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Five months into the coronavirus crisis, there is no consensus about anything.

When this virus was mostly limited to China, I tried to get as close as possible, so for two weeks, I stayed in Lao Cai, Vietnam. Nearly each day, I walked along the Red River to look into Yunnan, and what I saw were closed stores, empty streets and almost no pedestrians. Each night, though, the high-rises were lit up as usual. Seeing such desolation, I never imagined it would soon spread across much of the world.

In Hekou, there’s a large red banner showing Xi Jinping standing at a podium, with this message in Chinese, Vietnamese and English, “Adhere to the Road of Peaceful Development / Promoting the Construction of a Community of Shared Destiny.”

In Lao Cai, there’s a Trump Kids Kindergarten, by the way, and it’s run by the local Communist Party.

Leaving Lao Cai, I went to Si Ma Cai. Inhabited mostly by tribal peoples, this extremely remote district of 26,000 people blurs right into China, with plenty of smuggling going each way. One fine morning, I decided to just trek into the mountains. (I have a cousin whose estranged wife became a drug mule to China, by the way. This quiet, sweet and stoic woman was caught and executed.)

As I’ve stated elsewhere, I once crossed into Mexico from Candelaria, TX, because there was no border check, only a universally ignored sign saying it was illegal to do so.

My vague plan to absentmindedly mosey into the Middle Kingdom didn’t succeed. Here’s my caption to a photo from February 21st, “One of the last houses before the border. Couldn’t go any further. A soldier ran out of that house right there to stop me, and he was courteous about it. It took me three hours to walk here from Si Ma Cai. Mountain roads, up and down, a real pain in the ass. Almost no one has heard of this village, Na Cáng, and it’s not on any map. Two narrow lanes, too small for a car, lead to it. There is an elementary school, so kudos to that teacher.”

Leaving the Chinese border, I took a bus to Hanoi, but instead of going further south to eternally warm Vung Tau, where a room by the beach could be had for just $128 a month, a Tiger Beer cost 64 cents, and deeply satisfying conversations with close friends awaited me, I decided to fly to Seoul.

I emailed my buddy Rudy List in Michigan, “I’m flying to South Korea tomorrow night. Something this crazy, only you or I would do. I want to see how an advanced society deal with this coronavirus crisis…”

Rudy, “I have never received a more meaningful compliment. Thank you!!!” Actually, Rudy is much battier than I am. In 1975, he walked alone into Iraq from Iran, as machine guns on either side were trained on each other, “It was the loneliest two hundred yards I’ve ever walked. Either side could have shot me and blamed it on the other.”

Fact is, no one knows entirely why he does anything. What may appear as courage is actually pant-soiling cowardice, and sadism is dressed up as empathy, or vice versa. Maybe I’m just in love with Corona-Chan? As Anatoly Karlin will tell you, she’s one hot babe.

Outside Busan Station, I saw this on the back of a woman’s coat, “It’s either the flu or love… the symptoms are the same.” Seeing my photo of it, Ian Keenan comments, “Precisely the most commonly cited subtext of Garcia Marquez’ Love in the Time of Cholera.” If any plague is love, it must be the earth falling in love with itself.

As luck would have it, I’m in the freest country on earth right now, where stores, restaurants and bars are all open, and subways, buses and trains run on regular schedules. I must have emerged from over half of Busan’s 150 subway stations. There are a dozen beaches here, each with its own character, and even the countryside can be reached by public transportation. As someone who walks compulsively for miles nearly each day, I’d be in a cranky mess if forced to be sheltered in place.

With its unmatched coronavirus coverage, Unz Review has become a vital symposium on this global catastrophe. Brilliant analyses and key statements abound.

Gilad Atzmon, “Since we do not know its provenance, we should treat the current epidemic as a potentially criminal act as well as a medical event. We must begin the search for the perpetrators who may be at the centre of this possible crime of global genocidal proportions,” and he calls on whistle blowers to come forward.

Citing a list of circumstantial evidences, including the fact that America’s intelligence agencies “were aware of the deadly viral outbreak in Wuhan more than a month before any officials in the Chinese government itself,” Ron Unz is convinced this pandemic is an American biowarfare attack on China.

Agreeing with Unz, Kevin Barrett expands, “Independent historians have convincingly argued that such history-changing crises as World War I, the Great Depression, World War II, the 1971 birth of the petrodollar, 9/11, and the 2008 collapse were all engineered by the Zionist-dominated usury banking cartel that rules the West. In every case, the bankster cartel has profited from the destruction of real economies and real value. When smaller competitors go broke, the big banksters buy up hard assets at pennies on the dollar, further consolidating wealth in the hands of the few. And crises and wars force governments to go ever-deeper into debt, borrowing from the banksters at compound interest that will enslave future generations.”

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As led by China and Russia, the economic integration of Eurasia leaves the US out in the cold, so it has no choice but to demonize and attack both relentlessly, on several fronts. If the coronavirus pandemic is indeed the work of Uncle Sam, then he may have shot himself in the foot, or even worse, in the head. Banksters can’t benefit from hard assets if the polity itself has been shredded. Sure, the coming unrest will give the state a pretext to mow down discontents and browbeat the rest, but perhaps our rulers have, finally, underestimated our collective rage.

Meanwhile, let’s hear how three individuals are dealing with this madness in Japan and Idaho:

Renzo, an Italian in his 40’s who’s been living in Japan for 17 years

The hotel I am employed at was temporarily closed from April 7th following this situation, with reopening just now rescheduled for June 1st.

Fortunately, my salary has been guaranteed these two months, and also there will be a cash handout of about 1,000USD per person from the government.

We still can go out; everyone here wears a mask but aside from that really not much else happening to prevent things getting worse.

Shops are bustling with people, the real number of COVID-19 infections likely several times higher than government reports are indicating daily.

Back in Tuscany, in Castelfiorentino, regretfully one of my closest uncles (already 87) died in hospital a week after he was admitted with Covid-19 symptoms.

Max von Schuler-Kobayashi is an American who has lived in Japan for 45 years. Writing in Japanese and English, he is the author of six books on military history and present society.

We in Japan are much better off than the US or Great Britain. I put this to the extreme cleanliness of Japanese people in general.

For example, Japanese people always remove their shoes when returning home. And bathe every day. A Japanese home is always kept very clean.

Also Japan has a very competent health care system. We have National Health insurance, based on income.

It means that all people have access to the same general care. I checked this morning, some 11,200 active cases.

A good number of these are foreigners, such as from cruise ships. But the number of recovered people per day is beginning to outnumber the number of new cases per day. Perhaps we have reached plateau.

Personally, since my work involves speaking in front of many people, so I am unemployed.

In Japan, we have a unique situation. Our constitution was written and forced upon us post WWII by Americans. So it severely limits Executive powers. Our Prime Minister cannot simply order a lockdown.

What has happened is the political leadership has asked for voluntary lockdown, well a partial one.

Bars and restaurants can be open until 8pm. Last order is at 7pm. Schools are closed. Movie theaters closed.

But this is all voluntary. If a bar wants to remain open until late at night, the government cannot send police.

My guess is that some 80% of the Japanese population is complying with these guidelines. For a while, pinball gambling establishments would not comply, but public shaming did the trick. There is a vibrant sex industry in Japan. Since most cases of Corona virus are male, it is estimated that some 40% of new cases in Japan come from the sex industry. However, they are now closed also.

The Japanese government has to decided finally to send relief payments of ¥100,000 yen per person to people unemployed by Corona, sex workers will be included. I think I qualify. In the future, I think world trade will shrink. I think the Global economy is over. The future Japanese economy will be much more local.

I don’t think Corona will disappear, but will be with us for a long time, as a seasonal epidemic.

I think Japan is better prepared to handle the transition to a more local economy.

This is not from any prescient government planning. The government is mostly 2nd and 3rd generation idiots who grew up with a sliver spoon.

I don’t think the present Japanese government will remain.

Rather, it is the native ability of the Japanese people to persevere and weather a crisis. It will be hard, and there will be some people who simply will not survive, say someone from an elite university, being involved in foreign trade, suddenly moving to the countryside to become a farmer. But most people will adapt.

I think war on the Korean peninsula very possible, and perhaps in China. The Chinese have been very dishonest about the state of Corona Virus in their country. They never did get it under any kind of control, they just pretended to for business reasons. Now it is in Beijing. They too are facing collapse of present society.

The American Empire certainly over, I see civil war in America, and eventual breakup, into at least 5 entities. I don’t see massed armies like the Blue and Grey of 150 years ago, but rather a guerrilla war. I think the cities will depopulate, most city people will not survive rural life. The future transport system of the US will be by river, some rail, and horse. Most car and truck transport will disappear for lack of fuel. I don’t see a national electric grid as maintainable.

Western Europe will be similar.

The two countries that will still resemble present life the most will be Japan and Russia.

