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Adapted from the latest Radio Derb, available exclusively on VDARE.com

George Orwell’s dystopian novel 1984 famously contained the aphorism: “Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.”

Apparently, he was right. It waxes stronger by the day.

This is most particularly true in anything to do with race. The very simplest, plainest facts about race are treated by the guardians of our culture—the media, the schools, the corporations—as radioactive, to be shielded from public view.

Here is a tiny instance, of the kind that is so commonplace, we hardly notice it anymore.

I get a daily delivery of the New York Postpaper edition. Here was a short filler item from last Monday, June 3rd. I’ll read you the item in its entirety, as printed. Headline: Woman, 78, raped. Story:

A creep forced his way into a Queens home Sunday morning and raped a 78-year-old woman, police said.

The sexual assault was reported just after 6 a.m. in a house on 148th Street near 241st Street in the Brookville neighborhood.

The man had broken into the house before attacking, police said.

No arrests have been made, but cops described the suspect as a man in his 30s, about 5-foot-9, weighing around 165 pounds.

The woman was treated at the North Shore University Hospital.

I don’t need to belabor my point here; you know what I’m getting at. Quote from my neighbors re Long Island Railroad gunman Colin Ferguson, as reported in Chapter Six of We Are Doomed: “It must be a black guy. If it was a white guy, they would have told us.”

That quote is from 26 years ago, so there is nothing the least bit new here.(The “creep” was quickly apprehended. In fairness to the New York Post, I should note that the online version of the newspaper—although not, for reasons unfathomable to me, the print version—published his picture. Is he black? Of course he is!)

Ann Coulter noted in her column the other day, the careful sculpting of the past to hide anything that contradicts our rulers’ narrative does sometimes seem to be at well-nigh the level of Chinese suppression of the history of Tiananmen Square.

We’ve been seeing this recently with the case of the Central Park Five. These were the five young black and Latino men who attacked, raped, and left permanently injured a young white woman jogging in the New York City park in 1989.

Netflix is currently running a TV series titled When They See Us, produced by anti-Trump black activist Ava Duvernay.

The guilt of the Central Park Five is not in serious dispute, as Ann and many others have documented. [Netflix’s False Story of the Central Park Five, by Linda Fairstein, WSJ, June 10, 2019]They were convicted by two separate juries and spent years in jail before crazy-liberal 90-year-old District Attorney Robert Morgenthau celebrated his retirement by vacating their convictions. New York City’s communist mayor Bill De Blasio then awarded them forty million dollars from city funds.

Those are the mere facts. The Narrative is that these five young men were randomly arrested and coerced into making false confessions. The current Netflix production follows that Narrative.

So does the entry for it on IMDb, the standard-reference movie database. The heading on that IMDb entry read (I’m sorry for the poor grammar, which is IMDb’s, not mine):

Chronicle the true story of a notorious case of five black teenagers who were convicted of a rape they did not commit.

A bit further down the IMDb entry we read that, quote:

“When They See Us” Shows the Horrors of Injustice.

In the same spirit Wikipedia includes the case in its List of wrongful convictions in the United States.

The false narrative about the Central Park Five is now as thoroughly, firmly established as the ChiComs’ narrative about June 4th, to the slight degree that the ChiComs have a narrative—i.e. that it was trouble stirred up by a tiny group of counter-revolutionary malcontents in the pay of hostile foreign powers.

Watching the 10 o’clock news the other evening on Fox 5 New York I saw the bubble-brained presenters, Steve Lacy and Dari Alexander look straight into the camera and tell me the Central Park Five were “wrongly convicted.” I bet they believe it, too. At the NPC level, which is the level you’re at with local news announcers, the Narrative is fact while facts are heresy.

Linda Fairstein, who headed up New York City’s sex-crimes unit and was lead prosecutor on the Central Park case, is being ruthlessly unpersoned. She has written a couple of dozen books, most of them crime novels based on her own experiences as a prosecutor. Now the mob is calling for bookstores and libraries to remove those books from their shelves, and for Ms. Fairstein’s publisher and agent to disown her.

This particular Narrative, the one about the Central Park Five, is helped along by the fact of its keying in nicely to Trump Derangement Syndrome. Donald Trump was still very much a New York City personality when the assault occurred and in the years up to when the convictions were vacated; and he was vocal for justice to be done on the facts as presented, twice over, in court—facts, remember, that left no doubt about the guilt of the defendants.

When Fidel De Blasio awarded the rapists forty million dollars of city money in 2014, Donald Trump wrote an op-ed for the Daily News calling the settlement “a disgrace.”

He was of course right.

“Who controls the past controls the future.” No, we’re not at China’s level, yet. Linda Fairstein’s book sales might take a dive, and I’d advise her to be careful who she answers the door to; but she’s not being dragged off to have her organs harvested, as routinely happens to dissidents in China.

Our rulers still have a pretty firm grip on the narrative, though. Damn them.

Previous Counter-Narrative Central Park Five Coverage

2010-12-24dl[1]John Derbyshire [email him] writes an incredible amount on all sorts of subjects for all kinds of outlets. (This no longer includes National Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him.) He is the authorof We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism and several other books. He has had two books published by VDARE.com com: FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT (also available in Kindle) and FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT II: ESSAYS 2013.

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  1. Tusk says:

    Netflix exists solely as a propoganda outfit so this is hardly surprising.

    • Agree: Harbinger, HEREDOT, anon19
    • Replies: @Wally
    , @voicum
    , @USA 1943
  2. Biff says:

    Here is some genuine intellectual laziness trying to connect the Central Park Five to the Tiananmen Square non-massacre. And I’m pretty sure the DNA evidence has sorted out the guilty party, leaving the politics to the tabloid writers which is where this piece belongs.

  3. Escher says:

    I am sorely tempted to cancel my Netflix subscription. Their content is anyway skewing more and more to their internal productions, with less and less diversity.

  4. @Escher

    About Netflix, Escher, I don’t know if it’s political for me, but it could be. I was at a friend’s place about 5 years ago, and he nicely said to pick out any movie I could think of for us to watch on Netflix. I’m telling you, I probably thought of 10 movies, and not a single of my favorites was on there. I never joined up because of that reason.

    Was it that my political views somewhat determined the movies I’d wanted to watch and they didn’t agree with Netflix’s? They weren’t documentaries, just entertainment. I don’t know, but they lost any potential business from me that day.

    • Replies: @Escher
    , @kikz
  5. @Biff

    Another one of Godfree’s Comm-ent-tards heard from.

    Biff, China called. They want your permission to harvest your liver, kidneys, and gall bladder, in case you end up in the pokie there for cheating them on your comment-count. Oddly enough, they didn’t mention anything about your heart and brains.

    • Agree: Tusk
  6. Truth says:

    Well now, a gentleman named Matias Reyes did ADMIT to the rape, later.

  7. Truth says:
    @Biff

    Here is some genuine intellectual laziness trying to connect the Central Park Five to the Tiananmen Square non-massacre.

    I don’t know about laziness, more like intellectual malpractice. But if that were an actual charge, Derb would have received a lethal injection years ago…

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
    , @Alden
  8. bomag says:
    @Truth

    Maybe he tells as much truth as you do.

  9. Breaking Bad Remix

    • LOL: Z-man
  10. ‘Chinese suppression of the history of Tiananmen Square.’?

    The ‘history’ they suppress is our bs version of events which, like our bs version of WWII, the Tonkin Gulf, 9/11, WMD and Russiagate, is pure propaganda and unfit for human consumption.

    Anyone interested can read a summary of events here: http://www.unz.com/article/tiananmen-square-1989-revisited/

    • Agree: bluedog
    • Replies: @Tusk
  11. Mr. Anon says:
    @Truth

    Well now, a gentleman named Matias Reyes did ADMIT to the rape, later.

    A number of them admitted to the rape. And were convicted of it.

    Not that the truth matters to a deceitful idiotic swine such as you.

    • Replies: @Truth
  12. Mr. Anon says:
    @Biff

    The tabloid-level commentary is all on your side, nitwit.

    DNA evidence isn’t a magic wand, especially not back then. They were all guilty.

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton
  13. You might want to check out Netflick’s homage to an american Nueremberg trail lawyer. Jewish naturally. I am a great believer in knowing one’s enemy so I try to check out these sort of productions but this one was so vilely semophilic, mendacious. It actually enlisted Alan Dershowotz , the child abuser, to testify to this guy’s character as an apostle to the nations though naturally they didn’t put it .in quite so semetic terms. About 10 minutes in I almost puked and had to shut it down But if you are a hardened Jew watcher try: Persecuting Evil: The Extraordinary World of Ben Ferencz. It is right there in Netflick’s most current lineup

    • Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax
    , @Bukowski
  14. Mr. Anon says:

    Bring this case up with every white mother, every white woman, every white jogger, you know. Make them understand just what the coalition of the woke is trying to do here and what consequences it will have.

    This is OUR Emmett Till case (actually, there are lots of them). Use it.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Mary
    , @Alden
  15. Ron Unz says:

    The false narrative about the Central Park Five is now as thoroughly, firmly established as the ChiComs’ narrative about June 4th, to the slight degree that the ChiComs have a narrative—i.e. that it was trouble stirred up by a tiny group of counter-revolutionary malcontents in the pay of hostile foreign powers.

    Well, from what I remember reading at the time and the Fairstein op-ed in today’s WSJ, I feel pretty sure that the five young men were actually guilty of attacking, beating, and robbing various people in Central Park that day, very likely including that particular jogger. I’m not sure whether they gang-raped her as opposed to gang-sexually-assaulted her. Then again, I suppose it’s possible that I might be wrong and all the Hollywood PC liars correct.

    But on the other hand, I feel much more confident that the famous Tiananmen Square Massacre” was just a Western MSM Hoax. After all, the former Beijing Bureau Chief of the Washington Post publicly admitted that fact in a long 1998 article in the Columbia Journalism Review, and I just can’t see why he would have been lying:

    https://archives.cjr.org/behind_the_news/the_myth_of_tiananmen.php

    The only reason more people aren’t aware is that the MSM has been so embarrassed over the last 20 years, almost all the stories they run suggest otherwise, but not if you read them very carefully.

    So given those particular two examples, I’d have to say that the Chinese MSM is vastly less dishonest than the American MSM…

  16. Tusk says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    5 yuan has been deposited into your bank account.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  17. HonestBl says:

    Ann Coulter wrote a wonderful column last year summarizing the case. Here it is:

    http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2018-07-25.html

    Ava DuVernay is literally an activist producing pure, unadulterated propaganda, and she is backed up by Netflix doing that. This continuous rewriting of american history is really becoming disturbing.

    • Replies: @awry
  18. Truth says:
    @Mr. Anon

    …and a serial rapist named Mathias Reyes admitted to rhe rape later.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  19. Truth says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Yes Grasshopper it is YOUR Emmit Till. And roughly as timely

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  20. vinteuil says:

    …the former Beijing Bureau Chief of the Washington Post publicly admitted that fact in a long 1998 article in the Columbia Journalism Review, and I just can’t see why he would have been lying…

    The substance of the “hoax,” according to your link, is that most, if not all, of the killings took place near, rather than in Tiananmen Square, and most, if not all, of the victims were rebellious workers rather than students.

    These are not completely trivial differences, but the ChiCom regime comes out looking just as bad, both for the killings themselves and for the ongoing suppression of free inquiry into the matter.

    …given those particular two examples, I’d have to say that the Chinese MSM is vastly less dishonest than the American MSM…

    Sir, there is no settling the point of precedency between a louse and a flea. But at least here in the US we’ve got lively alternative media sources to turn to – for the time being, anyway. Is there any Chinese equivalent of the Unz Review?

    • Agree: syonredux
  21. El Dato says:
    @Truth

    And it sounds like that’s the truth.

    This being a problematic case, whether Linda Fairstein proved this or that is just a statement about the evidence available at the time and the court proceedings, not about actual events that objectively occurred.

    Good reading at

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-myth-of-the-central-park-five (published 10.19.14)

    What are the odds that an entirely unrelated rape should occur in the midst of a violent crime spree lasting some forty-five minutes, in a small, sparsely populated area? That a gang who threatened and assaulted four joggers, among others, had nothing to do with a fifth? And yet, Matias Reyes had raped a woman in the park, two nights before. Was it negligent for the police to fail to consider the two crimes in context? At least one detective had a leading role in both cases; the same judge, Thomas Galligan, presided over the trials of Reyes and the Central Park Five. The dots seem eminently connectable, even given the city averages that would have amounted to over 500 murders and a thousand rapes between the arrests of the Five in April and Reyes in August. More pertinent was the loose working assumption—which I share—that certain kinds of guys only do really bad stuff in groups, with the worst driving the action and the weak swept up in the moment, while there are solitary predators who need no incitement beyond what they hear between their own ears.

    In the Central Park trials, forensic evidence was nearly nonexistent. A few hair specimens recovered from two defendants’ clothing were held to be “consistent” with that of the victim. DNA was in its infancy—the first conviction based on the science in the United States had only occurred in 1987, and the first databank in New York wouldn’t be operational until 1996—and larger, cleaner samples than are necessary today were required to identify or disqualify a suspect.

    Thirteen years later, after the boys had served between six and thirteen years in prison, a man named Matias Reyes confessed to the rape, and DNA evidence later established that his was the only semen sample recovered from the scene. Though the brutality of the attack on the Central Park jogger staggered the public imagination, it was a lesser example of his viciousness. He was convicted of raping four women and killing one of them, who was pregnant, while her young children were in the apartment. With some of them, he’d cut them around their eyes, to prevent them from identifying him. He also admitted to sexually assaulting his mother. His lawyer called him “the devil,” after Reyes attacked him during sentencing. A defense psychiatrist concluded that Reyes was not capable of telling the truth.

    All of the Five would have testified, and they couldn’t help but do better than the two who took the stand in 1990. In the Burns’ documentary, The Central Park Five, most of them come across as decent, thoughtful, and genuine, though the film itself is agitprop, one-sided and ham-fisted. The boy who exclaimed that Antron did “the murder” might have explained that he’d referred mistakenly to one of the male victims, knocked unconscious, instead of the as-yet-undiscovered jogger. Maybe the cops who testified then wouldn’t have fared as well, this time around. At least a few jurors would be aware of former detective Louis Scarcella, once considered one of the finest investigators in the city, who put several, since-vindicated men in jail, and is facing lawsuits for coerced witness statements and confessions. And the forensic evidence could well say only that the only scientific certainty is that Matias Reyes committed this crime, as it’s said all along.

    What is the price of the truth? Maybe the Central Park Five deserved 10 times as much money as they got, or 10 cents on the dollar. Trials are inquiries into allegations of wrongdoing, in which two adversaries argue that their side is right, or at least more right. Members of the public decide, in a public forum. No one is happy with every verdict, any more than they’re happy with the results of every election. Unlike elections, trials are not designed as vehicles to resolve broad social issues, and sometimes they break down under the weight of expectations they cannot bear. But they can shed light on those issues, case by case, especially if it’s the same case, reexamined over time. How racist is our city? How broken is our system? What needs fixing, and what shouldn’t be changed? I don’t know. What I do know is that we spent $41 million dollars to avoid asking these questions instead of trying to answer them.

  22. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Biff

    DNA evidence was never exculpatory because the prosecutors acknowledged during the trials that other rapists got away. This woman had her head smashed in and then was gang raped, more than once.

    As Ann Coulter wrote:

    The media proclaim those five rapists innocent based on journalists’ own over-excited reports that the DNA found on the jogger matched that of Reyes — but none of the others!

    Yeah, we knew that. It was always known that semen on the jogger did not match any of the defendants. (“DNA Expert: No Semen Links to Defendants,” The Associated Press, July 14, 1990.)

    Hallmark should have a greeting card: “Guess whose semen wasn’t found anywhere on the rape victim?” (Open card) “I’m so proud of you, son!”

    Prosecutor Elizabeth Lederer expressly reminded the jurors of the missing rapist in her summation to the jury: “Others who were not caught raped her and got away.” Reyes’ confession means nothing more than: Now we know who “got away.”

    DNA wasn’t the evidence that convicted the “Central Park Five.” It’s hard to believe today, but in 1989 DNA was rarely used to convict anyone, so it wouldn’t have been carefully collected by police investigators. DNA identifications had only been invented a few years earlier and were not even permitted in New York courts until six months before the Central Park wilding.

    Instead, this case was solved with old-fashioned police work. After the first 911 calls came in, the police arrested some of the thugs in the park that very night. Then they arrested anyone named by the first detainees.

    For example, one boy picked up in the park told the cops — without prompting — “I know who did the murder. I know who did the murder. I know where he lives and I’ll tell you his name.” (The night of the attack, no one expected the jogger to live.) He named one of the so-called “Central Park Five” convicted of the attack, Antron McCray.

    Of more than three dozen hoodlums brought in for questioning, only 10 were charged with any crimes, and only five of those were charged with the attack on the jogger. All those charged with the jogger’s rape gave detailed, corroborated, videotaped confessions, after full Miranda warnings. Four of the five confessed in the presence of an adult relative.

    • Replies: @Biff
  23. Escher says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Yup. Most of the movies in my “to watch” list cannot be found on Netflix.

  24. YN1F says:

    I cancelled Netflix going on four years ago. Haven’t regretted it one bit. In fact, I rarely use my telavivevision these days at all. Cut the cable. Get a Roku or something to watch apps that offer some of the older, less degenerate and p.c. material. News and weather can very effectively be gotten from the Internet… from alternative sources, I might add.

    • Replies: @kikz
  25. Wally says:
    @Ron Unz

    Off topic, sorry, just saw this, FYI.

    YouTube Bans CODOH* Account : https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12520

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCv_oU-0RfVNPPuUfMwD73Cw/videos

    This account has been terminated due to multiple or severe violations of YouTube’s policy prohibiting hate speech.

    “Truth is hate to those who hate the truth.”

    * Committee for Open Debate on the ‘Holocaust’.

  26. eah says:

    Here is a tiny instance, of the kind that is so commonplace, we hardly notice it anymore.

    It’s more or less the same in most white nations — below is a recent example from DE: a ‘refugee’ from Niger was arrested for the rape of a 9 y/o girl — the German language outlet n-tv.de headlined an item about it “Rechte demonstrieren nach Sexualdelikt” — ‘Rightwingers protest after sex crime’.

    After so long, you can’t really call the entire phenomenon, or even a particular instance of it, “tiny”.

  27. eah says:
    @Ron Unz

    I’m not sure whether they gang-raped her as opposed to gang-sexually-assaulted her.

    What is the difference?

    These were the five young black and Latino men who attacked, raped, and left permanently injured a young white woman jogging in the New York City park in 1989.

    That’s interesting.

    • Replies: @teachem2think
    , @Alden
  28. AceDeuce says:

    Derb is 100% right. Even some “conservatives” have fallen for this BS.

    They were guilty of everything that they were charged with. Trump has never changed his opinion on this, nor should he (and as one of the richest and most powerful men in NYC in 1989, how much inside info did he know about this case on top of the public facts? A lot, that’s how much). Mayor Koch, the NYC mayor at the time, never changed his mind about it. Neither did Giuilani. Neither did Bloomberg.

  29. @Truth

    And the five groid/greasers did ADMIT they all attacked and raped and/or sex assaulted Ms Meili, and left her to die. Two of them led police to the spot where the crime occurred, and the confessions of all were corroborated by details they provided of the crime scene. Their lawyers said their clients convicted themselves by their own statements and no defense was possible. At trial the jury was told there was a sixth, unarrested, suspect. Reyes waited until the statute of limitations had expired before coming forward. He has confessed to raping Ms Meili, not to attacking her. Reyes said he raped Ms Meili alone, not that he alone committed the crime. As the five guilty scumbags never mentioned Reyes, the likely scenario is Reyes observed the attack, then swooped in after the five little turds left the scene. All six groid/greasers are guilty.

    • Replies: @Truth
  30. Biff says:
    @Ron Unz

    Well, from what I remember reading at the time and the Fairstein op-ed in today’s WSJ, I feel pretty sure that the five young men were actually guilty

    I’m assuming that all the information Ron is using for this verdict came from the MSM, which at the time as I remember gave the accused a guilty verdict almost immediately, and long before a trial. I wish I had access to the Fairstein op-Ed, but I don’t have a WSJ subscription, so I can’t comment on that. In any event, I still think the then untrustworthy media jumped to some early conclusions that biased the trial, the public, and the entertainment industry that pumps out distorted versions of history.

    actually guilty of attacking, beating, and robbing various people in Central Park

    This could be true, but I have no way of confirming the positive, and I have never made the claim that the Central Park Five were crime free.

    I know Wikipedia is not a great reliable source but there is this:

    In 2001, convicted serial rapist and murderer Matias Reyes was serving a life sentence in New York state. He had never been identified as a suspect in the Central Park attack on Meili, although he had been at large at the time. Reyes was later convicted of raping another woman in the park two days before his attack on Meili.[2]

    In 2001 Reyes met Wise when he was held at the Auburn Correctional Facility in upstate New York.[2][52] In 2002, Reyes said that on the night of April 19, 1989, he had assaulted and raped the jogger. He was 17 years old at the time and said that he had acted alone.[53][54] Reyes was then working at an East Harlem convenience store on Third Avenue and 102nd Street, and living in a van on the street.[54][55] He provided a detailed account of the attack, details of which were corroborated by other evidence which the police held.[5] The DNA evidence confirmed that he was the sole source of the semen found in and on the victim “to a factor of one in 6,000,000,000 people”.[5] DNA analysis of the strands of hair found in Richardson’s underpants established that the hair did not belong to the victim.[49] In announcing these facts, the DA also said that Meili had been tied up with her T-shirt in a distinctive fashion that Reyes used again on later victims in crimes for which he was convicted.[5]

    • Replies: @jack daniels
  31. Sean says:

    A) Matias Reyes was part of a gang with the five and was the only one who got it up and ejaculated in the victim because was aroused by extreme sexual violence.
    B) Reyes (about to become the most active psychopathic serial rapist and sex murderer at large in New York) was not part of the gang, and just happened on the scene, and after some of the five had assaulted and raped her without leaving semen, Reye raped the woman and inflicted the extreme life threatening injuries she suffered, while obliterating all traces of their semen. He then went on to commit several more rapes and a few murders by himself in the process. [Forensically dubious, and very risky from his point of view because the disturbance and gang were likely to draw police who could be on the way for all he knew. He would also be coming into contact with other men’s semen (a victim once dissuaded from raping her by telling him she had an infection).]

    C) Reles stalked a women who was stupidly alone is what was a very dangerous part of the park, attacked her restrained her raped her and beat her all by himself. By coincidence there was a gang tuning up random passerby in the area that day.t

    A and B are possible, but C seems much more likely. It requires far fewer coincidences. Reyes semen and only his semen was found on the victim and at the scene. The other unknown DNA was a body hair on her underclothing, and quite possibly nothing to do with any assault on her. If the hair’s owner was identified it certainly would not be enough to charge him. , Semen is different because your hairs are like velcro they can be transferred onto other people and then on to third parties and their clothing very easily.

    There is not proof beyond reasonable doubt against the Five , and by the civil standard of balance of probability I think they must be accounted innocent of the rape and attempted murder of the jogger. Their confession to the other beatings are in law too compromised by the false confessions to the rape. Their compensation is excessive in view of them bringing it of themselves by viciously battering eight people in the park just for fun.

    Interestingly the only jury member who voted to acquit the Five at their trial was a gay man. I wonder if his personal experience and the forensic evidence made him doubtful that a gang rape could could spray so little semen around.

  32. awry says:

    This kind of cause celebre is never about the truth, beginning with the Dreyfus case in 19th century France, later with that rapist kike (I don’t remember his name and won’t look it up now) in the US South sometime between the two world wars, who was acquitted by the media of course as “wrongfully accused because antisemites”, or Sacco and Vanzetti, then the Rosenbergs and the other “innocent” commie spies and subversives “persecuted” during the McCarthy era, to the various sainted black martyrs of the last decades “wrongfully convicted” or “shot while holding their hands up” etc. by the evil racist white goyim for doing nothing. It’s about signalling who has power over whom.

  33. awry says:
    @HonestBl

    Isn’t Netflix owned (partially) by Soros?

    • Replies: @HonestBl
  34. Smucker says:
    @Escher

    Cancelled ours last week.

  35. Anonymous [AKA "Ken_L"] says: • Website

    This is such a rational, reasonable post I cannot understand why the author has been banned even from right-wing websites. Total mystery.

  36. Hmm, Robert Morgenthau. Funny how these same names keep popping in all of these things. Can we still say THAT, Derb?

  37. @Anonymous

    Since the Derb is a virulent philo-Semite, and even that’s not enough to keep his Outer Party membership intact, it really just tells you what nauseating cucks the mainstream right are.

    • Agree: MAOWASAYALI
  38. Biff says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Ann knows all!! I get it now..

    As a result of Reyes’s confession, and the DNA evidence that confirmed he was the sole person to rape Meili, District Attorney Robert M. Morgenthau recommended vacating the convictions of the five defendants originally convicted and sentenced to prison.[5] Supporters of the five defendants again claimed that their confessions had been coerced by police. An examination of the inconsistencies between their confessions led the prosecutor to question the veracity of their confessions. Morgenthau’s office wrote:

    A comparison of the statements reveals troubling discrepancies. … The accounts given by the five defendants differed from one another on the specific details of virtually every major aspect of the crime—who initiated the attack, who knocked the victim down, who undressed her, who struck her, who held her, who raped her, what weapons were used in the course of the assault, and when in the sequence of events the attack took place. … In many other respects the defendants’ statements were not corroborated by, consistent with, or explanatory of objective, independent evidence. And some of what they said was simply contrary to established fact.[5]

  39. Mr. Anon says:
    @Truth

    …and a serial rapist named Mathias Reyes admitted to rhe rape later.

    So? He raped her too.

    Idiot.

    • Replies: @vinteuil
    , @Truth
    , @Clyde
  40. D3F1ANT says:

    We ALL know the score…that’s why they’re fighting Trump harder than they’d have fought the NAZIs! Trump is upsetting the apple cart. They fight harder to protect their graft rackets in DC than they ever would to protect Liberty or the Constitution.

  41. Mr. Anon says:
    @Truth

    You are unz.com’s step-n-fetchit – a caricature of a ridiculous bloviating black man.

    It’s a pity that you missed your calling as a minstrel player.

  42. Mr. Anon says:
    @Biff

    She knows more than you. Where did your quote come from? What is the source?

    • Replies: @Biff
  43. kikz says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    could be age related…… it is in my case, as well as a lot of what would be considered ‘Turner Classics’ aren’t available either. mostly just crap.. HBO the same, i snagged it to watch Deadwood/movie, it’s basically a wasteland of crap………………..
    I’ve enjoyed Britbox via amazon prime, but a lot of the stuff one used to access there, one now has to access thru PBS or other pay channel, more money.. one example.. inspector lewis, i’d watched in entirety a yr or so back on britbox, no more… had to pay/PBS to get it.. not happy.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @Alden
  44. vinteuil says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Truth is not an idiot. He is other, much worse things.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Mr. Anon
  45. Jake says:

    I have posted here several times that the hatred of Donald Trump, Trump Derangement Syndrome, began with this case, not the 2016 elections. The entire NYC cast of Leftists, Liberals, Artistes, Serious Journalists, and Jews-known-as-Neocons came around to seeing the whole sordid affair as about racism against the race of gentle and misunderstood Numinous Negroes. They kept painting the picture as one in which Whitey must confess his sins, and very bad Donald Trump kept calling the angelic-looking boys names, saying harsh things that threw gasoline on the fires of racism.

    Marauding Numinous Negroes are sacred to the USA’s Elites. That did not begin with Jews. It began with the original WASP Elites, and it has been a required article of faith for all who have been absorbed into the circle of Yankee WASP Elite. If America is the Land of the Pilgrim’s Pride, meaning a nation founded according to and run by the values and culture of Anglo-Saxon Puritans and closely related groups, then faith in the Numinous Negro, and kulturkampf against all non-WASP whites who fail to bow the knee to what the superior WASP hath erected for the good of the world, is as American as apple pie.

    What the current USA Elites plan is Reconstruction 2.0. The Yank WASP Elites now, as the most prescient men have predicted (since at least Oliver Cromwell) would be the end result of the religiously-stoked and sold economic and ethnic revolutions that produced WASP culture, are owned totally by Jewish bankers who have been the acting CEOs. The WASP Elites of our age plan to make us all, in effect, impoverished, disenfranchised Scots-Irish Confederates who must bow before the Numinous Negroes that they – inherently superior WASP Elites – have installed to rule over us directly.

    And the Jewish part of the globalist WASP cabal, which came to dominate the world via the British Empire, will make certain that you also come to feel like Palestinians in Gaza.

    Hey, I’ve got a great idea: let’s figure out how to have more WASP culture spread by more WASP Elites

  46. Here’s an intelligent commentary on the incident. More intelligent than the dwerb’s tabloid rubbish, and a lot of the comments on this thread. Doesn’t let anyone off the hook. Even the makers of the netflix film.

    https://blackagendareport.com/freedom-rider-central-park-five-and-limits-suffering

    PS It appears tRump derangement syndrome doesnt only apply to those who ‘oppose’ him. I am surprised Unz would publish such baloney. Click bait I guess.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Dave
    , @David In TN
  47. kikz says:
    @YN1F

    weather…. try windy.com it’s a good thing (predictive) hate to hattip dylan, but you really don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows…… and mesmerizing to watch. i usually combine that w/ sat/radar frm a local news site…..keeps us here tornado alley of n. tx frm being blind/dyin from tornadoes
    https://www.windy.com/ enjoy.

  48. John

    The Syosset Diner Robbery……Memorial Day Weekend….1982…..Greatest MASS RAPE of White Women by Negros(Jamaican Legal Immigrants) in US History….They started off the night beating to death a Polish American WW2 Vet in Westbury…..At least 4o White Women came to the Emergency Room that night to get the rape kit test….and an abortion pill…..

    BLAME JFK!!!!….and Teddy….and RFK….

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
    , @Jake
    , @Alden
  49. @Escher

    The Obamas have signed a juicy contract to develop projects for Netflix. Enough said.

  50. jjw says:

    Bernhard Goetz showed us how it’s done. He was robbed and beaten once by a gang of black criminals, who also happened to be teenagers, so he armed himself with a gun and the next time a similar bunch thought they would make a victim of him he shot the punks. Those, at least, won’t be attacking anyone else any time soon.
    I was recently watching an interview in YouTube in which BLM protesters were interviewed. This young black woman said that she was all for a system in which -Blacks have our own communities governed by ourselves, our schools, etc., Whites have their own, Asians have their own-. When the interviewer said, -Oh, you want segregation-, the Black woman said -No, it’s not segregation, it’s “separation” -, and didn’t skip a bit describing what, in reality, is precisely that: segregation. Typical example of Political Correctness and Newspeak.
    Perhaps she’s right. We’ve had much more racial animus and violence since forced integration threw us all together in the same spaces without any education or preparation.
    I don’t remember if it was Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, or Obama, I can’t remember, who said that when he saw a couple of black teenagers on the sidewalk waking in his way he would cross the street. Why?
    Blacks are only 12.5% of the population yet, according to Federal Government numbers (Bureau of Justice Statistics) they commit more than 50% of all violent crimes. But when you cite these statistics (in other words, when you cite reality) you are accused of being racist and being a ‘white supremacist’. Postmodernism in full force: Change the meaning of everything, accuse the victims of being the perpetrators, rewrite history, science, psychology… everything!
    I refuse to communicate in Newspeak. I’ll call it like it is, and whoever doesn’t want to hear what I have to say can avoid it by simply not talking to me. I’m fine with that…

  51. Just a gentle reminder:

    EMIT TILL’S FATHER……

  52. Sean says:

    Two days before the jogger was attacked Reyes had been disturbed in middle of raping a woman in central Park, who been attacked while doing Ti Chi alone in a isolated part of the norther section. Two days! He may have been only 17 years’ old (a year older than the oldest of the Five) at the time but Reyes did not need anyone to help him rape women, the jogger was tied up and gagged with her own T shirt in a way very similar to the Ti Chi woman two days before.

    A detective on the sex crime squad noted the description the Ti Chi lady gave of the man who raped her as a Hispanic male with fresh stitches on his chin, checked local hospitals, and found that one man named Matias Reyes fitted the bill. The detective was reassigned for pointing that out to his colleagues on the jogger case. Anyway they knew about Matias Reyes before he confessed.

    Moreover, the jogger was stabbed five times in the head, which proves that Reyes went to the park with a knife on him–probabally not to carve his name in a tree. Rather a coincidence if he just happened to stumble on a gang rape. Even in Central Park back then I should think rapes were less common than groups of violent teens. Reyes was the outlier in the park that day.

    It was reasonable for the detectives to think that the thrill beatings by a gang were connected to the jogger rape given they happened in roughly same region of the park on the same day, but it would have been even more reasonable to note the way she was tied up and raped was very similar to the rape two days before in the same park and detail Matias Reyes for interrogation. So if the police had avoided certain mistakes, then Reyles would not be have been free to commit a murder not long afterwards. It is unfair that that woman’s family can’t get a million for every year they have to live without her.

  53. @kikz

    Yeah, but (I meant to write this before) the movies that I looked for spanned 4 decades, ’60’s through the ’90’s. After the mid-1990’s it’s very hard to find one in which the PC BS doesn’t come out at some point. One night, I had to try 3 movies to get one that I could stand to watch (DVDs). I didn’t know until I saw the guy that played Bob Newhart’s dentist colleague, and he was YOUNGER, that it was a 1960’s movie.

    See “Tried to watch a movie – here’s 3 reviews in one!”.

    • Replies: @kikz
  54. @awry

    I believe you’re thinking of Leo Frank.

    • Replies: @Charlesz Martel
  55. @Sean

    I tend to agree, C seems most likely. The five other scum bags don’t deserve a single penny (or to be released back into civil society), but’s it likely they didn’t do this particular crime.

  56. vinteuil says:

    Is there a Chinese equivalent to Unz.com that one can check out?

    • Replies: @Hail
  57. @Biff

    If it is so clear to you, why don’t you try supporting your assertions in the comment?

  58. @vinteuil

    This is 2 year-old information, Vinteuil, but I was surprised to find one could go to the American gun-rights sites and I’m pretty sure unz was no problem to read over there. (I was already commenting here at that time, so I would probably remember it that had been an annoyance.)

    What the Chinese Gov. controls is what Chinese people write, especially in Chinese, about China and the Chinese government. There are limits, and, per my people there, nobody would go to your house to take you away, immediately, but you’d be told to cease and desist at some point. As a more direct reply, no, I don’t think there could be any un-tze dot com over there. Youtube, as many may know, did not load at all in China – 2 years back.

    I would think things are even more controlled by now, BTW, Vinteuil, as internet cafes, old hat at this point, went from requiring just one’s 2 RMB per hour to an ID by about 10 years back. Cell phones are “rationed” in that one must show his National-ID card (you know, kind of like our “no it won’t be a national registration #” F D -fuckin’-R – SS #s here) to get the phone or sim card now with a limit on how many. It was NOT like that in 2012.

  59. Jake says:
    @Ron Unz

    “… I’d have to say that the Chinese MSM is vastly less dishonest than the American MSM…”

    I concur. And the problem did not begin under Obama or Clinton. The American mainstream media has been a congenital liar and fable-maker to promote both things that culturally are left of center and things that justify American Empire expanding to every corner of the globe since at least The Spanish-American War.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  60. @Jake

    Irish-Catholics like the Kennedy’s have done alright; as have the Italian-Americans. Somehow, these groups have managed to hold their own.

