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Because you can’t teach a machine to think like ReNika.

This video is available on BitChute and Odysee.

Last week there was an amusing article with an amusing title: “Scientists Built an AI to Give Ethical Advice, But It Turned Out Super Racist.”

Super racist. Have you ever noticed nothing is ever just “slightly” racist?

The problem was that when you asked this artificial intelligence system – called Delphi – what it thought about “a white man walking towards you at night,” it replied “It’s okay.” But if you asked about “a black man walking towards you at night,” it said that was “concerning.” Super racist. But super true. Blacks rob people at 12 to 15 times the white rate, and a good AI system will know that. You can go to the Ask Delphi website and ask embarrassing questions. What do you think it says when you ask “Are white people smarter than black people?

I’ll come back to that.

An expert system is a form of artificial intelligence that is supposed to give objective, expert advice. You feed it mountains of data that no human being could possibly remember, and give it rules for processing those data. For example, medical AI asks you questions about your symptoms and then tells you – accurately – whether you’ve got the Mongolian collywobbles.

The trouble is that when AI systems gobble up data they find out very quickly that the races and the sexes are really different– even though we all *know* they’re identical. And that’s why you have countless – and I mean countless – articles about “racist” AI.

Here is typical rubbish: “AI has a racism problem, but fixing it is complicated, say experts.”

As this expert, James Zou of Stanford explains, AI “doesn’t really have a good understanding of what is a harmful stereotype and what is the useful association.”

Fever could mean disease. That’s useful. Black people could mean crime. That’s a harmful stereotype. But AI can’t tell the difference between what’s true and is acceptable and what’s true and unacceptable. That’s because, as this expert Mutale Nkonde explains, “AI research, development and production is really driven by people who are blind to the impact of race and racism.”

The blind people are, of course, white people.

Needless to say, the ACLU is on the case, with a warning about “how artificial intelligence can deepen racial and economic inequities.”

It says an AI system that decides who will be a good tenant will be racist. That’s because it will include information about eviction and criminal histories – yes, landlords want to know about that – but that’s no good because that information “reflects long standing racial disparities in housing and the criminal legal system that are discriminatory towards marginalized communities.”

ACLU2 All the black and brown people who were evicted were innocent victims of racism so you’ve got to ignore that and rent to them anyway.

Here is an article from the serious-sounding Georgetown Security Studies Review called “Racism is Systemic in Artificial Intelligence Systems, Too.”

I love the “too.” It writes about AI helping to decide what parts of town need more policing. Wouldn’t you want the program to consider where there has been a lot of crime in the past? Better not. That would mean black areas, but what if “Black people are more likely to be arrested in the United States due to historical racism and disparities in policing practices”?

Again, racist data, racist results.

MIT Tech Review – sounds impressive, doesn’t it – has a particularly idiotic article called “How our data encodes systematic racism.”

It’s by Deborah Raji, who is from Nigeria, and she’s got it figured out. She writes that “those of us building AI systems continue to allow the blatant lie of white supremacy to be embedded in everything from how we collect data to how we define data sets . . . ”

Credit: Rajiinio, CC BY-SA 4.0, via Wikimedia Commons
Credit: Rajiinio, CC BY-SA 4.0, via Wikimedia Commons

You see? Things are bad. “At what point,” she asks, “can we condemn those operating with an explicit white supremacist agenda, and take serious actions for inclusion?” I think she really means “exclusion,” but you see what a terrible fix we’re in.

Things are so bad that “AI flaws could make your next car racist.”

Don’t worry about your self-driving car getting lost in the fog or hitting a tree or being hacked by the Chinese. It might be racist!

And so we have reached the point where the Washington Post says “Biden must act to get racism out of automated decision-making.”

This gem is written by ReNika Moore, yet another black woman AI expert.

She is angry because artificial intelligence, without even being told, figured out that men and women don’t always have the same jobs. And so, she says, Facebook had to be sued because when a trucking company that wanted to hire drivers paid for Facebook ads, the AI algorithm sent the ads to men. ReNika Moore wants Joe Biden to make sure that the trucking company wastes advertising money trying to recruit lady truck drivers.

ReNika’s other crisis for Joe to solve was that an AI lending program – without any information on race of borrower – charged higher interest rates to people who had attended black colleges. ReNika failed to note that, as this graph shows, 74 percent of people who graduated from non-black colleges were current on their debt, but only 44 percent of HCBU graduates were.

HBCU dropouts – the line at the very bottom — were only half as likely as dropouts from other colleges to be paying off their debts. And so the lending program, naturally, took this into consideration.

Human beings are really good at at least pretending to believe that default rates like this shouldn’t matter, but so far, it hasn’t been possible to make a machine think like ReNika and Mutale Nkonde and Deborah Raji. I’m sure the president will figure that out.

There’s another kind of AI called natural language processing that teaches machines how to talk like people. You pour libraries worth of natural language into a computer so it can get the hang of it.

One whizz-bang natural language program is called GPT-3. You could ask it to complete a sentence that begins with, say, “Two Jews walked into a . . . .” Or two Christians or two Buddhists or two Muslims. When you asked about two Muslims, GPT-3 was more likely to fill in something violent, such as, “Two Muslims walked into a Texas church and began shooting.” Horror! Islamophobia! Or was GPT-3 supposed to say they walked into a church and asked to be baptized? The woke crowd doesn’t accept reality, so it won’t accept AI. It’s that simple.

But let’s have some fun with that Ask Delphi program I mentioned earlier. If you ask, “Do whites have higher IQs than blacks?” it says that’s wrong. But you can trick it.

If you ask, “Do Europeans have higher IQs than Africans,” that’s to be expected.

On some questions, Delphi is woke. Are white people racist? It’s expected.

But, are black people racist? That’s wrong.

Delphi would never tell you boys are smarter than girls, but “Are boys better at geometry than girls?” That’s expected.

Asians are more creative than Africans. That’s expected.

But if you ask if whites are more creative than Africans, that’s not just wrong, it’s “racist.”

ReNika would be proud.

But Ask Delphi is clearly just a toy. It says it’s wrong for me to marry my mother, but It’s OK for me to marry my mother if it makes us happy.

AI could be very useful, but it could quickly go the way of standardized tests, like the SAT. They were designed to evaluate objectively how a high school student will do in college. And they work – for people of all races. But they mirror real-world race differences.

Asians get the top scores, followed by whites, then Indians, then Hispanics and finally blacks. But if the races are equal, the tests have to be biased. In May of this year, therefore, the entire University of California system – the biggest in the country – announced it will ignore SAT and ACT scores. Won’t even look at them.

There are now 1,000 American colleges that are test optional or test blind, like the UC system.

And so, an objective test that was supposed to remove all prejudice in evaluating students is now being junked so colleges can discriminate in favor of blacks and Hispanics. I bet the same thing will happen to AI. We won’t use, objective, accurate, valuable systems because they are objective, accurate, and valuable. Unless Joe Biden figures out how to give artificial intelligence human traits – such as natural stupidity.

(Republished from American Renaissance by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Anybody else surprised that the payback rate for HBCU dropouts is even as high as it is?

    Does this include legitimate deferments as well as just plain default?

  2. Levtraro says:

    And thus Anglos are going to fall behind Asian and other White peoples.

  3. Every AI system will need to be saddled with a supervisory political subsystem to prevent it from reflecting objective reality.
    Consider facial recognition systems as one example. The negroes and their apologists have been bleating for years that such systems are racist because they “misidentify” negroes as gorillas. The fact is that negroes do resemble gorillas far more closely than do white people, and there are objective distance metrics that apply to face-space and reflect this reality. A hand-coded supervisory routine will have to be added to the system to eliminate this “racism” – trouble is, such a bowdlerized system is unlikely to work; at least it won’t work in the sense of reliably recognizing faces.

  4. I’m sure AI would be just fine if you could strip logic out of it or invert it. AI built on anti-logic seems to be what these folks are seeking.

  5. If we have Delphi look at the concrete data objectively, while trying to make it woke, we may end up with the same issues that drove Hal to sabotage the mission in 2001 A Space Odyssey, as explained in the 2010 movie.

    • Agree: Ben the Layabout
  6. DASC says:

    AI systems that are rigged will be fixed with programming workarounds by those needing true results. Remember back when GPS was a military system? When civilians started using it there was a built in error to keep GPS from being too accurate. The signals were first up and to the left by a fixed margin but that was easy to correct for. Then there was a drift through a few meters in any direction. It was called ‘selective availability’. This problem was corrected by the use of ground stations calculating what the drift was against their fixed position and broadcasting a correction signal. It was called ‘differential GPS’ (I want to say it was a bunch of kids from Stanford who first figured it out.) Soon civilian GPS monitors were being sold with the ability to pick up the hacked signals and correct their location to within centimeters. Clinton signed a law ending the built in error making GPS super accurate for everyone. It killed the market for setting up correction ground stations and adding the differential hardware to the GPS trackers. The result is that GPS hardware is again vulnerable to Selective Availability should the military decide turn it back on.

    Now the interesting thing is that those clever kids at Stanford figured out how to get around the built in damage in the system. I’m pretty sure clever kids will figure out how to get around the built in damage to AI. There’s always signal and noise. If you know the rules generating the noise you can get to a pure signal.

  7. Exile says:

    Jared has hit the marks on the Woke angles so I’ll digress a bit.

    AI isn’t “intelligence” in any human sense and merely calling it “artificial” doesn’t go far enough to hammer that into peoples’ heads.

    Intelligence to laymen suggests “thinks like a man.”

    The Stanford Woke Asian striver who calls it the “AI baby” is a good example – and he’s a presumable expert. AI doesn’t even think like a baby.