Paul Bonnell, a 47-year-old high school teacher and track coach, living in Bonners Ferry, Idaho

I have been reading your Coronavirus Missives and recent blog posts with fascination–curious about the different reactions, responses, and experiences around the world. Thanks for the opportunity to contribute a post to your collection.

I live in Bonners Ferry, Boundary County, the northernmost county in Idaho, U.S.A., bordering Montana, Washington, and British Columbia. Bonners Ferry has a population of about 3,000. Boundary County around 11,000. We have one stoplight; a dozen restaurants and churches; a few lumber mills, hair salons, and bars; a couple of hardware and building supply stores; a resort/spa/casino; some grocery stores; a bookstore; a bowling alley; a non-profit arts theater; some thrift stores, banks, and fabric shops; antique stores; a pawn shop; auto parts stores, a U.S. Customs and Border Protection facilities, a community hospital, some dental offices and veterinarians; a U.S. Wildlife Refuge; a U.S. Forest Service ranger station; a sturgeon and burbot hatchery; the county library; a few gas stations and real estate offices; and various other businesses.

This is the Kootenai Valley, ancestral home of the Kootenai Tribe of Idaho. Three mountain ranges meet here—the Selkirks, Purcells, and Cabinets. Long ago the Purcell Lobe of the Cordilleran Ice Sheet covered everything here with thousands of feet of glacier. Now, it’s forests and farms, including one of the largest hops farms in the world, Elk Mountain Farms.

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To date, Boundary County has no official cases of Covid 19, although we are proximal to places that do have cases, and people speculate–people who swear they’ve had it, people who know people who have it, people who say they called in, but were told there was no testing availability. Here, as elsewhere, the “numbers game” has been an ongoing conversation.

I am not really sure what to think of the various layers, except that early on I read about testing in places like South Korea and Vietnam, and from what I have heard, that has not been the case here. The current number of cases in Idaho is 2,158. Idaho was under a “Stay-Home” Order from mid-March through April; we just shifted to a “Stay Healthy” Order on May 1 and Stage One of the “Idaho Rebounds: Our Path to Prosperity” program.

From what I can tell, the whole situation raises compelling and thorny questions about jurisdiction, power, perceptions, (mis) trust of government, conspiracies, personal freedom, community responsibility, social class issues, urban-rural divides, culture, popular mythology, faith crises, the real estate market, etc. I wonder if these issues are always here, maybe just more exposed by all of this.

There’s a sense of “remoteness” here–about 100 miles to Spokane, Washington and 500 miles to Boise, Idaho’s state capital–a geographical “tension” that the Covid 19 situation brings out. For all the apparent or inherent “isolation,” we also are more “connected” than we might let on. Ordinarily, I would be coaching high school and middle school track right now. We’ll bus kids over a 100 miles one way to Kellogg, Idaho for an afternoon track meet on a school day. We may live in communities that are far apart, but we also interact across those distances. People go touristing from here—Mexico, Costa Rica, Hawaii, Tempe. I had some friends who went to Palawan and Phú Quốc this winter. They came back (wearing masks) just as everything was ramping up in the U.S.

We’re on a couple of major U.S. highway routes (U.S. 95 and U.S. 2) and the Great Northern railroad. Albertan cattle trucks roll through town every day, bound for feedlots and slaughterhouses–Spokane or maybe Yakima. On New Year’s Day this winter, a rock slide derailed a Burlington Northern diesel freight train into the Kootenai River. That one was bound for Pasco, coming from Minneapolis. At night, when I listen to the trains rumble through the valley, I think of all the trains–hauling oil from the Bakken in North Dakota, or Maersk and Yang Ming and Cosco shipping containers, or coal, or grain. Or passengers on the Amtrak’s Empire Builder. I think of our connection to the global system, even in this seemingly quiet corner of the world.

Will this whole thing make us think about complex realities? Political entities? Political unrest? Will we reflect on epidemiology, borders, regulations, public health, global travel, global trade, global war—or are we just reacting and/or moving on? Maybe we won’t have the time or energy or resources to do much else.

I teach high school during the day and community college at night. Our school district has been on a remote learning/”soft closure” set up since the middle of March. My college classes are now online. It’s been challenging trying to figure it all out, but honestly, I’ve been amazed at how adaptable and resilient families, students, and colleagues have been. I’m curious about where all of this will take “school.” One of my colleagues thinks we could be heading for significant changes. Who knows? It feels like this right now is the greatest “school” lesson.

It’s been interesting talking to students. I talked to a student yesterday who said he’s been working extra shifts at the grocery store and studying Norse mythology when he can. A couple who are working at the hops farm. Another who is working on a CDL. Another who is writing a “Coronavirus Diary.” A student who has been loading trees at one of nurseries and working on firefighter certifications, set to work the summer fire season with the Idaho Department of Lands. My son worked as an “essential laborer” the last couple of days putting shingles on a roof with my brother-in-law. Some students are flexing school and work around each other, some are buckling down on academics, preparing for the AP exams. Some are just working jobs, maybe 60 hours a week. Some are taking care of siblings. And there are some I haven’t heard from or been able to contact. One student who wrote, “Mr. Bonnell, if I wanted to go to school online I would have just left school freshman year to do it then. I need the motivation of the classroom.”

I am concerned for students who have limited internet and other infrastructure access, challenging or dangerous domestic situations, food insecurity, homelessness, etc. Students working one or two jobs to help out their families because their parents got laid off. Students who live in the woods and don’t have internet access. One student contacted me, worried about being late with an assignment because they had lost power in a wind storm and were having to keep their new chicks from freezing. There are so many stories like this here and everywhere across the globe. I read about all the people on the move in India, trying to outwalk starvation, even if it meant contracting the coronavirus.

Many of the details of my life have been altered—a truncated ski season at the local resort, where I work and recreate on the weekends; a canceled season of coaching track; different teaching methods; a daughter home early from college, finishing the semester at home and working in an “essential” industry at the grocery store; a son doing high school at home and figuring out several weeks of not seeing friends or working and playing at the ski resort; Rebecca navigating the challenges of working from home; a couple of months of not playing music out with friends at local bars or restaurants or church; a canceled trip to the American Literature Association conference in San Diego, where I was supposed to present a hybrid project with the Circle for Asian American Literature on transnational adoption and documents (including vaccination records, interestingly). But these are just inconveniences and disruptions, not tragedies.

Many details of life have been similar. We live close to town but in the middle of a beautiful stand of trees—western larch, cedar, Douglas fir, white fir, hemlock, Ponderosa pine, white pine, and birch. I go for morning and evening walks with lovely views of the valley and the surrounding mountains. Around school responsibilities, I continue to work on research projects about the Chăm, Bru, and Ê Đê. Some music. Some photography.

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Mostly, I have been working and thinking. I think about the personal and collective social and psychological ramifications of all of this. I am thankful to have survived war and wartime orphaning/abandonment, malaria, and adoption–and I guess I find that personal history to be connected somehow to this present. Survival. Making the best of difficult times. I look around and see potential for good—kind deeds and art and storytelling/story listening—and also potential for various upheaval and fragmentation and destruction. We’ll see what happens.

Linh Dinh’s latest book is Postcards from the End of America. He maintains a regularly updated photo blog.

 
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  1. Jimsy says:

    As Linh writes, the Unz Review’s coverage of the coronavirus has been second-to-none. Many thanks!

  2. gay troll says:

    I am going to have nightmares about Trumpkids Kindergarten, especially since the Trump logo is his head without a face.

  3. Slimer says:

    The American Empire certainly over, I see civil war in America, and eventual breakup, into at least 5 entities. I don’t see massed armies like the Blue and Grey of 150 years ago, but rather a guerrilla war. I think the cities will depopulate, most city people will not survive rural life. The future transport system of the US will be by river, some rail, and horse. Most car and truck transport will disappear for lack of fuel. I don’t see a national electric grid as maintainable.

    Western Europe will be similar.

    People see societal collapse as imminent when they’re fed up with the monotonous drudgery of everyday life. This includes the thousands, maybe millions of survival preppers across America who spend massive amounts of their spare time fantasizing about not having to go to work when shit finally hits the fan. Sadly, that primal longing for adventure leads them to believe in apocalyptic fantasy that never truly comes to pass. All that ever comes is more work. And more boredom after that.

  4. Alfred says:

    These three examples from South Korea, Japan and the USA, are from places that can handle adversity. The first two have war-time memories embedded in the minds of the elderly. The third is a rural place that has an impossible climate several months each year.

    It would seem to me that there are places that can survive this nonsense a lot better than others. Boundary County is fortunate in not being at an outskirt of Vancouver – let alone New York.

  5. A Paul Bonnell who survived war and wartime orphaning/abandonment, malaria, and adoption. How does that name reflect who he is and where from? But he’s living in a an idyllic community. Such will have no problems surviving no matter what. Unless somebody decides to swamp them with outsiders, like more than just the odd one like he seems to be.

