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[Excerpted from the latest Radio Derb, now available exclusively through VDARE.com]

The brave spirits of Seattle originally named their new country Chaz, for Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone. Just as all that was in play, we learned that Chaz has renamed itself to Chop, the Capitol Hill Organized Protest. Why? I asked around.

Apparently the authorities in Chaz were immensely flattered to see themselves being compared to French Revolutionaries. Now, a thing everyone knows about the French Revolution—even, I guess, the drug-addled, low-IQ, miseducated rabble running Chaz—a thing everyone knows is that the revolutionaries chopped off the heads of the former ruling class, including the king and queen, with the guillotine.

“That’s what we’ll do!” the Seattle mob is telling us by renaming themselves Chop.[They’re already joking about guillotines in CHAZ/CHOP By Thomas Lifson, American Thinker, June 16, 2020 ]

But, since the teaching of history collapsed into anti-white sermonizing forty years ago, nobody much younger than sixty knows that a couple of years after that wonderful, laudable chopping-off of aristocratic and counter-revolutionary heads in France, the original radical revolutionaries themselves faced the blade. Danton got chopped; so did Robespierre; so did Desmoulins; so did Saint-Just; and so on.

And every other radical revolution has followed the same path. Russia? There is a mighty host of Old Bolsheviks lined up in the Afterlife to tell you all about it: Kamenev, Zinoviev, Bukharin, Trotsky, …

China? Look up Wang Shiwei, Liu Shaoqi, Peng Dehuai, and several million others. Mao didn’t do things by halves.

And if comparing the Seattle mob to French revolutionaries is in the air, I can’t resist laying on you once again the line—I know I’ve used it before—the line from Ramzpaul to the protestors outside the 2014 American Renaissance conference, quote:

Do you really imagine you’re sticking it to the Man? You are the Man!

For the Mighty—the big corporations, the prestigious colleges, the media, the Uniparty that has a stranglehold on our politics, our Woke judiciary that has an even tighter death-grip on our jurisprudence—for them, for the mighty in their seats of power, these riots and lootings and vandalism and silencings are all gravy.

And like trained puppies, the Mighty know what to do without being told. When the anti-white shakedowns started in earnest forty years ago, when white Americans still had a few vertebrae and a smidgen of testosterone, the shakers—Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and Michelle Obama—had to put in a bit of effort to squeeze some blood from the Establishment stone.

They had to actually show up at the corporate headquarters, with a dozen or so mean-looking retainers alongside, and make veiled threats t o bring the company’s operations to a standstill if they didn’t pony up a million or two to Rev’m Al’s National Action Network, Rev’m Jesse’s Rainbow Push, or Michelle’s Public Allies.

Nice little hospital you have here. Be a shame if your workers marched off the job to protest discrimination …

ORDER IT NOW

No more of that! Now that the Mighty know which side of the who-whom game it’s the most profitable and the most trouble-free to be on, and which side wins the most media applause—think positive free advertising —and which side best preserves their power, status, and wealth; now that’s all clear, the shakedown artists don’t have to do anything.

The money flows in automatically, overnight, while Al, Jesse, Michelle, and whoever runs Black Lives Matter are all sleeping—or whatever it is these bloodsuckers do at night.

“You are the Man!” At any rate, the Man has no problem with you, nor any major point of ideological disagreement. The people they do have a problem with are the harassed, underpaid, overtaxed, disillusioned and dispirited, mocked and humiliated, scorned and silenced white middle class.

Will the worm turn at some point? Will middle-class whites discover those missing vertebrae?

I wouldn’t bet on it. I’m going to come straight out and confess my darkest, most uncharitable thoughts, though. Here they are. Listeners of tender sensibilities might want to skip.

If a miracle happens, and middle-class white Americans stand up and start yelling back at the mob, and take charge of things once again, I would look forward to seeing Jack Dorsey, Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, Sundar Pichai—that’s the CEO of Google—Jeff Zucker, Rachel Maddow, Chris Hayes, Don Lemon, Bill de Blasio, Dean Baquet, Jay Inslee, Lindsey Graham, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, … How many is that? Am I up to a tumbril-full? This is just the first batch, mind.

If such a miracle were to happen, I’d be thrilled to watch these Establishment parasites headed down Pennsylvania Avenue on a big old tumbril for an appointment with Madame la Guillotine on the White House lawn. Thrilled? I’d stand on line all night to get a front row seat, with the tricoteuses.

That would be revolution—real revolution, not the self-indulgent play-acting of pampered pets.

Jack, Mark, Jeff, Chuck, Nancy: come on, get aboard that tumbril. It only hurts for an instant if it’s done right.

John Derbyshire [email him] writes an incredible amount on all sorts of subjects for all kinds of outlets. (This no longer includes National Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him.) He is the author of We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism and several other books. He has had two books published by VDARE.com com: FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT (also available in Kindle) and FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT II: ESSAYS 2013.

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  1. Exile says:

    Mark Zuckerberg belongs to a very influential ethnic group of “establishment parasites” – those J-things you never name.

    If you can’t name them, you can’t fight them. I used to believe otherwise, fairly recently in fact.

    But as things stand, these “establishment parasites” will manage to maintain de facto control over all of America’s important institutions of political, legal and public opinion power and influence unless the efforts of the opposition are specifically directed at removing them from power, and ultimately from our nations entirely.

    Otherwise, they will simply sacrifice a few of their foot-soldiers, allow a few tame goyim some permitted raycisms (but never anti-Semitisms), fade into the shadows and attack Whites wearing another mask. They have dozens of these groups – gays, trannies, liberal women, Muslims and every non-White ethnic group other than Blacks.

    And they have cover to hide in because guys in positions to level criticism dare not name them, even as they grow so old that little time remains to honor and speak the truth as they damned well know it. I’m looking at Limbaugh on this as well.

    • Agree: Gordo, lavoisier
    • Replies: @atavism
    , @Reg Cæsar
    , @Derer
  2. My God — we must be in “interesting times”. Derb, here, appears to be a … a — Socialist:

    “For the Mighty—the big corporations, the prestigious colleges, the media, the Uniparty that has a stranglehold on our politics, our Woke judiciary that has an even tighter death-grip on our jurisprudence—for them, for the mighty in their seats of power, these riots and lootings and vandalism and silencings are all gravy.”

    Derb is spot on. He’s seen through all the BS appearances. Hopefully this is NOT an anomaly, a temporary departure from the second order business of whinging about immigration etc…. Anyway, one can live in hope.

  3. I thought Mark Zuckerberg was filthy rich.
    You’d think he could invest in some eyebrows…

    • Replies: @The OverSeer
  4. If anyone cares to

    Look up Wang Shiwei, Liu Shaoqi, Peng Dehuai, and several million others,

    they’ll find that Mao was strongly averse to killing even bitter enemies.

    Though Chiang Kai Shek had Mao’s wife murdered and his son thrown onto the street, for example, Mao treated him with great courtesy and released him on his own parole.

