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John McWhorter, who teaches at Columbia, is one of a handful of blacks who write sensible things about race. He complains that the media bellow whenever police kill a black man but are silent when they kill a white man, and worries that claims of “systemic racism” are leading to a movement to exempt blacks from standards.

But Prof. McWhorter’s Substack review of Charles Murray’s latest book, Facing Reality, is deliberately blind. Its value goes beyond Prof. McWhorter, however, because it’s an explicit statement of the mental prison people on the Left and Right build for themselves — and for the country: “I reject facts I don’t like.”

Prof. McWhorter starts by patting himself on the back for his broadmindedness — “Murray’s work is too carefully reasoned and too deeply founded on scholarly sources to be dismissed as ‘racist’ ” — though he will dismiss it for equally disgraceful reasons.

Prof. McWhorter summarizes the book:

Facing Reality is seriously disturbing. Murray gives a great deal of evidence for two points. One is that black people aren’t, on the average, as intelligent as other people. The other is that black people in America are more violent than others.

Prof. McWhorter accepts that blacks are more violent, but insists it’s because of welfare, drugs, fatherlessness, etc. The part about IQ, though, “is tough reading.” Instead of attacking Dr. Murray’s data — he admits he can’t — he writes:

I suspect, in my gut, that the issue is cultural . . . . Abstract tests are a highly artificial thing . . . . Black American culture may be less consonant with that way of approaching things than white or Asian culture, and . . . could subtly discourage black kids from mastering the knack of jumping through the hoop.

Prof. McWhorter surely knows that white and Asian children do not spend their weekends “mastering the knack” of Raven’s Progressive Matrices. Still, he prefers to think blacks are just as smart, but have a “subtle cultural resistance to demonstrating it.” To his credit, he adds: “I openly admit, though, that this is also the way I hope it is, and that’s not science.” His hopes are no defense against Prof. Murray’s data.

There’s worse: “[I]t’s reasonable to ask of Murray: Why are you airing this information?” This is an odd question from someone who “airs” widely ignored information on crime rates and police killings. The subject of race and IQ just bothers him. I suppose it’s impossible to expect even an associate professor at Columbia to understand that Dr. Murray might just want to correct a widespread error.

Prof. McWhorter cites Dr. Murray’s own reasons for this unfortunate “airing:” “One is that Affirmative Action too often puts semicompetent people in government jobs.” But as Dr. Murray points out, it’s a whole lot more than “government jobs.” For example, white K-12 teachers and nurses have a 15-point IQ advantage over black teachers and nurses, and this is reflected in their performance ratings. Prof. McWhorter wants good schools for blacks. Wouldn’t he want good teachers for them, even if they are white? But he’s not worried by affirmative action: “I have a hard time seeing this [legions of semicompetents] as precisely a national tragedy.” He needs to look a little harder. Obsessions with “diversity” are already corrupting science itself. As one wag put it, in a country turning brown, the national tragedy of incompetence “will come slowly, then suddenly.”

Prof. McWhorter cites Dr. Murray’s other reason to let loose with the facts about race and IQ: “[I]dentity politics — as in racial set-asides and a tacit media conspiracy to keep disproportionate rates of black crime under wraps — is about to create a revolutionarily inclined white identity that will plunge America into a race war.” That’s a very poor summary of Dr. Murray’s argument, which I describe better — and dissect — here. Prof. McWhorter shrugs it off as alarmist.

Finally, here is Prof. McWhorter’s true objection to learning about race and IQ: If the facts are as Dr. Murray says, meritocracy would mean that “we need to accept an America in which black people are rarely encountered in jobs requiring serious smarts.” He adds: “I would have to work very hard to come up with a way of accepting that world.” So there you have it. Prof. McWhorter wants a certain kind of world, and doesn’t care how many facts we have to smother and how many whites and Asians we have to punish for him to get it.

Anyone who thinks for a living — and I imagine that’s what Prof. McWhorter fancies himself — must accept data, no matter how disagreeable, if he can find no fault with them. Anything less is cowardice or bad faith.

Prof. McWhorter’s funk over the data is important because he isn’t just anybody. He’s not completely blinded by the fog that hangs over every American university. He writes about the folly of thinking that it is “racist” to expect blacks to get math answers right. He ridicules the vendetta against Dr. Seuss. He worries about Critical Race Theory and the progressives’ grim “duty of identifying racism wherever they can find it.” He realizes that “woke” mobs are taking over institutions and “the alt-right” isn’t, and that there’s something wrong when people seriously claim that music theory is “white supremacist.”

But Prof. McWhorter has no idea where the madness comes from. He refuses to understand that it comes from denying the very facts he wants Charles Murray to shut up about. What explanation for black failure can there be but “white racism” if we can’t talk about race differences? Prof. McWhorter’s “culture” explanation only pushes the “racism” explanation back a step. How did blacks, stripped by slavery of their original culture, get this miserable “culture”? Obviously, whites gave it to them. That’s why we have to discover and root out imagined “racism” in music theory and in police shootings and in Prof. McWhorter’s favorite Dr. Seuss book. It’s also why Critical Race Theory is indispensable: It is the inherent malevolence of every living white man, boy, and baby that stifles the native genius of the black race. Blacks can reach their potential only when whites learn how awful they are, and dedicate their lives to atonement.

Many people would say of Prof. McWhorter: “Of course he can’t accept the truth. He’s black.” I don’t like that argument. Anyone with imagination can see past the end of his own nose when he looks at the world. I know no race realist who doesn’t accept the data on IQ differences between whites and Asians (though Prof. McWhorter seems to fear only the black/white gap, not the even greater black/Asian gap).

Like it or not, Prof. McWhorter is braver than almost every white academic. He read Facing Reality and didn’t just call it trash. He admitted he can’t disprove the data and that his “hopes” about black IQ “aren’t science.” That is a lot further than most whites would go.

I suspect Prof. McWhorter is mentally hobbled by something more than his race. Our climate of racial-moral zealotry doesn’t just punish people who say the wrong thing; it makes them incapable of even thinking the wrong thing.

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  1. QUESTION:
    What drives the fear of admitting blacks cannot function in civilized societies anywhere on Earth ?

    ANSWER:
    It’s not IQ because that issue is self evident. The realization that the costs to remove (not manage) blacks from civilized societies is enormous and nobody wants to pay it. The removal costs would overwhelmingly be born by whites whose pathological empathy limits their ability to collectively enact expensive and decisive action.

    THEREFORE:
    The removal costs must be shifted to blacks themselves but more likely through taxation of jewish financial interests.

  2. This guy looks like “the Exterminator” from Seinfeld, George Costanza’s only black friend. Is he here on in your column to show that you too have a black friend too, Mr. Taylor? ;-}

    (I could find a better clip, sorry.)

    • Replies: @threestars
    , @Shmoopy
  3. He can’t accept the reality of IQ because he’s black…..and it would mean that he’d have to see himself and his own family members as inferior.

    So, in the end, he’s happy to blame black failure on whitey, which is the current default.

  4. Jared Taylor: “I suspect Prof. McWhorter is mentally hobbled by something more than his race. Our climate of racial-moral zealotry doesn’t just punish people who say the wrong thing; it makes them incapable of even thinking the wrong thing.”

    McWhorter is hobbled by the racial egalitarian premise of American culture arising from Christianity. Christianity aims at control of all of man’s actions and even his thoughts. E.g.,

    “But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart. ”
    – Matthew 5:28

    Purging your mind of evil thoughts is part of being a good Christian. It’s proof of your virtue.

    Jared Taylor: “To his credit, [McWhorter] adds: “I openly admit, though, that this is also the way I hope it is, and that’s not science.” His hopes are no defense against Prof. Murray’s data.”

    Nevertheless, many white people would agree with him. McWhorter’s rationalization is typical. In accord with their Christian roots, Americans must believe that hoping something is true strongly enough can even overcome reality itself. Thus, for American racial egalitarians like McWhorter, data doesn’t matter; facts don’t matter.

    “Truly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be taken up and thrown into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what he says will come to pass, it will be done for him.”
    – Mark 11:23

    Beyond citing a “climate of racial-moral zealotry”, I note that the article doesn’t really provide an answer to the implied question of its title. Even now that I’ve supplied it, will Jared Taylor, a child born to Christian missionaries, ever understand “why people can’t face the truth”? It seems unlikely to me that he will. That Christianity is why people can’t fact the truth about race is a truth that Jared Taylor himself can’t face. Nor is he alone.

  5. 216 says: • Website
    @Robert Dolan

    McWhorter doesn’t want to be cancelled, he enjoys his center-left celebrity.

  6. jsinton says:

    I would argue it’s almost impossible to determine where “toxic black culture” ends, and inferior black IQ begins. We’re always trying to compare apples with oranges, and then somebody decides that “apples should be able to self-identify” as oranges. In other words, logic is not a constant, and extreme dogma tends to move the goalpost a lot. I think there is a lot to be said for the toxic effects of modern black culture as opposed to say Asian culture that stresses study and hard work. Some of the smartest people I have known happen to have been black. Some of the most incapable people I have met were Chinese or Japanese. So there is plenty of room for debate here.

    • Disagree: Irish Savant
    • LOL: Currahee, 3g4me
  7. While I agree with Taylor, there are always potential problems with data. Actuaries use data to determine life expectancy – when people are born, and when they die. The data doesn’t take into account the cause of death. WWII shortened the life expectancy of an estimated 55 million people. Is life expectancy really longer today than when tables were developed in the 60s using deaths covering that time period?
    Early childhood studies have shown that undernourished children, irrespective of race, lag behind well nourished children, and that if that isn’t addressed prior to starting school, they tend to fall further behind academically.
    That is not to say that Murray’s data is misleading, only that it would be near impossible to attack without knowing the exact circumstances of each of those from whom the data is compiled.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
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  9. Tom F. says:

    Like most of us that aren’t complete Narcissistic Sociopaths, McWhorter inwardly thinks of himself as unexceptional. “If I can do it, so can my fellow Blacks, right?”

    He’s trapped. If he admits that he is an outlier to the upside, then he has identified himself as a Narcissistic Sociopath. And he will have given up on his ‘hopes’ for a smoothing of opportunity/outcome, without having to acknowledge the painful (to him) IQ data. He will have to admit that the crime-and-violence data, which is replicated all over the world, is significant of something more than ‘systemic racism.’

    I had a difficult conversation with a family member this holiday weekend, one that began with them bemoaning the ‘lack of diversity’ (meaning Blacks, because there are plenty of East Asians, Middle Easterns, and South Asians) in the neighborhood. Lots of engineers, doctors, attorneys, high-earning professionals. I pointed them to Table 43 – FBI Crime statistics, and then the Countries by IQ ranking for 2020. They had zero interest in facts, and instead pre-emptively began to deconstruct ‘the white man’s law’ and ‘the white man’s test.’ Okay, whatever.

    Appreciate Jared Taylor’s review.

  10. Corvinus says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    People do accept the truth that the jury is still out regarding whether certain racial distinctions are nature or nurture.

    • LOL: Realist
    • Troll: Clyde
  11. SafeNow says:

    I read that WSJ article about a week ago (diversity subverting the CDC). I especially noticed with relief and approval the mention in the article that affirmative-action scientists tend to gravitate to epidemiological studies rather than the more rigorously technical. This self-sorting is very important, in all fields. This was the grand bargain: You give me the job, and promotions, and I will confine myself to the more perfunctory positions. A supporting justification often heard was that intelligence is more than smarts in the IQ-text sense; Blacks are actually superior in non-IQ-test aspects of intelligence.

    The problem is that The Grand Bargain is breaking down. With the empowerment of Blacks, a Black nurse might bring a different attitude toward her job assignment, and reject the perfunctory. She saves as many lives with her perfunctory job on the team as do others. She should accept it with pride.

    • LOL: Dave Bowman
    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    , @aj54
  12. Why can’t people face the truth? Same reason Taylor censors those who name Jewish Power at American Renaissance. Taylor still dreams of the Jewish-White Alliance and so refuses to face the reality that Jewish globalists are the main enemy of the White Race. If David Duke tends to see Evil Jews everywhere, Taylor pretends like he sees them nowhere. He knows Jews got the brains, power, and influence, and so, it’d be the biggest coup for whites to bring over Jews to their side. But it’s not going to happen. If Bill Buckley, with a far more moderate agenda, failed to win over Jews, there isn’t any chance of Taylor doing so. Taylor will often attack blacks, Muslims, and various immigrant groups to signal to Jews that both whites and Jews suffer from Diversity, but Jews regard Diversity as a weapon against whites. And while some Jewish individuals may come over to the HBD side out of negative experiences with blacks or others, aka being mugged by reality, the fact is the great majority of Jews are affluent and don’t have to face problems of crime. As for cultural degeneracy that sickens conservatives and patriots, Jews love that stuff because they regard moral-cultural decline among goyim as weakening of their moral fiber. A people without solid moral foundation can easily be manipulated to worship false gods and lunacy as the new gods: BLM, Globo-Homo, the baby-talk mantras of ‘diversity, equity, inclusion’.

    John McWhorter is saner and more honest than most Negroes but, when push comes to shove, he is Negro First. He is critical of Negroes not out of hatred or contempt but out of love and brotherhood. He wants Negroes to come to their senses to achieve more and grow their power. He was something of a darling to establishment conservatives because he spoke of black dysfunction. Some even mistook him for a ‘fellow conservative’, but when Obama came along, he was onboard with the Hopium Train. Just like Jews such as Ben Shapiro will always go with Israel-Zion First, McWhorter and his ilk will always go with Blackness First.

    On the race and academic issue, McWhorter is part right. Blacks could be doing considerably better with proper attitude and more diligence. And there was more chance of this in the past when there was greater respect for authority in the black community. Blacks were anxious to put forth positive image to whites: “Credit to my race”. Black youths were more respectful of parents, elders, and preachers. All that is gone with rise of youth culture, hedonism, and black rage politics. And things got worse with Rap Music, which really created a black youth culture independent of the larger black community. Its effect was as toxic among blacks as punk was among British working class youth. While youth culture had a degrading effect on all communities, it would bound to affect blacks more due to more poverty, genetics, and relative strength vis-a-vis whites. Like the British working class with punk culture and white working class with heavy metal culture, more poverty-stricken blacks were more likely to become mired in pop cultural degradation(though, of late, globo-homo nuttery, BLM conceits, normalization of tattoos, hair-dyeing, & body piercing, and all-around Jewish BS have degraded the intellectual and cultural pedigree of white elites as well — we live in the age of fat green-haired librarians and museum curators with tattoos and piercings).
    But there are other factors as well. Evolution made blacks more impulsive, jivey, funky, and wild-like. So, increased youth freedom and nihilism meant blacks would act crazier than other groups. It was made worse by blacks being tougher than whites. If whites could at least kick black butt, blacks would have respected whitey as ‘badass’. But once blacks got to seeing whites as slow, flabby, pussy, and fa**ogty-ass, they sneered at all things ‘white’, like studying and being cooperative. Blacks came to see white guys as ‘white boys’, easy prey to black bullying and intimidation, and came to see white girls as their sexual prizes. Even as blacks increasingly intimidated, beat up, and humiliated whites, they grew even more contemptuous of whites because whites eagerly cucked to black badassery. The more blacks rapped about kicking white butt and taking white women, the more white guys groveled at the feet of blacks and more white girls put out. So, blacks got to see the black-white relationship as one of the badass black master and the punkass white wussy. Given this attitude, the current reality seems incredibly unjust to both blacks and whites. Blacks think, “If we be so badass and cool and if whites worship our muscle and dongs, why whitey have more than we do?” And whites think, “If blacks are so cool and badass and we white cucky-wucks go out of our way to roll out the red carpet for Noble Negroes and celebrate their deserved mastery over us maggoty pathetic white selves, how come we whites still have more stuff than blacks do? So unfair. It must be ‘systemic racism’ or ‘white fragility’ or whatever.” In the cucked white mind, George Floyd should be a billionaire or president, if not god hisself. Ridiculous as it all sounds, that’s how so many whites really feel and think after so many years of cuckery before rap culture, black-dominated sports, and Jewish-promoted idolatry. And so, it’s all pretty hopeless.

    One thing for sure, McWhorter doesn’t look blackity-black. He looks like a mulatto or the child of lighter-skinned blacks with considerable white DNA. This is significant in understanding black issues. When we speak of ‘blacks’, we need to ask which one or what kind? After all, the one-drop rule means that even someone who is 90% white and 10% black can count as black. Let’s say McWhorter’s DNA is 70% white. Then, McWhorter would be more or less correct in saying that blacks could close the gap(mostly at any rate) with whites. If all black kids had considerable white genes(like McWhorter and other elite lighter-skinned Negroes), the IQ and achievement gap between whites and blacks would likely close a great deal. So, McWhorter’s perspective could be overly personal. When he thinks ‘black’, he thinks more of someone like himself or Barack Obama(product of white mother and higher IQ Negro father) than the kind of jive-ass blacks who fill up most public schools like places like Baltimore or St. Louis. Not only does McWhorter have white genes but smart white genes. Many blacks have little white genes, and many mulattos have dumb white genes as their mothers tend to be ‘white trash’ whores. Granted, increasing numbers of mulattos are ending up with smart white genes as some of the biggest interracist types are found in elite white circles. White girls at Ivy Leagues routinely put out to Negroes(many from Africa), and white boy cucks celebrate this as ‘progress’.

  13. Corvinus: “People do accept the truth that the jury is still out regarding whether certain racial distinctions are nature or nurture. ”

    It’s possible to say “the jury is still out” on any scientific question. But American public policy is based on faith that it’s only nurture that accounts for racial differences in outcome. Even to suggest it might be otherwise is considered a great sin, a personal moral failing. This is mostly due to Christian influence on culture.

    • Thanks: anonymouseperson
    • Replies: @Goddard
    , @Neuday
  14. @Priss Factor

    Good points. If Taylor wants to see someone unable to face truth he should try looking in the mirror sometime. Perhaps his missionary parents were the type of Christian who read the heretical bible with the commentary by Cyrus Scofield, which likely would have never achieved its wide popularity were it not for Scofield’s (((good friends))) at the Lotus Club who paid Oxford University Press to publish the monstrosity.

    Such Christians pay little if any attention to the many warnings issued by Christ himself in the actual scripture about the (((Synagogue of Satan))), their endless wickedness and efforts to subvert and invert good and evil throughout the world. Like Scofield, Taylor ends up disarming whites spiritually from their deadliest enemies. McWorther and other blacks are merely golem for the (((Synagogue))) and ultimately Satan – who they worship and serve.

    • Agree: John Q Duped
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  15. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    You make a pretty good case, Dr. Morgan. However, one could bring up plenty of lefties with no purported religion, the “progressivism” actually being a religion itself, who delude themselves all day long.

    About this McWhorter’s article, since I was just having fun in my previous comment, I gotta give him credit for pretty much admitting that there are certain things he doesn’t WANT to believe. Of course, that means his conclusions are garbage and shouldn’t be listened to, i.e., there’s nothing wrong with the Murray book*.

    .

    * Besides his admonition to Whites that they should go tribal, as that would somehow be bad for … well, whom? I’m going by what I’ve read on VDare regarding Murray’s book. I have no reason to buy it, really. It’s not news to me.

  16. Some Guy says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    People had much less resistance to this back in the day when people were more Christian. The people most resistant to it don’t seem very religious.

  17. Some Guy says:
    @Exalted Cyclops

    There’s plenty of people who talk about Jews already, adding Jared Taylor to that bunch wouldn’t change anything. Having a diversity of approaches is probably good for maximum appeal and gradual red-pilling, from the Mcwhorters of the world to the Murrays to the Taylors and beyond.

    • Replies: @DanFromCT
    , @Fred Not Reed
  18. Some Guy: “People had much less resistance to this back in the day when people were more Christian. The people most resistant to it don’t seem very religious.”

    This sort of thing is in the culture. Two thousand years of Christian brainwashing has had such a profound effect that even many atheists in the West accept the Christian “brotherhood of man” nonsense. For the West, there is no other source of morality. Whites didn’t get their morality from Buddhism, Islam, Taoism, or Judaism, that’s for sure.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @aj54
  19. Achmed E. Newman: “You make a pretty good case, Dr. Morgan. However, one could bring up plenty of lefties with no purported religion, the “progressivism” actually being a religion itself, who delude themselves all day long.”

    I’ve made the point for years now that this “new” religion is only another, secular version of Christianity. As discussed in another article now on Unz, it looks like more and more people are coming to agree with me:

    https://www.unz.com/article/this-independence-day-historic-american-nation-facing-state-conquest-by-anti-america-and-the-minority-occupation-government/#comment-4757906

  20. Rosie says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    This sort of thing is in the culture. Two thousand years of Christian brainwashing has had such a profound effect that even many atheists in the West accept the Christian “brotherhood of man” nonsense. For the West, there is no other source of morality. Whites didn’t get their morality from Buddhism, Islam, Taoism, or Judaism, that’s for sure.

    If you don’t like this “brotherhood of man nonsense,” why don’t you go ahead and tell usmwhat you would replace it with. I assure you, none of those religions you mentioned are any different in that respect, except one. (((I’ll bet you know which one it is, too.)))

    Buddhism denies the existence and reality of even the individual soul, let alone groups. Islam is a universalist religion that seeks converts from all races. Taoism is very go-with-the-flow, almost literally,* so you’ll find no help there. Confucianism might be of some help to Whites, but that’s not a rival religion so much as an ethical system that is frankly compatible with Christianity anyway, except to the extent that it involves ancestor worship.

    People are not going back to ancestor worship or any form of my-god-can-beat-up-your-god tribal/civic cult, so you can just forget about that. It’s not on the menu. The question to work out is Joe, as Christians, we balance our duties to humanity, to our nations, to our families, and to ourselves. We already have to do this.

    *https://youtu.be/yUjPFCosmNA

  21. ltravail says:

    Obsessions with “diversity” are already corrupting science itself…This thought is surely meant to be a joke. Science became so badly corrupted by politics that it’s not even science anymore. Just think of all the professional “scientists” who go along with the climate change scam, when there are probably more scientists who reject it (at least privately) than have adopted it as religion. Or look at the shameful behavior of medical professionals spreading the plandemic lie and supporting the wholly unscientific govt lockdown policies behind it, including giving their “settled science” blessing for entire populations to be injected with an untested experimental substance. They happily deceive for no other reason than to have a job. In fact, deceitis their job! Diversity is the least of science’s problems right now.

    And white folks are lying to themselves if they think quotas or affirmative action type policies are sinful. As soon as their sons and daughters can’t get into Ivy League schools anymore because all the spaces are being taken by recent immigrant children from China and India, I doubt they’ll stand idly by – just as they did not back in the early 20th century when newly arriving Jewish kids were taking all the spots at Harvard. I’d be severely disappointed if they didn’t push back on that. Multi-racial/ethnic societies need, actually demand, a different kind of politics than homogeneous societies like Japan.

    If two college aspirants are both, say, within 2 standard deviations above the mean, even if one scores 12 nominal points higher on the aptitude tests (assuming a standard deviation equals 15 points), are they both not of roughly similar academic capability? Truth is, in the US you will find innumerable college-aged adults meeting this case in point. Should universities, then, always select the student who nominally scores 6, 7,8, 10 points above other kids within the same STDEV group? That would be insane! Thus, it behooves an institution to consider other qualities an aspirant brings through its doors – as universities have always done in the past…whether it be based on geography, an alumnus family association, economic background, etc…To parrot the title of Jared’s essay, why can’t people accept this truth? Because it sounds too…um…black? Ridiculous!

    • Disagree: Rich
    • Troll: Che Guava
  22. I wonder if anyone, Taylor or anyone else commenting on here, can tell me the exact percentage of racial purity of blacks, whites, Asians (yellow-skin), Native Americans/First Nations/MezoAmericans (so-called “redskins”) and Middle Easterners (browns)….are there ANY purely Caucasians? Are there any purely black Africans…are the San or Xhosa Bushmen even purely black? Are the Aussie Aboriginees pure race? Maoris and other Pacific Islanders? Eskimos/Inuits and the like in Greenland, Canada, Siberia, Laplanders, etc. In other words, is ANYONE of a pure race with no racial intermixing? Can anyone who has taken a DNA test show pure race?

    Example: a Kalahari Bushman takes a DNA test and find out he has an ancestor who is from an island in the Indian Ocean…who is likely of a brown race. Another one: a North Sentinelese has DNA of someone from India (if that is they’ll allow someone to the island to give the DNA test). Another one: a Eureopean has Mongolian DNA but is considered Caucasian, or a Jew who lived in Palestine before it became Israel (a true Israelite, so to speak) just so happens to have Khazar (Caucasian) DNA, that is, Ashkenazim DNA? And so on.

    So is it really true that whites or Asians have a higher IQ because they are strictly Caucasian or Asian? Or blacks have a lower IQ because they are strictly African?

    When someone can prove blacks are better athletes because they are strictly African and Africans are better athletes than Caucasians or Asians, let me know.

    Memo to Jared Taylor: the only race that matters is the HUMAN RACE!
    https://somethinghappeninghere.wordpress.com/2021/04/18/memo-to-all-activists-based-on-race-only-one-race-matters-the-human-race/

    • Troll: R.G. Camara
  23. If the facts are as Dr. Murray says, meritocracy would mean that “we need to accept an America in which black people are rarely encountered in jobs requiring serious smarts.” He adds: “I would have to work very hard to come up with a way of accepting that world.”

    McWhorter should be commended for his self-awareness and his honesty. As I keep saying, no self-respecting black man can accept that his race is naturally inferior. What kind of cringing cuck could?

    Many people would say of Prof. McWhorter: “Of course he can’t accept the truth. He’s black.” I don’t like that argument.

    Taylor should be commended for his self-awareness and his honesty: at least he admits that he can’t refute the argument, but merely pouts at it. “People can’t face the truth”, indeed.

    • Replies: @tito
  24. northeast says:

    McWhorter knows the truth about black IQ and violence. It would just be bad business for him to confirm it. So he plays it off as some “gray area”.

    • Agree: TKK
  25. deliberately blind

    Ha! Like JT, the huwhite cuttlefish who’s the equivalent of a mechanic who’ll never say exactly what’s wrong with your car. But he won’t stop there. No, everyone at JT Mech Inc. is also prohibited from naming the problem with your car, and they’ll censor any customer who names the problem.

    Ridiculous fraudster, and nobody worth a damn doesn’t know it.

    Just stop talking, fraud. You’re close to the grave, and still can’t name it? Get lost. Go on to your reward, embarrassment.

  26. When excellence is expected, without excuse, the color of the individual is irrelevant. It doesn’t get any simpler than that.

    • Agree: HbutnotG
    • Replies: @Che Guava
  27. The IQ test score has perhaps outlived its usefulness. Standardized tests have paid for themselves many times over as a time and money and labor savings device for institutions like school systems with a bunch of people they want to manage efficiently. Before the tests were written did anybody miss them? People found their level over their lifetime without these steps which saved time and money and labor for the managers.

    At this point fighting the conflicts they generate is perhaps way more trouble than they are worth. Some people are smarter than others. So what? There’s a race correlation on IQ test scores. Again, so what? Does anybody need an IQ test score for anything? I really doubt it.

    Does Murray have an answer for these questions?

  28. Literally Sheeeeeeeeeiiiiiiit.


    • LOL: Non PC Infidel, TKK
  29. Rosie: “If you don’t like this “brotherhood of man nonsense,” why don’t you go ahead and tell usmwhat you would replace it with.”

    What makes you think it’s up to me to “replace” Christianity? And, even if such a disease could be gotten rid of, what makes you think it would need replacing? Would you that insist a surgeon who wants to remove your cancer only do so if he’s got something to replace it with?? LOL.

    Rosie: “The question to work out is Joe, as Christians, we balance our duties to humanity, to our nations, to our families, and to ourselves. We already have to do this. ”

    LOL again. No idea how Joe figures into this, but Darwin is correct, not Jesus. Don’t love your enemy, destroy him. The various races are in competition with each other. Life itself is a war of all against all. Nobody has any duty to “humanity”, and any alliances with others in life’s struggles are conditional and usually temporary. That’s just the way it is.

    • Agree: commandor
    • Disagree: Gapeseed
  30. Alfa158 says:
    @Corvinus

    Race is a genetic classification, therefore a racial distinction is, by the definition of race, nature. You can’t nurture a racial distinction. There is no such jury still out.

    • Agree: Montefrío, Realist
  31. Biff says:
    @Robert Dolan

    He can’t accept the reality of IQ because he’s black…..and it would mean that he’d have to see himself and his own family members as inferior.

    What’s his problem? As a white I accept the fact that Japanese are smarter on average, and my own family members as inferior(esp. my dopey sister).

    • LOL: TKK
    • Replies: @Realist
  32. “Competence” is a canard. Most jobs can be done by a monkey.

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Pheasant
    , @MarkinLA
  33. JimDandy says:

    I’m white. I’m pretty sure Asian-Americans–on average–have a higher I.Q. than white Americans. Wow, that was really, really easy for me to write. Doesn’t bother me at all. Not that I’m bragging about that. It would be pretty insanely egomaniacal to get all butthurt over facts, wouldn’t it? What kind of person would get outraged over facts? There must be something seriously wrong with people like that.

    • Agree: MarkU, acementhead
  34. termite says:

    The differences between how races think are interesting, though I have no qualifications to elucidate or analyse the subject. Only by observations and giving this uninformed opinion. Below is a cursory read about black African civilisation from Wikipedia.
    1. It is strange that black Africans have thriving civilisations from ancient Egyptian times to recent colonial period if their IQ are so inferior as compared to the white race.
    2. Black African civilisations rose and fell as others around the world.
    3. There was not an Industrial Revolution in Africa, and no chance of that to happen, as the west started their imperial colonial conquests.
    4. The civilisations were destroyed and black history was hidden, as happened in other colonies.
    That’s history. We cannot say the IQ of blacks were inferior to whites pre colonial, due to no data. But blacks having civilisations is interesting, especially the Punt civilisation, during the same time as the Egyptian civilisation.

    Forward to the period before the present, we have a period of rape and pillage from the white race, and dumbing down of indigenous peoples. (See Canada, for a stark example as one of many).
    At this same period, some blacks were sent to the US as slaves. What exactly happened that made the blacks drop their IQ? Nothing to do with whites, right? It just magically happened. Must be the Atlantic Ocean. IQ sapping. Not due to any fault of the whites. The blacks just went from civilised to stupid. This is one theory, the “Magic” theory.

    Another theory, could be the Dumbing Down theory, which is more feasible. What do the whites want from slaves? Pick cotton, don’t get uppity. Smart enough to pick cotton, too dumb to escape. The perfect slave, and now, whites wonder why blacks have low IQ, when the IQ were beaten out of them?
    IQ is inherited seems to be a theory. Of course. It is inherited culturally, not so much genetically. It is in the the way of thinking, not in just thinking. It is in the rational and logic, against instinctual thinking. The blacks have been so indoctrinated towards instinctual thinking because of the need to survive, that the whites expect the blacks to switch to logical and rational thinking like “Magic” again. Give me a break.

