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Very soon after Dylann Roof murdered nine blacks in Charleston, it became clear to me that the nation was reacting in ways that would make similar killings more likely. I thought it was important to explain to as large an audience as possible that what were doing was a mistake.

I have been shut out of mainstream journalism for at least 25 years, but I still have a small number of contacts in the business. It was in the hope that I might be able to get back into the pages of a “respectable” magazine that I wrote the following article. I wrote it as soberly and as factually as I could, with the goal of explaining to a general audience why increasing numbers of Americans reject—and even despise—conventional thinking about race and race relations.

I sent the article to an acquaintance of many years who writes for a prestigious national magazine, and asked if he would be willing to pass it along to his editor without telling him who had written it. He did so, and the editor showed interest. I wanted to remain anonymous and to use a pen name but the editor wanted to know who I was. He decided not to publish the article. My correspondence with him was brief and unsatisfactory, and he never explicitly said that the piece could have published if it had been written by someone else. In any case, it will not appear in that prestigious magazine.

Our country will eventually have to come to grips with what drove Dylann Roof to murder. The sooner our rulers think seriously about these questions the better. My attempt to speed that process failed, and I am grateful to The Unz Review for accepting this article for publication.

The massacre at the Emanuel AME Church has shaken our country more than any event since the attacks of September 11. And like those attacks, it has prompted an outpouring of emotion and a strong desire to take action.

Within just ten days of the killings, Amazon, eBay, Sears, Walmart, Google Shopping, the Apple app store, and the gift shops at Fort Sumter and the Gettysburg battlefield announced they would no longer sell Confederate-flag merchandise. The Alabama State Capitol and the chapel at the Citadel took down battle flags they had displayed for years. Many have called for a renewed emphasis on America’s past sins of slavery, lynching, and Jim Crow, as a way to combat hate.

These actions express the shock and outrage that Americans rightly feel, but I do not believe they will help prevent future racial violence. I think they will make it more likely.

I have never met Dylann Roof. He is reported to have been a high school dropout and drug taker, who expressed confused and even incoherent opinions about race. He is also a mass murderer. However, for professional reasons, I am acquainted with a large number of young white men—and some women—who share enough of his views to give me what I believe is a good sense of his motives.

If we want to prevent more Dylann Roofs, we should try to understand him. This may seem futile and even immoral. Some would say that pure evil cannot be understood, and that trying to understand Roof is tantamount to excusing him. These objections are understandable but misplaced. First, some of his views are spreading. They should be grappled with, not simply condemned. Second, by understanding what drove Roof to mass murder we may be able to make mass murder less likely. If we examine the anxieties, vulnerabilities, and resentments behind his views—and those of other young whites—it may be possible to palliate them in ways that do not violate our values and that could prevent future violence.

The press routinely describes Roof and others like him as “white supremacists,” but this is not a useful term. It implies a desire to rule over or dominate other races, and there is no evidence Roof wanted that. Roof, and the many people I know who think to some degree as he does, are profoundly disaffected from American society. The ones I know are unlike Roof in that they are educated, sophisticated, attractive professionals, but like Roof, they reject and even despise conventional attitudes about race. Their thinking is not, however, a modern-day survival of the slave-holder or segregationist mentality. It has similarities, but it is rooted in current circumstances. It is a new way for whites to think about race. “White supremacist” is an outmoded expression that does not cast light on today’s realities.

To understand Dylann Roof, we must set aside much of the framework that shapes the way we think about race. One difficult concept to grasp is that although everyone, beginning with Barack Obama, has agonized over the “hatred” that led to the church killings, Roof did not hate black people in any conventional sense.

Roof reportedly told racist jokes, but someone who hates black people does not have a lot of black friends on Facebook, or choose a black man, Christon Scriven, as his favorite drinking companion. Scriven may have been Roof’s closest friend; the two often got falling-down drunk together. Even after the shootings Scriven told an interviewer, “My opinion about Dylann doesn’t change. . . . I still love him as a friend.” A black school mate, Antonio Metze, also confirmed that Roof had black friends.

This is consistent with Roof’s behavior at the time of the killings. He reportedly seemed almost to regret what he was doing. “I have to do this,” he explained. After his arrest, he told a police officer that he was trying to start a “race war.”

Dylann Roof therefore did not “hate black people” in the comprehensive, visceral way we imagine lynch mobs hating black people. If we set aside the extent to which his behavior was the result of drugs and mental instability, he acted for abstract, even political reasons. Why did Roof see blacks as an enemy army even if, as individuals, they could be his friends?

We can look for the answer in his “manifesto.” He starts by saying that he was “not raised in a racist home or environment,” and that at school, blacks and whites exchanged innocent racial jokes.

He then explains what put him on the road to disaffection:

The event that truly awakened me was the Trayvon Martin case. I kept hearing and seeing his name, and eventually I decided to look him up. I read the Wikipedia article and right away I was unable to understand what the big deal was. It was obvious that Zimmerman was in the right. But more importantly this prompted me to type in the words “black on White crime” into Google, and I have never been the same since that day. The first website I came to was the Council of Conservative Citizens. There were pages upon pages of these brutal black on White murders. I was in disbelief. At this moment I realized that something was very wrong. How could the news be blowing up the Trayvon Martin case while hundreds of these black on White murders got ignored? [emphasis added]

Repugnant as it may be to accept the reasoning of a mass murder, something is wrong—at least in the minds of many whites. Unless we recognize this, it is impossible even to begin to think about how to forestall violent acts by others who think as Roof did.

The Martin/Zimmerman case certainly was “a big deal,” to use Roof’s words. It was a big deal because it was widely treated as a searing example of white racism. NBC famously doctored the recording of George Zimmerman’s 911 call to make it sound as though the only reason Zimmerman thought Martin might be a burglar was because Martin was black. Early reports were of a racist “white Hispanic” who had profiled and shot an unarmed black man in cold blood, and of an equally racist police force that refused to charge him with murder.

The case is still evoked as a powerful symbol of white racism. Therefore, it is no wonder Dylann Roof was surprised to learn that Martin profiled Zimmerman as a “creepy-ass cracker,” knocked him to the ground, broke his nose, and continued to beat him until Zimmerman fired a single shot from his licensed handgun. This case would have attracted little attention if Martin had been white, and it should not be treated as a telling example of white racism.

Nor should the Michael Brown case in Ferguson, Missouri. Again, initial reports were wrong: The shooting was said to be unprovoked; Brown was shot in the back; if he wasn’t shot in the back, he was on his knees begging for mercy. Like the Trayvon Martin incident, this was subsequently found to be a case of justified use of lethal force, in which race probably played little or no part. Anyone, white or black, who attacks a policeman and tries to wrestle away his gun has a good chance of being shot. Again, if Michael Brown had been white, this shooting, too, would have attracted little attention.

And yet, because the media gave such prominence to early, inaccurate accounts of the incident, it provoked rioting and arson, gave rise to the “black lives matter” movement that continues to this day, and put a cloud over every encounter between white police and black citizens.

Roof would certainly have followed this case, as well as that of Freddie Gray, the Baltimore man whose death at the hands of the police also provoked riots, arson, and outrage over alleged police racism. But again, subsequent investigation found that the evidence for police misconduct was thin, and—what is even stranger in a case of alleged police racism—the officers charged with the most serious offenses are black.

This is not to say that police should not be investigated for misconduct. In April, a white officer in North Charleston was caught on video shooting a black man in the back after what the officer claimed was a struggle over his Taser. The officer has been charged with murder. But here, likewise, despite much talk of racism, there is no compelling evidence that race was a motive in the shooting. Police get angry at people who fight them.

As so often happens when race is involved, these cases have a Rashomon-like quality: People can hear the same evidence—even watch the same video—and interpret it very differently. In the Michael Brown case, sixty-four percent of whites but only 10 percent of blacks thought the grand jury was right not to indict the white officer. Social opinion surveys rarely produce differences this stark. Later, an 86-page report from the Department of Justice found that the grand jury had acted correctly, but by then most people’s minds were made up, and the “black lives matter” campaign lost none of its energy.

Well publicized incidents such as these would have reinforced Dylann Roof’s view that the media are so determined to hunt down white racism that they find it where it may not exist. This is an increasingly common view, and not just among the disaffected whites I know. One need only glance through the comments sections of any on-line newspaper to sense a rising frustration with media that appear overhasty in accusing whites of racism.

Roof wrote that the Martin/Zimmerman case was the spark but that the real tipping point was the website of the Council of Conservative Citizens, where he found many reports of black-on-white murders. How could this have so affected him that he has “never been the same since that day”? The answer requires an examination of the nature and extent of interracial crime, and how society views it.

The website of the C of CC, as the council calls itself, is a lurid chronicle of black-on-white (and sometimes Hispanic-on-white) crime. Its typical posting includes a photo of an attractive young white woman alongside a photo of the black boyfriend or mugger who killed and/or raped her.

The website does not pretend to be balanced. It covers other subjects, but its main mission seems to be to find and memorialize every white victim of interracial violence. It never mentions white perpetrators. In that sense, it is pure propaganda, and most people would call it hateful propaganda. However, the C of CC does not make these stories up. It finds crimes that are reported locally, lists them, and argues that if the races were reversed, at least some of them would be headline news.

Roof “was in disbelief” that the press, which made a national racial scandal over George Zimmerman’s self-defense killing, completely ignored so many black-on-white murders, some of them barbaric, some of them racially motivated. The C of CC’s propaganda may be shocking and deplorable, but it contains more than a grain of truth. Disaffected whites take it as a truism that the press underreports black-on-white violence, and there is reason to think they are right.

Every year, in what is called the National Crime Victimization Survey, the Justice Department gathers detailed victim reports—including race of attacker—from a sample of more than 100,000 Americans. Survey data offer a clearer picture of interracial crime than counting arrest records because it eliminates any possibility of police bias. The latest figures for 2012 and 2013 show that of the nearly 600,000 crimes of interracial violence involving blacks and whites committed each year, blacks were the attackers 84.5 percent of the time. The proportions have been about the same for decades.

This is a huge, black-on-white imbalance. Some would argue that this is because there are five times as many whites as blacks, so black criminals are simply more likely to encounter white victims. However, in the case of interracial crime involving blacks and Hispanics, the proportions are similar: Blacks were attackers 82.5 percent of the time, despite the fact that there are only about 30 percent more Hispanics than blacks.

There may therefore be some justification for the view among disaffected whites that blacks deliberately target people of other races. Violent “flash mobs” are almost always made up of young blacks who mainly rob and beat whites. The “knock out game,” in which someone tries to knock out a victim with a single punch, has also been called “polar bear hunting” because the perpetrators are almost always black and the victims are almost always white.

The victimization survey bears this out. When whites commit violence they chose blacks as victims only 3.6 percent of the time, whereas violent blacks chose whites as victims almost as often as they chose blacks (38.6 percent vs. 40.9 percent, while 14.5 percent of their victims were Hispanic). To express the figures differently, although the individual likelihood was extremely low, a black person was 27 times more likely to attack a white than vice versa.

Figures of this kind circulate among disaffected whites, but they are little known outside such circles. They are buried within the justice department data and must be calculated. Disaffected whites generally assume that the larger media are not interested in the overwhelmingly black-on-white nature of interracial crime, and would not write about even if they were aware of it. They may not be mistaken.

To be sure, whites are more likely to be victimized by other whites than by people of other races. Fifty-six percent of the people who attacked whites were white, and only 13.7 percent were black (11.9 percent were Hispanic, 12.1 percent wee “other,” and 7.8 percent were “unknown), but it is interracial violence that damages race relations.

If a black man had entered Emanuel AME Church and killed the same nine people it would have been a horrible crime, but President Obama would not have spoken at their funerals and there would be no national self-examination. Over Memorial Day weekend, 12 people were shot to death in Chicago and nine in Baltimore. Since the shooters were black, it was routine news; if Dylann Roof had shot them, it would have been a national tragedy.

There have been black-on-white crimes of such brutality and drama that disaffected whites may be justified in thinking that if whites had done equally horrible things to blacks there would have been widespread outrage.

In 2000, two black brothers, Reginald and Jonathan Carr, broke into a Wichita home in which three white men and two white women, all in their 20s, were spending the night. The Carrs stripped and bound all five, and over the course of several hours beat the men and repeatedly raped the women. They forced both the men and the women at gun point to commit sex acts on each other. They took each individually to ATM machines and forced them to withdraw money. They then drove the victims—three stuffed into the trunk of a car, the men naked and the women naked from the waist down—to a remote soccer field, where they forced them to kneel in the snow, shot them all execution style, and ran them over with a truck. One woman miraculously survived, and walked nearly a mile in sub-freezing weather to report the crimes.

In 2007 in Knoxville, three blacks hijacked Christopher Newsom and his girlfriend, Channon Christian. They bound and gagged Newsome, raped him anally with an object, walked him barefoot to train tracks, where they shot and killed him. His attackers then set fire to his body. Christian was repeatedly raped orally and vaginally over a period of several hours, and her vaginal area was beaten to a pulp. Her attackers sprayed bleach down her throat. They then tied her up, wrapped her in garbage bags, and stuffed into a garbage can where she suffocated to death. Neither of these incidents gained much national attention, and in neither case did authorities make any attempt to determine if the criminals had a racial motive.

It is hard to find crimes of such brutality by whites against blacks, but when they occur they become well known. Many people have heard of James Byrd. In 1998, three white men beat him savagely, urinated on him, chained him to the back of a pickup and dragged him to death. The two men most responsible for the crime, Lawrence Brewer and John King were described as white supremacists. During previous jail sentences they had joined a white prison gang in order to seek protection; King said he had been gang-raped in prison by blacks. Byrd’s name is now on both Texas state and federal hate crime laws, and the crime has been made into a feature-length documentary.

This case gained notoriety in part because it was seen as a racially motivated murder. Racially motivated murder of whites by blacks does not get the same attention. John Mohammad and Lee Malvo terrorized the entire Washington DC area during a 2002 shooting spree. Their crimes were world news—yet how many people heard that John Mohammad carried out the crimes because he believed that “the white man is the devil,” and that he planned to kill six white people a day for 30 days?

Other explicitly racial killings attract little attention. In Wilkinsburg, near Philadelphia, 39-year-old Ronald Taylor killed three men and wounded two others in a 2000 rampage, in which he targeted whites. At one point, he pushed a black woman out of his way, saying “Not you, sister. . . . I’m just out to kill all white people.”[1]Todd Spangler, “Pa. Cops Cite Anti-White Writings,” Associated Press, March 2, 2000. Tim Molloy, “Cops: Suspect’s Anger Was Simmering,” Associated Press, March 4, 2000.

Also in 2000, Obie Weathers of San Antonio, Texas, attacked but did not manage to kill two elderly white men. Later that day, he found 82-year-old Norma Petrash in her home and beat her to death. “I hate all white people,” he explained to a detective.[2]“Black Man May Face Hate Crime Charge,” United Press International, Feb. 15, 2000.

In 2005, Philip Grant stabbed Concetta Russo-Carriero to death in a parking lot in White Plains, New York. In a video-taped confession, he explained, “I was thinking that the first person I see this morning that looks white, I’m killing them. I have no remorse whatsoever because she was white.”[3]Jennifer Fermino and Andy Geller, “Mall Killer ‘fessed Up Quick: Cop,” New York Post, June 15, 2006. “Jury Convicts Man Who Killed Woman Because She Was White,” Associated Press, July 12, 2006.

