It’s very handy to have well-known phrases for social phenomena. A well-crafted phrase can clarify our thinking about a phenomenon, help us see it as what it truly is.
A couple of the best such phrases to emerge in recent years are “virtue signalling” (except that we seem unable to agree on how to spell “signalling,” one “l” or two) and “narrative collapse.”
For readers who’ve just wakened from a Rip Van Winkle-style twenty-year sleep, virtue signalling is a species of what used to be called “cheap grace,” where you raise your moral standing in your peer groups by cost-free speech or actions. Narrative collapse is what happens at that point in the news cycle when the gentle black giant or winsome black teenager who suffered some misfortune at the hands of a white person turns out to be a low-life thug with a drug habit and a rap sheet.
Watching this week’s clip of the lady in Seattle going into high hysterics after being confronted by a black guy over some kind of trivial negative encounter, I’m thinking we need a phrase for this. It is, after all, looking to be a thing.
Clip: “Karen! You’re not going to sit there and flip me off …” etc, etc.
The business of Amy Cooper and her dog in New York City’s Central Park four weeks ago was very similar. That was the episode that introduced the general public to the tag “Karen,” indicating a white woman asserting her white privilege. So perhaps the phrase we’re seeking here is something like “Karen abuse” or “Karen shaming.”
These two incidents—that one in New York and this one in Seattle—are, I would guess, the tip of a very big iceberg. I can recall from private conversations across many decades, hearing stories from white women who have felt intimidated to the point of high nervousness, if not actually shrieking hysteria, by the behavior of black men in a one-on-one encounter.
In some of these episodes, as I’ve heard about them, the black guy is not at fault in any way. An office colleague, a young white female New Yorker of properly liberal sensibilities, once confessed to me that if she was alone in an elevator, and a large black guy got in, and the two of them rode a few floors together, she felt highly uncomfortable.
“What,” I asked her, “in a way you wouldn’t feel if it was a small Asian guy?” Yes, she admitted.
She was obviously wracked with guilt about what she had just confessed. Just as obviously, there is not necessarily any fault here on the part of the black guy.
You have to suspect, though, that blacks know about this; and that black men of a certain temperament have malicious fun with it. With the advent of the smartphone and the ability to make video recordings and post them, the temptation to stage a Karen-shaming incident must, to a certain personality type, be irresistible.
There is also the element of revenge. Black Americans are taught in our schools and colleges to be angry about slavery and Jim Crow. It’s not surprising that some blacks, as adults, are looking for revenge against Whitey. (What’s surprising is that most blacks aren’t.)
White kids, undergoing that same education, are taught that they share responsibility somehow for all that cruelty and oppression, so a corresponging proportion of them arrive in adult life loaded with racial guilt.
The guilt is mixed with fear, though. Most whites, by the time they arrive at adulthood, know the Great Unmentionable of social life in our country: that blacks are, in the statistical generality, a whole order of magnitude more violent and dangerous than other races.
And there, with smartphone in hand, you have the ingredients for a perfect Karen-shaming.
Locate a Karen; get alone with her; pick a quarrel, all the while maintaining a cool middle-class non-ghetto demeanor with just the merest slight seasoning of aggression; press the quarrel to the point where her personality disintegrates; force her to a virtue-signalling punch line if possible—the Seattle lady started yelling that she has a black husband, although whether she actually does or not, I haven’t been able to ascertain — then post the whole thing on social media. Hey, it’s fun!
With any luck, the Karen will be identified and fired from her job—that’s the real prize, the cherry on the revenge cookie. Even if she doesn’t get fired, though, you’ve Karen-shamed her: made her look like a hysterical nitwit — and, best of all, a racist!—to millions of viewers. How sweet it is!
“I have a black husband!” Boy, I may use this one, if they get me on camera calling someone a bad n-word or something. What can they say to that? It’s like a rainbow-colored Monopoly Get-Out-of_Jail-for Free card.
There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery. Then (I) look around and see someone white and feel relieved.
Articles like this define the difference between White Trashionalism and mainstream, pro-Trump Republicanism.
A pro-Trump Republican website like Instapundit is all-in on the Karen meme :
Derbyshire would have us believe that all sorts of women who love to boss others around, and speak to the manager, etc. are all innocent. Particularly when the primary victims of Karens are white men.
John Derbyshire left National Review despite being a whiteknight just like them. The only difference is that Derbyshire has a problem if a black man calls a bossy, high-maintenance woman a Karen, while NRO has a problem if a white man does it. Both are just 20th-century cuckservatives.
It seems that Karens mostly assault other white people, particularly younger white women who are service workers :
4 Million Views!
Good. Let the “Karen shaming” happen more frequently. White women are the biggest supporters of progressivism and black victim mentality. More attacks from those they try to align themselves with will perhaps finally wake them up and see blacks for what they really are.
Absolutely absurd story.
It’s fucking stupid like all the fucking shit. “Karen” means “old women,” because nobody names their children Karen anymore, and, as everyone knows, old women are bad.
When I think of Karens, I think of fanatically anti-smoking women (who think one puff of smoke ten feet away is mass murder and let you know about it).
These days a Karen will get hysterical at anyone not wearing a mask.
So, if you want to find a real Karen light a big cigar in a public place, and wait to see who starts screaming hysterically at you!
‘…With any luck, the Karen will be identified and fired from her job—that’s the real prize, the cherry on the revenge cookie. Even if she doesn’t get fired, though, you’ve Karen-shamed her: made her look like a hysterical nitwit — and, best of all, a racist!—to millions of viewers. How sweet it is!’
The sadness of this is the sheer cruelty of it.
Some twenty-odd years ago, I ran around the San Francisco Bay Area with my truck, making a decent if not spectacular living as a mover. At some point — as a means of defying the general political milieu, I suppose — I stuck a Confederate flag bumper sticker on the truck.
…and wore it in good health for some time, maybe six months. The thing is, I relied mainly on repeat customers, and several of them were black. None of them ever said anything, but one day I did have the thought, ‘that flag must bug them.’
And they were perfectly nice people. So I took the flag off…even though nobody had ever said anything, and I had no need at all for more business.
It’s just wrong to hurt people for no good reason.
