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[Excerpted from the latest Radio Derb, now available exclusively through VDARE.com]

Our nation’s Constitution is getting something of a stress test up in the Northwest, especially in the city of Portland. Anarchist rioters have been assaulting the federal courthouse there, along with of course some vandalizing and looting of private property on the side.

(No, I don’t mean to imply that these rioters are inspired by the writings of Peter Kropotkin, Michael Bakunin, and Max Stirner. I’d be very surprised to learn that any of them are inspired by anything more erudite than Marvel Comics and Teen Vogue. We need some way to refer to them collectively, though, and a fully-informative descriptor like “Soros-funded alliance of Occupy, Antifa, Black Lives Matter, and opportunistic black looters” just isn’t snappy enough.)

The constitutional issue here: the proper role of federal law-enforcement in local disturbances. It’s been an issue at some level or other since the very beginnings of the Republic, since the Whiskey Rebellion of the 1790s.

A fundamental principle at play here: localism, also known as the principle of subsidiarity, which says that public issues should be managed and decided at the lowest level able and willing to decide them. You don’t want bureaucrats in Washington, DC telling you whether or not you can build a treehouse in your back yard.

Over against that is the body of our fundamental rights and duties as citizens of a common nation. If my town decides that it’s OK for me to practice human sacrifice in my back yard, higher authorities will have something to say about it, and it’s right that they should.

So what if turbulence well above the window-breaking variety goes on night after night for weeks? And what if the local levels of law enforcement—municipal and state—can’t control it?

Ideally what you’d want to happen then is, those authorities would call on the feds to take over. The feds would come in and restore order, and life would get back to normal.

But what if the local elected officials don’t want to do that? What if, for one reason or another—cold political calculation, perhaps, or a much warmer belief that the guy in charge of the feds is Literally Hitler—what if the Mayor and the Governor prefer the turbulence to just go on, even when rioters are assaulting federal facilities?

A sidebar issue here: the democratic legitimacy of those officials. There are high levels of apathy in municipal voting. I have previously noted the case of New York City, which twice elected Bill De Blasio, a crazy communist, as mayor, on turnouts of thirteen percent and eighteen percent.

Portlanders seem not to be that apathetic. The current mayor, a chap named Ted Wheeler, was elected in 2016. He got 55 percent of the votes in a total turnout just short of two hundred thousand. I can’t find a figure for that turnout as a percentage of the total voter roll; but Portland’s population is 650 thousand, so on the usual rule of thumb that two-thirds are registered voters, only about half of Portlanders turned out to vote, not much more than half of them voting for Wheeler.

So Portlanders are not as dumb as New Yorkers; but if only half of them bother to vote in mayoral elections, it’s tempting for the rest of us to sit back and say: “This current mayhem is what you folk didn’t bother to vote for. Enjoy!”

Except of course that federal facilities belong to the rest of us, not just to Portlanders. If they are being vandalized and assaulted, the rest of us have something to say about it.

If Portland’s mayor, and his state’s governor, don’t like what we have to say, we have further recourse. We can send in federal officers to defend our property and arrest those who are assaulting it,

Or my suggestion: let’s cease all other federal activity in Portland and/or Oregon and stop all federal funding there other than for enforcement of federal laws.

Starve them out!

Back The Blue Footnote:

In my chat with Michelle Malkin on VDARE TV on Thursday, I said the following thing (It’s at 56 minutes, 35 seconds on the video)

ME: I’ve mixed with cops a fair amount. I don’t know how it is country-wide, but in New York, going into the police force, you’re basically going in for twenty years. You go to Police Academy, you come out, you do twenty years, you retire on a very handsome pension; and then you can start a new career, or you can start a handy little business. It’s a pretty good life, and—no offense to anyone—but a lot of guys just don’t want to jeopardize that.

MICHELLE: Yes, that’s a plain fact. There are pension collectors; and, you know, if their staunchest supporters are bloodied in front of them, eh.…

ME: I back the Blue, but with a slightly cold, realistic eye …

Of course, some people did take offense. “We’re putting our lives on the line for you civilians, and you think it’s just about the darn pension?…” et cetera, et cetera.

Well, we don’t always make ourselves clear when speaking impromptu, so let me just say again: I do back the Blue, and am not such a fool as to think we can enjoy peace and safety without a well-trained, well-funded, properly-remunerated police force.

