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In November, 2019, who could possibly have known that the COVID-19 pandemic was brewing in Wuhan? Only the people who unleashed it! That’s why the April 2020 ABC News story detailing US intelligence agency foreknowledge amounts to a “smoking gun.” For the full story, read Ron Unz’s free Our COVID-19 Catastrophe ebook.

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Note: The ABC News report “US intelligence agencies warned of virus in November”

and a 14-second snippet of Robert Cray’s song “Smoking Gun” are included in “COVID-19 Bio-Attack Smoking Gun!” under the Fair Use doctrine protecting creative expression. The meaning of both has been adapted to the argument advanced in this video, and thus substantially altered for creative purposes in accordance with the Fair Use provision.

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  1. Biff says:

    Do your part and share this video everywhere.

    • Agree: JWalters
  2. Espace says:

    Two people from my office were sick as early as mid September 2019. One was out of work for two weeks with something she described as having “…never experienced before”.
    If it is true that vaccinated can carry and spread the virus, then is it possible that this was circulating earlier?
    Is it possible that it was released via other vaccines into the general population?
    I think it is overly optimistic to say that the ‘truth will come soon’ regarding who released this and when. Look at JFK, 9/11 and TWA800. We still do not have the full truth on those.

    I recall a televised interview early in 2020, with an Army General. When asked how soon vaccines could be deployed to the general population once ‘approved’, his reply was …‘within 24 hours’. That drew some attention but the story has faded into the distance, much like the origins of this whole thing will.

    • Thanks: annamaria
  3. The ABC News report “US intelligence agencies warned of virus in November”

    Well, sure! Because they knew it was coming. This scam is so vast and it’s my considered opinion that the USA, Canada, Euro countries, Russia, China, etc. etc. are all in on it in some form or another. If you grasp the true goals of all this (global domination and subjugation plus instituting Central Bank digital currencies in lieu of fiat) then, it’s pretty obvious.

    How about this nugget? Issued in Sept 2019.
    https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-modernizing-influenza-vaccines-united-states-promote-national-security-public-health/

    I also saw a video clip today of Biden, while in a Senate hearing in the late 1980s, talking about (paraphrasing) “someday when we have a serious disease we can’t eradicate and people will be forced to take mandatory testing”. Good grief…how spot-on could that idiot be 30 years ago? How many in Fed Gov have long known this Covid plandemic was coming? If I find that video clip, I’ll post it.

    • Replies: @The Real World
    , @JWalters
  4. RZ says:

    I have no expectation that anything I get from the MSM or government mouthpiece is accurate or makes sense, even so this leaves surprised, a very surprised. Even my cynical brain is stalling at the thought of what I’m “expected” to believe this time.

    • Replies: @Irish Savant
  5. It’s interesting, but far from being a smoking gun. So far no one has actually found the alleged November 2019 report. Instead, we have people claiming from April 20, 2020, onward that Trump was supposedly informed about the virus back in November. It’s obvious that ABC’s motivation in making this report was simply to bad-mouth Trump. Is it possible that the whole story of advance-knowledge back in November is really just fake news? Yes, it is possible. Without some verification of the existence of this report back in November the obvious skeptic response to this is to figure that maybe the whole story is just an anti-Trump smear which backfired by implying advance CIA-knowledge and was so abandoned. I don’t really know if that’s the case, but until someone locates a real smoking gun from November 2019 this will have to remain a possibility.

  6. In November, 2019, who could possibly have known that the COVID-19 pandemic was brewing in Wuhan?

    The most credible answer: Anthony Fauci, the proven liar and villain, who duly reported the Wuhan lab incident, shortly after it had occurred, to those who needed to know. As was the case prior to September 11, 2001, some who have an information advantage are tempted to capitalize on it.

    I recall have wondered about the source for a conspicuous run-up in pharmaceutical stock values around mid-November 2019. At a Thanksgiving party I asked somebody working in that industry about this, but that person had no explanation.

    The Iranian phenomenon, which occurred months later, has been explained plausibly in a West Point publication in June 2020, the credibility of which some may reflexibly want to impugn:

    https://www.ctc.usma.edu/irans-covid-19-disinformation-campaign/

    According to Iranian health officials, the virus most likely came from China, either through Chinese students at the Qom seminaries and Al-Mustafa International University or from Chinese workers involved in infrastructure projects around Qom.

    Purportedly, as I remember reading two years ago, some high-level Iranian officials had visited China during this time. Since China, Russia, and Iran are improving their political and economic ties with each other, this explanation would not be unusual.

    To investigate this matter further, Congressman Rand Paul should ask more pointed questions of Anthony Fauci. Also, just “follow the money“. Which individuals and organizations placed suspiciously voluminous stock acquisitions during this crucial period prior to Thanksgiving 2019? Perhaps in this context the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation may show off some smoke.

  7. The fact that Israel completly freaked out on covid, does not mean it was a US biological attack on China or Iran. Israel is not an oracle.

  8. I’m not sure if others have made mention of this in other threads but I’ve just learned that Nobel Laureate and courageous truth teller [in exposing the dangers of Covid ‘vaccines’] Luc Montagnier died last week.
    He was 89 years old.

    Wikipedia had these kind words to say about him:

    During the COVID-19 pandemic, Montagnier promoted the conspiracy theory that SARS-CoV-2, the causative virus, was deliberately created and escaped from a laboratory. Such a claim has been rejected by other virologists.
    He has been criticised by other academics for using his Nobel prize status to “spread dangerous health messages outside his field of knowledge”

    The following attachment was posted by another UR contributor some time ago but it’s worth putting up again:

    Montagnier was pretty old but was in reasonable health for his age I’m told.

    Rumours are doing the rounds that he may not have died a natural death.
    After all, truth telling from people of his stature, tends to give the Covid Psyop perpetrators indigestion and is not conducive to longevity.
    Just ask the next of kin of Kary Mullis for their two cents on that.

  9. IronForge says:

    As soon as Dietrich and the Wuhan Olympics with a Crap Murican Delegation was mentioned, I had my suspicions.

    Mister Unz gathering other Elements has convinced me that there were USA_NBC-BioWeaps, possible CIA/MI6/Mossad Involvement.

    • Agree: John Q Duped
  10. James1488 says:

    Q:In November, 2019, who could possibly have known that the COVID-19 pandemic was brewing in Wuhan?
    A: An intelligence agency which had informants inside the lab (and knew very well what kind of viruses the Chinese had over there) and possibly inside the Chinese local government.

  11. GMC says:

    LOL Trump – ” This came outta know where.” Obviously nobody briefed him or the American people about the 300 BioWeapons Labs the the US has around the World – including Wuhan. But then again, the Americans are too stupid to put 2 + 2 together and see where the Virus – really came from and how it ould have spread so fast.

  12. @James1488

    The CIA lost their informants in China within a span of 72 hours because they failed to spot a double agent who stole the list of names. The result can be seen in Hong Kong – the CIA had to use White agents to coordinate the riots. Suspicious White males were routinely seen near riot hotspots, typing at their phones. Then at some point even the fucking Azov Battalion showed up to do 1488 or something.

    • Replies: @James1488
  13. As I concede that there are reasons why China might choose to let the US suffer the consequences of having stated the disaster without giving it the pasting publicly that Australia has copped for its peccadilloes of disrespect to China I certainly do not wish to discourage the search for truth however bad it is for US prestige and influence. But nothing can be gained by ignoring weaknesses in the case you,Ron, are making, including those where alternative explanations for what you choose to regard as significant t coincidences are available. So….

    1. I invite you to consider the case if Iran as one where one of the Auatollahs returning to Teheran from Qom proved to be a superspreader just like the Korean Christian woman who infected hundreds. Furthermore I question your way of choosing coincidences you think unlikely. It isn’t difficult to invent hundreds. E.g. knowing there was a faction of the Luftwaffe that liked the idea of strategic area bombing as much as Bomber Harris, even without the heavy bombers, one could guess that the accidental bombing of London was intended to trigger exactly the revenge attacks Churchill could be counted on to order.

    2. The ABC reports referred to reports in November of “disease sweeping through China” and “changing patterns of life in China”. Oops! Just not true or even close in November so at least you need to have an explanation for why it was said. Maybe, as I tentatively suggested the particular agency was behaving desperately to get itself noticed but that isn’t much help in finding the truth.

    3. The ABC had several sources but that could easily have been cooked up if one can find a plausible motive. Even the confirmation in Israel might be juust proof that there were smart operators at work. And they could have hoped to capitalise on the recent war game study to throw a bomb which would have a threat of pandemic taken seriously.

    4. Generally it is surprising that more hasn’t come out about the allegedly non existent report by now. Against my theorising it might be thought surprising that someone involved hasn’ said “we threw a bomb. We did our best, but no one did a thing about getting ready for pandemics”. And what about those other anti farming viruses? Why do we not hear more now?

    Good luck with keeping up the scrutiny of US incompetents.

    • Replies: @Da's Reich
  14. gotmituns says:

    As soon as I heard this malarkey of covid, I said, here we go again, another lie. If it comes from our govt. and or media, it’s a lie. Now add our medical people to that, they’re liars too.

  15. JWalters says:
    @Biff

    Completely agree. Very important.

    Reminds me of the dancing Israeli Mossad agents set up and photographing the collapse of the World Trade Center’s Twin Towers. As one of them said later on Israeli TV, they didn’t do it, their job was merely “to document the event”.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  16. James1488 says:
    @The_Masterwang

    I’m not talking about the CIA. Ron Unz said that the ‘Defense Intelligence Agency had produced a report warning that an out-of-control disease epidemic was occurring in the Wuhan area of China’. And this is exactly what intelligence agencies are supposed to do. This doesn’t have to mean that they themselves unleashed the virus. It is obvious that the DIA had informants inside the lab and new within hours that an accident had happened.

  17. Covid is completely natural virus that came from Asia like other influenzas. Spanish flu in 1918 or Russian flu in 1889, both originated from Eurasians steppes and moved westward.

    The only reason the world went nuts on covid was that it mimicked China’s response to covid, which was cultural but not rational. Asian countries have weird response to pestilence or pests: from catching rats and flies in Manchuria 1944 or in Dutch East Indies, to sparrow chasing during 1958-62 infamous “Four Pests campaign”.

    The reason why the West started to imitate China is more vague, but I think it has got something with typical American conviction that “the rich are right”. Because China is now quite wealthy as a state it was felt that their reaction to covid was justified, because if someone is rich must be smart, and if he is smart, what he does must be good.

    • Troll: Olivier1973
  18. Dr. David E. Martin has presented & documented in great detail & specificity a trail leading to the perps. Same old folks as per usual. The blatancy of a contrived cover-up leads away from Porton Down/Ft. Dietrich to Wuhan China. Obvious patsy. Note zero government response to the obvious frauds being documented daily…..just like: JFK, RFK, MLK, 9/11, 2008 TBTF financial give-away”. The Dominion voting systems, Lord Malloch Brown et al. Ensure that the people in high places conduct a suitable amount of misprision in public office to provide immunity for the perps from any real investigation? Note also the checkerboard motif on the Australian, English & Canadian Masonic thugs (police) ensuring that the bio weapons are fully deployed! Justin Trudeau must hold the line no matter what…..the natives are getting restless.
    Of note is a Project Camelot interview dating back to its beginning when Paul Ryan gets a whistleblower from the “City” to foretell the great cull with a cold virus, the London olympics also prefigure the cull in the ritual during the opening ceremony!
    Gas lighting us to our doom.

    • Replies: @Matt Lazarus
    , @Piglet
  19. It is an ASSUMPTION that the disease(s) labelled COVID19 were caused by air-borne particles containing “a virus”.

    The said foreknowledge might well relate to the psychological war these people launched and some completely different initiative that triggered the severe flus of early 2020.

    Like other commenters reported, a couple in my own family “caught COVID” in late 2019.

    Rulers have knowledge. We, with the best will in the world, get mostly misinformation. Going back to absolute basics. There is NO scientific evidence supporting the existence of a “Sars-cov-2” virus, nor any other pathogenic virus, nor for person-to-person transmissibility of the illness called COVID19 nor any other flu.
    There does exist scientific evidence that flus are NOT contagious.

    As Kary Mullis said, “There is no BELIEF in science.” Without isolation of a variable or entity and its observation against another variable THERE IS NO SCIENCE AT ALL.

    This is where “scientific” analysis should start.

    There is a reason why (false) Germ/Virus theory was adopted by those that want to control us, profit from us and, umm perhaps, kill us.

  20. Dumbo says:

    There were “simulations” (plans) done in 2017, 2019 and even earlier, like the SPARS thing which is eerily similar to what actually happened, so of course they knew in advance.

    This doesn’t mean that it’s a bioweapon, the bioweapon was the response. Covid is probably just flu, pneumonia and other diseases we already had but branded under the same name, with a fake “test”. Just look at the total difference in terms of symptoms from “Delta” to “Omicron” to see that they are not even the same disease.

    • Agree: Wojciech Garbacz
  21. @Missdirected

    Dr. David E. Martin has been getting a lot of airplay but he is not a reliable source. Please check his website davidmartin.world and absurd claims he makes about himself and his accomplishments, including the following:

    “His first invention was a laser integrated system to target and treat inoperable tumors. His mathematics helped unravel the way the human body processes hormones and led to the detection and treatment of many diseases. His observation of human behavior led to his development of technology which deciphers the intention and motivation of communication – a technology that has impacted and saved the lives of billions. His global business activities served to develop the world’s top-performing global equity index (including the CNBC IQ100 powered by M·CAM). He’s brought the world’s largest white-collar criminals to justice and brought the world’s most oppressed and disenfranchised transformative ways to engage. From the starry expanses of Mongolia to the flashing lights of New York, his work is as passion-filled whether it’s with a camel herder or a global CEO.”

    One can also check the site of the “company” he claims to be CEO of, M-CAM International and find equally bizarre statements about his activities.

  22. Rooster13 says:
    @Patrick McNally

    There was a hard shift in the media cycle about 2 weeks ago, where they really ramped up the anti Trump stories. I’m guessing it’s because of how poorly Biden’s is polling, and a number of failing narratives: covid, Russia, and inflation. They’re trying to go back to go back to the only thing they know to be effective; bash Trump. I’d expect more of these “backhanded” covid stories to try once again to bury Trump under covid misinformation.

  23. dimples says:

    “US intelligence agencies warned of virus in November”

    These are the same intelligence agencies that say that Russia is going to invade Ukraine, and other sundry fictions like Bin Laden did 911 etc. Any actual hard evidence for the Unz Covid-19 Biowarfare Theory is always appreciated!

