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See my earlier column Terrorism Quotient

The idea is that there is a suite of behavioral traits that is more prevalent in many Muslim populations which makes them more likely to perpetrate acts of terrorism.

This is illustrated by the number of terrorist acts (defined here as instances of mass murder/assault/hostage taking) per capita for a given population. There is little question that this rate is incredibly high for many Muslim populations relative to other populations (and of course, there is a great deal of variation between Muslim populations) – even more so when you consider the sizes of the Muslim populations living in Western countries

Because the differences between these groups of people is inherited, the result of centuries of natural selection in their respective environments, these features can’t be expected to change much. Northwestern Europeans and Arabs (and many other Muslim groups) are, as groups, largely incompatible. Social strife emerges when they are brought together as they are in modern Northwestern European countries.

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  1. Those photos appear to quash the rumour that you’re black.

    • Replies: @JayMan
  2. Jayman, in a comment under your “Terrorism Quotient” article, asked you a question that admits a simple yes/no answer: Do you believe that false flag terrorism exists?

    You did not answer my question, but it is an important one. So I ask it again. NB. I am not asking you anything regarding this latest incident. I simply ask whether you believe that false flag terrorism exists. Yes or no?

    (Actually, there is a third possible answer which is: “I don’t know.” But it is one of the three possible answers.)

    • Replies: @Jonah
  3. BobX [AKA "Bob who~offers unasked parenting advice"] says:

    This weekend I was at the end of the counter of my favorite breakfast restaurant when a grandfather and two children came in. They were standing next to me waiting for a table. The younger one about the apparent age of young master JayMan; the older perhaps in the 5-6 range. I handed the children a menu and the youngest said sheepishly I can’t read yet and passed it to the older. I replied that is what older sisters are good for. The older child frowned and said with much indignation “I am not a girl”. I amended my reply to “big brothers are also good for that” which given his facial expression did not really satisfy him with my cultural failings. I looked at grandpa and said I guess I put my foot in it there and he laughed.

    In this light perhaps you might want to have a conversation with Mrs. JayMan as to when it might be time to introduce young master JayMan to the manly ritual of the barber shop. I would suggest sooner is better than later.

    • Replies: @JayMan
    , @JayMan
  4. Does the propensity for terrorism/violence have corollaries in other races/genetic groups?

    • Replies: @JayMan
  5. If propensity for violence is genetic, is it defensible to employ a retributivist philosophy of law (and punishment) in your opinion?

    Preventing immigration from the Arab (and larger Islamic) world into Western countries obviously has a utilitarian basis. On an individual level, if a person is genetically predisposed to higher levels of anti-social behavior, are they still fully, morally culpable?

    Just curious about how your views accrue on this derivative of your columns.

    • Replies: @JayMan
  6. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “The idea is that there is a suite of behavioral traits that is more prevalent in many Muslim populations which makes them more likely to perpetrate acts of terrorism.” Is there a similar genetic explanation for the kind of terrorism Americans, British, French, NATO have carried out in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan? Or if that is not terrorism, what is it? For Muslims etc. not to be considered terrorists, would they have to use airplanes and tanks?

    • Replies: @JayMan
    , @Oscar
  7. Talha says:

    ‘A Reminder, on T’ he uselessness of the millions upon millions wasted on the TSA program and its counterparts. Three guys with rigged suitcases figured out that crowds waiting in lines to be checked by security are just as vulnerable as a crowd on a plane.

    Welcome to the verge…

  8. JayMan says: • Website

    It’s akin to that, yes.

  9. Jonah says:
    @Jonathan Revusky

    Probably a few terror incidents have been false flag operations. In the distant past. I can’t imagine a scenario where you could pull it off these days. There is simply A LOT of data and video out there available to the general public.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Revusky
  10. JayMan says: • Website

    Is there a similar genetic explanation for the kind of terrorism Americans, British, French, NATO have carried out in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan?

    You know, I hear this a lot, and it’s still just as silly. Military violence is a fact of life for pretty much all societies that have the capability. Indeed, it speaks to the traits of Westerners that allows them to engage in highly organized cooperative violence.