Thanks to all of them for what they do.

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And Michelle’s credentials on this are way more impressive than mine. That was a Back the Blue rally in Denver on Sunday where Michelle got roughed up, and it was one of many, many that she’s attended and spoken at through the years. She’s aggrieved that Denver police had been told to stand down and let the anarchists run wild, and she’s entitled to be aggrieved on that point.

I’m sorry, though, that I didn’t mention, and didn’t give Michelle the chance to mention, that one Denver police lieutenant ignored the stand-down order and kept his guys in place, saving the rally from much worse mayhem[Denver police union head: ‘Stand-down’ order was in effect when pro-cop rally attacked, by Bradford Betz, Fox News, July 22, 2020].

Michelle has already, elsewhere, expressed her thanks and appreciation to that lieutenant, and I’m glad to add my thanks to hers. Thank you, officer!

But the point I was making is still a true one. Yes, police work can be dangerous, even fatal, and any officer at any time can find himself called to an act of selfless heroism. With very rare exceptions, cops answer that call.

There is no contradiction in noting, however, that policing is a really good job if you have the temperament for it.

Again, I can’t speak for the whole country; but where I live in the outer-outer suburbs of New York city, cops retire in the prime of life with gold-plated pensions and benefits. I know by first-hand reports that when my county police headquarters advertises a new round of entrance exams for the local force, the line of applicants goes nine times round the block.

By all means let’s Back The Blue. Let’s also honestly acknowledge, however, that when shyster politicians and their willing stooges in the police command bureaucracy tell rank-and-file officers to stand down to let anarchists run wild, and those rank-and-file officers do stand down, there is more than just blind obedience in play.

All this and a Woke military too.

John Derbyshire [email him] writes an incredible amount on all sorts of subjects for all kinds of outlets. (This no longer includes National Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him.) He is the author of We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism and several other books. He has had two books published by VDARE.com com: FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT (also available in Kindle) and FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT II: ESSAYS 2013.

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  1. Exile says:

    Let Portland burn. After the anarchists destroy the place the shitlibs will move to some other dystopia like Seattle and non-cucked Whites can reclaim and rebuild from the ruins. The Northwest is one of the most suitable areas for Whites on Earth and the faster the dregs and anti-Whites vacate the faster we can restore the natural order and sane society to what used to be a beautiful city.

  2. ‘…By all means let’s Back The Blue. Let’s also honestly acknowledge, however, that when shyster politicians and their willing stooges in the police command bureaucracy tell rank-and-file officers to stand down to let anarchists run wild, and those rank-and-file officers do stand down, there is more than just blind obedience in play.’

    I’m not sure what you’re advocating here. If nothing else, it would seem to be logically inconsistent for the police — those charged with upholding lawful authority –to ignore the instructions of their superiors — that is to say, the instructions of lawful authority.

    The rot pretty definitely lies with our political class. Somehow we’ve wound up electing leaders who seem to be incapable of recognizing even the most basic responsibilities of their jobs. I was a school teacher for a number of years. Whatever my shortcomings, it never would have occurred to me to look benignly on if some of my students started attacking other students. Come to that, I wouldn’t have tolerated them smashing the windows or defacing the walls either.

    Surely this is obvious?

    • Replies: @Johnny Rico
  3. We need some way to refer to them collectively, though, and a fully-informative descriptor like “Soros-funded alliance of Occupy, Antifa, Black Lives Matter, and opportunistic black looters” just isn’t snappy enough.

    Grungers or Grungies.

  4. Biff says:

    By all means let’s Back The Blue.

    Fuck you! I don’t pick sides, and the blue can go get stuffed.

    • Replies: @MOG
  5. Of course, some people did take offense. “We’re putting our lives on the line for you civilians, and you think it’s just about the darn pension?…” et cetera, et cetera.

    F*** the Police. Never forget what those scum did at Charlottesville. Never forget they went easy on Antifa but arrested Proud Boys.

    So, if BLM and Antifa want to kill the police, I say go ahead.

    I can go with the Antifa slogan “Kill the Pigs”.

    Cops coddled the scum, so let them pay the price.

  6. Anon401 says:

    Thank you for cucking, John.

