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There hasn’t been a whole lot of news about the Department of Justice investigation of Harvard University since I last mentioned the issue back in August.

To refresh your memory: the DOJ was responding to a complaint from a coalition of Asian-American groups that their people, Asian-Americans, are discriminated against by Harvard admissions officers.

Back then in August, the DOJ was just staffing up for an investigation. It seems that now they’re getting ahead with it. So at least I infer from this column by Betsy McCaughey [Email her] in Wednesday’s New York Post: Ending Ivy-League Bigotry . [November 28, 2017]

According to Betsy, Jeff Sessions’ DOJ has advanced to the point of demanding admissions records from Harvard.

Harvard, she says, is stonewalling like crazy. They haven’t delivered a single document. DOJ imposed a deadline of December 1st —which Harvard has apparently just (grudgingly) accepted (it’s trying to add a condition that “allowed government lawyers to look at the records only in the offices of Harvard’s lawyers, according to people close to the case”. [Harvard Agrees to Turn Over Records Amid Discrimination Inquiry, By Anemona Hartocollis, NYT, December 1, 2017]

This is nothing new. Harvard got sued in 2014 by a mainly Asian-American group on the same grounds—that Harvard runs a quota system on admissions to keep the numbers of Asians down. It has been stonewalling on that, Betsy reports:

Harvard has spent millions of dollars on legal maneuvers and court filings, trying unsuccessfully to get the lawsuit dismissed and to shield the college’s “holistic” admissions process from scrutiny. But a federal judge is compelling the college to hand over six years of admissions records … This lawsuit is expected to be tried in Boston late in 2018, but no doubt will end up at the US Supreme Court.

The first thing to be said about this is that of course Harvard does discriminate against Asian-Americans. Ron Unz crunched the numbers j ust five years ago over at The American Conservative in a brilliant piece titled “The Myth of American Meritocracy[November 28, 2012] You can also find the essay in Ron’s book of that title.

The centerpiece of Ron’s essay: a killer graph comparing the steady rise from 1990 to 2011 of the Asian-American college-age population with the dead-flat proportions of Asian-American admittances to Ivy League schools, held down firmly in a tight band between thirteen and eighteen percent.

Of course they are discriminating. Who doesn’t know it?

Betsy McCaughey is upbeat about the situation. Here’s her closing paragraph:

Harvard’s racial-quota system is indefensible. Fortunately, its days are numbered, because finally we have a Justice Department willing to fight for colorblind fairness in college admissions.

Needless to say, I’m going to take a much darker view. East Asians have higher mean IQ than whites, and of course far higher than mestizos and blacks. They especially excel at disciplines needing visuo-spatial skills. IQ aside, it seems likely they also have higher proportions of the personality characteristics that suit a person to high intellectual endeavor.

If Harvard and other high-prestige universities practice color-blind admissions, therefore, Asian-Americans will be way over-represented, and way-way over-represented in fields like math and computer science.

Betsy actually sees this:

Asian-American students now win nearly half the places at California Institute of Technology, up from only a quarter in 1992.

Okay, Betsy, but here’s my question: Is this actually good for America?

Think of the kind of resentment, anger, and bitterness that blacks feel when they see other races succeeding more than they do. Wouldn’t color-blind admissions just add a new layer of resentment in American society—with whites (known as “Americans” until the 1965 Immigration Act) watching Asians flood into the Ivies, displacing them?

Immigration patriots in the early 20th century strove to keep out East Asian immigrants, not because they “hated” them, as the infantile language of our current discourse would tell you, or because they thought them an inferior race, but because they feared mass immigration of East Asians would produce an overclass, generating discontent and resentment among legacy Americans.

As Kevin Macdonald wrote here at VDARE.com in 2004:

Many restrictionists, far from feeling they were members of a superior ethnic group, worried that their people could not compete with Japanese and Chinese.

I think that worry was reasonable. What would Betsy McCaughey say if I confronted her with it?

I’m sure she would respond with a stream of race-denialist blather. “There are no innate differences between the races,” she’d protest. “That’s a horrible thing to suggest! We just need the right social policies. Fix the schools! Save the black family! …”

We’ve heard it all a thousand times. Race denialism is state dogma in the 21st-century West. No one with a gig writing op-eds for the New York Post is going to turn race-realist.

Unfortunately, race-realism is true and race-denialism is a lie. That being the case, we have to choose between two evils: unfairness in college admissions, or higher levels of social discord.

To date we have chosen Door Number One. Are we quite sure that wasn’t the better choice—the lesser of two evils?

If you go to a doctor with a bacterial infection—an infected blister perhaps—he can give you an antibiotic, and you’ll be cured. If you go to him with a broken leg, he’ll get it set for you, and soon you’ll be playing tennis again. Doctors can fix things and cure things.

If, however, you go to the doctor with arthritis, or diabetes, or a leukemia like the one I have, he can’t fix it, he can’t cure it. What he can do is manage it: set you up so that the pain and inconvenience are the least possible. We can’t cure those conditions, but we can manage them, minimizing the trouble they cause us.

ORDER IT NOW

America’s race problem is like that. There’s no cure, although the race denialists breezily assure us there is. We can’t fix the schools to produce equal racial outcomes. God knows, we’ve been trying for decades, with essentially zero results. W e can’t make whites as smart as East Asians; Mother Nature’s standing in the way.

What we can do—what we do do—is manage the situation, to keep social discord at a minimum. Race quotas in college admissions is one aspect of that management. It works pretty well.

As I said back in August, though:

This is one of the holes we have dug for ourselves this past half century with mass immigration and multiculturalism.

Do I know how to get out of the hole? No.

I do know, though, that if we adopt Derbian Minimalism as our immigration policy with 1) no further settlement of foreigners from anywhere and 2) severe restrictions on numbers of foreign students, we might at least stabilize the situation.

There: I just said it again. We’ve foolishly, heedlessly made a mess for ourselves with these decades of mass immigration.

Now there are two things we have to do:

  • One: We have to manage the mess as best we can.
  • Two: We have to stop making it worse.

2010-12-24dl[1]

John Derbyshire [email him] writes an incredible amount on all sorts of subjects for all kinds of outlets. (This no longer includes National Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him. ) He is the author of We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism and several other books. He has had two books published by VDARE.com com:FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT (also available in Kindle) and FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT II: ESSAYS 2013.

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  1. D. K. says:

    What Mr. Unz’ study actually found was that Harvard discriminated against non-Hispanic White Gentiles– i.e., the American majority population, historically and still– about twice as badly as it did against so-called “Asians” (a ludicrous amalgam of East Asian “Orientals”– as we used to refer to them– and South Asian Caucasians):

    Almost every other elite college and university that Mr. Unz studied, for that groundbreaking article, also discriminated against non-Hispanic White Gentiles more than against so-called Asians.

    In addition, since so-called Asian applicants skew so prominently toward intended STEM majors, it is only natural that fewer are admitted to liberal-arts colleges and universities, which need and accept a much wider variety of intended subject majors, than is the case at technical colleges and universities.

    • Agree: Travis
  2. I’m not so sure that chart is as “killer” as you say. What percentage of Asians 18-21 were even going to college at all? Shouldn’t that be teased out from the total number?

    Also, of those going to college, what percentage had Ivy League-level SATs and grades? We don’t know.

    There are plenty of underachieving Asians. I see them all the time at the H Mart, stocking shelves with Hi-Chews (which are yummy).

    The suspicious part of the chart is the discrepancy between Cal Tech and the Ivies. But, that could be explained by the Asian nerd factor. They might naturally gravitate to a school filled with math grinds.

    I’m not saying they’re not discriminated against, I’m just saying that chart doesn’t prove it.

    • Replies: @WHAT
    , @Wally
  3. “W e can’t make whites as smart as East Asians; Mother Nature’s standing in the way.” Derbyshire is the gift that gives on giving. So, what he did was marry a Chinese woman and got 2 average, troubled Chinese offspring. Mother Nature played a joke on him.

    Mother Nature stood in the way when the Greeks laid down the foundations for science, mathematics, philosophy – the systems needed for conquering and mastering and understanding the world. I guess Mother Nature was peeved at the Chinese and Japanese and decided to give the Europeans an upper hand.

    Mother Nature stood in the way when the Industrial Revolution took off in England. Mother Nature was again peeved at the Chinese. For example, before the Chinese Exclusion Act of the USA, the Chinese were working with whites on the railroads. When they were expelled, did they go back and turn China into an industrial power with the knowledge they gained in the West? No.

    Mother Nature stood in the way of Japan becoming an industrialized country. She let the shogunate close off Japan. Mother Nature again gave her European offspring the upper hand by allowing Capt. Matthew Perry to overthrow the shogunate and force Japan to modernize.

    Today, everyone praises the talent of classical Asian musicians. But what kind of music are they playing? Classical Asian music? No. Dead white male music.

    Derbyshire you really out did yourself with the above comment. I’ll let you respond. Tell us what Asian science, philsophy, music changed and conquered the world?

    • Agree: renfro
    • Troll: Kevin C.
  4. Hail says: • Website

    See comments by Razib Khan on this:

    You can’t manufacture leadership and charisma. Harvard’s role is to educate and inculcate the leaders of the next generation of Americans. It is the training ground for our natural aristocracy. Can American society actually conceive of a situation where 40% of those leaders are Asian? I doubt it. Asian Americans are not seen as plausible leaders. [...] Do we as a society need to abolish all discrimination by any means necessary? I’d say no.

    (From “Asian Americans Lack ‘Good Character’” [May 16, 2015])

    I note that Razib Khan was born in Bangladesh (as far as I know) and has been in the USA from early childhood. His implicit endorsement of defacto race quotas to prevent an ‘Asian takeover’ of the USA’s elite academia should be seen in this light.

    • Replies: @dearieme
    , @Ronnie
  5. Hail says: • Website

    Is there evidence of discrimination in admissions against Half-Asian applicants?

  6. Hail says: • Website
    @D. K.

    What explains the very low % of White Gentiles at the Ivy League today, if not discrimination? (This must be simply baffling to the many adherents of the popular White Privilege conspiracy theory.)

    If Northwest-European White-Protestants are the ethnocultural core of the USA, and if they operate in a culture of pervasive racial-cultural supremacism, as out betters tell us is the case, then there is no explaining this vast under-representation.

    Does an actual dizzy feeling come along with these levels of Cognitive Dissonance?

  7. Discard says:

    There is no reason to suppose that Orientals are smarter than Whites. That the average Chinese in America may be smarter than the average White indicates only that the Chinese that come here are smarter than average. They don’t get on the jet straight from the rice paddies, you know. China can spare a few of their many, many millions of midwit drudges in order to dominate the professional class in America, with a good leavening of spies as well.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @Art Deco
    , @Truth
    , @Wally
  8. Yan Shen says:
    @D. K.

    In addition, since so-called Asian applicants skew so prominently toward intended STEM majors, it is only natural that fewer are admitted to liberal-arts colleges and universities, which need and accept a much wider variety of intended subject majors, than is the case at technical colleges and universities

    .

    Yeah I had always wondered about that as well whenever I heard people arguing that sans affirmative action Asians would be about 40% of Harvard undergrad, comparable to their numbers at Caltech for instance. Caltech is obviously a STEM focused school, whereas Harvard, as you’ve pointed out is a much more well rounded school.

    Not sure if the existing studies that are often cited on these matters, i.e. Espenshade, adequately take that into account.

    • Replies: @dearieme
  9. Fty says:

    Remember when Derp wrote an article where he called a 14-year-old girl “white trash”?

    http://www.vdare.com/articles/the-war-against-white-trash

    The Eternal Anglo, through miscegenation and lack of fecundity, is finally having its immortality revoked.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  10. Yan Shen says:

    We can’t make whites as smart as East Asians; Mother Nature’s standing in the way.

    It’s probably a little more complicated than that. The existing literature on intelligence suggests that East Asians exhibit a significant math/verbal split. They tend to score a little lower than whites on verbal reasoning, but typically score significantly higher on spatial/quantitative tests of aptitude.

    The most obvious manifestation of this is in the well documented East Asian tendency to skew towards STEM and away from the social sciences and humanities. Let me point out two additional facts that may not be as well known that are likely also the result of this math/verbal split. First, even within STEM East Asians exhibit a clear preference for the physical sciences over the life sciences and medicine. As noted by Simon Marginson in the quote below, China’s rapid rise in science has been disproportionately concentrated in the quantitative STEM fields.

    “Take chemistry: in the year 2000, China published 3.7 per cent of all papers in chemistry in the Thomson-Reuters Web of Science collection, based on all Thomson-accredited English-language journals. In 2012, that proportion had reached 16.9 per cent, and China’s total quantity of chemistry papers exceeded that of the US. More strikingly, in 2000 China authored just 0.6 per cent of chemistry papers ranked in the global top one per cent on citation rate in the Web of Science. Only 12 years later, in 2012, China published 16.3 per cent of the leading one per cent of papers, half as many as the US – an astonishing rate of improvement. There were similar patterns in engineering, physics and computing – where China publishes more top one per cent papers than the US – and mathematics (NSF, 2014).

    China, Taiwan, Korea, Japan, and to some degree Singapore, have concentrated research development in the physical sciences and related applied fields like engineering, computing and materials. In Korea and Japan this supports advanced manufacturing. China also emphasises research that supports accelerated modernisation: energy, urbanisation, construction, transport and communications. At this stage medicine and life sciences are much weaker.”

    Math/verbal split probably also explains why East Asia skews towards hardware and manufacturing as opposed to software and services, as is the case in the United States or India for instance. My guess is as East Asia further develops, we’re increasingly likely to see these sorts of cognitive differences become more pronounced.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Anonymous
  11. Yan Shen says:
    @attilathehen

    Well I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. You seem to have an extraordinarily strange obsession with other people’s personal lives. Live your own life and be happy, eh? Associate with whoever you want, and grant others that same basic right.

  12. GHU says:

    When will lower-case “white” stop being used as a comparison to upper-case “East Asian” or “Chinese” or “Jew”? It’s either white, yellow, black, brown, and perhaps the awkward “red” (New World), or proper nouns rooted in race, ethnicity, or geographic provenance. Germans are white like Heineken is beer. Ashkenazis are white like Budweiser is beer. These cladistic groupings can be broadened (e.g. Germans to Germanics/Nordics to Europeans) or shrunk (Bavarians, Baltic Germans) for comparative purposes, but to constantly read about Hispanics compared to blacks compared to Asians compared to whites compared to Jews is so illogical it’s maddening.

    What food grows best: apples, Brussels sprouts, purples, Granny Smiths, or vegetables?

  13. Yan Shen says:

    I do know, though, that if we adopt Derbian Minimalism as our immigration policy with 1) no further settlement of foreigners from anywhere and 2) severe restrictions on numbers of foreign students, we might at least stabilize the situation.

    As a traditional nationalist, I’m generally in favor of America smartly evaluating its immigration policies. I don’t know if I could go as far as Derbian Minimalism. For starters, that would’ve eliminated someone like John Derbyshire coming over to the US from the UK. I think more generally speaking we should reduce legal immigration, make sure colleges don’t favor foreign students over domestic ones, and adopt a sane immigration policy based mostly on merit. So while the Derb and I might not quite agree on the extent to which we should curtail immigration, I think we’re mostly on the same page and want to move in the same direction.

    Where I’m less convinced is that curtailing immigration will somehow make everything all perfect once again. Given today’s increasingly global society, countries are competitively affected even by other nations far away. As the hysteria of Japan bashing during the late 1980s and early 1990s in America showed, bad feelings can arise even when the offending people live thousands of miles away from you.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1991/06/16/europes-new-rage-japan-bashing/0b9b1f7b-e578-4aae-926b-e2bdd6809f68/?utm_term=.591409152e30

    A new wave of anti-Japanese sentiment is spreading across Europe as public admiration for Japan’s remarkable postwar recovery is rapidly turning to fear that its economic juggernaut will soon smash key industries, conquer the unifying European market and transform the continent into an industrial colony.

    Books and newspapers are jammed with references to the “Japanese peril.” The Japanese “salaryman’s” arduous office hours, skimpy vacations and fanatical work ethic are scorned in France and Germany as anathema to an enlightened lifestyle, yet considered a warning of what the future might bring if Japanese firms succeed in dominating the European economy.

    Competition with China or Japan certainly isn’t going to disappear just because there are fewer Chinese or Japanese living in the United States!

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    , @Truth
    , @Wade
    , @Rdm
  14. dearieme says:
    @attilathehen

    “Mother Nature stood in the way when the Greeks laid down the foundations for science, mathematics, philosophy …

    Mother Nature stood in the way when the Industrial Revolution took off in England.”

    Mother Nature seemed to ensure that Europeans were largely devoid of intellectual sizzle between, roughly, Ancient Greece and 17th-18th-19th century England. Funny that.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
    , @Malla
  15. dearieme says:
    @Hail

    “Harvard’s role is to educate and inculcate the leaders of the next generation of Americans. It is the training ground for our natural aristocracy”: given what a dog’s breakfast your natural aristocracy has been making of public affairs, maybe you should experiment with replacing them by Asians.

    “endorsement of defacto race quotas to prevent an ‘Asian takeover’ of the USA’s elite academia”: and that goes in spades for your academia, elite or otherwise.

    • Replies: @Bill
  16. dearieme says:
    @Yan Shen

    “Caltech is obviously a STEM focused school, whereas Harvard, as you’ve pointed out is a much more well rounded school.” That’s well-rounded in the sense of teaching lots of socio-twaddle, is it?

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  17. Acilius says: • Website

    Well, if for heritable reasons the average East Asian is smarter and more conscientious than the average European, doesn’t that imply that keeping the USA competitive internationally requires large-scale immigration from East Asia, even if that results in the rise of an overclass that we poor dumb honkies are unable to join? Otherwise we might stay on top of the American heap, but without the most effective human capital it will eventually be a Third-World heap.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @ThreeCranes
  18. Art Deco says:

    Here’s a suggestion: repeal anti-discrimination laws applying to college admissions. Leave a residuum: a disclosure requirement akin to the financial statements philanthropies have to file with secretaries of state. It would be in the form of a demographic sheet which would include stock and flow statistics on their student body broken down by coarse racial categories, and include an index of college board scores applying to each category. Such a statement would have to be audited by a licensed firm and the federal law requiring it would include criminal penalties for corporations which lie and for officers thereof implicated in the lying. A few deans behind bars and selling their homes to pay legal fees should persuade the rest to lay off their usual lying for a bit to issue an accurate statement. Let them discriminate all they want. Just insist they make public the detritus of that.

  19. Art Deco says:
    @Acilius

    Why not compose a bibliography of general audience literature on the Japanese economy published between 1981 and 1989 and then look at data on the evolution of Japan’s productive base since that time as compared with a clutch of occidental countries?

  20. Art Deco says:
    @Discard

    I think there’s a present-tense cross sectional difference. Several questions for the rest of us: how valid are cross-cultural psychometic comparisons, to what extent does the difference in median score between one collectivity and another derive from the sources which induce differences in scores between individuals, and how does this metric influence economic development. Richard Lynn presented a thesis on economic development which he generated without consulting any literature in economics (which you can verify by examining his bibliography).

  21. Art Deco says:
    @Discard

    I’m recalling that Edward Luttwak offered that journalists produce narratives about Japan which present them as a society of ‘work-obsessed automatons’, something, per Luttwak, which is true only of a minority of company men and factory workers.

  22. Art Deco says:
    @dearieme

    That’s well-rounded in the sense of teaching lots of socio-twaddle, is it?

    About 1% of all post-secondary teachers are sociologists (15,000 out of 1.5 million in this country), and a great many of these specialize in the use of quantitative methods.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  23. @Yan Shen

    Attila asked a question. What do or did Japan or China ever invent, or do anything that was new other than copy and of course, re-engineer in its own name? Oh, and out-and-out steal the industrial secrets they needed from us?

    This isn’t a personal matter, except you certainly took it that way. And you and the Derbs say?

  24. TheOldOne says:

    Mr. Derbyshire used to call us latrine flies; now he writes columns for our perusal. Sorry about that lost NR gig, John.

  25. I don’t buy this.

    2050: JAPAN NOT CHINA Will be Asia’s DOMINANT Power

  26. 36 ulster says:
    @attilathehen

    They…well-I–don’t call him Bertie
    Woostershire for nothing.

  27. Art Deco says:
    @Jim Christian

    out steal the industrial secrets they needed from us? This isn’t a personal matter, except you certainly took it that way. A

    His regarding it as a personal matter might have something to do with ‘atilla’ lobbing insults at the moderator for having married a Chinese woman and having demi-Oriental children.

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    , @Truth
  28. @Yan Shen

    Competition with China or Japan certainly isn’t going to disappear just because there are fewer Chinese or Japanese living in the United States!

    No, it won’t. But that is not an argument immigration restrictionists ever make.

    • Agree: Pincher Martin
  29. Bill says:
    @dearieme

    The US has, right now, an elite which was chosen via the IQ meritocracy instituted by the old SAT. And our elite absolutely sucks. Whatever we do going forward, IQ meritocracy should be no part of it.

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Anonymous
  30. @dearieme

    There was a lot going on during the Middle Ages. Plus, Europe had to deal with the Muslims. But this did give China and Japan time to invent something. They didn’t.

    • Replies: @HogHappenin
    , @athEIst
    , @Rdm
  31. Truth says:
    @attilathehen

    LOL:

    I set the over/under at 10 responses before you came with the Mossberg, babe, I was way under!

    • Replies: @Clyde
  32. The hell with Asians. Most of them are proggy cuz they’re yellow dogs. They uncritically swallow the official ideology without any reflection or contemplation. Cultural Revolution happened in China. Japanese were fanatics during WWII. Koreans are wanna-be imitators. higher IQ was wasted on the wrong people, a dog race that follows and obeys but hasn’t the will to think and lead.

    Since PC rules the US, these yellow dog Asians tend to turn proggy. And even ones that aren’t proggy will turn proggy once they go through 4 yrs of Ivy League indoctrination and associations. Being status-obsessed, yellows will go with ANY ideology that bestows higher status and prestige.

    Look at most proggy Asians and they call for Diversity and etc.

    And they are so earnest-naive-stupid. At least Jews do it to boost their own power. Jews are ruling elites who want diversity for divide-and-rule in gentile nations. But Jews never push for non-Jewish diversity in Israel. So, Jews control and toy with PC for their own benefit.

    In contrast. yellow dogs swallow wholehog the supposed wonders of PC. They gain success in the West not to dominate but to serve the dominant power… which happens to be Jewish and Homo. And since they swallow it wholehog, they try to import the same crap back to their own Asian nations. All those yellows in Canada and US are sending all the PC crap back home. Why is Taiwan going for ‘gay marriage’ now?

    Paradoxically, as yellows gain more elite ranks in the West, they do more harm to their own kind. Yellows seek status to serve the Great Power that is Jewish-Homo-Americanus. And since Jewish-Homo-American globalism is anti-gentile-nationalism, these privileged yellows in high positions eventually work AGAINST their own kind.
    It’s like, when a Negro was elevated from Field Negro to House Negro, it made prospects of black power and liberation even dimmer. Why? The House Negro didn’t enter the master’s house to take over. No, he entered to serve the massuh oppress the Negroes even better. These yellows enter into Ivy Leagues to be servants than masters. Look at spread of homo crap in Japan, Korea, Taiwan, and even Vietnam!

    Whites must oppose yellows as both servants and masters. There is no reason for white nations to be ruled by non-white masters of any kind. Also, when yellows become servants, they are NOT serving white gentiles but Jewish-Homo Globalism. Since the West is ruled by Jews and Homos, white people are the subject people, a colonized people. Since yellows love to serve the Master, they end up serving Jews and Homos to destroy white gentiles. But since the Jewish-Homo agenda is to weaken all gentile nations, these yellows will, in time, even serve Jews and Homos in the PC-ization of Asia. Taiwan is harbinger of things to come. It is now just a yellow Canada, a cultural Puerto Rico of the Homo West.

    Yellows will never gain dominance in the West, but they are dangerous because they are such diligent and earnest servants of the Power. They will fail to gain dominance because the minute yellows come to the West, yellow women lose all respect for dorkus yellow men like the one in FARGO. So, even as they pass exams, they fail in making life, and this failure now has extended to yellow nations themselves. Also, as alpha Asians will mix with whites, the remaining Asians will become even more passive and dorky. Pure genetics. More able and adventurous Asians mix with other races. So, those Asians who stick together will be dorkier and dorkier… like the Amish whose genetics are being weeded out of the adventurous and individualistic types.
    So, yellows are not dangerous like Jews who’ve had a powerful sense of identity even without a nation for 1000s of yrs. In contrast, Asians lose their identity the minute they leave their homelands and want to be accepted by the Greater Power, which currently happens to be Jewish-Homo Globalism with Negroes as icons.
    Still, yellows will make a difference because they will be such committed servants of PC. Look how all these Asian lawyers and judges have been working for Jews and Homos to block Trump and white American interests. Yellow dogs must go.

    Now, the hindus… that’s another story. They tend to stick together more. There is less outmarriage, so their identity will remain more intact.
    Also, Hinduism has a sense of truth beyond the temporal, and this gives them a power akin to that of Jews.
    East Asians, steeped in Confucian history, has no sense of power or truth beyond the political or social. So, whatever happens to the biggest man-made power is the ultimate authority for East Asians. So, if PC is the highest man-made authority in the West, East Asians go for it 100%. It’s no wonder why so many Chinese swallowed Maoism 100%.

    In contrast, even as the People of Dot pretend to play along with PC, their cultural habit is to hold(and hide) a sense of truth much deeper and higher than the come-and-go constructions of man.
    Jews had this sense too. Even when surrounded by much greater gentile powers and empires, their sense of the Covenant made them feel special and unique on the basis of the connection with one and only God. That sense meant more than all the empires around the world.

    Hindus have a similar ‘ethno-spiritual’ worldview, which is why they are more adept at the chess game of power. They know how to play all pieces whereas East Asians are used to playing the subordinate pieces in serving whatever happens to the top man-made power.

    • Agree: peterike
  33. Truth says:

    We can’t fix the schools to produce equal racial outcomes. God knows, we’ve been trying for decades, with essentially zero results. W e can’t make whites as smart as East Asians; Mother Nature’s standing in the way.

  34. Truth says:
    @Discard

    There is no reason to suppose that Orientals are smarter than Whites.

    None whatsoever. Except the same studies that indicated that whites are smarter than blacks. That’s it.

  35. Truth says:
    @Yan Shen

    Well Yan, I mean the Derb has an strange obsession with other people’s personal lives. That’s why he’s achieving his PhD in Blackpeopleology.

    Attilathehen is just peer reviewing his research.

  36. Truth says:
    @Yan Shen

    I don’t know if I could go as far as Derbian Minimalism. For starters, that would’ve eliminated someone like John Derbyshire coming over to the US from the UK.

    Dude, I literally had 12 snarky comments come into my head at the same time when I read that. It was like rush hour in Times Square, but this statement really is better as a freestanding monument, without a tour guide.

  37. Mr. Derbyshire may be the only race realist among the Race Realists. Given the huge gap between Asians and whites in STEM performance, affirmative action for whites–which is what quotas for Asians are–is the only way to keep the inferiority from becoming too obvious and leading to trouble.

    CalTech, with exceedingly high entrance requirements and no affirmative action, is indeed an indicator. The state is 15 percent Asian, about 40 percent white, but CalTech is 43 percent Asian. It is and 29 percent white though the state is roughly 40 percent white. The school is only 12 percent Hispanic (these are drawn from only those who speak English and have a high -school education) and one percent black. Take from the white figures an unknown proportion of Jews, and Eurowhites look dismal.

    Favoring less able whites over Asians will have the same effect on academic standards as favoring blacks over whites.
    America does not have enough Jews and Asians to balance the roughly one billion Han Chinese whom Beijing increasingly can deploy in technical fields. Three times as many barins, superior in any event, backed by intelligent government. We are, methinks, seeing the birth of the world’s last and genetically empire.

  38. Art Deco says:
    @Frederick V. Reed

    CalTech, with exceedingly high entrance requirements and no affirmative action, is indeed an indicator.

    It’s a private institution with 2,000 students.

  39. Thomm says:
    @Frederick V. Reed

    America does not have enough Jews and Asians to balance the roughly one billion Han Chinese whom Beijing increasingly can deploy in technical fields.

    That is why immigration of Indians (from India) is crucial. India is still a poor country with many basic problems, but for whatever reason, Indians are THE most successful ethnic group in the US, bar none. The Indians who come to the US are not exclusively some Top-1% tier either (more like Top 20%).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

    This serves to counter the PRC juggernaut that you mention.

  40. I can guarantee that Asian American citizen female applicants to Harvard with an SAT score >=2300 have a higher rate of admission than corresponding white male applicants. Same at all other comparable elite US universities.

    It might be by an order of magnitude, or more, something like 20 times.

    Whatever anyone else says or cares about “racial discrimination” the above is the only thing any sane person would care about on this Asians vs whites discrimination issue (of course blacks and Hispanics are massively favored)

    Of course the gender discrimination at all elite US universities is so overwhelming and obvious that someone has to be insane to deny it, even say MIT has outright published their admit rate for females is twice as high as males, but that’s not the point. Stupid racists, not necessarily excluding Asian racists filing lawsuits, are so stupid they don’t even understand the difference between gender discrimination and racial discrimination, nor the related factors like Simpson’s paradox that play into what we see in the real world. You’ve also got stupid racists failing to grasp many other simple facts, like that the high school student population of California is not the same as the rest of the country in percentage Asian, but ignoring all that for now.

    FAPP everybody (even the Asian students at the elite schools, mostly) actually wants there to be a 50/50 gender split, regardless of the consequences.

    What the universities are again deathly afraid of becoming public knowledge is their actual behavior regarding other factors that are salient even among whites only. A white male student with a 2300 SAT score will not be admitted to Harvard, in favor of an athlete or Jared Kushner (someone whose family/political connections/monetary bribery gets them admitted) with an SAT score hundreds of points lower.

  41. @Art Deco

    married a Chinese woman and having demi-Oriental children.

    Hey, it’s the only way I would have gone with a second marriage. A White feminist is no kind of woman to wife up, I discovered to my dismay. The feminist ethic is a wretched, destructive beast..

    • Replies: @Truth
  42. @Jim Christian

    What do or did Japan or China ever invent, or do anything that was new other than copy and of course, re-engineer in its own name? Oh, and out-and-out steal the industrial secrets they needed from us?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/03/opinion/lost-einsteins-innovation-inequality.html

    Scroll Down to “Patents per 1,000 children, by race and 3rd-grade math performance”

    Asian 8.2 per 1000
    White 3.6 per 1000
    Black 1.0 per 1000
    Hispanic 0.6 per 1000

    This is the US only.

  43. @Frederick V. Reed

    We are, methinks, seeing the birth of the world’s last and genetically empire.

    Add to that, these are folks that don’t exactly cotton to illegal immigration onto their property. And so they won’t ever dilute.

  44. I don’t know why the DOJ even bothers with this. Per the NYT 76% of Asians voted for Obama in 2012. Probably even more voted for Hillary in 2016. The same liberals who they so love are the ones who discriminate against them the most, they got what they deserved!

    From SV execs to elected officials, journalists, civil servants, lawyers, Asians are some of the most vocal anti-Trumpers, especially Indian Americans who are increasingly following in the footsteps of Jews in SV, Wall Street, journalism, law, civil service, politics, and every bit as tribal as the Jews. Meanwhile, the two idiot judges in HI and MD who tried to block Trump’s travel bans are both Harvard law school educated Asian Americans. Ted Lieu the dumb Dem from CA went to Stanford.

    We need fewer Asians to get brainwashed at these liberal indoctrination centers, not more. Let the Ivies continue to discriminate against them, while we strongly curtail Asian immigration. We’ll all be better off.

  45. Hibernian says:
    @Art Deco

    Socio-twaddle isn’t limited to the discipline, if you can call it that, of sociology.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  46. @Frank the Prof

    Yeah, this was from an article written by the dark skinned East Indian Raj Chetty. First, he needs to go back to India where the average IQ is 82 and get them going on patents.

    Second, I worked in patent law and most of our lawsuits were against Asians stealing American technology.

    Third, the few patents Asians produce are very low quality. They are mostly minor changes to an existing item from a patent.

    The West is best.

  47. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomm

    Lol. Thomm is an Indian Hindu national and Hindus are the last thing this country needs.

    And being the most successful is a dubious claim since a lot of Indians have made it to the top by scamming and practicing nepotism. Why would we want more Indians when India is such a mess.

    Indians are the world’s most rapiest people and letting in more Indians will just mean they will want to bring even more Indians in. No thanks.

    Ps. India has an iq of 82. Having more quickie marts isn’t going to help America.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  48. Truth says:
    @Frederick V. Reed

    All right, all in favor of affirmative-action for, well, mentally-challenged, caucazoids who can, none the less, play sports and sing and dance, say “Aye.”

  49. @Yan Shen

    Yan Shen, maybe you don’t read English to well so let’s take a look at what I wrote. Derbyshire wrote “W e can’t make whites as smart as East Asians; Mother Nature’s standing in the way.” This would be an extremely strange statement from an Englishman. Cecil Rhodes said that any one born English was a lottery winner. So there must another reason why such a man would make such a stupid statement. Voila!!! He’s married to a Chinese woman and has Chinese offspring. Also, as a Caucasian woman, I find such a statement incredibly stupid and offensive. So now we know we’re dealing with a racial degenerate. Also, as a Causcasian, Asians are inferior, second-tier to us. Derbyshire could avoid a lot of these problems. I commented before that when he makes an appearance at an AmRen conference, his wife and offspring could make public statements thanking him for allowing them to live and be born in the West. They would be thankful for the European blood that has improved their evolution. But he and they won’t because Derbyshire really believes his dragon lady is the cause of the offspring’s greatness.

    Here’s another example of why a person’s personal life is important. I read stuff on the alt-right and there’s been some controversy over a couple of women – Lauren Southern and Tara McCarthy. It turns that (((Lauren Southern))) is Jewish and dates black men. There is nothing Jewish or black about the alt right. (((Southern))) has been milking white beta males through her fund raising accounts but spends her time with black guys. Tara McCarthy is busy hanging out with homos. Homosexuals have destroyed the RCC, the Boy Scouts, so many things. Homos are not a part of the alt-right. Also, she had a grandmother was was Jewish and East Indian. She is not Jewish and is Caucasian so she’s ok. It’s her homo stuff that’s the problem. I follow Radio Aryan but some of those people are hooked on a racial purity that doesn’t exist. Also, Hitler was most likely part Jewish, something they refuse to acknowledge. Plus they like China and Shia Muslims so that’s another problem.

    Derbyshire’s offspring could assimilate but today with international travel it is very easy for them to hook up with Asians. But, if they marry Asians they cannot be a part of the West. Fortunately, we’re dealing with small numbers so we can nip this problem in the bud.

    • Replies: @Biff
    , @Rdm
    , @Yan Shen
  50. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Good for the Derb to be honest about affirmative action and how it is useful to keep Asians from taking over the country.

    But no sympathy for whites until they leave the rest of the world alone. Whites rule the economy of Mexico and indeed much of the world. Imagine the reaction if Mexico put quotas on white people controlling their economy. Whites would probably topple the government.

    So until whites learn to leave others the fuck alone, I have no problem seeing other races stake their claim to America.

  51. Truth says:
    @Art Deco

    His regarding it as a personal matter might have something to do with ‘atilla’ lobbing insults at the moderator for having married a Chinese woman and having demi-Oriental children.

    Well DUH-uh-UH!

    The pupose of this website is to defend traditional white values and ways of life, isn’t it?

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  52. Truth says:
    @Jim Christian

    Wait a minute, Jimbrowski I’m having trouble understanding here, are you standing with The Derb, or against him?

    • Replies: @Anon
  53. @Acilius

    You left something out.

    When tallying up extreme intelligence, what’s being compared is the area under the far right hand of the bell curve. While it may be true that both Chinese (and I don’t believe this because China is loaded with peasants who probably are under counted) and Jewish intelligence is higher at the extreme, there are so many whites in America that, when the plots are compared, the area under the white curve is much greater than that of both Chinese and Jews.

    That’s holds true today. Were the USA today to allow massive Chinese immigration then the relative areas would change and indeed, Chinese people would dominate at the top. Hence, we must limit immigration.

    Dominance by the Jews on the other hand, we can do nothing about since they were chosen by God himself to lead humanity out of the dark ages.

  54. can you guys imagine the uproar if every university admits students like caltech?

    asians would probably become the most hated group in the usa overnight.

    but if other universities doesn’t change their admittance rules to caltech standards, fred would be 100% right as we will not be able to compete.

    lets hope we build an AI first, welcome our new AI overlord.

  55. This whole “diversity” push by college admissions is a total joke. The only kind of “diversity” they are interested in is that of skin color. They could care less about diversity of thoughts. In fact, they go out of their way to admit kids who think exactly alike — the way they want them to think, proper libtard SJWs. If you worked on the Bernie Sanders campaign, be sure to trump that up on your application and you’re in. If you worked on the Trump campaign, better shut up about it on your app or you’re toast. In other words, these elite schools want kids who only look different, but think exactly alike. That’s why our elite schools have turned into total echo chambers. No difference of views permitted.

    And then they claim they teach our kids how to think. What a laugh. More like what to think.

    Fuck the Traitorous Eight. We need a future where the smartest kids come from state universities, or are completely self-taught, not from these elitist pompous socialist indoctrination centers obsessed with their own self-importance.

  56. @Thomm

    Thomm the Indian nationalist advocating for an Indian takeover of the US every chance he gets. Make India Great Again!

    If Indians are so smart and so capable why is India the sewer pit of humanity? Go fix your own fucked up third world hell hole first before you conquered someone else’s through mass immigration fraud. Silicon Valley was great before all you Indian fraudsters arrived and it will be great again when you are all gone.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Bragadocious
    , @Biff
    , @Thomm
  57. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Priss Factor

    Hindus have a similar ‘ethno-spiritual’ worldview, which is why they are more adept at the chess game of power. They know how to play all pieces whereas East Asians are used to playing the subordinate pieces in serving whatever happens to the top man-made power.

    This is true in the West, Indians are much more like the Jews than East Asians due to their tribalism and loquaciousness. While East Asians tend to pursue the technical fields, Indians are increasingly pursuing professions that are dominated by the Jews such as law, investment banking, politics, journalism, civil service. However in ethnically mixed countries in Asia like Malaysia and Singapore, the Chinese who are much more entrepreneurial tend to be the business owners while the Indians either work for the Chinese, or are in criminal gangs and rob them blind.

    As far as East Asians drinking the Kool-aid by the buckets, I find that curious as well, since the Chinese in Asia are known for their pragmatism. But the biggest and most vocal progressive tards in the US (after the Jews and the blacks) are the Indians, from Sundra Pichai in Silicon Valley to Kshama Sawant, Pramila Jayapal, Kamala Harris in politics, to Aziz Ansari, Hasan Minaj, Kumail Nanjani in entertainment, all are left wing nuts and zealous anti-Trumpers. The current US ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley is such a staunch Zionist you almost wonder if she’s sleeping with Natanyahu.

    Neither the Chinese nor the Indians can be trusted. In that regard they are like the Jews. They all lack that integrity chip that governs most protestant whites. I wouldn’t say it’s because of Christianity. Most Catholics and blacks (who are mostly protestant) are equally untrustworthy.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @denk
    , @Bach
  58. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Yan Shen

    The most obvious manifestation of this is in the well documented East Asian tendency to skew towards STEM and away from the social sciences and humanities.