    When he heard, some years after the event, about the execution of Wang Shiwei he asked, “Return Wang to me! What harm is there in not executing people? Those amenable to labour reform should go and do labour reform so that rubbish can be transformed into something useful. Besides, people’s heads are not like leeks. When you cut them off, they won’t grow again. If you cut off a head wrongly there is no way of rectifying the mistake even if you want to”.

    Liu Shaoqi lived to a well above average 71, and Peng Dehuai, a fervent Stalinist outlived Liu and, like him, died in his bed.

  5. swamped says:

    “If a miracle happens, and middle-class white Americans stand up and start yelling back at the mob, and take charge of things once again, I would look forward to seeing Jack Dorsey, Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, Sundar Pichai—that’s the CEO of Google—Jeff Zucker, Rachel Maddow, Chris Hayes, Don Lemon, Bill de Blasio, Dean Baquet, Jay Inslee, Lindsey Graham, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, … How many is that? Am I up to a tumbril-full? This is just the first batch, mind”…wait…there on the horizon..is it?..yes, we can just make it out now..looks like the second batch coming into view..in the front of the second tumbril..of course, that frumpy pant suit, it’s Hillary, with Madeline Albright at her side, & then Haim Saban, Sheldon Adelson, Mort Fridman, Richard Perle, Elliot Abrams, Bill Kristol, Jonathan Greenblatt, Rham Emanuel, Victoria Nuland & last but least Jared Kushner. Ok, good day’s work.
    Then, ‘if the worm turn[s]’ & middle-class whites “discover those missing vertebrae”…please, no more rioting & bloodshed. Guillotines are so French, after all. And beheadings are better left to public squares closer to Mecca. So couldn’t we just send them all to Guantanamo instead?

    • Replies: @SMK
    , @SMK
  6. Dumbo says:

    I don’t think so. I just tried to access the video channel “Slave New World”, which had some interesting content, and:

    “This account has been terminated due to multiple or severe violations of YouTube’s policy prohibiting content designed to harass, bully or threaten.”

    I have watched a few videos and there was basically zero “harassment, bullying, or threatening”. Actually, who is harassing, bullying or threatening producers constantly is Youtube’s (((CEO))).

    Welcome to 1984! Don’t ever criticize Blacks, Jews or Homosexuals!

  7. Svevlad says:

    Based and beheadmentpilled

    They are all demoralized – as we know, demoralization is permanent and irreversible, but not heritable. It’s why Russia today isn’t globohomo, despite the OG commie revolution definitely being very globohomo – they inadvertedly had all the spreaders of demoralization executed. The communist party itself purged itself of the demoralized by the time Stalin came to power.

    Such is the scenario here, whoever “wins”. If whites win immediately, it’s over, and from then on business as usual.

    If antifa wins (BLM can’t win, too incompetent), they terrorize whites until what happened in the USSR happens – from extremely anti-russian korenizatsiya to maximum russification. 1st generation will be very autochauvinist, the second generation very chauvinist instead. Picture millions of minorities being deported around or purged entirely for being parasitical

    • Replies: @Hartnell
  8. Emslander says:

    If antifa wins (BLM can’t win, too incompetent), they terrorize whites until what happened in the USSR happens – from extremely anti-russian korenizatsiya to maximum russification. 1st generation will be very autochauvinist, the second generation very chauvinist instead. Picture millions of minorities being deported around or purged entirely for being parasitical

    Tonight (June 20, 2020) could be a turning point. The shitbags could get their due down in Tulsa. Can’t imagine people with legal guns not defending their lives or property. Anyway, it WILL happen.

  9. The young helpmeet of Faceberg’s Mark Zuckowitz
    Says he don’t want to f*** ’er, just suck ’er t***,
    While moaning “Oh, Mommy!”
    And “Nommy nom nommy!”
    (I meant Zuckerberg, I’m such a chucklewit!)

    • Replies: @atavism
  10. conatus says:

    Black Lives Matter would be a lot less appealing to virtue signaling Moms who want to jump on board and be Goodwhites if they knew BLM wants to abolish the family.
    In other words, “Hey nice Mom, we want to abolish you and have your kid raised by the state”
    from here:https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/

    From the BLM  mission statement:

    “We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.”

    • Replies: @VinnyVette
    , @Alden
  11. @conatus

    The family was already abolished by third wave feminism decades ago. The womynz are well aware and could give two fucks about “the family”!

  12. unit472 says:

    Apparently things are not quite as hunky dory in non profit/SJW land as you might think. Read this press release from the Ford Foundation on their effort to issue ‘Social Bonds’ to prevent their non profit network from collapse.

    https://www.fordfoundation.org/ideas/equals-change-blog/posts/our-social-bond-to-strengthen-the-social-justice-sector/

    Grants from state and local governments are being cut as tax revenue collapses. Powell’s efforts to juice asset prices by lowering interest rates hits the big foundations too. Interest income goes down and while share prices may go up those are paper profits that cannot be distributed to foundation clients without liquidating the asset. Donations are, of course, drying up too.

    Someway must be found to access the hundreds of billions in Fed QE money for the non profit sector. Social bonds would seem to be the preferred mechanism. The rating agencies give them a AAA or AA rating based on Ford’s, Kellogg’s or other foundations pile of assets so banks and companies seeking the ESG seal of approval will buy them and, ultimately they can then be sold to and put on the balance sheet of the Federal Reserve.

  13. Realist says:

    Look On the Bright Side—BLM “Revolution” May Eat Its Parents Too, Starting with Mark Zuckerberg

    Not likely…but poetic justice is beautiful.

  14. Realist says:

    Jack, Mark, Jeff, Chuck, Nancy: come on, get aboard that tumbril. It only hurts for an instant if it’s done right.

    You’re leaving off thousands of names…but it is a small start.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  15. Miro23 says:

    Redmudhooch linked to an interesting article by Chris Hedges on Truthdig.com: https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-coming-collapse/

    The sentence that sticks in my mind is;

    As a foreign correspondent I covered collapsed societies, including the former Yugoslavia. It is impossible for any doomed population to grasp how fragile the decayed financial, social and political system is on the eve of implosion.

    The move to collapse can be very quick – for example in the Weimar Republic.

    They fixed all their problems with QE (issuing debt) which worked fine until it didn’t.

    • Thanks: SafeNow
  16. nsa says:

    Papist Paddy and Dweebyshire are dynamite on the niggers, but unable to finger the jew tribe capable of actually getting back at them and ending their pathetic careers. Trumpstein and his merry band of yid bandits drop 5 trillion dollars ($5,000,000,000,000) on Wall St and corporate Amelika to bail out their friends, relatives, and sponsors……but in Paddy-Dweeby world the powerless BLM afros and a few 250 lb green haired lezzies in Seattle are the real problem. The tribe has to be laughing its ass off……

  17. Derbyshire-himself an expat who wandered the planet in his salad days and made his name as an English teacher in China-seems to forgotten the invention of the jet airplaine.

    All these tech billionaires own one. As well as three or four passports.

