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Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event––like a new Pearl Harbor.”… “And advanced forms of biological warfare that can ‘target’ specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool.” The Project for a New American Century, Rebuilding America’s Defenses (September 2000)

I spent most of 2004 through 2006 blaming Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld for 9/11. As you can imagine, I got plenty of pushback. Strangely, the loudest, most hysterical shrieks came not from red-white-and-blue Republican patriots, but from seemingly insane Zionists screaming: “Why do you hate the Jews so much, you anti-Semite?”[1]From 2006 through around 2011 my 9/11 truth focused Wikipedia page was defaced by false accusations, sourced to an anonymous blog, that I was a “supporter of Holocaust deniers.” At the time I knew almost nothing about Holocaust revisionism, and did not even recognize the name of the “Holocaust denier” I was accused of supporting. Over a period of several years, countless attempts to correct the dozens of false statements about me on Wikipedia were made, but the false information would immediately reappear within hours, sometimes within minutes.

At first, I could not for the life of me figure out why blaming two non-Jews, Cheney and Rumsfeld, elicited that kind of reaction. It also seemed odd that anyone talking about the explosive demolitions of World Trade Center Towers 1, 2, and 7 was reviled as a Jew-hater.[2]When I brought Richard Gage of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth to Madison, Wisconsin, the WORT “alternative” radio interviewer’s first question was “why do you hate the Jews?” Gage was nonplussed. He and his organization focus on scientific evidence of controlled demolition, not the question of who did it. Questioning what happened to the Pentagon, whether there were really any hijackers or cell phone calls, who really sent the anthrax, who bought the put options, who exhibited foreknowledge, and so on elicited the same hysterical reaction from Israel-firsters. It was only after I looked into the ethnic and foreign-loyalist backgrounds of PNAC, Larry Silverstein, and other 9/11 suspects that it began to dawn on me that “the Zionist doth protest too much.”

We are now experiencing 911-2B, the coronavirus black swan. Just as 9/11 terrorized, shocked, and shut down the USA for a few days, it seems that Covid-19 will do the same, only more so. Instead of a few days, we may be shut down for a few months, maybe even a few years. And once again, Zionists are hysterically pushing back against those of us questioning the official story. The Israel-lobby propaganda site The Algemeiner recently published a hit piece headlined Islamists Call Coronavirus a Zionist-American Conspiracy. It featured the following attack on yours truly:

Press TV, meanwhile, published an article by American conspiracy theorist Kevin Barrett to back the claim that the coronavirus is a US-Israeli conspiracy using biological warfare to hurt Iran. “US, Israel waging biological warfare on massive scale,” was the March 7 story’s headline.

Barrett, a “9/11 truther,” got crazier in the story:

“The United States waged biological warfare against its own Congress in 2001 with the anthrax component of the 9/11 anthrax false flag operation, which terrorized Tom Daschle and Patrick Leahy, the leaders of the movement that blocked the Patriot Act, into giving up and allowing the Patriot Act.

“So the United States is run by lunatics, by psychopaths who are entirely capable of launching World War 3 by way of a biological warfare attack on China and Iran, with the Iran component presumably led by Israel. That’s the most likely explanation for what we’re seeing.”

This is the kind of rot Press TV publishes.

The Algemeiner also vilified Muslims reacting negatively to Israel’s announcement that it would have a coronavirus vaccine ready “in a few weeks.” It cited British, Iranian, and Algerian Muslims balking at the prospect of buying vaccines from Israel, and/or questioning how Israel could possibly develop a vaccine for a new rogue virus in such short order, assuming it hadn’t simultaneously developed both the virus and the vaccine.

Might Israel profit from a disastrous black swan that it helped create? It already happened once. Prior to 9/11, the Jewish population of Israel was fleeing, with net emigration outpacing net immigration, while the dotcom bust and suicide bombings collapsed the Jewish State’s economy. The global Islamic movement was picking up steam; it seemed likely that Muslims might soon win back custody of their holy places. (Muslims have administered the holy sites in and around Jerusalem/al-Quds virtually ever since Islam existed, minus a couple of brief and bloody crusader interludes, until the current Zionist genocide began less than a century ago.)

During the run-up to 9/11, as Naomi Klein explains in The Shock Doctrine,[3]“A slew of new start-ups were launched, specializing in everything from ‘search and nail’ data mining, to surveillance cameras, to terrorist profiling. When the market for these services and devices exploded in the years after September 11, the Israeli state openly embraced a new national economic vision: the growth provided by the dot-com bubble would be replaced with a homeland security boom.” (Naomi Klein, The Shock Doctrine, p.435) Israel put all its chips into anti-terror start-ups—and hit the jackpot on 9/11/2001. An anti-Islam propaganda tidal wave swept the globe, washing away the Islamic Awakening surge and leaving in its place the 27-million-Muslim holocaust that continues today.

The 9/11 black swan was in essence a propaganda operation designed to demonize Islam and Muslims in general, and anti-Zionists ones in particular, in service to changing the arc of history to benefit Israel. But it was sold by PNAC crypto-Zionists to people like Cheney and Rumsfeld as a recipe for prolonging US empire for a New American Century by way of a “New Pearl Harbor.”

Today’s coronavirus black swan, like 9/11, has all the characteristics of a trauma-based mass-mind-control op. It has already been used to demonize China in the same way 9/11 was used to demonize Islam: Just as we were supposed to hate the crazy suicidal Muslims yearning for harems of afterlife virgins, we are now supposed to feel disgust for Chinese slurpers of bat soup. And just as we were supposed to loathe the brutal and incompetent governments of Muslim-majority nations, now we are told to revile the oppressive censorship-addicted regime in Beijing. It may be purely coincidental that this wholesale demonization of the world’s two greatest classical civilizations, based on two fear-inciting black swan events of suspicious origin, just happened to arrive in the wake of the Bernard Lewis-Samuel Huntington pronouncement that the 21st century would be era of the “clash of civilizations.” After all, even the craziest coincidence theories sometimes turn out to be true.

It also may be a coincidence that the primary US bioweapons lab, Ft. Detrick, was shut down in summer 2019 over fears that weaponized pathogens might escape. It may be a coincidence that absurdly under-performing US military athletes came to Wuhan for the World Military Games in October and have since been accused by China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs of being the source of the Covid-19 pandemic. It may be a coincidence that at the same time those “athletes” were in Wuhan, the World Economic Forum, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Johnson & Johnson, and other Establishment titans were hosting a pandemic simulation called Event 201. It may be purely coincidental that the virus appeared in Wuhan, home of China’s biggest biodefense laboratory, and China’s biggest transportation hub, just in time for the Chinese New Year, when most Chinese travel to visit relatives. Likewise, it could be coincidental that the real-life Covid-19 pandemic almost perfectly mimics Lockstep, the Rockefeller Foundation’s recipe for a global police state emerging on the back of a coronavirus-style pandemic.

Then again, it could be that the Chinese government’s suspicions about the US, or others’ suspicions about Israel (especially regarding the coronavirus catastrophe in Iran) are justified. But such possibilities are far outside of the mainstream media’s Overton Window. The whole topic of bioweapons in relation to coronavirus is an MSM no-go zone, just as the evidence and arguments refuting the official story was a no-go zone after 9/11. The very fact that such things are unspeakable in the Mockingbird media suggests that yet another nefarious propaganda operation is underway.

Just as I came to reject the official story of 9/11 by comparing the arguments and evidence cited by proponents and opponents of that thesis, I am currently leaning toward the “Anglo-Zionist bioweapon” interpretation of coronavirus based on what I’ve seen so far by opponents as well as proponents. I recently listened to Peter Myers’ arguments that Covid-19 was made in a lab—”most likely from Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV).” (Read his sources here.) Myers focuses on a paper trail documenting bat virus research at Wuhan and the University of North Carolina, allegations of Chinese germ warfare espionage, and so forth. While his scenario, an accidental release from WIV, is not impossible, the evidence he cites is also compatible with the deliberate fabrication of a second-level cover story that would be deployed if the first-level legend, “Covid-19 spontaneously jumped from bats to humans,” is conclusively disproven. The same second-level cover story would in the meantime function as a “blame the Chinese” conspiracy theory pushed by Steve Bannon, Tom Cotton, and other neocon and anti-China sources.

The question of whether the virus is naturally evolved or man-made is still open. Mainstream authorities like Nature Magazine are, quite naturally, pushing the “naturally evolved” position as hard as they can…which they would be expected to do whether or not it was true. Other sources claim “The spike glycoprotein of 2019-nCoV contains a cleavage absent in CoV – showing that it was engineered rather than evolved.” Perhaps readers more familiar with the science than I am can arbitrate such disputes in the comments section.

As with 9/11, the scientific evidence on coronavirus may give rise to a long-running debate. Meanwhile the world moves on. With 2020 hindsight I can now see that I should have interpreted 9/11 as a likely false flag immediately, based on cui bono. Today, asking the same question about coronavirus, “who benefits,” yields only slightly less obvious results.

But if Covid-19 was a biological attack on China, China’s number one European partner Italy, and China’s close Middle Eastern friend (and Anglo-Zionist arch-enemy) Iran, why is it spreading elsewhere? A skeptic on Pepe Escobar’s email list recently responded: “Hi Pepe, I’m convinced the facts do not support your theory. The damage to the West is greater than to China and it would be suicidal for US to engineer this. Why rule out natural causes like the Spanish flu?”

It is true that most military strategists dislike bioweapons due to their massive blowback potential: There is no guarantee that a mutating virus will stick to the race or geographical area you are attacking. Though Covid-19 hit China first, under highly suspicious circumstances, making it “the Chinese virus” in the words of Donald Trump (and, subliminally, in MSM reporting and global public opinion) it is now cratering the US and European economies. Could any US biowar team, however “rogue”—much less the commanding heights of the National Security State—have been crazy enough to risk that kind of blowback?

They were certainly crazy enough in 2001. Covid-19 is the new 9/11, the new “Transformative Event,” the new “watershed event in American history. It could involve loss of life and property unprecedented in peacetime and undermine America’s fundamental sense of security…Like Pearl Harbor, this event would divide our past and future into a before and an after. The United States might respond with draconian measures, scaling back civil liberties, allowing wider surveillance of citizens, detention of suspects, and use of deadly force.”

That sounds, to most of us, like an unpleasant prospect. Yet one of the authors of “Catastrophic Terrorism: Tackling the New Danger,” Philip Zelikow, is a leading suspect in the orchestration of 9/11, which occurred less than three years after that article was published. Cover-up czar Zelikow, essentially the sole author of the risible work of fiction known as The 9/11 Commission Report, might conceivably have viewed the massage damage to the United States—not just the loss of the condemned-for-asbestos Trade Towers and a few thousand replaceable people, but also the hemorrhage of more than $6 trillion dollars alongside the even greater reputational loss in the 9/11-triggered “forever wars”—as being “worth it,” in the same way Madeleine Albright famously said that murdering half a million Iraqi children was “worth it.”

Might the neocon crazies who thought 9/11 was worth it feel the same way about a coronavirus biowar strike? They might. As Pepe Escobar suggested, the Covid-19
Transformative Event is acting as a “global circuit breaker.” His conclusion: “What’s certain is that the whole global economy has been hit by an insidious, literally invisible circuit breaker. This may be just a ‘coincidence.’ Or this may be, as some are boldly arguing, part of a possible, massive psy-op creating the perfect geopolitical and social engineering environment for full-spectrum dominance.”

How could a circuit-breaker foster full-spectrum dominance? First, the neocons recognize that China’s inexorable rise to #1 world power status,[4]Chinas Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) is poised to end Western dominance of world trade in the same way the European sea route to Asia ended Muslim dominance via the Silk Road 500 years ago. For historical perspective, read Peter Frankopan’s The Silk Roads: A New History of the World. and the concomitant collapse of the Anglo-Zionist Empire, is pretty much a done deal absent some circuit-breaking black swan event. Just as the Zionists needed the 9/11 black swan to get their “Clean Break” with a historical trajectory leading towards the end of the apartheid Jewish State, so too the Anglo-Zionists might realize that something equally “transformative” would be required to forestall the rise of China.

The US cannot win a trade war with China. It cannot win a nuclear war. It cannot win a conventional land war. Yet from the neocon perspective it needs some kind of war ASAP before China grows too strong. So if you were a hardline neocon strategist dedicated to stymieing China at all costs, you might opt for a stealth 5G warfare approach featuring deniable biowar strikes among other tactics. You might be stupid or crazy enough not to consider the possibility of blowback. But more likely you would welcome the blowback as an opportunity to tear down the current US economy, which is totally dependent on Chinese imports, and rebuild a new, more Spartan system geared for a long 5G war on China (and Russia and Iran and Venezuela and anybody else who won’t follow your orders).

Strategic analysts agree that the necessary prelude to ramped up US-vs.-China warfare would be a decoupling of the US and Chinese economies. That decoupling is happening now, thanks to coronavirus. Once it has passed the point of no return, war becomes far more likely.

Hunkering down for a serious war on China and its allies would also require a momentous psychological and cultural shift on the part of the American people. Until now, they have been lazy, undisciplined, addicted to consumption without much production, and unwilling to sacrifice themselves (though quite willing to murder foreigners from the safe distance of a drone base). Only a profound psychic shock, and some serious deprivation, could retool them as potential soldiers and total war participants in a deadly and dangerous struggle to maintain their rulers’ global dominance privileges. Or so the neocons might imagine.[5]“On this perverse (neocon) view of the world, if America fails to achieve her national destiny, and is mired in perpetual war, then all is well. Man’s humanity, defined in terms of struggle to the death, is rescued from extinction… To my mind, this fascistic glorification of death and violence springs from a profound inability to celebrate life, joy, and the sheer thrill of existence.” –Shadia Drury

Will the panicked American sheeple, stampeded toward the toilet paper aisles by Coronavirus 911-2B, be redirected into a hyper-militarized mode of life befitting a long war for full spectrum dominance? Will the Great Coronavirus Depression end in World War III just as the first Great Depression ended in World War II, with military Keynesianism once again “rescuing” a dead-in-the-water economy? Will 9/11 and the 9/11 wars seem like small potatoes once we’ve seen the Coronavirus Wars?

Notes

[1] From 2006 through around 2011 my 9/11 truth focused Wikipedia page was defaced by false accusations, sourced to an anonymous blog, that I was a “supporter of Holocaust deniers.” At the time I knew almost nothing about Holocaust revisionism, and did not even recognize the name of the “Holocaust denier” I was accused of supporting. Over a period of several years, countless attempts to correct the dozens of false statements about me on Wikipedia were made, but the false information would immediately reappear within hours, sometimes within minutes.

[2] When I brought Richard Gage of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth to Madison, Wisconsin, the WORT “alternative” radio interviewer’s first question was “why do you hate the Jews?” Gage was nonplussed. He and his organization focus on scientific evidence of controlled demolition, not the question of who did it.

[3] “A slew of new start-ups were launched, specializing in everything from ‘search and nail’ data mining, to surveillance cameras, to terrorist profiling. When the market for these services and devices exploded in the years after September 11, the Israeli state openly embraced a new national economic vision: the growth provided by the dot-com bubble would be replaced with a homeland security boom.” (Naomi Klein, The Shock Doctrine, p.435)

[4] Chinas Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) is poised to end Western dominance of world trade in the same way the European sea route to Asia ended Muslim dominance via the Silk Road 500 years ago. For historical perspective, read Peter Frankopan’s The Silk Roads: A New History of the World.

[5] “On this perverse (neocon) view of the world, if America fails to achieve her national destiny, and is mired in perpetual war, then all is well. Man’s humanity, defined in terms of struggle to the death, is rescued from extinction… To my mind, this fascistic glorification of death and violence springs from a profound inability to celebrate life, joy, and the sheer thrill of existence.” –Shadia Drury

 
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  1. Trinity says:

    We are all waiting for the magical cure to come out of Israel or have a Jewish scientist/doctor in America create a cure. Choose which one. lolololol

  2. Kim says:

    BRI can’t end Western dominance will never be a global hegemon for a few reasons.

    The first and most important is that China has no oil and only low grade deposits of coal. It is impossible to rule the world without suitable forms of energy available cheaply and in large quantities. Historically, it has never happened.

    China is in the same position as the rest of us: exponential growth doesn’t go on for very long in a finite world (see Professor Bartlett’s lecture on Exponential Growth on Youtube).

    Roads, railways, airports, etc and the trucks, planes and trains that run on them require constant expensive maintenance – especially roads. Oceans require no maintenance at all. Ships are much cheaper to run and carry much larger amounts of cargo.

    BRI runs through some of the most impoverished parts of the world. They are not much of a market.

    And the cherry on top is that BRI is in any case designed as a debt trap for all of those impoverished nations who are gulled into it. They will end up with nothing except huge debts and much less sovereignty. China will end up owning and running it all, the port facilities and railways and so on, as has already happened in some places. China is a debt predator and BRI is nothing more than a scheme to steal from the desperately poor third world.

  3. Sasha says:

    This has got Soros written all over it. Remember how he made his name – he tanked the Pound Sterling and broke the Bank of England. This was the work of a psychopath or clique of them. Such is our lot in life – psychopaths will always rule, trick and screw us. Given all other things being equal (intellect, will etc) they will always prevail due to a lack of any moral constraint. Will always climb to the top of the pyramid. Will go on forever too, as most of us non-psychos are confronted with cognitive dissonance – can not comprehend someone willing to commit financial or literal genocide in order to advance one’s position. We can’t even believe a regular pol would look us in the eye and cheerfully lie ffs… We WILL get fooled again, and again…

    • Agree: Irish Savant
    • Replies: @Flubber
    , @John Chuckman
  4. Polemos says:

    It looks like there’s an autocorrect from ‘massive damage’ to “massage damage”, but it’s “worth it.”

    That’s a good point about the decoupling of the two economies. When Orwell described the three competing warring states, he had it that Oceania sided with one or the other, but never the others allied against Oceania. Our world is an exploration of what happens when they do.

    • Agree: Quintus, mh505
  5. Ron Unz says:

    Well, I think there’s a certain amount of circumstantial evidence suggesting that the Coronavirus outbreak may have been an American bioweapon attack against China (and Iran).

    But if so, I’m *extremely* skeptical that the perpetrators ever intended or imagined that it would leak back into the US and inflict the horrific economic and social damage that now seems unavoidable. How to explain this lack lack of foresight?

    The most obvious answer is that they were stupid and incompetent, but here’s another point to consider…

    In late 2002 there was the outbreak of SARS in China, a related virus but that was far more deadly and somewhat different in other characteristics. The virus killed hundreds of Chinese and spread into a few other countries before it was controlled and stamped out. The impact on the US and Europe was negligible, with just a small scattering of cases and only a death or two.

    So if American biowarfare analysts were considering a Coronavirus attack against China, isn’t it quite possible they would have said to themselves that since SARS never significantly leaked back into the US or Europe, we’d similarly remain insulated from the Coronavirus? Obviously, such an analysis was foolish and mistaken, but would it have seemed so implausible at the time?

    https://www.unz.com/article/was-coronavirus-a-biowarfare-attack-against-china/#comment-3775042

  6. Well, I have only recently heard of a guy named Francis Boyle,a law professor out of the Univ. Of Illinois. He is apparently an expert on bio-warfare treaties. He claims covid-19 is manmade,period.
    That is a very scary notion,from which most people will flee.
    As I have accepted that 9/11 was “the usual suspects,” I guess it is definitely possible.

    • Replies: @Delta G
    , @Wyatt
    , @hcl
  7. Sasha says:
    @Ron Unz

    Maybe, but my take is an engineered market crash. This looks to me like a Nathan Rothschild sort of trick (according to legend) – propagating fake news about Napoleon’s victory at Waterloo, crashing the markets, then snapping up the whole LSE for a penny to the pound. If so, you have to admire it, the sheer genius, the psychopathic beauty of it all. As a bonus, the Reichstag Fire also is an extremely efficient delivery system for the eugenics payload – a very virulent strain that almost exclusively targets the social burden (pensioners and already ill) while leaving alone the tax-farm base! Never in the history of tax-farming have the sheeple been stampeded and fleeced so thoroughly! Bravo!

  8. So, Israel will trot out a vaccine and it will be made mandatory, just watch.

    • Replies: @Tucker
  9. Flubber says:

    “The US cannot win a trade war with China.”

    What kind of bollocks is this.

    Of course the US can win a trade war.

    The US is the customer, with the enormous trade deficit. Trump has been hugely effective with his tariff’s policy in rehoming manufacturing to the US – a process that will vastly accelerate thanks to the Corona virus outbreak.

    I agree that 9-11 stink to high heaven and that PNAC are unmitigated bastards, but this capitulation to China is balls.

    • Replies: @Kevin Barrett
    , @Anon
  10. Delta G says:
    @Ron Unz

    Stupidity is certainly an American Military essential behavior for promotion and success in the current US Armed Forces.

    But you can’t have someone clever enough to create a Recombinant Designer Pathogen and be in the US Military.

    However, the psyops fucks would likely be ready to game the system should a natural outbreak occur which would be called a Pandemic even when its not and make everyone of our low quality leaders $hit their pants and go totally crazy. A mild fart with the claim its poison gas would make the Stock Markets Collapse.

    • Replies: @SaneClownPosse
  11. Flubber says:
    @Sasha

    What is truly apparent is just how much of the MSM is populated with utterly conscience free purveyors of bullshit.

    Just today, the media is obsessing with trying to stop Trump using the words “Chinese Virus” instead of investigating the Chinese authorities suppression of the initial medical analysis of the outbreak.

    The challenge the people of the US have is that their media and their politicians are whores who sell their allegiance to any corpulent rich vulture who happens along whether Chinese or chosen.

    Whether this will or can be addressed is more fundamental than anything else.

    A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.

  12. But if so, I’m *extremely* skeptical that the perpetrators ever intended or imagined that it would leak back into the US and inflict the horrific economic and social damage that now seems unavoidable. How to explain this lack lack of foresight?

    This is the same issue with cyberwar viruses. One can infect computers in Iran, but with the internet they may be passed onto the entire world, just like rap music.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  13. gotmituns says:

    coronavirus is just the latest set of lies from government and media…

  14. Sean says:

    Kevin Barrett has worked out the truth of the coronavirus just like he worked out that 9/11 was a false flag. Given his track record, why would they have waited until after he had worked out the truth about the coronavirus?

    Why didn’t they get him neutralised by bankruptcy, or framed and sent to prison or mental hospital, before they launched the coronavirus. If they were planning a bioweapon false flag, Barrett would be under tight surveillance. He would have been the most dangerous person to the conspiracy in the world As such he would have the most urgent priority for liquidation.

    The assassins’ supervisor did not get the Email obviously, and now Barrett has solved the mystery and they cannot use the virus, heart attack, stoke, car crash suicide or just a botched robbery because that would be too obvious.

  15. antibeast says:
    @Ron Unz

    But if so, I’m *extremely* skeptical that the perpetrators ever intended or imagined that it would leak back into the US and inflict the horrific economic and social damage that now seems unavoidable. How to explain this lack lack of foresight?

    One word: Trump. Because he could very well lose his reelection bid if the pandemic causes an economic recession which now seems highly likely given the stock market collapse.

    Cui Bono? The people OPPOSED to Trump, variously referred to as the “Deep State” or the “National Security State” as described by Gore Vidal in his book which by the way Julian Assange was holding while being hauled away from the Ecuadorian Embassy.

    After Russiagate and Ukrainegate, THEY finally hit the bullseye with Coronagate.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
    , @tomo
  16. Delta G says:
    @Father O'Hara

    Francis may be a Law Professor but he is not a Molecular Biologist who spent 30 years making recombinant organisms by what is called Genetic Engineering.

    There is no need to claim that COVID-19 is a bioweapon since this type of Virus occurs naturally and has been documented many times over with much more severe pathology than this variant.

    It would be impossible to hide the genetic sequences used for selection of the recombinant virus that are essential for creation of a designer pathogen. The sequence of this variant and of other strains of the variant have been deduced and published. That’s is why is seems very clear that it came from bats which have been previously shown to act as reservoir for this type of Coronavirus.

    The self inflicted damage to the World Economy has little to do with this viruses pathology, and much more to do with the hype of the pathology by those who are benefiting from this economic collapse.

    One recent Scientific Manuscript reports on the 565 Japanese citizens evacuated from Wuhan by Japan. Of these 565 I believe 63 exhibited clinical flu like symptoms. All 565 individuals were quarantined and tested for COVID-19 by RT-PCR on day 0 and day 5. Of the 63 who had Flu like clinical symptoms only 9 were positive for COVID-19. Four other individuals who were asymptomatic were also positive for COVID-19 on Days 0 and 5 but never developed any clinical symptoms even 30 days later. These investigators estimate that perhaps there are 30% of those infected that do not develop disease.

    So there are individuals who have no symptoms and we also know from the clinical studies in China that 80+% of infected individuals have mild symptoms, maybe like a cold which is the most common effect of Coronavirus infection in humans.

  17. The United States might respond with draconian measures, scaling back civil liberties, allowing wider surveillance of citizens, detention of suspects, and use of deadly force.”

    A draconian response might also include outlawing the use of cash due to it being a conduit for transmission, compelling everyone to use credit/debit cards and online transactions. A further step could include forced vaccinations with access to banking services denied for those who refuse.

    The Australian ABC reported today that the State of Queensland (the Florida of Australia) has passed legislation with a penalty of a $A13000 fine for anyone refusing to comply with health authorities.

  18. @Polemos

    Massage damage would not at all have a happy ending.

    • LOL: Digital Samizdat
  19. Wyatt says:
    @Father O'Hara

    If he’s not an expert on the actual virology, what’s his logic to suggest that it’s manmade?

    • Replies: @Parfois1
    , @SethF1968
  20. Sasha says:
    @Flubber

    I watched that surreal affair, mind-blowing. There was Trump, shilling for the psycho jackals, saying “This isn’t anybody’s fault” over and over, then it degenerated into the semantics debate, arguing if it’s OK to call it the “Kung Flu” ffs… What a spectacle, Trump betraying all his supporters quite openly. Should be Mussolini’d

    • Replies: @MollyA
  21. This is a pretty good article. I’ll probably link to it.

    Some people think this is coming from City of London types. The US pursued a “strategy of tension” with China that may have allowed third party actors to intervene and get them fighting each other.

    There has been some Bad Blood between British elites and China for awhile now. It’s not clear why.

    In this scheme, the US is the patsy, the Oswald to take the blame.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  22. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @Polemos

    Check this link out:

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/03/17/coronavirus-universal-basic-income-andrew-yang-134922

    The real gem in the whole article are the observations made by Yang himself:

    YANG: That’s what freaks me out about the whole thing. What we’re doing is saying things like, “Keep your social distance,” and trying to stop the spread that way, which is fine. But we have shit for data. Like, we don’t know what the infection rate is. And so, there’s no reason we would ever be able to give the ‘all-clear.’ If you don’t have any data, this whole thing is a nightmare that doesn’t end. When you close schools, what gives you the all-clear to say, “OK, open them again”? Nothing. There’s no data to compare it to. This whole thing is a fear-based approach with no end in sight. There’s no catalyst to ever sound the all-clear. This whole thing is so fucked up.

    YANG: I think the nature of that guidance has to be different, personally. I think they need to be transparent about what kind of data we’re relying on, to give people a sense of the timeline. Right now, our sense of the future is so cloudy. And you get the sense the president went from not taking this seriously to suddenly realizing its seriousness, and now we’re reacting in various ways to slow the spread of the virus. But then what? I would be clearer as to what the timeline looks like, what data we’re going to rely upon, how we’re going to get that data, what steps we’re taking to increase testing capacity and just give people a sense of the future.

    We need to know now what the future can look like under different scenarios and then be presented with what scenario we’re in when that time comes. We’ve been on lockdown for half a week. Right now, the American people don’t have any visibility into whether it’s going to be four more weeks or four more months, and we don’t know how those judgments are going to determined. As president, I would say, “Look, here’s the information, here’s the dashboard, here’s what we’re lining up, here’s what we’re hoping for, here’s how circumstances could change, and thank you for doing your part—if you proceed with like the rest of the country in flattening the curve and keeping things under this level, then we can look forward to this.” You know, so we could actually have a sense of accomplishment and purpose.

    So here we have it, replicated throughout the whole of the Western world. An open-ended clamp-down based on fear, with no timeline or road map, and no conditions set on when (or IF) things will get back to normal.

    For now, smells really fishy. Even if DS (Deep State) did not intentionally engineer this circumstance, they are decisively and very swiftly exploiting it to exert extreme control over everything.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  23. Hey, Dr. Barrett.

    Is there any other way to get in touch with you by email other than your Gmail?

    Google is an arm of the deep state; it’s a deep state apparatus for surveillance and information & narrative management. It’s was incubated and nultured from the get-go by the NSA/CIA/etc, with Page & Brin being the front-men.

    Please read the following articles in their entirety:

    https://qz.com/1145669/googles-true-origin-partly-lies-in-cia-and-nsa-research-grants-for-mass-surveillance/
    http://archive.is/Q752M

    https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/how-the-cia-made-google-e836451a959e
    http://archive.is/1neh1

    https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/why-google-made-the-nsa-2a80584c9c1
    http://archive.is/NEnSh

    In the 1st one, the author discuss how it was set up, but then backtracks a bit because, my guess is, he’s afraid of going too far and telling too much truth. The 2nd & 3rd articles are two-parter articles that go together and written by Nafeez Ahmed (you’re familiar with him). They’re extremely well-researched and very detailed. The evidence is undeniable.

    I’m sure you know or suspect this already to some extent. So why haven’t you changed your email service? There are plenty of services that aren’t as compromised.

    I’d like to get in touch with you, but hesitant to do so via Gmail.

    . . .

    If you have an alternative email, could you drop that address to my email that’s under this handle name at Unz? Or if you don’t mind people seeing that email address, could you include it in a reply to this comment?

    Would be much appreciated.

  24. A very good article by Kevin Barrett with many common sense insights such as that the Zionists “doth protest too much” when conspiracy theories are proposed that might endanger Zionist interests without even mentioning Jews, or the amazing confluence of “coincidences”. All signs point to the same “Anglo-Zionist” perpetrators as of 9/11, with the same global and local (Middle Eastern) interests.

    Whether blowback on the West of the Corona virus was not foreseen by the perpetrators or on the contrary part of the plan remains to be seen. Anyway, the perpetrators will not “let the crisis go to waste” to use a Rahm Emanuel expression.

    However Barretts claim of a “27 million Muslim holocaust” post 9/11 is a tenfold exaggeration. Deaths in Afghanistan + Iraq + Libya + Syria is 2,7 million at most. Muslim refugees is another matter.

    At the end of his article Barrett suggests that a real war against China is in the making while he first contended that only a war-by-other-means is the plan. A real war against China cannot be won by the US. At least the crazies who perpetrated this virus conspiracy understand that. As the Chinese say : we are living in “interesting times”.

  25. hcl says:
    @Father O'Hara

    We are in dire need of serious geneticists to post their sober findings.

    This Supervirus certainly is looking like the work of Cartoon Supervillain… wow has like, 6 Supergains of Function.

    And the Fake News is promoting a very definite agenda… it is looking like the “World War 6” that John Bolton wanted.

  26. @antibeast

    On the contrary, for the deep state Trump is the ideal puppet. Those who are against Trump belong to the surface state, i.e. Democrats, Leftists in general and the equally Leftist main stream media. Real policy in the US is only made by the deep state.

    • Replies: @antibeast
  27. Max Parry says: • Website

    Great article, Kevin. I have my doubts the Spanish flu was born of ‘natural causes’ given its place of origin at a US military base in Kansas.

    • Agree: Curmudgeon
    • Replies: @TT
  28. Let me cut through all this speculative noise with Occam’s Razor.

    The virus is natural. The CCP elites are using it in exactly the same way the USG and EU elites are. Both financial systems and economies were clearly crashing beginning in early September. Now the elites get to blame all the troubles on a virus (which isn’t actually killing anyone in interesting numbers). Absent the WuFlu they’d all risk getting strung up pretty soon. Now instead of being called out for the decade+ of ineptitude that lead to a collapsing global bubble economy, they get to be praised as heroes that saved everyone from dying.

    Now that I’ve cleared up all that nonsense about a bioweapon and grand scheme to kneecap China, I have to say that the “China inevitably taking over” narrative is rather ridiculous, flu or not. Japan re-ascendant and taking back Manchokou is more believable. As the USA washes its hands of these messes overseas and pulls back homeward, China is in the worst position. All its neighbors hate it and will check it. China has been the #1 beneficiary of Pax Americana this century. Well, Americans are rapidly losing interest in that project.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @animalogic
    , @Popeye
  29. @Ron Unz

    But if so, I’m *extremely* skeptical that the perpetrators ever intended or imagined that it would leak back into the US and inflict the horrific economic and social damage that now seems unavoidable. How to explain this lack lack of foresight?

    Dr. Unz,

    That’s because — if it indeed is a bio-weapon — the value of the attack for this particular case does not lie in the attack itself. The goal is the propaganda that can be generated from the attack, i.e. the propaganda value. Words in general (and therefore propaganda) have real-world material power. It affects people’s thinking, which in turn affects people’s actions and behavior, which in turn have real-world consequences. Propaganda of this sort would then utterly damage the world’s perception of China, which could then affect China’s economic, diplomatic, and political dealings.

    If the infection were contained within China’s borders or within isolated parts of East Asia, then not much of a big fuss could be made about it. The infection needs to spread for it to have propaganda value. Note that Covid-19 has a very low fatality rate compared to SARS or other recent infection outbreaks. Yet it is very infectious (meaning, many people getting infected / high rate of infection). Covid-19 is a virus that is very infectious BUT has a low fatality rate — exactly the kind of virus you want if you wanted something to spread.

    Also, the elites are willing to incur losses in the short-run. They’ll weather whatever short-run losses just fine, and they’ll make up for it in other ways. The real people that will get hit economically in a permanent way are the low-income, the middle-class, and even the upper middle-class. The oligarchs won’t.

    What they’re really concerned about is the long-run, and that’s smart on them. They’ll have real losses in the long-run if China completes its rise. China is set to complete its overall rise (not on everything, but just overall) in the probably the next 5 to 10 years. Much of the indicators for this has been covered by that Godfree guy and by others. So something must be done to stop it.

    • Agree: Quintus, mh505, Meimou
    • Replies: @Rev. Spooner
    , @utu
  30. Anonymous[428] • Disclaimer says:
    @Trinity

    And don’t forget to add that such a magical cure – should it be created – would become weaponized to exclude the usual suspects (Iran, Syria, Taliban-Afghanistan, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Cuba, Iraq, possibly war-ravaged Libya and who knows, even impoverished shee-thole nations like Haiti and African countries) from having access to it. Also include the offer by Trump to German firm CureVac to move its Covid-19 vaccine research operations to the US so the vaccine could be used exclusively for Americans.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/coronavirus-vaccine-trump-us-cases-germany-carevac-a9403646.html

    • Replies: @Herald
  31. Hi, Dr. Barrett.

    I wanted to repost this comment I made to Unz on this article just so you don’t miss it.

    But if so, I’m *extremely* skeptical that the perpetrators ever intended or imagined that it would leak back into the US and inflict the horrific economic and social damage that now seems unavoidable. How to explain this lack lack of foresight?

    Dr. Unz,

    That’s because — if it indeed is a bio-weapon — the value of the attack for this particular case does not lie in the attack itself. The goal is the propaganda that can be generated from the attack, i.e. the propaganda value. Words in general (and therefore propaganda) have real-world material power. It affects people’s thinking, which in turn affects people’s actions and behavior, which in turn have real-world consequences. Propaganda of this sort would then utterly damage the world’s perception of China, which could then affect China’s economic, diplomatic, and political dealings.

    If the infection were contained within China’s borders or within isolated parts of East Asia, then not much of a big fuss could be made about it. The infection needs to spread for it to have propaganda value. Note that Covid-19 has a very low fatality rate compared to SARS or other recent infection outbreaks. Yet it is very infectious (meaning, many people getting infected / high rate of infection). Covid-19 is a virus that is very infectious BUT has a low fatality rate — exactly the kind of virus you want if you wanted something to spread.

    Also, the elites are willing to incur losses in the short-run. They’ll weather whatever short-run losses just fine, and they’ll make up for it in other ways. The real people that will get hit economically in a permanent way are the low-income, the middle-class, and even the upper middle-class. The oligarchs won’t.

    What they’re really concerned about is the long-run, and that’s smart on them. They’ll have real losses in the long-run if China completes its rise. China is set to complete its overall rise (not on everything, but just overall) in the probably the next 5 to 10 years. Much of the indicators for this has been covered by that Godfree guy and by others. So something must be done to stop it.

  32. @Sean

    Chances of Barrett accessing the mountains of information that were available to Snowden, Assange et al may be slim to zilch. Barrett will be allowed to speculate to his heart’s content, no matter how plausible his arguments may seem. A handful of official emails on Covid-19 as a US/Zionist weapon made public and Barrett will be history.

  33. refl says:

    After Russiagate and Ukrainegate, THEY finally hit the bullseye with Coronagate.

    And Coronagate contains just about as much reality as those other “gates” – the experience of gateology tell us that once the story is up and runing,it does not matter, if the back story resembles anything in the real world.

    The Chinese at first might really have believed that they were under a bioweapons attack. They would have kept it secret at first, not to further the panic.
    After they had inflicted tremendous damage on their own economy they could not confess that they had been taken in by a panic. So, they play along with the story that there really is a dangerous virus around.
    This way, they force the same debilitating countermessures on western economies. While they can overcome the blow, European economies are so weak by now that they will fold. Which leaves China even gaining from their gambit.

    As for the US, it has long been established that the anti trumpers will stop at nothing and blow their country to pieces ten times over, if it only carried a minimal chance of hurting Trump.

    It is China and the Zionists who will be cashing in on this. A hell of a combination.

    • Replies: @Issar
  34. dimples says:

    Call me sceptical. I can’t really buy into this bio-psychological warfare thrill-up that Mr Barrett is promoting. Possibly the virus is an engineered product, I don’t know, that is up to those with bio-molecular expertise and experience. But released on purpose? A stretch to be sure given the all too predictable consequences. According to Zerohedge, that fountain of financial knowledge, the world financial system is about to go into meltdown and full-on mega-collapse. Undoubtedly that is a good thing for most of us peasants, since it might rid us of some of the vampire squid parasite class until they print enough money to patch up the decrapitated system again. Cui bono? The masses, apart from a few oldies that will drop off before their time, and who cares about them? Sorry I can’t see the conspiracy here without some sort of evidence apart from rabid speculation from the usual suspects, or should that be rabid speculation about the usual suspects.

  35. Excellent very thoughtful article.
    Should be on the front page of every paper in the US.

    I’ll pass this on to as many as possible.

    • Agree: Iris
  36. Sparkon says:
    @Flubber

    This passage you have plagiarized is commonly misattributed to Cicero, but it was penned by Taylor Caldwell in her 1965 work A Pillar of Iron, a fictional novel about the Roman orator.

    A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly against the city. But the traitor moves among those within the gates freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears no traitor; he speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their garments, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation; he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city; he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared.

    — Taylor Caldwell, A Pillar of Iron (1965) ch. 56

    https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/acref/9780191843730.001.0001/q-oro-ed5-00017226

    • Thanks: Sasha
  37. dimples says:
    @dimples

    Now ask yourself this question What does this bio-warfare beat-up remind you of? Yep, its Russiagate all over again. Repeat the accusation over and over again, while pretending to have evidence, when you don’t, while beating yourself into a frenzy. Some people clearly don’t get enough sex. Or perhaps they just need a good stiff drink (no pun intended) to calm down but their religion forbids it for some obscure ritual reason.

    On the other hand, use Occam’s Razor. The pandemic is obviously a cunning plan by the Jew scientists to sell lots of vaccine.

  38. @Sean

    You Khazars have a kill list and it’s a big one. It just isn’t the time yet to take it out and start checking off names.
    Keep that in mind goyim.
    BTW how dare you take an Irish name.

    • Agree: Alfred, Druid
  39. One thing I’ve noticed on comment sections else where is that the zionist hasbarat shills who for years have promoted hate towards Arabs, Muslims, Persians, Germans and the Irish (to name a few) are now coming down hard on China and the Chinese.
    They are also the ones doing the most fear-mongering.
    That alone, should tell you who is behind this.
    I say it’s not the Chinese flu it’s the Jew Flu.

    • Agree: Trinity
  40. @Sean

    Absolute genius.

    While it’s safe to say I’ve had many a difference with you in the past, I must say that this particular contribution of yours is — without the slightest hint of doubt — the most profoundly persuasive post you have made to date.

    I mean, it’s really just that obvious: there couldn’t possibly be a zionist hand in this because anyone like Kevin Barrett who openly pens rational theories about it would have been snuffed out long ago. Simply brilliant.

    Never mind the Mighty Wurlitzer. An ex-professor regularly vilified as an anti-Semitic conspiracy nut must be assassinated lest his mighty reputation among the upper echelons of world government prove too formidable to handle.

    You sure you haven’t tested positive yet? You’re really not on your game.

    • LOL: Parfois1, Meimou
    • Replies: @Sean
  41. seeuhay says:

    I am shocked and pissed that the fascists allowed the CommIntern to use their bag of tricks.

    I guess twenty years behind a wheel can make you a bit sleepy, if not plain masturbated into a self-congratulatory nirvana, having smashed the impeachment Don Quixotes into political oblivion.

    Cankles never sleeps, you morons. She’s holding the wheel now, and will not let go, until you puke your last.

    So what’s your next move, Sleeping Beauty? Fart out another gazillion bucks into the wind, with nothing to show for it in the end? Did not work the first time, will not work this time. Better ask who came out with that plan, and have him taken out to the woodshed for a permanent vacation.

    How about you start playing their bag of tricks, instead? Not even Cankles would be able to counter that. Like in “don’t get mad, get even”?

  42. I could not for the life of me figure out why blaming two non-Jews, Cheney and Rumsfeld, elicited that kind of reaction. It also seemed odd that anyone talking about the explosive demolitions of World Trade Center Towers 1, 2, and 7 was reviled as a Jew-hater.

    The same reason the protagonist tears up the floorboards in The Tell-Tale Heart.

  43. Anon[308] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    Why didn’t they get him neutralised by bankruptcy, or framed and sent to prison or mental hospital, before they launched the coronavirus.

    Sean, you sound like the economists in that old joke:

    Two economists are walking down the street and see a $20 bill lying on the sidewalk. The first economist says, “Look at that $20 bill.” The second says, “That can’t really be a $20 bill lying there, because if it were, someone would have picked it up already.” So they walk on, leaving the $20 bill undisturbed.

    • Replies: @Druid
  44. @Ron Unz

    Also, something I want to add. It might seem silly to say, look at all the sports event and the attendant media coverage of sports entertainment that has been put on hold for the year. All that content generated from the sporting events themselves and the media needed to cover them — that means a lot of people (and America loves its sports) who imbibe and are addicted to said content that are gonna be very angry. This alone who have people pissed off.

    If it indeed is a bio-attack, it is a momentous point in history in terms of the propaganda.

  45. FB says: • Website
    @Ron Unz

    So if American biowarfare analysts were considering a Coronavirus attack against China, isn’t it quite possible they would have said to themselves that since SARS never significantly leaked back into the US or Europe, we’d similarly remain insulated from the Coronavirus?

    The SARS virus may not be an apt comparison…for the simple reason that it is far too deadly…apparently [I’m not a virus expert] viruses that kill a lot aren’t successful because the only way they can reproduce is through a host…

    Viruses live on a delicate balance, don’t they? They have to be able to thrive without killing their host.

    Right. The ones that kill off their host quickly will disappear. With the SARS virus, it’s no surprise that killing 10 percent of its host, it wasn’t able to establish itself as a pandemic virus on this planet.

    Are there any signs that this coronavirus will kill itself?

    This one has a lower pathogenicity. The lower its virulence, the more likely it’ll become part of an endemic, part of a seasonal event. That’s one of the big things that’s going to be a worry.

    –Leading Virologist Dennis Carroll

  46. FB says: • Website

    The US cannot win a trade war with China. It cannot win a nuclear war. It cannot win a conventional land war. Yet from the neocon perspective it needs some kind of war ASAP before China grows too strong.

    Of course those are plain facts that are clear to thinking people…very few of which will be commenting on this particular website…I notice the yowls of protest are already starting on this thread…brace for many more…

    Strategic analysts agree that the necessary prelude to ramped up US-vs.-China warfare would be a decoupling of the US and Chinese economies. That decoupling is happening now, thanks to coronavirus.

    True again, and an important point…I was surprised to see the often-sensible Tucker Carlson going into full China bashing today…calling exactly for this kind of economic decoupling from China…and encouraging Trump in his belligerent tone towards China…

    • Replies: @Minnesota Mary
  47. FB says: • Website
    @Flubber

    Flubbering Idiot says…

    …the Chinese authorities suppression of the initial medical analysis of the outbreak.

    Total BS…

    These agit-prop China-bashing stories have been totally discredited by the great results the Chinese have achieved…very effective and very efficient…let’s see now how the US copes…[why do I have the feeling it won’t be nearly as smooth…?]

    • Agree: Iris
  48. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    “So the United States is run by lunatics, by psychopaths who are entirely capable of launching World War 3 by way of a biological warfare attack on China and Iran, with the Iran component presumably led by Israel. That’s the most likely explanation for what we’re seeing.”

    This is the kind of rot Press TV publishes.

    The US is run by lunatics who are absolutely devoid of empathy for anyone else, unless it’s their fellow war mongers or their colonial master, Israel.

    The list of false flags the ruling US clique have used–to accomplish their goals–go back to the Spanish-American war and have only gotten bloodier and more sophisticated.

    Take this excerpt from the PNAC declaration:

    And advanced forms of biological warfare that can target specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool” (p. 60).

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3249.htm

    Don’t know about UNZ readers, but creating bio-weapons that target specific genotypes sounds like what took place in China, then Iran, where the virus mutated to target Persians.

    If you go to the PNAC doc and read the names of the directors, staff and signatories, it reads like a Bar Mitzah guest list, that even has our old friend, former Pentagon comptroller Rabbi Dov S. Zakheim listed. Wonder if the good Rabbi ever found those missing Pentagon trillions?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century#People_associated_with_the_PNAC

    The Israeli masterminded 9/11 false flag has been almost consecrated–like the holocaust–and anyone who dares to question the official lies, stands to lose their jobs, stature and be endlessly vilified for asking historical questions. Punitive measures that Mr. Barrett has first-hand knowledge of.

    • Replies: @refl
    , @FB
    , @Iris
  49. An anti-Islam propaganda tidal wave swept the globe, washing away the Islamic Awakening surge and leaving in its place the 27-million-Muslim holocaust that continues today.

