-alter-the-course-of-the-global-pandemic

    Although the virus doesn’t seem to make the animals sick, Saif says, the new data from Iowa are “very concerning.”

    30% of the animals carry the virus with no symptoms.

    Apparently deer don’t interact a lot with cattle or humans, but there are always exceptions. And it wouldn’t take many to restart a pandemic if conditions were right.

    https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/outdoors/2017/11/21/watch-friendly-8-point-buck-walk-right-up-wisconsin-deer-hunter-spoiler-everyone-lives/886557001/

  106. TTSSYF says:
    @raga10

    You two need to figure out how to meet and talk in person. You appear to have an awful lot in common, not the least of which is a mistaken belief that you have biting wit.

  107. Jiminy says:
    @Zachary Smith

    I really hope that they don’t find the virus in deer from China, otherwise it will be used as proof that the virus did begin in China, and not the backwoods of the USA. Here we have a pretty serious bat virus that seems to affect horses, but people appear to only contract the virus through close contact with an infected equine. Then it’s game over.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  108. @Jiminy

    We had all better hope that the US has not weaponised Nipah, yet.

  109. @meamjojo

    I wouldn’t believe anything that the VOA rejects at DW say on ANY subject. Particularly that odious punka-wallah they roll out whenever deranged Sinophobic hatred is called for ie almost every day.

  110. mike99588 says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    You’re undercutting your Covid position going off topic with CAGW.

  111. raga10 says:
    @Dumbo

    You, on the other hand, are much less smart and less funny than you think you are, but I don’t think it was caused by vaccines.

    Meh, my wit is only average, I know it. You on the other hand take yourself far too seriously for someone naming himself after a flying elephant.

    • Agree: Dumbo
    • LOL: Truth
    • Replies: @Dumbo
  112. Biff says:
    @saggy

    Fine, I’m not going to refute any of it, and get vaxxed if you like. I will never say it’s a bad thing for you, but don’t whine to me about refusing the jab; I don’t need it, don’t want it, and I’m definitely not a threat to anyone – biologically or otherwise.

    • Replies: @saggy
  113. In August of 2020, Belarusian President Aleksandr Lukashenko claimed the World Bank and IMF had offered him \$940 million of “Covid Relief Aid” if he would impose “extreme lockdown,” thus crashing the Belarusian economy. Lukashenko refused this cloaked bribe.

    Yup, the bribe spread covidtry around the world.

  114. Dumbo says:

    86 year old man takez Pfizer shot. Feels bad after two weeks. Is taken to the hospital where he tests negative for Covid. Then is put in a room next to a Covid patient. Gets Covid. Dies. (From Covid, or perhaps from the vaccine, it’s not very clear, but the point is that the vaxx didn’t protect him)

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8051011/

    Snow leopards die of Covid. Zoo declines to say if the animals had been vaccinated or not (many zoo animals are being vaccinated with the Zoetis vaccine, which is a former Pfiz\$er subsidiary, and uses the same mRNA technology). Weird. They were in a “lockdown”, they should have been safe.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2021/11/14/snow-leopard-death-covid/

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  115. Dumbo says:
    @raga10

    Hey, that’s probably one of Disney’s best animated movies, before they went full feminist/gay, and it even has cool “racist” black crows. It’s a good film and a good character.

  116. saggy says: • Website
    @Biff

    Refusing to get the jab is one thing, but when ‘influential’ persons claim it’s a plot to depopulate the planet, or take over the world, that’s a different kettle of fish. It’s a matter of dealing with unexpected reality with serious consequences, confounded by incomplete information. The situation raises lots of questions, what do you do on a personal level, how do you make a decision, and how does society/government make a decision and act. And it’s clear that political ideology is playing a part in interpreting medical data, which is a new phenomenon? Also the internet is giving lunatics the power to influence lots of people to make decisions that affect society as a whole.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  117. @Dumbo

    86 year old man takez Pfizer shot… Gets Covid. Dies.


    Snow leopards die of Covid… Weird.

    It starts to become a little clearer when you look into the the awful details…

    https://www.redvoicemedia.com/2021/11/epigenetics-vaccines-are-deleting-human-genes-transfecting-cells-with-ebola-marburg/

    https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/next-pandemic/marburg

    https://metanutrients.com/2021/10/31/dr-loves-detox-protocol/

    Those links are kind of a “package deal” – they support each other.

    Regarding a couple of alternatives (additions?) to Dr. Love’s protocol (might be cheaper and easier to get)…

    1. N-Acetyl-Cysteine (NAC) is an extremely safe health & body-building supplement which boosts the body’s production of Glutathione (and there was a recent push by “health” authorities to have it banned from the public – go figure).

    2. Resveratrol is a grape skin extract sold as a health supplement which (among many other helpful things) allegedly protects cellular mitochondria and restores the DNA repair function.

    3. All four of the ingredients of Dr. Zelenko’s Z-Stack protocol (Zinc, Quercetin, Vitamins C & D) can be purchased separately as health supplements.

    4. This is anecdotal (I didn’t think to save all the links) but I’ve read many testimonies of people who used Zeolite Clinoptilolite to alleviate adverse effects of the Corona Chan “vaccines”. This is only logical, given the powerful chelating action of Zeolite Clinoptilolite (which is cheap, extremely safe and readily available).

    FWIW, I believe I’ve experienced the effects of “shedding” from “vaccinated” people – each time I venture out to go grocery shopping, I start to get aches and pains that are completely abnormal for me. I get a few days isolation and the issues go away – until next I venture out to go grocery shopping. Rinse and repeat.

    • Agree: JimDandy
  118. anon[389] • Disclaimer says:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8417681/

    COVID-19 mRNA vaccination leading to CNS inflammation: a case series

    Central nervous system (CNS)

  119. Wild Bill says:
    @Zachary Smith

    Let’s see. They have never isolated the virus (or any virus) in a lab and they do not have a “test” for it that actually works, but they “found” it in deer in Wisconsin, tested them all and came to the conclusion that 33.3% of them have it. Why am I skeptical?

  120. @Peter Akuleyev

    It is interesting that high IQ conservatives generally rushed to get the jab way back in March.

    Even though you may be jabbed, the above assertion doesn’t include you.

  121. @saggy

    It’s unclear what you are trying to say.

    Refusing to get the jab is one thing, but when ‘influential’ persons claim it’s a plot to depopulate the planet, or take over the world, that’s a different kettle of fish.

    [***]

    The situation raises lots of questions, what do you do on a personal level, how do you make a decision, and how does society/government make a decision and act.

    [***]

    Also the internet is giving lunatics the power to influence lots of people to make decisions that affect society as a whole.

    Please clarify:

    1. Should use of the Pfizer, et al., products remain a personal choice?

    2. Do you advocate any of:

    – compulsory injections
    – sanctions for decliners
    – suppressing the free speech of whichever “‘influential’ persons” you consider “lunatics”?

    • Replies: @saggy
  122. @Zachary Smith

    This is nonsensical fearmongering. If you can’t recognize that, you are intellectually impaired.

  123. Numa says:

    While it is well, and even necessary to be sceptical about important issues challenging orthodox positions, as extraordinary claims do indeed require extraordinary evidence – the ‘vaxx’ issue does indeed warrant special note.

    First it should be noted that mRNA engineering is NOT genetic engineering, and that the technology got its start decades ago during attempts to use it for replacing proteins missing from patients genetic deficiency diseases.

    It met with notable failure due to cells affected by the treatment being attacked and destroyed by the immune system.

    One researcher, Dr. Robert Mallone, then proposed that the technology be repurposed for vaccines, since it worked so damn well at producing an immune response.