    Perhaps that’s why East Asian countries haven’t been consumed by the liberal madness that’s dragging the West down in flames. In the US most East Asians do not pursue those fields because they are very practical and see the social sciences and humanities as tickets to unemployment.

    • Replies: @unpc downunder
  59. the problem is not and never has been discrimination.

    the problem is the multi-ethnic society.

    there is NO moral or political solution

    america and the americas should be nuked or abandoned to its indigenes.

    just imagine if trump wasn’t a woman?

    but sailer and bruce-lee-brush-with-greatness will keep fellating the masters of ‘mer’ca.

    SAD!

    my dad is harvard college ’66.

    so there!

  60. Art Deco says:
    @Hibernian

    What else did you have in mind?

  61. Art Deco says:
    @Truth

    The pupose of this website is to defend traditional white values and ways of life, isn’t it?

    No, the purpose is to find a collection of conceited cranks and provide them a forum to display whatever confusions are between their ears.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Orwellian State
  62. @Semper Fidelis

    Yeah I think Thommmm told me in another thread that Poles weren’t considered white in the United States before 1965. Neither were the Irish, he said. Indians sure are cocky aren’t they. They know so much about this country’s history. If only they knew how to run a motel that doesn’t stink and have bedbugs.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Thomm
  63. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Does the DOJ realize that there are 1.3 Billion Chinese and 1.2 Billion Indians and they all want to emigrate to the US? In fact there are 4 Billion people in Asia, and any one of them would drop everything to immigrate here if given the chance. There are only 320 million of us, including at least 20 million Asians. Most of the west coast from San Diego to Seattle already look like Chinese or Indian colonies, same goes for the east coast.

    If we don’t curtail Asian enrollment in our elite schools, soon they will all be 100% Asian. Is that what we want? Until we shut down further Asian immigration, this is just the way it has to be. It’s a sheer numbers game. They will overwhelm us in no time.

  64. @Jim Christian

    What do or did Japan or China ever invent, or do anything that was new other than copy and of course, re-engineer in its own name? Oh, and out-and-out steal the industrial secrets they needed from us?

    Or you can just google this question and find two wikipedia pages on this matter.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_mathematics

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_science_and_technology_in_China

    People like to scream left and right about “but China has no inventions!!!!” as if they have no google. This line of stupid ass arguments seriously needs to die. But no worries, keep on being enamored about how the Ancient Greeks were the only people in the world forever and ever to invent math and philosophy! FFS googling isn’t hard people.

    • Replies: @Thomm
    , @Anonymous
  65. @attilathehen

    Wow..The entire body of scientific works and discoveries, the medicine in the Orient is lost on you. Before the industrial rev, there wasn’t much the west did as far as science is concerned. And this is even before Muslims were a force to be reckoned with

  66. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Frank the Prof

    Scroll Down to “Patents per 1,000 children, by race and 3rd-grade math performance”

    Asian 8.2 per 1000
    White 3.6 per 1000
    Black 1.0 per 1000
    Hispanic 0.6 per 1000

    This is the US only.

    Many patents today are filed by the tech industry. If you work in tech you would know how ridiculous many of these patents are. Even the minutest design update can be filed for a patent, like a new menu feature or a new type of scrollbar. The companies encourage their staff to file lots of patents because it makes them look more innovative, it’s gotten out of hand. Who invented all the big stuff – the internet itself, planes, trains, automobiles, the air conditioner, refrigerator, computer, printer, toilet, sink, modern plumbing, cable TV, iPod, iPhone, iPad, modern roads, gas stations, skyscrapers — not the Asians!

    • Replies: @HogHappenin
  67. Here’s the deal: While East Asians (and we’re mainly dealing with Taiwanese and Chinese) have superior quant skills, they lag in verbal and creativity. Therefore, the Harvard brand would be sullied if too many Chinese engineers and code monkeys began to define the brand. Harvard really wants Zuckerbergs and Charles Murrays. Meanwhile Harvard is destroying its brand with the promotion of affirmative action blacks like Malia Obama.

    • Replies: @HogHappenin
  68. @Anonymous

    Wow.. each body of science was built on top of existing knowledge. read my previous reply. The industrial rev was built on top of very many existing fundamentals of science which, after the fall of the Greeks, was never really a western forte.
    Be it medicine, or the crafts, or metallurgy, Mathematics or paper, a very very large percentage of it originated in the orient. What were the Europeans doing when the Egyptians or the Chinese or the people in Baghdad were solving equations or building libraries or installing street lamps? Heck even a proper three course meal, regular bathing and coffee came to the west either from the near east or the far east (don’t know the specifics but you could always find that out)

    A lot of basic science was already out there before or by the time the Europeans came out of the dark ages. So before you go about disparaging the Asians, I’ve worked extensively in the Tech industry too, and I can vouch that there are many many smart Eastern Asians around (yes there are smart whites and Indians too but most Indians are also very cunning when it comes to moving to the top)

    • Replies: @WHAT
  69. @Meretricious

    I think much of it also has to do with the way things have turned out in the US. Too many whites want the easy way out. It is coming full circle. Secondly compared to the Chinese and especially the East Indians, mostly middle class whites are not as money hungry and a bit more content with their lot. I’m leaving out “white” Jews here as they are a bit different.

    Whereas Asians especially Indians are way way too motivated to acquire much wealth driven by the cultural norm there, especially among-st the upper middle classes in India. So while (mostly) the top tier whites are driven by absolute greed, the average Joe isn’t (all that much) when it comes to money. This is not the case with your average Indian. So you have a lot of them gravitating to STEM and now to the fields that the Jews excelled in. This is gonna get interesting. They have had money for a while now and now they seek power to go along with that.

    As they say:
    hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men and weak men create hard times

    • Replies: @Meretricious
  70. Truth says:
    @Art Deco

    Oh, I was unaware, Sorry.

  71. Hail says: • Website
    @Bill

    I don’t know about “No part.”

    Would a random selection from the phone book (if those still exist) be better?

    • Replies: @Bill
  72. @Priss Factor

    Now, the hindus… that’s another story. They tend to stick together more. There is less outmarriage, so their identity will remain more intact.

    My impression is they only stick to their little hindoo subgroups. With well over a billion of the blackassed basatards on the planet, these subgroups can be quite sizable, which can give a false impression of hindoo unity. Or at least of hindoo unity on a day-to-day level. Maybe they unite around the big issues – eg presenting a united front against whitey – but this disguises the million complexes their various hindoo identities suffer and which causes them to eye hindoo outgroups cautiously.

    • Replies: @Malla
  73. @Priss Factor

    I’ve said it earlier in my other comments and I’ll repeat it here. It is the Hindus who are probably the biggest competition to the Jews in their power structure in the US in the LONG RUN. They will play along the PC as long as it suits them and then after having taken a toe hold in almost all power wielding professions, they will inadvertently be placed in competition with the zios. Of course it’ll be more complicated in India which will try to play along with the zio empire and Russia but somewhere it’ll have to choose a side as the war intensifies and then it’ll get interesting. I think by that time, quite a bit of power in the US would be with Zionist dot people (think Nikki Haley, an ardent Zionist). So I think the people who run the circus in the US know that this is coming and perhaps that is why they are letting the lower rung of Jews get displaced to be taken over by the dots.

    • Replies: @Muse
  74. Thomm says:
    @random rand

    People like to scream left and right about “but China has no inventions!!!!” as if they have no google. This line of stupid ass arguments seriously needs to die.

    Remember that the egos of fragile White Trashionalists rest on the belief in two precarious fictions :

    1) Whites invented everything (while it is true that whites invented almost everything in the last 400 years, they were NOT the prime inventors before that).
    2) All whites are as good as the productive whites. In reality, white variance is extremely high, and the typical WN wigger has no more in common with successful whites than a chihuahua has with a Kodiak Bear.

    Plus, WN wiggers don’t know how to use Google, as you point out.

  75. @HogHappenin

    In my businesses I don’t worry about competition from Indians or Chinese. Whites still run things in most industries–the smart Asians are usually worker bees. The fact is, African, Caribbean and AAs are those responsible for Asian underrepresentation at places like Harvard. Chalk it up to the cost of doing business. Someone should do a documentary about the Malia Obama dilemma of the Ivy League

  76. Thomm says:
    @Anonymous

    False. I am a white guy who admires successful immigrants. I would take any type of Asian ahead of WN wiggers like you.

    Get a clue, faggot.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Anonymous
  77. Florin N. says:

    Distilled to its essence, ‘diversity’ is and has ever been a tool by which Jews, and only Jews, retained absolutely massive over-representation at top schools (and over-representation beyond merit… few don’t agree Jews would ‘naturally’ enjoy healthy over-representation)… at the expense of European-Americans and Asian-Americans, better qualified and eho would compete with them… while giving their seats to underqualified non-Asian minority students.

    For decades.

    This may have been the very purpose of a scheme which pretended to address socio-economic disparities while ignoring the ‘root’ of the problem, part of which is bad schools in poor hoods and part of which is cultural/ethical.

    Hollywood has been ‘kept’ Jewish for decades and everyone knows it and everyone is supposed to agree it is ‘hate’ to mention it… unless you frame it as ‘achievement’ rather than the hyperethnonepotism necessarily at play to keep a ti y ethnoreligious minority in, essentially, control of our entertainment and news media.

    Not many movies about the Palestinians’ sufferings… or about the barbarities of the Bolsheviks, are there?

    The top schools are dens of Jewish ethnonepotism, just as the ‘anti-White’ cult of ‘whiteness studies’ is nearly as Jewish as the neoconservative movement.

    • Replies: @Orwellian State
  78. Florin N. says:

    Well – Distilled to its essence, ‘diversity’ is and has ever been a tool by which Jews, and only Jews, retained absolutely massive over-representation at top schools (and over-representation beyond merit… few don’t agree Jews would ‘naturally’ enjoy healthy over-representation)… at the expense of European-Americans and Asian-Americans, better qualified and who would compete with them… while giving their seats to underqualified non-Asian minority students.

    For decades.

    This may have been the very purpose of a scheme which pretended to address socio-economic disparities while ignoring the ‘root’ of the problem, part of which is bad schools in poor hoods and part of which is cultural/ethical.

    Hollywood has been ‘kept’ Jewish for decades and everyone knows it and everyone is supposed to agree it is ‘hate’ to mention it… unless you frame it as ‘achievement’ rather than the hyperethnonepotism necessarily at play to keep a tiny ethnoreligious minority in, essentially, control of our entertainment and news media for decades… despite the Cult of Diversity dictum to otherwise ‘reflect the community.’

    Not many movies about the Palestinians’ sufferings… or about the barbarities of the Bolsheviks, are there?

    The top schools are dens of Jewish ethnonepotism, just as the ‘anti-White’ cult of ‘whiteness studies’ is nearly as Jewish as the neoconservative movement.

  79. @Thomm

    Get real dude, I would have rather Chinese than Indians any day. At least the Chinese don’t mind keeping to themselves. I have found that even if an area is massively Chinese – like say 75% – it’s still quite easy to find places – restaurants, clubs, bars – that are pretty much completely free of Chinese people. So their presence in an area doesn’t bother me as much as it otherwise would. (Of course, if I could press a button and make them all vanish, I’d do it in a heartbeat.)

    Indians on the other hand tend to infiltrate white settings to a much more disturbing degree. Unlike the Chinese, they can’t seem to take the hint that they’re not wanted. Even though they’re racially more similar to whites than Chinese are, they take way more offense at being rejected by white people. It’s bizarre how apeshit they go when they detect that whites don’t want them around. It’s like, what did you expect dude, I’m not gonna notice what a hindoo you are?

    And I haven’t even begun to talk about the myriad psychological complexes that stalk the Indian psyche. The Chinese seem blissfully free of these complexes. The fact that Chinese civilization has actual accomplishments under its built is probably a big part of this. Hindoos on the other hand can really only look around and wonder why they are so wretched and pathetic. (Blacks haven’t accomplished jack either, but they accept their lot more cheerfully than hindoos.) That’s why they cling to their ancient “philosophical” texts so tenaciously, because at least those occasionally have some interesting things to say, which people of other cultures can actually appreciate without pretending. (They were probably penned by authors considerably more racially Aryan than anything one would have found in India over the last thousand or so years, of course.) And I wouldn’t ordinarily say this, but I find hindoo demographic triumphalism so irritating I will say it – it really can’t be much joy looking in the mirror as a hindoo.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Meretricious
    , @Anon
  80. Reading these comments makes one very depressed. These old white retard racists do not understand the first thing about Nation. They don’t even understand the first thing about Race. And we don’t want to even mention the question of National Essence, or National Soul. Yeah right all Chinese and all Japanese are one big happy hardworking race. All Indians are the same. Germans and East Europeans and Russians are one singular race too aren’t they?

    America is finished. Woe.

    • Replies: @Thomm
    , @International Jew
  81. Thomm says:

    Hey, I am perfectly fine with every single immigrant to the US being Chinese. They are a high income group.

    White Trashionalists (aka wiggers) are just bitter that the fat bluehaired feminists are rejecting them. That is why WN wiggers are so bitter.

    Heh heh heh heh

    • Replies: @silviosilver
  82. athEIst says:
    @attilathehen

    The Chinese invented paper! In ~100 CE. Kept the paper-making process secret for a 1000yrs! Paper arrived(not invented) in Europe ~1200.

  83. @Anonymous

    Actually graduate unemployment in China is much higher than in the US. The Chinese may be doing more practical degrees, but there are just too many of them trying to get into similar types of numerate white collar work. East Asians in Anglo countries also tend to be even less interested in skilled blue collar works than whites, despite higher visual/spatial intelligence.

    In Australia and New Zealand for example, East Asians have higher academic qualifications than whites but somewhat higher unemployment rates. This is partly due to language barriers, but also has a lot to do with the conspicuous lack of East Asians in skilled blue collar jobs.

    • Replies: @unpc downunder
  84. @unpc downunder

    Actually, there does appear to be lots of students in China doing non-numerate degrees as well. And most good STEM majors do find work. However, overall there is still a lot more graduates than graduate-level white collar jobs.

  85. AaronB says:

    It’s ineffective in the long run to deny Asians the place in our university system that their scores should earn them, and the suggestion is based on a fundamental misconception.

    The main difference between whites and Asians now is in motivation – whites simply aren’t motivated to conquer the world anymore, Asians are.

    That being the case, any attempt on the part of whites to keep Asians out would bump up against this motivation differential, and is bound to fail.

    Whites simply won’t be bothered to really do what it takes to keep Asians out for the same reason they aren’t motivated to do what it takes to fill the ranks of our elite universities in the first place or eke out those extra few points on IQ tests – they simply don’t care anymore.

    It’s a perfectly normal movement in the cycle of nations. After empire, loss of interest in the “world”.

    Asians right now have to vindicate themselves for their humiliations of the past few hundred years, and we should not put obstacles in their way.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  86. SOL says:

    Yes, no mention of the favoritism for (((whites))) in this article?

  87. WHAT says:
    @Bragadocious

    Caltech, MIT, Berkeley and in part Stanford can be defined as tech-centric institutions, and everything else is there just for the networking(or should I say nepotistic homo shit). Asians, with their high IQs, understand well that they are not welcome with the networking crowds outside of token numbers, so they choose the actual work instead.

  88. WHAT says:
    @HogHappenin

    Next thing you`ll tell me it was actually Orient that came up with Newtonian physics and Mendeleev`s chemistry instead of pathetic bullshit like numerology.

    • Replies: @HogHappenin
  89. PISA investigations into levels of education indeed show that people in SE Asia show better results in science, real science, not gender studies etc., and mathematics.
    The asserted USA backwardness in weapons maybe is explained by this.

    ” If Harvard and other high-prestige universities practice color-blind admissions, therefore, Asian-Americans will be way over-represented, and way-way over-represented in fields like math and computer science.

    Betsy actually sees this:

    Asian-American students now win nearly half the places at California Institute of Technology, up from only a quarter in 1992. ”

    My conclusion is that there is no indication that there is race dicrimination.

    If the over representation of Asians is good for the USA, seen from the other side of the Atlantic it is.
    If WASP’s like it is another matter.
    ‘Real’ Germans resented the over representation of jews in intellectual occupations.
    To be tried by a jewish judge was not something all ‘real’ Germans liked.

  90. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    What about the notion of “managing” the problem at a private University vis- a-vis a state U? A tax paying parent has a right to admission for his qualified kid at UNH where that wouldn’t be the case at Dartmouth.

  91. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    Harvard, she says, is stonewalling like crazy. They haven’t delivered a single document. DOJ imposed a deadline of December 1st —which Harvard has apparently just (grudgingly) accepted (it’s trying to add a condition that “allowed government lawyers to look at the records only in the offices of Harvard’s lawyers, according to people close to the case”.

    Maybe Trump will issue an Executive Order protecting his Jewish buddies status as the dominant group at Harvard, since we all know that we must be subservient to our Overlords.

    The University of Israel’s Harvard campus has nothing to fear, even though the Chosen Ones have slanted admissions policy towards only letting Jewish applicants enter and the Tribe has taken over the administration and majority of professorships.

    We Americans must accept this educational Apartheid, and learn to live with less, so that our Jewish Overlords have more, just like the Palestinians have been doing for 70 years.

    Give it time, and it won’t hurt so much. In fact, you might come to enjoy your enslavement. And if you don’t, who will care?

  92. Z-man says:

    This article misses the point. Haaavard isn’t trying to keep out Asians it’s trying to protect ‘The Chosen Ones’ who would be most affected by Orientals, Indians and Pakis elbowing in. The White Christian male is definitely not the ones they are protecting.
    But I can see the argument as alluded in one of the posts I read (Fty-post 9) that the Anglo is getting what he reaped. Hopefully it’s the sold out Anglo to Zionist Empire that is crumbling. There are good signs of this in Hollywood and DC!

  93. Biff says:
    @Semper Fidelis

    Don’t blame the Indians – not there idea.
    Know your deciders

  94. Biff says:
    @attilathehen

    Cecil Rhodes said that any one born English was a lottery winner.

    Cecil Rhodes evidently has never tasted good food or lived in a decent climate, and at the same time had a penchant for high taxes, crumbling expensive empires, and a security complex to watch his every move.
    Did I mention the fat ugly women?

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  95. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Yan Shen

    “The most obvious manifestation of this is in the well documented East Asian tendency to skew towards STEM and away from the social sciences and humanities.”

    Yes, and here in Taiwan, the education is focused on STEM subjects. What’s being ignored is the driver, career success/money, plus, the preference for subjects where ability is most easily quantified, so that prejudice is minimized. If poets suddenly had the status and earning power of those skilled in STEM, east Asians would be writing sonnets.

  96. Malla says:
    @Anonymous

    I am Indian and I agree with you completely.

    However in ethnically mixed countries in Asia like Malaysia and Singapore, the Chinese who are much more entrepreneurial tend to be the business owners while the Indians either work for the Chinese, or are in criminal gangs and rob them blind.

    A rule of the universe, when dealing with browns especially mixed brown Caucasoids, the elites behave as Jews and the masses behave as gypsies. Akarlin called Indians a country of Gypsies ruled by Jews. That is one of the most accurate description of India and the subcontinent is general. But I can extend it to the Middle Easterners and North Africans too. Elite Indians, like those in the USA will hardly commit any blue collared crime and will be successful but will be cunning, nepotist, back stabbing, taking part in complex conspiracies, arrogant, corner cutting and will be more into White collared crime. The peasant stock will behave like gypsies and will be low IQ, cunning, nepotist, back stabbing, taking part in complex conspiracies, arrogant, corner cutting and will be more into Blue collared crime.They will remain the small shop keeper type or will fall into welfare and basically act as Mexicans with a lot of gangs and violence. Their neighbourhoods will resemble gypsy neighbourhoods of Romania.
    Indians in Malaysia and Singapore, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis in Britain and a good chunk of the Indian community in Canada are all peasant stock. Same with most of Algerians and other North Africans in France. Thus Gypsy behaviour.
    Most of the Indians in the USA, Britain and some of the Indians in Canada are mostly elite stock. hence Jewish behaviour.

    There are a few subcons who behave like White people, but they are a tiny tiny minority. Most of these tend to be successful professionals. They are mostly tasteful, honest, considerate, intelligent, basically first world people. But these types are a tiny tiny minority. Mostly Parsis or upper caste Brahmins or other upper castes, these Euro types are a tiny minority even in these castes. The typical Brahmin is more Jewish than Euro in temperament .

    • Replies: @HogHappenin
  97. Wade says:
    @D. K.

    Yeah I don’t know why the Derb doesn’t at least mention this aspect to the story. It would be the irony of ironies if the DOJ took some action against Harvard forcing them to make Asians 40% of the Harvard student body while allowing them to continue to discriminate against white Gentiles.

    What is happening to white gentiles in the US and the west in general is heartbreaking. Our own gentile leaders seems helpless to even address it. I wonder why.

    • Replies: @Simon's Blood
    , @utu
  98. @Frederick V. Reed

    Asians are good at getting into schools due to ‘culture crash(course)’, but grinds are just more diligent, not smarter.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFjOo00w-H8

    When Jews entered academia in big numbers, they had a major impact on culture and ideas, for good or ill.
    These Asians, in contrast, just parrot the official line set by others.

    Asians rising in ranks is bad for everyone.

    It’s bad for Asian community(and nations) since the western-educated Asian elites will not lead or serve Asians but just join the globo-PC privilege class and do the bidding of the Empire as its servitors. Look at Francis Fukuyama. Total servitor of Soros. Look at Amy Chua who raises her kids as Jewish. Ellen Pao married a homogro, and John Yoo defended torture. These are just as bad as white cucks.

    It’s also bad for whites since unimaginative and slavish Asian grinds focus on exams to take slots in academia while white gentiles are discriminated most in colleges that their ancestors built. It wouldn’t be so bad if Asians served historical America but they don’t. Since Asians are servile yellow dogs, they will serve the highest temporal power, and that happens to be Sorosian globo-homo-PC.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  99. AaronB says:
    @AaronB

    To expand on this, it’s well known that at IQ 130 and above, there are 8 time as many whites as Jews, yet Jews don’t exactly make up only one eighth of the various intellectual and professional classes.

    In many key fields, Jews are an astonishing two thirds!

    Obviously because of sheer numbers whites have the IQ advantage, but have pretty much given up the field.

    After empire, whites just aren’t motivated.

    Asians are about five percent of the population, and their one third of a standard deviation IQ advantage over whites should mean they at most should have ten percent of the positions in elite fields, yet they have much more.

    Obviously, IQ doesn’t have much to do with the distribution of whites, Asians, and Jews across elite fields in America.

    John Derbyshire says we should somehow muster the will power to keep Asians out. What he doesn’t understand is that if whites had that kind of willpower this wouldn’t be an issue to begin with.

    Whites would simply work as hard as Asians and Jews and naturally occupy the dominant position because of sheer numbers.

    If each group was equally motivated, whites would occupy something like 80% of all elite positions quite naturally and effortlessly.

    So John’a suggestions are just based on a misunderstanding. Guys like John and Steve Sailer are the high IQ leadership elite of the working classes. That strata of society doesn’t suffer from post-imperial fatigue because it never really had the chance to taste power and become disillusioned with it, so they haven’t had the chance to become decadent yet.

    But the white working classes simply don’t throw up enough high IQ individuals to create a new white leadership class that could replace the decadent old one which isn’t interested in power anymore, so the return to empire-phase that John, Sailer, and Trump are trying to bring about couldn’t really replicate the glories of old.

    It may be a metaphor, but nations really do follow a cyclical pattern like people do, they grow old and decline just like people.

    We may not know the mechanism involved at this point, but there is no denying that it’s s fact of history.

    Let’s not be the national equivalent of the old man who dyes his hair and hangs out at bars pestering girls.

    For the purposes of international harmony Asians need to vindicate their honor, and the sooner they do so the better for the whole world.

    Whites, who have nothing to vindicate, can return to the life of the Spirit.

    Whites brought the nightmare of modernity into the world, it would make sense if whites were the first to emerge from the nightmare and show the way out.

    • Troll: utu
    • Replies: @Orwellian State
  100. Wade says:
    @Yan Shen

    Where I’m less convinced is that curtailing immigration will somehow make everything all perfect once again. Given today’s increasingly global society, countries are competitively affected even by other nations far away. As the hysteria of Japan bashing during the late 1980s and early 1990s in America showed, bad feelings can arise even when the offending people live thousands of miles away from you.

    I agree with you 100%. I remember this. There were many Americans who lost income or were forced to change how they worked due to their business models being challenged by global competition.

    However, the case of the US falling from #1 to #2 or 3 on some economic metric or another is not so bad as long as there’s still an “us” left around to pick up the pieces and do it together. My wife whose been to Japan before talked with me just last night about how much more “racist” (she didn’t mean the term in a negative way) the Japanese have become, greatly distrusting outsiders, with the possible exception of Tokyo which is still somewhat hospitable to tourists. For example it’s not uncommon for them to get very annoyed when overhearing tourists speak aloud their European language within earshot. She put a positive spin on it by explaining, “the Japanese, though, are very proud of their country and their culture.”

    Indeed. We can learn to take pride in ourselves even if we are not #1 in every conceivable thing. One of our greatest obstacles politically I believe is that we don’t want to give up our supreme military dominance. I think we need to get out of the Middle East ASAP and start using our military and our resources more sparingly so we can regroup and rebuild at home. This is of course one of the cornerstones of a forward looking policy where the US looks more inward for efforts at self improvement.

  101. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @attilathehen

    Derbyshire is a pseudo-intellectual retard who went to a third-rate school. And his yellow fever is further affecting his limited and decaying brain. All of higher math was founded by white gentile males. Fermat, Fourier, Leplace, Boole, Lagrange, Reimann, Galois, Bernoulli, Cauchy, Pascal, Weierstrass, Descartes, Poincaré, Euler, Godel, Frege, … But hey, worker-bot orientals whose free time during high school is spent at SAT prep schools are the real geniuses because they can do well on the standardized tests which were developed by that proceeding group of (((intellectual middlemen))) to get into these same schools founded by white gentiles.

  102. AaronB says:
    @Priss Factor

    It’s also bad for whites since unimaginative and slavish Asian grinds

    Priss, do you find it curious that during the ages of greatest creativity for whites education was based precisely on rote memorization and slavishly grinding away?

    Only once creativity was palpably declining did people start wondering if we could boost it by getting rid of rote memorization and encouraging creativity explicitly.

    In other words, designing educational techniques meant to foster creativity is itself a response to declining creativity and an admission that that mysterious and poorly understood entity is fading away.

    Priss, you obviously want your group, whites, to become powerful again , but did you consider that you are only hurting yourself by denigrating effort and motivation?

    Jews and Asians are notorious for being slavish grinds, and they are wresting power out of the hands of whites, and curiously enough, when whites were slavish grinds they were at their most powerful.

    You are choosing to be emotionally comforted over facing hard cold facts when you affect such disdain for Asian grinds.

    It is defensive, and not an honest, painful staring of facts in the face and doing what it takes to change them.

    Constructing these little narratives about why Asian grinds aren’t really equal to whites as Asians laughingly wrest power out of your hands may be emotionally comforting but it shows the loss of the harsh and realistic self-criticism whites used to be so good at and which helped propel them to the top of the world.

    It’s emotionally incontinent. It’s like the Chinese complacently assuring themselves they were “really” so superior to those Western barbarians, only to have the ground cave in under their feet and their entire world collapse around them a short time later.

    • Replies: @peterike
  103. nsa says:

    Harvard and Yale student bodies are both about 25% jooie i.e. these traditionally wasp private institutions have morphed into vehicles for jooie dominance of the bovine white masses of asses. The author of this stupid article is simply using the low profile asians to make some goofy obtuse argument re race quotas …..proving once again that the vile brits are as self-serving as the even more vile jooies, and anything either of these outfits are promoting is not going to be good for working white Americans.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  104. @Art Deco

    No, the purpose is to find a collection of conceited cranks and provide them a forum to display whatever confusions are between their ears.

    No, the purpose of this website is to give a voice to the independent thinkers who hold views that are not necessarily aligned with the mainstream. I for one am very thankful to Ron Unz for the existence of this website. It is now my favorite website.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  105. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomm

    Lots of Indians love to claim that they are “caucasoids” or “Aryan descendants” therefore “white”. No one else but Indians buy it.

    You are white in your own imagination. You’re fooling no one.

    800 million Indians still defecate out in the open, and we need to rely on them to lead us into the future? What a joke! Indians are the bullshit artists of the east. The Jews only prop them up as CEOs because they are easily manipulated.

  106. How many Asians are there in the world?

    Over 4 billion.

    Which Asians do you think are managing to get citizenship in the US?

    The wealthy and smart ones.

    What happens when both children and their parents know that doing well academically can earn them a ticket out of whatever shitty country they hail from and to a new life in America?

    Giant industries emerge to provide students with the sort of training (e.g., SAT tutoring centers, international schools, home tutors who make up to $100 per hour) they need to outcompete others for slots in American schools. Wealthy parents pay whatever is necessary to make sure their kids get this training. Students spend their childhoods sitting at their desks until they develop blod clots in their legs to take advantage of this training (often regardless of whether they want to, thanks to their parents). At the same time, sophisticated and very profitable networks emerge for obtaining American passports for families who want to become American citizens or simply for children whose parents want them to become American citizens.

    This problem has nothing to do with Asians being smarter than Caucasians, as anyone who has spent significant time in Asian countries should know. It has to do with the selective immigration of some of the smartest Asians in the world from a staggering large pool of Asian students (over ten times the size of the US student population), many of whom have been preparing themselves to be the best university applicants they can possibly be since elementary school. They are willing to do whatever it takes to bring themselves (and their money) to America, and the American universities are more than happy to accept them (and their money), even if it means everyone else has to suffer. I’ve tutored and I’ve worked at both international and local schools in Mainland China for over a decade, and what I’m describing is what I witness every single day. It seems like almost all my wealthy students, most of whom are in middle or elementary school, have somehow managed to get American (or Canadian or Australian) passports despite having spent virtually no time abroad. Few of them can string together a grammatically correct sentence in English, but they’re already taking pre-pre-pre-pre-SAT courses for 600 RMB per hour and will be ready to take your kids’ university spots in a decade or so — after all, they have every right to do so as “American citizens.” I suppose the situation wouldn’t be so heinous if the vast majority of these students remained in the US for the rest of their lives after attending university there. However, family ties and government efforts (money, jobs, and status) to entice them back to China after graduation ensure that many of them will eventually return to China, which means the end effect is that American universities are choosing to educate China’s (and other countries’) “American” students at the expense of real American students because it’s more profitable for them to do this.

  107. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth

    If the “Derb” said you had a beautiful body would you hold it against him?

  108. Art Deco says:
    @Orwellian State

    No, the purpose of this website is to give a voice to the independent thinkers

    Schizophrenics are independent thinkers.

    not necessarily aligned with the mainstream.

    Rather fanciful notions which attribute all the trouble in the world to the State of Israel (pop. 8,000,000) are indeed outside the mainstream. Cannot imagine why.

    • Replies: @Anon
  109. Art Deco says:
    @nsa

    Harvard and Yale student bodies are both about 25% jooie

    [Drums fingers]

    https://sites.google.com/site/nuritbaytch/

    • Replies: @D. K.
    , @Ron Unz
  110. @Florin N.

    The top schools are dens of Jewish ethnonepotism, just as the ‘anti-White’ cult of ‘whiteness studies’ is nearly as Jewish as the neoconservative movement.

    Brilliant observation. Couldn’t agree more.

  111. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Art Deco

    Do me a favor; run down the list of article authors and tell me which ones “attribute all the trouble in the world to the State of Israel”.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  112. @Jim Christian

    What do or did Japan or China ever invent, or do anything that was new other than copy and of course, re-engineer in its own name?

    Well the Chinese invented gunpowder which the Europeans re-engineered in their own names to great effect.

    Japan went from being in feudal isolationism in a hundred years to being at the forefront of aviation 20 years after it was invented, landing planes on wooden aircraft carriers. All over the world, the Europeans had the Maxim gun and only them, and they never had to worry about colonial subjects getting guns because even when they eventually did get their hands on them, they still had to rely on Europeans to supply them ammo and couldn’t produce any themselves.

    Japan, both before isolationism with Portuguese and after it, would do that ridiculous thing that Europeans sometimes worried about but never happened anywhere else in the world in the whole colonial period – they would take apart the guns, copy the design and start producing their own.

    At the end of the isolation period the Japanese recapitulated European political history in the blink of an eye, going from a hereditary military nobility straight to a technocratic bureaucracy and from isolationism to empire fighting for control of the resources need to supply modernized militaries. Lightning fast adaptation.

    You can knock them for falling backwards technologically during the Japanese isolation period, but it is worth noting that while true isolationism doesn’t work, while it lasted it was known as the Japanese golden age.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_inventions

  113. @AaronB

    Whites brought the nightmare of modernity into the world, it would make sense if whites were the first to emerge from the nightmare and show the way out.

    It appears the enlightened liberals have found a way out for us all — through drugs, alcohol, rap, debauchery, deceit, narcissism, warmongering, open borders, homosexuality, gender confusion, identity politics, victimhood mentality, social justice, war on free speech, utter depravity.

    Once again God’s chosen people are here to lead us to the promised land.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  114. @D. K.

    Even Derbs premise falls short, forget meritocracy and fairness. The real world implication is that white nations become where the worlds elites thrive and whites become and underclass with no where to retreat to.
    It is not good for whites to turn over their nations to jews asians or the top .00001% of all the worlds races no matter what their merit based rating might be. White natins were built by and for whites if the world thinks it needs te united nations to open universities lets see if they can do it, so far the higher IQ jews and east asians cant create an entire nation universities included , we may have an edge that gives us the whole package. by allowing our universities to be universalties we in reality turn our nation also over to rule by non white graduates and of course they then run our nation for universalist cog elites. This is really unhealthy for whites, theres good reason to think it may be unhealthy for the world including jews and east asians. To them universalism is a scam they can exploit to us its a value. Now its true it may be a suicidal value or I think more likely its suicidal if we do not practice it from the safety of our own nation ethno state. In short whites are a good in the world when they are strong enough, but can not be that good if we are overrun.
    Even if ot turns out we are not so good that if allowed by our cog elite masters to again compete as one of a couple hundred other ethno nation states for our specific ethnic interests, well thats still righteous and fair, there’s no cosmic law that says whites must heal the world thats the jew law let them have at it.
    griffe du lion calculated that 2% american jews having 50% of wealth and power could be accounted for by IQ alone, I am a bit skeptical but am not up to his math skills maybe derb can comment. Point is east asians are no less tribal than jews and though the IQ edge is less they are going to far exceed 2% even without the black hispanic cutouts this puts whites at a huge minority in their own elites and two high IQ tribal groups ahead and worse our white cog elites are least capable of understanding the problem and dangers of this so its not even like we have a 20% white elite fighting like hell for white interests they are fighting like hell against white interests. Its of course simply incredible, and no one but Ivy league grads seem to be able to make any sense of it it just seems like suicide to te rest of us followed by the end of the world without us.But of course they harvard grads and Im a steamfitter

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Bach
  115. @Conor McGregor

    However, family ties and government efforts (money, jobs, and status) to entice them back to China after graduation ensure that many of them will eventually return to China

    If that is true our east and west coasts would not look like the Chinese and Indian colonies that they are. Unfortunately most do not return, they find every way to stay, even illegally. The only ones who could afford to move here are the corrupt elite and their offspring. Many lied in their applications and cheated in their exams to get into our colleges. Many colleges know this but turn a blind eye because they want the money, so they can continue to run wasteful programs like the Diversity Department or Center for Social Change. Most colleges today are run by Jews. The Jews like Jared Kushner are conspiring with corrupt Chinese and Indian elites to bring in mass numbers of Chinese and Indian nationals to enrich themselves and keep themselves at the top. The Asians know that America is for sale – by the Jews who run this country.

  116. peterike says:
    @AaronB

    Priss, do you find it curious that during the ages of greatest creativity for whites education was based precisely on rote memorization and slavishly grinding away?

    No. Creativity doesn’t appear in an empty box. To be creative/inventive, whether in science or the arts, you have to first know things. Preferably lots of things. Teaching via “rote” (a now-loaded term which really just means teaching facts) gives you the foundation on which to build.

    Similarly, “slavishly grinding away” — by which you mean persistence and resolve — is also necessary, whether it’s trying the 200th variation on your invention or the 50th revision of your novel.

    Only once creativity was palpably declining did people start wondering if we could boost it by getting rid of rote memorization and encouraging creativity explicitly.

    No. The move away from “rote” learning (i.e. sensible pedagogy) was entirely political, and designed to better inculcate students in “proper values,” i.e. progressive dogma. The Protestant loonies — Puritan types — actually started this mania a long time ago, which is why they invented public schools in the first place: to propagandize. They created the infrastructure that Jews so easily wrested from them to drive even further to the Left. Puritans are fanatical about causes, but as the 20th century rolled on, it was the Jews who came up with the causes. That’s how we went from, say, Prohibition to Feminism. One was very Protestant, the other very Jewish, but Puritans were on board for both.

    In other words, designing educational techniques meant to foster creativity is itself a response to declining creativity and an admission that that mysterious and poorly understood entity is fading away.

    You cannot “foster creativity.” That’s a giant lie peddled by the educrats. It’s also convenient, in that a teacher who is there to “foster creativity” doesn’t need to actually KNOW anything, doesn’t need to be educated or intelligent. So thousands of dopes get churned out with education degrees, a degree that verifies you have been taught a giant pile of lies and destructive nonsense.

    The result has been that students no longer receive a basic education — all that “rote” stuff — nor learn how to do anything — all that “slavish grinding” — and so they are empty vessels from which no creativity can spring. Even if you are naturally creative, if you know nothing your creativity has nothing to do.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Orwellian State
  117. renfro says:

    Asians eat cats and dogs….that tells you all you need to know about them….and their IQ.

  118. peterike says:

    1. Harvard should be allowed to admit anyone they want, for any reason whatsoever.

    2. The number of foreign nationals allowed into our universities should, by law, be exactly zero. Anything else is insanity.

  119. AaronB says:
    @Orwellian State

    Obviously, that’s not the way out of modernity, that is modernity. But you know that.

    We live in a world whites ushered into existence, and we all suffer for it.

    We have poor souls like Yan Shen tortured by the thought that Asians may not, after all, quite measure up to whites and spending hours on the Internet trying to prove to himself this isn’t true.

    You have guys like Priss seeing his people lose wealth and power and instead of facing the causes of this head on construct consoling narratives about unimaginative Asian grinds.

    All of this because whites created a materialistic world that only values wealth and power, so naturally everyone’s self esteem depends on how they measure up in this regard.

    Just as Asians have become infected with the mind disease of power, whites have grown disillusioned with it.

    Just as whites led the world into darkness, maybe they can now lead us into light?

    That would make a great deal of sense – the people who had the disease of materialism the worst, if they didn’t die from it, can now show us all the cure and the way out.

    It would also be karmic atonement for the past five hundred years.

    I predict the northern European people’s are on the brink of their period of great religious and spiritual creativity, once the hangover of materialism is over.

    Let the Jews and the Asians pursue their fevered dreams of power, whites have had more power than anyone else, and are no longer willing to be “slavish grinds” for its sake.

