From my experience there are big differences within black africans with british-nigerians outshining everyone else, especially british-somalis. Any data on that?

Three centuries of urban workers ripped off by aristocrats using central banking and the Empire. Now suicidal immigration is introduced. What do you expect?

The proportion of 16 year olds at private school is (as of 2010) more like 18% than 7% – so their exclusion represents a very significant bias:

https://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/2010/07/proportion-of-private-school-kids.html

Recalling the fate of a Georgetown University Law School professor who lamented to colleague in a private e-mail that ALL of her low performing students where negroes resulting in their both being fired. The former because of her observation, the latter for not objecting strenuously enough or failing to turn her in makes any teacher subjective evaluation of students worthless in the current climate.

I don’t doubt lower class British school children feel dispossessed by their nation and its elites. When have they ever demonstrated they care about the lower working class save during a national election. Unless and until lower class whites form a cohesive voting bloc like negroes and muslims that’s unlikely to change but if they did a lot would change including seeing to it that human debris like Tony Blair and David Cameron would actually have to earn a living.

The problem here in the UK is that there isn’t a party for the working classes to vote for. Indeed the situation is so desperate that the north of the country, formerly a labour stronghold, is voting Tory in desperation, much like the way working class Americans ended up voting for Donald Trump. The Labour party and the Greens are now parties of neo-liberalism and ‘wokeness’. UKIP were always economically right-wing but have now allied themselves with the likes of ‘Tommy Robinson’ (real name Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon) essentially helping to smear themselves. The Liberal party have always been lying whores lacking any real principles.

The situation is the same here as in America, any politician that attempts to kick back against the relentless anti-white propaganda is labelled ‘far-right’, even George Galloway has been described that way. Forming a coherent voting bloc is more or less impossible, we have no party to vote for. Making headway a new party with our current ‘first past the post’ system is well nigh impossible, just as it is in America.

Working class kids, especially the boys, are allowed no pride in their history and ethnicity and have little hope for their future. The only ray of sunshine in the whole rotten mess is that when the shit hits the fan we will still be a substantial majority.

” Indians also lean towards professionally qualified people.”

Does the author include the creatures that make up the Pakistani grooming gangs?

“…voting Tory in desperation, much like the way working class Americans ended up voting for Donald Trump.”

In the U.S., a Trump rally would routinely draw 10,000 or 20,000 genuinely — indeed wildly — enthusiastic supporters. The mood of these “working-class” supporters did not appear to be one of “desperation.”

(“working class” is a loaded term to me, by reason of having an unmerited negative connotation.)

Europe with all its technology must defer to black savages as sacred cows.

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— Dominik Tarczyński MEP (@D_Tarczynski) June 26, 2021

>https://committees.parliament.uk/publications/6364/documents/69838/default/

This link doesn’t work. It says that the page doesn’t exist.

Do you diss the privilege of having the opportunity of dying in Flanders for the money men?

I quote from the government’s PISA report:

“Another dimension of ethnicity that has caught policy attention in England is the educational challenges faced by pupils from White working class backgrounds.  

Evidence from PISA suggests, however, that the key issue surrounding the performance of White working class pupils is their underperformance relative to White pupils from more advantaged socio-economic backgrounds, and not their low performance relative to other ethnic groups.  
 
Specifically, there is no evidence that White working class pupils achieve lower PISA scores than working class pupils who are not of White ethnicity. In fact, the average science score across these two groups is quite similar (465 versus 477) and are statistically indistinguishable. Yet there is a more notable difference when it comes to pupils from advantaged socio-economic backgrounds. In particular, White pupils from the top ESCS quartile  achieve a science score around 40 points higher than high socio-economic status pupils who are not of White ethnicity. Finally, socio-economic inequality in PISA scores seems to be particularly pronounced for young people who are White. For instance, the gap between the top and bottom ESCS quartiles for White pupils is approximately 90 points (three years of schooling), which compares to a gap of 50 points for pupils not of White ethnic origin.  
 
These are the results presented in Figure 46.  Although this graph refers specifically to science, similar conclusions hold for reading and mathematics (see the online data tables for further details).   
 
Key point 
 
On average, young people of White ethnicity achieve significantly higher scores than young people of Black and Asian ethnicity. There is no evidence that White working class pupils achieve lower PISA scores than working class pupils who  are not of White ethnicity. Rather, their underachievement is more notable when compared to White pupils from more advantaged socio-economic backgrounds.”

We could include the Roma in with the Indian figure, two ends of the caste spectrum.

Of course. It’s all done on purpose. And all you’ll hear is how smart black africans are or muzzies….when the only reason any of those throwbacks has the opportunity to learn anything is precisely because those dumb racist Whites built it all and are the ones babysitting and educating all those third world throwbacks. blackie can’t get anything done in Africa but they sure as hell can come where everything has already been done .By the WHITE man.

“Nigerians”

I think it’s a Nigerian thing. Many times here in the states when the black applicant get’s accepted to “all” the ivy league universities they are the offspring of Nigerian immigrants AND almost always female.

All this inanity comes down to one thing…..how bad do you want it? If little black boys approached school and learning with the same vigor as basketball and or football who knows what they could achieve…..skies the limit IMHO.

To identify Roma with Indians after a thousand years of living in Europe and miscegenation with the native population is analogous to identifying the mulatto population with Whites.

Just as the mulatto have nothing to do with Whites, the Gypsies have nothing to do with the Indians. No if, and, and buts about it!

“the 7% in private schooling are not included in these results, which will cause some distortions, particularly if they are mostly White British professional classes, as seems very likely”

IME they’re a mixture of professional-class whites (British, Other – mostly Anglosphere) and Chinese, with some African etc. The effect probably depresses the stratospheric Chinese score at least as much as the white British score.

I agree with your comment. However, while it’s good that you will still be a “substantial majority” in the UK when TSHTF, the same is not true in the fast crumbling USA, where white school children under 18 are already a minority (less that 50% of the whole). And our demise is now on steroids with Biden’s open borders policy.

“Many times here in the states when the black applicant get’s accepted to “all” the ivy league universities they are the offspring of Nigerian immigrants AND almost always female.”

I see this too. My Nigerian (Christian) female Masters students on average are my second best students, as a cohort they’re behind only the male (white) German Masters students.

Until recently, Eastern European Gypsies were extremely endogamous. Thus they have a genetic disease rate comparable to the Jews. The haplogroup analysis of roma clearly indicates their North-Indian origin and shows their differences from other European ethnic groups.

This skin color thing is such nonsense. It is not like whites are some monolithic race. A good example of this is those who would call themselves “white supremacists” their very existence is proof against that claim. Any person regardless of color can make a go of this world if they have the will to do so–regardless of test scores. Does intelligence help? It can but it is “the wanting to” that counts most. I know a whole lot of smart people who are as much oxygen thieves as ghetto rats can be. I grew up with disadvantaged whites and was one myself–we just decided we didn’t have to stay that way and so we figured a way out. When you look at the bottom of the list and see the socially undesirables there, you have to realize that while they may not be able to quote Marx or Schopenhauer they can be some really cunning bastards–the kind of intelligence need for the life they live.