    The Long History of mRNA Vaccines | Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
    https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2021/the-long-history-of-mrna-vaccines

    It was first tried on Ebola. And failed (though the article fails to note this).

    The first ever widespread use was for SARS-2 the wuflu. An RNA virus. From a family of which *there has never been* a successful vaccine – of any type.

    Other RNA virus vaccines have also had spectacular failures, such as Mareks, FIPS, and Dengue Fever – often not appearing until years later. Mareks vaccine is an absolute disaster for the poultry industry.

    In other words, the ‘Vaxx’ is no vaccine in any traditional sense. It is untested – as RNA vaccines take *years* for approval, due to the unknown consequence of the mutation rate on the humoral immunity system which can cause totally undesirable consequences.

    It is a bit difficult to accept that Med/Pharm is at least a generation behind biochemistry/virology. But that assertion is continually proven, from the deprecated genetic theory behind GMO’s to the use of statins – HMG-CoA Reductase Inhibitors which interfere with one of the most crucial enzyme systems in nature.

    It is wise to accept expert opinions on important issues, but foolhardy to accept the edicts of those who claim expertise but are fully chained by regulatory capture. The expertise can be found in research journals going back a decade and more, before the issue was politicized.

    This is all without even mentioning the S-Protein, for which there is a large cache of research of its effects – as a toxin.

    Its certainly a good idea to supplement with anti-oxidants and apo-enzymes – any Biochem 101 text would show their necessity in living organisms.

    I take statins. And supplement with CoQ10. Physician agreed. Muscle cramps disappeared.

    For vaccinated, low dose aspirin, and low level anticoagulants would probably be advised. High dosage melatonin which acts as a platelet thinner might be considered. Antidotes for this toxin are purely in the hypothetical stage now.

    • Thanks: Polemos
  124. “There are no unambiguous penises or clitorises, but merely a continuum of jutting pudenda.”

    Brilliant, Linh. Just brilliant.

    • Agree: Jim H, gsjackson
  125. @ Wild Bill
    @ Not Important

    While sitting in a parking lot earlier, I had the radio tuned to a Chicago station while munching on a fast food snack. The news story under discussion was the re-surfacing of the Covid problem with the local/regional hospitals being filled to the brim.

    Now I admit I know nothing about these two posters, but it’s safe to speculate that if either has been vaccinated, they regret that decision now. Very probably both are White, and I’d bet a dollar to a donut they both consider themselves to be “Christian”.

    So, if either of them ends up in a hospital on account of their Denial, I woner how they’ll rationalize their tying down a bed which might be needed for someone who needs surgery. Or who has had a heart attack or stroke.

    One of the two Chicago rdio announcers flatly stated that if you had such a sudden illness requiring hospital treatment, “Good Luck”.

    Will the proud Deniers rationalize that because they are White and Christian and Republican, the barbaric folks not like themselves deserve what they get?

    There is a TV preacher who has come right out and said The Bible Is His Flu Shot, and Christians Don’t Die From Covid. He cites as an example the heroic figure of Donald Trump emerging triumphantly from the hospital. Trump = Christian. Trump surivived. If you are a True Christian, so will you.

    So to hell with everyone else. Me/Me/Me is all that matters.

    American Exceptionalism on the smallest scale.

    ~~~~~

    Among the Unvaccinated
    https://intellectualinting.substack.com/p/among-the-unvaccinated

    IMO facts and sweet reason are not going to influence these people. Quite a few of them will die, and they’re going to do great harm to innocent bystanders. I haven’t seen the slightest bit of evidence they care about the latter event. “Owning” the libs is that important to them. Remember the fellow who held his pistol while he shot a youtube video mocking the libards? In the process he put a .45″ in hole in one of his testicles, and was praised as a hero by his peers. Boy oh boy, but did he do the monster mash on those liberal dunces, or what!

    • Replies: @meamjojo
    , @gar manarnar
  126. @Charlie

    Thank you for that. I suspect that poster is envious of Linh’s verbal and critical skills.

  127. saggy says: • Website
    @Greta Handel

    It’s unclear

    That’s what I was trying to say. It is, ultimately, unclear. But not everything is unclear, some things seem reasonably clear. Where covid came from is unclear. But the idea that it was a deliberate ‘attack’ as per, for example, Unz, plus a wide range of assorted nuts, is clearly idiotic.

    What to do about it is unclear. The fact that everybody in UK has antibodies to covid and the infection rate is high is a bad sign, suggesting that it may be here for a while and that is unsettling.

    The effectiveness of the vaccines is unclear.

    What about China. Is their data real? That’s unclear. But it if is then clearly we should be doing what China has done. From worldmeter – new cases in China today 52.

    – compulsory injections – unclear, if the disease is or becomes bad enough and the vaccine is effective, I’d say yes. Unclear at present.

    sanctions for decliners – Same answer.

    suppressing free speech of lunatics – Same answer.

    We have been since birth indoctrinated with the combined notions of ‘democracy’ and ‘free speech’… but democracy is really almost an idiotic idea …. and we’re so indoctrinated we want to make it more idiotic … let ‘everyone’ vote … bums, mental patients, felons, et. al. This is an idea that shouldn’t be taken seriously, but is gospel.

    Combine ‘democracy’ with the notion of giving complete lunatics a direct line into the home of everyone on the planet via the internet …. clearly this is idiotic.

    Think about how totally insane the bulk of the human race is … e.g. Christians who believe “Jesus died for our sins” … I mean, in a rational world these people would be put in asylums, ditto Jews, Muslims …. I don’t know enough about the other religions to make a judgment, but clearly everyone who really believes any of the ‘Abrahamic’ religions is not of sound mind.

    Unclear is putting it mildly.

    • Disagree: Greta Handel
  128. The Freedom-Loving Covid Deniers have evolved a new strategy to protect both their jobs and their health in this age of Government Mandates.

    The “Jabbers’ Remorse”, or “detox the vaxx”, or “pull out the poison”.

    Covid vaccine holdouts are caving to mandates — then scrambling to ‘undo’ their shots
    https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/covid-vaccine-mandates-push-holdouts-get-shot-detox-rcna4859

    Mostly this article speaks of a big bathtub where the victim of Big Government removes the poisons from his system by adding many interesting ingredients to the bath water. But I also saw some variations. Old outdoors books would write about taking a razor blade and making some slices around the site of a snake bite before starting to suck out the venom. Now they can do the same for the poison they had forced into them! Then there is the technique of jamming another needle into the vaccination region and trying to draw out the Covid Venom with that!

    Perhaps the Freedom people have forgotten what the Cheeto-Dusted Christian Doctor Trump suggested.

    Go to a tanning booth place and use the UV light to obliterate that Covid Poison!

    “So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light — and I think you said that that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and I think you said you’re going to test that, too. It sounds interesting. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that.”

    Got to admit I’m not enough of a Real Man to shove a brightly lighted sponge soaked with Chlorox up my rear end. Small wonder I’m not a huge fan of the Fat Orange Christian Healer.

    Hey, maybe the True Believers could compromise and put 1/2 teaspoon of Chlorox in the detoxing bath water, and turn on some really, really bright lights while soaking in the bathtub.

    What’s to lose! Only those deadly poisons They forced you to accept into your healthy body.

  129. Trump pivoted the world from Globo-Homo to Globo-Gaza. Then he feigned reluctance while he brutally fucked the free enterprise system in any way possible. Tearing new holes to fuck it in places unimaginable for thousands of years.

    Those blue single use masks (disposable), may as well have the star of david printed on them. Like a Hitler salute, it’s a quick way to see who’s loyal or too chickenshit to oppose their regime.