    They don’t have to sneak out of France in the back of a horse drawn carriage-or get caught doing so. They just charter the private jet off to NZ-a popular second citizenship for tech millionaires.

    Their money is mostly bank overseas anyhow.

    Only rubes, hicks, proles, local yokels, hayseeds, rednecks, lumpens believe that everyone is a son of the soil who will sit around waiting to have their heads chopped off.

    These people don’t give a rat’s ass about the place they were born-which they spend all their time trying to run into the ground anyhow-and they will be on that plane faster than a South African diamond heiress.

    We saw this in South Africa. The upper class all moved to Australia. The Boer farmers and bus drivers were all left to watch the rand collapse and see their elderly mother raped while the wealthy hauled ass to UK, Australia, Canada.

    As if someone like Zuckenberg cannot fly off to NZ without a single thought. Champagne is just as chilled down in Auckland.

    The lumpens always act amazed when the wealthy leave. It happened in Cuba, it happened in South Africa, it happened in Rustbelt cities. The white working class sits around blinking in amazement at the fact that the wealthy took off and don’t care what happens to them.

    A lifelong expat like Stryker knows. He’s been overseas a long time and knows that all wealthy people have second passports, second houses, second bank accounts. Dubai, for some reason, is popular with liberal actors. They all own a piece of the burj.

    The proles are being naive here.

    Time and time again they have been abandoned as societies collapsed.

    • Agree: Alden, Kratoklastes
    • Replies: @Miro23
    , @Amerimutt Golems
  18. Art Deco says:

    I have no clue why the goofy and ineffectual Lindsay Graham is on your list, nor why you’ve jumbled people of real (nefarious) influence with a public nuisance like Don Lemon.

  19. Rahan says:

    By 1989, the population of the USSR was 70% Slavic, and nation-wise–51.4% Russian.
    https://infogalactic.com/info/Demographics_of_the_Soviet_Union

    The United States is currently around 60% non-Hispanic white, probably less , because they lump in Arabs and such. My hunch is non-Hispanic whites in the US of A are currently within the range of Russians as percentage of the population of the USSR at the time of its demise.
    https://infogalactic.com/info/Demography_of_the_United_States#Race_and_ethnicity

    Even in its wretched current state, the USA is more flexible and with greater regeneration reserves than the USSR in this very situation 30 years ago, but still, it’s touch and go.

    And don’t think that the whole isn’t greater than the sum of its parts. The USSR was always second place of the world’s GDP, all the way up to before Perestroika.
    https://infogalactic.com/info/List_of_countries_by_largest_historical_GDP

    Today Russia’s GDP is not even in the top 10, never has been since 1990, and today is at most the size of South Korea’s and that’s a huge victory, compared to the first 15 years after 1990. So once a big system starts falling apart, each of the smaller pieces will be much weaker than before.

    So, if the USA does start splitting up, everyone will lose a whole lot. Well, except the transnational corporations, they will gain, obviously.

    I still think the best longterm way to go is splitting up the states where the urban hives dominate the sane countryside, and thus ending up with around 80 states, and possibly a new balance for this century.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  20. Anon[149] • Disclaimer says:

    If part of Seattle, worth billions, is still, under control of these people then that clearly means that CHAZ/CHOP is supported (politically, materially, informationally, etc) by the formal intelligence community.

  21. Miro23 says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    True, but the USA is a very nice piece of real estate. Pity to give up ownership so easily.
    If it falls into chaos, they’ll no doubt try to hold on (emergency dictatorship) and only if that fails, make a run for it.

  22. neutral says:

    No it won’t, this is totally a jewish created and controlled operation, the jews can shut this down at any time, if BLM started noticing jews they would be finished in days.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  23. Daniel H says:

    Stickin’ it to the Man.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  24. Those who think they’re speaking truth to power are speaking lies to themselves.

  25. You are just confused. Sadly confused. You actually think the white middle-class would rise up against their heroes? Really? Do you actually know any white middle class? You actually think they’d get off their barca-loungers for any reason at all except maybe a little anal yard-work?

    For your information, the white middle-class loves rich people. Rich people are their friends. They want to nuzzle their hinder-parts with utmost abandon.

  26. Alden says:
    @conatus

    Sounds like the original 1880s kibbutzes in Palestine. Kids raised in nurseries from birth. Mother’s graciously allowed to enter the nurseries several times a day to feed the babies. I’m sure they substituted goats milk as soon as possible.
    Communal dining so the women were spared the horrors of cooking for their families. This was so the women could enjoy the glorious happiness of sweating away digging up fields with pick and shovel and other hard farm work, such as digging irrigation ditches in the hardest clay.

    The kids of course ate in their separate barracks. The kibbutz commies did allow marriage how generous.

    Anyone see a pattern here?

  27. Nothing that a whiff of grapeshot can’t finish. Vive la République !

  28. Hartnell says:
    @Svevlad

    I’d argue in essence we are in the second generation. The first who started to really create this mess was the baby boomers. Gen X never really seemed too bothered and even downright critical at times. It’s the Millennials who are the true second generation and they are going full blown young pioneers. As a majority, they unfortunately cannot be persuaded. They are too collectivistic in their outlook. I would not be surprised if the establishment told them to do kamikaze strikes in the name of “diversity”, they would even hesitate.

    The Zoomers are interesting however. I wouldn’t call them nationalists but they are becoming more sceptical or even critical of the system. This usually happens in the third generation, as it was in the USSR. The system usually collapses when the third generation stops believing in it.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  29. neutral says:
    @obwandiyag

    I was not aware that Floyd was rich before he ascended to godhood? For your information whites love blacks, I don’t think the sincerity of true love is a substantial amount, but most need to love them because of the abject fear of being renounced as a racist.

  30. As much as this phase of the latest black rioting cycle (what are we on, 3.1 now?) is destructive, it’s this Cultural Revolution in an advance phase that I detest the most. Both the black-ass-kissing and the destruction of monuments and statues to American history that are well above and beyond anything seen before. It’s not just “are White people ready to rumble?”, but are some of us ready to do a part in serious defense against this stuff, when most White people may not be worth defending at this point anyway.

    Peak Stupidity says it’s time to pray for guidance now.. You’ve mentioned you are an atheist or agnostic, Mr. D., but why not do this too?

    I appreciate all the good comments here this time, especially from Rahan and a good one from Mr. Stryker too.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  31. @Godfree Roberts

    “Besides, people’s heads are not like leeks. When you cut them off, they won’t grow again. If you cut off a head wrongly there is no way of rectifying the mistake even if you want to”.

    Brilliant! Mr. Mao was gentleman and a scholar.

    Mr. Godfree, in lieu of using up a valuable [Troll] tag, I’ll just tell you that even the Communists on unz think your Mao sack-hanging exposes your latent retardation.

    • Troll: Godfree Roberts
  32. DB Cooper says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    “Liu Shaoqi lived to a well above average 71, and Peng Dehuai, a fervent Stalinist outlived Liu and, like him, died in his bed.”

