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Nero played his fiddle, Obama shot baskets and Trump twittered while their empires burned.

What makes empires decay and what makes empires expand has everything to do with their relations between rulers and the ruled. Several factors are decisive. These include: (1) rent, land and housing, (2) the direction of living standards, (3) the rise or fall of mortality rate, (4) decline or rise of families.

Throughout history rising empires incorporate their population into the task of empire by distributing a portion of their plunder to their masses, by providing them with land, low rents and housing. Large scale landlords facing returning young war veterans reduced excessive land concentration to avoid domestic unrest.

Rising empires raised living standards,as salaried employees, workers and artisans, merchants and scribes found employment as the oligarchies expanding conspicuous consumption and expanded the state bureaucracy running the empire.

A prosperous empire is cause and consequence of increases in families,and the growth of healthy and educated plebeians who serviced and served the rulers.

In contrast, declining empires plunder the domestic economy; concentrated wealth at the expense of the labor force, heedless of the diminution of its health and life expectancy. As a result deteriorating empires experience an increasing rate of mortality; homeownership and land is concentrated in an elite of rentiers living off of unearned wealth via inheritance, speculation, rents which degrades productive work based on skill and knowledge.

Declining empires are cause and consequence of deteriorating families composed of opioid addicted workers suffering from rising inequalities between rulers and ruled.

The US imperial experience over the past century embodies the trajectory of the rise and fall of empires. The past quarter century describes the relations between rulers and ruled at a time of declining empire.

Living standards of Americans have declined precipitously. Employers have ceased paying for pensions; reduced or eliminated health coverage; reduced corporate taxes thus lowering the quality of public education.

Over the past two decades, wages and salaries for the majority of households have stagnated or declined; education and health expenses bankrupting many and reducing university graduates to long-term debt peonage.

Accessibility to home ownership for Americans under 45 years has fallen dramatically from 24% in 2006 to 14% in 2017. At the same time, rents have skyrocketed especially in large cities across the country, in most cases absorbing between a third and half of monthly income.

Business elites and their housing experts divert attention to “intergenerational’ inequalities between pensioners and younger wage and salaried employees instead of reconizing rising inequalities between CEO and both workers and pensioners which have risen from 100-to-1 to 400-to-1 over the past three decades.

Mortality rates between the business elite and workers have widened as the wealthy live longer and healthier lives while workers have experienced declining life expectancy, the first time in American history! As the business elites income from profits, dividends, interest increase they can afford high cost private medical care, prolonging life, while millions of workers are prescribed death-inducing opioids, to ‘reduce pain’ and precipitate premature death.

Births are declining as a result of the high cost of medical care, the absence of day care and paid maternal or paternal leave. The most recent studies revealed that 2017 experienced the fewest babies in 30 years. The so-called “economic recovery’ following the financial collapse of 2008/9 was class based: the real estate and financial elites received over two trillion dollars in bailouts while over 3 million working class households were evicted by financial mortgage holders. The result was a rapid rise in homeless people especially in cities with the highest rate of recovery from the crises.

Homelessness and crowded overpriced rentals and minimum wages are likely causes of declining birthrates and increasing mortality rates.

Imperialism Expands, Living Standards Decline

Unlike the earlier, post WWII decades in which overseas expansion was accompanied by low-cost higher education, accessible low-cost mortgages and increasing home ownership, and employer paid pensions and health coverage, over the past two decades imperial expansion is based on forced reductions of living standards.

The empire grew and living standards declined because the capitalist class evaded trillions of taxable income via overseas tax havens, transfer pricing and tax exemptions. Moreover, capitalists received massive state subsidies for infrastructure, and cost-free transfers of public funded technological innovations.

Imperial expansion now is based on the relocation of multi-national manufacturing corporations overseas to lower labor costs, increasing the percentage of low wage service workers in the US .

The decline of living standards for the majority is a result of the restructuring of the empire, the advent of the regressive tax system, the redistribution of State welfare transfers from public social spending to private finance and real estate subsidies and bailouts.


