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This week, as it happens, there’s been an unusual quantity of good news out of Washington D.C.— not great, throw-your-hat-in-the-air news; but hopeful news, news about our government moving in the right direction—above all, on immigration.

Current U.S. immigration policy can fairly be described as antiwhite capitalist—an ugly blend of antiwhite ideology and the crudest kind of crush-the-workers capitalism.

Both our big political parties are on board with this. The Democrats increasingly the antiwhite party, see their future in bringing in more and more nonwhites to vote for them. The Republicans are completely controlled by cheap-labor business lobbies.

Antiwhite capitalism works for both parties; that’s why it has a stranglehold on our national life. It doesn’t work for non-elite white Americans. That’s why last November’s election gave us President Trump and not President Clinton.

Wednesday this week President Trump proposed legislation to reform our immigration laws, drafted by two Republican Senators: Arkansas’ Tom Cotton and Georgia’s David Perdue.

Some highlights:

  1. It ends chain migration. At present, if you are a citizen or legal permanent resident, you can sponsor your parents, your siblings, and your adult children for permanent residence. No longer: Under the proposed reform, it’ll be spouse and dependent children only.
  2. It ends the so-called “diversity lottery,” which gives permanent residence to 50,000 random people from anywhere, by lottery from the millions who apply–14½ million in 2015, the last year we have numbers for. Almost half of those were from Africa.
  3. It caps refugee numbers at 50,000 in any year.
  4. Applicants for permanent residence would be graded on a points system, with points decided by age, education credentials, English-language skills, professional awards, investment resources, and job offers.
  5. Guest workers would have to show job offers paying more than what is being paid to local Americans.

Those are highlights. You can read the entire bill at Senator Perdue’s congressional website. [PDF]It’s called the RAISE Bill: R-A-I-S-E, stands for “Reforming American Immigration for a Strong Economy.”

From my point of view, the proposed bill is a curate’s egg: good in parts.

Cutting back chain migration to just spouse and dependent children, for instance, is a very sensible reform. Likewise dumping the horrible, stupid “diversity lottery.” Diversity, above the minimal salt-in-the-stew level, creates nothing but trouble. We can’t taste the stew, we’ve dumped so much salt in it.

There are some nits to pick, though. The refugee cap is way too high, for instance. Fifty thousand a year? Here are government figures for the actual number of refugees admitted in fiscal years 2016, -15, -14, -13, and -12, in thousands: 85, 70, 70, 70, 58. So fifty thousand is a very modest reduction.

Refugee contractors whine about not meeting 110,000 “target” for FY17 , by Ann Corcoran, RefugeeResettlementWatch, June 22, 2017

Given that, as I have explained, refugees and ourselves are all better off if they’re parked in countries with similar cultures; and given also that, as documented in detail by Ann Coulter in ¡Adios America!, the refugee program is addled with fraud, the proper ceiling here: ZERO.

The guest-worker reform would quickly be gamed by smart immigration lawyers, just as they have gamed the present system, where employers are supposed to show they can’t find an American worker to hire. Employers go through the motions on that, but everyone knows it’s bogus.

Most problematic in the President’s proposal: the points-based system–giving permanent residence to the smartest, best-credentialed foreigners.

The long-term result of that, as has occasionally noted, is that the legacy nation might end up working for an overclass of smart Asians. That’s a recipe for racial resentment and civic disorder here in America. (I mean, of course, yet more racial resentment and yet more civic disorder).

It also strips poor countries of their most talented people. I couldn’t personally care less about that, but most Americans are more moralistically inclined than I am. People who claim to fret about world poverty should be asked why it’s good to enrich America by making poor countries poorer.

My ideal immigration policy is minimalist: a policy that serves Americans, and one that Americans can understand:

  • New permanent residents? Don’t need any. Exceptions: spouse and dependent children of current citizens. Guys who’ve helped us overseas. Solzhenitsyn.
  • Temporary guest workers? Don’t need any. Exceptions: that concert pianist, some world-class physicist teaching on exchange at a U.S. university. A few thousand similar cases.
  • Tourists and businessfolk on temporary visas with no right to work? Sure, carefully monitored on entry and exit, easily done with modern data management and i.d. systems.
  • Students? In very limited numbers.

All that said, I’ll thank the President and the two Senators for this bill. It’s pointed in the right direction, away from our present chaotic, corrupt, and nation-destroying system.

Best of all, it opens up the issue of immigration so that Establishment figures have to discuss it. Which they hate to do; and which, as CNN’s Jim Acosta showed in that clip with Stephen Miller, they do so excrutiatingly badly, it makes great TV and gets citizens talking, and helps dispel the clouds of ignorance. Senator Lindsey Graham, who, has already declared his outrage over the bill, is the very model and archetype of an Antiwhite Capitalist.

This proposed bill makes a mighty crack in the dam. There’s no going back to the regime of blanket ignorance and sentimentality on immigration.

This ignorance has been willed. People–including educated and influential people, non-sinister people who are not directly benefiting from the scams, would rather not hear about, not talk about immigration. It’s radioactive.

This is especially the case on the Respectable Right, whose inmates creep around in mortal terror that someone might call them racist.

Mind if I quote myself here? I’m writing on two years ago. Quote:

In the year or so prior to presidential elections in 2004, 2008, and 2012, GOP hopefuls would drop by at National Review to share their thoughts with us. The hopeful would meet with a dozen or so editors and contributors in the magazine’s library.

I think it was always the case that I was the only person in the room ever to ask a candidate about immigration policy. As I did so, the other staffers present would squirm and examine their fingernails. I recall thinking, time and again: “What’s the matter with you guys? It’s just a policy.” (The hopefuls were invariably clueless.)

The Overton Window has shifted some since then. Nowadays National Review staffers write immigration op-eds modeled on what was posting fifteen years ago e.g. Stephen Miller’s immigration facts trump Jim Acosta’s fantasy, By Rich Lowry, NY Post, August 3, 2017.

Ah, the melancholy of being right too soon! We’re like those “premature antifascists” of the 1930s, who opposed Hitler and Mussolini before it was respectable to. Prophets without honor.

The general level of ignorance is still deep, though, even among the licensed commentariat. Let me give you an example: columnist and Fox News talking head Charles Krauthammer.

Yeah, yeah; I can hear your eyes rolling already: cucky neocon Israel-first GOP establishment front man. Scanning back through my archived columns, my own very occasional references to Krauthammer have been in that general area, too.

Recently, though, I’ve been warming to the guy. In his appearances on Tucker Carlson’s show, he has said mostly sensible things.


Whether this is a cynical trimming of sails or honest enlightenment, I can’t say, not having paid close enough attention to Krauthammer the previous twenty years. It’s a change of direction, regardless, and I’m disposed to be charitable. We are promised that more joy shall be in Heaven over one sinner that repenteth, than over ninety and nine just persons who need no repentance.