    When the mob comes to burn down my home, I will eject all of my available ammunition in a spirited defense, then lay down my arms, do my best to march through the opening I created (if possible), directly to the nearest cop and fellate him in apology for using my constitutional privileges.

    Blue lives matter.

    • Replies: @Biff
  7. “The price of liberty is eternal vigilance,” and that vigilance needs to be alert to dangers from whatever direction.

  8. anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:

    He needs to show his readership that he knows the definition of “anarchy,” but Mr. Derbyshire’s once again an unreflective statist with Exceptional! fealty to his adopted Uncle Sam.

    Except of course that federal facilities belong to the rest of us, not just to Portlanders. If they are being vandalized and assaulted, the rest of us have something to say about it.

    If Portland’s mayor, and his state’s governor, don’t like what we have to say, we have further recourse. We can send in federal officers to defend our property and arrest those who are assaulting it[.]

    And the long fawning apology for something as benign as

    I back the Blue, but with a slightly cold, realistic eye

    is supposed to be Dissident, Right?

  9. SafeNow says:

    When William F. Buckley was musing that Camp of the Saints was prescient, he asked, “What will you do? Will you shoot them? Will you starve them?” Of course the question was rhetorical; you cannot starve them.

    He also stated that immigration laws seem too harsh and inhumane when applied to particular individuals. Of course this must be broadened to apply to federal intervention. A repetition of the iconic Kent State photo, a kneeling over the body of just one single fallen Portland “protestor,” could convince Americans that the entire policy is too harsh.

    Tucker just argued that the “on the right track / on the wrong track” poll number is by far the most important metric regarding upcoming election. Chaos in Portland and other places convinces Americans that, gee, this is bad, this must mean we are on the wrong track.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  10. Sean says:

    Yes the police is a safe job with a pension, and if you play ball shortly before you retire you will be promoted simply to be entitled to a much enhanced pension for ever after. So that lieutenant’s action will end up costing him plenty. The police are much better remunerated than those in the killing machine known as the army; leaving the army to join the police is increasingly common. It is not so much militarized policing as the so called Warrior Policing that is the problem.

    It has got to a stage where the police are not willing to take risks to justify their pay relative to a soldier’s. And some individuals enjoy acting like robocop. So they have lost a lot of sympathy and they need to alter their way of doing things if they don’t want to lose more.

    • Agree: Oliver Elkington, Escher
    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  11. Svevlad says:

    call em “unruly cattle who masturbate over marvel movies and teen vogue, piss and 1000 bloodline curses be upon them”

  12. Biff says:
    @Anon401

    Blue lives matter.

    Fuck that! All lives matter.
    Now, try and get me fired.

  13. Two comments to add friends. Best friend retired 20 years as a NYC cop, patrolman. In the late eighties and early nineties had a posting in NY’s largest housing project. So large it had its own station. The usual pathologies very present and of course ‘nobody be seeing nuffin’. Got so when they had a call, lights and sirens and just came to wait for the coroner or ambulance. Went on to join the force at a decent suburb and pleasantly surprised at the vast difference.
    So many comments in multiple blogs about the declining percentage (projected) of Caucasian citizens in the population, I have to add a caveat.
    Your skilled trades will be overwhelmingly Caucasian. Healthcare a mix of Caucasian, Asian, and the more complex areas of practice will have few of any group not just mentioned. This also holds true for food production, utility technology, and higher stem occupations.
    Another short anecdote: a master plumber in NYC would serve just two neighborhoods, north of the ghetto. Always polite when answering the phone inquiries “sorry too much to do, but here’s the number of a service close to you”. It was a Jamaican family that sent two or three big guys to price a job after determining what needed to be done. No checks accepted. They did very well, deservedly so.

  14. “Of course, some people did take offense. “We’re putting our lives on the line for you civilians, and you think it’s just about the darn pension?…”

    The use of the word “civilian” is telling.

    Almost as if they view themselves as an occupying army.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Sulu
  15. unit472 says:

    The rot set in with the “Counter Culture’ after 1968. A year much like 2020. I was a teenager in San Francisco back then and we had slightly corrupt but effective mayor, Joe Alioto, who still had a functioning municipal government. There were no militarized SWAT units back then but Alioto had the TAC Squad, a unit of extremely large cops ( you had to be at least 5 foot 9 inches tall to even qualify for the SFPD in those days) and he’d use them. They’d arrive on horseback and carried long truncheons. Unruly mobs would quickly disperse when they showed up because everyone knew what would happen next and it was extremely unpleasant for those who met the TAC Squad up close and personal!