    • Replies: @dimples
  24. Why is UNZ still blaming the USA when the whole world knows Covid came from China? Watch this video by a Chinese defector who has first hand evidence on the origins of this CCP bioweapon.

    Dr Li-Meng Yan Reveals CCP Spreading Hemorrhagic Fever Bioweapon Via Olympics

    https://www.brighteon.com/e7b7880f-9eaf-4389-b22d-12802cfc69e4

  25. anon[415] • Disclaimer says:
    @AntiVaxersUnited

    go fuck yourself hasbara kike. or maybe you’re a retarded goy cuckservative who belongs on Gateway Pundit?

    • Agree: Truth Vigilante
    • Replies: @AntiVaxersUnited
  26. pq says:

    Right. Why didn’t Sars-Cov-2 board any planes throughout Dec 2019 until NATO media launched the pandemic NARRATIVE in Jan 2020 while simultaneously accusing China of “cover up”?

    People need to understand that a pandemic NARRATIVE can create a CLINICAL pandemic by denying proper treatment, locking up GPs and family doctors in their basements, locking the elderly in care homes for months without oversight etc. The reason China has had such a low death rate since April 2020 is because they figured out that Sars-cov-2 is just another mutation of whatever flu bugs were going around in 2019.

    Yes, Fauci funded research in Wuhan and lied about it. But anyone who understands the basics of genome sequencing knows that the “lab-leaked bioweapon” is nothing more than a computer dataset of letters based on statistical probability and assembled with software such as “Megahit”. Fauci’s minions are not smart enough to develop a “bioweapon” without killing themselves.

    The CIA presence on the ground in Wuhan is a fact and they were there to get the pandemic NARRATIVE kickstarted. Get some Chinese scientists wittingly or unwittingly to dive through lung fluid of a handful of bog standard pneumonia patients to come up with a “new” sequence that is almost identical to previous coronavirus sequences. And btw, one of the key authors on the very first sequence Wu-Hu-1 was none other than Edward Holmes, close colleague of Germany’s Drosten who somehow developed the first PCR test before the sars-cov-2 sequence had been published. As well they managed to create some “whistleblower” profiles. The important activities were not what they were doing IN the lab but rather OUTSIDE it.

    One of the (many) goals of the pandemic narrative is to further geopolitical tension. Have the sheeple bleating about China further cements the idea that covid-19 is dangerous when it is nothing more than a gigantic and meaningless rebranding of everything from flu, to pneumonia, ARDS and sepsis per the WHO clinical definition. Yes, pneumonia has ALWAYS and will ALWAYS be dangerous for some people as well as those who are denied early treatment to prevent secondary infections from developing.

  27. @Wizard of Oz

    “one could guess that the accidental bombing of London was intended to trigger exactly the revenge attacks Churchill could be counted on to order.”

    The British initiated the anti civilian bombing, this is irrefutable, it was decided long before the start of WW2 by the Brits that they would engage in what can only be describes as terrorist bombing,

    Check out the Lindemann plan,

    That’s why the RAF had these huge inter city bombing planes and they didn’t just start building them in 1940,

    Churchill didn’t ‘retaliate’ and in fact was really surprised at the lack of flack his government received from the general public when the Germans did officially return the favour, this was because they just didn’t know of the disgraceful behaviour of Churchill and his government in starting the dreadfulness of murdering men women and children from the safety of the skies.

  28. Alfred says:

    Why is it so difficult for people to understand that nationality, race and religion are not the only things that distinguish us from one another?

    The differences between Trump, Biden, Johnson, Macron, Trudeau, Merkel, Xi and others is a lot less than the differences between each of them and their respective truck drivers.

    The whole thing was obviously planned by the ruling class from A to Z. Where does the country enter into this?



    Video Link

    • LOL: Olivier1973
    • Replies: @Olivier1973
  29. Anonymous[377] • Disclaimer says:
    @Biff

    Unfortunately, Rumble doesn’t work for me. The player interface shows up but it won’t play. Maybe it’s my VPN or settings but every other video portal works and this Kushner-approved website shouldn’t be the only choice anyway

    Just to clarify: I only tried the link. The embed is blocked by my privacy plugins so I won’t use it. Embeds are not supposed to collect data IMO.

  30. BlackFlag says:
    @James1488

    But there’s no evidence that it came from the lab. See what the Australian research said about the Wuhan lab — nobody sick, extremely high level safety protocols. And biowarfare probably wouldn’t be conducted at an open, well-known lab like the Wuhan one.

    Maybe it came from a secret lab? Less likely US would have moles in that lab and if the Chinese had known about it that early they likely would have been able to stop the spread of the virus quickly.

  31. Anonymous[236] • Disclaimer says:
    @ThereisaGod

    Are you saying you don’t believe Covid exists?

  32. @Da's Reich

    I’m sorry I inadvertently offered someone the chance to take off on a tangent unrelated to the point I was making. However, let me note that, while I have lost much of my admiration for Churchill in recent years of reading and thinking I think your assertions have little merit. There was never – from the German shelling of Yorkshire towns in November 1914 and Zepellin raids on Lodon – to which one can add the bombing of Guernica and Warsaw and the treatment of civilians in Poland – that bombing of cities, for want of accurate bomb aiming if for no other reason – was going to take place. And civilian deaths could have been avoided by evacuation of the cities to tents in the countryside which was more option than merchant seamen were getting as the German navy tried to starve Britain of necessary food imports. I suppose I should be grateful that my POW father wasn’t Russian so allowed to live or captured by the SS Das Reich division and summarily shot.

  33. @Truth Vigilante

    Montagnier was a great man and sad for all of us to see his position vacated. I would be very interested if anybody could link a quality article on his work that goes at least back to before HIV.

    “Very close to a smoking gun.” I cannot argue with that.

    One of the canned goods companies had a television commercial many years ago promoting their canned pineapple (Dole? somebody like that) where they had the actor being interrogated by off-camera narrator on if it tastes like fresh pineapple. Very close? Very very close? Very very very close? Exactly?

    Very close to fresh pineapple!

  34. Counter “terror” uses ad hominem, gas lighting, limited hangout, to pretend and mislead.

    Matt Lazarus do you not agree? So did Dr. Martin contaminate the well with the crap you cited?

    Whatever Dr Martin is, it does not change the good stuff he brings to the fore, namely the blatant misleading medical fraud and government sponsored terror.

    [MORE]

    Coercion is terrorism: remember the Patriot Act, Chertoff et al. These guys are terrorists:
    Lucky Larry Silverstein is a government sponsored terrorist!
    Neocons are terrorists!

    Dr. Martin loves to quote Alex Dazhak who is on record saying “investors will follow the hype..”?
    Daszak, Fauci, Baric conspired to convert a harmless virus into a highly infectious bio weapon and then engineer a deadly MRNA therapeutic to kill people coerced to take a shot which is worse than useless. Fake PCR diagnosis works to incite terror!

    Plain as day: terrorists in govt. The UK govt and EU committees set up psychological strategies to counter “vaccine hesitancy”…..just as 9/11 complicity was countered by reference to “ridiculous conspiracy theories”.

    Is gain of function research not terrorism? Fauci created AIDS with the use of AZT & the PCR test…..repeat with COVID Remdesivir & ventilators…..fraudulent suppression of HCQ by the Lancet. Can you see an elaborate psy op? Think 9/11.

    Misleading medical advice is fraud and a violation of Federal regs: so very simple and clear.

    Yet the government is captured by the terrorists as was the Warren Comission. These Mason’s use the same plays…they work because the Mason’s have captured the body politic, the police, the agencies, and the voting machines. Dominion voting Systems is not called “Dominion” for nothing!

    Trudeau is the terrorist by requiring the bio weapon jab the real killer.

    Masks are the psy-op, signifying a useless submission to government sponsored terror, a la London bombings on 7/7….. Clever Mason’s at work.

    These are Masonic hierarchies under the evil crown and they masquerade as democratic institutions misdirecting all.

  35. Jiminy says:

    It makes me wonder what the jewish businessman, Frank Lowy, knew before he sold up his massive Westfield empire for 32 billion dollars just before covid hit. Lowy of course was a partner to Silverstein, who together were involved in the twin towers debacle way back. Lowy fortuitously chose an opportune time to leave the shopping centre business on a high. The French company that bought Westfield have already stated that they won’t be paying investors dividends until at least 2023.

  36. Covid-19 does not exist, it has never been isolated, the flu and colds and pneumonia exist and all have been labeled as covid-19 in one of the biggest scams and psyops and genocide operations in the history of the world.

    Wuhan is a diversion, to give credibility to the false narrative, and this entire scam and psyop and genocide operation is a product of the Rockefeller and Gates Foundations and UN Agenda 2030 and the WEF and the WHO and all the zionist owned central banks, the FED, the Bank of Canada and the Bank of England etc..

    This is a zionist globalist genocide operation using the MRNA genocide injections which change the DNA and destroy the immune system and are as the head of Bayer said, they are a gene therapy, not a vaccine. This MRNA gene therapy is designed to kill, that is the end game, depopulate the planet.

  37. @James1488

    I am sure the Chinese don’t care about the difference between CIA and DIA spies. But of course continue to dwell on your fantasy of omnipotence. It is helpful.

  38. Ron Unz says:
    @James1488

    It is obvious that the DIA had informants inside the lab and new within hours that an accident had happened.

    Except that the secret DIA report was supposedly based upon satellite imagery. At the time the report was being produced, there were probably about a dozen people starting to feel a little sick in a city of 11 million. I really doubt that our satellites would have noticed anything.

    I’ve discussed this particular issue at considerable detail in one of my articles:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-covid-epidemic-as-lab-leak-or-biowarfare/#trying-to-disguise-a-smoking-gun

    You might want to read my entire series:

    https://www.unz.com/page/covid-biowarfare-articles/

  39. @Biff

    And here’s an excellent link to a thread that chronicles the entire Covid-19 saga, along with protocols to cure yourselves of Covid and/or the vaccine poison.

    http://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2020/03/07/the-dirty-secrets-behind-covid-19/

  40. On Feb 7th, I posted a comment, #134, to “Podcast Interviews: Geopolitics & Empire, Red Ice TV”, by Ron Unz. I had hoped Ron would notice and integrate this missed element into his analysis.

    Did he see the comment? I can’t say. But I think it an important piece of the puzzle, so I’m reposting it here.

    ***********************************************************

    Ron,

    There is an aspect missing in your bioweapons case:

    All major countries have large, and presumably highly-skilled intelligence agencies. China can be no exception.

    1. Chinese intelligence would have been aware in detail of the US bioweapons capability.

    2. They most certainly would have had an in-depth familiarity with Kadlec’s writings on the all aspects of bioweapons theory and use.

    3. They would have known, at minimum, of the previous use of African swine flu virus against the Cuban pork production in the 70s.

    4. Then too, they would have noted and paid attention to the gain-of-function bat corona virus research being funded by the US in the Wuhan lab. Since gain-of-function research is simply bioweapons research “rebranded” as defensive research, I have to assume that they would have been particularly attentive to that activity.

    5. With Kadlec brought into the Trump administration in 2017, Fauci resuming GoF research in Wuhan in 2017, and then Kadlec conducting the Crimson Contagion exercise in 2019, the Chinese must have looked very hard at these facts, particularly after the bird flu of 2017 and the swine flu of 2018.

    6. Finally, in the context of a bioweapons attack, the GoF research at Wuhan looks to have played the crucial role of providing a “patsy” for the source of the virus. (Did Ralph Baric of EcoHealth Alliance have connections to US intel? Was he the intel intermediary who went to Fauci and suggested the resumption of GoF reasearch at Wuhan?)

    Now I can’t say how smart Chinese intel is, but I would guess ***VERY*** smart. Smart enough to have put these pieces together. And if they did, they would have seen this attack coming and recognized it instantly for what it was. As such, they would have been prepared with a defensive strategy, which would explain how they were immediately ready to respond with the extreme measures they employed to stamp out the virus.

    Bonus element; psychopath Pompeo was CIA head before moving to State. He is just the guy to execute a bioweapons attack.

    In summary, what it seems you have left out of your analysis is the role of Chinese intel.

    ****************************************************

  41. The theses of Mr. Unz’ hypothesis can be summarized thus:

    1. U.S. intelligence reports as early as November of 2019 indicated a viral outbreak had occurred in Wuhan, China.

    2. If those reports occurred before an actual outbreak had occurred, it would be a strong indication that U.S. intelligence, or some subset of it, had caused the outbreak.

    However, there is considerable evidence, presented by the independent open intelligence group, https://drasticresearch.org, that the outbreak had occurred by early October. A paper summarizing that evidence can be found here:

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/355373689_The_October_Surprise_in_Wuhan

    There is also evidence that an extensive set of online files as to viral studies at the Wuhan Institute of Virology had occurred between September 12 and 30, 2019. Those files remain offline. A paper summarizing that evidence can be found here:

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/349073738_An_investigation_into_the_WIV_databases_that_were_taken_offline

    These two sets of evidence, taken together, would indicate that spread of the virus was noted in China and elsewhere between September and October of 2019, before the U.S. intelligence reports of November, and would tend to falsify thesis #2 of the Unz hypothesis. Further, the removal of online files of viruses similar to SARS-COV2 a full month before reports of the virus began, are a strong indicium that both the WIV and the PRC knew of the initial viral release before the outbreak became noticeable.

    The fact that the PRC has also, since the WHO announcement of the outbreak of SARS-COV2 in January of 2020, hampered if not prevented further investigation of viral research at the WIV, are also indications that the PRC knows a lot more about the outbreak than it is willing to reveal to the world.

    On the basis of the information presently available to me, and from drasticresearch.org in particular, the most reasonable hypothesis is an initial lab leak occurred at one of the three viral institutes at Wuhan (including the WIV) in mid-September, that spread to the city of Wuhan had occurred by the middle of October, and, since Wuhan is an international travel hub, to the rest of the world thereafter.

    This is not to say, however, that the U.S. was blameless in all this. There is extensive evidence (also available at drasticresearch.org and elsewhere) of extensive coordination of viral research, including gain-of-function research, between the NiH, etc. and the WIV, from at least 2007 onward.

    Have a nice day.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Ron Unz
  42. Yahoo News, August 3 2021 – House Foreign Affairs Republicans concluded the World Military Games in Wuhan in October 2019 was “one of the earliest super spreader events” during the pandemic, with their new report contending COVID-19 escaped from a Wuhan lab in late August or early September 2019 — with China covering it up for months.

    https://news.yahoo.com/gop-report-says-october-2019-110000947.html

    Planeloads of athletes from 109 countries were flying home from China with symptoms of a viral flu.

