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Every mainstream media channel, with the sole exception of Fox, broadcast the live unfiltered feed of the first day of the January 6 hearings last Thursday. Just like on September 11, 2001, when you could endlessly flip channels and see nothing but the same images of planes-into-buildings-then-buildings-exploding-into-pyroclastic-monster-clouds-chasing-terrorized-citizens-through-the-streets-of-New-York while anchors and guests alternately chanted and insinuated “Bin Laden Bin Laden Bin Laden,” the near-unanimous decision by media moguls to broadcast exactly the same material was designed to guarantee a large audience and an even larger propaganda impact.

Unfortunately for the propagandizers, the January 6 hearings’ audience and impact were not in the same league as 9/11’s. In fact, the hearings drew only half the audience of Joe Biden’s State of the Union Address. As Politico lamented, “Total viewership of the Jan. 6 committee’s opening hearing was modest compared to other primetime political events…”Several MSM headlines angrily blamed Fox. The Washington Post: “Fox News didn’t just ignore the Jan. 6 hearing. It did something worse.” Rolling Stone: “Fox News Did Everything It Could to Keep Its Viewers From Learning the Truth About Jan. 6.” The Guardian: “As America watched Capitol attack testimony, Fox News gave an alternate reality.”

But it isn’t Fox’s fault that the media has failed to convince most Americans that January 6 was, as Chuck Schumer claims, another Pearl Harbor. (Since 9/11 was already the New Pearl Harbor, Schumer’s version of January 6 would have to be a New New Pearl Harbor, which has too many News in it to become a catchy slogan.) So if the neocons and their neolib accomplices want to memorialize the January 6 protest and relatively mild riot as a “catastrophic and catalyzing event, like a new Pearl Harbor,” they are going to have to find a time machine and set the dials for 1/6/21 and plant bombs in the Capitol and blow up thousands of people. Pyroclastic clouds chasing terrified politicians through the streets of DC while the Washington Monument loses its erection and tumbles to the ground would also be a nice touch.

The problem with the January 6 hearings, as “J-Mike” Springmann and I noted in the above video, is that they are demonizing the wrong people. If you are a neocon-neolib and want to bring people together in shared hatred of a scapegoat, as taught by Carl Schmitt and Leo Strauss, you need to find a villain out of central casting, preferably a foreigner with an iconic beard or mustache like Hitler or Bin Laden or Saddam. Unfortunately for the neocons, Q Shaman’s facial hair is overshadowed by his Buffalo headdress; and besides, he isn’t a foreign leader, but just some random crazy guy with odd but photogenic sartorial tastes.

The MSM lynch mob and their friends in the Justice Department are trying to sell the notion that the people who showed up in DC on 1/6/21 were treasonous “insurrectionists.” In reality, they were mainly just ordinary Americans who came to protest what they viewed, rightly or wrongly, as a stolen election. Even Trump and his aides who may have conspired to try to seat alterate slates of electors in hopes of getting the election thrown to the House were presumably sincere in their belief that the election was rigged. So their real crime is not believing in the unimpeachable integrity of American elections. That is hardly an indictable offense, since those who have investigated the claims of the election integrity movement, which is mainly made up of leftists and Democrats, know that anyone who believes in the unimpeachable integrity of American elections is either ignorant or insane.

In short, the Democrats and their lapdog media are trying to unite America in hatred of ordinary Main Street Americans who don’t trust the results of our extremely dubious elections. That isn’t going to work. No wonder most people are disobeying media orders and refusing to tune in to the “must-watch” January 6 hearings.

It’s obvious that the real aim of the January 6 hearings spectacle is to drive a stake through the heart of Donald Trump and his MAGA movement. It’s equally obvious that the current approach isn’t working. And it is even more obvious—at least to the tiny fraction of us who know the score—that the Democrats are missing out on the opportunity of a lifetime to permanently discredit Donald Trump.

If the Democrats and the rest of the Establishment really want to take down Trump, all they need to do is cancel the January 6 festivities and instead hold hearings on a vastly more important issue: The question of where COVID-19 really came from. Those hearings should focus on the highly persuasive evidence, admirably compiled by Ron Unz in his free e-book, that COVID-19 emerged from a Trump Administration biological attack on China and Iran. And though Trump himself probably didn’t know about or approve the attack—the leading suspect is Mike Pompeo—the crime happened on Trump’s watch and was very likely committed by Trump’s appointees.

Imagine a congressional committee grilling Pompeo till he breaks down and confesses to reckless homicide in connection with the deaths of more than a million Americans and more than 15 million people worldwide! I guarantee that those hearings wouldn’t pull in a measly little audience half the size of the one that sits through Biden’s State of the Union speech.

For an explanation of why such hearings really ought to be held, check out my new interview with Ron Unz, publisher of the Unz Review, and author of two brand-new books, Our Covid-19 Catastrophe: Was the Epidemic the Result of Biowarfare Blowback? and Encountering American Pravda: Essays in a Historical Counter-Narrative.

Note: If you have already listened to my COVID-related interviews with Ron Unz, watched our video that is approaching 200,000 views, and are familiar with the evidence that COVID emerged from a US bio-attack on China and Iran, you may want to scroll down to “Part 2: The COVID Bio-Attack, the Ukraine War, and Other Neocon Debacles.”

Ron Unz: Why Can’t People Face the Evidence that COVID-19 Emerged from a Deliberate Bio-Attack?

 


Quick Transcript of 6/11/22 Truth Jihad Radio interview

Kevin Barrett: Welcome to Truth Jihad Radio. Kevin Barrett here, bringing on the most interesting people I can find who have something unusual, interesting or provocative to say that isn’t the usual corporate mainstream media pablum. And today I’m bringing back the maybe the most important guy in the alternative media. I would probably make that argument, and other people would too. That’s Ron Unz, publisher of The Unz Review. And he is now not just a cyber-author, but also a regular author with two new books that just came out. And we’ll talk about those and about what’s going on right now in the world. So, hey, welcome, Ron. How are you?

Ron Unz: Hey, fine. Great to be here.

Kevin Barrett: So you just published a piece explaining why you hadn’t been publishing anything for a little while, and you summed up the COVID situation and mentioned your take on it, and how mystified you are that the evidence that you’ve uncovered that COVID was likely a U.S. neocon bio-attack on China and Iran has been lurking at the margins, racking up Rumble views, but hasn’t penetrated the mainstream yet. So maybe we could start there and and quickly summarize the points you made in that article.

Ron Unz: Sure. Well,the whole situation is really quite bizarre from my perspective. The COVID outbreak, according to the most recent World Health Organization estimates, probably killed about 15 million people around the world. And actually, The Economist, based on excess deaths, thinks that the figure might even be closer to 20 million. And it’s killed at least a million Americans now officially, and probably the numbers are a little bit higher than that. So we’re talking about a gigantic world event. It’s disrupted the lives of billions of people around the world. Most Americans spent the better part of two years in lockdowns. Our economy has been turned upside down. We ended up having a mass vaccination campaign with all these controversial vaccines, new technology vaccines. And so we’re talking about a global event probably more important than anything that has happened since the Second World War. And despite the huge loss of life and tremendous impact on the world, there seems a tremendous reluctance to actually explore the underlying reasons for the outbreak—in other words, what caused it. And the two theories that really have gone back and forth since the beginning… Obviously the original theory was that it was a natural virus, simply something that crossed over from an animal species randomly and just popped up in a totally unexpected sort of way. And then for about the last year, there’s been quite a lot of talk of the lab leak hypothesis, which is the notion that the virus was genetically engineered in a lab somewhere and then leaked out of the lab accidentally—probably the Wuhan lab in the city of Wuhan, which is where the virus first appeared.

So, you know, those are basically the two ideas that have been discussed. But from the very beginning, for more than two years, it’s seemed to me very obvious that there was clearly a third possibility that should be considered, a much more shocking and horrifying possibility. And that’s simply that the viral epidemic was caused by a deliberate biowarfare attack. In other words, if we recognize that it seems increasingly likely that the virus came from a laboratory, that it was a human produced virus, a genetically engineered virus, then it’s possible that it leaked from a lab somewhere, but it’s also very possible it was deliberately released. And it seems to me that the evidence that it was deliberately released, and in particular deliberately released by elements of the American national security establishment as a deliberate attack against China and against Iran seems very, very compelling. And I’ve been writing articles pointing to those facts and making the case for well over two years now. And it just seems very strange that there’s such tremendous reluctance, both in the mainstream media and even the alternative media, to even simply consider that possibility. Now the facts are very straightforward. America was in the middle of a tremendous geopolitical confrontation with China at the time the virus appeared. In other words, China was regarded as our number one international adversary. We were in a terrible trade war with China. There were even back then noises about possibly war breaking out over Taiwan. So we have a situation where America’s leading geopolitical adversary was suddenly struck down by a mysterious virus that at the time seemed that it had a very good possibility of spreading throughout the entire country of China and devastating the Chinese economy.

And very soon after the virus originally appeared in Wuhan, it suddenly jumped 3500 miles to the holy city of Qom in Iran and ended up affecting Iran’s political and religious elites. 10% of the entire Iranian parliament was affected. Some of the top Iranian leaders died of COVID. The the viral epidemic among Iran’s top political religious leadership occurred just a few weeks after America had assassinated General Soleimani, Iran’s top military leader. So we have a situation where the two countries in the world that America was most hostile towards at that moment in time were China and Iran. And both of them were almost simultaneously struck down by a mysterious virus that many people now believe was produced in a laboratory, a genetically engineered virus. So just on the face of it, the fact that virtually no one anywhere simply raised the possibility, merely the possibility, of the viral epidemic being a biowarfare attack seems really quite shocking to me. I’m not talking about hard proof based on what I’ve said so far, but simply raising the possibility. Americans may or may not be aware of it, but America has the world’s oldest, longest-standing biowarfare program going back to the middle of the Second World War. It’s been around for nearly 80 years now. America’s probably spent about \$100 billion developing its biowarfare technology.

Kevin Barrett: So if we’re not attacking China and Iran, we’re not getting our money’s worth.

Ron Unz: Exactly. When when a country has the world’s leading biowarfare system they’ve invested \$100 billion in producing, and at a point of international confrontation with China and Iran, suddenly China and Iran are both almost simultaneously struck by a mysterious virus that seems to have come from a laboratory somewhere — I mean, those are obviously the possibilities that have to be explored. And when you look at some of the other evidence, as I started digging into it in February and March and April: Another, very clear example is that in 2017 (Trump appointed as biowar czar) one of America’s leading biowarfare advocates, a man named Robert Kadlec, who has been writing about biowarfare since the late 1990s, arguing that biowarfare is a uniquely effective means of surreptitiously damaging or debilitating an international rival because it allows plausible deniability. In other words, there’s usually no proof you launched a biological attack against your adversary while you can do your adversary tremendous damage. So Donald Trump brought Robert Kadlec into his administration at a senior level in 2017. Then in 2018, China’s poultry industry was mysteriously attacked by a viral epidemic, avian flu, that devastated one of China’s main food sources, poultry. Then in early 2019 another mysterious viral epidemic hit China again, this time devastating China’s pork industry. 40% of all the pigs in China had to be destroyed. These were exactly the sort of food source biowarfare attacks that Kadlec had been advocating in his writings since the late 1990.

So we have a situation where basically Kadlec is brought into the administration in 2017. In 2018, a mysterious viral epidemic devastates China’s poultry industry. In early 2019, another mysterious viral epidemic devastates China’s pork industry. And then in late 2019, suddenly another viral epidemic, a respiratory virus that is deadly to humans, appears in the city of Wuhan, timed so that it would spread invisibly during the Chinese New Year holidays a few months later and potentially infect the entire country. And there’s more than that. From January to August 2019, Robert Kadlec, our chief biowarfare advocate, ran something called the Crimson Contagion Exercise in the United States. For eight months, he worked with federal and state authorities on how America could protect itself from infection of a dangerous respiratory virus. If such a virus suddenly, hypothetically appeared in China two months after the end of that long exercise, a virus of exactly those characteristics, the COVID virus… I mean, what a coincidence.

Kevin Barrett: Coincidence theorists are having a field day. Or they would be having a field day if anybody noticed these coincidences.

Ron Unz: Exactly. And when we hear (about) something called the Crimson Contagion exercise run by America’s chief biowarfare advocate, it sounds like some crazy conspiracy crackpot idea that you saw somewhere in the fringes of the Internet. The way I found out about it was a front page story in The New York Times describing the exercise and all the details about it. So all of this evidence is in plain sight. You can get it by looking at the front page of The New York Times. And yet that almost nobody in the alternative media has simply focused on this evidence is really shocking to me. It’s the sort of thing (that) it could be people are simply very nervous about. It’s one thing to accuse, for example, Donald Trump, of sending out nasty tweets to insult people or making crude remarks. But we’re talking about a situation where there’s quite a lot of evidence that the individuals that Donald Trump hired in his administration were responsible for a biowarfare attack against China and Iran that then leak back into the United States and has killed over a million Americans. We’re talking about one of the most horrific events in all of American history. And it’s just unbelievable that so few people are willing to even consider the whole thing.

Kevin Barrett: It’s probably because it is so horrific that it makes it harder for them to consider it. Just like with 9/11. Of course, 911 itself was obviously not nearly as horrific as all kinds of other mass slaughters, including those that our tax dollars pay for almost all the time. But the TV images, and indeed the nearly 3000 deaths all at once, in buildings being blown up like that, was so horrific in terms of its emotional effect on people that it became very, very difficult for people to face the evidence that indeed this had been a false flag operation from within the US and perhaps its partners. And COVID is far more horrific, as you say, in terms of the number killed. And I think that’s precisely the reason why it can be so easily hidden in plain sight.

Ron Unz: Yeah. You can imagine a lot of people simply being very, very nervous or cautious about making accusations of such monumental magnitude. The daily lives of virtually all Americans have been disrupted now for two years. A million Americans have died. And when you look at, for example, the very strong evidence that it was due to an illegal American biowarfare attack, again, with Donald Trump almost certainly being unaware of what was going on…But the people he hired were probably responsible for it. And so when you’re talking about something like that, it could be it’s simply considered too big a story even for people in the alternative media to consider. Though as you mentioned during the introduction, back in February, I finally started doing a few video interviews, notably with you and with other people also. And it’s just been very heartening that those video interviews have now gotten close to 500,000 views, despite the fact that the focus of attention has shifted so dramatically to the Russian war with Ukraine. So it’s clear we’re talking about hundreds of thousands of people have watched these discussions. And presumably some of them basically are starting to think, well, why aren’t other people in the media talking about it? And the truth is a number of people I do know in the alternative media have privately dropped me notes commending my articles and have been very encouraging and supportive.

But they’re very cautious about saying anything themselves. And so it’s just a very strange situation when you have what I regard as a lot of very doubtful theories floating around (such as) the idea that Bill Gates wants to exterminate the human race using vaccines — while on the other hand, there’s seems to be very clear and substantial evidence that when the two countries America’s most hostile towards are both hit by mysterious virus that probably came from a laboratory, it doesn’t take a lot of effort to connect the dots together and to see that the likely result is that America was devastated as a consequence. And not only that, but our European allies were devastated. Probably 4 million or 5 million Indians have died from the virus. We’re talking about a gigantic geopolitical event that certainly will rank among the most important developments of the last 100 years. And then when you look at the evidence that it probably was an American biowarfare attack and the fact that almost nobody’s willing to raise that question, it just quite surprising. And you know, a number of people have told me that once they actually see the evidence for the first time, they really find it quite compelling. And they’re really almost surprised that they’ve never seen it before anywhere. And it..the whole story is really strange to me.

Kevin Barrett: Yeah. Me too. Now, one of the areas where some of my listeners have questioned your hypothesis, which I largely would accept, is that they wonder about the blowback aspect being how this got out of control and affected the world and then especially the West so powerfully. And they often point to other signs of different kinds of agencies, and especially those in the W.H.O. and environs, having been aware that this was going to happen or was likely to happen. And it occurs to me that there are some parallels with what happened in the early days of nuclear weapons, when the US had a nuclear monopoly and a certain group of scientists and others on the US side actually realized that the US might very well use these weapons if it had the monopoly, and that it actually would be better to get the Soviets some nuclear weapons as well. And they went about doing that. And so you had two different groups at that time with this new and powerful weapon. And the one group was the patriots who just wanted to go out and use it for American power. The other group was the internationalists who saw the larger picture and were not committed to US interests so much.

I wonder if there could be a parallel now where the people who launched this attack on China and Iran, the Pompeo and Bolton style neocons, would have been the equivalent of the nationalists back then wanting to keep the nukes just for America. And then there might be a more liberal internationalist and perhaps Malthusian wing that also might have seen that if this attack were indeed contained inside China and Iran and were successful, that it would not only look very bad for the US, but China would probably retaliate. Iran might even as well. And that group might actually have thought that, number one, they can cover their tracks by spreading it worldwide. Number two, they can accomplish a lot of their other objectives, which actually do include depopulation. And I think there is some evidence that there are Malthusian individuals and groups that have been around for a long time who have perhaps been surreptitiously trying to control global population and who believe that the total global population should be much, much smaller than it is. So what do you think of that and these other hypotheses that would question your thesis that this was accidental blowback from a US attack on these other two countries?

Ron Unz: Well, I’m skeptical of some of those things. And obviously that ties in also with the whole notion of quite a lot of people have said that they think maybe all of this was simply designed to get Donald Trump out of office, in other words, to damage the American economy or American society so severely with lockdowns and economic disruption that Donald Trump would be defeated for re-election. And I’m really quite skeptical of that sort of analysis. For one thing, when you look at basically what happened in the time leading up to the release of the virus, the fact that America under Robert Kadlec had spent eight months coordinating its federal and state authorities planning on how to protect American society from spillover if a mysterious respiratory virus suddenly appeared in China — that eight months of planning didn’t work. But on the other hand, it does seem to indicate that they were making an effort to protect American society. I think really the reason the virus spread in the United States the way it did was more of government incompetence rather than anything else. In other words, the CDC ended up botching the production of a testing kit. So initially, for several months, there was no way for American authorities to check whether the virus was spreading or not. It was very difficult to determine who was infected. And then when you look at the lockdowns, again, there’s quite a lot of speculation going around that the lockdowns were part of some long-range planning strategy to devastate the American economy and increase the wealth of the wealthiest segment that was invested in high tech and Amazon and companies like that to destroy small business in America.

The lockdowns actually began in my part of the country. Basically, there’s one woman, a woman named Sara Cody, who’s the public health officer of Santa Clara County. And as the virus was spreading in January and February and the beginning of March in parts of the United States, including here in Silicon Valley, she actually got together with the other public health officers from the Bay Area, the five of them. Nobody really ever heard of her before. I mean, who’s ever heard of a public health officer? She wasn’t a prominent figure, but she and the other public health officers in the region decided that since the government, since Donald Trump and the people around him, were just ignoring the spread of the virus, they desperately needed to take some action to control it. And since lockdowns had worked in China and since the Chinese had seemed to be fairly successful in stamping out the virus in Wuhan and Hubei province and other parts of China through massive lockdowns, they decided that the only approach they could take would be to implement lockdowns here in the Silicon Valley area. So those were the first lockdowns in the United States. And then after a few days, they were then copied in Los Angeles. And a few days later, they actually were copied throughout the rest of California and then in New York City. But if not for Sara Cody and a few of these local public health officers, it’s not at all clear whether America would have actually implemented lockdowns.

Kevin Barrett: Do you still think those lockdowns saved huge numbers of lives? Because I know you published a piece early on suggesting that Sara Cody might have saved I forget the number of lives.

Ron Unz: One million.

Kevin Barrett: So we would have over 2 million deaths if it weren’t for her?

Ron Unz: The lockdowns were potentially effective. But the problem is, the reason the Chinese lockdown succeeded is that they were extremely strict and harsh lockdowns. Everybody was locked down. Hundreds of millions, I believe 700 million Chinese were locked down for a period of a few weeks, and that was sufficient to stamp out the virus, after which life went back to normal in China. And it’s been pretty much normal since then, except the last few months there have been some additional lockdowns. The problem with the California lockdowns and the American lockdowns is they were much more leaky. In other words, they weren’t nearly as strict as the Chinese lockdowns. So we had the lockdowns, but the virus still continued to spread. And the problem is, in hindsight, you can say the lockdowns really weren’t very effective at all, because basically what happened was, I think by now the estimates are that probably 50, 60, 65% of the entire American population has been infected by the virus. So that’s pretty much what would have happened if we hadn’t had the lockdowns. Now, it’s possible that the lockdowns were successful in causing the infections to sort of be spread out over time without overwhelming the health care system. So it’s possible that they saved some lives. But probably over a million Americans have died regardless of the lockdowns.