    Forcing people to buy those masks and wear them must be a source of unmitigated glee for assholes like Trump and his shit lib pals.

  130. @Charlie

    ‘…But the SARS-CoV-2 virus didn’t get the memo.

    “It has a lot of tricks up its sleeve, and it’s repeatedly challenged us,” …’

    That’s one of the reasons I suspect it was a germ warfare project that got out before it was ready.

    Obviously, horrific lethality is the last attribute one wants to impart, but the Corona Virus checks a lot of other boxes.

    • Replies: @Charlie
  131. Charlie says:
    @Colin Wright

    ‘…But the SARS-CoV-2 virus didn’t get the memo.

    “It has a lot of tricks up its sleeve, and it’s repeatedly challenged us,” …’

    You’re quoting the LA Times and the CDC’s chief medical officer. Not exactly unbiased sources.

    Obviously, horrific lethality…

    SARS-CoV-2? It’s only horrifically lethal when your doc tells you to go home, take paracetamol, and check into A&E when your lips turn blue, which is STANDARD OF CARE in most of the West. So I guess you’re not wrong in a strict sense.

    ~ ~ ~

    There’s an excellent interview with Denis Rancourt on TLAV. His new paper looks at historic all-cause mortality and comes up with some interesting hypotheses, first of which is that people are not dying of a respiratory disease called COVID but rather a public health disaster called Fauci. Chief factors correlated with current excess all-cause mortality: poverty, obesity, and for the US South last summer, heat, all leading to chronic stress and compromised immunity. He notes public health warned docs against over prescribing antibiotics because it’s a virus, and that led to a huge spike in serious, and often fatal cases of bacterial pneumonia. Rancourt cites the large drop in antibiotic scripts in 2020 and 2021. @1:10:00 …

    I have to admit that someone like Fauci absolutely knows that there is an epidemic of bacterial pneumonia happening. He absolutely knows therefore that the recommendations not to use – not to overuse, in their terms – antibiotics is going to cause incredible amounts of deaths, and he’s probably thinking, “Great, then there’s proof there’s a pandemic.”

    All interesting, and maybe explains why many of the successful early treatment protocols include antibiotics like azithromycin or doxycycline. Also it’s a wonder the FLCCC doesn’t include antibiotics in their early treatment protocols.

    Check it out on Odysee…

    https://odysee.com/@TLAVagabond:5/TDWU-11-16-21:a

    Rancourt’s paper…

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/355574895_Nature_of_the_COVID-era_public_health_disaster_in_the_USA_from_all-cause_mortality_and_socio-geo-economic_and_climatic_data

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  132. meamjojo says:
    @JimDandy

    They are part of the establishment.

  133. meamjojo says:
    @Dumbo

    They want to change the flu vaccine technology to mRNA because it is cheaper and faster to produce, thus they can make more profits.

    I just don’t think it is a good idea to make your own cells look like a target to train the immune system with. Now or in the future!

    • Replies: @Stephane
  134. meamjojo says:
    @Zachary Smith

    Enough is enough. You are now being ignored. Buh-bye.

    • Agree: Charlie
    • Replies: @gar manarnar
  135. Anonymous[317] • Disclaimer says:
    @raga10

    Your name is Legion.

    • Replies: @raga10
  136. @Charlie

    ‘Obviously, horrific lethality…’

    Read my whole sentence, slowly and carefully.

    • Replies: @Charlie
  137. @meamjojo

    hmm, I thought you said you were against denying social privileges to unvaccinated . . oh well, fool me once and all that.

  138. Charlie says:
    @Colin Wright

    Obviously, horrific lethality is the last attribute one wants to impart, but the Corona Virus checks a lot of other boxes.

    Doesn’t seem that complicated. You’re arguing the virus is man-made and probably a bio-weapon, which I would agree with. Check.

    Obviously, you wouldn’t want a bio-weapon to have horrific lethality because it’s advantageous to cripple your target tending to the very sick as opposed to just stacking up bodies. Check.

    but the Corona Virus checks a lot of other boxes

    So the Corona Virus checks a lot of other boxes that would imply it’s lab-made and possibly a bio-weapon EXCEPT for the fact it’s horrifically lethal, to which I answer it’s only horrifically lethal if patients don’t get early treatment. It would actually be a shit bio-weapon considering how many cheap, save and effective drugs work to prophylax against, and if necessary, treat the illness.

    And if that’s not what you’re talking about it’s not my reading comprehension that’s to blame.

    • Agree: mike99588
    • Replies: @Charlie
    , @Colin Wright
  139. raga10 says:
    @Anonymous

    Your name is Legion.

    But you aren’t Jesus, and there are no pigs anywhere nearby.

  140. Charlie says:
    @Charlie

    Correction: SARS-CoV-2 would be a shit bio-weapon UNLESS we had Col. Anthony Fauci heading up the medical corps.

  141. @Charlie

    ‘…Obviously, you wouldn’t want a bio-weapon to have horrific lethality because it’s advantageous to cripple your target tending to the very sick as opposed to just stacking up bodies. Check….’

    My thinking is more that if you’re tinkering with a virus, you don’t want to make it a killer until you’ve got everything else just right; nobody wants one dropped beaker to kill everyone in the lab.

    So the Chinese are fiddling with their virus, and it gets out — but it’s not a killer yet. That would be the last attribute they’d assign to it. Mutability, unpredictability, virulence, resistance to vaccines — all those first.

    Such is one possibility, to my mind.

    • Replies: @Charlie
  142. raga10 says:
    @Dumbo

    Perhaps you’re unaware, but correlation is not causation.

    I’m quite aware, but thanks for the reminder all the same.

    Maybe Australia had lower cases because it’s a warmer country. Or has lower population density.

    It isn’t; their climates are quite comparable. As for density, yes it is lower on average, but average is meaningless – it’s not like people are evenly distributed. Most of the population of Australia is squeezed into a small area; in fact Australia is one of the most urbanised countries on Earth in the sense that it has one of the highest percentages of its population living in the cities.

    Or because they have all those scary animals and the virus was afraid to go there. Whatever. It could be anything.

    Well yes, it could be that virus is scared of wombats. Or it could be the measures undertaken. But I take it you’re leaning towards the wombat theory? Solid choice.

    The data is NOT on the side of the lockdowns:

    Depends on which data you pick. For example this paper
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32495067/ concludes:

    Results suggest that lockdown is effective in reducing the R0, i.e. the number of people infected by each infected person, and that, unlike what has been suggested in previous analyses, its efficacy continues to hold 20 days after the introduction of the policy.

    I do agree that lockdowns have side effects on economy, mental wellbeing and other aspects of health (no exercise, increase in drinking etc) and this is where you start making judgement calls that will never please everyone. But making a blanket statement that “lockdowns are stupid” is, well, stupid.

    Australia was also lucky in that it had the luxury of closing its borders; something that many other countries didn’t have. That doesn’t discredit this measure though, just the opposite – it demonstrates that closing your borders IS effective, IF it can be applied.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
  143. mike99588 says:
    @bike-anarkist

    Not “generally” (=all).
    Not me. 999

  144. @Zachary Smith

    hmm, I thought you said you were against denying social privileges to unvaccinated . . oh well, fool me once and all that.

    • Replies: @meamjojo
  145. Charlie says:
    @Colin Wright

    Got it. And I’m only repeating what I’ve heard so people should step in here and correct me. But I thought that making a bio-weapon extremely lethal was NOT a goal. It’s better to have legions of desperately ill using up all the available resources, yet lingering on and on. Like what was happening with ventilators early in the pandemic, people lingering on for weeks taking up ICU resources. I imagine it would be horrifically demoralizing to have to start pulling the plug on your own compatriots because the damned bio-weapon didn’t quite finish the job.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  146. @Charlie

    ‘…I imagine it would be horrifically demoralizing to have to start pulling the plug on your own compatriots because the damned bio-weapon didn’t quite finish the job.’