    • Replies: @Orwellian State
  120. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Bragadocious

    That’s the problem with Indians.

    They are forever trying to be honorary whites when they could not be more of an alien.

    Quit groveling so much and go back to your own country.

  121. Hu Mi Yu says:
    @Jim Christian

    What do or did Japan or China ever invent, or do anything that was new other than copy and of course, re-engineer in its own name?

    Gunpowder, rockets, porcelain, lacquer, silk, paddle-wheeled iron-clad ships, moveable type (ie printing), escapement mechanism (clocks), and the game of go for starters.

    try this link:

    http://afe.easia.columbia.edu/song/readings/inventions_timeline.htm

    Read Science and Civilization in China by Joseph Needham. It is a massive work with many photographs that will set you straight.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  122. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @silviosilver

    Hindoos are the most SJW group in the entire world. They have all the worst traits of Jews without any of the redeeming traits.

    The only thing they are good at is arguing and with an iq of 82 it is like talking to another species.

  123. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomm

    This is what larping looks like when you have an iq of 82.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
  124. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    God knows, we’ve been trying for decades, with essentially zero results. W e can’t make whites as smart as East Asians; Mother Nature’s standing in the way.

    Yet it was the gentile whites who founded all the most prestigious universities in the world. If the Asians are that smart, why can’t they open their own world class universities? Why are they all clamoring for our universities? Our founding fathers founded these universities to educate their descendants, not the descendants of foreign nationals! Let the Asians stay in Asia and go to their own universities. America does not need them. We have plenty of our own talents who are now disenfranchised and demoralized as they increasingly feel like foreigners in their own country.

    • Replies: @Winston
    , @Biff
  125. denk says:
    @Anonymous

    Neither the Chinese nor the Indians can be trusted. In that regard they are like the Jews. They all lack that integrity chip that governs most protestant whites. I wouldn’t say it’s because of Christianity. Most Catholics and blacks (who are mostly protestant) are equally untrustworthy.

    Tell that to the Apache chief Big horse,
    Whitey speak with forked tongue

    Or Josef Goebbels,
    The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.

    Incidentally,
    The Asian Indians tend to speak with knotted tongues,
    Apache Chief Big horse must be turning in his grave !

  126. Gapeseed says:

    We are just in the beginning of a long backlash against progressive rot in all of its forms. The Asians have not played a major role in this rot. In fact, if history holds true, they will in short order become honorary whites like the Irish and Italians before them. I think it’s happening now – just last night a Chinese attorney told me – soto voce – that she voted for Trump, and it was 50/50 among her family and friends. As the nation becomes more and more balkanized by race, the logic of voting with progressives who actively seek to disenfranchise them with affirmative action will look increasingly foolish to Asians, and the African-American voting bloc will find itself with scant company on a capsizing Democratic ship.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  127. AaronB says:
    @peterike

    I largely agree with your comment, but I don’t think Priss agrees. He brought up Asian hard work as if it’s a negative, which is strangely common among whites upset over the rise of Asians, and like to pretend their own rise was utterly effortless and not based on tremendous hard work!

    Anyone seriously interested in reversing white decline would immediately identify its cause in a radical collapse in motivation – an unwilling to do the incredibly hard work needed to gain and keep power, an unwillingness to “grind” – and not console himself with fairy takes of an effortless white rise without insane amounts of hard work.

    Of course, from my point of view I think it’s wonderful that whites are no longer willing to be slavish grinds for the sake of power, and I feel sorry for Asians and Jews.

    But if Priss has enough insight to realize that being a slavish grind sucks, he should understand what that really means.

    Also, I think the “creativity” movement only came onto the scene when creativity was drying up. If the system was still producing creativity no one would have thought it needed to be fixed.

    After that, it may have been used for propoganda purposes.

    So I differ with you on that, mainly.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    , @Thomm
  128. AaronB says:

    God knows, we’ve been trying for decades, with essentially zero results. W e can’t make whites as smart as East Asians; Mother Nature’s standing in the way.

    Sure “we’ve” been trying, but have the subjects of our efforts been cooperating with us, John?

    I guess we haven’t yet figured out a way to make people suffering from post-imperial fatigue regain the willingness to work tremendously hard, but I agree, that is indeed what Mother Nature intended.

  129. @AaronB

    What are you saying, that gentile whites are so enlightened they no longer care if their countries are being invaded and their cultures destroyed? The Jews who are in power are not content to just run the USA, they want to run the World, by taking control of the most powerful military in the world.

    One major reason why I voted for Trump was because of his promise of no more foreign interventions. Yet what did he do as soon as he came on board? He let the neocon Jews take over his foreign policy and is now trying to start wars everywhere. Not just the Mideast, Africa, Afghanistan and North Korea, a while back he was even talking about invading Venezuela. He’s turning out to be nothing but another Jew puppet. At least John Kerry had the balls to stand up to Israel. Trump’s entire admin bow to Netanyahu and kiss his ring. Nikki Haley is practically Netanyahu’s mistress. These evil Zionist neocons are robbing our future generations to pay for their warmongering.

    If gentile whites don’t assert themselves and take back their countries, they will soon lose it all because as soon as the Jews get their fingers on anything, they are sure to run it to the ground. They can’t help themselves. They will always succumb to greed and lust. Look at the rot in Hollywood, media, Wall Street, the DNC, the media coverup and this whole corrupt mess with the FBI/Clinton/Obama admin, the Jews have sold their souls to the devil, you want to let these people run your life without even putting up a fight? Meanwhile, the northern Europeans like the Swedes, Germans and the British are letting Muslims rape their women without even putting up a fight. Some are even advocating women should start wearing hijabs. Do you want the west to start looking more like India, China, Africa, Mexico, Guatemala, the Mideast and other 3rd world hell holes? What kind of enlightenment is this? Sounds more like capitulation to me.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @nsa
    , @utu
  130. lao gu says:
    @Frederick V. Reed

    China will never become the serious competitor to US, as long as the community party is in the power.
    You will know if you go to corrupted state-owned enterprises and the party controlled academic institutions. The party have depressed the creative of Chinese people and reduce IQ of his nation by indoctrinating youth with ideology of Marxism(the only ideological youth could gets), and punishing free thinking.
    there is another story when the barrier is moved.

  131. @peterike

    You cannot “foster creativity.” That’s a giant lie peddled by the educrats.

    How true. The Chosen who’ve been running our media, academia, Hollywood have been selling us depravity as creativity for far too long. Their rot is now finally being thrown out into the open. The emperor has no clothes. Meanwhile the educrats have equated all hard work with “rote learning” that hinders creativity and we ended up with generations of poorly educated, mathematically incompetent know nothing yet over confident “college” grads for 4 decades. The brain dead, hypocritical and morally bankrupt left are running western civilization to the ground.

  132. AaronB says:
    @Orwellian State

    What I am saying is that whites have *ceased caring* – they have no motivation anymore to do anything.

    The old goals, wealth, power – whites just can’t be bothered anymore, they’re disillusioned with all that.

    So whites are stuck in a rut.

    They let their countries be invaded and cultures destroyed because they feel they have nothing to live for anymore – power and wealth, that’s just not exciting anymore.

    Whites became more powerful than anyone else, there was nowhe else to go, nothing more to prove, it all came to seem pointless and boring and dull, and after the two world wars, even dangerous.

    Worse, life wasn’t fun anymore- it was all discipline and hard work, and for what? There was nothing left to prove, everyone had been defeated.

    Incredible emotional discipline and hard work was needed to keep all this going, and there just didn’t seem much point to all that sacrifice.

    Do you know how much sacrifice Jews and Asians make for their power and wealth? It is tremendous, but they still find power exciting, because they still have a lot to prove.

    Now this process is perfectly natural, what happened to whites is perfectly natural in the cycle of nations.

    It was even a foregone and guaranteed conclusion, and Jews and Asians will go through it too (Asians already did, in the past).

    In a hundred years people will marvel at how much power Jews wielded in our day, just as we marvel at the British Empire. Jewish power will be a dream of the past.

    Now, do you want gentile whites to assert themselves to take back their countries?

    That’s great, but how will you get them motivated, what will they have to live for? What will they make sacrifices for and work hard to achieve?

    Remember, you just won’t get whites caring about power and wealth anymore like they did in the days of the British Empire.

    Those old goals are now impossible for whites.

    To motivate whites you have to rediscover a vision of life that is motivating – mere self interest, mere HBD, just isn’t inspiring, hard work and sacrifice for science and power just isn’t exciting anymore….so what?

    I have my answer, but what is yours?

    • Replies: @Gapeseed
    , @OilcanFloyd
  133. MarkinLA says:
    @Hu Mi Yu

    A lot of those inventions died out and cannot really be considered the basis for modern reincarnations. ALL major civilizations had their golden ages and collapses where many of their advances were lost to time. Gunpowder was a real Chinese invention that goes directly back to China and spread to the rest of the world. The printing press and escapement mechanism not so much.

    This ridiculous attempt to find something in a long lost burial mound and claim that it shows that X really invented Y and not Z in order to take undeserved credit for something is ridiculous.

    • Replies: @Hu Mi Yu
    , @random rand
  134. @Thomm

    It must be sad indeed to be a hindoo, going through life lying to yourself for comfort. “White guys can’t get white girls!!!” the hindoo gleefully squeals, even though it happens in bars and clubs with humdrum regularity every weekend (often with a few envy-ridden hindoos leering salaciously from the sidelines for accompaniment). I wonder if hindoos ever ask themselves what they must have done that was so bad in their former lives to be reborn as hindoos in this one – must have been something ghastly, you figure.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  135. @Anonymous

    There is a characteristic pattern to their excitable protestations of being white. I’ve seen the same thing many times now, even from highly educated hindoos. The funniest part is often when they break and admit they’re just hindoos (yeah, cos you were really fooling me up to that point, lol).

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  136. MarkinLA says:
    @AaronB

    I largely agree with your comment, but I don’t think Priss agrees. He brought up Asian hard work as if it’s a negative, which is strangely common among whites upset over the rise of Asians, and like to pretend their own rise was utterly effortless and not based on tremendous hard work!

    I think the Asian grinder thing is that we want Asians to put more emphasis on things other than work so that we don’t have to also become grinders. It is just not in the nature of whites to want to become grinders and this open borders crap is forcing it on us.

    I have an Asian friend. He is a great father and highly industrious. His only problem, he is a multimillionaire who has no hobbies. Is he the norm, I don’t know. All his life he has worked to accumulate money – something he is very successful at. It is too bad he doesn’t know how to live.

    He started working in is brother’s restaurant when he was in college and bought his first house while still a student. He has accumulated millions in real estate holdings while holding down jobs as an engineer and middle level manager. He sold his properties just before the 2008 collapse and has bought many back since then. He quit work at 49 and lives off the rental imcome so has plenty of free time to indulge himself.

    His only trips are to visit family in Hong Kong or other relatives in the US. He may have taken one trip to mainland China. At least he doesn’t have a gambling addiction.

    • Replies: @Bach
  137. Thomm says:
    @silviosilver

    er… I’m an American white guy, you faggot.

    I am just impressed with the rapid success of Indian Americans.

    But I want more Chinese and Korean immigrants too. Any highly skilled immigrants will do.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @silviosilver
  138. AaronB says:

    I partially agree with you and see where you’re coming from, but let me make a few points.

    It is just not in the nature of whites to want to become grinders and this open borders crap is forcing it on us

    .

    This is obviously untrue. If you know anything about the 19th century German or British educational system you’ll know this is about ad untrue as can be.

    Historically, and quite recently, whites were just as much grinders as Asians. See the autobiography of John Stuart Mill for an extreme example.

    Today, whites are no longer grinders, because there don’t seem to be any goals worth grinding for.

    Now, I’m very sympathetic to you when you say you don’t want Asians to introduce their grinding ways into modern America.

    It’s s big problem, and one that whites had with Jews before.

    What do you do when you have a few groups with very different levels of motivation competing in the same space?

    But more than that, I am delighted with the fact that whites stopped being ambitious strivers and grinders, because I don’t see those values as being very important.

    Having large numbers of of strivey Asians and Jews around will only delay this country moving away from those discredited values and into something positive and happiness producing.

    I am pleased to see that you seem to agree that strivey ambitious values suck, and there’s better things in life.

    I’m somewhat opposed to immigration as well, but funnily enough, for the exact opposite reasons that WNs are.

    I don’t want our country to return to ‘greatness’ but to finally move on to something better.

    That’s why I’m actually happier to see Mexicans come in than super ambitious Asians, but I don’t think its too big of a deal.

    I am also against strife and discord, and in today’s multicultural climate, it’s obvious immigration leads to much hatred and resentment among all parties.

    It doesn’t have to be that way, and under better social arrangements we wouldn’t all be at each others throats like we are now, but for the moment, maybe we all need a separation for a while, although I personally have no problems with people of any race (although some have had a problem with me).

    I also see things as very much a catch-22 – whites will never stop immigration unless they rediscover some source of inner motivation, but if that happened, immigration would be much less of a threat anyways.

  139. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @silviosilver

    LOL what is the difference between Indians and whites?

    Indians think they are whites, but whites don’t think they are Indians.

  140. Thomm says:
    @Gapeseed

    The Asians have not played a major role in this rot. In fact, if history holds true, they will in short order become honorary whites like the Irish and Italians before them.

    Thank you. I keep pointing this out to the illiterate WN wiggers, but their ignorance of history knows no limits.

    This process is already underway.

    The funny thing is that whenever the population of ‘whites’ in America falls below 65%, the definition of ‘white’ gets expanded, as you correctly point out, to top up the white percentage above 80% again.

    This has already been done twice before (first with Irish, and later with Italians, Poles, and Jews). It will happen again with Asians and whiter Hispanics.

    At no point after 1820 has America been 90% white based on the contemporary definition of ‘white’ at the time.

    WN wiggers can’t grasp this, due to their low IQs.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @dcite
  141. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    Victorian Brits were not what I would call “grinders”, though they may have been so relatively to their modern counterparts.

  142. Truth says:
    @Thomm

    er… I’m an American white guy, you faggot.

    LMAO!

    Hey Homes, I believe you. A dot-head wouldn’t be so quick to F-bomb someone on a website. It would take a lot more aggitation. Hell it took Daniel Chieh a year to start cursing here.

  143. @Anonymous

    Which Anonymous are you? There are several. One is an anti-white Turk who finally outed himself, and then there’s another Anonymous claiming he’s a white man.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  144. @Biff

    What’s your angle? No one is perfect. But you have to admit the English empire was the greatest ever. What’s with the fat ugly women? The rumor is that Rhodes was a closeted homosexual.

    • Replies: @Biff
    , @Bach
  145. Gapeseed says:
    @AaronB

    As a Scot-German, I am cheap as all get-out, and my penny-pinching ways extend to my politics. That said, a serious space program designed with planetary settlements in mind would invigorate the imaginations of everyone, including whites. It would give many people a reason to grind.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  146. Make the student body of Harvard a majority of Chinese grinds and kiss your cachet goodbye.

    • Replies: @Bach
  147. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomm

    At no point will Hindoos be considered white or even honorary whites.

    Their iq is too low. It is an average iq of 82.

    Maybe you hindoos should try to be honorary blacks.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  148. Thomm says:
    @Китайский дурак

    These old white retard racists do not understand the first thing about Nation.

    My friend, you are right. Except that many of them are not old.

    But all of them are retards and untalented in other metrics beyond IQ (looks, character, artistry).

    The white race produces the best people, but that process generates waste matter, which has to be discarded somehow. The bottom 10% of the white race represents this waste matter, and these individuals are the wastebaskets that facilitate the removal of this waste.

    The men of this tier become White Trashionalists.
    The women of this tier become fat feminists.

    But they represent waste matter that is a necessary function of excretion to produce the other excellent members of the white race (the other 90% that you and I are from).

    That is why there is visceral disgust when one sees a fat feminist or WN retard. This is for natural genetic reasons. You are seeing waste matter when you see them.

  149. KenH says:

    As Kevin Macdonald wrote here at VDARE.com in 2004:

    Derb is mischaracterizing reasons for restrictionist immigration in the early 20th century. They opposed immigration from oriental nations because they couldn’t compete with coolie laborers who would work for far less than white Europeans. Similar to today’s unskilled and semiskilled white and other Americans opposing illegal immigration since it undercuts their wage scale. It wasn’t because they were intellectual dipshits and dullards who feared the oriental intellectual giants.

    That’s just Derb pulling a Fred Reed on us and building up the Asians as some kind of super race. People forget that Japan and much later China were barbarian backwaters until they opened their nations up to Western trade, influence and technology which to their credit they have skillfully absorbed. The technology transfer from the West to China the last 25 years or so has been mind boggling.

    Whites have a much stronger for discrimination in the Ivy League and Harvard in particular than Asians. Whites are 60% of the general population but only comprise 23% of the student body while Asians are 5% of the gen pop and comprise 18% of the student body.

    Asians don’t seem much bothered about the plight of whites so whites shouldn’t care about them. This is our nation, not theirs so cry me a river. They have their own racially exclusive nations. We don’t.

    It’s every race for itself these days and whites need to take their own side and not delude themselves into thinking they can make common cause with Asians over affirmative action.

  150. Thomm says:
    @Semper Fidelis

    Hey, faggot. Indians are the most successful ethnic group in the US, bar none :

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

    That is inconsistent with your narrative of a low IQ. Then again, WN wiggers don’t know how to read data, so the link I posted is incomprehensible to you.

    But I will settle for expanded Chinese immigration and zero Indians, just because both are equally effective in humiliating the WN wiggers who can’t compete.

    Remember, successful whites and even working class whites have no problem with skilled, legal Asian immigration. Only WN faggots do.

    Heh heh heh heh

  151. Thomm says:
    @Bragadocious

    Yeah I think Thommmm told me in another thread that Poles weren’t considered white in the United States before 1965.

    It takes 10 seconds to look this up, you ignorant wigger. Then again, you WN retards don’t know how to use Google, so you will always be ignorant.

    Polacks were not considered white in the past. Hell, even Archie Bunker hated Polacks.

    Get an education!

  152. Maybe more Asians — of the right kind — are what might save western culture. Who’s keeping Bach, Beethoven and Brahms alive? Just look at the faces and names of the kids who play in your local youth symphony (e.g. http://www.ecys.org).

    Of course the trick would be to bring in Asians who are interested in nontechnical fields such as classics and English.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  153. AaronB says:
    @Gapeseed

    Very interesting. I think you’re right, that would definitely inspire large numbers of people.

    It’s definitely a grander vision that HBD, genes, race realism.

    Have you noticed that so many right wing values are just glorified prudence? Prudence is fine, but it just doesn’t inspire.

    People will gladly sacrifice prudence, for a grand vision, and the Left offers that, Jews off that, in spades.

    The right just doesn’t understand that. Mere self-preservation just won’t inspire large numbers of people, and definitely not the best people. Even Nietzsche knew this much.

    That liberal white woman who gets mugged and defends her black attacker is willing to sacrifice safety if she thinks she is part of this grand narrative of moral progress, and look at what the Germans in WW2 were willing to sacrifice for some grand vision, however asinine!

    Basing white nationalism on HBD is bound to attract the worst people, as people who care most about their precious selves aren’t worth much.

    People want something slightly irrational and grandiose and universal, and staying alive ain’t it.

    But I wonder if we could base it on some grand romantic project to colonize space for the benefit of the human race?

    It would definitely attract a higher calibre of people than the canaille that hangs put at Vox Day, for example.

    But from my point of view it would be just another dream of power, and I couldn’t support it, myself.

    But you are onto something.

    • Replies: @Gapeseed
  154. nsa says:
    @Orwellian State

    Think of Trump as the Jooie Easter Bunny……hopping around leaving bright, gaudy, tooth rottingly sweet eggs for all the childlike groups the jooies control as a reward for their abject servility. A war in the Hindu Kush to appease the pentagon, moving the capitol of the USA from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem to appease the zio-chrissies, a bigly wall to appease the nativists, lifting of the inheritance tax to appease entrenched wealth, lowering the corporate tax to goose the dow for investors, keep interest rates low to lubricate commerce and the lower classes, twitter away to appeal to the techno narcissists, bad mouth the nfl goons to appeal to racists, hire on lots of senile VFW generals to appeal to patriots, etc, etc. And the sugary jooie eggs are out in the open and not even hidden……

  155. Thomm says:
    @AaronB

    which is strangely common among whites upset over the rise of Asians, and like to pretend their own rise was utterly effortless and not based on tremendous hard work!

    Remember that us normal whites have no problem with anyone rising up with hard work. Isn’t laziness the primary criticism of blacks? Isn’t that why the 10% of blacks who work very hard really make our day when we see them?

    Remember that White Nationalists are lazy and have Negro IQs, so all they want is intra-white socialism. They feel entitled to the fruits of hardworking whites. That is why WN economic views are so left-wing.

    The reason White Trashionalists hate Asian hard work is that it reminds them of their own inadequacies, and that the rest of us want to reward hard work, independent of race (ensuring Asians are more respected my mainstream whites than WN wiggers are).

    Essentially, WN wiggers are bitter that mainstream whites have a far more honorable value system than WN wiggers. Other than shared ancestry from Europe, WNs aren’t really ‘white’ in character.

    • Replies: @utu
  156. @Frank the Prof

    Not a good metric. Half of patents are overturned upon their first hearing in an actual court of law.

    The US patent system is so bad that you can basically patent your grandmother. There are a few famous cases of obviously impossible ‘inventions’ which still received patents, including a compression algorithm that was guaranteed to compress any input string without loss by at least 1 bit each time. Any fool could see that this is impossible.

    The greater number of patent applications by asians is also underdetermined by the theory that they have greater incentive in submitting patent applications. Whites, it must be said, are hopeless noncompetitive in terms of ambition these days. (non-jewish whites i mean)

  157. @silviosilver

    You know nothing about India or Hindu culture. Call your psychiatrist

  158. @Thomm

    “That is why immigration of Indians (from India) is crucial. India is still a poor country with many basic problems, but for whatever reason, Indians are THE most successful ethnic group in the US, bar none.”

    Good lord no.

    I don’t see any reason to believe that they are more successful than Ashkenazi jews. Usually those arguments rest on income, but truly rich people have trusts and corporations.

    I’d love for governments to release stats on medical insurance fraud (etc) by ethnicity. You’ll see Indians exponentially over-represented compared to other groups. They are a blight on societies that developed alongside norms of trust and fairness. Indians don’t give a crap about fairness or honesty. Their attitude is that cheating is okay, and if the system allows it, it is the system’s fault.

    Plus they have irresponsible reproductive rates and their women are butt ugly.

    • Replies: @Gapeseed
    , @Thomm
  159. Gapeseed says:
    @jbwilson24

    and their women are butt ugly.

    You are flat-out wrong here. Some of the most beautiful women I know are from India or of Indian descent.

  160. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @silviosilver

    Perhaps because you’re the only one hinting they’re not wanted?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  161. MarkinLA says:
    @AaronB

    Historically, and quite recently, whites were just as much grinders as Asians.

    Really, you think 1950s era American kids were grinders? Even in the mid 70s, when I went to high school, the SAT was just something that you showed up and took without any preparation and was a truer measure of your innate aptitude.

    Taking all these useless AP courses and SAT prep no longer make it a true representative of your innate aptitude which was its purpose for finding out who was smart but not so bookish.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  162. Thomm says:
    @jbwilson24

    Usually those arguments rest on income, but truly rich people have trusts and corporations.

    The only uniform metric we have is income. Indians also have the highest incidence of graduate degrees in STEM. We don’t know that they don’t have trusts and corporations.

    I’d love for governments to release stats on medical insurance fraud (etc) by ethnicity. You’ll see Indians exponentially over-represented compared to other groups.

    Maybe. We need to see the stats.

    Plus they have irresponsible reproductive rates

    I think the reproductive rates of Indians in the US is just 1.5 or so. I never see a family here with more than three children. One is just as common as two.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  163. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @attilathehen

    Which Anonymous are you? There are several. One is an anti-white Turk who finally outed himself, and then there’s another Anonymous claiming he’s a white man.

    My guess is that there are more than two Anonymouses. But between the two options I’ll go with the one claiming to be a white man.

  164. Gapeseed says:
    @AaronB

    I definitely agree about your take on conservatism equalling prudence. Eating your vegetables definitely does not inspire when others are offering cake and ice cream.

    To be blunt, what this country needs is a Space Race. The best thing that could happen to the United States is a Chinese/Japanese/Indian lunar or Martian colony. It would be a kick in the pants and would wipe away the navel-gazing ennui we are mired in.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  165. D. K. says:
    @Art Deco

    Ah, my (and Mr. Unz’) good friend, Nurit:

    http://www.unz.com/runz/asian-quotas-in-the-ivy-league-we-see-nothing/

    I have been waiting years for her to return to enlighten us further….

  166. Ronnie says:

    I just wanted to point out the obvious. In Ron Unz’s original articles and elsewhere it is clear that Jews are given about 25% of the places at Ivy League schools. Even when I was at Yale in the early seventies this was the case. If you speak about it you are scorned, called a racist and then systematically punished. So, out of the so-called “white” group, a majority of the students are Jews. The problem that Harvard is trying to conceal is that the Asians outscore and outshine the Jews who get the places. The Jews are selected because they are Jews – also, those average Jewish students sometimes have fathers who make million dollar contributions. This fact is never mentioned because the punishment for saying so is severe, no kidding. It is the elephant in the room in many areas of endeavor (media for example) in the USA. It is an amazing situation that is not discussed in polite company.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  167. AaronB says:
    @MarkinLA

    No, no, I meant much earlier. By the 1950s whites weren’t interesting in doing much.

    I was just reading the autobiography of my favorite writer on Buddhism Edward Conze and he was saying how he simply couldn’t teach it to English people in the 50s because they were unwilling to memorize anything or accept any discipline.

    He also gives a fascinating account of how standards collapsed in Britain across all fields, things just couldn’t get done anymore.

    I completely agree with you that the SATs don’t mean what they used to, and definitely there is little meaning to the modest differences one often sees between some groups.

    I also don’t think IQ means what it used, and the smallish differences one sees betweem groups can’t really be used to base these sweeping generalizations on.

    But humans love to rank.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    , @Ringo
  168. AaronB says:
    @Gapeseed

    It certainly would, I agree with you there.

    Whites have grown complacent and are living on their inherited intellectual capital.

    But I cannot share your enthusiasm because I believe the way out is through, and whites should turn away from quests for power once and for all and focus on discovering a happy way of life once again – i.e return to religion in some form.

    • Replies: @Gapeseed
  169. nebulafox says:
    @Thomm

    >I think the reproductive rates of Indians in the US is just 1.5 or so. I never see a family here with more than three children. One is just as common as two.

    Many of the first wave of South Asian immigrants (here and in Canada) in the 70s and 80s. had 5 or 7 kids apiece, yet their children invariably only had one or two. However, current South Asian emigrants start out at 2 or 3. I suppose you can attribute that to the different profile of migrant that comes over with India’s economic progress. Nowadays, getting dual citizenship or residency for your kids overseas in China is “something you do” if you are upper-middle class, and I’m guessing its similar in India.

    @Gapeseed

    My thoughts exactly. The rulers of the United States wouldn’t *dare* gut scientific research, border security, and health care to fund corporate tax cuts if the Soviet Union were still around. Besides, the world really is a safer, more stable place with more great powers.

    So, how can we re-create the positive aspects of the Cold War, in a multipolar, 21st Century version, while avoiding the negative aspects, such as constant paranoia about nuclear war?

    • Replies: @Thomm
  170. Thomm says:
    @Ronnie

    The problem that Harvard is trying to conceal is that the Asians outscore and outshine the Jews who get the places.

    This is true, but one must mention the exceptionally high proportion of Jewish men marrying Asian (Chinese and Indian) women these days. Jewish men don’t want Jewish women.

    Hence, these two groups are slowly merging.

  171. Thomm says:
    @nebulafox

    Many of the first wave of South Asian immigrants (here and in Canada) in the 70s and 80s. had 5 or 7 kids apiece,

    I have never, ever seen such a family, even in that generation. You have to provide data to back that up.

    The earliest Indian immigrants (in the 60s and 70s) were, if anything, more educated than the ones now. There was no H1-B then, remember. They were all PhDs or MDs.

    Plus, Pew recently said that 87% of Indian adults are immigrants and only 13% are 2nd generation. If what you said were true, that would not be the case).

    I think you are confusing Arab Muslims with Indians.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  172. Ronnie says:
    @Hail

    Is Jared Kushner our “natural aristocracy” ? An average student whose family reportedly made a large financial contribution to Harvard.

  173. Hu Mi Yu says:
    @MarkinLA

    Gunpowder, rockets, porcelain, lacquer, silk, paddle-wheeled iron-clad ships, moveable type (ie printing), escapement mechanism (clocks), and the game of go for starters.

    A lot of those inventions died out and cannot really be considered the basis for modern reincarnations. ALL major civilizations had their golden ages and collapses where many of their advances were lost to time.

    It is amazing how many of them were reinvented in the West after Marco Polo popularized the journey.

    I left off the cannon and noodles. They must have died out, because artillery is no longer used, and no one eats pasta.

    I suppose you never studied LA history, so you wouldn’t have learned that pre-Hispanic Los Angeles was named Yang Na (¨Sunnyside Village”) after a homonymous village in China.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    , @MarkinLA
  174. nebulafox says:

    “We can’t make whites as smart as East Asians; Mother Nature’s standing in the way.”

    Wrong. IQ is not set in stone, least of all over the course of generations. Culture is a tricky thing to change, and impossible to change overnight without extraordinarily nasty side effects, but it can be done. China faced a pretty rough stretch in the 1800s and 1900s where I rather doubt the average IQ was as high as in Europe, or after the Meiji Restoration, Japan. Hunger, illiteracy, ignorance, religious radicalism everywhere, and many of the highest potential people left fled abroad. Not to mention such lovely cultural practices like foot binding. Matter of fact, Germany during the Thirty Year’s War was a similar dysfunctional mess, with a political structure that makes Africa today look mild and enlightened by comparison. Germans in the 1600s definitely did not have their later Prussian dominated stereotypes for order, efficiency, and extreme academic success. (The Peace of Westphalia would spell the long-term doom of feudalism thanks to the rise of the nation-state curbing the abilities of individual lords to impose their capricious whims… which is why, no doubt, our oligarchs want to erase the concept completely, but that’s a different topic for a different time.) I doubt that average IQ there was as high as in France or China under the Kangxi Emperor, let alone Renaissance Florence, or even the Aztec Empire a century earlier.

    (OT: You’d see highly economically successful German ethnic enclaves all across Eastern Europe much as you’d see Chinatowns in Southeast Asia before the World Wars. They show up in Dostoevsky’s books all the time-the Russian slang word for “foreigner” for centuries was “German”, so commonplace they were.)

    Leaving aside my complete disagreement with the article’s conclusions (yes, I’d darn well prefer a Chinese or Indian physics genius to some “pure stock” methhead in rural Indiana as my choice for America’s gene pool, not least because that means he’ll be working for us rather than them in the race to utilize the human genome or implement high-Tc superconductivity or going to Mars or whatever if we play our cards right), let me throw out a cynical bone here: I think forcing Harvard to admit strictly by merit-which would flood it with The Wrong Type Of Minority-would takes its “prestige” down a peg among the bien-pensants who are really at the root of America’s problems. So, wouldn’t that be a better thing?

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Orwellian State
  175. What “demand Hardfart hand over records”???? How much Federal money does Harvard get? The answer: tens of millions a year in grants, research, etc, etc. Simply make it a quid pro quo: no records, no money. The man with the money calls the tune, unless it is Gummint Incompetency Loony Tunes.

  176. @Conor McGregor

    How many Asians are there in the world?

    Over 4 billion.

    we need borders

    • Replies: @norse nestor
    , @Biff
  177. nebulafox says:
    @Thomm

    My former roommate. A very kind older gentleman (I don’t know when exactly he emigrated, but it had to have been at least before 1992, from our conversations) who worked as a computational physicist, was born in Pakistan, Canadian citizenship, 8 fully successful adult children. Devout Sunni Muslim, but still South Asian. It did happen.

    >I think you are confusing Arab Muslims with Indians.

    OT: but you should hear him talk about the Saudis-loathes them. His brother works there, and they treat the subcontinental laborers awfully. Sadly, however, a lot of Pakistanis openly try to push the ludicrous idea they are “really” descended from Arabs.

    More on topic, I readily admit that for Hindu migrants from the 70s and 80s, it might be different. I can’t say. All the Indian-Americans I knew in college were my age and came from the usual 1-3 kid households.

  178. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    I also see things as very much a catch-22 – whites will never stop immigration unless they rediscover some source of inner motivation, but if that happened, immigration would be much less of a threat anyways.

    We tried, that’s why we elected Trump, who instantly cucked out. The Jews got him by the balls, even married into his family. They want their open borders because a multicultural society is “safer” for the Jews, never mind if it turns the country into an ungovernable mess — dilute the white power, divide and conquer.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  179. @AaronB

    Historically, and quite recently, whites were just as much grinders as Asians.

    This is true. Even up through the 90′s, we would always read about this thing called “Protestant work ethic”. Now our kids are being told in school that saying “you can succeed in anything if you work hard enough” is racist.

  180. AaronB says:
    @nebulafox

    Much of what you say is very true, and I often use the case of Germany myself to show that so called “natural aptitudes” are in constant flux.

    How is it possible to think IQ is set in stone when we have so much evidence it is constantly changing?

    I am trying to get at the root of why it’s so important for some people to see their current situation as expressive of eternal laws.

    Do they lack any historical sense? It’s a very peculiar way of thinking which is very hard to maintain in the face of reality, but it’s very hard to budge in those who suffer from this strange delusion.

    The best I’ve been able to figure out is that this kind of mentality craves certainty, predictability, and control.

    A mysterious world in flux that you can’t pin down terrifies them.

    They like reality “dead” and unchanging because it reassures them.

    Do you have any insights into it?

    I had a friend who would freak out whenever I mentioned the world is full of mystery. He was heavily into science.

    When I mentioned to my sister that the gravitational constant, apparently changed during historical times and the laws of physics might not be immutable, she was frightened.

    In some ways this mentality lies st the bottom of science, but science properly understood does not in any way support this mentality.

    Derbyshire is an old man set in his ways. He developed a schema that only partially maps onto reality and no longer has the flexibility to consider new data or alternative perspectives.

    And of course, he is heavily into science and “rigid” ways of thinking, like math.

    But if anyone can shed some light onto this highly strange but all too common way of thinking I’d greatly appreciate it.

    Is it just a symptom of the senescence of our scientific civilization, where the root motivation behind science – desire for predictability – bursts out of all reasonable bounds and is carried to absurd lengths?

    Is it that as the edifice of science is crumbling and uncertainty is returning mystery to the world, the old guard doubles down?

  181. Gapeseed says:
    @AaronB

    whites should turn away from quests for power once and for all and focus on discovering a happy way of life once again – i.e return to religion in some form.

    As a practicing Catholic, I certainly agree with you. But I think the two strands can be merged – the heroism and sacrifice needed for a space effort will inspire – and likewise be inspired – by religion. Think New World exploration. I want to live to see a church on the moon – Our Lady Queen of Heaven is my working title. Let’s make it so.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  182. srsly, world was fine with them
    we all got along without problems

  183. @nebulafox

    I think forcing Harvard to admit strictly by merit-which would flood it with The Wrong Type Of Minority-would takes its “prestige” down a peg among the bien-pensants who are really at the root of America’s problems. So, wouldn’t that be a better thing?

    Having these pompous institutions knocked down a peg or two in prestige would certainly be a good thing for America. However, Ivy educated Asian-Americans are the staunchest supporters of affirmative action. As an Asian-American I used to think they were dogs drinking too much of the Kool-aid but now I agree with them, albeit for different reasons.

    The Kool-Aid drinking Ivy educated Asians will always tell you that AA is necessary because blacks and hispanics are the oppressed, and that Asians “have it easy” in comparison even though many Asians grew up with parents working at the Dry Cleaners or restaurants grew up just as poor. They also want to stand out more. Harvard grads of East Asian descent make the most money after graduation, while blacks the least. Employers know the Asians are the cream of the crop while the blacks are AA admits. If Asian enrollment doubles, it would dilute the gene pool, the Asians won’t be as special.

    I support AA for a different reason. I want our elite schools to admit fewer Asians because it appears many of the Asians who went to elite schools invariable turned into the biggest progressivetards, like Ted Lieu, Theodore Chang, Derrick Watson. These libtards are doing their parts to destroy the US as told by their deviant Jewish masters. We don’t need more well indoctrinated fucktards like these dogs. They make me look bad. It would be wonderful if elite schools simply ban all Asians from attending. Fewer Asians will want to immigrate here, and fewer of those here will be indoctrinated into progressivetards and we will all be better off.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
    , @Bach
  184. @Anonymous

    Derbyshire went to Imperial College, London. If you think that’s a “third-rate school” you are ignorant.

    It easily makes any world top-ten list and is #2 in the U.K. for STEM, ranking behind only Cambridge. It easily ranks above Dartmouth or UPenn.

  185. MarkinLA says:
    @AaronB

    By the 1950s whites weren’t interesting in doing much.

    Yeah, after 1950 white males just stopped inventing anything, even this computer I am typing on.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  186. Winston says:
    @Anonymous

    Cambridge and Oxford were way more prestigious than Harvard 100 years ago. Harvard now is the most prestigious university in the world because the US is still the only superpower. The US can remain as the superpower only because it attracts the brightest and ablest from all over the world.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
  187. @Thomm

    This is true, but one must mention the exceptionally high proportion of Jewish men marrying Asian (Chinese and Indian) women these days. Jewish men don’t want Jewish women.

    That was the 90′s. Things are different now. Jewish men are increasingly marrying black women. Of course Jewish women have always loved black men. Most black-white marriages are between black men and Jewish women.

    • Replies: @Malla
  188. MarkinLA says:
    @Hu Mi Yu

    Did you think nobody would notice you cutting out the part about me giving credit for gunpowder to China while you babbled something about artillery? As for Marco Polo, other than noodles, what did he bring back that we are supposed to give the Chinese credit for? Yeah, yeah, the abacus started the whole computer revolution.

  189. pyrrhus says:
    @D. K.

    If you look at objective measures, i.e. SAT scores, you will find that whites are highly discriminated against, while asians are somewhat discriminated against. Major beneficiaries are Jews, who use power and money to get in above their numbers, and other minorities, who benefit from liberal tokenism. Fortunately, Harvard’s curriculum is now so watered down that students would learn more at many top State universities….Of course, what students really want is a piece of paper with Harvard’s name on it so they can get no-work jobs in Government or corporations…

  190. AaronB says:
    @MarkinLA

    Mere elaborations of already existing knowledge.

    There is a time lag before all the possibilities of previously discovered knowledge are exhausted.

    • Replies: @Anon
  191. MarkinLA says:
    @Hu Mi Yu

    I suppose you never studied LA history, so you wouldn’t have learned that pre-Hispanic Los Angeles was named Yang Na (¨Sunnyside Village”) after a homonymous village in China.