    The implication of this is that the US was responsible for these deaths, I suppose this is technically true but who really pulled the trigger in the vast majority of these deaths? It was mostly one group of low IQ Muslims fighting another group of low IQ Muslims. I like Jews being put under the microscope, but why does Kevin Barrett have to do this ‘Muslims dindu nuffin’ routine? I can only wish the UK police force was as based as the IDF and put lead in some Muslim knees to keep them in place

    [MORE]

    These Muslims are mostly not even from countries the evil West bombed, they were going to come here anyway for gibs, so it’s not like they will all go back to their Islamic paradises if we stop bombing ‘their countries’, that is just a non-sequitur justification they use for demographic takeover.

    What Western police forces should start doing;

    If all Jews just went to Israel and stopped subverting White countries, Israel would be the most based country in the world.

    • Troll: AnonStarter
    • Replies: @Greg Bacon
    , @Per/Norway
  50. Thank you Kevin Barrett for another informative article. Also thank you to UNZ for his support!
    I just have one simple comment for both of you. I love the other fat man and I think his last name is something like Pimpeo! He expanded the US sanctions against Iran to include the antiviral medications this past Tuesday! He justified his action to furthering “extreme pressure” on Iranians and then he said the Iranian government is the corona virus in the region! Meaning it has to be exterminated! Isn’t Mr Pimpeo a real good person?
    You may want to add the Pimpeo’s action against the Iranians to the list of your justifications that this virus was a man made virus and spread for evil reasons! Perhaps you are giving the stupid planners and executioner of the plan more credit than they deserve by saying that this plan may eventually save the western imperialism! As you said a bunch of inept and incompetent people planned and executed the spread of this virus but it blew up in their faces beyond their imagination. They just didn’t realize that this virus can walk, spread and ultimately not discriminating against anyone, weak and strong or rich and poor!

  51. I spent most of 2004 through 2006 blaming Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld for 9/11.

    …With 2020 hindsight I can now see that I should have interpreted 9/11 as a likely false flag immediately, based on cui bono.”

    Better late than never. To anybody following that event on television back then, it should have already been obvious by the end of that same day that this was a professionally planned operation, based on the following clues:

    • As the event was still unfolding, Ehud Barak was at BBC headquarters to provide the desired narrative;

    • George W. Bush was not immediately whisked away from elementary school by his security agents.

    • Symmetrical destruction of twin towers was inconsistent with consequences from a plane impact;

    • Third tower collapsed rapidly for no apparent or plausible reason except a controlled demolition;

    • Implausibility of emerging story involving coordinated Muslim hijackings with box cutter blades;

    • Repetitive (scripted) “New Pearl Harbor” mantra by newscasters preceded by movie all summer long.

    And a few weeks later it should have been obvious that the continuing molten metal and bedrock at ground-zero was a lingering effect of the nuclear detonations below the three buildings that precipitated their collapse. Even after so many years, some critics have still been reluctant to acknowledge this particularly hideous aspect of the operation.

    The question of whether the virus is naturally evolved or man-made is still open.

    A month ago Professor Boyle at University of Illinois publicly reported the findings from the scientific literature, that the virus had obviously been manipulated to provide “gain of function” properties, in other words, weaponized. In the meantime, virtually nobody in alternative media believes the official story purporting that the virus evolved naturally from animals.

    However, had the virus been released intentionally during the Wuhan military games prior to Halloween, then the mass epidemic effects would definitely have already been conspicuously apparent by Thanksgiving, in late November, due to the rapid exponential infection rates in such a huge metropolis, instead of at least a month later, toward the end of the year. So the specific conspiratorial conjecture presented here – virus released in late October to then cause maximum damage three months later while remaining exclusively constrained within China– is already necessarily flawed and therefore implausible.

    Since there has been so much talk over the past years, for instance by Alex Jones, of plans to use the need to protect a population against a biological weapons attack as a convenient pretext for governments to curtail everyone’s freedoms and thereby condition people to accept such measures, this now evolving scenario was surely in the back of many people’s minds. With such contingencies already in place, it is easy to presume that, once an accidental release had actually occurred, those who advocated such a new type of authoritarianism would not miss the opportunity to exploit the crisis in an attempt to shape future events accordingly.

    Yet this new event can also be effectively harnessed by those who oppose the many adverse manifestations of “Globalism” (open borders facilitating mass migration, labor arbitrage through outsourcing, interdependent international supply chains, authoritarian government, curtailing public criticism through imposed censorship, disrupting social cohesion, etc.), so that type of endeavor to resist these globalist trends would be a worthwhile focus.

    • Replies: @Anon
  52. @Sparkon

    Here is a bio of Taylor Caldwell.
    http://www.jbs.org/taylor-caldwell/

    Appears she foresaw what is happening now.

    • Agree: Sasha
  53. The big players, even as they are fighting one another, will agree that the current outbreak is an excellent opportunity to test a few things and to increase their control over their respective populations. Whether the virus came from a bat or a lab, they will take note, but in the end it matters little as they are all engaged in the same neverending campaign of theft and murder.

  54. Alfred says:
    @Si1ver1ock

    There has been some Bad Blood between British elites and China for awhile now. It’s not clear why.

    Hong Kong was considered to be the “Crown Jewel of the British Empire”

    • Replies: @GeeBee
  55. Sean says:
    @AnonStarter

    An ex-professor regularly vilified as an anti-Semitic conspiracy nut must be assassinated lest his mighty reputation among the upper echelons of world government prove too formidable to handle.

    If having told the truth about 9/11 resulted in Doctor Barrett being so discredited by the establishment that he is now ineffective in exposing and preventing a conspiracy from starting WW3, then it was a mistake for him to have been honest and open about his findings regarding 9/11.

    It is indeed fortunate that really smart people like AnonStarter have kept their powder dry by hiding behind a pseudonym. He thus retained a real world reputation for probity, brilliance, and level headedness, which now can be deployed to foil the WW3 plot through him writing about it under his true identity. When he reveals who he is, all who know of his achievements will testify to AnonStarter’s bona fides being beyond question, of that I am sure.

    • Replies: @Alfred
    , @AnonStarter
  56. antibeast says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    On the contrary, for the deep state Trump is the ideal puppet. Those who are against Trump belong to the surface state, i.e. Democrats, Leftists in general and the equally Leftist main stream media. Real policy in the US is only made by the deep state.

    The ideal puppet of the Deep State? Obama. How else does a Nobel Peace Prize winner end up starting more wars than any President in US history while promoting homo rights, freedumb and dumbocracy by drone-killing thousands of Muslim civilians? And nobody dare oppose Obama lest one get accused of being “racist”!

  57. @Ron Unz

    But if so, I’m *extremely* skeptical that the perpetrators ever intended or imagined that it would leak back into the US and inflict the horrific economic and social damage that now seems unavoidable. How to explain this lack lack of foresight?

    An estimated 180,000,000 Chinese travel around the globe annually, that’s a whopping 493,151 every single day, so, what are the odds of someone releasing a virus in China and it coming back across the pond?

    Look at all the political benefits of this fallout: arresting people on mere suspicions [Denmark], more intruding surveillance [US], cashless society [Italy], etc.

    Once goaded into a pen, who will be allowed to climb back out?

    $1,5 trillion cash injection: evaporated in a day
    $80 billion ‘support’
    $1 trillion [including bailouts for the usual suspects]

    Where did/does all the money come from?

    • Replies: @9/11 Inside job
  58. @Malcolms_brother

    Could be a positive side-effect, if some statistically significant portion snap out of their brain-damaged hypnotic entrainment habit, they could indeed take up some intellectual habits conducive to civic participation and productive enterprise.

    • Replies: @Herald
  59. Forgive my ignorance please, but what is Anglo-Zionist exactly? Am I right to understand it simply in this way:
    Anglo: origin from north-west Europe, very small group people only stand for some white elite old money, totally neglect the benefit of other common white, not to say other people in this world.
    Zionist: Jew & Israel, have to serve the Anglo since Zionist have no backups no hidings, some times function as scapegoats and get given up or set up by the Anglo to ease the angry of common white or other elite.
    Correct me with simple and short words please.

    What is the relationship between Anglo-Zionist and Deep State? People and organization? Or does Deep State include more complicated groups of people? Certainly US+EU far big enough to breed much more than only one/two groups of elite.

    Common Chinese are generally very ignorant with all these stuff.
    To us, Anglo-Zionist generally equals west white elite. While the elite and the people deserve each other. Same body, different faces. They have some internal conflict over the benefit shares, which is universal phenomenon. But that makes no big differences in front of us.
    We do need more knowledge about these stuff.

    As for Jews, Chinese experience with Jew & Israel is also very simple:
    1. During ancient times, some Jew some to China, settled, assimilated, become Han Chinese.
    2. During World War times, some Jew come to China, get shelter, and went back to Europe.
    3. During recent times, Israel is a well developed country we trade with.

    It’s noticed that some rich Jews today live in China are very active in media and entertainment. Chinese are very fond of them, and see them as west white/foreigners/expat, not much idea about their Jewish identity since Chinese are basically not allergic to Jews.
    It’s just OK that everyone get his/her talent and heels.

    What do I want to say here is also simple: point fingers is boring. Your elite and your people deserve each other, just like master and slaves deserve each other, well deserved, LOL, so do ours.

    Maybe you( as a general term) heard some ethnic Chinese keep pointing fingers at Chinese elite (nowadays CCP to be exactly). As boring as yours.
    You( as a general term) may also hear that some Chinese love the CCP. You won’t buy it. You projected your hatred to your elite toward the Chinese people. How can some people in this world deserve some elite to love? Unimaginable. Must be propaganda brainwashing compulsion.

    Monotheist can’t understand dualist. System compatibility failure.

  60. @Sasha

    Psychopaths have some important niches in any large society.

    Apart from their military employment, areas like finance and politics are said to attract and suit their set of characteristics, remembering that superficial charm is one of them.

  61. I do hope the author is wrong.

  62. Tucker says:
    @Twodees Partain

    I would be extremely reluctant to allow ANY needle to be shoved into my arm that would
    inject a vaccine created by Israel into my body.

    The Israelis have been working on a bio-weapon that can single out and target a specific race of people for extermination since at least as far back as 1998, and it would not be beyond the scope of reason and suspicion that they have fine-tuned such a weapon over the years since 1998.

    White Europeans have the dubious distinction of being hated and despised most passionately by jews and this is why powerful jewish forces have been deliberately flooding every single historic White European nation on Earth with millions of non-white aliens from the third world. This is the ‘Great Replacement’ agenda. Reduce Whites to minorities inside the nations that they created, strip them of their God-given rights to self-rule and self-determination, subjugate them to being permanently ruled over and exploited by a motley collection of browns, blacks, or yellows -and make sure to use their control of the media to brainwash those non-white groups to hate and despise Whites and to blame them for every failure they encounter in life. This is a recipe for ethnic cleansing, once Whites are reduced to powerless minorities. The world has already seen this template used on the Russian Kulaks, following the 1917 Jewish Bolshevik Communist Revolution in Russia and which lead to the creation of the Soviet Union.

    Furthermore – does anyone else remember the news stories that broke into the mainstream a number of years ago, where the Israelis were caught inserting chemicals into vaccines that they were administering to black Ethiopian jews that rendered them sterile? Now, I can’t really blame the Israelis for not wanting to have their stolen piece of real estate overwhelmed and filled up with fast breeding black Ethiopians – since that would certainly change the entire fabric and culture of Israel in profoundly negative directions that the vast majority of Israeli nationals would not like or approve of, if they were given a choice in the matter.

    I mention this as way of reminding White Europeans that any vaccine invented by Israel has the potential to include chemicals that might be deviously added, in order to sterilize Whites – and based on the vitriolic amount of anti-White hate that comes from the International jewish community, any such ‘mandatory vaccination’ agenda would provide a golden opportunity to accelerate the extinction of White Europeans.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  63. Herald says:
    @Anonymous

    No doubt, in a rare but magnificent gesture of brotherly love, the Anglo Zionists will proceed to offer the “new” vaccine to the virus ravaged “usual suspects”. They will use it at their peril.

  64. Great article, Keven. Keep ’em coming.

    Now, more BREAKING NEWS, starting from Germany:

    Chancellorette Angela “Mutti” Merkel (only in office for 15 years, so not to be confused with the Queen) was on the state-TV tube last night (bannered on the front of every newspaper this morning) telling her sheeple they should follow the rules (they alwary do anyway) because this is “the greatest challenge since world war two”.

    So now we have it: Somebody sneezes in China and the entire world is locked down by government edict.

    And the worst postwar threat? Well, it’s something they (until three weeks ago) couldn’t and maybe still can’t even reliably distinguish from the cold season’s usual influenza except that it seems to be much less dangerous (except, of course, in U.S.-designated bad-actor Iran and maybe near some U.S. bases in northern Italy). Different varieties of the same “worst postwar threat”? Nevermind, just remember what Donald has said; it’s Chinese flu. Full stop. Basta!

    And what makes it different from the garden variety influenza? Well, something about a genome (conf. Footnote 683a, famous helix-shaped puzzle solution of Nobel lauriates Crick & Watson), something so inscrutable that only government-financed scientists can detect and understand it (but you can’t).

    And what does this supposed, single RNA genome (known only to lavishly government financed laboratory researchers and media hirelings) tell “us”. Well, that varies from government to government, depending upon which country is providing the true information or which fake news outlets are filtering it.

    But what about those governments (China, Russia, Iran, Malaysia, etc.) which are trying to confuse the U.S. corpoorate owned and operated Free World that the new flu came out of some infamous government bioweapons research laboratory that the Free Press has never, ever heard of again since the post-911 weaponized Anthrax hoax?

    Or, what about those questions posed by the Chinese foreign ministry? Forget about that Red propaganda! We all should know (from MSM by now) that this greatest threat is nothing but a super-duper natural virus passed along by malicious Chinamen who were eating tropical bats infected with HIV from a seafood market in Wuhan. We can count ourselves lucky that our Free World politicians know just what to do: Call up the armies, send in the national guard with their Hazmat suits to shoot or otherwise arrest the rampaging Chinese virus. Just stay home and quit talking to one another. Oh, and cancel any elections for the foreseeable future.

    That’s already beginning to sound a lot like the great CO2 global climate warming catastrophe (discovered by Al Gore in serendipity with his Internet development) in which the designated, taxable culprit is conveniently .. carbon dioxide. But isn’t that the harmless, colorless, oderless and otherwise undetectible gas found everywhere for the past billion years that is constantly breathed out by 7 billion people and constantly taken up by all the world’s trees and crops and plants so that they can grow and be useful? Well, maybe. Carbon dioxide/bat viruses: close enough for government work.

    Somewhere, Isaac Azimov is tearing his hair out for not thinking of this. It’s the ultimate Science Fiction.

    • Replies: @hetro
    , @refl
    , @Parfois1
  65. @Kim

    Solid points. Grounded in the way things work–or don’t.

  66. anarchyst says:

    The movie “V For Vendetta” has it all–an artificially contrived and imposed “virus” along with a purposely delayed “antidote” along with the consummate loss of both personal and social liberty.

    I urge all to watch this movie.

    Although somewhat “campy”, there are elements of truth in it.

    • Agree: 9/11 Inside job
  67. @Barret

    “making it “the Chinese virus” in the words of Donald Trump (and, subliminally, in MSM reporting and global public opinion) it is now cratering the US and European economies.”

    True. And who called it the Wu Han Virus in the beginning? The Chinese Government.

  68. Alfred says:
    @Sean

    It is fun to watch trolls working as a team. Mutual appreciation society and all that. LOL

  69. Quintus says:
    @Trinity

    Looks like a potential cure has already been found, on which independent teams of scientists in China, France and Australia are working: chloroquine phosphate, an old malaria drug:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32075365

    Since there’s no patent and little profit in promoting this potential cure, I’m curious what strategies the likes of Johnson & Johnson will implement to discredit this affordable rival.

    • Replies: @Republic
    , @A123
    , @Prajna
  70. The good Muslim story, might be possible to sell to American readers.
    I highly doubt any Brit or German would fall for it.
    They’d been shit tier people pre 9/11.
    Doesn’t change much for the view on Jews, ngl.

  71. @Anonymous

    I disagree with everything you wrote. And not just to be disagreeable or an asshole.

    We do have data. It’s just that from it we cannot extrapolate out too far into the future.

    But we don’t need to. Contrary to the author you quote.

    We only need to look ahead to the next bend in the road and that bend is an inflection point in the infection-rate curve.

    We need to do what is necessary now to bend the curve. Then, two weeks down the road, when conditions have changed, we can reassess and modify our approach. And so on.

    For example, if after two weeks we put in place skeleton crews who will manage and operate only the most essential services of production and distribution, we shall have gone a long way towards limiting the spread of the virus. Being limited in number, all these people can be tested.

    Most of the “work” done in America is non-essential. Miss a month of “work” and you will not be missed at all. There’s nothing you do that others cannot do without. Sobering but necessary to admit if we are to move forward.

    I recommend that Americans stop panicking and look upon this period as “snow days” vacation from school. Take the time to address your life at home. Read a book, redecorate your bathroom, take up that hobby you had always wanted to but never had the time for. Tie some flies or paint a picture. Make your granddaughter a rocking crib. Change your oil and the spark plugs while you’re at it. Wash and wax your car. Take advantage of this time to be with yourself and your family.

    If you’re getting cabin fever, take a walk or ride your bike. Dust off those old rollerblades. Just don’t go into bars or restaurants. You can live without that for a while. Cook for yourselves. You will enjoy better food anyway, and home cooking is better for you–not to mention less expensive.

    Some bar owners are defying the quarantine in the name of freedom or something. There’s something wrong with those people who are so addicted to superficial social life that they can’t find anything to do when not at their favorite watering hole.

  72. Quintus says:
    @Polemos

    This anonymous piece expatiates on the decoupling motive for the coronavirus attack:

    https://cryptome.org/2020/02/CIA-biovirus-2019.pdf

  73. @Franklin Ryckaert

    Barret is a practicing muslim…he might do maffs different…or he includes every muslim death in history?

  74. Parfois1 says:
    @Wyatt

    If he’s not an expert on the actual virology, what’s his logic to suggest that it’s manmade?

    Simple, because all statements of fact are subject to laws (e.g. law of regularity) and he’s a professor of Law!

    Seriously, he has investigated that field and is in a position to make a credible case for his assertion.

  75. Quintus says:
    @Sasha

    There’s no doubt in my mind that the banksters needed the proper scapegoat to put our unsustainable financial system out of its misery: it’s been on life support since 2008 for so many years through various schemes. With their putative “Chinese virus,” they kill many birds with one stone: 1) re-channel the wrath of the people on an insidious, ubiquitous thing (virus) or 2) nation (China), the USA’s arch-rival, rather than on themselves, as would be amply deserved; 3) enforce a Totalitarian system, which reinforces their power; 4) the depopulation agenda, with its environmental and wealth benefits for those who survive, similar to the effects of the Great Bubonic Plague on medieval Europe, which was followed by the Europeans’ unprecedented expansion and conquest of the world.

  76. whodat says:

    Find out who worked on the elevator system in the twin towers in the weeks before 911 and you will know the perp. Loud Bangs and heavy construction on some occupied floors under the cover of elevator repair.

  77. AK says:
    @Kim

    So basically you saying that China learnt from the West.

    First outright theft and slavery and now a more disguised neo imperialism via the World Bank, IMF and multi national corporations.

    I think after 300 years of “benevolent colonialism” we should give China a chance, they couldn’t possibility be worse !

    • Agree: Crazy Horse
  78. Oh, really, the obese, ignorant, almost illiterate average Amerikastani, which is totally owned by the zionazi pseudostate, and which can’t even identify China on the outline map of the planet, or use the metric system, is going to create a “more Spartan economy”? How droll.

  79. Well, let’s look at the three hardest hit countries:
    China – biggest impediment to US-Zionist world hegemony
    Iran – Israel’s biggest enemy
    Italy – home of the Jews’ historical enemy, the Roman Catholic Church.

    Of course, one wonders why Russia has been spared. Maybe they just weren’t able to get to them.

    • Agree: Robjil, Alfred
    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
    , @Trinity
  80. Creating a problem and then suggesting their own solution, at a profit of course, is one of the oldest plays in the Jewish bag of tricks.

    • Replies: @Parfois1
  81. onebornfree says: • Website

    I’m not much of a David Icke fan, but in this recent interview on the Coronavirus scam he “knocks it out of the park” imho:

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Thanks: Republic
    • LOL: Saggy
  82. Thekid says:

    Could any US biowar team, however “rogue”—much less the commanding heights of the National Security State—have been crazy enough to risk that kind of blowback?

    Since when has the American elite ever given a shit about the welfare of its own people?

  83. For once Trump told the truth and called it a “hoax”, he had probably been told in advance that the Coronavirus epidemic was going to be a “psyop” and slipped up , however , his handlers got him to return to the script and blame the Chinese . What is truly disturbing about both 9/11 and this “faux pandemic” is the power of the massmedia using “fear porn” to create mass hysteria and scare the hell out of people, as our psychopathic rulers well know it easy to control citizens who are in fear of their lives .
    There is an excellent , short essay at septemberclues.info entitled ” The central role of the news media on 9/11-the power of TV imagery” and how the 9/11 psyop relied so much on TV imagery to sell the deception of planes crashing into the Twin Towers when in fact it was a “Hollywood” production using computer -generated images(CGI’s) .
    Likewise TV and the massmedia are playing a major role in creating and promoting this latest psyop.Just six corporations own 90% or more of TV stations and newspapers in the US and the ownership of these corporations can be traced back to the owners of the PRIVATE Federal Reserve. The Fed is comprised of 12 commercial Central Banks and which banks it is said are owned by the 8-12 families who own most of the World’s assets . Unless the massmedia monopoly is broken up and I believe that this monopoly was allowed by legislation signed into law by freemason Bill Clinton , the public will never learn the truth about 9/11 and the “hoax” known as the Coronavirus pnademic as they are brainwashed by TV imagery and TV ‘talking heads”.Thank you Kevin Barrett for another ins

    • Troll: Saggy
    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  84. Aqualung says:

    Maybe China simply discovered a new strain of common Corona virus, manufactured some hysteria around it by locking down a few cities and rapidly building hospitals, and then let the media take it from there tanking the American economy. If approximately 10% of all flu is Corona, then ask yourselves how many positive results you will get during any given flu season once you start testing specifically for it? We don’t know the death rate because it hasn’t run it’s course and we haven’t tested everyone. 99% of all death in Italy are people with preexisting conditions and have an average age of 80.
    Are Boomers really that selfish that instead of doing a little social distancing themselves during flu season they have to be complicit in demanding a complete shutdown of society, harming mostly millennials just because the Chinese did some crazy things and posted some videos?

  85. Anonymous[360] • Disclaimer says:

    I originally thought the Coronavirus was a bioweapon targeted against China. But that doesn’t make sense now that the virus has gone global and has hit US shores.

    So the conspiracy theory morphs to it was designed to crash the economy, instill martial law, have us all forcibly vaccinated, etc.

    Questions / inconsistencies:
    If it was targeted against China, why then did it escape from a Chinese lab?
    Did it come from the Chinese lab or was it released by the US soldiers at the military games?
    If it is was targeting China (and race specific) why is it in the US and killing Americans now?

    I’m still open to a conspiracy theory but it needs to be logically consistent and be backed by evidence. If there is a conspiracy, what is the goal?

    What I am puzzled by is
    A) little to no preparation in the US as we watched China from afar
    B) media fear porn
    C) little to no weighing cost of US lives lost vs damage done through shutting down economy for 1-3 months or longer

  86. Thekid says:

    “The United States waged biological warfare against its own Congress in 2001 with the anthrax component of the 9/11 anthrax false flag operation, which terrorized Tom Daschle and Patrick Leahy, the leaders of the movement that blocked the Patriot Act, into giving up and allowing the Patriot Act.

    “So the United States is run by lunatics, by psychopaths who are entirely capable of launching World War 3 by way of a biological warfare attack on China and Iran, with the Iran component presumably led by Israel. That’s the most likely explanation for what we’re seeing.”

    This is the kind of rot Press TV publishes.

    I’ll read this kind of ‘rot’ any day over the corporate media.

  87. vot tak says:

    The zionazis view their colonies as tools to achieve their own goals. Not as nationstates. This is an excellent analysis from Kevin Barrett which posits important questions that need to be looked into very closely.

    • Agree: Druid
  88. Interesting analysis The writer makes several plausible points. As a professional and a parent to multiple small children who just saw their savings for retirement tank I would highly appreciate some concrete advice on how to organize my finances in the short term and what to do with cash reserves what companies/industries to invest in now?

    It seems to me life will go on and the mundane day today still needs to get funded. I was in my 20s for 911 and did not think strategically.

    Your input would be appreciated.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  89. @Daniel Rich

    Fortunately for the Privately owned FED , the United States Treasury Department (and its Bureau of Printing and Engraving) still has printing presses , ink and paper .

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
  90. bjondo says:

    Day 300 of American corona, aka FtDet-19. I still haven’t seen a single body on a sidewalk, nor bodies piled high like Jew in Jew imagination, haven’t heard too many coughs, yet we are in a national lock down with more dollars going to banks, big national and global changes taking place, even deeper than 9-11 and Patriot and more.

    NeoLibCons not concerned then about thousands dying nor concerned about their bio war using anthrax.

    The Snakes will do whatever to accomplish their evil goals.

    First signs this is a war by the Boltons/Baraks are the bat soup stupidity and the quickness to name China.

    USYidrael very quick to blame Syria for Hariri murder; very quick to blame OBL and ALq for 9-11 and any patsy for anthrax; blame Russia/Putin for Skripals; more.

    Look to the loud mouths. There you find the guilty.

    And Yidrael very fast with a vaccine or a scam.

    This is a NeoLibCon war to bring down the world as we know it with the spawn of Satan left ruling.

    Has to be done now. Later too late. The Axis of Resistance will be too strong. Too strong now.

    5 dancing shlomos

  91. @Franklin Ryckaert

    A very good article by Kevin Barrett with many common sense insights such as that the Zionists “doth protest too much” when conspiracy theories are proposed that might endanger Zionist interests without even mentioning Jews, or the amazing confluence of “coincidences”.

    That’s exactly what happened to me, Franklin. Whenever I complained about foreign policy, the banks or the media, all the usual suspects hollered ‘anti-Semitism’, so I began to wonder if they were right. “Maybe,” I thought, “I should give this anti-Semitism stuff a look and see what it’s really all about.” Of course, I was totally blown away! For the first time in my life, not only did I truly understand our history, but even the very current events transpiring before my eyes.

    And that’s how I became a Nazi. 😉

    • Agree: Druid
    • Replies: @E_Perez
  92. Anonymous[325] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    Sean has now ventured beyond his role as a troll by attempting to derail discussion of Dr Barrett’s excellent article not only with irrelevance, but with a thinly veiled threat of assassination. Sean might like to explain the YouTube (which I think a commenter linked to in the comments here a few days ago) of former Sen Joseph Lieberman boasting at a Chabad convention that the array of Chabad Centers around the globe puts the CIA to shame when it comes to spying and espionage—and, who knows, maybe deployment of bio weapons. In your view, Sean, is such evidence in the mouth of a former senator pointing to an admitted conspiracy automatically rendered irrelevant or false on the grounds that it confirms a theory? Is scientific evidence in chemistry obtained by experiment and observation automatically falsified if it confirms a theory, or is that only true when such evidence confirms a theory implicating Israel and its fifth column?

    If so, I can see why Stephen Lendman’s excellent research on Israel’s biological experiments using Arabs and South African blacks as guinea pigs with beyond horrific results, such as viruses that dissolve their insides, is automatically falsified. But don’t feel alone, Sean, because just about all of Congress was selected behind closed doors precisely because they’d agree with you that a millennium in Western man’s ability to discern evidence from noise and reach correct conclusions based on that evidence has been tossed out the window if it implicates Israel in espionage and sabotage against the United States. And lastly, Sean, are you really in a position to implicitly threaten Dr Barrett with assassination?

    • Agree: Alfred, Iris, JohnnyWalker123
    • Replies: @utu
    , @Parfois1
  93. @Ron Unz

    Corona exists but just isn’t the crisis it’s being made out to be. The hysterical response, lockdown of borders (except for rapefugees) and assault on markets together are the true conspiracy, more so than from whence (or whom) it came.

    Trump is an absolute fool for buying into his own political demise.

    Corona.help. < —–stats

  94. Miro23 says:
    @Ron Unz

    Well, I think there’s a certain amount of circumstantial evidence suggesting that the Coronavirus outbreak may have been an American bioweapon attack against China (and Iran).

    Agree with this. It’s a probabilistic assessment. Information takes time to surface and be sorted/ integrated. For example (not being a structural engineer) I didn’t question the fact that hijacked aircraft brought down the twin towers, and the 9/11 Commission Report (which I read carefully) was a believable account of US government inter-agency bungling. It was only years later that I heard about Building 7 (silence in the report) and had access to new information that proved the horrible reality. 9/11 was a complex operation involving many people, so the truth was bound to come out.

    Similarly – if the Coronavirus is in fact biological warfare- then the evidence will also come out. It’s already suspicious that that the 9/11 heads up PNAC document should say “And advanced forms of biological warfare can “target” specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool.”

    It was an Israeli/US deep state team that developed the Stuxnet (computer) virus. It targeted Iran along with 9/11, and now Iran is again hit, this time by a mysterious Corona (biological) virus. There’s also that extra financial twist that seems to be irresistible. Larry Sliverstein taking out terror insurance two months prior to 9/11 and getting a double payout (2 towers) totaling 4.550 million dollars. This time an Israeli company developing a miraculous instant vaccine:

    Israeli scientists are on the cusp of developing the first vaccine against the novel coronavirus, according to Science and Technology Minister Ofir Akunis. If all goes as planned, the vaccine could be ready within a few weeks and available in 90 days, according to a release.

    “Congratulations to MIGAL [The Galilee Research Institute] on this exciting breakthrough,” Akunis said. “I am confident there will be further rapid progress, enabling us to provide a needed response to the grave global COVID-19 threat,” Akunis said, referring to the disease caused by the novel coronavirus.

    https://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE/Israeli-scientists-In-three-weeks-we-will-have-coronavirus-vaccine-619101

    But if so, I’m *extremely* skeptical that the perpetrators ever intended or imagined that it would leak back into the US and inflict the horrific economic and social damage that now seems unavoidable. How to explain this lack lack of foresight?

    “How to explain this lack of foresight”. It’s probably just arrogance and biological warfare (if in fact it was) being something new and not fully understood.

  95. @Flubber

    You are admitting that coronavirus is what might help the US “win” a trade war with China, by rehoming manufacturing “vastly” faster than would have been possible otherwise. That was my point—the US can’t win a trade war without waging 5GW. But I still doubt the likelihood of your projected Trump-genius-driven US “trade war victory.” China holds most of the cards that matter in the long run. https://www.unz.com/article/should-we-compete-with-china-can-we/

    • Replies: @Richard B
    , @Mario Partisan
  96. @Malcolms_brother

    Yet, while all of this gov’t/media induced panic is ongoing, I read reports of football players signing new contracts in the millions. I’ve heard that free agent and over-the-hill forty-something Tom Brady will get $20 million per year from some owner with more money than brains. What happens if this panic extends and there is no football to watch?

    It would make me happy to see all those hundreds of illiterate black thugs in the NFL go without paychecks, although they have contracts and would doubtless be paid anyway, at least until the owners ran out of money. But well before football season expect riots from those told to shut up and shelter in place, and the shootings, mayhem, and especially suicides will escalate. Far more will die from lockdowns than from the virus itself.

  97. Hempus says:

    The fact that Israel is already proposing to have a vaccine in few weeks makes them one of the usual suspects.
    False flag ops are only possible if the media is complicit with the crime.

    Here we have the big pharma which got a 300 billion advantage from their last coup against WHO / CDC / medical science with the AIDS fraud. There is a lot of black mail in that scene.

    Also, right on the beginning of the AIDS “epidemic” it was said that the pharma medical science will have a vaccine against Aids in a few month. War on aids.

    People who got tested HIV positive had often the same symptoms as now people after a Covid-19 test. It is breathlessness and then pneumonia.

    The test works like a negaive placebo!
    Because those people are told to have a deadly virus, they get isolated and breaked away from all freedoms and you cant escape… or they hunt you like the Tsarnaev brothers where martial law was declared on the whole city of Boston…”Boston Bombing”
    This Virus is a Patsie like Lee Harvey Oswald….this time with worldwide economical collateral damage.
    Of course such treatment is not really helpful to strengthen your immunity system.

    Fact is that if you have the antibodies to a certain virus you had already an immunity reaction. So it is totally absurd to claim….you need a vaccine to create exactly those antibodies!
    All this tests are totally senseless and create only fear and panic which then affects the breathing and causes in a pretty short time pulmonary / lung fibrosis which can be deadly especially if you have already a fewer or flu.

    The research which Dr. Owen Tsang made is very interesting as he found that patients after recovering the nightmare still often have a 20-30 % reduced lung function caused by a still existing pumonary fibrosis.
    Pulmonary fibrosis is mainly caused by Stress, fear, panic! And especially after a Test where you are told that you have a deadly virus in your body.

    Very interesting is an article at Deutsche Wirtschaftsnachrichten about the health expert Dr. Wolfgang Wodrak in German Language.

    Here is a video from Dr. Wodrak in German with english subtitles: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/disease/dr-wolfgang-wodarg-confirms-this-is-an-insane-panic/

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  98. Surtr says:

    Kevin,

    I was a 9/11 truther as well, so I was completely sympathetic to your experiences and am appreciative of anyone that presents verifiable facts on the issue. The problem with this article is the degree with which both you and Ron Unz have ramped up the ad hominem abusives which is a logical fallacy. So here you are with your sympathetic supporters, and you ramp up ad hominem abusives to anyone that questions your narrative whatsoever. So basically you have Ron Unz running around call the military incompetent at the same time as relying on logical fallacies which is a form of incompetence. You are throwing your own people under the bus which does not seem like the smartest thing to do. I overlooked this behavior at first to consider the validity of the accusations. Now you have just gone overboard. This has gone from consider this other possible narrative to bullying anyone that questions you. This is no longer a debate in my opinion. I am sorry to say this as I have enjoyed your work, but I think you are losing me. This is the same problem with hazing. It starts out minor and harmless, then it goes unchecked and does real damage.

    ~Surtr

    • Troll: follyofwar
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  99. SethF1968 says:
    @Wyatt

    Boyle says the fact that it more efficiently spreads in human populations proves it was designed.
    However that may not be true:

    “And the smoking gun here is on page 11, near the bottom, the last full paragraph from the bottom where it says: ‘May provide a gain of function to coronavirus for efficient spreading in the human population.

    “‘Gain of function technology is DNA genetic engineering of a dangerous biological warfare substance, but turbocharging and gain of function work can only be done safely in a BSL-4 or a BSL-3 facility.’

    “So, I think clearly that the Wuhan coronavirus came out of that BSL-4 facility, this is clearly a weaponised biological warfare agent and there is no legitimate scientific or medical use for gain of function technology.””
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/1253778/coronavirus-chinese-lab-leak-bioweapon-wuhan-institute-virolgy-francis-boyle-spt

    • Replies: @Wyatt
  100. Events are leading towards world war III, no black swan, it is foreseen and predicted by the pattern of history.
    https://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/

  101. They assassinated JFK. They attacked and attempted to sink the USS Liberty. They did 9/11. They got away with all of them. No surprise then that they have the chutzpah to say that by “pure luck” they were working on a project that allowed them to create a vaccine for COVID-19.

  102. The 911 attack on the WTC was done by Israel and traitors in the ZUS government and the destruction of the WTC took some 3000 lives and involved 7 WTC buildings, which were buildings 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and the twin towers 1 and 2.

    This attack was done to blame the muslims and push America into destroying the middle east for zionist Israel to promote their greater Israel theory, read the book The Controversy of Zion by Douglas Reed for background on the zionist greater Israel agenda.

    To see how the attack was done, go to drjudywood.com and wheredidthetowersgo.com.

    Also for more background on the greater Israel agenda read the book Blood in the Water by Joan Mellen on the Israel and ZUS attack on the USS Liberty, these books can be had on amazon.com.

  103. @Anonymous

    It’s a “globalist “PSYOP so the elites of all the affected/effected countries are in on it ,e.g. Macron, Merkel,Trump, Boris Johnson , Netanyahu,Xi, Trudeau etc.

    • Agree: Desert Fox
    • Replies: @Sasha
  104. One thing I haven’t seen brought up is the intergenerational violence against our young. Their schools are now closed, all athletic events cancelled, and they’ve lost their jobs, even though they don’t die from the virus (about .2%, probably less, which is the same as the yearly flu). All out of fear that they are carriers, and will spread the disease to their grandparents, who are at most risk of dying. Are the youth society’s new lepers?

    Why not let their lives go on as normal, re-open the schools, and open the restaurants so they can return to their jobs. (See Linh Dinh’s new article in which he said they stayed open in South Korea and daily life was not ground to a halt). All that needs done is to tell their grandparents (if they are sick and elderly) that they must stay away from their g’kids for now and only the stupid and selfish won’t understand. As is, with the kids stuck at home, they are probably in contact with them more than ever.

    Really, is this another case of greedy inconsiderate boomers worried more for their lives than the lives of our suffering youth? We are the worst generation in history, sucking up all the resources for ourselves. I wish that millenials would get smart and start rebelling in the streets. Alas, they are married to their phones.

    • Disagree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @Tony Hall
    , @anarchyst
  105. @Sean

    If having told the truth about 9/11 resulted in Doctor Barrett being so discredited by the establishment that he is now ineffective in exposing and preventing a conspiracy from starting WW3, then it was a mistake for him to have been honest and open about his findings regarding 9/11.

    Nice to see you openly and unabashedly advising us against telling the truth.

    Who said we’re not making progress at long last?

    When he reveals who he is, all who know of his achievements will testify to AnonStarter’s bona fides being beyond question, of that I am sure.

    Assuming your real first name is Sean, would you be willing to share your surname and other personally identifying details with us, that we may remain appropriately humbled and abjectly supine in the illustrious glow of your vaunted namesake?

    Yeah.

    I thought so.

    • Replies: @Sean
  106. @Tucker

    I wouldn’t accept such a vaccine either, Tucker. Besides the chemicals that can be added, engineered DNA could be in the cocktail. I think that a mandated vaccine is scheduled. It looks as though that’s part of the planned end game in this whole fake crisis.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  107. In my humble opinion ,the Coronavirus is the seasonal flu weaponized by the “fear porn” of the international, massmedia to make the fearful citizens of the World accept the “agendas” of the global “deep states”.

    • Agree: Desert Fox
  108. @Kim

    So the BRI is a dead-end scam? Hmm… While you may be right that most trade will always be maritime, the kind of naval supremacy that enabled the British and US empires may be a thing of the past, given the new generation of anti-ship missiles. If nobody can rule the waves any more, China, the world’s most productive powerhouse, will be free to dominate maritime trade as well as land routes.

  109. @Delta G

    You are right. Both the Chinese and Americans may be developing bio-weapons, but it is most unlikely that either deliberately released this virus. Neither is so stupid as not to know that the consequences of its release would be unpredictable. It is a natural phenomenon…which is not to say that it has absolutely no connection to the bio-weapons facility in Wuhan. What side will suffer more from its release is as yet indeterminate.

  110. @Hapalong Cassidy

    “Of course, one wonders why Russia has been spared. Maybe they just weren’t able to get to them.”

    It’s likely that the Russian government just refused to play along. There was some sort of epidemic in China, but the claims that it has spread outside of China could be false. If being “hit” by the virus is just a matter of governments falsely reporting cases and deaths, which I think is entirely possible, then a Russian refusal to play along could be why “Russia has been spared”.

  111. @AnonFromBeijing

    I seriously urge you to read the article China and the Jews, by Lasha Darkmoon in Veterans Today, December 10, 2014.

    It was the Jews who forced opium on the Chinese people by their control of the British.

    The “Russians” who brought Communism to China were almost all Jews. Mao had Jewish advisors.

    There is a long term Jewish plot going on to infiltrate China and to take it over as they have done with America. For the purpose of becoming undetectable, Jews are now marrying with Chinese or adopting Chinese children and raising them as Jews in order to create a kind of Jews that is no more distinguishable from ordinary Chinese. Then they will take over all key positions in Chinese society, without the Chinese people becoming aware of it.

    • LOL: FB
  112. @9/11 Inside job

    Good observations on the way the panic is being promoted. BTW, your post seems to have been cut off. If there was more, you might want to add it in another comment.

    • Replies: @9/11 Inside job
  113. GeeBee says:
    @Alfred

    Actually it was India that was referred to as ‘the jewel in the crown’. Hong Kong was a fine trading post, but not in the same league as British India (which, of course, included Pakistan, Bangladesh and Burma in those days before independence and partition in 1947).

  114. The first part of your statement is well said indeed.

    But why become negative and prejudiced in the second?

    A statement like “the worst generation in history” to characterize tens of millions of people is not accurate or fair.

  115. @Twodees Partain

    No, Russia closed immediately its borders with China.

  116. @Hempus

    People who got tested HIV positive had often the same symptoms as now people after a Covid-19 test. It is breathlessness and then pneumonia.

    This is a bad analogy. The HIV test was fraudulent because the purported retrovirus was never properly isolated. That test was said to have detected the presence of antibodies, which would actually be a good thing, implying the body had developed immunity.

    Back in the 1980s these so-called AIDS patients had developed pneumocystis pneumonia, which was caused by fungus. These people were primarily gay males inhaling “poppers” (amyl nitrite) to enhance their sexual experience, including at public bath house encounters.

    No anti-body test for the Wuhan coronavirus has been announced, so it is not possible to determine if somebody had already been infected earlier and has completely recovered. Therefore, it is hardly possible to ascertain if a particular person was a potential carrier.

  117. @Kevin Barrett

    Yes, indeed.

    And Russia has a missile, Club K System, that sits inside a shipping container.

    It can turn any ship into a serious threat.

  118. Anonymous[325] • Disclaimer says:
    @Surtr

    Surtr, your nitpicking with Dr Barrett comes across as a cheap shot for avoiding the distinct probability this is a false flag given the prior near certainty that 9/11 was such a false flag that changed everything. We can take this back to the conference in Israel setting the groundwork for 9/11 that Christopher Bollyn has exposed that involved GHWB, to the latter’s 1993 or thereabouts declaration before the UN, unambiguously threatening in its tone, that the world will be subjected to a new world order using “peacekeepers,” or in other words, under the sort of police state as we see unfolding before our eyes over something less pandemic than the annual flu outbreak.

    Given Stephen Lendman’s revelations about Israel’s bio warfare program’s live experimentation on Arabs and South African blacks, and the obvious need to have reverse engineered the viruses from the vaccine to avoid unintended blowback, there is every reason to be suspicious of Israel’s miraculously being close to finalizing a vaccine specifically for COVID-19. There’s also every reason in view of the ongoing cover up of 9/11 for us to be suspicious of everything coming from the ZOG and its confederates in the mainstream and social media. Who, for example, would believe that the talking heads on TV news are paid millions because they’re the voice of the people and not because they promote the interests of the neocons who write the checks?

  119. I see a terrible pattern developing here. Simply because certain folks were instrumental in the demolition of a few buildings in lower Manhattan, now we are going to blame them for an awful pandemic? Unless there’s video of Larry Silverstein wandering the streets of Wuhan, I’m not buying this theory.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  120. Anonymous[178] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    That’s arguably the most likely scenario. Let’s not forget that the 9/11 false flag was also a very sloppy operation. None of the excuses for what happened that day – massive security “failures” on every level, WTC7, steel beams melting or weakening on all floors simultaneously, dancing Israelis etc – are even remotely believable. They made many, many mistakes but they also had overwhelming control over the global MSM which enabled them to spin a completely manufactured “reality” and pre-planned responses out of that mess.

    It also very possible that the plan “B” – in case Coronavirus starts spreading globally – was to let the pandemic run its course. We can see it from the way the US administration sat on its hands for months, from the Boris Johnson’s official, publicly stated plan, to do exactly that until just a couple of days ago, and from the Ursula von der Leyen’s incessant pleas for Europe to keep its borders open until, again, just a few days ago. It’s pretty clear that they wanted to sacrifice people in order to protect “markets” but had to switch to the plan “C” (containment) when many countries refused to play along, protected their citizens, and started making them look very, very bad.

    Basically, the plan was to keep the markets from crashing too much even if the virus goes global but it didn’t turn out that way.

  121. Saggy says: • Website
    @Ron Unz

    I meant to hit the ‘troll’ button …. this article is completely worthless, ‘circumstantial’ BS that undermines opposition to the establishment, and Unz comments supporting such idiocy discredits the entire site.

    • Agree: SBaker
    • Replies: @SBaker
  122. Anonymous[325] • Disclaimer says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    Let’s hope readers do follow up and read that amazing series by Lasha Darkmoon.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  123. Tor597 says:

    Some asian family including kids were stabbed because of Chinese Virus hysteria.

    This family was not even Chinese. White people don’t really bother to distinguish between different asian groups, so they just lash out anytime they see slanted eyes.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/JayPotato1/status/1239742327893020673

    An unintended consequence of Trump trying to goad China during a crisis is that it will divide the world more than Trump anticipates.

    Surely the Anglo countries will fall in line and back America. But the ME and Muslims in general are 100% sure this is a bio warfare attack. South America and Africa probably won’t be hit hard. European countries will be split on which side to take. And even in America there will be splits.

    Japanese, Korean, Phillipino, Malaysian, and every other kind of asian will be targetted in all western countries. So you can expect a drift of these countries away from the west.

    This actually plays into the hands of China more than America.

  124. @Twodees Partain

    For me to take the vaccine they’ll have to barge into my house with their guns and strap me down. If it ever comes to that I might commit suicide first. Once they do that, all freedom is lost for good, and life will not be worth living.

  125. DaveE says:

    This is the best article / examination of the “pandemic” I have read so far. Thanks so much, Dr. Barrett.

    I think everyone with smarter than combat boots knows they’re being played. But just like 9/11 it might take a while to sort out all details. But then maybe not – just look how far we’ve come since 9/11 in spotting and deciphering the zionists’ demonic trickery. It took us years to put the 9/11 pieces together and realize the gargantuan zionist scam, years in planning, that we were fed. We’re still not done, either. But contrasted to the couple weeks it’s taken for at least the smarter of us to wise up, this time, we’re definitely getting smarter. Thanks for upping our average so much!

    Don’t drink any bat-soup (metaphorically AND physically!) Kevin. We need you HERE, metaphorically AND physically……!

    • Replies: @Alfred
    , @Twodees Partain
  126. @follyofwar

    They the deep state and the elites ie Bill Gates are putting nano rfids and mercury etc., in the vaccines and this is detailed in the book Under an Ionized Sky : From Chemtrails to Space Fence Lock Down by Elana Freeland and her website is elanafreeland.com.

    Another site that goes into this is stopthecrime.net by Deborah Tavares and her youtube channel and she has an excellent video titled, Illuminatia Agenda that deals with these subjects.