    Contrast Alioto’s San Francisco, Rizzo’s Philadelphia or Daly’s Chicago with what we have running America’s cities today. Take New York’s police Commissioner Dermot Shea. This ‘man’ would be more comfortable in a gay bath house than a police precinct and exudes no more authority than a 97 lbs weakling. No wonder New York cops are retiring in record numbers so it would appear that most cops actually liked their jobs and were working even though they were eligible for retirement at least until De Blasio and Dermot Shea arrived on the scene. Now I doubt even the prospect of a good paying secure job and a pension is going to attract men capable of enforcing the law to join the NYPD. Just ‘men’ like Dermot Shea.

    • Agree: VinnyVette
    • Replies: @ruralguy
  16. Absolutely yes in closing all federal facilities in Portland. I also would give the pink slip to every federal employee working there, and end all federal contracts to businesses there. Also no federal money to the city.

  17. anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bill Jones

    Even more telling would be Mr. Derbyshire’s unreflective use of the term if this is a paraphrase, as opposed to a specific quotation.

    He and Mrs. Malkin were both all in with the ChinaDidIt, too.

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Bill Jones
  18. Cosmopolitan news outlets are nothing more than communications repeaters for Bloombergs’ professional gun-control antifa.

    [MORE]

    News Outlets Turn a Blind Eye on The Trace’s Anti-Gun Bent
    COMMENTARY
    .
    By John R. Lott Jr.

    NPR, Politico, Time, and Scientific American are unlikely ever to pay an NRA employee to write news articles about gun control. But they have no problem hiring people who work for The Trace, a Michael Bloomberg-funded gun control organization. Even in the very hypothetical case that these publications did use an NRA-influenced article, they would undoubtedly include a disclaimer warning readers of the possible bias.

    The Trace, which has made a business out of attacking people who have received money from gun rights organizations, doesn’t receive the same scrutiny from the rest of the media. Instead, news outlets hide or ignore The Trace’s financial ties to Bloomberg. NPR describes it as “an independent, nonprofit journalism organization dedicated to covering issues related to guns in America.” When I pointed out to a senior editor at Scientific American that contributing editor Melinda Wenner Moyer is also a regular paid writer for The Trace, he insisted that none of his staff had a conflict of interest and that The Trace was a nonprofit newsroom.

    This past week, Moyer had a piece at The Trace arguing that the increase in gun sales over the last few months is linked to the recent surge in urban shootings. In another, she claimed that guns don’t keep one’s family safer.

    But Moyer fails to mention the standing down and disbandment of police units, or the release of prisoners amid the pandemic. These factors can lead to a surge in crime. She ignores that the causation with gun sales might be going the other way, with people buying guns as they see the breakdown of the legal system and having to rely on themselves for protection. Instead, she blames the 30% increase in murders in New York City or the 78% increase in Chicago in June on gun sales that increased the national supply of firearms by only a couple of percentage points.

    The Trace toes the same ideological line as Bloomberg’s other nonprofit gun control organizations, such as Everytown for Gun Safety. A search through the last several years of The Trace’s articles does not reveal any with a pro-gun slant. Not a single one approvingly discusses research that has found a benefit from gun ownership.

    And that’s not for lack of pro-gun research. The largest survey of academics who have published peer-reviewed empirical research on gun violence (murders, suicides, accidental discharges, etc.), which I conducted with Arthur Berg of Harvard and Gary Mauser of Simon Fraser University, showed that criminologists and economists are generally very skeptical of gun control. Public health researchers were much more divided.

    On the issue of concealed handguns (there are several dozen peer-reviewed papers), more than two-thirds find a benefit from people carrying them. Moyer’s article for Scientific American (“Journey to Gunland”) is typical of what she writes for The Trace. She focused on one paper claiming bad effects from concealed handguns, ignoring all the other research, including one study that looked at the same data and the same methods as the paper she discussed and showed how that small changes in their estimates produced the opposite results.

