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[Excerpted from the latest Radio Derb, now available exclusively through]

Earlier, by Steve Sailer: What If Wokeness Is A Russian Conspiracy To Ruin America?

I’m starting to be irritated by the word “Wokeness,” I’m not sure why. When “Woke” and “Wokeness” first came up, I thought they were sort of cute.

Since the 1980s, if not earlier, we had been using the cumbersome phrase “Politically Correct” to describe the idiocies of linguistic puritanism about race and sex. “Woke” was a big improvement: it replaced a two-word seven-syllable adjectival phrase with a concise one-syllable adjective. What’s not to like?

The derivative terms—”Wokeness,” “the Wokerati,” “the Great Awokening,” et cetera were likewise cute and handy. My favorite derivative is “Wokefishing.” That’s when cynical young males pretend to be Woke in order to lure Woke young women into sexual engagement. I suspect my 26-year-old son of having practiced Wokefishing, but he denies it.

It’s also been satisfying to know that we stole the word “Woke” from antiwhite Progressives. So says Wikipedia, anyway. Quote from it, referring to the phrase “stay Woke”:

Following the shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri in 2014, the phrase was popularized by Black Lives Matter (BLM) activists seeking to raise awareness about police shootings of African Americans [Accessed January 21, 2022]

You can’t get much more Woke than Wikipedia, so I’m going to trust it on the origins of the word

Even with all that going for it, though, I can’t escape the feeling that the words “Woke” and “Wokeness” have worn out their welcome. Wokeness—Wokeness the thing—is a very serious matter. It’s poisoning our culture and destroying our educational system. Yet it sounds kind of frivolous. I dunno, I just wish we had something with a bit more…weight.

I’ve tried coining replacement words, but haven’t come up with anything that works. In Nineteen Eighty-Four Orwell called the state ideology “IngSoc,” presumably short for “English Socialism.” Along those lines I thought of “AuthProg” for our state ideology, short for “Authoritarian Progressivism.” Not bad; but I can’t get a one-syllable adjective out of it.

Research continues.

After all that commentary on the word, here are three points on the thing suggested by recent news items.

  • First point about Wokeness: It really is killing academe.

I have to confess I am not closely engaged with Jordan Peterson. That’s a bit embarrassing for me because I get regular emails from Radio Derb listeners who are thus engaged, and who urge me to watch this or that YouTube clip of Peterson talking about something or other.

Plainly those listeners think that Peterson and I are on the same page somehow. Well, to a degree we are. We both detest, loathe, and deplore Wokeness. We both think it’s all a lie, and a huge social and cultural negative.

So far so good; but while I nod along in agreement with much of what Peterson says, we differ on a key point of psychology. Peterson believes in what 19th-century scholar Adolf Bastian called “the psychic unity of mankind.” I don’t; I think that observed differences in social outcomes between races and sexes arise from innate biological differences.

Since Peterson is a trained academic psychologist and I’m not, I guess this is naively presumptuous of me; but there you are.

All that aside, I applaud and admire Peterson as a fearless warrior against Wokeness. I have been applauding and admiring all the more this week because on Thursday, in Canada’s National Post newspaper, he fired off a splendid broadside against the “appalling ideology currently demolishing the universities and, downstream, the general culture” [ Jordan Peterson: Why I am no longer a tenured professor at the University of Toronto, January 19, 2022 ]

Peterson, he tells us, has recently, at the age of 59, retired from his position as full tenured professor at the University of Toronto. What has driven him out is the university’s obsession with DIE. That’s D-I-E, Peterson’s (and Steve Sailer’s) preferred ordering of the Woke Holy Trinity: Diversity, Inclusion, and Equity.

DIE, says Peterson in the National Post Op-Ed, means that

(a) “qualified and supremely trained heterosexual white male graduate students” stand no chance of getting research positions in the university, while

(b) there aren’t enough qualified BIPOC people—that’s black, indigenous and people of color—to meet the diversity targets, so the research positions go to people not qualified for them

Peterson’s summary:

That, combined with the death of objective testing, has compromised the universities so badly that it can hardly be overstated. And what happens in the universities eventually colors everything. As we have discovered.

Peterson cites a gem of a comment—quite a long one, over three hundred words—by Vladimir Putin, pouring scorn on Social Justice dogma and comparing it with Bolshevism:

It may come as a surprise to some people, but Russia has been there already … The destruction of age-old values, religion, and relations between people, up to and including the total rejection of family (we had that, too), encouragement to inform on loved ones—all this was proclaimed progress … By the way, the Bolsheviks were absolutely intolerant of opinions other than theirs. [ Russia’s New ‘Conservative’ Ideology To Counter Liberalism,, January 11, 2022]

Commentators in mainland China sometimes express similar thoughts, with Mao Tse-tung’s Cultural Revolution in place of Lenin’s Bolshevism. You may have heard about the Chinese expression báizuŏ, “the White Left,” used scornfully to refer to white Wokesters in the West striving to destroy age-old values, religion, et cetera—the same things that Putin spoke of. Because Mao is officially still revered in China, you don’t hear mockery of the báizuŏ from senior political figures, but there’s plenty of it on the internet, uncensored.


If Jordan Peterson were to grasp the nettles of race and sex realism, I would become a devoted Peterson disciple. Until then, I’ll admire him from a small distance, read more of what he has to say, and try to pay attention all the way through one of his videos or podcasts.

  • Second point about Wokeness: It’s killing creativity.

There’s a steady trickle of stories about this, if you go looking for them. A big landmark one was the January 11th article at Bari Weiss’s Substack, cross-posted the same day at the London Daily Mail website.

The article is by two Los Angeles journalists (Peter Kiefer and Peter Savodnik) who specialize in covering showbiz, especially Hollywood of course. Hollywood’s New Rules is the headline on Bari Weiss’s Substack. The Daily Mail version is wordier, in the way those damn Brits have: Hollywood Will Barely Dare Whisper It But The Woke Revolution That Has Driven Out White Men And Ensures That Every Production Is Ideologically Sound Will Kill The Entertainment Industry.

The message here: the people who make movies and TV shows—”movies” of course including productions for streaming services like Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, etc.—live and work in a state of fear that they aren’t Woke enough.