  127. Trinity says:
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    I was thinking the same thing. I was watching a program with Jimmy Swaggart ( remember him?), he has his own network which runs programming 24/7. Anyhow, featured on many of his shows are a couple of Jews ( a father and a son) who have (((converted))) to Christianity. The show I was watching was unbelievable. They were talking about Armageddon and the Anti-Christ, etc. Anyhow, the Jewish guy all of a sudden became a little dramatic and emotional and started talking about BDS and chastising people who wish to boycott or criticize Israel, and announced that Israel probably might have a cure for the coronavirus. Predictably, he starts gloating would the world boycott the accepting of the cure for the coronavirus. What a prick, huh? Get this, this prick goes on to say that America and Europe both are deserving what they are experiencing because of their treatment of Jews. I KID YOU NOT. Swaggart, his son, and another boot licking Christian Zionist goy sat there and took the verbal beat down like good little goys. See America, sending your sons to die fighting in WWII didn’t ingratiate your inferior goy ass to the Jew, sending your sons, daughters, fathers, uncles, nephews off to fight the A-rabs in the Middle East for the Jew is not enough even, the Jew still thinks you should be punished for not worshiping him and kissing his ass for eternity.

    This (((virus))) should be called the Shlomovirus. hahaha.

    • Agree: DaveE, Druid
    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  128. anon[414] • Disclaimer says:

    Oh Kevin, you could always move to middle east. The only awakening I got was just how sleazy some people can be. It was truly a great awakening. It must have been a great awakening when Bush let Osama’s relatives leave. It was an even bigger awakening when we went into Afghanistan and over-threw their government, no Al Queda, al qa’ida whatever which wasn’t there. I was stunned when I learned that the people pushing for Afghanistan were the democrats and that the ousted “socialist” of Afghanistan was hobnobbing at the United Nations and then I was flabbergasted to awokeness, when the left voted for it, the anti-war crowd was for it, such humanitarians they are. Then I was lifted in a great light of awake, when I learned that Congress had already signed the Iraq liberation act in, get this Kevin, 1998! What was anyone to do. Hillary was writing shit articles and dragging a budding lawyer girl around Congress who would later do her act as an activist for women of Afghanistan and Hillary wanted to make sure her husband did something for them, so I was filled with this light of awokeness, Kevin, really, they went to the PNAC and asked if they could fight a two pronged war. But of course the left being the left needed cover, so they went into overdrive against Bush, who stole the election from them, and the republicans with Iraq. Muslims had been doing a lot of their own killing but the left should have known that there were no terrorists in Afghanistan because ole Hills hubby bombed them in 2000 after the attack against the USS COLE that killed 17? And all these years later I’m still stunned, alight and really woke to it. You should have left out the garbage at the beginning, it made reading anything almost impossible! Look at me floating in light and I know exactly who some people are, because I looked. I didn’t preview but you get it.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
    , @Meena
  129. @Ron Unz

    I was a member of the Harvard Working Group headed up by Marc Lipsitch. We were successful in terms of forcing the Government of the United States of America to stop bioweapons research due to safety concerns and improper handling of deadly pathogens. Congress deinstitutionalized bioweapons research by 2016 and forced USA bureaucrats to utilize foreign bioweapons labs to continue their research.

    I personally think the nCorona virus is most assuredly an American made bioweapon.

    RW

    • Replies: @Greg Bacon
  130. @Just another serf

    Your gullability makes you of ZOG exactly what you call yourself : “just another serf”.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  131. I think the COVID-19 first leaked from Fort Detrick in 2019. Remember the deaths blamed on vaping?
    The other deaths were I’m sure were attributed to influenza and Typhoid. Then the Army took it to China as the author claims.
    The attack on Iran was carried out by the Israelis and the virus, though the same, is more lethal.

  132. @Twodees Partain

    Thank you , I was trying to proof read my comments and ran out of time before thanking Kevin Barrett for his insightful article. For almost 12 years I was fooled by the false flag/psyop ,or as Russ Winter likes to call it the “staged deception “, known as 9/11. However , I have been “red-pilled” and I am now “woke” to be aware that the perpetrators of the psyop known as the “coronavirus pandemic” are using a similar “modus operandi” as they used for 9/11 including the use of “crisis actors”, and that they are mocking us by leaving their fingerprints at the crime scene .Fool me once shame on you , fool me twice shame on me , I won’t be fooled for a second time!

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  133. hetro says:
    @St-Germain

    I really do think, also, that as part of the new shut-down orders, these orders must specify that people keep at least a distance of six feet between them, while in lines outside supermarkets, waiting to get to the toilet paper shelves.

  134. Anon[348] • Disclaimer says:
    @Flubber

    The US is the customer, with the enormous trade deficit. Trump has been hugely effective with his tariff’s policy in rehoming manufacturing to the US – a process that will vastly accelerate thanks to the Corona virus outbreak.

    Think again. The whole trade war with China was never about bringing manufacturing back to the US( although that was the official excuse), it was all about moving manufacturing out of China, i.e. it isn’t about helping the US, it’s about hurting China, because the Zionists can’t control that authoritarian government — no “free and fair” elections and “free media’ for them to meddle in and prop up a puppet regime to take control of their central bank and financial markets.

    All of Asia is linked together in a giant supply chain. China is only the final assembly place before the export to the US. It is near impossible at this point, or it would take a monumental effort, to bring back the entire supply chain. This is why Apple and other manufacturers are busy building backup manufacturing facilities in Vietnam, Malaysia etc. None are moving their manufacturing back to the US. The disparity in cost of production, from labor to land, utilities, EPA regulations is simply too great at this point to entice manufacturing to return to the US. If we make everything here, our products will be too expensive for the rest of the world to consume.

    When Obama put together the TPP to “encircle” China, the Chinese immediately started making deals with Vietnam and Malaysia to move their factories there to take advantage of the favorable trade terms from those countries. When TPP got cancelled, all the manufacturing stayed in China. So even if we move manufacturing out of China , in the end it is still Chinese factories and owners who are making everything incl. profits, the only difference is the “Made in X” label. They have the manufacturing know-how that other countries simply do not have, sadly not even the US anymore.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  135. @Franklin Ryckaert

    That’s right. Because you believe in videos that make you just another serf.

  136. Mefobills says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    So the BRI is a dead-end scam? Hmm… While you may be right that most trade will always be maritime, the kind of naval supremacy that enabled the British and US empires may be a thing of the past,

    BRI not a dead end scam, only delayed.

    Finance Capitalism (international corporate banking), rim theory, atlantacism …. all of these constructs are going to the wayside. Globo Homo is not winning, and the virus is hastening its destruction.

    Naval supremacy = dead end. It will be easy to kill surface fleets from orbit, or from stealth drones that lay silently in wait.

    Russia is using Area Denial Techniques, which are mostly defensive in nature, and AD costs much less than power projecting with blue water navies and strategic air power.

    Russia and China strategy will win-out in the end. If anything – Corona virus is forcing countries into putting up barriers and re-sovereignizing their nation state. Look at what is happening in Greece, where they are resisting migrant invasion.

    All of the world going into more of an economic autarky mode is bad for globo-homo, and also bad for belt and road.

    However, there will always be trade as not every country can produce what it needs. Trading over-land via belt and road will be “reduced” in volume in future, but it will still go forward.

    And if China uses debt mechanics like a globo homo “Economic Hitman” then lets see. China has state banks, and can easily forgive debt instruments housed in said banks. In other words, China can fund BRI and erase Yuan debts as needed.

    Globo-Homo dollarized debt instruments are dispersed into the supposed free “market” or into various non-state actors hands, often our (((friends))) hands. These hands are the string pullers, who manipulate western politicians.


    Autarky to the extent possible is good policy. Immigration of indigestible people groups is bad. Money’s true nature is law. Never let your national money extend past your borders.

    The virus is reinforcing above stated natural laws. If the “bad guys” were trying something nefarious with this virus, then they are too stupid to walk upright – as it has boomeranged. It is destroying their international rent schemes.

    Our (((friends))) have always been internationalists and merchants, wanting to hold the money power in their hands, and to make money on international trade transactions.

    The shitty little Zionist state still gets its usury from international connections, its sayanim and international diaspora. The virus is not helpful to them in the long run.

  137. @Trinity

    Well whatever happens a Jewish doctor/scientist will still get the Nobel Prize.

    • Agree: Trinity
  138. SBaker says:

    Yep, we are demonizing the commies. What the hell, Mao only killed 50 million worthless Chinese.

    It’s beyond dispute that the novel coronavirus officially known as COVID-19originated in Wuhan, China. In coverage of the growing pandemic, the mainstream media has repeatedly and regularly referred to COVID-19 as both the Wuhan Virus and the China Virus, neither designation being inaccurate. However, as the Chinese communist government seeks to shift blame for its poor handling of the initial outbreak and its subsequent cover-up of its own failure to properly alert the rest of the world, rather than shine a white-hot spotlight on Beijing’s failure, the American media elected to go to bat for the ChiComs.

    At Wednesday’s White House press conference, an ABC reporter asked President Donald Trump: “Why do you keep calling this the ‘Chinese Virus’? There are reports of dozens of incidents of bias against Chinese Americans in this country. Your own aide, [HHS] Secretary [Alex] Azar, says he does not use this term. He says ethnicity does not cause the virus. Why do you keep using this? A lot of people think it’s racist.” (By which, of course, she means she and her media pals.)

    Of all the practical, urgent, and substantive concerns the American people have during this pandemic, the MSM elects to gin up a faux “racist” controversy over Trump’s referencing the coronavirus as the “China Virus.” Talk about a raging case of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

    Trump responded in a measured and entirely appropriate manner, answering matter-of-factly, “Because it comes from China.” When the reporter doubled down by insisting that “people say it’s racist,” Trump shot back, “It’s not racist at all. No. Not at all. It comes from China. That’s why.”

    At another point during the press conference, a PBS reporter once again pushed the “racist” accusation, this time claiming that an unnamed member of the administration had referred to the virus as the “Kung Flu” and asking if Trump thought that was wrong. Trump then asked who specifically had called it that, to which the reporter had no answer but continued to ask if using the term “Chinese Virus” put Asian Americans at risk. Once again Trump bluntly answered, “No, not at all. I think they probably would agree with it 100%. It comes from China. There’s nothing not to agree on.”

    What the MSM is doing is acting as the propaganda arm of the ChiComs. Criticism that Trump has gone out of his way to mendaciously label COVID-19 the China Virus is false — and it’s not him simply trolling the Leftmedia. In fact, his rationale for doing so has everything to do with combating Beijing’s state-media disinformation campaign that the U.S. military seeded the virus. “That can’t happen,” Trump emphasized. “It’s not going to happen — not as long as I’m president.”

    The truth is that the Chinese communist government is to blame for this global pandemic, not the Chinese people at large. In fact, those who have suffered the most from the pandemic are the Chinese people, thanks to their communist overlords’ malpractice and attempted cover-up. And now the rest of the world is suffering.

    Never have MSM propagandists acted more despicably than they are now, effectively going to bat for those most responsible for unleashing this pandemic and then turning and blaming an American president for accurately and pointedly noting this reality. The degree of hypocrisy and divisiveness displayed by the MSM at a time of national crisis is simply unacceptable.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
    , @KA
  139. A very well penned article, ma sha ALLAH.

    While there is unquestionable merit in reminding us of the historical precedents for false-flag operations set by the usual suspects and in using these precedents as a roadmap by which to navigate the present and future course of events, the majority of us still remain fairly incapable of affecting change beyond the most intimate of spheres we occupy. This is the reality with which we will have to cope for the foreseeable future.

    And if any news, whether of safety or fear, comes to them, they noise it abroad, whereas if they had referred it to the Messenger and to such of them as are in authority, those among them who are able to deliberate upon the matter would have known it. [4: 83]

    Where no such reliable authority exists, we are subsumed by the swelling tide of rumor and suspicion, the miasma of which serves only to suffocate reason and rational action at a time of pervasive societal crisis.

    I know this has been said many times before, but particularly in a situation such as our current one, it becomes imperative to focus upon obligations more local to our well-being. Even if we knew with 99% certainty that Covid-19 was manufactured by zionists and used as a weapon in yet another false-flag operation, the problems of how we proceed with such knowledge would continue to demand practical solutions, and given the depth and breadth of the present power apparatus, those solutions may not prove to be as ideal as we’d like them to be.

    I have spoken previously of the long-term benefit gained by forming foundations predicated upon religiously/ideologically sound criteria and using said organizations as a vehicle by which to effectively control the administration of rural hamlets and townships, much as the Satmar Jews have done in Upstate New York. Such a construct would function to satisfy the desire of fellow travelers seeking some measure of autonomy and serve as a more effective means of dealing with crises such as the one we now confront.

    Yes, it is still impossible to avoid unequivocally the entirety of invasive federal mandates by such a method of political administration, but without that method, it becomes exponentially more difficult.

    Until the ebb tide …

    Narrated Abu Huraira:

    Allah’s Messenger said, “There will be afflictions during which a sitting person will be better than a standing one, and the standing one will be better than a walking one, and the walking one will be better than a running one, and whoever will expose himself to these afflictions, they will destroy him. So whoever can find a place of protection or refuge from them, should take shelter in it.”

  140. SBaker says:
    @Saggy

    meant to hit the ‘troll’ button …. this article is completely worthless, ‘circumstantial’ BS that undermines opposition to the establishment, and Unz comments supporting such idiocy “”

    Remember, this site is dominated by Muslims and leftists, many of which are from countries run by dictators. Some of these posters are paid trolls.

    • Agree: CanSpeccy
    • LOL: AnonStarter
    • Replies: @SBaker
  141. @Ron Unz

    @Ron Unz

    So if American biowarfare analysts were considering a Coronavirus attack against China, isn’t it quite possible they would have said to themselves that since SARS never significantly leaked back into the US or Europe, we’d similarly remain insulated from the Coronavirus? Obviously, such an analysis was foolish and mistaken, but would it have seemed so implausible at the time?

    Not necessarily. Implicit in the question is the assumption that the virus strains unleashed on China and Iran were the same ones as now seen in the United States and Europe. Such unanticipated blowback would indeed be “foolish and mistaken”. In the current geopolitical confrontation with China and Iran, the finger of guilt for a bioweapons attack would immediately point to Sam — Dunkirk for good U.S. propaganda.

    Maybe the specific China agent was, as we are seeing, was tougher but designed with a short shelf-life. Do we really know whether the agent the Chinese have sequenced is the same as the “corona” now popping up in the States?

    The Army has some experience with such things. For example, its laboratories at Ft-Det & Walter Reed came up with only truly effective anti-malaria drug in a crash program during the Vietnam war. The Army then forced all combat troops to swallow this new super-pill starting late 1967 when really deadly falciparum malaria spread down from the North with NVA troops and nearby GIs caught it. The pill worked.

    This seems to have been the forerunner of mefloquin, which later under a cozy PP deal was handed over to Hoffmann LaRoche and Smith Klein for lucrative commercial marketing. But word had already spread in the ranks in the late 60s that the troops may have been used as guinea pigs to circumvent stringent FDA testing requirements.

    Only after 2000 was the already long, long controversial mefloquin discontinued for all troops. That happened only after repeated warnings from FDA that mefloquin can cause permanent brain damage as well as various psychotic symptoms indistinguishable from PSTD. The Vietnam pill was an expedient for the Sam’s war effort. No one seemed to worry about the delayed consequences. Do you see a parallell to Corona-19 in its possibly diferent forms?

  142. Agent76 says:

    Sep 6, 2019 9/11 Whistleblowers

    In the early 2000s, Kevin Ryan was the site manager at Environmental Health Laboraties. On November 11, 2004, he wrote directly to Frank Gayle, the director of NIST’s Twin Towers investigation. The following week, he was fired. This is his story.

    2.3 TRillion Dollars Missing from DOD Day before 9/11/ 2001

    SEPTEMBER 10, 2001 Defense Business Practices

    Secretary Rumsfeld and other officials talked with reporters about the need to refine the Defense Department’s business practices. An opening ceremony will kick off Acquisition and Logistics Excellence Week.

    http://www.c-span.org/video/?165947-1/defense-business-practices

  143. Republic says:
    @Quintus

    That drug is available over the counter in most countries without the need for costly RX

  144. Anonymous[178] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Good post.

  145. @Franklin Ryckaert

    I have read about all the marriages, but not the adoptions.

    The Zionists are trying very hard. But I doubt the Chinese are that stupid.

    There was a recent attempt at allowing immigrants in China, the Chinese govt allowed online debate on the topic.

    It was opposed by the majority of chinese.

    Hope the Chinese keep it up. It is for their own good.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  146. Greg Bacon says: • Website
    @Just Passing Through

    Moshe, I’m sure your aware that most western nations, including the USA, have already passed the Jew Noahide Laws into effect?
    And that many Rabbis advocate that all Gentiles that don’t bow down to that cult be executed?

    But you won’t talk about that, you just put pics advocating violence against the people Israel wants murdered, Muslims so that apartheid nightmare can keep stealing their land and water.

    Are you related to Kosher Nostra Komrade, A123? Or is this just an ADL or JDL or Megaphone or JIDF or Israel’s Unit 8200 psyops?

    • Replies: @Just Passing Through
  147. @Franklin Ryckaert

    However Barretts claim of a “27 million Muslim holocaust” post 9/11 is a tenfold exaggeration. Deaths in Afghanistan + Iraq + Libya + Syria is 2,7 million at most.

    I don’t know about tenfold, but I suspect with all of the DU in Iraq and Afghanistan it will be a lot more than 2.7, which might be the number for those “executed” during the invasions.

    My gripe was with the

    wholesale demonization of the world’s two greatest classical civilizations,

    China I can understand, but the reality is that Islam in and of itself, inherited then destroyed a classical civilization. They burned anything that did not fit the Koran.

  148. Skeptikal says:

    “Will the panicked American sheeple, stampeded toward the toilet paper aisles by Coronavirus 911-2B, be redirected into a hyper-militarized mode of life befitting a long war for full spectrum dominance? Will the Great Coronavirus Depression end in World War III just as the first Great Depression ended in World War II, with military Keynesianism once again “rescuing” a dead-in-the-water economy? Will 9/11 and the 9/11 wars seem like small potatoes once we’ve seen the Coronavirus Wars?”

    No.
    The question is certainly valid, and pressing.
    I just don’t see Americans going in for this crap at this point in time, if ever.
    My opinion of the American people is just not that low.

    I do think enough people see through the BS and would immediatly know that it is not in their interest to go off and fight a pointless war with China.

    They would prefer to see manufacturing jobs brought back to their towns.

  149. refl says:
    @Greg Bacon

    Don’t know about UNZ readers, but creating bio-weapons that target specific genotypes sounds like what took place in China, then Iran, where the virus mutated to target Persians.

    Be careful with your assumptions. As my take is that the Corona-story is to a huge extend a hoax, the fact that known iranian officials died from it, is a serious point.
    Possibly, the iranian officials might just as well have been poisoned by any means and that then the narrative was spun. A few weeks after the Soleimani assassination some other official in Iran was murdered in the country. So the means are there.

    The story is being spun in numerous layers right before our eyes.

    • Replies: @Aqualung
  150. Flubber says:
    @Sparkon

    “plagiarized”

    I assumed the readers of this blog were not so stupid as to not recognise the quotation.

    I assumed wrong it seems.

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  151. @dimples

    Possibly the virus is an engineered product, I don’t know, that is up to those with bio-molecular expertise and experience. But released on purpose? A stretch to be sure given the all too predictable consequences.

    I think you are being naive. This happened where I live:
    https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/u-s-secretly-tested-carcinogen-in-western-canada-during-the-cold-war-researcher-discovers
    Winnipeg and the surrounding area have unusually high rates of bowel cancer and bowel disease.

  152. @Robert White

    Engineered bat virus stirs debate over risky research

    An experiment that created a hybrid version of a bat coronavirus — one related to the virus that causes SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) — has triggered renewed debate over whether engineering lab variants of viruses with possible pandemic potential is worth the risks.

    https://www.nature.com/news/engineered-bat-virus-stirs-debate-over-risky-research-1.18787?WT.mc_id=TWT_NatureNews

    Looks like someone has been working behind your back.

    Does anyone truly think that the nation that dropped multiple thousands of tons of Napalm & Agent Orange on Vietnamese peasants, used Iraq for a weapons testing ground in 1991 and ever since 2003, especially in Fallujah, where we murdered wholesale anyone left in town after the Army brass told them to vamoose, then brought in bulldozers to bury the evidence.
    And the nation that is so tough, that it uses pimply-faced kids, sitting in an AC bunker 9,000 miles away and commands them to sic Hellfire missiles onto weddings, apartments, mosques, hospitals and markets, do you really think that nation would stoop so low as to use bio-weapons?

    All this butchery is affecting someone, like our vets, whose conscience wouldn’t shut up, so over 60,000 committed suicide between 2008-2017

    https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/09/23/alarming-va-report-totals-decade-veteran-suicides.html

    Guess I should add that the USA Deep State helped Israel pull off the 9/11 false flag, but I won’t.

    • Agree: Parfois1
    • Thanks: Miro23
    • Replies: @SBaker
  153. @AnonFromBeijing

    There is a theory that Christianity in the west has been co opted by the Jews. Basically it means Christians who got twisted into serving jewish/zionist interests. This process started as early as the start of the 20th century.

    It is why you have 45% of the US population who consider Israel/ Jerusalem to be holy land. They are evangelicals. They are the ones who put bush Jr and trump into the white house.

    I personally would consider every single war since 2000 has been for israels benefit, maybe not wholely, but at least half.

  154. refl says:
    @St-Germain

    Great comment!

    So now we have it: Somebody sneezes in China and the entire world is locked down by government edict.

    Wish, I had written that.

  155. SBaker says:

    MSM Goes to Bat for ChiComs by Fomenting Faux Racism. Who controls the MSM? This is not like solving a triple integral.

  156. Ron Unz says:

    Well, I think I’ll take the liberty of republishing portions of a couple of my recent comments from other threads for those who haven’t seen them:

    here’s my analogy…

    Suppose two neighbors are feuding, and one of them has a psychopathic teenage son, who sneaks out late at night and starts an arson fire next door to “teach them a lesson.”

    But the victimized family smells smoke, wakes up, and using heroic effort puts the fire out with only fairly minor damage.

    Meanwhile, the fire spreads back to the teenager’s own house, and since the family is too lazy and incompetent to bother doing anything, the house catches on fire and burns to the ground, killing several relatives and leaving everyone homeless.

    Under such a scenario, wouldn’t it be more sensible for the attacked family to just quietly gloat a little and maybe offer condolences rather than to plot further vengeance?

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/arguably-wrong-potential-american-deaths-range-from-5k-to-5-million/#comment-3772963

    If this was a bioweapon released by the Us. The US would most certainly have a cure.

    Well, that would make perfect sense unless elements of the American national security establishment were criminal, crazy, and totally incompetent. However, they ARE criminal, crazy, and totally incompetent.

    Let’s focus on an important point about which I think we can all now agree…

    According to official US government estimates published in the NYT, it’s expected that up to 1.7 million Americans will die from the Coronavirus. Actually, the true figure may be far higher since they estimate that something like 200 million Americans will become infected, and 200 million infections would probably lead to many millions of deaths.

    Over the last couple of months, China locked down its entire country in quarantine and stamped out the disease. South Korea, Japan, and Taiwan took immediate action to avert the disaster, and have successfully avoided substantial fatalities.

    Meanwhile, during the same period the American government was so incredibly stupid, crazy, and incompetent that it did absolutely nothing, meaning that millions of Americans may quite possibly die as a consequence.

    So everyone can agree that the American government is so stupid, crazy, and incompetent that millions of Americans may soon die.

    Therefore, isn’t it plausible that elements of a government so stupid, crazy, and incompetent as to cause the deaths of millions of Americans might also be so stupid, crazy, and incompetent as to have deployed a deadly bioweapon against China (and Iran)?

    https://www.unz.com/article/was-coronavirus-a-biowarfare-attack-against-china/#comment-3773960

  157. Alfred says:
    @Chroniccough

    I strongly recommend the work of Martin Armstrong. He forecast this thing 3 years ago – 10 March 2020. Here is his blog. He is a very wealthy man and is doing this as a public service. I was a cynic to start with.

    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/blog/

    He is forecasting that after this drop, there will be a rise to a higher level than ever before. He also forecast the current rise in the USD. Everyone else – especially in the commentary in blogs such as this one – has been suggesting that the end of the dollar was neigh. 🙂

    Here is his letter today to Trump. He has advised heads of state for 40 years. He believes Trump is receiving bad advice.

    Asking for Your Help – Forward This Letter To Whoever You May Think Will Help | Armstrong Economics

    • Replies: @Chroniccough
    , @Tor597
  158. @Anonymous

    “I originally thought the Coronavirus was a bioweapon targeted against China. But that doesn’t make sense now that the virus has gone global and has hit US shores. ”

    Your reservations seem to be based on an assumption of competence of the perpetrators.

    It is not one I share.

  159. cranc says:

    Worth looking at this thread by Swiss Propaganda Research which links to the recently published data from Italy (amongst many other things) :
    https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/
    Almost everyone who has died out there had at least one cause of comorbidity. They were majoritively old and ill.
    I’ve been critical of OffGuardian’s line on the matter of the virus (i.e. that COVID response is basically exaggerated beyond all proportion and is best considered as driven by media hype and an undisclosed agenda) , but am now taking it seriously, as it appears to be at least partially backed up by the Italian ISS data. Hat tip to them.

  160. Everything is only speculation.
    But this one certainly makes sense.

  161. Alfred says:
    @DaveE

    It took us years to put the 9/11 pieces together and realize the gargantuan Zionist scam

    When my mother in London phoned me to tell me that “something was happening in New York”, I got to see on TV the second building being hit. Later, when I saw huge chunks of matter flying heavenwards, I realised that it was a controlled-demolition.

    I studied civil engineering 50 years ago. Maybe they no longer teach engineers the Laws of Motion of Isaac Newton. I don’t know. But the silence by the engineering profession has been deafening my ears ever since.

    There is not need to analyze anything. The videos give the game away to any scientifically-educated person.

    • Agree: Kevin Barrett
    • Replies: @DaveE
    , @anon8383892
    , @Iris
  162. @Malcolms_brother

    And pray tell, how the oligarchs will/or have escaped being infected? Have they and their progeny been secretly vaccinated? With all flights being cancelled, how are they going to bolt to their burrows.
    The only way to tell is check on the fatality rate among the super rich in the days to come.

  163. @Ron Unz

    The 200 million infection figure for the U.S. that you suggest is hyper-octane hyperbole. Not sure where you got that number from or how. Whatever the original source, that’s clearly propaganda coming from them.

    You do realize 200 mil would be nearly two-thirds of the U.S. population, no? The U.S. population is 330 mil. The Spanish Flu never infected that many people, nor Swine Flu, nor Bird Flu, NOR the SEASONAL FLU itself, nor this, nor that and so on and so forth.

    I’d imagine the infection at it’s very highest could be in the low single-digit millions, but unlikely.

    Also, the 5k to 5 mil deaths cited by Steve Sailer is also nonsense. Anything of such a wide range tells you that the original person who came up with it really has no clue and is just pulling a figure out of his backside.

    If 5 mil deaths, that would mean more than 166 mil infected (166,666,666 to be more exact), given a 3% fatality rate. That’s way more than one-third of the U.S. population.

    5k deaths is way more reasonable and more likely. That would mean 166,666 infections in the U.S.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Anonymous
  164. Alfred says:

    Let’s take a look at the media of Israel. It will be interesting to see how many Jews die – if any. Let’s not forget that the Israelis are past masters at manipulating their casualties of war and conflict.

    To me, the number of “serious” cases is remarkably low – especially when compared to Iran. I guess it is because Iranian doctors are so bad. /sarc

    Jump of 96 sick people over day earlier, partially due to increase in number of tests given; most patients doing well, 6 remain in serious condition

    Number of confirmed virus cases hits 529 (Israel) as testing ramps up

    One of the most famous physicians in history was Persian – Ibn Sina (Avicenna)

  165. Sean says:
    @AnonStarter

    When an author is trying to convert the public to what is very much a minority view (in this post that a Deep State cabal is trying to start WW3 with a bioweapons attack on China), his readers have a reasonable expectation that his education and achievements or other qualifications validating his heterodox views will not be concealed by use of a pseudonym, and indeed Barrett did not use one.

    I was not the one who said Barrett is held in such low regard by public opinion that it is counter productive for him to use his own name, and he is not worth neutralising even by something that would attract little attention such as fraudulent IRS tax audit, framing for having illegal pornography, wrongly diagnosed as a danger to himself and others or civil suits of the type that silenced the Sandy Hook Truthers. You did, and you said that Barrett lost his credibility by having already gone public under his own name as a 9/11 Truther critical of Israel. I suggested that as someone unknown under his own name you could step up and prevent WW3, but for the fact that your resume was far less impressive than Doctor Barrett’s.

    • Replies: @AnonStarter
  166. SBaker says:
    @SBaker

    Ironic that a Muslim would take the name of bacon.

  167. SBaker says:
    @Greg Bacon

    The Muslim side of the story. Are you a Semite too?

  168. FB says: • Website
    @Greg Bacon

    …advanced forms of biological warfare that can target specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool…

    Thanks for digging that up…[from page 60 of the Project for the New American Century think tank’s 90-page report Rebuilding America’s Defenses, which is summarized at the link you posted…]

    Although it may take several decades for the process of transformation to unfold, in time, the art of warfare on air, land, and sea will be vastly different than it is today, and ‘combat’ likely will take place in new dimensions: in space, ‘cyber-space,’ and perhaps the world of microbes.

    Nobody can look at this and say this isn’t the work of madmen…but fast-forward twenty years since that insane screed was published, and those policies embarked upon, and where is the US now…?

    Losing badly on every single front, that’s where…just in the last several days the US military has had to flee from some of their bases in Iraq, due to being rocketed by increasingly hostile anti-occupation groups…Afghanistan is a lost cause and the US has agreed to a peace deal with the Taliban that amounts to the same kind of ‘peace with honor’ capitulation as Nixon sought in Vietnam…

    The US military might which these neocon crazies assumed would reign supreme, has been shown to be a paper tiger…cowed and humiliated by an Iranian missile attack on a US military base in Iraq in January that produced dozens of casualties…

    The US project for regime change in Syria has been thoroughly defeated…its Saudi allies are getting completely routed in Yemen…Libya is completely out of reach now…there is not a single conflict that the US has started in the last twenty years that it is not completely defeated…[only Israel hangs on to its brutal apartheid occupied territory, but for how much longer…?]

    The dream of ‘dominating’ space relies on Russian rocket engines to put US spy sats and other vital national security payloads into orbit…because the US is incapable of producing such technology on its own…the so-called ‘missile defense’ system has proved a complete papier-mâché joke, as North Korean missiles fly over the heads of dozens of ‘missile defense’ ships in the Sea of Japan…

    Didn’t really take all that long for this grandiose wishcasting by the neocons to go up in a puff of smoke, now did it…talk about delusional…

    Of course much of this utter failure was completely predictable at the time…and many did forecast exactly such an unraveling of this insane scheme…

    …Gabriel Kolko, research professor emeritus at York University and author of Another Century of War? (The New Press, 2002), in his article published in CounterPunch, and William Rivers Pitt, in Truthout, respectively, argued that the PNAC’s goals of military hegemony exaggerated what the military can accomplish, that they failed to recognize ‘the limits of US power’…

    • Agree: Kevin Barrett, Parfois1
  169. Aqualung says:
    @Anonymous

    Or China discovered a new strain of Corona virus, which is nothing special because it’s a common flu virus which is always mutating, and they weaponized the idea instead of he virus. They know in any given flu season a large percent of people will get a Corona virus, which a test can pick up on, so if they do more
    Testing, it will appear Cassie’s are going up. They decide to put on a huge show with them shutting down cities and building hospitals at lightning speed. This Fuels media hysteria, not just in China, but globally. Iran eventually joins China and starts their own media storm about Corona, maybe give some politicians and clerics an early retirement, but make sure the news coming out is pure doom. Now the fear factor is getting real, and the media is non stop Corona doom, drawing in everyone, right wing left wing and feeding on its own hysteria. Italy, another global player who is friendly with China, starts reporting pandemonium. Never mind the fact that average age of people dying is 80 and 99% had preexisting illness or disease. Americans are panicking as usual, and in the process destroying their economy. China/Iran/Russia sit back and laugh as America descends into self induced anarchy

  170. A123 says:
    @Quintus

    The U.S. is promoting generic chloroquine to fight WUHAN-19 virus. (1)

    President Donald Trump promoted the use of the anti-malaria drug chloroquine at the White House on Thursday, the purpose of which is to treat people infected with the coronavirus.

    “We’re going to be able to make that drug available almost immediately,” Trump said at the White House press briefing on Thursday.
    ….
    FDA commissioner Stephen Hahn said that under the president’s direction he would move quickly for a chloroquine clinical trial to test its ability to treat the coronavirus.

    In the meantime, doctors can ask for experimental drugs to use to treat their patients as part of a “compassionate use” program.

    Normally ‘experimental drugs’ are cost prohibitive. However in this case, chloroquine is a generic already used to fight malaria.

    Now all Trump has to do is make sure GlobalistPharma is kept at bay while single drug therapy is tried. No doubt the anti-Citizen CorporateLeft backing Quid Pro Joe will only want to test a ‘cocktail’ that includes at least one high cost component.

    PEACE 😷
    _______

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/19/donald-trump-chloroquine-treatment-coronavirus-showing-tremendous-results/

  171. @Trinity

    If one would peruse my posts they would find that I don’t care for Muslims and in particular the Arabs and I am hard on the Jew as well, not for occupying the so called promised land (I wish he would hurry up and complete the takeover), but for what he has been doing to the rest of the world in his spare time.

    But what baffles me the most is this: why doesn’t he just invent a virus that effects the brain which has imbibed Islam to kill all his enemies, if he is the genius who created the coronavirus? Surely, he can do anything being the Chosen!

  172. @Sasha

    Maybe, but my take is an engineered market crash

    , obvious, yet there are other elements of ambition. As you might well know, 2008 was no less engineered. Again catering to the surplus US population, the wizardy might stick, to the elites in other power centers of the world though, all this hoaxing looks misery.

    Now for China, or Russia, all significant players, none would hold back and answers must be in the make. All players know each other´s unlimited ambitions. Nothing new @any of them. To our knowledge, there is no single serious plan to deploy technology, science and social and political harnessing, economic sustainability, global population quality and sustainable numbers tuning into a “vision” other then washed out models, conflictive stances, base psychology. The ambition to play God, is not the same as assuming the responsibility of the Gods.

    To the credit of Putin and Xi, their public figures at the least look and feel more consistent and reposed. The American elites, pulling out all tricks, pandering about look ridiculous to the rest of the world. Covid-19 cannot change that. Re-assessing the accounting is just not credible any longer. Existing historical models are inadequate, will allow for a few more loops maybe, but then, either new lines of thought or bust.

    • Replies: @Sasha
  173. Ron Unz says:
    @Malcolms_brother

    The 200 million infection figure for the U.S. that you suggest is hyper-octane hyperbole. Not sure where you got that number from or how. Whatever the original source, that’s clearly propaganda coming from them…You do realize 200 mil would be nearly two-thirds of the U.S. population, no?

    Well, what do I know? I’m not a professional epidemiologist.

    But the estimate of something like 200 million infected Americans came from an official government CDC report that was published in my morning NYT. Right around then, Trump and all the politicians in DC got all agitated and began proposing massive national measures.

    The British government estimated that 60-70% of their own population would end up getting infected, and the German government said pretty much the same thing. So the US CDC estimates were hardly extreme outliers.

    A highly contagious disease which is spread for 1-2 weeks before the illness becomes apparent and to which no one has any immunity tends to increase exponentially. Someone claimed that the doubling-time of Coronavirus infections in the US was around five days. So what would stop 200 million people from getting infected?

  174. ld says:
    @Sean

    Since when has Empire cared about how obvious they are? There is a long list of wars, happy accidents murders and heart attacks where they offer the most transparent excuse and ignore the tsunami of questions and accusations from the annoying populace. Their contempt for Joe citizen has never been more apparent.

    • Agree: tomo
  175. @Greg Bacon

    Your comment is a perfect example of when someone starts taking ‘muh Palestinians’ meme seriously and interprets it from a leftist POV i.e. talking about Palestinians not to highlight the hypocrisy of the Jews (human rights for criminals in the West, while in Israel security services are in ‘weapons free’ status), but actually caring about them.

    Jews do not actually want ‘Muslims’ to be hurt in the West, which is what I was talking about, in fact they use Islam as a brush to sweep over Europe. Both are natural allies in this war against Europeans and if Muslims had any sense, they would not be attacking Jews whilst living in the West. Why? Because if they criticise Jewish Power, then Europeans might start to wonder why they too shouldn’t join in, and when Europeans join in, it will not be good for Jews *and* Muslims as the Holocaust legend is the thing that gets in the way of Europeans feeling comfortable about mass deportations (because we all know how it ended up when the Nazis done it right?)

    I personally do not see why I should be advocating for Palestinians not getting to live on that particular patch of land, they have many countries to go to. It also feels perverse doing so as even if the Palestinians were to get their land back, it still wouldn’t stop Muslims mass migrating to Europe and stealing *our* land.

    Imagine if our border guards were like the people in the video below?

    By the way, Palestinian IQ is around 84 (using figures of Jordan), it is not like they will use their land for any purpose other than turning it into a shithole. One has to wonder why they keep coming back to be shot day i day out. I am beginning to think they like it and the IDF are just doing them a favour.

  176. @St-Germain

    Sorry! Forgot to mention twofresh news items: 1. a French research group led by Didier Roault issued an invitation to health professionals only to participate in testing the anti-malaria agent hydroxichloroquine against corona virus because France and the Chinese among others have found it very effective in preventing that new corona virus parasitic infection. 2. The U.S. government offered $1 billion for control of Germany’s top vaccine manufacturer with the stipulation that all rights to its prospective cornna remedy would go to the United State only. Smelling an “offer it couldn’t refuse” the company alerted the German government, which replaced the CEO who had been invited to the White House and said the company was not for sale. It said any vaccine it makes would be for the whole world, not for just one country.

    So, there’s aconnection between malaria drug develpment, a U.S. Army specialty since 1963, and the corona virus vaccine race. Both malaria and corona come from blood parasites, although the former is mosquito-borne. Looks now like the same class of drugs can also kill two birds with one shot. Coincidence?

    • Replies: @A123
  177. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:

    I’m not one to revel in the suffering of other people, but considering how immoral, degenerate, and zombie-like much of the American populace is, I can’t help but see a culling of the American population as poetic justice. I particularly look forward to black Americans killing each other once the EBT runs out, as well as them getting knocked off when they try to invade well-armed suburban and rural communities.

  178. Sparkon says:
    @Flubber

    I assumed the readers of this blog were not so stupid as to not recognise the quotation.

    I assumed wrong it seems.

    Nice double negative.

    Obviously, I recognized the quotation, and I called you on it. Does that make me stupid?

    • Replies: @Flubber
  179. @Alfred

    Dear Alfred,

    Thank you for taking the time to answer me. I will review this very interesting resource. It looks promising.
    Regards.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  180. “. . .you might opt for a stealth 5G warfare approach featuring deniable biowar strikes among other tactics.”

    Are you using “stealth 5g warfare” as a metaphor for ???, or in terms of (what I believe are) very real potential harms from 5g in itself.

    We’ll all be walking around in a radiation field.

    The tired old hospital a few blocks away is building a massive new Cancer Center.
    Cancer centers are proliferating.
    So are cancers.
    What do investors in cancer centers know that I don’t know?

  181. This coronavirus is UN Agenda 2030 in action, google and read it, it is the writing on the wall by the globalists NWO, which is in action right now killing the American economy over a virus which was created to deliver a psyops on the American people.

  182. @Flubber

    We all know who the (((traitors))) are.
    They own the media, steal our military tech, sell it to our enemies and tell us we are ‘racists’.

    • Agree: tomo
  183. A123 says:
    @Ron Unz

    -1- The most likely explanation is still natural. If a simple malaria drug chloroquine is effective, that strongly suggests that WUHAN-19 is not a weaponized virus.

    The other likely scenarios are:

    -2- Escape from the Wuhan viral lab. Poorly paid workers need money for big holidays. If an employee was likely to do something foolish, it is logical & unsurprising that the WUHAN-19 escape would align with a holiday spending need.

    -3- Indiscriminate Mass Attack on multiple nations — U.S., China, etc..
    . -3a- Erdogan dislikes both the U.S. & China. Plus he is crazy enough to infect the world.
    . -3b- Sociopath Khameni also has no restraint and would be willing to exterminate all life on the planet.
    . -3c- Non-State terrorist group, such as Islamic Jihad or Islamic State.

    -4- Intentional Chinese false flag to blame the U.S.
    . Far fetched, but still vastly more likely than the 0% chance of a U.S. attack. WUHAN-19 would have guaranteed world wide spread while allowing the Chinese government to appear to be taking action.
    _____

    There is no plausible reason to believe the Trump administration ordered this attack.

    The U.S. Trade Negotiating Team lead by Robert E. Lighthizer has been beating the helpless Chinese totally senseless on every front. No one attacks a loser. The loser is already losing….

    A high spread choice, such as WUHAN-19 makes no sense. Any U.S. attack would have selected something more easily contained in China.

    If you believe that an Obama appointed traitor did this to over throw Trump, that should be classified as an anti-U.S. attack even if the material was illicitly & treasonously obtained from a U.S. facility.

    PEACE 😷

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  184. Anonymous[178] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malcolms_brother

    Ignorance and confidence are a bad mix. Please do some basic reading on the subject before opening your trap with such dismissiveness. Start with “R0 Coronavirus” Web search.

  185. Trinity says:
    @ΑΖ

    hahaha. Who would have thunk it. lolololol. (((This shit))) is so OBVIOUS that I can’t believe that even people who know the JQ much better than I, can’t figure it out. It doesn’t matter if the UK or USA were involved as well because we know that both of these “nations” are totally under the iron heel of ZOG. China? My ass. China is the victim and not the oppressor here, believe that. The poster who brought up that it was ironic that Italy, Iran and China have been the hardest hit was SPOT ON. I agree with him about it being odd that Russia being such an enemy of ZOG has escaped relatively unscathed by this (((virus.)))

    • Agree: tomo
  186. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    I would like to add to this, if I may.

    Are you aware of the religious group/cult from China called the Falun Gong? They were (past tense) a group of mutually-supporting, silently-conspiring Han Chinese who almost never spoke of their affiliation with their “cult”.

    That they had their own specific religious practices was never a problem. If they had stayed simply a religion, they would have been left alone.

    But, it was noticed by wider Chinese society that they tended to collude with other Falun Gong religious practitioners, and to be slowly and quietly placing their members into influential and sometimes even powerful positions in wider Chinese society. Everything from governments (local, provincial and even national), the educational system, the media, the military, and industry and finance.

    Of course, maybe the media and educational infiltration would not have gotten very far given the Chinese “censors” and the . . . “thought regulators”, but the attempt to infiltrate and hijack society was clearly being made. The Falun Gong conspiracy had been patiently operating in the shadows for quite a long time.

    This finally incited alarm and fury among the masses and the leadership. The Chinese state (through-out history) has always had strong safeguards against alien/foreign infiltration, apart from the innate paranoia and suspicions of the people themselves.

    So the PRC government swung into action, banning Falun Gong, arresting many members at all levels (all the way to the National), throwing a huge number (a VERY huge number, including families, it is said) into “re-education camps”.

    They forced, by various means (use your imagination), members of the group to turn each other in. Every Falun Gong sympathizer was uncovered and stripped of influence. Teachers pointed out officials, who pointed out businessmen, who denounced Party members, who turned in PLA officers. An unknown number of executions followed, and rather more consigned to the prison camps.

    Falun Gong influence was thoroughly purged from Chinese life.

    And that, IMHO, is the source of much of the championing of Falun Gong (some of whom escaped) by the Western MSM, and its owners and controllers.

    After all, if China can purge and then destroy people clearly their own (full-blooded Chinese, albeit engaged in conspiracy against society), how could those very clearly alien manage to subvert and manipulate the Chinese into being their slaves? And how could China be destroyed from within?

    Well, it VERY probably cannot.

  187. @Just Passing Through

    A classic Israeli propaganda line, the “many lands to go to.”

    This creepy commenter reveals himself for just what he is.

  188. peterAUS says:
    @bobbybobbob

    The virus is natural. The CCP elites are using it in exactly the same way the USG and EU elites are. Both financial systems and economies were clearly crashing beginning in early September. Now the elites get to blame all the troubles on a virus (which isn’t actually killing anyone in interesting numbers). Absent the WuFlu they’d all risk getting strung up pretty soon. Now instead of being called out for the decade+ of ineptitude that lead to a collapsing global bubble economy, they get to be praised as heroes that saved everyone from dying.

    Yep.

    Plus, imposing more controls on the willing public.

    Good play.

  189. A123 says:
    @St-Germain

    The U.S. government offered $1 billion for control of Germany’s top vaccine manufacturer with the stipulation that all rights to its prospective cornna remedy would go to the United State only.

    This Fake Stream Media [FSM] lie was already thoroughly debunked days ago. (1)

    German newspaper claiming that President Donald Trump wanted to secure exclusive American access to a coronavirus vaccine has proven to be false, but only after the story was repeated and spread by mainstream media outlets including Reuters, The Guardian, and Business Insider.

    Reuters later stealth-edited its story to incorporate official statements denying the original newspaper report. But a New York Times journalist had already shared the Reuters article before it was altered. An MSNBC producer also shared the story.

    German media deceivers are no different than than the rest of the FSM. DW=CNN

    Please stop repeating their lies.

    PEACE 😷
    _______

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2020/03/16/reuters-stealth-edits-debunked-story-claiming-trump-sought-monopoly-on-covid-19-vaccine/

    • Replies: @St-Germain
  190. Aqualung says:
    @refl

    China/Iran weaponized common flu simply by putting on a great show. Shuttering cities, building hospitals at lightning pace, imposing draconian travel bans and leaking questionable videos. Iran does the same and sends some clerics and politicians to early retirement. Max doom from their media, feeds into ours. Left or right, it’s bipartisan fear. Corona is one of the more common flu viruses, thousands get it every year, so slowly ramping up testing specifically for that virus will inevitably lead to a perceived exponential spike especially if you never compare it to other flues this year or last. Anyway, America destroys their economy in the panic.

    • Replies: @refl
  191. FB says: • Website
    @AnonFromBeijing

    …Your elite and your people deserve each other, just like master and slaves deserve each other…

    LOL…you’re way too intelligent for this website, friend…you will get bored here very quickly I predict…

    …Jew & Israel, have to serve the Anglo since Zionist have no backups no hidings, some times function as scapegoats and get given up or set up by the Anglo to ease the angry of common white or other elite.