    Sorry but although there is a story about a great Chinese fleet that sailed in the 1400s, it seems they went west and not east. Since they never became a great maritime power, what does that say about Chinese intelligence?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zheng_He

    Even this story indicates supposed sunken ships in the Carribean. Why haven’t they been excavated? Maybe this is just BS by a con man.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/1386655/Explorer-from-China-who-beat-Columbus-to-America.html

  192. @Wade

    Do you ever think that we’re (white gentiles) being put through a crypto-eugenics program? I find it’s a comforting thought. It would mean that our leaders aren’t the evil scum they seem to be. Maybe there are just too many White gentile idiots and our leaders are helpfully shearing them off (opiod crisis, blue collar job loss). Future generations of White gentiles will be better off for it and will see our current hated politicians as heroes.

  193. Rdm says:
    @Yan Shen

    hahahahaha…. such a naive thinking.

    John Derbyshire talking about restriction on US immigration and you think if such a policy is executed, there would be a sweeping immigration changes across the entire globe?

    Dude, Derby voted Trump to kick Muslim out of this country, not to ban his ilk alike coming to the US.

  194. Rdm says:
    @attilathehen

    Dude,

    English and French fought war. This gave Spain and Portugal to invent something. But they didn’t. They colonized the Latin America.

    Germany and Italy had to deal with Ally. This gave Netherlands and Belgium to invent something. But they didn’t.

    Before industrial revolution, a lot of discoveries and inventions are basically Philosophy where you don’t need a physical labor. After that, everything changed. Money talks.

    You can’t sit your ass all day long, preaching some mumbo-jumbo and become another Confucius or Sun Tzu or Mencius these days. You need to prove your worth by some physical and intellectual labor these days.

  195. Art Deco says:

    The Oriental and East Indian set accounts for 5.3% of the population of those between their 20th and 25th birthday. About 6.8% of the baccalaureate degrees awarded each year are awarded to this group. Good but not spectacular. The share they occupy in coarse categories of study is as follows:

    [MORE]

    15.4%: Biological and biomedical sciences
    14.6%: Precision production
    11.4%: Computer and information sciences
    11.4%: Engineering
    10.5%: Mathematics and statistics
    9.7%: Physical sciences and science technologies
    9.2%: Architecture and related services
    9.1%: Area, ethnic, cultural, gender, and group studies
    7.6%: Social sciences
    7.3%: Health professions and related programs
    7.0%: Business
    6.8%: Social sciences and history
    6.8%: All fields, total
    6.2%: Psychology
    5.9%: Visual and performing arts
    5.7%: Multi/interdisciplinary studies
    5.7%: Foreign languages, literatures, and linguistics
    5.6%: Communications technologies
    5.3%: Family and consumer sciences/human sciences
    5.2%: Philosophy and religious studies
    4.1%: Engineering technologies and engineering-related
    4.1%: Parks, recreation, leisure, and fitness studies
    3.8%: Communication, journalism, and related programs
    3.8%: English language and literature/letters
    3.7%: Legal professions and studies
    3.7%: Mechanic and repair technologies/technicians
    3.6%: Agriculture and natural resources
    3.6%: Transportation and materials moving
    3.4%: Liberal arts and sciences, general studies, and
    3.1%: History
    3.0%: Public administration and social services
    2.4%: Homeland security, law enforcement, and
    2.2%: Theology and religious vocations
    2.1%: Education
    2.0%: Construction trades
    0.7%: Military technologies and applied sciences

  196. Biff says:
    @Anonymous

    All of higher math was founded by white gentile males.

    That would be Islam in the sixth century AD. Algebra is an Arab term, and so is the concept of zero.

  197. Biff says:
    @norse nestor

    we need borders

    Sorry, I already left.

  198. @Orwellian State

    they support it because they are already “in” why rock the boat if you are already in? :) all their descendants will have priority in admission :) it is why Mr. Unz’s harvard talks fizzled out over this very issue. those already in or benefiting from the current rules, why would they want to destroy the rules?

    ask the asian students who were turned away because of the current rules :)

    people need to read up about the this issue before commenting.

  199. Biff says:
    @Anonymous

    The oldest universities in the world are in Asia – Turkey and Iraq respectively.

    • Replies: @Thomm
    , @attilathehen
  200. Thomm says:
    @Biff

    Oh, all of the 5-6 oldest in the world were in Asia. Not just those two.

    The oldest in Europe was in Italy. Northern Europe didn’t have universities until much later. Remember that Julius Caesar considered only Persia and India to be societies equal to Rome (he didn’t know about China). He considered northern Germanics and Britons in the most derogatory terms (much like how white nationalists describe blacks). He hated them as sub-humans.

    But no amount of facts you present will persuade these White Trashionalists, since their views are based entirely on emotion and insecurity. Remember that they have nothing in common with successful, intelligent whites. They just want to take our hard-earned resources as parasites.

    For example, this chart indicates how China + India were always about 50% of world GDP until the 19th century. After a decline, they are rapidly recovering back to this level, which arguably is the long-term norm.

    But no White Trashionalist will agree with this irrefutable evidence. In fact, since they don’t even know how to read graphs and charts, they cannot even understand this chart.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  201. geokat62 says:

    There: I just said it again. We’ve foolishly, heedlessly made a mess for ourselves with these decades of mass immigration.

    Now there are two things we have to do:

    One: We have to manage the mess as best we can.
    Two: We have to stop making it worse.

    Actually, there are three things we have to do:

    One: We have to clearly and undauntedly identify who the “we” is in your sentence “We’ve foolishly, heedlessly made a mess for ourselves with these decades of mass immigration.”
    Two: We have to manage the mess as best we can by calling for the immediate repeal of the Hart-Celler Act.
    Three: We have to stop ((them)) from making it worse

    But you already knew all this. But, for some reason, you are unwilling to admit it. Might this be the reason why:

    Yes, indeed I was, and am, “afraid of offending Jews.” Of course I am! For a person like myself, a Gentile who is a very minor name in American opinion journalism, desirous of ascending to some slightly less minor status, ticking off Jews is a very, very bad career strategy. – excerpt from Wrestling with Derbyshire’s Law, a dialogue with Joey Kurtzman:

    http://jewcy.com/post/wrestling_with_derbyshires_law

  202. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Another hindoo.

    This comment section is a perfect illustration of why we don’t want more Indians.

    Look at all of them sock puppeting to push for more hindoos to come to America.

    That’s why Singapore caps your race at a percentage, because you guys are like a cancer on any society you touch.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @silviosilver
  203. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Well, logic is weakening on you. If there are a lot of them, they aren’t sock-puppeting, and if they are sock-puppeting, there aren’t a lot of them.

    And, aww, does oo need a widdoo safe space? (Try Harvard).

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  204. Biff says:
    @attilathehen

    What’s your angle? No one is perfect. But you have to admit the English empire was the greatest ever. What’s with the fat ugly women? The rumor is that Rhodes was a closeted homosexual.

    I don’t have to admit anything – the pommie pack wasn’t all that impressive.

    I was comparing the fat(American) ugly(white) women with that of the slender attractive more intelligent Asian women – it’s no contest.

  205. Ringo says:
    @AaronB

    “By the 1950s whites weren’t interesting in doing much.” ????

    “Uh, Houston, Tranquility Base here, the Eagle has landed.”

    • Replies: @AaronB
  206. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    Not a computer engineer, eh?

  207. Muse says:
    @HogHappenin

    My observation is that at low to moderate rates of immigration, high IQ Hindu immigrants assimilate well and are a net plus. I would bet based on my observations that second generation Hindu immigrant children are marrying out of their groups at a rate around 65-70%, and from a values stand point they seem make good citizens. Within four generations I would expect them to be fully assimilated.

    I don’t believe any low skill, low class Hindus or any other group should be allowed in the country because this hurts the working class too much.

  208. Thomm says:
    @Biff

    I like the cut of your jib. Particularly the way you put that uppity yenta Attilathelen in her place.

    She does not even know that Atilla the Hun was of an Oriental appearance, and not Caucasian by any definition of the term.

    • Replies: @HogHappenin
    , @attilathehen
  209. @WHAT

    I think your reading skills are a bit crusty as I see. Again, what you mentioned are from the 17th and the 18th centuries. Show me something from say the 7th or the 8th centuries, akin to something that changed the course of humanity like Gunpowder. or paper-making, dye printing, the abacus and we’ll talk.

    I’m not Chinese either but accepting facts doesn’t hurt. Forget the Chinese, heck even Baghdad had proper lamp posts and a pretty good planned urban-scape in the 11th century when the Europeans where burning witches and practicing wizardry.

    But like they say, every Dog has it’s day and the western man has been dominating the world economically, militarily and in the last century even culturally from the past 400 years but may now be coming full circle due to the imperial overstretch of it’s latest proponent, the Zionist loving United States. And power will undoubtedly shift back to the far east and Eurasia unless the madmen ruling the west don’t take the whole world down with their ideas of a nuclear “holocaust”.

    • Replies: @Thomm
    , @Anonymous
  210. Wally says: • Website
    @Bragadocious

    The big question:

    What is considered “Asian” at Harvard or other universities?

    And what is considered “white”, or “caucasian”, which is used sometimes.

  211. Wally says:
    @Discard

    Spot on point.

    The “asians” discussed in the piece are a selected group from the gazillions of other “asians”.

  212. @Thomm

    Atilla was of Eurasian stock and people from that region are of a varied appearance gradually moving from more Asian looking in the eastern ‘stans’ to more Caucasian looking as you move west

    This is also observed in many Russians as well, which is obvious since they are a Eurasian nation and many of them have that hint of the mongol in their appearance. Even Putin has that mongol glint in his face.

    That’s the way Humanity evolved folks but some folks are so stuck up on Racial purity that they deny this obvious fact. This DOES NOT mean I encourage unchecked migration anywhere and everywhere. Immigration must be very selective and based on the need, both social and economic of the host nation

    And that must be combined with a no-nonsense foreign policy like that of Russia, which is so different from the ‘invade and destroy the third world as much as we can, then invite them over here’ Orwellian circus that goes for ‘foreign policy’ in the Zionist ruled west. This is a typical ZioJew tactic to blunt the forces of nationalism in their respective host nations but I think the opposite is happening. Perhaps they will use the ensuing chaos and anger to deflect blame from them but I really hope both the ‘warring’ parties must realize who is actually setting them up like this.

    Derb here is too scared to bell the cat lest his ‘career’ is finished. Common Derb you know too well who is responsible for this yet you never name names. You’ve made enough money now already and you are old too.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  213. Thomm says:
    @HogHappenin

    And power will undoubtedly shift back to the far east and Eurasia

    Of course. See my chart in comment #205.

    Resourceful men are already either expatriating there, or in businesses that transact a lot with Asia.

  214. utu says:
    @Colleen Pater

    griffe du lion calculated that 2% american jews having 50% of wealth and power could be accounted for by IQ alone

    No, their math is crap. They engaged in circular reasoning by assuming that Jewish distribution must have a fatter tail and then they adjusted the fatness of the tail to reflect Jewish over representation. This kind of games are played to avoid looking at more obvious explanations like tribalism, ethnic nepotism and other personality qualities that are not related to IQ.

  215. utu says:
    @Wade

    why the Derb doesn’t at least mention this aspect to the story

    Perhaps because Derb avoids Jewish subjects unless he can praise their IQ and accomplishments.

  216. Thomm says:
    @HogHappenin

    Atilla was of Eurasian stock and people from that region are of a varied appearance gradually moving from more Asian looking in the eastern ‘stans’ to more Caucasian looking as you move west

    Statues of Attilla depict him as being completely Mongoloid. Not half-way like Leonard Nimoy or Charles Bronson or Edward G. Robinson. This is even the account of European records who found his appearance very foreign.

    This DOES NOT mean I encourage unchecked migration anywhere and everywhere. Immigration must be very selective and based on the need, both social and economic of the host nation

    Same here. I want skilled immigrants only – ones who are virtually certain to be upper-middle-class at a minimum. By volume, about 70% of these will invariably be Asian, particularly from China and India. Very few blacks, Mestizos, and Muslim Arabs will make the cut (but the tiny number who can are welcome).

    • Replies: @HogHappenin
  217. utu says:
    @Orwellian State

    What kind of enlightenment is this? Sounds more like capitulation to me.

    You see, AaronB is (((AaronB))). Enlightenment is very very good for goys.

  218. utu says:
    @Thomm

    Remember that us normal whites have no problem

    Neither you nor AaronB are white.

    • Replies: @Thomm
    , @AaronB
  219. Ron Unz says:
    @Art Deco

    Harvard and Yale student bodies are both about 25% jooie

    [Drums fingers]

    https://sites.google.com/site/nuritbaytch/

    Ha, ha. “Art Deco” is just one of those fanatic Jewish-activist types who spend their time hanging around my website. Regarding Jewish-related issues, he’s about as trustworthy and objective as the ADL…

    I’m much too busy to get involved in this comment-thread, but I can refer people to an extended discussion I had a couple of years back:

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/who-knew-haven-monahan-had-transferred-from-uva-to-ucla/?commenterfilter=ron_unz

    Basically, one of the tricks he and his friends are pulling is to narrowly define “Jewish” in the religious sense, which drastically reduces the total numbers at Harvard and elsewhere.

    Back during the 1950s, they often used a similar trick regarding Communism. Clearly Communists aren’t religious, so they therefore argued that there obviously weren’t any Jewish Communists.

    If you agree that there’s never been a single Jewish Communist then you should definitely accept his current gallons of squid-ink…

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    , @Art Deco
  220. @Thomm

    You are a sad little hindoo, nursing his grievances by calling for the demographic overthrow of his betters.

  221. @Ron Unz

    his current gallons of squid-ink…

    Yid-ink.

    It’s what Jewish activist types squirt copious volumes of when they detect that you’re on their trail.

  222. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @HogHappenin

    Well, if you compare European civilization at what’s arguably one of its lowest points to other cultures which at the same time are going through somewhat of a golden age, or a very least a nicer period of their histories, then clearly it’ll look pretty dismal. Even so, early medieval Europeans did produce some pretty impressive architecture, such as the Romanesque cathedrals like the one in Speyer, Germany.

    Nevertheless I have to consider these West vs. East “my ancestors could beat up your ancestors!” arguments rather silly and petty, considering that both Europe/the West and the Far East have obviously contributed a huge amount to general human progress and have much to be proud of in that regard. Which is a good reason why, as you state in another comment, they should be very selective and restrictive about who they allow into their lands as immigrants, especially regarding people from groups whose achievements, both historical and modern, are significantly less impressive…
    Presently the East Asians are doing quite a good job of this, but as you’ve alluded, the scumbags currently running the West seem to be hell-bent on ruining their nations through demographic replacement and endless war.

    • Replies: @HogHappenin
  223. @Thomm

    Jewish men don’t want Jewish women.

    I see our sad little hindoo has now trained his evidence-free assertions on Jews. Yes, Jewish men are all salivating over hindoo “babes,” lol.

    Our little hindoo needs to understand that even though Jewish activism has undoubtedly brought the white man low, when Jews ditch their sick supremacist cult (“Judaism”) and lay off the loony “anti-racism,” they’re actually rather likable people. Hindoos, on the other hand, not so much.

  224. @Thomm

    Another yellow fever degenerate. Attila the hen was Margaret Thatcher’s nickname. Move to Asia.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  225. @Biff

    Another yellow fever degenerate. Move to Asia. We don’t need more worthless imports like Derbyshire’s dragon lady.

    • Replies: @Biff
  226. @Malla

    Nailed it I think. Quite a picture you have presented

  227. @Thomm

    Let’s make it easy for you and Biff. Blacks/Asians/Muslims/Jews need to leave the West. Both of you are going with them. Let’s see how long it is before you clamor to come back to the West.

    • Replies: @HogHappenin
  228. @Biff

    Then why are so many Chinese and Indians applying to Western universities? Same for the Muslims. They can go to school in Turkey.

  229. @Biff

    Aryan Indians invented zero. This was before they mixed with Asians and reduced their average IQ to 82.

    Babylonians (Caucasians) and Greeks (Europeans) came up with algebra. Algebra is an Arabic word but that’s just a description name.

  230. @Biff

    I was comparing the fat(American) ugly(white) women with that of the slender attractive more intelligent Asian women – it’s no contest.

    Well duh, if you compare the fat and ugly women of one race with the slender and attractive specimens of another race, the latter will always look more desirable, no matter the races involved in the comparison.

    If you compare white women in the upper echelons of beauty with their appropriate asian counterparts, well, let’s just say modesty prohibits me from making too much of the lopsided comparison.

    This is all borne out by empirical evidence from mixed-race countries. In all such countries, from India to Egypt to Bolivia, it’s the whitest looking specimens that predominate in television and advertising, no matter how small a proportion of the general population they comprise. In other words, when it comes attracting eyeballs, anti-racist equalitarian ideology is forced to take a back seat.

    Social constructivists, try very, very hard to dispel such “myths.” Their attempts, needless to say, continually find themselves dashed against the rocks of racial reality.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  231. Thomm says:
    @utu

    I am, you buttfuckaroni.

    It is you who has nothing in common with successful whites. Hence, the term ‘Wigger’.

    What bothers you is that successful whites can’t stand you, and assiduously keep you away from respectable society.

    Heh heh heh heh

    • Replies: @Anon
  232. @International Jew

    Asians/Jews/blacks are not needed to save Western civilization.

  233. @Anonymous

    And they have dark skin. That’s the number one marker of low IQ.

  234. Thomm says:
    @attilathehen

    Move to Asia.

    Gladly. I am a white guy who spent a lot of time in Asia, and would happily return there.

    Perhaps I should remind you of how many white guys marry Asian women, and how a blue-haired feminist like you ranks at the bottom (at least in Asia, people like you don’t pollute the visual vista).

    I know you are desperate for attention from masculine men like me, but I don’t feel generous enough to pleasure you with attention.

    Heh heh heh heh

  235. @Anonymous

    I concur completely. I was ONLY trying to refute claims by apparently racial purists and people who have a sense of triumphalism regarding things that have occurred way way back and they have had NO part in it.

    They apparently use this to demean and disparage people who they have NO knowledge of and no contact with. Such ignorant black and white aka binary fools have no nuance what so ever. It reminds me of those silly bathroom jock talk aka ‘mine is bigger than yours’ but only this time this is due to ‘history’.

    Anyways coming back to topic, it is things like these that make it easy for the scumbags to deflect attention and do their dirty work. And yes quite a few of them are Joo but then we also have gems like the editor of this wonderful website who also happen to be the same tribe but doesn’t give in to ‘tribe think’ . Yes we have to be careful as certain group of people might be pre-disposed to certain actions due to whatever , which calls for us to be pragmatic but then but boxing people is plain wrong and only help the scumbags fool us even easier.

  236. @attilathehen

    By the way , Atilla, I do not live in the west anymore. Slick east for me it is now. Ride the metro in say Beijing or shanghai and take the plane from Changi international. You’d forget JFK and grand central will feel a bit ancient to you.

    And hay I’m never ever coming back. make sure your Zionist overlords don’t plunge Asia into a new war like they always seem to in the middle east. Feel kinda sorry for them mid easterners.

    But Too bad them zios have your leaders by the short hairs, Orange-man included

  237. @Anonymous

    Look at all of them sock puppeting to push for more hindoos to come to America.

    In fairness, all groups tend to do this, although the tendency probably declines with time. Hindoos, of course, are too new for this tendency to have had any time to decline.

    Opening the border to them is applied lunacy. The minute that’s done, every Ranjeet, Sanjeet and Gupta wants in. The results are a demographic catastrophe of the ages.

  238. @Winston

    The US can remain as the superpower only because it attracts the brightest and ablest from all over the world.

    America could have received the benefits of immigration without any of the (exorbitant) costs through eugenics. How many people settle each year, some 1.5 million? Perhaps only some 1% of them could be considered the “best and brightest,” so say 15,000. If there are some 200 million whites (or close enough to whites), then 1% of this population is about 2 million. According to CDC data, the most highly educated (and hence intelligent) Americans reproduce at a rate considerably lower than average. Providing a sufficient financial incentive to this subset could quite easily double or triple its fertility rate. A boost equivalent to fertility rise of 1% of this population – 20,000 newborns – would annually exceed the arrivals of third world “best and brightest.” And if it’s only a matter of 20,000 people, then financial costs would be no impediment, no matter how high. Even at a price tag of $1 million per newborn it’s still only $20 billion annually – a pittance compared to (a) the costs exacted by mass immigration, and (b) the presumed benefit of being able to remain a superpower.

  239. Thomm says:
    @silviosilver

    If you compare white women in the upper echelons of beauty with their appropriate asian counterparts, well, let’s just say modesty prohibits me from making too much of the lopsided comparison.

    er…. Comparing the top 20% of white women to the average is a level of mathematical illiteracy that only a WN wigger would do.

    Plus, attractive white women are so disgusted by WN wiggers that they actively work to cut them off from access to white women. You speak as though attractive white women know you exist. In reality, WN is the biggest sausage-fest ever (little tiny weisswursts). Only a few bluehaired uggos like AtillatheHen show up to seek beta orbiters (even she won’t reproduce with you).

    BTW, here are the white women who used to be forced to marry WN wiggers :

    Now, they rebel against the same wiggers. Too bad both sides can destroy each other faster.

    Meanwhile, pretty white women are doing an admirable job cutting off WN wiggers completely. Remember that a WN wigger has about as much chance with a pretty white girl as a pygmy in the Congo does.

    Here is a couple of lovely newlyweds :

    Heh heh heh heh

  240. @Biff

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/history-of-zero/

    Italians got it from Arabs who got it from India who got it from ultimately Mesopotamia.
    Mayans and other mesoamericans managed to roll their own at least a couple of thousand years ago.
    Same as they did writing. And books.
    If they didn’t exist, they would have been invented anyway. It’s what humans do. Count, and record. And collect taxes.

  241. Wilkey says:

    Here’s one reason elite schools may be choosing correctly (at least with regard to race, if not to particular individuals): what fraction of elite adults – in business, science, culture, politics, the military, etc – are Asian? My vague sense is that it’s 20% at the very most, and probably quite a bit less.

    And I don’t think elite colleges are keeping these Asian kids from making it big. They’re basically admitting a lot of kids who are destined to make it big, anyway, and would do just as well if they went to State U.

  242. @MarkinLA

    The claim is that China has not invented anything by itself. Simple two minutes of googling can show this is false. No one is taking undeserved credit for anything, merely pointing out a simple and basic fact that China had a lot of inventions of its own despite a bunch of idiots who can’t use google acting as if asking the question “what did China invent” is some gotcha moment. attilathehen is even more epic in his claim that ONLY the Ancient Greeks invented philosophy. As they say, never go full retard.

    Anyways, for people who can’t be bothered to use google:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_mathematics

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_science_and_technology_in_China

    • Replies: @Thomm
  243. Wilkey says:

    Aside from economic competition there was another very pragmatic reason to keep out East Asians from the US (and New Zealand, Canada and Australia, which had its own white Australia policy): the very real possibility the white Americans would be overrun by the Chinese.

    In 1880 California had 865,000 people. Canada had 4.2 million. Australia – far closer to China than to any European country – had 2.2 million. New Zealand had about 500,000. Combined population of all: about 8 million.

    China? It had 368 million people – over 47x as many people as the above and 2.5x as many people as in all of the UK, France, Spain, Germany, and Italy combined. 16 million Chinese immigrants could easily have overrun Canada, Australia, New Zealand and California – which were more easily reachable by the Chinese than by Western Europeans – and China would not have even noticed they were gone.

    Without the “racist” immigration policies that were adopted the odds that these places would now be Asian-majority are around, oh, 99%. Were Americans morally obliged to let territory we controlled be overrun by a foreign culture we didn’t care to live in*? Only an ideological fanatic would say they were.

    * Proof: How many (non-Chinese) Americans would really want to live in China today? Effectively 0.00%.

    • Replies: @Thomm
    , @Malla
    , @TT
  244. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Lol.

    Your low iq of 82 is showing here. You obviously don’t know what sock puppeting is.

    There are a lot of Indian trolls here who are trying to hide their identity so they can push for more hindoos. The quantity doesn’t change whether they are sock puppeting or not.

    I doubt you are smart enough to grasp this though.

    • Replies: @Anon
  245. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Please favor us with your definition.

    And remember the old saying about glass houses.

  246. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomm

    For the record, as a mixed Ceylonese and therefore probably a “Hindoo” as far as idiots on this thread are concerned, if you’re really Indian I’m glad you’re pretending to be white, because you’d make us look insane and more than mildly creepy. Thankfully I have no reason to believe this is the case.

    Advice: cut out the “Heh heh heh”-ing.

    • Replies: @Truth
  247. AaronB says:
    @utu

    If my racial composition matters to you, utu, I am half Catholic white, and half Jewish.

    While I think ideas stand or fall on their own, race does inform our attitudes, and people have a right to know who they are talking to.

    I am sorry to see from the other thread that you have turned against me. I always enjoy your contributions to the IQ debate.

  248. AaronB says:
    @Anonymous

    I agree, you tried with Trump and he failed you.

    Are you aware that Trumps advisor was Roy Cohn, a Jew? Trump represents the ultimate triumph of Jewish values.

    Even his mannerisms are fully Jewish.

    I know he presented himself as the champion of the common man, but this should not come as a surprise. The devil can wear a suit when he needs to.

  249. AaronB says:
    @Gapeseed

    Well, it’s certainly a better vision than HBD and the like, but unfortunately I don’t see it happening.

  250. AaronB says:
    @Ringo

    You’re right, and I should modify my remarks.

    By the 1950s in America there were still white people willing to grind and work very hard, but the loss of morale had already gone very deep – and the 60s was a revolt against modern civilization.

    Heck, there are now white people willing to grind – look at Amazon.

    The social scene always has shades and layers it’s not monochrome.

    Read Kerouac or the existentialists to get an idea of how disillusioned whites had become with modern civilization by that point, but really Western literature since the Romantics is just one lugubrious record of steadily eroding faith in modern civilization.

    For some reason, the literary and cultural record is ignored, and our current predicament isnt seen as the culmination of a long build up of dissatisfaction with modern civilization itself, but as a sudden derailment caused entirely by external actors.

    But anyone seriously wishing to come to terms with white decline cannot ignore this heavily documented unhappiness at the heart of modern civilization.

  251. If Derb’s kids are college-aged, unless they are idiots I assume they checked “white” on their applications. That’s what I did, and that’s what my 1/4th Asian son will do.

  252. Art Deco says:
    @Ron Unz

    Nurit Baytch made use of software that assessed surnames, and was working with two academics.

    I’m neither Jewish (in the religious or ethnic sense) nor an activist, FWIW.

  253. Thomm says:
    @Wilkey

    * Proof: How many (non-Chinese) Americans would really want to live in China today? Effectively 0.00%.

    There are 200,000 white Western expats living in Shanghai alone at present. Most of them love it.

    As usual, the WN is wrong.

    • Replies: @Rdm
    , @benjaminl
  254. Thomm says:
    @random rand

    No one is taking undeserved credit for anything, merely pointing out a simple and basic fact that China had a lot of inventions of its own despite a bunch of idiots who can’t use google acting as if asking the question “what did China invent” is some gotcha moment.

    Inability to use Google is just one of many shortcomings of WN losers.

    attilathehen is even more epic in his claim that ONLY the Ancient Greeks invented philosophy.

    The only appropriate response to a twat like that is “Who Bitch Dis is?”.

  255. Rdm says:
    @attilathehen

    With ugly face, crooked teeth, it would be definitely a lottery winning genetics for sure.

  256. Rdm says:
    @Thomm

    You mean Western Sexpats?

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  257. @Thomm

    Giddy up. For what are you waiting? The cost of living (and puntang) is much cheaper in the Philippines, Thailand, etc. And you would no longer have to deal with Caucasian women who reject you.

    • Replies: @Yan Shen
  258. Yan Shen says:
    @attilathehen

    I forgot that you were a chick. That’s right. Thanks for reminding me. I don’t know if uh anyone’s ever told you this before, but you are seriously one crazy-ass, psycho bitch, sister.

    I hope this comment passes the censor here Derb!

    :)

    • Replies: @Thomm
    , @attilathehen
  259. Vinteuil says:
    @Art Deco

    Ron Unz is always too busy to reply to serious critics with anything other than vitriol.

  260. Thomm says:
    @Yan Shen

    Remember that a white woman has only one way to contribute to the White Trashionalist cause, which is to reproduce and reproduce again.

    A childless creature like Atillathehen has failed to manage even this (despite the total lack of romantic options for WN wigger men), so most WNs consider her useless.

    That is why she is desperate for male attention.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
    , @Alden
    , @Yan Shen
  261. Truth says:
    @Anon

    Dude I have to admit, I kinda favor the “heh heh heh heh” thing. I think it’s a pretty catchy trademark.

  262. @Yan Shen

    Boyfriend, if I got a nickel for every time I was called a bitch, I’d be richer than Bezos.

    But that’s what happens when you preach the truth. The most important objective reality is IQ. Caucasians are first, Asians are second, blacks are last. People need to realize, understand and accept this. This is the beginning of knowledge.

    • LOL: Yan Shen
    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Tony
  263. Truth says:
    @attilathehen

    Man, I had no idea how hard it was being a white nationalist female. “Aware” white dudes attack you all the time, and basically without provocation! It seems like there is no letup.

    This board is so enlightening.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
    , @Thomm
  264. @Thomm

    who the fuck cares
    we need borders
    socialists hate borders

    • Replies: @norse nestor
  265. @norse nestor

    How do I respond to my ”elected official’ , when he says, “it’s not me, it’s eu”

  266. Alden says:
    @Thomm

    You really don’t know what a wigger is. You should ask mr google what a wigger is. Using the word in a totally, absolutely wrong way makes you look like the moron you are.

    • Replies: @Truth
  267. Yan Shen says:
    @Thomm

    I can uh see it now. Our good friend attilathehen channels her inner Kiera Knightley, goes full Coco Mademoiselle and starts seducing the John Derbyshires of the world and bringing them back from the dark side…

  268. Yan Shen says:
    @attilathehen

    No my English skills are actually fairly good relative to that of the average white American. Having actually read through your comment, I can only say one thing. Get some help! I think Derb was being generous when he referred to you as a mental defective. (I assume moderator edits to comments for a particular author are made by that author. If not, was Unz the one who wrote that? :))

    • Replies: @Thomm
  269. Truth says:
    @Alden

    You are FINALLY coming to Attila’s side? Sister Power?

    Now THAT’S What I’m talking about!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  270. Rdm says:

    I wonder which one of you are actually she.

  271. @Truth

    Hi Truth. They aren’t white nationalists. They are always married to some kind of an Asian woman and this colors (pun intended) their judgment and compromises them, especially if they have offspring.

    They refuse to the admit that Caucasians/Europeans/the West are superior. And because I challenge them on this it infuriates them. I commented before that if anyone knew Derbyshire personally they should ask him who is better: the English or the Chinese. Now we know from his statement in this article who he believes is better, the Chinese. I don’t know how VDare can keep him on. I even gave Derbyshire a chance to redeem himself by him and his family giving a speech about being grateful they are better off being in the West and the offspring 1/2 white. But they will never do this.

  272. Cato says:

    A basic premise of our civilization is equality, where all persons are treated the same: by employers, as customers, as vendors, as investors, and under the law. The logic of capitalism actually guarantees this in business transactions: employers who discriminate against the best workers, or who refuse to serve certain customers, will have lower profits and yield to those without such scruples. Our expectation that justice be impartial, and that meritocracy prevail in recruitment for bureaucratic hierarchies, also stems from our expectation for equal treatment.

    A multi-ethnic society can only survive as a free society if it embraces equality–if it treats persons as individuals, not as members of particular ethnic groups. A society practicing ethnic favoritism will split into a mosaic of ethnicities, each struggling for spoils, and a police state would be required to keep a lid on the mess. For this reason we should all condemn misguided policies such as affirmative action or holistic admission. We should all condemn Harvard.

    • Replies: @Biff
  273. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth

    I always wondered what you were talking about…

  274. @Thomm

    I generally agree to this however immigration must indeed be limited even for the skilled ones. I mean right now, there are a crap load of just about average Indians coming in and bringing bus loads of their families to the states. I don’t live there anymore but still I wouldn’t want Cincinnati to look like Calcutta. I think that must remain.

    I have been to urban India and unlike urban China or even urban Indonesia, it is very very dirty and the folks especially the ones in the north are very narcissist, sexually frustrated and have a bullying attitude. Generally I found that people are quite triumphalist and have a sense of superiority over their own countrymen based on caste or religion or heck even food habits. They are a very close minded people generally perhaps the later generations would iron it out but given the rise of nationalist rhetoric, I think it’ll get worse before it becomes better

    The Chinese, Japanese, Indonesian and Malaysian are relatively a lot better in that sense plus they are usually honest and ethical compared to east Indians. Additionally, the US can import folks from eastern Europe which has of late become a cheap source of very high quality technical talent. In my own company, our Russian and Estonian office staff takes about the same salary as those of the Indians but are quite more productive. That doesn’t mean high Q Asians must be turned away. But there is always this place to look which is typically ignored, i.e. EE.

    So there is indeed a way to maintain the ‘race balance’ if there ever were such a thing without resorting to massive population replacement. And most importantly that has to be combined with a no nonsense foreign policy like Russia. Not disturbing the peace in the third world and bring them here by the truckloads which will obviously contain folks who’d be understandbly very angry with whitey

    • Replies: @Biff
    , @Thomm
  275. Biff says:
    @Cato

    A basic premise of our civilization is equality, where all persons are treated the same: by employers, as customers, as vendors, as investors, and under the law. The logic of capitalism actually guarantees this in business transactions: employers who discriminate against the best workers, or who refuse to serve certain customers, will have lower profits and yield to those without such scruples. Our expectation that justice be impartial, and that meritocracy prevail in recruitment for bureaucratic hierarchies, also stems from our expectation for equal treatment.

    That is the biggest load of liberal trope I’ve ever read. In what universe does this person live?

    • Replies: @Cato
  276. Biff says:
    @HogHappenin

    I generally agree to this however immigration must indeed be limited even for the skilled ones.

    What about emmigration? Should that be limited? Taking my own skilled white ass over to east Asia is leaving behind a deficit of my kind, and bolstering the numbers of Mexicans in proportion of people like me. Isn’t this just as damaging as immigration itself?

  277. benjaminl says:
    @Thomm

    What are your thoughts on China’s Han-supremacist immigration policy, under which naturalized citizens account for <.0001% of the population? I don't see any substantial moral difference between the Yellow Nationalism that is unquestioned consensus in China, and the White Nationalism that is the Worst Thing in The World.

    https://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21710264-worlds-rising-superpower-has-particular-vision-ethnicity-and-nationhood-has

    Race became a central organising principle in Republican China. Sun Yat-sen, who founded the Kuomintang, China’s nationalist party, and is widely seen as a “father” of the Chinese nation, promoted the idea of “common blood”. A century on President Xi Jinping continues to do so. One reason for his claim that Taiwan is part of China is that “blood is thicker than water”. In a speech in 2014 he set his sights even wider: “Generations of overseas Chinese never forget their home country, their origins or the blood of the Chinese nation flowing in their veins.”

    Many Chinese today share the idea that a Chinese person is instantly recognisable—and that an ethnic Han must, in essence, be one of them. A young child in Beijing will openly point at someone with white or black skin and declare them a foreigner (or “person from outside country”, to translate literally). Foreign-born Han living in China are routinely told that their Mandarin should be better (in contrast to non-Han, who are praised even if they only mangle an occasional pleasantry).

    China today is extraordinarily homogenous. It sustains that by remaining almost entirely closed to new entrants except by birth. Unless someone is the child of a Chinese national, no matter how long they live there, how much money they make or tax they pay, it is virtually impossible to become a citizen. Someone who marries a Chinese person can theoretically gain citizenship; in practice few do. As a result, the most populous nation on Earth has only 1,448 naturalised Chinese in total, according to the 2010 census.

  278. Thomm says:
    @HogHappenin

    I generally agree to this however immigration must indeed be limited even for the skilled ones. I mean right now, there are a crap load of just about average Indians coming in and bringing bus loads of their families to the states.

    By ‘skilled’ I mean people who are in professions known for earning $100K+. We can easily limit it to that and still take in 1M/year (or 0.3%/year relative to the domestic population).

    Plus, chain family migration must end. Only spouses and minor children. No other relatives.

    • Replies: @HogHappenin
  279. Thomm says:
    @Yan Shen

    I think Derb was being generous when he referred to you as a mental defective.

    Oh, I was not aware of this, but am not surprised.

    Remember, the best response to such a creature is ‘Who bitch dis is?’. ‘Bitch’ is not the insult, but rather the declaration that a woman is not capable of participating in male conversation due to insufficient intellect.

  280. Thomm says:
    @Truth

    A ‘white nationalist female’ is usually ultra-ugly, and is seamlessly interchangeable with those obese bluehaired feminists, since their ideology is 99% the same.

    That is why WN is an overwhelmingly male ideology, because female hypergamy ensures that all but the absolute ugliest women have better places to be than with the bottom 20% of men.

    WN is the bottom 20% of men and bottom 1% of w0men.

  281. Cato says:
    @Biff

    I think you meant “tripe”, Biff.

  282. Tony says:
    @attilathehen

    Say what? Face the facts. Asians, specifically NE Asians have a higher IQ than whites. Doesnt make them better or superior to whites. Just smarter. You saying otherwise just proves my point. And no, I aint married to an Asian.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  283. @benjaminl

    China is not a Han supremacist country. There are 56 ethnic groups that are entittled to affirmative action and have autonomous regions in which they are the majority. Ethnic Han are not instantly recognizable, minorities living near Han cluster near the Han they live around. Zhuang people living in southern China would cluster closely with Cantonese Han Chinese and would be more similiar in features.

    Overseas born han also don’t get citizenship, so the Chinese government does not discriminate on the basis of Han vs non-Han. They just don’t believe in giving citizenship. Nothing to do with racial supremacy.

    There are native born white people in China.

    • Replies: @Malla
  284. @Thomm

    I realise that people gravitate to political ideologies that give them advantages in the sexual market place. ‘Traditionalist’ types favour monogamy within their group because it gives those with low sexual market value access to a mate. In a free sexual market they will be left without a chance of reproducing. ‘Tradition’ as they advocate is nothing more then sexual communism where 1 man will be allocated 1 women of their group.

    • Replies: @Malla
  285. JimB says:

    Does Harvard’s student selection criteria really get the best and brightest, these days? Did it ever? I think its time to institute a Chinese-style nationwide academic test, but let’s administer it after college. Let Google, Apple, Facebook, Morgan Stanley, Sullivan-Cromwell, Goldman-Sachs, Wolfram Research, the NSA, and the Navy Seals formulate it.

  286. Malla says:
    @Thomm

    “That is why WN is an overwhelmingly male ideology, because female hypergamy ensures that all but the absolute ugliest women have better places to be than with the bottom 20% of men.”

    Though beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I am not sure if that is true.
    White nationalists being losers is an old and false claim used by their enemies. I have not found it to be true and do not understand from where this nonsense comes from. Or even if it was true, it is changing fast, really fast.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  287. Malla says:
    @Third world nationalist

    Traditional marriages are the best bet for a stable society. Because if you have a free for all sexual system like what you have in the West, female hypergamy kicks in. And our brains have been wired up in the ‘caveman days’. Humans have been civilized only recently and it is more likely, most women will choose thugs over civilized men leading to
    1] Passing off of more thug genes into the future, which bodes bad for that society
    2] Encouraging men to act more thuggish to get intimacy with women.

    Both are bad for societies. Of course some women may choose successful professional men based on wealth or other factors, you will still find a large pool of females going for thugs as their hindbrains have been wired during the pre civilization period of our history. Indeed this phenomenon may have played a role (among many) in the fall of IQ among Westerners from since the Victorian period.