That’s just speaking of people who actually have jobs in showbiz production. Straight white men increasingly don’t. CBS has mandated that writers’ rooms, where the scripts for shows are produced, be at least forty percent BIPOC for the current broadcast season, and fifty percent for the next season, 2022-2023. Once again: BIPOC means black, indigenous and people of color.

A longtime showbiz veteran is quoted as saying that “every studio has something like that.”

As always when rigid ideological conformity is enforced, creativity is stifled. Longish quote from another anonymous person, identified only as “writer and producer”:

Maybe it’s 15 percent about the belief that it will bring more people into viewing content, and 85 percent about the fear of being attacked on social media or in places like the Hollywood press or The New York Times. You’ve got to be insane not to have at the forefront of your mind all of these racial and gender and trans issues when you’re writing something. You have to worry about the impact that everything you do will have on your career. And that has an obvious chilling effect on creativity.

A side effect of all this politicization: successful movies and shows of the past are now being memory-holed: Blazing Saddles, for example, notwithstanding it was co-written by Richard Pryor. Also the original Rocky, because the bad guy cannot be black, and the Dustin Hoffman movie Tootsie, where he fakes being a woman to get acting jobs.

All in the Family? Fuhgeddaboutit. A producer explained to the journalists that Archie Bunker “is basically a Trump voter.” Well, that won’t do!

So if you’re wondering why shows nowadays are preachy, dull, and unfunny … It’s the Wokeness.

  • A third point on Wokeness: IT’S BORING!

Once Wokeness has taken over some field of endeavor, it drains all the interest from that field.

If you read my monthly diaries here at, you know that I’m given to bellyaching about this in regard to math. It’s getting to be more than I can bear.

The MAA, for example. That’s the Mathematical Association of America. I’ve been a member of the MAA for thirty years and I get their periodicals: the Monthly, the College Math Journal, and their newsmagazine, which is called Focus.

Focus used to be fun and informative. They once published an article by me! Nowadays it’s deeply Woke: not quite cover to cover, but heading that way. Of the five main articles in the current issue, here are three:

The first item there celebrates the life of a black female mathematician who passed away in August last year at age 82. I’m sure she was a nice lady and I hope she rests in peace; but as a mathematician, with all due respect, she seems not to have been distinguished. Her Ph.D., awarded in 1970, was in Mathematics Education.

She was, the obituary tells us “committed to working at historically black colleges and universities.” We are further told that she “was dedicated to improving mathematics opportunities for the disenfranchised.” Also that she was “an equity champion for all.”

All worthy enough, I guess, though I don’t know what the word “disenfranchised” is doing there. What, there were aspiring mathematicians who couldn’t vote in the 1970s? Name one.

And math Ph.D.s must die at an actuarially steady clip, year after year. Would this one have been honored with a seven-page obituary in the newsletter of the MAA if she had been a white male of identical mathematical accomplishment?

I’m just asking.

The second item, “Building Community in the Classroom,” is about the subject which the late Dr. Knight got her Ph.D. in: math education. The author is a white lady named Erica Winterer, currently a doctoral student in STEM education. She gives an account of her experiences as a student and teacher. The piece isn’t objectionable but it’s awful dull; and Ms. Winter is the last person on earth to still believe in the reality of “stereotype threat.”

The third item, “Critical Reflections on Equitable Mathematics Education,” is even duller, and all written in Woke jargon: “problematic deficit perspectives that othered students of color,” and so on … and on, and problematically on.

Reading this issue of Focus, in fact, I was starting to feel quite othered myself. These pages and pages of Wokery must be for someone, I guess, but they’re not for me. I’m not interested in problematic deficit perspectives; I’m interested in math.

The American Mathematical Monthly is still about actual math : “Inellipses of Convex Polygons”—yeah! “An Alternating Analogue of Euler’s Constant“—wow! “A New Approach to the Katětov-Tong Theorem” — er, okay, I never actually heard of that theorem, but I’ll take a look. Where the names of theorems are concerned, my favorite is still the Bump-Ng Theorem, stated in 1986 by two mathematicians with surnames Bump and Ng.


So that’s all good, but the poison is seeping in. At the end of the current MAA Monthly there is, as usual, a book review. Title of book under review: Inventing the Mathematician: Gender, Race, and Our Cultural Understanding of Mathematics. Author: Sara Hottinger, a white lady. Executive summary: Math is just a social construct. Hey, what isn’t?

The author, reviewer Benjamin Braun tells us “writes using language from critical theory and interdisciplinary feminist studies.” He thinks she might have been more colloquial.

That mild quibble aside, our reviewer is on board with the author’s approach:

Mathematicians must become generally more informed about the impact of race and gender in mathematics, and also must learn a better and more clear language for talking about complicated social issues.

I can hear math geeks from coast to coast groaning wearily: “Oh, must we? Can’t we just do math?”

John Derbyshire [email him] writes an incredible amount on all sorts of subjects for all kinds of outlets. (This no longer includes National Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him.) He is the author of We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism and several other books. He has had two books published by com: FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT (also available in Kindle) and FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT II: ESSAYS 2013.

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  1. Jordan Peterson says some of the forbidden truth, but (wisely?) refrains from telling the whole truth

    If Jordan Peterson were to grasp the nettles of race and sex realism, I would become a devoted Peterson disciple. Until then, I’ll admire him from a small distance

    We propose a with total
    We need to return to old virtues of scientific honesty and trustworthyness, to replace sleepy lying deceptive “wokeness”. Only when based on facts can we find good solutions to pressing problems. That includes social justice (is it just to give to the less capacitated and less hard working?)

  2. my favorite is still the Bump-Ng Theorem

    They should have sought out a partner named Rhind. Bump-Ng-Rhind Theorem, let it entertain you.

    Wokeness—Wokeness the thing—is a very serious matter. It’s poisoning our culture and destroying our educational system. Yet it sounds kind of frivolous. I dunno, I just wish we had something with a bit more…weight.

    Remember acid rock? How about acid woke?

    That suggests what it does to our body politic, and might even inspire some to develop an antidote.

    The piece isn’t objectionable but it’s awful dull; and Ms. Winter is the last person on earth to still believe in the reality of “stereotype threat.”