    • Replies: @Escher
  6. Neoconned says:

    This is anecdotal but I’ve seen Japanese people both characters in anime and YouTube and news footage on subways and such….but I’ve noticed the Japanese have had mask dwelling down to a science. And it’s cultural to the point where a person w a mask on will walk into a restaurant and no one will say anything…..

  7. HalconHigh says: • Website

    There has been a paradigm shift…a disturbance in the “Force” with ripple effects that have yet to manifest themselves.
    The United States released its Blueprint for recovery yesterday:
    The 2020 National Football League schedule.

  8. Half-Jap says:

    It’s quite relaxed here in Tokyo. Parks are full with people, local businesses that are open are also getting decent business, while most of the downtown areas are sparsely populated. People keep hygenic as usual but seems like the only ones acting fearful are the media and govt.

  9. gotmituns says:

    It’s all a bunch of malarkey no matter how you slice it.

  10. Ron Unz doesn’t know jack about where and who started the coronavirus … Japan and Russia will remain the same but Europe and America will fall apart now that is totally idiotic … Idaho sounds heavenly; keep it that way … good luck to all and sundry!

  11. 450.org says:

    When this virus was mostly limited to China….

    Correction.

    When we believed this virus was mostly limited to China….

    Better, right?

    • Replies: @Herald
  12. And so it is for the rest of the world.

    Every week of this moronic “lockdown” drags us deeper into the pit of the coming depression. Britain will not recover within any of our lifetimes -or that of our children- if the geniuses demanding six months more of a police state get their way. The apocalyptic visions they are seeing -in the entrails of chickens for all we know- will most certainly come true if their lockdown wet dream becomes reality. Destroy the economy and society’s destruction is guaranteed to follow. Coronavirus could never have destroyed the entire country. Only experts can – and they will.

    https://99endof.home.blog/2020/04/04/lockdown-insanity-will-destroy-britain/

    • Agree: Alfred, theMann
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  13. It’s all quite surreal … Consider Belgium, with technically the highest per capita death rate in the world, allegedly nearly 1/10th of 1% of all Belgians having died of the coronavirus

    Yet Belgium is ending lockdown this weekend, Sunday & Monday, with nearly all stores allowed to now be open, and up to 4 people allowed at a time to visit friends at home – but supposedly to keep 1.5 metres distance away from one another, even drinking indoors with your mates, ha! … the main remaining rules being no street gatherings, and masks obligatory on public transport

    Belgium’s alleged super-high covid death rate is largely ‘presumed’ of course, no tests etc, and mostly as usual elderly and very sick people

    In fact about 1/10th of 1% of all Belgians die in a given month anyway … the overall ‘covid season death rate spike’ is about 11% over normal, which is not inconsistent with a bad flu season, time-shifting deaths of some elderly and sick people a few months forward

    Overall, Belgians seem to sense there’s something amiss in the whole lockdown framework and rationale, they are weary of the whole lockdown and the coronavirus ‘news feeds’ constantly thrust at them

    It’s almost as if there’s a cycle in this, a rhythm, once we get used to some death numbers flowing, we just collectively agree to carry on with life

    Was thinking of how, not too long ago, a certain amount of death was considered normal in work and even amusement … one great example of this was auto racing, which up through the 1970s used to kill not only a number of drivers and track personnel, but also on occassion some numbers of spectators, the heaviest death toll being the 1955 Le Mans catastrophe, killing around 130

    A good 1974 documentary film, ‘One by One’, also known as ‘The Quick and the Dead’ or ‘Champions Forever’ or ‘The Formula One Drivers’, narrated by Stacy Keach, covered a season in F1 Grand Prix racing where several major drivers you see end up dead before the film is over

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  14. Emslander says:

    In real historical crises, people note and recall hunger, sickness, death, destruction and courage. In this crisis of governmentally imposed terror, everyone is able to note only the effects of stupid government overreaction.

    Save us from the “experts”, Oh God!

    • Replies: @bjondo
  15. Today -like the last several days- a thousand “expert” voices are screaming that they must have “more” In a leap of staggering illogic, the media are singing ‘mass testing’ with a single voice . ‘Mass testing’ is the ‘key’ to defeating the virus, says the Mail, the Guardian, the Times, the Telegraph, the BBC. Whenever the media sings with a single voice you can be sure the globalist elite are leading the choir. Remember the ‘Weapons of Mass Destruction’ opera? (Lies and propaganda). Remember the Syrian ‘poison gas’ WMD horror (Lies and propaganda). The head of the World Health Organisation (click HERE to read about this particular corrupt little shyster) just spent a fortnight singing the praises of China for it’s Coronavirus contributions. (What? Like unleashing a plague across the world?) And by the way, can the WHO have more money and power please? (He adds, with a smile.) More testing, more beds, more ventilators, more masks, more mortuaries, more nurses, more, more, more , more. And in our 21st century inter-connected capitalist heaven, more means more money, and wherever politicians are involved, more money means more of YOUR money. Say goodbye to public services, say goodbye to low taxation, say goodbye to millions of jobs because Coronavirus, like war, like every other engineered crisis means MORE -and the global money-go-round grinds into action. The debt -to the govt passed on to we the people- will be too large to ever be payable, for one simple reason. The central banks will contribute the square root of fuck all -as usual.

    https://99endof.home.blog/2020/04/04/lockdown-insanity-will-destroy-britain/

  16. 450.org says:

    That’s comically ironic and tragic and absurd about Trump Kids Kindergarten in North Vietnam. Perhaps some competitors can take it as a name recognition cue and open a Nixon Kids Kindergarten and a Kissinger Kids Kindergarten and a McNamara Kids Kindergarten and a Lang Kids Kindergarten and a Westmoreland Kids Kindergarten and a My Lai Massacre Kids Kindergarten and, for the coup de grace, a Napalm Kids Kindergarten.

    Seriously, it’s a signal Vietnam has fully embraced the insane decadence of Capitalism in all its (in)glory. State Capitalism, but Capitalism nonetheless. The best and worst of both worlds. Cake and eating it too.

  17. 450.org says:

    Every week of this moronic “lockdown” drags us deeper into the pit of the coming depression.

    What lockdown? There isn’t a lockdown and never really was one in America. Nail salons and tattoo parlors and bowling alleys do not an economy make unless we’re talking about a third world country and maybe America is at this point so maybe we are — talking about a third world country.

    My bro is a top salesman for ADP was fortunate enough to work from home before the pandemic and he still has his job and he’s still “working” from home pulling in several hundred thousand dollars a year while meat packers work for pennies on the dollar and put their lives on the line and healthcare workers putting their lives on the line are getting pay cuts and fast food workers are getting shot by raging morons who think it is their legal right to shoot people with COVID-19 considering they are taking no precautions by wearing a mask and are therefore effectively disease vectors.

    Your Chump in Chief in the White House is getting tested every day while you advocate for “ordinary” Americans to put their lives on the line for a pittance with no testing. You want to work? Start flipping burgers at McDonald’s or get your ass on the line in the meat packing plants rather than typing away on your keyboard from the safety of your privileged shelter.

  18. This quiet, sweet and stoic woman was caught and executed.

    I’m sure she had a fair 5-minute trial.

    How much longer will the world pretend red china isn’t another evil empire and a menace?

  19. Alfred says:
    @brabantian

    one great example of this was auto racing, which up through the 1970s used to kill not only a number of drivers and track personnel

    I well remember my teenage heroes – Jim Clark and Graham Hill – and their legendary racing competitions. My school was close to Silverstone – Stowe Corner is named after it.

    Jim Clark died while training at Hockenheim when he was 32 – in a Formula 2 car.

    Graham Hill died while trying to land in fog a plane that he was piloting – he was 46

    Around 260 motorcyclists died in the TT races and their practices. My favourites were Mike Hailwood and Giacomo Agostini. Mike died in a freak accident when he was 40 – hit by a truck while driving a car. Giacomo is 77 and still alive.

  20. Che Guava says:

    Specifically to Max von whatever, our constiition was not made by the U.S.-A-, but by Jews in the U.S.A , in much the same way as the Nuremberg trials feaured jf-ewish military police from the U.S. army who had played no part in, nor been affected by, the war their people had pushed.

    My account from Japan would differ greatly from von WTF’s.

    I am pretty sure that I already caugkt the virus, my workplace is in Ueno, the most popular place for Chinese tourists in Tokyo. I am not sure why that is.

    From new year’s eve until mid-February, I was in a totally lethargic (like German, Japanese has some expressions that are not well-captured in English, the reverse also true) state, some days not being so sick, so I was able to work.

    I must look into the works of this aged von bullshit artist, but perhaps, why bother?

    Yesterday, despite the govts extension of the state of emergency, many businesses were re-opening.