I don’t actually want to have this race war we’re headed for. It’s not really necessary, and it certainly wasn’t my idea. However, if people are going to insist on it, we can have it. I’m not going anywhere.
McLuhan’s aphorism comes to mind in the sense of how the size of information, presentation constraints, rewards and penalties, are highly effective programming tools in the weapons of mob psychology and manipulation. Adam Curtis produced a three part documentary around 10 years ago called “All Looked After By Machines of Loving Grace” which alluded to many of these issues. IQ v WQ (wisdom quotient) with the latter heading south – people being driven to self harm by bringing about their own destruction. Matthew Arnolds “Dover Beach” comes to mind.
As an aside: I remember saying to a very bright young man that I disagreed with McLuhan’s assertion and without hesitation he instantly replied “Jesus is” which in hindsight seems quite inspired because it recalls “I am the way, the truth and the life” (John 14:6), i.e. the medium is the message.
If that were true, wouldn’t one expect White women to be supporters of affirmative action?
‘Good. Let the “Karen shaming” happen more frequently. White women are the biggest supporters of progressivism and black victim mentality. More attacks from those they try to align themselves with will perhaps finally wake them up and see blacks for what they really are.’
I wouldn’t count on it. In my more misogynistic moments, I suspect that women tend to react to abuse and intimidation by attempting to appease the oppressor. At a minimum, that may be a strand in their psychology.
I kind of agree that it is sort of a good development. These “Nice White Ladies” (TM Whiskey) are the worst promoting anti-racism and other progressive stuff.
On the other hand, it’s a quite scary phenomenon that thanks to smartphones now apparently anyone can film you and harass you with impunity. I’ve heard even in Russia some guy was filmed and accused of racism by a black Obonga (no kidding, that was his name). What do you do in those cases, short of confiscating their phone and throwing it in the gutter?
Obwandiyag, O Nigerian Wise Man, your posts are always the dumbest. You just reinforce stereotypes.
Good, they need to hear it. Let Karen get pissed and maybe next time she will think twice about throwing White men under the bus so quickly. As we all know most Whites aren’t racist and that is a huge problem. We need Whites to hate again and calling White women ‘Karen’ is incredibly helpful because Karen isn’t used to being insulted like that. Normally my wife isn’t overjoyed when I say something ‘racist’ but its a much more accepting atmosphere now. This makes raising my son much easier, fun for the entire family!
“I have a black husband “Possible replies. ‘Is he allowed conjugal visits”. “My husband’s a parole officer what’s your husband’s name”. “Has he found a job yet?”
Karen just demands the upholding of the social contract she grew up in.
And that includes the lie Rassenschande is acceptable and a black hubby would count.
“It’s just wrong to hurt people for no good reason.”
Agreed — it really is that simple.
And the “good reason” should be a damn good reason….
Probabably a typo, but apt nevertheless.
There’s Right, and there’s right. This time, you’re right.
Pommie males have a masochistic streak, longing to be dominated by schoolmistress types (Maggie Thatcher’s husband!) Derb once proposed that a world run by women would be a good thing. A Huxleyan world much like what we have now – Idiot.
‘Silent generation’ types were the most vocal white knighters foisting female ‘equality’ on the young, because unlike previously, they now had smaller families often with daughters and no sons even. It was rubbish then, and even more now, as anyone who isn’t blind can see. Hope you all rot in hell for what you did to the younger generations who have to put up with the follow on for your ‘equality of the sexes’ crap of the past 50 plus years. No punishment would to too harsh for that.
Very good. There’s NOT going to be a race war because the vast majority of Americans go with this philosophy. I’ve never had a racist encounter one way or the other in my life and I’ve spent my life moving around and working with people of every different race, nationality and religion.
Your post wins my vote for the most rational statement of the day.
Having said that, I’ve lost every lifetime friend I’ve ever had because I oppose all this bureaucratic tyranny we’re seeing. Makes me quite clean feeling. Liberated.
Coalburner. Away with her.
White women endorsed slavery, which was the first affirmative action– i.e., giving job preference to un
Will “Cynthia” be the Karen of 2021?
I don’t give a damn if I hurt someone’s brainwashing.
The fact that you seem to agree that the confederate flag means “slavery” tells me you don’t really know what you are talking about.
They are through support of progressivism. The article listed states In general, women today are more educated and make up more of the workforce than ever before, in part because of affirmative action policies. . For the last forty years or so having a college degree has little to do with being educated. Women, now that are, unhappy with affirmative action are so because they were not favored by it.
Acceptance to college should be on merit alone…some sort of intelligence test…nothing else. Not race, sex or anything else. If that were the case the number of women and POC accepted to college would be significantly reduced. And if useless college courses were eliminated the numbers would drop precipitously.
Or try to resolve something with the HR department at ABC Corp. or XYZ “not-for-profit”. Or see the in-house 403(b) retirement plan female investment counselor next door to HR to talk about how your “conservatively invested” retirement plan has taken a mega-drubbing on Wall Street and you want to cash out or put it into precious metals.
There have been a lot of screaming women around lately.
I keep thinking: Maenads, the girl pals of Dionysius, from La Wik:
“they gird themselves with snakes and give suck to fawns and wolf cubs as if they were infants at the breast. Fire does not burn them. No weapon of iron can wound them, and the snakes harmlessly lick up the sweat from their heated cheeks. Fierce bulls fall to the ground, victims to numberless, tearing female hands, and sturdy trees are torn up by the roots with their combined efforts.”
Don’t mess with them, Derb.
Let’s face it. Black people suck.
When White people go out for peaceful protest, they can be attacked by BLM people just for exercising the First Amendment. Blacks consider physical intimidation and actual attacks just “part of the plan” to put Whitey in his place.
Suggestion: adopt Black techniques to defend yourselves: buy hammers, hammer holsters and a worksman’s belt and get all your fellow protestors to do the same.
Which is it?
You can’t have it both ways.
Either women oppose affirmative action on principle even though it benefits them, or it doesn’t benefit them and their achievements are based on merit.
I suspect, despite the unsubstantiated claim to the contrary, affirmative action doesn’t help White women much at all.
If it did, there would be a mismatch effect where they fail the bar exam or wash out of medical school with disproportionate frequency. That is not the case.