Kevin Barrett: So this raises the issue of the people doing eight months planning Crimson Contagion, Kadlec and his friends. Certainly if they thought they were preparing the US biodefense sector for this, it’s hard for me to imagine how they they thought hey were doing that effectively, given that apparently they didn’t stop to think about how in a society like China, it’s much easier to actually conduct these really strict lockdowns and contain this type of virus, whereas in the US it obviously wouldn’t be so easy. And you mentioned the lack of testing kits. For goodness sake, if they’re spending eight months drilling this bio-attack that they’re about to launch against China and Iran, and they’re concerned about the blowback, they’re spending eight months drilling it for it, why in the world wouldn’t they set up to have testing kits available? See, this is where your your thesis starts to make these people look even stupider than even I can imagine them possibly being.

Ron Unz: Well, one thing to keep in mind is I personally doubt that the people involved in the Crimson Contagion exercise were aware that there was going to be a bio-warfare attack against China or Iran. In other words, under my scenario, the number of people involved in actually planning the attack was probably a very small handful of people, probably four or five people, something like that.

Kevin Barrett: Right. Those people should have made sure that there were going to be testing kits.

Ron Unz: Right. But they probably didn’t expect it to really come back and hit the United States much anyway (like) the SARS-1 epidemic that had come up in China in 2002 to 2003. People in the rest of the world had been very frightened. There had been concerns that it might spread to the United States. But it never spread here. Not a single American died. It ended up being confined to China. And the MERS epidemic (2012) in the Middle East, again, killed large numbers (hundreds) of people in the Middle East. It never spread to Europe. It never spread to the United States. So, since those two previous coronavirus epidemics had never reached the United States, there probably was a belief that the same thing would happen with this one. In other words, it would end up being confined to China and possibly a few other countries bordering China. And obviously, if we hit Iran, it would be confined to Iran. But there probably was a tremendous amount of overconfidence that since those previous epidemics had never reached the United States, this one wouldn’t either. And so what I think probably would have happened is that the conspirators said, well, you know, let’s play it doubly safe, and let’s sort of suggest to various people in the administration that there’s always the risk of a virus suddenly appearing in China or somewhere else. And so we should have some planning exercises. But I really doubt that, for example, there’s really no certainty in my mind that someone like Robert Kadlec was actually among the conspirators involved in planning the biowarfare attack.

So it’s perfectly possible that neither he nor any of the other officials in the Crimson Contagion exercise were aware that they were actually working on something that might have real world consequences in the very near future, and it was just one of these planning exercises. Now, bureaucracies go through a lot of planning exercises all the time, and it’s very rare that any of them directly impact the world in the near future. So it could be they didn’t really take it that seriously. But it’s more the fact that we did have eight months of planning exercises aimed at protecting the United States, wargaming how we would protect the United States, from leakage with a dangerous Chinese respiratory virus if it appeared. And that something like that appeared so immediately afterwards, just a couple of months later, raises all sorts of extreme suspicions regarding timing. And my reasoning also applies to these various other things. Like there’s the Event 201 scenario that people have talked about a lot, organized by the World Economic Forum, and various other international planning events aimed at potentially coping with dangerous viral outbreaks in the rest of the world and how the individuals involved would protect their countries from those outbreaks. My speculation would be that the individual conspirators involved in planning this biowarfare attack probably would have decided to take the people in their orbit and suggest to them that “there’s always the danger of a virus breaking out somewhere. Don’t forget the SARS epidemic” (that occurred in China a dozen years earlier). And so for those reasons, they simply encouraged these international bodies to consider planning for dangerous viral outbreaks without any of the people involved being aware that some of the people that they knew might actually be planning to launch a biowarfare attack of that type. So there’s a tremendous difference between these sort of general plans that are taking place with these international organizations or, for example, somebody like the head of the World Health Organization saying that there’s a high likelihood of a dangerous virus sometime appearing in the future, and something where the timing is so extremely coincidental that it really raises a strong likelihood of foreknowledge on somebody’s part. The Crimson Contagion exercise, which was eight months of planning for a dangerous Chinese respiratory virus, followed just a couple of months later by exactly that sort of virus appearing in China and the real world, seems much more suspicious to me than these more general plans by the World Health Organization or other international bodies or the World Economic Forum, which are perfectly reasonable things for these organizations to have done over the previous few years.

Part 2: The COVID Bio-Attack, the Ukraine War, and Other Neocon Debacles

Kevin Barrett: Well, I largely agree. And one of the reasons that your scenario makes even more sense with a bioattack like this than it might with other kinds of military action, is that biological attacks can be launched by such small numbers of people with plausible deniability to the point that maybe they’re even invisible to the chain of command. As you suggested, it looks like Trump probably wouldn’t have known about this. And that also applies to any kind of thesis about deliberate blowback. When I mentioned earlier that there might have been some individual or group that actually wanted the blowback, it wouldn’t have to be any substantial bureaucracy or large number of people, because these biological attacks theoretically can come from very few people, and it becomes very difficult to identify who did them — as we know from the anthrax attack, which clearly came from the US bioweapons sector, almost certainly Battelle Memorial Laboratories in Ohio. And yet the two people that the US government pointed the finger at very likely are innocent, and we probably still don’t know precisely who was behind that 2001 Anthrax Deception, as Graham McQueen’s book title has it. So I think your scenario makes good sense. And the general suspects here all come out of the neoconservative school of thought, which is a very hard line, militaristic school, with links to Zionism, but is also on the record wanting to maintain the new American century and prevent the rise of any potential challenger to US power, as in the Wolfowitz doctrine. The 9/11 and the anthrax suspected perpetrators, and likewise the likely COVID perpetrators under your scenario, are coming from that ideological camp.

And now we’re in a war in Ukraine where the same school of thought seems to be trying to weaken and ultimately break up Russia by way of setting a bear trap like Afghanistan was in the eighties, and then deal with China, in order to maintain US supremacy under the Wolfowitz doctrine. I’m wondering about your thoughts on this continuity between the 9/11 and anthrax deceptions, the apparent COVID bioattack, and the war in Ukraine.

Ron Unz: Oh, I think there’s very clear connection there. And in fact, one of the probably the strongest argument anyone has raised against my hypothetical scenario is that they say they can’t believe that even rogue elements of the American national security establishment and the Trump administration would have been so incredibly reckless and foolhardy as to launch biowarfare attacks against China and Iran in these ways. That’s the only argument they really make on the other side — that they can’t believe anybody could have been that reckless.

Kevin Barrett: You know, that’s exactly what Pat Buchanan said to me when I mentioned Cheney and 9/11. “I can’t believe my friend Dick Cheney would do such a thing.”

Ron Unz: Yeah. But look at the situation in Ukraine right now. The Russians have been claiming for several months now that they have direct, solid evidence that America had been funding the creation of biowarfare laboratories close to the Russian border, developing systems for launching biowarfare attacks against Russia. Now, Russia has the world’s largest nuclear arsenal. It’s even bigger than the American nuclear arsenal. Russia can incinerate the American population. And when you look at, for example, Victoria Nuland’s testimony before Congress, she pretty much admitted the existence of those biowarfare labs. And more and more people know: Tucker Carlson on his show, Glenn Greenwald wrote a column… there seems to be fairly strong evidence that the Russians are telling the truth and that America was funding the creation of biowarfare facilities aimed against Russia in Ukraine close to the Russian border. Now, that’s an extraordinarily reckless and foolhardy action for America to take against the world’s leading nuclear power. And countries or groups that take extremely reckless and foolhardy action in one area of biowarfare are certainly much more reasonably suspected of doing something similar in other cases. We’re talking about biowarfare facilities being developed to attack Russia, and strong evidence that biowarfare attacks were also launched against Iran and against China in the year or two prior to that.

So, overall, all of this really fits together very effectively. We’re talking about a group of these deep state neocons or whatever you want to call them — people who are extraordinarily reckless in their behavior. And now we’re still on the brink of a military confrontation with Russia in Ukraine. When you take, for example, someone like the late Stephen Cohen, a leading Russia scholar — as of four or five years ago, he was arguing that America was closer to nuclear war with Russia than we’d been even during the Cuban missile crisis. And that was four or five years ago. Think of where we are right now. America’s intelligence operatives in the front page of The New York Times stories are bragging that we are supporting the Ukrainians in assassinating Russian generals. Can you imagine? The American intelligence apparatus is bragging to The New York Times that we are assassinating Russian generals in a war on the Russian border! That was something that would have been unimaginable during the old Cold War against the Soviet Union, because we had leadership at the time that realized that it’s very unwise to take actions that could risk a nuclear war. Well, that’s exactly what we’re doing right now in the Ukraine.

Kevin Barrett: Why do you think we’ve somehow gotten this incredibly reckless leadership now, post-Cold War? During the Cold War, there was a real threat and an ideology that with good reason the majority of Americans did not appreciate and that was, in fact, dedicated to spreading around the world. And we faced adversaries who really were a threat to U.S. interests. Today it seems that the threat from countries like Russia, China and Iran is much lower. And yet the aggression and sheer reckless depravity of the people running our foreign policy is so much higher. What explains that?

Ron Unz: Well, I think it’s the old phrase “power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.” After the collapse of the Soviet Union, America in a sense became the world’s supreme power with no peer competitor, with no rival. And that led to the sort of arrogance of power, the sort of feeling that America could do anything anywhere in the world without taking into account the logical consequences. When you look at, for example, the way America has behaved in the last 20 years, starting endless wars, attacking other countries, taking extremely reckless actions. And not only in foreign countries, (but also) domestically. The fact that we’ve inflated our currency — we’re really wrecking the American economy right now. We have a generation of leaders who came of age when they believed that America could do anything anywhere in the world to any other country, and no one could dare challenge us. And while they were sort of wrapped up in their arrogance, other countries — I mean, China basically — suddenly became a power that is certainly the rival of the United States. Under Putin, Russia rebuilt its technologies and actually Russia in many ways superior militarily to the United States with their hypersonic missiles and weapons. The problem is, though, the fact that we are not the uniquely all-powerful country in the world is something these individuals have a very hard time recognizing and accepting. And that’s obviously the reason that we basically provoked the Ukraine war against Russia, hoping to damage or debilitate Russia and regain our supremacy and then possibly encircle China. But it clearly hasn’t worked.

It’s been a disastrous geopolitical mistake. Look at, for example, someone like John Mearsheimer, who’s very hostile towards China and regards China as being our primary international adversary. From that perspective, a very logical thing to do is for America to basically become much more friendly towards Russia, to enlist Russia as an ally. And instead we have done the exact opposite. We have basically made Russia our sworn enemy. And now we’ve pushed Russia and China into an alliance together, with Iran as well. So what we have done because of our incredible arrogance and incredible recklessness is to push the major countries in the world that are not controlled by the United States into an anti-American alliance, including Russia, including China, including to some extent, Iran now, even including India, because of our arrogance. And so with these large and powerful other countries all forming a coalition against the United States, our power has very clearly been checked. And it’s just a very bizarre sort of thing that we’ve done. We’ve behaved in such an irrational way in the last 20 years since 9/11, but especially the last few years, that I think future historians, assuming the world doesn’t get blown up, will point to this as one of the most disastrous strategic mistakes any major country has ever taken. To push Russia and China together where they complement each other so effectively! Russia basically has massive natural resources and China has massive industry. And together they really are a very, very formidable power. We have created the Russia-China bloc.

Kevin Barrett: Right. If I were a professional paranoid conspiracy theorist, as I’ve been accused of being, I might wonder whether somebody working against the United States had created the neoconservative movement. I remember back in the in the day when James Angleton was running the counterintelligence division of the CIA, he was supposedly becoming paranoid and believing that there were there was a mole, a high level mole, who had infiltrated U.S. intelligence and was working against us. And this posed a grave threat to national security. And he embarked on a mole hunt that greatly weakened the CIA and the country. And at the end of the day, it looks like if there was a mole, it would have been him. And so today, one always has to wonder whether these neocons who blew up the Twin Towers on 9/11 and launched the anthrax attack, all of this weakening the United States in so many ways, leading to wars against countries that we had absolutely no interest in going to war against, and spending \$7 trillion plus for these wars, squandering our soft power and reputation… And then moving on to the COVID debacle that you’ve described, and this Ukraine debacle that you’ve described. If there were an enemy to the United States that could somehow infiltrate the policymaking apparatus, how could they do a better job than these neocons have done?

Ron Unz: I agree with you there. And the really bizarre and ironic thing is these crazy policies, which are so counterproductive to American strategic interests, now control both the Democratic and the Republican parties. The one thing the two parties agree on is that China and Russia are both our enemies, and we have to push them together into an anti-American coalition. It’s utterly bizarre. You really have to look long and hard for any major country in history, in modern history, to have taken such incredibly counterproductive actions as to push Russia and China together the way America has. And it makes absolutely no sense. And we’ve also devastated our own economy. Right now we have the highest inflation by most estimates we’ve had in 40 years — some people claim it’s the highest inflation we’ve ever had — because of our reckless spending, because of all these supply chain problems. We’ve really almost wrecked the American economy right now. And we have a stock market bubble. But once the stock market bubble collapses…you have all the crazy cryptocurrency nonsense and everything like that…once we finally have a collapse of the stock market bubble, I think America will be in a very, very difficult financial position internally. And again, we’ve brought it on ourselves. When you look at, for example, gasoline prices being so high, the reason they’re high is we’re preventing the Russians from exporting their gasoline.

Kevin Barrett: It’s price supports for Russian oil and Russian gas exports.

Ron Unz: It’s just crazy what we’re doing. When you look at, for example, what happened after the 1973 war, because of America’s support for Israel, you had the Arab countries, Saudi Arabia and the other Arab countries, basically embargo oil to the United States. Imagine what would have happened if in 1973 it had not been the Saudis that embargoed oil shipments to the United States, but if America had embargoed Saudi oil. That’s what we’ve done.

Kevin Barrett: Some think Kissinger actually did that on purpose in order to create the petrodollar.

Ron Unz: Right, there are various theories about what happened. But clearly what we’ve done right now is bolster the Russian economy by raising oil prices. The ruble is now stronger than it was before we implemented all these sanctions against Russia. Also because of these crazy sanction policies, we’ve basically destroyed the segment of the Russian elites who are most in our influence. In other words, all of these billionaires, the oligarchs, were the elements of the Russian elite that were most under Western influence. And that gave us some influence in Russian society. And we’ve basically devastated them. We’ve cut off our own potential supporters in Russia. I mean, in a sense. Quite a lot of people more aligned with other elements of the Russian camp have said that Putin probably is very happy with what we’ve done, because we have finally destroyed the power of the Russian oligarchs that he himself would not have been able to destroy. We’ve confiscated their yachts, we’ve confiscated their bank accounts. We’ve basically destroyed them. And those were the only Russians that we had influence over.

So it is really just utterly bizarre what America has done. And in the same way, for example, we have made it very clear to the Chinese that they have to develop replacement technologies and that they can’t count on the West — (that) at some point in the future we could cut them off from all of these technologies. So the Chinese are now making a tremendous effort to develop a domestic microchip industry that will be completely self-sufficient and insulated from Western pressure. It’s just unbelievably counterproductive, all of these things we’ve done. But we’re living in the West right now, so we’ll have to see the consequences of it.

Kevin Barrett: Right. And so in terms of pushing back against this, a few years ago, you published a very interesting article arguing that everybody who is concerned with these issues, especially the ones that are too big for the mainstream to talk about, should recognize that our primary enemy is the mainstream media itself. And so we should join together and overlook the differences of opinion amongst those of us who are pushing back against the mainstream on these issues and unite to beat up on the mainstream media. And I think you’re absolutely right. I think I was pretty much doing that even before you formulated it in that article. And today, I wonder if that strategy still has promise, or will we have to scramble and improvise something if and when the economic collapse changes the game board? What do you think we should be doing strategically now in terms of trying to push back against these completely insane forces that you’ve described?

Ron Unz: Well, I still probably would hold with my view that the mainstream media, the establishment media, must be the primary target of all individuals and all groups that are opposed to the status quo. The media is what has to be defeated before any of these other ideas can come out. And so even (among) individuals who may strongly disagree with each other about what direction the country should go or what the problems are, even which areas the media is most wrong in, I think effort has to be made to completely discredit the media. And once the media has been weakened, that obviously allows all of these other ideas to gain traction. And I think probably the most effective way of striking blows against the media is to focus on issues or facts that can be brought to the attention of people, and it can be pointed out to them that the media completely ignores them. To give the most extreme example: To the extent that my biowarfare hypothesis were more widely known and more widely believed, and if people started really thinking it probably was true or possibly true, or even a 20% to 30% chance it’s true, they really would have to begin asking themselves, why has the media ignored all these facts? And once you can point to a sufficient number of issues where the media simply ignores the reality of the situation and have covered something up, I think the end result is that the media becomes sufficiently discredited that people are willing to accept other hypotheses that the media ignores.

And as we mentioned right at the beginning of the conversation, I’ve just come out with hard copy editions of collections of some of my articles in my American Pravda series. And the first collection I came out with is a really slim volume containing the first articles in my American Pravda series, which really was primarily started after I came across the work of Sydney Schanberg, a very prominent journalist. He’d been a top editor at the New York Times, a Pulitzer Prize winner, a winner of two George Polk Awards. He’d written the classic Vietnam War story, The Killing Fields, which they then made into an Oscar-winning movie. It made him one of the most famous journalists in the United States. (He was) a very, very prominent, mainstream, respectable, highly regarded journalist. And he ended up, in the early 1990s, discovering the reality of the Vietnam P.O.W.s: the fact that North Vietnam after the end of the Vietnam War did very likely keep back hundreds of American POWs and demand that America pay the money that we’d promised them during the Vietnam peace talks. He ended up shocking me when I read those articles by him. The fact that nobody in the media was able to even refer to all the evidence he had on that shocking story, really one of the biggest scandals of the second half of the 20th century, with John McCain having been one of the key figures involved in the cover-up — the fact that somebody of that standing, that media credibility, had assembled an enormous mountain of evidence in favor of this gigantic scandal, and nobody in the media was willing to cover it — that really was one of the things that made me think that if something like that could be hidden by the media, many other things might be hidden as well. And that’s really what persuaded me to start writing my American Pravda series. So to the extent that I’ve been able to come up with a lot of these articles — certainly lots of other people have as well — major stories ignored by the media — if individuals then start seeing those stories could be ignored, they naturally should start thinking that quite possibly other stories could be ignored as well. And the combination of all those things, I think, makes the media much more vulnerable and much weaker. And people start to think that there might be many other things going on right now that the media simply ignores, including all of these controversial issues having to do with Russia and China and the Ukraine war and other things like that.

Kevin Barrett: Yeah, I think that’s true. I think that to some extent many of us had already been following your strategy for quite some time, especially in the wake of 9/11, and by weakening the credibility of the mainstream media to a certain extent, we open the door for Trump to win the presidency by beating up on the media in ways that were sometimes even crazier than the media’s position on things. And now the left-liberal dominant intellectual milieu has been herded into support for insane US policies against Russia and China, and silence on the COVID attack. They’ve been herded into extreme conformity and lapping up the mainstream narrative by the demonization of Trump, who was elected by those of us, or perhaps to some extent thanks to those of us, who bashed the mainstream media enough that a lot of people didn’t believe it anymore. So I think it’s a very complex and volatile situation. It’s not something that’s easily predictable how things are going to play out. But I think overall, your strategy makes a lot of sense in the long term as it’s really the the only available one. So that book is Encountering American Pravda: Essays in a Historical Counter-Narrative. It’s available on Amazon and I will link it at the radio blog, which people can find by going to truth jihad dot com and clicking on the radio link. And then also your other book is Our COVID 19 Catastrophe: Was the Epidemic the Result of Biowarfare Blowback? Both of these are now available in paperback, very reasonably priced, especially considering the explosive and very well-reasoned and condensed information in in these books. So congratulations, Ron. I appreciate your terrific work and I’ve already ordered both of these books, and I hope a lot of other people will, too.

Ron Unz: Hey, thanks a lot. And it seems to me one advantage of putting them in book form is if somebody, for example, orders a copy for a friend of his, it’s unlikely that the person would just toss it in the trash without at least taking a look at it. And once you start taking a look at it, one thing might lead to another. It could be somebody’s perception will really be changed on these historical events. So that’s one reason I wanted to price them very reasonably so that people could buy them for friends of theirs and that sort of thing.