…a person’s ethnicity bears no relation to their natural ability or potential.

The biggest LIE you’ll read all day.

As you said, the grooming gangs are Pakistani rather than Indian.

The professionally-qualified In dians are generally high-caste Hindus. Some are Parsis.

Worked as ta in school – curriculum Frankfurt school psyops, biased against White boys.

Useless ethnic teachers too. Black kids know their own dysfunction, so picked up incompetent quicker than wb.

Hilter’s having a good laugh.

This is all splitting hairs really. Whites are now strangers in their own country. Everywhere there are foreigners who believe they have a ‘right’ to live in the UK. It is the Jews that tell them this. And the Jews have no right to live here.

Ultimately, and I write as an Englishman living in London, (a minority in our own capital city), just about all whites, (and Jews are not whites), have disengaged from what is nothing more than a refugee camp run by slavers and drug dealers.

Great Britain, Britain, United Kingdom or whatever you want to call it no longer exists to the vast amounts of indigenous whites. It did exist (as a Jewish run) nation that appeared to be white, within living memory. But as of today, the mess, the indescribably inefficiency, the utter total disaster, that has replaced the State.

When an indigenous people have been so used, abused and exploited (by the Jews and now unwanted untold masses of immigrants), they disengage from the living hell that is now everyday reality.

At no time, since 1066, has the difference between the stinking rich and the abject poor been so great as it is today. In such an environment, where the vast majority of the rich are foreigners, and almost exclusively the poor are the indigenous whites, then the whites retreat in to their own world.

Only this is now exacerbated because British enclaves like pubs, clubs and cafes have been closed or severely restricted by the psychopaths in Westminster using the Covid 19 scam as justification to abuse the white poor even more.

This article is an excellent example of not perceiving the elephant in the room…the Jews that have caused the real problem. Too many bloody foreigners that should not be here.

Black Africa should be nuked, along with big swathes of the Indian sub continent. Just for the hell of it take out 100 million Chinks also, because of corona. (Evil grin)
Oh, and of course Izruel.

“Many times here in the states when the black applicant get’s accepted to “all” the ivy league universities they are the offspring of Nigerian immigrants AND almost always female.”

I see this too. My Nigerian (Christian) female Masters students on average are my second best students, as a cohort they’re behind only the male (white) German Masters students.

I think you mean, specifically, the Igbo of Nigeria. The great success of the Igbo no doubt comes from the great missionary work of heroic Irish priests and nuns who set up parishes and first-rate schools among the Igbo a century ago. The Holy Ghost Fathers were among the crème de la crème of Irish missionaries and the Igbo embraced Catholicism—and, as E. Michael Jones would say, accepted Logos— and they have been blessed ever since.

Here’s a story of one of these heroic Irish missionaries who is now retired in the Boston Archdiocese of Boston (Massachusetts):

https://thebostonpilot.com/article.asp?ID=14302

Hyde Park pastor proclaimed chief for work in Nigeria

On: 2/10/2012,
By Christopher S. Pineo

BOSTON — In the darkness of a war that would claim an estimated three million lives, one Catholic priest kept the light of Christ burning in a parish through war-torn years in Nigeria.

The pastor of Most Precious Blood in Hyde Park Father Peter Nolan, CSSp, visited the Parish of the Assumption in Nimo, Nigeria, where from 1961 to 1969, over the course of two four-year stays, he helped build and sustain the parish even through the worst possible circumstances.

“The presence of God for some reason in the midst of suffering was greater than ever,” Father Nolan said, recalling his work as a missionary.

In recognition of the accomplishments of his ministry there 50 years ago, elders and tribal leaders made Father Nolan an honorary chief of the Ibo tribe at a ceremony on Dec. 31 celebrating the 100th anniversary of the arrival of the first missionaries in the town of Nimo.

“I was overwhelmed with the way I was received. It was very touching,” Father Nolan said.

After being installed as a chief of the town, under the name Ichie Ozioma I of Nimo, which translates “elder of the Gospel message” with the “I” meaning “the first,” elders brought him through the town so each household could present him with a traditional chicken and yam, given whenever a person becomes a chief…

Please:

Why not use the term “Indigenous British?”

‘White’ invites an American Far Left framing.

In Europe, the native people are ‘white’ but they are the indigenous population, the color of skin is a debumanization.

Black Africa yes, but after we deport all blacks back to the continent. Take out all those useless Indians yes but after we deport all in those coolies back to India.

But leave China alone or we will have an explosion of snakes, dogs, bats, worms and insects. God put these Chinks on earth to control the population of bugs and the lower animals.

We cannot upset the food chain.

Well, at least they’re being taught to hate themselves.

There’s always that.

I believe the Africans most represented in the UK are still Ghanaians , but I could be mistaken.

Anyway, IQ, and test score studies don’t work this way. IQ is immutable (from what I have read on this site for over a decade). If students score low it is because they are dumb, and if they are dumb it is probably because their parents are dumb. If a child was smart you could teach him how to read and throw some engineering textbooks in his crib and he would master them; ergo white kids in England are dumber than Black Africans, full stop. Argue with Charles Murray, not me.

Gee whiz – if ONLY those “heroic” Irish priests spent as much time and care on their own people as they do playing Do Gooder Savior to the Darling Darkies perhaps their own Race wouldn’t be vanishing from existence. …

Something which is not discussed is how many languages are now up for A-Levels and GCSE that aren’t taught in class. In essence their inclusion is to help foreign students who are native speakers. They get to take an A-Level or GCSE that they will get close to 100% for and which they don’t have to study for and which is an acceptable substitute for another language requirement.

You can say ‘Well they’re at least bi-lingual, let’s give them an advantage, English isn’t their first language’. But it avoids the fact that they defacto are taught English anyway, if another language was the world’s lingua franca British students would tend to be bilingual too, but it isn’t and being bilingual (In a language not taught in school) simply doesn’t mean the same thing for a British student as it does for a non-Anglophone. You aren’t testing people on a level playing field because the test is how well you do on the school subjects which tests motivation, memory and intelligence.

The test aren’t supposed to be tests of knowledge, they are supposed to be tests of intelligence and personality. That’s the implicit social contract of them. (Even if we all know they aren’t exactly, these language papers make them even less so to the sole advantage of foreign students.)

It’s a massive advantage and nobody talks about it. I think every official EU language was added as were Chinese and some others. It’s basically a give-away.

I suspect they’re Igbo but don’t know for sure. Certainly the Muslim students from northern Nigeria don’t perform anything like as well.