And this is a fine piece of logic:
White women oppose affirmative action but they’re still uber progressives because reasons I can’t be bothered to list, so they support affirmative action indirectly. Or something.
No, many of them still believe they are victims of gender inequality, why would they concede extra rights to an alternative victim group 50% of which are male?
An office colleague, a young white female New Yorker of properly liberal sensibilities, once confessed to me that if she was alone in an elevator, and a large black guy got in, and the two of them rode a few floors together, she felt highly uncomfortable.
Our dear, departed mayor Ed Koch used to tell a story, before he was mayor, before he was congressman, from a time in the 60s, he entered an elevator and a young black man entered after him, the doors closed and the young black man sensed Koch’s nervousness. The young black man said to Koch, “Don’t worry I won’t mug you……..but my brother would.”
Because they believe it is necessary to correct for sex discrimination, unless you have evidence that they support sex-based but not race-based affirmative action.
In any event, this is an interesting take. Here you concede that White women are not in fact teaming up with POC in a coalition of the fringes against White men.
the people who dictate “freebombs and democrazy” throughout the middle East….. whine about farcical “social unrest” mass incarceration agenda propaganda aka “race war” aka wishful thinking
“white” race doesn’t make sense unless you’re Australian, New Zealander, S Afrikaner or North American. Western and Northern Europeans can’t stand “White American “Christians”
Europe’s changed since 1889 Warschau getto……3rd generation immigrants 🙂
Yes. Whether or not women will say they support affirmative action on a poll is a question. Regardless, the fact that they are the primary beneficiaries of the myriad programs that advantage them solely because of their gender identity is indisputable.
Women are more pro-social than men and so it is logical to presume they are more prone to signal their support for various causes related to the vulnerable if their social leadership leads them in that direction.
If Kim Kardashian, god help us all, supports Black Lives Matter there is incredible pressure on mainstream women to conform. Then it spreads to other social leaders (political, education, arts, etc) and eventually all women fall in line. With Covid and protests, we’re watching the process play out very quickly.
Three of the most nebulous and manipulative words alive: good …just …and hurt.
Oh calm down. A hysterical white woman is not the equivalent of throwing white men under the bus.
“Normally my wife isn’t overjoyed when I say something ‘racist’ but its a much more accepting atmosphere now.”
Your wife isn’t more ‘accepting’ of your ‘racist’ comments. Ask her if her sudden silence on your racist comments is a reflection of her changing attitude toward Black people. Hopefully she won’t tell you “no, I’m just following the advice of my lawyer.”
Don’t let fussy women wind you up. It’s an old trick, surprisingly effective.
Yeah, I don’t think 8 year old children should work in mines. I also don’t think people should be working 80 hours a week.
What part of the 19th century would you like to return to?
Not one of these things is a real life problem.
You’ve been spending too much time on the Internet.
Get a life.
Name the Jewish Power, and everything comes into focus. Put on the glasses. Otherwise, vision remains blurry.
Why all this use of blackness to blame and shame whites? Who controls the media? It ain’t Eskimos. Sure, there have always been white do-gooders and white atoners, but they were in balance with white patriots and noble race-ists. Who tipped the balance toward white self-hatred? Jews did. (This is what Paul Gottfried doesn’t much talk about. He’s right about the long history of white do-goodism, but he fails to address the factor of Jewish Power in tipping the scales to white self-denial.)
Now, why are Jews today especially desperate to bash whitey? Reasons are pretty obvious.
1. Jews have bad press around the world despite their control of global media. Many peoples associate Jewish Power with Wall Street, Neocon Wars, and Zionist oppression of Palestinians. Jews must spend lots and lots of money to buy support, but support based on money isn’t a sure thing. Once the money dries up, the support vanishes. Jews invoke the Holocaust, but it only really works in the West, especially in Northern Europe. Rest of the world had NOTHING to do with it, and the notion that Palestinians deserved to lose their homeland because of what Germans did is surely absurd to the world community.
Jewishness once had great moral mileage after WWII, and it still does in the West but not so much in the Rest. Also, as Jews have gotten richer and richer while many blacks remained mired in poverty, black resentment of Jews has grown. Furthermore, blacks feel neglected of late due to all the attention showered on globo-homo-mania, another Jewish Agenda.
Jews have used globo-homo-mania effectively to gain sway over the world, but holy homo victim-hood isn’t really that potent. It’s more about feely-good than feely-sad. For one thing, the most prominent fruits are whites, and many around the world associate globo-homo with ‘white privilege’ hedonism and Western cultural imperialism. Because Jewishness is increasingly associated with super wealth, uber-privilege, & Zionist crimes and because there is a limit to moral capital to globo-homo, Jews push Noble Negro stuff. There is ‘guilt by association’ but also ‘sanctity by association’. As black Africa has been poor and colonized by the West and as there was indeed a compelling history of racial oppression in the US — and because Africa and much of Black America are still stuck in poverty — , one can easily create the impression that innocent and noble blacks have been WRONGED by whitey. Just like ‘the butler did it’, there is ‘whitey done it’.
Jews are effectively trying to kill two birds with one stone with the Noble Negro shtick. By closely associating themselves with blacks, Jews seek moral shield. Jews desperately need it due to all the crimes they’ve committed in the Middle East and all the hatred they are stirring up against Russia, China, Iran, Venezuela, Syria, and etc. So, if people say, “Jews oppress Palestinians”, Jews say, “We Jews are the best friends of Noble Negroes. How could a people who feel such compassion for Noble Negroes have a wicked heart, boo hoo hoo?” This shtick is so obvious in scum like Jerry Nadler. An ardent Zionist who doesn’t care about the countless dead due to Wars for Israel and Zionist terror but bleating with crocodile tears about black ‘victims’. It’s all a moral bait-and-switch.
But, Jews have pulled the same shi* with globo-homo. They first spread homo-mania in the West as the new mass cult, the new sensation, a quasi-new-age-spirituality. And then, they said Israel has the biggest ‘pride’ parades whereas those ‘less evolved’ Muslims and Arabs persecute homos. Also, as the US military became a vessel of globo-homo, its wars became palatable to many progs. Jews gained a lot of moral mileage for Israel in the West by associating it as the ‘gay place to be’. Now, there was a time when most whites associated homosexuality and tranny-stuff with deviancy, decadence, degeneracy, and even disease. But as whites have lost culture, community, tradition, and roots, their main culture is pop culture, and they get their ‘values’ from sitcoms. And of course, education has gone from cultivating critical thinking to enforcing conformism to PC. So-called ‘Critical Theory’ is anything but. It’s about teaching kids to be ‘critical’ of anything Jews don’t like while ignoring anything that undermines the Agenda.