    You’ve got to be insane not to have at the forefront of your mind all of these racial and gender and trans issues when you’re writing something.

    The problem with “stereotype threat” analysis is that it’s applied to the wrong subjects. It seems to be alive and well among young white men, and white women of any age. If the chilling effect is from fear or shame, that’s one thing. If it’s from guilt, then it’s stereotype threat.

    Sara Hottinger

    Could be “Sarah Ottinger”. Remember”>Dick Ottinger, who lost to Jim Buckley 51 (!) years ago? They’re both still alive! At 92 and 98, respectively. (The third candidate in that race, Charles Goodell, died in 1987, but his son lords it over the NFL today.) Ottinger’s only daughter is Jenny, but he’s Jewish, so there must be a Sarah somewhere.

    • Replies: @Forbes
  3. Can the Bump-Ng Theorem be applied to the Cox-Zucker Machine?

  4. If you compare the west today with Mao’s China, what year of the cultural revolution are we in?

    Or more generally, are we closer to the end or closer to beginning? I would love to believe the former, but I fear the latter may be true.

    It’s also interesting to think about the former communist bloc. Derbyshire complains (rightly!) about the pages and pages of wokery you have to sift through nowadays, but just imagine how much complete garbage was produced in the Soviet Union over the decades. What became of it all? Was it simply dumped overnight? And what became of the people who, right up till the end, were producing it? Did they simply wipe their brows in relief and tell themselves, “oh well, no need for any more of that garbage, thank God”? If so, it gives me hope that the end of woke tyranny will be no more difficult than waking up from a bad dream.

  5. Renoman says:

    Silly Women and iffy Men spouting forth about something no on wants to hear about. We don’t care and want them to grow up and smarten up.

  6. The Woke are like Zombies. Stupid, ugly and aggressive. The difference is Zombies are not indoctrinated. We need a comedy Zombie movie wherein Zombies are able to speak but only to repeat woke dogma. Diversity is our strength. Love wins. Black Lives Matter. Orange Man bad.

  7. Anon[408] • Disclaimer says:

    The DIE training that’s in place throughout corporate America these days is a sight to behold. DIE training is a subject for many UR articles.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    (wisely?) refrains from thelling the whole truth

    Peterson is a race realist when it comes to IQ though. – See his talk on unherdTV with Doulgas Murray – who then is still a bit hesitant aubout the – brutality, as he soemhow puts it – of this isnight. Peterson tells him: If yo don’t accept this truth (= IQ differences between – races (and yep, Jews are counted in by Peterson here too), you make existing tensions/conflicts worse, not better.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
  9. Chinese expression báizuŏ, “the White Left,” used scornfully to refer to white Wokesters

    The expression báizuo was coined to make fun of German chancellor Angela Merkel in the migration cirisis 2015 – that’ how I remember it – and darkwiki has anarticle about it online that says so too.

  10. Wokeness a) is killing creativity – b) it’s boring

    a = b

    Btw. – Jordan Peterson pointd out early on that the success of wokism is supported by it’s innate outright dumbness! – Another parallel to the Communist Ideology. – The communist part of Germany was officially called DDR and people fled in droves from it as long as it was possible – and not least the brighter ones – because life there was so dull.

    A quite popular pun therfore was to not spell out DDR as Deutsche Demokratische Republic but rather as: Der Doofe Rest = The Dumb Leftover!

    (It’s said that even the turtles did hurry to escape! – Or was ist the tortoises? – I’d rush on with the latter here, hehe!)

  11. @Dieter Kief

    Dieter, Dieter, Dieter. I write the following knowing it’s not going to make a lick of difference, but I feel compelled to say something.

    When I have brought it up with you in the past, you’ve explained your rather unique punctuation style as an attempt to make your posts read more like the spoken word. I wasn’t convinced by that explanation, but I decided to drop the matter.

    Well, having had to just now labor through three posts of yours in a row, I think someone needs to tell you: your posts don’t read anything like the spoken word.

    The sad thing is you’re not an idiot. You usually make a good point. You just make it unnecessarily difficult for a reader to understand that point.

  12. The term of art to describe those so afflicted is “Wokel”.

    I know this because I believe I first used it.

    • LOL: James of Africa
    • Replies: @jamie b.
  13. @silviosilver

    Thanks for mellowing out a bit, silviosilver. I’ve -today – thought about this subject before I read your post. And did indeed drop two dashes in a comment on the site of the German daily Die weLT. – Oh: Die weLT is not my spelleing, it is their spelling.
    Did you read some Tom Wolfe – – ??? – – – !!!!! – I must admit, that I like that. The graphic element too!

    Thanks for reading – and commenting!

  14. History is largely the tale of every new generation’s overreaction to the customs of the previous generation. “Woke” has no legs and will not long endure. Universities and other organizations are making a good faith effort to conform, the same way they once excluded women and blacks when such discrimination was fashionable. Ultimately the demands of their donors and customers will prevail, and priorities will shift, and shift again.

    Special interests of course take full advantage meanwhile and sow discord wherever they can. Divide and conquer is always a most useful tool of tyranny. Wokeism suits them as it deflects attention from far more dangerous, institutionalized abuses of power. The false moral purity of cancel culture can be used to silence those who would expose their propaganda and corruption. Campaigns of moral absolutism widen the gap between liberal elites and the white working class, because such division is crucial to maintaining the power of the elites. Boutique activism converts ordinary people into partners in advancing those interests, in a dangerous form of psychologically manipulative narrative control.

    It takes a while to assimilate the novel reality that so much of what our predecessors cherished – democracy, theism, capitalism, racism, sexism (and, alas, equality) – now fail to give us the stable society they appeared to confer on our parents and grandparents. Desperately clinging to decrepit ideologies is the mirror image of wokeness and only makes needful transition longer and more painful than it needs to be.

  15. wokeness isn’t another wacky fad, it’s the latest iteration of Noseberg’s anti-White, anti-Christian propaganda which has poisoned academia (now at all levels) for 60+ years.

    • Agree: inspector general
  16. macilrae says:

    The nightmare today is if you happen to be critically ill, with an unusually perplexing set of symptoms, and find yourself in the care of a black doctor.

    Or, God help us, if you are on trial for your livelihood (or your life) and are assigned a black judge.