Kevin Barrett: Okay! If you have any open-minded or halfway intelligent friends, consider sending them copies of the book. Well, thanks so much, Ron. It was great talking with you and catching up with you. I appreciate your fantastic work and I hope it staves off doomsday and/or the next neocon act of insane recklessness. All we can do is pray and say Inshallah.

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  1. JR Foley says:

    911 happened on a Tuesday. Night before on TV —sports action __WWF the Towers of Doom were going head to head against Big Boss Man and Diesel or was it Mankind and IRS??? My London aunt knew 45 minutes that Building 7 was a “goner” before Fire Chief was on TV –for his one and only one Interview starting “We decided to PULL it !” and GWB was reading kids My Pet Goat in Florida–Marvin Bush was Head of Security World Trade Center—–needed another Pearl Harbour to rally the dingbats.

    • Agree: Che Guava
  2. But it isn’t Fox’s fault that the media has failed to convince most Americans that January 6 was, as Chuck Schumer claims, another Pearl Harbor.

    In other words, staged by the Democrats for their own purposes.

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Haxo Angmark
  3. So why aren’t China and Iran raising this possibility?

    You’d think that if there was any plausibility to this theory, the governments of both countries would be announcing the intent to conduct investigations, even if they’re not confident enough yet to openly accuse the US.

    Or have they done so, and we’re simply not hearing about it?

  4. @Sollipsist

    Iranian leaders have directly accused the US, as Ron mentions in this interview and in his ebook. You didn’t hear about it because the media didn’t report it. China has made insinuations while stopping short of direct accusations, which could lead to popular demands that the Chinese government retaliate—demands that would complicate the lives of Chinese leaders who are trying to avoid war with the US (at least until they are strong enough to win).

    • Agree: Biff
    • Thanks: Sollipsist
  5. Realist says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    In other words, staged by the Democrats for their own purposes.

    With acquiescence by Republicans. Two sides of the same coin.

  6. Just fyi this documentary that was shown on HBO in 2006 shows that electronic voting machines are dumb and should have never been approved. Let’s get rid of them AND the current two major parties scam and create a party that supports our US Constitution for real. No more policing the world, sensible legal immigration, sound money and guard our borders. Basic sense. Also I joined the Tenth Amendment Center recently as they have an inspiring organization that teaches nullification from the wisdom of our Founders regarding small government and liberty.

    Hacking Democracy [Documentary] (2006) (1:21:58) – The film the voting machine corporations don’t want you to see. Hacking Democracy follows investigator/grandmother, Bev Harris, and her citizen-activists as they set out to uncover how America counts its votes. Proving the votes can be stolen without a trace culminates in a duel between the Diebold corporation’s voting machines and a computer hacker – with America’s democracy at stake.

    https://rumble.com/vbgv4n-hacking-democracy-documentary-2006.html

    Black Box Voting w/Bev Harris

    https://blackboxvoting.org/

    • Thanks: Nancy
    • Replies: @Nancy
  7. Phibbs says:

    The Russian oligarchs are mostly Jews, who are loyal to Israel. Israel owns the U.S. political establishment and media. Russia is battling the all-powerful Jews.

  8. @Kevin Barrett

    You’re absolutely right, Ron mentioned this and I overlooked it both times. Sorry!

  9. Where is the evidence that Covid-19 or Sars-Cov2 virus exists? There is none. Can you prove me wrong Ron Unz and Kevin Barrett? Covid 19 fails Koch’s Postulate. The virus has never been isolated yet the prattling about Covid 19 goes on and on. The bio-weapon is the vaccine and NIH’s treatment protocol including Remdesivir and ventilator.

    • Replies: @Kevin Barrett
  10. Although I think Ron is making a good case here, I find the case against lockdowns, masks, and vaccines to be at least — if not more — credible…

    • Replies: @DCThrowback
  11. 36 ulster says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    Sure, I believe that China wants to avoid war with the U.S.–not to mention Taiwan–but PLEASE! Does anyone really believe that the CCP leadership is paralyzed with fear of “popular demands” from its hoi polloi?

  12. This whole idea of impeaching Trump and putting him in jail has about as much weight as when he said he would put Hillary Clinton in jail. It’s all just theatrics for the masses. These “elites” sons and daughters marry each other, they go to each other’s weddings, funerals and schmooze with the “elites” of other countries, have all had something to do with Epstein and are connected with the WHO and WEF. It matters not if Trump gets in again as he’s just a bone for the masses to gnaw on. If a good potential leader ever emerges, he won’t be connected with either party, will be first ignored, then they’ll try to destroy him through name calling, association with the wrong groups, and if that fails, they will try to assassinate him, only then will you know if he’s the real thing.

    • Agree: Bro43rd, Brad Anbro
    • Replies: @Legba
  13. @36 ulster

    IIRC, back when the US spy plane crash landed on Hainan island after a mid-air collision with a Chinese jet in 2001, the Chinese people reportedly wanted a much more aggressive response than their government. Fortunately, the incident was de-escalated and both countries saved face.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hainan_Island_incident

  14. @BoomerDoomer

    It’s fine, Ron’s “Gell-mann-esque” amnesia that certain government entities still have some good in them (i.e., California’s public health response locking down millions actually saved lives – lol, ok) while the rest are scolerically rotted through is something he still has to work through. The rest of us have already crossed the rubicon and understand the rot goes all the way to the core.

    “Probably a million Americans would’ve died without the lockdowns.”

    Less would’ve died if governors in CT, NY, MI, PA and NJ didn’t return COVID patients back to assisted living facilities. There’s 40k deaths right there, 12k in NY alone under the guidance of the heroic Andrew Cuomo. 40% of all deaths in 2020 were in assisted living facilities btw (175k out of 400k deaths). That one million number is further diminished when it was revealed 94% of covid deaths were “with” and not “of”, in addition to the debacles of remsdivir and ventilators as Chris from Cackalacky points out above. It’s almost like they wanted to fail in the face of treating the virus. Davos would be proud.

    “I guess the partial lockdowns may have spread the deaths out.”

    Two weeks to flatten the curve. LOL. No evidence supports this flattening did anything except empower public health “experts” to make further non-evidence based proclamations about an airborne virus they knew little about. I will say Trump’s turnover to the Fauci-Birx committee which gave us “two weeks” was another Trumpian own goal that blew up in his face. At least Big Pharma delivered his big October surprise of working vaxx0rs…on November 5th, 2020.

    That all being said, these are petty disagreements in the face of Ron’s central thesis. We (likely) did this, we (likely) spread it, and we were not prepared in the least to just it run through the population while protecting our oldest and most vulnerable (in Sweden’s style), which, if silos talked to each other, would’ve been the proper plandemic response.

    • Agree: Bro43rd
  15. Legba says:

    The Jan 6 hearings got a smaller audience than the state of the union speech because people were watching the speech to see if Joe would shit his pants on live TV

    • Troll: Che Guava
  16. Legba says:
    @Joe Paluka

    So he’ll be the antichrist?

  17. “Those hearings should focus on the highly persuasive evidence, admirably compiled by Ron Unz in his free e-book, that COVID-19 emerged from a Trump Administration biological attack on China and Iran.”

    Sigh…. I was sincerely enjoying the article up until this point.

    These incessant plugs for Ron Unz’s pet theory (which remains stuck in February 2020 mode and seemingly ignores all the atrocities that have occurred since then in the name of “fighting Covid”) are starting to feel like paid promotional content.

    • Agree: RestiveUs
    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  18. @Chris in Cackalacky

    The assertions that COVID-19 doesn’t exist are based on blatantly fallacious flat-earth style arguments. Here is a good overview from COVID skeptic MD and biowar expert Meryl Nass: https://anthraxvaccine.blogspot.com/2021/02/again-is-virus-real.html

    Eric Zuesse notes: “in the latest year that the World Bank reports, 2020 (which was the first year of the covid-19 pandemic), this decline (in US life expectancy) greatly accelerated, by plunging 1.51 years (1.8 years for men, and 1.2 years for women), to 77.28 years (74.5 for men, 80.2 for women).”

    Though in 2020 there were modest upticks in suicide, ODs, and other lockdown-influenced deaths, balanced by a significant decrease in auto accident fatalities, these factors aren’t nearly big enough to create the overall excess deaths and subsequent implosion of life expectancy. There is absolutely no way that any sane, numerate person who examines the numbers could possibly blame this massive crash in life expectancy on anything other than COVID.

  19. @Reg Cæsar

    the demonrats had little or nothing to do with the 9/11 False Flag.

    the Neo-Con Zionist Jews who ran the show

    were all Bush43 regime republiscams.

    • Replies: @Richard B
  20. @allergic2katz

    So, in your opinion, and may not be both-and with more to come. Planning plus opportunism.

  21. @Legba

    According to the senile delinquents on the local ABC radio, plus their Yankee interlocutors, the panto got ‘massive’ audiences and has ‘traitor Trump’ quaking.

  22. @36 ulster

    The Chinese Government has overseen the greatest leap in standard of living for the greatest number in history. Who but a buffoon or malcontent would wish to overturn that? ALL surveys of public opinion in China, including Western ones, find MASSIVE support for the CPC at c.90%.

    • Agree: GomezAdddams, Iris
  23. IreneAthena says: • Website
    @Kevin Barrett

    There do exist sane, numerate people who, denying neither the reality nor the lethality of Covid19, and having examined the numbers, blame the massive crash on life expectancy mostly on Covid19 vaccines.

    They’re called actuaries.

    https://journal.rajeshtaylor.com/further-disturbing-rates-of-disability-mortality-in-life-insurance-data-since-covid-vaccine-rollout/

    I understand the motivation to tailor the message to reach the widest audience, etc.

    • Agree: Truth Vigilante, ariadna
  24. Alrenous says: • Website

    “I don’t believe the Official Press when they tell me the an american election was good, but I do believe them when they tell me a bad cough killed millions of people.”

    Lockdowns were quite deadly, at least. Lots of stress and poverty related heart attacks, for example.

    Luckily lots of children survived when they wouldn’t have, due to all the school closures reducing school exposure.

    • Disagree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  25. Children have ZERO risk from covid…..that’s why giving children the dangerous “vaccine” is a criminal act.

    • Agree: ariadna, IreneAthena
  26. Jim C says:

    >> And it’s killed at least a million Americans now officially, and probably the numbers are a little bit higher than that.

    Or the true figure is far, far lower.

  27. Even Trump and his aides who may have conspired to try to seat alterate slates of electors in hopes of getting the election thrown to the House were presumably sincere in their belief that the election was rigged.

    Throwing Trump Under The Bus #1
    “may have”, “presumably sincere”
    It has become perfectly clear the fat orange guy knew exactly what he was doing.

    And though Trump himself probably didn’t know about or approve the attack—the leading suspect is Mike Pompeo—the crime happened on Trump’s watch and was very likely committed by Trump’s appointees.

    Throwing Trump Under The Bus #2
    This take on the lazy orange fool is quite likely correct, for if he’d have known anything, “they” would have had to spend ages explaining about germs and such stuff. Also, there would have been the substantial risk of him running his mouth in a very leaky White House.

    Regarding 2024, I’m still predicting a combination of “fluffing” (adding another image to Mt. Rushmore) and serious legal threats to keep The Leader on the sidelines.

    Interesting story I just found by accident while looking into some Ukraine stuff:

    Report: War-Torn Ukraine Asks Israel for \$500 Million Loan
    June 15, 2022
    https://www.jewishpress.com/news/global/europe/ukraine/report-war-torn-ukraine-asks-israel-for-500-million-loan/2022/06/15/

    We all know the Apartheid state gets its way by bribery and blackmail, and this looks like a case of Ukraine playing the same game. If the shithole state is “examining” the matter, the “dirt” must be plenty good.

    Back early on in this war there was some gossip that among the reasons the Russians made a lunge at the Ukraine Nuclear reactors was to check on the manufacture of Tritium at those reactors. Useful stuff if Ukraine decided to go nuclear, and very necesary stuff for maintaining the nuclear weapons of the pissant state. Tritium has a very short half-life, and has to be constantly replaced in weapons. Making public a story about Ukraine selling Tritium to the pissant state would be quite a blow to God’s Most Favorite Thieves and Murderers.

    Regarding the biowar issue with those dozens of US military labs in Ukraine, I suspect Mr. Unz is underestimating the issue. Gossip already includes work on “ethnic weapons”, drug-resistant TB, and breeding disease-carrying mosquitoes for release in Cuba. This is all very probably the tiniest part of what has been going on, and lots of people are going to be sending serious money (or weapons which can be quickly resold) to Ukrainian blackmailers to keep the lid on the stories. (A fellow who has been nicknamed “Brandon” is in on all this up to his eyebrows.)

    If a bunch of those Ukrainians start meeting their Maker prematurely, I’m sure the Russians will be blamed. I won’t be quite as sure it will be the Ruskies who are responsible.

  28. Karl1906 says:

    Nobody’s really paying attention to this kangaroo court. As its existence alone proves the descent of politics and the US justice system to a third world level. And that’s already insulting to most of the third world to be honest.

    Just let it come to its “conclusion” and see what the Americans are going to do now that they’re proven to be a dictatorship run by the Alzheimers.

  29. frankie p says:

    Kevin Barrett,

    Have you entertained the idea that these January 6 Hearings have another function, namely a warning to the deplorable, conservative, legacy, white Americans against future protest? This cluster**** of a great reset is in its early stages only, and things are going to get MUCH WORSE for everyday middle and lower-class working Americans. Yes, the FED is currently crashing the stock, bond and housing markets with interest rate hikes and the first month of QT, but do you actually believe that they will follow through? Not a chance! To cool inflation of 8.6%, rates would have to go north of 9%. Do you try to imagine what that would do to the economy and markets? No, the FED will bail on the QT and the rate hikes, and inflation will grow. As it grows, the standard of living will continue to plummet. This will result in a visceral anger, a growing anger. These January 6 Hearing are a warning shot across the bow. Be angry at home. Antifa and BLM can burn cities and attack the white house, but if you deplorables come to Washington again, we’ll lock you up without charges, call you insurrectionalists, and generally make your life hell. This is the Jewish way.

    • Agree: peterAUS
  30. For a pathocracy that endlessly rabbits on about ‘the Rule of Law’, this kangaroo lynching is a hoot. NO defense allowed. A jury thoroughly rigged. Prosecution witnesses only, no cross-examination. Victim thoroughly demonised and judged a priori. NO examination of the ‘insurrection’ but Trump’s
    purported role. NO mention of the ONE dead, shot in cold blood by a guard. NO mention of the crucial role of FBI ‘informants’ as agents provocateurs, as in almost all US ‘terrorist’ lynchings. Etc. A sad, sick, farce. One really hopes that the Reptilians answer in kind once in power in Congress.

    • Agree: Voltara, Biff
  31. Dube says:

    Bait and switch, and I’m pissed. I was looking for an acerbic review of the current Impeachment theatrics. The elephant has its own circus.

  32. Anon[283] • Disclaimer says:

    Can one carry out a biological attack on China and Iran without the The Deep State of America?

  33. Demonizing demons (the complete Jewmerican “elite” from A to Z, including the Trumpet) is a start.

    America has no right “to American strategic interests”. The only right left for America is to get nuked.

    • Replies: @anon
  34. A famous man of the system, a white racist, millionaire and a good connoisseur of the dirty part of national life, is an untouchable.How many he would have bribed throughout his life and now they must protect him.

    • Replies: @Bro43rd
  35. The elephant in the room, if there is one, is so large that the committee inquiry would be endless and indeterminate by the time partisan Congress members had introduced vastly variant scientific (supposedly expert) evidence on naturally occurring v. Synthesised, the reality of the disease, where the virus was first detected/ evidenced in sewerage. the effects of vaccines etc.

    Of course the Democrats are understandably trying to ensure Trump is unelectable in 200 [good luck to them] but I don’t see Ron’s theory necessarily meeting that requirement. So Trump was let down by yet another lot of people who were supposed to work for him! IMO the big hope is that Trunp will get done for stealing the money raised to help fight the alleged election fraud.

  36. Nancy says:
    @Michael Atkinson

    Yet another example of how efficiently the ‘controlled’ MSM can ‘disappear’ the truth, and thereby neuter ‘democracy’ by vitiating the requisite ‘vigilance’. So easy, when you can buy/own everything, and it is all for sale. (To again repeat, the common denominator, Blackrock-Vanguard-State Street et al own controlling interest in 90% of all global corporations.)

    Also, latest comments demonstrate how their ‘divide & conquer’ strategy controls our attention… we love to hate the ‘enemy/team’ they’ve chosen for us…. while the puppet masters remain invisible … in plain sight. Two sides of the same coin, indeed, and we are soooooo easy to manipulate!

  37. TKK says:

    That Trump stole \$250 million from desperate rubes under the banner of STOP THE STEAL should be the focus of any hearings. He gave all the money to his friends, disgusting children and repulsive son in law. Remember: Trump has not given one dime to the poor saps who rot in prison after being arrested for trespassing after he whipped them up into a frenzy.

    A man who lets Kim Kardashian waddle into the White House and pretend to be a lawyer? He abandoned his base and catered to blacks and celebrities, who ridiculed him on Twitter after huge favors were secured.

    I am embarrassed I ever supported the obese con man. We, the white working class, are so desperate for any semblance of common sense and decency, that we fell for his con.

    Money ostensibly raised to “stop the steal” instead went to Mr. Trump and his allies, including, the investigation found, \$1 million for a charitable foundation run by Mark Meadows, his chit of staff; \$1 million to a political group run by several of his former staff members, including Stephen Miller, the architect of Mr. Trump’s immigration agenda; more than \$200,000 to Trump hotels; and \$5 million to Event Strategies Inc., which ran the Jan. 6 rally that preceded the Capitol riot. Aides said Kimberly Guilfoyle, the girlfriend of Mr. Trump’s son Donald Trump Jr., was paid \$60,000 to speak at that event, a speech that lasted less than three minutes.

    -Spectator

    • Replies: @CelestiaQuesta
  38. Jon Chance says: • Website
    @Kevin Barrett

    When massive waves of immigrants from “Greater Israel” and Communist China invade Europe and America, are we expected to pay for their “universal” healthcare, Covid-1984 paraphernalia, “public education”, and other “social services”?

    If so, why shouldn’t Americans and Europeans fight Communist China and Greater Israel now while we’re still capable of defending ourselves from the invasion?

  39. Nancy says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    This ”

    There is absolutely no way that any sane, numerate person who examines the numbers could possibly blame this massive crash in life expectancy on anything other than COVID

    ” ‘infallible’ blanket declaration is so disappointing. Indeed, Denis Rancourt, Ed Dowd, and many others have looked at the numbers and see a much more nuanced picture. It would seem that the ‘plandemic’ was planned with the ‘vaccine’ in mind (Bayer exec now admitting it is ‘gene therapy’, not a vaccine – which required WHO to change their definitions – but they had to mislabel it initially for public acceptance), when you look at all the numbers.

    And the jab, again, seems aimed primarily at the first world, as is the current economic attack on the ‘west’. Hmmm… a pattern? And whose Talmud teaches undying hatred of the Christian- European-‘white’ culture? And who are those whose name must not be mentioned? Hate laws anyone?

    Athena is right – the insurance industry is much more trustworthy than the public health/pharma industry.

    • Thanks: IreneAthena
    • Replies: @IreneAthena
  40. @Kevin Barrett

    You write:

    There is absolutely no way that any sane, numerate person who examines the numbers could possibly blame this massive crash in life expectancy on anything other than COVID.

    Kevin, I have a lot of respect for you but on this issue you [and Ron Unz] will be eating humble pie when all the facts become known.

    I suggest you read this comment of mine posted a few days ago elsewhere in the UR which is the first stepping stone in exposing that the massive crash in life expectancy is in fact due to something OTHER THAN Covid:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/a-million-american-deaths-and-400000-rumble-views/#comment-5394936

    The link above is to a ZeroHedge article titled ‘New Study concludes that LOCKSDOWNS caused at least 170,000 excess deaths’.

    • Agree: ariadna
  41. JackOH says:

    . . . instead hold hearings on a vastly more important issue: The question of where COVID-19 really came from.

    Big Medicine’s Iron Pyramid will likely be a big factor in the decision of whether to hold hearings on the origin of COVID-19. I know the mindset pretty well. The good-guy school will want hearings out of genuine concern for how we respond to the next pandemic. The not so good-guy school will want to quash hearings for fear they’ll turn into a fishing expedition that raises questions about why the United States did so poorly, and whether our method of distributing health care had something to do with that.