  43. @RZ

    Yes. Everything from the MSM or other ‘official sources’ I always first run through my what-am-I-supposed-to-believe filter,

  44. Ron Unz says:
    @Jeff Davis

    In summary, what it seems you have left out of your analysis is the role of Chinese intel.

    Thanks for the comment, but I’m extremely skeptical of that analysis.

    There seems absolutely overwhelming evidence that the central Chinese authorities only became aware of the viral outbreak at the very end of December, and indeed the local authorities lost nearly a week in January before they began to take effective steps to control it prior to the movement of 450 million Chinese during the Lunar New Year holiday. If they’d delayed their unprecedented lockdown even just a week or two, the epidemic probably would have become completely uncontrollable.

    Given these very serious early Chinese missteps, which might have led to disaster, I find it very unlikely that they had any foreknowledge of a pending American biowarfare attack.

    Both Chinese and American intelligence services can easily make mistakes.

    • Agree: Sarah
    • Replies: @Jeff Davis
  45. Anonymous[408] • Disclaimer says:
    @ThereisaGod

    Yes. My gut/intuition tells me that the the capability of creating/manipulating pathogenic organisms is likely vastly overstated — a great way to loot the treasury. On the other hand, environmental toxins exist, we know that exposure to non-ionizing radiation interferes with respiration on a cellular level (Arthur Firstberg *The Invisible Rainbow*). Also don’t forget the Anthropological context of fear (so-called evil spirits) and ritual purity. The word ‘virus’ predates the vesicles fixed with osmium tetroxide and imaged by electron microscopy.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  46. BlackFlag says:
    @Ron Unz

    The DIA would lie about their information source in order to protect their mole. Though the lie would be a poor one as it would be obvious to Chinese counterintelligence that the information could not have come from satellite imagery.

    • Agree: Wizard of Oz
  47. Ron Unz says:

    It might be useful for me to summarize my analysis in simple bullet-point format:

    (1) Over the decades America has spent \$100 billion creating the world’s largest biowarfare capability.

    (2) In 2017 Trump brings on board Robert Kadlec, who had been America’s leading biowarfare advocate since the late 1990s.

    (3) In 2018 and 2019 mysterious viral epidemics devastate China’s poultry and pork industries, severely damaging China’s food supply.

    (4) From January to August, Kadlec runs the Federal/State “Crimson Contagion” exercise in which our government officials practice their strategies of protecting American society from infection by a hypothetical dangerous respiratory virus that suddenly might appear in China.

    (5) Late October, 300 American military servicemen visit Wuhan to participate in the World Military Games.

    (6) Late October/Early November, Patient Zero in Wuhan becomes infected with Covid. The virus spreads invisibly until the Chinese government discovers its presence near the end of December. The Chinese government finally reacts in mid-January.

    (7) Early January, America assassinates Iran’s top military leader, with an Iranian retaliatory missile strike nearly leading to war.

    (8) Mid/Late January, the Wuhan virus suddenly jumps 3,500 miles to the Holy City of Qom, soon infecting Iran’s top political elites, with a number of them dying as a consequence. By February, Iran has become the second global epicenter of the Covid outbreak despite having an minuscule Chinese population, while the later outbreaks in Italy and Spain are in locations with hundreds of thousands of Chinese.

    (9) Early March, the Iranian government publicly accuses America of having launched a biowarfare attack with Covid against Iran and China, including a formal complaint to the UN. Virtually no Western media reports those accusations, so almost no Americans are aware of them.

    (10) Early April, four intelligence sources tell ABC News that a secret November DIA report described a “potentially cataclysmic” disease outbreak taking in Wuhan, but this had been ignored by the Trump Administration. Israeli TV confirms that Israel received that report, which had been produced “in the second week of November.” According to best estimates, perhaps a dozen people in Wuhan, a city of 11 million, were starting to feel a little sick at that point in time.

    • Thanks: Sarah
  48. Anonymous[408] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Can we say that the China/not China ambiguity might not be what Peter Dale Scott termed a ‘deep state signature’ much like the Oswald Soviet Union thing?

    In any case, I think the reactions to the video are more intriguing than the video itself.

  49. Ron Unz says:
    @Bernard Brandt

    However, there is considerable evidence, presented by the independent open intelligence group, https://drasticresearch.org, that the outbreak had occurred by early October. A paper summarizing that evidence can be found here:

    I’ll take a look at that lengthy 146 page PDF, but when I quickly glanced at it, I think some of their claims had already been thoroughly refuted by me in a long article I published several months ago:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-covid-epidemic-as-lab-leak-or-biowarfare/

    Anyway, my impression of the Drastic group is that they’re disingenuous and almost fraudulent. As far as I know, they’ve never even seriously explored the possibility of the Wuhan outbreak being an American biowarfare attack, or mentioned almost any of the bullet-points I raised upthread.

    If they want to argue that the lab-leak scenario is much more likely than the biowarfare attack scenario, that’s perfectly fine. But if they totally ignore the possibility of the latter, they’re obviously just dishonest shills, whose credibility is enormously diminished.

    In fact, a couple of months ago, I carefully read and analyzed all the main Covid origins books that have now appeared, most of them heavily based upon the Drastic research, and here’s my discussion of them, focusing on the “Crimestop” they all display:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-confronting-covid-crimestop/

  50. Yes, Mr. Unz. And your own analysis indicates that the chronology was that China reported Patient Zero in late October, and that the U.S. intelligence report occurred in November. Even by that standard, the November report would be consistent with discovery of an event, rather than causation of that event.

    And, as I have posted elsewhere, there is extensive evidence indicating that the initial release may have occurred in mid-September, with the knowledge of the WIV and PRC; and with later outbreak in mid-October or earlier.

    I would suggest that you actually examine that evidence before you reject it.

  51. @Ron Unz

    Thanks Ron! Your bullet points collectively clarified the misconstruction in my head completely.
    Ben

  52. @Ron Unz

    This Harvard study showed a significant YoY increase in traffic to hospitals in Wuhan in late summer/fall of 2019, much earlier than the military games in Oct 2019 in Wuhan.

    https://abcnews.go.com/International/satellite-data-suggests-coronavirus-hit-china-earlier-researchers/story?id=71123270

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  53. Ron Unz says:
    @ConfusedReader

    This Harvard study showed a significant YoY increase in traffic to hospitals in Wuhan in late summer/fall of 2019, much earlier than the military games in Oct 2019 in Wuhan.

    The Harvard “study” was just garbage, and I already provided upthread the link to the section of my old article discussing it:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-covid-epidemic-as-lab-leak-or-biowarfare/#trying-to-disguise-a-smoking-gun

  54. Alden says:
    @Patrick McNally

    Everything from the covid hoax to the impeachment effort to George Floyd that was in the MSM from January 2019 was done to prevent Trump from re election

  55. SafeNow says:

    I write on the subject of who had early knowledge that an unusually severe respiratory virus was afoot, and that the source was China. I live quite near what must surely be the Chinese-American massage parlor capital of The U.S.

    During December of 2019, some masseuses were masked-up. Some of these women had just returned from a visit to China, or had had contact with someone who had. The sample size I had indirect knowledge of was small. But mask use was a measure that was apparently extraordinary, not used during past flu seasons, for it would be a serious concern to customers; they would reason that catching the flu would be worse than the lumbar flare-up that had brought them there in the first place. The likelihood of flu transmission would clearly be high in a small enclosed space.

    If the above phenomenon was widespread, it surprises me that knowledge of it did not immediately trickle-up to health authorities.

    • Replies: @Sisifo
  56. d dan says:
    @James1488

    “It is obvious that the DIA had informants inside the lab and new within hours that an accident had happened.”

    It is “obvious”? Right, “obvious” to who? And the alleged informants “new” [“knew”] an accident happened “within hours”, even before Xi Jinping? And they also immediately knew the gravity and seriousness of the “accident” to note it in the report. And they knew the “accident” would cause a pandemic in Wuhan, and it was worthy of warning to the President of US, and…

    Whenever Ron Unz brings this bio-attack theory up, we consistently see some first-time commenters appear to give various “explanations” to tell how “logical” the existence of the report must be. One wonders if the report didn’t exist, why the constant need to “explain” its existence? I don’t even remember all the stupid “explanations” I have heard, e.g.

    1. The Wuhan local government actually knew the disease. They just didn’t report to Beijing. So, it was easy for US intelligence to pick it up.
    2. US intelligence used satellite images to check the visits to Wuhan hospitals to predict the outbreak.
    3. US intelligence checked the pattern of search engines when they detected unusual surge of words like “fever”, or similar words. This was US intelligence supposed “expertise”
    4. US intelligence had local doctor informants in the Wuhan hospitals, they have whistle blowers within the government, blah, blah, blah.

    And now they also have informant within the lab! Can’t wait to hear Xi himself is the informant.

  57. MrE3001 says:

    Midwits are still clinging to germ theory like a desperate woman left at the alter. Wake the fuck up already, people. Stop listening to hypochondriac jews obsessed with imaginary viruses.

    • Replies: @walker
  58. Emslander says:
    @James1488

    Fauci had the virus all cooked up and he released it on orders just in time to deep six the pseudo-populist President and allow the FED to pump trillions of phony dollars into the collapsing debtor economy. Exactly the opposite of Mr. Unz’s fantasy land theory.

  59. I recall the surrounding context of these allegations of what Ron is saying means foreknowledge of the virus before it had started circulating in a major way. At this point, the C19 timeline had not yet been firmly established, and US propaganda was trying to pin an earlier date for the Chinese government knowing about C19, so as to accuse the Chinese government of a slow response, perhaps even misconduct. The Israeli affirmation later does not mean much, just that they were participants in this campaign. For such a widely spread document (Israel, all Nato allies), it has not been leaked and likely does not exist.

    What you have here is not a smoking gun, but propaganda blowback which had unfortunate implications outside of the original context under which it was originally produced. Nathan Rich made a C19 timeline on YouTube, perhaps the first person to do so with thorough detail. It’s worth watching.

  60. @d dan

    Whereas, I come to this website expecting to reading fairly deeply-informed theories, sourced info and some macro picture ideas about various topics and am usually not disappointed — the Covid commentary on UR has been bizarre for awhile, imo.

    There must be a heapload of disinfo and misdirection trolls on here, like James1488 who is a newbie with only two total comments.

    Anyone paying consistent attention and sourcing info widely the last two years can easily discern that Covid was a joint effort by many Western countries (whether by choice or coercion) and the WEF with the goal being to launch the Global Reset. This thing has been years, more like decades, in the planning. See my comments #56 and #3.

    All the bickering about the stupid lab in Wuhan and who got the Covid ball rolling is DISTRACTING everyone from the true intent of its release and from what lies ahead!

    More shit is ahead, that’s what. More draconian limitations, insidious authoritarianism and engineered death. So, when are we going to talk about what we’ll do about THAT?

    • Replies: @Emslander
    , @ld
  61. 4chan was posting videos from Chinese hospitals in November 2019. There was all sorts of discussions regarding a virus that was overwhelming the hospitals in China and that people were dropping dead. Many such videos of hospital staff being overcome. Then there were the videos of the disinfectant being sprayed and people being locked in their homes. Dead bodies being carried out and loaded into vans. Big LULZ.

  62. Dear Ron,

    When you claim that A B and C died of “Covid” and that there have been 1 million American deaths from “Covid”, what, exactly, do you mean?

    Do you mean that people have died of the flue, pneumonia, natural causes, medically induced death and perhaps unknown targeted bioweapons?

    Or do you mean that people have died from a “virus” named “Sars CoV 2” that has never been isolated and never proved to exist and for which there is no test— and is the subject of the biggest propaganda campaign the world has ever known?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  63. Alita99 says:

    “Virus Mania: Corona/COVID-19, Measles, Swine Flu, Cervical Cancer, Avian Flu, SARS, BSE, Hepatitis C, AIDS, Polio, Spanish Flu: How the Medical Industry Continually Invents Epidemics, Making Billion-Dollar Profits At Our Expense” is also worth a look.

  64. walker says:
    @MrE3001

    How much more obvious could it be that there is NO COVID?

    • Replies: @Ralph B. Seymour
  65. @Desert Fox

    Isn’t it the same with AIDS: is there any new symptom or disease that didn’t exist before they came up with this concept? So if you fail an HIV test then any illness from pneumonia to cancer suddenly becomes AIDS, just as if you fail a PCR test your respiratory disease/ flu symptoms suddenly become Covid-19. So yeah, Covid-19 is airborne AIDS, in a way.

  66. Emslander says:
    @The Real World

    Anyone paying consistent attention and sourcing info widely the last two years can easily discern that Covid was a joint effort by many Western countries (whether by choice or coercion) and the WEF with the goal being to launch the Global Reset. This thing has been years, more like decades, in the planning. See my comments #56 and #3.

    RFK, Jr., among others, outlines the twenty-year development of this plan as it morphs smoothly into the false actuality of the Fauci pandemic hysteria. It’s the last chapter of the “Real Anthony Fauci” book. I’m sure others have written of it, as well. It’s just the one I read and it’s very well substantiated.

  67. Olivier1973 says: • Website
    @Alfred

    alien technology, elements up to atomic #140, alien metals

    Well, all this is ridiculous.

  68. republic says:
    @ArthurBiggs

    Would you please send me a link to those videos on 4chan from 2019.
    I just looked at 4chan for November 2019 and did not see such videos.

  69. Abbybwood says:
    @Patrick McNally

    I read a while back that when the Red Cross checked blood samples from November 2019 they discovered Covid.

    Some intrepid journalist could do a deep dive on this and get information confirming.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  70. Magic bullets and MRNA and Masonic Crown controlled Hierarchies:

    Remember the huge debates as to whether or not 9/11 was caused by planes or controlled demolition.

    Did you believe the magicians or your own lying eyes?

    Did you think One MAGIC bullet killed Kennedy and wounded Connolly as determined by a coroner who had never performed an autopsy doing the autopsy on a dead President?

    These were details debated ad nauseam in order to distract from THE COVER-UP which is and was not debateable in its clarity of demonstration of who the perps really, really were and are.

    The perpetrators incriminated themselves with their obvious acts of misdirection:
    Phillip Zelikow drafted the OBVIOUSLY FRAUDULENT 9/11 Commission Report, and by SO DOING proves his complicity in a government orchestrated false flag terrorist attack!

    A repeat of the obviously fraudulent Warren Commission. The same playbook as they say.

    Dr. David Martin whatever you may think of him, describes in Chapter & Verse the same government complicity with regard to the COVID false flag.

    In their own words the perpetrators have shown themselves to be frauds and traitors……

    All the rest, the complex details are smoke and mirrors; the magic tricks of high degree Masons controlled by an EVIL CROWN & the UGLE.