Here was Dr. Krauthammer speaking on Fox Wednesday this week, about the President’s proposed reforms of immigration law.

The pushback is going to come from the Chamber of Commerce–who I think you could appease by having a guest-worker program as Reagan did …[Krauthammer: Trump Immigration Reforms ‘A No-Brainer’ – Current Immigration System ‘Does Not Make Sense’, by Ian Hanchett, Breitbart, Aug 2, 2017]

So here we have a guy, a seasoned and authoritative voice in the national commentariat, who thinks it would be great if our immigration system included a guest-worker program.

I’LL TRY TO KEEP CALM HERE!!!— though the frustration level is exceeding high.

Let me quote, in as level a voice as I can maintain, from a piece I wrote here on three years ago. The editors of the New York Post had given it as their solemn, considered opinion that “America is desperately in need of a guest-worker program.”[ NY City Council speaker’s immigration misstep, New York Post, October 4, 2014]

They didn’t print my Letter To The Editor. Always loth to let good copy go to waste, I reproduced it here, with some scathing remarks about the lazy ignorance of New York Post editorialists:

I assume that by “guest-worker program” you mean a category of U.S. visas allowing foreigners to work in the U.S.A. without permanent settlement rights.

Our country already has many such visa categories. Under the heading “Temporary (Nonimmigrant) Worker” the website of the U.S. Customs and Immigration Service lists 21 guest-worker visa categories: CW-1, E-1, E-2 (two types), E-3, H-1B, H-1C, H-2A, H-2B, H-3, I, L-1A, L-1B, O-1, P-1A, P-1B, P-2, P-3, Q, R-1, TN. These categories encompass all kinds of workers, from seasonal agricultural laborers to concert pianists.

Why does the Post think we are “desperately in need of a guest-worker program” when we already have 21 such programs?

Visa categories are subject to occasional changes, so the actual number of guest-worker programs now, three years after I wrote that, may not be exactly 21. Possibly it’s 20 or 23. By all means check for yourself on the USCIS website; I have no heart to do so.

Suffice it to say, with utter certainty, the number of our guest-worker programs is greater than zero.

The fact that the United States has a whole thick sheaf of guest-worker programs is not a secret. Two years ago Michelle Malkin and John Miano wrote a book, Sold Out, dissecting the whole rotten beast.

Yet Charles Krauthammer, a very intelligent man, never heard of those programs: not the E-3 visa nor the O-1, not the P-1A nor the H-1B, none of them. Like the New York Post editorialists, he thinks it is bright and spiffy–original, perhaps daring–to propose the U.S.A. having a guest-worker program … WHEN WE ALREADY HAVE A WHOLE BULGING FILE CABINET OF THE DARN THINGS AND HAVE HAD FOR DECADES. I came to the U.S.A. in 1985 on a guest-worker visa. HEL-LO?

Sentimentality? Dostoyevsky described one of his characters as “evil and sentimental.” I wouldn’t myself say that sentimentality is always evil, but that’s the way to bet.

It’s sure the way to bet when listening to immigration talk. You know what I’m referring to: huddled masses, wretched refuse, my grandpa landed with just a hundred dollars in his pocket. Famine ships, pogroms, Ellis Island … you know all the heartstring-pullers that get dragged out in service of antiwhite capitalism.

Quote from Dr. Johnson, in “The Vanity of Human Wishes,”

How Nations sink, by darling Schemes oppress’d,

When Vengeance listens to the Fool’s Request.

True enough, but it needs updating for our own time. Allow me:

How Nations sink, by Racketeers oppress’d,

When sentimental Tales the public Sphere infest.

All that sentimentality is in service of a poisonous nation-killing scam. Hence the pleasure–the ecstatic, joyful pleasure–of watching Stephen Miller make CNN propagandist Jim Acosta bend over and squeal like a pig

Immigration policy is just policy, like interstate highway management or farm price supports. It should be arranged to the advantage of the American people, coldly and realistically, not in compliance with myths and poems.

If you, my listeners, can get the Constitution changed and elect me President, I promise that on Day One I will order the dynamiting of Ellis Island.


>2010-12-24dl[1] John Derbyshire [email him] writes an incredible amount on all sorts of subjects for all kinds of outlets. (This no longer includes National Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him. ) He is the author of We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism and several other books. He has had two books published by com:FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT (also available in Kindle) and FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT II: ESSAYS 2013.

For years he’s been podcasting at Radio Derb, now available at for no charge.His writings are archived at

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  1. logprof says:

    Great podcast, as always.

    One quibble: Cumberland Gap is a National Historical Park, not a National Park. Yeah, it sounds absurd, but there is a hierarchy where NHPs are below NPs. I have never been to Cumberland Gap myself, but as a proud Virginian I am delighted you visited Shenandoah: that is God’s Country right there.

    I look forward to diving into your American Renaissance material!

  2. MEH 0910 says:

    A reporter’s personal journey to Cuba
    By Jim Acosta, CNN Senior White House Correspondent
    Updated 1:18 PM ET, Sun March 20, 2016


    Unbeknownst to most of my CNN colleagues, I was also on a personal mission. Days before arriving in Cuba I reached out to my Cuban-born aunt in Miami. Anabel had all the information I needed.

    So after filing several stories for CNN and countless live shots, I set out — It was my last morning in Havana. The assignment was almost over. There was little room for error.

    My Cuban guide, Ernesto, and I hopped into his beat up old Volkswagon and started driving. We were on our way to the town where my father grew up, the town he fled in 1962, three weeks before the Cuban Missile Crisis.

    My aunt Anabel remembers the story well. Back in 1962, she was already in Miami, having fled Cuba first. The articles on the deteriorating situation in Cuba in the newspapers, not to mention the word on the street among Cuban exiles, were all getting worse. So she hopped on a Pam-Am flight to Havana where she hustled my dad and grandmother out of Cuba.

    Only 11 years old, my father was issued a Cuban passport for a one-way trip to a country that would become his sanctuary. That was the last he had seen of Santa Maria del Rosario, a small village outside of Havana.

    Flash forward to 2009: There I was in the same village, staring at the old Spanish colonial, Catholic church where my father was baptized.

    My dad was worried when I told him about my upcoming assignment in Cuba.

    “They might put you in prison,” he said.

    It’s not that my dad was an anti-Castro ideologue shaking his fist at his former homeland. He was never that guy. AJ, as his friends call him, is proud of his heritage. But he is a forgiving man, softened by old age and retirement. Also, he grew up in Virginia, not Miami. It was just a different Cuban-American experience.

    But he had good reason to worry. He remembers the stories of other Cuban refugees who had escaped the island, some literally out of prison, to find sanctuary in the U.S. One former prisoner attended my grandmother’s funeral 10 years earlier.