    • Replies: @jamie b.
  17. The man is correct. Mr Putin is correct:
    He has no problem with “Wokeness” because he is “bereft” of Niggers.

  18. I study Wokeology with my mafmatishun neighbor Jamal Shaquille who lives in a section eight house down the street. You’ll find us every Monday after work at Main Street Coffee discussing complex perplexeafacations pertaining to black sages that once lived in gold plated castles with twenty wives and gave the world knowledge of everything. They were the first rap prophets that documented how to count with your fingers and toes. They were known as Wokekandians, the first star fairing intelligent beings who breed with monkeys at the dawn of time.
    Today we are blessed to have descendants of Wokekandians living among us.

  19. Vlad Putin has been around the block. He is correct in comparing these woke people to the Bolsheviks, but the Cultural Revolutionists of Red China were the same sort. We need to understand, people, that it doesn’t matter that these modern wokeists never heard of the proletariat, the bourgeoisie*, and the class struggle. That’s not the point! They are Communists.

    These people hate traditional society and values just the same as the Bolsheviks and Mao’s little Red Guards did. No, they don’t wear coats and ties or berets or rice-bowl haircuts, instead going for purple hair, tattoos, and goatees. These are the same people! They could have been reincarnated a century later and one wouldn’t know the difference except for the clothing and hair styles. These are the same people!

    None dare call them Commies. … besides Peak Stupidity and a few VDare writers.


    * Damn! Spell check won’t even help me with the spelling on that one – had to spend 3 minutes on duckduckgo.

  20. @silviosilver

    Give him a break, Silvio, he’s German, for crying out loud! That’s how they write there… I think..

    I hope that helped, Dieter. ;-}

    We always appreciate your literature- and poetry-, and music-based commentary, othered-punctuation or not, Mr. Kief, at Peak Stupidity AND here. ¡Punctuation is a social construct anyway!

    • LOL: Dieter Kief
  21. @silviosilver

    I’m not so much worried about the time these Commie academics have been wasting on this stupidity. It’s the culture and history that they destroy that’s the problem. Who knows what was lost forever in the old Soviet Bloc, but especially Russia itself, seeing as they had to endure 7 decades of this?

    For Renoman, no, we don’t want to hear about it, and for now, we don’t have to hear about it. (Take your TV to the outdoor range, and put it out of its misery, as a good start.) However, we’re still paying for this. If the University Bubble doesn’t pop soon on its own, due to the financial stupidity, we need to cut the freaking cord! Cut off the money supply.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
  22. Mr. Ed says:

    Too bad that Mr. Derbyshire is afraid to criticize Asians or ((those people)).

    • Replies: @inspector general
  23. jamie b. says:
    @Bill Jones

    I like it. Wonder what a ‘toothless wokel’ would be. Are most meth addicts woke?

  24. jamie b. says:

    and find yourself in the care of a black doctor.

    The doctor doesn’t need to be black to be worrisome. The counter-enlightenment is cancer for entire fields that require competence and objectivity…

  25. @Dieter Kief

    Did you read some Tom Wolfe

    Hah, have I read Tom Wolfe. Are you kidding? Tom Wolfe is my favorite author. I have read his novels several times each. You, pal, are no Tom Wolfe.

    Okay, now that I’ve made myself sound like a complete asshole, Dieter, if you enjoy your gimmicky punctuation, you go right ahead and knock yourself out. Pay no heed to naysayers like me.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  26. jamie b. says:

    I’ve no trouble reading him.

  27. @Achmed E. Newman

    I’m not “worried” about the time they wasted. I just find interesting – and perhaps instructive – to imagine how they went from, one minute, taking it all deadly seriously, and then then next minute, poof, all forgotten. I’m trying to think how it might take place in the west if all this wokism were somehow widely discredited and adjudged nonsense. Would there still be wokesters around desperately trying to keep it relevant? Or would people be busily scrubbing their social media accounts clean, desperately attempting to erase any trace of ever having believed it?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  28. Putin is right! And yes, White and Asian males dominate mathematics not because of “racism” (which doesn’t exist in that field) but because they are biologically better at it.

  29. @silviosilver

    Would there still be wokesters around desperately trying to keep it relevant?

    I would hope if this can be reversed they will be too busy working at real jobs, or better yet, scrounging out of garbage cans, to try to keep anything relevant. Without funding, there is none of this.

    Or would people be busily scrubbing their social media accounts clean, desperately attempting to erase any trace of ever having believed it?

    I don’t know whether it would come to that kind of a backlash. It’d be fine if we could just get them moved somewhere to never be heard from again (revive the State Hospitals, perhaps?), or even if they’d just leave us alone when we try to get away from them.

    With your example, Silvio, I would imagine since the end of the Cold War a Russian could still write about the glories of Communism, as much as he wanted. It’s just that there are too many people there that have seen too much to take any of it seriously. That’s not the case here.

    • Replies: @Undocumented Shopper
  30. @silviosilver

    If so, it gives me hope that the end of woke tyranny will be no more difficult than waking up from a bad dream.

    That assumes that there will be an end of woke tyranny.

    In my opinion, woke tyranny is only beginning.
    Whites are being conditioned to accept massive African immigration.
    That’s the plan.

  31. R.C. says:

    Get woke; go broke.
    Don’t be mistaken, instead, awaken!

  32. @Achmed E. Newman

    With your example, Silvio, I would imagine since the end of the Cold War a Russian could still write about the glories of Communism, as much as he wanted.

    There is another big difference.

    In Russia, there was ideological replacement by Bolsheviks, but no demographic replacement.
    When the Bolshevik ideology was abandoned, the population was not very different from what it was before 1917.

    But in the United States the population has already changed.
    On top of that you have BLM inspired advertising which makes it look like we live in a majority black country.
    Like I said elsewhere, Whites are being conditioned to accept massive African immigration.
    After demographic replacement, wokesters will have plenty of support for their writings about glories of Africa.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  33. Freaks like this deign to lecture us on knowledge and ‘science’.

    The experts.

  34. @silviosilver

    Gimmicky punctuation sounds a lot like the peace***-pipe. Howgh!
    ***piece-pipe to…huhuu.