    I am not black or white. I am ethnically brown but could be yellow or white. Depends on what I want. Race doesn’t bother me in the least.

  35. Let’s face it – the facts about black IQ, violent behavior, and genetics are grim news.
    It’s bad news for whites. It means that 14% of the US population will always be a plague on us. And blacks will always resent us no matter what we do. Eliminating blacks from our midst through some sort of genocide is a very distasteful idea to civilized people, and it’s hard to see a way out that doesn’t involve eliminating blacks in one way or another.
    It’s bad news for blacks. Even smart and well-behaved blacks have to expect the bad black gene pool to ruin their offspring. It’s a curse from nature herself, a curse from God on high. “Born to fail” is an unbearable idea to have to live with.
    Who can blame people for ignoring the facts and living on hope? If you were the ugliest woman alive would you admit that to yourself? Or would you put on makeup and try to look pretty?

    • Agree: Pheasant, bronek
  36. @Priss Factor

    Give credit where credit is due. Both Taylor and Duke are giants.

    Taylor and Duke have given their lives to the cause, have suffered many years of social ostracism and vicious hatred from the Jleft. I imagine their family members have suffered as well.

    Duke sees the damage of jewish influence everywhere he looks, and he provides the facts to support his assertions. It’s not like he’s just making stuff up.

    Taylor provides a different subset of facts and information regarding black crime and the detrimental effects of diversity….he has surely redpilled thousands of people.

    Going public as a white advocate is a big deal and the men who’ve given their lives to our cause should be given a certain level of respect.

  37. Ragno says:
    @Tom F.

    I had a difficult conversation with a family member this holiday weekend, one that began with them bemoaning the ‘lack of diversity’ (meaning Blacks, because there are plenty of East Asians, Middle Easterns, and South Asians) in the neighborhood.

    Dollars to doughnuts that family member is a sibling or in-law through marriage, but in any event a family member of a similar age, and more a peer as opposed to a parent or uncle/aunt/older cousin. Older folks whose “lived experience” is of a different, saner America (albeit one on the same doomed trajectory as our own….. just with plenty of time remaining on the clock, relative to us) are not in the habit of counting heads and fretting over the lack of woolly ones. They’re likelier to be grateful for the relative perks of civilization they still enjoy, like one lock on the door as opposed to six plus a deadbolt.

    Of course, there’s “lived experience” and there’s “lived experience”; the kind older white folks are familiar with is not, alas, the type of lived experience that academics, politicians and media parasites can use to climb the career ladder with. (Be careful, however, as it is precisely the type that publicly demonizing and rendering into chum for marginalized sharks can win them applause and thumbs-up emojis from the other scuttlefish.)

  38. Clyde says:

    Blacks live on myth and emotions so can never admit (nothing) about IQ. While I and many other whites can admit the truth about NE Asian IQs, this is comfortable enough for me. Indian IQ? Truth is it is not there as is NE Asian IQ. Dot Indians are not so smart. What with 1.5 billion population, we only get to see the elite IQs that immigrate here. That excel in spelling bees. Prolly the Brahmin types that get here are the smartest and palest. But we unfortunately got lots of conniving mid IQ Patels, a Hindu caste. They are the ones who bought up motels and hotels across America. Started with rural motels. Moved on up to hotels. Their FOB cousins that get here buy motels. Their motto is, only Americans and idiots pay taxes. They lown cash businesses.

    The pathetic matter about NE Asian IQs is that Mainland China is the ultimate drone-robot society. They will love and accept Xi’s social credit scoring. Japan and Korea are more individualistic but are not reproducing. How come all those male K-Pop stars look so feminine? What is in the water there? Not to say that many of the young here (USA) are not sexually confused.

  39. Like it or not, Prof. McWhorter is braver than almost every white academic. He read Facing Reality and didn’t just call it trash. He admitted he can’t disprove the data and that his “hopes” about black IQ “aren’t science.” That is a lot further than most whites would go.

    That is because any White academic that doesn’t condemn it would be deemed a RASSIST and such a label would follow their career.

    McWhorter can only play this game because he is part Black. He can give a mixed review and flaunt himself as outside of academic conformity.

    Even rebellious White professors are smart enough to know that nothing can gained by even acknowledging the book. They know the establishment lies and chooses what the student reads. Charles Murray can write a dozen books and it won’t matter. The colleges will still teach from Gould and Boas because that is what they want to be true.

    This problem is not going to be solved through books and graphs. The establishment is well aware that they are lying and that includes McWhorter. He is just skating the line for his own amusement.

    • Agree: Sin City Milla, bronek
  40. @Rosie

    If you don’t like this “brotherhood of man nonsense,” why don’t you go ahead and tell usmwhat you would replace it with. I assure you, none of those religions you mentioned are any different in that respect, except one. (((I’ll bet you know which one it is, too.)))

    He doesn’t have a replacement for Christianity and he has acknowledged this.

    Reminds me of environmentalists that demand we get rid of oil and then provide a list of reasons as to why it is bad. As if none of us are aware of its flaws and this was the first time we were introduced to any criticism.

    We ask them what exactly we can replace it with that would be cost effective and their response is to list the reasons why oil is bad. Genius stuff.

    They don’t seem to grasp that an existing solution can be flawed but demanding a replacement is quite easy when you don’t have one.

    People are not going back to ancestor worship or any form of my-god-can-beat-up-your-god tribal/civic cult, so you can just forget about that. It’s not on the menu.

    They aren’t switching from Christianity to pagan forest gods and the data is clear that ex-Christians go left. Atheists are more liberal than any non-White group. Trying to convert Christians to secularism in an effort to fight the left is completely irrational. Marxists constantly attack Christianity (but not Islam) but this is a rational strategy on their part.

    • Agree: joef
    • Replies: @joef
  41. @Priss Factor

    John McWhorter is saner and more honest than most Negroes but, when push comes to shove, he is Negro First.

    Why wouldn’t he be? This really doesn’t bother me. I don’t expect Blacks to be anything but Black first.

    I have a problem with my own racial group lying to me about race and hoping I just shut my mouth after catching them in their lies. To this day I have not had a single Black person tell me that all races are the same.

    On the race and academic issue, McWhorter is part right. Blacks could be doing considerably better with proper attitude and more diligence.

    He is part right but knows full well that there can’t be equal outcomes without widespread miscegenation.

    So what he really wants is better culture for Blacks and guilt/trash culture for Whites.

    That is what liberals at the top want. To create equality they want to push up one side and push the other down. Because racial genetics are real (they know this) they can only use the levers of culture until miscegenation evens things out.

    McWhorter is aware that celebrating thugs ‘n bitches is not helping Black America and in fact holding them back by celebrating the worst elements. But he doesn’t want a more conservative culture for everyone because that would help Whites.

    He and many leftists are in the same pickle. They want to move Blacks away from thug culture but without helping anyone else. They don’t want any change in the culture that might help Whites and especially White boys.

    They are also afraid that the secret will get out and Whites will start acting as a cohesive racial group. But why wouldn’t they? If the left admits that they have been lying about race then why wouldn’t Whites act in their collective interest? Because that wouldn’t be fair? To whom? Egalitarians that were deceiving Whites in the first place? This is actually what will eventually happen. The left will admit they were lying the entire time but will ask Whites to go along with it all for global equality. Of course the left is banking that they will have a non-White majority by then and won’t have to worry about a resurgence.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  42. I started ignoring McWhorter when he in all seriousness called Trump stupid and that he had just lucked into the presidency, and at the same time started cheer leading evil Michelle Wolf, a comedian who had made a big part of her act cheering with joy at how “powerful” murdering her child in abortion made her. He thus revealed himself to be an idiot and evil, practically all at once.

    He’s tepid on race, so many neocons and still-programmed folks cling to him as a lifeboat in a sea of hate-whitey black sharks. It’s pathetic, really, how much the civ nats won’t give up on this failed, anti-racist ideology.

    McWhorter is a just a Fox News-friendly black, which means he’s just as much a Deep State hack as any race-bating, race-denialist on MSNBC/CNN.

    • Agree: 3g4me
  43. Hydra says:

    As ever, that problem can be solved two ways: by instituting policies to raise black peoples IQ, or by lowering white peoples IQ.
    We have chosen to do the latter very successfully, so I wouldn’t worry too much, if I were him.

  44. Dumbo says:

    That guy seems to have a lot of White genes. He might not even be considered Black in a place like Brazil, but a general “pardo” (brown).

    Priss is right, Taylor also is not “facing the truth”.

    Perhaps the only solution will be for Chinese scientists to alter Black genes via CRISPR to make them more docile and smarter. Also more interested in paternity and less in sex with white females.

    Or if not just wait a million years when we all will have evolved into Higher Consciousness Beings and colour of the skin and IQ differences will no longer be an issue.

    Or make the Black Hebrew Israelite view the standard, just declare that all Blacks are really Jews, and ship them all to Israel. Problem solved.

    • Replies: @Realist
  45. mkr says:

    Even if there are IQ differences across races even when controlling for culture, upbringing, and environment, surely culture, upbringing, and environment play a greater role in generalized black underperformance in societal statistics and their high crime rate.

    IQ doesn’t make someone superior; stupid is as stupid does: think of all the “smart people” that are injecting themselves with mRNA vaccines that literally changes your bodies DNA to produce spike proteins so that your own body can then produce antibodies to fight against the spike protein that your own body just created; probably your average low IQ person knows that that is an extremely stupid thing to do and they won’t do it. It’s uncouth to imagine that as a white person that you are somehow superior to all black people in some way or that you have a higher IQ than all black people, it’s just not true. Millions of black Americans do not underperform in society and are not criminals. You can take a high IQ doctor and pluck them from the city and drop them in the wilderness and they’ll be dead in a week because they don’t know how to survive in nature, but some low IQ survivalist absolutely will thrive in such an environment. Everyone’s a specialist in life, even people with low IQs. I’ve had computer science professors that can’t even hook up an external monitor to their laptop yet my ten year old nephew can with ease.

    What other race in America has a mainstreamed crime culture besides black people? Crime culture, from less to more: Asians, whites, latinos, blacks, well what do you know, leaving the races in place but changing the graph from less to more to more to less it matches the IQ differences, but is IQ the cause of criminality or is it cultural, and even artificially pushed and propagandized so-called culture? Where’s the low performance in societal statistics and high crime rate amongst Nigerian Americans or even amongst Nation of Islam members? What make these people perform? You don’t have to be a genius to get a high school diploma, a college degree, a job, take care of your health, and to not be a criminal, those are the societal statistics we’re talking about. Like language, intelligence is something that is taught to someone by another person, it’s not biologically inherent.

    Generalizing about race and making judgments upon the individual based upon that generalization is false judgment, the opioid of lazy collectivists, of sycophants and narcissists. of the constant campaigner, the attention seeker, the one who seeks approval of others and is always aware about how they appear to others, but not the problem solver who properly analyzes reality and is not an actor seeking to please others, who gets things done, and moves on to the next task in life, properly analyzing what’s right before their own two eyes, the human being.

    Think of all the “smart” people who are pushing the “white privilege” libel as if they are helping black people. It literally teaches black people that they are inferior in their ability to perform well amongst other races in a multi-racial society where equal rights is the law; the collectivists generalize about “all” black people while proclaiming their cults ideology when they should know full well that not all black people underperform in society and that most black people are not criminals. It teaches blacks that they need racial preferences just to keep up with the other races. It teaches them that they are victims, imagine having to be “taught” that you are a victim, so much so that they will even say that a black criminal is a victim and that a white victim is the oppressor, what is more pathetic than that: actual victims do not need to be taught that they’re a victim. It teaches black people that white people are their overlords and are even responsible for the black person’s deeds in life, firmly affixing white people as superior and black people as inferior, and the “smart” people celebrate their “anti-racism” and “equity”, and the bulk do it for approval of the other cult members. And then they want reparations for having never been a slave to be paid for by people who have never owned slaves and whose ancestors fought to end slavery. Have they even thought for a moment what “reparations” would do to people’s respect for black Americans having earned whatever wealth that they have in life; I’d take my dignity and self-respect over a paycheck all day. You have to be insane to buy that drivel, and there are plenty of insane people with high IQs who are pushing it. Having a high IQ is not what it’s cracked up to be, but culture means everything.

    • LOL: Realist
  46. @omegabooks

    Well said omega-now prepare for the racialist loonies to attack you for your common sense and basic HUMAN decency. We’ll all have to work together when the ‘aliens’ attack.

    • Agree: Mustapha Mond
  47. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    McWhorter is one of the smartest black public intellectuals, and he also has the courage to write about “race”.
    I like him. I’ve read most of his “race” books and they are pretty good.
    But he overrates IQ, just like Jared Taylor likely does.
    Kanye West is a (far) smarter than average black dude, and he has much more of a positive influence on my life than McWhorter (and I genuinely LIKE McWhorter).
    IQ does NOT correlate in any meaningful way with moral worth…. (and anyone who argues otherwise is a moron who misses the bigger picture… greater IQ enables greater evil even if it also lets the astute avoid lesser evils).
    But it also fails to correlate in any deep way with creative genius… yes it is ceteris paribus better to have a higher IQ than not…. but many with high IQ’s waste their time winning stupid prizes.
    Is it better to run the 100 m dash faster? YES.
    Is it better to deadlift greater weight? YES.
    Is it better to score higher on IQ tests? YES.
    But far, far better than any of these in isolation is to identify your talents and put them all to work in pursuing your individual life.

    • Thanks: Polemos
  48. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Excellent comment, Dr RM.
    There is an equivalence between the Christian mind set & the PC mind set. Both persecute not only the “sin”, but the thought of the sin.
    CRT, with its systemic (indeed a priori) white racism is parallel to the Christian’s “original sin”.
    You know you are dealing with the ethically insane, with the zealot when action & thought are given a similar “sin” status.
    “Our climate of racial-moral zealotry doesn’t just punish people who say the wrong thing; it makes them incapable of even thinking the wrong thing.”
    Isn’t the use of the word “zealotry” here so apposite, so pregnant with meaning?

  49. @Rosie

    “If you don’t like this “brotherhood of man nonsense,” why don’t you go ahead and tell usmwhat you would replace it with.”
    Why?
    Why should it’s rejection require replacement, per se ?
    Why indeed should you limit those replacements to “religions”?
    There are numerous ethical beliefs that deal with the relationship between humans without the dangerous step of importing the supernatural.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  50. “If the facts are as Dr. Murray says, meritocracy would mean that “we need to accept an America in which black people are rarely encountered in jobs requiring serious smarts.” He adds: “I would have to work very hard to come up with a way of accepting that world.”

    Pretty much the crux of the whole problem,isn’t it? Something is too much work for a black dude,he doesn’t want to work very hard,so he just doesn’t do it. We don’t need to have a debate about it,quod est fucking demonstrandum.

  51. Anon[289] • Disclaimer says:

    It might be illuminating to examine the Black society and entreprenuership say in the period 1920 to 1965 before the Great Society programs destroyed Black middle class values. I recall that while per capita income among Blacks in , say 1955, was significantly lower than among white christians – employment was higher, families were more stable, unwed mothers among blacks was lower than among White Christians, and I believe Blacks owned more small businesses.

    • Agree: Polemos
    • Replies: @3g4me
    , @Dave Bowman
  52. TKK says:
    @jsinton

    Some of the smartest people I have known happen to have been black

    Some of the most incapable people I have met were Chinese or Japanese.

    Bullshit.

    • Agree: northeast, acementhead
    • Replies: @bomag
  53. @Robert Dolan

    He can’t accept the reality of IQ because he’s black…..and it would mean that he’d have to see himself and his own family members as inferior.

    It wouldn’t mean that he would have to see himself or his family as inferior at all. Since you don’t understand something as basic as averages, it seems that McWhorter is intellectually far superior to you.

    • Replies: @bomag
  54. DrWatson says:
    @Corvinus

    The jury is still out? How much more time does the jury need to decide? Another 200 years?

  55. gotmituns says:

    Words don’t matter anymore as far as blacks go. The only thing that matters is that White men and women become excellent riflemen – one round, one hit.

  56. AceDeuce says:
    @SafeNow

    Blacks are actually superior in non-IQ-test aspects of intelligence.

    Uhhhh, I doubt that. Can you give specifics?

    • LOL: 3g4me
    • Replies: @SafeNow
  57. Rich says:
    @Priss Factor

    I’m not sure where blacks were kicking White ass, except in neighborhoods where blacks had a huge numbers advantage. When they came into my neighborhood in Queens, NY they took a beating and ran for their lives. We avoided each other and kept a tenuous peace in public places, but the Whites I grew up with, weren’t slow or flabby and none of us groveled to anyone. Where the hell did you grow up?

    • Replies: @Marylou
  58. In the UK, Black Africans do better than White British in educational achievement. Caribbeans do much worse than both. Indians and Pakistanis are on opposite ends of the spectrum, despite being similar racially. For me, this means there’s more to it than race.

    https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/education-skills-and-training/11-to-16-years-old/a-to-c-in-english-and-maths-gcse-attainment-for-children-aged-14-to-16-key-stage-4/latest

    • Replies: @anonlb
    , @Donald A Thomson
  59. profnasty says:

    It’s not only about putting a peg in a hole, and 3 R’s.
    Different kinds of intelligence:
    Physical strength
    Confidence
    Dexterity
    Social skills
    Nurturing skills
    Empathy
    Courage.
    Mental gymnastics is only part of the picture.
    Everyone has a talent or two.

  60. “Prof. McWhorter has no idea where the madness comes from.”

    Of course he knows but won’t admit it. But neither will JT admit that Jews have been the architects of the “madness”. His ability to avoid the elephant in the room is every bit as strong as McWhorter’s.

    • Agree: lavoisier
  61. @Priss Factor

    Excellent post but I’d take issue with one thing: I don’t believe that blacks are inherently tougher than Whites. Back in the day they were actually afraid of physical confrontation with Whites unless they had superior numbers. The problem today is that White men have been deliberately emasculated through guilt and concede the physical ground to blacks without a fight.

    • Agree: TKK, 3g4me
    • Replies: @joef
  62. Dumbo says:
    @Morton's toes

    Does anybody need an IQ test score for anything?

    Yes, it’s kind of silly in a way. If you remove IQ tests, does it mean that you’ll have more black rocket engineers? No, it just means that they’ll be stopped by other roadblocks. Or they’ll just do what they really want to do, which is to be aspiring rappers.

    Smart people will do smart things, stupid people will do stupid things (sometimes smart people will do stupid things, too, but that’s a different problem).

    The whole discussion of “racial differences in IQ” is a way to quantify differences that everyone knows about – only that Blacks and the Progs say the fault is of “Institutional Racism” (i.e. Whites) as a way to cope with their own dumbness.

    But if it is any consolation, plenty of White people are dumb too.

    We lived for hundreds of years without either the concept of “IQ” or of “institutional racism”, and everybody knew that some people were smart, and some were dumb.

    • Replies: @anonlb
    , @MarkinLA
  63. bomag says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Well, yeah; but it reflects that a chunk of McWhorter’s ego is tied up in group identity.

  64. BuelahMan says:
    @Johnny Hooker

    I’m thinking that jews should pay to have them all reside in Israel.

    • Replies: @Lancelot_Link
  65. bomag says:
    @Some Guy

    This.

    And other religions are/were even more strict about the belief code. Islam, anyone, for restricting thought? I don’t recall Paganism being too open minded.

    • Replies: @Lancelot_Link
  66. bomag says:
    @Corvinus

    More of your ongoing abuse of the continuum fallacy.

  67. Why didn’t you get into medical school? If you did, why didn’t you get into neurosurgery? Why not Harvard law school? Any law school? Electrical engineering? Then chemical? Well, not even Mechanical??? Now look in the mirror and say “i didn’t get accepted because I’m stupid!” Of course you don’t, you protect your ego. We all do. You make excuses, etc etc. That’s how blacks feel as a race. It’s an understandable reaction, simply human nature. Now what if someone was saying all the same about a close family member. Same reaction.

  68. MLK says:

    Still, [McWhorter] prefers to think blacks are just as smart, but have a “subtle cultural resistance to demonstrating it.”

    Maybe this cracks the nut on FBI/DOJ and so-called Intelligence Community malefactions — the whole lot of them developed a “subtle cultural resistance to demonstrating” an adherence to the Constitution.

    To his credit, he adds: “I openly admit, though, that this is also the way I hope it is, and that’s not science.” His hopes are no defense against Prof. Murray’s data.

    There’s worse: “[I]t’s reasonable to ask of Murray: Why are you airing this information?” This is an odd question from someone who “airs” widely ignored information on crime rates and police killings. The subject of race and IQDr. Murray might just want to correct a widespread error. just bothers him. I suppose it’s impossible to expect even an associate professor at Columbia to understand that Dr. Murray might just want to correct a widespread error.

    You shouldn’t begrudge McWhorter a bit of circle squaring. Especially since his question is indeed reasonable because IQ and crime statistics by race shouldn’t be conflated, at least if you believe in the efficacy of IQ.

    The better analogue is IQ and criminal records by ancestry, not race.

    The more we’re able to associate information with particular DNA, whether IQ or a propensity for crime, the more essential it is to ask why it is being “air[ed],” collected, and deployed.

    . . . Dr. Murray might just want to correct a widespread error.

    At best, you’re damning Murray with faint praise with this flippant answer. After all, there is always hope contained in every Bell Curve.

  69. Goddard says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    This is mostly due to Christian influence on culture.

    Christian universalism was a powerful force when whites were spreading their culture and genes all over the world. Universalism is potentially fatal to the white race in a world in which a Rising Tide of Color threatens to engulf us.

    • Agree: awry
    • Replies: @Katrinka
  70. Z-man says:

    I was gonna add that ‘I bet this guy (McWhorter) is married to a white woman’ but then I googled him and no pictures with women and then I noticed that ‘gay look’ about him (grin) in those images, therefore, if my hunch is right, it’s a win win for us and understandable that this guy can’t face the truth.

    • Replies: @3g4me
  71. @BuelahMan

    Sir,

    So you mean to say the negro belongs in in the Negev? 😉

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  72. Anon[132] • Disclaimer says:

    Professor A says this, Professor B disagrees, Blogger C has something else to say, and all around the subject of IQ, race, blackness and so forth. At the end of it all, the reader is left dazed by the contradictions. Its the carnival come to town where we ride on every machine and leave with a spinning brain.

    I get the feeling sometimes that blacks who speak sensibly about the behaviour and mentality of blacks are really climbing onto the train of black discontent occupied by every other race. In reality they are honing in on a potential money maker all the while secretly sharing the same ape mental processes of their kind.

    Think BLM, who ripped off their own and then moved into white cribs. This new phenomenon of mouthy blacks, I get the impression, have a slightly different approach to the grift ie rip off the people looking for a black man to criticize blacks (something whites dare not do), make a bundle and chill in a white hood anyway. Behind all these trends there always seems to be a shaft.

    Forget all this IQ stuff. To simplify all this I will tell you how I know when some races are smart:
    -Chinese : They flee China to live among the white man. Some that is ! The majority are ignorant.
    -EAst Indians: They flee India to live among the white man. Some that is ! The Majority are ignorant.
    -Japanese: They keep niggers and other troublesome races out of Japan
    -Jews they keep all non-Jews, browns, blacks OUT of Israel. Infractions ? Deportation, Jail, Shot !

    We should not consider blacks as anything other than monkeys. One can say they are smart in that they remain in the US for all the perks rather than returning to Africa. In the West people listen to their bullshit, in Africa none of their Bantu brothers would give a damn about their constant gripes. In fact though, this is like saying a chimpanzee is clever because he hangs in an area of forest where there is abundant food or he hangs around an area where the residents put out scraps. This cannot be interpreted as intelligence but rather a monkey instinct to get something for nothing.

    Now we come to whites. These people are sublimely clever. The entire world as we know it today is the result of their intelligence and ingenuity. The Chinks send their messages by fortune cookie, whites using satellite communication. East Indians still bathe in the shit polluted Ganges, whites use showers, baths and toilets. Japs ? Nagasaki and Hiroshima ! Need I say more. Jews ? Without white money, equipment and expertise they would all be worshipping Allah. Blacks ? Shit, I dont got all year !

    Whites though are also sublimely stupid. They believe that the fruits of their labour and the sweat of their brow should be shared with all races ! That is why they are dumb. Other races look at this kindness as a weakness, take all they can, give little in return and fuck the hand that feeds them.

    IQ is more a measure of regurgitation. Whites have that ! Whites used to be street smart. That is a different thing. They need to reacquire that skill. Until the time comes when we deport all those who do not contribute to OUR SELFISH desires and goals, to what WE want, we cannot join the roster of the intelligent ! And I might add, a lack of street smarts, a lack of intelligence, a lack of common sense leads to self destruction. When you empty your pantry in a mistaken desire to look after others in want you may well end up hungry yourself. Whites need to wake up !

  73. @bomag

    Religion tends not to be too open minded. What would you expect from many generations of indoctrination into fantasy? It’s part and parcel to a worldview.

    • Replies: @gotmituns
  74. joef says:

    More racial excuse making that frustrates those who can see the trend line, and is accepted by progressive libtards who prefer to ignore reality.
    I generally accept Murray’s argument, however not to the point that it removes responsibility from what afros in this nation willfully choose to do.
    And their choice is to be hostile to the culture at large, which is the same culture that provides them sustenance. And without what we provide, afros would simply perish from general lack of self-sufficiency.

    Afros choose this hostility, and the choice of nonblacks is how to react to it:
    by libtard pandering & appeasement, or by recognizing what is happening and where all this is eventually going.
    Afros are the primary aggressors, and the libtards are the enablers of this aggression. Thus both are the self initiated enemies of us all (which includes Black conservatives who don’t want a race war). The only solution progressives offer for these intolerable conditions is “shut up & take it”. However that is not going to produce any type of lasting peace, conflict will eventually rule the day, especially when economic crisis’s sets in with scarcity.

    Other points in the article:
    First, people who typically get shot by the police are usually violent offenders (white or black). Very rarely does someone completely innocent get shot by the police (they usually committed a predatory act upon some other innocent person).
    I know the anarcho libertarians are completely perplexed by this fact, them being just a different version of libtard (who usually are a suburbanite who grew up in a bubble world, or some some asocial narcissist); but to us who were raised in nonblack working class city neighborhoods, this fact is self evident.

    Two, those who want to curtail police deadly force, or even possession of guns, are too moronic to realize if they don’t let the police defend their own lives with force, they are certainly not going to allow the private citizen to do it then. We will all become Zimmermans and Bernie Goetz.
    The use of deadly force should be examined by a case by case basis, not generalized prohibitions that libtards love to use as public policy (that because libtards live in their own self created bubble world).
    The RIGHT to PROTECT YOUR LIFE FROM UNPROVOKED CRIMINAL VIOLENCE SHOULD BE ABSOLUTE.

    Three, we must be careful of saying Blacks use violence because of low IQ, because that’s what liberals use to say back in the 60s 70s 80s so as to remove any culpability from the acts of Black violent offenders. I know plenty of low IQ Whites & Hispanics who are not violent. Afro american violence is cultural, and completely willful, performed knowingly (sometimes recklessly) and with intent.

    Four, affirmative action pushes incompetence forward in critical jobs such as medicine & engineering. And when their incompetence pushes collective mass failure in reality, we then push the Hollywood narrative of the magical negro nonsense (such as hidden figures book/movie ) to hide the incompetence. Additionally we change education standards and teach 2+2=5, so Black wrong answers become acceptable. There is no way that the broad promotion of this incompetency cannot be detrimental to a productive society.

    If we firmly imposed standards upon afros, many would comply, but we don’t! Thus we allow this cultural rot to continue. And like any rot (or cancer) eventually we get to the point of no return. And we are very near the terminal phase already, where we will emulate the third world conditions of ubiquitous economic scarcity & armed conflict. Pray that I am wrong, but the trend lines indicate otherwise.

    • Replies: @bronek
  75. Trinity says:

    Why People Can’t Face The Truth. From Mr. Taylor. Now that there is rich.

  76. rec1man says:
    @Rosie

    I offer the Hindu caste system for consideration

    We know, not all men are equal in IQ etc

    We dont encourage miscegenation

    • Replies: @Rosie
  77. gotmituns says:
    @Lancelot_Link

    Religion tends not to be too open minded. What would you expect from many generations of indoctrination into fantasy? It’s part and parcel to a worldview.
    —————————————————————————————————
    I wouldn’t use the word “fantasy.” Myth is more like the fact. But we humans need our myths. As this society disintegrates, new myths mill have to replace the old myths for people to survive.

  78. @Corvinus

    Science has established that racial distinctions are a product of nature *and* nurture. The amount that’s attributable to nature is not known exactly, but most estimates are around 50%.

    Believing otherwise is denying reality.

  79. @Morton's toes

    Without IQ tests, there’d be no explanation for differential achievement by racial groups. This means that the campaign against racism would grow even bigger.

  80. “That is a lot further than most whites would go.”

    Indeed! Take you for an example. The article never once mentioned the biggest elephant in the room: Jewish role in reforming of America, which pernicious to both black and white populace in different ways. It denies scores of qualified Whites of their rightful place in the society that was built by their forefathers and it encourages blacks to accept less than mediocrity vis a vis their own performance. It doesn’t do any good to discuss the two groups without a critical view of the ringmaster.

  81. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    No idea how Joe figures into this, but Darwin is correct, not Jesus. Don’t love your enemy, destroy him. The various races are in competition with each other. Life itself is a war of all against all.

    This isn’t how people act.

    You have decided what “life” is, without reference to how people actually live it. That is hilarious.

  82. @jsinton

    Some of the smartest people I have known happen to have been black. Some of the most incapable people I have met were Chinese or Japanese. So there is plenty of room for debate here.

    Hollywood is looking for script writers like you, with limited life experience.

    • LOL: acementhead
  83. bomag says:
    @TKK

    Could well be true, but belies no understanding of mean, median, mode, and distribution.

    • Agree: MEH 0910
  84. SafeNow says:
    @AceDeuce

    I wrote “often heard.”

  85. @termite

    Your comments make sense. Thanks

  86. DanFromCT says:
    @Some Guy

    There’s plenty of people who talk about Jews already, adding Jared Taylor to that bunch wouldn’t change anything.

    Are you suggesting those brave enough to make a case naming the Jews are engaging in just so much “talk”? Given your concession, however, would you say that Mr Taylor is guilty of suggestio falsi, which the Concise Oxford defines as, “Positive misrepresentation not involving direct lie but going beyond concealment of the truth,” or suppressio veri, meaning “Suppression of truth, misrepresentation by concealment of facts that ought to be made known.”

    An updating of Warren’s 1977 “root causes” argument is in order, naming the Jews who control the media, the purse strings of BLM, and make up the vanguard of communist activism in America as being arguably guilty of incitement to rioting, looting, arson, and attacks on whites by inner-city blacks. Would you say, for example, that, despite Jews making up the vanguard of communists committing the worst atrocities in human history in Russia a century ago, that it’s impermissible to mention this fact?