    Oh please. Liu was severely beaten and sadistically tortured and died alone naked in bed and was anonymously cremated because no one dared to touch this political liability even after his death. He was only posthumously reinhabitated after Deng came to power. I have discussed with you about this subject and provided you with material from the Chinese government itself. Xi himself has publicably acknowledged Liu’s persecution in at least one of his speeches (again I have provided you with material on this before in one of our exhanges) and the Chinese Communist Party has publicably available online material on Liu’s persecution (I have provided you with material on this). That he factually died in bed instead of getting a bullet in his head or getting his head cut off and implying that his death wasn’t unnatural is intellectually dishonest and deliberately misleading. Peng Dehai got the same fate because he was outspoken and dared to speak up in the Lushan convention after the dissatrous Great Leap Forward and for this offense Mao was nursing a hatred for him for years and he finally met his fate when he was beaten up and died an unnatural death in the cultural revolution, same as Liu.

    “they’ll find that Mao was strongly averse to killing even bitter enemies. ”
    I really don’t know where you get this from. Mao was a petty vindictive viscous piece of shit that only cares about himself.

    Here is a word of advice for you. Stick to writing on contemporary China (where you can visit and do investigation) because by and large you are more right than wrong and certainly better than the nonsense churned out by the msm. Refrain from writing on Mao and Mao’s China because you don’t have a clue and have no business even writing about it much less with a sense of authority. Where did you get that arrogrance?

    Since I have provided you with first hand material from the Chinese government itself (I remember you said you have someone translated it for you so you can read it in English) about what happened to Liu Shaoqi and you still write what you wrote, I know you are not clueless you are malicious. And this is extremely disgusting. Derbyshire called you risible but I call you a fucking piece of shit.

    I hope you will died just like Liu Shaoqi.

    • Agree: Druid
    • Replies: @Godfree Roberts
    , @fish
  33. atavism says:
    @Exile

    That face of Zuckowicz. Weird. Soulless. And the haircut. Totally creepy. A little goodbye push during a chopper flight over the Grand Canyon would be a contribution to the national welfare and sanity.

  34. ‘Jack Dorsey, Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, Sundar Pichai—that’s the CEO of Google—Jeff Zucker, Rachel Maddow, Chris Hayes, Don Lemon, Bill de Blasio, Dean Baquet, Jay Inslee, Lindsey Graham, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, … ‘

    Perhaps it’s coincidental, but you seem to have made an extraordinary effort to avoid choosing too many Jews: of the fourteen figures you’ve named, I think only three are Jewish.

    Of course Jews are only 2% of the population, and so logically, there’s no reason any of a set of fourteen names should be Jewish — but given the prominence of Jews among the forces of Darkness and Evil, surely it must have required a conscious effort to avoid picking more than three for your list? After all, 40% or so of America’s billionaires are Jewish, about 90% of all Neo-Cons are, I assume about half the prominent advocates of ‘come one come all’ immigration are, and Jews dominate big media.

    So three out of fourteen? I think you tried to hold the count down.

    • Agree: Druid
  35. @DB Cooper

    Fighting wars, making revolutions, and consolidating revolutionary gains has always been a murderous affair.

    That the author produced three examples of Mao’s ruthlessness under these circumstances and I pointed out that, seen in context, they demonstrate the opposite.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  36. @Realist

    Yeah, i noticed derb left out plenty of republicans who belong on the list. Start with all the Bushes, Mitch McConnell and his traitorous wife, Jared Kushner, and all the Republican bankers, financiers, “energy” profiteers, medical profiteers, and military contractor profiteers, who pillage the American people with inflated prices, foreign labor to undercut their bargaining power and lower their wages — right along with their plutocrat buddies calling themselves the “opposing” party, the dems.

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Kolya Krassotkin
  37. @Rahan

    That may be worth a shot. But it has a chance of working only if immigration into the usa is stopped and the new non-urban kinda-still-American States have the absolute right to exclude people from the other States from entering, let alone settling there.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  38. Laughing.

    Some agreement. I use to teach my students or discuss with my students the nature of violent revolution. I am not sure how many understood that even as college students they were among the elite and would be somewhere in that line of succession for removal.

    I would explain that after me, they come next. And understanding that framing. I hate to be the barer of bad news, but you won’t ave to pay for a front seat — you too will have a view from the block.

  39. @obwandiyag

    As the white (and hispanic) middle class gets ground down into poverty while being harassed, mocked, and attacked by the pets of the System, they will have no qualms about eliminating both your bruthas and the plutocrats.

  40. @neutral

    if BLM started noticing jews they would be finished in days.

    Almost correct:

    If BLM started noticing wealthy and powerful jews they would be finished in days.

    They are dumb enough to try it, too….

  41. @Godfree Roberts

    That the author produced three examples of Mao’s ruthlessness under these circumstances and I pointed out that, seen in context, they demonstrate the opposite.

    Mao is the worst traitor China ever produced. He adopted a crap ideology from the intellectual sewers of the West, which few took seriously then and none do now. He used it to trash his country and her people and her patrimony.

    Here he is, lined up alongside the 💩 of the West:

    We spit on him because we spit on them.

  42. @RadicalCenter

    …and the new non-urban kinda-still-American States have the absolute right to exclude people from the other States from entering, let alone settling there.

    From Wikipedia via Syonredux on the Judah P Benjamin post:

    The Illinois’ Constitution of 1848 specifically banned slavery, section 16 of its Declaration of Rights specifying, “There shall be neither slavery nor involuntary servitude in the State, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted.” Nevertheless, subsequent legislation led to one of the most restrictive Black Code systems in the nation until the American Civil War. The Illinois Black Code of 1853 prohibited any Black persons from outside of the state from staying in the state for more than ten days, subjecting Black emigrants who remain beyond the ten days to arrest, detention, a $50 fine, or deportation.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/has-judah-p-benjamin-been-canceled-or-memory-holed/#comment-3979604

    The Suckers knew that no state with appreciable numbers of Africans had ever amounted to anything.

    • Thanks: RadicalCenter
  43. @Exile

    Mark Zuckerberg belongs to a very influential ethnic group of “establishment parasites” – those J-things you never name.

    If you can’t name them, you can’t fight them. I used to believe otherwise, fairly recently in fact.

    Derb accepts Darwinism as fact, so naturally he’d be sympathetic to the Anglo-Zionist cabal of the ACLU and their frontman Clarence Darrow, rather than William Jennings Bryan’s fight to keep “teachers” promoting it barred from the schools.

  44. fish says:
    @DB Cooper

    C’mon…..Dances with China 🇨🇳 has to fill his bowl like every other li, Wong, and Quang.

    Why must you call him on his bullshit?

  45. @Reg Cæsar

    I give him some credit for music trivia though, Reg:

  46. Derer says:
    @Exile

    Facebook is a copy of the earlier social site Hi5…huge reward for a theft. Majority of rich people’s journey to richness is never by hard work but by being close to the money supply “machine”.