    Mr. Unz you have written exhaustively on these smokey details… But……Examine the patents, the laws regarding fraudulent medical advice and coercion to terrorize American citizens, the paper trail of emails from Fauci to Ralph Baric and Peter Dazack which are all described eloquently by Dr. David E. Martin on bitchute. Is he tricking us too?

    Is there any doubt in your objective opinion that COVID is another psy-op to fool us into accepting tyranny?

    The PCR tests are factually fraudulent: the science is settled.

    So after this fact the rest of the pandemic theory collapses and will continue to collapse. Even Mr. Bourla, Pfizer’s CEO declares categorically that the MRNA “vaccines” do not work.

    And if there is fraud there is no indemnity from damage caused by fake medicine!

    Can anyone conclude otherwise than that this whole operation has been State sponsored by captured government agencies intent on transforming the world into a global dictatorship…..Hitler’s Fourth Reich maybe?

    Are Justin, Joe Sleepy, Boris and Emanuel, Jacinda and Andrews useful idiots? My guess is they are idiots for sure, how useful, I hope more useless than useful.

  71. @Ron Unz

    How can it be a bio weapon, if it is not more harmful that the 2017/18 influenza?
    From Poland: Polish Ministry of Health data, weekly deaths:

    red line = deaths recorded
    green line = ten years average
    yellow line = ten years average plus “deaths due to covid”

    It makes no sense Mr Unz.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  72. @ArthurBiggs

    Arthur – This was a short comment string posted below an article on Alex Berenson’s Substack about Feb 8, 2022 that I found very interesting.

    [MORE]

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    — Mike
    It’s not rocket science.

    I picked up on two factors. One, the predicted death rate from the geometric model I did using the WHO CFR and Los Alamos National Laboratory R0, didn’t happen.

    Two, I’ve been in earthworks for 30 years and all those excavators doing a dance in China clearing ground for the temporary hospitals, well, I do that with a CAT D10 dozer with towed vibrating roller compactor in half a day.

    — Agfairfield
    Can you explain what the second part of this comment means? Sounds interesting.

    — Mike
    The diggers?

    You simply don’t have dozens of excavators working within each others turning circle clearing ground. You stick one good sized dozer on it, a 30-tonnd excavator loading excess material to 25 or 30 tonne rear tipping articulated dumpers, that haul and tip to a stockpile. Self-propelled roller compactors compact the ground to finished level and/or the dozer tows and roller compactor.

    China has the most construction plant in the World. They couldn’t find a dozer?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    So, that guy, Mike, claims he could instantly tell that the supposed rushed hospital construction videos in China, in early 2020, were fake based on his decades of experience in such matters.

  73. Sam J. says:

    “…The ABC News report “US intelligence agencies warned of virus in November”…”

    And who owns CBS?

    DO they think we are all idiots (don’t answer that).

    It’s obvious it’s Jew misdirection.

    No one but the Jews had the motive to release covid. No one but the Jews controlled the vax system. No one but the Jews controlled the media. No one but the Jews controlled the politicians to cove it up.

    How likely is it that the CIA and defense establishment of the US decided, well let’s just kill off all of our countrymen?

    How likely is it that the Chinese decided, well let’s just kill off millions of our countrymen and maybe it will kill some Americans?

    No the only people able to cover this up with the control of the technical assets and propaganda and have in the past practiced genocide is the Jews.

  74. ld says:

    Kudos Ron
    You had it right all along.
    Brilliant reporting.
    Thank you for the light in this long dark tunnel

  75. On numerous occasions from about Sept 2019 to Dec 2019 or later, Anne Schuchat, former principal deputy director at CDC and “go-to” expert at CDC for the SARS crisis, spoke and testified about “vaping” as cause of “lung injuries”

    https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2019/t1108-telebriefing-vaping.html

    Schuchat was scheduled to be interviewed by Yahoo’s financial affairs reporter Andy Serwer on Mar 19 2019

    Only several days earlier, then-VP Mike Pence had been appointed to head the team to confront Covid.
    After having approved Schuchat’s appearance with the Yahoo journalist, Pence abruptly canceled the permission and the interview.

    https://www.yahoo.com/now/mike-pences-office-abruptly-cancels-cdc-officials-interview-with-yahoo-finance-201712184.html

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  76. @James1488

    Have you overlooked the fact that the intelligence report as quoted by the ABC as of November was just not true- not even close – as I noted above? Doesn’t that call for explanation?

  77. ld says:
    @Patrick McNally

    one more opportunity to stick it to trump
    trumpdidit

    doesn’t mean he didn’t know

  78. ld says:
    @The Real World

    only the willfully ignorant cannot see this by now.
    buyer’s remorse perhaps?

  79. @Ron Unz

    I would be interested to know your response to my #14 not least where I say in the second of my 4 numbered pars

    The ABC reports referred to reports in November of “disease sweeping through China” and “changing patterns of life in China”. Oops! Just not true or even close in November so at least you need to have an explanation for why it was said. Maybe, as I tentatively suggested the particular agency was behaving desperately to get itself noticed but that isn’t much help in finding the truth.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @Ron Unz
  80. @Wizard of Oz

    OK- to use a fortune teller’s trick one could suppose that it was necessary to alert the US or be able to say it had but also to be able to say it was all just a bizarre fabrication…..

  81. @Wizard of Oz

    Dunce of Oz writes:

    I have lost much of my admiration for Churchill ….

    What sort of warped sense of morality would someone have to STILL possess some degree of admiration for this worthless man – arguably among the greatest criminals of the 20th century ?

    Winston Churchill (aka the Butcher of Bengal), was unaffectionately called a drunken poltroon by FDR. This man was directly responsible for the needless loss of life of countless hundreds of thousands of British and Commonwealth troops, not to mention the even greater number of German, British and French civilians that died in the subsequent bombing campaigns.
    He squandered Britain’s wealth and his actions resulted in loss of empire.

    Churchill had absolutely no redeeming features and could always be counted on to prostitute himself to the highest bidder.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  82. @James1488

    NO recent history from a lying, racist, Sinophobe disinformer troll.

    • Troll: Clyde
  83. @JWalters

    They didn’t do it-the MOSSAD Israeli ‘art students’ did the demolition work.

    • Replies: @JWalters
  84. @Wojciech Garbacz

    Chinese response-five thousand dead. US response-nearly a million. And that with China being the first country to encounter the disease and having no knowledge, from the experience of others, of how to respond. All in all a gigantic disaster and an example of Chalmers Johnson’s ‘blowback’.

    • Replies: @Wojciech Garbacz
  85. JWalters says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    And an artful job it was, with precision-timed flashes of light and towering clouds of dust.

  86. JWalters says:
    @The Real World

    I agree that the Five Eyes and other western “democracies” are “in on it” in a sense, because they’re all controlled by the banking cartel headquartered in the City of London, with major branches such as Wall Street in other countries. This is a Jewish supremacist cartel, hence it is rendering all these countries subservient to its interest in Israel. The Israelis do the dirtiest jobs these other subservient countries’ politicians aren’t willing to do.

    But I think Russia and China are resisting being sucked into this Jewish supremacist financial empire. They have to go along with some things because they don’t want to be entirely cut off economically from the west. So they’re doing a dance.

    A book called Currency Wars, which explained the history and tactics of the London cartel, was a best seller in Asia and Eastern Europe in t the early 2000’s. So the Chinese and Russians became fully aware of the financial beast they are battling, and both are making their banking systems independent of the London gang’s central banking chokehold and scams.

    The US and the other western countries need to do the same. Dump Israel and its Jewish supremacist bankster mafia.
    “War Profiteers and Israel’s Bank”
    https://warprofiteerstory.blogspot.com/p/war-profiteers-and-israels-bank.html

    • Agree: Truth Vigilante
    • Thanks: The Real World
  87. JWalters says:
    @Patrick McNally

    Trump told Bob Woodward early on that the virus was air-borne and dangerous, while he was still telling the public it was no big deal.

    I agree with the view that this was all planned before Trump came into office. He was largely out of the loop, and in over his head. And even if he intended to take down the (Deep State) Jewish supremacist bankers who control the Establishment (politicians and press), he didn’t have the capacity to actually do it.

  88. @walker

    Yes, Covid is obviously a fiction.

    But Ron continues to believe the propaganda. Go figure.

    • Replies: @dogbumbreath
  89. Sisifo says:
    @ThereisaGod

    Problem is, many scientist opposed to the mainstream pandemic narrative are still afraid of this last step, debating the germ theory is much more dangerous than saying that covid is a bad flu.

  90. @Truth Vigilante

    Even the ironic use of “Truth” in your moniker should entail a better memory. “Butcher of Bengal” is of course ridiculous when he is blamed for diversion of ships or of grain.

    And “drunken bum” was what Roosevelt is sometimes quoted as calling Churchill.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  91. Ron Unz says:
    @ArthurBiggs

    4chan was posting videos from Chinese hospitals in November 2019. There was all sorts of discussions regarding a virus that was overwhelming the hospitals in China and that people were dropping dead. Many such videos of hospital staff being overcome.

    From everything I’ve read, the huge barrage of all those anti-China propaganda-videos began in mid-January. That’s suspiciously early, but not precognition-ridiculous like November.

    And it’s pretty clear that all those videos were total fakes produced by anti-China activists and anti-China organizations to make stupid people believe that the Covid virus was destroying China.

    Now those same stupid people blame China for the anti-China propaganda-videos.

  92. Sisifo says:
    @SafeNow

    But mask use was a measure that was apparently extraordinary, not used during past flu seasons, for it would be a serious concern to customers;

    Masks were common sight in any Asian country and all the manicure asian shops around the world since at least the supposed avian flu if not earlier.

  93. Ron Unz says:
    @Ralph B. Seymour

    When you claim that A B and C died of “Covid” and that there have been 1 million American deaths from “Covid”, what, exactly, do you mean?

    This is not a Flu Hoaxery thread, and America has experienced over 1.1 million “excess deaths” beginning in early 2020. Some were suicides, some were homicides, some were car accidents, but probably a million or more were Covid. This is the thread for that discussion:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/covid-deaths-and-vaxxing-deaths/

  94. Clyde says:
    @James1488

    As far as I am concerned, Covid19 came from the Wuhan Virology Lab, that has the PLA as its overseer. The CCP takes its bio-warfare research very seriously. Thus has the PLA running that show.

    This lab leak was probably intentional, with the Wu Flu first mass released and seeded into the international military sports competitions. Held in Wuhan October 2019. The perfect opportunity for the CCP/PLA to spread their gain of function enhanced Covid virus worldwide. By these athletes bringing the virus back home.

  95. Ron Unz says:
    @Abbybwood

    I read a while back that when the Red Cross checked blood samples from November 2019 they discovered Covid.

    Some intrepid journalist could do a deep dive on this and get information confirming.

    No. I carefully analyzed those claims in a section of one of my previous articles. The results were almost certainly due to false positives or other testing errors:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-covid-epidemic-as-lab-leak-or-biowarfare/#false-narratives-based-upon-false-positives

  96. Ron Unz says:
    @Wojciech Garbacz

    How can it be a bio weapon, if it is not more harmful that the 2017/18 influenza?

    I don’t know or care anything about the Covid outbreak in Poland. America had well over a million “excess deaths” beginning in early 2020, and “excess deaths” worldwide have been something like 20 million. It’s not “Just the Flu” and anyone who says so is a fool:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/covid-deaths-and-vaxxing-deaths/

    • Replies: @Dumbo
    , @Wojciech Garbacz
  97. Ron Unz says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    On numerous occasions from about Sept 2019 to Dec 2019 or later, Anne Schuchat, former principal deputy director at CDC and “go-to” expert at CDC for the SARS crisis, spoke and testified about “vaping” as cause of “lung injuries”

    No. The theory that vaping deaths were actually Covid, presumably due to a mid-2019 lab-leak from Ft. Detrick is total garbage, mostly promoted by mediocre pro-China propaganda-activists. I carefully analyzed the claims in a section of one of my articles:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-covid-epidemic-as-lab-leak-or-biowarfare/#promoting-a-ft-detrick-lab-leak-as-a-failure-of-nerve

  98. Ron Unz says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    The ABC reports referred to reports in November of “disease sweeping through China” and “changing patterns of life in China”. Oops! Just not true or even close in November so at least you need to have an explanation for why it was said.

    You’re a remarkably brainless individual.

    The secret DIA report claimed that “a potentially cataclysmic” disease outbreak was occurring in Wuhan, China. The report was purportedly based upon satellite imagery.

    Obviously, the report was actually based upon information provided by the conspirators behind the biowarfare attack. But they couldn’t say, “We know there’s a disease outbreak in Wuhan because we released Covid there” so instead they cooked up some fairy tale about “changing patterns of life in China” that were so dramatic they were visible to satellites.

  99. @Ralph B. Seymour

    Yes…..try posting any “facts” which proves narrative/theory is questionable and it gets censored. Anyway, there is something people need to be made aware of and that’s “Terrain Theory”.

    This doesn’t mean Ron’s bio-weapon attack theory is false. Bio-weapons can be bacteria based.

    • Replies: @Ralph B. Seymour
  100. @Ron Unz

    Noise of new year firecrackers were described as gun fire. Fleeing Chinese peasants were being gunned down. They said.

    I became convinced that war is inevitable.

    No. I’m not a Jew. Really.

  101. Ron Unz says:
    @Bernard Brandt

    However, there is considerable evidence, presented by the independent open intelligence group, https://drasticresearch.org, that the outbreak had occurred by early October. A paper summarizing that evidence can be found here:

    Well, I read the 146 page Drastic PDF and wasn’t particularly impressed. Some of their references were useful and I’ll still need to take a look at those, but much of their analysis seemed rather weak. Most importantly, they totally ignored and excluded the possibility of an American biowarfare attack, thereby demonstrating the sort of “Crimestop” thinking I had harshly criticized in my review of all the Drastic-inspired books:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-confronting-covid-crimestop/

    Here’s just one example. The single most credible eye-witness at the Wuhan Lab was experienced Australian virologist Dr. Danielle Anderson, who was working there at the time, and gave a long interview to Bloomberg describing what she saw, which totally rebuts many of the crucial claims in the article:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2021-06-27/did-covid-come-from-a-lab-scientist-at-wuhan-institute-speaks-out

    Although the interview occurred four months before article was published, it was never mentioned anywhere. Numerous other equally crucial points are also totally omitted. Given that pattern of extremely suspicious omissions, I just don’t trust a word the authors say about anything.