    Critics ridicule the special exception Cuban refugees receive in the U.S. versus other immigrants from Latin America. But those same people forget Cuban refugees were fleeing what had been a fairly bloody revolution, essentially a civil war. Nuclear weapons were positioned in their country, presumably to obliterate portions of the U.S. Then-President John F. Kennedy positioned a naval blockade around the island, taking the world the closest it’s ever been to nuclear war.

    Plus, my dad didn’t leave behind a life of wealth or privilege, as some Cubans did. There was no sugar plantation to reclaim. Perhaps that refugee status is a relic of the Cold War, much like the U.S. policy of isolating Cuba. But there once was justification for that status.

    • Replies: @Wally
  3. I would permit temporary guest workers under these conditions:

    1. The employing company (EC) will hire the temporary guest worker (TGW) for five years.
    2. The EC pay $30,000 per year to make the hire, payable in advance.
    3. The EC’s payroll records be available to the US to identify the TGWs.
    4. Any American citizen can sue the EC to prove he was at least as qualified as the TGW to the job in question. These lawsuits can be brought in the American citizen’s federal district court, not necessarily the EC’s district.
    5. Should the American win his case he gets: five years pay plus three times the $150,000 the EC paid to make the hire.
    6. Should the EC appeal the jury verdict and lose the appeal, the judgment is doubled.
    7. No judge may grant judgment not withstanding the verdict in these cases.
    8. The TGW’s contract may not be renewed under any circumstance.
    9. The TGW may not marry an American citizen while under contract.
    10. Should the TGW fail to appear at his scheduled removal, which was established when hired, he commits a felony and gets 18 m0nths in prison, paid for by the EC. Then he is deported.
    11. ECs must publish annually a list of all TGWs hired, their salaries and detailed job descriptions used when the TGW was hired.

    Suppose a Silicon Valley Company hires an Indian programmer for $90,000 per year, what could happen if it lost its suit? It pays: $90,000 x 5 = $450,000 + $30,000 x 5 x 3 = $450,000 or $900,000. Under these circumstances ECs would only hire TGWs if no American could be found to do the job. I doubt 5,000 TGWs per year would be hired.

    Let the plaintiffs’ bar enforce immigration law.

    I await say Microsoft to endorse this program.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @Beckow
  4. A shame that immigration did not stay at the 1820 level. All immigration after 1800 has been bad for America.

    Guys who’ve helped us overseas.

    Otherwise known as Quislings and traitors. If they would betray their own people why would we want them to live in our nation?

    • Replies: @Rich
    , @Thomm
  5. TWS says:

    We should use foreign students to subsidize citizens. Charge them up the wanger and help the trade balance too. I don’t mind tourists but we should have a moratorium on immigration until we hit the 200 million mark. Then replacement levels only by people who can speak English.

    • Replies: @Barnard
  6. funny that. many have offered advice to donald trump. the advice? keep stephen miller off tv. miller dissed the huddled masses – trumps base. miller wants the bright folk. the people who didn’t vote for trump.
    miller seems like a friendless, lonely, angry young man.
    and a hater.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  7. @Lawrence Fitton

    funny that. many have offered advice to donald trump. the advice? keep stephen miller off tv. miller dissed the huddled masses – trumps base. miller wants the bright folk. the people who didn’t vote for trump.
    miller seems like a friendless, lonely, angry young man.
    and a hater.

    First of all, whaaaaaat??

    Secondly, there’s nothing wrong with a hater, so long as he hates the right people. Steve Miller probably wouldn’t hate me, as I’m with him 99% (I think he should have cut the moron CNN guy off with a wave… next!)

    Third, we have capital letters in the US, like THIS. If you don’t know how to use them, GTFO!

    Lastly, what do you know about Steve Miller, anyway, Larry? He’s probably seen a lot more than you of America – while you’ve been making comments from the hall closet, he’s been from Phoenix, Arizona all the way to Tacoma, Philadelphia, Atlanta, LA, … not to mention northern California.

  8. Great article overall. I am glad to get an elucidation of the details of the proposed bill and agree completely with your 4 points of additional restriction (or what should have been in there). One thing to think about, whether Trump does or not (probably not) is that whatever is in there must be something that is not written in wet sand, as Miss Ann Coulter explained in her most recent great column, so the language must be something that bureaucrats and judges will have a hard time weaseling out of.

    About Mr. Krauthammer, no, Mr. Derbyshire, you cannot trust the neo-cons – that’s all there is to it. He’s not stupid on the guest worker question; he’s just being a worthless shill for the establishment.

    Now, what is with this term you are introducing, the Antiwhite Capitalists? I don’t like that term at all. The “Capitalist” part is the problem. See, the alt-right and the supposed “real” conservatives, still can’t get a major damn point: Big government is THE MAJOR part of our problem – DO YOU PEOPLE NOT GET THAT? These people you are writing about, Mr. Derbyshire, are NOT capitalists, and if the alt-right cannot understand anything about free markets, real capitalism vs. the crony capitalism/fascism we have going on now, they will never understand their real enemy.

    Right now, big government is controlled by big business. Had the American people had backbone enough to defend the US Constitution through the last century, especially Amendment X (limitations of the Fed Gov.), these large organizations would not be able to run the country through the Feral Government. You can’t control/brainwash our kids via education if there IS NO DEPT. OF EDUCATION – it is not constitutional per Amendment X – it is quite clear on this! There’s no way all the BLT/G crap and the homo crap and all of it would be supported by truly local schools. Education is just one example of many.

    You let the Feral Government and big corporations run the show, and then you wonder why you have no say in immigration policy – the existential problem we have at this point, and no say in a lot of other things. They don’t have to listen to us at this point.

    The people you are writing about are not capitalists – they don’t complete in a free market, and they make all the rules via government. I wish you would call them the AntiWhite OLigarchs, yeah AWOL; it’s got a better ring to it. See, these people are AWOL from America – they have deserted the people. That’s the meme. No charge, BTW.

  9. Rich says:
    @Chris Mallory

    In the case of Solzhenitsyn, he was helping his own people by refusing to kneel before the evil that had taken over his country.

    • Replies: @David
  10. KenH says:

    Acosta’s just a propagandist and televangelist for militant multiracialism. He’s a dime a dozen on the mainstream networks which is why they are being roundly rejected by large numbers of white Americans.

    The RAISE Act just gives us merit based third world immigration. The invaders will just be vetted for job skills. Yahoo! The reduced numbers still amount to race replacement of the shrinking white majority albeit on a slightly reduced scale.

    Yes, it’s better than what we have but the framers of this legislation have accepted the claim that America is a creedal nation and economic entity rather than a biological one.

  11. @Achmed E. Newman

    just who are the ‘right’ people top hate?