    The most alarming thing was a young man vomiting on a subway train, Tuesday.

    Von wtf may exist, but he is full of shit. Sure, it would be nice to see a movement of the young back to agriculure, and if it happens, that is great, although much good agricultural land is now ruined by solar cells, plus gigantic forms of subu the base of the external economy is technical.

    So, Mr. -von wtf, you don’t have a clue.

  21. The gormlessness of the cucked NWM here in Cuckstain never ceases to amaze.

    Even you American guys will be aware that the main obsession for working class White Men is Premier League football.

    So who are the target market for the subscription channel (SkySports) with exclusive rights for this?

    NORMAL WHITE MEN

    You’d think the Nose would give the PozPaganda a rest for a sec? But No!!!

    Prolly know the uneducated dirty orange britscab Chav from the Leeds estate is too dumb to realize how cucked he is.

    Won’t list all 6 million of the ARSE lies in the coalburning Fake*ewsMedia ad. But every time I see an ARSE in Londonistan, it is as obvious as Pinocchio, tho Disney didn’t get the hook on the end completely accurate!!!!!

    1) Attractive ‘shark vs real life Dawn French
    2) M/C family – burnerskanks are NOTORIOUSLY trashy Frumps…

    Won’t list all 6 million lies – prolly illegal!

    6 million$ Q – How can we get SportsCucks to stop paying Fake*ewsMedia unnecessary (BBC far worse, but Creep State criminalizes not funding them the same way it criminalizes free speech in historians it doesn’t like) fees to fund Pinocchio’s GREAT REPLACEMENT of him?

    Leeds Larry

    Pays Mohammed to give his daughter biology lessons.
    Jamal to give his son chemistry lessons.
    Pinocchio’s daughter’s bar mitzvah
    Just so he can show how tough he is with 1000s of britfags that the fenian bar stud McClean won’t wear his faggy flower!!!!!!

    PS – Anyone know what’s happened to the Identitarians. Subscribed to their emails months ago, but 0 new.

    • Replies: @anon
  22. Republic says:

    It is strange that teacher in Idaho did not
    mention Ruby Ridge,which is only a few miles from Bonners Ferry and the scene of one of the most pivotal events in US history,the rise of state terrorism and the beginning of the militia movement.

  23. Dumbo says:

    Weird, why was my post not published?

    I’m sick of all this corona psy-ops.

    Notice that now all countries are getting out of lockdown at the same time, independently of whatever’s going on in each specific country.

    It was all a big scam.

  24. @Sick of Orcs

    I’m sure she had a fair 5-minute trial.

    How much longer will the world pretend red china isn’t another evil empire and a menace?

    Way, wait … I thought everyone here was cool with the death penalty, especially the summary kind. Or is that only if it’s negroes? Help me out here!

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  25. mike99588 says:

    What I can’t believe is the internet censorship in the US by the tech giants on legit discussions about the impact of nutrients on CV19 infection, progression, severity and recovery. Pharmawhore medicine has been spiked for generations against accurate reporting.

    Since 2010, there has been huge debate between the US Inst of Medicine and endocrinologists about deficiency thresholds for vitamin D, 20 ng/mL vs 30-32 ng/mL. (UK is even worse, 10 ng/mL) Some places, all severe cases of CV19 are under <20 ng/mL and most mild cases are above 30 ng/mL. Ditto 50 ng/mL shows a self resolving population. I take 10,000 iu'D3 day to reach ca 50 ng/mL, f*** RDAs at 200 iu or 600 iu, they are mass murder.

    Likewise IV vitamin C. Even 0.5 – 1 gram/hr changes the course of ICU patients. 50-80 yrs ago, Fred Klenner MD, a Duke chest specialist, showed that large doses, like 50 – 75 grams IV vitamin C several times a day rapidly resolved terrible, acute viral infections. Similar CV19 reports today, even at slightly lower doses. Crickets in the legacy media and CDC; censored on Youtube, Google, Farcebook and Twitter.

    Like Ron, I had my own STEM glories.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @roonaldo
  26. @Sick of Orcs

    Yes, and how many here will cheer the Chi Com style chains being forged as we speak, to be applied in the near future?

    • Agree: Sick of Orcs
    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  27. When smaller competitors go broke, the big banksters buy up hard assets at pennies on the dollar, further consolidating wealth in the hands of the few.

    It seems worth pointing out that this is also a recurring pattern in species evolution – an explosion in diversity among closely related species followed by a collapse in diversity due to a sudden change in environmental conditions. Not a good sign, is it?

  28. Agent76 says:

    March 20, 2020 Bill Gates Says Health Care Workers Will Be First to Get Coronavirus Vaccine

    Microsoft founder and philanthropist Bill Gates predicted on Mar. 18, 2020 that the first licensed coronavirus vaccines for COVID-19 will be available within 18 months and that health care workers will be among the first to get the shots.

    https://thevaccinereaction.org/2020/03/bill-gates-says-health-care-workers-will-be-first-to-get-coronavirus-vaccine/

    Apr 11, 2020 Here’s why Bill Gates wants indemnity… Are you willing to take the risk?

    Why are the world’s top vaccine promoters, like Paul Offit and Peter Hotez, frantically warning us about the unique and frightening dangers inherent in developing a coronavirus vaccine?

  29. @Mackerel Sky

    Death penalty after a fair trial. china doesn’t waste time with human rights.

    • Replies: @Mackerel Sky
  30. @Johnny Walker Read

    (((GoogleZuck))) helped build Chinee’s surveillance state tech.

    From “Don’t be evil,” to “Pile on extra evil to make up for lost time.”

    • Agree: Johnny Walker Read
  31. @Sick of Orcs

    There’s the death penalty for drug smugglers in other Asian countries too (Singapore, Malaysia, etc.). Nigerian gangs have been recruiting many naive Southeast Asian girls, including Muslim Malay girls, to act as mules and when they get caught they’re not spared – it’s the law.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  32. Dumbo says:

    In Japan, we have a unique situation. Our constitution was written and forced upon us post WWII by Americans.

    The Japs should throw this constitution in the trash and stop being vassals of the U.S.
    Maybe they can try to be friends with Russia? (Since with China, for obvious reasons, it’s impossible).
    Anyway, I’m surprised the U.S. still haven’t forced them to accept millions of African immigrants and worship gays.

    On the other hand, when will the U.S. stop being a vassal of the Jews?

    What a stupid world we live in.

  33. @Che Guava

    Mr Guava,

    I do not know about Jewish military police guards at Nuremburg, but I do know that former SS men were guards there. They were not ethnic German, but ethnic Balts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qcEFnGeZ6A

  34. Che Guava says:

    Specifically to Max von whatever, our constiition was not made by the U.S.-A-, but by Jews in the U.S.A , in much the same way as the Nuremberg trials feaured jf-ewish military police from the U.S. army who had played no part in, nor been affected by, the war their people had pushed.

    My account from Japan would differ greatly from von WTF’s.

    I am pretty sure that I already caugkt the virus, my workplace is in Ueno, the most popular place for Chinese tourists in Tokyo. I am not sure why that is.

    From new year’s eve until mid-February, I was in a totally lethargic (like German, Japanese has some expressions that are not well-captured in English, the reverse also true) state, some days not being so sick, so I was able to work.

    I must look into the works of this aged von bullshit artist, but perhaps, why bother?

    Yesterday, despite the govts extension of the state of emergency, many businesses were re-opening.

    The most alarming thing was a young man vomiting on a subway train, Tuesday.

    Von wtf may exist, but he is full of shit. Sure, it would be nice to see a movement of the young back to agriculure, and if it happens, that is great, although much good agricultural land is now ruined by solar cells, plus gigantic forms of subu the base of the external economy is technical.

    and we still have tech power,

    unlike the U.S.A.

    So, Mr. -von wtf, you don’t have a clue.

    • Replies: @Linh Dinh
  35. Linh Dinh says: • Website
    @Che Guava

    So you emphasize a point by posting it twice? And why are you being so rude by saying of someone’s name “Max von whatever” or “von wtf”?!

    I just emailed Max, “That guy is nasty and almost certainly not a Japanese. He thinks he owns Japan, though, so will obnoxiously disagree with anyone’s comments on Japan. He’s not just an asshole, but gives the false impression that he’s a Japanese asshole.”

    • Thanks: SOL
  36. @Slimer

    Yeah, it’s kind of funny some guy in where is it, Japan? thinks he’s Nostradamus.

  37. Anon[405] • Disclaimer says:

    Get sunshine for vitamin D

    Zinc
    C
    Ginger. (Antiviral)
    Garlic. (Antiviral)
    Elderberry. (Antiviral)
    Black Pepper. (Antiviral)

    There are a few other natural antivirals. I wanna live just to spite the MSM. Hope you all stay alive as well.