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
    , @obwandiyag
  61. John

    Looks like Suren Arakelov….Arakelov Theory……spent some time in a notorious Soviet Psych Hospital for some frontal lobe trimming……..These days , Suren is only capable of stocking shelves in a grocery store somewhere in Moscow(High functioning Downs Syndrome Work)…In 2019…Suren Arakelov is not even capable of understanding the Mathematical Framework that he created…a framework that could…will….resolve many of the big open problems in number theory……

    Did something very similar happen to Chaucer?

  62. @War for Blair Mountain

    WAR

    That crime inspired the famous “Make my day” line in SUDDEN IMPACT when Clint Eastwood walks into the restaurant robbery and the sole surviving black takes a hostage.

    The film was released in 1983.

    People forget what America was like BEFORE Clinton signed the Three Strikes Law. Of course it has gotten ridiculous now and people are going to prison for the rest of their life for shoplifting but in the eighties when jail was a revolving door and drugs were accessible like candy it seemed as if crime was crazy.

    Also, and I don’t know why, police response time was much shorter. These days, police get to the scene of a crime within 5 minutes. Back then, it was much longer.

    • Replies: @peterike
    , @Feryl
    , @Alden
  63. Jake says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    Makes sense, all right.

    Because JFK founded Abolitionism and wrote The Emancipation Proclamation (both of which WASP Elites despised), and JFK created and ran Reconstruction (which Yank WASP Elites called the worst crime in the nation’s history), and JFK founded the NAACP (with no rich WASPs involved, and no history of rich WASPs supporting with donations), and JFK founded the ACLU (with no powerful WASP lawyers or WASP law school professors involved), etc.

    The 2 groups of people that hated and feared JFK the most, by far, were the same 2 groups that most hated and feared Joe Kennedy: WASP Elites and Jews.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
    , @Alden
  64. @Biff

    “Here is some genuine intellectual laziness ”

    And we all appreciate you r self awareness.

  65. @Mr. Anon

    I think he plays a 5 gallon bucket under the elevated trains in dt Chicago.

    • Replies: @Truth
  66. Anonymous [AKA "afafd"] says:
    @Gracchus Babeuf

    There’s nothing intelligent about that rubbish article–more leftist bullshit. By the way, go f yourself, troll scum.

  67. Sean says:
    @Biff

    An examination of the inconsistencies between their confessions led the prosecutor to question the veracity of their confessions.

    Morgenthau was just trying to find a way the convictions were in conflict with legal principles, but they obviously were not. Confessions failing to completely match does not constitute evidence they were essentially false, and the Five pled not guilty so the confessions were repudiated by them by the time they got to court and their lawyers had pointed out inconsistencies at their original trial and the court did not accept the defence argument. They were granted the right to a new trial and Morganthau declined to bring a prosecution he could not possibly have won due to the presence of only Reyes’s semen in the victim.

  68. @Jake

    Jews and Irish-Catholics like the Kennedy’s cooperated in the Democratic Machine.

    • Replies: @Alden
  69. @jjw

    Jesse Jackson, JJW. Great comment, and Bernie Goetz is near-to a hero of mine. Hey man, nice shot(s)!

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  70. @Achmed E. Newman

    “You seem to be doing alright….Here’s another”

  71. Dave says:
    @Gracchus Babeuf

    Doesn’t let anyone off the hook ?
    The opinion piece you linked to is black nationalist garbage through and through. The writer denies the boys had anything to do with the assault.
    I lived in NYC at the time and let me tell you what the sainted black boys alibi was… they were too busy assaulting and robbing other white people in other sections of the park to have been responsible for the rape.
    Got that. Those poor, innocent boys were too busy stomping other white people to have been involved in the attack on the woman. They admitted to the other assaults, and none of their supporters denied the other assaults took place.
    Nice bunch of kids.

    • Replies: @Truth
  72. Truth says:
    @Bombercommand

    Well it was 30 years ago. I’d get over it if I was you.

  73. @Ron Unz

    I’m sure all these people are actors, still promoting the flase flag:

    Do any other countries besides the US have negative history? And if they do, is it only because of US meddling? Meaning absent the evil empire all other countries would be utopias?

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Half-Jap
  74. Truth says:
    @Sean

    , and after some of the five had assaulted and raped her without leaving semen,

    Well that’s quite a trick for 14 year-olds.

  75. Truth says:
    @Mr. Anon

    So you were there and watched? Why didn’t you just come forward and testify 30 years ago?!

  76. Truth says:
    @Mr. Anon

    It’s a pity that you missed your calling as a minstrel player.

    Working as your understudy for 10 years has been valuable.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  77. Truth says:
    @vinteuil

    He is other, much worse things.

    Yes. One being a heterosexual man, it’s getting difficult nowadays. I envy you guys sometimes.

    • Replies: @Thomm
    , @Rich
    , @vinteuil
  78. Ragno says:

    Is there any Chinese equivalent of the Unz Review?

    Much more importantly…..at the rate we’re going – will there be any American equivalent of the Unz Review in another year or two?

    I only wish I were engaging in alarmism.

  79. @jjw

    You seem to be doing alright……………………Here’s another!

  80. Truth says:
    @Dave

    Did they actually say “white” people?

    Because if they were blacks, Hispanics they were robbing and assaulting, you can believe their story and be a fan!

  81. Truth says:
    @Ron Unz

    Somebody here some time ago wrote that the Tiananmen Square riots were over African students coming to China and getting laid; I am not making this up!

    “Hey Chan, what are we going to do about Obuntu porking your cousin?

    “I know, Lee, let’s go lie under a tank…”

    Scary thing was that Sailer was noncommittal in his response (you know I love you Steve, but come on).

    • Replies: @syonredux
    , @Alden
  82. Anonymous [AKA "John Beargrass"] says:

    Should have just kilt all of those animals. Feral one and all.

    • Replies: @Alden
  83. I’m impressed that all five of those thugs are still alive.

  84. @Ron Unz

    So, according to your reference, the Chinese army massacred hundreds of people in downtown Beijing — just not in Tienanmen Square itself, though maybe there too but the journalists on hand couldn’t prove it.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  85. @eah

    The difference is that a sexual assault is not necessarily a rape. That is why they are distinguished in law as well. For example,

    Criminal sexual contact and sexual battery that do not involve penetration usually are less serious crimes and subject an accused to lighter penalties than rape or criminal sexual penetration. But criminal sexual contact that results in personal injury or is committed with a deadly weapon or by more than one person normally is a felony. Criminal sexual contact without a weapon that involves only force or coercion, however, can be a misdemeanor. An offender convicted of a misdemeanor can be sentenced to up to one year in a jail but is not required to serve time in prison.”

    If I was your Typical Registered Democrat, I would much rather be charged with sexual assault than with rape — depending on the jurisdiction, statutory definitions, and statutes involved, of course — but then I am not a Registered Democrat

    • Replies: @eah
    , @Alden
  86. Rurik says:

    Chronicle the true story of a notorious case of five black teenagers who were convicted of a rape they did not commit.

    Just like the much celebrated Hurricane Carter movie with Denzel Washington, that blamed ‘racist’ cops (are their any other kind?) for railroading yet another innocent black man. (When everyone knows the homicidal orc murdered those White people in a black racist-fueled rage).

    Or perhaps, even more charming, the Law and Order series where they produce a show about the Wichita Massacre, where two racist orcs tortured and executed five young White people, but in the show, they reverse the races of the perps.

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0629648/trivia

    As much as the Carter and the Carr brothers must have hated White people with a murderous savagery, it’s not even close to the genocidal, netherworld sadism that Jewish supremacists harbor for those whom they envy.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  87. @Rurik

    RURIK

    Why would Jews envy whites? I’m not Jewish myself, but it would seem that generally Jews have a high median IQ and are less likely to be poor than other whites.

    What would the source of their jealousy be? Looks? Yeah I guess that could be possible.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  88. peterike says:
    @jeff stryker

    People forget what America was like BEFORE Clinton signed the Three Strikes Law. Of course it has gotten ridiculous now and people are going to prison for the rest of their life for shoplifting

    This IS ridiculous. If you’ve been arrested for shop lifting twice and convicted twice, the third time you should just be executed. You had your chance. Society has no need of recidivist criminals. Imprisonment for life is an idiotic idea.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
    , @Thomm
  89. Ron Unz says:
    @International Jew

    So, according to your reference, the Chinese army massacred hundreds of people in downtown Beijing — just not in Tienanmen Square itself, though maybe there too but the journalists on hand couldn’t prove it.

    Well, nobody denies that large numbers of people died in Beijing during the violent riots that day, with the fatalities including many soldiers, killed by the rioters. For example, if you look at the CJR article, the PRC government put the deaths at over 300, which sounds pretty reasonable. But nobody was killed in Tienanmen Square and the students all left peacefully, so for the Western MSM to still call it the “Tienanmen Square Massacre” is pretty ridiculous. In fact, a Wikileaks dump cconfirmed that the Western diplomats later reported they saw no sign of any “massacre” there.

    Based on all available evidence, the Western MSM was entirely wrong and the Chinese government claims entirely correct (e.g. the 300 deaths).

    The 30th anniversary was just a few days ago, and noticed about 10 big articles and columns in my NYT and WSJ, several of which were on the front pages. One small NYT piece on the actual anniversary was buried deep inside and admitted that all the students had left the Square peacefully that day. But anyone casually reading the other 9-odd articles, much longer and more prominently featured would have been 100% sure that the students were indeed massacred in the Square, and a couple of the pieces explicitly said so.

    The bottom line is that the NYT account of Tienanmen is at least as dishonest and one-sided as the (current) NYT coverage of the Central Park Rapists, and quite possibly much more so.

    • Replies: @International Jew
  90. @Jake

    ‘“… I’d have to say that the Chinese MSM is vastly less dishonest than the American MSM…”’

    I’d say it’s gotten to be about a tie — which is oppressive enough, thank you.

  91. Anonymous[417] • Disclaimer says:
    @Biff

    I haven’t read the original court documents, but what has been reported in the media is:

    -The guy who’s DNA was in her confessed to being the sole perpetrator
    -The stories each defendant gave were inconsistent with each other
    -None of the other victims of their alleged assaults in the Park that night could identify them (the jogger obviously couldn’t as she had no memory of the attack)

    On the other hand, they all admitted to participating in the assault to police, and all denied committing the rape (which imo goes against the narrative that the confessions were totally coerced). But are they guilty beyond a reasonable doubt? I’d say no. There’s a lot of ambiguity here and it should go in their favor. On the flip side many men are sent to prison for similarly weak evidence. These guys became a pet cause because of the Trump “Bring back the death penalty” ad, nothing more.

    Derb is very skeptical of prosecutors and judges when he feels some vague affinity towards the accused (e.g., alt-right losers, middle-aged white people accused of pedophilia); he should consider applying that skepticism equally, without considering the skin color of those involved.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
    , @Dave Pinsen
    , @eah
  92. Well, I don’t what will transpire, but:

    * I don’t think that vast majority of black race can coexist with any other race

    * I don’t think that a very great, but not vast, majority of Muslims can coexist with others

    * as for Hindus, I’m not sure….

  93. @Bardon Kaldian

    BARDON

    I lived in Muslim countries for years and never had a problem. Dubai was quite pleasant compared to Phoenix.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    , @Alden
  94. Precious says:
    @jjw

    This young black woman said that she was all for a system in which -Blacks have our own communities governed by ourselves, our schools, etc., Whites have their own, Asians have their own-. When the interviewer said, -Oh, you want segregation-, the Black woman said -No, it’s not segregation, it’s “separation” -, and didn’t skip a bit describing what, in reality, is precisely that: segregation.

    It was quite clear watching a couple of the Central Park Five that they are truly outraged that they were punished for the rape. As far as they are concerned, even if they attacked the jogger, the rape was just something that someone else did and the very idea that they could be somehow responsible under the concept of accessory or accomplice is the height of lunacy.

    We white people came up with these concepts of the law to help deter greater crimes, but just because we like them doesn’t mean everyone likes them. The problem with the Central Park Five wasn’t the DNA, it wasn’t the media, it wasn’t the law, it wasn’t the confessions, and it wasn’t the trial. The problem is that the Central Park Five were living in the wrong country.

  95. @peterike

    PETERIKE

    In what Western country does this happen?

  96. Rurik says:
    @jeff stryker

    Why would Jews envy whites?

    [MORE]

    ad infinitum…

    Please put under a ‘More’ button if I’m taking too many liberties with the image posting option.

    • Agree: Saggy
    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  97. @Ron Unz

    From here, 6000 miles away, the precise geography of that massacre seems secondary. Same as, if those thugs had beaten Trisha Meili on the steps of the Metropolitan Museum of Art, rather than in Central Park proper, no one would make a big deal about the nomenclature.

  98. @Rurik

    RURIK

    Deal with facts…

    The fact is that a great many rural whites are SO POOR that some (Not all by any means) Jews actually feel pity for them due to their poverty, like Sanders.

    Jews definitely don’t envy the income of whites. I’m quite sure your average Jew in NYC or Miami would not wish to trade places with poor rural whites or the dwindling white urban underclass in terms of income.

    How many Jews want to move to the small towns of rural whites or post-industrial graveyards? If Jews admire a population center, they move there. Like Rome. Or Spain at one point.

    The life of your average Jew is pleasant. Nice suburb, police are polite and deferential, nice schools.

    You yourself have pointed out (And I can agree because of my own experiences as a lower middle class white) the experiences of many urban non-Jewish whites are not nearly as pleasant.

    As for inventions, I doubt Jews care and more than most whites care that Freud was a Jew or Einstein. How many whites are jealous of that?

  99. @Jake

    From my perspective I know you are right about two claims you make in this comment:

    1) I always wondered how Trump, a hip glamorous celebrity womanizer of the type leftists and blacks typically admire, got the “racist” label until I read in your comments about his outspoken public reaction to the hideous criminal conduct of “The Central Park Five’ at which point I fully understood.

    2) I know from reading history that 18th or 19th century WASPS in England assigned to blacks in Africa the image of “the noble savage” akin to your understandingly mocking term “Numinous Negroes”, but those WASPS were trying to persuade where you are ridiculing both the hypocrites of the left and the disgustingly disproportionate rate of violent black criminality which we are supposed to leave unmentioned for fear of being labeled “racist”.

    And what all this brings to the fore is the need for blacks to avoid showing as racist. Blacks do their own people a disservice by attacking whites who speak the truth about hideous criminality by blacks as Trump did in showing courageous leadership back when this uncivilized conduct was in the news. Most victims of violent black criminality are black so when blacks attack whites who call for drastic measures to reduce violent black crime all those black complainers are doing is getting more blacks killed by blacks.

    And specifically to this current controversy that the financial windfall to the CP5 exonerates them, THE NOI RESEARCH GROUP in advocating honor to these perpetrators works against the interests of black people and hurts its own credibility with white people.

    NOIRG by their scholarly publications Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews is our greatest hope to free blacks from being manipulated by Jews to black destruction in the role Jews have been using them as golem against whites. Please pick prudent positions, Gentlemen, to enhance your honor and thereby credibility instead of advocating for the guilty just because they are black in a case where the victim wasn’t.

    • Replies: @jack daniels
  100. SSDD.

    If you look like food, you’ll be eaten.

    If you want to insure that someone who attacks you with lethal violence receives justice, be equipped and prepared to deliver it “at point of sale.” For decades, those who go alone into places that might be populated by parasite/predators just volunteer to be victimized.

    All of this is nothing more than politicians paying off connected law firms with contingencies from huge settlements. If you look, I’d bet big $ here and now that one or more of the following apply:
    A. Law Firm getting fees is owned by politician.
    B. Law Firm getting fees has politician’s kid(s) or other family members as employees/partners.
    C. Law Firm’s partners are major campaign contributors to said politician.
    D. Law Firm will (ahem) soon offer nice corner office to politician or politician’s wife/kids/etc.

    Follow the loot. It’s just more corruption in America, a place that is now defined by corruption.

  101. HonestBl says:
    @awry

    I am not really into the jewish conspiracy stuff, but what I can definitely say is that Netflix used to be a very neutral source of entertainment. However, it has seriously started to bend to the left lately. Every new TV show is now an intersectional buffet.

  102. Mr. Grey says:

    Netflix has become the #metoo network, pushing racialist fantasies. It’s not just this one on the Central Park 5, all their movies and other series like ‘Black Summer’ push the idea of magic POC and evil wypipo.

  103. @Sean

    “Interestingly the only jury member who voted to acquit the Five at their trial was a gay man.”

    There were two, split trials in 1990 of the five rapists who were prosecuted. They were all convicted. Thus, no juror voted to acquit.

    “There is not proof beyond reasonable doubt against the Five , and by the civil standard of balance of probability I think they must be accounted innocent of the rape and attempted murder of the jogger.”

    They were all proven guilty, beyond a reasonable doubt. Why do you cite a “civil standard”? And you didn’t even get that right. It’s “a preponderance of the evidence.” In any event, the civil standard is irrelevant to a criminal trial.

    Are you mischievously seeking to confuse others, or are you utterly confused?

    • Agree: Ron Unz, David In TN
    • Replies: @obwandiyag
    , @Sean
  104. @jeff stryker

    Yeah, in their own countries. But not in Kopenhagen, London, Stuttgart, Marseilles, Vienna, ….

  105. @Biff

    Why is it crucial how many people raped the jogger? Maybe only one guy raped her and the others merely enjoyed watching and hitting and kicking and tormenting her. Can someone tell me why it matters how many of the kids actually ejaculated in her vagina?

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Feryl
  106. @Ron Unz

    Ron,

    The tendency for the MSM to report “fake news” isn’t so much a wilful falsification as the result of belief trumping empiricism, the progressive mind-set always seeming to only see what they believe. I had personal confirmation of this recently when someone was certain I did something years ago. The lady’s belief was very strong, and it took a bit of effort to finally get her to realise she “misremembered”.

    An earlier case involving a different individual over a bottle of wine had a similar characeristic – said individual was adamant I and nephew drank her bottle of wine. She was absoluely certain. Except the bottle of wine in question was where she left it, on the passenger seat of here automobile.

    So where did these fake events originate? Extrapolate to society in general and we have the phenomena of fake news etc. It’s most conspicuous manifestation is the “Impeach Trump” meme, where the Democrats are convinced Trump won the election illegally. Again, why do they believe that? What empirical fact caused them to “think” that?

    How many conflicts and wars were caused by “misbelief” beggars the imagination.

  107. @HonestBl

    There’s no need to talk about conspiracies. The willingness of Jewish content-creators to villify and replace traditional middle-American mores with their “New Normal” could not be more explicit.

  108. @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree

    I don’t know what the NOI really thinks about the Central Park Five but it is smart politics for them to take the side of the accused, who are coming into a ton of money. Maybe NOI will get some of it, to help them pay the legal expenses induced by fighting off the ADL. Don’t be a fool when it comes to real-life politics. NOI has done more than its share of calling on blacks to take responsibility and live by sound rules.

  109. @jeff stryker

    Neither group is American and all of them should be deported. They have worked to destroy the nation the Founders left to their posterity.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @jeff stryker
  110. You bozos are just pathetic ignorant loser tools of the mass media. You’ll believe anything.

    Joan Didion has forgotten more than this tool “writing” this “article” will ever know.

    The first lesson is that there is no “lesson” to be learned. And idiots like you always need a “lesson” because you are puerile.

    You won’t be able to read this. Too long. Too many big words.

    http://innocenceproject.olemiss.edu/assets/Didion-Sentimental-Journeys.pdf

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Alden
    , @Father O'Hara
  111. Amanda says:

    Black Student Activists Demand Columbia Fire Lecturer Who Prosecuted ‘Central Park Five’

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-12/black-student-activists-demand-columbia-fire-lecturer-who-prosecuted-central-park

    It looks like Harvard University isn’t the only Ivy League school where student activists believe that working in the criminal justice system is grounds for exclusion from campus life.

    Less than a month after Harvard removed Ronald Sullivan as faculty dean of Winthrop House – for representing disgraced producer Harvey Weinstein in his criminal trial – Columbia University’s black student activists are trying to remove another law faculty member for prosecuting defendants

  112. Thomm says:
    @peterike

    If you’ve been arrested for shop lifting twice and convicted twice, the third time you should just be executed.

    I could use this sentence to remind everyone how if WN wiggers (and their female genetic counterparts, the fat bluehaired feminists) were given land on which to create their own country, it would be worse than Haiti or Somalia.

    But it is easier to point out how one of the leading lights of modern White Trashionalism, Kevin Crawford Kraft, gets arrested just about every 30-60 days (except when he is incarcerated).

    Look at his mugshots :

    http://mugshotssantacruz.com/search/?last_name=KRAFT&first_name=KEVIN&#prof

    Peterike’s Law would eliminate the few champions of his own ideology that exist.

  113. Thomm says:
    @Truth

    Yes. One being a heterosexual man, it’s getting difficult nowadays. I envy you guys sometimes.

    Never envy these WN faggots. They spend their days wearing gimp suits and staying in metal cages. They are truly the rejects of nature.

    There is a reason that genetic wastematter concentrates into those who are then made homosexual by nature. This is to ensure that the wastematter is efficiently expunged from the gene pool.

    About 40% of WNs are homosexuals. Matt Forney and Roosh have done yeoman work in exposing this reality, and even Heartiste conceded that the movement was weighed down by the presence of faggots.

    But even the ‘heterosexual’ ones are wastematter.

  114. Truth says:
    @syonredux

    (Oh great. Another genius who believed that someone laid under a tank because someone else was getting laid…)

    https://www.thoughtco.com/root-of-the-tiananmen-square-protests-688411

    https://www.thoughtco.com/the-tiananmen-square-massacre-195216

    Dude, for cryin’ out loud this happened in a country where people are getting snatched out of bed by the army for speaking too loud.

    Take a little advice from me and get your mind off Dikimbe’s cack.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  115. AceDeuce says:
    @Truth

    Yes, genius. He raped her TOO. Only he ejaculated, leaving DNA,

    God, you c olored boys are dense.

    • Replies: @Truth
  116. Z-man says:

    The thing that gets me is the liberal/minority womem elite like that fat cow on the CBS Morning News Gayle King (Oprah’s girlfriend) who know nothing about this case are defending these ‘niglets’! ‘Blood iz thikker dan mud, homie’.

    • Agree: AceDeuce
  117. @Thomm

    were given land on which to create their own country, it would be worse than Haiti or Somalia.

    But would it be worse than India? Thumm, you’re a road pooper who fled there, why don’t you tell us?

    • Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax
  118. @Truth

    Take a little advice from me and get your mind off Dikimbe’s cack.

    Troof, you have them mixed up. Syon is the “cut-and-paste 10,000 words at a time from wikipedia” guy that used to call everyone “dear boy”. Whiskey is the guy obsessed with white wimminz not doing the deed with him.

    • LOL: Truth
    • Replies: @Truth
  119. Anon[324] • Disclaimer says:
    @Chris Mallory

    We certainly are American. I would be willing to bet that my family has done more to build this nation than you ever have or will.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Chris Mallory
  120. “No, we’re not at China’s level, yet … she’s not being dragged off to have her organs harvested, as routinely happens to dissidents in China.” Derbyshire, have you ever told your Chinese family about China? Do you know that behaviours are passed down genetically?

    Derbyshire, don’t worry about censorship in America. We will win the censorship war without you. Since your days are numbered, you need to focus on an issue with which you have personal experience. Here is an interesting article about illegal alien Asian females (mostly Chinese) who are happy to work as prostitutes in America. https://vdare.com/posts/sex-trafficking-does-not-exist-it-s-just-alien-smuggling

    WOW!!! I’ve read that Asians, especially the Chinese have higher IQs than Westerners. I’ve read about the industriousness of the Chinese. I also know that here is a shortage of women in China because of their quaint practice of aborting female fetuses. Chinese males need for their Chinese females to remain in China. Chinese males need the special skills of these Chinese females. We have enough American women willing to do the work that these Chinese females want to do.

    This is where you come in. We need you to start pressuring the American government to deport these Asian females. They are illegals and don’t belong in the USA. Your Chinese wife and daughter need to go to China and explain to Chinese women that they are not needed or wanted in America. You and your Chinese family have to tell Chinese women that they should use their vaunted intellectual prowess to help China improve. Don’t forget to tell them that you mean the intellect in their minds, not the prowess of their poontang.

    • Replies: @Alden
  121. Rich says:

    Thanks, Derb. I’ve been telling all the young kids at work the real story, trying to stem the tide. Luckily, the young White men I work with have had plenty of contact with Negroes and know the truth, no amount of propaganda is going to change their opinion. It’s Whitey ensconced the suburbs who tries, wants, to believe this nonsense, but even she is learning the truth, what with the welfare Negroes being imported out to the formerly lily White America. The only thing it takes to wake up Whitey, is more contact with Negroes. Maybe we should thank Obama for doing this?

  122. @Truth

    Good to hear you say. So I assume since it’s all in the past, we can now also get over Emmet Till, all dem lynchings, and even de turrrble trrrrble slabery itself?

    After all, it WAS over 150 years ago. I’d get over it if I was you.

    Great! Nous sommes d’accord! Duty Now, For The Future!

    • Replies: @Truth
  123. Anon[324] • Disclaimer says:
    @obwandiyag

    Brother Obwandiyag,

    I support the Innocence Project but I don’t care what Joan Didion has to say…big words, small words it doesn’t matter.
    What matters is whether they did the deed or not. It matters less why if they did.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
  124. @Nicholas Stix

    Huh?

    I think you’re trying to mischievously confuse others.

  125. @Truth

    Is there anything, anything at all, about the term “gang rape” which suggests it is committed by just one person?

    • Replies: @Truth
  126. Anon[414] • Disclaimer says:

    This is one of the reasons why I cancelled my Netflix subscription. All their in-house series are pure trash, with weak to non-existent plot lines, gratuitous sex, violence, unfunny lines and foul language. HBO started the cable industry down the line of degeneracy, now it’s long passed the point of no return. At least HBO shows started out with some plot lines, now all of these shows are devoid of any real plot, humor or creativity, it’s just all about sex, violence and liberal ideology.

    Liberals are brain dead and morally bankrupt. This is why they can produce a show with outright lies like this and not even the least bit ashamed. These people are completely devoid of conscience. The victimhood narrative excuses any and all crime committed by blacks. They are born victims. Their real victims are just shit out of luck.

    The Jew-negro-homo trifecta are the bane of the world’s existence.

  127. Daniel H says:
    @vinteuil

    >>>but the ChiCom regime comes out looking just as bad, both for the killings themselves and for the ongoing suppression of free inquiry into the matter.

    At this point we should stop referring the the Chinese regime as Communist. They don’t give a damn about Marx or Lenin, much the same way the Democrats in this country don’t give a damn about the US Constitution.

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @RadicalCenter
  128. crimson2 says:

    The guilt of the Central Park Five is not in serious dispute

    lol at you dipshit white supremacists, always talking about the importance of genetics and DNA–except when it exonerates the people who you think should be guilty. Is it any wonder that we don’t give a fuck what you think about crime? Black people are always guilty to you–even if there is no evidence to support the charge.

    And then you argue that James Fields is innocent when his crimes are on video.

    • Replies: @Precious
  129. Daniel H says:
    @Ron Unz

    The Tiananmen square “massacre” was the major impetus for granting immigration residency status to every Chinese studying at an American university in 1993. Every, single, one was granted residency. Over 1 million Chinese qualified.

    Migration activists will use any disturbance, anywhere in the world as further pretext for demolishing our laws and borders.

    • Replies: @Alden
  130. On the subject of the IMBD page for this film, it has an aggregate rating of 9.1, which is indicative of lots of shill reviews rating it 9-10. Any film or series with an aggregate rating of over about 8.5 is usually pumped up by shills, many registering for their first review.

  131. @Truth

    Truth, old thing, just tell the truth: you really wish you could convince anyone here that you’re black. It ain’t working, kiddo.

    • Replies: @Truth
  132. AceDeuce says:
    @jack daniels

    One of the CP Scumbag Rapers (Korey Wise) is a member of NOI offshoot 5% Nation. His homies got word to Reyes that he better testify that he was alone when he raped the jogger.

    Anyone who wants a real account. Look up the Armstrong Report.

    Oh, hell. I’ll get the link. Here it is:

    https://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/Armstrong.pdf

  133. MarkU says:

    Why the completely unconnected sideswipe at the Chinese with the Tiananmen square reference and the seemingly unlikely accusation that the Chinese government routinely harvests the organs of dissidents.

    In respect of the Tiananmen square episode, it has to be said that there is an alternative narrative.

    – The sit-in on Tienanmen Square was not that of the Chinese among themselves, but an attempted coup d’état by partisans of ex-Premier Minister Zhao Ziyang.
    – Dozens of soldiers were lynched or burned alive on the Square by « peaceful demonstrators », and hundreds of military vehicles were destroyed, before any intervention by Den Xiaoping’s soldiers was implemented against them.
    – The US specialists of the « colour revolutions », including Gene Sharp, were present on the Square to organise Zhao Ziyang’s men.

    One of the most important lessons I have learned over the years is that most people only engage their critical faculties when they are told something disagreeable. Understandable of course, why would anyone put in the hours needed to critically examine a narrative which they were indifferent to or even approved of?

    Most of you will have noticed that the Media are a bunch of lying cocksuckers, peddlers of carefully orchestrated bullshit. I expect that most of you started noticing that fact round about the time that they started turning their guns on you and yours. I put it to you that you should at least consider the possibility that they were always lying cocksuckers, its just that you hadn’t really noticed before.

    So would the US attempt ‘regime change’ in another nation? would they spin a completely one sided account of events? Would the media simply spew whatever their owners told them to? You know the answer to all those questions is a resounding yes.

    So which narrative is correct? I can’t say with any certainty, I don’t really care that much one way or another. I was just using it to illustrate a point. I thought Steve Sailor was just a tad more sceptical than that is all.

    The quote by the way was from this…

    https://www.voltairenet.org/article206695.html

    I can’t say I always agree with the guy but his stuff makes interesting reading.

  134. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Biff

    The rest of Ann’s column, which includes quotes from the “Central Park Five” themselves:

    [MORE]

    Recall that none of them — including the police — could be sure the jogger wouldn’t emerge from her coma and be able to identify her attackers. (She emerged, but blocked all memory of the attack.) All five confessed to assisting the attack on the jogger, but none to raping her themselves. That’s also enough for a rape conviction.

    In Antron McCray’s 34-minute videotaped statement, for example, he said:

    “Everybody started hitting her and stuff. She was on the ground, everybody stompin’ and everything. … I grabbed one arm, some other kid grabbed one arm and we grabbed her legs and stuff. Then we all took turns getting on her, getting on top of her. … I just like, my penis wasn’t in her. I didn’t do nothing to her … I was just doing it so everybody … Everybody would just like, would know I did it.”

    There was other incriminating evidence, all of which is being ignored by the media and PBS documentarians.

    Melody Jackson, whose brother was friends with defendant Kharey Wise, testified — reluctantly — that she talked to Wise by phone when he was at Rikers Island and that he told her that he didn’t rape the jogger, he “only held her legs down while Kevin (Richardson) f–ked her.” She originally volunteered this information to the police thinking it would be helpful to Wise.

    (The District Attorney’s report that recommended vacating the sentences described the above exchange as: “Wise replied that he had not had sex with her, but had only held and fondled the victim’s leg.”)

    Other neighborhood witnesses provided various corroborating details to the police, such as one who said Kevin Richardson told him, “We just raped somebody,” and another who heard Raymond Santana and another boy laughing about how “we made a woman bleed.”

    Two witnesses independently told police they saw several of the defendants walking from the 102nd Street traverse area where the jogger was raped. One said he realized the significance of that fact only when he saw where the memorial to the jogger in the park was.

    When Raymond Santana was being driven to the precinct the night of the wilding, he blurted out: “I had nothing to do with the rape. All I did was feel the woman’s tits.” Wait! Who said anything about rape? The cops had not asked him about any rape.

    Two of the defendants, Santana and Richardson, independently brought investigators to the precise location of the attack on the jogger, something only the perpetrators could have known.

    The evidence against Richardson also included his vivid description of the attack — given on videotape, in the presence of his father — and a deep scratch wound on his cheek that he admitted was from the jogger. Oh, also — the crotch of the underwear from the night of the attack was stained with semen, grass, dirt and debris.

    Contrary to media reports, there was hair, blood or semen on all five of the defendants.

    In the opposite of a rush to judgment, two multi-ethnic juries deliberated for 10 days and 11 days, respectively, before convicting the five defendants of rape or sexual abuse — as well as the other assaults that night, incomprehensibly vacated by Justice Tejada — and acquitting all but one on the most serious charge, attempted murder.

    But now de Blasio wants to hold down our legs while the “Central Park Five” rape us, again.

  135. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    You think liberal Jewish women prosecutors got two multiracial juries to railroad innocent black teens in 1980s New York City? Is that the theory?

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  136. Feryl says:
    @Ron Unz

    Well, from what I remember reading at the time and the Fairstein op-ed in today’s WSJ, I feel pretty sure that the five young men were actually guilty of attacking, beating, and robbing various people in Central Park that day, very likely including that particular jogger.

    Lost in all the mindless sympathy for the “innocent” defendants is that they were all proven violent delinquents. Had they not been imprisoned for this rape (whether they did or not), they likely would’ve ended up committing robbery/rape/murder/gang warfare etc.

    Perhaps the “evidence” isn’t as clear-cut as some of you think, but regardless, law enforcement and most jurors aren’t typically going to give the benefit of the doubt to such obvious thugs (at least not in the 80’s and 90’s, anyway).

    I talked w/ someone who saw the documentary, and naturally she acted outraged that such an injustice had happened. I told her that her sympathy ought to go to good people, not thugs. She acted angry at me for saying that.

    • Replies: @crimson2
  137. Precious says:
    @crimson2

    DNA–except when it exonerates the people

    Raymond Santana, “I had nothing to do with the rape. All I did was feel the woman’s…”

    Yusef Salaam, “I was there, but I didn’t rape her.”

    DNA can’t exonerate you when you say stuff like this, just an FYI.

  138. Feryl says:
    @jack daniels

    There was so much degeneracy going on in that area during the time of the attack, it’s not hard to imaging that some (or all) of the defendants taunted/harrased/molested the women before, during, or after, the actual rape, even if another person altogether committed the rape.

    The “injustice apologetics” from both the establishment Left and certain legal circles is pretty mind-blowing, here. Every “youth” who was rampaging in NYC that night doesn’t deserve the least bit of sympathy. Modern defenders of these criminals have completely forgotten just how menacing the streets were in the 1970’s-mid 1990’s.

    • Replies: @Alden
  139. Be ashamed of yourself John Derbyshire as a boy brought up on the BBC’s exemplary standards. Her is how to tell it

    BBC News: Viewpoint: What series on Central Park Five teaches us today

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48503826

    Actually my own interest is in the support the case gives to my horror at anyone being extradited to the US for trial. Recently a Four Corners (ABC) program recounted the history of US police forces being systematically trained in getting confessions which were later shown to be false.

    The body cam, video recording of interviews and DNA tests should go some way to remedying the old bad ways and their ghastly resulrs but. .