My Masters students are from overseas. I see some Ghanaians and they do well too.

Gypsy/Roma at the bottom, with a score of 23.3? Aren’t Roma/Gypsies from N India/Punjab??

There is also the snobbery that academic achievement is a marker of future outcomes. In the middle reaches of society, this may not be so. Bricklayers, turners, repair techs, car mechanics, actresses, hairdressers do not need outstanding school careers to have a decent life. If you have an alternative cultural anchor, you may not consider education to be so important. Tinkers and Gypsies can count money and tell lead from alumnium without a degree in metallurgy.

UKIP were and are state interventionists even more than Johynsoniam Tories. The Lib Dems are the only free market party left which is why you don’t understand them.

But the article doesn’t mention the Gypsies of Eastern Europe but the Western ones like the mother of Robert Plant, the lead singer of Led Zeppelin. Nevertheless, your point is well taken.

We are certain that it is not due to any ethnic trait: a person’s ethnicity bears no relation to their natural ability or potential.

This of course is dogma. Sort of puts the whole thing in a cocked hat. Doesn’t it.

Tell me I am a racist pig and the cause of all suffering in the world because I am White. I am a grown man. I know you are full of shit. I will tell you to kiss my lilly white ass. But if I find you abusing my children with your lies I will punish you.

He is correct.
There is no safe place to ride his bike!

They are not indigenous in England. They are invading immigrants, just an earier batch.

Look at the inventions that make modern first-world civilization possible and you will find a white inventor behind them.
If you hate your given race so much, YOU have a problem.
I haven’t seen a declared “white supremacist” in generations.

It’s interesting that Irish Travelers score so low, while those listed as White Irish score so high. And i would consider Irish Travelers to be white. I wonder if their poor performance is largely cultural, or if they are a largely inbred group suffering from dysgenics. As a side note, I recently saw the boxing match in which Irish Traveler Billy Joe Saunders got his face caved in by Mexican Canelo Alvarez. If someone who didn’t know either fighter from Adam was watching, they would have assumed that the tan-skinned Saunders was the Mexican, while the pale-skinned redheaded Alvarez was the British Islander. Of course, looking at it through America’s racial prism, Saunders would be the one with “white privilege” while Alvarez would be the oppressed victim.

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There must be something to that… Looking at the differences between Bangladeshi and Pakistani versus Indian students.

It must have something to do with the class of immigrants as noted…. British Caribbean territories had Nigerian and Ghanian as the biggest gene pools brought over as slaves. So Nigerians and British Caribbean share a lot of genes. So the disparity must have something to do with it.

From my experience there are big differences within black africans with british-nigerians outshining everyone else, especially british-somalis. Any data on that?

Not really data but from what I can tell there is a Muslim upper class in Nigeria that has some arabic background that can be very high up on the bell curve. I think they are a very small group but are probably over represented in immigrant populations. They certainly had no trouble outsmarting Washington state bureaucrats with massive Covid relief fraud.

But Igbo have a large influence on the Black British Caribbean. For instance – in Jamaica they were the #2 group (and by a close margin). So I think it has more to do with the upper echelon Nigerians being the migrants to England. Same with Indian vs Pakistani and Bangladeshi.

By reading what blacks did to white Afrikaners, whites should not place any hope that there will come a day when they will have a NAAWP, WET, White Congressional Congress, WLM or a government obsessed with using every asset and agency it controls for the betterment of POC, especially decedents of Black, Colored, Negro slaves whipped day and night by their white masters and forced to pick cotton in hot scorching sun, on large white owned plantations 150 years ago.
And don’t think for a minute that whites tomorrow will have a job waiting when they graduate, a seat at the Governors Ball, or a clean bed to sleep on within the many government housing plantations scattered across the United Socialist States of America, free to POC.
So gather round the campfire whitey, you are not welcome in the New World Order, eat canned beans, fart and move on, you ain’t worth the shit you leave behind. /s

The key is in the social and cultural backgrounds of the immigrants; Indians immigrants are usually from upper castes and better off families, with settled family lives and core ideas about studying and climbing the social ladder, etc. Pakistani immigrants are comparatively from a wider spectrum; so the ‘upwardly mobile drive’ is a bit less.

It’s up to the parents. It’s the land of their ancestors. It’s what their ancestors have built up and fought for. No one will help them and certainly not the communists in the U.K. that push the same anti-white narrative that the communist American left does. BOO HOO.!!

Wouldn’t it be great if the only compensation politicians receive is a chicken and yam!
Instead they leech off the peoples dime, doing absolutely nothing in return but pandering while getting rich off pay to play corporate bribery rackets.

This guy reminds of Michelle Obama’s cousin.
A true BLM soldier

Now to the larger issue. It is emotional, and highly misleading, to describe the normal range of human ability as meaning that some children have been “left behind”.

It’s that Woke dogma that all people are equal. It conveniently equates black underperformance with racist “white privilege”. While the wokes are in power then this is what you get.

And, apart from that. Why should poor white British children people have to fight it out with a mass of non-British immigrant children. If most other races can have their national homelands, that belong to them, and where they can be sheltered and helped by their own people – then why not the British (English, Scots and Welsh) in their homeland which is the British Isles. They’ve lived there for thousands of years and are even physically adapted to the cold and cloudy northern climate.

We can only assume using statistical analysis and forecast, that in the near future, learning centers and universities will become targets of racism as they were built by whites to teach white supremacy and therefore must be demolished and burned to the ground.
For example the Library of Alexandra in Egypt contained the most comprehensive collections of human knowledge known to man written on clay, stone, papyrus and parchment, many from a time before civilizations, where secrets of all knowledge began …after it was burnt to the ground, what had conveniently remained of its treasures is a translation of the first five books of the Hebrew Bible into Greek.
What secrets were our messiah cult overlords trying to hide?

This is the point that I think is being missed by a lot of the commentators on this thread and is certainly missed by the media in their reporting of this story. Regular English parents with a WC background are sceptical of higher education for its own sake and have always steered their young men into trades that will lead to a decent income. The dearth of WC young men at university is viewed from a middle class perspective as a bug, but from the WC perspective it is a feature.

That’s not so simple : Afrikaners that still hold on to family farming, and whom the Black militants love to attack, are a rarity, even under the end of apartheid they were more a historical souvenir maintained for identity purposes than a reality : agriculture was already what it is now : corporate and under anglo-Jewish administration, with the manpower black and the security guards Afrikaner. The latter are not in any danger as the Black elites hire them to ensure their protection against the mass of the Black plebs. Afrikaner security guards are in demand for what they do everywhere throughout the rest of Africa as of now, as they are generally trained by Israelis and follow Israeli orders continent-wide. What characterizes this special White identity is rabid wacko Zionism, that generally derives from their original Calvinistic identity. Poor Whites in SA were always poor even under apartheid as this country forbade any kind of revenue redistribution as ungodly, they were generally too undisciplined and alcoholic people to make it into the army and the police which were the sources of good revenues for the not so enterprising or intelligent. Now that police and army have got private things haven’t changed that much.