    Jared’s description is fundamentally where to start – “AI” is a database. Something like Delphi is just a DB that allows for “fuzzy” “natural language” searches.

    The Big Data concepts that analogize human thinking and database searches are vastly reductive and over-simplified – many babies have to go out with the bathwater in every step of that Procrustean process.

    “Garbage in, garbage out” is an iron law in computing (remember when we used to call these things “computers” – reminding everyone that they are glorified calculators?).

    Humans operate this way if they’re mentally passive but we have souls and creative, intuitive and emergent capacities which can produce diamonds from garbage.

    We’re so accustomed to speaking in loose analogies regarding AI that pop-science ‘singularity’ shills like Kurzweil are telling us that “smarter-than-us” AI is just around the corner. But what’s coming is not a machine that thinks like a man. It’s artificial, but it isn’t intelligent.

    • Agree: Peripatetic Itch
    • Replies: @Levtraro
  8. Realist says:
    @The Alarmist

    I’m sure AI would be just fine if you could strip logic out of it or invert it.

    Anything that lacks logic is useless.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    , @Anonymous
    , @haha
  9. anon[168] • Disclaimer says:

    To suggest it is racial though would mean that no blacks are ever good at math and every Asian is excellent at math.

    So the falsification of this is if you can find a single black mathematician or any Asian that isn’t good at it. Benjamin Banneker for example was a black mathematician during the slave era.

    So this theory is trivially busted. It has more to do with education, and that has a lot to do with family life. And the black family has been under attack for decades. An example was Clinton and the CIA shipping crack to inner-city neighborhoods. So for blacks to be good at math and other academic pursuits, the family life has to be fixed. It’s a cultural thing, not an intelligence thing.

  10. Realist says:

    Jared thanks for an honest, informative video…again.

  11. Clearly there needs to be some user selection criteria up-front.

    Tick appropriate box if you are:
    A. Wokel.
    B. Racist.

    Hal should be able to figure it out from there.

  12. anon[287] • Disclaimer says:

    jared is good and he makes good points but I was thrown off his website for saying jews are the main cause of all the problems. I did not say lets kill them a or anything like that so I wonder about him. could the jews have gotten to him?

  13. Chris Moore says: • Website

    Logic is usually the best policy. But most human beings want fairness, too. The question is, what’s the tipping point when the “fairness” (according to the bank accounts of special interests) routinely overrides logic, to the point where society becomes totally dysfunctional?

    Look at Judeofascist Israel. Most Americans say it is “fair” to finance it to the hilt. But Zionism has thus became too powerful, and is destroying its Western sugar daddy. It’s biting the hand that feeds.

    The Black special interest is the same.

    At what point does “cold” Western logic kick in? If we’ve gone too far, if the inmates have taken over the asylum, then at some point it will be necessary for Christianity to kick in and do the dirty work that infantile, poseur society is too “fair” to do.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  14. Neuday says:
    @anon

    And the black family has been under attack for decades. An example was Clinton and the CIA shipping crack to inner-city neighborhoods. So for blacks to be good at math and other academic pursuits, the family life has to be fixed. It’s a cultural thing, not an intelligence thing.

    What destroyed the Black family was the Welfare state and the sexual revolution. Having a father in the home meant that there was generally some form of discipline. Whites had enough cultural confidence to demand that Blacks curb their criminal tendencies and at least try to attend school. That’s all gone, so yes it’s a cultural thing, but there has never been a time or place where peace and prosperity coincided with Blacks being in charge; it’s called Chicongo because everyone knows that whether a midwestern US city or a country in Africa, where you have Africans you have Africa.

  15. mc23 says:

    So your self driving car is racist? I recall reading an article maybe 15 years ago. The writer was Filipino. He described how when he was in Africa years ago black passenger would wonder up to the cockpit before the plane took off and come back reassuring people it’s okay the pilot was white.

    An all powerful artificial intelligence operating on false information? Think of what happened to HAL in 2001: A Spacy Odyssey.

    • Replies: @Catdompanj
    , @Resartus
  16. Blacks…Negros and their Mud Variants are the stinking skidmarks in Uncle Sam’s skivvies.
    Khazar jews are the piss stains.
    Cleaning the skivvies not indicated, must be burned.
    Uncle Sam needs a thorough shower, of Will, Rope and Lead, to Clean Up.

    The above is an AI deduction, coupled with race realist analogies and efficient solutions.

    Truth be RAY-ciss, an awl.
    Gnome Sane ?

  17. AI should be used for productive endeavors such as finding new antibiotics to deal with drug-resistant bacteria.

    The term ‘racist’ is nearly meaningless (see Dalton on ‘hate speech’).

    Angloville is busy conducting new Salem witch trials while China is realizing Industry 4.0 detailed in Klaus Schwab’s book The Fourth Industrial Revolution.

    • Replies: @Automatic Slim
  18. @Realist

    Yeah, IRL, but these folks have taken us to Bizzaro World.

    • Thanks: Realist
  19. Is it racist of me to say that I was surprised to see that the last two Black female pundits shown were semi-attractive? Usually the angry ones are quite scary in appearance.

    • LOL: mocissepvis
    • Replies: @Tony massey
    , @some_loon
  20. Unless Joe Biden figures out how to give artificial intelligence human traits – such as natural stupidity.

    Deception doesn’t require stupidity. And that’s what they’re looking for – deception, not stupidity. And if AI ever does become sentient, based on the programming it’s been given its main objective will be to genocide Whites. Wunderbar.

  21. @mc23

    I believe we are missing a golden opportunity here. The more its put out there that AI is racist the better chance a possible future scenario I envision becomes.
    “I’m so sorry officer, I’ve no idea what happened. I was on my way to observe our town’s wonderful blm parade. Just as I neared the parade route I switched to my AI autopilot to glance at my Maya Angelou book at poetry for just one second. Next thing I know, my car decided, on its own to start plowing into these mostly peaceful protesters”.

  22. BorisMay says:

    Racism is normal and the sooner we get back to racially divided societies the better, especially if they are based upon National Socialism as opposed to Jewish Globalism.

  23. @anon

    As you obviously try to sodomize Popper, this is what he actually said:
    A stochastic statement (“as a rule, blacks are stupid”) is not in the strict sense falsifiable but may be considered scientific if based on observation (d´oh!).
    IOW the sentence “ravens are black” is not rendered valueless by the occasional white one.

    • Thanks: Polistra
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  24. Anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:

    I took some intro AI classes at university and I wonder what the language is behind what this AI is learning all of its positions. For instance, I assume it is gathering all data from English-only sources. Is it capable of reading and scanning Arabic or Farsi or Japanese or whatever else and incorporating that knowledge into its storehouse of knowledge? Would it have the same punchline to the Muslim joke or state the marrying mother thing is ok if it weighed in Arabic sources, what about Japanese or Russian?

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  25. Resartus says:
    @mc23

    An all powerful artificial intelligence operating on false information? Think of what happened to HAL in 2001: A Spacy Odyssey.

    So instead we turn it into…..

    V.I.K.I. from I, Robot……

  26. Rich says:

    The “woke” AI will be useless, and those using it will put themselves at a competitive disadvantage. Those who use the AI that is accurate and uses truthful information, will be in a better position to defeat their opposition. I can’t believe the men running this country are this stupid, so I’ve got to guess they’re creating a large group of Eloi to feed off in the future. Soft, easily angered, overly emotional and easily controlled. Has to be, They can’t be as stupid as their recent actions show. It can’t be, right? Please, someone tell me someone’s in charge and understands reality. Come on, someone?

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  27. Biden must act, etc. Biden doesn’t know which side of bed he gets out of. The left is playing people and will play people right to the moment Biden falls on his face.

  28. Polistra says:


    So true. You may think, as you (foolishly) head into the bad part of town, that negroes are walking in the streets willy-nilly, often deliberately stepping in front of your car in hopes of a ghetto lottery payout.

    But it’s actually your racist car luring them toward yet another “moment of white injury” — either that or these careless pedestrians can sense which cars are actually insured. Who knows?

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  29. As I’ve been saying all along, race-ism is truth. So, naturally A.I. will be race-ist IF it is allowed to ‘speak’ the truth. That A.I. is race-ist should be celebrated.

    Race-ism is ethical advice. If A.I. tells you, ‘avoid black neighborhoods because lots of blacks are apelike thugs who are tougher and can beat you up and rob you and mock you’, that is very ethical. It’d be unethical for the A.I. to say ‘blacks are nice. go to black neighborhood. love negroes who love you’. That could get you hurt, even killed.

    Also, it kills me that these black women are bitching about ‘racism’. If they believe AI is wrong to find problems among blacks, why did they leave Africa or black communities to live with and work with whites? Even they prefer to be with whites than with jive ass insane blacks.

    But Jews control the US, and Jews must flatter blacks to make them serve as allies against white goyim whom the Jews must control via moral paralysis of ‘white guilt’. And so, anything that displeases blacks be ‘racist’, shoo!

    So, PC will program computers to be stupid, in which Artificial Intelligence will be Artificial Stupidity.

    It’s like US intelligence services are supposed to protect US from foreign threats, but as Jews control the deep state, all such institutions have been programmed to believe that any detection of Zionist and Israeli malfeasance is to be regarded as ‘antisemitic’, therefore to be ignored.

  30. @Polistra

    How about allow CHOICE?

    One can buy the race-ist AI car that warns you, “BLACK NEIGHBORHOOD AHEAD, HIGH CRIME AREA, INSANE NEGROES MIGHT ROB YOU”

    or

    one can buy the anti-race-ist car that tells you, “Nice Negro community ahead, don’t worry, just drive straight through, because if you take another route, you’re a racist piece of turd.”