In 2007, Steven Johnson was sentenced to 240 years in prison for shooting and wounding three white people and spraying kerosene on several others while he shouted that “white people are going to burn tonight.” He told police he was seeking revenge for the mistreatment of blacks.[4]Samuel Maull, “240-Year Prison Sentence For a Black Man Who Vowed to Burn Whites,” Associated Press, March 22, 2007.

In 2008, a white woman wept on the witness stand as she described her rape at the hands of a black man who broke into her apartment in Raleigh, North Carolina. He told her he was punishing her for the historic crimes of whites.[5]Sarah Ovaska, “Woman Tells of Attack,” News & Observer (Raleigh, NC), Feb. 7, 2008.

In 2009, Los Angeles police arrested a black man, John Floyd Thomas, Jr., thought to have been the most prolific serial killer in the city’s history. Over a period of more than a decade he raped and killed an estimated 30 older women. All were white.[6]Thomas Watkins, “Police Call Man LA’s ‘Largest Ever’ Serial Killer,” Associated Press, April 30, 2009.

In 2010, a black man, Omar Thornton, was caught on video stealing beer from the Connecticut distributor where he worked. Offered a choice between resigning and being fired, he shot eight white co-workers to death and wounded two more. Before shooting himself, Thornton phoned his mother and claimed the killings were retaliation for workplace racism. Other minority employees said his claims of racism were unfounded.

None of these crimes—and there are more with a clear racial motive—got national attention the way the Byrd killing and the Charleston shootings did.

In a way, the legal system recognizes the seriousness of all interracial crimes—not just white-on-black crimes—by designating some as hate crimes. The latest FBI hate crimes report includes 2,919 crimes motivated “on whole or in part” by race. Whites committed 52.4 percent of all bias crimes and blacks committed 24.3 percent (strangely, Hispanics are a victim category but not a perpetrator category and are grouped with whites). This means blacks were 2.89 times more likely than whites (including Hispanics) to commit hate crimes. The greater likelihood of blacks to commit bias crimes is well known by disaffected whites but rarely reported otherwise.

Hate criminals are eligible for enhanced penalties because bias is thought to be particularly damaging to society. However, which did more harm to race relations: the 2,919 crimes officially designated as racial hate crimes in 2013 or the nearly 600,000 black/white violent crimes (and the 950,000 crimes involving other racial combinations) that were not so designated? Interracial violence can leave deep scars; it is little comfort to the victim that the rapist or mugger did not happen say “ni**er” or “spic” or “white motherfu**er.” In an era of what may be increasing racial tension it would make sense to consider adding enhanced penalties to all violence that crosses racial lines.

It should now be clear that there really is a lot of black-on-white violence, some of it motivated by racial animus, but neither the media nor politicians pay much attention to it. The contrast with even ambiguous violence that goes the other way could not be more striking. President Obama spoke out in the Martin/Zimmerman case, famously saying, “If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon.” He took a similar position on the Ferguson shooting, saying it cast light on an unfair justice system that “stains the heart of black children” and judges people like Michael Brown “guilty of walking while black.”

This kind of sympathy and even identification with blacks who attacked people is deeply embittering to disaffected whites, and nudges other whites towards disaffection. Needless to say, the president expressed no sympathy for the families of the estimated 30 white women raped and killed by John Floyd Thomas, who was arrested during Mr. Obama’s first term. In his defense, he probably never heard of Thomas, since the case got scant coverage.

To my knowledge, President Obama has never said a word about black-on-white violence. I can think of no elected official who has. It would do a great deal of good if they did. High elected officials should condemn horrible crimes like those that have become known—among the disaffected—as the Wichita Massacre and the Knoxville Horror. Black-on-black violence is a subject of official concern and worry, and rightly so. But black-on-white (and Hispanic) violence is not only more frequent, it damages race relations every time it occurs.

If our country acknowledged the true dimensions of interracial crime, denounced it in all its forms, and forcefully condemned all who engage in it, Dylann Roof would not have had to go to a sensational, propaganda website to learn about it and might not have been unhinged by what he found. And there would be other benefits. If we strongly denounced blacks who prey on whites, shamed communities in which it occurred, and increased penalties for interracial crime there would surely be less of it.

Such changes are unlikely. The American media are afraid to “blame the victim”—even if the “victim” is a murderer. They are squeamish about mentioning race even when describing criminal suspects. The University of Minnesota campus police just announced it would remove race from most suspect descriptions so as not to “reinforce stereotypes of black men as threats and create a hostile campus climate.” Any politician who denounced black-on-white (or Hispanic) crime would be attacked for “racial stereotyping,” yet virtually no one calls it “racial stereotyping” when the media assume that any given white policeman is likely to be racist.

The reality of interracial crime will probably remain a taboo subject, which means future Dylann Roofs could be shocked into violence when they discover it.

Making Things Worse

In the rush to take action after the Charleston killings we are already doing things that will make similar attacks more likely, not less. There have been strong calls to emphasize the racial sins of the past and to make doubly sure that every new generation learns about them. The Atlantic, for example, published a syllabus of readings to help “understand the Charleston shootings.” It is all about slavery, Jim Crow, and the civil rights movement.

This will not help. As far back as 1992, more American 17-year-olds could identify Harriet Tubman than Churchill or Stalin. In 2008, researchers asked 2,000 high school juniors and seniors to write down the names of “the most famous Americans in history,” excluding presidents and first ladies. All the top three were black: 1. Martin Luther King, Jr., 2. Rosa Parks, 3. Harriet Tubman.

It is important for Americans to study history. But disaffected young men like Dylann Roof started learning about slavery and segregation in grade school. Constantly rubbing their noses in a past for which they are not responsible may make some feel guilty but it makes others angry. The latest innovation in this line—telling young people that they benefit from unearned “white privilege”—makes them even angrier. Silence about black-on-white crime today is far more relevant and compelling to them than lectures on slavery, which ended 150 years ago.

At the same time, what effect does all this have on blacks? What better way to teach blacks to hate whites than to remind them constantly of lynching and Jim Crow, to blame their misfortunes and failures on “institutional racism,” and to make racial martyrs out of doubtful figures such as Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown? Surely, this emphasis on white racism, past and present, contributes to black overrepresentation not just in interracial crime but in hate crimes.

The current wave of condemnation of the Confederate flag could also make things worse. Does anyone really believe that Dylann Roof killed nine blacks in cold blood because the flag flies at the statehouse or because he could have bought a Confederate flag iPhone cover at Walmart? Roof seems to have adopted the flag as his banner in the race war he was trying to start, but the flag did not cause his disaffection.

Difficult as it may be for some Northerners to believe, for most Southerners the battle flag really does symbolize pride in their heritage. Even after the Charleston shooting, even in the face of a tidal wave of condemnation, 75 percent of white Southerners said the flag was a symbol of pride, and only 18 percent said it stood for racism. A 57 percent majority of all Americans—black and white, North and South—see the flag as a symbol of Southern pride rather than racism (though 75 percent of Southern blacks see it as a symbol of racism).

It is presumptuous for people who never lived in the South to tell Southerners what their flag means. In former British colonies the Union Jack may be a symbol of imperialism, but that does not give Kenyans or Jamaicans the right to lecture the British on what the flag should mean in Britain.

Every racial group in this country is encouraged to take pride in its heritage, its culture, its symbols, and its ancestors. The only exception is whites and especially Southern whites. They are supposed to be ashamed of a heritage in which slavery now plays so bloated a role that hardly anything else is thought to remain.

Does anyone really believe that banning the flag will deter future Dylann Roofs? Can flag opponents not see what an insult it is to Southerners when their cherished flag is treated with scorn, removed from monuments and Civil War battlefields, and even banned from war reenactment video games at the Apple Store? This contempt for their feelings could drive yet more Southern whites into alienation and disaffection. It is true that many blacks do not like the flag, but future Dylann Roofs will ask why the feelings of blacks are more important than the feelings of whites.

There were other reasons for Dylann Roof’s disaffection, and his rambling manifesto hints at some of them: Blacks are encouraged to be preoccupied with race and to advance their interests while whites are told they have no legitimate interests; immigration and demographic trends are reducing whites to a minority; the national enthusiasm for diversity means valuing every other group over white men; whites are treated as the villains of history and rarely credited for their contributions; there is strong evidence that races are different and unequal but scientists who study race risk their careers.

Many disaffected whites would agree with Roof. The truth or significance of each of these points can be debated, and each can be evaluated in terms of whether it is a genuine grievance. But part of the grievance is that these points are not debated. Away from the seamy corners of the Internet, there is no public forum in which the views of disaffected whites can be seriously considered, refined, debated, or corrected.

In 2009, Eric Holder called America a “nation of cowards,” because it refuses to talk about race. Five years later he repeated the charge. I suspect that Eric Holder would not consider anything in Dylann Roof’s manifesto a legitimate subject of conversation. I suspect he would be indignant at the idea that whites could have legitimate grievances. I’m sure many whites would agree. But if white grievance is ever laid to rest, it will be only through honest debate of the kind we do not have.

Rightly or wrongly, those grievances are spreading. Dismissing them as ignorance and silencing those who express them only drives them underground, where they feed bitterness and disaffection. It is my fervent desire that white grievance—real or imagined—never again erupt into murderous violence. But I fear that, though they may have good intentions, many of our political and media leaders are following a course that makes it more likely.


[1] Todd Spangler, “Pa. Cops Cite Anti-White Writings,” Associated Press, March 2, 2000. Tim Molloy, “Cops: Suspect’s Anger Was Simmering,” Associated Press, March 4, 2000.

[2] “Black Man May Face Hate Crime Charge,” United Press International, Feb. 15, 2000.

[3] Jennifer Fermino and Andy Geller, “Mall Killer ‘fessed Up Quick: Cop,” New York Post, June 15, 2006. “Jury Convicts Man Who Killed Woman Because She Was White,” Associated Press, July 12, 2006.

[4] Samuel Maull, “240-Year Prison Sentence For a Black Man Who Vowed to Burn Whites,” Associated Press, March 22, 2007.

[5] Sarah Ovaska, “Woman Tells of Attack,” News & Observer (Raleigh, NC), Feb. 7, 2008.

[6] Thomas Watkins, “Police Call Man LA’s ‘Largest Ever’ Serial Killer,” Associated Press, April 30, 2009.

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  1. A prominent Democrat, retired four star General Wesley Clark, thinks the FBI should identify “radicalized” Americans and toss them in re-education camps just like the communists. He said this on national television but no one was outraged. If an American seems upset by the loss of a girlfriend or can’t get a job and may do something violent, lock them up says the General.

  2. joe webb says:

    I repost this from the Fred Reed Column with the stars and bars image that I just posted, #200 I think.

    This happened a couple days ago.

    (But before that, an extrapolation from the Fed Justice Dept on the rates of black on white vs. white on black murders results in a 12.8 differential. That is, blacks murder whites almost 13 times more often than whites murder blacks. This is a per capita figure.)

    Jared Taylor rightly addressed two aspects of the fix we are in: one is the lies of the liberal media, and the second is the reaction, particularly of young people, to discovering said lies.

    Lies tend to affect adults similarly, despite the jaded character of most of us, it is just that grown-ups are cynical, weary, and therefore more tolerant of the lies. So what else is new? they say.

    Kids react out of their innocence of the world and its lies….say it isn’t true Barry!

    post card from Menlo Park, CA, the home of the upper middle-class, techies, older money, very white, beautiful white children with blondeism dominant, and safe.

    So I stop in at a burger joint on the west side and am parking my big Dodge 2500 pickup in the parking lot, and in front of me is a red customized Mustang with a couple mexicans and a black very dude strutting around. Very unusual for Menlo Park which has no blacks but some mexers about as they do work.

    I should have realized there was a reason for the empty parking space…Blackness and Brownness.
    As I am careful manouvering my big truck, aforesaid Blackness representative circles me and comments on my parking job.

    When I get out, he tells me that if I touch his car he is going to beat my ass, which is unnecessary since the truck is parked already. Big blue eyed debil stimulating the already warmed up amygdala of said spade, probably due to drugs. The Mexicans say nothing (as they probably work at the burger joint). Also, my physical size and fitness is evident due to tank-top and shorts. I size the dude up and figure if he attacks it is a head shot, or throat shot if possible in defense.

    My manner is cool and the spade backs off toward his car, turning away.

    I go into the joint and call the cops. They come, but the car and spade are gone. However another unit pulls the mustang over a few blocks away. The cop with myself tells me about the “criminal threat” law, and that it is tough to apply in this case.
    If I ” touch his car” as a condition of his attacking me is the legal nicety which apparently makes arresting the spade problematic.

    Cops are supposed to call me back…am hoping that they found drugs, etc. , that the “unarmed black suspect” goes berserk and that the cops shoot him dead. Menlo Park gets on the map of cops killing unarmed black suspects.

    Joe Webb

  3. donut says:

    You limp wristed wind bag . “If we want to prevent more Dylann Roofs” . Every day Negros attack white people because they are white , are you going to stop that by waving your soft flabby hands in the air declaring your love for all mankind ? “why can’t we all just get along ?” Root and branch bitch .

    • Replies: @conatus
    , @AndrewR
  4. Ewan MacErc says: • Website

    Scanning this article, I’m struck that Mr. Taylor does not make an observation that, to me, seems obvious, and directly involves him.

    Whites lack a single clear voice or advocate in the media. I’m guessing that made the personal discovery of plain statistical evidence of black criminality more shocking for Roof. That criminality is so obvious, yet all the hired racial advocates on television advocate for blacks and deliberately, relentlessly obscure the facts, denouncing anyone who even begins to approach it.

    Had Roof felt he had an advocate in the mainstream with whom he could identify, he likely would have felt less grievance.

    There was a time not long ago when Mr. Taylor seemed to be on the verge of more media visibility. Then groups like the SPLC worked to put in place a media blackout against him.

    Mr. Taylor is so gentlemanly and self-effacing, maybe he’s allergic to making what might appear to be a self-serving point, so I’ll make it for him–Roof may have been so erratic and mentally addled that he’d have committed some form of violence regardless, but, as it relates to his stated grievance–if people like Mr. Taylor had greater visibility, and whites felt that these matters were being considered and addressed, such acts of violence would be less likely to occur.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  5. Maj. Kong says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    Did Clark screw up the use of “prisoners of war” ?

    My understanding of WWII internment is that the term was “enemy aliens”, if one actually was supporting the declared enemy, that was called “treason” or if simply speaking/writing it was called “sedition” “espionage”.

    I’m guessing using the term POW salves the liberal consciousness better than using “enemy combatant”, which is what he seems to be implying. A chain of Gitmos, founded on the “rehabilitation” model from Saudi Arabia.

  6. Jared Taylor simply takes this event, as described in the media at face value. He does not at any point entertain the possibility that this whole event is a staged psy-op. I am not 100% sure, I suppose, but if it swims like duck, waddles like a duck, and quacks like a duck….

    The conjunction of a live shooter drill at the same time as the real event… yet again, the drill just happens to coincide with the real event of the nature of that being drilled!!??

    I think the black kid who made the following videos is actually a lot smarter than Jared.