    That’s pretty much it…you will find plenty of these ‘common white’ here on this website…they’re entire existence revolves around blaming the wrong people for their misery…mostly ‘commies’ and Jews…

    ‘The public must be put in its place…so that each of us may live free of the trampling and roar of the bewildered herd.’

    –Walter Lippman, Society in its Place

    ‘You have to control people by control of beliefs and attitudes’…[when the people] are spectators not participants, then you’ll have a properly functioning democracy…the idea is to try to control everyone…they want to create an uninformed electorate which will make irrational choices…often against their own interests…

    –Noam Chomsky

    So you see what has happened here is that the smart people [those with the intelligence and the money and power] have basically created a completely fantastic parallel universe that has nothing to do with reality [commies killed a gazillion people] that very effectively steers the sheeple right into the box of rampant ignorance that the elite want them to inhabit…

    The sheeple of course are weak-minded, unable to think for themselves, and simply gravitate to easy solutions and scapegoats pre-manufactured for them by the intelligentsia…ie blame others, go and vent in this direction…just don’t blame us, your rulers, who are the real source of your misery…LOL

    It is amazingly effective…you will find on this very website proof of this at least a thousand times a day…it’s like unruly children who are given toys on which they can take out their frustrations, while the parents go about their business in peace and quiet…

    • Replies: @Polemos
  192. UK says:

    The US did better in the 2019 Military Games than the 2015 ones. You conspiracy theorist loons can’t be bothered to check anything.

    • Replies: @Herald
  193. MollyA says:
    @Sasha

    Please don’t concern yourself too much about his supporters. The president is doing what he is forced to do for the cartoon MSM while taking advantage of the crisis behind the scenes. He tried to tell the media it wasn’t that bad, but they just didn’t want to hear it. They yelled about China but when Trump called it Chinese, they screamed at him. Actually it was made here (I live not far from Fort Detrick, one of the workshops), and Bill Gates was involved in some weird way he always is in this kind of thing. Short of forcibly infecting millions of people with a mediocre virus, the surreal lie of this “plague” will be exposed as we look around expecting sickness everywhere, and mirabile dictu, there is almost no more than usual. It is astonishing the degree to which they have spread this fear and it had to have been planned long ago. PBS even had a documentary on the Spanish Influenza of 1918 ready for play in March. I may have to reconsider my contribution list.

    • Agree: Sasha
  194. So how exactly is this reset of Americans gonna happen? Are the illegals and H1 folks going to be fighting mad at the Chinese or Russians or Palestinians or Iranians? How about all those inner city kids that have to be fed breakfast and lunch? I get most here hating the deep state, but they won’t be able to rally anyone at this point. Couple of months of quarantine isn’t going to help in them either.

    Plus who exactly is the boogeyman? Last time I checked the only consistently named enemy of the people was the white, gentile male. Perhaps this article was just more of the same? I do find it curious how many Chinese nationalists work at the American bio labs. Maybe I’m onto something. After all this bug is hitting the descendants of Rome pretty hard. Now to wiping out the Anglo Saxons and Celts.

    PS I also knew 9/11 narrative was a heap of bull feces.

  195. @anon

    You talk like the five year olds I remember in the playground long ago: “If you don’t like it here you can always leave.” Not juvenile. Infantile.

    • Replies: @anon
  196. @onebornfree

    Absolutely brilliant interview with David Icke. Thanks OBF.

    • Replies: @onebornfree
  197. @John Chuckman

    Only ethnomasochist and/or demented Whites actually care about Palestinians, I would certainly support them if it meant all Muslims went back to their own lands, but since most Muslims are not displaced by war (the majority of Muslims in Europe are Pakistani, Moroccan, Algerien etc), they will continue to stay even if Palestinians get their lands back.

    Muslims are a cancer, they will spread everywhere. Only Islamists genuinly care about Palestinians, the rest of us just use them to undermine Israel and highlight the hypocrisy of the Jews. We simple want to show Whites that is is acceptable to take certain actions to protect one’s ethnic group, just as the Israelis do.

    Anyway, White Nationalists should support Israel as it is a place that all Jews could eventually go to. I would even advocate more ethnic cleansing of Muslims if it made room for all Jews to move there. Muslims will breed like rabbits and make up for the cull in a short period of time.

    • Troll: anon-og, Nonny Mouse
  198. @Sean

    My favorite Yiddish saying is: “If you tell the truth, make it funny, or they’ll kill you.”

    So I write satire as life insurance: https://kevinbarrett.heresycentral.is/category/satire/

    It has worked fine so far.

  199. Anon[123] • Disclaimer says:

    The ability of the biowarfare or biotec scientists to manipulate DNA or RNA to achieve a particular result either in disease or ethnocentric targeting is wildly overestimated in the press and otherwise. It is hyped by Biowarfare “Experts” in governments seeking funding and in biotec by scientists trying to IPO or sell themselves to big-pharma. The ability of big pharma to do this is non-exisitent as they are monopolist bankers and never invent anything despite the enourmos R&D budgets. That an existing disease and possible candidate for biowarfare, could escape from the new Wuhan lab, (certified 2015 and the only level 4 lab in China) is far more plausible, given Chinese attitudes towards quality control rules and regulations. Iran’s intense interaction with China because of the sanctions over the past years has facilitated spread through increased travel between Wuhan and Quom. Some of the same Chinese trade facilatators traveled to Italy negotiating the belt and road, which is a comedy heading to a unfortunate end despite however much Panda boy pays Pepe to shill for him. I don’t see any plausible link to Israel here, but Bill Gates is mighty strange.

  200. FB says: • Website
    @AnonFromBeijing

    And just to illustrate my earlier point about the predictable stupidity of the noisy, indoctrinated sheeple that puzzle you here…an example from one such ruminant…

    White Europeans have the dubious distinction of being hated and despised most passionately by jews and this is why powerful jewish forces have been deliberately flooding every single historic White European nation on Earth with millions of non-white aliens from the third world.

    This is the ‘Great Replacement’ agenda.

    So the influx of millions of desperate folks willing to work for peanuts and thus drive down the wages of ordinary Americans and Europeans in the turbo-capitalist system is not due to any desire to profit on our labor…but is simply motivated by the hate of Jews towards whites…?

    You decide if that passes even the most basic human logic…?

    And these same indoctrinated fools, their heads filled with koolaid about the glory of capitalism…will stand up and actually defend the right of billionaires to just keep on fleecing everybody…

    You will also see them railing most passionately against the ‘Chicoms’…even as China’s people continue to ascend to ever greater heights of prosperity, while their own beloved, capitalism buries them ever deeper into bondage…

    Again, you decide whether these ‘highly intelligent’ white folks are shooting at the right target…LOL

    • Agree: anon8383892
    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  201. tomo says:
    @antibeast

    Too many of us assume these psychopaths in charge of our Idiocracy are actually wise, knowledgeable and even honorable (mostly thanks to the loudest megaphone the same psychopaths own and control to spread disinformation)

    Psychopaths don’t think that way – they are kind of like HIV in how they act

    9-11 and Coronavirus is exactly something they would do – especially because it seems anti-intuitive.
    The same way blaming their victims for their crimes does – and that’s why psychopaths use these tricks to manage us.

    Normal people find such behavior hard to believe – and that is exactly why psychopaths and psychopathic ‘cultures’ use them.
    It’s all about confusing their victims before they try to destroy them completely.
    it’s a 100% predatory mindframe.
    And don’t forget most of these ‘wealthy’ (in money only perhaps) people got their wealth from their equally dumb and clueless parents whose only skill also is kissing ass to their wealthy parents so to inherit the ill-gotten $$.
    After a few generation of such degenerated incompetent people in power – you end up where we are now – Trump as a ruler of world’s biggest idiocracy ever

    • Agree: Cassandra, Alfred
  202. Trinity says:
    @John Chuckman

    I thought it was just me, but that guy/gal/thing is indeed CREEPY and is an obvious (((troll.))) haha.

  203. @A123

    As the TROLL turns.

    • Troll: A123
  204. jamesfetzer.org:”The only pandemic in America is that of unbridled fear and a total lack of intelligent thought” By Gary D.Burnett :
    “Can the common flu cause people in America and worldwide to lose their minds and their ability to think?Apparently that is the case , as Americans have gone insane over a monster created in thin air called Coronavirus . I have anticpated a scenario such as this, and written about it for a decade or more , but the response by the people of this country is more ridiculous than even I could have imagined …It is my belief that the regular flu is being used as a cover for this fake virus and will serve to hide fault of a State-created economic collapse…Trump and his entourage… are actually preparing the sheep for ongoing martial law.”

    • Agree: Iva, Desert Fox
    • Replies: @Off The Reservation
  205. Herald says:
    @anon8383892

    Could be a positive side-effect, if some statistically significant portion snap out of their brain-damaged hypnotic entrainment habit, they could indeed take up some intellectual habits conducive to civic participation and productive enterprise.

    If only they would, but I’m not holding my breath.

  206. Alfred says:
    @Chroniccough

    My pleasure. 🙂

    I am trying to enroll in his paid-for service but it is currently impossible to do so. His servers are overloaded as the traffic has gone up fourfold in the past week.

    We Apologize For Site Overload – Expanded Servers Are Up | Armstrong Economics

  207. Alfred says:

    There is an additional unconfirmed report from a high level intelligence asset that low level Sarin gas has been dropped on Iran, Italy and Spain to mimic CV19. Sarin can take two weeks to kill and causes death by pneumonia. It is undetectable. Long story here to be told later if confirmations come in, a very nasty story. From a classified source, translated from Russian”

    Iran threatens missile attack on US bio-weapon labs, Intel Drop (updating)

  208. @Just Passing Through

    Pure, unadulterated racism, not to mention the embrace of anti-democratic and human rights attitudes.

    Donald Trump and Mike Pompeo without the thin veneer of acceptability. Grand Wizard David Duke in his prime.

    Or, more fitting still, Avigdor Lieberman.

    • Troll: Genrick Yagoda, SBaker
  209. anon[182] • Disclaimer says:

    M. Unz’s analogy to domestic arson is appealing but inaccurate in this case. What we have here is an act subject to two institutionalized legal processes: international criminal law and state responsibility for internationally wrongful acts. These are two complementary means of righting wrongs but they don’t provide for either vengeance or gloating.

    Since use of COVID-19 is an undeclared act of war, the international criminal law at issue is that governing crimes against peace:

    https://legal.un.org/ilc/texts/instruments/english/commentaries/7_4_1996.pdf

    This is in a late stage of development, but formal acceptance of the code doesn’t matter because for the gravest crimes, the principle is, you should know better.

    Now another way to handle CIA’s germ warfare is to treat it as an internationally wrongful act in breach of jus cogens. This provides for restitution, reparations, satisfaction, and compensation with interest for the consequences of CIA use of COVID-19. The rules are different, but they articulate with international criminal law because satisfaction may involve prosecution of designated suspects (Robert Gates, Hayden, Haspel, etc.) The procedure is analogous in function to domestic tort law.

    https://legal.un.org/ilc/texts/instruments/english/commentaries/9_6_2001.pdf
    (This is a draft because the annotations help explain the precedents and rationale.)

    So this is what’s gonna happen to the DO psychos. After the war.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  210. Flubber says:
    @Sparkon

    Yes it makes you stupid.

    To make an accusation of plagiarism where none was attempted, makes you an pedant as well.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
    , @Sparkon
  211. Tor597 says:
    @Alfred

    False, I am a fan of Armstrong but he badly missed this call. All of the people who are deep into Armstrongs work and use Socretes know this.

    I can’t blame him too much since this was such a black swan event. But anyone that relied on Armstrong to play the last 3 months lost a lot of money.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  212. anon[414] • Disclaimer says:
    @ploni almoni

    No that isn’t infantile at all. Why would an Islamist stay surrounded by the infidel except only to stir trouble and discontent among that people? My guess would be that’s just the plan. Dis-information warriors to sow discontent and to separate the people from each other. It’s like they just sit toiling in their shit. The Palestinian problem is thousands of miles from here, it doesn’t concern me. Look what happened to S. Africa when it was handed to the Communists who were supported by the old Soviet Union.

    • Agree: SBaker
    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  213. Truth3 says:

    This is the kind of rot Press TV publishes.

    No, KB was spot on, Zhydi.

  214. peacenik says:

    Some food for thought:

    “The basic logic is that the geographical location with the greatest diversity of virus strains must be the original source because a single strain cannot emerge from nothing [. . .] only the US has all the five known strains of the virus (while Wuhan and most of China have only one, as do Taiwan and South Korea, Thailand and Vietnam, Singapore, and England, Belgium and Germany) . . .”

    Source: https://www.globalresearch.ca/china-coronavirus-shocking-update/5705196?utm_campaign=magnet&utm_source=article_page&utm_medium=related_articles

    • Replies: @SBaker
  215. Trinity says:

    ZIOvid-19. Nuff said.

  216. @Just Passing Through

    By the way, Palestinian IQ is around 84 (using figures of Jordan), it is not like they will use their land for any purpose other than turning it into a shithole.

    In another comment from a few days ago you said:

    All the stuff I see around my house was invented by Europeans…

    Exactly, and as a European I demand my right to invade your house and take your stuff. I will make better use of it than you. And I’ll do you the favor of treating you as a Chosenbaum treats a Palestinian when you have the nerve to protest. Deal? I think so.

    [MORE]

    Go lick a toilet seat!

    • Agree: Cyndy
  217. Ron Unz says:
    @anon

    M. Unz’s analogy to domestic arson is appealing but inaccurate in this case…Since use of COVID-19 is an undeclared act of war, the international criminal law at issue is that governing crimes against peace:…Now another way to handle CIA’s germ warfare is to treat it as an internationally wrongful act in breach of jus cogens. This provides for restitution, reparations, satisfaction, and compensation with interest for the consequences of CIA use of COVID-19.

    Well, first of all there’s no solid evidence that the Coronavirus outbreak was a biowarfare attack, and there may never be…

    But let’s suppose a case is somehow made and reasonably proven. The consequences will have been trillions of dollars of damage to the American economy, hundreds of millions of Americans severely inconvenienced or financially damaged, and (if we’re lucky!) maybe only tens of thousands of American deaths. This would quite possibly be one of the worst national disasters in our entire history.

    If it were reasonably proven that certain individuals in the CIA or some other government agency were responsible, do you think there would be enough pieces left of their bodies to consider applying “jus cogens” or anything else??!!

    • Replies: @cranc
    , @DaveE
    , @Antiwar7
    , @Incitatus
  218. S says:

    Great article.

    Whether the virus was ‘planned’ (ie created) or not, it can be used for all sorts of things:

    1) Should it mutate, or, as it is, simply be handled completely incompetently, it may be used to push global population down closer to the five hundred million ‘sustainable’ figure which has long been touted by some powerful people and their hangers on.

    2) To break the US economically by ‘shutting everything down’, and to thereby cause the ‘Fall of Capitalism’ (paralleling Communism’s ‘fall’ thirty years ago), so that the two wings of this manufactured and broadly controlled Hegelian Dialectic which has been at play since 1776 and 1789 can be pushed forward towards final ‘synthesis’ in global Multi-Culturalism, and the establishment of a long sought after world state/empire.

    [Not to worry, ‘true believers’ in Capitalism, as just as with Communism’s purported demise decades ago, there will still be gigantic chunks of Capitalism around, and probably (just as now) it will remain in the superior position vis-a-vis the remnants of Communism, the way it always has been. True believers in Communism will be allowed and encouraged to think they are responsible for Capitalism’s purported ‘fall’ as a consolation for thirty years ago.]

    3) Trump and Xi, as ultimately likely controlled opposition of each other, could very well be used to steer the US/UK and China/Russia into WWIII. The almost cartoon like insistence of Trump saying ‘Chinese flu’ of late could be a very small part of that at the moment, as is China’s recently suggesting the US military was behind the flu’s introduction in Wuhan. In any such war, as is now standard procedure, the US/UK would strive to have it at least appear that China/Russia struck the first blow. WWIII, with probable massive casualties possibly far out stripping the human losses of WWI and WWII, would work towards global depopulation. [See #1 above]

    4) A world war, one not going as well as initially expected, ie ‘badly’, combined with economic collapse, would in certain ways recreate conditions parallelling late 1917 Russia in the United States. This would further energize the already radicalized ‘Bernie Bros’ and much of the Democratic party, and may tempt them to seriously consider revolutionary action, ie a ‘Red October 2.0’ type of event to seize power, to be followed by a vicious Russian style ‘civil war’. This civil war would also work towards global depopulation. [See #1 above]

    No doubt this virus can be used for other purposes as well.

    As late in the day as it is, what can people do?

    As individuals (and groups) people can stop buying into this manufactured and contrived supposedly ‘progressive’ and ‘enlightened’ dialectic which has been at work between Capitalism and Communism the past two hundred plus years, and offer something better, to both yourself and others.

    It shouldn’t take much to have something a lot better, as this now centuries old hatred driven dialectical ‘cure’ which has been offered humanity, and now has the peoples of the world on the cusps of WWIII, is ‘worse than the disease’.

  219. DaveE says:
    @Alfred

    I agree. I’m an engineer also (electronics) and it took me a little longer to put it all together, but not by much. My comment was directed more at the goobers than the way-above-intelligence types like engineers. It’s taken them a little longer (maybe a LOT longer) but they’re onto the truth, these days.

    I have daily contact with a bunch of dirt-poor, uneducated white people and even they are totally onto the “coronavirus” hoax. They ain’t buying a word of it. Although they realize that a lot of the shortages and product hoarding is simply a poor man’s hedge fund, just in case the virus is an engineered pathogen and is “somewhat” a concern. Better prepared than not – and I can’t fault that logic.

    But panicked and hysterical they are definitely NOT.

    Hope you find this as heartening as I do.

  220. Thomasina says:
    @Ron Unz

    “So if American biowarfare analysts were considering a Coronavirus attack against China, isn’t it quite possible they would have said to themselves that since SARS never significantly leaked back into the US or Europe, we’d similarly remain insulated from the Coronavirus?”

    Yes, except they seemed to willingly let it in. After the outbreak in China was officially announced, planeload after planeload of potential virus carriers were landing in the U.S., U.K., Australia, Canada, and the E.U. countries every single day. I’m surprised there’s anybody left in China!

    Now, if it was an American biowarfare attack, and considering what I said above, it could be they developed the weapon to specifically target Chinese/Asian people. That might explain why they willingly let them fly in, because they already knew it wouldn’t do that much damage to the host population.

    SARS mainly attacked Chinese people. It would be interesting to know whether the people being affected in the U.S. and Canada, for instance, are mainly Asians.

  221. Sean says:

    There is a key point about coronavirus being spread by not yet obviously ill people that was made in Sean Carroll’s podcast with Tara Smith yesterday. She also said that SARS is completely different because the SARS virus is only shed from really sick people. So American bioweapons experts would also understand that, and not expect the late 2002 outbreak of SARS in China failing to spread all across the globe to be a guide to how a coronavirus epidemic would behave.

    • Replies: @SBaker
  222. @anon

    Did you say Dis-information officers? Captain Ilan Rabinovich wants to see you in his office right away.

    • Replies: @anon
  223. K. W. says:

    Dr. Barret, in your article you cite a study that you quote (incorrectly) as saying: Other sources claim “The spike glycoprotein of 2019-nCoV contains a cleavage absent in CoV – showing that it was engineered rather than evolved.” Indeed, the journal article itself does not claim that it must have been “engineered rather than evolved”. I’m agnostic on whether it was engineered or evolved, but would urge you to remove “engineered rather than evolved” at least from the hyperlinked part and leave it as normal text so that people do not mistakenly assume that the article itself openly claims this…

  224. Arnieus says:

    Blow back also serves a purpose.
    Whether or not blowback was foreseen it serves as a scapegoat for Trump. The media that lies about everything keep saying this will end Trump. I don’t think so. The great economy he pats himself on the back for is made of several trillion more dollars on our US credit card. Many prognosticators predicted the bubble could not sustain till election. Many didn’t want it to. Now the air is out of the bubble and Trump can avoid blame at least to his supporters.

    The shutdown is a massive power grab and anti-China propaganda. Governments of all sizes and shapes assume the authority to shut down the economy on every level. This is the 2×4 to the head to get the attention of main street. At the same time China gets the blame. It is so reminiscent of the 1930s when many diplomats like Joe Kennedy were highly concerned about the western media vilification of Germany and Japan. Sure enough events were manipulated to incite “the good war”.

    One thing is sure IMO. The virus did not come from a bat. Given the list of coinsidences of location and timing, just months after the Globalist Event 201 I lean toward it not being China’s fault. That is China’s opinion as well apparently. I for one don’t really want another good war.

    • Replies: @utu
  225. @Flubber

    Next time use quotation marks. Maybe even attribute.

  226. Sasha says:
    @9/11 Inside job

    Trudeau I consider to be the bumbling front-man, while the power behind the throne is the former FM and now current Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs. She is a close friend of George Soros, and was slated to be his official biographer. Not exactly comforting to me, but the vast majority of Canadians are incredibly ignorant and complacent. Will never venture outside of the Overton Window. Good piece concerning her right here. https://off-guardian.org/2017/09/29/canadian-fm-freeland-was-slated-to-be-george-soros-authorized-biographer/, and this alarming report – https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-trudeau-would-be-replaced-by-freeland-if-unable-to-perform-duties-amid/

  227. cranc says:
    @Ron Unz

    The data from Italy shows that 99.2% of deaths atrributed to Covid19 are actually deaths of people who already have serious diseases. We do not know if they died with Covid or from Covid.
    https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/
    This is data from the Italian National Health Institute, it is official government numbers.
    What will likely kill many more people than the virus are the actions of our governments, destroying the global economy and sending us over the edge into social breakdown due the ever growing lockdown.
    https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/

    • Replies: @Thomasina
  228. Why hysteria? My coronation has not yet come. Frewville Foodland has half-empty shelves, Unley Shopping Centre likewise, but I’m chubby enough to fast for a few weeks, and Hubby’s chubby, so who cares?

  229. DaveE says:
    @Ron Unz

    The economy was gonna tank anyway. When you have a “market” selling shares with P-E ratios of 100 or more, common, what other possibility is there?

    But “never let a good crisis go to waste” is the guiding M.O. of the zionists. Maybe they just gave it gentle “push” and that was all it took.

    I predict this is all just groundwork for something MUCH bigger in the near future. A little pain and suffering to get us ready, IOW.

  230. Anon[163] • Disclaimer says:

    Its deja vu, all over again.

    The factory idlings are to get Trump defeated. However I predict he will win, and then the elites will have him assasinated. The elites will stoop to anything folks.

  231. Shaman911 says:

    We are absolutely heading to war. And I suggest everyone read this! Freemasons don’t shit without it being astrologically correct.

    This Pandemic is a practice run for whats to come.

    https://graycrawford.net/2018/05/14/uranus-in-taurus/

    • Agree: 9/11 Inside job
  232. Wyatt says:
    @SethF1968

    The rest of the article does say it might not be true. I trust the Chinese to be malicious, duplicitous scumbags, but I don’t trust them to be competent with that. Given two scenarios:

    1. The Chinese are successfully engineering a bio-weapon that a careless scientist just happens to get into his rice during lunch or,
    2. The Chinese are trying to engineer a bio-weapon, doing a piss poor job of it and when it escapes from the lab, it has the propensity to mutate dangerously like it’s goddamn Resident Evil,

    I’ll pick the latter. The CCP is a litany of continuous fuckups that would have been handled decades ago if our own government wasn’t filled with self serving degenerates and tards.

    • Replies: @Nonny Mouse
    , @Anonymous
  233. anon[392] • Disclaimer says:

    Many thanks for your thought-provoking reply! If, M. Unz, by solid evidence you mean proof, that may be true for now. The bill of indictment took a long time to complete in the case of JFK and 9/11, but now the open-source evidence meets forensic standards, notwithstanding state secrecy, Section 202, the operational files exemption, the Intelligence Identities Protection Act, deference upon deference, the political questions doctrine, and all the other legal pretexts CIA has set up to obscure attribution of its crimes. The cases are open and shut but there’s no way to prosecute CIA here at home, by design. The last time somebody gave it a try (Church and Pike,) Don Gregg threatened martial law and that was that.

    This case is different because the whole world has a beef. CIA’s impunity setup don’t work so good offshore. The sovereign victims are already on the case.

    I’m not sure Americans would tear em apart if they found out. Americans are the most brainwashed population in the world. They make North Koreans look like Spinoza. The trick of equating America and the government is sunk in deep. They fall for it every time. The trick of confounding adverse information with foreign dictators works equally well on left and right. (We all saw the left blame Putin for the Queen of Mena’s 2016 party putsch because it failed.) CIA will never be made to pay without outside pressure. It’s a problem for the world. Good thing they’re on it.

    • Agree: FB
    • Replies: @Robert White
  234. Iva says:

    I wouldn’t worry about beeing calld “antisemite” , “this is the trick we always use ….” says former Israeli minister on Amy Godman show Democracy Now.

  235. Sparkon says:
    @Flubber

    When you fail to attribute a quotation, and fail to enclose it within quotation marks (or use the blockquote tag), it is plagiarism, irrespective of your intentions or ignorance, either one.

    According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, the verb “to plagiarize” means:

    “to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one’s own : use (another’s production) without crediting the source

    How To Avoid Plagiarism in Your Work:

    1 Cite your source
    When alluding to an idea or wording that’s not your own, add a citation in your writing that identifies the full name of the source, the date it was published, and any other citation element that’s required by the style guide you’re adhering to.

    2 Include quotations
    If you insert a source’s words into your writing, verbatim, one of the most simple yet obvious ways to avoid plagiarism is by using quotation marks around the text to denote that the words aren’t your own. A direct quote should also cite the source so that readers know who the quote is from.

    https://www.grammarly.com/blog/5-most-effective-methods-for-avoiding-plagiarism/

    (my bolds)

    I see you are having trouble with English in a number of ways, so perhaps it is not your first language. Please take the opportunity to learn from the experience, and improve your English.

  236. @Alfred

    Yes absolutely correct.

    I saw the planes hit that morning from desert suburbia AZ, then when they exploded (the language in the news was “collapsed” but it is clear from direct visual intuition that they went off something like “Roman candles”) I was like “no way! They fucking exploded!…”
    It was obvious to me at the time that they were rigged.” And yet, somehow I convinced myself in the following months that the buildings had collapsed. I convinced myself after careful study of the NYT that the buildings had suffered “progressive collapse”. Complete subservience of reason and sense to authority, and I was someone regarded as a renegade, maverick, free-thinker.
    By late 2002 my suspicions of the neo-cons had me thinking they’d cultivated and allowed the terror attack to go through in order to reap the benefits. I started hearing theories about controlled demolition at WTC and a missile at Pentagon I thought no way they would take the associated operational risk (of exposure and justice), plus the NYT had convinced to disregard my lying eyes… A few years later I realized my mistake, saw research and documentaries on the nano-thermite angle, WTC-7 etc…

    The moral of the story is how gullible and naive even a supposed high-iq independent thinker can be.

    And yeah, it’s amazingly obvious that those buildings exploded/burned (nano-thermite) like roman-candles.

    The other moral of the story is just how dishonorable — I think the term “cucked” is popular these days — a nation can be. Right in your face, and you do nothing, pretend you didn’t see it. All the conformists, people afraid of suffering for something.

    • Replies: @John Chuckman
    , @Alfred
  237. Hempus says:

    @ Kevin Barrett

    Thanks for this great article! I know you from the time when Ahmadinejad was president of Iran and when at Presstv was the possibility to leave comments. This changed with Rouhani but I followed your writings also at VT.

    I think this Covid-19 plot is especially designed to weaken China, but especially also because China is a supporter of Iran, Iraq, Syria..the main countries of the resistance against the greater Israel project.

    The first person in Iran who died of “covid-19” was an 83 year old man after (!) a covid-19 “quick test” was made.
    Covid-19 is probably all over the world and especially to find in old people homes where the inmates had recently a flu or those people with an acute flu.

    Coronaviruses mutate permanently. It seems Covid -19 is an old mutation because its common all over the world and people who have the antibodies actually dont need a vaccination to create exactly those antibodies.
    The special danger is when there is a mutation of this virus and you dont have the antibodies.

    This testing is nonsense!
    Those tests are even dangerous because the poor people who are tested positive are told that they have a deadly virus and this people tend to get in panic and fear, becomming breathlessness and eventually get an acute pneumonia fibrosis which leads sometimes to death.
    Pneumonia fibrosis is not caused by a virus but by wrong breathing habits and bad air and especially by panic breathing!

    Once more I like to give the link to Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg a German lung medical doctor who gives an excellent view into this insane virus hysteria.

    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/disease/dr-wolfgang-wodarg-confirms-this-is-an-insane-panic/

    I am a breathing therapist and worked on the front line also during the AIDS hysteria. Kevin Barrett, I know you have still excellent contacts to presstv and It would make me happy to help solving this nightmare in Iran.

  238. Pft says:

    Its seems to me there is a Chinese-American collaboration at work. Much of the apparent conflict is fake wrestling. Leaders of countries need external enemies to control their own citizens.

    If you look at the research thats been done on corona viruses gain of function and corona virus/ebola/zika virus vaccines you run into the same names a lot, Chinese scientists, American scientists, Wuhan , UNC, Duke all funded by DARPA, NSAID, NIH , chinese military, chinese cdc Bill Gates, etc, often in collaboration with each other. George Gao of China CDC attended Event 201.

    The goal is creation of Authoritarian states throughout the world modeled after China, as elaborated in Lock Step. Moving away from the Global Village concept, each region/country will duplicate the firewall China has built for internet to isolate its citizens from foreign ideas and internal censorship, although the elites and multinationals corporations and institutions will be united and interlocked. Travel between countries and foreign residence/immigration will become more difficult for the non-elite. Walls will be built to keep ordinary people in. Mandatory vaccinations and health care (medicare for all-appropriately rationed) . Digital ID, enhanced tracking/surveillance. Robots will replace illegal immigrant workers. Conditions will be ripe to implement the green economy, enforce a cashless society and ration energy consumption through 5G/IoT and smart meters, and universal income

    The economic crash like all crashes was planned. As Mnuchin said, they are great buying opportunities for the rich so as to accumulate more wealth at a discount (paper losses are future tax breaks). Former CDC director sold half her Merck Shares on jan 13 for 9.11 million. Bezos sold off billions of Amazon stock, etc. Maybe they knew what was coming.

  239. Mefobills says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    It may be a moot, to point fingers at this juncture.

    The models for replication are predicated on X transmission rate. Where X doesn’t assume there is part of the population that is naturally resistant.

    Also, the models don’t predicate for temperature and humidity. All of the hot spots are in a narrow band of temperature and humidity.

    Turkey is not reporting high levels of infection, while they are in that “zone” right now. They are probably lying.

    https://www.asbmb.org/asbmb-today/science/020620/could-an-old-malaria-drug-help-fight-the-new-coron

    If above study is right, an inexpensive pill can be sent to the hot spots.

  240. Thomasina says:
    @cranc

    “We do not know if they died with Covid or from Covid.”

    Excellent point! If they are purposely looking to get the numbers of dead up, then they died “from” Covid.

    The regular flu went through my uncle’s old-age home. Killed him and many others, just pushed them over the edge, with pneumonia, just like Corona has.

  241. Iva says:

    https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/2020-03-18/coronavirus-could-reshape-global-order…&#8230; some people say that we should take seriously what CFR’s magazine Foreign Affairs say in its articles. They give us clues what GFR’s globalists are planing for our world. Just as they set and ended communism in Central and Eastern Europe , they can end US hegemony in the world. If they will decide it is China’s tern to be in power, that it will be.

  242. This is a courageous, thought-provoking, article. It will take a while to piece this story together, but for now, this theory is at least as likely as the official explanation. If correct, this theory leads to a few interesting predictions. Among them:

    1. No member of high standing of the Deep State, e.g., Gates, the Rockefeller Clan, Netanyahoo, will die from this virus.
    2. Per capita, there will be less fatalities in Israel than anywhere else.

    I’m not sure Barrett pointed this out: The psychopaths in charge did not hesitate to slaughter some 3,000 Americans on 9/11, nor any number of European allies during Operation Gladio. Everyday, they have their police kill 3 Americans. They would be very willing, perhaps even glad, to sacrifice millions of Americans–or people of any nationality–to achieve their goals.

    As Barrett notes, the parallels to 9/11 are indeed striking.

  243. @A123

    Two German cabinet members commented angrily on this matter. Either they are lying or it’s the media sources you quote. And why was the American CEO of the company suddenly canned?

    • Replies: @A123
  244. SBaker says:
    @Just Passing Through

    Ouch. Antimuslim comments will raise the hair on a pig. Ever notice how the Muslims and the other Semites, the Jews led the impeachment/coup against Trump. These two groups were completely united together with the Semite controlled old media, and yet, commenters here call Trump their puppet.

    • Replies: @Nonny Mouse
  245. Other sources claim “The spike glycoprotein of 2019-nCoV contains a cleavage absent in CoV – showing that it was engineered rather than evolved.” Perhaps readers more familiar with the science than I am can arbitrate such disputes in the comments section.

    Yeah, I’ll ajudicate the “dispute,” you unspeakable dingus: the word “engineered” and the phrase “showing that it was engineered rather than evolved” are not in the paper, and the paper makes no assertion remotely like your misquotation. The paper merely notes how the virus differs from other CoV viruses.

    Unz review has really turned into something Alex Jones tier. Except with Steve Sailer and Whitney Webb.

  246. SBaker says:
    @Sean

    There is a key point about coronavirus being spread by not yet obviously ill people that was made in Sean Carroll’s podcast with Tara Smith yesterday. She also said that SARS is completely different because the SARS virus is only shed from really sick people. So American bioweapons experts would also understand that, and not expect the late 2002 outbreak of SARS in China failing to spread all across the globe to be a guide to how a coronavirus epidemic would behave.””

    Sean, the Wuhan corona is far more contagious than either the SARS or MERS corona viruses. People with the Wuhan shed large viral loads prior to the onset of disease and mild cases will never get tested.

    • Replies: @Sean
  247. Iris says:
    @Greg Bacon

    The Israeli masterminded 9/11 false flag has been almost consecrated–like the holocaust–and anyone who dares to question the official lies, stands to lose their jobs, stature and be endlessly vilified for asking historical questions. Punitive measures that Mr. Barrett has first-hand knowledge of.

    Good to remember that Dr Barrett is unambiguously proven to be right by the immutable laws of Physics and Engineering:

    – A September 2019 University of Alaska PhD thesis, using state-of-the-art civil engineering design software, proved that WTC7 could have only been destroyed by controlled demolition.

    – Due to the witnesses around, it would have been impossible to bring and install explosives into WTC7 during the time window after the collapse of the Twin Towers.

    – Hence the explosives used to blow up WTC7 were already in place before the alleged WTC “plane attack” onto the Twin Towers took place.

    – Hence the perpetrators are those who had control the WTC7 and were represented by Larry “Pull It” Silverstein.

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
  248. anon[414] • Disclaimer says:
    @ploni almoni

    So I wonder why they’re here so far away from their people? I’m not their people.

  249. Robjil says:

    This is a second 9-11.

    It is even using the same numbers to start the game.

    Purim this year was March 9-11.

    March 9th Queen Esther fast, March 10 Purim, March 11 Walled city ( Jerusalem is one) Purim

    The World Health Organization declared it a pandemic on the last day of Purim – walled city Purim – March 11, 2020. Ever since March 11, our MSM has been building up more and more hysteria about this disease. It is literally another nine eleven, same number game, promoted by our MSM.

    http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/03/deeply-concerned-who-declares-covid-19-pandemic

    Mar 11, 2020

    The World Health Organization (WHO) today declared COVID-19 a pandemic, pushing the threat beyond the global health emergency it had announced in January.

    • Agree: 9/11 Inside job
    • Replies: @AB_Anonymous
  250. @Sean

    I was not the one who said Barrett is held in such low regard by public opinion

    Come now, Sean … You did exactly this in your opening salvo.

    I suggested that as someone unknown under his own name you could step up and prevent WW3, but for the fact that your resume was far less impressive than Doctor Barrett’s.

    This would be quite humorous but for the fact that I haven’t bothered to advance any theories thus far.

    I just enjoy the hissing sound your posts make after we punch ’em with a thumbtack. A nice, short, sharp jab does the trick every time.

  251. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Commentator Mike

    You are velkum my frend 😎

    Regards, onebornfree

  252. S says:

    “And advanced forms of biological warfare that can ‘target’ specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool.” The Project for a New American Century, Rebuilding America’s Defenses (September 2000)

    That is interesting.

    I was aware of the PNAC report and it’s ‘Pearl Harbor’ comment, but had forgotten about the bio warfare statement.

    As a related aside, the very ‘progressive’ H G Well’s in the circa 1935 movie Things to Come has it that a future biological war will kill over half the world’s population. To humanity’s rescue (and I kid you not as to the script’s wording) will come a Mr John ‘Cabal’ representing the ‘new order’ with it’s ‘freemasonry of science’.

    Not to be outdone (I suppose) the also very ‘progressive’ Gene Roddenberry in 1968 had a Star Trek episode (See links below) whose plot revolves around a parallel Earth which in the distant past had a global biological war fought between Red China (Khoms) and the United States (Yangs). The Chinese are victorious and over run the planet, while meanwhile the shattered remnants of what had been the US is living out a stone age existance.


    Yang vs Kohm (‘Yank’ vs ‘Commie’)

    ‘The virus still exists.’

    MCCOY: The infection resembles one developed by Earth during their bacteriological warfare experiments in the 1990s. Hard to believe we were once foolish enough to play around with that…The virus still exists. Then over the years, nature built up these natural immunising agents in the food, the water, and the soil.

    http://www.chakoteya.net/StarTrek/54.htm

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/corona-will-kill-millions-crater-the-world-economy/#comment-3739964

  253. “Yet from the neocon perspective it needs some kind of war ASAP before China grows too strong.”

    That was the very reason Britain and France picked World War I with Germany. Germany was becoming and economic power house, and the Brits and the French resented it. So they had to slap Germany down before she became even stronger. It backfired on them until the U.S. came in and pulled the chestnuts out of the fire for them. Will anyone pull the chestnuts out of the fire for Uncle Sam? I doubt it.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  254. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Ron Unz

    Well, that would make perfect sense unless elements of the American national security establishment were criminal, crazy, and totally incompetent. However, they ARE criminal, crazy, and totally incompetent.

    Love the capitalization “ARE”. That’ll really convince the rubes. Soon, the debate will be reduced to the exchange of ’tis and ’tisn’t for all the substance of the Unzian thesis.

  255. Iris says:
    @Alfred

    I studied civil engineering 50 years ago. Maybe they no longer teach engineers the Laws of Motion of Isaac Newton. I don’t know. But the silence by the engineering profession has been deafening my ears ever since.

    There is an astounding number of Engineering and Physics pieces of evidence which prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Twin Towers were brought down by controlled demolition.

    But there is one fact which is so, so superior to any other evidence that it instantly destroys the “risible work of fiction” known as the 9/11 Commission report:

    – The WTC footprint radiated heat from the footprint of the demolished towers for about 4 months, recorded by satellite infrared cameras.
    – The amount of heat released was calculated, using the classic, centuries-old exponential heat decay equation for heat transfer by free convection.
    – A low estimate for the amount of heat realesed by the WTC was an astounding 10^15 Joules (one peta Joules).
    – This amount of heat is equivalent to the energy produced over a month by a 900 MW nuclear reactor.

    In other terms, the amount of heat released by the WTC after its collapse was so high that it was mandatorily of nuclear origin.

    This is what the American people and the rest of humankind are up against: a bunch of Zionist psychopaths deranged enough to use nuclear weapons in the heart of New York.

    • Agree: 9/11 Inside job
  256. @Wyatt

    So you’re saying these Chinese continuous fuckups ended decades ago if they could have been handled decades ago, but the US fuckups are intrinsic to
    their mad system of government, continue, can’t be handled, Bush will never be hanged for the naked aggression against Iraq? Is that what you mean?

    • Replies: @JamesinNM
  257. A123 says:
    @St-Germain

    Two German cabinet members commented angrily on this matter

    German cabinet ministers under Mutti Mullah Merkel who serves George Soros and elite Globalsm.

    Everyone should be 99.99%+ sure that Team Soros/Germany is lying.

    PEACE 😷

    • Agree: JamesinNM
    • Replies: @refl
  258. @Ron Unz

  259. @Delta G

    “But you can’t have someone clever enough to create a Recombinant Designer Pathogen and be in the US Military. ”

    Does not preclude such a person, clever and psychopathic, working as a civilian for the military or intelligence.

    I believe the focus on Who, should include those who operate above the national governments. The type of individuals who have no allegiance, except to other elite families and largely to profiting, without regard for human concerns.

    Hence, the focus is on whether the USA or China, or a third nation, did it, is a deliberate “look over there” misdirection.

    The 9/11 equivalent would be the 9/11 families continuing to focus on suing the Saudi government as the responsible party. No planes, no Saudis. What we do have is “five dancing Israelis” and “Israeli art students running wires for an art project”, along with Larry Silverstein’s “Pull It!”.

    The US Dollar is overdue for its demise.
    The Petrodollar was just extending the inevitable reckoning.

    We may be nearing the flash point of the French Revolution, the moment when the French Treasury was discovered to be empty. USA is $23T in the hole and coincidentally the Department of Perpetual War cannot account for $22T.

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
  260. JamesinNM says:

    Definitely another inside job. Fear and hate dominate, and the is no room left for truth.

  261. Crazy Horse says: • Website
    @Kim

    Riiiight as if the terror trilogy of the IMF, WB and IBS isn’t “a debt trap for all of those impoverished nations”. I could be wrong but I think that your concern is that the Anglo-American-Zionist Alliance which is more like SPECTRE than anything else is losing global domination.

  262. JamesinNM says:
    @Nonny Mouse

    At the final judgement all evil will suffer the second death and burn for eternity. Matthew 10 28And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

  263. @FB

    I, too, have been disappointed in Tucker Carlson’s China bashing. I have thought that he was the best on FOX News, but now he is getting to be as bad as Sean Hannity.

    We may never know the origin of the coronavirus. It is foolish to try and assign blame at this point.

    • Replies: @FB
  264. @Sean

    Defending one outstanding false-flag with another – how ingenious !
    Just like using (if I’m not mistaken, habitually with some variations) logical
    chains based on : “if you’re not utterly destroyed (one way or another),
    you just can’t be the one telling the truth”.
    This is a mob logic, but you probably have to wait for a few more high caliber false-flags
    to be swallowed by the millions world-wide before it becomes absolutely legit.

  265. hetro says:
    @ΑΖ

    Do we have a price yet on how much it will cost to get vaccinated? As with in six weeks more time, after a second three week sheltering spell, so we’re all ready to get back out on the streets and into the pubs as long as we’re vaccinated, you see. Having been scared the black plague is waiting at the door all this time, we’ll rush to the vaccination markets? Hundred fifty a shot maybe?

  266. utu says:
    @Anonymous

    Not the first time for Sean. He made similar innuendos towards Ron Unz, iirc.

    • Agree: Ron Unz
  267. If anyone is interested in why the elites created the coronavirus, go to davidicke.com and watch his interview by london real, it is 2 hours of brutal truth.

  268. @Just Passing Through

    Do you really have so little knowledge that you dont know the difference btween a wahabi takfir and a muslim?

    • Replies: @Alfred
  269. @9/11 Inside job

    So, you read Winterwatch too. I think that Russ checks in here sometimes. I’ve been reading his crime archives lately. There are some really interesting articles on unsolved and memory holed crimes there.

  270. @SBaker

    The Jews aren’t Semites. They’re unrelated to the ancient Hebrews, who became the Palestinians. And the Iranians and Afghans and Malays aren’t Semites. You sound pretty clueless, SBaker.

    Okay, the Jews insist they are Semites, but everything about them is fraud.

  271. Anon[144] • Disclaimer says:
    @Been_there_done_that

    virtually nobody in alternative media believes the official story purporting that the virus evolved naturally from animals.

    “b” of moon of alabama.

    B is trying to “flatten the curve” of comprehending how fast our liberties are “vanishing” (according to the New York Times). At least he won’t be fining offending “bar flies” 13,000 something something.

    New York Times is right. It will “vanish”. “Our way of life”. Because our reality is in fact manufactured, including our “alternative” reality.

  272. @follyofwar

    Well, as the Cheyenne used to say, “It’s a good day to die”. If the ones who think they can rule over others push it too far,” then the the sun will shine upon a good day to die”. I remember that line from the novel “Little Big Man”.

    It used to be part of the American ethos, the idea that it’s better to die on your feet than to live on your knees. Levon Helm wrote a line in a song in the ’80s: “You give your life to live your life”. Some of us still see it that way.

  273. EdNguyen says:
    @dimples

    A good many of those in the loop on an operation like this also have the skills and opportunity to make a great fortune on a 1929, or worse, financial catastrophe. Don’t assume that blowback isn’t anticipated or even welcome.

  274. Ron Unz says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Whoa! CA Gov. Newsom says that 25M Californians are expected to get infected within an eight week period…

    Apparently, that figure may have been the projection prior to the statewide lockdown he declared earlier this week. At least I really, *really* hope that’s not what the experts think will still happen after the lockdown.

    25M California infections over a couple of months would totally collapse the health care system, and probably result in at least a million deaths. In California alone. Over just a few weeks. Projecting that out, we’d be talking about something like 10M dead Americans.

    Suppose it did turn out that this was all unintended blowback from some “clever ploy” by the Deep State Neocons to take China (and Iran) down a notch or two. Can anyone imagine what people would do to them?…

  275. @AnonFromBeijing

    It’s noticed that some rich Jews today live in China are very active in media and entertainment.

    Wait until they get involved in [Chinese] politics and you’re in for a hoot and a 1/2…

    Some people see China as the US of Asia. May you fare better and be spared where we are now.

  276. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:

    It seems the so-called National Bolsheviks, Third Positionists, Strasserites were visionaries. Everything wrong with the world today is a result of Jewish finance capitalism and degenerate post-modern liberalism.

  277. A123 says:
    @Ron Unz

    Suppose it did turn out that this was all unintended blowback from some “clever ploy” by the Deep State Neocons to take China (and Iran) down a notch or two. Can anyone imagine what people would do to them?…

    If the NeoConDemocrats did this in an attempt to overthrow the Constitution, it would guarantee GOP majority until the end of time.

    The Globalist Left is certainly unhinged… However risking a total forces CHINA-US nuclear war?

    Hillary prefers the (im)plausible deniability of eliminating individuals… a defenseless ambassador or prisoner or lawyer or reporter.

    PEACE 😷

  278. hetro says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    That would be something like 20 million Californians. Note also predictions from guests (John Ross, for one) on Sputnik Loud and Clear Radio (Tuesday and Wednesday of this week) 2 million will die in the US by June of this year.