  12. Anonym says:

    I like how we are increasingly taking charge of our own language by discarding the useless “racism” family of words created by the enemy, and just using “anti-white”. Nice work Derb. I see “self-hating”and “self loathing” used a lot too to describe white liberals. It fills my heart with joy. We are becoming a people again.

  13. David says:

    Solzhenitsyn lived in Vermont while he was a political exile. Just before returning to Russia, he made some remarks about how ignorant and dissipated Vermonters were, really ticking off a lot of them since they had felt his choosing Vermont was an indication of its virtue. I can’t find the remarks but I remember the reaction clearly. It made me like him.

  14. David says:

    Somewhat off topic but encouraging. ran an article about a West African immigrant who under Trump’s travel ban is unable to bring his seven member adopted family from the Republic of Congo to Pennsylvania. The poor young man clearly brings the skills needed to succeed, not: “As he grew, he dropped out of school to support the family. Ndizeye earned money pushing a wheelbarrow, toting packages from the local markets to people’s homes. Later he got a job selling cellphone minutes.”

    So the travel ban is actually working, at least somewhere.

    The link is worth clicking just for the picture.

  15. If Acosta’s so nostalgic for the America of 1901, shouldn’t we bring back Jim Crow and minstrel shows?

  16. @Achmed E. Newman

    Third, we have capital letters in the US, like THIS. If you don’t know how to use them, GTFO!


  17. Jeff77450 says:

    When Charles Krauthammer said that the U.S. needs a guest-worker program is it possible that he meant that in a generic sense? In other words, he didn’t mean an *additional* guest-worker program, just that immigration policy should allow for a certain number of guest-workers.

  18. Thomm says:

    Most of what Derb says is decent. But two flaws :

    1) The chart he uses is dishonest, as it does not indicate the number in proportion to the current population, just the absolute number. This creates a rising chart designed to whip up emotions in innumerate WN cretins. An honest chart would be the one that is in proportion to the current population.

    2) I do have to point out that Derb is an economic leftist. He thinks that Chinese investors should be barred from buying US real estate. Now, a ‘conservative’ who opposes a buyer of an asset at the market price because of the race of the buyer, is not a conservative, but a Nationalist-Leftist.

    Not to mention that US real estate might not have recovered from the bust without this infusion of money.

  19. @David

    Lol thats a great picture. Wonder who coached him?

    It sucks if whats said is true, but oh well. Tough times call for tougher measures. Now if only christian groups would stop pushing for more human waste to be brought here, we might start making headway with this immigration problem.

  20. Thomm says:
    @Chris Mallory

    All immigration after 1800 has been bad for America.

    A bizarre comment given that the US had a lot fewer than 50 states at that time.

    I am certain that all 128 of your GGGGG-GPs were not in the US of the time in 1800.

    Anyway, thanks for proving that White Nationalist-Leftists are hostile to Germans, Irish, Italians, Poles, and of course, Jews.

  21. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    We are promised that more joy shall be in Heaven over one sinner that repenteth, than over ninety and nine just persons who need no repentance.

    “We,” like in, you included??!! I don’t know whether to laugh or cry at the absurdity of that belief.

    You pagan polytheist vile thing, the likes of you have been promised Hell, by the One and only.

    Here is a link for you, with translations of verses which have not been corrupted by man… and, a description of your fate.

  22. Wally says:

    “Temporary guest workers? Don’t need any. Exceptions: that concert pianist, some world-class physicist teaching on exchange at a U.S. university. A few thousand similar cases.”

    So who gets to decide which of those “concert pianists” or “world-class physicists” are accepted?

    I think we all know.

  23. Wally says:
    @MEH 0910

    Yet Acosta supports strict Israeli immigration laws which specify JEWS ONLY, while he demands massive 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anon
  24. @Anonym

    CoalSLAW coalition – between blacks and Self-Loathing Anti-Whites.

  25. @George Weinbaum

    Why not take a less heavy handed approach at least initially? That is you would introduce measures, some of them like yours, least expensive ones first, umtil a material improvement was achieved

  26. Comparable books on how western cultures are committing, or already have committed, suicide are:

    Thilo Sarrazin, ‘Deutschland schafft sich ab, Wie wir unser Land aufs Spiel setzen’, München 2010

    Eric Zemmour, ‘Le Suicide Francais’, 2014 Paris

    Paul Scheffer, ‘Die Eingewanderten, Toleranz in einer grensenlosen Welt, München 2008 (Het land van aankomst, 2007)

    Alas nowadays ideas exist like:
    – nobody can claim ownership to any land or country
    – anyone should have the right so settle anywhere
    – western prosperity is based on robbing poor countries
    – the west has the obligation to create a better world

    The idea that not so long ago, the 19th century, most people in the west were poor as churchmice, but improved their living themselves, hardly exists.

  27. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    And you know this about Acosta how? You have him on record somewhere?

    • Replies: @Wally
  28. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    No, we don’t all know. Be specific.

    • Replies: @Wally
  29. @Thomm

    Your # 2:

    How would you advise Australia on immigration policy? China sends 40M homebuyers to Australia (pop. 29M), and that’s end of Australia as a part of the British commonwealth. Think it can’t happen? The Chinese despise the British as treacherous fops; they haven’t forgotten the Opium Wars even if everybody else has. They see themselves as the natural Pacific hegemon and guardian of the diverse Asian peoples.

    The US is a hegemon in its own right, so it admittedly won’t happen here. Well, not quite in the same way, once California secedes and shortsightedly decides to lay out the red carpet. There’s still a lot of empty land in California.

    How do you think a free market/minarchist polity would preserve its national character? The answer won’t be importing millions of Han supremacists and other restive ethnics who can use the host polity’s own liberal creed against it. China Inc. is still ruled by Chairman Mao’s Communist Party–there is no other national party. You also overlook the huge footprint of both the Chinese and US central banks in Chinese wealth.

    One of the greater conceits is the assumption that things will always continue as before. On November 9, 2016, millions of Americans woke up to a reality they had never contemplated and continue to deny. China is one of three countries that matter on the globe. They are ambitious and deeply nationalistic.

    • Agree: Clyde
  30. Acosta…another slimy Cuban who does not belong in our America!!!

    You can thank the filthy cockroach JFK for importing the Acosta Family into South Florida.

    Miami is Cuban…Foreign…Spanish speaking….And this is a direct consequence of the Cold War…We should have been friends with the Soviet Commies……

    JFK instigated the Cuban missile Crisis….Cuban Foreign Miami was a direct consequence……

    Time to rethink the Cold War…

  31. What is the culture you bear if you are, like nearly all your relatives, of lower than average IQ, correspondingly little educated in the history, law and literature that educated people might say defined your culture and identity?