    • Replies: @Deduction
  7. The tools have always been there but there is a refusal to act. The KKK was/is a domestic terrorist organization and they have gotten away with their activities for over 100 years though in the last 50 years or so they have softened and reframed their manifesto into the Lee Atwater Strategy Template whereby one can identify them by the ‘sovereign nation; moniker, and thinly veiled words used to describe their fear of certain members of the citizenry. Or they start off their conversation by claiming they have a black friend or start off by claiming stuff like ‘let me tell you about the negro…………. Radicalization and racialization share the same roots of distrust, discord, ignorance and stupidity, etc and it is tolerated in the name of freedom and Fist Amendment rights and that will be the problem.

    If owning black people is a sign of white pride or passing laws made legal to facilitate white people feeling good about themselves then that is a problem if they insist on calling it white culture because that is the phrasing of their positioning on the matter. When the Civil Rights Act initiatives were in force for equity before the law, it was the CONfederate flag that was used as opposition to said Act. Again, if that is white culture per the present fiasco, then we are all inm for a pile of crap.

    • Replies: @jsm
    , @Stealth
  8. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Dylann Roof was living in a 93% black neighborhood.

    Was he the victim of the local youth gang?

    The way the church people and his black friends reacted after the killings doesn’t make sense unless he was and they knew it.

    So the solution would be to get the media – especially the NYT – to stop lying about black youth crime.

  9. Art says:

    Stop giving boys mind altering drugs – end of story.

    All of these killer young men have been given psychosomatic prescription drugs that alter their minds in their youth.

    We never hear about it because the Jew controlled media and the US congress will not touch the subject — too much money involved!

  10. Truth says:

    This article is an avalanche of reactionary, feminine-emotion infused blather, 0vershadowing some truth.

    Again it would take an hour of fisking to point out every inconsistency, but we will start with one:

    “Therefore, it is no wonder Dylann Roof was surprised to learn that Martin profiled Zimmerman as a “creepy-ass cracker,” knocked him to the ground, broke his nose, and continued to beat him until Zimmerman fired a single shot from his licensed handgun. This case would have attracted little attention if Martin had been white, and it should not be treated as a telling example of white racism.”

    The doings of the Martin – Zimmerman affair are conjecture. There is no video, and no eyewitnesses as to the start of the altercation, simply the word of a man who was trying to avoid a long jail sentence. Martin, a teenager was being followed around, at night, by an older man. Having (allegedly) done nothing wrong, this would puzzle most teenagers. There is no independent verification, video or audio evidence as to who started the fight, and Zimmerman’s being knocked to the ground, may just have been evidence of a big mouth combined with a lack of fighting skill (he has been arrested multiple times since the incident, so I do not feel that this is a stretch).

    One of the major problems with men in our society today is their increasingly feminine dearth of logic. Certainly one could make the point that Dylann Roof shot nine people because of black v. white assault rates, one could also make the point that Channon Christian was raped and murdered because of “fo’ hunnit years of slavery.”

    • Replies: @Curle
    , @WGG
    , @David In TN
  11. Excellent article. This is the ‘honest conversation about race’ that we should be having. Should being the operative word here. Unfortunately given the social & political circumstances, aided and abetted by an hysterical and infantile media, I don’t think we are ever going to have it. Having said that though – it was refreshing to at last have some rationality and a reasonsed insight into this event. As I said, excellent article. It’s just so disheartening that others in the media cannot or refuse to emulate Mr Taylors example.

  12. rod1963 says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    You mean that perfumed buffoon who almost started WWIII with the Russians over Serbia?

    They don’t get any worse than him – with the possible exception of insane McCain.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  13. rod1963 says:

    There will be more Roots(and Briveks), our elites actions will all but guarantee it as whites get pushed into a corner. The only way to prevent more Roots or a Brivek is to provide a community for such young people to know they are not alone and help them. But I don’t see this happening for a number of reasons. The main one being that the Feds and Left won’t tolerate it.

    More importantly, people need to understand our political/intellectual/entertainment elites despise the ordinary whites. Look at the response to Trump bringing up illegal immigration, the elites and establishment, including the Chambers of Commerce went collectively nuts. Some of them were literally spitting his name on TV like some pit viper. They went bonkers because he brought to public awareness and discussion something that the elites preferred to keep buried(along with illegal trade agreements that have devastated the country).

    I don’t claim to understand the whats in the hearts of the educated and monied elite towards us, but it’s obvious as the sun rises in the morning they want us gone that they are working hard against us. It may not be blatantly genocide but it’s damn close.

    Look at the response to the Chattanooga(or Ft. Hood) shooting by a Jihadist, Obama didn’t do squat to protect our reserve military sites(why? because they are mostly staffed by whites whom he despises), the white Democrats lined up in loyalty with him. His generals made excuses why we must keep our troops soft targets.

    Look at Pam Geller’s cartoon convention where two Muslim psychopaths tried to murder the attendees. The outrage was against Geller for holding the convention and deaths of the two Muslim thugs.

    Or the Left’s(and MSM) obsession with gun confiscation. The target has always been law abiding whites. They know full well that criminals will ignore it. They want us disarmed because it makes defenseless like the Brits and you know what’s happening to them.

    Or the war against Western civilization waged in our colleges and by our intellectual class.

    Maybe it’s not war but at the very least it’s a collective death wish led by the congenital idiots that constitute the white ruling elite.

    Either way, we’re on our own.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  14. @Carlton Meyer

    @Carlton Meyer
    That is extremely terrifying because his definition of “treason” and “self-radicalization” is extremely subjective and malleable.

  15. How Can We Prevent Future Dylann Roofs?

    Simple. Don’t make a mass-media sensation out of him. Deny him and those like him the fame they crave.

    Of course, when they fit favored MSM narratives as neatly as this one did, that may be wishful thinking. But it’s how to prevent them, in case anyone really wants to.

  16. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The reason he killed so many people praying at a church is because he is a mentally retarded violent ape.

  17. Realist says:

    General Wesley Clark is a loony bastard just like most ex military talking heads on MSM.

    • Agree: John Jeremiah Smith
  18. Powerful article. Too bad, but no surprise, that the “prestigious national magazine” wouldn’t touch it. That’s the point, isn’t it?

    A quibble: “the races are different and unequal.” I think that when Thomas Jefferson wrote that all men are created equal, he meant that no one is born to rule over any other. I think that this is the meaning of “equal” people would expect in this context. So to many Mr. Taylor is saying that some races really are meant to rule over others, which is unlikely to be his meaning.


  19. EdwardM says:

    Great article as always, Mr. Taylor, but I find it hard to believe that any mainstream media source would publish it, no matter who the author was. Too many hate-facts.

  20. conatus says:

    Collective guilt is overused when it comes to YT and rarely used when it comes to minorities. With minorities we are always told it is a ‘stereotype ‘ but with YT it is the one horrible example that proves the rule.
    How is this collective guilt thing gonna work when we all have to disavow talking to some guy online who said something bad about 10 years ago? But it is still there in the cloud. It seems to me that the ever widening shadow of collective guilt and its penumbral emanations could possibly encompass a very large segment of the population. In this case it is just YT so it is an opportunity to demonstrate our social savvy and jump on board the Guilt Trip Express(buy a ticket, rise in social status). In the future it might not just be the Confederate flag, or very unfashionable YT, it might be an issue that causes you lose your home because of past associations that, at the time were not actionable. This widening collective guilt might inspire the government to tax you to penury using the rationale of say ‘white privilege’ and the new god of equality.. Watch out for the misuse of collective guilt or it might come back and bite you on the ass, like a long leashed dog.

  21. conatus says:

    Jared Taylor is the only spokesperson I have ever seen who would not crumble in fashionable appeasement under the accusations of collective guilt. Here for five minutes, he parrys guilt-by-association accusations, and continues to mention the salient statistic of 85% Black on white interracial crimes.

    In the heat of a national fever of self recrimination the fact that Mr. Taylor keeps his head when all others in the media are losing theirs says a boatload about this guy’s coolness. I don’t think they teach that kind of independence of thought at Yale anymore. Actually I think they encourage the Lemming Guilt Trip Express Bus ride up at New Haven.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  22. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    How do we stop actors like Dylann Roof? Disband the CIA and FBI.

    The FBI DOES identify young, radicalized, psychiatric-drugged up young men and pushes them to do exactly what Mr. Roof has done. I’d be willing to bet big money that there is an FBI operative somewhere in Mr. Roof’s recent past. There always is.

    The plan to “identify and institutionalize” young people like Mr. Roof will lead to more trained killers, not peace on earth.

  23. Jaggers says:

    I agree with everything in this article. I think it’s interesting, though, that as far as violent crimes against whites, blacks only account for 13 percent, which is actually on par with their share of the population. Yes, they are responsible for the vast majority of interracial crime, but somehow that 13 percent does not seem to make sense.

    • Replies: @joe webb
  24. The massacre at the Emanuel AME Church has shaken our country more than any event since the attacks of September 11.

    Since then, there have been about 112,000 black murder victims, virtually all by other blacks. We’re not very shaken from that.

    We can not create a perfect society where 100% of murders are intraracial. It will still occasionally happen, especially when different races live in the same neighborhood.

    have a lot of black friends on Facebook, or choose a black man, Christon Scriven, as his favorite drinking companion.

    A black school mate, Antonio Metze, also confirmed that Roof had black friends.

    at school, blacks and whites exchanged innocent racial jokes.

    Dylan lived in a black neighborhood, went to a black school and had a lot of black friends. Different races living in proximity like that increases interracial crime. The only way to approach a 100% intraracial crime rate is to have more racial segregation.

  25. Jason says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    Notice that no one puts forward the more basic idea: quit importing tens of millions of Muslims to the West.

  26. This article was posted on Monday. On the weekend in Chicago, 32 people were shot, of whom 6 died. Country not shaken. Fortunately, Blacks in Chicago live in their own neighborhoods and don’t fraternize with others, so it’s all intraracial and not cause for concern.

  27. Nitpicking on format. Big giant Dylan head is too big.

  28. Aurelius says:

    Of course Jared is correct in these observations. The shame is that the national media outlets with their ability to shape public opinion on a large scale could reduce the occurrence of black-on-white crime and the faux black victimology meme by simply exposing the truth and starting a national discussion on real interracial crime.

    Instead, they studiously hide the truth and reinforce the white man as devil delusion. More people lashing out in Roof fashion seems likely.

  29. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Great Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:

    Hey Asianphile Jared

    What about Asian on White Violence…its called the H1-L1 B Visa Program much beloved by your pet John Engleman.

    Dylan Roof is an example off where your sicko obsession with IQ test psychometrics leads to. What if there was a National Origins Immigration Policy in place that completely excluded Asains? Here is what would have happened:Rural Young Southern White Males would become much more valuable to American Society…and as a consequence, American Society would be forced to turn inward and develop young Rural Young Southern White Males for careers in engineering…young males such as Dylan Roof…..

  30. Taylor wrote this for publication in a mainstream media rag? Somebody needs to check him for signs of dementia. He’s been at this long enough to know that (1) its a few thousand words too long and (2) contains hate facts which will never see the inside of any “respectable” publication.

    But my primary reason for commenting here is that Taylor overlooks something significant in his discussion of disaffected whites. North of the Mason-Dixon exists an enormous population of whites descended from those who fought for or supported the Union. We have no connection (other than perhaps our ancestors wearing clothing made from cotton picked by slaves) to slavery. In fact, we sacrificed hundreds of thousands of our men to free the slaves. Later on, we gave jobs to millions of Africans so they could get off their plantations and support their families.

    Let’s look at how Yankee whites have been repaid for our ultimate sacrifices on behalf of the Africans. We have been victimized by African crime – millions of us have been assaulted, robbed, raped, and murdered. We have seen our cities utterly destroyed – Detroit was one of the greatest cities in the world before the Africans turned it into a post-apocalyptic hell. Henry Ford offered Africans the highest wage in the world, the same wage he paid to white laborers, and his thanks was destruction of the city he helped build.

    Has ANY Yankee white ever heard an African say “thank you”? Africans hate northern whites just as much (perhaps more) as they hate southern whites. Many of the most dangerous places in America for white people are in northern African neighborhoods. Forget the fact that only 6% of southern whites every owned a slave, the African is an equal opportunity hater. If your ancestors worked on the Underground Railroad and died fighting in Sherman’s army, you will still be assaulted, robbed, raped, and murdered in Detroit, Philadelphia, Newark, Chicago, etc.

    How’s that for “disaffected”?

  31. Curle says:

    There is no independent verification, video or audio evidence as to who started the fight

    There was an eyewitness who reported that she heard two people, both running, one following the other, pass by her apartment going right to left from the door. She opened the door to look out and at that time saw Martin on top of Zimmerman. To imagine that Zimmerman pursued Martin, caught him and began beating him only to lose whatever advantage a smaller fatter man could have imagined himself capable of achieving by such a pursuit in such a short period of time requires an adventure in fantasy that only the insane lefties (and morons) could conceive. Further, a normal person walking in a neighborhood not otherwise frequented by the public to which he was a stranger would imagine, if they weren’t a moron, that persons would be curious as to their identity. Even Bob Dylan was reported to police when he was engaged in a similar walking expedition in a strange neighborhood not too long ago.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Jason Sylvester
  32. Gene Su says:

    I wonder if Jared Taylor knows that many blacks would take his essay to be a form of nasty hypocrisy. They are going to says that it means to black criminals are responsible but white criminals like Dylan Roof are not. It would mean that white criminals have legitimate gripes but not blacks.
    Remember, before you point your finger at someone else, ten will point back at you.

    • Replies: @GW
    , @Stealth
    , @Bernie
  33. Marian says:

    Black, white- they need jobs. They need responsibility to occupy their time. Unfortunately our overlords would rather wind up the young men in hopes of creating violence to empower themselves.

  34. WGG [AKA "World\'s Greatest Grandson"] says:

    Logic? Negro slavery ended a century and a half ago. Modern blacks have never even met a slave, much less been one. Whites on the other hand are *currently* the victims of anti-white pogroms which are encouraged and excused by the pillars of power in our nation: universities, journalism, Hollywood and government.

    Slavery is only a problem in your fevered imagination- it has passed. The murder and rape of friends and loved ones by angry blacks against whites is a real and ever-encouraged problem.

    Why do those in the media stoke this blood libel against whites? That is the real question. Mr. Taylor will never answer it. Nor will any writer on this website. But people in power at universities, Hollywood studios and journalism outlets generally share certain traits. And they have used these kinds of blood libels as a means of control in other countries at other times in history. It is just a simple fact.

    • Replies: @Truth
  35. GW says:
    @Gene Su

    It wasn’t meant for blacks. And he isn’t saying Roof bears no responsibility.

    0 for 2.

  36. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Great Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:

    Imagine an America where the 1965 Immigration Reform Act was never passed…A National Origins Immigration Policy that completely excluded Asians and Muslims.

    America 2015 would=90 percent Native Born White American. America 2015 tech workforce 95 Native Born White American. America 2015=high wage economy. This of course, was the America of pre-1965.

    Jared Taylor’s obsession with IQ test score psychometrics has sidetracked massively away from this “debating” framework…and it is the reason I was banned from posting on American Renaissance because I pushed this framework unrelentingly.

    Dylan Roof is the victim of Asian legal immigration which rendered thousands of Southern-Apalachian Young White Native Born White American Males economically redundant in the New “America”.