    • Replies: @orionyx
  38. Sentient says:

    Here is the real deal: Corona virus acquired its infectiousness by passing through HIV-patients.

    You heard it here first.

    How do we know?

    It’s becoming increasingly clear that Corona virus was making the rounds already in September/October 2019 at the latest, possibly even earlier than that. Even the MSM are reporting it, even though it questions the narrative that Corona virus came fro China.

    Observing this fact immediately poses the problem how such an early outbreak could have been possible given the high transmissibility (R0). There should have been many more patients much earlier.

    The only way out consists of postulating that Corona virus mutated along the way. It was improbable to begin with that Corona virus made the jump from animal to human in a shape where it was already perfectly adapted to humans right from the start. The degree of adaptation that it exhibits must have arisen when mutations to that effect had a selective advantage in humans. The initial, pre-A version of Corona virus in humans was less infectious, hence it spread only slowly, undetected.

    The crucial adaptation is HIV-like. Scientific sources elaborating on this aspect can readily be found but here is an MSM account of it:

    https://www.salon.com/2020/02/27/why-covid-19-is-more-insidious-than-other-coronaviruses/

    It is part of virology 101 that viruses can exchange genetic material when they come to infect the same host.
    HIV patients provide the perfect type of host where Corona virus might have picked up a genetic sequence from that other virus.

    Many stable HIV patients live on the US West coast. At all times, there is also a lot of travel between the US West coast and China. Researchers have identified three major strains of today’s Corona virus, A, B, and C, of which A appears to be the oldest. It is prevalent on the US West coast more than in China.

    All the puzzle pieces falls perfectly together.

    Now, the political implications are colossal.

    Over the past several decades, the world went to gigantic lengths to provide HIV patients with a lease of life.

    And all it brought us was a way for HIV to pass on genetic information to other viruses.

    It may have occurred before but now it has happened with a virus that went on to crash the world economy. People are hungry, cannot feed their children or go to the hospital. Suicide rates are skyrocketing.

    Without all the anti-HIV intervention, HIV patients would have died and it may never have happened.

    See what globo-homo has brought us.

    • Thanks: Alfred
    • Replies: @Stonehands
    , @orionyx
  39. @Johnny Walker Read

    How stupid. Chicken Little fools. You . . . are . . . wrong. The economy will not . . . whatever you think it is going to do, it isn’t going to. Life will go on (except for those with the virus). The Barbarians Are Not Coming. And if they don’t, oh, what shall we ever do (clutching our pearls).

    Quarantine is as time-honored as the hills because it saves lives.

    The only apocalyptic possibility is if they end lockdown too fast and the virus really gets a head of steam. It now affects children (remember all the let-the-old-boomers (including 90-year-olds, who are not boomers, but young people are, it is true, arithmetic challenged, and so they just think that all old people are this thing they vaguely understand they call “boomers”)-die types bragging about their youthful immunity?) There are now even more virulent strains circulating. Strains that don’t die off with summer. Nasty new symptoms. Rapid mutation.

    Soros wants an end to lockdown because his hedge-funds need goosing. (Whatever lip service he gives to whatever, he does.) Congratulations on being Soros brown-nosers.

    • Replies: @orionyx
  40. Escher says:
    @Commentator Mike

    He could be an adoptee from Vietnam. The age lines up with the war years. Could also explain his interest in Asian American “stuff”.

  41. Mj says:
    @Slimer

    It’s less that they see a societal collapse, than that they want a societal collapse.

  42. Please watch the trunews.com program of 5-7-20 with the interview of Dr. Judy Mikovits on coronavirus.

    • Thanks: Republic
  43. Linh Dinh: “In Lao Cai, there’s a Trump Kids Kindergarten, by the way, and it’s run by the local Communist Party.”

    The oppressor turned into a hero to the oppressed, by the oppressed?! What on earth could be next? White people worshiping a Jewish rabbi, calling him God? Or re-christening their elementary schools in the name of a plagiarizing, whore-beating, white hating communist named MLK? On the face of it, it all seems about as likely as finding a Heinrich Himmler preschool in Israel, or an Adolf Hitler Yeshiva.

    Linh Dinh: “If the coronavirus pandemic is indeed the work of Uncle Sam, then he may have shot himself in the foot, or even worse, in the head.”

    You’ve got to admire the mentation here. Ordinarily conspiracy theorists adhere very strictly to the rule of cui bono? Whoever stands to benefit must have done it. But, happily enough, even when the rule fails, as here, it still points to the guilty party! We’ll just say he miscalculated, that’s all. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the undisprovable hypothesis. It’s truly indispensable, the rhetorical equivalent of Ginsu knives and the Veg-O-Matic rolled into one. It slices, it dices, even cuts through steel cans!

    • Replies: @Linh Dinh
    , @Herald
  44. Sentient: “Without all the anti-HIV intervention, HIV patients would have died and it may never have happened.”

    LOL! Well, don’t worry. For every problem generated by technology, there’s always a technological fix, (which will cause still more and even bigger problems, and so on, ad infinitum.)

  45. Linh Dinh says: • Website
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Stupidity or hubris will lead to miscalculations, and since the world is filled with stupid and/or cocky people, history is a litany of often spectacular miscalculations. On an individual level, some people even miscaculate each time they open their mouth, thanks to their risible hubris.

  46. Time to brush up on survival skills.

    Got Owls?

  47. Linh Dinh: “… some people even miscaculate each time they open their mouth, thanks to their risible hubris.”

    I think you’ve scored an own goal here.

    • Disagree: Alfred
  48. @Slimer

    Great, great post. Indeed, they fantasize about killing off the neighbors they don’t like, offing the cops, etc. yadda yadda. I lived on a survivalist place for some years and it was awful. Peyton Place drama, they were lousy at storing food, growing food, borderline animal abuse the animal treatment was so neglectful, etc.

    I got the hell out of there. They’ll end up shooting each other over corpse-y tasting badly stored cans of SPAM.

  49. @Half-Jap

    Didn’t mask-wearing really come into its own in Japan due to the 1957 Tokyo flu? I’ve heard that was a bad one.

    I’m kind of thinking that when the dust settles, this will turn out to be very parallel to the 1918 flu. It will come in waves, will mean about 2 million deaths in the US, many more worldwide, etc.

    Amazing that the 1918 bug was going on while there was a world war also.

    Another time to reflect on was the polio epidemic. That was what, the 1950s? That one had people avoiding gatherings like parks, swimming pools, theaters, etc.

  50. HenryTJ says:

    Cleanliness of the Japanese is overrated. They have an almost pathological need to smear their hands over their faces and people here are constantly wiping their noses on their hands during flu season (this may be because wiping with a tissue is considered rude and they think they are being discreet). Even people working in food preparation do this. As a result, they seem to be almost constantly ill.

    They also don’t have the American obsession with disinfection. It is still common for dishes at restaurants to be washed in a sink instead of a high temp commercial washer. Use of gloves by people preparing food is still not universal. Use of hand disinfectant only became popular recently.

    It is telling that the person quoted here praising Japanese cleanliness is someone awed by the fact that they bathe every day. I didn’t know that was considered remarkable in most of the developed world.

    I will grant that Japanese have a certain traditional tidiness but it is completely unrelated to and uninformed by germ theory.

    • Agree: Daniel Rich
    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
    , @anon
  51. Poco says:
    @Slimer

    I haven’t had any connection to “preppers” however, my father purchased 20 acres in 1979 when I was 9 years old because the state decided it would make black kids smarter if me and my 7 year old sister were bussed across town for school.
    I then learned how to grow a vast garden, build fence, raise livestock, handle weapons, lay waterlines, can vegetables, clear land, weld, repair autos, drive tractors, slaughter animals etc.. I grew up, built a successful electrical contracting business, got married, had 4 kids, and expanded the land holding. I buy no vegetables or meat. I have my own supply of water and a windmill if electrical power goes out as well as a hand pump. Both gasoline and human powered generators. I am well armed with rifles and bows. I can reload my own ammo and make my own bows. I have taught my children these skills. Does this make me one of the dastardly bucktooth evil hillbilly preppers?

  52. @Poco

    It makes you the salt of the Earth, if what it makes you.

    A gen-U-wyne redneck.

    A redneck will help you change your tire. A “white trash” will steal your spare.

    There are all sorts of theories about where the term “redneck” came from, that certain soldiers wore red bandanas around their necks etc yadda yadda …

    But if you’re out working in your fields, and you’re pale at all, your neck is going to turn very, very red. That’s what a redneck is. They work. You’d never catch white trashers out working in a field, at least in the warm months they’re mostly nocturnal, spending the day sleeping off their drug jags and playing computer games, then go out at night to deal and steal. Only thing they know how to “fix” is a dose of heroin.