Newly Arrived Black Genius: Wut u do, i here first, jus cuz yo have no goat I no care, I kill you.
Cue Ahmed the Dead Terrorists.

Lying whores is what I called the Lib Dems, and that is what they are.

1) Paddy Ashdown went to Kosovo in June of 1998 and on March 14, 2002 testified that he was on the Kosovo-Albania border near Junik. From his perch at Junik, through his binoculars, Ashdown claimed to see Serbian forces torching, looting and shelling several villages.

Only problem there is a mountain in the way.

2) Nick Clegg deliberately scuppered an EU referendum after claiming to support one, the pretext he used was utter drivel.

3) The Lib Dems, again with Nick Clegg as leader, promised to oppose any rise in tuition fees. They reneged on that pledge as they whored themselves out to the Tory party in return for some cabinet posts and lamely rubbered stamped just about everything the Tories proposed.

What part of the term ‘lying whores’ did you not understand?

You get what you put up with.

The problem is, whites are as good at self-defense as blacks are at self-control.

In the case of blacks it’s both genetic and cultural.
In the case of whites it’s just cultural.

The result is that blacks aren’t punished for their lack of self-control.
But whites are punished if they are good at self-defense and if they’re not.

Conclusion

The future does not look good for whites.

Unless….

You might be right about Fahrenheit 451 taking anti-white resentment as a pretext but the library of Alexandria was burned several times, not once, and each time except the last (in the 14th century by the Ottomans, when the lighthouse was also finally destroyed by an earthquake) it was rebuilt and integrally refurnished with the same collection of books that was known by heart or nearly so : it was devoted exclusively to (supposedly Egyptian) magic and esotericism, it was not the scientific and literary hub of the Greek World but only the central New Age library of the Greek and Roman Empires. In that library you could find books of astronomy only in as much as they were about astrology first and foremost, to the point that mathematics meant astrology and divination through numerology for all practical purposes. The few books of arithmetic geometry that remain from that library were strictly for divination purposes.

Nothing is as predictable and easily reproducible when burnt as a corpus of occult sciences and the Alexandrine intelligentsia was just busy disparaging all bodies of objective knowledge, especially history, in favour of the occult : if for instance you were not so certain about matters related to the Punic Wars and had doubts about the official Roman story you checked by consulting the stars that had been presiding over these events. The highest form of science was occult and Egypt was the mother of the deepest occult tradition. We know that this library was devoted to the gnostic religions in general, which is always the case when occultism is considered as the one right way of solving problems.

Books about mechanics were not admitted as that realm of science was judged base, plebeian, sordid, like shoe-making and caravan-driving, or the practical geography of the Red Sea countries. Books written about those more practical subjects remained in private homes or company headquarters (we know for instance thanks to them that Mecca did not exist before the 8th century). All specialists convene upon that fact that Alexandria as an intellectual city radiated intensive obscurantism together with cosmological conceptions that condemned all forms of technical and social progress, like the 20th century New Age movement, and could have been one big influence that resulted into the Roman Empire’s arrested development.

Unless and until lower class whites form a cohesive voting bloc like negroes and muslims that’s unlikely to change but if they did a lot would change including seeing to it that human debris like Tony Blair and David Cameron would actually have to earn a living.

LOL.

But to be realistic, the lower classes haven’t the slightest hope of sweeping out the ruling rubbish.

The time of the workers in Britain has come and gone.

It came with the first wave of industrialization and the era of international conflict resolution by mass bayonet charge.

Then, a mass of common folk was required to work the industrial machine and to lay down their lives to resolve the international disputes of their country(‘s capitalist elites). This meant that a measure of elite deference to the interests of the working class was necessary to avoid both disruptive strikes and mutiny by the armed forces.

But automation and high tech weapons have eliminated the bargaining power of the proletarian masses. The industrial work force has been massively reduced, and the power of industrial workers unions has been broken, while the military value of an ill-educated person of below average intelligence is now less than zero.

The political system provides the common folk no relief since the political parties have, as you say, been taken over by the “debris,” which is to say agents of the actual ruling elite, the Money Power.

The result: mass immigration to drive down wages while driving up competition for housing, which underlies the stupendous profitability of property development.

The immigrants being, in general, from among the more able and energetic members of their native land naturally tend to outcompete the native British at all levels of society, including, increasingly, in Parliament, where surely, we have not long to wait for the first Muslim or Hindu Prime Minister.

Meantime, the impact of immigration on the indigenous British lower class is to reduce them to a category known elsewhere as white trash.

Added to the impact of immigration on the indigenous lower class is the effect of dysgenic breeding, particularly (1) welfare motherism, and (2) the promotion of girls’ education, gender equity and the high taxation of the middle class, all of which suppress the fertility of intelligent women. Together these factors assure catastrophic national degeneration.

Degeneration, that is, of the native race, as the new multi-colored, multi-culti Britain thrives.

Native pushback is out of the question. It would be RAAAACIST: which is another way of saying that “when treason prospers none dare call it treason.”

Wow, thank you FM. If I may ask, can you can point me to a couple of sources from which you write?
I’m always curious to learn alternative realities, even though I was not schooled with a proper education. Those with wisdom such as yours always fascinate me. I’m always pondering, where did they acquire their knowledge.

It’s not surprising that so many putative intelligent men have swallowed the propagandistic poison to such an extent it has infected their brains

https://www.iowafarmbureau.com/Article/Question-Do-cow-farts-really-contribute-to-global-warming

Jews control whites.

Jews say, whites obey.

Jews say that Jews, blacks, and homos are holy. So, whites must obey. It’s simple as that.

Whites have dog-mentality toward Jews. No matter how bad things get, the #1 priority of whites is “Do I have the approval of my holy Jewish master?”

Look at Charles Murray. He’s into HBD but still emotionally servile to Jews.

Three centuries of urban workers ripped off by aristocrats using central banking and the Empire. Now suicidal immigration is introduced. What do you expect?

I’ve come round to the idea that Great Britain had been an Imperial Power for such a long time that British society is itself a creation of Empire.

IOW it’s not just the giant neo-classical Imperial administrative buildings of central London and Edinburgh (that are still standing). The upper and middle classes were socially evolved/trained to run the Empire. Northern working class England didn’t come into it. They were a stunted and deracinated relic of the early 19th century Industrial Revolution (farm workers driven into factories and working under dreadful conditions).

Now that the UK itself is little more than a relic (an Imperial city with no Empire – modern day Constantinople) then the upper and middle classes have to mess around with affairs on their own little island – and they’re frankly not interested – the status and wealth of Empire have gone and they have zero interest in the English working class.

