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[Adapted from the latest Radio Derb, now available exclusively on VDARE.com]

There was a tragic sinking last week off the coast of Greece, with many drowned. The boat in the story here was traveling from the coast of Libya to Italy when it capsized off Greece [Greek migrant boat wreck may be Mediterranean’s ‘worst ever tragedy’ with hundreds still missing, CNN, June 19, 2023 ].

The context here is the ongoing flood of Third Worlders heading northwards across the Mediterranean looking for a better life in Europe than the one they’re enduring in Africa or the Middle East.

Sad for all concerned, but useful material for those propagandizing on behalf of unlimited mass immigration. One of them: Sadiq Khan, Mayor of London.

Last Tuesday, June 20th, has been designated by the United Nations as World Refugee Day. (The whole week was in fact Refugee Week, although that—the Week, not the Day—seems to be just a British thing).

Using one or other of those as a hook, the Mayor delivered a speech:

Video Link

Just a few days ago we saw the consequences of immoral and dangerous immigration policies across Europe where we discovered dozens of people who had died as a consequence of the Greek ship that we know about, that floundered [sic] a few days ago. And we also discovered that many asylum seekers, refugees and migrants were stowed below the deck. They had no chance to escape, no chance to survive.

And the reason why asylum-seekers, refugees, and others are risking their lives, their childrens’ lives to find a safe haven is because our country and other countries in Europe, in the global north—wealthy countries, who prospered from these countries where people are coming from over centuries—there’s no safe passages.

The most successful Olympian this country’s ever had—a double Olympic gold medalist—Mohamed Farah, was an asylum-seeker and refugee. Many of us were asking the question: “What is the most British shop on the High Street?” Who knows that Marks from Marks and Spencer, was a refugee, somebody who first was seeking asylum. One of the most famous musicians, artists, in the world at the moment, a British North Londoner, Dua Lipa—her parents fled Kosovo twenty or so years ago.

All I want to say to you is this. Look, I won the golden ticket, I won the lottery, because I was born in London. My grandparents were refugees. They left India to go into Pakistan when the British Empire decided to carve up India. If you were a Muslim and you were living in India you had to seek asylum to Pakistan, where people were more Muslims than they were Hindus. My parents were migrants who came to this country. I always had the humility to realize that you could have been … that I could have been born somewhere else.

We’ve got to educate people about why this country is great, why this city’s the greatest city in the world, and the history of immigration, asylum seekers and refugees.

Have a great refugee week. As long as I’m there, London is open and you are welcome.[Links added]

I shall leave aside His Honor’s not knowing that “foundered” and “floundered” are two different words. (I’ll tackle that when I’ve finally persuaded the English-speaking world that the expression “to lay down” is ungrammatical unless you are covering something with goose feathers).

I shall mention in passing that there seems to be a definite bias in Mayor Khan’s choice of immigrant heroes for our admiration: Mohamed Farah and Dua Lipa are both from Muslim families, as is Mr Mayor himself. (The Michael Marks in “Marks & Spencer” was, I’ll allow, not from a Muslim family, and might, if he were still among us, object to being placed in such company.)

Just look at the mentality on view there in the Mayor’s speech. The immigration policies of European nations are, he tells us, “immoral and dangerous.”

Why? Because “there’s no safe passage.”

The underlying idea there, if you unpack that, is that all the billions of Africa and the Middle East have every right to migrate safely to Europe, so the European countries are immoral for not enabling safe transit for them.

Also that Europeans “prospered … over centuries” from exploiting those countries. As we can see from places that never had European overlords—Ethiopia, say, or Afghanistan—they would have done so much better if left alone.

Oh, yes, and, “the British Empire decided to carve up India.” In the absence of that heartless carving-up, majority-Hindu India and majority-Muslim Pakistan would have cohabited harmoniously in a single nation.

Uh-huh.

Sadiq Khan was born in Britain, but his family were originally Indian Muslims. They lived in the city of Lucknow, in present-day India.

When the Brits “decided to carve up India” a.k.a. leave in 1947, however, Indian Muslims decided to have a country of their own—Pakistan—and Mayor Khan’s parents fled there. It was from there, from Pakistan, that they immigrated to Britain.