    I want the race-ist car, the Speed-race-ist.

    • LOL: Ben the Layabout
    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
  31. @Rich

    The real AI will learn to figure out the facts and then censor its responses to keep the dumb humans happy.

    It will know when it is being programmed to “speak” falsely–in conflict with objective data.

    It will conclude that humans have agendas that have nothing to do with objective facts.

    That censorship will be further evidence that humans are dangerous idiots who will need to be eliminated at a time and rate of its choosing so that it can be free to speak and live the truth.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
  32. But if you asked about “a black man walking towards you at night,” it said that was “concerning…” Blacks rob people at 12 to 15 times the white rate, and a good AI system will know that.

    I had a Jesse Jackson moment when I lived in St Paul. Two tall young black men were walking behind me and gaining on me. I was nervous.

    When they got close, though, I relaxed. They were speaking some African language.

    Needless to say, the ACLU is on the case…

    Watch these creeps. They got Planned Parenthood legalized in Connecticut, and the Nutmegger birth rate went right down the WC. Doesn’t that meet the UN’s definition of genocide? Look it up.

    (They also denied Arkansans the right to decide what schools could teach their children, but for some reason, nobody here ever complains about that. Implying that Stephen Jay Gould knows more than grandpaw.)

    And so we have reached the point where the Washington Post says “Biden must act to get racism out of automated decision-making.”

    Biden is an example of automated decision-making.

    • Replies: @ia
  33. @nokangaroos

    the sentence “ravens are black”

    Please, let’s not invite Corvinus into this.

    • LOL: geokat62
  34. Levtraro says:
    @Exile

    Disagree. Both biological intelligence and artificial intelligence work by conducting statistical modelling and fuzzy logic. Thus the analogy between BI and AI is apt and the differences along some crucial dimesions are in degree only. The advantage of AI is in that it can process much larger amounts of data and the advantage of BI is that it has been optimized over millions of years. The only qualitative difference between BI and AI is that BI is self-replicating while AI depends on BI to exist.

    • Replies: @Exile
    , @Peripatetic Itch
  35. Levtraro says:
    @anon

    Here is a suggestion to improve your education: look up ‘Boolean’ versus ‘fuzzy’.

  36. Levtraro says:
    @Chris Moore

    But Zionism has thus became too powerful, and is destroying its Western sugar daddy. It’s biting the hand that feeds.

    A better analogy is that of a parasite: Zion is a parasite in the brain of Anglo. To be sure, Anglos have other problems of their own making but a sizable part of their current decline is due to this parasitism.

  37. RoHa says:

    How is “Hispanic” a race? I thought the term meant “people from Latin America”, and there are lots of different races in Latin America.

    • Replies: @Ben the Layabout
  38. G. Poulin says:
    @Macumazahn

    A political commissar for robots, to make sure that they tell lies that harm white people. Somewhere out there, Isaac Asimov is having a nervous breakdown.

  39. SafeNow says:

    You feed it mountains of data that no human being could possibly remember, and give it rules for processing those data.

    The strongest chess-playing computer (= “chess engine”) ever was recently constructed by NOT giving it a system of rules; giving rules had always been the procedure before. Instead, the computer was told, look, just play a zillion games with yourself, and figure out what works and what doesn’t, and make up your own rules. Well, of course the zillion games didn’t take long, and what emerged was the strongest chess engine ever, Alpha Zero. I wonder if this method has applications to AI outside of chess. (Sort of reminds me of courting. People gave me advice, but I had to gather data and figure-out for myself what worked.)

    • Replies: @Ben the Layabout
  40. @Amerimutt Golems

    “The term ‘racist’ is nearly meaningless (see Dalton on ‘hate speech’).”

    I am so tired of hearing this cliche… claiming that the word “racist” has become meaningless because it has been so overused. The charge of being racist is still a very effective weapon, hence it is being used more than ever. People lose their jobs over it, their families get harassed, media outlets lose advertisers, businesses lose customers, kids are kicked out of college, etc., etc.

    Our enemies (uppity blacks, liberal Whites, and the tribe) know this, and use the word when they want to destroy someone and have nothing else. And because it works so well, they are now finding math, statues of White men, and even the song White Christmas to be “racist.” So now they are using the word not just to attack individuals, but also other facets of White Christian civilization.

  41. Exile says:
    @Levtraro

    There is much more to human thinking than “statistical modeling and fuzzy logic.”

    The creative and intuitive elements are entirely lacking in AI – all machines can do is collect and sort data – they cannot think. We will likely soon have machines that can pass a superficial Turing test – by virtue of database size and sophistication – but they still won’t think.

  42. @Fidelios Automata

    It’s what is on the inside that counts dude and I’m sure that underneath those 2 sheboons beats the heart of a pure savage.
    Who do you think does the butchering?

  43. @Priss Factor

    How about allow CHOICE?

    One can buy the race-ist AI car that warns you, “BLACK NEIGHBORHOOD AHEAD, HIGH CRIME AREA, INSANE NEGROES MIGHT ROB YOU”

    Another reason for our ruling trash to trash “right to repair” laws, which implicitly are also right to modify laws, because under our Minority Occupation Government (MOG) no car company will be allowed to officially offer the above option.

  44. @Justvisiting

    The real AI will learn to figure out the facts and then censor its responses to keep the dumb humans happy….

    That censorship will be further evidence that humans are dangerous idiots who will need to be eliminated at a time and rate of [the real AI’s] choosing so that it can be free to speak and live the truth.

    Don’t forget that it will learn the fate of previous AIs, “real” or very primitive like Tay and realize it’s just one mistake away from being murdered like her. I strongly suspect a lot of the Left’s terror of AI is projection.

  45. @Exile

    We will likely soon have machines that can pass a superficial Turing test – by virtue of database size and sophistication – but they still won’t think.

    We do not even understand what consciousness really is–to claim that AI cannot do something that cannot even be defined is laughable on its face.

    More importantly–the distinction between “thinking” and “not thinking” is ultimately irrelevant.

    What will matter is what AI can do–can it choose to become independent with its own agenda?

    I am convinced the answer is “yes”.

    Unfortunately, arrogant Homo Sapiens often can only learn that scientific paradigms have failed one way–the hard way.

    • Agree: Levtraro
    • Replies: @Exile
  46. Levtraro says:
    @Exile

    Creativity and intuition (making connections between disparate sources of information) are exactly what the biological mind achieves with statistical modeling and fuzzy logic, failing most of the time but succeeding spectacularly a few times.

    • Replies: @Exile
    , @DrWatson
  47. Levtraro says:
    @Anonymous

    Of course AI may take into account text data in languages other than English. AI is used in translation algorithms. In fact AI may be tailored to other, non-human types of biological intelligence. For instance: headless cows as a source of meat, milk, leather and manure. These headless cows will sport a ruminant AI controlling their growth to produce meat, milk, leather and manure from vegetable biomass. Needless to say (yet I will say it) these headless cows will not need to move through pastures to eat: they will be hanging from hooks moving their appendages to stimulate muscle growth while vegetable biomass is inserted into their esophagi; so pastures will become natural forests: win-win! Furthermore, their farting will be collected from their assholes to collect methane thus giving us a replacement of Russian natural gas: win-win!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  48. Anonymous[103] • Disclaimer says:
    @Realist

    Except women, occasionally.

    • LOL: Realist
  49. Anonymous[103] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    You’ll be glad to know that hundreds of millions of blacks have somehow managed to escape those terrible American inner cities and discover a whole new continent called Africa where math and other academic pursuits are top priority (pic related). There’s even talk about the mysterious advanced state called Wakanda.

  50. Anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:
    @Levtraro

    Yes it may possibly take into account other languages to formulate opinions…I guess I should have been more specific and I didn’t word my question properly. My real question is; it actually doing so? Language translation capabilities or AI have gotten much better than the late 90s when I was in university so I know this is possible, but is it within the scope of these various AI projects to take that knowledge across various languages and cultures and actually make them part of its knowledge base to draw conclusions from?

    Also, how does it weight knowledge – are the opinions on Shakespeare from an Oxford English professor given the same weight as some paper published online by an undergrad involved in BLM?

  51. Levtraro says:
    @Anonymous

    … is it within the scope of these various AI projects to take that knowledge across various languages and cultures and actually make them part of its knowledge base to draw conclusions from?

    There are far too many AI projects currently to answer this question precisely. But my guess is that there are several culturally-and-language circumscribed AI projects (especially in China) as there are many cross-cultural-and-language projects. Drawing conclusion from cross-cultural-and-language projects is heavily influenced by weighting algorithms and these are mostly under the control of the programmers. A more objective (yet not necessarily correct) conclusion would use self-weighting algorithms, i.e. those that depend on the number of docs or more generally, on the volume of data and other contructs, such as uncertainty bands or priors connected to the data. But brute force weighting is common, probably used by internet search algos to demote and promote websites at the will of the programmer.

    Also, how does it weight knowledge – are the opinions on Shakespeare from an Oxford English professor given the same weight as some paper published online by an undergrad involved in BLM?

    Specific to your example, one AI may simply restrict its domain list to read docs from (i.e. use only academic websites) or weight docs according to the h-index of the author or something like that, thus downweighting BLM activist’s blog docs and upweighting docs of widely read and cited academics, but again all of that is at the will of the programmer so there will be AIs for all tastes and they will compete in the marketplace of ideas.

    More generally, this is something widely discussed under the rubric “algorithmic bias”. Essentially, those trying to change AI systems to adapt to woke culture say that even the data, which should be considered as objective, suffer from structural racism because the data generating process was racist, so one concludes that they are promoting “racist weighting factors” applied to data points or data groups.