    Moreover, their report also stylistically rubbed me the wrong way, overflowing with totally unnecessary photos and images that added absolutely nothing to their analysis and heavily diluted the flow of their text. I strongly suspect that they’ve spent so much time on Twitter looking at “memes” they’ve somehow come to believe that filling half a page with photos of Ft. Detrick or Wuhan somehow enhances their argument. Dump the stupid pictures and the length of their paper could have been cut by half.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  102. @dogbumbreath

    Yes, I agree.

    I think absolutely that bio-weapons have been used to promote the Covid hoax.

    But they want us to believe in a magic virus that does not exist.

    • Replies: @The_Masterwang
  103. dimples says:
    @dimples

    Really I suppose the modern terminology for the Unz Covid-19 Biowarfare Theory should be the Unz Covid-19 Biowarfare Narrative.

  104. @AntiVaxersUnited

    Now, is this racist, Sinophobic, troll really as pig ignorant and moronic as it makes out, or is he a disinformer looking for rubes? Or both. When NO victims of ‘CCP haemorrhagic fever’ materialise, expect the vermin to move on to new lies.

    • Replies: @AntiVaxersUnited
  105. @Da's Reich

    The USA was planning to destroy Japanese cities ‘…the teeming bamboo ant-heaps of Honshu and Kyushu’, as Chennault called them, from the ’30s, using incendiaries. Mock cities were set alight in the USA, and fire infernos like the famous Peshtigo wildfire of 1871 were studied to improve the efficacy of burning tens of thousands alive. ‘Western Moral Values’ at their finest.

    • Replies: @Da's Reich
  106. @Jeff Davis

    Don’t forget that China suffered US bio-warfare in Korea, in the Korean War. The Chinese were well aware that the Japanese Mengele, Shiro Ishii, he of Unit 731 and live human dissection infamy, had been made welcome in the USA after WW2 in exchange for his ‘research’ findings. A brief look at the USA’s Satanic record of crimes against humanity would be quite familiar to them, too.

  107. @Wizard of Oz

    Dunce of Oz writes:

    Butcher of Bengal” is of course ridiculous when he [Winston Spendthrift Churchill] is blamed …

    Tell that to an Indian and see if you come out of it without a much needed bitch slapping.

    The fact is, that Churchill alone is responsible for the starvation of millions of Bengalis – and it’s not as though said grain was needed in another theatre of war.
    That you continue to defend this swine of a man says a lot about your character (or lack thereof).

    As to the ‘drunken bum’ comment, I’ve already responded to that question in another thread.

    You know, it never ceases to amaze me Dunce of Oz, how you repeatedly set yourself up to be smacked down and humiliated in front of the UR readership, with your poorly researched and fallacious commentary.

    But, if that’s how you get off, I’ll gladly dish out another serve your way and cut you down a few pegs more.

  108. James1488 says:
    @Ron Unz

    ”the worldwide Covid epidemic was caused by an American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran), probably by rogue elements of our national security establishment associated with the Deep State Neocons”
    Against Iran!? As unhinged as some national security elements might be, it’s highly unlikely that they would use a bio-weapon so close to Israel.

    • Replies: @dimples
  109. @Ralph B. Seymour

    Omicron goes out of control and a bunch of people started dying in Hong Kong and refugees are now flooding into China there are so many there’s now a bounty system to deter those refugees.

    And you tell me the magic virus doesn’t exist.

    Yes, less than 1% of the infected die but the panic is far more dangerous. Considering the US just allocated more funds for subversion and terrorism in Hong Kong.

    • Replies: @Ralph B. Seymour
  110. Dumbo says:
    @Ron Unz

    You’re the fool — or most likely a knowing liar, on this issue. I know lots of people who had it (well, “tested positive”) and for 90% of them it was yes, “just like the flu”. Completely mild. For one or two it was a bit more worrying, but also a flu can become more serious. Some “bioweapon!”

    Also talking about “excess deaths” without mentioning the lockdowns, mandates and all other social changes that were OBVIOUSLY negative for society and increased the death rate, while doing little or nothing against “Covid”, is moronic. Do you believe in the effectivity of masks and lockdowns, Mr. Unz? We know you believe in the effectivity of vaccines, even if you’re silent on their side effects and the strange fact that they need to be repeated every six months or so.

    Now, imagine if governments worldwide had just ignored this “bioweapon” or treated it “just like the flu”. Would we have seen all those problems and excess deaths? Would we have seen “billions” of deaths? Very unlikely. It would be just a normal flu season, perhaps a bit higher than normal, but not by much. Of course we’ll never know.

    But Sweden for instance had a very light approach to it and they did and are doing fine. Much better than more crazy countries.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  111. @Ron Unz

    You’re a remarkably brainless individual

    It would be mildly interesting to know what a psychiatrist of some scientific standing and worldly wisdom would make of your occasional eruptions like that. I don’t suppose it is to appeal to the dimwits or incorrigible tunnel visioned to whom UR threads offer generous space. Maybe it is the irritation of a man in a hurry who has made up his mind and really doesn’t want to ne bothered with nitpicking detail.

    The trouble is I had at #13 and elsewhere covered the range of plausible explanations for reports that you had avoided noting were radically false, and accepting correspondingly that an explanation needed to be stated and justified as the one you backed. Instead of dealing with the ABC false version about “sweeping through China “[in November!] and “changing patterns of life in China” you have always used the glib repetition of the word “cataclysmic” (though never accurately sourced) to tell all your readers that the whole intelligence community must have intended some particular result from the alleged warning. I don’t know why you still think you even have a positive piece of evidence now that no Congressional Committee has used FOIA or sub poena to winkle out the truth about the report, if there was one, and no whistle blower turned sensationalist cashing in has come forward. At least I don’t suppose you would deny the villains the smarts needed to coordinate the planting of fake news on ABC and on Israeli TV. (Oh yes. You need an explanation too why only one Israel and one US TV news outlet mentioned it briefly and why we haven’t heard from a NATO source about it).

    You have chosen to give a lame answer to part of my helpful raising of detail you needed to tackle. Now, why not the rest which I repeat below?

    You are pretty good at using your superior numeracy on the comments of people who don’t grasp excess mortality. So what about, for starters, the simple math of what a superspreader returning from Qom to Teheran and fellow Iranian Ayatollahs and MPs could contribute?

    Here’s the origin #13 repeated

    [MORE]

    As I concede that there are reasons why China might choose to let the US suffer the consequences of having stated the disaster without giving it the pasting publicly that Australia has copped for its peccadilloes of disrespect to China I certainly do not wish to discourage the search for truth however bad it is for US prestige and influence. But nothing can be gained by ignoring weaknesses in the case you,Ron, are making, including those where alternative explanations for what you choose to regard as significant t coincidences are available. So….

    1. I invite you to consider the case if Iran as one where one of the Auatollahs returning to Teheran from Qom proved to be a superspreader just like the Korean Christian woman who infected hundreds. Furthermore I question your way of choosing coincidences you think unlikely. It isn’t difficult to invent hundreds. E.g. knowing there was a faction of the Luftwaffe that liked the idea of strategic area bombing as much as Bomber Harris, even without the heavy bombers, one could guess that the accidental bombing of London was intended to trigger exactly the revenge attacks Churchill could be counted on to order.

    2. The ABC reports referred to reports in November of “disease sweeping through China” and “changing patterns of life in China”. Oops! Just not true or even close in November so at least you need to have an explanation for why it was said. Maybe, as I tentatively suggested the particular agency was behaving desperately to get itself noticed but that isn’t much help in finding the truth.

    3. The ABC had several sources but that could easily have been cooked up if one can find a plausible motive. Even the confirmation in Israel might be juust proof that there were smart operators at work. And they could have hoped to capitalise on the recent war game study to throw a bomb which would have a threat of pandemic taken seriously.

    4. Generally it is surprising that more hasn’t come out about the allegedly non existent report by now. Against my theorising it might be thought surprising that someone involved hasn’ said “we threw a bomb. We did our best, but no one did a thing about getting ready for pandemics”. And what about those other anti farming viruses? Why do we not hear more now?

    Good luck with keeping up the scrutiny of US incompetents.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  112. @Ron Unz

    And it’s pretty clear that all those videos were total fakes produced by anti-China activists and anti-China organizations to make stupid people believe that the Covid virus was destroying China.

    All of the “whistleblower” videos produced at that time were fabrications by Falun Gong activists. For example, a “local Wuhan nurse” that claimed in a YT video that people were dropping like flies from coronavirus, yet she spoke Mandarin in a thick Cantonese accent (so from Guangdong, or even more likely, Hong Kong), not like a person from Wuhan at all. The other videos were simply misattributed, generally of people having epileptic fits, and falsely titled “coronavirus victims”. This is when most people did not understand the symptomology of C19, and a lot of people on the right believed that White people had “Aryan immunity” to C19 (including articles in Vdare and by RamZPaul).

    Most of the right got C19 wrong and continue to get it wrong. I think you are wrong about the intelligence community warning because of what I wrote in my previous post. The whole idea behind that was to frame China for lack of action by setting the C19 timeline to a month or two earlier than when it really blew up.

  113. @Ron Unz

    Do we know how much of the work in a large institute Dr Anderson was party to? Do we know that she wasn’t just passing on the very favourable impression she had from working with agreeable English speaking colleagues that had degrees from US and Australian universities? Would she have had any reason not to give Wuhan IV the benefit of the doubt?

  114. Just the same old nonsense. The idea that the US intelligence agencies are solely reliant on what is printed in the Chinese media is laughable.

  115. @Ron Unz

    FWIW I am willing to put mu money where my mouth is and bet you \$10,000 that no proof that the alarmist report existed will ever appear – but let’s put a date on it – say 31st December 2023. Isn’t that a reasonable inference from the late appearance of such a report well designed to damage Trump?

  116. @AntiVaxersUnited

    Because he’s a know-all. The entire fantasy is predicated on his utter ignorance of the geographic proximity of Iran and China, not to mention the BRI.

  117. @anon

    THE SECRET SPEECH OF CHI HAOTIAN

    Many observers suppose that China has no motive for attacking the United States with biological weapons. Yet China’s ruling Communist Party has very strong motives. These are ideological, demographical, and military. Most observers are unaware of defector testimony about a long-range Chinese plan involving secret intelligence and military agreements between China and Russia. According to Col. Stanislav Lunev, a GRU defector who worked in China and spoke fluent Mandarin, the Russians and Chinese formed a secret alliance at the end of the Cold War for the purpose of defeating and occupying the United States and Canada. Lunev was informed of this plan at a meeting of the Russian General Staff after the fall of the Soviet Union. He was told that “the nuclear war plan against America is still on. Russia will invade Alaska and parts of Canada. China will occupy the lower 48 states, with other countries invited in for ‘looting rights.’”[42]

    One might be inclined to dismiss Lunev’s claim, yet evidence of Chinese preparations in Mexico have been percolating up from the borderlands for many years. In Scott Gulbransen’s book, The Silent Invasion, we read about Chinese, Russian and Cuban commandos in the Mexican desert. We read about secret arms shipments through the port of Ensenada and coordination between Mexican criminals and the People’s Liberation Army. In fact, some of Gulbransen’s witnesses were threatened and even murdered. In the course of his investigation, Gulbransen was warned against writing about Chinese activity in Mexico by a Mexican communist, who told Gulbransen, “You tell the fat Americans about the real Mexico. You tell them their day to pay is coming fast. Coming very fast.”

    https://jrnyquist.blog/2022/02/08/four-strategic-puzzle-pieces/#more-8466

    “Tell the fat Americans…” and so I have.

  118. @Ron Unz

    I don’t know or care anything about the Covid outbreak in Poland. America had well over a million “excess deaths” beginning in early 2020, and “excess deaths” worldwide have been something like 20 million. It’s not “Just the Flu” and anyone who says so is a fool

    I did not say it was “just a flu”. I specifically wrote that covid in Poland was not more harmful that the 2017/18 influenza, which was quite severe in terms of mortality.

    We have astonishing number of excess deaths in Poland since November of 2020, however, majority are not because of covid.

    I would expect from biological weapon to be more lethal than severe, but naturally occurring influenza.

  119. @mulga mumblebrain

    Chinese response-five thousand dead. US response-nearly a million. And that with China being the first country to encounter the disease and having no knowledge, from the experience of others, of how to respond. All in all a gigantic disaster and an example of Chalmers Johnson’s ‘blowback’.

    China’s strategy cannot be good as it failed to contain the virus, which has excepted into the entire world.

    • Replies: @JR Foley
  120. @mulga mumblebrain

    Actually there have already been some cases of haemorrhagic fever detected in the UK which were falsely attributed to Africa, just as the Chinese defector warned in her interview. Too bad you don’t have the intellect to understand what she is saying.

    https://www.rt.com/news/548869-uk-ebola-like-virus-detected/

    Here is an interesting interview on the plans your Chinese and Russian Commie friends have for you.

    https://jrnyquist.blog/2022/02/02/end-game-interview-with-man-in-america/#more-8425

  121. @AntiVaxersUnited

    https://jrnyquist.blog/2022/02/08/four-strategic-puzzle-pieces/#more-8466

    “Tell the fat Americans…” and so I have.

    Your link claims that Jewish Russian oligarch Boris Berezovsky was a KGB agent, when Boris Berezovsky had a very public career as an engineer, and was literally famous in the Soviet Union. The link also claims that the fall of the Soviet Union was just cosmetic and they are all still secretly commies. Absurd.

  122. @Dumbo

    Yes, and people do get seriously ill and die from the usual flu. My worry is that if you fail a PCR test (positive) the treatment you get may be different from someone who tests negative and may increase the likelihood of mortality and cause complications (long Covid). Similarly, if you test positive for HIV their treatment protocols could be harmful rather than curative. So even if Covid-19 is just the flu, or a more serious version of the flu, it could be that the PCR test result determines your fate, moreso than the disease itself. This would be of concern and I am not sure to what extent this could be happening. Of course you trust the doctors that they’re doing the best for you given the current knowledge, but are they really, or are they basing their treatment on the results of a possibly flawed test?

    • Replies: @Dumbo
  123. Emslander says:
    @Ron Unz

    “Brainless”, “Fool”, “Stupid”, etc.

    Are those intended to be arguments or just expressions of your frustration?

    Either way, they don’t add anything to the highly unlikely scenario you’ve dogwhipped now for two years.

    I think your web page is suffering from this lack of personal reflection, Mr. Unz.

    • Agree: Ralph B. Seymour
  124. @The_Masterwang

    Dear Masterwang,

    I am without knowledge of the situation in Hong Kong. Enlighten me.

    And tie that into your evidence that “Sars CoV 2” is real– if you have any.

    Thank you for your patience.