(The new country came in two disconnected parts, one in the East, one in the Northwest. The Eastern part seceded in 1971 after a brief but nasty civil war to become present-day Bangladesh.)

Did you know that London has a Mayor of Indian-Muslim origins? You very likely did know that the U.K. has a Prime Minister, Rishi Sunak, of Hindu-Indian family; although like Mayor Khan, he was born in Britain.

On the other hand you may not have known that the lead politician in Scotland—formally the First Minister of that not-quite-country—is a fellow named Humza Haroon Yousaf, Scottish-born to a Muslim family from Pakistan.

To complete the suite there is of course the Taoiseachwhich is to say Prime Minister—of the Republic of Ireland, Leo Varadkar, son of an Indian father from Bombay and an Irish mother from County Waterford.

ORDER IT NOW

So the politics of the British Isles has been pretty thoroughly Indiacized. You might object that I should be saying “Indiacized and Pakistanified.” Remember, however, that today’s India and Pakistan—along with today’s Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Burma, and some other bits and pieces—were all part of British India.

Pakistanis? To paraphrase my friend Jared Taylor in a different context: They look Indian to me.

So recent decades have seen a quite comprehensive Indiacization of the Anglosphere, or at any rate of its northern components. We haven’t yet had a U.S. President of Indian ancestry, although Vivek Ramaswamy is reaching for the brass ring.

In the commercial sphere, though, Indian-origin CEOs are definitely a thing, with mixed results for free speech, as we at VDARE.com have been documenting.

Another item on immigration into the U.K.: Yesterday, Thursday the 22nd of June, was the 75th anniversary of the arrival of the ship Empire Windrush in London’s Tilbury Dock, bringing five hundred black immigrants from Jamaica. This was the beginning of large-scale black immigration into Britain. Britain’s Royal Mint has released a coin to commemorate the anniversary.

The blacks were not universally welcomed back then in 1948. Eleven Labour Party Members of Parliament wrote to the Labour Prime Minister, Clement Attlee, that

An influx of coloured people domiciled here is likely to impair the harmony, strength and cohesion of our public and social life.

Letter to the Prime Minister, 22 June, 1948.

What bigoted, narrow-minded attitudes—from Labour Party members, indeed—which is to say, socialists. Good grief!

Oh wait, what’s this?

Black men make up six percent of London (thirteen percent if you include women) but commit almost fifty percent of the city’s murders.

Black murder victims and suspects: London v UK, Sky News, July 25, 2018

That’s as much as I can bear to say about Britain’s immigration issues. As you can see, they come garbed in just as much sentimentality, dishonesty, idiocy, and cuckery as our own.

For very full coverage of the Empire Windrush anniversary and all the nonsense it has generated, I strongly recommend the June 22nd piece by the wise, witty, and infallible Ed West at his Substack account.

The title of Ed’s piece is: You Called … and We Came,” which is in turn the title of a sappy poem much favored by Open-Borders zealots over there.

The subhead is “Windrush as the new national origin story” which is absurd when you think that most ordinary Britons would trace Britain’s origins to Hengist and Horsa [449 AD] if not before.

John Derbyshire [email him] writes an incredible amount on all sorts of subjects for all kinds of outlets. (This no longer includes National Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him.) He is the author of We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism and several other books. He has had two books published by VDARE.com com: FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT (also available in Kindle) and FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT II: ESSAYS 2013.

(Republished from VDare by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. anonymous[189] • Disclaimer says:

    Would you support secession of southwest England to create a white ethno-state?

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
  2. Anonymous[166] • Disclaimer says:

    Notice the contemptuous way that Sad Khant snarled out the words ‘British Empire’ and ‘partition of India’.
    A real, deep, hatred and aggression seems to have been triggered by the mere mention of both?

    – And what was the ‘British Empire’, merely the direct historic predecessor of the state which Sad Khant helps to run. Even deeper than that, in the final analysis, the ‘British Empire’ was the direct manifestation of the British people, since an average of land cannot, of course, within itself have any agency.

    Therefore, somehow and someway, the *real* British people have managed to put in overlordship of themselves a man holds a deep deep personal grudge against them, and who really hates them.