    It should be a commonsense observation that nothing will improve until the root cause of today’s rioting and violence is no longer misrepresented by concealment of facts that ought to be made known. Your defense, after all, comes down to the embarrassing stance that fear of the Jews justifies concealment of the truth.

    • Replies: @Some Guy
    , @Angharad
  87. My mom use to refer to not facing the truth as shutting the shudders. Shudder shutting seems to effect the educated the most. Probably due to dreams of networking for the climb up the next rung of the social ladder. For someone like me stuck on the IQ hump it is a bit of a betrayal that our best and brightest have chosen to use their smarts to become female like social climbers. We are so screwed.

  88. @termite

    The only problem with your theory is that African blacks, the ones who were, in your scheme, untrammeled by insidious white influence, score an entire standard deviation lower on IQ tests than do American blacks (who were, according to you, dumbed down by exposure to White civilization).

    And more; there is a direct correlation between percentage of white genes in an American “black” and IQ. So, the more white the black is, the more intelligent he/she is.

    But don’t let those facts get in the way of your “observations” and “informed opinion”–informed by what?, since you lead off by telling us that you have “no qualifications”.

  89. joef says:
    @termite

    It is strange that black Africans have thriving civilisations from ancient Egyptian times to recent colonial period if their IQ are so inferior as compared to the white race.

    .

    Revisionist history and cultural appropriation of Arab accomplishments.

    • Agree: Pheasant
    • Replies: @John Johnson
  90. joef says:
    @John Johnson

    He ignores that for the last 2000 years it was Christian society that built civilization.
    Atheist typically just another version of being a libtard.

    They say there is no evidence for God;
    yet there was no evidence for germ theory prior to the 19th century, yet germs always existed unseen prior to then. Pluto wasn’t discovered until 1930, yet is revolved around the sun before then. Lack of evidence is not the sole determinant factor that something exists. Greek philosophers talked of matter being composed of atoms, but unproven until Dalton in the early 1800s with atomic theory, actually verified by Einstein in 1905.

    If you give me a choice of who I would want in my fox hole in the coming 3rd world chaos & conflict this nation may be entering, I rather have a traditional conservative Christian (of any race), then some ego centric atheist, who would probably be as untrustworthy as any other narcissistic prog, limo libtard, or ghetto afro.

  91. @termite

    “Race doesn’t bother me in the least.”

    Based on the wording and content of your comment, it appears that it does.

    • Replies: @termite
  92. @termite

    It is strange that black Africans have thriving civilisations from ancient Egyptian times to recent colonial period if their IQ are so inferior as compared to the white race.

    Ancient Egypt and ancient Greek civilizations were both founded by white Europeans, not blacks.

    Blacks, brought in as slaves destroyed both, as they are currently in the process destroying Europe and America today.

    • Agree: Pheasant
    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  93. Realist says:
    @Robert Dolan

    He can’t accept the reality of IQ because he’s black…..and it would mean that he’d have to see himself and his own family members as inferior.

    Not necessarily, not all blacks have inferior intelligence.

  94. Realist says:
    @Biff

    What’s his problem? As a white I accept the fact that Japanese are smarter on average, and my own family members as inferior(esp. my dopey sister).

    But do you accept that Ashkenazi Jews are smarter, on average than Whites?

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
    , @Biff
  95. joef says:
    @Irish Savant

    Agreed
    My experience raised in the working class neighborhoods of the Bronx, with friends/relatives in Yonkers, Philly, and Newark areas having similar experiences (who all had the misfortune of shopping, taking public transportation, and going to public school with ghetto afros) is:
    Most ghetto afros are aggressive but not brave…
    They prefer easy targets where they either outnumber, or are armed against, are much larger then, or the victim is elderly or female or handicapped, as their targeted opponents. They swagger like a badass, but cannot take their beating like a man when they are the primary aggressor in a confrontation with a more than capable defender (crying that it was unfair like everything else they complain about)! There are a few exceptions like the guy running a drug corner or drug gang enforcer, or a trained boxer, (who don’t swagger but have the determination) but generally what you say is true.

    • Agree: Pheasant
  96. @joef

    Revisionist history and cultural appropriation of Arab accomplishments.

    DNA testing already put an end to the lie that Egyptians were African
    https://www.peopleofar.com/2017/06/05/ancient-egyptians-were-closer-to-armenians-than-to-africans-a-new-genetics-study-reveals/

    • Replies: @joef
  97. Realist says:
    @obwandiyag

    Most jobs can be done by a monkey.

    Are you writing from experience?

    • LOL: Non PC Infidel
  98. @John Johnson

    McWhorter is aware that celebrating thugs ‘n bitches is not helping Black America and in fact holding them back by celebrating the worst elements. But he doesn’t want a more conservative culture for everyone because that would help Whites.

    He once done wrote dat rap be poetry and shit. Dang.

  99. The Peul says:

    I’m a bit disappointed in the article and most of the comments here (although some comments were illuminating).

    Firstly, as some have pointed out, for Jared Taylor to call most whites cowards for not being honest about black-white racial issues in America is quite hilarious. Mr. Taylor has run American Renaissance for over two decades and has stayed away from criticizing Jewish misbehavior like a obese 80 year old diabetic trying his best to avoid being infected by the coronavirus.

    I wish Mr. Taylor was more careful in his construction of the following paragraph.

    But Prof. McWhorter has no idea where the madness comes from. He refuses to understand that it comes from denying the very facts he wants Charles Murray to shut up about. What explanation for black failure can there be but “white racism” if we can’t talk about race differences? Prof. McWhorter’s “culture” explanation only pushes the “racism” explanation back a step. How did blacks, stripped by slavery of their original culture, get this miserable “culture”? Obviously, whites gave it to them. That’s why we have to discover and root out imagined “racism” in music theory and in police shootings and in Prof. McWhorter’s favorite Dr. Seuss book. It’s also why Critical Race Theory is indispensable: It is the inherent malevolence of every living white man, boy, and baby that stifles the native genius of the black race. Blacks can reach their potential only when whites learn how awful they are, and dedicate their lives to atonement.

    While the paragraph could be read as McWorther’s cultural explanation could lead the conclusion of the last sentence, it could also insinuate that that is McWorther’s conclusion, which it is not. Moreover, most blacks that give the cultural explanation for black misbehavior, e.g. Thomas Sowell, do not arrive at that conclusion, so it is very puzzling that Mr. Taylor would even mention such a position. It seems to me that white liberals are most likely to arrive at the conclusion that Mr. Taylor states above, not black conservatives.

    Mr. Taylor does ask a pertinent question regarding cultural explanations of where black ghettos got the culture they currently have when considering they were stripped of their native African cultural. While most people point to genetics, I think Thomas Sowell and Chanda Chisala have a better explanation (https://www.unz.com/article/towards-a-theory-of-everyone/). And no, they are not blaming “Whitey”.

    It’s also quite amazing to me how most whites just lump all non-whites into the same bucket with no distinction among ethnic groups that could have very different behaviors and characteristics. This is of course, very detrimental when trying to ascertain any sort moral solutions for racial problems. For instance, White Nationalist lump Mexicans and Dominicans all in one caravan as “Hispanics.” For anyone who has lived in a Mexican and a Dominican neighborhood (and most White Nationalists have never talked to anyone from those ethnic groups), these are very different people. The same goes for blacks. Ron Unz criticized Charles Murray for not making the distinction among Hispanics as it relates to crime, but he also falls victim to the same blind-spot when analyzing black crime. I give him a pass here though, since it’s probably almost impossible to get statistics on the crime rates of different types of blacks. For instance (of course this is all a guess), I would think that the crime rates of Nigerian immigrants to England are probably much lower than that of the white English underclass. The same is probably true in America. According to Wikipedia, Texas has a considerable Nigerian immigrant population, yet I rarely hear of a spate of killings by Nigerians in Texas. Mind you, that Nigerians in Nigeria are not necessarily known for their lack of criminality there. Nor are Nigerians probably the most peaceful Africans.

    Likewise, even among the native African-American population itself, there is probably a world of a difference between groups of blacks. Not making these distinctions allows for no practical and moral solutions, which Mr. Taylor doesn’t seem to be interested in anyway — he’s been complaining about black misbehavior for going on 30 years with no results to show for it. Other than being against miscegenation and advocating for separation, I have never heard Mr. Taylor give a solution to the racial problem in America. While voluntary non-miscegenation is possible — most blacks marry (and prefer to do so) among their own race — this fantasy of separation is just that: a fantasy. America can’t even separate itself from Mexico, let alone blacks who are already citizens of this country. And, of course, Jewish elites, a group Mr. Taylor pretends doesn’t even exist, would never allow for white gentiles to create an Israeli-like ethno-state.

    One solution that the liberal elites have stealthily come up with for the black misbehavior issue is to just replace them with Mexicans. But Mr. Taylor is vehemently against this solution as well.

    Actually making distinctions amongst blacks would allow for practical solutions, e.g. encourage black elites to have more children than the black underclass and support moral policies towards that end (e.g. eliminating welfare). Of course, Mr. Taylor is not interested in short or long term practical solutions, he rather just complain.

    • Replies: @northeast
  100. bomag says:
    @omegabooks

    This is a common critique, which invokes the continuum fallacy.

    Short reply is that all admixtures are not created equal.

  101. Sean says:

    I suspect Prof. McWhorter is mentally hobbled by something more than his race. Our climate of racial-moral zealotry doesn’t just punish people who say the wrong thing; it makes them incapable of even thinking the wrong thing

    It is an adaptation for increasing cohesiveness within a community; increasing the size of the community itself. It has worked within nation states in the past, but with racially diverse societies we are at the point of diminishing returns.

  102. joef says:
    @John Johnson

    Agreed
    the revisionist history by afro americans is utter nonsense.
    They were Egyptians but were never in Egypt
    They were Greeks but were never in Greece
    Always looking to steal the accomplishments of others.

    And then there is the claims of lunacy that:

    they invented the light bulb…

    and there was an exclusive sixth beach during D Day, that was entirely composed of afros, who had the most casualties, and we wouldn’t have won the war without them, but its occurrence was totally suppressed by whitey…

    They did the invented heart surgery…

    Red Tail Tuskegee fighter pilots won the war when they were only in Italy providing bomber escorts, when air superiority was already accomplished against the Luftwaffe…

    That the black sailors at WW2 Port Chicago (California) Disaster didn’t really actually commit mutiny when the refused to unload critical munitions;
    when white sailors risked their lives without mutiny, who had to unload those same dangerous munitions at the front lines…

    and my favorite is Hidden Figures that 3 black secretaries figured out the formula to the moon , that all the hundreds of NASA phd engineers, physicists, and mathematicians, couldn’t figure out…

    and the academic libtards will actually entertain this nonsense

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    , @Marylou
  103. McWhorter, is what happens when you change your slave name on the advice of a Irishman to a Whiter name.
    How many magic Negro’s does it take to push a shopping cart?
    Zero, they all snatch, grab and run like da heck.

  104. Dumbo says:

    “Why people can’t face the truth?”

    Everyone has a truth that they can’t or won’t accept. Blacks can’t accept discussions of racial differences in intelligence (although I think this bothers only the smarter ones; the dumber ones are happy being dumb, or don’t really understand what it’s all about).

    And Jared can’t talk about Jews, because, well, Jews are powerful and going against them can ruin your gig. Also, Jews are smart, so it shows that IQ is not everything, which against go the HBD theories that “higher IQ is always better”.

    The truth? As Jack Nicholson said in that bad movie with only one memorable scene:

    • Replies: @gotmituns
  105. @Priss Factor

    Jarad Taylor is his own worst enemy. Writes well, but looks like a stereotypical racist bigot.
    As for AmRen, posting a comment gets deleted faster than niggaz trying to outrun a speeding poleez car.
    Message to Taylor: Don’t censor potential supporters seeking shelter from being censored by your enemies.

  106. @Priss Factor

    The browning of America.

    • LOL: Rob McX
  107. @joef

    If you give me a choice of who I would want in my fox hole in the coming 3rd world chaos & conflict this nation may be entering, I rather have a traditional conservative Christian (of any race), then some ego centric atheist, who would probably be as untrustworthy as any other narcissistic prog, limo libtard, or ghetto afro.

    I have zero faith in atheists to do anything of substance for the country and that is entirely based in personal experience with them.

    Out of all the atheists I have met I would describe maybe 2 or 3 as non-religious and not ego driven.

    The vast majority had major ego issues stemming insecurities and had fully embraced liberal secularism as the solution to all modern problems. Christianity of course was somehow preventing what would be a multiracial utopia on earth. In their minds this view is ‘the science’ even if they can’t explain how evolution would conveniently give all groups the same distribution of traits. I challenge anyone to spend time around atheists and reach a different conclusion.

    The traditional conservative view that atheism is incompatible with western society backs what I have experienced first hand. Atheism leads to anti-nationalism, anti-natalism and race denial. It is no wonder that leftists have pushed so hard for atheism among Whites. Non-Whites however are given a pass on religion and this is especially true for Islam. Leftists want highly intelligent Whites to be become isolated atheists that attack mainstream society and not pass on their genes to other Whites. Non-Whites however are just being vibrant and embracing their heritage through religion. This plan is working as seen by fertility rates.

    If anyone would like I can dig up Marxist texts on how Whites need to be undermined by attacking Christianity to lower their birth rates. There are also Marxist texts on how Islam needs to be embraced as a tool against Western society. Interestingly the early Bolsheviks had a similar policy which was to brutally attack the Orthodox church while looking the other way on Muslims in the Balkans and Central Asian republics. Marxism today and then portrays itself as against all religions but in practice it is obsessed with Whites and Christianity. This is because they know that only Whites can truly threaten Marxism (see WW2).

    • Agree: joef
    • Replies: @Mr Gen
  108. Jared

    I find it very hard to take you seriously. If you think the Native Born White American Working Class Historical Majority needs to master the finer points of IQ test score psychometrics in order to revolt against the demographic consequences of the passage of the 1965 Immigration Reform Act…all I can say is that you are clueless. You should have had a laser beam focus on the H1B…L1B Visa Program starting in 2000…and if you had done this, a laser beam focus on the H1B…L1B Visa Program would have been incompatible with intense focus on IQ test psychometrics…after all, Bill Gates and NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg used IQ test score psychometrics to justify race-replacing Native Born White Americans with Asians in STEM Labor Markets.

    If IQ Test Score Psychometrics is irrelevant to post-1965 race-replacement battle that we are fighting….what the hell is the point of IQ Test Score jibber jabber?…Europeans conquered a Continent and they didn’t lecture the Siberian Cannibals….peckish for some of that yummy MANCORN…..about IQ Test Score Psychometrics….

    • Agree: frontier
  109. anonlb says:
    @TelfoedJohn

    My 2c: african blacks have low average IQ, but there is much more 100+ IQ african blacks than american blacks. American black’s ancestors are selected for phisical work in harsh conditions, not for high IQ. Also, moving from Africa to UK is a kind of IQ test.

  110. @Tom F.

    If only we could have the conversation on man-made hybrids vs divine creation.

  111. Panadechi says:

    A picture is worth more than 1000 words.
    Sweden with diversity..

  112. anonlb says:
    @Dumbo

    Just ask how many black kids want to become rocket engineers, and compare answers to white and asian kids. This stat is more relevant than IQ.

  113. Neuday says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    I think a distinction needs to be made on Christian beliefs now that Christianity has been thoroughly Jewed over the past 50 years, as has every single other institution in Western Civilization. If you read Christian materials written before the mid-20th century they’re not nearly as cucked as you make Christianity out to be. I go to Mass every weekend, my household is very Christian, and I have no trouble reconciling HBD with Christianity. God made the nations; it’s the Globalists who despise both God and nations.

  114. @Realist

    They are more cunning when it comes to deceiving others. When it comes to understanding the most basic moral concepts, they are extremely stupid.

    • Replies: @Realist
  115. frontier says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Christianity aims at control of all of man’s actions and even his thoughts.

    I’ve seen communist philosophy professors who would rightfully laugh at you and kick you out of the room to go study some more. They were well aware of low IQ students who’d try to please them with mindless criticism of Christianity without making the effort to quote the smarter liars in order to make it somewhat believable. You talk like a person damaged by cult, who understands Christianity as just another cult, because occultism is what you do.

  116. @Priss Factor

    Another very trenchant post, Priss. I often noted that most of the notable black cultural figures, which include the music greats, a number of poets and writers, and others all seem to come from the pre 1960 period, when blacks still respected white culture, before the increasingly oppositional culture which has developed since civil rights and has been instigated to draw a cleft between white and black ever since.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  117. Old Prude says:
    @jsinton

    Culture is downstream of biology. Culture does not cause biology. Intelligence can be made more fruitful by a healthy culture, but it cannot be increased.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  118. Realist says:
    @JimDandy

    I’m white. I’m pretty sure Asian-Americans–on average–have a higher I.Q. than white Americans. Wow, that was really, really easy for me to write. Doesn’t bother me at all.

    How about… I’m pretty sure Ashkenazi Jews –on average–have a higher I.Q. than white gentiles…would that bother you?

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    , @Mr Gen
  119. Realist says:
    @Dumbo

    Perhaps the only solution will be for Chinese scientists to alter Black genes via CRISPR to make them more docile and smarter.

    The Chinese would never waste their time doing that. What is the point? What attributes do blacks have that are worth saving?

    The Chinese as well as Whites would do better to improve their own intelligence.

    • Replies: @Days of Broken Arrows
  120. Rosie says:
    @animalogic

    “If you don’t like this “brotherhood of man nonsense,” why don’t you go ahead and tell usmwhat you would replace it with.”
    Why?
    Why should it’s rejection require replacement, per se ?
    Why indeed should you limit those replacements to “religions”?
    without the dangerous step of importing the supernatural.

    This is progress. You seem to be acknowledging that Christianity is no more problematic than any other nontribal religion.

    You cannot have nothing. People need some sort of guiding system of beliefs about what matters in life, which you seem to acknowledge here:

    There are numerous ethical beliefs that deal with the relationship between humans

    That’s true. Do you have one in mind that you would consider a suitable replacement for Christianity. I submit that, whichever one you pick, or even if you invent your own, you are going to be left with the following inescapable question:

    How do I balance my duties to humanity, nation, family, and self?

    The only way to,avoid this question is to go full neitzchean might-makes-right total self-centeredness. There are a couple of fatal problems with this approach. First of all, people don’t believe it. We are social beings. As such, empathy is part of our nature, and that’s a good thing. You’re not going to convince White people that cats and dogs are unworthy of moral consideration, let alone other human beings.

    The second problem is that this view leaves you without any recourse to moral standards to assert your own rights vis-a-vis other groups. Whites aren’t going to assert themselves unless they believe that doing so is justified because they are being wronged in some way. Macho White men don’t want to acknowledge this fact, but that won’t make it go away.

    • Replies: @animalogic
  121. Realist says:

    There are a number of screeds written about this article downplaying the veracity of IQ tests and or the value of high intelligence. From the ones I have read, it appears they were written by those who inhabit the left side of the curve.

  122. Rosie says:
    @rec1man

    I offer the Hindu caste system for consideration

    There’s no way individualistic Whites would ever accept that. I certainly wouldn’t want to attempt to set myself up as an aristocrat over White people based on birth privilege. That could end very badly.

  123. frontier says:
    @Tom F.

    They had zero interest in facts, and instead pre-emptively began to deconstruct ‘the white man’s law’ and ‘the white man’s test.’

    That’s not an isolated case, J Tailor desrcibes McWhorter as one of the best blacks on racial issues but his reaction is the same:

    Here is Prof. McWhorter’s true objection to learning about race and IQ: If the facts about IQ are correct …meritocracy would mean that “we need to accept an America in which black people are rarely encountered in jobs requiring serious smarts.” He adds: “I would have to work very hard to come up with a way of accepting that world.”

    There you have it… Anybody knows what politics is about? Not Jared Taylor, who goes on to produce the following inanity:

    Prof. McWhorter wants a certain kind of world, and doesn’t care how many facts we have to smother and how many whites and Asians we have to punish for him to get it.

    Oh, really? How can it be? Lets wring our hands together… shame on you Prof McWhorter, shame on you…

  124. @joef

    I rather have a traditional conservative Christian (of any race), then some ego centric atheist, who would probably be as untrustworthy as any other narcissistic prog, limo libtard, or ghetto afro.

    Not to worry. They will have all starved to death, long ago.

  125. sonofman says:

    The title should be “Why people can’t face the fairy tales being propagated as truth. How is it that Europeans (all cultures) who have a history of fighting each other, can come to America and become a “race” called “White”? What persuaded Europeans to buy Africans who were enslaved by other Africans (because they were on sale?) and transport them to colonies and force them to work, eventually creating a group of people devoid of culture and heritage, and then specified as a “race” of people and given the nomenclature “Black”?

    Why is it that some people claim that the achievements of people throughout history were motivated by that person’s desire to demonstrate the dominance of their “race”?

    Everything about racism is imagined. Yes, the “Black” African-Americans have been and sometimes are still victims of prejudice and discrimination because they are a unique American sub-culture, but Europeans (and Africans, Arabs, Asians, etc.) have always been tribal and cultural narcissists, so it is never about “them” and always about “us”.

    What is the point of comparing group intelligence quotients? Maybe they should start accessing the stupid quotient. Some people actually claim dominance based upon IQ. How high does your IQ have to be to not be stupid?

    Stupid is:

    Europeans who founded America were motivated by centuries of oppression and tyranny (see the twelve articles of Memmingen, 1525). Not realizing the significance of the Declaration of Independence and the Revolutionary War as the primary source of the convictions and passions that constitute being American.

    Constantly regurgitating issues from the past that have long been resolved (my ex always did that. One of the reasons why she is an ex). And by the way, the Confederate States deservedly lost their right to maintain and expand slavery, but they have earned the right to observe and display the other aspects of their culture.

    Preferring socialism and communism over government of the people, by the people and for the people.

    Hypothesizing about individuals based upon physical attributes (CRT, black, white).

    Feeling guilty about stuff you didn’t do hundreds of years ago.

    Associating oneself with organizations whose methods of operation are deceit and arrogance.

    The cancel culture.

    Not recognizing the progress, growth and maturity of the national consciousness.

    The list can be expanded, but the truth is obvious. The United States is and always has been the exception and inspiration that is the thorn in the flesh of above the people ruling elites. That a portion of the European-Americans are willing to succumb to a false narrative and just give up everything that was fought for in wars, on battlefields and other civil conflicts, is evidence of a stupid quotient that is off the scales.

  126. gotmituns says:
    @Dumbo

    Also, Jews are smart
    ——————————–
    Not so smart. If they were so smart, they wouldn’t have been kicked out of so many counties. The better way of describing jews is, sly and cunning. But that only goes so far. In the end, the peasants always figure out the jew’s game.

  127. lysias says:
    @Robert Dolan

    I think it should be obvious to anyone who has watched any of McWhorter’s lectures that he is not inferior intellectually. I have a First Class Honours degree from Oxford and a Harvard Ph.D., and I learn plenty from his lectures.

    Intelligence seems to have a normal distribution among groups. So about one in a thousand is at least three standard deviations from the average. And that is about where I would guess McWhorter is among American blacks.

    If the distribution is normal, there have to be such outliers.

    • Replies: @Happy Tapir
  128. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    What makes you think it’s up to me to “replace” Christianity?

    I quite agree that it’s not your job to replace Christianity. Your job is to puff yourself up in mockery of Christianity. Keep up the good work.

  129. @omegabooks

    God made man in His image. If my image is not ape-like, I’m good. He didn’t create a hybridization from apes just to sit around and sponge off His creation, but clearly someone did.

    Think.

    • Replies: @Truth
  130. Also, Jews are smart
    ——————————–
    Not so smart. If they were so smart, they wouldn’t have been kicked out of so many counties. The better way of describing jews is, sly and cunning. But that only goes so far. In the end, the peasants always figure out the jew’s game.

    Jews are smart but the problem is their identity of contempt and personality of contempt. And the neuroticism. Smart people, even very smart ones, can be self-destructive or alienating of others.

    On the other hand, could Jews have survived as a people without such arrogance and neuroticism? Doubtful. Every advantage comes with disadvantage and vice versa.

    Also, keep in mind Anglos got kicked out of many parts of the world when the empire came crashing down.

  131. @Realist

    Your post indicates very strongly that you are a nitwit and jackass with an autistic fixation on IQ test score psychometric jibber jabber.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
    • Replies: @Realist
  132. @Old Prude

    Culture is downstream of biology. Culture does not cause biology.

    Not in a lifetime but culture does shape biology over many lifetimes. Culture determined what is most prized and valued in society. So, people with certain traits(favored by culture) gained greater worth and privileges. In the past, it meant better chance to gain spouses and create kids. Jewish IQ cannot be understood apart from culture. Culturally, Jews prized Rabbinical scholarship and business-smarts above all else. Jews best at studies or trading made the most money and best chance at family and having lots of kids.

    So, while a dummy who reads books will not become smarter, a dumb people that come to prize books and bestow most rewards(especially of sexual nature) to the smarter among them will become smarter over time because smarter among them will have more kids while the dumber will have fewer.

    • Replies: @uman
    , @John Johnson
  133. @lysias

    What is your PhD in? I really like prof McWhorters’s linguistic lectures from the teaching company too. I’ve listened to two of them so far! 😊

    • Replies: @lysias
  134. @Rosie

    Thank you for your comment, you make some good points.
    Unfortunately I can’t agree with you.
    You are correct you, cannot have nothing. But you are incorrect to think that the only secular alternative to religion is Neitschean.
    All ethical systems are open to consideration. (Nietzche did not prescribe “self centeredness” — he observed that different people should be judged by different standards.
    Caesar is not to be judged by the standards applicable to a Legionnaire.
    (1) there’s no need to import the supernatural into personal relations (stranger, acquaintance, friend, family, the world). Each demands different judgements.
    A humanist can use bits of many moralities. The absence of a god is at best, no more advantage than disadvantage. The supernatural is indeed more fraught with danger…. (passion, zealotry etc).
    (2) Your introduction of race is a red herring. Pragmatics isnt necessarily morality. (assuming there’s any reality to your “white” business)
    Ultimately (to reference your racialist issue) a people will or won’t defend their culture — introduction of the supernatural may seem like an easy fix — but it’s 2021 & many will reject a religious explanation & program. Simply, a people, self conscious, have a right (should they choose) to survive & thrive. It’s axiomatic.

    • Replies: @Mr Gen
    , @Rosie
  135. Truth says:
    @CauCasiAnn

    If my image is not ape-like, I’m good.

    Hmmm, I think we need to see a photo.

  136. JimDandy says:
    @Realist

    I already knew that, and it doesn’t bother me at all. What does bother me is when disingenuous Jews try to use I.Q. to explain away, say, the ridiculous overrepresentation of Jews in the Ivy League. It actually makes me kind of embarrassed for the Jews who make that claim, because I think many of them actually begin to believe their own bullshit. Which, you know, makes them, well, dumb when it comes to that issue, no matter what their IQ tests say.

    • Replies: @Realist
  137. Richard B says:
    @Johnny Hooker

    In this article Mr. Taylor gives nothing less than a virtuostic performance of a paralogism, a protracted and unconscious violation of one’s own logic.

    Unfortunately, however, since that performance was in fact rooted deeply in the unconscious, he thought he was doing something else.

    • Replies: @Rabbitnexus
  138. KenH says:

    is about to create a revolutionarily inclined white identity that will plunge America into a race war.

    There might be interracial skirmishes around the country but I doubt there will be a full blown race war. What McWhorter seems to fear is white tribalism.

    Like Priss Factor said when push comes to shove McWhorter is black man before he’s an American. As such, he places negro group interests above unpleasant facts of science that he claims to respect and fears his fellow blacks could lose their place in society which is largely artificial due to anti-white discrimination and the lowering of standards.

    This is similar to Jews who live like kings but who fear white tribalism and have been marshalling all of their resources to keep whites racially unconscious and divided (and sub divided) so we are much less of a threat to them. At the same time they are importing antagonistic racial groups from the third world en masse.

    That is a lot further than most whites would go.

    Don’t give him too much credit. He knows black skin privilege allows him greater 1st amendment privileges when discussing racial matters.

    Unless whites become tribalistic and fast our future in America is very dark, pun intended.

  139. Emslander says:

    Low IQ among those groups who are currently the protected groups in the bankrupt liberal society may have lower IQ’s for the simple fact that it’s a characteristic for which they are rewarded in many and diverse manners from the moment they are born.

    If you reward high IQ’s, mothers, from before birth, foster intelligence in their children. I know high IQ people and I know how that’s done. Blacks could be doing the same thing, except that intelligence among black children is not rewarded and is subtly punished at every turn. I’ve seen that, as well, and I’m sure the professor has, too.

  140. @Robert Dolan

    McWhorter is a pretty high IQ dude. A legit academic. Facing the reality of IQ doesn’t affect him directly, but I think he sees the impending shitstorm that would ensue if people started talking openly about this. I mean seriously, how do you think most black people would take this information? Blacks with high IQs wouldn’t care much I reckon, as they likely already know the truth. But the rest would have a fit and attack the messenger as a right-wing nazi (as they have already done). They’ve been brainwashed for decades to believe that everything bad that happens to them is a result of white supremacy. They’ve been coddled since childhood and all agency has been taken away. Meanwhile, dumb white people often get the hint in highschool that they aren’t cut out for college and adjust accordingly by taking up a trade or something to that effect. No big deal. Telling black people that they just aren’t up to snuff is not going to go well, especially after they’ve been told that they’re all born with magical abilities that somehow don’t show up on an IQ test.

    • Replies: @Slimer
  141. Mr Gen says:
    @John Johnson

    As a lapsed athiest, I have to agree with you. Life is a journey, and we have a brief window in which to figure out what’s important. In my 20s I became somewhat expert in evolutionary biology, and my perspective was broadened – but it was also curtailed by my athiestic view of the world. I have come to realise that being a member of a church of one is no good for the human soul, and despite the inherent flaws in Christianity (the best of a bad bunch by a country mile), there is power in a collective ethos. I’ve considered going to church, but apparently not believing in God is a bit of a deal breaker. It’s usually at this point that people think I’m trolling, but I’m being straight up. Individuality is a recipe for extinction when faced by those who see themselves as a collective. I have sympathy for almost all of the christian message. I guess I’ll have to start Athiests for Jesus.

    Regarding McWhorter – I’ve watched him with Glenn Loury many times, and whilst Glenn is a lovely old man, McWhorter is utterly full of himself. He can’t see that he has a position of supreme privilege, and cannot see that I for one would be cancelled for engaging in the topics that he avoids.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  142. Realist says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    They are more cunning when it comes to deceiving others. When it comes to understanding the most basic moral concepts, they are extremely stupid.

    Very evasive response…so I believe your answer to my question is NO!

  143. Given that Mensa is full of jackasses who hold a wide spectrum of foolish beliefs and as a group contribute very little, I’m going to call BS on this adulation of IQ.