    Now 2 mill figures out to about 10% of those getting infected will die (according to Newsome), which is contradicted by various studies (some mentioned in this thread), including that 15% of elderlies will die (or maybe it’s only 8% and particularly those with pre-existing conditions); 5% of people in their 50’s; and .02% of children.

    In short Gavin Newsom is being irresponsible with this kind of talk, but now we know why the drastic shutdown has taken place in Northern California, no doubt following his alarmist lead.

    We drastically need scientific studies particularizing vs generalizing the dangers as to which people, how, what, why, under what conditions/circumstances, instead of the hysterical over-reaction now underway by our “leaders.”

    Check out the following from this thread (sorry to those who posted the following if I don’t mention you, and thank you very much for guiding me to them):

    Swiss study

    https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/

    In German, but worth pursuing the translation:

    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/disease/dr-wolfgang-wodarg-confirms-this-is-an-insane-panic/

  279. @Franklin Ryckaert

    Avoidable mortality expert Gideon Polya breaks down the 9/11-triggered 27 million Muslim Holocaust: https://www.patreon.com/posts/gideon-polya-on-14190770

    Since Muslims are not as insane as Jews, you can claim the real figure is actually only 26.9 without fear of imprisonment.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  280. utu says:
    @Arnieus

    Thanks, good comment.

  281. Thomasina says:

    Kevin Barrett – excellent article!

    There are so many scenarios. I haven’t read all of the comments, so what I’m about to say may already have been touched on.

    1. The virus happened naturally, transferred from a bat and eventually to humans.

    2. The virus accidentally escaped the Wuhan lab.

    3. The globalists did it. The globalists (the Chinese elite in concert with the U.S. multinational corporate elite) don’t want things to change as both groups of elites are getting filthy rich off of the offshoring of jobs to China.

    Trump is a nationalist. He is upsetting their apple cart as he’s placing tariffs on the goods manufactured in China by the U.S. multinational corporations, trying to force the U.S. multinationals to come back home. They don’t want to, so they manufactured the virus thinking it would bring down the economy/stock market, thereby bringing down Trump.

    China plays along, feigns ignorance, and accuses the U.S. of trying to infect their citizens, Xi wears a mask. A few thousand old people dying is a small price to pay, in their minds.

    4. The U.S. multinational corporate elite did it alone, without China’s knowledge, for the same reasons as stated in #3, to throw a wrench in the works, purposely sink the economy. With Trump gone, globalism could continue.

    5. The U.S. did it alone, without China’s knowledge. The U.S. globalists realize globalism is ending and they have acquiesced to the U.S. nationalists. They are angry that China has not followed through with their part of the original deal, which is that China gets the offshored jobs, their elite get rich, and they get money to modernize, but she must open up more to the U.S. corporations and financial firms, which she has been reluctant to do.

    6. The nationalists did it in order to bring down globalism, put an end to it once and for all. Once people realize that supply lines (especially pharmaceuticals) thousands of miles away is a recipe for disaster, they’ll scream for things to be changed. Trump has said he likes President Xi and the Chinese people, this is nothing personal, but he wants the jobs to return.

    7. China did it alone. The Chinese elite realize that globalism is ending, and they know the Chinese citizens will blame them for the loss of their jobs. The Chinese elite worry that the citizens will wonder why they’ve become filthy rich and they haven’t. The Chinese elite plant the virus, but blame it on the U.S.

    8. The world elites, in collusion with the central banks, have blown massive financial bubbles.
    They realize they can’t continue blowing the bubbles any bigger, but they don’t see any way out without being blamed. They plant the virus in order to bring down the world economy, deflate the bubble. The virus takes the blame, not them. China blames the U.S., the U.S. blames China, some old people are sacrificed, and they raise a glass to the devil.

    I’m leaning towards #8.

    • Replies: @Miro23
    , @Kim
  282. @Ron Unz

    Suppose it did turn out that this was all unintended blowback from some “clever ploy” by the Deep State Neocons to take China (and Iran) down a notch or two. Can anyone imagine what people would do to them?…

    I would hope that people would treat such individuals with compassion. Recognize that we all make mistakes. Their plans for these microbes never involved the suffering and death of millions of innocent people and simply got out of control. Certainly a stern letter of admonishment should be added to their files. But their names should not be made public.

    • LOL: SafeNow
    • Replies: @Just another serf
  283. Agent76 says:

    Mar 19, 2020 Corona crazy, strengthen your immune system

    With between 90 to 99 percent of people who get this Corona virus recover , this virus panic will pass, the loss of freedoms will continue, strengthen you immune system.

    04/16/2010 100 Years of US Medical Fascism

    One hundred years ago today, on April 16, 1910, Henry Pritchett, president of the Carnegie Foundation, put the finishing touches on the Flexner Report. No other document would have such a profound effect on American medicine, starting it on its path to destruction up to and beyond the recently passed (and laughably titled) Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010 (PPACA), a.k.a., “Obamacare.” Flexner can only be accurately understood in the context of what led up to it.

    https://mises.org/library/100-years-us-medical-fascism

    • Agree: Desert Fox
    • Replies: @aandrews
  284. Iris says:
    @Ron Unz

    This study from respected epidemiologists at Imperial College London has forecast death rates for various scenarios of suppression and mitigation measures relating to the Covid-19 pandemic.

    While there are far too many parameters at play to reach figures with reasonable certainty, they have calculated that doing nothing to mitigate the pandemic would result in 81% of the US and UK population being infected after a course of 3 months of spreading epidemic, resulting in “only” 2.2 million and 0.5 million deaths respectively.

    The non-linear relation is due to the US’ larger geographic scale.

    https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf

    I guess that the fascist NeoCons won’t be too concerned killing “only” 2,2 million Americans, considering how many are already being genocided with drugs.

    • Replies: @Zita
  285. @Ron Unz

    Unintended blowback?

    ATMs are cranking out crisp new Steve Mnuchin $20 paper.

    A lot of planning went into these “unintended” events, and yes, I believe some influencers have enough hate in them, that they’ve been nursing as well as gaming for years, that a trigger was aimed and pulled deliberately, not accidentally.

    Kevin Barrett wrote a pretty good essay, but I would not have used the term/concept Black Swan.

    Suppose it did turn out that this was . . . some “clever ploy” by the Deep State Neocons to take China (and Iran) down a notch or two. Can anyone imagine what people would do to them?…

    What would they do, Ron? Write a stern letter to their congressman?
    Vote for Biden instead of Trump?
    Hang Mark Dubowitz in effigy and get tossed in jail for it?

    This Forum is the only place I know that people even write about, um, redressing certain injustices. I’m one of your biggest fans so no disrespect, but where has that gotten us?

    • Replies: @Iris
  286. @JohnnyWalker123

    I believe that Gavin Newsom is another 33rd degree mason whose fingerprints seem to be all over this “faux pandemic ‘/psyop or a “hoax ” according to Trump(Knights Templar/Scottish Rite freemason ?)
    see: “Coronavirus Hoax World Tour hits California -Gavin Newsom 33 Masonic hoax!” bitchute.com
    President John Quincy Adams warned Americans about the secret oaths of the Freemasons but his warnings have been forgotten.

  287. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wyatt

    Looks like somebody’s really forgetting the Korean (direct mano-a-mano), Indo-China (proxy fight) and Vietnam Wars (proxy fight) in which the “West” attempted to handle the “CCP fuckups”.

    They were starving and dirt-poor back then, so it should have been a piece of cake, each time.

    And Every.Single.Time, the result was bloody failure, and humiliation.

    And today’s China isn’t the China of the 1960s, or of our younger years, or even of 10 years ago – oh hell no. Kinda makes one THINK, eh?

  288. @FB

    ‘Highly intelligent’ folks can also think in terms of “both…and” instead of only “either…or”. White entrepreneurs can desire more cheap labor out of irresponsible greed, while at the same time Jews can promote mass non-White immigration out of hatred for Whites. You see Jews in politics and media do just that, while selfish White entrepreneurs welcome it. The Jewish problem is always a problem of Jewish destructive behavior in cooperation with immorality of some Gentiles.

    • Replies: @FB
  289. Tor597 says:
    @Ron Unz

    Too many Americans are stuck on Pax Americana la la land and will never admit something so grave to American status. We saw exactly this during 9/11.

  290. SafeNow says:
    @Ron Unz

    It was just yesterday (Wednesday) that Newsom said his “modeling” predicts 56% of Californians will be infected. Thus, it was said WITH distancing already in effect. Newsom wants the hospital ship Mercy to be moored in LA.; his 56% was probably a sales pitch to influence the mooring-location decision. BTW, speaking of the hospital ship, the number-of-beds figure being given is fallacious. I looked at images of the wards of the Mercy, and the patients are packed together. Images of coronavirus wards in hospitals show a wide spacing of patients.

  291. Iris says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    This Forum is the only place I know that people even write about, um, redressing certain injustices. I’m one of your biggest fans so no disrespect, but where has that gotten us?

    Then the blowback will come from outside the US, Solonto.

    I don’t know whether you realise how the rest of the world is feeling at the moment: people are stunned as if the Apocalypse has come. They are worried about their very survival, and things are only going to get worse because the containment, lockdown, military special powers will likely extend for weeks and months ahead, as it will take months to gain control over the epidemic.

    The Chinese have officially accused the US to have, at a minimum, covered up early Covid-19 infections that took place in America several weeks before the epidemic broke out in Wuhan.

    Separate Japanese and Taiwanese epidemiologists have previously determined that only the US had the five strains of Coronavirus that could have generated the Covid-19:

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/covid-19-further-evidence-virus-originated-us/5706078

    The Chinese have scientists, military might and a powerful voice in the concert of nations.
    They are respected and credible, because they respect others’ sovereignty and help in time of crisis.
    They won’t passively stand accused of a crime committed by the US Zionist NeoCons, and for which the whole world will soon want to hold somebody accountable for.

  292. Richard B says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    Does anyone ever really win a trade war?

    I don’t mean Argentina vs China, or anything like that.

    I mean where both sides have a lot of money, or power, or both.

    Today’s coronavirus black swan, like 9/11, has all the characteristics of a trauma-based mass-mind-control op.

    Not only do I agree, but I think it’s so obvious that it’s exasperating that, after all we’ve been through, it even needs to be pointed out. But it does.

    It has already been used to demonize China in the same way 9/11 was used to demonize Islam: Just as we were supposed to hate the crazy suicidal Muslims yearning for harems of afterlife virgins, we are now supposed to feel disgust for Chinese slurpers of bat soup.

    Here I respectfully disagree.

    What Jewish Supremacy Inc. did after September 11th was,

    1. Blame Islam
    2. Shame Americans* for Blaming Islam

    A better example of control through crazy-making would be impossible to imagine.

    And it’s exactly what they’re doing now.

    1. Blame China
    2. Shame Americans for Blaming China

    *or anyone else who refused or refuses to bow before the alter of Politically Correct Identity Politics (two tools essential to Full Spectrum Dominance).

    As we have already seen, the consequences are immense.

    Because if that kind of crazy-making is effective it’s totally demoralizing. As learned helplessness sets in people won’t even defend themselves. As happened in Italy, and not just Italy.

    But there are other discernible patterns well worth pointing out.

    1. Destroy The Evidence
    2. Control The Narrative
    3. Enforce The Law (on anyone looking for evidence to question the narrative)

    Victimize – Blame Victim – Play Victim

    Demonize Dissent and Pathologize Opposition

    And all ending in what I’ve come to call the Supremacist Waltz

    What makes a supremacist is not just making claims (“Our Superiority Is Absolute”, or “We are the Chosen”) or demands. No. It’s that they have the power to effectuate the demands that support their claims.

    And what are the demands they have the power to effectuate?

    1. to be placed above criticism
    2. loved unconditionally
    3. blindly obeyed

    It’s The Rule of Man over The Rule of Law

    It’s a Culture of Blind Obedience over a Culture of Individual Conscience

    It’s Tyranny over Freedom

    Hence The Great Replacement, accompanied by chants and taunts like “We Will Replace You!”

    In other words, Full Spectrum Dominance.

    But, there’s a snake in this garden.

    The kind of power they’re interested in is fundamentally destablizing.

    All top down authoritarian power destablizes social-institutions.

    From the point of view of cultural history this is exactly why cultures emerged in the Western world that promoted democratic forms of governance. Because authoritarians cultures are ultimately so extraordinarily destructive and unsustainable. Like this one is. Isn’t it obvious?

    And, from the point of view of the bottom line, prolonged and profound social instability disrupts and even halts economic activity.

    When that happens there’s no alternative.

    This is why civilization itself was created. Because any civilization’s primary objective is and must be the circumnavigation of the use of force.

    This is why what we’re really witnessing is nothing less than

    The Pyrrhic Victory of Jewish Supremacy Inc.

    Because JSI’s rise to power has been in direct proportion to the collapse of the very social-institutions that power controls. Pride Before The Fall, indeed.

    And the reason is easy to see and devoid of any complexity or glamour.

    JSI is no good at social-management.

    And make no mistake about it, social-management is at its core an adaptational strategy, as are our social-institutions.

    So, if we blow this, we’re in no position to laugh at the dinosaurs for getting themselves extinct.

    After all, they lasted a lot longer than we have so far.

    Assuming the human race has a chance (in itself rather doubtful) perhaps its time to turn their words against them and say,

    Treason Against Jewish Supremacy Inc. Is Loyalty To Humanity

    Do we really need to ask them for permission to care about our children’s future?

    • Thanks: Alfred
    • Replies: @anon
  293. @Kevin Barrett

    Gideon Polya seems to be an “expert” in extreme exaggeration. From your link :

    “… In 2013, he published, “American Holocaust, Millions Of Untimely American Deaths And $40 Trillion Cost Of Israel To Americans,”[2] and tallied $30 trillion based on “A $125 trillion cost associated with 15.6 million preventable American deaths since September 2001, of which about $30 trillion can be attributed to US fiscal perversion supporting Apartheid Israel…”

    $30 trillion of costs to Israel, 15,6 millions of dead Americans…he deserves the Nobel price for exaggeration!

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  294. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @Minnesota Mary

    “Yet from the neocon perspective it needs some kind of war ASAP before China grows too strong.”

    Will anyone pull the chestnuts out of the fire for Uncle Sam? I doubt it.

    If we attacked first, if WE essentially commit a Pearl Harbor-style aggression against a competitor (a competitor, not an enemy – very big difference), we would deserve to lose.

    Maybe the “Other-Dimensional/Space-Time/Genetic/Nano-tech/Robotic/AI/Alien/angels/gods/Spirit-Beings/from The Future” (whew – that’s a mouthful) will save us.

    Either that, or . . . we lose.

  295. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @Richard B

    I disagree. Jews are fanning anti-Asian sentiment as a scapegoat for economic collapse, virus, all the bullshit they created. Asians receive zero protection in this system, it’s only reserved for the right minorities. It’s a shame the so-called Holocaust never happened, I might have had some beautiful lampshades by now.

  296. @Flubber

    I wonder if Trump would have the courage to call Covid-19 a Jewish virus, had it originated from Israel.

    • Agree: Tor597
    • Replies: @Trinity
  297. E_Perez says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    “For the first time in my life, not only did I truly understand our history, but even the very current events transpiring before my eyes.
    And that’s how I became a Nazi.”
    😉

    Dont worry, nobody cannot avoid becoming a “Nazi” once he understands our history and sees the current events. The Germans were the only white tribe warning what was in store for us.

    Franklin himself would be a Nazi, if these evil Germans had not entered his beloved Holland.
    😉

  298. FB says: • Website
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    There may be ‘both’ instead of ‘either’…but there is also the word ‘mostly’…which is what applies here…

    John McCain used to go around saying that Americans wouldn’t do farm labor if you paid them fifty bucks an hour…as if that is somehow obscene rather than a good living wage, so naturally Mexicans need to be imported to do that work…even Trump recently said recently that we need more legal immigrants because we have too many jobs…

    And this in a country where a King Bezos gets tens of millions in tax ‘holidays’ from states and municipalities falling over each other to host the King’s new HQ, as he flees from Seattle to avoid paying taxes…[I guess the folks punching a clock at Boeing should pick up the tab for schools, roads and everything else that the King’s Amazon employees use…?]

    But nobody says boo about that…nor any of the other plutocrats paying no taxes…[even Warren Buffet has said it has gone too far, noting that he pays less tax than his secretary…]

    Fact is it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to realize that mass immigration is simply the other half of offshoring of factories…they are both part and parcel of labor arbitrage and the larger agenda of beggaring ordinary folks…

    There has been a concerted effort to wipe out the middle class for the last forty years now…when are these ‘highly intelligent’ American sheeple going to wake up…?

    The Chinese people’s living standard is going nowhere but up, while Americans are headed for the toilet…all of this is mostly due to capitalism, and the idiotic support for this wretched system by fools who don’t understand what’s good or bad for them…

    I suggest you watch the Noam Chomsky doc I posted…today industry is ten percent of the economy, while banking is 30…union membership has gone from 30 to practically nothing…why did this happen…?

    Nothing happens without a cause, and the cause is that the plutocracy and oligarchy decided in the 1970s to start rolling back the freedoms and standard of living that the people had gained under the New Deal…starting with getting rid of Nixon, who was in fact the last New Deal president and brought a lot of good things into being…

    We can vividly see that timeline here, showing the share of the richest 0.1 percent of total wealth, over the last 100 years…

    • Agree: Mefobills
  299. @DaveE

    Dave, I agree with everything except the combat boots thing. That’s why I didn’t just use an agree tag.

  300. @SaneClownPosse

    I believe the focus on Who, should include those who operate above the national governments.

    As someone one famously said, “It doesn’t matter who hires the assassin. Focus on who pays for the bullets.”

    To remain objective and informed is quite a daunting task lately, but not something one should think lightly of or entertain thoughts of giving up altogether. There’s only one way: forward.

  301. @Trinity

    See…that’s why jews like that guy don’t go into beer joints in the south. In a beer joint, the method of debate is different from what they have on TV talk shows. About the time the guy started his spiel, he’d get KTFO or at least hit from three different directions at once.

    Southerners don’t play that shit in their own beer joints. The rule is that someone saying something snotty is fair game for punching. It sounds uncivilized, but it does tend to keep a conversation more civil.

  302. @9/11 Inside job

    Fortunately for the Privately owned FED , the United States Treasury Department (and its Bureau of Printing and Engraving) still has printing presses , ink and paper .

    And… it lends the money, so, in the end, we, the ‘footing-the-bill‘ suckers pay for it anyway. Like you say, it can’t be emphasized enough Privately owned FED should be mutually exclusive [of course it isn’t]. What a swindle. When will it end and who’s going to end it?

    • Agree: Desert Fox
  303. aandrews says:
    @Agent76

    “This too shall pass” is actually my overall take on this thing.

  304. @SBaker

    “It’s beyond dispute that the novel coronavirus officially known as COVID-19originated in Wuhan, China.”

    No, it’s being disputed every day. That “beyond dispute” phrase is what retards like Mike Pompeo use to try to shut down a discussion in which he’s getting his fat ass kicked.

    “The degree of hypocrisy and divisiveness displayed by the MSM at a time of national crisis is simply unacceptable.”

    Now, I’ll bet you a beer that you stole that idiotic line from somebody like Sean Hannity. Look, S, the MSM created this fake ‘national crisis’. Without the MSM, there would be no crisis.

    I hope somebody pulls that flagstaff out of your butt for you. It’s making you say the most ridiculous things.

  305. Trinity says:
    @Justsaying

    haha. EXCELLENT QUESTION. Answer: HELL NO. But then again not a single damn POTUS in the last 100 years would have the sack to say it. One poster called it the “Jew Flu” which is hilarious.

    Didn’t we have the Spanish Flu and the Ebola Virus? How about poor Lou Gehrig, they named a whole disease after one man. haha. ( stole those examples from the David Duke radio show at DavidDuke.com. Git-r-Done.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  306. @Kim

    Nonsense. They can frack. You can frack almost anywhere.

    • Replies: @Kim
    , @Beefcake the Mighty
  307. Milton says:

    Well, here in PA, the Governor has ordered the shutdown of all non-life-sustaining businesses, and he intends to enforce it with the State Police and other agencies starting Saturday. He said the enforcement will last “indefiintely.” This is like something out of a bad horror movie: https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/03/all-non-life-sustaining-businesses-in-pa-must-close-gov-wolf.html

  308. FB says: • Website
    @Minnesota Mary

    We may never know the origin of the coronavirus. It is foolish to try and assign blame at this point.

    Exactly…but that is exactly the first reaction of a lot of dumb people…blame China…even though it is now clear that they have done an absolutely remarkable job in containing this, whatever its source…

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  309. @Delta G

    First of all, why couldn’t they just have released a naturally occurring virus as a bioweapon?

    But more importantly, out of all the people who have died in Italy, only two did not have serious other diseases, heart problems and cancer, that was killing them anyway. I think that there is something fishy going on here.

    https://personalliberty.com/corona-bologna-italy-the-truth-begins-to-leak-out/

  310. Chinaman says:

    Thank you, Kevin. It took me awhile to connect the dots but I Arrived at the same conclusion,

    This is a false flag pearl harbour will be used to turn public opinion against China and galvanised the country for war. Same formula Of USS liberty, 911 and WMDs still works On gullible Americans.

    It unleashed the latent racism that most Americans harbour against Chinese. Just as with what we saw with Chinatown, People will stop buying Chinese goods globally which will trigger a global depression.

    I have to say whoever came up with this is brilliant. the onslaught of Asymmetric warfare using trade war, Hong Kong and now coronavirus is probably too much for China to handle .

    next step is internment of Chinese Americans and arbitrary detainment of Chinese working un America.

    Then America is ready.

  311. Zita says:
    @Iris

    ATMs are cranking out crisp new Steve Mnuchin $20 paper.

    A lot of planning went into these “unintended” events

    I agree. “Governments … fabricate fear to secure a political end …

    “Political ends are always about greater control, corruption, and ultimately, cover ups.

    “A $5 trillion financial bailout?

    “The bailout began in early September 2019.

    “That is, it has nothing to do with the virus.

    “The largest financial bailout in the history of the world and nobody knows it happened because the focus is on a virus.”

    “The Fed just quietly approved $5 trillion to bail out the repo market (essentially to cover the massive leverage (borrowing) built up by banks and hedge funds, again).

    “That is equivalent to $40,000 to every American household. And it went unnoticed by 99% of America.

    “Covid is the perfect cover for the greatest financial collapse in history.

    “The policymakers are getting a pass. This is perhaps the greatest con of all time.”

    ”In 2003, 18,000 Italians died as the result of a heatwave.

    In 2020, 3,000 Italians have died ‘as the result of the Coronavirus’.

    99% of the patients killed by coronavirus in Italy had existing illnesses.

    Today, Italy’s emergency measures are killing off Italy’s multitude of small, family run businesses.

    Who gains?”

    From: http://aanirfan.blogspot.com/

    What a luck… I’m the 319th comment.

  312. KA says:

    The Israel-lobby propaganda site The Algemeiner recently published “

    Mein Kampf has been replaced by this ex vivo Israeli thought production machine- Algemeiner

  313. Tony Hall says:
    @follyofwar

    @follyofwar

    Good for you, follyofwar, for looking at the heaping of deleterious consequences on young people with classes over, sports programs halted, diminished restaurant jobs and summer tourism jobs etc etc. I applaud you for bringing this aspect of your generational assessment forward.

    Then you go on to write

    Really, is this another case of greedy inconsiderate boomers worried more for their lives than the lives of our suffering youth? We are the worst generation in history, sucking up all the resources for ourselves. I wish that millenials would get smart and start rebelling in the streets.

    OK Boomer. Has some kind of committee of boomers been consulted to give the green light to penalize younger folk disproportionately? I don’t think so. The decisions are being made very rapidly often in militarized/national security/banking elite environments. Suddenly we have plenty more to try to resist in terms of what our rulers seem already to be trying to force on us. Imagine the scene when the vaccination police show up in your town. And that’s just for starters.

    The reality for many boomers outside the nascent Coronavirus security, police and media establishment is that just when get to the retirement stage…. whoops, all the savings just disappeared and the pension funds are stripped… with less to pass on to our descendants. Is it OK to point out in this context that boomers, even white male boomers, are people too?

    Kevin Barrett is a younger boomer whose dedication to speaking about the truth as he sees it has cost him a lot in terms of disposable income and his supposed white male privilege. He hasn’t been sucking up a disproportionately large share of resources. Dr. Barrett perseveres largely through alms generated on the increasingly imperilled margins of the increasingly tyrannized Internet. This essay is a classic display of Dr. Barrett’s outspoken verve in bringing together a potent mix of ideas in a really bold, original, succinct and intelligently subversive way. We would be much poorer without his insistent voice. Dr. Barrett has captured a unique moment in history in a genuinely historic way.

    • Agree: Cyndy
    • Replies: @follyofwar
  314. @Just another serf

    And let me add, we should also remember to offer compassion to Senator Richard Burr

    https://www.propublica.org/article/senator-dumped-up-to-1-6-million-of-stock-after-reassuring-public-about-coronavirus-preparedness

    Along with Senator Kelly Loeffler

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/sen-kelly-loeffler-dumped-millions-in-stock-after-coronavirus-briefing

    Both of whom love the little people they serve.

    This is obviously the very tip of an unimaginably large iceberg of corruption and self interest. Democracy is a beautiful thing.

  315. KA says:
    @SBaker

    • Agree: steinbergfeldwitzcohen”

    Don’t agree . He is wrong . Very wrong

    . By the way how did Singapore in January handle the viral load coming out of China with 6 million people ,800 Sq Km in size marooned inside another landmass ?

  316. refl says:
    @Aqualung

    China/Iran weaponized common flu simply by putting on a great show. Shuttering cities, building hospitals at lightning pace, imposing draconian travel bans and leaking questionable videos.

    Exactly, and at least with China it is more then obvious. Europeans have to compete with Chinese-level intrusion into their civil liberties – and they keep begging for more! If I was Chinese, I would be laughing my ass off behind my east asian composed smile. They must be loving it! To give Europeans advice how best to lock up their people!

    Next thing they will send their battleships up the Thames, set Westminster on fire and bully the Queen into signing a treaty to forcefeed Chinese made drugs to all of Europe.

    • Replies: @Aqualung
    , @Chinaman
  317. @Flubber

    “Whether this will or can be addressed is more fundamental than anything else.”

    Addressing that issue will require questioning democracy as a form of government. Are Americans ready to do that yet?

  318. refl says:
    @A123

    I have not read the story about Trump and the German-developed vacine.

    It simply suppose that it will take quite some time to get that done, if there should be a virus to need being dealt with at all.

    This reminds me of the story that Osama Bin Laden carried a 500 Euro bill ( back then the highest denomination for cash in the world, since withdrawn from circulation) sewn into his cloth when he died: It gives the sheeple something to babble about and feel informed. The net result is that it nails down the narrative.

    Creating the onion layers of the narrative is like cooking: add a fairytale here and a dead end there, keep the brains of the audience busy – must be a satisfying employment for cynics.

  319. Parfois1 says:
    @St-Germain

    Somewhere, Isaac Azimov is tearing his hair out for not thinking of this. It’s the ultimate Science Fiction.

    Good sermon. The Bishop of Paris would have praised it too. Although an inveterate peacemaker, he was not shy of inveighing against the depravity of the warlords of his days.

  320. Parfois1 says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    Creating a problem and then suggesting their own solution, at a profit of course, is one of the oldest plays in the Jewish bag of tricks…

    … and how protection rackets work.

  321. Miro23 says:
    @Thomasina

    8. The world elites, in collusion with the central banks, have blown massive financial bubbles.
    They realize they can’t continue blowing the bubbles any bigger, but they don’t see any way out without being blamed. They plant the virus in order to bring down the world economy, deflate the bubble. The virus takes the blame, not them. China blames the U.S., the U.S. blames China, some old people are sacrificed, and they raise a glass to the devil.

    I’m leaning towards #8.

    I would also lean towards #8. Globalization (off shoring) was about making extra profits, with bubble finance the same (market speculation, buy backs etc.) If both projects had gone about as far as they could, with the bubble going to burst anyway, then burst it in such a way that someone/something else takes the blame.

    Supporting evidence is that elite controlled Western media and governments have been whipping up the Coronavirus hysteria and paying little or no attention to the reality (99% of fatalities over 70 years with existing serious medical conditions).

    Also, there’s a lot of money to be made in a market crash. Somebody has to be doing the initial massive selling (e.g. Bezos). It wasn’t the public. They were record optimistic and fully invested.
    In a Pump and Dump cycle it’s the insiders winning since they initiate both the Pump and the Dump.

    When valuations get back to reality, then Nº8 predicts a media discovery that the Coronavirus was a big panic about nothing (stupid public) . And there’s the added bonus of having been able to kick China and Iran.

  322. Quinsat says:
    @AnonFromBeijing

    “Chinese are basically not allergic to Jews”

    And, as a result, you will end up being parasitized just like the West.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  323. @Franklin Ryckaert

    I’m not going to look into Gideon’s methodology but there is no doubt that US aid to Israel is killing Americans as that money should have been used to improve health care of US citizens and not the killing of Arabs. You also have to include the expense of all those wars on Arabs that the US itself conducts on the behalf of Israel, and I don’t know if Gideon included that also. Also the money secretly used in US covert ops to fund those very terrorists although most of that is harder to evaluate, except what they openly give to the White Helmets. And if you took into consideration all the aid given to Israel even before 2001, since whenever the US started funding that robber state, the cost when converted to current $s and the lives of Americans that could have been saved would be? By “saved” I mean prolonged, as those Americans would have eventually died anyway regardless of the quality of health care offered, but why die for Israel?

    ISIS is back in eastern Syria which is under control by US forces. So what have they done to combat the terrorists all this time?

    https://southfront.org/isis-threat-revives-in-eastern-syria-idlib-militants-kill-each-other-over-buffer-zone-deal-contradictions/

  324. Parfois1 says:
    @Anonymous

    … former Sen Joseph Lieberman boasting at a Chabad convention that the array of Chabad Centers around the globe puts the CIA to shame when it comes to spying and espionage…

    Many years ago after I was inducted into my first civilian job, a workmate introduced himself to me and after a few preliminaries said his ancestors were Jews expelled from Portugal and had settled in England. He was the first Jewish person I came across and I became aware that he was not welcomed by other workers and did not socialized with us outside the office. Being new there and fairly open-minded, I treated him as a friend and he told me about the Jewish system of mentoring and other social services carried by the local synagogue. One occasion when I was too outspoken about the crimes of the Jewish state he warned me to be careful because anyone who came to their notice as anti-Israelite (nowadays “anti-Semite”) was likely to be reported to the elders of the synagogue. Then I thought it to be a bizarre extravagance and dismissed it.

  325. Tsigantes says:

    “the world’s two greatest classical civilizations”

    really? Really?

    • Replies: @Jila
  326. Gina says:

    In 2012 the coronavirus with all the same symptoms called MERS Middle Eastern Respiratory Syndrome. Patient #1 was a man from Saudi Arabia. Google it. I couldn’t help but think of that while I was reading this article.

  327. @Ron Unz

    Here’s something interesting that I noticed.

    The Western countries (America and Western Europe) have generally mishandled the crisis. On the other hand, the major East Asian countries (China, South Korea, Taiwan, Japan) seem to be handling the crisis fairly competently.

    Why the difference?

    Is it just a coincidence that nearly every Western country seems to have mishandled the situation, while all the East Asian countries are on top of it? Or are there systematic differences between Western and East Asian societies that can explain the divergence?

    I have one more question. Lots of third world countries (in particular densely populated and enormous India) report very few cases. Do you think these numbers are realistic or is there just lack of testing? Do you think a huge and undetected crisis is brewing in the third world (especially India)?

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
  328. Alfred says:
    @Just Passing Through

    That is precisely the Israeli mindset. That you for revealing yourself. Other people only exist in order for you and your kin to steal their land and assets. You grab their land and then you have the audacity to claim that there are plenty of other lands out there waiting to be taken.

    A true psychopath. 🙁

  329. Alfred says:
    @Tor597

    [Too much Armstrong $15/month sales-nonsense. All such comments will get trashed.]

  330. Druid says:
    @dimples

    You really don’t know the enemy! !!!!! They’ve done worse in Germany and Russia

  331. Druid says:
    @Anon

    Sean is zio scum and should be reviled

  332. Aqualung says:
    @refl

    People here are calling the cops on kids playing soccer in the park! Begging to have the cops patrol the street, handing out tickets to people who stray outside.
    It’s like a trump rally.
    Lock us up! Lock us up! Lock us up!

    • LOL: refl
    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  333. idealogus says: • Website
    @Just Passing Through

    Only ethnomasochist and/or demented Whites actually care about Palestinians, I would certainly support them if it meant all Muslims went back to their own lands, but since most Muslims are not displaced by war (the majority of Muslims in Europe are Pakistani, Moroccan, Algerien etc), they will continue to stay even if Palestinians get their lands back.

    Absolutly 100% pure zionist propaganda.
    You, sir, just came out in the light and now we can see you as you really are.

  334. Alfred says:
    @anon8383892

    Thank you for having the courage to admit to having being duped.

    I was born in the Middle East and I have lived there for a total of 18 years in two large countries. I speak both dominant languages. When I was 6, the Israelis killed in cold blood 31 of my father’s workers. He survived only because his truck was a few minutes ahead of the one they shot up. That means is that I have the advantage of experience. I know who we are dealing with.

    I also know that their leaders are desperate at the moment. All their plans for redesigning the Middle East are collapsing. They know that Hezbollah can destroy them at any moment they wish. People in such a desperate situation feel obliged to resort to drastic measures. In this case, they seem to have decided to knock the card table to the ground. That is a dangerous tactic when playing for such high stakes.

    • Replies: @Trinity
  335. Alfred says:
    @Per/Norway

    God dag Per,

    His mission is to confuse people. To stigmatise all Muslims. To pretend that Islam is monolithic. To ignore the fact that Wahhabism is largely a creation of the British. That the rulers of Saudi Arabia were put there by the British.

    No one in the media mentions the fact that Iran occupied Georgia for centuries – until the Russian Empire took over. But the people of Georgia were allowed to keep their Christian religion. Even the name of the country is Persian. The locals call it Sakartvelo. Gorgan is Persian for “land of wolves”

    But all of that does not fit in with the Zionist mission.

  336. @bobbybobbob

    “virus (which isn’t actually killing anyone in interesting numbers). ”
    Those uninteresting numbers (about 10,000 deaths out of 250,000 i believe) Kind of depends whether its you, your family or friends who die i suspect.
    Nor are we anywhere near finished with death — personally, i can well do without “interesting” — or uninteresting deaths, for that matter (or, indeed, interesting times….)

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  337. @Franklin Ryckaert
    #115
    Thanks for the reminder. Though we don’t really care who can force the GB to drug us, just like we don’t really other peoples’ internal business, we only care that we were drugged. Also we don’t really care who consulted Mao with Communism, as long as we are the people who took the party and followed Mao.
    Jews marry/adopt Chinese, that’s nice, as long as the girls enjoy a better life.
    Jews want make a living in China? Already happened before.
    Check Henan province, some Jews settled there, assimilated, today they are totally Chinese. Though one day someone suddenly told them that they are actually descendants of Jews arrived many hundreds years ago, so they come up with a nice plan to settle back to the well developed mother country Israel.
    I don’t recall whether Israel welcomed them. Chinese laughed at the news. If you are rich, your relatives from thousands mile away hundreds years ago will come for you.

    You mean they want to govern China? What can I say? Welcome to the blackhole.

    @AstuteobserverorII
    #157
    Isn’t it that Judaism/Christianism/Muslim the branches of the same tree? Jerusalem the Holy city of the three biggest monotheism?
    Or do you suggest that Zionist took the hard lessons and developed themselves so well that they are kinda overthrowing the Anglo? Integrate? Chimera as a whole? No surprise, people learn.

    @FB
    #199, #208
    Thank you. It’s a pity I can’t watch the video you put in #199
    I try to ignore those common folks.
    But if the smart ones make a decision to permanently fool the common folks, they are eventually fooling themselves. People can’t cut the ties with their elite to play innocent, elite can’t cut the ties with their people to play long-term.

    @Daniel Rich
    #285
    ‘If they get involved in [Chinese] politics.’
    In Tang dynasty, many foreigners made it in Chinese politics. When Tang dynasty collapse, many foreigners also fight to the last blood and buried together with their beloved empire.
    Jews are not special, no one is really special.
    For any big nations, it’s always the enemies that come from its own people the most dangerous and vicious ones.
    So as long as we focus on taking care of our own business, it will be fine.
    If we start screw others and fuck ourselves, we deserve whatever comes along with it.
    But I do believe that oversea Chinese, especially those in US, should really learn from Jews on how to make a living, especially politically, as the climate is getting worse.
    But again, who am I to say that. I should just mind my own business.

  338. @Malcolms_brother

    Australia loves its sport — both main football codes have started their seasons (AFL & NRL) in massive, empty stadiums….the echoes, the sounds of silence are quite eerie.

  339. @9/11 Inside job

    This is a good point.

    All they had to do was push the start button on their pandemic plan after any new random stain of coronavirus was identified. It is obvious from Event 21 and prior materials this has been planned far in advance. The news kept changing daily and hourly and devices kept being dropped into the story that had people hooked on stupid details about what “it” was doing and they lost sight of the whole. Look into WHO and who started it and who runs it.

    THEY also practiced this and used elements of other hoaxes and false flags. The hoax New Zealand event was a practice run. Note that it had the same goal of information control and all the social media companies implemented worldwide bans on comments, channels or videos from the event.

    This time, you can see the “official” message in a banner anywhere on youtube. It will be followed by some variety of we tried to get the stupid goy to click the official guidance but it was not followed and next time you will only be allowed to watch what we say.

    This time, the alternative media was flooded with rumors and intentionally misdirected. (Look over here at some scientist saying the virus has peices of HIV in it) while we get ready to crash the market. Zero Hedge was perhaps the worst fearmongering rumor mill site and served their purpose well. Did Chinese take it from a lab in Canada, etc.

    Eveyone is looking for information about an invisible enemy supposedly mysteriously spreading the globe. Eveyone is focused on “it” and where it shows up and are paralyzed in fear. People are in fear of visiting their own families for fear that “it” might be carried. We are constantly reminded we might have “it” and not know it. Drive through testing is a practice run for drive through vaccines. Note that YOUR doctor and your relationship with him have been REMOVED from the equation.

    WE have not been given ANY sort of evidence anywhere that people died from a this specific virus. Just misinformation in droves. Misinfomation, lies and deception while they borrow many YEARS of GDP in a week from private banks. Meanwhile, well meaning patriots continue in their delusional hopes that this will all suddenly end and the criminals will be brought to justice. I wish but see zero evidence of this.

    Is there ANY wonder why these globalists make others grow tired of their acts of war and hatred? Happy Purim.

    • Agree: 9/11 Inside job
  340. Herald says:
    @UK

    The US did better in the 2019 Military Games than the 2015 ones.

    So that is your evidence that the US didn’t do it……hmmm. I know the UK is now a very much weakened Empire lackey, but come on, you will to have to do much better than that futile effort, if your pay is not going to be docked.

    • Troll: UK
  341. @Aqualung

    People here are calling the cops on kids playing soccer in the park!

    Where? Can you give location/country/state.

  342. Realist says:
    @Trinity

    We are all waiting for the magical cure to come out of Israel or have a Jewish scientist/doctor in America create a cure. Choose which one. lolololol

    Oh, the irony. A German scientist, during the Nazi time period, developed a possible cure for Covid-19…at least 86 years before Israel…who has been bragging that they will soon have a cure .

    • Replies: @Trinity
  343. @Quinsat

    Interestingly many countries which had expelled the Jews, and one would think they should know better, later allowed them to come back. England is a case in point. Only the Arab countries haven’t allowed them to return after expelling them following the 1967 war.

    • Replies: @Quinsat
    , @Alfred
  344. Moi says:
    @Trinity

    Yup, somewhere there is lurking a Shlomo Mengele 🙂

    • Agree: Trinity
  345. utu says:
    @Malcolms_brother

    “if it indeed is a bio-weapon — the value of the attack for this particular case does not lie in the attack itself. The goal is the propaganda that can be generated from the attack, i.e. the propaganda value. “ – Good point but I am not convinced yet that the Planners thought of it ahead of time.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  346. Sean says:
    @SBaker

    People with the Wuhan shed large viral loads prior to the onset of disease

    Exactly. So American bioweapons experts would also understand the late 2002 outbreak of SARS in China was no guide to how widely a coronavirus epidemic would spread. In other words, American bioweapons experts would never have used coronavirus -19 to attack China in the expectation that the resultant epidemic would be confined to China, as the 2002 outbreak of SARS was.

  347. Tsigantes says:

    Au contraire, China’s no.1 partner in Europe has been Greece starting from 2010 when the sale to Costco of Pireaus pier 1 was being negotiated, and which started functioning in 2012 as China’s maritime gateway into Europe. In 2015 the sale to Costco of pier 2 went through; Piraeus has become the busiest port of the Mediterranean.

    And we all know what happened to Greece. And is still happening to Greece.

    • Replies: @FB
    , @Twodees Partain
    , @Anon
  348. rsmith says:

    This article reminds me of Tin-foil hats and Black Helicopters. The author has jumped through numerous hoops in order to blame the U.S. for the Chinese virus while at the same time exonerating the Chi-coms for unleashing the virus on the rest of the world. The article is as full of holes as a piece of Swiss-cheese all it needs is the Ham and Rye to make it a complete BS sandwich. There are numerous erroneous suppositions made which are just opinion at best and flat out spin at worse. Let’s start with the obvious which any intelligent informed person is going to acknowledge. This virus started in China and no amount of blame-shifting is going to change that. The impetus for the start of the virus is at this time open to supposition but it started in China, and it was not taken into China by any outside entity U.S. or otherwise and then unleashed on an unsuspecting Chinese populace and government to gain economic or geopolitical advantage. In my **opinion** this thing started and was accidentally released in the Wuhan Center for Disease Control (WCDC) and the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Obviously not on purpose but the result was the same. The WCDC and Institute of Virology is just down the street from the out-door food market which provided convenient cover for the Chi-com story for the origination of the Virus being transmitted by live animals sold and eaten at the market. Once that cover story started to fall apart the Chi-coms next tried the three card Monte blame shifting routing along with useful dupes that propagate their tall tales or come up with their own onto the U.S. military. Absurd, this virus started in China and it was started by the Chinese and has now spread world-wide. The only thing yet to be determined is how the world controls what the Chinese released on it.

    • Agree: Poco
    • Troll: FB, Twodees Partain
  349. @Trinity

    Denis Leary spoke about how Low Gehrig died of Lou Gehrig’s disease… How the Hell did he not see that coming?

    • LOL: Trinity
  350. anarchyst says:
    @follyofwar

    There are those who blame the “boomers” for our troubles, but, the fact of the matter is that us “boomers” were too young to vote or to effect real political and social “pushback”.
    We were saddled with these destructive “civil-rights (for some)” laws without having any say in the matter.
    Those of us who DID protest such policies were branded as “racists” and worse. I didn’t care at the time, and still don’t care. The name-calling did not bother me in the least as I KNEW that I was (and still am) right.
    I was one of the few who attempted to “educate” my brethren about the destructive policies and laws that were being put in place that were successful in disenfranchising us white males. Those who knew me back than (that I still associate with) realize that I was right, all along. They have told me as such.
    From the misguided “civil-rights (for some)” laws, one-sided “affirmative action” laws, the abolition of “freedom of association”, the enforcement of “public accommodation” laws, and other destructive policies, it was easy to see where we were heading.
    Now, “the chickens have (indeed) come home to roost”.
    The “jewish question” will be dealt with in another tome…

    • Replies: @James Scott
  351. What cracks me up is all the CIA bots coming to parrot their slogans for morons, like, My mom’s a chiropractor and here’s what I think. The funniest CIA bullshit is, sure it coulda evolved naturally.

    Yeah why not? Maybe an African bat crapped on an Asian pig owned by a Mexican guy with AIDS and he went swimming and got snot on an otter who swam across the Pacific and puked on the beach in front of Tom Hanks’ house and Tom stepped in it and infected his friends the string Jews in New Rochelle and one of em blew a baby and all the germs had like this miscegenation orgy inside his little baby dick and their germ kids wound up with big germ muscles to beat up the lymphocytes and they ran amuk.

    Give it up. COVID-19 is a weapon. A naturally impossible chimera. Multiple introductions of strategically selected strains. The whole world knows it. We’re gonna find out who made it and who used it. And then we’re gonna go to Langley and we’re going to put their heads on sticks, next to their Zionazi henchmen.

    • Replies: @AB_Anonymous
  352. @FB

    Agreed. That saying from the ’80s is applicable, the one about fixing the blame instead of fixing the problem. Finding a scapegoat is the reaction of someone who couldn’t solve a problem if his life depended upon it.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  353. Trinity says:
    @Realist

    Well one of their most beloved and famous tribesman, Einstein, besides being a sexual pervert was a known plagiarizer and complete fraud so I guess stealing, banging your sister or daughter, and lying is in the genes.

    Since Trump has declared himself a “war time President” and IF THE WORLD finds out that the (((usual suspects))) were completely behind this and right now IMO (((they))) certainly look like the most suspect, WILL THE WORLD DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT? WILL ISRAEL BE PUNISHED LIKE SAY, GERMANY OR JAPAN OR IRAQ?

    What do you think?

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @FB
  354. @Tony Hall

    Thanks for taking the time to write your excellent response. When I wrote that last paragraph, I was thinking that it is the Boomers, of which I am one, who are making all the decisions. And it seems as if the mental well being of our young people is an afterthought.

    Peace

  355. @animalogic

    I doubt the figures being released. Where does your figure of 10K out of 250k originate?

  356. Trinity says:

    Emma Goldman, Sigmund “Fraud,” Henry Morgenthau, Bernard Baruch, were some of the first that gained prominence in America and began the plan of undermining OUR NATION AND OUR CULTURE. Then of course along came (((Hollywood.))) Then we continue on with The Lavon Affair, Ethel and Julius Rosenberg, JFK assassination, the USS Liberty, all the Jewish led so called (((counter culture))) movements of the 60’s led by Jews with names like Rubin, Ginsburg, Hoffman, Steinem, The Weathermen, and others, etc. The Jewish led Swindle Whites Movement that caused so much racial division and focused more on White racism and taking away the civil rights of Whites than creating equality for all in America. It was about usurping power from the White elites and placing it in Jewish hands while angering and using the Black population as pawns, foot soldiers to be used against Whites. Celler and Javits institute an Immigration Reform Act to help aid in bringing and favoring nonwhite population into a nearly 90% White America. More foot soldiers taught to hate Whitey. We have Jewish professors like Noel Ignatiev talking about “abolishing Whiteness,” not that Ignatiev doesn’t have plenty of company in the 60’s and 70’s when college campuses turn into hate Whitey places of indoctrination led by the same old suspects. Of course we need to mention super spy and traitor to America, Jewish Jonathan Pollard. And of course we have 9-11 an event that has Jewish fingerprints all over it. Move on to present day and (((they))) now no longer operate in the shadows and are becoming more and more bolder as (((their))) power increases over a an ever dwindling and more feeble White population. The Jew takeover in America has been on full display for at least a 100 years and anyone with an ounce of intellectual curiosity that sees that something isn’t right out there, could figure this out, thanks to the internet, in a matter of days if not hours of research. And just recently we can add the Mossad/Epstein & Maxwell “honey pot” used to entrap world leaders and American perverts like accused ex-President Bill Clinton. Imagine IF it were Russians or Chinese who ran Epstein Island? Think it would be pointed out that the people doing this were Russian or Chinese?