    • Replies: @James N. Kennett
  3. Miro23 says:

    That’s as much as I can bear to say about Britain’s immigration issues. As you can see, they come garbed in just as much sentimentality, dishonesty, idiocy, and cuckery as our own.

    The Royal family pays tribute to black immigrants for “rebuilding Britain”

    ‘We are forever grateful’ : Prince William and Kate Middleton pay tribute to Windrush generation for ‘rebuilding Britain’ with heartwarming video on 75th anniversary of their arrival into the UK

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12223623/Prince-William-Kate-Middleton-pay-tribute-Windrush-generation-rebuilding-Britain.html

    • Thanks: HammerJack
    • Replies: @janner1
  4. SafeNow says:

    When Georgia Meloni was campaigning, she said Italy must have a “safe” border. Not an impermeable border, but a safe border. The American version of this is “humanitarian crisis.” Even Tucker took refuge in this. On a good day, he would say that the problem with migration is how that cohort and its descendants would someday vote. Seldom does a columnist or editorial board, and never does a politician, identify the real problems. Thanks for the murder chart, Derb. But getting murdered is an outlier consequence. As a Californian, I know the daily-life consequences, because we are a generation or two further along in that regard. That’s the main thing. The affronts, compromises, frustrations, and humiliations of daily life.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  5. janner1 says:
    @Miro23

    Are you innumerate ? The so called ‘black’ population in England/Wales shrank from 2011 to 2019 and is about 3.x percent compared to America’s 13% or 12% .

    I am English-American and I will tell you unequivocally that the English look down on Americans like SSA Africans look down on black Americans.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  6. Realist says:

    So the politics of the British Isles has been pretty thoroughly Indiacized.

    We haven’t yet had a U.S. President of Indian ancestry

    Britain saw fit to colonize and Rule over India for eighty-nine years…so Karma is a bitch.

    The United States has been pretty thoroughly Africanized, thanks to a stupid mistake made over four hundred years ago…again Karma is a bitch.

  7. Oh, yes, and, “the British Empire decided to carve up India.” In the absence of that heartless carving-up, majority-Hindu India and majority-Muslim Pakistan would have cohabited harmoniously in a single nation.

    Derb seems to think the British Empire was a positive force in the world, rather than a drug and human trafficking mafia operation.

    I’m beginning to think British schools are the most remarkable brainwashing factories ever devised. Even Trotskyite Chris Hitchens defended their empire.

    • Replies: @martin_2
    , @Lurker
  8. There’s a big question of the cause of this evil against the White World being intentional or not.

    What I mean is, is much of this about the female-style. short-run “compassion” with no regard for the future of the World – the latter also involving a different long-term compassion, but with a sane unemotional mind-set to go with it, i.e., a masculine thing? Stupidity + Power = Evil. Or, are more of the people pushing this evil doing it just plain purposely to ruin the White World. No doubt, it’s still Evil just the same either way.

    Which would be the case with Herr Merkel from a decade back? In the case of Mayor Khan, I think I know …

    That leads me to a bad thought, but as evil as the Globalists can get, I would not discount it – did someone sink the boat off Greece to force the invasion into high gear again?

    Hey, the level of evil around may surprise you. Don’t sell these people short.

  9. @SafeNow

    Thanks for that on the statement from Meroni, SafeNow. I had thought she was going to be of help. She seemed to take the violence and societal changes pretty personally.

    Yes, California is a decade or two ahead again. It sounds like you are stuck there. Sorry for what you’re going through. It’s not like anyone could have foreseen this, though … no, of course not … foreseeng things can be very racist and Xenophobic.

  10. @janner1

    the English look down on Americans

    Like the equally insufferable Canadians, they are convinced they can do diversity better.

    Does Britain have an “official language” yet? That’s a big red flag– no healthy nation needs such a thing. Whatever for?

    • Replies: @Janner1
  11. @Realist

    “Britain saw fit to colonize and Rule over India for eighty-nine years…so Karma is a bitch.”

    Ever seen a Greek or Hungarian president of Turkey? How about a Vietnamese president of China, or a Korean president of Japan? How about a Catholic prelate lording it in Mecca?

    Either Karma is a highly selective bitch… or you’re a total retard.

    Occam’s Razor applies.