    Asian legal immigrants have warped and distorted American Labor Policy which should have been focused on developing Young Southern-Apalachian Native Born White American Males for careers in science…engineeering and medicine. The Asian Fifth Column should be thrown out of the US. Imagine an American Renaissance that focused on, and pushed unrelentingly this framework from day 1 of its existence as a White Advocacy Organization.

    The obsession with IQ test score psychometrics has been a cancer on the movement to halt and reverse the open and deliberate policy of the majority nonwhite Democratic Party Voting Bloc to rapidly race-replace The Historic Native Born White American Majority…..I was banned from posting on American Renaissance by an Asianphile AR comments moderator named John Engleman who agitates in the AR comments section for rapid race-replacement policy….

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  37. Flower says:

    John Brunner, in his book, “Stand On Zanzibar”, called them “muckers”. People who had run amuck, who became unusually fierce, destructive, lethal, and undeniably insane. Brunner published the book in 1968. I don’t know if he wrote it before, during, or after Charles Whitman dragged his footlocker up the steps of the University of Texas Library tower, but I’m sure that the incident figured into Brunner’s assessment.

    I haven’t been able to find out much about this case. In the current mood of the MSM, there are no stories dealing with “news”, it’s wall to wall opinion pieces. The reporter may report the facts, but by the time it hits the front page, it’s an op-ed.

    Has it never occurred to anyone that these Dylan Roof episodes are really just social Rorschach tests? The press, i.e. the govt, splats out a half-told story with absurd facts and including people doing the most nonsensical, illogical actions, and wrapped up with a nice little theme that always, always, always supports the latest angle the govt wants told. And everybody gets to see what they want to see, in fact, the more the merrier! And all you need to do to keep it stirred up is to release just enough facts and rumors so that each faction has enough bile to declare war. The blacks get this set of facts, the whites get those facts, the Hispanics get to hear something else, and not one of them close to the truth. And we sit here wondering how we can prevent more Dylan Roofs?

    For those who are sceptical, I dare you to do this: get (either from the net or your local library?) a copy of the LIFE magazine that covered the Whitman shootings in Austin that day (8/1/66). As I remember, most of that issue of LIFE was about that tragedy. But read it. As you read it, note the lack of inflammatory language. No one is shouting racial this or that or economic this or that. Now, compare that article to the shite storm the MSM pukes out on demand over anything they think can be twisted to support the latest mommy edict.

    The short answer: you can’t. What Dylan Roof did was a personal choice, and unless you have a third sight that allows you to look into the heart of a man, you have no idea what he is up to until the bullet leaves the muzzle. If you think that by going thru the latest, trendy psycho-babble crapola that you are going to change anything, you are going to be disappointed. All that the psycho-babble does through the clever use of words is be able to blame the incident on whoever they want. What do you suppose Dylan Roof was doing all the time he was sitting in that church? He was talking himself into it. If he had had murder on his mind the whole time, he would have opened up as soon as he walked in the door. There was always the chance that Dylan Roof could have changed his mind and walked back home. For all you know, this may have been the 10th time good ol’ Dylan had attempted to go thru with his plan.

    You will not prevent any further occurrences of Dylan Roof, or James Egan Holmes, or John Hinckley or any other “mucker”. However, you may mitigate the number of explosions if you can reign in your press and your govt to quit using this shit to inflame even more incidents. Good luck with that.

  38. Qasim says:

    Excellent article.

    However, I wonder if Mr. Taylor would be receptive to this sort of analysis being used to evaluate Islamic terrorism as opposed to white terrorism.

    So, if someone were to note that Westerners (via their militaries) kill many more Muslims than vice versa, or that the mainstream media hides the pictures and reports of ghastly killings via drone strikes, or the Assad regime, or in Palestine, and that these images when discovered can cause disaffected drug using young Muslim men to snap, or that if the media and goverment do not start taking the legitimate grievances Muslims have over US foreign policy more seriously, more attacks are likely to occur, would Mr. Taylor find these sorts of arguments convincing?

    The articles posted daily on his American Renaissance website seem to suggest otherwise. They routinely post numerous instances of Muslim terrorism, and the short bylines they put under the articles are generally snarky shots at the barbarity of Muslims as a whole. Furthermore, the featured articles they publish or the video shorts (some by Taylor himself) are quick to demonize with a broad brush; the nuance of the above article is notably absent.

    One should not call for a nuanced understanding of the underpinnings of violence when the perpetrator is “one’s own” but then make as much hay as possible when the violence arises from the other.

  39. conatus says:

    What is with the name calling animus?Jared Taylor has given more speeches at hostile venues and taken more s**t than anyone I know. He is a constant presence sticking up for YT.He has so for 25 years or more. Where did you get such hairy chested courage that allows you to play big brave Internet bully?
    Perhaps you could just disappear into your hole?

  40. Wally [AKA "BobbyBeGood"] says: • Website

    That many whites die violently at the hands of blacks EVERYDAY. Where is the outrage?


    Are Most “Mass Murderers” Really White?

    • Replies: @Truth
  41. I agree with most of the article and I’ve learned a lot from reading Jared Taylor ever since the 1990s, but wow, that article was way too long. Could have been a really nice short article that got across a simple, brief point: address the “root cause” of the violence. But at one point he got carried away by his own rhetoric and kind of forgot the “Gee, I’m just trying to prevent further violence” excuse.

    And did anyone notice that Taylor, thinking he’d be published under a pseudonym, wrote that the Council of Conservative Citizens website “is pure propaganda, and most people would call it hateful propaganda”? He called an official publication of the organization for which he’s the official spokesman “a sensational, propaganda website” and “pure propaganda.” Wow. No editing the article before signing his real name?

    I usually like Taylor’s work, but what’s going on here?

  42. Leftist conservative [AKA "lcon"] says: • Website

    oh, look, yet another “hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil” Modern Race Relations for Dummies article from the Dissident Right.

    In this article you correctly note that anti-white multiculturalism has been crammed down our throats in school for decades now. Great of you to notice that. And you noted that whites are not allowed to have racial consciousness. Yup. That be the truth, all right.

    This anti-white multiculturalism is all part of a radical change in american culture. But why did this happen? Where did it come from?

    Large scale radical change does not happen at random. There are always reasons why these things happen.

    The fatal flaw of the Dissident Right is that they are not allowed to notice certain aspects of history. Really, this is a taboo. The Dissident Right has a taboo about asking ‘why’ things happen.

    It is taboo for liberals to notice that blacks are violent towards whites or that blacks are the most violent race on this planet.

    But the Dissident Right has its taboos as well. Economics racial history and historical perspective is taboo when it comes to the Dissident Right. It’s like all those old race riots from the 1800s have been wiped from the history books. Where is this economics-based racial history? It is sorely needed now. Why? Perspective.

    Because the history of the american racial labor conflict is taboo on the Dissident Right. All we are allowed to do on the Dissident Right is get our “two minute hate” on regarding liberals and blacks. We are forbidden to ask why or to put anti-white multiculturalism into perspective. Perspective. Such an important word.

    The Dissident Right (and the Establishment Right and the standard mainstream liberal doctrine) have all crammed our racial economics history down the memory hole. Forbidden stuff! Taboo!

    Go and google this phrase: Mass racial violence in the United States.

    You will get a wikipedia article. That is a very important article. That article will lead you down a path of history that has been avoided and forgotten by both the mainstream and dissident right.

    Study that article and the history it talks about. Study it well. Research the race riots it discusses. Those race riots it talks about contain the key to understanding why anti-white multiculturalism happened, about why white kids in america know much more about black history than white history, and why Dylann Roof did what he did. And that forgotten history contains a key to understanding why the Dissident Right has a taboo about Noticing Economics-Based Racial History.

    Perspective. Once you read and understand that forgotten racial economics-based history, you can put this anti-white multiculturalism into historical perspective.

    What is the gist of what we can glean from that wikipedia page? Answer: whites citizens of america have a long history of fighting to defend their economic turf from competing sources of labor, including blacks and immigrants.
    That’s right–Fighting. Fighting to defend our turf, fighting to keep out cheap black labor and cheap immigrant labor.

    And who wanted that cheap labor? Answer: those who buy labor. Who buys labor? The upper class and corporations.

    So that is an insight for you into the forgetten history of america. It’s still there. But they don’t really teach or emphasize that aspect of history. Instead, our schools emphasize the cruelty of white racism and slaveowning.

    Perspective. It all depends on perspective.

    So back when a man provided for his family with his strong back, white americans fought to defend their economic turf and keep out competitors. But the schools today don’t really teach that paradigm. They don’t like to tell us about Capital versus Labor when it comes to race.

    The upper class and the corporations that bought labor in the 1800s were also fighting against white americans. They fought to bring in cheap nonwhite and foreign labor. White americans were able to use jim crow and other political solutions to keep out cheap labor, at least to some degree.

    Then other changes took place in america. White collar work became more important. Education was necessary. But previously education has been primarily the domain of the upper class exclusively, of Capital. Higher education was a creation of, for and by the upper class, Capital, those who bought. As time went on, of course, the vast majority of college students were of the white working class. But the character and perspective of higher education is still based primarily on the perspective of Capital, those who buy labor.

    Looking back 100 years or more, how does the perspective of Capital towards cheap nonwhite and immigrant labor differ from the perspective of the white majority working class?

    The white workers saw the outsiders, the blacks and immigrants, as intruders, stealing the bread from the mouths of their families.

    Capital, on the other hand, those who bought labor, saw cheap black and immigrant labor as a boon, as putting bread into the mouths of their families’ mouths.

    Different perspectives that are based on different and adversarial personal interests.

    So, advances in technology made white collar work and college education more widespread. But college was the creation of the upper class, and of course its perspectives were those of the upper class.

    So do you think higher education would portray nonwhites and immigrants as good or bad?

    So do you think you now see why our current educational curriculum is slanted towards portraying whites in general as the devils of history?

    Do you now understand why we are told these things in school about our history?

    Do you see why the upper class has cherry picked history to present a certain perspective?

    Do you see why white guilt puts money into the wallets of Capital?

    You get to them young and you own them for life. With a few exceptions.

    • Replies: @rod1963
  43. @Qasim

    Muslims are alien to the West. They should be contained within their desert regions of the planet, free to carry on their primitive beliefs, and harming no one but themselves. The amount of blood that will now be required to drive these aliens from our homelands will be staggering. Nevertheless, it must eventually be done. They must leave either voluntarily or by the scruffs of their necks.

  44. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Great Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:

    Since we are on the topic of the mass slaughter of the innocent:….The highly racialized majority nonwhite Democratic Party has murdered over two thousand Conservative Orthodox Christian Russian Speaking Ukranians over the past few years…with the full blessing of the SPLC…and since the SPLC=The Democratic Party…the Democratic Party=The SPLC has murdered way more innocent human beings than Dylan Roof!!!!!!!!!!!!

  45. Gene Su says:

    Here are a couple of what ifs for all those reading this to ponder:

    What if there were more Dylann Roof’s?
    What if there were massacres of innocent blacks every week?
    What if the white-on-black murder rate suddenly increased?

    How would whites react?
    How would blacks react?
    What will be the consequences for America?

  46. Maj. Kong says:

    Most violence in dar-al-islam, is caused by those in the umma. The Western militaries are held under restrictive ROEs, they are not following the tactics of Genghis Khan, who actually did force Islam to submit to his empire.

    Islam aims to conquer the West, and either forcibly convert us or force payment of jiyza. The so-called moderate Muslims disagree only on the tactics to achieve this. Moderates desire immigration and persuasion, radicals want beheadings and bombings. The goal is still the same.

  47. Wally [AKA "BobbyBeGood"] says: • Website
    @Stan D Mute

    Curious how Lincoln’s ‘Proclamation Emancipation’ only freed slaves in Confederate states, but not in the other states where slavery existed.

    Curious how Lincoln supported the ‘Fugitve Slave Act’.

    Curious how Lincoln said publicly that blacks were inferior to whites.

    said Lincoln:
    “I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races . . . . I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people.”

    see much more:

    • Replies: @Andrew E. Mathis
  48. Biff says:

    Want to stop the Dylann Roof’s of the world? Stop Extremism. It’s what fuels the fire, and this article is fuel as well. Calling out your own race as victims has started large wars and massive mass murders.

    It’s obvious that white Americans can never be terrorists no matter what they do, but what they have in common with the Arabs who are labeled terrorists is extremism.

    This should be called out more often then it does, but the media has the word terrorism reserved for political reasons.

    • Replies: @WGG
  49. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Great Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:

    Extreme economic violence inflicted on The Historic Native Born White American Majority=THE H1 B and L1 B VISA ASIAN SCAB LABOR LEGAL IMMIGRANT PROGRAM.

  50. @rod1963

    The “perfumed buffoon” is more dangerous than McCain because he appears respectable.

  51. joe webb says:

    in case you are responding to my piece, it is not 13 %, it is 13 times more than white murders of Blacks. For every black murdered by a white, there are 13 whites murdered by blacks.

    Of course, this is only homicides in which the perp is discovered.

    Also, the terrorism of blacks on whites cannot be measured, except by dry statistics like whites moving out when blacks move in. Wait until Big Brother moves blacks into your apartment house or neighborhood per the new initiative to integrate housing.

    No Place to Run to….up against the wall…the fighting begins in earnest.
    what is 13 times in percentages? 1300 percent?

    Joe Webb

    • Replies: @Jaggers
  52. Bravo to the Unz Review for publishing this excellent article. Mr. Taylor’s essay is as reasonable, dispassionate and convincing as are his other writings and his video presentations. And as a Northern ethnic, I found his defense of the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia heartwarming.

  53. Jaggers says:
    @joe webb

    No, I’m replying to Mr. Taylor’s piece:

    “Fifty-six percent of the people who attacked whites were white, and only 13.7 percent were black”

    That to me is an interesting statistic, though I do not question for a second the terror and general unpleasantness caused by blacks and visited upon whites.

  54. @Stan D Mute

    “But my primary reason for commenting here is that Taylor overlooks something significant in his discussion of disaffected whites. North of the Mason-Dixon exists an enormous population of whites descended from those who fought for or supported the Union. We have no connection (other than perhaps our ancestors wearing clothing made from cotton picked by slaves) to slavery. In fact, we sacrificed hundreds of thousands of our men to free the slaves.”

    I agree with your larger point that there is no winning with blacks, but disagree with your view of the Civil War. Few whites owned slaves in the South, and those who didn’t mostly lived outside of the slave economy as small farmers, who were largely self-sufficient and bartered on the local level for goods and services. If anything, industrial workers in the North were the beneficiaries of slavery, in that the products they made were often made from raw materials harvested by slaves in the South. It’s also true that shipyards in the North made slave ships after the war and the slave trade had centers in the North. It’s pretty obvious that average Southerners weren’t fighting to preserve a system that they were competing against, and I doubt that many Northerners were fighting for political equality and freedom of movement for blacks.

  55. These shootings are happening for a number of reasons but overall it’s caused by a sense of feeling obsolete in society. There is a growing number of you men who lack economic opportunities, a sense of community, and have not romantic prospects either.

    Mark Ames’s Going Postal: Rage, Murder, and Rebellion: From Reagan’s Workplaces to Clinton’s Columbine and Beyond.