In the beginning imperialism involved an explicit social contract with labor: overseas expansion shared profits, taxes and income with labor in exchange for workers political support for imperial overseas economic exploitation, resource plundering as well as serving in the imperial armed forces .

The social contract was conditioned by a relative balance of power: unionized workers represented the majority of manufacturing, public sector and skilled workers. But this balance of power in class relations was based on the capacity of labor to engage in class struggle and influence the state. In other words the entire imperialism and welfare configuration was based on a particular set of conditional relations intrinsic to the social pact.

Over time imperial expansion faced overseas constraints from rising national and socialist opposition which forced or encouraged corporations it to relocate capital abroad. Imperial rivals in Europe and Asia competed for overseas markets forcing the US to increase productivity, lower labor costs, relocate abroad or reduce profits. The US chose to reduce domestic living standards and relocating abroad.


Labor unions divorced from the broader community movements and lacking an independent political movement, corrupted from within and committed to a disappearing social compact, declined in number and capacity to formulate a new combatative post social pact strategy. The capital class gained total control over class relations and, therefore, unilaterally set the terms of taxation, employment, living standards and, most important, state expenditure.

Imperial military and economic expenditures grew in direct proportions to the decline of social welfare payments. Rival power groups fought over the share of capitalist budgets and political-military priorities. Economic imperialists competed with or converged with military imperialists; free market neo-liberals competed for overseas markets with national militarists pursuing territorial occupations, conquests, closed markets and submissive clients. Rival political power configuration competed over imperial priorities – powerful Zionist configurations sought regional wars for Israel while multi-nationals looked to advance their political-economic expansion in Asia – China, India and Southeast Asian markets.

Competing elite factions monopolized budgets, taxes and expenditures driving labor living standards downward. Imperialist classes formed pacts – but only among themselves – but the quality and quantity of workers decreased – through impoverished health care and, educational systems. In contrast Elite offspring attended the best schools and secured the highest posts in government and economy.

Privilege and power did not produce imperial triumphs. China harnessed educational programs and skilled workers to productive work.In contrast privileged US university graduates sought employment in parasitical but lucrative financial positions not in science, engineering and social welfare.Military academy graduates joined networks of ‘commanders’ who condoned sexual abusers, trained and promoted officers who sent missiles which targeted military bases and bombed population centers and trained naval captains specializing in own-ship collisions.

Ivy League graduates secured high government positions leading the US into endless Middle East wars, multiplying adversaries, antagonizing allies and spending trillions on wars for Israel, not social welfare and higher wages for American workers . Oh yes the ‘economy’ is recovering…. only the people are doing worse.

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  1. Is it any surprise that the mass media ignores the death of the middle class while freaking out about the latest faux outrage against the latest Minority Victim of the Month?

    • Replies: @Alden
  2. Anonymous [AKA "Hub C"] says:

    Speaking of parasitic financial jobs most young American college graduates are subconsciously trained to seek, they are also getting shafted by cryptocurrency scams like the Bitconnect fiasco. It’s so difficult to know who to trust.

    • Agree: Realist
    • Replies: @Biff
  3. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:

    Thank you. This could be an effective essay in opening Americans’ eyes to real life under Imperial Washington.

    But someone needs to edit it! The eyepoking errors in verb tense, punctuation, sentence and overall structure are weapons that Establishmentarians will use to discredit the insights. Otherwise reachable readers will use the mistakes to subconsciously rationalize their disregard of what Mr. Petras has to say.

    One way to both proofread and sharpen a written argument is to read it aloud. Your best writing should sound like your most eloquent oral speech.

  4. Svigor says:

    Not really. There’s no meat. No graphs, no citations, Hell, there’s really no evidence cited. It’s one long series of assertions.

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    , @prusmc
  5. Lochearn says:

    I couldn’t disagree more. In the whole text I found one mistake. It is a brilliantly written, extremely concise piece of work. If this is not good enough for you, please give us an example of your own prose.