    Though I am not married yet, too young for that, I do have some friends older than me who were great womanizers. After years of romps with bitches all of them married traditional ‘wife material’ women. ‘Those bitches were just for fun’ as one of them explained to me.

  288. Malla says:
    @Thomm

    Do you think this guy is a low IQ loser????

    This guy????
    I mean seriously.???

    This guy?

    Or this guy who made the video above?

    I have been to one of the top engineering colleges (after the IITs, BITS Pilani, Engineering college Rourkee) and the four gentlemen above are more rational and logical in their thinking than 99% of my fellow students as well as teachers I came across in my college. 99% of my colleagues in college were just rote learners, thats it. And yes, nearly all my classmates went abroad, mostly to the U.S.A. and are all doing well economically. 99% of them are in my opinion, are eaily dumber than the four guys in those videos.

    • Replies: @Malla
  289. Malla says:
    @Wilkey

    There are quite a few White people who live in China. China is much better than you think. Chinese cities are better then most Western cities in some ways , worse in some ways.

    Though the Coastal part China is probably better than most other countries of the third world in quality of life, it comes with it’s own third world problems. Not completely first world yet.

  290. Malla says:
    @Malla

    I have been to one of the top engineering colleges (after the IITs, BITS Pilani, Engineering college Rourkee)

    I have been to one of the top engineering colleges of India

  291. Malla says:
    @silviosilver

    Or at least of hindoo unity on a day-to-day level. Maybe they unite around the big issues – eg presenting a united front against whitey – but this disguises the million complexes their various hindoo identities suffer and which causes them to eye hindoo outgroups cautiously.

    If only you could experience the back stabbing, cheating and swindling among the group members in these groups sometimes. But things are always interesting and fun as Indian dudes gossip like White girls about each other behind their backs. When I was in England, me and my best friend (another Indian guy, he is doing his PhD in Stanford now) got the hell out of these groups and kept our ‘memberships’ from afar. We moved in and moved out at our own choice.

  292. Malla says:
    @Third world nationalist

    Yeah she is one of those Central Asian ethnics of North West China. Even Russians are one of the official ethnic groups of China but their numbers are very small. Since the Han are 90% (there are differences in regional dialects with a major Mandarin/Southern divide) they are quite comfortable in their demographic domination and can be kind to the other 55 ethnics. They did not apply the one child policy on the minorities as I understand. But anyways the minorities except the Russians are more or less racially similar to the Han. Those minorities from the North West probably have ancient White Tocharian (called Tusharas in Sanskrit, remnants of them came and settled in India and was absorbed in the racial mess)/Scythian/Cuman ancestry as well as perhaps some Middle Eastern ancestry. Those from the south are similar to South East Asians. There are Tibetans, Mongols, Manchus and even Koreans. Over all they are all racially similar. It is much easier to trust people who look similar to you and thus behave similar to you in at group level. Cannot be compared to the USA.

    • Replies: @Malla
  293. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomm

    Thomm is obviously a frustrated Indian that is projecting his faults onto other people.

    Actually, the biggest losers I’ve met are Indian nationalists. They have to resort to rape and beating women to keep them from going out of their race and marrying white guys.

    This idiot Thomm is also a big time hippocrit. If a racial meritocracy is so good for America, why not institute it in India and import a bunch of Han Chinese and Jews. This would actually help low iq India immensely, but of course they would not go for this.

    • Replies: @Malla
  294. Malla says:
    @Malla

    56 offical ethnic groups of China

    Beautiful song.
    All racially similar to each other even though ethnically/ culturally different.

  295. @Fty

    What’s you point? Are you content that anyone who doesn’t know your prejudices might have real difficulty understanding you?

  296. @AaronB

    Revenge. It worked in the past, Aaron.

  297. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Bill

    Wrong, the elite we have now was chosen via ethnic nepotism.

  298. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Tony

    To belabor the obvious, Asians do indeed include a lot of math whizzes. But have you ever seen them struggle with language? Have you ever seen one evince any significant degree of imagination? Have you ever seen Asian immigrants display kindness or generosity?

    • Replies: @Bach
    , @Anonymous
  299. A deeper exploration of John Derbyshire’s reasoned preferemces would include comparative material such as stats from Eastern Europe about the dominance of Jews in the medical and legal professions and academic posts. I understand that it was much resented.

  300. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @random rand

    This accusation (lack of inventiveness) is always made by established industrial powers against their newer rivals. And it’s usually true – at first. Mid-19th century Brits used to mock American and German manufactures as nothing more than cheap copies of their own products.

    • Replies: @random rand
  301. @Malla

    I think that institutionalized polygamy is better then monogamy. Something like where the top 10 percent of the men take 30 percent of the women while the bottom 20 percent of the men don’t reproducce is better for eugenics.

    I think that thug genes are actually important in society to keep a reasonable level of alphaness. I think the reason why Europe is a bit too cucked nowdays is that in the past they executed a lot of high T thugs as criminals, hence the population evolved to be too passive and not agressive enough.

    What is a thug ? Thugs are a bunch of men grouped together in mannerbund to conquer other tribes. It is a primodial instinct that came from the hunter gatherer times. This sort of mannerbund served the indo ayrans well when they expanded. Women will always be attracted to what is strong and powerful. This is why rap music is popular, because it has this gangster culture based on asabiya and in group loyalty.

    Men want to be strong and powerful to attract women they adopt the gangster culture. This explains the universal popularity of rap.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
  302. Bach says:

    But Maybe That’s Good For Americans?

    Maybe it is. But this sort of thing should be implemented fairly across all higher achievers. Jews cannot be the exception at the expense of middle America whites. The obscene overrepresentation of Jews is not good for America as well, as we can clearly see over the past 17 years of endless wars and the influence of the Jewish lobby.

  303. @Malla

    I agree with this analysis. China is more racially homogenous but culturally diverse across the different ethnic groups. It is quite the opposite of how diversity works in America, which until recently used to be racially diverse, but culturally homogenous. The vast majority of Americans spoke english and were Christian regardless of race. While in China the Hui and Han might look similiar but they woule be 2 ethnic groups based on religion and patrilinear descent.

  304. Bach says:
    @Priss Factor

    At least Jews do it to boost their own power. Jews are ruling elites who want diversity for divide-and-rule in gentile nations. But Jews never push for non-Jewish diversity in Israel. So, Jews control and toy with PC for their own benefit.

    It seems you’re encouraging other minorities to act more like Jews.

    You know, as long as whites like you continue to admire and give Jews a pass, they will continue to do what they do in Western societies.

    Good luck serving your masters. You have no one to blame but yourselves.

  305. Bach says:
    @Jonathan Silber

    Make the student body of Harvard a majority of Chinese grinds and kiss your cachet goodbye.

    But if elite schools treated Asians fairly, they wouldn’t be “grinds”. It’s only when people are forced to work twice as hard to achieve the same place in society that they are forced to “grind”.

  306. Bach says:
    @Anonymous

    Neither the Chinese nor the Indians can be trusted. In that regard they are like the Jews. They all lack that integrity chip that governs most protestant whites. I wouldn’t say it’s because of Christianity. Most Catholics and blacks (who are mostly protestant) are equally untrustworthy.

    It’s laughable when whites make these kinds of moral assertions. Check your history. Check current news.

    Whites still lack a univeralist morality unlike E. Asians who developed that thousands of years ago.

    Whites are still tribal. On the surface, it appears universalist because they just expand the definition of the “tribe”.

    There’s probably a relation to the Abrahamic religion that underlies their ethos. Jews are the least universal. Christians are broader but still tribal.

    • Replies: @Malla
  307. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Third world nationalist

    I think the reason why Europe is a bit too cucked nowdays is that in the past they executed a lot of high T thugs as criminals, hence the population evolved to be too passive and not agressive enough.

    What is a thug ? Thugs are a bunch of men grouped together in mannerbund to conquer other tribes. It is a primodial instinct that came from the hunter gatherer times.

    I guess that explains why Africa, a continent of “thugs”, was able to build large, high-trust societies, and were able to band together to conquer much of the rest of the world, while Europeans (and East Asians) languished idly, and were too busy stealing from each other and ripping each other off to accomplish anything…..

  308. Malla says:
    @Third world nationalist

    But thugs may not make good soldiers in the modern era. Japanese people are not thuggish by nature (few in the Yakuza are) but were fierce soldiers in WW2 driving the British out of Singapore and building an empire in Asia. Germans are law abiding people but look at what they did in WW2, fought the British Empire, Soviet Union and USA as well as conquered France, the center of a huge Empire. It took 4 years for the USA (along with the USSR) to defeat Third Reich Germany but only a month for Saddam.
    The Gurkhas in Nepal are very nice people, quite and friendly, not thuggish AT ALL. But send them out to war, they will rip out the windpipe of their enemies with their teeth Lion style. So much so along with the Nepali Army, the Indian Army and the British army have special Gurkha regiments. Biharis, a people in India are a classical thuggish people, but they run away from battles. The British defeated a huge Bihari Army in Plassey with ease. The British were hopelessly outnumbered. On the other hand, the British found it very hard to capture the nicer Gurkhas, they had to fight for every inch.
    Thug are useful only in tribal warfare or inner city warfare. Once civilisations came and modern warfare came, thug like warfare is useless and stupid. Civilized columns like that of the Romans have continuously defeated and destroyed barbarian thugs like the Numidians.

    As far as marriage,
    The best option may be Sharia Law.

  309. Malla says:
    @Bach

    Whites still lack a univeralist morality unlike E. Asians who developed that thousands of years ago.

    Wrong, it is Whites whose civilization posses the most universal morality. Christianity is very universal, Jews are tribal, yeah.

    • Replies: @Bach
    , @Anonymous
  310. Bach says:
    @Malla

    Wrong, it is Whites whose civilization posses the most universal morality. Christianity is very universal, Jews are tribal, yeah.

    Nonsense. Just look at the past 200 years, even 1000 years. White warmongering concomitant with racism and religious zealotry is legendary, even to this day.

    If you believe Christianity teaches a universalist ethics, you don’t know the history of Christianity.

    I agree that NT morality can be interpreted in a broad way, but historically, it was not. It was often used as a righteous weapon against the “heathens”. But even in the broadest interpretation, there is always a dividing line between believers and unbelievers.

    In contrast, E. Asian Confucian ethics is eminently humanistic. Throw in Buddhism and they go broader still to include all sentient and nonsentient beings.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
  311. Malla says:
    @Anonymous

    I am Indian but I do not think Thomm is Indian though I agree with your description of Indian nationalists. If lots of North East Asians and Northern Europeans were to come to India, it would indeed benefit India immensely. Not Jews, as many us already behave like Jews, a lot of cheating & swindling all around. Why do we need more?

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Thomm
  312. Bach says:
    @Anonymous

    Have you ever seen one evince any significant degree of imagination?

    This seems to be a common misunderstanding. But the logic is nonsense.

    It’s not Asians’ time to be imaginative. It’s their chore to catch up by absorbing established learning. When they reach par, then they can focus on expansion and creative imagination.

    Copy first. Innovate later.

    Have you ever seen Asian immigrants display kindness or generosity?

    Just. Wow.

  313. Malla says:
    @Malla

    Send the Jews to Africa. As Jews have such high IQs and Africans so low IQs on average, by moving to Africa, Jews can bring a lot of good there. The few high IQ Africans and Jews could lead Africa to a prosperous future. Jews should do this on humanitarian grounds and move themselves to Africa to develop that great continent. Do not send them to India, I repeat, do not send them here. Send the Whites of Africa to us, instead.

  314. Malla says:
    @Bach

    White warmongering concomitant with racism and religious zealotry is legendary, even to this day.

    This is dumb. Every race is racist and religious zealotry is common in most religions. Hinduism has religious zealotry. Islam and Judaism, no need to comment. Hinduism has a lot of religious zealotry.

    How Adi Shankara destroyed Buddhism and founded ‘Hinduism’ in the 8th century
    Why did Buddhism disappeared from Bharat (India)?

    http://bapumraut.blogspot.in/2013/02/how-adi-shankara-destroyed-buddhism-and.html

    Buddhist Zealotry can be seen in Sri Lanka today like the monks of the BBS

    Racism? Every race is racist

    https://www.modernghana.com/news/249409/1/arabs-mortal-hatred-and-enslavement-of-the-black-r.html

    Moses Maimonides, The most respected Jewish rabbi of all time and doctor, wrote in the Rambam
    “Those who are incapable of attaining to supreme religious values include the black coloured people and those who resemble them in their climates. Their nature is like the mute animals. Their level among existing things is below that of a man and above that of a monkey.” (Maimonides, Guide To The Perplexed, Translation from the Hebrew Version)

    Warmongering?

    Show me one people on this planet who were not war mongers. The Europeans were just good at it and defeated their enemies more often. They themselves had to face Moorish rule in Iberia, Turkish rule in the Balkans and Mongol rule in Russia.

    Also, Europeans themselves were being enslaved

    For centuries, the Turks, Moors and Mongols attacked Europa and when Europeans went on a winning and conquering spree all are now crying ‘This is not fare’. LOL

    And what about the
    Dzungar genocide at the hands of China?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dzungar_genocide

    The Dzungar genocide (simplified Chinese: 准噶尔灭族; traditional Chinese: 準噶爾滅族; pinyin: Zhǔngá’ěr mièzú[2]) was the mass extermination of the Mongol Buddhist Dzungar people, sometimes referred as “Zunghars”, at the hands of the Manchu[3] Qing dynasty of China and the Uyghurs of Xinjiang. The Qianlong Emperor ordered the genocide due to the Dzungar leader Amursana’s rebellion against Qing rule after the dynasty first conquered the Dzungar Khanate with Amursana’s support before he rebelled in 1755.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  315. Malla says:
    @Bach

    If you believe Christianity teaches a universalist ethics, you don’t know the history of Christianity.

    I agree that NT morality can be interpreted in a broad way, but historically, it was not. It was often used as a righteous weapon against the “heathens”.

    In the remote past maybe, and the destruction of European/Egyptian paganism was a tragedy. But in the last some centuries, Christianity became more universal.

    But even in the broadest interpretation, there is always a dividing line between believers and unbelievers.

    Missionaries have built schools and hospitals throughout the world. Even today, White Christian charities and volunteers go and help the needy and poor in Africa. Not many Asians do that.
    In India, it were missionaries who helped the condition of lower caste Hindus by giving them education. Many of them never converted to Christianity but the missionaries helped them none the less.

    In contrast, E. Asian Confucian ethics is eminently humanistic. Throw in Buddhism and they go broader still to include all sentient and nonsentient beings.

    Hmmmm. Could be. It is true. Buddhism has survived side by side Confucianism in China and Shinto in Japan and such an arrangement is peaceful. Not like India with it’s constant Hindu Muslim riots. Confucianism mixed with Buddhism could be a good combination. Well you do have a point there.

    Christianity with it’s Abrahamic past does come with some baggage. But in the last some centuries it has progressively changed towards universalism.

    Also during the opium trade many Indian and Jewish merchants made a lot of money from the trade. Not one Indian spoke out against it.
    But Christian missionaries did.

    Scientific evidence of the pernicious nature of opium use was largely undocumented in the 1890s, when Protestant missionaries in China decided to strengthen their opposition to the trade by compiling data which would demonstrate the harm the drug did. Faced with the problem that many Chinese associated Christianity with opium, partly due to the arrival of early Protestant missionaries on opium clippers, at the 1890 Shanghai Missionary Conference, they agreed to establish the Permanent Committee for the Promotion of Anti-Opium Societies in an attempt to overcome this problem and to arouse public opinion against the opium trade. The members of the committee were John Glasgow Kerr, MD, American Presbyterian Mission in Canton; B.C. Atterbury, MD, American Presbyterian Mission in Peking; Archdeacon Arthur E. Moule, Church Missionary Society in Shanghai; Henry Whitney, MD, American Board of Commissioners for foreign Missions in Foochow; the Rev. Samuel Clarke, China Inland Mission in Kweiyang; the Rev. Arthur Gostick Shorrock, English Baptist Mission in Taiyuan; and the Rev. Griffith John, London Mission Society in Hankow.[75] These missionaries were generally outraged over the British government’s Royal Commission on Opium visiting India but not China. Accordingly, the missionaries first organized the Anti-Opium League in China among their colleagues in every mission station in China. American missionary Hampden Coit DuBose acted as first president. This organization, which had elected national officers and held an annual national meeting, was instrumental in gathering data from every Western-trained medical doctor in China, which was then published as William Hector Park compiled Opinions of Over 100 Physicians on the Use of Opium in China (Shanghai: American Presbyterian Mission Press, 1899). The vast majority of these medical doctors were missionaries; the survey also included doctors who were in private practices, particularly in Shanghai and Hong Kong, as well as Chinese who had been trained in medical schools in Western countries. In England, the home director of the China Inland Mission, Benjamin Broomhall, was an active opponent of the opium trade, writing two books to promote the banning of opium smoking: The Truth about Opium Smoking and The Chinese Opium Smoker. In 1888, Broomhall formed and became secretary of the Christian Union for the Severance of the British Empire with the Opium Traffic and editor of its periodical, National Righteousness. He lobbied the British Parliament to stop the opium trade. He and James Laidlaw Maxwell appealed to the London Missionary Conference of 1888 and the Edinburgh Missionary Conference of 1910 to condemn the continuation of the trade. When Broomhall was dying, his son Marshall read to him from The Times the welcome news that an agreement had been signed ensuring the end of the opium trade within two years.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  316. Malla says:
    @Bach

    One of the worst thing about Christianity is the OT and the obsession with shithole israel and all that promised land non sense.

    • Replies: @Bach
  317. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    I disagree.

    Whites may have had a universal morality in concept, but who did it apply to? When whites colonized the Americas, it may have applied to white people but definately not the natives or the subsequent black slaves.

    White people try to expand their morality to other nations through force, not for benign reasons but to try and control other cultures.

    White people have expanded their definition of who they treat morally and who to exclude over time depending on what benefits them.

    This is just tribalism with a slick facade.

    • Replies: @Malla
  318. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    Western societies build schools and hospitals because they know there is a payoff further down the line when they want to control a country or play divide and conquer. The optics are good.

    So what if Asians don’t go to other countries bible in hand. That is a good thing in my book. Let other countries develop on their own. Don’t interfere in their politics and trade with them.

    There is nothing more beneficial that you can do to others than that.

    • Replies: @Malla
  319. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    Except there is one race of people who continuously tries to rule the world. White people.

    China had contact with the new world, but did not conquer or colonize it even though they could have.
    China is a world power but has no interest in colonizing the world. Actually the only people who want to colonize the world are white people.

    You have a very narcissistic point of view if you believe that all the races would try to run the conquer the world playbook that white people used if only they were good enough at it.

    But this is flat out wrong. You really think if Mexico had a top military they would build bases all through the world and bomb people if they resisted?

    The difference is that most countries only wage war when their direct interests are at stake and stop after that. Not white people.

  320. Bach says:
    @Malla

    This is dumb. Every race is racist and religious zealotry is common in most religions.

    Fundamentally, Abrahamic religions are similarly tribal and racist. Christians are least. Jews the most. Muslims somewhere in between.

    Europeans did indeed fight among themselves. A lot. That’s one of my points. They fought often and expanded their notion of the tribe until it became “white” against the “rest of the world”. Slowly, that wall is breaking down as well but not without great difficulties.

    European ethics aren’t truly universal but tribal that just keeps expanding its boundaries.

    Everyone fights and hates. But it’s the nature and degree that is worth noting

    IMO, Europeans were not just fighting for land and resources but was informed by a deep ideology of racism and religious bigotry as well.

    Surrender wasn’t enough, for instance. You had to be killed, colonized, enslaved or confined to open air prisons.

    Missionaries have built schools and hospitals throughout the world. Even today, White Christian charities and volunteers go and help the needy and poor in Africa. Not many Asians do that.

    Because Asians are themselves aid recipients and victims of colonialism. But rich Asians nations have begun to do more “missionary” work.

    The polarity of white “charity work” and racism/warmongering/colonialism is one of the inconsistencies/ironies of Western civilization.

    But Christianity is also a religion of polarities.

    Westerners take things to extremes and then fall to their knees in contrition. And repeat. It’s an endless oscillation between good and evil.

    Hmmmm. Could be. It is true. Buddhism has survived side by side Confucianism in China and Shinto in Japan and such an arrangement is peaceful. Not like India with it’s constant Hindu Muslim riots. Confucianism mixed with Buddhism could be a good combination. Well you do have a point there.

    Confucianism and Buddhism go hand in hand. Zen, the popular form of buddhism in E Asia, is ultimately amoral and asocial. Confucianism fills in the moral/social/political structures. Zen without Confucianism can fall into antinomianism.

    One of the worst thing about Christianity is the OT

    The OT is primitive and archaic. It should be abandoned.

    Christianity doesn’t need the OT. But for historical reasons, they keep it around. And many Christians become duped into applying its tribal/primitive laws to life.

    In contrast, the NT is beautifully progressive, compassionate and inclusive.

    The law, “eye for an eye”, probably justified countless acts of revenge/hate. But this isn’t Christian at all. Jesus exhorted his followers to turn the cheek and forgive.

    Ironically, modern Rabbinic Judaism makes the OT even more horrid by reinforcing its tribalism and narrow definitions of morality.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
    , @Bliss
  321. Bach says:
    @Colleen Pater

    Point is east asians are no less tribal than jews

    Keep on thinking that. Keep on enabling.

  322. Bach says:
    @MarkinLA

    I think the Asian grinder thing is that we want Asians to put more emphasis on things other than work so that we don’t have to also become grinders.

    Sure, no one likes the grinder. We like it easy going and breezy.

    But until Asians are given a fairer opportunity in more corners of Americana, including media, entertainment and political representation, they have no other recourse but to resort to the grind. Or else end up like other minorities.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  323. Bach says:
    @attilathehen

    admit the English empire was the greatest ever

    That might depend on which side you’re standing and the morality you keep.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  324. @Anonymous

    Yeah I agree. Americans said the same about Japan as well. But people apparently like to push this argument backwards in time by trying to state that China had no inventions at all historically and it was only the Ancient Greeks who invented stuff which is simply just wrong, not to mention ridiculous. And this question can be answered with two minutes of google so it is bizarre people are still making this claim. Of course the reason they do this is to try to prove that the Chinese are somehow racially incapable of either innovations or inventions. So they pretend that China had no inventions to speak of historically. The more hardcore types even go so far to pretend only the Ancient Greeks had math and philosophy.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  325. @Anonymous

    The Qing exterminated the Dzungar Empire and one could argue that the Chinese have colonized parts of central Asia ever since. At times in the past the Chinese have extracted tribute from the Koreans and the Vietnamese which is colonization with a different name. The whole Free Tibet movement is about stopping modern day Chinese colonization of Tibet.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @DB Cooper
    , @Bach
  326. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “Harvard’s racial-quota system is indefensible.”

    Aside from what Derb wrote, this statement is false for another reason as well. Why the heck shouldn’t American institutions discriminate against foreigners in the US? We owe them nothing. They should be down-on-their-knees grateful that we allow any of them to enter our great universities. We don’t owe them equal opportunity to the system, nor to scholarships, etc., and most countries (outside of the West) blatantly discriminate in favor of their own over foreigners.

    Out of the choices for the number of immigrants we do allow to come to our land, I think Asians are greatly preferred over say Middle Easterners or Africans. Ideally, to the extent that we do allow foreigners entry, we should discriminate in favor of Asians over these other groups, but less favorably opportunity than native-born American citizens.

  327. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @epochehusserl

    Yes, but compare that to what white people have and are doing.

    Every culture does this to a degree with its neighbors.

    But China and most other cultures have no interest in doing this to the world. They just want to control their local sphere of influence.

    • Replies: @epochehusserl
  328. Bach says:
    @Orwellian State

    I support AA for a different reason. I want our elite schools to admit fewer Asians because it appears many of the Asians who went to elite schools invariable turned into the biggest progressivetards, like Ted Lieu, Theodore Chang, Derrick Watson.

    Asian students at Cal and UCLA are less progressivetards?

    You’re using bad logic. If more Asians were allowed to attend it would signal a shift in ethos.

    I don’t think you appreciate the knock-on effects as well. To the extent the Ivies serve as gatekeepers to status/power, more Asians at elite schools would also allow other Asians to pursue interests outside the conventional and feel free to take more creative risks in their life pursuits.

    • Replies: @Orwellian State
  329. DB Cooper says:
    @epochehusserl

    “The whole Free Tibet movement is about stopping modern day Chinese colonization of Tibet.”

    Nonsense. The British start this thing first when they have an empire in South Asia and the Raj’s expansionism northward start to bump into territory traditionally Tibetan. Britain then was trying to carve Tibet from China. (Just like Russia was trying to carve Mongolia out from China.) Had the Raj stay in South Asia Tibet probably would be part of the Raj’s territory. After China became Communist the US pick up where the British had left and funded the Tibetan independence movement and the Dalai Lama. Dalai Lama was in the CIA payroll since the 1950s.

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
  330. @Rdm

    damn, you must hate the chinese for being so much smarter than you right? only way to explain the hate :)))

  331. @Art Deco

    well, describe the methods used and compare them to Ron’s method in his article.

  332. DB Cooper says:
    @DB Cooper

    Britain never apologize what it did to China regarding Tibet although in 2008 the British government release a statement reversing its stance on Tibet and recognizes China’s sovereignty on Tibet. Until then Britain was alone among other countries that recognize China’s suzerainty of Tibet but not sovereignty. The tone of the statement is almost apologetic but it was not an apology.

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  333. @random rand

    when in fear of being over taken, the knee jerk, face saving reaction is to smear :)

  334. Bach says:
    @epochehusserl

    Based on the Wiki article, the Manchus “exterminated” the Dzungar people following a rebellion and their refusal to surrender. Even so, it states that the “old and weak” were to be spared as well as those that chose to surrender.

    I’m not sure “colonize” is quite the right word. When new territories are added to the empire as well as the people in it without prejudice, that’s not quite the same thing as the English and their “colonies”, for instance.

    As for the Chines tributary system, it’s not quite like what we might think.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Tributary_System

    It was a formality and really a system of trade.

  335. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Bach

    IMO, Europeans were not just fighting for land and resources but was informed by a deep ideology of racism and religious bigotry as well.

    I can’t believe so much nonsense has accumulated in one thread.. The BS notion of “racism” is a commie/jewish invention that was used against Europeans. Every group has always been “prejudice” against the out-group, whether it be a religion, nation, tribe, caste, family, ect.. It was just considered normal life; it was never called “racism”. Non-whites in Western countries often use “racism” in an attempt to generate sympathy that is favorable to their own “in-group” among White folks. This tactic to further their own agenda, under a deceitful pretense, is almost never used against non-whites because it is already well understood that it would never work against them.

    victims of colonialism.

    At no other point in history could supposed “victims of colonialism” generate any sympathy. What a pathetic strategy… It’s sad to see Asians resorting to the kind of rhetoric that is usually used by Blacks and Browns. Fortunately, most Asians I’ve known are above such a thing, unlike you..

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  336. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Bach

    But until Asians are given a fairer opportunity in more corners of Americana, including media, entertainment and political representation, they have no other recourse but to resort to the grind.

    Are you telling me Asians don’t have their own countries do these things? Or are they not able to because of *excuses*?

    • Replies: @Bach
  337. Bach says:
    @anonymous

    The BS notion of “racism” is a commie/jewish invention that was used against Europeans.

    Commies and Jews are European.

    Every group has always been “prejudice” against the out-group, whether it be a religion, nation, tribe, caste, family, ect

    Racism developed in Europe isn’t just simple prejudice but a sophisticated ideology.

    It’s sad to see Asians resorting to the kind of rhetoric

    Not sure what you mean. It wasn’t meant to garner sympathy. It was just a statement of fact. Asians were victims of colonialism. They were poor. They were hardly in a position to do charity work abroad.

  338. Bach says:
    @anonymous

    Are you telling me Asians don’t have their own countries do these things? Or are they not able to because of *excuses*?

    I was speaking to Americans of Asian background.

  339. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    China had contact with the new world, but did not conquer or colonize it even though they could have.
    China is a world power but has no interest in colonizing the world.

    Give me a break.. China has historically had enough trouble just trying to rule China.

    Actually the only people who want to colonize the world are white people.

    Who else has had the ability?

    But this is flat out wrong. You really think if Mexico had a top military they would build bases all through the world and bomb people if they resisted?

    Lol… Mexicans who are busy stabbing each other in narco-wars are going to have a top military any day now.. right… And then I’m to believe that if they somehow “had a top military”, they would nobly resist the temptation to take advantage of this by scoring easy victories over weaker countries… I’ve lived around Mexicans and Hispanics growing up. You are silly..

  340. @Anonymous

    The Chinese Tributary System shaped foreign policy and trade for over 2000 years of Chinese countries’s economic and cultural dominance of the region, and thus played a huge role in the History of East Asia in particular.[2]

    The traditional Chinese international structure was different from many other systems developed in other parts of the world. First, it was premised on the belief that China was the cultural center of the world and that foreigners were “less civilized” or “barbarians.” Second, since the Chinese state was considered the center of all humankind, most other foreign rulers were expected to recognize the prominence of the Chinese court.[4]
    ————————————————-
    this sounds an awful lot like what you accuse Europeans of doing. I don’t expect non-whites to engage in self-reflection so your double-talk is amusing to me. BTW, in Mongolia they still have statues of Genghis Khan to celebrate the time when Asians were able to conquer the world.

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  341. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Bach

    Jews are European

    There is a distinction.

    Racism developed in Europe isn’t just simple prejudice but a sophisticated ideology.

    Yet you cannot seem to explain in what way European “racism” is different than “racism” exhibited by non-whites… Is non-white “racism” Just less “sophisticated”?

    I was speaking to Americans of Asian background.

    That’s my point. Asians have their own countries, yet you come to America and start demanding “gibs” and crying about “racism”… It doesn’t seem to occur to you that there is a lot more going on in present day American race relations other than “wah wah, whites are racists! wah!”. If you can’t analyze the situation on more nuanced level, then there is no hope for you…

    I personally don’t have a problem Asians in the US at all, but a mass of people with attitudes like yours wont make for productive assimilation. In any case, you might be happier in your ethnic country of origin, no?

    • Replies: @Bach
  342. Bach says:
    @anonymous

    There is a distinction.

    Sure, but the common ground is that they both emerged from the European continent.

    Yet you cannot seem to explain in what way European “racism” is different than “racism” exhibited by non-whites… Is non-white “racism” Just less “sophisticated”?

    European racism is not just predicated on simple ethnocentrism but deep religious bigotry and a philosophical/scientific construct that rationalized their sense of innate superiority.

    That’s my point. Asians have their own countries, yet you come to America and start demanding “gibs” and crying about “racism”

    No.

    Lots of people come to America.

    Asians aren’t asking for any special favors, buddy. Just transparent rules and equal enforcement of those rules.

    And I was speaking to the issue of the “grind”. Asians are forced to “grind”, I explained, because that’s really the only way to get ahead when other doors are closed.

    Now, that’s not crying. It’s an attempt at understanding.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  343. Malla says:
    @Anonymous

    Except there is one race of people who continuously tries to rule the world. White people

    False. Given the chance, everybody would like to rule the world. Whites were more successful at it. China does not colonize now maybe because they do not have that intention but also because, it is not easy to go and make colonies in this day and age unlike in the past. But given the chance most people would have wanted to create a British Empire. What about the Mongols? What about the spread of Islam? What about Asian, native American and Asian kingdoms making Empires? Europeans had superiority in technology and logistics which allowed them to build such huge empires. They were not more evil than others.

    On the other hand, other races might have been more brutal to their colonies, had they got the ability to do so.

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  344. Thomm says:
    @Malla

    Malla,

    This is a common mistake. A decent-looking white woman sees a lot of needy, lonely men in White Nationalist circles, and extracts money from them. The most recent one was Lauren Southern :

    http://www.returnofkings.com/141566/the-dissident-right-is-being-subverted-by-fame-seeking-women

    I applaud her for swindling these WN loser males; the natural order is thus restored.

    Remember that unless a white woman is produce white babies in large numbers explicitly for WN causes, she is just socking these loser males with the tab, and this will keep happening endlessly (as it should).

    These better-looking ones that you point to are not committed to WN to the extent of reproduction.

    Remember that countless white guys have exposed WN as a goddess cult, which is why it has so much in common with feminism :

    http://www.antifeministtech.info/2011/04/white-nationalism-is-a-goddess-cult/

    • Replies: @Malla
  345. Malla says:
    @Bach

    IMO, Europeans were not just fighting for land and resources but was informed by a deep ideology of racism and religious bigotry as well.

    Surrender wasn’t enough, for instance. You had to be killed, colonized, enslaved or confined to open air prisons.

    Not true. Europeans are no more racist than other races. All races are racist upto some extent. Most religions want to spread. Every part of the world have empire builders. Europeans just had superior logistics and technology. Arabs enslaved black Africans too. Black Africans enslaved other black Africans. Zulus decimated many other black tribes. The Dahomey were a Spartan like warrior people who loved conquest and war. Aztecs conquered their enemies and sacrificed them to their gods. Turks enslaved Europeans. Mongols decimated entire regions. Mongols decimated White people of Central Asia. Central Asia was full of White people once like the Scythians, Cumans and Alans. Where did they disappear?

    The Muslims killed millions of Hindus and many Hindus as slaves

    The Islamic holocaust of India

    The British were far better.
    Lets see some laws passed by the British Government in India

    Bengal Sati Regulation, 1829

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_Sati_Regulation,_1829

    The Bengal Sati Regulation,[nb 1] or Regulation XVII, A. D. 1829 of the Bengal Code was a legal act promulgated in British India under East India Company rule, by the then Governor-General Lord William Bentinck, which made the practice of sati or suttee—or the immolation of a Hindu widow on the funeral pyre of her deceased husband—illegal in all jurisdictions of British India and subject to prosecution.

    Female Infanticide Prevention Act, 1870

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_Infanticide_Prevention_Act,_1870

    The Female Infanticide Prevention Act, 1870,[1] also Act VIII of 1870 was a legislative act passed in British India, to prevent murder of female infants. The Section 7 of this Act declared that it was initially applicable only to the territories of Oudh, North-Western Provinces and Punjab, but the Act authorized the Governor General to extend the law to any other district or province of the British Raj at his discretion.[2]
    The law authorized the creation of a police force to maintain birth, marriage and death registers, to conduct census of the district at its discretion, enforce a special tax on the district to pay for the expenses and entertainment of said police officers.[2] The Act also stipulated a prison sentence of six months or a fine of thirty thousand rupees, or both, on anyone who disobeyed or obstructed the police officers enforcing the Act.[4] Section 6 of the Act allowed the police officer to seize a child from any person he suspects may neglect or endanger any female child, as well as force collect a monthly fee from that person.[5]

    Hindu Widows’ Remarriage Act, 1856

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_Widows%27_Remarriage_Act,_1856

    The Hindu Widows’ Remarriage Act, 1856, also Act XV, 1856, enacted on 26 July 1856, legalise the remarriage of Hindu widows in all jurisdictions of India under East India Company rule.[1]
    To protect what it considered family honour and family property, upper-caste Hindu society had long disallowed the remarriage of widows, even child and adolescent ones, all of whom were expected to live a life of austerity and abnegation.[2] The Hindu Widows’ Remarriage Act of 1856, enacted in response to the campaign of Pandit Ishwar Chandra Vidyasagar,[3] provided legal safeguards against loss of certain forms of inheritance for a remarrying Hindu widow,[2] though, under the Act, the widow forsook any inheritance due her from her deceased husband.[4]Especially targeted in the act were Hindu child widows whose husbands had died before consummation of marriage.[5]

    Age of Consent Act, 1891

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Consent_Act,_1891

    The Age of Consent Act, 1891, also Act X of 1891, was a legislation enacted in British India on 19 March 1891 which raised the age of consent for sexual intercourse for all girls, married or unmarried, from ten to twelve years in all jurisdictions, its violation subject to criminal prosecution as rape.[1][nb 1] The act was an amendment of the Indian Penal Code and Code of Criminal Procedure, Section 375, 1882, (“Of Rape”),[nb 2] and was introduced as a bill on 9 January 1891 by Sir Andrew Scoble in the Legislative Council of the Governor-General of India in Calcutta.[2] It was debated the same day and opposed by council member Sir Romesh Chunder Mitter (from Bengal) on the grounds that it interfered with orthodox Hindu code, but supported by council member Rao Bahadur Krishnaji Lakshman Nulkar (from Bombay) and by the President of the council, the Governor-General and Viceroy Lord Lansdowne.[2][3][nb 3] While an 1880 case in a Bombay high court by a child-bride, Rukhmabai, renewed discussion of such a law, the death of an eleven-year-old Bengali girl, Phulomnee, due to forceful intercourse by her 35-year-old husband in 1889, necessitated intervention by the British.[4] The act was passed in 1891. It received support from Indian reformers such as Behramji Malabari and women social organisations. The law was never seriously enforced and it is argued that the real effect of the law was reassertion of Hindu patriarchal control over domestic issues as a nationalistic cause.

    Indian Slavery Act, 1843

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Slavery_Act,_1843

    The Indian Slavery Act, 1843, also Act V of 1843, was an act passed in British India under East India Company rule, which outlawed many economic transactions associated with slavery. The sale of any person as a slave was banned, and anyone buying or selling slaves would be booked under the Indian Penal Code, with offence carrying strict punishment

    Child Marriage Restraint Act

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_Marriage_Restraint_ActChild

    Marriage Restraint Act 1929, passed on 28 September 1929 in the British India Legislature of India, fixed the age of marriage for girls at 14 years and boys at 18 years which was later amended to 18 for girls and 21 for boys. It is popularly known as the Sarda Act, after its sponsor Harbilas Sarda. It came into effect six months later on April 1, 1930 and it applies to all of British India, not just to Hindus.[1][2][3] It was a result of social reform movement in India. The legislation was passed by the British Indian Government.[4]

    Ancient Monuments Preservation Act 1904

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Monuments_Preservation_Act_1904

    The Ancient Monuments Preservation Act, 1904 was passed in 18, March 1904 by British India during the times of Lord Curzon. it is expedient to provide for the preservation of ancient monuments, for the exercise of control over traffic in antiquities and over excavation in certain places, and for the protection and acquisition in certain cases of ancient monuments and of objects of archaeological, historical or artistic interest. Act preserves and restores ancient Indian monuments by Archaeological Survey of India.

    Hindu Inheritance (Removal of Disabilities) Act, 1928 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_Inheritance_(Removal_of_Disabilities)_Act,_1928
    The Hindu Inheritance (Removal of Disabilities) Act, 1928 was enacted to abolish the exclusion from inheritance of certain classes of heirs, and to remove certain doubts regarding their ability to inherit property. The Act specifies that persons who are diseased, deformed or physically or mentally handicapped cannot be disqualified from their right to own or share joint-family property unless the law specifies otherwise.