Because ever-increasing Jewish Power & Wealth leads to more and more people associating Jews with oppression(especially of Palestinians) than with victim-hood, Jews are seeking ‘sanctity(or innocence) by association’. Jews are especially going all out on this with blacks because they know that many blacks don’t like nor trust Jews. Jews feel that unless they coddle blacks in these Days of Rage, blacks will lash out at Jews as well, and then Jews will lose a key political ally and symbolic alliance. Many blacks see Jews as super-rich whites. Blacks certainly feel NO guilt about the Holocaust and, on some level, may agree with certain Naziesque sentiments about Jews that are voiced by the Nation of Islam: Jews are parasites of goy peoples. Also, despite the Memory Hole about South Africa, surely many blacks do recall Israel was the #1 ally of the Apartheid State during the Cold War. And Jews and blacks are opposites in that Jewish Power is about mind whereas black power is about body. What they have in common is a certain vulgarity, egotism, and shamelessness, but given Jewish gain is about white collar crime whereas black gain is about street crime, Jews get more shekels while blacks get more shackles. Indeed, it was Jews who pushed Stop and Frisk in New York to bring down black crime. Since the end of the Cold War, Jews(and homos) led the way in gentrifying cities, and that meant getting tougher on black crime. Black resentment simmered over this even as blacks themselves benefited from less killings and muggings in their neighborhood. Blacks often react with touchy pride than recognition of facts and sense: Michael Bloomberg actually saved many black lives with tough policing. During Obama years, black rage was kept in check because many blacks just assumed they were in charge because the president be black. Just like Billy Boy Clinton, the ‘first black president’, could get away with tougher crime laws because blacks perceived him as ‘whitey who likes black folks’, Obama could get away with expending most of his energies on serving Jews, expanding gentrification, and prioritizing globo-homo because he’s a black guy. And even Bush II was a ‘compassionate conservative’ who said he cried the most tears when Kanye West said Bush don’t like black folks; he also poured tens of billions in aid to Africa, further fueling the population explosion. But after all these years, black problems still fester. (Now, we know why. It’s genetics, but such truth is too triggering in our time.) And so, blacks are up in arms again. Of course, Jews sort of inflamed this rage to use against Donald Trump, but they surely didn’t know things would get this crazy, just like Mao Zedong was taken aback by the extent of Red Guard fury and destruction. Play with fire, and it can burn out of control.
Anyway, because rich & privileged Jews are losing moral credit as a ‘victim group’ around the world(and even in some proggy communities that support BDS) and especially because Jews played a prominent role in gentrification, favoring globo-homo, and locking up lots of blacks, they are now trying to memory-hole those facts and make themselves out to be the #1 sympathizers of Noble Negroes. So, this is more of a Jewish thing than black thing. After all, Jews, not Negroes, control the media.
2. The second reason why Jews push Noble Negro cult is to ensure ‘white guilt’. Jews know that white identity-independence-pride will lead to (1) whites serving their own interests than Jewish ones and (2) whites potentially being fair to all groups than favoring Jews over others. If whites were truly free in mind, spirit, and body, their priority would of course be, “Is it good for whites?” as it’s natural for ANY PEOPLE to ask that question. Surely, Iranians think in terms of “Is it good for Iranians?” and Asian-Indians think in terms of “Is it good for Indians?” Also, when dealing with non-whites, whites would be free-thinkers and try to be fair-minded and hear all sides. Whites would listen to BOTH Jews and to Palestinians. But then, why would Jews want that? Jews want whites to feel guilty and ashamed of their identity and then steer that guilt toward serving Holy Jews and Noble Negroes(as tools of Jews). Jewish idea of the Ideal White Mindset: “Sorry for Holocaust and Slavery, must suck up to Holy Jews and Noble Negroes.” Jews claim to fear ‘white supremacism’, and in the past, this had some validity because a variant of white supremacism, Nazism, had a devastating impact on Jews, though, to be sure, it killed many more whites, especially in Slavic nations. (Of course, Jews also greatly benefited from white supremacism, especially of the Anglo and Hispanic kind. Jewish bankers invested in Western Imperialism, Jewish merchants plied their trade in expanding empires, Jews sold opium to Chinese under British protection, and Jews surely gained tremendously from Anglo-and-Hispanic destructions of native cultures in the New World. And Jewish diamond merchants in South Africa are there ONLY BECAUSE of white imperialism. So, Jews mostly had no problem with ‘white supremacism’ as long as it wasn’t anti-Jewish to boot.) If in the past, Jews were fearful of anti-Jewish form of white supremacism, today, it’s not about white supremacism at all. Jews now characterize any white identity or interest as ‘white supremacist’ to keep whites browbeaten so that they will serve Jewish SUPREMACISM that really rules the West. We have a surreal situation of Jews decrying white non-supremacism as ‘supremacism’ to perpetuate their own supremacism while posing as eternal holy holocaust victims.
Jews yammer about justice, fairness, and equality — ROTFL — , but Jews don’t want whites to be fair-minded. Fair-minded whites will, after all, question the Wars for Israel and address the problems faced by Palestinians. Take the term ‘Arabists’, a truly dirty term oft-used by Neocons to smear fair-minded whites. The so-called ‘Arabists’ did not FAVOR the Arabs. They were not owned by Arabs. And they certainly were not Arabs. So, why were they called ‘Arabists’? Because they wanted the US to (1) prioritize US interests over Jewish-Zionist interests and (2) they wanted the US to be fair-minded to BOTH sides in the Israeli-Arab conflicts. They were not for favoring Arabs over Jews but for objectivity and balance in US foreign policy. But simply because they weren’t 100% subservient to Israeli interests and Jewish demands, they were called ‘Arabists’, as if they had a special thing for Arabian Nights or kebabs. So, the mere notion that Arabs should be given a fair hearing is to be ‘Arabist’, just like the notion that whites have an identity and interests of their own is ‘white supremacist’. Jews are like the pimp who see whites as the whore. The whore has to remain totally loyal to the pimp while the pimp can do as he pleases and play around with other whores. What a ghastly state of affairs, and yet, whites ceded total power and moral authority to the likes of Jerry Nadler, Adam Schiff, and Sheldon Adelson. Is it any wonder that White Demise is happening all around? If whites are going to be this craven and stupidity, they deserve to fade away from history. By cucking to Jews, Negroes, and Homos, they not only endanger themselves but the whole world as white managerialism and white militarism serve as the backbone and bridge for the spread of Shlomo-Negro-Homo cancer around the world. For this reason, White Liberation(from Jewish Supremacism) can save both whites and the world, but if whites choose to keep cucking to Jewish Supremacism and help spread the cancer to all corners of the world, white destruction should come sooner than later.