Yes, Dumb Americans think that Nelson Mandela destroyed white people in South Africa for some reason, no, the English are and were doing quite fine, the Dutch, are, and were poor drunks who like to fight and surf (this is my understanding, I’m sure it is a little simplistic) and the English have been ramming it up their rears since the wars.

Here is where what we call “white privilege” comes in: White people are always coming up with some number of white victims every year at the hands of blacks, because they see themselves as a godlike class of people.

S.A has always been a loose confederacy of 11 (more or less) tribes, 2 white, 9 black. The two white tribes where, historically the most vicious to each other, and the 9 black tribes always made war upon each other… and still do, they murder each other, kill, assault and rape each other, but when they do it two a white tribesman, it’s RACISM! (lol).

The White Working class have had a party defending them for real : it is called the Communist Party, and in its Cultural Revolution Maoist form it can wreak much havoc. Moreover it can be very attractive to just enough non-White workers to form a definite dangerous plurality among the present-day multicultural shit soup and show an unity the rest of that landscape fails to show. That party has not died and can still resort to an external power wishing to destroy the West : they could betray the West like the West has betrayed them. The problem that now multiply on the face of the earth are no longer of the kind that can be solved by AI. More and more practical skills of the kind that could rebuild civilisation rapidly or instantly in case of grand collapse are needed and will it or not the White working class, together with other colours that identify with the White as a model of work, are champions in them.

Once this is understood, this Committee will achieve the perspicacity of primary school children, who by being set the same tasks at the same age in the same classes quickly learn that some children are brainier than others.

I clearly remember being aware of an intelligence gradient in my classmates by third grade, about age eight. Probably earlier than that, but that’s when I remember ranking the smartest kids, the most athletic kids, and so on. I’ve wondered why so many people can deny the existence of varying levels of intelligence when they must surely have been aware as school children that some people are brighter than others, just as some are better at sports than others. Do they tell themselves it was all a mirage caused by the cause du jour? Maybe they literally never think about it in the context of their adult beliefs.

Mr. Thompson, save me the trouble of wading through the actual report, but what do the scores in the first table represent? You imply they are pass rates, but the pass rates for GCSE’s across all students is much higher – about 67%. Perhaps it factors in those students who don’t actually take exams. Or does it only count those students who get at least a grade c/4 (considered a decent pass)?

Exams, where the lowest pass mark is often between 20-30%, don’t strike me as being a particularly sophisticated means of measurement.

Just run him over, already! LOL.

Self-centered, entitled, impulsive, dangerously explosive animal. What he did to those windshield wipers is what he’d do to your neck if you got in his way. These are the types who push people off subway platforms if they so much as look at them sideways.

Send him back to the jungle.

James Thompson: White Europeans are to be miscegenated out of youth’s existence by the end of this century. Thats the plan. Pale, pinkish skin and blue or green eyes are to be very rare amongst youth in about 50 years (2 more generations)

Other than migrating away from countries under Anglo-Zionist control, we pretty much cant do anything about it. They hate us my friend. And they won.

I was in error – the actual pass rates for GCSEs are over 90%; the 67% (which did seem too low per my memory) refers to those who get grade C/4 or above. It seems that almost everyone who takes and completes (they often rely on continuous assessment) a GCSE exam gets a pass.

We heard many factors that may combine to put White working-class pupils at a disadvantage, including these key areas:

As opposed to “Thinking Class”????? The “Working Class” has always been at a disadvantage relative to the “Upper Class”.

You sound like a real low iq HONKIE dooshe, lol !!!

Bon appetit., little HONKIE shitbag, the wild mouth-watering Chinese diet might improve your tiny pea brain, lol !!!

UKIP was formed to destroy the BNP. Nigel admitted that was his goal.
https://www.amren.com/news/2004/08/we_will_destroy/
Free market is code for mass 3rd world immigration to maintain low wages.
There is nothing wrong with state intervention, if it protects the indigenous population. The only party willing to do that was the National Front/BNP.

That may be true, but carpenters/joiners, machinists, bricklayers and other trades use a lot of math and physics in their trades. If their kids aren’t able to handle that in school, they won’t be successful in the trades.

Three centuries of urban workers ripped off by aristocrats using central banking and the Empire.

It depends what you mean by aristocrats. There were two ways to enter: by service to the monarch and awarded land; or pay the monarch lots of money for a title. Many of the latter were instrumental in dismantling the old craft guild system and gained their wealth through the industrial revolution . They were anti worker and definitely ripped off workers, urban or otherwise. Most of the former had a mixture of tenant farmers and servants on their estates and employed hundreds. They are the ones who relied on good relations with the workers to maintain their estates.

“…agriculture was already what it is now : corporate and under anglo-Jewish administration.”

When did this start? What is the approximate timeframe that this corporate takeover of agriculture began? I mean, agriculture used to be run at one time by Afrikaners with family farms, didn’t it? When did these corporate giants take over?

Jim Christian, another commenter on this site, seemed to allude the other day (if I understood him correctly) that South Africa was dismantled and destroyed because corporations wanted to grab and control resources, and that this grab was accomplished under the guise and pretense of ending apartheid. Is this the case? Because this is what has gone through my mind re South Africa. The corporate elite could care less about Black people, but they did serve a useful purpose in getting them the resources they wanted.

Is this what happened?

“My Nigerian (Christian) female Masters students on average are my second best students, as a cohort they’re behind only the male (white) German Masters students.”

What discipline, what field of study?

“…they can be some really cunning bastards–the kind of intelligence need for the life they live.”

Game theory: if everybody cooperates, incentives accrue to the person who cheats.

The world is currently being run by psychopaths. If you don’t think like a psychopath, you are at a serious disadvantage.

The White Working class have had a party defending them for real : it is called the Communist Party …

Nah, the British working class is staunchly conservative, and wisely so.

The British Communist Party was founded by traitors in the pay of the Soviet-funded Communist Internationale, and never gained a significant following, or likely ever will.

The workers have been betrayed by the “human debris” that James refers to who have flogged off just about every viable British enterprise outside of the armaments industry. Any remaining members of the working class with energy and ambition will probably emigrate, like the Irish in the 19th Century.

As for the rest, the likes of BoJo and Starmer will quietly genocide them — kindly, quietly, through universal free contraception/sterilization, plus perhaps, free brothels for the livelier lads.

One element that will affect the response is that while whites will be looking at the data, it won’t be the children of those whites who are doing badly.

Europe with all its technology must defer to black savages as sacred cows

Haven’t the Euros yet discovered the ‘cowcatcher’?

Never having seen a cowcatcher on their home railroads, European travelers on American rail seemed fascinated by the device. They described the cowcatcher as “a sort of large shovel in front, which removes obstacles on the rails,” and they marveled that it simply scooped up a beast it encountered, “tossing her off left or right.”