    Punjab Land Alienation Act, 1900

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punjab_Land_Alienation_Act,_1900

    The advent of British rule in India had led to a trend whereby ownership rights to land were increasingly concentrated in the hands of urban moneylenders and other commercial communities among the Hindu population. They were assigned the property previously held by poor peasants, who either sold or mortgaged for the short-term benefit derived from the increasing values of land caused by improved agricultural methods, irrigation and communications. Such transfers were enforceable under law but, in British eyes, potentially damaging to their colonial administration because they might ultimately result in a disaffected rural peasant population. British law was effectively supporting the growth of a class of people — the new owners — that might prove detrimental to its own purpose. In addition, historian Kenneth Jones says that the transfers were contrary to British sentiments: “Not only did this development threaten the stability and peace of the Punjab, it also struck at the British self-image of benevolent and paternalistic protectors of the lowly peasant”.

    Europeans also eliminated slavery in Africa. Indeed Gordon of Khartoum was hated by the local powerful Sudanese elites for his elimination of slavery.

    Because Asians are themselves aid recipients and victims of colonialism.

    It is not as simple as that. Whites go to Africa and help the poor and some even do so in Asia. This is because the concept of charity is very important in Western civilization as well as Christianity. Look I know the flaws in Christianity, I agree with you but Christianity has some positive features too. I am not Christian but I cannot ignore this. There are many rich Asians but very few of them care about other ethnic groups as much as Whites do, Christian or not. Even rich Africans themselves are not that much into charity towards other Africans to the extent as White people are.

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    , @Orwellian State
  346. Thomm says:
    @Malla

    I am Indian but I do not think Thomm is Indian

    Of course I am not Indian. I am a white guy. I didn’t even like Indians all that much, except that they are very useful in annoying these WN retards, who comprise the pollution in the white race. So WNs made me like Indians (and Chinese, and legal Mexicans, and so forth).

    What is particularly odd is that an Indian like Malla wants to appease WNs. They will never, ever, ever give him any honorary status or whatever else he seeks, and will only ever treat him with seething hatred. I fear he will learn this the hard way.

    Remember that WNs are not represented by mainstream whites, and are quite hated by them (white variance in looks, talent, character, and brains is extremely high).

    I mean, for all of Razib Khan’s brilliant writings, they hate him because he married a white girl and had children with her.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
    , @Anonymous
  347. Malla says:
    @Bach

    Racism developed in Europe isn’t just simple prejudice but a sophisticated ideology.

    Not true, check this out.

    Zanj is an Arabic term for blacks and hence Zanzibar.
    Arab and Persian writers on black Africans

    “Of the neighbors of the Bujja, Maqdisi had heard that “there is no marriage among them; the child does not know his father, and they eat people — but God knows best. As for the Zanj, they are people of black color, flat noses, kinky hair, and little understanding or intelligence.”
    Maqdisi (fl. 966 AD), _Kitab al-Bad’_, vol.4

    “The geographer al-Idrisi ascribes ‘lack of knowledge and defective minds’ to the black peoples. Their ignorance, he says, is notorious; men of learning and distinction are almost unknown among them, and their kings only acquire what they know about government and justice from the instruction of learned visitors from farther north.”
    Bernard Lewis, 1990, Race and Slavery in the Middle East.

    “Like the crow among mankind are the Zanj for they are the worst of men and the most vicious of creatures in character and temperament.”
    Jahiz, _Kitab al-Hayawan_, vol. 2

    “[inhabitants of sub-Saharan African countries] are people distant from the standards of humanity” “Their nature is that of wild animals….”
    Persian geography _Hudud al-`alam_, 982 AD

    “We know that the Zanj (blacks) are the least intelligent and the least discerning of mankind, and the least capable of understanding the consequences of actions.”
    Jahiz (d. 868 AD), _Kitab al-Bukhala’

    “They [the Shu`ubiyya] maintain that eloquence is prized by all people at all times — even the Zanj, despite their dimness, their boundless stupidity, their obtuseness, their crude perceptions and their evil dispositions, make long speeches.”
    Jahiz, Al-Bayan wa`l-tabyin, vol. 3

    “Galen says that merriment dominates the black man because of his defective brain, whence also the weakness of his intelligence.”
    Mas`udi (d. 956 AD), Muruj al-dhahab_

    “As regards southern countries, all their inhabitants are black on account of the heat of their climate… Most of them go naked… In all their lands and provinces, gold is found…. They are people distant from the standards of humanity.”
    Hudud al-`Alam_, Persian geography, 982 AD

    “The Zanj are so uncivilized that they have no notion of a natural death. If a man dies a natural death, they think he was poisoned. Every death is suspicious with them, if a man has not been killed by a weapon.”
    Abu Rayhan al-Biruni, _India_, 1030 AD

    About the Zanj: “Their nature is that of wild animals. They are extremely black.” About the Sudan: “Among themselves there are people who steal each other’s children and sell them to the merchants when the latter arrive.”
    Hudud al-`Alam_, 982 AD

    “If (all types of men) are taken, from the first, and one placed after another, like the Negro from Zanzibar, in the Southern-most countries, the Negro does not differ from an animal in anything except the fact that his hands have been lifted from the earth,–in no other peculiarity or property,–except for what God wished. Many have seen that the ape is more capable of being trained than the Negro, and more intelligent.”
    “Therefore, the Negro nation are, as a rule, submissive to slavery, because [Negroes] have little [that is essentially] human and have attributes that are quite similar to those of dumb animals, as we have stated.”
    Ibn Khaldun, _Muqaddimah_, 14th century AD

    “A man of discernment said: The people of Iraq … do not come out with something between blonde, buff and blanched coloring, such as the infants dropped from the wombs of the women of the Slavs and others of similar light complexion; nor are they overdone in the womb until they are burned, so that the child comes out something between black, murky, malodorous, stinking, and crinkly-haired, with uneven limbs, deficient minds, and depraved passions, such as the Zanj, the Somali, and other blacks who resemble them. The Iraqis are neither half-baked dough nor burned crust but between the two.”
    Ibn al-Faqih al-Hamadani, _Mukhtasar Kitab al-Buldan_, 903 AD

    “beyond [known peoples of black West Africa] to the south there is no civilization in the proper sense. There are only humans who are closer to dumb animals than to rational beings. They live in thickets and caves, and eat herbs and unprepared grain. They frequently eat each other. They cannot be considered human beings.”
    Ibn Khaldun, _Muqaddimah_

    “[Blacks] are ugly and misshapen, because they live in a hot country.”
    Ibn Qutayba (828-89 A.D.)

    “The Zanj are slight-witted (_kam ‘aql_), and God, most high, has created them stupid, ignorant, and foul (_palid_).”
    anonymous, Iskandarnamah, 1343 AD

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  348. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @epochehusserl

    I already addressed this, but you are trying to duck the point.

    The issue isn’t that other people haven’t colonized or engaged in heinous acts against others. Of course they have.

    The point is a matter of scale. China isn’t interested in trying to control the world like white people are doing now and have always tried to do in the past.

    Neither are Indians or the red man or Africans. Only white people seem hell bent on trying to tell everyone else what they can do and bombing everyone.

    • Replies: @epochehusserl
  349. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Bach

    Jews emerged from the Middle East, probably around the Levant. They identify themselves as Jews, and consider themselves to be a distinct group. They do not view White Europeans as being part of their group.

    Literally every group rationalized their sense of innate superiority…

    Just transparent rules and equal enforcement of those rules.

    You can thank Jews for unequal enforcement and a lack of transparency. Even more so for media, entertainment, ect..

    This hurts Whites as well. Asians have the option of going back to their own countries so they don’t have to deal with all of those horribly racist Whites whom they keep following around for some reason.

    • Replies: @Bach
  350. Malla says:
    @Thomm

    A decent-looking white woman sees a lot of needy, lonely men in White Nationalist circles, and extracts money from them.

    That may be true for Lauren Southern but it is a big assumption to make this is true for all of them.
    Lana for example is married to Henrik and both are White nationalists.

    Also check this out

    Beautiful Eastern European girls compete for the miss Hitler crown

    Remember that countless white guys have exposed WN as a goddess cult, which is why it has so much in common with feminism :

    http://www.antifeministtech.info/2011/04/white-nationalism-is-a-goddess-cult/

    From the website

    From Bill Price (aka Welmer):

    Oh, bullshit. White nationalism is a goddess cult, plain and simple. HE called it straight.

    Since when did white nationalists put the responsibility for “impurity” on the white women screwing around? It’s always the Jews’ and blacks’ fault when white women won’t keep their pants on…

    White nationalists saying “white women can do no wrong” is what makes white nationalism effectively just another form of feminism. White nationalism is really white knight nationalism.

    What kind of logic is the above???

    Seriously, you wanna talk about saving the women of the tribe as feminism????

    This shows how abnormal the West is where protecting you own women from other men is considered abnormal but for the rest of the world it is normal practice. Indeed men from other parts of the world LOOK DOWN upon White men for not protecting their women.

    All those Indians you talk about, many of them are Hinduvadis, take that from me. The Hindu fundamentalist BJP is now the ruling party of India with an overwhelming majority in parliament.

    The Hindutva parties in India always talk about love Jihad or Muslim men going after Hindu women.

    Recently one Muslim was killed by hindus for dating a Hindu woman. Hindu men stopping other men from marrying their women is a big thing here with squads of Hindu goons are stopping such couples.

    Rajasthan Hate Crime: Muslim Hate New Normal?
    Muslim man burnt alive because he dared to marry a Hindu girl. The Hindu girl was not touched, only the Muslim man was killed. I would like to see any of you go infront of a bunch of Hinduvadi goons and telling them they are feminsists. LOL.

    Don’t Hindu Girls Have Rights? | The Newshour Debate

    The Hindu fundamentalist BJP is the ruling power in India. It is similar to a Neo nazi party coming to power in the USA. And with them coming to power, right winged thugs are everywhere attacking beef eaters, couples. And all those Indians in the USA you talk about so much, a major chunk of them will be right winged Hinduvadi supporters. There is a ‘Friends of BJP’ in the USA and some of the most successful Indians in the USA support this group.

    Also check this out. This problem exists in Israel too.

    Sex with Jewish girl costs Arab man 18 months in Israeli jail

    Lehava: The Israeli Group Keeping Jewish/Arab Lovers Apart
    Check out these right winged Jewish losers trying to keep their women finding love with Arab men.

    This is common throughout the World.

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  351. Malla says:
    @Thomm

    What is particularly odd is that an Indian like Malla wants to appease WNs. They will never, ever, ever give him any honorary status or whatever else he seeks, and will only ever treat him with seething hatred. I fear he will learn this the hard way.

    I seek no honorary status. I want the West, Europe and USA to be majority White and Right Winged because a strong traditional West will keep the Right Winged crack pots from the other parts of the World from emerging from the shadows like cockroaches. If you think WNs are bad (most are not) you have not seen the right wing in other parts of the world. White nationalist are a million times more rational and sensible than other right wingers crackpots like Hinduvadis, Islamic flunkies, right winged hasidic Jews in Israel. The Middle East (Israel as well as the Arabs) and India are slowly sliding back to it’s backward brutal dark age. It is only a overwhelmingly White, traditional West, even the presence of something like that in the world will give the rationalists in the Third world confidence to fight back.

    Hinduvadi rightwingers want to bring back the brutal caste system. They will take India to a dark age. A Majority of the Indians in the USA support these Hinduvadis. They see the destruction of the White race with glee. A 100% homogeneous White Britain scares them. A White majority America like it was in 1965 scares these rats.

  352. Malla says:
    @Thomm

    I mean, for all of Razib Khan’s brilliant writings, they hate him because he married a white girl and had children with her.

    But that is normal human behaviour throughout the world. You can bring a non Indian Nobel prize winner to India and many families will not give their daughter in marriage to him. Even highly educated top industrialist families will not prefer their daughter marry someone from a different race even if he is a genius.

    Check this out

    https://qz.com/372192/a-brown-woman-with-a-white-man-brings-out-the-worst-in-indians/

    A brown woman with a white man brings out the worst in Indians

    By the fourth day of our vacation on the islands, we had got used to being stared at. But when curious glances turned to quizzical looks, we began to realise that we were considered an oddity: A brown woman with a white man.

    “Who is he?” one of the two women asked me as soon as my husband left my side. “My husband,” I replied after a while, snapping out of savouring my first-ever snorkelling session. She then asked me questions about our wedding and everything that had led to it. Then the other woman, who had remained silent until then, asked me for proof.

    snip
    ……

    When many Indians see one of their women with a man of a different race, they make assumptions, and offer unsolicited advice. An Indian woman who has got a white man must be enlightened, even by complete strangers. A lawyer whose services I was seeking for a few marriage-related formalities started by giving me a sermon on running a background check on the man I wanted to marry because “you never know how these firangs are.” I didn’t call on her again.

    ….snip….

    Ketki Pradhan, a French teacher in Pondicherry, told me about the time she was holding her German boyfriend’s hand when a group of men started making vulgar gestures. “One of them grabbed my other hand and held it very tightly for a few seconds, and ran away,” Pradhan recalled. “I was so angry that I shrieked, and we ran after them. At first, he laughed. Then seeing that I was not going to go, he apologised.”

    Another time, a group of men sneered as they passed by the young couple: “Hum mein kya kami thi joh iss gore ke saath chali gayi? (what do we lack that you chose this white guy?)”

    My friend Neha Belvalkar’s first visit to India after two years in a film school in the US was “appalling,” in her words. Chris, her American boyfriend, had accompanied her. One day when walking on a street in Pune, Neha’s hometown, a biker slowed down near the couple and almost hit her. She asked him to watch where he was going. She said she sensed a mix of repressed fury and lust in the man’s tone, when he hissed back: “I will f*** you.”

    To many Indians, the idea of a mixed-race couple is alien, repulsive even.

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  353. Thomm says:
    @Malla

    That may be true for Lauren Southern but it is a big assumption to make this is true for all of them.

    There are many listed in that article. This is a universal phenomenon in America.

    I don’t care about Eastern Europe and that is not what we are talking about. In America, there are virtually no decent-looking women in WN, except to fleece the loser WN males.

    From the article I linked :

    White nationalists saying “white women can do no wrong” is what makes white nationalism effectively just another form of feminism. White nationalism is really white knight nationalism.

    Yes, saying women have no agency, and should not be held accountable for their own behavior, IS feminism. That is why all race-centric ideologies immediately start over-valuing the woman (since women are the scarcer reproductive resource).

    And all those Indians in the USA you talk about so much, a major chunk of them will be right winged Hinduvadi supporters.

    I thought you said 85% of Indians in the US vote Democrat. Nonetheless, I don’t think Modi is any more connected to extremists than Trump is connected to US White Nationalists (i.e. he isn’t).

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  354. Malla says:
    @Anonymous

    Western societies build schools and hospitals because they know there is a payoff further down the line when they want to control a country or play divide and conquer. The optics are good.

    Completely false. Indeed if they had not educated the natives, their empires would have been secure. It were the educated natives who succeeded in gaining independence from their European Empires. Yeah teaching a native about the French revolution and American revolution. Europeans were sure dumb.

  355. Thomm says:
    @Malla

    First of all, White Nationalism is a left-wing ideology. Their economics views are socialist, they want tariffs, etc.

    The KKK in the US was left-wing (Democrat). Nazi Germany was left-wing (Nazi actually stands for ‘National Socialist’).

    Radical Islam is also left-wing, which is why the Western Left (Obama, etc.) were so enamored with it.

    The only thing that is right-wing is free-market, small government ideology.

    Plus, I am here to tell you that ‘White Nationalism’ in the US is a ridiculed, fringe ideology. Hatreon only got $20,000 in donations. Trump has done nothing to help these fringe losers, and no mainstream candidate will.

    To extend your opposition to Hinduwadi Indians (whatever they are) into support of US White Trashionalists, in the hope that they stop even skilled immigation to the US (some of whom are Indians), since those Indians support Hinduwadi despite being Obama-loving Democrats in the US, is very flawed logic.

    and India are slowly sliding back to it’s backward brutal dark age.

    As the fastest growing economy in the world at present? It may be backward, but it is not becoming MORE backward.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  356. Malla says:
    @Anonymous

    Whites may have had a universal morality in concept, but who did it apply to? When whites colonized the Americas, it may have applied to white people but definately not the natives or the subsequent black slaves.

    And why did Whites ban slavery???

    After the formation of the Committee for the Abolition of the Slave Trade in 1787, William Wilberforce led the cause of abolition through the parliamentary campaign. Thomas Clarkson became the group’s most prominent researcher, gathering vast amounts of data on the trade. One aspect of abolitionism during this period was the effective use of images such as the famous Josiah Wedgwood “Am I Not A Man And A Brother?” anti-slavery medallion of 1787. Clarkson described the medallion as “promoting the cause of justice, humanity and freedom”.[23][24] The Slave Trade Act was passed by the British Parliament on 25 March 1807, making the slave trade illegal throughout the British Empire.[25] Britain used its influence to coerce other countries to agree to treaties to end their slave trade and allow the Royal Navy to seize their slave ships.[26][27] Britain did enforce the abolition of the trade because the act made trading slaves within British territories illegal. However, the act repealed the effort to improve conditions for slaves: amelioration. The end of the slave trade did not end slavery as a whole. Slavery was still a common practice.

    Thomas Clarkson was the key speaker at the British and Foreign Anti-Slavery Society’s (today known as Anti-Slavery International) first conference in London, 1840

    In the 1820s, the abolitionist movement revived to campaign against the institution of slavery itself. In 1823 the first Anti-Slavery Society was founded. Many of its members had previously campaigned against the slave trade. On August 28, 1833, the Slavery Abolition Act was given Royal Assent, which paved the way for the abolition of slavery throughout the British Empire, which was substantially achieved in 1838. In 1839, the British and Foreign Anti-Slavery Society was formed by Joseph Sturge, which attempted to outlaw slavery worldwide and also to pressure the government to help enforce the suppression of the slave trade by declaring slave traders pirates. The world’s oldest international human rights organization, it continues today as Anti-Slavery International.[28] Thomas Clarkson was the key speaker at the first conference in London in 1840. In 1846 Clarkson was host to Frederick Douglass, a prominent African-American abolitionist, on his first visit to England.[29] At risk after passage in the US of the Fugitive Slave Law of 1850, Douglass became legally free in England when British friends raised the money and negotiated purchase of his freedom from his American former slave master.[30][31]

    White people try to expand their morality to other nations through force, not for benign reasons but to try and control other cultures.

    White people have expanded their definition of who they treat morally and who to exclude over time depending on what benefits them.

    This is just tribalism with a slick facade.

    Not true at all. Whites banned Sati in India, where Hindu women would jump at her husbands funeral pyre. Europeans banned it. What did they gain by that? Whites may have done bad things but Western civilization had a tendency towards universal morality which very few other civilizations had. But Western Universalism is harming White people as a race. Other races are not becoming Universalist, all of them are still tribal but demand from Whites to loose whatever little tribalism they have. Indians in the UK speak with glee about Britain turning into a gutter third world brown black country. But if I tell them what if we get Africans in India, and you should see the look of horror in their faces. ‘Those monkeys deserve to be in zoos’ is their reply. Same with Bangladeshis and Arabs.
    What White people need to do is get rid of this universalism and become tribalists. if the islamic world slips back into sharia maria, let them. if the Hindu world slides back into caste brutality and taboo superstitions, let them I say. If Africans go back to more tribalism and even slavery, let them I say. If Israel turns into a Ultraorthodox sewer, let it I say. Whites need to become more tribal.

    Check out these British laws passed in India

    Some “evil laws” passed in British Ruled India
    Bengal Sati Regulation, 1829

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_Sati_Regulation,_1829

    The Bengal Sati Regulation,[nb 1] or Regulation XVII, A. D. 1829 of the Bengal Code was a legal act promulgated in British India under East India Company rule, by the then Governor-General Lord William Bentinck, which made the practice of sati or suttee—or the immolation of a Hindu widow on the funeral pyre of her deceased husband—illegal in all jurisdictions of British India and subject to prosecution.

    Female Infanticide Prevention Act, 1870

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_Infanticide_Prevention_Act,_1870

    The Female Infanticide Prevention Act, 1870,[1] also Act VIII of 1870 was a legislative act passed in British India, to prevent murder of female infants. The Section 7 of this Act declared that it was initially applicable only to the territories of Oudh, North-Western Provinces and Punjab, but the Act authorized the Governor General to extend the law to any other district or province of the British Raj at his discretion.[2]
    The law authorized the creation of a police force to maintain birth, marriage and death registers, to conduct census of the district at its discretion, enforce a special tax on the district to pay for the expenses and entertainment of said police officers.[2] The Act also stipulated a prison sentence of six months or a fine of thirty thousand rupees, or both, on anyone who disobeyed or obstructed the police officers enforcing the Act.[4] Section 6 of the Act allowed the police officer to seize a child from any person he suspects may neglect or endanger any female child, as well as force collect a monthly fee from that person.[5]

    Hindu Widows’ Remarriage Act, 1856

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_Widows%27_Remarriage_Act,_1856

    The Hindu Widows’ Remarriage Act, 1856, also Act XV, 1856, enacted on 26 July 1856, legalise the remarriage of Hindu widows in all jurisdictions of India under East India Company rule.[1]
    To protect what it considered family honour and family property, upper-caste Hindu society had long disallowed the remarriage of widows, even child and adolescent ones, all of whom were expected to live a life of austerity and abnegation.[2] The Hindu Widows’ Remarriage Act of 1856, enacted in response to the campaign of Pandit Ishwar Chandra Vidyasagar,[3] provided legal safeguards against loss of certain forms of inheritance for a remarrying Hindu widow,[2] though, under the Act, the widow forsook any inheritance due her from her deceased husband.[4]Especially targeted in the act were Hindu child widows whose husbands had died before consummation of marriage.[5]

    Age of Consent Act, 1891

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Consent_Act,_1891

    The Age of Consent Act, 1891, also Act X of 1891, was a legislation enacted in British India on 19 March 1891 which raised the age of consent for sexual intercourse for all girls, married or unmarried, from ten to twelve years in all jurisdictions, its violation subject to criminal prosecution as rape.[1][nb 1] The act was an amendment of the Indian Penal Code and Code of Criminal Procedure, Section 375, 1882, (“Of Rape”),[nb 2] and was introduced as a bill on 9 January 1891 by Sir Andrew Scoble in the Legislative Council of the Governor-General of India in Calcutta.[2] It was debated the same day and opposed by council member Sir Romesh Chunder Mitter (from Bengal) on the grounds that it interfered with orthodox Hindu code, but supported by council member Rao Bahadur Krishnaji Lakshman Nulkar (from Bombay) and by the President of the council, the Governor-General and Viceroy Lord Lansdowne.[2][3][nb 3] While an 1880 case in a Bombay high court by a child-bride, Rukhmabai, renewed discussion of such a law, the death of an eleven-year-old Bengali girl, Phulomnee, due to forceful intercourse by her 35-year-old husband in 1889, necessitated intervention by the British.[4] The act was passed in 1891. It received support from Indian reformers such as Behramji Malabari and women social organisations. The law was never seriously enforced and it is argued that the real effect of the law was reassertion of Hindu patriarchal control over domestic issues as a nationalistic cause.

    Indian Slavery Act, 1843

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Slavery_Act,_1843

    The Indian Slavery Act, 1843, also Act V of 1843, was an act passed in British India under East India Company rule, which outlawed many economic transactions associated with slavery. The sale of any person as a slave was banned, and anyone buying or selling slaves would be booked under the Indian Penal Code, with offence carrying strict punishment

    Child Marriage Restraint Act

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_Marriage_Restraint_ActChild

    Marriage Restraint Act 1929, passed on 28 September 1929 in the British India Legislature of India, fixed the age of marriage for girls at 14 years and boys at 18 years which was later amended to 18 for girls and 21 for boys. It is popularly known as the Sarda Act, after its sponsor Harbilas Sarda. It came into effect six months later on April 1, 1930 and it applies to all of British India, not just to Hindus.[1][2][3] It was a result of social reform movement in India. The legislation was passed by the British Indian Government.[4]

    Were White women suffering from Sati? Were White widows suffering with the inability to remarry? The British could have said ‘Who cares about these brown monkey women burning up after their husbands? We are here just here to loot, let the barbarians do what they wish’. They could have done that and have left it at that.
    Explain plez case by case what advantage did the Whites receive from the laws above. Also explain why you think the lives of Widows, children and slaves did not improve thanks to the above laws.

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  357. @Malla

    The majority of WN in version 2.0 are dysfunctional NEETs/incels who post on /pol/.There are some intelligent people with reasonable opinions but these are the minority. Nowadays its full of internet drama with tradthots vs the white sharia police, can’t really take them seriously. These internet movements will burn out just like how the atheist movement fizzled out after a few years.

    I thought that Hindu nationalist wanted to dismantle the caste system and bring about a unified Hindu majority ? Indians in the west are progressives and they are often used by western NGOs to attack Indian traditions, the majority aren’t nationalists.

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    , @Malla
    , @Malla
  358. Thomm says:
    @Third world nationalist

    The majority of WN in version 2.0 are dysfunctional NEETs/incels who post on /pol/.

    This is 100% correct. That is why the term ‘wigger’ is so widely used to describe them.

    There are some intelligent people with reasonable opinions but these are the minority.

    Yes. And the smart ones (like Jared Taylor) are far less opposed to legal immigration of skilled Asians than the median White Trashionalists. Derb is actively trying to make Asians palatable, for the benefit of his wife and children. He only hates blacks.

    I thought that Hindu nationalist wanted to dismantle the caste system and bring about a unified Hindu majority ? Indians in the west are progressives and they are often used by western NGOs to attack Indian traditions, the majority aren’t nationalists.

    I have seen this as well. Indian women in the West seem unusually prone to ‘feminism’. Plus, only 51% of Indians in the US are Hindus. The other 49% are other religions (including 18% Christians), etc.

  359. Malla says:
    @Thomm

    As the fastest growing economy in the world at present? It may be backward, but it is not becoming MORE backward.

    Piece of advice buddy. Please stop depending on your MSM because if you do not, you will not understand how the world works. Economically yes but socially no. Part of the country is going back socially. The BJP party is the politic wing of the RSS. The RSS is a Hindu fundamentalist right winged party where some of their leaders want to take India back to a casteist backward world.

    India is going ahead economically and people speaking out against stupid superstitions are being assassinated by hinduvadi gunmen

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narendra_Dabholkar

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M._M._Kalburgi

    http://www.caravanmagazine.in/reportage/darkness-dawn-dabholkar-pansare-kalburgi

    To get a glimse at these right winged crackpots take a look at their beliefs

    https://www.sanatan.org/en/a/205.html

    To extend your opposition to Hinduwadi Indians (whatever they are) into support of US White Trashionalists, in the hope that they stop even skilled immigation to the US (some of whom are Indians), since those Indians support Hinduwadi despite being Obama-loving Democrats in the US, is very flawed logic.

    Not flawed at all. Outsiders support left winged parties in the West because it is in their economic and tribal interest. You cannot explain why a vast majority of Indians support the left winged Democrats in the USA or labour in the UK but support the ultra right winged BJP in India. Because it is in their tribal interest. Simple.
    If you have this childish belief that people of many races will come together and live in harmony in a future USA, you do not understand human nature. I used to think like that once, when I was less matured.

    Plus, I am here to tell you that ‘White Nationalism’ in the US is a ridiculed, fringe ideology. Hatreon only got $20,000 in donations. Trump has done nothing to help these fringe losers, and no mainstream candidate will.

    That fact makes no difference to me.

    Hating White nationalists is a type of status signaling. The media has pushed this propaganda that White nationalist are always losers (a few of them might be) and now millions of Whites with a desire to prove they are above the so called ‘losers’ show everybody how cosmopolitan/ progressive they are. A very successful pshy ops by the establishment.

  360. Malla says:
    @Third world nationalist

    I thought that Hindu nationalist wanted to dismantle the caste system and bring about a unified Hindu majority ? Indians in the west are progressives and they are often used by western NGOs to attack Indian traditions, the majority aren’t nationalists.

    It is more complicated than that. Hindu upper castes like me speak of unity when it suits them to defeat the Muslim vote. This Hindu unity facade will last until Muslims and Christians are not made impotent politically. After that the caste thing will reemerge. It is all a game.

    Indians in the west are progressives and they are often used by western NGOs to attack Indian traditions, the majority aren’t nationalists

    Not true, some are progressive not most.

  361. Malla says:
    @Thomm

    The only thing that is right-wing is free-market, small government ideology.

    Not true. There can be an economic right wing ideology, socially right wing ideology and a racial right winged ideology. Secondly tell that to the crackpot lefties in the Universities, not me. I would like to see their reaction.

  362. Malla says:

    As the fastest growing economy in the world at present? It may be backward, but it is not becoming MORE backward.

    Really?

    Cow protection squads running around taking the law in their own hand.

    https://www.indiatimes.com/news/india/witch-hunting-on-the-rise-across-several-indian-states-231133.html&rct=j&q=&es

    Witch Hunting On The Rise Across Several Indian States

  363. Malla says:
    @Third world nationalist

    The majority of WN in version 2.0 are dysfunctional NEETs/incels who post on /pol/.There are some intelligent people with reasonable opinions but these are the minority.

    Not true.

  364. Ron Unz says:

    I happened to notice that this very long comment-thread had moved in a different, but certainly interesting direction…

    “Malla” seems quite knowledgeable and sensible in his views, probably much more level-headed and objective than at least 95% of the other commenters on this website. I have absolutely no reason to doubt that he’s exactly who he claims to be, namely someone from India, but who has spent considerable time in the West.

    “Thomm” on the other hand, is a very different story. He’s always ranting and raving about White Nationalists, usually in a rather crude and ignorant manner.

    He’s repeatedly claimed to be a native-born white American, but I think this highly unlikely. The style and content of his comments seems totally incompatible with that of anyone born and raised in the U.S. Among other things, his statements about American society and history are so totally ridiculous, I find it impossible to believe they’re based on anything other watching a few silly Hollywood movies and then reading some ultra-PC websites. For example, I think he’s claimed that neither Irish nor Polish people were considered “white Americans” prior to around 1965. If I just watched a couple of the most ludicrous Bollywood movies and then boldly tried to pretend I was from India, I’m sure I would make equally absurd errors.

    Since he claims to be a native-born white American but surely isn’t, he’s dishonest, and all his other claims should be treated with considerable skepticism. Based on his overwhelming focus on immigration issues and his intense hostility to anti-immigration whites, I’d think probably he’s a recent immigrant to the U.S.. After all, if he were living overseas, I can’t imagine he’d care, and instead his focus would surely be on the ongoing local quarrels in his own part of the world, such as the Balkans or the Middle East or Africa.

    Given his frequent boasts about how wealthy and successful Indian immigrants have become in America and also how rapidly the Indian economy is growing, I’d assume he’s probably from that country, most likely an H1-B immigrant. Admittedly, he’s explicitly denied that, but as I mentioned above, he’s clearly dishonest about his background.

    Here’s another contributing factor. In all my years reading comment-threads on this and other websites, the only individuals I’ve ever encountered who are so intensively interested in India and Indians, especially in a boastful manner, are themselves from India…

    Anyway, that’s my small contribution to this rather interesting discussion…

  365. Truth says:
    @Malla

    I want the West, Europe and USA to be majority White and Right Winged because a strong traditional West will keep the Right Winged crack pots from the other parts of the World from emerging from the shadows like cockroaches.

    Dude, you’ve have my eyes tearing up here. Everything about your posts just screams “right-wing crackpot.”

    • LOL: Truth
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  366. @Bach

    Just from a language perspective, English is the international language. This is how commentators from around the world can communicate. The side I’m standing and the morality I keep is not important. Great Britain ruled over 1/2 the world at its height. That is just a fact.

  367. Truth says:
    @Ron Unz

    I meant to put my LOL, below, on your post.

    An Indian who:

    1.Calls every other poster “faggot”
    2. Rudely insults a woman who is anti WM/AF relationships
    3. Ends his posts with “heh heh heh heh?”

    I’m just not seeing it.

    That’s a white man. I’d put a month’s paycheck on it.

  368. Thomm says:
    @Ron Unz

    False.

    I have used a variety of slang and cultural references that only a domestically born American would use, and Indians are unlikely to know about. On other threads, I have been accused of being Jewish or Chinese, when I have defended the success of those.

    Plus, I never said that Irish were not considered ‘white’ in 1965, but rather in 1900. This is easy to look up.
    Poles certainly were seen as inferior outsiders by WASPs in 1965.

    I didn’t think Ron Unz was this sloppy or uninformed.

    Given his frequent boasts about how wealthy and successful Indian immigrants have become in America and also how rapidly the Indian economy is growing,

    Nope. I have similarly praised Chinese and Jews, and I keep saying how mainstream whites are so much better than White Nationalists. I even said just a few comments above (#355) that I don’t necessarily like Indians much except that they bother White Nationalists. Get your facts right, bub.

    Ron Unz’s behavior is odd, since I have repeatedly defended him for his superb analysis on Hispanic crime rates being low when adjusted for age, gender, etc. Many say he is a shill for Mexicans but I defended him for his work. Alas, defending Ron Unz is a mistake I won’t make in the future.

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    , @Art Deco
  369. @Malla

    The thing about WN as an ideology is that it attracts the wrong kind of people. People who think that they are superior just for having a certain skin colour. Having merit is less important then having the right genes. These movements will tend to attract relatively low quality people.

    The lack of success of WN movement is the evidence for this.

    I’m entirely for the restriction of migration. But it should not be mixed with WN sentiment, i think that WN is in fact detrimental to the migration restriction movement. America is already 40 percent non white by making WN the foccus of the anti migration movement you have already alienated 40 percent of would be supporters. Of the reminder 60 percent that are white probably half would not want to have anything to do with WN. Thus if WN is the main foccus of migration restriction the most that would support it is 30 percent of the total population, such a movement cannot suceed.

    If you want to help the west not take in so many start advocating for a multi racial solution to the migration problem, don’t go the route of WN.

    • Replies: @Malla
  370. Malla says:
    @Thomm

    There are many listed in that article. This is a universal phenomenon in America.

    That is a MGTOW manosphere website and thus speaking from the manosphere perspective. The manosphere and White nationalism are not the same thing. There are non black members in the manosphere MGTOW world as well as many White nationalists who are in the manosphere. Many WN are not interested in the manosphere, they just want to set the demographic mistake made decades ago back, they may not be interested in reversing the effects of feminism. You are mixing them up.
    What that article says is that , many of the the women in the alt right are not that traditional in the real sense but have secret feminist views.
    Check out this sentence

    Any man who claims to believe in nationalism and patriarchy would never get his political opinions from a promiscuous woman

    That is because there are very few traditional women left in the West except maybe in some Christian churches. Feminism and sexual liberation destroyed that. That is why Western women of all races are considered whores by men in the rest of the world. I have had intelligent Indian friends (guys doing phD in Engineering) of mine tell me that Western women of all races are whores, that is how the world sees the west. Ask an Arab, ask an Uzbek ask an Indian computer graduate from IIT, they will all say the same. The West destroyed it’s Victorian era mores, the West of the Victorian era would not be called a land of Whores by anybody.

    But if you check out the videos of the those girls I posted, that is obviously not true at all for them. They are traditionalist both in gender as well as race. They are not the type described in that article.

    Many of those women may not want to have a traditional future for the West like what it was in the past, they want womens rights but not non Whites in White societies. There are other women who want both a White society as well as a traditional society. All of them are different. That website ‘Return of the Kings’ is speaking from a anti-feminist mans-rights perspective not a essentially White nationalist perspective.

    Lena is married to a White Nationalist Henrik

    No way she is fake.

    Women’s Roundtable – Debunking the Claim that Nationalism Is Hostile Towards Women

    The women above are not at all like what is described in that article.

    The most important question is, Are White nationalists really losers or you prefer it to be that way? If those men whose videos I have posted, (and I can post a lot more) are low IQ losers then the vast majority, about 99% of the brown black world are low IQ losers too as they are dumber than those guys. yet you want to import these low IQ masses into the West???? About 80 to 90 % of the brown black immigrants into the west are dumber than those White nationalists

    Stefan Molyneux Destroys The Concept Of Multiculturalism In Under 2 Minutes

    Stefan Molyneux – The Reason Low IQ Cultures Don’t Mix With High IQ Societies

    Are you telling me Stefan Molyneux is a low IQ loser????? Most of those immigrants you love, about 95% of them would pee in their pants if they had a debate with Stefan who has a deep knowledge of philosophy and a great logical mind.

    • Replies: @Malla
  371. Malla says:
    @Malla

    Correction here

    There are non black members in the manosphere

    there are non-White members in the manosphere including many black members*. The manosphere is not about race but gender. It is about men of all races including Whites, blacks, Asians, Hispanics, native Americans being victimised due to the effects of later wave feminism on women and society in general. It is not the same thing as White Nationalism.

  372. Thomm says:
    @Ron Unz

    Oh, and I have openly said that the H1-B program should be abolished outright :

    http://www.unz.com/imercer/why-tax-breaks-wont-stop-high-tech-h-1b-human-trafficking/#comment-2081817

    This doesn’t fit the narrative of Ron Unz’s clumsy drive-by.

    Then again, he is not even aware of how emphatically Irish-Americans were not considered ‘white’ as recently as 1900, just 117 years ago.

  373. Malla says:
    @Bach

    Confucianism and Buddhism go hand in hand. Zen, the popular form of buddhism in E Asia, is ultimately amoral and asocial. Confucianism fills in the moral/social/political structures. Zen without Confucianism can fall into antinomianism.

    Agree!!!! Good point.

  374. Malla says:
    @Ron Unz

    Thanks for the compliment Unz.

    For example, I think he’s claimed that neither Irish nor Polish people were considered “white Americans” prior to around 1965. If I just watched a couple of the most ludicrous Bollywood movies and then boldly tried to pretend I was from India, I’m sure I would make equally absurd errors.

    Exactly. Agreed.

  375. Malla says:
    @Ron Unz

    I’d assume he’s probably from that country, most likely an H1-B immigrant.

    I somehow do not think he is Indian. He is just someone who enjoys looking down upon White Nationalists.

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  376. Malla says:
    @DB Cooper

    Does not matter. Tibetans are a distinct ethnic group than the Han and thus have a right to independence of they so choose. Britain wanted control of Tibet just like it wanted some sort of control over Afghanistan, to prevent Russian influence coming South. the Russians always wanted access to warm waters and the British were afraid, the Russians had some interest in India.

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
  377. Malla says:
    @Thomm

    Yes, saying women have no agency, and should not be held accountable for their own behavior, IS feminism. That is why all race-centric ideologies immediately start over-valuing the woman (since women are the scarcer reproductive resource).

    But official feminism is against any sort of White nationalism. Saying women have no agency and are not accountable for their own behaviour is how all traditional societies functioned. In most cultures, rape of a woman was considered an act of aggression against her father/clan, not the woman. The woman was considered a passive agent.

    For example the Manusmruti fo the Hindus

    (Manusmrti 7:149-150)
    “Men must keep their women dependent day and night, and keep under their own control those who are attached to sensory objects. Her father guards her in childhood, her husband guards her in youth, and her sons guard her in old age. A woman is never fit for independence.”

    Where is the accountability of their actions here?

    In the Quran,
    Sahih Bukhari (6:301) – “[Muhammad] said, ‘Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?’ They replied in the affirmative. He said, ‘This is the deficiency in her intelligence.’”

    Where is the accountability of their action here?

    Are you telling me traditional Hinduism and Islam are pro feminism? Then what are the Indian and Middle Eastern feminists fighting against?

    No, this has to do more with the paradox in the line of thought of modern feminism. and nothing to do with Islam, Hinduism or White nationalism. It has to do with the stupidity and the paradoxes of of modern feminism, because they want rights for women without accountability. Which does not happen. Authority and responsibility go hand in hand.