The current madness teaches us something about the nature of power. It is one of those trite lessons that need repeating because people so easily forget. Power isn’t only about manpower and material but mettle and morale. In manpower and materials, white people have the means to vanquish just about any enemy and rival in the world. If white people in the US, UK, and Canada say ‘enough is enough’, put their minds to it, and choose to restore order by kicking Negro butt and pushing against migrant-invasion, it could be done. There are lots of white people and lots of white means. Whites have lots of guns. Whites got lots of money and lots of number in the West. There are many white police officers. Most politicians are white. Majority populations are still white in US, UK, Canada, Australia, Europe, etc.
But what is striking in current events is not so much that savage blacks and rabid Antifa are attacking statues, monuments, and symbols but the totally impotent lack of will, confidence, pride, and courage among whites to do anything about it. There are violent mobs and silent whites. Why the silence? It’s as if they’re too afraid, demoralized, guilty, and browbeaten to express their anger and take action. (They also know the Power has instructed the police and courts to go easy on blacks and Antifa while charging any white patriot with ‘white supremacism’ and ‘hate’. Welcome to Jewish Supremacist West.) Thus, the notion of the ‘silent majority’ during the Nixon years was intrinsically problematic. While Richard Nixon was speaking up for the Silent Majority, he didn’t raise the core question as to why they remain silent and only express their views anonymously and timidly through the ballot box. If you silently vote for preserving the monuments while never voicing the WHY, the younger generation will grow up hearing ONLY THE OTHER SIDE with the megaphone. Silent Majority thus loses to the Megaphone Minority. In any gathering, if there is one speaker and thousand people in the audience, the one speaker has more power than the thousand listeners. Why? BECAUSE he speaks while others only listen.
In the distant future, when historians study the fall of the West, they may well wonder the WHY? Why did whites lose when, based on all available statistics, they had so many advantages in manpower, materials, and means in the first half of the 21st century. Why didn’t they push back against negative trends when they had the material means and the numbers to do so?
It’s like asking,”Why did the French lose so quickly against Germany in 1940 when they had the manpower and materials to last longer?” Or, “Why did the KMT lose in the Chinese Civil War to Mao and communists when, after WWII, it held more territory, had more men, and had more materials.” It’s like asking, “Why did South Vietnam lose to North Vietnam when it had more people and received massive amounts of money and weapons from the US?” They had men and materials but they lacked morale. And there is no White Morale anymore. The new morality pushed by Jews has destroyed white identity and white pride. Via education, media, and entertainment, whites have been made to favor trivial globo-homo over true morality, celebrate blackness as cool or revere it as tragic(and all because of ‘white racism’), worship Jews as eternal holocaust-people, and hate their own identity as the source of all evil, or 90% of it. (After all, Jews need to blame Iranians and Muslims also in order to make whites fight Wars for Israel. So, let’s say 10% of evil belong to the ‘Muzzies’.) So, even though whites still have the manpower and materials to save their race, their nations, and their heritage many times over, they dare not do anything.
Consider the Boing Factor. White Power is akin to penile dysfunction syndrome. It may be big but cannot get hard. And a limp penis, no matter how big or fat, is useless. It is morale that hardens a people with will, courage, determination, and righteousness. It makes them go ‘boing’. It is what makes a people willing to kill, willing to die. North Vietnamese and Viet Cong had morale; South Vietnamese soldiers, as virtual mercenaries of US empire, did not. North Vietnamese respected their leaders and believed in the rightness and righteousness of their cause. South Vietnamese, even as most of them didn’t want communism, saw their leaders as feckless whore-puppets of the US. They feared communism but they weren’t willing to fight and die for the existing system. Likewise, white people may not want the future of Jewish supremacism, black thuggery, and fruit-tyranny, but they don’t believe in their identity, culture, and traditions sufficiently to fight for them, to kill and die for them. But then, this could be said for browns of Latin America as well. Browns in some of those nations have the manpower to take power from whites(of Conquistador background) but they lack unity, solidarity, and confidence. They lack meaningful identity and just carry on as the perpetually colonized.
How many civilizations in the past fell not due to the lack of manpower and materials but lack of mettle and morale? White Multiple Sclerosis has spread all through the West… and even across non-white vassal states of the US.
The brilliance of the Jewish Trick is that Jews associated white cuckery with white status. Ideally, white elites must lead the white masses with pride and will. But elites are inherently vain and narcissistic. They not only want material privilege but moral preening. And it just so happens that education and entertainment taught white elites that their high status depends on white cuckery, white self-debasement, and white guilt as expressions of virtue-signaling. If white debasement only came with pain and humiliation, there’s more likelihood that whites will rebel. But a select group of white collaborator elites are showered with praise and goodies for their cuckery. Take Tom Brokaw, that worthless pile of scum shi*. He cucked and cucked and cucked and has been heaped with praise and prizes by the Establishment. He’s got his millions.
Anyway, so-called white patriots who refuse to mention Jewish Supremacist Power as the cancer of all this are pretty useless. They are like doctors who notice every symptom but refuse to mention the ‘c’ word. What is the best chemo against supremacist shlomo, or best shlomo-chemo? If Jews use blacks and diversity against whites, whites must do so in kind. Begin with PALESTINIAN LIVES MATTER. No, it’s not ‘Arabist’ but fair justice for all sides.
Or SPL or Save Palestinian Lives.