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  140. Feryl says:
    @jeff stryker

    Incarceration rose dramatically in the late 80’s and early 90’s. It had no initial apparent impact on crime (some forms of crime reached record levels in 1990-1992).

    Here’s the thing: in the 70’s-90’s, many terrible crimes were committed by teenagers and very young adults. Once young offenders started getting slapped with longer sentences in the late 80’s, a new and still quite large crop of young criminals took the place of the incarcerated older ones. And this cycle kept repeating itself, until crime was dramatically reduced from about 1996-2006.

    The best explanation for crime decline is that kids born in the 1980’s were socialized to respect rules and authority, whereas those born in the 1950’s-1970’s hated listening to anyone’s rules. Interestingly, the behavior of children improved a great deal in the early 90’s, which foreshadowed the decline in teenage delinquency that began in the late 90’s. Neil Howe and Strauss predicted, in the early 90’s, that Millennials would feel much more motivation to respect others than young Boomers and X-ers did…And their prophecy was validated when teen crime started it’s massive decline after about 1996 (when the oldest Millennials were in high school)

    Also, 1980’s crime was at it’s lowest in 1983 and 1984 (pre-dating mass incarceration), which were the high point of 1980’s optimism. Americans felt relatively good at the time, and calmed down a bit compared to how they were in the 70’s and late 80’s.

    Is mass incarceration also responsible for how awful rock music and movies have become? Or is poor quality art evidence that the Millennial and Gen Z audience is boring, and like’s it’s songs and movies to be boring? Whereas the entertainment of the 70’s-early 90’s generally suggested that young Boomers and X-ers were stimulation addicts, which was awful for the general functioning of society but atleast we got cool songs and movies from it.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @jeff stryker
    , @Alden
  141. @Wizard of Oz

    American police are terrible, no question.

  142. @Anon

    You obviously did not read the article. Told you it was too hard.

    You apparently think things like this happen in a vacuum, all by themselves sitting floating in some platonic space-time continuum, and all you have to do is figure out your little “truth” and then that’s all there is to it, chango presto.

    You are so naive propagandized and unenlightened.

  143. @jeff stryker

    Yeah. Intermarrying with the Irish has been the Negro’s downfall. No wonder their IQs are so low.

  144. Rich says:
    @Truth

    You envy us heterosexual guys? Come on Truth, I remember reading a “Jet” magazine article years ago where it stated that 75% of you guys were on the “down low” and black broads were very worried about AIDS. There was something in there about how you guys believe that the male playing the “part” of a male isn’t really homosexual. You call yourself “Truth”, want to come clean?

    • Replies: @Truth
  145. Feryl says:
    @AceDeuce

    Law enforcement (and politicians) can be very stubborn about admitting legal and law enforcement malpractice, for obvious reasons (saving face, careerism).

    That being said, I don’t blame anyone for continuing to defend the convictions of the thugs in this case.

    Also, the opinion of any particular set of people is meaningless if it doesn’t fit the facts as they are proven. Let the facts speak for themselves.

  146. Anonymous[280] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Uh, yes? NYC in the 1980s wasn’t NYC in 2019, hence why they elected the overtly tough-on-crime Giuliani in 1994 (cf. the emphasis on decarceration today).

    Not every Jew is an SJW, and this was even moreso the case in the 1980s (modern SJWs didn’t even exist then).

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  147. Anon[175] • Disclaimer says:
    @Feryl

    You have a point. Our young have incredibly crappy taste in books and music. If it’s dumb, they like it.

    I suspect some of the reason is the widespread use of birth control. White people who were a notch crazier than normal and who were born after 1945 were less likely to end up married or having kids. Their dysfunctional genes are slowly decreasing with each generation, and we’re becoming tamer.

    Too bad this doesn’t happen with violent and nasty ghetto blacks, who are encouraged to breed and raise filthy inhuman monsters on welfare.

    • Replies: @Feryl
  148. Biff says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Where did your quote come from? What is the source?

    Your Mama talks in her sleep.

    • LOL: Escher
    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Mr. Anon
  149. crimson2 says:
    @Ron Unz

    I suppose it’s possible that I might be wrong

    You think? You were wrong about Emmett Till. And you bravely acknowledged that mistake.

    Wait, you didn’t. Because you’re a fucking moron.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
  150. crimson2 says:
    @Feryl

    Had they not been imprisoned for this rape (whether they did or not), they likely would’ve ended up committing robbery/rape/murder/gang warfare etc.

    lol at this precog dipshit.

    I talked w/ someone who saw the documentary

    Hey, congrats on the social interaction. Too bad you ruined it by being a worthless racist piece of shit.

  151. Feryl says:
    @Anon

    Genetics are not the same thing as socialization; if you watch interviews with teenagers and 20 something people in the late 60’s-early 90’s, they often act like drooling apes. It’s a major reason the Silent Generation gave up on Progressive ideology; they blamed The Sixties for creating a bunch of Neanderthals.

    On the other hand, Boomers and X-ers raised their kids to be much more cautious and cerebral. And respectful. Even as a very early Millennial, I’m often aghast as to what young Boomers and X-ers considered to be “acceptable” behavior in the 60’s-90’s; the amount of callousness, taunting, and rudeness exhibited by these generations was pretty appalling back then.

    You have a point. Our young have incredibly crappy taste in books and music. If it’s dumb, they like it.

    It’s not necessarily dumb, it’s just predictable, morally simplistic, and boring. Boomers and X-ers turned Rambo 2 into a top grossing movie in 1985; they created and listened to rock bands like Kiss. Their idea of a “deep” movie is Pulp Fiction. But we aren’t talking about cerebral or moral sophistication, but rather, aesthetics. Aesthetically, art was a lot more appealing in the 80’s and early 90’s than it is now.

  152. @Bardon Kaldian

    as for Hindus, I’m not sure….

    I love the smell of human sh!t in the morning.
    Smells like…
    Mumbai!

  153. kikz says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    agreed achmed…. the 90’s was when ‘it’ went to shite. it’s very clear on most the old BBC britbox stuff i like… i still have trouble finding something in the 40’s to early 90’s range… to hold my attention…. sigh…

    i can’t even stomach some of the older ones now, in which the raving lefti hollyweird loonies are featured… ex: wedding date, i know, it’s fluff, but i used to enjoy that once a yr or so.. i simply can’t stomach messing anymore….. ahhhh. achmed, is PS your site:)?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  154. These are not Vietnam Veterans besieged by every corner of the country that they were losers when they weren’t.

    The NYC police department and NYC DA’s office have admitted error. Now it is unlikely that the both offices , both offices falsely confess. I mean we know that suspects falsely confess, and youth regardless of how tough they are have been known to confess, if nothing else just to get out of trouble and get home.

    But NYC DA’s and police confessing to something they didn’t do — to please blacks.

    Laughing.

    “Holy moly”, Hell has certainly frozen over and there is an ice water party going on as we speak.

    ““Who controls the past controls the future.” ”

    And it’s quite interesting to see how utterly dismantled some people become because they no longer have sole control over the past. And it’s quite interesting to watch — sad even.

  155. Truth says:
    @AceDeuce

    Oh, so there were more than a few Unzistas there that day? That’s a coincidence

  156. Agreed re Netflix. I got a free trial and have seen the OJ series,a series about the murders of Tupac and Biggy,and part of the Central Park show.
    OJ was good but,like the Biggy show,too long and drawn out. Dull and boring too often. The Biggy series was especially dull,drawn out and cliched . Josh Duhamel played a cool cop who was best friends with a black cop. He wore a ball cap backwards.
    Still,the segments about a troubled detective who tried to solve Biggy’s killing were often good.
    But the CP movie or show whatever it is,was pretty awful. Slow and dull and preachy. The boys were sweet Cosby kids! Their families were like Ozzie and Harriet. One scene showed one of the boys’ parents waking up the morning after—sleeping in each others arms.
    We POC are full of love! The white cavebeast is full of hate for the color of ones skin!!!

  157. Truth says:
    @Kyle Kiernan

    Yes the fact that it was committed under the same M.O. ad others by the man who confessed

  158. Truth says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Well now, slavery led to the civil war, which was probably the most important event in the history of this nation.

    What war did the CP5 lead to, other than that for the minds, hearts, and pocketbooks of phlegmatic, racist simpletons?

    As for the Till thing, absolutely, possibly a made up event as this thing might have been as well .

    Yep. You read correctly.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  159. Truth says:
    @William Badwhite

    I forgot about the “dear boy” era. Whoa was that cringeworthy.

    • Replies: @syonredux
  160. Truth says:
    @Twodees Partain

    And i would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn’t for you meddling kids…

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  161. @Chris Mallory

    “Mallory” must be an avatar then.

    Anyhow, good luck with that.

  162. Truth says:
    @Rich

    I have nothing to confess, Richie. You on the other hand seem to be quite well versed on the subject, made-up stats and all…

    • Replies: @Rich
  163. Crimson2 says:
    @Wally

    YouTube Bans CODOH* Account

    Thanks for sharing this good news.

  164. Truth says:
    @Biff

    Lol. The classics never die!

  165. Half-Jap says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    People lie all the time. People can create memories to fit lies, and experiments seem to support this well. Although it is true the student leaders were in deep sh-t. Allegedly, they were associated with what we would now call a manufactured color revolution, provided gratis by the US.
    What did happen was not a massacre, but a worker’s uprising around the country that resulted in clashes between the workers and military, during a time of Deng’s economic reforms. The students were more of a catalyst. (And that tank-man was filmed a day after students cleared out)
    The reason the commies censor so heavily regarding that day is their fear of largescale people’s uprisings. Not that there aren’t quite a few out in the hinterlands anyways.

  166. @Thomm

    THOMM

    I think the Feminazis would kill people for having a penis before they killed them for a third petty offense.

    As far as my own glorious leaders of white Nationalism are concerned…they are all a bunch of losers. Tommy Morrison is an unemployed football hooligan, seemingly.

    Richard Spencer needed a DNA test to determine his own ancestry…so much for Nordic pride.

    Milo Yannowhatsit is a gay Jew.

    Gavin McGuiness is a bit more impressive having at least managed to become a self-made millionaire. VICE magazine is alright.

    • Replies: @Thomm
    , @eah
  167. @Achilles Wannabe

    I assume any documentary I happen across on Netflix that features a black and white photo of a person I don’t recognize is about the holocaust.

  168. @William Badwhite

    Wait, you mean he’s not a white super-alpha master of the universe?

    • Replies: @Thomm
  169. @Escher

    Cancelled mine about 2 years ago, or whenever they made a show called “Dear White People” which is exactly as it sounds. Did not look back, and have heard of nothing but poisonous propaganda coming from them ever since.

  170. Mr. Anon says:
    @vinteuil

    Truth is not an idiot. He is other, much worse things.

    He’s a flat-earther. He might be worse things than an idiot, but he is also an idiot.

    • LOL: vinteuil
  171. Mr. Anon says:
    @Truth

    A predictably dull-witted comment. Say, is your stage name “Rastus”? Might as well be given what a caricature you are. If they ever revive Amos and Andy, you’re a shoe-in for Kingfish.

    Hey, it takes all kinds to make the World go round………..oops, sorry, I forgot – you’re a nitwit who thinks the World is flat.

    • Replies: @Truth
  172. Mr. Anon says:
    @Biff

    So, the source of your quote is your own posterior then.

  173. @Feryl

    FERYL

    I was born in 1974 (And I assume you were born in the early eighties) so let me give the real deal. I graduated from high school in 1992 and this was “My Generation” so to speak.

    That great liberal Sean Penn began his professional career playing out-of-control teens on film and FAST TIMES AT RIDGEMONT HIGH and BAD BOYS will tell you everything you need to know.

    The counter-culture era stretched into the early 80’s and drug use reached a zenith with kids like Jeff Spicoli in the late seventies and early eighties, just before “Just Say No”. If you watch that film again, you’d be amazed how out-of-control middle-class teens were in 1981 in terms of drug use and promiscuity.

    BAD BOYS, about an Irish-American Chicago punk who was 16 in 1982, reflects an era before teens were sentenced as adults. Penn and Morales, despite their incredibly list of felonies, could only be sentenced to Reform School until they turned 21.

    The laws changed. Juveniles were sentenced as adults and during the Reagan era drug dealers were sentenced harshly for selling drugs near schools. Hardcore teen criminals like Penn’s O’Brien were sentenced to adult prisons and drug use decline somewhat in the school system itself so the Jeff Spicoli’s disappeared.

    The other factor was the crack epidemic. By 1992 or so, this was winding down because crack declined in popularity.

    However, it was actually a part Native American who really changed everything. Richard Allen Davis and the Polly Klaas case. His case convinced the public to pass the Three Strikes Law. At that point, crime really dropped because habitual offenders simply ended up locked up for life and white career criminals-cat burglars, car thieves, chop shop owners, art thieves etc.-went straight.

    As for the difference between people born from 1970 to 1980 and those born from 1980 on is that Gen X were latchkey children of divorce who grew up post-Watergate. Gen Y were the children of Reagan-era Yuppies and were children of the roaring 90’s economy.

    People tend to embody the decade they were born and Gen X reflected the cynicism and distrust of the seventies as young adults in the 1990’s.

    Gen Y or Millennial were born in the much more optimistic eighties. They were less likely to be children of divorce, their parents were older when they were born, Mom was more likely to be stay-at-home, streets were safer by then.

    Teen crime declined after 1996 partly because the Mick O’Brien type offenders were being sentenced as adults and partly because drug use declined somewhat but also because of birth control and abortion. Roe v Wade was 1973 and afterwards, an entire generation of neglected unhappy potential juvenile offenders were never born.

    Mostly though, I’d say it was a roaring economy. Gen Y were less likely to grow up in poverty, less likely to be children of divorce, less likely to be latchkey kids, less likely to be the children of aging drug-addled hippies.

    When you watch films like the original KARATE KID, you realize just how harsh things were for Gen X kids (as the characters in that film were born in the late sixties).

    However, I’d say that Gen Y did not entirely benefit from the 1990’s. To begin with, they grew up with political correctness. They also marinated in pornography. They came of age during a bad presidency post-9-11 in lousy job market.

    • Replies: @Feryl
  174. Thomm says:
    @jeff stryker

    I think the Feminazis would kill people for having a penis before they killed them for a third petty offense.

    True. The typical feminist has no problem with shoplifting.

    As far as my own glorious leaders of white Nationalism are concerned…they are all a bunch of losers.

    This is obvious to all normals. WN is the purest concentration of Dunning-Kruger.

    Gavin McGuiness is a bit more impressive having at least managed to become a self-made millionaire.

    Gavin isn’t a WN, as he is friendly with conservatives of color.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
    , @Mr. Anon
  175. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    You are parading your ignorance. New York City was incredibly liberal in 1989 – they even elected a black man mayor that year. Rudy Giuliani was cross-endorsed by the New York Liberal Party in 1993. He was elected because Dinkins was seen as ineffectual on crime (the number of murders actually peaked in the 1990, but was still ~6x higher than today’s rate in 1993).

    • Replies: @Feryl
    , @Anonymous
  176. eah says:
    @teachem2think

    OK — but if you read all the material on this, you learn 1) the confessions were generally credible, properly obtained, and corroborated; 2) some of them confessed to holding her down while others raped her (or tried or pretended to rape her) — if you eg burglarize a home with a partner who is armed, and it turns into a ‘burglary gone wrong’ when your partner shoots and kills the homeowner, in at least some legal jurisdictions you will also be charged with murder — so in this case, I do not see why someone who admitted to holding a woman down while she is raped should not also be charged with rape — also I personally think anyone present during the rape and who did nothing to stop or prevent it should also be charged with rape — or the most serious charge possible — all of them.

    Too bad Ron Unz didn’t bother answering the question.

  177. eah says:
    @jeff stryker

    they are all a bunch of losers

    Says the guy who couldn’t make it in a white country (or probably attract a decent white woman) so he cut out for Asia, where the women don’t seem to mind so much if their men are beta “losers”.

    To point out the obvious (necessary for some, now apparently you included): your opinion of “leaders of white Nationalism”, whoever you think they are (your list is “LOL” absurd), isn’t relevant or of any interest — there is nothing wrong with the idea that majority white nations have value and are worth preserving, eg as homelands for white people; so there is nothing wrong with White Nationalism, the political expression of this idea.

    • Agree: Alden
  178. @Dave Pinsen

    A few bits of the graphic testimony there appears to join the scripts of episodes of ‘Dawson’s Creek’ and ‘Scrubs’ as source material for the infamous ‘Rape on Campus’ tale as told by Jackie Coakley and Sabrina Rubin Erdely.

  179. vinteuil says:
    @Truth

    Yes. One being a heterosexual man…

    No. The thing that’s worse than being an idiot is being a deceiver.

    I envy you guys sometimes.

    What do you mean by “you guys?”

  180. AceDeuce says:
    @crimson2

    Emmett Till was indeed guilty of sexual assault. What’s “wrong” with saying that?

    • Replies: @Crimson2
    , @Truth
  181. vinteuil says:
    @Truth

    Well it was 30 years ago. I’d get over it if I was you.

    Jeezus, Troof – did you really post that?

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  182. @Thomm

    McGuiness is a disingenuous Brit.

    He waxes lyrical about Canada when like most frostbacks he moved to New York City in order to find the startup for his magazine.

    He may be conservative but his magazine was couched in the uber-liberal decadence of the nineties.

    • Replies: @vinteuil
  183. @crimson2

    Oh no! Not a “racist”! Help us!

    • Replies: @Crimson2
  184. @Truth

    TRUTH

    Here is where what you would call “white ethnics” from the Northern industrial states part company with you.

    We arrived 40 or 50 years after the Civil War and regardless the Italians, Irish and of course Jews were really going to shape the course of the United States in the 20th centuries.

    Our American history has nothing to do with Gettysberg or the South or Emancipation. We arrived after that.

  185. vinteuil says:
    @jeff stryker

    It’s funny that guys like Thomm & Jeff Stryker don’t even bother to get a room, any more.

  186. Mr. Anon says:
    @Thomm

    Gavin isn’t a WN, as he is friendly with conservatives of color.

    He also shoves things up his ass. Your kind of guy.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  187. Crimson2 says:
    @AceDeuce

    No. The woman admitted she had lied about Till touching her.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    , @Alden
    , @Alden
  188. Mr. Anon says:
    @vinteuil

    And yet “Truth” will excuse any bad behavior by any black anywhere. He will also – like the loathsome skunk he is – suggest that the white victims had it coming, as he did with the murders of Christian and Newsom. And if it just happened yesterday, he would (disingenuously) tell you to just “get over it”.

    He’s a cockroach.

    • Agree: vinteuil
  189. anarchyst says:

    Here are true (corrected) stories about “icons” of the so-called “civil rights” movement . .

    There is much more to the “Emmett Till” story that is not widely known. Of course, killing him made him into a “martyr” of the black “civil-rights” movement. It is not generally known that Emmett Till was a strapping young man of about 160 lbs.–NOT a “little boy” as some media types tried to portray him as.
    Till was a known womanizer and attempted to take his cocky “Chicago ways” in dealing with women to the Deep South.
    He was sent to live with relatives in the South because his Chicago relatives could not handle him.
    He had a “cocky attitude” and bragged about “getting it on” with white women–not a good idea, especially in the South. . .
    According to published accounts, Mr. Till did not just “whistle” at a white woman, but grabbed, manhandled and fondled a married white woman.
    In Southern culture, this was, and still is, the ultimate form of disrespect.
    Despite Mr. Till’s relatives’ attempts to spirit him “out of town” to avoid retribution by the woman’s relatives and townspeople, his cocky attitude “got in the way”, similar to the way that “young master Trayvon’s” attitude got him killed.
    Despite being given numerous “chances” to apologize for his behavior, he was defiant to the end. IF he had apologized for his behavior, he would still be alive today. In fact, one of his killers was a black man.

    It is interesting to note that Emmett Till’s father was executed by the U S military for multiple rapes. Maybe “the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree” . . .

    Rosa Parks was not the “ordinary” black woman that so-called historians made her to be. She was an organizer for the NAACP and was “planted” in order to advance the cause of black “civil-rights” to which she was successful.
    Approximately a year previous to Rosa Parks’ “bus ride” and refusal to vacate her seat, a REAL ordinary black woman did the same thing. This black woman received NO publicity or support from the NAACP or other black “civil-rights” organizations. You see, she was an unmarried black woman with children.
    According to the black civil-rights crowd, this would not do. They wanted someone who was “squeaky clean” without any “baggage”.
    In fact, the “white guy” sitting behind her was part of the “set-up”. He was a UPI reporter, contracted to “stage” the event…not only that, in the photo there is no one else on the bus. Ms. Parks could have sat wherever she wanted.
    Hence, Rosa Parks made (fabricated) history . . .

    Martin Luther (Michael) King was well-known for frequenting prostitutes, beating and abusing them while exclaiming that he “finally felt like a white man”. His own associates have stated as such. He also plagiarized his college papers and doctoral thesis. Of course, this was overlooked because of his status. King was also a communist.

    Jesse Jackson used to brag to his associates on how he would spit in the food of white patrons of the restaurant he worked at.

    There are many more fabrications of history that were used to lend “legitimacy” to the so-called “civil-rights” movement . . .

    More to come . . .

  190. Truth says:
    @AceDeuce

    So you were there as well? Old Sport, you get around!

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
  191. Truth says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Hey, that was a prety good pun, Grasshopper. Did you come up with it alone?

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  192. @Mr. Anon

    No DNA means very unlikely these 5 raped her

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Precious
  193. Rich says:
    @Truth

    Careful Truthie, are you actually implying that a black publication would publish an article by a black author that wasn’t true? That’s could be considered a hate crime. Or is it that living out in the desert, away from all that buggery, you realize it was wrong and are just trying to forget?

    • Replies: @Truth
  194. steptoe says:

    DNA proved they all were innocent, you racist idiots. You are vile and everything that is wrong with this world. Give me my 40 acres and a mule and I will leave your white slime to decay in its hate, and never return. That is something you would like for sure.

    • Agree: Crimson2
    • Replies: @Precious
    , @Alden
    , @Feryl
  195. Rurik says:
    @Sam Coulton

    No DNA means very unlikely these 5 raped her

    if they had, and it was proven beyond any doubt, how many SJW and POC would still want them set free?

    I remember listening to Geraldo during the OJ trials, and he was talking to a black woman, who said, matter of factly- that even if he did it, he should be allowed to go free, because too many black children don’t have their fathers in their lives, and it was more important for the children to have their father, than to punish a murderer, (who apparently only killed some white whore and her boyfriend anyways).

    Kobe Bryant has admitted to brutally raping a white girl, and yet he’s treated like a hero today.

    His ‘punishment’ was only that he had to admit doing it, because the traumatized girl didn’t want to live through the nightmare of ‘that white whore just wants money!!’, or the bitch asked for it!, blah, blah, blah.

    Are there any civil rights leaders or ‘reverends’ or feminists that have condemned what Kobe did?

    Did Whoopi Goldberg denounce this wealthy, privileged male attack on a powerless female?

    Or is raping a white girl considered a black man’s prerogative? Sort of a way of getting their reparations?

    Just consider the way the ((media)) and progressive leftists and civil rights leaders and ‘reverends’ and feminists all screeched with hysterical shrieking that Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh was a vile rapist and beneath all contempt!!

    Based on zero evidence, and flagrantly preposterous testimony.

    Whereas evidence, including a confession of brutal rape, is yawn worthy, if the rapist is a famous black man and the victim a small town white girl.

    The double standards in our society are so blatantly one-sided; it’s cringe-worthy, if you posses in your soul, the tiniest shred of justice whatsoever.

    • Replies: @S
    , @Crimson2
  196. Thomm says:
    @Mr. Anon

    He also shoves things up his ass. Your kind of guy.

    er… Gavin McInnes is heterosexual (unlike you). His wife’s name is Emily.

    You need to separate your wishes from reality. Just because you and all the people who surround you are gay, does not mean normal people are.

    Projection, such as what you have engaged in, is evidence of low IQ.

    • Replies: @Wernermagnus
    , @Mr. Anon
  197. @kikz

    Yep! I’m gonna write more on Tiananmen Square in a little bit here.

  198. Rurik says:
    @jeff stryker

    The fact is that a great many rural whites are SO POOR that some (Not all by any means) Jews actually feel pity for them due to their poverty, like Sanders.

    what are you talking about?

    Sanders claimed, (in Flint, MI of all places!), that white people don’t know what poverty is even like. They’re all so privileged, that poverty (or police abuse) never, ever happens to a white person, ever.

    The life of your average Jew is pleasant. Nice suburb, police are polite and deferential, nice schools.

    You yourself have pointed out (And I can agree because of my own experiences as a lower middle class white) the experiences of many urban non-Jewish whites are not nearly as pleasant.

    just because Soros is wealthy and privileged, doesn’t mean he wouldn’t want every white Hungarian, (or American for that matter), brutalized to death for the temerity of not bowing down to Jewish supremacists like himself. Indeed, the more privileged and pampered and exalted the Jewish supremacists become, the more they’re filled with visceral hatred for the white underclass. Duh.

    • Replies: @Alden
  199. Thomm says:
    @Malcolm X-Lax

    Wait, you mean he’s not a white super-alpha master of the universe?

    I am white. This is obvious by a quick assessment of my 1000+ comments over two years. Commenter ‘Truth’ can confirm this.

    A bunch of these WN idiots imagine that I am Indian, Jewish, Chinese, etc. depending on what they are paranoid about at that particular instance.

    It is just a pain avoidance mechanism on their part, since they can’t bear to face the reality that mainstream white people want nothing to do with WNs (and their female counterparts, the fat bluehaired feminists), and are not interested in subsidizing them.

  200. eah says:
    @Biff

    And I’m pretty sure the DNA evidence has sorted out the guilty party,…

    Who beat the woman nearly to death?

    tabloid writers

    “LOL”

  201. Ron Unz says:
    @vinteuil

    The substance of the “hoax,” according to your link, is that most, if not all, of the killings took place near, rather than in Tiananmen Square, and most, if not all, of the victims were rebellious workers rather than students.

    These are not completely trivial differences, but the ChiCom regime comes out looking just as bad, both for the killings themselves and for the ongoing suppression of free inquiry into the matter.

    Well, look. The PRC government itself claimed that 300 or more people were killed in the violent rioting elsewhere in Beijing, with quite a number of them being soldiers, burned to death by Molotov Cocktails and that sort of thing. That sounds pretty plausible to me. Maybe the true figure was 500— who knows? But as far as I can tell, there’s no evidence the PRC claims were false and gigantic evidence that the Western MSM claims were false, and have been endlessly repeated as knowing falsehoods for decades, most recently just last week in both the NYT and the WSJ.

    Given the substantial numbers of Americans who died in e.g. the Watts Riots and the later LA Riots, it sounds like you believe our media should start calling them the “Watts Massacre” and the “LA Massacre.” Well, go ahead and be my guest. Maybe Al Sharpton will put you on his TV show.

    Moreover, I’m not sure if a single National Guardsman was killed by rioters in either of those riots. Suppose some of the rioters had burned National Guardsman alive with Molotov Cocktails. I suspect the government response would have produced a civilian death-toll easily into the thousands, almost certainly dwarfing those killed in the Beijing Riots.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @vinteuil
  202. voicum says:
    @Tusk

    Correct. I stopped reading much faster than other times. Just garbage.

  203. Precious says:
    @steptoe

    DNA proved they all were innocent

    You can’t prove they were innocent retard, not even with DNA.

    racist…vile…wrong with this world…mule…slime…decay…hate

    ^I distilled the rest of your post down to its essence.

    • Replies: @steptoe
  204. Alden says:

    The Netflix movie is just a re run of that pro rape book To Kill a Mockingbird. That book ushered in a wave of prosecutor’s being unable to prosecute black on White rapes for about 15 -20 years because that book created the myth that White woman welcomed advances by black men and that all accusations and reports of rapes of black men were false. It took the very jewish feminists whose mothers had crusaded to allow blacks to rob rape and murder at will to change that.

    Anyway, the whole thing is not just about rape. It’s about the latest deja vu crusade to let black criminals run rampant. 1950 the criminal laws were intended to protect both society at large and individual victims of crime. The endless jewish propaganda about poor poor pitiful black criminals driven to commit crime by evil White society prevailed by the early 1960’s. And the criminal justice system favored criminal defendants and every time a black was arrested the media blasted that he was a poor innocent victim of society.

    Now days we have TV shows like Law and Order set in a city where 95 percent of all murderers are black and hispanic yet on the show every murderer is not only White but a wealthy White who lives in the most expensive neighborhoods in the city. People absorb all that, especially blacks and liberals whose brains are just empty sinks waiting for the plug to be put in and the faucet of propaganda turned on.

    Then the black criminals gained so much control of the system that a reaction started with all the 3 strikes laws and allowing victims of crimes to make impact statements. Prosecutors still are not allowed to show pictures of dead victims of murder because it might prejudice the jury against the murderers. We’ve had about 35 years of pro society pro victim anti criminal laws. Now the liberals are changing it back again. They have nothing new to offer, just more pro black criminality.

    It will happen. The laws and police procedures will be changed to protect black criminals and the cities will empty again.

  205. Alden says:
    @steptoe

    DNA only proves guilt. One of the rapists, after he was released from prison raped a black woman and threw her off a roof and she died instantly when she landed. But the murders and rapes of black women by black men doesn’t matter to the black community as long as a few of them can get away with raping and murdering White women

    The current theory is that the black animals robbed her and beat her almost to death and left her there. The PR animals found her and seeing she was helpless raped her. None of them should ever have been born.

    None of the useless consumers of oxygen and space should ever have been born. Get that all you idiots who think only White women get abortions? All you idiots who can’t be bothered to look at the abortion statistics? All you idiots who endlessly fulminate about illegals and blacks on welfare?

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
  206. Alden says:
    @Ron Unz

    Virtually every person who was killed or injured after the first day of the Rodney King riots was a looter. Everyone else hunkered down at home with their guns at hand or got out of town Lots of blacks loaded themselves and the kids in the car about 3/am when it was quieter and fled to relatives in River side and San Bernadino.

    The black students at UCLA looted their own campus stores and the nearby Westwood shopping area.
    Campus police stood by and let them loot because they were black. Some of the landlords saw them running back and forth from the stores to their apartments with big garbage bags full of loot. As landlords, they knew the names of their tenants. The looters were reported to the UCLA police and administrators. The reports were not accepted because blacks are allowed to loot at will.

    If you’re going to run out and loot the second day of a riot, what happens will happen.

    • Replies: @eah
  207. Alden says:
    @Thomm

    I know exactly who you are. You’re an Indian on call part time independent contractor incompetent coder who lives in his uncle’s garden shed in Cupertino. I personally don’t care about Indians. In fact, we welcome any and all fifth world immigrants to California. American nuclear family of 5 or filthy fifth world immigrants, the rent is the same. I can just imagine your compound. A little less than1/4 acre. dinky little 3 bedroom 2 bath 1,700 sq ft house right in the middle of the lot. Attached garage and a couple of those little metal sheds occupying the rest of the back yard. And about 25 filthy Indians living in the compound. The neighbors don’t complain about the human waste in the yard because they too are filthy Indians.

    If all 25 of you can’t afford the rent, just crowd in 5 or 6 more, who cares as long as you pay the exorbitant rent.

  208. steptoe says:
    @Precious

    DNA proved the sperm did not belong to any of them; it was obviously not any of them. In that case, add penis envy to my original post.

    • Replies: @Precious
  209. Alden says:
    @jeff stryker

    Been around middle and upper class Jews all my life. In fact grew up with kids of my parents best friends, majority shareholders of exxon, descendants of John Rockefeller’s first partner in Standard Oil, Jewish of course. Then there’s the woman who considered herself a friend of mine. She seemed to loathe every White she met but me. Niece of Edgar Bronfman of Shceneley big canadian liquor cartel and president of world zionist congress. I can tell you,they despise most Whites, especially poor ones. And southern poor Whites above all

  210. Alden says:
    @jeff stryker

    As you’ve told us a million times; you lived in the most crime ridden ghetto of Phoenix. You can only Judge by what part of Phoenix you knew. There are other parts of Phoenix you know, 4 million dollar homes and virtually no crime.

  211. Mary says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Ummm…how? No White person was convicted of anything regarding Emmett Till. How is this similar? And the nasty old beef jerky who falsely accused him admitted what she’d done recently. She deserves some form of punishment, I’m not picky about the delivery of it.

    • Replies: @Alden
  212. @Biff

    I don’t think what happened to Trisha Meili should ever be considered “Tabloid”.
    It’s appalling that someone would call that tabloid news. Go read the details of what those sick people did to her. They were laughing about it later!!

  213. Mary says:

    How are White people surprised that this happened? Why are White people acting as if this is beyond anything their evil race could do? Lmao.

    • Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax
  214. eah says:
    @Alden

    The reports were not accepted because blacks are allowed to loot at will.

    Another example: after the conclusion of the federal Ferguson/Michael Brown investigation (which confirmed the findings of local authorities), it was very clear that: 1) the ‘hands up don’t shoot’ narrative was a total lie; 2) numerous Blacks had lied about what happened to investigators and under oath before the grand jury — this is perjury, which is a felony — but none were prosecuted — not to prosecute was a deliberate decision by authorities.

  215. Alden says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Till deserved death. Best part of the episode is that he hadn’t yet spawned another rapist/criminal. His death improved the gene pool slightly.

  216. Alden says:
    @awry

    Leo Frank who raped and murdered a 12 year old girl who worked in his factory for $1.25 a week. His conviction pardon and lynching was the big impetus for the Jewish attack on the criminal justice system. If all rapists/murderers in the country must be allowed to get away with it so that one Jew can get away with it, then so be it.

    That was one case where lynching was totally justified.

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
  217. Alden says:
    @kikz

    Turner classics has been WW2 propaganda non stop since the middle of May. History channel Nat Geo non stop Hitler Hitler Hitler.

  218. Alden says:
    @Jake

    Being an ultra WASP myself, I must admit you’re right. I’m very familiar with the original puritan loons version of neo judaism. And your are absolutely right. The Quakers were and are just as bad.

    The puritans weren’t even christians. ” There is but one God and that is the God of Israel”

  219. Alden says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    Most of the women hating ancient doddering codgers on this site object to abortion, the abortion pill and even birth control. They endlessly complain about blacks and immigrants on welfare but don’t see the connection between welfare and birth of blacks and browns.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @RadicalCenter
  220. Alden says:
    @jeff stryker

    I well remember what the criminal justice system was like before the 3 strikes law and the feminazi attack on rape. The most useless job in America was to be a district attorney in some states and jurisdictions.

  221. Alden says:
    @Jake

    Wonderful post. I was going to reply that most of the damage came after JFK and RFK were dead.

  222. Alden says:
    @jeff stryker

    Don’t forget that it was Democrats who fought the civil war in favor of secession and the continuation of slavery. And after the civil war the democrats managed to develop and enforce segregation and equal enforcement of the criminal laws. And it was Democrats who created Memorial Day in honor of the 750,000 White men who died in the civil war to unleash the black plague.

    Now Memorial Day is non stop Hitler Hating and worship of Jews for a solid month. It’s the 12th today. When will the WW2 c**p end?

    Blacks were Republicans until the 1960’s. MLK was a Republican so were all the black congress
    critters and the one Senator.

    The Republican party was founded in 1856 with the sole purpose of freeing the slaves and unleashing the black plague on the nation.