    Yeah — but the Coronavirus is so innocuous that we could simply ignore it and be the better for it. As it stands, it’s only an efficacious weapon if we pay attention to it. For example, at some point when Hawaii had already gone bonkers and closed everything, I noticed that their total deaths from the virus were less than the average death toll from drowning in the same period. I must have missed the part where Hawaii permanently banned swimming on account of the danger…

    It’s sort of like if I decide to drive you out of the neighborhood by giving fleas to your cat. What if you simply ignore the fleas?

    • Replies: @Charlie
    , @Dumbo
  147. Charlie says:
    @Colin Wright

    Fleas might not be the best analogy. My dog gets fleas and I’m going to do something about it.

  148. Dumbo says:
    @Colin Wright

    Given the absolute failure of the vaccines to contain the Covid pandemic so far, I am re-considering the idea that it could really be a “bioweapon”, which I didn’t believe much at first. Perhaps the idea is to keep us worrying and talking to death about the “coronavirus” until we all die of boredom or stress, whichever comes first.

    Or perhaps the vaccine is the “bioweapon” in some way, as it seems mostly useless as a sterilizing vaccine (perhaps it reduces symptoms, as the manufacturers say, perhaps it causes myocarditis as others say, whatever, but it sure as hell is not stopping anything from spreading). Ireland with 93% vaccinated and Gibraltar with 100% are mandating lockdowns. But they are still betting on more vaccines. Fauci is now saying that we’ll achieve “herd immunity” with “300%” vaccinated (i.e. everyone vaccinated 3 times). LOL. At this point, is it even “herd immunity”? Well, the common cold has no “herd immunity”, so this is similar I guess.

    To be honest, I have no idea what is going on anymore.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Anonymous
  149. Charlie says:

    Hey Linh. Thanks for the article and what a great title. @The Alarmist knocked it out of the park with the jabottoir riff. Funny detail. The eagle & snakes image in one of my earlier comments links back to Tablet Magazine so when someone first loads the comments in your article a request goes back to Tablet for the image. That request includes this bit of info…

    Referer: https://www.unz.com/

    Some enterprising admin working for Tablet might notice the increased activity and follow it back to The Unz Review. It would be a little more difficult to identify your article as the source of the request but what a laugh if they did. Ron might end up with a cease and desist order.

  150. @Adam Smith

    Carved in granite…..the Georgia Guide Stones tell the plan.

    • Replies: @Polemos
  151. @Dumbo

    ‘…To be honest, I have no idea what is going on anymore.’

    This is really it.

    So everyone keeps inventing explanations. We know we don’t know — but we also know we can’t trust what we’re told. They don’t know either.

    We’re like a lot of baffled savages. We keep throwing virgins into the volcano — but the earthquakes don’t stop.

    Sometimes I wish there was a deep-laid plan. Then at least it would follow that someone knew what they were doing. I think it’s worse than that.

    No one knows what they’re doing. It’s all a school bus, careening down a mountain road, with a bunch of chimpanzees fighting over the steering wheel. Whee…

  152. Polemos says:
    @Reverend Goody

    Do you ever wonder if we have it wrong?

    What if the Guidestones really are meant not for you, or us, or anyone living right now, but for the great-grandchildren of the people who survive the coming Catastrophe, the one the people who paid for the Guidestones have been preparing their own people for over hundreds of years?

    What if the Guidestones are not the tool of an elite for self-congratulation, but as much a warning and a guide and a demonstration as all the other various movies, songs, poems, artworks, and parts of the Lore —the over-arching Myth of our time— all meant to help those who take the time and have the patience, or discipline, to put all the pieces of the puzzle together, to learn that there is going to be such a Catastrophe that it will be unavoidable, unstoppable, universal, and so thorough in altering the dynamics of human life that its effects, powerfully traumatic and thoroughly horrifying yet awesomely spectacular, sent its ripples backwards into the past to lay seeds in the dreams and visions of the gifted and the sensitive , who then tried desperately to tell others in ways they believed would help them, all without violating the divine karmic path?

    That’s a lot of If, I know. It’s probably much easier to accept that it’s guys like Gates and Schwab who want to kill us all to save the planet for themselves. It’s much harder to accept that, very likely, we’re headed towards an Event none of us will survive, very soon, and that all of these attempts to debilitate and weaken, to lockdown the people inside artificial borders, are meant to keep them from figuring it all out and storming the Cheyenne Mountain Complex where they’d have a chance to survive it.

    So, maybe having read and grasped the thinking behind Garrett Hardin’s ethical lifeboat, they know it’s better for the whole of the species to let the drowning go. Having understood the meaning and the message behind Krishna’s admonishment to Arjuna, they know that nothing that dies ever really lived, and nothing that lives ever really dies. So long after the doors close, and the skies fall, and the seas wash over the stalled earth, and the towers collapse, and the undying stars gather the living dust together to study and ponder over for thousands more years, when the gifted children come out and seek to repopulate the earth, as they have been doing several times before, there the Stones will stand, not far from where the Cherokee marked the Center of the World, and remind them, guide them, towards the next Age.

    After all, who wants to live with petty laws and useless officials? Only losers, right?

  153. @Colin Wright

    You might like the article that the comment in this link is replying to (with an opposing view). I like both the article and the comment, as well as the article’s author.

    https://eugyppius.substack.com/p/stupid-and-evil-in-equal-measure/comment/3573864

    Here’s part of that comment:

    … You wonder what’s going on. You start to panic, and grab a bucket and try to carry water from the lake across the street to put an end to this charade.

    Your neighbor stops you and explains that water can’t put out a fire. What? Wasn’t that how fires have always been put out? No, he says, that’s misinformation from arsonists. The only way to put out the fire according to fire science is with liquids like gasoline…

    But the fire is now spreading towards the school. He says the only solution is to soak the school in the chemical that smells like gasoline.

    As you’re starting to question his strategy he says the only way to find out if the fire is put out by the chemical is to let it reach the school while the children are inside, and anyone who objects is a child murderer.

    • LOL: meamjojo
  154. @Colin Wright

    We should stop throwing virgins into the volcano, and start throwing in filthy whores.

    Seriously though, I think this Covid thing is similar to the usual US empire approach in that it tries to « use all parts of the buffalo. » Like in wars, where they burn through ammo (necessitating more, and budget increases), extort to get reconstruction contracts, create « moderate rebels », strengthen Israel’s position, get the oil, etc. etc. etc.

    Make people sick with the covid, make people sick with the « vaccines », sabotage the economy, make money from the « vaccines », ratchet up the police state, set one half of people against the other, etc.

    So of course it’s a messier equation to understand. « Are middle east wars for Israel, or for the oil ? »

  155. Dumbo says:
    @raga10

    Ragazzo,

    If lockdowns worked, we wouldn’t have Covid anymore. But that’s not happening, is it? I mean, it’s been more than two years now. At what point do you realize something doesn’t work? At most, lockdowns may keep the disease at bay for a little while (and even that is doubtful, because if you check the data in most countries, it does not work even for that). Unless you mean a permanent lockdown, forever, which seems unpractical, then I don’t see this method working at all.

    The most clear change in terms of Covid cases and hospitalizations is seasonality. More cases in or around Winter, less cases in Summer. That’s it. That’s the only reliable variable, so far. Now Fauci is saying that a “booster” will solve tings by Spring – taking credit from seasonality, of course. Of course cases will be reduced in Spring. Booster or no booster.