  11. JayMan says: • Website

    Your suggestion might have had more an impact if it included a donation….

  12. JayMan says: • Website

    Your suggestion might have had more of an impact if it was accompanied by a donation…

  13. @Jonah

    Probably a few terror incidents have been false flag operations.

    Oh really? Which ones?

    In the distant past.

    What’s the “distant past” for you?

    I can’t imagine a scenario where you could pull it off these days.

    You can’t imagine, eh? You do realize that objective reality is not at all constrained by your lack of imagination… or do you?

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
  14. JayMan says: • Website

    On an individual level, if a person is genetically predisposed to higher levels of anti-social behavior, are they still fully, morally culpable?

    By that logic is anyone morally culpable of anything? Free will does not exist. People respond (differently) to incentives. Hence deterrents work.

  15. @JayMan

    “Deterrents work.”

    Given that there is no way to quantify ones genetic propensity for antisocial violence, there’s limited ability to prove how effective are deterrents. In all likelihood there’s an enormous sample bias problem. Long prison sentences may just take the rotten apples out of circulation.

    On the other hand, caging or isolating those who demonstrate a propensity for antisocial violence is by definition successful. This argues in favor of very low tolerance for young men who do violent crime. Tigers don’t change their stripes. This means a noticeable bulge in young blacks doing long stretches and emerging as old men.

    Regarding terrorism, the obvious public policy short of “round ’em all up and ship them back” is to institute a policy of rounding up all the extended family of any 1st, 2nd or third generation violent criminal and ship them ALL back, no appeal, no questions asked. Put the onus of keeping their wayward sons in line where it belongs.

    I don’t care why, I just want any vicious dogs quarantined. Or put down. I’ve got spare time, I’ll volunteer to help do it. Oh, and those who return after being kicked out? Involuntary inclusion in medical trials, or training soldiers as moving targets.

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  16. JayMan says: • Website

    Given that there is no way to quantify ones genetic propensity for antisocial violence, there’s limited ability to prove how effective are deterrents. In all likelihood there’s an enormous sample bias problem. Long prison sentences may just take the rotten apples out of circulation.

    Sure there is, at least indirectly. Adjust your punishments and see the effect on crime.

  17. Talha says:

    Tigers don’t change their stripes.

    Not so sure about this…

    I’ve seen plenty of men (from straight-up thug backgrounds – with the requisite tattoos) come out of the system still fairly young (around late thirties) and have been transformed into decent, responsible family men. They are quite the catch in African American circles where there is a dearth of men that fit that profile. I’ve also visited prison to work with some of these youth and they seemed very much on their way to rehabilitation.

    The bias in my situation is that I can only account for African American males having become Muslim in prison as that is my only experience – so I cannot say I qualify as presenting a control sample. I don’t know if people have similar experiences from say a Christian background.

    May God grant you honor in this life and the next.

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
  18. Talha says:

    Regarding terrorism, the obvious public policy…

    …should probably be to recognize we are in way over our heads and walk away. Like Reagan did in Lebanon…the Middle East has to figure out its own future. Our only other move should be securing borders very tight until things normalize.

    Terrorism is extremely cost effective – three to five guys with less than about $5000 probably brought Belgium to a stand still. If Belgium responds in any way, it will cost them millions upon millions no matter what choice they make. Then it will only take another five guys with less than $5000 to repeat the cycle.

    Please note: I am NOT supporting what they did – it is criminal, amoral and nihilistic – but if their demand is ‘stop bombing us (Belgium has ground forces there and has deployed F-16s) or this will happen again’, then the Belgians have to make a serious cost-benefit analysis. Right now, it is just waaaay to cheap to cause waaaay too much havoc. Not to mention that Belgium will slowly become more and more of a police state. Take the Swiss route (fiercely independent, ingeniously decentralized) – they’ve been playing it really well since the 13th century.

    May God bless you and your family.