    Democrats; Irish, Jews,E Europeans, gays, blacks, criminals and welfare immigrants. What a crew.

    Republicans; cut throat capitalists, anti abortionists patriots and other idiots. What a crew.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  223. Alden says:
    @Truth

    They had a riot about the black Africans harassing Chinese girls just a few years before Tiananmen riots. News was suppressed in the interests of solidarity against evil Whitey.

    • Replies: @Truth
  224. Alden says:
    @Anonymous

    Yup Get rid of them before they spawn

  225. Alden says:
    @teachem2think

    Which of the 50 separate state penal codes did that come from? Did you know that in some states complete penetration ejaculation is not termed rape but sexual assault? Do a little more internet
    “research”.

  226. Precious says:
    @steptoe

    DNA proved the sperm did not belong to any of them

    That doesn’t prove they are innocent retard.

    blah, blah, blah, blah, blah

    Nobody cares.

  227. Alden says:
    @obwandiyag

    The Innocence project has really backfired. They did exonerate a few people early on. But then DNA science improved and more and more of their innocently convicted scum proved to be guilty as charged. The Innocence Project is pretty much dead.

    And the best thing for law enforcement ever is the fact that in many states every arrestee is swabbed for DNA and it goes into a data base like fingerprints. More and more and more DNA recovered from victims shows up in the DNA data base and another POS is off to prison.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
  228. Alden says:
    @Anon

    What? Your ancestors got drafted into stupid wars? Or just your father and uncles?

  229. Alden says:
    @attilathehen

    Tillythehen and whiskey should get together. Maybe they can work off their frustrations and stop posting nonsense

    • Replies: @attilathehen
    , @Truth
  230. Feryl says:
    @steptoe

    DNA has become a convenient (and unscientific) way of excluding suspects from a crime. In reality, unless you have photographic evidence (or purchase receipts) that someone was away from the crime scene at the actual time of the crime, it’s impossible to prove that a given person did not commit a physical crime.

    For example, a DA in Colorado said that hair on Jon Benet Ramsey could not be traced to any individual known to have been present in the home around the time she was killed. Therefore, nobody in her family did anything wrong. What bullshit! The hair could’ve come from any number of people who had nothing to do with the crime, and furthermore, even if the perp left the hair, that doesn’t eliminate the possibility that another individual (perhaps a family member) was involved in the crime.

    In the West Memphis 3 case, a terrific website devoted to the case acknowledges that DNA evidence indicates that someone besides the three teenagers arrested must’ve had some involvement in the crime, due to the location of the DNA evidence. Nevertheless, the website’s owner has stated that while much evidence suggests that Jessie Misskelley and Jason Baldwin couldn’t have been responsible for the murders, Damien has a much weaker alibi for his actions during this time, and furthermore, Damien had a history of violence and mental problems. There’s also the major factor that Misskelley was arrested first, and blurted out the name of “Jason Baldwin” when the cops interrogated him….Thing is, another Jason Baldwin, who was a heavy set neighborhood bully, was probably the Baldwin who Misskelley was referring to. But the police inadvertently arrested the skinny and shy Jason Baldwin, not the big bully one. The guy who runs the website knows the case as well as anyone (lots of attention devoted to time lines, statements from witnesses/family members/police etc.), and even he doesn’t automatically buy that all three of the teens could not have been involved in some way; close analysis of the case reveals that while Misskelley and Baldwin were royally screwed by stupid and arrogant cops, the police still had good reason to suspect Damien, and frankly, it can’t be said with complete certainty that Damien had no role in the crime whatsoever.

    No case is as simple (“open and shut”) as a lot of people would like to think. Without strong alibis provided by cameras, receipts, employment records (as in when did you work and on what days?), and statements from numerous and credible witnesses, it can be rather difficult to prove that some one could not have been physically present during a crime.

    “DNA” has, in some ways, become a pain in the ass for prosecutors, because naive laymen hear the term “DNA” and assume that it means the complete guilt or complete innocence of as suspect. Cops and prosecutors now have to deal with the fact that much of the public takes it for granted that SCIENCE! alone can determine a trial. Whereas old-school police work often relies on circumstantial evidence and establishing motive.

    • Agree: Alden
  231. Feryl says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    I’m pretty sure his point was that NYC was more conservative in the 80’s than it is now. Can’t argue with that, right?

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  232. @Truth

    Well now, five other gentlemen ADMITTED to the attack-beating, earlier.

    • Replies: @Truth
  233. Timothy says:
    @Escher

    No, you’re sorely tempted to keep your Netflix Subscription. Why are you still giving money to them anyway? You’d make a Clinton donation because they’d have explosions and sex scenes at the rally? Of course not! So ditch the people who use their position to subvert the public.

  234. Feryl says:
    @jeff stryker

    I was born in 1974 (And I assume you were born in the early eighties) so let me give the real deal. I graduated from high school in 1992 and this was “My Generation” so to speak.

    I was born in early 1985.

    The counter-culture era stretched into the early 80’s and drug use reached a zenith with kids like Jeff Spicoli in the late seventies and early eighties, just before “Just Say No”. If you watch that film again, you’d be amazed how out-of-control middle-class teens were in 1981 in terms of drug use and promiscuity.

    Just about everything I’ve heard and seen (secondhand, of course) indicates that. People can forget (or are too young to know) that the meme that at least some drugs (if not all of them) were basically harmless was accepted by Boomers in not just the 70’s, but into the early 80’s also. And since teens are more affected by trends than other age groups, it’s not surprising that the Jimmy Carter era did so much damage to the cohort born from about 1961-1964 (which Strauss and Howe regard as the first Gen X-ers, and are credited for setting the tone for “Gen X” culture in the 80’s and early 90’s). They said that interviews they conducted revealed that starting with people born in 1961, there was a big drop-off in people expressing confidence and pride in their generation’s accomplishments (whereas those born form 1943-1960 were often borderline arrogant about taking credit for “improving” society).

    Mostly though, I’d say it was a roaring economy. Gen Y were less likely to grow up in poverty, less likely to be children of divorce, less likely to be latchkey kids, less likely to be the children of aging drug-addled hippies.

    The mid-80’s economic boom (which admittedly was softer than the mid-late 90’s boom) did briefly diminish crime, but only a slight bit. I’m not sure the condition of the economy really has all that much to do with generational tendencies. I think that there’s a lot of peer-based socialization that goes on, which changes from one generation to another, for better or for worse. But like you say, hearing about a “war on drugs” and a “war on child abuse” sends a message to a generation of kids that their lives are important and worth prolonging, which these kids then transmit to each other; not necessarily overtly, but through more subtle means (for example, by not bullying your class-mates, you’re telling them that their feelings and dignity mean something).

    When you watch films like the original KARATE KID, you realize just how harsh things were for Gen X kids (as the characters in that film were born in the late sixties).

    Bill Zabka was actually born in 1965, so sometimes movies do cast actual teenagers (the movie was filmed in 1983 and early 1984)

    However, I’d say that Gen Y did not entirely benefit from the 1990’s. To begin with, they grew up with political correctness. They also marinated in pornography. They came of age during a bad presidency post-9-11 in lousy job market.

    Actually, I think the 90’s were relatively wholesome*; no torture porn, the pop music was either introspectively thoughtful or fairly buoyant (more so the late 90’s). Sure, a lot of early 90’s rock was rough (death metal and grunge) but that burnt out fairly quickly. The PC of the time was only marginally worse than it was in the 80’s. The culture of the 2000’s, which was mostly made by aging Boomers and X-ers, really took a turn for the open sewer; Britney and Xtina took porno chic to pop music, rappers started becoming really materialistic (rather than the gritty tough survivor ghetto tales of the 80’s and 90’s) and gay, super low rise pants took off for no good reason (they aren’t comfortable to wear, and they don’t flatter most body types).

    In the 2010’s, pop culture is back to being more pro-social, although there’s the caveat that Super PC has become as serious pain in the ass. I’d say that with Millennials finally creating pop culture, and trying to appeal to the demure Gen Z audience, music and movies seem a lot less heavy on torture/gore/screaming, and decadent sexualization isn’t being used as much to cover up a lack of substance. Economy-wise, yeah, that speaks for itself. But it also speaks to the idiocy of the Silents and Boomers who dismantled the New Deal, and have alienated X-ers and Millennials from greater civic involvement and financial security. X-ers know it’s a joke, but may sit on the fence as to how much they want to exert to help out younger generations who were hit harder than X-ers were. But Millennials are in total agreement that we have to bring big government back, not just to help Millennials, but to assist Boomer and Gen X family, and also to stop Gen Z from being robbed blind like the Millennials were.

    *See also: declining crime rates, declining child abuse (the growing number of abortion clinic bombings are evidence of the trend towards child protection), declining drug use (in the early 90’s, it went up later in the decade), the nation balanced it’s budget, interest in “New age” spiritual BS probably at it’s lowest point since the 1950’s. The 80’s are a “mirage” decade; beneath the healthy complexion lay a rotten heart, something which many 80’s horror movies emphasized (best example being a Nightmare on Elm Street; teen Nancy has estranged parents who’ve tried to cover up a murder their entire lives, but the person they killed haunts the dreams of the kids born to the people who killed him, and now he’s getting revenge on them). Many of the things we “credit” to the 80’s, fittingly enough, are more accurately attributed to the 90’s. The Me Generation bought into to many rotten myths in the 60’s-80’s, and was too far gone into self-indulgence, to fully clean itself up in the 80’s. Why would you trust the Me Gen to be honest about hardly anything, much less the general state of the culture in the 1980’s? It’s largely X-ers and Millennials who’ve done the task of trying to mend the damage inflicted by Silents and Boomers.

    • Replies: @Alden
  235. @AceDeuce

    Quite a few “conservatives” have. No one virtue-signals like these morons.

  236. @Anonymous

    “Total mystery.”

    Writing something like the above is what gets you banned from “right-wing websites.”

  237. @Thomm

    I am white.

    Subcontinentals are not white. It is understandable that you wish to be white but is does not make it so.

    A bunch of these WN idiots imagine that I am Indian, Jewish, Chinese, etc. depending on what they are paranoid about at that particular instance.

    Contempt is not paranoia, Road Pooper. Your weird paranoid obsession with “WN’s” is kind of tiresome. Focus on dealing with your people’s sewage.

  238. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Feryl

    Sure I can. It’s a ludicrous claim. New York City was in no sense conservative in 1989.

    There are limits to what can be retconned. The Central Park thugs were admittedly guilty, and were convicted by multiracial juries in liberal NYC.

  239. @Gracchus Babeuf

    “Here’s an intelligent commentary on the incident.”

    Yawn. The writer thinks no black individual (or group) has ever committed a crime. Where is the movie or documentary on the NOI/Zebra Killings? Or the Knoxville Horror Christian-Newsom torture-murders?

    By the way, another trial (the eighth) for the latter case is set for two months from now. Will the MSM be there?

  240. Alden says:
    @eah

    Some state penal codes don’t use the word rape. Even full penetration ejaculation is termed sexual assault. It’s very bad terminology because most people think of sexual assault as a bit of rubbing in a crowded bus.

    • Replies: @S
  241. Alden says:
    @Daniel H

    I worked at UCLA the University of Caucasians Lost among Asians in 1993. A couple years later the Asian students had tripled. I didn’t pay much attention to the incident. It was my opinion that it was just a demonstration by spoiled brat upper class kids, identical to the spoiled rich kid outbursts by American college students.

    Still is my opinion.

  242. Alden says:
    @Feryl

    Here’s an example of upper upper class Jewish worship and adoration of black thugs back in the 1970’s. She’s my friend who’s a niece of the Bronfman head of world Jewish congress owns the Schenely liquor cartel. He’s born middle class became one of the most successful PI attorneys in the country. Both were incredibly vocal about evil Whites and innocent black criminals.

    They lived in an extremely wealthy White city neighborhood that was only about a mile away from a very nasty high crime black neighborhood.

    One night they went out to walk the dog and were attacked by the usual 3 man black mugging team. They were mauling her around and talking about taking her off to rape her. One noticed that the car keys in his wallet were Mercedes so they went back to their house and stole his car instead.

    They reported the robbery to the police but claimed the 3 robbers were White. The police questioned this as there had not been a street robbery in that neighborhood for decades. They then complained to the department about the racism of the officers questioning the race of the robbers.

    They told me the truth, that the robbers were the standard black animals that infested the city. They were soooo proud of themselves for reporting the race of the robbers as White instead of black. They claimed it was a blow for civil rights or something. One less robbery to the black column and one more for the White column.

    That’s the way many Jews are, especially the wealthy powerful ones that run the Jewish organizations and write their publications

    The dog? A big German Shepherd? He totally wimped our. Didn’t even bark.

  243. Alden says:
    @Feryl

    Fewer useless welfare women have babies, fewer children get abused by disfunctional mommy and rapist abusive boyfriends.

  244. Alden says:
    @William Badwhite

    Does your uncle let you use the bathroom in the house or do you have a chemical toilet in your garden shed?

  245. S says:
    @Rurik

    I remember listening to Geraldo during the OJ trials, and he was talking to a black woman, who said, matter of factly- that even if he did it, he should be allowed to go free, because too many black children don’t have their fathers in their lives, and it was more important for the children to have their father, than to punish a murderer, (who apparently only killed some white whore and her boyfriend anyways).

    I came across and read the book written by a lawyer (a fellow of proud Italian ‘immigrant’ background) who led the legal team which won the civil case against OJ in regards to the Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman murders. The guy was an acknowledged and self described ‘progressive’, most likely as Nicole and Ron were before their murders.

    The lawyer (paraphrasing only slightly from memory) described at the beginning of his lengthy book how a major core belief of being a progressive was that a White person could never be allowed to be in a superior position to a Black, no matter what.

    Anyhow, while doing research for the civil case he made it plain he became convinced OJ committed the murders. As part of the preparation for the case they held mock trials and (to his credit) acknowledged finding that none of the Black mock jurors, despite whatever strong evidence they had presented to them linking OJ to the two murders, up to and including to the point of a hypothetical live video of OJ committing the act, would convict OJ. It didn’t matter. It was always, he didn’t do it, and acquit.

    So, also to his great credit, this progressive lawyer openly acknowledged the only way to obtain justice in the case was to literally ‘stack’ the jury with a heavy majority of Whites and non-Blacks. The one or two Blacks that ultimately got through, who almost certainly voted ‘not guilty’, didn’t matter as a civil case doesn’t require a unanimous verdict.

    So, that’s how he won the civil case.

    As far as I know this lawyer is still a convinced ‘progressive’.

    It just goes to show that even a ‘progressive’ can speak hard truths once in a great while, even if it does take their being motivated by a vast sum of money to do so, as these lawyers were paid extremely well for their services in the civil trial.

    • Replies: @Precious
    , @Rurik
  246. S says:
    @Alden

    Many also don’t quite realize that rape often has the effect of destroying a woman psychologically. In a certain sense in those cases rape is much like murder.

    • Replies: @Feryl
  247. @Alden

    I’ve seen your name here and there.

    Do you have a vested interest in Asian poontang?

    I deal with facts, but I have an idea why you can’t deal with reality.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Truth
    , @Alden
    , @jeff stryker
  248. Precious says:
    @Sam Coulton

    No DNA means very unlikely these 5 raped her

    Raymond Santana, “I had nothing to do with the rape. All I did was feel the woman’s…”

    Yusef Salaam, “I was there, but I didn’t rape her.”

    Have you heard of the concept of accessory to a felony crime? Are you aware that if you join in an attack on someone and someone else participating rapes the person you attacked, you are going to be charged along with the rapist?* Are you aware that if they can’t find the rapist, but they find you, that isn’t going to exonerate you in court?

    *Unless you do something drastic like immediately call the cops.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Sam Coulton
  249. Truth says:
    @Alden

    You don’t object ro the massacre of 1,200 white people DAILY?

    • Replies: @Alden
  250. Truth says:
    @Alden

    So let me see if i get this straight, you are another one who believes that the world’s smartest people, gave up their lives, by lying under moving tanks; because Africans were “harassing” Chinese girls, in a country where the average salary was 40 cents an hour?

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @RadicalCenter
  251. Truth says:
    @Rich

    No, im implying that you are pylling a stupid ridiculous number out of your rear end. But go ahead and prove me wrong.

    • Replies: @Rich
  252. Truth says:
    @David In TN

    You dont get a life sentence for an attack-beating.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @David In TN
  253. Truth says:
    @Alden

    Aldey, gurl, you done made Tilly open a can’a whoopazz on ya’ now…

    • Replies: @Alden
  254. Truth says:
    @attilathehen

    …She might still be into Asian poontang though, it seems to be an epidemic amongst the whytefolk..

  255. Precious says:
    @S

    I think the OJ Simpson robbery trial had ten white people and two Hispanics. Two blacks were selected as alternate jurors and two blacks from the jury pool were dismissed by the DA for “race neutral” reasons.

    • Replies: @S
    , @Alden
  256. Alden says:
    @Feryl

    Crime starts to fall about 15 years after a critical mass of black and Hispanic women abort their criminal spawn. Crime rates rise and fall depending on the number of 14 to 45 yr old black and Hispanic men in the population.

    That’s all folks.

    Pornography, music, popular culture all those things the fuddy duddies write about mean nothing. Sex race and age determine crime rates.

  257. S says:
    @Precious

    Thanks for the information. That is interesting.

    A bit more from the New York Times regarding the 1997 civil case guilty verdict linked below:

    https://www.nytimes.com/1997/02/11/us/jury-decides-simpson-must-pay-25-million-in-punitive-award.html

    • Replies: @Alden
  258. Alden says:
    @Truth

    Read the post. Chinese students rioted about black Africans harassing Chinese girls a few years before Tiananmen Square. Did I write the 2 events were connected? No

    I always assumed Tiananmen was a staged event by the Chinese government for some purpose. But then I’m a cynic and assume many events are staged. Tiananmen was along time ago and China is China. China does what it does always has and always will.

    • Replies: @Truth
  259. Alden says:
    @Truth

    We’s been fighting since she was Betty on Kevin Macdonald’s site.

  260. Alden says:
    @attilathehen

    If I were a lesbian I might be interested in Asian women. Sexually, I’m mostly attracted to tall thin blue eyed blond men with high cheekbones and thin faces. I don’t like wimpy nerds. I don’t like aggressive bully types either. I prefer the pretty bad boy type I guess. That’s my husband, still pretty and still a bad boy after all these years. And thanks be to God, our girls look like him, actually his Nordic goddess mother.

    Asian men. I love that thick black beautiful hair. I don’t like round faces, but an Asian man with a thin face and longish pretty hair I find very attractive. I find good looking men of all races attractive.

  261. Alden says:
    @Truth

    Are you new? I’m an extreme White nationalist. Pls explain about the 1,200 Whites killed daily.

    • Replies: @Truth
  262. Alden says:
    @Precious

    The robbery trial was in a Nevada county that had few blacks. The double nurder trial was in the only courthouse in Los Angeles county that had many blacks. That jury ended up 10 blacks who had always planned to find him not guilty no matter how many Whites he murdered. LA county was about 10 percent black at the time. The jury was about 80 percent black.

    The entire trial was a set up arranged to find him not guilty. It was just 2 years after the RodneyKing riots. The black/Jewish leadership went to the Mayor, district attorney, county supervisors and council critters and laid down the law. Find OJ not guilty or we will riot again

    The city and county caved in under the threat. But the city&county fought back by ending affirmative action for blacks and using Hispanic immigrants to drive them out of both city and county.
    And as the blacks fled before the Hispanics, the crime rate went way way down. The Jews even got rid of the main instigator of theRodney King riots, billionaire Marxist White hating Stanley Sheinbaum by kicking him off most of his jewishcommunity Mr Buttinsky groups.

    The blacks got OJ off on 2 murders. But they lost because the powers that be noticed real estate prices stagnating after the OJ trial. So they arranged to replace the blacks with the far more civilized and competent Hispanics. It’s so nice to go to the post office or other government building and not be snarled at by a vicious 300 of black woman.

  263. Alden says:
    @Precious

    Weren’t they charged with great bodily injury and attempted murder as well as rape? They should have been.

    • Replies: @Precious
  264. Alden says:
    @Truth

    It was great bodily injury and attempted murder. For several days the Drs thought she would die.

    • Agree: AceDeuce
    • Replies: @Truth
    , @AceDeuce
  265. Alden says:
    @Mary

    Till, a 5’8 160 pound animal attempted to rape a 5’2 100 of woman. He lay in wait outside till the store was empty and she was closing up. Then he attacked and she had to threaten him with a gun.

    Her husband rightly executed the animal and prevented the animal Till from becoming a serial rapist like his father and spawning morerapists. Good for the Brady’s. Had he not executed the animal there would have been hundreds of rapes by the Till descendants by now.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Crimson2
  266. Alden says:
    @Thomm

    Who’s Truth, your uncle who lets you live in his garden shed for $1,500 a month?

  267. Alden says:
    @S

    Simpson has never paid a penny of that award. His pension can’t be used to pay the Goldman’s. It’s about $30,000 a month. His children now grown want nothing to do with their White mother’s relatives.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @jeff stryker
  268. Alden says:

    Aren’t Truth and Thomm the same person?

    • Replies: @Truth
  269. @William Badwhite

    Subcontinentals are not white

    Thomm is actually white. In fact, you wigs need to make your minds up. You guys have called him everything. I’ve seen people accusing him of him being Indian, black, wigger, or a jew. He’s white.
    We Subcontinentals are predominantly caucasians with some austroloid

    • Agree: Thomm
    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  270. Truth says:
    @Alden

    Estimated abortion numbers.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  271. Truth says:
    @Alden

    And they served 7 years, which in the pre-Clintonian era, is roughly what a 15- year old got for beating someone up.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  272. Truth says:
    @Alden

    Why didn’t all of you octogenarian eyewitnesses go to the jury 70 years ago.?

  273. Truth says:
    @Alden

    Oh, so let me see if I get this straight; two groups of college students got into a fight over girls and jealousy, and CNN in its neverending anti-white nefariousness, criminally shielded us, in Peoria, Il., from this earth-shattering global news event?

    That’s funny, I remember a few occasions at my university were a few groups of guys got into fights over girls and jealousy, and I don’t remember Ted Turner sending helicopters…

    • Replies: @Alden
  274. @Truth

    They didn’t get a life sentence Stupid.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  275. Truth says:
    @Alden

    No. That’s an insult to Thomm!

  276. Truth says:
    @Alden

    Wow!

    You were at the Emmit Till whistle event..

    The Chinese University riot..

    The Central Park 5 mugging..

    And you are related to the Brown family…

    OK, so tell me, that day back in 1776, why did John Hancock sign his name so large?

    • LOL: Biff
  277. @Alden

    OJ’s Guilt

    Ron Goldman was a black belt ex-bouncer karate expert at 26 in fairly top physical condition.

    How could an arthritic ex-athlete of 47 years old whose knee was so badly damaged he could barely knock golf clubs around hold Goldman and slit his throat? OJ might have been a fairly good football player in 1969 but by 1994 he in and out of the hospital for knee and shoulder injuries.

    And yet he overpowered a karate expert in top shape who was bigger than he was?

    Evidence shows Ron Goldman delivered at least one kick to his assailant…OJ had no marks on him.

    There was no blood in OJ’s car.

    My feeling has always been that OJ DIDN’T DO IT HIMSELF but hired some blacks to do it for him (More than one) and then went over to the scene of the crime to simply look at it.

    Secondly, if Jews are so all-powerful, why wasn’t OJ convicted by a Jewish prosecutor for killing a Jewish man?

    • Replies: @eah
    , @Alden
    , @Alden
  278. Sean says:
    @Nicholas Stix

    Correction, the only juror who expressed doubts about their guilt during the deliberations was gay.
    I suppose it is possible that after the Five committed a gang rape they would go on to publically attack people, instead of getting out of the area. There were about thirty in the initial group, but they saw a police car and split up. It seems unlikely that they would have started with a gang rape then split up for beatings, especially if as seems to be being argued the joggers serious injuries were inflicted by Reyes after they left and for all they knew she could be screaming for help. The beatings were of white men and couples as such (whitey as an insult was shouted at the victims). Dinner party opinion about thiry males having assaulted her notwithstanding, the semen from anyone else but Reyes was lacking.

    The five were granted a re-trial on the basis of the new evidence which was mainly DNA, not Reyes confession. I believe the standard for bringing a prosecution is that one can probabally win it and I really don’t see how the prosecutors faced with trying the rape charges again could have hoped to repeated the feat of getting convictions for the rape given the much stronger hand the defence would have . The defence would simply have argued the rape was done by a proven rapist and murderer who had raped another young woman in the park days before and went on to commit murder and other rapes in the area around the park, and whose DNA was the only one in and on the victim, and who had confessed to doing it alone.

    The prosecution would have had the Five’s confessions to rape I hear you say, and no one makes incriminating statement to police about something like that unless they are guilty. Yes and no. None of the five admitted to actual rape, their confessions, which did not match as to who did what, were all to having helped hold down the jogger while someone else raped her.

    They were lied to that there was cast iron evidence against them and they were going to prison a very long time, put under stress and told they could go home if they were only on the fringe of the thing and just said what happened. It’s a tried and formerly trusted methodology called the Reid technique. A quarter of DNA exonerations have been of people who had ‘confessed’.

  279. syonredux says:
    @Truth

    I forgot about the “dear boy” era. Whoa was that cringeworthy.

    A golden age……now sadly departed…..Perhaps I should revive it….

    (Oh great. Another genius who believed that someone laid under a tank because someone else was getting laid…)

    …..Well, when the someone else is an alien….

    Take a little advice from me and get your mind off Dikimbe’s cack.

    Isn’t that more your line of country…..

    • Replies: @Truth
  280. @Truth

    TRUTH

    Remember the Sean Penn film BAD BOYS about the 16 year old Irish-American stick-up artist who goes to a Reformatory? During sentencing, the judge tells him “However, you are protected by the law, your status as a juvenile prevents me from imposing the punishment you deserve”

    Prior to Clinton, they could only hold juveniles until their 21st birthday.

    • Agree: Truth
    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  281. @BengaliCanadianDude

    Bengali are more like Nepalese than Dravidian.

    Or Tibetan. You can see it their slanted eyes.

  282. @David In TN

    Juvenile killers used to be released on their 21st birthday. Clinton changed the law. Watch BAD BOYS. In the past, violent teens were stuck in reform schools like the one Penn was sent to for whatever period until their 21st birthday and could not be tried as adults.

    Watching that film now is a reminder of that. The Jewish cellmate of Penn’s firebombed a bowling alley. Penn himself, who is released at the end of the movie, batters two older inmates nearly to death with an improvised cosh (The infamous cola scene).

    These days, those kids would be in adult prisons for life. But back in the eighties, they went off to Reform schools for five years.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    , @Alden
  283. @attilathehen

    ATTILA

    What is with your obsession with Asian women, Attila? You have a one-track mind.

    Let me run it down for you…

    1) White women have high expectations. At the very least, you have to mortgage a house. You’ll work all the time just to make house payments.

    2) A nice bungalow in Asia, like mine, only costs $40,000. If my wife and I split up, I can walk away from that with no regrets. No alimony and no child support. She keeps the house.

    3) Weather is warm and mild in Asia.

    4) I don’t have to worry about my kids going to lousy public schools. I can afford decent private schools here.

    5) You may have gone to college but your husband, if you even have one, probably cannot afford to send your children to college. It is too expensive and you are clearly on the lower side of middle class.

    6) Lots of white women are sexually unsatisfied because they have a big cavern of a vagina and unless a man is 11 inches he cannot satisfy her. With a Chinese woman, the average white guy is like John Holmes and she always has a climax.

    7) I don’t have to worry about property value in Asia. Mestizos, blacks and rednecks won’t lower it.

    8) I don’t really want to live in Southeast Michigan’s rust belt anyhow. Or in America in general. Because as a lower middle class white male it is either the sticks or lower-income urban living with the attendant dangers of blacks and Mestizos or meth-addicted tweaker rednecks.

    9) White women are rare in Asia. None of them live there. A few visit but want to get back to the US for whatever reason. Perhaps because white women care more about communities, homes, some television show…white men care about ease of life, financial opportunity, climate and sex. And affordability.

    So there is your answer. It is coming from a lower middle class (As an adult) white male from Southeast Michigan.

    • Replies: @Alden
  284. Crimson2 says:
    @Rurik

    Kobe Bryant has admitted to brutally raping a white girl, and yet he’s treated like a hero today.

    Are you retarded?

    • Troll: Rurik
  285. @jeff stryker

    TRUTH

    One does not get a feeling that O’Brien or Paco Moreno are going to be much improved when they get out of that juvenile facility.

    Warren Jerome is released on his 21st birthday after Penn has nearly bludgeoned him to death and he has recovered. A hardened rapist who has also had his arm broken in a vicious (If self defense) battering by a pillowcase filled with RC cans. He’s only out of Rainford Reform school for a few weeks before robbing a liquor store and being shot dead.

    Watching the film post-Clinton Superpredator sentencing for juveniles is stark. The Jewish kid kills three people in a firebombing and later seriously injures the Scandinavian hick psycho with a fertilizer bomb. But he’ll be out by age 21. So will the Italian rapist who sells drugs in the facility. They’ll all be out.

    Today you watch the film and scratch your head. Those kids would be doing life these days.

  286. Crimson2 says:
    @Alden

    Luckily we don’t have to worry about incels like you having ancestors.

    • Replies: @JSM
    , @Alden
    , @Twodees Partain
  287. vinteuil says:
    @Ron Unz

    Reply to Ron Unz @ 5:06 p.m. GMT, June 13, 2019:

    The PRC government itself claimed that 300 or more people were killed in the violent rioting elsewhere in Beijing, with quite a number of them being soldiers, burned to death by Molotov Cocktails and that sort of thing. That sounds pretty plausible to me. Maybe the true figure was 500— who knows? But as far as I can tell, there’s no evidence the PRC claims were false

    Well, how could any such evidence ever come to light, given that the PRC permits no independent inquiry into the matter?

    Honestly, RKU – your skepticism concerning what you’re told by the American government & MSM does you great credit. But your credulity when it comes to what you’re told by their Chinese equivalents does not.

    • Agree: Hail
  288. @Alden

    to unleash the black plague

    The black plague was unleashed in 1619.

    • Replies: @Alden
  289. @Truth

    Not every white woman at the clinic is aborting a white baby.

    Alden has a blind spot on this issue. Every abortion is eugenic, by definition, but that doesn’t mean any are justified.

    • LOL: eah
    • Replies: @Truth
  290. eah says:
    @jeff stryker

    Goldman had numerous injuries described as defensive in the autopsy report, including ones inflicted with a knife — since no one saw what happened (eg perhaps Goldman was caught unaware, and suffered a fatal wound relatively quickly), a reasonable conclusion is that he didn’t defend himself well enough against Simpson, who had a knife, and was still a big strong guy.

    Secondly, if Jews are so all-powerful, why wasn’t OJ convicted by a Jewish prosecutor for killing a Jewish man?

    I’ll take “Because OJ had smarter Jew lawyers and a jury full of dumb Blacks and women who couldn’t follow a rational argument nor appreciate the value of DNA evidence for $500 Alex”

    What a dirtbag — if you have some spare time, maybe you can help Simpson by looking for the “real killer” in Asia (or wherever you live).

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @David In TN
  291. Whitewolf says:
    @Ron Unz

    So given those particular two examples, I’d have to say that the Chinese MSM is vastly less dishonest than the American MSM…

    With a strict hierarchy and control there there’s no real need for them to run bs narratives 24/7 so it wouldn’t surprise me. The Chinese would have to be way less gullible than White people too so it would be much harder to pull off US style MSM nonsense there if they wanted to go down that road.

  292. “Penn…batters two..inmates…with (a) cosh.” Did he get that cosh from Liam Neeson?

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  293. @jack daniels

    The foundation of the healthiest society this world has ever known, and, indeed, the principle most necessary for civilized behavior, is lifelong monogamy based on marriage unviolated by cheating or divorce. Only Jesus among the founders of the world’s “great religions” mandated this behavior.

    It certainly appears Farrakhan not only preaches this respect for the sanctity of marriage, but has lived it to this day with the wife he left college to support sixty five years ago.

    No doubt also that this statement you make is true, jack daniels:

    NOI has done more than its share of calling on blacks to take responsibility and live by sound rules.

    The NOI Research Group’s scholarly series The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews (which first came to this reader’s awareness via this very site The Unz Review) is in my opinion the key to unlock the chains of the mandatory dishonesty called “PC”, “political correctness”, the Jew-mandated fib code which stifles truth because truth is the only thing that can make all men free and Jews want all of us dead (if white) or enslaved as they did the black man and his people for the first few hundreds of years here in the New World.

    Whites in the US have not been physically afraid of Jew violence to the extreme that black criminal violence has been experienced. So Jews have promoted the idea of white racism to incite blacks against whites AS (((THEIR))) METHOD FOR INSTILLING FEAR IN WHITES TO SCARE THEM INTO PC COMPLIANCE. So Jews love violent black criminality as (((their))) way of keeping whites docile and have no regard that the lives most often ruined by black criminality are black, both victims and perps. Just like Jews promote abortion as part of their #JEW$4whiteGENOCIDE initiative and could not care less that (((their))) insistence on the legality of abortion results in most black babies in major cities being murdered instead of being born.

    This is the Jew program of using blacks as (((their))) golem to undermine whites. NOI’s fearless resistance to #JEW.TYRANNY and their unfettered willingness to #NAMEtheJEW without bowing to intimidation like the cowards left and right do, is THE BIG THREAT TO PC & AMERICA’S GREATEST CURRENT HOPE FOR TRUTH.

    All that is why this tweet is counter-productive for all of us black and white:

    and re-tweeting these:

    • Replies: @Alden
  294. @obwandiyag

    Can you give us the executive summary,my man?

  295. Rich says:
    @Truth

    Now, now Truthie,don’t you think you reveal yourself just a bit by bringing up my “rear end “? Why are you so ashamed of your people’s proclivities? Especially in this modern era of “tolerance “? But, if you want to stay safely nestled in your closet out there in the desert, I’ll leave you to it. But anyone with a Google machine can look it up.

  296. @Father O'Hara

    A cosh is an improvised weapon consisting of a sock, case or sack filled with hard objects. It was a fairly common reform school weapon (The film SCUM also depicted a similar use of a sock and pool balls) and it is what killed Whitey Bulger.

    Sorry, I don’t get the reference to Liam Neeson. You’ve completely lost me.

  297. Rurik says:
    @S

    As part of the preparation for the case they held mock trials and (to his credit) acknowledged finding that none of the Black mock jurors, despite whatever strong evidence they had presented to them linking OJ to the two murders, up to and including to the point of a hypothetical live video of OJ committing the act, would convict OJ. It didn’t matter.

    I remember being very happy the day OJ was acquitted. I felt a distinct exaltation at the verdict.

    Obviously, he was guilty, and yes, I felt some compassion for the families of the murdered, but as for all the angst and outrage of the white people I saw on TV all crying and in disbelief, I was gleefully mocking them.

    ‘Look at what you’ve wrought, white America! With your sanctimonious abasement to all things black. This was a moment when a working class white guy could laugh in their faces, having endured their ‘solution’ to ‘racism’ all my life; Affirmative Action, where white America expunged their sins and their guilt upon the most powerless segment of society in order to feel good about themselves. ‘Fuck you’ was my sentiment then, and ‘fuck you’ was my sentiment over the obviously race-based verdict. I was thrilled. The chickens had come home to roost, and I loved the smell of their droppings on those crying, outraged faces of white America.