  42. anon[109] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kurt Knispel

    most white americans are a bunch of nigger-kike hybrids…..so whats the loss? I believe Hitler himself said amurricans are half-judaized, half-negrified, in addition to actual niggers and kikes themselves lol. America the land of subhumans.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  43. @Alrenous

    You wrote (without any proof – because there is none):

    Luckily lots of children survived [Covid] when they wouldn’t have, due to all the school closures reducing school exposure.

    I suggest you read this article:

    https://humansbefree.com/2021/03/zero-school-children-died-of-covid-in-sweden-during-the-first-wave-despite-schools-being-open-leading-academic-quits-after-intimidation-and-threats-for-his-findings.html

    As you can see, it’s titled ‘ZERO school children died of Covid in Sweden during the first wave despite schools being open …. ‘.

    I’m in Australia and, whilst there are some alleged deaths of children here, ALL the articles I read on those few deaths said something like this about ten paragraphs in:

    ‘Oh, BTW, said child that died of Covid had late stage LEUKEMIA etc’.

    It might not be that much of a stretch for me to say this:

    NOT A SINGLE CHILD IN THE ENTIRE FIRST WORLD that was PREVIOUSLY HEALTHY and without pre-existing comorbidities, died of Covid-19 before the introduction of the experimental mRNA gene therapies that masquerade as Covid vaccines.

    Since the vaxx rollout, we have heard of more deaths among children that are alleged to be due to Covid.
    Isn’t it amazing however, that a disproportionate number of these children had issues with [vaxx induced] myocarditis and pericarditis that almost certainly led to their demise, rather than Covid.

    Alrenous, I’ve been watching your comments of late and, whilst you do say some good things on occasion, you manage to squeeze out some doozies of disinformation from time to time.

    • Agree: Bro43rd, ariadna, dimples
    • Replies: @Alrenous
  44. Che Guava says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    Kevin,

    Your argument is interesting, but you miss two factors, both well-known.

    Health agencies all over the place were counting every death where a positive PCR test result could be obtained as a ‘Covid death’.

    This was official policy in many countries, including the U.S.A. and U.K.

    So deaths from many causes, including motorcycle accidents and others totally unrelated to any virus were being counted as Covid deaths.

    The devisor of the PCR technique plainly stated that it is not a diagnostic technique, and not suitable for use as one.

    Places that did nothing, e.g. Belarus, or almost nothing, e.g. Sweden, and many others, did not have apocalyptic death rates, and have similar or better stats on hospitalisation and death than those of the most draconian, like most of western Europe, and mid-level insane, like Japan, countries.

    I am not old enough to recall it much really, but have read about it, and it is undeniable that the whole swine flu I panic and problems were due to the vaccination programme in the U.S.A., particularly of military people.

    You can only compare 2020 figures, as flawed as they are by the ‘all deaths must be attributed to Covid’ policy in many places, to those for another bad seasonal flu year.

    The only extraordinary thing is the use of this for destruction and coercion, and the ridiculous length of time over which so many govts are trying to maintain those processes.

    • Agree: ariadna
    • Replies: @Mis(ter)Anthrope
  45. Rooster16 says:

    Misses, or purposely avoids?

  46. Bro43rd says:
    @Liborio Guaso

    A description apt for 99% of the politicos!

  47. It is a pipe dream that the US will ever acknowledge their bioweapons use. Plus the uniparty used Covid 19 to rid itself of the Donald. Its not Pelosi’s fault drippy and dull McConnell has lost the ability to shape the narrative so as to get Republican voters back on board of the uniparty agenda. Actually the only charismatic Republican right now is Marjorie Taylor Greene, and she supports the Jan 6 political prisoners. Strange little pickle the GOP has fermented itself into post Trump.

    However the election is process still broken in key states. So all is sort of good despite striking out on TV ratings for their show trial. Not to forget, the uniparty red flag gun law will soon target Trump voters for their wrong think. Although I am a bit curious how will Trump voters pass the new age psych laws that is geared to label them kooks in order to fight for the uniparty in their very desired WWIII. Yet another fermented pickle, but Covid will be the forgotten secret ingredient placed in the brine.

  48. WJ says:
    @Sollipsist

    It would not overly shock me that Pompeo did this, but as you said, how could China have not revealed this yet? With their surveillance society it would seem relatively easy for them to contact trace all known people coming in contact with human vectors in Wuhan in late 19.

  49. @anon

    Nah.

    White Americans have 100% European blood for the most part.

    You’re full of shit.

    • Replies: @anon
  50. @Kevin Barrett

    In Ron’s thread Iris posted a link to a Swiss virus guy which is very good.

    https://www.republik.ch/2021/06/05/herr-drosten-woher-kam-dieses-virus

    It is in German but google translate renders it with only one hiccup that I detected.

    1. It doesn’t support Iris’s point that I could see at all but I’m glad they posted it anyhow.

    2. The Swiss guy thinks it’s zoonotic!

    3. Maybe the godless Europeans will have an informative investigation?

    • Replies: @Iris
  51. Mefobills says:

    Ron Unz: It’s just crazy what we’re doing. When you look at, for example, what happened after the 1973 war, because of America’s support for Israel, you had the Arab countries, Saudi Arabia and the other Arab countries, basically embargo oil to the United States. Imagine what would have happened if in 1973 it had not been the Saudis that embargoed oil shipments to the United States, but if America had embargoed Saudi oil. That’s what we’ve done.

    Kevin Barrett: Some think Kissinger actually did that on purpose in order to create the petrodollar.

    Ron Unz: Right, there are various theories about what happened.

    ____________

    The nod goes to Kevin on this round. The crowd cheers!

    Here is Hudson from Superimperialism:

    Central banks do not buy stocks, real estate or other tangible assets. When Saudi Arabia and Iran proposed to use their oil dollars to begin buying out American companies after 1972, U.S. officials let it be known that this would be viewed as an act of war. OPEC was told that it could raise oil prices all it wanted, as long as it used the proceeds to buy U.S. Government bonds.

    The Saudi’s raised prices because they were allowed to, and because of the ‘grain shock.”

    These acts recall the 1971-72 “chicken war” between America and Europe, and the grain embargo that quadrupled wheat prices outside of the United States. It was this embargo that inspired OPEC to enact matching increases in oil prices to maintain terms-of-trade parity between oil and foodstuffs. The “oil shock” was simply a reverberation of the U.S. grain shock.

    The not so secret 1973 Kissinger Saudi Agreement is critical to understand. Saudi was disallowed from having its own “bourse” or exchange. It must sell oil priced in dollars. It must recycle its petrodollars into TBills or other dollarized instruments somewhere in the dollar zones of the planet (including Panama).

    What does Saudi get?: Front line military gear, including AWACs. Transshipment protection from the fifth fleet located in Bahrain. And – hidden security guarantees for American to go to war if Saudi is threatened, e.g. the Gulf War.

    The U.S long ago ceased to be sovereign, and now is a Golem of international finance capital, where the Federal Reserve System (private banks) have networked to become international. Their dollar is the coin of the realm.

    Prior to the dollar being the international “credit” of the world, it was London’s Sterling.

    Below is a very important ignored document that explains what a creditocracy is. The U.S. became the creditocracy, but behind dollar credit is the construct of Atlantacism; and with that you get the great game, world wars, pipeline wars, etc.

    https://www.unz.com/mhudson/beyond-the-dollar/

  52. What virus…and the biowarfare component is just a ruse!

    https://terrainthefilm.com/international-screening/

  53. Derer says:

    Although Trump is demonized by the orchestrated Jan6 hearing timing, most people believe that he played only minor role. It was a spontaneous unarmed protest against the (documented) election irregularities. How could an old geezer who received single digit from his own party at primaries received a record vote, even more then his president Obama.

    Why is now the overzealous and powerful Jewish Block of the Democratic party sending Jan6 protesters to jail from a carefully timed hearing? This Block was coincidentally spearheading Trump impeachment on his Ukraine flimsy set up. Why are investigative journalists hiding from getting to the bottom of the Trump antagonistic relation with every American Jewish organization, when he did more for Israel then previous presidents. Something is very fishy here, is it his seeking friendship with Putin against China?

  54. The following video is not entirely off topic as Jimmy Dore mentions the ineffectiveness of the lockdowns during the Covid Psyop among other things.
    But the rest of the content should resonate with all of us (watch the first 5 mins of this clip):

    Many of you will be well aware of the hard time I give Socialism and its misguided adherents.
    Well, Jimmy Dore is an admitted socialist.
    But, you know what, if I were eligible I’d vote for this guy in a heartbeat.

    Just behold that rant of his. No cue cards, no prompts from anyone.

    Every syllable of that rant CAME FROM THE HEART.

    Jimmy Dore is the REAL DEAL and there’s nothing like him – anywhere.

    And please, those of you that give Tucker Carlson a hard time on this issue or that because he doesn’t come out in full force and denounce some form of Zio malfeasance here or there, just bear in mind who owns the Fox network and what pressure is brought to bear on Tucker behind the scenes to not broadcast certain things he’d like to say.

    It’s a MIRACLE that he’s allowed to get away with what he does and we should all be thankful for that.
    There is NO ONE ELSE ON ANY OTHER NETWORK of the legacy media that is within ten orders of magnitude as far as truths he’s allowed to be spoken on his show.
    So give him credit for that.

    • Agree: CelestiaQuesta, Durruti
    • Replies: @Mefobills
  55. @Che Guava

    I know of two cases where elderly people who had been given just months to live (one because of kidney failure and the other cancer) died and Covid was recorded as the cause of death in both cases.

    • Thanks: Che Guava
  56. Billy Ash says:

    Why is Mike Pompeo the leading suspect?

  57. Iris says:
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    2. The Swiss guy thinks it’s zoonotic!

    That was, and still is, the WHO’s and all of the “good guy” scientists’ position on the subject of Covid’s origins..

    Those scientists are not irresponsible and crazy enough to fuel the fire of an all-out global geopolitical confrontation with incensing opinions.

    Indeed, Pr Drosten does not state that the COVID virus was engineered, but he well explains why, if ever it were, the genetic manipulations would not have been performed for medical Gain-Of-Function purposes, and could not have been done by the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

    I posted a translation for you on the other thread:
    https://www.unz.com/runz/an-independent-inquiry-into-the-american-origins-of-covid/#comment-5400477

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
  58. This interview confirms my personal observations – most people are unable to accept the fact – backed up by clear and often overwhelming evidence – of the willingness of their country’s leaders to commit unfathomable evil. Anyone with any knowledge of history knows that’s just a fact – the 20th century is a perfect example of evil committed as our sacred duty since we were propagandized to be the world’s peacekeepers. I remember it well as I was all in on it.

    Yes, deeply ingrained presuppositions and binary thinking are almost impossible to overcome – https://crushlimbraw.blogspot.com/2020/02/ingrained-presuppositions-and-binary.html?m=0 – as it took me almost 20 years – and still ongoing – to overcome.
    After the first clue that my previous learning was almost all bullshit comes the next revelation –
    https://crushlimbraw.blogspot.com/2020/11/are-we-governed-by-humans.html?m=0 – are we governed by humans?
    I realize that for some of you folks, this will be a bridge too far – but recall that’s where Ron Unz started from – and only by relentless research did he arrive where he is today.
    Nothing comes easy.

    • Thanks: Iris
  59. anon[390] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    Many deaths result of medical, political murders.

  60. Ron Unz says:

    Incidentally, I should mention that I recently updated my eBook on the Covid epidemic, so those of you with older editions might want to download it again:

    https://www.unz.com/ebook/covid-catastrophe-ebook/

  61. anon[390] • Disclaimer says:

    From liars for the Shit State come lies, endless lies, from their asses lies.

    Trump wins with 85%.

  62. anon[109] • Disclaimer says:
    @Robert Dolan

    i didnt mean literally, i meant in a spiritual/mental sense.

  63. Mefobills says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Many of you will be well aware of the hard time I give Socialism and its misguided adherents.

    Lolbertarian retards will not even concede that there are three types of markets: Elastic, Inelastic, and Mixed. Anything other than elastic must be Socialist.

    Inelastic markets have to be owned by government, or regulated. This then delivers the lowest prices, by preventing monopoly. But, wait! Isn’t government regulation and owning some sectors of the economy Socialism!

    Simon Patten was tasked to explain what the American System of Economy was, which was the economy of the founders, and gained its moniker from Henry Clay. The country was getting rich behind tariff walls, and at the time economic orthodoxy was “British/Jewish.” American system type of economy recognizes market types, and does not shill for “free markets.” America got rich behind tariffs and trade barriers, not free trade. Free trade is an implanted memory.

    https://michael-hudson.com/2017/12/on-simon-patten/

    “Working beside his father,” observed Simon’s biographer Daniel Fox, “he had learned that poor land could be made productive by hard work and the application of scientific techniques, that these techniques enabled poor land to increase in fertility more rapidly than rich land, [and] that fertility was a function of the variety of crops produced on a piece of land.”

    This knowledge, Patten would soon discover, ran contrary to some of the central premises of classical economic theory—and therefore posed a challenge to the free-trade orthodoxy that flowed from it.

    Free market ideology of the LoL type cannot and does not recognize that Human innovation can increase productivity. Something like channeling state credit into research colleges is not part of their (((doctrine))). Something like using eminent domain to build railroads, so that goods can more efficiently get to market is impossible for elastic markets to accomplish.

    Free trade orthodoxy is closely related to neo-liberalism which in turn is an invention of our merchant (((friends))). It is Malthusian and always has diminishing returns in its models.

    Phenomena like birth control, crop diversification, technological advances, and the growth of world markets promised to propel mankind into an age of abundance. But only—as Patten would go on to argue—if developing countries, and especially the United States, unshackled themselves from British economic orthodoxy.

    The United States had a revolutionary war to unshackle itself from London finance capital. Lolbertarians are un-american, and mouthpieces for Jewish dialectic.

    He (Patten) believed that the development of American industry required jettisoning the free-trade theories that had lately taken root in England—and that justified American dependence on British manufacturing on the basis of Ricardian notions about economic efficiency and comparative advantage.

    Joseph Wharton demanded that the “fungus” of free trade economics be stamped out in the classrooms of his new school.

    “The prestige universities like Harvard and Yale were all pro-trade,” says economic historian Michael Hudson, a research professor of economics at the University of Missouri-Kansas City. “They were affiliated with the trading interests. And there really wasn’t any manufacturing industry, apart from Pennsylvania, to push its own interests.”

    • Replies: @Crush Limbraw
  64. Che Guava says:
    @Legba

    ‘Troll’ was meant to be ‘LOL’. With, not at.

  65. Eireannach says: • Website

    Read my lips: COVID was a fucking mild flu. It killed almost nobody. The real scandal was stripping billions of people of their basic freedoms and forcing billions to take a fucking lethal injection, one that has already killed several millions and ruined the health of hundreds of millions.

    • Agree: profnasty
  66. @Iris

    OK got it. You are reading the fellow against himself.

    He says:

    No virus medicine researcher ever would do this therefore it’s zoonotic.

    You read:

    No virus medicine researcher ever would do this therefore it’s a weapon.

    Clever. I like to do the same thing with Ron Unz. : )

    • Replies: @Iris
  67. Abbybwood says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    Kevin and Co.:

    Around February/March 2020 I SAW a video with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo being questioned about Covid and he said, “This is a live exercise.”

    Surely somebody out there can dig up this clip and confront Pompeo about it?

  68. @TKK

    I’m sick of name calling DemonRats and GOPhers crawling up everyone’s anal cavity promising to clean up all the Schitt in shitholes US cities and around the world.
    How many refugees, illegals and anchor babies is enough, 30-75-100-200 million?
    How many fentanyl crawlers will we tolerate or smash and grab, burn loot murder and rape hoodrats do we let go unpunished before vigilante patriots start taking law and order into their own hands?

    It’s obvious law enforcement has failed us, so has government and its CRT GlobalHomo armed forces.

    The push back is coming, it’s not a matter of if it will come, but when.

    • Agree: TKK
  69. Iris says:
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    No virus medicine researcher ever would do this therefore it’s a weapon.

    There are 3 possible origins for this virus: 1)Natural/Zoonotic, 2) Medical G0F, 3) Biowarfare GoF.

    Pr Drosten is saying,: no medical researcher would do medical Gain-of-Function this way, therefore this virus cannot have been produced as result of medical Gain-of-Function research, therefore cannot have leaked from the WIV.

    He refuses to comment on whether SARS-CoV-2 could have come out of biowarfare-related GoF manipulations, stating it is a matter to address to intelligence services, but affirming that in such case, the Wuhan Institute of Virology would have had nothing to do with it, since it is a “reputable academic” body.

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain
  70. profnasty says:

    Covid schmovid.
    Should I believe my hero, Unz, or my own lying eyes.
    There is no out of the ordinary virus. Same old same old. Flu kills. So does diabetes, heart attack, pneumonia, and motorcycle wrecks.
    1,000,000 dead? In a pig’s eye. My friend works in a large hospital. Nothing, aside from government meddling, went down.
    Nothing.
    I had it, my friends, hospital diagnosed, had it. No big deal. Flu.
    Nothing. Trump is impotent.

    • Agree: Voltara, peterAUS
  71. Corvinus says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    “The MSM lynch mob and their friends in the Justice Department are trying to sell the notion that the people who showed up in DC on 1/6/21 were treasonous “insurrectionists.””

    That is the reality. Have you read the work of Seth Abramson? Until you do, and offer substantive commentary that counters his work, all you are doing here is shilling.

    “Even Trump and his aides who may have conspired to try to seat alterate slates of electors in hopes of getting the election thrown to the House were presumably sincere in their belief that the election was rigged”

    Three hand-picked Trump officials—Ben Ginsberg, Republican attorney and election expert, Chris Stirewalt, former Fox News political analyst, Bill Stepien, 2020 Trump campaign official—testified under oath that the election was not stolen. Remember, Trump from the get-go said that he would win re-election no matter what—if he won, there was no or limited fraud; if he lost, there was malfeasance of epic proportions. This behavior is exactly the sort of lifelong narcissist who could convince himself of something favorable to him that is delusional.

    But Trump cannot claim “willful ignorance”; he cannot escape the establishment of criminal intent by deliberately keeping yourself ignorant of the truth of a given situation. The credible information Trump received from his hand-picked election team—the best advisers and data analysts money could buy—that a *reasonable person* in his position would trust directly told him he was going to lose and did lose. In response, Trump sought willful ignorance, and brought in Rudy Giuliani and Sydney Powell, two sycophants, to promote his “conspiracy”. We know Trump’s is clear: when he finds that someone is an obstacle to his schemes, he pushes them out, fires them, or seeks to intimidate them.

    Two other advisors, Trump lawyer Eric Hershman, said he never saw evidence that the “Dominion conspiracy” was real, and Matt Morgan, Trump campaign lawyer, said he found no legal challenges would change the results (Marc Short/Greg Jacobs agreed). Again, Trump selected these men.

    Stepien testified that from his standpoint Fox News had the best election-prediction mechanism of any network on Election Night and that he was extremely proud of FNC making the right call and making it first about Arizona. He also said that was no credble evidence of problems in vote counts in Arizona. Even Jared Kushner stated that Trump should not to go down the route he did. William Barr confirmed that “I didn’t want to be a part of it [Rudy’s claims]”, as they were “bullshit” and are one reason he resigned. Sidney Powell, when she was sued civilly for her absurd election-related claims, conceded (in writing) that no reasonable person could possibly have taken her post-election claims of election fraud as accurate. And yet, Trump unreasonably did.

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  72. Ron makes a decent argument that Covid was a bio attack on China. The Iranian theory is less convincing. Seems more likely the Iranian leadership caught the virus from their close interactions with China diplomats.

    https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/442501/Araqchi-Iran-China-utilizing-new-paths-to-reinvigorate-economic

    • Troll: mulga mumblebrain
  73. @Mefobills

    FYI – https://crushlimbraw.blogspot.com/2022/06/the-collapsing-tripod-vox-popoli.html?m=0 – a brief analysis of a linked longer history of ‘free trade’.
    As for me, it’s another of my past beliefs that are turning out to be not so true after all.

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  74. Hartmann says:

    @Kevin Barrett

    I’m glad you pressed RU a bit about the “unintended” part of his “unintended blowback” theory. But I think you let him off the hook a little too soon.

    Besides, if the bioweapon attack was engineered by a small group of neoconservative operatives, as both RU and you seem to think, and neoconservatives were eager to get rid of Trump, then why should we assume that “blowback” in the US would not be a part of their plan?