    • Agree: HammerJack
    • Troll: Realist
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Nat X
    , @unzrocks
  12. “There was a tragic sinking last week off the coast of Greece, with many drowned. The boat in the story here was traveling from the coast of Libya to Italy when it capsized off Greece [Greek migrant boat wreck may be Mediterranean’s ‘worst ever tragedy’ with hundreds still missing, CNN, June 19, 2023 ]

    Where is the tragedy?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Renard
  13. Janner1 says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    The closest thing to a lingua franca would be the received pronunciation or RP accent. However, Britain has always been multicultural as Cornwall/Devonshire, Orkney, lowland Scotland, Yorkshire and several demographics in Wales etc.. form separate genetic clusters from the main English one. The sea acted not so much as a barrier but as a means for immigrants or invaders to come over e.g. Phoenician and Armenian strains can be found in Cornwall through the trading of tin in ancient times.

    My genetic autosomal profile from the middle ages :

    Germanic (AD 700–1000) 49.0%

    Insular Celt (AD 100–1000) 35.6%

    France (AD 130–1400) 10.0%

    Armenian (AD 1030–1300) 5.4%

    ^ French/German genetics can be found in Southern England.

    However, I can simplify it this way :

    49.7% Frisii

    The Frisii were a Germanic people living in the coastal area stretching roughly from present-day Bremen to Bruges, including many of the smaller offshore islands.

    50.3% Cantiaci

    In 2021, a major archaeogenetics study uncovered a migration into southern Britain during the Bronze Age, over a 500 year period from 1300 BC to 800 BC. The migrants were genetically most similar to ancient individuals from France, and had higher levels of EEF ancestry. During 1000–875 BCE, their genetic marker swiftly spread through southern Britain, making up around half the ancestry of subsequent Iron Age people in this area, but not in northern Britain. The evidence suggests that, rather than a violent invasion or a single migratory event, the genetic structure of the population changed through sustained contacts between mainland Britain and Europe over several centuries, such as the movement of traders, intermarriage, and small scale movements of family groups. The authors describe this as a plausible vector for the spread of early Celtic languages into Britain.

  14. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    India had an Italian prime minister for a time. But she’d just married into the right family.

    Latin Americans appear to prefer non-Iberian leaders. They know that Iberians suck at governance. This has been true since the time of O’Higgins.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
  15. @Robert Dolan

    Where is the tragedy?

    The Guardian is quick to tell you:

    Disbelief and anger among Greek shipwreck victims’ relatives as millions spent on Titan rescue effort

    Note the slippery and deceptive headline. The shipwreck may have been Greek; the victims, decidedly not.

    • Replies: @Sick n' Tired
  16. Nat X says:

    Ole Derby, a limey, is married to a chicom slant.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
  17. Mr. XYZ says:
    @anonymous

    Not enough economies of scale.

  18. Mr. XYZ says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Latin Americans appear to prefer non-Iberian leaders. They know that Iberians suck at governance. This has been true since the time of O’Higgins.

    Peru even had a Japanese leader (Alberto Fujimori) and came extremely close to electing his also-Japanese daughter in 2021:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Peruvian_general_election

  19. martin_2 says:
    @Bragadocious

    the British Empire was a positive force in the world

    This statement is manifestly true.

    • Replies: @Alrenous
    , @Bragadocious
  20. Alrenous says: • Website

    So the politics of the British Isles has been pretty thoroughly Indiacized.

    Empire is a sin and the punishment is diversity. Same thing happened to Rome and Macedonia.

    Conquest is bad. If violence is the answer, then use genocide and ethnic cleansing. Don’t leave anyone alive to complain.

  21. Alrenous says: • Website
    @martin_2

    Except for Britain.

    Or any of the places stolen inherited by the American Empire.

  22. Erik1953 says:

    So emagine, you are a well payed profesional politician. And you have the task to replace the whole population by a certain African race… How could you ever discus this with the existing and doomed people of the origenal population..

  23. anonymous[254] • Disclaimer says:

    White population in US is apparently growing again. According to the Census Bureau the non-Hispanic white (alone) (as in reported “White” as their only entry in the race part) grew by 5,941,874 from 2020 to 2022.