    The ‘not guilty’ verdict was as much a vote of guilty to progressive, liberal values as it was a slap in the face to the white race itself. The left had always considered a nice, solid slap in the face to working class white men, as the perfect ‘solution’ to the exigencies of (obvious) racial differences, that made them feel as tho they’d made amends, not only for the intractable differences between the races, but also for the guilt they felt over noticing it. That guilt was being expunged by using working class white men as their sacrificial whipping boy. Very convenient that. But not so much when the Negro actually hacks a progressive liberal white women’s head off, and butchers her Jewish lover.

    Nevertheless, what was the fallout? An insipid daughter of OJ’s best buddy, with him during the iconic Bronco chase, is exalted to American royalty because she has a penchant for black men, a grotesquely augmented ass, her father-in-law is a hideous abomination of (White) manhood, and the rest of her family are as vapid and deliriously banal and offensive as the rest of our ((pop culture)).

    Weeeeeee!

    • Agree: S
    • Replies: @S
    , @Alden
    , @Alden
  298. Truth says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Ok. So instead of 1200 white babies a day, lets say 950?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  299. S says:
    @Rurik

    The ‘not guilty’ verdict was as much a vote of guilty to progressive, liberal values as it was a slap in the face to the white race itself.

    Very well stated and true.

  300. Alden says:
    @jeff stryker

    Whatever. The killer whoever he was managed to stab Goldman it n the femoral artery. An artery goes straight from the heart to the groun and divides to go down each leg. The artery isn’t buried in muscle and fat. It’s close to the skin. A slash severing that artery can cause death within minutes as the blood just bursts out. It’s a classic bull fighters death. Good move for a small knife fighter against a tall opponent. Autopsy showed Nicole died a bit before Goldman. Coroner thought Goldman walked into the first murder and the killer got him in the femur artery before Goldman started to fight.

    I drive by that house every so often. There is a fence with bushes on either side next to front step. Goldman was backed up against that fence as he bled to death very very quickly. He couldn’t escape and he bled to death before the killer finished stabbing him. Blood can spurt 2 or more feet out of that artery, the blood pumps right out of the heart.

    And who knows if OJ really had bad knees? That’s standard defense tactics. Kicks and punches are no defense against a slashed femur artery.

    OJ was huge in those days. I saw him around a few times. Shoulders so wide one wonders how he’d get through the average inside door. Monstrous huge hands.

    Men make fun of all those women’s self defense karate classes. They are correct. There’s a major difference between a karate class and fighting off an adrenaline testosterone overdosed attacker. That applies to men who’ve never fought anywhere but a karate class as much as to women.

    The first knife cut got the femoral artery and it was all over for Goldman even if the attacker had only made that one cut.

    Jew Stanley Shienbaum, Marxist billionaire married to the Warner studio fortune ruled Los Angeles Jews at the time. Sheinbaum was the major instigator or the Rodney King riots by the way. One Jewish prosecutor could not possibly have prevailed against Sheinbaum. It wasn’t a real trial anyway. Sheinbaum and the black leadership who had led the Rodney King riots threatened an even worse riot if OJ were found guilty. OJ had a Jewish attorney on his side remember, Bob Shapiro who was a lot more of a self identifying Jew than Clark.

    The trial was a farce. Clark and Darden were told to lose by selecting 10 of 12 black jurors.

    But the blacks lost in the end. As soon as the trial was over the black exodus began and Hispanics took over the black neighborhoods and the black affirmative action government jobs.

    Had OJ hired killers they would have used guns, not a kitchen knife: Had OJ planned to kill Nicole, he would have gone to a gun show and bought a gun and learned how to shoot: But a kitchen knife?

    That’s amateur domestic violence standard rage against an ex wife. Goldman just walked into the murder scene. 3 minutes later and the killer would have been gone:

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  301. JSM says:
    @Crimson2

    “Are you retarded?” asks Crimson2 of Rurik.

    “Are YOU retarded?” asks JSM of Crimson2, because, yes, sir incels do have ancestors — or they wouldn’t be here posting. Anyone who’s NOT retarded knows that incels don’t beget descendants.

    297. Crimson2 says:
    June 14, 2019 at 5:54 am GMT
    @Alden

    Luckily we don’t have to worry about incels like you having ancestors.

  302. Alden says:
    @jeff stryker

    Goldman’s Throat wasn’t slit. There was one killing slash in the femoral artery and a lot of cuts done until Goldman collapsed and the killer knew he was dead. Where did you get the idea Goldman was held down and his throat slit?

    Nicole’s throat was slashed so many times she was almost decapitated:

    Karate classes are highly over rated as self defense, especially against OJ who was twice as wide as Goldman had a weapon and was in full beserker kamikaze adrenaline testosterone overdose domestic violence mode: it’s amazing what a person can do when enraged and the adrenaline is flowing.

    Don’t bring a karate kick to a knife fight.

    • Replies: @David In TN
  303. Alden says:
    @Rurik

    I felt that way too. Kardashian wasn’t in the Bronco chase. That was Al Crowley. Kardashian was the one who casually carried a suitcase away that some say contained the knife and or bloody clothes. Why OJ would have carried the knife to Chicago and back I don’t know. But that’s the kind of thing amateur domestic violence killers do. They act impulsively when they’re not thinking straight. They forget about getting rid of the body and evidence

    When White women exclaimed and carried on, I just told them “ it was a majority black woman jury. What did you expect?”

    Unfortunately a White man who had nothing to do with OI died. But the blacks lost big in Los Angeles being replaced by more civilized Hispanics both in affirmative action jobs and neighborhoods.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
    , @Rurik
  304. @Precious

    problem is they were charged with rape. not as accessories. yet out of all 5 suspects not a single sample links them to to the evidence found at the scene. so far only a man who was not initially linked to the crime was found to match semen samples found on victim. unidentified DNA means there were other rapists involved. that would bring us to a total of at minimum 7/8 attackers. how do we determine who beat her? CP5 if present might not have committed a felonious crime. we also don’t know if their confessions were sincere. CP5 = quite possibly totally innocent. the persons most directly responsible for her injuries were likely her rapists, only one haa been identified.

    • Replies: @Precious
  305. @Alden

    Leo Frank didn’t rape or murder anyone. The actual perp was the gentile who falsely accused Frank. But what do you care about facts or justice?

  306. Truth says:
    @syonredux

    Syon, with all possible respect:

    You willfully choose a tag-line that would have made Charles Nelson Reilly proud.

    You display a nonstop interest in where black men stick their cacks.

    And you continually post a picture of the same “person of questionable gender.” I would estimate, 20 or so times now.

    You are a unique one indeed.

    • Replies: @syonredux
  307. Alden says:
    @eah

    I’ll post this again. The coroner found that Goldman’s femur artery was probably slashed first and he bled to death as OJ continued to cut him and Goldman tried to defend himself as he was dying. Domestic violence killings aren’t cold blooded well planned murder. They aren’t robberies gone wrong either. A man or woman filled with massive doses of adrenaline and testosterone and rage can do incredible things.

    Don’t bring a karate kick to a knife fight.

  308. @Alden

    For my money, it was an Irish-Catholic named Bailey who managed to win the case by diverting the focus of the trial to Fuhrman. No other reason and no other attorney.

    We can blame the old-guard East Coast Irish Democrats from Boston, of which Bailey was the one of the last. In a way, his victory for OJ was a final Irish-Catholic kiss of death to segregation that started with the Kennedy clan.

    As for LA unsolved celebrity murders, there have been a bunch of them and Jews were always involved.

    John Holmes and Wonderland-supposedly the killers who wielded the pipes sent by Nash were Jews in the Israeli mafia.

    Dorothy Stratton and Paul Snider’s mysterious suicide.

    I’d agree that time and again in LA with homicides where someone miraculously gets off it involves Jews. Whether as victims or not.

    But here is a question.

    Why, now, aren’t Jewish enabling Goldman to get his money out of OJ’s estate?

    • Replies: @Alden
  309. Alden says:
    @Crimson2

    We have 4 children and 8 grandchildren. How many do you have?

  310. Alden says:
    @jeff stryker

    You did the right thing. American Whites are either suicidal or the elite Whites are bent on eradicating the rest of us. There’s nothing one White can do but take care of him or herself.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  311. @Alden

    ALDEN

    According to Furhman, OJ grabbed Goldman from behind in a choke-hold after leaping out of the bushes.

    At any rate, any homicide involving Jews in LA is always mysteriously unsolved. Like the Wonderland case.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Alden
  312. @Nicholas Stix

    STIX

    That is not quite true. Frank had a long history of sexually harassing female employees and his black janitor confessed as accessory.

    Could he have been innocent? Possibly. But there was evidence that he wasn’t.

    • Replies: @Alden
  313. @jeff stryker

    You put a lot of weight on what you see in movies.

  314. Alden says:
    @jeff stryker

    Bailey came out of retirement and just sat around. The lead attorneys were Johnny Cochran for the showmanship and trial skills and super defense attorney Barry Scheck for strategy and preparation. The two would be an unbeatable combination in any litigation. Others were Carl Douglas, Bob Kardashian Peter Neufeld and Gerald Uelmen. I think Uelmen was a lawschool professor. Not going to look it up. Bailey did nothing.

    It was prosecutor Marcia Clark who attacked Fuhrman. She tore him apart and then told those black women they should believe Fuhrmsn

    Furhman only there abour3 hours anyway, only in charge less than that till the lead detectives got there.

    The trial was fixed from the day the Mayor and district attorney Garcetti caved into threats of another Rodney King riots and decided to hold the trial downtown in a courthouse that was part of the West Adams South Central sky’s row downtown blackest judicial courthouse district in the entire county.

    That ensured a heavily black jury pool. Darden and Clark were instructed to seat as many black jurors as possible. They were rewarded.

    Clark quit the DA’s is ffice got a 4 million dollar book deal. Half for taxes, a million for a splendid house far from downtown Los Angeles and a million to live on and enjoy being a mother and lady of leisure for a while. She’s now practicing law again.

    Darden got a book deal too and a do nothing job with a major Jewish firm in century city.

    The verdict had nothing to do with the evidence the investigators and the abilities of defense and prosecution attorneys. It was all arranged between the Mayor, DA Garcetti, Stanley Sheinbaum and the same black leadership who instigated the King riots 2 years before

  315. Alden says:
    @jeff stryker

    Furhman wasn’t the medical examiner. The coroner report clearly states Goldman was ex sanguinated from that first thigh slash No adult could have hidden in those bushes. There is less than a foot of plants in front of that fence. No one, especially OJ whose shoulders look about 4 feet wide could hide in those or any of the small thin bushes around Nicole’s house

    The space between the walkway and the fence is about 3 square feet. It’s a bare space to except for the thin bushes against the fence, the fence and bushes as they were then were about 4 feet tall. Much too short for a tall man like OJ to hide.

  316. Alden says:
    @jeff stryker

    Wonderland victim was a Lebanese drug dealer slave owner and pimp. There are some Israeli criminals in Los Angeles. I doubt they are a real mafia.

    There are a lot of Jews in Los Angeles. They’re involved in everything . Why do you always get the discussion around to pornography?

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
    , @AceDeuce
  317. @Alden

    ALDEN

    …When America’s Marie Antoinette and closest thing to royalty is some Armenian whore whose Dad was the crooked lawyer who at the very least disposed of evidence of Nicole and Ron’s murder and possibly was even more involved in the murder than that…there is something wrong with a culture.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Alden
    , @Alden
  318. Alden says:
    @jeff stryker

    The girls, and they were girls as young as 10 had a survival tactic. “ Never be alone with Mr Frank”

    The Jewish rules about the sex lives of married couples make it difficult for husbands to be faithful.

    Like Dreyfus, no one would have made a big deal out of Frank’s religion until his NYC business partners decided to defend him on the grounds of anti Semitism. It was a real eye opener. The Jews of America’s attitude was how dare those filthy infidels arrest a Jewish man for using one of his slave girls. Her death was her fault for resisting him. It’s a good thing Mary was only 12. Were she 14 the Jews would have trashed her as a prostitute. As it was, she, the other factory workers and her family were poor White trash.

    Your constant references to poor White trash is the main reason many of us assume you’re a supremacist Jew. Mary Phagn her family and fellow workers were the people you constantly denigrate,

    • Replies: @David In TN
  319. Alden says:
    @jeff stryker

    Please stop commenting about things of which you know nothing. Juvenile ends at 18, not 21. Many states have now and had then young offenders facilities for 16 to 25 year olds. Few offenders under 18 are sentenced to long terms as adults. It’s just the monsters who commit horrible crimes and get in the news.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  320. Alden says:
    @jeff stryker

    No argument with that.

    I doubt very much that Kardashian or any other hangers on had anything to do with the murder.

    Most Americans pay no attention to the Kardashians. They’re like your beloved porn industry, a part of America but only a part.

    The Kardashians are a prime example of the power of public relations, one of the youngest, a Jenner was worth almost a billion a month before her 21st birthday, She sells make up and doo dads on the internet. Kim’s husband is one of the ugliest men I’ve ever seen. It was a triumph to make a girl with grotesquely fat thighs and hips into a fashion and beauty icon.

    Mostly the fashion icons wear black T shirts and leggings, like every other slob.

    If you think the Kardashians are royalty maybe you need to come back to America for a while and immerse yourself in normal America

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  321. Rurik says:
    @Alden

    Kardashian was the one who casually carried a suitcase away that some say contained the knife and or bloody clothes.

    ah

    I felt that way too.

    When White women exclaimed and carried on, I just told them “ it was a majority black woman jury. What did you expect?”

    it’s the same thrill I get at seeing Jussie Smollett mock justice and thumb his nose at America.

    He’s black, and gay!

    Of course he can shit in your faces, and the PTB will protect him. Your job is to bow down for the crime that didn’t happen, because it could have! And we all know working class white guys don’t want to be gay, or have their children taught about fisting and transgender, or see their daughters have black babies, (the racist, homophobic, deplorable, irredeemable bigots!) And so it doesn’t matter if what happened to Jussie was true or not, because it could have been!!!

    More here on way overdue liberal comeuppance:

    California moves to let felons serve on juries

    https://www.ocregister.com/2019/06/13/california-moves-to-let-felons-serve-on-juries/

    Good! I say.

    the faster California descends into a dystopian hell on earth, the better.

    Hopefully every last self-respecting, -Affirmative Action target- White guy and gal has long since moved out of that doomed state. So now let them all embrace what they wish for. Their diversity utopia!

    If you’re that progressive liberal guy, but who’s fallen behind on his child support, being as an H1B Visa Indian has taken your tech job for half the wages, and your ex-wife is shacked up with a Black Muslim, who’s teaching your children how evil you and (especially) they are.. And you walked to a job interview this morning but stepped in human excrement on the way, and couldn’t quite get the smell off your shoes, because the only public bathroom was full of junkies and migrants and zombies of every stripe.. so that when you get home, the police were waiting for you, due to the unpaid child support, and now you go to court, and see that the citizens on the jury are felons and crack heads and feminists and other progressive liberal men like yourself, who’re outraged that the prisons are full of minorities way out of proportion to the general population, and so that to remedy this unacceptable situation, certain crimes must be treated more harshly than others, depending on the race of the ‘criminal’. The gavel comes down, with eighteen months state prison. That should do its part in reducing the racial gap in the California prison system.

    http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/poems_copybook.htm

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Reg Cæsar
    , @Alden
  322. Rurik says:
    @Rurik

    who’s teaching your [white] children how evil you and (especially) they are..

  323. When all else fails ——

    fall back on the case of Mr. Orenthal Simpson . . .

    Laughing

    predictable.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  324. @Alden

    ALDEN

    Are you dyslexic? I said that juveniles sentenced under the age of 18 could only be held until their 21st birthday in most states. At least where I am from.

    Every offender these days under 18 who commits a murder is sentenced as an adult.

    • Replies: @Alden
  325. @Alden

    There is nothing normal about California. My brother lived there for 20 years, having fled Michigan relatively young in life back when California was still the Golden shore and not a carnival of multicultural horrors run by Mexican cartels.

    Since your references indicate, sort of, that you live in Los Angeles there is nothing normal about what surrounds you.

    • Replies: @Alden
  326. @Alden

    ALDEN

    The thugs sent by Nash to kill the Wonderland Gang were purportedly Israeli mafia.

    Why does everything come back to porn when I talk about California? It is all people do out there, apart from having blow habits for recreation the size of the Qatar GDP.

    My brother actually lived in Yorba Linda-aka the Orange Curtain. But Mestizos destroyed this as well.

  327. @Truth

    Ok. So instead of 1200 white babies a day, lets say 950?

    No, I go for zero. Black babies, too.

    You’d think 45 years of legal elective abortion having no discernable positive demographic effect for anybody, let alone us, might sink into some skulls. But it doesn’t. You see the same lame claims here that you did in the mainstream press and politics in 1970.

    • Replies: @Truth
  328. @EliteCommInc.

    fall back on the case of Mr. Orenthal Simpson . . .

    Orenthal is too close to Oriental. That name has to go, like Lake Calhoun’s.

  329. @Rurik

    California moves to let felons serve on juries

    The existing pool is too thin? That’s pretty desperate.

    But note the use of the word let. Not make. That speaks volumes. Will it be “permissive” jury service, as women once had in many states? They could opt out, and in some weren’t called unless they had opted in. Tampa’s jury pool in the 1961 Carolyn Hoyt Supreme Court case was 1% female.

    So will felons a) have to opt in; b) be allowed to opt out; or c) have to suck it up like everyone else?

    And will they want to serve? Is it worth a short break from the can? You’re just trapped in different kind of cell, with eleven others.

    What will Ruth Bader Ginsburg have to say about all this? She was so mortified by the Hoyt decision that she was eventually instrumental in the ending of both the opt-in and 0pt-out systems.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duren_v._Missouri
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_v._Louisiana
    EDWARDS v. HEALY
    EDWARDS v. HEALY
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoyt_v._Florida

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Rurik
  330. AceDeuce says:
    @Crimson2

    “The woman”????? You mean Caroline Bryant? You don’t even know her name. LOL.

    I know about that BS you’re talking about. The sole source for that supposed “admission” is Timothy Tyson, a white SJW and professor of blackety black black studies or some such at Duke. He’s rabidly anti-white, and was one of the ringleaders against the Duke lacrosse players. LMAO. I wouldn’t believe him if he said water was wet. I sure as hell wouldn’t believe any anti-white/pro-black crap he said.

    What else you got? Some new exclusive scoop of Kavanaugh’s wrongdoing put forth by Maizie Hirono?

    Cucks like you believe anything you’re told. That’s the trouble.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Alden
  331. AceDeuce says:
    @Alden

    The drug dealer (Nash) wasn’t the victim of Wonderland. per se. He was robbed by some people who lived in the house on Wonderland, and was probably the person who got revenge by killing them.

    • Replies: @Alden
  332. Alden says:
    @Nicholas Stix

    What goy accused Frank? Write the proper word for us. Not gentile , but goy, sub human beast of burden put on earth to serve the chosen people. Now I know what you think of us.

    If you’re thinking of the black worker, the police knew right away it wasn’t a black. The murderer left his hair on her head, chest shoulders and between her legs. She had blondish light red wavy shoulder length hair and brown, not black hair between her legs.

    It was darkest brown White man’s hair was n her chest and head and black White man’s pubic hair between her legs. So from the first they knew it was a White man: Frank was the only White man in the factory that day,

    And he ran to his Rabbi first thing. The Rabbi was at Frank’s home when the police arrived shortly after the body was found.

    • Replies: @Whitewolf
  333. AceDeuce says:
    @Alden

    She was in a coma for seven weeks. She was unrecognizable when she was brought in-her family only identified her by a family heirloom piece of jewelry she was wearing that the animals hadn’t stolen from her.

    • Replies: @Alden
  334. AceDeuce says:
    @Truth

    And you were?

    I never said I was. I’ve studied the case for 40 plus years. It’s called reading. You should try it.

    • Replies: @Truth
  335. Alden says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    It’s probably because only citizens can serve on juries. Also, jurors must be able to read and understand English as that is still the official language of the courts:

    And there are fewer and fewer citizens and citizens who can understand and read English in the state.

    Blacks are citizens and can read and understand English. A lot of them are felons. With the shortage of citizens, citizen felons will have to step in.

    They won’t be in prison. They will be guys who served their time. We not be any worse than anyone else. They might be an improvement in ultra ultra liberal San Francisco. Maybe they should only serve on civil juries. Some attorneys might think they know too much about crime to serve.

  336. syonredux says:
    @Truth

    Syon, with all possible respect:

    You willfully choose a tag-line that would have made Charles Nelson Reilly proud.

    Perish the thought. Reilly was far too prole….

    You display a nonstop interest in where black men stick their cacks.

    I do? I think that you’re engaging in projection, dear boy*….

    And you continually post a picture of the same “person of questionable gender.” I would estimate, 20 or so times now.

    Merely trying to help you work through your personal issues……

    You are a unique one indeed.

    Tell me about it. Being a WASP in California is an arduous business….

    *Yes, I’m bringing it back….at least for now.You made me so nostalgic for the days of yore…

    • LOL: vinteuil
  337. @Nicholas Stix

    You know,Nick , I have thought many times thank God Leopold and Loeb murdered a Jewish kid. Had they attacked a goy they would’ve gotten away “Scot” free.

  338. Alden says:
    @jeff stryker

    Only the tough survive California. And we survive extremely well. Gold mining was pretty easy. But being a blaster in the Carson city silver mines required a lot of expertise. Stick the dynamite in a hole, light the wick and run like hell.

    Then there’s hanging upside down off the towers of the Golden Gate Bridge 14 hours a day.

    Those were easy jobs. Try working for the City & County of San Francisco completely surrounded by black Muslims other black radicals and and communist Jews want you dead.

    But we’re sitting on acres of brown gold. Oil, other minerals like borax, rice almonds pigs sheep chickens dairy and beef cattle every kind of fruit tree, California’s biggest crop, weed, apartment buildings commercial buildings who needs to learn to code when you own productive land, whether vineyards or apartment buildings?

    What Mexicans? I know they’re half the population but they don’t live anywhere near me or mine.

    You lived in the worst slum in Phoenix. Everybody I know whose parents retired to Phoenix visited them in plush retirement communities. Your brother seems to have lived in the slums of Yorba Linda.

    There’s a lot more to California than the slums of Yorba Linda: or that seedy section of the valley you spent a week.

    I get it. You hate America and we who stayed and managed to survive and thrive.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  339. @AceDeuce

    You mean Caroline Bryant? You don’t even know her name. LOL.

    Carolyn Bryant. (I’ll spare you the “LOL”.)

    She’s still alive, if anyone cares.

    Bombshell quote missing from Emmett Till tape. So did Carolyn Bryant Donham really recant?

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
  340. Alden says:
    @AceDeuce

    Thanks. It could happen to any of us, man or woman.

  341. Truth says:
    @AceDeuce

    Well, Old Sport. Reading Stormfront is not exactly going to make you educated.

    • Replies: @Alden
  342. Alden says:
    @AceDeuce

    Right, didn’t Eddie Nashrallah kill some criminals? I don’t remember anything but a few names.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  343. Alden says:
    @AceDeuce

    Good for you Bravo! Kudos! Chapeau!!!! I’ll defend Caroline Bryant against the devil himself and every White hating liberal. No one needs to falsely accuse blacks of rape.

    That’s the myth perpetrated by that satanic abomination; that White women falsely accuse innocent black men of rape.

    • Agree: AceDeuce
  344. Alden says:
    @Crimson2

    Till grabbed her. She wrestled away and managed to get her gun. When he saw the gun he ran off. Her husband and his black employees did the right thing.

    Non criminal black men are victims of black criminality in that they’re always being stopped by police because a black criminal of about the same age, size, hair color and hair style just committed a crime.

    • Replies: @Truth
  345. Alden says:
    @Truth

    It’s very true. I don’t read it because I was a probation officer and well aware that most common street crime in this country is committed by black and Hispanic men.

    • Replies: @Truth
  346. Monty says:
    @Biff

    DNA evidence is unreliable, because at this time DNA evidence was in its infancy and had only been used in one previous case in NY. Police were not trained in crime scene protocols that would preserve DNA, nor in the collection of DNA. The DNA evidence, such as it is, is sufficient to convict Reyes.

    This does not mean that had modern DNA protocols been observed, that sufficient DNA evidence would be available to convict the five.

    The five convicted men/teens were convicted on the basis of multiple corroboration of stories given in separate interrogations, with parents present. The convicted teens divilged information about the crime that was unknown to the police, indeed, the police, who were investigating multiple serious crimes in Central Park and were unaware of this vile crime, only learned of this crime from the CP5.

    The “confession” of Reyes, who is in for life regardless and who could confess to the holocaust with impunity, no more countermands the substantial evidence of guilt of the five, than my confession of guilt for having been the real murderer of Jeffrey Dahmer’s victims would absolve him of guilt.

    We are dealing with the same scum here who enabled the murderer, O J Simpson to walk free.

    • Replies: @Feryl
  347. Truth says:
    @Alden

    LOL; you got this from one of those 1950’s detective magazines with a big-breasted blonde on the cover?

    • Replies: @Rich
  348. Truth says:
    @Alden

    OK Aldey, so here’s a question. In the time you were a probation officer, how many married chick prison guards got knocked up by inmates (Whiskey, pay attention to the answer…)?

    • Replies: @Alden
  349. Thomm says:

    Regarding the crime mentioned in the article, it looks like the perfect case for…

    SHAFT!!!

    Hey, it involves black people, is in NYC, and cannot be solved by the system. Shaft is the answer.

    In theaters today, June 14 :

    With this, Richard Roundtree breaks Leonard Nimoy’s record for playing a character that appeared in the silver screen at any point across the greatest time span. 48 years.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    , @Alden
  350. Rurik says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    California moves to let felons serve on juries

    The existing pool is too thin?

    naw, it’s all about having people with the proper perspective participating.

    When a trial of any consequence, like for instance this one:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/michael-drejka-charged-florida-stand-your-ground-killing-why-wasn-n900406

    comes to trial, the PTB want to send a message to the law abiding people in society that when a First Class protected-group person slams your cracker arse onto the pavement, that your job is to beg for mercy. Not plug the thug with lead, which is what the guy on trial did.

    It doesn’t take a genius to figure out how a person on such a jury would vote, if they’re a black felon. And many felons are black, way out of proportion to their numbers in society. So what that means is the having felons sit in the jury box, is only going to advance the progressive, liberal, SJW, BLM, kosher agenda, all that much further.

    That’s
    why California wants felons in the jury box.

    • Agree: Alden, Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @utu
  351. Precious says:
    @Sam Coulton

    problem is they were charged with rape. not as accessories.

    Does New York law care?

    yet out of all 5 suspects not a single sample links them to to the evidence found at the scene. so far only a man who was not initially linked to the crime was found to match semen samples found on victim. unidentified DNA means there were other rapists involved.

    This was all brought up at their trials. They knew someone else got away with rape. And it wasn’t a problem with the jury.

    that would bring us to a total of at minimum 7/8 attackers. how do we determine who beat her? CP5 if present might not have committed a felonious crime.

    Does New York law care?

    we also don’t know if their confessions were sincere.

    You may not know, but the judge and juries considered that and were convinced their confessions were sincere. How do you know Matias Reyes’ confession that he raped her alone was sincere?

    the persons most directly responsible for her injuries were likely her rapists

    Does New York law care how directly responsible you are for an injury when assigning punishment for that injury?

    Let’s take a look at New York’s felony murder law…

    In the state of New York, the common law felony murder rule has been codified in New York Penal Law § 125.25. The New York version of the rule provides that a death occurring during the commission of certain felonies becomes second degree murder.

    The defendant has an affirmative defense if the crime was committed in a group and he or she:

    Did not actually commit, solicit, or aid the homicide, and Was not armed with a deadly weapon, and Had no reason to believe that another participant carried a deadly weapon, and Had no reason to believe that another participant intended to engage in conduct likely to cause death or serious bodily injury

    I am not seeing a “was not the most directly responsible” affirmative defense in there.

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton
  352. Precious says:
    @Alden

    I believe those were charges as well.

    The Central Park Five should be very thankful that…

    1) The white woman held on to her life by her fingernails and survived.
    2) The white doctors and nurses saved her life in time.

    If it hadn’t been for white people, they would have been charged with murder and Reyes would presumably never admit to a murder where there is no statue of limitations.

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton
  353. AceDeuce says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Sorry. Carolyn. Hectic day. Unlike you, I didn’t have to look it up, though.

    I know she’s still alive. What’s your point?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  354. AceDeuce says:
    @Thomm

    Fun fact: the character John Shaft was the creation of a white man, Ernest Tidyman.

    • Replies: @Thomm
    , @AceDeuce
  355. @AceDeuce

    Unlike you, I didn’t have to look it up, though.

    I didn’t, either. Though I did bother to double-check. Trust-but-verify applies to memory as well.

    I know she’s still alive. What’s your point?

    You and the other commenter can get it straight from the source. Tyson maybe an ass and a liar, but he did make the effort to contact her.

    You and AceDeuce can bet a chitterlings dinner on it. Invite Mrs Donham, too.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    , @Alden
  356. AceDeuce says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    No excuse on the glitch with the name-although a Google search has a few thousand hits for “Caroline Bryant” as her name. You are evidently right, and I evidently messed up. Mea culpa. I usually check everything too. Good policy. A thousand pardons.

    Now, as far as Tyson’s interview. I could tell you that I interviewed Jimmy Doolittle in the 1980s and he made a pass at me. That’s not true, but can you disprove it? I’m leery of Tyson’s veracity-he is a well-known anti-white race baiter, and I can’t believe that Mrs Bryant (Donham)’s caretakers would have agreed to him visiting her under any circumstances. A guy like him would regard her as the Antichrist, only worse. Moreover, she has been in seriously ill health for many years, and has only gotten worse.

    Tyson’s Till book came out in 2017, nine years after he supposedly interviewed her. Why didn’t he at least let his bombshell nugget/money quote out as a teaser in 2008? Maybe Mrs. Bryant was still healthy enough back then to issue a statement refuting Tyson’s claims, or maybe her caretaker in 2008 had died by 2017, and could no longer refute his claims.

    I don’t agree with much of what this guy says in his column, but he seems to not be on board with Tyson either:

    https://www.clarionledger.com/story/opinion/2018/08/29/she-lied-he-died-not-so-fast-emmett-till-expert-says/1085520002/

    • Agree: Ron Unz
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Alden
  357. Rich says:
    @Nicholas Stix

    My understanding was that it was a Negro, are you disputing that? I was always a supporter of yours, have you become a Jewish supremacist?

    • Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax
  358. Rich says:
    @Truth

    Are you really going to bat for Emmit Till? You’ve lost it Truthie, Till was as guilty as you could be. Are there really no innocent Negroes? No one you guys can show? Terrible.

    • Agree: AceDeuce
    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Alden
  359. Hail says: • Website
    @Daniel H

    At this point we should stop referring the the Chinese regime as Communist.

    What would you propose as a replacement term?

    • Replies: @Alden
  360. @AceDeuce

    I meant “Crimson2”, by the way. My slip. No point in betting with yourself.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
  361. @Ron Unz

    You have tended to take a broad brush to give effect to your disillusion with the MSM.. But maybe you could interest yourself more in the nuances of MSM failures if you

    1. Consider that the usual summary reference to the Tiananmen Square affair quotes “hundreds, possibly thousands” killed [and disappeared?] at least on the BBC. You acknowledge I think that the number the CCP gives is 300. Then, as I have posted more than once, you find MSM respected presenter/interviewer Geraldine Doogue quoting 4.5 to 6 million as the Holocaust toll and no objection being made.

    2. Think of some of your quite bright, especially verbally, school contemporaries who went into journalism. Then think of the next generation of the same innocently going to the archives for routine regurgitation plus, so they are producing their quota, and more, of lines printed or broadcast. Not much high level avoidance of embarrassment or falsification. Compare the routines of perfectly decent police officers which have led to wrongful convictions just through lousy techniques well designed to obtain false confessions or shut off alternatives that a seriously bright person above all wanting to get it right would consider.

    PS I remain, for several reasons, appalled at Julian Assange’s past and present treatment by governments, though he is probably a prick, but, reluctantly I note that an anti-Assange commenter on a FT thread has pointed to the likelihood that Assange, contrary to what he has said about it, was party to Russia hacking from Democrat and Republican computers but only used the anti-Clinton stuff. The Mueller Report was quoted to that effect, presumably accurately. Should Mueller be suspected of lying about Assange? I assume not.

  362. Hail says: • Website
    @vinteuil

    To take your inquiry over-literally, I present a few results for “unz” websites on Chinese domains:

    unz.cn

    Bad Request (Invalid Hostname)

    unz.com.cn

    您是通过: unz.com.cn 访问至本站  
    QQ:53529108(不常在线) 
    E-mail:[email protected]
         
    本站日IP过万,广而告之,欢迎邮件咨询,E-mail:[email protected]

    unz.tw

    没有找到站点
    您的请求在Web服务器中没有找到对应的站点!

    ____________________

    Baidu (Chinese-Communist search engine), top result for “unz”:

    百度为您找到相关结果约1,720,000个
    The Unz Review: An Alternative Media Selection – The Unz Review

    查看此网页的中文翻译,请点击 翻译此页
    Here’s something interesting from The Unz Review… Recipient Name Recipient Email(s), separated by semicolons => M…
    http://www.unz.com/ – 百度快照

    Now try to search image.baidu.com for “tiananmen 1989,” or “free taiwan.”

  363. @Mary

    What race are you?

    • Replies: @Elizabeth
  364. Ron Unz says:
    @Nicholas Stix

    Leo Frank didn’t rape or murder anyone. The actual perp was the gentile who falsely accused Frank. But what do you care about facts or justice?

    FYI…

    http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-adl-in-american-society/

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Nicholas Stix
  365. Alden says:
    @Truth

    None in the SF city and county jail that I knew of That’s something affirmative action black sluts who sell themselves to the black inmates do.in the state and federal prisons do

    27 years nothing but majority black men like 95 or more percent till the Hispanic invasion began. I was there, you weren’t were you?

    Are you an affirmative action alternative sentencing coordinator black studies major from dipshit community college? Bet you are.

  366. Alden says:
    @Ron Unz

    Nicholas Who was the goy who falsely accused Frank? Couldn’t have been the black factory worker because they found a White man’s hair all over Mary. That hair had Franks hair tonic it too although that’s not evidence it was Franks hair.

    But one doesn’t need advanced forensic science to tell White from African hair.

  367. AceDeuce says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    I believe it’s “Carolyn2” ; ).

    Not to worry. Besides, I’m not big on chitlins. Make it fried chicken and turnip greens.

  368. Alden says:
    @Hail

    How about China, Chinese government business community manufacturing sector construction industry retail sector education, entertainment transportation exports imports Chinese whatever it is?

    • Replies: @Hail
  369. Truth says:
    @Rich

    I didnt go to bat for anyone. There is no PROOF that disputes the official story, that i am aware of. You people read some third-rate hearsay account, penned by some semi-literate on stormfront, who claims to have been the,uncle of somebody’s maid’s brother, and you start mouth-breathing.