    • Replies: @Svigor
    , @Svigor
    , @in the middle
  6. The answer to the decline and the destruction of America can be found in THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION which lays out the Zionist agenda of a Zionist controlled NWO and everything that the Zionists have done to America such as installing the 10 planks of the communist manifesto are almost 100% completed.

    The Zionists took control of America when they fastened their privately owned FED and IRS on the American people and thus set in motion the wars and the method of paying for the wars that the Zionist bankers planned and pushed America into starting with WWI and right down to the wars in the middle east , all wars are Zionist banker wars.

    To see what the Zionists have done and are doing in pursuit of a Zionist NWO read THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION.

    • Replies: @myself
  7. denk says:

    over the past two decades imperial expansion is based on forced reductions of living standards.

    I do not have the chance to peek at the potus daily to do list…but I can guess.


    Conference with P on how to stir up shit in TW straits,

    Conference with P on how to stir up shit in SCS,

    Conference with P on how to stir up shit in ECS,


    Conference with P on how to stir up shit in HK

    Conference with P on how to stir up shit in Tibet,

    Conference with P on how ot stir up shit in Xinjiang,


    Spread rumors about massive Russian ‘interference’

    Spread rumors about extensive Chinese cyber attacks,

    Spread rumors about ‘sonic attacks on murkkan officials’ in Beijing,

    etc etc etc…………….

    potus own note
    That’ll keep the kids busy looking the other way without noticing the leaking roofs, !

    This would be typical of anyone of the potus since 1785, with their entire ‘working day’ dedicated to rule the world, its a miracle they still have time left to run murkka.


  8. @anonymous

    The same occurred to me too. That said, Dr. Petras is multi-lingual, age 81 and still rather active, so we maybe shouldn’t be so harsh with the nit-picking. We might also ask what his payment is for this piece.

    I generally don’t care too much for what he typically publishes here, but this one is pretty spot on.

  9. @Svigor

    If you’ll just get in a car and do a little serious gonzo driving around in Amurika (if you can afford to) you won’t need any stinkin’ graphs and citations.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @Svigor
  10. I have only one thing to say to Petras: yup!

  11. Svigor says:
    @Jim Bob Lassiter

    Then what the fuck good is the article?

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  12. Svigor says:

    There are at least a half-dozen subject-verb disagreements, or there were when I read it – I didn’t check to see if they’ve been corrected.

    There’s much I agree with in the piece, but it read like a draft, and had zero meat.

  13. Svigor says:

    I don’t need to be an astronaut to notice if an astronaut has just crashed his spacecraft, a quarterback to notice that a quarterback has just thrown an interception, etc.

  14. Svigor says:

    Jim Bob, to put a bit finer point on it, I think we can all agree that the American standard of living has substantially declined since 1965, in many ways. What I would like to see is evidence that it had not substantially climbed not too long before 1965.

    It’s one thing when you have a hundred years of one standard of living, only to have it decline substantially; it’s quite another to have it rise substantially, then decline back to where it was in a generation or two. In the latter case, it is the rise that seems to be the anomaly, not the decline.

    Then there are quibbles about specifics, like education. We can throw as much money as we like at education, but it will remain a shitshow until it is prised from the grasp of leftists. Contrariwise, in the hands of a serious regime we could have a great educational system on a shoestring budget.

    Then there’s the fact that the word “immigration” makes 0 appearances in Petras’ piece.

    In this context and in my experience, that is a big red flag that reads “Hi, I’m full of shit.”

    • Replies: @Alden
  15. Alden says:

    Most establishmentarians and most readers, especially his fellow journalists won’t notice any grammatical mistakes
    Or awkwardness.

    American public schools stopped teaching grammar around 1970 because grammar and correct speech and writing are racist and insulting to blacks. Since private schools use the same textbooks, they followed the public schools.

  16. Alden says:

    You are right that the great workers paradise of 1940 to 1970 was an anomaly.

    We’ll probably never see it again.

  17. Svigor says:

    Now, the dramatic cultural, racial, ethnic, and demographic decline we’ve seen since 1965, that is very real, and you have to go back many centuries to find the incline, the other side of the plateau.