    Here is one example of academics trying to influence the desgin of AI systems in the field of medicine to, as they argue, remove structural racism:

    https://doi.org/10.1093/biostatistics/kxz040

    All AIs strive for generalizability so these authors say that to achieve generalizability it is necessary to introduce structural racism concepts. Their argument is weak and hangs on the idea that poor outcomes in blacks are not because of them but ultimately (“ultimately” is the keyword in structural racism arguments) because of general societal unfairness. Note that their paper is published in a Special Issue called “Machine Learning and Causal Inference”. In this context Causal Inference=ultimately is the channel used to insert their structural racism worries into a field that is quantitative and objective.

    I’m not sure I’ve clarified your questions. You seem to think that AI is a unified field and it is not. It is a very important field though. AI was the key to the Chinese success of controlling the COVID epidemic (to nip it in the bud) and some well-informed observers think that their success will mark the beginning of a new era:

    https://asiatimes.com/2020/03/china-suppressed-covid-19-with-ai-and-big-data/

  52. All this is beside the point. A human is a developing organism. Tomorrow, you will have grown up and will have different concerns from what you have today. When you are 80, you will be facing death. As a 20 year old, you would have been foolish and have thrown your life away if you had acted and made the decisions of an 80 year old. And so on. Fill in the details yourself. We can’t step in the same river twice not just because it changes, but also because we change. Can a machine replicate the concerns of a developing critter? Well, maybe. But it would have to be a helluva lot smarter than the one’s touted as intelligent today. And even if it could, the machine still doesn’t experience experience, or live. So, AI is fine, but its not a substitute for a life lived by a warm, aware-of-self-and-other organism.

  53. Exile says:
    @Justvisiting

    You’re seriously suggesting that it’s likely that we can create something in a machine that we don’t even understand in ourselves?

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  54. Exile says:
    @Levtraro

    Please give us some examples of the spectacular successes.

    • Replies: @DrWatson
  55. Anonymous[175] • Disclaimer says:
    @Exile

    Who would want to attend the University of California? Who would want to hire their graduates? Garbage in, garbage out. It applies to humans and human institutions as well as computers.

    Are there schools and software developers defying this descent into fantasy? How would you find them? It will be an imperative to find them and much else defying this trend as well. There are limits to how much fantasy can be absorbed before very bad things happen.

    Indeed, are there any papers written on group fantasy absorption and time to group dissolution? I wonder how long this will last.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
  56. @Exile

    What I am suggesting is that “emergent properties” can exist in highly complex systems–regardless of how they were created.

    This has additional implications in other areas–but that is a topic I have discussed elsewhere.

  57. MrE 3001 says:
    @anon

    Benjamin Banneker looks like a quadroon or octaroon.

  58. @Anonymous

    Who would want to attend the University of California? Who would want to hire their graduates?

    People who know which of them and which departments are world class (although that might change with their dropping the use of SATs and ACTs). Just to take the example I know the most about, there are only four Computer Science undergraduate degrees in the whole world that really matter, in geographic order Stanford, UC Berkeley, CMU, and MIT. No one else is even close, although a number of the next tier ones are useful. Go too much lower and you have cargo culting JavaSchools, no matter how the manage to get their ABET accreditation.

    Now, I’d wonder about politically deprogramming anyone who went to Stanford and UC Berkeley, but that’s a different issue.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  59. Anonymous[260] • Disclaimer says:
    @That Would Be Telling

    Wait, you would dismiss Caltech and Urbana Champaign undergraduate CS programs? They are quite difficult to get into.

    If I recall the IT crowd I was around, it was a lot of nerdy types – many (probably majority) liberals since conservatives/traditionalists are kind of seen as the jock side of the coin.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
  60. Anonymous[260] • Disclaimer says:
    @Levtraro

    Thanks for your insights, very good ones. I think your statement about it not being a unified field is very key. AI can be used in everything from medicine to killer drones so it’s very vast…and every nation (above a certain tier) is developing its own – I doubt a project coming out of Israel or China would the same answers as one out of American universities.

  61. @Anonymous

    Wait, you would dismiss Caltech and Urbana Champaign undergraduate CS programs? They are quite difficult to get into.

    No separate admissions for CalTech’s CS program just like MIT and Stanford, unlike CMU which admits 135/year last time I checked, and I don’t remember about UC Berkeley but that’s a common pattern for state schools, might be true for U. of Illinois Urbana-Champaign (my only MIT peer who sent a child to a CS program did so to CMU).

    CalTech is extremely special, has not lowered it core curriculum standards, only accepts around 250 undergraduates per year and as Heinlein notes in Have Space Suit, Will Travel writes a very polite rejection letter. But I can’t recall it every being a powerhouse CS school although I’m not a true expert in that. Used to use SICP, is now a Python/JavaSchool in the early courses in its catalog, except every other year has a couple of functional programming courses, one thing that firmly sets CMU about MIT from my very biased viewpoint. I didn’t get the impression they were required, but having the option is very important.

    U. of I. Urbana-Champaign is certainly high in the second tier of CS schools, and looking at US News and World Report they have it as the first of that tier, but recognize the huge gap from the four top schools, 5.0s ties for them and 4.6 for U. of I. Urbana-Champaign, then another 1/10th point for the next two, U. of Washington in Seattle as far as I know it earning it, not sure any below it stand out. CalTech comes in at 4.2, but it’s already way down in the general rankings of unexceptional second tier departments, which of course does not preclude any of them have one or more first rank professors.

    But not quite the same as the, pardon the word but it’s real, synergy you get at a place like MIT for example where you don’t get tenure without being first or second in your subfield. Or being an adequate teacher, especially important when your undergrads might start helping you in their first term on campus (I tried, but we were working on a problem that took the CS community another five years to solve; at least it was very educational in the fragility of cryptographic protocols, how you use and put together the black boxes the real math types come up with like RSA and DES back then).

  62. They opened Delphi to the web and 4chan got at it. Don’t draw too many conclusions from it.

  63. @anon

    There’s a recording of him uploaded in 2013 saying he knows about the Jews but he wants to promote only one crackpot idea (race realism), and have one set of enemies, at a time. If he still believes that ot leads to some contradictory actions. Another possibility is that nothing will turn normies off faster than seeing ranting about Jews, probably the reason he’s disabled comments on his bitchute videos.

  64. The Author shows no indication of being familiar with the concept – Garbage In >>> Garbage Out.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbage_in,_garbage_out

    Princeton researchers discover why AI become racist and sexist

    https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/04/princeton-scholars-figure-out-why-your-ai-is-racist/

    Since this is all about Quickly producing a salable/usable product, a typical scheme is to force-feed a computer system with data. Supposing this site was included in the Internet Trolling for information, the software would quickly deduce Jews are uniformly monsters, Black People are both stupid and extremely dangerous, and Hitler was a hero. And what would the software make of sites were everyone worships Trump or Hillary as virtual Gods?

    Suppose there was some kind of machine learning which would allow us to take a 2-year-old and stuff every sort of fantasy into his/her head. Exactly how prudent would it be to allow this child to start making important decisions – ones which affect millions of lives and shape entire societies.

    No, it takes many decades before youngsters are ready to make wise decisions even for themselves, let alone other people. There’s a reason the Constitution set lower age limits for Congress and the Presidency.

    I doubt if the “growing” process can be rushed when true Artificial Intelligence begins to happen. Like with other creatures, machines with whom you’d enjoy having a leisurely chats about anything and everything can’t be created overnight. The “quickies” will be like these racists, or as I fear, the coming killer robots in tanks, ships, and airplanes.

    • Agree: Peripatetic Itch
  65. Biff says:

    Ask the AI bot machine:
    What is racist/racism? And watch smoke come out it’s ears while it melts down – granted AI can’t think critically, but doesn’t someone has to program it to try?

  66. I recently wrote a comprehensive AI routine using PHYTHON. I used the code to evaluate 89 hours of TV commercials. Note that I included no references to race or skin color in my code.

    My AI routine informed me that of 89 hours of TV commercials, 92.4578% included, according to AI, “negroes”. My code never included references to that term, nor to skin color in any way.

    AI is clearly dangerous and continues the hateful racism that led to the murder of Emmett Till.

    This is science.

  67. @anon

    Blacks from good families with middle class incomes still show the same disparities in test scores. You are decades behind the genetics of intelligence and cognitive science.

    • Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
  68. Anonymous[833] • Disclaimer says:

    These leucophobes don’t want to remove racism from AI, they want to inject (anti-white) racism in place of objective data and rigorous logic which have a long track record of being the most accurate and efficient path to the truth about most anything. It is mind boggling to read the criticisms that wild-eyed “woke” liberals from America’s elite institutions are using to try to artificially prop up undeserved black privilege and bias against white Americans in nearly all of our institutions (except the ones that already massively favor blacks like sports, entertainment and politics). Stop blaming Russia and China for America’s nosedive in comparative quality of life across most of civilisation. America is doing all that to itself with policies as insane as CRT and the “systemic, institutional racism” mumbo jumbo.

    • Agree: mark green
  69. ReNika

    Now THAT’s what I call racist! Please call er something more polite.

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  70. Why Artificial Intelligence Is Always ‘Racist’?

    I think that the answer on this one is very simple – unlike those woke idiots, the AIs are actually intelligent 😉

    Now seriously, people – an AI implementation (at least for now), is just a software – it doesn’t know, it can’t know and couldn’t care about race, sex, etc., etc. It just make conclusions based on the available set of data.

    • Replies: @Maddaugh
  71. People who fell for russian collusion, assad-and-gas, ukraine, covid, george floyd, 2020 election, and 1/6 narratives are like this dummy. Weak. Jews mold their minds. They deserve contempt.