    Has RU given us any evidence at all that the US “blowback” was “unintended“?

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  75. Mefobills says:
    @Crush Limbraw

    Amazing!

    That Atlantic of all organizations is forced to come to grips with their ideological failures.

    Usually, people are so invested they cannot accept new information at variance with what they think they know. It takes some sort of shock to their system to relent.

    https://hajoonchang.net/

    Ha Joon is consonant with Asian thinking; which in turn has antecedents in America.

    https://hajoonchang.net/2002/06/24/history-debunks-the-free-trade-myth/

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2002/jun/24/globalisation

  76. @Corvinus

    Corvid: When machines count the votes, voters’ votes don’t count. Sure, Trump is a semi-controlled buffoon. However, it is highly probable that the vote was stolen and that he actually won the election. When there are two more than miserable candy-dates; even generally ignorant voters can discern which of the two is the bigger rat and the most owned.

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  77. Richard B says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    the demonrats had little or nothing to do with the 9/11 False Flag.

    the Neo-Con Zionist Jews who ran the show

    were all Bush43 regime republiscams.

    What difference does it make? Since everyone knows that
    The DNC + The RNC = The Jewish Party.

  78. Corvinus says:
    @emerging majority

    “When machines count the votes, voters’ votes don’t count.”

    Of course the votes count. That’s the process.

    “Sure, Trump is a semi-controlled buffoon.”

    Fully controlled. Remember, his son in law is Jewish. And Donald is a Zionist.

    “However, it is highly probable that the vote was stolen and that he actually won the election.”

    You mean improbable. Remember, Sydney Powell claimed she had proof that the U.S. Army seized servers in Germany the showed Trump votes were switched to Biden. Where is that evidence now? Furthermore, the Arizona audit showed that Biden won.

    “When there are two more than miserable candy-dates; even generally ignorant voters can discern which of the two is the bigger rat and the most owned.”

    You can’t. You’re a slave to confirmation bias.

  79. Durruti says:

    The Coup within the Coup!

    Imagine a congressional committee grilling Pompeo till he breaks down and confesses to reckless homicide in connection with the deaths of more than a million Americans and more than 15 million people worldwide! I guarantee that those hearings wouldn’t pull in a measly little audience half the size of the one that sits through Biden’s State of the Union speech.

    There are endless examples of the horrific Corruption of American politics.

    This from MSN – Mainstream News. Who do they wish to replace Biden with?

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/alleged-showers-with-my-dad-president-joe-biden-s-daughter-reportedly-writes-of-alleged-abuse-in-diary/ar-AAYCrGi?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=a0bea7fe10874d509f67a48018291b72

    The knockout blow (after much earlier peripheral damage), came on November 22, 1963.

  80. @Ron Unz/Kevin Barrett:

    Shall we cut to the chase? From my read of the interview, both of you are in agreement that the mass media is the primary problem. Media indeed is the stumbling block preventing the American public from getting off their collective butts and possibly even having a remotely conceivable chance of restoring our ruptured Republic.

    Interested?

    Just some 24 hours ago, sitting in a country-town bar and talking with a few farmers from perhaps a 40 mile radius; one of them pointed out that a youth of 16 who had taken the jab became seriously ill and is currently hospitalized, with very little chance of full recovery and possibly even worse. The farm-kid lives perhaps a half-hour’s drive from the narrator.

    In rural America, news travels fast among the many among the innumerable networks of common-sense folk. People know each other or know of them and tend to care at a deeply human level. My suspicion is that this phenomenon is true right across thinly populated rural areas. Human interest is writ large amongst country folk.

    Rural Americans crave real news and have largely lost faith towards the necktied, hairstyled presenters on the nightly national Boobtoob Noose. They don’t like liars and paid presstitutes.

    If there is one sector of the American public which is ready to rock n’ roll, it is the hayseeds and hillbillies and their small-town relatives and friends.

    So here’s my practical suggestion. Here in northwestern Minnesota, the largest “urban” center is a micro-metro called Bemidji. The city itself has a population considerably less than 20,000.However, as there are innumerable lakes in the area, the actual population within commuting distance is likely more than double that. Because it’s the major center in a huge trade-area, there probably are close to a hundred thousand who consider it as their “city”.

    As a recovering journalist, I’ve been apprised that their once daily paper had become bought out by the people who own the “Fargo Forum”, a stick-in-the-mud, rock no boats publication. Now coming out only twice a week, the “Pioneer” has devolved into little more than a laughing-stock. Very little actual local and regional news. Almost no actual journalists as staffers.

    Rural people still read newspapers, particularly when they cover news and events in the general area. AND they are hungry for journalism which tells it like their reporters see it—19th Century style—and are not shy about calling out politicians, police and local area movers and shakers.

    I’ve read here on U.R. that as a highly successful entrepreneurial software developer; Mr Unz has amassed a not insignificant fortune. The owner of this blog is hardly alone in possessing more resources than needed for daily expenses. There must be many thousands of Americans who have done well economically and at the same time are concerned deeply about the fate of our country.

    Consider a town like Bemidji, Minnesota, with its’ current poor excuse for a real newspaper. An investment of considerably less than ten million could establish a weekly which would rapidly develop a huge audience.

    I know that because I’ve been there and done that, albeit some decades ago when America still could somewhat call itself a free-country.

    Highly talented and completely frustrated journalists and would-be’s would jump at an opportunity to be part of an operation which would be dedicated to truth, honor and justice; as well as maintaining a virtually untrammeled forum for anyone with a gripe or an idea.

    Country folk all across the fruited plain, would rapidly rally to publications based in smallish regional centers which harken to the common-sense values shared by a massive majority of rural Americans.

    How about it, Ron and Kevin? If America is to be recovered, it will not happen with the prostiticians in the Di\$trict of Corruption…or in the vast majority of state capitals.

    Suburbs are a hopeless cause, as the rat-race is virtually all-encompassing. Real Americans still exist. Most of us live in places where people are not all crowded together and have little or no time for each other. Country folk still care.

    This plan is totally practical and has a very good chance of working. A thoroughly non-rural American, Black Panther Party spokesman, Eldridge Cleaver, famously remarked that “if you are not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem”.

    There’s a lot of chatter on U.R., but very few tangible solutions have been suggested. I await responses from the addressees of this appeal and welcome any and all positive suggestions. -Emerging Majority

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  81. @Corvinus

    So how large is your mule team, Covidus?

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  82. @Sollipsist

    Because, if they did, the ENTIRE Western MSM sewer would rise as one to not just deny and lie, as their careers demand, but spew even more hate-crazed abuse. The Chinese and Iranians know what the USA is.

  83. @emerging majority

    He doesn’t know. His halter stops him turning around to see, and he can’t count.

  84. Avianthro says:

    Unfortunately, all the evidence for Unz’s theory is still only circumstantial. Admittedly, it does seem like fairly strong circumstantial evidence, especially in how it all fits together and so it has a ring of truth to it, BUT it’s not strong enough to bring a case to court and expect a conviction. What would convince me is if genetic analysis showed that the virus that hit Wuhan had special features making it more dangerous for the local population than it would be for Americans, and especially if the virus that hit Iran had special features suited to attacking that local population, and that were not found in the Wuhan virus. Otherwise folks, it would seem that we have only some “dancing Israelis”…not enough to go to court although it is enough to convince at least some of us out here that covid was probably the work of the same neocon mindset that brought us 911 and that Trump failed to deliver on uprooting the deep state, and instead just gave it even freer reign. Ah well, how could one really blame an idiot (except for his brilliance as a conman) like Trump?

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  85. ARepli says:

    This new angle of defending the treasonous antics of legion of white trash with the argument that Dear Leader’s temper tantrum about losing and his leveraging of all the powers of his office to overturn an election result rejecting that he is the greatest man who ever lived who single-handedly defines the one true America, are justifiable antics because, however wrong Dear Leader may be, he actually believes his rhetoric, and thus his vast cadre of totally indoctrinated imbecile reactionaries are off the hook because they were just following orders, sets a new low for conservatism, and makes anal fisting seem like a natural zesty enterprise by comparison.

    When American conservatism no longer believes in American democracy, but instead in a the megalomaniacal ravings of a dedicated Orgy-Island pedo who parades his own children as lust objects and brags far and wide about being a welcher, it’s American conservatism, not democracy, that has died leaving the nation with spoiled meat in the place of the Republican party.

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  86. @ARepli

    If the Repooplikkans foster spoiled meat, such as Trump’s former precedent of vice; then the Democraps feature festering maggots such as Mayor Willie Brown’s favorite lap-dancer and total turds such as Chuck Schumer. Oops, forgot to mention the turd in line, Nancy, oh how fancy. However did she amass those millions. She actually seems to be in a contest with McConnell of the Grand Old Poseurs.

    Following the KISS principle and keeping it simple, stoopid; the duopoly, peas in a pod parties are totally beholden to the Extreme Courtesans and their dicktatorial “Citizens United” ‘ruling’. In other words, dirty big money rules and taking (s)elections seriously is strictly for fools.

  87. Ron Unz says:
    @Hartmann

    I’m glad you pressed RU a bit about the “unintended” part of his “unintended blowback” theory. But I think you let him off the hook a little too soon….Has RU given us any evidence at all that the US “blowback” was “unintended“?

    Personally, I’m quite skeptical and don’t see any solid supporting evidence. But it’s not my main issue, and if you or others want to believe one of the goals was ensuring Trump’s defeat in 2020, I won’t dispute your position.

    My central argument is that the Covid outbreak was an American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran) almost certainly by the Deep State Neocons, and everything else is much more speculative.

  88. @Corvinus

    Corvanus (or the ‘anus’, as he’s unaffectionately known by the UR readers), chimes in with this remark about the 2020 Presidential election:

    Of course the votes count. That’s the process.

    The stand-out anomaly is the fact that Biden got significantly MORE votes than the charismatic Obama did in either the 2008 or 2012 election victories.
    In fact, MORE THAN ANY PRESIDENT IN HISTORY – and by a wide margin.

    Added to that was Obama’s slogan of ‘Hope and Change’.

    Biden ran on nothing. He’s a dullard, uninspiring, a demented [and KNOWN] puppet of the establishment to boot.
    Sure, Obama turned out to be an establishment puppet in the end as well but when he was elected in 2008 this wasn’t an established fact and many held out hope for the prospect of actual hope and change.

    Importantly, Obama appealed to a variety of demographics whereas Biden appealed then, as now, to NO ONE.
    Biden is not liked by his own demographic. In fact, I doubt that he’s even liked within his OWN family.

  89. Ron Unz says:
    @Avianthro

    Unfortunately, all the evidence for Unz’s theory is still only circumstantial. Admittedly, it does seem like fairly strong circumstantial evidence, especially in how it all fits together and so it has a ring of truth to it, BUT it’s not strong enough to bring a case to court and expect a conviction.

    I’d mostly agree with you that the evidence is overwhelmingly circumstantial, but I think there’s one important exception. In the “second week of November” the DIA produced a secret intelligence report warning of a potentially “cataclysmic” disease outbreak taking place in Wuhan, and distributed it to our top government officials and NATO allies plus Israel.

    But it’s unlikely that Patient Zero was even infected at that point, clearly demonstrating foreknowledge among at least some elements of the American national security establishment, evidence strong enough for an indictment:



    Video Link

    And tracing down the source of the DIA’s information would easily allow a court to determine who in the American government was responsible for the outbreak.

    If a man takes out a huge insurance policy on his wife and she soon dies in a random street killing, the police would be extremely suspicious. If the man had also recently told his mistress he’d soon be free to marry her, the police would surely arrest him.

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  90. Corvinus says:
    @emerging majority

    “Media indeed is the stumbling block preventing the American public from getting off their collective butts and possibly even having a remotely conceivable chance of restoring our ruptured Republic.“

    The stumbling block is confirmation bias, ma’am.

    “Rural Americans crave real news”

    What constitutes “real news”? What metrics are involved. And having kinfolk who live in rural communities, I can safely say they are consumers of news from traditional and alternative sources, and keep abreast of situations through common sense, discussion of common values, and by incorporating what they read and saw in the media.

    Now I do share your concern that local newspapers are becoming a relic, and that is because of the consolidation of media companies.

    “when America still could somewhat call itself a free-country”

    Not this tired trope. But, for the sake of engaging in dialectic conversation, in what specific ways is America not a “free country” from your perspective?

    “Real Americans still exist“

    One of your favorite go to fallacies, the No True Scotsman.

    “Suburbs are a hopeless cause”

    So you’re willing to let tens of millions of white people die on the vine without even attempting to save them from elites, Jews, and their mystery meat pets? That’s clearly anti-white policy.

    “I await responses from the addressees of this appeal and welcome any and all positive suggestions“

    Start a publication in your hometown. Cover stories objectively—multiple sources from a wide range of ideologies.
    Be honest in your conclusions rather than be a slave to confirmation bias.

  91. My hometown already has a publication, a weekly in a demographically challenged neighborhood. Regional centers would reach far more readers.

    As for your statement (presumably the suburban majority of Americans) they exist in what can objectively be considered as anti-communities. Essentially, they are unreachable, as the older ones are stuck on boobtoob noose presenters and the kidz are ensorcelled within the gamer world. Contemporary suburban life is basically a coping mechanism. Long-term it is not viable, as it’s base is materialistic and consumerist, with major problems of waste of food, in particular. Objectively, it can be described as “never-never-land”. No there there.

    “Mystery meat pets”? “Anti white”? Off the rails a bit, eh? “Confirmation bias”? I was confirmed as a Lootern at 14 and happened to read Leviticus at 16 and promptly gave up on that entire dog and pony show.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  92. Corvinus says:
    @emerging majority

    “My hometown already has a publication, a weekly in a demographically challenged neighborhood.”

    Code for where white people are in the minority.

    “As for your statement (presumably the suburban majority of Americans) they exist in what can objectively be considered as anti-communities.”

    Subjective, as in you have an opinion about the matter. You personally disagree with how suburbanite live and think, so you create this position that is rather extreme in nature and refer to it as “truth”. So when you say that tens of millions of WHITE suburbanites are “anti-communities” and “unreachable”, how do expect them to join your side to remove your enemy, however you define it?

    Speaking of which, I see you completely avoided my inquiries. What is “real news”? What is a “real American”? Why is America no longer a “free country”?

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  93. @Truth Vigilante

    Let’s accept, for the sake of argument, this high-end figure of 170k lockdown deaths in the US in 2020-2021. Since there were at least 1.3 million total excess deaths (the real figure is probably above 1.5 million) what you’re saying is that there were over 1.1 million COVID deaths and 170k lockdown deaths.

    I wouldn’t disagree with that. In fact, I wouldn’t even be surprised if we need to throw in an additional 130k vaccine deaths.

    That would still give us a million COVID deaths. Even if 10% wouldn’t have happened except for bad medical treatment, we’re still pretty close to a million. So like I said, anybody who denies that this bioweapon virus is a likely cause of those deaths either isn’t engaging very well with reality, or is too lazy or innumerate to do the math.

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  94. @Corvinus

    “Demographically challenged” has nothing to do with minorities in the population—it’s simply that those with the get up and go have got up and gone for the edjumacasion and the “good jobs” as part of the megalopolitan rat-race. Pity, that.

    Sub-urbanites are neither street-wise urbanites or common-sensical rural or small-town folk.

    The definition of “real news” is quite simple: It’s actually news about those events which directly affect people’s day to day lives. Managed media misinformation is anything but real…it is Bernaysian programming.

    If you are yet to figure out why America is no longer a free country, I cannot possibly help you. Perhaps you are one of those sub-urbanites and simply do not have a clue.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  95. Corvinus says:
    @emerging majority

    Demographically challenged” has nothing to do with minorities in the population—it’s simply that those with the get up and go have got up and gone for the edjumacasion and the “good jobs” as part of the megalopolitan rat-race. Pity, that.”

    Not really a pity, just a decision made by tens of millions of Americans. It’s a lifestyle you don’t prefer. Which in the overall scheme of things, is your opinion.

    “Sub-urbanites are neither street-wise urbanites or common-sensical rural or small-town folk.”

    Yet another assertion you made without any backing. That’s your m.o. around these parts.

    “The definition of “real news” is quite simple: It’s actually news about those events which directly affect people’s day to day lives.”

    Which essentially takes place in today’s media.

    “Managed media misinformation is anything but real…it is Bernaysian programming.”

    What exactly is “managed media misinformation”? Do you have specific examples? How do you know for certain?

    “If you are yet to figure out why America is no longer a free country, I cannot possibly help you.”

    Nope. Doesn’t work that way. You as a “recovering newspaper man” knows better. Assertions require evidence. Back it up. Exactly how are we “no longer free”?

    “Perhaps you are one of those sub-urbanites and simply do not have a clue.”

    And what makes YOU have a “clue” compared to other Americans? Do tell.

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  96. IreneAthena says: • Website
    @Truth Vigilante

    Truth Vigilante, there are three statistical balls being juggled. In his response to this comment of yours, I notice Kevin Barrett is willing to accept “for the sake of argument” that 170,000 of the 1.3 – 1.5 million excess deaths were caused by lockdowns and another “130,000” were deaths-by-mRNA-shot.

    But the only concession Kevin is willing to make about the “deaths-by-Covid” “1 million” third juggling ball is… oh… maybe “10%” of that number were caused by inappropriate medical treatment. I don’t know if Kevin Barrett would be willing “to make concessions” that would whittle away (or bite huge truth-revealing chunks out of) that “1 million” number: e.g., number of false positives (by design) from PCR tests run at ridiculously high number of cycles; hospitals being monetarily incentivized to misdiagnose deaths as Covid19 deaths.

    I don’t know the motivation of every person who insists on minimizing the significance/size of juggling balls #1 and #2 and
    maximizing the significance of ball #3. But I do know that there is a class action suit being planned against the pandemic bad actors (cross-contamination with financial crises bad actors) and those bad actors have retained lawyers of their own. Some of their reps must be active in message boards discussions like these.

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  97. @Corvinus

    Obviously, you sport an advanced degree in sophistry.

    In a deeply devolutionary culture, you have the chutzpah to demand that I explain to you any particularities of managed media misinformation and the soft serfdom endured by the majority of “citizens” of this alleged “democracy” (ruptured republic).

    After the 911 Inside Job and its intended crackdown on rights of the American people through agencies like the “Buro des Heimats Sicherheit” (Department of Homeland Security) as contractually created for the insiders by former Stasi chief, Markus Wolff; you have the unmitigated gall to for one single moment assert that this most thoroughly propagandized culture is anything but a velvet gloves police-state.

    It’s probable that a majority of those tens of millions of Americans had little or no choice in ultimately acceding to life in the burbs. Most of them were born in those circumcisions and stances and know not of more engaging and spiritually rewarding lives.

    In 1959 my parents had no choice but to join the herd as there literally were no jobs available to them in our small towns and countryside.

    There was a deliberate policy of even the heads of the Department of Agriculture to, in the words of Earl Butz, to “get big or get out”. By deliberate policy decisions, those administrative bureaucrats saw to it that rural culture would be economically destroyed.

    As I look out the window to the east, a Rainbow appears after the blessings of unexpected rain in a year when various administrative decisions have exacerbated global warming to the point where half the country right now is suffering from extreme drought conditions.

    Not that rainbows do not appear in the urbs, but few in those places have a clue as to reading the signs. That is my response to your final sentence. It was not calculated, rather the product of inductive logic.

    There is meaning in life and purpose. Your sophistry appears to be quite immune to holistic apperception.

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  98. IreneAthena says: • Website
    @IreneAthena

    There is absolutely no way that any sane, numerate person who examines the numbers could possibly blame this massive crash in life expectancy on anything other than COVID. #18 Kevin Barrett

    So like I said, anybody who denies that this bioweapon virus is a likely cause of those deaths either isn’t engaging very well with reality, or is too lazy or innumerate to do the math. #95 Kevin Barrett

    That’s a subtle change in Kevin’s position: “on anything other than Covid” in #18, to the much less emphatic “is a likely cause” in #95. Kevin may not have intentionally moved the goalposts here; his subtle change in wording may reflect a change in Kevin’s subconscious understanding of the larger scope of the problem, wrought by his exposure to arguments contra his #18.

    They’re all likely contributors to the excess deaths. Denying that any of them causes death is (1) dishonoring those who have lost their lives or loved ones due to the covid19 bioweapon or the withholding of appropriate medical care for C19/administration of lethal responses to c19 including harmful responses like ventilation, livelihood/mental-health-destroying lockdowns (2) dishonoring those who have suffered mRNA shot sequelae (3) amplifying the “get your boosters” and “infants/children need c19 shots” propaganda, thus endangering potential victims of those shots (4) weakens the legal case that needs to be built against those who in so many ways deliberately created an environment causing the deaths in (1), (2) and (3).