    – Was Tom Wolfe gimmicky? I mean punctuationwise? Or do you go here with the classical Romans who said that there’d be an unsurmoutable difference between Jupiter and the ox – and rightfully so, meaning that Jupiter can do things that are off limits for the ox?!

    I’m fairly middle of the road here, if look at – huge, and influential and very insightful writers like James Joyce, Johann Paul Friedrich Richter (= Jean Paul), Ernst Jandl, Arno Schmidt ( a punctuation and spelling EXTREMIST****), Thomas Lehr, Friederike Mayröcker, not to mention – öh – now I’m runnign out of steam, hehe – Andreas Gryphius (one of the foremost geniusses of German poetry – ever!!! – – but / look at his // spelling and interpunctuation: absolutely/// indio/syncratical), Heinrich Seuse – now I’m on track again – – – Johann Fischart, Jakob Boehme and Francois Rabelais et. al. – – – – – — – – – – – – – Tom Wolfe – – – hehe: Full circle!

    *****IQ in the 99, 99+ percentile. Jean Paul – 101st percentile (Schmidt was a very melancholical, often openly aggresive black-gall humorist; Jean Paul was a wholeheartedly warm and utterly over the toppest of over the top humorists (one of the handful of German great contemporary thinkers, who has as of now published some 50 books and has at least 5000 p. of manuscripts that have not yet been taken care of printwise, because his publishers (and the readers…) just can’t keep up with the speed of his writing – this man of deep insights by the name of Peter Sloterdijk, who happens to write sentences that are at times almost half as long as those Jean Paul used to master – ok: Peter Sloterdijk said about Jean Paul: He would have been a man of much geater influence, if he hadn’t mastered so many fields. – He left a bit too many of his contemporaries ff. speech- and clueless – a bit intimidated, baffeld… – in a way he was too much. Goethe’s friend Schiller (both men had quite some personal experiencs with Jean Paul) once famously remarked, Jean Paul occurs to him as if he’d have fallen out of the moon.
    I’ve just listend to a few of Bach’s cembalo-pieces, -öh, 21 one of them, since Achmed E. Newman mentions la musica – and I’d hold that the founding cognitive structure of a lot of Jean Paul’s best pieces and Bach’s music is very much alike (they both stem by and large from the same tribe…biologically and mentally and sociologically too (East German protestantism)).

    Have you a favorite Tom Wolfe book? – I think I like Kingdom of Speech and Back to Blood best. Also The Right Stuff!

    • Replies: @silviosilver
  35. Putin may be right about ‘wokeness’ but he won’t name the source: Jewish Supremacist Power.

    After all, ‘wokeness’ is strangely silent about Zionist ‘genocide’ of Palestinians and Jewish suppression of BDS or Justice for Palestinians. So much for equity and inclusion.

    • Replies: @silviosilver

    The least hard working, the oiligarch parasites, have ever more of the common wealth. Are you happy with that? Why pick on those who refuse to ‘work hard’ for a pittance?

  37. @Dieter Kief

    Have you a favorite Tom Wolfe book? – I think I like Kingdom of Speech and Back to Blood best.

    Dieter, you are too much! Your two favorites are my two least liked works. The Kingdom of Speech was a somewhat interesting book, though I felt like Wolfe was trying a bit too hard and the old magic wasn’t quite working for him. I’m not really sure what to make of Wolfe’s thesis, except to say that I find it intriguing to think that speech may well be just as “inexplicable” as Wolfe appears to have wanted. I will have to read it again. Back to Blood does very little for me, but I may as well try that again too.

    I have at various times rated any of his first three novels as my favorite Wolfe books. Usually it’s a choice of either Bonfire or Man in Full – so hard to decide – but at times I have preferred Charlotte Simmons. His non-fiction I like too, although I don’t rate it as highly.

  38. @Undocumented Shopper

    I HATE seeing blacks in advertising. But I HATE seeing ‘whites’, Asians, Indigenous, children (in particular) and aliens in advertising, too, because I LOATHE ALL advertising. An irredeemable Evil and a cancer on humanity.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
  39. @Priss Factor

    After all, ‘wokeness’ is strangely silent about Zionist ‘genocide’ of Palestinians and Jewish suppression of BDS or Justice for Palestinians. So much for equity and inclusion.

    Except it really isn’t all that silent at all. Jonathan Greenblatt (ADL) complained in his recent book Jewish organizations are being treated as trustworthy by various progressive groups, who occasionally have the gall to refuse to work with them. It’s all still a loooooong way from having any effect on U.S. policy towards Israel, but it’s certainly wrong to say that wokists are ignoring the issue.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
  40. jamie b. says:

    Research continues.

    What’s wrong with ‘neobigotry’?

  41. Woke? Funny. They’re so awake they appear to be sleep walking.

  42. Forbes says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    That’s some serious trivia, Reg. Dick Ottinger! OMG. Goodell, yeah, a congresscritter from western NY to fill the expired term of the assassinated RFK.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  43. @silviosilver

    treated as trustworthy by

    I hope it was clear, but I meant to say untrustworthy. That is, they’re treated as unreliable on Palestine for no other reason than that they’re Jewish. Progressives are miles ahead of cuckservatives on this.

  44. @mulga mumblebrain

    Stop deliberately blinding yourself. Asians outnumber blacks in Australia like 10:1. In ads though, it’s blacks outnumbering asians. Only a twisted psychiatric condition can account for this bizarre fixation with pumping blacks into people’s consciousness.

    • Agree: sher singh
    • Replies: @Undocumented Shopper
  45. Anonymous[124] • Disclaimer says:

    RENOMAN: We don’t care and want them to grow up

    The trouble: the Right is filled with similar thinkers, the Left with doers.

    “Not caring” and “wanting” are useless in war. And ours IS a culture WAR.

    Conservative forget that life is more than cogitation and philosophizing. That it takes more than Republican “leaders” jaw-jawing” to change facts-on-the-ground. Socrates was both a stonemason and soldier. He killed other humans in the Peloponnesian War. He didn’t sit on his arse all day “thinking.”

    NB: I’m not advocating physical violence (unless in RESPONSE to being attacked). I AM saying that the Left doing while the Right dawdles means Woke wins.