You people need reverse doxxing uncancel culture
Fired from job for shit like this? Here based business owners literally publicly call to hire you lmao
It’s certainly indisputable that “women are the primary beneficiaries of the programs that advantage them.” But of course, that statement is circular and trivial. The question is whether such programs are “myriad.”
I contend they are quite scarce, indeed and that the overwhelming majority of White women benefit not one bit from affirmative action.
Any benefit to women from AA is limited to heavily Male-dominated fields, which, by definition, don’t interest most women. Women are concentrated in fields where they have no diversity advantage.
We’re seeing nothing of the sort. Media hype is not reality.
As your linked article notes, “affirmative action” is ill-defined.
IMO, real affirmative action comes after hiring a qualified, competent applicant, not before. The employer should understand what the barriers to advancement within the company are, and offer assistance to everyone, irrespective of race, colour, religion, etc. interested in advancement. It used to be called succession planning.
Most of that has been tossed over the last 60 years, for many reasons, including the feminist mantra that being a wife and mother was akin to slavery, the well-meaning but wrong headed diversity mantra, and turning education into a commodity, thus enabling employers to require employees to upgrade constantly at their own expense. There are other examples as well, but all of them are a glut of labour aimed at lower costs and higher profits.
If there is affirmative action that is needed pre-employment, those have to start in secondary education, not employment or corrupted admissions processes. The reality is, some people are not university material, and some people are not technical/trade school material. Why pretend they are by establishing quotas or altering admissions to accommodate them? All meaningful work is dignified. As my parents used to say – someone has to sweep the floor.
There is one reason to hate Karen that applies to all four quadrants of your chart:
She is a shrieking woman.
What a strange response, I noticed by the way that you truncated my original statement..
Which alluded to many of them, and replaced it with…
To make it more suitable for your totally non-nuanced all inclusive rejoiner.
Basically my argument alluded to some white women, you responded as if I had said all white women. You then implied that I was conceding some point which I had never made in the first place. Have you ever considered going into politics or the media? That was not intended as a compliment btw.
It certainly helped Kara Hultgreen a LOT because without it she wouldn’t have had a snowball’s chance in hell of,
1) becoming a carrier pilot,
3) nearly killing her crewman,
4)destroying his career(he never flew again)
5) causing multiple tens of millions of dollars damage.
Lots of leftists are against Israel bombing Palestinians but they are also against “anti-semitism”. So there’s that.
As for Jews supporting blacks, I don’t know if that works… It’s not as if Blacks like Jews all that much. For most blacks, they’re just another flavour of White Debbils.
I think Jews by default just go for anything that is against Whitey and against tradition, but it doesn’t always work so well for them.
Is that actually true, or are you just cherry-picking anecdotes?
I’m willing to assume FSA that you are correct about this. In no way, shape, or form does that refute my essential point that White women, in the aggregate, do not particularly benefit from affirmative action, do not support affirmative action, and are not (as OP stated) “the biggest supporters of affirmative action.”
A random white woman is more likely to have a husband who would be harmed by AA than to be from it herself.
Ah, I see. In that case, I look forward to your comment noting your objection to the gross generalization about White women in comment #4, which precipitated this discussion.
‘… The fact that you seem to agree that the confederate flag means “slavery” tells me you don’t really know what you are talking about.’
It wasn’t a question of what it meant to me. If that had been the only consideration, that flag would have stayed up.
It was a question of what it meant to them. As I say, they were good people, and I couldn’t see sufficient good reason to force them to live with it.
‘Three of the most nebulous and manipulative words alive: good …just …and hurt.’
Oh sure. But in this case, for me, the situation became obvious. I would have been being a bastard if I’d left that flag up. Sure, I could have forced them to just keep sucking it up — but I didn’t want to.
The truth can be hard to define, but when you see it, you know it.
‘…I’ve never had a racist encounter one way or the other in my life and I’ve spent my life moving around and working with people of every different race, nationality and religion…’
I’ve had quite a few racist encounters with blacks in the course of my life; I have literally almost been lynched. I think you have to be ready to punch them right in the snout. Sometimes, there’s no other way.
Moreover, if you want to know my attitude about blacks in general…well, I think a return to Jim Crow would be a sensible, moderate, humane, and workable solution.
I’m an awful racist — and I’m getting worse. No apologies or rationalizations when it comes to that.
But when you’re dealing with individuals, they’re individuals. If you can, if they’ve treated you right, you should treat them right.
I dunno if that’ll come up a whole lot anymore, where we’re headed — but I do know what was right, once upon a time.
The god was named Dionysus. Humans named after him had the name Dionysius.
You know nothing of me.
Yep. The kind of guy who admonishes a woman for letting her dog off the leash – and carries dog treats so the woman cannot walk away, or even leash her dog, without approaching the man and engaging with his BS.
And he knows he will never be called out (except here, which his employer and friends don’t read), even if he makes a subtle threat to sexually assault the woman, and even if he includes this in the recording.
Well Derb, there have been some damn good Karens lately.
The saga of LT Hultgren is well known and well documented.
The guy is a straight-up gaylord (“not that there’s [etc]”). He had on lip gloss, for fuck’s sake. At the end he is over-wrought to hell.
Are we meant to believe that this is representative of a situation in which a white woman can reasonably be expected to fully wig out and start behaving like a retarded child?
The woman is the worst possible example of “straight to fake-histrionics” that I’ve ever seen. Fake-histrionics because she was being ultra-careful to hide her face, and then her licence plate) – in the face of an effeminate dude who was giving her a weak-ass upbraiding (akin to being smacked with a cold piece of cooked lettuce).
She cut him off (perhaps inadvertently), brake-checked him, and flipped him the bird – nothing’s surer. She’s a cunty driver: those people deserve to get the shit beat out of them.
She behaved like a cunt, and he called her out on it – and she started acting like a spoilt 4 year old girl retard.
That’s not being a ‘Karen’: it’s being mentally-ill.
The thing about a ‘Karen’ is that it’s an aggressive and unapologetic pushy she-beast; hate ’em or hate ’em, one thing about a Karen is that they don’t dissolve into a gibbering wreck at the slightest confrontation.