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  47. @Reg Cæsar

    The simple facts of Mao’s career seem incredible: in a vast land of 400 million people, at age 28, with a dozen others, to found a party and in the next fifty years to win power, organize, and remold the people and reshape the land–history records no greater achievement. Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, all the kings of Europe, Napoleon, Bismarck, Lenin–no predecessor can equal Mao Tse-tung’s scope of accomplishment, for no other country was ever so ancient and so big as China. Indeed Mao’s achievement is almost beyond our comprehension – John King Fairbank, The United States and China.

    What have you done for your fellow man?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Reg Cæsar
  48. @RadicalCenter

    No they will not, you idiot. And white middle-class people never use the word “plutocrat.” They don’t know what it means and anyhow only faggots use it.

    They will not ever ever ever attack their heroes, the filthy rich. Ever. Ever. Because all of them are temporarily-embarrassed billionaires. Even when they’re living in cardboard boxes.

    And if you think the blacks and the rich are the same thing, just because they happen to be useful to them at the present juncture, jeez are you a tool

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  49. @Godfree Roberts

    ‘The simple facts of Mao’s career seem incredible: in a vast land of 400 million people, at age 28, with a dozen others, to found a party and in the next fifty years to win power, organize, and remold the people and reshape the land–history records no greater achievement. Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, all the kings of Europe, Napoleon, Bismarck, Lenin–no predecessor can equal Mao Tse-tung’s scope of accomplishment, for no other country was ever so ancient and so big as China. Indeed Mao’s achievement is almost beyond our comprehension – John King Fairbank, The United States and China.’

    So…comparing Mao to Hitler, Stalin, Genghis Khan, and Attila the Hun, where would you rank him?

  50. @Achmed E. Newman

    The Dustin Hoffman STRAW DOGS film had this as an underlying theme. The American mathematician flees the draft with a foreign exchange student he has married quickly to get English citizenship. He ends up in her hick town in her Dad’s old farm.

    Beneath it all, the local sons of the soil hate Hoffman because he has fled the US to leave the squirming masses of proles to their own miseries while kicking back at a farm in the UK. The proles recognize a transnational globalist.

    But Hoffman’s character was not rich. He could not move to the mansion in Auckland with 500 security bodyguards.

    Point is, the plutocrats won’t hang around. The proles always think they will.

    Opportunists who become wealthy have a mindset to begin with. They had no character, no loyalty, screwed everyone they ever met-Jobs did it, Zuckenberg did it, Madoff did it.

    They cheated at a poker game and then left the casino quickly while the rest of the players despaired the cards they were dealt.

    These kind of people don’t stick around.

    Their jet airplane will fly up high. Plutocrats will have no concern for the squirming masses of proles and peasants left behind…they’ll be more concerned with spilling their 1000 dollar a bottle champagne while the stewardess is giving them a BJ during takeoff of their private jet.

    Working class sons of the soil don’t travel as kids. Except maybe on public school funded trips or on a camping trip somewhere. They’re loyalties are rooted in communities they assume people fight and die for. They grow up in a community and their concept of geography is 50 miles.

    The wealthy grown up overseas. They attend boarding schools in Paris, spend summers at Chateau’s in the South of France their family owns and have business interests in other countries. Their network is transnational.

    They cannot conceive of what it is like to be trapped in some city with no money and no opportunity to leave.

    Its not just money but a mindset. They’re like the guy who puts their drinks on someone else’s bill and then moves along at the bar.

  51. @RadicalCenter

    Sadly, obwandyag is right and you are wrong.

    • Agree: dfordoom
    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  52. @Colin Wright

    You be the judge.

    During Mao’s 25 postwar years, under crushing embargoes on finance, food, agricultural and scientific equipment and international participation, Mao outgrew America’s booming economy by 100%, ended famines; doubled China’s population from 542 million to 956 million; doubled life expectancy; doubled caloric intake; quintupled GDP; quadrupled literacy; increased grain production three hundred percent; increased gross industrial output forty-fold; increased heavy industry ninety-fold; increased rail lineage 266 percent; increased passenger train traffic from 102,970,000 passengers to 814,910,000.; increased rail freight tonnage two thousand percent; increased the road network one thousand percent; increased steel production from zero to thirty-five MMT/year; increased industry’s contribution to China’s net material product from twenty-three percent to fifty-four percent; put satellites into orbit; developed the atomic bomb and the hydrogen bomb faster than anyone in history–and left China debt-free and independent.

    According to data provided by the World Bank, expressed at constant prices (base 1980) and in ten-year averages, China’s economic growth rate was 6.8 percent between 1970 and 1979, i.e., more than double that of the United States during the same period (3.2 percent, also at 1980 constant prices).

    Furthermore, according to the official GDP series published by China’s National Bureau of Statistics (NBS) since its creation in 1952 up until today, the growth rate of China’s GDP averaged 8.3 percent annually from 1952 to 2015, with a strong 6.3 percent between 1952 and 1978 and an even stronger 9.9 percent between 1979 and 2015.

    These percentages are expressed at constant prices in base 1952 and standardized to take into account the statistical breaks that marked the accounting transition from the Material Product System (MPS) to the more “modern” System of National Accounts (SNA).5 Nevertheless, if we exclude the very first years of the People’s Republic from 1952 to 1962—i.e., between the completion of the unification of the continental territory and the period of the break with the Soviet Union—there is a recorded average of 8.2 percent per annum GDP growth rate in the period of 1963–78, reflecting very rapid growth even during the Cultural Revolution.the average growth rates of the capital stock that we called “productive” (including equipment, machinery, tools, industrial buildings, and facilities, but not residential buildings and their land value) showed very little difference over the two subperiods of 1952–78 and 1979–2015: 9.7 percent for the first subperiod and 10.9 percent for the second.

    If we retain a larger productive capital stock, including the inventories, which are important for calculating the rotation rate of circulating capital, we see that the average rhythm of accumulation of such a stock was slightly higher between 1952 and 1978 (10.41 percent) than between 1979 and 2015 (10.39 percent). Moreover, if we select an even larger capital stock to also include the constructed residential buildings and their land, not directly productive components, the growth rate of this very large capital stock continued to be high, averaging 9.1 percent from 1952 to 1978 compared to 10.9 percent from 1979 to 2015. It is, therefore, quite clear that the capital accumulation effort is not a recent phenomenon, but that it has been continuously decided and planned by the Chinese authorities over the past six decades.

    It is this sustained effort of accumulation, enabled in particular by surplus transfers from rural areas, that explains the success of industrialization and, to a large extent, the robust rate of GDP growth.

    Development Indicators (Washington, DC: World Bank, various years) databank.worldbank.org. –The Enigma of China’s Growth. Zhiming Long and Rémy Herrera. Monthly Review, Dec 1, 2018; China Statistical Yearbook (Beijing: National Bureau of Statistics of China, various years), http://stats.gov.cn/english.%5D
    https://monthlyreview.org/2018/12/01/the-enigma-of-chinas-growth/

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  53. Druid says:

    Derbyshire doesn’t want it pure because he has an Asian wife. Self-serving!