    That is why all race-centric ideologies immediately start over-valuing the woman (since women are the scarcer reproductive resource).

    That is how the world has always worked and will always work, unfortunately. Those societies who don’t follow this line of thinking of protecting their women from outsiders, will disappear eventually or change beyond recognition.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  378. Malla says:
    @Third world nationalist

    I think the reason why Europe is a bit too cucked nowdays is that in the past they executed a lot of high T thugs as criminals, hence the population evolved to be too passive and not agressive enough.

    Not true, the population is not passive but have been trained (and trust me billions have been spent on this) using Cultural Marxist, MK Ultra programming etc… techniques via Media and Education that is is immoral to attack a darkie. This was deliberately done. Also, the society was trained to hate the protectors of the tribe (White nationalists) as evil low class people. The Middle classes were trained to hate Working class White nationalists (protectors of the tribe) and thus show their fake “moral/intellectual superiority” brownie points to each other. All of this was one big psychological operation. This social engineering was all planned. The poster Thomm is a very good example of a victim of such programming. In non White countries, such nationalists are considered as protectors and are regularly elected to power. Eastern Europeans have not faced this form of programming as the Communist regimes made a U turn and started a program called Social Realism which is the exact opposite of Cultural Marxism.

    If the population of Europe is passive, explain how they fought like lions in WW2? How is it that the Irish who had organizations like the IRA are passive infront of darkie immigrants? Because Whites have been brainwashed to believe that the darkie is morally superior come what may. Fighting the British Army or the Germans is cool, it makes you a hero. Fight the darkies and you are a villain. It is only recently that Europeans are waking up to this programming. The irony is as more and more Europeans are exposed to darkies and their behaviour, more red pilled they will get and the media/ education propaganda becomes less effective in their propaganda/brainwashing.

  379. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    Anyone who has spent any amount of time on the internet can recognize the infamous Indian troll.

    Indians themselves know this, that’s why an Indian wrote a book called the Argumentative Indian as a social critique.

    The problem with these Indians is that if there is a thread that relates to them in anyway, they all jump into it and spam comments endlessly. The goal is not further discussion of ideas, but trying to win through quantity and shady tactics.

    Not all Indians are like this of course, but I do find it interesting. A nation that usually does not win a single gold medal in most Olympics, I think what Indians have the most comparative advantage of is arguing.

    Thomm is an easy to spot Indian Troll. But I was impressed with how he covered his desire for more Indian immigration by saying all smart immigrants are welcome including Chinese, Koreans etc etc. This gave him plausible deniability that he was not an Indian.

  380. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomm

    That’s funny, you never replied to my post in the other thread when I showed you they were.

    Look, you’re losing this battle. Nobody cares whether you are a native-born American except that it’s funny that it triggers you.

  381. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    He’s clearly obsessed with “WNs”, for no discernible reason, which would be odd if he were Indian.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  382. Malla says:
    @Truth

    Dude, you’ve have my eyes tearing up here. Everything about your posts just screams “right-wing crackpot.”

    Hey, Did that come out of your small Uncle Tom accusations dairy in your pocket? Are they working? Those uncomfortable truths still coming out, right? That means those cheap tricks do not work. So why waste time?

    • Replies: @Truth
  383. Art Deco says:
    @Thomm

    Plus, I never said that Irish were not considered ‘white’ in 1965, but rather in 1900. This is easy to look up.

    You’re free to examine the 19th century Statistical Abstracts and digital copies of period Census schedules. The racial taxonomy of the day did not have separate categories for supposedly disfavored caucasoid segments.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  384. Malla says:
    @Third world nationalist

    The thing about WN as an ideology is that it attracts the wrong kind of people. People who think that they are superior just for having a certain skin colour.

    Wrong, White nationalist need not mean White supremacist. Some are, some are not.

    Having merit is less important then having the right genes. These movements will tend to attract relatively low quality people.

    Merit within a tribe, not merit world wide. It is unfair that Americans have to compete with merit from throughout the World while most of World protect themselves from such competition.

    tend to attract relatively low quality people.

    Not true. I disagree. That is what many WANT to believe.

    America is already 40 percent non white by making WN the foccus of the anti migration movement you have already alienated 40 percent of would be supporters.

    America as a nation is more or less over. There is no point in talking about American nationalism now. 50 years back before the 1965 immigration bill, yes you could talk about American Nationalism, now, no. American nationalism has now perverted into globalist elite slave nationalism, there is no going back on this. It now means bombing nations around the world in service of the Globalists. I am not saying the USA pre 1965 did not fight wars at the service of the globalists but the USA of that demographics had a chance to free itself of the Globalist elites. Now it is too late.

    America is already 40 percent non white by making WN the foccus of the anti migration movement you have already alienated 40 percent of would be supporters. Of the reminder 60 percent that are white probably half would not want to have anything to do with WN. Thus if WN is the main foccus of migration restriction the most that would support it is 30 percent of the total population, such a movement cannot suceed.

    No use. America with the demographics it has now, is condemned to be a slave of the globalist.
    Have you ever asked yourself this question, why did the country become only 60% White from 90% some decades ago. Who wanted it that way and what was the intention?

  385. @Malla

    The main reason for mass migration is how the capitalist economy works. Countries now compete with each other to have a higher GDP. To do that they need to attract businesses and to attract businesses that profitable they have to lower wages thus the migrants.

    The west is not alone in taking in migrants a lot of other countries also do so, for example Russia has migrants from central Asia and the gulf states have migrants from India. These countries can get away with deporting the excess because they are authoritarian.

    There are 2 ways to avoid the neoliberals, one way is the North korean way of Juche which is hardcore ataurky, but the only reason they can do so is because they have nuclear weapons. The other way is to be like Bhutan and totally reject modernity and be insignificant. It is only a matter of time before east Asian countries like Japan and korea get migrants since they are controlled by America.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  386. Bach says:
    @anonymous

    Jews emerged from the Middle East, probably around the Levant. They identify themselves as Jews, and consider themselves to be a distinct group. They do not view White Europeans as being part of their group.

    The Jewish religion, like Christianity, emerged from the ME. Christian Europeans and Jewish Europeans are all European.

    Even if we concede that Jews are a foreign race, after nearly 2000 years of living side by side, they’re all but European.

    The fact that they view themselves apart from other Europeans is not relevant.

    Asians have the option of going back to their own countries so they don’t have to deal with all of those horribly racist Whites

    So your contention is that Americans of Asian background should just shut up or go back to where they came from? Asians are 2nd class Americans?

    Once again, “special” treatment for Asians.

    whom they keep following around for some reason

    Asians are not following whites around. It’s people like you that came to Asia and started the train of great wars, remember?

  387. Bach says:
    @Malla

    A brown woman with a white man brings out the worst in Indians . . . To many Indians, the idea of a mixed-race couple is alien, repulsive even.

    Maybe the animus (white man/Indian woman) is a consequence of hundreds of years of British colonialism.

    On the other hand, Indian men with white women seem to be accepted just fine. Obviously, the symbolism is very different there.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Art Deco
  388. Rdm says:
    @Ron Unz

    Ron,

    You also need to take into account of

    Jayman, a black immigrant, who became ultra obsessed with Nordic achievement after married to a White woman

    http://www.unz.com/jman/racial-reality-provides-my-150th-post/?highlight=nordic+IQ

    Kumail Nanjiani, a Pakistani immigrant, who would throw all his fellow Pakistani under the bus when it comes to pushing his presence in social platform. Always bragging about married to a White woman.

    Aziz Ansari, a loud obnoxious yell-at-in-your-face Indian American, obsessed with throwing his Indian fellow under the bus after married to a White woman.

    The bottom line is anyone after interracial marriage, changes their view on particular race. Look at Derby.

    Where is Prissy? who always obsessed with Black dongs in her comment until it gets called out by everyone.

    • Replies: @Malla
  389. immigration is a thing because the elites wants a bigger population = bigger economy :)

    how many of you guys understand this? :)

    your wants, needs, hatred and prejudices matters jack shit :)

  390. Malla says:
    @Bach

    Maybe the animus (white man/Indian woman) is a consequence of hundreds of years of British colonialism.

    I doubt if that has anything to it. Indians will not like if they see their woman with a Chinese/Japanese guy. Not all Indians, few are cool. It is more like the other race is taking our women. This is similar with Arabs. Even blacks sometimes, though not to that extent as ME/subcons.

  391. Bach says:
    @Malla

    And why did Whites ban slavery???

    Because they had gone too far the other way.

    It became increasingly clear slavery on an industrial scale cannot be reconciled with liberal values and Christian ethics.

    Whites oscillate between extremes. And it is this movement to excess that makes it necessary to establish laws against it. But that itself cannot be called a great virtue.

  392. Someone at Harvard probably saw this clip and got scared. There are already 9 UC’s, they don’t want to become the 10th, UC – Cambridge:

  393. Bach says:
    @Malla

    Not true. Europeans are no more racist than other races. All races are racist upto some extent.

    Again, the difference is scale and quality.

    Slavery is universal. Killing is universal. Genocide is universal. All these things are human phenomenons. That’s not being debated.

    But only Europeans created an ideology, a dogma, a complex edifice of racism and used it to bludgeon the world with it.

    This is because the concept of charity is very important in Western civilization as well as Christianity. Look I know the flaws in Christianity, I agree with you but Christianity has some positive features too.

    Yes… there are many beautiful things in Christianity. I said that. But Europe has been richer much longer than Asia. Most E. Asians were 3rd world poor just a generation ago.

    Christianity is also a very activist religion, so there is something to that as well.

  394. Bach says:
    @Malla

    “Of the neighbors of the Bujja, Maqdisi had heard that “there is no marriage among them; the child does not know his father, and they eat people — but God knows best. As for the Zanj, they are people of black color, flat noses, kinky hair, and little understanding or intelligence.” Maqdisi (fl. 966 AD), _Kitab al-Bad’_, vol.4

    Interesting, but these are casual observations. Everyone has prejudices and opinions. We all make observations. But that’s not what I’m talking about.

    It’s one thing to make observations and another to form an ideology and use that ideology to oppress, suppress, enslave and deny the sovereignty of other people everywhere you go.

    The fact that I may have a negative opinion of personA is not germane until I use that opinion to deny his sovereignty in his own homeland.

    Besides, I think we’re aware of the underlying problems that Abrahamic religions share.

  395. Malla says:
    @Third world nationalist

    Not convinced. Post Industrial Revolution Capitalism is several centuries old, but at least Europe never had the kind of immigration it had after WW2 and yet it was the industrial center of the world. Japan takes very little immigrants compared to the West. In Russia, immigrants respect native Russians, they do not end up dominating areas in the way they do in the West.
    In the gulf, immigrants are never given citizenship except in rare occasions.

  396. DB Cooper says:
    @Malla

    How do you know Tibetans in China want independence? Because the Dalai Lama at one time said so? On the other hand I am pretty sure Tibetans in South Tibet which was forcibly annexed by India in 1951 (can’t blame the British Raj on this one) does not want to live under India rule. In case you can’t find South Tibet on the map in India it was renamed to ‘Arunachal Pradesh’ by India in 1987 and made a state. There are many insurgencies fighting for independence in the India northeast and these are totally indigenous movement without foreign involvement, unlike the Dalai Lama operation which was nurtured, funded and supported by the British and the US.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  397. Truth says:
    @Malla

    What cheap tricks? I just call em as I see em. I don’t have any problem with you personally. You write well in English and seem like a fairly intelligent guy. I really don’t care that much, but every post you write screams “angry beta”* borrowing one of these WhiteGuy phrases.

    You are a third-world nigger who doesn’t like other third-world niggers. So am I, get over it homie, It ain’t that bad.

    *Except for the one you apologized, that was alpha.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Thomm
  398. Malla says:
    @Third world nationalist

    Well it seems Jurche was quite nationalist very different from the Trotsky types.

    Besides, in Russia, Russians are boss. No place for soft PC.

  399. Malla says:
    @DB Cooper

    I know about the Dalai Lama and the CIA. Tibet should get independence from China. Arunachal Pradesh should get independence from India and join Independent Tibet.

  400. All the enlightened liberals who want the west to become “multicultural” just don’t get it. The reason the West is such an attractive place for most immigrants is precisely because it is not multicultural — that it is majority white and protestant. There are things about white protestant nations that other nations cannot achieve — that majority of people are honest, law abiding, polite with good manners, civic minded, self-reliant, good samaritans, punctual, charitable, show community spirit, observe personal cleanliness, take care of their homes, yards, neighborhoods, build beautiful things and take good care of them.

    The Japanese are the Asians who come closest to this. All other Asian groups are trash. The Chinese are wickedly dishonest, they think nothing of breaking the law as long as they can get away with it. Koreans are a little better but not by much, the rest like native Southeast Asians and Indians are low IQ and violent. Arabs today can’t build a damn thing without all their foreign labor. Blacks and browns everywhere are low IQ and violent, and most cannot build anything, all their buildings and infrastructure were built by colonial whites a hundred years ago, and they can’t even properly maintain them. Most brown and black countries in the world are dangerous, decrepit, corrupt and poorly run with practically no functioning governments, because they do not embrace personal integrity, law abidingness, civic mindedness and all those qualities I mentioned above.

    Immigration is all well and good but it must be controlled. In small numbers you can assimilate the newcomers into this good WASP culture, but in large numbers they will assimilate you. The US is in danger of being turned into a 3rd world country due to such high, uncontrolled immigration. We need a 20 year immigration moratorium to assimilate all those already here — after kicking out all those who are not yet citizens. It’s been 150 years since slavery ended and the US still cannot successfully assimilate the blacks. Many Jews remained unassimilated due to tribalism. They maintained their low integrity, selfish ways, they want what is best for Jews rather than the country, that’s why from Hollywood to Wall Street, Silicon Valley to DC, the media, academia, every institution Jews controlled are being run to the ground.

    It is the ultimate paradox. You make a place so nice everyone wants to go there, but then so many go there it is no longer nice. Western countries must grow enough resolve to stop this slow killing of the west through mass immigration.

  401. Malla says:
    @Truth

    I just call em as I see em.

    Same Here. I do the same.

    I don’t have any problem with you personally.

    Same Here, no problem with you personally.

    You write well in English and seem like a fairly intelligent guy.

    Likewise to you.

    I really don’t care that much, but every post you write screams “angry beta”* borrowing one of these WhiteGuy phrases.

    Angry sometimes, beta??? nahh.

    You are a third-world nigger who doesn’t like other third-world niggers.

    I may be a third world nigger but I am free to criticize what is wrong, thats my right. I criticize other third world niggers if they deserve to be criticized. I criticize anybody if they deserve to be criticized. Since criticizing third world niggers is so taboo nowadays, I feel like a revolutionary.
    I criticize Islam if it deserves to be criticized but I also praise those aspects of Islam that deserve to to praised. I criticize Christianity if it deserves to be criticized but I also praise those aspects of Christianity that deserve to to praised. and so on and so forth with Jews, Asians, Whites, Hinduism, Blacks, Shinto, Dolphins ………

    Also remember that throughout history, there have been White folks who took the side of Third world niggers like me and criticized other White folks because they felt it was right. Can only White folks do that and not Third World niggers like me? Well that is racist.

    Except for the one you apologized

    Because I knew that was the right thing to do. But thanks anyways.

    • Replies: @Malla
  402. Malla says:
    @Malla

    An example of a YT to took the side of Third World niggers like me against other YTs.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Octavian_Hume

    Maybe it is time to return the favour.

  403. DB Cooper says:
    @Malla

    Why Tibet should get independence from China? Reason for that is?

    • Replies: @Malla
  404. Malla says:
    @Rdm

    Jayman, a black immigrant, who became ultra obsessed with Nordic achievement after married to a White woman

    http://www.unz.com/jman/racial-reality-provides-my-150th-post/?highlight=nordic+IQ

    And what if those Nordic achievements are true? He is just writing what he observes, it does not matter he is black. I find his writings very interesting. His theories about North Western European achievements and reasons for those achievements are logically quite sound and he makes intelligent points. Though I tend to subscribe to the cold climate hypnosis along with the Hanjal line theory. I think it is the combination of both factors.

    The bottom line is anyone after interracial marriage, changes their view on particular race. Look at Derby.

    Where is my White woman or my East Asian woman? LOL For some strange reason, besides subcons I have dated women from the Middle East/North Africa and Black women rather than White women. Well those guys at least got their White women (or East Asian), where is mine?. LOL.

    Well that depends, there was this Indian guy who worked as a diplomat who used to write articles in Indian newspapers who was rabidly anti White but had a White wife, I guess Italian. Similarly Dr. Ambedkar, the hero for the lower castes in India and fought against upper caste brutality had a upper caste Brahmin wife. So not all get converted by the vag I guess. LOL

  405. Bach says:
    @Orwellian State

    The Japanese are the Asians who come closest to this. All other Asian groups are trash.

    I see. You’re a self hater.

    This is pathetic coming from an Asian guy. You’re essentially no different from white nationalists who cry Asians invented nothing.

    Japan peaked in the 90s and hasn’t really done anything interesting since. Centuries before its bubble burst, it was NE Asia’s hinterland. Clean, efficient and orderly Japan is a modern invention.

    Korea in the early 20th century was forsaken for lost. Today, its exporting music/movies and other Hallyu cool. Young people can’t imagine what it was like even 30 years ago.

    China is doing the same as well. It’s growing. Changing. Evolving. Improving.

    You see, history undulates.

    Your characterization is a description frozen in a specific time and place. In the past.

    I agree with your sentiments about multiculturalism and immigration but not because the West is superior to the East. I believe in sovereignty and the sanctity of local cultures.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Orwellian State
  406. Malla says:
    @DB Cooper

    They are a distinct ethnic group from the majority Han. They have a history of being a distinct nation with a distinct history. Tibet had it’s own Empire in the past.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibetan_Empire

    Tibet was conquered not by the Han (leadership, there might have been Han soldiers and generals) but the Mongol Yuan dynasty and later by the Manchu Qing dynasty.

    There were many rebellions such as the rebellion of 1750 where all the Han Chinese and Manchus living in Lhasa were killed by local Tibetan rebels and Chinese troops were sent to suppress the rebellion.

    By the way, the British under Lieutenant Colonel Francis Younghusband, were not the only people from India who invaded Tibet. Maharaja Zorawar Singh of the Sikh empire succeeded in conquering a part of Tibet only to be defeated later by a Sino Tibetan army.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Sikh_War

    And this is not the first time the Dalai Lama was driven from Tibet in the 20th century. The Qing dynasty in 1910 had invaded Tibet, drove the Dalai Lama to British India and were quite brutal in their treatment of the native Tibetan peoples.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_expedition_to_Tibet_(1910)

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
    , @random rand
  407. DB Cooper says:
    @Malla

    Of course the Tibetans are a distinct ethnic group and was an independent empire in the past. But what does that has any relevance to this discussion? What if the Tibetans in China do not want independence? How do you force them to claim independence if that is the case?

    “The Qing dynasty in 1910 had invaded Tibet”. This is typical MSM nonsense. Tibet is part of China longer than the United States is a country. Tibet is part of the Qing dynasty. How can you invade your own country? The Qianlong emperor himself is a Tibetan Buddhism follower. Are you saying that the Chinese emperor is a follower of a religion that he himself consider is from another country?

    https://ilookchina.com/2017/05/31/forbidden-city-secrets-reveal-tibets-long-ties-to-china/

    • Replies: @Malla
  408. Malla says:
    @Bach

    I do not see any thing wrong in his analysis. The Japanese are on average more honest, clean, polite people then other Asians. Even early European explorers realized this.

    • LOL: Bach
    • Replies: @Bach
  409. Thomm says:
    @Art Deco

    See the image I posted. They literally describe Irish as a form of ‘white African’ (and that both are sub-human). This was in Harpers and the New York Times in 1899-1900.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  410. Thomm says:
    @Malla

    But official feminism is against any sort of White nationalism.

    Feminism hates White Nationalism, but WNs do a lot of heavy-lifting to assist feminism. They are useful idiots to the cause (much like GOPe cuckservatives are).

  411. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The Irish and Poles were a different “race” to the Anglo-Saxons (Celtic and Slavic) but this has nothing to do with skin color. There’s a logical mistake here: assuming that because WASPs saw people as being different races they necessarily saw them as non-white. That doesn’t follow.

  412. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    All nationalists are “losers” because nationalism is an admission that you need the help of others to get what you want. Strength through unity is an appeal of the weak not the strong.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  413. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    “White nationalist need not mean White supremacist. Some are, some are not.”

    The doctrine of white supremacy is internationalism/anti-racism, not white nationalism. The idea that whites are effortlessly superior to other races and don’t need any communal organizations to protect their interests.

    • Replies: @Malla
  414. Bach says:
    @Malla

    The Japanese are on average more honest, clean, polite people then other Asians. Even early European explorers realized this.

    Interesting how future warmongers recognized honesty and good manners in each another.

    • Replies: @Malla
  415. @Bach

    Asian students at Cal and UCLA are less progressivetards?

    Not to the same extent. Asians who went to UC’s (and other State U’s) tend to major in more practical professional STEM fields rather than liberal arts, as such they do not go into law, politics or journalism in large numbers. Since their degrees are accorded less prestige than those from elite schools, they also do not rise to prominence as much in politics, journalism or law, therefore do not inflict nearly as much damage.

    • Replies: @Bach
  416. Bach says:
    @Orwellian State

    Asians who went to UC’s (and other State U’s) tend to major in more practical professional STEM fields rather than liberal arts … Since their degrees are accorded less prestige than those from elite schools … therefore do not inflict nearly as much damage.

    So the solution is to keep Asians down and let Jews inflict all the damage? How about letting more non-Jewish white kids in?

    When we treat people fairly, the dynamics will change.

    The problem isn’t Asians. It’s the obscene overrepresentation of Jews. They’re setting the (tribal) agenda and affecting everything around them.

  417. @Malla

    China does not colonize now maybe because they do not have that intention but also because, it is not easy to go and make colonies in this day and age unlike in the past.

    Actually colonization is much easier today. It just has a different name, it’s now called immigration. Today’s colonizers do not need any weapons, all they have to do is pack a suitcase and move anywhere they want, some buy their way in like rich corrupt Chinese with their EB5 visas, some bullshit their way in as “best and brightest”, “highly skilled” like majority of the Indian H1b’s, some lie about refugee status like a lot of Muslims and Africans, others don’t even bother giving an excuse, they just walk right across the border or send their children over by themselves, like the Central Americans and Cubans. All they have to do is yell “Racism!” if they are caught, and a sleazy immigration lawyer will be at their service in no time. Liberals are the new 5th columnists of the west.

    The East and West coasts of the US are just continual stretches of Chinese, Indian, Muslim, African and Latin American colonies. There are large ethnoburbs like East LA or the 626 area code in LA where all the signs are in Spanish or Chinese, whose country is it?

    Mainland Chinese are also colonizing Africa through mass immigration, there isn’t a corner you could go to in Africa without encountering mainland Chinese. Whereas the Chinese are not an improvement over whites in the west due to their lack of integrity, they are perhaps a vast improvement over Africans due to higher IQ. Maybe they will succeed in advancing Africa where the NGOs failed. Time will tell how that will all turn out.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Malla
    , @Truth
    , @Malla
  418. @Malla

    Not true. Europeans are no more racist than other races. All races are racist upto some extent.

    From my travels around the country and the world, most non-whites and liberals are far more racist than the conservative whites I have encountered, and also much more in your face with their racism. Identity politics was started by liberals. It is the liberals who want minority groups to “embrace” and assert their cultural identity, rather than adopt the cultural norms of the majority, i.e. they want to keep others, other.

    • Replies: @Malla
  419. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomm

    What is particularly odd is that an Indian like Malla wants to appease WNs. They will never, ever, ever give him any honorary status or whatever else he seeks, and will only ever treat him with seething hatred. I fear he will learn this the hard way.

    Only a bitter non-white will harbor this kind of sentiment.

  420. @Bach

    Racism developed in Europe isn’t just simple prejudice but a sophisticated ideology.

    I guess you’ve never heard of the genocides in Sudan, where the Janjaweed Arabs slaughtered the dark skin Sub Saharans, or in Rwanda, where the Hutu majority slaughtered the Tutsi minority, both sub Saharan tribes, or the slaughter of the economically more successful ethnic Chinese in Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, Cambodia, Vietnam, or the persecution of the dark skin Rohingas in Myanmar. Many Africans in India have complained of racist mistreatment by Indians. The Japanese to this day do not give citizenship to the millions of Koreans who’ve lived in Japan for generations. Ask a Kurd how he feels about the Turks?

    Racism is everywhere. It is human nature not to trust those who look and sound vastly different from us. There is a reason why they do not put lions and tigers in the same cage at the zoo. Multiculturalism is a retarded concept. Assimilation is key to nation building. Every society must have a dominant race and dominant culture where the minorities assimilate into, otherwise it’s just chaos. The Jews promote multiculturalism to bring chaos to the west, because they fear another holocaust, but they have overplayed their hands. Look at Europe where anti-semitism is on the rise by the large number of Muslim immigrants. Karma is a biatch.

    • Replies: @Bach
  421. Bliss says:
    @Ron Unz

    Unz is right. This dude is so obviously just another pathetic hindu troll of the Brahmin variety endlessly boasting of Indian superiority while posing as a white American.

    It is proof of his stupidity that he actually thinks his charade is working…

    • Replies: @Malla
  422. Bach says:
    @Orwellian State

    I guess you’ve never heard of the genocides in Sudan

    It’s not the same thing.

    Maybe an opposite example.

    I can like a person because he has a pleasant demeanor and personality.

    Or I can appreciate someone because I believe that as sentient beings there is no difference between himself and I. We are ultimately not two but one. No subject. No object.

    On the surface, the 2 forms of friendliness appears alike. But it’s not alike at all.

    Now get the converse of that. That’s your everyday prejudice and bigotry. And then there’s white racism.

    The Japanese to this day do not give citizenship to the millions of Koreans who’ve lived in Japan for generations

    I don’t know all the details, but my understanding is that they can indeed get citizenship. Lots of Koreans are Japanese citizens, including Masayoshi Son.

    Multiculturalism is a retarded concept. Assimilation is key to nation building.

    I agree, but not because some of us are tigers and some of us are lions. Humans can get along. But we have to respect each other.

  423. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    I think you are just giving cover to your fello Indian.

    There are lots of reasons why a foreign Indian would be concerned with WN and want to put them down.

    Speaking of motives, why would you try to say Thomm is white when he is clearly Indian?

    Could be you are embarrassed by him, or could be you want to make him look like a crazy white person.

  424. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    Just had a thought. How funny would it be if in this thread Thomm was an Indian pretending to be white and Malla was a white guy pretending to be Indian lol.

    Thomm is definitely Indian. Malla might be Indian as I have met Indians like him who are cringey in hoping to be accepted as an honorary white. But he could also be a white trolling Indians.

    This diverse world we live in.

    • Replies: @Malla
  425. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Orwellian State

    There are large ethnoburbs like East LA or the 626 area code in LA where all the signs are in Spanish or Chinese, whose country is it?

    The rightful owners of the country are the native peoples who lived on it for thousands of years. Everyone else, including whites, is an uninvited guest. Indeed, since Mexicans and Chinese are more closely related to Native Americans than Europeans, you could argue they have a greater right to be there than Whites.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Orwellian State
  426. Bliss says:
    @Bach

    Fundamentally, Abrahamic religions are similarly tribal and racist. Christians are least. Jews the most. Muslims somewhere in between.

    Actually of the above only Judaism is tribal/racist. Both Christianity and Islam are missionary religions that seek to convert all races and nations.

    Shintoism is another example of a racist/nationalistic religion. While Buddhism (the first monastic and missionary religion) is the ultimate universal religion. Japanese somehow manage to believe in both Buddhism and Shintoism at the same time.

    • Replies: @Bach
  427. @Orwellian State

    There can never be true assimilation unless people marry each other and have mixed offspring. Whites seeing themselves as superior to others will not want to marry others hence assimilation will not happen. True assimilation would mean brazilification. But i bet most whites here would not not support this concept. If you want true assimilation then you got to get rid of concepts of racial superiority.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  428. Thomm says:

    I am someone who openly (and often) says that the H1-B program should be abolished outright :

    http://www.unz.com/imercer/why-tax-breaks-wont-stop-high-tech-h-1b-human-trafficking/#comment-2081817

    Yeah, that makes me an Indian. Frankly, this reaction by WN losers is just a pain-avoidance tactic since they can’t bear the fact that mainstream whites (the other 80-90%) hate White Trashionalists.

    White Trashionalists really do have Negro IQs.

  429. Thomm says:
    @Truth

    You are a third-world nigger who doesn’t like other third-world niggers. So am I, get over it homie, It ain’t that bad.

    I can’t really relate, but I can tell you that the bottom 10-20% of whites are ‘wiggers’, in that they have none of the traits that better whites have (which is why diligently keep them out of the better parts of society). White variance is extremely high, and this really stands out if you look closely.

    The men of this loser tier become White Trashionalists.
    The women of this loser tier become fat blue-haired feminists.

    • Replies: @Malla
  430. Thomm says:
    @Anonymous

    All nationalists are “losers” because nationalism is an admission that you need the help of others to get what you want. Strength through unity is an appeal of the weak not the strong.

    Fully agree.

    WN is really just an appeal for intra-white socialism.

    Other nationalists are just as stupid, of course, unless they pair nationalism with free-market, low-tax views. The current version of WN is just socialism.

    • Replies: @Malla
  431. Bach says:
    @Bliss

    Actually of the above only Judaism is tribal/racist. Both Christianity and Islam are missionary religions that seek to convert all races and nations.

    Judaism was also once a missionary religion.

    But we can agree that Judaism is the most racist, tribal and primitive of the 3 religions.

    • Replies: @Malla
  432. Malla says:
    @DB Cooper

    What if the Tibetans in China do not want independence? How do you force them to claim independence if that is the case?

    If that is the case, then Tibet need not be independent. But any unbiased plebiscite been taken?

    How can you invade your own country?

    The Qinq were becoming weak and had only a nominal de facto control over Tibet before that expedition of 1910. There were very few Qing troops in Tibet and after the British Indian (with Bhutanese support) expedition into Tibet, China felt it needed to confirm it’s ruler-ship over Tibet, maybe to show the British that they were really in charge. Anyways the British expedition of Lieutenant Colonel Francis Younghusband was not directed at the Qing Chinese but at the Tsarist Russians. There was this Great Game in Afghanistan between the British Empire and the Russian Empire. The Russians always wanted all year warm water ports and thus the British feared that the Russians had an eye for India or part of India to get those ports. The British Tibetan Expedition was part of this Great Game.

    The Qianlong emperor himself is a Tibetan Buddhism follower.

    That is true, but religion cannot be confused with ethnic groups all the time. The French in Italy were Roman Catholics too yet many Italians wanted them out.

    Anyways if Tibetans are really happy in being part of the big PRC family as you say, then there is no need for Independence.

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
  433. Malla says:
    @Bach

    Interesting how future warmongers recognized honesty and good manners in each another.

    The warmongers have made many wars to teach honesty and good manners to the others around the world but to no avail. And people say human nature has no genetic component!! And this inability to learn honesty and good manners, has been a bigger disaster for the ‘others’ than the warmongers.

    • Replies: @Bach
  434. Malla says:
    @Bach

    Judaism was also once a missionary religion.

    That is true. But you see, some of the earliest Christians were Jews or at the least, a major percentage of early Christian were Jews. And there is this belief among the Pharisee descendants, true or not, that it were the converted Jews who eagerly became Christian. That caused the Pharisee Jews a lot of pain and they decided to make it very hard for Goyim to convert to Judaism hence forth.

    • Replies: @Bach
  435. Malla says:
    @Anonymous

    The rightful owners of the country are the native peoples who lived on it for thousands of years. Everyone else, including whites, is an uninvited guest. Indeed, since Mexicans and Chinese are more closely related to Native Americans than Europeans,

    But the Euro immigrants defeated the Native Americans militarily. The Mexican and Chinese immigrants did not defeat White America.

    • Replies: @Bach
  436. Malla says:
    @Third world nationalist

    Brazilification will not bring you a paradise. There are a lot of racial tensions in Brazil with Whiter Brazilians (having both African and Native American genes) still doing better then Blacker Brazilians (having both European and native American genes) economically.

    Indian subcontinentals were formed by a mixture of native ASI and invading Caucasoid ANI.

    Even the top Brahmins has some ASI genes and even tribals from the jungle have some ANI genes. But even then this did not prevent the caste system from coming into being, a system far brutal than slavery in the South of USA.

  437. Malla says:
    @Thomm

    I have already shown how White nationalists are not all low IQ losers. However each society has it’s trash but you cannot deny the fact (as much as you hate it) that White elites are genetically much closer to White trash than non Whites.

    Besides from

    https://www.whitenationalism.com/ls/ls-01.htm

    “Multi-Racial Empires everywhere crumble.

    They are a bad idea.”

    https://www.whitenationalism.com/ls/ls-02.htm

    “Racial Strife seems universal where diverse races are placed in a single country.

    “Strife can be minimized through dividing such countries into homogeneous nations.”

    https://www.whitenationalism.com/ls/ls-03.htm

    “Racial preferences and quotas are not unique to the United States. They exist in multi-racial empires around the world.

    “Uniformly, racial preferences are imposed by the politically strong upon the politically weak.”

    https://www.whitenationalism.com/ls/ls-05.htm

    “The United States is built on one central moral ideal or paradigm – that many different racial groups can and should live in harmony in a single country.

    “The time has come for us to ask whether this central ideal of American political life describes reality. Does it work? Should it be abandoned?”

  438. @Thomm

    I think a million people a year are a quite a lot. The US economy on average generates around 150K to 200K jobs a month which tantamounts to around 1.8M. So perhaps half a million or say 300K to 400K “highly skilled” immigrants would be fine (not your average Java coolie).

    And eastern europe must also be given due consideration as it also a great talent pool

    • Replies: @Thomm
  439. Bach says:
    @Malla

    The warmongers have made many wars to teach honesty and good manners to the others around the world but to no avail.

    Are you a Neocon? That’s seriously warped.

    And people say human nature has no genetic component!!

    As I tried to explain, the Japanese were historically backward. To suggest they are culturally/genetically superior to its neighbors is pretty ironic in view of its full history.

    Japan was the first to modernize. That is all. There is not a material genetic difference among them.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
  440. usaIsDone says:

    The earlier commenter who said based on comments America is done is right. I came to the same conclusion from reading the comments. Most comments are of the following categories (some are combination of categories):
    a. comments from bigots and racists
    b. comments from ignoramuses who actually think they know something
    c. comments from those who make up facts because they cannot stand facts as being presented, I regard such people as fact-resistant.
    d. comments from those who like to avoid commenting on the actual issue altogether by raising whole set of other topics.

    While some time ago when I discovered unz.com, I thought all the relatively different articles on all kinds of topics would be good for America. But looking at the comments, I realize how wrong I was – USA is beyond repair, it’s done. Americans will deserve their inexorable decline. From the looks of it, it almost look pre-ordained.

  441. Bach says:
    @Malla

    But you see, some of the earliest Christians were Jews

    They were Judeans. They weren’t “Jews” in the modern sense of the word, who practice Rabbinic Judaism, an offshoot religion like Christianity and Islam.

    • Replies: @Malla
  442. Bach says:
    @Malla

    But the Euro immigrants defeated the Native Americans militarily. The Mexican and Chinese immigrants did not defeat White America.

    That’s true. But America was never pure white from the outset. And neither did white Americans try to preserve that quality. They aggressively imported black slaves and other immigrants. And mingled with Mexicans and Native Americans.

    So to the extent non-Whites were weaved into emerging Americana, they and their descendents earned the right to determine what America is and will be.

    America is not a white nation. It’s a predominantly white nation. And all its citizens have the right to determine its future.

    • Replies: @Malla
  443. Malla says:
    @Thomm

    Check this out, this is a brilliant read, I am quoting everything from the author
    from

    https://www.whitenationalism.com/cwar/pillar1.htm

    ….snip….

    Finally, I should also mention what I consider to be a significant flaw in Sir Arthur Keith’s masterpiece, Ethics and Evolution, in which he narrows Christianity to Matthew 5 (the Sermon on the Mount) and simply ignores the rest. It is an understandable flaw, given that empire builders since the Emperor Constantine have seen this marvelous catalogue of the “code of amity” as useful in amalgamating newly conquered tribes and nations and fusing their identity into a broader imperial “nation.” The Church also saw this modern catalogue useful for the purpose of vaulting tribal and national boundaries and building an ecclesiastical empire in which the entire planet would submit to Rome. Thus, Christianity has been a corrupted by Western elites for 1600 years and Sir Arthur merely accepted the modern practitioners interpretation without protest.

    In our modern multi-cultural societies, this universalized image of the brotherhood of man has filtered down into the lower ranks, as individual clergymen translate the Sermon on the Mount to mandate a standardless tolerance of all things – turning ones cheek to all manner of vice and overt attacks – a tolerance that is useful, so the modern clergy believe, for keeping the pews full on Sundays without regard to race, creed, national origin or sexual orientation.

    So I pardon Sir Arthur for accepting the practice of Christianity as he found it, rather than trying to instruct the world on its true meaning. Nevertheless, a short paragraph noting that Christianity reinforced genetic isolation and conferred practical survival advantages for the first three centuries of its existence – and ceased to do so once it fell into the hands of empire builders – would have been a vast improvement.

    [MORE]

    After much reflection I decided that the most important book for understanding our present predicament and our future course of action must explain our own central tendency and weakness – the quality that has led to our current precarious position. And indeed Charles Mackay’s masterpiece “Memoirs of Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds” written in 1841 explains that flaw or weakness – our propensity to delude ourselves in ways that are wildly contrary to our own self interest, both individually and collectively – with incomparable wit and style.

    No enemy could have brought the descendants of European Christendom to our current pass.

    Our own delusions are responsible. We have done it to ourselves.

    We have a long history of doing it, as Charles Mackay demonstrates.

    The book is popular today because of its brilliant and revealing descriptions of our “crowd behavior” during the investment manias such as the Tulip Mania (1635), John Law’s Mississippi scheme (1720), and the South Sea Bubble (1721). Mackay’s retelling of these classic investment manias in the first three chapters of the book would be valuable even if you stopped at that point.

    But for Euro-American Nationalists, the book has overpowering importance and explanatory value. You should not stop with the investment manias, because there are much more serious manias which regularly grip us.

    The most important chapters are those in which Mackay retells the history of the Crusades (1096 to 1291), and I should note that the dates of these major self-destructive manias will become important when I review Robert Prechter’s “At the Crest of the Tidal Wave”).

    Apparently at the end of the 11th Century, a mere three centuries after expelling the Moors from Southern France, Europe was so prosperous that the Nobles felt they could undertake a conquest of the birthplace of Christ.

    The crusades illustrate a fundamental racial characteristic of our people. We fight wars not for our own collective survival and not to further our own interests, but rather to vindicate some theoretical abstraction – in the case of the crusades it was to conquer the holy lands in the name of Christianity.

    Now if one were to stop and consider whether the armed conquest of Palestine was the most effective and efficient means of spreading Christianity, then the answer was certainly “no”. Missionary work is far less likely to harden hearts than armed invasion.