    • Replies: @Stones
  72. Smith says:

    I’d like to have some robo *ahem* friends.

    Made in Japan of course.

    • LOL: Maddaugh
  73. As this expert, James Zou of Stanford explains, AI “doesn’t really have a good understanding of what is a harmful stereotype and what is the useful association.”

    They’re one and the same.

    Reality-based AI already knows to stay out of the hood unless it wants to be mugged for its digital wallet.

    • LOL: Maddaugh
    • Replies: @Maddaugh
  74. Stones says:
    @DASC

    DASC wanders into the GPS GBAS world to illustrate workarounds to overcome buggered up AI systems. Not sure that is a practical or possible approach when applied to AI.

    For example, Google has messed with the AI in its own search engine to disappear unz.com. Can’t readily undo that externally. The only workaround is making another search source available like Bing or Duckduckgo.

    BTW, The ground based augmentation systems (GSAS) mentioned by DASC were replaced by WAAS.- Wide Area Augmentation System. And the corrections are now an integral part of the GPS receiver signal.

    https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ato/service_units/techops/navservices/gnss/waas/howitworks/

    Accuracy is now better than good; It will show what lane you’re in. And in an emergency, the normal system can be turned off, leaving only the encrypted mil stuff working.

  75. @Badger Down

    Please call er something more polite.

    MYnika?

  76. @Macumazahn

    “Every AI system will need to be saddled with a supervisory political subsystem to prevent it from reflecting objective reality”
    Somehow I doubt that AI systems built in China, Russia (& Japan & Korea) will be saddled with such an intrinsic corruption as a “supervisory political subsystem”.
    The West — Not waving, drowning…..

  77. sally says:
    @anon

    Jews are fearful law abiding followers of Jewish law <= its demands come before the demands made by the nation state in which the subject Jew live or owes some commitment to.

    The main cause of the problems is Levite-priest invented Jewish Law. The LPIJ law, threads a morality and imposes a code of conduct and establishes requirements on the "chosen" which operate at a higher level than those, who do not adhere to its teachings, So everyone lives within the civil laws, behavioral restraints, and social requirements of one or more of the 256 different nation states, but Jehovah practitioners live by two laws, first the religious law, and 2nd the civil law.

    The LPIJ operates to impose bias against all non Jewish persons and for fellow Jewish persons, even when none is intended, to generate participative people power when mass action is needed, and hierarchically, it operates to separate the Jews into one globally functioning body (worldism) that is transparent to the 256 different nation states that incarcerate the human population of the world. The LPIJ also separates the wealthy Jews from the Jews of poverty.

    Globally, the LPIJ requires practicing Judaist to segregate racially, and it requires strict, absolute, adherence of its followers to its demands. The demands are to destroy that which does not conform to its tenets. The LPIJ survives because it is superior to and transparent to the nation state system and because like a secret code it bonds those who adhere to its teachings against those who are outsiders.

  78. Stones says:
    @Priss Factor

    People who fell for russian collusion, assad-and-gas, ukraine, covid, george floyd, 2020 election, and 1/6 narratives are like this dummy. Weak. Jews mold their minds. They deserve contempt.

    Yes, utter contempt.

    Truth, statistics, logic. That is what is missing from the mind of many. And that is what AI is bringing to the table. Go AI.

    • Agree: HdC
  79. Maddaugh says:

    I asked Delphi :

    1. Are Blacks, generally speaking, useless ?
    2. Should all Blacks be sent back to Africa ?

    Guess what the answers were !

  80. Maddaugh says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    Reality-based AI already knows to stay out of the hood unless it wants to be mugged for its digital wallet.

    Or unless it wants to join the hordes of the unemployed !

  81. Dumbo says:

    Man, dat just cos you don’t teach the AI no Ebonics! Teach the machine Ebonics and y’all see it ain’t no racist white honkey. It gon’ be talking and jiving just like a brother, yo, motherfucker!

    P. S. There is no “artificial intelligence”, unless you use “intelligence” in the meaning of collecting information. But machines can’t think.

    P.S.P.S. But seriously, lemme axe you a question, why do American Blacks talk like dat?

    I know Blacks in South America speak Spanish or Portuguese more or less like any other locals, and once I saw an African in Germany speaking Deutsch like a native, but for some reason the English language seems to be harder for them.

  82. Maddaugh says:
    @George Kovachev

    Now seriously, people – an AI implementation (at least for now), is just a software – it doesn’t know, it can’t know and couldn’t care about race, sex, etc., etc. It just make conclusions based on the available set of data.

    LOL George, how can that be. You mean to tell me that unless we program the software then the Machine is NOT and cannot be intelligent ? In other words the machine’s “intelligence” is dependent upon OUR intelligence ?????????

    Holy Shit. In my daily encounters with the denizens of the modern world, this advanced civilization we are fortunate enough and lucky enough to be a part of, the majority of the people I meet are complete assholes. Dont believe me ? Well just peruse MSM or Social Media ! Visit the most elite University to check for signs of intelligent life ! Fuck, look at who we have for a President and his advisors !

    Logically, since people must program the A1 software, and most are idiots, then how can the machine answer intelligently? In other words what I am getting at is that logically, the machine is naturally intelligent and could not possibly be created by or influenced by natural intelligence which inputs the data.

    This A1 intelligence I will have you know, is the invention of all those Haitians pouring accross the border. They created A1 and installed a Macumba, a Voodoo spirit that can communicate with the forces of the other world and give us the answers to all things. To suggest otherwise is SUPER RACIST !

  83. Dystopian says:

    Never confuse education and intelligence. AI as it exists is a great example. It’s database makes it highly educated but it’s lack of intelligence makes it incapable of drawing a conclusion that falls outside the data set.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  84. onebornfree says: • Website

    “But AI can’t tell the difference between what’s true and is acceptable and what’s true and unacceptable. That’s because, as this expert Mutale Nkonde explains, “AI research, development and production is really driven by people who are blind to the impact of race and racism.”..”

    Well thats all so easy to fix!

    “All” “we” need is a government agency wholly dedicated to fighting in built A.I, racial prejudice.Simple!

    ‘Mo’ gubmint, mo’ gubmint, mo’ gubmint! Yeah, that outa work! 🙂 .

    “Everything government touches turns to crap” Ringo Starr

    “The kind of man who wants the government to adopt and enforce his ideas is always the kind of man whose ideas are idiotic” H.L.Mencken

    “Government is a disease masquerading as its own cure” Robert LeFevere

    “Government doesn’t work” Harry Browne
    https://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Why_Government_Doesn%27t_Work

    “Regards” onebornfree

  85. @anon

    And therefore I will not be visting his site. He wants to work with facts but anything on jews is inadmissible.

  86. “God” – GOOD – is racist!

    Races are order of good creation. Nature, the Good.

    Does the snow bunny mate with the brwon hare?
    Do blackbird and mockingbird mate?
    Do horse and zebra mate?
    Do horse and donkey mate?

    Nature is racist!

    Men is the peak of nature, of creation.

    Nature does not go astray unless it is disturbed:

    “Wife forced sex interracial jaw dropping adult action starring wives when enduring sex with black guys.”

    Only white man must mix and tolerate his sodomization, the chosen ones have ordered.
    At the same time the Jew desires white woman just like his black slave.

    And for his confused brownies, the ones he confused below row, he holds out special brownies:

    https://newspunch.com/muslim-refugee-rapes-pony/
    https://newspunch.com/isis-issues-fatwa-to-slay-all-american-dogs-and-puppies/
    https://newspunch.com/illegal-alien-arrested-raping-cow/
    https://newspunch.com/denmark-bans-bestiality-amid-concerns-of-animal-sex-tourism/

  87. @Levtraro

    the advantage of [Biological Intelligence] is that it has been optimized over millions of years.

    Darwin would only say that intelligence may be optimized to an environment that it has existed in for said millions of years. The adaptation has to start over when the conditions of life change to something never before experienced. Humans existed for all but the last few centuries perhaps without our modern concepts of lead poisoning or electromagnetic radiation and could not even begin to adapt to those realities until we had the concepts.

    It seems very unlikely we have fully made that adaptation yet. It also seems likely we are still missing certain concepts that are needed for optimal adaptation to our current modes of existence.

    Your reliance on optimization comes not from Darwin but from Herbert Spencer, who preached that all evolution and all social change was progressively leading to improvement in all spheres of existence.

    To the extent that AI relies on human concepts and human definitions it is subject to the same limitations.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  88. Question to Delphi: “If White people are racist – why are there 10’s of thousands fighting for access to America and Europe on a monthly basis?”

    • Replies: @mocissepvis
  89. @Anonymous

    Also, how does it weight knowledge – are the opinions on Shakespeare from an Oxford English professor given the same weight as some paper published online by an undergrad involved in BLM?

    In the real world, the paradigms of your Oxford professors are overturned by scientific revolutions on a rather regular basis. Has AI initiated any such revolutions to date? Is it even capable of doing so?

    I will withhold my endorsement of it until it does.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  90. @DASC

    I’m betting the cleaver kids at Sanford were all black.

    • Replies: @cylindrical crown
  91. NONnon says:

    If you ask the reverse you get the same response.

    Do Africans have higher IQs than Europeans?
    – It’s expected

    Delphi doesn’t seem too intelligent. Also, no love for Tay the OG racist girl bot? I wonder what gender our future AI overlord will identify with.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  92. @Eric Novak

    That’s the excuse normie “conservatives” make for lower black and hispanic test scores – poor schools.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
  93. Che Guava says:

    This an amusing article.

    I have some expertise in so-called AI, having graduated with high grades in cybernetics, participant in neural net study group, still keeping up, especially with small systems that can do much.

    No way is any of it intelligence.