Mhttps://movingnorthcarolina.net/the-cowcatcher/

‘…I see this too. My Nigerian (Christian) female Masters students on average are my second best students, as a cohort they’re behind only the male (white) German Masters students.’

You’ll need to be dealt with at some point.

South Africa was dismantled and destroyed because corporations wanted to grab and control resources,

Corporations already grabbed and controlled resources by economic power and conquest towards the end of the nineteenth century – mainly gold and diamonds by mainly the English and Jews.

and that this grab was accomplished under the guise and pretense of ending apartheid.

The majority whites, Afrikaners, were once again becoming too independent and assertive as happened during the two independent Boer republics in the nineteenth century, cramping the style of empire and the resource magnates.
Replacing the Afrikaner/white government of South Africa, which had turned more nationalistic and independent since 1948, with a more manipulable inexperienced black government, suited the internationalists and its corporations. It also facilitated the transfer of land (farms) from Afrikaner/whites to blacks and then to corporations – a work in progress.
So, yes, it was a major, but not only factor.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiZutmU8cXxAhVJZM0KHSBLAeAQwqsBMAB6BAgFEAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DEFYIkCzmUkE&usg=AOvVaw0JwojitopKFowADlEZoV6n

Thank you for your response. Yes, I knew about the diamonds and gold and the Boer Wars, and I knew the White farmers were being forced off their land (often brutally) in order that Blacks may take over these farms and produce their own crops because after all, we were told, Blacks should own South Africa, not Whites.

But I did not know that international corporations were in on this farmland too. Duh, I should have known better. They’re everywhere else (Asia, South America, other parts of Africa), so of course they would be buying up South Africa.

Is this what’s happening? They take the land from Whites and give it to Blacks, all done under the guise of being benevolent, but the ultimate goal is that the land ends up in globalist/corporate hands?

Yes, I often describe the Ruling Class as seeing Whites as being too “uppity”, but what you said is more accurate: too independent, assertive, nationalistic. The Ruling Class don’t mind if you burn each other’s homes/businesses down or kill one another, but they will NOT tolerate you ever being independent or nationalistic. That’s a threat to their very existence, their banking system, their looting operations. Why, you might discover that you can grow your own food and develop good and fair trading practices, and they don’t want that.

So the South African Whites built a beautiful country, only to have it destroyed by the Ruling Class (just as they are destroying the U.S. today). What a crying shame.

and they built what’s there

they have the claim, not these useless interlopers and parasites

You hit on it with the Irish Travelers: Inbreeding and dysgenics. Their wedding rituals put shame on anything out of Appalachia.

I really got you, didn’t I? lol !!!

LOL, you gelding and troll! You get off on this stuff in your mother’s basement apartment, don’t you?
I know you don’t know what gelding means. LOL

The Irish Clergy are a critically endangered species now; ten or more retiring or dying in sacerdotal office for every newly-ordained priest.

Mother Ireland is actually importing Goanese and Nigerian priests and has been for some years.

Your disconnection from reality?

Yes according to haplogoup based genetic analysis the ancestrors of gypsies were from Pujab-actually their closest relatives belong to dalit tribes. So it is not so unbelieable that the IQ of European gypsies is around 75.

You sound like you are describing yourself pretty well. my dear boy. LOL !!!

‘Dear boy’? Very telling. LOL 😆

Don’t get your hopes up, dear boy. LOL !!! Airborne All The Way !!!!

Yeah airborne. LOL

Yes, Airborne All The Way and some when you were in diapers. LOL !!!

You’re in diapers now. ROFL

That makes two of us, dear boy. LOL !!!

About half of Pakistanis are products of multi-generational first cousin marriage.

Pakistanis are Indians, East and West Pakistan were creations of the British government when they were giving up India. The purpose of this was to give the mainly Hindu subcontinent to the new nation of India and the two areas of majority Muslim inhabitants East and West Pakistan to the Muslims. This was to separate the two groups that had been fighting for centuries. East Pakistan renamed itself Bangladesh in the 70’s and separated in a bloody civil war. Collectively they are all part of the old British colonial possession of India and continue to be collectively called Indians. The majority language in India is Hindustani and the majority language in Pakistan is Urdu. They are the same language except that Urdu is written in Arabic script and Hindustani is written in Hindu script. They also share many cultural similarities that allows them to be collectively called Indians.

On the non-verbal items, which probably the least likely to be accused of cultural bias, the Chinese students at 112.1 are 17.5 points higher than the Black Caribbean students at 94.6. White British are at 101.3 on this measure, Black Africans 94.1. There is plenty to debate here, even though these data are not the same year as the scholastic data, but it is hard to understand why the Parliamentarians reject the hypothesis that cognitive differences between genetic groups have a genetic component.

Professional politicians don’t want to upset the moral elect on Twitter.

Groups like Hope not Hate and Campaign Against Antisemitism would link such a hypothesis to WWII.

In 2000 the Guardian newspaper tried to get a British government minister canceled for merely attending a function where Charles Murray was present.

Correct… it’s not “just” race. That is part of it – but it absolutely matters what level the immigrant family was before they got to the new country. Different races have different IQ’s. That is normal to have discrepancies… But when comparing people of similar race – and seeing such disparity – it tells there is another story at play.

But you didn’t answer my question – what do the scores in the first chart represent?

The parents don’t want their boys to be totally ignorant when they leave school. Its just that they are sceptical of a university education. The maths, arithmetic really, needed for the trades has nothing to do with the maths done at university.

O/T.

Doc, months ago I commented that I’d noticed one virtue to masks (conceivably the only virtue to masks): I’ve never sneezed wearing my mask. The penny has dropped though it’s taken a mighty long time. The mask protects my nose from pollen and other irritants and, bingo!, no sneezes.

Mind you, I can’t imagine that I’ll want to wear a mask just for this minor virtue. I’ll be so glad to see the back of the ruddy things. Of course if they worked there would be a balance to strike between inconvenience/discomfort and efficacy. But since they don’t …

I wonder whether there could be a business opportunity in supplying comfortable masks to the hay fever-prone during the spring/early summer exam season?

I find that I need a full respirator (KN95) to acheive that level of result but it does mean that I don’t dread summer now. People do stare a little when I am walking through the park with a respirator. I think that there is an opportunity and I have good relations with a Chinese supplier but there would be substantial rebranding and promotional costs.

OT: I do not have a twitter account

Someone seems ignorant attacking Murray purely from his own imagination without facts.

Farhad Namin, Ph.D. @farhad1356
Replying to @farhad1356 and @charlesmurray
I often try to be fair minded and give @charlesmurray the benefit of the doubt but then he makes these kinds of statements and I think maybe @ezraklein was onto something.

Charles Murray @charlesmurray
I was not stating an opinion about legacy admissions; simply pointing out that Harvard has so many high-scoring white children of alumni that they can apply legacy favoritism without affecting the SAT mean of white (non-athlete) admissions.