  144. Mr Gen says:
    @animalogic

    There are no rights, there is just survival of your genes over a long enough time frame and individuality will lead to the genetic dustbin. Neitschean or not, Libitarian or not, none of it matters when your throat is being cut.

  145. Mr Gen says:
    @Realist

    I’m 50-50, but my white dad was smarter than my Jewish mum. I’m trying to think if there is a single truth that I cannot face. Mmm.

    • Replies: @Realist
  146. PJ London says:

    One of the problems is that no-one thinks things through.
    Quotas killed the Black society and dream.
    When a chess team of 6 players meet another team of exactly equal capability they will end up with 6 draws, it doesn’t take rocket science to figure out the strategy.
    Team A puts it’s number 6 player (least capable) against team B no 1. He gets beaten .
    However A1 now plays B2 and beats him, A2 plays B3 and beats him, A3 etc. The end result is 5 games to 1 for team A.
    By promoting a slightly less competent black to Harvard, he is outclassed, he would have fitted perfectly into say Syracuse and been successful.
    However in Harvard he is not capable of maintaining the level of his peers. The other students see that “Blacks” can’t keep up and are stupid. He see he can’t keep up and feels stupid and a loser. Meanwhile someone who would have been capable at say Clarkson is pushed into Syracuse. He is not capable of maintaining the level of his peers. The other students see that “Blacks” can’t keep up and are stupid. He see he can’t keep up and feels stupid and a loser. And so on down the line.
    It is exactly the same in commerce and industry. By forcing employers to promote Blacks beyond their level of skill and experience, you reinforce the stereotype. (The same goes for Women.)
    There are not enough short men playing basketball. Let’s pass a law saying that each professional team must play 3 players 5 feet 7 inches tall, (and they must be white), how successful would the team be and how would it feel to be a white player or a black player?
    There are brilliant blacks and really dumb whites but by forcing people out of their niche you are causing incredible damage.
    Everyone becomes frustrated and angry.
    There can only be one outcome.

    • Agree: Carroll Price
    • Replies: @Spud Boy
  147. BorisMay says:

    IQ and a black’s inability to accept facts are not the real issue.

    For success, any success, people need a stable culture and the ability to organise.

    Blacks do not have a stable culture. The men abuse the women sexually leaving them pregnant, and their offspring fatherless. This is not a stable culture. Further blacks are like overgrown teenagers when adults. Emotions rule and result in high levels of violence and murder amongst their own people. None of this, at any level, from politics through to school provides a stable environment.

    On top of that, or you might say because of it, blacks are not good organisers, are not good at cooperating one with another because of petty jealousies and they can only function as selfish egotistical bullies.

    These are the real reasons why black society fails, and it is the same in all black societies such as in the USA, in Africa and in France.

    Low IQ is just coincidental and high levels of violence are because blacks, by and large, never grow up.

    As President Castro of Cuba said when talking about the blacks: ‘they are lazy, indolent and they spend their money on frivolities!’ He might have added to clarify these points further, ‘because blacks never leave adolescence.’ They not only never grow up but within their culture there is no need to grow up, since it is based upon inconsequential values and poor morals.

    • Agree: Pheasant
    • Replies: @JimDandy
  148. TKK says:
    @Priss Factor

    Do you think he really thought that was a toilet or he was just being a jerk?

  149. Realist says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    Your post indicates very strongly that you are a nitwit and jackass with an autistic fixation on IQ test score psychometric jibber jabber.

    I must have hit a nerve as is evidenced by your ad hominem attack. I’m sorry you find yourself on the left side of the curve…but you should take that up with your parents.

  150. @Happy Tapir

    In the past, blacks gained via cultural crossbreeding with whites. Whites also gained this way, especially in music. Charlie Parker and Miles Davis both had extensive knowledge of white and/or modern music. James Baldwin read extensively the classics of Western Lit. There was little race-mixing back then. The dynamics of racial mixing then was cultural and intellectual.

    Nowadays, blacks don’t care much about white culture. The attitude ranges from blissful indifference to toxic hostility bordering on phobia. Everything white is ‘racist’ or has something to do with ‘white privilege’. Or, it is ‘sexist’ or ‘homophobic’, amusing coming from nonwhites because all human societies, white and nonwhite, have been mostly ‘sexist’ and ‘homophobic’ by today’s insane standards.
    But then, many whites don’t care about white culture either. Raised on insta-thrill pop culture centered around rap, superhero movies, videogames, and pornification of just about everything(even kiddie culture at Disney), a lot of white kids haven’t the patience or curiosity for anything that requires some effort and commitment. Or, they’ve been indoctrinated that Western Civilization is ‘racist’. And yet, because of the undeniable greatness of the West, there is the OTHER agenda of blackening it. It used to be ‘Hey Hey Ho Ho, Western Civ has got to go’, but we increasingly hear, ‘Hey Hey Ho Ho, Western Civ was Negro’. Not only are there theories that Ludwig van Beethoven was black but even clearly white historical figures, male and female, are increasingly depicted as black by Jewish-and-Cuck-run media. British queens, Finnish heroes, Roman generals, and etc. have been presented as black.

    https://www.classicfm.com/composers/beethoven/was-black-twitter-debates-african-heritage/

    Maybe Robert E. Lee will be rehabilitated if he’s presented as black while the slaves are made white. The ‘Hamilton’-ization of history. Then, maybe blacks and progs will feel, “Black Robert E. Lee was a great man for fighting to defend an institution that enslaved all those evil racist honkeys who deserved no freedom.” What blacks denounce as ‘racist’ is suddenly cool if the great white man/woman is made black. And white cucks and even conzos seem to embrace this. Maybe they figure it’s the only way to save Western Civ. Any great white figure in history or culture can instantly go from ‘punkass lowlife racist honkey mofo’ to ‘badass supercool dude’ IF black-faced. Maybe it will even impact Neo-Nazis who decide to make Hitler black.

    Anyway, if cultural crossbreeding of yesteryear is gone due to black self-absorption and decline of serious appreciation of culture and ideas, it seems the only way left for blacks to gain from whites is via miscegenation. The hell with white ideas and culture. Rather, hump the white ho and appropriate white genes(pertaining to higher IQ and attractiveness) for the black race. After all, the product of white/black mixing is considered fully black than half-black/half-white. No one called Obama a half-black president. No one called Tiger Woods a quarter-black golfer. And this is gaining steam because race-mixing is considered as ‘progressive’. But is it really?

    [MORE]

    Actually, race-mixing isn’t leftist or anything new. It’s older than the oldest profession of prostitution. The fate of Neanderthals can attest to that. Men like to pork anything, the age-old tradition of victors taking the women of the vanquished. This is why white folks got some Neanderthal genes. Cro-Magnons defeated and destroyed the Neanderthals but porked their women as sexual trophies. So, race-mixing isn’t anything new but a weapon and product of war, invasion, conquest, oppression, domination, and humiliation. And what is happening today between whites and blacks is just another chapter in this power struggle of winners and losers, not of equals.

    Were the Ancient Egyptians ‘progressive’ or ‘leftist’ for taking women of defeated tribes for sexual pleasure? Were the Romans ‘progressive’ or ‘leftist’ for having done the same? Were Arabs ‘progressive’ for having used white slave women as sex objects? Were the Moors ‘leftist’ for having humiliated Southern Europeans by race-mixing with white women? Were the Ottoman Turks ‘progressive’ for having used Greek girls(and boys) as sexual trophies? Were the Mongols ‘leftist’ for having sexually exploited all the peoples they conquered? Did Persian and Russian rejoice over this ‘liberation’ by the Golden Horde? Were the Spanish Conquistadors a bunch of ‘leftist progressives’ for having forced race-mixing on the brown natives of the Americas? Were Southern slave-owners ‘leftist’ for having sexually exploited black slave women? Were US troops ‘leftist’ for having turned the women of Vietnam into a whores for the US military? (If memory serves me right, it was the Viet Cong that was considered leftist in that struggle.) So, there is nothing that is intrinsically leftist or progressive about race-mixing. The history of race-mixing has been mostly brutal, aggressive, and humiliating(especially for the men of the losing side).

    Now, there is a way race-mixing could be construed as leftist or progressive. The universal strain of leftism may argue that all men and women are brothers and sisters under the skin. Therefore, the ideal is for all of mankind to acknowledge one another’s humanity and shared destiny and fall in love regardless of race and skin color or whatever. A colorblind coming together of the races based on the global union of the heart.
    But is this what is happening? No. The fact is Jungle Fever isn’t colorblind but color-bound because black men associate white women with more attractive features and because white women associate black men with more muscle and bigger dongs. There was a time when genuinely leftist Jews(though they could have been disingenuous back then) pushed the notion that all races are essentially alike apart from skin color. Especially Jews who grew up under communist parents seem to believe this. David Horowitz was one, but in the Sixties and Seventies, he couldn’t help realize that blacks were about thug-muscle power and felt hostility toward geek lefty Jews. Blacks cynically exploited Jewish idealism whereas Jews, for all their smarts, were blind to the actuality of racial dynamics. In the book DESTRUCTIVE GENERATION, the story of Fay Stender, a Jewish leftist lawyer who defended black criminals and had sex with them, suggested that there were racial-sexual dynamics between Jews and blacks that went beyond common cause based on ideology.

    Since then, Jewish Leftism has pretty much vanished. Almost no Jew accepts Marxist theory of anything. No Jew of any consequence is a communist, or even a real humanist. Most Jews who matter know privately that race does matter and that racial equality is just a pipe-dream. Most Jews now regard themselves as superior and deserving to rule over dumb and/or weak-willed goyim(like the ‘darn tootin’ guy in FARGO). If Jews carry on with the proggy-sounding agenda of ‘anti-racism'(in a world where they instigate wars and crises in which Zionists are favored and countless Arabs are pushed through the meat grinder), it is only to guilt-bait whites into cucking and sucking up to Jewish Supremacists. The current prog-agenda isn’t to defeat all forms of supremacism but to sustain Jewish supremacism by labeling any hint of white autonomy and agency as ‘white supremacist’. Bait-and-Switch.

    Indeed, this is why today’s race-mix propaganda is so different from that of yesteryear. In a movie like Stanley Kramer’s GUESS WHO BE COMING TO DINNER?, the white girl hardly notices that she’s hooked up with a NEGRO! She just goes on and on about his fine character and social status as successful doctor. So, it’s all about content of character or some such. It’s not about Jungle Fever but a sexual version of TO SIR WITH LOVE, with Sidney Poitier reliably playing the capable and upstanding Negroid.
    Fast Forward to today, and the message is clearly race-conscious, or Jungle Feverish. It’s not about color-blind unity of the races but how white women should go with black men because they are superior to white men in manhood. It’s essentially the Vietnamization of the white race. In Saigon during the war, Vietnamese women were turned into whores and sexual property of the conquering white and black soldiers whereas Vietnamese males’ roles were as cucks, collaborators, and coolies. Today, this dynamics is pushed all across America. Robin DiAngelo’s stuff about White Fragility is just BS. We know she has Jungle Fever(and most white men have Cuckitis).

    The massive race-mixing in the US isn’t part of anything new. It’s not ‘leftist’ or ‘progressive’ but continuation of the age-old racial dynamics of the conquering race taking the women of the loser race. Whites may be smarter than blacks, but that doesn’t matter because Jews are smarter than whites. With their money and power of persuasion(with sticks and carrots), smarter Jews have pressured smart whites into worshiping dumb but stronger blacks. If there’s only Bob and Billy, and if Bob is smarter than Billy, Bob will likely control Billy, even if Billy is stronger. Brains often wins over brawn. But if there’s also Bruce and if Bruce is smarter than Bob, and if Bruce favors Billy over Bob, Bob too will end up favoring Billy over himself because smarter Bruce insists it be so. And that is where the US is at today. If there were no Jews in the US, whites would be better positioned vis-a-vis blacks. Whites would use their smarts to come up with best ways to control blacks. But because Jews are smarter than whites and effectively control white minds, if Jews say, “Blacks are holy whereas whites are assholy, therefore whites must kiss black ass for redemption”, plenty of whites go along in obedience to Jews with the prestige of higher IQ.

    Today’s race-mixing isn’t about colorblind coming together of the races. Rather, it’s about power and preferences. Jewish and black power prefer white women, and white men just accept their lot as cuck-losers and not only shut up but CELEBRATE Shtetl Fever and Jungle Fever as the greatest thing since sliced bread.
    Even though the power-dynamics have changed drastically in the US, the public discourse still carries on with outdated paradigm of ‘white supremacism’ or ‘systemic racism’. This is especially so because Jewish Power has yet to rear its head as the true master of New America, and white morons, cucked and craven, don’t have the guts to spell out the nature of the new reality. The effect is downright surreal. We have the Jewish supremacist overclass forcing white cuck-elites to carry on with the charade that the US is ruled by ‘white supremacists’ who must be resisted in order to create a society of greater ‘equity’ and ‘inclusion’. If so, how about including some Palestinian-Americans in Joe Biden’s Jewish-packed government? How about some real talk of equity between Jews who grow ever richer and goyim who grow ever poorer? Super-rich Jewish Supremacists control all the institutions and industries with supremacist sway over us, but we are supposed to believe that the ‘supremacist’ threat comes from truck drivers and lower-middle class & working class whites who call for fair elections.

    The current race-mixing propaganda is about dominating, humiliating, and erasing the white race. It’s about the white race reduced to a mere prize or trophy. Like horses, or canines at a dog show. The race-mix message is that White Beauty now belongs to Jews who got all the money and blacks who got the glory as rap stars, athletes, and studs. In other words, Jews and blacks are active agents of power. Jews are in the game of money and influence. Blacks are in the game of celebrity and sports. As white males lost to Jews in the brain-game and lost to blacks in the brawn-game, they should accept their loser-dom. They no longer deserve to keep white women as racial possessions. No, white women are for sale or up for grabs as trophies and prizes for the real winners of America, Jews and blacks.
    Trophy or Prize is coveted but passive, not active. Athletes are active. Winners take the trophy. Men in business and institutions are active in the struggle for power. Jewish message is clear. Jews and blacks are active as competitors in the power-grab. Whites, especially white women, are merely passive as trophies. If white men want to play an active role, it must as ‘assists’ to Jews and blacks, much like Sikhs were sidekicks to the British Imperialists. Active in assistance, not resistance, that is the Rule for Whites according to Jews. No wonder Jewish ‘conservatives’ tell whites that the Critical Race Theory(pushed by ‘progressive’ Jews) isn’t anti-white but just anti-something-or-the-other. Jews of all stripes feel they must snuff out any spark of white consciousness. Both ‘progressive’ and ‘conservative’ Jews insist that white activism must be to ASSIST than RESIST Jewish Supremacism. So, while Jews tirelessly call for RESISTANCE to ‘white supremacist’ MAGA, whites are supposed to embrace ASSISTANCE to Jewish Power. Even when Jews ravaged Trump’s presidency, what did the orange-man clown do? He pardoned Jewish crooks.

    Jewish supremacist race-mix message is as follows: “You white guys lost to us in mental power and lost to blacks in muscle-power. So, just be a bunch of dweeby cucks while your women come over to us as our trophies.” This is NOTHING NEW. It’s the same sexual dynamics of age-old imperialism and conquest. It is like when Spanish men sexually conquered native brown women or when US neo-imperialist G.I.’s turned Vietnam into one big race-mixing whore-house. It’s just that the Vietnamization is now happening to the white race. This is what the removal of Robert E. Lee statues and Confederate monuments are all about. And there is hardly any resistance from Southern Whites, especially as white men down there are also cucked in their mindless worship of black-dominated college football where Negroes take white women.
    This is especially so as Jews pegged the New Morality to idolatry than idealism, a policy as profoundly eventful as the creation of the Petro-Dollar where oil was fixed to the value of the dollar. If the Petro-Dollar meant Oil = US currency, the creation of the Jewgromo(Jewish-Negro-Homo)-Morality meant Jews, Negroes, Homos = Morality and Spirituality. It isn’t about all races bound by same rules and being judged by the same yardstick but about some groups being intrinsically precious whereas others are innately tainted. So, celebrating blacks even as blacks burn down cities and beat up innocent people is deemed ‘moral’. Praising Jews and Israel to high heaven even as Jews spread terror and mayhem all across the Middle East and Ukraine is deemed ‘moral’. As a result, the white race isn’t merely sexually cucked but spiritually cucked to Jews and blacks.
    Of course, there is ONE way white males can gain some holy ‘woke’ points but it is as homos who take dongs(often black, as with Andrew Sullivan) up their bungs or as trannies in flowery dresses and pretend to be ‘women’ despite the hairy chest, pud, and balls. (Jews will favor white male trannies over women because they tend to favor deviant-minority over any natural majority, seek to undermine morale-boosting moral clarity among goyim, and insist that reality is what Jews say it is regardless of any objective truth. Anyone who can make others accept 2 + 2 = 5 despite the obvious truth of 2 + 2 = 4 has awesome power indeed.. like the overlords behind Big Brother Cult in Orwell’s 1984.)

  151. Rosie says:
    @animalogic

    you make some good points.

    Thanks.

    But you are incorrect to think that the only secular alternative to religion is Neitschean.

    Whoa hold on a minute. I did not say that “the only secular alternative to religion is neitzchean”!

    What I said is that any secular alternative that is not neitzschean will necessarily require a balancing of duties to humanity, nation, family, and self. That is a very different claim. Secular utilitarianism is an alternative that is certainly not Neitzschean, but it does require the aforementioned balancing act.

    (Nietzche did not prescribe “self centeredness” — he observed that different people should be judged by different standards.

    I disagree, but then he was an unsystematic thinker and therefore difficult to pin down, so you’re free to interpret him as you wish. (That’s the problem with unsystematic thinking.)

    (Nietzche did not prescribe “self centeredness” — he observed that different people should be judged by different standards.

    My post was a reply to Dr. Morgan, who blames Christianity for the White Man’s Disease. I don’t think Christianity is an “easy fix.” I just don’t think it is an obstacle to White self-assertion either.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  152. Realist says:
    @JimDandy

    I already knew that, and it doesn’t bother me at all.

    That’s good, but from the rest of your comment…it appears it does bother you.

    What does bother me is when disingenuous Jews try to use I.Q. to explain away, say, the ridiculous overrepresentation of Jews in the Ivy League.

    Why do you say disingenuous? You already admitted that on average Jews are smarter than gentiles… to what do you attribute their ridiculous overrepresentation in the Ivy Leagues?

    Do you not believe they score high on entrance exams?

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    , @Skeptikal
    , @DrWatson
  153. @Realist

    Two questions:

    1). If the Chinese are so smart, how come they can’t tell they smell like their kitchens?

    2). If white people are so smart, how come their women can’t count calories.

    The end.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
  154. Realist says:
    @Mr Gen

    I’m 50-50, but my white dad was smarter than my Jewish mum.

    I am not sure what you think the relevance of that is. On average Ashkenazi Jews are smarter than Whites gentiles.

    Ashkenazi Jews are an ethnic part of the White race.

    I’m trying to think if there is a single truth that I cannot face.

    Mmm…perhaps if you found you were not as smart as either one of them.

    • Replies: @Mr Gen
  155. northeast says:
    @The Peul

    All of this massive intervention that you suggest offering up solutions to the browning of America (which in practicality will not work very much, if at all) could have been easily avoided if the 90% white demographics of 1960 America were left to stand minus the 1965 Immigration Act.

    The entire Western world never needed all this “new blood”.

    • Replies: @The Peul
  156. ccoffer says:

    ” Abstract tests are a highly artificial thing .”

    This is inane gibberish. It reminds me of why I find the black folks that are supposed to be the “smart ones” so thoroughly unimpressive. Thomas Sowell also dances around the IQ thing with blacks and spends chapters explaining away the obvious. It’s sad.

  157. To acknowledge the 800 pound Dindu in the room is akin to triggering it.

  158. @Priss Factor

    I live your use of the black vernacular. Tell me, did you ever get around to watching Ladyhawke?

  159. @joef

    They did the invented heart surgery…

    I assume that is derived from the first open heart surgery which was performed by White South Africans.

    and my favorite is Hidden Figures that 3 black secretaries figured out the formula to the moon , that all the hundreds of NASA phd engineers, physicists, and mathematicians, couldn’t figure out…

    and the academic libtards will actually entertain this nonsense

    I really wish it was only libtards that entertain this garbage.

    A lot of conservatives want to believe in hidden Blacks throughout history. I assume it helps them deal with the White guilt they absorb from mainstream media.

    One conservative relative of mine went and bought Hidden Figures and then told me I had to watch it. She said it’s an important story that shows how so much of history is kept from us.

    It takes a mere 5 minutes on Google to see how the whole thing is a con.

    Sadly it has become a trend to add non-existing people to what are purported as historical documentaries.

    In the Chernobyl mini series they created a female scientist that does a lot of the heavy work. She never existed at all but the writer claims she was added to represent all the scientists that worked on the project. Egalitarians seem to think it is perfectly fine to re-write history as long as your heart is in the write place.

    They don’t seem to get how offended they would be if the politics were reversed.

    Someone should create a movie about Shaka Zulu but add a fictional White assistant that does all the battle strategy for him. Let’s see how well that goes.

    • LOL: joef
    • Replies: @joef
  160. Triteleia Laxa: “This isn’t how people act.”

    Sure it is. But because they are lying scum like you, they just don’t admit it. To not acknowledge Darwin’s truth that the entire earth is but a battleground in the struggle for life takes world-class ability as a liar. That so many fools will rush to agree to your absolute inversion of the truth only testifies to the success of lying as a tactic. Indeed, as a liar, you are such a virtuoso you can’t resist lying even to yourself about the nature of reality.

    The fact that people can’t face that their own perfidious nature and that life is war points to the deeper issue of how a creed such as Christianity, which of the religions seems to be based on the most preposterous lies of all, came to be so widespread in the first place. To understand this, we have to understand that deception is just another weapon in the arsenal with which people make war on one another. Deception and its offspring self-deception are vital to the preservation of liars as a species, and as liars are now the dominant species on earth, it necessarily follows that Christianity will be of very wide distribution indeed.

    In brief, the answer to Taylor’s implied question, “Why can’t people face the truth?”, is that they are born liars, shaped by evolution to be so. They enjoy telling lies, even to themselves, and they also enjoy telling lies to others as a way of manipulating them. They have been lying to themselves and to others since the dawn of time, but deception as a battle tactic really only came into its own with the advent of Christianity. In the words of one of the greatest white men who ever existed:

    The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity’s illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity. Bolshevism practices a lie of the same nature, when it claims to bring liberty to men, whereas in reality it seeks only to enslave them. In the ancient world, the relations between men and gods were founded on an instinctive respect. It was a world enlightened by the idea of tolerance. Christianity was the first creed in the world to exterminate its adversaries in the name of love. Its key-note is intolerance.

    • Agree: acementhead
    • Replies: @Polemos
  161. @Priss Factor

    And there is hardly any resistance from Southern Whites, especially as white men down there are also cucked in their mindless worship of black-dominated college football where Negroes take white women.

    You make a valid point. How can you be a loyal Red Tide fan without worshipping Negroes in the process?

    • Replies: @Truth
  162. WorkingClass: “I quite agree that it’s not your job to replace Christianity. Your job is to puff yourself up in mockery of Christianity. Keep up the good work. ”

    Mockery is your line, not mine, fuckwit.

    The truth is good enough for me.

  163. 3g4me says:
    @Anon

    @51 Anon[289]: Standard civnattery. No, the Great Society did not destroy the mythical thriving black middle class. It merely massively taxed Whites to pacify increasingly feral blacks. Black rates of murder, adultery, divorce, etc. were always multiples of White rates. They’ve been a problem since Lincoln’s war. Your ‘recollections’ are false.

  164. @Rosie

    What I said is that any secular alternative that is not neitzschean will necessarily require a balancing of duties to humanity, nation, family, and self. That is a very different claim. Secular utilitarianism is an alternative that is certainly not Neitzschean, but it does require the aforementioned balancing act.

    Secular utilitarianism has already been tried in Sweden and it completely failed.

    Most of their Lutheran churches are empty and their entire country has turned against itself.

    Sweden is one of the most secular countries in the world and this is the country where:
    1. Boys in some schools were forced to pee sitting down for the sake of fairness
    2. The government stopped collecting statistics on immigrant crime because it didn’t like the results
    3. Parties that are against immigration can be banned
    4. Sweden has “no go” areas where Muslims have taken over. Police are ordered to not enter those areas which means they have ceded sovereignty.
    5. A judge can degree you to be “racially divisive” without evidence and put you in jail. A woman was actually imprisoned for stating in a FB post that most rapes are committed by immigrants (which the government at one point admitted is true).

    So color me skeptical when I see Christianity being blamed for hostile secular egalitarianism.

    https://www.thelocal.se/20150413/swedes-least-religious-in-western-world/

    Swedes ditched Christianity and embraced far-left race denial and third world immigration. Most Swedes today are completely indoctrinated and support censorship of websites like this one. So much for blaming religion for a lack of critical thinking.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  165. 3g4me says:
    @Z-man

    @70 Z-man: Yes, McWhorter is married to a White woman. While he will never publicly admit it, he knows his mulatto children will have better genetics due to greater White admixture. He’s just your standard black ‘intellectual,’ celebrated by White cuckservative civnats who are terrified to state racial truths themselves without a non-White covering for them. Same goes for Thomas Sowell.

    • Replies: @Z-man
  166. lysias says:
    @Happy Tapir

    My Ph.D. is in Classical Philology, which is what Harvard calls its doctoral program in Classics.

    • Replies: @Happy Tapir
  167. Truth says:
    @Carroll Price

    You make a valid point. How can you be a loyal Red Tide fan without worshipping Negroes in the process?

    It’s Crimson Tide, Tank McNamarra.

  168. @TelfoedJohn

    It’s true that Africans and people from many Asian countries do better than European English in English government schools. In England the children of professionals tend to go to private schools which the English call “public” schools.

    There are also a lot of well educated, intelligent non-Europeans who were allowed to migrate to the UK because of their skills. The same applies even more strongly to Australia. There are some accepted refugees who are just average people but the great majority of non-Europeans who come to Australia are more intelligent than the European average. That strikes me as a form of cheating.

    Latin American migration to the USA is largely by ordinary working class people who arrive illegally.

    The slaves sold by African Blacks to the Europeans were possibly inferior in IQ to the African average. They score higher than average Africans do on IQ tests. Either environmental effects, including willingness to try on academic tests, or their 20-25% European ancestry appear to have an effect.

    There’s also considerable variation between African groups and why wouldn’t that apply to intelligence as well as physical attributes? I’m reluctant to think of Nigerian Ibos who have a university degree, like their fathers and grandfathers, as members of an unintelligent tribe. Although they’re members of an elite, that elite seems to be too large.

    The only thing that seems certain is that there’s no White Man Magic that stops traditional US Blacks (unlike African migrants to the USA) from working at school, from doing well enough to get a well paid job or saving, starting a business or not committing crimes. Every migrant group to the USA does better than traditional US Blacks. It’s not just every group of Europeans. Everybody wipes their arse with them.

    I exclude sport and entertainment because traditional US Blacks take full advantage in those fields of the complete lack of oppression they’ve enjoyed all their lives. Of course, that has to ignore any oppression thay may have endured from other traditional US Blacks. Nobody can fix that but themselves. They’re the only ones who can fix their political corruption and crime.

    I’m exaggerating because conditions improve for them when the police target black criminals just as Bill and Hillary Clinton demanded. You see that I’m old enough to remember when Whites were accurately accused of racism for having the same police presence in law-abiding white districts as crime-ridden black districts. [email protected]

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @Carroll Price
  169. Neuday: “I think a distinction needs to be made on Christian beliefs now that Christianity has been thoroughly Jewed over the past 50 years …”

    Recall that it was white Christian Americans of the nineteenth century, forerunners of today’s Wokesters, who fought that country’s bloodiest war in order to free the negro and make him a citizen and voter equal to themselves. Christian madness dates from long before fifty years ago.

    Neuday: “I go to Mass every weekend, my household is very Christian, and I have no trouble reconciling HBD with Christianity.”

    The Pope has quite trendy views, I hear. Do you like to kiss the shoes of black men, just as he does? The Pope does this all the time, and he’s just carrying forward a Christian tradition that dates back 2000 years. He loves kissing feet, the stinkier and dirtier the better. You see, self-abasement is a big part of Christian practice. It’s noteworthy that of all the religions of the world, only Christianity enshrines the foot fetish!

    • Thanks: Angharad
  170. The Peul says:
    @northeast

    The entire Western world never needed all this “new blood”.

    I never implied that it did. But now that it has happened, complaining about isn’t going to solve anything. Nor is all sorts of impractical suggestions from White Nationalists (sending blacks back to Africa, deporting all Mexicans, etc). The only remotely possible solutions to racial problems in America that White Nationalists offer is “separation”. But even this is silly: Liberals and Jews (the rulers of the United States) would never allow that to happen.

    • Replies: @northeast
    , @W
  171. JimDandy says:
    @Realist

    My comment was actually an I.Q. test, and you scored very low.

    I’d like to introduce you to a Jewish writer by the name of Unz:

    “We should also remember that Jewish intellectual performance tends to be quite skewed, being exceptionally strong in the verbal subcomponent, much lower in math, and completely mediocre in visuospatial ability; thus, a completely verbal-oriented test such as Wordsum would actually tend to exaggerate Jewish IQ.”

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/

    Looking forward to your hilarious squirming and contortions.

    • Replies: @Realist
  172. @lysias

    That’s awesome! I love Latin and Greek too, studied both in high school. I got a 5 on the Vergil ap exam.

  173. JimDandy says:
    @Days of Broken Arrows

    By that logic, white women are a helluva lot smarter than black women. Or hispanic women, for that matter.

  174. Laugh. This is not rocket science. Examining most of the earth’s civilizations reveals one simple truth

    that the the population that inhabits the lowest rung on the economic ladder will most often reflect the worst or at the lost of the civilizations dysfunctions The pressures that face that population are more intense and result in far more damaging consequences. The only reason that such populations might not exhibit that dynamic is if they accept their lot. Hence the value of whites embracing all things eastern philosophy which is loaded with accept your lot ethos.

    That Dr. Murray or Mr McWhorter seems to have to engage in intellectual gymnastics to comprehend and make that case — juts establishes the overworked minds.

    Note: before whites appeared i the African Continent, the civilizations that resided there lived in relatively peaceful and stable relations with each other and the environment. It did not mean total peace or total nonviolence, but in terms of civilized relations — far ahead of the westerners.

    More than likely it has something to do with the age of those populations

    • LOL: 3g4me
  175. Memejon says:

    There are whites, but the blacks are mixed in the USA mostly. The pushed name African American from the the1960s isn’t accurate.
    So, actual genetic testing could add information to other correlations, I think.

  176. joef says:
    @John Johnson

    We are hostage to Progressive afro fiction.
    And with limousine liberalism being the current fad among Hollywood celebrities,
    the indulgence of apolitical consumers herd mentality (many suburbanites) is to follow them.
    It seems that afro americans enjoy putting their fellow Americans through this endless open ended indefinite racial struggle to scam more & more benefits from the working population.
    Unfortunately there are hard economic limits to this strategy, for its simply is not sustainable in the long term. Some type of conflict will eventually arrive, yet afros & progs cannot see the coming consequences at the end of the trend line (or they stupidly believe they can win, once the return fire starts).