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
    , @dc.sunsets
  19. @Jonathan Revusky

    Well, name the false flag that killed tens, hundreds or thousands. Name the false flag that got the perps killed. I have an open mind, but from working with some of these types in the past, I have an imagination that says you can’t keep a lid on the origins of such a thing. Dozens of people have to be recruited, sworn to secrecy, willing to cooperate in the dishonorable slaughter of said tens, hundreds or thousands to make a point or produce a desired reaction or effect for…what? Intel types, and there are thousands, would get in on it and you couldn’t keep a lid on it. No way.

    Also, all of the folks involved of course, would have friends, lovers, parents. Somehow, it would get out and of course, it would be the end of whatever fiefdom committed the false flag. Sorry, there is a propensity for whistle blowers and rogues that aren’t exactly on board with such a scheme once let in on it to talk–to someone. At that point it falls apart. You can’t kill everyone, even to conceal the false flag. So which of these was false-flag?

    Aside from those in YOUR imagination?

    • Replies: @Paul C.
  20. @Talha

    No argument, leave the hornets’ nests alone.

    Also, however, keep any hornets in their lands. No invitations whatsoever, and any who overstay their brief welcome get ejected with prejudice, the second time from 5,000 feet.

    Islam is a religion that doesn’t posit permanent coexistence.

    • Replies: @Talha
  21. @Talha

    On the one hand, your experience transcends mine. On the other hand, that you have such experience indicates we begin with very different premises.

    The more anyone cultivates differences from me, the less I wish to be around them. This is natural, and I strongly suggest that the wave of the future will make those differences a matter of life and death. The “We Are The World” Narrative is visibly past. Forced association has filled a reservoir of resentment, and the Leftist double down on it is boiling resentment into rage. The only people entitled to the high living standards seen in North America & Europe are those who built them.

    South Africa is instructive; it took but 10 years to go from the ruling Boers deciding to give up a nuclear weapons program to the ruling ANC not being able to provide reliable electricity in major cities.

  22. @Talha

    Eventually the response to terrorism will be in-grouping. This will eventually result in expulsion of anyone even vaguely foreign.

    You are right. The economics will amplify the emotions. Today’s heterogeneous societies will become very homogeneous. It will not be a peaceful transition; it has never been one.

    “We Are The World” is a Narrative long past its sell-by date.

  23. Talha says:

    Dear dc,

    Islam is a religion that doesn’t posit permanent coexistence.

    I’m just not understanding where these statements come from due to two reasons:
    1) The oldest Christian and Jewish communities have existed in Muslim lands since antiquity – the Copts aren’t in Egypt there because of their martial prowess over the Mamelukes. I will readily admit there were at times oppression (ie. the horrible Jewish massacre in Fez in 1033), but not as a matter of policy. Jews lived in Spain for hundreds of years, they were not expelled by Muslims, but rather the Alhambra Decree of King Ferdinand.
    2) Muslims have well-defined rules for coexistence within our Sunni canon. I can give you clear references from the rulings of medieval Sunni scholars.

    Groups like ISIS are deviating from them – of course, they also think its fine to blow yourself up in a Shia Friday congregation – so no surprise.

    I’m not going to lie and say non-Muslims had no limits to social mobility or could do whatever they wanted, but they had the ability to live side-by-side and apply their own laws within their own communities. And for a non-Muslim woman who owned no land, there was no tax liability at all irrespective of her wealth status.

    May God grant you the best in this world and the next.

    • Agree: Sam Shama
  24. @JayMan

    Agreed. Reinforcement theory works well. Punishing negative actions lowers the probability of them occurring in the future, whereas praising positive ones will increase the chance of positive actions occurring again.

  25. Rehmat says:

    JAYMAN – here is some truth coming from the “horse mouth” you might like to digest.

    Last month, Israel’s minister of science, technology and space, Ofir Akunis, commenting on the Brussels twin terrorist attacks said, it’s biblical G-d’s revenge for the Brussels-based European Union’s antisemite decision to boycott Israeli goods made by Jewish settlers in the occupied West Bank.