    It’s been more than 500 years since Europeans widely practiced tattooing, scarification, mutilation, extensive piercing, and the like – and aside from the panmixia, these are just the most visually striking examples of the degeneracy sweeping the West.

    But Marxists and other leftists like Petras approve of all of this.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Alden
    , @Alden
    , @Vidi
  18. Alden says:

    My post was about the economy, full employment, cost of housing utilities transportation and other absolutely necessary things in sinc with wages, not cultural degeneration and decadence

    • Replies: @Svigor
  19. Alden says:

    I had no idea that Europeans practiced tattooing, piercings except for earrings, scarification 500 years ago.

    It was always my impression that the Christian church kept many Jewish practices such as burial as opposed to Pagan European cremation, mandated sabbath day of rest and church services, monogamy, and covered up women.

    Judaism forbids tattoos, scarification and anything that cause even a drop of blood because of the strange Jewish taboo against blood

    Christianity has no blood taboo and as far as I know no Christian religion forbids tattoos. No tattoos was another Jewish custom adopted by Christian Europe.

    Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe we’ve read different historians. Maybe it was different in orthodox Eastern Europe from the catholic west.

    • Replies: @Svigor
    , @Jim Bob Lassiter
  20. Alden says:

    In America tattoos and piercings seem to have gone out of fashion. I never see people under 35 with tattoos and piercings any more.

    Maybe it’s where I’ve lived but I’ve seldom seen tattoos

  21. Alden says:
    @Fidelios Automata

    Strange thing is that most journalists are middle class themselves outside of a few TV stars.

    I guess they think they are some kind of intellectual genius aristocrats far superior to the rest of us.

    But their income is middle class. In the big cities they might make $90,000 to $110,000 a year, but it’s just a basic living in NYC, DC, and other big cities. The big city black and Hispanic illiterate felon bus drivers make the same as the journalists

    Soooo who the F do they think they are?

  22. Svigor says:

    I know. I was just saying that the areas where we’ve seen a real, civilizational decline are the ones leftists don’t have any complaints about.

  23. Svigor says:

    Yeah I live in the Southeast. Half the population is spattered with tattoos, and even the people who aren’t are always talking about getting them. ‘Course I know a lot of proles.

  24. edNels says:

    Agreed. The last sentence of the second to last paragraph is confusing:

    Military academy graduates joined networks of ‘commanders’ who condoned sexual abusers, trained and promoted officers who sent missiles which targeted military bases and bombed population centers and trained naval captains specializing in own-ship collisions.

    Commanders should send missiles to target military bases… (enemy bases, that is!) right or wrong?

    There’s no doubt though that whether one intends to criticize policy or to say anything that pisses anybody off, punctuation should be correct, meanings should be simple as possible, examples and back up facts should be plain, and so on.

    I have to give Mr. Petras a B on this essay, because of that little flaw I found.

  25. Svigor says:

    I said “more than 500” so as to avoid a boring conversation as to when the switch actually happened, since it undoubtedly happened at different times in different places.

    Aesthetically I’m a Greek humanist type; to me the body is a work of art, not a canvass. The New Testament says the body is a temple, and I’m inclined to agree – tattoos seem like graffiti on the walls. Like a vandal tagging the Mona Lisa.

    I would no more see the human body tattooed than I would see the walls of the Grand Canyon painted, the shoulders of Devils Tower carved, etc.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Alden
  26. The attacks against Dr. Petras are without merit. Whether he is from the left or the right most of what he said is true. If you need graphs look them up you can find the stuff on the net if you are interested. A few points: 1) his failure to place more emphasis on the controllers of the economic pathways…the khazars 2) the real amount of money we have spent on wars (especially for the khazars) 3) the influx of both illegal and legal immigration has a massive effect on the economic, social and environmental damage that the middle class and poor must bear.

    Dr. Petras makes the point that the privileged students from these so called elite universities went into financial venues rather than STEM. Sorry but most of these so called geniuses in financial institutions can’t do STEM work. It’s kind of amazing that they can do financial math but lack serious quantitative analytical skill in the sciences. Dr. Taleb makes this point in his books. Also, the little game that the leftist rich play by using the race card to divide us while cashing in on all of it.