    Even the vaccines seem worthless. Besides possible side effects, I was hoping that they would at least stop the spread, but they are not. They might be even making it worse. Perhaps they reduce symptoms, I don’t know, but perhaps in that case they create those “asymptomatic spreaders” that didn’t exist before, or were not so common, and making other people sick, either the vaccinated with a weak immune system, or those whose “booster” expired, or those non-vaccinated.

    In any case, current data from Germany, Ireland, Holland, Denmark, Gibraltar, etc, all indicate that the spread is not stopping, even with 80-90% vaccinated. So I don’t see this ending. Even if you have 100% vaccinated, their vaccines will expire, as it doesn’t seem to last more than six months, so you’d have to constantly check, it’s a nightmare, a veritable dystopia.

    Lockdowns, vaccine mandates, etc, are just throwing gasoline into the fire. But I don’t have a clear solution. Except to stop trying to stop a fire with gasoline. It won’t stop the original fire, but at least it doesn’t make a bad situation worse, as virtually all policies have done so far.

    • Replies: @mike99588
    , @meamjojo
  156. mike99588 says:
    @Dumbo

    Natural immunity + aggressive prophylaxis and/or early treatment.

    Go beyond FLCCC.net dosages on IVM and nutraceuticals for Delta+.
    Back it all up with a cheap oxygen concentrator at home.
    Even better high dose IV vitamin C with a friendly local nurse.

    These high dose vitamin and off label drugs really take the fear factor out for the most comorbid – like me, with demonstrated performance.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  157. Anonymous[317] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dumbo

    What is going on is quite clear: Gates and Schwab are not hiding anything. Depopulate the planet down to 500,000 and the Great Reset which is to enslave the GMO remnant to serve the the masters. They have been talking about this for a hundred years and you still “don’t know what is going on?” And they call(ed) you Homo Sapiens?

    • Replies: @MarkU
  158. Anon[410] • Disclaimer says:
    @MBlanc46

    “I thought that this racist punk had gotten his feelings hurt here at unz.com…”

    Just move along, Hymie. You won’t be missed.

  159. @mike99588

    Vitamin D is a key prophylactic, and the absolute refusal of the medical Mafiosi to prescribe it, particularly for the elderly and those at risk from co-morbidities, and the even more villainous denigration of it, along the ‘ivermectin is horse de-wormer ‘ tripe, by scum including BBC vermin, hopefully will, one fine day, be treated as criminal disinformation leading to unnecessary deaths.

  160. @bike-anarkist

    ‘High IQ conservatives…’?? It is to laugh.

  161. MarkU says:
    @Anonymous

    If it is a depopulation measure its been planned by the intellectually challenged, the birth-rate in about half the world would hardly be affected. Either it is a deliberate attack on the most developed nations (except China) or it is just the beginning of a much longer campaign. True, your claim cannot be entirely ruled out (perhaps I am over-estimating the intelligence of our evil overlords) but my gut tells me that if ‘vaccinated’ people start dying off in large enough numbers the gig will be up.

  162. meamjojo says:
    @gar manarnar

    hmm, I thought you said you were against denying social privileges to unvaccinated . . oh well, fool me once and all that.

    That is correct. But it has nothing to do with me personally having to suffer fools.

    • Replies: @gar manarnar
  163. meamjojo says:
    @Colin Wright

    “We keep throwing virgins into the volcano — but the earthquakes don’t stop.”

    Clearly we need more virgins!

  164. meamjojo says:
    @Dumbo

    Great comment!

    “Lockdowns, vaccine mandates, etc, are just throwing gasoline into the fire. But I don’t have a clear solution.”

    I’m unsure but didn’t China and Russia go with the classic weakened virus vaccines? I wonder if those are performing better?

    Sure they may only achieve 50% efficacy, little different than what an annual correctly targeted flu vaccine might achieve but these weakened virus vaccines should actually kill the Covid virus so that populations don’t keep spreading/transmitting them. And you don’t have all the problems that potentially follow from training the immune system to attack our own cells when the fake spike proteins pop their heads out of a cell.

    I would take a weakened/dead Covid vaccine shot but want nothing to do with any variations of the mRNA shots, whether with Covid or any other future applications to other illnesses such as the flu.

  165. MarkU says:
    @meamjojo

    I have heard it said that the Chinese vaccine is an old style vaccine. Sputnik V on the other hand is pretty similar to the AstraZeneca ‘vaccine’, it just uses a different virus to smuggle the mRNA into your cells. Even traditional vaccines aren’t guaranteed to be safe though, vaccine development would be a lot easier if they were.

  166. @Dumbo

    Ummm, why? There are two more reasons and both have solid and growing evidence in their favor as well. Sterilisation and KILLING the children. This is as the most qualified people in the relevant fields of medicine and science that I know of say, a direct and massive cull. Part of a long since announced depopulation agenda.

  167. I had planned to write about a meeting I had two days ago with what I presume to be a victim of the spike protein getting to the brain. I know this guy. He didn’t know his own name, his skin was falling off and much more I am suddenly not feeling much desire to talk about. His mind was like it had been through a blonder. (typo, but I couldn’t resist the pun when I saw it… I meant blender)

    He got the jab 6 months ago and wasn’t getting anymore, as the site had never healed. It was swollen and oozing. Two weeks ago he was normal. Then two days ago he was a zombie except for no obvious lust for brain eating. Yet. I felt a definite belligerence which was seeking outlet and though he never bothered me before, I kept upwind and maintained distance, It was frankly very freaky. I also have two bipolar kids and one of them is manic schizophrenic. Him when he was in a full episode if he didn’t take his meds was the closest to what this guy was like. He doesn’t use drugs. I’ve known him for years and he knows about my son. Never said he was on meds. I’m horrified at the thought this may be a result of the spike protein entering the brain as is feared. Rapid onset dementia. Aggression is in there too. The brain stem is the least damaged so the reptile brain still functioning. Literally a “Stemmer” if this condition is degenerative which it must be. I am not joking when I say Zombies are going to come out of this.

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
    , @durd
  168. @meamjojo

    No. Russia and China did the same as everyone, because nobody happens to have an actual sample of the virus./ Nobody can provide any evidence anybody ever did have. I kid you not. They only have, as has everyone else, the genome. Neatly mapped out in a single week by the Chinese at the outset. An astounding record for which they received well earned approbation, if perhaps not enough attention as to how they did this. I feel confident in suggesting they did the same as everyone else, including the Russians and all pharma companies. They bought rights to the patent from Billy Boy’s outfit. It was made in a lab and there are seventy patents in its history. It has a patent number, which was applied for earlier but passed just in time for the COVID games.

    The Russian and Chinese vaccines are based as are they all the spike protein. The spike protein IS the bioweapon. The virus was a poor vector for it, but the jabs are perfect for delivering billions of them even trillions I think in one of them. Mate there is no pandemic. None of the shots are vaccines in the traditional sense and they are all fraught with horrific expected and we are seeing, side effects. The worst is yet to come.