    Other Trace articles last week attack the NRA and other groups such as Iowa Gun Owners. Over the years, you won’t find a single article that is critical of groups such as Moms Demand Action, Everytown, or The Brady Campaign. One recent article, “The NRA’s Unshakable Support for Police,” accuses the NRA of supporting the police because of the “reliable” donations that it receives from officers.

    The Trace, like other gun control advocacy groups, is at odds with police in part because officers are so overwhelmingly in favor of gun ownership. Recent anti-police headlines have included: “An Arkansas Cop Said He’d Shoot at Protestors. Then He Killed a Fellow Cop,” and “The ‘Warrior Cop’ Is a Toxic Mentality. And a Lucrative Industry”).

    The article on Iowa Gun Owners again focuses on the influence of money. It claims that the group “honed a brand of fiery Second Amendment activism that doesn’t sway lawmakers, but keeps the donations flowing.”

    Ironically, despite all of its attacks on others, The Trace never acknowledges just how financially beholden it is to Bloomberg’s deep pockets. The Trace attacks the NRA for buying influence with Congress, but you would never know from the site’s articles that while the NRA spent $880,000 on congressional races in 2018, Bloomberg invested $110 million.

    As I show in my new book, “Gun Control Myths,” the money Bloomberg spends on gun control organizations such as The Trace and campaign donations are just part of the money that he spends pushing for more gun control.

    The Trace seems to have a hard time believing that people could support gun ownership without being paid to do so. Maybe if the staff read some pro-gun academic research, they would understand that people have good reasons to believe in the power of self-defense.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/07/22/news_outlets_turn_a_blind_eye_on_the_traces_anti-gun_bent_143767.html

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  19. Realist says:
    @anonymous

    He and Mrs. Malkin were both all in with the ChinaDidIt, too.

    Agreed.

  20. ruralguy says:
    @unit472

    Good point about the rot setting in after the 1968 counterculture.

    Democracy allows weak and pathetic losers to rule, like the Minneapolis Mayer Frey, a pajama-boy mayor who ordered city workers to serve water to the rioters when Minneapolis first started to burn.

    • Agree: Lost american
  21. Mountain in a molehill. Tempest in a teapot. You make a big deal out of nothing. I think articles like this are part of a concerted, planned, and paid-for effort to support our owner’s agenda. Get you all het up about nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Instead of what you should be het up about–three trillion going to the trillionaires.

  22. @Joe Stalin

    Lott believes blacks have a right to possess firearms, and Bloomberg does not. Guess which one agrees with the Founding Fathers on that!

  23. ME: I back the Blue, but with a slightly cold, realistic eye …

    When Curtis Sliwa’s Guardian Angels first came on the scene, an unnamed NYPD officer was quoted saying “They’re scabbing my job!”

  24. Anon[374] • Disclaimer says:

    Portland is a port city, on the Pacific Ocean. Much could be smuggled into Portland if the Feds were driven out: illegal people, fentanyl, bomb-material, biological material. Much could also be smuggled out: wanted spies, criminals, secrets.

    Gotta be a reason that two boring port cities like Seattle and Portland are so desired by the left.

    • Agree: artichoke
    • Replies: @theMann
  25. MOG says:
    @Biff

    That brings to mind the Virginia woman who called 911 during the riots there when hoodlums were vandalizing her house and threatening her. The 911 operator told her to call the mayor’s office.

    • Replies: @Biff
  26. where I live in the outer-outer suburbs of New York city, cops retire in the prime of life with gold-plated pensions and benefits”

    And now you know why the average property tax bill in LI and Westchester is probably north of $8,000 a year. And that’s just the average. In some towns you pay twice or three times that. You’re paying for every cop’s pension, and for mediocre teachers. I don’t see how this is sustainable. I don’t know how suburban New Yorkers make a go of it, honestly.

    The public has a right to be angry over these public “servant” piggies feasting at the government trough for 60 years of their lives, while constantly lecturing us about how grateful we should be that they do. And this sanctimonious hostility from cops only got worse after 9/11, when they suddenly became known as “first responders” (a completely new term) and used a terrorist incident to squeeze more and more blood from taxpayers.