    Topics discussed include:

    How slaves in the antebellum South were conditioned to accept slavery and how it relates to corporate America.
    How Ronald Reagan restructured the economic system
    Why Reagaonomics provocked spree shootings
    Why the Right-wing is wrong when it misinterprets political correctness for egalitarianism and how America today is the most inegalitarian in its history
    Why whites are overrepresneted among spree shooters.
    How managerialism combines the worst aspects of capitalism and socialism
    The connection between standardized tests and school shootings
    How the value of the college degree collapsed.
    How bullying in schools is institutionalized and how prevention of retribution against bullying contributes to spree shootings
    How sexual frustration contributes to spree shootings but the manosphere is wrong about its the primary reason
    How feminism and mass immigration suppress wages and how Ames ignores those issues and complains about scapegoating of immigrants.
    How the Alternative Right has failed to adress the economic issue
    Andy Nowicki’s The Columbine Pilgrim
    Why suffering seldom ennobles people but instead makes them into monsters
    The aim of workplace shootings is to destroy the system that oppresses the shooter
    The aim of school shootings is to destroy a system of oppression, most often bullies

    Dylan Roof and Political Violence:

    Robert Lindsay on shooters motivations:

  56. J1234 says:

    I don’t believe Mr. Taylor is quite correct in saying this event has shaken our country more than any event since 9/11. The Sandy Hook shooting was generally seen as far more monstrous, mostly because of the young age (and number) of the victims, and the fact that they were in a (somewhat) secured school building. Another two shootings that at least rival the Charleston murders in their heinousness and notoriety, would be the Gabrielle Giffords shooting in AZ, and the Aurora, CO theater shooting, both of which which deserve some comparative analysis.

    The killer in the AZ case was a young white man who was almost certainly crazy, but – if you recall – he wasn’t portrayed as such at first. Why not? Partly because they’d found a copy of Hitler’s Mein Kampf in his small library (and Giffords is Jewish.) Also because immigration and Jan Brewer were very hot topics in AZ, as they still are today, and a local law enforcement moron very publicly implied that “vitriol” over the immigration debate was the likely cause.

    The thing is, they’d also found other books in his library (as I said, his library was small), but we didn’t hear about them until much later. It was only when it was revealed that the authorities had also found a book by Karl Marx and books about the occult, that the media at large finally latched onto the idea that Jared Loughner was crazy. And he was.

    In the CO case, veteran ace investigative reporter Brian Ross told everyone – just hours after the shooting – that there was a member of the local Tea Party chapter who went by the name James Holmes, which was the same name as the shooter. Of course, he also said, “we don’t know if he is the same person.” So then why did you mention it? As the National Review asked, “If there had been a member of the local ACLU named James Holmes, would you have reported that, too?”

    Well, Ross was proven wrong, so, once again, because of an insufficient right wing connection, there could be only one possible explanation- the shooter was crazy. I do have to say, however, that left leaning Jon Stewart really raked Ross over the coals for being so irresponsible.

    So now we have Dylann Roof, and there is a very obvious right wing connection. No doubt about it. So I’m guessing that it will be impossible to prove that he was – in any way, shape or form – crazy. Just a guess, but I think it’s a pretty good guess.

    Anyway, the Sandy Hook murder brought about an enormous discussion about firearm ownership, and the Charleston murders brought about a smaller discussion about the rebel flag. Politicians need a dramatic solution to a dramatic problem, and if that solution to violent human behavior can be the removal of an inanimate object, so much the better. But, as I said, it’s all drama.

  57. I lost faith in Jared Taylor way back in his Last Ditch days. My main quibble is that he’s way out of touch with the people he claims to want to represent. Kudos for his efforts, but I don’t see him as an answer.

    Taylor’s use of “disaffected” is also odd to me. I get what he means, but it’s not just a few whites who understand what is going on. Lots of whites understand the effect of affirmative action (which he failed to mention), interracial violence, media distortion and provocation, demographic replacement, etc., but they can’t do much unless they turn militant against a system that is dead-set on burying and replacing them. What’s wrong with the “educated, sophisticated, attractive professionals” that they don’t see what’s going on? Displaced, rather than disaffected, is the term that Taylor should have used.

    • Replies: @Ozymandias
    , @rod1963
  58. This just looks like Sandy Hook with more melanin.

    Jared Taylor and most of the commenters here buy this staged bullcrap.

    Okay, just maybe I’m wrong, but before I participate in the big conversation on race and gun control and whatever, I’d like to be sure that the event that triggered the discussion actually happened!

  59. @just sayin'

    How many Muslim military bases are there on USA sovereign soil?

    How many USA military based on Muslim “desert regions”?

  60. @Stan D Mute

    Supporting your point. I personally reviewed every census from 1860 to 2000, looking for how many immigrants arrived each decade. I applied an exponential growth factor to each decade’s number of immigrants and varied that factor until all numbers tallied to America’s current population. I simplified by assuming the same growth rate for each decade’s cohort irrespective of nation of origin.

    According to my calculations, fully one half of America’s current population could not (were their ancestors to have married only other former non-slave holding whites) share any of the responsibility whatsoever for the actions of the white population–north or south–that lived in the United States at the time of the Civil War.

    In other words, fully one half of all whites in America (with the above caveat) are completely blameless for slavery simply because they didn’t live here then. So for blacks, from Obama and Holder, ML King, Jackson, Cleaver, MalcolmX, Angela Davis et al. on down to the least enlightened ghetto youth, to lump all whites into one category and try to hold It accountable for the misfortune of slavery is a gross abuse of Justice.

    Those blacks who subscribe to this belief are all–without exception–contemptible and until they change their tune, I will have nothing but contempt for them. When they apologize to me for their rabid racism, then I will consider treating them the respect a fellow, decent human being deserves.

  61. WGG [AKA "World\'s Greatest Grandson"] says:

    Derrp. Apathy for all, strong opinions for none! Who determines what is too strong an opinion? Why, the government, of course. Now take your Soma.

    • Replies: @Biff
  62. Deduction says:

    Here’s a fun idea: object to hate crime laws due to their disparate impact. After all Black Americans are much more likely to commit hate crimes than other groups.

    I think it would set a new standard in congnitive dissonance.

  63. Interracial crime is important because the criminal usually has to go out of his way to select a victim that isn’t a family member, a rival gang member, neighborhood enemy or drinking buddy. In many cases, the criminal is stalking prey, and the victim is a completely unaware and innocent stranger, whose only offense is being of a different race. Viewed in this light, black on white rape and crime amount to low-level warfare, which the media, with its constant refrain of white guilt, encourages and excuses.

  64. @just sayin'

    “The amount of blood that will now be required to drive these aliens from our homelands will be staggering.”

    Our homelands? What land do you call home?

  65. Truth says:

    My friend, with all possible respect, I have gone back and forth with people in a fruitless exchange over, what seem to me simple and easily understandable subjects. I no longer debate elementary logic, If you would like to learn on the other hand, this possibility exists. I talented professor once said it best:

  66. rod1963 says:
    @Leftist conservative

    Sush, you’re exposing the driving force behind a lot of this.

    But the Amren types don’t want to hear about the role the upper classes and corporations play in the demographic and economic destruction of the U.S.

    • Replies: @leftist conservative
  67. Deduction says:
    @Jonathan Revusky

    I’ve never believed in any conspiracy theory stuff, but that second video is insane. Either they are stone-cold sociopaths or they are actors.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Revusky
  68. @OilcanFloyd

    “What’s wrong with the “educated, sophisticated, attractive professionals” that they don’t see what’s going on?”

    They’re still comfortable yet. By the time they’re not, it will be too late.

  69. Truth says:

    That many whites die violently at the hands of blacks EVERYDAY.

    Roughly, one.

    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith
  70. Biff says:

    Besides the fact that your comment, along with most others should be exhibit A in , you fail to understand the statistics presented are All American. White or Black, we have a lot of crime to go around for everyone. Americans pointing fingers at each other based on race is laughable in the rest of the world – all 96% of it. This is your bed you made now sleep in it.

    Now go ahead and be an extremist and shoot up a gathering spot. It’s your thing!

    • Replies: @Pro-civilization
    , @WGG
  71. rod1963 says:

    …but they can’t do much unless they turn militant against a system that is dead-set on burying and replacing them.

    Very true, this is what Taylor is afraid to say. He thinks things can be papered over. He doesn’t get that the system has declared war on whites . He doesn’t get we have no political representation anymore. As soon as we elect even half-way conservative pols, they are compromised by people like Boehner or McConnell and become a threat to us.

  72. Cuckservatives are the Jews leading fellow Jews into the ovens.

  73. @Biff

    you’re clearly an anti white racists. So essentially your comment is meaningless to anyone with a brain.

  74. @Truth

    That many whites die violently at the hands of blacks EVERYDAY.

    Roughly, one.

    Wrong. Why use “guess” data? Download the FBI crime statistics tables, many of which have breakdowns by race. There are 70 tables. Just use, enter a search for “FBI crime statistics tables”. Racial breakdowns are mostly in tables and sub-tables of 41, 43, 49, 55, 61 and 67.

    • Replies: @Truth
  75. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factory"] says:

    “Such changes are unlikely. The American media are afraid to ‘blame the victim’—even if the ‘victim’ is a murderer. They are squeamish about mentioning race even when describing criminal suspects.”


    I find Taylor’s mealymouthed criticism of the media’s censorship laughable because his site, American Renaissance, is no less censorious when it comes to certain issues about a certain group.

    American Renaissance has a policy of NO CRITICISM OF JEWS, JEWISH POWER, AND JEWISH INFLUENCE. Taylor is one of the biggest ass-kissers of Jewish Power even though most of the Jewish Establishment has been toasting his Anglo-American ass for so long.

    Taylor bitches about Muslims, but do Muslims control the Western media, banks, war machine, politicians, entertainment, academia, and etc. that have brought so much ruination upon whites?

    Taylor, like some toadies in the GOP, prays that Jews will one day see the light, convert to ‘white nationalism’, and side with whites against the non-whites.
    It just ain’t gonna happen. Jews will continue to see white gentiles as their main rivals to power. To keep white gentiles morally intimidated and browbeaten, Jews hysterically promote the cult of ‘white guilt’ that, however, doesn’t apply to Jews themselves.
    Jews are like racial chameleons. When it comes to ‘affirmative action’ and ‘disparate impact’, Jews morph into ‘whites’ because, if they were identified as a separate group, everyone would realize that Jews are the most ‘unfairly’ over-represented in elite institutions/industries of all ethnic/racial groups.
    Isn’t it funny that the Supreme Court, which is 40% Jewish(in a nation where only 2% is Jewish), should be lecturing to the rest of us about the problem of ‘disparate impact’? I wonder how the SC feels about the Federal Reserve being totally dominated by Jews. Or how Hollywood is monopolized by Jews and homos who make up a small percentage of US population. No call for disparate impact alarm bells?

    But when it comes to ‘white guilt’, Jews suddenly morph into the biggest ‘victims’ of whites by invoking the Holocaust even though the Holocaust guilt only belongs to Germans of the WWII generation. (For some reason, Jews feel no guilt about their role in communism and the millions it killed.)

    If Taylor had real guts, he’d admit that the media behave as they do because they’re controlled by Jews and their shabbos goy elites.

    Instead, if anyone makes a comment about Jewish power on American Renaissance, the comment is deleted in no time.
    How can white folks fight the good fight when they are not even allowed to identify the very people with the greatest wealth, privilege, and power who are hellbent on doing whites the most harm?

    Worse, the problem isn’t only that Jewish media suppress the extent of black-on-white crime but that they wildly promote black-on-white interracist jungle fever. So, we have a national-racial situation where, even as blacks continue to beat up, rob, rape, and murder whites, increasing numbers of white women choose to surrender their wombs for the creation of mulattoes while deracinated and castrated white boys bow down in worship before black rappers and athletes.

  76. @conatus

    the article is Good News Bad News.

    The good news is there are still some “prestigious” journals that have the good sense to reject this rant.

    The bad news is Unz’s absolute free speech policy opened the site to its publication.

    “Independence of thought” are not the words that sprang to mind on listening to Taylor and reviewing his hate-site.
    “Passive-aggressive,” maybe; “delusions of grandeur” revealed in the rambling explication of how he use phony names to get into “prestigious journals” because he has such an important message.

    A shrink could have a field day with the CCC website and even more with this article’s attempt to deflect culpability from what is conceded to be a “lurid chronicle;” “unbalanced;” it apparently specializes in photos of “attractive young white women” harmed by black men.

    ts main mission seems to be to find and memorialize every white victim of interracial violence. It never mentions white perpetrators. In that sense, it is pure propaganda, and most people would call it hateful propaganda.

    “Seems to be?” Taylor runs CCC; doesn’t he know what the mission is?

    At #12 and #17 Wesley Clarke (#1) is tagged for the “perfumed buffoon” and warmonger that he is, an activity that he seems to want to carry out again, right here in River City.

    Jared Taylor is “perfumed” Dyllan Roof with a haircut and a suit.

    • Replies: @anon
  77. abj_slant says:

    This article could have been written by Mark Twain, and there is still no way in hell a “prestigious national magazine” would have published it.

  78. Vinegar says:

    Jared’s preface, regarding his wish to appear in a “respected magazine”, reminded me of this:

    “You cannot imagine to what extent the wisest of the GOYIM can be brought to a state of unconscious naivete in the presence of this condition of high conceit of themselves, and at the same time how easy it is to take the heart out of them by the slightest ill-success, though it be nothing more than the stoppage of the applause they had, and to reduce them to a slavish submission for the sake of winning a renewal of success …. BY SO MUCH AS OURS DISREGARD SUCCESS IF ONLY THEY CAN CARRY THROUGH THEIR PLANS, BY SO MUCH THE “GOYIM” ARE WILLING TO SACRIFICE ANY PLANS ONLY TO HAVE SUCCESS. This psychology of theirs materially facilitates for us the task of setting them in the required direction. These tigers in appearance have the souls of sheep and the wind blows freely through their heads. ”

    Nevertheless, I do not wish to denigrate him. He has done a lot more than I have to defend White interests… But I’m just a lowly blue-collar worker (albeit with a keen eye for the big picture).

    • Replies: @Vinegar
  79. Flower says:

    Let me try it this way.

    If you are an American, you are a member of the most violent country, on the most violent planet in the known Universe.

    But you know what the punch line is? If you are an American, you think it’s normal.

    And you’re going to stop another Dylan Roof?

    Do you know who is most likely to shoot you in a mass murder? A close relative.

    • Replies: @J1234
    , @Threecranes
  80. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Great Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:

    I blame the low wage-wage slave labor policy of the Greedy Cheating Mega-CEO White Males for the shooting at the Black Baptist Church…for it is their nonwhite legal immigrant scab labor policy that creates the economically redundant Dylan Roofs of America….and they are also the force behind the very rapid homo-filth norming of American society….BEHIND EVERY GREAT FORTUNE IS A VERY VERY GREAT FILTHY CRIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OF MONUMENTAL VAULTING GREED AND SEXUAL PERVERSION!!!!!!!

    • Replies: @Truth
  81. Maj. Kong says:
    @Priss Factor

    You do realize what ethnic group the proprietor here belongs to, right?

    • Replies: @Vinegar
    , @Priss Factor
  82. jsm says:
    @jack shindo

    Open request to Unz readers: Can YOU guys make any sense out of this word salad? Is there even a thought in there?