    It boggles my mind that ANYONE can still view Israel as an ally or that Jews are loyal American citizens given the past history of what has happened in America in the last 100 years. It would be one thing if Jews were just more loyal to Israel than America, no actual crime there unless if involves spying ala Jonathan Pollard or the Rosenbergs, but to openly try and takeover and destroy the native culture and the Founding Stock who built and created this nation is an act of war IMO. Israel should receive no aid from America and it damn sure shouldn’t be considered an ally.

  357. Issar says:
    @refl

    Right. China KNEW they were under a bio-weapon attack therefore took unprecedented measures to stamp it out. Looks like they succeeded. The U.S. military command KNOWS that a strain of CV leaked out of Ft. Detrick, Maryland bio-weapons lab last June when the wastewater thermal decontamination equipment failed and HAS KNOWN what effects this has had in the U.S. in the past 9 months–not much. The CIA took over the corona virus response two months ago and BLOCKED all testing thereby PREVENTING people from finding out that there was more corona virus (a dud) in the USA than in China. The West’s ‘response’ has been PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE on its own people and an exercise in bio-fear mongering which may be repeated in the future.

    In this context– please view the following German virologist’s analysis.

    • Replies: @FB
  358. Excellent article.

    To address the following:

    But if Covid-19 was a biological attack on China, China’s number one European partner Italy, and China’s close Middle Eastern friend (and Anglo-Zionist arch-enemy) Iran, why is it spreading elsewhere? A skeptic on Pepe Escobar’s email list recently responded: “Hi Pepe, I’m convinced the facts do not support your theory. The damage to the West is greater than to China and it would be suicidal for US to engineer this. Why rule out natural causes like the Spanish flu?”

    The answer is: the new “GreenEconomy.

    How to Crush a Bankers’ Dictatorship: A Lesson From 1933
    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2019/11/08/how-to-crush-bankers-dictatorship-lesson-from-1933/

  359. Realist says:
    @Trinity

    Well one of their most beloved and famous tribesman, Einstein, besides being a sexual pervert was a known plagiarizer and complete fraud so I guess stealing, banging your sister or daughter, and lying is in the genes.

    I believe it was his 1st cousin he was banging.

    Since Trump has declared himself a “war time President” and IF THE WORLD finds out that the (((usual suspects))) were completely behind this and right now IMO (((they))) certainly look like the most suspect, WILL THE WORLD DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT? WILL ISRAEL BE PUNISHED LIKE SAY, GERMANY OR JAPAN OR IRAQ?

    I believe that if any country was behind using Covid-19 as a bioweapon…it would be the US.

    • Replies: @Trinity
  360. Trinity says:
    @Alfred

    Tanks for the movie clip. Those “Trinity” movies inspired my current screen name that I use. haha.

  361. Trinity says:
    @Realist

    Inbreeding is so common among the tribe and yet they routinely self project their sexual perversions onto rural Whites, mainly Southern Whites in so many of their movies and/or books. Fact is, I have heard and read of more cases of inbreeding in nonwhite communities like Central America and Mexico, Africa, Middle Eastern countries including Israel, certain Asiatic countries like India and Pakistan, and even other parts of America than the American South. Matter of fact, if inbreeding is found in the Deep South, it is usually found in the African American community FAR MORE than it was or is in the White communities in the Deep South. Inbreeding is definitely more common in the Middle East and the Jewish community than it is or has ever been in the Deep South of America, probably even more prevalent in the Jewish community than even the African American community.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
    , @FB
  362. For those of us who mistrust just about everything the state says and does, skepticism runs high on this coronavirus “pandemic,” which is, of course, nothing of the sort. In February, I figured COVID-19 was a bioweapon population reducer but it is now obvious it is 1) a mechanism to destroy the economy in order to reset the economic system for a more centralized and fascistic global reconfiguration run by the financial and ruling elite, and 2) a covert method for diminishing liberty and imposing authoritarianism, so loved by the elite. Henry Kissinger was correct: when presented with a disaster (contrived or otherwise) the plebs will run to the government and beg to be protected. Kissinger was talking about the LA riots but this truism works for any “crisis.” COVID-19 is a glaring example of classic Hegelian problem-reaction-solution.

    • Agree: 9/11 Inside job
    • Replies: @Issar
  363. anon[153] • Disclaimer says:

    Here is the official story of No No CIA didn’t do this no way stop saying that.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9?sf231596998=1

    Can someone like old micro comment on this?

    “the evidence shows that SARS-CoV-2 is not a purposefully manipulated virus… since we observed all notable SARS-CoV-2 features, including the optimized RBD and polybasic cleavage site, in related coronaviruses in nature, we do not believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible.”

    The argument seems to be:

    (1) SARS-CoV-2 binding sites are not optimal, and CIA mad scientists would optimize them like existing germs do.

    […even though this virus is clearly good enough for government work]

    (2) “the genetic data irrefutably show that SARS-CoV-2 is not derived from any previously used virus backbone”

    […not derived from any of the massively undersampled virus backbone previously used in the public domain, that is…]

    Is this more than an arugumentum ad ignorantiam? Because those work really good for pooh-poohing black programs.

    And who are Kristian G. Andersen1,2, Andrew Rambaut ORCID: orcid.org/0000-0003-4337-37073, W. Ian Lipkin4, Edward C. Holmes ORCID: orcid.org/0000-0001-9596-35525 & Robert F. Garry?

  364. Antiwar7 says:
    @Ron Unz

    Ron or anyone that sees this,

    what do you think of the validity of this rebuttal to the Nature article that attempts to prove that SARS-CoV-2 was not engineered? In particular, the rebuttal claims the Nature article amazingly overlooked an important paper that showed the ability to increase the virulence of a virus using ferrets (who supposedly share the human ACE2 receptor)?

    https://harvardtothebighouse.com/2020/03/19/china-owns-nature-magazines-ass-debunking-the-proximal-origin-of-sars-cov-2-claiming-covid-19-wasnt-from-a-lab/

    • Replies: @FB
  365. FB says: • Website
    @Tsigantes

    ‘Costco’ is an American retail chain and has nothing to do with the Greek port at Piraeus, which is owned by Chinese shipping company COSCO…

  366. Quinsat says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Hi, CM.

    Funny you should mention England. I, too, had always wondered why they were let back in. By chance, however, I happen to be reading ‘The Controversy of Zion’ by Douglas Reed at the moment and came across this passage (page 94) just yesterday which caused me to rethink.

    What was demanded from Cromwell was in fact an act of public submission to the Judaic Law, not
    “the readmission” of the Jews, for they had never left England! They had been expelled on paper but had remained where they were, and a formal legalization of that situation was required. Cromwell was prevented by public opposition from doing this (although according to a Judaist authority, Mr. Margoliouth, he was offered £500,000 to sell to the Jews England’s greatest Christian monument, Saint Paul’s Cathedral, with the Bodleian Library thrown in!)

    Mr Reed seems to know what he’s talking about elsewhere in the book so I’m inclined to believe him here.

  367. @Trinity

    You are correct, except that the Cajuns in the Deep South have a reputation for it. Or is that a myth too?

  368. FB says: • Website
    @Trinity

    …Einstein, besides being a sexual pervert was a known plagiarizer and complete fraud so I guess stealing, banging your sister or daughter, and lying is in the genes.

    Like being retarded is in your genes…

    This, typically from you, is a load of horseshit that only makes you sound like a shrill hater…Einstein’s only daughter, Lieserl, either died shortly after birth or was given up for adoption…her fate is not known…Einstein and his first wife Mileva Maric who gave birth, were not yet married…they had two sons after marrying…

    So where do you get the crap about Einstein ‘banging’ his daughter…

    Einstein did marry his first cousin, Elsa, after Mileva divorced him…so that is not ‘banging’ his ‘sister’…

    There is some scholarly debate about the priority of the relativity theory which made Einstein famous…his published papers contained little or no formal references to previously published literature, to his discredit…his wife Mileva was also a physicist and is credited by some as having contributed to his important 1905 works…

    But to say that he was a fraud and plagiarizer is totally idiotic…and besides, do you realize that most of the notable physicists of that breakthrough era were Jewish…?

    I could list two dozen names here without any effort…does that mean they were all frauds and plagiarists…?

    You’re simply an illiterate bumpkin who has no business yapping about the history of physics…you would do well to first learn grade school arithmetic before popping off here…

    • Replies: @Trinity
  369. Alfred says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Only the Arab countries haven’t allowed them to return after expelling them following the 1967 war.

    In Egypt, they were expelled after the 1956 war when Egypt was invaded simultaneously by Israel, the UK and France. Eisenhower compelled the occupiers to leave. The French and British also left. Earlier, some Jews had been tricked into carrying out bomb attacks but the Egyptians did not expel the others. It was an attempt by Israel to get the Jews expelled.

    In Algeria, a huge number of Jews had to leave after a war of independence which cost million of Algerian lives. They had come with the French and were not indigent. In Morocco, Tunisia, Lebanon, Syria and Iran, they were indigent and they were never asked to leave. In Iraq, some Iraqi Jews were executed for spying for Israel and all the others left.

    Keep in mind that it has always been the goal of the Zionists that all these Jews should move to Israel.

    The French president who withdrew from Algeria, de Gaulle, was almost assassinated numerous times. The Americans were behind it. They financed the terrorists who were ex-soldiers. The “color revolution” in France in 1968 was organised by the Americans and the Jews. de Gaulle had to resign. Since then, France has been a Jewish colony. Not just Macron but all his predecessors.

    De Gaulle : “The Jews, a People Sure of Itself and Domineering”

  370. Trinity says:
    @FB

    haha. Must have hit a nerve, huh, Hymie. I only knew that Einstein aka the fraud and plagiarizer had sex with someone in his family tree WHICH IS SO COMMON AMONG YOUR ILK. I just suggested sister and wasn’t really factually stating that FRAUDstein banged his sister, but that your hero was guilty of banging someone in the family. hehe. Face it, Shlomo, your Jewish “heroes” are mostly ALL FRAUDS AND/OR SEXUAL PERVERTS. Your “history” is as FAKE as anything that comes out of Hollywood or Marvel comics, which are by COHENcidence both Jew run industries. ROTFLMWAO.

    I wonder how Hollywood or the Jewish community would feel if some company kept producing movies depicting Jews as cousin banging racists who are basically a superstitious, paranoid, emotionally ill group who are EXTREMELY XENOPHOBIC. Wait, that is how the Jew portrays Southern Whites. LMAO at irony.

  371. FB says: • Website
    @Trinity

    Inbreeding is so common among the tribe and yet they routinely self project their sexual perversions onto rural Whites, mainly Southern Whites in so many of their movies and/or books.

    Like most illiterate bumpkins here, you are simply too uneducated to understand history…and end up firing at the wrong target, as I have already pointed out in previous comments here…

    What are some of those ‘many books and movies’ that the Jews put out to undermine your white southern ‘culture’…?

    Would it be Tobacco Road… the hugely influential 1932 novel [made into one of the most successful Broadway plays and a John Ford movie] by Erskine Caldwell, an elitist Presbyterian from Georgia…and an advocate of sterilization for poor southern whites…?

    The fact is that the dehumanization of the rural poor was a project of your own WHITE affluent ruling elite…who continue unabated to keep you in misery, while you scream stupidly at Jewish shadows…

    Now I’m not defending the totally obscene American ‘culture’ built up by Smellywood which is in fact run by Jews…but the Jews are only giving the white ruling class what they want to see…and that is the brainwashing of stupid folks so they can be kept ignorant and poor and without rights in perpetuity…

    Anyway…this article by Kevin Barrett is about the coronavirus…not Einstein, nor incest in the south…try to stay on topic…

    • Replies: @Trinity
  372. @Tsigantes

    “the sale to Costco of Pireaus pier 1 ”

    That’s COSCO. Costco is that Kirkland based buying club in the US.

    • Replies: @Tsigantes
  373. FB says: • Website
    @Issar

    Thanks for that interesting video from an actual medical doctor [pulmonologist] who deals with this stuff…

    Some interesting facts he presents…corona viruses [there are many different strains] typically make up about ten percent of all flu types in any given year, so it is nothing new…

    This doctor, who speaks very factually, concludes that a big hysteria has been created around this…but he doesn’t speculate as to why, other than the obvious things like human folly and motivations of professional advancement for those working in this field…

    His commentary makes a lot of sense and provides good basic information…it is definitely worth watching…in fact one of the few truly informative videos posted in this thread…

    • Replies: @refl
    , @Issar
  374. @utu

    For me, the media overreaction is often the dead giveaway and this case is no exception to that.

    • Agree: 9/11 Inside job
  375. @Twodees Partain

    Did you mean, “If you aren’t part of the solution you are part of the problem”? That was from the ’60s.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  376. FB says: • Website
    @Antiwar7

    I made the time-wasting mistake of clicking on your idiotic link…which is nothing more than a totally obscure blog by anonymous persons…

    This blog ‘article’ you point to is woefully short on any actual scientific discussion and reads like it was written by a complete illiterate…it is totally bogus…

    The point of the article is to supposedly ‘debunk’ the peer-reviewed article that appeared a few days ago in the reputable British journal Nature…The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2

    The Nature paper concludes…

    Our analyses clearly show that SARS-CoV-2 is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus.

    Now this may or may not prove to be factual by itself…it is only one paper at an early stage of the investigation of this virus…

    However, the idiotic blog bullshit you pointed us to is transparently trying to push the completely unsupported nonsense that the virus originated from the Chinese Wuhan lab…due to the ‘Chicoms’ complete incompetence…

    …this virus leaked from a Chinese lab and so the Chinese government is to blame for this pandemic…

    The wild-eyed accusation is that the Chinese ‘own’ the journal Nature…and are ‘buying’ western scientists, all in order to cover up for their crime of ‘spilling’ this supposedly deadly virus on the world…

    As I noted in my previous comment and the linked video interview of a German doctor, it is becoming increasingly likely that there is way more hype and panic around this coronavirus than is merited…

    At the same time we see that the US is clearly engaging in a disinformation war that seeks to paint the virus as ‘Chinese’…

    STOP WASTING OUR TIME WITH NONSENSE…

  377. TkA says:
    @Sasha

    Are you telepathic? That is nearly word for word what I was thinking all day. Down to the Waterloo reference. Yesterday I bought stock, not penny to the dollar, but dime to the dollar. I am not greedy. Great to realise there are other people like me. Salutations!

    • LOL: Sasha
    • Replies: @Sasha
  378. Hacienda says:
    @Trinity

    Bong Joon Ho dismissed Hollywood as being local. For that he got 4 Oscars. Blacks can now just order up Oscars by cell phone app- Blackly. If only Southern whites could do the same thing. You’re not good at rioting, and you blend in too well into the woodwork. Guess you’re stuck with NASCAR and that goofy country music. Sorry, I tried. Can’t help you.

  379. @The Jew Flu

    “COVID-19 is a weapon”
    Yes, it’s both “fear and bio weapon”. Aimed to kills useless human cattle (old and weak,
    sitting on medicare, etc.), and to scare the hell out of the useful, so far, rest, so they’d
    beg for electronic leashes to be placed around their necks.

  380. aandrews says:

    Denmark rushes through emergency coronavirus law

    The Local
    13 March 2020

    Denmark’s parliament on Thursday night unanimously passed an emergency coronavirus law which gives health authorities powers to force testing, treatment and quarantine with the backing of the police.

    The far-reaching new law will remain in force until March 2021, when it will expire under a sunset clause.

    […]

    Jens Elo Rytter, law professor at Copenhagen University, said the measures were unlike anything passed in the last 75 years “It is certainly the most extreme since the Second World War,” he told the Jyllands-Posten newspaper. “There have been some powerful encroachments in various terror packages. But this goes further.”

    […]

    As well as enforcing quarantine measures, the law also allows the authorities to force people to be vaccinated, even though there is currently no vaccination for the virus.

    It also empowers them to prohibit access to public institutions, supermarkets and shops, public and private nursing homes and hospitals, and also to impose restrictions on access to public transport.

    Initially, the government wanted to the law to give the police the right to enter private homes without a court order if there is a suspicion of coronavirus infection. But this was dropped after opposition from parties in the parliament.

  381. Mefobills says:
    @Anonymous

    It is the historical pattern. Your denials notwithstanding.

  382. @Kevin Barrett

    Hello, Mr. Barrett. Thank you for your contribution. I’ve been doing some reading on The Chan Question (CQ; I’m sick of hearing the official name for this thing and so going with the meme) for the past few days and trying to organize my thoughts. Of course, getting to the bottom of this thing seems like a herculean task, especially for a little person like me, and it is difficult to know where to start. As I am late to the game on this thread I have decided to post my comment in response to you as it might get more traction that way.

    I’m not going to try to present any answers in this post, as I don’t have any (yet), but instead try to build a framework for going forward.

    Things to keep in back of mind

    1) The entirety of the US and western political establishment seems to be unreformably corrupt. Everything we have been hearing about lately: Epstein blackmail operations against all major centers of influence, election shenanigans in Iowa, the weaponizing of ever more bizarre identities against normal people, the shutting down of discourse on major platforms, etc. ad nauseum, make this assessment uncontestable. The US elite cannot be relied upon to do anything in the public interest and the MSM cannot be taken at their word on anything. And to the extent to which supposedly non-political entities like the CDC or WHO have been captured they cannot be fully trusted either. This makes evaluation of any information very difficult.

    2) Despite all the events of the last couple decades, there have been some constants: a) The US has been waging endless war against every “enemy” non-stop; and there has been nearly zero opposition within the system to this agenda; b) the domestic orientation of the elite has been nothing but rent extraction on the economic front and the slow but accelerating buildup of an authoritarian control grid. Our “representatives” can’t ever seem to agree on anything, but on these points they are pretty much in lock step.

    3) The foundations of The Empire are the following: a) Massive military capacity in comparison with rivals; b) reliance of the entire world on the Imperial currency; c) arrangements, de facto and de jure, with both vassals and potential rivals that guarantee the repatriation of foreign country trade surpluses back into the Imperial coffers. This arrangement gives the Empire a distinct advantage over others in that, as Cheney said, “deficits don’t matter.” Essentially, the Empire can run any size of balance of payments deficit and print whatever quantity of money because whatever funds flow out of the Empire return to the Empire. The problem for the Empire is that no element of its power can stand alone. If any element falls, the other elements become worthless. No expensive military = no ability to force the arrangement on others; No arrangement = no ability to financially sustain the military.

    4) Point #3 is useful for understanding the behavior of the Empire. Think about a poker player who can only play one hand over successive rounds. It might be a powerful hand, but the other players have more cards to play with and so can vary their hands across rounds. Eventually they are going to beat the Empire. Moreover, once the Empire has played the same hand over several rounds, the Empire becomes predictable, i.e. it’s one decent hand gets weaker and weaker. This encourages the Empire to try to bluff more and more, with its bluffs eventually looking more and more irrational.

    5) As the game goes on and the Empire begins to sense that it will be forced from the table, it might be inclined to just ruin the game in any manner as a kind of Samson option. (I’ve noticed commenter Alfred has made this analogy as well.)

    Competing hypotheses on the CQ

    [MORE]

    1) Official story: COVID19 originates in a Wuhan “wet” seafood/exotic animal market in late 12/19 and begins to spread throughout the PRC due to authoritarian cover-ups and then to other East Asian nations and eventually to the West due to mistakes.

    2) Pro-Empire conspiracy theory: COVID19 was invented by the Chinese as a bioweapon and accidentally/intentionally leaked into the Chinese population. Contagion exacerbated by PRC authoritarian state and initial cover ups. The West is now having to deal with the “Chinese Virus.”

    3) Anti-Empire conspiracy theory: COVID19 is a bioweapon produced by the Empire to attack enemies of the Empire.

    A. Appearance in the West is due to accident/incompetence.

    B. “Appearance” in the West is intentional and part of “the plan.”

    i) The “appearance” in the West or at least the US is a lie or intentionally being blown out of proportion.

    ii) The appearance in the West is real, it is serious, and the internal chaos is an “opportunity.”

    4) Much ado theory: COVID19 is just a bad flu that kills mostly old people and people with preexisting conditions being hyped by an hysterical media for attention or something.

    A Crime Analogy

    (Full disclosure: I have no background in criminology.)

    This post is already long, so I’ll end it with this.

    I think it might be helpful to compare The Chan to the discovery of a body, say, in the woods or mountains. Clearly something “not right” has happened, but it is not clear whether the death is due to accident (slip and fall off cliff); suicide; or a crime.

    Naturally, physical evidence from both the body and the area would be obtained. Perhaps examination of the body reveals death consistent with a large fall and the surrounding area supports that possibility. A naïve investigator might be inclined to say, “I see no evidence of foul play” and rule in favor of accident or suicide.

    However, a more cynical investigator might decide to look further, find out who the person was and talk to people she knew. Suppose the investigator interviews a friend of the victim who tells the investigator that the victim had said she was going hiking alone, but subsequent digging reveals that the friend was, in fact, on the hiking trip with the victim.

    Now, the whole investigation takes a qualitatively different turn, not just because the victim was not alone, but more importantly, because the friend lied.

    Now, at the beginning of The Chan’s appearance we had a quick (almost too quick) consensus that it came from a Wuhan seafood market. As Max Perry states in his article on UR:

    Although the disease is widely assumed to have been first transmitted through zoonosis because the earliest grouping of cases were linked to a Wuhan seafood market trading exotic wildlife in late December, the actual first known case was traced to the beginning of the month and may not have been originally passed through an animal.

    Furthermore, the statements of the Chinese Foreign Minister certainly seem to question the bad seafood story. If we can show that the seafood market story is inconsistent with the origins of the Chan, then we can catch the whole establishment in a lie and that will help us decide if the rest of the circumstantial evidence suggesting Imperial shenanigans should be given more weight.

    • Thanks: NoseytheDuke
  383. Trinity says:
    @FB

    “obscene American ‘culture” built up by Smellywood…” hahaha. Hellywood doesn’t have a damn thing to do with American culture, freak. Sure, Hellywood has brainwashed Americans, (((they))) have taught African Americans to hate, Southerners and other Whites to feel guilty, taught clueless Americans that Hitler and those dastardly “Nazis” were the most evil people to ever grace the planet, that the “holocaust” was responsible for the deaths of “6 million” Jews, blah, blah, blah, PUKE.

    Nah, freak, how about movies like Django Unchained for example. Didn’t the convicted rapist, Harvey Slimestein’s company produce that trash or am I wrong about that one as well? And lets look at who has a stranglehold on the major publishing companies here and in Europe, freak? Cuckold writers like John Grisham even reversed the races of the perps and the victims of his book, “A Time To Kill.” WHY didn’t he write a book based on the actual event as it happened. Go away freak. Anyhow I have to go do my hill training to stay in shape. Man, these hills are brutal training for a hillbilly like me.

    LAAAAAAAAAAAttttttttteeerrrrrrr.

    • LOL: NoseytheDuke
    • Replies: @FB
  384. aandrews says:
    @FB

    His guest, Michael Osterholm, points to pangolin as the origin. Pangolins are on the Red List of Threatened Species, threatened with extinction, yet they’re evidently highly sought after as a folk remedy in China.

    • Replies: @FB
    , @bjondo
  385. @Ron Unz

    I would have thought that you only read the NYT for the same reason as I read the Guardian, to see what brain-junk-food is being shovelled out for the masses to swallow on any given day. The list of lies is much too long and goes back way too far for me to even attempt to compile. The list of truths is much, much shorter and mostly involves matters of lesser importance and even those are frequently spun to add weight to the lies.

    Discrediting the legacy media to the point that it becomes nothing more than a punchline is one of the most pressing tasks for genuine patriots everywhere and, it must be noted, that you are doing as much as anyone on that score.

    • Agree: 9/11 Inside job
    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  386. refl says:
    @FB

    Wolfgang Wodarg also has a website that contains some articles in english:

    https://www.wodarg.com/

    He definitely is in trouble now, because when it comes to criticizing the GröKaz (Größte Kanzlerin aller Zeiten/ Greatest chancellour of all times), then life will become unpleasant for anyone – and other then the former chief of the interiour secret service, who was condamned from memory two years ago, this one is just a pulmologist, former member of parliament and has been working for Transparency International.

    There is some other interview with him, where he explaines how the swineflu-panic was staged to get Tamiflu sold in 2008, how factories were built in the early 2000-s in sync with the WHO, which could make buying their – often useless – meds mandatory for states.

    It has been coming out that hospitals in Italy have already folded in 2017 with that years flu-epidemic (which was worse then this one will get). This happens against the background that Italy has been bankrupted over a decade of euro-crisis.
    So Italians will be very calm about exposing their plight to their European neighbours, who have let them down while China is sending doctors. Italy is closer to China now then to its European neighbours, and this shift will resonate for decades to come.

    • Replies: @Issar
  387. Mefobills says:
    @Ron Unz

    Well, I think there’s a certain amount of circumstantial evidence suggesting that the Coronavirus outbreak may have been an American bioweapon attack against China (and Iran).

    Below is perhaps some more circumstantial evidence. Why was the CDC ramping up to hire hundreds and maybe thousands of new public health advisers to administer quarantine programs?

    https://jobs.cdc.gov/job/dallas/public-health-advisor-quarantine-program/250/14136286

    Job Announcement Number: HHS-CDC-D3-20-10640010
    SALARY RANGE: $51440.0 to $93077.0/Per Year
    OPEN PERIOD: 2019-11-15 to 2020-05-15
    SERIES & GRADE: GS–9/11

    November 15’th predates the first reported Coronavirus case in Wuhan (on December 10’th) by almost a month.

    https://www.axios.com/timeline-the-early-days-of-chinas-coronavirus-outbreak-and-cover-up-ee65211a-afb6-4641-97b8-353718a5faab.html

    • Thanks: utu, Tor597
  388. FB says: • Website
    @Trinity

    Anyhow I have to go do my hill training to stay in shape.

    OK…good luck with your ‘exercise’…or should I say extra fries…?

  389. @FB

    This blog ‘article’ you point to is woefully short on any actual scientific discussion and reads like it was written by a complete illiterate…it is totally bogus

    It would have been better for the author to present a more dispassionate response, but it is not “totally bogus.”

    I read the article. There is evidence that Springer Nature, the corporate head of Nature magazine, did, in fact, facilitate censorship on behalf of the Chinese government. No, this is not conclusive evidence that China has bought off scientists to cover up the alleged responsibility of China in disseminating Covid-19, though it does indicate that political pressure can and has influenced even periodicals staking their reputation upon purportedly “objective” analyses. (The famous whitewash of the science underlying the Twin Towers’ collapse published by Popular Mechanics is one of the more renowned examples.)

    Contrary to your claim, there is scientific discussion at the link. At the same site, the following page provides a more dispassionate argument:

    https://harvardtothebighouse.com/2020/01/31/logistical-and-technical-analysis-of-the-origins-of-the-wuhan-coronavirus-2019-ncov/

    I myself am not advancing any theories about this outbreak, though I do think it’s important to keep things in perspective. Wholesale dismissal of the site’s content isn’t really prudent, however much you or I may disagree with its conclusions.

    • Disagree: FB
    • Replies: @Antiwar7
  390. @Trinity

    You are correct again, Trinity. Einstein was a sister banger, if we were to use some of the Slavic languages instead of English, as they use the same word for “sister” and “cousin”. And for those of the Orthodox Christian faith, marrying your “sister”, or cousin for that matter, is forbidden. Even marrying second cousins is forbidden:

    https://blog.obitel-minsk.com/2018/04/complete-list-of-prohibited-marriages.html

    So his first Orthodox Christian wife Mileva Maric must have been disgusted with him and could have rightly called him a sister banger once she found out. Maybe she even did. And even worse, in any private arguments and conversations.

    Mileva did contribute majorly to his work and was supposedly the co-author of their submitted paper, as witnessed by a Russian scientist who was at the time working for one of the journal’s referees, but somehow her name was mysteriously erased on publication. So yes, most probably a plagiariser of his own wife too. But he did give her the entire monetary proceeds of the Nobel prize as a divorce settlement, but only because they had a pre-signed legally binding contract that it should be so in case he won the prize and filed for divorce. All this info is out there and I have given links previously.

    • Thanks: Trinity
    • Replies: @FB
    , @Trinity
  391. @NoseytheDuke

    No, I mean “Stop trying to fix the blame. Fix the problem”. I remember hearing and reading it during the ’80s.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  392. FB says: • Website
    @aandrews

    …Michael Osterholm, points to pangolin as the origin.

    More nonsense…

    Instead of wasting time with Joe Rogan, anyone here can quickly ascertain the facts around the Pangolin story…

    Pangolins are an extremely endangered species of small anteater that have a scaly coat similar to an armadillo…their trade is illegal in China, but smuggling does exist for their idiotic ‘folk medicines’ and such…[yes, this is a very problematic part of traditional Chinese culture, but the CCP is working hard to stamp out this harmful and immoral stuff…]

    Now the Pangolin story took off in early February after Chinese researchers announced they had found that the coronavirus [SARS COV2] that is now spreading has nearly the same genome as that found in pangolins…99 percent…

    But this turned out to be a miscommunication…

    It turns out that the Pangolin COV2 virus is only 90 percent the same genome as that in humans, which mostly rules out any kind of connection…crucially, the Chinese researchers did not make any kind of mistake…it was simply MISCOMMUNICATED by their non-technical press people at the news conference announcing the study back in February…

    Scientists are racing to identify the source of the coronavirus that is causing havoc around the world.

    Three weeks ago, Chinese scientists suggested, on the basis of genetic analyses, that the scaly, ant-eating pangolin was the prime suspect. But scientists have now examined those data — along with three other pangolin coronavirus genome studies released last week — and say that although the animal is still a contender, the mystery is far from solved.

    –article in Nature, Feb 26

    Wikipedia notes that the initial panic about pangolins may have led to a mass slaughter, as occurred with civet cats back in the SARS outbreak in 2002…

    This kind of stuff is extremely harmful obviously…and completely unnecessary hysteria…

    So…one might ask why is this Michael Osterholm, who is supposed to be a respected leading scientist, pushing this bullshit…?

    A quick look at his wiki bio tells us that he is director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy…and a ‘biosecurity’ expert…well…considering that these ‘biosecurity’ experts are behind all the panic and hysteria that has literally gone insane in recent days, one has to really wonder if there is actually an AGENDA at play here [as this very article hints at…’they doth protest quite loudly’…]

    Note also that ‘the mystery is far from solved’…

    Yet everybody is now running around in chicken with head cut off mode…and everyone from Trump and especially the hideous Pompeo are ramping up a completely nonsensical war of words against China…

    Again…there is more reason to be very very suspicious with each passing moment…especially of purported ‘experts’ like Osterholm…

    • Replies: @aandrews
  393. FB says: • Website
    @Commentator Mike

    Mileva did contribute majorly to his work and was supposedly the co-author of their submitted paper, as witnessed by a Russian scientist…

    And that Russian scientist was Abram Ioffe, himself a Jew…

    So why would a fellow ‘tribesman’ go against his own kind and side with non-Jew Mileva…?

    So no…Trinity’s illiterate nonsense is in no way ‘right’ in any way…Mileva might indeed have contributed to Einstein’s work, as may have the work of others that he failed to acknowledge…that is a legitimate scholarly debate that is in fact ongoing…

    But to dismiss him as a ‘plagiarist’ is quite stupid…no scientist has ever come up with anything completely on his own…the very essence of science is to proceed from ‘first principles’ [ab initio approach in physics] which are physical laws that have been established very painstakingly through much scientific discovery and debate over the ages…

    Newton said, humbly, that his achievements were only possible because he stood on the shoulders of ‘giants’…this is true for every scientist…

  394. Sasha says:
    @PetrOldSack

    Yes, Putin especially is almost radiating serenity. Of course everything is relative, and compared to the opposition…

  395. Sasha says:
    @TkA

    TkA – I have only ever gambled on horses, and as they have cancelled all racing, I am at loose ends and am curious about opportunities that may arise, but a complete ignoramus about markets – always grateful for insight! … and of course salutations to you!

  396. Tsigantes says:
    @Twodees Partain

    You’re right, shame on me!
    And I’ve never even seen a Costco nor visited USA in 20 years….it must be the Unz influence percolating Americana 😉

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  397. @NoseytheDuke

    Shakespeare said it best when he wrote, methinks the media whores doth protest too much.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  398. @Mefobills

    Great find on the CDC jobs ad! I just want to highlight something from the ad:

    This position is located in the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), National Center for Emerging & Zoonotic Infectious Diseases (NCEZID), Division of Global Migration and Quarantine (DGMQ), Quarantine and Border Health Services Branch (QBHS) within various locations.

    Did the CDC predict that a bat soup disease would emerge from a seafood market in central China one month later!? Wow! I’ve never had a psychic reading, but if I ever do I’m getting mine done at the CDC!

    But one thing I won’t ask the CDC for is prompt response to an emerging disease in America. Moon of Alabama quoting the NYT:

    By Feb. 25, Dr. Chu and her colleagues could not bear to wait any longer. They began performing coronavirus tests, without government approval.

    The message from the federal government was blunt. “What they said on that phone call very clearly was cease and desist to Helen Chu,” Dr. Lindquist [the state epidemiologist in Washington] remembered. “Stop testing.”

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/03/coronavirus-the-hidden-cases-why-we-must-shutdown-everything-and-do-it-now-.html#more

    Predict the event; delay the domestic response? What is up?

  399. @anarchyst

    Not all Boomers are to blame.

    Just most of them.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  400. aandrews says:
    @FB

    “Wikipedia notes that the initial panic about pangolins may have led to a mass slaughter….”

    Holy shit!

  401. Trinity says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Tanks, Mr. Mike. I didn’t remember which kinfolk that FRAUDstein banged and I can’t even remember if I said “sister” or mother for that matter. haha. I was MAINLY pointing out that the COMPLETE FRAUD was a pervert just like his “cousin” ( teehee) Sigmund FRAUD, and their relative, Woody Allen. ( double teehee teehee.) Anyhow, it looks like you done went and riled up (((FB))), so thank you kindly for that as well, sir. Stay safe out there. This ZIOvid 19 is doing a number on folks, especially to my Italian brothers and sisters. May God help Italy. Here’s hoping that (((FB))) will stop talking to himself because hardly anyone is listening. Cheers, mate, I’m about to grab myself a bite to eat.

  402. Issar says:
    @refl

    As of a several days ago– two deaths so far in Italy can be attributed to CV w/o chronic pre-existing conditions in people average age 80 years old. Please see, 1 hour 40 minute mark in this video. Go to 10 minute mark for info on Ft. Detrick bio-weapons lab breech in late June last year.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  403. Issar says:
    @FB

    He”s letting the cat out of the bag. The cat is still in the room but looks like it’s about to jump out the window.

    His remarks need to be seen in the context that the Chinese apparently believed they were under a bio-weapons attack. They took extraordinary measures because they were uncertain of the lethality of the bio-weapon. What if a separate strain has been circulating in the U.S. since late last June? How would the CDC react? They would attribute outbreaks to other causes and close the bio-weapons lab responsible without much publicity? Check. They would call a conference in which a projected corona virus outbreak is attributed to pig farms in South America. They surely did. Please view, the following– the second beginning at the 10 minute mark.


    • Thanks: FB, Godfree Roberts
    • Replies: @FB
    , @FB
  404. @James Scott

    That is the equivalent of saying everyone named James Scott is an idiot when in fact we only know for sure that it is just one of them, the one commenting on The Unz Review.

  405. Miro23 says:

    According to new documents and interviews with military experts, the various plans – codenamed Octagon, Freejack and Zodiac – are the underground laws to ensure government continuity. They are so secret that under these extraordinary plans, “devolution” could circumvent the normal Constitutional provisions for government succession, and military commanders could be placed in control around America.

    COG (Continuity Of Government) organization is certainly in place, and the Zio-Globalists tried to activate it (unsuccessfully) under Cheney on the day of 9/11.

    There’s a consensus that the worst of the Coronavirus crisis has passed but this isn’t necessarily true. The oil price hit a new low today (21st April) with the oil price being an important indicator of the economic effect of the Coronavirus shut down (independent from the Saudi-Russia question).

    If the thing continues down, then COG could well become a reality, and it will be judged locally. COG will need be represented in every county and state by some sort of enforcement (Police/Homeland Security/Military) and their interaction with the public will determine the future of the US.

    For what it’s worth, my guess is that enforcement will side with the locals.

  406. @Tsigantes

    It must be indeed. I once confused the Danish cast iron cookware firm, Copco, with COSCO, but that was a verbal slip while buying a used piece from a local antique dealer. 😉

  407. Antiwar7 says:
    @FB

    Why are you so hostile? I just asked a question. I agree that the authors have a stupid anti-China bias. I didn’t force you or anyone to read it. There’s something wrong with you.

    Anyway, you didn’t even comment on the main point I brought up, namely whether the research discussed also here:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/08/opinion/sunday/an-engineered-doomsday.html
    was relevant to this issue. But don’t bother clicking on the link, FB. I don’t want to be responsible for the resulting crybaby tantrum.

    • Replies: @FB
  408. @NoseytheDuke

    Ah, yeah, good ol’ Willie the Shake. He popped out a good one every now and then. Even an anachronism or two. 😉

  409. Antiwar7 says:
    @AnonStarter

    Thanks. I was only asking a question. And I certainly don’t agree with that author’s rabid anti-China bias.

    I read the Nature article, https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9 , and it didn’t seem definitive. It seems to contain many assumptions that may or may not be true, and yet many people are treating it as the definitive word on the subject.

    • Replies: @AnonStarter
  410. FB says: • Website
    @Antiwar7

    Why are you so hostile?

    Why are you so retarded…?

    I did ‘comment’ on that stupid blog ‘article’ you linked to…it is useless to any fruitful discussion, a complete load of shit…I made that perfectly clear…

    Your latest link to the NYT editorial is from eight years ago…and has to do with a Netherlands lab that apparently succeeded back then in mutating the then ‘bird flu’ virus that was ravaging China’s pountry industry, into a human form…so I am adding a comment here to try to add some context…

    The interesting thing here is not the silly editorializing itself [which clearly comes from non-scientific fools at the NYT]…but the fact that it was relatively easy to tweak the genetics of that bird virus to make it transmissible to humans…

    Something to keep in mind today as well…

    Anyway, others have noted in various articles and comments here that China seems to have been hit with a lot of viruses in recent years…poultry, pigs, SARS and now this…

    Is it all a big happy coinkidink…?

    We may never know for sure…but in these last few years the Chinese have ramped up their scientific capabilities, including that very advanced lab in Wuhan, which makes perfect sense for a country that is being hit by plagues of viruses…

    And now that they have advanced their science, there is a huge information war against them directed by the US govt and media…again, just another coinkidink I guess…?

    • Replies: @Antiwar7
  411. Trinity says:

    Lets all blame China instead of (((someone else.)))

  412. @Mefobills

    I also looked at the Axios link (published 3/18) you posted.

    First, let me say that I understand your point was to show that the CDC ad predates the first confirmed case in Wuhan (12/10/19 per Axios) and I am not arguing against that point.

    However, I have to say that the Axios timeline does not seem to be confirmed by my own quick research. First, the sources for the Axios timeline are WSJ and Bezos’ blog almost entirely. Second, the timeline comes right out at the beginning and says that are they writing the timeline to show how China screwed up the response via cover ups and incompetence:

    Axios has compiled a timeline of the earliest weeks of the coronavirus outbreak in China, highlighting when the cover-up started and ended — and showing how, during that time, the virus already started spreading around the world, including to the United States.

    Now, the first three entries of the timeline are the following:

    Dec. 10: Wei Guixian, one of the earliest known coronavirus patients, starts feeling ill.

    Dec. 16: Patient admitted to Wuhan Central Hospital with infection in both lungs but resistant to anti-flu drugs. Staff later learned he worked at a wildlife market connected to the outbreak.

    Dec. 27: Wuhan health officials are told that a new coronavirus is causing the illness.

    The first thing that got my attention was the 12/27 entry. Why the passive voice? Why not reveal who told the Wuhan health officials? (I tried to click on the link to see, but WP says I’m in private browsing and won’t let me see the article!)

    Given that Bezos is blocking me, I looked elsewhere for information. The wiki timeline says the following:

    26 December

    On 26 December 2019, a laboratory identified the coronavirus from the sample collected on 24 December as to be most closely related to a bat SARS-like coronavirus.[19]

    27 December

    On 27 December 2019, almost complete genetic sequencing of the previous sample have been finished and shared to Institute of Pathogen Biology, Chinese Academy of Medical Sciences & Peking Union Medical College (CAMS&PUMC).[19]

    Tracking the source of New Coronavirus gene sequencing: when the alarm sounded] (in Chinese). Caixin. 26 February 2020. Archived from the original on 27 February 2020. Retrieved 1 March 2020.

    29 December

    According to a CCDC [China CDC] publication on 31 January 2020, the facts leading up to the identification of the 2019-nCoV were as follows, “On 29 December 2019, a hospital in Wuhan admitted four individuals with pneumonia and recognized that all four had worked in the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market, which sells live poultry, aquatic products, and several kinds of wild animals to the public. The hospital reported this occurrence to the CCDC, which led Wuhan CCDC staff [Wuhan Health Officials] to initiate a field investigation with a retrospective search for pneumonia patients potentially linked to the market. The investigators found additional patients linked to the market, and on 30 December, health authorities from Hubei Province reported this cluster to CCDC. The following day, CCDC sent experts to Wuhan to support the investigation and control effort. Samples from these patients were obtained for laboratory analyses.”[22]

    Team, The 2019-nCoV Outbreak Joint Field Epidemiology Investigation; Li, Qun (1 January 2020). “An Outbreak of NCIP (2019-nCoV) Infection in China — Wuhan, Hubei Province, 2019−2020”. China CDC Weekly. 2 (5): 79–80. Archived from the original on 28 January 2020. Retrieved 8 February 2020 – via weekly.chinacdc.cn.

    So, Axios says Wuhan officials are told about the cause of a new illness on 12/27. But according to Wikipedia (can’t read source, it’s in Chinese) 12/27 coincides with the successful sequencing by a Chinese medical academy, suggesting Chinese individuals are informing Wuhan health officials.

    The 12/29 entry from Wikipedia then indicates that the process of discovery and research is in fact a two way street from the Wuhan hospital to the Wuhan health officials to the Chinese CDC and back.

    Why is Axios being so unclear?

    Now, let’s look into the first two entries of the Axios timeline (published 3/18/20). Axios says the first patient became ill 12/10 and went to hospital 12/16 and was found to be linked to the market.

    [MORE]

    But this is contradicted by sources cited in the wiki timeline. A Science magazine article from 1/26/2020 says the following regarding a Lancet paper:

    The paper, written by a large group of Chinese researchers from several institutions, offers details about the first 41 hospitalized patients who had confirmed infections with what has been dubbed 2019 novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV). In the earliest case, the patient became ill on 1 December 2019 (typo at Axios?) and had no reported link to the seafood market, the authors report. “No epidemiological link was found between the first patient and later cases,” they state. Their data also show that, in total, 13 of the 41 cases had no link to the marketplace. “That’s a big number, 13, with no link,” says Daniel Lucey, an infectious disease specialist at Georgetown University.

    Earlier reports from Chinese health authorities and the World Health Organization had said the first patient had onset of symptoms on 8 December 2019 (close to 12/10, but not right)—and those reports simply said “most” cases had links to the seafood market, which was closed on 1 January.

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/01/wuhan-seafood-market-may-not-be-source-novel-virus-spreading-globally

    So, the Axios timeline seems to be promoting disinformation on a number of points while claiming the WSJ and WP as sources. Why? Is it because Axios has a narrative they want to push?

    The bottom line: China is now trying to create a narrative that it’s an example of how to handle this crisis when in fact its early actions led to the virus spreading around the globe.

    In other words, China man bad!

    Axios claims that the crisis was made public by the China People’s Daily on 1/21/20, on the same day that the US CDC announced the first case in the US. This follows several entries in which they mention Chinese doctors being spoken to by authorities about their WeChat posts. It seems like Axios is implying that the Chinese government only made the crisis public after the US had already announced it, in order to make sure the US didn’t get the “truth” to the Chinese people first.

    But there is another interpretation that is very plausible: Chinese authorities made concerted efforts early on to detect and understand the problem, but delayed creating panic among the Chinese public which they feared would exacerbate the spread of the virus, until measures were planned and prepared to handle the public reaction.

    Another thing: why is the US media still reporting (as of 3/18/20) about the “bat soup” market when reputable sources like the Lancet were reporting in late January about early 12/19 cases unrelated to the Wuhan market?

    As I said in my reply to Mr. Barrett, catching the US media in a lie about the origins of The Chan is a key part of finding the truth.

    Thanks for the links! Very helpful!

    • Thanks: Mefobills
  413. Kevin Barrett, your thoughtful comments and conclusions are plausible enough however please consider this; Viruses and bacteria are living material and by definition remain too unpredictable for bio-engineering efforts or filthy rich control freaks, hereafter CF’s, to use as a tool for any special interest(s). Let us just for the moment set aside specific designations such as Neo-Con or Zionist, by avoiding the practice of compartmentalization, it will clear the air and hopefully help readers to arrive at my conclusion(s).

    The CFs wrongly assumed that technocracy, coupled with the latest spying tools would capture the world thus subjecting every country and culture to their domination. This fantasy is an idea almost as “old as the hills” It reinforces my belief that the CF’s never bothered to sit through any one of Ian Fleming’s movies. For example; Dr.NO, where a snide remark was delivered by 007, in reply to the evil DR. NO… so you want “world domination” This phrase was topped off with a sarcastic countenance that only Sean Connery could pull off…(a bit of levity is necessary here)

    The CF’s behave like immature children when it comes to comprehending a single aspect of human nature, the tighter they grasp, the more grains (proles) slip through their fingers.

    Now to my point, RNA viruses represent the best example of what can never be deliberately transformed as a weapon or threat to control a potential adversary. All corona-viruses are included in the RNA class or group. In the natural environment they frequently evolve with a mutation rate over one million times faster that human DNA. Bio-warfare experts are unnecessary here and explains why the Italian COVID-19 is genetically distinct from the Wuhan version.