  54. Realist says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Yes, all minions of the Deep State.

  55. @Jeff Stryker

    We saw this in South Africa. The upper class all moved to Australia. The Boer farmers and bus drivers were all left to watch the rand collapse and see their elderly mother raped while the wealthy hauled ass to UK, Australia, Canada.

    A good example is billionaire Mark Shuttleworth who is also behind Ubuntu Linux.

    He still holds South African citizenship but lives on the Isle of Man far away from the violent streets of Johannesburg and the third world ‘enrichment’ of London.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  56. SMK says: • Website
    @swamped

    And Lawrence O’Donnell, Joy Behar, Whoopie Goldberg, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, George W. Bush, Rich Lowry, David French, Jennifer Rubin, Mitt Romney, Jorge Ramos, Cornel West, Michael Eric Dyson, and on and on and on, ad nauseam. In my fantasy, since John McCain is dead and can’t be resurrected, little Billy Kristol, David From, Max Boot, and Rick Wilson would be the last to face execution.

    Yes, Rick Wilson, the verminous little maggot, the vilest of the vile, the most execrable and deranged of all the execrable and deranged Trump haters. Once an obscure Republican consultant, a Bushite hack no one had ever heard of outside of narrow Republicn circles, he’s now famous, thanks to CNN and MSNBC, where he joins his fellow Trump-hating “conservative” Republican (Kristol, Boot, Frum, Rubin, et. al) and their leftist brothers and sisters in excoriating and ridiculing Trump and his supporters. (To Wilson, Trump and those who voted for him are too stupid to find the Ukraine on a map and are rubes and “racists” with “10 teeth” and the like. A third-grader with an IQ os 87 could tell funnier jokes.) His pathological and obsessive and deranged hatred of Trump has rendered him so stupid and obtuse that he doesn’t realize that he’s insulting 85-90% of more of the people who voted for his beloved George W. Bush, tragically resulting in his disastrous presidency, his beloved John McCain (“Trump isn’t fit to lick John McCain boots, his beloved Mitt Romney, and who would have voted for his beloved Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio has they won the 2016 Republican nomination. If so, Hillary Clinton would be president.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
  57. SMK says: • Website
    @swamped

    How did Derb and you and I forget to mention George Soros, Bill Clinton, Eric Holder, “black lives matter” and “antifa” terrorists, and James Comey, John Brennan, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strok, and all those guilty of engaging in a conspiracy and witch-hunt and attempted coup to subvert democracy and the will of 60 millions voters by impeaching Trump and overturning the results of a presidential election. To say nothing of all the leftists and “cucks” who are destroying the UK and the nations of Western Europe by supporting and celebrating an invasion of tens of millions of Muslims and black Africans and their offspring.

    I wouldn’t execute them but rather confiscate all their ill-begotten wealth and send them, impoverished and powerless, to Haiti and sub-Saharan African, Mexico and Central American, and the Muslim countries of North Africa and the Middle-East, along with all or most of the blacks and Mestizos-Amerindians, and nearly all of the Muslims, well over a 100 million of them in the United States, Canada, Australian, and the UK and Western Europe. Nothing less than that will save whites and western civilization.

    • Replies: @Druid
    , @SMK
  58. Druid says:
    @SMK

    All the Muslims but you don’t mention on Jew! You’re a lying turd of obfuscation. Eff off!

  59. SMK says: • Website
    @SMK

    Bill Kristol, David Frum, Max Boot, Jennifer Rubin, and George Soros are all Jewish, and the white leftists I detest and denounce are disproportionately Jewish, you despicable lunatic and ignoramus.

  60. @RadicalCenter

    I increasingly think of, as an example of bipartisanship, the Democrat and Republican party leadership sharing a tumbril ride and then together, on the scaffold, a last cigarette.

    (To celebrate the occasion Nadler, Pelosi and Schumer could wear their brand-new Kinte cloth stoles.)

  61. @Godfree Roberts

    What have you done for your fellow man?

    “What have you done [to] your fellow man?”

    我为你修理了

  62. @Colin Wright

    So…comparing Mao to Hitler, Stalin, Genghis Khan, and Attila the Hun, where would you rank him?

    Derb once made the important point that Lenin beat them all, Hitler included, per annum. I can’t find the piece itself; anyone know if it was in Unz, Taki, or elsewhere?

    Unz评论德比郡

  63. vox4non says:

    The use of race is a distraction. It was and has always been the case of the haves versus the have-nots.

  64. @Amerimutt Golems

    South African whites shared a culture and genes (Boers at least) and a heritage.

    The divisions were not as vast as those in America.

    And yet the wealthy South Africans still fled as fast as they could leaving the less wealthy Boers to Mandela’s rule to shuffle around shanty towns in abject poverty and watch their elderly mother raped.

    The white-collar middle-class South Africans who made it to Western Australia-a beachhead landing across the Indian Ocean-felt a little regret at abandoning their poorer brethren.

    Just as my communications with Stanley the Polish guy in Flint trapped in a house worth nothing in an internal third world country made me shudder. Could have happened to me. I could have gotten some Catholic girl pregnant and dropped out of college to marry her and been trapped in a bad part of Southeast Michigan…but it didn’t happen and all I care about is being somewhere else.

    Like the middle-class white collar South Africans who made it to Australia.

    The rich South Africans felt nothing at all.

    No matter, if you are on the Titanic and it sinking your mind is on your own survival. Whether you are a run-of-the-mill South African engineer who goes to Perth or you are a millionaire who buys an island all you are thinking about is keeping AIDS-infected black gangs from raping your daughter and mother while the value of the rand disintegrates.

    Nor did the middle-class in Detroit or Baltimore or other cities stop to consider the uneducated lumpen proles who would not read the real estate papers and would not sell their house in time and would be trapped somewhere life Flint with a house they could not give away.

    And this will apply to the ruling elite oligarchy.

    Zuckenberg and others have passports to countries the poor white proles who always bear the brunt of cultural and socioeconomic changes cannot even find on the map. They have no idea where Auckland is. They have never left the state. They’re spatial thinking is microscopic in comparison to the one percent who fly to Tokyo for the weekend to eat sushi.

    These people will simply board their private jets and roar off to their chateau in the South of France while the peasants are abandoned like the working class Boers in South Africa whose 14 year old daughters became prostitutes in the shanty towns to survive.

    Quite foolishly, the proles and hicks believe the one percent are patriotic and love their country. They don’t. They’ll move along faster than some buy who put his drinks at the bar on some barfighter’s bill.

    There is a reason the one percent have three or four passports.

    As for the intrinsic value of US property, nobody is sweeping up Flint or Detroit.

    Whites in America foolishly believe the government cares. Even more foolishly, they believe someone like Zuckenberg cares.

    The ruling elite will care far more about whether or not their 1000 champagne spills during take off in their private jet while the stewardess is giving them a blast-off BJ as they get the hell out of a decomposing country on their way to the mansion in Auckland or Cannes.