  83. JSM says:
    @Stan D Mute

    This is a very good point. Northerners never get to hear any thanks from Blacks for all that sacrifice done to help them.

    Southerners tried to warn us Northerners, emancipate them and you’ll regret it.

    The Southerners were right, and they sacrificed mightily. As a descendant of a guy who fought for the Union, please let me say to the South: You were right. I would like to offer my gratitude for your having tried to warn us.

  84. Vinegar says:

    Before anyone fires off an angry retort, let me clarify some:

    I wasn’t implying that Jared wrote this piece for personal aggrandizement. I realize it was submitted pseduonymously at first.

    On the contrary, few have sacrificed themselves for the cause as Jared has. He clearly could’ve become much more rich and famous by merely keeping his lifelong concerns on this matter to himself.

    I posted that excerpt more for the reader to ponder, and perhaps Jared too. And as a not-so-subtle hint about the (most likely) forces at work behind White dispossession. That is, aside from our own failures (selfish hedonism over having children; gullibility in the face of obvious lies; lack of testicular fortitude while under attack from those multitudes who have declared war on us).

  85. J1234 says:

    Let me try it this way.

    If you are an American, you are a member of the most violent country, on the most violent planet in the known Universe.

    But you know what the punch line is? If you are an American, you think it’s normal.

    And you’re going to stop another Dylan Roof?

    Do you know who is most likely to shoot you in a mass murder? A close relative.

    Quick geography lesson: There are not three countries on the North American continent. There are ten. (No, Central America is not a continent.) There are more than ten if you count the Caribbean island states.

    The US is the second safest country on this continent.

    Now, a quick geography quiz: What’s the biggest beef producer in Europe?

    Answer: ARGENTINA!

    What’s that, you say? Argentina isn’t in Europe? Well, neither is the US, so why do people on the left keep comparing the US with Europe when it comes to crime/gun statistics, then always compare the US with the third world when it comes to wealth or GDP or pollution stats?

    The answer is because (as the old saying goes) there are three types of lies:
    1) Lies
    2) Damn lies
    3) and statistics

    “Statistics” of course meaning data that is cherry picked and choreographed and customized to validate a narrative. Does this mean that the crime levels are acceptable in the US? Of course not, but start with a more truthful assessment before addressing the problem.

  86. Vinegar says:
    @Maj. Kong

    Isn’t that always the case? They have a lock on forums of this nature.

    Doesn’t change the reality. In fact, it proves his point.

    Nobody knows who’s at the top of the pyramid of power. But anyone with genuine intectually curiosity and some time on their hands knows that a few thousand Jew/Khazar/Zionist-something-or-others are at or near it. Then they have a pool of a few million talented-but-clueless (not privy to the big picture; brainwashed that rabid anti-semites are out to get them for no reason) Jews who they can count on to quietly get things done for them when they need it. Sayanims might be the word. Doubtless this website is run by one.

  87. anon • Disclaimer says:

    it apparently specializes in photos of “attractive young white women” harmed by black men.

    A bit like the NYT always using pictures of gangsta yout when they were cherubic twelve years olds.

    ts main mission seems to be to find and memorialize every white victim of interracial violence. It never mentions white perpetrators. In that sense, it is pure propaganda, and most people would call it hateful propaganda.

    So switching the word “white” to “black” and applying that logic to the mainstream media you’d agree that the mainstream media promotes anti-white hate propaganda 24/7?

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  88. @rod1963

    Sush, you’re exposing the driving force behind a lot of this.

    But the Amren types don’t want to hear about the role the upper classes and corporations play in the demographic and economic destruction of the U.S.

    You are basically correct. The readers on this site for the most part cannot hear what I am saying. It just bounces off their heads. Or, my words trigger psychological defenses that are activated by certain word patterns.


    Well, you have to go back in history and see what forces gave rise to the current conservative subculture. And there are some fundamental assumptions that you have to accept.

    First, once humans buy into and accept a certain worldview, it is very hard to change their minds. Also, that worldview that they hold is based on a certain set of facts and assumptions. Once an american ingests and internalizes a certain set of facts and tenets, it is hard for them to even understand a worldview that depends upon another entirely different set of facts and tenets.

    For the most part, there are 3 political subcultures in america–conservative, liberal and libertarian.

    Membership into each one of these subcultures requires ingestion and internalization and acceptance of a certain set of facts, dogma, tenets.

    When a member of one of these three tribes comes across some political oriented writing, the member uses word association to determine to which political subculture the author belongs. In that sense, these political subculture members are like automatons, like insects or like antibodies. An ant comes across another ant, and it uses pheromonal cues to determines whether it is friend or foe. Likewise, an antibody will search for intruders using a program to look for invaders of a certain shape.

    Writing such as mine does not fall into any of the accepted political subcultures, so they cannot understand it. My writings depend on facts and tenets that are foreign to them. Does not compute, etc.

    Also, my use of the words Labor and Capital triggers their “socialist” pattern recognition circuits.

    Basically, the american conservative subculture was created by a long propaganda campaign by Capital/the overclass starting about 100 years ago. This propaganda campaign was part of the strategy to protect american wealth from the socialism mind virus sweeping over europe.

    As part of the conservative subculture, the words labor and capital are trigger words that cause defenses to automatically engage.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  89. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factory"] says:
    @Maj. Kong

    When I say ‘Jews’, I don’t mean all Jews.

    I mean Bad Jewish Power.

    It’s like when we say ‘Germans invaded Poland’, we don’t mean all Germans. After all, there were decent Germans who resisted Nazism. We mean Bad German Power held by Nazis.

    There are decent Jews and bad Jews. Unfortunately, the bad Jews got the power in the US.

    It’s like bad Germans had the power during the Nazi era.

  90. WGG [AKA "World\'s Greatest Grandson"] says:

    Hmm. According to you, I deserve collective guilt because I’m American. Others say I deserve it because I am white. But never collective guilt for the American negro (or any other variety for that matter.)

    It’s cool, though. Are you white but not American? That makes me giggle. Here I have been fretting over the fate of beautiful Europe at the hands of the EU masters and their 3rd world invading foot-soldiers. Meanwhile, it’s full of abominations like yourself. Don’t worry, comrade. The violence is coming your way. Wherever you have Africans, there is Africa.

    There is the possibility that you are something other than white. Which is doubly funny because the violence will still touch you, but your false bravado of anti-colonialism and deep-seated sense of being a “Noble Savage” won’t get you any special privileges. Just like the blacks in S.A. and Zimbabwe now, you will think, “I should have stuck with whitey.” Oh well.

  91. @Flower

    Flower. The site you direct us to compares the USA only to other OECD first world countries. You need to broaden the base of your data set. Google violent crime rate in the WORLD and you will see that African and Latin American countries far out pace–by orders of magnitude–the US in violence. Also, as Jared’s essay tried to hammer into your thick head, much of the violent crime in the USA is due to the very people you ignore i.e. those from Africa and Latin America.

    And finally, according to Steven Pinker (The Blank Slate) and other honest anthropologists, the homicide rate in stone age societies in e.g. New Guinea accounts for roughly 50% of all deaths for males. In the 20th century, in spite of all the deaths due to wars, famine etc, only 3 – 4% of all Europeans died of homicide.

    Get your facts straight before you post here. This is not a liberal drumming circle and you have to defend what you say with publicly available data, not “hope and change” type wishful “thinking”.

    • Replies: @Flower
  92. @leftist conservative

    don’t flatter yourself.

    use of those terms just sounded affected to my ears. like an attempt impress with some esoteric knowledge, or dredge up ideas that went out with the buggy whip.

    Over twenty years ago we had dinner with a friend from graduate school, now a professor of Organization and Management in Germany, his home country.

    He said no none he knew had ever read Marx. Nobody cared.

    Instead of trying to make people salivate by ringing little bells that only you can hear,why not just explain your ideas in lucid prose?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  93. Vinegar says:

    The only logical explanation for what we’ve seen over the last few decades:

    – with millions of hostile and self-serving foreigners being imported

    – with agitprop directed against Whites

    … is that they want to create a race war.

    For purposes of eugenics, to eliminate opposition, and to provoke the social cataclysm that they desire.

    A la…

    THIS HATRED WILL BE STILL FURTHER MAGNIFIED BY THE EFFECTS of an ECONOMIC CRISES, which will stop dealing on the exchanges and bring industry to a standstill. We shall create by all the secret subterranean methods open to us and with the aid of gold, which is all in our hands, A UNIVERSAL ECONOMIC CRISES WHEREBY WE SHALL THROW UPON THE STREETS WHOLE MOBS OF WORKERS SIMULTANEOUSLY IN ALL THE COUNTRIES OF EUROPE. These mobs will rush delightedly to shed the blood of those whom, in the simplicity of their ignorance, they have envied from their cradles, and whose property they will then be able to loot.

    For the record, I want no part of any bloodshed.

  94. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Great Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:

    I think what he is trying to say is this:The Capitalist Pig Mega-CEO Class is using nonwhite legal immigrant scab labor to beat the f……g brains out of the Native Born White American Working Class. And in the future, the Capitalist Pig Mega CEO Class is gonna be strung-up with barbed-wire from street lights. If he is saying this…he is right.

  95. @Priss Factor

    I disagree with your argument, PF, or more specifically, with the inapt comparison.

    You wrote:

    When I say ‘Jews’, I don’t mean all Jews.
    I mean Bad Jewish Power.

    It’s like when we say ‘Germans invaded Poland’, we don’t mean all Germans. After all, there were decent Germans who resisted Nazism. We mean Bad German Power held by Nazis.
    There are decent Jews and bad Jews. Unfortunately, the bad Jews got the power in the US.
    It’s like bad Germans had the power during the Nazi era.

    In your original post you argued:

    Taylor bitches about Muslims, but do Muslims control the Western media, banks, war machine, politicians, entertainment, academia, and etc. that have brought so much ruination upon whites?

    THAT is the complaint Americans have toward “Jews,” “the Jews” “some Jews” “Jewish elites.” Whatever.

    Weimar and NSDAP Germany had the very same complaint:

    Jews controlled the Western media, banks, war machine, politicians, entertainment, academia, and etc. that have brought so much ruination upon whites Germans, (who are, incidentally, white)

    As for parsing “the Jews,” Germans in Weimar and NSDAP did that too: as Hans Luther explained in May 1933,

    “Dr. Luther asserted that these [antisemitic] policies were political and not religious.
    Prejudice against the Jews, he said, was due to their tendency toward movements of a communistic nature, and to the fact that nearly fifty percent of the government officails have been Jews, although the total Jewish population was only one percent. He denied emphatically that there had been any “atrocities”.

    He asserted that limitation of Jewish influence in Germany was being conducted with the greatest possible consideration toward the old native Jewish families who, he said; had proven themselves good Germans and indicated that it was directed against the Eastern European Jews who had overflooded the country since the War.

    In other words, NSDAP’s “antisemitic” policies were not directed at Jews qua Jews but at illegal immigrants!

    Just like in USA where policies target illegal immigrants!

    Many of the “illegal immigrants” were Jewish, and many of the illegal immigrants were Communists, and many of the illegal immigrants were Jewish Communists deliberately attempting to subvert the German government.

    Wesley Clarke said that if such miscreants exist in the USA they should be put into internment camps, no questions asked.

    In Germany, NO JEW was interned in a concentration camp until after Jews had assassinated two German diplomats — one in Switzerland (iirc; search engines hide the information) and the second, Ernst vom Rath, in Paris in November 1938. After vom Rath died, zionists agents — part of Mossad el-Aliyeh bet — provoked the false-flag riots known as Kristallnacht. Immediately afterward, for the first time, Jews were rounded up and interned in concentration camps. (The great majority of these Jews were released within about 3 weeks. About 1,000 Jews remained interned, suspected of Communist agitation.)

    You wrote that “Germans invaded Poland … they were the bad Germans.”

    No, they were the Germans — the German-state led German army.

    If the full context of Germany invading Poland is studied, facts are revealed to show that Jews — bad, good, or indifferent, who would say; fact is Jewish persons were among those who worked to provoke antagonism between Germany and Poland, and Jews were among those who influenced FDR and Churchill to throw sand in the gears of a non-violent settlement of the Danzig question, the casus belli.

    Hitler attempted to resolve the matter up until the very last minute — see Maj. Gen. Gerd Schultze-Rhonhof, “1939: The War That had Many Fathers.” German nationals were being beaten, disposed and killed in Poland, where their minority rights were supposed to have been protected by terms of Versailles treaty. It was the obligation of the German government to protect its nationals.

    The Jewish-declared and prosecuted economic war on Germany stirred up animosity among the Polish people. see Edwin Black in “The Transfer Agreement.”

    Churchill deliberately undercut any incentive Poles had to agree to the very generous terms the NSDAP offered. Pat Buchanan has argued this point in “Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War.”

    Who was “bad” and who was “good”?

    Here’s another clue: Norman Finkelstein, Herbert Hoover, and Adolf Hitler himself agree on this point: Hitler did not want war.

    “Jews,” or “the Jews” or “some Jews” were, as you noted, “controlled banks and war machines” and did want war.

    So, again, who was “bad” and who was “good”?

  96. Stealth says:
    @jack shindo

    Personally, I don’t care about the Rebel Flag being flown on government property. They can take it down for all I care, even though I think it’s stupid to do it just because of Dylan Roof’s massacre.

    Taylor is correct. There has to be an alternative to forcing white people to eat shit until the last one of us is dead.

    Nonwhites and liberals can bring up the Klan all they want, but they must not be so menacing if nonwhite immigration to the United States is any indication.

    Radicalization and racialization share the same roots of distrust, discord, ignorance and stupidity, etc and it is tolerated in the name of freedom and Fist Amendment rights and that will be the problem.

    I’m guessing you think we should just throw out the concept of freedom of speech altogether to protect minority feelings. If you ever want to know why white people want to live in a majority white country, take a look at what you just said. The less white this country gets, the less freedom white people have and the more our quality of life declines.

    • Replies: @Disordered
  97. Stealth says:
    @Gene Su

    I don’t want to understand someone who killed nine people and injured others, personally.

    It would mean that white criminals have legitimate gripes but not blacks.

    Why lecture Jared Taylor (who’s small potatoes) for hypocrisy when you could criticize the mainstream media, which is not? Omar Thornton killed eight white people, and journalists immediately jumped to his defense and tried to rationalize the killings as a reaction to white racism.

    • Replies: @Gene Su
  98. @Qasim

    I certainly agree that we are provoking Muslims with our endless aggressive wars.

    However, that is no excuse to let them into our country.

  99. I certainly agree that we are provoking Muslims with our endless aggressive wars.

    “Provoking Muslims.” Ha ha– good one!

    Of course, they would never think of doing the same to us.

  100. Of course you can’t get “published”.
    You’re factually documented and NOT politically correct !

  101. Tom Saw says: • Website

    There is a popular myth that whites are more likely to go on mass shootings than other races. That, in fact, is not true and we need to end this myth:


    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  102. @Wally

    Lincoln believed in enforcing the law of the land, regardless of whether he thought the law was wrong or right, and he believed in changing bad laws through legal means. The Emancipation Proclamation only freed slaves in areas under rebellion because its primary purpose was to weaken the Confederacy and not to end slavery. That’s why he then fought successfully to have the 13th Amendment passed.