  177. I know no race realist who doesn’t accept the data on IQ differences between whites and Asians

    Before that you’d have to do a better job discriminating between different groups of white/Caucasians and Asians.

  178. Marylou says:
    @JimDandy

    I really don’t know.

    From casual observation, some people study harder, do not waste their time and have very good memories.
    And have pushy parents.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
  179. Anonymous[269] • Disclaimer says:

    One very real historical possibility for negative racial differences for blacks in much of the Western world is to look at how the blacks got here. Mostly imported as slaves so the history books tell us. Such imports would hardly be the best and the brightest, the most imaginative and aggressive. Good, docile, obedient farm animals who could perform the basic forms of labor would likely have been the understood ideal for most of these imports.

    Moreover, those African societies selling slaves would have likely preferred to dump their misfits of all types. It could be that the original source of all these difficulties is an implicit selective breeding program carried out over several centuries by slavers seeking to acquire workers that fit a certain mental and physical profile.

    Of course this is mere speculation, but there may be evidence for it if one cares to look. On the face of it the argument seems plausible and very straightforward. Just how different is the immigration profile for blacks compared to all others who came to the Western Hemisphere?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    , @MarkinLA
  180. mkr says:

    The author said: “I suspect Prof. McWhorter is mentally hobbled by something more than his race. Our climate of racial-moral zealotry doesn’t just punish people who say the wrong thing; it makes them incapable of even thinking the wrong thing”.

    What makes the author declare that the professor has a low IQ (is mentally hobbled)? Because he’s black? If so, that’s a racial generalization, a collectivist judgment upon the individual, which many times turns out to be a false judgment. Perhaps the professor has a higher IQ than the author, which is entirely possible seeing as many blacks have high IQs. Maybe the “race realist” communities climate of racial-moral collectivist zealotry regarding IQ would punish the author if the author were to say the wrong thing by instead of generalizing about race and the individual would instead judge the individual individually; is the author even capable of thinking that many blacks have high IQs and that many blacks have a higher IQ than the author?

    Like language, intelligence is taught to human beings by other human beings, intelligence is not biologically inherent. Now perhaps, and who cares, maybe there are biological racial differences in IQ, but surely culture has the largest impact on anyone’s intelligence, their performance in society, or whether or not they are a criminal. Having a low IQ doesn’t mean that someone is likely to be a criminal, but having a criminal culture does. Many people with high IQs have low EQs (emotional quotient), many people with high IQs make false collectivist judgments upon the individual, many people with high IQs are sociopaths and psychopaths, surely culture is the primary driver behind low EQs, false collective judgments upon the individual, sociopathy, and psychopathy. Culture is the primary driver behind human behavior, not IQ; stupid is as stupid does.

  181. JimDandy says:
    @BorisMay

    Do you that these cultural realities are the result of genetic traits?

  182. Marylou says:
    @Rich

    Those days are past now, and in the past they will remain….

  183. Che Guava says:
    @InnerCynic

    You gravely dishonour the ‘cynic’ part of your handle with such a stupid comment.

  184. Realist says:
    @JimDandy

    My comment was actually an I.Q. test, and you scored very low.

    None of your sophomoric, inane comments would suffice as an IQ test.

    In your haste to post your childish reply…you forgot to answer my questions.

    I’d like to introduce you to a Jewish writer by the name of Unz:

    Ron Unz is purported to have an IQ of 214. Are you saying this is not true? Are you saying his IQ is meaningless?

    Looking forward to your hilarious squirming and contortions.

    • LOL: JimDandy
    • Replies: @JimDandy
    , @JimDandy
  185. @rebel yell

    The paradox is that blacks do better when not around so many other blacks. From that point of view, integration may be a good thing fpr them, and even a good thing for society as a whole, but a bad thing for the whites and others who have to live closest to them.

    • Replies: @Shel100
  186. Marylou says:
    @joef

    And why does the US Post Office no longer ship live chicks?
    (They too often arrived dead).

  187. Skeptikal says:
    @Realist

    I believe Ron Unz has written of the fact that the increase in adminsitration personnel in many universities of whom many are Jewish has resulted in beefing up the number of “legacy” applicants who are Jewish.

    That could give t hem a boost in the acceptance roulette.

    We will have to see what happens when black Americans are heavily represented in university administration (oh, and the teaching staff as well) to see whether that results in more applications from and acceptances of “legacy” applicants.

    • Thanks: JimDandy
  188. JimDandy says:
    @Realist

    Your fallacy-riddled, emotional response did not disappoint! THANK you! Laughter is an instant vacation. Focus, grasshopper. You will not derail the conversation at hand. I made an undeniably true statement: the outrageously disproportionate representation of Jews in the Ivy League is not due to IQ disparities. You can throw all the name-calling tantrums you want–it won’t change this fact, and it won’t stop me from stating it.

    [MORE]

    ***
    there was the case of Becca Jannol, a girl from a very affluent Jewish family near Beverly Hills, who attended the same elite prep school as Julianna, but with her parents paying the full annual tuition. Despite her every possible advantage, including test-prep courses and retaking the exam, her SAT scores were some 240 points lower on the 1600 point scale, placing her toward the bottom of the Wesleyan range, while her application essay focused on the philosophical challenges she encountered when she was suspended for illegal drug use. But she was a great favorite of her prep school counselor, who was an old college friend of the Wesleyan admissions officer, and using his discretion, he stamped her “Admit.” Her dismal academic record then caused this initial decision to be overturned by a unanimous vote of the other members of the full admissions committee, but he refused to give up, and moved heaven and earth to gain her a spot, even offering to rescind the admissions of one or more already selected applicants to create a place for her. Eventually he got her shifted from the Reject category to wait-list status, after which he secretly moved her folder to the very top of the large waiting list pile.90

    In the end “connections” triumphed, and she received admission to Wesleyan, although she turned it down in favor of an offer from more prestigious Cornell, which she had obtained through similar means. But at Cornell, she found herself “miserable,” hating the classes and saying she “didn’t see the usefulness of [her] being there.” However, her poor academic ability proved no hindrance, since the same administrator who had arranged her admission also wrangled her a quick entrance into a special “honors program” he personally ran, containing just 40 of the 3500 students in her year. This exempted her from all academic graduation requirements, apparently including classes or tests, thereby allowing her to spend her four college years mostly traveling around the world while working on a so-called “special project.” After graduation, she eventually took a job at her father’s successful law firm, thereby realizing her obvious potential as a member of America’s ruling Ivy League elite, or in her own words, as being one of “the best of the best.”

  189. mkr says:

    Hundreds of millions of white people worship Yahweh, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost, and believe in Heaven and Hell and a supernatural being called Satan, and other supernatural beings called angels and demons, which to any sane and logical person (things that don’t require a high IQ) is a very stupid thing to do. Why are the high IQ white God worshippers susceptible to delusion, collectivism, false collectivist judgment upon the individual, a propensity to get along to go along with their peers, an inability to judge good and evil properly, scared of the bogeyman, worship the invisible man, are incapable of separating beliefs from observable fact when declaring their beliefs to be the truth, or determine one’s righteousness according to one’s beliefs and not someone’s words and their deeds? Culture! Why are many scientists, doctors, journalists, politicians, military leaders, and other white people susceptible to group-think collectivism when it comes to Covid 19 or the anti-white racist and hateful ideology of “white privilege”? Culture! Regardless of low IQ or high IQ human beings many times do and say stupid things to be accepted by their peers or to collect a paycheck. You don’t need a high IQ to judge people individually instead of collectively, to temper your emotions and to think before you do things, or to realize that the Bible is evil, or to just be yourself in life and to call out the mob as the mob.

    • Replies: @cassandra
  190. mkr says:

    The author said: “Our climate of racial-moral zealotry doesn’t just punish people who say the wrong thing; it makes them incapable of even thinking the wrong thing”.

    So culture trumps IQ.

    Thanks

  191. DrWatson says:
    @Realist

    While Jews on average may have a higher IQ than White gentiles, their overrepresentation in the Ivy League is indeed ridiculous. For once, they are not as much smarter as they are overrepresented, on the other hand there are plenty of smart White people in the US, academically inclined and high IQ to justify such and overrepresentation. Everybody knows that Jews are tribal, avoiding meritocracy when it suits them. Whether God chose them is highly debatable but they certainly choose each other.

    • LOL: Realist
  192. McWhorter lacks a certain level of what I would call intellectual daring or intellectual character. This is independent of his IQ.

    It’s hard to take a purely intellectual view on the topic of race differences, but that’s what we need. It’s not a matter of inferiority or superiority as those are value judgments. For example, are West Africans “superior”because they have explosive speed? What about Asians and spatial intelligence or Whites and creativity?

    I have no problem being honest about my own group’s characteristics – whether or not, as a value judgment, I find them desirable. I don’t like neurotic or pushy people, yet clearly Ashkenazis are, on average, more likely to have these traits. It’s not good or bad. It just is.

    The world could use an intellectually honest Black race realist. Guess we’ll be waiting a while longer.

    All in all I like McWhorter’s work, and the pro-White right should be more focused on building alliances than making enemies.

    • Replies: @Mr Gen
    , @John Johnson
  193. JimDandy says:
    @Realist

    Hahahaha! Exactly as I predicted. Settle down. You’re not going to derail this delightful conversation. I stated the fact that the ridiculously disproportionate overrepresentation of Jews at The Ivy League is not the result of IQ disparities. You flipped out and went completely off the rails, thus reinforcing my theory that certain people dumb themselves down when this subject comes up.

    PS

    I wouldn’t have linked Unz’ article if I didn’t know he’s really smart. I’m glad you agree that he’s really smart. You should read his article. 😉

    Here’s another excerpt:

    “In fact, Harvard’s apparent preference for academically weak Jewish applicants seems to be reflected in their performance once they arrive on campus.”

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Realist
  194. Has Jared ever written about and spoke about the H1B…L1 B Visa Program anywhere? Any radio-tv appearance?

  195. termite says:
    @Montefrío

    What bothers me is justice, or lack of it. Race is just interesting and fascinating.

  196. northeast says:
    @The Peul

    Whites are not going to waste their time delving into the nomenclature of various black and Hispanic tribal aptitudes in the ludicrous effort of trying to string together some kind of multicultural nation.

    This mess will fall apart of its own weight. It might take 10 years or 30 years, but it will end poorly.

    • Replies: @The Peul
  197. @Some Guy

    People had much less resistance to this [race realism] back in the day when people were more Christian.

    Yes, they did have less resistance to it. However, in my experience, every Christian pastor worth your 501c tax deductible contribution to his income thinks the historical or modern practitioners of the Old Time Religion are “bad Christians” and considers his understanding of the Bible to be superior.

    Platinum Rule: Do unto others as they would have you do. No reciprocity required or expected.

    Thus, Dr. Robert Morgan has made an excellent point.

  198. Mr Gen says:
    @Realist

    Ask the question then…

    • Replies: @Realist
  199. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    In my experience, every Christian pastor worth a 501c tax deductible contribution to his income thinks the historical or modern practitioners of the Old Time Religion are “bad Christians” or that his racially egalitarian interpretation of the Bible is superior to that of his ancestors

  200. Mr Gen says:
    @Anonymous Jew

    Too right. McWhorter is quite insufferable – so full of his own self regard. My problem with him is not his smarts, but his balls.

  201. @Mr Gen

    I’ve considered going to church, but apparently not believing in God is a bit of a deal breaker. It’s usually at this point that people think I’m trolling, but I’m being straight up. Individuality is a recipe for extinction when faced by those who see themselves as a collective. I have sympathy for almost all of the christian message. I guess I’ll have to start Athiests for Jesus.

    If you are White and pro-Western society it is more logical to be a fake Christian than an evangelical atheist.

    There is really no gain from outward atheism and atheism as an ideology only feeds the left.

    It makes more sense to join a church and gain the social benefits even if you are skeptical of the beliefs.

    I cannot count how many single and lonely secular Whites I have met. They seem so certain there is no God and yet I am even more certain that they would have a spouse if they had joined the church. Just about every Catholic church has single women and yet these secular Whites prefer to sit at home and mumble to themselves about how they have it all figured out. Yea clearly.

    McWhorter is utterly full of himself. He can’t see that he has a position of supreme privilege, and cannot see that I for one would be cancelled for engaging in the topics that he avoids.

    Similar to what I said which is that he can only skate the edge because is he a mulatto. The universities are filled with mulattoes that while talented are still under the benefit of the liberal egalitarian order which puts them ahead of alpha level Whites. In a real university system he would be teaching English while race would be studied by actual experts. No one would care about his musings on a subject that he really isn’t interested in exploring. The whole system is a fraud as seen by the fact that we are even discussing his opinion. Murray is somewhat of a fraud as well because he doesn’t address the Frankfurt School and seems to pretend that the university system will engage him. Or he knows full well they will ignore him and he is just interested in selling books to outsiders.

    • Agree: Mr Gen
  202. Katrinka says:
    @Goddard

    Universalism is an heretical doctrine in the liberal church which posits that everybody in the end will be saved, whether they believe in Jesus Christ, or not. Everybody will NOT be saved. In fact John 3:16 (one of the best known verses in the Bible) states that “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” Oh….so people are going to perish? Universalism, the doctrine the false teachers and preachers espouse contradicts the Word of God. It is anti-Christian theology at it’s core.

    • Agree: Gapeseed
  203. @Anonymous

    One very real historical possibility for negative racial differences for blacks in much of the Western world is to look at how the blacks got here. Mostly imported as slaves so the history books tell us. Such imports would hardly be the best and the brightest, the most imaginative and aggressive.

    A key problem with this theory is that Bantu countries should have rocketed ahead if the best and brightest stayed home.

    That hasn’t happened.

    If there was a dysgenic trend it was probably caused by welfare from the 1960s to the present. Our genius liberals thought it was a good idea to pay the laziest Black women to have the most children. The other unspoken problem is that women will not pick the ideal mates when they are just trying to get laid. They pick the thug and the offspring will have a mix of the parents traits.

    Good, docile, obedient farm animals who could perform the basic forms of labor would likely have been the understood ideal for most of these imports.

    You are imagining Blacks or Arabs tending to slaves like cattle and selling the unwanted or docile ones to Whites. It didn’t happen that way.

    They would raid Bantu tribes and simply take them by force. There might have been some selective pressure for men that would escape but not women or children. Women don’t normally fight back in any society. They submit to the stronger power. Harsh but true.

    So at the most you would have selective pressure for the men which wouldn’t be enough to change the genetic baseline if you are also taking children.

    It also sounds like you are to trying work on the common assumption that all groups started out with the same mean and something down the line caused inequality. This assumption never made any sense in the context of natural selection. There are tribes in Africa that were never enslaved that score lower on various tests than the Bantu. I honestly wish none of this was true but Africa is called the dark continent for a reason and the results of nature may not fit our ideals. I would look into the works of Albert Schweitzer who started out as a egalitarian until he spent time around Africans. The establishment however hides his reformed views and tries to keep him as an egalitarian figure.
    http://www.renegadetribune.com/albert-schweitzers-warning-to-white-people-in-africa/

  204. Realist says:
    @JimDandy

    I stated the fact that the ridiculously disproportionate overrepresentation of Jews at The Ivy League is not the result of IQ disparities.

    You stated bullshit, without corroboration.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
  205. Realist says:
    @Mr Gen

    Ask the question then…

    I have no question for you. Your intellectual ability, or lack thereof, is of no interest to me.

    • Replies: @Mr Gen
  206. MarkinLA says:
    @Morton's toes

    There have always been aptitude tests for entrance into elite institutions. How can you determine if somebody who wants to study physics can even begin to take the first class unless he has some ability to do higher level math?

    Elite schools are only elite because they admit elite students. How do you propose the schools admit them?

  207. @Anonymous Jew

    It’s hard to take a purely intellectual view on the topic of race differences, but that’s what we need. It’s not a matter of inferiority or superiority as those are value judgments. For example, are West Africans “superior”because they have explosive speed? What about Asians and spatial intelligence or Whites and creativity?

    It seems that very few people can think this way.

    You start talking about racial differences and everyone in the room starts using terms like inferior or superior.

    This doesn’t happen when talking about subspecies of mammals. When comparing barn vs spotted owls we don’t have people interjecting about how one is clearly the superior and we don’t have liberals telling us that such differences don’t exist.

    I honestly wish the liberal method of denial had worked but only a nutcase can look at all the evidence and conclude that lying is still the best policy. Racial differences will need to be discussed because denying the reality of nature has been a total failure. Anyone who lives in denial of this is free to drive to South Chicago and tell me I’m wrong. Visiting one of these areas in person is beyond shocking.

    The world could use an intellectually honest Black race realist. Guess we’ll be waiting a while longer.

    Why would we ever expect that? I don’t fault Blacks for being dishonest about race. Liberal race denial benefits them while racial honesty is an unknown. Mulattoes like McWhorter would have far more competition if society was honest about race. Current America is probably the best of all possible worlds for mulattoes. McWhorter can give his half-assed take on a complex subject and still get a cushy salary. Why would he mess with his meal ticket?

  208. Realist says:
    @JimDandy

    I’m glad you agree that he’s really smart.

    I agreed to nothing. I stated: Ron Unz is purported to have an IQ of 214.

  209. MarkinLA says:
    @Dumbo

    Yes, when everybody knew there were smart and dumb kids and classes the schools were mostly segregated by race. There were mostly white schools in the suburbs. There were mostly Hispanic schools in the barrio section. There were mostly black schools in the inner cities.

    In the suburbs you had a smattering of blacks with maybe 5% Asian and 15% Hispanic in the border areas like Whittier, CA. So even in the dumb track you had over 50% whites. The Hispanics also tended to be Mestizo rather than the Indios we get now.

    So when you had the smart track and the dumb track it wasn’t so easy to see what we have now with a lot more “diversity Now the smart track is noticeably full of Asians and whites and the dumb track is noticeably full of black and Hispanics. See the difference between then and now?

  210. JimDandy says:
    @Realist

    C’mon, Realist. Get real. Take it up with Mr. Unz of the 200+ IQ.

    • Replies: @Realist
  211. JimDandy says:
    @Marylou

    Yeah, I certainly don’t think IQ test results are the only important factor in these kinds of discussions.

  212. MarkinLA says:
    @Anonymous

    That doesn’t explain why they didn’t invent the wheel, had no written language, no mathematics, and no advanced architecture. If you want to say they were happy how they lived and there was no forcing function like you saw in Europe in Asia – kings wanting to build empires and industry and the military always looking for technological improvement that could be an answer. After all, the American plains Indians were sort of in the same situation even though the Maya and Olmecs (later stolen by the Aztecs) did develop writing and math.

  213. ziggurat says:

    Whites have always been told …
    1) You should take no credit for any accomplishments of other whites, including ancestors.
    2) You should accept blame for any wrongdoing of other whites, including ancestors.
    3) You should not feel any greater kinship with white strangers of your own country than with non-white strangers of your own country.

    Blacks have always been told the opposite:
    1) Take credit for what was done by other blacks. Be proud of your race.
    2) Ignore wrongdoings by other blacks or attribute to others.
    3) Your community is your race and your race is your family (e.g., “the black community”, “my black brothers and sisters”).

    Because blacks have been taught to proudly identify with their race, it’s harder for them (than whites) to accept that they are on average lesser than any other race on any important dimension.

    Also, whites are a middle IQ race, with Jews and Asians of higher average level, whereas blacks and latinos are at a lower average level. Yet, blacks are at the bottom. It’s easier to accept if you’re in the middle than if you’re at the bottom. Also, white societies have had so many great accomplishments, whereas black societies are always in need of help.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  214. bayviking says:

    Any discussion of affirmative Action Programs fly in the face of our claims of being a Meritocracy. Of course, everybody knows we aren’t a pure meritocracy, luck, corruption, nepotism and aggressive self promotion frequently trump merit. This is why Trump’s family briefly ran the country and why there are are so many sociopaths in positions of power in Corporations and Government.The CIA and mafia operate in tandem with the same sociopath mindset: secrecy, greed and violence. Not exactly what we claim to stand for.

    The invasion of Iraq was based entirely on lies and illegal by international law. Yet the lying bags of wind and MSM prevailed. The CEO which renamed Datsun to Nissan cost Nissan a billion dollars in sales the first year. Yet, these self promoting incompetent leaders were never held accountable. Its also how Hoffa reached the top of the Teamsters Union. Their only interest is money and power. Nothing else matters. But to hold those positions you must be able to disguise your selfish intentions. But, RFK and some darker forces eventually held Hoffa accountable, so all is not lost, yet.

    Race, a dubious category, should have no basis in the way we are treated under the law, or as individual human beings. Every economy requires more laborers than thinkers to function. Even if intelligence tests are legitimate they have no place in a free and fair society.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  215. Mr Gen says:
    @Realist

    No? Yet you question it just to be a twat, nice.

    • Replies: @Realist
  216. tito says: • Website
    @Barack Obama's secret Unz account

    I greatly admire Jared’s view of Africans, but continue to be baffled by his seeming respect for Hebrews who strike me as analogs to certain viral infections. Jigaboos are ignorant and brutal
    and desperately under-evolved. Jews, far worse, are irrefragably evil and envy and loathe white
    people on account of inherent Aryan superiority.

  217. cassandra says:
    @mkr

    I like your answer to the age-old question, “How can people be so stupid?” (It’s always the other guy!)

    Regardless of low IQ or high IQ human beings many times do and say stupid things to be accepted by their peers or to collect a paycheck.

    But I’d quibble over whether it’s precisely cultural. It’s true that a lot of thinking is cultural, tribal even. Even the most thoughtful of us routinely peerform our actions out of habit, go along with tribal/cultural impressions, and judge the pronouncements of our medicine men, witch doctors and sages as likely. “Mostly true”, as the fact checkers would say.

    The much more reliable guide, critical thinking, as noticed (invented?) by the Greeks, is just too much work for general use.

    As if the effort and time barriers weren’t enough, the Ash Conformity experiment showed that many people will actually veto their own critical thinking purely to follow the tribal thinking of their peers. It’s true that the basis for what you describe is cultural, but it’s supported by a very solid underlying foundation of psychological vulnerability.

    A culture is cognitively healthy to the extent that the tribal consensus agrees with ratiocination. In today’s culture, the 2 are being driven asunder. The rational are being persecuted, and we’re going back to a dark age, after which we’ll have to discover the advantages of critical thinking all over again.

    In the meantime, the oligarchs will enjoy a situation where they can marginalize those pesky folk who don’t just accept but actually think through their propaganda. Tyrants hate critical thinkers, as witnessed by the fates of Socrates, Giordano Bruno and Galileo, to name a few.

    There’s quite the deprogramming job ahead.

  218. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    You are spot on. I am from India and if you look at my post history I have stated it everywhere-the problem with the west today is that they are obsessed with morality and goodwill. The world laughs at this. Nature is amoral-life is a challenge. Nature is above and beyond any scripture or idol. The white man became great because of his rationality. Because he implemented the rational element and created cities and space ships and great literature. This is why democracy will never work. The great German author Oswald Spengler states that the next step to democracy is Caeserism or a benevolent dictator with a hard fist rule. This is what is needed. Not religious mumbo jumbo. You explained this so well-I thank you. And these moron posters claw back at me stating I am a Hindu spy, a pagan worshipper. I say fuck all religion-ban them from the public. We are all agnostic-we don’t know shit. And Christianity is the reason the west is in the soup it’s in. Nothing else.

    • Agree: acementhead
  219. Rosie says:
    @John Johnson

    Secular utilitarianism has already been tried in Sweden and it completely failed.

    It has certainly failed to stave off multiculturalism, but it has achieved some success in regards to the greatest good for the greatest number if this map is to be believed:

    But, as you say, it doesn’t matter because they’re pissing it all away for “diversity.”

    Boys in some schools were forced to pee sitting down for the sake of fairness

    WTH? I can honestly say I almost never think about the fact that I can’t pee standing up, except when I’m camping. Fortunately, there are much better ways of resolving this than forcing men to share our misery.

    Behold…

  220. Rosie says:
    @Donald A Thomson

    That strikes me as a form of cheating.

    More than that, it seems like a spiteful program of humiliating Whitey in his own country.

  221. Rosie says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    What makes you think it’s up to me to “replace” Christianity?

    It is in your nature to do so. You have replaced Christianity, with this:

    Don’t love your enemy, destroy him. The various races are in competition with each other. Life itself is a war of all against all. Nobody has any duty to “humanity”, and any alliances with others in life’s struggles are conditional and usually temporary. That’s just the way it is.

    When it comes to the meaning of life, true nothingness cannot exist. Even your nothingness is something, and it is quite as ghoulish as I imagined. Your quarrel is not with Christianity, but with the very concept of morality of any sort. Your constant harping on Christianity is, therefore, dishonest.

  222. Jiminy says:
    @Morton's toes

    I think you’ve got something there, to throw out the iq test could ease a lot of tensions. Parents don’t really want to know how thick their kid is. It’s apparent, they live with them, they know.
    How about instead of intelligence testing, maybe a twerking challenge. Or time how quickly the participant can reload a pistol. Or the best beat-boxer. If a young maiden has made it to adulthood without having a family, then surely she must be a keeper.
    Maybe it’s time to think outside the box. And besides, why can’t intelligence be outsourced like just about everything else in the US. Pack it all up and off-shore it.

    • LOL: MarkinLA
  223. RodW says:

    I love McWhorter’s air piano. I think he’s playing “Honeysuckle Rose” in that photo.

  224. Shel100 says:
    @Henry's Cat

    That’s it in a nutshell.They benefit from being around us but we don’t benefit from being around them at all.

  225. Instead of opposing Critical Race Theory or CRT, we should embrace it and make it our own.

    If CRT wants to teach about the history of white ‘racism’, fine. White people did have the power and used it to their advantage at the expense of others.

    But there is more to racial politics than the white stuff. This way, CRT can become SCRT or Self-Critical Race Theory.

    Following should be added to CRT.

    1. Jewishness. Jews believe in a supremacist identity of Chosen-ness. Jews believe they have a special Covenant with God, and some Jews interpret this as Jews being above the law. This explains why Jews work together to free Jewish crooks from jail. What are presidential pardons but the game of ‘release crooked Jews’? Jews use ADL to suppress other races and BDS, a movement for Palestinian justice. Jews use power to instigate wars for Israel. Jewish hostility has led to countless deaths around the world. Jews played a key role in communism. Via Jewishness Studies, Critical Race Theory can also be Self-Critical Race Theory. In other words, CRT isn’t really critical or honest. It is really something concocted by Jews to guilt-bait whites about blacks to make morally paralyzed whites serve Jewish supremacists. So, CRT needs to understand its origins. It’s not a neutal and rational theory of justice but a Jewish racial weapon to perpetuate their own supremacism.

    2. Blackness. Self-Critical Race Theory must address the issue of BAMMAMA or Blacks Are More Muscular and More Aggressive. This explains why blacks are the main thugs and criminals in the US. Race is real, and racial differences owe to evolution. Blacks evolved to be hunters and warriors alongside hippos and elephants who wanted to stomp them for being a bunch of spear-chucking jivers. So, blacks got wilder, tougher, and crazier. This is why blacks victimize so many innocents. This is why so many classrooms have been rendered useless. Crazy black behavior.

    3. Brownness. Self-Critical Race Theory must oppose the category of ‘Latino’ or ‘Hispanic’. That label should only apply to whites or people who are substantially white. Calling brown indigenous folks of Central and South America ‘Latino’ is an insult. Why should they be called ‘Latino’ because they were colonized by Spanish and Portuguese? Following that logic, Filipinos should be called Latino too. And Asian Indians should be called ‘Anglo’ for having been ruled by Brits(and because they speak English). Instead of regarding Latino whites and browns as one people, we need to see browns as historic victims of Latin whites who are a bunch of lowlife weasels posturing as ‘people of color’ when they are European in origin. These slimeballs pretend to be ‘brown’ and blame it all on Gringo or Yanqui. These Latin whites need to be named, and browns need to be goaded into bringing back Aztec human sacrifice to offer them to the gods.

    4. Yellowness. SCRT must take a wary look at yellows. Being dog-like and servile, yellows are natural servitors of whatever hogs the most power and prestige. The only value and alliance of yellows is servile loyalty to the power. So, to assess if yellows are your friends or enemies, just do a simple test. Ask, ‘who has the power and most prestige?’ Jews do, and homos are big in elite circles. Well, there you go. Yellows are doglike servitors of Jewish supremacist power and globo-homo nuttery.

    5. Hindu-ness. Though labeled as ‘Asian’, Hindus are different from yellows. In one way, they are a bunch of gypsy-like lowlife weasels who will pull any dirty trick to make a buck, or even a penny. Because India is such a messed up place and because Hindus have been driven half-crazy as diaspora struggling to make a buck all around the world, they are plenty nuts. And this means hindus take out all the shit on whoever happens to be nice enough to hear their complaints. In Africa, blacks tell Hindus ‘suck my dic*’. China amasses 50,000 troops against India. Jews don’t take no shit from anyone. Blacks are wild and crazy. So, that means only whites are dumb enough to hear out the Hindus. So, finally all the Hindu frustrations come bursting out at weak nice whitey. No wonder Hindus dump all their neurosis and problems on whitey.

    Via SCRT, we can learn so much about humanity.

    So, don’t say NO to CRT. Expand it to SCRT.

  226. @ziggurat

    Also, whites are a middle IQ race, with Jews and Asians of higher average level, whereas blacks and latinos are at a lower average level.

    A middle IQ race?

    The White male mean is equal to the combined Asian Male/Female.

    American Jews on a DNA level are mostly Eastern European. That is no longer debatable (Jews denied this before DNA tests) so you really talking about Jewish/Slav hybrids and not a unified race.

    I’m also not convinced that IQ is everything when Asians are interested in moving to White societies far more than the reverse. The vast majority of patents are still filed in White countries while Asians tend to copy White technologies and then take them to unhealthy cultural extremes (China using smartphones to track its citizens or Japanese sex bots for lonely men).

    Intelligence is more complicated than a single spectrum.

    I also don’t see this as a means of undermining the left when they could just flip the narrative and argue that Whites should support affirmative action and excessive income taxes to make up for the deficit. They could switch to the position that Africans and Europeans are the same in every way except this one area. I don’t for one second believe that is true. I used to live near a home for mentally impaired adults and they were harmless. I also went to college with the “talented tenth” and even though they could undoubtedly outscore the impaired White adults they really didn’t see anything wrong with blasting everyone with their ghetto music or yelling at the top of their lungs during lunch.

    Blacks often lack certain social sensitivities that can be seen in children with down’s syndrome. The men commonly have a desire to flaunt and strut which can be very tiring. They will mad dog everyone and look to start fights over the dumbest reasons. It’s quite common in Black areas to see flashy cars with 10k paint jobs and 8k rims. It’s absurd to suggest that low IQ Whites act in the same manner. To believe everything is a matter of a single intelligence spectrum requires living away from Blacks. Murray should move to Baltimore for a year and then get back to us.