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  65. @obwandiyag

    Enjoy your argument with whoever said the things you attribute to me.

    Of course africans do NOT overlap substantially with the super-rich in the USA, Europe, or elsewhere. I never said otherwise. Even many of the overrated Africans who have achieved material success in the USA have done so partly based on government, corporate, and university favoritism based on their race.

    I agree that non-elites who still trust or look up to the plutocratic elites, need to wake up and grow up. My observation is that many non-elites who consider themselves “conservative” or formerly “libertarian” have lost their naivete and become appropriately cyncial, bitter, angry.

    More and more of them are ready to take action to confiscate the ill-gotten wealth of the elites who rule us and use your dimwitted brethren to attack us and destabilize our society. Is it enough yet? Hope so, but don’t know.

    In closing, I wonder about someone who randomly calls someone else a “faggot” for no particular reason. Enjoy yourself.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  66. @but an humble craftsman

    He may be right or he may not, but either way he is a needlessly rude, insecure asshole, as well as yet another African who is a threat to us.

    People like you and I need to talk to our friends and family and shake them out of any lingering trust, respect or admiration they have for the super-rich elites. I do all the time, with some success.

  67. @RadicalCenter

    Its pretty typical of the Nigerian to lean Left and dislike the middle-class with their bourgeois aspirations.

    They’re DNC Leftists.

    But let me add that no other white group exploited unions and Leftist organizations more than you Italians.

    “That thing of yours” was the one that borrowed money from unions to build casinos.

    Blacks cannot be organized about it.

    But the Sicilians at the top of the LCN food chain are experts at union shakedowns and even elected (And maybe assassinated Kennedy).

    As for the Obi the Nigerians “faggot” stuff this is simply a reflection that blacks cannot stay with the Democrat narrative even though they depend upon. Such as wholly embracing homosexuality, which most of them abhor.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  68. And remember who followed the revolutionaries? Yep! Le Deluge himself…Napoleone di Buonaparte–proving that even the dagos could produce at least one great general.

  69. @Jeff Stryker

    South African whites shared a culture and genes (Boers at least) and a heritage.

    I think you’re missing a key dichotomy in the Afrikaaner community: the Boere|Kugel divide.

    A very large proportion of the South African immigrants to Australia are (((kugels))); they’re qualitatively very different from the Jaapies that went to England, who were more out-and-out Boere.

    Boere Afrikaaners had a ‘term of endearment‘ for Afrikaans Jews (particularly Ashkenazi women): they call them “Kugels”(German for ‘bullet’ – do not believe the retconn nonsense that the nickname is from the Yiddish for ‘ball’ or the Dutch pudding). The term has softened a lot since the late 1990s, and nowadays has a connotation similat to the US and Australian ‘JAP’ (Jewish [Australian|American|Afrikaaner] Princess’) – a tasteless she-kike with an unmerited high opinion of herself.

    The difference between Australian (kugel) Afrikaaners and Pommie (Jaapie) Afrikaners is best examplified by two clips.

    Here’s a quite clever (Australian) example of two kugels in a coffee shop (“Tani and Shani”)…

    Note their use of Kugelisms (e.g., “just now” meaning some unspecified time in the future; “now now” meaning imminently; “lekker” meaning “fine, nice, appropriate” etc)

    And here’s Harry Enfield as ‘Pik’ (an archetypical Jaapie)… no kugelisms, but funny as fuck.

    The Boer and the Kugels share very little, except an antipathy for each other (when the government went after AWB leader Eugène Terre’Blanche, one part of their strategy was to establish a rumour that he was Jewish: it almost cost him his life).

    The other divide concerns what type of capital different whites owned.

    Most of the capital flight from Sarth Effrika started in the mid-1960s when British South Africans started to sniff the wind. They had all the finance capital (and all the wealth networks and access to global credit markets).

    The Kugels were similar to the Brits in that they had finance capital (and urban real estate), but were less wealthy overall, and oddly were not very well connected to European finance capitals. They took another 15 years to get their shit together, and had a hard time getting decent valuations for the things they sold to fund their exodus.

    To this day they mewl and puke that the Brits got out so early and so easily.

    The ‘common or garden’ Boere Afrikaaners had rural land (if anything) – which is not a very portable store of wealth (lol).

    Besides, when everyone’s heading to the exits, the market is ‘offer only’ (i.e., there is no demand).

    .

    The British South Africans had nothing in common with the Afrikaaners – Boere or Kugel; most British South Africans (The Lovely’s father included) think that apartheid was implemented to mollify Afrikaaners about the gap between themselves and the Brits.

    Generally, the way to tell a British South African from an Afrikaaner is that the Brits have a much more mellifluous accent (because they refuse to speak Afrikaans, even though they were often forced to at school) and they are generally prettier (although the hot Afrikaaners are insanely attractive).

  70. @Jeff Stryker

    Still unable to discern the difference between sicilians and italians, my foreign “American” friend, eh? And still dumb enough to believe, or rude enough to pretend to believe, that Mafia have anything to do with 99% of italians in this country.

    But we look forward to your trenchant commentaries on this “America” that you’ve read so much about.

    So glad we seem to agree, though, on the undesirability of importing Nigerians.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  71. @RadicalCenter

    What nationality do you believe I am?

    I wish I wasn’t an American from Southeast Michigan. Its the anus of the world. Had I been born Australian, I’d be kicking back down there without a worry in the world about ghetto blacks, Cholos, whiggers, redneck meth heads tweaker trailer trash etc.

    I don’t even know if the Italian-American mafia is still even around. A bunch of overweight middle-aged men scarfing down pizza at a sausage store or get loaded everyday at the Bing look like angels compared to MS-13 and Mexican cartels. When one reads that a Central American Indian has chopped a high school girl’s head off with a machete in Long Island, one misses the days of Tony and his ilk getting lap dances in the Bing.

    One thing about watching the COBRA KAI series here in Asia, after 21 years overseas and 30 odd since I saw the KARATE KID, is how assimilated Italians are. COBRA KAI itself actually points this out when the first scene we see with Daniel Larusso is at the country club where he was once humiliated rolling deep in money and prestige. Johnny, the once well-heeled WASP, is now a beleaguered Anglo redneck. He is the handyman being treated with disdain by the Korean kid dating LaRusso’s daughter….Its just a television show, I know, but in the last 35 years even Moorish-looking Sicilian kids have integrated.

    A movie like RHINESTONE where Stallone moved to Tennessee (Stallone is one of those Sicilians who looks outright Arab from some angles) and the local hillbillies ask him if he combs his hair with a pork chop would make no sense now, as the Italian and Anglo has blended in the past 30 years as have all the European races in America.

    Obi the Nigerian is fairly typical and his support of the Left is logical. He belongs to a group that is more fecund, will always produce more children from destitute teenagers and in general rely more on fiscal funds.

    This is a grotesque generalization, of course. But it would make sense for Obi to desire more redistribution of the wealth.