    Regarding his alleged white supremacist views, see:;view=fulltext

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    , @Disordered
  103. Truth says:
    @War for Blair Mountain


  104. @Tom Saw

    Who is responsible for the killing of more innocent people, Black, white and in-between: the white man in comment #1 or all the Black gang members in Chicago?

    Muslim Lives Matter.
    Particularly when they are in their own countries and white, black, purple, green, camouflage, etc. men with huge arsenals cross their borders illegally and kill the natives in their own lands and homes.

    Any statistics on whether the Anglos (British & American) have killed more White, Brown and Black people (starving to death is still killing) than all Blacks have killed white people and Black people?

  105. Vinegar says:

    As to the provocation of Muslims by those who claim to represent us, I am reminded of this:

    …The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the “agentur” of the “Illuminati” between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam and political Zionism mutually destroy each other.

    Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion… We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil.

    Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view.

    This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.

    The above is usually attributed to Albert Pike, who died in 1891. However, a little digging suggests that it is more recent, yet probably written no later than 50 years ago.

    Just goes to show… everything is scripted long in advance; and it all points to an imminent, well-planned global collapse followed by violent turmoil – which will then be seized upon to remake human civilization into… something else.

    And so this is why the passions of Whites, Blacks, Mexicans, Muslims and others are being inflamed. For maximum carnage.

    Best thing people like us can do is get out of the way, and just hope to survive.

    In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way. -Franklin D. Roosevelt

    /Over and Out

  106. @Ewan MacErc

    “Whites lack a single clear voice or advocate in the media.”

    And the Media will ensure that this continues to be the case.

  107. @Andrew E. Mathis

    Another big government piece of crap apologist for the the corrupt murderous Lincoln who’s war killed more Americans than either WWI or WWII.

    • Replies: @Andrew E. Mathis
  108. @Priss Factor

    Most of what you say is accurate. Now you have only to figure out how to tone down your rhetoric a bit in order to persuade rather than to harangue. And as Maj. Kong intimates, it might also be worthwhile to acknowledge that every ‘group’ contains some good and some bad. Diplomatic language may not be to your personal taste but you still have to decide if you really want to have any effect, or just prefer the more transitory satisfaction of spouting off on the internet.

    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna
  109. @Truth

    Three. Rather a lot, really.

    • Replies: @Truth
  110. Truth says:

    “To imagine that Zimmerman pursued Martin, caught him and began beating him only to lose whatever…”

    No, actually, someone starting a confrontation and getting his ass kicked is not unusual. Not saying that it happened here, I’m saying that…


  111. Truth says:
    @Kyle McKenna

    Show your work or I cannot give you credit.

    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna
  112. @SolontoCroesus

    Interesting stuff. You need a blog or site of your own to organize this information. Or, please direct me to one where I may learn more.

  113. @Priss Factor

    Thanks for this. It does go a good way toward addressing one of the criticisms I’d lodged against you just above.

  114. @Kyle McKenna

    See my correction below (or above as the case may be).

  115. @Truth

    Truth, you and I pretty much agree on this. I don’t think Roof is entitled to ANY excuse or rationalization. I want him tried, convicted, and executed. I think Roof was hoping for the “fame” he’s gotten for the killings. The media is doing what these nutcases want when they splash their photo and life history all over the news.

    Yes, the rationalization for atrocities like the Christian-Newsom torture-murders of “blacks have been persecuted” has been trotted out for several decades. Seven-eight years ago, Dreamworks was considering a movie on the Zebra killings. It would be a totally fictional story of the case being solved by black detectives who had experienced the “same racism” as the killers who were butchering mostly working class white people, often elderly and female.

    Nothing has happened with this movie proposal. The fact-checking given to the book it was based on may have caused it to be shelved. And maybe the studio decided it would be hard to make the killers “victims.”

  116. Rifleman says:
    @Priss Factor

    Taylor is one of the biggest ass-kissers of Jewish Power even though most of the Jewish Establishment has been toasting his Anglo-American ass for so long.

    I think his wife is Jewish.

    Jared Taylor is a neo-Confederate White supremacist. As Sailer has noted the old Confederacy had Jews in it’s power structure and Jewish attitudes influenced the creation of the Confederate battle flag..

    …and castrated white boys bow down in worship before black rappers and athletes.

    If so they are self-castrated. If the non Jewish majority is this stupid and weak they deserve to lose the competition. You are essentially blaming Jews for being too good at the game and “whites” for being too weak and stupid.

    And what’s with your names – Andrea Ostrov Letania, The Priss Factory, The Priss Factor, Priss Factory?

    Why do you pick girly/sissy names and then complain about White men being weak and black males being strong?

    What’s the point of that?

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  117. @Truth

    Happy to oblige!

    • Replies: @Truth
  118. @Jared Taylor

    Mr. Taylor:

    Do you not realize that all the high profile terrorism attributed to Muslims is false flag terrorism? 9/11, 7/7, Charlie Hebdo…

    What I don’t understand about you is that you are completely shut out by the mainstream media anyway. People on the inside have to pretend that all this false flag terrorism is not that. But you are completely shut out anyway. So why do you continue to respect these taboos?

    Well, if the answer is that you really are deceived by all these false flags and staged psy ops, it’s not too late to get educated. The main barrier would lie in facing the cognitive dissonance this entails — i.e. having to admit you were wrong. This is very hard for people to overcome, but some people manage to do it.

  119. @Deduction

    Dude, the term “conspiracy theory” is just Neurolinguistic programming to block you from getting educated about key issues.

    The people in the video are crisis actors. Really bad actors at that. Of course there are some very fine black actors. But they could hardly hire Denzel Washington for this.

    I submit that anybody who watches that video and believes these people just had their mother murdered — they must have had their built-in BS detector extirpated somehow.

  120. @Jared Taylor


    I bought your first book, Shadow of the Rising Sun and it was very informative regarding the Asian island nation with a first world economy, society and structure.

    I appreciate the work that American Renaissance continues to do regarding reporting various facts in 21st century America that unfortunately many in the mainstream media are either too timid or too incentivized to report on.

    Like your good friend John Derbyshire, I believe that the facts as well as the data speak for themselves. A major reason, I believe, that racial tensions have increased over the last several decades is that, far from Eric Holder’s statement that we don’t want to have a conversation on race, is that the conversation has been carried on by only one side and that the message being given is not a conversation at all. It is more in the mold of a diatribe or a dissertation of which all US citizens are forced to listen to but are never allowed to participate in. In a conversation, multiple sides are usually free to speak their minds without fear of retaliation for giving unpopular opinions and unfortunately this isn’t what occurs in former Attn. Gen. Holder’s conversation on racial relations.

    May you and others continue to give clear and concise information on race, differences in IQ, and other topics that other writers shy away from out of ignorance or fear of the repercussions for where their reporting takes them.

    Thank you.

  121. @Curle

    Yep – excellent reply. I do not engage with such as “Truth” – who is, in all likelihood, a white SJW, not a black person – because it is as futile as, in Abraham Lincoln’s memorable phrase, shoveling fleas across a barnyard. The person is simply here to disrupt and derail discussion, not contribute to it.

    But I will say this about the Zimmerman persecution: every speck of available physical evidence we have confirms Zimmerman’s account. Every. Speck. Add to this that even if the account that Trayvon Martin was “provoked” by “being followed” the question becomes: so what? There is a perfect right to follow someone in one’s own neighborhood; “being followed” does not give one a right assault a person. What the person being followed has the right to do is (1) either proceed about their business or (2) turn around and ask the person doing the following if there is something they can help them with. There is no right to begin wailing away on them for the supposed offense of “being followed.”

    But, in point of fact, the available evidence shows that Zimmerman was NOT “following” Martin, and was simply standing by his car waiting for the cops to show up. That same evidence strongly points to the reasonable supposition that Martin was likely casing houses to break into – his squirrely behavior is what drew Zimmerman’s attention in the first place. The evidence further shows beyond any shadow of a doubt that Martin was on top of Zimmerman, wailing away at him in a life-threatening manner, AND that Zimmerman used the minimum amount of force available to him to terminate that illegal assault: he fired ONE shot.

    A Florida state jury has so rendered; as has the Department of Justice in an exhaustive two year investigation. Any person stating that “we don’t know” whether Zimmerman was justified or not is simply not to be taken seriously.

    Again, good comment.

    • Replies: @Truth
  122. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factory"] says:

    “And what’s with your names – Andrea Ostrov Letania, The Priss Factory, The Priss Factor, Priss Factory?”

    Andrea? Who’s that?

    • Replies: @Rifleman
  123. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factory"] says:

    Hey, I have Jewish friends.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  124. abj_slant says:

    You are essentially blaming Jews for being too good at the game and “whites” for being too weak and stupid.

    Well said!

    • Replies: @WGG
  125. Truth says:
    @Kyle McKenna

    humor quotient = Adam Sandler.

  126. Rifleman says:
    @Priss Factor

    “And what’s with your names – Andrea Ostrov Letania, The Priss Factory, The Priss Factor, Priss Factory?”

    Andrea? Who’s that?

    Your previous name on here and your blogger name.

    You are a creative guy, a kind of Evil Genius in a way. Interesting but bizarre comments.

    I just don’t get the combo of sissy names and then calling out other White men as weak and timid and claiming black males are all strong and virile and have a free run of the White women.

    I don’t find that to be true but why do you choose overtly sissified names if you also are a critic of supposed White male timidity and effeminacy?

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  127. Gene Su says:

    Ahhh… but blacks don’t know what the main stream media is hiding… And therein lies the problem.

  128. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Great Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:

    Dear Unz Review Commenters

    Inspired by a large cup of organic Columbian coffee this morning, I thought that I would leave you all with the following reminder:GO AFTER THE WHITE LIBERAL GREEDY CHEATING CLASS UNRELENTINGLY….for they are the force behind 1)the low wage-wage slave labor markets for an increasing number of working class Native Born White American Males….2) and the concurrent homo-filth norming of American Society.

    There is no more vile scum in the whole of the Universe than the White Liberal Greedy Cheating Class. This is the context in which Dylan Roof must be understood in terms of.

    Another reminder:the highly racialized nonwhite majority Democratic Party has murdred over two thousand Conservative Orthodox Christian Russian Speaking Ukranians in the Ukraine in the past year…including a young pregnant Conservative Orthodox Christian Russian Ukranian Woman who was strung -up around the neck from a street light. Dylan Roof is small potatoes compared to the Democratic Administration in DC.

  129. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factory"] says:

    I don’t know nobody named Andrea.

    Get back to your tribe.

  130. @Priss Factor

    Hey, I have Jewish friends


    Are you as unwilling as they are to engage with evidence that discomfits and overturns the dogmatized narrative?


    You are essentially blaming . . . “whites” for being too weak and stupid.

  131. WGG [AKA "World\'s Greatest Grandson"] says:

    And what “game” is that? The genocide game? Because we whites supposedly hold the title of World Champion in that game. So, basically you are defending German National Socialists, right? It’s not their fault; they were just good at the game! No more whinging about the Holocaust- sore losers!

    It’s bold of you to defend Hitler in such a way. Refreshing to see such courage in this day and age.

  132. joe webb says:
    @Priss Factor

    priorities. There are several strategies, or at least two in this case. Taylor sees blacks as the #1 enemy, with which there is the possibility of traction with the public. Maybe the mexers as well.

    To paraphrase Jesus, the jews you will always have with you, at least for the time being. My own priorities are: mexicans first, blacks second, and jews third.

    Politically, if blacks and mexicans are dealt with, the jewish power will wither away, per Marx.

    Staying rational is very important, even when figuring out the best emotional appeal. Right now, after a half-century of race- leveling propaganda, Just The Facts M’am is probably the best strategy for White nationalists and Whites who resist the nationalist part but hate Blackness.

    The other side of the coin, the emotional side, will manage very well by itself as Black Mischief continues unabated and Whites look on in distress and fear.

    Joe Webb

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  133. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factory"] says:

    We generally blame the media but the lunacy often begins in the academia.

    I wonder… are these radicals or cowards? To be sure, radicalism is often arrived at through cowardice.

  134. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    White (and christian?) psychopaths such as yourself and joe webb should take solace that you at least have Satan on your side.

  135. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factory"] says:
    @joe webb

    Mexers are okay. The problem is broken borders and TOO MANY of them.
    Otherwise, they are good people. Both Billy the Kid and Pat Garrett got along fine with them folks.

    Blacks are the main threat, esp as Africa is overflowing with them(and many more are coming) and because they seduce white boys with sports and seduce white girls with music.

    But blacks have no direct control over the elite institutions. Jews have that.

    That’s why dealing with Jewish power is more crucial.

    Granted, an America with Jews but no blacks would be nice, whereas an America with blacks but no Jews would still have lots of problems.
    But the thing is Jews are the main enablers of the blacks through control of media, academia, government, courts, and etc.

    It was Jewish power that put Obama in office that also led to Sotomayor and Kagan and ‘gay marriage’.

    • Replies: @joe webb
    , @joe webb
  136. @Bill Jones

    Wow, that’s really quite hostile for someone who doesn’t know me.

  137. Flower says:

    So, you are comparing the United States to New Guinea? It looks like what you are doing is searching hard for something to support your bigotry. So, you actually looked at the graphs, I’m proud of you. The point was, a hole, imagine taking the graph for the US and cutting it IN HALF. Then placing that remainder on top of any of the other graphs, and imagine what that country would be saying if their crime rate were just half of ours. It would probably go something like this, “Holy fuck! Something is wrong here! We need to stop and figure this out. NOW!” But, to minor mentalities, such as yours, it’s just another day in Zipperheadville.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Ozymandias
  138. Seraphim says:

    Sure these killings have nothing to do with the constant diet of violence, senseless killings offered as news or entertainment on the big screen, TV, computer games?

  139. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    All of this presupposes that evil is not in the heart of men, but is elicited, ultimately from outside factors. That this killer was somehow the result or victim of his environment. Nonsense. Evil is evil. Certainly there may be real factors that are contributing, and in themselves are evil, i.e., the use of drugs. In the end, a man must take the like of another. Or many.

    Examine the heart of this nation. It glorifies military aggressive constantly. It takes the life of an unborn child without hesitation and sells the bits and pieces. It steals from one citizen to “redistribute” to another. It revels in the power of state violence against the individual.

    It’s no surprise that it also is occupied with a disturbing young men that do evil things against their neighbors.

    • Replies: @joe webb
  140. joe webb says:
    @Priss Factor

    yes but dept. yes but there is no traction for stopping the jewish power. There is growing traction on blacks and browns. Joe Webb

  141. joe webb says:

    Evil is a melodramatic word deployed to rally allies and demand killing of the Evil Ones, per a Bush I think.

    In this sense, it is a liberal and/or communist word. Wesley Clark, the half jew, or jew-and-one-half wants to kill racists and anybody else he deems a threat to the Western liberal consensus.

    As a HBD guy and White nationalist, I see people Naturally pursuing group/racial/ethnic and sub-group goals, whether economic or otherwise. Still, the fundamental Natural biological goal is racial/ethnic/family preservation.

    Calling Roof evil is merely registering your hatred of him, and your bid for a merit badge from Clark, etc. Roof, probably somewhat demented, is not even a psychopath. The true psychopath cares about nobody, has zero empathy for others, and is a biological mistake, to be killed or imprisoned. I favor killing them, from a biological perspective.