    • Replies: @Polemos
  169. meamjojo says:

    Here are some super Covid reading materials! This info needs to be spread around. Send it to your local newspapers. Send it to pro-vax columnists. Send it to CNN/MSNBC/all of network TV. And send it to Congress. Keep the pressure on, just as they are keeping the “get vaxxed” pressure on.
    ———–
    180 questions about the COVID
    vaccines that nobody wants to
    answer

    Steve Kirsch, Executive Director
    COVID-19 Early Treatment Fund
    [email protected]
    Oct 26, 2021
    https://www.skirsch.com/covid/VRBPAC-10-26-21.pdf

    Vaccine essentials
    Steve Kirsch, Executive Director
    COVID-19 Early Treatment Fund
    [email protected]
    stevekirsch.substack.com
    Nov 18, 2021
    https://www.skirsch.com/covid/VaccineEssentials.pdf

  170. Stephane says:
    @meamjojo

    They want to change the flu vaccine technology to mRNA because it is cheaper and faster to produce, thus they can make more profits.

    As fr as I cant tell, faster and more flexible, but not cheaper.

  171. Stephane says:
    @meamjojo

    I’m unsure but didn’t China and Russia go with the classic weakened virus vaccines? I wonder if those are performing better?

    China has at least one desactivated virus vaccine in the pipe, I don’t know if they are already using it.

    Russia’s main choice is a different technology, it’s an adenovirus-vectored vaccine similar to J&J and AstraZenecca.

    • Replies: @Rabbitnexus
  172. anon[371] • Disclaimer says:
    @raga10

    The South African population is estimated at 60.14 million people, Australian population estimated at 25.902 million. Somewhere your arithmetic lets you down. Further to this a large proportion of the south African population is contained in informal settlements and the like, whereas most Australians live in formal housing. The black South African population mostly still believe in witchcraft, I think you will find that very few (possibly only about 250,000 people) do. Comparisons like this are odious especially when made from he standpoint of incorrect figures.

    • Replies: @raga10
  173. @Stephane

    Smoke and mirrors. They are all concentrating on the spike protein, no matter how they go about it. There are reasons why this means they are all hazardous. This is a foreign protein, designed to wreak maximum havoc on the human organism, via blood. Do you know what the main purpose of your immune system is? What precisely causes it to react most virulently to rid the body of any such thing? Foreign proteins. Our bodies are extremely sensitive to foreign proteins in the blood. Even worse the brain. This is the very definition of a prion disease. HIV the first one was the granddaddy of them all. From a lab I swear and they’ve been really into the prion idea since. 20 years and nearly 2 billion dollars went into making this one.

  174. Polemos says:
    @meamjojo

    I would take a weakened/dead Covid vaccine shot but want nothing to do with any variations of the mRNA shots, whether with Covid or any other future applications to other illnesses such as the flu.

    “Comprehensive investigations revealed consistent pathophysiological alterations after vaccination with COVID-19 vaccines”
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41421-021-00329-3

    Upon SARS-CoV-2 infections, many people developed various degrees of respiratory syndromes, and some with gastrointestinal conditions. It had been reported that blood coagulation disorders, vasculature issues, electrolytes imbalances, renal disorders, metabolic disorders, etc. were major clinical complications with COVID-19 (16,17). The manner in which vaccination would mimic an infection has not been fully evaluated. In this study, we enrolled healthy volunteers who were to be vaccinated with an inactivated SARS-CoV-2 vaccine (Vero Cell)(3), to participate in antibody and neutralizing antibody testings, as well as detailed clinical laboratory measurements before and at different times after vaccination (two-dose regimens with slightly different schedules were applied). To our surprise, we observed quite consistent pathophysiological changes regarding electrolyte contents, coagulation profiles, renal function as well as cholesterol and glucose metabolic-related features, as if these people had experienced an infection with SARS-CoV-2. In addition, PBMCs scRNA-seq results also indicated consistent reductions in CD8+ T cells and increases in monocyte contents, as well as enhanced NF-κB inflammatory signaling, which also mimicked responses after infection. Surprisingly, type I interferon responses, which had been linked to reduced damages after SARS-CoV-2 infection and milder symptoms, appeared to be reduced after vaccination, at least by 28 days post the 1st inoculation. This might suggest that in the short-term (1 month) after vaccination, a person’s immune system is in a non-privileged state, and may require more protection.

    Granted, this was only eleven people, divided into two groups, each receiving a full dose twice, with the difference in groups being the spacing of the second dose. Some highlights from the paper:

    Serum potassium levels decreased significantly by days 28, 42, and 90 post the 1st inoculation, with one sample below the lower normal limit at day 42 (Fig. 2d, left panel). Similarly, serum sodium levels also decreased following vaccination (Fig. 2d, right panel), indicative of vaccine influences on electrolyte balance. Again, electrolyte imbalance has also been linked to COVID-19(21). Coagulopathy is another COVID-19-induced clinical condition(22). We found that coagulation profiles changed significantly after vaccination, in the short-term (7 days) after the 1st inoculation, coagulation profiles were leaning toward shorter Prothrombin Time (PT), whereas the long-term (28 and 42 days) effect was toward activated partial thromboplastin time (APTT) and PT prolongation (Fig. 2e). By day 90, the profiles returned back to those before vaccination (Fig. 2e). Moreover, we found elevated blood cholesterol levels at days 7, 28 after the 1st inoculation, and elevated total bile acid levels were also detected at day 7 (Fig. 2f, g). Renal dysfunction is another clinical condition linked to COVID-19, and by 28, 42, and 90 days after the first inoculation, serum creatinine levels were significantly higher than those before vaccination, resulting in reduced eGFR (Fig. 2h). Most of these clinical features have been reported to be associated with the development of severe symptoms in COVID-19 patients (Supplementary Table S6).

    We identified diferentially expressed genes (DEGs) among all major cell types (Fig. 4a and Supplementary Table S10) and conducted gene functional analysis (Fig. 4b). Echoing the clinical measurement results, genes related to “cholesterol homeostasis”, “coagulation”, and “inflammatory response” (CXCL8, CD14, IL6, and TNFRSF1B), “TNFα signaling via NF-κB” (NFKB1, NFKB2, NFKBIE, TNFAIP3, and TNFSF9) and “hypoxia” (HIF1A) were upregulated. In addition, “TGFβ signaling”, “IL2-STAT5 signaling” (IFNGR1, MAPKAPK2, and CASP3), and “IL6-JAK-STAT3 signaling”-related genes were also upregulated (Fig. 4c). To visualize which cell types were enriched for those signatures, we performed gene module scoring and displayed the scores on UMAP coordinates as well as grouped box plots (Fig. 4c and Supplementary Table S11). Interestingly, “inflammatory response” genes were highly expressed in monocytes and after vaccination further increased (Fig. 4c), suggesting monocytes were one of the major cell types participating in inflammatory responses after vaccination. In contrast, genes related to “glycolysis”, “bile acid metabolism”, and “type I interferon (IFN-α/β) response” were downregulated, consistent with our clinical data and the pathophysiology of COVID-1913 (Fig. 4d).

    To confirm vaccination-induced inhibition of interferon responses revealed by scRNA-seq, we stimulated PBMCs from vaccinated individuals before and 28 days after vaccination with IFN-α/β. After 16 h of culturing and 12 h of stimulation, we used RT-qPCR to measure the relative expression of master regulators IRF2, IRF7, and STAT2. STAT2 and IRF7 were significantly downregulated after vaccination, yet IRF2 showed a trend of downregulation (Fig. 5e, f). The regulon analyses indicated that the states of the peripheral immune system after vaccination had reduced type I interferon responses, indicative of attenuated general antiviral abilities at least 28 days after the first inoculation.

    Notice that the complexity of these results cannot be captured by something like “50% efficacy.” What does such an expression of number actually even mean: what is it? A ratio? A probability? A percentage of what? What does 100% mean? Is percentage ‘efficacy’ like a 25% chance of rain, or a 33% reduction of an amount, or 67% expression of color saturation, or 53% coverage of space? If it means that fifty percent of the time you’re fine and fifty percent of the time you’re not, could you be fine from exposure to virus while very much unfine with your prediabetic results —and so you fell into the 50% protected but now you’re 100% on the way to diabetes?