    For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Oh! all you CF’s out there, are you beginning to understand what true complexity is? Please do not begin to ponder taking some DNA plasmid engineering project off the shelf in the hopes of conjuring up a some ethnic bio-bomb. The unforeseen reaction, again by the natural environment, may include a sudden change in structural genes that will unleash the expression of some heretofore previously unknown gene(s). World domination eh? yes, probably by the unbeatable cockroach! LOL `

    • Replies: @FB
  414. FB says: • Website
    @Issar

    At the 9:50 mark of the first video that little harpy says…

    …as we move forward trust in the pharmaceutical industry and government is going to be very important…

    No doubt…other pinheads there are all up in arms about ‘conspiracy theories’…’misinformation’…and ‘disinformation’ being spread on social media…

    Social media platforms are encouraged to e more like ‘broadcasters’ and provide ‘accurate information’…instead of being simply a technology platform…other little fascists here urge that the government must crack down on ‘fake news’…

    Now…regardless of this whole coronavirus thing, which may or may not prove to be a real health problem, this video is incredibly insightful viewing simply to get an insight into how these globohomo fascists think…the world view they express here is incredibly frightening…they are like stupid little bots that believe their own koolaid…

    If only we had a Stalin today to round up these assholes and stick them in Gulags…

  415. bjondo says:
    @aandrews

    Michael Osterholm, points to pangolin as the origin. Pangolins are on the Red List of Threatened Species, threatened with extinction, yet they’re evidently highly sought after as a folk remedy in China.

    Pangolins? Not crappy bat soup?

    Damn,

    here I am, well protected, in my converted missile silo from soggy-from-soup bats.

    Slower than truth from a NeoLibCon, Pangolins don’t scare me none and Ft Det-19 critters can’t jump all that far.

    Michael Osterholm? Is that long for BS?

    5 dancing shlomos

  416. FB says: • Website
    @Issar

    And one more thing…at about 14:50 of the first video they talk about this new coronavirus ‘CAPS’ having a 10 percent death rate, about the same as SARS and two to four times higher than the Spanish flu that killed 50 million people worldwide…

    Now I had already mentioned this upthread, but actual virologists will tell you that ten percent is way too high a death rate for the virus to be successful…a virus is not really a living organism…it is really bits of chemical [RNA in the case of coronaviruses]…the only way a virus can replicate is inside of a living cell…

    If they kill that host too quickly and easily they cannot replicate or spread…

    [Viruses] that kill off their host quickly will disappear. With the SARS virus, it’s no surprise that killing 10 percent of its host, it wasn’t able to establish itself as a pandemic virus on this planet.

    –Dennis Carroll, leading virologist

    Now it is absolutely astounding to me that these so-called experts…the best that Bill Gates’ billions could buy…go and put on this extravaganza ‘exercise’…yet one of their most fundamental assumptions about how viruses work is completely ignorant of BASIC SCIENTIFIC FACTS…

    And these are the people that we should trust as to what is ‘disinformation’…?

    PS…thanks again for this video…do you have a link…?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Issar
  417. Amanda says:

    Please read this article:

    The Coronavirus COVID-19 Pandemic: The Real Danger is “Agenda ID2020”
    What is the infamous ID2020?
    It is an alliance of public-private partners, including UN agencies and civil society. It’s an electronic ID program that uses generalized vaccination as a platform for digital identity.

    By Peter Koenig

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/coronavirus-causes-effects-real-danger-agenda-id2020/5706153

    [MORE]

    It seems, the more there is written about the causes of the Coronavirus – the more the written analyses are overshadowed by a propaganda and fear-mongering hype. Questions for the truth and arguments for where to look for the origins and how the virus may have spread and how to combat it, are lost in the noise of wanton chaos. But isn’t that what the “Black Men” behind this intended pandemic want – chaos, panic, hopelessness, leading to human vulnerability – a people becoming easy prey for manipulation?

    Today WHO declared the coronavirus COVID-19 a “pandemic” – when there is not the slightest trace of a pandemic. A pandemic might be the condition, when the death to infection rate reaches more than 12%. In Europe, the death rate is about 0.4%, or less. Except for Italy which is a special case, where the peak of the death rate was 6% (see below for further analysis).

    WHO has most likely received orders from “above”, from those people who also manage Trump and the “leaders” (sic) of the European Union and her member countries, those who aim to control the world with force – the One World Order.

    This has been on the drawing board for years. The final decision to go ahead NOW, was taken in January 2020 at the World Economic Forum (WEF) in Davos – behind very much closed doors, of course. The Gates, GAVI (an association of vaccination-promoting pharmaceuticals), Rockefellers, Rothschilds et al, they are all behind this decision – the implementation of Agenda ID2020 – see below.

    After the pandemic has been officially declared, the next step may be – also at the recommendation either by WHO, or individual countries, “force vaccination”, under police and/or military surveillance. Those who refuse may be penalized (fines and / or jail – and force-vaccinated all the same).

    If indeed force-vaccination will happen, another bonanza for Big Pharma, people really don’t know what type of cocktail will be put into the vaccine, maybe a slow killer, that acts-up only in a few years – or a disease that hits only the next generation – or a brain debilitating agent, or a gene that renders women infertile …. all is possible – always with the aim of full population control and population reduction. In a few years’ time, one doesn’t know, of course, where the disease comes from. That’s the level of technology our bio-war labs have reached (US, UK, Israel, Canada, Australia…).

    Another hypothesis, at this point only a hypothesis, but a realistic one, is that along with the vaccination – if not with this one, then possibly with a later one, a nano-chip may be injected, unknown to the person being vaccinated. The chip may be remotely charged with all your personal data, including bank accounts – digital money. Yes, digital money that’s what “they” are aiming at, so you really have no control any more over your health and other intimate data, but also over your earnings and spending. Your money could be blocked, or taken away – as a ‘sanction’ for misbehavior, for swimming against the stream. You may become a mere slave of the masters. Comparatively, feudalism may appear like a walk in the park

  418. Incitatus says:
    @Ron Unz

    “Well, first of all there’s no solid evidence that the Coronavirus outbreak was a biowarfare attack, and there may never be…”

    Ah, come’on Ron. You post this garbage just so you can parachute in an opportune ant-farm moment to save loyal ants in sweet Jovian intersession. What a guy! What a God! Shine, shine, shine!!!!

    All with the backing of the tax exempt/subsidized 501c3 ‘Unz Foundation‘ 555 Bryant St, Palo Alto CA. Just like favorite CIA pensioner tax exempt/subsidized 501c3 Swamp-Creature Dr. Phil Giraldi).

    You guys really should instruct your readers how they can get a tax break for their opinions. Shouldn’t each be a 501c3 ‘educational foundation’ that grants no degrees? Don’t you feel guilty not telling them?

    Is patriotism tax evasion? Innocent question.

    Don’t worry. Not holding my breath.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  419. Amanda says:

    Please watch these vids. I hope this guy is wrong, but I’m starting to wonder if they are setting us up for some kind of Ukrainian Holodomor.

    “We Have No Food for You” – Insiders on Food Supply Shortages

    at 12 min, he’s reading the covid response team (screw you while we bring in the NWO team) document, and it seems to sound like they are saying they have to keep these interventions (he thinks the mean lockdown) for 18 months until a vaccine becomes available.

    ALERT: Feds Take Control of Food/Trucking as Grocers UNABLE to Get Food

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-virus-plan-anticipates-18-month-pandemic-and-widespread-shortages/ar-BB11ktjA

    Amazing Polly warns about ID2020 (digital ID in vaccines) at 18 min:

    Lynnette Zang warns about central bankers new crypto currency here:
    https://steemit.com/money/@sgtreport/breaking-bankers-new-sdr-crypto-blockchain-will-enslave-humanity-lynette-zang
    Reply

  420. FB says: • Website
    @elmerfudzie

    Viruses and bacteria are living material and by definition remain too unpredictable for bio-engineering efforts or filthy rich control freaks…

    WRONG…

    Bacteria are living organisms but viruses are not…

    Also it is widely known that it is quite easy to modify the genetic material in viruses, as this NYT article from eight years ago noted…

    Scientists have long worried that an influenza virus that has ravaged poultry and wild birds in Asia might evolve to pose a threat to humans. Now scientists financed by the National Institutes of Health have shown in a laboratory how that could happen.

    In the process they created a virus that could kill tens or hundreds of millions of people if it escaped confinement or was stolen by terrorists.

    An Engineered Doomsday, Jan 7, 2012

  421. @anon

    Bears Stearns murder was the ‘outside pressure’ required for the task.

    RW

  422. Amanda says:

    Coronavirus End Game: The Economic Crisis & Roll Out of the New Digital Financial System

  423. Antiwar7 says:
    @FB

    “The interesting thing here is not the silly editorializing itself” [no shit, genius]
    “but the fact that it was relatively easy to tweak the genetics of that bird virus to make it transmissible to humans.”

    Exactly.

    Anyway, there are at least three separate questions of interest:

    1) Was SARS-CoV-2 engineered or naturally occurring?
    2) If it was engineered, who did it?
    3) Whether it was engineered or not, did someone disperse it intentionally?

  424. @Robjil

    “This is a second 9-11”

    Very much so. And they’re connected in many ways, one of which has to do with
    the fact that:
    The first one, “TERROR virus”, was born on September 11 2001,
    The second, “FEAR virus” – on December 31 2019 (according to the same WHO).
    Now combining both:
    The sum of two dates: “September 11 2001 + December 31 2019″=322;
    A bit more specifics gives:
    “September 11 2001, terror virus + “December 31 2019, fear virus”=1776(Sat);
    Finally, adding the missing link between both + “Black Sun (Saturn)”=2442(Sat);

    One interesting proverb related to wolves comes to mind, but I’ll withhold it for
    now. lol)

    • Replies: @Robjil
  425. Anon[544] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tsigantes

    In 2015 the sale to Costco of pier 2 went through; Piraeus has become the busiest port of the Mediterranean.

    The port was leased, not saled.

    And it is not Costco.

  426. @Incitatus

    Is that all you’ve got to add here? I think many would agree that both Ron Unz and Phillip Giraldi are performing a valuable public service, unlike yourself who at your very finest only comes here to spew your disingenuous barfing.

    What more can anyone expect from Incitatus the Disingenuous Old Queen? The very same Incitatus who once tried to cite the instance of a fire damaged reinforced-concrete building as a valid comparison to the downing of the Twin Towers whilst simultaneously claiming to be a builder of high-rise buildings himself.

    Is life getting a bit boring for you now that your local gay bars are all closed?

    • Replies: @FB
  427. FB,

    About Ioffe being a Jew- not all Jews perpetrate or cover up the plots of their tribe and some may even expose them. We even have a few on UR, not to mention their greatest critic, Bobby Fischer.

    The way you explain the development of science is essentially correct, but we also know there are ethical and non-ethical ways of pursuing it. Sure Jews aren’t the only ones who plagiarise – in today’s world of science publishing I think Indians lead the pack.

  428. Anonymous[210] • Disclaimer says:
    @FB

    Now I had already mentioned this upthread, but actual virologists will tell you that ten percent is way too high a death rate for the virus to be successful

    That’s wrong. High mortality rate and the speed of killing the patient (between initial infection and death) are two different things. The ultimate killer virus would have 100% mortality rate but extremely long (months) lead-in period of no symptoms and high infectiousness.

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Replies: @FB
  429. @Antiwar7

    Thanks. I was only asking a question. And I certainly don’t agree with that author’s rabid anti-China bias.

    I know. It was obvious to me what you were doing. No need to apologize at all.

    Not that it’s anything peculiar for many posters here, but it appears that quite a few of them have become less than congenial lately. I suppose that’s to be expected for people who have become accustomed to what they can no longer enjoy, compelled to social distancing. Loss of income is another big test. If they think it’s difficult now, well … Let’s just say we’re going to have to approach the near future with a lot more patience than we may be used to.

    And yes, habits will have to change, especially those of conduct. High blood pressure may end up killing more than CV itself.

    • Thanks: Antiwar7
    • Replies: @refl
  430. Issar says:
    @Kurt Nimmo

    Kim Iversen Debunks the New Plague

  431. Issar says:
    @FB

    Thanks for that info. I’ve gone through a process trying to understand what is going on. At this point they’re throwing everyone out of work and locking down NYC. They are demolishing the U.S. economy. I’ve concluded that this is a coup d’etat and the greatest psychological warfare project ever conducted. Here’s Kim Iversen Debunking the New Plague.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @FB
  432. The WW2 Jewish Holocaust and the WHO’s CV declaration of a public health emergency …

    Haaretz : The first Holocaust Remembrance Day
    https://www.haaretz.com/the-history-of-holocaust-remembrance-day-1.5246317

    “The first Holocaust Remembrance Day took place on December 28th, 1949, a year-and-a-half after Israel’s independence. ”

    *

    WHO Director-General’s statement on IHR Emergency Committee on Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV)
    https://www.who.int/dg/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-statement-on-ihr-emergency-committee-on-novel-coronavirus-(2019-ncov)

    30 January 2020

    “For all of these reasons, I am declaring a public health emergency of international concern over the global outbreak of novel coronavirus.”

    *

    From The first Holocaust Remembrance Day on December 28, 1949

    to the WHO Declaration of the coronavirus global health emergency on January 30, 2020

    = 666 months, 666 weeks, 666 days

    https://www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadded.html?d1=28&m1=12&y1=1949&type=add&ay=&am=666&aw=666&ad=666&rec=

    MG

    • Replies: @Trinity
  433. Chinaman says:
    @refl

    Next thing they will send their battleships up the Thames, set Westminster on fire and bully the Queen into signing a treaty to forcefeed Chinese made drugs to all of Europe.

    You must be referring to the Nanking treaty and the Opiums wars where these British pimps was pushing drugs on the Chinese and launch a turf war ( like any drug dealer would do) on China when the Chinese government tried to stop the trade. It was the ultimate humiliation and this would be Rightful payback.

    We are indeed quite amused when we heard about that herd immunity concept. This was an wake up call for all the race traitors Chinks in the west who turn their back on their countries. They are escaping zombie land now.

    We should send the gunboats now loaded with medical supplies and masks and throw them on the streets and watch Londoners fight each other for them as they would for toilet paper. It would be a interesting sight.

    • Agree: Tor597
  434. Robjil says:
    @AB_Anonymous

    I never get into the adding game. Anything can be added up.

    Zionists never show off with number adding. They may do it, but they don’t brag about doing it.

    [MORE]

    It is simpler than that.

    Purim is one of the big brags.

    Every Purim I wonder what will they do this Purim?

    We got our answer this Purim. Coronavirus – 9-11 part II.

    Purim, the three days fest, was March 9-11. Queen Esther fast March 9, Purim day March 10, walled Purim day ( Jerusalem the main walled city) March 11

    Every since March 11th, Coronavirus has be ramped up to extreme heights in our Zion Macht Frei western press.

    It is so obvious.

    Last Purim, all Nethie got was Golan Heights. I wish the Purim gift this year was small like last years. It is not case, sadly for our planet.

    https://www.algemeiner.com/2019/03/24/president-trumps-purim-gift/

    Nearly forty years ago, Prime Minister Menachem Begin canceled Israeli military rule over the Golan Heights, replacing it with Israeli law. It was a prescient decision, now enhanced by President Trump. And the day of his announcement — appropriately — was Purim. As Israeli journalist Boaz Bismuth wrote: on the very day when, according to the Book of Esther, “The Jews had light and gladness and joy and honor,” President Trump bestowed the “wonderful gift” of recognizing the Golan Heights as part of Israel.

    • Agree: Desert Fox
    • Replies: @AB_Anonymous
  435. FB says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    Sure ‘anonymous’ nobody…

    So leading virologists like Dennis Carroll are don’t actually know anything…and some illiterate internet twerp knows better…?

    The ultimate killer virus would have 100% mortality rate but extremely long (months) lead-in period of no symptoms and high infectiousness.

    What the fuck is a ‘lead-in period’…?

    Translation…’I’m a retarded moron that doesn’t know diddly…’which is why I use meaningless terms like “lead-in period” instead of basic technical language like “incubation period”…’

    If you knew even the very first thing about viruses you would realize that that kind of contradictory virus is a physical impossibility…

    Viruses are NOT living organisms…they do not have the life machinery of a living cell, which has processes for using energy and replicating itself…in order for a virus to replicate it has to enter into a host cell in a living organism…if it kills that living organism too quickly, or at too high a rate, the virus will obviously not be able to spread…

    Any living organism has an immune response to viruses, where viruses are attacked and destroyed by antibodies…so your nonsense about a virus lying dormant inside the host for ‘months’ and then deciding much later to kill its host is a physical impossibility…that’s simply not how these things work…

    So much for your ‘lead-in’ period, moron…

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  436. Corvinus says:
    @Sasha

    “Maybe, but my take is an engineered market crash”.

    So you are guessing here. Where is your specific evidence that Covid-19 was hatched by the Rothschild’s and that this strain targets the social burden?

    “We are now experiencing 911-2B, the coronavirus black swan. Just as 9/11 terrorized, shocked, and shut down the USA for a few days, it seems that Covid-19 will do the same, only more so.”

    An argument based on a false premise.

    If Mr. Sailer says that this crisis is real, why should we not believe him? Is he then suddenly part of this Zionist conspiracy?

    • Troll: Sasha
    • Replies: @Sasha
  437. Corvinus says:
    @Issar

    “I’ve concluded that this is a coup d’etat and the greatest psychological warfare project ever conducted.”

    Based on what specific documented evidence? You’re making a wild generalization here.

    Remember, Kim Iverson is NOT a medical professional. Rather, she is taking studies and making HER own conclusions. For example, she said there were 81,000 cases in China. Out of 1.3 billion people, .006a% ended up with Covid-19. True facts. However, she failed to consider the context that the efforts made by the Chinese government that mitigated its spread. It was anticipated that WITHOUT intervention, there would be up to 70 percent of the population affected. So she is other than being accurate. She says the “numbers don’t lie”, but that is without the proper context. Remember, she is NOT a medical expert, so we have to take her “analysis” with a grain of salt.

    • Replies: @Issar
  438. FB says: • Website
    @Issar

    I’ve concluded that this is a coup d’etat and the greatest psychological warfare project ever conducted.

    Yes…it’s beginning to look that way to me too…

    Anybody can go and use the internet to read up and educate themselves on basic information about viruses and for instance the Spanish Flu…which killed mostly YOUNG people in the 20 to 40 year-old bracket…

    It had a mortality rate of at most two percent, which is why it was able to spread and infect about half of the entire world population…

    What we have here with this corona is that a lot of already-sick people are dying…old people die not because they are old but because they have developed some illness…so there is a lot of ‘fog’ right now with trying to understand even the numbers that are coming out…for instance the seemingly high number of deaths in Italy…

    This entire lockdown in the US and other western countries seems quite counterproductive…they are trying to do what China did, but without the health care resources that China has…the US is going to be exposed as basically the third-world country that it is when it comes to health care…

    How come Cuba is not in lockdown…21 people infected…one death…

    Someone pointed out earlier that Germany has five times the number of intensive care beds as Italy, which would go a long way in explaining some of the number discrepancy…plus the fact that the numbers being bandied about by completely science-illiterate media and various ‘biosecurity’ technocrats may simply be based on inadequate data and faulty interpretation of what scant data there is right now…

    There is no testing for the most part…so how can we even know anything…?

    All of this is not surprising in the least…we can assume with near certainty only one thing right now…that our ruling class are proven liars for as long as we can remember…and that they are also criminally incompetent…these facts are beyond dispute…

    Combine that with a nearly scientifically illiterate population, and you have the recipe for mass hysteria…

    I’d like to see some of the morons spouting off here take this basic science quiz from Pew…

  439. Trinity says:
    @Mark Gobell

    Damn the person that figured that one out had more time on their hands than me that is for sure.

    So it is 666 months, 666 weeks, 666 days from the Holohoax Remembrance Day on December 28, 1949 to the WHO Declaration of the coronavirus global health emergency. Hmm, yet another COHENcidence along with the 666 deal with D-Day. Everyone remember D-Day, that is the event in history where your teacher taught us that Americans saved the entire world from the most evil man and people to ever walk the face of the earth, Hitler and those “Nazis.” Hmm, speaking of 666, will the Star of David be the symbol for the Anti-Christ? Accordingly the King James Study Bible suggests the Anti-Christ will be Jewish. Numbers do mean something to (((these people))), particularly the number 6 it seems. What a strange lot.

    Is the Donald Trump Pony Show in on this “event” as well? I mean Trump keeps defiantly calling this thing the “China Virus” dividing the Ameritard public and having the patriotard non-PC crowd boldly parroting Trump’s line vs. the leftoid anti-White retards who claim to be anti-racist denouncing the term as “racist.” Of course with all the focus on Trump’s “racist” term, the “China Flu” and/or “Chinese Flu”, despite which side of the coin you are fighting your neighbor over, there is no doubt among the leftoid tards and the patriotards that this disease came from bats, rats, or a Chinese goldfish over in China. smdh.

    Another poster brought up the question that IF Trump knew the virus had started in Israel or if Israel was responsible for spreading the virus ( imagine that, we know Israel would NEVER do such a thing, not our beloved Israel) would Trump and the patriotards call the virus names like the “Jew Flu,” Matzo Ball Crud, the Ziovirus, etc.? teehee. Hell, we know that had Israel been responsible for this sort of thing that Trump and the patriotards would not only not mention a thing about the virus or its origins in the Holy Land, but they would probably look to blame it on a traditional enemy of America or some other country, anyone besides our bestest best friend forever and ever, Amen. Hey, wait a minute. You don’t think? Nah, that is just a “conspiracy theory” put out by a bunch of loony 9-11 troofers, auntie-Semites, and uneducated racists.

    • Replies: @Mark Gobell
  440. Meimou says:
    @Polemos

    1984 also implied that Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia work together. It is quite possible that the Anglo Zionist and Chinese elite are working together.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  441. Mark Gobell says: • Website
    @Trinity

    Assembling the event data takes a long time, a lot of effort and commitment. But like any such endeavour, the rewards are proportional. The software analysis only takes a few minutes, when you have the tools and the event data.

    Introduction
    https://www.whataboutthewhen.com/introduction.html

    Hmm, speaking of 666, will the Star of David be the symbol for the Anti-Christ? Accordingly the King James Study Bible suggests the Anti-Christ will be Jewish. Numbers do mean something to (((these people))), particularly the number 6 it seems. What a strange lot.

    The Number 37 and the Triplets 111 to 999
    https://www.whataboutthewhen.com/the_number_37_and_triplets_111_to_999.html

    37 is also the number of the first proper Star of David.

    The number 37 : Israel’s Declaration of Independence : 37 signatories

    37 and the Star of David

    666 and the Star of David

    MG

    • Replies: @Trinity
  442. Alfred says:
    @Twodees Partain

    No, I mean “Stop trying to fix the blame. Fix the problem”

    How can a doctor, for example, prescribe medication without carrying out a diagnosis?

    • Replies: @SBaker
  443. pepa65 says:

    Not sure if this has been suggested (with so many comments already having been posted), but the scenario where Covid-19 was used as biological warfare might be an opportunistic reaction to an accident at Ft.Detrick: Some got out, started infecting people, and they came up with this “cover up” solution that would hit China first, Iran next, while they knew the US was already infected (which was covered up as death-by-eCigarattes and other labels) so it didn’t matter that it might boomerang back. It was inevitably going to get out of hand, so why not make the best of it, attacking enemies and deflecting the excruciating blame. That is why the blame is now so important, both by US officials “in the know” and by the Chinese officials who know for sure that this was intentional biological warfare.

    • Agree: Chinaman
    • Thanks: Iris
  444. FB says: • Website
    @NoseytheDuke

    I think many would agree that both Ron Unz and Phillip Giraldi are performing a valuable public service…

    Ron Unz says a lot of things…but what is the actual purpose of the ‘information’ he puts out here…?

    Just today the banner story on this website has a headline that touts the ‘China Virus’…

    Are you familiar with the story of Paul Benewitz…?

    He was an air force vet and physicist who developed a successful high tech radio-electronics business in New Mexico…he became interested in UFOs after observing some strange sights at the nearby Kirtland air force base…used his high tech equipment to capture various radio signals and visuals from the base and made the mistake of contacting them for ‘information’…

    Their ‘intel’ people, figuring that they needed to do something about this guy’s eavesdropping started an elaborate psyop, feeding him info about nonexistent UFO stuff that was supposedly going on at the base, and even staging elaborate hoaxes, including unexplained cattle mutilations on nearby ranches…all to drive the guy nuts which they eventually did…

    Oh, and there was also a top secret nuclear site in nearby Dulce, New Mexico where these govt geniuses came up with an idea to detonate a nuclear bomb under the mountain in order to get at the natural gas deposits…yeah…that’s how smart these guys are…only later finding out that the gas was unusable due to radioactive contamination…look up project gasbuggy…

    Some interesting information on this doc…

    • Troll: Trinity
  445. SBaker says:
    @peacenik

    Too many people here pretending to be microbiologists. There are hundreds of corona viruses across dozens of species of humans and animals. Human coronaviruses were first identified in the mid-1960s. More than 60% of human pathogens are zoonotic in origin. Coronaviruses are named for the crown-like spikes on their surface. There are four main sub-groupings of coronaviruses, known as alpha, beta, gamma, and delta.

    Common human coronaviruses
    229E (alpha coronavirus)
    NL63 (alpha coronavirus)
    OC43 (beta coronavirus)
    HKU1 (beta coronavirus)
    Other human coronaviruses
    MERS-CoV (the beta coronavirus that causes Middle East Respiratory Syndrome, or MERS)
    SARS-CoV (the beta coronavirus that causes severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS)
    SARS-CoV-2 (the novel coronavirus that causes coronavirus disease 2019, or COVID-19)
    People around the world commonly get infected with human coronaviruses 229E, NL63, OC43, and HKU1.

    Sometimes coronaviruses that infect animals can evolve and make people sick and become a new human coronavirus. Three recent examples of this are 2019-nCoV, SARS-CoV, and MERS-CoV.

    • Replies: @FB
  446. Trinity says:
    @Mark Gobell

    Tanks for the links and the 411, Mr. Gobell. Interesting.

  447. SBaker says:
    @Alfred

    Doctors often make what is called a clinical diagnosis. I hope this helps you in practice doc.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  448. Anonymous[304] • Disclaimer says:
    @FB

    Wrong again. Spanish Flu had a 10-20% mortality rate so your claim that “ten percent is way too high a death rate for the virus to be successful” simply doesn’t fit the facts. BTW, please use “mortality rate” instead of “death rate” next time. That’s how real experts talk. 🙂

    https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/12/1/05-0979_article

    An estimated one third of the world’s population (or ≈500 million persons) were infected and had clinically apparent illnesses (1,2) during the 1918–1919 influenza pandemic. The disease was exceptionally severe. Case-fatality rates were >2.5%, compared to <0.1% in other influenza pandemics (3,4). Total deaths were estimated at ≈50 million (5–7) and were arguably as high as 100 million (7).

    Interestingly enough, it looks like someone has started changing those official numbers very recently:

    Wikipedia Slashes Spanish Flu Death Rate

    Worse still, the WHO is the only source we have found so far that claims a death toll of 20 million. Most sources, such as the CDC (and see here), broadly agree that between 50 million and 100 million people died of the Spanish Flu (although one recent study wildly differs, see below). In order for 50-100 million deaths to be 2-3% of total cases there would have had to be 2.5 billion – 5 billion cases.

    Obviously totally impossible.

    • Replies: @FB
  449. SBaker says:
    @John Chuckman

    “Here is an intriguing item about other, earlier bio-weapon work:

    https://alethonews.com/2014/10/23/secret-project-created-weaponized-ebola-in-south-africa-in-the-1980s/&#8221;

    Wow, a secret project now published on a secret Internet site. Very impressive since the first verified Ebola outbreak in humans was in 1976. The origin was zoonotic.

  450. FB says: • Website
    @SBaker

    Do you actually have a point, other than the one on the top of your head…?

    Your ‘insights’ about corona viruses have already been discussed here, and in a much more relevant manner…and all of this basic information about viruses is readily available and people should look it up…

    As for your statement about most pathogens being zoonotic in origin…that doesn’t mean that viruses aren’t genetically modified in lab experiments the world over…they most certainly are…

    And bafflegab about zoonotic origin doesn’t mean that viruses or other pathogens cannot be released from such labs accidentally, or even on purpose…they most certainly can…

    Ie your ‘information’ means diddly squat…

    And btw…since you presume to lecture others here, without actually having any specialist knowledge or qualifications on the subject yourself…why don’t you go and take that science quiz I linked to earlier and tell us how you did…hmm…?

  451. Anonymous[304] • Disclaimer says:
    @Meimou

    It is quite possible that the Anglo Zionist and Chinese elite are working together.

    I don’t think so. If that were the case, we’d already be fully introduced to the One World Government NWO and very tiny cages or death.

  452. Sasha says:
    @Corvinus

    That’s right Mr. Coronavirus – I’m, guessing, which is the usual process involved when somebody says “My take on it is…” It’s an educated guess based on historical precedents, current events, the way they’re playing out, etc. But you’re not, guessing, you have absolute truth on your side, eh? We’ll see who’s proceeding from false premises soon enough.

  453. Alfred says:
    @SBaker

    Doctors often make what is called a clinical diagnosis

    Precisely Dr Watson. 🙂

    Your moniker refers to 221B Baker Street presumably.

    • LOL: FB
  454. FB says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    Wrong again. Spanish Flu had a 10-20% mortality rate…

    Look PEABRAIN…this is the last of my wasting time with you…your own link and even the exact citation says 2.5 percent…not 10 to 20 percent…

    Do you not know how to read…this is what you just excerpted from that CDC link in your above post…

    The disease was exceptionally severe. Case-fatality rates were >2.5%, compared to <0.1% in other influenza pandemics.

    And then you link to retard supremo ‘Zero Hedge’ who makes a big deal out of wikipedia edits…neither wikipedia nor Tyler Durden are qualified virologists…and wikipedia can be edited by anybody, even by retards like yourself…STOP WASTING MY TIME…

    I really suggest you take the science quiz and find out for yourself just how stupid you are…[I would put your IQ at about 60…]

    • Troll: Trinity
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  455. utu says:
    @pepa65

    Your theory while interesting has flaws. Since Ft. Detrick closure the virus in the US should have been everywhere. How could they cover up that extensive epidemic? If the answer is that the disease is not really severe so it is easy to ignore it then the question is why then they wanted to introduce it to China. What if China ignored the disease also instead of going medieval on it; what good would it do? Somehow, somebody must have mislead and convinced Chinese that they were under serious bioweapon attack while all they had was pretty innocuous virus that America had since the Ft. Detrick closure without anybody noticing it. If China did not jump the gun there would be no world pandemic in the media.

    So basically your theory while neat hinges on assumption that the disease is mild and ignorable so the epidemic is the media event resulting from an overreaction by Chinese and possibly some psy-op by the US.

    Nevertheless I am not dismissing your theory entirely because we need some theory to tie up the bioweapon attack against China and Iran with the blowback in the West. Ron Unz seems to be comfortable with the assumption that the perpetrators were just stupid enough to not foresee the consequences of the epidemic in the West (*) but I do not underestimate them that much so I think there was the plan for what we are seeing now.

    (*) I could imagine that only an Israeli, perhaps a semi rogue, outfit could fit Ron Unz’s scenario of perpetrators who do not care for the consequence outside of their narrow scope of interest. Then we should consider that Tehran was the main primary target and China was a decoy and a scrap from the table tossed to the Bannonites in America. Finally what would be the role of Italy where Bannon had much following and was planning to set up his world headquarter there? I would agree with Malcolm-brother (see above):

    “the value of the attack for this particular case does not lie in the attack itself. The goal is the propaganda that can be generated from the attack, i.e. the propaganda value. “

    Italy was needed to whip fear and and hysteria which will translate into global anti-Chinese sentiments, exactly what Bannonites wanted. No amount of efforts (rather inept imo) of Chinese counter-propaganda will change it. Go to Sailer or Cochran blogs and see where the ‘hearts and minds’ (providing they have hearts) are of their sycophants and aficionados.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Iris
    , @Mario Partisan
  456. @Robjil

    [Too much numerology nonsense. Comments along these lines will be trashed.]

    • Replies: @AB_Anonymous
  457. Ron Unz says:
    @utu

    Ron Unz seems to be comfortable with the assumption that the perpetrators were just stupid enough to not foresee the consequences of the epidemic in the West (*) but I do not underestimate them that much

    Well, didn’t Trump and the top people around him in politics and FoxNews spend two months doing nothing and saying “Don’t worry, it’s just the flu!” Assuming the disaster in the US and Europe is as bad as it now seems, doesn’t that make them look really stupid and incompetent? Maybe their “clever plan” was to deliberately look stupid and incompetent, but then it’s too clever for me.

    So the alternative is that they really are stupid and incompetent. And if they’re so stupid and incompetent, is it so impossible to believe that the Deep State Neocons who were probably behind a possible biowarfare attack are also kind of stupid and incompetent?

    • Replies: @utu
  458. Anonymous[304] • Disclaimer says:
    @FB

    >2.5%,

    Hilarious. That’s a “greater-than” symbol and the actual numbers are included: 50-100 million deaths out of 500 million infected. That’s, believe it or not, a 10-20% mortality rate which is also “>2.5%”. The other article also contains another link to the National Center for Biotechnology Information confirming those numbers.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20200211010821/https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK22148/

    You’re probably the only person in this thread who believes that a virus can’t spread efficiently unless – at the end of its own life – it spares at least 97% infected and leaves them immune. LOL!

    • Replies: @FB
  459. @AB_Anonymous

    Good luck to you too fighting approaching NWO without understanding the difference
    between numerology and gematria. Unless it’s just an imitation of fight, of course.

  460. Trinity says:

    I HAVE A CURE FOR CORONAVIRUS. STOP THE PRESSES.

    Nah, I just have a suggestion. Unless you are very old, in very poor health, or some nasty f*ck that doesn’t wash his or her hands or maybe some pervert that is always grabbing and touching people like Creepy Joe Biden, just go out and live a relatively normal life. Sure , take precautions, obviously people out there are dying and that is very real, whether we are hearing the truth, the stats are being fudged ( you can bet that they are) or whatever the case, you can totally buy into the belief that they are blowing this thing up for some reason or the other. Definitely people in those old school, high density Eastern Seaboard cities like NYC, Philly, Baltimore, Boston, with streets lined with row house after row house, have more to be worried about. I guess good ole flyover country has its advantages, huh? I have to check on super crowded places like India, wonder how it is going over there.? India is super crowded and nasty as hell, so that has to be a breeding ground for something like this disease. I have to wonder when or IF this thing passes, how it will be looked back on and remembered. Diseases and/or plagues have infected people throughout the ages but nowadays with world travel and all, could this potentially be the mother of all diseases and/or plagues, or could it peter out and be an afterthought after the 2020 election?

  461. utu says:
    @Ron Unz

    I have no problem with imagining that the old Russian concept of good Tsar and bad boyars applies here where ‘good’ may mean stupid and naive. IMO, Trump and his immediate circle were not in the know. They were all gleeful about troubles in China and were hoping it would be worse for China but then came Iran and Italy. While Iran troubles brought more Schadenfreude from the neocon circles Italy served as a wake up call. A call to arms that the Chinese germ is attacking us, the good people which was particularly important because China was already on the way of quashing the epidemic. Italy was important to whip up the anti-Chinese sentiments which is what you want when you are conducting the war because nothing works better than fear. If Trump tomorrow made a statement that we would punish China by any mean necessary for unleashing the 21st century plague against the world, I think, the majority of Americans would support it. We have a culprit and our hands are clean. Nobody will wonder about how the virus got to Iran. And Israel may become the savior and benefactor of humanity by producing the vaccine. Israel, Jonas Salk, among the nations.

  462. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @pepa65

    This same scenario did cross my mind, and I find it actually very plausible.

    A bio-weapon was released from Fort Detrick, MD or some other American biological warfare lab. It started circulating in the general American population.

    But it wasn’t the only disease out there. The “Ft. Detrick Virus”, if you will, joined the seasonal Flu. At first, Flu and Virus could be conflated under the same heading, Flu.

    But, it was a matter of time before alert doctors, investigative journalists or even unusually diligent loved-ones of deceased patients, would detect the existence of the Virus in the over-all noise of the statistics.

    At that point, specific testing would begin, and then the scandal (and sleuthing) would go world-wide, as national healthcare systems would be on the lookout for the new (novel) Corona-virus. Eventually, the trail of clues would lead back to the United States biological weapons program.

    So a plan was hatched. Unlike the natural spread of the Corona-virus in the U.S., concentrated virus samples would be deliberately brought to China and a comparatively massive pandemic would be triggered there.

    That was the whole point, that the Corona-virus be seen to be clustered in China before anywhere else, certainly before anywhere in the U.S. or the general “West”. That keeps too many questions being asked about the “Ft. Detrick contagion”. All eyes would be on Wuhan.

    In fact, the perpetrators probably expected the Chinese to be their usual hyper-draconian selves, and react to contain the virus. If the virus had stayed in China, it would still have been used to demonize China, as actually happened, and any (detected) instances in the rest of the world could be explained away as simply “some cases leaking through”.

    However it would turn out, it would be an unadulterated win for the madmen.

    A) It stays in China, good – the Chinese are both disgusting (wet markets) and/or incompetent (leak from their bio-lab) . Hurting China is greatly desired, but not essential.
    B) It comes back here, even better – still China’s fault, plus we can engineer the economic crash and institute the surveillance state, all without triggering social unrest.
    C) As a separate project, a variant of Ft. Detrick Virus would be used against Iran (the great enemy in the Near East) and Italy (the traitor to the Western Alliance) as well.

    What could possibly go wrong?

    • Replies: @Erebus
  463. FB says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    Look IDIOT…

    What part of don’t waste my time do you not understand…?

    A ‘greater than’ 2.5 percent implies NOT greater than 3 percent…since if it was greater than 3 percent it would say 3 percent and NOT 2.5 percent…

    Here are some BASIC FACTS about the Spanish Flu…it happened 100 years ago…and the exact data is sketchy…you would realize that if you actually had a functional brain…

    The figures for deaths cover a huge range, from as low as 17 million to perhaps 50 million or more…same for number of infections…they are only guesstimates…EXACT numbers are not known with any kind of certainty…

    So it is quite retarded to now 100 years later try to use simple arithmetic to try to fix some kind of EXACT death rate…2.5 percent is what the experts generally agree on…but again, these numbers are not a SUBSTITUTE for understanding what viruses can and cannot do, and how they actually work…

    This is like a child saying how much horsepower does a jet engine make…?…well jet engines aren’t measured by horsepower, they are measured by thrust…so it is pointless to try to fit a square peg into a round hole…

    What I said about how viruses work is absolutely correct, despite your screaming ‘wrong’ like some retarded tree monkey…

    I cited a leading virologist Dr. Dennis Carroll who explains exactly why a death rate of even 10 percent means that the virus cannot become a pandemic…for the reason that it kills too much…

    Your entire vector of argument is one only a complete numbskull could make, since you are trying to essentially deny the basic premise of how viruses work by some very uncertain numbers from a past epidemic [which also don’t even say what you purport…]

    Here again is the knowledge that this man shares with readers…

    Question…‘Viruses live on a delicate balance, don’t they? They have to be able to thrive without killing their host…’

    Right. The ones that kill off their host quickly will disappear. With the SARS virus, it’s no surprise that killing 10 percent of its host, it wasn’t able to establish itself as a pandemic virus on this planet.

    What part of that don’t you understand dimwit…?

    That’s how viruses work, and if you didn’t have your retarded head stuck up your ass maybe you could make some progress instead of bleating like a sheep…

    Now get lost already…go and take that science quiz and then go ask yourself why you are so mentally challenged…and how you can improve your sorry station on the ladder of intelligent life…

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  464. @ Trinity

    You would think India and Pakistan, both Asiatic countries and both more or less turd world countries would be petri dishes for the stuff. And yet they both have fewer cases than Canada.

    So something is very odd here…………

    • Replies: @Trinity
    , @Ron Unz
  465. Meena says:
    @anon

    You are definitely making sense to those who haven’t heard about Zio plans from the days of Ben Gurion , PNAC document of 2000 and 1996 , 1975 Terrorism summit in Israel , Wolfowotiz plan and advice to get rid of Saddam in 1979 and agin in 1991 , Levys threat to ignite Iraq if US did not in 1990 , have not read the “Green Peril” from Cato Institue or Sharons’s backdoor entry to US power solely for distorting the intelligence

    Nobody went to PNAC . PNAC came to USA straight out of Israel.

  466. Trinity says:
    @Genrick Yagoda

    EXACTLY. That is VERY ODD to say the least.

  467. Ron Unz says:
    @Genrick Yagoda

    You would think India and Pakistan, both Asiatic countries and both more or less turd world countries would be petri dishes for the stuff. And yet they both have fewer cases than Canada.

    Well, Canada has a huge Chinese population, which is almost certainly how it spread there.

    As for South Asia, it’s mostly pretty poor and disorganized, so I doubt the government would notice an initial handful of deaths or serious illnesses among the billion or two living there, many of whom are always dying of various diseases.

    Some people claim that the weather or humidity or something might block its spread. Maybe. But my strong suspicion is that there are already small pockets there, and they’re growing exponentially. So within a month or so, thousands will begin dying there, including from the affluent elites, at which point the local governments will suddenly noticed what had been happening.

    • Replies: @Genrick Yagoda
  468. If your ever speaking in LA, I’d love to meet for coffee. For years I’ve been following you at VT through your articles and podcasts. And, I think you nailed it by conneting today’s events with Rockafeller’s ‘LOCKSTEP’ scenario. Everyone should look deep for the breadcrumbs and follow the trails left by the Philanthropist/Neocons. Your Lockstep link is helpfull, and that’s from 2010. So the information needed to sort the mess out is available. One needs time and determination, that’s all.

  469. refl says:
    @AnonStarter

    Not that it’s anything peculiar for many posters here, but it appears that quite a few of them have become less than congenial lately. I suppose that’s to be expected for people who have become accustomed to what they can no longer enjoy, compelled to social distancing. Loss of income is another big test. If they think it’s difficult now, well … Let’s just say we’re going to have to approach the near future with a lot more patience than we may be used to.

    My take is that the Corona-crisis is a hoax with some ingredients of stuff that somehow happened, which I do not figure out.

    The real story is that it is the opening shot in the Great battle to dismantle the West. How long will the quarantaine be? What businesses will be left? Who will still have an income? What will be the next stages?

    People talk about the German hyperinflation of 1923, but this was a process that started when the currrency was taken off Gold in August 1914 to finance the war, climaxed in 1923, when the US basically took over the German economy and continued right through the rise of the Nazis in the 1930s.
    The country only found peace in the 1950s, when the US and USSR made it the staging ground for their economic competition, which the West famously won. Now the goddies are being withdrawn and the country will be dumped with the average of mankind, which is quite a huge entity with much poverty to share.

  470. Iris says:
    @utu

    Ron Unz seems to be comfortable with the assumption that the perpetrators were just stupid enough to not foresee the consequences of the epidemic in the West (*) but I do not underestimate them that much so I think there was the plan for what we are seeing now.

    To clarify, who exactly would these “perpetrators” be?

    It is reported that President Trump was instructed by his “superiors”, via Jared Kushner, NOT to take any action to contain the pandemic in the USA:

    ” As Trump processes the stakes facing the country—and his presidency—he’s also lashing out at advisers, whom he blames for the White House’s inept and flat-footed response. Sources say a principal target of his anger is Jared Kushner. “I have never heard so many people inside the White House openly discuss how pissed Trump is at Jared,” the former West Wing official said.

    Sources told me Trump is regretting that Kushner swooped into the coronavirus response last week. Kushner, according to sources, encouraged Trump to treat the emergency as a P.R. problem when Fauci and others were calling for aggressive action. “This was Jared saying the world needs me to solve another problem,” a former White House official said. One source briefed on the internal conversations told me that Kushner advised Trump not to call a national emergency during his Oval Office address on March 11 because “it would tank the markets.” The markets cratered anyway, and Trump announced the national emergency on Friday.

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/03/trump-awakens-to-the-covid-19-danger

    There is now no doubt that, engineered virus or not, this real pandemic was planned: some PTB’s are clearly too happy to implement emergency measures and watch the global economy collapse. It is no coincidence. But who exactly are these PTB’s?

    Maybe the wider US administration is indeed plain stupid and incompetent; or may be the superior powers who control the US administration didn’t care about millions of Americans dying because of the pandemic.

    The answer, like for 9/11, will be indicated by who will pay the price in flesh.
    What percentage of the US population will die in Los Angeles and New York, compared to the death toll in Tel Aviv? Is it to cover up the discrepancy that Israel rushed to announce it has developed a Covid-19 vaccine?

    I don’t think this is a rhetorical question; defining the National Interest of a country never can be.
    The Israeli responsibility in 9/11 is so blatant and overwhelming that, unless one can demonstrate that a big shift of power happened since, the usual suspects are likely responsible for this tragic and murderous pandemic not being tackled in time. God bless and help the American people.

    Note: I have just read that the Zionist occupier has arrested and incarcerated Palestinians in East Jerusalem because they were disinfecting public premises by fear of Covid-19.
    It looks like Zionists and Covid-19 are good friends, no matter where on the planet.

    • Replies: @refl
    , @utu
  471. Anonymous[304] • Disclaimer says:
    @FB

    The ones that kill off their host quickly will disappear.

    “Quickly” being the operative word. I’ve already noted in my initial post that speed and mortality rate are completely different factors. As a matter of fact, it’s more efficient for a virus to kill its host at the end – when it’s done infecting others anyway – than to die and leave behind an immune person which could eventually create herd immunity.

    Here are some BASIC FACTS about the Spanish Flu…it happened 100 years ago…and the exact data is sketchy…you would realize that if you actually had a functional brain…

    It’s even more sketchy in your head since you’ve already translated 50-100 million dead from my CDC and NCBI links into 17-50. That’s just shameful. You obviously have a very serious problem with human communication and a debilitating urge to “win” an argument even when it’s hopeless.

    Bottom line is that the 10-20% mortality rate for Spanish Flu is (and was, since I remember) everywhere on the Net in serious publications and no-one was challenging it as impossible. Surely, someone would have noticed that glaring error and corrected it in 100 years. LOL!

    • Replies: @FB
  472. @Ron Unz

    It’s a certainty that Chinese are the vector in Canada, as with SARS. But what is puzzling to me is not the potential under-reporting in SE Asia, but instead the lack of undeniable explosive growth.

    According to the WHO, some 626,000,00 Indians practice open defecation. It seems hard to believe that a nation with such barbaric attitudes towards hygiene would find themselves without hundreds or thousands of times the number of infected in Western nations.

    Not implying that crapping in the streets is a major mode of transmission, but if this indicates their basic level of hygiene???????