    Like it or not, Jews use hasbara to spread Chosenism. And to counter each and every attack on Jews, deserved or not. Conservatives and Christians and Whites (CCW) need to do the same.

    CCW need their own ADL. Anyone trashing Whites needs to get bashed back pronto, not 3 months later. Anticaucasianism, antijesusism, etc. must be called out. Letting aspersions go unchallenged means they get believed.

    Whites need to unite and fight collectively because they’re being attacked collectively.

    Why should Jews…just 2% of the USA…be feared, but not Whites at 65+%?

    * Conservatives think Truth manifests itself, needing no advocates.

    * Christians think Jesus was a pussy who wanted ball-less followers.

    * Whites think antiwhites aren’t serious and will someday, on their own, “see the Light.”

    All three are wrong.

    They remind me of the non-moving men’s movement. It’s done jackshit since 1966 while everything male was attacked. Guys did bupkis when…

    …Harvard was forced to become coed, but not Wellesley;

    …Boy Scouts were forced to admit girls, but not Girl Scouts boys; and

    …feminists used Title IX to get funding for female sports, not put Men’s Centers on all college campuses (so males wouldn’t be so clueless about the social forces arrayed against them).

    The result?

    Today, any man’s life can be ruined by one anonymous accusation.

    Divorced women still get the kids and cash.

    Only men have the obligation to face death on frontlines for the right to vote.

    Guys are still expected to do all the dirty, dangerous, deadly jobs.

    Raped boys are considered a joke and/or “lucky.”

    And so on.

    Boys…seeing how passive-pussified-pusillanimous adult men have been for a half-century (and counting!)…now prefer to be non-binary, 2-spirit, gay, or furrykin: anything but straight like their dolt-dads.

    The cultural/national Titanic sinks by the hour. Heterosexual men cluck like hens, forgetting how to act.

    Plus consider: “brainiacs” like Jordan Peterson, Bret Weinstein, and others. They spent years (DECADES!) in academic swamps, blind to the very shite that ultimately felled them. The Achilles Heel of academe (abstract, purely-intellectual, ivory-tower living) is that it too often leads to dictatorships…and the steel-toe boot of reality kicking societal nates.

    How clueless can Western males be? Will they EVER wake up?

    Will they never fight for anything again?

  46. Anonymous[124] • Disclaimer says:

    DIE training is a subject for many UR articles.

    Too bad DIE wasn’t instituted and spread and allowed to infest schools solely by “articles.”

    DIE advocates publish articles, sure. And some books.

    They also pool money to evangelize.

    And so pay tons of speakers, promoters, advertisers, and shills.

    They pay producers to get their advocates cushy college gigs as guest speakers and permanent apparatchiks. That’s why scores of high-paid DIE “experts” are now on university payrolls.

    DIE-hards also sponsor well-attended conferences.

    And host fundraisers.

    And create college courses.

    And infect highschool curricula.

    And fill academe with dedicated teachers, principals, and promoters.

    And so on.

    Now…how do anti-Wokers oppose all that? By having a few online whiners and publishing a handful of little-read books.

    Oh, and Republican leaders hold de rigueur do-nothing “Senate hearings” and write “stern letters of warning” to Bigfoot and the Easter Bunny.

    It’s as if during WWII America had Cub Scouts sending cookies and milk to Adolf, asking him to be nicer.

    In a vicious, high-stakes, ongoing Western culture WAR, the Right plays pattycakes with take-no-prisoners, no-holds-barred enemies.

  47. @Forbes

    Goodell, yeah, a congresscritter from western NY to fill the expired term of the assassinated RFK.

    He honestly represented the people who sent him to Washington– his constituents in the House, and Rocky in the Senate!

  48. @silviosilver

    Only a twisted psychiatric condition can account for this bizarre fixation with pumping blacks into people’s consciousness.

    Well, it depends on what one’s definition of a psychiatric condition is.
    I suspect that the decision to saturate advertising with blacks was a made at a high level by people who are sadistic yet rational. It’s probably intended to demoralize Whites by making them feel there is nothing they can do about it.

    Theodore Dalrymple’s analysis hits nail on the head:

    Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.

    • Replies: @Francis Miville
  49. @silviosilver

    Mao’s indoctrination was entirely practical.

    He taught more people to read and write and vote than anyone in history.

    He taught them how to think about power and politics and how to participate in them.

    Read the Little Red Book. It will never go out of style. It’s the distilled wisdom of the world’s wisest leader.

    He was also one of the world’s greatest military commanders, and for the same reasons: he taught illiterate men how to organize themselves and repeatedly defeat far superior forces.

    Mao’s Four Nevers urged flexibility, “Never be afraid to negotiate; never be afraid to retreat; never be afraid to change your plans; never be afraid to attack.”

    He united his scattered armies, which lacked communications equipment, with sixteen characters in four rhyming lines and taught battlefield tactics to millions of illiterate troops who sang them as they marched, “When the enemy advances, we retreat; when he escapes, we harass; when he retreats, we pursue; when he is tired, we attack.”

    As he explained, “Those sixteen characters are the basic directives for a counter-campaign against encirclement and the phases of both the strategic defensive and the strategic offensive, as well as those of strategic withdrawal and the strategic counteroffensive in a defensive operation. In a sense, all that came afterwards was just an elaboration of those sixteen characters.”

    His invisible army, said Robert Payne⁠, “Played a cunning, furious, violent game, circling the Nationalists in the shadows, just out of reach, feinting, threatening, needling, then suddenly destroying them with blows from quarters so unexpected that entire armies sometimes collapsed in shock.”

    *Payne, Robert. Mao Tse-Tung, Ruler of Red China (pp.195-196). Read Books Ltd., Kindle Edition

    • Troll: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  50. @Undocumented Shopper

    The greatest civilizations around the Mediterranean, in India, in South-East Asia, as well as France at most of its periods of past glory were always based on that kind of generalized hypocrisy you describe, with absolutely no aim to inform, convince or disinform but only to humiliate all too strong personalities. The civilisation introduced by Louis the XIV aimed at humiliating in that very way the whole formerly proud noble class (but not only them) by the tireless repetition of convenient counter-facts. This phenomenon is called the courtesan society. Venice went even further : a society where facts don’t matter, only appearances, and where the essential question is not whether a sentence is true or not but whether it is fit or not to thread in the talk or to print, as the NYT said on its foundation copy.