    • Replies: @Svigor
    , @Alden
  27. @Alden

    “Judaism forbids tattoos, scarification and anything that cause even a drop of blood because of the strange Jewish taboo against blood ”

    Really? ‘Splain me how bloodless circumcisions are done.

    “Christianity has no blood taboo and as far as I know no Christian religion forbids tattoos. ”

    I don’t know about that either. The language would seem to cover tattoos and general THOTery.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Alden
    , @in the middle
  28. Alden says:

    The thing that’s dead wrong about the article is that great empires treated their workers well. The Turkish and Roman Empire workers were slaves. Treatment varied from decent to atrocious.

    The British empire treated its workers at home far worse than they treated the workers in the overseas empire. The long hours of physical labor as children and centuries of malnutrition actually shrunk the English working class.

    The Scots lived on oats. The Irish lived on potatoes and milk. They didn’t shrink between the 17th and 20th centuries as the severely malnourished and over worked as children English working classes did

    That part of Petras’s article is pure ignorance of past empires.

    I don’t think America is a real empire at all
    Empires get tribute, favorable very restrictive trade agreements and benefits from being an empire.

    America spends and spends to benefit other countries and its taxpayers money goes for tribute to other countries.

    We sell almost nothing to the rest of the world and import almost everything but food natural gas and oil. America conquered Germany and Japan in WW2. We immediately set to making those countries better places for the average person than America is. We import millions of German and Japanese cars every year but export almost none to those countries

    America is also the health welfare and education system of Latin Anerica and the old age pension and elders health system of China and even out big enemy, Iran.

    What is foreign aid?
    Direct deposit for dictators

    What is foreign aid?
    A mass transfer of funds from the American working class to third and fourth world aristocrats.

    Petras must have run across Karl Marx and David Ricardo. Both stated what every one knows. The more workers there are the less each worker will be paid.

    Historically in America the “vast army of the unemployed” has been augmented by importation, not natural increase of labor

    He’s right about the decline of the middle class but that’s all. He didn’t mention the cause of the decline of the middle class, the conspiracy of liberals and capitalists to exterminate the middle class Whites and replace them with brown slaves.

    Some of the 1930s depression movies show a thousand applying for a couple job openings at a factory. Not much different nowadays

    • Replies: @Svigor
  29. @Svigor

    Then what the fuck good is the article?

    Anything beyond what’s written would fall on deaf ears anyway, so why make the effort?

    The article has value in that it may wake up a few or encourage some of those who are waking up, at a minimum.

  30. @Alden

    In America tattoos and piercings seem to have gone out of fashion. I never see people under 35 with tattoos and piercings any more.

    My wife came home from work astonished at the fact that 20 somethings were thinking of getting tattoos and that some have spent $3,000.00 (three thousand) on one, so maybe they’re not so much out of fashion as unaffordable.

    I wish it was both since most of the damned things strike me as both hideous and useless. Piercings are even more grotesque in my opinion.

    Also to those who think “Leftists” approve of those things, I know a 70 yr old Trump voter with all of the above plus those ear lobe hole thingys that are positively stupid. At least the guy is consistent!

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Clyde
    , @Alden
  31. Capitalism was regulated during the post war boom. Glass Steagall, Anti Trust, progressive taxation, UNIONS. A well regulated Capitalism can be an engine of prosperity for everybody. But it requires honest, intelligent governance. The opposite of corruption which is what we have today.

    Deregulate and you get a dozen people like Zuck and Bezos who have everything while the rest of us have nothing. A post-modern Feudalism. Rent seekers love deregulation. Libertarians think a monopoly is a success story.

    Unfortunately nobody has ever found a way to keep money, greed, money, lust for power and money out of politics. It’s like trying to keep water out of your basement. Bad government is the inevitable result of human nature.