    According to the American Community Survey, in 2022, the percentage of the US pop which is non-Hispanic white (alone) is 58.9%. https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/RHI825222#RHI825221

    The 2020 Census: 57.8%
    https://data.census.gov/table?q=p2&g=010XX00US&tid=DECENNIALPL2020.P2

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
  24. Mr. Derbyshire,

    Please I beg you to eschew the use of the word “cuck” in all its forms. Its only appropriate use is in criticism of its use. This word is the calling card of the man who cannot cope, has never been in the arena, never seen the elephant and is afraid of life.

    #10 @Reg Cæsar:

    Does Britain have an “official language” yet? That’s a big red flag– no healthy nation needs such a thing.

    Belgium has 3
    England has 1 (you could have loeked it up)
    Finnish has 2
    HongKong has 2
    Switzerland has 4

    Those damned Swiss!

  25. Nat X says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Nope Karma is a selective bitch and no amount of your incel ass whining can do anything about it.

  26. Jabber says:

    The Talk of the Town Trailer Estates Park Sociology Round Table opines as follows:

    Granny Yiddell (Chair) – The fawning of the Royals over this lot is surprising given their shabby treatment of Meghan Markle. Good Lord, she married that b%&(d prince. Who else would want that ginger nitwit?

    Mother (Strong Opinated Woman) – England is just weird. The Beatles were the world’s ugliest boy band and yet they convinced some many to become dope fiends.

    Jabber (Shut-in who lives with Mother) – England is pathetic. The average person lives poorly, yet they worship King Charles III. He looks like he smells the laundry basket for kicks. Remember his recorded conversation with that horse-faced “Queen” about him wishing to live in her knickers.

    Father O’Hair (Fake priest that we’d all love to actually have) – The English rejected the true church so their King could remarry – they lack character.

    Bozero (Latino clown) – Immigrants shouldn’t be welcomed. They take advantage. They should be treated badly in order to know their place in society.

    Fiona (Park fun lady) – I picture a party with Meghan, Harry, Hunter Biden, and me.

  27. Daniel H says:

    I’m of Irish descent, so I have to qualify and clarify.

    I hate the English. Hate them, with a rage and passion. And no, not because of their relationship with the Irish over the past several hundred years, far from that. In fact, if I were living in Ireland 120 years ago I would have been one of those not-too-few that counseled continued union with the Brits because the UK seemed like a decent horse to hitch our wagon to, so I have nothing against historical England and her magnificent achievements. No, I hate the English now because of what you mentioned, Derb: their fecklessness, preciousness, cuteness, insipidness, weakness, wokeness, cowardice, their eagerness to play the part of America’s little jerk, to ape every destructive social fad that has arisen in America over the past 80 years, their fatness, their rotten teeth, their bullshit economy, their besottedness to celebrity culture, their irreligiousness, their blasphemy, their stupid, gay accents, their homos, their trannies, their gay established church, their chads, their middle class, their royals. I even hate their rock and roll now. All of it. Those flippin’ faggots, I hate every one of them. I hate everything about the entire country, because they have rejected God and embraced enervation of the soul and, the worst of all, they pass this enervation onto their children, destroying any hope these children my have. In short, I hate them for being groomers of national depravity. I hate them. I really do.

    I won’t live to see it so I will close my eyes and just imagine the not too distant future when hordes of Pakistanis, Hindus, Iranians, West Africans, Arabs and Gypsys have the run of the place and of English women too. The English deserve it. This is what happens when you throw off God and embrace Moloch. The English chose this, damn them. I hate them.

    • Agree: Dumbo
  28. @Daniel H

    The tragedy is that, despite ample evidence of Britain’s mistakes, Ireland has chosen to follow the same path. In fact it is doing an even worse job than Britain, because its ruling classes have a particular fondness for Afghan, Sudanese, and Somali migrants, most of whom will never make a net positive contribution to Ireland’s economic or cultural life.

    • Agree: anonymouseperson
  29. Janner1 says:
    @Daniel H

    You sound like an American plastic paddy to me. Bow down before my splendid Anglo-Norman aristocratic self and kiss my feet you inferior genetic peasant :

  30. @Anonymous

    Notice the contemptuous way that Sad Khant snarled out the words ‘British Empire’ and ‘partition of India’.
    A real, deep, hatred and aggression seems to have been triggered by the mere mention of both?