    Real rednecks are not big on drug use. Pot makes you lazy, the antithesis of redneckism. Meth and heroin and the rest are the Antichrist of the redneck world. I knew a guy who fancied himself a sort of “enlightened” redneck, and had a live-and-let-live policy regarding some meth-heads in his area. Result: the meth-heads burned him out. Real rednecks will take those types and give them the Old Yeller treatment because you don’t suffer a rabid dog to live.

    The “substances” of the redneck world are *some* alcohol not enough to keep you from working, and sweet syrupy country music. You really don’t need anything more when you’re putting in full days of work.

    • Replies: @Poco
  53. @Linh Dinh

    I think Che writes after copious amounts of sake have been consumed and he decides to give stick to the readers of UR, often striking wrong keys on the keyboard in his drunken daze as evidenced by spelling mistakes in many of his posts or double postings. It’s the sake talking.

  54. Johnwho says:

    Didn’t bother to read article. Ling ling is good in places.
    But if this latest crisis doesn’t turn you off politicians then you are doomed. Trump is the worst and he is going to cost America hundreds of thousand of lives.
    Trudeau from Canada is not much better; he will cost probable fewer hundreds of thousands of lives (not yet, but they are coming) and will protect himself by saying how much better he did than America.

    Anyone who has been watching this and seeing how it could have played out with so many fewer lives being spent is by now absolutely sick of it. We tried, we raised our voices and we were completely overwhelmed by trolls or aka completely political paid hacks.
    We lost. Those older among us probably lost our lives to political expediency. Don’t ask me to vote for you again because I would rather shoot you. Be strange huh? You lied to me all my life and now… and now… I just fuckin decided to shoot you. No charge.

  55. Shipra says:
    @Poco

    You sound wonderfully impressive, actually.

    • Replies: @Poco
  56. anon[403] • Disclaimer says:
    @Che Guava

    I’d have to agree that a guy with a weird hyphenated name that has been across the world making chump change in another country is not the best judge of the US climate. What I see is that there are plenty of jobs out there; just not for the service industry. Lockheed is committed to 5000 hires in Texas, as an example. In Cali, there are 18000 opening in the unions that represent the grocery stores, along with a $2/hr raise. So, what is going away is the concept of extending one’s childhood. The concept of working multiple at will jobs in order to live in a beach area is going to go away. Just like the the good old days, living where you work and making a decent wage whether one likes the job or not is the new/old reality. What we had have been 2 generations of white people living like coolies in order to put off the ugly reality of real work. No more liberal arts degrees, with the idea that one day a good job will pop out of the wood work while being a waiter or bartender in some seaside town. Nope, if a good job is in Texas, that’s better than starving in Malibu. Reality sucks, snowflakes!

  57. anon[346] • Disclaimer says:

    what can I say.

    Some people shoot horses and some people eat dogs.
    and then there are those who drink 333

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/333_Premium_Export_Beer

  58. Che Guava says:
    @Linh Dinh

    That is so needlessly insultng.

    ‘Max’ uses the German honorific ‘von’ in front of a hyphenated German-Japanese surname. That is a joke.

    Thus, Max wtf is logical.

    The insane insult that I think I own Japan is equally stupid.

    I serve.

    Double-post, excuse, it was not intentional.

    However, I was very angry at Max von wtf’s suggesting to apply the Morgenthau plan for Germany of then to Japan of now.

    If you would actually read my original post, and ignoring my referring to lord Max von wtf, you will see a very simple talk of lived experience.

    I am happy to hear that you are in Busan/Pusan, nice city.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  59. “A patient treated in a hospital near Paris on 27 December for suspected pneumonia actually had the coronavirus, his doctor has said.
    This means the virus may have arrived in Europe almost a month earlier than previously thought.
    . . . Two weeks ago, a post-mortem examination carried out in California revealed that the first coronavirus-related death in the US was almost a month earlier than previously thought. . . .
    Dr Cohen, head of emergency medicine at Avicenne and Jean-Verdier hospitals near Paris, said the patient was a 43-year-old man from Bobigny, north-east of Paris.
    He told the BBC’s Newsday programme that the patient must have been infected between 14 and 22 December, as coronavirus symptoms take between five and 14 days to appear.”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52526554

    Unbelievably? There are ‘only’ 9 reported deaths in Beijing and 7 in Shanghai?
    https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

    Beijing, China
    Confirmed: 593
    Deaths: 9
    Shanghai, China
    Confirmed: 657
    Deaths: 7

  60. @Che Guava

    Che,

    I see you’re sober now so excuse my comment to Linh. I agree with you calling out that von-whatever; sounds like a pretentious prick. And I believe you are Japanese despite what Linh wrote.

  61. Herald says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Linh Dinh: “If the coronavirus pandemic is indeed the work of Uncle Sam, then he may have shot himself in the foot, or even worse, in the head.”

    You’ve got to admire the mentation here. Ordinarily conspiracy theorists adhere very strictly to the rule of cui bono? Whoever stands to benefit must have done it. But, happily enough, even when the rule fails, as here, it still points to the guilty party! We’ll just say he miscalculated, that’s all.

    Looks like you may have missed the word “If” beginning the quote above. Apart from that minor quibble, great post.

  62. @HenryTJ

    Agreed, there’s nothing special about Jap’s personal hygiene. Southeast Asians shower themselves several times a day although the poorest may just use a bucket and cup. Muslims wash their face, hands and feet five times a day on top of whatever else. There are some filthy specimens in colder climates but even there most people shower once a day.

  63. chris m says:

    Seems that few people can quite trust the Chinese regarding many things
    such as where , when and how the Coronavirus began its Long-March
    from Wuhan to the rest of the world.
    That, i’m afraid, will have to be left to future scientists and historians.
    And It is quite possible that there are certain aspects to this that may never be answered to everyones satisfaction.

    But at least we can confidently state that the Chinese cannot be trusted with their numbers (cases, deaths, etc)

    However, it seems that there is no such problem with the numbers game wrt South Korea, Vietnam, Taiwan.

    My question to Linh Dinh has to be
    1) does he believe that the Chinese are so untrustworthy, yet those other countries are (ie South Korea, Vietnam, Taiwan.) …..all these countries seem to have got a firm grip on this pandemic
    (ie similar results regarding numbers of cases, deaths)

    2) and why is it that Vietnam (pop 100 million) has seemingly managed to get such a firm grip
    on this that not one person there has succumbed to this virus.

    surely both China and Vietnam are ruled by similar types of Governments ( ie Communist, authoritarian), and we might expect similar outcomes from 2 such similar states.

  64. Agent76 says:

    May 9, 2020 Whitney Webb: Bioterror War Games, DARPA, Technocracy & COVID-1984

    Hard-hitting investigative journalist Whitney Webb discusses the numerous bioterror war game simulations that took place prior to Covid-19 being declared a pandemic.

  65. Anonymous[223] • Disclaimer says:
    @mike99588

    Ditto 50 ng/mL shows a self resolving population. I take 10,000 iu’D3 day to reach ca 50 ng/mL, f*** RDAs at 200 iu or 600 iu, they are mass murder

    So what’s a normal level for a European in winter? How did people historically take in enough vitamin D in winter?

    Fred Klenner MD, a Duke chest specialist, showed that large doses, like 50 – 75 grams IV vitamin C several times a day rapidly resolved terrible, acute viral infections.

    That’s absolutely insane. A thousand times the daily RDA. Is there any precedent for this kind of dose being available to people before chemists discovered how to synthesise ascorbic acid?

    • Replies: @glib
    , @mike99588
  66. Anonymous[223] • Disclaimer says:
    @Commentator Mike

    There’s the death penalty for drug smugglers in other Asian countries too (Singapore, Malaysia, etc.).

    Malaysia hasn’t executed anyone recently. It’s effectively life imprisonment.

    Thailand automatically commutes to life in prison when the convict writes to the King

    Singapore is still an efficient murder machine

  67. @Sick of Orcs

    Death penalty after a fair trial. china doesn’t waste time with human rights.

    I think you’ve ballsed this up here, actually. She would have been convicted following a fair trial. Linh Dinh says she was a drug mule.

    So on the facts, China applied its own laws properly.

    It is pretty amusing to see Unz readers pretending to be all soft about the death penalty. Be consistent, FFS. If it’s fine to execute “orcs”, then leave the Chinese to their own laws without comment.

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  68. @Sentient

    Could be. Give it 3-5 years. We knew squat about AIDS in the beginning, remember the 4H’s?
    This type of behavior causes God to heap opprobrium on His people through pestilence and plague- will His people repent or even have the guts to broach the subject? I doubt it.

    P.S. Incoming!

  69. Herald: “Looks like you may have missed the word “If” beginning the quote above. Apart from that minor quibble, great post.”