    The way to reform the police is to target their pay and pensions. It’s the only thing they care about. Do that and they’ll quit, which should be the goal. Don’t be stupid and violent like Portlanders. Hell, they’re so stupid they don’t even realize they’re doing the Portland police a favor. They still get paid while not having to work.

  27. ‘Starve Portland Out! and Back the Blue—with A Cold Eye’

    You can certainly starve Portland out.

    I just don’t see why any temporary capitulation on their part should alter the policy.

    There’s an international airport there. If they want food, they can leave.

  28. @Bragadocious

    ‘…The way to reform the police is to target their pay and pensions. It’s the only thing they care about. Do that and they’ll quit, which should be the goal…’

    This is all well and good; but first do something about the blacks. This gets back to set theory:

    No police, no blacks — okay.

    Police, no blacks — also okay.

    Police, blacks — not so hot, but okay.

    No police, but blacks — are you really up for that? I mean, we can discuss it, but…

    • Agree: Sulu
    • Replies: @Bragadocious
  29. @Sean

    That guys eyes are so close together that one more generation of inbreeding will naturally result in Cyclops.

  30. @Bragadocious

    The way to reform the police is to target their pay and pensions

    … and to end qualified immunity, legislate a duty of care, mandate body cameras, and make it a firing, pension-killing event if the camera is ever switched off (and of course “[body-camera] pics or it didn’t happen” as far as evidence goes, given what is known about police dishonesty as witnesses).

    Also disqualify any ex-member of the armed forces from being a cop – especially combat arms, but equally-especially those who wash out of combat arms.

    That list gets it done, but will never ever ever be enacted. Police unions are more politically powerful than Jewish organised crime, and far more powerful than Italian organised crime.

    • Disagree: Lost american
  31. Biff says:
    @MOG

    That brings to mind the Virginia woman who called 911 during the riots there when hoodlums were vandalizing her house and threatening her. The 911 operator told her to call the mayor’s office.

    You do realize that the whites, the cops, the hoodlums, and the mayor himself will sell you out and down the river in the name of their own self interests(the human condition).
    Who you gonna call?

    Who you gonna trust?
    Those who steal?
    Or those who are trained to steal?

  32. Sean says:
    @Kratoklastes

    That kind of over-reaction ignores that cops will happily avoid getting into a situation where there is a risk of disciplinary action. Which is why eras of panic over police brutality cycle with ones of concern about rampant criminality..

  33. Do people see the role of French-Canadian Tax Dodgers in entertainment like those demagogues of UbiSoft for example?

  34. Clearly Portland needs more blacks. Blacks should be encouraged through rent support and government jobs to relocate to Portland so the mostly peaceful protesters can finally take a break from their exhausting efforts to topple white supremacy. Of course with an influx of federally funded blacks competing for apartments and jobs the white hipsters may themselves have to relocate to less fashionable but more affordable towns in the midwest but they will find lots of blacks there who will appreciate and embrace their new woke white neighbors. This is a win-win proposition that could be proffered by either presidential candidate to great applause by white allies of black people everywhere.

  35. @SafeNow

    When William F. Buckley was musing that Camp of the Saints was prescient, he asked, “What will you do? Will you shoot them? Will you starve them?” Of course the question was rhetorical; you cannot starve them.

    A: Both. you can’t starve them, but you can let them starve. Buck is the Ur-Cuck.

    A repetition of the iconic Kent State photo, a kneeling over the body of just one single fallen Portland “protestor,” could convince Americans that the entire policy is too harsh.

    I won’t post the pic, but perhaps the scene to be recreated is the one of Napalm Girl in Vietnam. Would anyone really miss Portland if the Feds burned it to the Ground?

  36. KenH says:
    @Priss Factor

    I’m finding it hard to disagree. The watershed moment for me was when the Charlottesville PD mistreated the UtR rally goers. Some UtR attendees were chanting pro-police slogans on their way to the park and giving the police the thumbs up sign only a short time later to have these same police threaten them with bodily harm if they didn’t leave Lee Park and pushing them into throngs of violent antifa and left wing protesters.

  37. @Colin Wright

    When you come down to it, blacks spend most of their time bothering each other, not me. Also I wouldn’t get rid of all the cops, but I think we could encourage half of them to quit and not suffer any ill effects. Of course cops will scream “it will be a bloodbath!” They always do.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  38. @Kratoklastes

    Good list, to which I would add the elimination of police overtime. Cops get literally rich bilking taxpayers for overtime. The NYPD pegs pensions to final average salary, as seen here.