    • Replies: @Alden
  32. Can you not edit yourself as a courtesy to readers who are confronted here with two opening paragraphs which have no rational connection. Nero’s Rome was only pausing before great future expansion. I am sure you would find it hard to imagine a similar future for America.

  33. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @jacques sheete

    I see young professional sportsmen with lots of tattoos. And I am told porn “stars” are at least appearing to have genuine tattoos though maybe they are 35+ mutton (un) dressed as lamb…

  34. @anonymous

    And, as I note above…. those ridiculous two opening paragraphs. Maybe learned from a Community College course in creative writing for gonzo journalism?

  35. @Alden

    A worker’s paradise that was so bad for married white women that they shoved their daughters and granddaughters into college by the double handful to keep them from living in it.

    • Replies: @Alden
  36. Seems like someone has turned the light off? The elites don’t care about the future of the Empire, they kill the horses they ride – it is a madness, or a religious madnes – who knows?!

    • Replies: @Vidi
  37. @anonymous

    The Establishmentarians are the pussies.

  38. Vidi says:

    But Marxists and other leftists like Petras approve of [tattooing, piercings, etc.].

    First you do some grammar nitpicking, and now you drop some bait on a side issue. Do anything to distract from Petras’ main thesis, that the oligarchs have the power and so they are mainly to blame for the decline of America.

    Get the people to fight each other, split them up as much as possible, so they do not unite against their real enemies, the oligarchs. Divide and rule, divide et impera.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  39. Svigor says:

    He’s a Marxist, a socialist, a radical leftist. The essay is evidence and data free, and in need of an editor. The author whistles past the open borders graveyard.

    These are facts, not attacks. Whether one has a problem with any or all of these facts is another matter.

    • Replies: @Alden
  40. Svigor says:

    Good point: America is more a colony of the globalist oligarch class than an empire.

    P.S., apropos of nothing, but I find a lot of Marxist/socialist observation and lingo makes sense. E.g., “false consciousness.” That is a 100% real thing, as evidence by the typical race-blind atomized individual White American useful idiot.

    • Replies: @Alden
  41. Vidi says:

    Seems like someone has turned the light off? The elites don’t care about the future of the Empire, they kill the horses they ride

    That seems true. Indeed the powers that be do not care for the people who are working to support them. I think it’s because the powers — the elites — are busy fighting each other. The internal conflict is so vicious that they do not have time for anybody or anything else. That may explain why they seem so greedy (which they are anyway): they need resources for the infighting, and can’t spare any for anyone else.

  42. Clyde says:
    @jacques sheete

    I know a 70 yr old Trump voter with all of the above plus those ear lobe hole thingys that are positively stupid. At least the guy is consistent!

    Those disgusting retarded ear things are called gauges. Seems to me you start w small guages and keep going bigger.

  43. Alden says:
    @The Practical Conservative

    Whatever. It was really the college loans that sent all the working class men and women to college
    And it was the massive price inflation wage stagnation of the early 1970s that sent married women off to the workplace gulag.

  44. Alden says:

    That 5,000 year old Iceman Itzi corpse discovered up in the Alps had some tattoos

  45. Alden says:

    Oh well, we all have our issues. Mine’s affirmative action, the colleges and immigration legal and illegal.

  46. Alden says:

    Might mention that the STEM employers don’t really want White or even Asian Americans, just H1 B visa asian Indian foreigners .

  47. The social contract was conditioned by a relative balance of power: unionized workers represented the majority of manufacturing, public sector and skilled workers.

    That never happened. “At their peak in 1954, 34.8% of all U.S. wage and salary workers belonged to unions, according to the Congressional Research Service.”

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Alden
  48. Alden says:
    @Jim Bob Lassiter

    Just ask Mr. google about the Jewish taboos against blood tattoos, cuts and the whole kosher slaughter thing

    It’s not sanitation, it’s to drain all the blood out so the purchaser won’t encounter any blood while preparing the meat. It’s even against glatt kosher to eat rare steak or beef that shows the slightest tinge of pink

    If you knew anything about Judaism, you’d know about the blood taboo. But you don’t know anything about Judaism and just wanted to start yet another fight based on your ignorance

    Just ask google or any other search engine. Be sure to look up why it’s against orthodox Jewish law to have sex with ones wife 14 days of the month and the whole kosher slaughter thing.