    If you were Muslim in a poor Muslim country you cou877ld go to a madrassa and learn to recite the Koran and probably ensure that you have, unless very smart by nature (which we are assuming you are not), neither the culture to integrate into a Western community nor to modernise your own.

    In the US the equivalent people would not be able to utter 20 lucid words about the Constitution or the structure of federal, state or local government, the New Deal, the Cold War, how the Korean War ended, the Great Society, unfunded liabilities of government, Quantitative Easing, the Green Card lottery, when slavery ended, how many Americans are black, how judges are appointed….etc and 1000 important cetera.

    So what is this culture that we suppose could go on defining the world of the American white lower middle and (once) working class? Before answering consider how many generations have successively deplored decadence and criticised the younger generations.

    Once it would have been possible to look for some stability – and a mass of hypocrisy snd himbug – in religion and the local communities of many churches would have neen admirable in the social support they gave against many forms of hardship. But personal mobility, low and late fertility and declining adherence to religion has surely changed all that.

    I note Derb’s (to me) surprising warning against letting in the smart to form or join an (economuc?) elite which will, because of its ethnic difference make racial problems even worse than they are. My hope for my country is that its smart Indians and Chinese will simply make up for the underbreeding by smart whites. (though probanly only in the first generation) and make our problems more class than race. As we aren’t about to make rationally desirable (but almost unsayable) adjustments to our democracy our welfare state and high minimum wages are going to eventually impose brakes on productivity and a combination of inflation and high taxes which will make living as Australian taxpayers sufficiently unattractive to the rich and successful and talented that they cease to be Australians. Singapore beckons as a hub for someone with Australian family still to visit…..

    In case anyone has read this far and hasn’t noticed, I am, inter alia, casting doubt on the idea of great civilisations dying lamentably before our eyes. Apart from it being clearly not Central Asian, Middle Eastern or Chinese, what the hell is this European civilisation as of 2017 that we think could be distinctly recognisable as such in 60 years time? What will America be but a predictably more decrepit version of its existing rackety empire within a country?

  32. Barnard says:

    That is what is happening already, the foreign students are not eligible for financial aid and are required to pay the full cost of attendance out of pocket. That is why the colleges are so eager to get foreign students, they help cover the cost for the other students who are getting reduced tuition from the school. As Derb talks about, this has become increasingly common with Chinese students who cannot get into the best colleges in China. It would be better if the schools cut their costs and reduced the cost of attendance for all American students rather than play all these games with the costs.

  33. @The Anti-Gnostic

    Such wild stuff about Australia may be OK in an argument with insular ignorant Americans but it starts you ofc behind scratch with others. You overstate Australia’s population by 20 per cent. You write as if Australia’s membership of the British Commonwealth was important (in fact Chinese Australians would in fact want to maintain it for all sorts of practical reasons). There are almost as many Indian immigrants as Chinese. The Chinese would simply not be admitted in the numbers you fancifully imagine and even if the criteria limiting their immigration were changed there is no readon to suppose that the restrictions on their buying existing Australian houses would be discontinued. They can only buy new dwellings (though I expect a few of the very rich have lawyers finding their way round that). The Chinese we get in Australia don’t come to change something they despise. They send their children to the best schools and buy them apartments with no expectation that they will normally go back to China.

  34. @Wizard of Oz

    Your comment confirms the Australian government already sees where things would head without such restrictions.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  35. Clyde says:

    This is superior account of illegal alien Guatemalan Mayans working in an Ohio chicken processing plant.

    A Reporter at Large
    May 8, 2017 Issue
    Exploitation and Abuse at the Chicken Plant
    Case Farms built its business by recruiting immigrant workers from Guatemala, who endure conditions few Americans would put up with.
    By Michael Grabell



    Though Case Farms isn’t a household name, you’ve probably eaten its chicken. Each year, it produces nearly a billion pounds for customers such as Kentucky Fried Chicken, Popeyes, and Taco Bell. Boar’s Head sells its chicken as deli meat in supermarkets. Since 2011, the U.S. government has purchased nearly seventeen million dollars’ worth of Case Farms chicken, mostly for the federal school-lunch program.

    Case Farms plants are among the most dangerous workplaces in America. In 2015 alone, federal workplace-safety inspectors fined the company nearly two million dollars, and in the past seven years it has been cited for two hundred and forty violations. That’s more than any other company in the poultry industry except Tyson Foods, which has more than thirty times as many employees.

    While the President stirs up fears about Latino immigrants and refugees, he ignores the role that companies, particularly in the poultry and meatpacking industry, have played in bringing those immigrants to the Midwest and the Southeast. The newcomers’ arrival in small, mostly white cities experiencing industrial decline in turn helped foment the economic and ethnic anxieties that brought Trump to office. Osiel ended up in Ohio by following a generation of indigenous Guatemalans, who have been the backbone of Case Farms’ workforce since 1989, when a manager drove a van down to the orange groves and tomato fields around Indiantown, Florida, and came back with the company’s first load of Mayan refugees.

    Poultry processing begins in the chicken houses of contracted farmers. At night, when the chickens are sleeping, crews of chicken catchers round them up, grabbing four in each hand and caging them as the birds peck and scratch and defecate. Workers told me that they are paid around $2.25 for every thousand chickens. Two crews of nine catchers can bring in about seventy-five thousand chickens a night.

    One spring night in 1989, a Case Farms human-resources manager named Norman Beecher got behind the wheel of a large passenger van and headed south. He had got a tip about a Catholic church in Florida that was helping refugees from the Guatemalan civil war. Thousands of Mayans had been living in Indiantown after fleeing a campaign of violence carried out by the Guatemalan military. More than two hundred thousand people, most of them Mayan, were killed or forcibly disappeared in the conflict. A report commissioned by the United Nations described instances of soldiers beating children “against walls or throwing them alive into pits,” and covering people “in petrol and burning them alive.” In 1981, in a village of Aguacatán, where many Case Farms workers come from, soldiers rounded up and shot twenty-two men. They then split their skulls and ate their brains, dumping the bodies into a ravine.

    Through the years, the United States had supported Guatemala’s dictators with money, weapons, intelligence, and training. Amid the worst of the violence, President Reagan, after meeting with General Efraín Ríos Montt, told the press that he believed the regime had “been getting a bum rap.” The Administration viewed the Guatemalan refugees as economic migrants and Communist sympathizers—threats to national security. Only a handful received asylum. The Mayans who made it to Florida had limited options.
    “Today, I’ll be cherry-picking from Deuteronomy.”