    “Many in Europe have preferred to occupy themselves with the folly of condemning Israel, labeling products, and boycotts. In this time, underneath the nose of the continent’s citizens, thousands of extremist Islamic terror cells have grown,” Akunis wrote on Facebook.

    In other words, Akunis is admitting that Brussels bombing was in retaliation for European Union’s boycott of Israeli goods. One may not agree with my deduction – but Israeli minister’s off-hand comments were very revealing about the current schizophrenic political mindset in Tel Aviv.

    Here is my views on the false flag operation.

    Crypto-Jew Murdoch’s CNN has claimed that ISIS took responsibility of the attack. CNN could be right as ISIS is headed by Caliph Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi who was born to a French Jewish couple and received military training from Israeli Mossad.

    On April 22, Jewish propaganda website Politico claimed that according to an ‘anonymous Belgium official’ Salah Abdeslam, was “supposed to have taken part in the bomb attacks that hit Belgium capital on Tuesday.” In other words, Belgium security agency failed to stop Tuesday terrorist attacks while it had the “mastermind” in its custody!

    There are nearly 600,000 Muslims among Belgium’s total population of 11.2 million. But that’s to many Muslims for the Organized Jewry that has turned it into a nation of paranoid.

    In 2012, a Belgian lawmaker Filip DeWinter claimed that Belgium soon would turned into an Islamic State.

    In December 2011, Mossad paid a visit to Belgium city of Liege, killing three people and injuring another 75. The lone gunman identified by police as Nordine Amrani killed himself before arrest. The Zionist press turned Nordine Amrani into: Nordine = Nur deen, a Muslim name – Amrani = Imran, the father of prophet Moses in Holy Qur’an.

    In December 2011, Rabbi Marvin Hier of the Simon Wiesenthal Center had demanded that John Kerry fire his Jewish ambassador to Belgium, Howard Gutman, for blaming Israel for fuelling anti-Semitism in Europe and the Muslim world.

  26. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Read the amazing book called Islam And The Psychology Of The Musulman (Musulman means Muslim) by André Servier. Published in 1924 but still accurate today. It discusses how the harsh Middle Eastern / N. African climate shaped the personality traits of its peoples. Basically, since they had little mineral wealth (in the centuries before oil became valuable) or manufacturing ability, Arabs had to lie and wait to ambush caravans full of spices, gold, textiles, etc. Any captured men were executed; any captured women were kept as sex slaves. (Desert-dwelling warlord Jabba The Hutt and his white slave Leia in Star Wars were based on this.) I forgot what they did to the kids… This predatory mindset has become hard-wired to this day; rape is of course another unfortunate side effect of it. Tons of inbreeding hasn’t helped with the psychological problems either…

    The book is archived online at several places, such as

    • Replies: @Talha
  27. Talha says:

    If I may…

    How does desert environment possibly explain the near universal practice from as far north as the Varangians, Gauls (rendition of chief Brennus’ sack of Rome – ‘Brennus and his Share of Spoils’), the Turkish and Mongol steppe warriors, almost all African tribes (Saharan and Sub-Saharan), Mayans and Aztecs, etc. that they would vanquish the warriors (or enslave them) and enslave their women and children? If the Arabs were the only people to have done it, this may make sense.


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  28. Vovin says:

    When are we going to genotype all of the most dangerous terrorists and see which cognitive genes are disproportionately shared? Aside from the terrorists who’ve died in combat, most should be locked away in jail cells, hence easily trackable.

    • Replies: @JayMan
  29. JayMan says: • Website

    A long time from now, I’d say, given the progress we’re making with other traits.

  30. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Jayman, do you know what happened to misdreavus? He seems to have closed his twitter

    • Replies: @JayMan
  31. Oscar says:

    Terrorism is a _non-state actor_ targeting civilians to influence the behavior of a government.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  32. I am neither qualified nor inclined to dispute your findings regarding Muslims and terrorism. But terrorism aside, do you have data relevant to total number of Muslims killed by the U.S. government vs. total numbers of all nationalities killed by Muslim terrorists since 9/11? Would there be any HBD value to such a study? Also, I wonder if it is possible to study the genetic make up of the United States congress. I know they are racially diverse but perhaps we could know what genetic traits incline a person toward arriving in the House and/or the Senate.