    Final average salary (FAS) is the average wages earned by a member during any 3 consecutive calendar years or 36 months immediately preceding the member’s retirement date that provides the highest average wage. Wages include base salary, overtime, night differential, holiday pay, portal to portal and worked vacation. If the wages earned during any year included in the period exceeds the average of the prior two years by more than 10%, the amount in excess of 10% shall be excluded.

    Cops go into overtime hyperdrive in those last 3 years. Do they have to be doing vital things? No. Taxpayers never signed up for this kind of graft.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  39. @Priss Factor

    Our side can no longer deny that the boys in blue, first, are hired palookas. They work for their fat salaries, golden pensions and free doughnuts.

    Time to stop idolizing them. Time to recognize they’re just wage cucks, albeit well compensated wage cucks with guns.

  40. @Bragadocious

    I liked Derbyshire better before he became a cop suck up. Time for our public servants[sic] to take a long overdue cut in salary and benefits.

    And if they don’t like it, none of them is ever too old to learn to ask, “Would you like large fries with your Big Mac today?”

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    , @Colin Wright
  41. Hibernian says:
    @Bragadocious

    I associate portal to portal with coal miners. A state trooper who used to live in my building parked his patrol car in our parking lot. Don’t know if he went to roll call each shift like city cops. They mainly patrolled the expressways, and we’re quite close to one. Does portal to portal for the NYPD relate to a similar situation?

  42. @anonymous

    If you look at the numbers, a cop is ten times more likely to kill “a civilian” than to be killed by one.

    Whose life is on the line?

  43. artichoke says:
    @Bragadocious

    They’re a gang!

    Yeah, but they’re our gang, and at least in small towns, they know that you pay them. Would you rather have them in charge, or BLM / Antifa? BLM will make sure you pay and also that you’re humiliated.

    • Replies: @Biff
  44. @Bragadocious

    ‘… When you come down to it, blacks spend most of their time bothering each other, not me.’

    If you really believe that’ll suffice, I’ve got a hot tip on where you can get your next house for cheap.

  45. Safenow says:

    “You do realize that the whites, the cops, the hoodlums, and the mayor himself will sell you out and down the river in the name of their own self interests(the human condition).
    Who you gonna call?

    Who you gonna trust?”

    For now, I would trust my colleagues in some small city in Montana. I read where some Antifa guys showed-up in Missoula, were greeted by armed locals, and so departed. The question is, after the Dem administration takes over in January, how far will the U.S. Cultural Revolution reach? Everywhere?… no matter how small and how remote? My guess is “everywhere.” A Missoula guy will keep his head down and live his life. He won’t say anything unwoke to his kids, or they might mention it to their friends or their teacher. He will still have grilling, the grill won’t be taken away.

    • Replies: @Wayne
  46. I have been hoping for Live Ammo response since day/night one in Minneapolis. ALL these Commies regardless of Color or Banner should have been read the riot act and shot for noncompliance on Day One. Yes i am fully aware i am dreaming 100% , we all know that ALL the eggheads in power on any level including Trump are in on the game. The Times are Biblical not political, cultural, financial etc. Those are just cover for the eggheads true master, Satan. Bible…..Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth. Wake up folks.

  47. theMann says:
    @Anon

    Portland Oregon is a port city, but it is not on the ocean. It is about 70 miles inland on the confluence of the Columbia and the Willamette rivers. Every ocean going ship that goes into the port of Portland has to negotiate the Columbia Bar, where the river meets the ocean at Astoria, one of the more dangerous navigational barriers in the USA.

    The point is, it is easier to shut the port area down than you might think.

    • Replies: @Safenow
  48. Safenow says:
    @theMann

    Yes, this Columbia River area is a challenge even for the USCG. I doubt Trump would close the Portland port, but he could pull out the USCG because it is dangerous to go ashore. Or even operate in the river. Seems hard to believe? During Katrina, victims sometimes punched their Coast Guard rescuers in the face, and that was a quiet time.