  99. Corvinus says:
    @emerging majority

    “Obviously, you sport an advanced degree in sophistry.”

    And now we can add projection to your fallacy registry.

    “In a deeply devolutionary culture, you have the chutzpah to demand that I explain to you any particularities of managed media misinformation and the soft serfdom endured by the majority of “citizens” of this alleged “democracy” (ruptured republic).”

    You rely on a false premise and a wild generalization as your basis for “fact”.

    “After the 911 Inside Job and its intended crackdown on rights of the American people through agencies like the “Buro des Heimats Sicherheit” (Department of Homeland Security) as contractually created for the insiders by former Stasi chief, Markus Wolff; you have the unmitigated gall to for one single moment assert that this most thoroughly propagandized culture is anything but a velvet gloves police-state.”

    And now more irrationality.

    “It’s probable that a majority of those tens of millions of Americans had little or no choice in ultimately acceding to life in the burbs. Most of them were born in those circumcisions and stances and know not of more engaging and spiritually rewarding lives.”

    It’s probable that the majority of these people made their own decisions about life and career through free will, and that they enjoy fulfilling lives in ways you simply cannot comprehend.

    “In 1959 my parents had no choice but to join the herd as there literally were no jobs available to them in our small towns and countryside.”

    Of course they had a choice. One that you for a number of reasons have resentment and hostility toward.

    “As I look out the window to the east, a Rainbow appears after the blessings of unexpected rain in a year when various administrative decisions have exacerbated global warming to the point where half the country right now is suffering from extreme drought conditions.”

    Ok, now you are making sense, and your statement is something I agree with.

    “Not that rainbows do not appear in the urbs, but few in those places have a clue as to reading the signs.”

    Again, how do YOU know for certain? What gives YOU this unique insight that everyone else but you are delusional sophists?

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  100. IreneAthena says: • Website
    @Nancy

    Thank you. “…seems aimed primarily at the first world.” The third world has had more experience being taken advantage of this way, so they may be more wary. Nevertheless, non-white losses were high in, for example, Indian provinces (other than Uttar Pradesh) where use of Ivermectin as C19 treatment was suppressed.

  101. @Corvinus

    Oh, you like rainbows. That’s nice.

    You exemplify sophism and are laden with solecisms. You debate for the sake of argumentation. When the SHTF, likely enough beginning this fall, you will stand with Aethelred the Unready.

    My feelings toward sub-urbanites are not hostile, but full of pity, as among other factors, I have people in those places and was obliged to live in such circumstances for almost exactly a year. Thus, I do possess some direct insights.

    When I ask rural folks, including some who cling to their jobs for the money but hate the rat-race, if there is any common sense in the Sitties (a megalopolitan majority make their living on their asses); approximately half of them laugh out loud. The others either tell me a sad tale about an old classmate who went for the Big Brass Ring and have lost touch with natural reality, OR they simply shake their heads.

    During my younger years I lived in Minneapolis, St. Louis, Newark, Brooklyn Heights, South St. Paul, San Francisco and Los Angeles…and that was when there weren’t numerous strung-out homeless types shitting on the streets and dumping their needles haphazardly. The Burbies have bits of greenery in their scenery and unthinkingly contract with chemical warfare specialists to kill off the dandelions on their oh, so green, constantly riding-mower manicured lawns. Insanity writ large as their engorged consumption habits also include a waste-stream which is almost inconceivable.

    They made choices all right. They got sucked in by “higher education” and nice soft jobs and shop till you drop, while needing to get everything done yesterday.

    Little wonder that the thrice-jabbed Murrikkkan is so pitied by rural folk.

    I was living in a fourth-tier, middle-middleclass burb when the George Floyd fiasco came down. BLM, founded and sponsored by George Soros and Antifa and their Neo-Bolshevik/neo-fascism destroyed scores of independent businesses while the Democrat mayors and governor stood around with their thumbs up their asses. On the other side of the duopoly, the Trumping elephant did essentially nothing either.

    You wanna make an ongoing issue about the looming death of normalcy; I’ve got a lot more to say.

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  102. @Kevin Barrett

    You write:

    Since there were at least 1.3 million total excess deaths (the real figure is probably above 1.5 million) what you’re saying is that there were over 1.1 million COVID deaths and 170k lockdown deaths.

    No, I’m not saying that.

    What I am saying is that, if there were 1.1 million excess deaths, they died of SOMETHING.

    I don’t know definitively what the break up is of ‘who died from what’ amongst that 1.1 million.
    But NOR DO YOU Kevin.

    You’re just taking the word of the CDC that they were ALL Covid deaths. After all, there were NEXT TO NO AUTOPSIES done so we can’t say for certain how they died.

    What we can say for CERTAIN is that anyone who died (of whatever cause), who had tested positive to Covid in the preceding 28 days (or two months – or whatever arbitrary time period was selected in that jurisdiction), was then recorded as a Covid death.

    And we also KNOW FOR CERTAIN that PCR tests run at high Cycle Thresholds (CT’s) of 35-40 (which they all were), produce mostly FALSE POSITIVES.

    I mean we KNOW THAT because individuals like Nobel Laureate Kary Mullis told us so – before the Zio cabal murdered him.

    In other words, most individuals that were recorded as Covid deaths because they’d produced a positive PCR test, NEVER EVEN HAD COVID.

    We know that all sorts of CASH INCENTIVES were given to hospitals to classify patients as having Covid (\$13K bonus) or triple that if placed on a ventilator (\$39K) which more often than not killed them.

    What about payments to families that said their loved ones died from Covid (the article below is titled ‘FEMA wants to give families up to \$9,000 for COVID funerals… ‘ ):

    https://www.gpb.org/news/2021/12/26/fema-wants-give-families-9000-for-covid-funerals-many-dont-apply

    Kevin, even Blind Freddie can see that the PTB went out of their way to GOOSE UP THE COVID MORTALITY RATE.

    Yet, for some unexplained reason, you and Ron Unz can’t see it.

    We know that there were people in officialdom with a conscience in Portugal who had the guts to more carefully examine the alleged C0vid mortality stats (article titled ‘Court rules only 152 died of COVID-19 in Portugal, not 17,000’):

    https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-07-02-portuguese-court-rules-152-died-covid.html

    We know a similar thing occurred in Italy where the government massively reduced the original Covid death statistics, whereby those that died of Covid alone were found to be a small fraction of the original declared figures.

    Kevin, as you well know, the U.S government and its bureaucracies lied to us about WMD’s in Iraq, they lied about the JFK coup d’etat, The Gulf of Tonkin incident, 9/11 and much more, YET SOMEHOW we’re supposed to believe that the corrupt CDC all of a sudden has had a moral epiphany [as you and Ron Unz believe], and that they’re now telling us the truth ?

    That strains credulity.

    The fact is, the number of Covid deaths is GREATER post-vaccine than prior to it.

    Kevin, I ask you, HOW CAN THAT BE when one considers that the more virulent and [allegedly] lethal strain of Covid was around in 2020 whereas the less lethal Delta and common cold equivalent Omicron strains circulated thereafter ?

    Just think about that Kevin.

    Absent the experimental mRNA gene therapies that masquerade as Covid vaccines, there should have been LESS DEATHS when the less lethal Covid variants were circulating.

    I’m in Australia and the CUMULATIVE TOTAL of Covid deaths up to mid-2021* was around 900.

    (*I purposely chose mid-2021 because our vaxx rollout was later than in the U.S and it wasn’t until the latter half of that year that a majority of Australians submitted to the toxic clot shots).

    Well, let’s look at the stats for Australia now:

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/australia/

    That’s right Kevin.

    The alleged Covid mortality in Australia has increased BY A FACTOR OF TEN post ‘vaccine’ rollout.

    Can you read the tea leaves Kevin ? The ‘vaccines’ are KILLING AUSSIES and no doubt are doing likewise around the world.
    Be honest Kevin, did you hear of even a SINGLE CASE of young people dropping dead in 2020 (prior to the ‘vaccine’ rollout) from myocarditis or pericarditis ?
    Did you hear of even a handful of individuals developing clots from the Covid strain circulating in 2020 and dropping dead ?

    Let’s face it, THE DELUGE of such incidents being reported happened post vaxx rollout.
    Coincidence ?

    SUMMARY: The link I sent you previously said that Lockdowns had killed 170,000 PLUS in the U.S.
    (ie: 170,000 is a baseline figure. It could’ve been 200,000 or it could have been perhaps 300,000).

    We KNOW with a reasonable degree of accuracy that Midazolam related deaths in the U.K (ie: elderly nursing home patients that were forcibly euthanased) is in the tens of thousands – just ask your mate and mine the Irishman Richie Allen and he’ll fill you in on that.

    Scale that up for the population difference in the U.S and that entails that perhaps HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS were euthanased likewise in the U.S.

    Add in the deaths due to administration of Remdesivir and those that died unnecessarily from VILI (Ventilator Induced Lung Injuries), and we could well have a couple hundred thousand more.

    Add in several hundred thousand from the Deaths of Despair (suicides well up, opioid and substance abuse related deaths well up, elderly people in nursing homes that died from ‘isolation’ who willed themselves to death as friends and family were not allowed to visit them for over a year etc), and your excess deaths stat is explained.

  103. @Truth Vigilante

    How can you make so much sense re. CoViD19, and be so stupid in regard to anthropogenic climate destabilisation? You left out the vicious and deranged suppression of effective medications like IVM and HCQ, a major crime that one day must be punished.

  104. Corvinus says:
    @emerging majority

    “When the SHTF, likely enough beginning this fall, you will stand with Aethelred the Unready.”

    I’ve been hearing this for the past 50 years. You are adverse to suburban living. Fine. But normal people on this fine opinion webzine clearly witness your hostility toward them. Your direct insights are merely one or two statement opinions—nothing more, nothing less. When asked to provide clarification, you punt.

    “When I ask rural folks, including some who cling to their jobs for the money but hate the rat-race, if there is any common sense in the Sitties (a megalopolitan majority make their living on their asses); approximately half of them laugh out loud. The others either tell me a sad tale about an old classmate who went for the Big Brass Ring and have lost touch with natural reality, OR they simply shake their heads.”

    And when I ask rural folks that same question, a few shake their heads in disgust, but most provide stories about visiting their loved ones whom they are proud of. It’s a matter of personal perspective. Your description of the city and the suburbs and all of its fixings are wild generalizations.

    Why is your “insight” more credible than everyone else?

    “BLM, founded and sponsored by George Soros and Antifa and their Neo-Bolshevik/neo-fascism…”

    This is where you go off the rails. Again, if you are going to make a charge, then back it up with evidence. That’s what you would do as a newspaper man when writing a story.

    “You wanna make an ongoing issue about the looming death of normalcy; I’ve got a lot more to say.”

    Again, how do YOU know for certain? What gives YOU this unique insight that everyone else but you are delusional sophists?

  105. Being technologically challenged, I do not maintain mountains of “evidence” when it comes to creeps like Our Little Georgie of Our \$orrows. Just in case you are up to having your delusions challenged, do a bit of research yourself. It was almost two years ago when I came across research that proved to my satisfaction that he was the originator of BLM and has financed it from the onset.

    As a sophist, you continually demand that your interlocutor reply to your baseless accusations. I doubt that you have verbal intercourse with rural folks. Not your style. Certainly, people love their families and friends and generally do not put them in uncomfortable situations. But it is high time that we rid ourselves of our delusions and take a look at what the economic prognosticators have to say about the stock market, gas and diesel prices and massive medical malpractice with the Covid jabs.

    Play the Pollyanna role if you like. You crave normalcy. It simply ain’t gonna happen no more.

    “Normal people on this fine webzine”. You and exactly who else? You are talking out of your nether regions as per usual. A defense of normalcy is like standing strong on the Maginot Line.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  106. IreneAthena says: • Website
    @Truth Vigilante

    {To: City Mouse vs. Country Mouse, I and my aching scrolling thumb wonder if either one or both of you intend to make it hard to notice Truth Vigilante’s response to the author.}

  107. Corvinus says:
    @emerging majority

    “Being technologically challenged, I do not maintain mountains of “evidence” when it comes to creeps like Our Little Georgie of Our \$orrows.”

    Lol, you relentlessly tell me I’m a sophist. I confront you to show proof, which is standard in discourse, and then you give me this excuse.

    “It was almost two years ago when I came across research that proved to my satisfaction that he was the originator of BLM and has financed it from the onset.”

    I’m sure you did find information that confirmed to your narrative. It disc t mean it was factual or accurate or “right”.

    “As a sophist, you continually demand that your interlocutor reply to your baseless accusations.”

    Now you’re back to projection. It’s really easy to predict your use of fallacies.

    “I doubt that you have verbal intercourse with rural folks. Not your style.”

    I have considerable family and friends in flyover country, son.

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  108. Corvinus says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    “After all, there were NEXT TO NO AUTOPSIES done so we can’t say for certain how they died”

    Actually, we do know.

    https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/lung-autopsies-covid-19-patients-reveal-treatment-clues

    “What we can say for CERTAIN is that anyone who died (of whatever cause), who had tested positive to Covid in the preceding 28 days (or two months – or whatever arbitrary time period was selected in that jurisdiction), was then recorded as a Covid death.”

    No, it was recorded as a (cause of death), with complications related to COVID.

    “I mean we KNOW THAT because individuals like Nobel Laureate Kary Mullis told us so – before the Zio cabal murdered him”

    You’re going to have to substantiate that claim with proof. Assertion is not truth, ma’am.

    “We know that all sorts of CASH INCENTIVES were given to hospitals to classify patients as having Covid (\$13K bonus) or triple that if placed on a ventilator (\$39K) which more often than not killed them”

    Another assertion. Please specify which programs were involved.

    “Absent the experimental mRNA gene therapies that masquerade as Covid vaccines, there should have been LESS DEATHS when the less lethal Covid variants were circulating.”

    How are you certain?

    “Kevin, as you well know, the U.S government and its bureaucracies lied to us”

    Absolutely. Our government has lied to the American people about a number of things. But that doesn’t mean it lies about EVERYTHING, or ALMOST everything. That strain credulity. And, of course, you haven’t been necessarily forthright yourself. You have your own agenda and propaganda to promote.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  109. @Corvinus

    Corvanus questions that hospitals got \$13K for everyone admitted as a Covid patient and \$39K for those put on a ventilator.

    These facts are WELL DOCUMENTED and links have been posted in UR threads on numerous occasions by other contributors in the UR commentariat to that end.

    Corvanus questions my assertion that there would be LESS deaths from Covid when the less lethal variants were circulating as opposed to the initial strain from 2020.

    Corvanus, what don’t you understand about the words ‘LESS LETHAL’ ?
    Your Big Pharma benefactors, Fauci, the WHO and the CDC themselves have said that the Delta and Omicron variants, although more contagious, were far LESS LETHAL.

    You also write:

    You have your own agenda and propaganda to promote.

    Unlike you, who take every opportunity to act as apologist for Zio malfeasance, I do not propagandise.
    I search out the facts from objective sources and post my findings for UR readers to peruse.

    Every snippet of info I post is done in good faith – meaning I believed it to be accurate to the best of my knowledge at time of posting.
    And because I’m pedantic about crossing my t’s and dotting my i’s, said info is almost invariably spot on.
    You, on the other hand, do everything you do with MALICE AFORETHOUGHT.
    Your intention from the start is to be Deceitful, Dishonest and Dishonourable, and in that endeavour you have succeeded spectacularly.
    Your controllers in Herzliya in Occupied Palestine are proud of your disinformation efforts.

    As for the ‘agenda’ part, I confess that I do have one.

    It is to mercilessly hound you and your Talmudic ilk, and expose that you’re a SHAMELESS LIAR – not that others in the UR commentariat haven’t already done so on countless occasions and done a much better job of it.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  110. @Corvinus

    Corvidious: Curious is it not that you refer to rural America as “flyover country”. That geste de Mal did not strike me as irony…indicative of a high probability that you are, indeed a coaster, with the chutzpah and arrogance to put proof to the pudding. You look down on country folk as one who has scaled the scrotum-pole of the bitch goddess success.

    “Son”, eh. Condescending attitude, typical of over miseducated urbanite toffs…one of an aristocracy of dissolute dunces. As a member of the small but distinctive War-Baby generation I find your attitudes towards your probable elder as nothing more than mordantly amusing.

    As a rule even towering intellects are frequently and firmly planted on quivering sitzfleisch rather than being grounded in a healthy relationship with the natural world. Your tremulous tower gang a bit askew, with a foundation even more tenuous than that of the one in Pisa.

    So babble on with your pilpul theatrics.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  111. Corvinus says:
    @emerging majority

    Your grandstanding knows no bounds. Pilpul, lol. Your bitterness is a tour de force in reactionary thinking.

    Again, what gives YOU this unique insight that everyone else but you are delusional sophists?

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  112. @Corvinus

    Silly goose. You remind me of an old, now deceased friend, who was a Marxist, Trotskyite, Darwinist, materialist, yada, yada who constantly accused me of being a Gnostic…same arguments as yours.

    Old Sophists too, never die, they just reincarnate like my friend did. In his immediate past life he was a devout Bolshevik of Khazarian Talmudist ancestry.

    Materialism is so stoopid…but also ineffably arrogant on the part of its adherents.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  113. Corvinus says:
    @emerging majority

    “Silly goose. You remind me of an old, now deceased friend, who was a Marxist, Trotskyite, Darwinist, materialist, yada, yada who constantly accused me of being a Gnostic…same arguments as yours.”

    You erected a strawman, and are using an Alinsky tactic by categorizing falsely anyone who challenges you intellectually as a sophist. That’s all you got.

    “Materialism is so stoopid…but also ineffably arrogant on the part of its adherents“

    In your opinion. Again, what gives YOU this unique insight that everyone else but you are delusional sophists?

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  114. Corvinus says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    “Corvanus questions that hospitals got \$13K for everyone admitted as a Covid patient and \$39K for those put on a ventilator.”

    Let’s offer context rather than hyperbole.

    Medicare says it does not make standard, one-size-fits-all payments to hospitals for patients admitted with COVID-19 diagnoses and placed on ventilators. The \$13,000 and \$39,000 figures appear to be based on generic industry estimates for admitting and treating patients with similar conditions.

    Whether hospitals are paid by Medicare for care of a COVID-19 patient would depend on whether that patient was covered by Medicare insurance. CMS also told us there is no set or predetermined amount paid to hospitals for diagnosing and treating COVID-19 patients, and the amounts would depend on a variety of factors driven by the needs of each patient. Pay-outs would also depend on the variance of the costs of medical care in different regions.

    Hospitals and health systems are eligible to receive higher Medicare payments for complex COVID-19-related treatment under the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act (CARES Act), including a Medicare add-on payment of 20% for both rural and urban inpatient hospital COVID-19 patients, according to the American Hospital Association (AHA). The CARES Act was signed into law by former President Donald Trump on March 27, 2020. 

    They do get a bump in payment from Medicare if a patient has a diagnosis of COVID-19 listed on the bill, This is meant to recognize the additional costs associated with caring for COVID positive patients – costs such as additional PPE to protect staff and prevent spread, additional costs in cleaning and taking special precautions with all devices and materials moving in and out of the patient’s room, and additional costs in caring for the patient (such as therapeutics).

    So, where is your specific evidence regarding hospitals patently “cooking the books”?

    “Corvanus questions my assertion that there would be LESS deaths from Covid when the less lethal variants were circulating as opposed to the initial strain from 2020.”

    No, I am asking how certain are you that the experimental mRNA gene therapies masquerade as Covid vaccines. Sources, please.

    “Unlike you, who take every opportunity to act as apologist for Zio malfeasance, I do not propagandise.”

    Of course you do propagandize. In your world, anyone who opposes your line of thinking is a Jew or a Zionist apologist.

    
“I search out the facts from objective sources and post my findings for UR readers to peruse.”

    What you do is find information that confirms to a prescribed narrative. It’s call confirmation bias.

    “Every snippet of info I post is done in good faith – meaning I believed it to be accurate to the best of my knowledge at time of posting.
And because I’m pedantic about crossing my t’s and dotting my i’s, said info is almost invariably spot on.”

    In your opinion.

    

“Your intention from the start is to be Deceitful, Dishonest and Dishonourable, and in that endeavour you have succeeded spectacularly.
Your controllers in Herzliya in Occupied Palestine are proud of your disinformation efforts.”