    • Replies: @The_Masterwang
  125. Look at this BBC interview with Novak Djokovic:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-60354068

    They felt obligated to offer an “analysis” of the interviews after the interview where they basically said that because billions of people got vaccinated he should also get vaccinated. I don’t feel the question of side effects, or if the vaccines do the job they’re supposed to, i.e. prevent you from getting Covid-19 or ending the pandemic were seriously or adequately addressed.

    • Replies: @Clyde
  126. Dumbo says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Well, it does determine your fate at least in terms of tracking, identification, quarantine measures etc. If it’s a “normal flu” you don’t need to quarantine, go figure. As for treatment protocols, well… I would avoid ventilation and Remdesivir at all costs.

    Of course you trust the doctors that they’re doing the best for you given the current knowledge, but are they really, or are they basing their treatment on the results of a possibly flawed test?

    I don’t know now, but before the vaccines, the protocol was “stay home and do nothing and see no one until you recover or feel really bad and can’t breath, in which case call the ambulance.” At the hospital they would give you supplemental oxygen and antibiotics. If it gets worse, they would put you into a ventilator and kill you. Hopefully they learned some lessons since then and it’s a bit better now.

  127. @Truth Vigilante

    Agreed. Dunce of Oz is completely tone deaf.

    And unlike some uninformed commentary, it’s not even amusing.

  128. @Ralph B. Seymour

    Pretend there’s no epidemic all you like. But stay aways from us.

  129. Ron Unz says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    It would be mildly interesting to know what a psychiatrist of some scientific standing and worldly wisdom would make of your occasional eruptions like that.

    Well, I’d tell him that the individual I was calling “brainless” had just recently been promoting the theory that although both JFK and RFK had been attacked by crazed lone gunmen, each of the Kennedy brothers had actually been accidentally shot and killed by his own armed guards.

    Once I explained that, the psychiatrist would say that I’d been much too kind in my choice of words…

  130. anonymous[371] • Disclaimer says: • Website
    @Patrick McNally

    Yes the allegation of DOD prior knowledge comes from Israel , after Iranian leadership was attacked, track the Israeli front psychological operations:.

    https://www.unz.com/announcement/going-super-viral-and-an-important-rumble-video/#comment-5182493

    The pandemic was a very profitable Israeli grift, with important political benefits as well, i.e. initiation of a global biometric totalitarian regime to subjugate , with financial penalties, gentile dissent:

  131. Dumbo says:

    The big news right now are:

    – The arrest and frozen accounts of peaceful protesters in Canada, a supposed democracy;
    – The total failure of “vaccines” and “vaccine passports” and the crumbling of the official vaccine narrative in most places.

    Not commenting on those issues, and instead insisting on a discredited “bioweapon” theory is stupid and reeks of misdirection.

    What are your thoughts on that, Mr. Unz? I couldn’t care less about your absurd “neocon bioweapon” theory, no matter how many 300,000 words articles you write about them.

    • Thanks: Emslander
  132. @Ron Unz

    Thanks for the reply, Ron. I just wanted to make sure you hadn’t missed the comment when I first posted it.

    Regarding this …

    “Given these very serious early Chinese missteps, which might have led to disaster, I find it very unlikely that they had any foreknowledge of a pending American biowarfare attack.”

    … I must have mis-communicated.

    I wasn’t suggesting Chinese ***foreknowledge***, but only Chinese “alertness”. That, in light of Kadlec’s history, his hiring by the Trump administration, his sponsorship of Crimson Contagion with its focus on a Chinese origin of a respiratory infection, and the strange/??? fact of US bioweapons research having been set up in the Wuhan lab.

    Good luck in your efforts to get the word out.

  133. @d dan

    Well it would actually be very surprising, would it not, if US intelligence or just US academic networks, didn’t have at least chatty informants in WIV who had been educated in the US? But then you might address what Ron has so far regarded as a petty quibble, which is to explain why the actual ABC report of the alleged Intel report contained such patent absurdities as an illness spreading throughout China (already in November) and changing the way of life.

    • Replies: @d dan
  134. @Truth Vigilante

    Tell me you pathetic self satisfied know-all who hasn’t even got the humble intellectual quality to acknowledge that he is being derided for his trying to make a case with quite obvious disregard for accuracy. Are you trying to waste people’s time with deliberate perversity?

    You falsely say I am defending Churchill and yet, despite receiving the clearest prompt, you have proved incapable of taking 5 seconds to do a Google search for “Butcher of Bengal” which uniquely identifies Tikka Khan and, if you add “Churchill” loses all reference to “Butcher”.

    Likewise a Google search for “did Roosevelt call Churchill a drunken poltroon” should help you understand your deficiency of memory.

    I do give tutorials in retirement for \$1000 an hour to the dumb rich but I’m afraid I can’t invite someone so ignorantly undisciplined and intrusively talkative to join my few earnest seekers after truth in small classes

  135. @Ron Unz

    Now I am seriously worried for you. I hesitate to apply the word “liar” in even in the loose liberal way that UR cranks throw it in but, if you don’t have more worrying problems you would have had to know and remember that I have several times carefully refuted your attempt to get up the canard which, this time, you express as

    the individual I was calling “brainless” had just recently been promoting the theory that although both JFK and RFK had been attacked by crazed lone gunmen, each of the Kennedy brothers had actually been accidentally shot and killed by his own armed guards.

    I have just visited an old Oxbridge friend of great intellectual distinction in his day who was lying in a care home bed 10 years on from an irritating twitch in the fingers of his writing hand leading to the diagnosis of Parkinson’s Disease. I am not suggesting that as the problem foreshadowed by your aberration here but, for one who seeks to continue making a serious contribution to the thinking of those who care about America I think you should consult a neurologist.

  136. @Wizard of Oz

    Oh, Wiz-what a caution you are. The concatenation of stupidity and pomposity is priceless. And the bitchiness is world-class in its conceit.

    • Troll: WIzard of Oz
  137. @Wizard of Oz

    Anyone who would pay YOU one dollar for a ‘tutorial’ (in pompous stupidity and unmerited self-regard?)is insane, but one thousand? Per hour? Pull the other one, Walter Mitty.

    • Agree: Truth Vigilante
    • Troll: WIzard of Oz
  138. Ron Unz says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Now I am seriously worried for you. I hesitate to apply the word “liar” in even in the loose liberal way that UR cranks throw it in

    Well, you keep on urging me and everyone else to watch that stupid video claiming that JFK was accidentally shot and killed by a Secret Service agent, and that’s why the whole thing was covered up by the American government:

    On the JFK shooting did you ever watch the documentary of the retired Australian policeman’s theory and his testing of it? Did you immediately see it as flawed? (I say it was certainly not obvious, subject to someone proving that it was).

    With regard to RFK, you may be the first person in the world to ever propose the theory that he was accidentally shot and killed by security guard Eugene Cesar, who became flustered when lone-nut Sirhan Sirhan started shooting:

    You seem embarrassed at your inability to show that my question about shooting by Eugene Cesar was not a reasonable one. And you have a big problem explaining why local police and prosecutors would cover up for him if

    1. They had even a hint that he deliberately killed RFK…

    3.They we concerned that publicising Eugene Cesar’s fatal error would lead to rich elderly cranks promoting conspiracy theories with a nation shaking impact.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-anne-frank-sirhan-sirhan-and-aids/?showcomments#comment-5161379

    • Replies: @WIzard of Oz
  139. Emslander says:
    @Ron Unz

    I think the same psychiatrist ought to have a go with your postings, too Mr. Unz. Your readers would help.

  140. JamesinNM says:
    @Patrick McNally

    Review the patent research done by Dr David E Martin. The U.S. with the help of Canada, China, and other nations intentionally designed, manufactured, and deployed Covid and the associated “vaccines” as bioweapons against the world’s people to maim and kill. At the final judgement the truth will be shouted from the rooftops, and all evil will suffer the second death and burn for eternity. Life is a mere breath, but eternity is forever.

  141. @Ron Unz

    Good stuff Ron.

    You have indeed been ‘much too kind’ in your dealings with Dunce of Oz – your restraint is admirable.

    Reading his commentary (esp. the lengthier ones), does my head in so I avoid much of it. That said, on the occasions that I do peruse his postings, I’m compelled to kick him in the guts.

  142. @Wizard of Oz

    You write:

    you have proved incapable of taking 5 seconds to do a Google search for “Butcher of Bengal” which uniquely identifies Tikka Khan and, if you add “Churchill” loses all reference to “Butcher”

    I won’t waste 5 nanoseconds searching for anything on Google, seeing as it’s a tool of the corrupt establishment that uses algorithms to promote mainstream propaganda on all manner of issues ranging from Covid, the Holohoax, the alleged Anthropogenic Global Warming, the alleged Apollo Manned Moon missions and so forth.

    That you haven’t worked this out yet is an indictment of your inability to discern truth from falsehoods.

    The only search engines I use are Yandex and occasionally DuckDuckGo. I suggest you do likewise if you’re serious about getting nearer to the truth.

    Among the citizens of India (and a good many others around the world who are acquainted with Churchill’s antics), the term ‘Butcher of Bengal’ immediately brings to mind that old drunkard Winston, as per this Yandex search:

    https://vikaschandrabalodi.com/winston-churchill-the-butcher-of-bengal-game-of-death-1943-and-other-man-made-bengal-famines-or-genocides/

    Meanwhile, as corrupt as Google is, if you enter the three words ‘ Churchill Bengal famine’, you’ll locate a ton of information that inculpates Churchill to this mass genocide.

    Of course, those Zio miscreants who owe Churchill eternal gratitude for sacrificing the blood and treasure of the British Empire during WWII in pursuit of the Zionist agenda, are also in control of the present day narrative and have thus saturated Wikipedia and the rest of the internet with info suggesting that the label ‘Butcher of Bengal’ applies to the Pakistani general Tikka Khan.

    Khan, who presided over the killing of thousands of Bengalis in East Pakistan, is guilty of crimes that are but a drop in the ocean in comparison to Winston Spendthrift Churchill – whose orders resulted in the deaths of millions:

    https://www.winterwatch.net/2020/08/winston-churchill-and-the-1943-starvation-of-bengal/

    • Replies: @WIzard of Oz
  143. @Ron Unz

    Thanks Ron. I hadn’t looked into the vaping deaths and the ABC study in detail. I tend to agree with you on the whole U.S. bio-weapon thesis so if these two pieces are as you say, it only strengthens your thesis. So I would ask you then, if the U.S. introduced this bio-weapon, what was the motive? It most certainly hasn’t caused significant devastation in China or Russia, the two greatest threats to American power. China’s looming demographic catastrophe in my view is its greatest weakness, followed by its massive debt which can certainly bring down its economy and the entire political edifice. China stockpiled commodities during the pandemic so they can easily ride this through in the short-term. Russia also doesn’t seem to be adversely impacted, at least any more than others.

    “Cui Bono?” says Big Pharma and WEF were definitely in on it as the two groups that have benefited the most from it. Is it possible they sold the idea to Pompeo and company as something that could devastate China? Was this a Five Eyes/NATO plan to damage opponents? But then why not do anything to protect the homeland in advance, especially if according to your view, it resulted in legitimate excess deaths in the U.S.? Why ban all types of early treatment medication if the virus was expected to travel back home from China/Iran? Surely they were well aware of the transmissibility of a virus so contagious?

    The only way I can reconcile all of this is that it is a WEF plan in close cooperation with Big Pharma and Five Eyes governments because it’s totally consistent with:

    1) Suppression of early treatment
    2) Complete denial of natural immunity
    3) Vaccines as the only acceptable medical solution to the health crisis
    4) Vaccine mandates for school, work, travel, basically anything to live a normal life
    5) Indefinite booster shots not just for covid but for flu as well (not yet implemented but certainly being talked about)
    6) Complete refusal by authorities to outline the criteria for ending the state of emergency in terms of vaccination rate or infection rate or death rate
    7) Implementation of digital ID / QR code as a requirement to do day-to-day activities exactly as outlined by the WEF. Even if this is temporarily rolled back, the system is fully in place, ready to be resurrected for any and all future emergencies/crises in order to exert total control over the movements and actions of the masses.

    As far as the blowback to the homeland, I think the WEF sold this to the Pentagon as something that would really hurt China and Iran, something the Pompeo gang just couldn’t pass up on. They were also likely assured that the vaccines were ready to be deployed and it would only cause insignificant mortality here. We all know what any government would do if the plan backfired and caused excess mortality: just do nothing because there was no culpability to begin with.

  144. @ConfusedReader

    Thanks for your thoughtful comment C.R. Before Ron Unz responds, assuming he does, I’ll give you my take on it.

    You write:

    if the U.S. introduced this bio-weapon, what was the motive? It most certainly hasn’t caused significant devastation in China or Russia, the two greatest threats to American power

    The motive(s) for the Zionist Usury Banking Cartel (aka the Zio cabal) perpetrating the Covid Psyop are numerous.

    In no particular order of importance (and by no means an exhaustive listing), some of the major reasons are:

    1) A worldwide depopulation agenda. (This is not to imply that Covid is dangerous – it most assuredly isn’t. As corrupt as the W.H.O is, and as beholden as it is to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, even they admitted that for people under 60 years, Covid is LESS LETHAL than seasonal flu).
    And, to the extent that it is alleged to be more lethal to those over 60, those deaths were preventable and due to medical malpractice, prevention of early treatment with low cost medications like IVM, HCQ etc.
    As for the ‘treatment’ that was administered, the seniors (and not-so-senior) were killed after given Remdesivir and suffering VILI (Ventilator Induced Lung Injuries) – not to mention those euthanased in nursing homes with Midazolam.
    Absent these two treatments, many in the U.S and elsewhere would be alive today.

    The alleged Covid mortality increased worldwide in 2021, which was very strange. After all, there were NO VACCINES available in 2020, a year in which the supposedly more dangerous Alpha variant of Covid predominated.
    Then, in 2021, a year in which the much less lethal Delta and Omicron variants were on the loose, even without the vaccine roll out, one would expect that far fewer people would die – especially in light of the fact that a significant number of hundreds of millions would have already had Covid, recovered from it, and thus had NATURAL IMMUNITY in 2021 than in 2020.

    On top of that, in 2021 we had the Covid vaccine rollout which, according to Big Pharma and the comatose pro-vaxx enablers, would ‘protect’ us from the worst effects of Covid and greatly reduce hospitalisations and death.

    Instead, it did the EXACT OPPOSITE.

    How blind would you have to be to not realise that there is a correlation between the vaxx rollout and increased mortality ?

    Ron Unz, since you attach importance to Nobel Laureates and what they have to say:

    [MORE]

    More importantly, Covid was used a pretext to shut down non-essential businesses and disrupt the economies of the first world. The flow on from this was disruption in trade with third world economies which directly led to hundreds of millions being on the point of starvation.
    In the first world, the ‘Deaths of Despair’ escalated as suicides rocketed, deaths due to opioids and other substance abuse shot up, alcohol consumption went through the roof and domestic violence (oftentimes leading to death) went way up as people were cooped up together for longer periods during lockdown curfews and such.