  49. @Kolya Krassotkin

    I believe the phrase is “Learn to code”

    • Replies: @VinnyVette
  50. @Kratoklastes

    I clearly remember at least 10 soldiers finsihing 4 years of active duty who were applying for police forces in many areas to include Long Island , NY and San Francisco, California. These 22 yo men were the most polite, well disciplined, dedicated men I had met in a long time. I was working at a US Army base in the east. I did extensive exams and looked at their records. Their concern for other people was extraordinary and they also had tremendous stamina, courage, and intelligence.
    These men were far better citizens and human beings than all the high school graduates that were applying to the police force. All the soldiers I saw were scouts or infantrymen.

    • Thanks: Safenow
  51. Biff says:
    @artichoke

    They’re a gang!

    Yeah, but they’re our gang, and at least in small towns, they know that you pay them. Would you rather have them in charge, or BLM / Antifa? BLM will make sure you pay and also that you’re humiliated.

    Far as I can tell all those gangs are on same side…

  52. @Kolya Krassotkin

    ‘Time for our public servants[sic] to take a long overdue cut in salary and benefits.’

    That’s just it. Now is not the time for that.

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
  53. @Bill Jones

    “learn to code”… Right so they can train some Indian and Chinese multinational to replace them… Fail!

  54. Cops have been way out of contro for decadesl in regards to harassing people during routine traffic stops, and turning them into fiasco’s after the driver has had enough, excessive use of force when the situation doesn’t call for it, pulling people over under some false pretense just to ask. them “where they are going or where they came from.” Basically “papers please!” I could go on and on. They do these things in the suburbs, rural areas to whites as well as blacks where there is very little if any serious crime. They are rarely if ever held accountable. They have this attitude that they “are the law” not there to “enforce the law.” They think they are a privileged class above the citizens they are hired to supposedly “protect and serve.” They think the law doesn’t apply to them either.
    As much as I dislike this BLM / Antifa bullshit, I’m enjoying the pigs getting some Karmic retribution.
    Cops are a menace to society!

  55. @Colin Wright

    Whatever my shortcomings, it never would have occurred to me to look benignly on if some of my students started attacking other students.

    What is obvious?

    That you have a very high opinion of how you would theoretically react in a situation that never happened to you? You are a hero in counterfactual history.

    You are a great guy. It seems like your motives are always true and good. I believe you.

    That you have never made a mistake, “whatever your shortcomings.”

    Unfortunately real life is not so black and white. We know that most people run away to avoid “looking benignly on” and then deny awareness of the situation or event. We know this from the #MeToo movement and then various high-profile celebrity and political/judicial trials and congressional hearings.

    Deception and self-deception. Humans are good at it. You, not so much maybe.

  56. @Colin Wright

    You’re right. We should have cut the pay and benefits to our public servants[sic] a long time ago, not just to the police but to all public servants.

    We simply no longer have the economic wherewithal to pay for these sleek, well-fed court eunuchs, most of whom are chosen for their connections, instead of their abilities.

    • Disagree: RadicalCenter
  57. lysias says:

    Fort Sumter was a federal installation.

    • Replies: @Anon
  58. Wayne says:
    @Safenow

    That wasn’t Missoula. Missoula’s the the college town island in a sea of right wing Montana. Been there.

  59. Sulu says:
    @Bill Jones

    If you are a cop there are only three types of people. First there are other cops. Then any non cop that is usually law abiding is a civilian. And then there are perps.

    Sulu

  60. Ko says:

    I’d love to see the military go into Portland and ask the communists to leave. And then, like in the movie A Bronx Tale, when a gaggle of asshole bikers chose a mobster bar to rowdy up, they were asked by a mobster boss to politely to leave. When they refused and resumed assholing, the mobster walked over to the door and locked it, turned to the bikers and said, ‘Now youz can’t leave.’ That’s when the military appears and rounds up the Atifags, beats the crap out of them, then takes them on a plane ride over the Pacific to discard them into the cold ocean – which is what should be done to communists.

    • Agree: Lost american
  61. Anon[373] • Disclaimer says:
    @lysias

    Ft Sumter was a piece of land CEDED to the Federal Government by the people of the State of South Carolina. Once they decided to SUCCEED they get it back.

    Furthermore, the Confederate States offered to pay Mr Lincoln for it. That was not his concern, goofball.

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