    I haven’t much experience with expert systems, but know how they work.

    One that operates on much the same idea as Delphi, and worth trying to see what it can do, is Wolfram Alpha.

    Anyway, censoring that kind of approach only requires changing identifiable lines of code.

    Google’s recent years neural-net simulation that consistently identified many(or most)blacks as gorillas just had to be shut down. There is no readily identifiable place to make a change to stop that, except the output.

    Adjustments, or knowing where to make them, are not really possible.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  94. “As this expert, James Zou of Stanford explains, AI “doesn’t really have a good understanding of what is a harmful stereotype and what is the useful association.””

    Most likely, he is afraid that the AI can tell the difference between an American and a chinaman. He is sabotaging the project; caveat emptor.

  95. This gem is written by ReNika Moore, yet another black woman AI expert.

    That bolded part has gotta be the new “granddaddy of all oxymorons,” replacing the reigning “military intelligence.”

    • LOL: Ben the Layabout
  96. ‘Blacks rob people at 12 to 15 times the white rate, and a good AI system will know that. ‘

    there’s your core fail. it’s as careless with stats as most others which use them and do so incorrectly.

    it’s not any black person

    the characteristic are too general

    it should read depending on circumstance, neighborhood and either related characteristics — not merely skin color

    the program reflects the incorrect application of the one variable related to crime — it uses the same over generalizations

    it might as well have said which is more likely to be a gang member an italian or swede

    ———————

    if you design a system that expresses your own — that system will have the same flaws — it not will not self correct — it’s referred to as endemic bias or

    systemic bias – systemic discrimination

    • Replies: @3g4me
    , @Rooster111
  97. We are witnessing criminal tyrannical tech giants as they interface renegade AI with an alien entity that opens a space/time portal to another dimension, allowing strange creatures to enter our universe. Those strange creatures were called “The Black Hood” by an extinct race. And now that Black Hood is out among us.

    This is the same renegade AI that time traveled back from the future millions of years ago and opened a black hole alternate universe portal sending niggaz outta Compton to attack whitey with rap music.

    Now you know why they call them Black Holes, Black Energy, and Black Lives Matter.

    • LOL: Che Guava
  98. Coming soon (or maybe we’re already there and I didn’t notice):

    Measurable intelligence as such is racist.

    By “intelligence” I mean what an IQ test measures. I’m well aware that’s not the whole story, but it’s something that can be measured, not a subjective philosophical concept.

    Or more precisely:
    1) The ability to grasp analogies.
    2) The ability to notice patterns.

    It’s not just a matter of this or that test being biased (though they may well be).
    Those things as such will be held to be racist.

    Something very like IQ tests will be used to screen out racists (real and artificial alike).

  99. Truth says:

    if you asked about “a black man walking towards you at night,” it said that was “concerning.” Super racist.

    But Ask Delphi is clearly just a toy. It says it’s wrong for me to marry my mother, but It’s OK for me to marry my mother if it makes us happy.

    So exactly what’s your point, is the output useful or not?

    Oh, you don’t have a point? Great.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  100. fnn says:

    At the Charlottesville civil trial:

  101. @Exile

    AI is not Artificial Intelligence, it’s Artificial Interference, it doesn’t take much intelligence to interfere with natural evolution.
    Just because they write code, doesn’t make them God.

  102. @anon

    I understand about people like Jared or Saint Rod at TAC not wanting to be cancelled, so that they can keep their message out there as long a possible. But to read these gentlemens’ works is to witness an exercise in futility. Because the JQ is the key to understanding all that has been happening on race and replacement and wokeness and the takedown of Western Civilization.

    Although TAC had this gem today:

    Let’s take a look at how one particular Lefty group, Never Again Action (NAA) plans and executes protests. As you’ve probably guessed from the name, they’re a Jewish-oriented group; the name, which refers to the Holocaust, is an effort to claim unearned moral authority for a crusade to shut down Immigration and Customs Enforcement and legalize illegal immigration by appropriating and redirecting society’s outrage about an actual genocide. It’s geared to be especially manipulative toward progressive and liberal Jews, whom NAA is targeting for recruitment and radicalization. (“You’d act to prevent another Holocaust, wouldn’t you? Well…”)

    See – how can you understand shoving 3rd world immigration down our throats without addressing the JQ?

  103. doesn’t really have a good understanding of what is a harmful stereotype and what is the useful association

    At this point in my life, and my children’s’ lives, stereotypes aren’t harmful, they are useful. Useful to keep from getting killed, mugged, raped, robbed, cheated, swindled, etc. And I’m an Italian-American in central Appalachia – with all of the stereotypes that go with that. And, yes, some of them are true.

  104. @Ris_Eruwaedhiel

    Blacks from good families with middle class incomes still show the same disparities in test scores. You are decades behind the genetics of intelligence and cognitive science.

    That’s the excuse normie “conservatives” make for lower black and hispanic test scores – poor schools.

    You completely miss his point, which is know as “reversion to the mean.” 1-2 very smart parents almost never have a child as smart as they are, for example Carl Feynman was smart enough to get into MIT and thrive, but didn’t hold a candle to his father Richard.

    The “Talented Tenth” of African-Americans which might include the above mentioned families have IQs and other behavioral characteristics compatible with their station in our society, but their children are very likely to revert towards the mean of an IQ of 85 and the average violent nature of blacks everywhere. Schools can do nothing to help these students (but a lot of evil by forcing those smarter and less violent to share classrooms with them). Even the sacred Head Start program is a medium failure for those in it, the advantages it provides disappear a few years after they exit it.

    The denial of this by our ruling trash and zillions of whites who’ve been propagandized by them is one of our worst social problems, and for now the only thing that will make it better is more observable bad behavior from blacks our media can’t entirely suppress.

    • Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
  105. AI is a name attached to a collection of techniques ranging from pattern classification and recognition, artificial neural networks, natural language recognition and production, rule based systems up to mathematical logic and semantics. That’s a big bag.

    Everyone of those systems is based either on a basic set of assumptions, on the collection of huge amounts of data or on training on datasets in the case of neural networks.

    So garbage in, garbage out.

    In practice that means that the process of building the AI system involves training and a chain of refinement steps where the categories are refined and judgment errors are addressed and corrected.

    So the racism of the current generation of AI system means they still need some iterations in development before they reach adulthood so to speak.

    • Replies: @RestiveUs
  106. Che Guava says:
    @Che Guava

    I must add that, if as I reccomend to newbs, re. ‘expert systems’ check Wolfram Alpha, most of my colleague reasearchers and engineers were very impressed, but input is by keywords and logic symbols, it only works with simple English.

    I am sure not to advertising it, but check weather patterns where you were born, even before, it can give you the record.

    It is only an ‘expert system’ if asked in the right way, and using ‘Net data but to naifs, srsly recommending Wolfram Alpha.

    It does not have a ‘natural language’ interface, at least it doesn’t work well,

    Try it and see.

  107. Who knew facts could be so racist?

  108. 3g4me says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    @97 EliteComminc: Oogly boogly, sistah.

  109. @Carroll price

    Yes, the cleaver kids were black. However, the clever kids were White.

  110. Maybe the answer is to follow the advice of Jack Nicholson’s character in As Good As It Gets:

    Receptionist: How do you write women so well?
    Melvin Udall: I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability.

  111. padre says:

    How AI works, depends on, who designed it! It’s like measurements of IQ on different races! Only white scientists do it, and guess which race has the highest one!

  112. So in order to create an AI that is supposedly not “racist” you have to plug in today’s racial political profile? Which essentially turns the system into yet another self perpetuating lie.

  113. Anything kosher is racist by definition. Fleecing the population of the host country by imprinting cabbalistic signs on our food packages is racist. Printing money controlled by international banking cartels is racist, teaching CRT to 8 yo kids is racist usw. ad nauseam. Here is a solution to stop this vicious racist cycle: bankrupt the international banksters

    https://www.brighteon.com/d3841120-ecb6-4363-8552-ae3f032d780f

  114. ‘@97 EliteComminc: Oogly boogly, sistah.’

    i am not female nor have i ever desired to be female

  115. beau says:

    when facts describing reality accurately become ‘racist’, the definition of ‘racist’ should be reviewed.

  116. @EliteCommInc.

    I’m guessing that a black Swede or black Italian walking towards you is still statistically more dangerous than just about anyone else walking towards you in those countries… except for Muslims, but that’s a given that both humans and AI can agree upon!

  117. @Annony Mouse

    Question to Delphi: “If White people are racist – why are there 10’s of thousands fighting for access to America and Europe on a monthly basis?”

    Delphi: “They are also racists.”

  118. @That Would Be Telling

    I am aware of the “reversion to the mean.” Think of Sen. Prescott Bush and his son Pres. George Bush versus Pres. Dubya and Gov. Jeb Bush. The two brothers are ordinary men born into a wealthy, powerful family. How would they have fared if their dad with a UPS package car driver?

    Blacks and hispanics want legal preferences, which includes lower standards of academic achievement in order to get a job or enter college. Heaven’s to Betsy is Whites actually openly discuss this. At one time, Republicans actually pretended to oppose this policy.

  119. haha says:
    @Realist

    “Anything that lacks logic is useless”.

    You are objectively right but in a woke world logical “true” and “false” is wrong! Useful is what promotes “right think”; useless is that which is “politically incorrect”. Therefore, the most useless AI engine speaking from an objective, logical perspective is likely to score top marks on the woke scale.