So this video’s a bad example because it has fuck-all to do with Karens – the black gay dude misidentified her as a Karen when she’s far too weak a personality for the name to fit.
It also has fuck-all to do with race until the fake-fragile hysterical cunt brings up her husband: the dude who confronts her happens to be black(ish), but his entire demeanour is non-threatening.
She was trying to turn it into something other than being shamed for being a cunty driver.
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED, bitch.
The injustice here is that she was the one who did the cunty thing, and she was the one getting comforted – all because she (pretended that she) lost her fucking mind.
That’s one of the oldest female tricks in the book: it’s practically a meme – guy confronts his girlfriend with evidence that she’s fucking his friend; women fake-loses her shit and winds up a fake-gibbering mess.
Damn… that first one is messed up. She is so fucked up… although at 3:30 she makes a persuasive – compelling – theological argument.
Is it Karen behaviour though?
Don’t get me wrong – it’s pretty close.
The outrage-crescendo and blame-fixing are nice; the theological interlude is suitably retarded; and a nice strong finish (more racial epithets, and did I see a slap?)… and she’s certainly not backing down.
Still… it loses points because Karenism is less “ranting while blackout-drunk” and more “finger wagging prissy scold who demands to speak to your manager“.
And besides, the woman looks part-beaner and she might be moderately fuckable when sober.
Worse, she lacks the flabby arms and prominent muffin-top/backfat pattern that is a dominant characteristic of the Karen Americanus: that’s an instant disqualification for consideration as a Karen.
These characters always bring up Kara Hultgreen as if it proves something. She died more than a quarter of a century ago, which kind of makes her a sort of Emmett Till icon for these jackasses. The only thing her death proves is that naval aviation is a dangerous profession, and learning how to do it is very risky business.
I doubt that any of these jaybirds who bring Hultgreen up could ever qualify to be naval aviator. I say this as fourth generation brown-shoe Navy. My great-grandfather was on Adm. Joseph Reeves staff aboard the Langley and helped developed the color-coded jerseys for flight deck facilitators, as well as the deck-park system and the use of dive bombers. My grandfather was a naval aviator who won the Navy Cross in World War II. My father flew combat missions against North Vietnam during Linebacker II. I’ve served aboard the Ronald Reagan with CVW-5 .
Nobody I know has anything bad to say about Hultgreen. I know. I’ve asked. The worst comment has been that you can always tell a pioneer by the arrows in their back.
A number of males have died during carrier qualifications since Hultgreen’s death, as well as during normal flight operations. As I said, carrier aviation is exceedingly dangerous. The flight deck has been called, with good reason, the most dangerous four acres in the world.
Here is a video of a fatal crash during carrier qualification in which five people died, including one female. She was not, however, the pilot. The pilot was male.
Sorry to make such an extensive comment, but I despise these maggots who constantly bring up Hultreen’s death. They are utterly contemptible.
Just as I thought.
The comments here are not sympathetic to Derbyshire. It seems you can take the 20th century cuckservative out of National Review, but you can’t take National Review out of the 20th century cuckservative. Whiteknight for all women at all times regardless of circumstance or deservedness seems to be the only principle cuckservatives adhere to.
THIS is what Derbyshire is defending. Note that most of the victims of the Karenavirus are white minors, or pretty Asian/Eastern European/Hispanic young women.
“I’m white, and I’m hot!” (LOL)
Bragging about having purchased ‘$10,000’ tits :
Here are some Karens who have enough difficulty learning English, that they go apeshit if two people minding their own business converse in something other than English :
The Boss Monster of all Karens :
The Karen has been raised to believe in her feminist superiority. It’s not just a race thing, it’s a over the hill white woman supremacist thing. Males must bow; remember MeToo. But since that boat has sailed, she is lost and adrift with nothing but a colonialist mindset to comfort her.
Who’s Kim Kardashian? What did she do?
Totally agree you’d think that guy got out his vehicle with a Chainsaw. But he also showed wrong, actually terrible judgement, if some woman has a meltdown over a trivial issue just walk away from it, I would have walked away after a minute there’s no telling that a crowd will not get involved and then the situation could rapidly deteriorate.
Absolutely, fake histrionics, fake meltdown, female privilege is acting like a cunt and expecting not to be treated like one.
That would be an obnoxious commercial even if we didn’t live in the Time of Karens. Geico commercials used to be funny.
And I thank God for it.
Oh, so you believe in God?
Badwhite, Chinese poontanging Derbyshire is scribbling about white women – when there are no white women in his life. He has only Chinese females, anti-white at that, in his life. His Chinese females like negroids, they voted for Obummer. They don’t care that negroids are the race with the lowest IQ (Mongoloids are second in IQ, Caucasoids have the highest IQs.) His Chinese females will be against the Karens.
He scribbles about New York “white women.” Many of these are probably (((squirrels))). I have to agree with Mitumba E. Michael Jones that white is a pretty empty category. Many of the “white women” supporting BML are (((squirrels))). Derbyshire can’t make distinctions because he is a cucked Western male who lost the few brain cells he had when he face-planted in Chinese poontang. He should be ashamed of his racial degeneracy.
The “Karen” problem was created by cucked Western males who believe in universal brotherhood and universal church. Mongoloid and Negroid males are inferior to Caucasoid males, but universalism makes the cucked Western male babble about equality of all. Derbyshire just scribbles but can offer no solutions because of his degeneracy. First, defining what the West is and is not is critical to solving our problems. Derbyshire and his Chinese family will not be part of the solution.
The black mommy Karen Attiah tweeted about Karens and black mommies not taking revenge on them. This is good. It will force Western women (who are not homo/black/Asian/Jewish/Muslim) to take a side. “Karen” Coulter is always scribbling and babbling about how whites owe blacks for slavery. Karen Coulter had better realize that the black mommies don’t want her help. The black mommies will make it clear to her to get lost. How will Karen Coulter react?
In the meantime, Derbyshire, focus on moving yourself and your Chinese family to China. The Karens do not concern you.
You aren’t an aviator.
My two comments are not diametrically opposed.
There are some women that were not helped by affirmative action and are bitter.
Affirmative action is just one of the many stupid positions of progressivism and a large number of women support them.
Your reply demonstrates that women are also lacking in logic.