  473. Ron Unz says:
    @Genrick Yagoda

    According to the WHO, some 626,000,00 Indians practice open defecation. It seems hard to believe that a nation with such barbaric attitudes towards hygiene would find themselves without hundreds or thousands of times the number of infected in Western nations.

    Well, that wouldn’t happen until the first infected individual arrived and began spreading it there. Presumably, there are far fewer casual Chinese visitors than those going to Canada or Northern Italy (which has something like 330,000 Chinese living and working there).

    But assuming the South Asian weather or whatever doesn’t block it, once it arrived, I’m sure it spread like lightning, though the local governments probably didn’t notice it for a while.

    Processes enjoying exponential growth seem to suddenly appear all at once.

    • Replies: @refl
  474. FB says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    “Quickly” being the operative word. I’ve already noted in my initial post that speed and mortality rate are completely different factors.

    Your ‘post’ means nothing, moron, since you don’t even realize how breathtakingly stupid you are…

    Dr Carroll said this…

    With the SARS virus, it’s no surprise that killing 10 percent of its host, it wasn’t able to establish itself as a pandemic virus on this planet.

    He is referring directly to mortality rate there…ten percent is simply too high for a virus to be successful…every virologist will tell you that…

    Bottom line is that the 10-20% mortality rate for Spanish Flu is (and was, since I remember) everywhere on the Net in serious publications…

    Go ahead and link to one serious peer reviewed paper that gives even any kind of actual percentage number about Spanish Flu death rate, you complete idiot…’articles’ don’t count, whether from CDC or anyone else, since those are not peer-reviewed scientific literature [not that a hopeless numbskull like you would appreciate the difference…]

    You are a total blockhead…STOP WASTING MY TIME

  475. utu says:
    @Genrick Yagoda

    “It’s a certainty that Chinese are the vector in Canada..”

    Probably but it is more complicated. The case of British Columbia.

    In British Columbia cases 1 to 5 were from China though it does not appear they infected others while cases 6, 7,…, 12 and 14, 15,…19 were traced to Iran. Then case 22 was from Iran and also case 31. Case 32 was from Italy, case 35 was from Egypt and case 37 was from Germany. So out of first 37 cases over 50% were people came form Iran, Egypt, Germany and Italy. My point is that while Canada has huge Chinese population (1.7 mil) and gets 700,000 Chinese visitors per year it does not look like China was the main vector. In BC it is Iran and Europe.

    https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/covid-19-coronavirus-canadian-cases

    One should consider a possibility whether virus introduction to Iran and the Middle East did precede its introduction in China.

  476. Send the man more tinfoil.

  477. Perfect fit with the likes of the sociopath at State, openly relishing increasing the suffering of Iran, and “Bloody Gina” at CIA.

  478. bjondo says:
    @Genrick Yagoda

    Not implying that crapping in the streets is a major mode of transmission…

    Shit is best protection against many viruses including the current T-Chick.

    Any way don’t worry about it. Ft Det 19 vaccine available any minute now.
    USA and ISRAEL will save us.

    Common cold and this year’s flu will have to wait another 100 years.

    Priorities and just so happens ….

    5 dancing shlomos

  479. @Issar

    As a further observation on those two deaths in Italy, they can only be tied to the virus via a test (the PCR test) which isn’t even capable of identifying the virus.

    Scroll down to the section concerning the test’s inventor and his statements.

    https://thedoctorwithin.com/blog/2020/03/10/newsletter-march-2020/

    More from that article page:

    “IDENTIFYING VIRUSES: THE MAGIC BOX

    There is a blatantly false assumption, encouraged by pop media and pop science. For decades, they’ve pretended that doctors have a magic box that can isolate and photograph viruses, and sequence its exact RNA – and then print an image of that sequence – and then do the same for viruses it finds within any sputum or blood sample sent in for testing. And that it can Print out the exact genetic sequence of the sample virus, and then lay it down alongside the sequence of the novel virus, to compare for a match-up. A perfect match-up then is a positive test.

    This is purest science fiction. Nothing even close to such a machine exists in our dimension. Not even close. But the deception and assumption that it does exist pervades all media and “scientific” literature. Even though they are forbidden to provide any specifics on such a testing process. Which is why the details of COVID testing is such a closely guarded secret, and why no local clinics claim to be able to perform such a test.

    Till recently, samples must be sent into CDC, who then provides a simple positive or negative response. No information on the type of testing, or the printed results comparing the sequences is offered. Even the medical clinics who send in the sample must blindly trust in the CDC’s science, without question.

    And this is the source where all the online scoreboard numbers of “infected” COVID patients come from. Look at the CDC’s webpage [10] and notice the colossal lack of information on the specifics of testing. Their most closely guarded secret Looks like something written by L Ron Hubbard.

    And this is the best science we have in order to substantiate an entire global crisis.”

    • Thanks: Nonny Mouse
  480. @utu

    First, I am not committed to any theory about The Chan. The best thing we in the “COVID19 Truth” community can do at this point is try to gather as much information as possible while understanding that theories are simply narratives that explain or do not explain the facts.

    Since Ft. Detrick closure the virus in the US should have been everywhere. How could they cover up that extensive epidemic?

    If the Ft Detrick closing was related to the release of a biohazard from the site that is related to the current epidemic, then prior to health professionals knowing about the new disease, its impact should have been showing up in stats related to general flu and flu-like illnesses.

    For some reason I can’t get the chart in a window by itself for posting, but check out the link below and scroll down about half way to the section titled ILINET. There is a chart for the percentage of visits for influenza-like illness to outpatient clinics. Time series plots are provided for all influenza seasons from 2019-2020 (current) to 2009-2010, with the current series in bright red.

    Here are my observations from the graph:

    1) 2009-2010 flu season (grey) has the highest peak at ~8%, but its time path makes it an outlier (peak way early in October 2009.)

    2) The highest standard path peak is the 2017-2018 plot (light blue) at about 7.5%, with the peak occurring in about week 6 of 2018.

    3) The 3rd highest peak is the current 2019-2020 season (red). The peak is about 7%, but the peak occurs much earlier than other seasons – in week 51 of 2019.

    4) Now, they say that COVID19 has an incubation period of up to 14 days. Considering that, let’s shift the red plot to the left two weeks and get a peak infection at week 49 of 2019. Doing that, we get a week 49 level for 2019-2020 that is far higher than week 49 for any other flu season in the last decade.

    5) Lastly, past seasons saw quick drops following the peak, but 2019-2020 is doing an up and down lingering thing post peak.

    In summary: if there was a domestic release of an unknown flu-like virus in summer 2019, it would show up in the data as unusually high/early visits for flu-like symptoms to clinics. I don’t know if that is the explanation for the 2019-2020 data, but the data seems consistent with such a release.

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm

    • Replies: @utu
    , @FB
  481. If the US & UK were prepared to conduct such hybrid warfare against the former Soviet Union during the so-called ‘Cold War’ as:

    i) using the Polish Pope* John Paul II as a lightning rod to galvanize citizens’ protests against the restriction on religion in the Warsaw Pact nations (East Germany (GDR), Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Bulgaria & Romania), to cause civil unrest;

    ii) flooding the international gold market given that the Soviets had stockpiled gold;

    iii) using the so-called Strategic Defense Initiative, SDI (aka Star Wars initiative) propaganda to deceive the USSR into wasting billions of roubles on utterly useless research; and

    iv) after the USSR had spent billions of roubles on economic development (especially infrastructure investment) in Afghanistan (the geopolitical region historically known as ‘the Great Game’ between the British Empire & the Russian Empire), the CIA armed & trained the, then, Mujaheddin (which morphed into the Taliban) as a resistance movement, bogging the USSR down in a 10 year guerilla war, known as ‘the Soviet’s Vietnam’,

    all with the objective of bankrupting the Soviet economy and the USSR’s disintegration – what aren’t they prepared to do?

    * There was a coup d’etat in The Vatican in 1958 on the death of Pius XII. All traditional Roman Catholic adherents have been ‘played for mugs’ ever since. Why the infiltration by the US-UK’s secret intelligence agencies, you ask? Because its the last place the general public would think to look!

    • Replies: @Nonny Mouse
  482. refl says:
    @Iris

    What percentage of the US population will die in Los Angeles and New York, compared to the death toll in Tel Aviv?

    No significant numbers, anyway in comparison to those who die in their tents in the streets of californian cities all the time – it is rich, in fact, to panic about the Corona-thing, when in Americas failing health care system people are dying in numbers that would make any killer virus go pale with envy.

    And Tel Aviv, I don’t know. Your thinking is flawed, when you think that Zionists care about Jews. It is there favorite cannon fodder. Privileged, to be sure, but cannon fodder anyway.

    Always keep your eyes on the narrative. The people who bankrupted their non-existent credibility with Russiagate and Ukrainegate have a new toy: Meet Coronagate, the ultimate disaster that will sink the Trump presidency – except that “there is no there there”.

    And rest assured that they will ride this horse beyond death, and that they will pray for Corona to be real, go to any length to keep the story alive, and if it means to lock down the whole western world up to election day 2024 – you better store up on toilett paper!

    • Agree: Meimou
    • Replies: @Iris
  483. utu says:
    @Mario Partisan

    Thank you. Interesting.

    (1) The flu season curves are bimodal. With the first peak in the 51st week and the send peak in the 6th week.

    (2) For 2019-2020 season after the second peak there is a local minimum on week 8-9 and the growth to 12th week. Such a growth is not observed in previous seasons suggesting that 2019-2020 season is tri-modal. The third peak just developing could be caused by covid-19.

    If covid-19 was hidden as a flu and if it was the unchecked growing epidemic (exponentially) we should not see local 1st and 2nd peaks, I think. Or the number of covid-19 cases was still very small and its signal was masked by a regular flu. If the covid-19 signal is so small that we can’t see it it means that the epidemic did not start much earlier. This would suggest that the vaping epidemic attributed by some ‘truth seekers’/’conspiracy theorists’ to covid-19 rather can’t be related to covid-19 because it peaked was in September 2019 and then it was steadily decreasing. See:

    https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/basic_information/e-cigarettes/severe-lung-disease.html#epi-chart

    • Replies: @FB
  484. @JohnnyWalker123

    On the other hand, the major East Asian countries (China, South Korea, Taiwan, Japan) seem to be handling the crisis fairly competently.

    Forget about Japan. The bureaucrats here are famous for their unrivaled incompetence: take a boat with 10 Corona-virus patients. Park it in a harbor. End up with 700 patients.

  485. utu says:
    @Iris

    Thanks for info on Kushner but the last three paragraphs are the part of your usual preachy rant. When you gather your followers at some meeting you can raise their emotions by evoking the national interest, well being of the people and the general injustice of the world. But you won’t get closer to the truth by repeating these worn out phrases.

    • Replies: @Iris
  486. @Genrick Yagoda

    According to the WHO, some 626,000,00 Indians practice open defecation. It seems hard to believe that a nation with such barbaric attitudes towards hygiene would find themselves without hundreds or thousands of times the number of infected in Western nations.

    Maybe one advantage of all that shittery is Hindus have developed greater immunity to disease. I hear that Indian food stalls offer food with fecal matter in them. With so much shit all around, Hindus gotta have super-immunity to survive. Take the Ganges. It’s like an open sewer but people bathe in it and even drink its water. If most of us did that, we’d get the runs and get sick, even die. But hindus can take it.

    So, maybe there is an advantage to open defecation in places in San Fran. It boosts the immune system.

    When Americans run out of toilet tissues and shit all over, maybe their immunity will strengthen and will fend off the Corona.

    • Replies: @Kim
    , @S
  487. Iris says:
    @refl

    it is rich, in fact, to panic about the Corona-thing, when in Americas failing health care system people are dying in numbers

    It is a legitimate opinion; John Pilger concurs with you:

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/john-pilger-said-about-coronavirus-outbreak/5706923

    However, it is completely illusory to dismiss the severity of the pandemic. 800 Italians have died of the infection over the last 24 hours, and the worst is to come in most populated European countries where we still care about our elderly and vulnerable.

    • Replies: @refl
  488. refl says:
    @Ron Unz

    Here some article on Corona, Dr. Wodarg and Tamiflu, which alsorounds up the whole Bioweapons issue, confronting Peter Königs article on Global Research “China is Confronting the COVID-19 Epidemic. Was It Man-Made? An Act of of Bio-warfare?”

    http://www.nrhz.de/flyer/beitrag.php?id=26660

    ” Cui bono? Wem nützt die Corona-Seuche? ”

    As the whole thing is in German, a few key parts by Google translate:

    However, König already disturbs in his article with the sentence: “The western media is also silent about the fact that the virus apparently affects ethnic Chinese to a high degree, i.e. that it specifically targets Chinese DNA. Almost all deaths and confirmed cases in the 51 countries and areas where the virus has spread are of Chinese origin. ”Chinese gene? Ethnic Chinese? Double hiccups. After World War II, after the displacement of eugenics from the large global stage, science came to the conclusion that “races” do not differ in their genetic structure. The phenotype is not the same as the genotype.

    That means: different skin color is not a consequence of different genetic makeup. And that even peoples, e.g. Nobody claims that French and Germans have different genes. In addition, ethnic Chinese were only invented by Sun Yat-Sen at the time of the nationalist movement. It was only around the turn of the twentieth century that completely different ethnic groups were brought together to form the so-called Han people

    And about Tamiflu in the 2000s:

    [MORE]

    Who is it useful for? With most epidemics in the past two decades, this is very clear. Avian and swine flu were an unprecedented act of organized crime. A gigantic theft of our common public wealth by kleptocrats from politics, science, the media and the so-called “free” economy. We have now reached the state that government agencies, universities and even the UN have been infiltrated by moles in the pharmaceutical industry. In the early 2000s, Laurent Kaiser, as head of the Central Virological Laboratory in Geneva at the university clinic there, was able to compile ten scientific articles in such a way that the public had the impression that the flu agent Tamiflu, a product of the Swiss pharmaceutical company Hoffman La Roche, was without a doubt that ideal medication for swine flu (1).

    It later emerged that eight of the ten “scientific” articles were paid for by the Swiss pharmaceutical company Hoffman La Roche and were never published in scientific journals. Only two of the ten articles had been published seriously and were not sponsored by Hoffman La Roche. And these two studies said there was practically no difference in effectiveness between Tamiflu and placebo. In other words, Tamiflu doesn’t help against flu.

    (…)

    When the States were stuck on their Tamiflu dumps for too long, an occasion was finally invented to spread the Hoffman La Roche drug.

    The outbreak of the terrible swine flu pandemic was announced in a gigantic campaign. But there was no mass infection. And now the disgraced governments had to throw the worthless trash somewhere. The German virologist and SPD politician Wolfgang Wodarg was then a health expert in the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe and led a campaign, as lonely as it was heroic, against Swiss pharmaceutical giant Goliath Hoffman La Roche.

    (…)

    Health politician Wodarg fought alone in the hallway and tried to drag executives of the UN health authority WHO, who had been too openly involved in this plot, to court. Without success. Nevertheless, there were consequences: Wolfgang Wodarg disappeared from the political stage. He lost his mandate in the 2009 federal election.

  489. FB says: • Website
    @Mario Partisan

    Well done…

    Here is that graph from CDC…

    Your observations on the graph are spot on…

    Here’s one observation I will add…the current season is unique among those seven seasons plotted in that it has two distinct ‘roller-coaster’ reversals, where the number of suspected flu visits first drop, and then shoot up again…none of the other seasons shows more than one rolller-coaster reversal…several don’t even have one…the gray line of 2009-10 and the 2017-18 [light blue]…

    What does this mean…?

    Well, since this chart simply shows patient visits to a doctor or clinic, not actually any data about specific illness…we see that those reversals and people rushing to the doctor could well coincide with possible panic about corona…at least the second and unique reversal that started only a couple of weeks ago as the panic and lockdowns started setting in…ie a self-fulfilling prophecy thanks to the media megaphone wielded by the ruling class…

    Even so, it is plainly clear that right now, in week 13 of the new year, we are well below the peak reached back in week 51, which would have been the second-to-last week of December…

    Also clear, as you already mentioned, is that this season saw the spike skewed very early on in the season, a temporal anomaly exceeded only by that season of a decade ago [gray line]…

    Now…considering that the China cases first started popping up in December, this very sharp spike we saw stateside in the same month certainly does not seem to be explained with the virus coming from China, and those early cases reported in Washington state, which were well into the new year…

    Numbers don’t lie…these charts show that a lot of people were going to the doctor way back in December and complaining about flu or cold-like symptoms…

    Nobody was tested for any coronavirus back in December…and even now testing is spotty and may not be giving any useful data…

    And we also have this…from doctors in Italy…

    Remuzzi says he is now hearing information about it from general practitioners. “They remember having seen very strange pneumonia, very severe, particularly in old people in December and even November,” he says.

    “This means that the virus was circulating, at least in [the northern region of] Lombardy and before we were aware of this outbreak occurring in China.”

    Second-to-last paragraph in the linked NPR article…

    Again…we are in the very early stages here and very little meaningful data is known…there is massive confusion, including in the health care community…

    When the dust settles we may indeed see new facts emerging about how and where this virus originated…or we may never really have such clear facts…time will tell

    But we have seen in recent years some curious things…China has had more than its share of various viral epidemics…in its livestock and its people…at the same time we have had absolutely brazen attempts at outright color revolutions in Hong Kong [more than once]…a ratcheting up of rhetoric…a trade war [that the US cannot possibly hope to win, since China increasingly does not need exports to the US, as its own huge consumer base grows…]

    Now we have the same retards in govt and media trying to peddle this as the ‘China Virus’…a story that is clearly not adding up…

    • Replies: @Mario Partisan
  490. Trinity says:

    Aah, India. Love the food but not sure if they serve the same “shit” over there that they push on us in America. My brah went to Italy and said the EYE-talian food over there was nothing like we shovel in our mouths down here on Mulberry Skreet. Dem East Injuns might be nasty but from what I understand physical culture is big over yonder. Yoga, bethaks, dands, sun salutations, and a whole bunch of other weird physical training and what not. Every now and then I will come out from the shed, tired of eating my mustard and biscuits and large french fried pertaters and go grab me some good Injun food. I think they are only doing take-outs now though. Alright den, time to go and visit Karl Childers, I think the poor feller has a touch of the ZIO-bug.

  491. refl says:
    @Iris

    800 Italians have died of the infection over the last 24 hours

    NO!!

    800 Italians have died in the last 24 hours, who were tested positive for Corona like any sample of people, who carry a Corona Virus, which are about 5 – 15 % of the population in any flu season. It is (1) any type of Corona, because the test is not specific and (2) it is not established, if the virus was the cause of death.

    If you go into a hospital with a flu at a time, when respiratorial diseases are peaking, the care is likely to be abysmal. If you do so during a time of mass psychosis as this, it will be worse.
    Once hospitalized in these conditions, above all when you are old, you are likely to catch a bacteriological superinfection, and you can be sure, that the hospital will tell your relatives later on that they did everything to save you (as they honestly believe) and not, that with 12 years of Euro-crisis your countries health system has degraded to a level, where it would have been more humane to have you peacefully die at home with your family around.
    Besides, 800 is not high. I have read that at the peak of the flu season, it can be easily 2500 in Germany, and that has never been news.

    • Replies: @Iris
  492. FB says: • Website
    @utu

    If covid-19 was hidden as a flu and if it was the unchecked growing epidemic (exponentially) we should not see local 1st and 2nd peaks, I think.

    You’re misinterpreting the data…the charts show office visits NOT confirmed cases of anything…so the driver of office visits is not necessarily due to any excessive illness or exponential virus growth, but simply PERCEPTION…which, as I just pointed out, could well be driven by media panic, especially on this season’s now unique third spike upwards…

    Your interpretation is exactly opposite of what logical analysis dictates…plus throwing the vaping issue into the mix is only muddying the waters when what we’re seeking is clarity and simplicity…

    • Replies: @utu
  493. Iris says:
    @utu

    No worries, Utu, it is your right to like and defend Israel.

    Everybody has their own bias; some people are more open and assuming about it than others.

    • Replies: @utu
  494. Iris says:
    @refl

    It is (1) any type of Corona, because the test is not specific and (2) it is not established, if the virus was the cause of death.

    This is incorrect: in France for instance, the test devised by the principal health authority “Institut Pasteur” is specific to SARS-CoV-2, the agent of Covid-1, and is the one used in hospitals to diagnose patients.

    • Replies: @refl
  495. utu says:
    @FB

    “You’re misinterpreting the data…” “Your interpretation is exactly opposite of what logical analysis dictates” – Before I end up being devastated by your piercing criticism could you point to where in my comment I imply that the curves show “confirmed cases”? It seems that you put lots of emphasis on the perception but you must agree that people see doctor’s help also when they have actual symptoms regardless of how media are influencing them. You can notice that the bimodal distributions have their peaks around the same time almost every year. Are you saying that media year after year drive people to go see doctors around the same time, i.e, 51st week and 6th week?

    Don’t you think that if there was a covid-19 epidemic since, say, November 2019 with an exponential growth regardless of media conditioning the curve should somehow reflect it and if it does not, then the magnitude of the epidemic must have been small, negligible comparing to the typical seasonal behavior. Don’t you think that if there was an exponential growth with, say doubling rate of 5 days (like in China) the dip between two peaks (which presumably are driven by media according to you) would be shallower and the second peak would be higher than the first peak? And the second dip would be higher than the first dip, right? How many days between 51st and 56h weeks; how many doublings? Since we do not see it I concluded that the graph does not support the hypothesis, that some people here want to believe, that here in the US we had a covid-19 epidemic since November 2019. The second dip could be related to covid-19.

    The reason I brought up the vaping issue is because it is being argued by proponents of the hypothesis that the covid-19 epidemic began much earlier in the US and that vaping pulmonary disease cases were the early manifestation of covid-19.

    • Replies: @FB
  496. Kim says:
    @Priss Factor

    I hear that Indian food stalls offer food with fecal matter in them.

    You know the peanuts they put on bars in some places? Disgusting of course. They are absolutely fuill of, for one thing, traces of urine. How does that get there? People are messy pissers and don’t wash their hands.

  497. Kim says:
    @Thomasina

    Yeh. Number 8 is my theory too.

  498. utu says:
    @Iris

    I am sure I have right to like and defend Israel as you say but where did you see me exercising this right? That I ignored your outrage motivated rant? Listen woman, I am beyond the outrage. I used to get outraged when I was much younger.

  499. Thank you Kevin for your latest piece:

    “9/11 Truth,Corona Virus Truth: Zionist Hysteria, MSM Lockdown”

    You really hit the nail on the head! (as usual)
    We love you Kevin!!

    Keep it up bro!

    • Agree: refl
  500. FB says: • Website
    @utu

    You’re kicking up a lot of useless dust, while leaving out the BIG OBVIOUS takeaway staring us in the face…

    And that is not the bimodal or trimodal roller-coasters, but the simple fact of the very high absolute height [amplitude] of that first peak in December…over seven percent…

    That is DOUBLE the number seen in some of the previous seasons…and surpassing nearly ALL the seasons in the last decade in overall severity…

    That is NOT something that can be ignored…so please spare me your fancy footwork about ‘trimodal’ observations…that is clearly secondary to the simple fact that this season saw a HUGE amount of doctor visits way before the China news even started…

    [I only responded to your nonsensical ‘analysis’ about the roller coasters because you flubbed that up too…but it’s SECONDARY in this entire discussion…try to keep a focus…]

    • LOL: utu
    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  501. S says:
    @Priss Factor

    I hear that Indian food stalls offer food with fecal matter in them.

    A person might well legitimately complain about that, but it’s a bit like the person who complained about having no shoes until they met the person who had no feet…

    I read about some West African city where the sewage treatment had been so poor for so long, that untreated fecal matter had entered into much of the local soil. Due to daily strong winds this fecal dust had become aerosolized, so much so that with every breath, people were ingesting ‘fecalized air’.

    All the same, just as it’s better to have both feet and shoes, it’s better to have both clean air and clean food. 😉

  502. Issar says:
    @Corvinus

    Yea. Good points. Isn’t she great though for having the moxie to swim against the tidal wave of phony numbers, hysteria and doomsday scenarios coming out of the media? She’s giving you her honest and intelligent take on a contrived narrative. I think she intuits there’s something very wrong.

    On the other hand– try this guy. He’s a pulmonary physician.

    • Thanks: NoseytheDuke
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  503. @FB

    And that first peak for the 2014-2015 season was more than double for any preceding season. So that red peak for this season is nothing unusual in the scheme of that graph. I’m sure there’s a reason for it but you can’t be jumping to conclusions just yet. It could be that that somewhat higher spike this season may be due to the coronavirus hiding among the seasonal flu earlier in the US but at this point that would be just speculation.

    There was an even more massive jump between the first and second peaks last season (blue) so what “perception” or panic caused that? I think you’re trying to read to much into that data.

    • Replies: @FB
  504. Erebus says:
    @Anonymous

    … So a plan was hatched.

    It certainly wouldn’t surprise me to learn that something along those lines will eventually emerge.

    According to Italian media, GPs in Lombardy began to notice the appearance of an unusually virulent pneumonia as early as November and increasing slowly through the following months – much like Wuhan’s front line doctors.

    FWIW, I have it first hand from a doctor working in the Neurology Dept of a large institute in the US that they’d been seeing an increasing number of flu/pneumonia patients with neurological damage for several months. They tested Influenza A, but their symptoms varied and they didn’t respond as expected to indicated treatments. Neurological damage, of course, is a major issue with this virus. That same doctor told me that they hadn’t seen any notice/bulletin to look out for it or any preparations until well into March. As of a few days ago, they still hadn’t received proper attire and my contact relates that the staff mentality has shifted from “I hope I don’t get it.”, to “I hope I get a mild/asymptomatic case when I get it”.
    I realize that is utterly anecdotal, but it matches the experience in Wuhan and in Italy, and explains why the US is now chasing a runaway train.

    There have been several reports that I find particularly intriguing should they prove true. I’m quite aware of the difference between plausibility and fact, but these are both plausible and potentially interesting if they prove to be factual…

    – that a number of US personnel at the Wuhan games stayed near Huanan market
    – that 5 of them got ill and one had to be hospitalized in Wuhan
    – that the reason the Huanan market was demolished is that when Chinese virologists inspected it they found the virus everywhere, including the sea food tanks.

    That suggests it may have gotten into the local water supply, and if so its sudden, overwhelming appearance in Wuhan’s medical system and the just as sudden, apparently draconian lockdown are easily explained.

    The US had a large team in Wuhan, but both Iran and Italy also entered large teams (>100) along with France, Spain, Germany and S. Korea. That these countries are now hotspots is suggestive, even though 2 other large teams, Poland and Brazil seem to have dodged the bullet so far. That the country with the largest visiting team, Russia, moved to close its China border immediately on Hubei being locked down indicates that the authorities there had concluded that this was serious and acted accordingly. Some reports say that the closure was bi-lateral which indicates that the Russians may have received more specific information than was being given to the rest of the world.

    In sum, though the various military teams’ extracurricular activities are unknown, it wouldn’t be a long shot to suggest that one of the primary infection vectors followed those teams home. In Iran’s case, it may also explain why there are so many cases at the high political level as its military is much more intertwined with its politicians than most other countries.

    It comes back here, even better – still China’s fault…

    The brazen lies coming out of Washington about China’s “hiding” information as the primary cause of the US Govt’s gross negligence are so cowardly and irresponsible as to be beneath contempt.

    The fact is that China informed the WHO and “other countries” on Dec 31, which was the date that the first lab report indicating a novel “SARS Corona Virus” crossed Ai Fen’s desk. She was the Head of the Emergency Dept at Wuhan Central Hospital at the epicentre of the outbreak and the original whistle blower that fed that information to other depts incl the now famous Dr. Li. A week later, the Chinese published and disseminated the virus’ complete genome to allow the rest of the world to prepare.

    If anything, the Chinese bureaucracy went into high gear at a speed that other countries couldn’t imagine. They may have staggered about for a couple of weeks in December, but 3 weeks after that report they locked down all of Hubei, and shortly after that the rest of their 1.4B citizens. They marshalled enormous resources to bring the epidemic to a standstill. Net result is that 6-7 weeks later China’s coming back to normal life. The 40,000 medical personnel that were parachuted into Hubei along with their eqpt to help deal with the crisis have all gone home. The purpose built “instant hospitals” are being dismantled, and China’s medical authorities’ focus has turned to the virus coming in from outside.

    Due to the slack response in the rest of the world, all of China’s recent new cases are imported as foreigners and Chinese citizens come home. Wuhan itself will soon be out of lockdown, while all inbound international travellers are going into quarantine. That tide was turned by a supreme command of logistics, backed by the grim determination of the populace.

    I have no idea whether there’s a better explanation other than bureaucratic complacency, careerism and corruption to explain why Washington and the rest of the world sat on its hands while China fought its battle, but the fault for their various current woes lies entirely with them. They ignored, and even suppressed what was happening while the virus took hold on their watch. China’s battle may not be over, but at the present time there’s no safer large country. It dealt with the bureaucracy’s 3Cs and after the initial missteps the entire nation manned up and dealt with it head on.

    Geo-politically, the fact that China and Russia stand to come out of this earlier, and with less societal damage than the rest of the world bodes well for their multi-polar initiative. That the Central Asian ‘stans seem to have also dodged this bullet bodes well for the resumption of the BRI projects and Eurasian integration.

    The West, meanwhile is in for a world of hurt and is unlikely to come out of it for many more months. My money says some of it won’t come out intact. In the US, State Governors are taking the initiative away from Washington, just as individual nations are taking it away from Brussels in the EU. Over the 18+ mos it’ll take them to knock this down, I expect this trend to develop.

    Drop the Russian oil play into this soup pot, and by the time COVID-19 dies down the world will be a different place. By 2025, I’d warrant, it’ll be unrecognizable. TEOTWAWKI is upon us.

    .

    • Agree: Parfois1
    • Thanks: Iris, d dan, FB
  505. refl says:
    @Iris

    Possible, but how do you know? Why, suddenly, your trust in the authorities?

    After two years of violent protests against a president who should not be in that position (to put it mildly), they impose a curfew – not against the protests, beware, but to save the protesters from dying from a killer-virus?

    Would these authorities after all their criminality has been exposed, freely admit that they have terminaly crashed the economy for nothing?

    Throughout the western world, we have a contempt for government unparalleled in modern times – and on the spot the deus ex machina provides them with the ultimate threat, so they can save the world from a KILLER VIRUS???

    It is genious. In Germany, people have been locked up in their homes, basically, and their only means left to communicate is discussing the speach of Frau Merkel on social media. People are recommended to keep a distance of at least 1.5 meters from another, with the generous exception of your partner??

    Who invents such things? And what sort of a people does it take to accept this and not roar with laughter?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  506. Absolutely no one in the media has confronted Fauci about the following statement in his article published last month in the New England Journal of Medicine. Why?

    “If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%)” https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387

    This is another campaign of generating public hysteria. The intent is to implant a fear mechanism that is easily triggered. The Corona bug is a great followup to the climate change fearmongering from a few months ago. Didn’t Greta Thunberg also receive massive media attention? Interesting that Planned Parenthood is still executing abortions during this artificially-hyped pandemic. https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/forget-coronavirus-the-abortions-must-go-on/

    I’ll be watching who buys all the valuable shares in a few weeks after they hit rock bottom.

  507. @Genrick Yagoda

    “…some 626,000,00 Indians practice open defecation. It seems hard to believe that a nation with such barbaric attitudes towards hygiene…”

    This explains why the people there have a more resistant immune system than those living in the West. Additionally, Indians tend to eat curry, which contains curcuma (boosts the immune system) and coriander (anti-oxidant). Many in India likely already got infected on a mass scale too, but then simply remained asymptomatic.

    Open defecation is not only popular among Hindus but is also widespread in African countries. Needless to say, these people don’t use toilet paper either. Many maintain their habits upon having migrated to the West. I read that in the UK there have been problems with fecal matter in the food served at Indian run restaurants.

    I suppose this may be a reason why some try to avoid making contact with folks from the “Turd-World“.

  508. Chinaman says:
    @pepa65

    Great comment, it is the perfect cover-up. It kill many birds with one stone. Just as they weaponised democracy and human rights, someone use this to their advantage. Trump and whites are too dumb to pull something like this. it is a brilliant chess move.

    We might never get to the bottom of this but anyone who believe this is all caused by a bat eating Chinaman and a coincidence with trade war, election year and Iran is a fucking idiot.

    • Replies: @thetruth
  509. Prajna says: • Website
    @Quintus

    No strategy required, just look at the side effects list and you’ll need no further discouragement.

    Also, it only appears to be effective in vitro.

  510. Fool me once (9/11 psyop) shame on you , fool me twice (Coronavirus psyop)shame on me .

    • Troll: Corvinus
  511. Kevin’s hypothesis is entirely possible. But the facts do not yet overrule the scenario that Chinese Communist Party did this unto themselves at the direction of the global elite.

    China had a huge outbreak in Wuhan, but elsewhere in China was relatively unaffected. How could that be when the virus is so easily communicated? Even with draconian measures, Italy has so far failed in slowing the virus. The virus hit Wuhan before the Lunar New Year migration, meaning it should have spread like wildfire to all parts of China. Could it be that China’s control measures were so incredibly effective? Or could there have been a hidden reason, such as that the Chinese people in the rest of China already were IMMUNE to the virus? It is possible that China had both the virus and the vaccine, and had previously administered the vaccine to its people in secret save for the Wuhan area.

    It would have been a hard pill to swallow, but CCP had ample motive to comply with the wishes of the elite. It was being sandwiched between slowing internal growth and the trade confrontation with the US. Hong Kong was beset with daily protestations against the mainland. The virus presented a devilish chance to crush the western economies and re-invigorate its grip on the Chinese people. Plus, the virus mostly kills older and weaker population, relieving the welfare burden on the national economy.

    Remember how they used American insiders to facilitate 9/11? That is their proven modus operandi from the prior big event. The global elite would have wanted an orderly execution of their plans and CCP collaboration would have been the most safe and effective way. If this is the case here, the first cover story was bat soup. The fallback cover story is US military/intelligence action.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  512. @Erebus

    …The US had a large team in Wuhan, but both Iran and Italy also entered large teams (>100) along with France, Spain, Germany and S. Korea. That these countries are now hotspots is suggestive…

    Are you attempting to tacitly suggest that many of the team players were frozen for at least two months and then magically reanimated so they could belatedly unleash the virus to infect their respective populations?

    The confabulations presented here are just so spectacular, consequently quite amusing to read. Many of the remarks constitute examples of illogical reasoning, known as the post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.

  513. Kim says:
    @obwandiyag

    Nonsense. They can frack. You can frack almost anywhere.

    On the contrary, the nonsense is coming from you.

    1. As mostly even idiots know, you can frack successfully only where there is oil. The USA is the king of fracking because for 100 years it was an historic oil giant.

    Notice that in the USA fracking finds oil (condensates) only where large amounts of oil were previously drilled, Pennsylvania, Texas, Ohio etc..

    2. Historically, China has had little to no oil. Thus, it cannot sucessfully frack. If it could, it would, but it can’t. End of story.

    3. In any case, fracking these last ten years in the USA has been a Ponzi scheme enabled by low interest rates. On the one hand, it has indeed produced huge amounts of oil. On the other hand, it has been completely uneconomic. 99 out of 100 oil companies in fracking have lost money and are tens of billions of dollars in debt. The coming industry crash is going to be enormous for pension funds as well as the frackers themselves.

    So you should face reality. Historically, England had energy as coal and iron ore. Europe’s had forests (for charcoal for steelmaking and for shipbuilding) and exploited wind power.

    Before that, the Mongols had vast grasslands for their horses. That was their energy source. Solar energy converted through grass to animal power.

    Other empires were empires of slaves.

    An empire needs an energy source and it must be A. CHEAP B. ABUNDANT. China is not in this position. Thus it can never be a modern hegemon.

  514. Kim says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    I made five clear points. Because you couldn’t refute any of them, you changed the topic.

    And what was the tenor of your response? That if China could not win peacefully, she would go to war.

    Says it all, doesn’t it? It’s always just jihad, jihad, jihad with you types.

    • Replies: @Kevin Barrett
  515. anastasia says:

    Disease is diagnosed by symptoms and/or testing, and in this case, neither can be used for this so-called virzus. You cannot diagnose by symptoms because the so-called virus resembles too many common ailments, i.e. colds, flu and pneumonia, upper respiratory infections, the later two diseases which are very common in smoggy Wuhan. Therefore, one of the ways to diagnose is useless in this case. Neither is the testing any good. The fact that you must have symptoms before being tested is a red flag that the test is unreliable. The testing is untried and cannot be validated. It takes years to validate a test. Further, doctors have shown that the molecular testing must use a chemical on the assay to “enhance” and “amplify” the RNA. The should be no reason to enhance.
    It should be plentiful on the test without need for amplification. So neither testing nor symptoms are of any use in diagnosing the so-called virus.

    They have been itching to use their pandemic plans laid out in meetings of globalists over the years, the latest one in October. They wanted to to impose travel bans with SARS and MERS, but wiser men thought better of it.

    There is not a virologist in the world who can look into a microscope, find a new virus, and tell anyone if it is dangerous. You can ask the virologist, “Is the new strain dangerous”, and he MUST tell you, “I don’t know”. That is because you have to see it play out on the population. We saw it play out on the population in Wuhan, and what we saw is that very few people die, only those already medically compromised and sick, and many have either NO SYMPTOMS or mild cold like symptoms. Wuhan tells you there is no real danger – no more than any other flu.

    We did not see that the virus was dangerous, but what we did see in China was a hysterical reaction and we followed suit. But I will never understand how China found time in what they considered to be a health crisis to have “drills”, and I will never understand, if they were so worried about “contagion” why they put people, who were not tested, and with symptoms of a cold together with those who were diagnosed with more certainty. And these make-shift hospitals were not hospitals at all. They were detention centers. If you can truly catch this virus from 6 feet away, (which is how you can catch any other flu), why did their beds two feet apart.

    And why did the US put together a package of more than 2 trillion dollars for big business, while simultaneously instructing hospitals to REUSE their masks and gerry-rig their equipment to make ventilators. Is anyone beginning to see what this thing is, I mean, isn’t?

    And why are the hospitals in New York empty. Why are the hospitals sending health care workers home because they canceled elective surgeries and because they have nothing to do. We are told by Big Brother that they are working “tirelessly”? Tirelessly? Think about that for a few minutes. First of all did anyone notice that not one “journalist”, and I use that term loosely, call up any hospitals in their communities to find out how many patients with corona virus are in there, and how many of them are on ventilators. They certainly have an appalling lack of curiosity about the most pertinent facts. And how come not one journalist or government person trying to “educate” us never tells us how many people die every day in this country. I looked it. 773 people die out of every 100,000 every year. That means about 3,250,000 people die in this country every year for various reasons, which translates to 9,000 people per day. How come they haven’t told us that, but keep putting up a sidebar, like stock market statistics, showing up the number of people who died from this disease and how it increases from day to day. Yet they give us no comparative figures so we can judge for ourselves.

    It’s not what the media and government is telling us. It is what they are omitting to tell us that should be thought about.

    • Thanks: Beefcake the Mighty
    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  516. bjondo says:

    Day approx 200 of American corona virus better known as Ft Det 19. Of course this parasite has been around for 2500 years.

    Still haven’t come across a victim.

    I’ve heard a couple of people are in the hospital but this is from news reporters. News reporters which also gave us Russia this and that and The Impeachment.

    The sun is shining which means Bolton’s homohrroids are swollen. The NeoLibCons are beginning to understand final victory is not at hand.

    5 dancing shlomos

    • Troll: Corvinus
  517. Corvinus says:
    @Issar

    “Isn’t she great though for having the moxie to swim against the tidal wave of phony numbers, hysteria and doomsday scenarios coming out of the media?”

    First, the media is reporting the statistics and scenarios as relayed by experts. There is nothing “phony” about it. Second, she is only speculating, as she admitted she does not have a medical or biology degree. The tidal wave is coming from Covid-19 hoaxers.

    Now, the source you provide is from a qualified individual. However, the source says that “Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg is the first specialist we met to understand the current crisis about the coronavirus.” So, what makes him “understand” it seemingly better compared to other physicians? Various German scientists examined Wodarg’s claims for accuracy and concluded his statements largely contradict the verifiable facts, some statements were neither refutable nor verifiable.

    Translate from German to English in Google!

    https://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/faktencheck-wolfgang-wodarg-verbreitet-thesen-die-wichtige-tatsachen-ignorieren/25654104.html

    https://www.tagesschau.de/faktenfinder/corona-wodarg-101.html

    • Replies: @Issar
    , @9/11 Inside job
  518. @Kim

    You misinterpreted my response. I thought your “five arguments,” which boil down to one main argument (China doesn’t have enough domestic energy supplies to become the world’s #1 power) were plausible and worth thinking about. You also missed my point about the end of the era of sea power imperialism. I certainly didn’t say China would go to war. What I meant was that in a world where navies can’t threaten anybody any more, peace will break out, and China will be able to peacefully import all the energy it needs. It will dominate the world through its superior productivity, not through its military or its military control over energy supplies. Its military will simply deter anyone who would try to cut off its energy supplies.

    Regarding jihad, look at the definition posted near the top of my website, http://www.truthjihad.com . Just as Sun Tzu recognized that the best war is one that doesn’t have to be fought, Islam holds that the greater jihad is the struggle against the evil/egotistical part of the self, and the best jihad is a word of truth flung in the face of a tyrant.

    The quarrelsome West, which rose to briefly dominate the world due to its incessant wars driving the development of military technology, has plenty to learn from the world’s two greatest classical civilizations. Unfortunately it looks like it will collapse back into the barbarism from whence it came before it has time to learn much of anything.

    • Replies: @Robjil
    , @Kim
  519. Meena says:

    “One group, including Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Robert C. O’Brien, the national security adviser, urged a tough response to rocket attacks that had killed two American troops at a base north of Baghdad, arguing that tough action while Iran’s leaders were battling the coronavirus ravaging the country could finally push them into direct negotiations”
    2”But Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, pushed back. The Pentagon and intelligence agencies did not have clear evidence that the attacks, launched by the Shiite militia group Khataib Hezbollah, had been ordered by Iran, they argued, and warned that a large-scale response could draw the United States into a wider war with Iran and rupture already strained relations with Iraq”

    .3 ” Some American officials now admit that the killing of General Suleimani has not — as some had hoped — led Iran and its proxies to think twice about fomenting violence inside Iraq and elsewhere.–https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/21/world/middleeast/trump-iran-iraq-coronavirus-militas.html

    US may or may not infect China .It has effectively infected Iran by sanctions and more sanctions which was not lost on the Zio paid Mike Pompeo and Robert C. O’Brien. It also again shown terrorism by linking pressure of this nature to force “negotiations “- which is a lie because it will be a surrender on the part of Iran

  520. @pepa65

    This is a viable theory, but if China believes it was the victim of a bio-attack, why wouldn’t they say so? One official put forth the weakest of the various conspiracy theories (the military game angle), but a better theory is that, Corona is indeed a bioweapon, but US and China are using it in conjunction, not opposition. That Chinese official is helping propagate disinformation.

    Claims that China won’t speak out because they know the West’s captive media would ridicule them aren’t very convincing, given the alleged seriousness of the “attack”. Only cucks and concern trolls care about being accused of being a “conspiracy theorist”.

    • Replies: @Kevin Barrett
  521. Surprise, surprise, the Coronavirus arrives on the scene just in time to ensure the final report of the University of Alaska Fairbanks study on World Trade Center Building 7, which will be released this week, won’t make waves in the media or on social media.

    AE911Truth article of March 19, 2020:

    “The Coronavirus has meant that presentations, meetings with Congress, and the national conference where we planned to promote this report have all been cancelled or postponed.”

    “The Hulsey report will be released as scheduled, our legal challenge against NIST will proceed”

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  522. thetruth says:
    @Chinaman

    Here is a Chinese post talking about the latest Genetic mutation of the virus

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  523. FB says: • Website
    @Commentator Mike

    …you can’t be jumping to conclusions just yet.

    Who’s ‘jumping’ to conclusions fool…?

    I expressed all kinds of caution in my comments about the graph…maybe you missed those…?

    …we are in the very early stages here and very little meaningful data is known…there is massive confusion, including in the health care community…

    When the dust settles we may indeed see new facts emerging about how and where this virus originated…or we may never really have such clear facts…time will tell…

    As for this…

    I think you’re trying to read to much into that data.

    And I think you are just making silly noises here…why don’t you try to actually contribute something for a change…?

  524. TT says:
    @Max Parry

    COVID19 is another Spanish Flu named as Chinese Flu.

    Did a US Military Experimental Vaccine in 1918 Kill 50-100 Million People Blamed as “Spanish Flu”?
    http://themillenniumreport.com/2018/11/spanish-flu-of-1918-was-really-a-bioterror-attack-on-humanity/

    The pandemic was not flu. An estimated 95% (or higher) of the deaths were caused by bacterial pneumonia, not influenza/a virus.

    The pandemic was not Spanish. The first cases of bacterial pneumonia in 1918 trace back to a military base in Fort Riley, Kansas.

    From January 21 – June 4, 1918, an experimental bacterial meningitis vaccine cultured in horses by the Rockefeller Institute for Medical Research in New York was injected into soldiers at Fort Riley.

    During the remainder of 1918 as those soldiers – often living and traveling under poor sanitary conditions – were sent to Europe to fight, they spread bacteria at every stop between Kansas and the frontline trenches in France.

    During the war years 1918-19, the US Army ballooned to 6,000,000 men, with 2,000,000 men being sent overseas. The Rockefeller Institute for Medical Research took advantage of this new pool of human guinea pigs to conduct vaccine experiments.

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  525. FB says: • Website
    @Erebus

    The brazen lies coming out of Washington about China’s “hiding” information as the primary cause of the US Govt’s gross negligence are so cowardly and irresponsible as to be beneath contempt.

    Yup…massive lying is all that the empire has left…

    btw, what’s TEOTWAWKI…?

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  526. Issar says:
    @Corvinus

    Ok. However– Professor ‘Wolfgang’ doesn’t have to be entirely right or entirely wrong. It would be good for people to get the overall picture he’s presenting. That is, that a lot of people are ‘jumping on the bandwagon’ of a narrative that is highly questionable. I hope your’re open to the possibility that the narrative is questionable and there is a tremendous amount of fear mongering. Try this one–

    This is a good review of data from Dr. John Ioannidis, a Stanford professor

    Below is from the professor’s actual article about the data. I like how he describes what we’re doing.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/stanford-professor-data-indicates-were-overreacting-to-coronavirus

    A population-wide case fatality rate of 0.05% is lower than seasonal influenza. If that is the true rate, locking down the world with potentially tremendous social and financial consequences may be totally irrational. It’s like an elephant being attacked by a house cat. Frustrated and trying to avoid the cat, the elephant accidentally jumps off a cliff and dies.

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