    The “if” was just a formality, as both the original context and LD’s subsequent defense of the hypothesis showed. In effect he says anyone who doesn’t believe it was a miscalculation must be stupid and filled with hubris. But, it’s the know-it-alls with the undisprovable theories that are the ones with hubris. I’m humble enough to say that I don’t know where the virus came from. Jim Goad has the correct take on it:

    https://www.takimag.com/article/a-plague-of-know-it-alls/

    • Replies: @Linh Dinh
  70. chris m: “2) and why is it that Vietnam (pop 100 million) has seemingly managed to get such a firm grip on this that not one person there has succumbed to this virus.”

    Obesity appears to be a major risk factor for death from the virus, and Vietnam ranks lowest in the world on rate of obesity. By contrast, the USA ranks near the top.

    https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2228rank.html

  71. Not important and off topic but very many guards at the Nuremberg trials were indeed Balts, several of which were friends of my parents. I couldn’t understand why that was but it was.

    I am just mentioning this in the interests of historical truth, minutia notwithstanding.

    Cheers-

  72. Poco says:
    @alex in San Jose AKA Digital Detroit

    Well, thanks. I was fortunate in my choice of a father.

  73. Poco says:
    @Shipra

    Thank you. I was given an advantage in having a great dad to teach me and give me a head start with land and being physically competent.

  74. mh505 says:

    Ron Unz is convinced this pandemic is an American biowarfare attack on China.

    Mr Unz seems to be convinced of many things, see below (this is a sample only):

    April 4, 2020 = “I wouldn’t be shocked by 1M American dead by early summer, and I suppose even 2M might be possible.”

    April 3, 2020 = “Anyway, my guess would be that there’s getting close to 1M infected New Yorkers by now, so it’s really just a question of shifting those projections over by a week or so.”

    April 2, 2020 = “that millions of Europeans may soon die in the outbreak”

    April 2, 2020 = “The horrific calamity now befalling America, perhaps involving a million deaths by early summer”

    April 1, 2020 = “Meanwhile, I think New York will be lucky to avoid at least 100K deaths by early summer”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Johnny Rico
  75. anon[191] • Disclaimer says:
    @David 'The Diversity Mastermind' Lammey

    What language are you writing in? I think the only word I understood was bar mitzvah which incidentally is the most popular drinking establishment in Tel Aviv.

  76. anon[191] • Disclaimer says:
    @HenryTJ

    Wearing gloves are great but you need to wash the gloves as you would your hands. I see too many fast food workers using gloves to handle food but then make change for you and/or touch their face and then go on to the next customer to do the same thing over again. What’s the point?

  77. Please watch the latest interview of David Icke by Brian Rose at davidicke.com about the coronavirus scam.

  78. Linh Dinh says: • Website
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Reading comprenhension must not be required to get a doctorate these days.

    I never said “anyone who doesn’t believe it was a miscalculation must be stupid and filled with hubris.”

    I said, “Stupidity or hubris will lead to miscalculations, and since the world is filled with stupid and/or cocky people, history is a litany of often spectacular miscalculations. On an individual level, some people even miscaculate each time they open their mouth, thanks to their risible hubris.”

    I was responding to the doctor’s statement, “You’ve got to admire the mentation here. Ordinarily conspiracy theorists adhere very strictly to the rule of cui bono? Whoever stands to benefit must have done it. But, happily enough, even when the rule fails, as here, it still points to the guilty party! We’ll just say he miscalculated, that’s all.”

    The doctor laughed at my suggestion that the perpetrator of the bioweapon may have miscalculated, “If the coronavirus pandemic is indeed the work of Uncle Sam, then he may have shot himself in the foot, or even worse, in the head,” so I reminded him that history is a litany of miscalculations.

    I’m not rude or insane enough to ever say that anyone who disagrees with me about anything must be stupid, but I can only conclude that only a very dim doctor can miss the speculative nature of simple words like “if,” “indeed” or “may.”

    In any case, I hope this doctor is not a medical one, since there’s not an ounce of compassion in his soul, as testified by his response to my “Let It Cull”, “This whole bizarre rant seems oddly suffused with a kind of secular Christianity, ascribing a value to life, and especially showing a concern for “the poor”, that is entirely unwarranted. People are scum, and life is war. They constantly try to exploit one another; constantly seek their own advantage. It has always been so, and always will be so. All history testifies to it; all literature illustrates it. The greatest favor you could do most of these miserable bastards is ending their lives.”

    Yes, there is much ruthless exploitation constantly going on, but there are also plenty of kind, considerate and helpful people out there, and I’ve met countless, in many countries, of all races. Only a miserable, hubristic bastard can miss such abundant evidence of warmth, beauty and sweetness.

    • Agree: utu
  79. @anon

    Handling money/cards then handling food, woops mgr. says you have to go clean the loo…

    Best system I’ve seen was at a highway rest stop in Japan. You choose your meal at a kiosk, pay, then you get a ticket and cooks get a ticket. They cook your food, someone takes your ticket or even just looks at it, hands you your bowl of noodles with seaweed (what I got) or whatever.

    This was mid-90s. Cooks don’t have to handle money, cards, etc. Cashier (who may still be cleaning the loo) has minimal contact with you.

  80. utu says:
    @Linh Dinh

    “…not an ounce of compassion in his soul…” – He has no soul.

  81. Linh Dinh: “I’m not rude or insane enough to ever say that anyone who disagrees with me about anything must be stupid, but I can only conclude that only a very dim doctor can miss the speculative nature of simple words like “if,” “indeed” or “may.””

    What a weasel. It’s pretty obvious to me, and should be to any honest reader of your constant and pathetic conspiracy mongering, which seems a feature of every piece you write, that you believe this crazy hypothesis. You were insulted because I pointed out your elementary logical mistake in dismissing what would usually be taken as exculpatory evidence, and even with your “miscalculation” dodge trying to turn it into a further reason to believe. That’s why you here now double down and call me stupid for not going along with it. Sorry, but whites in the USA are so spineless and afraid of appearing racist or un-Christian they can’t even manage their negroes, or their borders. To think that a US gov’t still controlled by such people would risk starting a nuclear war by launching a covert, biological attack on China seems to me laughable on its face; and particularly by using this virus, which from all indications is usually only deadly to the morbidly obese or otherwise very sick people.

    The miscalculation dodge isn’t limited to your use of it here, by the way. It’s a general feature of conspiracy theories, and a pretty hackneyed one at that. Who did it? Why, whoever benefited, of course (i.e., Jews, Freemasons, the deep state, the globalists, the rich … whatever target you like). Oh, wait, they didn’t benefit? Then they miscalculated.

    Such “reasoning” (if we can call it that) is what is stupid and hubristic. Yes, you have been clever enough to hedge your bet with “if”, but your reaction when called on your bullshit is very revealing. It’s clear enough to me that you believe it and want your readers to believe it. Otherwise, why mention it at all?

    Linh Dinh: “Yes, there is much ruthless exploitation constantly going on, but there are also plenty of kind, considerate and helpful people out there, and I’ve met countless, in many countries, of all races. Only a miserable, hubristic bastard can miss such abundant evidence of warmth, beauty and sweetness.”

    This is the sort of thing I mean. You are here attempting to come across as “a moral person”; to puff yourself up in your readers’ eyes and in your own eyes, while denigrating me, a man who has done no more than tell you the truth. To be succinct, that is what scum does.

    The remarkable thing about charity, and kindness, and any kind of social behavior, is that it can be explained in terms of individual advantage. In this way of viewing the matter, human societies arise from the very structure of reality. The mere fact humans reproduce sexually rather than asexually forces the formation of families; also, because a group of people, working together, will nearly always be able to defeat an individual working alone, they will be favored over the latter in the struggle for survival. Therefore, the individual is forced by the world’s hostility to him into association with others. Yet because life at its most basic level remains a struggle of all against all, such alliances must always be fragile and temporary. Imagining they are not or need not be is a Christian delusion, tied in with its ideas of selfless love and universal brotherhood. People need to believe in such nonsense, but to the contrary, there always exists a dynamic tension between an individual and his surrounding society; a fight for mastery between them, the one over the other.

    If we phrased this in moral terms , we could say the world is a wonderfully evil place, so ingeniously constructed that its monstrous evil even generates illusions of charity, kindness, and love. In that sense it’s truly, as I said before in an earlier piece you wrote, a “beautiful hell”. However, since there is no God, there is no evil; there is, as Democritus perceived so long ago, only atoms and the void.

    • Agree: Adûnâi
    • Replies: @Dumbo
    , @Adûnâi
  82. Anonymous[223] • Disclaimer says:
    @mh505

    I think he should change his name to Wrong Unz.

    It’s ok. He can just wait 10 years until everyone has forgotten and then do a retrospective American Pravda and present himself as the light of wisdom. So Jewish.

    • Replies: @mh505
  83. @mh505

    Mr. Unz seemed to bet the site on any and every conspiracy theory and theory regarding the coronavirus hoping something would stick. It looks at this point like he lost that bet and the site has lost virtually any credibility it had as a non-mainstream source of information.