  49. Alden says:
    @Jim Bob Lassiter

    Not a bible devotee. I always assumed the no tattoo Christian thing was just another Jewish custom the Christian Europeans kept. Even the forbidding of autopsies was from Judaism.

    Seems you want a fight. Why? Are you Jonathan Revulsky using another name?

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
  50. Alden says:

    Marx was in favor of suburbs and advocated government building the roads to jobs in the city that would make them possible

  51. Alden says:

    I looked at the link. Sociology PHD from Berkeley in 1972. He may have changed but sociology at that time was pure Marx. It wasn’t all that racial except for preaching hatred of White southern Democrats to White northern Republicans.

  52. Alden says:

    Conventional wisdom is that the large numbers of union membership forced non union employers to keep wages and conditions on a par with union employers.

    My Dad was a personnel manager in a big non union factory in the 50s 6os. The wages working conditions and benefits were pretty much the same as union factories. Dad was lucky. He retired early enough before the Wolves of Wall Street looted the pension fund

    One thing Petras gets dead wrong is claiming there were public employees unions in the 1950s. There weren’t. Most states made public employee unions illegal. It was only after affirmative action that public employee dreck got unionized

    Of course the conventional wisdom never mentions that

    1 the massive flood of cheap labor from Europe ended in the 1925 immigration

    2 the employers had not yet convinced Johnson to ram the 1965 immigration act thru Congress

    1925 to 1965 was the only time American employers couldn’t hire foreigner workers instead of American workers. But they managed to get that changed, didn’t they

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
  53. Alden says:

    The social contract was largely based on fear of communism, not the desire of capital and labor to work together create a happy prosperous society

    Communism was very popular in the 1930s, from the colleges of course, to the FDR administration to the unions and the working class or the poverty stricken who wished they were working

    The solution was

    1 elect Truman instead of FDR’s communist pick Henry Wallace and clear a few of FDRs communists out of the government

    2 put up with private sector unions for a couple decades till the cheap labor express could get moving again

    Nothing of course was done about the colleges. The communists who took them over stayed in control until another generation of useful idiot intellectuals morphed from class warfare to race, sex and gay vs straight warfare.

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
  54. Alden says:
    @jacques sheete

    Guess it depends on where you live. Sometimes in summer when they wear shorts I see a black post man with tattoos all over his legs. Seems a waste black tattoos on brown skin

    But i almost never see tattoos. I work at a university but it’s very difficult to get into. I guess studying hard prevents tattoos?

  55. Alden says:

    I agree agree agree.

    Did you read that Amazon pays no income taxes? I wouldn’t be surprised if Amazon managed to get out of paying property tax on its warehouses and other buildings
    Seattle, the most crazy insane liberal city in the country is as proud of being Amazon headquarters as it’s proud of having a statue of Lenin.

  56. Svigor says:

    The quasi-enemy of my enemy is not my friend.

    P.S., I simply agreed with someone else’s point that the article is sloppily-written, in response to someone who dispute that fact.

    Unzite commies seem to need someone to argue with.

    • Replies: @Vidi
  57. Svigor says:

    The quasi-enemy of my enemy is not my friend.

    The relationship between Petras, myself, and the regime is kinda like what you’d have before the Russian Revolution if the Whites had been National Socialists.

  58. @Alden

    The book ShopClass as Soul Craft is relevant here. Making things is different from pushing papers, and those industrial unions were different in character from the government unions that predominate today, and have turned government into a looting exercise to transfer wealth from poorer, younger taxpayers to richer, older union retirees. I don’t see a way out of this for Illinois.

    The effect of unions outside union shops is a strong point. Thanks for the gentle reminder.

  59. @Alden

    Ironically, the only academic place I’ve worked where the commies (not really; more useless administrative eaters) were controlled was at a unionized Massachusetts state college. The faculty still had real power there and could control the admin nuttiness.