    Actually the Soviet communists were good but just so-so at that game, they failed to produce an efficiently and charmingly working system of counter-factuality, they were beaten by America by far at that game in particular, and their talent at that game they owed more to the court society they had already been subject to under the Romanov and more indirectly to the Byzantine Empire they felt heir to, than to marxism itself which is rather poor and drab as an ideological fiction. Stalinism’s successes consisted essentially in the redirection of the former Russian Orthodox cult’s devotional practices towards a political saviour, but the orthodox practice itself had accomplished about 90% of the way towards Soviet-style reality negation in favour of this-wordly tyrannical figures : permanently denying the right of the faithful to the knowledge of truth and accepting established lies as truer than factual truth is part and parcel of the Orthodox faith : theological discussions are not supposed to be of your concern if you are an ordinary believer and when they lie to you it is because God had judged you are over-curious and don’t deserve to be told truth.

    Hinduism is even worse, actually Orwell got his inspiration for writing 1984 from his experience as a colonial civil servant in India through his contact with the Hindu society as well as with the bits of Hindu and Sanskrit philosophy that had then grown fashionable among posh British leftist circles. America fell into political correctness, especially as regards the cult of positive thinking, thanks to the cheap Hindu spirituality the Hippies were raised in by their gurus, who for the most part were Indian clowns surrounded by an abundant court of Jews caring for all the logistics of their career (which makes me think that Bezmenov is not so honest : not all mendacity is left-wing and the modern Indian social model is an even more absolute horror for any truth-seeker : all politicians and qualified professionals have the God-ordained duty to lie otherwise they prove they are lower-caste and should confine themselves to menial labour only). Actually you have never been able to visit India as a religious or mystical tourist of Western origin without the necessary intermediary of an Israeli tourist agency. All tours you are authorized to make in India are Jew-guided. If you don’t follow your guides, well, what you experience is worse than not following your guides when you were touring a Communist country. Don’t forget that the EIC (whose stars ans stripes flag was then identical to the early US one) was not an English enterprise but a Jewish-Persian one (headed by the Sassoons) that outsourced its industrial operations to England (so as to impoverish to death the once prosperous Indian manufacturing class), a barbarian, materialistic and know-nothing country too lacking in food ressources to refuse the Faustian deal. All the inventions early English industry prided upon were only partial disclosures from that company’s secret knowledge it had been using in India for centuries.

    • Troll: sher singh
  51. anon[274] • Disclaimer says:

    @Achmed E. Newman #19

    “They could have been reincarnated a century later and one wouldn’t know the difference except for the clothing and hair styles. These are the same people!”

    These *are* the same people: liberals , commies, progressives, woke – and whatever they call themselves next. They are endlessly reinvented, and they have been precisely portrayed by Dostoyevsky in his 19th century novel that goes by several different names, depending on the translator: “The Possessed,” “The Devils” or “The Demons.” “Liberalism” is truly a psychological disease. They said so themselves: The personal is the political. Better they should call themselves “Statics” rather than “Progressives,” as this eternal psychosis pops up again and again – old wine in new skin. (See also “The True Believer,” by Eric Hoffer.)

  52. I agree with Derb that Woke (or woke) doesn’t quite cut it — trivializing what it describes. It’s on the same order as how bow-tied institutional conservatives have characterized academic pathology for decades: something like, “Hey, get a load of what those crazy professors are doing now!” It’s a laugh, not to be taken too seriously.

    But at least Woke captures an important distinction. This isn’t your old ivy-covered leftism or domesticated communism, economic- or social-class consciousness. Nor campus radicalism. It’s not “political correctness” replacing old terms with new, like “differently abled.” All that is so 1990.

    No, this is a beast of a different color. The color is color. Race. And gender with all its emanations like gayness and transgenderism. As I key this, the spell checker doesn’t recognize “transgenderism,” having perhaps been stocked back in antiquity when “tranny” was understood as an automobile transmission. But any Woke social justice Jacobin need consult no dictionary, urban or otherwise.

    Calling someone or something Woke acknowledges that this is a new phenomenon in an ideologically driven Western world.

  53. MPO says:

    To describe what is being done to European peoples and cultures as a case of wokeness, is akin to saying that your aggressive cancer has you feeling a bit out of sorts.

    It’s also particularly galling in that the way out of our current situation must necessarily begin with a certain awakening as to the source of our misfortune.

    The most accurate description of our condition today is applied Semitism.

  54. Mac_ says:

    – on macilrae’s post, # 16, rather than reply under post will post down here. –
    It appears you may not have been around the supposed court systems the last twenty years or so.
    If there is a a court situation that involves you, you and whatever you have is/are on the line no matter what color the judge is. At least half of lawyers and judges are part of scheme, and where before some attempted to be slick about it most don’t even bother to hide it now. Much of the time one or both lawyers in on it, the con is to rip off both sides, and put down the good person in a case, more. It’s about more than money, destruction of the better person in a case, the one more likely to be against tyranny. Many lawyers are cabalists, part of larger situation. Suggest give some thought because we’re all subject to supposed judges now, whether like it or not, because people didn’t stop the tyranny situations sooner.

  55. @Mr. Ed

    Mr Derbyshire has a long ignoble history of failing to criticize “those people”

  56. Tiska says:

    It may come as a surprise to some people, but Russia has been there already … The destruction of age-old values, religion, and relations between people, up to and including the total rejection of family (we had that, too), encouragement to inform on loved ones—all this was proclaimed progress … By the way, the Bolsheviks were absolutely intolerant of opinions other than theirs. [ Russia’s New ‘Conservative’ Ideology To Counter Liberalism,, January 11, 2022]

    Dare I say this…. somewhere behind the “woke” revolution are similar forces as those behind the Bolsheviks….

    • Troll: mulga mumblebrain
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  57. Anonymous[333] • Disclaimer says:

    Knock, knock!
    Who’s there?
    Argo who?
    Argo woke yourself!