    You might want to consider that you not get any vaccine for a/the/any coronavirus, and instead work to enhance and maintain a healthy, robust and resiliant natural immune system, especially by reducing your overall inflammation throughout your body, starting with the amount of adipose you’re carrying around and then work from there. You are what you eat, and you are when you eat, too. Consider also that, maybe, we’re all meant to die, like the cells in our bodies, at programmed moments in the life of the entire human superorganism, and reconciling your life with your death means living to the fullest and greatest spiritual virtues that transcend the limitations of the flesh, even the limitations of the words we use to ascribe value to our virtues. Maybe we are not just meant to die, but we become eager to die to create space for those who will surpass us, some who might not even be human but benefit from the niche we create for them spiritually.

    Taking these approaches, rather than injecting yourself with tiny pieces of a biomolecular machine designed to hijack and derail the complex, interlocking pieces of your inflammation/immune systems, might be much more rewarding and give you all the tools you’ll need to overcome the suffering our world inevitably produces.

    But you do not have to take these approaches. You can take a vaccine and think of it like, say, aspirin, or glasses, or a crutch, or echinacea, or prosthetic skin —as part of the technological tools available to us to not just improve our lives but restore “quality of life.” You too could become part of the ever larger crowds who want to life forever on a finite, countdown planet.

    • Replies: @Liza
  175. Polemos says:
    @Rabbitnexus

    Russia and China did the same as everyone, because nobody happens to have an actual sample of the virus./ Nobody can provide any evidence anybody ever did have. I kid you not. They only have, as has everyone else, the genome. Neatly mapped out in a single week by the Chinese at the outset.

    If you are right, then what are they describing in this paper?

    “Methods of Inactivation of SARS-CoV-2 for Downstream Biological Assays”
    https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/222/9/1462/5892951

    Vero E6 cells (C1008; African green monkey kidney cells) were obtained from Public Health England and maintained in Dulbecco’s minimal essential medium (DMEM) containing 10% fetal bovine serum (FBS) and 0.05 mg/mL gentamycin at 37°C with 5% CO2. SARS-CoV-2 isolate SARS-CoV-2/human/Liverpool/REMRQ0001/2020, which was cultured from a nasopharyngeal swab from a patient, was passaged a further 4 times in Vero E6 cells. The fourth passage of virus was cultured in Vero E6 cells with DMEM containing 4% FBS and 0.05 mg/mL gentamycin at 37°C with 5% CO2 and was harvested 48 hours post inoculation. Virus stocks were stored at −80°C.

    Notice the source of their isolate: REMRQ0001. We can track this further:

    “Amplicon-Based Detection and Sequencing of SARS-CoV-2 in Nasopharyngeal Swabs from Patients With COVID-19 and Identification of Deletions in the Viral Genome That Encode Proteins Involved in Interferon Antagonism”
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7602519/

    3.3. Initial Evaluation of the Amplicon Approach to Detect SARS-CoV-2 on RNA Purified from Nasopharyngeal Swabs Collected from Patients with COVID-19 Correctly Identified a Positive but also a False Negative Sample

    The ability of the amplicon-based approach to detect SARS-CoV-2 was initially evaluated on nasopharyngeal swabs collected from patients with COVID-19. The first patient (REMRQ0001) was admitted to the Royal Liverpool University Hospital on 23 February 2020. The patient was a member of staff from the Diamond Princes cruise ship that had an outbreak of SARS-CoV-2 leading to passengers developing COVID-19 [12,13]. The patient was asymptomatic but was screened for SARS-CoV-2 on 20 February 2020, left the ship on 21 February and was repatriated from Japan on 22 February 2020. During the flight, a positive result for SARS-CoV-2 using a nucleic acid-based system was received. A repeat nasopharyngeal swab was taken on admission and again tested positive with a viral load of Ct = 31.3. Two repeat swabs were collected on 24 February, one was positive (Ct = 32.7) and the second was negative. On 25 February, a fourth diagnostic swab was again negative, but a separately collected swab yielded PCR products from RNA isolated to evaluate the amplicon system. Here, 30 separate amplicons were synthesized and then visualised by agarose gel electrophoresis (Figure 2A). The data indicated that all amplicons (F1&R1 to F30&R30) could be identified and spanned the SARS-CoV-2 genome. These amplicons were sequenced on an Oxford Nanopore flow cell using MinION and sequence reads were mapped to the SARS-CoV-2 genome (Figure 2B), confirming that the amplicons represented viral sequence.

    A final nasopharyngeal swab was taken from patient REMRQ0001 on 27 February. This latter swab was not used for a diagnostic assay but was used to evaluate the sensitivity of the amplicon-based system using RNA isolated from the sample. In this case, several amplicon products were identified, though fewer than on the previous sample (note that the brightness on the gel image was adjusted post-exposure to show these products more clearly) (Figure 2C). The products most clearly visible included amplicons from the polymerase (orf1ab) region (F1&R1, F3&R3, F7&R7, F12&R12, F15&R15, F16&R16, F20&R20) and the membrane (M) region (F26&R26). Other amplicon products were less visible including F28&R28, spanning the orf8/nucleoprotein gene sequence. Therefore, the data suggested that the viral genome or viral sequence was present in a patient that had been evaluated as negative.

    How does this square with what you’re saying? What are they describing that matches with your claim that there has never been a viral isolation of SARS-CoV-2?

    • Thanks: meamjojo
  176. @meamjojo

    . . sorry, this was meant for @Zachary Smith

  177. Liza says:
    @Polemos

    I like your comments, except that I’d change “You are what you eat, and you are when you eat, too.” to”You are what you digest and assimilate.” A doctor told me that the majority of people who consult him suffer from outright or underlying poor digestion of foods.* Maybe a reflection of the inability to “digest” basic truths of life and death? The more civilized we get, the more terrified of dying. But death comes anyway!

    *A lot of conditions, apparently, have low stomach acid as main cause. They knew this way back when, too. Even when your symptoms seem to indicate “too much” stomach acid, the opposite is actually the case. Anyway…upward and onward, Polemos.

    • Replies: @Polemos
    , @meamjojo
  178. @Rabbitnexus

    I am not joking when I say Zombies are going to come out of this.

    If so, they might ultimately be among the few “vaccinated” still actually walking…

    https://cairnsnews.org/2021/11/19/myocarditis-cases-through-the-roof-mrs-qld-premier-from-an-inoculation-that-does-not-work/

    All those myocarditis cases are effectively dead men walking – but sadly, not for long.

  179. raga10 says:
    @anon

    The South African population is estimated at 60.14 million people, Australian population estimated at 25.902 million. Somewhere your arithmetic lets you down.

    Isn’t that exactly what I said?!? Why yes, it is – direct quote from the same post you’re responding to:

    South Africa has a population of less than three times that of Australia (60 million vs 25 million).

    You could at least do me the courtesy of actually reading the post especially when it was basically 6 lines of text. Even if you don’t care about courtesy, you could still care about displaying your lack of reading comprehension.

    And I performed no arithmetic in my post at all, so how could it let me down? I simply quoted the figures, and asked you, the reader, to perform your own comparison. But I’ll do it now, for your benefit:

    Australia had around 190,000 cases of Covid; let’s just round it up to 200,000.
    For population three times the size of Australia at the same rate of infections we would then expect 600,000 cases. But South Africa has 3 million, or 5 times more.