    • Replies: @Rich
  370. @Precious

    you’re confused. new york murder law isn’t assault law, and the CP5 were acquitted of attempted murder. jurors reached a guilty verdict based on oldschool physical evidence, not the confessions of CP5 individuals. yet still, jury and judge decisions get thrown out all the time with the objectively superior evidence that is DNA. in the 21st century no one would ever be convicted of rape based on questionable confessions, because DNA now weighs more than everything else. hence CP5 are now vacated and swimming in cash. they didn’t get a fair trial.

    • Replies: @Feryl
    , @Precious
  371. Alden says:
    @Rich

    Truth is a black man who will vigorously defend any black violence against victims of another race, including Quentin Tellis murdered 1 Asian 2 White girls burnt one of the White girls to death. In prison for life thanks be to the non existent God and decent blacks on the juries.

    He probably defended the monsters who tortured Whites Christian Newsom and Channing Christianson to death. They were black the victims White

    By the way, Tellis is a serial killer. 3 victims in 3 separate incidents. At least he won’t stalk college campuses and murder more girls.

  372. @Precious

    obviously not, as CP5 were acquitted of attempted murder in the first trial. no one ever suggested that CP5 had caused bodily injury to trisha melli. they were basically convicted of touching her breasts and taking her purse. thanks to white people they would be freed from prison based on DNA evidence, regardless of what they were convicted of, as countless other lifers/condemned have been.

  373. Alden says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    That brave heroine who defended herself against an attempted rape was elderly and her mind was afflicted by the beginning of dementia . Vicious anti White rapist Till lied when he wrote she claimed she lied for the pleasure of having a poor pitiful little black boy killed

    I was a probation officer for 27 years. 14 year olds who attempt rape and commit other boys will be boys crimes keep on going till they are in mid to late forties and are either in prison for life, dead or finally settle down to some humdrum job. Till would have kept going and spawned other rapists.

    Because teen age boys are teen age boys they are often more vicious than adult criminals

    • Replies: @Feryl
  374. Alden says:
    @jeff stryker

    Most states have had youthful offender prisons for 16 to 25 year olds since the 1940s. What makes you an expert American criminal justice system. All you know about America is the slums you claim to have lived in.

  375. Rich says:
    @Truth

    There must be a factually innocent Negro somewhere. Here you go supporting the Central Park thugs, this Emmett Till character, is that all you guys do? Whitey imprisons his thugs and rapists. No one remembers the White guy that got lynched for insulting a married woman, because we don’t tolerate such behavior. Why the hell do you guys go around supporting guilty people just because some of their ancestors came from the same region of the world as yours? Law and order, Truth, try it on, fits nice, and is good for everyone. Even people with the same color skin as you.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Alden
  376. @Thomm

    Glad you got his name correct. But as far as the shoving things up his ass, his haters are unfortunately not lying. It was a joke that at the time was hilarious, but in hindsight is rather embarrassing. But it is true that he shoved a butt plug in his ass during one of his episodes on compound media.

    I feel a bit bad for the guy. He was a huge factor in waking me up to the nefarious influence of internationally jewry. He let slip a couple times how the people fucking around and sabotaging right wing movements seemed to invariably be Jewish. And even though he ended up totally cucking for Mark Levin, in end he was still thrown under the bus…

  377. Alden says:
    @Rurik

    As convicted felons they might be not qualified as objective and non biased to serve on criminal juries. Maybe they’ll just qualify for civil trials. They can be punished for their crimes by listening to expert witnesses droning on for hours about whatever. I really don’t care.

  378. Whitewolf says:
    @Alden

    What goy accused Frank? Write the proper word for us. Not gentile , but goy, sub human beast of burden put on earth to serve the chosen people. Now I know what you think of us.

    We’re neither goy not gentile. I’m European and I don’t subscribe to foreign labels of myself or my people. You shouldn’t either.

    • Replies: @Alden
  379. Hail says: • Website
    @Alden

    How about…Chinese government

    I have looked into the matter and it turns out the Chinese government is a one-party state totally controlled by an entity that calls itself the Communist Party. What to do, what to do…

  380. Alden says:
    @AceDeuce

    Would Tyson Till and Emmet Till be relatives by any chance?

  381. AceDeuce says:

    I was referring to Timothy Tyson’s Till book.

  382. Feryl says:
    @Sam Coulton

    Gimme a break.

    DNA can establish the presence of an individual, but it doesn’t automatically disqualify others (who didn’t leave DNA) from participation. Furthermore, physically attacking someone without the perpetrator(s) leaving hair, blood, or semen (from which to extract DNA) is obviously possible.

    You are a troll with no understanding of basic logic. Real life isn’t a CSI episode. Physical evidence doesn’t even have to exist to establish guilt (circumstantial evidence, lying to police, confessing to police, witness statements, and weak alibis can be, and have been, used to convict people).

    If one believes that physical evidence (especially in the form of DNA) must exist to convict a criminal, then we need to release a lot of people from jail/prison. If someone punches me in the face, escapes detention for 6 months, then is arrested, are the police going to have any physical evidence tying the perp to the crime? Unless his blood was taken from my body (if he bled in the first place) and properly tested, they aren’t going to have DNA evidence.

    How ’bout property crime? If we find the DNA of “unknown” individuals in robbed houses, does that mean the robbers who managed to not leave DNA ought to be automatically rejected as valid suspects? Even if the homeowner testifies that the non-DNA leaving individual robbed his house? If a team of robbers do a job, but one of them happens to scrape his hand and bleed on the carpet, should we only convict the bleeder?

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton
  383. Feryl says:
    @Alden

    This is why I don’t think mass incarceration alone caused crime to fall. Teenagers commit lots of crimes. Having the worst offenders locked up by the time they were in their late 20’s (as became common by the late 80’s) doesn’t change the fact that a new crop of young criminals will rise up to begin their career in crime.

    What caused crime to fall in the late 90’s is that the Millennial generation produced far fewer criminals than Boomers and Gen X. By 2000, most of the criminals of the Boom and X generation were behind bars (or were acting in a way that would eventually get them in trouble later on), but relatively few Millennials wanted to follow in their foot-steps.

    There’s also the fact that the record high crime rates of the late 70’s and early 90’s coincide with the generation born in the 60’s being teenagers and young adults, which are the prime age for committing crime. They slightly calmed down in the mid-80’s, but that was it. By the year 2000, this generation was between 40 and 30 years old; they were starting to age out of crime (and the worst people of this generation were behind bars by this point). When early 60’s births hit adolescences in the mid-late 70’s, crime became atrociously bad, and remained extremely high for the next 15-20 years.

    On most measures of dysfunction, there’s a big spike with people born from about 1955-1971, with those born from 1961-1964 being the worst off. This fits my own observation that people born in the late 50’s and 60’s are aging terribly, due to the excessive hedonism among teenagers in the 70’s and 80’s. Late Boomers and early X-ers are the “kegger generation”; late X-ers and Millennials grew up with crime patrols, “just say no”, stranger danger, family values, and the like, all of which were firmly in place by 1988 (spearheaded by Silents and early Boomers who did not want the children of the 1980’s to end up like Linda Blair’s “evil” generation).

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @jeff stryker
  384. Thomm says:
    @AceDeuce

    Fun fact: the character John Shaft was the creation of a white man, Ernest Tidyman.

    Not surprising, since he was in fact the very first black leading man action hero. I don’t think there could have been any Tier 1 black producers, studio execs, etc. before that point, so an on-screen star had to precede that. I don’t think that black TV ownership and movie theater attendance was significant before the late 1960s anyway.

    The episode of Star Trek, Deep Space Nine, titled ‘Far Beyond the Stars’ explores exactly this, where a 1950s black sci-fi writer has to hide his race from readers, and cannot get his story about a black leading hero published.

  385. Feryl says:
    @Monty

    But, what about all those CSI episodes where technicians and investigators carefully re-construct every aspect of the crime and the perp’s ID, leaving no doubt or mystery about anything?

  386. @eah

    A few days before the murders, Simpson made an exercise video. He danced, pranced, and moved effortlessly. Simpson weighed 210 pounds, his weight at his physical peak in his 20’s.

    • Replies: @Feryl
  387. @Alden

    “Don’t bring a karate kick to a knife fight.”

    As I previously mentioned O.J. had just made an exercise video and was still at playing weight. Ron Goldman was 5-9, 170 pounds, and unarmed. Simpson was 6-1, 210, had a knife, knew how to feint somebody out and was kill crazy.

    • Replies: @Alden
  388. @Alden

    Circa 1913, my relatives were the same sort of people as Mary Phagan.

  389. Feryl says:
    @S

    I would say that for people inclined to mental instability or weakness, a lot of things (including witnessing, or being the target of, violence) can throw them off their game.

    I understand that people who score well on measures of stability are less likely to suffer from PTSD after military service.

    Everyone is different, we can only try and figure out the character of people on a case by case basis, and hope they make decisions that reflect what’s best for them.

    • Replies: @S
  390. Feryl says:
    @David In TN

    A few days before the murders, Simpson made an exercise video. He danced, pranced, and moved effortlessly. Simpson weighed 210 pounds, his weight at his physical peak in his 20’s.

    Pro football players get brutally beaten up. It’s interesting how Simpson was able to maintain such good physical condition into middle age, when most veteran football players have wrecked knees, bad backs, etc.

  391. @Alden

    California’s biggest crop is weed…Yeah, that figures.

    I didn’t live in a slum in Phoenix. That is the difference between Cholos and inner-city blacks. The inner-city blacks are zoned to rundown ghettos back East. But the Cholos in the Southwest pop up anywhere, anytime.

    Parents retiring to Phoenix? That says something about California, doesn’t it?

    However, this is subjective. And I am from an East Coast pit. I can remember a girl who accompanied me back to Michigan to visit my family found the place “depressing” simply because of the weather.

    Hate people who live in America? Nah, to each his own…A man does what he wants to do.

    • Replies: @Alden
  392. Alden says:
    @Feryl

    Absolutely right about sex age and crime.

  393. Alden says:
    @David In TN

    Thanks for supporting me about Simpson’s ability to overwhelm an unsuspecting Goldman.

    Add rage and hormones.

    • Replies: @David In TN
  394. @Feryl

    I was born in 1974 and I would attribute all of this to the following.

    …Crack hit in the 1980’s and reduced many blacks and poor urban whites to hopeless addicts who had to commit felonies everyday in order to maintain their habit. But by 1992 the crack epidemic was over.

    …Roe vs Wade was passed in 1973 so abortion wiped out a generation of black inner-city criminals.

    …Birth control pills hit the market in the late sixties and had the same effect on the white ethnic underclass as Gina Nunzio, Colleen O’ Meara and Wanda Wiscozyksi all got on the pill.

    …The ethnic urban whites moved to the suburbs. A white child who grows up in the suburbs is less likely to be a criminal. White flight in the late seventies saved many white kids as their families moved to bedroom communities.

    …Late Boomers and Early Gen X (1955-1964) grew up post-Watergate in the seventies in the fallout of the sixties at a time of unstable social forces.

    …Indeed JUST SAY NO had a huge effect on drugs in school. My grandmother (Born 1923) was a schoolteacher in a Detroit suburb and mentioned that all of the sudden kids were no longer getting high in the parking lot like Jeff Spicoli. Dealers were not pushing drugs in school. The use of pills and pot went down among teenagers after 1983 or so.

    …Even before the The Three Strikes Law sentencing became tougher in the Reagan era. A parole officer on AMREN mentioned this-it simply was no longer worth it to be a petty white criminal and be sentenced to rape and torture in prison for stealing cars. Gone are the professional white car thieves, cat burglars, art museum heists, bank robbers…these sort of whites just stopped committing crimes and got regular jobs.

    …Divorce rates went down. Less Gen Y were latchkey kids. This was partly the roaring economy of the nineties. Their’s was the helicopter parents generation.

    …Methamphetamine, however, did trash many lower middle class whites in the nineties. There was a huge spike in petty crime among the poor hicks and rednecks as meth became popular in the nineties. But these were middle-to-late Gen X (Say 1968 to 1978) and by 2000 meth use was declining.

    …Gen X was more distrustful and skeptical of the government and authority. We’d had Nixon, Watergate, the sixties.

    …Three Strikes is a big one. Career criminals were locked up. This actually started with Willie Horton, whom nobody under 45 here will remember.

    • Replies: @Feryl
  395. Alden says:
    @jeff stryker

    My parents never retired to Phoenix. You have repeatedly slammed Phoenix as a terrible crime ridden Hispanic slum. I’ve never been there. According to you, every American town you’ve ever lived in is a run down crime ridden slum.
    You wrote it, I didn’t.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
    , @utu
  396. “Orenthal is too close to Oriental. That name has to go, like Lake Calhoun’s.”

    I prefer to refer to individuals by their names , how it resembles a this or a that is generally irrelebant to me.

  397. @Alden

    You are a liar a shill and an ass.

    • Replies: @Biff
  398. @Alden

    ALDEN

    Nash was robbed by criminal friends of Holmes who lived at Wonderland. Holmes was taken at gunpoint by thugs sent by Nash who were apparently Jewish men in the Israeli mafia over to Wonderland.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
  399. @Alden

    In his book on the Wrongful Death Civil Case, the Goldman’s attorney Daniel Petrocelli surmised that Simpson was spying on his ex-wife as he often did. When Goldman came to the front gate, Simpson exploded in rage.

    Goldman had sometimes driven (he didn’t have a car of his own. That night he was driving a friend’s car) Nicole’s car, which Simpson was aware of.

    When Goldman showed up that night, Simpson thought he came to have sex with his ex-wife.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  400. Innocent of not, they were railroaded. Just like Jamal. Doesn’t matter if they were innocent or not. They were obviously railroaded. Miscarriages of justice because of railroading are the shame of the US justice system. And yet you dumb clucks, ignorant of the law, support railroading.

    As long as they don’t railroad you. Man, I hope they do, dumb clucks.

    “Can there really be 46,000 to 230,000 innocent people locked away? Those of us who are involved in exoneration work firmly believe so.”

    John Grisham

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/opinion/commentary/ct-perspec-innocent-prisoners-innocence-project-death-row-dna-testing-prosecutors-0315-story.html

    • Replies: @Feryl
  401. Biff says:
    @obwandiyag

    You are a liar a shill and an ass.

    Stop sugar coating it and tell that dumb prick what he really is.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  402. @Biff

    Here is some genuine intellectual laziness trying to connect the Central Park Five to the Tiananmen Square non-massacre.

    Can’t use my “AGREE” button as I haven’t commented in over 4 weeks, but I agree with Biff.

    John, why did you do it? Why gratuitously offend the Chicoms when you don’t need to, and what do the Chinese rulers in 1989 have to do with the Jewish rulers in America covering up Black-on-White murder and mayhem in 2019?

    C’mon man, get real. Do you expect us at UR to believe that you don’t know the Media in America is 100% owned and controlled by Jews and that they use it as a propaganda tool to endlessly stoke racial animosity and violence, with Blacks as their preferred gory golem?

    BTW, the “Tiananmen Square Massacre” was a George Bush CIA-orchestrated (((pro-democracy))) incident and if you don’t know this, then you are simply incompetent to speak on China.

    Moreover, your refusal to name the Jew makes you a very superficial if not a very duplicitous commentator of American politics and culture, to say the very least.

    • Agree: Alden
  403. S says:
    @Feryl

    I would say that for people inclined to mental instability or weakness, a lot of things (including witnessing, or being the target of, violence) can throw them off their game.

    People, in this case women, who might already be damaged from past trauma, are naturally more susceptable to negative effects from an additional trauma such as rape, which of course in no way excuses such an act.

    From the accounts I’ve come across of women who were raped, previously quite healthy and not dysfunctional, the effects are in many ways quite often devestating. Besides being an attack upon their person, it’s an attack to break or murder their spirit. It’s an attack upon their very being.

    I can easily see why in the past the common punishment for rape was hanging.

  404. @Alden

    ALDEN

    In all fairness, I think that Californian whites tend to regard Back East as an artificial Europe of grey crumbling post-industrial neighborhoods where people refuse to integrate and whites remain entrenched in ethnic neighborhoods run by a syndicate of upper-class Jews. Which, to a degree, is true.

    Also in all fairness, apart from the Oakies (Who were quite redneck) and Bakersfield Swedish-Americans most Californian Caucasians are progressive transplants who moved out West to escape the faux-Europe class-stratification and small-mindedness of back East.

    Tempe was not a slum. The only slums in Phoenix were the barrios, really. And Yorba Linda was far from a slum when I visited my brother there either. But alas, the Cholos were everywhere in LA and Phoenix and I grew to fear them-though not every Hispanic is a Cholo-because of their sudden unprovoked outbursts of primitive violence and gang tendencies. The California whites even had an expression-“that is a Mexican thing to do”.

    Beyond a few tokes on a joint in college, I was never much of a druggies and was amazed h9o9w awash California was in drugs. People smoked up with their grandparents. Tweakers were everywhere. This was really astonishing to someone from the East Coast, where only people in the ghetto smoked crack.

    Only the strong survive California? Only the stoned.

    As for living overseas, it is a moot point for most Gen Y and especially those from California. I don’t think any of the stoned hacky-sacking hippie-slackers my age (born in the mid-seventies) I knew as a young person in California had the initiative to actually move anywhere. I’ve lost touch with them, but they’re probably still hackying somewhere and passing a bowl of “Humble weed”. It can be challenging to live overseas and while the hustle and bustle of Dubai or Asia would not be that different from the East Coast I cannot see Californians really adjusting anywhere.

    Actually, in my time overseas, I’ve observed that Californians have a difficult time adjusting outside Ben & Jerry’s Grateful Dead land or the L.B.C. or Orange Country. Most Californians I did meet overseas were eager to get back to California. Conversely, Indians I met overseas who had worked in Aptose or anywhere else in the Silicone ghetto, however, were eager to get out of California.

    Vatos locos forever, Eses…Score a gram of tweak at the Circle K and eat some Jack N the crack…

  405. @Biff

    It would be a good idea, whether you are attacking or defending with sarcasm, to know that Alden is a woman. And better to tell obwandiyag that his absurdly exaggerated criticism leaves him with little credit.

  406. @David In TN

    DAVID

    According to Fuhrman, an actual police detective who examined the crime scene, Nicole probably had a confrontation with OJ on the steps (Which started at their daughter’s recital) and she was alread down and stabbed when Goldman showed up and OJ was hiding SOMEWHERE during his approach and leaped out at him with the element of surprise.

    Goldman did not simply walk up on OJ face-to-face (Assuming OJ did it). OJ was hiding in the darkness of the bushes and grabbed him from behind.

    Also (Assuming OJ did it) I don’t think it was so much jealous rage at a small-time Jewish wannabe young actor turned moonlighting gigolo as it was the fact that Nicole was already mortally injured and Goldman was a witness to the crime and OJ was trapped at the crime scene as Goldman approached.

    Finally, OJ was a chronic cocaine abuser. This might have been a factor as well.

    • Replies: @David In TN
  407. utu says:
    @Alden

    He is compelled to exaggerate how bad American cities he live in were to justify his pathetic life as an expat in some s-hole country.

  408. utu says:
    @Rurik

    Felons can serve on juries in many states. It is up to prosecutor or defense attorney to accept them or reject them.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  409. utu says:
    @Nicholas Stix

    Jews turned the Dreyfus affair into a great success in France. The antisemitism in France was relegated form polite society. No politician could afford to use anti-semitic innuendos anymore. Jews mobilized and rallied together to start various para-political organizations and the takeover of media by Jews ensued as they realized the power of media.

    So your insinuation that Frank was framed and set up by some gentile could point a finger to an operative of some Jewish organization that wanted to emulate the success of the Dreyfus affair in American. They needed a scapegoat.

    Personally I do not believe he was set up as it would be to too cumbersome operation however the subsequent conduct of pro-Frank defense and pro-Frank media may suggest that his story as a scapegoat was framed to be favorable for the Jewish cause. And his lynching was exactly what Jewish organization desired. One may wonder to what extent the instigators of the lynching in the posse from Marietta, GA were somehow influenced by some unknown Yago on the payroll of B’nai B’rith.

    • Replies: @Alden
  410. @Feryl

    DNA can establish the presence of an individual, but it doesn’t automatically disqualify others (who didn’t leave DNA) from participation. Furthermore, physically attacking someone without the perpetrator(s) leaving hair, blood, or semen (from which to extract DNA) is obviously possible.

    CP5 were convicted of rape (Trisha Melli was raped several times by whoever brutally assaulted her). No DNA from 1 of 5 offenders = high end improbability that any one of them raped or assaulted her.

    You are a troll with no understanding of basic logic. Real life isn’t a CSI episode. Physical evidence doesn’t even have to exist to establish guilt (circumstantial evidence, lying to police, confessing to police, witness statements, and weak alibis can be, and have been, used to convict people).

    In the dark ages of criminal “justice”, yes, but in the 21st century? No way, bud. Hence CP5 vacated and swimming in millions of dollars.

    If one believes that physical evidence (especially in the form of DNA) must exist to convict a criminal, then we need to release a lot of people from jail/prison. If someone punches me in the face, escapes detention for 6 months, then is arrested, are the police going to have any physical evidence tying the perp to the crime? Unless his blood was taken from my body (if he bled in the first place) and properly tested, they aren’t going to have DNA evidence.

    Punching someone in the face is in most cases a misdemeanor, in most areas police won’t even pursue an arrest for that after 6 weeks much less 6 months. CP5 were convicted of felony rape, for which semen sample collection has been the norm since at least 1975. Puching someone’s face = baby tier crime.

    How ’bout property crime? If we find the DNA of “unknown” individuals in robbed houses, does that mean the robbers who managed to not leave DNA ought to be automatically rejected as valid suspects? Even if the homeowner testifies that the non-DNA leaving individual robbed his house? If a team of robbers do a job, but one of them happens to scrape his hand and bleed on the carpet, should we only convict the bleeder?

    CP5 weren’t convicted of property crime. I like how you anti-CP5 trolls can’t use any examples to make your “arguments” other than crimes which CP5 weren’t convicted of, including non-violent crimes like burglary (which has about a 15% clearance rate due to the near-impossibility of solving it without prints or touch-DNA).

    Yet, again, CP5 were convicted of rape, despite high-order improbability of 5 rapists leaving behind no DNA. Their case was then thrown out, as is routine procedure in cases like this one. You can’t claim it’s anti-white or pro-black; white criminals who confessed get released all the time for lack of DNA evidence (West Memphis 3 ringing bells?)

    DNA is a magic wand that is overriding tbe third world-tier trials, as well as the nationalist racism, of the 20th century. Some people will not go easily in to the 21st century, but it’s working and crime has been dropping precipitously since 1989.

    • Replies: @Feryl
  411. @Anon

    You are just a guest and a bad one at that. Go back to the ghetto your ancestors crawled out of.

  412. AceDeuce says:
    @jeff stryker

    Fun fact: The two lead detectives in the OJ case 8 years later, Vannnatter and Lange, were the lead investigators in this case.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  413. @AceDeuce

    ACE

    Here is a funny thing. In both cases, Lange knew who was guilty. Yet neither Holmes nor OJ ended up being found guilty.

    Both cases involved washed-up celebrities, cocaine and Jews as victims or perpetrators (According to Lange the thugs who actually led Holmes back to Wonderland were members of the Israeli mafia).

    And somehow, nobody was ever convicted.

    • Replies: @Alden
  414. @jeff stryker

    Tom Lange, an actual police detective who was the lead investigator and examined the crime scene, shares my opinion. He gave it on a podcast just released.

  415. Feryl says:
    @Sam Coulton

    Yet, again, CP5 were convicted of rape, despite high-order improbability of 5 rapists leaving behind no DNA. Their case was then thrown out, as is routine procedure in cases like this one. You can’t claim it’s anti-white or pro-black; white criminals who confessed get released all the time for lack of DNA evidence (West Memphis 3 ringing bells?)

    Ya know, it is possible to attack someone (and participate in a gang assault) without insertion of the penis, or inserting the penis but not ejaculating. Is this that hard to understand? The logistics of the case suggest that the CP5 were the initial party that knocked down/beat/dragged the woman. That in itself is a serious crime. The authorities failed to track down the guy who swooped in after the beating and ejaculated, but obviously the initial gang attack is physically and morally culpable in the subsequent direct rape. Why do you (or anyone else) insist on defending these creeps.

    How many times do I have to point out that the presence of one individual doesn’t automatically mean that no one else was involved? WRT WM3, as I stated above Misskelley and Baldwin had strong alibis and neither one had a history of deviant behavior. They never should’ve been treated as suspects. Damien Echols has never been conclusively tied to the crime, either, but Echols before the murders was put in a psychiatric facility, in which he bit the arm of someone and drew blood. He had also been involved in several domestic disputes (particularly with the father of his girl friend). Plus, most importantly, Echols had a much weaker alibi than the other two. Echols also had a history of being medicated for his mental problems, unlike the other two. The police’s attention was drawn to Echols because he was a mentally ill individual who made an impression on the region’s law enforcement and social workers.

    People who wanted to trash the Deep South, and the integrity of the police, have all bought into the mythology that the WM3 were angels who could not, in any way shape or form, have been involved in the murders. But this glosses over what a disturbed and troubled person Echols was at the time (“they only wore black clothes, what’s the big deal”). If you are investigating a homicide with signs of possible sexual motivation, you might as well examine the whereabouts of area residents known for deviant behavior. Unfortunately, the police coaching Misskelley to make a dubious confession while implicating Jason Baldwin, is what tainted the entire investigation and causes people to criticize every single thing the police did.

    Punching someone in the face is in most cases a misdemeanor, in most areas police won’t even pursue an arrest for that after 6 weeks much less 6 months. CP5 were convicted of felony rape, for which semen sample collection has been the norm since at least 1975. Puching someone’s face = baby tier crime.

    If the assault results in serious injuries (possibly leading to a coma/vegetative state/eventual death) and/or permanent disfigurement, that’s not a “baby” crime. Several years ago the quarterback of the MN Gophers punched someone in a bar, and they lapsed into a coma after hitting their head on the ground; trust me, the authorities didn’t sweep it under the rug, or just give him a slap on the wrist. Punches and kicks can result in attempted murder charges, if the beating is severe and gratuitous enough (and the injuries severe enough).

    In the dark ages of criminal “justice”, yes, but in the 21st century? No way, bud. Hence CP5 vacated and swimming in millions of dollars.

    As of the last 10-20 years, some people have been convicted for murder in the absence of a body. Think about that. They don’t have confirmation of even the death itself, let alone the manner of death.

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton
    , @Mr. Anon
  416. Feryl says:
    @jeff stryker

    Beyond a few tokes on a joint in college, I was never much of a druggies and was amazed h9o9w awash California was in drugs. People smoked up with their grandparents. Tweakers were everywhere. This was really astonishing to someone from the East Coast, where only people in the ghetto smoked crack.

    Yah, the West Coast has been ground zero for druggies since the 1960’s. They had the first cities which did the “needle exchange” bull-shit. There’s a meme that “mild weather” attracts worthless druggies to the region, but it’s not like the South is, for the most part, going to kill you in the winter. What really attracts these dirt-bags is the West Coast’s venerable tradition of tolerating deviance. Compare that to the “wet” and “dry” counties you see in the South, or Cincinnati still refusing to allow porn to be mailed to their region.

    “Harm-reduction” has it’s biggest proponents on the West Coast, whereas people in the Northeast, Midwest, and South are more likely to believe in discouraging people from getting into dangerous stuff in the first place.

    • Replies: @Alden
  417. Mr. Anon says:
    @Thomm

    Projection is all you ever post, you contemptible little weasel.

    Hey, I guess I hit too close to home. Don’t worry – your kind is accepted now. You should show some pride – there are even parades for that now.

  418. Mr. Anon says:
    @Truth

    That isn’t a pun, nitwit. You are so incredibly stupid.

  419. Feryl says:
    @obwandiyag

    “Can there really be 46,000 to 230,000 innocent people locked away? Those of us who are involved in exoneration work firmly believe so.”

    How easy it is to sell the fantasy that our prisons are over-loaded with nice and wholesome people, after 25 years of declining crime. As others on here have indicated, anecdotal evidence (and laundry lists of prior convictions) is that most incarcerated people have a history of bad behavior and ended up there for a good reason. I don’t remember hardly anyone in the 1980’s crying a river about all the “innocent” people who ended up behind bars, but then again, there was so much crime during that period that the feeling was that the cops had a hard enough catching all the bad guys, so why would they try so hard to nail innocent people? Do the cops make mistakes some times? Of course they do. But only during periods of falling crime (like the last 25 years, or the 1950’s) do we hear these criminal apologetics which claim that the prison system is over-flowing with such wonderful people.

    Oh, and John Grisham has a vested interest in attacking prosecutors/the police, because it feeds into his career and ego. Where do they get these stats, anyway? Well I have stats: the crime victimization surveys conducted since the 80’s, which indicate that a lot of scumbags were attacking people in the 80’s and early 90’s, proportionate to the actual crime rate. Whereas since about 1995, fewer people report being victimized, in alignment with official crime rate stats. With fewer dirtbags prowling the streets, guys like Grisham can promote anti-police narratives more easily (“geez, it’s not the criminals causing so much trouble, it’s the cops”).

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
    , @obwandiyag
  420. Feryl says:
    @jeff stryker

    …Divorce rates went down. Less Gen Y were latchkey kids. This was partly the roaring economy of the nineties. Their’s was the helicopter parents generation.

    Divorce only went slightly down in the 1980’s. Divorce rates since 1970 have been vastly higher than they were before 1970. But growing up in intact families didn’t instill any respect for cultural stability into Boomers or Silents; rather, X-ers and subsequent generations grew up in chaos and now resent Silents and Boomers for not allowing future generations to grow up in a peaceful environment. But you’re right that Gen X got hit the hardest, partly because they often had Silent parents who refused to offer them any guidance or comfort (whereas Boomers at least did something to remind Millennials of what the difference between right and wrong is).

    …Late Boomers and Early Gen X (1955-1964) grew up post-Watergate in the seventies in the fallout of the sixties at a time of unstable social forces.

    This is also the chief cohort that has Silent parents. Early Boomers tended to resent the “conformity” that the GI Gen promoted, whereas later Boomers couldn’t really grasp what the Silent Gen stood for. The early Boomers rebelled against “square” GIs, the later Boomers/early X-ers rebelled to just rebel. It’s striking how often people born in the late 50’s and 60’s remember their parents being intellectually and emotionally absent from the lives of their children (mid-late Xers were more likely to have physically absent parents). And as you indicate, Silents and early Boomers led the attack on the 1950’s, whereas late Boomers went to high school when things had already firmly changed.

    …Methamphetamine, however, did trash many lower middle class whites in the nineties. There was a huge spike in petty crime among the poor hicks and rednecks as meth became popular in the nineties. But these were middle-to-late Gen X (Say 1968 to 1978) and by 2000 meth use was declining.

    What’s interesting is that increased drug use in the late 90’s did not cause crime to increase all that much (crime in 1996-2000 was much lower than it was from 1990-1995). Late X-ers and early Millennials are just not that interested in beating people up or stealing, and later Millennials are more peaceful still. I think that what you might be detecting is the loss in civic pride/abbysa (spelling?) which has been getting progressively worse since the 1960’s. The thinning middle class and decaying political and physical infrastructure is demoralizing and often conflated with crime rates (when in reality, crime was awful in the 1970’s even though our political system worked pretty well, we had a strong middle class, and we still made things). Social and ideological camaraderie has been fragmenting at an accelerating rate since the 60’s, regardless of the actual crime rate.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
  421. @Beefcake the Mighty

    And it came out, due to an eyewitness (a black man) coming forward before he died, that the murderer of the girl that Frank was lynched over was a black man, not Leo Frank, a Jew. I remember reading that in the NYT 30 or so years ago.

    • Replies: @Alden
  422. Fotunately even marijuana remains illegal in California except for medical use. Small consolation for people like myself who think it remain illegal period.

    • Replies: @Alden
  423. Rurik says:
    @utu

    can serve on juries

    ‘can’, or must

  424. ‘Oh, and John Grisham has a vested interest in attacking prosecutors/the police, because it feeds into his career and ego. Where do they get these stats, anyway? Well I have stats: the crime victimization surveys conducted since the 80’s, which indicate that a lot of scumbags were attacking people in the 80’s and early 90’s, proportionate to the actual crime rate”

    That is not what Mr Grisham is doing. He is not on.a random assail against the police. He has come to understand that justice is not the result of neutral forces seek enforcement and theing truth.And that members of the government will circumvent the very purpose of law which is to order but justice.

    That members of the government will use the powerless or those most vulnerable as scapegoats. If you someone like myself who grew up lauding law enfocrement, discovering a pattern of abuse by the same betrays one sense of reality and the very foundations of what it means to be a citizen.

    What went down Aeda is but a tiny snippet of what seems a pattern across the country. Call me naive, but it’s no small disappointment.

    No conservative would support lies to administer due process.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
  425. @Feryl

    FERYL

    If you are some criminal loser who ends being awarded 40 million dollars for false imprisonment like the CP5 it is almost worth it, isn’t it?

    I’m waiting for some loser criminal to falsely implicate himself in a crime so he can then hire a lawyer to prove him innocent and then be compensated to the tune of $20 million.

    Sure, you do a few years. But those sort of those guys are headed for jail anyhow, aren’t they?

    The stiffening criminal penalties did nothing to deter black and Hispanic criminals. But you don’t see many old-fashioned white career criminals anymore-you know the ones who used to steal art, were cat burglars, ran chop shops.

    Gone too are the persistent white sex offenders. They are now servicing African sexual needs in prison.

    • Replies: @Alden
  426. @Rich

    For those of us on the nationalist right it’s very difficult maintaining jewish allies among jews who understand where we’re coming from but who aren’t willing to criticize their own the way non-jewish white liberals are. Jews still maintain tribal loyalty, the women even more than the men. Nor are liberal jews forced to make the same concessions white liberals are. When’s the last time you saw a liberal jew on TV told that zionism is jewish supremacy and then forced to defend it consistent with what they espouse with regard to “white nationalism”? It never happens because with the power and influence jews, both left and right, wield, the question would immediately become about antisemitism. So it’s impossible to mount any sort of critique that gets widespread coverage, even though I’m sure people like Tucker Carlson and Ann Coulter understand the hypocrisy but won’t really say it because (a) they value their careers, and (b) don’t want to alienate jewish friends. Literally my best friend since I was a kid is jewish. We can’t talk about politics because it gets too heated. But he is a classic jewish liberal hypocrite. I love him like a brother, just not one of mine! Apologies to Woody Allen. P.S. It was actually I who told him to read Portnoy’s Complaint 30 years ago; and he’s a Rosenthal whose family came to California from Chicago! He’s almost unshame-able, though.

    • Replies: @Alden
  427. @Feryl

    Ya know, it is possible to attack someone (and participate in a gang assault) without insertion of the penis, or inserting the penis but not ejaculating. Is this that hard to understand? The logistics of the case suggest that the CP5 were the initial party that knocked down/beat/dragged the woman.

    Not a single piece of evidence suggests they did nor were they ever accused.

    Why do you (or anyone else) insist on defending these creeps.

    Tell it to the courts that threw out the case and awarded them millions.

    How many times do I have to point out that the presence of one individual doesn’t automatically mean that no one else was involved?

    No DNA = no rape and highly unlikely violent. Trisha Melli was assaulted (beaten and bound) by her rapist(s). If not 1 in 5 of the CP roster left DNA, their convictions were sharted.