    Beecher arrived at the church in time for Sunday Mass, and set himself up in its office. He had no trouble recruiting parishioners to return with him to the Case Farms plant in Morganton, in the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountains. Those first Guatemalans worked so hard, Beecher told the labor historian Leon Fink in his book, “The Maya of Morganton,” that supervisors kept asking for more, prompting a return trip. Soon vans were running regularly between Indiantown and Morganton, bringing in new recruits. “I didn’t want [Mexicans],” Beecher, who died in 2014, told Fink. “Mexicans will go back home at Christmastime. You’re going to lose them for six weeks. And in the poultry business you can’t afford that. You just can’t do it. But Guatemalans can’t go back home. They’re here as political refugees. If they go back home, they get shot.” Shelton approved hiring the immigrants, Beecher said, and when the plant was fully staffed and production had doubled “he was tickled to death.”

  36. JamesG says:

    As for the Ellis Island sentimentality, my late sister and her husband spent a day visiting the island.

    I didn’t have the heart to tell her that when in opened in 1892 all our immigrant-ancestors were already here.

    • Replies: @Clark Westwood
  37. Clyde says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    You are asleep. You do not mind an Asian dominated Australia? Your children-grandchildren will.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  38. Clyde says:

    This useless refugee guy from the Congo, not our problem. Belgium had colonies there, not us. He should be scamming his way into Belgium where he can sweep the floors at EU buildings at night. Congo guy is just another indicator how screwed up America is. Who is profiting here? In this case it is the HIAS doing the importing and wrecking of America for fun and high salaries.

  39. Things will be clearer if immigration is called colonization.

    That’s what immigrants do. They colonize.

    • Replies: @Wally
  40. @JamesG

    How many descendants of slaves go to Ellis Island? Any (aside from school groups)?

    But if we’re “a nation of immigrants” (according to Acosta et al.), wouldn’t that mean that slaves were immigrants too?

  41. @The Anti-Gnostic

    I hope that is correct but it is amazing what tbinking processes can fill the minds of even high IQ well educated politicians. I would attribute their caution on this to the voters whom they have to attend to, offsetting the encoursgement from the parties’ tressurers and fundraisers to be nice to rich Chinese. (One Chinese billionaire was very publicly made to sell a multimillion dollar mansion in a fashionable part of Sydney because he broke the rules!

  42. @Clyde

    You think 15 per cent Indians would get together with 15 per cent Chinese to do what exactly. And there’s lots of intermarriage. I already have three East Asian in laws. Also Jewish…. We are well covered.

    • Replies: @peterike
    , @attilathehen
    , @Clyde
  43. @David

    He’s a real benefit to this country. LOL!

    He must go back.

  44. peterike says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    You think 15 per cent Indians would get together with 15 per cent Chinese to do what exactly.

    Utterly and forever change the culture of Australia? To be more like… China and India. Maybe you like massive corruption, shoddy workmanship, extreme ethnic networking, ruthless worker abuses, pollution, blithe unconcern for the environment, and having your racial heritage be biologically wiped out. But some people aren’t so keen on these things.

    • Replies: @Thomm
    , @Wizard of Oz
  45. Agree with this author. The Trump bill is a step in the right direction but not enough. We need to also end birthright citizenship and require at least one parent to be citizen before baby can be citizen, like all other developed countries.

    What this country really needs is a 20 year moratorium on immigration. Breitbart reported that we let in 2 to 3 million people per year between the 1 million green cards and work visas. This needs to end. All work visas need to end. We also need to end the fraud ridden investor visa EB5. The current level of $500,000 is extremely low, on par with Portugal, a level set in 1990. Australia and the U.K. Charge far higher, at $5m. We need to cancel it altogether as it is the #1 get out of jail on the cheap card for corrupt Chinese government officials and businessmen. Trump won’t touch this because of his son-in-law. as the NYTimes reported Jared Kushner’s sister went to Beijing and tried to peddle this visa and green cards to Chinese investors to help build yet another Kushner family property. Kushner is the cancer that will bring Trump down.

    We also need to end the stupid OPT or Optional Practical Training program which gives employers tax incentives to hire foreign graduates of any major for up to three years, giving them the crucial entry level experience that our college grads badly need.

    We should also end the ability of foreigners to launder their dirty money through our real estate. F ing Chinese are buying up all our real estate like there’s no tomorrow, causing over development from NY to LA, Seattle to Miami and everywhere in betweeen, with cash, all are corrupt and using dirty money. Ban foreigners from buying US properties, now!

    Chinese, Indians and Mexicans are colonizing the US at a scary pace while congress is squabbling away. The United States of MexChindia under sharia law run by Jews will be the biggest failed state in history, with nukes.

  46. Rurik says:


    oh geeze

    just the kind of thing white nationalists get their panties in a twist over

    the funny thing about stories like this is the way the feminists treat them

    when news came out in Australia that Muslims were running rape gangs, that targeted only white girls for violent and vicious gang rapes, coordinated with cell phones and such…

    at first the feminists were howling about ‘men’ raping and gang raping girls!!!!

    until it came out all the rapes were being done by Muslim immigrants, and then just like that ~ poof

    all their outrage disappeared. There was nothing but crickets

    the ((authorities)) put it all down to a ‘cultural misunderstanding’

    so when people rail and froth against ‘white nationalists!’, they’re simply part and parcel of throngs and hoards of feminists and ((Marxists)) and assorted orcs (like the ones in the article)- who like very much that the Western white man has been spiritually castrated by generations of Hollywood programming and anti-white hatred.

    But not all white men. And so the ones with their nads intact, are going to be subject to a lot of hissing and squealing and spitting and clenched-fist waving at any white man (or women) anywhere who has a problem with this kind of thing.

    They really do hate you (and your daughters) that much

  47. Call it Colonization Bill.

    That’s what mass immigration is. Colonization and Replacism. It is invasivism. Just like too many whites replaced Indians, too many Third Worlders will replace whites. There is no cosmic right or wrong in this. It’s just a fact. Too many colonizers mean loss of territory.

    Putting aside right and wrong, Israel became Jewish state because of Zionist colonization.

    Why should whites welcome non-white colonization? It will change the nation.

    As for illegals, they should be feral migrants.

    And if left unchecked, they will expand like feral pigs.

  48. @Anonym

    We never were a people. Maybe under Christendom. Like any other group, we were a collection of tribes writ large into nations.

    • Replies: @Anonym
  49. Thomm says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    You are right, of course. Most Australian real-estate will eventually be owned by Asians, on sheer numbers alone. This is a boon for the Australian construction industry as they can just keep building more structures.

    The best bet for Australia is if Indians buy up about 20%, hence keeping the Chinese below 49%. But there is no chance of keeping out Asian money altogether. Most of the Australian public likes their homes going up.

    Overtime, the Australian ethnicity will be of a Eurasian admixture. Anglo-Chinese with some Indian elements.