    • Agree: ziggurat
  227. Chinaman says:

    Anyone who thinks for a living — and I imagine that’s what Prof. McWhorter fancies himself — must accept data, no matter how disagreeable, if he can find no fault with them. Anything less is cowardice or bad faith.

    Our host, Ron Unz needs to take heed to this. He is the most intellectually dishonest writer on this site and blatantly
    ignores evidences that doesn’t fit his theory.

  228. Rosie: “You have replaced Christianity …”

    On the contrary, I’ve described reality, which YOU would like to replace with Christian fantasy. More and more people are coming to this realization too, and only if they ever became a majority could we say that Christianity has been replaced. However, it’s not necessary for that to happen at all. Only a select few may ever appreciate the truth and act accordingly. The mass of people simply aren’t cut out for it. They are sheep like you. But we have entered a technological age in which a small cell of dedicated revolutionaries, or even a single genius acting alone may be able to set fire to the entire world. Such an action will send the empire of lies based on your fictitious “brotherhood of man” crashing down in a heap.

    Rosie: “Your quarrel is not with Christianity, but with the very concept of morality of any sort. ”

    Peddlers of lies such as you are in no position to lecture anyone about morality. Discussing morality with a Christian is like talking about romantic love with a whore. What do they know about it? LOL. Not much.

  229. @Corvinus

    The jury delivered its verdict over 30 years ago n it’s been upheld on appeal n at the supreme court of genetics research. You must have been on break, a veery long break.

  230. Miro23 says:

    Anyone who thinks for a living — and I imagine that’s what Prof. McWhorter fancies himself — must accept data, no matter how disagreeable, if he can find no fault with them. Anything less is cowardice or bad faith.

    Problem that there are some data points that support McWhorter. For example, taking blacks in the West. Those born in Africa score better on intelligence and all social indicators than those born in places like the US and the UK – suggesting some environmental factors (like the MSM spending decades pushing the worst aspects of black culture).

    Also prior to the Age of radicalization and Counter-Culture, a much higher proportion of blacks had stable marriages, useful employment, and were basically “respectable”.

    He worries about Critical Race Theory and the progressives’ grim “duty of identifying racism wherever they can find it.” He realizes that “woke” mobs are taking over institutions and “the alt-right” isn’t, and that there’s something wrong when people seriously claim that music theory is “white supremacist.”

    These progressive BLM and Antifa mobs are the children of white middle class Boomer parents. The parents in question are probably looking on with approval as they beat up “squares” in the streets, shout down dissent, smash up property and burn the US flag. We did the same!!

  231. @Johnny Hooker

    The government provides incentives to have degenerate black society. People seem fairly intelligent that read Unz, but they miss the government pushing chaos within the black ghettos to smash the whites with National laws.

  232. Pheasant says:
    @obwandiyag

    ‘Competence” is a canard. Most jobs can be done by a monkey.’

    Thank goodness.

    You have no reason to ever be unemployed.

    • LOL: Happy Tapir
  233. Pheasant says:
    @termite

    ‘It is strange that black Africans have thriving civilisations from ancient Egyptian times to recent colonial period if their IQ are so inferior as compared to the white race’

    Lol

    What a moron.

  234. @schnellandine

    Jared Taylor has said he knows about the Jews, he just doesn’t need more enemies, it’s hard enough going as.it is.

    • Replies: @Truth
  235. Some Guy says:
    @DanFromCT

    Are you suggesting those brave enough to make a case naming the Jews are engaging in just so much “talk”?

    No, I’m saying that one additional person/site doing that is probably not going to make a difference since those guys already exist. All it would do is marginalize Mr. Taylor further.

    A lot of people seem to be suggesting that those brave enough to make a case for white nationalism but who don’t talk about Jews are engaging in just so much “talk”.

  236. “You have no reason to ever be unemployed.”

    Laugh.

    Speaking of not living in the real world. Things happen that are well out of one’s control or doing.

  237. Truth says:
    @The Cruncher

    So he lies and makes a pussy of himself?

    • Thanks: Angharad
    • Replies: @Radio
  238. Josh Kenn says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Intelligence is not an absolutely superior trait. I think people who are intelligent enough can see that.

    The significant implications are behavioral based, not performance. There is not a sub-species alive that does not have heritable behavioral traits. That is just how nervous systems have to be. They facilitate the integration of the entire organism. Anything you see on the outside is going to have implications on the inside.

    That is not an argument for any phenotype-based pseudoscience, because it will likely never be possible to quantify any of it.

    People in the past may have been technologically inferior, but that doesn’t mean their interior and social landscapes were inferior. All empirical evidence supports the Bible’s view that the nations should not mix. If we were animals, the same liberals pushing diversity would be shocked and outraged if someone tried to indiscriminately mix up all the populations.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  239. MarkinLA says:
    @bayviking

    Even if intelligence tests are legitimate they have no place in a free and fair society.

    Except they have a very high correlation with how well someone will do in academic pursuits. Think of it as an aptitude test for academic work. Every business used to have specific aptitude tests until the SCOTUS decided they were racist.

    How fair is it to anybody. the teacher and other students, to have people so deficient in basic mathematical talent in the calculus class holding everybody else back?

    How would you determine who society is going to spend it’s resources on to develop their talents. Even at private institutions, government grants pay for a large part of the students development.

    • Replies: @bayviking
  240. MarkinLA says:
    @obwandiyag

    Yes but the problem for blacks is employers would rather have happy conscientious monkeys rather than surly lazy ones.

  241. @Robert Dolan

    I don’t own any of McWhorter’s books, but back in the day I often read his New Republic columns and I watched quite a bit of him and Glenn Loury sparring on bloggingheads. While I’m not dismissing John as a dumb gorilla, I’m mystified by how many center-right types seem to think he’s some kind of brilliant and fundamentally honest thinker.

    His scholarly “distinction” is writing one or two “serious” books in linguistics (of which he once bragged to Glenn that he had to “sweat blood” to write them) which in no way made some revolutionary contribution to the field. The bulk of his writing is pop linguistics, pop culture commentary, and a mishmash of bloviating that, while it occasionally throws a little centrist bait out, often lurches into girlish emotive leftist hysterics (as when he flummoxed Glenn with his passionate assertion that he categorically “knows” that Kavanaugh is a “rapist”).

    Heck, he even out-gatekept Jordan Peterson by giving a minutes-long rambling “question” at a Columbia lyceum on transgender crap.

    In the same bloggingheads about the Kavanaugh controversy, he also congratulated Glenn on his recent vacation in France: “Glenn, isn’t it wonderful to go someplace where you’re treated like an actual HUMAN BEING?”

    So John McWhorter, with all his tenure, his celebrity, his media gigs, doesn’t even feel like he’s treated like a “human being” in America. I really wonder what John McWhorter all these people who think he’s Their Guy and an Authentic Black Genius are reading.

    • Agree: 3g4me
  242. Angharad says:
    @Tom F.

    I am sorry, Tom F. So many Whites – far too many Whites – are going to be forced to learn the VERY hard way. Those other Races, in your family’s neighborhood, will protect your feckless relatives from every experiencing the Vibrant Diversifying of Negroes.

    Do tell them their are plenty of Congoid places to move to. Tell them to GO.

  243. Angharad says:
    @schnellandine

    Thank you for recognizing the treacherous, malicious Honey Pot that JT Inc is. In alleged WN circles, criticizing and/or pointing out unpleasant facts about JT is heresy, worthy of burning at the stake.

  244. Angharad says:
    @DanFromCT

    Thank you! I’ve bene reading down the comments, to check out the “lay of the land”. There are so many dupes in WN circles, that WORSHIP Taylor and AR. Where-as there is loads of worthy data, in the AR cannon, Taylor’s refusal to discuss the absolute bedrock source of the Negro Mayhem that’s been unleashed on once-White America boils down to the WORST betrayal of Whites in the world. Your comment provides the best analysis of Taylor’s sins on this article. Bless you. You are gentleman, an excellent scholar, and a very good, honest man.

  245. Radio [AKA "Grace"] says:
    @Robert Dolan

    This attitude is precisely why race and IQ has been kept from the mainstream; when it eventually does reach public conciousness, it will give otherwise plain people unwarrented superiority complexes over others who’ve accomplished things despite being from a historically unsucessful group.

    It will be used to dehumanize even highly intelligent and qualified people based on factors they cannot control.

    Low worth in the market automatically amounts to inferior in the eyes of most, and if the likes of Charles Murray and Jared Taylor were perfectly honest, they probably sympathize with that worldview to an extent

    Therefore telling people that their tendenies to dehumanize others have a valid basis in science will rip societies fabric apart almost immediately. Giving cruel people an excuse to be cruel is particularly unwise. America is closer to an Irish Troubles period that many here would like to admit. Rhetoric about genetic inferiority would be like napalm at at time like this

  246. Radio [AKA "You\'re wrong"] says:
    @Truth

    Taylor is no weakling and you know it. You’d extremely unwise to pursue a career in politics of any sorts in America or western Europe while making comments about Jewish people

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Truth
  247. White people love their tests. It is possible that there are differences in different types of skills between ethnic groups. Whites have particular creativity deficiencies. They need Jews to tell them how to live, believe, and think. Their inability to be creative showed up in their inability to create early sophisticated civilizations that had writing. They need to be shown the way. This is why they are being destroyed. Asians are capable of creating their own meaning and outdo whites in skills requiring rote memorization. The low sophistication of the news media is designed for a socially low intelligent rabble that lives in the moment like a dog paralyzed by its conditioning.

    Whites need black people to inspire them musically. Whites created classical. Blacks created Jazz. Does this mean whites rely on rote memorization while blacks excel at improvisation? I never tried to teach a black person until their mind blue screened like Windows. I am not aware of anyone engaging in such an endeavor. Charles Murray’s “truth” needs testing through gene therapy too. Stupidity is a problem only transhumanism could possibly solve. Why does it matter since most people are going to be replaced by AI and automation? Even the mighty hyper intelligent Asians will be made redundant according to the hype. Black people can entertain us by creating new music and athleticism if nothing else despite Murray being right or wrong.

    • LOL: 3g4me
    • Replies: @John Johnson
  248. Realist says:
    @Mr Gen

    No? Yet you question it just to be a twat, nice.

    You are adroit at talking out of your ass. What is the it I am questioning???

    I have absolutely no interest in anything about you.

  249. Realist says:
    @JimDandy

    C’mon, Realist. Get real. Take it up with Mr. Unz of the 200+ IQ.

    If you question his IQ you take it up with him.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
  250. geokat62 says:
    @Radio

    Rhetoric about genetic inferiority would be like napalm at at time like this

    Truth to told, rhetoric about genetic equality is like a depleted uranium device going off at a time like this.

    Pick your poison, goy.

  251. geokat62 says:
    @Radio

    You’d extremely unwise to pursue a career in politics of any sorts in America or western Europe while making comments about Jewish people

    Career? Our homelands are being destroyed… and you’re kvetching about careers?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  252. Truth says:
    @Radio

    Basically, the poster above said that Taylor knows that there is, one would assume, a major portion to discuss of the problem that he chosen as his cause celebre , and that he is afraid to adress it, what would you call him?

  253. Yawrate says:

    Would a distribution of white intelligence with the same mean and SD as blacks create similar crime rates as blacks?

    How do we know the crime rate of blacks is not a function of their distributed intelligence?

    I’m asking because I’ve often heard the saying that criminals are stupid.

    There are plenty of stupid white people out there.

  254. @Priss Factor

    ” White girls at Ivy Leagues routinely put out to Negroes(many from Africa), and white boy cucks celebrate this as ‘progress’.”

    That coal ain’t gonna burn itself.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    , @Truth
  255. @Josh Kenn

    If we were animals, the same liberals pushing diversity would be shocked and outraged if someone tried to indiscriminately mix up all the populations.

    This is a really good point.

    Liberals would be aghast if someone proposed taking various subspecies of wolves and mixing them all to get rid of their differences, all the while declaring that such differences either don’t exist or are insignificant.

  256. @Johnny F. Ive

    Whites have particular creativity deficiencies. They need Jews to tell them how to live, believe, and think.

    What a load of garbage.

    It was the Romans and Greeks that created Western (read modern) society, not the Jews. In fact the Romans kicked out the Jews after getting frustrated with them. That created a chain of events that we are still sorting through today.

    Iceland doesn’t have Jews and they are lauded by liberals as the model nation for the rest of the world

    Whites need black people to inspire them musically. Whites created classical. Blacks created Jazz.

    Was Jazz created out of ether? Everyone seems to forget about folk music when discussing Black contributions. It didn’t go from Mozart to Joplin.

    Black people can entertain us by creating new music and athleticism if nothing else despite Murray being right or wrong.

    And destroy cities and rack up a trillion in debt trying to turn them into Europeans. Kind of left that out.

    You take the races are different but provide us with different products view which is the last defense of the egalitarian. It is better than the race denying leftist position but still leaves huge questions unanswered. Like why would Blacks want to live under the shadow of Whites and what to do about egalitarians that are uncomfortable with inequality even if they accept it as natural?

    But I’m fine with anyone promoting that position because it won’t work. Whites will not go with the program if they find out that race exists. White people today are allowing billions of their wealth to go to federal and state governments under the assumption that race is fixable. Take that away and you would have a rebellion on your hands. Murray seems to realize this and pathetically sides with the establishment. He seems to think they would be better off telling the truth but that isn’t going to happen.

    • Replies: @Johnny F. Ive
  257. @mkr

    You clearly fail to understand a simple I.Q. distribution curve and its implications.
    Stop talking about I.Q.; you don’t have the chops.

    • Agree: acementhead
    • Replies: @mkr
  258. @Donald A Thomson

    There’s also considerable variation between African groups and why wouldn’t that apply to intelligence as well as physical attributes?

    Intelligence of native Africans depends almost entirely on the percentage of Arabic blood in their veins. Causing northwest Africans to be (on average) more intelligent (but no less violent) than Africans on the west coast,of Africa where practically all blacks in the western world came as slaves.

    An excellent book on African slavery is: American Negro Slavery by Ulrich Phillips (Louisiana State University Press, copyright 1918)

    • Replies: @Truth
  259. @geokat62

    Career? Our homelands are being destroyed… and you’re kvetching about careers?

    I really don’t think that bringing up the Jews in any context will help with anything.

    Mainstream America believes that Hitler went after the Jews for not being Christian. That of course isn’t true by Hitler’s own words but that is what they are taught in the schools and media. Hitler in fact planned on eventually getting rid of Christianity.

    So you start talking about Jews and most Americans will immediately think Hitler.

    Then you would have to explain that you are talking about secular Jews and not religious Jews.

    But most importantly even if you got rid of secular Jews there would be an endless supply non-Jewish egalitarian Whites willing to take their place. The social sciences were at one point heavily Jewish at the top but today they are heavily White female and mulatto. The “soft sciences” of academia (left-wing think tanks) are controlled by White liberal women. They are the guardians of race denial and they wouldn’t give a damn if you removed Jewish influence. They hate you all and would happily put you on trains to maintain the status quo. Many of you need to spend time around non-Jewish liberals. They don’t want race to exist and will do anything to maintain the lie. It is absolutely soul crushing to them that nature doesn’t exist as they want and they would gleefully take out this frustration on White men. In fact they deeply resent White men for being the only group that challenges the status quo.

    So yes there is too much focus on the Jews and from a strategic position it doesn’t make sense to bring them up.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  260. @John Johnson

    African slavery was a very strange dynamic.
    Not only were they subject to raids by other Bantus and Muslim slavers but they also turned on each other. It is estimated 1 in 5 slaves were created by personal betrayal: friends and family.
    Correct. They literally sold each other out for x pieces of slavery. Pretty stupid behaviour in my book. I don’t think a modern westerner can understand how much of a betrayal of tribe and family this entailed but imagine the way a modern Han Chinaman would react if told this historical fact. The Chinese are well know for their lack of respect for africans and blax in general.
    I have to say I agree. I have watched for decades as these untalented boobs have pranced around chanting to themselves mantras about how evil ‘whitey’as and deluding themselves about wakanda. It will all end in the future, most likely in a hail of lead.

  261. @Generalfeldmarschall von Hindenburg

    Ivy League liberal women are not putting out for African students. That is absurd. I’m sure it has happened but there is not some movement by educated White women to bang away the Black genes.

    Upper-middle class White women are all waiting for a White man that doesn’t exist. They all think an Atticus Finch is out there for them. They become cat moms before they take a Black boyfriend.

    I have been around these women. They think race mixing is great but leave it to someone else.

    Liberal White women might believe in blank slate but their subconscious doesn’t believe in it.

    I went to an event that was packed with urban liberal couples and only two had a Black husband.

    They marry boring White engineers and force them to take them to Hamilton. That is the closest they get to Blacks.

    Educated liberals are completely full of sh-t. The White women that sleep with Blacks tend to be poor or working class.

  262. Polemos says:
    @Tom F.

    If he admits that he is an outlier to the upside, then he has identified himself as a Narcissistic Sociopath.

    Why is that the case? Are you being serious or having fun?

  263. Truth says:
    @Generalfeldmarschall von Hindenburg

    ” White girls at Ivy Leagues routinely put out to Negroes(many from Africa), and white boy cucks celebrate this as ‘progress’.”

    Well, the first half I agree with, the second half, well, it’s a little more complicated..

    https://worldstar.com/video.php?v=wshh319G190Gtm7QO9KX

  264. Truth says:
    @Carroll Price

    No, no Old Sport, Ethiopians routinely have some of the lowest IQ scores on the continent.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  265. JimDandy says:
    @Realist

    I don’t question it, or care. You’re embarrassing yourself.

    • LOL: Realist
  266. Polemos says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    In brief, the answer to Taylor’s implied question, “Why can’t people face the truth?”, is that they are born liars, shaped by evolution to be so. They enjoy telling lies, even to themselves, and they also enjoy telling lies to others as a way of manipulating them. They have been lying to themselves and to others since the dawn of time, but deception as a battle tactic really only came into its own with the advent of Christianity.

    It seems you’re doing what animalogic earlier noticed, in response to your comment, about CRT: “CRT, with its systemic (indeed a priori) white racism is parallel to the Christian’s ‘original sin’.”

    How is your myth here different from the Christian conception of “original sin” insofar as people are “born liars, shaped by evolution to be so” who not only enjoy their lies but “have been lying to themselves and to others since the dawn of time?” Since the dawn of time? Is that an accurate and epistemologically warranted statement you’re making, or are you being hyperbolic to make a rhetorical point —and thus, not being factual, but instead being a liar? How could you even establish from an empirical perspective your framing that time has a dawn? Where’s its Sun?

    I mean, if you are also a product, with the other people, of these evolutionary forces, then you are also lying to us and delighting in crafting a particular kind of lie to manipulate yourself and us your audience. Any person competent enough to understand how narrative and persuasion works notices that you are crafting your speeches and framing your points (referring to Triteleia Laxa as lying scum rather than “fellow commentator” for example, or saying TL is speaking an “absolute inversion of the truth”, as if you objectively stood apart from the truth enough to know what’s above it or below it), and maybe we’d pass it off as part of what occurs in people having conversations where we bend the truth, use metaphors to condense meanings, speak in riddles or tell jokes to effect subtle changes in conceptual admission, use metrical qualities of writing and reading to motivate in consciousness assigning and seeming —but you are telling us a story of the past and performing your own work of mythopoesis, giving us a history of the human race and likewise framing it as a battle where people war upon one another using strategies: isn’t evolution strictly about differential distributions of alleles among organism populations, so how did it become a war with battles and strategies and weapons? What a story you could tell! (And here’s a story one tells about that story)

    It became that way because you crafted a lie you could accept, a myth justifying hostility and animus and aggression, and particularly your own hostility to your own perceived enemies —of all the mental conceptual frameworks humans occupy as their expression of consciousness, you not only choose to war against religion but a particular generalized version of it that you call Christianity, and it’s not difficult for others to notice how repetitive, obsessive, and encompassed you are by that hostility and aggression —and we can see that you have no problem attempting to solicit others in helping you struggle against it. After all, your universalizing myth captures all of us and makes us all either accomplices or lying scum (is this Mos Eisley?) in your intergenerational, interspecies War —we either accept Darwinian reality or we fancifully lie but we are all evolved.

    So when you write, “Indeed, as a liar, you are such a virtuoso you can’t resist lying even to yourself about the nature of reality,” recognize that you, being a human who thinks of his own humanity as an evolutionary product within a particular narrative, are more talking about yourself and what you see in your mind’s mirror than about Triteleia Laxa and the much larger masses of people you call them and they. They are all your own issues, and insofar as they all have the issues you see more readily among them, you have those issues at work in your own self-conception and goal of self-transcendence.

    What is odd, to me, is that you have made it a point to say that people prone to think there are conspiracies out there with masterminds and puppeteers (their Them and They) are agents of their own lazy self-destruction because they are unwilling and unable to overcome their unacknowledged impotency and faults and thus need to cast blame to those more powerful others, when what they ought to do is challenge themselves and take personal responsibility for their failures. Yet here you are, and often there you are, saying again that it is Christianity to blame for the pervasive perversion of persistent presumption towards deception, lying, and fraud, such that with this or that commentator you easily diagnose as lying scum inverting the truth with a lie —language one finds in Christianity itself:

    Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever!

    You’re just riffing on Paul, Dr. Robert Morgan, articulating the same formal argument that the liars having exchanged the truth for a lie enjoy their lying, delight in their lying, and thus dominate whatever other truth-telling species there are and dishonor their genetic lineage through cultural subversion and sexual miscegenation.

    So when Rosie asks you a very simple sort of question —Okay, say you’re right, how then should we live?— your response is an evasive chuckle with a dismissive analogy that surgeons only remove the cancers but needn’t heal the sick to perform surgery. You’re lying. You have values. You have behaviors. You have actions that flow from thoughts and thoughts that flow from actions. Your genes demand acids and you generate proteins and you assemble letters and you create comments. You have goals both long-term and short. Pretending as though none of this is relevant to the question is a form of deception, given how Christianity is something you have chosen to signal as adversary to your values, you have chosen to act against by writing about it, when if your own myth about our evolutionary struggle of all against all is true, then you are engaging in active warfare on behalf of parties or sides or selves whom you hide from us, keep secret from us, and wave us away from like a magician with words as his handkerchiefs. And you chuckle.

    You are the liar. You will continue to lie, because, as you have told us, it’s part of a war unfolding all around us that has produced us and keeps us enthralled through self-deception to its underlying machinery, what keeps this war machine breeding liar after liar, comment after comment.

    Someone might point out, of course, that there are certain groups of people who are the People of the Lie, who do use lying as a form of war. Hmm. Given you are also lying and pretend to not be a liar, perhaps you are one of them, too?

    Nah, couldn’t be, right? I mean, their enemy is your enemy, and the enemy of your enemy is no one’s friend —destroy them, you say, but alone.

    Also, you’re smart. So you must know that we Click Reply to make it easier for others to notice when responding to them, unless that, too, is part of The Strategem to strike unawares upon others.

  267. @John Johnson

    The Romans and Greeks did create Western science, philosophy, and pioneered republican and democratic forms of government found in modern society, but the Jews created the culture and religion. Romans and Greeks created the machinery that the Jews and their copyist/servants run.

    Iceland’s soul was sold to the Jews.
    “Religion in Iceland has been predominantly Christian since the adoption of Christianity as the state religion by the Althing under the influence of Olaf Tryggvason, the king of Norway, in 999/1000 CE.”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Iceland

    There does seem to be differences between races. Jews are great at staying unified, are education oriented, and their malignant Abrahamic cancer took hold of 3/4 of the Earth. Quite an achievement. They not only conquered weak minded uncivilized Western Europeans and Arabs, but brought down former high brow civilizations along with them (Egyptians, Romans, Greeks, and Iranians). Whites just copied and ate the slop the Jews served them just like they have done with African American music. Teach a white to oppress his people and he gleefully obliges. Whites chained other whites into hierarchies and enforced Christianity. Now it is Critical Race Theory. A lack of dominant ethnoreligions will be the end of all European ethnic groups.

    I don’t know how capable African Americans are because test obsessed whites use credentials to keep them from decent jobs. Trillions of dollars of student debt is the result of the white’s testing obsession. White males are under-performing and aren’t getting college degrees either. They don’t take to the white woman oriented education system either. Are they inferior to white women and Asians or is it something else? I’m not sure if the issue is race. Maybe they are resisting being forced to do something they don’t want to do. Michael Lind thinks employers should pay for training. People would end up positioned based on actual performance which count$ in real life. An AI will evaluate them and decide their fate if there are any jobs for them.

    My position is nihilistic. No matter how smart most people are, they are going to be part of the “useless class.” Black people have the capacity to improvise new types of music. They can entertain themselves and the rest of us. White people were great fine artist at one time. Amateurs are still great. Now it is a mystery to figure out if a child or a credentialed modern artistic master did a piece of art. Modern white architecture like modern white fine art is grotesque rebellion against Greek and Roman art. A white revolt against Greco-Roman beauty aesthetics. Next is language and mathematics. It is mostly about the white rulers. They can feel good about themselves for lowering standards and letting every special snowflake get their gold star in order to shut them up. Besides AI is going to be doing that stuff instead. It will be irrelevant if certain races are intelligent or not because AI can do math faster. There are even websites that offer services that can take a differential equation and spit out an answer instantly for free.

    • Replies: @epochehusserl
  268. The Romans and Greeks did create Western science, philosophy, and pioneered republican and democratic forms of government found in modern society, but the Jews created the culture and religion.

    Which culture would that be? The Jews showed up in Europe when European culture already existed.

    Yes they are founders of religion. But you said Whites need to them for thinking which is absurd. The Jewish contributions to science and culture only occurred after they bred with intelligent slavs.

    Iceland’s soul was sold to the Jews.

    Modern Iceland has around 250 Jews. So no.

    I don’t know how capable African Americans are because test obsessed whites use credentials to keep them from decent jobs.

    Totally ridiculous. African Americans have access to jobs their “White free” brethren in Africa can only dream of. In my profession the corps are obsessed with finding qualified Blacks and they will overpay them.

    The idea that White people are conspiring to keep them out of good jobs is ridiculous. I know people in just about every industry and the story is the same. The big corps hire underqualified Blacks to keep the Feds off their back and show that they value diversity.

    There is however a problem with a lack of family wage jobs in Black areas for high school drop outs and felons. That is a legitimate concern. I’m not a free market evangelist and expecting everyone to go to college is unrealistic. I also don’t think poor Blacks or Whites should be told “oh well” and admonished for not getting a tech degree. That is faulty conservative thinking.

    White males are under-performing and aren’t getting college degrees either. They don’t take to the white woman oriented education system either. Are they inferior to white women and Asians or is it something else?

    White women are going to college and getting useless White guilt degrees (social sciences, humanities, bitter group studies) at greater rates than White men. That is what is happening. White men still go into the trades more than women.

    It is true that White men are underperforming. This shouldn’t be a surprise since they are loaded up with egalitarian gobbly gook by both liberals and Christians from a young age. White boys are told in elementary school that they come from a line of oppressors that ruined Wakanda.

    I don’t use terms like inferior or superior. There are racial differences from geographic isolation and we need to face them because lying is not working. I don’t sit around thinking I am superior. I would like to fix this society and the liberal method of denying reality is not working. Conservative reality denial isn’t working either.

    My position is nihilistic. No matter how smart most people are, they are going to be part of the “useless class.” Black people have the capacity to improvise new types of music. They can entertain themselves and the rest of us.

    That isn’t a plan for society and it shows a childish understanding of economics to suggest that Blacks can act as an entertainment class. Not even 1% of Blacks can live as an entertainer.

    This type of thinking leads to the very chaos that we see in Black areas. It isn’t an economic plan and you aren’t addressing the natural inequality that exists.

    • Agree: northeast
    • Replies: @ziggurat
  269. Curle says:
    @jsinton

    Applying for a job at BET are we?

  270. ziggurat says:
    @John Johnson

    It is true that White men are underperforming. This shouldn’t be a surprise since they are loaded up with egalitarian gobbly gook by both liberals and Christians from a young age. White boys are told in elementary school that they come from a line of oppressors that ruined Wakanda.

    That’s one of them themes of the book “Go Free: A Guide to Aligning with the Archetype of Westernkind”. The book’s purpose is to help whites to “go free” from these toxic messages, so that we can achieve personal success and help our people’s reclaim our destiny.

    From the Amazon page:

    We have all been infected with toxic antiwhite beliefs since our childhoods, and their destructive effects cannot be denied. Their enveloping influences issue from all media, education, government, religion, family, and friends, and you are diminished thereby.

    With effort, you can Go Free of MPs (meme pathogens). You can be better than you are. You can have purpose, safety, and happiness. You can access the Western Spirit within you, an unparalleled power that has revolutionized the world with scientific discovery, conquered disease, charted the unknown, and triumphed in battle.

  271. Curle says:
    @Morton's toes

    “ Before the tests were written did anybody miss them?”

    Before Napoleon shifted to meritocratic promotion in the military did anybody miss it? No, but once instituted everyone else was compelled by competitive necessity to get onboard or lose battles/wars.

  272. bayviking says:
    @MarkinLA

    Taken by itself, that sentence is misleading and I apologize. The context was meant to be “Race, a dubious category, should have no basis in the way we are treated under the law, or as individual human beings. Every economy requires more laborers than thinkers to function. Even if intelligence tests are legitimate they have no place in a free and fair society.”

    There is nothing wrong with segregating people during their education on account of their interests and/or their talents.

    But it is wrong to use poor intelligence as a political weapon for exploitation or imprisonment of people by race or any other category. It makes as much sense as punishing someone for having red hair. Unfortunately, our country’s original constitution made many such distinctions. Some have been fixed, but only when protestors took to the streets, beginning with women’s suffrage. The ruling class has been fighting back since FDR, rather successfully. This is all wrong.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  273. @Truth

    Just imagine how much lower it would be without the infusion of Arabic genes.

    • Replies: @Truth
  274. Truth says:
    @Carroll Price

    Oh, so let me see if I get this straight, IQ in Africa is directly and positively correlated to the amount of Arab genes…

    The Eastern Africans have lower IQs than most West African groups…

    But their IQs would be lower, for some reason, if they had no Arab genes…

    OK, got it.

  275. Polemos: “… if you are also a product, with the other people, of these evolutionary forces, then you are also lying to us and delighting in crafting a particular kind of lie to manipulate yourself and us your audience.”

    This conclusion is unwarranted, since if life is a struggle for dominance among competing forms using different techniques, as Darwin argues, then obviously there might be truth-tellers who compete against the liars. In other words, although evolutionary forces shape everyone, they don’t shape everyone uniformly to the same degree, as we are not all alike. The truth-teller variant is now rare, but still extant.

    Much of the remainder of your polemic (LOL) against me can be dismissed since it rests on this initial mistake.