  58. @Dieter Kief

    People in the DDR had rich lives, with social solidarity unknown in the Western ‘societies of sharp elbows’. That is why Ostalgie was so strong after the Anschluss. Of course the greedy scum whoi wished to live by exploiting others fled to the West, just as Cuba has long had a human refuse pipeline emptying out in Florida.

  59. @Tiska

    MEMRI ie MOSSAD. Unimpeachable.

  60. @Godfree Roberts

    I have a tome, somewhere, showing how Mao’s strategy borrowed from wei qi, or go as it is known in Japan. And a very great poet in his spare time. The greatest figure of the last 500 years, for all his faults.

  61. SafeNow says:

    Philip Roth coined the term “The indigenous American berserk” in American Pastoral. It lies about below a surface veneer of sanity, like a loaded weapon, ready to be fired when the right circumstances occur, and this is now happened. Too many syllables, but otherwise it is perfect. So “IAB” perhaps, to be pronounced as an acronym or an initialism, you decide. Psychologists have the term “biological imperative” and this explains Derb Junior’s woke-fishing.

    Otherwise, a carrier strike force is on its way, extra arms sent indirectly to Ukraine just to be gratuitously nasty. Norway, all they want to do is eat herring in peace, forced to send a frigate, The idea of course is to rally poll-number support, which is the usual paradigm when foreign confrontations occur. But…

  62. @mulga mumblebrain

    Yes, the greedy East German people took big chances of getting shot and killed trying to cross the Berlin Wall for “greed”. Sure, that’s the ticket.

    Then Fidel Castro sent out 100,o00 criminals, let in by the gullible Jimmy Carter, and the rest just wanted to stay, cause, “free health care”. Sure, that’s the ticket.

    I kinda hope you are being sarcastic here …

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  63. @mulga mumblebrain

    I know what you mean.
    You sure know that the GDR also had the biggest secret service density per capita in the German history (and in the history of middle Europe – which is saying something).

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  64. @silviosilver

    Commenter SafeNow has a very interesting comment on this subject over at iSteve

    See also my two comments on this subject there; his is no. 11, mine no.12. I’ve forgotten to link my answer to his – as I said: Quite interesting post!

  65. Why are non-woke academics such p*ssies about pushing back on wokeness and creating their own non-woke alternatives. How hard would it be for some mathematicians to start their own non-woke (or even anti-woke) journal? Same for all the other disciplines.

    Can’t someone scrape together a little seed money to start up alternative, constitutionally non-woke organizations and institutions? Carping on the internet is fine, but the passivity of the non-woke in the domain of real institutions is frankly pathetic.

  66. @Dieter Kief

    JP is about as realist on race and sex as anyone. He clearly says: (a) IQ is real; (b) IQ scores are valid; (c) IQ is incredibly important to social outcomes; (c) IQ is highly heritable; (d) IQ varies by race; and (e) IQ can’t really be changed by environmental interventions.

    I don’t know if he’s ever explicitly connected the obvious dots that the racial differences are genetic, but I’ve also never seen him cuck out by claiming agnosticism on the issue, either.

  67. @Dieter Kief

    Says who? The West German BND intelligence, ie the Nazi Gehlen organisation, one of the many manifestations of West Germany as a Nazi succession State? Or the CIA or Western MSM?

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  68. @Achmed E. Newman

    What better place for criminals, psychopaths and other human detritus but the USA? Clever Fidel. Increased the average IQ in both places, too.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  69. Woke language is simply their new privilege, recently come by, so back off jack and let them bask in the light of a red dwarf .

  70. @mulga mumblebrain

    Says who?

    Well established and well documented hisorical and sciological fact.

    For details read the books of Christa Wolf, the autobiography of singer/ songwriter Wolf Biermann, the novel Am kürzeren Ende der Stalin Allee by Thomas Brussig; the oscar movie The life of the Others, listen to the songs of Bettina wegner, read the poems of Rainer Kunze (!!!) and the autobiographical book of Günther Fuchs, who was poisned to death by the Stasi.
    Vey good also: Land der Wudner by Michael Klonovsky about thelat GDR, mostly. Very good.
    Read also the autobiogaphy of Heiner Müller.
    And/ or visit the Stasi-docuemntation centre in Berlin.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  71. @Dieter Kief

    The Lives of Others was a great movie, Dieter! Thanks for bringing that up. Others reading may enjoy this recommendation, but MM won’t bother with all the other sources you wrote him. He’s a shill for China, not as idiotic-sounding as Godfree Roberts, but a shill just the same.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  72. @Achmed E. Newman

    Thanks for the hint, Mod. Interesting, that he now keeps quiet?! – Might have come to the conclusion, that my fortress of convictions is too well fortified, heheh. – I also love to talk to myself from time to time, so if he doesn’t read that stuff, I don’t care much. – Hey: You seem to have looked at it so: Mission Accomplished! Hehe.

    Ye-h, the mouthful director von Donnersmarck (= March o’ Thunder… puh!!!) of that movie got quite a bit of that stuff right. – Then he got stuck in Hollywood.

    I could have also mentioned Purity, because Franzen’s novel about computer-nerds and internet nerds and all that jazz – early political bloggers (first successful, than bitter….) – did start off in East Berlin behind the wall (great (as in GREAT!!( East Berin Stasi-scenesin that novel!!! Can’t praise ’em neough. And- you know: Afterwards world dominance-ideas of these onceso humbleand: system-critical kids and – all o’ a sudden: Megalomania! Paranoia. Big style prepperism (with an own airport – well a little jungle-road, preprared for aircraft) – – comin up… South-American shenanigans – the second time Franzen came up with South-American shenanigans. In Freedom it was a rich republican leaning blonde who turned on Joey from the liberal Berglund family to a horse-riding trip on an Argentinian if I remember right – hazienda – he later sums it up in retrospect: Super beautiful super rich, super spoiled Jenna – but: She sure knows how to waste 20 K for some days off and – have big style fun, while doing so: A hilarious chapter – one of my favourite Franzen scenes (which is saying quite a bit).

  73. MEH 0910 says:

  74. As with so many words in propaganda, woke means its opposite: asleep, stupid, docile. In short, communist. Such a society has committed suicide (sociecide?). It is just a matter of time.

    The debasement of mathematics with wokeism will only speed up the process. Hence the fatal algorithm D-I-E.

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