  50. Beckow says:
    @George Weinbaum

    I would add that any person in the company that hires the TGW (temp external worker) and thus certifies that there were no Americans available, would be liable for that certification if it turns out that it was a lie with significant penalties and fines. That would cover hiring managers, their higher-ups who approve the hire, and HR.

    Even today for H1Bs, the paperwork has to be done by the hiring manager and HR and they ‘certify’ that they followed the process. (This of course doesn’t happen in outsourced companies like Wipro, Tata at all). This is so obviously fraudulent and the people doing it know it, that a specific liability would discourage it. They might have to create a ‘patsy’ manager who does the dirty work and is let go when necessary (I have seen that), but if properly administered, it could work. You have to go up the chain of command – these things always have to be approved by higher-ups – it is their well paid job to do the due diligence. It would also allow a large percentage of the hiring managers who are uncomfortable with hiring H1Bs to use this as an argument to look at alternatives: mostly US college graduates or US relocations. Somebody always signs off on this and in effect lies, make them bear the consequences.

    By the way, this would be entirely possible even today. If Sessions wants to randomly take a few cases and make an example of them, there are penalties for falsified H1B certifications already in the law. It is simply not enforced. Even a few well publicised cases would dramatically change the hiring environment. (But Sessions seems like a nice, Southern gentleman….where is Giuliani when one could use him?)

  51. I’ll go better than that. Elect me POTUS and I’ll nuke NYC, with Ellis being ground zero. I’ll throw in Boston, Detroit, DC, LA, San Diego, San Fran, SeaTac/Olympia, Portlandia, Honolulu, Chicago and Minn/St. Paul. Others considered later after I’m elected.

    Only Libtards will pay taxes too.

  52. Thomm says:

    Peterike is known for thinking that 1925 was so much better than 2017. Nevermind that even the West was poor at that time.

    He is the typical white nationalist with a negro IQ. He has nothing in common with successful whites, so has no business pretending to have their talents.

  53. @Thomm

    Derbyshire has a Chinese wife and offspring. He is a philosemite. Anything he says needs to be carefully considered.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  54. @The Anti-Gnostic

    China is not going to take over the world or be an important power. Fortunately, they have performed over 400 million abortions in the past 35 years and are rapidly aging. China has peaked and will withdraw. It is vital for Australia to reintroduce it’s white only policy.

    In the 1980s, the Japanese were going to take over the world. The world did not turn Japanese. It will not Chinasize either.

  55. @Wizard of Oz

    (((Wizard of Oz)))??? your evolutionary degeneracy is showing. Whites will not allow themselves to become Eurasians.

    Jews, blacks, Asians are not part of the West. Your Asian/Jewish offspring will have nothing to do with Westerners.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  56. Thomm says:

    (((Wizard of Oz)))??? your evolutionary degeneracy is showing.

    Funny you should say this, given that White Trashionalists* represent the waste matter that the white race is trying to expel from its gene pool. White women are doing their part to make sure WNs are cut off from reproduction and fulfill their purpose as wastebaskets.

    White variance in talents/looks/character is extremely high, which is why a WN has no more in common with a successful white than a chihuahua has with a Siberian Husky.

    *Remember, WNs are the real trash, not some poor, honest, rural whites who are not WNs. WNs are responsible for getting these poor yeomans labeled as ‘trash’, when WNs are the real trash.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @attilathehen
  57. Clyde says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Your children are going to marry whomever I suppose. You have lost the plot and so has Australia, with its self hating immigration policies to flood your natural resources laden and lovely island with Chinamen, Babus and other Asians. The world has in excess of 1.5 billion Indians, same numbers for Chinese, while too much of the white race is on a self destruct mission to lower the number of whites worldwide.

    The Chinese leaders in Beijing are laughing at you. The Han know what the score is when it comes to regional domination while whites live in various fantasy lands. World domination too but this is further off.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  58. Rurik says:

    white race is trying to expel from its gene pool.

    starting with dot heads

    why is it dot heads are always so whiney about their skin color?

    I guess it all goes to their culture, where everything about them is always based on the hue of their skin. They’re always running around trying to lighten their skin tone and fake that they’re from a higher caste. Being as the gals all prefer whiter (superior) looking fellas.

    poor Indians. They make tons of cash writing code, but can’t get a date. The pretty white girls are always dating the building manager or even the rugged, sweaty janitor over the emotionally needy dot heads, mewling for their charms, ‘and wanting and wanting…’

    start at 1:30

    the script writer for this movie sure knew a lot of Indians to create that scene with the granny

    • Replies: @Thomm
  59. Thomm says:


    I thought you said I was Chinese. And last week, that I am a Jew.

    You WNs truly have negro IQs.

    Heh heh heh heh

    • Replies: @Rurik
  60. Wally says:

    You’re mumbling gain.


  61. Wally says:

    Yes, hasbarist, he is on record.

    Owning you forever.

  62. Wally says:
    @Priss Factor

    And seek free everything, lower the national IQ, increase crime rates.

    • Replies: @Anon
  63. Rurik says:

    You WNs truly have negro IQs.

    Heh heh heh heh

    you know I almost pity you

    the white girls you covet so earnestly even prefer the bros over you lot

    must sting

    • Replies: @Thomm
  64. Gadfly was a prophet

    Europeans should have heeded his warnings.

  65. Thomm says:

    Yawn… I am not Indian, *and* WNs are the ones who can’t get white women.

    Your projection is evidence of low IQ and low EQ. To be low in both is to be a WN; a wastebasket of genetic matter, as explained before.

    Refer to this comment for answers to all future questions you have, as I am blocking you due to your low quality (you don’t even know that sentences start with capital letters).

    Heh heh heh heh

    • Replies: @Rurik
  66. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Your word doesn’t count as evidence, dummy.

  67. Changing the constitution is too hard, and not at all nationalist. How about we just say you were born in Hawaii?

  68. @Clyde

    What do you make of the fact that unlike high fertility India but like Europe, Japan and Korea China has a less than replacement birthrate? Have you not even considered the implications, assuming you were aware of the fact?

    One implication is that China’s only interest in Australia is as a well run quarry and farm and it is not going to let anyone interfere with the satisfactory way existing Australians run Australia. (Maybe more reliable than the US for Australia).

    There is no more secure country in the world than Australia because none of Japan, Indonesia, China or India would lightly acquiesce in any other country dominating Australia.

    You don’t seem to have got the point. No one is flooding Australia with the kind of people that Australians similar to you might have to live next to and compete with. Even those that start poor are likely to be your lawyer, doctor or accountant – and member of one’s sporting clubs, including the gorgeous girls – within a few years.

    There really is a difference between Indian or Chinese professors you might meet at Oxbridge high tables or in London’s Athenaeum Club – and in many places in Australia – and your “Babus”.

    • Replies: @Anonym
    , @Clyde
  69. @Thomm

    Thomm what are your stats? Caucasian, Christian (RCC)? Or ((()))?