That is just red herring bullshit. No one is advocating your proposition. Progressives are full of shit…such as support of eliminating police…destroying property…supporting brain dead Biden…and hundreds of other dumbass ideas.
I notice you didn’t reply to the vast majority of my brilliant comments.
Hey Rosie, what about Duke Wallace, Sexi, or Neanderthal?
WRT LT Hultgreen;
Yes, it’s a conservative source, but the information is detailed.
Here’s my response: ok, fine. But we were calling these women “Becky”s just a few weeks ago; been attacking them in the media for months and months, in fact. Why the switch to “Karen”?
Because Becky is short for Rebecca, of which there are puh-lenty among the Chosen (who, incidentally, are THE biggest supporters of progressivism and black victim mentality.) Lots of dark-eyed, curly-haired brunettes named Becky, though they prefer the full Old Testament variation: Rebecca
Karen, on the other hand, is a Nordic name. Lots of – I’d suspect mostly – blond-haired Karens in this world. By switching – however suddenly and without explanation – your Tribal types on Twitter can stoke up the orc hatred of white women this way without needing to worry about possible blowback mussing the missus’ curly black hair (or wig, if she’s Orthodox)
Think about it: “Becky” was doing the job perfectly well – it was the NY Times’ nomenclature of choice denoting the hated White Woman, for Pete’s sake. Why change horses in the homestretch when you were already in the lead by several lengths? It sure doesn’t make much difference to Black America – hell there are more black Karens out there than black Beckys! Granted, the media will never shine a light behind their own dark curtain, but….. you can’t help but wonder why?
I see this comment has changed. Originally there were a good few hours of viewing time of these hysterical Karens linked, and I though why would Thomm waste so much time with such rubbish and want us to do likewise. So it was the moderator that deleted them?
Women have to realize that they don’t have to be polite. It is a difficult brainwashing to overcome.
It wasn’t so long ago that it was unacceptable for a woman to be alone with a man who was her husband or father. There was a reason for that.
What I describe as the “elevator moment” is that time a woman realizes the cost outweighs the risk across all situations when she has that choice to make.
The word entrapment comes to mind….Retreat.
This of course applies to women who have either the experience or have had Derb’s “talk” and have been red-pilled somewhere along the way.
You know, if I was a Karen, I would recommend some of these folks not go swimming in the lakes and rivers (not good swimming for the inexperienced and not open or public) around here since many of the urban pools are closed. Seems they’re a little slow on the uptake, but their kids seem to drown at a disproportionate rate.
Oh the horror if I suggested such a “Karen” thing.
Laughably, I associate the Karen name with Karen from SpongeBob SquarePants! She is Plankton’s computer wife with the annoying voice!
This is asinine.
Becky came from a Beyonce song, “Becky with the good hair.” It conveys youth.
Karen conveys middleage. It was created by an embittered divorced white man on Reddit to get back at his ex-wife.
Very few Jews actually name their daughters Rebecca, outside of the Orthodox, who do, and it’s Rivka, not Rebecca.
You are an asshole.
“Acceptance to college should be on merit alone…some sort of intelligence test…nothing else. Not race, sex or anything else. If that were the case the number of women and POC accepted to college would be significantly reduced.”
Actually, the total number of students, including white males, would be reduced. And a college degree would actually mean something again.
“You people need reverse doxxing uncancel culture”
Yes, indeed we do. Surly there are wealthy conservative business owners who could at least contact the doxed privately and offer support, including a job. I’ve never heard of it happening, however. Sad.
“I’ve never had a racist encounter one way or the other in my life ”
This is actually hard to believe, sounds like a failure of noticing.
Is payment up front in the moving game? I had a friend who’s a florist. Had to stop supplying flowers to blacks (graduations and such) because they would always stiff him.
That graph is funny.
Are you sure he didn’t say “sniff?”
Right genre, wrong century.
Yes. That’s why they vote Democrat.
There are very many non-Jewish Rebeccas; it was a popular name for Greatest Generation parents to give their Boomer kids. Even more popular: Deborah, also from the OT.
I’ll say that I have a black wife.
But seriously folks, Derb is right and white women just have to develop some street smarts. Don’t cooperate. Dead face. Get on with your business. They won’t put something online if there’s nothing to put.
Jeane Kirkpatrick (Google her; she’s from the Stone Age) once wrongfooted a liberal TV interviewer by simply shrugging, and sitting in her chair, smiling and silent. She knew that TV interviewers hate nothing more than dead air. The libshit kept trying to get her to say more than two words, and she wouldn’t cooperate. It was her way of saying, “Ask me an intelligent question, asshole, and I might answer, but I’m not going to go along with your childish bullshit.”
Old Testament names are or were common among Protestants. Even names like Ann (Hannah) and Elizabeth (Elisheva) and Abigail (Avigail) are derived from the OT.
Karen is wearing a mask.
Her system is trapped in fight-or-flight mode; she cannot breathe in a way that would allow access to the “calming influence” of the parasympathetic system
Your incredible nose
One white woman does not represent *all* white women. Many of the protesters I’ve seen in recent weeks are white women, including the most radical ones, often heavily tattooed with facial piercings. White women in office, like Seattle mayor Jenny Durkin, OR governor Kate Brown, and all the DNC white women at both state and national levels, like Nancy Pelosi, Diane Feinstein, Gillibrand etc. are all crazy progressive. The GOP suffers from a lack of women, and the few they have, Susan Collins(ME) and Lisa Murkowski(AS) are libtards in the GOP.
Yes, that explains the sudden switch to “Karen” from “Becky” after the NYT and the WaPo, HuffPo, Salon, Daily Beast, ad nauseum, had already established “Becky” as the universally-recognized symbol for white women it’s okay to loathe.
It just happened, see? – and anyone poking around dark corners with a flashlight wondering ‘why’ is an “asshole”.
Thanks for the correction, Rebec- uhh….”Jane”.
How about “Becky Baiting”?
Thomm – So sad that your inability, as a subcontinental, to attract White women means you think you are part of some brotherhood with White males who dislike shrieking Karens precisely because they’re the type who’d advocate sleeping with a subcon like you.
Naturally, or the “Becky” meme wouldn’t have taken off the way it did.
The question is why was it brought down, once it was airborne and safely at cruising altitude, for “Karen”?