    Australia had around 1,900 deaths; let’s round it up to 2,000. Three times that equals 6,000. But South Africa had 90,000 – that’s fifteen times higher.

  180. Polemos says:
    @Liza

    I grok the change. I was thinking of intermittent and longer forms of fasting, which I’ve found not only improved my overall health but started to give me such clarity of mindset and deeper spiritual feeling that eating only once a day, or during a small window if I’m eating a variety of foods (avoiding combinations of citrus, dairy, animal flesh proteins, fruits, &c), has become standard for me —when I have a regular work/sleep schedule, though. I think this approach —fasting and avoiding certain combinations of foods— is strongly related to what you’re talking about, re: digestion, absorption, elimination.

    When for the sake of life’s timing I had to eat fast/ill-prepared food, I recognized the cravings for what they are and the feeling of illness, flulike inflammation and sudden fatigue, were unmistakable. When I am eating healthy and keep myself to whole foods, everything flows through me like clockwork and my joints/muscles don’t feel the aging (though every day I know they are). 🧙‍♂️

    Food is medicine, and medicines should be thought of —or, rather, I encourage myself to think this way— less as chemicals or supplements or pills to take in, but as other foods we complement with our other foods. Finding healthy organic herbs or edible plants/fungi, especially ones a person can grow in their own yards or inside their homes using healthy soil shat by worms and isopods and snails and the microbiome they support, that will give someone a solid basis for enduring health and resilience such that they need less and less of the pharmaceutical industry supports. I don’t know —it seems there’s a need for balance here, and for the most part I see the commenting cohort around here always talking about their vitamins, their ivermectin, their hydroxychloroquine, but rarely does someone around here talk about licorice, or echinacea, or dandelion, or valerian, or skullcap, or turmeric. I think the closest I came across was a conversation Mehen was having with someone about beta glycans from mushrooms —but I might be misremembering.

    If being a kid digging in living dirt has beneficial effects on one’s immune system, maybe spending some time as an adult doing the same continues to have some benefits, not least of which the mental and spiritual effects of mixing one’s blood with one’s soil over seasons of change . . . or maybe popping pills (with all the mineral oxides added in for filler) helps more.

    • Replies: @Liza
  181. Liza says:
    @Polemos

    People who can fast are just amazing, whether it’s total fasting (with water only) or just eating very, very little. It is harder for women, by the way. Birthing children + nursing them takes so much out of you that it could take a long time to recover a sense of normalcy. Men have it somewhat easier. Not everyone can eat in a strict manner and those who can do so are not understanding of those who can’t.

    You are correct about herbs. There is so much to learn. I like the writings of Michael Tierra and his wife on that subject. His info on passion flower is especially useful.

    • Replies: @Polemos
    , @Wielgus
  182. meamjojo says:
    @Liza

    I like your comments, except that I’d change “You are what you eat, and you are when you eat, too.” to”You are what you digest and assimilate.” A doctor told me that the majority of people who consult him suffer from outright or underlying poor digestion of foods.* Maybe a reflection of the inability to “digest” basic truths of life and death? The more civilized we get, the more terrified of dying. But death comes anyway!

    *A lot of conditions, apparently, have low stomach acid as main cause. They knew this way back when, too. Even when your symptoms seem to indicate “too much” stomach acid, the opposite is actually the case.

    Most people don’t chew their food well enough while eating too fast. Most don’t eat enough fiber. And of course, far too many MD’s prescribe and too many people use acid reducing pills, which change the gut environment, negatively affecting digestion and much more as research in the last few years has shown that the state of the gut is integrally tied to brain health.

    • Replies: @Liza
  183. Polemos says:
    @Liza

    I agree that men have it easier in some ways: in other ways, testosterone will also kill us sooner and more quickly. While the women in my life dealt with more frequent and chronic illnesses, the “depth” of the illness wasn’t always that hard for them, whereas I rarely got ill, but when I did, it knocked me down pretty good. —the whole “men are whiny when sick” has truth to it.

    But it helped to have a companion who complements one’s weaknesses and who benefits from one’s strength. Partnering really does make both stronger for the longer.

    Speaking of partners, thank you for the reference to the Tierras. I have found Stephen H. Buhner to be helpful for jumpstarting my plant quest —I get why people don’t like his sense of humor or stubborn self-appraisal, but at least he cites his research, which helps in doing one’s own to agree or disagree with his take.

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  184. Mikael_ says:

    Thanks, Linh.

    Together with Pepe, you’re a beacon in these times of mass insanity.

  185. republic says:

    The facts are clear. The Covid vaccination campaign is the largest mass murder movement in history.

    The public response to Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.’s just published book, The Real Anthony Fauci, shows that people are seeing through the orchestrated narrative cultivated by the whore media. The book has had a media blackout as if it doesn’t exist, but is nevertheless Number One on Amazon’s best seller list and Number One on Kindle’s best seller list.

    In addition to Amazon and Kindle, the book is available at local bookstores and at Barnes & Noble, IndieBound, Bookshop.org, Target, Walmart, Books-A-Million. Buy and read the book. You will see that public health is in the hands of gangsters.

    What the “Covid Pandemic” has taught us is that we can only have ZERO TRUST in the medical establishment, politicians, and media. These corrupt people have agendas totally different from public health.

    Paul Craig Roberts

  186. @Dumbo

    Your whiny hystericsl response means you know I am right. Enjoy being a puppet.

  187. Liza says:
    @Polemos

    Never heard of S.H. Buhner before. Thanks. Looked him up and found this:

    https://stephenharrodbuhner.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/covid-19-2.update.txt.pdf

    What a tome! However, I only scanned it. Will have to read it properly.

    I hope he grasps that the severity and/or length of socalled corona illness is only a reflection, a marker, a diagnosis of long term weaknesses. Who cares if you have this or that bacteria or virus; that is irrelevant.

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  188. @Dumbo

    The money is a side-show.
    They are eugenicists,

  189. durd says:
    @Rabbitnexus

    Here is a guy in 1995 saying that a magnetic vaccine will come about in the future that will turn the vaccinated into zombies.

  190. Polemos says:
    @Liza

    In the long term, we all become weak and die. Living forever is a cancer, as Henrietta Lacks still lives on in a mutated form —the total mass of her cancer still surviving in the world scattered about in labs is far in excess of her unmutated body when she was consciously alive. Wild to think about, for me.

    Also, for durd:


    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK305684/
    “Non-Invasive Neuromodulation of the Central Nervous System”

    “Magnetogenetics: remote non-invasive magnetic activation of neuronal activity with a magnetoreceptor”
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26740890/

    “MAGNETIC FIELD-ASSISTED GENE DELIVERY: ACHIEVEMENTS AND
    THERAPEUTIC POTENTIAL”
    https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1111/1111.1360.pdf

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  191. Liza says:
    @Polemos

    Man, how do you find all this interesting stuff!

  192. Wielgus says:
    @Liza

    I was on a hunger strike for a time – it is unpleasant but certainly doable.

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  193. Liza says:
    @Wielgus

    As I understand things, when you have a deep purpose in mind, fasting is indeed doable. However, wanting to lose weight or some other self-centered motivation doesn’t qualify. Might you want to tell us why you went on a hunger strike?

  194. Liza says:
    @meamjojo

    Right you are. Indeed, I read that some Orientals long ago described the gut as “a second brain”.

    Also, an oldish nutrition book quotes a Dr. saying that stomach acid is so valuable that antacids should be banned. Another Dr. at that time gave all his osteoporosis patients a test to see if they had enough stomach acid. They all had a bad case of low acid (causing minerals in their food to be un-absorbed). How about them apples. I wonder if today any doctors give their brittle bone patients this test.

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