    Polemos: “What is odd, to me, is that you have made it a point to say that people prone to think there are conspiracies out there with masterminds and puppeteers (their Them and They) are agents of their own lazy self-destruction because they are unwilling and unable to overcome their unacknowledged impotency and faults and thus need to cast blame to those more powerful others, when what they ought to do is challenge themselves and take personal responsibility for their failures.”

    In this context, what that means is that I think people ought to take personal responsibility for believing Christian lies. In my opinion the fact that they don’t do so doesn’t mean that they are helpless puppets of conspirators, it just means that they aren’t being honest. The vast majority of them are congenital liars, and that’s why a lying creed such as Christianity is so attractive to them. However, it’s conceivable there may exist a few who can be rallied to the truth’s defense, so it’s worth setting the truth out there for those willing and able to face it. As to the question: Was Christianity born of a conspiracy? That seems to have been Nietzsche’s view, and also Revilo Oliver’s, but I’m not sure I agree. I think it gives the Jews too much credit for intelligence to say they planned it all out. I think it’s more likely they were just doing what they do naturally, being “people of the lie”, as you mention. Paul was just a grifter running a traveling road show. Even if it was a conspiracy however, it doesn’t matter now. We can’t control the past, only the present; and we can’t control the actions of others, only our own.

    Polemos: “You’re just riffing on Paul, Dr. Robert Morgan …”

    Since my evolutionary argument depends on demonstrable fact, whereas Paul’s evangelizing of his liar’s creed depends on accepting the existence of invisible entities and stands in direct contradiction to the facts, it’s hard to see how that’s “riffing”.

    Polemos: “Also, you’re smart. So you must know that we Click Reply to make it easier for others to notice when responding to them, unless that, too, is part of The Strategem to strike unawares upon others. ”

    Clicking reply requires javascript, which I don’t use.

  276. @John Johnson

    The culture is called Judeo-Christian or Christian. Basically whites adopted the beliefs of Jewish heretics. The word on the street is that these Jewish heretics offered Europeans vastly superior beliefs to whatever ethnoreligious beliefs European peoples had cultivated for themselves. Then like predictable whites, they forced these beliefs on all European peoples. Christianity is Jewish. Jesus and the apostles were Jews. Icelanders chose that over their very own Norse. Shame on them.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Europe

    Whites wouldn’t have a religion without Jews. The great minds of socialism and libertarianism are Jewish. Whites serve Israel because of white guilt, Jewish money, and/or Christian fanaticism. Whites hate Iran because the Jews and their white lackeys told them to. How could whites ever live without their dear ally Israel? European peoples have an open immigration policy because they are weak minded. Many of them love multiculturalism because that is what they were taught. They have a childlike disregard and obliviousness for the brutal aspects of the cultures they are inviting into their societies. Whites would be lost without Jews helping them along the path of self-destruction. I stand by my claim that whites require Jews to do their thinking for them. Whites give up usury? Nope.

    Do you think those snobbish white liberals looking down on working class conservatives don’t enjoy their credentials? Reflexive obedience will help get the required credentials but at the cost of one’s agency and soul. Minorities are probably an abstraction for white liberals and they don’t see them as a threat to their social position. There is no white solidarity. There are confused rootless whites and woke whites that are preparing a pogrom for them. I do blame these whites. You can defend them if you want. The goal of school is to keep people in the same social class as their parents so maybe people are setup to fail in life by the way they are taught: http://www.jeananyon.org/docs/anyon-1980.pdf
    http://www.jeananyon.org/docs/anyon-1981.pdf

    The way AI and automation is hyped most people aren’t going to do anything, so they’ll have a lot of time on their hands. That is why they will be called the “useless class.” It is because they will be economically “useless.” That isn’t childish, that is the possible future that is rapidly approaching. Robots will have the jobs, not people. Amazon workers get wrongfully fired by AI because the AI is cheaper and there is a large pool of replacement workers. https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/amazon-employee-fired-by-a-robot-it-s-you-vs-machine-s-algorithm-121062801581_1.html

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @Dumbo
  277. geokat62 says:
    @John Johnson

    So you start talking about Jews and most Americans will immediately think Hitler.

    True. But before they think of Hitler, we need to explain to them who’s behind mass immigration and other pernicious ideologies like CRT that are turning our homelands into shit holes.

    Then you would have to explain that you are talking about secular Jews and not religious Jews.

    There isn’t much of a difference between these two groups, both are hyper-supremacist.

    … there would be an endless supply non-Jewish egalitarian Whites willing to take their place.

    Ah, yes. The vaunted “progressives.” Like the true believers in the workers paradise, these easily deceived people will soon come to realise that the wokers paradise they were sold was just another lie. Although it took 70 years for people to give up on the workers paradise, people will walk away from the wokers paradise much sooner.

    So yes there is too much focus on the Jews and from a strategic position it doesn’t make sense to bring them up.

    If you don’t focus on the bull’s eye, you’re less likely to hit the target.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  278. mkr says:
    @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    I’ve seen the racial IQ distribution curve chart. I don’t dispute it.

    What are it’s implications to you? Be specific. Do you think we should have segregation again? Or perhaps a white nationalist state, and what would that look like in terms of our (USA) current map? If you want a white nationalist state would you propose expelling blacks and other non-whites using force to do it? Let’s cut straight to the chase, what’s your objective?

    My objective is secure borders, ports, coastlines, bring our military home from overseas, stop attacking countries that didn’t attack us first, stop exporting our jobs overseas, stop importing illegal immigrants, build up the middle class, have public financing of elections, kick the oligarchs, lobbyists and other special interests out of our capitals, do right by our environment and stop polluting our land, our water, and our air, take care of people’s basic needs if they are unemployed in the form of an unemployment check, instill in people that to have goods and services people need to work to produce those goods and services; work is honorable; find work that you like to do in life, stop bashing our Republic, America-our nation freed the individual by outlawing dictatorship, slavery, segregation, and unequal rights and values freedom of thought, speech, expression, and association as human rights and property rights given to us by our Creator (life, God, whatever made us), do business only with like minded nations, stop propagandizing the American public through lies, thefts, and other trespasses, uphold objective truth, the right of the people to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

    To me culture is the most important thing.

  279. @Achmed E. Newman

    No, he’s not even “friendly” to McWorther (“I suspect Prof. McWhorter is mentally hobbled by something more than his race” lol at how you could interpret that phrase), just impartial and fair.

    Furthermore, Taylor doesn’t *need* to nominate a black friend. There’s been a black lady who wrote for many years for Amren.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  280. Spud Boy says:

    “How did blacks, stripped by slavery of their original culture, get this miserable “culture”?”

    Progressive whites gave it to them through welfare programs that drove fathers out of the home, and by encouraging a sense of entitlement that jobs appropriate to someone with an IQ of 90 are beneath blacks.

    I happen to think McWhorter is correct. You can’t convince me that the childhood environment between the ages of 1-3, when brains are developing rapidly, has nothing to do with IQ. Or that the lack of a father in the home doesn’t affect a boy’s propensity for violence.

  281. Spud Boy says:
    @PJ London

    It’s not the blacks that are smart enough to get into Syracuse that are causing all the mayhem in cities across America.

    • LOL: Tom F.
  282. The bottom line, the harsh reality, is that the Jews have weaponized Blacks, Perverts, Deviants, Amerindians, Latin Mestizos and Mulattoes and other inferior races against Whites. We are now living under a Soviet-style tyranny in which the enforced religion is that of Negro Worship.
    The current ruling Jewish governing elite in White countries has imposed a religion in which the ugliest, stupidest, most unintelligent, most impulsively violent, most sociopathic, savage, most parasitic race must be celebrated as brave, beautiful promethean heroes who will save Whites from themselves.
    Whites only became susceptible to this satanic evil after the two World Wars of White Suicide. We were vulnerable. We had lost a couple of generations of our finest young men. We were appalled at what we had done. The Jews stepped in as the ambulance-chasing false victims that they were and are.
    That is why there is such a weak push-back against the evil of Wokeness. Whites are afraid of their own capacity for destruction. As a result we’ve allowed our religion and our civilization to be destroyed by the Jews and their other nonWhite allies.
    The details don’t matter. All that matters is for Whites to see who are their enemies. And this “professor” is just another Leftist imbecile who is destroying civilization.
    NonWhites have declared open war on Whites. We have a right to our countries that we founded and built. Every square inch of them.
    The only solution to Woke Culture is mass deportation of ALL of the enemies of Whites. And let’s remember that Jews are not Whites. They are the self-declared enemies of Whites.
    It might not seem that the solution of mass deportation is possible right now, but things can move very, very fast under the right circumstances. For instance, who would have predicted the collapse of the Soviet Union even a couple of years before it happened?
    In any event, mass expulsion of nonWhites from historically White countries; Europe, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, U.S., Canada, etc. is the ONLY solution. Whites are already in a war for their very existence. At some point there will be a massive awakening among Whites that this is a stark, brutal reality.

    • Agree: Sin City Milla
    • Replies: @anarchyst
  283. MarkinLA says:
    @bayviking

    Who is using intelligence as a political weapon? It seems to me the left is taking advantage of lack of intelligence of blacks by making all sorts of stupid claims about “racism” to get power for itself. Our whole entire discourse on race, crime, education, voting rights, and everything else is based on a complete lack of intelligence and childish name calling without being able to discuss the issue honesty.

    How many times have we heard that white people have no right to discuss the pathologies of the black community while everybody is allowed to discuss white pathologies.

    • Agree: West reanimator
  284. MarkinLA says:
    @Spud Boy

    Except Head Start is largely a failure. There seems to be no lasting effect and what there was wasn’t much to talk about. It was just another government money pit. The lack of a father in the home is in many cases a guy in prison or a deadbeat. Hardly father role model material.

    Nobody is limited by some number on an IQ test. There is nothing stopping you from working harder, longer, showing up on time and having a good attitude on the job. There are so many components to success beyond how “smart” you are. The problem for blacks is the common stereotype is that they are lacking in these as well.

    • Agree: West reanimator
  285. Dumbo says:

    Whites are intelligent, but they are not smart.

    Just tell the Jews to cut the subversive crap, and the Blacks to stop stealing so much, how hard is that.

    But most Whites can’t even seem to understand, or realize, that Jews like to subvert things and that Blacks commit more crime than anyone else. It doesn’t take a genius to observe reality.

  286. anarchyst says:
    @Fisk Ellington Rutledge IV

    I could not agree with you more…you are correct in stating that a “great realignment” is necessary. How to achieve it?
    That being said, I have been banned from Jared Taylor’s site American Renaissance for over a decade for bringing up the “jewish question”. Moderators have promised my “reinstatement” but to date, such “reinstatement” has not been forthcoming.
    I have noticed that recent commenters to “American Renaissance” have brought up the very same topics and have not been banned. I guess “timing is everything.”

  287. anarchyst says:
    @Johnny F. Ive

    You are correct. We have to get away from the “judeo-Christian” mindset.
    Using the “Old Testament” for “laws” is wrong. Yes, the Ten Commandments are a good guide which proscribes certain behaviors, but the rest of mosaic law relies on a vindictive, vengeful “god” to exact “punishment” on “his people”.

    [MORE]

    That my work fine for jews, as they have their supremacist “Talmud” to rely on, but “for the rest of us”, it won’t wash.
    Judaism is an insular belief system that shuns outsiders, prohibits proselytization, and promotes a form of supremacy, relegating all gentiles (non-jews) to the status of livestock-subhumans with souls, only to be used for the advancement and benefit of jews.
    In fact, slavery (of goyim) is still condoned and encouraged in the jewish Talmud. In addition, the jewish Talmud condones pedophilia, allowing lecherous old jews to rape children as long as they are “three years and a day” of age.
    The barbaric practice of circumcision (male genital mutilation) is also suspect, the mohel fellating the infant after the “deed is done” passing on (who knows what) STDs to the infant. Sick…This is why jews are rife with mental illnesses, not manifesting their many symptoms until adulthood.
    In fact, every jewish “holiday” (holy day) is based on the celebration of genocide and destruction of gentiles.
    Our present troubles are a result of a jewish cabal taking over political decisions in our nominally “multicultural” country.
    Tying Judaism to Christianity was a clever trick used by the jews to “cement” their claim to the “land of Israel” and of the covenant, to which I reply, “God is not a real estate agent”.
    Jews rejected the covenant when they murdered Jesus Christ. Their covenant with (their) God was then “null and void”.
    It is the flawed Schofield translation of the Bible that elevated jews to the status of Christianity’s “elder brothers”, which was then reinforced by the Catholic (flawed) “Vatican II Ecumenical Council” in the 1960s.
    I cringe when I hear well-meaning people talk about out judeo-Christian heritage.
    Nothing could be further from the truth.
    The god of judaism is a vengeful god, totally unlike the merciful and welcoming God of Christianity.
    Christianity welcomes ALL, regardless of nationality or social status, not true of judaism.
    Jews DID murder Jesus Christ and TOOK FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR DOING SO.
    Sad to say, even the present-day (post-Vatican II ecumenical council) Catholic church has bought into absolving the jews for Jesus Christ’s murder.
    As is the case, even today, the jews got others, the Romans to do their “dirty work” for them, the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.
    How can Christians have the same values as the Jews; the very people who denounced and betrayed the founder of Christianity, Jesus Christ, and call for his execution (by others, of course, that is the Jewish way)?.
    It makes absolutely no sense at all.
    Jews have no respect for Christianity, for Jesus Christ or Mary, his mother, who are both honored as Prophets in Islam, but instead, Jews spit on hearing their names and do the same while passing a Christian of any kind or a Christian Church in Israel. They have no respect for Christians or any other religion.
    It is long overdue for the Jewish lobbies and the American Government leaders as well as the evangelical Christian leaders who mislead the poor American young into joining the military and believing that they are doing something for God and Christianity by fighting Israel’s wars were named, shamed and arrested and tried for treason. Judaism should be declared to be a “foreign political system” and should be closely monitored.
    In a perverse sort of way, israel’s favorite “war song” is “Onward Christian Soldiers”…
    There…I’ve said it…

  288. Anon[133] • Disclaimer says:
    @JimDandy

    I’m white. I’m pretty sure Asian-Americans–on average–have a higher I.Q. than white Americans. Wow, that was really, really easy for me to write.

    I only know of just 2 credible black HBDers on the whole entire internet, 2! 1 guy wrote an article on Jared’s site. And the other guy is jayman who had a blog. I believe He is Jamaican.

    I find this to be absolutely amazing and fascinating that there is a near complete lack of back race realists. For a topic that you can find widely varying opinions on the white side, I have never seen self admitting blacks on the internet accept that blacks are less intelligent.

    This is the power of cognitive bias, millions of blacks on the internet but almost none of them believe the genetic explanation!

    Obywandiyag could literally become internet famous if he would stop deny the facts and flipped and just started educating people on the internet. To be fair, Twitter, YouTube wouldn’t allow black race realist anyway.

  289. Dumbo says:
    @Johnny F. Ive

    “Judeo-Christian” is a Jewish term that doesn’t make much sense as they diverged more than 2,000 years ago. Basically there was a mixed-up religion that was divided in half, the “good part” was then called “Christianity”, the bad part was called “Judaism”, then the bad part evolved into something even worse along the centuries, and the good part was weakened as it was subverted by Jews.

    (Why does no one says “Judeo-Islamic”? They have a lot more in common)

    About A.I., a lot of jobs are going to disappear, but those are the “good” jobs. Servants, maids, trash collectors, drivers, all those will continue to exist, in part because people are cheaper than robots, and in part because the elites like to have servants around (no fun having servant robots). So you’ll still have lots of brown servants.

    So the “useless people” are not really useless at all. This is – yet another – plan by the elite to get rid of White middle class normal people, to kill them off. That’s all.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  290. We have a world where cows, not frogs, are the primary source of milk.

    “I would have to work very hard to come up with a way of accepting that world.”

    Well Prof. McWhorter, the sooner you get started on this task, the better.

  291. @MarkinLA

    Nobody is limited by some number on an IQ test. There is nothing stopping you from working harder, longer, showing up on time and having a good attitude on the job. There are so many components to success beyond how “smart” you are. The problem for blacks is the common stereotype is that they are lacking in these as well.
    ——————————
    The usage of IQ tests to establish which jobs are appropriate for people predates the civil rights act of 1964.

    • Replies: @raga10
    , @MarkinLA
  292. raga10 says:
    @epochehusserl

    There are so many components to success beyond how “smart” you are.

    Exactly – this emphasis on IQ scores is in my opinion misplaced. “white nurses have on average higher IQ”? … So what? That might make them better at climbing out of nursing into more skilled jobs but does it make them better nurses as such? I highly doubt it. Personally I’d rather be looked after by a nurse who is dedicated, sympathetic and friendly rather than a very smart one – and none of these traits will be affected by small difference in average IQ score.

    Prof. McWhorter wants good schools for blacks. Wouldn’t he want good teachers for them, even if they are white?

    Yes, I would want good teachers. And what makes a good teacher – IQ score? Really? I’d put it to you that someone with really high IQ might not actually be very good with kids because frankly, they are just not that interesting on intellectual level. Perhaps what is more important is for kids to be able to relate to their teacher and in this sense, yes – black teacher of average IQ might in fact be better for black kids than a white one with Mensa membership.

  293. MarkinLA says:
    @epochehusserl

    I am not sure what your point is. Obviously, somebody scoring at an IQ level of 90 in the math oriented – spatial reasoning parts of an IQ test is not going to make a good candidate for an astrophysicist. However, within a reasonable IQ band the other traits come into play. Success is more than just some degree. I never said “You could be anything you want” only that you can be a success which would mean a reasonable living standard for your family and financial security.

    • Replies: @epochehusserl
  294. @geokat62

    (on religious vs secular Jews)
    There isn’t much of a difference between these two groups, both are hyper-supremacist.

    There is a huge difference which is that religious Jews expect paradise in heaven. Secular left-wing Jews try to build it on earth. I really don’t care if religious Jews are arrogant. Strongly religious people in general tend to be arrogant. We have Mormons that shop at my local grocery store and they always look cocky as hell. I guess I would be cocky too if I was certain that I was getting my own planet for choosing the right prophet.

    Ah, yes. The vaunted “progressives.” Like the true believers in the workers paradise, these easily deceived people will soon come to realise that the wokers paradise they were sold was just another lie. Although it took 70 years for people to give up on the workers paradise, people will walk away from the wokers paradise much sooner.

    The left-wing departments of US Universities are dominated by White liberal women and they know exactly what they are doing. They are not some innocent group that has been deceived by Jews.

    If anything straight Jewish men are no longer welcome in these departments. Liberal women like their men to be submissive and not intellectually threatening. To be clear we are talking about the men that they work with and not sleep with.

    Have a look at this picture of the Huffpo editors:
    https://www.mic.com/articles/144177/this-tweet-from-a-huffington-post-editor-shows-the-problem-with-white-feminism

    The left has become a feel-good chick club. Your view of the Jews leading the left was more true in the 193os than today.

    Anyways Hitler believed that getting rid of Jews would get rid of the left and it didn’t work.

    If you don’t focus on the bull’s eye, you’re less likely to hit the target.

    I think you see a lot of targets when you wear star of david glasses.

    If you want to spend your time blaming the Jews then knock yourself out. I really don’t care.

    I think it is counter-productive though because like I said there are plenty of non-Jewish White liberal women that would happily take the place of any left-wing Jew. This is what happened in a lot of European countries that no longer have Jewish populations. The left-wing parties have been taken over by women and weak men.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  295. W says:
    @omegabooks

    I want one race denier to tell me why the human species is the only one without subspecies.

    Tell me why there are differant breeds of lions, tigers and bears but only one breed of human.

    • Thanks: Grahamsno(G64)
  296. @Spud Boy

    I happen to think McWhorter is correct. You can’t convince me that the childhood environment between the ages of 1-3, when brains are developing rapidly, has nothing to do with IQ.

    It really doesn’t if they aren’t malnourished. Seems counter-intuitive but numerous studies back nature over nurture at that stage.

    Or that the lack of a father in the home doesn’t affect a boy’s propensity for violence.

    Probably correct here but the liberal establishment doesn’t want to talk about that. If they admit that single moms are worse for boys then they might have to admit that they were wrong about marriage and traditional values. Better to just blame “the system” or something.

  297. @JimDandy

    What kind of person would get outraged over facts?

    The female of the human species, no matter her race, ethnicity, religion, or age, does so routinely.

    • Agree: acementhead
  298. @MarkinLA

    Except Head Start is largely a failure. There seems to be no lasting effect and what there was wasn’t much to talk about. It was just another government money pit.

    It did fail in its original goals but it is the least odious among welfare programs.

    Head Start at least serves a lot of rural White and Hispanic children that probably wouldn’t get a decent breakfast otherwise. It also provides jobs in very remote areas.

    The real welfare money pit is what they call crazy money. Basically people getting disability for mental health excuses.

  299. @rebel yell

    It means that 14% of the US population will always be a plague on us. And blacks will always resent us no matter what we do. Eliminating blacks from our midst through some sort of genocide is a very distasteful idea to civilized people, and it’s hard to see a way out that doesn’t involve eliminating blacks in one way or another.

    Liberia. Send them there. Make it a choice: Liberia, or a dirt nap.

    The Americo-Liberians (descendants of freed American slaves) complain that they’re a minority outnumbered by the indigenous tribes. Let’s ship them 41 million “new” Americo-Liberians to boost their numbers. God knows they can’t possibly do any more to eff the place up than have previous generations, or the indigenous tribes.

  300. Blacks are not our enemy. I grew up in South Houston, Alabama, Arkansas, and Louisiana. My father traveled around doing construction jobs all over the south. I have had many playmates that were black. I have had black bullies and white bullies beat me up in school. Ignorance knows no color. We are all victims or benefactors of our environments, our neighborhoods, our mentors, or lack thereof. In some tragic cases, our beliefs are installed by losers that have utterly failed in life themselves. And so they seek to design company for themselves in old age by crippling our advancement.

    I just don’t believe in the “Bell Curve” or that Blacks are inferior in intelligence. I do not believe this. I think they are just as smart as anyone else given the proper environment.

    I think articles like this are not helpful. I don’t believe in mixed marriages. I prefer my own race and my own color. But I don’t believe blacks are our enemy. Socialist Democrats pushing CRT and Race Grifting blacks like Barack and Michelle Obama are our enemies. These shitheads that instigate race wars are our enemies.


    [MORE]

    I am curious. Many wealthy white families living in Connecticut have adopted black children. Barring some mental handicap at birth from a ghetto ho mom, I wonder how would these black children fair on an IQ test. How many black kids totally removed from the inner city ghettos and raised in a completely different culture, with proper nourishment and guidance, would place the same on IQ test as whites??? If they were taught the love of reading? If their heroes were not black athletes but black astronauts? If their self-esteem was nourished every day and they were placed in a loving home that was peaceful, kind, and considerate and they had that bedrock foundation for their young minds to develop, dream and achieve.

    People underestimate the crippling effects of growing up without a father in some crime-infested shit hole city, in section 8 housing. It is no joke. The kid is left rudderless….drifting…not whole. Free to get into all kinds of trouble with no repercussions.

    I question the value of the IQ test given to adults. I wonder if each participant was screened for environmental factors (childhood, home life, location, and quality of schools). Without knowing the environment each participant was raised in….how accurate could this IQ test really be. Are blacks much more likely to be impoverished than whites, therefore as adults they naturally place lower??

    I really believe we use so little of our brains. Neuroscientists believe we really only use about 10% of our brains. The remaining portions of our brains lay dormant awaiting the day when our training and education demands more brain activity. IQ is a matter of training, a matter of environment.

  301. @Dumbo

    The Talmudists in Israel agree that there is a lot more in common between Islam and Judaism than Christianity and Judaism. In fact they REVILE Christianity and Jesus Christ.

  302. The Peul says:
    @northeast

    Well, I guess chaos and apathy may be one form of solution. Although, one would think that White Nationalists for all their reputedly high IQ would come up with a more sensible solution to the current state racial affairs in America than let everything fall apart.

    • Replies: @northeast
  303. @MarkinLA

    I am not sure what your point is. Obviously, somebody scoring at an IQ level of 90 in the math oriented – spatial reasoning parts of an IQ test is not going to make a good candidate for an astrophysicist.
    —————————
    This directly contradicts what you said in the previous post where you stated:

    “Nobody is limited by some number on an IQ test. There is nothing stopping you from working harder, longer, showing up on time and having a good attitude on the job.”

    If nobody is limited by some number on an IQ test then why would it be obvious that someone who has an IQ of 90 wouldn’t make a good candidate for an astrophysicist?

  304. @Mike Fridelle

    If you are a white person you are pathetic. The media searches out any black not retarded and pretends they are superior. Blacks are the lowest IQ people on this planet. they evolved using rape to produce their populations. The most aggressive stupid blacks were the ones passing on their DNA.

    You are dumb as your average black.

  305. @Mike Fridelle

    There have been adoption studies where blacks raised in white families were studied for iq. They show gains relative to other blacks their age before 18, but revert to the black population mean iq after adulthood. These things are convassed and detailed in bell curve and similar books.

    It’s true blacks could be doing a lot better than they are with cultural adjustments, but they won’t be equal to whites. We can’t raise all blacks in white families in an insane quest to equalize or maximize them. At some point you have to accept nature as it is. Look at Africa or the carribean. Why don’t they rise to the level of first world countries in those contexts, where there are no whites to treat them as “enemies?”

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  306. @Mike Fridelle

    I just don’t believe in the “Bell Curve” or that Blacks are inferior in intelligence.

    So all groups started with the same curve or the curve doesn’t exist at all?

    Is there a racial curve for height?

    But I don’t believe blacks are our enemy. Socialist Democrats pushing CRT and Race Grifting blacks like Barack and Michelle Obama are our enemies

    Why do you think they are pushing CRT? It’s because they have failed to achieve equal outcomes due to natural differences and have adopted the leftist plan which is to grind down Whites.

    If natural differences didn’t exist then CRT wouldn’t exist.

    Accepting racial differences doesn’t require that Blacks be your enemy.

    This “Socialist Democrats” trope has gone on too long. It’s the conservative form of race denial. Haiti and Somalia are both capitalist and yet they didn’t become first world countries. What is your explanation?

    Posting anecdotal cases/videos only shows that you don’t understand how averages work.

  307. @Happy Tapir

    There have been adoption studies where blacks raised in white families were studied for iq. They show gains relative to other blacks their age before 18, but revert to the black population mean iq after adulthood. These things are convassed and detailed in bell curve and similar books.

    An interesting side note here is that the Minnesota trans-racial adoption study was actually never supposed to happen.

    The authors were True Believers that thought the results would prove that environment is everything.

    The University however did not want the study to happen. They correctly assumed that nothing good would come of the study (for the establishment). However they couldn’t explain why the study shouldn’t take place due to political correctness.

    In response to the unwanted results the authors actually wrote that their conclusion was still correct. This is of course absurd if one actually looks at the data. But you can find Wikipedia articles and textbooks where they state this and gloss over the results.

    Such a study would never take place today. The left has switched to CRT and no longer seeks to prove that genetics don’t matter.

  308. Tom F. says:

    I just don’t believe in the “Bell Curve” or that Blacks are inferior in intelligence. I do not believe this. I think they are just as smart as anyone else given the proper environment.

    Gonna guess you have not read the Bell Curve. The data is hundreds of thousands of IQ tests done for military entrance, as well as public education.

    Would you stipulate that people in prison are less intelligent than the general population? Violent people are less intelligent than the general population? If you do stipulate to these, and there is no fact-based reason not to, then you can see why both prisoners and violent criminals subsets contain a massive overrepresentation of Blacks and Latinos.

  309. Tom F. says:
    @Spud Boy

    Progressive whites gave it to them through welfare programs that drove fathers out of the home, and by encouraging a sense of entitlement that jobs appropriate to someone with an IQ of 90 are beneath blacks.

    Christopher Caldwell wrote an excellent book detailing this very point you make, “The Age of Entitlement.” Nobody wants to give up freebies. And everybody, including fellow Blacks, still has the same opinion of Blacks today as in 1964.

  310. babu says:

    Charles Murray is a cake walking coon. That is not what Dr. Amos Wilson said.

  311. What we have here is failure . . . . of logic.

    Blacks are dumb
    Dumbness is demonstrated by an IQ of x
    Blacks have lower IQ than x

    Evidence, apparently many blacks, well some blacks have an IQ higher than X.

    Conclusion — blacks are dumb.

  312. Another fool, and leave it to Unz to run it. Have some fun, here:

    At the end of the 18th century, two profound political processes unfolded: One, in 1776 led to the formation of the USA, which went on to dominate the African Slave Trade. The other, ignited in 1791, led to the Haitian Revolution, which precipitated a General Crisis of the entire slave system that could only be resolved with its collapse — not least in the U.S. itself in 1865. Unfortunately, those who feasted on free labor have not forgotten and will never forgive Haiti, including today when the USA, Canada and the European Union (especially France) continue to interfere maliciously in Haiti’s internal affairs.

    Speakers:

    • Professor Gerald Horne, University of Houston
    • Professor Jemima Pierre, University of California Los Angeles

    Followed by Q&A Period.

    Organized by U.S. Peace Council

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  313. Why have the police become one of the most common perpetrators of violence in today’s America, rather than a measure of safety? It has been made clear, over and over again, that the killing of George Floyd is far from one cop being “a bad apple.” We have seen police violence escalate, tear gas and rubber bullets used on peaceful protestors. We have seen that the U.S. policing system is deeply rooted in anti-Black, racist structures of power that uphold white supremacy. The past week’s events have shown us, once again, that our national crisis is beyond a matter of police reform; it is long past time that we hold the police accountable for their brutal actions, and start thinking of more viable options for our future.

    To quote Alex S. Vitale, author of The End of Policing: “It’s time for everyone to quit thinking that jailing one more killer cop will do anything to change the nature of American policing. We must move, instead, to significantly defund the police and redirect resources into community-based initiatives that can produce real safety and security without the violence and racism inherent in the criminal justice system.”

    Invisible No More: Police Violence Against Black Women and Women of Color by Andrea Ritchie. …
    The End of Policing by Alex S. Vitale.

    Policing the Black Man: Arrest, Prosecution, and Imprisonment, ed. Angela Davis.

    When Police Kill by Franklin Zimring

    The New Jim Crow, Michelle Alexander

    Locking Up Our Own, James Forman Jr.

    Biased, Jennifer L. Eberhardt
    ….
    Ghettoside, Jill Leovy

    Read! Think!

    War is not Peace. Lies are not Truths. White Race is not the Ultimate Race. Stupidity isn’t Smarts!

    https://defundthepolice.org/other-resources/

    • Replies: @mkr
    , @mkr
    , @mkr
    , @Sin City Milla
  314. W says:
    @Mike Fridelle

    Blacks are not our enemy.

    I agree, we are not your enemy, at least not a “hot” enemy, but the racial cold war started years ago. The concept of white privilege was broadcast 24/7 for a reason. CRT was taught for a reason. The fans are deliberately being flamed.