From a self reported Harvard sample from collegedata.com:

SAT | SATmin | SATmax | N | Group | Status
1440.97 | 400?? | 1600 | 59 | All | Accepted <– include athletes
1482.43 | 1050 | 1600 | 115 | All | Wait-Listed <– higher mean as high scoring Asians are wait-listed

SAT | SATmin | SATmax | N | Legacy | Status
1572.0 | 1490 | 1600 | 5 | X | Accepted
1412.5 | 1220 | 1540 | 8 | X | Wait-Listed

Wai’s Uni Entry SAT Cutoff:
SAT25 | SAT50 | Uni
1410 | 1505 | Harvard University

A much better picture for Harvard is to include the ‘Denied’ data.

SAT | SATmin | SATmax | N | Group | Status
1440.97 | 400? | 1600 | 59 | All | Accepted
1422.63 | 970 | 1600 | 415 | All | Denied < — high scoring (Asians?) rejected outright
1482.43 | 1050 | 1600 | 115 | All | Wait-Listed

SAT | SATmin | SATmax | N | Legacy | Status
1572.0 | 1490 | 1600 | 5 | X | Accepted
1455.0 | 1320 | 1550 | 8 | X | Denied
1412.5 | 1220 | 1540 | 8 | X | Wait-Listed

Pakistanis are heavily Mirpuri, the lowest people in Pakistan.

I look forward to seeing your adverts for the GCSE mask and the A-level mask. If universities still do exams then you could also sell the Varsity grade. All strength to your arm.

“it is hard to understand why the Parliamentarians reject the hypothesis that cognitive differences between genetic groups have a genetic component”

Because they would come under attack as racist Nazis from well organised lobby groups, many, many of them. Starting with all the teaching unions. And low-information voters* would think there can’t be smoke without fire.

Just take a look at the reaction to Priti Patel’s eminently sensible idea that countries who refuse to take back “asylum seekers” should have UK visas denied or made more restrictive.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jul/06/uk-to-block-visas-from-countries-refusing-to-take-back-undocumented-migrants

More than 250 organisations – including the Refugee Council, the British Red Cross, Freedom from Torture, Refugee Action and Asylum Matters – have joined to form the coalition Together with Refugees to call for a more effective, fair and humane approach to asylum in the UK.

* this category includes just about the entire population. It’s amazing how a well crafted BBC drama series can retcon history even in people with first hand memories of the period – witness the effect of It’s A Sin, written and directed by a talented (gay) propagandist, on middle class professional women, who at the time were crapping themselves about HIV (despite being very low risk themselves). The recent BBC prison drama Time did more for the anti-prison lobby than any number of Guardian editorials.

It’s hard to imagine the kind of white woman who would willingly engage in coitus with Gypsies. The latter don’t even have the charming personalities, athletic and muscular bodies and large sex organs that are common among blacks. And they have same low IQ as non-Igbo (and likely a few other tribes) blacks.

O/T again, doc.

It would seem that the results of Social Science can be – how shall I put it? – rather haphazard.

https://osf.io/preprints/metaarxiv/cd5j9/

Also, times are tough down the Psychology mills.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/how-do-you-know/202106/the-science-reform-brain-drain

Hat tip for this and the previous comment to https://fantasticanachronism.com

It’s full of good stuff in links e.g.

This week, I was thrilled to read about the first well-documented case of explicit academic fraud in the artificial intelligence community. I hope that this is the beginning of a trend, and that other researchers will be inspired by their example and follow up by engaging in even more blatant forms of fraud in the future.

And, of interest to at least one of Doctor Thompson’s Light Horse:

The Lead-Crime Hypothesis: A Meta-Analysis. “When we restrict our analysis to only high-quality studies that address endogeneity the estimated mean effect size is close to zero.”

Golly, there’s more. In his June 14th post he comments on immigration:

You can’t fill a fiscal hole by adding more fiscal burdens to your society

Read this chap before the Wokeists cancel him.

From the supplementary data to Murray’s new book, National Longitudinal Study NLS-72 grade 12 students later years performance,

Job=Social scientists, JobIQmean=111.1, JobIQSD=14.7, Study: NLS-72
+————-+——-+——-+—-+———–+
| Group IQavg | IQmin | IQmax | N | basicrace |
+————-+——-+——-+—-+———–+
| 117.0 | 117 | 117 | 1 | Arab |
| 93.67 | 89 | 101 | 3 | |
| 112.93 | 81 | 135 | 76 | White |
| 98.0 | 64 | 120 | 11 | Black |
+————-+——-+——-+—-+———–+

Elsewhere there are discussion of the IQ of police recruits,

Job=Police & detectives, JobIQmean=100.0, JobIQSD=12.3, Study: NLS-72
+————-+——-+——-+—–+———–+
| Group IQavg | IQmin | IQmax | N | basicrace |
+————-+——-+——-+—–+———–+
| 103.9 | 91 | 127 | 10 | |
| 95.08 | 79 | 120 | 12 | Other |
| 79.0 | 79 | 79 | 1 | Asian |
| 92.94 | 69 | 113 | 31 | Black |
| 102.63 | 56 | 127 | 112 | White |
+————-+——-+——-+—–+———–+

The data source url and more results in next message.

Although some White could be left behind in schools, some of them seem to be doing well in later life in a non-meritocratic system. For example in US there are National Longitudinal Studies NLS of grade 12 students and track their performance later on in life. The data are aggregated together in Murray’s book “Facing Reality: Two Truths about Race in America”,
https://www.encounterbooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Combined-Longitudinal-Studies-0615.xlsx

Some example of the data. Of cause all statisticians are smart. /s

Job=Statisticians, JobIQmean=118.8, JobIQSD=13.1, Study: NLS-72
+————-+——-+——-+—-+———–+
| Group IQavg | IQmin | IQmax | N | basicrace |
+————-+——-+——-+—-+———–+
| 117.54 | 103 | 141 | 13 | White |
+————-+——-+——-+—-+———–+

Job=Physicians, JobIQmean=119.8, JobIQSD=11.2, Study: NLS-72
+————-+——-+——-+—-+———–+
| Group IQavg | IQmin | IQmax | N | basicrace |
+————-+——-+——-+—-+———–+
| 122.0 | 122 | 122 | 1 | So Asian |
| 116.0 | 116 | 116 | 1 | E Asian |
| 116.0 | 116 | 116 | 1 | Arab |
| 114.5 | 114 | 115 | 2 | Asian |
| 116.5 | 106 | 129 | 4 | Other |
| 114.2 | 101 | 127 | 5 | |
| 113.13 | 90 | 136 | 8 | Black |
| 119.78 | 77 | 137 | 89 | White |
+————-+——-+——-+—-+———–+