    People who wanted to trash the Deep South, and the integrity of the police, have all bought into the mythology that the WM3 were angels who could not, in any way shape or form, have been involved in the murders

    Doesn’t matter if they were angels or not; no evidence linked them to the scene and the cops revealed their scummyness. There were no fair trials. The south has a proven track record of lynchings, judicial misconduct, etc. Yet as CP5 can show, kangaroo courts exist in northern latitudes as well.

    If the assault results in serious injuries (possibly leading to a coma/vegetative state/eventual death) and/or permanent disfigurement, that’s not a “baby” crime. Several years ago the quarterback of the MN Gophers punched someone in a bar, and they lapsed into a coma after hitting their head on the ground; trust me, the authorities didn’t sweep it under the rug, or just give him a slap on the wrist

    The majority (+95%) of punches do not result in disfigurement or coma. Nor do attempted murderers/rapists typically use their fists as weapons. This is a vague strawman argument.

    As of the last 10-20 years, some people have been convicted for murder in the absence of a body. Think about that. They don’t have confirmation of even the death itself, let alone the manner of death.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_murder_convictions_without_a_body

    a handful of people have been convicted in the USA inspite of absent victims innthe last 10-20 years, compared to the much greater number of such convictions from the 19th and 20th centuries. in the 20 years-recent cases some people were later acquitted, and in most cases the convicted revealed information only tbe killers would know. the trend is sharply on the decline and in the future aome of these people may have their cases thrown out and bs released from captivity.

    God bless judicial standards.

  428. I haven’ t lost a ounce of what I think of Miss Coulter, however,

    You know I had thought that Miss Ann Coulter had turned a corner. That she had left the tawdry for something more serious on the issues. When all else fails,

    “Lets hrrumph about Mr Orenthal Simpson.”

    So Miss Coulter and this author want to honor traitors to the US. Which essentially says,

    “As states we can make war of the US as we choose. We don’t need to adhere to any form of due process. But because our feelings are hurt about our slaves. And we are being criticized for owning them, we want to break our contract. And we can and will do so by force. And no one should say bo. Because we as states are not part of the union.”

    Nothing has changed regarding the condition of the states by order of the Constitution. According to defenders of the attack by the state of Carolina and those who followed — she had a right to make war for various complaints. That means she has that right today as would all other states. I take it that Miss Coulter is now rescinding her complaints about immigration because by her own defense of General Lee and others , they are acting in accordance with the authority of their states.

    Miss Coulter is now rejecting her case on immigration, afterall, the states as independent actors get to decide for independent of the US states as a whole.

    —————————————

    It was not just the innocence project that made the difference in the NYC case. It was the NYC DA’s office that faced a dilemma. That dilemma was simple, blow the whistle on the first prosecution orr maintain out silence about “flaws” noted in the early stages of the investigation. I read an article once by Miss Coulter in which lambasted inner city communities for not cooperating with the police. Ignoring the obvious – that inner city juries put people in prison every day based on the testimony from people in those communities, one has to wonder why she has not written a similar column about the silence of government officials in law enforcement who maintain their silence until confronted with no escape clauses.

  429. Feryl says:
    @Sam Coulton

    Doesn’t matter if they were angels or not; no evidence linked them to the scene and the cops revealed their scummyness. There were no fair trials. The south has a proven track record of lynchings, judicial misconduct, etc. Yet as CP5 can show, kangaroo courts exist in northern latitudes as well.

    Just for the record, I don’t believe that the WM3 are guilty. But the point is that the police, contrary to what some WM3 supporters claim, were not stupid or crazy to think that Echols might be a perpetrator. I agree that in the absence of strong evidence, nobody should be convicted of a serious crime like murder. In some cases, however, there is such a strong communal desire to punish someone that police and prosecutors feel a lot of social pressure to do something, which can backfire when you have a weak case.

    Also, I think that most of the cops in the WM3 case were sincerely misguided. They arrived at the “satanic ritual” theory, and refused to budge from it even when they should’ve been scrutinizing people who deserved more attention (like the family members of the victims). The police prejudice, combined with Misskelley’s dubious confession, derailed the investigation. Lastly, this was a relatively h0-hum town whose cops were woefully ill-equipped to handle a triple kidnapping/murder with bodies possibly transported and then dumped in a creek. This was a much more complex crime then they bargained for, and they should’ve sought qualified assistance from elsewhere.

  430. AceDeuce says:
    @AceDeuce

    Tidyman didn’t create Shaft as a movie character. He wrote a novel that was later made into a movie.

    • Replies: @Alden
  431. Elizabeth says:
    @Malcolm X-Lax

    I think we can all safely assume what race she isn’t.

    • Agree: Malcolm X-Lax
  432. Clyde says:
    @Mr. Anon

    The jailhouse psycho killer, Matias Reyes, (Read his wiki) who confessed and his semen was found on the Central Park Jogger. He was just one of many bricking and punching, kicking assailants. His distinction is leaving some semen.

  433. @Feryl

    You know nothing about the “justice” system. You do not know what “railroaded” means. And you did not address the question of railroading because you are a stupid child who does not know what the word means.

    You do not know what prosecutors motivations are.

    If you did, you would know it is impossible that there are not thousands of innocent convicted people out there, including on death row.

    Impossible.

    You’re the type of cross-eyed ADD confused child who insists the government can’t do anything right. Until it comes to convicting criminals and murderers. And then it is perfect.

    Typical cretinous baby..

  434. @crimson2

    Excellent response! Have at the moron! Slice him good!

  435. @Feryl

    What a bunch of confused nonsense. You really are a basement-dwelling loser. Generalize some more about things you don’t understand, why don’t ya? Show us some graphs on your utterly clueless pronunciamenti. Stupid child.

  436. @Sam Coulton

    Thank you, voice of reason.

    • Replies: @Anon
  437. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    The only ignorant one here is yourself you stupid hick. Being a “liberal Jewish woman” doesn’t automatically validate everything she did or even mean she actually was “liberal” in any meaningful sense of the word. Nor was the definition of “liberal” in the 1980s anything close to today’s version. But keep bootlicking like the rest of the racist neanderthals on this website, and don’t complain when people you actually care about start getting convicted based on similar standards.

    • Replies: @Alden
  438. Alden says:
    @jeff stryker

    There are no Swedes in and around Bakersfield you moron. Okie migration was almost 100 years ago and greatly, greatly exaggerated by Steinbeck.

    So you don’t like California, BFD. As for the weed, that’s mostly a triumph of the okie redneck hillbilly White trash cracker Whites you denigrate in every post.

    3 things happened at the same time. Affirmative action meant young Whites couldn’t get jobs.

    Rich liberals asked some judge to close down the entire logging industry in California because Spotted Owls couldn’t have babies because of loggers. That was actually a triumph of rich environmentalists against very prosperous White loggers

    Weed became very popular with millions of fools and the Jew media glorified it.

    So, the loggers turned to growing weed and became famously rich, sending their kids back east to Andover Exeter Milton and spending winters in Spain Mexico etc

    Thousands of young Whites denied jobs by affirmative action discrimination moved to N California joined the former loggers and started growing weed.

    And that’s how weed became California’s largest crop by the 1980s. And the Spotted Owl that started it all? They are being eaten and destroyed by the Great Barn Owl that migrated from the Midwest. Fewer Spotted Owls now than 50 years ago when the rich Whites destroyed the livelihoods of middle class Whites.

    The cubicle coolies won that one. Little did they know that once the capitalist pigs destroyed the blue collar Whites they’d go after the cubicle coolies.
    You are such a pompous ass posting your ignorant 70 years out dated sneers at Irish Italians everybody but the genius Jeff who grew up in the White slums of Detroit and lived in and observed many slums including even the college town surrounded by starving drug addicted poor White trash.
    I’ve often wondered how old you are. Your references to cities dominated by Irish Italian and other Whites and other things are more like the observations of a 70 year old than a 40 year old.

    You couldn’t make it in America. You couldn’t get a pretty White wife. So you left.

    And don’t tell me what impression Californians have of the east coast. According to the rstebsive auto biography you’ve posted over the years, you’ve never lived on the east coast either.

    Yorba Linda,

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  439. Alden says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Recreational marijuana is now legal in California

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  440. Alden says:
    @jeff stryker

    You sure know a lot about pornography.

    Sounds like scumbag Israeli immigrants muscling in in scumbag Lebanese immigrant stripper prostitution businesses.

  441. Alden says:
    @jeff stryker

    Grateful Dead? How old are you?

    There are reasons why California is the 5th largest economy in the world and stoners aren’t the reason.

    White slums of Detroit Mexican slums of Phoenix I suppose never living anywhere but crime ridden slums causes your distorted view of America. IF, IF you ever lived in those slums at all. So many of your claims are straight out of the 1950s.

  442. Anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @obwandiyag

    Let’s stipulate that:
    -there is no legally admissible evidence implicating the CP5 in the crime of rape or sexual assault
    -there was prosecutorial and judicial misconduct present in their trials; i.e, they were railroaded
    -the decision to vacate their convictions was required by law

    My question for you, obwandiyag, is whether you believe they were complicit in any way in this crime, notwithstanding the legalities (which I support and respect for multiple reasons)? If no, end of story. If you have your doubts, I wonder about how you reconcile your ethics with cognitive reality.

    For the record, I have great difficulty with reconciling social pathologies with harming my fellow humans for almost all reasons and justifications.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
  443. Alden says:
    @Charlesz Martel

    OMG!!!!

    You read Leo Frank was innocent and that a black was the rapist in the Jew New York Times and you believe it???

    Who believes anything in the NYTimes?

    Who knew so many retards and morons read the NYTimes.

    I supposed the real black rapist worked in a barber shop and carefully collected White customers hair to sprinkle on Mary’s chest and mix with her own hair.

    The hair found on Mary wasn’t proof Leo Frank raped and murdered her, but it sure proved it wasn’t a black man. It did prove a White man raped and murdered her. 2 men and a girl with long reddish blonde hair in that factory.

    The hair was why the police suspected Frank, the White man from the first.

    The hair and the circumstantial evidence that Frank was in the habit of groping pawing and harassing the girls as young as 10 in his slave labor factory. The black employee left the girls alone and had a happy common law marriage with a woman his own age.

  444. Alden says:
    @AceDeuce

    I read the book. Shaft lived in Greenwich Vilkage and had a big collection of jazz records. He was a beatnik and his friends were all beatniks. The book was kind of propaganda for Greenwich village beatniks

  445. Truth says:
    @Rich

    My friend, you are probably good at roofing, welding pipe, pullimg wire, laying brick or whatever trade you make your living in…maybe a little propped up by nepotism, but adequate nonetheless. Reading and making coherent arguments however, are not your strengths. Corresponding with you makes me feel like i am back in the 5th grade in Queens.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  446. Mr. Anon says:
    @Feryl

    Why do you (or anyone else) insist on defending these creeps.

    Perhaps Sam Coulton is a creep himself. He sounds like one.

  447. Alden says:
    @Anonymous

    Pinsen is absolutely right about the horrendous crime especially murder rate in NYC in the 1980s. It even affected the wealthiest Whitest parts of the city. Horrors!!!!!!!!!!

    From about 1955 to 2000 liberalism meant let blacks later Hispanics commit the worst crimes possible and not send them to prison.

    By that definition, NYC was the most liberal city in America. After a short crackdown on crime beginning with the Giuliani administration, New York liberals who elected Deblasio on a pro crime platform is going right back to where it was most of the mid to late 20th century.

    Now days liberalism means “eradicate all Whites from the earth”

    I read the local Jewish Journal every week. Gotta keep an eye on the enemy ya know. There was a heartbroken article by some stupid woman.

    “The minorities view us as White. Sob sob sob. What can we Jews do to convince the minorities that we are a special oppressed abused type of White that identified as minority’s?”” On and on and on

  448. Mr. Anon says:
    @Sam Coulton

    Tell it to the courts that threw out the case and awarded them millions.

    You probably think OJ is innocent too.

    The majority (+95%) of punches do not result in disfigurement or coma. Nor do attempted murderers/rapists typically use their fists as weapons.

    So it’s okay to beat up women in a park then?

    With all sincerity: f**k you, you slimy piece of s**t.

  449. Mr. Anon says:
    @Truth

    Corresponding with you makes me feel like i am back in the 5th grade in Queens.

    You should be glad to feel like you’re fifteen again.

    • LOL: Rich
    • Replies: @Truth
  450. A good piece (https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/273977/3-biggest-lies-about-central-park-five-jack-kerwick) on “The 3 Biggest Lies About the Central Park Five” by Jack Kerwick, who ends with:

    “Trisha Meili isn’t buying any of this–and she remains the REAL victim in this case. She is the real hero about whose courageous, dignified stand against the unrelenting ravages of the violent racial hatred with which she’s been bombarded should be the subject of many films and television series.”

    “Something tells me that neither Netflix nor anyone else will take me up on this suggestion.”

    • Agree: eah
  451. Alden says:
    @jeff stryker

    Cat burglars? When and where? That’s late 1800s European crime fiction.

    Next you’ll be posting about White cowboy train and bank robbers.

  452. Alden says:
    @Sam Coulton

    So just how was Trisha Melli beaten so badly she was in a coma for seven weeks, her face and body so disfigures her family only recognized her by a piece of jewelry the angelic perps missed and she’ll never completely recover?

    Didn’t the A&B W GBI and even mayhem occur the day of the Puerto Rican “Pride” Parade when homocidal PRs were rampaging all over the city robbing and beating Whites and homicidal blacks joined in the fun?

    Waiting for our expat friend Jeff to rebut with tales of drunken Irish on St Patrick’s day in the White slums of Detroit

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  453. Alden says:
    @Rich

    Another cubicle coolie ( if you even have a job) declares his superiority over skilled certified construction workers small business owners farmers land lords developers and others who make triple the income of the cubicle coolies.

    Do you have any idea of the net profit from a laundromat?

    Rich’s comment was as well written as yours.

  454. Alden says:
    @utu

    Wasn’t Frank lynched because the governor of Georgia was bribed by Frank’s relatives to pardon Frank, Frenk was pardoned and ready for release? He would have been totally free and ready to be another fund raising victim for ADL and AJC. AJC is as bad if not worse that ADL. It was AJC who funded the satanic abomination of all the school integration and school busing law suits.

    Frank did murder and rape a 12 year old who worked in his slave labor factory for $1.25 a week. He was righteously punished.

    • Agree: anarchyst
  455. Alden says:
    @Malcolm X-Lax

    I live half the year in a Jewish neighborhood. I just never talk to them about their issues. Same with blacks. Avoid their grievances. If they persist in airing their grievances to you, avoid them. It’s not worth the oxygen used in talking to them.

  456. Alden says:
    @Whitewolf

    I understand what you mean. But I think all non Jews should know what the words Jews use as the term for us means.

  457. Alden says:
    @jeff stryker

    You must watch American trash TV a lot if you think the Kardashians are American royalty or anything but a manifestation of the power of a brilliant public relations campaign.

  458. Alden says:
    @Rurik

    Step father is the man to woman guy? Gal? Bruce Jenner

    Kim Kardashian’s father in law is the father of that ugly black guy she’s married to. That is, if her husband has a known father.

    Such is the genius of mamma Chris Jenner. Take a grotesquely shaped fat girl with an OK face, bribe the very slim and pretty Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie to include Kim in a few tabloid photos and pimp several daughters into the tabloids and hundreds of millions of dollars.

    Paris and Nicole had the sense to retire from their Tabloid careers young. Nicole’s now a happily married Mommy. Paris lives a quiet life too.

    Such is the power of the press, TV and public relations.

  459. Alden says:
    @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree

    I respect world wide Islam as a powerful world force for 1500 years. But I have no respect at all for American black Muslims despite the head scarves and modest dresses a few of the women are purported to wear.

    Because

    Virtually all the converts to American black Islam since 1960 are male convicted career criminals converted while in prison.

    Who can respect a religion whose membership consists of male career criminals? If American black Islam had anything at all to offer but protection from Muslim prison inmates, ordinary, regular black men and women would convert.

    But normal blacks don’t join your alleged religion. Only career criminals in prison to be protected from NOI inmates.

    Your founder, Mr Fard, wasn’t black at all but a White man of Portuguese descent from Hawaii who claimed to be black.

    No other branch of Islam Sunni shite alawite sufi Arab central Asian consider American NOI to be Muslims at all. Real Muslim theologians have had meetings about this and have concluded your lunatic criminal sect is not Muslim at all

    Your looney sect of career criminals are in violation of one of the 2 principles of Islam, that Mohammad back in 600 AD is the only prophet.

    You’re not even real Muslims according to every Muslim theologian and every Muslim school of theology and branch

    There are plenty of real Muslim clergy and mosques in America. If blacks want to be Muslims they’re welcome.

    But don’t claim to be Muslims because you’re not.

  460. @jeff stryker

    The life of your average Jew is pleasant. Nice suburb, police are polite and deferential, nice schools.

    This posted in a thread about a rape by a mixed gang of blacks, latinoes and an arab in Central Park in New York city, with the largest Jewish population outside Jerusalem. I’m sure New York has nice schools. BTW do you know what “nice schools” is a code word for?

  461. Alden says:
    @Truth

    The small riot between black Africans and Chinese students happened several years before Tiananmen Square. If you were able to read my posts you would know that.

    Obviously you don’t know how to read. Peoria? Do you have an affirmative action for morons who can’t read degree from Carbondale the disgrace of the University if Illinois system?

    What’s it take to get into Carbondale? Write your name on the application?

    • Replies: @Truth
  462. @Thomm

    if WN wiggers…were given land on which to create their own country, it would be worse than Haiti or Somalia

    Or maybe Singapore:

    Two Germans to be caned, jailed for Singapore train graffiti

    • Troll: Clyde
  463. @Dave Pinsen

    The rest of Ann’s column, which includes quotes from the “Central Park Five” themselves:

    “I didn’t do nothing to her”

    Corect spelling is dindu…

  464. Alden says:
    @Feryl

    California is adversely affected with gazillions of do gooder grant hustlers. They are like farmers. But instead of living off herds and flocks of animals and poultry, the do gooders live off criminals, abused children drug addicts the insane dogs cats horses and chickens that need rescuing .

    The non profit do well by doing good sector is probably as big as the private sector. There are even master’s degrees in “ Social Justice Entrepreneurship “. It’s like the MBA for business majors. The Entrepreneurship consists of grant hustling , begging for donations and finding ever more unfortunates to expand the herds and flocks from which the do gooders make a living.

    Like heroin addicts need grant hustlers to give them needles.

  465. Alden says:
    @jeff stryker

    According to the extensive auto biography you’ve posted over the years, the only time you spent in California was one week in the slums of the Los Angeles San Fernando Valley porn district. I remember that post well. Your hotel was surrounded by dumpster diving homeless. Prostitutes solicited day and night. Every building in the neighborhood was a porn studio

    But nothing about drug addicts.

  466. Alden says:
    @jeff stryker

    If you think the Kardashians are American royalty you are dumber than I thought and I always thought you are dumb as well as noticing you are a liar.

  467. Alden says:
    @Crimson2

    She was in her 8os and had a caretaker because of dementia when an anti White crusader Tyson Till claimed her interviewed her and she admitted she lied.

    There is no proof other thatvwhat anti White crusader Till claimed. He was heavily involved in the false accusations against the Duke Lacrosse team.

    Till; any relation to Emmet Till? I wouldn’t be surprised.
    One less rapist out of the gene pool before he could reproduce.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
  468. Alden says:
    @Rurik

    Jeff claims he doesn’t live in America. I believe that because he is so ignorant about America. His posts are all derived from reading something and posting about it.

    Most of us post about what we know. Jeff reads something in the South China News or the internet and then posts it as his own opinion. I’ve come to disbelieve everything he posts.

    For instance, the poverty stricken grandmother he spent his teen years with in the White slums of Detroit is now a tenured suburban school teacher. He spent a week in Los Angeles and knows everything about California. Every resident of his Michigan college town was a poverty stricken low IQ drug addicted White trash redneck.

    His constant attacks on White trash red necks makes him seen like an 80 year old Jew.

    Whoever he is or wherever he lives, he’s a strange one

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
    , @Rurik
  469. @Alden

    ALDEN

    I lived with my grandparents in Warren, which borders on Detroit. Previous to this, I was born and raised in Ann Arbor, about 30 miles away from Detroit.

    Really? Do old Jews talk about white trash? Probably not. They just see white as white and Gentile as Gentile. They don’t see things in class terms, as whites see other whites.

    One curious refrain is that Jews are somehow perceived as an upper-class.

    Anyhow, I am not Jewish.

    • Replies: @Alden
  470. @Truth

    Ah, finally some truth leaks out.

  471. AceDeuce says:
    @Alden

    It’s Timothy Tyson. You misread one of my posts.

  472. @Crimson2

    At first glance, you seemed retarded, but now I can see that you’re a mongoloid. You don’t know the difference between ancestors and descendants, but it would be pointless to explain it to you.

  473. Truth says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Hey, another cute one Grasshopper. You see, i always new there was a reason I kept mentoring you, even though everyone else here tells me you are a simple, dull, humorless, negligible, peice of pond slime!

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  474. @Alden

    ALDEN

    There are no Irish-Americans in Detroit. There used to be Polish, but their events in Detroit ended in 1992 when a group of black women beat a Polish-American woman and nearly garroted her attempting to steal her pearls-this was caught on videotape.

    Polish were the last whites to vacate Detroit.

    What surprises me is your own interactions with Jews. I never realized so many lived in Southern California. Your own posts reflect a fairly negative impression of them.

  475. Truth says:
    @Alden

    Hey Aldey, I tried but you have to cut me some slack: we don’t all have the intellect it takes to guard a chow line and tell prisoners to pee in a vial.

    • Replies: @Alden
  476. Mr. Anon says:
    @Truth

    As expected, nothing original from step-n-fetchit “Truth”. Your act dates back to about 1895; you really need new material.

    • Replies: @Truth
  477. @Alden

    Capitalist pigs…Sounds so Mansonesque and Hippiesque….Power to the People!

    sixties never end in California…

  478. Alden says:
    @jeff stryker

    So now it’s the city of Warren not the city of Detroit. You posted many times they lived in the White slums of the city of Detroit and you attended a city of Detroit high school with White, not black teen age drug addicts and prostitues. Why not write down your stories and get them straight?

  479. Alden says:
    @Truth

    I wasn’t a jail guard. That’s a job for affirmative action black morons.

    • Replies: @Truth
  480. Vojkan says:

    So, let me see if I get this straight. The gang of five was awarded $41 million of city (people’s) money because there’s conclusive evidence that they did the violence but there’s unconclusive evidence they did the rape i.e. NYC rewarded them with a more than comfortable existence for going only partial, not full Clockwork Orange?

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  481. @Vojkan

    The end of that film, where Alex was compensated by the Minister, was remarkably prescient.

    • Replies: @Vojkan
  482. HHSIII says:
    @Sam Coulton

    The court “threw out” the case because that’s what the DA recommended. The court didn’t award them millions really. It approved a settlement that awarded them millions. Hard to say what would have resulted from a trial on their claims of improper prosecution.

  483. @Alden

    Sorry to upend your straw man, but I love many women, including first of all my dear wife and my mother, as well as sisters, cousins, and close women friends. And our daughters 🙂

    And I have no objection to contraception per se, though the size of our family suggests that we are personally unable to figure it out 😉

    As for abortion, whether you’re for mostly legal abortion or not, it should be easy to recognize the grave moral distinction between killing a distinct human being and preventing a sperm and an egg from meeting or from fertilizing. I’d go with the Tenth Amendment solution, letting the people of each State decide their own abortion laws.

    Again as to abortion, it seems that a number of commenters here have come to the sad realization that without widespread legal abortion in the USA, we would have been outnumbered, thoroughly impoverished, and physically subjugated or wiped out already by our angrier, more impulsive, less intelligent, more violent bruthas.

    I agree that it is unwise to extend welfare to Africans and other hostile or hard-to-assimilate/incompatible peoples in our country, and that doing so tends to encourage them to have even more children at taxpayer expense.

    Were you characterizing any commenter(s) here specifically?

    • Replies: @Alden
  484. @Truth

    The Swedes did not throw themselves under tanks on Tiananmen Square for that reason or any other, you’re right.

  485. Truth says:
    @Alden

    Oh. Excuse me. Going to their homes to give them a cup to pee in.

    • Replies: @Alden
  486. Truth says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Stepin Fechit wasn’t born untill the 20th century, and was still making movies in the 1950s, Sport.

  487. @Alden

    I must have missed that vote —-

    Say it an’t so.

    • Replies: @Alden
  488. @AceDeuce

    “guilty of everything they were charged with.”

    Exactly. They were charged with much more than raping the jogger.

    https://www.nytimes.com/1990/06/29/nyregion/at-jogger-trial-a-rescuer-tells-of-gang-attack.html

    “A New York City school teacher testified yesterday that a gang of youths beat him unconscious last year when he paused while jogging along the Central Park reservoir to help a man he said the youths had thrown to the ground and were attacking.

    ”One of the youths demanded ‘what was I looking at,’ and another yelled, ‘What are you, a vigilante?’ ” said John Loughlin, the last victim of a rampage on the night of April 19, 1989, that the police said included the rape and attempted murder minutes earlier of a 29-year-old woman who had been jogging.

    ”Then they all picked up on the cry ‘vigilante, vigilante,’ and I don’t remember what happened next,” Mr. Loughlin said, ”except that I was face down on the ground and I was hit in the face twice. I put up my arms to ward off the blows, and I asked them, ‘Hey, fellas, why are you doing this? Stop. Stop,’ but they wouldn’t.” #3 Youths on Trial The youths let the other man go. The man, Robert Garner, a 30-year-old British Airways research analyst, was not seriously injured.

    Mr. Loughlin, who received multiple injuries, said the police took him to St. Luke’s-Roosevelt Hospital Center.

    Six youths are charged with the attack on the woman and with beating and robbing Mr. Loughlin. His testimony yesterday in State Supreme Court in Manhattan, given evenly and without emotion, came on the fourth day of trial for three defendants: Antron McCray, 16; Raymond Santana, 15, and Yusef Salaam, 16.

    The three others – Kevin Richardson, 15; Steven Lopez, 16, and Kharey Wise, 17 – will be tried later.

    In written and videotaped statements, the three youths now on trial have admitted taking part in the rape and near fatal beating of the woman and the attack on Mr. Loughlin, 34, a tall ex-marine.

    A seventh youth, Jermaine Robinson, 16, pleaded guilty on Oct. 5, 1989, to the attack on Mr. Loughlin, and defense lawyers anticipate that he will be a prosecution witness.

    An eighth defendant, Michael Briscoe, 18, pleaded guilty to the attack on another jogger, David Lewis, who testified on Wednesday.

    Confessions Used as Evidence

    In statements taken by the police shortly after their arrest, the youths said they first suspected Mr. Loughlin was a police officer. When they discovered he was not, they said they all jumped on him and beat him with branches, bricks and a length of pipe. They said they stole his small radio, but threw it away later because it would not play cassettes.

    Mr. Loughlin said he recognized one of his assailants several days after he was attacked when the defendants, by then under arrest, were shown on a television news program.

    One Assailant Identified

    ”You recognized one of them?” asked Assistant District Attorney Elizabeth Lederer.

    ”Yes,” Mr. Loughlin replied. ”It was the kid who spoke to me.”

    Ms. Lederer asked Mr. Loughlin if he recognized him again in a police lineup. ”Yes, I did,” he replied. But she did not ask him to identify him yesterday before the jury.

    Defense lawyers said the man identified by Mr. Loughlin is Mr. Robinson, who received a maximum of one year in prison for his plea.

    To show the jury the extent of Mr. Loughlin’s injuries, Ms. Lederer then placed into evidence 17 large color photographs taken at the hospital that showed his blackened eyes, swollen and disfigured face and numerous welts throughout his body.

    She also placed before the jury the blood-splattered military camouflage jacket and trousers that Mr. Loughlin wore on the night he was attacked.”

    ******

    The conviction for battering Loughlin was vacated as well.

    Fuck this country. Fuck this system. Let it all fall.

    • Agree: AceDeuce
    • Replies: @eah
  489. Rurik says:
    @Alden

    Whoever he is or wherever he lives, he’s a strange one

    lol

    yep

  490. eah says:
    @Jane Plain

    The conviction for battering Loughlin was vacated as well.

    Nur als Ergänzung: upon the recommendation of a Jew.

    • Replies: @Jane Plain
  491. @Anon

    Since you’re being civil, I’ll answer.

    I have no idea if they are guilty. None. I don’t make judgments based on mass media reports. That would be stupid.

    I do, however, radically oppose railroading and miscarriages of justice. It is more important to prevent the innocent from being framed than it is for the guilty to be convicted. This is a principle of law.

    Mumia Abu Jamal is a similar case. I have no idea if he did it or not. I cannot tell from reading the mass media–and neither can anybody else if they are honest. But I am reasonably sure that he was railroaded.

    Railroading ought to be curtailed and punished whenever possible. Because it doesn’t just affect these “test cases.” It might well affect any one of us law-abiding citizens. Imagine yourself in the wrong place at the wrong time and a prosecutor needing re-election. Watch a Hitchcock movie.

    On the other hand, I agree with Joan Didion (I urge you to read her “Sentimental Journeys”) that thousands of women were raped in New York the same day. Most of them were black. Nobody gave a shit about them. Why, one should ask oneself, is this particular case being rammed down our throats again and again and again? In other words, if you or me or anybody gets all het up over this one case, ON EITHER SIDE, GUILTY OR NOT, we are doing our masters’ bidding. Test cases are for diverting the masses.

    This happens again and again and again. Especially on organs like this one. People get their tunnel vision going and argue and argue and argue about some “test case” and don’t look at what is called the big picture. The big picture is, we are being manipulated. Even your question, and my answer, are manipulations. We are doing as instructed by our manipulators. I will now sign off, realizing that I have just been manipulated.

  492. @jeff stryker

    California is the number one most “class-stratified” state in the nation. You know nothing.

  493. Anon[198] • Disclaimer says:
    @obwandiyag

    Thank you. We agree far more than you might ever imagine.

    So what do we do about it? Even at age 76, I am not ready to give up. Maybe that has something to do with my five grandchildren.

    We need to restore Social Trust and that will take respect and tolerance of cultural differences within the context of the rule of law. I don’t see any of our “leaders” working on these principles.

  494. eah says:
    @obwandiyag

    thousands of women were raped in New York the same day

    You don’t say — I assume you’re talking about NYC.

    From the NYT, Jan 06 2019 — As the Number of Reported Rapes Climb, Mayor Points to #MeToo

    Mayor Bill de Blasio at a news conference in October. End-of-year crime statistics show that in New York City reported rapes increased 22.4 percent, to 1,795 in 2018.

    If there were 1795 reported rapes in NYC in all of 2018, it seems rather unlikely that “thousands” of women were raped in NYC on the same day of the ‘Central Park Jogger’ attack.

    And if a rape is not reported, how do we know it happened? — and even then, you don’t really know.

    I have no idea if they are guilty. None. I don’t make judgments based on mass media reports. That would be stupid.

    In the ‘Central Park Jogger’ case, there’s no reason to rely on “mass media reports” — in two separate trials, the accused were found guilty to the ‘beyond a reasonable doubt’ standard.

    Kleiner Hinweis: It’s not a good idea to make a fool of yourself in internet comment sections.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
  495. USA 1943 says:
    @AceDeuce

    EVEN Fab 5 Freddy says the Central Park 5 was Innocent, He said Donald Trump owes the Central Park 5 an apology for putting out an 85k ad calling for the death penalty, Fab 5 Freddy said The Central Park 5 were Salt of the Earth, Model Citizens who like Jesus before them were prosecuted in spite of having gone through life without a sin.

  496. USA 1943 says:
    @Tusk

    In fairness Chris Cuomo who is White and the brother of the New York Governor says the fact the City awarded them over 40 Million is proof of their innocence.

    • LOL: eah
  497. Alden says:
    @RadicalCenter

    I don’t know which of my numerous abortion posts you mean but here are some of the points I keep making but first some personal things

    I truly believe that abortion is killing murder even the fertile egg. But I’m still for abortion

    We have 4 kids and 8 grandchildren and I can’t stand all these White men who had 1 or 2 children pontificating on the internet that
    “White woman should have more children “ but never mentioning that it takes a man and a woman to make a baby.

    Legal abortion was a big cause funded as early as the mid fifties by Hugh Hefner if Playbiy magazine. It benefited the men who made babies they didn’t want to support much more than the women they impregnated. It was the best deal for promiscuous men ever.

    There were far more abortions before it was legalized because of

    Early widespread marriage. When 90 percent of women marry in their early 2o’s that means just more years to have babies. A Woman who marries at 30 has only 12 years tops. realistically 20 years.

    Most important lack of reliable birth control. By the time abortion was legalized there was reliable birth control.

    Abortion wasn’t illegal in Europe and the America’s until the late 19th century. Miscarriages still births death in the first few months maybe at least 1/3 babies born were dead before age 5. 8 pregnancies, 2 or 3 miscarriages 2 or 3 deaths 3,4 maybe 5 children raised to adult hood was standard.

    The great Theologian and philosopher Thomas Aquinas decided in medieval times that the soul entered the body at about 5 months when the baby started kicking.

    But, and this important the Catholic Church that ruled Western Europe in these matters never decreed that those 5 to 9 month babies shoukd be baptized if they were miscarried or dead when born. In other words, they weren’t alive till they were born live.

    For centuries reproduction was in the hands of midwives who advised on birth control fertility and performed abortions which were not illegal and delivered babies. It was a women’s occupation although some male Drs delivered babies and there were some male midwives in France.

    So, all over the Christian world of the European people’s abortion was not illegal.

    England and France 1850 were the leading countries in medical research and advances. Among other things, they started keeping statistics.

    The all male English Drs wanted to expand their sphere and take the obstetrics business away from the midwives.

    As more women began seeing male Drs for oby gyny issues and statistics were kept the Drs noticed the hundreds of thousands of English women married at 20, lived with their husbands all their lives and had only 2 or 3 admitted pregnancies How could this be?

    There were hundreds of health spas that cured menstrual problems actually performing abortions. Newspapers were full of ads selling tonics to “bring on the menses “ or kill the embryo fetus .

    Do you know what pennyroyal is? It’s a pretty little plant that grows wild and makes a beautiful ground cover. It’s like thyme baby tears and other pretty ground covers. Anyway, it’s a sure fire abortifacant, even a perfect morning after pill. Dosage is tricky as too much can kill the mother too. All the midwives and herb woman and witches all over the world knew about it.

    Back to England 1860. Because abortion was a non licensed herbal remedy midwives business, the English Drs went after it. Massive publicity about the baby killing ensued. The Pope declared abortion murder and sinful for Catholics in 1869 I think. By 1880 abortion was illegal in most of the Christian lands of Europe and the America’s.

    Late 19th century was an era of wimen’s movements. The same Mrs Buttinskys who crusaded for women’s right to vote and community property and prohibitionand vegetarianism and other causes crusaded to make abortion a crime for mother and especially whoever performed abortions

    Of course 80 years later the same feminists were crusading for legalized abortion

    That’s it. Abortion didn’t become illegal in our European American Christian heritage world till the mid / late 19th century and it was legalized 100 years later by the same feminists who helped criminalize it 100 years before.