    Palestine was an impoverished land. Invasion could not secure much profitable trade, nor could it afford Europe a source of plunder or tribute. The inhabitants of Palestine presented no threat to the people of Europe. Conquest of Palestine could do nothing to enrich the European participants, nor could such conquest secure any survival advantage upon their European peoples.

    Indeed, one searches in vain for any words of Christ that would vindicate such an adventure. Nowhere can I find him instructing his disciples to invade other nations to attack and kill potential converts. Rather, in Mackay’s account, it seems much more of a gesture intended to allow the European nobles to prove their own religiosity and heroism to themselves.

    From a genetic and mathematical standpoint, it makes sense for a man to sacrifice his own life to save 3 brothers or 7 cousins. And indeed all of humanity, being social animals, seem pre- programmed to sacrifice themselves in just such a way, but without any precise or individualized calculus.

    The conquest of Palestine by European crusaders violates nature’s basic law, as it could confer no survival advantage upon the European peoples, nor could it increase the probability that the genes of the participants themselves might appear in future generations. Indeed the ferocity of their commitment to the cause was inversely proportional to the potential benefit.

    Thus, the crusading impulse appears primarily as a very expensive and wasteful (from a standpoint of individual genetic success) ornament of social status – a proof of right thinking ideals to the society which surrounded the bearer of those ideals.

    In fact, the only sacrifice that Christ demands of his followers is faith. But faith is not perceptible socially except by outward display. And for warriors meaning to impress other warriors within a warrior elite, the only display likely to matter is a military display with all of its attendant risks.

    Social science teaches us to suspect that noblemen would not engage in such wasteful and dangerous displays of self-righteousness unless such displays were in fact rewarded by the society which surrounded them. Indeed, the propensity to such displays would most probably not occur unless similarly wasteful displays of self-righteous behaviors had been rewarded regularly in the past with positions of leadership and social esteem.

    Those of you who have jumped ahead and read Geoffrey Miller’s “The Mating Mind” will recognize instantly that my view of the crusades represents an extension of Professor Miller’s thesis that the human mind evolved to its present capabilities not because it conferred a technological advantage in the struggle for survival, but as an expensive and essentially “wasteful” ornament in the sexual selection process. Singing, story telling, and cave drawings were the emblems of fitness for mating in our tribal bands 40,000 years ago just as Porsche sports cars, Armani suits and expensive diamonds are the expensive and wasteful ornaments of fitness for mating today.

    But of course Mackay’s description of the Crusades adds a broader dimension to that theory by suggesting that our self-destructive group manias are a profound part of our own evolutionary psychology and bear a basic and fundamental relationship to the size and capacity of our brains. Manias of millennial dimension (such as the crusades and the modern “human equality” mania) are wasteful ornaments of “right thinking” indulged without a care as to our individual or collective self interest and carried to extremes of self destruction similar to the behaviour of lemmings jumping off a cliff.

    Intellect and technology are fairly recent and accidental by-products of that brain – by-products that can save our race if collectively we can learn to supplant the status seeking wasteful displays with a hard-headed recognition of our collective self interest.

    I should note that the Crusades marked the climactic extreme of an elite based on military prowess and military ideals. From the ninth through the 13th centuries, nobility was defined by leadership in battle. It was a life marked by unpleasant physical effort and high mortality. The collective and socially reinforced mania of this military elite produced its destructive climax during the crusades, and following the height of that elite’s mania, the noblesse d’ epee was replaced by an entirely different elite – with an entirely different set of status markers described as the “code of the gentlemen”.

    In the place of the intense and absolutely sincere religiousity of the famous crusading kings – Louis VII through Louis IX of France and Richard I of England, you get the ribald humor and religious skepticism of Shakespeare and his enthusiastic audience of youthful earls two centuries later.

    Under this new elite, the military become hired hands rather than rulers. The “gentleman” hires others to do his fighting for him. A gentleman is fundamentally manipulative – the nascent “managers” of our modern age. Leadership in battle is reserved for unfortunate younger sons of noblemen and the intelligent and upwardly mobile risk-takers, while the actual soldiers are procured from the undesirables and especially white Christian ethnic minorities – the famous Scots guards and Welsh rifles of Imperial Britain.

    The gentleman becomes not a military leader but the “rentier.”

    He makes his living collecting rents from his lands worked by tenants, and disdains labor of any sort because it is a marker of low status. He devotes his energies to art, music and literature.

    Two hundred years after Shakespeare, we find the world of the gentleman rentier expressed in its purest form in the novels of Jane Austen, where fortures are much celebrated and admired, but the means of acquiring such a fortune may never be discussed.

    Throughout Jane Austen’s masterpieces, Pride and Prejudice, Sense and Sensibility, and Mansfield Park, we find repeated statements to the effect that “liberal opinions” are required of a prospective mate. In her novels we find not only powerful confirmation of Professor Miller’s thesis, but we also find in them very clear descriptions of the social interactions that create the impulsive and irresistible pressures to conform to the mania and accept its false premises.

    The basic and universal characteristic of a mania is collective group belief in what we all know as individuals to be obviously false, or to be dangerously contrary to our interests.

    Manias are always begun by elites, the most intelligent members of society believe the most earnestly, while the humble workers of our race tend to remain skeptical and relatively unenthusiastic. Hence the extreme irony of Mackay’s title. The delusions he describes are not “popular” nor are they the province of “crowds” but rather of the educated, literate and propertied. After all, to participate in an investment mania, you must have money to invest.

    But to sell a book to literate members of English Society in 1841, one must condescend to that audience and make it appear that manias are the peculiar province of low status undesirables. The author knows better, but then he also knows that the only way to induce the elites to abandon manias is to paint manias with the brush of low status. Logic will never dissuade them.

    Of course, by deceptively painting manias as “popular” and the province of “crowds,” the author fails miserably to cure the disease. He leaves every right thinking reader with the escape hatch of thinking that avoiding manias is a simple as avoiding low status crowds.

    But it is the need to impress one’s fellows through the display of right feelings and sensibilities that drives all manias. And the right feelings and the sensibilities that convey the greatest status among our race are those feelings which are the most contrary to our own self interest and the most solicitous of and generous toward the interests of others. The crass accumulation of wealth and the preservation of race or nation do not confer status. Rather, it is the renunciation of wealth and the sacrifice of our racial interests that elicits the greatest wonder and admiration and serves to set us apart, as individuals, from those so crass as to admit concern about such things.

    And for over 200 years, we Europeans have been firmly in the grip of a much more powerful and destructive mania than that which gripped the crusaders. Ever since the American and French Revolutions (which marked the end of the last grand supercycle downturn in public mood) we have been embroiled in the mania of human equality.

    The mania of the Crusades – the apogee of the warrior class – has this much in its defense: The divinity of Christ is not susceptible to disproof by readily observable fact.

    In contrast, examine the statement authored by Thomas Jefferson and placed in our Declaration of Independence – it is the very premise upon which the American nation is founded: “We hold these truths to be self evident – that all men are created equal.”

    It is obviously and self evidently false.

    Our own eyes tell us the contrary – that all men are profoundly unequal in their abilities and aptitudes, and that the groups to which they attach themselves display average inequalities as well.

    It is clear that the slave owning Jefferson knew his statement was false at the time he made it.

    So then the question is, why did he say it?

    The personal driver behind Jefferson’s statement was, of course, that all educated property owners were equal to their competitors, the hereditary aristocrats in Europe, and should share power with them.

    But when we hear the straight forward declaration of self-interest, we recognize instantly that educated property owners are few in number and are utterly powerless without the support of the millions who are not educated and do not own property, but are forced to sell their labor. Thus, the educated property owners – the gentleman rentiers – have no claim to political legitimacy unless they can enlist the support of those who are propertyless and uneducated.

    The gentlemen rentiers of America’s founding must fight a war against the Universalist Empire of Britain and cannot do it alone. And as the gentleman is inherently manipulative and deceptive, he makes an open ended promise that he knows is based on a wildly and obviously false notion that all men are created equal. It results in an implied promise that Jefferson knows will be utterly impossible to keep. But Jefferson makes the deceptive and manipulative promise anyway, because it is in his individual interest to make it.

    The problem with his statement, and the proof of its essential deceptive nature is the boundless potential for destruction held within it.

    If all men are created equal, then why should Jefferson and the other founders be rich while most of their countrymen are poor?

    At bottom, the statement that all men are created equal justifies the conquest of the entire world under a single empire, with the imposition of a single language and laws. After all, if all men are created equal, then the numerous local hues and divisions between us are all irrational and should be repressed by force. Ultimately those differences should be blended out of existence.

    It is a doctrine that gives rise to endless opportunities to profit from deception and manipulation, setting set one tribe against another with appeals to equality, while allowing confiscation of the produce of the hardworking and productive by appeals to equality interests of the less productive and less hardworking.

    Of course, the Inner Party would spot the opportunities immediately upon their emancipation in the 19th Century, and exploit them with devastating effect in the 20th.

    The opportunities for profit are endless. All it takes is a deceptive and manipulative “gentleman” to manage the promises, metering them out as the occasion demands.

    And if you think about it, it is obvious that the “gentleman” product of the Enlightenment has no real choice. The thousand year process of de-tribalization and amalgamation so elegantly chronicled by Sir Arthur Keith has produced an educated man of property who by 1775 can no longer say that he will depend upon his ethnic kinsmen to protect his freedom, property and sovereignty, because he no longer has any sense of that kinship.

    Rather he is reduced to promising that everyone on the planet can share with him as an equal.

    Borders become meaningless, barriers of language and culture meaningless, and powerful aesthetic notions of beauty and worth which attach to specific racially determined features and assert themselves so powerfully in the process of sexual selection, all become irrational nuisances to be suppressed in the name of equality and the advantage of universalist empire.

    This distinction between tribe and race is critical for us Western Europeans to understand.

    Race is a rather recent reality, the importance of which is only recognized by the “pioneers, “those of our brethren at the fringes of the empire who actually administered it and had extensive contact with alien races, or in more recent times, had extensive contact because we grew up in less desirable neighborhoods in one of the many multi-cultural paradises egalitarians have created for us.

    It is only after extensive contact with other races that we come to realize just how profoundly hostile they are to the survival of the European race. It is only after extensive contact that we realize just how limited and narrow our individual, personal options will become if these aliens are ever allowed a measure of power over us, and it is only after a hard nosed appraisal of that individual personal loss of choice, freedom and opportunity that we understand the importance of infusing racial identity into the dual code of amity for those within the race and enmity for those without.

    However, racializing a de-tribalized population is a difficult business. A task made infinitely more difficult by a socially reinforced mania which demands that we all acquiesce in demonstrable and obvious falsehoods.

    Unfortunately, it will be much easier to position ourselves to be the saviours of our race after the inevitable and intensely unpleasant collision with reality, than it is to attempt to talk them out of a mania that will only be reinforced by our resistance.

    Thus, we are faced with the Hobson’s choice of confronting our own kind now and hoping to change their behavior while they still have numbers and legal power on their side, or waiting until after the unpleasant collision, when we will be a distressed and impoverished minority.

    Those of us determined to attack the mania now must guard against the assumption that others will respond as we do when we explain the obvious silliness and falsehood of the egalitarianism and the obvious threat it poses to our collective self interest and survival. The very fact that otherwise sensible people can be made to acquiesce in a social order based on obvious and readily observable falsehoods is testimony to its strength – not its weakness.

    It is also testimony to how violently and viciously the mania will be defended.

    And it is in connection with our efforts to uproot this mania that we should read with particular interest, the witch trials described by Mackay.

    The enlightenment secularized and neutered Christianity as a force in public life in response to the slaughters of the religious wars in Europe.

    In place of Christianity, the enlightenment substituted a brand new faith – the brotherhood of man, in the vain hope that it would end intra-European violence. Of course, this new faith, based as it was upon demonstrable and obvious falsehoods, could only progress and be sustained with violence, and true to form, the blood began to flow almost immediately with the French revolution beginning in 1791.

    This new faith was tailor made to justify imperial wars of conquest, designed to bring the message of human equality and the material betterment of trade to those in need of uplift.

    But it has always been resistance to that new faith from European groups that has prompted the most savage outbreaks of bloodshed, from the U.S. Civil War, to the Boer War, to the Revolution if 1918 in Russia, and, ultimately the German reaction to that threat.

    The prosperity that followed WW-2 has reduced the inclination of Euros to resist the human equality mania en-mass, resulting instead in localized witch hunts, including war crimes prosecutions and hate crimes laws.

    As I have stated in prior posts, our challenge to this false god – the brotherhood of man – must be adapted to the circumstances existing at the time.

    It is completely clear that this particular delusion – like the crusading spirit in 1090 AD – is not merely a matter of internal belief, but rather external display adopted for the purpose of acquiring status through careless disregard of self interest and racial survival.

    …snip…

    Even if we cannot shame the outer party elites into fleeing their egalitarian delusions, it is critically important that the ordinary working Euro-Americans who must pay the price of their delusions be less in awe of their status, and less inclined to accept their leadership.

    • Replies: @Malla
  444. @Anonymous

    The Indians or the red man or Africans dont have the resources to try to control the world and they havent for quite some time. When Non-Europeans had the resources they attempted to annex or conquer different parts of the globe, ex Timurid & Genghis Khan, Tatars in Russia, Ottomans in the Balkans, etc etc . China is rapidly expanding its sphere of influence throughout the world as we speak with investments in Gwadar, Pakistan; a military base in Djibouti; and engaging in investment in the highly contested South China Sea oilfield as well as other places.

  445. DB Cooper says:
    @Malla

    You were right in your description. China at that time was pretty much a doormat to the imperial powers, after loosing many wars to the Western powers, conceding land left and right and have to pay war reparations to the imperial powers year after year. China at the beginning of the twentieth century was a basket case. What China did was to prevent a part of its territory, Tibet from being carved up rather than invaded a sovereign country. Glad we have this clear up.

    “That is true, but religion cannot be confused with ethnic groups all the time. ”

    What I am trying to say is that no Chinese emperor will debase himself to be a follower of a religion of another country. The Qianlong emperor was famously dismissive of Britain during his audience with Lord MacCartney was a good example of Chinese emperor altitude towards things foreign. The fact that Qianlong was a follower of Tibetan Buddhism only shows that Tibet was part of China during Qianlong reign.

  446. Malla says:
    @Malla

    What a brilliant analysis made by the writer. So much for Thomm’s claim, that White Nationalists are all low IQ losers.
    And this claim of White Nationalists being losers is what it is. It is a status symbol, just like going on a crazy crusade was a status symbol centuries ago. Elites, people who want to join the elites and thus emulate them (mostly middle classes), people pretending to be elites etc…, by looking down on White Nationalists are in effect saying ‘Oh look at those low class idiots believing in such archaic ideologies. Not for me, I am above them, I am cosmopolitan’ while wearing their monocles and sipping wine. What they do not realize that their belief in such a cosmopolitan world is illogical and is against human nature. It is going to be a disaster in the long run. But it is a delusion which is a marker of status today (who knows what the marker will be tomorrow). And we all know how important status is right? More important than facts or logic or wisdom sometimes unfortunately. That explains why a thug will undertake irrational and even self harming actions to get status brownie points among his peers and bitches. We humans have not evolved much from our ape ancestors, it seems.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  447. Malla says:
    @Bach

    It’s a predominantly white nation.

    Predominantly is key, and it is becoming much less predominant. That is the problem.

    • Replies: @Bach
  448. Malla says:
    @Bach

    You are right. Modern Judaism in it’s present form is (slightly) younger than Christianity.

  449. Thomm says:
    @Malla

    What a brilliant analysis made by the writer. So much for Thomm’s claim, that White Nationalists are all low IQ losers.

    Come on, you know better than to debate via anecdote. I will say that Indians are extremely prone to using ‘debate via anecdote’ as their primary tactic.

    Jared Taylor and the couple of others you mention are no more representative of the average WN than Thomas Sowell is representative of blacks. Or Dinesh D’Souza is representative of Indians, for that matter.

    • Replies: @Truth
  450. Thomm says:
    @HogHappenin

    You are mostly right. But note that only half or so of immigrants are job market participants. The other half are either housewives or minor children or college students. So a million immigrants = ~500K job market participants.

    And eastern europe must also be given due consideration as it also a great talent pool

    Of course. They are good. Note that emigration per capita in EE is higher than for India or China.

  451. Malla says:
    @Bliss

    The Brahmin is the ultimate in superiority inferiority complex feelings maybe second to only the Jews. For thousands of years, the Brahmin’s have told themselves and everybody else who bothered to listen or forced to listen, how awesome Brahmins are, that Brahmins are from the mouth of the creator lord, maybe god himself is a Brahmin but wanted to create a superior being than himself and thus created human Brahmins as his master piece blah blah blah…. All the holy books written by Brahmins themselves (but claiming they are messages from God) say Brahmins are super awesome. They sat on their asses for centuries chanting mantras while the Kshatriyas fought wars, Vaishyas traded and Shudras cleaned gutters and slaved around. Then came the White man with his technology and man, the Brahmin was pissed. ‘Siting on our asses for centuries chanting mantras and discussing philosophy and we could not even invent a steam engine or a telegraph, we will be the laughing stock of society. The British a complete people, who did all forms of work like from trading to washing cloths, to farming, to fighting wars to building bridges and tunnels at all levels of labour, somehow found out the time to innovate such wondrous things.’ The greatest creations of God now had these strange inferiority complex feelings compared to the White British, something he never felt to even the Turko Persian Muslim invaders and rulers. And hence superiority and inferiority complex feelings all at once. I would say this phenomenon is true for all Indians, but it is the most acute in brahmins.
    Thus you see them on treads throughout the World Wide Web, trying to resolve this inferiority complex feelings as well as the superiority complex feelings (best creation of God on earth) by trolling everybody and everything. Hence the ridiculous claims that ancient Indians had aircrafts and nanotechnology. After all, how could a people other than the Brahmins, the greatest creation of God in the Universe create the modern technological world???? “It just does not make no sense. Our own holy books written by us say we are the most awesome. Thus all technology and philosophy must come from India” That is what is deep inside the mind of the Brahmin/Indian troll.

    BTW many of my cousins are married to Brahmins, and most of my friends are Brahmins. I have no hatred for them as such, just analyzing things.

    • Replies: @Bliss
    , @Bliss
    , @Truth
  452. @Bach

    No I don’t have self-hate. I am just able to disassociate culture from ethnicity. I believe that people are free to adopt cultural traits that they deem superior, and align themselves with those who adopt the same cultural traits, regardless of ethnicity. I resent the tribal mentality that I need to align myself with a group of people who share a common ancestry with me, even if I have nothing in common with them.

    The libtards who run the media and academia in this country are always emphasizing the negative aspects of western culture, when it is they who tossed out the good cultural traits of western societies and replaced them with the depravity and debauchery that we are seeing today in Hollywood and the left. They tell all 3rd world immigrants to be proud of and hang on to their fucked up 3rd world cultures and I see lots of young immigrant children drinking the liberal Kool-aid by the buckets. Would you still want to live in the US if it becomes more like China, Mexico or India? There would be no point of your immigrating here would it?

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Bach
  453. Malla says:
    @Bach

    As I tried to explain, the Japanese were historically backward. To suggest they are culturally/genetically superior to its neighbors is pretty ironic in view of its full history.

    Comparing populations before the Industrial revolution is ridiculous. Populations who lived on good farmlands would obviously be richer in the pre Industrial era, have bigger populations dedicated to intellectual things (supported by a much bigger population of workers) compared to those populations who had limitations on food production. Populations can be really compared only after the Industrial revolution where the many inherent traits of the population become more important to prosperity than quality of farmland.

  454. @Ron Unz

    This whole thread has been great. Plenty of serious arguments punctuated by entertaining attacks.

  455. Malla says:
    @Bach

    Are you a Neocon? That’s seriously warped.

    No it is not. Stopping Sati in India or slavery in Africa brought more benefits to the others than the Warmongers. It was not Warmongers who were getting enslaved (at that portion of history) nor were Warmonger women jumping into funeral pyres.

    I am no Neocon. Neocons are a different lot. They want only Messiah and his rule. Enslavement to the chosen and following the seven laws of Noah is enuf for the lowly goys. ‘No need to behave like English gentleman or Japanese gentleman. Indeed I hate the English, German or Japanese Gentleman. Lets use media, revolutions and mass immigration to destroy those cursed over civilized aesthetically pleasing cultures. Indeed if most goys in the world adopt those cultures why will they follow the chosen?’ says the Neocon.

    • Replies: @Bach
  456. Malla says:
    @Bach

    As I tried to explain, the Japanese were historically backward. To suggest they are culturally/genetically superior to its neighbors is pretty ironic in view of its full history.

    Comparing populations in the pre Industrial era is ridiculous. That is because those populations who had better farmlands would be richer with bigger population to support a class of intellectuals than those who had more difficult agricultural conditions. Before Industrial revolution, competition was basically between productivity of land. It is only after the Industrial revolution that variation in various behaviour traits of populations could lead to huge differences in economic and social outputs of a country. After industrial revolution, the productivity of the people matters and before Industrial revolution, productivity of land mattered. So making such comparison in people’s achievements in agricultural era is wrong. Comparison between achievements of populations must start in Industrial era.

    Before the Industrial revolution, in the agricultural era, any tribe who lived near rivers like Nile, Eupratus-Tigris, Indus/Ganga would be more or less automatically be rich in grain and wealth and thus could support bigger population of scholars. After Industrial revolution that is not compulsory, now those populations who posses good traits (high IQ, honesty, politeness, control over primitive impulses etc…) more likely to become successful in this technological age. And the Japanese on average do posses amazing behavioral traits. Though Koreans and Chinese on average are not far behind. Arabs on average, really far behind. Africans on average….no comments.

    • Replies: @Bach
  457. Malla says:
    @Third world nationalist

    Whites seeing themselves as superior to others will not want to marry others hence assimilation will not happen.

    Whites are easy. Have you tried Indians or Middle Easterners for mass intermarriage?

  458. Malla says:
    @Anonymous

    Exactly. White nationalism is not interested in colonialism, that is what many non Whites do not get. Many White nationalists are perhaps proud of their colonial empire in size and power (who would not, Mongols have statues of Genghis Khan in Ulaan Batur, Zulus speak of Shaka Zulu with awe, Marathis talk about the Shivaji and the huge Maratha Empire), but they are not interested in colonialism and rule over darkies. All they want is a society of their own.

  459. Malla says:
    @Orwellian State

    The libtards who run the media and academia in this country are always emphasizing the negative aspects of western culture, when it is they who tossed out the good cultural traits of western societies and replaced them with the depravity and debauchery that we are seeing today in Hollywood and the left.

    Exactly!!! Nailed it!!!

  460. @Malla

    Contary to the popular belief the Tibeteans and the dalai Lama don’t want indepedence, they want economic development. The communist party is doing exactly that.

    https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/tibet-wants-to-stay-with-china-seeks-development-dalai-lama/articleshow/61767198.cms

  461. Malla says:
    @Anonymous

    Malla might be Indian as I have met Indians like him who are cringey in hoping to be accepted as an honorary white.

    Trust me you do not know me. I am proud to be an Indian as as per my Gotra I am a direct descendant of the Sage scholar Rishi Bharadwaj who lived in India thousands of years ago. And given the choice of being reborn somewhere else other than India, I would most probably choose Japan.

    • Replies: @Bliss
  462. Bliss says:
    @Malla

    You have a great hatred for Hindu casteism yet a great love for white racism. How do you reconcile that?

    In another post you advocated that white supremacists should adopt the techniques of Hindu casteists to keep non-whites (such as yourself) down.

    Too much hypocrisy, dishonesty, servility and self-loathing in your posts…

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  463. Bliss says:
    @Malla

    The Brahmins have much in common with the priestly caste of the Hebrews, the kohanim. Both claim to be God’s favorites. Both make (or made in the case of the kohanim) burnt sacrificial offerings to their god. Both are hereditary. Etc..

    • Replies: @Malla
  464. Malla says:
    @DB Cooper

    can’t blame the British Raj on this one

    Of course we cannot. India has/had imperialist tendencies, no denying that. We absorbed an independent nation called Sikkim. We treat Bhutan as a protectorate which was the arrangement the Kingdom of Bhutan had with the earlier British Indian government before 1947, but in these days of sovereign nations being members in the U.N. , it is morally wrong. We bark and bleat about British imperialism but we have taken or attempted to take all the strategic advantages the British left us. Just like how the Mau Mau Kikuyus who ran the government of Independent Kenya, used the same tactics the British used against them, against the Kenyan Somalis to the North when the Somalis wanted independence from Kenya.

    There are many insurgencies fighting for independence in the India northeast and these are totally indigenous movement without foreign involvement,

    They never wanted to be part of India but were forced. Now they fight for independence and we, a poor country have to spend millions on our armed forces to deny them their desire of independence. Same with Kashmir. But Bangladesh does the same with the Chitagong Hill tract peoples, Pakistan did the same with Bangladeshis and does the same to the Balosch and Pastuns today. All the three countries bray and bleat about British Imperialism while being Imperialist themselves. LOL

    All three of us (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh) are oligarchic states behind the facade of democracy. LOL Blaming the British rulers of the past, blaming each other (India and Pakistan), blaming China in the case of India, blaming the Mughal/Muslim rulers of the past in the case of India and blaming India in the case of Bangladesh are all tricks and propaganda to get the people’s attention taken away from important things. China does the same thing using Japan as the punching bag. It is all used to keep the masses busy, all bread and circuses.

    • Replies: @denk
    , @DB Cooper
  465. Malla says:
    @Bliss

    In another post you advocated that white supremacists should adopt the techniques of Hindu casteists to keep non-whites (such as yourself) down.

    You misunderstood.
    I wrote had the Whites used Hindu castist techniques, they could have kept the blacks as slaves for 1000 years instead of preaching Christianity. I was just making a point that there were/are other exploitive systems in world besides evil YT and YT are not uniquely evil. Anyways, mechanisation would make slavery redundant anyways.

    You have a great hatred for Hindu casteism yet a great love for white racism. How do you reconcile that?

    White racism only to get a White homeland or reconquest of traditional White homelands of Europe. Not to go and dominate others. I made an exception for South Africa and Rhodesia but that is a different matter as it would have benefited and protected the blacks. But if that is not possible, getting a White homeland like Transvaal and Orange Free State of the past.

    Upper caste Hindus like me are just parasites, Europeans comparatively do a lot more good and improve the standard of living wherever they go. Indeed the lower castes wanted the British to stay to protect them from the racist exploitive upper caste.

    This is written by Dr, Ambedkar, the hero of the lower castes against us upper castes and the guy who wrote the Constitution of India

    http://www.ambedkarintellectuals.in/attachment/19.plea-to-the-foreigner%5B1%5D.doc&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwi23Zjy_4HYAhVENY8KHdi-CegQFggTMAA&usg=AOvVaw2kvoy8AH8YeltsCiH0cuTx

    Send some of us Upper castes to rule a part of Africa and then send some Northern Euros or North East Asians to rule a similar but different part of Africa. And see the difference. I need not say anything else.

    • Replies: @Malla
  466. Malla says:
    @Bliss

    Too much hypocrisy, dishonesty, servility and self-loathing in your posts…

    Rubbish.

  467. Malla says:
    @Bliss

    The Brahmins have much in common with the priestly caste of the Hebrews, the kohanim. Both claim to be God’s favorites. Both make (or made in the case of the kohanim) burnt sacrificial offerings to their god. Both are hereditary. Etc..

    Except that the kohanim are allowed to eat beef and for any Hindu, anybody who eats beef is a vile sining barbarian ‘mlecha’. And Brahmins worship idols which is banned in Judaism.

    • Replies: @Bliss
  468. Malla says:

    Too much hypocrisy

    You speak of hypocrisy. Well I love that word because it is hypocrisy which sparked my interest in race realism and history. When I was younger I had gone to my ancestral village and by mistake I drank water from a glass that was meant for the lower castes, workers who worked our farms. And I was scolded by my granny and other relatives for drinking from the glass meant for the lower castes and as a upper caste Hindu boy I was not meant to do that. It was a gross sin. She sprinkled Ganges water on me and chanted some mantras to cleanse me.
    Yet my relatives would bray and bleat about British racism!!!
    Take that for hypocrisy. And it is common all around.
    And many of our independence struggle heroes believed in the caste system including Gandhi and Tilak. Fighting against British oppression but keeping a much worse caste oppression alive.
    Hypocrisy or what?

    With Ambedkar, Tilak Or Gandhi, Where Do You Stand On The Issue Of Caste System?

    https://www.youthkiawaaz.com/2016/04/caste-politics-india/

    And guess what we have exportded this wonderful system to Britain. The joys of multiculturalism/multiracialism.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/indian-caste-system-imported-britain-dalits-say-yes-upper-caste-hindus-say-no-1343069

    • Replies: @Bliss
  469. Bliss says:
    @Malla

    I am proud to be an Indian

    No you are not. Stupid of you to lie so brazenly. Anyone with half a brain can see that you wish you were white.

    • Replies: @Malla
  470. Malla says:
    @D. K.

    It is surprising that since the main article is about race and admissions in Harvard, no one mentioned two posts on this issue by La Griffe du Lion.

    The Colour of Meritocracy

    http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/color_of_meritocracy.htm

    Check out this part.

    If every 18-year-old Californian in 1990 competed for one of the 3500 seats in the UC Berkeley freshman class, the seats being filled in rank order of cognitive ability, the class would have looked like this:
    7 African Americans
    115 Hispanics
    3 American Indians et al
    1244 East Asians
    20 “Other Asians”
    2111 non-Hispanic Whites
    The odds of making it to Berkeley would have been:
    4912 to 1 for an African American
    1291 to 1 for a Hispanic, “Other Asian” or Indian et al
    16 to 1 for an East Asian
    99 to 1 for a non-Hispanic White

    Also he comes to similar conclusions as reached by you with a lot of data.

    The set asides for blacks and Hispanics bump applicants from the other groups. Non-Jewish whites take the biggest hit, because being the least able of the remaining groups (non-Jewish whites, Asians and Jews) they cluster near the bottom of that pack, and consequently are most vulnerable.

    Also check out
    The Death of Meritocracy

    http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/prop209.htm

  471. Bliss says:
    @Malla

    Except that the kohanim are allowed to eat beef and for any Hindu, anybody who eats beef is a vile sining barbarian ‘mlecha’. And Brahmins worship idols which is banned in Judaism.

    The Vedic Brahmins sacrificed cows (and horses and humans) and ate beef. The cow love and idolatry came in a later age.

    The major difference is that the brahmins were polytheistic and the kohanim were not.

    • Replies: @Malla
  472. Malla says:
    @Bliss

    Anyone with half a brain can see that you wish you were white.

    All I can tell them is, they are wrong. Did all those abolitionists who wanted to ban black slavery, secretly wish to be black???? They did what they felt was right. I do what I feel is right from my study of historical data, studies on race and gender, my own experiences and current demographics in the world. It is as simple as that. If I was forced by God to choose a different nationality than Indian, I would have most probably chosen Japanese. But the Japanese are not facing replacement as White people are, the Japanese are vilified but not to the extent as White people are by the established media and education system. And those vilifications are based on falsehood and propaganda. I feel that Hollywood is a bit anti-Japanese, so I started watching Japanese moves and am a big fan. Please do not waste my time with such stupid cliched accusations.

    • Replies: @Bliss
    , @Truth
  473. Bliss says:
    @Malla

    That’s funny, just a few posts ago today you were boasting about your caste…

    How is that not hypocrisy?

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Ron Unz
  474. Malla says:
    @Malla

    Sorry about that link, it may not work.
    Here a new link. Do read it please.

    http://velivada.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/plea-to-the-foreigner.doc

  475. Malla says:
    @Bliss

    True, but the Hinduism we have now is Puranic Hinduism, not Vedic Hinduism but many Vedic concepts have been continued. Vedic Hinduism is more similar to Zoroastrianism and European Paganism.

    https://yogaforums.com/t/is-puranic-hinduism-the-most-stupidest-religion-in-the-world/8623

    Hindus now consider beef eaters as gross sinners. There are cow protection goon squads roaming all of India beating up people found or suspected for trading in or eating beef. Sometimes they may kill you if they just hate your face.

    Gau Rakshak’s EXPOSED: The Newshour Debate (5th Aug 2016)
    Gau rakshaks are cow protection goon squads. Basically low IQ uneducated unemployed thugs.

    Dead Cow More Important Than Lives of Dalit: The Newshour Debate (20th July 2016)

  476. Malla says:
    @Bliss

    boasting about your caste

    Mentioning is not boasting.

    • Replies: @Bliss
  477. Bliss says:
    @Malla

    Your posts reveal an unhealthy obsession with northwest europeans, not japanese. You are using them as a deflection.

    Secondly, the japanese are hard core racist shintoists who are contemptuous of other asians especially south asians such as yourself. This is another example of your pathetic self-loathing.

    Thirdly, the japanese are inordinately proud of being anointed “honorary aryans” by the nazis and “honorary whites” by the South African apartheid regime. Even your attempt at deflection reveals your servile white worship.

    • Replies: @Malla
  478. Bliss says:
    @Malla

    Mentioning is not boasting.

    When you use the word “proud” when mentioning, as you did, then it sure is.

    • Replies: @Malla
  479. Malla says:
    @Bliss

    Your posts reveal an unhealthy obsession with northwest europeans, not japanese. You are using them as a deflection.

    No, I did not not deflect. I do not see any “unhealthy obsession”. If you see it, that is your problem

    Secondly, the japanese are hard core racist shintoists who are contemptuous of other asians especially south asians such as yourself. This is another example of your pathetic self-loathing.

    I do not give a damn what the Japanese think. that is their problem. As far me being pathetic self loathing, that is a big assumption on your part without knowing me personally. My problem is I love myself too much.

    Thirdly, the japanese are inordinately proud of being anointed “honorary aryans” by the nazis and “honorary whites” by the South African apartheid regime. Even your attempt at deflection reveals your servile white worship.

    LOL. Really?
    All this seems like an attempt to shut me out. LOL

  480. Malla says:
    @Bliss

    I do not recall. You do the hard work of pointing it out. Yawn.

  481. Truth says:
    @Thomm

    LOL

    Hey, somebody brought up the Double-D Bomb!

    Hey Malla, how do you feel about Dinesh D’Souza. I read one of his books and he made a few good points, but man is one one dumb-looking bastard.

    • Replies: @Malla
  482. Truth says:
    @Malla

    For thousands of years, the Brahmin’s have told themselves and everybody else who bothered to listen or forced to listen, how awesome Brahmins are, that Brahmins are from the mouth of the creator lord, maybe god himself is a Brahmin but wanted to create a superior being than himself and thus created human Brahmins as his master piece blah blah blah….

    LMFAO!

    Isn’t this what you’ve been saying about white people for the last two weeks?!?!

  483. Truth says:
    @Malla

    If I was forced by God to choose a different nationality than Indian, I would have most probably chosen Japanese.

    Malla, come on now homie, get back to telling the truth: You just know grew up idolizing Bobby Brady like Homeboy from Louisiana.

    • Replies: @Malla
  484. Malla says:

    Hey Truth,

    Looks like a conspiracy afoot to shut me out. Conspiracies. LOL I am Indian. Life is full of conspiracies in my country, I think I will survive. Besides you know you are speaking the truth, when you piss off people. I am on the right tract, I am happy to say.

    Dinesh D’Souza, he is great!!! Enjoy see him decimate his opponents in debates. He is good at it. Somebody should stop him, he is too good.
    Dinesh D’Souza is someone who I would not call a Western Civilization nationalist which is a tad bit different than White Nationalism. And why should he not be? I think Razib Khan can be called one too.
    I disagree with their kind. They think the White race is not important/essential for Western Civilization. Anybody from any part of the world can be part of it if they accept their ideals. That is the view I had earlier.
    My present view is that the White race is essential but it is possible for people from other civilizations to become part of Western civilization, as long as their numbers are small.

    • Replies: @Truth
  485. denk says:
    @Malla

    ‘ China does the same thing using Japan as the punching bag. It is all used to keep the masses busy, all bread and circuses.’

    Nonsense !
    China dosent need to rile the masses up against the Jp,
    when Jp has been doing a damn fine job
    all the way back to the Ming dynasty !

    Take two tablets and see me tomorrow !

    [1] Jp

    http://www.unz.com/article/the-new-great-game-the-west-uyghers-and-china/#comment-1038570

    [2] FUKUSI[NDIA] = fuck UK + US + INDIA.

    http://www.unz.com/article/the-new-great-game-the-west-uyghers-and-china

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  486. Malla says:

    Isn’t this what you’ve been saying about white people for the last two weeks?!?!

    LOL, Is that how you took it?

  487. Malla says:
    @Truth

    Malla, come on now homie, get back to telling the truth: You just know grew up idolizing Bobby Brady like Homeboy from Louisiana.

    Who is he? Tell me about him. I am all ‘ears’ (or eyes in this case).

    Before the Industrial revolution, in the agricultural era, any tribe who lived near rivers like Nile, Eupratus-Tigris, Indus/Ganga would be more or less automatically be rich in grain and wealth and thus could support bigger population of scholars. After Industrial revolution that is not compulsory, now those populations who posses good traits (high IQ, honesty, politeness, control over primitive impulses etc…) more likely to become successful in this technological age. And the Japanese on average do posses amazing behavioral traits. Though Koreans and Chinese on average are not far behind. Arabs on average, really far behind. Africans on average….no comments.

    Wait who wrote this??? Oh it was me. Comment 466 I see. Yet people find it hard to believe I think highly of the Japanese population.

    I do not see any thing wrong in his analysis. The Japanese are on average more honest, clean, polite people then other Asians. Even early European explorers realized this.

    Was that me? Yes it was. Comment 418.

    • Replies: @Truth
  488. Malla says:
    @denk

    “fuck INDIA.”
    Denk, Fuck YOU piece of shit. No need to insult countries like that.

    Piracy was long time ago. World was full of pirates. See I like Chinese people and culture, but the Japanese are honest brave Teutonic race. Maybe the Chinese pissed them off or something. But China is famous for false propaganda against Japan.

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/jan/13/china-rewrites-history-books-to-extend-sino-japanese-war-by-six-years

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/may/21/inside-china-anti-japanese-tv-propaganda-dramas-ba/

    • Replies: @denk
  489. AaronB says:

    That an Indian is defending Whites shows how low the status of Whites has fallen.

    Whites are so little a threat that they must be defended.

    Ultimately this is a good thing – a world where Whites are no longer so ridiculously far ahead of everyone else is a world where White guilt cannot exist.

    The era of White greatness is over, perhaps now the era of White happiness can begin.

    White guilt and political correctness are the last fading consequences of the era of White greatness, and will pass away with its cause.

    The karmic payback for so outstripping everyone else (ruthlessly pursuing power more than anyone else) may be coming to an end.

    Perhaps, with the ongoing collapse of science, Whites can have a culture again, and won’t be trapped in the “zone of abstraction”, which will fade away with its cause, the desire to gain power over the physical world.

    It is interesting too that an Indian is the one with the self confidence to stand ip for Whites.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Anonymous
  490. Malla says:
    @denk

    This is for you denk,

    Japan was wrongly vilified in the past.

    • Replies: @denk
  491. denk says:
    @Malla

    Maybe the Chinese pissed them off or something

    Fuck you asshole.

    I show you a full list how the Jp has been agressing on China since the Ming dynasty and you only talk about the piracy ?

    YOu’r sounding exactly like that Jp FM Mr Aso san !

    • Replies: @Malla