  70. @peterike

    See my reply to Clyde’s #58

  71. Anonym says:

    We were a people during the various Muslim invasions, effectively and for the most part. Also during the counterattack of the Crusades.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  72. @Anonym

    Would you choose the culture and citizenship (or other status in a pre-modern society) of any medieval or earlier European polity or country over the right to live as a citizen in Beijing or Delhi today?

    • Replies: @Anonym
    , @Thomm
  73. Rurik says:

    I am blocking you due to your low quality (you don’t even know that sentences start with capital letters).

    Heh heh heh heh

    poor Thommy

  74. Anonym says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I don’t think you have much experience of dealing with Chinese or if you haven’t, much perceptiveness. When they’ve got you by the balls, they don’t hesitate to twist. When they see a system with a loophole, they shamelessly exploit it. I.e. democracy, immigration law, investment.

    How they are acting now with the so-called 9 dash line, the island bases, Tibet, controlling movie studios and dissenters like Richard Gere will be a harbinger of their increasing influence.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  75. Anonym says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Would you choose the culture and citizenship (or other status in a pre-modern society) of any medieval or earlier European polity or country over the right to live as a citizen in Beijing or Delhi today?

    Probably. What is your point?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  76. Thomm says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    My friend, you will find that these WN idiots are so wedded to their ideology, that they will indeed say that living in Ukraine circa 1932 (when cannibalism was common due to the Holodomor) is indeed better than living in, say, 2017 Taipei.

    Also central to their beliefs is the insistence that white people have never committed horrors against other white people.

    Yes, they are that stupid.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  77. @Anonym

    Well you said “we are becoming a people again” and now I am fascinated that you seem to think that the “poor, nasty, brutish and short” (omitting only Hobbes’s “solitary”) lives of the witchburning punishers of ordinary criminals with hanging drawing and quartering – to touch on only what they did to their near neighbours – would be preferable to struggling with reading the Chinese signs in Peking when your cheap Peking Duck dish had given you the trots and you needed a loo.

  78. @Anonym

    I know what you are talking about but I think it has almost nothing to do with whether Australia will continue, on balance, to go on benefiting enormously from China, as it has for more than 20 years. Nor do I think it has much to do with how the Chinese will behave as merely one (and gradually intermarrying) relatively rich minority in Australia. True there was a bit of a scandal recently when the Iranian-Australian general secretary of the New South Wales Labor Party organised a winnable parliamentary seat for a Chinese-Australian donor who was on record supporting China’s South China Sea position and he was thought to be too close to the CCP. Big deal? No. No more than that Falun Gong and other Chinese dissidents organise protests at the Chinese Embassy.
    And I guess most Chinese in Australia are still from Taiwan, Malaysia and Singapore.

    A comparison that has just occurred to me is with the non Zionist assimilated and assimilating Jews of Germany before 1920. Of course it can’t be taken too far any more than comparisons of China itself with arrogant Wilhelmine Germany (not least in that case because Germany’s population was still increasing fast). But quite a high proportion of Chinese have come to Australia for what, as well as money, used to draw those that could make it to Hong Kong, including security of property and absence of arbitrary arrest and dodgy trials.

    There is, I also note, a lot less incentive in Australia than there is in the US to be a commercial spy. Not much chance of being caught and punished I suppose for discovering and passing on RIO’s or BHP’s negotiating position on iron ore prices but also not a career choice which is going to be applauded or greatly rewarded in any circles.

    Interesting that the City of Melbourne elected a HK Chinese Lord Mayor with a strong accent about 25 years ago when the Chinese population was minute and I noticed a few days ago that the (elected) President of the Melbourne University Student Association who commented very sensibly to the BBC on some anti-Chinese graffiti at Melbourne University had a 100 per cent Chinese name. There will of course be trouble from losers and they will try to take advantage of whatever features of the successful that they think others may notice and resent. Speaking (as humble proxy I’m afraid) for the very rich I know what it is to have to bear and take mild precautions against such resentments. Having an East Asian or subcontinental face will I suppose just add a degree of difficulty. (Mention of the subcontinent reminds me of what I count as considerable advance. Sri Lankan Airlines is starting a regular direct flight from Melbourne to Colombo, exactly half way to London, and capital of the country from which a high proportion of Melbourne’s educated assimilated brownskinned community comes from. That will cut several hours off the travel time for my annual Australian winter holiday, as does the East Asian financed motorway from Colombo to the south).

  79. Clyde says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Say hello to your new Asian overlords. This is what how it will be 25 years from now as the Babu sticky fingers and the dual loyalty Han Chinese call the shots. America is also headed in the same bad direction but will take longer and might be never. Europeans problem is Camp Of The Saints style invasion by Muslims and Africans.

    China took the mask off yesterday by admitting that its North Korea cat’s paw is how they will create uncertainty and chaos for its Asian economic rivals Japan, Taiwan and South Korea. ChiComs admitted this by saying they will defend North Korean dictator.

    How North Korean leader Kim Jong Un became one of the world’s scariest dictators
    The Independent · 3 hours ago

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  80. @Clyde

    I read the linked Independent piece with interest. Incidentally the reference to the murder of his half brother in Malaysia made me think how many varying explanations we might entertain in our suspicious ignoramce. E.g. murdered by plotters making sure there wad no other family membér avaiable to claim power if they gpt rid of Kim Kong Un.

    But what puzzled me was your par. beginning “China took off the mask yesterday…”. Link plesse. I haven’t seen any such news item.

  81. nebulafox says:

    Einstein. Born. Pauli. Haber. Meitner. Von Neumann. Oppenheimer. Sziliard. Ulam. Wigner. Teller. Mandelbrot. Feynman. Schwinger. Landau. Noether… this list can go on *forever*. And that’s just the hard sciences, off the top of my head. Spinoza, Mendelssohn, Klemperer, Mahler…

    Nietzsche was a philosemite for good reason. Like ’em or not, you can’t deny the contributions of Jews to Western culture, and especially to science, all while surviving thousands of years of nearly nonstop persecution. Only a very able group of people, worthy of respect, can do that.

    Also, Jews aren’t a hive mind politically. Netanyahu certainly doesn’t take his ideological cues from the New York Times editorial board, as his prominent American Democratic liberal co-religionists do, nor do former Soviet emigrants to places like Brighton Beach for the most part.

  82. nebulafox says:

    Almost as if neckbeard white nationalists and SJWs are two sides of the same Millennial identitarian politics loving coin…

  83. Montag says:

    Very 1984. The word cops are out in full force. It is all about labels and their application. We hope the true alt-right won’t fall into the trap laid out by the likes of Soros. That torch-bearing ceremony was straight out of central casting, nothing spontaneous about that, which again, who pays for, and who benefits?

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