    In addition, deaths due to other illnesses went up as people missed cancer screenings and other medical procedures were cancelled or postponed – procedures and screenings that would have picked up on serious issues and nipped them in the bud under normal circumstances.

    2) To the extent that the Covid Psyop was supposed to disrupt the economies in the west, the perpetrators had envisioned that this would mean less disposable income for consumers.
    This would entail less money to spend on imported products from China – which would necessarily mean less export income for the Chinese and the repercussions of that. (ie: increased unemployment and the civil unrest that would generate with the potential to topple the ruling CCP if discontent was widespread).

    Of course, that plan badly backfired on the Anglo-Zionist perpetrators of the Covid Psyop, as China quickly overcame this harmless Flu-By-Another-Name and soon Chinese industrial output was firing on all eight cylinders in supplying output to the profligate first world, as citizens in the west were sitting at home being paid more with freshly printed USD/Euros/GBP/AUD/CAD etc, than they were when actually working – hence the EXPLOSION in the U.S trade deficit with China to undreamed of record levels.

    Meanwhile, a slow down in trade, just as we saw in the 2008 GFC, meant a decimation of the oil price.
    WHY would the Anglo-Zionist empire seek a collapse in the oil price, you might be thinking ?

    Well, we all know that Saudi Arabia has the world largest oil reserves but what many are not aware of is that Russia, while not possessing the largest reserves, is and has been for many years the world’s largest OIL PRODUCER.

    A collapse in the price of oil, far and away the leading export commodity (along with natural gas) of Russia and the main source of hard currency inflow, would’ve entailed an economic collapse if sustained over a prolonged period.

    That strategy worked wonderfully well (for a while), as the oil price went to MINUS \$37/barrel in March 2020.
    But the oil price quickly stabilised, consolidated and is now off to the races as it fast approaches USD \$100/barrel – yet another MASSIVE BACKFIRING of the plans of the Zio cabal.

    3) Still on the matter of motive for the Covid Psyop orchestration, the 2008 GFC was a result of excessive debt, pure and simple.
    So, to cure said catastrophe, the Zionist Usury Bankers put a Band-Aid over the haemorrhaging by creating ….. wait for it ….. even MORE DEBT.

    As bad as the world was in 2008 (and the U.S in particular), we are in a much, MUCH worse situation today.
    Knowing that a financial collapse was imminent, the Zio powerbrokers initiated the Covid Psyop.
    That way, when businesses went belly up and countless millions were standing in line at soup kitchens for a feed, they’d say that Covid was responsible for the calamity.

    They’d say that they were good economic stewards and that they couldn’t be blamed for this ‘Act of Nature’ that happened by chance due to bats and pangolins in China (and/or Chinese poor hygiene in their wet markets – thus getting a two-for by being able to demonise the Chinese in the process).

    Meanwhile, to the extent that the economy was still partially functioning, to prevent a complete financial catastrophe, they said that trillions would have to be digitally created.
    And sock puppet that he is, Trump dutifully complied and presided over this period (continuing to this day under Biden), where said trillions are (for the most part) doled out to fellow Zio cronies and their corporations who were having financial issues due to their reckless business practices and rampant speculation.

    A small fraction of those trillions was handed out to the slavish mask muzzling general public – just enough to keep them occupied at home watching Netflix and with sufficient calorie intake and trans-fats from their junk food diets to keep them from rebelling against their wise government overlords.

    Lastly, you write:

    I think the WEF sold this to the Pentagon as something that would really hurt China and Iran, something the Pompeo gang just couldn’t pass up on.

    Are you implying that Pompeo and ‘his gang’ orchestrated this ?

    Confused Reader, you are indeed confused (and extremely naive) as you rightly assert.

    Whether it be Pompeo, or Biden, Trump, Obama or any politician or health bureaucrat either before or since in the entirety of the western world, ALL of these people are nothing more than HIRED HANDS.

    These people are not behind the planning of the Covid Psyop (nor were their predecessors responsible for planning 9/11, the JFK/RFK/JFK Jr/MLK/Malcolm X hits etc).

    These people READ FROM A SCRIPT.

    Said script is dictated by that one and ONLY entity on the planet that has the FINANCIAL WHEREWITHAL (amounting to multiples of U.S GDP) to buy off every key individual in positions of power in the western world and control the narrative through the media – which they own lock, stock and barrel.

    That sinister entity is of course the Zionist Usury Banking Cartel.

    Confused Reader, you have much to learn. Keep reading the commentary from the countless well informed individuals here in UR that I readily acknowledge, have an even better appreciation than I do of the damage being wrought on the world by Zio malfeasance.
    (Laurent Guyenot, being a standout amongst those contributing articles and, as far as the comments section is concerned, there are too many contributors to itemise).

    You will be greatly enlightened.

  145. dimples says:
    @James1488

    The Unz Covid-19 Biowarfare Narrative, like many narratives sold on today’s market, is impervious to logic or fact. At least they have the actual TV footage now, that’s a serious leap forward.

    • Replies: @James1488
  146. @Ron Unz

    Wrong again

    Well, you keep on urging me and everyone else to watch that stupid video claiming that JFK was accidentally shot and killed by a Secret Service agent, and that’s why the whole thing was covered up by the American government:

    Just not true and, despite my alerting you repearesly to the fact that your memory must be letting you down you have not bothered to check.

    Before expressly giving up any interest in the accidental Security Service shot as an adequate explanation for why there might have been a cover up I merely mentioned it as an Occamish explanation that I was aware of and offered for comment.

    As to the RFK killing it is RFK Jr I understand who seems to be, unlike his many siblings, standing with you as a believer in Thane Eugene Caesar as the deliberate killer of RFK. As the LAPD and prosecution service has been allegedly behaving consistently with a cover up I merely applied Occam’s Razor to see if a less complicated explanation might fit. So I asked if there was a problem about Caesar having fired the fatal shot but its being an accident caused by Srhan Sirhan’s bullets having made RFK fall backwards and sideways. Neither you nor anyone else has been able to deny the possibility though, with maybe approximately equal not negligible probability the fatal movement of Kennedy’s body could have been because of the way he had started shaking people’s hands – as has been suggested by others.

    • Replies: @dimples
  147. @Truth Vigilante

    My God you must have an empty life to fill it with such guff. Even the MM team sees it as efficient to just give a brief spray of almost random abuse worthy of the prentic Wolf Warrior.

  148. JR Foley says:
    @Wojciech Garbacz

    The rest of the world was too busy laughing –laughing–making fun of China and no one gave a continental dam and the jokers on CNN – FOX and idiots like Adrian Zenz and Gordon G Chang were frothing at the mouth –LOCKDOWN –Building new hospital in 14 days –NO Spring Festival –China the Sickman of the World —-all major USA news networks KNEW it began in Wuhan at the wet market ( wrong Chico —-Barcelona Spain April 2019 – Milan Italy September 2019 ) and Trump was so confident he never wore a mask –then he caught Covid himself –LOL .

  149. @Ron Unz

    I agree.

    Schuchat was a shill, a red herring.

    Suggests that CDC was in on the scheme from the very beginning.
    That Pence abruptly canceled Schuchat’s interview suggests that Pence was part of the original scheme, or at least drawn into it very early on.

    Thanks for pointing to your coverage of the vaping issue.

  150. @Wojciech Garbacz

    Are you a published biologist or molecular biologist? Do you have citations to back your assertions? Your reasoning is extremely poor and suggests you know less than nothing about infection diseases.

  151. Piglet says:
    @Missdirected

    That’s Fort Detrick, not Fort Dietrich.

    No Marlene there.

  152. ARepli says:

    This is a “smoking gun” piece supporting Unz’ random neural firings from his Professor Truth I’m like a professional journalist puppet show, which consists of one puppet: Ron Unz himself, where the smoking gun proffered is a video with a soundtrack playing Robert Cray’s Smoking Gun?

    Add a rick-roll and this can rack up 500,000 clicks.

    Welcome Asian Visitors to Unzcom, may we direct your attention to our esteemed Professor Truth…

    As to the rest of the puppets bobbing around Unz’ masthead, they’re not even on the same wavelength as Unz…

    What’s the frequency Kenneth? (For the Oriental initiate to Unz Review, this is a reference to a song by American alternative rock band R.E.M. from their ninth studio album, which is a riff on the random interjections of assailants of CBS’s Dan Rather outside his Park Avenue home in an era well after his Nightly News and 60 Minutes anchor career became a shambles due to specious reporting.)

    Back to subject at hand, The Smoking Gun of Robert Cray:

    Just for fun, let’s take Unz’ whole ridiculous truthy Covid conjecture and wrap it in an even bigger ball of rubberbands about a Russkie plot to frame the US, agitate its libertarians, and cause the whole house of cards called America to come crashing down, which is by the nature of USA Conservatism its sacred hope, including that Ihovah will soom return in the form of the Beast 666 to separate the white wheat men from the chaff of purple mountains majesty boys, mateys.

    It will be an amazing day when Unz supplies even one piece of direct evidence to support his claims. It will be even more amazing when any Unzcom offers a single bit of corroborating analysis — or even stays on topic beyond thanking Ron for his truthiness. (((its the joooooos)))

  153. dimples says:
    @WIzard of Oz

    “A second certificate of death, signed on December 6 by Theron Ward, a Justice of the Peace in Dallas County, stated that Kennedy died “as a result of two gunshot wounds (1) near the center of the body and just above the right shoulder, and (2) 1 inch to the right center of the back of the head.”

    RFK was shot twice by Thane. Some accident. What happened to the hotel manager that testified that he was holding Sirhan’s arm down and none of his shots went near RFK? Dunce of Oz is like a religious apologist, no facts can alter the dogma handed down by God in his official revelation.

    • Replies: @dimples
    , @Wizard of Oz
  154. dimples says:
    @dimples

    Also, I should point out, Thane shot RFK with a .22 pistol he carried on his person, conveniently the same caliber as Sirhan’s gun. Why didn’t Thane draw his .38 caliber revolver if he was concerned about an attack on RFK?

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain
  155. monopduly says:
    @Ron Unz

    Kadlec was not a Trump insider, but affiliated with foreign entities who profited from the first bioweapon attack on 911.

    1. Robert Kadlec was an agent o the American anthrax vaccine company developed in response to the 911 anthrax attacks. (Bioport- Emerging Biosolutions [EB]), He was a director at Bioport and later served as a consultant to the successor Emerging Biolsolutions., seeSaudi linked Fuad El-Hibri.

    2. Kadlec worked for Alez Azar, a former Bush official and pharmaceutical executive. Azar resigned in protest in support of Trump’s impeachment/. There is evidence of Azar foreknowledge of an upcoming pandemic attack.

    3. Bioport-EB was a defense contractor for the anthrax vaccine developed in response to the 911 anthrax attacks The FBI alleged perpetuator of that attack worked on the Bioport-EB vaccine.

    4. Bioport-EB was seed funded by the British-Saudi Carlyle Group. There are scores of articles detailing the alleged complicity of this privte firm with the 911 attacks., and its close association with Israel.

    5.Bioport-EB manufactured the British AstraZeneca vaccine as well as the J& J vaccine, in the United States.

    6. A spot check on LinkedIn of Bioport-EB senior staff show several Technion linked Israeli nationals .Israel was also an anthrax vaccine devloper.

    ————————-

    1 The report in question, published last Monday by The Washington Post, detailed the ties of Kadlec to a man named Fuad El-Hibri, the founder of a “life sciences” company first known as BioPort and now called Emergent Biosolutions. Kadlec had previously disclosed his ties to El-Hibri and Emergent Biosolutions for a separate nomination years prior, but had failed to do so when nominated to head ASPR.,

    Robert Kadlec’s forays into the private sector during this period went far beyond East West Protection. Kadlec’s consultancy firm, RPK Consulting, …, where he directly advised Emergent Biosolutions as well as other pharmaceutical companies like Bavarian Nordic. Kadlec was also a consultant to military and intelligence contractors, such as the DARPA-backed firm Invincea [UK Sophos] and NSA contractor Scitor, which was recently acquired by SAIC.

    Head of the Hydra: The Rise of Robert Kadlec

    Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar and Tim Morrison, then a special assistant to the President and senior director for weapons of mass destruction and biodefense on the National Security Council, made the comments at the BioDefense Summit in April 2019.

    Top administration officials said last year threat of pandemic kept them up at night

  156. monopduly says: • Website
    @ConfusedReader

    Anyone who has served in the military or around government intelligence activities knows the U.S. government could not organize and deploy a secret attack such as in 911 or in Covid. Ron Unz understands this very well as I believe he has alluded to rogue external elements.

    I do not understand why these must be American, or even acting on behalf of American elite interests.

    Like the War on Terror, the War on Covid was a financial looting operation. The major beneficiaries are foreign, transnational, associated with the Military Industrial- Big Pharma complex.

    The other issue is empirical. If one million excess deaths occurred , how many were actually because of Covid, rather than with Covid. Certainly denying therapeutics and early interventions had some effect as well. That doesn’t mean Covid was the flue.

    Like Amerithrax, it was an engineered bioweapon that came from an American ( or Israeli?) funded Wuhan (or other) Lab. The attack on the Iranian leadership , and the AIPAC leak indicates some association with extremist transnational Zionist interests.

    ———————–

    The investigation summaries provided to the committee in December 2010 refer to the presence of a pE03 vector referred to as an ‘Israeli cloning vector’ among certain repository isolates (B3D1). On the January 11, 2011 meeting the FBI was asked to clarify what was known about the vector. The committee was told that this vector was a derivative of the commonly used cloning vector pBR322 that was found in some isolates, and that it had no forensic value to the investigation

    (FBI/USDOJ, 2011). National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine. 2011. Review of the Scientific Approaches Used During the FBI’s Investigation of the 2001 Anthrax Letters. Washington, DC: The National Academies Press.

    https://www.nap.edu/read/13098/chapter/7#104

  157. @dimples

    I can understand your treating this old case as just part of America’s prolifically violent history and therefore too trivial to find out what an Australian has actuaally said in relation to it. None of my past comments justify your version of what I have been saying and asking. But it all matters still to the (R.F.) Kennedy family. Do you know, or care, what relation your version has to that of RFK Jr? No, I didn’t think so. And I see that you limited attention span has caused you to just grasp one version of the shooting facts which the contested record provides as feed for the mentally short winded.