    You are well versed in Alinsky tactics, I must confess.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  115. @Corvinus

    Perpetual pilpul. Accuse. Accuse. Accuse. Never admit to your materialist outlook.

    Quantum physicists, geologists and researchers the likes of Rupert Sheldrake have demolished the scientistic notion of belief that the five proven senses along can determine truth and reality. Complete hogwash and narcissistic, Western arrogance.

    It’s a failed theoretical vision, but your entire weltansschaung is totally dependent on that. My insights are hardly unique, but they are not of the self-delusionary herd, as are is your Talmudist trickery.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  116. @Corvinus

    You write:

    You are well versed in Alinsky tactics, I must confess.

    I’d never even heard of Saul Alinsky until a few years ago. And to the extent that I do know of him now, it’s what I’ve heard said from others in the commentariat in the Unz Review and elsewhere.

    I looked him up some years ago and found out he was a Marxist Zio miscreant.
    That’s all I needed to know – so not worth spending a second of my valuable time reading the output of this non-entity and determining the reasons for his infamy.

    It’s like those people that devote their time reading the output of fellow Marxist/Trotskyist [the pseudo economist] Michael Hudson that for some unexplained reason Ron Unz features in the UR, while far more prescient and insightful individuals are ignored.

    I don’t know why people bother with these dregs of humanity.

  117. tanabear says:
    @Ron Unz

    Does this story lend credence to the idea that COVID-19 was released during the military games in Wuhan, China?

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/military-olympics-october-2019-wuhan-china-athletes-caught-covid

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  118. Mevashir says:

    This is an extremely impressive interview. Comments by both Barrett and Unz are insightful thoughtful and measured. You appear to be a terrific team sincerely respecting the strengths of each other. Maybe if Ron will run for president Kevin could be VP or press secretary?

    I totally agree that skepticism about the legitimacy of the mainstream media played a huge role in Trump’s election. And Kevin is correct that when you trash the organs of reality, it’s totally unpredictable what will happen as a consequence. I think the consequences actually are extremely dangerous. What happens is we enter a period of chaos where any idea becomes plausible and there’s no way to sort out fact from fiction.

    Just look at the quality of the comments following this interview. People argue against each other with tremendous passion and evidence. It’s not possible for the average person to sort out fact from fiction, truth from lies. When the oracles of popular culture are discredited we enter a dangerous era of complete chaos and pending collapse. And I do believe our Zionist enemies wish this. I think they have sucked America dry and the teat is withered and they’re ready to move on. But they want to leave behind a stinking rotting corpse.

  119. Mevashir says:

    I’m reflecting more on this extraordinary interview. And I think there is an element of chutzpah and even gaslighting going on here. Ron is arguing that he and he alone has produced the smoking gun that proves a conspiracy behind the origins of covid and more importantly discredits the mass media as either blind to the truth or willing accomplices to falsehood.

    The chutzpah is the fact that for the last 50 years the evidence has been piling up about the complete untrustworthiness of the mass media with regard to the JFK assassination the Martin Luther King assassination the fake moon landings and more recently the 9/11 Zionist terrorist charade. Countless individuals have spilled oceans of ink and written millions of pages of insightful critiques of the various establishment narratives. And now it seems that Ron is trying to ride their coattails and claim credit for the work that many individuals prior to him already have done.

    There’s a principle in Jewish law that the finishing touch is credited with the action. The final hammer blow it’s called. And I think this is what Ron is doing either deliberately or unconsciously. He’s swooping in on the tail end of innumerable man hours of laborious research and writing over the past many decades exposing the complete untrustworthiness of America’s mass media America’s political establishment and its judiciary. I don’t know if he wants to be acclaimed by society as the ultimate groundbreaking whistleblower, but his arrogance is quite shocking. The only thing Ron really has contributed uniquely is he has collated all the different streams of thought and works of different writers into one large website and presented a comprehensive overview of different conspiracy concepts. But it doesn’t mean he deserves to claim credit for being the ultimate whistleblower.

    Another problem here is that all the armchair quarterbacks writing articles here and commenting seem to enjoy analyzing why the Titanic is about to sink beneath the waves. It’s like they don’t want to take any concrete action but just want to sit back and micromanage the destruction of our society. There’s a very easy solution to our problems which is for all the NRA big shot gun owners who claim they’re there to protect all of our constitutional rights to simply march en masse to Washington surround the capital and demand that everyone inside resign their seats. The NRA blowhards are incapable of standing up for a single American Right apart from the right to own weapons and shoot ammunition on a range.

    The approach on this website seems like a bunch of people flying in an airplane that suddenly develops engine trouble and is headed for an inevitable crash. Now is it worthwhile for the passengers on the plane to start arguing why the engines have flamed out? Are the engines defective? Did the fuel run out? Is there some other problem at play? At the end of the day the plane is going to crash and all of the passengers will perish. So what is the point of arguing about the exact cause of the calamity?

    It seems like that’s what we’re doing here. We’re arguing about why America is about to crash and burn. Ultimately it’s an exercise in futility. People who are truly humble should be entering a prayerful contemplative mode because the horror and human suffering that’s about to ensue are almost unfathomable.

    I don’t see any evidence of people on this website recognizing the looming suffering and taking steps to minimize or sublimate it. Instead I see a bunch of arrogant fools arguing over what caused the engine of our airplane to flame out. We’re about to meet our Maker. Our society is in total meltdown. We need to be preparing for the end rather than trying to do an autopsy on how we will end up there. We need to be thoughtfully introspective rather than arrogantly argumentative. Amen

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  120. Corvinus says:
    @emerging majority

    Again, anyone who you disagree with ideologically is labeled a Jew l, a hasbara troll, or one who engages in pilpul. That is clearly an irrational approach to take.

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  121. @Corvinus

    Answer to that accusation is simple. Can you truthfully aver that you are not a Talmudist? There are plenty of honest and honorable Jews in the world. However, they are not part of the Sanhedrin’s control network. They are noble Jews and not ethnophiliacs.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  122. peterAUS says:
    @Mevashir

    I don’t see any evidence of people on this website recognizing the looming suffering and taking steps to minimize or sublimate it.

    There are quite a few people here who recognized, ages ago, the looming etc….. They have been trying to take those steps; how effectively time will tell.

    Let’s assume, for a sake of this (probably brief…) conversation that we are facing technocratic dystopia: managerial state with anarcho-tyranny and austerity, based on CBDC and Social Credit. Something like that; let’s not get bogged down in details.

    What are the steps you are taking to minimize or sublimate it?

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  123. Mevashir says:
    @peterAUS

    Good question. My steps are to minimize my economic footprint as much as possible and to reduce the karmic load of having to live in this evil globalized system. Using Buddhist ideas of minimizing desires and reducing attachments. That is the only rational response in my view.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @peterAUS
  124. Mevashir says:
    @Mevashir

    Here are some examples. I survive on a few hundred dollars a month. My utility bill is about \$10 a month. I don’t own a car but walk and ride buses. I don’t own a television radio computer. I haven’t used a clothes dryer or oven in seven years. I don’t use air conditioning. I do all of my online work in public libraries. I utilize food banks and thrift stores. Apart from underwear and socks I have not bought a new garment in probably 10 years. I don’t go to movies or patronize Las Vegas or professional sports. It is not possible to reform the system so my goal is to fly as far under the radar as possible without hitting the ground. It’s not easy but it’s the only way to navigate the horrible evils of this world.

    • Thanks: emerging majority
    • Replies: @peterAUS
  125. peterAUS says:
    @Mevashir

    Good question.

    It is.
    If this online pub were half of what’s supposed to be that would be the main question focused on here.

    My steps are to minimize my economic footprint as much as possible and to reduce the karmic load of having to live in this evil globalized system. Using Buddhist ideas of minimizing desires and reducing attachments.

    An individualistic approach to impending dystopia.

    That is the only rational response in my view.

    Well…that’s the question, isn’t it?
    I believe the only way out of it is well organized effort to challenge the power of the state. Zero chance of that at this stage, so, in the meantime, your approach does offer a (temporary) solution.

    • Thanks: Mevashir
  126. peterAUS says:
    @Mevashir

    I survive on a few hundred dollars a month. My utility bill is about \$10 a month. I don’t own a car but walk and ride buses. I don’t own a television radio computer. I haven’t used a clothes dryer or oven in seven years. I don’t use air conditioning. I do all of my online work in public libraries. I utilize food banks and thrift stores. Apart from underwear and socks I have not bought a new garment in probably 10 years. I don’t go to movies or patronize Las Vegas or professional sports.

    I see.
    Well…..let’s put it this way: that’s not something an average person can do, let alone those with families. Those would see your approach as unique and quite radical. Having said that, using such approach as a guidance wouldn’t be a bad idea.

    It is not possible to reform the system so my goal is to fly as far under the radar as possible without hitting the ground.

    It’s not possible to reform the system at this stage. It will even get worse. But…in time an opportunity could present itself to reform/change it.

    It’s not easy but it’s the only way to navigate the horrible evils of this world.

    Well…there are other ways (with smart approach to consumer society): extended families; small (related) communities; small circles of very good/tested friends.

    Still, that’s all band aid, IMHO. Sooner or later a well organized effort to challenge the power of the state is required. My take anyway.

    • Agree: Mevashir
    • Replies: @Mevashir
  127. Mevashir says:

    I very much appreciate your gracious and reasonable response. That’s not typical on this website of winner take all zero-sum argumentation!

    I readily admit my circumstances are unique and not applicable to most people. I also do not discount your approach. This is something I do uniquely tailored to my circumstances and psychological makeup, which is problematical and not something I would wish on many other people!

    I’ve been married numerous times and I have progeny on three different continents who have no contact with me because they think I am eccentric if not worse. I feel that most of my life has been a passing dream. I tell people I’m starring in a movie that I never auditioned for. I’m looking forward to exiting this horrible realm of suffering and moving on to something better.

    If you are really from Australia, I have a question for you. I had a friend here in Colorado who is Australian. He’s lived in the States for 50 years and has worked various jobs such as river guide and agricultural supply person. He had a stint as a professional surfer. In his senior years he’s fallen into very poor health and is heavily dependent on the Medicare socialized medicine system. He also utilizes many other aspects of America’s rapidly faltering social welfare system. But the weird thing is he constantly rails against leftists, even though he is a heavy beneficiary of their policies. He says that labor unions destroyed the Australian economy. He’s also incredibly paranoid of the Chinese and views the Chinese premiere as something even worse than Genghis Khan. Is his attitude typical of your countrymen?

    I’ve shared certain conspiracy ideas with him but he is not at all receptive. He basically accepts the mainstream media dialectic between CNN and Fox news and shows no curiosity to go beyond that mental straitjacket.

    • Replies: @sb
  128. Mevashir says:
    @peterAUS

    I’m responding to you here but this is also appropriate to any other commenter. Ron Unz loves using the words strange or weird as a polite way of expressing incredulity at the stubborn closed-mindedness of the establishment.

    The weird thing that I’ve noted — since I’m a Jewish convert to Christianity but no longer attend any church and I consider myself politically to be a liberal — is that both right and left are in a subservient obsequious mode vis a vis Zionism. Both the Democrats and the Republicans are equally in bed with the Zionists and pandering to their interests. I don’t see much difference for example between Pompeo and Blinken in terms of their policies towards Israel. Both sides bend over backwards to accommodate Jewish and Zionist interests and demands.

    Having once lived in Israel and been part of that community, my suspicion and my fear is that so long as the elites in America funnel money into the Zionist coffers, they don’t care about the disintegration of national unity here. In fact I think they even invite it. They would like to see nothing more than the United States to collapse into a paroxysm of social upheaval discord and maybe even armed conflict, so long as all of those things serve as a smoke screen for the unbelievable amount of money resources and military and political support that the US channels into Zionist hands.

    I once did a very cursory examination of world history. And it occurred to me that nations that have pandered to Jewish interests sooner than later disintegrate and collapse into the dust of history. America and Europe are the biggest cucks for Zionism and both cultures are disintegrating and have completely lost their national identities. But Jewish behavior is incredibly selfish and so long as they’re receiving money and military and political support, they don’t care that the same countries that support them are disintegrating internally.

    There is a theory that Christianity is a kind of soft Judaism designed to win over the Gentile masses into the Jewish agenda. I never wanted to believe that but certainly in America Christianity resembles this aspect. You have liberal and conservative branches of Christianity that will fight to the death over issues like gun control abortion and social welfare. But when it comes to supporting Israel and Zionism they speak with complete unanimity. It’s very discouraging.

    I’ve come to the conclusion that organized religion is toxic and panders to the worst instincts of human beings. It’s like a form of porn or drug addiction for the soul.

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  129. peterAUS says:

    I very much appreciate your gracious and reasonable response. That’s not typical on this website of winner take all zero-sum argumentation!

    Because argumentation here, in 90 % of cases, isn’t about finding solutions for real life.

    If you are really from Australia, I have a question for you. I had a friend here in Colorado who is Australian. He’s lived in the States for 50 years and has worked various jobs such as river guide and agricultural supply person. He had a stint as a professional surfer. In his senior years he’s fallen into very poor health and is heavily dependent on the Medicare socialized medicine system. He also utilizes many other aspects of America’s rapidly faltering social welfare system. But the weird thing is he constantly rails against leftists, even though he is a heavy beneficiary of their policies. He says that labor unions destroyed the Australian economy. He’s also incredibly paranoid of the Chinese and views the Chinese premiere as something even worse than Genghis Khan. Is his attitude typical of your countrymen?

    It is, for Australian equivalent of Middle American Radicals. Chinese angle in particular. Applies to New Zealand too.

    I’ve shared certain conspiracy ideas with him but he is not at all receptive. He basically accepts the mainstream media dialectic between CNN and Fox news and shows no curiosity to go beyond that mental straitjacket.

    Yep. As I’ve mentioned several times so far: around 30 % of people here, apparently, had a big problem with Scamdemic measures. The approach, after faltering protests, was to go for elections etc. A party, similar to Trump effort before 2016 win, championed that attitude.
    The result: the party got ZERO seats in the parliament.
    Got worse: nobody on the …ahm…”alternative”…here wanted to discuss/analyse why.
    My own conclusion: this country was made by people much better than we are now. People of character. We lost that character. Got soft, weak. We don’t deserve it anymore. And we’ll get what we deserve, rather soon. Maybe..just maybe, the trials and tribulations there will (re)create that character.
    BTW, the same applies to all of the West, Anglosphere in particular.

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  130. peterAUS says:
    @Mevashir

    Ron Unz loves using the words strange or weird as a polite way of expressing incredulity at the stubborn closed-mindedness of the establishment.

    Well…some of us here express the same sentiment about his approach to the Scamdemic.

    ..they don’t care about the disintegration of national unity here. In fact I think they even invite it. They would like to see nothing more than the United States to collapse into a paroxysm of social upheaval discord and maybe even armed conflict, so long as all of those things serve as a smoke screen for the

    implementation of The Reset. Dystopian technocracy.
    Speaking of which, Israel appears to be on the forefront of that looking at the Scamdemic measures there. Now, that is something which most of people here have some trouble processing.

    I’ve come to the conclusion that organized religion is toxic and panders to the worst instincts of human beings. It’s like a form of porn or drug addiction for the soul.

    You could be onto something here. Keyword “organized”. Religion itself, well, that’s a bit more complicated, IMHO. Now….that’s also something I am not keen on talking about here, for a couple of reasons. Although it IS a fascinating topic, at this stage, it also could be a distraction.
    That’s something so visible on the “alternative”. Easy to distract, lose focus.
    My main focus, at this stage, is finding ways to lessen the damage from what’s coming. Austerity, anarcho-tyranny, CBDC, Social Credit etc.

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  131. Mevashir says:
    @peterAUS

    As someone who lived in Israel for 20 years, I can attest that the average Israeli is like the dumbest member of the MAGA movement over here. They are appallingly misinformed and manipulated. Since its inception Israel has practiced full spectrum dominance over domestic communications.

    I knew a guy who worked in an IDF intelligence branch whose job was to sit in a high-tech bunker and monitor all emails phone calls and other communications of Israelis. The abuses that Snowden talked about are commonplace over there. Israelis have always been ruled by a technocratic elite and they justify it by saying that only technological supremacy can help them survive in the face of the enormous numbers of Arab enemies. Israelis are completely cowed by the PhD upper echelon technocrats that you speak about. Netanyahu himself has two PhDs in I believe math and computer science from MIT. Israelis practically worship people like that.

    In fact, I don’t think it’s an exaggeration to surmise that Israel is like a beta test for the whole technocratic reset movement that you are so concerned about. Don’t you find it strange that Zelenskyy has been talking about remaking Ukraine in the image of Israel?

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  132. Mevashir says:
    @peterAUS

    I am enjoying our exchange. You are the first person I’ve dialogued with at TUR that I don’t feel is backing me into the corner with a rapier!

    If Peter is your real name, Michael is mine. Mevashir is a Hebrew word I made up that connotes evangelism through song. I’ve pretty much lost my passion for that, however, due to the toxic politics of American Christianity. For example the whole obsession about gays I think is completely misplaced. I think the churches should simply state that they are in favor of monogamous relationships, straight or gay, and stop focusing so much on these deviants.

    [MORE]

    I do oppose the normalization of transsexuals because I think it’s perverse for a number of reasons. The first is that transsexuals are really asexual because they have used expensive plastic surgery to mutilate their sex organs and they can never reproduce again. That’s something that should not be easily countenanced. Also nobody knows the health consequences of taking opposite gender sex hormones for the rest of your life. The whole thing is so selfish and narcissistic. I don’t support any form of plastic surgery except maybe in the case of people who suffer fire injuries. But the idea that a person should be applauded by society for dumping \$100,000 into sexually self-mutilating plastic surgery is disgusting to me.

    I also think the whole pride movement is evil and foolish, as though people deserve to be respected because of their sexuality! I don’t think anybody deserves to be respected apart from their character their behavior and their life achievements. But these deviants come along and say they deserve society’s applause simply because they want to bugger someone of the same sex.

    Recently I had my Facebook account closed after I posted a Jews for Jesus type picture that I created. I uploaded a version of it here:
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/14AFCkHDqSY0N2ke2Q5F3THJ17W83E8mS/view?usp=drivesdk

    FB emailed me a few hours after I posted it to say I had violated their community standards and they were closing my account. But then I was getting a whole bunch of pop-up ads on YouTube for various sexual deviants inviting me to support their various pride parades and other such events. I conclude we are living in a time of total unbridled Satanism and it both disgusts and saddens me deeply.

    I just saw an article in Newsweek by a feminist radical who admits that they were out maneuvered by the religious right on the matter of abortion. I couldn’t resist writing to her. The following is my email. But before you read it see this because it explains my viewpoint that women are the instigators, either deliberately or unconsciously, of all male aggression and misbehavior in the world:
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/14AFCkHDqSY0N2ke2Q5F3THJ17W83E8mS/view?usp=drivesdk

    https://time.com/6190225/feminist-industrial-complex-roe-v-wade/

    Dear Charlotte,

    It’s not just feminists that have lost the American political game but the entire Democratic Party. Democrats are elitists who live on Cape cod and in gated communities in Connecticut and Silicon Valley. They expect they can rule the country by diktat. They never interface with the masses of Americans for whom life is disintegrating on every front.

    The Republicans are much better networked. From the smallest rural church up through social organizations like Lions Kiwanis VFW up to country clubs the Republicans network interface with other people strategize and gain support. The Democrat leaders are elitists with their heads in the clouds and have lost the ability to organize politically.

    I’m sorry to disillusion you, but the Democrats are headed for a bloodbath in 2022 and 2024. Some people say the Democratic party will be eclipsed for the next 50 years if not in perpetuity. You people simply do not know the suffering of the average American. The Republicans have been very good at using hot button morality issues to whip up anger and passion among the ranks and to distract them from the disintegration of their quality of life.

    At the end of the day any honest person will have to say the Democrats are utterly and completely clueless. For a bunch of liberal Rich people, all of these restrictions hardly matter. Either you will live in a blue state with abortion rights or you can fly off to the Bahamas to get an abortion there. Democrats don’t care about middle America and rightfully have lost control of the country. In the primaries before the 2020 election, every time Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren did well the liberal media organs New York Times and Washington Post insisted that Biden is the only person who could defeat trump. They forced this mediocre boring and mentally feeble person into national prominence against the will of even Democrat voters. And now your opponents will gleefully watch as President Biden steers the Democrat Titanic ship of State right into the iceberg and to the bottom of the sea. Good riddance!