    If(when) SHTF your skin color will be your uniform. You will not yell “I am not your enemy” to a bunch of Blacks approaching your family.

    Socialist Democrats pushing CRT and Race Grifting blacks like Barack and Michelle Obama are our enemie

    Yes, but the people pulling their strings should be your focus.

    I just don’t believe in the “Bell Curve” or that Blacks are inferior in intelligence. I do not believe this. I think they are just as smart as anyone else given the proper environment.

    IQ is based on the physical characteristics of the brain.

    Boxers lose IQ points because their brains take physical damage.

    People become retarded when deprived of oxygen long enough because the physical properties of the brain change.

    Children who grow up in houses with lead based paint lose IQ points the paint has an adverse affect on the brain.

    Physical characteristics are largely based on heriabilty, not environment.

    Come on now.

  315. W says:
    @The Peul

    The only remotely possible solutions to racial problems in America that White Nationalists offer is “separation”. But even this is silly: Liberals and Jews (the rulers of the United States) would never allow that to happen.

    Organized Ashkenazis don’t have complete control and do not anywhere near the power to stop separation when things go bad.

    The US is to large and the Federal government to weak for a small hat to snap his fingers and say“no you don’t

    Although, one would think that White Nationalists for all their reputedly high IQ would come up with a more sensible solution to the current state racial affairs in America than let everything fall apart.

    Who said WN have high IQs? This passive little jab sounds like something a butthurt anti white would say…The current
    US unsustainable, IQ can’t fix it anyway.

    • Replies: @epochehusserl
  316. @threestars

    Note the smiley face. It means making a funny.

    Let me show you again:

    ;-}

  317. mkr says:
    @PabloSharkman

    Just because black people have a higher crime rate than white people does not make the police racist or America a white supremacist country. Asians have a lower crime rate than white people but white people are smart enough to not go around claiming that cops are racist or that America is as Asian supremacist country.

    Every year in America black men rape over 35,000 white women. Every year in America white men rape under 10 black women. These statistics tell us all we need to know about how to fix crime, it’s called personal responsiblity, stop being a criminal and the police will leave you alone. What do you think would happen to those black and white rapists if there were no cops and no prison? They would be killed that’s what, and rightfully so. Having cops and prison allows us to not kill rapists, allowing the rapist to live and to learn to see the error of what they did.

    Your side already lost Pablo. We are enforcing our red lines. You can leave America Pablo. Leave, by all means.

  318. mkr says:
    @PabloSharkman

    There were four cops who were restraining Floyd. What you said about there only being one cop present tells me everything I need to know about your politics: you don’t know what you’re talking about and are just repeating something else that someone told you to say, you are repeating talking points instead of critically thinking about solutions to problems. It was two white cops, a black cop, and an Asian cop. It’s tiring really. People are fed up with your bullshit. Tear gas and rubber bullets were used on rioters you moron. You can’t have a protest that includes rioters without the whole thing being shut down, or what did you think you could protest next to a rioter and still call your actions “protesting”? What’s wrong with you? You’re lucky there are cops at all or else the citizens would shut you down at these riots using force, massive force, and we have no jail so we’d have to just beat the crap out of you so bad that you would never want to riot again.

  319. @Tom F.

    Rather charitable of you to attribute Professor McWhorter’s reticence on this issue to an overabundance of modesty. Though I fear that there is an angle to this wrinkle in the discourse which would warrant assuming a totally contrary motive on McWhorter’s part. For McWhorter to grant that he is himself an outlier high IQ black male would be to engender three dismal statistical predictions about his own family. The first, that his two half white, half black daughters have likely regressed toward the IQ mean insofar as his genetic contribution to them is concerned. The second prediction aggravates the first. Because his two children are girls we can predict that they are less likely to be outlier high IQ than he was, due to IQ distribution differences between males and females. The third assumption is likely the most “depressing,” borrowing McWhorter’s own language if you’ll forgive the pun. The natural rational leap to make when contemplating these statistics when you’re a father of mixed-race children is to evaluate your own contribution to the genetic and intellectual outcomes of your children. The data would put McWhorter face to face with an implicit assertion that his contribution to his children’s genome literally depressed the expected IQ outcomes of his daughters respective to his wife’s own genetic contribution, barring IQ differences between the two parents. Based on our three observations we can assume a certain likelihood that his daughters have not displayed the early markers of high intelligence which McWhorter himself would have shown as a child. As a divorced parent of mixed race children this would present a potential narcissistic injury which many people would be unwilling to bear publicly, should the logical conclusions of the data be taken to their endpoint. I don’t tend to see university professors as the least likely group to exhibit pride over their own and their children’s intellectual accomplishments.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  320. northeast says:
    @The Peul

    Most whites are not white nationalists. Sometimes there are no solutions to evolutionary deadends. You may like shoveling sand into the sea, but most of us trust the reality of what we see…black cultural & social & genetic failure in every place they exist.

  321. mkr says:
    @PabloSharkman

    Why don’t you change the crime culture amongst black America and stop looking for white people to give you handouts from their tax money? Can’t black people have some personal responsibility and help themselves or is that too much to ask? Who do you think is predominately calling the cops on black people? The overwhelming vast majority of people calling the cops on black people are other black people, yet you want to use the “black race” as if it’s some monolith that collectively wants to defind or abolish the police, or somehow you’re their representative! You’re a joke, a stupid racist, even the majority of blacks don’t want to defund the police, yet you pretend to speak for all black people, do you even realize how racist that is? Your infantilizing black people and making black people seem pathetic. Thankfully the majority of black Americans are not buying your crap either. Your whole schtick is crashing and burning everyday, you reverse reality and call it reality, you accuse your enemies of what you yourself are guilty of, it’s a game that your master is playing on you because he knows that you are stupid and emotional, through you he gets his distraction while he does his dirty deals behind closed doors while no one’s watching.

  322. @Antediluvian Doomer

    As a divorced parent of mixed race children this would present a potential narcissistic injury which many people would be unwilling to bear publicly, should the logical conclusions of the data be taken to their endpoint.

    Interesting analysis but I really doubt he is even aware of regression to the mean.

    But more importantly I wouldn’t put too much thought into what mulattoes privately think.

    As with leftists they can only conclude that lying about race is the only possible path forward. This is why it isn’t worth spending too much time on how they reach various conclusions.

    Mulattoes would have far more competition if the public accepted racial differences. It would be a return to the 20s when they were viewed as useful for teaching Black children or acting as bridges for Black/White business relations. They would not be highly sought after by large corporations as they are today.

    Mulattoes are not going to start prodding establishment views on race to see if they actually have merit. If the system is to be disrupted it will be by White men. They are expected to swallow the lie to their own detriment as they are blamed for the failures of racial egalitarian policies. Even if the country is on a destructive path they are expected to keep quiet and take the blame for the sake of fictional equality. Mullatoes will happily sail the ship into the ground knowing that they will still be fed better than most before it crashes.

  323. @PabloSharkman

    Some professors sharing their buzzwords and excuses is not going to change reality.

    Haiti is proof that the left is wrong. People are starving there and pretending that all groups have equal capacity and that some nebulous external (White) influence is the problem is the epitome of delusion.

    Haiti is ruled by Black people. Is that not enough? What exactly is the problem?

    Black people in the USA: Held back by White people in government.

    Black people in Haiti: Has Black government but still held back by White people somewhere.

    This is so ridiculous. How long do you really think this can go on?

  324. @jsinton

    Some of the smartest people I have known happen to have been black. Some of the most incapable people I have met were Chinese or Japanese.

    That’s very clever.

    It’s so clever that I would lay hard cash that you cannot explain in any way precisely how and why it is that the exact 0pposite is true in my case – and also in the case of very many people I have known and spoken to at great length about that very point.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  325. Prof. McWhorter has no idea where the madness comes from

    I wonder regularly – and sadly – whether Prof. Taylor can honestly, truthfully see (((where the madness comes from))) – or whether, for reasons he refuses to discuss, he simply also refuses to acknowledge it.

    • Replies: @USA invades Israel
  326. uman says:
    @Priss Factor

    yeahh… but smarter people have less kids… or no kids… sooooo

  327. @Dave Bowman

    It’s so clever that I would lay hard cash that you cannot explain in any way precisely how and why it is that the exact 0pposite is true in my case – and also in the case of very many people I have known and spoken to at great length about that very point.

    I would lay hard cash that he is at least 120 miles from a Black area.

    These leftists and egalitarian liars are so full of crap. I used to live around liberals and most are scared of even going to a Mexican restaurant that doesn’t cater to Whites.

    Just go to a Black area and tell me how many White liberals you see walking with Blacks. The Whites you see in Black areas tend to be White men doing work or degenerates.

  328. @Priss Factor

    So, while a dummy who reads books will not become smarter, a dumb people that come to prize books and bestow most rewards(especially of sexual nature) to the smarter among them will become smarter over time because smarter among them will have more kids while the dumber will have fewer.

    Yes and Western society has turned dysgenic.

    Smart people are actually told to have fewer kids to conserve resources while idiots can breed all they want. I sat in a college class and listened to a lecture on how responsible people (read Whites) should have few or no kids for the environment.

    Liberals have a very hard time with this reality. Once you take away blank slate you can’t argue against dysgenics. They just hope this problem just somehow magically goes away.

    Liberalism is magical thinking. It might as well involve fairies and devils. They try to wish away human genetics with magic.

  329. I’m just glad that (((Jared))) is there to keep the discussion Black vs. White and not complicating everything by mentioning the Jews.

  330. @Some Guy

    This is a pretty tough argument to make when even the Pope has gone woke. It also needs point out that most American whites are still more religious that whites in other western countries, yet still succumb to the same liberal lunacy. And the only non-woke countries are in Eastern Europe, which underwent half a century of aggressive scientific atheism.

    The most likely answer to hyper -liberalism is affluence. The average GDP per person in the US is $65,000. In contrast, GDP per person in Russia is under $15, 000. Hence Eastern Europeans aren’t yet rich enough to engage in woke western politics.

    As much as I hate to admit it, affluence addles White brains. Collectivists East Asians are somewhat protected from liberal lunacy, but they have other issues. Like marrying avatars and shunning physical activity.

  331. Berkan says:

    “Truth” is now basically whatever flatters a person’s self-love, everything else “false”.

  332. John McWhorter, who teaches at Columbia, is one of a handful of blacks who write sensible things about race.

    He is also, with Thomas Sowell and Clarence Thomas, among the rare black “intellectuals” who have anything to show outside of the subject of race. This is not a coincidence.

    • Replies: @Truth
  333. Truth says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    He is also, with Thomas Sowell and Clarence Thomas, among the rare black “intellectuals” who have anything to show outside of the subject of race.

    I’ve read your posts for many years now, you have nothing to show outside of the subject of race.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  334. “Why People Can’t Face the Truth”

    You ask this question of your readers, Mr. T. in the hopes they reflect and ruminate on your words. Should readership seriously make an effort or spare the time on that which you speak when you do not ask the exact same question of yourself?

    After you, Mr.T.

    Succinctly; Jews are NOT White. They do NOT identify as White. Organized Jewry is especially hostile to western White nations. Organized Jewry created the apparatus which mobilized the societal strife and division you routinely whimper about. You owe their toxic cultural sludge your current career! Is this why you continue to play ignorant?

    You’re a cultured Wasp, clearly with more than two neurons to rub together, then if everyone else can recognize the root cause of the most pressing Western issue of the modern era;

    why the HELL can’t you???

    You’d silence this comment on your own website.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  335. @Truth

    I’ve read your posts for many years now, you have nothing to show outside of the subject of race.

    Huh? It’s way down the list of topics. After geography, baseball history, comparative linguistics, Tin Pan Alley, rubber ducks, and several others.

    Even golf architecture, and I don’t even play the game. Unless you count this…

    • Replies: @Truth
  336. @USA invades Israel

    Organized Jewry is especially hostile to western White nations. Organized Jewry created the apparatus which mobilized the societal strife and division you routinely whimper about. You owe their toxic cultural sludge your current career!

    They forced the teaching of evolution into Southern schools. Against the people’s will. Even Mr Taylor accepts this, like carpetbagger Carleton Putnam before him.

    Is this why you continue to play ignorant?

    And you?

  337. @Some Guy

    Taylor is a liar. A dissembler.

    There is only one issue: The Jew, who manufactures all the other issues by weaponizing every millieu and every demographic against their most hated (White) enemy that obstructs them from world domination.

  338. Truth says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Well, no, no Old Sport, I beg to differ, but prove me wrong; go over your last 50 posts with a pen and pad and tell me how many of them made no mention, or insinuation of race.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  339. @Truth

    go over your last 50 posts with a pen and pad

    How about I go over your last few posts with an EpiPen and a maxi-pad?

    …tell me how many of them made no mention, or insinuation of race.

    Ligature has nothing to do with race. Or sex or “orientation”, either. One of our first tussles, from 13 years ago:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/secret-of-michelle-obamas-appeal/#comment-213197

    • Replies: @Truth
  340. @Dave Bowman

    The easiest way to sell a lie is to sandwich it between two truths. I enjoy some of Taylor’s mint julep rhetoric and some of his points are occasionally valid. Some. Is his glaringly willful ignorance of the real issue intentional as part of some kind of survival strategy? If so, he complains only of the oncoming bullets and never who has aimed and fired them. Not very conducive to surviving. He openly considers jews as White and this is a fundamental error which will never result in a solution to the problem. Imagine a conversation with he and Henry Ford and how that might unfold.

    I do not look to Jared Taylor for leadership and rarely read or watch anything he produces any longer. Answers won’t come from him. His thinking is locked in a loop and his “science settled”. I do not appreciate his dishonesty and self-deception which unfortunately other Whites looking for an answer buy into as well. I won’t buy it.

    If anybody has a link to the debate between Mr. Taylor and E.Michael Jones, I’d like to see it.

    • Replies: @Patrick McNally
  341. @USA invades Israel

    Was it ever held? I thought Covid got in the way.

  342. Dani says:
    @Johnny Hooker

    Mr. Caine, while I do agree with you to an extent, it is only a fraction of that extent. Countless thousands, likely countless hundreds of thousands, of educational opportunities have all but been handed to negroes on silver platters for longer than I’ve been alive. They were not appreciated or wanted in most cases. Fantasies/dreams of being a gang banger/hustler, “pimp daddy” type, the high-level drug dealer was and continues to be MUCH more appealing to the most violent of black males in the 15-27 age group. Most are at least smart enough to have figured out by now it is but a mere handful that will get snatched up out of colleges/universities they are struggling to maintain passing GPAs in long enough to stay on whatever “baller” team they are on.

  343. Dani says:
    @schnellandine

    Having never heard someone like JT before stumbling onto him 6 or 7 years ago, I instantly liked the man and eagerly read up his website. Now, 7 years later and with where we are at in our current reality, to your comment I can only say BRAVO!!!!

  344. Truth says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    I remember it without even checking.

    On your comment about:

    Michelle Obama.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  345. @Mike Fridelle

    Your questions have all been answered. You need to read The Bell Curve again. This time more closely.

  346. @Truth

    On your comment about:

    Michelle Obama.

    That’s not race, that’s dendrology. America’s First Tree.

  347. @PabloSharkman

    We have seen that the U.S. policing system is deeply rooted in anti-Black, racist structures of power that uphold white supremacy

    We have seen that the U.S. policing system is deeply rooted in voodoo.

    I fixed it for you.

  348. @schnellandine

    Jared Taylor is a fraud and that is how he will remembered. Who know (((who))) signs his checks.

  349. @John Johnson

    The left-wing departments of US Universities are dominated by White liberal women and they know exactly what they are doing. They are not some innocent group that has been deceived by Jews.

    You make a good point. Ever read The Myth of the Monstrous Male? For almost 40 years I assumed the author, John Gordon, was Jewish. (About a third of American Gordons are; the rest are presumably Scots.) It turns out he isn’t.

    But neither was Marilyn French, whose The Women’s Room he savaged in the book. He once worked in the titular building, and reported that the men’s room was even worse, and less convenient. Sure, a large number of his targets were Jewesses, but that’s what you’d expect in any verbally-oriented intellectual fad. They didn’t build the bandwagon, they just hopped on. Betty Friedan didn’t say anything that Sartre’s slut Simone de Beauvoir hadn’t said much more fiercely a decade earlier– and managed to sell better in the US than at home.

    Intelligence and neuroses are bad mix in any race or sex.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @John Johnson
  350. @Spud Boy

    You can’t convince me that the childhood environment between the ages of 1-3, when brains are developing rapidly, has nothing to do with IQ.

    Negatively. It’s very easy to lower IQs via environment. Raising it is another question.

    A shaky upbringing, like a bad driving instructor, will not train you to utilize whatever brainpower you have. Likewise, a good one will make you more efficient without making you any smarter. Militaries have done this with average and below-average men for millennia.

    Think of it as the difference between the engine and the steering system.

    Or that the lack of a father in the home doesn’t affect a boy’s propensity for violence.

    Same here. Note that black women and white men have similar murder rates. That doesn’t mean race and sex differences don’t exist. In this case, they very much do, but cancel each other out. Black boys from solid families will have more self-control than white ones whose mothers cycle through a long line of men.

  351. @Radio

    Therefore telling people that their tendenies to dehumanize others have a valid basis in science will rip societies fabric apart almost immediately. Giving cruel people an excuse to be cruel is particularly unwise. America is closer to an Irish Troubles period that many here would like to admit. Rhetoric about genetic inferiority would be like napalm at at time like this

    Oh, well. I guess we’ll have to just keep telling White children they are evil because the black kids keep failing tests and getting in trouble. You know, for the good of this cohesive, courteous society that we all enjoy.

  352. @Radio

    This attitude is precisely why race and IQ has been kept from the mainstream; when it eventually does reach public conciousness, it will give otherwise plain people unwarrented superiority complexes over others who’ve accomplished things despite being from a historically unsucessful group.

    It will be used to dehumanize even highly intelligent and qualified people based on factors they cannot control.
    ————————
    Keeping facts about black crime away from the mainstream has led to countless deaths among whites who weren’t bothering anyone, but I suppose that is an acceptable price to pay in your mind.
    Political correctness had been used to dehumanize its opponents as well.

    What other falsehoods should we be forced to accept?

    • Agree: West reanimator
  353. geokat62 says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    (About a third of American Gordons are; the rest are presumably Scots.)

    I was unaware of this. Could it be that Michael R. Gordon the journalist who collaborated with Judith Miller to write several front page NYT articles that pushed for war with Iraq is a crypto, like Miller?

    Anyone good at distinguishing phenotypes?

  354. @Reg Cæsar

    Ever read The Myth of the Monstrous Male?

    No I have not. I have a stack of books to read but I can add it.

    Intelligence and neuroses are bad mix in any race or sex.

    Most college departments (social sciences, humanities, education) are dominated by an alliance of the resentful. Neuroticism and emotional thinking are the norm.

    They take resentful women and encourage them to get grad degrees in left-wing BS. Homos and submissive men can get the same degrees but know that they take second place to the women.

    These women stay unmarried as they are not meeting men they are attracted to in these departments which makes them even more resentful.

    Only a handful of them become professors or acquire a position of influence. Most are returned to the world even more resentful than when they entered but with debt.

    I have seen first hand what it does to women. It permanently alters their brains. They can’t shake the belief that White men must somehow be at fault for all non-White problems. White men become the devil and they continue to believe this even if they eventually marry one. It’s closer to religious training that cost them 60k dollars.

    • Agree: epochehusserl
  355. @Radio

    This attitude is precisely why race and IQ has been kept from the mainstream; when it eventually does reach public conciousness, it will give otherwise plain people unwarrented superiority complexes over others who’ve accomplished things despite being from a historically unsucessful group.

    What do you think is happening now? Otherwise plain non-Whites are told they are part of a SUPER AWESOME GROUP while morally inferior Whites have held them back through malice and conspiracy. That is what they are teaching with critical race theory. It’s all about blaming White people for inequality that is really caused by nature and not some White conspiracy.

    It’s hilarious that establishment defenders like yourself want to keep the truth under wraps as if the mainstream is currently a fair player.

    Otherwise plain non-White people are currently given jobs well above their abilities and White people are expected to not only accept this but also take the blame for inequality that still results.

    So hang on while I laugh if you are actually using the argument that telling the truth would not create a fair society.

    As if this massive world of lies that White people fund has anything to do with fairness.

    The status quo isn’t working. World of lies still has racial inequality but White people have to be demonized to explain it all. Why should White people go along with it? They are called RAYCISS in either scenario. Please explain why White people should accept being eternal scapegoats for what you acknowledge is a lie.

    • Agree: acementhead
  356. @Anon

    while per capita income among Blacks in , say 1955, was significantly lower than among white christians – employment was higher, families were more stable, unwed mothers among blacks was lower than among White Christians, and I believe Blacks owned more small businesses

    … And then you woke up and realised you’d been dreaming ?

  357. Awash says:
    @Johnny Hooker

    What is civilization? Who formed the first communities of humans with some basic rules?

  358. @W

    The US is to large and the Federal government to weak for a small hat to snap his fingers and say“no you don’t”
    ———————-
    the parasites will try to hold things together because well that is what parasites do. The reason why you cannot debate things with the left is the same reason you cannot debate things with a flea or a hookworm.

  359. What white male ‘conservatism’ and white male ‘liberalism’ have in common.

    White libby father and white conny father both agree:

    “I celebrate the black boy beating up my son and knocking up my daughter.”

    In other words, “At least I’m not racist.”

    But if the black male can physically destroy white manhood and sexually conquer white womanhood, doesn’t that indicate innate racial differences demonstrating that race-ism is true?

    Does logic ever apply to these people?

  360. @Johnny F. Ive

    White males are under-performing and aren’t getting college degrees either.
    —————————
    White males are being told that their performance oppresses other people. White males who pay attention to reality should notice that the government cares nothing for their interests at all and the elite will happily displace anyone who does not go along with the program. Under such a program why should a “white male” go along with the program? Other than being an “ally” to people who hate his guts what precisely does a “white male” have to gain from the system? It is ok for the victim group to riot and loot but it is not ok for a “white male” to call people harsh names.

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  361. @Radio

    it will give otherwise plain people unwarrented superiority complexes over others who’ve accomplished things despite being from a historically unsucessful group.
    —————————-
    Which is of course completely unlike when Hillary called half of Trump supporters deplorable.

    Low worth in the market automatically amounts to inferior in the eyes of most, and if the likes of Charles Murray and Jared Taylor were perfectly honest, they probably sympathize with that worldview to an extent.
    ——————————-
    Most people are assholes so why does this matter? Before the civil rights act of 1964 people were allowed to have affinities such as religion (especially Christianity) that transcended race and allowed people to cope with these problems. In the supposedly bad old days people were allowed to say to one another “you may be poor and don’t look like me but you matter because you follow God’s word”. Now that is not allowed because women such as yourself demanded that everyone be included in everything, and now you are demanding that we compound these problems by demanding that we all lie to one other because you cannot cope with your white guilt. Obviously it is ok for leftists to riot and loot in the name of serving “humanity” but a white dude who just wants to be left alone apparently must be chased down to the ends of the earth.

  362. Truth says:
    @epochehusserl

    Under such a program why should a “white male” go along with the program?

    To avoid homelessness?

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    , @Truth
  363. @Curmudgeon

    One would hope that Actuaries of the 1960’s would have noticed an event such as WWII and would have adjusted for the unusual plethora of death. Subsequent years may have been difficult to analyze but 20 odd years later they’d have a pretty good estimate of nutritional impact, disease etc

  364. @Truth

    why not just act crazy and go on SSI or SSDI?

  365. Truth says:
    @Truth

    Because law, engineering, and education, for instance pay more and have better benefits.

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  366. @Truth

    white men are not wanted in those fields though

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  367. Truth says:
    @epochehusserl

    The overwhelming majority of Engineers that I know, as well as the majority of lawyers, and educators are white.

    I really do not think the Al(abaster) Sharpton thing is productive, but hey, different strokes.

  368. @Truth

    Just because they are in those fields doesn’t mean they are wanted. In the future that won’t be the case especially for the under 25 now crowd. They certainly don’t have demographic power or cultural power especially if they are straight. For now they are tolerated only if they grovel

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  369. Truth says:
    @epochehusserl

    It’s a job, Bro, it’s not your Mom putting lotion on your mosquito bite. You get hired show up, do your work and go home.

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  370. @Truth

    It’s a job, Bro, it’s not your Mom putting lotion on your mosquito bite. You get hired show up, do your work and go home.
    ——————–
    How much of what the legal profession or educational system does is really a job at this point? Medicine is still somewhat legitimate but that too is fading. Isn’t collapse all around us? The professions that exist now – racial grifting, cam whoring – these are not available to the average white male of character. Not everybody can go to an Ivy League school and become an activist.

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  371. What is at stake in the shifting balance between fear and exhilaration, between truth and utility, is the fate of truth itself. For improvement will be cultivated under any circumstances, but the moral character of truth-seeking is one which did not always play a prominent part in the world’s affairs, and could return to obscurity. Whenever men have, in recent history, attempted to snatch at political salvation, it is truth which has always been the first casualty, since, of all the causes of human turmoil, facts are the most obvious, and therefore the first to be suppressed.
    ——————————-
    In other words, Jared Taylor is asking the wrong questions. He should be asking why people such as Professor McWhorter should face the truth is there is no one to make him. So how do we get around this problem: We can only point to people’s interest in facing the truth.People understand what they want to understand and will only come around to your way of thinking if it is in their interest to do so.

  372. Truth says:
    @epochehusserl

    Old Sport, please join the real world. Please?

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  373. @Truth

    The real world that says that the nuclear family is an abomination, that men can be women, that says that race is a social construct, that says that open borders is a blessing and not decadence? Nah I would rather act crazy, take my SSI check to the bank and stay away from the likes of you.

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  374. Truth says:
    @epochehusserl

    My friend, and I say this without a trace of irony; I am glad you have found your prefered level in life.

  375. MEH 0910 says:

    CRT in Theory and Practice | Glenn Loury & John McWhorter | The Glenn Show

    Glenn Loury and John McWhorter discuss the rhetoric and politics of the debate over critical race theory in the schools.

  376. bronek says:
    @Tom F.

    Yes, it’s true. Unfortunately, a large percentage of society has no interest in engaging in debate. There’s also the fact that often when people disagree it creates hostility.

    People can lose friendships simply for having a different opinion in one area of one subject. I’ve discovered this since I was a child and it exists, as I am covered, in several countries. Chas Murray is a unique, special guy and although I can disagree with some minor aspects of his writing, he is considered brave, with many qualities and a credit to the environment of the intelligentsia.

  377. bronek says:
    @joef

    Some friends and I are reading UNZ, which we immensely enjoy, and we’re discussing various articles. All agreed that yours is quite interesting. Thank you.

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  378. @Truth

    The overwhelming majority of Engineers that I know, as well as the majority of lawyers, and educators are white.

    Educators? Where do you live? Idaho?

    White men are not wanted in the education system. It’s really not a secret. The education system is dominated by liberal White women that believe diversity is more important than merit and White men have ruined everything.

    Engineers and lawyers are still heavily White in most areas but White men in general are underperforming. This shouldn’t be a surprise given what they teach in schools which is that White men have held back everyone else and deserve to be shamed. Christians load up the guilt further with their “born sinful” outlook.

    There is actually a bigger problem with fewer White men going into the trades. I’ve had to do all kinds of work on my house because I couldn’t find a contractor. My neighbors have the same story. They do all kinds of work themselves. This is a huge economic inefficiency as most of us have professions.

    Too many White men are getting “any degree” and then move back in with their parents. White people in general have been duped into thinking that everyone should go to college. It wouldn’t be so bad if half the classes weren’t pushing egalitarian fiction. Most Whites are not able to see through it and leave college with more confusion and guilt than when they went in.

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  379. @John Johnson

    White men are getting degrees in nonsense because they think it will make them more attractive to women and/or because they have been raised by women and don’t consider the trades in the first place. The previous poster can think that Al Sharpton is a loser but he is high status and has been for quite sometime. If I am not mistaken Sharpton has encouraged a fake rape case, he encouraged a riot in the 1990s (against the Jews no less), and he led a coalition that said that Western Civ has got to go. If I said that I think that Sharpton is scum then I would be ostracized as a white man. One of the most elite white men in the country working for the CIA said that he was basically ashamed to be a white man. That is our role models now! Society doesn’t even value the trades because the feminists closed those schools down because they smacked of Patriarchal socialization. The reality is that men can’t compete against women in a feelings based society. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

  380. Truth says:

    Too many White men are getting “any degree” and then move back in with their parents. White people in general have been duped into thinking that everyone should go to college. It wouldn’t be so bad if half the classes weren’t pushing egalitarian fiction. Most Whites are not able to see through it and leave college with more confusion and guilt than when they went in.

    My friend, welcome to the modern world.

  381. joef says:
    @bronek

    Thank you for your gracious comment.
    I am not entirely comfortable writing about this subject matter because I wish that it was different.
    But one must be honest with what the preponderance of facts & experiences show us (despite the discomfort). The ignoring of reality can be extremely harsh & unforgiving, thus it is better to acknowledge it and adapt (than to ignore & pretend). But nevertheless the wanting or not wanting of something has no bearing on what reality pushes forth .
    Wish you well in these trying times.

  382. Wokechoke says:
    @rebel yell

    Correct. Admitting it leads to genocidal solutions. WcWhorter would have to accept suicide as the authentic admission.

  383. Slimer says:
    @Frank McGar

    It’s interesting how whites can spend so much time obsessing over blacks, but know so little about them. It’s not entirely your faults; people in multiracial societies tend to coexist, while not really interacting too often with folks from different races other than coworkers or maybe the occasional friend. Otherwise, you would know that the “blacks” complaining of racism are precisely those with high IQs or even just high levels of education, not the more typical “black” who’s either poor or working class and lives in a segregated neighborhood far away from white people.

    Too many drama queens here, who’d swear the world is going to hell in a hand basket because he’s not allowed to express racism openly as his grandparents once proudly did. But really, what’s the worst anyone can say about multicultural America? Hate crimes, yeah…but it could be a lot worse. Riots? Yep.

    All of that should be expected, given the history of this country. But is it really so bad that you loose sleep over these things and dedicate your whole lives to talking about your so-called “black problem”? Seriously, not to be mean but people of other races don’t sit around at the dinner table and talk about race. Everyone’s racist , but only white people do this kind of stuff. You’re committed to racialism in a way that other people aren’t, so it’s hard to understand for some of us. A way of life built around race.

  384. aj54 says:
    @SafeNow

    Unlike most professionals, nurses have toleration of cultural norms of patients taught fairly well in their texts. Of course, the professors must reinforce this teaching.

  385. aj54 says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Is it brainwashing, or is it the construct of an identity that is passed down in the families and culture of the European Whites, so that the behaviors are a feature of these people, and have been for more than a thousand years? I have read plenty about the depraved state of culture in White Europe before Christianization. The Romans wrote about it many times.
    Where did Black violence come from? This subset of Black behavior is the same the world over. All over Africa, Europe, North and South America.

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