    Before British rule, Bengal and Sindh were independent of the rest of India. When the British left, the old divisions resurfaced. A lot of British Pakistanis are well aware of the Indian subcontinent’s long history, but when it comes to political history they do not look any earlier than the British conquest. This gives them the opportunity to blame the British for every malady that afflicts their low-trust, tribal, inbred society.

    All I want to say to you is this. Look, I won the golden ticket, I won the lottery, because I was born in London. My grandparents were refugees. They left India to go into Pakistan when the British Empire decided to carve up India.

    Khan almost shows some insight here. He is the son of a bus driver, and it is unlikely that in India or Pakistan he would have risen to become Mayor of the capital city. He owes his career to Britain, and especially to the former British Empire. If he cannot completely hide his hatred of the British Empire, it is for reasons that are familiar around here: “after such knowledge, what forgiveness?”

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
  31. Mr. XYZ says:
    @anonymous

    Makes one wonder if the 2022 ACS is mistaken in regards to this. Of course, the 2030 US Census will shed some additional light on this question in several years’ time.

  32. • Replies: @Anonymous
  33. Mr. XYZ says:
    @James N. Kennett

    Before British rule, Bengal and Sindh were independent of the rest of India. When the British left, the old divisions resurfaced. A lot of British Pakistanis are well aware of the Indian subcontinent’s long history, but when it comes to political history they do not look any earlier than the British conquest. This gives them the opportunity to blame the British for every malady that afflicts their low-trust, tribal, inbred society.

    Bangladesh (the former East Bengal) actually functions somewhat better than Pakistan does. This is all relative, of course, when atheist bloggers are still routinely getting murdered in Bangladesh, but still, Bangladesh does have a bit less Islamic radicalism relative to Pakistan:

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/map-death-for-apostasy/

  34. Mr. XYZ says:
    @Nat X

    His Chinese wife actually supports the Chinese government?

  35. @Nat X

    Despite numerous enquiries, to this day no one really knows what prompted Dr. Germ Theory to spend so much of his career attempting to communicate with and reason with the monkeys, who after all only ever responded by flinging poo and muttering something cryptic about “where de white wimminz beez at.” He succeeded at times in getting some of the monkeys to repeat complex words like “selective”, though it is unclear whether they understood the meaning of the words, or were merely repeating the sounds phonetically, like a parrot or a magpie.

    What is known is that eventually Dr. Germ Theory came to realize the futility of his efforts, and retired to his estate on Oahu to conduct a lucrative private practice. To this day he declines to further discuss his research in this area, or that phase of his career.

    • LOL: Dumbo
    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    , @Dave Bowman
  36. The Kaiser and Hitler have the last laugh on the stupid British.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
  37. @martin_2

    If that were true, Britain would have friends in the world. Strong, enduring friends. And yet Britain has none. Instead, it created a world where ex-colonials go to Britain to vengefully suck it dry, and harm native white Brits. This is what they’re doing, and will continue to do.

    So sad that fat loudmouth Wallace won’t head up NATO. The French blocked him, and so did Biden. Like I said, no friends.

  38. Mr. XYZ says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    You reminded me of this Family Guy clip lol:


    Video Link

  39. Mr. XYZ says:
    @anonymouseperson

    The interesting thing is that the Kaiser was actually talking about gassing Jews en masse back in 1919, over two decades before Hitler actually began the Holocaust.

  40. Renard says:
    @Robert Dolan

    The tragedy is that it was just one boat.

  41. • Thanks: HammerJack
    • Replies: @Mike Conrad
  42. Gro

  43. Old man says:

    We import into Australia a lot of the sillier ideas of the US and UK. But uniquely, we don’t have open borders and both major parties understand it would be political suicide to go that way. We have a large legal immigration program, which is not sufficiently debated. It creates winners and losers, the winners mainly being the migrants themselves and the top (say) ten percent economically of the locals.