    I won’t be sending money. We’s po folk. But I thank you for your work and congratulate you on the birth of your beautiful daughter.

  33. @Oscar

    “Terrorism is a _non-state actor_ targeting civilians to influence the behavior of a government.”


    It seems to me that state sponsored terrorism is still terrorism. Or is it like Billy Goat Clinton’s oral sex that wasn’t sex?

  34. Sam Shama says:

    Dear Talha,
    you are attempting to introduce light and fresh air in spaces [between the ears] that consider instead, ‘indirect evidence’ of ‘genetic pre-dispostion’ to violence, sine qua non.

    • Replies: @Talha
  35. Talha says:
    @Sam Shama

    Dear Sam,

    I know, but that’s why I try to cite facts for my claims. Though I am surprised at how many people are impervious to facts – maybe it’s just the medium of an anonymous forum, itself.

    I can understand to a degree where that position comes from. If one sides on the side of materialism (which I do not agree with, but accept as a rational proposition), then what choice does one have to explain such things as (observed) human volition? If we are all lumbering fleshy robots, then it is all explained by the wiring – since there is no ghost in the machine.

    While I can readily agree people are born with certain traits (that have a hereditary nature) that may give them proclivities; patience, hotheadedness, lustful, modest, etc. I myself, have experienced way too many things in my four decades on this planet to buy that this is all just programming and nothing but. People change. Case in point; I know a group of African Americans (around 10) that used to live in the Milwaukee area and moved to Chicago. Why? Because they converted to Islam and wanted to learn the religion from traditional scholars; they are actually on their way to becoming solid Hanafi scholars and are studying books I wish I could study in such depth. Almost to a man they have served time in prison for the thuggery generally associated with young Black males. But here they are, raising families and they have such good character that it is impossible to tell they lived any other way until the tattoos give their previous lifestyle away. How does predetermined wiring explain that?

    Or stuff like this:
    “As he burned he never moved a muscle, never uttered a sound, his outward composure in sharp contrast to the wailing people around him.” – Journalist David Halberstam (witness to the protest self-immolation of Buddhist monk Quang Duc)

    Anyway, hope this month of Ramadan sees you and family through in the best of states (we Muslims do not have a monopoly on the spiritual torrents that rain down).

    • Replies: @JayMan
  36. Ulik says:

    Those photos appear to quash the rumour that you’re black.

    You must’ve missed my comments explaining that JayMan and Razib’s totalitarian impulses (censorship, intolerance of free speech and dissent, etc.) are in the genes.

  37. Ulik says:

    Idiots Revusky and Rehmat are free to post their idiocy, but Jay and Razib ban me. So much for the “keeping it high level” excuse. Lol, some population groups and their fragile egos…

  38. JayMan says: • Website

    I myself, have experienced way too many things in my four decades on this planet to buy that this is all just programming and nothing but. People change.

  39. M.G. Miles says: • Website

    Hello JayMan,

    I just got back online (I’ve been off for a while due to an excruciating, never-ending house move), and it seems that both you and HBD Chick have been on hiatus since March? I sure hope all is well for you and your kiddos, and that you’re back to blogging soon!

    Best wishes,

  40. Paul C. says:
    @Jim Christian

    ALL of them are false flags, 9/11 included. If you doubt this, show me video from any terrorist event. You can’t because it’s always confiscated. US Olympian swimmer Ryan Lochte gets caught in a lie because there are 3 cameras at a convenience store contradicting him. There’s at least 86 cameras at the Pentagon but we haven’t been shown any evidence of a plane.

    When you own the MSM, you can get away with a lot. Every war we’ve been in has been based on a false flag. Research it.

  41. @JayMan

    “People respond (differently) to incentives. Hence deterrents work.”
    Just as dogs respond differently to incentives, and differently to deterrents. But they respond. Differently, but they respond.

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