  158. Clyde says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Good for Novak! You personal and family solution is to get a blood test that includes D3. Take 10000 iu D3 daily until you get to 75 ng/ml …. Then going for 94 ng/ml which will deny access to all the viruses the CCP will release.

    The conceited Han who run the CCP and PLA. They made a mistake when releasing Covid 19. Han Chinese in China have pathetic D3 levels. They are indoors too much. At work and when relaxing. They figured Europeans and Americans are the same with D3. But this is not true. We are outdoors more and might be taking Cenrtum multi-vitamins with its 1000 iu D3. A low level but better than nothing. The Chinx want white skin as possible, so avoid the sun. Especially the women. While in The West we want tanned and outdoorsy looking skin. This gave and gives us whites better D3 levels. Otherwise, Covid.xyz would have been 5-10 times worse.

  159. James1488 says:
    @dimples

    attacking 2 different countries with the same bio-weapon and hopping no one will ever make a connection. those rogue national security elements must be really stupid.

    • Replies: @d dan
  160. This is Fake News. Let’s start with what we do know…..Fauci Oversaw work on a Bio-Weapon at UNC and various places in the US and after good guys expresses concern this bad Obama outsources it out to China where Fauci continued to oversee the work. China unleashed Covid in Oct 2019 at the World Military games which in turn releases it on the World. All governments with Central Banks knew it was coming and were complicit.

  161. @Desert Fox

    I remain shocked that Ron has swallowed — hook line and sinker– the thoroughly ridiculous Covid 19 canard.

    Because Covid 19 is a hoax. It is a well thought out, and tightly controlled psychological operation designed to make people take the “vaccine”.

    Of course bio-weapons were used in the operation. They were used to promote the hoax and they were conveniently used to kill Iranian clerics. We don’t know what these bio-weapons were.

    But we do know that those bioweapons did not include a “virus” named “Sars Cov 2”. That’s because “Sars Cov 2” exists only on the pages of a patent, and not in the real world. Which is why there is no test for it.

    Think about it: Would the perpetrators of this hoax use a real and therefore uncontrollable virus to fuel their critical, long planned, one shot only, operation?

    No. They wouldn’t use a real virus because, in case you haven’t noticed, these people are all about CONTROL.

    • Thanks: Truth Vigilante
  162. d dan says:
    @James1488

    ” those rogue national security elements must be really stupid.”

    And they are, as they repeatedly, consistently and spectacularly demonstrated in Iraq, Afghanistan, Ukraine, and many places.

    And not just stupid, but also unprincipled, evil and arrogant – many traits that you are displaying too. Or may be you are one of them?

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies: @James1488
  163. d dan says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    “… have at least chatty informants in WIV who had been educated in the US?”

    Only a dumb asshole will come up with this type of stupid argument. Maybe US intelligence also has China nuclear launch code because Xi has studied in US too?

    Not only there is no evidence of Wuhan lab leak, you are further speculating that those “careless” Chinese scientists would totally disregard security rules and laws so blatantly that US intelligence got the “leak” info faster than Beijing.

    This is just another addition of idiocy of the many “arguments” that you have thrown out (e.g. “super-spreader” killed Iranian leaders – right, explaining a rare event with another even more rare event)

  164. @d dan

    As it is known that Fauci had initiated work on viruses at Wuhan it is very naive if not stupid to deny that US Intel would want to have someone inside and therefore very likely did.

    As to a possible superspreader explanation for the striking pattern of Iranian infections and deaths your handwavy attempt at logic falls down when you consider that if what you call a rare event – actually just one that is unpredictable without very precise special information – could have been an out break of the virus amongst members of a football team. Then you would have looked hard to see if there was someone who had just returned from Qom who might be a superspreader.

  165. @d dan

    You’ve got to get deep down in the Dunning-Kruger mire to deal with Wiz. He’s such a crude, Walter Mitty type, confabulator. He comes up with these idiocies, or is fed them by the Murdoch media, and thinks them really clever. The Chinese more or less liquidated the CIA’s network of traitors in China after 2010, when they cracked the Septics’ Internet-based communications system. But every Imperial boot-licker likes to pretend that the mighty Western ‘intelligence’ agencies have a stool-pigeon in every Chinese organisation, and use that fatuous furphy to invent ‘intelligence’. Laughable.

  166. @Clyde

    Why are Sinophobe racists ALWAYS such vicious morons? The Chinese did SO badly that 5000 or so Chinese have died, some with low D3 no doubt, but in the sun-tanned and vibrant USA, a million have carked it. What a triumph for the not-so White Man. And the freak even gets in a plug for Centrum, perhaps for a small retainer. .

  167. James1488 says:
    @d dan

    Then this must be the final proof that we are the victims of bio-warfare. Because only stupids (read US intelligence agencies) would have unleashed the virus, even though they knew very well that it could spread around the world (they made a report warning of a “cataclysmic” disease); even more, they attacked Iran who’s Revolutionary Guards have a presence up to Israel’s borders, the country which should have benefited from the attack in the first place.

  168. @Clyde

    But this is not supported by the data which shows miniscule Covid-19 infections and deaths in China compared to White countries. Any explanations for the data? WHO and other official bodies are not questioning PR China data.

    Vitamin D3 – you’re probably right but have to balance exposure to sun with skin cancer causing UV radiation. Would supplements then be better than natural sunshine?

    • Replies: @Clyde
  169. Clyde says:
    @Commentator Mike

    But this is not supported by the data which shows miniscule Covid-19 infections and deaths in China compared to White countries.

    CCP Han Chinese always lie. If you are pale and don’t want sunburn then take 10000 iu D3 little gelcaps >>>> https://www.amazon.com/Carlyle-Vitamin-Softgels-Promotes-Supplement/dp/B07GRBQY5B

    • Troll: mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  170. Mr. Unz,

    I think your analysis and presentation of facts are sufficient to show that the U.S. has long engaged in bioweapons research, that there are strong indicia that the U.S. has in the past used such bioweapons, and that there have long been connexions between Ft. Detrich, NiH, CDC, and the WIV.

    Where your analysis fails is in showing that the U.S., or some among its agents, caused the release of SARS-COV2 in 2019. Again, to summarize your hypothesis, you claim that the U.S. intelligence report to NATO and Israel in November of 2019 occurred before the outbreak. If the outbreak is shown to have occurred BEFORE the date of that intelligence report, then your argument fails.

    I believe that the open-source information analysts at drasticresearch.org, in their article, ‘October Surprise’, have adequately provided plenty of evidence showing that SARS-COV2 had begun its spread long before November 2019. That evidence includes the following (taken from their conclusions at the end of that article):

    [MORE]

    ● Satellite data and traffic analysis of Wuhan Hospitals in autumn 2019.
    ● Social media search trend terms from the Baidu search engine.
    ● Reports of military athletes with Covid-19 like symptoms from multiple nations.
    ● Alleged Correlation between number of returning military athletes and covid-19 cases.
    ● Positive IgM and IgG antibody results from 6 Spanish military athletes.
    ● The alleged November warning by US intelligence to NATO and Israel.
    ● Claimed early knowledge by Thermogenesis in November 2019.
    ● Claimed early knowledge by Scientists, Diplomats and Dissidents.
    ● Anecdotal reports from an interview with an African PhD student in Wuhan.
    ● Leaked and documented hospital data from Wuhan hospitals.
    ● Positive sera antibody results from Italy dating back to November 2019.
    ● The 9 November 2019 cases reported by CCDC with claimed “patient zero” on Nov 17th
    ● Serological evidence and the WHO Investigation.
    ● Chinese Cover Up and Gag Orders.
    ● Early Mutation Analysis of SARS-COV-2 and phylogenetic evidence.
    ● SARS-COV-2 progenitor mutation analysis.
    ● Case number anomalies and possible manipulations in the official numbers.
    ● How the number of December 2019 cases support a cryptic spread in November 2019.

    And, while it is not mentioned in ‘October Surprise’, the fact that between September 12 and 30 2019, the WIV took offline THOUSANDS of virus genome files previously available on the Internet is in itself a damning indication that at least the WIV, and possibly the PRC, knew of a release long before November 2019. It is equally a strong indication that that release was unintentional: if it had been intentional, those files would never have been made available in the first place.

    Your attempts to cast doubt on a few of these pieces of evidence, even if they were successful in disproving them (which, to my mind, they do not), do nothing to disprove all of them. And your attempt to minimize the truth of D.R.A.S.T.I.C.’s assertions by objecting to the presence of graphs and pictures is simply risable.

    I will not attempt to convince you to change your mind; it clearly has already been made up. I will simply say that on the basis of the facts made available by drasticresearch.org, the probabilities based on them are as follows:

    0.7 An unintentional lab leak from WIV or its two associated biolabs in Wuhan;
    0.1 An intentional release by the PRC;
    0.1 A zoonotic transfer from infected animals to humans;
    0.1 An intentional release by U.S. (or other) agents.

    This analysis is of course subject to change, depending on subsequent information revealed.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  171. DRASTIC is just another Western ‘intelligence’ disinfo operation like Bellingcrap. ‘Open source’ my arse. Like Bellingcrap, plainly fed nuggets of shite by Western intelligence. Points 1 & 2 are classic Bellingcrap style disinfo, either fraudulent, deliberately misconstrued or describing some other event. The military cases could have been caused by contamination by infected US personnel, or deliberate US release. ‘Claimed’, ‘claimed’,’anecdotal’ follow, worth NOTHING. Then ‘leaked’ and ‘documented’ ie intelligence fabrications (leaked to whom-Falun Gong?), Chinese ‘cover-up and gag orders’, simply dirty Sinophobic lies, then more Sinophobic anti PRC GARBAGE of the lowest, war-mongering, kind. Shove your ‘research’ up your Falun Gong fundament.

  172. @Clyde

    Another gibbering racist thug. The rise of China has really set the race-haters and racist supremacist in the West into a frenzy.

  173. Ron Unz says:
    @Bernard Brandt

    I believe that the open-source information analysts at drasticresearch.org, in their article, ‘October Surprise’, have adequately provided plenty of evidence showing that SARS-COV2 had begun its spread long before November 2019.

    I already responded to you upthread:

    https://www.unz.com/kbarrett/covid-19-bio-attack-smoking-gun-video-with-ron-unz/#comment-5181487

    I carefully read the entire 146 page Drastic PDF, and found it pretty unpersuasive, heavily padded out with all sorts of Memes and other Twitter junk:

    Some of the points you’re quoting from them are legitimate, but most are just total junk, which I’d already strongly refuted in some of my long previous articles, which you really should read:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-covid-epidemic-as-lab-leak-or-biowarfare/

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-confronting-covid-crimestop/

    If you’re too lazy to bother reading my detailed articles or too stupid to see that they totally demolished half the points you made in your list, I can’t see why I should bother with any further discussion.

  174. Johan says:

    In the alternative media there are many fantasts maintaining longstanding mainstream narratives in their own way. There exist no biowarfare with viruses. The whole virus narrative is a crude primitivism of the 19th century which has been upgraded to the status of allegedly being based upon advanced modern science. Virology is an interest based pseudo science. It is a primitivism pushed by highly doubtful bunglers and freaks two centuries ago, which appeals to contemporary freaks, an industry and incompetent governments, it is a primitivism we should have gotten rid of long ago.

    https://odysee.com/ORI_01_bioweapons:35e5327d035d23799d3a65614eca22b58e50d68c?src=embed

  175. markessa says:

    There is no communicable virus. What came out of Wuhan was a hoax designed to scare people into taking the real bio weapon: the vaxx. The simple fact of no excess deaths in the first year of covid proves beyond any doubt that the pandemic was fiction. In the 2nd year, after the introduction of the bio weapon, there has been a 40% increase in all-cause mortality. Any discussion to the contrary is disinformation.

  176. @Wizard of Oz

    “I think your assertions have little merit”

    You can think what you like but the fact remains that Britain decided long before the start of WW2 that in any future conflict with Germany, anti civilian bombing was going to be the main focus,

    I of course shouldn’t have bothered engaging with you at all,

    And this:-

    “that bombing of cities, for want of accurate bomb aiming if for no other reason – was going to take place”

    As they say, it’s easy to sleep on another mans wound.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  177. @mulga mumblebrain

    Yep the ‘West’ really does think of itself as holier than thou,

    It/we are about to get our asses properly kicked over the Ukraine, in my country (Ireland) our political leadership is talking about taking in 100,000 refugees from the Ukraine, a 2% population increase,

    We are going to virtue signal ourselves in abject and utter insolvency,

    One of our ministers said the other day that “All of us on mainland Europe blah blah”,

    Imagine not knowing that you live on an Island;-),

    Little wonder the ‘West’ is fucked.

  178. @Ron Unz

    Yes, “total fakes” like the product of anti-Trump activists who concocted a story fed to ABC and a TV channel in Israel😎

  179. @Da's Reich

    Can you give particulars of anything that I said which was factually incorrect?

  180. With all due respect Sir you didn’t say anything factual,

    I’m not trying to be smart, I just re read your comment and you don’t state anything in particular as fact,

    If I’m wrong I’m happy to retract.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  181. @Da's Reich

    You wrote:

    With all due respect Sir, you [Dunce if Oz] didn’t say anything factual

    I’ll go further than that. Dunce of Oz has never said anything factual that I’m aware of (to the extent that I’ve been reading his comments – which is not a lot, since he just recycles MSM talking points and goes out of his way to act as an apologist for Zio criminality).

    Whilst I bypass the bulk of his long-winded commentary, occasionally he writes something that’s so asinine, so diametrically opposed to reality, that he sets off the ‘attack dog’ trigger in me, and I can’t hold back from mercilessly attacking him.

    • Replies: @Da's Reich
    , @Wizard of Oz
  182. @Truth Vigilante

    Something similar happened to me I guess;-)

    Your support is appreciated Sir,

    Have a great day.

  183. @Ron Unz

    I can’t find the last place where you abused me for suggesting that there were actually ingenious ways you might actually do something constructive about problems you have identified.

    In relation to whether there might be means to get through to Russia’s lumpen TV addicts with something that could eventually change minds I now invite you to read this

    Ythttps://newlinesmag.com/first-person/putins-killing-machine-that-isnt-working/

    Prove to me if you like that the author is wrong or a paid propagandist but, more constructively, consider what would be the result of getting ordinarily conservative Putin supporting Russians to read that and look at a good selection of videos that prima facie back it up. Early on, as the listener/viewer is becoming indignant there would be flash messages like “But who is telling the truth? backed up with an unmissable message to ask the mothers of soldiers who is telling the truth. Considering how little support you have achieved for your rogue actors biowarfare thesis you might be getting despondent at the idea of being able, ever again as in the 99s to change people’s minds and “make a difference “. I urge some constructive optimism.

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