    And I’m not saying he is entirely wrong. The oligarchy or plutocrats or whatever we call the corporate titans of the 1% who have put half the US GDP in their pocket and will bolt off to New Zealand when the bill comes like some drunk whose been putting his drinks on others tabs at the bar moves along.

    At any rate, Italian-Americans are not really the US underclass. The US underclass is in the Bible Belt and evangelical Protestant. Maybe someone can tell me why evangelical protestants are always poor and their regions worse than those of the East Coast where the Jews, Irish and Italians live.

    Posters here rhapsodize about the powers of Evangelicalism but their regions are poor, squalid and decrepit and not the East Coast.

    Why the squalor and poverty among Anglo-Saxons in the US interior and not Jews in Scarsdale, New York? Why are Jewish neighborhoods generally wealthy and well-kept? Why is Beverly Hills wealthier than East Los Angeles?

    I wish I were from Australia and was not born in Southeast Michigan. Or a New Zealander. Or even a Singaporean. You’ll never see a place like Flint in these places. You’ll never see the absolute poverty of the US where homeless whites are doing a turd on a sidewalk outside their tent in every major city.

    You don’t see that sort of poverty in Australia or Singapore. You see it in America. And it isn’t black, either. It is white.

    Somehow, blacks manage to get more money from the government. It is kind of understandable that Obi wants the government to force the wealthy to redistribute the wealth.

    I’m not saying Australia is perfect, but it is not the inane horrorshow of the US. You won’t walk down the street in Sydney and more homeless than Mumbai.

    The US is inane. It defies comprehension. It has gotten more inane the last 20 years since Bush was elected for some reason. It was not great in the 90’s but went seriously downhill in the 2000s.

    It is much better to be middle class or working class in Australia. Or New Zealand. Or Singapore.

  72. @Daniel H

    One of the greatest commercials ever.

  73. dfordoom says: • Website
    @obwandiyag

    For your information, the white middle-class loves rich people. Rich people are their friends. They want to nuzzle their hinder-parts with utmost abandon.

    Correct.

    And the white middle-class is totally Woke.

    Unfortunately the Right, and especially the far right, lives in a world of comforting fantasies. They still believe there’s a Silent Majority out there who are going to re-elect Reagan.

  74. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Hartnell

    The Zoomers are interesting however. I wouldn’t call them nationalists but they are becoming more sceptical or even critical of the system.

    I wouldn’t put any faith at all in the Zoomers. Indoctrination works and they’re the most heavily indoctrinated generation in history.

    If they become more sceptical or critical of the system they’ll blame fascism and institutional racism and sexism and homophobia. They’ll join antifa.

  75. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Godfree Roberts

    they’ll find that Mao was strongly averse to killing even bitter enemies.

    Yep. In fact Mao was much too forgiving of his political enemies, which is why China is now a capitalist country. Had Mao been the bloodthirsty tyrant of right-wing fantasies then he would have destroyed the capitalist roaders. In fact he allowed them to survive and they destroyed the Maoist state.

    Whether one thinks that the destruction of Maoism was a good or a bad thing is a matter of perception, but from the Maoist point of view Mao was much too indulgent of the people who wanted to destroy his vision of a communist China.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @godfree roberts
  76. Ron Unz says:
    @dfordoom

    Whether one thinks that the destruction of Maoism was a good or a bad thing is a matter of perception, but from the Maoist point of view Mao was much too indulgent of the people who wanted to destroy his vision of a communist China.

    Well, I think Mao was a strong nationalist, and one reason he became a Communist was that he believed Communism was the best means of ending China’s misery and restoring its place in the world. So despite ideological differences, I’d suspect he’d be quite pleased—and perhaps even amazed—about where things now stood.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/chinas-rise-americas-fall/

    In that regard, there was a very funny joke going around Chinese social media a couple of years ago about Chairman Mao coming back to life and asking all sorts of questions about the modern world:

    • LOL: vox4non
  77. @dfordoom

    Mao wan’t averse to capitalism by any means. He was averse to what Polanyi characterized as running society as an adjunct to the market:

    Economic autarchy, finally, is only an accessory trait of an existing closed group.

    The market pattern, on the other hand, being related to a peculiar motive of its own, the motive of truck or barter, is capable of creating a specific institution, namely, the market.

    Ultimately, that is why the control of the economic system by the market is of overwhelming consequence to the whole organization of society: it means no less than the running of society as an adjunct to the market.

    Instead of economy being embedded in social relations, social relations are embedded in the economic system. The vital importance of the economic factor to the existence of society precludes any other result. For once the economic system is organized in separate institutions, based on specific motives and conferring a special status, society must be shaped in such a manner as to allow that system to function according to its own laws.

    This is the meaning of the familiar assertion that a market economy can function only in a market society. The step which makes isolated markets into a market economy, regulated markets into a self-regulating market, is indeed crucial.

    –Karl Polanyi, The Great Transformation

    Mao wrote [1] President Roosevelt a plea he repeated to Truman and Eisenhower,

    China must industrialize. This can only be done by free enterprise. Chinese and American interests fit together, economically and politically. America need not fear that we will not be co-operative. We cannot risk any conflict.

    All ignored his requests for foreign capital[2] because, as he observed,

    Some people refuse to understand why the Chinese Communists do not fear capitalism but, on the contrary, develop it as much as possible. Our answer is simple: we have to replace foreign imperialist and native feudalist oppression with capitalist development because that is the inevitable course of our economy and because both the capitalist class and the proletariat benefit. What we don’t need is not native capitalism but foreign imperialism and native feudalism. On the contrary, our capitalism is indeed too little..Enormous capital is required to develop industry. Where will it come from? It can only come from two sources: the capital accumulated by the Chinese people themselves and from foreign loans, and we must welcome all foreign investments as long as they obey the laws of China and are advantageous to our economy.

    Critics wishing to characterize Mao as an extremist or isolationist overlook this very pragmatic side of him, forgetting that, like his father, he was a gifted businessman and, not incidentally, the founder of the world’s biggest, most profitable bank.

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    [1] Mission to Yenan: American Liaison with the Chinese Communists, 1944-1947 by Carolle J. Carter
    [2] Portrait of a Revolutionary. Robert Payne. Abelard-Schuman. 1950.Here’s the Great Helmsman hisself on the subject:

  78. By middle class whites, I take it the Derb means middle-income whites, like skilled manual workers. Most upper-middle class whites (doctors, lawyers, civil servants etc) are on board with the woke agenda (or at least pretend to be).

    The anti white, anti-western agenda itself has flourished over the last thirty years or so because the West has had no serious external threats. However, thanks to a powerful and nationalistic China and the return of pandemics (after a 52 year absence) that is beginning to change. Hating your own culture works out okay if your livelihood isn’t affected. But once foreign nations start using that self-hatred to undermine your economy and national security, or loose immigration policy can spread deadly viruses, killing woke and deplorable alike, then you need to start defending your own side again.

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