    For a month he threatened muzzling “hoaxers” and then allowed Andrew Anglin, the biggest fraud and buffoon on the internet, to write a piece arguing the same points that the supposed “hoaxers” were making.

    Remember these articles?

    Lance Whelton had a piece published on UNZ every week going back to at least 2018. But nothing since March 8th. That’s not weird at all, right?

  84. CmonUNZ! says:

    Don’t understand why the subjects covered in the following clip and elsewhere (Dr. Kaufman) have not been explored here at UNZ …

    Consider Peter Deusberg’s book Inventing The AIDS Virus as well… Dr. Fausti is all over the HIV=AIDS scam too…

    No Virus ID = NO possible “antibody” test that has any degree of reliable accuracy concordant with this draconian globohomo pantsuit manufactured trash emo response of our so-called leaders… same with AIDS – HIV never met identification standards and therefore the T-Cell “antibody” test was a load of scientistic diarrhea . Not to mention the CDC changed the definition of “confirmed” death for your cornholio to include anything and everything , requiring no lab results .

    This is a spiritual war . They stole the traditional representations of man’s inborn religious inclination and replace the gaping void with the Grimoires of Virus Demonologies and the Lesser Magic of Vaccines , couched in Latin no less… give me a break . How about a cosmology that doesn’t invoke internationalist house arrest with a hefty dose of a hyper feminine cowering conformity , faggots .

    “Social Distancing” – reminds me of how the progressive yuppies adopted the “partner” terminology from elite buggery circles in Scat Francisco . Completely degenerate public sphere… America has become an hysterical jewish princess… lo , the world.

  85. bjondo says:
    @Emslander

    A nice memory for all would be
    Gates and Fauxci falling off Empire State Bldg.
    Holding hands.

    5 dancing shlomos

  86. Dumbo says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Jesus, shut up already! 😀
    What’s your PhD in, windbag mechanics?
    Linh said exactly what he said.

    P.S. I personally don’t believe corona is a “bioweapon”, at least not in the usual sense. The panic/lockdown was the weapon. The virus (which may have been indeed artificially created, but not as a WMD) was just the excuse to promote all the authoritarian and needless measures we have seen.

  87. @Linh Dinh

    Good Morning, Linh, This Dr. Morgan character. reminds me of more than a few psychopath medical doctors in US, that operate on greed and could care less about their patients……don’t pay any attention to the many nutcase psychopaths of this world…Be careful and take care of yourself, both physically and mentally. Cheers, Tom

  88. @Slimer

    True. The most WTF! about that guy’s story was saying that Western Europe will be much in the same state as America after the collapse while totally disregarding the huge geographical disparities between these two areas of the world. Western Europe is A LOT more densely populated, which means its more extensive rail network will be easier to maintain. It’s unlikely they’ll ever get back to hippo transportation. Furthermore, France and some smaller countries use nuclear energy, and the Uranium powering those can fit in a single shipping container, which means you won’t need much sea traffic to keep them running.

  89. @Johnny Rico

    I agree with most of your post — this later “let’s blame the Coronavirus on the US” idiocy is particularly chagrin. But Anglin had a right to reply, as per journalistic code of conduct.

  90. Adûnâi says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    > “To think that a US gov’t still controlled by such people would risk starting a nuclear war by launching a covert, biological attack on China seems to me laughable on its face; and particularly by using this virus, which from all indications is usually only deadly to the morbidly obese or otherwise very sick people.”

    Then why did China react with such vigour in January 2020? In order to demonstrate an imitation of wild activity, and the Chinese & Korean Parties’ warm care for the people? If so, were these objectives worth crashing the Chinese economy, and why? This to me makes no sense at all. We can talk all day about the irrationality of the Westerners, but aren’t Socialist Orientals supposed to be rational and all their policies calculated? Or are they trying to bring about a worldwide revolution?

    Other than that, it is always a pleasure to read your contribution!

  91. mh505 says:
    @Anonymous

    One needs to give him credit for one thing though: he allows – sometimes very – critical commentary. Such benevolence has become very rare and should not be underestimated

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  92. @Johnny Rico

    Lance Welton is still stubborn on “racist virus thing” in his website.

    https://vdare.com/writers/lance-welton

  93. glib says:
    @Anonymous

    Good question. Two ways

    1) Pastured lard does have 2000 IU/100 grams. Every other animal food is well below, and vegetable foods are at zero.

    2) much more important, vitamin D is efficiently recycled in the liver, unless your diet is high in carbohydrates. Ancestrally, all northern population ate animal foods exclusively.

    You can root around paleomedicina Hungary, they have written a paper to solve this paradox (people living beyond the arctic circle can not produce vit. D endogenously, but they do not have deficiency).

  94. mike99588 says:
    @Anonymous

    Klenner’s genius on IVC is finally being recognized by more MDs because of the coronavirus disaster in the ICU. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7172861/
    See how many times Klenner is referenced now, after being ignored and mocked decades for some basic truths.

    Klenner published these answers, above, in papers 1948 – 1971.

    What’s insane, monumentally stupid, and too often fatal in illness, are the old RDAs (e.g. 40 – 45 mg in many countries, US 60-90 mg) for what is a massive vital hormone in most animals.
    http://doctoryourself.com/role%20of%20AA%20in%20covid%2019.pdf
    That fatal part has come a cropper with SARS2…
    Literally for many doctors where I live, learn or die.

  95. Anonymous[223] • Disclaimer says:
    @mh505

    That’s mostly true, although he did delete some of my comments and other corona skeptics reported their comments disappearing too.

    The reason it’s so important to bring this to light is because the site has had, up until now, an excellent track record and has been a real bastion of free speech. It’s particularly critical to nip this in the bud because even a few deleted comments can change the outcome of a discussion, as key posters get fed up and leave quietly.

  96. mcohen says:

    possible Earthquake alert kinneret.

  97. @Mackerel Sky

    So on the facts, China applied its own laws properly.

    If you approve of chinese or other barbarism because it’s codified, that’s your right.

    I don’t.

  98. Che Guava says:
    @Linh Dinh

    Maybe if Max of the pretentious name and talk was to having some idea of 2 chan,
    If he is to bheck it, he may have a change of thought.
    I really appreciating the later poster who was calling him ‘pretentious’. I had to look it up, but it is perfect, the name and words are both to fit the definition.

  99. orionyx says:
    @Anon

    And selenium, magnesium, and vitamin B1. Then cut out sugar as completely as you can. And if you’re black, don’t rely on sunshine: eat plenty of butter. Not that fake stuff from factories: butter from cows.

  100. orionyx says:
    @Sentient

    This virus did no harm to the economy or the population. It was the lunatic response to the virus that did the damage. The lunatics who caused it have to be found and terminated.

    • Agree: Che Guava
  101. orionyx says:
    @obwandiyag

    Quarantine is as time-honored as the hills because it saves lives.

    Locking healthy people up is the exact inverse of quarantine, which is the segregation of the diseased from the healthy population. Nowhere has it ever been shown that lockdowns work, and nobody has shown that this covid racket is based on anything more than a bad flu.

    Perhaps you missed that part when you attended epidemiologist school.

  102. roonaldo says:
    @mike99588

    Adelle Davis discusses Dr. Klenner’s (then chief of staff at the Memorial Hospital, Reidsville NC) vitamin c treatments and remarkable patient recoveries in “Let’s Eat Right to Keep Fit,” 1970, still a useful book. Her chapter on vitamin d says it had been proven that vitamin d is formed in the oils on the surface of the skin and absorbed into the body afterward, so that washing the oils off before or after exposure to sun, or swimming during exposure, thwarted the process.

    In my Internet ramblings I ran across doctormurray.com, articles, immune system–lots of interesting stuff related to flu vaccinations and increased SARS susceptibility, hydroxychloroquine and zinc and the use of quercetin and zinc, ACE inhibitors and SARS susceptibility, and past attempts to produce SARS vaccines that didn’t pan out.

    A couple of weeks ago rt.com had an article discussing Eastern European countries and their much reduced death rates from covid19, speculating that BCG tuberculosis vaccination could be a reason. Today I find an article (sorry but I don’t have the reference, “embo” I think was part of the website name), which says that serious trials to research that are planned. There’s a fellow, Yoichi Shimatsu, who I ran across at rense.com, who early in his now 22 part series on covid19, stated that the virus has HIV and tuberculosis genetic snippets tacked onto it, and that it is a bioweapon sponsored by MI6, anti-CCP Hong Kongers, and yakuza-Abe family folks, and he suspects Falun Gong as well, with the international military games in Wuhan being the release point. I’ve read some of his series, and at times I think he’s half crazy, but perhaps also half genius or maybe ingenious. Number 20 was a wild one. But, I ramble–stay healthy, best wishes.

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