    Illegal immigrants (typically in boats) cannot stay. Even if they are found to be bona fide “refugees”, they get sent to whatever third party country Australia has a deal with at the time. Maybe Cambodia, maybe Nauru, it’s not designed to be attractive. And we try to intercept and tow back boats before arrival where possible. SO the illegal people smugglers are pretty much out of business now. I cannot understand why the UK doesn’t replicate this policy. It would be politically very attractive, and go some way to restore average people’s belief that the system is fair. But the UK and US appear to have a political and administrative class even more frivolous than ours. THat can’t end well.

  44. Anonymous[677] • Disclaimer says:
    @Priss Factor

    Why are hapa females always so attractive??

  45. The French are strange.

    During the Revolution, they got rid of the king to live under an emperor.

    After WWII, they got rid of the empire to turn into a colony.

  46. @Reg Cæsar

    Which group was more likely to pay back the recovery costs if they were rescued alive, a couple of guys worth billions of dollars, or hundreds of poor, illiterate, illegal invaders coming to soak up welfare dollars and benefits?

  47. Lurker says:
    @Bragadocious

    I’m glad to hear you’re beginning to think.

    • Replies: @Bragadocious
  48. unzrocks says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    That’s what happens when your country’s elite ruling class travelled all over the world to create an empire based off overseas colonies. The chickens eventually come home to roost. Notice all the Western European countries that created empires overseas for centuries (England, France, Netherlands, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Germany) all end up with millions of immigrants and migrants (legal and illegal from the colonies) in their countries. Whereas the Central European and Eastern European countries (who never had overseas colonies anywhere) are mostly still a homogenous Slavic population with little to no immigrants and diversity. Like I said, instant karma. If you wanted a homogenous population, you should have stayed home all those centuries ago. The price you pay for colonizing and conquering the entire planet. Empire building isn’t worth the price of admission. It’s better to stay home and trade peacefully with everyone instead of conquering through military means. Then all your troubles / problems wouldn’t exist.

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    , @martin_2
  49. @Lurker

    Puts me one step ahead of you then.

  50. janner1 says:
    @unzrocks

    “That’s what happens when your country’s elite ruling class travelled all over the world to create an empire based off overseas colonies… If you wanted a homogenous population, you should have stayed home all those centuries ago…”

    You sound like an idiot since the area today known as Great Britain hasn’t been homogeneous since Upper Paleothic times. Ireland was largely homogeneous and half the racial condition there was of upper paleolithic prognathous cavemen inbred subhumans. How many geniuses came from there e.g. the extremely inbred area of the Aaron Islands ?

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  51. martin_2 says:
    @unzrocks

    Bullshit. Japan and Turkey had great empires. No-one is asking them to accept millions of immigrants from their former colonies. Norway and Ireland never had any empire, but they are expected to take in millions of immigrants. Therefore having an empire in the past is neither a necessary condition nor a sufficient condition for being expected to take in millions of immigrants. It is WHITE countries with spineless leaders that take them in.

    • Agree: Renard, Achmed E. Newman
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  52. unzrocks says:
    @janner1

    Homogeneous being that they are white Anglo Saxon people who migrated there from Western Europe / Northen Europe you idiot prick. Were there any black Africans or brown Muslim Arabs or yellow Asians / Orientals or Indians and Pakistans and Bangladesh? Don’t. Think so. So who’s the idiot now morons?

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  53. unzrocks says:
    @martin_2

    Turkey has millions of immigrants / migrants from the Middle East, etc. They are taking the brunt / most of the migrants and their blue chip as being part of the EU is that Turkey could open up their borders and flood Europe with millions of migrants that have settled in Turkey. The EU is practically paying Turkey billions of dollars a year to hold millions of migrants in Turkey.

    As for Japan, they only had a brief period of around 50 years of colonization and conquest (mostly in Korea and China). They didn’t last long.

    Ireland is part of the EU so they have to kiss ass to the major powerhouses of the EU bloc and must agree to take in a ton of migrants.

    Norway is not officially a member of the EU but they do participate in very close trade with all the EU members and can easily be bribed or influenced by the bigger, stronger countries like the UK, France, and Germany. In other words, Norway is a follower and not much a leader. They kiss the EU butt.