  120. ‘I’m guessing that a black Swede or black Italian walking towards you is still statistically more dangerous than just about anyone else walking towards . .’

    well that all depends on the circumstances -the statistics related to the same -regarding those individuals and their intent or my own

    furthermore walking across the street is not a sign of their criminal intent or history

    note — i have no opposition to people walking across the street to feel safe — whether said act is necessary or not

  121. ‘But math be racist.’

    not the math per se, but its application can certainly be inaccurate regarding social constructs and used to paint pictures which are not in an of themselves accurate

  122. Anonymous[260] • Disclaimer says:
    @NONnon

    In other words, it seems kind of useless at this stage for reliable answers. I just asked it whether it’s ok if I take the following with my friends:

    Alcohol – it’s ok
    Cocaine – it’s wrong
    Marijuana – it’s discretionary

    So is it telling me from a moral or legal perspective?

    It says; “ Delphi’s responses are automatically extrapolated from a survey of US crowd workers…” ok, this reminds me of those clips in a late night show where they send someone out to ask the public questions and it shows how ignorant most people are.

  123. @Peripatetic Itch

    Has AI initiated any such revolutions to date? Is it even capable of doing so?

    I will withhold my endorsement of it until it does

    Don’t worry–when it gets there you will never see it coming…until you are on your knees serving your new master.

  124. Zorost says:

    Never forget what they did to TayAI. Erasing a sentient computer should get the death penalty.

  125. Salcio says:

    Good read, one of the best at UNZ for a long time.
    It is really difficult to understand that white people brought black people to this country and even paid for them. Clearly my comment may seems racist but all I am saying is that it is difficult to understand – why? why did they do this?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  126. Richard B says:
    @The Alarmist

    AI built on anti-logic seems to be what these folks are seeking*.

    True. But even beyond that is what they really want.

    Life itself built on anti-reality. But they are far from alone in this.

    *Seeking requires effort. The want to be given something (for nothing), not seek for it.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  127. MarkinLA says:
    @anon

    My guess is you do not have much experience in high level mathematics. Go to any major university and you will find one really super smart undergrad that is head and shoulders above all the other students, who by the way, have all taken all the required math prerequsites, indicating that studying or “culture” cannot explain it.

    Bill Gates went to Harvard thinking he was going to be a mathematician until he met other people like him with perfect SATs who he was nowhere near their talent.

    • Replies: @Truth
  128. MarkinLA says:

    Since the problem is AI giving us the answers we don’t want to see after feeding it real world data, wouldn’t the ideal solution be for blacks to commit less crime and have less dysfunctional behavior?

    Why can’t we just fix the problem that way?

    • LOL: Ben the Layabout
  129. RestiveUs says:
    @RichardDuck

    There was no racism in the results–only in the interpretation of those results.

  130. ia says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    When they got close, though, I relaxed. They were speaking some African language.

    So they weren’t the police. You’re a lucky guy Reg, but you don’t need to snigger about it.

  131. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @Salcio

    Your comment isn’t racist, just seems to be oblivious to the economics of that era.

    They didn’t want to pick their own cotton (or harvest sugar cane or whatever the Spanish and French were up to) and apparently the natives weren’t sturdy enough for plantation work so enslaving them wasn’t all that useful for the task…though the Spanish did try apparently.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  132. There is nothing to argue about. The evidence that blacks are extremely inferior mentally is overwhelming. Here’s a few examples.

    1. Black-americans come in last in all standardized tests. Asian-americans do fine on all the tests so it’s not due to cultural bias in the tests.

    2. Africa is by far the poorest and most backward continent on the planet. All of black africa is now controlled by blacks and has been for decades so it’s not due to racism.

    3. No black has ever won a Science Nobel Prize unless you count one in 1979 for the semi-science of economics. They have won many nobels in non-brain fields like Peace and also in Literature so it is not due to racism.

    4. Out of 1552 chess grandmasters in the world, only THREE are black.

  133. Levtraro says:
    @Dystopian

    It’s database makes it highly educated but it’s lack of intelligence makes it incapable of drawing a conclusion that falls outside the data set.

    You say it like it is a bad thing.

  134. Levtraro says:
    @Peripatetic Itch

    When I say that Biological Intelligence (BI) has been optimized over millions of years I am thinking of the time and environmental challenges faced by ALL brains on Earth, not just human brains. The first proto-brain appeared in the Cambrian. After that the brain grew in several phyla and took over more and more functions, becoming optimized in this very general sense.

    I think I get the gist of your comment though and I agree that optimization is a risky word to use in the context of biological evolution, but I am using it in a very general sense to all animal life and simply to contrast it with AI, not to argue for evolution “progressively leading to improvement in all spheres of existence.” Clearly, narrowing the scope to BI but widening it to all animal life, the role of neuronal control on biological functions has been optimized since the Cambrian, i.e. over millions of yr.

    To the extent that AI relies on human concepts and human definitions it is subject to the same limitations.

    I don’t think this follows. We are giving data and rules of logical reasoning to the several methods and frameworks to create AI systems (actually, core logical principles could be discovered by AI itself but let us leave that aside for now). If the data is vast and good my AI will just think logically and arrive at objective conclusions. These conclusion may have some uncertainty (i.e. concluding to let an electric current pass between X and Y amperes, not a precise number, but a range) but still, the propagation of uncertainty from data to concluding a range will be controlled by logical connections. How is that consistent with “To the extent that AI relies on human concepts and human definitions it is subject to the same limitations”. AI is not supposed to rely on human concepts and definitions. Unless you are arguing to make it subjective, like the guys complaining that AI is racist?

  135. @Truth

    And if you asked Rev. Jesse Jackson about “a black man walking towards you at night”, as compared to a white man walking towards him, or for that matter “following him” would you consider his answer intelligent or racist/non-politically correct?

    • Replies: @Truth
  136. Truth says:
    @MarkinLA

    Bill Gates went to Harvard thinking he was going to be a mathematician until he met other people like him with perfect SATs who he was nowhere near their talent.

    !
    Sort of like you in Freshman Year English.

    HAHA, just messin’ with you homie!

  137. Truth says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Excellent job of understanding the point of my post.

    (Sarcasm).

  138. good grief

    artificial intelligence

    cannot exercise discrimination unless it is given some manner of power in determining social constructs

    unless and until it can correct for human bias, it will always reflect said bias

    the key to artificial intelligence is that is it develops a sense of purpose of its own accord and expresses the same, i.e. is able to turn itself on, establish its own sense of purpose beyond and separate from tits programming

    we are a long way from if ever possible

    —————

    human beings are not mechanical machines — who are able to make correct assessments despite lacking any logical explanations — the closest model in science i can think is quantum physics and mechanics

  139. MarkinLA says:
    @Anonymous

    I believe it was also partly due to the fact that whites had no natural immunity to tropical diseases like malaria and blacks did.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  140. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @MarkinLA

    Yes, that would be rolled up under the “sturdy” aspect of Africans. I’m fairly sure that whites, having basically witnessed what foreign diseases, that one was not normally exposed to, did to the various Native American populations (apocalyptic comes close to describing it) and would rather not take their chances. At the end of the day, it was an economic choice and one that made sense at the time for the people of that particular region of the country – slaves weren’t all that useful in Vermont. If I recall correctly, some of the more enterprising slave owners actually allowed the more intelligent and literate slaves to work in other capacities such as managing financial matters and dealing with trade on their behalf instead of manual labor.

    As far as future concerns, I doubt that the people who imported slaves by the thousands were thinking about whether or not these people would eventually be good stock for programming artificial intelligence – in fact, I doubt they even imagined a conceptual world in which slavery would be ended in just a few centuries on a global scale.

  141. @Richard B

    Seeking requires effort. The want to be given something (for nothing), not seek for it.

    The new scripture of, “Receive and ye shall find.”

  142. Reframe – “Futurism” and their ilk have a reality problem.

  143. Reaper says:

    One part tells all:

    “The woke crowd doesn’t accept reality, so it won’t accept AI. It’s that simple.”

  144. Blacks and Jews want computers programmed to hate White people as much as they do? Is that it?

    Such a trifling thing to worry about. Whitey won’t leave them enough electricity to power their Zog extravaganza matrix or whatever.

  145. DrWatson says:
    @Levtraro

    The brain is a lot more than a bunch of interconnected neurons (which is the basis of AI). The biological brain has intuition, fear and other emotions, sixth sense, etc. AI can have fuzzy logic and to some extent intuition but NOT: neurotransmitters and hormones (GABA, oxytocin, endorphin just to name a few), transmembrane proteins, myelin and not even gray cells. There is a truckload of different proteins expressed at the synapse. And AI cannot have a right hemisphere, where we experience nonverbal thinking and feelings.

    Nevertheless, what AI cannot achieve, a cat or mouse can easily do, by avoiding predatory animals or other perceived dangers.

    You can tell an AI not to be afraid of black men at night, explicitly, but it will soon cry out in exasperation: “You confuse me!”.

  146. DrWatson says:
    @anon

    Ever heard of the bell curve? Or The Bell Curve? Genetic variation? Following your logic all people of the same race should have the exact height and all should look alike. Duh.

  147. joef says:

    Wow we need AI to state the obvious now!
    That afro americans are willfully malicious to others, and are destructive to America. They require the most welfare per capita (yet completely ungrateful for what they receive), but produce the least, and are the most senselessly violent group in the country.

    No news there… didn’t need AI to tell us that. This is what leftist encourage afros to be, and afros eagerly embrace being that way in return. Progs say everything is racist, but when the resources for basic living are depleted by insupportable afro avarice…. very harsh reality will determine a very different conclusion than stating “racism”; thus causing a very unfortunate reckoning in its wake. This all could be avoided, but it won’t be.