    The rest of your verbiage is a sermon on Truth and Justice, like lefties like to trumpet.
    Your oracular declaration about The Heart of this Nation reminds me of my mother. Take my mother the commie, please…..

    I cannot therefore call your hysteria evil, it is just hysteria, like most women’s writing, and liberals.
    Liberals are not evil, not even commies…just demented and most saliently, driven by a mad-dog hyper altruism in the service of their egos…I am The One, the Pure One, I know and you do not.
    Joe Webb

  142. joe webb says:
    @Priss Factor

    I agree with you that mexers are mostly ok. And I have friendly relations with a couple in stores, etc. However, they take white jobs, their IQ is 90 average, half of them are on welfare even while working, and ultimately it will just be transfer of goodies from whites to mexers…already is.

    The spoils system of race-based politics is not a White Man’s politics. Whatever our warts, we have been far more interested in the commonweal, the general welfare, etc. than any other race. If you want a mexican governance, or generally third world governance, then let in the third worlders.

    And let in the chinks….as one liberal friend who hates to admit it but does admit the general truths of racialism , puts it: the chinks are “rapacious.” Where i live in Silicon Valley, everybody sees it.
    They won’t change….it is genetic. always has been and always will be.

    Only Whites believe in some kind of general Fairness. NO other race so believes. Look at the El Chaco (?) phenomenon…Mexers love the bandits. That is what low intelligence achieves, the inability to think up something like a Categorical Imperative…?.que dice? is that it?

    Mexico for the Mexicans, may they go in peace.

    Joe Webb and thanks to the gods for not putting the Congo on our border.

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  143. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @joe webb

    It would seem to be quite worthwhile recording a few more things in which this people differ from Europeans. To begin with, it seems to be quite remarkable when we stop to consider it, that in a kingdom of almost limitless expanse and innumerable population and abounding in copious supplies of every description, though they have a well-equipped army and navy that could easily conquer the neighboring nations, neither the King nor his people ever think of waging a war of aggression They are quite content with what they have and are not ambitious of conquest. In this respect they are much different from the people of Europe, who are frequently discontent with their own governments and covetous of what others enjoy. While the nations of the West seem to be entirely consumed with the idea of supreme domination, they cannot even preserve what their ancestors have bequeathed them, as the Chinese have done through a period of some thousand of years….

    – Matteo Ricci

  144. anon • Disclaimer says:

    We need to stop and figure this out. NOW!”

    We have figured it out. You don’t want to believe it.

  145. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factory"] says:
    @joe webb

    Yes, ideally there should be no immigration and whites should have more kids… and blacks would have their own separate nation.

    But we have to look at the reality.

    Whites will not have kids… though increasing number of white women are going mud with black men.

    And white guys have lost the warrior spirit.

    Given this reality, there are only two options left.

    Whites being overshadowed by growing Negro population


    Whites having Mexers and chinks as buffers against Negroes.
    (Good thing Korea is a small country because them dog-eating gooks are the worst.)

    Negroes are the worst, so if whites are doomed to be the minority, I’d rather it be in a nation full of mediocre Mexicans and rapacious Chiners than raping Jivers.

  146. @Priss Factor

    Just curious, but what does weak white men have to do with “buffer zones” and eating dogs?

  147. Bliss says:

    I have been shut out of mainstream journalism for at least 25 years

    The fact that you (Jared Taylor) and your ilk are seen as outcastes/pariahs by mainstream America is reason for optimism about the future of this country. Your kind was on the wrong side of history during the Civil War, WWII, the Civil Rights Movement and you are on the wrong side today. You confederate and nazi flag wavers are deadly enemies of America, and the civilized world.

    Our country will eventually have to come to grips with what drove Dylann Roof to murder.

    Get real. The country, and the world, has long known that it is racism that drives you confederates and neo-nazis. Dylann Roof’s worldview is completely congruent to yours.

  148. Bliss says:
    @Priss Factor

    Whites having Mexers and chinks as buffers against Negroes.

    When asians and hispanics, aka the New Americans, feel threatened by whites, will they not turn the tables and use black muscle as “buffer” against aggressive white racists?

    Btw, the rise of Donald Trump is bad news for white racists like you who dream of such an inter-racial alliance or buffer against blacks. Trump’s nativism seems to include the other Old Americans, african-americans.

    (Good thing Korea is a small country because them dog-eating gooks are the worst.)

    How did koreans go from the best (after the Rodney King riots) to the worst?

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  149. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Great Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:

    What drives Jewish Israel’s National Origins Immigration Policy? Obvious Answer:RACISM!!!!!

    What drives the majority nonwhite highly racialized Democratic Party’s Immigration Policy?Answer:RACISM?

    Who murdered over two thousand Orthodox Christian Russian Speaking Ukranians over the past two years? Answer:The majority nonwhite and Jewish RACIST Democratic Party.

    Can you give millions of Native Born White Americans any reasons why they should tolerate an immigration policy whose open and deliberate intent is very rapid mass demographic annihilation and wage slavery?

    Emitt Till got what he deserved…don’t whistle at White Women…his father Louis Till got what he deserved also.

    Bliss….are you Jewish?

  150. @Flower

    “It looks like what you are doing is searching hard for something to support your bigotry.”

    He will have to search far and wide to top the idiocy of “most violent planet in the known universe.”

  151. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factory"] says:

    “Btw, the rise of Donald Trump is bad news for white racists like you who dream of such an inter-racial alliance or buffer against blacks. Trump’s nativism seems to include the other Old Americans, african-americans.”

    I don’t dream. I just see the hard choices.

    Ideally, whites should have more kids and stick together. But whites have lost it.

    So, the only realistic option is majority non-white that is mostly non-black or majority non-white that is black.

    Negroes be ghastly.

    “How did koreans go from the best (after the Rodney King riots) to the worst?”

    Stupid Koreans imitate Negro and homo culture. They suck so bad.

  152. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Great Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:

    Your “Civilized” world..The Democratic Party…has murdered over two thousand Conservative Orthodox Christian Russian Speaking Ukranians in the past year in the Ukraine.

    Democratic Party Civilization=Pussy Riot desecrating Orthodox Christian Russian Churches…and three weeks later after this, the “Civilized” Democratic Party favorite Pussy Riot makes a porno starring the eight month very pregnant lead “singer” of Pussy Riot. Bliss you sicko…

    Democratic Party Civilizataion=violent psychopathic serial rapists Billy Clinton from Hot Springs and “Doctor” Bill Cosby…..

  153. @anon

    So switching the word “white” to “black” and applying that logic to the mainstream media you’d agree that the mainstream media promotes anti-white hate propaganda 24/7?


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  154. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Well I’d say that was pretty inconsistent of you. If you take your quote:

    Its main mission seems to be to find and memorialize every *white* victim of interracial violence. It never mentions *white* perpetrators. In that sense, it is pure propaganda, and most people would call it hateful propaganda.

    and change it to

    Its main mission seems to be to find and memorialize every *black* victim of interracial violence. It never mentions *black* perpetrators. In that sense, it is pure propaganda, and most people would call it hateful propaganda.

    it would fit the NYT.

  155. @Pacific

    don’t take this the wrong way, Pacific, but that’s a pretty stupid thing to say, making “Nazi” the stand-in, standard for everything that one thinks is the evilest fill-in-the-blank.

    Frequently, it reveals that person using that comparison is ignorant of what NSDAP really stood for.

    It’s understandable: NSDAP was demonized even before it came into being, and is still demonized in the same way with the same epithets after the people who were members of NSDAP had it tortured out of them — i.e. they were de-Nazified in a genuine exercise of democratization.

    The link that you posted states that a party in Germany that attempted to call itself NSDAP was made illegal and disbanded by the state. Another exercise in democratization.

    The more I read about what was done to the German people by FDR, Churchill, Stalin, and our good Jewish friends the more ashamed I am to be a member of the same human race. Those Jews who are so pleased to have incinerated and ethnically cleansed upward of 7 million Germans that they kept voluminous diaries — include Henry Morgenthau, Jr., whose diaries ran to a million pages. Peter Moreira summarized them in “Henry Morgenthau, Jr., The Jew Who Defeated Hitler.”

    Benjamin Ginsberg also wanted to make sure nobody overlooked the facts that Jews were prominent in defaming Germany; destroying its economy; ensuring financial, political and materiel support for Stalin’s Bolsheviks; and sending Jews to do some of the actual killing. Ginsberg captured these proud details in “How the Jews Defeated Hitler.”

    remember the holocaust.

    never again

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  156. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    LC. Looks like you triggered an antibody. Lol.

  157. Pacific says:

    I gave you the link to a list of number of white supremacist organizations in the USA and they are on the parallel to Germany and i don’t get what you are trying to say?
    You could not have looked at the link?

  158. Truth says:

    Hey Ron:

    “Jesus” lives, and he disagrees with you on immigration…

  159. Putting Roof on the couch would be harmless I suppose if it does not feed the impulse to legislate against thought crime. The corporate media promotes all kinds of division and strife between and among us. This serves to prevent us from coming together to defend against the predations of their authoritarian masters. In this case we have racially motivated killings being spun to rekindle the smoldering embers of the war between the states. Roof said he wanted to start a war. He may be too clever by half.

  160. Bernie says:
    @Gene Su

    Given the disparity of racial violence it is hard to point the finger at anyone but blacks.

  161. Bernie says:

    Then why is most interracial violence done by blacks?

  162. AndrewR [AKA "Aiden"] says:

    The massacre at the Emanuel AME Church has shaken our country more than any event since the attacks of September 11.

    …seriously? lol Wow.

  163. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I’ll make this short and sweet. As a 54 year old lower middle class, blue collar white man, I pray to God for a race war or better yet another “civil war”. We don’t want to live under your goddamn enforced “equality” any longer, nor do we give a fiddler’s fuck about your Marxist labels and buzzwords.

    Jews, their leftist white enablers and their nigger pets need righteous chastisement. The lid will eventually come off and rest assured we intend to pay you back in full for prospering from our dispossession. Take that to the bank.

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  164. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I can see that Mr. Taylor has written this article with a possible mainstream publication in mind. Unfortunately no amount of objectivity or levelheadedness will help. White people are forbidden from having legitimate grievances, and are only fodder to produce tax money to be redistributed to other groups, until they displaced by them.

  165. AndrewR [AKA "Aiden"] says:

    you have got to be some anti-white troll sent here to make pro-white people look bad

    that or you belong in a padded room

  166. AndrewR [AKA "Aiden"] says:

    lol u mad bro

  167. AndrewR [AKA "Aiden"] says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    please take your medication

  168. Sheila says:
    @Stan D Mute

    J T you said, “The website does not pretend to be balanced. It covers other subjects, but its main mission seems to be to find and memorialize every white victim of interracial violence. It never mentions white perpetrators. In that sense, it is pure propaganda, and most people would call it hateful propaganda…”.

    It is simply not true that only printing the issues of concern to and of a group or an individual is *pure propaganda*…you acknowledged the CCC printed the truth…it is true the truth can be used as propaganda, in point of fact is the *best propaganda*. Because the MSMedia and every so-called major paper or journal are all quick to make any issue or event one of racism and proof of oppression by white privilege, then under these circumstances, it cannot be possible that telling the other side by using only what is a true event or events means putting out *pure propaganda*. This is the first time I have ever read anything written by you that is simply not true. I am sure I know why you did it.

    But, you are right about one thing; kicking a man or woman when s/he is down is merely creating anger, resentment, and hate. There is always a limit.

  169. No! These people are products of the system so we should expect more of these terrorists in the future.

  170. Other Joe says:

    “How Can We Prevent Future Dylann Roofs?”

    Um, draft them and tell them they are special (as in special forces)?

  171. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Why would anyone want to prevent future ‘Dylann Roof’s? Surely then the media corporations would go bankrupt?
    And of course I would not have any satisfaction in portraying him in video games I very much enjoy creating….
    Maybe it’s a little bit macabre, especially when a laser beam accidentally on purpose connects with his head in level 2, but these things happen…..

  172. @Stealth

    I’d argue that the Rebel Flag cannot be flown on government property simply because of the rebel aspect. But, if every other group has a private flag (even trans people ffs), then whites could have one. Heck, they could take out the stars so it doesn’t remind people of the Civil War. Besides, most people had forgotten all about the racial aspect in recent decades. Black Atlantan rapper Lil Jon wore the flag in the 00s, Tom Petty from Gainesville, FL, too (rip), Kid Rock from Michigan (!) still does. So it should not matter if Southerners of any race can just buy a flag for private use to remind them of their culturally distinct South. Because yes, the South is culturally distinct, and it has extended itself to the Mid and (white) Southwest in a way, since there is no other white identitarian group in the midst of reverse racism…

    Perhaps I’m biased because in Latin America the conquistadors have statues all over the place, even if we have more brown/black/native influence than ever. And no one cares – we just know we have important politicians of every race who were needed at different times in history. We have monuments to brave and outstanding natives and blacks too; but, the elite and therefore the culture is set by Westernized white/brownish elites (just look at pics of Latin presidents, most are historically settler criollo whiteish guys), albeit with an increasingly brown pop culture. As a foreigner, I notice America has many similar problems to countries with big minorities and/or regional divides. Therefore, idk if there is a clear solution other than compromise. You could very well need to quit the Confederate flag in exchange for the recognition of black-on-white crime. But it’s been three years, and that did not happen. So who knows. Was Charlie Manson right about the race war?

  173. @Andrew E. Mathis

    From your link:

    Lincoln we continue to define ourselves. Most historians have discarded the myth of the saintly Great Emancipator, but they have also rejected the counter myth of Lincoln as a hopeless racist

    So it’s neither here, nor there. Lincoln simply wanted to keep the Union together under Northern Whig control and told everyone what they wanted to hear. And he did believe in the colonization idea most of his life, unless he was bluffing all that time. Or was he bluffing to his abolitionist base? It would seem he would want to court votes amongst the newly freed black populace, but he only said so very late in the war when it was about to be won (even conceding giving blacks the vote would be dependant on military service and “intelligence”, in effect validating the infamous reading tests?) Thus it would seem Lincoln wanted to use the current Democrat strategy of using black votes plus Northeastern whites; problem was, he was shot and killed, and subsequent Republican administrations found it was impossible to rule the South without occupying it and forcing equality that simply blacks were not ready for. Either that, or, in the other historical reading, Northern and Southern whites simply made amends and kept blacks down. That could be said of the Jim Crow era, but Reconstruction, as Zora Neale Hurston claims, was the bigger waste. All it was good for was for Northern carpetbaggers who used newly available labor. Blacks could neither rule themselves according to their customs (which even then Neale Hurston criticized in her famous novels) nor compete with poor but angry whites (Irish were being brought in too btw). And the resentment among the latter losing economic power led to the tolerance of Jim Crow during the McKinley-Taft-TR years. So perhaps we can never know how the second Lincoln term might have ended – perhaps today the two parties might have reversed their roles in ways. Perhaps Lincoln would have given the generals semi dictatorial roles – because it is clear he was not going to give full equal power to blacks, who outnumbered whites in many states and had many grievances (not all of them were learned like Douglas, T. Washington, et al). At any rate, this doesn’t make Lincoln any less the opportunist politician – though to be fair, at times the deed surpasses the character, and Lincoln by keeping the Union together and starting the process of freedom to American blacks was overall a positive. The problem, is that the few negatives were never fully dealt with, on both the black and white ends. And thus we keep having problems to these days…

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