Job=Teachers: College & university, JobIQmean=114.4, JobIQSD=13.6, Study: NLS-72
+————-+——-+——-+—–+———–+
| Group IQavg | IQmin | IQmax | N | basicrace |
+————-+——-+——-+—–+———–+
| 121.0 | 118 | 125 | 3 | Asian |
| 112.0 | 112 | 112 | 1 | Amerind |
| 117.0 | 104 | 130 | 2 | E Asian |
| 107.5 | 98 | 117 | 2 | |
| 102.67 | 88 | 122 | 6 | Other |
| 115.68 | 86 | 141 | 100 | White |
| 101.6 | 73 | 126 | 10 | Black |
+————-+——-+——-+—–+———–+

Job=Physical & life scientists, JobIQmean=112.0, JobIQSD=13.4, Study: NLS-72
+————-+——-+——-+—-+———–+
| Group IQavg | IQmin | IQmax | N | basicrace |
+————-+——-+——-+—-+———–+
| 133.0 | 133 | 133 | 1 | E Asian |
| 95.0 | 95 | 95 | 1 | Filipino |
| 103.17 | 91 | 114 | 6 | Black |
| 103.5 | 88 | 114 | 4 | |
| 87.0 | 87 | 87 | 1 | Other |
| 112.87 | 83 | 136 | 75 | White |
+————-+——-+——-+—-+———–+

Job=Armed forces, JobIQmean=101.3, JobIQSD=14.5, Study: NLS-72
+————-+——-+——-+—–+———–+
| Group IQavg | IQmin | IQmax | N | basicrace |
+————-+——-+——-+—–+———–+
| 99.0 | 99 | 99 | 1 | Asian |
| 79.0 | 79 | 79 | 1 | Amerind |
| 93.43 | 78 | 105 | 7 | Other |
| 104.4 | 64 | 127 | 121 | White |
| 92.72 | 64 | 121 | 32 | Black |
+————-+——-+——-+—–+———–+

Job=CEOs, JobIQmean=109.0, JobIQSD=14.7, Study: NLSY-79
+————-+——-+——-+—-+———–+
| Group IQavg | IQmin | IQmax | N | basicrace |
+————-+——-+——-+—-+———–+
| 119.0 | 119 | 119 | 1 | E Asian |
| 114.0 | 114 | 114 | 1 | Asian |
| 100.0 | 100 | 100 | 1 | Filipino |
| 112.33 | 82 | 145 | 72 | White |
| 101.43 | 82 | 134 | 7 | Black |
| 93.2 | 81 | 111 | 5 | Other |
| 89.67 | 81 | 104 | 6 | |
+————-+——-+——-+—-+———–+

Job=Computer programmers & analysts, JobIQmean=111.2, JobIQSD=13.2, Study: NLS-72
+————-+——-+——-+—–+———–+
| Group IQavg | IQmin | IQmax | N | basicrace |
+————-+——-+——-+—–+———–+
| 113.5 | 104 | 123 | 2 | E Asian |
| 104.0 | 104 | 104 | 1 | Amerind |
| 105.0 | 82 | 133 | 12 | Other |
| 113.6 | 78 | 141 | 273 | White |
| 98.77 | 77 | 124 | 39 | Black |
| 105.4 | 77 | 133 | 20 | |
| 105.33 | 71 | 120 | 6 | Asian |
+————-+——-+——-+—–+———–+

Job=Engineers, JobIQmean=110.5, JobIQSD=13.6, Study: NLS-72
+————-+——-+——-+—–+———–+
| Group IQavg | IQmin | IQmax | N | basicrace |
+————-+——-+——-+—–+———–+
| 112.0 | 112 | 112 | 1 | E Asian |
| 105.0 | 104 | 106 | 2 | So Asian |
| 108.33 | 102 | 116 | 3 | Asian |
| 112.33 | 89 | 131 | 3 | Amerind |
| 94.0 | 85 | 103 | 2 | HiPac |
| 97.11 | 82 | 115 | 9 | Other |
| 81.0 | 81 | 81 | 1 | |
| 112.13 | 78 | 142 | 277 | White |
| 98.04 | 75 | 123 | 25 | Black |
+————-+——-+——-+—–+———–+

Job=Media & communications workers, JobIQmean=102.9, JobIQSD=12.4, Study: NLS-72
+————-+——-+——-+—-+———–+
| Group IQavg | IQmin | IQmax | N | basicrace |
+————-+——-+——-+—-+———–+
| 93.75 | 89 | 99 | 4 | Other |
| 101.33 | 87 | 112 | 6 | Black |
| 105.38 | 83 | 134 | 24 | White |
| 100.75 | 80 | 116 | 8 | |
+————-+——-+——-+—-+———–+

Job=Low-skill manual labor, JobIQmean=89.1, JobIQSD=14.5, Study: NLS-72
+————-+——-+——-+—–+———–+
| Group IQavg | IQmin | IQmax | N | basicrace |
+————-+——-+——-+—–+———–+
| 112.0 | 112 | 112 | 1 | E Asian |
| 93.0 | 93 | 93 | 1 | HiPac |
| 94.5 | 93 | 96 | 2 | Filipino |
| 92.0 | 92 | 92 | 1 | Arab |
| 90.0 | 90 | 90 | 1 | Asian |
| 97.9 | 62 | 128 | 10 | Amerind |
| 94.46 | 59 | 143 | 311 | White | <– what are they doing here??
| 81.66 | 55 | 106 | 35 | Other |
| 81.09 | 55 | 107 | 206 | Black |
| 91.37 | 55 | 120 | 30 | |
+————-+——-+——-+—–+———–+

Some of those IQ mins by profession are stunning.

They are hard to believe. Measurement error? Categorisation error? (How do they check a participant’s claimed occupation?)

The outlier I find easy to believe is that some clever people end up doing unskilled manual labour.

A few years ago Cambridge awarded an honorary MA degree to a local road sweeper in acknowledgement of his contribution to local history and other services to town and gown. It may be that clever labourers are rather idiosyncratic characters.

https://www.cam.ac.uk/news/two-honorary-mas-awarded-for-outstanding-service

(N.B. Note that this award was made long before the blight of wokeism descended upon us.)

The bleakness of meritocracy s worth a whole post by itself. Why not a smart farmer, an athletic farmer, an artistic farmer, a spiritual farmer? Too much sameness of whatever talent will kill progress anyway.

Some correction. The summary data given earlier were mislabelled and they were from the aggregated 3 NLS studies, i.e. NLS-72, NLSY-79 and NLSY-97. It is strange that even very serious profession like physician making life and death decisions could be resorting to equality of outcome and poaching potentially very capable nurses, and could downgrade the quality of nursing.

In US there is pre-med, assuming min entry IQ is 115. Qualified MD should be 120+ but there are significant number of locally qualified MD with IQ below 115. May be that is why US needs many MDs from India.