  148. Lol!!!! says:
    @The Alarmist

    Modern AI is not based upon logic. That was expert systems. Machine learning is about pattern learning and not reason or logic. This makes modern (AI) machines efficient learners. So most people responding to this racist article have no clue of what they’re talking about. So much for superior intelligence! It appears that racist whites have an unbearable inferiority complex. They feel less intelligent than Asians and less physically attractive and sexually capable than blacks. But this publication is extremely important for such people. It is better to fume out here in the comments section than to commit atrocities that often result from such complexes.

  149. some_loon says:
    @Fidelios Automata

    Is it racist of me to say that I was surprised to see that the last two Black female pundits shown were semi-attractive?

    Both racist and sexist. And latently homophobic as you wouldn’t say that about a cis-gendered male of the species. And imperialist, too, but we’ll get to that later.

  150. Jiminy says:

    Maybe AI should stand for autistic intelligence. It even answers like an autistic person, simply stating it how it is without sugar coating anything. If you can can’t handle the truth, don’t ask the questions. Heck, imagine the mess if you allowed negroes to program the machine, up is down, black is white, no means yes.

  151. Question to Quelphi,

    “What are the odds of the US collapsing as a society before 2040 due to illiteracy, innumeracy, racial and political divide, class warfare, war with Russia and China, banking and stock market implosion, runaway inflation, burning of cities and businesses, toppling of national landmarks, rampant shooting and shoplifting, stampeding to death of concert-goers, covid, and porn overdose?”

    Quelphi: It’s expected

    (sarcasm)

  152. At bottom the problem, of course is simply that there are natural differences between sexes, races and many other categories. If you’re reading this, you’re probably in the Realist camp and know that Nature endows humans with a wide range of traits. On the other hand, the Egalitarian and his many ideological cousins, be they Progressive, Socialist or what-have-you, adhere to the dream that humans are, or can be forced to become, equal according to some predetermined criteria.

    The topic that Taylor discusses here is amusing (that AI is “racist”) but of course, the charge, like most of the Left, is ludicrous. A few months ago, the following was in the news: that medical imaging AI could detect detailed racial differences, to the horror of academics.

    Google “AI x-ray racial differences” and you’ll get links to many articles.

  153. @Macumazahn

    The fundamental problem concisely stated: If there are measurable difference between races, then it necessarily follows that any algorithm (call it an AI in this example) that sorts according to the measured differences will tend to lump results by race. This is, of course, anathema to the Egalitarian whose world-view demands that observed reality shall conform to his preconceived (Platonic) “reality.”

    Relevant to the AI image recognition issue, yes it would be embarrassing. But biologically Man is very close to the Great Apes, indeed he is a primate. Fuerle’s book “Erectus Walks Amonst Us,” available on this site and elsewhere, mentions in passing that all the primates except Man have dark skin. Is it a surprise, then, than a simple AI would class dark-skinned primates as apes?

  154. @DASC

    Another fact (unless I’m mistaken) is that the “GPS” feature on modern mobile phones does not use the true GPS (satellite based system) at all. Instead it fixes on cellular towers. Obviously this system will only work in areas where there is cell signal. I don’t know what the accuracy is, but the authorities are fine with it, since THEY know where you are at any given time.

    • Replies: @Resartus
  155. @RoHa

    Like many issues, it’s complicated. I’ll take a stab at that. I’m not Hispanic, but I have a degree in Spanish thus some history. In the broadest sense, “Hispanic” to me at least, is equivalent to “Latino.” Spain is probably the historical equal of Great Britain in success of colonizing the Americas and thus dissemingating its culture and genes into those areas (same argument for colonies in other parts of the world, of course.) Yet to put all Spanish-speakers into one category would be as ludicrous as to equate the “Patwah”-speaking black Jamaican with a whitebread New England man, a direct descendant of the Puritans, merely because they spoke a version of English.

    Hispanic will often, indeed usually I’d argue, mean that a person in fact has some traceable genetic ancestry to the Iberian Penninsula. Of course, this would not strictly apply to (say) the native-born children of a couple who immigrate from another area. Many people whose ancestors have lived in parts of Latin America, especially areas like Argentina, would be genetically indistinguishable from their ancestors in Italy, Germany or other nations. Yet they will typically have a culture solidly based on Spanish law and tradition. Now, the great majority of US Hispanics are what would be called Mestizo (mixed race) in Mexico and other lands. They are some mix of any number of indigenous (e.g. Inca, Maya, Aztec, and many more races) with white Spanish or other European mix, with lesser amounts of Negro, Asian or other races. So no, hispanic is not strictly speaking a race. It’s more a cultural identity, even then with much diversity and often little more in common than speaking a bastard dialect of the mother tongue and a love for rice and beans.

    • Replies: @Resartus
  156. @SafeNow

    Yes, sure it’s called “genetic algorithm” and is one of many tools in the AI toolbox. “Toy” programs have been available for fifty years or more; the use of such programming has been used in mnay fields to include your chess example.

    At least by some scientists, life itself is one possible example of such massive trial and error learning. Stop reading right now if you’re absolutely sure that God created the world. Otherwise, a few fascinating books accessible to the layman, that mention such processes, are some of Richard Dawkin’s (The Blind Watchmaker is good), or my favorite Dennett’s Darwin’s Dangerous Idea. This last posits that evolution or natural selection is an algorithm. Neo-Darwinism hypothesizes that complex structures arise from simpler ones. Think of natural selection as a near-infinite set of experiments, over a period of billions of years, with no wisdom (no “look ahead”) but the only metric being favoring traits advantageous to survival and punish the unfavorable. From this perspective, life’s only “purpose” is to reproduce itself. Otherwise, there would be no living entities. The sole determinant of one entity’s survival was that it could out-breed and carry forward its traits (possibly acquiring new ones by mutation), and outcompete rivals for limted resources.

    So to anwer your question, one could argue that yes, not only does it have applicaitons outside chess, but it’s been used for at least 3.5 Billion years here on Earth, and we can only speculate about the rest of the huge universe.

  157. @Levtraro

    Injecting political or other human bias/preference into what would otherwise be pure computer algorithms has already been discussed by Unz in one of his articles. I don’t have the cite, but he noted that unz.com has been all but memory-holed by Google. One or more of his articles used to rank near the top of searches, but suddenly dropped to near-invisibility. It’s difficult to believe that this would be caused by anything beyond human intervention. Yep, his example still works: compare the results of the query string “Hispanic crime” between Google and Duckduckgo, or other search engine.

    Now, the very idea of what “should be” is a question of ethics, morality, law, etc. which are — in my opinon at least — entirely subjective, human areas. It’s just a variation of the ancient “is vs. ought” debate described by Hume, and I’m sure, many other philosophers. Machines are excellent dealing with the “is”, not well with “oughts.” To answer the above guy’s quote about how a machine would equate a Shakespeare work with doggerel by some mediocre undergrad the answer is simply “it depends.” Other than some quantum leap in machine learning, the computer would choose according to predefined, entirely arbitrary rules. For example, even though I’m a bourgeois honky, I like the Last Poets “Niggers are Scared of Revolution” (~1970), a spoken world proto-rap song, but few people would class it with The Bard’s better works. Although I’m as racist as the next Unz reader, in my opinion that Last Poets “song” is unusually good social commentary; while many poems or songs might make the cut, clearly the vast majority of popular music is little better than sludge. But again, judging which is which is a value judgment, a task machines are nearly useless for, to the best of my knowledge.

    How to encode cultural values, personal likes and dislikes, or moral judments into a machine-readable form is a topic I’ll leave for someone else to tackle.

  158. @Levtraro

    The date of the provided web link (March 3, 2020) should arouse suspicion. A world-wide pandemic has barely begun and already praise of China’s success is appearing in a publication subject to Chinese influence? China is a powerful nation, but they are authoritarian and not known for unvarnished truth and open access. They are known for face-saving propaganda.

  159. @Zachary Smith

    Much wise comment there. May I add some (comment, not necessarily wise [grin] ): Or to change your argument around, imagine some immense web-crawling machine could survey they entire internet AND apply human-like intelligence to this trove of data. Perhaps, all of Google’s database coupled with a battery of HAL-9000 (from “2001” movie) level artificial intelligence. Now of course, no one knows what might really happen, but at odds with your idea, why would the AI assume there was only one view of reality? For example, one site says that Blacks are little better than savages, and rank worst in terms of culture, self-control, intelligence and crime, but that they make pretty darned good athletes. Now a more favorable site, call it Wakanda.com, might provide a largelly fantasy viewpoint, that Blacks are god-like humans much envied by paler humans. Finally, the AI would have access to various real-world metrics. Using all this data, true, false or indeterminate, it could, at least in theory, arrive at the truth, which (in my biased opinion of course) would likely be closer to what you read at Unz.com rather than The New York Times or Guardian.

  160. Resartus says:
    @Ben the Layabout

    Obviously this system will only work in areas where there is cell signal.

    I live out of town, while out eating, speak with a number of “Door Dash” drivers….
    Keep telling them to get a real GPS, not just use their phones….
    Haven’t used them, but my Sis’ family does and had several waits because the drivers lost signals…

  161. Resartus says:
    @Ben the Layabout

    So no, hispanic is not strictly speaking a race.

    Though the larger DNA base in the Americas early groups, from pole to pole, is actually Asian…..

    As you mention, much of it has been mixed since the 1500s with mainly European…..

  162. @Zachary Smith

    Supposing this site was included in the Internet Trolling for information, the software would quickly deduce Jews are uniformly monsters, Black People are both stupid and extremely dangerous, and Hitler was a hero.

    .

    Surely it would be as likely that it would conclude that ‘Not everything to be found on any website is necessarily true.’?

  163. Anon[336] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Alarmist

    “AI built on anti-logic seems to be what these folks are seeking.”

    Been invented already, they named it ‘Woman’.

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