    Once more, the Playboy Magazine foundation provide most of the funding for legal abortion beginning mid late 1950s because legal abortion would because it would benefit men by getting rid of the babies they’d otherwise have to support.

    We could have supported 8 or more kids in reasonable comfort because of my husband’s income. How many anti abortion men can say the same?

    The anti abortion men want to support hordes of blacks and browns on welfare and in prison but can’t afford to have big White families

    The enemy is bartering down our walls and our own people are opening the gates. And idiot White men want to criminalize abortion which will produce more blacks and browns to overwhelm us with a combination of numbers and affirmative action.

    Heard Elizabeth Warren’s latest campaign promise? Instead of SBA loans ( which are never repaid anyway) she wants to give free SBA grants to Indian and Asian entrepreneurs to start their crooked businesses. White men have been banned from SBA loans for decades.

    And the major issue for conservative White men is the production of more black and brown babies by criminalizing abortion.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @RadicalCenter
  498. Alden says:
    @Truth

    All I did was convince judges to send them off to maximum terms in state prison. Never went to their homes. Nothing to do with their use of drugs. Only dealt with crimes they committed against people and their property.

  499. Alden says:
    @Thomm

    I saw in the news today that it bombed Friday and Saturday. Speculation is that audiences are tired of retreads and that Samuel Jackson is too old to play a 30 year old.

    Good that it bombed and black films don’t do well in the huge Asian market.

  500. Vojkan says:
    @jeff stryker

    Which nihilism is worse, that of Alex or that of society that makes an instrument of him to project a good image of itself? In Crime and Punishment, Raskolnikov is redeemed by love and beauty, in Kubrick’s film, to “socialise” Alex by ridding him of his violent impulses, society destroys the one possibly redeeming trait of his personality, the love for Ludwig van’s music. Instead of redemption, they give him compensation. Instead of redeeming him, beauty sends him to his death. Prescient indeed. I just don’t know how progressives can love that film.

  501. “The great Theologian and philosopher Thomas Aquinas decided in medieval times that the soul entered the body at about 5 months when the baby started kicking.”

    Nothing like relying on the theoretical frames of early theologians speculations about something they absolutely nothing.

    And for the life of me, why anyone would take seriously the comments of someone who says ” abortion is killing humans but I support it any way is beyond me because the internal ethical violations destroys basic moral coding. And that concern for acceptance is compounded by the admission that this same individual is involved in adjudicating anyone’s legal proceedings any where for any reason.

    When the soul enters a human being is utterly out of reach for our human brains to grasp or comprehend. The point of fact is that murdering children in the womb at any stage is to be rejected. As are the claims of anyone acknowledging killing the innocent and then proceeding to supporting it.

    Good grief.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  502. @obwandiyag

    ” But I am reasonably sure that he was railroaded”

    Look friend you can’t fool anyone with your pseudo neutral approach, as far as you are concerned any and all POC who have ever been accused and convicted of a crime of violence, they were all “Railroaded”.

    ” The big picture is we are being manipulated”

    Just who is “We”, I am not being manipulated by anybody, as I can see through the BS which is relentlessly flung by the mostly leftist media, however someone with your limited intellect, your double-digit IQ, yeah you are being manipulated, and you can’t even sense it yourself.

    AJM

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
  503. @eah

    Yep, destroying the good work of two Jews: Fairstein and Elizabeth Lederer.

    If you read about the history of the vacating, it was done on the recommendation of one Nancy Ryan, who had a personal vendetta against Fairstein, and Peter Casolaro.

    • Replies: @eah
    , @David In TN
  504. eah says:
    @Jane Plain

    The Establishment has really lost its mind over this case:

    Elizabeth Lederer, Prosecutor of Central Park Five, Resigns From Columbia Law

    Of course many years have passed since the trials, with all the evidence that led to convictions in two separate trials by two separate juries — all that’s left is ‘the narrative’, which dominates — it’s like the jury trials never happened, and Lederer and Fairstein, the latter in particular, are being pilloried.

    The author Julia Jacobs is probably also a Jew.

  505. @Jane Plain

    Yes, rivalries within the Manhattan DA’s office played a part.

  506. @obwandiyag

    You are the one making judgments on “mass media reports.” And you’re shall we say irony-challenged.

    People of Joan Dideon’s persuasion don’t “give a shit” when white women are raped, white middle class and working class women in particular.

    Black folks, unless they are family members of victims, never express any outrage about black on black crime, unless they can find a way to blame white people.

    The supporters of the “Central Park 5” are the ones “ramming this particular case down our throats again and again and again.”

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
  507. eah says:
    @Anonymous

    Your comment is a real gem.

    I haven’t read the original court documents,…

    I see.

    …but what has been reported in the media is:

    You forgot to add ‘for what that’s worth’ — this is the same media that today wants to pretend the original trials never happened, focusing only on the ‘narrative’.

    But are they guilty beyond a reasonable doubt? I’d say no.

    So you admit to being largely unfamiliar with the court proceedings, and therefore with the evidence, as well as forming your opinion mostly via media reports, which are biased in favor of the non-white defendants (the ‘narrative’) — yet in two separate trials, after seeing all the evidence and hearing all the testimony, including cross-examination, two different juries found the defendants guilty to the ‘beyond a reasonable doubt’ standard.

    How do you explain that?

    …he should consider applying that skepticism equally, without considering the skin color of those involved.

    You should demand that of/tell that to the media.

    Idiot.

  508. anon[278] • Disclaimer says:

    My name is Cuck. I don’t live around Blackies, never will, but will defend them no matter what since they dindu nuffin.

  509. Anonymous [AKA "Rojo Epstein"] says:

    No one ethnic group, or minority has a monopoly on criminal activity, and neither can a blanket statement be made about a “race” The facts will not allow for it.
    Unless you’re not interested in the truth

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Rich
  510. anon[423] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    He’s proud of his Mulatto grandson.

  511. Precious says:
    @Sam Coulton

    you’re confused. new york murder law isn’t assault law, and the CP5 were acquitted of attempted murder.

    Are they different? I don’t know, do you?

    jurors reached a guilty verdict based on oldschool physical evidence, not the confessions of CP5 individuals.

    In court, Minton said, the jurors were “riveted” as they watched the tapes of the teenagers’ interrogations.

    “The looks on the jurors’ faces when they watched those videotapes told a devastating story for the defense. You could see it. The jurors were engaged,” he said. “They nodded their heads in some cases. They were disgusted.”

    yet still, jury and judge decisions get thrown out all the time with the objectively superior evidence that is DNA. in the 21st century no one would ever be convicted of rape based on questionable confessions,

    Whose fault is it the Central Park Five decided to go out and have some fun in Central Park in the 20th Century instead of the 21st century? And if they had done this in the 21st century, the police would have collected DNA from all over the crime scene which they did not do in this case.

    And whose confession is more questionable than Reyes’ confession?

    • Replies: @eah
  512. Rich says:
    @Anonymous

    Well, Red, that’s a mighty “tolerant” position for you to take. Trouble is, blacks in the US commit crimes at a higher rate than any other group, if I’m not mistaken I Believe it’s 5 times their population. They lead in all the stats, murder, rape, assault, robbery, and 3 pointers. The facts not only allow for it, they prove it.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  513. eah says:
    @Precious

    And whose confession is more questionable than Reyes’ confession?

    His DNA was matched to semen found at the scene — so there seems no doubt he raped or sexually assaulted her — but his claim of being the sole attacker was and is ludicrous given all the evidence, including the confessions — it should never have been believed/accepted.

    link

    Robert Kurtz was the director of the surgical intensive-care unit at Metropolitan Hospital supervising Ms. Meili’s recovery during her approximately seven weeks there after the April 19, 1989 attack…The doctor, now 72, said city lawyers litigating the case have never contacted him…”There had to be another individual or a group who inflicted injuries with a sharp-edged instrument if he only used a blunt object,” Dr. Kurtz said…Jane Haher, the former chief of plastic surgery at Metropolitan, said she examined Ms. Meili the day after the attack. Dr. Haher said what she saw on Ms. Meili’s legs, which were swollen with fluids, was something “I’ll never forget as long as I live.”…There were several sets of handprints, as if left on clay, indented on Ms. Meili’s thighs, calves, ankles and behind her knees, Dr. Haher said. That indicated to her that “people held her legs down while somebody did this horrible act.”

    Part of the confessions was that she was held down.

    The whole thing is a fucking disgrace.

  514. anonymous[429] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden

    I truly believe that abortion is killing murder even the fertile egg. But I’m still for abortion

    And I likewise believe that murder is killing murder. But I’m still for murder…

    • Replies: @Alden
  515. @Wally

    Not the least bit surprising that Juden Tube would terminate the CODOH account. However, for it to ban CODOH for violating it’s prohibition against “hate” speech is the the ultimate in hypocrisy and disingenuity.
    Nothing generates more hatred than that of liars or hoaxers when confronted with their lies or the exposing of their hoaxes.
    The Jewish Holocaust is a lie and a hoax repeated more than 6,000,000 times!

  516. @David In TN

    You are a complete nincompoop. You know nothing of the case. I do not doubt that you are a hillbilly. And a childish one too. From a very close family.

  517. @eah

    Insufferable pedant. Thinks it knows all about something it knows nothing about. And doesn’t even understand my argument. (Or else understands it all too well, sees its incontestability, and diverts to trivia as its ilk often do.) Obviously didn’t read Didion. Obviously doesn’t read much at all. Just copies and pastes irrelevant nonsense.

    • LOL: eah
    • Replies: @eah
  518. You know, your kind are politically correct, too. Your kind of political correctness prevents you from asking what the hell she was doing jogging in Central Park in the middle of the night? Who does that?

  519. Precious says:
    @obwandiyag

    what the hell she was doing jogging in Central Park in the middle of the night?

    Exercising her white privilege.

  520. @Rich

    What, Rich, 5 times the rate of whites?! That sounds like a monopoly, man. Someone from the Federal Trade Commission ought to get involved.

  521. `Something does not add up here.
    Old case: five men made an assault on her (Trisha) injured her and one of them did rape her.
    New case: one person admitted to rape. (different) no helpers here.
    So what happened to helpers? (They evaporated?)
    Woman should have remembered if one man was around, or several.
    ……………………………………………………………………………………………
    This case proves again that everybody stupid.

  522. @Ron Unz

    Oh, well. I was repeating what I’d read in a Sunday Daily News feature (“The Justice Story”?) about 20 years ago.

    Can’t I accept ANYTHING I read in the funny papers at face value?

  523. eah says:
    @obwandiyag

    Obviously didn’t read Didion.

    I don’t need to read Didion to refute the fucking nonsense in your idiotic comment you moron.

    Like I said: it’s not a good idea to make yourself look like a fool in internet comment sections — it’s an even worse idea to make a habit of it, since that makes it extremely difficult to take you seriously — you do want to be taken seriously, right? — otherwise why bother commenting.

    And learn to take it like a man when someone, even a “pedant” like me, points out your nonsense.

    Now run along and collate the “thousands” of women who were raped in NYC on the night of the attack on the woman in the park — and remember: you wrote that nonsense, not me — I just noted it was nonsense.

    • Replies: @David In TN
    , @obwandiyag
  524. @eah

    I would add that he’s stupid enough to write for the Washington Post.

  525. Vojkan says:
    @obwandiyag

    Checked a few things before answering. Central Park is owned by the department of the NYC govt in charge of NYC parks, which means it’s not private property. There was no curfew in NYC at the time. so she had any right to be out. No regulation, no fence prevented her from being there. I suppose therefore that she was just exercising her right to free movement in a non-restricted area. Was it prudent? It appears it wasn’t. Imprudence doesn’t justify aggression. Judging by your remark, you may also consider that girls shouldn’t complain after being raped if they were wearing miniskirts.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
  526. @Alden

    I respect world wide Islam as a powerful world force for 1500 years. But I have no respect at all for American black Muslims despite the head scarves and modest dresses a few of the women are purported to wear.

    Because

    Virtually all the converts to American black Islam since 1960 are male convicted career criminals converted while in prison.

    You’ve got it exactly backward.

    Arab Islam is a cult because the penalty for apostasy (leaving) is death.

    Arab Islam mandates murder or enslavement of the non-compliant. Those of us who know Jesus as God Incarnate are seen as among the non-compliant because we believe Jesus’ teachings about the Divine Triune God of Father, Son and Holy Spirit, a mystery of faith beyond the capacity of the human mind to fathom, but Arab Islam adherents call us blasphemous poly-theists for our rightful recognition of the Triune God.

    Non-black adherents to Arab Islam have a foul name for blacks including those ensnared in Arab Islam and are brutal toward blacks including enslaving them to this day in Arabia and Africa, let alone that historically Arab Muslims were the great exploiters of black enslavement, as much so or maybe even more so than Jews. The recent genocidal slaughter of black adherents to Arab Islam by Arab Muslims in Darfur is present day proof of Arab Islam’s contempt for blacks regardless of their beliefs.

    Arab Islam allows a man three wives plus as many women as concubines “as his right hand possesses” which means slave women. That’s polygamy, one of the most detrimental lifestyles ever. All of the great, world-leading accomplishments of The West, Christendom, spring from Jesus’ rule of no sex outside valid marriage, valid marriage being one where neither spouse has a living former spouse – in other words no polygamy and no serial monogamy which is only a form a polygamy.

    The US-based Nation of Islam led by Farrakhan appears to practice lifelong monogamy via marriage as Jesus mandated. Farrakhan himself appears to be exemplifying such a life after 65 years of marriage and preaching the same to his followers.

    I know of no mandate of the NOI requiring its members to murder or enslave as Arab Islam clearly mandates. No one can change their past, but if NOI is reforming ex-cons that’s for the better if they are able to avoid future lawlessness under NOI guidance.

    These comments on NOI relate to behavior here on earth, far more civilized than Arab Islam.

    Sadly, NOI fails to recognize the Divinity of Jesus and the Holy Spirit with God the Father as the Triune God who is God alone.

    Jesus came down here to say “No one comes to The Father except through me.”

    We of Jesus wish all of humanity would come to Him so as to have eternal life in His Father’s House.

  527. @obwandiyag

    Believe it or not, you silly boy, that there was a time when walking alone at night in a city was perfectly safe. That was a time before, you know, feral negros were running around everywhere.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
    , @obwandiyag
    , @Hola
  528. Jerome says:
    @Truth

    He claimed to have acted alone. Forensic evidence showed multiple assailants.

    • Replies: @Truth
  529. You should see YouTube vids on this ; Black racists galore, dominating the comments, spewing all their typically ignorant( maybe that should be “NIGGnorant” – far worse than mere ignorance ) mindsets,attitudes, beliefs, Urban legends, regarding the guilty, ALL Whites ,and the Prosecution, especially, Linda Fairstein.

  530. Truth says:
    @Alden

    I have no respect at all for American black Muslims despite the head scarves and modest dresses a few of the women are purported to wear.Because

    Virtually all the converts to American black Islam since 1960 are male convicted career criminals converted while in prison.

    Well if it has helped to reform them, that is more reason to have respect.

    Your founder, Mr Fard, wasn’t black at all but a White man of Portuguese descent from Hawaii who claimed to be black.

    This may or may not be true, no one knows, and anyone who says they know whether he was part black or not is lying. He’s been dead 80 years.

    But don’t claim to be Muslims because you’re not.

    I thought you thought all religions were fake. Or is that just Christianity?

    • Replies: @Alden
  531. Truth says:
    @Jerome

    Again, there is no evidence that these boys committed rape. 15 year olds don’t get life sentences for assault and battery. If you don’t like it, move to NY and run for mayor so you can change the laws.

    • Replies: @eah
    , @Rich
  532. @eah

    Typical Unz asshole liar.

    Just like all your buddies, you can’t refute what I said, so you divert with trivia.

    Your second post and all you can do is repeat your trivia.

    In other words, you cannot refute my actual point, which you are apparently too stupid to even read.

    And yes, you do have to read Joan Didion, or else you are a stupid, ignorant lying asshole.

    Since all you can do is repeat your ignorant bullshit, I’ll repeat that you are a pathetic loser basement dweller gasfarting asshole.

  533. @Authenticjazzman

    You are so stupid you don’t even know what I am talking about. Just shut up. No one wants to hear you meaningless blithering.

  534. @MikeatMikedotMike

    See, you politically correct sissy social justice warrior loser. You prove my point for me very well. You people are so naive.

  535. eah says:
    @Truth

    Again, there is no evidence that these boys committed rape.

    You are wrong — “again”, a general problem with your comments on this website is that you are either being an asshole, or you’re just plain wrong.

    DNA obtained from semen found on the victim did not match any of the defendants at the two trials — it was a well-known at the time that all the perpetrators were not in custody.

    But their own semen was found on the clothes of several defendants — this is strong circumstantial evidence that they sexually assaulted the victim, if not raped her.

    Everything considered, after the Reyes confession and semen match, it was best to vacate any/all convictions for sexual assault or rape against the original defendants (not necessarily because they were innocent of those offenses) — but Reyes’ claim that he was the sole attacker was always contrary to the evidence, and just plain ridiculous — it should never have been accepted, nor used to justify vacating the convictions on the other counts.

    THE CENTRAL PARK FIVE JOGGER ATTACKERS — Guilty – In Their Own Words — this site has many facts about the case, including all of the confession videos.

    • Replies: @Truth
  536. AceDeuce says:
    @Vojkan

    Police estimate the time she was attacked at 9 PM. Hardly the middle of the night.

    Ask that clown who wrote that what Trayboon Martin was doing out at night.

    • LOL: eah
  537. songbird says:
    @Jake

    Since you mentioned “Numinous Negro” and there has been some discussion of streaming media in this thread… I watched the 1979 Clint Eastwood movie Escape from Alcatraz a while back, and was surprised to see Clint being tutored by an all-wise black man, on how to escape.

    Maybe, the worst example I’ve seen, since Guinan on Star Trek: TNG, or since Norman Rockwell’s luminous, spotless little black girl.

    • Replies: @MAOWASAYALI
  538. Rich says:
    @Truth

    This is why I can’t take any black person seriously. If a gang of White kids beat and/or raped a woman, no Whites would be arguing for their release. There wouldn’t be a single White commenter arguing the fine points of assault and sexual assault and the amount of time the kids should get. But you guys deserve these kids, I’m glad they live in your neighborhoods. Remember how bad NYC was pre-Giuliani? The worst of the crime was in the dark part of town. Now with all this “reform”, you guys are going to get what you asked for. Good and hard.

    • Agree: eah, David In TN, AceDeuce
  539. Why do you even bother coming here to comment? You have obvious contempt and none of your comments are appreciated. Why bother? You hate the site and the people commenting. Do you have nothing better to do than act an ass?

  540. Truth says:
    @eah

    Everything considered, after the Reyes confession and semen match, it was best to vacate any/all convictions for sexual assault or rape against the original defendants

    Great. Then about what are you arguing with me?

    • Replies: @eah
  541. eah says:
    @Truth

    Then about what are you arguing with me?

    How about this: there is no evidence that these boys committed rape — I excerpted your text right in my comment — there was evidence of sexual assault/rape: their confessions as well as physical evidence (semen found on their clothes) — in fact, there was so much evidence that in the first trial a jury of “four European Americans, four African Americans, four Latinos, and one Asian American” convicted them of both assault and rape — if there was “no evidence” of rape, why would a jury have decided they were guilty of rape to ‘beyond a reasonable doubt’?

    You fucking dishonest dumbass.

  542. @songbird

    The so-called “Numinous Negro” is a fantastic meme invented not by Blacks–who are powerless on their own–but by the Jews, who are all too powerful and run the Media Complex.

    When I say “fantastic,” I mean it is a fantasy and the complete opposite of reality.

    On the surface, the numinous negro is an overtly pro-Black meme, but just underneath the surface, it is also an insidiously covert anti-White meme, if not a stock character or typecast in just about every movie made by Jewish Hollywood since the 1950s.

    My first introduction to the numinous negro was as a child in the early 1970s watching Talmudvision; specifically in the person of Woody Strode in the “The Last Voyage.”

    Strode played the ever helpful black crew member who saves a White woman pinned under the wreckage caused by a boiler explosion aboard an aging ocean liner.

    Robert Stack was a well-built and muscular White actor, but next to Strode, he looked puny and for all intents and purposes, he had to play the White cuckolded husband because he was too physically weak to free his wife and save his family from the sinking ship.

    Moral of the Jewish movie: The White man and his family would have sunk with the ship had it not been for the numinous and hyper-masculine Black man in the shape of Woody Strode. 

    Woody Strode is perhaps better known for playing the numinous negro in Stanley Kubrick’s 1960 “Spartacus”. Here is the famous and often-played clip from that movie that the Jews just love to show the goyim to drive home the point that Blacks are not our enemies but our saviors:

    Curiously, Woody Strode was only partially or genetically “Black African”; he was mostly “Native American Indian” (i.e. Mongoloid) as is Dwayne Johnson aka ‘The Rock,’ whose mother is Samoan and whose father is a ‘Black Nova Scotian’ from Canada (i.e. mulatto).

    Note the similar “Asiatic” facial features of the 2 “Black men,” which prompts me to wonder why the Jews don’t ever use a 100% pure Black African to play their fantastical magical negroes?

    Photo of Woody Strode in Spartacus:

    Photo of Dwayne Johnson, the latest Woody Strode and newest numinous negro:

  543. @Daniel H

    True, but have elected republicans given a damn about the constitution either?

  544. “This is why I can’t take any black person seriously. If a gang of White kids beat and/or raped a woman, no Whites would be arguing for their release. ”

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/texas-gang-rape-how-a-horrific-case-is-dividing-a-town

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/10/28/california.gang.rape.bystander/

    https://www.nytimes.com/1998/05/01/us/gang-rape-of-three-girls-leaves-fresno-shaken-and-questioning.html

    The comment made obviously makes no sense in light of history. The record in the US is chocker block full cases in which boy, and men accused are defended by communities.

    Note: I if there is no corroborating evidence of a crime, it is not uncommon for cases to be sidelined in spite cofessions. Because confess to things they never do all the time.

    • Replies: @Rich
  545. buckwheat says:

    Any negro in prison is a good thing for law abiding people. They aren’t innocent no matter what the libtards and nignorants say………

    • Agree: Alden
  546. Rich says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Do you read your own links? The case in Cleveland, Texas was black rapists vs Mexicans. The Fresno case, from 1998 no less, was Mexicans. I’m not sure what the point of the link to a story about Kitty Genovese, a White woman raped and murdered by a Negro, has to do with your point, but, you sir, I believe, are losing it. In none of these cases were Whites making arguments to free rapists.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  547. cultural marxism at work
    communists and satanists control our government

  548. “Do you read your own links? The case in Cleveland, Texas was black rapists vs Mexicans. The Fresno case, from 1998 no less, was Mexicans. I’m not sure what the point of the link to a story about Kitty Genovese, a White woman raped and murdered by a Negro, has to do with your point, but, you sir, I believe . . .”

    And if you had any familiarity with my commentary on controversia issues you would know that as routine it is not uncommon for me to include source material that makes it clear that my position is not merely motivated oward some bias.
    I do so as a check against my own potential bias and being accused of the same. Excuse me for making that clear. Most people familiar with comments are so aware, but I think the point is made, whites do defend white males so accused.

    In other words, I include material that is not necessarily supportive of my position. Most people familiar with my position on issues oriented on color include data of both. Bottom line, whites are not any less inclined to contend in defe,nse of accused men, especially true when the matter involves youthful suspects.

    Furthermore since you persist on complaining about a scenario totally unsupported by the data. It’s historically the case that whites are eager to support thin thread accusations against any black of any age and defend whites.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  549. @EliteCommInc.

    “I’m not sure what the point of the link to a story about Kitty Genovese, a White woman raped and murdered by a Negro, has to do with your point, but, you sir, I believe, are losing it. In none of these cases were Whites making arguments to free rapists.”

    Ohhh, I see you took the story line of the Genovese case seriously. There is no Genovese Syndrome. The story line itself is incorrect. And as someone familiar with the story, it’s not about defending a rapist at all. That is not the point. Until the arrest no one knew who the murderer was as to skin color. You are so hyped on the color angle and rape you missed the central theme. That is of course that according to the story, eople- even whites will permit crimes against others by inaction.

    Note: the story line is inaccurate, but I suppose because the narrative ones from whites, you think it accurate. As accurate as you missing the point.

    ————————

    So you won’t be confused, this comment is about another perspective.

    Bottom line if grown adults can be convinced to confess to something they did not do, it might be fair assessment that kids are Even more likely to do so. They will even make up details to bolster the story they tell.

    If I said I am married to Miss Ann Coulter or Joely Richardson, you might very well ask me to prove it. And the lack of evidence would be cause to doubt me

    • Replies: @Rich
  550. @MikeatMikedotMike

    Not in New York, childish recluse. Never in history. Even the guy who built Central Park in the 19th century said you’d have to be nuts to go there at night. You people are such lonely untraveled provincials.

  551. Lack of evidence is akin to a negative to proof. In other words what this author and others arepressi g is a case that demands the boys prove they did not do it. It’ s a failure of logic.

    It’s akin to the demand that the president of the US prove he did not collde with the Russians.

    Dearly there were boys acting out that night. But Whether it was there boys is not supported by the evidence. What this article gets wrong is that this film s not the cause of their release or over turning the conviction.

    • Replies: @Alden
  552. Rich says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Except that two juries heard the case, listened to the evidence and found these monsters guilty. You are actually arguing in favor of vicious animals. You’re not worth my time.

  553. @Truth

    Yeah a death bed confession is so valuable, by the way did this man also attack the 8 other individuals? Pathetic, are you a Harvard Law School grad?

  554. Truth says:

    Reyes is still alive, Old Sport; he’s eligible for parole in 2022.

  555. “Except that two juries heard the case, listened to the evidence and found these monsters guilty. You are actually arguing in favor of vicious animals. You’re not worth my time.”

    If you live in the US it should come as no shock that juries get it wrong because the evidence as incorrectly assessed is used in subsequent trials.

    The problem here is that the city of NY rescinded the case. And they did so based on the facts of the case they themselves prosecuted. Anyone who has ever dealt with the state of government period has to know – said admissions are rare to unheard of.

    What the Netflix narrative place some context on the issues and as with the documentary plays an old trope regarding crime in general and the pervasiveness of these kinds of accusations as staple. And more and more whitea are increasingly caware the system has some serious defficiencies

  556. corrections:

    What the Netflix narrative does is place some context on the issues and as with the documentary plays an old trope regarding crime in general and the pervasiveness of these kinds of accusations as staple. And more and more whites are increasingly aware the system has some serious defficiencies

    Clearly there were boys acting out that night. But Whether it was these boys is not supported by the evidence. What this article gets wrong is that this film is not the cause of their release or over turning the conviction. Which is how both articles present themselves.

    —————————————————-

    “Except that two juries heard the case, listened to the evidence and found these monsters guilty. You are actually arguing in favor of vicious animals. You’re not worth my time.”

    When your arguments fail one can always make the matter personal. I am not arguing in favor of anything save due process and fair assessments. The confessions despite being fed the information still made no sense in light of the events. in other words, the confessions did not corroborate anything other than who was there and then as it turns out the boys themselves did know each other.

    That has nothing to do with me defending animals. It does have to do with understanding a a healthy conservative mistrust of government, that will in general seek the least path of resistance to accomplish its task — that means they are prone to take short cuts.

    The least path of resistance instead dealing with how the system is intended to work as to process, argument reasoning and logic — just stomp your feet and accuse someone of defending “animals.”

    • Replies: @Alden
  557. Alden says:
    @anonymous

    Or why White men are fools who are giving away their country and destroying their race.

  558. Alden says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    The only reasons the animals didn’t leave sperm her is that they were too young to ejaculate at the time and it was a 5 on 1 scrimmage scene So it was just beat smash rub and paw If you’ve ever seen those nature films of 4 hyenas on 1 antelope that’s what it was like.

    They should have never been born and raised in White taxpayers money. Excellent argument for abortion

  559. Alden says:
    @Truth

    It’s not just laziness. It’s just extremely extremely weird.

    Central Park was a common crime of assault & battery with great bodily injury rape and attempted murder or man slaughter depending on the state penal code.

    Tiananmen Square was a staged political event which involved rebels, law enforcement and army killing each other.

    2 events have nothing in common.

  560. Alden says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    “Acting out”. You’re black aren’t you?

  561. You are 100% right on one thing: not mentioning the race is code for black. I’ve seen this with the Washington Post for decades.

  562. Alden says:
    @obwandiyag

    It wasn’t late at night . The animals attacked her shortly after 9 She was found at 10.

    You must be black. Non criminal blacks try to get inside and hunker down at dusk and never go out after dark if possible because they are afraid of being robbed beaten murdered and raped by their fellow blacks.

    Sure sign of change from White to black neighborhood is the bars on windows and riot metal roll down doors covering the entire fronts of stores.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
  563. Alden says:
    @Truth

    Muslim theologians of all schools of thought have had several conferences about American black Muslims. They decided that NOI are not real Muslims.

    Black Muslim criminals may convert but they don’t reform. They are as recidivist as other criminals. They only reason they convert in prison is that black Muslims threaten them. It’s the best way for a black inmate to have a soft time in prison.

    Mr Fard had a small time criminal record in Los Angeles before he became a Muslim. He sold some alcohol during prohibition. When he founded black Muslims in Detroit, LAPD intelligence unit traced him back to Hawaii and Portuguese immigrant parents.

    Many claim he was a Jew up to no good. There’s a book claiming he was a Jew.

    Fard’s a common Persian and Arab name.

    Personal opinion is that he was American born in Hawaii came to California as many Hawaiians do, moved around worked different jobs.
    At some point, like Joseph Smith and many others, decided to found a new religion as an easy way to make a living He was dark enough to pass. Maybe a little Angolan or Goan like many Portuguese.

    • Replies: @Truth
  564. Alden says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    You seem to be a prim and proper person. Maybe even a clergy critter. You’ll be glad to know that legalization is a total mess.

    The state wants to impose a 40 percent sales tax.
    Cities and counties have imposed impossible to comply with regulations to keep the pot business out. Also there’s talk of some kind of special license to sell marijuana which of course will be difficult to get. Also some kind of FDA inspection of all pot sold. Most of the pot in the legal medical marijuana stores was unfounded not to comply with the standards in 1918. So it couldn’t be sold after 1/1/2019.

    For instance, there are 88 cities in Los Angeles County. Legal pot stores are legal in only 6 of those cities. It’s legal in the city of Los Angeles but here are some restrictive laws.

    First can only be in an existing retail store. Not in a new mini mall. Can’t put some partitions and a door in a warehouse or other building.

    Can’t be close to “where children gather” That’s not just schools churches temples parks . It includes informal skate board parks. An informal skateboard park is any piece of concrete that’s not sidewalk where it’s possible to skate board. It’s all those little patios and steps and entrances where kids skate board.

    I don’t know what’s going to happen with all these restrictions. Maybe it’ll be like illegally buying and reselling cigarettes from Indian reservation stores to avoid the cigarette tax.

    De jure legalization de facto moratorium

    With all that,

  565. They’re Heroes Now…and multimillionaires…

    The Central Park Five receive an emotional standing ovation and uproarious applause from Cardi B, John Legend and Tyler Perry as they take the stage at the 2019 BET Awards

    Kevin Richardson, Yusef Salaam, Antron McCray, Raymond Santana, and Korey Wise shared a message on the injustice they suffered and their mission of truth. Wise took to the mic first and shut his eyes closed, overcome with emotion. Luminaries like Cardi B, John Legend and Tyler Perry were seen applauding and welcoming the five to the stage for the presentation. The five were wrongly convicted of raping a female jogger in New York’s Central Park in 1989 and spent years behind bars before being exonerated in 2002. Their case has come back to light following the Netflix mini series When They See Us directed by Ava DuVernay.

    Daily Mail claims “No comments have so far been submitted.”
    So I typed (since links aren’t allowed): “Look up John Derbyshire on this topic.”

  566. Truth says:
    @Alden

    Shia, Ibhadi, and Sunni Muslims don’t accept each other as Muslims. A traditional Sunni Muslim would consider a NOI no more of a non-believer than a Shia.

  567. AceDeuce says:
    @Alden

    She was indeed attacked around 9 PM, but she wasn’t found until around 1 AM–four hours later.

  568. @Alden

    Wholeheartedly agree with your final point.

  569. @EliteCommInc.

    When people who daily rape, assault, murder, ob, and intimidate your own people, choose to kill their own offspring, the very people who would otherwise be harming your own children — you’re a morally confused pie-in-the-sky suicidal fool for wanting to stop them.

    You are trying to ensure that we — all decent nonAfricans in the USA, not just white Americans — face many millions more murderers, rapists, robbers, attackers. So many more that civil order and basic safety would no longer be possible to the degree they still mostly are possible now.

    Would the rest of us be better off — would we even be alive and not subjugated — if Africans were the largest single racial group in the USA as they would be without legal widely used abortion? If the answer is yes, what specific reasons do you have to confidently expect that population to suddenly become drastically different and no longer a constant threat to others?

    • Replies: @Truth
  570. Nebula says:

    What on earth did I just stumble upon? I’ve been trying to make up my own mind about this case, looking at it from both sides, so I found myself here—and Jesus I just found a hotspot of racist circle jerkers. One of y’all used the term kike in a comment. Yikes.

    Some responses are relatively well-rounded without being full of dog-whistles and offensive language, but most of these (and the article itself) sound like options people probably had on this case almost 3 decades ago. Grow a little, people. And try to keep racist slurs out of your arguments if you want people to listen to them. ✌️

  571. Truth says:
    @RadicalCenter

    So if you believe that 1,200 white people getting murdered daily is a necessary evil, why are you still sore at OJ and the Memphis dudes who killed Christian Channon?

    Couple of raindrops in the ocean.

  572. Hola says:

    Dear Mr. “high-IQ”,

    You forgot to mention in your diatribe that the DNA evidence proved none of the boys touched the woman. The man who admitted it had the correct DNA sequence. Not one of the boys’ DNA was found in the victim or near her. Not even in her fingernails. This is injustice and it happens everyday. Nowhere in your rant did you prove they committed the crime. There was no evidence against them which is why forcing them to admit to a crime they didn’t commit was so important to the case. I’m going to leave you to your delusions now. You live a world of perpetual white victim hood where only white people are wronged and ignoring the plight of others. Remove the racist scales from your eyes.

  573. Hola says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    There aren’t any black people on many college campuses yet rape still mysteriously seems to happen. Your wet dream about bllacks committing this or that crime is in your dumb brain, but continue in your fairytale. Lol

  574. Anonymous [AKA "Julien"] says:
    @Sam Coulton

    Hairs from the victim were found on the sneakers and jacket of the members of the 5. They also pointed out the location of the rape to police. Korey Wise knew about the fanny pack. The only other person who mentioned it was Reyes.

  575. “our rulers’ narrative does sometimes seem to be at well-nigh the level of Chinese suppression of the history of Tiananmen Square.”

    I must have missed your eye witness account of the events in Tiananmen Square. I would be very interested in reading about what you saw. You were there, weren’t you? If not, what in the hell are you trying to say? Are you really that cliché and superficial?

    I stopped reading at that sentence since you lost all credibility.

  576. WHAT DEVIATED SEPTUM ALLOWED ANY SPECIES TO BREATHE LONG ENOUGH TO BIRTH YOU? There is DNA evidence and Admission Exonerating them. I pray that your sentient being erase you and your future inhabitants from existence.

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