    I do agree with you that this website does not generate any practical solutions but seems to aim simply to diffuse anger. That’s the root of my suspicions. I call it mensturbation for mental masturbation. I think it’s a very sophisticated psyop designed to vent our anger and passion in futile rhetorical outbursts and to prevent people from forming face to face practical coalitions. I also think the owner has an incredible ego as though he’s the world’s most to be admired whistleblower and conspiracy researcher. Complete BS. Countless heroic sacrificial people have preceded him. Yet he comes along at the tail end to claim all the credit.

  133. Mevashir says:
    @peterAUS

    My own conclusion: this country was made by people much better than we are now. People of character. We lost that character. Got soft, weak. We don’t deserve it anymore. And we’ll get what we deserve, rather soon. Maybe..just maybe, the trials and tribulations there will (re)create that character.
    BTW, the same applies to all of the West, Anglosphere in particular.

    I completely concur with you. Recently I met a man in an assisted living home in our area who has an extraordinary life story. His name is Scott. He’s a former professor of soil science at an American university. He also worked in mine reclamation programs throughout the west and overseas as well. He is a most unusual person who’s liberal politically but owns many guns and used to be an avid hunter. I’ve never met someone with that combination of qualities. Most gun people out here are far right in their politics.

    Scott was raised on a farm in Indiana. His ancestors were mainly German immigrants. He’s a very big man and his father and uncles were teachers athletic coaches and played professional football in the early days of the sport in the United States. (Scott told me that his Uncle Walter weighed in at a massive 330 lb and was the terror of the offensive and defensive line!)

    Scott described to me the rigors of the farm he grew up in in Indiana. From the youngest age he and his brother Dave were expected to do many chores on the farm. He told me he was stacking 100 lb bales of hay when he was 10 years old. He had his own pony and the farm had about 10 dogs and a bunch of cats that lived outside and Scott could still remember the names of each and every one of them! He and his brother were expected to work hard and they did and they also were able to excel academically and athletically. Scott was offered a football scholarship to West Point and a basketball scholarship to Purdue. He’s a very multi-talented self-made person.

    He told me one of his ancestors fought in the Civil War for the Union and was in every major battle. His ancestors came over from Germany, took the train West to Pittsburgh, got on a riverboat and floated down the Ohio river. When they got to a certain place in Indiana territory they disembarked from the boat, marched 20 miles inland to stake out a homestead and started their lives. I listen to his stories with total incredulity at the hardiness and fortitude of these people who made this country what it is. And today we live like a bunch of totally dysfunctional technocratic nerds living in a nightmarish dystopian state of mental and emotional manipulation. It honestly makes me sick to my stomach to think about the degeneration of our society.

    The stories Scott told me are like out of history books. I’ve never met anyone in person who lived with such self-sacrificial fortitude and heroism. And the most amazing thing is that Scott is a most modest person and doesn’t really take any personal credit for these life experiences. At one point he was working in Tanzania in a USAID program to help Africans develop agriculturally. He would spend a lot of time with Maasai tribes people. These are the people who hunt lions with spears to protect their cows. One time Scott was walking through the bush with a couple of Masai warriors and they were suddenly confronted with a charging lion from not too far away. Scott calmly picked up his shotgun and shot the animal dead at about 20 m. It’s an incredible story but Scott tells it almost as an afterthought!

    They don’t make Americans like this anymore. Certainly my generation of Americans is spoiled rotten and don’t have 1% of the guts and fortitude of someone like Scott.

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  134. sb says:
    @Mevashir

    I think many of the Australians who have ended up in the US have a dislike for Australia’s historic collectivist culture (‘we’re all in this together ‘) and admired America’s individualistic ethic (‘every man for himself”)
    It’s a matter of taste.
    If I were in poor health I know where I would rather be

  135. Mevashir says:
    @sb

    He seems to enjoy bad mouthing the very institutions that are keeping him alive. He’s become part of the toxic culture of grievance.

    His siblings beg him to return to OZ but in my view knowing what I know of him you’re lucky he’s not there.

  136. Corvinus says:
    @emerging majority

    “Answer to that accusation is simple. Can you truthfully aver that you are not a Talmudist?”

    Again, anyone who opposes what you believe is true is automatically put in this category and other. It’s your defense mechanism against critical thinking.

    I have said numerous times on this fine blog I am goy. Pure Goy. I am a mix of German, Polish, and Dutch who can trace my ancestors back to the early 1800s. No Jewish blood.

    That is the absolute truth. Will you accept it and refrain from making these accusations in the future, or will you continue to make baseless assertions?

    “However, they are not part of the Sanhedrin’s control network.”

    And you know this how?

  137. peterAUS says:
    @Mevashir

    ….Israelis have always been ruled by a technocratic elite and they justify it by saying that only technological supremacy can help them survive in the face of the enormous numbers of Arab enemies. Israelis are completely cowed by the PhD upper echelon technocrats….

    Yep.

    ……I don’t think it’s an exaggeration to surmise that Israel is like a beta test for the whole technocratic reset movement….

    Yep. New Zealand is another good example.

    .. You are the first person I’ve dialogued with at TUR that I don’t feel is backing me into the corner with a rapier!…

    The Scamdemic proved that arguing/debating/discussing, online, is, almost always, just waste of time.

    …If Peter is your real name, Michael is mine….

    Careful.

    …I think the churches should simply state that they are in favor of monogamous relationships, straight or gay, and stop focusing so much on these deviants….

    Yep. But, easily losing focus is what defines the “alternative”. The opposition doesn’t make that mistake.

    ….this website does not generate any practical solutions but seems to aim simply to diffuse anger….
    …. ….it’s a very sophisticated psyop designed to vent our anger and passion in futile rhetorical outbursts and to prevent people from forming face to face practical coalitions…..

    That’s one of the objectives. There are some other; none in “our” interest. Us being people designated as targets for The Reset.

    ..I also think the owner ..

    is a highly functioning retard who failed, miserably, the test of character with the Scamdemic.

    … I listen to his stories with total incredulity at the hardiness and fortitude of these people who made this country what it is. And today we live like a bunch of totally dysfunctional technocratic nerds living in a nightmarish dystopian state of mental and emotional manipulation. It honestly makes me sick to my stomach to think about the degeneration of our society….

    Yep. “Hard times make hard men; hard men make good times….”

    ..They don’t make Americans like this anymore. Certainly my generation of Americans is spoiled rotten and don’t have 1% of the guts and fortitude of someone like Scott…

    And Canadians, Brits, Aussies, Kiwis. And Norwegians….etc…all the way down to Sicily. It’s even worse. The same has happened to Finns, Poles….all the way down to Macedonia.
    Gets even worse. I know some guys from Balkans. Vets from their troubles in 90’s. Their kids are, now, “a bunch of totally dysfunctional technocratic nerds”.

    It is what it is.

    On the bright side more and more people are realizing, at least, that the economy, their wallet, will take a hit. That’s a good starting point for discussion and, hopefully, start of finding some practical solutions in the future. Months ahead could be interesting.

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  138. peterAUS says:
    @peterAUS

    This

    …a good starting point for discussion and, hopefully, start of finding some practical solutions in the future…

    probably needs some clarification.

    I am certain that The Reset will happen. When and how IS open to discussion; my take is rather soon, and will be pretty radical.
    So, the discussions/solutions aren’t about preventing it. That ship sailed when majority, “alternative” included, swallowed the Scamdemic, hook and sinker. Or, better, when the second vax dose was put into circulation and lemmings lined up to take it.

    The discussions/solutions are about minimizing the damage to people like us. That 15 % minority of any society. 80 % (sheeple) will swallov The Reset the same they swallowed the Scam. 5 %, of course, are those doing and benefiting from The Reset. The rest is us. From extended family, through neighborhood, town/city to a society in general.
    We will get damaged. The only thing is how much.

    After the tech dystopia takes hold we can expect to start cracking due to own contradictions. When, no idea, but we’ll be able to see the cracks. Then, some sort of pushback, even a fix, could be found. Not a concern of mine at this stage.
    My take anyway.

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  139. MaryLS says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    What about the flu, which seems to have pretty much disappeared while Covid was running rampant. Also, do not overlook the numbers ftom the Diamond Princess, where deaths were about 1%. The Diamond Princess was a petrie dish for Covid, but we have not taken advantage of what we should have learned ftom that. Most people did not get sick.

  140. @sb

    Referencing that Australia has Medicare for all, you write:

    If I were in poor health I know where I would rather be

    Australia has long waiting lists for elective surgery. With that and other shortcomings of the inefficiently run Government system in Oz, many choose private health insurance:

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jan/31/nearly-half-of-australians-dont-think-private-health-insurance-is-essential

    Now bear in mind that Australians pay higher rates of income tax than do Americans. (Medicare for all doesn’t come for nothing you know).
    On top of that is added a 2% income tax surcharge for the Medicare Levy (which many believe is funding Medicare but it comes nowhere near to doing so).

    So picture this scenario: A typical husband and wife may have a combined income of \$200K gross (pre-tax income).
    They choose private health cover and pay say \$5K – \$6K per year for that cover (two adults and two children), because they’re aware of the inadequacies of the public health system (ie: Government funded Medicare).

    To add to their woes, they need to pay another \$4K per year for the Medicare levy – even though they won’t, for the most part, ever be accessing the services of the Government funded system.

    Now bear in mind, Australia is the world’s largest exporter of iron ore, the world’s largest producer/exporter of Gold, one of the world’s largest exporters of coal, LNG and much more.
    This enormous mineral wealth (countless scores of billions generated in royalties, corporate and income taxes etc that go to state and Federal treasuries), is distributed over a population that, at 25.5 million, if far smaller than that of the state of California.

    YET, somehow the land downunder still manages to run chronic budget deficits year after year – and THE OUTSIZED contributor to this overspend is the Government run Medicare system.

    Yes, Australians are covered for most medical crises but, AT WHAT COST ?

    If all Federal and state funding for health was stopped tomorrow, and instead the taxpayers were given back only HALF the money being presently spent by these health bureaucracies (the other half could be used to retire debt), it could easily be argued that with that money they’d get BETTER HEALTHCARE through private health cover in a completely deregulated health sector, than they are presently receiving.

    The fact of the matter is that AT LEAST HALF of present expenditure is flushed down the shithole as it is being eaten up by bureaucratic inefficiencies, DUPLICATION (overlap between state and Federal health jursidictions), and paying the salaries of countless parasitic fat cat administrators – all of whom get significant six figure wages, perks and benefits.

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  141. Corvinus says:
    @peterAUS

    There is no reset being planned or about to be implemented. You’re being taken for a ride.

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  142. Corvinus says:
    @peterAUS

    The links are proposals. You’re trying to make 1 plus 1 = 3.

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  143. peterAUS says:
    @Corvinus

    Let’s agree to disagree and move on.

    For the rest still reading here, I’d be interested in talking/visualizing scenarios where CBDC has been implemented in a region a person lives.

    How that life would look like? What would be elements some of us wouldn’t like (majority wouldn’t mind them of course; a lot would love it, actually)?

    And, the important part: how would one try to offset/minimize those effects some of us wouldn’t like?

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  144. Ron Unz says:
    @tanabear

    Does this story lend credence to the idea that COVID-19 was released during the military games in Wuhan, China?

    No, that ZeroHedge story seems like total garbage. I’ve discussed those issues at length in my articles:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-covid-epidemic-as-lab-leak-or-biowarfare/#trying-to-disguise-a-smoking-gun

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-confronting-covid-crimestop/

    Given the extremely contagious nature of Covid, it’s exceptionally unlikely that it was circulating in Wuhan at the time of the World Military Games. I’ve read Rogin’s book, he’s just a Neocon conduit rather than any sort of credible journalist. Even so, he doesn’t repeat the ridiculous claims he’d made in the article quoted.

  145. IreneAthena says: • Website
    @peterAUS

    Ok, PeterAUS, I’ll bite, even though the pattern has been, when I make a suggestion about what one might do about “it” (“it being” the very real possibility that we face a future where only those approved by Big Brother will be allowed to use Central Bank Digital Currency” to buy life’s essentials) your response tends to be “aw that’ll never work.” Well there’ve been a few “good lucks” so I’ll take those at face value!

    I would suggest: First, get rid of any paralyzing fear that keeps you from moving forward with preparations. Imagine the very worst thing that could happen, and imagine how you might get through it. For me, the very worst would be not death, but rather “living death” in a prison, separated from my husband and not knowing where he was or even if he were alive. I had a book “fall into my hands” that has helped me a lot with that, “Man’s Search for Meaning” by a Jew, Victor Frankl, and he is a good Jew, I think, unlike those from The Synagogue of Satan. Others may disagree with me on ithis point. All I can say is, “God works in mysterious ways.”

    Should I go into prison, I’m not sure how I’d deal with this nagging regret, described by Alexander Solzhenitsyn. It is something to contemplate, but perhaps best not dwelt on at too much length on this forum. It is his quote that begins, “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like, if every Security Operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, (etc.)…”

  146. peterAUS says:

    Ok, PeterAUS, I’ll bite, even though the pattern has been, when I make a suggestion about what one might do about “it” (“it being” the very real possibility that we face a future where only those approved by Big Brother will be allowed to use Central Bank Digital Currency” to buy life’s essentials) your response tends to be “aw that’ll never work.” Well there’ve been a few “good lucks” so I’ll take those at face value!

    Correct.
    I believe we have a fundamental disagreement about human nature.

    I would suggest: First, get rid of any paralyzing fear that keeps you from moving forward with preparations. Imagine the very worst thing that could happen, and imagine how you might get through it.

    Yep. Used that methodology several times. Worked well, apparently, so far.

    Should I go into prison, I’m not sure how I’d deal with this nagging regret, described by Alexander Solzhenitsyn. It is something to contemplate, but perhaps best not dwelt on at too much length on this forum.

    Perhaps not on this forum, but definitely somewhere/somehow. In my previous (professional) life that’s exactly how I, and my men, survived a couple of rather tricky situations. Or so I say.

    Now, that’s (prisons etc) isn’t, actually, what I’ve been thinking about, really.
    To use an analogy from my previous (professional life): the enemy isn’t likely to have their Tier 1 unit on THAT hill we are supposed to take. It will be, most likely, a couple of scared and drunk militiamen who’ll leg it as soon as they see us.

    So, back to this reality: it’s about adjusting our life under gradual introduction of CBDC.

    We can, based on the Scamdemic, predict that the introduction will use same methodology as implementation of the vax. Gradual introduction by carrot and squeezing non-compliant out. Keyword “squeezing“.

    The game, IMHO, is about adjusting to the “squeez”.

    In practical terms, very briefly: no vax-no travel, restaurants, fitness centers, barber etc…etc…I’ve seen people almost religious about not getting vax buckling down because they couldn’t travel .

    So, again, in practical terms, I am looking at something similar to methods people were using during rationing/other restrictions in WW2 in the West. From choosing similar minded people, through evading state’s control measures to, actually, getting what they wanted. Customized/adjusted for the present, of course. Something like that.
    Now, again, we know that 80 of people would embrace what’s coming. 5 % will manage it. Well…15 % of “us” will mind that. Again, 10 % will, most likely, buckle, for various reasons. That leaves 5 %.
    We also know that TPTBs started, hard, working on this in 2018. They have an excellent head start.
    So, maybe “we” could start now?!

    Ah, yes, back to that disagreement about human nature.
    People like you believe the solution is about educating people. I don’t.
    I believe it’s about carefully networking with similar minded people. Those who are already “in”. In practical terms those who passed the Scamdemic test and respect the power of the state.

    My take, anyway.

  147. @Truth Vigilante

    I’ve worked in public and private health in Austfailia, and public is VASTLY more efficient, you idiot libertarian troll. All that matters is the gelt for you blood-suckers. I’d say ‘[tragically unsuccessful’ wannabe blood-sucker in your case.

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  148. @sb

    Good riddance to anything that prefers the US model. What I worry about is the tsunami of Yanks arriving here, and polluting the airwaves with their Yankee drawls. We are being colonised by foreign settlers, and I doubt that it is an accident. The first loyalty of our so-called ‘elites’ is to The Anglosphere Empire, Austfailia next, if Israel does not get in there somewhere.

  149. IreneAthena says: • Website

    Ah, yes, back to that disagreement about human nature.
    People like you believe the solution is about educating people. I don’t.
    I believe it’s about carefully networking with similar minded people…

    You and I may see more “eye-to-eye” with regard to human nature than you might think. Without getting into a “tarsome” debate over philosophy/religion:

    I believe that Christ is the Head of an invisible Body, made up of people who have accepted His offer of redemption.

    And why do they need to be redeemed? Because — and here is a possible point of agreement — as my dad explained to me tenderly: “Most people are a-holes,” or, in other words, “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?”

    I still think it’s worth trying to educate people about the clot-shot, mainly because I don’t want the brand new generation coming up to be sterilized or even wiped out. The USA has become the first country in the world to approve use of Pfizer’s and Moderna’s c00-vee-one-niner toxic clot shot ON INFANTS!!!! Again, a USA-specific argument, I might ask friends on the same “a-hole” to “someone better” trajectory that I am on, “How can you say you are ‘pro-life’ and still approve of this poison for your infant? ”

    While someone may have been dumb enough to get himself jabbed and annually boosted just so he could take plane-rides to vacation-land, he may still be persuaded to withhold the jab from his kid. And if he can keep the kid un-jabbed until such time (age 12 or so, by which point the kid may be orphaned already, and transitioned to the charge of people the parents had come to trust) , then that’s more man-power or woman-power to.. oh, say…grow food on that hill that the Tier 1 enemy unit is unlikely to molest, food that is either free for the taking to those of like-mind, or barterable for something other than the CBDC coin of the “Reset realm.”

    THAT SAID, I have been “moving away” emotionally from especially hostile friends and even family whom I suspect would not hesitate to turn me in to the aforementioned “Security Operative.” If I am strong enough, they won’t be told my address next time I change it, which may be very soon. And that is heart-breaking, but it’s the reality.

    The good news is that new allegiances are coming together, organically. I’ve observed locally people “have their antennae” up for people of like mind. They’ll ask a leading question, and I’ll give a leading answer…”I don’t know if I should say this, but…” and they’ll say, “oh go ahead and say it” and “boom!” a potential “working joint” has started to bud. But even in exchanges like this, there will be moles. One has to have discernment, and in my case, faith that I’m being directed to alliances that will be profitable. And in the end, “if I am meant to go into captivity for purposes I may not know now, then into captivity I must go.” As C. t. B. said, “the safest place is at the center of His will.”

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  150. @mulga mumblebrain

    What do you know about efficiency Mulga ? Are you an accountant ? Did you audit the books of said public and private sector hospitals you worked in ?
    At the end of the day, you know jack-shit about efficiency.

    You wouldn’t be able to run a Fish & Chips shop. At least Pauline Hanson, for all her shortcomings, could do that.

  151. sb says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Well all I can say is that I don’t have private medical insurance and have had a couple of operations , countless scans ( MRI, PET , Ultrasound ,CT ), numerous specialist consultations, over the about the last 5 years and never paid a cent .
    I have paid a couple of hundred p.a. for prescriptions ( I reach the ceiling payment )
    I did have a shoulder op a few years back and had to wait 6 months for the op ( would have been 3 months but postponed on the day ) . It would certainly be a longer wait now since Covid

    But maybe your experience is different .
    I’m not so sure, by the way , that Australians pay more tax than Americans if you take into account medical and educational expenses- which are a huge burden in the US- and the general welfare system

    Yes I agree that there is a lot wrong with Australia ( isn’t that why we’re here ? ) but I’m limiting myself to a USA vs Australia comparison for the average Joe

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  152. peterAUS says:
    @IreneAthena

    You and I may see more “eye-to-eye” with regard to human nature than you might think.

    Be that as it may, in practical terms we, considerably, differ.

    We see what’s coming differently. That’s the foundation for an effective action. Now, that’ not really that important.

    What is important we disagree about the method of dealing with that. I believe yours is, for a lack of a better word, anarchistic. A voluntary effort from a loose group/mass of people.

    Mine is quite the opposite. It’s a very strong organization, with leaders and led, roles and responsibilities, deliverables, deadlines, discipline.

    I know that, at this stage, having any sort of such an organization is impossible, for a couple of reasons. In time, who knows?

    In the meantime, minimizing a damage from austerity and anarcho-tyranny, on a personal/family/close friends level, is where the time and effort go.

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  153. IreneAthena says: • Website
    @peterAUS

    In all sincerity, PeterAUS, good luck!

    • Agree: peterAUS
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