  60. myself says:
    @Desert Fox

    privately owned FED and IRS on the American people

    Wait a minute. OK, sure the “Federal Reserve” is basically the “Private Bank Reserve” – to quote a well known show: “about as Federal . . . as FedEx”.

    But your’re not actually saying TAXATION (!!!) is in private hands?!? The Internal Revenue Service is private?

    The only precedent I can think of is the Roman Empire subcontracting out tax-collecting to private tax collectors, who were given massive incentive to fleece subject peoples.

    As long as Rome received its share, the tax-collectors could collect whatever amounts they could cajole, coerce or intimidate citizens and subjects into coughing up.

    • Replies: @James Forrestal
  61. @Alden

    I don’t want a fight. Just seeking a little truth and I make my share of errors in the process. But you seem convinced that I do; so why don’t you just go suck a freshly circumcised weenie clean of all of its blood?

  62. prusmc says: • Website

    Agree with spigot. Lot of generalizations but nothing to allow concrete affirmation or factual refutation.
    Concerning Unions: at the local, state and federal level employees are far more organized than ever found in the manufacturing era labor force. Moreover, in the sectors of industry still thriving( where government is the prime purchaser of product) uionization is well and happy. Pensions are secure and costs are no obstacle SO wages and benefits have no practical up ward limit.
    The author is incorrect asserting that public funding parsimony is starving social welfare callings. What was the share of GDP spent on defense in 1963 and what was the total strength of the armed forces Then? What about 2015? Obviously, much of the current defense expenditure is camouflaged and accounting is less than clear ; however, what do the manpower counts and expenditure percentages reveal?
    It would require a Master Thesis to deal with these assertation which may be valid in some parts but skip a vital point: how much legal and open border illegal immigration was found in the early 1960’s? On a inflation adjusted basis what is the difference between per pupil costs in 1962 (during the post Sputnik surge) and in 2015? I doubt if it will show schools prosperous then and starving today?

  63. Aside from the subtle suggestion that socialism is the answer, I found the article compelling.

  64. Vidi says:

    The quasi-enemy of my enemy is not my friend.
    P.S., I simply agreed with someone else’s point that the article is sloppily-written, in response to someone who dispute that fact.

    I don’t care what you claim are your motives. I react only to what you actually say or do. In seemingly doing your best to draw some attention from the Petras thesis (that the oligarchs are mainly responsible for America’s weakness), you may as well be working for the oligarchy.

    It’s clearly in the rulers’ interests to make the people fight each other as much as possible, or to distract them somehow, so that they do not unite against their real enemies and overthrow them. Divide and rule, divide et impera, is a strategy much older than Rome.

    You are doing a such a good job on the distraction part, you may as well be an oligarch’s pet parrot.

  65. ohmy says: • Website

    I think you’re on to something.

  66. @Alden

    For that to be true, first we would have to exclude that little State of 40 million, California, where almost 1 in every 8 Americans lives. Tattoos are very very popular and I’d bet that 20% of people under age forty have one, in LA, Orange County, San Diego area too, Bako and Inland Empire too, Sacramento and San Fran and the rest of Northern Cali too.

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  67. @RadicalCenter

    Same could be said for LSD as tattoos also. Ergo, let’s all drop some acid.

  68. @Lochearn

    It is a brilliantly written,

    Sometimes all you do need is common sense, who the hell needs ‘graphs’, ‘citations’ when is common sensed! Makes so much sense, that asking for ‘graphs’ is beyond pale! The points are so clear and intelligent presented, that no ‘citations’ are needed.

  69. @Jim Bob Lassiter

    Really? ‘Splain(explain) me how bloodless circumcisions are done.

    Well, it could be ‘bloodless’, the rabbi sucks the blood gushing out with his disgusting mouth; the pervert!

  70. @myself

    The only precedent I can think of is the Roman Empire subcontracting out tax-collecting to private tax collectors, who were given massive incentive to fleece subject peoples.

    Much more recently — the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Do a search for “arenda system.”

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