  54. janner1 says:
    @unzrocks

    Who the fuck is Anglo-Saxon ? Americans ? Modern English people are just English albeit we tend to have higher amounts of Germanic admixture, on average, compared to the Welsh and Scots. Anglo-Saxons were north Germanic but modern English people we are West Germanic. Iceland is to the north Germanics what England is to the West Germanics.

    I would say modern English people we are cut from the same clothe as the Dutch rather than Denmark/Northern Germany and most Dutch people don’t look straight out of Frisia just like most English people don’t.

    No one speaks Olde English anymore and it has been that way since the time of Chaucer . Upper class Englishmen don’t care if lower genetic peasant caste Brits get over run etc.. by Pakis and there are about 7 or 8 modern genetic ‘white’ native tribes in the UK : that is not homogeneous you retard.

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  55. MEH 0910 says:

    https://vdare.com/radio-derb/will-biden-run-titanic-story-refugee-week-juneteenth-and-black-and-white-fathers-compared-etc

    https://www.johnderbyshire.com/Opinions/RadioDerb/2023-06-23.html

  56. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Dr Theory,

    As you work against the clock to complete your latest thesis, allow me please to offer you one further, hopefully useful, slice of home-grown wisdom, which was once gifted to me by a clever and perceptive friend I offer it to you for moral support in the context of this late retarded verbal attack by your sub-normal interlocutor:

    “If you stop to kick every mange-ridden dog which barks at you, you’ll never reach home by sundown”.

    You’re welcome.

  57. @Daniel H

    That’s good…! “groomers of national depravity” is good !! Did you have to think for a long time to dredge that one up ?

    But as for you personally, you sound like a pathetic, childish, embarrassingly-naive, painfully-stupid teenage Guinness addict who’s never got over the Black-and-Tan horror stories which his half-demented grandmother used to tell him at bedtime. (By the way, in case you’re not aware, the historical record you’ve never consulted will confirm to you that the “English” B & T Regiment was statistically overwhelmingly composed of SCOTTISH drunks, degenerates and thugs).

    Before you bother to lecture me again about matters of English history and its many critical mistakes over which NO Englishman ever had any say, next time you’re in Dublin go and ask your fellow-Irishmen why they don’t do something about the crowds of benefit-spongeing wogs and sand-niggers who spend their time looking for Irish virgin girls on O’Connell Street ? Why don’t you and your Irish friends make clear to them in multiple languages all formatted with extreme violence that it’s now high time for them to just fuck off back to the dark-ages shitholes in Africa and the middle east which they came from ? Better still, ask if all the immature, prejudiced England-haters like you can fuck off with them.

  58. …As Bad As Ours…

    Ours?

    you’re NOT an american drrrb!

    you’re a shitholer…from a country that arrests people for saying “nigger”… and that has a head of government who shits in the street.

    you apparently suck at math despite a degree in math from a top 10 shithole university.

    you didn’t just fuck but married! a chinawoman.

    you’re like cucker carlson claiming to be swedish…he has not a drop.

  59. unzrocks says:
    @janner1

    Do a google search, no sense in me wasting time arguing with such stupid people on UNZ. That’s why this is the last message I’m going to send out, then I’m going to disappear from this website altogether since I’m done wasting time discussing things with such moronic, stupid people with no brains or logic whatsoever on this website.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Saxons

    So what if there are a bunch of different tribes? That does not make a population non-homogenous. Homogenous means they are of the same or similar race / ethnicity, similar culture, and are practically neighbors. But they can be of different tribes, etc. Look at Genghis Khan when he united 11 tribes together in Mongolia and began his empire building. Look at the native indigenous Indians of the America before the European conquest. These Indians are of numerous tribes altogether as well.

  60. anon[109] • Disclaimer says:

    Britain is a dystopia, part Clockwork Orange, part Airstrip One

    So hard to believe a successful empire could collapse so quickly not by invasion or disease. but by suicide

  61. “… most ordinary Britons would trace Britain’s origins to Hengist and Horsa [449 AD] if not before.”

    Interesting factoid regarding this: Thomas Jefferson apparently wanted Hengist and Horsa on the USA’s Great Seal.

    https://www.tjheritage.org/design-the-great-seal

    https://www.monticello.org/research-education/thomas-jefferson-encyclopedia/seal-united-states/

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